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All right, please rise and join in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all.

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Welcome to the September 1st Laramie County Board of Commissioners meeting. It asks if you have a cell phone that you turn it to silent. If you're going to speak during a public hearing portion, if you'd come forward and state your name and address for the record, it would be appreciated.

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With that first item, please.

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Item 1 consideration of the minutes of proceedings for August 3, 2020-6.

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Question 2.

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Motion 2.

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Question 2.

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Question 2.

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Roll call please.

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Commissioner Heath.

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Hi.

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Commissioner Holland's head.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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Commissioner's one, is there?

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Chairman Mom.

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Next item.

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Item 2.

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Question 2.

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Question 2.

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Motion 2.

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Question 2.

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discussion, roll call please.

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Commissioner Heith.

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Hi.

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Commissioner Hollingshead.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Item 3 through 22 are considered a team county business

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and we consider it as one item under the consent agenda.

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Unless a member of the governing body would like to have one removed.

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Commissioners.

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Mr. Chair, move to approve consent agenda.

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Item 3 or 22.

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Motion and secondary discussion.

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Discussion.

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Roll call please.

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Hi.

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Dr. Hollingseth?

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Commissioner Thompson?

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Commissioner's one, sir?

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Hi.

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Chairman Mo.

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I,

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Dale, are both in microphones on over there.

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Are you?

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You're just going.

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Next item, please.

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Item 23.

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Consideration of Warnson and Mount of six million,

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834,000 for her and eight dollars,

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57 cents for August 2026.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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Mr. Chair, I've got a conflict on the war and so I'll recuse myself.

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All right, Commissioner Thompson has recused himself, commissioners.

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Motion to approve.

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Motion to second.

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Discussion on war and discussion.

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Roll call, please.

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Commissioner Heath.

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Hi.

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Commissioner Hollingshead.

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Commissioner's on, is there?

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All right.

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Chairman, Mom.

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Next item, please.

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Item 24 consideration of the adoption of the Leramy County Community

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Waiow Fire Protection Plan.

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Mr. Butler.

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Chairman, Mom, commissioners.

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Matt Butler, Army County Fire Award, and before you today is the adoption of a long-awaited

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community wildfire protection plan. We have been in this process for over four years now,

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four years now, between the different grant applications and being denied and then reapplying

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and getting accepted. So I'm very pleased to come before you with the final plan for

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Army County's community wildfire protection plan. I got a short five-slide presentation

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without a two-minute overview of the website that I'd like to provide if that's okay.

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Yeah, thank you. Perfect.

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So the planning process for a community wildfire protection plan was, again, for

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on start to finish, from awarding the contract of Bintel Inc. was about a year-long process

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with a start-off at the kickoff meeting, planning meetings, stakeholder meetings, and community

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meetings throughout the entire year this last year. We went out for public comment, the surveys,

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we had the public meetings a couple different public meetings, went out in the Western

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portion of the county and one at Archer. Very well attended on both stakeholder meetings.

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We had throughout the whole time. These were subject matter experts from makeup from

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Fire District State Forestry, our grants department, emergency management, myself, commissioners

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were involved. And then the planning team is really kind of what drive this plan home. So I first

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and foremost want to give a huge thank to everyone that participated in this plan with me and

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conjunction with me to create it and make it what it is. I want to give a special shout out to

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Sandra Bay, our grants manager. She spent countless times with me early in the process going through

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this application for this grant that we ultimately received. So without her, I don't think I could be

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up here presenting this. So thank you very much Sandra. Very much appreciated. Next slide.

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So it consists of five different parts. There's the base plan that kind of gives the who

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why you win and how what a community wildfire or CWP is explains a little bit of the demographics

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of Army County and what our make-up is. Goes into the different appendixes community

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agnietyability, which is more or less the fire behavior of what Army County can see.

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The home ignition zone recommendations, if you're a community member watching online or if you're

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in the audience, this is probably the section that you want to pay attention to the most,

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this is how you can protect your home from wildfires and and create that defensible space.

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PentexC is probably the part that if you're if you're reading this big long pan you want to skip this is how they all they collect it all of their information

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What type of methodality g they use the surveys the different GIS layers

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So on and so forth and then the last one the PentexD is

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This is truly the, the, um, bring it home appendix, which is the home on a recommendation. So panics B is the, what you can do around your, your, uh, your house, protect your individual home.

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Panics B is kind of the county wide recommendations, which will, which I'll kind of go over view once we get to the live map.

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This is just a map of the field work that been tell myself and all the county fire chiefs did, so all the blue lines represent where we traveled.

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This was over about six to seven days worth of traveling the county taking pictures talking to the local fire chiefs in the in these communities about where their hazard areas are that was what the stakeholders really brought to the table was being able to talk to the contractor with with where their their stay at week or stay at stay awake at night areas are in the community on those areas that we really wanted to make sure that we hit when we travel around the the county looking at what a community could do

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So this is just the map depicting the different lanes of travel that we took throughout the county over those six or seven days.

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These are the different communities studied based off the title of the plan that community wildfire protection plan.

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This doesn't cover every square inch of Laramie County, but we tried to get a good representation of all the communities here in Laramie County and what their makeups.

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On this map, there are different ratings, so red is kind of that extreme fire danger level and that could be based off of apography,

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based off of vegetation, it could be based off of distance to water resources.

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We're then as we get down to the blue, those are the lower hazard areas,

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or the lower communities for fire risk and anywhere in between.

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We did identify a couple areas of special interest in these areas that are just kind of called

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out in the plan that kind of stand alone and may need some special management options.

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One being Kurt Gattie State Park, another one being F.E. Warren Air Force Base and then

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the archer fair complex out east here is another one of those special areas we identified.

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So this is the busy slide.

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This is the recommended treatments for the different communities and what they are.

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I purposely left it busy up here because you can see that there's a lot of them.

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There is over 19 different communities surveyed with over 40 different individual recommendations

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across those different communities.

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And a lot of them are going to be very similar across communities because the makeup of

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Laramie County is very similar for 90, 90% of the county where our grassland community.

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So a lot of the recommendations will be the same, but on the eastern and western sides,

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we do have those forest forested areas.

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So I left a busy so that we can go to the next one.

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And this is the public facing website.

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So it's cwpp.us.

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I'd highly recommend going to this website

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because this is where you'll be able to dial in

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to your neck of the woods and see what we did.

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So if Justin can click on the link there, it should work.

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So it brings you to Bintel's landing page.

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If we zoom in to Laramie County, you can click on our little icon or our county seal there.

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Go to the map section or the home section, it doesn't really matter, but we'll go to the maps,

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because I wanted to go to the recommended treatment.

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Third row down, second one in is the recommended treatment.

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There's a whole bunch of layers on the left hand side that you can turn on or off.

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You can turn off the area's interest. You can turn off the community boundaries.

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You can find out where the nearest fire station is to you all sorts of different layers,

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But the one we're really interested in this one is those recommended treatments.

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So if you could zoom in to kind of north eye 25 area, just off of horse Greek road,

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or just in that would be great.

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So you can kind of see the different recommended treatments here.

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We've got a bunch of moinds.

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One of the things that came up during the study was that a lot of our fires that they have highlighted in this plan

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generally move from west east because of our winds, right?

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So, a lot of our molines that are recommended here on the North South corridors, as well as to the bottom of the screen there, the defensible space linkage, right?

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So, protecting communities, that community just the bottom corner, the bottom side of the page, was a perfect example of how good defensible space protects homes, that area was nearly, it was impacted by the happy Jackfire a number of years ago.

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And so they're highlighting that a link to Festival Space for some of these neighborhoods can really do

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do wonders for that community.

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If you click on any one of the recommendations, it'll kind of give you a breakdown.

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So if you click on just any one of those, Justin.

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It'll kind of give you a breakdown of what that actual...

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Recommendation is, if it just says, linked to principal space and you do not sure what that means. You can click on it and it'll kind of give a definition or an example or a breakdown of what what it is they mean by defense what linked to principal space.

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And those are all throughout we have water water locations proposed water locations we have mobile lines linked to principal space. There is roadside treatments in the in the plan.

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So it really is that community plan that I'm hoping that our community at large can use and help better protect the community.

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I appreciate the time to give you the 30,000 foot view of what the CWP is, and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

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Any questions from that?

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I just appreciate all the work that you've done on this, and everybody else who has involved, so thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right, do you have a motion?

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Motion to approve.

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Second.

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Motion a second.

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Any further discussion?

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Discussion?

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Okay.

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Roll call, please.

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Commissioner Heath?

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Hi.

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Commissioner Hollingshead?

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Commissioner Thompson?

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Commissioner Swan, is there?

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Hi.

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Chairman Mom.

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Hi. Next item, please.

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Thank you, Matt.

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Item 25, consideration of an agreement between

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learning county Wyoming and Garland DVS incorporated in an amount of $70,000 we have $40

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to provide repairs to the roof of the event center for the 801 archer parkway.

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All right, I don't see Jason in the room, so I believe these are two, this is a repair

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to the cap on the roof of the event center at archer that was causing some leaking all

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throughout fair and other times that we're fortunate enough to get rain.

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So, commissioners, Mr. Chair, move to approve.

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Second.

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Motion to second the discussion by the commission.

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Discussion?

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Well, call please.

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Commissioner Heath?

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Aye.

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Commissioner Hollings?

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Aye.

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Commissioner Thompson?

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Aye.

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Commissioner for the Honest, sir.

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Chairman Moom?

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Aye.

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Next item, please.

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Consideration of a resolution re-appointing mark.

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T.Vaugh says the Lerny County attorney

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in accordance with Wyoming State Statue 1838301A

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effective September 1, 2020, sex.

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Mr. Vost, you want to bring your kids in and

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suck clothes and.

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Unfortunately, they successfully grown up and moved away.

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So I can no longer present them as pathetic orphans.

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Okay, or soon to be.

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I would like to say that this is the most interesting

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challenging job I've ever had.

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I love every minute of it.

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Even the frustrating parts.

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I think that people who have a little opinion of government

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have not experienced what it's like inside one, the people that go to work every day

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and keep stuff running and you don't know about it.

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It's an honor to represent them and this entity and the elected officials.

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Thank you, Mr. Ross.

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Commissioner.

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Mr. Chair, move to approve.

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Motion to second discussion.

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Mr. Chair.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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Just Mark thanks to the pleasure to work with you.

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I don't know that I've ever met anybody as intelligent as you and

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Certainly, your knowledge of the laws is quite impressive, and it's been a pleasure to work with you, so

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I'm pretty sure you still want to do it.

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And that's chair.

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I've never met anybody as loquacious as you, and in written or verbal form, and my knowledge of early

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English literature and the Viking Empire, because of you, I've learned a lot.

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I never knew that a road issue could find its roots in maritime law, but Mark Frost will tell you that there's actually a way that you can see that trace that line directly.

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So with that roll call, please.

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Commissioner Heath.

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Commissioner Hollingsett.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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I.

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Commissioner.

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Chairman.

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I.

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Next item.

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27.

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consideration of a resolution, appointing a member to represent Lairmy County on the Board of Wyoming Association of Risk Management,

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expiring June 30, 2020-9. Gavin?

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Thank you, commissioners. Gavin,

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low-mire, risk manager for Lairmy County. This is just to officiate the appointment to the board,

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so that I may represent Lairmy County in our insurance pool. Yep, any questions for Gavin?

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Mr. Chair, move to point and give a little more.

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Second.

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Motion.

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Second.

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Discussion by the Commission.

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Discussion?

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Well, call please.

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Commissioner Heath.

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I.

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Commissioner Hollings.

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Hi.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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I.

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Commissioner Swaniser.

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Hi.

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Chairman Moe.

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Next item please.

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Thanks, Gavin.

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Item 28.

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Public hearing to solicit input and comments on the U.S. Department of Justice.

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2026.

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Justice assistance grant application to benefit by maintaining Wyoming and the City of

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And, not, not sexy.

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166,000, 12 dollars and this is a non-action item. All right, this is a public hearing if you'd like to come forward and speak on Ms. Grant opportunity that Larry Mcountie is putting in through for the Department of Justice. Anybody online?

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No, hands raised at this time. Public hearing, one more time online, one more time in the room, anybody? Public hearing, having minutes purpose, the public hearing is closed, commissioners. Next item, sorry, no, no action.

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I am 29 public hearing regarding the correction of the 226 mil levees pursuant to Wyoming

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statute, 3 913102GC Little A3I J. This is Nath.

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Commissioners, Sherry Snath, chief deputy assessor for Levy County. The reason we're here today is

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because we were, we had the incorrect information for the mil levee. We're requested from the

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past board so that originally we thought it was five mills it turns out

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at seven mills so we needed to correct that and we had to increase the mills on

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all tax districts by point two mills. Okay

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this is a public hearing if you'd like

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to speak on this item please come forward anybody online there are no comments

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at this time one more time in the room public hearing anybody really exciting

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stuff one more time every saving their ammo all right public hearing having

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As purpose of the public hearing is closed, commissioners.

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The chair of the group.

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Second.

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Motion and second.

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Discussion by the commission.

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Discussion.

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Roll call please.

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Commissioner Heath.

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I.

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Commissioner Hollingshead.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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I.

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Commissioner.

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I.

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Chairman.

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I.

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Next item.

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Please.

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Item 30 public hearing.

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Regarding a major sub division permit and

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that for R&R Heights located in a portion of Lancet's

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weighted in the west half of section two,

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township 14, North Rain 68 West of the 6 p.m.

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Miami County, Wyoming.

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Mr. Arnold.

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Mr. Chairman, members of the board,

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Justin Arnold, Army County Planning and Development

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presenting on behalf of the project planners

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on the M. Portio.

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On the land planning LLC on behalf of Land Owner Jean,

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we are a revocable trust has submitted an application

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for a major subdivision permit and platform

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for the above location.

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The purpose of the application is to sub divide 319.71 acre lot

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into 52 single-family residential lots.

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The subject property is located in the land

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whose own district is currently used

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for agricultural purposes.

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The surrounding area is residential

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to the west agricultural vacant land

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to the east and south commercial

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and detached residential uses.

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The property is located at the intersection

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of horse creek road or state highway

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to 11 in county road to 15.

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given the difficulty of this intersection in access to the proposed subdivision access will be reconfigured

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at the intersection to grant access from road 215 and another access point off road 116.

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No direct access will be from more Creek Road.

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Without we do have KC Palmer with Palmerland planning here to answer any questions you may have

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related to the project.

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Mr. Palmer.

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Good afternoon, Chairman, commissioners, KC Palmer, Palmerland planning agent for the

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So I think staff covered it pretty well.

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This is a 52-lot subdivision of approximately 300 acres.

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The floodplain crossings will be injuring the process of being engineered now.

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The only thing I would call your attention to that's not in the staff report is we

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had sent you a letter regarding the public safety fees for this project.

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So there's $52,000 do.

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And following submittal, the fire authority had reached out to us asking if we could

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make improvements to the sister and access on road 117 and so we have a contractors verified

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estimate for that it's about 48,000 of the 52,000 that's due in public safety fees and we

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just like to apply those fees to that construction. The remainder of the balance will be paid

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in cash and outside of that I don't have anything else to add unless you have any questions for me.

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Any questions for Casey? Any questions? Okay thank you Casey for report please.

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Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, just an Arnold Army County Planning.

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The Jeremy County Conference, a plan identifies the area as rural AG in our face.

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According to the adopted anecdotal data January 31, 2014, the property lies within zone two

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of the study area, which requires a minimum of 5.25 acres of growth for sufficient groundwater recharge from a pumping well.

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A subdivision in more than five lots requires its middle of the Chapter 23 study,

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the Wyoming Department of Environmental Quality.

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A chapter 23 application will be submitted and a letter of non-adverse recommendation will

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be required prior to plot recordation.

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Water and sanitary stewards will be provided by individual well-inseptic tanks.

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The environmental and services impact report provides a general outline of the project and its impact on schools.

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Stornwater runoff in county services. Portions of these parcels lie within the FEMA 100 year floodplain, the land analysis map provides information regarding the buildable area of the proposed subdivision for each lot.

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At the time of this report, agency reviewer comments are still being addressed regarding back up in vehicular traffic around mailbox turnouts and protections to prevent this from happening.

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Staffing out with the applicant and per needgencies on August 24, 2026 to correct these traffic concerns on the plaque with those corrections are a condition of this report.

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Public notice was provided with no public comments received.

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The planning commission met on August 13, 2026 on this matter and approve the project with a vote of 3 to 0.

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Section 2, 3, 1, 0, 2, subsection A of LCL, you are required as the learning county commission planning commission.

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You find that the proposed use is permitted to then conformance with all applicable developments

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standards.

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Staff finds this application is in conformance with the plans and policies of WEMI County.

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And based upon that evidence, staff finds the data is application needs the criteria for

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a major subdivision permit and plat person into section 4500 to the 2025 LCLUR in B.

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This application is in conformance with section 2404 of the 2025 LCLUR governing the land

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some district and that the board may approve the major subdivision permit and

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platform or our height subdivision with the following conditions being one.

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All agency comments must be addressed and were corrected prior to

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recordation to right of way alignment and mailbox location corrections must be

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resolved prior to recordation in three which after 23 non-adverse action letter must

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be received from the EQ prior to recordation and without I stand for any questions from

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the body. Any questions from the sir Arnold? No questions all right this is a

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If you'd like to speak on this item, please come forward.

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Is there anybody online?

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There are no comments on my at this time.

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All right.

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One more time in the room.

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Public hearing, anyone want to come forward and speak on this item.

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Public hearing, having met as purpose, public hearing is closed.

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Mr. Chairman, I moved to approve the major subdivision permit and platform for our

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and our heights located in a portion of land situated in the west half of section 2.

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Township, 14 North, 167 west of the 6pm, where we count on Wyoming, and recommended

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options of the findings of the facts A&B of the staff report with the following conditions.

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Condition one, all agency comments must be addressed and are corrected prior to recordation.

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Condition two, right away alignment and mailbox location corrections must be resolved prior

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to recordation, and condition number three, a chapter 23, non-inverse letter, action letter must

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be received from the EQ prior to recordation.

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Second, motion and second, discussion by the commission, discussion, roll call please.

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Commissioner Heath, I, Commissioner Hollingshead, I, Commissioner Thompson.

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I, Commissioner Swanitzer, I, Chairman Mom, I, next item, please.

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Item 31, Public Hearing, regarding his own change from L.U. Land Use to C.V. Community Business

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Zone District, located at Lot 20, Block 7, All America, Subdivision, Second Filing,

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Lamy County, Wyoming.

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Mr. Arnold, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, Justin Arnold, Lamy County Planning and Development

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presenting on behalf of the Project Planet Kate Kunder.

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It's now serving services LLC on behalf of Jacob Johnson, has applied it for a approval

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of a zone change for a lot of 20 blocks, 7 dollar America, subdivision, second filing from

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land use zone district to community business.

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The purpose of the application is to change the zoning of the subject parcel to match the zoning

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of the owner's adjacent lot to the west.

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The adjoining lot is currently used for storage, any commercial development of the subject

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partial will require commercial site planning future actions, pertinent regulations include

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Section 2113 and 2405 of the LCLUR and with that we have Shane Hanson and the Stels

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through ring on behalf of the applicant to answer any questions you might have.

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Mr. Hanson.

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Good afternoon, Shane Ethel Stels, sir.

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My answer to any questions you may have regarding the zone judge.

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Any questions for Shane?

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Questions?

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Okay.

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Thank you, sir.

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Full staff report, please.

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Mr. Chairman, members of the Board.

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just to know where me County Planning.

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The subject of property is currently assessed as residential vacant land

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and is bordered by next year of residential and commercial properties.

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The Lair Me County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area as urban rural interface.

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These areas may have higher level of the e-cular access greater overall level

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of community service and plans shy and designates the area as rural residential.

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Individual well-insapted systems provide water and sanitary services to the area.

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agency reviews have been addressed, probably notice was provided in accordance with Section 1, 3,

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1, 0, 4 notices were sent to 23 surrounding property owners within 500 feet with no comments received.

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Section 2, 1, 1, 0, 3 subsection E of the LCLU are states that prior to making a recommendation to the commissioners about any zoning

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an appointment, the Planning Commission is required to find that one was on change request

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reports and reports that the safety in health.

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For the community, and that endorses the general welfare of the inhabitants of Wernie County, and that one of the following two was also be determined, excuse me, to be declared to be a finding A. The existing zoning classification of the land is not 50 overall development pattern of the area or B. There have been changes in physical, economic and social nature within the area, which have prompted the request and which enable the zone change to better meet community needs.

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Criteria, I and B are met by the type of action proposed by meeting all of planning's application Criteria.

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The Wernwick County Planning Commission met on August 13, 2026 and recommended approval by a vote of 3-0.

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And based on the evidence provided and has included in the Johnson Zone Change Files staff states that A.

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This application does meet the Criteria for his own map amendment pursuant to section 2-1-1-0-3 of the 2025 LCL-UR in B.

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The proposed change in zone district is in conformance with the requirements of section 2, 4, 1, 0, 5 of the LCO, you are and that the Board of Commissioners may approve the Johnson Zone change from land use to community business for white 20 blocks of an all-America sub division, second filing, where in the county with no conditions and with that I stand for any questions.

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Any questions for Justin at this time? Questions? Okay, this is a public hearing. If you'd like to speak on this item, please come forward. Anybody online?

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All right, this is a public hearing again on the zone change.

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If you'd like to come forward and speak one more time, public hearing outing that is

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purpose of the public hearing is closed commissioners.

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Mr. Chair, I'm of to prove that change in zone district for a lot 20 block 7, all

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American subdivisions, second filing from land use to community business, and adopt the

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findings of the fact of A and B of the staff report with no conditions.

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Thank you. Motion to second discussion by the Commission.

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Discussion.

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Discussion.

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Roll call please.

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Commissioner Heath.

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Commissioner Hollingshead.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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Commissioner Solancer.

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All right.

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Chairman Mom.

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I next item please.

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Item 32 public hearing regarding his own change from LU land use to PUD plan unit development.

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Zone district located in portions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 11.

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10 ship 12 North Marine 67 West and portions of section 35 10 ship 13 North Marine 67 West

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Army County Wyoming.

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Mr. Chairman, members of the board, just an Arnold Lenny County Planning,

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un-presenting our behalf of Project Planner, K-Kumble.

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On the land planning LLC on behalf of the Vantage Data Center,

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it's submitted an application for approval of a zone change for Project Latigo from

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Land Use Zone District to Planned Unit Development Zone District.

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the zone change will establish a framework for the development of a data center campus and supporting infrastructure.

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An onsite workforce accommodation component to house construction phase personnel is included.

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The PUD comprises approximately 1,835 acres and is located south of state highway 223 also known as Terry Ranch Road.

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The subject property is currently assessed as agricultural, the surrounding area consists of mixture of range land and commercial uses.

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The PUD district is intended for industrial uses requiring buffering, secure operations and associated accessory uses that cannot readily fix fit into general commercial or mixed use districts.

474
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:37,490
Pernant regulations include Section 21103 and 21111111 of the WEMI county land use regulations and with that we do have the applicant here to answer any questions you may have.

475
00:28:37,790 --> 00:28:38,390
Mr. Palmer.

476
00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:40,910
Good afternoon, commissioners.

477
00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:43,950
Casey Palmer, Palmer Land Planning, for the applicant.

478
00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:50,910
So what you have before you today is a zoning framework on about 1,800 acres to establish

479
00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:57,090
a data center and supporting infrastructure, mechanical cooling plants, internal cooling

480
00:28:57,090 --> 00:28:58,930
is provided by closed-loop system.

481
00:28:59,810 --> 00:29:06,590
Phase 1 includes staging areas, access, circulation routes, on-site power production, in section

482
00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:06,830
11.

483
00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:13,250
The PUD does allow for on-site workforce housing, but no on-site residential is proposed at this time.

484
00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:26,310
We are coordinating with the adjacent land owner, primarily the state of Wyoming, about mutual access and cross-access and then the best way to coordinate complementary land uses and provide appropriate buffering and that type of thing.

485
00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:34,030
So I do have with me today a couple of representatives from Vantage, Matt Clark, Senior Governor

486
00:29:34,030 --> 00:29:36,810
Affairs Manager and Tim Denimberg with Market Development.

487
00:29:37,290 --> 00:29:38,450
So I just turn it over to them.

488
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:42,410
I think they have a brief slide show that they've given the staff and just want to run through

489
00:29:42,410 --> 00:29:44,070
a little bit of an introduction for you.

490
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,700
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

491
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:50,040
Mr.

492
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:58,720
Chairman.

493
00:29:58,820 --> 00:29:59,420
Thank you so much.

494
00:29:59,420 --> 00:29:59,980
I'll go.

495
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,800
We hope we brief and just kind of our background of the company and the project overall and then answer any questions that you may have before and before we move forward. So next slide.

496
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:18,380
Vanish data centers, as it's mentioned on slide founded in 2010, our headquarters is in Denver, Colorado. We have multiple data center sites throughout the country, if not worldwide.

497
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:24,320
We deliver our data centers and approve and flexible manner that meets many customer needs.

498
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,360
We serve many of the world's leading technology partners and leaders.

499
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:33,420
And we, most of all, are committed to be a long-term partner in any community in which we build,

500
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,200
making sure that we engage with the community in a way that limits the impact and brings the maximum return on investment.

501
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,720
Next slide.

502
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As you can see, the project we anticipate will bring up to $2,000 to $2,000 to the local community

503
00:30:48,540 --> 00:30:51,440
with an investment of up to $20 billion when it's completed.

504
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,520
We intend to focus most of our community engagement around workforce development

505
00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,840
and local engagements, how can we help the community, what are the things that they need.

506
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,580
We also are firmly invested in conservation and a solid use of natural resources.

507
00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:13,680
we want to make sure that we leave the land as well as we found it. Next slide.

508
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,620
So just to brief overview of our community engagement approach,

509
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,740
like we mentioned, we believe that we need to go into the community and talk to them and listen to

510
00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:27,980
their needs and concerns as we as we build and we go. I mentioned before that we are focused

511
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:32,580
on being good stewards of the resources in which we use, including both water and

512
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:38,240
natural gas in which we used to power it. We've already had our first open house to

513
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,540
talk to the community about the timeline of the project, what we're doing, how we're looking

514
00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:45,900
to invest. We want to make sure that some of the concerns that we heard around lighting and noise,

515
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,880
we meet not only the county standards but ensure that those are not a problems for the surrounding

516
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,980
community. While we missed last night's meeting in person, we did attend online to the best of

517
00:31:55,980 --> 00:32:01,000
our ability and we will be here quarterly to continue to answer any other questions. We've set up

518
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,660
couple of displays outside that kind of given overview of what we talked about today and we're

519
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:08,200
happy to meet with anyone that would like to further discuss it without taking up any additional

520
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,380
time. So I'm going to turn it over to my colleague and he'll give an overview of the project in the

521
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:15,780
timeline and then we're happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you.

522
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Good afternoon. I'm Tim Dennerberg. I'm a director of Market Development for Vantage.

523
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:28,260
If you'd kindly go to the next slide. So again, not to repeat the report from staff, but the

524
00:32:28,260 --> 00:32:31,900
The project location is a very southern end of the county sits squarely within their

525
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:37,180
county, not in the city of Cheyenne, or helpful that the location is often chosen

526
00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:43,620
adjacent to uses that are compatible and away from some of the other parts of the

527
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:47,100
county and the city that are not really supportive of this.

528
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:53,260
Again, it's just used to buy 25 south of Terry Ranch Road and west of 85.

529
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:58,000
If you go to the next one, so again, just a quick overview on the PUD,

530
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,720
itself covers just over three sections. It would enable the development and the investment in data

531
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,380
center infrastructure, which includes the buildings. There's also the administrative office component,

532
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,520
as mentioned by Casey and Matt, there would be on-site power generation, with that we intend to use

533
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,980
Wyoming gas, keeping both the resources and the investment within the state there, and then the closed

534
00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:26,020
load-chiller system essentially uses no water during cooling operations. There's an initial fill-up,

535
00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:30,020
But after that, the water just cycles, and other than restrooms for the employees that

536
00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:35,980
will be working there, water uses very low, and I think it met, as mentioned, vantage

537
00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:40,920
plans to invest back into the local water resources, so that we're being in that positive

538
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,520
on that front, and then there is also plans for onsite workforce housing, knowing that it

539
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,120
will require a lot of people, which brings a lot of good jobs, but need to place for those

540
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,400
people live or they're building it and we help to try and mitigate those impacts

541
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,000
that bring in some of those onsite. And then lastly, things like traffic, light,

542
00:34:00,140 --> 00:34:04,380
air quality, noise, we're taking very seriously and intentionally into our planning

543
00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:07,840
and really appreciate the dialogue and the feedback that we've gotten from the community

544
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,560
on all those items. And both as part of our PUD and our future site plan and other submissions

545
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:19,020
look forward to incorporating plans to make all those impacts as mitigated as possible.

546
00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:24,580
again making this as positive a project for the county and the community as it can be.

547
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,340
And in the last one, I think we've gone here. This is a touch based on timeline.

548
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,340
So we're pretty early in the process. Here, almost towards the end of 2026, this is really one

549
00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:41,360
of the first steps for us on the entitlements and the permitting for the project. And with that, again,

550
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,040
really looking forward to continuing the dialogue with the community. One of you transparent with

551
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:52,000
plans and open about how this can be beneficial and how we can work together to make this

552
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,040
really local two-lirmy county. I'm with that. We hope to start construction next year,

553
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,980
which would go about until 2030 and from there that.

554
00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:13,640
That concludes our quick overview. Thank you all for the time, and again, we've got other members of our team here. Happy to answer any questions now or after the meeting as well.

555
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,700
Thank you. Any questions for the applicant? Commissioner Thompson.

556
00:35:17,660 --> 00:35:28,860
Mr. Chair, thank you. Source of the water. The water will be source from onsite. We're currently doing testing to confirm that we can reach the Lanceloc offer, so that is the intended plan.

557
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:33,260
and additional information be provided in the site plan for that as well.

558
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:33,660
Fair enough.

559
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,140
And then this comment for every 100 gallons of water used,

560
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,680
110 gallons will be restored.

561
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:39,760
What does that mean?

562
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,820
So essentially, vantage plans to invest in projects

563
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:49,060
that will restore water into the existing aquifers,

564
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:54,080
things such as floodplain and wetland restoration that essentially

565
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,480
allow water that's not currently being restored to get restored.

566
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,160
So, trying to basically put more in than we're taking out.

567
00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:06,000
Mr. Chair, through you, and those projects will they be site-specific?

568
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:09,260
They will be, I would say, local specifics.

569
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:13,000
So, not on the site itself, but within the Lairmy County area,

570
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,180
other examples might be helping invest in agricultural improvements,

571
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,320
irrigation ways to make those more efficient.

572
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,360
So, ultimately, benefiting the county, not just on the site.

573
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:29,480
Mr. Chair, one more question, so how do we monitor that?

574
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,400
I mean, how do we keep track of that?

575
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,120
I mean, as a county commissioner, as a member of the public,

576
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,660
how do I see those activities and see those results?

577
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,780
That's something we can follow up with more information on.

578
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:43,680
I don't have a great answer for you right now,

579
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:48,060
but I think it's something that we're more than planning and excited

580
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:52,040
to help be transparent and report as much as we can on it.

581
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:54,840
Any other questions?

582
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,500
Good. Thank you, guys.

583
00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:00,740
Mr. Arnold, floor report.

584
00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:04,440
Mr. Chairman, members of the board, just an honor to learn me county planning.

585
00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:09,500
The learning county comprehensive plan designates this area is gateway corridor in

586
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:14,640
Agon Rangeland. All access to project radical is intended to be directly from

587
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:26,260
Terry Ranch Road either via I-25 or stay highway 85. Access to public roadways will be

588
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:31,280
Agency reviews have been completed with all comments addressed separate responses from the application

589
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:37,460
which sent for comments from Wapa as well as the Wyoming Gaming Fish. Public notice was provided in a

590
00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:43,060
current section 1, 3, 1, 0, 4 notices were sent to 19 surrounding property owners with

591
00:37:43,060 --> 00:37:49,180
in 500 feet of the subject property. One public comment regarding access to the project was received.

592
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:54,780
Applicant responded that the project will not be using the access is in question to the north

593
00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:58,140
If not comment, the applicant response is attached to this report.

594
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Section 21103 subsection east states that the prior to making a recommendation to the county commissioners about any zoning

595
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,980
napa amendment, the planning commission is required to find that one of the zone change requests supports and

596
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:24,500
impulsed the safety and health of the community and that it endorses general welfare of the inhabitants of the

597
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:28,480
of the development pattern of the area, or be there have been changes of a physical, economic,

598
00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:33,460
or social nature within the area, which have prompted the request and which enable

599
00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:36,020
the zone change to better meet community needs.

600
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,480
I'll free criteria met by the type of action proposed by meeting planning's application

601
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,080
criteria.

602
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:47,260
The planning commission met on August 13, 2026 and recommended approval by vote of 3 to 0.

603
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And based on evidence provided, then, has included in project, latter go files, staff finds

604
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,420
Today, this application does need to criteria for a zone

605
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,860
and an app amendment, a person with a section two, three,

606
00:38:57,860 --> 00:39:01,280
two, one, one, one, one, three of LCLUR and B.

607
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120
The proposed change in zone district is in conformance

608
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,120
with the requirements of section two, four, one, eleven of LCLUR.

609
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,960
And that the Board of County Commissioners

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may approve project radical zone change

611
00:39:12,220 --> 00:39:15,800
from the land use to plan unit development with no conditions.

612
00:39:16,060 --> 00:39:18,940
I would also note, before you start your discussion,

613
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:24,180
that should it be approved there would still be a commercial site plan and associated public

614
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:29,300
notice in public hearings that would be required before approval final approval of any

615
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:34,220
project with that. I stand for any questions. Thank you any questions for Justin. Any questions?

616
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,100
Okay public hearing on line first.

617
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,620
There are no comments online at this time. Public hearing in the room.

618
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,100
Anyone want to speak on this item?

619
00:39:50,140 --> 00:39:54,040
One more time for public hearing? One more time online.

620
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,980
Okay, public hearing has met its purpose, public hearing.

621
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,160
Hearing is closed, commissioners.

622
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:22,020
Mr. Chair, I moved to approve the Project Lategor zone change from land use to plan new to development, located in portions of section 1, 2, 3, and 11, township 12 North, ring 67 West and section 13, township 13 North, ring 67 West, lair McNeon and Wyoming, and adopt the findings of facts A and B of the staff report with no conditions.

623
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,800
So, motion and second, discussion by the commission. Discussion? Discussion?

624
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,740
I would just say I appreciate the applicant's commitment to our community through their efforts

625
00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:38,820
to revitalize waterways and try and give as much as we take when we talk about these

626
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:43,260
large industrial projects or Laramie County in general when we meet with folks we tell

627
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:47,520
a Wyoming and Laramie County are open for business but you have to be willing to enter into

628
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,340
a Wyoming relationship and I think that through our discussions and through this presentation

629
00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:55,900
from Vantage we've seen that at this point they're committed to doing and upholding those

630
00:40:55,900 --> 00:41:02,540
I think we've long looked as a community for industry that not only used Wyoming resources

631
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:07,380
to produce and power the nation, but produced power that was utilized right here in Lermy County.

632
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,520
And so I'm excited about what this project potentially brings and excited for the partnership.

633
00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:14,120
So I appreciate you.

634
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,420
Will call please.

635
00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:17,000
Commissioner Heath.

636
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,720
Hi.

637
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Commissioner Hollingsett.

638
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Commissioner Thompson.

639
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,800
Commissioner's one answer.

640
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:23,120
Hi.

641
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:29,140
Next item please item 33 public hearing regarding a vacation attract to Walden Ranch

642
00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:34,380
a state second filing located in a portion of section 10 township 13 North Wayne's 63

643
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:39,940
West and approval of a small subdivision permit and platform for Walden, Hussieenda,

644
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:41,640
Mayor McKinney Wyoming.

645
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:46,360
Mr. Arnold Mr. Chairman members of the board just and Arnold

646
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,740
Lairmy County Planning, presenting on behalf of Project Planner K. Kunder,

647
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:54,900
Self-serving services on behalf of JJ Walden has submitted a small sub division permit and

648
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:58,980
applied application for Walden, Hossein, and the located at Tract 2 Walden Ranch

649
00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:01,040
estate, second-fiving, Miami County, Wyoming.

650
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:05,840
The subject property is located at 4503, road 208, Carpenter, Wyoming.

651
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,860
The sub division reconfigures the existing 27.5 acre parcel into four tracks.

652
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,400
The average track size is 6.88 acres.

653
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,760
The subject property is currently assessed as residential and located in the land

654
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,520
zone district, the surrounding areas consist of farmland and residential uses. Private

655
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,020
wells and septic systems provide water and sanitary service to the area. The existing

656
00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:32,700
residents will be located on tracks to, with that we do have seen Hanson here, agent for

657
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:36,000
the applicant and answer any questions you might have. Mr. Hanson.

658
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,180
Good afternoon, Shane Hanson, style serving services. A couple of items we need to discuss regarding

659
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:46,880
this project. One of them is a road name change. That was requested. Actually a road name.

660
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,760
And I was requested, JJ Walton put in a application two and a half

661
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,400
three years ago to name that road.

662
00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:54,120
The neighbors of the South wouldn't sign it.

663
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:56,060
So because they didn't want to change their address.

664
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,440
In this venue, you get to approve it.

665
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,600
We have no problem with naming the road at all.

666
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,400
So that's one of the conditions that's on here that we'll take care of.

667
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,780
The other condition is they asked for 40 fast

668
00:43:07,780 --> 00:43:09,100
if we're additional 40 foot right away.

669
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,240
There's currently a 40 foot right away on the section to the west.

670
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,620
It's dedicated, it's a piece of it dedicated to the public use.

671
00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:23,220
The initial submittal, we can we use it, we dedicated a 20-footed public use for a 60-foot wide rider way through there.

672
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,320
Currently there's only three tracks that use it for a wide rider.

673
00:43:26,420 --> 00:43:26,980
Let's see.

674
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,480
We'll track to the south.

675
00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:31,900
Mr. Waldo's track contract with North.

676
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,880
So there's 40 foot there currently.

677
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:35,580
That's been there for decades.

678
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,900
People are the front of the south, go south to 208.

679
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,020
We're adding three tracks to create a family compound from Mr. Waldo and his family.

680
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:54,260
We're asking for relief from that 40 feet, if we dedicate 40 feet, it puts his pipe collar fence in the right away, including all these utilities.

681
00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:56,680
Just propane tank.

682
00:43:58,660 --> 00:43:59,640
And, et cetera, et cetera.

683
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:06,100
So we're asking for a relief from that 40 feet requirement down to the 20 feet, which is right against his fence.

684
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:14,480
We still have to upgrade the road, we believe safety feed is adequate through there since there's only going to be seven tracks that use a total.

685
00:44:14,940 --> 00:44:19,160
Currently there are spots in the county that serve four to six tracks with forty foot wide access.

686
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,560
So we're adding twenty foot wide to it.

687
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:23,940
Also dedicated as public use as an easement.

688
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Those are the two items that we're put on this as conditions and these are our solutions we'd like to be able to go with twenty foot wide away through there.

689
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,140
It seems to be very viable and we will name the road.

690
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:40,560
Okay, any questions?

691
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Not at this time shown.

692
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:46,620
Mr. Chairman, if you, Mr. Hanson, is there still some

693
00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:48,820
Contention about the road name change with the neighbors to the south?

694
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:51,080
He said originally they did not sign off.

695
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:51,580
How did he still?

696
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:54,160
So we went, we had to go to all the neighbors on the south.

697
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,200
The neighbor nearest on the south.

698
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:59,220
The Mr. Wallman's track agreed to it.

699
00:44:59,420 --> 00:44:59,980
The neighbor's foot.

700
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,940
Under the South, because he's addressed off of 2015, didn't want to change his address. He's actually accesses from 208, so not quite sure why he's addressed off of 2015, but that's not a 2015 item, I think it's 2015, doesn't. Anyway, that's what the issue is, as they didn't want to change your address.

701
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:31,380
The one's the South 207, they actually come from, that's how their access is, and their access is only 40 feet wide, going up to Mr. Welm's property.

702
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,440
The person directly to the South, he agreed to, and he signed off on it, but the other two would not.

703
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,400
So, at that point in time, that killed it, we couldn't do it.

704
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,040
with the folks being the Board of County Commissioners, and we can simply name it, and you'll

705
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,860
if you approve it, then it's done. And they don't have a choice, but unfortunately, to

706
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:51,680
re-address their house.

707
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,940
Okay. Thanks, Shane.

708
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:58,280
Full report, please.

709
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:11,220
Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, just a normal Jeremy County Planning

710
00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:15,300
for Jeremy County Comprehensive Planning Identifies the Area as Ag and Range Land.

711
00:46:15,820 --> 00:46:19,260
I would like to know this was provided in accordance with Section 1, 3104,

712
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:23,320
public nose was sent to six surrounding property owners within five hundred feet with no written

713
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,380
comments received outstanding agency comments concern the access easement is discussed

714
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:32,260
of 40 40 feet shown on the proposed flat. There were improvements within this widened

715
00:46:32,260 --> 00:46:36,020
easement that have been in place for several years and complied with the access easement

716
00:46:36,020 --> 00:46:40,540
in place at the time of construction. With the widened easement, the engineers asking that

717
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:44,780
these improvements be removed since they now encroach and agreeing that between the

718
00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:48,680
engineering applicant has not been reached as to the removal of these improvements from

719
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,980
new easement, they are asking the commissioners to resolve this matter, and if the applicant

720
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:58,440
is required to name the easement, based on evidence provided and is included in the world

721
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,740
in Aussie and the file staff states that a this application meets the criteria for a small

722
00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:09,360
subdivision permit and platform, so it's a section 4,500, and they happen to be this

723
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,940
application is in conformance or section 4,102 governing the subdivision permit and

724
00:47:13,940 --> 00:47:18,560
That vacation and see this application is in conformance with Section 24104, governing

725
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,140
the land use zone district, and that the Board of County Commissioners may approve

726
00:47:22,140 --> 00:47:26,180
the Vacation of Track 2, World and Ranchest Aid, Second Firing, and approve the SNOS

727
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:31,160
subdivision permit and part for Walden, Hocienda, and about the findings, the fact A, B, and

728
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,000
C are the staff report with two conditions, one, the Vacation of Track 2, World and Ranchest

729
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,980
Aid, Second Firing, will become effective upon recordation of the Walden, Hocienda, subdivision

730
00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:46,580
to all agency review comments must be addressed prior to plot recordation and with that I stand

731
00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:49,500
for any questions. Any questions from Mr. Arnold?

732
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,480
I want to see you at any time.

733
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,120
So Mr. Chair, so the question about the name change, I'm not seeing that in our conditions,

734
00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:04,160
I'm not seeing that in the notes either.

735
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,320
And also the variants?

736
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,820
In the variants.

737
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:31,660
Mr. Chairman, through Commissioner Thompson, that will have to be ad hoc at the end of the conditions to require a road name change in compliance with the road naming standards in the LCLUR and effectively approve the 60 foot right of way rather than the full 80 foot in that section.

738
00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:35,660
And I might ask for some clarification through you, Mr. Chairman, to the applicant,

739
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:40,320
are we we're only doing that for this section, where the existing infrastructure is,

740
00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:43,640
where for the entirety of the right of way.

741
00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:47,640
Mr. Chancellor, Mr. Chair, through you the 20 feet that we would be dedicating

742
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,080
to the public use is sort of the entire length of Walden, House of Yanda.

743
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,500
Mr. Chairman, through you Commissioner Thompson, so effectively approving a 60-foot

744
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:07,360
right of way to construct a world residential roadway and then to approving a name change in compliance

745
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:13,000
with the land use regulations. Effectively, if there's any parties that aren't agreeable

746
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,680
to the name change, that's where the board comes into play. Ideally, from a planning standpoint,

747
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:23,760
we like to have these internal roadways named simply because of emergency response. Well,

748
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,600
noted on the map previously shown that we have a lot of houses that are addressed from

749
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,160
road 208 that are probably a half a mile away from the actual roadway themselves, so adding

750
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:42,000
additional roadway to the network and trying to clarify that is good for an emergency response

751
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,460
standpoint.

752
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,660
Again, we don't have all by and from out of parties, so would require an overright from

753
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:48,640
the body.

754
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Christian Thompson.

755
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,500
Mr. Chair, what is the what's the name for the name of the road?

756
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,980
Mr. Chair, is there you walt and ran?

757
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,940
Mr. Chair,

758
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:24,250
also through you. It hasn't been placed on the flat yet because we didn't know we needed a name until the comments came back. And now the comments have come back. We explained that we had tried the name of previously, and that it had been the nine, not the nine, but we couldn't get the neighbors to sign off. So we are more than willing to name the road. As long as the commissioners approve it, it'll be done.

759
00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:28,210
Any other questions for Shane or Justin?

760
00:50:29,290 --> 00:50:31,390
Mr. Chair, I'm sure he's.

761
00:50:31,630 --> 00:50:33,090
This would be for Justin.

762
00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:36,370
We do have the Walden Ranch estates out on 138.

763
00:50:36,850 --> 00:50:39,270
Is that going to conflict with the road?

764
00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:43,250
Naming there and we'll be confusing to our first responders.

765
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:48,230
Mr. Chairman, through you commissioner, he if I was just going to look at that.

766
00:50:48,350 --> 00:50:52,130
So when I mentioned that we wanted it to be in compliance with the LCLUR,

767
00:50:52,130 --> 00:50:54,470
We definitely want it to be a unique identifier,

768
00:50:58,350 --> 00:50:59,050
and I'm not sure.

769
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:06,220
We would just verify through that through this process that it's a unique road name.

770
00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:11,080
I'm not seeing that we have a bonafide road name, but we don't want it to get confused

771
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,000
for emergency response services.

772
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:14,680
Follow up.

773
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,980
I bring that to your attention, because there is a Somerset Drive into code of crossing and

774
00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:25,980
members that drive out east of Cheyenne and veryably the addresses get mixed up.

775
00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:28,620
Thank you, Commissioner Heath.

776
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,140
Commissioner Thompson, do you want to say anything else?

777
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Mr. Chairman, do you actually like to get public's works opinion on the, with the roadway

778
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,240
if they have any comments or concerns with that roadway?

779
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Mr. Chairman, do you, thank you, Mr. Chairman's answer.

780
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:47,740
This is something that we addressed in our comments with them.

781
00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:52,300
the initial pad did show that the right away was narrower. From a public works perspective,

782
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:57,020
we always try to enforce the 80-foot right-of-way rule. As outlined in the Lairman County

783
00:51:57,020 --> 00:52:02,260
Land use regulations. The question that we would raise is, should anything be developed to the

784
00:52:02,260 --> 00:52:09,200
west of this road in the future, would in the 80-foot right-of-way be required? And if so, with that land owner,

785
00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:15,680
who's already dedicated 40 feet on their side be required to dedicate an additional 20?

786
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:32,480
We believe that this will be up to the commission ultimately to decide, but we do, from a public work standpoint, enforce the 80-foot right of way rule, and have requested that the additional 40 feet total be plotted with this action.

787
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,640
Mr. Hanson?

788
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:47,780
If I may, the 40 feet on the opposing section is a 40 foot easement. If that land were to be developed, it would have to be dedicated to the public and 60 foot right away would be easily doable.

789
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:56,620
Okay,

790
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,620
I think I'm at the public hearing.

791
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:06,780
All right, this is public hearing. If you'd like to come forward and speak on this item, please do so now anybody online?

792
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,620
There are no comments on my at this time.

793
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:15,060
One more time in the room, public hearing, like to speak on this item, please come forward.

794
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:18,960
Public hearing, having met its purpose, public hearing is closed, commissioners.

795
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:32,040
Mr. Chairman, following the review of the staff report, I moved to approve the

796
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,780
vacation of Track 2, Walden Track Estate, Second Filing, and approve the small subdivision

797
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:39,160
permanent platform for Walden House C and a subdivision, and adopt the findings of

798
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,520
facts A, B, and C of the staff report with two conditions.

799
00:53:42,020 --> 00:53:45,560
Condition 1, the vacation of Track 2, Walden Ranch Estate, Second Filing, will become

800
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,260
effective upon the recordation of Walden House C and a subdivision, and condition

801
00:53:49,260 --> 00:53:52,300
Number two, all agency will be comments must be addressed prior to

802
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:53,240
flat recordation.

803
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,160
Second, okay, we have a motion in a second.

804
00:53:57,540 --> 00:53:58,860
Mr. Chair, Commissioner Thompson.

805
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,400
We're going to make an amendment to add condition number three

806
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:09,560
that a 20, that the 40 foot requirement in the comments

807
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,860
be reduced to 20 foot along the western section of the property.

808
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,920
Okay, does the amendment have a second?

809
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,240
Second, we have an second on the amendment

810
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:28,600
So, we're looking to amend the motion to reduce the easement from 40 to 20 feet on the west side.

811
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:35,220
Any comment on the motion on the amendment to the motion?

812
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:35,960
Any comment?

813
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,660
Commissioner Thompson.

814
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:40,240
Mr. Chair, I mean, the guy's got his fence there.

815
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,360
And so I mean, he didn't build it in the right way.

816
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:45,100
It's been there and we're going to require a right way.

817
00:54:45,980 --> 00:54:49,940
I'm a little uncomfortable making a right way where he's got that fence.

818
00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:52,880
And I think we're going to be fine with 20 foot.

819
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:57,360
So we'll do this in the net and then we'll all be done.

820
00:54:58,220 --> 00:54:59,420
Any other discussion on the amendment?

821
00:55:00,590 --> 00:55:12,510
Okay, roll call on the amendment. Commissioner Heath, Commissioner Holling said, aye, commissioner Thompson, aye, commissioner Salinas sir? Aye, chairman, aye. Commissioner Thompson,

822
00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:27,390
Mr. Chair, move to name the road, Walden Ranch Road, excuse me, move to amend the motion to add a fourth condition that we would name the road, Walden Ranch Road, sorry.

823
00:55:27,390 --> 00:55:37,610
So, I'm going to ask you to consider your motion being that the applicant named the

824
00:55:37,610 --> 00:55:45,230
road, a name that complies with the LCUR, road naming conditions, because we don't know

825
00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:47,150
for sure if that'll work yet.

826
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:48,790
Fair enough.

827
00:55:49,370 --> 00:55:50,430
I would change my mind.

828
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:53,630
So, what I said is what he said, and we're looking for a second.

829
00:55:53,850 --> 00:55:54,010
Second.

830
00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:55,250
Okay, we have a second.

831
00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:57,610
any discussion, discussion.

832
00:55:58,030 --> 00:56:01,230
So Mr. Chair, what exactly does that mean?

833
00:56:01,890 --> 00:56:05,390
So I think from what I can glean is that we have to make sure

834
00:56:05,390 --> 00:56:08,170
that there's not a very similar name else out there

835
00:56:08,170 --> 00:56:11,150
in the road database that there would be confusion.

836
00:56:11,690 --> 00:56:15,810
So if Walden Ranch road is not, if there's nothing

837
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:17,630
really close to it, we can go with that,

838
00:56:17,710 --> 00:56:19,070
but it just needs to make sure that it's compliant

839
00:56:19,070 --> 00:56:21,190
with the LCUR, so we're not approving a road name

840
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:22,230
that is non-compliant.

841
00:56:22,690 --> 00:56:24,030
So Mr. Chair, here's my concern.

842
00:56:24,030 --> 00:56:27,910
And it's the neighbor to the south that had problems with the name being changed before.

843
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:31,130
What if they want to name something totally different?

844
00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:34,250
I mean, I guess that's my concern here.

845
00:56:34,690 --> 00:56:40,170
And so what would it be better just to, so our condition will allow our staff to name the road.

846
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:50,210
And since there's no mention of Walden Ranch Road in the motion, because we took that out, the staff can just name it whatever.

847
00:56:53,330 --> 00:56:53,950
Mr. Arnold?

848
00:56:54,950 --> 00:57:00,230
Mr. Chairman, through you, Commissioner Thompson, so we'll look to see what name options

849
00:57:00,230 --> 00:57:00,570
are.

850
00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:05,290
It might be a good faith gesture with the neighbor to get some input on what that road

851
00:57:05,290 --> 00:57:08,550
gave should be as part of this application process.

852
00:57:08,970 --> 00:57:13,630
Again, it'll be up to the applicant's, applicants to decide, we'll just run it through our

853
00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:18,530
process to make sure it's a unique identifier and it works with our road systems.

854
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:19,770
That makes sense.

855
00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:20,370
Mr. Johnson.

856
00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:21,630
Ty wants one.

857
00:57:21,790 --> 00:57:22,550
It's a road.

858
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:24,270
Just throw that out there.

859
00:57:25,370 --> 00:57:26,210
I don't know that.

860
00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:29,130
Any other discussion on the amendment?

861
00:57:30,670 --> 00:57:32,210
Mr. Chair, Mr. Heath.

862
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:37,570
The only thing that I read at is we have not made it a practice to name roads and subdivisions.

863
00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:44,870
We've had some that we've had to maybe extend the road name into an area, but we have not made

864
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:51,870
has board a habit of trying to name roads within subdivisions. I don't know about you, but I have a hard time coming up.

865
00:57:52,010 --> 00:58:00,150
The names for my dog. Much less candy roads. Thank you commissioner Heath. Mr. Chair, I don't know. I don't recall it's ever been asked.

866
00:58:01,210 --> 00:58:03,570
I don't recall ever been asked to name a road until today.

867
00:58:05,150 --> 00:58:06,270
Okay. Any other discussion?

868
00:58:06,970 --> 00:58:08,350
Well, call please on the amendment.

869
00:58:09,350 --> 00:58:09,830
Commissioner.

870
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:13,270
Commissioner Heath.

871
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:13,770
Hi.

872
00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:15,450
Commissioner Hollingshead.

873
00:58:16,730 --> 00:58:17,330
Commissioner Thompson.

874
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:19,190
Commissioner's on, is there?

875
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:20,390
I, Chairman Mo.

876
00:58:20,610 --> 00:58:22,430
Are there any further amendments?

877
00:58:23,230 --> 00:58:26,450
Just a pointed clarification that we are not officially naming the road.

878
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:29,210
We are just saying that a name will be selected that applies

879
00:58:29,210 --> 00:58:31,190
with our current land use regulations.

880
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:33,390
That name will be determined by the applicant.

881
00:58:34,310 --> 00:58:37,950
Hopefully, may we do their due diligence for the neighbor to come up with something that is.

882
00:58:39,090 --> 00:58:39,690
Sounds good.

883
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:42,370
Okay, any other discussion?

884
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:45,670
Okay, roll call on the motion as amended.

885
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:49,450
Commissioner Heath.

886
00:58:50,370 --> 00:58:51,850
Commissioner Hollingshead.

887
00:58:52,570 --> 00:58:53,130
Commissioner Thompson.

888
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:53,930
I.

889
00:58:54,010 --> 00:58:54,210
Commissioner.

890
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:55,070
Chairman.

891
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:56,450
I.

892
00:58:56,610 --> 00:58:57,650
Next item, please.

893
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:58,950
Item 34.

894
00:58:59,350 --> 00:59:04,110
Public hearing regarding review and final action on a site plan for the bit of

895
00:59:04,110 --> 00:59:10,930
branch and events located in a portion of land situated in the north or of section 11.

896
00:59:11,330 --> 00:59:17,470
Township 14 North reigns in the west of the 6 p.m. Wyoming County, Wyoming.

897
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:20,750
Mr. Arnold. Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Justin Arnold,

898
00:59:20,810 --> 00:59:25,290
Wyoming County Planning, presenting on behalf of the Project Planner, Sonny and Portio.

899
00:59:25,790 --> 00:59:30,590
Reed of Ventures, LLC, DBA, Bidderio, Ranch and Events on behalf of Landowner Tony

900
00:59:30,590 --> 00:59:34,750
The Beatles submitted a site-plan application from the Bitterio Ranch and Events Project,

901
00:59:35,290 --> 00:59:39,830
the Class E Conditional Use Permit for this project was approved by the Board April 21st of

902
00:59:39,830 --> 00:59:40,610
2026.

903
00:59:41,230 --> 00:59:45,550
The purpose of this project and subsequent commercial site plans and middle as required is to

904
00:59:45,550 --> 00:59:49,630
continue the historic use of the business as a public event in recreational venue.

905
00:59:50,410 --> 00:59:55,330
The subject property is located in the land use zone district and consists of 39.97 acres.

906
00:59:55,850 --> 00:59:59,090
This rounding area is also zoneed land use zone district.

907
00:59:59,090 --> 00:59:59,890
the properties

908
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:15,080
This is currently accessed from Happy Jack Road, however, the applicant which wishes to move the access to Rush Creek Road, which is currently in design phase for submittal along with requiring a right of way permit through the Bureau of Land Management, which is still being processed to date.

909
01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:26,960
The applicant and Laramy County have received conceptual approvals with no concern from BLM staff as to the ultimately being, this ultimately being approved, I do believe, the other recreational permit.

910
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:39,800
And when we can't even use regulations or statutory provisions, include Section 1, 3100 governing public notice to 1, 2, 4, 1, or 4 governing land use own districts and Section 3, 1, 1, or 9 governing commercial projects.

911
01:00:40,340 --> 01:00:48,820
And with that, we do have Mrs. Rido and her party here to answer any questions you may have to the project and provide some information.

912
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:49,800
Ms. Rido.

913
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:53,560
Good afternoon.

914
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,960
Thank you for reviewing the final packet for our onsite plan.

915
01:00:58,180 --> 01:01:02,340
I appreciate the opportunity to go through those details of the plan to ensure that we

916
01:01:02,340 --> 01:01:05,760
have addressed the requirements necessary for your approval.

917
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,700
One of the most significant issues throughout this project has been access.

918
01:01:11,180 --> 01:01:17,140
I believe it is important to explain how we arrived at the access route presented to you

919
01:01:17,140 --> 01:01:18,160
in the final plan.

920
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:26,400
The previous bit of wire ranch operation utilized an access route for approximately 40 years and

921
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,640
that accommodated its many guests.

922
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:36,380
When we began negotiations for the purchase of the ranch in April of 2025, we attempted

923
01:01:36,380 --> 01:01:38,080
to preserve that access.

924
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,740
For approximately five months, while also working to complete the purchase of the prospect property,

925
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:48,660
we attempted to negotiate access through the seller and the neighboring properties.

926
01:01:49,340 --> 01:01:55,700
Ultimately, we were unable to secure the agreement and that would allow us to use that route for our intended operations.

927
01:01:56,500 --> 01:02:00,620
As a result, we were forced to develop an alternative means of access.

928
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:09,300
I encourage the county and the residents of Table Mountain to recognize that hit that history when understanding the new route proposed.

929
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:17,000
This was not our first choice. It was a route we pursued after the previous access was unavailable to us for business use.

930
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:25,960
There has also been attempts to challenge our ability to use the residential access to our property, including access to necessarily to necessary.

931
01:02:26,860 --> 01:02:34,200
Access necessary simply to reach our home, courses, trash, service, personal property, and the like.

932
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:39,320
Regardless of the disagreements surrounding access, our response has been to work through their

933
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:44,340
appropriate legal and governmental processes rather than to go outside of them.

934
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,320
The historical operation of Biddle-Wire Ranch include commercial trail riding,

935
01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:54,960
kids camp, group hiking, and more on the surrounding public lands.

936
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:02,100
Whatever had occurred historically, our responsibility is to operate differently moving forward.

937
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:14,320
We are working directly with a BOM management and other agencies so that the recreational use of the public land associated with our ranch is properly authorized and managed.

938
01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:17,860
There is oversight today, and we welcome that oversight.

939
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,560
Our intention is not to just benefit from the public land surrounding this ranch.

940
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:30,980
We want to help preserve it, protect it, and provide the opportunity for members of the public to experience Wyoming's landscape and Western heritage.

941
01:03:31,780 --> 01:03:39,420
I recognize that county road 109 is not an ideal road to add additional traffic, and that is

942
01:03:39,420 --> 01:03:46,060
a legitimate concern for residents. Our guests will be encouraged to stay below posted speed limits

943
01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:52,660
within the subdivision, a controlled speed, less than 30 miles per hour, provides a safer

944
01:03:52,660 --> 01:03:59,440
and respectful approach, but also allowing guests to appreciate the area that leaves them to

945
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:04,360
on any woodhouse work creation area and the new entrance to our ranch.

946
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:08,400
There will be an increase in traffic associated with our operation.

947
01:04:08,860 --> 01:04:10,620
I do not want to make light of that.

948
01:04:11,060 --> 01:04:16,460
What I can commit to is managing our guests, employees, vendors and operations

949
01:04:16,460 --> 01:04:20,900
in a matter that emphasizes reduced speeds, wildlife awareness,

950
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,840
and respect for the people who live along that route.

951
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:29,660
Wildlife protection has been one of the most important considerations in our project.

952
01:04:30,260 --> 01:04:34,320
We have communicated both with the BLM and the Wyoming Gaming Fish.

953
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:41,560
We understand that we are operating in an area containing important wildlife habitat and public resources.

954
01:04:42,140 --> 01:04:44,260
And we take that responsibility seriously.

955
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,720
I wish the existing two track road on the BLM could simply remain untouched.

956
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:56,500
However, that road must also satisfy the access and emergency response for our property.

957
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:59,980
The BLM requires a minimum road with and the emergency.

958
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,280
The Access requirements necessitate additional width. While those improvements will change the existing

959
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:12,740
two track, there will also mean there will also be a benefit. A better roadway can encourage vehicles

960
01:05:12,740 --> 01:05:19,800
already using the public land to remain on designated road rather than traveling off-road. Our goal is to

961
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:25,580
make the improvements necessary for safe and compliant access while remaining sensitive to wildlife

962
01:05:25,580 --> 01:05:31,800
the surrounding landscape. The compromise to allow us to use existing mature resources to build the

963
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:37,040
road will help us preserve the beauty of the land. From the beginning of this process,

964
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,640
I have worked with Andy Bartell and Adele because I recognize that the proposed

965
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:47,140
brush creek road improvements will have a direct impact on their property. Included in our

966
01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:51,460
packet are the engineered road plans as well as the correspondence from the Laramie County

967
01:05:51,460 --> 01:05:57,580
district addressing portions of that route that cannot fully meet certain standards and

968
01:05:57,580 --> 01:06:04,040
the mitigating measures proposed for those locations. Those measurements include two separate

969
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:10,060
emergency pull-outs designed to improve emergency access and vehicle passage. Both the county

970
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:15,280
right away and the bill on right away access roads will be constructed and maintained in accordance

971
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:22,520
with the requirements and the approvals of Laramie County, the BLM, emergency emergency services

972
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,880
and wildlife protections. Throughout this process, we have demonstrated that we are willing to do

973
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,920
the work that is required of us. We have worked with Laramie County, County Commissioners,

974
01:06:32,980 --> 01:06:39,660
County Planning, BLM, Wyoming, Gaming Fish, Laramie County Fire Authority, Laramie County Fire

975
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:46,800
warden, the deputy fire warden, a.m. are flight for life, the way in glyphor division, environmental health,

976
01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:52,040
public works, engineers, road professionals, biologists, and the previous owner, operator,

977
01:06:52,540 --> 01:06:58,920
who have helped us understand the responsible operation of this property. I am extremely grateful

978
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:04,420
for everyone's assistance. We understand the approval of this site plan comes with responsibilities,

979
01:07:04,420 --> 01:07:06,700
and we do accept those responsibilities.

980
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,400
Now, matter how hard I have tried in this extraordinary experience

981
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,680
to make people understand my words and actions,

982
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,920
I cannot accommodate everyone.

983
01:07:17,180 --> 01:07:19,700
And since this is my public comment, I just want to say,

984
01:07:19,860 --> 01:07:23,820
I serve a mighty God who I want to honor for this amazing opportunity.

985
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:25,580
I hope to touch lives.

986
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,920
I hope for people to come for healing, joy, rest and fun.

987
01:07:29,220 --> 01:07:32,440
I have a thousand ideas and visions on how I want to grow

988
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,660
and transition into a treasured asset for our community.

989
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,020
That is where my focus needs to be.

990
01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:41,320
I hope to make proud all the folks who have helped us get there.

991
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:44,020
There is not a day that goes by that I don't pray for peace,

992
01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:46,300
and I will always give thanks for this endeavor.

993
01:07:46,940 --> 01:07:49,880
I am an entrepreneur, and that's how I see the world.

994
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,380
Find something you love to do, work very hard in it,

995
01:07:53,380 --> 01:07:54,580
and it will bring you reward.

996
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:57,220
This has been a journey to say the least,

997
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,060
and there will undoubtedly continue to be challenges,

998
01:08:00,060 --> 01:08:05,300
But our family is excited to move forward and put a plan in place to begin operation.

999
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,380
We intend to do this right.

1000
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,020
We intend to be good stewards of what has been entrusted to us.

1001
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,620
Thank you for your consideration.

1002
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:14,940
And if you have any questions.

1003
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,040
Any questions at this time?

1004
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:18,920
Okay.

1005
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:19,800
Thank you.

1006
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:20,880
Full staff report, please.

1007
01:08:22,420 --> 01:08:25,380
Mr. Chairman, members of the Board of Justice and Honor, Jeremy County Planning.

1008
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,680
The Jeremy County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area as Ag and Range Land.

1009
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,600
This area is outside of the Plancheian future land use areas.

1010
01:08:34,540 --> 01:08:51,980
At the time of this report agency review comments are still being addressed mainly access to this side of the applicant, which is to access the parcel from Bush Creek Road, which will require it to be brought up to LCL, you are current standards of 24 feet wide or is you sawing your staff report, the alternative design to be approved by this body.

1011
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,160
Private access through BLM land will be 20 feet wide.

1012
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,300
The applicant is working in good faith with BLM to establish a private access road through

1013
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:03,000
this portion of land and we'll bring it to BLM standards, which are attached to this

1014
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,000
report, as well as an approved access easement.

1015
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,160
The applicant is working with environmental health to bring property up to their standards

1016
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,620
for commercial uses regarding septic at the end of the time.

1017
01:09:13,620 --> 01:09:18,100
At this time, the applicant is requesting phase one of the project to be allowed for smaller

1018
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:23,460
recreational uses, such as guided worse backwriting date nights, family nights, and guided

1019
01:09:23,460 --> 01:09:28,820
recreational hiking. This will allow a smaller scale operation and move forward now while the road

1020
01:09:28,820 --> 01:09:35,300
in access easement approval gets completed for the long-term easement, which will occur in

1021
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:41,040
phase two of the project this request as well as the preliminary road designer attached to the

1022
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,640
report for reference. Public notice was provided in comments have been attached to this report

1023
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:51,140
contained within the staff report. As previously stated, the board met on April 21st, 26,

1024
01:09:51,140 --> 01:09:59,700
We've got in the Class C conditional use permit and approved it with a VOTA 5B0 based on section 3109 of the LCL you are commercial site plans

1025
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:10,190
Staffions, this application is in conformance with the plans and policies of Wermy County, and based on evidence provided staff recommends the board find the following in regard to phase one of the bit of WIO.

1026
01:10:10,190 --> 01:10:15,790
So wrench and a vets center that a this application for phase one meets the criteria for commercial projects,

1027
01:10:15,970 --> 01:10:20,330
pursue a to section 3 1 1 0 9 of the 20 25 LCOE RB.

1028
01:10:20,730 --> 01:10:26,670
This application for phase one is in conformance of section 2 4 1 0 4, the 20 25 LCOE R.

1029
01:10:27,150 --> 01:10:33,510
See, sufficient infrastructure exists to a last Moscow recreation and family or unit activities face one of the bit of

1030
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:39,510
project indeed. The record in this matter includes, but is not limited to the staff report

1031
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:44,930
documents present on the agenda and the entirety of the project file. Therefore,

1032
01:10:58,780 --> 01:10:59,760
and the second portion

1033
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,060
of that is the Lermy County Board of Commissioner may find the staff finds that this application

1034
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:09,100
for phase two of the bit of RIO projects shall meet the criteria for commercial projects pursuant

1035
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:16,740
section 3-1-1-9 of the 2025 LCLU R upon completion of the conditions here in an approval of the

1036
01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:18,600
Wermy County Planning and Public Works.

1037
01:11:18,780 --> 01:11:23,340
See this application for Phase 2 upon completion of the conditions as described will be in

1038
01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:28,940
conformance with Section 2-4-104 of the 2025 LCLU R governing the Land Use Zone District.

1039
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:35,640
See the application is in its design phase for access on Brush Creek Road in that an application

1040
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,140
for right away on BLM property has been submitted and is currently pending review and approval

1041
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:46,440
by that agency. I understand that they have a recreational permit. The NEPA review on the application

1042
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:54,480
may not be completed and any final approval granted until 2027. Indeed due to the limitations on space

1043
01:11:54,480 --> 01:12:00,760
and topography, the access route on brush creek may comply with reduced width, has indicated

1044
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,540
in the incorporated letter of August 19th, 2026 from the Lermy County Fire Authority and with the

1045
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:12,160
Lermy County Emergency Management Office rather than full compliance with county road standards

1046
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:18,480
E. The record in this matter includes but is not limited to the staff report documents present

1047
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:25,520
on the agenda and the entirety of the project file. And I believe that covers it and I'm happy to answer

1048
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,100
any questions from the body. Any questions for Justin at this time?

1049
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:32,680
Okay, we're going to go ahead and open up the public comment.

1050
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,600
I'm going to go online first if you'd like to speak and you're online.

1051
01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:38,800
Please raise your hand.

1052
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:40,600
Anybody online?

1053
01:12:42,890 --> 01:12:42,950
Okay.

1054
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:47,530
Go ahead.

1055
01:12:58,910 --> 01:12:59,230
Ms. Miller?

1056
01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:11,140
Online, would you like to testify?

1057
01:13:15,530 --> 01:13:16,570
And try one more time.

1058
01:13:16,730 --> 01:13:19,050
If you're online and like to speak, please go for it now.

1059
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,260
And move on to testimony in the room.

1060
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,520
Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission.

1061
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,500
My name is John Iskard.

1062
01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:34,920
I reside at 1320 Bobcat Trail.

1063
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,220
Thank you for this opportunity to provide in.

1064
01:13:37,220 --> 01:13:44,300
But I really want to, every story, there's two sides.

1065
01:13:44,740 --> 01:13:48,060
Ms. Riddle, just spoke about how they've tried everything

1066
01:13:48,060 --> 01:13:55,360
to be good, law-abiding neighbors, just is not so.

1067
01:13:56,700 --> 01:13:59,600
For instance, you mentioned that we have fought her

1068
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,860
for trash removal, getting her personal items out of the thing.

1069
01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:11,200
Just isn't the case. I've sent her communication saying let's work something out. Let's let's let you

1070
01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:13,700
Be allowed to get those things

1071
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:14,860
yesterday

1072
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,940
semi got stuck on our little two track line road

1073
01:14:19,940 --> 01:14:26,860
Had to necessitate it a tow truck a big commercial great big tow truck that had to

1074
01:14:26,860 --> 01:14:29,820
tow this semi out. That is not

1075
01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:34,760
the retrieval of personal items as it was portrayed to you

1076
01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:44,940
and more and more on that, but just know that the upset in our neighborhood is much different than has been portrayed.

1077
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:57,580
And I'd like to just say that consideration of any plan, which doesn't exclusively use a brush creek road, it isn't warranted.

1078
01:14:57,580 --> 01:14:59,500
It will force them to trespass.

1079
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,680
Again, and further, they don't have access to wild cat trail. They've continued to use wild cat trail, with commercial vehicles.

1080
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:17,320
That semi- yesterday, that was not the first instance of that. We've had several of these.

1081
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,140
It's the first one that needed a tow truck to pull them out,

1082
01:15:23,380 --> 01:15:27,860
but they just have ignored that. They bullied their way into it.

1083
01:15:27,860 --> 01:15:33,440
This has put the issue onto the Sheriff's Department plate and we're reluctant to do that.

1084
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:40,160
We know the Sheriff has bigger and better things to do than worry about us calling each time for trespassing.

1085
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:45,520
We don't want to do that, but I think we'll be forced to do that.

1086
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,520
They violated the conditions set by you, the Commission, and the Planning Commission.

1087
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,520
The limit was 100 people maximum.

1088
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:03,620
They had a wedding, a commercial wedding that was advertised on their website, had 115 guests,

1089
01:16:03,980 --> 01:16:08,440
plus a ton of staff and everything else that went through Wildcat Trail.

1090
01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:15,380
These are the things that upset us that we don't know how best to deal with.

1091
01:16:17,140 --> 01:16:19,140
There was alcohol served.

1092
01:16:19,740 --> 01:16:25,180
They didn't have the liquor license, at least two venues where liquor has been served.

1093
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:27,880
Again, commercial activities.

1094
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,460
These aren't private or residents of things.

1095
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,420
These are big commercial events.

1096
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:41,920
I'd also like to speak about the engineer's report on the traffic study.

1097
01:16:42,180 --> 01:16:48,340
In his report he talks about that it's not required because the traffic will be less than

1098
01:16:48,340 --> 01:16:55,700
100 vehicles, 100 trips, and that just isn't so, they're first, again, they're first

1099
01:16:55,700 --> 01:17:04,480
event there was well in excess of the 100 trips, 115 people plus the staff, all that

1100
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:07,300
well in excess, and that's just one event.

1101
01:17:09,500 --> 01:17:15,260
The engineers report does not address the local traffic, the people that live there.

1102
01:17:16,060 --> 01:17:18,540
And no shuttles were used.

1103
01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:27,160
They mentioned, at first, they mentioned back during planning commission presentation, they

1104
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,900
would use shuttles for all of them.

1105
01:17:30,220 --> 01:17:36,360
Then they came back and said, we're going to use shuttles for 75 events, venues that have

1106
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,020
more than 75 people.

1107
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,840
Just had the wedding, 115 people plus all the staff.

1108
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:55,040
No shuttles, so I just encourage you to please require a full and complete traffic study.

1109
01:17:55,500 --> 01:18:00,240
I think that's very, very warranted.

1110
01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:07,560
And then as John Douglas, he's a world-renowned pro-filer, as he said,

1111
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:14,200
The past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, I believe that to be very, very true.

1112
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:22,220
And so as we look at their past behavior up to this point, we can expect more of that and more extreme behavior.

1113
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:31,960
The viewshed just moments ago, she talked about how they want to preserve the viewshed.

1114
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:40,980
However, what they've done is erected these great big neon signs, and must be eight foot tall with the address.

1115
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,000
Okay, on the hilltop.

1116
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:45,840
That's not preserving the view shed.

1117
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:52,120
They also spoke about changing the address from Happy Jack to Brush Creek.

1118
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,220
That sign talks about the 47-y Happy Jack address.

1119
01:18:56,220 --> 01:19:00,100
Well, down, this isn't doable from happy deck.

1120
01:19:00,340 --> 01:19:03,840
This is doable to our folks that live on wildcat.

1121
01:19:05,340 --> 01:19:09,760
Yeah, we have the pictures of that.

1122
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:14,880
And so again, speaking out both sides of their mouths, but the actions, and that's what

1123
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:21,140
I want to really emphasize is that what they've done in the past is that we're going to

1124
01:19:21,140 --> 01:19:24,560
do a few more and more of that.

1125
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:30,980
on the traffic. Traffic has been reduced. This summer being especially dry, summer, that

1126
01:19:30,980 --> 01:19:40,320
dust has been very, very theft and consistent. Again, complete, complete disregard for the

1127
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:48,120
easement and the revocation of that easement. Day erected signs on Happy Jack, directing the

1128
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:57,400
in wedding venue traffic, down while in the cat, again, not good neighborly actions.

1129
01:19:58,740 --> 01:19:59,740
Road damage.

1130
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,900
We've had road damage. Again, you get a semi-stuck. You've towed truck pulling it out. You're going to expect more of that.

1131
01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:15,700
And then, per the BLM's response, they're not going to make a decision until the earliest January of

1132
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:16,460
2027.

1133
01:20:18,820 --> 01:20:22,980
We really should wait for that, because they're doing a full and complete review.

1134
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:29,080
And let's just wait for that. There's no need to rush this. Let's wait for all the pieces.

1135
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:33,480
And the Commission and the Planning Commission in the past have said that.

1136
01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:40,080
Yeah, let's wait for the BLNs response, and we think that that's appropriate in this case.

1137
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:52,240
And then also under Wyoming law and your own comprehensive plan, there's a duty to protect the natural resources of our county.

1138
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,920
Wyoming Game and Fish has determined this area to be critical, you'll dare win or range.

1139
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:07,420
Brush Creek has been designated a yellow ribbon trout stream and that runs within 200 feet of their main venue.

1140
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:13,540
All these things will be studied by the BLM and other governmental agencies.

1141
01:21:15,700 --> 01:21:26,300
The County Comprehensive Plan, your county county power, I'm sorry, our County Comprehensive Plan, explicitly identifies Western area of our county

1142
01:21:26,300 --> 01:21:33,700
as needing protection for the viewshed while life and steps should be taken to minimize the impact.

1143
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:40,200
Eight foot knee on signs on hilltop certainly do not comport with that requirement.

1144
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,380
And with that, I just again urge you to please.

1145
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:50,120
There's no need to rush this and I stand for any questions that you might have.

1146
01:21:50,780 --> 01:21:51,400
Any questions?

1147
01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:54,300
No, not at the time.

1148
01:21:54,340 --> 01:21:54,840
Thank you, sir.

1149
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,400
And I just want to tell you, are these signs still there?

1150
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,660
Are they purely used to direct that wedding thing?

1151
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,900
Oh, these were after the wedding, these are very recent, and they are there.

1152
01:22:05,140 --> 01:22:10,080
Okay, and maybe in an attempt to make sure they don't trespass on other property, or that's a speculation.

1153
01:22:10,380 --> 01:22:10,660
I'm not sure.

1154
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:11,620
See it from OK.

1155
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,160
So, you have to get through this fast to see them.

1156
01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:15,820
Gosh, I think.

1157
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,200
Thank you, sir.

1158
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:17,940
Ms. Chair.

1159
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,160
Would you, Commissioner Heath?

1160
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:20,360
I do have a question.

1161
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:24,820
What size of the truck was it that got stuck in there the other day?

1162
01:22:24,820 --> 01:22:31,760
is it an 18-wheeler? Yes, yes a full-on family. Okay now I have another question to follow up with that

1163
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:37,900
if I'm a Mr. Chair. Do you or your neighbors ever received delivery of furniture or appliances

1164
01:22:37,900 --> 01:22:47,620
say from American furniture or something along that line? Mr. Chairman, a certainly they do not

1165
01:22:47,620 --> 01:22:51,560
by semis, but yes, certainly we all receive deliveries.

1166
01:22:52,780 --> 01:23:00,980
So I guess my question then is, if a semis too big for that road and an American furniture delivery

1167
01:23:00,980 --> 01:23:08,980
truck can get through on that road, perhaps then there might be an option to limit the size of trucks

1168
01:23:08,980 --> 01:23:12,240
So can you use that road?

1169
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,720
Mr. Chairman, Commissioner,

1170
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,980
I think the point I'm trying to make is, yes, if that is through

1171
01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:28,440
brush creek road, yes, I think that 24-foot width would accommodate American furniture

1172
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:31,060
trucks, larger delivery trucks as well as some ways.

1173
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:38,840
This came down Wildcat, again, they're forcing that traffic through Wildcat and that is not

1174
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:45,420
made for semis or even large American furniture trucks.

1175
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,240
UPS can get there, that's the end there.

1176
01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:51,390
Thank you.

1177
01:23:51,570 --> 01:23:52,190
Thank you.

1178
01:23:53,410 --> 01:23:54,250
Thank you.

1179
01:23:54,250 --> 01:23:54,730
Thank you, sir.

1180
01:23:55,130 --> 01:23:58,430
And I just ask when you come forward if you can make sure that you speak into the mic just so

1181
01:23:58,430 --> 01:24:01,010
we can make sure folks online can hear it.

1182
01:24:02,510 --> 01:24:06,870
I have pictures of the truck being towed out if you need it.

1183
01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:07,910
It's really not.

1184
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:14,390
I'm very aware of how big a semiaz my son drives one so but if we can just yeah

1185
01:24:16,090 --> 01:24:22,710
My name is Joe Zimmerman. I live on Wildcatch 1370 Wildcatch Trail and

1186
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,820
I would like to

1187
01:24:25,820 --> 01:24:32,680
Back up and support what are H.O.A. President has been talking about all but also introduce some new things

1188
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,580
And I am representing all of the Wildcatch Trail residents

1189
01:24:36,340 --> 01:24:40,880
because we've been most directly impacted in the near term and

1190
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:58,540
It's not the size of the truck necessarily in the particular instance yesterday and also there were 7 or 8 other construction type trucks pick-up trucks with ladders and things like that that also used our road the point is they were violating the residential use only

1191
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:28,280
We have revoked. So that's really the point, not the size of the truck, but yeah, some I shouldn't be being used. And I'd like to point out that in the Laramie County notes of the packet with this application, it mentions that all the residential permits will have to be changed to commercial, because of the nature of the business.

1192
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:35,920
Well, that means everything that comes down that road to do any kind of maintenance or construction or repair work or whatever

1193
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:43,540
is in violation of the residential use only clause for a while cat trail. It is a single lane road.

1194
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,420
So that's the immediate concern we have is the increased traffic on our road.

1195
01:25:53,020 --> 01:25:58,540
It's at least quadrupled, and I would say most of it with the exception of family get

1196
01:25:58,540 --> 01:26:04,140
together and want not on the weekends is in violation of the easement because it is in support

1197
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:06,540
of the business side of it.

1198
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:13,680
We are also concerned, of course, as the table mountain people are with the noise level.

1199
01:26:14,180 --> 01:26:21,400
The planning commission had recommended a decibel limit, and yet during the hearing

1200
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:26,700
In April, that limit was done away with, so we're concerned about that in the long term

1201
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:28,480
once the venue gets up and operate.

1202
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,860
And of course, we're also concerned about disturbing wildlife.

1203
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:39,660
Just this morning, one of the work trucks going up there, I saw startled a group of doze

1204
01:26:39,660 --> 01:26:43,380
and fawns, and they scattered the, you know, along Wildcat Trail.

1205
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,520
Now, if this was at 10 o'clock at night with people that had been drinking, because they're

1206
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:48,460
not using shuttles.

1207
01:26:48,460 --> 01:26:51,960
You know, it's going to happen.

1208
01:26:54,990 --> 01:27:01,010
Additionally, as John had mentioned about, you know, past behavior is a good example of

1209
01:27:01,970 --> 01:27:04,010
a particular future behavior.

1210
01:27:05,210 --> 01:27:14,890
The applicants have shown a blatant disregard for the use of our road, and its residential use only status.

1211
01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:22,310
The applicant has flagrantly trespassed on neighbor's lands.

1212
01:27:22,510 --> 01:27:28,030
We have photos of her on one of the neighbor's lands, where there are clearly no trespassing

1213
01:27:28,030 --> 01:27:28,770
signs.

1214
01:27:30,850 --> 01:27:35,470
In the proposal, they say they want to preserve the scenic quality and rural character

1215
01:27:36,210 --> 01:27:37,570
of the area.

1216
01:27:37,570 --> 01:27:44,290
and yet they put up these signs. I think as a pope in the eye as a spiteful

1217
01:27:45,190 --> 01:27:51,030
gesture because the only person that can see it on my house sees it and one

1218
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:55,030
other resident sees it so and you can hardly see it when you're down on the road

1219
01:27:55,030 --> 01:28:01,110
unless you look up. I like I said I think it was a spiteful gesture on their

1220
01:28:01,110 --> 01:28:01,870
part.

1221
01:28:04,290 --> 01:28:14,630
So that to me talks about character. They also claimed actually one of the neighbors

1222
01:28:14,630 --> 01:28:19,350
stopped a man at the end of my driveway because he was lost. He was looking for a bit

1223
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:26,810
of a while and he said his son was renting it. Their applicant lied to me and the

1224
01:28:26,810 --> 01:28:34,230
directly at the top of the road, we were just sitting there chatting and we said, well, that's

1225
01:28:34,230 --> 01:28:37,410
why we're welcome the easement because of all these violations and you're renting it.

1226
01:28:37,530 --> 01:28:41,310
She said, we're not renting it. I don't know why a man would have said he was looking for

1227
01:28:41,310 --> 01:28:47,990
better, why oh, because his son was renting it if it wasn't true. Also, there's a water permit

1228
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:55,410
that they pulled where it states the house will be used as a verbal in the summer. So again,

1229
01:28:55,410 --> 01:28:57,590
that's commercial use.

1230
01:29:00,940 --> 01:29:06,330
So, during the phase one plan, if it is approved, please don't,

1231
01:29:08,060 --> 01:29:13,400
how do they plan to access it? The rush creek is just a little too track and then it turns

1232
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:26,960
into barely an ATV trail, very rugged, very steep. So, during this phase one, how do they plan to

1233
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:34,020
immediate concerns and then I just all of us have discussed after all of these various meetings.

1234
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:39,560
The purpose of the commission is to represent all of the county and that's the residence as well,

1235
01:29:39,740 --> 01:29:46,200
correct, not just development and it seems like through every meeting, liquor, license, planning

1236
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:53,760
commission, it's just a rubber stamp because the applicant filled out the form right and checked all the

1237
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:59,980
boxes. We don't feel like there's actual deliberation on weather.

1238
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,600
Further, the project is right for the area.

1239
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:10,200
The comments are done. The vote is taken. There's no thought

1240
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:15,260
that seems to be being put into it on as to whether it is really right for that neighborhood.

1241
01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:24,160
That is all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you.

1242
01:30:29,060 --> 01:30:29,480
Chairman,

1243
01:30:31,700 --> 01:30:33,440
fellow commissioners, thank

1244
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:39,580
for giving me the opportunity to speak before you today. My name is Karen Crown. I live in

1245
01:30:39,580 --> 01:30:45,340
Table Mountain and I am the vice president for the Home Owners Association. I first heard about

1246
01:30:46,340 --> 01:30:53,160
this proposal to gain access through our neighborhood for the new bit of WIO project.

1247
01:30:54,540 --> 01:31:03,080
Back in November of 25, we had an HOA meeting. It was an unusual HOA meeting. This was not

1248
01:31:03,860 --> 01:31:10,660
hotly discussed topic. This was everybody in agreement. Everybody in the room, which was

1249
01:31:10,660 --> 01:31:17,320
probably 60 people or so. Everybody was strongly opposed. Not one person was in favor.

1250
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:22,680
That has continued to be the case throughout. I've been to meetings where we've had lots

1251
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:29,780
of people show up. We do have 217 lots out here and about 160 families because some people

1252
01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:40,180
more than one lot. So we have no control over the county roads. We know that. That's up to you guys.

1253
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:46,160
However, we have to drive on them every day and it is a problem right now. In the more traffic,

1254
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:53,940
we have the more problem it's going to be. As far as potential mitigation,

1255
01:31:53,940 --> 01:32:00,840
And the HOA has no control over what our members say.

1256
01:32:01,180 --> 01:32:05,840
We can't negotiate for them in terms of mitigation factors or anything like that.

1257
01:32:06,340 --> 01:32:11,280
So everybody has their rights and they will be coming up and talking to you about it.

1258
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:19,340
I did want you to note that according to your Laramie County land use regulation section 13100

1259
01:32:19,340 --> 01:32:24,280
And the commercial review criteria, you are legally obligated to weigh the evidence presented

1260
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:31,520
by the public both today and in the past, we've had numerous people write letters starting

1261
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:36,160
back in November and continuing on.

1262
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:41,820
And one thing I noticed up here, when I was at another meeting, was there were a few people

1263
01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:47,060
that spoke in favor of this and a huge number that opposed the people who spoke in favor

1264
01:32:47,060 --> 01:32:52,180
were not people who were having their neighborhoods driven through or anything like that, there

1265
01:32:52,180 --> 01:32:58,360
were people who lived in town. And I think that's important to note because they're not

1266
01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:09,320
inflicted by this at all. I'd also like you to note that in your Lairmond County land use

1267
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:15,100
regulations, the purpose of that regulation is to promote the health safety and the general welfare

1268
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:20,420
of the citizens of Laramie County. There's a whole lot of us out here that feel like this is

1269
01:33:20,420 --> 01:33:27,980
not in our favor, this is not the general welfare, there's a lot of us and a few of them that

1270
01:33:27,980 --> 01:33:35,840
are safety issues with traffic, with kids, with horses, all that sort of thing. I'm going to have

1271
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:42,380
a number of people that are from table mountain are going to express their personal difficulties

1272
01:33:42,380 --> 01:33:50,040
and how this is affecting their life, and so I'll be pretty sure and just urge you to follow

1273
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:56,700
your guidelines, take into the consideration the concern, so the neighbors that are affected

1274
01:33:56,700 --> 01:34:06,160
by this, and don't approve this plan at this time. We request that you wait until see what

1275
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:12,280
LMSS, we've already had people driving around our neighborhood, lost, trying to find bit

1276
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:18,580
a while, and routinely coming through just, you know, like, I don't know if Google's sending

1277
01:34:18,580 --> 01:34:24,460
them there or how they're supposed to go, but what's going to happen? I mean, they can't get

1278
01:34:24,460 --> 01:34:30,500
through brush creek road. There's no way for that access. So, there's really no access

1279
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:59,960
for these, at this time, it just, you can't, you can maybe take a four-wheel drive, but I don't think so, you know, I've been up there once or twice and it's not like they're going to get people to drive through that, so that's the main concern for today is just that, you know, this is not the right time, January after BLM comes back and then after the road gets made, that would be the time to start the project.

1280
01:35:00,430 --> 01:35:06,370
Anyway, thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Thank you. Any questions from Ms. Cohen? Thank you, ma'am.

1281
01:35:15,010 --> 01:35:27,950
Hello, I'm Nancy Sleeper. I live on the table Mount Ranches. And my main thing is, I'd like this project to be taken out of its misery.

1282
01:35:27,950 --> 01:35:37,330
They, we're not opposed to businesses that, that or tourism that benefits the Wyomingites,

1283
01:35:38,130 --> 01:35:44,390
but we just don't want it to carve up our subdivision. This business

1284
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:54,490
could have explored other places without negative impact, like this would be.

1285
01:35:56,290 --> 01:36:02,490
I wanted to show that table mountain ranches, we can also celebrate,

1286
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:19,730
the life dreams for all of us is to live there, we, there's animals and that we have and deer and antelope that deer and antelope all belong to Wyoming, they live there too.

1287
01:36:19,730 --> 01:36:26,750
Folks at TMR have decided this is where they want to live the rest of their lives, our lives.

1288
01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:32,350
And we're all united in this and I'd like to show just a few pictures.

1289
01:36:33,470 --> 01:36:35,870
There's three things.

1290
01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:42,350
Just to show how nice it is there and we protect it.

1291
01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:45,210
We want it left on alone.

1292
01:36:45,210 --> 01:36:45,390
And

1293
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:08,120
that's the beginning of where they would go through,

1294
01:37:14,850 --> 01:37:17,530
and that's looking down the valley

1295
01:37:17,530 --> 01:37:25,690
there that traffic would go right through that valley, put lots of dust and disrupt animals

1296
01:37:25,690 --> 01:37:35,550
on the way, and so I think there's another one to that one and then there's one more

1297
01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:36,150
I think.

1298
01:37:48,050 --> 01:37:54,690
Well, just imagine really pretty pictures, and that's, that's why we have, we love that.

1299
01:37:55,670 --> 01:38:03,050
And there's nothing in this site plan that will mitigate the harm that it'll do to TMR,

1300
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:06,110
and Shayan Pass.

1301
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:12,610
And there's already event centers nearby.

1302
01:38:12,610 --> 01:38:18,230
There's White Antelope, Hines Lodge, world-class mountain biking at Kurt Gaudy,

1303
01:38:19,870 --> 01:38:25,070
bit of wild markets itself as a unique experience. People have been hiking and horseback

1304
01:38:25,070 --> 01:38:32,470
riding and camping out happy jack way for decades. And groups that need to do retreats,

1305
01:38:32,590 --> 01:38:40,490
they can go to these places. They already have options, but ironically, bit of wild would be

1306
01:38:40,490 --> 01:38:46,830
taking away the beauty of what people want to see in Wyoming.

1307
01:38:48,010 --> 01:38:56,150
And when I hear that bit of wild would take care of the BLM.

1308
01:38:56,470 --> 01:39:00,350
Nobody takes better care of the BLM than mother nature itself.

1309
01:39:00,870 --> 01:39:03,530
It's just left alone.

1310
01:39:03,530 --> 01:39:10,710
And you can't get that, once it's been carved up with a road and I don't care how nice the

1311
01:39:10,710 --> 01:39:18,290
road is, it shouldn't be there, it's the BLM it belongs to everybody. You can't get that

1312
01:39:18,290 --> 01:39:22,990
back for future Wyoming nights, so that's my thoughts.

1313
01:39:23,690 --> 01:39:27,390
Thank you. Any questions from the sleeper? Thank you.

1314
01:39:32,510 --> 01:39:37,110
Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Carl Sparrow today. I'm representing staggered cross

1315
01:39:37,110 --> 01:39:43,350
doors as the Veteran Services Organization that seeks to help our Veteran to suffer with

1316
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:51,550
postmatic stress and moral injury, ultimately to prevent suicide. I'm not here to debate and

1317
01:39:51,550 --> 01:39:58,130
discuss neighborhood disputes. I'm here to keep things pretty simple. I'm a simple fan of the

1318
01:39:58,130 --> 01:39:59,330
plant saved lives.

1319
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:19,780
Vision and purpose. When I heard about what bit of why I was trying to do, I saw the vision and purpose to provide a location, and I get it. I just heard my friend Nancy, my new friend, Nancy, talk about other locations that I could go to and take my veterans.

1320
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:26,800
I get that. There's plenty of places. So don't go here. So there's plenty of rodeos. So let's

1321
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:34,120
not have CFD here. That just doesn't hold water in my head. When a partner like Biddle

1322
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:43,080
I-O would love to share, it's land to help defend our service members who defended this

1323
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:49,620
country. From the ravages of what they experienced, that would make them even think about

1324
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:56,100
suicide. To me, I will gladly explore each and every single option.

1325
01:40:58,380 --> 01:40:59,660
I take my veterans out

1326
01:40:59,660 --> 01:41:06,120
on retreats all over Wyoming. I know for a fact, just like anyone in this room knows for

1327
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:12,440
a fact, that the density of population of our veterans in Wyoming are going to be found here

1328
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:20,400
in Shayan. If we're talking about safety first, I'm asking you to put the safety first

1329
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:28,040
of our veterans who 22 a day is the magic number that people like to say it could be as

1330
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:38,300
highest 44. I've personally witnessed 85 veterans lives changed and saved through the work

1331
01:41:38,300 --> 01:41:44,720
that my organization does, that my partner organizations do and if I can have another partner

1332
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:52,520
in Bittowio, in an effort to save their lives, not just once a year, not just twice a year,

1333
01:41:52,920 --> 01:42:01,400
but literally they've offered if this gets approved, unfettered access, at no cost to our veterans.

1334
01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:10,140
And yet, I keep hearing over and over, these disputes about keep things the same.

1335
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:16,900
If we keep things the same, that number 22 or 44 is not going to change.

1336
01:42:17,860 --> 01:42:21,960
We can make a difference right here right now in their lives.

1337
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,040
I just finished leading a retreat at Little America.

1338
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:30,140
You know one of the things that they said in their feedback reports to me, I wish there were

1339
01:42:30,140 --> 01:42:31,500
more outdoor activities.

1340
01:42:34,510 --> 01:42:38,270
I just don't have the budget to go to all these other places.

1341
01:42:38,630 --> 01:42:42,230
And oh by the way, I would mean I've already taken.

1342
01:42:42,230 --> 01:42:48,670
not would be I've already taken my veterans to Centennial Wyoming, to Cody Wyoming, to

1343
01:42:48,670 --> 01:42:57,130
Burgess Junction Wyoming, and these are veterans here in Cheyenne. Why can't I take them

1344
01:42:57,130 --> 01:43:05,130
here in Cheyenne to enjoy the great outdoors with more private access to where they can share

1345
01:43:05,130 --> 01:43:08,550
their stories and heal from their invisible wounds.

1346
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,180
Vision and purpose. I'm just going to keep

1347
01:43:13,180 --> 01:43:20,080
very simple. The vision and purpose stated by BitOIO and the helping hand that they extended

1348
01:43:20,860 --> 01:43:27,280
to my veterans, to your veterans, shouldn't their voices just because I'm not wearing

1349
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:32,880
a yellow shirt like many of these. Those voices should not be silenced as well.

1350
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:43,160
I implore

1351
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:51,580
for the vision and purpose that their organization can provide for the safety and security

1352
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,300
of our community.

1353
01:43:53,860 --> 01:43:54,800
Thank you very much.

1354
01:43:55,180 --> 01:43:55,560
Thank you, sir.

1355
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:56,060
Any questions?

1356
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:57,340
Okay.

1357
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:57,820
Next.

1358
01:44:01,700 --> 01:44:02,560
Health miss.

1359
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:03,700
And sorry.

1360
01:44:03,980 --> 01:44:05,040
You have to get in.

1361
01:44:08,060 --> 01:44:08,580
Yeah.

1362
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:08,980
I'm sorry.

1363
01:44:09,060 --> 01:44:10,920
We don't take public comment back and forth.

1364
01:44:12,910 --> 01:44:13,490
Good afternoon.

1365
01:44:13,670 --> 01:44:13,930
Your commissioner.

1366
01:44:14,130 --> 01:44:15,270
My name is Jason Wasserer.

1367
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:19,110
I'm an attorney at Long Rapper, Winnerger, Obstereated 21-20, Kerry.

1368
01:44:19,610 --> 01:44:21,590
I represent Jake and Christina Baringer.

1369
01:44:22,630 --> 01:44:25,730
And I'm here to provide some comments on number half.

1370
01:44:27,070 --> 01:44:28,730
As you heard today from Ms. Raidell,

1371
01:44:29,870 --> 01:44:34,530
there are numerous lists of people and entities that she has worked with.

1372
01:44:35,070 --> 01:44:39,470
Not one of those entities was table mountain ranges, or shy and past subdivision.

1373
01:44:40,030 --> 01:44:45,170
There's been no outreach to any of those groups to visit with them about the mitigating factors.

1374
01:44:45,170 --> 01:44:48,390
for the effects that they'll be feeling on their subdivision.

1375
01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:50,590
After we met in April,

1376
01:44:53,210 --> 01:44:57,670
one of the conditions for the CUP was that we needed to show,

1377
01:44:57,690 --> 01:44:59,970
lead they needed to show proof of an improved memory recording.

1378
01:45:02,580 --> 01:45:24,760
That has not been recorded yet. That has not been done until January. As we stand today in September, it wouldn't hurt us to wait four more months to at least see that that process is taken care of. There are still numerous things that the BLN needs to take care of, including reviewing of the raptors, eagles, wildlife, anything else that they need to make sure that this road doesn't affect anything.

1379
01:45:25,700 --> 01:45:29,780
We also don't have any answers as to who has oversight to ensure that these conditions are

1380
01:45:29,780 --> 01:45:34,020
met after this final side plan is approved, who enforces violations of the site plan,

1381
01:45:34,260 --> 01:45:37,040
who enforces violations of the conditional use permit.

1382
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:43,180
There is also supposed to be a parking plan that was going to use shuttles to haul people

1383
01:45:43,180 --> 01:45:44,160
up to this venue.

1384
01:45:44,580 --> 01:45:46,200
Doesn't look like that's going to happen anymore.

1385
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:47,480
Has that been abandoned?

1386
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,200
There's new risk questions that need answered about this plan before it gets approved.

1387
01:45:53,680 --> 01:46:03,480
We also heard statements about the guests and ensuring that they will manage themselves in a way that does not violate any speed limits through the roads on the subdivision.

1388
01:46:03,900 --> 01:46:08,720
Who's going to enforce this? We're going to have officers out there. How do we deal with guests that are unruly?

1389
01:46:11,460 --> 01:46:15,180
We've also heard that the road can't meet certain standards, and there's going to be bumpouts.

1390
01:46:15,820 --> 01:46:20,160
My concern with some of this stuff is they agreed to these fact that these conditions when

1391
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:24,420
this was approved in April and now we're changing them in August and September.

1392
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:30,860
I think that this site plan needs further consideration before it can be given final use.

1393
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,940
That's all I have today and if you have any questions I will stand for for the comment.

1394
01:46:36,700 --> 01:46:38,020
Any questions from Mr. Ross Verder?

1395
01:46:38,020 --> 01:46:44,320
I think I do want to comment on like who enforces violations all of the things we do.

1396
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:46,800
And our planning office does and our nuisance office does.

1397
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:51,460
So there are mechanisms in place to check and make sure that the road upgrades are to

1398
01:46:51,460 --> 01:46:52,080
county standards.

1399
01:46:52,740 --> 01:46:58,060
Like there are mechanisms in place with any of the site plan across the county or commercial

1400
01:46:58,060 --> 01:46:58,620
site plan.

1401
01:46:58,620 --> 01:47:03,500
If there's violation, it's reported, our planning staff and our nuisance staff investigate

1402
01:47:03,500 --> 01:47:07,040
and there's remediation steps available through the county attorney's office.

1403
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,580
So, I just wanted to make sure that was on the record, that's not that we have proven and just

1404
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:16,940
Set it and forget it like we routinely check on violations of the right things chairman mom

1405
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:21,900
How soon is that that days weeks or months after a violation is reported?

1406
01:47:22,140 --> 01:47:24,180
I'll let Mr. Arnold speak to the time frame

1407
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:30,380
Mr. Chairman through you just real quick. I would know that I do believe it. Maybe the applicant can clarify

1408
01:47:30,380 --> 01:47:35,620
But I do believe they were approved by BLM for a recreational permit which is separate in a side

1409
01:47:35,620 --> 01:47:39,840
and the proposal for the phasing of the two different portions of the project.

1410
01:47:40,460 --> 01:47:46,320
When there's violation of the Lermy County land use regulations, if it's issue with life-taved

1411
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,480
to your public health, we can do a cease-in-dismediately.

1412
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:56,620
And debate that issue generally, our processes are we then certified letters to the property

1413
01:47:56,620 --> 01:48:01,560
owner to ensure that they receive the correspondence outwind what violations have taken

1414
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:05,420
place in accordance with the commercial site planned and or any other provision of the

1415
01:48:05,420 --> 01:48:11,220
and use regulations, give them an appropriate amount of time to abate the issue, and then if they don't,

1416
01:48:11,420 --> 01:48:17,840
we send a citation, memorandum over to the county attorney's office as well as the civil division of the Sheriff's Department,

1417
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:29,060
which they service that citation, it is must appear in court in the court of competent, competent jurisdiction decides what the fines may be related to the violation at that point.

1418
01:48:29,060 --> 01:48:35,000
Right. Chairman Mawn to Mr. Arnold, has there been a right of way issued?

1419
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:40,060
Because you said there's a recreational permit, but has there been a right of way through

1420
01:48:40,060 --> 01:48:40,980
the BLM?

1421
01:48:45,610 --> 01:48:46,630
So we can have the document.

1422
01:48:47,390 --> 01:48:50,090
Mr. Chairman, through you in correct me if I'm wrong.

1423
01:48:50,230 --> 01:48:54,350
Mrs. Reedell, that you have a recreational permit that allows the horse backwriting

1424
01:48:54,350 --> 01:48:59,250
the minor type utilization to use the road as it currently exists.

1425
01:48:59,250 --> 01:49:12,390
And then the secondary permit will have all of the wildlife assessments approved by BLM as well as the roadway improvements for the 24 with as part of that secondary permit.

1426
01:49:12,670 --> 01:49:17,870
Chairman Malm to Mr. Arnold, does that include wedding events or is it just for reparations?

1427
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:25,650
Mr. Chairman, through you, it is specific to the first backwriting the date night, the low intensity uses this part of phase two,

1428
01:49:25,650 --> 01:49:34,890
which would require all infrastructure improvements to include Brush Creek Road, the BLM before the actual venue could open up for the wedding portion of it.

1429
01:49:35,150 --> 01:49:36,730
So we're still waiting on that final.

1430
01:49:37,390 --> 01:49:38,590
That's Mr. Chairman 3.

1431
01:49:38,610 --> 01:49:40,070
That's my understanding, Mr. Wasper.

1432
01:49:41,150 --> 01:49:41,990
Thank you, Mr. Wasper.

1433
01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:51,620
Good afternoon, commissioners.

1434
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,020
My name is Justin Hasser.

1435
01:49:53,180 --> 01:49:59,960
I represent Kelly Zimmerman of the KZ Trust and Lisa Lose of the LL Trust to own neighbouring property at 4.

1436
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,620
May 4, happy jack road. My client's echo a lot of the comments and questions submitted by neighboring landowners

1437
01:50:06,620 --> 01:50:12,220
and writing, and those made today. I'm going to touch on two issues, but I want to just briefly address

1438
01:50:12,220 --> 01:50:19,360
that where we left off. I understand that Ms. Rital has been granted a recreational permit.

1439
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:27,480
But the fact remains that to get to the property, Rush Creek has to be used. And there's no...

1440
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,740
In the materials that I saw, there's nothing that says what's going to happen with brush

1441
01:50:31,740 --> 01:50:36,440
Greek. In fact, it's my understanding that you're going to, if you adopt the proposed

1442
01:50:36,440 --> 01:50:41,540
resolution and motion, that you will allow her to use brush Greek in its current state, not

1443
01:50:41,540 --> 01:50:48,960
up to county standards. So, that in mind, and that issue, I think, needs more addressed. But I

1444
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:53,880
really want to address two specific issues. And the first is that the site plan should not

1445
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:58,580
approved until such time that the BLM easement has approved and executed.

1446
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:03,160
And if I may, I have a couple exhibits I just want to just two pages each if I could approach.

1447
01:51:26,940 --> 01:51:33,020
So as you know, this matter was originally set to be heard on August 4th.

1448
01:51:33,100 --> 01:51:38,500
Prior to that meeting, I heard that it was postponed and reached out to, I believe, Mr. Davis first

1449
01:51:38,500 --> 01:51:40,520
to determine if that was the case.

1450
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:45,080
In response, I got a straightforward and clear email for Mr. Arnold.

1451
01:51:46,140 --> 01:51:48,280
That's what's before you, the first page.

1452
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:53,960
As you can see, it plainly states that the site plan will be, quote, postponed and definitely

1453
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,860
until such time that the final BLM easement is executed.

1454
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,920
It goes on to say that Larry McCowny will provide notices to when the hearing will take

1455
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:06,660
place after the finalized easement documentation is received by the applicant.

1456
01:52:08,500 --> 01:52:13,560
Nothing has changed since August 4th, and certainly no new public notices that she would

1457
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,560
regarding what appears to be a phased site plan.

1458
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:25,240
No response, no dose was given to me or my clients that this would now be up after this email was sent.

1459
01:52:26,860 --> 01:52:32,500
As a result, you should follow Mr. Arnold's directive and postpone this matter until the BLM easement is approved.

1460
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:42,840
Second, if you do proceed and allow redal ventures to open with phased one activities prior to bringing brush creek road to current county standards,

1461
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:47,600
Then you will, in fact, be allowing her to violate the conditions you set in April for the

1462
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,120
Class C Conditional Use Permit.

1463
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:56,480
That's the second page that's before you, and if you look at it, it very clearly states

1464
01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:59,580
following

1465
01:52:59,580 --> 01:53:00,180
conditions.

1466
01:53:00,620 --> 01:53:05,160
The applicant must bring brush creek road to current county standards for a public roadway,

1467
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:08,820
and the private access easement through Bureau of Land Management, parcel to current

1468
01:53:08,820 --> 01:53:10,580
county standards for private access.

1469
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,120
Nothing has changed since April.

1470
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:18,760
And retail ventures should still be required to bring rush quick road to current county standards.

1471
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:29,920
At the very least, if you approve her plan, there must be much more detail regarding what limitations and constraints there will be during the operation of the so-called first phase.

1472
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:36,490
Again, there are numerous issues with the site plan, most of which have been presented today when writing previously.

1473
01:53:37,070 --> 01:53:42,630
But until such time as the final bill and easement exists, no one knows all possible issues, and it's premature to approve this plan.

1474
01:53:42,630 --> 01:53:48,990
And therefore I ask that you stand by Mr. Arnold's statements and postpone this manner and definitely until the bill on is in it is executed.

1475
01:53:51,340 --> 01:54:00,000
I also want to raise another issue that I just based on some comments that were made both by Mr. Arnold and others here today.

1476
01:54:01,020 --> 01:54:11,800
If I heard Mr. Arnold's report, there were a number of findings that I do not believe were in the publicly available document that comes out available on Friday.

1477
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:22,440
I could be wrong, but I heard like findings through I think D and what I'm looking at, what's available online only goes through, I believe, B or C.

1478
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:34,340
I'm concerned about that, concerned about other notice issues, and I recognize that you all have a difficult job and receive criticism, you're not going to make everyone happy.

1479
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,800
It's the nature of being a decision maker, I get it.

1480
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:42,000
The key is not the decision being made but the process.

1481
01:54:43,620 --> 01:54:48,000
Both applicants and residents must trust the Commission and Planning Department will

1482
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:52,400
follow the laws regulations provided transparent and fair process.

1483
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:58,500
When this trust exists, we can agree to disagree on ultimate decisions.

1484
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,360
However, when you lose this trust, the decision doesn't matter because the process is no longer fair.

1485
01:55:06,500 --> 01:55:10,420
With all due respect to the Commission and Mr. Arnold moving forward today despite clear notice

1486
01:55:10,420 --> 01:55:15,380
to a neighboring landowner that this matter will be postponed indefinitely, is not fair.

1487
01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:22,440
Further, allowing regional ventures to ignore conditions that you established in April for a

1488
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:33,000
will use permit would provide inconsistent resolutions and demonstrate a lack of desire to enforce basic requirements previously adopted by this body after public input.

1489
01:55:34,340 --> 01:55:44,440
Whatever you do today, please ensure that it is fair and follow the established regulations and processes that this commission and the county should follow.

1490
01:55:45,340 --> 01:55:46,760
Be happy to answer any questions.

1491
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:53,330
questions. I think I'll address or note the difference in maybe what was right and what was

1492
01:55:53,860 --> 01:55:58,810
publicly available. That was due to the county attorney wanting a little bit more

1493
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:05,340
kind of numerated things that are already actually mentioned in that full staff report,

1494
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:10,040
but they are just referenced individually in the one that was read in the

1495
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:15,040
directed by Justin Arnold, our planning director. So all of that information is available and was

1496
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:20,020
available on Friday in regards to the notice I won't speak to that but I just wanted to address

1497
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,240
the difference in what you heard and what was on the packet.

1498
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:23,660
Okay.

1499
01:56:23,980 --> 01:56:24,680
I appreciate that.

1500
01:56:25,300 --> 01:56:26,000
Thanks sir.

1501
01:56:28,210 --> 01:56:28,330
All right.

1502
01:56:28,530 --> 01:56:29,550
Before you guys come back up.

1503
01:56:29,550 --> 01:56:32,150
I just want to warn I don't want to get into like a back and forth.

1504
01:56:33,190 --> 01:56:36,410
So I know that you're coming up in reference to something that was said.

1505
01:56:36,690 --> 01:56:41,230
So I'd just ask you to keep it brief and let's really try not to go back and forth.

1506
01:56:41,790 --> 01:56:47,230
Yes, Mr. Chairman, Joseph and I don't know if this is appropriate, but I am a disabled veteran.

1507
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:54,990
I have found many, many places in Wyoming to commune with nature to heal, to be at peace.

1508
01:56:55,230 --> 01:56:57,790
Bit of wild is not required for that purpose.

1509
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:58,710
That's all.

1510
01:56:58,770 --> 01:56:59,530
Thank you.

1511
01:57:05,340 --> 01:57:06,360
I'm Nancy Sleeper.

1512
01:57:06,660 --> 01:57:08,340
I forgot to hand this in.

1513
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,280
It's pulled a microphone.

1514
01:57:10,940 --> 01:57:12,320
You can bring it on up.

1515
01:57:17,900 --> 01:57:18,540
Thank you.

1516
01:57:20,230 --> 01:57:31,410
So, just for the record, she's handed me a petition signed by, I believe, residents of the area in regards to the proposed site plan.

1517
01:57:32,110 --> 01:57:32,470
Am I correct?

1518
01:57:36,670 --> 01:57:37,570
I'll go with the deal for that.

1519
01:57:37,570 --> 01:57:38,770
Well, I'll deal in her that in the record.

1520
01:57:39,050 --> 01:57:39,950
Thank you.

1521
01:57:40,430 --> 01:57:49,430
Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, just wanted to make a comment, the gentleman that spoke about veterans resources.

1522
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:53,190
There are several combat veterans that live in Cheyenne Pass.

1523
01:57:53,630 --> 01:57:59,630
We picked that place for the Serenity, the solitude that it provides, and it's unfair

1524
01:57:59,630 --> 01:58:06,750
to position this activity, this venture that he's proposing, as he mentioned, there's several

1525
01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:14,450
venues across the state, that counter pose that, with the veterans that combat veterans

1526
01:58:14,450 --> 01:58:20,470
that live in Table Mountain and Cheyenne Pass who live there that is providing upset too.

1527
01:58:20,750 --> 01:58:21,870
Kevin, thank you sir.

1528
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:23,550
All right, anyone else?

1529
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:31,580
Good afternoon.

1530
01:58:31,980 --> 01:58:32,480
Good afternoon.

1531
01:58:32,620 --> 01:58:33,660
I'm Tom Bologste.

1532
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:42,980
I live at 714 High Merit Road in Table Mountain ranches living there for 35 years peacefully.

1533
01:58:43,980 --> 01:58:50,820
And I want to formally request a wild fire risk assessment to be required for the conditional use permit.

1534
01:58:51,740 --> 01:58:57,840
Also, I want to formally request that a fire mitigation requirement is imposed on the business.

1535
01:58:57,980 --> 01:59:04,800
Buffer zones, fire breaks, clearing of flammable materials, on-site suppression equipment,

1536
01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:10,700
operational restrictions, including the road-wide name, rural, fire and emergency vehicles,

1537
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:15,500
to stop any potential fires from reaching table mountain ranches.

1538
01:59:17,070 --> 01:59:26,510
These expanses should be paid by right-eal ventures LLC and be repeated every fall throughout

1539
01:59:26,510 --> 01:59:32,270
Breast Creek Canyon, as well as clearing the overgrowth on the shoulders of value you

1540
01:59:32,270 --> 01:59:32,690
drive.

1541
01:59:34,860 --> 01:59:40,100
Table Mountain Ranches is situated immediately downwind to the east of their proposed entertainment

1542
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:45,800
project, and Red Flag Warnings had been consistently posted for the area.

1543
01:59:46,700 --> 01:59:52,600
Fresh Creek as its name suggests provides serious fire dangers with dead

1544
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:59,400
temper, excessive brush, growth, and tall grasses that serve like a fuse to quickly

1545
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:14,160
Report any fires directly into table-mounted branches. This serious and deadly threat to innocent residents, their homes, livestock, and belongings, has not been addressed in any meaningful ways.

1546
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:29,540
Yet, hundreds of visitors are proposed to be transported to this entertainment area throughout the spring-to-fall seasons, where deer and loping cattle used to roam, to instead party and celebrate, meaning often drinking.

1547
02:00:29,540 --> 02:00:36,820
drugging and smoking. The threats of fire naturally and dramatically increase and will burn with

1548
02:00:36,820 --> 02:00:44,280
the wind driving them directly into table mountain ranches. Steepills surrounding creek will quickly

1549
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:50,340
spread the fire but firefighting efforts will have poor or no access to contain many of these

1550
02:00:50,340 --> 02:00:57,060
spreading blazes into this subdivision. Hence the hundreds of people and their homes throughout

1551
02:00:57,060 --> 02:01:03,800
table mountain ranches appeared to be engraved danger. This is especially true when we remember

1552
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:09,300
that the fires several years ago, they started just east of the bunkhouse bar and burned

1553
02:01:09,300 --> 02:01:17,080
for miles to northwest Cheyenne. Well, table mountain ranches obviously stands in direct danger,

1554
02:01:17,420 --> 02:01:24,100
shadow mountain and other new residential areas to the east, a similarly face destruction.

1555
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:30,580
If we've learned anything from the northern front range of Colorado, we need to do everything

1556
02:01:30,580 --> 02:01:33,180
we can to prevent such dangerous fires.

1557
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:39,240
In addition, while the business is making money, the homeowners in table mountain ranches

1558
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:45,500
will likely have their home insurance rates double, as has happened in similar Colorado front

1559
02:01:45,500 --> 02:01:46,800
range locations.

1560
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:54,540
In addition, further expenses for vehicle damages and insurance, windshield replacements

1561
02:01:54,540 --> 02:02:00,580
often now cost more than $1,000, plus other repairs and cleaning expenses will further

1562
02:02:00,580 --> 02:02:03,660
threaten residents livelihoods.

1563
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:10,020
Will right-eal ventures take any responsibility for covering these expenses that they are

1564
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:12,140
forcing on table mountain household?

1565
02:02:13,020 --> 02:02:18,780
They have so far demonstrated no concern for the problems that they're foisting on table

1566
02:02:18,780 --> 02:02:19,740
mountain residents.

1567
02:02:20,580 --> 02:02:26,240
For instance, we can predict deaths and injuries due to their clientele and deviated

1568
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:32,960
from partying, driving unfamiliar narrow roads with blind hills, inviting head-on collisions,

1569
02:02:33,980 --> 02:02:36,220
and steep shoulders leading to rollovers.

1570
02:02:36,220 --> 02:02:47,260
Not only placing their clientele at risk, but more tragically placing innocent local residents, their animals and local wildlife and danger as well.

1571
02:02:48,100 --> 02:02:57,560
In addition, our peaceful neighborhood will be disrupted by excessive traffic, noise dust and vehicle damages, as you've heard others talk about.

1572
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:03,940
Residents of Table Mountain ranches chose this by a neighborhood to live in as a test

1573
02:03:03,940 --> 02:03:10,860
to two by everyone driving at least an hour each day to work to avoid these kinds of stressful

1574
02:03:10,860 --> 02:03:11,720
circumstances.

1575
02:03:12,940 --> 02:03:15,760
The benefits of this project go to the business.

1576
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:22,920
While the costs are irresponsibly forced on local residents who get no benefits as everyone

1577
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:27,380
and table mountain meetings have been against the project.

1578
02:03:30,890 --> 02:03:35,950
In their prior business venture, they were reported by neighbors to misrepresent and

1579
02:03:35,950 --> 02:03:41,430
violate agreements, so the neighbors would not allow this project to be used the existing

1580
02:03:41,430 --> 02:03:46,330
road from happy jack road to reach their proposed business site.

1581
02:03:47,010 --> 02:03:51,830
Now they're exploiting all table mountain, as well as causing multiple expenses to land

1582
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:59,910
county for road repairs continued grainy, sheriff and emergency services. Hence, they are continuing

1583
02:03:59,910 --> 02:04:05,910
their poor neighborhood practices, especially with table mountain residents. We asked that you

1584
02:04:05,910 --> 02:04:13,170
be a good neighbor to table mountain ranches and protect us at least mentally, with wildfire,

1585
02:04:13,490 --> 02:04:20,350
risk assessment, and mitigation efforts, as required conditions for their conditional use permit.

1586
02:04:21,860 --> 02:04:30,200
Finally, if I were a county commissioner, and chose to not protect table-mountain ranches

1587
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:35,780
in surrounding developments, especially with all the red flag warnings, signaling predictable

1588
02:04:35,780 --> 02:04:42,660
danger, that may cost up to millions of dollars in damages and threats to many residents

1589
02:04:42,660 --> 02:04:46,960
lives, I'd plan to never be elected again.

1590
02:04:47,660 --> 02:04:53,200
privately, I'd likely struggle to rest my life with the decision I made.

1591
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:54,940
Thank you.

1592
02:04:55,300 --> 02:04:55,820
Any questions?

1593
02:04:57,960 --> 02:04:58,500
Thank you, sir.

1594
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,520
Anyone else like to come forward for the public hearing?

1595
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:07,300
One more time, public hearing?

1596
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:12,060
Public hearing having met as purpose, the public hearing is closed.

1597
02:05:16,150 --> 02:05:16,590
Commissioners.

1598
02:05:26,700 --> 02:05:36,260
Mr. Chairman, I moved to approve the Phase One site plan for the bit of while ranch and events situated in a portion of land of the northeastern quarter of section 11, township 14, north, 371.

1599
02:05:36,260 --> 02:05:39,560
of the 6th PM, Lamey County Wyoming, with the following conditions.

1600
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:44,160
Condition 1, applicant shall acquire and submit to Lamey County Planning Department, the

1601
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:48,260
Recreational Access Permit, provided by the United States Bureau of Land Management, which

1602
02:05:48,260 --> 02:05:52,800
would permit the use indicated in the Incorporated Request by Applicant of Approval of the

1603
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:53,760
Phase 1 Operation.

1604
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:58,860
Condition 2, applicant will obtain if necessary from Lamey County Planning and Development

1605
02:05:58,860 --> 02:06:02,980
and the shy and Lamey County Environmental Health Department approval for activities consistent

1606
02:06:02,980 --> 02:06:06,660
with Phase I operations as described in the Incorporated Document.

1607
02:06:09,900 --> 02:06:13,960
Furthermore, I would move to approve the Phase II site plan for Bitawial Ranch and events

1608
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:18,280
as submitted in the application and reflected in the documentation contained in the project file

1609
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:22,620
and this matter situated in the portion, a land in the north-the-quarter of section 11

1610
02:06:22,620 --> 02:06:26,960
township 14 north-range 70 west of the Sixth-Bensville, Meridian, Glamour County, Wyoming,

1611
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:30,660
and will be considered approved upon completion of the following conditions.

1612
02:06:30,660 --> 02:06:42,180
Condition 1, Rush Creek Road and the BLM easement with Final Approval by the BLM must be designed and built through a right away permit with acceptance by Larry County Public Works and with approval by the BLM.

1613
02:06:42,460 --> 02:06:58,040
They shall meet the requirements within the Larry County line just regulations for the roadways and floodplain crossings. The approved access easement from BLM shall be submitted with the right away permit as indicated hearing and a reduction in which the due in which due to the topography for Rush Creek Road shall be permitted.

1614
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:04,400
Condition 2, the applicant must show proof from the environmental health that they have satisfied their standards for commercial use.

1615
02:07:04,660 --> 02:07:10,940
Condition 3, the applicant must show proof of an approved and recorded easement agreement between landowner and the Bureau of Land Management.

1616
02:07:11,580 --> 02:07:18,940
Condition 4, the applicant must comply with the recommendations as outlined in the letter incorporated into this report from the Wyoming Game and Fish Department.

1617
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:28,020
Condition 5, the applicant must resolve any outstanding agency comments including but not limited to those in the incorporated permit notes prior to find

1618
02:07:28,020 --> 02:07:34,260
approval for the commencement of operation, condition number 6, the applicant must show

1619
02:07:34,260 --> 02:07:39,360
proof of an approved and recorded agreement between landowner and the Bureau of Land Management,

1620
02:07:40,020 --> 02:07:44,880
and finally the applicant must resolve any outstanding agency comments prior to final

1621
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:51,510
approvals for the commencement of operation for the sake of discussion.

1622
02:07:52,090 --> 02:07:56,310
Okay, I can have a motion in a second, discussion by the commission on the motion.

1623
02:07:56,890 --> 02:08:01,450
Mr. Chairman, if I could, I would just like a little more maybe reasoning about the

1624
02:08:01,450 --> 02:08:05,890
phasing of the project, and why we would split it up into a phase one, versus phase two.

1625
02:08:06,370 --> 02:08:09,090
If that's okay, I don't know, I'm sorry to put you on the spot there, Justin, but I think

1626
02:08:09,090 --> 02:08:10,970
some clarification there would be welcomed.

1627
02:08:12,610 --> 02:08:17,030
Mr. Chairman, through you, Commissioner's law, it's our my understanding of it is that

1628
02:08:17,030 --> 02:08:24,390
a recreational permit allowing the existing access road through the BLM to be utilized as

1629
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:30,030
for a couple of horseback riders or a day-night or something that that effect can be covered under

1630
02:08:30,030 --> 02:08:36,050
the recreational permit while they work out the long-term easement. So they have basically

1631
02:08:36,050 --> 02:08:41,630
face the approvals through Bureau of Land Management, which the applicant is trying to make

1632
02:08:41,630 --> 02:08:48,890
comments. So initial phase with the horseback riding, minor operations, and then another document

1633
02:08:48,890 --> 02:08:54,230
to be executed for the full shabang, the whole 20-foot wide roadway, which would be a condition

1634
02:08:54,230 --> 02:08:57,150
of approval to commence operations for the motion.

1635
02:08:58,410 --> 02:09:00,070
Copy, Edrick, continuing to you, Mr. Chairman.

1636
02:09:00,370 --> 02:09:04,090
It is also my understanding that without the approval of the initial phase one site plan,

1637
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:08,990
the applicant is unable to do any kind of work on the property whatsoever to improve it,

1638
02:09:09,070 --> 02:09:13,670
essentially, not whatsoever, but she's required to at least have a phase site plan in order

1639
02:09:13,670 --> 02:09:14,990
to even begin any improvements.

1640
02:09:14,990 --> 02:09:23,330
And part of that was brought on through the Wyman-Gaming Fish Study for the Habitat to make sure it doesn't interrupt the mildier migration.

1641
02:09:23,970 --> 02:09:24,770
Yeah, it doesn't.

1642
02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:29,010
But, yeah, Mr. Chairman, through you commissioners wanted to say, yeah, they look at that stuff.

1643
02:09:29,450 --> 02:09:32,710
So we're making it a condition of approval within any mitigation factors.

1644
02:09:32,910 --> 02:09:37,050
They can be that wide-out would recommend would be incorporated into that.

1645
02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:43,550
Going to backtrack, no, there would be no commercial operations related to the event venue.

1646
02:09:43,550 --> 02:09:59,910
And unless we approved phase one, now they can have private events, which is, I believe, what happened with the event that was mentioned earlier, which was private, it would be commensurate with a graduation party, or something to that effect, but full operations for bit a while as a commercial.

1647
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:04,400
Service, the public would require the approvals.

1648
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:14,960
Okay, we've got you. So, they're furthermore, you couldn't begin to improve the septic or anything of that nature without some sort of approval of a site plan, whether that be phase one or phase two.

1649
02:10:15,340 --> 02:10:24,480
Mr. Chairman, through you commissioner is one, it's understood. So, our building permit, we have to have a certificate of review and approve site plan to issue the building permits.

1650
02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:42,640
It's a little bit more muddy because environmental health is their own agency so there's nothing in their regulations to say that you can't pull a commercial building permit all of this is at risk because it's subject to the other pieces of the puzzle that being our commercial site plan our commercial building permits so on and so forth

1651
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:50,980
So theoretical I think from a legal standpoint you can pull a septic permit to make improvements, but then designing it to a commercial standard

1652
02:10:50,980 --> 02:11:00,040
And then doing any installations is completely a risk given the fact that potentially the entire operation could be denied for commercial use.

1653
02:11:02,220 --> 02:11:04,320
Thank you, Mr.

1654
02:11:08,420 --> 02:11:12,220
Chair, so a lot to think about a lot to consider here.

1655
02:11:12,220 --> 02:11:21,740
I think the comment that we're a rubber stamp, don't think about any of this, I think was insulting it best.

1656
02:11:23,060 --> 02:11:27,340
Because we do, we read every email, we read every letter, we read all of that.

1657
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:39,080
Bottom line is this is a property that's been here since the late 80s and through the 90s we had weddings, we had trail rides, this is a business that has been out there and has been functioning.

1658
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:44,440
You can go on the old bit of wild website and you can see the pictures from these events.

1659
02:11:46,140 --> 02:11:53,120
I think, you know, to Mr. Hesers comments and, you know, showing us the previous resolution,

1660
02:11:54,540 --> 02:11:58,000
we do have the ability to come back and say, listen, there's a different circumstance.

1661
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:05,320
So they've got the recreational permit. They want to do that. They have the ability to come and apply to us and say, can we do this in phases?

1662
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:13,500
So I think we have well within our rights to do that, and so I think it's appropriate to do that.

1663
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,260
We do have the ability to make those changes.

1664
02:12:17,060 --> 02:12:19,120
The comment about being fair.

1665
02:12:20,540 --> 02:12:24,500
A couple people said, let's make the decision that's fair.

1666
02:12:24,740 --> 02:12:25,720
What is fair?

1667
02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,360
If I'm on property, do I have the right to use my property?

1668
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:32,900
If there's public roads, do I have the right to use public roads?

1669
02:12:32,900 --> 02:12:39,580
I mean, to me, that sounds fair, you know, that the easement in Off of Happy Jack, which

1670
02:12:39,580 --> 02:12:46,220
makes so much more sense, I think, for this business than coming through Table Mountain.

1671
02:12:47,460 --> 02:12:53,000
Is it fair that they're no longer allowed to use that, probably not, but that's what we're

1672
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:53,620
dealing with.

1673
02:12:53,920 --> 02:12:56,920
And so, is it fair for the owner to have to go through BLM?

1674
02:12:57,020 --> 02:12:58,860
Is it fair for the BLM to give her access?

1675
02:12:59,180 --> 02:13:00,040
I don't know.

1676
02:13:00,180 --> 02:13:01,040
I think it is.

1677
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:06,080
I think it's fair for the owner to have the right to try to run this business at a business

1678
02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:10,760
that has been existing since the 1990s, maybe in the 1980s.

1679
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:15,040
The question about waiting until January, again, I think, given the fact that they have

1680
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:19,820
the recreational permit through the BLM, I think it makes sense to allow them to do the phase

1681
02:13:19,820 --> 02:13:22,020
one things that we're allowing to do today.

1682
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:29,840
So again, makes sense to me to proceed with that, and then I want to touch on one thing that

1683
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:36,120
and to Mr. Boggs, he says, you know what I would expect and ever get elected again and you

1684
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:41,420
are living with yourself. We deal with this decision all the time. I mean, usually it's not

1685
02:13:41,420 --> 02:13:47,460
this contentious, but sometimes it is. And we get exactly what Mr. Sleepers said. We are not

1686
02:13:47,460 --> 02:13:52,260
opposed to business. We're not opposed to tourism. We just don't want it in our backyard.

1687
02:13:57,240 --> 02:13:58,220
I get that.

1688
02:13:58,220 --> 02:14:01,160
is to deal with that very sentiment.

1689
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:07,800
And so how do we balance what somebody wants to do with their land?

1690
02:14:07,940 --> 02:14:09,040
And we hear all the time.

1691
02:14:09,140 --> 02:14:11,880
It's my land, go much and tell me what I can't do with it.

1692
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:12,920
And then we hear all the time.

1693
02:14:13,060 --> 02:14:14,960
The neighbors say, hey, this is my land.

1694
02:14:15,020 --> 02:14:16,420
You have to protect me from what my name

1695
02:14:16,420 --> 02:14:17,260
will wants to do.

1696
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,220
So all the time, we deal with this issue.

1697
02:14:20,640 --> 02:14:24,060
And I would tell you, I think, by using our land use regulations

1698
02:14:24,060 --> 02:14:27,100
by saying, you need to improve this road to this standard

1699
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:31,680
by doing this, by putting five conditions on the one and six

1700
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:34,860
conditions on the other, whatever the number was, I think that's how we do

1701
02:14:34,860 --> 02:14:39,040
that to try to protect the neighbors. So I'm in favor of this, I'm going to

1702
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:43,100
vote in favor of this today. I think it's fair, and I think it's appropriate for

1703
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:49,660
us to let these folks get this business back up and running to the way it used to be.

1704
02:14:49,820 --> 02:14:54,220
So that's where I'll be today. Thank you, Commissioner Thompson. Anyone else?

1705
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:59,870
Commissioner Heath. I'm gonna try and not get emotional here.

1706
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,460
I wish Carl was still here. I believe that was his name and he was speaking about the veterans that he's able to take out and spend time with nature.

1707
02:15:10,300 --> 02:15:20,440
We have a lot of veterans here in Lermy County. We have a lot of people in Lermy County that have got mental health problems, PTSD, TBIs, etc.

1708
02:15:21,500 --> 02:15:27,900
It has been found that getting out in nature, whether it's fly-fishing, hiking, writing horses,

1709
02:15:28,220 --> 02:15:31,480
dealing with animals, whatever is good.

1710
02:15:31,660 --> 02:15:33,380
It helps to rewire the minds.

1711
02:15:34,220 --> 02:15:38,940
And you know, the comment was made that we can go to, they can go to Cody, they can go to

1712
02:15:38,940 --> 02:15:44,840
Centennial, they can go to here or there, but we have a heavy population of veterans

1713
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:45,960
here in Lermon County.

1714
02:15:46,580 --> 02:15:48,380
Why should they have to go to Cody?

1715
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:50,160
Why should they have to go to Centennial?

1716
02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:59,400
And especially in the winter, to access that kind of treatment, that kind of available recreation

1717
02:16:01,510 --> 02:16:03,190
to help them heal.

1718
02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:07,210
We sent them to another country, and I know we've got some veterans in the room.

1719
02:16:07,290 --> 02:16:13,990
We sent them to another country to fight, and they came home wounded, and it's a wound that's

1720
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:14,550
inside.

1721
02:16:14,950 --> 02:16:18,150
It's not a wound that you can see on the outside.

1722
02:16:18,230 --> 02:16:19,230
It's inside.

1723
02:16:19,950 --> 02:16:24,430
They need our help, they need our support, and so I'm

1724
02:16:27,060 --> 02:16:30,420
from that point of view, I think that what

1725
02:16:30,420 --> 02:16:39,680
Mr. Rital is trying to do to assist our veterans, I admire her for that. There's an opportunity

1726
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:41,720
there to help these people heal.

1727
02:16:43,770 --> 02:16:46,870
And as far as fire danger is concerned, I know when this

1728
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:52,990
came up in April, I spoke to this. We can't expect everybody that develops property

1729
02:16:52,990 --> 02:17:00,890
whether it's commercial or residential, to have fire protection equipment on site, to prevent

1730
02:17:00,890 --> 02:17:07,370
fires, the wind changes. As the folks that thought that were involved with the fires and saw

1731
02:17:07,370 --> 02:17:12,830
the fires up around Crawford this summer, the fires in the sand hills of Nebraska, the wind

1732
02:17:12,830 --> 02:17:20,830
blew from every direction imaginable and kept moving those fires. It didn't just blow a one direction.

1733
02:17:21,670 --> 02:17:27,870
You can do the fire mitigation. We should all be practicing that. I don't care where we live.

1734
02:17:28,450 --> 02:17:32,970
It's not going to be a bonfire or a trash fire that starts. It might be lightning.

1735
02:17:33,210 --> 02:17:37,190
You can't control where that strikes. That can strike any place.

1736
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:42,150
It can strike in my front yard. It can strike in table mountain ranch.

1737
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:47,330
It can strike any place. Fire is unpredictable, just like the weather.

1738
02:17:48,770 --> 02:17:56,890
Now, the comment was made, we won't be elected, well, I'm not going to be going into the

1739
02:17:56,890 --> 02:17:57,150
general.

1740
02:17:57,370 --> 02:18:00,530
So maybe I'm going to be stepping on some toes here.

1741
02:18:00,830 --> 02:18:03,950
Maybe I've got the freedom to say some things that should be said.

1742
02:18:08,980 --> 02:18:17,340
I know that the residents don't want this activity at Bitterwile, but I want to ask you a question.

1743
02:18:18,020 --> 02:18:24,020
If Mr. Rital wasn't working on this land and trying to bring it back to life, this property,

1744
02:18:25,460 --> 02:18:27,100
what would happen to it?

1745
02:18:29,530 --> 02:18:35,390
Would it become decayed and decrepit? Fall apart? Then what would you have?

1746
02:18:37,690 --> 02:18:43,150
I look at this as an asset to your community to let me count as a whole.

1747
02:18:44,410 --> 02:18:58,990
Not just as a commercial operation, I see an opportunity here for Jeremy County to enjoy some land that, yeah, it's set back in

1748
02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:11,800
the off the road, off the beaten path, but there's something to be said for being able to be out in that kind of an environment and enjoying nature.

1749
02:19:16,890 --> 02:19:19,890
I'll be in support of this.

1750
02:19:20,150 --> 02:19:20,430
Thank you, Commissioner.

1751
02:19:20,690 --> 02:19:22,470
Anyone else?

1752
02:19:23,170 --> 02:19:23,310
Okay.

1753
02:19:25,050 --> 02:19:26,530
Quickly, we do listen.

1754
02:19:27,390 --> 02:19:29,790
As Commissioner Thompson mentioned, I've read every email,

1755
02:19:30,030 --> 02:19:32,690
I've read every, look at every picture, completely understand.

1756
02:19:33,390 --> 02:19:35,830
But when we listen, the most is when we make rules, right?

1757
02:19:35,870 --> 02:19:39,730
Like, that's when this process is the most important is when we make rules

1758
02:19:39,730 --> 02:19:41,430
as it relates to land use regulations.

1759
02:19:41,650 --> 02:19:44,970
And when we made those last time this room was filled with 500 people

1760
02:19:44,970 --> 02:19:49,530
They'll aid a clock at night telling us that they didn't want the government telling them what to do with their land.

1761
02:19:50,990 --> 02:19:56,250
And I didn't see in those changes that we're trying to do were to protect rural residential neighborhoods from high use businesses.

1762
02:19:57,250 --> 02:19:59,970
And this room had no supporters of the rural changes that we were talking about.

1763
02:20:01,900 --> 02:20:09,800
Once we have rules we need to be clear and consistent and transparent with how we apply them, though. This was a historical use for this property.

1764
02:20:11,140 --> 02:20:16,180
There was a discussion about that. There's more people here against it and the people for it are living in town.

1765
02:20:16,700 --> 02:20:22,220
Protection of private property rights, many times, is protecting the rights of one against many people.

1766
02:20:22,960 --> 02:20:26,540
because that's the most fundamental thing. It's not a rule of the majority, protection of

1767
02:20:26,540 --> 02:20:30,480
private property rights, sometimes requires you making an unpopular decision to many

1768
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:36,920
protect the rights of one person. It's a public roadway, I understand. I understand that this

1769
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:42,220
is the not ideal situation for the tablemouth and the ranches, and it's not the ideal situation

1770
02:20:42,220 --> 02:20:43,040
for the owner.

1771
02:20:45,780 --> 02:20:50,880
I've got to tell you, I'm incredibly disappointed that we're here right now

1772
02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:56,320
And it's like this, because I have people on both sides of this room that I respect a great deal.

1773
02:20:56,840 --> 02:21:07,400
And I feel like we are here, and this is this contentious, because of two people who happened to maybe one of them got married at this site, and now doesn't think that it should be utilized for a wedding venue.

1774
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:09,220
And to me, that's insane.

1775
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:17,300
But they have stirred up neighborhoods against each other, and people against each other, in a way they don't even live here.

1776
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:20,280
And they've turned neighbor against neighbor, not Wyoming.

1777
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,300
That is not Wyoming, and it is disappointing to me as a commissioner.

1778
02:21:24,700 --> 02:21:26,920
It's disappointing to me as a citizen of Laramy County

1779
02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:30,380
that that's why we're here right now having people in different colored shirts

1780
02:21:30,380 --> 02:21:33,800
and we have animosity and they haven't done this and they haven't kept their word and

1781
02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:38,580
and there's just so much tension. And I feel that it is all spurn and drawn

1782
02:21:39,100 --> 02:21:42,540
about by people that aren't even from here. And I am disappointed.

1783
02:21:43,260 --> 02:21:46,800
Because I think that this is a great asset. It was a great, it was a good enough place to get

1784
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:50,720
20 years ago for some people, so why isn't it enough place to get married today?

1785
02:21:52,460 --> 02:21:55,360
And so I will be in support of this resolution in this site plan.

1786
02:21:55,520 --> 02:22:01,820
I think the phasing is the appropriate way to go and I commend our staff for working with

1787
02:22:01,820 --> 02:22:07,560
the applicant to try and address issues to make it a reasonable process because I think that's

1788
02:22:07,560 --> 02:22:10,920
what government should do is work in a reasonable way with the people.

1789
02:22:12,060 --> 02:22:13,940
So with that, we'll call please.

1790
02:22:15,140 --> 02:22:20,600
Commissioner Heath. Hi. Commissioner Hollingswood. Hi. Commissioner Thompson. I.

1791
02:22:20,860 --> 02:22:24,760
Commissioner's wine is there. Hi. Chairman M.O. Hi. Is there anything else to come

1792
02:22:24,760 --> 02:22:28,540
before us today? Mr. Chairman, there's no further business. All right, we are adjourned. Thank you.