[0:04] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, [0:09] and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation [0:13] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:26] » Mr. Paul, are you up? [0:31] I want a second. [0:35] It's a meeting. [0:37] Remove. Oh, you haven't got the remote though. [0:41] » I >> It's all new to me, sir. [0:44] » Can we start over? >> Mhm. [0:48] One second, I'll take a look. [1:02] Okay. Okay. [1:05] Commissioner Gigli? >> Here. [1:07] » Commissioner Clark? >> Here. [1:09] » Commissioner Askew? >> Present. [1:11] » Commissioner Solomon? >> Here. [1:13] » You said that Commissioner Porter is absent. He called in, you know, he was [1:17] going to be absent. [1:21] » Any other update on zoning activity? >> Well, one update is uh that we the the [1:26] Board of Supervisors met about uh remote access to the meetings. And as [1:31] you can see on the agenda, we included language for remote access. And there's [1:36] a link up in the agenda on our website, so people can click on it and go to the [1:40] remote access. There's also language that if [1:44] uh you want to submit comments, it has to be in person or written comments in [1:48] advance of the meeting. There's no mechanism for the public to be able to [1:51] talk through the remote access. And there's a disclaimer that if broadcast [1:56] is interrupted for any reason, the meeting will proceed in person. [2:00] If there are any new items on the agenda, I also want to let [2:03] you know that we went to on Skyline Road to the Board of [2:07] Supervisors last week, and the board approved it unanimously. [2:11] So, it's approved with conditions. [2:20] I think that's all the update. [2:24] Are there any other issues raised by commissioners? [2:29] » Yes, it's a matter of our June meeting when the recycling [2:33] the new recycling center was created. So, then I did not vote for it [2:38] anyway. My husband and I were driving down [2:40] Johnstonville Road, and I noticed that the recycling center [2:44] on Johnstonville Road is for sale. [2:48] And I said to him, "Well, wouldn't that wouldn't that have been a way that they [2:51] bought right there? That would have been an improvement for that." [2:55] The neighbors would have all been upset. And I thought, "Well, too bad." [3:00] And um then a couple weeks later somebody [3:03] approached me and said the Ingram's [3:06] grant for that recycling center [3:09] was written for the Johnstonville Road property. In fact, they had it in [3:14] escrow. And then at some point changed gears and [3:17] moved out to the property beyond the CHP. Anyway, [3:21] I think that's information we could have used. [3:25] I know that your interest was to table it [3:29] and to learn a bit more. And I don't [3:33] we can only make decisions on the information that we get. And I certainly [3:37] didn't know that, and I asked one of the supervisors, they didn't know anything [3:40] about it. We've got a group of poor people who are [3:45] on their bikes and walk out to that recycling center, and I don't think [3:49] they're going to make it out to the highway [3:51] by the CHP. I think that's sad. [3:54] And um [4:00] it's sad. Um [4:05] Anyway, just wanted y'all to know that. Could [4:08] have gone a different route, but Oh, that's what I wanted to say is that when [4:12] the new one opens, when the new one opens, is that one [4:16] going to survive? I would I would recommend it doesn't. [4:22] » I think they will be owned by the same person or someone else could come in [4:26] there too. [4:30] It was Johnson Road. Johnson Road is what it [4:35] » It was Johnson Road. >> Something like that. My arrogance is [4:38] that right there. [4:40] Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my arrogance is where where Stein is. Stein is It's Stein is [4:44] there. >> But anyway, um [4:47] » I mean, we could have had a nice improvement update on something that [4:50] would not upset anybody. >> I don't think it's up to the planning [4:55] department to explore things like that. That is [4:58] » Well, we didn't have any information on the the the building application that we [5:03] get is the one we have to process. So, when we get an application, it's brought [5:08] to the to the planning commission. We had [5:12] I don't know if that would have made a difference in the processing of the [5:14] application that was submitted to us cuz that was [5:18] what was submitted was brought to But uh I did not know any have any [5:22] information on the recycling center Johnson Road or whatever that [5:26] Yeah. >> It it could have [5:30] Oh, that's terrible. >> It had a great fit for that location. It [5:34] would have just been so much better for everybody. [5:37] Anyway, just wanted to put that out there. [5:40] » Um I have an item [5:43] as far as uh received a uh [5:46] email from Dana Hawkins at the time part of that concerning [5:51] California associate. [5:55] After Joe Clark that's coming up on October [5:58] 23rd, 24th. [6:01] Is there any provisions for any of us to >> I thought there was uh four there's [6:06] enough budget for one representative to go. I would propose the chair as the [6:10] chair. Um we have to have funds in our budget [6:13] to be able to do that. And consulted with our fiscal officer and [6:17] with the CEO and there was [6:20] sufficient funds where we could do the travel authorization [6:25] if you wanted to attend. >> Um is there anyone else that would like [6:30] to attend? Council Foster. [6:34] » I'm still looking at my calendar. [6:41] » Hopefully put these during the holidays. >> [laughter] [6:51] » I probably would. >> Okay. [6:54] » If you do want to let me know and we can make the do the travel authorizations. [6:59] Things we need to put in the budget. >> Good point. [7:02] » Good point. [7:09] » Okay, correspondence. Which one is [7:13] I think Presentation by staff. Any other [7:16] presentations? [7:21] The minutes that were provided with the October 4th August minutes. [7:26] » August 4th. >> August 4th minutes. [7:31] It says August 4th. >> Yeah. [7:37] » I think we can approve the August 4th minutes. Do we have a second? [7:44] Second. Mr. Beatty [7:46] Looking good. [7:51] discussion All those in favor say aye. [7:55] opposed Motion carried. [8:04] This time we will open up to our meeting to [8:08] items of pertaining to discussion from anyone in our audience. Uh from [8:14] here on we will continue with our meeting. [8:19] Seeing none. Our next resolution in line for adoption [8:23] is 19 21 26. [8:30] For our first item public hearing use permit uh 226-004 [8:39] Albrad. [8:49] » Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. My name is Matt Goetz, [8:52] and I'm the senior planner with the Planning Department. [8:54] Today I'll be presenting on lease termination number 2026-004. [9:02] The property being Green Valley Enterprises at all, and it being [9:06] Caltrans. [9:13] Proposal for a non-public utility line for transmission of electricity and one [9:17] legal parcel parcel multiple APNs necessitating right of way acquisition. [9:23] Project site is zoned UCAP, upland conservation and agricultural preserve [9:28] combining district, and is designated extensive agricultural in the Lassen [9:32] County General Plan. Is there [9:37] Project site is along Highway 395. [9:41] It's approximately 4 miles north of the city. [9:45] This is a minute site by the county and that's adjacent to the [9:48] subject parcel. [9:52] August 16th. [10:00] Then we have a vicinity map of the area showing the project site and listing the [10:05] hands as well as [10:08] those transmission lines in red. [10:12] You see where it's at in relation to the highway. [10:22] The ordinance for application Lassen County Code Chapter 18.102 use permits, [10:27] which states in part under section 18.102.035 [10:32] that the Planning Commission shall have the authority to approve condition or [10:35] deny the use permit application. [10:38] Lassen County Code Section 18.102.020 B2 [10:43] allows [clears throat] for public utility lines for transmission or [10:46] distribution of electricity in all districts within the approved district. [10:54] Project is exempt from CEQA under section 15061 B3 of the CEQA guidelines. [11:03] We have a list of some of the conditions of approval which will also [11:10] If anyone has a question regarding the application. [11:18] » So, I I wanted to just point out the section that Matt cited. Caltrans is not [11:22] a public utility, so we have a section in our zoning code which Matt just cited [11:26] that says that non-public utilities when they have electric distribution lines, [11:31] the transmission lines, that it requires a use permit. So, since they're not a [11:34] public utility, often that section is applicable to Caltrans, and they [11:39] indicate such in their packet as in their letter as well. But, that's why [11:44] I'm reviewing it as for that line for the right-of-way acquisition. [11:49] So, that's typically why it's there. [11:55] » Another question, um why are they putting this new electric [11:59] uh electric line? >> It's for [12:02] lighting. Yeah, for the stations. [12:25] » So, that part of it on the what they're displaying, what they're showing, [12:30] that's within their jurisdiction. And within their jurisdiction, it's the [12:33] right-of-way acquisition. [12:37] » Uh I didn't pick that up in [12:42] But, Caltrans is not Was it which is not so [12:47] Uh probably not. The [12:51] The owner had to sign up on the application. [12:54] Uh but, uh they'll have to have an easement as well, which they'll have to [12:57] execute. But, uh But, I've I've not had any indication [13:01] that [13:04] They just need to speak. [13:07] So, [13:29] Okay. [13:32] » This time we will open up the public hearing portion on this item. [13:36] If anyone in favor of this document, please come up to the left turn. [13:45] Being no one here, open up the doors of all. [13:49] Close the door. [13:52] Please step up to the left turn. Thank you, Gary. [13:59] Being no one coming forward, we will close the public hearing [14:03] on this item. Back to the board for further [14:05] discussion. [14:13] No further discussion, we'll entertain a motion. [14:25] I make a motion to uh [14:29] » Uh disapprove this preliminary application 2026. [14:39] » Okay, we have a motion to disapprove the proposal [14:45] before us. Do we have a second? [14:51] Second. The motion will [14:56] It's not on the meeting. Okay. Motion to approve or not. [15:01] Proposal. [15:11] » Motion to approve it. Do you have the the number here? Which is what? 2026 [15:15] 108. >> Yes. [15:19] It's uh the resolution number 9 201 6. [15:29] We have a motion to approve the proposal. We have a second? [15:38] » I got I got to go to the [15:40] the minutes [15:44] The issue was given since the district the district [15:49] They actually think that I was in the district. [15:52] So you can divide the money You know like that. [15:57] First of all, I didn't even do the land acquisition [16:00] and there was any issue in the way. That was one [16:04] thing that was clear so [16:11] If and granted it was a high priority job [16:15] I'm very familiar with this location. I'm driven [16:20] every time [16:25] It can be a you know a little hostile it is in the winter time. [16:29] But it's good. [16:32] My biggest thing is you know it's over here. [16:36] Um potential for [16:40] causing a fire there. [16:43] Look up side right here. So [16:49] I'm going to get some down through the storm. [16:53] I would put it in [16:55] I would appreciate it. This is the risk I [17:00] it's on. It's worth it. [17:03] It's laid out. You know if it was something where it [17:06] was underground mines and [17:10] it would be a place to store but it's just the way it looks to me right now. [17:27] » So you're responding to a motion that's on the floor. [17:32] Sit there for a second. You have a motion on the floor from the [17:36] commissioner of finance. Proposals. [17:41] Second again. [17:49] Thank you, Mayor O'Brien. [18:00] So. [18:03] You have a motion and a second. Proposals. [18:13] Proposals in favor. [18:19] Opposed. [18:23] Mr. Terry, Terry. [18:27] Three to one. Um [18:29] that's the only item on the agenda. [18:34] You have a motion on the floor. I would like to make a comment. [18:37] We've been sitting on this board for over 15 years. Occasionally we will [18:42] disagree. [18:45] You know, Gerald and I disagree on items and you know [18:49] disagree We can agree to disagree, so to speak, [18:54] but I'm glad we brought out those [18:56] disagreements of the board. [18:59] Hopefully that uh I don't know if it's going to take or [19:03] whatever. Talk to the public. [19:07] Something that uh appreciated by the public. I appreciate [19:11] the from the public. [19:15] But, uh with that, uh it's [19:19] a day and we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. [19:25] » To clarify, you don't have to. >> Okay, we don't have to have an emotion.