All right, Pastor. Say it for me.
Casa de O'Donnell, I see him, means House of Prayer. That's it. House of Prayer. And remain
standing for the pleasure of legions. Pastor,
a pleasure to leave? No, to pray. Go ahead and say the prayer
and then we'll do the pledge. And I want me to take an opportunity
and we'll fast to thank the council, people, members and city manager, city clerk and the mayor
for this heart and opportunity.
I am honored to say that I got my wife with me,
eat it, and my mother and Lord,
my sister, Lord, that are visiting us
from all parts of Texas, and they enjoy themselves.
Every time they come to Lord in a plahoma.
So we're going to borrow heads and burdens
to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and more pray.
Well, Lord, God, we come before you and this evening, Lord.
We're glad to and humble hearts, Lord.
to thank you for everything that you have allowed us to do so far.
I want to thank you in advance for everything else that we're going to be doing to rest of this evening, God.
I thank you for the leaders of this community.
I thank you for the city manager, the city clerk, of mayor,
the members of the councilor, continue blessing them,
of wisdom and strength, Lord, so they could continue going forth with the goals in the best
interest of this city. Bless every family, every single person, every child, every adolescent
in this town, Father. Make law in a city that will shine among the state, Lord. I ask you this
You'll name Jesus Christ, amen.
And I just say it's over there.
And you'll do the re-development for which it stands.
One nation, another God, individual,
with liberty, and justice for all.
All right.
Thank you so much, Pastor.
Appreciate you coming.
Please call the roll.
Guten.
Chapman.
Gil.
Hampton.
We're here.
How's it going?
Business item number one in place but like word, Melissa Gomez, John.
Melissa Gomez, come on down.
So Melissa works at Central Fire Station.
She's worked there approximately two and a half years.
And one of the key tenets of our true north culture statement that was just approved
by the voters to be a permanent part of our city charter is we're open for business.
And what Melissa did a few weeks ago was a perfect example of being open for business.
So she was contacted by a vendor, a food truck vendor who was trying to get a fire
inspection for their vehicle, Melissa was able to square them away.
But what happened next, separate part in this regard is she was able to, once the inspection
was taken care of, she got the necessary documents from license and permits because they
really busy that day and they couldn't respond immediately. So Melissa made sure that she got them,
make sure that they were filled out properly. And that citizen was able to get their business
license and all the necessary permits to sell. And that's what we want to do. That's our
goals and municipality is to enable our citizens and our business owners to do what they need to do.
So please give Melissa a round of applause for making that happen.
And we're going to move item two to
I have reports which brings up the clean sweep award which I believe is the Buffalo Soldiers.
So you guys come on down front.
Okay, in the working.
So Saturday night, we have the Buffalo Soldier banquet.
And it's probably was one of my favorite banquet in the whole seven years.
I've been the mayor, I just really enjoyed it was such a great, relaxed attitude, just
down to earth folks and I was telling the trip of Washington that early President Washington.
And he told me, well, we're just down to earth people.
So that was why you had such a down to earth bank, but not really appreciate it.
And my wife and I really enjoyed it.
And the clean sweep award is all about keeping our city beautiful, keeping it clean.
Because there's no way that we can do it without citizen groups, adopting different miles of road it is one mile, right?
And these guys get out there once a quarter or more.
And they pick up later along a certain place, and this doesn't tell me where your place is.
We'll say again.
Yes.
Fort Seal to I-44.
Let me be more in the mind.
Well, you guys did good and I want you to know I appreciate it and the community appreciates
it.
So let's read this, clean sweep award, proud to present it to the Buffalo soldiers, the special
recognition honors community groups and organizations that actively contribute to keeping
our city claimed by regularly, picking up litter.
It celebrates their dedication to maintaining a beautiful and welcome in the environment for
all residents.
Let's give them that big of a round of applause.
Okay.
There you go.
Tony.
Oh.
Thank you, sir.
On behalf of the 19th, Worst Cavalry Buffalo Soldiers, we like to thank you for
given us this honor, because we do this within pride that we do is one of the things that we commit ourselves to do in the community.
So, we like to thank you all for this award, and we continue to support the community within the community by doing several things.
So, thank you again, sir, and the City of Lawdon, for allowing us to be here to receive this.
Okay, now we've got a national surgical technology way.
Do we have someone here to receive that information?
Yeah, I don't think we do.
So we have about Hispanic Heritage Man.
We've got somebody to receive that.
Usually, that's our birdies here.
Oh, here we go.
They just told me I skipped something real important,
but we'll get back to it.
I love doing these, whereas each year Americans observe national, Hispanic heritage month
from September 15, October 15, celebrating the histories, cultures, contributions of American
citizens, his ancestors come from Spain, Mexico to Caribbean, and Central and South America.
And whereas the observations started in 1968 as Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson,
and was expanded by President Ronald Reagan in 1988 to cover a 30-day period,
starting on September 15th and ending up where we get to celebrate for a month.
Party. It was enacted into law in August 17, 1988 on the approval of Public Law 10422. During
his Spanish, Hispanic Heritage Month, we take opportunity to honor all Americans of Hispanic
descent and to acknowledge their path and ongoing contributions to the success and growth
of our nation and community. Hispanic Americans are the largest minority group in the
United States today, in generations of Hispanic Americans
that consistently help make our country strong and prosperous.
Whereas this year's theme, Latinos, driving prosperity, power,
and progress in America, highlights the significant impact
of Hispanics to America's economic, political, and social advancement.
Therefore, I do recognize September 15, October 15, 2025 as Hispanic, Hispanic Heritage Month
and encourage the whole city to party for a month, and party for a month, and don't forget
the international festival where we celebrate lots of cultures that are here in our community.
Let's give them a big round.
Okay, and I know Mary, and let's say so.
On behalf of the Race Relations Commission,
we want to thank the city for recognizing on Hispanic Heritage Month,
and then going to who is one of our members
of the Race Relations Commission.
In fact, all of us are, but John Bernoulli is too,
which is sitting in the back.
We want to come up here.
Kim, come up here.
Here, she's sitting in the back.
So we're just really wondering if they got to come up here today.
Thank you.
Okay.
Now I'm going to turn it over to the City Manager to do this Oklahoma Municipal League presentation
to Rusty Weeson that who was inducted into the Oklahoma Hall of Fame for City
and Town officials and Donald Land Blazic Schurler who won the Dawn Rider Transparency
and Government Award.
I hope I didn't steal your host's speech.
No, you didn't.
Thank you.
So, this may be seen Rusty and Donald Linn were both recognized at a state level conference last week.
Rusty was inducted into the Oakland Municipal League Hall of Fame.
That is quite an honor.
Yeah, I think that deserves a round.
Rusty has been a faithful employee for over 30 years of last track of the exam.
Up over 30, 35 years.
The 35 years, that's a long time, that's a real long time.
and rest is provided some amazing service to our city or community,
South West Oklahoma over the years is our director of public utilities now,
but he's held a variety of different jobs leading up to that position,
so we're incredibly proud of him and we're thankful for his service.
Please give him a round of applause.
Oh, and we have a medal for you, Rusty.
It's your Hall of Fame medal.
We did have a yellow jacket, but there's budget cuts, so let's see what to get.
I would prefer orange, but yellow will do,
and most people do not understand, it really
relies that, you know, I've got 35 years with the City of Lulton, but I'll work for two other
municipalities through contract operational companies and also spend a year working in running
and water and waste water system for food.
Along with that, many years of project management,
construction management, and everything,
but service to our citizens, I have two daughters,
four granddaughters, and two daughters,
and wife are here tonight.
But I don't live what I do for today,
I do what I do for tomorrow.
My granddaughters.
You're a granddaughter. That's what's important. This kid's first initiative that the city of
Lawton has adopted. That is what's important. And we need to all be serving our young people
and making their life what it needs to be so that they can take care of their children when they come along.
So service is an important part of my life.
Thank you, I see.
There's a ways of what can we want to come up and do a quick picture with our Hall of Fame dad.
The second award that has seen a lot of employee received, I was from a down a little blaze of churler, and she received the Don Rader Transparency Award.
And what that award is given to you in you list is for the public official that's most dedicated to transparency and communicating with members of the public when they submit open records requests for when they submit questions.
And I tell you that I've worked closely with Donna Lynn on the open records program since
I've been here for nearly five years since both the city attorney and the city manager.
And just where we are today is supposed to where we were five years ago, it's an incredible
transformation.
You know, I remember when I got here, open records request were handled, somebody would get
and they would forward the email and they would say,
hey, just identify whatever documents you have in respond.
That was the process, that's what we had.
So we came from that, we developed a policy,
now we have software that enables us to research better
and to find responsive documents and ultimately provide
information that our citizens ask of us.
and this transformation would not have been possible without data written.
She's been instrumental, you know, she's very patient, she's very thorough, she gets the job done,
and this is really incredible honor. And I can't think of a more deserving person that has earned this.
So please give that a round of applause.
Okay, and we've got a plaque for you down here?
Okay, now we're going to before we get on the consent agenda, until about a few agenda item changes.
We're going to strike item 45 on staff reports.
Then I'm going to May of Item 42 and 43, which deal with homelessness and some degree.
And we're going to move those up with our unfinished business and our first two items on the business
items, which also deal with the CDBG and other homeless issues.
So that way we can do all that together.
I think there are several people here that want to speak and we'll go ahead and move those
up to let them speak on that.
Now in the consent agenda, we're going to strike item 19 and we're going to poll item 22.
And that's all I have, Council.
Oh, that's deep.
Mayor.
Okay, so we're also pulling item nine.
Yes.
We skipped reports.
Oh.
I'm doing pretty good at skipping things today.
Well, let's go ahead since I started as consent.
We'll go ahead and do this and before we go to the
two consent items will do report. So we've pulled item 22 and 9 and we struck 19. Do I have a
motion?
Okay, please are we voting or call the wrong?
Please vote.
You sure you voted?
I didn't want to take it down.
Motion carries 7 to 0. All right, and before we do those two consent items we're going to jump
back and do reports. We're going to start with the
caramel. What do you have for us, colonel?
All right. Hope everybody's doing well. I want to say thanks
for everybody for our black-start exercise. I really
will turn the lights off. Turn it back on. Not a whole lot of
issues there. So it's really great. It learned a lot of great
lessons learned. So really great support from the community.
A couple of things coming up this weekend, if you're a
Marine or a light to support Marines, they have our
30 second annual double dollar on. So come on out to the
as 0-8, this Saturday, and then following that, it's a really great brunch.
And if you're a Marine, we will have crayons for you to eat.
So if you know if you're a Marine, you know what I'm talking about.
All the Marines know chocolate crayons for everybody.
And what's near and near to my heart is I also think it's near and near to everybody else's heart.
October fast, three October, three October, October fast,
at Fort Sills Patriot Club.
Starts at 1700 goes to a little 2200 or 10pm for everybody.
My favorite part is I get to do it at 1800 or 6pm
or tap in the keg.
I get to tap it.
I can't wait.
It's going to be a ton of fun.
Come on out.
Got a lot of drops, a lot of German food.
Got some folks who know they're playing some music.
It'd be really great.
And then that following Saturday on the fourth
is October Fest Run.
So you get October Fest Friday night.
And if you're feeling up to it, come right up with us on Saturday, if you're feeling up to it.
And then the last thing is hey, you're like football, come on out to the Patriot Club.
Every Thursday night, for Thursday night, for football.
It's going to be a ton of fun.
We have a great honor and challenge.
You get to put your name in the hat and you do some picks for who's winning what.
And if you're the lucky winner, you win like a T-shirt or something.
But come on out and have a good time.
It is a ton of fun.
So thanks a lot, sir.
I really appreciate it.
All right.
Thank you.
I just wanted to say that it's really been a pleasure working with Rusty.
I told him earlier that he's not allowed to leave.
So he just don't get a big head.
You just have to keep showing up.
But I think Rusty may very well be the person that's been here longer than I am.
But he has never failed to provide the service that he was supposed to above and beyond.
He's always been helpful.
He's answered questions for me when it wasn't even his department.
He just has always been very, very helpful when I greatly appreciate that.
Same with Donald L.N., I don't know what I do without.
her. I just, it's almost like AI. I just kind of, I say, four words that almost
match and she knows what I'm talking about and moves forward and makes it happen.
But I do
appreciate that and we have many, many, many great employees at the city a lot and that's
just two examples, and I greatly appreciate both of you.
I think that's one of Williams.
Yes, I'd just like to appreciate everyone
who's been participating in the World 7,
the painting project.
We're on today's front news paper council.
Councilman George Giel and I, and the home owner,
but I'd like to ask you to pay for the homeowner
when he was living with the mother.
She passed last Sunday, she died.
But she died helping her on at her home
was going to be paying it.
She was overjoyed about that.
Also, we were sending the whole last newspaper also.
Also, in WACP, for even banquet,
It's going to be October to 4th, and it's going to be a calming university in the
cast in the bathroom.
If you need a ticket, you can call 50-0-536-691-3.
And I'd just like to advise you, if you see your neighbor and they may need some help, I'd
advise you to see what you can do to happen, because that is what I did.
Thank you.
Okay, Mr. Wieger.
Thank you, Mayor.
open streets. What a success. We had a great time last Saturday. And of course, one of the things that I found really refreshing is meeting new folks that said,
this is my first time coming to open streets. I didn't know this was here. And we had some wonderful visits with fellow citizens.
And all of them were talking about how excited they were to be a part of Watton.
And I'm just very thankful for Miss Summer who kind of orchestrated and put all that
together and of course the city putting their blessing on it as well and the participants
it was just a lot of fun to spend time with fellow latinians.
And I'm also glad to see Miss Donna Lynn and Rusty both receiving those rewards because it
Make sure you feel good that the state of Oklahoma understands something that we've known for a long time.
We have some wonderful people serving our city.
Thank you, Mayor.
All right, Mr. Hampton.
Yes, Mayor, thank you.
I love that word of five stuff that's going on.
If I'm going to the farmers market, of course, that this is a year around being.
Make sure you get out there and get you to the fresh vegetables, the margins of crafts.
And meet some of your fellow citizens.
Very, very good time out there.
I also want to echo open streets.
You know, I'm a street program in such a fantastic program
that other cities come here to model their open street program
with our program.
I had the opportunity to be one of the people that found it
that and have supported that.
That's a lot of work to put that together.
I want to say thank you to the staff that get up at 7 o'clock
in the morning or earlier to try to get the barriers up
and get everything set up for that.
in the tearing down. It's a lot of work behind the scenes. And I know that the Park's
Rick's Department as well as some other staff members are there. Congratulations to Jason
on your little business downtown. What does that call again?
That Kerry Ossie Avenue, if you
have a chance to go to see that, that's a wonderful thing for the kids. Kids, first of course,
and also want to echo Donald Land. I know I come and talk to you. I know you do tables full,
but you always help in your own sort of congenial
appreciate that, congratulations to you and Leslie.
You're in the Rusty.
Thank you, Mayor.
Mr. Gill,
two quick things.
I remember that they almost the day that Rusty came
to work for the city.
I've known him ever since.
I've worked with him on many projects.
I think he's one of the best engineers I've ever had
the opportunity to work with.
City of Rotten has really been extremely fortunate
to have had him all this time.
I hope that doesn't mean you're gone, I see it just means since we've had you, we'll keep
you as long as we can, so I wanted to mention that.
Second thing on our streets program, it's, it's, it's, our mill and overlay has really been
a very successful project.
It's not only new roads, new surfaces, but it's also a maintenance program which we've really
never had at this level before in the city of Lotton, and I hear a little bit of negative
here and there, but these streets are really going to last us a lot longer for a lot less
money and we can get a lot more done.
In one quick point, 38 streets coming along really good, it will be open the end of this
week for north traffic at least half way.
There's been some questions on mill and overlay, so I'm going to clarify, 38 street is a
brand new street.
It is 11 inches of asphalt over rock base.
You can land an airplane on that if you need to.
So that is a completely 100% Bending Street for a lot less money.
Thank you.
I'm happy for me.
What's going on in World Two, my good friend, over at McManatorium and Arson Humanity
sent me an update.
So unfortunately, this Friday is the last day for the Water Park season, closes at 7 p.m.
So I had to see that, but I am glad that that is a asset to the city for our youth to have something to do.
The other thing is, this is good news, the 46 annual international festival kicks off at 5, the opening ceremony is at 5.45.
The festival runs through Sunday, so this weekend, my wife Victoria has already told me that that is where it will be, so there are things to do with law.
I'll come on out.
Okay.
Catch me.
Well, I've been here about almost two hours now, so the report's going to be real this short.
I do. I'm really thankful for the help and support from the staff here in the city, and it's really impressive.
And look forward to maybe have something else to report on next time. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, City Manager.
So, come on out and enjoy International Fest this weekend.
You might see Colonel Beard out there with some international officers, he was out there
last year.
Lots of fun, lots of opportunity to interact with folks, lots of great food.
So you don't want to miss it, there's a, you know, councilman apps went over a few of
the highlights.
But if you want to look at the specific schedule, just go to SwalkArts.com, just go to
website, you can get the schedule. And then the last thing that I've got is on September 30th
will be closing on our CIP loan. And so this loan, the projects that will be included
in this loan are the museum, the 105 streets, the animal welfare center, and the library.
All right, great. Very good. That brings up item 9. It's better accepting a deed to
Senate 10332, block 63 of the Lotton Heights edition, commonly known as Lottes 3 and 4, block 63,
Lotton Heights edition, accepting payment of $5,000, and approved dismissing the pending
action in the District Court of Commandity County, titled City of Lotton, Oklahoma Municipal
operation versus transforming hand ink at all case number CJ-2025-265-10.
Thank you.
And just briefly, Mayor and Council.
This case is so for transparency.
So everyone knows this is our nursing home demo case out on Andrew's Avenue.
You've been briefed in open session.
We briefed some in executive session about last time about potential settlement.
And this was the terms that we were the guy that's what we talked about in executive session.
Propheoners is needing the property to the city also paying us $5,000.
We have the quick claim deed.
We have the check.
It's my understanding.
And so just for transparency, I see people.
So we know which one we're voting on.
And I would ask Council to go ahead and approve this.
Thank you.
Yeah, motion.
There are motion 2 asked.
Again, motion 1, there's seven to zero,
bringing about 22.
Consider approving proposed appointments to boards,
and commissions.
And Matina Davis asked to speak on this.
As Matina here.
Apparently she's left.
Can I get a motion for approval?
I'll say that.
Please vote.
Motion carries.
carries, bringing up end-finished business, receiving updated presentation from family promise,
regarding the request for community housing development organization, CHDO project, for the
acquisition and rehabilitation of building and property located at 13 o'clock South West
Diabona, and authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to sign all required documents pertaining
to this project.
So we originally brought this project to you on July 22nd and it was table so that we could do some additional information.
Michael Tau is here. He's a president of the Board of Family Promise and he is going to do a slight presentation for you guys and ask for a signing of the agreement for the $33,000 tonight.
So, Charlotte, here's going to pass out our what we call phase one.
It just kind of breaks down what our request is for the 33,000 kind of breaks down in two different sections,
apologies can be one second.
So, is there any, I know you already haven't had a chance to look at this two depth,
but it was kind of already included in the first proposal.
Is there anything specific you'd like for me to go over,
or you kind of want me to do a quick overview of the whole thing, kind of give me some guidance.
A quick one. Okay. So phase one, you'll have part A, which will be the operating support that's going to cover your staff, your administrative costs.
That's also where we're going to find that compliance part for the HUD and also the CPA financial oversight.
That's more the administrative part of there. Obviously some of that, obviously it's not in combat at this moment, it's what's coming for the future.
Part B will be the pre-development cause or assistance.
This is going to be the actual hard part construction cost.
You're going to have the conceptual design phase, which includes an engineering
port, which I know Councillor Gill was very important for us to get that done.
So that's going to be into that part.
And obviously, the survey kind of goes along with that for the actual construction.
We've had multiple meetings with CDBL.
They kind of have given us a simplistic kind of layout of the floor plan, we're very excited about what it's looking so far.
And after this one, we're going to have some follow-up meetings get prepared for the final proposal coming later.
And so we're very, very excited about what's going on so far.
Any questions?
So I'm misunderstood, Bill, and I thought you were asking for some operational funds,
which you're asking for as some money to get started on a building project.
Is that correct?
So, you know, these would be maybe I say it incorrectly, but this would be, it would be
support funds, I guess it's the best way to say that.
Support for the construction project or support for operations.
It's support for the construction project, so for the survey for the structural engineer and
to work with CDBales and move forward with plans.
Okay, did I mess in here? Have we got an estimate at all of where this is going?
With a total cost. It seems like the last time we visited it was about half a million, right?
So our original, oh, I'm sorry. Pardon me? Is it okay for me to answer?
Yeah, okay. My original pose was 540. So far we've only kind of talked about a conceptual
for a plan and then with the engineering report that was just finished and it's up coming
survey, we'll be able to get a four-year-old budget, CBOs can get us a four-budget item,
you know, how much is the HFAC, how much is each individual item, and then we'll be able to come
back with our proposal for the final part, explaining what we were requesting from the city and what
we would be seeking elsewhere, if need be. Mr. Mayor. Mr. Gu. I think it might be beneficial that
go ahead and get the additional information, get our budget situated, see where we're at, look
at the different things that we need to look at before you come back to the council and
want that money because I would think that that might depend on what we're talking about
as to what this body votes for.
I don't know, I agree. I agree. I mean, my kind of he didn't want any action to not
So my kind of understanding of this whole process, tonight is kind of what Chotter would call
the
kind of support pre-development phase, and so you can almost kind of think about it as
two separate deals.
So this support phase would be funds to help family-promise pay for the engineer, pay for
staff to work on these items, and it's all undercred that way.
And then once we finalize the budget, finalize proposal, we then come back to the city saying here is a final number.
Here is the final designs. Now we turn our official request for Choto funds to actually build the project.
So it's kind of two separate. It's all one project, but Choto, the way they have their funds, and they're out there.
I've got to think of the correct word to say here, the loud ways to release said fines
kind of gives you two different ways to do so.
So try to correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the way that Choto allows this is this
is released to allow us to develop the idea and then come to the City Council to request money
to actually build it.
If it doesn't work out the way, I don't believe there's any issues with releasing these
Now, is there a question I have because in the document, there is a proposed agreement for operational expense and for $33,000, I believe.
So are they asking counsel to approve that tonight?
Yes, yes.
We're asking counsel to approve that $33,000.
Yes, I guess what I'm confused at is that maybe things that I've heard in an unofficial
capacity is that the estimate of this is way over a million dollars.
And I don't know that I don't know that I'm ready to say we're behind the project to spend
33,000 on it, and I kind of think if we, maybe I'm wrong, if we spend this money at
prep, we're kind of saying we're behind the project, Mr. Warren.
And that's a little bit of what I was wanting to say,
I don't, honestly, don't, do we know,
maybe I got three questions, maybe three?
Do we have any idea when we're going to put a nail-in-wood, how long, what's the guesstimate
on how long that's going to be?
I don't have a date yet.
We haven't said a date yet.
Just because this part here is the pre-development part.
And so once we get those numbers and we understand it,
we then come back to City Council with the full request for actually many.
So these childal fans are...
I'm just going to very confusing.
It's very confusing to me as well.
So hopefully I'm doing this right.
Like I said, you're using it for two different things.
This is the pre-development portion to come back to you
with a full request for the funds to build construction.
So I don't believe that by approving these tonight,
you're on the hook for anything in the future.
But we need these funds to develop the plan proposal
to then come back to you to do said plan proposal.
Okay, so the next question is, so these funds can be used for operations.
Council, here's my issue, is we don't, and this is nothing personal about family promise
or any, you know, the actual project, but we don't know that that's even going to happen.
And my fear is that, once again, and just because it happens in government on a daily basis,
not necessarily here, but better government and state government and everywhere else, if we provide
that $33,000, and then the next ask is, well, the city needs to put in $250,000, that $33,000 has evaporated.
It's gone and we've got nothing for it because any plans that would have been started won't be any good in two years when it's time to finally build it
I think it needs to be a package deal. I think it needs to I don't know how they make that happen
I would much rather see a focus on spending
I mean because $33,000 is actually a small amount of money and that's why it's so easy for it to evaporate
So, if we were to provide that for operations,
where it can be spent directly to the care of the citizen
or to provide housing or whatever it is, tomorrow,
we've actually accomplished something.
I'm just afraid that we're going to spend $33,000
to get two steps down the road to find out.
We're not going to be able to spend the money that we're going to need to spend because I guarantee you the federal government's not going to spend it all.
You know, if it's a million dollars, they're not going to pay a million dollars.
We're going to have to have some kind of match.
If we don't have the money, then the $33,000 is gone.
I'd make, I'll let y'all discuss, and I'll make a motion.
So I've got a question, when you talk about, you're talking about using it for operations,
different than what this is saying, I gather.
This is talking about the operations and necessary to put together conceptual plan.
I don't gather.
That's what you're talking about.
Now my question, I guess, would be,
is can we provide that those funds to an entity for
operations?
as long as they are a non-profit.
But the rules for where that money has to go.
So the non-profit would have to be a designated
Choto, which family promises the only
Choto that we have in town.
That's designated as a Choto.
So they're the only organization at the moment
that could utilize these funding.
And Choto, that's funding expires in three days, right?
Yes.
Thank you.
We have $42,000 that will go back to the HUD federal regulations at the end of the week.
And does it have to be spent or awarded?
Spent.
How are they going to spend that much money in three days?
Correct me if I'm wrong, Michael, but I believe most of it is already spent.
And this is a reimbursement.
We might have some PO requirements that don't allow us to do this.
If I go out and buy something, I can't come in,
unplanned to get a PO on it.
Does that apply to this?
I'd have to look.
I don't know off top of my head.
We can look at the purchasing policy.
Kristen?
Kristen, I was just saying that might require a discrepancy,
but it's kind of more year-round.
It honestly depends on how we're providing the funding.
are we doing a support agreement or is the city paying for it directly?
I would need it would be a support agreement.
So we could get a PO pretty quickly for support agreement.
But it will also depend on what that support agreement says as far as how we allocate the funding.
Okay.
Thank you.
Do anybody have any more questions for Kristen?
All right.
Okay.
Mr. Weaker.
Thank you, Mayor.
Family promise owns this property currently?
No, it has not been purchased yet.
Okay.
So we would invest in the property that we don't own?
Again, this is a, this is a Choto request to develop a conceptual plan to bring to you,
which is authorizes approved funds under Choto.
And then we would then come forward before anything happens, and request funds, the Choto funds to actually
purchase and build said building.
So, you can also require that to be purchased first.
You have up to, so, again, I think once this is approved, we have up to four years to find and build,
or either find and build something brand new or buy an existing structure and remodel before
the quote unquote becomes in violation.
So this is just a, again, this is just a request
of shadow funds to develop the plan for you
before we come back to request and funds
to do the actual construction.
Once that this is kind of developed,
then we'll have an idea on date.
How long it will take to build the exact location,
exact square footage, the exact anything
and everything, three to miles you name it,
have all that stuff, and at one point
kind of clarification. These items have broken out. And so they would not go just deposited
into our operations. They would be, depending on how we set it up with the city, would
either be a request we turn in to obtain the money later or it would be set aside to get back
if something were to happen. So let's take the head compliance for consultor, for example,
at 4,500. If something were to happen in this project didn't move forward, that money would
to give them back, it would already be in your hands and would kind of disappear from out
from us.
It's kind of my understanding of how that would work.
So it's just not like you're handing me a check today for 33 to go run, fund the operations
and then hopefully come back and request you somebody.
So, just point clarification there.
Thank you.
Randy, you're giving it a question?
Not really a question.
And again, it doesn't have to do with family promise or
with all the things that have gone
on recently.
I just feel really achy about this.
And I don't know the definition of the word achy except that I feel like I'm going to be in court
someday.
And so I'm not going to be able to support it.
Because at first glance, it's like, oh, it's, you know, it's just $33,000, and if we don't spend it,
then it's going to, it's not going to go away that still taxpayer money.
It's still federal money that citizens of the United States have provided.
And if we just flippantly say, well, we'll just hope that this works, I got a problem with that.
Was that a motion to the nine?
That was a motion to deny.
Okay, we have a motion on the floor.
Is there a second
of motion on the floor to deny?
Is there a second?
Okay, the motion dies for a lack of a second.
Discussion continues.
Questions anybody?
Just for that.
Yes, if I may.
I just want to make sure I have a full understanding of this.
If the money isn't spent, then the money goes back to HUD.
That's a correct statement.
Is there another question?
Is there no other way?
Because I share some concerns.
Is there no other way to get a
total cost of?
I mean, it might be exact because I'm listening.
But the hesitation is, it's a commitment of funds.
You know, that's how I see it.
If you have a commitment of funds,
then you've inadvertently committed to the project.
Without knowing the full cost of the project,
or what the potential cost could be.
So, knee-jerk reaction,
I think,
is to,
yeah, let's hurry up and do something with the money
so that it doesn't go back to HUD
and we've utilized it toward something good.
But it almost, for me, it almost feels rushed.
And there's a lot of questions about, can we even do it?
What type of commitment does this truly mean
once we commit to paying that, et cetera?
So I'm going around, kind of, a circle.
But is this the only way that you can come close to an estimate
is to pay for these, these fees up front to have
but architecture come in and look at the property?
And again, my understanding of Choto, which is limited,
this approval only covers us to help develop a plan.
It by no means says you are supporting your ready to go
on the next step.
And even if you did not, and I might be wrong,
but this is based on how to understand.
Even if you denied our second step proposal, we would not be in violation of the use of said
Chotofons to develop the plan, because like I said, once that clock starts, it's four years
so if we get denied on this, say, first plan, we come back with a second plan.
We're still okay with HUD and we're not in violation.
That's kind of my basic understanding of Chotof rules and regulations that I've been working through.
Yes, Mr. Gibbs. I've got two questions. I heard two different things. I heard you say something
about the money would go back to HUD if we didn't spend it. But the very fact you're asking
for it means you're going to spend it. But secondly, Charlotte said earlier that it was a
reimbursement that technically this money's even already been spent.
Well, I would say this to understand that.
That's fine.
Did I miss understanding?
It's already been.
No, so at least part of it has already been spent.
I don't believe the head compliance officer in that piece of it, but I do believe that
they've already gone out and had a structural engineer come out and look at the property.
So we couldn't pay it back even if we wanted to, all of it, right?
So if we get to the point and it comes back at a million dollars or a million five or even two million dollars,
then we'll either have to go forward, whatever that price is, and or we're forfeit that money, tell me where I'm wrong.
You mean forfeit the 33,000? Yes.
And we're aware that we wouldn't, the city would not be able to fund the entire project,
so they would have to go out for grants and other money's other than what we have set aside.
Okay, so let me ask you this.
Give me a little brief definition here of how these funds can be used.
Can they be used and and can they be used for the day-to-day operations of the Choto?
Yes, they can.
We can award these funds to the Choto and we only have one.
Yes.
for day-to-day operations and they can use it as a reimbursement contract and I'm looking
at two attorneys because I want to make sure and a finance director.
And I want to make sure I'm not suggesting that this qualifies, do you understand what I'm
saying?
Because I personally am not sold on this project yet, okay?
But I am seldom what I saw at family promises, open house, where they'd read done and remodeled and
pressured and everything, and they still didn't have everything taken care of, apparently the wash machine breaks down every day.
And so they still have needs, and what they were doing is very successful.
I've visited with some people and I was very impressed with what I saw, and I am sold on what I see there.
And there's 42,000 that's going to go back to head, right?
And are you telling me that if somebody makes a motion to award this to them for operating funds
that we won't, we will have pumped that $42,000 into our homeless prevention plan,
that's really what family promise is, isn't it?
homeless prevention, which I think is what we're all very interested in, which I think
absolutely is what the kids first homeless action plant places as a number one priority.
And we wouldn't lose a 42,000, and we could help you, and if you wanted to spend your
own 33,000 to get a building plan, you could. Am I right?
So we wouldn't be able to spend the full 42,000 on the operating costs.
We are limited to 5% on the operating costs, but I just found out the other day, but we
would be able to combine several years in together to help lessen that load, because if we
don't spend all of the money, if we don't spend all of the money this year, our grant,
our
Okay, now we got to back up and explain to me better.
Okay.
Only 5% of the 42,000 can be used for operating?
Yes, I just found that out this week.
But we can combine several years.
We have about seven to ten years backed up that we haven't awarded for some reason.
I guess we have an added Jodo.
No, they just became a Jodo last year.
Okay.
So
then you're talking about going ahead and taking the 5% off of those and give it to them,
but that only helps with $2,000 or something.
That's why the other items in the agreement, the $33,000 agreement, will assist in moving forward.
And they're not all operating costs, so they'll assist with the plan.
And so that's where we're coming, asking for the agreement to be approved.
Charlotte, I'm confused because it says here operating expense fund budget, so that's under
33,000 so is that not all operating cost.
I mean the agreement,
page two of the agreement says operating expense funds budget 33,300.
So, and I'm not entirely sure why it was labeled that, but it's, you've got privacy administrative
process, part of the HUD compliance consultants, the CPA financial oversight, because there
are ways to help protect the city's money that they've gone out and done research and
talked to OFA and HUD and all that, and then there's architecture and structural engineer
in the survey.
Okay.
I know my question.
Is there a way to award this money to the Chodo the 42,000 that's about to expire without
using it on this project that's been presented because I don't think the Council sold on the project.
I don't think there is.
What do you expect the decline in future grants for this purpose to be if we do not use it?
I'm not sure off the top of my head, sir. We'd have to do some research and figure out what head would say for that.
So we'd have to do some digging on that, but we can get that information for you.
I don't know that we have time.
Is this property under contract?
Is the property under contract?
Yes. But the everything that, like the Ernest Dominion stuff was donated, so we're okay.
I'm not sure what that means. That means they can't, the contract won't expire before you have to do something. What does that mean?
Well, the original plan was hopefully to come back to you and propose the entire proposal,
but we didn't have the full amount to get all of this stuff done.
So we did have a contract on the property, everything that goes into that, like getting the
abstract up to date, and the earnest money was paid by donations.
So even if we don't follow through without agreement to purchase that exact property, we
We can still use the conceptual design that we're having developed on any property.
The only thing additional is that we have to add a parking lot in a new slab.
All right.
Thank you.
Just shut up.
Can we award this 42,000 to 42,000 reimbursement for the remodel they just completed?
I'm not entirely sure if we can't in the line.
Okay.
What if we make a motion contingent upon legal approval to award up to 42,000 to reimbursed
them for the remodel they just completed and other capital costs like the new washing machine?
For instance,
that way we would pay for what's already done theoretically, Kristen,
and you're looking at me, do you think I'm legal?
No, no, you don't think I'm legal, is that what you said?
My question operationally, Kristen, in the case,
we need a supported agreement.
We won't have a supported agreement in place.
That's another issue by the end of the week.
There's no way, you're saying that we can't
administratively accommodate this by the end of the week.
Okay.
The council is going to have to approve the support agreement, I think, and we won't have
time to do that.
Mayor, if I may, I was just visiting with housing staff and because the existing family
promise is considered a PSO, even though the organization is considered a Choto, the existing
structure is a PSO, and so they would only qualify for CDVG funding at that location.
Now, the agreement talks about finding either finding and building or finding existing
five houses. And so we could move forward with the 42,000 for that piece and not specifically
tie it back to 1308. Where they could go out and put it personally.
most in that original explanation of what your staff told you.
Okay. So the existing building, the existing family promise building on 17th Street is covered under the public service organization side of it.
And because it's a PSO, you cannot use it as a...
Yeah, we cannot use the home funding for it. It's only, we could only use the CDBG, and this comes out of our home funding.
But the agreement does allow us and allows family promise to go out and look for five
family and five houses that they could turn into their Choto program and then we wouldn't
tie it directly back to 1308.
Sean, how will that be spent by the end of the week?
Yeah, it's not going to happen.
I think the reality of the situation is, Randy, I'm not cutting you all family.
I think the reality of the situation is, this has just been too last minute, to head towards
those funds that are inspiring.
And it's got us in a situation where we're in a no-want situation.
We're not going to be able to award it, get the contract complete and disperse the funds in three
days, and we just have to accept it, and do a better job of planning going forward.
So
I may speak real quick.
Actually, it depends on when we date the contracts.
I can get the operational costs like turn and receipts for it
and be re-re-re-re-to-line, yes.
I don't think that's sent in the Council's interest
to date.
I'm afraid that I just don't see, I'm open to somebody else's
guidance, staff guidance, or elected official guidance, if we could figure out a way to do it
and not tie it to what I'm going to call that albatross building, I mean, I think actually
the money would be better spent, and I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I don't think we have time to do it yet.
I can't meet the last minute time table.
Can I?
Let me go.
If I may, I just want to make sure I have
understanding one more time.
Can you tell me again, how does this affect the future
grants if we don't, if we don't send it?
So if we, if the money goes back,
we, our home funds, will decrease next year
because we've had to recent the Choto funding back.
Do we have any idea as to how much it would decrease by or not at this time?
I have to do some research into what their requirements are going to be.
We never know, we never know our numbers until usually may.
So we just got the grant information officially this week for this fiscal year.
I would add, because the city attorney brought up the support agreements, we do, it's not
uncommon for support agreement to, like, there's still authorities as of right now that
don't have approved support agreements.
So there is, we do operate with some degree of uncertainty sometimes, and we operate how we
the prior fiscal year to make sure that we're not out of compliance, but a supportive
agreement signed sealed into liverhood is not something that we've always done before.
So I will say that that is another context that has not been necessarily an obstacle.
I think with supportive agreements, we do have them for most of the authorities or the
like LEDC, lead, LEDA, that we give money to.
What's bothering me about this is over the last few years,
we've had to give back, I want to say $700,000 to head.
And that's something the Council has to consider
when they're deciding this, and this is very last minute.
Mr. Wigger, you have any input?
You know, anything that stands out in my mind is right now,
my conscience is telling me do nothing in haste.
I'm afraid I would probably make a motion to deny.
We have a motion to deny on the table.
Is there a second?
There is a second.
Discussion.
Please vote.
If you're abstaining, Councilman Williams, you need to say, why?
I have a family member who works there
and there would be a personal interest,
so therefore I'm abstaining.
So according to City Charter.
Okay. You can abstain.
Have you got all the votes in?
I do, but I have a question probably for them.
So I have four guests to deny votes, which is not the majority.
So what is the correct?
So you have four in favor and then you have four to deny and how many to not deny.
two and one extension. That's a majority in both of the deny passes.
Okay, deny passes.
Item number 25, hold the public hearing and consider
approving amendment to the annual action plan for our FFY 2025 and authorizing
the mayor and sitting clerk to execute the revised SF424IS and grant funding
agreements for CDBG and home, along with any other documents necessary to implement plan
document.
Good evening again.
So this is an amendment to an annual action plan.
This is something that we told Council.
We were going to bring back when we did the original amendment plan back in June.
This is to add money to our project list for the homeless transportation program.
We have it set at $10,000, but I believe there's going to be a request to raise it to
15.
And then this will also add in the group in planning agreements for help with our PSO metrics,
for contract to up to $100,000.
Can somebody tell me how much we spent the day since we started last November, I think it
was?
I would say approximately $20,000.
Okay, why are we amended this at 10 and if I'm limited to a $5,000 floor amendment, why don't we just go back and change this to 25?
Because I have an idea, I'm going to tell you, everybody I talk to tells me they're seeing new faces on the homeless that are on the street,
that we're getting an influx of homeless and I don't see this going down plus I'm a very
much a supporter of it because this transportation project gets people to their families
where they can be successful. So as my only option of floor amendment or if we spend it can we
amend it again or do we just need to go back and amend it one time for a larger amount.
We can amend it one time for a larger amount.
We do currently have some money set aside for the program.
Earlier this year I allocated $10,000 for manager contingency funds which were currently
using so this amount would be a supplement to that.
So that would get us close to the figure that you want to be at.
Well I thought the goal was to tap into federal funds and not use our local funds.
It is certainly my goal, but it would delay us, it would delay us.
How long would it delay us?
We would have to do another 30-day public notice period.
Okay, I think that's worth going to 25, and I might suggest 30.
I've got a hold of public hearing.
At this time I'll open the public hearing.
Anybody wishing to speak on this item of CBBG and home modification?
Please come forward.
saying none, I closed the public care and Council can I get a motion
direct and staff to redo this raising the amount to $30,000.
That's motion to hear a second.
Now, what did you say, darling?
Yes, ma'am.
The 10,000 that we have right now we could go ahead and use that and then get the 30 day notice out
and do an additional 15.
and instead of waiting for it to go back out for another 30 days we have.
Is there any problem with doing two amendments?
Are you okay with that?
Okay, you mentioned the motion to accept and direct to an ending end.
For a total of 30.
Okay, who is the second?
Okay, are you okay with that motion then?
And you're okay with that second discussion.
Please vote.
Thank you.
Motion carries seven to zero.
Bringing that item 26.
Hold a peppy.
Public hearing consider approving the amendment to the consolidated action plan for FY 2021.
through 2025 and authorized in the Maryland City Clerk to execute the revised SSF 424S and
grant funding agreements for CDBG along with any other documents necessary to implement the plan amendment.
Charlotte. Sounds like the same. It is. Yes.
This is just for our five-year consolidated plan, and just for the record, that was Christie Dement. She works in our housing department area.
Has she got a live log, you know?
Do you have an I live one, then? No.
That's right.
So yes, so this is a companion item.
And after you vote, I would like to introduce our new housing and community development administrator, so that everyone can do it.
Okay, at first I've got to open a public hearing and so I'm an open it, anybody
which to speak on this side of please come forward.
Seeing none, I will close the public hearing, Council can have much approval,
much
approval and a second discussion, please vote.
Motion carries seven to zero.
Okay, now we're going to jump to the other items concerning homeless, and we're going to
I'm 42.
Mayor.
Yes.
Can I help you?
Yes.
I'm sorry.
So as most of you are aware, Gary Brooks left us back into lies.
So Robert Burns is our new housing and community development administrator.
He came to us from the planning department.
He's been in the role about a month now.
And he is learning something new every day.
All right.
I gave a two.
So she'll share one over to him.
So yes, if you have anything, you can reach out to me, but we also have Robert that's available
for questions as well.
All right, great.
And you're getting all up to speed on all the rules, there's a lot, aren't they?
Anything with the federal government works that way.
All right, I'm going to be praying for you.
Thank you.
You again, I love Lotton, Ben.
All right.
Okay.
And now we're going to go to Item 42 to discuss artificial intelligence and CDBG homelessness
reduction plan for a lot in residents and take action as deemed necessary.
Council, I put this on here.
We actually discussed it in a, and I'm going to assume that you've all read it.
We discussed it in a homeless action committee.
The council member, we didn't take action on it, but the council members that are the voting members of the committee
seem to be very supportive of the general idea of it.
It has a few components what does break down and make recommendations how you spend the money
to me.
The key component is involved where we basically ask artificial intelligence, chatGPT, how do we build
homeless action plan using our CDB-GN home funds without attracting more homeless.
Now, the reason for that is, every community I know of that's come up with the homeless
action plan has increased their homelessness and in a discussion with Captain Brinley of the
Salvation Army, you know, he said, if you build a thousand-bed shelter, you're going to
you're going to attract more than a thousand. Whatever your building and supplying will not be enough,
and you increase it, you're going to attract more people. Now I'm going to tell you,
When we did the no-camping on municipal ordinance, there was a little bit of a law, but then when we started to deal with salvation Army, the images, even though we only had to 50 people, the image is that we've got something for homeless, and I think everybody I talked to says they're seeing more and more.
And new faces.
And we know that we had four dropped off from Tulsa last week.
Now, that doesn't mean that was all that was dropped off.
We just know it for, because they showed up at the Salvation Army.
And the other, so idea number one, is only allow your CDBG and home fans
when you award them to these different organizations,
with their Chodos or Public Service Organizations or whatever.
You only allow that money to be used on people that have a connection to
Lawton.
Whether they went to school here, have a previous address here, or family here
we have to decide that.
One of the things on there was a registration about I wouldn't
want to do that because anybody can go down register that.
The other key component is don't add to your shelter space.
If you add to the shelter space, you're going to attract people, just like Captain Brenley said,
whatever you build isn't going to be enough.
I'm not interested in that.
I'm not talking to people that are interested in attracting homeless.
Now, I need a little input, and what I'm looking for here is this the way you guys want to go.
And you give me guidance, and we will be
amending our homosexual plan, Ms. Williams.
I'm going to comment on just, I was talking to
one of my constituents today.
And I was, I'm saying exactly what the constituents
said to me.
She said, I woke up early in the morning.
She worked for a lot of public schools. She drive me
the bus, school bus, and she said, there are still it coming out of my door, and she
said, there's still a gentleman with his pants down, pooping and urinating in the middle of
the road. She said, it's terrible when I do not feel safe in my own neighborhood. I was
yesterday go to some of my areas. There are spotted homeless persons squadling in a vacant
home and destroying a house, owners home.
Now we've had the dilapidated in D&D where people
houses are going to D&D lists. And what I tell the citizens I've come to for a council and
said, this is what some of us say it. My home has been been destroyed by some of the homeless
individuals. So to me, the homeless situation has got matter control. It's causing some
people to homes that they work there and have maintained their entire lives to try to keep
property, that we have some homeless individuals who are going in these vacant homes
and destroying the homes, so there's something that has to be done.
This has to cease, I don't want to see the taxpayers' money being wasted,
they need
to get a job and work like everybody else worked.
My friend's job, I was six years old, I was born new as papers.
I was one of some money, guess what, I have some money.
Because you know what I was instilled in me.
My grandmother, she was a good example.
She was entrepreneurs, so there you are, watching my grandmother.
So some people have enough to go give a job.
But like I say, if this homeless situation to me,
it's got not a control.
Okay, so I want to apologize to you.
I called on you before I let citizens that signed us, so I apologize that I did that.
And I'm going to let other Council members speak.
I'm going to read this statement, they kept them friendly, sent me, and then I'm going to
call on two citizens that signed up.
This is statement from Captain Brian Brenley, Salvation Army Lawton Corps Officer.
I was recently asked whether there's a correlation between the increase in community resources
and the attraction of those who are in need. The answer is obvious. Yes, there's a direct
correlation. Anyone with experience at distributing community resources, whether food, utilities,
rent assistance, clothing, household goods, or other government handouts understands this reality.
Those of us who provide these resources and hopes of changing lives are constantly faced with the challenge of dealing with those who are looking for long-term sustainability.
The balance between offering help and creating long-term generational dependence has always been a tension in this country.
is hand out to increase so to the administration cause, leaving less time, energy and capacity
for the transformational work, thus leading to a sustainability service, handed out
move on to the next person, managing resource distribution responsibly as a central if we
want to promote real change. The Salvation Army wants to be known as a change ministry,
not a sustaining ministry.
Lawton must not become known as a sustaining community.
We must be strategic and honest about the amount of resources
in the impact we are having.
Otherwise, we risk having a reputation for attracting dependency
instead of being known as a community of opportunity.
And with that, I want to remind everybody,
Council an audience. It is not the city of Lotton's responsibility. It is not a municipal
function to house people. That is not our function. Our function is primarily public safety.
Now with that I'm going to call on David Reeves to come up who signed up to speak on this. Jerry
Mr. Mr. Reeves. Okay. And I've already got your address this year, so David, you got three minutes.
There we go. In the interest of transparency, I think would be I would like to suggest that the prompt data which
align to the formation of this document be entered in the public record for the benefit of those
invested in this technology,
and I would also just like to caution that when it comes
to legal citations, a generative AI and large language models have a pretty bad record
right now with over 100 cases being affected by misattributions or fictitious citations.
in court filing over the last two years, the most recent and largest monetary sanction applied
for that sort of mistake is $10,000 earlier this month in the district of California.
And that's it. So thank you very much.
Okay, thank you, and I just want to reassure everybody.
everything we do, I, I, I, is not the end result. Our legal department is the end result
before we move forward with anything. And they haven't always agreed with our official
intelligence. So, but thank you for coming. Jerry, you want to come on that?
Thank you. I want to elaborate on a council person, Williams,
just talking about, as a citizen, I'm really concerned about it because it's put such a
on our community.
It's put a strain on our charitable agencies, particularly our churches,
and it's really called the financial strain on them. The hopelessness has had an effect
on our hospital too. They're just flooded, especially on weekends, and they can't even house
of them in the rooms that they have,
puts a car, it causes a real concern with citizens
when they go shopping,
I've heard of all the females talk about the fact that they're
scared to walk from the store to the car, and because they always hit up by the homeless,
The fifths in our, and the shoplifting in our stores is causing a tremendous increase in prices that we all have to pay.
Stores can't do much about it because they don't have the personnel to, well, one they have a legal concern about it, and they don't have the personnel to file the report and go to court.
And so what they do is just mark up the price to cover the losses.
Another thing is shopping carts, you see all over town, those run about $233 a piece,
and they're having a mark up merchandise to cover that as well.
The homeless hit our abandoned houses, causing fires and that's costing a lot for not only landowner, but for our city and our budgets.
Anyway, I was just wanting to express the concern that we all have a citizen.
And so I'm looking forward to any kind of progress we can make towards addressing this.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you for coming.
Okay, Council.
Once again, this is about really two things to me.
One is do we want to put into our homosexual plan that our CDBG and homophans go for individuals
with a connection to lawton. And do we want to put into our CDBG home plan that while we
invest to improve shelter space, we do not expand the shelter space at this time. And that's
what I need to know from you guys. Any other comment you want on this? I think everybody knows.
But we cannot handle all the homeless that we're attracted.
We do not have enough federal funds.
We don't have enough local funds.
And we ask a question, how do we need to determine whether or not they have a connection to
a lot?
Because a lot of homeless they don't have identification, so how do you determine?
Well, we have organizations that help them get their ID and until then, no money is spent
on them.
But the Catholic charity sells people get their ID, and I don't think they're the only
So until, until they can shut that, they're not, the organizations can still serve on.
They just can't use our CDBG and open.
Okay?
Line did you have a question?
Yeah.
Isn't the objective to decrease the number of homeless, okay?
Correct?
And then what's the best steps that we can take as a city, as a city, to make it not a
great place for them to come or to even leave?
I think it's a bus tickets are now standing way to do it.
I don't know who came up with that idea, but it's a great idea, but still and all, who
might want what the fellow said,
what the charity had, the question is, if you build more
the young they'll come. That sounds like an old movie, but it's true. More you hand it out,
hand it out, the longer the more people will come up and ask for it.
So I can answer to your question. I do think these are two components that we need to
have to our toolbox to only use our funds for citizens that have a connection, which will
find by the time we bring this back for approval. And of course, the Council can make
four minutes, but I don't like the way we present the definition. And that we have a policy
that we do not add to our shelter space with our CDBGNO. Somebody's still free to build it,
but there wouldn't be allowed to use our CDBGNO funds.
So while I don't think it's there,
everything. I also think the next agenda item is important because it is an ordinance that
will require anybody that is camping in the city limits to have the written permission
of the property owner. Right now the situation we have is people trespass on to property
and our law enforcement can't do anything about it until they find the owner which is many
times out of town, get a trespassing form sign, which is only good for one year, and it
will cut that down where the police are able to address it immediately and help protect
public safety and property rights and why public safety, because everywhere you sit as
tents, they're not far from children, and we've got to provide safe and clean neighborhoods.
So I hope I answered your question.
I know a way and think, this is the total answer, OK?
Mr. Eps,
may I appreciate that?
How you just explained that?
And I think that I've got a couple of thoughts, three in particular.
One, I do support this.
Two, it sounds like we're beating up the homeless.
And what I would say is that that's not the case.
I think that everybody has a role to play in this very complex in troubling situation.
And what I mean by everybody is, you know, the mayor laid out very clearly,
the role and the responsibility of the city, right, which is public safety.
And so we look at this, I think, through the lens of public safety and how do we, you know,
how do we ensure that we're doing that to the best of our capability?
The second piece, too, it is, there is an effort, there is an ongoing effort through our
local nonprofits on how, you know, how do we get them to collaborate together?
That's an ongoing thing.
So, you know, I say to the citizens, don't think that it's not being addressed, it's just that everyone has to kind of fulfill their roles as we address this extremely complex problem because it's not a cut and drive issue.
But
I can't just men, I just remembered this slide.
The City Manager was in a breakout session or a class in Oklahoma City
about homelessness and the lady that we have hired to write our next
five-year plan for CDBG in home.
Dr. AJ Griffin is a Griffin or Griffin.
of it. Put this up and John took a picture and sent it to me and you can see that public
policy is the hardest thing away from what's going to help restore somebody. Now we're
using public policy buying bus tickets to get people closer to their family to affect the
circle. So the community has a job, and the city has a job, and the city's job's public
safety, and the community's jobs are restoring lives or whatever the community wants
it to be. Then you've got the schools and organizations, and then the closed family network
down to the individual, and so I wanted you to see this that it's important that we get people
close back to their home, and because the family they've adopted on the street is not going
to do an intervention. Okay? It's not going to happen, but it's also important to note there
are three other layers before you get to public policy of people that can have it. We're not
I'm going to solve the state for the country's problems by attracting more homeless here.
Now with that, I'll open it back up and comment, Mr. Gill.
We're speaking about, on 1942, spending the CDBG money only for people that have some sort
of a tiny lot, and then you had another comment.
No, no adding, no using CDBG or home.
no using CDBG or home funds to add shelter capacity, in other words it could be used for improvement, but not adding capacity.
Yeah, I was wanting to make a motion, so could make this.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, I'll go ahead.
You can talk after a motion's made, too, but go ahead.
I was just going to start them.
Thank you, Mayor.
It's not a big deal.
I put a lot of time in Africa.
This issue is not a isolated issue.
Everybody this country is dealing with this.
Here in law, and we have taken a different approach, I think, as I see it, I put down a lot
of houses in more and five because of this homeless problem.
A lot of fires and a lot of danger.
We just tore down a little homeless community that there were 20 people in or something.
One of the ladies had is getting a military, she's getting $3,500 a month, but she wants
to live in this kind of situation.
They talk about high-bearing a little barrier, and I'm trying to, probably not, is intelligent
and some of them, and so I break it down more this way.
You know, there's people that are in poverty over at the Patterson Center, we used to feed
over there.
And there were people that had vehicles, had houses, and everything, but they didn't have
anything to eat.
And they would come and have food, and they would tell me that that was the only meal that
they were going to have that day.
Those people are in poverty.
They're not really homeless, but it seems like lately we've been to those people in
our homeless community. You know, those are not the people that are going in stealing things
and committing crimes and breaking into houses. It is those people that are chronically
homeless. Those people that you see on the street that everybody's complaining about. And
those are the people that I think that we're dealing with. In War 5 I've been working with
salvation army specifically,
because the theft, all of the just blatant, unsafe things
that that community of people are bringing to my ward is just astronomical. I have dealt
with all of them, and it seems that I agree with the mayor that we don't need to make
more places for the homeless to stay, because these people don't even know how to be responsible
to take care of a house, to pay their bills, and to take care of those things.
These people have mill problems, drug problems, alcohol problems.
Those are the people that are causing the problem in our community, and those people that
are helping with poverty, helping people that have made bad decisions that need to get back
to responsible lifestyles, they have children, they have other things.
Those are not the people that I believe that we as council people have to deal with
because they're not the ones that are out there breaking the laws.
I call those homeless people in my country, my ward, my constituents because they live in
my ward and I have to deal with them because they have to live alongside of all the other
people in my ward that are constantly dealing with that.
The answer is not like some of the communities and I agree with the mayor that you build more places for them.
We had a presentation of one of the people in our community that were allowing these type of homeless people to rent houses.
They showed us pictures of the houses where they had to evict them because they were not paying their bills and they were not being responsible.
That is not the answer to build houses for them.
The answer is to get them some type of help to help them bring their lives back together
to the work.
They could be responsible human beings that can pay their bills, that can bathe themselves,
that can interact with the rest of us in our community.
If they live in our community, they have to follow the same rules that we live by.
Or else we're not going to be a community, or else we live the way they live.
It just is not going to work because it's polarized.
They're breaking the law of a business in town, $20,000 in one year they lost.
They were letting people take merchandise, pick it up and walk out the store, watch them, walk out the store.
And some of us kind of try to help them and get help them with that problem.
And one of the things that we're trying to do with the Salvation Army is to try to get them
back to their families, get them back to their support system, but also get them into resources
like mental health and drug and alcohol.
The Salvation Army has resources like that, that we are replacing people.
Those people go to that tent city, and at a certain point, I think it's like seven days or
something.
They have to make a decision if they're going to go somewhere to get help.
And there are resources that we are building over in that section.
Is it going to cure the problem?
No, not totally, but it is getting people help, getting them.
He places them outside of the lot of community so that they're not around their core group
that's enabling them to do the things that they're doing and that's to be dependent on drugs and alcohol.
We have to begin to spend money in our community to try to help these people regain their life back because they have no life.
And I think the mayor's correct, Mayor, you have said that, and really, and I haven't really
and I've talked about this, you build more resources than you're going to call more people
to come here.
Do we want to stop people to come here because of the mere fact that they're homeless and
they're causing problems?
That's a part of it, a small part of it.
The big part of it is we need to have the resources to then take care of them when they come,
which we're barely having the resources now to take care of the ones that are here.
So, I think as you look at this homeless problem, personally yourself, you need to think...
You can people that are in poverty and you need to think of people that have went past poverty and now are chronically
homeless and can't even help themselves. This year, quickly, we were called together the mayor and
on the city manager, police chief. We all went to a business and talked to some business people that
were having problems. And those people were having problems like the homeless would stop their
Problems that most people don't even hear about, we have answers, it is no doubt that we
have answers and we have meetings with different people in town to try to deal with this problem.
But I agree with the mayor that we can't use our funding to build more places for homeless
until we have a plan to be able to help those that we have.
Like I said, not to get them out, but to help them to be responsible.
You see a person walking out of the street in the middle of the street, like they want to
get hit.
That person's got some problems.
Do we need to help them, yes, we do, and we need to find a place to help them.
I got you, Mayor.
This is just a real passionate thing for me, because I really, really, really had to really
dig deep to try to deal with this and just real quickly.
I have one of my neighborhood services group that is putting together a non-profit organization
in one of my areas to try to see what they can do to have more houses built back into
their community because of the amount of houses that we've tore down because they burnt.
Thank you, Mayor.
I have a motion.
I have a motion that to see the Beijing Funds be connected for citizens that has a connection
to allow you and do not add our shelter-based with CDBG funds for the safety of the citizens.
And update the kids' first homeless action plan?
Okay, he's going to second it.
Okay.
Discussion?
Thank goodness.
Please vote.
Motion carries seven to zero, bringing up item 43.
Council, I want to tell you this is about the same discussion I'm going to read it, but the
faster you pass this, the faster we take a break. Consider proving an ordinance, creating
section 1632 and Article 163, Chapter 16, Law Institute, 2015, and creating section 1632201,
16322223, 163223, 163224, 163225, 163226, 163227, and said division for the purpose
of protecting public health safety and welfare by prohibiting unauthorized camping, providing for
the removal of unintended personal property, defining certain terms, providing for enforcement
and penalties regulated in the storage of certain personal property recovered from public property
within city limits. Providing for an administrative appeal process for property removal,
providing for exceptions, providing for coordination with social services,
repealing and reserving section 1631-326 of division 1631 article 163, chapter 16,
in London City Code 2015, providing for several building codifying and declaring emergency
mayor.
Mr. Guil.
I move to approve the ordinance, wait the reading of the ordinance, read the title only.
Discussion.
Please vote.
I'll read the title.
Yeah.
And Mayor, this will also have to vote on the emergency.
So, be to vote.
And ordinance pertaining to offenses and crimes, creating division 16-3-2.
in Article 16-3, Chapter 16, Lawton City Code 2015, Creating Section 163221, 163222,
163223, 163224, 163225, 163226 and 163227, Inside Division for the purpose of protecting
public health safety and welfare by prohibiting unauthorized camping, providing for the removal
of unattended personal property, defining certain terms, providing for enforcement and
penalties, regulating the storage of certain personal property recovered from public property
within city limits, providing for administrative appeal process for property removal, providing
for exceptions providing for coordination with social services, for appealing and
preserving section 1631326 in Division 1631, Article 163, Chapter 16, Law and
City Code 2015, providing for severability,
convocation, declaring emergency.
Please, Mayor, you want to make a motion to declare emergency safety.
We got to take two votes.
Okay.
Sorry.
Please make a motion so we can roll right into it.
We have a motion to declare emergency on the item we're voting on.
There is a second.
We'll vote in a minute.
Motion carries.
Now we, let's vote on the emergency.
Mayor, it's not showing, but that passed seven to zero.
Pass seven to zero, but it's not wanting to pull up.
Okay, okay, the emergency motion passes seven to zero.
We're going to take a 10-minute break.
That is eight, 24, Council.
Eight, 24.
First of all, please take your seat,
member 27. And no one ends up mending personnel policy. You know, before I start
raising these council, these are all pretty much just kind of housekeeping. I didn't see anything in any other. So since we want to get out here before 11, maybe if it's not important, we don't say it.
And the ordinance of Manning Personal Pulse is in Procedures section 1713127, Division 17133, Article
1711, Chapter 17, Law in City Code 2015, by clarifying the amount of time and employment
given before separation from employment, to be eligible for rehire, removing language that
allowed, to be taken during the notice of separation of separation time frame provided
for sub-building and established and effective day Craig.
This section specifically just changed the time of a notice of separation to 30 calendar
days for executive employees and 14 calendar days instead of two weeks for general employees.
And it also took out the verbiage that said that an employee could take leave time to satisfy
that notice of separation.
Now, they will not be able to take lead during that time.
Mr. Gill.
Mr. Mayor, I may move to approve of the ordinance.
Wait the reading of the ordinance.
Read the title only.
We have a second, please read the title.
In order to amend personal policy and procedures, section 17,
1, 3, 1, 2, 7, division 17, 1, 3, article 17, 1, chapter 17,
throughout the city code 2015 by clarifying the amount of time an employee must give before
separation from employment to be eligible for rehire, removing language that allowed
leave to be taken during the notice of separation time frame, providing for
severability and establishing effective date.
Please,
Matt.
Thank you.
demanding personnel policies and procedures.
Section 1714440, Division 1714, Article 171, Chapter 171,
Chapter 171, Lawton City, Code 2015 by Mending the Notice Time
at General Employee's Yelper Vide Prior to Separation from Service.
Badding there if an employee submits a notice of separation
for a specific date, management may shorten the time
for the good of the service, renundering the section of code
to correspond to the numbering where it belongs,
providing perceivability and establishing at effective date.
This is another section of code that reference two weeks,
notice a separation for general employees.
So we once again had to change this to 14 calendar days,
an executive level employees to 30 calendar days.
We also added that if an employee gives their 30 day or 14 day notice
that the manager has the option of accepting that resignation immediately, and employment will
cease, and that's for good of the service, whatever he, there's people that may work here
that's in very sensitive positions, and that just gives the manager the authority.
Mr. Keele, Mr. Barr, I move you to approve the ordinance, play the reading of the ordinance,
read the title only.
Please read the title.
In order to amend personal policy and procedures, Section 1714440, Division 1714, Article 1711,
Chapter 1711 City Code 2015, by amending the notice time, a general employee shall provide
prior to separation from service by adding that if an employee submits a notice of separation
for a specific date, management may shorten the time for the good of the service, renembring
this section of code to correspond with the number, where it belongs, providing first
severability and establishing effective date.
Please vote,
wow, seven of Zebra, my wow, by the way, was how fast it was.
And ordinance amending personal policy is in item 29, and ordinance amending personal policies
and procedures section 17161667, division 17166 article 1717, one chapter 17,
According to the State of Maine, lock City Code 2015 by correcting code to reference general
employee-instead of Executive Employee as it pertains to the Play Plan for a bout of
a set of billet and establish a failure date.
Give us the Readers Digests.
This was an air-incode referencing the wrong paid plan.
And we fixed that.
Mr. Guillard.
I move to approve the ordinance for the reading of the ordinance.
Read the title only.
Please read the title.
Well, in order to amend personal policy and procedure section 1713167 Division 1713 article 17171 chapter 17 lot in city code 2015 by correcting code to reference general employee instead of executive employee as it pertains to the pay plan providing preserverability and establishing effective date.
Please vote.
7 to 0.
Adam 30, an ordinance of pending personal policies and procedures.
7, section 17, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 60, 3.
Division 17, 1, 6 article 17, 1, chapter 17.
Lot city code 2015 by clarifying code
and the meaning of immediately prior to separation
of city employment.
Excuse me, adding a pair of graphs,
to stimulate in the forefurture of unused sick leave.
If proper notice was not given,
renumbering of specific paragraphs
due to the addition provided for self-building
and establish effective day, Craig.
This just put a definition of what
immediately prior to separation from city employment
and that is now the notice and separation time.
Also sick leave, it specifies that sick leave
is not authorized during the notice and separation time.
However, the manager can wait that due to a serious medical condition and it mostly added
that if an employee fails to give the proper notice of separation notice that they
forfeit any accrued sick leave not counting historical sick leave that they had on the
books.
Mr. Mayor, may I move to approve the ordinance?
Wait, the read in the ordinance read the title only.
Please read the title.
In order to submitting personal policy procedures, section 17, 1, 6, 1, 6, 3, Division 17,
1, 6, Article 17, 1, Chapter 17, Lawton City Code 2015 by clarifying code and the meaning
of immediately prior to separation from city employment, adding a paragraph stipulating
the forefiture of unused sick leave if proper notice was not given, renumbering the specific
to the edition, providing for several building and establishing an effective date.
Please, by
7 to 0, item 31, an ordinance of pending personnel policies and procedures section
17171773, division 171717 article 1717, one chapter 17, lots of city code.
2015 by a pending code to say that a witness will be present at a for employee
of warning, written warning, or written reprimand.
Specifying the timeframe in which an employee's suspension must start,
amending the process that must be followed to discipline an employee with either suspension,
emotion, or termination, adding a section pertaining to merit-step increases after being suspended,
or demoted, provided for sub-build-in established effective day.
Craig, this is just changing the procedures on warnings
Reform,
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2015 by a Community code to say that a witness will be President if An Employee is disciplecriptica
решant Many a written person to repeat farmers up. Specifying
Timefangon whichemployees andclipse The process
should be followed to Displinm and Employee with either suspension,
and pertaining to merit-step increases after being suspended or demoted, providing for
severability and establishing an effective date.
Please vote
as 7 to 0. I am 32, and noronites amending personnel policies and procedures
section 17, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 7, 1, 7, 1, 7, 1, 7, 1, 6, 1, 7, 1, 17,
1,
them drug screen or a four-cost drug screen whose results are reported as positive will be placed
on a ministry leave without pay pending a meeting and will remain on said leave pending
any disflaring action that may be taken provided for said building established if they
today.
This just clarifies code now that if an employee has a positive drug test reported at us, they
We'll be placed on a administrative leave without pay until such time that the case is finished.
Mr. Mr. Mayor, I moved to approve the ordinance.
Wait, the reading of the ordinance.
Read the time lonely.
Please read the title.
In order to amend personal policy and procedures, section 17161668, Division 1716, Article 1717,
one chapter 17, Lawton City Code 2015, by mending codes to say that employee that submits
to a random drug screen or a forecaused drug screen whose results are reported as positive
will be placed on a administrative leave without pay, pending a meeting and will remain
on said leave, pending any disciplinary action that may be taken, providing for severability
and establishing an effective date.
Place that.
I'll just carry Senator Zira.
Okay, now we're going to come on to some here that have to do with likes and recreation
I want to clarify, these all have been through the Lakes and Lakes Commission and have been recommended for passages.
Is that right?
We're going to, we want readers to digest version.
Consider approving an ordinance pertaining to recreation and mending section 193302 article 193 chapter 19 of the Law
in City Code 2015, relating to fishing permits required by changing the age requiring
a permit to fish.
Lawton Lakes, Ellsworth, and Looktonka from 16-18, providing preserve building and establishing
an effective date, Kelvin.
Yes, sir.
Mayor, Councilman of Women on the City Manager, but this policy does do as it puts us
in line with the state Oklahoma Department of Wildlife, so this is just puts us in line
with that.
Thank you.
Mr. Mayor, move to approve the ordinance.
the reading of the ordinance read the title only. Please read the title.
The ordinance pertaining to recreation and meeting section 1933-02 article 193 chapter 19
lot in city code 2015 relating to fishing permits required by changing the age requiring
a permit to fish, lot in lakes, else worth and we'll talk from 16 to 18 providing for
the stability and establishing an effective date.
Please vote.
7-0, bringing up item 34, consider a proven and an ordinance
pertain to recreation,
Mending Section 1922.
117 article 192, chapter 19 of the Lawton City Code 2015, relating to water sports, boating license
expiration to the end of the calendar year, provided for safety building and establishing
effective day. Jim, the current code has a boat license expiration date from the date of purchase,
which makes it difficult for law enforcement to determine by looking at the boat. If they've
a 25 sticker what month they purchased and this reverts it back to calendar year so a 25
sticker is good until December 31. Thank you Mr. Mayor move to approve of the ordinance
way. The ready to have the ordinance read the title only. Please read the title.
In order to pertain to recreation amending section 192 to 07 article 192 chapter 19
lot in city code 2015 relating to water sports and voting by changing vote license expiration
into the end of the calendar year, providing
perceivability and establishing an effective date.
Please vote.
Mr. Kerry, seven to zero, bring out item 35.
The ordinance pertained to recreation in the section
in 1966, Article 96, Chapter 19,
Lot City Code 2015, relating to golf carts
and land recreation vehicles permitting
by changing golf cart, land recreational vehicle,
Permette expressed to the end of the calendar year,
restricting golf card access on the road,
serving the ponds, providing for our server building,
and establishing an effective day.
This is the same as the boat permit.
The golf cart permit would revert back to calendar year.
So drive by them with five officers
with City of the calendar year.
The second part restricting golf carts
across the ponds is our tent camping area
with gravel roads.
There's really no purpose for golf carts to be.
in that area, they don't bring their golf carts with them, and the last part, guess what's
it the only thing?
Mr. Mayor, I'm going to prove the ordinance way, the reading, the ordinance way, the
title only.
Please read the title.
In order to be pertaining to recreation, amending section, 1966-06, Article 1966, chapter 19,
Lawton City Code 2015, relating to golf carts and land recreational vehicles, permitting
by changing golf cart land recreational vehicle permit exploration to the end of the calendar year,
restricting golf cart access on the road serving the Ponds,
providing for severability and establishing an effective date. Please vote.
As you carry seven to zero, bringing up item 36, consider a proven and an ordinance
Modifying the Title T article, 20-2, Modifying Section 222-2-2-227-229-2210-2212 and
creating Section 222-12.1 article, 20-2, Chapter 20, lot of City Code 2015, pertaining
to excavating and or boring within street, right of ways, or public easements, including
paving kits, requiring a paving kit, excavation, boring permit for such work, provide
percepability and codification.
Yes, this ordinance is in reflection from the five companies, and this code will require anyone
who boars in the street right of way or easement to obtain a permit, so we can keep record
of those activities.
Mr. Mayor, this is a very good ordinance. I'm going to put the ordinance away, the
ordinance and the title only. Please read the title.
In order to modify the title of Article 22, modifying sections 2202 through 220722922102212
to 12, including Section 22, 2012.1, Article 22, Section 20, Law and City Code 2015, pertaining to excavating and or boring within street rights of ways or public easements, including paving cuts and requiring a paving cut excavation,
borrowing format for such work, providing for severability and codification, and then the
effective date on this if passed would be 30 days after passage.
Thank you.
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information, boring permit, provide them for self-building and codification, Christy.
In order to get excavation or boring permit, that contractor would need to register with
the city so we could keep track of their insurance and again know who is in our right
way.
Mr. Mayor, another excellent ordinance, I'm moved to approve this ordinance, way to the
reading of the ordinance read the title only, please read the title.
the next six,
the win eight,
I always remember.
So, I do remember, we're just going to
the next six six, six six, 16,
six eight, 17, 17.
Boarding Contractor's registration is required to obtain a paving cut excavation,
a point for providing for survivability and the effective date would be 30 days after
passage.
Please.
Please vote.
Motion carries seven of the C.B., bringing up item 38, consider proven resolution,
amending appendix size, schedule of fees, and charges, and appendix B bond schedule.
lot in CTC 2015, pertaining to Article A22, Chapter 20, Paving Cets and Excavation, by adding
a fee for boring permits under a under or within street right of way for public easements,
establishing a fee in Article A66 pertaining to contractors registration by creating an annual
and renewal fee for such registration, and establishing a surrogly bond amount for excitation
boring contractors by creating Article B663605, Christy.
I think the title covers it.
I'm just aware, I think this is another excellent ordinance.
I'm going to approve the ordinance for the reading of the ordinance for the title only.
Please read the title.
It's not an ordnance, I don't know.
Oh, they didn't.
It's a resolution.
Resolution.
Well, same thing goes.
Right, let's vote.
Let's vote on it.
All right.
That's just a question.
Are we voting?
Motion carries seven to zero.
Bringing up item 39.
We're back to an ordinance.
Consider approving an ordinance.
Modifying section 24 to 4024403.
4403 and 24405 article 24 and rescinding figure 1 chapter 20 lot in city code 2015 by
pertaining to 2015 pertaining to revocal communication cable and pipeline permit by updating
where such permits are applied for and modifying that the revocal permit is for an indefinite
term until said Burmett has terminated or revoked, providing for severability,
Christy.
This kind of puts in line this revocal payment with other revocal permits that the city has,
Council of revocal payment, administrative revocal payments, those encroachments are a lot
to stay until we revoke that permit, so this is just changing the language to be in line
with the rest of those easier to track.
Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the ordinance, lay the read of the ordinance read the title
And in order to modify sections 24, 402, 24, 403, 24, 405, Article 24, and rescinding
figure 1, Chapter 20, Law and City Code 2015, pertain to revocable communications, cable
and pipeline permit by updating where such permits are applied for and modifying that the
revocable permit is for an indefinite term until said permit is terminated or revoked, providing
for suburbility, if passed, would take to date be 30 days after passage.
Chris, please vote. I got lost.
Motion carries seven to zero, bringing out item 40, consider proving a resolution,
amending appendix A, schedule of fees and charges, a lot in City Code 2015, pertained article
24, chapter 20, revocable communications, cable and pipeline permit.
I'm modifying that the annual fee is a use fee and not a review fee and by establishing
an inspection fee for any requested or required inspection outside of the initial construction
Christie.
I think the title of pretty much covers it here in extra questions.
Mr. Mayer, I make a motion to approve this resolution.
We have a second, we'd have a second, please vote,
motion carries seven to zero, bringing
have 41, consider suspending approvals of new fiber installation from any company that has
not submitted surveyed record as built drawings for review and approval in accordance with
their agreement permit and also consider resending any approvals for fiber installation that
is yet to be installed until such time the required surveyed record record as build drawings
have been submitted and approved.
Yeah, this would just give staff a little bit of teeth if there's a fiber company that has
not fulfilled their agreement by submitting worker drawings for their locations.
It'd be able to stop approvals or stop any new and installation until they're current
with their agreement.
Mr. May, I'm making motion too, please.
Sir, second.
Would you have a second, please,
but I'm going to carry seven to zero, bringing up item four,
just guess section seven, if Council policy 106, is it relates to committees, take action,
is deemed necessary, and may I pro-tem?
Mayor and Council, I'm going to, I'm going to read this really quick, I took all my time to
type it.
That way I won't ramble, maybe.
There's a core problem with the way that we do appointments,
because what happens is you could serve your whole first term
and not get to pick any of your appointments.
So you're actually at the mercy of your previous councilperson's
appointments.
And they end up serving under multiple different officials.
It matters because the citizens elected you,
not your predecessor.
And the whole point is that a lot of that work that we vote on here
gets taken care of in committees and authorities and in places like that.
So you're limited on what you get to vote on because of committees
and such things like that, so you should be able to appoint the people that belong on those
committees.
It also protects new council people. There's been situations where citizen groups
or citizens, the community have put pressure on new council people to try to keep an appointment
there that they didn't get an opportunity to make. It's like, you know, they, and so this will,
this will fix that, hopefully.
I've got two options. What my motion will eventually be,
is to direct staff to bring back an actual ordinance that will cover most of the items and also
policy and the ordinance portion of that is because that makes it a legally binding and gives guidance to the administration.
It ensures public input on all appointments provides a stronger legal foundation for enforcement and ensures appointment reforms have a lasting impact beyond just a single tenure.
I think it's just a good plan.
It doesn't hurt anybody, it doesn't cause a problem anywhere.
The policy portion of it, basically, would I want it to say that the city council will not receive any nominations.
Take any appointments of any appointee that has served on the same board, commission, committee authority, or any other appointed position for more than nine consecutive years without laying off for a term of three years.
In other words,
don't we consider you appointed?
Yes. Okay, so I don't like. I don't like adding or any other appointed position. Can you
strike that? I think it has the same effect.
You said any other appointed position.
You also,
I mean, here's a movie, this particular, those guys serve for me.
Well, I think that may not be such a hurting thing. It's not really talking about an appointment
up here, it's a talking about an appointment to a committee or a commission or a board or a board or something like that.
It's not really talking about us.
But welcome and one.
If it's helpful, we can call the board appointees and nominees.
That's actually what they are to the council members.
And I think that will take care of that.
And then this proposed ordinance basically just says that the terms of, and it's got a
lot of language in there because you have to be able to time everything, right?
But the appointees follow the appointer or the nominators.
The elected officials.
Yeah, the elected officials.
So once you, if you lose, your appointees basically are finished at the end of that turn.
Then the person that replaces you gets to fill those seats, either with the same people if they want to, as long as they haven't served more than nine years.
But it gives us the opportunity to fill all those positions.
I would make a motion that we direct staff to create that policy and that ordinance and bring it back at the next meeting.
Okay, I'm going to ask for a friendly amendment because tonight you had board appointments,
I don't think we need to be discussing people and having people objected to the Council member appointed them, only elected officials to ask you to add to your motion,
that we add to the policy that it will not be pulled for discussion, board appointments,
or board nominations will not be pulled for discussion, maybe other than by Council members.
Maybe that would be the one to go.
I would make that amendment.
And as you take that as your second, okay.
Discussion?
Please vote.
Motion carries seven to zero bringing up item to receive a presentation from staff on specialized traffic warning signs, Michael.
Is that on?
No, it is.
Good evening, Council.
It's not a have a presentation regarding specialized traffic warning signs.
This met the Streets and British Committee last week.
And if you're asked to brief counsel on it, no action is requested on this item.
This is just for informational use only.
Don't want to get a slide.
They're on the agenda.
I'll go ahead and get started while we wait for the slides to begin.
So the purpose of this is to basically discuss non-regulated signs.
So we have no decent bridges and building development committee has no plans to deny these types of
in the future. This is still going to be a council member. We will still be able to request
them and City Council still has a approval to install those signs. Again, this is just
a information only to ensure that informed decisions are made by council background. So,
some of the signs that we are specifically talking about are children at play, autistic child,
blind child, and deaf child signs. These types of signs are not approved in the MUTCD,
which is a manual of uniform traffic control devices. City code currently does require
to use the MUTCD, ultimately because these signs are not in the MUTCD, they're not really enforceable.
There's no regulation that goes along with them.
And because there's no, because there's no, sorry, back it up.
Because it's not in the MUTCD, there is no specific laws or regulations that govern them.
So for example, we could have an autistic child sign up or a children that play sign up in a neighborhood.
There is no regulation that says that people will slow down during the
sign.
They just basically are there to serve as a warning to the public.
We do have some potential legal liabilities when it comes to these types of
signs as well and we'll discuss those real quick.
So as mentioned, there is no standard that exists for these types of
signs.
It's not in the MUTCD.
It's not a standard sign for these.
You can kind of see what we're talking about up in here.
They're typically going to be strongly discouraged in the MUTCD, because they do not specify
location.
They do not provide actual information to a driver, and it relies on an emotional peel rather
than a clear traffic control standard.
This is what our current city code, and MUTCD, and MUTCD says.
Ultimately, again, these signs are not enforceful.
There's no legal basis.
there's lack of a clear meaning and there is no current or no currently, there's no
requirements to renew these science.
So families can move, children can become adults, which negate for the need for these
science and these science just stay up currently.
Multiple studies have shown that these types of science do not actually provide any kind of enhancement
to safety.
You can see other different studies that we have in here.
We did attach those items to the actual agenda so you can review those if you have the
to or want to look at them. We do have some potential legal liabilities with these types of
signs. So, for example, if we put these signs up, a family relies on that sign. It could
and they lead to an accident. The city could theoretically be held liable for that. It also
fosters driver disrespect towards other signs, just having too many signs out there. Can lead
to effectiveness and misleading information, loss of governmental immunity and there's a
Currently, our peer cities do not allow these types of science with the exception of broken
arrow that you do not currently, according to their director of public works, but they have in the past.
Our expected way forward is we are going to be presenting an update to the neighborhood traffic
calling policy based on just putting in a paragraph in there so that we have future council
members or aware of this when I have an brief this every few months or every few years.
And ultimately it's still going to be, again, up to the council member when they receive
of your requests from their citizens to be able to request that appropriately and to either prove or deny from the council side.
And that's all we have for that. Open to any questions.
Okay, thank you.
up out of 46 discussed component units on it and take action as deemed necessary.
By the way, Councilor Wilwitt, now in Christen, you went through 27 items, 15 items, and
27 minutes.
You did good.
Christen.
So at the last meeting, we discussed the component units and how they affect the audit.
So this is a agenda item is, give you all chance to discuss that and direct staff as needed.
So as I recall, we directed the city manager to get direct limbo.
Did we not?
Yes.
And have you done that?
And do we have positive movement on our authority component unit audit?
We do.
Is that all you want to say?
It is.
Then I'm looking for a motion to go to executive session.
Thank you, Christian.
May I have a motion?
I think I heard a second.
Let's, let's call the row.
Hitten.
Yep.
There.
Yes.
Hampton.
We there.
Brandy.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay, can I get a motion to return?
I got a motion, second, please call the roll.
Hitten, abstain, yes.
Yes. Hampton, we go. Yes.
William, present one.
Yes.
Guten.
Okay, item number 47, Tim.
Consideration, discussion, and possible action to enter into executive session,
to hold confidential communication between city of Latin.
We're City Council City of Lawton, and it's attorney concerning the settling of certain
claims in pending litigation, City of Lawton versus Purdue Pharma LP at LK's number
1 colon 19 OP4500 DAP, pending the United States District Court Northern District of Ohio
and related litigation, including potential resolution of certain claims against Purdue
And it's affiliated entities in Purdue Farm at LPs bankruptcy case case number 7, colon 19, B.K. 23, 6, 4, 9,
pining the United States bankruptcy court for Southern District of New York members of the Shacker family,
the Shackers, Aborigin, Inc., Amel, Pharmaceuticals, Apotech, Inc., Hikkala, Pharmaceuticals, USA,
Inc., Indivore, Inc., Myolern, Pharmaceuticals, Sandos, Inc., Sun Pharmaceutical Industries, Inc.,
Zudus, Pharmaceuticals related to lawsuits against pharmaceutical supply chain, participants
of opioid prescription drugs, and taking appropriate action in open session, including
possible authorization to settle claims for disclosure which made us seriously impaired litigation
if known to public as allowed by 25 O.S. 307 before.
That conversation occurred in an executive session and we have a motion.
There you go.
Thank you.
Consider approval of a resolution to include a approving voting to accept the 13th amended
joint chapter 11 plan reorganization of Purdue and it's affiliated debtors in a participation
in case number of 19-23-649,
depending on the United States bankruptcy court for the Southern District of New York.
And authorizing and directing its legal counsel,
vote to accept the plan, be a master-border otherwise.
Be, approving voting to accept and participate in the government entity settlement agreement,
the GESA dated June 15th,
in 2005 and authorizing the mayor of the city of Laughton with the mayor of Designee to
execute the subdivision participation form for the city of Laughton's participation in the
G8 in the GESA and approval of these produced statement, subdivision agreement as it pertains
to the plan and in the GESA.
See.
Proving voting to accept and participate in the settlement agreements with al-Ajinn incorporated.
Amnil Pharmaceuticals Incorporator, Apotex, Incorporated Higma, Pharmaceuticals USA, Endeavor, Endeavor, Incorporated
Malayan Pharmaceuticals Incorporator, Sandos Incorporated, Sand Pharmaceutical Industries, and Zadas Pharmaceuticals.
In authorizing the mayor of the city of Laudon where the mayor does need to execute the
subdivision, participation form for the city of Laudon's participation in the settlements
with Alvagen, M. Neal Pharmaceuticals, Incorporated Apatex, Incorporated Higma Pharmaceuticals,
USA, Incorporated Indivier, Incorporated Melan Pharmaceuticals, Incorporated Sanders, Incorporated
some pharmaceuticals incorporated, and Zada's pharmaceuticals, and approval of the state,
subdivision agreement as it pertains to the general manufacturer's settlements.
Okay, Tim, and council meeting did a great job reading the motion.
Just one.
I noticed one correction.
You said June 15, 2025.
I think there should be a GSA agreement dated June 17, 2017.
Correction.
May.
You got a second.
Please vote.
Yes.
Hampton.
Weakers.
Williams.
Yes.
One.
Motion carries bringing up 48.
10.
Presidents section 307.
Be one title 25.
Oklahoma statutes.
Council convening an executive session to review employment of John Rattlet.
The city manager.
No action is needed.
audience participation, David Tyler is the only one that we have that signed up, David.
You got three minutes.
Push that button and turn that on, would you?
Councilor, I'm taking care of a lot in public schools' boss fields for 24 years.
A 21 years is a volunteer in the last three years.
Jack Hanna hired me specifically for a lot of high and central ball fields.
I'm also on the Perks Committee, and I've made it clear last year before they started construction
of the water park that there would be migration of prey dogs across McMan Drive, and that
we needed to stay on top of it so they did not get on the ball fields.
What I'm here to talk about is stopping them from getting a cross-metman drive.
I've gone on the internet and I've researched barriers that will prevent their migration
across that.
I talk to Dan McDonald today, a wildlife biologist who confirmed that barriers work, they're
very effective in keeping the migration.
I'm not trying to contain them, I'm talking about keeping them from going across that road.
Right now, Central Middle School has abandoned their ballfield since July 25th because there's
pictures of the damage that those pictures don't include ankle breakers where they dig that deep
and you can't see them.
If what if a child gets on their brakes or ankle or they get a disease from their
feces.
One of the pictures shows the dugout and you can see the feces all around it.
According, it's not a biohazard, but there is a large list of diseases and illnesses that
these kids can contract.
I've notified the Parks Department, May, June, July.
I had my knee replaced on the 23rd of July, and that's when I found out from Jay to
Silva, the athletic director at Central, that they have abandoned their ballfields because
of the purer dogs.
Please, I will work with the city to come up with a barrier.
It only has to be three feet high.
The line of sight for a precond, that's important for them because they're afraid of predators.
You blocked that line of sight, they won't go to that area.
So I'm willing to work with you guys.
Those kids are at risk because of those precond, and I need help from the Parks Department
And because they, at the September 16th meeting, they said they had priorities other than
LPS.
So, thank you.
And if you...
Thank you for coming.
And you can get with the city manager.
You can get with the city manager and discuss what kind of barriers you've been you've researched.
Well...
Thank you for coming.
Okay.
I need a motion for adjournment.
Please call for help.
Yep.
Hampton.
We go.
Williams.
One.
We stand adjourned.
Get him.