[0:00] column meeting to order
[0:02] and we're going to start out by talking
[0:05] about the open space index
[0:11] yes
[0:13] that is your cue I'm just used to those
[0:17] being the queue so it's our Consultants
[0:19] are talking
[0:21] um so good good to see everyone this
[0:23] evening I know you guys have a busy
[0:24] agenda doing other things uh so we'll
[0:27] jump right into it and I'm going to hand
[0:28] it off to Katie she's got just an update
[0:31] on kind of where we are with the survey
[0:32] uh some people express interest in that
[0:34] uh on our coordination call a week or
[0:37] two ago so we're going to share with you
[0:38] where we're at today
[0:40] yeah so I put a few slides together
[0:42] they're really more so just placeholders
[0:46] for conversation
[0:48] um but give me one second I'll share my
[0:50] screen
[0:58] full screen okay
[1:01] so just a quick refresher on the
[1:04] schedule before we get into the survey
[1:05] we're in November this is actually the
[1:08] fourth time we're meeting
[1:09] um will be conducting stakeholder
[1:12] interviews intermittent
[1:14] imminently excuse me
[1:16] um and we'll talk a little bit more
[1:17] about that uh at the end of our
[1:19] presentation
[1:20] um we're also preparing for a public
[1:22] meeting coming up in a few weeks so
[1:24] that's going to be uh really useful for
[1:26] us and help uh push the survey a little
[1:29] bit more and then we're kind of wrapping
[1:32] up the inventory analysis side of things
[1:33] and we'll be moving towards uh the
[1:36] conservation land tool and assessment as
[1:39] um following the survey wrapping up as
[1:42] well as once the public meeting is
[1:44] um said and done
[1:46] so that's where we're at
[1:48] as far as our preliminary results from
[1:50] the survey we've got
[1:52] 127 results so far so not terrible
[1:56] but we've also got 117 points on the
[1:59] interactive map which is pretty good
[2:00] yeah
[2:02] um and we've also had a decent amount of
[2:04] people engaging with the like feature on
[2:07] other people's locations so I think
[2:09] that'll be some really great like
[2:11] citizen science science for us to help
[2:14] kind of direct that conservation land
[2:17] assessment tool when the time comes so
[2:20] that's kind of where we're at as far as
[2:23] um results thus far and Carrie I think
[2:26] you wanted to talk a little bit about
[2:27] promoting the survey I know you've got
[2:29] the mailer going out
[2:31] um so I don't know if you want to jump
[2:32] in on that a little bit
[2:34] sure we have a postcards that are ready
[2:40] to be nailed I think they got their
[2:42] check today for the postage down at the
[2:43] mailbox and so those should be going out
[2:46] uh to many thousands of households and
[2:50] then we still have
[2:52] um quite a few postcards left for
[2:54] distribution and we'll talk about that
[2:56] later on in the meeting
[2:58] um
[3:00] not sure
[3:03] um exactly what else you wanted me to
[3:05] cover at this point Katie nothing I just didn't I know I saw that
[3:09] promoting the survey was on the agenda
[3:12] so I didn't know if you wanted to talk
[3:13] about that now or later on yeah
[3:16] um I think it's we're gonna need to do a
[3:18] little
[3:19] um like fine-tuning in the weeds uh for
[3:23] some of that so maybe just keep forging
[3:25] ahead and I don't know
[3:29] okay that sounds good so yeah so I think
[3:31] you know
[3:32] between the postcard mailing and
[3:35] promoting the survey at our public
[3:36] meeting
[3:38] um I'm expecting a pretty significant
[3:39] uptick in survey responses
[3:44] so that brings us to our first public
[3:46] meeting
[3:47] um
[3:48] we had a discussion about this a few
[3:51] days ago maybe a week or so ago at this
[3:53] point and we decided um
[3:56] in person would probably be the best
[3:59] um strategy but we also want to
[4:01] accommodate anyone who's not comfortable
[4:04] or able to make it in person on the 15th
[4:07] so it will be at Town Hall on the 15th
[4:12] at 7 pm and our preliminary plan is just
[4:15] to go through a brief presentation of
[4:17] you know why this plan is important what
[4:20] to expect moving forward what to expect
[4:22] the results of this to be
[4:25] um touch a little bit on what we've
[4:26] heard so far from survey respondents
[4:29] um and some of the mapping that's been
[4:31] completed so far
[4:33] um so that will be a relatively brief
[4:36] presentation we'll try to keep it pretty
[4:37] short to keep people's attention and
[4:39] then we'd like the bulk of it to be
[4:41] small breakout groups
[4:44] um
[4:45] discussing this vision for open space
[4:48] will have aerial maps for each breakout
[4:50] group so we can kind of point to the map
[4:52] and Mark those up
[4:54] as needed and then um we'll kind of
[4:57] regroup at the end and share our results
[5:00] from our small groups and then send
[5:01] people on their way
[5:04] um so we're envisioning that
[5:06] presentation that is easily translatable
[5:09] to a virtual option
[5:12] um but in order for John and I and
[5:14] everyone facilitating to be really
[5:16] focused in on the conversations in
[5:18] person
[5:19] um we're gonna only have those available
[5:21] for people in the building that night
[5:24] but that being said we wanted to offer
[5:26] another option
[5:28] um
[5:28] for those who might not be comfortable
[5:30] showing up in person so that's where the
[5:33] Virtual Office hours come in the night
[5:34] afterwards CJ is creation graciously
[5:37] offered to host those right before the
[5:39] town board meeting
[5:40] um so people will be able to come and
[5:42] have a similar dialogue
[5:44] um on that evening so those are kind of
[5:46] our multi-faceted approach to our first
[5:50] public meeting and
[5:52] um John I don't know if you want to add
[5:53] anything to that or if anyone has any
[5:55] thoughts no I think you nailed it I
[5:57] think the only the odd the challenge is
[5:59] always and and we've done this enough
[6:02] where we've got a couple plan B's you
[6:04] know if we get it'd be a nice problem to
[6:06] have if we get a hundred people at the
[6:08] meeting then facilitating two groups of
[6:10] 50 I think is you know it's not going to
[6:12] be productive so in in that scenario we
[6:15] would either
[6:17] option A would be to have
[6:19] I would flow and then they'd have some
[6:21] of the steering some of your CAC members
[6:23] facilitate or we can um break into like
[6:26] almost like an open house uh kind of
[6:28] situation so we have a lot of bodies in
[6:31] the room then we'll just have to kind of
[6:32] be flexible on that be a nice problem to
[6:35] have
[6:36] um you know I think we could comfortably
[6:38] you know get up to say 40 50 people
[6:41] um that's a pretty comfortable meeting
[6:43] for Katie United facilitate if we get
[6:45] beyond that
[6:46] um you know then we'll just have to kind
[6:47] of adjust which like I said we've done
[6:49] it before it'll be fine it's just a nice
[6:51] problem to have if that happens
[6:56] so maybe now would be a good time for
[6:59] CAC members to indicate whether they can
[7:02] attend and assist
[7:05] I I can
[7:08] I'm planning on coming
[7:10] I am out of town that whole week
[7:18] I've got called in as Grandpa Duty
[7:23] here and I I interrupted you go ahead
[7:25] sorry I'm I'm just saying I'm planning
[7:27] to be there on the 15th
[7:29] yeah I've got my yeah I should be able
[7:32] to be there on the 15 000.
[7:36] I have an issue where my daughter in New
[7:39] York City has a nanny disappearing on
[7:41] them that week and I have to go help
[7:45] babysit so that's what I'll be doing in
[7:48] New York City
[7:49] it's important work too kids two kids
[7:51] duty calls four and a one-year-old
[7:54] wish me luck yeah the meeting is going
[7:57] to be way easier
[8:01] so it it's Tom Carey Karen Ed is that
[8:05] what I'm seeing okay
[8:12] sorry I was just saying I could be there
[8:14] but I don't know if you need me to be
[8:16] I don't know what how many people you're
[8:18] expecting to have at this public meeting
[8:22] we don't know either we know yeah I
[8:24] don't think we know but I think it would
[8:26] be helpful
[8:31] okay so John and Katie is that enough
[8:34] for you to work with plenty yeah yes
[8:37] thank you
[8:37] [Music]
[8:41] so
[8:43] um are you going to show the results so
[8:47] far with the
[8:49] um the survey data we have
[8:52] yes we were planning on doing like a
[8:54] yeah preliminary this is what we've
[8:56] heard thus far
[8:58] this is how many people we've heard from
[9:00] that kind of keep it pretty high level
[9:01] but yeah yeah we didn't plan on going
[9:04] through every question you know question
[9:05] one question two just being for time's
[9:08] sake but yeah I think hitting the high
[9:09] points and some of if there's any Trends
[9:12] or preliminary I don't like to draw
[9:14] preliminary conclusions at this time at
[9:15] this point but we can say where things
[9:17] seem to be heading at the current time
[9:20] um so yeah
[9:22] well with that number of uh survey
[9:24] results already I think that that's
[9:27] going to give us a pretty solid idea of
[9:30] where things are going I think so too
[9:35] looking over those uh you know what you
[9:39] have seen of the results are you by and
[9:43] large seeing a
[9:46] pro-conservation
[9:48] bias are you getting people who are
[9:50] pushing get back against this and and
[9:53] are
[9:54] not any anybody not in favor of it I
[9:58] mean we haven't gone through the data in
[10:00] any sort of significant way but yeah I'd
[10:03] say it's definitely leaning heavily
[10:05] towards pro-conservation at this point
[10:10] well that's good to hear
[10:14] oh just it might be interesting to know
[10:16] what the pushback is you know
[10:19] um prior to the meeting so we have you
[10:21] know we're not caught off guard and we
[10:23] have a little bit of
[10:24] um
[10:27] you know maybe a couple of of
[10:31] thoughts or tools or examples to bring
[10:34] up to to people
[10:36] um as as community members I mean I know
[10:38] you guys are going to see it but if you
[10:39] don't mind sharing that with us that
[10:41] would be really great yeah yeah
[10:44] absolutely and along those lines uh it
[10:47] would be helpful for those CAC members
[10:49] who can assist that night in a sense of
[10:53] the responsibilities ahead of time what
[10:56] you envision us doing I realized you
[10:58] don't know exactly how many people are
[10:59] coming but I think you you've probably
[11:02] uh done this Rodeo before so you have a
[11:04] sense of okay how do you want to use us
[11:08] um and you know what should we be
[11:10] prepared to do
[11:12] yeah we can send that along and then
[11:14] since our since we've gathered one on
[11:16] the call the meeting starts at seven
[11:18] right
[11:20] um I've got so many public meetings in
[11:22] my head if trying to think one town hall
[11:25] is gonna open and then it might make
[11:26] sense for the
[11:28] six or kd9 and the four or the five to
[11:32] huddle up beforehand and just kind of I
[11:34] mean we'll send something out in advance
[11:36] just kind of you know clip notes but it
[11:39] might make sense so how to walk just to
[11:40] make sure everyone's comfortable
[11:42] so what time town hall is going to close
[11:45] and open is going to be unlocked from
[11:47] the day these events I'm just curious I
[11:50] hear it just never closes there at the
[11:52] Town Hall it's just continually open CJ
[11:56] what do you think easy for us to meet
[11:58] ahead of time
[12:00] uh it depends on what when you were
[12:03] looking to get there uh so if you all
[12:07] wanted to meet say at I don't know 5 30
[12:09] or something like that we can just let
[12:11] you in the building the building closes
[12:13] at 4 pm every day uh Monday through
[12:16] Thursday
[12:16] I think six would probably be plenty I
[12:19] mean it's we're pretty good we can be
[12:21] set up in 10-15 minutes and then just
[12:24] going you know walking through with
[12:25] everyone kind of the plan B that'll take
[12:28] you know 15 20 minutes tops so I think
[12:30] you know six o'clock sharp is
[12:32] plenty of time
[12:35] so you're gonna have a PowerPoint
[12:38] presentation just
[12:40] that was our plan unless you guys were
[12:42] yeah mainly opposed to it no no that's
[12:45] fine
[12:46] um are we going to be able to see that a
[12:48] day or two ahead of time
[12:51] sure yeah
[12:53] great
[12:59] um how about refreshments
[13:02] I'm all for them I love refreshments
[13:08] and
[13:09] I want to take that
[13:11] on Tyson
[13:15] CJ does Town Hall have like a coffee
[13:17] maker I'm I don't mean like a single pot
[13:18] coffee maker I mean any kind of group
[13:20] facility not banquet facilities per se
[13:23] but like a large coffee maker or
[13:25] anything in town hall sometimes those
[13:26] sort of thing around there's a like a
[13:29] coffee service thing with tea and stuff
[13:32] like that in the
[13:34] guess I could characterize it perhaps as
[13:36] a break room
[13:42] so I don't know I'm not sure if that's
[13:44] what you guys are looking for but it
[13:45] makes hot water and if properly prepared
[13:48] of course coffee as well
[13:52] how about
[13:54] um something like some cider and
[13:57] little snacks
[14:00] I I know someone who's very good at
[14:03] getting donations and so I'm gonna a
[14:05] nice individual uh to see if we could
[14:08] possibly
[14:10] get some some refreshments at this event
[14:16] unless somebody else wants to do it I I
[14:19] will uh let's see what I can manage
[14:25] I could pick up some cider or whatever
[14:28] at the at the market for the before the
[14:31] Gathering
[14:33] okay so I'll I'll chat with you Tom okay
[14:36] we don't overlap
[14:38] that sounds good
[14:43] um I had a question about
[14:46] um numbers of postcards needed at this
[14:48] event just in case a few people come but
[14:51] they don't want to fill out the survey
[14:52] right then and there are we going to
[14:53] have paper copies of the survey or
[14:55] should we hand them the postcard that
[14:57] has the URL on it because we just so
[15:00] happen to have plenty
[15:04] I was looking for a full start
[15:07] I mean we could have a half a dozen a
[15:10] dozen hard copies there for people
[15:12] wanted it I don't think based on
[15:14] the pop-up event we had a lot of good
[15:16] conversations but um and then we had a
[15:19] couple people walk off with in a good
[15:20] way not want to steal it like walk off
[15:22] with a written survey but there wasn't
[15:24] that much of a demand for it most of the
[15:26] people said oh I'll look online now that
[15:28] I know
[15:29] um so I would lean towards having you
[15:31] know maybe a dozen hard copies and then
[15:33] just
[15:34] using the postcard at most
[15:37] so have maybe 50 on hand
[15:41] for postcards yeah at the most
[15:45] I think that's good because even if we
[15:48] let's say worst case scenario we ran out
[15:51] of postcards which would be a nice
[15:52] problem to have
[15:53] you could ask you can keep the last one
[15:55] and say hey just take a picture of this
[15:57] with your phone and now you've got the
[15:59] code for later
[16:01] okay and we can show the code on the
[16:03] screen Katie too and that way people
[16:05] need to
[16:06] take a shot of it with their phone they
[16:08] can yeah
[16:15] so we can bring a dozen surveys but yeah
[16:17] I think if you've got
[16:18] you know 50 postcards bring them on
[16:21] okay
[16:26] so it seems like one of the main things
[16:29] we want to get out of this meeting is uh
[16:32] locations that people think are are
[16:36] worth
[16:37] [Music]
[16:38] um
[16:39] protecting at some level
[16:42] correct and we want to inform them about
[16:44] what the process is you know
[16:47] um and it might you don't don't feel
[16:49] compelled but you know given this
[16:51] group's efforts to date it might make
[16:54] sense and it might be a nice touch if
[16:56] some if one or two with my group kind of
[16:58] talked about
[16:59] how we got to the point we're currently
[17:01] at I mean we've got a slide we can cover
[17:03] some of the history
[17:04] um but I think it always speaks better
[17:07] at the local people saying look this is
[17:08] what we've done and this is why I think
[17:09] it's important we can talk about why
[17:11] open space is important at a general
[17:13] level but in terms of Lansing you know
[17:16] how did this project come to be that'd
[17:18] be it'd be a nice anecdotal touch from
[17:20] one of your committee members but it's
[17:22] not required but I just think for those
[17:24] in attendance you know how do you get to
[17:26] this point Katie and I can cover it at a
[17:29] little higher level but you guys can be
[17:30] more personal
[17:34] so you have to commit right now but just
[17:36] think about that
[17:39] we we better get a commitment now
[17:41] because
[17:42] it just seems like we're all together
[17:45] and
[17:47] getting the commitment over emails a lot
[17:49] harder
[17:59] I recommend Tom
[18:01] foreign
[18:03] ER
[18:06] [Music]
[18:08] well I I since I am
[18:12] technically getting off of this
[18:14] committee I don't know if I'm the right
[18:16] person to do it but if nobody else wants
[18:19] to do it I can do it
[18:21] I mean I I
[18:24] hear it with you Tom if nobody else
[18:25] wants to but I just want to make sure
[18:26] everybody's given plenty of time to
[18:29] accept the opportunity
[18:32] we could work up something together if
[18:34] you if you want
[18:38] and it doesn't need to be much I mean
[18:40] Katie and I can talk about
[18:42] you know previous planning efforts and
[18:43] we'll have a slider too on some
[18:46] recommendations key ideas or key you
[18:49] know elements that have resonated with
[18:50] us so you guys don't need to be experts
[18:53] in everything that we're talking about
[18:54] and all the previous stuff even though
[18:55] you might be experts for everything but
[18:58] um you know just more again more of a
[19:02] how we got here you're not looking we're
[19:03] not looking I don't think it's necessary
[19:05] to speak to a ton of content but just
[19:06] more the the political motivation for
[19:09] this effort I think is kind of more
[19:11] important than
[19:12] um what recommendation on page 49 I'm
[19:15] not worried about that it's just more
[19:16] politically in
[19:18] community-wise how do we get here
[19:19] because not not ever not a lot of
[19:21] communities get to this point I mean
[19:22] there's there's not a lot of open space
[19:24] plans out there there's a handful but
[19:25] not many
[19:27] I totally agree John that it's very
[19:30] important for
[19:32] uh the public to hear from people in
[19:36] Lansing
[19:38] who are on the CAC so that they don't
[19:42] get some idea about this being imposed
[19:45] from the outside or you know I think
[19:47] that perception is very important that
[19:49] it you know it is a Grassroots thing and
[19:52] they need to see that
[19:55] and it's special you know whether they have reservations let's
[19:59] talk about that but they got to at least
[20:00] understand and appreciate you know where
[20:02] we're currently at which is no small
[20:04] task no small feat
[20:08] yeah I I I think uh an important message
[20:11] is that we're we're not here to uh take
[20:16] over people's properties
[20:18] or just we're just proposing what
[20:22] particular areas in Lansing are special
[20:25] and
[20:27] um we should the town should consider
[20:29] how how they might be protected without
[20:33] stomping on anybody's property rights
[20:37] foreign
[20:47] you know we don't we're not proposing
[20:50] any eminent domain or anything like that
[20:56] so should we leave it
[20:58] that you and I will do it Tom I at
[21:02] reservation I don't want to push you too
[21:04] much but maybe
[21:06] it's okay and that's somebody else wants
[21:09] to jump in
[21:12] um I'll just say I don't really want to
[21:14] do it because I don't know exactly how I
[21:16] would answer that question and the other
[21:18] reason is that I've already been um
[21:20] drafted into giving a talk the very
[21:23] evening before and I'd rather not have
[21:25] to think about preparing uh two
[21:28] statements for two late night meetings
[21:30] two evenings in a row if that's okay can
[21:33] I just you up
[21:42] um the evening before I got
[21:44] um drafted into a presentation for the
[21:46] Cayuga Bird Club about and the Ecuador
[21:49] bird trip that I went on so I didn't
[21:52] really want to do that either but they
[21:54] were desperate for people so I agreed to
[21:56] do it so I don't want to give two talks
[21:58] in a row yeah
[22:05] I I don't see this as really a talk it's
[22:08] just a few statements of what we're
[22:11] yeah yeah what we're doing
[22:14] I'm not even really sure how we did get
[22:16] here to be honest so we haven't been
[22:18] paying attention but I'd like to hear
[22:20] the answer to this question
[22:23] um well obviously I was here for this
[22:26] process but you know the long history of
[22:29] how we got here I don't feel qualified
[22:31] to talk about so I just you know there's
[22:33] so much backstory that I don't know
[22:37] well I think the short history is
[22:39] um you know we did a natural resources
[22:41] inventory for the town
[22:43] and then we did a Scenic resources
[22:46] inventory
[22:47] and
[22:49] you know anybody that's driven around
[22:52] this town realizes it's really a very
[22:55] nice place to live and uh there's a lot
[22:58] of really nice open land around here and
[23:03] most residents probably want to sort of
[23:06] keep it that way but how you know how do
[23:09] you do that this is sort of a systematic
[23:12] way of of assessing what's what's the
[23:15] most valuable properties
[23:18] or Parcels of land in Lansing I guess
[23:21] that's the way I view it
[23:24] yeah it's a statement of policy and
[23:27] priority
[23:29] could we talk a bit about uh the vision
[23:32] for Distributing
[23:35] um the poster
[23:36] and maybe a little bit more PR around
[23:39] that whether we want to try for another
[23:43] press release
[23:45] um
[23:46] maybe with a picture
[23:50] my husband read the Tompkins weekly and
[23:53] pointed out to me he's a big Avid Reader
[23:55] of local papers that we got
[23:58] um we got in page seven uh of the
[24:01] October 26 issue input on conservation
[24:04] plans soughts they put in all that
[24:07] including CJ's phone number and
[24:09] everything
[24:10] um but now I think we need another push
[24:12] for the public
[24:14] um
[24:15] and you know that some of that could
[24:17] happen as we're
[24:19] thinking about places to bring the
[24:20] postcard around town and maybe we have
[24:23] some copies of this that
[24:26] um can go in those same locations
[24:28] but what what do you normally do Katie
[24:30] and John with a poster like the one
[24:33] you're showing now
[24:36] so first I think we put it on the town
[24:38] website so that's been done
[24:41] and then John sorry I didn't mean to cut
[24:44] you off nope I was saying you go first
[24:46] I'm just actually gonna check the Tom's
[24:48] website
[24:50] and then yeah I mean we would just
[24:52] encourage you guys to put it up wherever
[24:55] communities members are
[24:58] typically going to the library's Town
[25:00] Hall obviously
[25:03] um
[25:04] any local businesses I mean
[25:07] the more places we we put at the better
[25:09] chance we have that someone happening to
[25:12] look at it I know we're all bombarded
[25:13] with information these days but
[25:17] um yeah I mean I think virtually is a
[25:19] really
[25:21] good option these days so if I think
[25:24] we've talked about
[25:25] using social media before I don't know
[25:28] if that's something the town supervisor
[25:30] wants to put on his Facebook page or
[25:33] if there's I mean we could send it maybe
[25:36] through the schools list serve
[25:40] and I want to take advantage of that I
[25:43] mean I know we've already used it for
[25:44] the survey so
[25:47] um School listeners are called if
[25:48] they're
[25:50] willing to and yes it's gone twice now
[25:54] include
[25:58] and it's uh the November 15th meeting
[26:01] was included in that right CJ
[26:03] whatever was in the bullet points of the
[26:06] three things went to the lcsd
[26:10] if we uh created another press release
[26:13] for you could you send that out to your
[26:15] venues CJ
[26:17] it's all about the meeting on the 15th
[26:22] uh sure okay
[26:25] um
[26:27] I'm gonna be out on the 10th and then
[26:29] the 11th we're closed so
[26:32] um if somebody can turn around a final
[26:33] version of that in the next
[26:35] couple few business days uh I don't see
[26:38] why not I'll do my best and
[26:42] I'm pretty swamped right now but I will
[26:44] do my best
[26:46] yeah and I'm trying to think in terms of
[26:48] you know what places in the town get the
[26:51] most foot traffic I mean the the Katie
[26:54] and I had lunch at That Pizza Place
[26:56] um you know is there a brewery or bar or
[26:58] you know social Gathering Place
[27:00] um doesn't have to be alcohol related
[27:02] um that you know any kind of places that
[27:04] could split traffic
[27:06] um you know that would be nice to put
[27:08] either an eight and a half by eleven or
[27:10] along my 17
[27:12] um in the door you know at the checkout
[27:15] you know if they're willing to do that
[27:17] and most most local places in our
[27:19] experience have been pretty friendly
[27:21] with that they'll you know put it in the
[27:22] window or something
[27:24] I just don't know the places in Lansing
[27:26] that get the most foot traffic for you
[27:28] know one for dinner or you know
[27:29] throughout the day
[27:30] in addition to the library and Town Hall
[27:32] in public places
[27:41] well the Lansing Market I think would
[27:43] get fair amount of traffic that would be
[27:46] a good spot
[27:56] Crossroads probably
[27:59] Rose Harbor that's a market Crossroads
[28:04] Morabito yeah all of those places CJ
[28:06] would be good
[28:14] so
[28:17] when would we put these up
[28:21] I think they go up at any time at any
[28:22] point in the next few days you know
[28:24] that's something that I don't think you
[28:26] need to wait until we get closer you
[28:28] know if any I think in the next three to
[28:30] five days would be fair game
[28:33] you know where what are we 12 days out
[28:36] so you know I'd say sooner the better
[28:38] yeah
[28:42] especially the brewery I mean just
[28:45] they're gonna get so this weekend let's
[28:47] check in the calendar
[28:51] yes you have one more weekend as I
[28:52] thought so yeah just
[28:54] um the next few days that would make
[28:56] sure that people on their busy days you
[28:58] know probably the 11th Saturday the 12th
[29:00] you know they would be seen
[29:03] um
[29:03] but I'd say get them out as soon as you
[29:05] can starting tomorrow
[29:19] so we were putting up
[29:22] what's on the screen right now
[29:26] to the right there
[29:29] yeah either eight and a half by eleven
[29:31] or if you can print 11 by 17 you know I
[29:34] know some Community uh
[29:36] I'm thinking that you know some of the
[29:38] window shops and stuff you guys don't
[29:40] have you know a full traditional Main
[29:42] Street so
[29:43] um you guys want to have that luxury of
[29:45] store Furniture Store Furniture
[29:46] storefront all with this in the window
[29:49] um but the idea is the same I mean you
[29:52] can get it in some of these other places
[29:55] um
[29:56] Faith Community you know again I think
[29:58] announcing it in church tends to do well
[30:01] um or community events if any of you are
[30:04] affiliated with any
[30:05] churches or you know synagogues or any
[30:08] of that stuff that tends to bring people
[30:10] a good dependence out as well if they'll
[30:11] announce at a church
[30:15] actually Momos and North Lansing might
[30:18] be another spot yeah that's a good one
[30:20] Chad
[30:23] that was almost
[30:26] it's a little restaurant yeah
[30:30] that's why I was guessing it sounds it
[30:32] sounds intriguing I like the name
[30:36] um another thought to
[30:39] uh with Karen's question about pushback
[30:41] and then Tom mentioning that the intent
[30:45] is not to steal anybody's rights or
[30:48] anything like that from a standpoint of
[30:52] landowners that's obviously going to be
[30:55] key and
[30:57] so the question I can see being asked is
[31:03] if land isn't going to be
[31:05] you know taken or you know
[31:11] if if we're not going to infringe on
[31:13] people's rights then how
[31:16] what are the mechanisms to accomplish
[31:18] the conservation
[31:20] you know for somebody that's interested
[31:22] in trying to do that yeah so to that end
[31:25] John would it make sense to kind of walk
[31:28] through uh one or two case studies on
[31:31] how that's worked in other places
[31:33] um I mean I can I can talk in
[31:34] generalities all day long and that I
[31:36] think that would be valuable but it
[31:38] might be more valuable to say you know
[31:39] here are some examples
[31:41] um you know the re just for this group
[31:44] um I mean the easy scenario in a general
[31:47] senses you know there it doesn't happen
[31:50] often but if there's been a handful of
[31:51] times where
[31:53] concerned property owner A or B really
[31:56] cares about open space or Community
[31:58] character or whatever the motivation
[31:59] might be you know we'll come to a
[32:01] municipality and say Hey you know would
[32:03] you support uh preserving my land but
[32:06] it's it's not prime soils it's not
[32:09] Scenic it doesn't really you know it
[32:11] doesn't have all lands not created equal
[32:12] when it comes to open space preservation
[32:14] so this is one of those scenarios where
[32:16] this document will guide that decision
[32:19] you know if if a landowner wants to do
[32:23] preservation for his or hers his or her
[32:25] own goals
[32:28] um this will help the town decide
[32:29] whether they want to try to be involved
[32:30] with that or not
[32:32] okay and and like if say a property
[32:36] owner's
[32:37] property came up as something that a
[32:40] number of people saw and thought was
[32:43] worth keeping
[32:45] then how do you approach them you know
[32:49] if they're you know
[32:52] maybe they're mildly interested in
[32:55] conserving it or they think they're
[32:56] already doing what they need or should
[32:58] be doing to conserve it
[33:00] that you
[33:02] then it basically just kind of
[33:04] sits there and if it's already open and
[33:06] they're maintaining it as open space
[33:09] then we're good yeah there's you know
[33:12] there's funding programs out there as
[33:14] well so there's scenario one you know
[33:16] there's there's open space preservation
[33:18] funding through Albany
[33:20] um some land trust but mostly through
[33:22] Albany uh Farmland preservation and
[33:26] if the pro if this town is interested in
[33:28] pursuing that what are the top 10 I'm
[33:31] making that up because you know going
[33:32] back to David Letterman what are the top
[33:34] 10 lists for open space in the town
[33:37] um you know yeah finite dollars finite
[33:39] cracks at this grant you want to put
[33:41] your best foot forward
[33:43] um so that property owner you mentioned
[33:45] John is if his or her property is 20th
[33:48] that's a different conversation than if
[33:49] his or her property was second on that
[33:52] list you know so I think John John just
[33:56] I just want to clarify too it was my
[33:58] understanding that we would be much
[34:01] um
[34:03] higher more highly rated and competitive
[34:05] for these types of Grants if we have the
[34:09] index and open space plan in place
[34:11] rather than having it I mean that that
[34:13] kind of comes back to the whole question
[34:15] of what brought us here you know it's sort of circular but I think it's
[34:19] an important point to if it if it's true
[34:22] which I think it is
[34:25] um that we would be more competitive to
[34:27] have if we had a plan in place 100 I
[34:30] mean it comes down you know Grant
[34:32] acquisition is a lot of it comes down to
[34:34] readiness
[34:36] and this would put you I think in the
[34:38] best spot in terms of Readiness
[34:41] um we've got to get into some other
[34:43] Readiness factors indicators that we
[34:46] haven't Katie and I haven't gotten into
[34:47] yet but that will go into this document
[34:50] but you know once this document is done
[34:51] and the process is completed you'll be
[34:55] in great shape for funding applications
[34:57] going forward regardless of the program
[34:59] might be State might be Federal like the
[35:01] environmental it might be Farmland you
[35:04] know these these the funding sources
[35:06] change from year to year in terms of and
[35:09] sometimes there's more than one
[35:11] um so yes I think it speaks this project
[35:13] will speak to readiness
[35:15] yeah and that's important I think that's
[35:17] an one of the important
[35:19] um talking points that we need to keep
[35:22] coming back to well why are you doing
[35:24] this why are you spending our tax money
[35:27] which is you know we got a grant for
[35:29] this first of all so that question may
[35:31] come up about why are you using tax dollars to
[35:34] do something I don't want done
[35:37] um but also
[35:40] um
[35:42] the town of Lansing you know there are
[35:44] parts of it that are uh people who are
[35:47] traditionally not very much in favor of
[35:50] planning and this is a whole different
[35:52] way of thinking about things it's a very
[35:54] logical step-wise process and you know I
[35:58] think we want to
[36:00] talk about it from a space of
[36:03] responsibility and
[36:06] acknowledgment of a broad base of input
[36:11] and comment if Comet are justification
[36:14] from a place of strength I would really
[36:16] recommend against leading with the you
[36:20] know
[36:21] placate the fears
[36:23] you know I think I think that makes us
[36:25] look weak
[36:28] I mean we're anticipating that there are
[36:30] going to be fears but I would not lead
[36:32] with that at all
[36:33] foreign
[36:35] just be prepared when you get it this is
[36:38] the idea yep
[36:43] because if you don't have answers to
[36:45] those questions when they're asked then
[36:46] that doesn't look good either
[36:48] yeah
[36:51] I mean would it make sense
[36:54] oh sorry go ahead John no this is going
[36:56] to say it sounds like an you know we've
[36:58] done this with other projects as well
[37:00] not just open space you know talk about
[37:02] what are our goals or hopes for the
[37:05] project and then what this project does
[37:07] not
[37:08] you know and this this project is you
[37:10] know not a land grab uh per se you know
[37:13] that's it's it's um
[37:16] but if but to Karen's Point here's all
[37:19] this is we're starting from here's the
[37:21] goals here's the positive here's why
[37:23] this makes sense environmentally
[37:24] Community character I mean all the
[37:26] things that open space does for Lansing
[37:28] you know
[37:29] staying that strongly proudly in the
[37:33] beginning I think Karen spot on
[37:37] yeah and along those lines it might be
[37:39] nice uh in the press release to have a a
[37:42] quote from you John Fleming something
[37:45] about
[37:46] maybe I'll call you up
[37:52] I think it's it's good to normalize it
[38:02] so the list that we've now brainstormed
[38:05] for this public meeting number one is
[38:08] uh and the places it can go uh similar
[38:11] to the places where we could put the
[38:13] post extra postcards so we're kind of
[38:16] dealing with that question
[38:18] um but we do need some worker beavers to
[38:21] get the poster and the postcards to
[38:23] these different locations
[38:26] um
[38:27] and I'm wondering if anybody's willing I
[38:30] have a list
[38:32] um that I ran by Tom today of businesses
[38:35] churches
[38:37] um Library Town Hall village of Lansing
[38:39] all sorts of places and is there anybody
[38:42] who
[38:44] wants to make a go of you know maybe
[38:47] looking at the list and splitting it up
[38:49] I can do some of the locations but I
[38:52] can't do all of them I think Tom you
[38:54] were willing to do some also
[38:56] yeah I I think we should peer down the
[38:59] list some yeah
[39:04] quite a few but whoever takes it on
[39:07] maybe could be in charge of paring it
[39:09] down and
[39:11] uh just organizing
[39:13] drop-offs and also maybe organizing how
[39:16] to get uh color copies of the of the
[39:19] poster
[39:22] are you not providing uh copies and
[39:25] posters
[39:27] or not you but I mean the town found in
[39:30] the town do that CJ
[39:34] what's what are you guys looking for
[39:35] copies of the posters
[39:38] yeah that you had a stack of them
[39:41] maybe I was thinking about the postcards
[39:43] not the poster you don't have posters
[39:46] yet but you do have postcards
[39:50] there's one poster hanging in town hall
[39:52] on the cork board this one that you see
[39:53] right here you're invited
[39:57] can we get more printed off
[40:00] I guess that's maybe I got myself
[40:03] confused because I was looking at the
[40:04] poster but do you mean you want us to
[40:06] distribute the postcards right the ones
[40:09] you already have a surplus of and and
[40:11] the posters since we're gonna some of
[40:13] the places are gonna overlap
[40:22] so I'm just wondering if there's
[40:24] somebody who wants to kind of take that
[40:25] on
[40:28] see in the next week if they can get the
[40:31] postcards dropped off and and some of
[40:34] the posters put up
[40:36] so so are the posters printed and we
[40:38] just picked up picked up and distribute
[40:40] them or do we have to print them
[40:43] they they have yet to be printed as far
[40:45] as I know I'm pretty sure there's just
[40:47] one copy at the town I don't think I have access to a
[40:53] I mean I could maybe access the one at
[40:55] the Cornell library but I don't think I
[40:57] really had I don't know if that's even
[40:59] ethical but um
[41:02] CJ can can somebody stop by the town
[41:06] hall and print a bunch up
[41:10] uh so we can probably get those printed
[41:14] on Monday uh how many copies
[41:19] 40.
[41:22] okay
[41:25] and you have a new one to pick them up
[41:27] on Monday
[41:31] Todd are you volunteering to do this
[41:35] yeah I'd be happy to help out with this
[41:38] but we kind of need to divvy up where
[41:39] the where were each Distributing these
[41:43] things maybe I could show my screen
[41:45] because I have
[41:47] uh some other locations
[41:51] um you know uh what we'll do is I'll
[41:53] just print some first thing on Monday
[41:56] after our department meeting and put
[41:59] them in the uh
[42:01] we'll put them in the vestibule and
[42:03] they'll just say CAC public meeting
[42:06] flyers on it and then people can just
[42:08] grab however many they want out of the
[42:10] pile that sounds good
[42:14] that would really be great and I have
[42:18] got an Excel spreadsheet started
[42:22] with some of these locations obviously I
[42:25] haven't added the ones that we came up
[42:27] with tonight and then the bunch of
[42:28] businesses
[42:30] from the Lansing
[42:32] um .com website so yeah and you've got
[42:35] permission at all these locations no no
[42:38] just just pulled the list together today
[42:40] after
[42:41] um brainstorming actually with CJ
[42:44] because I didn't know this list existed
[42:45] until today but that's ones that are on
[42:48] the website and then these are ones that
[42:50] I came up with and then we can add uh
[42:52] the ones you know like the Ridge and
[42:54] things like that
[42:56] um that we came up with
[42:57] um tonight
[42:59] almost
[43:03] um so I I'm willing to add to it and
[43:06] then send it to whoever
[43:09] um might be willing to do some
[43:11] coordinating maybe two it's a two-person
[43:13] job
[43:15] um
[43:19] and I have all the postcards at my house
[43:22] it's two large boxes so I think it's a
[43:25] question of posters and postcards
[43:28] because they have different information
[43:29] on them
[43:32] so you're going to want the poster and
[43:35] the postcards at the same locations I
[43:37] think that would be great unless that
[43:40] might be if we're gonna pick up the
[43:41] posters at Town Hall maybe if the
[43:43] postcards could be there
[43:45] we can drop the postcards off of town
[43:48] hall
[43:49] yeah anytime you can just put them in
[43:51] the vestibule and put a note on them and
[43:53] then anyone can go in anytime those
[43:54] doors are always open the exterior yeah
[43:57] that would be awesome and then it's just
[43:59] a question of
[44:01] figuring out okay who's who's going to
[44:03] take what
[44:05] um
[44:06] is that where you're going to have the
[44:07] posters CJ and the vestibule you got it
[44:10] we'll just put it all you know uh
[44:12] whatever comes first if the postcards
[44:14] show up we'll just put the Flyers with
[44:16] them and if the Flyers are out first and
[44:18] then you bring the postcards on Monday
[44:19] morning or sometime they can just all be
[44:22] together in a little corner there no one
[44:24] will
[44:25] hopefully no one will bother them I
[44:26] doubt if somebody will be monkeying with
[44:28] them
[44:30] well if someone takes them and
[44:32] distributes them then we're golden
[44:33] okay great
[44:39] yeah well I could certainly distribute
[44:40] some of them to some of those business
[44:42] factors that the last one which is the
[44:44] dentist I have an appointment on on
[44:45] Tuesday so I can easily take up there
[44:48] that'd be awesome
[44:51] well
[44:51] [Music]
[44:53] um I I'm happy to forward uh fix up this
[44:57] Excel spreadsheet and send it out and
[45:00] there are 1700 extra postcards to work
[45:03] with so we're just flush with postcards
[45:05] another
[45:06] untapped resource is the school system
[45:09] and
[45:11] um it would be fabulous if somebody had
[45:15] a contact at the school and we could
[45:18] figure out a way to get science teachers
[45:19] to hand these postcards to their kids
[45:22] because we don't have I don't think any
[45:25] respondents so far who are real
[45:27] youngsters uh at least Katie you had
[45:29] said
[45:30] to your knowledge there really were no
[45:32] Youth and be so great
[45:35] um
[45:37] someone's got a contact
[45:39] UM
[45:40] lcsd
[45:42] well my wife's the seventh grade biology
[45:44] teacher so I can that might be too young
[45:47] for youth but I can ask her
[45:49] no it's not too young okay
[45:52] you can put her in her office but she
[45:54] might know who in the high school would
[45:56] be also receptive
[45:59] there you go that's my distribution I
[46:01] got my my chaos that's great
[46:03] that would be great
[46:05] so Todd are are you able to get them
[46:08] from the town hall for her or I can get
[46:11] them from the town hall I can also do
[46:12] the Methodist Church that's I have easy
[46:15] access to that
[46:17] um and I don't mind doing what I really
[46:20] don't want to do is I don't want to be
[46:21] running to all the ends of Tompkins
[46:24] County to just to deliver my if I can
[46:26] have a clump that's kind of I think
[46:28] that's what we all want right if we want
[46:30] to have like okay
[46:31] I can make all these stops in 20 minutes
[46:34] or something
[46:35] awesome but yeah if you post that I'll sign up for the ones that I think
[46:40] are the easiest for me to access no the
[46:43] library the school
[46:46] the church I don't know maybe we can
[46:48] start there
[46:49] Library School Church okay and I think
[46:52] what we can do is if we have two people
[46:54] who want to do the same place we just
[46:56] will do like leg wrestling to see who
[46:58] gets to to do that one
[47:01] all right
[47:05] and I'm assuming a lot of these places
[47:07] don't know where we have this list that
[47:09] they're on right so it's you're kind of
[47:12] it's going to be a cold call there
[47:14] to see if they're willing
[47:16] it'll be based on your good looks John
[47:19] so I think I think we're in
[47:24] trouble
[47:28] awesome
[47:30] this is really
[47:32] a fabulous Blitz here
[47:38] so Carrie you're going to send out the
[47:40] list
[47:42] and people are gonna
[47:44] mark
[47:46] where they're going or are we gonna
[47:49] try and post a list uh right where the
[47:53] rate in the vestibule and people can
[47:55] mark
[47:57] um where they're going how are we going
[47:59] to do this I think Robin suggested uh
[48:02] Google Docs
[48:04] yeah not everybody is always able to get
[48:07] into the Google Docs
[48:09] um
[48:11] I realized probably don't have time to
[48:14] go through it here but
[48:16] um yeah I'm just suggesting that we not
[48:18] get into the specifics right now just
[48:21] looking at the time of who's going to
[48:22] drive what business
[48:26] why don't we include the uh a list with
[48:30] that we put in the vestibule and then
[48:32] when people go to pick things up they
[48:35] can see who's already covered what
[48:39] okay I think we need one person to
[48:42] Shepherd it it sounds like Todd's
[48:44] willing to do a certain number of things
[48:46] I put his name on those is there anybody
[48:49] who can kind of Shepherd the whole thing
[48:53] um
[48:54] so that we we have the bases covered and
[48:57] they can make sure that pile of
[49:00] postcards is decreasing and the pile of
[49:02] posters is decreasing
[49:07] because I think without a champion it
[49:09] could languish
[49:17] I don't have any time until Wednesday
[49:20] Thursday Friday of next week
[49:22] as far as
[49:24] what I have free
[49:32] I am likely out of town from Tuesday to
[49:36] Friday or Saturday next week
[49:42] okay why don't we find out who the
[49:43] people are that are going to distribute
[49:45] and then that group can get together a
[49:46] couple of the plan of how they're going
[49:48] to
[49:49] um organize themselves I think the idea
[49:51] of when you've put them out at certain
[49:54] places
[49:55] put a note in the box that says these
[49:57] places are covered so nobody has to
[49:58] recover do them we can have it we can
[50:00] have the sheet there
[50:02] something like that but but yeah I think
[50:05] for the bigger group if there's only
[50:07] like maybe four of us that do it let's
[50:08] have those four people organize
[50:10] themselves
[50:11] okay so could that be you Todd and Ed
[50:15] and John even John I know you're not
[50:17] good till next week at the end of the
[50:19] week but that's okay I think it'd be
[50:21] perfect I think Ed would be perfect yes
[50:25] I seconded
[50:29] okay and we don't we don't have to go to
[50:33] all of these places
[50:34] that's right there's a list of 50 I mean
[50:37] I think that's Overkill I'll send it out
[50:40] to everybody we we will uh I'll send you
[50:43] the Excel spreadsheet and then uh John
[50:46] and Ed can keep adding people's names as
[50:50] they volunteer when they see it um and
[50:52] otherwise they'll just make sure that uh that the cards and the posters
[50:57] get where they need to and meanwhile it
[50:59] will all end up in the vestibule
[51:01] um so that everybody has access and I
[51:03] think you'll be able to all be there by
[51:05] the postcards can be there by uh
[51:07] tomorrow
[51:08] foreign
[51:11] and hopefully we're gonna get a postcard
[51:14] in the mail
[51:15] for the next day or two
[51:17] yes
[51:20] YMCA Robin awesome what what if we don't
[51:25] uh
[51:27] if we don't get a postcard in the mail
[51:29] yeah I mean that's that's really our
[51:32] main way of communicating with this town
[51:34] right now we are well uh if we don't get
[51:39] it tomorrow or Saturday we'll get it
[51:41] Monday
[51:45] yeah they'll still have eight days so
[51:48] okay here let me know when you drop them
[51:50] off tomorrow because I might be able to
[51:51] do some tomorrow and some on Monday
[51:53] okay great it'll be
[51:56] um by 10 o'clock AM
[52:11] okay should we move on to the
[52:14] stakeholder interviews did I just ask
[52:17] since we're we had left off with Katie
[52:19] and uh John Steinmetz on the office
[52:24] hours
[52:25] for CJ we didn't quite cover that that's
[52:28] going to be on the 16th
[52:30] [Music]
[52:31] um
[52:32] is did I did I read properly that you
[52:36] had written in the chat Todd that you're
[52:39] going to be available on the 16th for
[52:42] the office hours with CJ or yeah it
[52:45] sounded like we had we don't know how
[52:46] many people are going to be there
[52:48] I would hate to have more CAC people
[52:50] show up than actual participants so if that if uh John or Darcy or Katie can
[52:58] um
[52:58] send me an email and say hey look we've
[53:01] got a lot of people I'll just jump down
[53:02] there I'm
[53:04] so so that's the 15th that's Tuesday
[53:07] that's right but then Wednesday at 5 30.
[53:10] the 16th and that's office hours with CJ
[53:14] yeah
[53:15] just check 15th
[53:20] it'd be it should be a Tuesday
[53:23] and Wednesday so we have a we have quite
[53:26] a few CAC members who said they could do
[53:28] the Tuesday thing Wednesday I think we
[53:31] should have at least one CAC member
[53:33] represent
[53:34] along with CJ
[53:37] um and I can't remember whether Katie or
[53:39] John Steinmetz can um come but I know
[53:44] you know just to have CJ there uh
[53:46] without a CAC person it seems a little
[53:49] bit
[53:49] um Wednesday actually works better for
[53:51] me than Tuesday
[53:53] you want to join CJ office hours is that
[53:57] what you were saying you needed somebody
[53:58] for I think it would be great okay
[54:02] CJ I'll join you on Wednesday the 15th
[54:04] send us a reminder so I get it on my
[54:06] calendar
[54:08] yeah Carrie we can't we can't help out
[54:11] we've got a open house in Tonawanda that
[54:13] night okay all right that's clear
[54:17] I'm just gonna pop it right into our
[54:19] little chat here
[54:26] and it looks like Robin uh said in the
[54:28] chat she could switch to Wednesday
[54:31] um all depends how many people we think
[54:34] we need for office hours for that I
[54:37] thought on on the 16th
[54:41] do you have a preference CJ
[54:44] uh no I've honestly thought that I was
[54:47] just doing it by myself so yeah you
[54:49] prefer Robin admit it
[54:51] I don't know I don't have any horse in
[54:54] this race
[55:00] sorry CJ go ahead no I just I can't do
[55:02] four night meetings in a row that's a
[55:04] personal policy so um so that's kind of
[55:07] where I'm at I don't want to do three
[55:08] things
[55:15] might be more of us there are the public
[55:18] and I I don't know if you'd rather have
[55:20] me there on Wednesday or or Tuesday but
[55:22] you don't get both so I mean welcome
[55:25] yeah John feel free to correct me if I'm
[55:28] wrong but I think we in person is
[55:31] probably the more important
[55:34] event to have CAC members because we're
[55:36] going to be physically breaking up
[55:38] into groups
[55:40] I think I think you know one on the any
[55:43] kind of virtual call is fine I mean if
[55:45] you if you had two plus CJ that wouldn't
[55:47] be the end of the world either
[55:49] um but I think out of the two I think
[55:50] the in person would be more important
[55:53] okay
[55:55] great so we want you
[55:57] on the 15th Robin
[55:59] okay
[56:02] we have a white attendance Robin you can
[56:04] just talk about your bird presentation
[56:05] from the late before you need to do it
[56:07] twice
[56:09] still be rehearsed from the night before
[56:12] don't confuse her
[56:16] sorry for the bunny trail but I think
[56:18] it's great to get the bases covered
[56:20] and uh so now back to stakeholder
[56:24] meetings Katie thanks okay
[56:27] yeah so we'll just take like five more
[56:28] minutes of your time because I know
[56:30] you've got a lot on your plate tonight
[56:31] so
[56:32] um we have reached out to stakeholders
[56:35] we reached out starting mid-october
[56:38] um to the individuals that we identified
[56:41] within the four groups which are
[56:42] agriculture local business
[56:45] um environmental and local agencies and
[56:48] reached out about setting up separate
[56:50] meetings we didn't get a lot of feedback
[56:53] reached out again still really haven't
[56:55] heard back and so what John and I um in
[56:58] conversation with
[56:59] um a few CAC members were proposed to do
[57:03] and got signed off from CJ and and the
[57:06] crew is to have kind of more of an open
[57:08] house style format to maximize the
[57:11] amount of time that we have available
[57:15] for people to speak with us so the idea
[57:17] is that we'll have
[57:19] a four-hour session and from the late
[57:21] afternoon into the evening on
[57:24] Tuesday November 8th which is coming up
[57:27] shortly and then
[57:30] um more of a morning afternoon session
[57:32] on Wednesday
[57:35] um from ten to one so we reached out
[57:38] about that to all of our stakeholders
[57:40] there's about
[57:42] just a little under 30 of them in total
[57:46] um and we still have only heard from
[57:49] three people so
[57:51] um at this point I think
[57:53] um
[57:55] this is we could do some help with
[57:58] having people reach out via phone I
[58:02] think if someone hears from someone they
[58:04] know personally it might help
[58:06] um
[58:07] get a response from them
[58:09] um John I don't know if you want to add
[58:10] anything
[58:12] no it's it's um
[58:15] yeah any any traction you can help us
[58:17] would be good you know and initially we
[58:20] had talked about and worked more is fine
[58:22] but we you know we each typically figure
[58:24] well if we can talk to four to six
[58:25] people that'd be great
[58:27] um you know four became 30 which means
[58:28] focus groups which is fine but when we
[58:30] start to go from Individual calls to
[58:32] groups and we need your help because you
[58:35] know right now at least in Lansing we're
[58:36] having a hard time getting groups set up
[58:39] um you know so any advice you can give
[58:42] us would be helpful on this one
[58:50] can can you send us a list of
[58:54] the stakeholders and who has
[58:57] committed and who hasn't
[58:59] yeah so I was going to suggest
[59:02] um that I can send out a list of who
[59:04] hasn't responded and if people want to
[59:06] take one or two of those people just to
[59:08] give them a call if you know them
[59:09] personally great
[59:12] um and then uh we'll do the best we can
[59:15] to continue to try to reach out to
[59:17] people in advance of next week so that
[59:19] we can kind of maximize participation
[59:20] but yeah I can send that out Tom and
[59:23] then I don't know sounds like Google
[59:26] Docs isn't the right way to go
[59:29] if we just want to do a via email chain
[59:31] that's fine
[59:33] um
[59:34] and then we can just kind of go from
[59:35] there
[59:36] and can you put the dates and times of
[59:39] those two sessions right with that so
[59:41] yep
[59:43] thank you
[59:45] and more flexible I mean and a little
[59:47] desperate at this point so if it's a
[59:50] situation where you know Tom you talk to
[59:52] someone and he or she says well I'm
[59:54] really not comfortable talking in a
[59:56] group if someone would call me I'd be
[59:58] happy with a conversation so I mean if
[1:00:02] Katie has to do the you know not has to
[1:00:04] if Katie does the people in the room and
[1:00:06] I need to make calls during that time
[1:00:07] period that's fine we just don't want to
[1:00:09] be calling 30 people if we can help it
[1:00:11] that's not really an efficient sort of
[1:00:12] time
[1:00:13] um but right now we just want to have
[1:00:15] some conversations so
[1:00:17] um bikers can't be choosers so if
[1:00:19] there's one or two people that that it's
[1:00:21] just better for me to call them that's
[1:00:23] fine too I can't call 30 but I can speak
[1:00:25] for one or two if we can get a good
[1:00:28] portion of 30 to join us during these
[1:00:30] open house office hours that would be
[1:00:32] really helpful so you know any however
[1:00:35] we got to reach out to these people
[1:00:37] we're happy to do it but if you can kind
[1:00:39] of motivate people to join us next 2010
[1:00:42] Wednesday Thursday I don't want to say
[1:00:43] the wrong thing Katie
[1:00:46] that'd be great okay I will I will send
[1:00:51] a note like I said I would but I just
[1:00:53] was waiting to kind of get the go ahead
[1:00:55] on this to to Hillary Lambert and to gay
[1:00:59] Nicholson and you know if you can let me
[1:01:01] know who else is on the Environmental
[1:01:06] stakeholder group I can do that I'm
[1:01:09] sorry I think we should pull up the list
[1:01:11] now because this is this is next Tuesday
[1:01:14] and Wednesday
[1:01:16] and so we although they can have those
[1:01:19] conversations later
[1:01:22] I mean it could happen
[1:01:24] aren't you trying to get them together
[1:01:26] on those days if possible if possible
[1:01:29] it's always nice to do the stakeholder
[1:01:32] stuff before the first public meeting
[1:01:35] um at least some of them it just kind of
[1:01:36] helps us understand some of the hot
[1:01:38] button issues and it's not uncommon then
[1:01:41] to have some of those triple later into
[1:01:42] the process but yeah we could have some
[1:01:45] um
[1:01:46] pick a date and have a conversation you
[1:01:48] know ideally next week that would be
[1:01:50] great with some of these folks doesn't
[1:01:51] have to be all of them but hopefully
[1:01:52] some of them I mean is it possible just
[1:01:55] to pop up the list and yeah let me pop
[1:01:57] up the list and then if people want to
[1:01:59] just throw in the chat or
[1:02:03] um
[1:02:05] just let me know who they want to reach
[1:02:07] out to that'd be great I mean because
[1:02:08] you've been you've been nudging without
[1:02:10] much success and we we need to help you
[1:02:13] now okay so that's the can you see that
[1:02:17] yeah okay great so that's the list
[1:02:19] breaking up broken out by Focus Group
[1:02:25] so have you heard
[1:02:27] these are all people who have yet to
[1:02:29] respond
[1:02:31] so I I could ping Andy Zepp okay great
[1:02:35] okay and I will all right let me write
[1:02:38] this down Jody and Katrina Roger
[1:02:43] all of them
[1:02:45] um Candace is
[1:02:47] had covered for the last three weeks so
[1:02:50] I doubt that she's gonna
[1:02:56] Jody
[1:02:59] Katrina
[1:03:00] [Music]
[1:03:08] okay and would you do me I'm I'm really
[1:03:11] sorry to ask for this but I'm on my iPad
[1:03:14] and I can't see the office hours can you
[1:03:17] just tell me again when they are
[1:03:19] yeah so they're I could shoot you an
[1:03:22] email too Karen but they're
[1:03:24] um Tuesday the 8th from three to seven
[1:03:28] and Wednesday the 9th from 10 to 1.
[1:03:35] and we're asking people to show up on
[1:03:37] the hour so we're gonna have that whole
[1:03:40] session open but ideally we'll I mean
[1:03:42] we'll we'll talk to anyone who shows up
[1:03:44] at any time obviously but ideally
[1:03:46] someone would show up at the top of the hour and then what we
[1:03:50] will talk to whoever's there for that
[1:03:52] hour
[1:03:54] yeah I mean I I think that you know
[1:03:58] most of these people
[1:04:00] are really just sick and tired of being
[1:04:03] yelled at by anti-environmentalists and
[1:04:05] they will avoid a sort of a free-for-all
[1:04:09] with people that they are not on the
[1:04:12] same team with
[1:04:14] um I certainly wouldn't want to do that
[1:04:17] myself
[1:04:19] um and I think they're just very likely
[1:04:21] either going to want to all be in the
[1:04:22] same room together or talk one-on-one
[1:04:27] um
[1:04:27] I know that it's it's that's that's not
[1:04:31] what you want to hear but I think this
[1:04:32] is what we were trying to avoid in the
[1:04:34] first place by sort of uh
[1:04:37] having these different these these
[1:04:39] groups yeah and I yeah I get that Karen
[1:04:42] and I I understand completely I think
[1:04:44] it's just been it's been a challenge for
[1:04:46] us to
[1:04:47] just coordinate quite frankly so I think
[1:04:49] we're just trying to talk to people as
[1:04:52] soon as we can in the most efficient way
[1:04:54] possible
[1:04:55] if someone wants to have that one-on-one
[1:04:58] conversation
[1:04:59] um we can make that happen
[1:05:00] well that's that's the thing you know
[1:05:02] that that I'm offering too and I think I
[1:05:04] did mention this before is that if you
[1:05:06] have that list of questions I would be
[1:05:10] understanding that you have just got a
[1:05:12] ton of stuff on your plate I could have
[1:05:14] these one-on-one conversations if I had
[1:05:16] the consistent
[1:05:19] prompts
[1:05:20] if you want to call it
[1:05:22] um that that would guide in the
[1:05:25] information that you're trying to
[1:05:26] collect so I mean that's
[1:05:28] okay yeah yes that's what I can offer
[1:05:33] so let's and Karen feel free to chime in
[1:05:37] and just say forget plan a but plan a
[1:05:40] um gaming I don't have a problem if you
[1:05:43] can talk to those folks in the next
[1:05:44] couple days if we can designate one of
[1:05:47] those times to those folks
[1:05:49] you know if we needed to you know we
[1:05:51] could say look it we're gonna
[1:05:53] the first time slot on whatever day is
[1:05:56] just from environmental folks that's
[1:05:58] easy if we could get all them to say you
[1:06:00] know
[1:06:02] day one or day two is better for most of
[1:06:04] us we'll take it you know and if that
[1:06:07] doesn't work then if um having you kind
[1:06:09] of reach out to them
[1:06:11] one-on-one or you know one on two or
[1:06:13] whatever the case may be we'll take you
[1:06:15] up on that
[1:06:17] they can commit to not all six of them
[1:06:20] but if we can get a handful of them to
[1:06:22] commit to a time we'll just set aside
[1:06:24] that hour for them
[1:06:26] yeah I think that's probably like
[1:06:28] herding cats if you can't even get them
[1:06:30] to answer period to try to get them to
[1:06:32] all be you know six of them agree on one
[1:06:36] or two hours
[1:06:37] hey yeah
[1:06:41] I can ask but I just think it's an it's
[1:06:43] a it's going to be an extra step yeah
[1:06:46] it's been a challenge with uh in Lansing
[1:06:48] when it comes to this
[1:06:50] and I could get a hold of everybody on
[1:06:53] that AG list
[1:06:54] and in the event that they're interested
[1:06:57] in these times what would be the
[1:07:01] is it going to be a zoom type thing or
[1:07:04] yeah we will actually let me
[1:07:08] send you I'll send you all an email with
[1:07:11] all the information who's going to reach
[1:07:13] out to people but I will set up a link
[1:07:15] so that you can send that you can send
[1:07:17] that along as well
[1:07:19] yeah send that to everybody uh yep in
[1:07:22] the CAC
[1:07:26] and maybe
[1:07:27] um
[1:07:28] maybe this list too so that
[1:07:31] it's reminding everybody who's on the
[1:07:34] list
[1:07:35] so Ed it seems like pretty critical for
[1:07:38] Ed Levine to be
[1:07:40] interviewed
[1:07:41] any suggestions CJ on how that could
[1:07:44] happen
[1:07:50] um that's a good question I would assume
[1:07:53] he would he didn't respond by email I'm
[1:07:56] assuming is that what I'm going to get
[1:07:59] from this yeah
[1:08:01] okay
[1:08:03] um well I have a standing call with him
[1:08:04] on Tuesday Mornings um
[1:08:07] I'm happy to mention it um I think you
[1:08:10] all copied me on each of the emails that
[1:08:12] went out to each stakeholder group so I
[1:08:14] can just like bring that to the top of
[1:08:16] his inbox
[1:08:17] if that sounds like a reasonable
[1:08:18] approach
[1:08:22] sounds good yeah that would be great
[1:08:24] thanks that's perfect because then you
[1:08:26] know we have at least some coverage
[1:08:31] um I could I could reach out to Sean
[1:08:37] walzinski
[1:08:39] okay I know him
[1:08:42] I I could reach out to
[1:08:45] um Mike Ziegler and Deborah Dawson
[1:08:49] okay and uh
[1:08:53] Dan Siegel
[1:08:56] I can hit up Jack young actually
[1:09:05] okay great that would be really helpful
[1:09:10] um and I think
[1:09:13] I can I can give these people a call as
[1:09:16] well I mean I think again it would be
[1:09:18] best if it's someone from Lansing rather
[1:09:19] than a cold call from a consultant but
[1:09:23] um
[1:09:24] I think we've got a good chunk of this
[1:09:25] list taken up
[1:09:29] yeah maybe just focus on the ones that
[1:09:31] haven't been signed up for Katie
[1:09:39] okay great
[1:09:41] okay
[1:09:48] all right so I think that's all we had
[1:09:51] just really quickly November we're gonna
[1:09:53] have the stakeholder interviews
[1:09:55] um continue to promote the meeting and
[1:09:57] hold the meeting and then continue to
[1:09:59] promote the survey
[1:10:01] once the survey closes on November 30th
[1:10:03] we'll start synthesizing those results
[1:10:04] and then we'll start developing that
[1:10:07] conservation land assessment tool which
[1:10:09] we will
[1:10:10] um
[1:10:11] speak to you guys all about either in
[1:10:13] December or January
[1:10:16] super
[1:10:20] thank you and I enjoy the rest of your
[1:10:22] meeting
[1:10:24] hopeful update thank you Katie and John
[1:10:27] I could I could probably also reach out
[1:10:29] to Eileen Stout also okay
[1:10:33] great
[1:10:34] thanks Tom
[1:10:41] but you're gonna you're gonna send us
[1:10:43] something that
[1:10:45] describes what this is about yep and
[1:10:48] I'll also send out a list of who said they would speak to who and all
[1:10:52] the information associated with this
[1:10:54] yeah if you if I if um I see a list of
[1:10:57] who you didn't speak to him or who
[1:10:58] didn't respond I might be able to fill
[1:11:00] on a few gaps too okay
[1:11:06] that's great
[1:11:08] thanks a lot
[1:11:11] yeah thanks everyone
[1:11:13] this has been very helpful for us thank
[1:11:15] you
[1:11:16] um we'll talk soon
[1:11:20] have a nice night
[1:11:28] okay moving on to new members
[1:11:32] we need two new members
[1:11:36] is that right
[1:11:42] um
[1:11:46] Ruth Hopkins had recommended somebody
[1:11:50] uh and I've been in touch with them and
[1:11:54] also uh Carey has been in touch with
[1:11:57] them and um
[1:11:59] and he may be watching uh the movie the meeting right now
[1:12:06] so
[1:12:07] um
[1:12:08] yeah so that that's one possibility but
[1:12:11] we we would like to see some more
[1:12:14] candidates if possible
[1:12:19] so if anybody and if anybody has any
[1:12:22] ideas of
[1:12:25] um
[1:12:29] I don't know if I have any ideas but
[1:12:31] John anybody else from the farming
[1:12:32] community that might join us
[1:12:34] we don't have Andrew anymore so we feel
[1:12:37] like we're down a person on the
[1:12:39] farming Community who share some of the
[1:12:41] same concerns you bring up
[1:12:43] every single me I don't want I don't
[1:12:45] want to exaggerate every single meeting
[1:12:49] we sort of have Android I mean she's not
[1:12:52] here now but she's still a liaison from
[1:12:55] a town board okay you just don't know
[1:12:58] how much longer anyway John if you can
[1:13:01] think of anybody else that would be a
[1:13:02] good sector
[1:13:04] keep including in here because then you
[1:13:06] have like buy-in from people who are the
[1:13:08] probably the most concerned about this
[1:13:09] stuff
[1:13:11] yep I can put some feelers out
[1:13:16] see if there's some interests
[1:13:18] maybe all those people you contact for
[1:13:20] stakeholders
[1:13:23] and by the way
[1:13:26] so what happened you'd be a good person
[1:13:27] John I I know I'm just tangential but I
[1:13:30] don't know how you'd fit here
[1:13:32] which Hatfield uh
[1:13:34] to John Hatfield whoever the Hatfield is
[1:13:37] that does the chicken
[1:13:40] oh no one yeah
[1:13:45] um I don't know about him okay okay
[1:13:48] that's fine
[1:13:50] and I don't know how Bob Munson would be
[1:13:54] and Pete Larsen would be sort of on the
[1:13:55] fridge
[1:13:58] oops sorry Pete Larson would probably be
[1:13:59] on The Fringe a little bit
[1:14:03] right but might be worth talking to yeah
[1:14:07] okay yeah okay Bob Munson
[1:14:10] I don't you know obviously I'd let him
[1:14:13] make the decision but I'm not sure I
[1:14:15] think he's
[1:14:16] pretty busy busy you know he's only
[1:14:19] running four businesses at the same time
[1:14:20] yeah right okay how about Skip Hardy
[1:14:24] skip Hardy's another good well it kind
[1:14:27] of represents the same Farm John
[1:14:28] represents but he's right he's a good
[1:14:31] person
[1:14:33] so he's also on a bunch of national
[1:14:36] fairy Mills so his he's out of town a
[1:14:39] lot okay
[1:14:42] probably should try to diversify a
[1:14:45] little bit away from
[1:14:47] um
[1:14:48] okay just think about it John let us
[1:14:50] know if you think of somebody all right
[1:14:52] yeah or even just big landowners not
[1:14:54] necessarily Farmers yeah yeah
[1:14:59] um
[1:15:00] one good thing about getting the
[1:15:01] postcard distributed is it has on there
[1:15:03] that we're looking for CAC members so
[1:15:07] you know the more postcards we get out
[1:15:09] uh the more people are aware that we're
[1:15:13] beating the bushes to get some more CAC
[1:15:15] members
[1:15:18] Yeah by listing our names that could be
[1:15:20] a double-edged sword
[1:15:22] oh our names are not on there
[1:15:25] okay good only CJ
[1:15:29] so don't you worry town of Lansing and
[1:15:32] CJ are on the postcard
[1:15:41] so the process do you want to go over
[1:15:45] that Tom or you want me to mention it
[1:15:47] say that again the process for the new
[1:15:51] CAC members is that they need to apply
[1:15:54] by November 30th and they need to do
[1:15:58] that through I believe it's a Tompkins
[1:16:00] County website uh right CJ
[1:16:04] um and then
[1:16:06] um we will be getting the this
[1:16:09] um Regular influx of applications as a
[1:16:14] CAC we'll need to review them
[1:16:17] um ASAP because
[1:16:19] um our December meeting is on the first
[1:16:23] and so the idea is that as soon as an
[1:16:26] application comes in Heather's going to
[1:16:28] notify the applicant that it's highly
[1:16:31] likely that they will need to be
[1:16:33] interviewed during the CAC meeting on
[1:16:35] Thursday December 1st
[1:16:37] and so um we could have a number of
[1:16:42] people to interview if we're lucky on
[1:16:44] that night and we'll do it the way we
[1:16:46] did last year where they come I think we
[1:16:49] allowed about a half an hour uh for each
[1:16:52] one then a 15 minute break just because
[1:16:57] it doesn't always work out so neatly and
[1:16:59] then the next one would start
[1:17:00] so
[1:17:02] um just to prepare you for that meeting
[1:17:06] um looking at the applications ahead of
[1:17:08] time and then we'll probably circulate
[1:17:11] questions ahead of time like we did last
[1:17:13] year
[1:17:14] and then do the interviews on December
[1:17:16] 1st then we would need to make
[1:17:18] recommendations so we'd need to you know
[1:17:20] stay after the interviews talk about the
[1:17:22] candidates
[1:17:24] um
[1:17:25] make sure the candidate still wants us
[1:17:28] and then recommend to the board I hope I
[1:17:31] have that all correct uh CJ so I'm
[1:17:34] confused though I have the application
[1:17:36] is from the county
[1:17:44] yeah um there's a repository like an
[1:17:48] archive called laserfish and it's a you
[1:17:50] know the county clerk's uh graciously
[1:17:53] set this up for us so that when someone
[1:17:54] hit submit uh I get a copy Heather gets
[1:17:57] copy town clerk gets a copy it kind of
[1:17:59] um makes it easier for everyone to
[1:18:01] coordinate and turns an application into
[1:18:02] a PDF which is super nice so just makes
[1:18:06] it easy for all of us to coordinate
[1:18:07] especially because you know the town
[1:18:09] clerks take uh record all the committee
[1:18:11] members let people know when terms are
[1:18:13] up and really organize all that for the
[1:18:15] annual organizational resolutions so
[1:18:18] that's just a helpful way for us to
[1:18:20] coordinate
[1:18:22] so if somebody wants to apply they have
[1:18:24] to go to the county they don't go to the
[1:18:26] town no no no no no no you of course
[1:18:28] yeah they go to lansingtown.com
[1:18:31] and uh if you see the uh button on the
[1:18:34] top that says
[1:18:36] um uh boards and committees under
[1:18:38] departments
[1:18:40] um you can click on any different
[1:18:43] committee and in this instance uh you
[1:18:45] have click on conservation advisory
[1:18:47] Council and in fact if you want uh we'll
[1:18:50] just uh
[1:18:52] walk you right through it so hold on
[1:18:53] just a moment and I will
[1:18:57] show you how
[1:18:58] um how easy it is
[1:19:01] so um yep here's on the town page and
[1:19:04] just to let you know we do have um the
[1:19:06] events so ccc's tonight and then we also
[1:19:09] have the events coming up
[1:19:11] on the calendar as well so um folks are
[1:19:14] aware of those
[1:19:16] and the flyer and such but if you want
[1:19:18] to apply you simply go to boards and
[1:19:20] committees and here's all the towns the
[1:19:22] boards and committees is currently
[1:19:24] listed and you go to CAC and you're
[1:19:26] going to go right to this application uh
[1:19:28] right here okay so um click on this
[1:19:31] application and it takes you to yes it
[1:19:33] is an external page through this LF web
[1:19:35] uh so it's hosted by the laser archive
[1:19:39] but we use it as our repository for all
[1:19:43] kinds of archival Records so it's
[1:19:44] actually really great resource and so
[1:19:47] folks fill this out just like they did
[1:19:49] like um you remember the old paper
[1:19:51] application which we still have the
[1:19:52] paper no worries if you'd like to fill
[1:19:54] out paper we can certainly accommodate
[1:19:56] that but then these folks just will hit
[1:19:59] submit and depending on the committee
[1:20:01] that they're submitting to we'll send to
[1:20:02] a different person in uh Town Hall but
[1:20:05] always including the Town Clerk and such
[1:20:07] so it's a great record-keeping tool for
[1:20:09] us so that's it that's the whole thing
[1:20:11] CJ or Carrie um I just saw that fly by
[1:20:15] so quickly I'm sorry if maybe I missed
[1:20:18] or something or dropped the ball but I
[1:20:21] my term expires next month am I supposed
[1:20:23] to reapply
[1:20:26] uh yes so we have uh so let me go to our
[1:20:29] uh handy dandy
[1:20:30] um board
[1:20:33] um application process so hold on just a
[1:20:35] moment
[1:20:38] what to do
[1:20:45] let's just find it or if you CJ if you
[1:20:48] want could you just send that link
[1:20:50] around
[1:20:51] oh yes uh and it's also listed on the
[1:20:54] postcard
[1:20:55] listed on the what
[1:20:57] the post office
[1:21:00] I just need a link so I can fill it out
[1:21:03] yeah easy peasy um we'll drop that right
[1:21:06] in the chat for you
[1:21:07] so that's the uh direct link to the
[1:21:10] application so you don't have to go uh
[1:21:12] you know Meandering of course through
[1:21:14] the uh towns website which hopefully
[1:21:17] it's fairly easy to find but um foreign
[1:21:28] ago you might all um recall we created a
[1:21:32] pointed board application process to try
[1:21:36] to make things a little easier for folks
[1:21:38] to understand kind of how to go through
[1:21:40] the process of um uh you know applying
[1:21:43] for a new term or uh applying to a join
[1:21:47] for the first time uh so we're about to
[1:21:50] send out the advertisement for
[1:21:53] um inviting folks and then of course any
[1:21:56] current uh member of any of the uh
[1:21:59] bodies listed above so CAC planning
[1:22:02] organism and guard will receive an
[1:22:04] invitation with that link on it and um
[1:22:06] uh we'll just apply and see uh
[1:22:08] applications uh either scan to PDF of
[1:22:10] their paper but like I just showed you
[1:22:12] the handy dandy laserfish site just
[1:22:15] creates a wonderful PDF record for us
[1:22:17] automatically we'll circulate those two
[1:22:19] as we did last year and we go through
[1:22:21] this process as you may all be familiar
[1:22:23] with now we go into
[1:22:25] um you know executive session to you
[1:22:27] know discuss the particular candidates
[1:22:29] and then um when interviews are
[1:22:32] completed you'll make a recommendation
[1:22:34] which will then go to Soundboard
[1:22:37] um and that's pretty much it and I'm
[1:22:39] happy to drop this in the chat as well
[1:22:42] just so you all have a copy and know how
[1:22:44] that works
[1:22:45] foreign
[1:22:52] at the bottom of the flow chart there it
[1:22:55] said that the applicants
[1:22:57] um they're if they're not selected their
[1:22:59] application stays on file
[1:23:01] um yes uh so yep we'll be inviting um all
[1:23:05] the folks uh who applied previously
[1:23:09] um to apply again or we usually just
[1:23:11] reach out to say hey we have an uh
[1:23:13] application on file that we received in
[1:23:15] the last few years are you still
[1:23:16] interested basically just to confirm
[1:23:18] that they would still be interested in
[1:23:19] turning
[1:23:21] hey so another another question CJ since
[1:23:24] um
[1:23:25] if I had had made this mistake of not
[1:23:28] indicating that I might be interested to
[1:23:31] stay on the committee does that change
[1:23:33] the number of two open spots or is it
[1:23:39] um this is not this is not an automatic
[1:23:41] thing to just re re-up in other words
[1:23:43] right right we want to give
[1:23:47] um you know I think the process that the
[1:23:49] town board uh had developed here is this
[1:23:52] kind of happened you know just as covid
[1:23:54] was um kind of happening uh as well I
[1:23:58] wanted to
[1:24:00] um essentially just establish a what I
[1:24:02] guess they saw some a fair process to
[1:24:05] give people a chance to renew if they
[1:24:07] wanted to and then invite new people as
[1:24:09] well so okay so it's it's a it's a
[1:24:12] completely open field then
[1:24:14] as far as I see it um and so here's the
[1:24:17] folks currently uh so here's all of you
[1:24:20] um and so as you can see we've got and
[1:24:23] remember they're two-year staggered
[1:24:24] terms so this is not and they were all
[1:24:25] by alphabetical order there wasn't you
[1:24:28] know any other method used to indicate
[1:24:31] um terms so the B's and the E's and such
[1:24:36] are in the beginning of the alphabet and
[1:24:38] thus are ending 2022.
[1:24:41] and so the other ones you can see are
[1:24:43] 2023 so at the end of next year all the
[1:24:46] 2023 folks of course would uh re-up if
[1:24:49] they wanted to plug in oh okay so I mean
[1:24:51] Andrew's dropping off anyway Tom is
[1:24:54] dropping off anyway Evan is intersection
[1:24:58] Andrew's actually not a member anymore
[1:25:00] she's a liaison from the town board so
[1:25:02] the just the nine members here so one
[1:25:05] two three four so it's really easy it's
[1:25:08] just really Robin and me right now
[1:25:11] Robin you
[1:25:13] um Tom C and Evan ogada who I have yet
[1:25:16] to I think meet
[1:25:18] Evan's not been on the committee
[1:25:21] actively I don't think
[1:25:24] so Karen you may have an application
[1:25:27] that's already on file that you might be
[1:25:29] able to activate because I think last
[1:25:30] year you applied because we thought we
[1:25:34] had differing information about whether
[1:25:37] your term was up and I'm pretty sure you
[1:25:39] submitted an application
[1:25:41] where where do you find that well CG
[1:25:45] might be able to help somehow just dig
[1:25:47] it out
[1:25:49] um but if not you do have to reapply and
[1:25:52] um Robin you'll need to also
[1:25:56] did you see my question about whether we
[1:25:58] need to interview again
[1:26:03] um I the
[1:26:04] my memory from last year was that
[1:26:09] the CAC member made a very cursory
[1:26:14] statement of interest and then
[1:26:18] um
[1:26:19] and then they signed off somehow CJ I
[1:26:22] think you were able to do it such that
[1:26:23] the person was that they left the room
[1:26:26] and then they joined the room again but
[1:26:28] when they left the room then the CAC was
[1:26:31] able to
[1:26:32] give a thumbs up or uh express any
[1:26:35] concerns and I I don't think we've had a
[1:26:38] time when we've expressed
[1:26:40] concerns about current members
[1:26:46] so it wasn't a formal long interview
[1:26:51] okay
[1:26:52] quick quick statement of Interest
[1:26:56] so CJ do you want me to ping you
[1:26:59] separately about whether that
[1:27:03] application is still on file I mean I
[1:27:05] don't think it's changed
[1:27:07] appreciably uh yeah we're uh so early
[1:27:10] next week uh we'll be starting to pull
[1:27:14] out the prior applications from the
[1:27:16] previous three years uh and just
[1:27:19] following with with people it's part of
[1:27:21] our planning board cac's EPA process so
[1:27:24] um it's just that Heather's been in Code
[1:27:27] Enforcement Training the first module
[1:27:28] this week so uh that's why we haven't
[1:27:30] had a chance to get to it yet but
[1:27:33] we will be following up
[1:27:35] okay great thanks absolutely
[1:27:48] okay are we all set with um the new
[1:27:52] members issue
[1:27:57] I think so
[1:28:01] okay Department reports planning
[1:28:04] department report
[1:28:06] um
[1:28:07] well also I'm going to say is that the
[1:28:10] traffic impact study related to Dandy
[1:28:14] Mart
[1:28:15] has been received
[1:28:17] and it's available
[1:28:20] on the town website I believe
[1:28:26] and I have I have recused myself from
[1:28:29] The Dandy mark
[1:28:32] application
[1:28:34] because as a CAC member I you know I was
[1:28:37] part of the
[1:28:39] foreign
[1:28:40] the comments that the CAC sent to uh to
[1:28:44] the planning board regarding Dandy Mart
[1:28:49] and
[1:28:51] the town does not want to see any kind
[1:28:53] of conflict of interest
[1:28:57] regarding that issue
[1:29:01] so that that I think is the only
[1:29:04] thing that playing board is up to that relates to CAC
[1:29:13] and we have no Town board liaison here
[1:29:17] so
[1:29:20] I guess we could skip that
[1:29:22] and David do you want to say something
[1:29:24] about the um
[1:29:26] Environmental Management Council well
[1:29:28] that too is uh so there was no
[1:29:30] Environmental Management council meeting
[1:29:32] last month if you recall October 18th
[1:29:36] which almost coincided with their
[1:29:38] monthly meeting which is usually on the
[1:29:41] second Thursday of the month
[1:29:43] um they were you know some of them were
[1:29:45] pretty involved in organizing that and
[1:29:47] some of them are going to be attending
[1:29:48] that so they just skip the meeting
[1:29:52] the that was the event that was focused
[1:29:55] on
[1:29:56] uh they had various uh organizations in
[1:30:01] the Tompkins County area that were
[1:30:03] focused on Emergency Management type
[1:30:06] issues
[1:30:07] and it had sort of a climate change
[1:30:09] twist to it too thinking about flooding
[1:30:11] and some of the things we're seeing with
[1:30:12] climate change
[1:30:13] but not exclusively and it was I forget
[1:30:17] three to four different agencies fire
[1:30:18] departments police departments
[1:30:20] um
[1:30:21] I think there was someone from um yeah
[1:30:24] that
[1:30:25] Ithaca
[1:30:27] city offices that deal with Emergency
[1:30:30] Management just kind of like who you
[1:30:31] call us was really for you know General
[1:30:33] citizens uh in general very Broad
[1:30:36] uh audience involved
[1:30:38] focused on
[1:30:39] um who are concerned about you know some
[1:30:42] you know want to know what what to do in
[1:30:44] certain situations so anyway I guess it
[1:30:46] was pretty successful but that's all I
[1:30:49] have to say about that
[1:30:53] okay
[1:30:54] well I think that wraps up uh what we
[1:30:58] wanted to cover during this meeting is
[1:31:00] there any other uh new business that
[1:31:03] people want to discuss the only other
[1:31:05] one that came up was Robin's bird uh
[1:31:09] demo
[1:31:10] and
[1:31:12] um I mean Robin if you wanted to do that
[1:31:14] more thoroughly we could do it
[1:31:17] um in the next month or two or if you
[1:31:18] wanted to show it tonight that's also
[1:31:20] possible before that we do the trainings
[1:31:26] I wasn't planning to show you the bird
[1:31:30] um you joined the bird conservation tool
[1:31:32] that I sent via email
[1:31:36] um no I wasn't planning any kind of
[1:31:38] formal demo of it okay
[1:31:42] you want to do that at different meeting
[1:31:43] or just have people look at it
[1:31:45] individually
[1:31:46] well I was just thinking about
[1:31:49] um you know who who would benefit from
[1:31:52] seeing that tool and I think it
[1:31:56] all of us would benefit from it but
[1:31:59] um
[1:32:00] you know would Katie and John need to
[1:32:03] look at it to see you know understand
[1:32:06] more about you know
[1:32:08] bird habitat in Lansing and I don't I
[1:32:11] saw Karen commented on it too I'm not
[1:32:13] really sure how to use the information
[1:32:15] right now just that it was a tool that
[1:32:17] showed
[1:32:19] um various Open Spaces I see CJ has a
[1:32:22] hand raised
[1:32:25] CJ did you have something to say about
[1:32:27] it uh not about this but about another
[1:32:30] item I had spoken with Carrie earlier
[1:32:31] today about the Water Resources Council
[1:32:34] oh right yeah okay so Robin maybe we
[1:32:39] could um table it to January when um
[1:32:42] Katie and John Stein met so be with us
[1:32:44] again
[1:32:46] yeah possibly yeah I think it was just
[1:32:49] with um show some areas on the map maybe
[1:32:52] we could look at how they compare to the
[1:32:54] areas that people in the survey
[1:32:56] have already indicated Maybe
[1:32:59] there's overlap but yeah maybe not not
[1:33:02] tonight
[1:33:02] that would be awesome perfect
[1:33:11] okay
[1:33:12] um
[1:33:14] Carrie did you want to say something
[1:33:15] about the Water Resources Council well I
[1:33:18] think CJ could actually
[1:33:21] um that'd be great yeah I just wanted to
[1:33:24] um so I heard from Darby Catalia
[1:33:26] Tompkins County Planning uh asking about
[1:33:29] uh they have two vacancies for next year
[1:33:33] uh to the Tompkins County Water
[1:33:35] Resources Council and that's an Advisory
[1:33:37] Board to the County Legislature and
[1:33:39] they're looking for an at-large and
[1:33:42] Municipal seat so
[1:33:45] um they're looking for the there's no
[1:33:48] kind of official approval needed but uh
[1:33:51] we're asking about
[1:33:52] um uh or at least from their perspective
[1:33:55] I believe that the town would probably
[1:33:57] want to formally appoint somebody but I
[1:34:00] want to see if there was any interest uh
[1:34:01] from anyone on conservation advisor
[1:34:10] I might be interested
[1:34:14] okay great it was okay if I pass on your
[1:34:16] email that's a Darvish sure okay
[1:34:21] foreign
[1:34:23] okay great thank you very much unless
[1:34:25] and if there's anyone else you know uh
[1:34:27] you're interested in serving on the
[1:34:28] County Water Resources Council I'm happy
[1:34:30] to pass your name on for consideration
[1:34:32] I hope there wouldn't be a conflict of
[1:34:35] interest
[1:34:40] ing
[1:34:41] there will be
[1:34:43] I'm really
[1:34:45] um not happy with this
[1:34:48] but
[1:34:49] yeah well I think it's absolutely
[1:34:51] ludicrous that there's a conflict of
[1:34:52] interest for what what you're doing as
[1:34:54] opposed to a past present who broke
[1:34:56] every ethics Norm that we ever seen in
[1:34:59] government so we have just an absurd
[1:35:02] situation where at the local level
[1:35:04] they're holding you to a standard that's
[1:35:06] just beyond imagination and then at the
[1:35:09] at this Federal level
[1:35:11] who the hell cares
[1:35:13] yeah
[1:35:20] okay on that note and we are going to
[1:35:23] start our trainings and
[1:35:26] um
[1:35:27] we're gonna start with the workplace
[1:35:29] violence first because I think there are
[1:35:32] more people who need that training than
[1:35:35] the subsequent one and that will allow
[1:35:37] those folks to actually get off because
[1:35:41] they will have fulfilled uh the next one
[1:35:45] um
[1:35:46] I think other places Cornell Etc
[1:35:50] so
[1:35:52] um CJ I think you have uh workplace
[1:35:55] violence queued up maybe I hope
[1:35:58] and I'm not sure do we need to go live
[1:36:01] at this for this part uh no we can
[1:36:03] certainly disable that if you'd like to
[1:36:05] this is just a training now so if you'd
[1:36:07] like to end the meeting formally that's
[1:36:09] perfect peaceful
[1:36:11] okay let's uh let's adjourn