1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:12,040 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:16,240 and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,280 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,120 » Mr. Paul, are you up? 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,279 I want a second. 6 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:39,640 It's a meeting. 7 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Remove. Oh, you haven't got the remote though. 8 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,680 » I >> It's all new to me, sir. 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,840 » Can we start over? >> Mhm. 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,680 One second, I'll take a look. 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,440 Okay. Okay. 12 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,040 Commissioner Gigli? >> Here. 13 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,600 » Commissioner Clark? >> Here. 14 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,280 » Commissioner Askew? >> Present. 15 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:15,000 » Commissioner Solomon? >> Here. 16 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:20,320 » You said that Commissioner Porter is absent. He called in, you know, he was 17 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,320 going to be absent. 18 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:29,800 » Any other update on zoning activity? >> Well, one update is uh that we the the 19 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:34,040 Board of Supervisors met about uh remote access to the meetings. And as 20 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:38,840 you can see on the agenda, we included language for remote access. And there's 21 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,440 a link up in the agenda on our website, so people can click on it and go to the 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:46,080 remote access. There's also language that if 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,680 uh you want to submit comments, it has to be in person or written comments in 24 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,800 advance of the meeting. There's no mechanism for the public to be able to 25 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:57,760 talk through the remote access. And there's a disclaimer that if broadcast 26 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,440 is interrupted for any reason, the meeting will proceed in person. 27 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,920 If there are any new items on the agenda, I also want to let 28 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,320 you know that we went to on Skyline Road to the Board of 29 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:15,640 Supervisors last week, and the board approved it unanimously. 30 00:02:11,959 --> 00:02:15,640 So, it's approved with conditions. 31 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,800 I think that's all the update. 32 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Are there any other issues raised by commissioners? 33 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:36,440 » Yes, it's a matter of our June meeting when the recycling 34 00:02:33,959 --> 00:02:39,280 the new recycling center was created. So, then I did not vote for it 35 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,520 anyway. My husband and I were driving down 36 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,120 Johnstonville Road, and I noticed that the recycling center 37 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,560 on Johnstonville Road is for sale. 38 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,160 And I said to him, "Well, wouldn't that wouldn't that have been a way that they 39 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:58,160 bought right there? That would have been an improvement for that." 40 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,720 The neighbors would have all been upset. And I thought, "Well, too bad." 41 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,160 And um then a couple weeks later somebody 42 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,760 approached me and said the Ingram's 43 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:12,120 grant for that recycling center 44 00:03:09,959 --> 00:03:15,480 was written for the Johnstonville Road property. In fact, they had it in 45 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,200 escrow. And then at some point changed gears and 46 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:24,040 moved out to the property beyond the CHP. Anyway, 47 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:28,200 I think that's information we could have used. 48 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:30,920 I know that your interest was to table it 49 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:34,800 and to learn a bit more. And I don't 50 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:39,120 we can only make decisions on the information that we get. And I certainly 51 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,560 didn't know that, and I asked one of the supervisors, they didn't know anything 52 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:47,519 about it. We've got a group of poor people who are 53 00:03:45,239 --> 00:03:50,560 on their bikes and walk out to that recycling center, and I don't think 54 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,200 they're going to make it out to the highway 55 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,600 by the CHP. I think that's sad. 56 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,600 And um 57 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,680 it's sad. Um 58 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Anyway, just wanted y'all to know that. Could 59 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,240 have gone a different route, but Oh, that's what I wanted to say is that when 60 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:18,239 the new one opens, when the new one opens, is that one 61 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,680 going to survive? I would I would recommend it doesn't. 62 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:28,720 » I think they will be owned by the same person or someone else could come in 63 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,720 there too. 64 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:36,560 It was Johnson Road. Johnson Road is what it 65 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,280 » It was Johnson Road. >> Something like that. My arrogance is 66 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:42,600 that right there. 67 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my arrogance is where where Stein is. Stein is It's Stein is 68 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,080 there. >> But anyway, um 69 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:53,640 » I mean, we could have had a nice improvement update on something that 70 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:58,400 would not upset anybody. >> I don't think it's up to the planning 71 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,600 department to explore things like that. That is 72 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:06,040 » Well, we didn't have any information on the the the building application that we 73 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:10,760 get is the one we have to process. So, when we get an application, it's brought 74 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,080 to the to the planning commission. We had 75 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,040 I don't know if that would have made a difference in the processing of the 76 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:21,000 application that was submitted to us cuz that was 77 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,600 what was submitted was brought to But uh I did not know any have any 78 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,960 information on the recycling center Johnson Road or whatever that 79 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,840 Yeah. >> It it could have 80 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Oh, that's terrible. >> It had a great fit for that location. It 81 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,640 would have just been so much better for everybody. 82 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Anyway, just wanted to put that out there. 83 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,880 » Um I have an item 84 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:49,600 as far as uh received a uh 85 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:53,680 email from Dana Hawkins at the time part of that concerning 86 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,480 California associate. 87 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,200 After Joe Clark that's coming up on October 88 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,200 23rd, 24th. 89 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:08,160 Is there any provisions for any of us to >> I thought there was uh four there's 90 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,400 enough budget for one representative to go. I would propose the chair as the 91 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,960 chair. Um we have to have funds in our budget 92 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:19,440 to be able to do that. And consulted with our fiscal officer and 93 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,160 with the CEO and there was 94 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:28,000 sufficient funds where we could do the travel authorization 95 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:32,800 if you wanted to attend. >> Um is there anyone else that would like 96 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:37,360 to attend? Council Foster. 97 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,360 » I'm still looking at my calendar. 98 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:47,469 » Hopefully put these during the holidays. >> [laughter] 99 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,760 » I probably would. >> Okay. 100 00:06:54,360 --> 00:07:01,720 » If you do want to let me know and we can make the do the travel authorizations. 101 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Things we need to put in the budget. >> Good point. 102 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,800 » Good point. 103 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:15,120 » Okay, correspondence. Which one is 104 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:19,480 I think Presentation by staff. Any other 105 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480 presentations? 106 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:27,360 The minutes that were provided with the October 4th August minutes. 107 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,280 » August 4th. >> August 4th minutes. 108 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:36,280 It says August 4th. >> Yeah. 109 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,720 » I think we can approve the August 4th minutes. Do we have a second? 110 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Second. Mr. Beatty 111 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Looking good. 112 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:57,640 discussion All those in favor say aye. 113 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,320 opposed Motion carried. 114 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:11,520 This time we will open up to our meeting to 115 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:17,000 items of pertaining to discussion from anyone in our audience. Uh from 116 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:21,120 here on we will continue with our meeting. 117 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Seeing none. Our next resolution in line for adoption 118 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,440 is 19 21 26. 119 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:38,840 For our first item public hearing use permit uh 226-004 120 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:41,280 Albrad. 121 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,240 » Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. My name is Matt Goetz, 122 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,640 and I'm the senior planner with the Planning Department. 123 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,480 Today I'll be presenting on lease termination number 2026-004. 124 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:09,160 The property being Green Valley Enterprises at all, and it being 125 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Caltrans. 126 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Proposal for a non-public utility line for transmission of electricity and one 127 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:25,880 legal parcel parcel multiple APNs necessitating right of way acquisition. 128 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:30,480 Project site is zoned UCAP, upland conservation and agricultural preserve 129 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:34,320 combining district, and is designated extensive agricultural in the Lassen 130 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,520 County General Plan. Is there 131 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Project site is along Highway 395. 132 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:47,560 It's approximately 4 miles north of the city. 133 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:51,880 This is a minute site by the county and that's adjacent to the 134 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,880 subject parcel. 135 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,640 August 16th. 136 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:06,600 Then we have a vicinity map of the area showing the project site and listing the 137 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:12,040 hands as well as 138 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,040 those transmission lines in red. 139 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,320 You see where it's at in relation to the highway. 140 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:29,560 The ordinance for application Lassen County Code Chapter 18.102 use permits, 141 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:33,600 which states in part under section 18.102.035 142 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,920 that the Planning Commission shall have the authority to approve condition or 143 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:42,360 deny the use permit application. 144 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,640 Lassen County Code Section 18.102.020 B2 145 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,880 allows [clears throat] for public utility lines for transmission or 146 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,760 distribution of electricity in all districts within the approved district. 147 00:10:54,839 --> 00:11:02,400 Project is exempt from CEQA under section 15061 B3 of the CEQA guidelines. 148 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:09,080 We have a list of some of the conditions of approval which will also 149 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,920 If anyone has a question regarding the application. 150 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:24,400 » So, I I wanted to just point out the section that Matt cited. Caltrans is not 151 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:28,640 a public utility, so we have a section in our zoning code which Matt just cited 152 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:33,280 that says that non-public utilities when they have electric distribution lines, 153 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:37,360 the transmission lines, that it requires a use permit. So, since they're not a 154 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:41,520 public utility, often that section is applicable to Caltrans, and they 155 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:46,960 indicate such in their packet as in their letter as well. But, that's why 156 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:53,360 I'm reviewing it as for that line for the right-of-way acquisition. 157 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,360 So, that's typically why it's there. 158 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,880 » Another question, um why are they putting this new electric 159 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,640 uh electric line? >> It's for 160 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,720 lighting. Yeah, for the stations. 161 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:31,960 » So, that part of it on the what they're displaying, what they're showing, 162 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:37,200 that's within their jurisdiction. And within their jurisdiction, it's the 163 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,200 right-of-way acquisition. 164 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,040 » Uh I didn't pick that up in 165 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:49,920 But, Caltrans is not Was it which is not so 166 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Uh probably not. The 167 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,080 The owner had to sign up on the application. 168 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Uh but, uh they'll have to have an easement as well, which they'll have to 169 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:03,760 execute. But, uh But, I've I've not had any indication 170 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,760 that 171 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,760 They just need to speak. 172 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,080 So, 173 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Okay. 174 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:39,120 » This time we will open up the public hearing portion on this item. 175 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:42,560 If anyone in favor of this document, please come up to the left turn. 176 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:51,960 Being no one here, open up the doors of all. 177 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:51,960 Close the door. 178 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,120 Please step up to the left turn. Thank you, Gary. 179 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,560 Being no one coming forward, we will close the public hearing 180 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:08,280 on this item. Back to the board for further 181 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,280 discussion. 182 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,360 No further discussion, we'll entertain a motion. 183 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,160 I make a motion to uh 184 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:35,720 » Uh disapprove this preliminary application 2026. 185 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:46,200 » Okay, we have a motion to disapprove the proposal 186 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,839 before us. Do we have a second? 187 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Second. The motion will 188 00:14:56,839 --> 00:15:04,040 It's not on the meeting. Okay. Motion to approve or not. 189 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Proposal. 190 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:17,600 » Motion to approve it. Do you have the the number here? Which is what? 2026 191 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:23,640 108. >> Yes. 192 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:25,839 It's uh the resolution number 9 201 6. 193 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,040 We have a motion to approve the proposal. We have a second? 194 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,440 » I got I got to go to the 195 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,440 the minutes 196 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:51,280 The issue was given since the district the district 197 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,840 They actually think that I was in the district. 198 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,400 So you can divide the money You know like that. 199 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:03,320 First of all, I didn't even do the land acquisition 200 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:07,640 and there was any issue in the way. That was one 201 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,640 thing that was clear so 202 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:18,440 If and granted it was a high priority job 203 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:23,000 I'm very familiar with this location. I'm driven 204 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,000 every time 205 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,880 It can be a you know a little hostile it is in the winter time. 206 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,160 But it's good. 207 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:38,400 My biggest thing is you know it's over here. 208 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:43,320 Um potential for 209 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,320 causing a fire there. 210 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Look up side right here. So 211 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,760 I'm going to get some down through the storm. 212 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,839 I would put it in 213 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,920 I would appreciate it. This is the risk I 214 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,520 it's on. It's worth it. 215 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:10,319 It's laid out. You know if it was something where it 216 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:10,319 was underground mines and 217 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,520 it would be a place to store but it's just the way it looks to me right now. 218 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,880 » So you're responding to a motion that's on the floor. 219 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:39,360 Sit there for a second. You have a motion on the floor from the 220 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:44,240 commissioner of finance. Proposals. 221 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,240 Second again. 222 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Thank you, Mayor O'Brien. 223 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,840 So. 224 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:09,040 You have a motion and a second. Proposals. 225 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Proposals in favor. 226 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,200 Opposed. 227 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,760 Mr. Terry, Terry. 228 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:33,760 Three to one. Um 229 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,760 that's the only item on the agenda. 230 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:39,680 You have a motion on the floor. I would like to make a comment. 231 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:44,880 We've been sitting on this board for over 15 years. Occasionally we will 232 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,880 disagree. 233 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:52,120 You know, Gerald and I disagree on items and you know 234 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,040 disagree We can agree to disagree, so to speak, 235 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,640 but I'm glad we brought out those 236 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,440 disagreements of the board. 237 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Hopefully that uh I don't know if it's going to take or 238 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,320 whatever. Talk to the public. 239 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:15,160 Something that uh appreciated by the public. I appreciate 240 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,160 the from the public. 241 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,640 But, uh with that, uh it's 242 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,000 a day and we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 243 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,960 » To clarify, you don't have to. >> Okay, we don't have to have an emotion.