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[0:22] Very good. I am going to open the agenda
[0:26] for the LaPorte County Animal Shelter Advisory Committee meeting
[0:30] for Thursday, October 1,
[0:33] 2026 at 4:49 p.m. m. I'm Brett Kessler
[0:36] , the vice president, because our
[0:37] president is in Wisconsin at the
[0:39] World Dairy Expo. Please stand
[0:42] for the Pledge of Allegiance.
[0:46] Mr. Handley.
[0:48] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[0:50] United States of America and to the
[0:52] republic for which it stands, one nation
[0:55] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:58] justice for all.
[1:04] Who is our secretary?
[1:09] Are you ready to take attendance? Take
[1:10] attendance.
[1:13] I had
[1:14] never had to do it before.
[1:15] Oh. Very well, simply turn around
[1:21] the table and indicate that you are here.
[1:23] Amanda Lainer is present.
[1:25] Adam Handley, LaPorte County Sheriff's Office
[1:26] .
[1:28] Lisa Balaszi, generally present.
[1:30] County Commissioner Joe Haney,
[1:32] present.
[1:32] Director Brooke Heady-Bowen.
[1:35] Brett Kessler, Vice President,
[1:37] County Council Representative.
[1:40] Very well, let's move on to item number four in
[1:42] our minutes, approval of the
[1:44] minutes of the June meeting. Does
[1:46] anyone have any additions or
[1:47] corrections to those minutes?
[2:05] Motion to approve.
[2:06] Motion to be approved by Ms. Land?
[2:08] Seconded by Dr. Clovis. Any
[2:11] discussion? Since none are seen, all
[2:13] those who are in favor should indicate this
[2:15] by saying "Yes".
[2:16] Those who oppose it? The motion is
[2:18] approved. Is
[2:26] Mrs. Land still there or not?
[2:28] Yes, I think so.
[2:29] Mrs. Land, are you still there? Yes.
[2:31] Okay. I'm sorry. We
[2:33] also have Luann Troxel on the
[2:35] phone. So, to be
[2:37] clear. Very good,
[2:39] shelter statistics, Ms. Kegley.
[2:41] Very good. In September, we received 28
[2:46] dogs and 36 cats at the shelter. We didn't
[2:49] have any other animal species.
[2:52] We returned 12 dogs to their owners,
[2:55] we did not return any cats to their owners.
[2:59] Ten dogs were adopted, double the number from
[3:01] last month, so it was great.
[3:03] Adoptions of 19 cats. We have
[3:06] transferred six dogs to other
[3:08] facilities, and 23 cats to other
[3:11] facilities. No dog died
[3:15] under our care. Yes, a
[3:16] cat died while in our care.
[3:18] A dog and 11 cats were
[3:21] humanely euthanized. As of yesterday, at the
[3:25] end of yesterday, we had 21 dogs at
[3:28] home, 24 cats, seven dogs in
[3:30] foster homes, 54 cats in
[3:33] foster homes, and our
[3:35] live animal release rate by the end of the month was
[3:38] 84%. Ten loose animals were reported
[3:42] , along with four bites, seven cases
[3:46] of negligence and cruelty, and 11 other
[3:49] complaints, bringing the total to 32
[3:52] complaints. Does
[3:55] anyone have any questions about the
[3:56] shelter's statistical reports?
[3:58] What's included in others, just out of
[4:00] curiosity?
[4:01] Well, usually it's our
[4:02] chickens and our turkeys.
[4:05] Peacocks occasionally.
[4:07] Yes, I mean, if we had anything
[4:09] else, it would all fall apart like
[4:10] rabbits or turtles or,
[4:12] I mean, other complaints.
[4:14] Oh, uh, it could be many
[4:16] different things. Aggression, noise complaints
[4:19] . I only listed these three
[4:24] specifically because they are the ones we
[4:26] receive most frequently out of all
[4:28] . I'm just
[4:29] curious.
[4:30] And then, of the 10 dog adoptions
[4:33] , some of them were of a mother and
[4:35] five puppies.
[4:37] So far, only the
[4:38] mother has been adopted.
[4:39] Oh, okay. Alright.
[4:40] Well, owners have been found, but they
[4:42] weren't neutered, so they have
[4:44] n't been adopted yet.
[4:46] But no, that was a really
[4:47] good case.
[4:49] Yes.
[4:52] So, does anyone have any more
[4:53] shelter statistics? Brooke
[4:56] , if you continue with the
[4:57] staffing.
[4:59] Very good. My update is that we're still doing
[5:02] well. Four
[5:04] full-time positions and including our
[5:06] contracted part-time position, that
[5:08] makes five part-time employees.
[5:11] Okay. Pending issues,
[5:13] 501c3 foundation update.
[5:17] Yes, I have good news. The
[5:19] presentation will take place today. If it's not
[5:22] done today, it won't be done on
[5:23] time; it will be tomorrow. The
[5:26] DiMartino County Prosecutor, in his
[5:28] private capacity, will handle this for
[5:30] us free of charge. It will be
[5:33] presented today or tomorrow. He is
[5:35] scheduled to do it today, which is
[5:36] good. Everything is going well in the meantime,
[5:40] like everything else we do outside
[5:41] of court. Yes, there it is
[5:44] .
[5:44] Excellent. And that will make those funds,
[5:47] to which people donate their last
[5:49] wishes or whatever, much
[5:52] easier for the
[5:54] small animal shelter staff to access and
[5:56] use to help the community
[5:58] and animals of Polk County.
[6:02] Yes, and it will also allow the
[6:04] foundation to go out and do many more
[6:06] donation campaigns and things like that. There
[6:09] is a limitation here, you know,
[6:11] regarding the current status of the shelter.
[6:13] So it's going to make things much easier
[6:16] . Hopefully, it will also bring many
[6:17] more donations.
[6:18] Yes. Excellent. Very good. We continue
[6:22] with the pending issues on the agenda:
[6:25] the new ordinance 2026-3.
[6:31] That was the ordinance on
[6:35] community management of cats, capture,
[6:36] sterilization and return, and
[6:37] shelter sterilization. Well, that
[6:40] was approved by the commissioners and it
[6:43] passed. Well, that's already in effect.
[6:46] We, as a shelter, do not currently have a
[6:48] program for the
[6:50] return of spay/neuter services to the
[6:52] shelter. However, this simply
[6:55] aligns better with
[6:56] current practices in
[6:58] Polk County.
[6:59] Okay. I had several questions from
[7:02] some people who were curious
[7:04] about what this meant. As you rightly
[7:06] said, it's about adapting
[7:07] county ordinances to best
[7:09] practices in light of what's happening,
[7:11] and also aligning those ordinances
[7:13] with some of the amazing
[7:15] rescue groups we have here in the
[7:16] county to make sure everyone
[7:18] is on the same page. So,
[7:20] nothing really changed apart from the
[7:21] ordinances. Everything that was
[7:23] happening is still, you know, functioning
[7:24] normally. We simply aligned
[7:26] our ordinances and brought them out of the
[7:28] Stone Age; not that they were in
[7:29] the Stone Age, but they needed an
[7:31] update.
[7:32] In the undergrowth, not on the rocks.
[7:33] Yes, there you have it. Very
[7:35] good. Thank you so much for that. About the
[7:37] work trucks.
[7:43] I could talk a little. I was going
[7:44] to say that I knew you had something. I
[7:47] went and spoke with our excellent
[7:48] workers we have in the shop,
[7:50] Sam, who drives those trucks a lot. And
[7:53] he said, you know, honestly, both
[7:55] are rapidly approaching the end
[7:58] of their useful life. Obviously, he
[8:00] would suggest that the truck with the highest
[8:02] mileage should be the first to leave.
[8:04] And I think that's the newest truck
[8:05] , but it has more miles on it. It has
[8:08] already undergone some
[8:09] fairly significant repairs. But both have
[8:14] high mileage, so they haven't
[8:17] reached the point where it's not a
[8:20] rip-off, but they're getting close. So I
[8:23] think it would be wise if
[8:25] we at least developed a plan for one
[8:27] vehicle, what that vehicle would be,
[8:30] what the cost is going to be, and then, you
[8:32] know, I think two
[8:34] vehicles are probably going to be difficult, but
[8:36] at least we developed a plan for one.
[8:38] Good.
[8:39] We'll try to get it up and running maybe
[8:40] next year.
[8:41] And I think we've talked about this in
[8:43] previous meetings, probably a
[8:45] van of some kind would be a
[8:47] better option than a truck.
[8:49] Obviously we have the
[8:51] livestock trailer here that might need a
[8:53] truck at some point, but we have
[8:56] county road or county maintenance trucks
[8:58] that, if we needed to move the
[9:00] trailer,
[9:00] we could do that, right?
[9:01] We can do it.
[9:02] OK.
[9:03] But vans would be much more
[9:05] accessible, much easier for
[9:07] cages, with
[9:10] climate-related temperature control, they would make much more sense.
[9:13] Well, we haven't reached that
[9:16] point yet, but as we
[9:19] see it, you know, some kind of Isuzu,
[9:22] Ford, whatever. You know, look at it
[9:25] that way. Thank you for
[9:32] going out and talking to them. Does anyone
[9:36] else have any other
[9:37] pending matters that we haven't included on
[9:39] the agenda? It
[9:41] probably covers the memorandum of
[9:42] understanding here. Do
[9:44] you want to add it to your to-do list
[9:44] ?
[9:45] Yes, I could too.
[9:46] Then, D will add a memorandum of
[9:50] understanding with our current
[9:54] shelter liaison. I don't know what to say. That
[9:56] works according to that memorandum of
[9:57] understanding.
[9:58] Very good. I would make a motion to
[10:00] approve the memorandum of understanding
[10:02] here between the animal shelter and
[10:04] Ms. Boyd.
[10:06] Support. I'm sorry.
[10:08] We have a motion from Mr. Haney,
[10:10] seconded by Mr. Hannon. Debate.
[10:16] Madam President, do you have anything to
[10:17] say about this, or is this okay?
[10:19] I'm fine.
[10:20] OK. With no further discussion, all
[10:24] those who are in favor of signing the
[10:25] memorandum of understanding until
[10:27] 31/12/2026 with Ms. Boyd and the
[10:31] animal shelter, please indicate this by
[10:33] saying yes.
[10:34] Yes.
[10:34] Those who oppose it?
[10:35] Yes. Since no
[10:37] one is present, the motion is approved.
[10:39] Thank you. Very good. Let's move on to new
[10:50] matters. Air conditioning units
[10:52] . I
[10:54] understand we have about three
[10:56] air conditioning units here,
[10:58] all dedicated to different parts of the
[11:00] shelter. One of them is down.
[11:03] Cool down, I mean, three places: the
[11:10] laundry room, the adoptable cat room,
[11:12] and our meeting
[11:15] and welcome area. The
[11:19] building maintenance team is working on getting us the
[11:21] quotes. We've received two
[11:23] quotes, but they're still
[11:25] waiting for the
[11:26] third. Okay. Okay. And well, it's a
[11:29] two-ton air conditioning unit
[11:31] , we're waiting for those
[11:33] quotes. We may have another
[11:36] participant from the county who is
[11:38] willing to step in and help with
[11:40] funding, so we wouldn't have to
[11:42] take money from our own funds.
[11:45] We just have to wait for the
[11:47] budgets and then we would have to
[11:49] contact that person, and
[11:50] Brooke and I have already talked about that, and
[11:52] then we had to follow the
[11:54] proper channels through the county to
[11:56] get them. If budgets come in,
[11:59] I think they will come in and I think you
[12:00] think they will come in, and I think we'll
[12:02] probably agree on
[12:04] that. So, I hope that doesn't
[12:08] involve any out-of-pocket expenses for the
[12:10] shelter itself. Is it
[12:12] for a new unit or for repair?
[12:13] Replace it.
[12:15] Yes. It's a complete replacement. This is beyond
[12:18] repair. I'll just say
[12:19] that I'm not surprised. But
[12:21] none of that is new, not by a long shot.
[12:23] No.
[12:25] Okay. Well, with that, thank you, Brooke.
[12:28] The city of La Porte does not have an
[12:30] animal control officer.
[12:32] Yes, for anyone who doesn't know, they
[12:34] no longer have an animal control officer
[12:37] there. They only had one. Well
[12:41] , that position is currently vacant.
[12:44] We are helping in any way we can
[12:46] . I would ask,
[12:49] when did that happen?
[12:51] A couple of weeks ago. It was the week I
[12:54] was on vacation.
[12:56] Okay. Well, it
[12:58] never fails.
[13:00] How did you finish the count? How many
[13:04] dogs and cats do we have in La Porte City
[13:07] ? Thank you. La Porte City. Well, it seems we
[13:19] have about 35 now. And well,
[13:24] we've adopted a couple since the last
[13:26] time you and I talked about it, but
[13:29] yes, we have about 35 animals in La
[13:32] Porte City currently. Many of them
[13:35] are in foster homes. Because
[13:37] they are cats, kittens.
[13:41] Very good. Are they planning to fill that
[13:43] position? The city of LaPorte, do we
[13:45] know it? It is
[13:47] currently being debated.
[13:48] Okay, it's currently being debated.
[13:52] Currently, the county is in
[13:53] discussions with the city
[13:54] regarding them. Obviously, they don't have
[13:57] their own shelter, so we take in
[13:59] many of their animals in their own
[14:00] incorporated municipality. Therefore,
[14:02] they need...If they are going to continue
[14:03] using us, there must be some kind
[14:05] of reimbursement or memorandum of
[14:06] understanding between the city and the
[14:08] county. And right now we're in
[14:10] discussions with the city,
[14:11] preliminary discussions to
[14:12] figure out exactly how
[14:13] that reimbursement structure is going to work.
[14:16] And one thing that's probably
[14:18] worth mentioning and bringing up as we
[14:20] go along is that they don't currently have
[14:22] an animal control officer. Yes,
[14:26] I hope they fill that position and do what is
[14:27] necessary about it. If something gets
[14:29] blocked there, what would be the
[14:31] board's or shelter's feelings about it
[14:34] ? I thought about this in the past
[14:36] because your previous animal control officer
[14:38] worked part-time
[14:40] , as I understand it,
[14:42] right?
[14:42] Was it a full-time position?
[14:44] Full-time?
[14:45] Yes, it was a full-time position.
[14:46] Was it full-time? Okay. OK
[14:48] . I remember that there were some who
[14:50] used that person, I think, for
[14:51] half animal control and half something else
[14:53] . They
[14:54] split it up, or
[14:55] she would work in
[14:57] code enforcement and then in
[14:58] court. I worked in
[15:00] code compliance.
[15:00] But he worked full time. As
[15:02] far as
[15:02] I know, he worked full time. In
[15:04] other words, without speaking to Dermody, I'm almost
[15:06] certain that she worked
[15:07] full-time.
[15:08] That's what I always understood when
[15:10] I spoke to her, that she worked
[15:11] full time. I think we need to be
[15:16] very careful. Because they will try
[15:19] with all their might to make us do their
[15:21] work and not pay for it.
[15:24] We have made an extra effort. They've been
[15:26] so generous over the years
[15:28] with New Carlisle, Michigan City,
[15:30] Kingsbury Heights, and Westville, and yeah,
[15:32] so
[15:34] everyone else is like, "Well, they're
[15:35] doing it, so we
[15:37] can do it too."
[15:39] And we don't have the staff.
[15:40] No, not even space. We don't have it. They're
[15:44] a municipality, and one of the things that, you
[15:46] know, for anyone who tunes in
[15:48] and sees, uh, you know, the
[15:49] municipal tax you pay, if you live in the city
[15:51] , you pay higher taxes. And one of
[15:54] the responsibilities of cities
[15:56] is animal control. Therefore
[15:58] , they can handle it
[15:59] internally or they could outsource it.
[16:00] For example, if they didn't want to deal with
[16:02] that, they could hire the county. Not
[16:05] only as a physical shelter to
[16:06] house their animals;
[16:08] They could also hire animal control
[16:10] through us. But they would have to
[16:13] , you know, hire us and pay us
[16:15] something to provide
[16:17] animal control in the city of LaPorte.
[16:19] Again, as if
[16:20] you were paying more to the city, you are
[16:22] paying. If you live in the county, you're
[16:24] paying about 1.7 out of every 100. If you live
[16:25] in the city, you're paying almost three
[16:27] out of every 100. So, you know, that
[16:29] extra money you're paying as a
[16:30] city resident goes toward...
[16:32] Some of that should go toward
[16:33] animal control. So, it
[16:35] 's not like...Yeah, it's not like, you know,
[16:37] when you talk about 911 or
[16:39] emergency medical services, where it's something that
[16:40] the county provides countywide
[16:42] . You know, for the
[16:43] LaPorte County Animal Shelter, we're here
[16:44] for unincorporated areas
[16:46] , not incorporated municipalities.
[16:47] The municipalities obtain their own
[16:49] funding for that. They're not
[16:50] using it for that. They should
[16:52] hire us and pay us for that, because it's
[16:53] not right that unincorporated areas
[16:55] , you know, subsidize the
[16:57] city in that way, when
[16:58] city residents are already
[17:00] paying for that too. Anyway, I
[17:01] just want to make sure that
[17:02] was clear to the public.
[17:03] Brooke, I appreciate you and your staff
[17:05] taking care of those
[17:07] extra animals in the meantime, and
[17:09] providing that service to ensure
[17:11] the animals are well looked after,
[17:13] and it shows that, you know, we
[17:15] should all want to be leaders in everything we
[17:17] do. We are demonstrating that through
[17:20] the care of animals.
[17:22] So we appreciate it.
[17:24] Oh, that's right. That brings me to my other
[17:26] point about all of that. Would there be
[17:28] interest if the city—and I have no
[17:30] idea if the city wants to do this
[17:31] or not, but just as we're in
[17:33] negotiations with them to house
[17:35] their animals—La Porte County
[17:40] would be willing to provide them with an
[17:42] animal control officer if they
[17:44] reimbursed us for it and hired us
[17:46] for that job? I mean
[17:47] , they would have to pay the
[17:48] full salary.
[17:49] Yes. Yes.
[17:50] they would. Yes. Yes. It will be a
[17:51] full-time position. That can't
[17:53] come from any of his other positions.
[17:55] Can you hire someone else to
[17:56] do that?
[17:57] If they pay. If the city pays for it, then they don't
[17:59] even have to
[18:01] do it. If they want a
[18:02] comprehensive solution for the animal control period
[18:04] within the
[18:05] city limits, perhaps they could come up with a
[18:07] figure.
[18:07] Yes. Yes. Yes, there should be one. I
[18:09] think it would be worth discussing. I'm
[18:10] going to send them the discussion. It would be
[18:12] very interesting to see it. Well, I
[18:14] was already debating whether whoever they
[18:16] brought on board, we could help
[18:18] train them. Well, if that's something
[18:22] we're considering, then I think
[18:24] the biggest problem is the number of
[18:26] animals coming from La Porte City and
[18:29] what they're going to do with the animals they do
[18:31] n't have a place for. So, it does
[18:35] n't solve the problem if we can
[18:37] give them an animal control officer
[18:39] , but that doesn't solve their
[18:40] problem.
[18:41] Oh, yes, it would have to be both,
[18:43] but yes, I'm just
[18:44] dropping it.
[18:45] Yes, if we wanted to, you know, if there
[18:47] was interest in taking it on. If there
[18:49] were one, obviously we would...
[18:50] That might be worth discussing.
[18:52] Of course.
[18:54] Very good. Anything more on that at this
[18:56] time? Good. Moving on to number nine
[19:00] on our agenda,
[19:01] public disclosure. Updates on
[19:05] past events, creature of the
[19:06] week.
[19:07] Yes, the creature of the week
[19:09] is back. Well, we have a
[19:13] slot approximately once a month
[19:16] on Eagle 96.7 FM. Last month
[19:21] we talked about Earl, who was finally
[19:25] adopted and went to his new home.
[19:31] Tomorrow is the next one. At 7:45 in
[19:34] the morning we will talk about a dog that has been
[19:37] here for a while. It's called
[19:39] Biscotti. Do you want me to move on to the
[19:44] next thing?
[19:45] Go straight to them.
[19:46] Okay. We went to the movies at
[19:51] Stone Lake Park on June 26th. We didn't receive
[19:58] any donations, or very few, while we
[20:00] were there, but it was still a
[20:02] good exposure for our dog,
[20:04] who at that time was called Maddie.
[20:07] He left. He had a good time. She loved
[20:10] all children and now she has
[20:12] officially gone home too. On June 28th
[20:15] we had the
[20:18] LaPorte Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram car show.
[20:22] We received over $700 from
[20:25] donations at the booth and from
[20:28] car show tickets. The
[20:36] pop-up VR event we did, I'm sorry I don't
[20:39] have a date here, but it rained
[20:42] a bit on us, but we were brave. The
[20:47] assistant director, myself, Dr. Pink, and a couple
[20:50] of people from the All Creature Features
[20:53] Animal Hospital joined us,
[20:55] and even in the pouring rain,
[20:58] we implanted microchips in 12 animals.
[21:04] The Bark and Bloom event took place
[21:06] at Blue Family Farms
[21:08] last weekend, on September 26th. Again, it
[21:12] was a good exhibition, a welcome
[21:14] break from the shelter for some of
[21:15] our dogs. Snow White and Lucky
[21:18] Penny were able to leave and take a
[21:20] break from the shelter. And that's all
[21:25] about disclosure.
[21:26] Okay. And now, updates on
[21:28] future events. I see four there.
[21:30] Are you planning to do the same thing for Halloween
[21:32] as you did with us last year
[21:33] ? In
[21:35] fact, it will take place on the same day as
[21:37] another event. Alright
[21:38] .
[21:39] Yes.
[21:39] But you can go ahead and talk about
[21:40] the rest.
[21:41] Well, Aurelio's Pizza, its owner
[21:43] contacted us and now they
[21:46] are printing, well, they have a
[21:48] store to which we send flyers.
[21:51] They pay for the flyers and
[21:53] are adding them to their pizza boxes.
[21:55] So some of our
[21:57] adoptable animals are being exhibited in that
[21:58] way.
[21:59] That's great.
[22:01] Auto Park Ford of LaPorte. So,
[22:05] they're organizing an event. This is
[22:07] the event that will take place on the same
[22:09] night as the Halloween event, or the
[22:11] same day, sorry. But on
[22:13] October 24th at 10:00 a.m. m. at 1:00 p.m. m.
[22:17] There will be raffles there. There will be
[22:20] food trucks there. The profits will be
[22:22] split 50/50 between us and
[22:24] Giant Paw Prints. I hope we can go
[22:29] there and set up another
[22:31] microchip station and also show
[22:35] some of our dogs and cats.
[22:38] Excellent. It's a
[22:40] day holiday for dogs, so it's
[22:42] going pretty well. Our friends
[22:44] at Soil and Water and Purdue Extension have been
[22:46] doing this for several months. They
[22:49] normally bring the dogs to their
[22:51] office once a week, but now
[22:54] the LaPorte County Courthouse
[22:56] is also involved and they bring one
[22:59] dog every Thursday and another every Friday
[23:02] .
[23:03] Brilliant. The
[23:05] dogs go outside and receive the attention they
[23:08] so desperately need, and get away from the
[23:10] stressful environment.
[23:13] Where are you going to put the
[23:14] horse division with that? It sounds fantastic. I
[23:18] was also talking to the
[23:20] sheriff's shop and I told them, "You guys
[23:22] need to have a dog around
[23:24] here too." Photos with Santa Claus. Pet
[23:29] Supplies Plus has already started
[23:31] planning for this on December 12th
[23:33] . They already have Santa Claus ready and
[23:39] he will be there.
[23:42] Excellent. With that, that's the
[23:47] public outreach portion of our agenda
[23:49] . Does anyone have anything else to add
[23:51] to the public disclosure at this
[23:52] time?
[23:53] Yes, I...
[23:55] I'll add that, and this is really a
[23:58] public disclosure. Sorry, I got
[24:01] ahead of myself.
[24:02] No, you're fine.
[24:03] But I applied for our grant from
[24:06] the Unity Foundation and we received our
[24:09] check. So, if anyone is
[24:13] curious about the amount, it was $
[24:16] 61,430.
[24:18] Oh.
[24:19] So, the goal is to buy a
[24:21] vehicle with all that?
[24:23] Well, I told them about a couple of
[24:25] projects we were
[24:26] planning to work on next year.
[24:30] A new vehicle, but I also
[24:32] talked about how we have some
[24:34] kennels that really need to be
[24:35] replaced. So, yes, the money
[24:39] is... It's
[24:40] great to know that those funds are
[24:42] there.
[24:43] And they have to be used before the
[24:44] end of the year, is that what
[24:45] happens?
[24:46] So, they said they have to be used
[24:51] within a certain timeframe, but I don't know if
[24:55] that's a definite thing. I feel that it's
[24:58] more that
[24:59] you have to have an end goal with
[25:00] it.
[25:00] I think we corrected it. I think it was only
[25:03] necessary if we're working on something
[25:05] and we can sit there and say to them, "
[25:06] Hey, if X Yes." So I think
[25:09] they're willing to work with
[25:11] us on that. It's just that, yes, it's just that if we do
[25:13] n't end up using them for what they
[25:15] 're intended for, then we don't do it
[25:17] . So
[25:18] what, do you keep the money
[25:19] ?
[25:20] Correct.
[25:21] Yes. So, with that, we'll move
[25:23] forward and close the
[25:25] public disclosure, the public comments.
[25:30] Seeing that there is no one from the public here
[25:31] , we will proceed and close
[25:32] public comments. With that, number
[25:35] 11.
[25:37] He presents a motion for closure.
[25:38] Motion to adjourn by Mr. Haney,
[25:40] seconded by Ms. Kackman. Everyone
[25:43] who is in favor?
[25:44] Yes.
[25:45] The session is adjourned.