1 00:00:02,749 --> 00:00:04,802 You are watching Access LaPorte 2 00:00:04,802 --> 00:00:06,512 County, channel 97. Next up on 3 00:00:06,512 --> 00:00:08,105 the air is the 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,282 LaPorte County Redevelopment Commission meeting from 5 00:00:10,282 --> 00:00:11,518 September 30th. More 6 00:00:11,518 --> 00:00:13,163 information about this 7 00:00:13,163 --> 00:00:14,659 meeting can be 8 00:00:14,659 --> 00:00:16,105 found at 9 00:00:16,105 --> 00:00:22,768 www.accesslaportecounty.org. 10 00:00:22,768 --> 00:00:24,549 Good afternoon. Welcome 11 00:00:24,549 --> 00:00:27,455 to the 12 00:00:27,496 --> 00:00:29,032 La Porte County Redevelopment Commission meeting of 13 00:00:29,032 --> 00:00:30,588 September 30, 2026. 14 00:00:30,588 --> 00:00:31,653 Please mute 15 00:00:31,653 --> 00:00:32,734 your phones. 16 00:00:32,734 --> 00:00:36,610 Stand up for the oath. 17 00:00:36,610 --> 00:00:37,799 Mr. Parkman. 18 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:38,750 I pledge 19 00:00:38,750 --> 00:00:40,651 allegiance to the 20 00:00:40,651 --> 00:00:41,864 flag of the United 21 00:00:41,864 --> 00:00:42,909 States of America and to 22 00:00:42,909 --> 00:00:44,123 the republic for which it 23 00:00:44,123 --> 00:00:45,471 stands, one nation 24 00:00:45,471 --> 00:00:46,111 under God, 25 00:00:46,111 --> 00:00:47,089 indivisible, with 26 00:00:47,089 --> 00:00:47,831 liberty and 27 00:00:47,831 --> 00:00:49,044 justice for 28 00:00:49,044 --> 00:00:51,181 all. 29 00:00:51,181 --> 00:00:52,545 I was surprised myself. 30 00:00:52,545 --> 00:00:53,661 I think I had a 31 00:00:53,661 --> 00:00:54,717 big 32 00:00:54,717 --> 00:00:55,210 flag behind me here. 33 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:57,407 Yes. That's right. 34 00:00:57,407 --> 00:00:58,352 Is it possible to conduct a 35 00:00:58,352 --> 00:00:59,384 general check of 36 00:00:59,384 --> 00:01:00,029 those present? 37 00:01:00,029 --> 00:01:01,110 Adam Koronka. 38 00:01:01,110 --> 00:01:02,150 Present. 39 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:06,708 Don Carr. Scott Cooley. 40 00:01:06,708 --> 00:01:07,791 Jennifer Geet. 41 00:01:07,791 --> 00:01:08,652 Present. 42 00:01:08,652 --> 00:01:09,761 Mark Parkman. 43 00:01:09,761 --> 00:01:10,699 Present. 44 00:01:10,699 --> 00:01:13,143 Connie Gramarossa. 45 00:01:13,143 --> 00:01:14,169 Brett Kessler. 46 00:01:14,169 --> 00:01:14,656 Here. Mr. 47 00:01:14,656 --> 00:01:16,051 Chairman, you have a 48 00:01:16,051 --> 00:01:16,656 quorum. 49 00:01:16,656 --> 00:01:18,214 Thank you. I am now 50 00:01:18,214 --> 00:01:19,377 ready to consider 51 00:01:19,377 --> 00:01:20,346 the proposals for the 52 00:01:20,346 --> 00:01:21,534 agenda. 53 00:01:21,534 --> 00:01:22,601 I propose to approve the 54 00:01:22,601 --> 00:01:23,472 agenda as 55 00:01:23,472 --> 00:01:24,287 presented 56 00:01:24,287 --> 00:01:24,809 . 57 00:01:24,809 --> 00:01:25,378 Second. 58 00:01:25,378 --> 00:01:26,411 Motion from Mr. 59 00:01:26,411 --> 00:01:27,500 Parkman, seconded by 60 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:28,490 Ms. Geet. I ask everyone who is "in 61 00:01:28,490 --> 00:01:28,933 favor" 62 00:01:28,933 --> 00:01:29,820 to express themselves with the word " 63 00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:31,537 agree." 64 00:01:31,537 --> 00:01:34,073 Who is "against"? Thank you. 65 00:01:34,105 --> 00:01:35,073 Public comments. 66 00:01:35,073 --> 00:01:36,185 Since we have a lot of 67 00:01:36,185 --> 00:01:36,935 members of 68 00:01:36,935 --> 00:01:37,853 the public, does 69 00:01:37,853 --> 00:01:39,092 anyone want to speak? 70 00:01:39,092 --> 00:01:41,397 Good. The public comment period 71 00:01:42,251 --> 00:01:42,931 has ended. 72 00:01:42,931 --> 00:01:43,762 Approval 73 00:01:43,762 --> 00:01:45,201 of the protocol. 74 00:01:45,201 --> 00:01:46,812 I propose to approve. 75 00:01:46,812 --> 00:01:47,396 Second. 76 00:01:47,396 --> 00:01:47,966 Motion 77 00:01:47,966 --> 00:01:48,970 to approve from Mr. 78 00:01:48,970 --> 00:01:50,029 Kessler, seconded by 79 00:01:50,029 --> 00:01:51,135 Ms. Geeth. I ask everyone who is "in 80 00:01:51,135 --> 00:01:51,707 favor" 81 00:01:51,707 --> 00:01:52,851 to express themselves with the word " 82 00:01:52,851 --> 00:01:54,734 agree." 83 00:01:54,734 --> 00:01:59,672 Who is "against"? Thank you. 84 00:01:59,672 --> 00:02:00,926 Okay, let's move on to the 85 00:02:00,926 --> 00:02:02,082 treasurer's report and 86 00:02:02,082 --> 00:02:04,290 consideration of claims. 87 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:06,804 Report after paying 88 00:02:06,804 --> 00:02:09,677 your claims today: 89 00:02:09,677 --> 00:02:12,192 US 421 distribution area 90 00:02:12,192 --> 00:02:16,235 one, $653,065. US 421 91 00:02:16,235 --> 00:02:18,548 distribution area two, 92 00:02:18,548 --> 00:02:21,889 negative balance $63,368 93 00:02:21,889 --> 00:02:31,198 . KIDC TIF, $234,542. 39 North TIF, 94 00:02:31,198 --> 00:02:39,026 nil. I-94 35, $10,436. And the 95 00:02:39,026 --> 00:02:42,450 loan balance 96 00:02:42,450 --> 00:02:48,143 is $434,960. 97 00:02:48,143 --> 00:02:48,987 End of 98 00:02:48,987 --> 00:02:49,947 Treasurer's Report. 99 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:51,433 Good. Do 100 00:02:51,433 --> 00:02:52,763 we need to take any 101 00:02:52,763 --> 00:02:54,295 action to get 102 00:02:54,295 --> 00:02:55,343 US 421 zone two out of 103 00:02:55,343 --> 00:02:56,957 negative balance? And 104 00:02:56,957 --> 00:02:58,124 in the council we usually 105 00:02:58,124 --> 00:02:59,233 have to 106 00:02:59,233 --> 00:03:01,302 Uh, no. We will wait 107 00:03:01,302 --> 00:03:02,153 until the fall 108 00:03:02,153 --> 00:03:03,151 distribution. 109 00:03:03,151 --> 00:03:03,749 Good. 110 00:03:03,749 --> 00:03:04,345 And then we 111 00:03:04,345 --> 00:03:05,537 will balance the account 112 00:03:05,537 --> 00:03:06,422 by the end of the year. 113 00:03:06,422 --> 00:03:07,812 Good, very good. 114 00:03:07,812 --> 00:03:08,657 So, I am willing 115 00:03:08,657 --> 00:03:09,773 to consider any 116 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:10,679 suggestions regarding the 117 00:03:10,679 --> 00:03:11,685 treasurer's report. 118 00:03:11,685 --> 00:03:12,515 I make this 119 00:03:12,515 --> 00:03:13,374 suggestion. 120 00:03:13,374 --> 00:03:14,346 I support. 121 00:03:14,346 --> 00:03:15,244 Motion by Ms. 122 00:03:15,244 --> 00:03:16,216 Geet, seconded by Mr. 123 00:03:16,216 --> 00:03:17,587 Kessler. All in favor? 124 00:03:17,587 --> 00:03:18,247 Agree. 125 00:03:18,247 --> 00:03:20,921 Who is "against"? Thank you. 126 00:03:20,921 --> 00:03:22,918 Now, looking at 127 00:03:22,918 --> 00:03:25,029 the claims, uh, for KIDC, I 128 00:03:25,029 --> 00:03:26,227 see $1,000 for 129 00:03:26,227 --> 00:03:28,281 professional services 130 00:03:28,281 --> 00:03:30,564 from MCR Partners, uh, $1,500 for 131 00:03:30,564 --> 00:03:32,789 legal services from 132 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:35,525 Guy Astley DeMartino PC. 133 00:03:35,525 --> 00:03:37,388 Look, $207.57 134 00:03:37,388 --> 00:03:38,693 to the Herald Dispatch for 135 00:03:38,693 --> 00:03:40,510 lawsuits or, uh 136 00:03:40,510 --> 00:03:42,327 , legal publications 137 00:03:42,327 --> 00:03:44,191 , $87.50 to Senator 138 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:46,008 Dalton for financial 139 00:03:46,008 --> 00:03:47,359 advisory 140 00:03:47,359 --> 00:03:48,617 services, and 141 00:03:48,617 --> 00:03:50,341 $113.60 to Keel 142 00:03:50,341 --> 00:03:53,556 Media for additional, uh, 143 00:03:53,603 --> 00:03:55,420 public hearing notices, 144 00:03:55,420 --> 00:03:56,865 which together makes a 145 00:03:56,865 --> 00:03:58,682 subtotal of 146 00:03:58,682 --> 00:04:01,344 $2,908.67. 147 00:04:01,344 --> 00:04:02,792 I propose to 148 00:04:02,792 --> 00:04:04,033 approve the 149 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:05,221 KIDC requirements register. 150 00:04:05,221 --> 00:04:05,795 Second. 151 00:04:05,795 --> 00:04:06,677 The motion was approved by 152 00:04:06,677 --> 00:04:07,397 Mr. Parkman, 153 00:04:07,397 --> 00:04:08,140 seconded by Mr. 154 00:04:08,140 --> 00:04:09,145 Kessler. All those in 155 00:04:09,145 --> 00:04:09,934 favor, please 156 00:04:09,934 --> 00:04:11,528 say yes. 157 00:04:11,528 --> 00:04:14,223 Against? Good. And on 421 158 00:04:14,223 --> 00:04:16,123 number one, we have 159 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:17,974 $5,000 for MCR partner, uh 160 00:04:17,974 --> 00:04:19,873 , partners for professional 161 00:04:19,873 --> 00:04:21,140 services and 162 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:23,039 $87.50 for Senator 163 00:04:23,039 --> 00:04:24,939 Dalton for financial 164 00:04:24,939 --> 00:04:26,352 advisory 165 00:04:26,352 --> 00:04:28,300 services, making a grand 166 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:29,907 total or 167 00:04:29,907 --> 00:04:31,807 subtotal of 168 00:04:31,807 --> 00:04:33,415 $5,087.50. 169 00:04:33,415 --> 00:04:34,607 I propose to approve 170 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:36,042 the payment. 171 00:04:36,042 --> 00:04:37,090 The motion was approved by 172 00:04:37,090 --> 00:04:37,724 Mr. Sees, 173 00:04:37,724 --> 00:04:38,607 seconded by Mr. 174 00:04:38,607 --> 00:04:39,920 Parkman. Everyone who is "in 175 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,258 favor" of US 421, 176 00:04:41,258 --> 00:04:42,898 please say "yes." 177 00:04:42,898 --> 00:04:43,684 Yes. 178 00:04:43,684 --> 00:04:46,876 Against? Thank you. Old 179 00:04:46,876 --> 00:04:49,144 questions. 180 00:04:49,144 --> 00:04:50,164 Matt's favorite part. 181 00:04:50,164 --> 00:04:51,202 Yes, sir. 182 00:04:51,202 --> 00:04:52,642 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 183 00:04:52,642 --> 00:04:55,768 Update on 421 I-94 184 00:04:55,768 --> 00:04:56,206 TIP. 185 00:04:56,206 --> 00:04:57,436 Earlier this month, 186 00:04:57,436 --> 00:04:58,543 we had a meeting with a 187 00:04:58,543 --> 00:04:59,619 developer 188 00:04:59,619 --> 00:05:00,695 looking at a site 189 00:05:00,695 --> 00:05:01,833 that the commissioners may 190 00:05:01,833 --> 00:05:03,063 remember, or some of 191 00:05:03,063 --> 00:05:04,017 you may still have been in this 192 00:05:04,017 --> 00:05:05,207 position. It was, uh, a 193 00:05:05,207 --> 00:05:06,179 company from South 194 00:05:06,179 --> 00:05:07,372 Bend that was going to 195 00:05:07,372 --> 00:05:08,250 build a 196 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:09,505 small warehouse 197 00:05:09,505 --> 00:05:10,735 distribution center there. 198 00:05:10,735 --> 00:05:11,950 It's about 22 acres 199 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:13,130 right off 200 00:05:13,130 --> 00:05:15,033 Kiefer Road. And, uh, we had a 201 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:15,954 meeting with them. Uh, I 202 00:05:15,954 --> 00:05:16,580 met with the 203 00:05:16,580 --> 00:05:17,690 road service and 204 00:05:17,690 --> 00:05:18,751 Mitch. And, uh, they 205 00:05:18,751 --> 00:05:19,578 want to do a 206 00:05:19,578 --> 00:05:20,406 pretty big 207 00:05:20,406 --> 00:05:21,345 project. I think the 208 00:05:21,345 --> 00:05:22,823 investment is 209 00:05:22,823 --> 00:05:25,010 , Carlton? 210 00:05:25,010 --> 00:05:25,813 13. 211 00:05:25,813 --> 00:05:27,610 million, 65 new 212 00:05:27,610 --> 00:05:29,368 jobs. Uh, we 213 00:05:29,368 --> 00:05:30,421 were discussing the type of 214 00:05:30,421 --> 00:05:31,474 structure they 215 00:05:31,474 --> 00:05:32,661 want to build here. 216 00:05:32,661 --> 00:05:33,637 They, they 217 00:05:33,637 --> 00:05:34,430 lean more towards 218 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:35,010 metal 219 00:05:35,010 --> 00:05:36,057 structures. It's 220 00:05:36,057 --> 00:05:37,075 quite close to a 221 00:05:37,075 --> 00:05:37,939 fairly expensive 222 00:05:37,939 --> 00:05:39,112 hospital and right next to an 223 00:05:39,112 --> 00:05:40,538 intersection. So, like, 224 00:05:40,538 --> 00:05:41,232 uh, during 225 00:05:41,232 --> 00:05:42,774 the negotiations with Great Lakes 226 00:05:42,774 --> 00:05:44,200 Capital, I assume it will be something like 227 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,727 that. 228 00:05:45,727 --> 00:05:46,667 Hey, look, we 229 00:05:46,667 --> 00:05:47,842 probably want this to 230 00:05:47,842 --> 00:05:48,723 look a little 231 00:05:48,723 --> 00:05:49,839 different than what you 232 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,750 guys are planning to 233 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:52,086 do. Uh, in connection 234 00:05:52,086 --> 00:05:52,981 with this, they, uh, 235 00:05:52,981 --> 00:05:54,306 asked to consider 236 00:05:54,306 --> 00:05:55,002 the possibility of 237 00:05:55,002 --> 00:05:56,462 tax breaks. Uh, 238 00:05:56,462 --> 00:05:57,672 I said, "Sure, 239 00:05:57,672 --> 00:05:58,991 let's discuss 240 00:05:58,991 --> 00:06:00,141 it." Uh, so they 241 00:06:00,141 --> 00:06:01,301 actually filled out 242 00:06:01,301 --> 00:06:02,095 and, and, uh, to 243 00:06:02,095 --> 00:06:03,225 give this 244 00:06:03,225 --> 00:06:04,354 company credit, they 245 00:06:04,354 --> 00:06:06,339 filled out the 246 00:06:06,369 --> 00:06:07,560 benefits declaration paperwork correctly, which, uh, they 247 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,629 must have someone who 248 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:09,958 knows what they're doing. I was 249 00:06:09,958 --> 00:06:11,118 shocked. Uh, and 250 00:06:11,118 --> 00:06:12,298 they sent it to us. 251 00:06:12,298 --> 00:06:12,994 So, we have a very 252 00:06:12,994 --> 00:06:13,842 good idea of 253 00:06:13,842 --> 00:06:14,473 what they want 254 00:06:14,473 --> 00:06:15,257 to do and when they 255 00:06:15,257 --> 00:06:16,239 want to do it. Uh 256 00:06:16,239 --> 00:06:17,426 , they have a preliminary 257 00:06:17,426 --> 00:06:22,170 plan of the site. So, I 258 00:06:22,170 --> 00:06:23,278 assume that this 259 00:06:23,278 --> 00:06:24,212 project will be at the 260 00:06:24,212 --> 00:06:25,215 council meeting, 261 00:06:25,215 --> 00:06:26,392 perhaps on the 262 00:06:26,392 --> 00:06:27,741 agenda for the 25th, 263 00:06:27,741 --> 00:06:28,571 to consider a 264 00:06:28,571 --> 00:06:29,506 declaratory 265 00:06:29,506 --> 00:06:30,786 resolution regarding this 266 00:06:30,786 --> 00:06:31,893 zone; since we 267 00:06:31,893 --> 00:06:33,139 separated the TIF, I'm not 268 00:06:33,139 --> 00:06:34,004 sure if 269 00:06:34,004 --> 00:06:35,284 we need permission 270 00:06:35,284 --> 00:06:36,184 from the 271 00:06:36,184 --> 00:06:37,222 bondholders, but I'll 272 00:06:37,222 --> 00:06:38,087 check with 273 00:06:38,087 --> 00:06:38,952 Sender to 274 00:06:38,952 --> 00:06:40,024 see if 275 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:41,304 we need to get 276 00:06:41,304 --> 00:06:46,712 their consent. Again 277 00:06:46,712 --> 00:06:47,531 , this is now a 278 00:06:47,531 --> 00:06:49,327 piece of 279 00:06:49,358 --> 00:06:50,335 farmland right next to 280 00:06:50,335 --> 00:06:50,996 the interchange, 281 00:06:50,996 --> 00:06:52,256 located in an area where the 282 00:06:52,256 --> 00:06:53,390 county previously 283 00:06:53,390 --> 00:06:55,060 invested in 284 00:06:55,091 --> 00:06:55,973 sewer and 285 00:06:55,973 --> 00:06:57,711 water improvements. So that 286 00:06:57,711 --> 00:06:59,438 makes sense. Building 287 00:06:59,438 --> 00:07:00,944 water and sewage systems is 288 00:07:00,944 --> 00:07:02,283 already possible. They had a 289 00:07:02,283 --> 00:07:03,168 pretty tight 290 00:07:03,168 --> 00:07:04,053 deadline and 291 00:07:04,053 --> 00:07:05,065 wanted to get started 292 00:07:05,065 --> 00:07:06,821 . I don't know if 293 00:07:06,821 --> 00:07:07,722 they tried to 294 00:07:07,722 --> 00:07:08,924 make it this year, 295 00:07:08,924 --> 00:07:10,127 but it's a little late 296 00:07:10,127 --> 00:07:10,968 for that 297 00:07:10,968 --> 00:07:11,990 unless they have 298 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:13,255 projects ready. And I'm 299 00:07:13,255 --> 00:07:14,574 not sure they 300 00:07:14,574 --> 00:07:15,994 are, but we'll find out. 301 00:07:15,994 --> 00:07:18,676 Here's the news regarding 302 00:07:18,676 --> 00:07:19,623 421 and 94. 303 00:07:19,623 --> 00:07:20,547 Okay. Do you have any 304 00:07:20,547 --> 00:07:22,301 questions for Matt? 305 00:07:22,301 --> 00:07:24,022 OK. Update 306 00:07:24,022 --> 00:07:27,723 on KIP TIF. 307 00:07:27,723 --> 00:07:28,442 The technology park with an 308 00:07:28,442 --> 00:07:29,422 overlay 309 00:07:29,422 --> 00:07:30,272 zoning area was 310 00:07:30,272 --> 00:07:31,449 approved by the planning 311 00:07:31,449 --> 00:07:32,168 commission and 312 00:07:32,168 --> 00:07:34,932 commissioners. And what does 313 00:07:34,932 --> 00:07:39,241 this mean for us? This 314 00:07:39,241 --> 00:07:40,389 means that the zone 315 00:07:40,389 --> 00:07:41,467 within Kingsbury, 316 00:07:41,467 --> 00:07:42,650 category M2 (heavy 317 00:07:42,650 --> 00:07:43,658 industry), 318 00:07:43,658 --> 00:07:46,093 allows for the construction of 319 00:07:47,101 --> 00:07:48,284 digital 320 00:07:48,284 --> 00:07:49,606 infrastructure, which 321 00:07:49,606 --> 00:07:50,997 means data, energy 322 00:07:50,997 --> 00:07:57,007 and batteries, in accordance with the requirements of the zoning overlay. A battery project is currently 323 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,530 underway in Kingsbury, near the First Line. 324 00:08:01,885 --> 00:08:02,742 They are currently in the 325 00:08:02,742 --> 00:08:03,757 design stage and I 326 00:08:03,757 --> 00:08:04,995 have met with the 327 00:08:04,995 --> 00:08:06,232 planning department before 328 00:08:06,232 --> 00:08:07,469 and they have the right to 329 00:08:07,469 --> 00:08:08,231 build 330 00:08:08,231 --> 00:08:08,929 as this 331 00:08:08,929 --> 00:08:10,039 area has already been 332 00:08:10,039 --> 00:08:14,950 zoned M2. There will be 333 00:08:15,976 --> 00:08:18,517 some activity happening in Kingsbury. 334 00:08:18,517 --> 00:08:19,696 In the coming weeks, 335 00:08:19,696 --> 00:08:20,564 some contracting 336 00:08:20,564 --> 00:08:21,092 companies 337 00:08:21,092 --> 00:08:22,147 will conduct 338 00:08:22,147 --> 00:08:23,694 due diligence there. 339 00:08:23,694 --> 00:08:25,649 So some equipment may appear in Kingsbury 340 00:08:25,678 --> 00:08:26,834 ; not that 341 00:08:26,834 --> 00:08:27,722 most people 342 00:08:27,722 --> 00:08:28,611 know where it is or 343 00:08:28,611 --> 00:08:29,500 can see what's 344 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:30,507 inside, but there 345 00:08:30,507 --> 00:08:32,781 might be people there. 346 00:08:32,781 --> 00:08:34,132 was a lot of discussion 347 00:08:34,132 --> 00:08:35,379 about land sales, 348 00:08:35,379 --> 00:08:36,626 land transactions, 349 00:08:36,626 --> 00:08:39,173 etc. I think the fact that 350 00:08:39,173 --> 00:08:40,054 the county 351 00:08:40,054 --> 00:08:41,326 has clearly identified where exactly it 352 00:08:41,326 --> 00:08:42,044 wants to see 353 00:08:42,044 --> 00:08:43,349 digital 354 00:08:43,349 --> 00:08:44,621 infrastructure built is very 355 00:08:44,621 --> 00:08:46,713 beneficial for the market. It 356 00:08:46,713 --> 00:08:47,660 also effectively 357 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:49,856 directs people to the 358 00:08:49,890 --> 00:08:51,140 Kingsbury Industrial Park, which 359 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:52,120 I believe 360 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,370 was 361 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:54,384 the idea of ​​most 362 00:08:54,384 --> 00:08:55,600 people involved in the 363 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,744 development from the beginning. We can't do anything about 364 00:08:57,772 --> 00:08:58,844 people who don't 365 00:08:58,844 --> 00:08:59,862 want something, but there's a better 366 00:08:59,862 --> 00:09:00,824 way to do it—to 367 00:09:00,824 --> 00:09:01,402 direct 368 00:09:01,402 --> 00:09:02,502 investors to where they 369 00:09:02,502 --> 00:09:03,620 should be investing. 370 00:09:03,620 --> 00:09:04,902 I believe the district has 371 00:09:04,902 --> 00:09:06,615 achieved this. Whether 372 00:09:06,615 --> 00:09:07,857 anything worthwhile will come of this 373 00:09:07,857 --> 00:09:10,067 remains to be seen. The market 374 00:09:10,067 --> 00:09:10,725 exists, and we 375 00:09:10,725 --> 00:09:11,483 continue to 376 00:09:11,483 --> 00:09:12,504 work with 377 00:09:12,504 --> 00:09:13,821 any companies that 378 00:09:13,821 --> 00:09:17,024 contact us. 379 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:21,370 OK. Have a question? 380 00:09:21,370 --> 00:09:25,294 Good. 35,194? 381 00:09:25,294 --> 00:09:25,960 Before we 382 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,101 go on, you know, 383 00:09:27,101 --> 00:09:28,370 we're getting request after 384 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:29,480 request about 385 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,686 wildlife in Kingsbury 386 00:09:30,686 --> 00:09:31,954 because people think we're 387 00:09:31,954 --> 00:09:32,938 involved in that 388 00:09:32,938 --> 00:09:33,921 proposed 389 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:36,408 land swap. So 390 00:09:36,408 --> 00:09:37,223 if anyone 391 00:09:37,223 --> 00:09:38,400 asks you a question, 392 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,607 know this: we have nothing to do with 393 00:09:39,607 --> 00:09:40,391 it 394 00:09:40,391 --> 00:09:41,666 . This is not our 395 00:09:41,666 --> 00:09:42,851 land, this is state 396 00:09:42,851 --> 00:09:44,282 land, zone eight. We 397 00:09:44,282 --> 00:09:45,217 have nothing to do with this 398 00:09:45,217 --> 00:09:46,370 . 399 00:09:46,370 --> 00:09:47,209 No 400 00:09:47,209 --> 00:09:48,078 non-disclosure agreements, 401 00:09:48,078 --> 00:09:49,208 no agreements 402 00:09:49,208 --> 00:09:50,090 —nothing. 403 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,145 Just so you all know 404 00:09:51,145 --> 00:09:52,004 . 405 00:09:52,004 --> 00:09:52,804 Of course. 406 00:09:52,804 --> 00:09:53,192 Yes. 407 00:09:53,192 --> 00:09:54,429 I think this is important. 408 00:09:54,429 --> 00:09:55,546 Of course. There are 409 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:56,389 no non-disclosure agreements 410 00:09:56,389 --> 00:09:56,909 . 411 00:09:56,909 --> 00:09:57,882 There are no non-disclosure agreements 412 00:09:57,882 --> 00:09:58,007 . 413 00:09:58,007 --> 00:09:58,763 Certainly. 414 00:09:58,763 --> 00:09:59,984 We do not own or 415 00:09:59,984 --> 00:10:00,908 control this 416 00:10:00,908 --> 00:10:03,118 territory. It's not that 417 00:10:03,118 --> 00:10:04,283 the county hasn't tried 418 00:10:04,283 --> 00:10:05,380 to get this land 419 00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:06,179 before, because we have 420 00:10:06,179 --> 00:10:08,441 . But 421 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:09,478 nothing just 422 00:10:09,478 --> 00:10:12,787 happened. And again 423 00:10:12,787 --> 00:10:14,230 , there are many requests, but 424 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:15,637 we don't have any agreements 425 00:10:15,637 --> 00:10:18,556 . When you do everything 426 00:10:18,556 --> 00:10:19,648 right, there really is 427 00:10:19,648 --> 00:10:20,871 nothing to hide. 428 00:10:20,871 --> 00:10:22,362 This is our position 429 00:10:22,362 --> 00:10:23,227 . I 430 00:10:23,227 --> 00:10:24,319 completely agree, 431 00:10:24,319 --> 00:10:25,758 thanks for the clarification. 432 00:10:25,758 --> 00:10:27,349 Okay, now 433 00:10:27,349 --> 00:10:31,200 let's move on to 3594. 434 00:10:31,238 --> 00:10:33,728 Things aren't going so well for us, for us, for us there. 435 00:10:33,728 --> 00:10:34,715 Not as much 436 00:10:34,715 --> 00:10:35,829 progress as in other 437 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:36,280 areas. 438 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,512 Not as much progress as I would like to 439 00:10:37,512 --> 00:10:39,942 see. 440 00:10:39,942 --> 00:10:41,231 We need a project of the 441 00:10:41,231 --> 00:10:42,102 appropriate 442 00:10:42,102 --> 00:10:43,078 scale, as we 443 00:10:43,078 --> 00:10:44,437 proposed for that 444 00:10:44,437 --> 00:10:45,692 corner, to attract 445 00:10:45,692 --> 00:10:46,981 TIF funds and encourage 446 00:10:46,981 --> 00:10:47,992 Michigan City to 447 00:10:47,992 --> 00:10:50,827 participate financially. 448 00:10:50,827 --> 00:10:51,780 Yes. 449 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:52,667 And until that 450 00:10:52,667 --> 00:10:54,919 happens, we will be where 451 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:55,997 most communities are: 452 00:10:55,997 --> 00:10:57,645 if communications are not brought to the site 453 00:10:57,677 --> 00:10:58,723 , people will 454 00:10:58,723 --> 00:11:00,375 not go there. So 455 00:11:00,375 --> 00:11:01,092 she'll just 456 00:11:01,092 --> 00:11:01,940 play around and play 457 00:11:01,940 --> 00:11:03,559 around. So, 458 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,899 you know, we keep our 459 00:11:04,899 --> 00:11:06,998 ears open. I 460 00:11:06,998 --> 00:11:10,394 know that...Yes, to be honest 461 00:11:10,394 --> 00:11:11,856 , I have nothing 462 00:11:11,856 --> 00:11:13,027 . You know, that 463 00:11:13,027 --> 00:11:14,155 small 464 00:11:14,155 --> 00:11:15,033 hotel owner is starting 465 00:11:15,033 --> 00:11:16,286 to realize that the overall 466 00:11:16,286 --> 00:11:16,819 cost of 467 00:11:16,819 --> 00:11:17,728 maintaining 468 00:11:17,728 --> 00:11:19,051 the project is unprofitable. 469 00:11:19,051 --> 00:11:20,771 Right. 470 00:11:20,771 --> 00:11:21,885 And I think the engineer 471 00:11:21,885 --> 00:11:23,000 finally understood 472 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,249 why the county's position was to 473 00:11:24,249 --> 00:11:25,566 take a holistic 474 00:11:25,566 --> 00:11:26,883 approach: to provide 475 00:11:26,883 --> 00:11:28,167 enough capacity 476 00:11:28,167 --> 00:11:29,923 for the interchange so that 477 00:11:29,957 --> 00:11:31,206 not one 478 00:11:31,206 --> 00:11:32,523 project could be implemented, but more, and it 479 00:11:32,523 --> 00:11:33,888 would pay off. I think 480 00:11:33,888 --> 00:11:34,821 they're just now 481 00:11:34,821 --> 00:11:35,631 realizing it, but 482 00:11:35,631 --> 00:11:36,319 sometimes you have to 483 00:11:36,319 --> 00:11:37,301 let the private 484 00:11:37,301 --> 00:11:38,062 sector figure it out on its 485 00:11:38,062 --> 00:11:38,948 own. 486 00:11:38,948 --> 00:11:40,302 I think they've arrived. 487 00:11:40,302 --> 00:11:41,797 So that's all I have 488 00:11:41,797 --> 00:11:41,936 . 489 00:11:41,936 --> 00:11:43,385 Perfectly. So, we have an 490 00:11:43,385 --> 00:11:44,775 item in the "New 491 00:11:44,775 --> 00:11:47,618 Cases" section. Is there? 492 00:11:47,618 --> 00:11:48,350 No. 493 00:11:48,350 --> 00:11:49,904 New cases? 494 00:11:49,904 --> 00:11:51,113 This was 495 00:11:51,113 --> 00:11:51,978 Campion's property. 496 00:11:51,978 --> 00:11:56,034 Yes. That...Yes, in a 497 00:11:56,034 --> 00:11:57,286 closed meeting 498 00:11:57,286 --> 00:11:58,275 we discussed 499 00:11:58,275 --> 00:12:00,326 real estate. I 500 00:12:00,326 --> 00:12:01,837 will contact the company 501 00:12:01,837 --> 00:12:02,690 that made 502 00:12:02,690 --> 00:12:04,080 the offer. This gentleman 503 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,335 was here today. I 504 00:12:05,335 --> 00:12:06,147 explained 505 00:12:06,147 --> 00:12:07,467 the situation to him and said that 506 00:12:07,467 --> 00:12:08,415 we had ideas, which was 507 00:12:08,415 --> 00:12:09,667 entirely permissible under the 508 00:12:09,667 --> 00:12:10,830 statute. I just 509 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:12,047 want to make sure 510 00:12:12,047 --> 00:12:13,122 everyone knows about it. 511 00:12:13,122 --> 00:12:13,881 Yes. 512 00:12:13,881 --> 00:12:15,045 This is part of our 513 00:12:15,045 --> 00:12:16,456 process for what is allowed for 514 00:12:16,456 --> 00:12:17,685 real estate. 515 00:12:17,685 --> 00:12:19,119 So, the reconstruction commission 516 00:12:19,145 --> 00:12:20,048 went through the 517 00:12:20,048 --> 00:12:21,105 proposal submission procedure. 518 00:12:21,105 --> 00:12:22,239 No proposal 519 00:12:22,239 --> 00:12:23,462 was accepted. This gives 520 00:12:23,462 --> 00:12:24,165 you the right to 521 00:12:24,165 --> 00:12:25,463 negotiate. Going forward, 522 00:12:25,463 --> 00:12:26,124 we have one 523 00:12:26,124 --> 00:12:27,647 interested party. 524 00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:28,494 We will continue 525 00:12:28,494 --> 00:12:29,472 negotiations on 526 00:12:29,472 --> 00:12:32,715 this. And when an 527 00:12:32,715 --> 00:12:33,865 acceptable 528 00:12:33,865 --> 00:12:35,047 solution appears, we will present 529 00:12:35,047 --> 00:12:36,229 it to the council 530 00:12:36,229 --> 00:12:39,416 at a meeting. 531 00:12:39,416 --> 00:12:40,723 Perfectly. 532 00:12:40,723 --> 00:12:41,349 OK. 533 00:12:41,349 --> 00:12:42,634 Good. Thank you. 534 00:12:42,634 --> 00:12:43,802 Do any board members have any questions or 535 00:12:43,802 --> 00:12:46,165 comments 536 00:12:46,165 --> 00:12:48,315 ? None. 537 00:12:48,315 --> 00:12:49,050 Thank you. 538 00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:51,669 OK. If there is nothing else 539 00:12:51,669 --> 00:12:52,886 , 540 00:12:52,886 --> 00:12:54,039 I propose to adjourn the 541 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:54,748 meeting. I 542 00:12:54,748 --> 00:12:55,703 support. 543 00:12:55,703 --> 00:12:57,104 The meeting is closed. 544 00:12:57,104 --> 00:12:57,946 Those who are "in favor", please 545 00:12:57,946 --> 00:12:58,788 vote by 546 00:12:58,788 --> 00:12:59,731 saying "yes". 547 00:12:59,731 --> 00:13:01,428 Yes.