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September 15th meeting [music] for the

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Leaport County Board of Zoning Appeals.

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Good evening. I would like to call to

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order the September 15th meeting of the

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board of zoning appeals. Mr. car. Would

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you lead us in the pledge of allegiance?

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» I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you. Could I get a roll call,

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please?

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» Melissa Mishki,

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>> here. Anthony Os

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>> present. [snorts]

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>> Eric Quinton

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>> here.

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>> Jeff Balties

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>> here.

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>> Eric Schmidt

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>> here.

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>> Ernie Schmidt. Where'd I get Eric?

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» Okay, I will. Um, so the meeting minutes

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[snorts]

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uh we don't have hard copies, correct?

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>> Yep.

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>> Right. So,

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>> we did have an email.

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>> Can we go ahead? I'll approve the

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minutes as presented.

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>> Second.

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>> I have a motion and a second to approve

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the meeting minutes as presented. All in

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favor say I.

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>> I.

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>> Those opposed. Same sign. Okay.

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All right. So, this evening I want to

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remind everybody to turn your cell

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phones off or put them on vibrate,

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whichever you're more comfortable with.

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Um, petitions are the only time when you

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are able to remmonstrate. You get three

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minutes. Everybody gets three minutes.

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So, you're either for a petition or

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against a petition. Okay.

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Uh, with that said, petition number

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three, if you're here for that petition

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tonight, petition number three, it has

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been tabled until our October meeting.

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So, petition number three, if you're

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here, we'll see you next month. Okay.

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So, with that, I will entertain a motion

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to remove petition number one from the

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table.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second. All those in favor say I. I

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>> I oppose. Same sign. All right. The

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petition for special exceptions for Blue

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Stem Solar Farm LLC for approval of a

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battery and storage facility on the

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south side of East Shaw Road and north

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of East 50 North Rolling Prairie,

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Indiana 46371

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being located on a portion of the parcel

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located in Kinki Township zone Aged. We

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tabled this and I believe we had

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requested some additional information.

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So, Attorney Novak, if you'd like to

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come up.

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I do know that the board has received

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some communications that we we did get

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responses from other county offices.

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Uh, and as I recall, they were all

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favorable.

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>> Yep. I think so, too.

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>> Good evening.

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uh, members of the board.

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My name is Anthony Novak, attorney with

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Newbie Lewis Kaminsky Jones, 916 Lincoln

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Court. Um, I will give you as much

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information as you would like, but I

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will keep it brief since public comment

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was closed. Um, we had the presentation

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last month. Uh, Mr. Oz proposed a couple

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revisions to the conditions and it was

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either Mr. Os or maybe Mr. Pointton that

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then said, "Hey, can we get some input

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from the local agencies and then come

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back here September 15th?" So later that

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week then I talked to Mike just to kind

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of go through who he thought we should

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reach out to. Uh he confirmed Leaport

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City Fire Department since they would be

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the responding agency, Kanka Key

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Township Volunteer Fire Department,

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Department, Leaport uh E911,

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Security, Leaport Hazmat, Leaport EMS.

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on August 24th, I sent out a bunch of

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emails um that kind of described what we

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were doing, had a link to our

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application, emergency plan of

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everything else, uh copied the members

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of our team, including Pedro, invited

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anyone to ask questions, um and and up

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until yesterday, we slowly got responses

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from everybody. Um, I put that together

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in a summary that I sent to Mike just so

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that you guys could have a table. Um,

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the comments were either favorable in

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the sense of of everything looks good to

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no questions, no comments, no issues.

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busy um with everything going on, but

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one of his emails indicated that he

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talked to Jeff uh Hamilton and he

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doesn't really have any issues. There

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were some miscellaneous requests like uh

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Chief Snyder wanted to make sure that we

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were going to comply with the latest

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version of the international fire code

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which is 2024. Uh Pedro confirmed that

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we are. That was a revision that we made

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in our conditions. Uh to Jeff's point,

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he asked, hey, what if there was some

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requirement for mutual, excuse me, for

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equipment for some of these volunteer

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fire departments? It's been not

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identified what that would be, but we

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said, "Look, yeah, we're happy to sit

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down and upon mutual agreement, we'll

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get you that additional equipment." So,

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what I did, uh, and then there was a

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request from one of the volunteer fire

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departments, I'm not sure which one, to

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have a, uh, water tank on site, which we

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did. Uh, we're going to do 25,000

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gallons, which they said would be

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satisfactory to them.

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>> So then what I did uh and then just one

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last recap and then I'll summarize it. I

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then took notes on what Tone Mr. O

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excuse me requested when he went through

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the conditions last meeting

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specifically

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there was references to the emergency

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responder training basically saying that

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if they request it we will provide it.

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He wanted it to be we are going to do it

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unless they defer. We modified the

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condition to uh provide for that. Uh Mr.

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Os then said, "Hey, can you remove out

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the limitation that you're going to

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remove facilities only up to a 3-foot

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depth on decommissioning?" We said,

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"That's fine." So, we took out that

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limitation, so we'll just take out all

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facilities.

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about if there was a request for the

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equipment. So, what I then sent Mr. pull

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in was our redlinined conditions which

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I'm not going to go through but

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condition 10 put IFC 2024 condition 14

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put the provision that we are going to

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provide annual training including

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materials unless they defer

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um item 20 we revised the three-foot

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limitation on the decommissioning

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uh there was a duplicate of doing yearly

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EMS training so we struck that it just

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repeated itself we and added cuz I think

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this was request if we can periodically

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meet with the local fire departments to

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discuss their needs. We added that and

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then we specifically added the 25,000

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25,000galon tank. Um so basically what

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we would do tonight is just request um

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that if you would entertain approving

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the petition, it would be approved

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conditioned upon these revised

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conditions. So um I don't know what you

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guys would like to do, but I did still

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bring the team here. Pedro's here.

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join us remotely. You must just need to

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cool off up here.

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>> He couldn't miss it. He

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>> in the Midwest.

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>> He couldn't miss it. So, I'm available

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for questions, but that's a summary of

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where we are.

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>> All right, board. So, public comment um

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remmonstrance is closed. So, I think if

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we have any wrap-up questions, then we

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should move to a vote.

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>> Just got a question about this water

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tank. So, in the winter, is it going to

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be a frozen pond or is this is it a a

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heated tank and it's all

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>> We on the team know about the tank.

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reason.

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>> Thank you.

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>> The trip good evening everyone. Uh it's

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nice to be back. Uh yes, to answer your

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question. So when we go through the

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design process and the application

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process for the water tank um it'll take

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into account uh the location and the

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need for u for any type of liner or

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heating to ensure that the water stays

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uh within the the the temperature that

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is supposed to. There's a water level,

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there's a temperature level as well. So

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and all of that will be monitored

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through that uh uh

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fire control panel, the main fire

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control panel, and we'll have visibility

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into that all the time.

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So they were just asking for that to be

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able to pump water if there was an

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>> So yes, so the uh the water tank will be

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there for let's say brush fires um uh

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structural you know if you need to cool

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off uh certain units things like that

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and most importantly for their use as

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they see fit as well. So it's not

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necessarily just for the site for

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whatever need is on the site but if they

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need to uh you know quickly access some

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water they have the water available to

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them as well.

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>> Okay. Thank you. Yes, sir.

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>> Pedro, you can stay there. Don't mind.

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>> I brought up about toxic gases last time

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and you said they will release no toxic

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gases.

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testing that uh it goes through the UL

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9540 also referred to a large scale fire

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testing. Um, it lists the composition of

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the uh of gasing right. So there is some

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gases uh carbon monoxide, carbon

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dioxide, let's see if I recall like

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right off the top of my head um carbon

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monoxide dioxide hydrogen and I believe

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methane and between those four it it's

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basically about 98%

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or the other two 3% are you know uh

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other hydro hydrocarbons. Um now the

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concern about um those gases hitting a

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certain area there is none because of

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the type of gas and also the um the

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amount if if you will because it is a

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constant we talked about uh in the wor

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in a worst case scenario in the

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likelihood uh unlikely event that

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something does happen it will be

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isolated to one unit. So then you don't

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have that uh big concern about let's say

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the whole site you know having this

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tremendous issue and having to deal with

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plume and gases and all things like

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that. So it it's isolated it is minimal

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and there has been no concerns or no

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reportable uh quantities at let's say

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100 ft that would be a concern for you

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know uh emergency services personnel and

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obviously we won't have any type of uh

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homes or structures within that 100 ft

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anyhow. The only reason I bring it up is

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I was read through the first book that

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you gave us that we got from you guys

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and it says gases released from best

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during thermal runaway are highly

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flammable and toxic.

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>> Okay. You're looking

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>> highly flammable and toxic.

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>> Yes. So you're looking at the ESRP,

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correct?

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>> Yes.

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>> Okay. So the ESRP as as I believe I

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don't remember if I mentioned it last

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time I I'm pretty sure I mentioned

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somewhere else. Um the the goal of the

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ESRP is to name out and call out all

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possible um issues within a site and it

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is not necessarily for that specific

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technology. It's talking about let's say

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uh lithium as a whole. So like there

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could be a possibility. However, when we

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do the more specific testing that UL

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9540, that's when we are able to find

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out exactly what the offging composition

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is and then from there we take measures

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either saying this is not a technology

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that we want to use or we may implement

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uh some other mitigating measures. But

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the ESRP again just to highlight it's um

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it it covers all possible and potential

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issues as well as how to address them in

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a worst case scenario. So it's not

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necessarily this is what you have on

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site. It's more so u these are the worst

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case type of scenarios in a general uh

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um sense.

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>> Thank you.

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for reading that document. Um

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did you did you tell us about a

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containment

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uh area around this battery place in

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case they did use water and in case we

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did get contaminants?

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Um

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>> how big would that be?

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>> I believe the conversation around that

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was that the industry standard and um

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the approach adopted everywhere is to

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never uh put any water on a container

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because it does more damage than any

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type of uh good. So at no point will the

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emergency services personnel put any any

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water directly on a container having an

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event. So therefore eliminating that

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specific concern within the uh best

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container itself there is a secondary

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containment unit for anything inside

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like you know for cooling or anything

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like that but that is again it's it's

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within the uh the best container and it

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is you know basically self sustained um

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again no no through the process and the

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testing there is no indication that

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there's any type of issues as far as

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like how do we contain certain things

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because we don't just

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>> necessarily uh uh hose them down with you know thousands and thousands of

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gallons of water.

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>> I know that there was a conversation

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about

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>> maybe a retention point, detention pond,

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but I don't uh

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>> I think we talked about no vegetation

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around the containers and a perimeter

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around it and that the if there was an

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ignition or

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>> um that it would basically burn itself

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out and that's why the the firemen are

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there at 100 ft. That that is correct.

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In a again unlikely scenario, u the

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approach is to let the unit self-

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consume. Uh it'll consume itself.

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Isolated events. Uh defensive posture

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for the emergency services personnel.

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» So in a in an event like if water were

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to get on it during a thermal runaway,

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>> I'm sorry, say that again.

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>> If water were to get on it during a

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thermal runaway, Sure.

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what are the chances of any kind of

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pollution?

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>> Okay, so the the

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first the likelihood of an event

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happening is extremely small. Um if you

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add uh the likelihood of someone going

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rogue and just starting uh to put water

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uh on on a unit, that's also again kind

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of makes it more unlikely.

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if they do decide to put it uh these

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units are are are sealed. Um sorry.

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Yeah. So these units are are are sealed,

386
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right? So like the water the reason why

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we don't put down water like that is

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because it is it is very hard for water

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to get into the unit itself because it

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is uh IP is ingress protection. There is

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uh it's it's built so you don't have

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stuff going into the unit. the points of

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failure, if you will, uh were the uh

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deflogration panels. I think we

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mentioned that the this pressure relief

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panels, those would be the areas where

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water would get in. Uh again, if you

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couple that the unlikely hood of of an

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event, the unlikely scenario of somebody

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putting water and then the water having

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to go into that small um area where the

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panels are at. Again, it it's uh it kind

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of compounds the the unlikelyhood of

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something like that getting into it. Um

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so so yeah so that's why we don't have

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any type of um concern for that

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particular risk

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>> and I wasn't I was not going after

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somebody putting water on but there is

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mother nature that it could be in the

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event of a huge huge storm and you can't

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control water getting on it then

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>> that's very true sir I think in that

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event we we go back into the the areas

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or the sections of the relief panels

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which be the area where um the fail

417
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points will be and that would be the

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area would water would be accessible

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able into the container itself. Um and

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again having that sort of storm and

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having an event at the same time it it

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kind of um makes uh the likelihood a

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little bit less and and I think uh

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that's why it is not necessarily a big

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concern because one uh situation not

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happening two having uh you know storm

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in that of that manner uh at the same

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time and three the areas for uh the

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areas where water would potentially get

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into the containers and the battery

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units themselves they are sealed um as

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well the battery uh modules.

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>> Thank you.

434
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>> Yes sir.

435
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>> Mr. Novak I have a quick question. So

436
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we talked about

437
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last time about asking the appropriate

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departments and all those and then you

439
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did compile that list and sent those

440
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back. So um you said you're making the

441
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changes that we'd asked for. Is that

442
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part of those changes with an updated

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staff list and all those things? So if

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there is a emergency, they know how many

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people are working that day or is there

446
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a security guard check or is anybody on

447
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site 24/7 or how does that work?

448
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>> Xbox and

449
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>> remote monitoring. The concern from the

450
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EM EMS department was if they're going

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there to save someone, they want to know

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if there's someone there or if there's

453
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three people there or

454
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>> Yes. Kay,

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>> somebody on is somebody on staff all

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time or that's my question. Sorry.

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>> Yeah, Kayleie Samson 353 North Clark,

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Chicago, Illinois. Um yes, there will be

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some there are people on site during um

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work hours. So, we would have four to

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six technicians in an on&m building. Um

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the on andm building would not be cited

463
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directly adjacent to the battery but it

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would be it would be a shared on andm

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building between the solar and the bus.

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Um that site and uh also at all gate

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entrances. I believe this is in the

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findings of fact for the solar project

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and would be true here as well. We would

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list um emergency contacts. Um, we have

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stated in our emergency response plan, I

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believe that, um, we would have on-site

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personnel or personnel on site within

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um, 30 to 60 minutes of any event

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occurring. Um, and when I spoke to the

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911 department, um, they did emphasize

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that they would appreciate updated lists

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of uh, emergency contacts every year.

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So, um, we will do that as well. But

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there will be signs um, at the entrances

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with um, emergency numbers.

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>> I I get that part. I think they're more

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asking who's going to be on site at any

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given moment. So that way if there is a

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big brush fire, if there is a big this

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or that, they want to know how many

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people or any people are on that site if

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they have to save them or

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>> um

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>> they just want an updated list, I guess,

491
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from my my

492
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interpretation of that. An employ an

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updated employee list if there's two

494
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people on a shift or whatever.

495
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>> Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. So um so the

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operations team uh they have a site

497
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operations manager. So he will have

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control of uh who is in during normal

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working hours as well as who is uh on

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call or shift during off working hours.

501
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So that point of contact will be

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available to the emergency services at at at any time one phone call they

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would know exactly who is supposed to be

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uh on site at any given time.

505
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>> Okay. Thank you.

506
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>> Yes sir.

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I think that was the only real two asked

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that they asked. Couple different

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department heads asked that same thing.

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So

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I the only question I had was um and I

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appreciate that you listened and there's

513
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several revisions in here that were made

514
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based on the comments from the board. Um

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the sound issue there's a sound study.

516
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It does identify potential some some

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need for some mitigation. I but it also

518
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does recognize what the limits are. I

519
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assume depending on the final study,

520
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whatever mitigations required to meet

521
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the standards from the county will be

522
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made. I just want to make sure. I mean

523
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>> that's correct. Okay.

524
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>> Yes. Uh so we have since finalized that

525
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sound study. Um I apologize did not

526
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provide it but um it's much the same

527
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results. Um so there will be their sound

528
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wall and or um uh their noise dampeners

529
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that you can purchase for the best

530
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equipment um which would also bring us

531
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under the limit.

532
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>> Okay, that was the only question I had.

533
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Thanks.

534
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>> Thank you.

535
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>> All right, so if that's it from the

536
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board, I'll entertain a motion.

537
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Um, I will make a motion uh

538
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that we grant the special exception for

539
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a 55 megawatt 220 megawatt hour best

540
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facility based on the conditions as

541
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outlined in this document. I'm not sure

542
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attorney volts how to best enumerate

543
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that, but I believe this is version 10.

544
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It's noted on the bottom that was

545
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,280
submitted to us.

546
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,679
um

547
00:21:25,679 --> 00:21:28,320
and that the application meets the

548
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,679
requirements of a special exception

549
00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:34,549
under the JZU.

550
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:35,840
Okay, I have a motion. Do I have a

551
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:42,310
second?

552
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,590
I can step down and second the motion.

553
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,000
I second.

554
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,320
Okay. Motion and a second to approve.

555
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,320
All those in favor say I.

556
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,240
>> I.

557
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,159
>> Those opposed, same sign.

558
00:21:58,159 --> 00:21:59,280
>> I.

559
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,400
>> Okay. And motion passes three to two.

560
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,520
>> Good luck.

561
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,440
>> Okay. Petition number two this evening

562
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,039
is a petition for variance of

563
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,120
developmental standards and petition for

564
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,440
variance of use for Cindy McCain for

565
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,520
converting four grain bins into a guest

566
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,400
home and a sewing retreat. All grain

567
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240
bins will be connected by a breezeway,

568
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,080
radiant floor heat, kitchenet, and

569
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,840
bathroom. And there will be a roof to

570
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,480
tie them in. Property is located at 0626

571
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,919
North, 250 East Leaport, Cany Township,

572
00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:35,280
Zoned R1B on 5 acres. And I will need a

573
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,799
motion to remove this one from the

574
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,120
table.

575
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:40,400
>> Make a motion to remove it from the

576
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,440
table.

577
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,159
>> Second.

578
00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:45,280
>> All those in favor? I

579
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,919
>> Okay.

580
00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:59,029
We'll see if your legal work is okay.

581
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:00,799
» Madame President, in that this matter

582
00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,200
was tabled from August 15th, 2026.

583
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,360
Notice was adequate as of that date. So

584
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,799
therefore, notice is adequate for

585
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,799
today's petition to be heard.

586
00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:10,880
>> Okay. Thank you. If you would state your

587
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,880
name and address for the record. Cindy

588
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,240
McCain, 626 North 250 East Leaport,

589
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,679
Indiana.

590
00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:20,000
>> Okay. Cindy, what talk to us a little

591
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,120
bit more in detail about what your your

592
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,679
plans are with this the three grain bins

593
00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:27,360
>> there. There are four there.

594
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:27,919
>> Okay.

595
00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:31,440
>> And I they are sitting on my property as

596
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,120
we speak because I had to move them. my

597
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:38,640
aunt. Um I got them from my aunt and she

598
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,240
has since passed and her estate is now

599
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,000
I'm getting that settled. But um

600
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,480
I wanted to put some of her belongings

601
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,880
in that uh in the grain bins and make it

602
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,159
just a place for my family to hang out

603
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:57,679
and

604
00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:01,200
do crafts. So whatever

605
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080
it it's a playhouse. So, you won't be

606
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,440
renting space at all?

607
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,400
>> Oh, no. No.

608
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,000
>> For family use only?

609
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,640
>> Yeah.

610
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,640
>> And no living space?

611
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,240
>> No. I mean, I guess you could probably

612
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,919
live there if you wanted, but I don't

613
00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:16,400
want No, I don't want people living

614
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,039
there.

615
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,360
>> Okay. It We can put a restriction on it

616
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,000
if we decide to approve it. That is

617
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,840
something that we could restrict. That's

618
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,200
fine. As long as you're good with that,

619
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,120
>> that's fine. My grandkids are going to

620
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,080
want to spend the night in it.

621
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,000
>> Let's see if we have any remmonstrators

622
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,679
tonight. Anybody for or against your

623
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,080
petition? Anybody against petition

624
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:42,950
number two or for petition number two?

625
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,080
Anybody or against petition number two?

626
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,720
Okay. Hearing and seeing none, what

627
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,027
questions do we have as a board?

628
00:24:56,037 --> 00:24:56,480
[clears throat]

629
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,360
>> Go ahead, Tony. I are these on these are

630
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,360
the only things on that land

631
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,240
>> that I I just bought I built a home

632
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,480
there two years ago.

633
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,760
>> All right. I was looking

634
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,960
>> there's actually um there's actually 13

635
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520
acres there that I own.

636
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,080
>> Um

637
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,279
it was the I had the first five acres

638
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:22,400
and then in the last what year and a

639
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,520
half, two years I bought seven more.

640
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,039
And you kind of have it up in that

641
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:30,320
northeast.

642
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
>> Yes. Yeah. The house is backed by the

643
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,440
>> section on the Yeah.

644
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,360
>> Yeah. It's a It's a barnaminium is what

645
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:41,110
I built back then.

646
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,039
» Tony, it's like in this corner.

647
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:49,110
>> Mhm.

648
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,400
» What's What's the condition of these

649
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,159
bins? I'm actually familiar with these

650
00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:55,039
bins. How are they like to make a home

651
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,640
out of them? Are they structurally sound

652
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,159
enough to do that?

653
00:25:58,159 --> 00:25:59,600
>> We picked them up with the crane and

654
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,760
moved them over together.

655
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,480
>> Um, I think so.

656
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,960
>> Okay.

657
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,960
>> Yeah,

658
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,559
they're they're older.

659
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,400
>> Well, I know the bottoms were all rotted

660
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,840
out and all that, which a lot of grain

661
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,600
bins do. Yeah, I I um for my business,

662
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,960
we do non-destructive testing and I I

663
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000
did ultrasonics around

664
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,240
the part that to get rid of the bad

665
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,520
parts. I

666
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,360
>> I tested the where we needed to fussy

667
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,400
cut them to cut them.

668
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,360
>> Gotcha.

669
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,390
>> Yeah.

670
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,080
Interesting.

671
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,320
What about you guys?

672
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,919
>> Mhm.

673
00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:44,559
I mean, and again, I we're kind of the

674
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,799
first step of this process, right?

675
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,240
You're going to need to work with the

676
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,640
building department if we approve this.

677
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Um, their building standards are going

678
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,559
to have to be met.

679
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,200
>> Absolutely. I I I want them to help me.

680
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,080
>> Yeah, absolutely.

681
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,440
>> Yeah.

682
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320
>> Absolutely.

683
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,840
>> But your plan is to have from the

684
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,360
diagrams we have, your plan is to have

685
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,360
plumbing out here. Is that correct? I

686
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,799
want plumbing and a and u Yeah, I want a

687
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,600
bathroom in there. Yes, absolutely.

688
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:24,390
>> And water. I

689
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760
It's honestly an art project for me what

690
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,909
it is.

691
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:33,520
» What would you do with these green bins

692
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,039
if we did not approve this permit?

693
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:38,960
I would cry a lot. They belong to my

694
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600
aunt and uncle and they're both gone. I

695
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,110
don't know. I don't know.

696
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,799
I had I I was in a situation with her

697
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,600
illness and

698
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,960
the weather and my son said, "Mom, I'll

699
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,389
move them for you." And he did.

700
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:05,279
Okay.

701
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:09,200
So, we kind of have the two the variance

702
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,440
of use and the variance of developmental

703
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,159
standards when you're making a motion to

704
00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:57,190
make sure that we address both of those.

705
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:18,950
Let's do both.

706
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080
I'm I'm I'm a bit challenged and and and

707
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,399
not because I don't understand what

708
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:26,960
you're trying to do, but um part of what

709
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,480
we have to understand is if there's

710
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,480
something unique going on about the

711
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,960
property or what you're trying to do

712
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,279
that's

713
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,279
for us to grant a developmental variance

714
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,120
that and that's just part of the

715
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360
standards we have to go by um a use

716
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,919
variance.

717
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:47,909
Um

718
00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:49,279
you know, we have to demonstrate some

719
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,240
sort of hardship for a use variance. Um

720
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,000
that's where I'm struggling and that's

721
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
just that's not my opinion. That's kind

722
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440
of the way that I the rules we have to

723
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,320
follow. Um is there anything

724
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880
unique about that property or about

725
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
these bins other than obviously the the

726
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,720
personal connection to what you're what

727
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,039
you're trying to do? It's I mean this is

728
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:12,720
essentially an accessory structure but

729
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880
then the the developmental

730
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,360
>> right

731
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,640
>> where's the I'm trying to remember what

732
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,039
the use

733
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:22,799
Mike what's what's driving the use

734
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,679
variance just so I'm clear

735
00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:26,960
remember what section we're talking

736
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
about here that drives the use variance

737
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,279
per se

738
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:30,640
>> yeah I

739
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,720
>> I if I recall correctly upon speaking

740
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,000
with the petitioner it was going to be a

741
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,159
sewing or something retreat.

742
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:41,360
>> Yeah. And I think we've cleared that

743
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,960
part up, right? So there's no I think

744
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,720
the retreat thing I think threw us all

745
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,320
for a loop. I I understood it the same

746
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,320
way as you that So I don't know that

747
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,799
because there's no rental and it's not

748
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,120
being used. It's a personal use item.

749
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,520
>> Correct.

750
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,039
>> Then maybe that use variance isn't we're

751
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,320
looking more at just developmental

752
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,840
standards variance. Okay.

753
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,240
>> Agreed.

754
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,760
>> And that would definitely help.

755
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,320
>> Yes. Yeah,

756
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,200
>> it would definitely help. And so there's

757
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760
>> I have several people in my family that

758
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,440
like to sew and it's just it would be a

759
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760
great place for us to bring our sewing

760
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,520
machines and sit and

761
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,440
>> so for you know

762
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,520
>> No, I complet I appreciate I appreciate

763
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,836
what you're trying to do. I get it.

764
00:31:21,836 --> 00:31:29,909
>> [clears throat]

765
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,159
» But I have a I have a business right now

766
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:34,480
and I don't want another one. So, no,

767
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:46,310
I'm not doing that.

768
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,559
Madame President, as a point of order,

769
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:50,720
the petition before you is for all

770
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,799
intents and purposes two petitions. It's

771
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,720
for two different variances. One is for

772
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,240
a variance of developmental standards

773
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,799
and one is for a variance of use. If you

774
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:00,799
determine, if the board were to

775
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,200
determine that one of those variances is

776
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600
inapplicable, there does not need to be

777
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,600
a vote on both in right

778
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,679
>> in in in a manner in which both are

779
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:12,159
either approved or denied. It would

780
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:14,240
simply be that you would make a motion

781
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840
to approve or a motion to deny

782
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,360
>> either one. It it they don't have to go

783
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,080
conjunctively or concurrently.

784
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960
Um, and I think Mr. Grass's point is

785
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,279
well taken that

786
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,799
>> it it there is a bit of an overlap but

787
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,080
then the petitioner has indicated that

788
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,960
>> as far as for a use variance that

789
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,200
technically is not there based upon the

790
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,950
manner in which the property is zoned.

791
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:56,789
» Thank you. If that clears anything up

792
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,630
now,

793
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:10,070
» yes, just the developmental standards.

794
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,000
We have this awkward silence right now

795
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,600
because everyone's trying to figure out

796
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,559
how to word what they're they're going

797
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,840
to uh pose.

798
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:30,789
They want to do it very carefully.

799
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,389
» Um

800
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:36,000
» are you prepared to entertain a motion?

801
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320
>> I am absolutely prepared to entertain a

802
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,029
motion. Um,

803
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,480
I'm not going to enumerate the section

804
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,679
because I don't remember which ones it

805
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:48,559
was going to be, but I um

806
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,200
I will make a motion to grant uh the

807
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,720
developmental standards variance that

808
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,799
would apply to uh the accessory

809
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,679
structure and to the use the addition of

810
00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:01,360
plumbing only as outlined on this sketch

811
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,919
um that was provided.

812
00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:06,159
um

813
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:09,599
based on um meeting the criteria for a

814
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:10,960
developmental standards variance

815
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:19,349
specifically. Um that um

816
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,839
by granting this uh we're granting the u

817
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:24,399
appropriate the necessary preservation

818
00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:26,320
of of enjoyment of your property similar

819
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,839
to those uh properties around you. Um

820
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:34,399
>> uh would you like to include any

821
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:35,839
constraints as to

822
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:37,919
>> uh yes I think that based based on the

823
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:39,040
fact that we're not granting the use

824
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,119
variance there's no rental allowed of

825
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,879
the you can't rent it to anyone. It's

826
00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:44,399
not going to be used as a residence and

827
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,079
a permanent residence or rental at this

828
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:46,320
time.

829
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
>> No.

830
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,159
Okay.

831
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,480
Good job.

832
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,960
>> Thank you.

833
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,240
>> Okay.

834
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,679
>> Do we have second?

835
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,880
>> Okay. I have a motion and a second.

836
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040
All those in favor say I.

837
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,640
>> I I.

838
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,839
>> Those opposed, same sign.

839
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:07,520
Good luck. I'm interested to see how

840
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,160
they turn out.

841
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,960
>> Come out and see.

842
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,160
>> Make sure you work with the building

843
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,720
department.

844
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:11,920
>> I I will. [clears throat]

845
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,720
>> Thank you.

846
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,119
All right. Petition number

847
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:16,800
three this evening, as I stated, has

848
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,280
been tabled until the October meeting.

849
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,480
Petition number four is a petition for

850
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,400
variance of developmental standards for

851
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Anthony and Heather Schingler for three

852
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040
accessory structures. Two in the rear of

853
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,800
the house and the third structure to the

854
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,079
side 10 x 20, 10 x 12, 12x 24. The

855
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,280
property is located at 7725 West Art

856
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Court Leaport, Cool Spring Township,

857
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,800
zoned R1A.

858
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,079
Let's make sure your legal work is okay.

859
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:57,990
>> [clears throat]

860
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
» Madame President, notice is adequate.

861
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,839
>> Great. Thank you. If you would please

862
00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:03,280
state your name and address for the

863
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,839
record.

864
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:07,119
>> Anthony Shingler, 7725 West Art Court,

865
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,119
Port Indiana.

866
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,200
>> Anthony, this is a lot of accessory

867
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,960
structures all at once. What do What do

868
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,599
we need? all the

869
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:17,520
>> We had just moved here in December.

870
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,079
>> Okay.

871
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:19,359
>> Porter County.

872
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:20,960
>> So, we got in this new house. There's

873
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,400
not enough storage in it

874
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:22,880
>> ever

875
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,200
>> compared to our other house. So, we had

876
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,240
nowhere to put the lawnmowers.

877
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,480
Everything's crampacked in our garage.

878
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800
So, we bought the one shed. These are

879
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,359
all pre pre-manufactured sheds. We

880
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:34,880
bought one shed and we put the

881
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,200
lawnmowers in it. I have two of them.

882
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,880
One's a big 65 in and a 48 in. So, that

883
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,040
took care of the little shed. And then

884
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,000
we bought the 10 by 20 to put in for

885
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,920
storage.

886
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,680
>> So, are they already on your site?

887
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,440
>> Yes. Yes, they are. I was unaware that

888
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,960
we had to have a permit for uh

889
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,079
pre-manufactured building

890
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,000
>> for the variance. Yeah.

891
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,920
>> And then I was also unaware that you can

892
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,839
only have one accessory building and we

893
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:02,880
actually have two.

894
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,800
>> Well, you're going to have three.

895
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,800
>> Well, we have a shed, an accessory, and

896
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,880
then one more accessory.

897
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,640
>> So, I think you're allowed one accessory

898
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,040
shed.

899
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680
>> You are. Okay. So then we actually have

900
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,359
an extra just one extra.

901
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:17,839
>> So do we have some unhappy neighbors? Is

902
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:18,800
that what

903
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,839
>> everybody is fine with it?

904
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:21,599
>> Are there any remmonstrators tonight for

905
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,920
this petition? Anybody in favor or

906
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,109
against it?

907
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,680
Anybody in favor or against petition

908
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,491
number four?

909
00:37:36,501 --> 00:37:38,880
[clears throat] Okay. Seeing no

910
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,960
remmonstrators. Have you talked to your

911
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,760
neighbors?

912
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,800
>> I've talked to all of them. Yeah.

913
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,079
>> They're all Are they all in the same

914
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,400
situation? There's too much stuff,

915
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,160
>> right? And then they're waiting to see

916
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,839
what happens with me because they want

917
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:52,000
put some sheds in, too. Like [laughter]

918
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,599
this is how you do it.

919
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:54,079
>> Perfect.

920
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,200
>> I like I like I don't know. One big one

921
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,520
feels better to me. But let's see what

922
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,800
the board question what kind of

923
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,240
questions we have. Um

924
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,119
Ernie, do you have a question?

925
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,520
Why don't you put up one large structure

926
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,280
instead of three small?

927
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,560
>> Well, because we already have them for

928
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,280
one. And then for two, uh, we keep the

929
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,040
lawnmowers and the other storage stuff

930
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,560
in the very back. And then the front

931
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,640
one, I want to put electric in it. No

932
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560
plumbing, just electric for like a

933
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:30,550
workshop.

934
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,839
» Eric, what about you?

935
00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:34,320
>> Nothing from the pictures. A big a big

936
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:44,150
one. Oh, that's a little hard, too.

937
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,320
» Okay. So, we're going to go quiet again.

938
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160
And I assure you, it's just we're trying

939
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,760
to word our statements correctly.

940
00:38:51,760 --> 00:39:02,230
>> Okay.

941
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,510
for

942
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,480
the front one.

943
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,480
>> Yeah.

944
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,480
>> We got these two

945
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,599
>> and this one.

946
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,520
>> So, he wants this one so we can have a

947
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,240
look.

948
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,750
>> Yeah.

949
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,240
» Well, I can already see crazy. You need

950
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,680
bigger buildings.

951
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,160
>> Excuse me.

952
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,359
>> You're going to go storage. You got to

953
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:30,150
go big.

954
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,079
It's It's the cost of these buildings,

955
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:32,560
you know.

956
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,320
>> I'm looking at these that would never do

957
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,119
at my house. I don't have any either,

958
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,560
though.

959
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,920
>> Well, they did allow us to paint the

960
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,680
front one. So, now it's it's all been

961
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,640
taken care of, but

962
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,440
>> very good. I think

963
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,320
>> while we were waiting,

964
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640
>> I think it does

965
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:55,109
look nice.

966
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:56,640
I I already told me he's going to do it,

967
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,240
but I will make a motion to approve this

968
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:04,160
um off the fact that you have

969
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,599
I feel you have proven the use and need

970
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,920
for these structures on your property

971
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,599
and I appreciate the fact that they are

972
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,200
painted and matched and look very

973
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,000
presentable.

974
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,400
>> I can clear that. Yeah.

975
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:18,720
>> Okay,

976
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:19,760
>> I'll second that.

977
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,839
>> I have a motion and a second to approve.

978
00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:23,760
All those in favor say I.

979
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,240
>> I.

980
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,160
Those opposed, same sign.

981
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,200
>> I.

982
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,680
>> Okay. It's going to pass three to two.

983
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,760
And tell your neighbors you'd rather,

984
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,800
you know, one larger structure,

985
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,640
>> not in front of the house

986
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
>> to come see the building commissioner.

987
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,839
>> Thank you.

988
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:42,079
>> All right. Thank you.

989
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,720
Petition number five this evening is a

990
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:46,960
petition of ver pardon me of

991
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,040
developmental standards for the

992
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,720
McDermads for a 15 ft front setback

993
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,359
instead of the minimum required 25 ft.

994
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:58,240
The property is at 137 Judson Road

995
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:02,240
Leaport Center Township zone R1B

996
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:08,550
petition number five. Are you here?

997
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,400
Okay,

998
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,920
I'm going to move them down to the

999
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,680
bottom. If everybody's okay with that,

1000
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,280
we'll hear petition number six and then

1001
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,160
we'll um see if they're back. So,

1002
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,560
petition number six is a petition for

1003
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,319
special exception for Kingsbury

1004
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,880
Investments and Envirro Recycling for

1005
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200
the operation of recycling facility and

1006
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,800
biochar operation plastics to diesel.

1007
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,760
The property is located at 6417 South

1008
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,960
Third Line Road in Kingsbury Ordinance

1009
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,079
Plant, Washington Township on two

1010
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:46,550
parcels, 21.392

1011
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:58,069
acres.

1012
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:01,040
you.

1013
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:07,670
>> Yeah, Jeff.

1014
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:15,750
» Thank you.

1015
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,599
» Madam President. Notice is adequate.

1016
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:24,710
>> Great. Thank you.

1017
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:30,589
» He thought he was safe, huh?

1018
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:47,430
» [laughter]

1019
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,510
» Yeah,

1020
00:42:51,520 --> 00:43:39,990
different.

1021
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,680
Give us a moment to review the

1022
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000
information you guys have provided.

1023
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,280
>> If you would state your name and address

1024
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,440
for the record.

1025
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,820
>> Sure.

1026
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:54,079
[clears throat] I represent enviral

1027
00:43:54,079 --> 00:44:00,870
recycling and my name is Jim Ventura

1028
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,800
like

1029
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,480
okay

1030
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,560
Jim I I'm going to need you to explain

1031
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,680
this to me like

1032
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,280
in detail because I when I started to go

1033
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,520
through this packet before I'm confused

1034
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,839
by this this one that identifies some

1035
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:20,880
sites

1036
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,359
But I can't really get my head around

1037
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:24,960
where they're going to go.

1038
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,520
>> Okay.

1039
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,800
>> What's going where? And

1040
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,119
>> the the packet that you just received is

1041
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,760
the same one that you had two weeks ago,

1042
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,240
>> right?

1043
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,160
>> Nothing different. We just got some

1044
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,319
support letters on the back of the

1045
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:38,800
package. And the reason that we handed

1046
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,560
it out is this time, you know, we

1047
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,000
numbered every page so you could follow

1048
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,599
my presentation.

1049
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:46,560
>> Thank you.

1050
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,359
>> That was for clarity.

1051
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:52,720
So uh again we are enviral recycling and

1052
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:56,480
we are requesting a special exception

1053
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,760
use variants to develop an enviral

1054
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,240
recycling campus a state-of-the-art

1055
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,720
integrated waste processing and green

1056
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:09,920
energy campus to be located at 6419

1057
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,280
D line road at the Kingsbury Industrial

1058
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,240
Parks M2 heavy industrial district. The

1059
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,160
project represents a multi-million

1060
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,200
dollar private infrastructure investment

1061
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,800
in Leaport County that aligns perfectly

1062
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,040
with industrial parks heavy

1063
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,319
manufacturing district while introducing

1064
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:36,480
clean green technology. A paradigm shift

1065
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,040
in waste management moving away from the

1066
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,200
traditional landfilling toward a

1067
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,560
circular economy. Extracting maximum

1068
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,119
value from municipal, industrial and

1069
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,000
agricultural waist streams. The campus

1070
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,960
will position Leaport County as the

1071
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,720
leader in the regional sustability while

1072
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,200
generating significant local tax revenue

1073
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,200
and creating over 100 construction and

1074
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,240
155 permanent highquality jobs for our

1075
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:13,670
local residents.

1076
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Slide three. Who is Enviral Recycling?

1077
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,160
We are company that brings a team with

1078
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,400
over 20 years of experience in design,

1079
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,640
engineering, construction, management,

1080
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,920
and operation of municipal facilities

1081
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,589
and includes local owners.

1082
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,240
Page four is the one that you want a

1083
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,800
clarity. The reason I put this in there

1084
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,119
is because I wanted to show the board

1085
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:44,400
where Hup Roads was at

1086
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,920
and where Central was at. We are on

1087
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,560
third line road. You can see the yellow.

1088
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,520
It's marked 3A, 3B, and two. Now, we

1089
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,640
used to be on number six on Fifth Line

1090
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,800
Road. We previously have an active

1091
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,040
actually variance approval for a

1092
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,440
material recovery facility. The reason

1093
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,079
we move from fifth to third was because

1094
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,480
third is actually well paved. We have

1095
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,680
better access and it's better to create

1096
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,920
a campus atmosphere for what we want to

1097
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,560
do. So there were all the amenities and

1098
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,319
plus the utilities are in the three

1099
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:28,160
parcels that we're looking at. You have

1100
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,000
utilities there. Before we had to bring

1101
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,760
utilities 1,000 ft, 2,000 ft.

1102
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,960
>> And that's really the only reason you

1103
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,720
guys are here is because you're moving

1104
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,560
from Fifth Line Road to

1105
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,359
>> Fifth Lane to Third, but we're adding

1106
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:40,319
two more

1107
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:40,720
>> Yeah.

1108
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:41,920
>> two more businesses. Okay.

1109
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,920
>> And that's really it could be I don't

1110
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,040
know if you want to call it an amendment

1111
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:45,520
or

1112
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:45,839
>> Sure.

1113
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:53,109
>> I don't know. I'm not illegal.

1114
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:56,630
» Sorry.

1115
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,920
So what is the enviral recycling campus?

1116
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,720
It'll include a material recovery

1117
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:06,240
facility, a biochar facility, and a

1118
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:09,119
plastics to diesel. The facility will

1119
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:12,880
feature highly uh integrated material

1120
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,839
recovery that specializes processing

1121
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:17,599
lines designed to divert valuable

1122
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,079
materials from landfill.

1123
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,960
We will process municipal solid waste.

1124
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,040
There's no change in the material

1125
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,280
recovery facility. Everything is exact.

1126
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,319
We're going to still process the

1127
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,880
municipal solid waste, the 600 tons like

1128
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,359
we got approved for. We're going to be

1129
00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:36,160
using the uh magnets, screens, and so

1130
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,000
forth. And we're also going to be doing

1131
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,000
the CND 200 tons. Everything from the

1132
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,160
same 75,000t building and so forth.

1133
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,640
We are going to be adding uh again a

1134
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,559
biochar facility and a plastics to

1135
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:55,109
diesel

1136
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:58,559
page six. As you can see a closeup of

1137
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:01,280
the enviral recycling campus site on

1138
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,800
6419 third line road. You can see that

1139
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,079
on the previous I showed you you see 3A

1140
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:10,079
uh that's where the plastics recycling

1141
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:13,520
that's about 5.3 acres. Uh you will see

1142
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,839
3B parcel that'll be the vouchard

1143
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:17,839
facility and then parcel two is the

1144
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:20,559
material recovery facility and you can

1145
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:28,240
see third line road where it goes on the exhibit and also uh you'll see

1146
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:30,240
where there's a road that goes through

1147
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,920
Helina

1148
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,720
company that'll be used road access to

1149
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:41,990
go into the plastics recycling.

1150
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,680
87. Uh again, the um I'm going just

1151
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,160
focus on on the material recovery first.

1152
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Uh we're going to be having a 75,000t

1153
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,920
building, 600 tons of residential, 200

1154
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,119
tons of CND. Uh the recycling equipment

1155
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:58,880
is provided by General Kinetics. They're

1156
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,079
out of Illinois, all USA company. The

1157
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,240
equipment will separate cardboard,

1158
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,359
glass, metals, paper, wood, and plastic.

1159
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:08,800
And and we're going to also receive

1160
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,480
tires, and we're going to recycle them

1161
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,960
into useful end products. The building

1162
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,319
is fully enclosed, 247 security. Outside

1163
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:19,280
will be paved, swept daily. Facility

1164
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,680
will be completely landscaped for a

1165
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000
green campus look. There's going to be

1166
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,240
an educational component also that

1167
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,640
schools will be able to come and see how

1168
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,359
recycling which is a very important part

1169
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:33,599
of the environment is done. We're also

1170
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,440
going to be giving out scholarships and

1171
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,910
so forth.

1172
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
I have a diagram of the enviral

1173
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,720
recycling material recovery facility. As

1174
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,720
you can see, uh we have a line for the

1175
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:50,559
MSW and we also have a line for the CND.

1176
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,240
I'm not going to get real real detail,

1177
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,440
but I'll touch on it. Uh the material uh

1178
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,040
will come in on the tipping floor as you

1179
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,800
see where it says receiving tipping.

1180
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,400
Then it'll go on an incline uh conveyor.

1181
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,319
It'll go through a bag opener for the

1182
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:06,880
plastic bags. And as it moves down the

1183
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,680
conveyor line, uh there'll be uh what we

1184
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,559
call a uh finger screen or shaker screen

1185
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,800
that will shake the material. All the

1186
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,960
small particles fall down. The big stuff

1187
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,880
stay on top. It makes it easier for

1188
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,760
separation. Um then we'll have actually

1189
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,920
a manual sorting line where they will

1190
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,680
take out the paper, plastic and

1191
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,200
cardboards. That's going to be the

1192
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,040
focus. And at the end we're going to

1193
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,520
have either a shredder or we have a bor

1194
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,079
we will bail the the paper, plastic and

1195
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,119
cardboard. We'll bail the plastics also

1196
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,160
and then the wood that we separate uh we

1197
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,440
will put it to the side where we will

1198
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,400
grind it off the CND line. All those

1199
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,119
products will be going to an end user in

1200
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,040
Chicago and it's kept out of the

1201
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,960
landfill. Everything that's left is

1202
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,160
called RDF. Those are the paper that

1203
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,960
cannot go to a paper mill. We will bail

1204
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,599
it and use it a cement killing in

1205
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,200
Chicago. We'll use it as fuel to fire up

1206
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,920
their their facility. So 95% will be de

1207
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,960
uh diverted from the landfill which is

1208
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,079
the state of Indiana wants to do 50%.

1209
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,079
We're doing about 95%.

1210
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:18,720
>> Jim, does that include plastic bags?

1211
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:18,960
>> Yes,

1212
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,400
>> because I know that's one thing that we

1213
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,280
don't uh recycle here locally is yes,

1214
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,480
>> plastic bags can plastic bags also. And

1215
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,119
>> you'll see how this is going to tie in

1216
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:30,319
to the plastic. That's

1217
00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:32,240
>> perfect. I'm sorry I got excited. No,

1218
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,720
>> no, no, no problem.

1219
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,319
I was actually going to stop and say any

1220
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:39,680
questions, but that's the improper form.

1221
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,000
Okay. Again, I'm going to show you the

1222
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,760
picture of the material recovery

1223
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,559
facility that's on parcel two, how it

1224
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:49,280
fits into that parcel. And you see the

1225
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,240
landscaping. So, we want to make this

1226
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,480
look really classy and really look like

1227
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,440
it's not just a recycling. What people

1228
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,000
think of transfer stations dirty and

1229
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
this. No, everything is inside.

1230
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,200
Everything's clean. Uh no odor. Um

1231
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,599
again, state-of-the-art, very well

1232
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,920
landscaped. Uh it's going to be it's

1233
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,480
going to be unbelievable. It is. Uh

1234
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,880
here's a picture of the kind of a 3D

1235
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,160
picture of the material recovery

1236
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,760
facility. As you can see, um the

1237
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,520
landscape again, it looks more like a

1238
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,440
campus. Actually, looks more like a like

1239
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:29,680
a small college. If you look at it, you can't even tell what that is.

1240
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Moving on, uh we are going to have

1241
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,800
signage, typical signage will it will

1242
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,640
have uh on the property on the material

1243
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,720
recovery facility with to tell you that

1244
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,280
we don't accept hazardous material on so

1245
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,079
forth. We're also going to have a spot

1246
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,079
safe spot where the residents could come

1247
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:48,720
in and drop their trash off on Saturday

1248
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:54,069
at a at a at a reduced rate.

1249
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:57,119
Now moving over to the next uh facility

1250
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:59,119
which which is called actually a bow

1251
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:01,760
facility and I think that's on parcel

1252
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,319
3B.

1253
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:06,720
The voucher facility uh we are

1254
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,800
partnering with a company called Pyro

1255
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,599
Nexus out of Fort Worth, Texas. Pyro

1256
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,640
Nexus has been involved with Arty uh

1257
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,720
probably 15 years. They have done

1258
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,760
paralysis units for biochar and they

1259
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,760
have probably 15 of these units all over

1260
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,760
the place. Um we are going to be doing

1261
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,720
uh three units on the site. There are

1262
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,920
closed loop. I have a picture of the

1263
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,599
unit on the next page which is page 13.

1264
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:41,200
As you can see uh the unit itself I'm

1265
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,800
going try to explain it the best as I

1266
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,160
could. Uh the the wood chips will come

1267
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,960
from the material recovery facility.

1268
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,079
Remember I was telling you guys it was

1269
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,599
coming from the wood that we separate

1270
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,200
clean wood. We will chip it to three

1271
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,040
inches and we would take it over to the

1272
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,920
biochar facility. There will be 90 tons

1273
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,960
a day. Three three units and the chips

1274
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,319
will come in and this unit will chip it

1275
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:06,720
to another one in. It'll go through the

1276
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,559
system where it'll be at a 450°ree

1277
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:13,200
uh temperature. It'll turn the wood into

1278
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,960
what they call char into biochar. Um,

1279
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,280
there's a cooling screw in there that

1280
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,543
cools it down and then it's bagged

1281
00:55:21,543 --> 00:55:22,960
[clears throat] in super sacks. As you

1282
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,359
can see in the picture, those sacks are

1283
00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:28,720
actually fireproof. They're 300 lb bags

1284
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,599
and uh once they are sacked, we will

1285
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:34,720
take them into the uh storage unit and

1286
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:39,680
which shows on the next uh uh slide 14.

1287
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,680
It shows actually the the biochar

1288
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,920
facility itself. You can see third line

1289
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,400
road there to the left to the top. We

1290
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,640
have a 10,000 square foot building which

1291
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,280
will have the offices and it'll have the

1292
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,319
storage. The trucks will come in through

1293
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:56,319
the third line road and they'll have two

1294
00:55:56,319 --> 00:55:58,799
different entrances. As you can see, uh

1295
00:55:58,799 --> 00:56:01,119
the trucks back up. They dump the wood

1296
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:03,760
chip pile. We're going to have a carport

1297
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,079
type roof over it so in the winter the

1298
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,160
snow won't wet it, keep it dry. And

1299
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,880
immediately you see the three units they

1300
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,680
once they they produce the biochar and

1301
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,240
they'll put in sacks it will be taken in

1302
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:19,040
the skid steer right to the storage. Uh

1303
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,160
once a week the buyer will pick up the

1304
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,440
biochar. It'll be a truckload. And uh

1305
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,000
this biochar is very very valuable. I

1306
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,440
don't know how much you know. I think

1307
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,799
you have a farmer on your board right? I

1308
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:34,319
don't know which one it is. One of them

1309
00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:35,200
is a farmer

1310
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,160
>> potentially.

1311
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,640
>> Yeah. Oh, okay. Which one is the farmer?

1312
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,200
>> Both of you.

1313
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,040
>> Oh, both. Oh, you both are. So, this is

1314
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,400
something I think very interesting to

1315
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,599
you guys. Um, vouchar is actually 100%

1316
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,680
organic. Talked to a lot of farmers that

1317
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,160
they use the chemicals or nitrogen. Very

1318
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,359
expensive. This will be way reasonable,

1319
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:56,000
maybe like uh one farmer told me it was

1320
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,480
7,000 a ton. I think this would be

1321
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,640
something like 250.

1322
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,880
And uh it's a soil amendment. It

1323
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,480
actually uh helps nutrients. It helps uh stop water from running off. Uh it

1324
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,319
locks in your liquid fertilizers,

1325
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:13,040
nitrogen, phosphorus. Uh prevents

1326
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,160
leeching into local waterheds, minimizes

1327
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,559
fertilizer runoff, and allows a farmer

1328
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:20,240
to get higher crop yields for less

1329
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,200
chemical. There's also a uh program

1330
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,319
called 336 farm bill. I It's a federal

1331
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:28,720
program. Uh and I've talked to the state

1332
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,520
uh Senator Young, which it's approved

1333
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,640
and active. So we're going to meet and

1334
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,640
uh try to work with that program for the

1335
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,960
farmers and it actually pays you guys to

1336
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,839
buy our product.

1337
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:42,160
>> Is there is it high in carbon? What?

1338
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,200
>> Yes.

1339
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,799
>> 75 to 80% carbon content.

1340
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:46,160
>> Okay.

1341
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,240
>> And again that program that program I'm

1342
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,680
talking about at 336 now it's on the

1343
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,680
state level also instead of a federal

1344
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,640
that would that would pay the farmers a

1345
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,440
good good amount of money to take the

1346
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,839
fertilizer. and we're going to target,

1347
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:01,599
you know, the Indiana farmers obviously

1348
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:04,079
maybe lower Michigan. So, this is a

1349
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:06,400
unbelievable project with the product it

1350
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,510
creates.

1351
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,440
Now, I'm going to go to the last one uh

1352
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,720
facility which is a plastics to fuel. Uh

1353
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,559
we are partnering with a company called

1354
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:19,200
Region Fuels out of Jacksonville,

1355
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,559
Florida. Uh they have uh probably in

1356
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:27,359
about 10 different countries uh this

1357
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:29,520
technology and they have one in Puerto

1358
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,880
Rico which is EPA region 2 and they got

1359
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,480
permitted in 2023. They actually got an

1360
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,319
exemption. They didn't even have to get

1361
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:40,160
a permit. That's how little the

1362
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,799
emissions are. they were given a a uh an

1363
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:45,200
exemption and is operating very

1364
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,079
profitable, very good in Puerto Rico for

1365
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,559
the last three years. And uh the

1366
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,640
technology itself comes in modules as

1367
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,480
modular. As you can see the picture, we

1368
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,520
have four powerers. Those are the the big kind of you see kind of the

1369
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,520
tubular type. Uh they each do 10 tons of

1370
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,400
plastic. Uh we're going to be doing 40

1371
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,559
tons per day of the plastics. And those

1372
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:11,280
plastics come from the material recovery

1373
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,119
facility that we separate and we bail

1374
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:16,880
and we take it over to the plastics to

1375
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,599
fuel. So you see how the campus itself

1376
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:21,839
is circulating the products. It's

1377
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:24,079
limiting truck traffic is limiting

1378
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,720
outside traffic from coming in and it's

1379
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,280
creating a bunch a lot of jobs. Uh the

1380
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,960
building is actually a 10,000t building.

1381
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,680
It takes less than an acre. is very

1382
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:41,200
compact and um uh um I could explain

1383
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,920
very briefly how it works. We take the

1384
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,119
plastics 10 tons one unit. It's a big

1385
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:50,319
door. If you see the picture on page 17

1386
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:53,520
uh right here is the paralyzer. It has a

1387
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,119
door. You dump in the plastics and

1388
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:00,559
immediately uh uh the paralysis unit.

1389
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:03,440
It's uh no oxygen. It heats up the melts

1390
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,160
plastic and it turns it into a liquid.

1391
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,760
Once it turns into a liquid, then the

1392
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,839
plastic the liquid obviously is turned

1393
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:14,559
into a gas. And once it's in a gaseous

1394
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,400
state, then now it goes through

1395
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,599
different stages through through

1396
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:19,920
catalytic converters and so forth where

1397
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,200
it cleans the gas from impurities and so

1398
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,240
forth. And it takes out the wax and and other things and makes it clean. And

1399
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,680
it's comparable to a a low sulfur

1400
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,839
diesel, ultra low uh uh diesel fuel. And

1401
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:39,200
that that fuel itself is from the gas is

1402
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,040
turned back to liquid. It goes into a

1403
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,520
holding tank. Uh the wax is separated

1404
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,920
obviously. Uh it could be used for other

1405
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,000
things. And um uh it does uh we do about

1406
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,920
2,000 gallons a day of the paralysis of

1407
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,720
oil called diesel. And we'll do 8,000

1408
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,440
this facility will do 8,000 gallons per

1409
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,480
day of that diesel.

1410
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,720
>> So then does it get stored on site?

1411
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,559
>> Yes. Uh there's two storage tanks that

1412
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,799
are get stored and and you'll get a

1413
01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:14,400
tanker truck uh daily that'll fill up

1414
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,960
the fuel fuel trucks fill up and go out.

1415
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,480
So we only have one truck that goes out

1416
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,200
every day. So it's not like a bunch of

1417
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,280
traffic and coming in and out. And I

1418
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,640
know that's probably one of the concerns

1419
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:30,390
and questions too.

1420
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,040
Now, this is the parcel

1421
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,160
for the plastics to diesel. Uh is again

1422
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,000
like I was explaining earlier, we're

1423
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,200
going to come in right through where

1424
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,160
Helina is at of Hope Road through the

1425
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,720
back road there and into the facility.

1426
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,799
As you can see, uh it's very compact. Uh

1427
01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:51,839
it's very safe. Uh the system itself has

1428
01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:54,079
automatic shut off valves in case

1429
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:56,319
something happens. There hasn't been one

1430
01:01:56,319 --> 01:02:00,799
fire or explosion at all. uh and uh it's

1431
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:03,119
very safe and it created a lot of jobs

1432
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:07,280
and um I could say that uh uh again uh

1433
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,119
creating as you've been reading probably

1434
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:12,240
with that Iran war and and I think um

1435
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,680
this is maybe getting off the subject

1436
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,200
but I think they bombed a Russian uh oil

1437
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,280
field and diesel has gone up to at least

1438
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,079
six months.

1439
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,400
>> Yeah. And this is crucial because we're

1440
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,640
producing our own diesel for the port

1441
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,480
which we can keep the prices very

1442
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,079
reasonable compared to what the market

1443
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,720
says and it's going up. So you know gas

1444
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,880
is high and diesel. So I think this is

1445
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,589
crucial for what we're doing.

1446
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:40,319
Uh [clears throat] the next page 19

1447
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:42,720
shows you a little bit how the environal

1448
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,000
recycling campus looks. As you can see,

1449
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,359
we're going to have signs, beautiful

1450
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:49,920
signs coming out from Third Line Road.

1451
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,359
We're going to have everything fenced

1452
01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:53,359
in. Everything is going to be

1453
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:56,400
landscaped. Uh, and it's going to it's

1454
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,000
just going to be it's going to have a

1455
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,640
big positive impact on the Kingsbury

1456
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,720
Industrial Park. Honestly, I think it'll

1457
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,720
have a bigger impact than a data center.

1458
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,839
I might be speaking, but it might just

1459
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:10,000
have. And I think uh we were involved. I

1460
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,880
was involved personally in the Nexus

1461
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,720
uh project. I was there on 5th. I

1462
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,039
started that project from scratch and

1463
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:18,640
that's also a very good project. I think

1464
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,000
this project is better.

1465
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,319
>> Okay.

1466
01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:22,160
>> I hope next is not here. No.

1467
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,480
>> Okay. [laughter] Okay. Don't tell. Okay.

1468
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,920
>> We'll keep it a secret.

1469
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,559
>> This is the uh environmental impact. Uh

1470
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,400
reduces greenhouse gases equivalent to

1471
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,280
bulldozing 100 square miles and planting

1472
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,880
trees. Removes waste from the waist

1473
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,760
stream. Reduces dependence on landfills.

1474
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,920
embraces practice and policies that

1475
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,720
dramatically reduce the footprint. Uh

1476
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,440
what is the local impact uh local impact

1477
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,119
and job creation? I think we're going to

1478
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:51,119
be an immediate economic driver in Leort

1479
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:53,760
County. Uh the job metrics is going to

1480
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,520
provide a lot of permanent full green

1481
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,760
color position spanning from heavy

1482
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,440
equipment operation, advanced system

1483
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,000
technicians, laboratory, control,

1484
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,240
analytics, logical coordinators, site

1485
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,480
management. They have a a bunch of

1486
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,039
ancillary jobs, truck, heavy freight,

1487
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:12,960
local vendors and so forth.

1488
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,720
And the final page will be what is the

1489
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,440
campus economic direct and indirect

1490
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,720
impact. The material recovery facility

1491
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,440
alone will do about 60 full-time jobs.

1492
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,799
The campus itself will produce over 120

1493
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:33,440
construction jobs and also 155 full-time

1494
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,720
jobs which will have full benefits 15 to

1495
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,720
$40 an hour. Now there's more like the

1496
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,480
commercial. There's more. But wait,

1497
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,520
there's more. Okay, we're going to do

1498
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,319
unbelievable affordable housing program.

1499
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:53,280
So, we are going to work with the

1500
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,720
commissioners, the council, the planner,

1501
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,720
everybody in the port to try to take

1502
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,559
some of these houses that need to be

1503
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:02,640
demolished or rehab. And we going

1504
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,640
through our company, we're not charge

1505
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,720
anybody anything. We're going to work

1506
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,119
with you guys. Uh we're going to rehab

1507
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:11,599
them and make them beautiful. And with

1508
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:13,920
that, in partnership with two banks, I'm

1509
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,760
not going to say their names now, but

1510
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,359
we're right now talking to two local

1511
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:19,520
banks. They're very excited about it.

1512
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,760
And if you work at our facility and come

1513
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,119
with a good attitude, that's all we

1514
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,640
want. Come with a good attitude, we will

1515
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,640
work with you and provide you an

1516
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,240
affordable house.

1517
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,200
>> Interesting.

1518
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,119
>> For your family so that the American

1519
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:34,880
dream, you could reach it and become

1520
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,280
stable. Also

1521
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,880
something else I think which is very

1522
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,799
important. Second chance program. I've

1523
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:42,319
heard all the time we're young, we do

1524
01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:44,960
stupid stuff, we do crazy stuff. One

1525
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,440
young guy, I remember when we were uh in

1526
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,359
another city, he sat up there. He said,

1527
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:51,440
"Man, you know, when I was 18 years old,

1528
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,039
I had a gun in my car. It wasn't

1529
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:55,359
registered, but the police stopped me. I

1530
01:05:55,359 --> 01:05:56,720
wasn't doing anything with it, and I got

1531
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,240
a felony charge, and I haven't been able

1532
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,200
to work, so I'm selling drugs

1533
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,680
to support my four kids." I said, "Well,

1534
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,400
you know what?" I said, "Listen, when we

1535
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,920
once we hopefully get approved, I said,

1536
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,280
uh, we're going to build this

1537
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,680
unbelievable campus where if a person

1538
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,480
like you needs a job and you really

1539
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,000
don't know anything that crazy, we've

1540
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,480
done crazy, silly, stupid stuff. You

1541
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,280
could come and work for us and we will

1542
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,039
guarantee you a job. Just come with a

1543
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:28,559
good attitude and come on time." Uh,

1544
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:32,160
also think about this. By creating 155

1545
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,240
jobs, it's going to have a big impact.

1546
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,760
That means people will have spendable

1547
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,480
income in Leaport County. People will

1548
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,880
buy houses, cars, purchase, spending,

1549
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,079
restaurants, eat. All the businesses

1550
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:46,026
will benefit. You'll keep

1551
01:06:46,026 --> 01:06:46,799
[clears throat] things out of the

1552
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:49,200
landfill

1553
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,920
and create useful products to help our

1554
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,760
environment.

1555
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,359
I could go on for hours talking about

1556
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:58,319
this. And at this is the end of the

1557
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:01,039
presentation. We do have a couple

1558
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,680
letters, support letters that were in

1559
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,480
your packet. One was from actually the

1560
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,880
fire department that we met with, Chief

1561
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,799
Jeff, and he loved it. And he said,

1562
01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:13,200
"Man, this is good. We got an entrance

1563
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,720
for the fire department. We got the

1564
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,960
turning lanes for them. My brother was a

1565
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,359
fireman for 42 years and a chief, so I

1566
01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:22,079
know all about fires." Um, and we did

1567
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:23,599
everything. And he said, "Jim, this is

1568
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,920
good for us what you're doing." And he

1569
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,920
says, "Man, I love it." So, I'd like to

1570
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,359
thank the zoning board members for

1571
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:32,000
allowing me uh the time to present this

1572
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,760
very very important project to the port

1573
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,000
county and respectfully for taking your

1574
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,280
time. Thank you so much.

1575
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,559
>> Thank you. Let's see if we have any

1576
01:07:38,559 --> 01:07:40,480
remmonstrators for this petition.

1577
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,440
There's anybody in favor or against?

1578
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,760
I see I see some people standing up.

1579
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,599
So, if you want to have a seat, Jim.

1580
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,760
>> Yes.

1581
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,160
>> We'll get you next.

1582
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,680
>> Good evening. County Commissioner Steve

1583
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,480
Hollowfield, 555 Michigan Avenue. Uh,

1584
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,720
Mr. Ventura met with us earlier this

1585
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,359
week. It's an outstanding program. I

1586
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:05,839
also serve on the solid waste board and

1587
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:07,440
we've looked at this also. We looked at

1588
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,520
purchasing a biochar outfit ourselves.

1589
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,599
Well, it's a better idea to let him have

1590
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:13,760
the biochar outfit, spend the money,

1591
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,839
take our yard waste. He's doing a great

1592
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:17,199
things out there at the other place

1593
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:19,199
already, taking in food waste. It's

1594
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:20,239
supposed to open up the end of this

1595
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:22,960
month, I believe. He's talking to people

1596
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,520
around the county. They'll take tires

1597
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,759
because tires are are a problem no

1598
01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:29,040
matter what because nobody wants to take

1599
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,199
them but they'll take them for a fee.

1600
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:33,120
He's going to create jobs. No better

1601
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,640
thing to do inside the industrial park

1602
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,920
out there is to put an industry out

1603
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,440
there. Period. It's a perfect place.

1604
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:38,560
It's much better than destroying

1605
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,480
farmland like they're doing outside the

1606
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:42,719
county now. So this is an industrial

1607
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:44,799
park. It's need to be developed. I've

1608
01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:46,719
been involved in that park for 52 years

1609
01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:49,440
of my life. It needs to be developed.

1610
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:51,199
Period. He's met all the rules and

1611
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:53,279
regulations that we've asked him

1612
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,679
questions as far as keeping it safe,

1613
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,440
clean, and what he's going to do for

1614
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:59,440
affordable housing and to help felony

1615
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:01,600
felonies. That's an even better idea.

1616
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,960
So, I'd like to see you grant this

1617
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,440
petition. Thank you,

1618
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:08,080
>> sir. If you'd like to come up. Oh, hold

1619
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,520
on, Jim. We're going to hear from this.

1620
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,910
We're going to hear from

1621
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,600
» Hi, my name is Earl Miller. I work at

1622
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,000
Tyler Industries in uh both Leaport and

1623
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,239
Kingsbury. Uh Kingsbury Castings is on

1624
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,040
Third Road uh just immediately at uh to

1625
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,640
the south of the uh proposed campus. So

1626
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:34,080
um generally we would be in favor of uh having uh this type of industrial

1627
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,640
component. We did talk to Jim. Uh he did

1628
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,120
make contact with us. um you know, as

1629
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,199
long as he follows all the P's and Q's

1630
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:42,560
uh of everything that he's supposed to

1631
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,960
do with, you know, IDM and uh you know,

1632
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,080
that is in a 5-year recharge zone of the

1633
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,159
wellbe out there. So, he's just got to

1634
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:51,359
make sure that all I mean everything

1635
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:53,040
you've said is all your liquids will be

1636
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,320
inside and so on. You know, we don't

1637
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,199
want to

1638
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:57,679
>> do anything with that. Um

1639
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:00,400
so, he wants it seems like Jim wants to

1640
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,920
be a good neighbor to us and everything

1641
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,360
that he we've talked about. I mean, if

1642
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,320
he comes through with that, that's

1643
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:05,600
great. We're going to be we're going to

1644
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,320
be great neighbors for years. Um, one

1645
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,640
thing I have to bring up, um, and it's

1646
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,880
funny that Jim even mentioned this, uh,

1647
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,679
as the reason that he moved from his,

1648
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:17,840
uh, fifth line road to third line road

1649
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,280
is voila, third line road is paved and

1650
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,440
is well paved. True. And we

1651
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:24,800
>> And no one's shooting at him.

1652
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,480
>> Huge. What's that? [laughter]

1653
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:27,760
>> And no one's shooting at him.

1654
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,520
>> Oh, I didn't know any shooting.

1655
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,159
>> The shooting range. So there's no

1656
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:34,640
shooting range in the area. Yeah. Okay.

1657
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,360
Sorry I said that but yeah.

1658
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,159
>> Yes. Um so you know Kingsbury Castings

1659
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:42,719
and Highers have um been a huge

1660
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:44,800
contributor to Third Road and we had

1661
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,120
this consortium of neighbors that we

1662
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,520
were all working together. Steve can uh

1663
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,360
vouch for that cuz he knows some of the

1664
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,640
details and then the county came in and

1665
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,960
um tried to eminent domain it and take

1666
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,199
it away and it just we tried to work

1667
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:00,800
with the redevelopment commission and it

1668
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,800
just fell apart. And now everybody out

1669
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,719
there thinks, well, the county is

1670
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:05,760
eventually going to take over the roads

1671
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,199
and so we don't need to put anything

1672
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:08,800
back in. And so meanwhile, you know

1673
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,480
what's going to happen? So I know Jim H

1674
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,600
has in his packet it says $50 million is

1675
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,679
going to be put into here. Just a small

1676
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:19,920
sliver of that could pave, you know,

1677
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,880
from HUP to your location would go a

1678
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,229
long way towards

1679
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:28,159
» All right. All right. All right, I'll

1680
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:30,400
let you come back up and you can get

1681
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,920
that on record here in a minute.

1682
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,760
>> Um, the only other thing, and this this

1683
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,440
may be weird, you've chosen a weird

1684
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,360
address number beginning with a six.

1685
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,120
Ours begins with three and we're further

1686
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,360
south. So, I don't know how that uh came

1687
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,199
about and it maybe it doesn't make sense

1688
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:44,640
or maybe it does make sense. Maybe it

1689
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,640
does in the grand scheme of things, but

1690
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:51,360
um ours has been in the 3232

1691
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,760
and kind of they go they grow as they go

1692
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,199
south. At least that's what we've tried

1693
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:56,719
to do. So, I think that's something that

1694
01:11:56,719 --> 01:11:58,480
the building commissioner's office can

1695
01:11:58,480 --> 01:11:59,520
look at.

1696
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,400
>> Make sure everybody knows an address and

1697
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,719
how to get there and, you know, I always

1698
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:09,040
encourage um fire and EMS and things

1699
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,199
like that to make sure they're made

1700
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:13,199
aware of the address as well and what

1701
01:12:13,199 --> 01:12:14,880
kind of activities go on there.

1702
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,120
>> It's it's super confusing. Yeah, it's

1703
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:17,760
super confusing.

1704
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,679
>> Yeah. Um,

1705
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:23,920
one one last one last thing with the number of trucks in his Gary

1706
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,000
proposal was about 250 trucks in that

1707
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,000
proposal. So, I just wanted to emphasize

1708
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,600
there's going to be a lot of trucks

1709
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,960
every couple minutes. There's going to

1710
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,719
be a big semi-truck going down the road.

1711
01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:35,199
Thank you.

1712
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:37,440
>> Thank you.

1713
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:38,800
>> All right. Hold on. Let's see if there

1714
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,480
are any other remmonstrators. Anybody

1715
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,560
else? For or against?

1716
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,840
All right, Jim. Oh, are do you have

1717
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,400
Okay, come on up. Yeah, don't jump up

1718
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:50,800
there.

1719
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,760
>> My My name is Rodney Peters and uh uh

1720
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,840
15615 South Wal. Um I own some property

1721
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,199
near this location and I just got the

1722
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:03,920
letter yesterday and uh I didn't know

1723
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,280
anything about didn't see it in the

1724
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,040
region and all that. So this is all

1725
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,760
brand new information to me. So I really

1726
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,000
not for it or against it. I just like

1727
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,199
>> some additional information

1728
01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:15,120
>> just so I know. Um I'm familiar with

1729
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,719
Steve. So, I can probably work with

1730
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:17,760
Steve a little bit on

1731
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,400
>> I can if it's all right with Jim, I can

1732
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,630
give you my packet.

1733
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,719
» Perfect.

1734
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:28,560
>> Sure.

1735
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,640
>> That that'd be fine if you with me.

1736
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:31,600
>> Wonderful.

1737
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,440
>> Thank you.

1738
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,760
>> All right. Any other Vmonstrators? This

1739
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,950
your last chance. Come on up.

1740
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,920
My name is Jim Whitfield. I own property

1741
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,280
there on Third Road, too.

1742
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:48,400
>> What's your address, Jim?

1743
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,080
>> The address there is 6417

1744
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:52,800
Third Row.

1745
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:53,120
>> Okay.

1746
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,080
>> My home address is 4163 North 600 West

1747
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,960
here in Leort. We bought the building a

1748
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,800
couple years ago to do some uh

1749
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,280
industrial recycling with soap from the

1750
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,280
soap guy whenever he was out there.

1751
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,239
>> Okay. Uh so far we've not done a whole

1752
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:10,000
lot in that building, but I do own the

1753
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,480
building. So uh but I do think just like

1754
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:17,600
everybody else, this type of the system

1755
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,080
is needed here in this general area. Uh

1756
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,640
there is a lot of I do industrial

1757
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,840
recycling elsewhere, but there is a lot

1758
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,600
of need

1759
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,199
for to keep the stuff out of our

1760
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:32,719
landfill.

1761
01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:34,719
You know, we keep hearing these people

1762
01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:37,520
say that, you know, they're recycling

1763
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,440
when the Delon truck goes right to the

1764
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:42,159
garbage place. I've watched them. I've

1765
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:45,920
seen it firsthand. So, I think this

1766
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,000
would be a good system for the the

1767
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,280
county.

1768
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:49,920
>> Very good.

1769
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,400
>> All right.

1770
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:50,800
>> Thank you.

1771
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,760
>> Yep.

1772
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,229
>> Jimmy.

1773
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:03,110
» All right. Mr. Ventura, come on up.

1774
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,040
So, we're going to talk about those road

1775
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,159
agreement. Oh,

1776
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:06,880
>> the road.

1777
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,600
>> Sure.

1778
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,120
>> That's not a problem.

1779
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,120
>> Meetings with Mike and we've had all

1780
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,199
kind of meeting problem taking it over.

1781
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:14,560
I think it's kind of complicated

1782
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,239
probably, but I will say on record today

1783
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:21,760
>> that we will definitely pitch in to keep

1784
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,800
that road nice. It's nice right now.

1785
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,080
Fifth is horrible.

1786
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:26,719
>> It's true.

1787
01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:29,120
>> Okay. And central actually half is

1788
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,280
horrible. So third is beautiful. Hope

1789
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,199
road obviously is the main road. We want

1790
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,280
to keep it nice. We definitely want to

1791
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,600
keep it safe. We will put signs out

1792
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,120
there. And not only that, we're going to

1793
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,280
have cameras that is going to protect

1794
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,600
their properties 24 hours. We're going

1795
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,360
to have security and make sure because

1796
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,880
there's people that dump illegally out

1797
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:47,360
there.

1798
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:47,840
>> Oh yeah.

1799
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,239
>> We're going to stop that, too.

1800
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:50,719
>> So,

1801
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:52,640
>> okay. What kind of questions do we have

1802
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,880
as a board?

1803
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,520
>> Obviously, the whole time I've traffic,

1804
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,000
truck traffic, truck traffic. the truck.

1805
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,760
>> Are you going to utilize the rail to

1806
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,400
bring anything in? How what's the

1807
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,320
perimeter of the products you're

1808
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,920
bringing in? Where is the stuff coming

1809
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,800
from?

1810
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,400
>> Okay. Um the wood and plastics is coming

1811
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,000
right from the material recovery

1812
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,880
facility. Uh the people that are

1813
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,920
bringing in not far is Leort County and

1814
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,760
also uh just on a tip of New Buffalo, so

1815
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,600
it's close by. It might be a perimeter

1816
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,400
of about 15 miles maybe at the most 20

1817
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,239
something like that maybe 15 diameter

1818
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,560
that's where the that's where the waste

1819
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:37,440
will come from

1820
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,760
>> and then the projected trucks you think

1821
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,760
for the for the entire project with all

1822
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:42,719
the business

1823
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:45,120
>> total uh what he mentioned and I know

1824
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,800
what but that was a different project

1825
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,880
that was a huge project the time we were

1826
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,960
doing we were going to do like 2500 tons

1827
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,719
to 3,000 tons this is 600 tons of MSW

1828
01:16:54,719 --> 01:16:58,960
200 CND total for the whole campus is 32

1829
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,560
trucks the whole day. That's about two

1830
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,679
trucks an hour.

1831
01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:07,440
It's about two trucks an hour

1832
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:12,400
>> in and out. Uh probably

1833
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,800
two trucks going out.

1834
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,560
That's it. That's it. Because the

1835
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,600
biochar does 22 tons, which is one

1836
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,800
truck, and we only deliver that once a

1837
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,320
week.

1838
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,520
The plastics is a tanker that we take

1839
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,920
daily. So that's one truck. The material

1840
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,239
recovery facility will do 26 trucks the

1841
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:38,159
whole thing. And again, that's over a 16

1842
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:41,120
hour period. So it's about two to three

1843
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,360
trucks an hour. It's not a a high uh

1844
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:46,239
truck traffic.

1845
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:47,920
>> That's I I like the perimeter. That was

1846
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,520
my big thing. I didn't want like a 100

1847
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,520
mile perimeter

1848
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,760
crash. It would never work. It would

1849
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,640
never work financially either.

1850
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,159
>> Yeah, I get I get that.

1851
01:17:58,159 --> 01:17:59,920
>> No. Yeah. So, we're going to make our

1852
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:00,960
own diesel.

1853
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,320
>> Sorry for the phone. I thought I'd turn

1854
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,590
that off.

1855
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,640
» Um, so you said that you were going to

1856
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,480
haul the diesel out, but then you said

1857
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:12,080
it could stay here to help us with our

1858
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:12,960
fuel cost.

1859
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,480
>> No, the diesel would be for sale. We

1860
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,560
have buyers, but we're going to work

1861
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,480
with the port county first. The jobs

1862
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,719
would be first in Port County. The

1863
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:23,679
diesel will be first on the port county.

1864
01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:25,040
Everything is going to be first.

1865
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,040
>> So would I have to buy it as a semi load

1866
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,159
of diesel fuel?

1867
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:29,840
>> Uh, no. I mean, we could something that

1868
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,520
we could sit down and talk about. I know

1869
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,360
you guys are farm

1870
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,120
>> business. No, we want to work with you.

1871
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,280
>> I was just cur I'm just it's not a

1872
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,120
condition at all. I'm not it not that doesn't affect my doesn't affect my

1873
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,600
decision whatsoever. I'm just I'm just

1874
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,520
curious as to the business model.

1875
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,120
>> Yeah, we're going to go ahead and strike

1876
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,920
that whole line of questioning.

1877
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,429
Let me detail.

1878
01:18:52,429 --> 01:18:54,394
[laughter]

1879
01:18:54,394 --> 01:18:55,280
[clears throat]

1880
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,159
>> It's a green.

1881
01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:57,440
>> Sure, man.

1882
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:58,719
>> I'm not sure. Now, now just

1883
01:18:58,719 --> 01:19:00,400
>> that's all right. I know. I know where

1884
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:01,120
you can get a job.

1885
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,239
>> Cuz he said that it's going to be

1886
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:04,480
cheaper fuel in Leaport County for six

1887
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:05,520
years.

1888
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,480
>> I did. I worked

1889
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:08,400
>> I don't think anybody there.

1890
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,320
>> Tony, do you have any questions?

1891
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,640
>> Um, I guess they're more probably for

1892
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,960
Mike. Uh,

1893
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,400
since we went down a rabbit hole, we

1894
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,000
made we've made uh the attorney very

1895
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,000
uncomfortable. [laughter]

1896
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:20,880
which is a good thing.

1897
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,159
>> You got his head down.

1898
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:24,400
>> Um

1899
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,080
>> there is the thing called the fifth

1900
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,199
amendment that would be very applicable

1901
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:32,870
here.

1902
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,280
» Part part of this uh sir would be uh

1903
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,199
there's a pro a section in the JO

1904
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:39,120
section 14.17

1905
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,440
that discusses requirements around waste

1906
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:43,199
processing and disposal facilities. I

1907
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:44,640
assume you're going to meet all the

1908
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,000
requirements of that section.

1909
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,600
>> Exactly. We have to deal with it very

1910
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:48,159
strict.

1911
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:49,520
>> Yeah. And that's this is outside of

1912
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,640
that. I think they're I think they're

1913
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,840
pretty reasonable provisions in there,

1914
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:52,880
but I wanted to make sure you were going

1915
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,440
to meet those.

1916
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:55,120
>> I'm very familiar with item. Item is

1917
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,880
very familiar with me.

1918
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:57,360
>> Um

1919
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,480
>> hope in a good way.

1920
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:00,159
>> No, it is. [laughter] It is

1921
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:00,880
>> miss um

1922
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,120
>> it is the nexus the nexus project is

1923
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,960
very difficult to do.

1924
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:05,840
>> It's complicated.

1925
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,440
>> This would be really for um attorney

1926
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:10,719
volts and Mr. Poland. The way I see this

1927
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:12,159
what what the request is is for a

1928
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:13,840
special exception. We have three

1929
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,400
separate uses from what I see here all

1930
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,719
on one parcel.

1931
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:20,640
I don't know. There's there are some

1932
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,400
specific outlines of what's permitted

1933
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,199
and what's not under article 9 and heavy

1934
01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:26,880
industrial.

1935
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,719
Um I just want to make sure that we all

1936
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:31,199
understand what's being requested.

1937
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,600
Processing, storage, transfer stations,

1938
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,360
disposal or incineration of solid waste,

1939
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:36,960
hazardous waste, medical waste. That's

1940
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:37,840
all special.

1941
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,520
>> Okay. Oh, I wanted to correct you.

1942
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,640
>> No, no. I'm just saying that's that's

1943
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,159
part of the JCO. I know you're not doing

1944
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:43,440
some of those things, but that's just

1945
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:44,640
something in the J. I know you're not

1946
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:45,760
handling medical waste. I get it.

1947
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,280
>> Or incineration. or you're not

1948
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:48,640
incinerating. Okay. So, there's and

1949
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:49,840
there's recycling facility

1950
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,800
non-hazardous.

1951
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,640
I'm guess I'm asking where does where

1952
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,280
are we falling here? Or does part of

1953
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,280
this fall part of this must fall under a

1954
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,840
special exception

1955
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,520
is what we're what what I'm asking. What part specifically under your

1956
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,120
determination as the building official

1957
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:15,669
falls under a special exception?

1958
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:18,719
I think when this was filed for

1959
01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:21,760
previously, it was a special exception

1960
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,120
and so was Nexus and these are pretty

1961
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,320
much same or similar operations. Um, so

1962
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,920
they refiled under the same unders.

1963
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,120
Okay.

1964
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:33,920
>> So

1965
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,159
>> I think the change in location is

1966
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:37,600
probably what prompted

1967
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,719
>> Sure. And attorney volts, we could

1968
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:43,120
blanket that under a single anything we

1969
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,280
do could be blanketed. If if the the the

1970
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:46,800
pleasure of the board is to to go

1971
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,640
forward with a motion, it would be a

1972
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,080
single provision to approve as

1973
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,280
presented. More or less.

1974
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,320
>> Correct. And and Madame President is

1975
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,199
accurate there in that the previously

1976
01:21:57,199 --> 01:21:59,679
applied for and granted special

1977
01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:04,000
exception was running with that section,

1978
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,120
that area, that property, that parcel.

1979
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,120
He the petitioner is indicating that the

1980
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,920
same or similar use will be present with

1981
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,120
this petition but it is subject on a

1982
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,000
different parcel. Thus the need for a

1983
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,639
petitioner to come back and again for

1984
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:26,080
all intents and purposes resubmit his

1985
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,159
petition for a special exception even

1986
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:30,800
though it's again the same or

1987
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,639
substantially similar to the previously

1988
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:34,719
granted special exception for a

1989
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:36,239
different property. Does that make

1990
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:38,480
sense? Yes, Mr. Ventur, do you plan to

1991
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:40,080
continue operating at the other site or

1992
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,040
you're moving your operation?

1993
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,880
>> No, no, we're moving the third every

1994
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:48,229
>> Okay.

1995
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:50,400
» Would you have an issue with the special

1996
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,920
exception being rescended at that site?

1997
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,520
>> Uh, not I mean, if you're moving rather

1998
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:58,960
than have it stay open,

1999
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,719
>> we're not doing anything at all. We

2000
01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:02,239
close that deal and I completely would

2001
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:02,560
break

2002
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,120
>> I feel like that's not included in this.

2003
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,280
It's going to be a separate issue to if

2004
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,120
we're going to resend that doesn't

2005
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,560
pertain to this petition's approval.

2006
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,360
>> It's a moot point because the

2007
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:16,080
>> a new

2008
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,120
>> does it expire

2009
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,639
>> a new person would have to come in and

2010
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:19,040
petition

2011
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,560
>> vacancy of 12 or more months,

2012
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:20,960
>> right?

2013
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:21,679
>> Okay.

2014
01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:24,560
>> Use continued use. It's it's the

2015
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,719
inactivity period that that is that is

2016
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:28,320
triggered and then because there has

2017
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,159
been no activity under that previously

2018
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:31,520
granted special [clears throat]

2019
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,639
exception it will die on the vine for

2020
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:37,199
lack of a better phrase um and then

2021
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:40,719
become as Mr. Poland indicated moot.

2022
01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:42,239
>> Okay

2023
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:42,560
question

2024
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,080
>> I still am a little hung up on the

2025
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,320
multiple parcels. How many buildings are

2026
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,760
there going to be and how many parcels

2027
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,600
are you going to be operating on?

2028
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:55,830
>> Uh let me go back to that. Um,

2029
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:56,960
» what page is that?

2030
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,400
>> Yeah, like you could just

2031
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,080
>> It was one where it had all three on

2032
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,040
there.

2033
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,880
>> It's It's technically all one parcel.

2034
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,280
It's a very odd But like as with normal

2035
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,960
with what's going on in KIPP, sometimes

2036
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,040
it's a very odd parcel, but it's one tax

2037
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,400
ID number from what it looks like where

2038
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:11,199
he's operating off.

2039
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:11,600
>> Okay.

2040
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,800
>> One tax ID number for county purposes

2041
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,960
and their plan. It's it's called

2042
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,360
multiple parcels, but for the county tax

2043
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,000
purposes, it's one parcel ID with a very

2044
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:22,560
odd shape.

2045
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,560
>> They are non-ontiguous,

2046
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,000
>> right?

2047
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,880
>> We're going to do um

2048
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:29,679
trying to find

2049
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:31,520
>> used to map parcels out there. It's very

2050
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,080
fun.

2051
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:34,239
It's

2052
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:34,639
>> not.

2053
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:37,440
>> Okay. So, if we don't this one,

2054
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:38,719
>> Mr. Point, did that answer your

2055
01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:38,880
question?

2056
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,440
>> Yeah, I'm good. You guys are good.

2057
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,520
>> M Mr. Ventura, your the question was

2058
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:44,080
answered.

2059
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:45,280
>> Thank you. I I

2060
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,520
>> Yeah, we're good.

2061
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,120
>> Okay. So, if there are no further

2062
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,520
questions,

2063
01:24:51,520 --> 01:25:00,470
>> I think uh I'll entertain a motion.

2064
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:02,800
» You guys have been awful tonight. We're

2065
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,950
good.

2066
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,400
» Just make

2067
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,480
>> I'd like to make a motion to

2068
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:15,679
accept this this petition for the

2069
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:20,550
enviral recycling.

2070
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,760
Now I have to re I think it would be a

2071
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,440
very good asset for Leort County.

2072
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:36,070
They meet the requirement.

2073
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,320
Did you include in your motion that you

2074
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,639
believe he has met the requirements of

2075
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:44,159
the special exception?

2076
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:46,400
>> I believe he's met all the requirements

2077
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,960
of the special exception.

2078
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:49,440
>> Second.

2079
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,600
>> Very good presentation.

2080
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,520
>> Okay, I have a motion in a second. All

2081
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,520
those in favor say I. I.

2082
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,120
>> I. Those opposed, same sign.

2083
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,880
All right. Good luck.

2084
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,080
>> Thank you, Jesus.

2085
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,159
>> Good luck at at IDM and everybody else

2086
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:09,189
after us.

2087
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:10,080
» Thank you.

2088
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,000
>> All right. Thank you so much.

2089
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,880
>> So, we still have petition number five.

2090
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,880
>> Petition number five. Are you here? The

2091
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,600
>> McDermotts.

2092
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,520
>> Okay. I don't see them. So, we're going

2093
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,360
to um put them on next month.

2094
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,560
Um is there any other further

2095
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,000
business in front of the board this

2096
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,480
evening.

2097
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:35,360
>> No, Madam President.

2098
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,400
>> Make a motion to

2099
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:39,120
>> Yeah,

2100
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:39,840
>> that's your pen.

2101
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,360
>> I have a motion to adjurnn.

2102
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,080
>> Second. Second.

2103
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,920
>> All those in favor say I.

2104
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:44,719
>> I.

2105
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:46,560
>> Those opposed.

2106
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,320
All right. Have a good night everybody.

2107
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:55,160
Thank you.

2108
01:26:55,170 --> 01:27:09,635
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