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taken to the saying you don't sweat when

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you're eating

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call the meeting the two order please

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rise for the flag salute

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allegiance to the flag of the United

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States of America to The Republic which

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it stands one nation under God

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all

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uh will the deputy City recorder please

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call roll

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Jeremy Salvage here

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Wayne Dykstra here here Dave Workman

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here Michelle steinhabel here Carl Mann

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here Rebecca Grizzle here Tom Wells

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uh Josh port and Lance caddy are absent

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thank you

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are there any nominations for Budget

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committee chair I nominated

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I nominate counselor steinable I

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nominate KJ offers we got three

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nominations now

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a second

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so what are you seconding I thing nope

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okay

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looking to nominate KJ alfords as per

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budget committee chair was made by

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councilor Stein hapel hibble I screw her

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name up and I apologize okay I'm so

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sorry we'll get there we will and

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seconded by uh

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counselor Workman all those in favor say

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aye

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opposed nay

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motion passes with

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how many how many we got here four a lot

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is it eight

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seven years and one name

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budget committee takes over the meeting

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that's you now

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okay

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we need a nomination for a budget

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committee secretary

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I nominate counselor Salvage

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second all those in favor

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aye opposed

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done really good so yeah it passes

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unanimously

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okay uh next we're going to look for an

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approval of the May 4th 2022 budget

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committee meetings

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move for approval

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it's been moved and seconded all those

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in favor

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opposed

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okay it passes

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and are we going to do these we've I've

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not done these before we're gonna do

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these now or later

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would be later after we do the

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presentations okay then we would do

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publicly

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okay at this point I'm going to turn it

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over to the city manager for

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presentation of the FY

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2324 budget message thank you good

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afternoon and welcome everybody to the

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best part of the year

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um I have to say that every year because

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it is the best part of the year so you

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do have before you a proposed budget

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this we have made some I think some

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significant changes in the document

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itself this year trying to give a lot

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more information about resources and

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uses of monies and the different funds

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and trying to give more information on

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the services that departments provide

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I will note for the most part we are

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proposing a budget that continues all of

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our existing services at their existing

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levels there are some notable call outs

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one is this budget does not include

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funding reopening the jail

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and chief Stevenson will be able to

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speak to this when when he comes up if

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you have more specific questions but in

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terms of looking at what the jail needs

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we're talking at at least five permanent

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staff positions Corrections Officers

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that would staff the the jail 24 7 we

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would have contracts for services for

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mental health and medical health both of

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which we would be required to provide

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and and we have done in a very minimal

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basis in the past but to meet best

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practices it's about seven hundred fifty

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thousand dollars to reopen the jail so

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that's uh something for the the

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committee to consider

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um we have con included twenty thousand

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dollars to complete an upgrade of the

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city's website it's been uh eight years

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since we last upgraded it we've been

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notified a couple of times that our site

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does not uh meet ADA requirements and

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this is largely for vision impaired

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people where

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um things like when you post an image

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you have to also post a description of

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that image so someone who's having a

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reader read a website

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um you know who cannot see where it says

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click here to go to the next thing would

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have that read out loud and would be

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able to make that action so we're

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looking at at the need to address it uh

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UPS upgrades both from cyber security

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and that ADA accessibility and frankly

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just a Refresh on the web page

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we have included another fifty thousand

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dollar increase in the sanitary sewer

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lateral budget we have more than fully

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expended the budget this year we have

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pulled money out of the manhole project

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uh and Ron was in my office the other

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day saying we have already got people

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lining up for July uh and may may very

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well exceed our budget even with the

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fifty thousand dollar increase for next

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fiscal year

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we have included a safety coordinator

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position in Human Resources this is to

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address overall safety and risk

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management in the organization we've had

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a pretty significant increase the last

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couple of years in workers comp claims

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and employees being injured on the job

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and we have not done a good job of

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record keeping in terms of trainings

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that we have and I should say mandatory

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trainings that we have had people go

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through to make sure that they're doing

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their ladder safety training their

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forklift training those kinds of things

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and frankly everybody in the

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organization is stretched so thin it's

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not something that we can add on to

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someone else's plate saying by the way

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read up on the OSHA rules make sure

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you're doing your trainings and you're

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documenting all that so brought in that

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as a as a position in the current year

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working through

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using some savings from a vacant

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position to make that happen

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we have in the Parks fund we've included

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a bump up of twenty thousand dollars for

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part-time summer casual this is funded

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by Bill Lebanon Trails which is going to

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donate that money each year for the next

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several years with that position really

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dedicated to doing maintenance along the

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trails there is a huge amount of Mowing

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and weed control and trash pickup and

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sweeping on those trails that needs to

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be done in the summertime in particular

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and so BLT has agreed to fund that

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additional work to make sure the trails

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are good

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um in the custodial and building fund

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we're adding a mechanic we have for a

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number of years sent our vehicles to

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Benton County Public Works for

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maintenance that takes the vehicle out

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of service for you know three or four

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hours assuming that you can Buzz over

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get an oil change and Buzz back that

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doesn't always happen and Benton County

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shop rate has gone up significantly the

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last couple of years so we're going to

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add a mechanic they will be doing the

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maintenance on our police vehicles

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Public Works vehicles are our Lynx buses

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engineerings Vehicles their their

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pickups and those kinds of things and we are seeing a reduction then in

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what we would be paying in in that

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maintenance budget across those

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departments in the organization

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um and finally the senior center

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activities planner was bumped from a

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half time to a full time as we continue

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to invest in evidence-based programming

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for seniors really working to try and

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make sure that we are Helping Seniors

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live their best lives to be healthy both

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mentally and physically so lots of

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classes on you know exercise and

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stretching that you can do in a chair or

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you can do with very low impact not

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suffer injuries and then the the brain

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side of it crossword puzzles games

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pinochle is back I think so trying to

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make sure that we're keeping that

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population going

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um I will note for the Pro's proposed

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budget in total at your place this is a

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summary of the data that's in the book

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um it's a one-pager and we did add the

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proportion of variance in in terms of

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the current proposed budget versus the

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adopted budget our Revenue projections

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are down pretty much across the board

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even with property taxes up we are

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reductions and assessments we're seeing

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reductions in

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grant money we don't have the federal

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arpa dollars coming through we don't

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budget grants generally until we receive

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them so we can always do a supplemental

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budget in the year if we get a grant but

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we don't budget assuming that we're

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going to get those and then appropriate

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and spend money potentially that we

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don't get

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um our expenditures in total are down a

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little bit on the operating side with

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some UPS some Downs by Department

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that's pretty normal for where we are

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again some of that is you may have had a

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department that had Grant funded program

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this year and then doesn't have that

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next year so they have that grant money

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re removed out of their budget for next

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year and so we do see some of that

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moving through the course of the budget

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I will note the numbers in the budget

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message this table got updated very last

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minute so the totals in the budget

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message on page seven are off by a

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little bit this is the the correct total

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budget I think we found one or two minor

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things that hadn't carried through in

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terms of the total budget so uh work off

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of those numbers

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um I will focus most of my comments here

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on the general fund uh the general fund

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as you all know is our major

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operating fund that gets property tax

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money uh it is uh fiscally challenged we

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are having a structural problem and I'm

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going to say we are not the only ones

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across the state of Oregon uh right now

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most communities are in about the same

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place we are in terms of working through

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budget committee and city council uh

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County Commission adoption of budgets

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um and and if you read headlines in

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multiple newspapers you see Salem is

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looking at an 18 million dollar deficit

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Eugene at 15 million Ontario is looking

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at whether or not they ought to

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Institute fees to add a police officer

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so it doesn't really matter the size

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communities are all in this place

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where your incoming revenue is not

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growing as fast as your outflow

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expenditures and that mismatch for us

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for the the proposed budget year is 1.2

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million dollars where we're projecting

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to spend 1.2 million more than we're

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bringing in we have fund balance we're

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not at negative we're not deficit

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spending there is uh not a cause for

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severe Panic there is cause to look hard

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at what the future is going to be and

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how to best balance services in going

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into the future to try and keep within

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our resource our Revenue stream on an

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annualized basis and I note uh that can

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be done in several ways right you can

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cut the budget you can seek new revenues

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in a variety of ways you can do a

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combination of those that's going to be

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some work we're going to ask the council

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to to take up over the coming year I I

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will also note that for the first time

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we have a five-year financial plan that

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is in the budget this is on page 13.

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this is for the general fund we're

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hoping to be able to add other major

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funds this really does try and project

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out where we are today

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and if our current trends continue into

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the future where we would be in the next

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five years

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I'm the first person to tell you that by

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definition the budget's plan the plan

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never goes according to plan so I can

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tell you that uh bottom line the numbers

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will not be what we are projecting right

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we will have years over those five years

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where we'll have some years where

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revenues are higher than expected and

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some years where they're lower we'll

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have years where we don't spend the full

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budget maybe by a significant share so

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for example the current year with the

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police department vacancies that we have

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had the police department budget will be

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considerably under expended but we're

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getting very close to the police

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department once again being fully

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staffed and I would not predict that we

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would under expend to that level I would

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hope we would not expend under expend to

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that level next year so we see those

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waves coming through the budget what we

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do is try to put together a snapshot

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that lets us say what actions can we

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take today that will make our financial

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situation and look better in the long

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term

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to that end staff made some Cuts in the

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budgets in in there from what they

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originally asked for to what is in the

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document before you the cuts that we've

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made are largely materials and supplies

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some contracts some capital outlay

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those are not going to be sustainable in

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terms of maintaining our current

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operations so we can cut training back

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for a year in a department but sooner or

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later certification requires that those

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trainings be brought back to the to the

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fore we can cut our computer replacement

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budget for a little bit for a year but

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those computers will begin to fail

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upgrades will have to happen or else our

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system fails so we recognize that a lot

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of what has been cut to get us to this

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point for this year is kind of a

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one-time basis and will require more

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work on an ongoing basis to to take this

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community forward in time

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um I would say uh I I would like to be

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able to see our revenues grow I we are

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still

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almost 10 years from uh when we will

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make our final debt payment on the

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northwest urban renewal District in that

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District would you know that value would

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roll back on to the tax rolls

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um I I would hope that we could do it

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sooner than that but you do have to make

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all the debt payment commitments that

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you have and we are working through that

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um I also will note that we continue to

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try and invest in infrastructure and you

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see that around the community but that

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is largely being done with water and

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sewer rate Revenue right it's the

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monthly utility bill so uh as you've

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heard Ron talk about West Side

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Interceptor that's funded by the by the

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Wastewater fund it's not funded by the

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general fund so that work continues even

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because that fund we're able to set

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rates and raise the revenue we need but

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it's not going to help us in the general

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fund where we we can't raise those rates

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at this point

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um for the future again I I think the

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general fund is the the largest area of

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concern I think we recognize the need

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for additional police officers we would

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like to be able to reopen the jail

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that's going to be a heavy lift

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um I think the senior center needs to

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have at least one more activities

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planner offering services in the in the

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post covet environment we are seeing

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more and more people using that facility

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as as they feel safe to do

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um we don't have a public information

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officer we don't have a disaster

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management planner both of those are

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positions I think are important and both

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of those positions would function in in

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part internally within the organization

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but also in part with Communications

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with the community there is a lot to be

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said for a disaster management planner

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doing

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community trainings based on what should

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you be prepared for how do you pack a go

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bag what should be in those GO bags how

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do you know who's in your neighborhood

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and when the big one hits or the flood

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hits or the Fire Hits who do you need to

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make sure is okay you know did were you

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able to get out of the house are you

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safe who was where do we have vulnerable

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members that are in my block that I can

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watch out for

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I will tell you that our parks

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department is understaffed I know a lot

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of you use the trails when you walk

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along those Trails pay attention to how

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much space there is on both sides of

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those trails that need to be mowed need

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to be weeded need to be attended to

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maintained cleaned in addition to all of

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our parks and our Sports fields and

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maintaining all of those there's a lot

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of work that that is done by public

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works on a routine basis and Jason and

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his crews make a good good job of kind

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of moving people who are the highest

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demand is at any given time but we do

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need to invest more in our Parks

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maintenance and our and and our

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facilities there particularly as we see

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the cheetah Lake Project coming forward

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in the next couple of years and

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expansions and expanded use of that Park

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expanded use will mean expanded

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maintenance also

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I note that we continue to have no

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resources to fix local streets what we

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get from the state every year in gas tax

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money is not enough we do Street

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projects as we can so again with Ron

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you've heard a lot of discussion about

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the 7th Street water line that's become

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water line sewer line storm water line

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and street so that will address that

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section of 7th Street but again you all

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know driving around town our residential

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streets are in bad shape and we don't

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have money coming in for that we

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continue to see decreases in state gas

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tax money as more people switch to EVS

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or as gas mileage is going up and we see

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the state trying to figure out how

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they're going to

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manage both the demand that ODOT has for

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needing more resources and the demand

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that cities and Counties have in terms

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of how we get resources to maintain our

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local streets

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that is coming a conversation at the

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state level but it it also needs to be a

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conversation at the local level because

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I don't believe the state is going to

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come with money that says you know

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here's enough that you can

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replace or repair 10 blocks of local

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streets every year that that you know

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every Community has a need for

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um I know we're completing the

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wastewater treatment plant master plan

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that should be coming to the council for

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review later this summer or early fall I

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think we have every expectation that is going to lay out a series of

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needed improvements at the wastewater

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treatment plant that are going to be

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costly as we watch our neighbors sweet

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home that's gone from a 20 million

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dollar plant to a 40 million dollar

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plant to a 55 million dollar plant same

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plant just the cost driving up this the

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those needs that's going to put more

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pressure on our Wastewater rates in

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terms of the need to fund those services

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and meet the requirements

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um I'll tell you we're watching at the

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federal level as the federal government

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looks at per end polyfluorinated

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substances pfas you'll hear a lot more

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about this I'm pretty sure over the

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coming years that are in drinking water

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or not in drinking water we aren't

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really sure

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um but there is a movement to require

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local water service providers to treat

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for pfas and to make sure those are not

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in your water and if we have them in our

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water that will be expansion of some

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kind likely at the water treatment plant

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I'll tell you I'm hoping for federal

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money to come in and pay for that as

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they drive that because they certainly

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recognize

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that there is a significant need for uh

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for communities to address their water

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infrastructure but I can't hold my

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breath anymore that the federal

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government is going to fund what the

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federal government requires us to do so

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we're watching it

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we're starting to look at what that

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might involve

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I know that we are likely to reach a

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population of 20 000 this year or next

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year

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we'll see those numbers come out in in

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December from Portland State University

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um all kinds of things are happening as

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we switch into that we're no longer

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considered a rural community that moves

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us out of a pot of rural grants that was

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pretty easy to get just call up and say

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hey we need some money for this thing

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and you'd have a couple people at the

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state say yeah let's help you as a rural

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community you need that help at at even

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our current population they kind of say

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yeah you can do that on your own

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um and the grants get more complex they

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get bigger they have more strings

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attached to them they need more work to

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apply for them more work to manage them

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as we go forward in time but I always

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like being able to get a grant to fund a

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significant project that the community

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needs because we have such a hard time

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raising that money locally

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um I also will say that that starts

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adding more responsibilities to some

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extent you all are seeing that the

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council is seeing that as we work

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through things like the housing

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production strategy bills that are

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moving in the current legislative

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session are moving that to a state

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coming in and telling you if you're over

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ten thousand here's what you have to do

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on Housing Development to get more

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affordable housing more housing and

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total built in the community we're going

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to continue to see those things drive as

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the state says if you're over ten

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thousand we will have another jump when

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we get to 25 000 which is a couple of

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years off but uh but maybe not that far

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and so I think those are going to put

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pressures on us and our ability to

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provide services to the community and

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continue to do that uh at

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and maintain everything else that we're

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doing

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00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:48,419
um I'm going to close by saying I

557
00:22:48,419 --> 00:22:50,400
appreciate the work that staff does

558
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,260
every year in terms of pulling the

559
00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:55,080
budget together for us we've spent a lot

560
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080
of time working on this and I appreciate

561
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,419
Brandon and his group I I think Brandon

562
00:23:00,419 --> 00:23:02,400
did a good job of bringing more

563
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,500
information into the budget about what

564
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:06,840
we do and why we do it where the revenue

565
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,760
comes from the assumptions that we're

566
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,039
making about what's happening with those

567
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,799
revenues uh and and being clear with

568
00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:16,500
those assumptions to say it you know

569
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,740
assumptions that prove to be wrong give

570
00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:21,539
us some opportunity to make amendments

571
00:23:21,539 --> 00:23:23,760
going forward so with that I'm going to

572
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,400
stop and answer questions if there are

573
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320
any

574
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,029
are there any questions

575
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:33,600
just curious how many do we know how

576
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,419
many are in our Fleet of City vehicles I

577
00:23:36,419 --> 00:23:37,320
should probably know that but I don't

578
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,840
know how many there is and I think it's

579
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,760
a lot

580
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,039
um

581
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:46,799
I I think uh I'm I'm looking up at

582
00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:50,100
Jason's got a billion 25

583
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:52,020
oh

584
00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:54,000
75 total

585
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,039
okay thank you so that you know I mean

586
00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:57,120
you you have to think about that

587
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,000
includes mowers and that's everything

588
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280
what is that the Sheep's foot that

589
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,460
trumps down gravel things so we've got a

590
00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:09,000
lot of of kind of peculiar machines in

591
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,919
addition to Vehicles things like the

592
00:24:10,919 --> 00:24:12,900
vectors the street sweepers require a

593
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:16,430
lot of attention

594
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,860
any other questions for Nancy

595
00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:22,620
okay let's go on to the presentation of

596
00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:25,679
budget of Department budgets

597
00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:28,440
Nancy okay so we're going to have

598
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,120
directors come up

599
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,980
um and we're going to try and do this in

600
00:24:31,980 --> 00:24:33,240
a timely way so we're going to start

601
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,600
with Kendra Antilla our library director

602
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,640
Frank Stevenson will come up because

603
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,039
he's next up they're going to give you

604
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:42,780
and as we go through this you're going

605
00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:44,340
to get

606
00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:46,620
four to six minutes five minutes ish

607
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:49,140
presentation highlights of the budget

608
00:24:49,140 --> 00:24:51,120
and then have the opportunity to ask

609
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,240
questions and uh getting any other

610
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,980
information that you need or would like

611
00:24:55,980 --> 00:25:04,970
to have from a department director

612
00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:07,260
okay here we go

613
00:25:07,260 --> 00:25:09,539
good afternoon everyone

614
00:25:09,539 --> 00:25:11,460
if you've heard me talk about the

615
00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:13,919
library ever you've heard me say that we

616
00:25:13,919 --> 00:25:16,740
are more than books

617
00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:18,659
um it always amazes me that people who

618
00:25:18,659 --> 00:25:20,640
are not Library users have no idea that

619
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,460
we also have movies music audio books

620
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:27,179
magazines newspapers we have a library

621
00:25:27,179 --> 00:25:30,059
of things almost exclusively Grant

622
00:25:30,059 --> 00:25:33,059
funded in that collection our patrons

623
00:25:33,059 --> 00:25:35,520
can check out things like a microscope a

624
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,940
telescope a sewing machine

625
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:41,039
electronic drum keyboard specialty cake

626
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,520
pans a bird watching kit engineering and

627
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,320
robotics kits

628
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,539
toy cash register for kids to learn

629
00:25:48,539 --> 00:25:52,860
about money a Puppet Theater board games

630
00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:56,179
we also have a seed Library that's all

631
00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:59,520
donated seeds from wholesalers where

632
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,279
patrons can check out a variety of seeds

633
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,919
between the physical and digital items

634
00:26:04,919 --> 00:26:07,500
in our collection we check out roughly

635
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:12,020
150 000 items annually

636
00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:15,480
we also have public computers we have

637
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,539
Wi-Fi blazing fast Wi-Fi inside the

638
00:26:18,539 --> 00:26:20,659
building and outside the building

639
00:26:20,659 --> 00:26:24,120
it's important to remember that in-home

640
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,940
internet is a luxury not everyone can

641
00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:29,279
afford and or if you're in a rural area

642
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,220
it's just not possible

643
00:26:32,220 --> 00:26:35,460
so um if you notice in the budget report

644
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:37,320
I did a

645
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,500
there's an impact report graphic

646
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:44,760
we had over 75 000 Wi-Fi connections in

647
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,919
the past year and close to 11

648
00:26:46,919 --> 00:26:50,580
000. internet uses of our in-house

649
00:26:50,580 --> 00:26:53,940
computers we also have study rooms that

650
00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:56,100
are constantly busy there's only three

651
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,559
of them but they're heavily used by the

652
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:00,900
public for tutoring for job interviews

653
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:04,020
for Zoom meetings for supervised

654
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:06,419
visitation even they get a lot of use

655
00:27:06,419 --> 00:27:08,720
for a lot of different things

656
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,220
we're also part of the Lynn Library

657
00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:14,400
Consortium that is a reciprocal

658
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,159
agreement between Albany Sweet Home Scio

659
00:27:17,159 --> 00:27:19,380
Harrisburg and Lebanon Public Libraries

660
00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:21,840
as well as Lynn Benton Community College

661
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,260
we started that Consortium in 2017.

662
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:28,740
that allows my patrons Lebanon patrons

663
00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:30,900
can check out items from any of those

664
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,539
libraries at no cost to them

665
00:27:33,539 --> 00:27:35,520
they can choose to have it delivered to

666
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,860
the Lebanon Library via Courier or they

667
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:39,600
can go to any of those libraries and use

668
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,059
their Lebanon card at those libraries

669
00:27:42,059 --> 00:27:46,020
the only cost involved is the cost for

670
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:48,539
The Courier that cost me about two

671
00:27:48,539 --> 00:27:50,940
thousand dollars a year and Lebanon

672
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:53,220
patrons checked out close to ninety

673
00:27:53,220 --> 00:27:55,559
thousand dollars worth of materials from

674
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,539
those other libraries in just the past

675
00:27:57,539 --> 00:27:59,179
year

676
00:27:59,179 --> 00:28:01,620
and a big part of what we do is

677
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:04,980
programming programming is huge

678
00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:08,279
um we do story times of course early

679
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,880
literacy is crucial and we all benefit

680
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,700
from a more literate Society we have

681
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,100
preschool and baby story times there

682
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:20,700
have been 59 story times since September

683
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,039
we take we do summer reading and then we

684
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,659
start up again with story times in

685
00:28:24,659 --> 00:28:26,700
September so since September there have

686
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:28,380
been 59 story times the average

687
00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,500
attendance is 44 people at those story

688
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:32,600
times

689
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,940
we also have adult book club we have

690
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:38,880
game night we have Sugo which stands for

691
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,100
show up geek out that's stem programming

692
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,320
for children we have a teen Advisory

693
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Group that plans all kinds of teen

694
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400
activities we do

695
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,980
um huge public events during Spring

696
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:53,159
Break and summer reading

697
00:28:53,159 --> 00:28:56,659
um and we do often just sporadic story

698
00:28:56,659 --> 00:28:59,340
events for other things we recently had

699
00:28:59,340 --> 00:29:01,679
the Audubon Society come out and do a

700
00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:04,440
bird talk and then they took people

701
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,059
outside gave them

702
00:29:06,059 --> 00:29:06,679
um

703
00:29:06,679 --> 00:29:09,179
binoculars and showed him a bunch of

704
00:29:09,179 --> 00:29:12,600
cool things we do family game nights we

705
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,120
recently did um one where they did a

706
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,000
Nerf we handed out Nerf guns and safety

707
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,440
glasses to everyone and they played

708
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,419
Capture the Flag

709
00:29:21,419 --> 00:29:24,000
um we and then candy bar Bingo we

710
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,580
recently had a Star Wars night on May

711
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:29,640
the 4th we had 305 attendees at that

712
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,279
event family events free fun safe family

713
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,620
programming is a huge deal and it's

714
00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:38,940
something that we offer to the public

715
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:43,020
and anytime we do we just have massive turnouts for

716
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:44,220
things like that

717
00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:47,520
all programming is free it's open to

718
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,940
everyone no library card is required

719
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:53,039
and that's a little summation of what we

720
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,200
do

721
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,940
thank you any any questions from anybody

722
00:29:59,940 --> 00:30:07,010
nothing okay thank you ma'am thanks

723
00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:19,549
we're gonna have Frank up next

724
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,500
good afternoon everyone

725
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,049
how's everyone doing

726
00:30:26,059 --> 00:30:29,940
I'm doing great thanks I believe uh our

727
00:30:29,940 --> 00:30:31,799
budget uh for the police department's on

728
00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:33,539
page 45 in case you guys need to

729
00:30:33,539 --> 00:30:35,399
reference that

730
00:30:35,399 --> 00:30:37,799
um just a quick synopsis of what the

731
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,440
police department consists of we uh

732
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440
42

733
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,080
budgeted uh for full-time employees

734
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,860
um

735
00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:51,120
uh We've as suggested or as stated

736
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,840
um

737
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,720
the jail is is the number one topic

738
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000
right now is how we're going to reopen

739
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,880
that and how are we going to fund that

740
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,600
um

741
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,659
that's kind of a pretty big deal

742
00:31:03,659 --> 00:31:04,919
um and it's something that's going to be

743
00:31:04,919 --> 00:31:06,899
a heavy lift in the in the coming years

744
00:31:06,899 --> 00:31:10,440
to figure out how we are going to make

745
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,360
that happen

746
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,020
um I've included in the presentation for

747
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:18,480
you guys to review is just a few graphs

748
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,460
and

749
00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:22,140
um rather than going over all those

750
00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:23,640
graphs I figured I would just leave it

751
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,960
up to you guys if you had any questions

752
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,380
in regards to that but one in particular

753
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:29,279
um

754
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:31,559
to pay attention to is just the rise in

755
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,659
population and the decrease in the

756
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:35,299
number of officers

757
00:31:35,299 --> 00:31:39,059
also another one is the use of force you

758
00:31:39,059 --> 00:31:41,159
see that the use of force is definitely

759
00:31:41,159 --> 00:31:43,799
on the uptick and on the uprise

760
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:47,600
with the number of officers decreasing

761
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,539
some highlights as far as something that

762
00:31:51,539 --> 00:31:54,000
as you guys are very much aware of we've

763
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,279
been short staffed over the last year

764
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,080
and a half

765
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,020
I'm happy to say though to report to you

766
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:05,039
that uh we've hired seven since the

767
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:06,659
beginning of the year it says six in

768
00:32:06,659 --> 00:32:08,580
here but I just hired another one last

769
00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:11,700
week so we're definitely on the uptick

770
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:14,159
on getting us back to fully stuffed I

771
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:15,600
have two

772
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,059
remaining that are in backgrounds right

773
00:32:18,059 --> 00:32:19,740
now if we get those through backgrounds

774
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:21,179
and Sykes and everything we'll be back

775
00:32:21,179 --> 00:32:23,220
to fully staffed so that's something

776
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:24,179
that

777
00:32:24,179 --> 00:32:27,480
I made a goal or you know my me and my

778
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,460
Administration made a goal within a year

779
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:31,200
to get us back to fully staffed and

780
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,860
we're reaching that goal so

781
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:36,899
um

782
00:32:36,899 --> 00:32:39,720
there's a lot to say but I don't know

783
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,580
what kind of questions you guys have so

784
00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:43,140
I'm just going to leave it up to you

785
00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:47,870
guys

786
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,919
well I have a question it's more for

787
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:52,380
maybe directed at Nancy

788
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:57,299
um on these one of the variants on the right side there for police it's 4.2

789
00:32:57,299 --> 00:33:01,380
is that is that to to uh address and

790
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,520
just

791
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,159
the economic inflationary period we're

792
00:33:05,159 --> 00:33:08,580
in or how how do you describe that okay

793
00:33:08,580 --> 00:33:13,019
so uh as as we noted uh we have two

794
00:33:13,019 --> 00:33:16,080
labor units American Federation of State

795
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,000
County Municipal Employees which is our

796
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,100
general Service Unit Teamsters which is

797
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,500
everybody except the four management

798
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,320
positions in the just well in the police

799
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200
department so records evidence all of

800
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,500
the police officers sergeants

801
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,360
those units have Labor agreements in the

802
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,980
case of the police department they have

803
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:36,360
an existing agreement that doesn't

804
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,740
expire until June 30th of 24 and that

805
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,860
agreement sets out what their cost of

806
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:45,600
living adjustments are so they're

807
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,120
getting uh everyone in the unit is

808
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,580
getting a four percent Cola and then we

809
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:52,679
have a one percent I'm going to make

810
00:33:52,679 --> 00:33:53,880
sure I'm doing this right a one percent

811
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,100
Market adjustment for officers and

812
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,100
sergeants who uh in our last

813
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:02,460
negotiations were behind Market

814
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:04,860
um any officer and and with seven new

815
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:08,159
officers coming uh on board uh hopefully

816
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,099
soon to be nine uh they start at step

817
00:34:11,099 --> 00:34:14,099
one on the pay scale but then they get

818
00:34:14,099 --> 00:34:17,099
step increases at six months I don't

819
00:34:17,099 --> 00:34:19,740
remember now the the timing so they

820
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:21,359
might get an additional five percent

821
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:24,960
step increase and with more young

822
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,540
officers on on payroll we've got more

823
00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:30,480
officers getting that step increase I

824
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,460
think police kept their materials and

825
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:36,419
services budget relatively flat but like

826
00:34:36,419 --> 00:34:38,879
everybody else you know

827
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:42,060
um it it we are seeing cost increases

828
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:44,700
that are general cost increases but I

829
00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:46,859
think the the Staffing costs are a big

830
00:34:46,859 --> 00:34:49,619
issue at the police department

831
00:34:49,619 --> 00:34:50,339
um

832
00:34:50,339 --> 00:34:51,720
I think it's important to remember we're

833
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:53,839
a service organization and that's people

834
00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:57,240
and it does cost to have people and to

835
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:00,300
have the you know the salaries the

836
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:02,880
benefits all of that

837
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,980
and then this is for the chief uh and I

838
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:07,500
probably know this but DHS is that

839
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:09,599
what's the acronym stand for Department

840
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,240
of Human Services so it's it's uh you

841
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,099
know we're taking Homeland Security for

842
00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:15,599
a second I was like no that that can't

843
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,119
be it so yeah yeah I mean you'll see in

844
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,400
the in the graphs and such that uh the

845
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,740
number of calls kind of have remained

846
00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:25,560
the same increased a little bit but the

847
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,420
nature of the calls um that we're

848
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,520
dealing with in regards to what we used

849
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,200
to deal with have become a lot more

850
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,359
complex

851
00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:35,160
um what DHS referrals that's that's

852
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,180
child welfare is is um uh but more

853
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:41,220
seriousness crimes that we're

854
00:35:41,220 --> 00:35:43,740
investigating mental health aspect

855
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:47,460
um of course the healthlessness so a lot

856
00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:49,680
of these components are taking up a lot

857
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680
of majority of our time leaving us to we

858
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,960
unfortunately is is we're a reactive

859
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,640
department and that's something that

860
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,500
Lebanon Police Department

861
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,359
in a in a hole is never uh we've always

862
00:36:02,359 --> 00:36:05,579
prided ourselves on being proactive

863
00:36:05,579 --> 00:36:07,920
um well these last couple years we've

864
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,440
been slowly going into the just the

865
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,300
reactive side of things and that's just

866
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:14,400
due to the the amount of officers that

867
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,920
we have lost and

868
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,320
um and just the lack of resources that

869
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,320
we've had available to us

870
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,859
um

871
00:36:22,859 --> 00:36:24,720
yeah one thing I found interesting is

872
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,700
the national average and I put that in

873
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:29,160
there just for you guys to review

874
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,839
um it shows that national average is

875
00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:33,599
what 2.2 per month out 2.2 officers per

876
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:35,040
1000

877
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,220
um right now if I was fully staffed that

878
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:40,560
leaves us with 1.6

879
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,440
so we're below average and I take that

880
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,500
26 number and that includes myself that

881
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,480
includes all of my administrative staff

882
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,700
and detectives you take them out of the

883
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:51,540
mix

884
00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:54,980
that leaves us with 19 Patrol

885
00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:58,680
that leaves us below one

886
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680
so we're like a point I'm not a

887
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,720
mathematician but if I was to do it

888
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,420
definitely is below one percent or one

889
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:10,200
per 1000 population so definitely are

890
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,900
way below national average

891
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,020
and as we're seeing

892
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:17,520
within the city the livability issues

893
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,460
and that's strictly what we deal with

894
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:22,380
the thefts are increasing burglaries are

895
00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:24,780
increasing stolen cars are increasing

896
00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:27,780
and that's just that goes along with not

897
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:28,859
enough

898
00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:31,980
there to react to what's going on out

899
00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:34,160
there

900
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,380
I I had a question uh I understand that

901
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:40,800
2.2 and 1.6 and when you strip out the

902
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,280
overhead folks it's like 0.8 yeah how does that compare with the rest of

903
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,320
the valley I mean

904
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,000
we can't be the only ones that are

905
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,680
suffering this

906
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,180
I don't think we're the only ones

907
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:55,920
suffering this I don't think we're I

908
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,300
think we're definitely one that are this

909
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:58,099
low

910
00:37:58,099 --> 00:38:01,079
for sure

911
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,140
I I would note some of the rest of the

912
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:07,680
valley communities have put in place

913
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,800
fees on utility bills and they are

914
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,200
paying for police officers with that

915
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,780
or they have a local option Levy that is

916
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:19,079
funding police officers and and those

917
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:22,200
two solutions seem to be

918
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359
um uh what a lot of communities are

919
00:38:24,359 --> 00:38:26,820
doing to try and increase their their

920
00:38:26,820 --> 00:38:29,760
Public Safety Staffing I I also will

921
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,220
note that with the increased complexity

922
00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:34,380
of the calls that the police department

923
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:35,940
is going on

924
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:39,780
it becomes uh critical to have more than

925
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:42,720
one officer responding uh it's it's a

926
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,339
you know one officer pulls you over to

927
00:38:44,339 --> 00:38:46,500
give you a speeding ticket but if you're

928
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:48,119
on a domestic if you're working on

929
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:49,859
livability issue you've got mental

930
00:38:49,859 --> 00:38:51,780
health issues you need at least two

931
00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:54,780
officers and sometimes you need four to

932
00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:57,300
make sure that that the person you're

933
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:59,880
working with is safe and your officers

934
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,420
are safe and I think that is

935
00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:06,119
uh I think that is driving the need for

936
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:10,079
more officers uh in in all communities

937
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,180
and I you know we're not we're not alone

938
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:14,640
in dealing with with these challenges

939
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,980
and the continued lack of Mental Health

940
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:20,940
Resources uh that can that that is a

941
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:23,099
challenge for everybody in the state of

942
00:39:23,099 --> 00:39:24,540
Oregon right now right I'm just

943
00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:26,760
wondering if we're facing this alone or

944
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,579
if or how other people are are handling

945
00:39:29,579 --> 00:39:31,079
this situation

946
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:34,140
just food for thought what we might do

947
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:36,480
yeah I mean there's there's always you

948
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,220
know I meet with other local

949
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:41,760
jurisdictions on a bi-monthly basis and

950
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,339
I mean some they're facing some of the

951
00:39:44,339 --> 00:39:46,140
same challenges we are when it comes to

952
00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,960
mental health and and lack of resources

953
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,660
like every other agency is and I'm not

954
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:54,119
saying that we're the only one but I

955
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:55,980
think it's imperative to understand that

956
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:57,660
we're are pretty much the only one

957
00:39:57,660 --> 00:39:59,160
that's this low

958
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,680
and and I think that's something that

959
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,599
you know is something that we all need

960
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:05,700
to understand and then there needs to

961
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:08,040
come to a point where everything that

962
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,660
the Lebanon Police Department's known

963
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,380
for community policing Outreach

964
00:40:12,380 --> 00:40:14,579
proactivity things of that nature is

965
00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:16,380
slowly being diminished slowly going

966
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:18,420
away because I don't have the resources

967
00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:22,859
simply put to to address those I have to

968
00:40:22,859 --> 00:40:24,420
respond to calls that's the number one

969
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:26,099
priority right well you haven't had the

970
00:40:26,099 --> 00:40:28,380
resources for a while no I mean and just

971
00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:30,300
to mention yes I have hired people but

972
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:31,740
it's going to take them probably another

973
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:34,320
8 18 months before they're legitimately

974
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,960
out on their own and being productive

975
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,400
members of the police department not

976
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,900
saying they're not productive now or or

977
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:43,020
appreciated but right now they're just

978
00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:45,480
being trained so and that's just the

979
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,920
process that we have to go through right

980
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,560
there's no quick fix to this no it's

981
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,480
been a slow and steady climb I mean

982
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,240
we're we're getting there and

983
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,040
um you know we're seeing the light at

984
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,480
the end of the tunnel I wish the light

985
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,020
was a lot brighter but it is what it is

986
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:09,770
um but we're getting there good right

987
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:14,060
introducing a levy to address the jail

988
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:17,160
we have not but that is something that I

989
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,500
think is in the future to discuss is

990
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:25,500
something a local Levy to address just the gel I don't necessarily want it

991
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:28,680
to be a police operational operational

992
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,780
but if it could if it could address that

993
00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:33,900
piece it would it would address some of

994
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:37,380
the other issues by default that a

995
00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:39,780
hundred percent agree yeah if we can

996
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:41,760
open up the jail and be able to house

997
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680
individuals and hold them accountable

998
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,079
for committing some of the local thefts

999
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:48,839
and things of that nature I mean we can

1000
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:51,300
you can see in the grass kind of where

1001
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,640
the crime was starting to come down our

1002
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,260
jail was open

1003
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:57,359
um the traffic offenses were going down

1004
00:41:57,359 --> 00:41:59,760
because I had people out there dedicated

1005
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,579
to traffic so you can see when when

1006
00:42:02,579 --> 00:42:04,380
things are in place and operating as

1007
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:06,180
they should be crime rate goes down

1008
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,160
things go down we're being more

1009
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,200
proactive so in regards to the jail

1010
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,720
absolutely if we were able to

1011
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,839
somehow find a way to fund the jail the

1012
00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:17,640
way that it needs to be funded and have

1013
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,280
the dedicated employees just strictly

1014
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,220
for the jail that would definitely start

1015
00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:24,960
we just definitely start seeing a

1016
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,380
decrease in livability issue thefts and

1017
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:29,700
things of that nature because we'd be

1018
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:31,740
able to hold people accountable I was a

1019
00:42:31,740 --> 00:42:33,359
long-winded answer wasn't it that was

1020
00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:34,619
really long

1021
00:42:34,619 --> 00:42:36,480
I can keep going

1022
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,430
no I can't say

1023
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,780
it's largely

1024
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:44,700
of the police department and I think

1025
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:47,040
that that would be something worthy of

1026
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,140
exploring and because we we do have high

1027
00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:51,119
expectations of you because we we have a

1028
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:55,140
good history of of response and of

1029
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:56,760
service from the Lebanon Police

1030
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040
Department but that I mean having been

1031
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,400
part of that that jail decision and

1032
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,400
seeing the impact on the city

1033
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,859
um I think it really behooves us to

1034
00:43:07,859 --> 00:43:10,500
painfully explore how to get that back

1035
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,859
open yeah and I fully agree with you I'm

1036
00:43:13,859 --> 00:43:16,020
not very good at math or algebra but is

1037
00:43:16,020 --> 00:43:17,640
there a way to quantify what it costs us

1038
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,020
to not have a jail

1039
00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:21,240
is there any well you can see together

1040
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,040
to get an idea what it cost not to have

1041
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,440
a jail yeah uh well you can see in the

1042
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,020
budget the the cuts that have been made

1043
00:43:28,020 --> 00:43:32,400
um if if again it's you're talking 750

1044
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,040
000 roughly for personnel and medical so

1045
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,180
there's 750. if we had a jail what cost

1046
00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:41,220
would we be eliminating is there a way

1047
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:42,359
to quantify that

1048
00:43:42,359 --> 00:43:43,500
I mean

1049
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:47,099
or is that oh this algebra yeah that's

1050
00:43:47,099 --> 00:43:48,599
this that's yeah that's your algebra

1051
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:50,040
thing you still have I mean yeah you

1052
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,780
could take materials and services which

1053
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:54,599
is roughly about fifty thousand dollars

1054
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:55,920
so

1055
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,839
but I don't think you can put a price on

1056
00:43:57,839 --> 00:43:59,280
safety and I don't think you can

1057
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,900
definitely put a price would we be safer

1058
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:03,000
how would we be safer in Lebanon if we

1059
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040
had a jail right now how would we be

1060
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,900
safe would we be able to put people in

1061
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:07,619
jail

1062
00:44:07,619 --> 00:44:09,540
again

1063
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,339
and help people accountable instead of

1064
00:44:11,339 --> 00:44:13,140
the heavy lifting of the cost of having

1065
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:15,599
the J having to have a jail what's it

1066
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,220
costing us to not have a jail that

1067
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:19,800
serves us I can see the difference so I

1068
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,839
guess kind of rhetorical question but I

1069
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:23,700
agree we need to we need to explore that

1070
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:25,500
and find a way that that's a priority

1071
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,619
and not just brush that off yeah I think

1072
00:44:28,619 --> 00:44:30,720
where he's going is uh how many fewer

1073
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,040
water snakes would we have how many

1074
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,500
fewer I see what you're saying would we

1075
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:36,660
have and we could probably figure that

1076
00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:40,319
within reason based on prior statistics

1077
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:42,359
where it was open and that's that's some

1078
00:44:42,359 --> 00:44:44,040
of the things that again if some of the

1079
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,920
graphs will show a kind of a decrease

1080
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,780
when we had the gel up and we had that

1081
00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:50,460
we definitely had a decrease in the

1082
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:52,980
amount of thefts and larceny and kind of

1083
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:55,160
the livability issues this the low level

1084
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,540
crimes misdemeanor offenses that were

1085
00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:59,040
going on

1086
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,140
um so because they didn't want to go to

1087
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:02,339
11 in jail they didn't want to go to

1088
00:45:02,339 --> 00:45:04,140
jail so and we were able to hold them

1089
00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:06,660
accountable but without that without

1090
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:09,660
that useful tool in Lebanon is extremely

1091
00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:11,819
unique or one of the very few

1092
00:45:11,819 --> 00:45:14,280
municipalities that has the capability

1093
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,359
and has a jail and lebanon's gel is by

1094
00:45:18,359 --> 00:45:21,359
far one of the best gels in the state

1095
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:23,760
far as municipality wise goes if you've

1096
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,680
gone around and toured other ones we

1097
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,240
have the most state-of-the-art equipment

1098
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,599
and and it's set up perfectly

1099
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,819
if we only had the Personnel to run it

1100
00:45:32,819 --> 00:45:35,160
so it also helped with the homeless I'm

1101
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,540
just I'm just want to be on record that

1102
00:45:36,540 --> 00:45:38,400
I'd support it might be a heavy lift but

1103
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
I'm I'm behind lifting it if we can

1104
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,339
yeah I'm sorry I did yeah I was I I

1105
00:45:44,339 --> 00:45:47,220
he'll support you too I figured you

1106
00:45:47,220 --> 00:45:49,800
would yeah absolutely Chief you you said

1107
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,079
were seven or you've hired seven

1108
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,260
officers with their recent hire where

1109
00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:57,420
does that put it is that seventh

1110
00:45:57,420 --> 00:46:00,300
position fully staffed as far as sworn

1111
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:04,500
officers uh no I need two more two more

1112
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,480
and then I'll be fully staffed this is

1113
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,480
the does the budget for 23 24 account

1114
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,020
for two more yes yeah that the budget

1115
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:14,640
will give us fully a fully staffed

1116
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,560
Police Department right yeah that will

1117
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,359
give me 42 total employees correct yeah

1118
00:46:20,359 --> 00:46:23,640
okay I have a question so um actually

1119
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,680
two questions first uh looking at the

1120
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,180
types of crimes per year I've seen

1121
00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:29,400
narcotics is down is this is kind of a

1122
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,660
leading question but is that due to

1123
00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:34,800
measure 110. that is a 100 reflection of

1124
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,480
measure 110.

1125
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,000
um where drugs and narcotics are very

1126
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,920
prevalent in our community there's not a lot that we can do with that um

1127
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,319
there's it's not a it basically is not a

1128
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:49,020
crime you get a a citation that you

1129
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:50,400
don't have to appear in and don't have

1130
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,380
to pay for so yes to answer the question

1131
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:56,040
it's gone down because it's basically no

1132
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,660
longer criminalized

1133
00:46:57,660 --> 00:47:00,960
okay which is a very sad sad thing I

1134
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,760
agree I agree

1135
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,980
um the the second question is uh looking

1136
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:07,619
at the types of crimes crimes I guess it

1137
00:47:07,619 --> 00:47:10,500
says mental um and that clearly has like

1138
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:12,540
a a pretty huge Spike there it looks

1139
00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:14,220
like almost 200.

1140
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:15,180
um

1141
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:18,660
how how are how is

1142
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:20,220
how are the police officers equipped to

1143
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:22,619
deal or to work through a mental health

1144
00:47:22,619 --> 00:47:25,740
call Art um especially now that we're

1145
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:27,720
going to have you know seven seven new

1146
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,280
people I just want to make sure that

1147
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,140
they're receiving what they need to to

1148
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:33,720
answer those particularly challenging

1149
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:36,180
calls I imagine yeah so there is

1150
00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:38,339
training that's out there available

1151
00:47:38,339 --> 00:47:42,900
um that we try to send the officers to try to equip them with the most tools

1152
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:44,280
that they can have when it comes to

1153
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,500
dealing with mental health but no matter

1154
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:49,380
how much training that we provide them

1155
00:47:49,380 --> 00:47:50,880
they're still not going to be that

1156
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,619
individual or they're not going to have

1157
00:47:52,619 --> 00:47:56,339
the expertise to to do so so but we do

1158
00:47:56,339 --> 00:47:59,819
train them to the best we can on

1159
00:47:59,819 --> 00:48:02,880
um you'll notice also within the there

1160
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,440
was materials and services under

1161
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,599
training we did have to reduce some of

1162
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:07,500
that

1163
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:10,380
um training that is specialized that

1164
00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:12,119
specialize what we consider specialized

1165
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,119
training is mental health

1166
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:16,500
dealing with the mentally health uh

1167
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,780
individuals so

1168
00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:20,339
um so we're going to have to figure out

1169
00:48:20,339 --> 00:48:23,520
other ways in other avenues we do rely

1170
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,240
heavily on Lane County Mental Health so

1171
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,160
they they do offer some some trainees

1172
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,200
and they do have Outreach but

1173
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,260
unfortunately like the rest of society

1174
00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:35,579
they had a hard time trying to fill

1175
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:37,500
positions and trying to get people up

1176
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:38,700
and trained and trying to get an

1177
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:40,260
Outreach team together

1178
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:42,540
there's there's a few and there's very

1179
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:44,819
few and far between their servicing Lane

1180
00:48:44,819 --> 00:48:47,339
County and there's I think four of them

1181
00:48:47,339 --> 00:48:50,160
so wow yeah

1182
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,560
I'd like to come back and ask the chief

1183
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,960
uh I I thought councilor steinhabel

1184
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,160
asked a really good question about

1185
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,839
narcotics arrests the flip side of that

1186
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:03,720
ballpark increased use of Narcan oh

1187
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:06,660
because I I know that that has been and

1188
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:09,359
is an ongoing issue yeah

1189
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,040
um Narcan is I don't know if you guys

1190
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,520
are familiar with what Narcan does okay

1191
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,160
um but yeah we we've definitely since

1192
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,980
measure 110 has passed we've had a very

1193
00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:22,619
steady increase on the usage of officers

1194
00:49:22,619 --> 00:49:24,859
responding to

1195
00:49:24,859 --> 00:49:27,060
individuals who are unresponsive

1196
00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:30,960
overdosing and have increased our usage

1197
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,780
of of use using Narcan

1198
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:37,859
so uh and that's it's it's it's it's not

1199
00:49:37,859 --> 00:49:39,900
uncommon for it's a weekly occurrence

1200
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:42,119
but the nasal spray I assume it's the

1201
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:45,060
name yeah it's nasal spray and we occur

1202
00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:48,060
the incur that cost then as yeah right

1203
00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:49,319
now we don't

1204
00:49:49,319 --> 00:49:51,780
um it's kind of paid for already but um

1205
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:54,060
there's gonna come a time when that's

1206
00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:55,560
also going to be something that we need

1207
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,420
to budget in

1208
00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:59,700
um so increase in drug use increases

1209
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:02,040
that overdoses so

1210
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,099
I know we see them uh the police come by

1211
00:50:05,099 --> 00:50:09,000
the soup kitchen probably once a week we

1212
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,240
get the mentally unstable individuals

1213
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,520
every day

1214
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,040
um and I when watching them you could

1215
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,200
tell they're trained and basically about

1216
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,500
all they can do really is de-escalate

1217
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:24,780
the folks and kind of move them along

1218
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:27,599
there's not a lot of options unless they

1219
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:29,579
uh act out

1220
00:50:29,579 --> 00:50:32,819
and I know we've started the Narcan

1221
00:50:32,819 --> 00:50:34,740
thanks to the police over at this over

1222
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:36,240
at the soup kitchen

1223
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,119
and we've had to use it over there as

1224
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,920
they come in for males we get the same

1225
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,680
thing it's a lot more common

1226
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,020
it's a shame that my Cooks have to learn

1227
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:48,000
how to be Lifesavers

1228
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,030
but that's the reality of where we're at

1229
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,240
yeah

1230
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,040
well I'm just going to add

1231
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,260
um that I just want to say thank you to

1232
00:50:58,260 --> 00:51:00,119
you and the police department especially

1233
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,520
the admin team of course the officers as

1234
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,380
well but I know over this last year

1235
00:51:04,380 --> 00:51:06,839
things have been challenging and you've

1236
00:51:06,839 --> 00:51:10,500
had to fill in for doing a patrol and as

1237
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,780
well as the other like the lieutenants

1238
00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:15,540
and certainly Captain Hyde even just the

1239
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:16,859
other night we had a very busy council

1240
00:51:16,859 --> 00:51:18,180
meeting and I saw the two lieutenants

1241
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:19,319
here so

1242
00:51:19,319 --> 00:51:20,460
um

1243
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:23,880
just thank you for for your persistence

1244
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,780
and uh in trying to get us fully staffed

1245
00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:30,300
so thank you I appreciate it yeah it's

1246
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:31,440
definitely been here we had a call with

1247
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,400
you this morning and you were right

1248
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,260
there at Linco thank you well I wasn't

1249
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:36,059
but I would have been John but I wasn't

1250
00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:38,700
well I would say if you call them if you

1251
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,140
call them with a stolen vehicle it's

1252
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,240
shift change

1253
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,359
um you'll get a real good response and

1254
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:46,980
you'll get the chief calling you from

1255
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:49,980
around the corner hey where you at

1256
00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:52,619
so yeah I I have to say and this is

1257
00:51:52,619 --> 00:51:55,740
probably in my in my career uh this last

1258
00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:57,240
past year and a half has probably been

1259
00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:59,460
one of the most challenging that I've

1260
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:02,460
ever faced um not only looking at it

1261
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:04,619
from a patrol officer's perspective but

1262
00:52:04,619 --> 00:52:07,500
also from my own Chief's perspective

1263
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,839
um it has been extremely challenging

1264
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:13,680
with low Staffing levels and but the men

1265
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,260
and women of your Police Department

1266
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:19,500
um and they're doing an exceptional job

1267
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:22,140
with what they have up in front of them

1268
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:23,700
and what they're dealing with sometimes

1269
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:25,020
just two of them

1270
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,460
I'm out there patrolling the city with

1271
00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:30,839
19976 population I think that's the

1272
00:52:30,839 --> 00:52:34,980
number but to say that uh

1273
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:37,680
um that's when it it's definitely been a

1274
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,319
challenge so but they're doing an

1275
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:42,540
exceptional job

1276
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:45,059
okay any other questions

1277
00:52:45,059 --> 00:52:48,240
well I I will make my pitch again like I

1278
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,059
do almost every meeting go out and get

1279
00:52:51,059 --> 00:52:53,400
with Chief and go out and ride go see

1280
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,500
what they do in person you'd just be

1281
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:58,140
amazed at the stuff that they split from

1282
00:52:58,140 --> 00:53:01,079
switch to switch when the calls come in

1283
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,380
thanks Frank get that

1284
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:08,339
okay next would be Senior Center Kendra

1285
00:53:08,339 --> 00:53:16,390
Oliver

1286
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,380
good afternoon

1287
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:21,059
um I'll I guess I'll start with the

1288
00:53:21,059 --> 00:53:22,260
senior center

1289
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:25,140
um it's on page 48 if you wanted to

1290
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:27,180
follow along

1291
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:30,079
um just hit some highlights here we have

1292
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:33,720
2.25 FTE in the senior center budget

1293
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:38,160
it's 0.75 for the director position and

1294
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,680
actually a good chunk of that is used

1295
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,400
for match for the lynx Transit program

1296
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,099
for one of our federal grants

1297
00:53:47,099 --> 00:53:50,400
we have a full-time activities uh

1298
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,859
coordinator position which Nancy uh

1299
00:53:52,859 --> 00:53:55,980
spoke of earlier and then we also have a

1300
00:53:55,980 --> 00:53:58,500
0.5 shared position it's a it's a

1301
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:00,660
full-time position but 0.5 is in the

1302
00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:03,240
senior center and point five is in the

1303
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,160
transit fund and that's for a

1304
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,720
coordinator position that helps kind of

1305
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,460
see daily operations for both

1306
00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:11,880
departments a couple of highlights uh

1307
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,800
this coming fiscal year in the budget

1308
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,240
there is 25 000 in revenue for two older

1309
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,180
Americans act funds grants

1310
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:22,859
um one is for fifteen thousand dollars

1311
00:54:22,859 --> 00:54:24,480
for the evidence-based programs that

1312
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,119
Nancy touched on earlier it's research

1313
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:29,880
based that if seniors come partake two

1314
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,400
to three times a week for 45 to 60

1315
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,619
minutes of exercise

1316
00:54:34,619 --> 00:54:36,839
for eight to twelve weeks some research

1317
00:54:36,839 --> 00:54:39,000
shows that they have increased Mobility

1318
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,520
increased muscle strength greater

1319
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,339
balance and so on

1320
00:54:44,339 --> 00:54:46,319
um we did have a grant for

1321
00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:48,359
evidence-based programs this fiscal year

1322
00:54:48,359 --> 00:54:51,440
this current year we received 8 500

1323
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,780
we to date we have implemented two

1324
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,660
classes and we're kicking off a third

1325
00:54:57,660 --> 00:54:59,819
evidence-based program in June it's a

1326
00:54:59,819 --> 00:55:02,220
walk with these program it's been very

1327
00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:04,740
successful so we're very pleased that

1328
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:06,119
when we applied for these grants for

1329
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:07,980
next fiscal year that they gave us a

1330
00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:10,800
little bit of a bump in funding so we'll

1331
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,660
be looking at other programs that we can

1332
00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:13,980
offer as well

1333
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:16,559
we also received a grant for ten

1334
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,540
thousand dollars for an iPad purchase

1335
00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:21,359
through older Americans act funds this

1336
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:23,520
is to help address the loneliness and

1337
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,059
combat isolation help keep seniors

1338
00:55:27,059 --> 00:55:31,200
um in touch with family through Facebook

1339
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,559
Zoom email whatever the case may be so

1340
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,900
we have some plans to put that Grant to

1341
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:40,079
good use as a result I mean we'll see a

1342
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:41,400
slight increase in materials and

1343
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,260
services which is directly related to

1344
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:46,260
receiving these funds it's about twenty

1345
00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:47,640
thousand dollars in materials and

1346
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,160
services and then the other five

1347
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,540
thousand dollars that we'll be receiving

1348
00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:55,260
will go toward helping offset staff time

1349
00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:59,700
for instructing those classes

1350
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:01,319
um Nancy also touched that we're you

1351
00:56:01,319 --> 00:56:03,180
know getting closer to our pre-covered

1352
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:04,319
numbers

1353
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:06,780
um one thing I like to say is um you

1354
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:08,160
know when people think of senior centers

1355
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,140
they think oh yep people come to play

1356
00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:12,780
Bingo that's a lot of fun and but you

1357
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:15,300
know we are we are more than Bingo we do

1358
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:16,680
put a lot of thought into our

1359
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,720
programming we actually have seven Focus

1360
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:20,760
areas and we try to offer a wide array

1361
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,980
of programming again Nancy touched on

1362
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:25,200
some of those things we do

1363
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,760
um you know we put our newsletter out

1364
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,300
there on Facebook and on our City

1365
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:32,520
website I could go on and on and on

1366
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,260
about the programming but I'll try to

1367
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:36,720
work through all the information

1368
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:37,559
um

1369
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:39,420
Cascades West Council of governments

1370
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:41,700
uses our space in the senior center we

1371
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:43,940
have a large kitchen area

1372
00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:48,119
they this year they will provide almost

1373
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:51,300
40 000 meals two seniors in our

1374
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:54,839
community that's both in-house we have a

1375
00:56:54,839 --> 00:56:56,700
meal site at the senior center and they

1376
00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:59,400
also deliver Meals on Wheels and that's

1377
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,339
about over just over 160 meals each

1378
00:57:02,339 --> 00:57:06,119
weekday that that they're providing

1379
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:09,380
um I have a a couple pages of

1380
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:11,940
unsolicited testimonials I'll spare you

1381
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:13,200
on that as well I'm happy to share it

1382
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,819
with Nancy and can push it out but

1383
00:57:14,819 --> 00:57:16,680
really really

1384
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,780
um a lot of great things that our senior

1385
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:21,140
center staff and Link staff are doing

1386
00:57:21,140 --> 00:57:25,559
making some invaluable connections and

1387
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:28,200
helping people age healthy and live

1388
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,000
independently as long as they possibly

1389
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,940
can our staff's doing some great stuff

1390
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:35,160
but again I can share that with Nancy so

1391
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:40,020
you guys can see some of the things that people said some of it's really

1392
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:42,300
tugs at your heartstrings

1393
00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:45,180
um so with that I can move on to Transit

1394
00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:46,380
if you'd like unless somebody has

1395
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:47,940
specific questions about the senior

1396
00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:48,660
center

1397
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:51,900
just don't don't diss Bingo come on

1398
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:55,800
right no no so we were meeting in our

1399
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,180
heritage room

1400
00:57:57,180 --> 00:57:59,160
um and we actually had to move it down

1401
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,260
into our Auditorium because the group

1402
00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:02,940
has gotten so large

1403
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:04,380
um you can't get around with the Walkers

1404
00:58:04,380 --> 00:58:06,420
and wheelchairs so

1405
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:07,800
um at any rate we just did that a few

1406
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,619
weeks ago so yes don't don't diss the

1407
00:58:10,619 --> 00:58:12,359
bingo bingo is fun

1408
00:58:12,359 --> 00:58:14,220
it is

1409
00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:17,220
okay so we'll move on to Transit

1410
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:20,819
um Pages 86 and 87. uh a couple of

1411
00:58:20,819 --> 00:58:22,500
highlights that I'll mention

1412
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:23,880
um I think I did include this in a

1413
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,079
manager report but I'll go ahead and

1414
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:27,960
mention it again uh every three four

1415
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,220
years

1416
00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:30,960
um each Transit provider in the state of

1417
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,300
Oregon is required to go through and

1418
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:36,000
audit with ODOT so it's a complimentary

1419
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,619
audit just to make sure that we're in

1420
00:58:37,619 --> 00:58:39,660
compliance with everything we have a lot

1421
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:41,819
of policies in place and you know things

1422
00:58:41,819 --> 00:58:45,540
are Ever Changing uh so ODOT and their

1423
00:58:45,540 --> 00:58:47,220
Consultants came down to take a look at

1424
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:49,859
our operations they looked at our Ada

1425
00:58:49,859 --> 00:58:51,540
policy and operations they looked at our

1426
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:53,160
operations manual they looked at our

1427
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,500
title VI policies which includes you

1428
00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:57,299
know LEP

1429
00:58:57,299 --> 00:58:59,760
um they looked at our financial policies

1430
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,619
Brandon helped out with that a bit

1431
00:59:01,619 --> 00:59:04,140
looked at our procurement policy some of

1432
00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:05,940
our recent purchases vehicle maintenance

1433
00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:08,220
and they only had a few recommendations

1434
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:10,500
for us to make in our regional transit

1435
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,540
coordinator at the our regional transit

1436
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:14,280
coordinator at ODOT at the time said

1437
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,960
that was the fewest number of

1438
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,299
recommendations that you know they had

1439
00:59:18,299 --> 00:59:20,640
ever seen as they had been going through

1440
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,020
uh other

1441
00:59:22,020 --> 00:59:24,180
audit processes so

1442
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:26,700
we're pretty pleased with that

1443
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,819
um another highlight we have a new low

1444
00:59:29,819 --> 00:59:33,059
no emissions Fleet transition plan

1445
00:59:33,059 --> 00:59:35,460
um we did apply for funding for an

1446
00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:38,280
electric van of course Oregon and you'll

1447
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,780
see this you know Across the Nation

1448
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:41,280
where you know we're trying to reduce

1449
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,280
carbon emissions so we do have a plan in

1450
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,839
place it doesn't mean with each and

1451
00:59:45,839 --> 00:59:47,400
every new bus that we're purchasing it's

1452
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,920
going to be an electric vehicle we have

1453
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,960
one van and we have eight cutaway

1454
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,480
Vehicles the Cutaway vehicles are more

1455
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,299
difficult to find

1456
00:59:56,299 --> 00:59:59,339
you know an electric form so as they

1457
00:59:59,339 --> 01:00:01,079
become more available as funding is

1458
01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:04,619
available that will be a priority for us

1459
01:00:04,619 --> 01:00:06,540
um at any rate we do have that plan it

1460
01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:08,099
was a requirement

1461
01:00:08,099 --> 01:00:12,960
um for applying for that for that Grant

1462
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,579
um a couple other highlights and I'm

1463
01:00:14,579 --> 01:00:16,380
sure you've read this in department

1464
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:19,079
manager reports last fiscal year we were

1465
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:21,780
over just over 30 000 rides which was a

1466
01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:24,380
36 increase over any other fiscal year

1467
01:00:24,380 --> 01:00:27,359
this fiscal year we will probably hit

1468
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:31,920
the 48 000 ride Mark which is a 59

1469
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,099
increase over the last fiscal year

1470
01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:38,760
um crazy so um you know part of that is

1471
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,380
uh because we started the Brownsville

1472
01:00:40,380 --> 01:00:42,780
connector last June

1473
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:44,940
um that service runs two days a week

1474
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:48,359
runs five Loops to Brownsville and back

1475
01:00:48,359 --> 01:00:50,220
um it has been well received the numbers

1476
01:00:50,220 --> 01:00:51,540
are growing we're getting regular

1477
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:52,980
writers from Brownsville it's a great

1478
01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:55,020
service it's something that the Lynn

1479
01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:56,880
County Transit advisory advisory

1480
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,740
committee has talked about for a number

1481
01:00:58,740 --> 01:01:01,500
of years it's filling in the gaps uh you

1482
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:04,380
know an unmet need in our community so

1483
01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:06,720
it's going very well

1484
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,920
um

1485
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,940
we are also still not charging fares and

1486
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:13,680
that's something that a lot of Transit

1487
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,299
providers

1488
01:01:15,299 --> 01:01:18,359
um have been doing since covet hit we

1489
01:01:18,359 --> 01:01:20,099
started collecting or excuse me we've

1490
01:01:20,099 --> 01:01:22,200
stopped collecting fares and passes just

1491
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,720
because of covid and a lot of the

1492
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,339
providers have still just kind of hung

1493
01:01:26,339 --> 01:01:28,619
on to that as a matter of fact Albany

1494
01:01:28,619 --> 01:01:30,660
just announced a week ago a week and a

1495
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:32,480
half ago that they're not gonna

1496
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,339
reinstate collecting fares

1497
01:01:35,339 --> 01:01:36,839
our thought behind this then with

1498
01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:38,339
talking with Nancy

1499
01:01:38,339 --> 01:01:41,700
um and ODOT is we will revisit the fair

1500
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:44,819
structure when we look at expanding our

1501
01:01:44,819 --> 01:01:46,740
Loop service that's our deviated fixed

1502
01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:49,680
route service right now we have a loop

1503
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,059
service that runs through town it stops

1504
01:01:51,059 --> 01:01:53,099
at Walmart and Safeway and has seven

1505
01:01:53,099 --> 01:01:56,780
stops in town we do nine Loops a day

1506
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:58,859
that's our most efficient mode of

1507
01:01:58,859 --> 01:02:00,780
service our other services demand

1508
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:02,460
response and we have four or five

1509
01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:04,260
vehicles out every day picking people up

1510
01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:06,359
going to their homes of course we do

1511
01:02:06,359 --> 01:02:07,740
group people and you know get them to

1512
01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:10,140
medical appointments or shopping but

1513
01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:12,240
again the deviated fixed route is our

1514
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,400
most efficient mode of service so it

1515
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,079
just kind of makes sense you know if we

1516
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:17,700
were to expand that service maybe have

1517
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:19,680
an East and a West Loop

1518
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,059
um you know then the demand on demand

1519
01:02:21,059 --> 01:02:22,920
response will go down a little bit

1520
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,420
um at any rate that's when we'll look at

1521
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:25,799
that fair structure to see what makes

1522
01:02:25,799 --> 01:02:27,000
the most sense

1523
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,480
and if we want to reinstate it or what

1524
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,119
we want to do there

1525
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:36,540
um regarding budget for Transit you'll

1526
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:37,740
see things

1527
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:39,240
um Revenue side and obviously expense

1528
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,559
side or a little bit higher we have

1529
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,960
quite a few Capital

1530
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,240
um purchases and a larger Capital

1531
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,680
project in our in our budget this year

1532
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,119
um just kind of looking at Revenue I

1533
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:52,440
thought maybe it would be helpful to do

1534
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,299
just a bit of a breakdown to see you

1535
01:02:54,299 --> 01:02:55,680
know between federal and state grants

1536
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,640
what that funding is comprised of

1537
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,980
about 187 000 are federal grants for

1538
01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:04,079
operations

1539
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:06,720
um that includes our 5311 Grant cares

1540
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,160
act fund

1541
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,440
um some funding to address cobit 19.

1542
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,299
um we have 848 000 for operations all of

1543
01:03:18,299 --> 01:03:19,740
this funding is through the Statewide

1544
01:03:19,740 --> 01:03:22,619
Transportation Improvement fund

1545
01:03:22,619 --> 01:03:26,760
um that is House Bill 2017 which when

1546
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,319
they implemented the point zero one

1547
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:30,240
percent payroll tax for anybody who

1548
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,460
works in the state of Oregon and it was

1549
01:03:32,460 --> 01:03:34,680
designated specifically for new and

1550
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,780
enhanced transportation service it

1551
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:38,760
couldn't you know take over anything

1552
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,839
that we were doing previously so 677

1553
01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:45,359
000 of that is for our Loop deviated

1554
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:48,420
fixed route our Saturday service our

1555
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,000
expanded hours are serving up to five

1556
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,920
miles outside City Limits which includes

1557
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,440
the communities of Waterloo sodaville

1558
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,059
and Crabtree

1559
01:03:57,059 --> 01:03:58,500
um it includes a hundred and two

1560
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:00,839
thousand dollars for serving outlying

1561
01:04:00,839 --> 01:04:02,940
communities and that was when I spoke to

1562
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:04,380
the Brownsville connector piece that's

1563
01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:07,079
what that is slated for and then there's

1564
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:09,960
69 000 for operations and that's the

1565
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,220
population

1566
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:14,579
um based piece of the Statewide

1567
01:04:14,579 --> 01:04:16,500
Transportation Improvement funds

1568
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:18,420
kind of a mouthful

1569
01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:20,099
um twenty thousand dollars as a Federal

1570
01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:22,380
grant for preventive maintenance

1571
01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:25,079
um for our vehicles

1572
01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:26,400
um four hundred and ninety thousand

1573
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,500
dollars in federal grants for Capital

1574
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:30,720
purchases which includes an electric van

1575
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,540
a cutaway vehicle some dispatching

1576
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:36,240
software and improvements to our park

1577
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,920
and Oak stop

1578
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,420
the bus stop that we share with the

1579
01:04:39,420 --> 01:04:41,760
Lynch shuttle I'll stop let's pause for

1580
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,060
the train

1581
01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:46,380
[Music]

1582
01:04:46,380 --> 01:04:48,470
they knew we were here so they came by

1583
01:04:48,470 --> 01:05:07,370
[Music]

1584
01:05:07,380 --> 01:05:15,650
it's a real trainers

1585
01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:23,650
Petticoat Junction

1586
01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:26,220
this one's a real train

1587
01:05:26,220 --> 01:05:30,910
foreign

1588
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:38,210
having three cars

1589
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:41,640
okay all right let's pick it up again

1590
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,700
thank you for the pause of course

1591
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:47,339
um in Revenue just a couple more uh

1592
01:05:47,339 --> 01:05:48,900
things to mention four hundred and

1593
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:51,299
twenty six thousand dollars in Statewide

1594
01:05:51,299 --> 01:05:52,859
Transportation Improvement fund

1595
01:05:52,859 --> 01:05:55,079
discretionary grants so that was a

1596
01:05:55,079 --> 01:05:57,059
competitive process um anybody in Oregon

1597
01:05:57,059 --> 01:06:00,420
wanted to apply for and that is for

1598
01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:03,180
um improvements actually to be moving

1599
01:06:03,180 --> 01:06:05,460
our Fleet to the maintenance shops we're

1600
01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:06,720
currently

1601
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,940
um at the police department that the

1602
01:06:08,940 --> 01:06:10,680
Justice Center parking lot

1603
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,240
um we've been outgrowing that space for

1604
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,799
some time and certainly the police

1605
01:06:13,799 --> 01:06:16,020
department could use the space that were

1606
01:06:16,020 --> 01:06:17,760
you we've been utilizing since they

1607
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,440
opened up

1608
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,339
um so that will provide funding for site

1609
01:06:23,339 --> 01:06:26,160
work Paving a shop door pit work for

1610
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,220
working on the vehicles uh and conduit

1611
01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:32,339
for a future phase two at some point in

1612
01:06:32,339 --> 01:06:34,680
time when we're looking at Electrify you

1613
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,359
know starting that process to Electrify

1614
01:06:36,359 --> 01:06:38,220
our Fleet we'll have the conduit in

1615
01:06:38,220 --> 01:06:41,099
place to make that happen

1616
01:06:41,099 --> 01:06:43,680
um it also includes 136 000

1617
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,200
um dollars in again Statewide

1618
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,240
Transportation Improvement funds for

1619
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,700
match for that secure parking and also

1620
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:54,359
match for the dispatch software and um

1621
01:06:54,359 --> 01:06:56,760
just just a side note there

1622
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,099
um we do have a meeting on June 1st with

1623
01:06:59,099 --> 01:07:01,500
the Linn County transportation advisory

1624
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:02,819
committee

1625
01:07:02,819 --> 01:07:06,000
um and they will be reviewing and

1626
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,760
approving allocations for all providers

1627
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,819
in Linn County so that 136 thousand

1628
01:07:11,819 --> 01:07:12,720
dollars

1629
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,880
um in this budget we're hopefully going

1630
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,589
to get that approved on June 1st

1631
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:19,980
um and then of course just kind of going

1632
01:07:19,980 --> 01:07:21,720
through all the revenue kind of makes

1633
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,339
sense what's going to be on the expense

1634
01:07:23,339 --> 01:07:24,599
side of things for some of those capital

1635
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:26,400
projects

1636
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,559
um and that kind of wraps it up for

1637
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:29,940
Transit I don't know if anybody has any

1638
01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:33,960
questions about Transit I know it's

1639
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,140
a it's a breathtaking Endeavor I I do

1640
01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:38,280
have one

1641
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,619
um so a lot of a lot of grant money is

1642
01:07:40,619 --> 01:07:43,260
coming in and is has been coming in

1643
01:07:43,260 --> 01:07:47,700
since 21. how much of that do we rely on

1644
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:49,799
to actually operate and how much of it

1645
01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:51,420
is

1646
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:53,700
um just like expanding what we have

1647
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:56,220
already like if if Nick I say next year

1648
01:07:56,220 --> 01:07:59,520
we have zero grant money or what what's

1649
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,740
the situation then

1650
01:08:01,740 --> 01:08:03,480
um so the really nice thing is that the

1651
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,859
Statewide Transportation Improvement

1652
01:08:04,859 --> 01:08:07,079
funds are relatively stable of course

1653
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:08,819
what does that mean there's never any

1654
01:08:08,819 --> 01:08:10,619
guarantee of course

1655
01:08:10,619 --> 01:08:12,720
um so when I was kind of breaking down

1656
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,119
those funds um the federal funds I'm

1657
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:16,440
going off top of my head now because I

1658
01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:19,440
have a million papers here but yeah um

1659
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,839
5311 funding we've had that funding in

1660
01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:23,640
place since I started with the city back

1661
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,880
in 2003 2004.

1662
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,100
um that funding is allocated each year I

1663
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:31,799
believe there are 35 providers it's for

1664
01:08:31,799 --> 01:08:33,839
Rural Transportation

1665
01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:35,819
um so ODOT gets an allocation each year

1666
01:08:35,819 --> 01:08:37,920
and then they look at number of rides

1667
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,420
number of miles

1668
01:08:39,420 --> 01:08:42,120
um and then they put those numbers in

1669
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,219
there and then they determine who gets

1670
01:08:44,219 --> 01:08:46,140
what okay allocated so it's a pretty

1671
01:08:46,140 --> 01:08:47,940
stable funding source that we can almost

1672
01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:51,420
count on every year at least it is

1673
01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:54,960
and given our in ridership and revenue miles and

1674
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,699
revenue hours

1675
01:08:56,699 --> 01:08:59,520
um that funding I mean should just it

1676
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:00,779
should go up

1677
01:09:00,779 --> 01:09:02,640
okay thank you yeah

1678
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,799
you're welcome I have a question and

1679
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:06,960
maybe you you're the one to answer and

1680
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,160
I'm not sure

1681
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,400
but you just said something rural

1682
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,739
I have the same question I think yeah

1683
01:09:13,739 --> 01:09:15,000
now

1684
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,179
if we break twenty thousand oh certain

1685
01:09:18,179 --> 01:09:21,120
things changed but I know they don't

1686
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,020
change in every single category so does

1687
01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:27,540
it affect you like it would affect over

1688
01:09:27,540 --> 01:09:30,900
here it for for transportation right

1689
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:33,660
it's 50 000 when you become then a

1690
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:35,819
metropolitan planning organization okay

1691
01:09:35,819 --> 01:09:38,819
right and then you move out of 53 11 to

1692
01:09:38,819 --> 01:09:40,440
53 10. so we have a little bit of a

1693
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:45,430
buffer we got years

1694
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:48,600
a lot of you guys won't be around

1695
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,380
um

1696
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:53,520
I attended a um a County Commission

1697
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,660
meeting where you guys were talking

1698
01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:58,739
about writers per I mean there's there's

1699
01:09:58,739 --> 01:10:01,260
a measurement for uh four different

1700
01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:03,420
systems can you like address that just

1701
01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:06,300
in a brief sure well we have different

1702
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:07,980
performance measures so you know there's

1703
01:10:07,980 --> 01:10:09,780
cost per mile there's cost per Revenue

1704
01:10:09,780 --> 01:10:12,300
hour there's cost per ride

1705
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:13,980
um you know for example if you and I do

1706
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:16,440
have them broken out between our loop

1707
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:18,120
system our demand response system and

1708
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,159
our Brownsville connector system so if

1709
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:21,540
you're looking at Brownsville connector

1710
01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:23,340
I mean average

1711
01:10:23,340 --> 01:10:27,360
um trip is what 13 14 miles so you know

1712
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,840
those those trips are more expensive

1713
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,640
um and then you look at our other

1714
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,520
systems and the deviated fixer up comes

1715
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,500
in a little bit less than our demand

1716
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:41,699
response but you know it is 18 19 20 22

1717
01:10:41,699 --> 01:10:45,300
dollars per ride that's the actual cost

1718
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:48,360
you know all in for providing

1719
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,300
Transportation but that seems I mean it

1720
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:54,000
seems like a lot but it seemed like

1721
01:10:54,000 --> 01:12:53,890
there were a lot of systems that were

1722
01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:57,780
our drivers they are so personable so

1723
01:12:57,780 --> 01:12:59,520
friendly and generally care about the

1724
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,800
people that we're serving and I I just

1725
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,020
feel so good about that they do a

1726
01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:06,120
fabulous job they come by the soup

1727
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,100
kitchen every Monday Wednesday and

1728
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:09,900
Friday just like clockwork because we

1729
01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:11,400
have the same folks they know who to

1730
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,920
pick up know where to take them know how

1731
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,600
to pick them up because everybody has a

1732
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,640
little different need and it's wonderful

1733
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,860
it's a great service thanks for saying

1734
01:13:19,860 --> 01:13:22,679
so thank you thank you

1735
01:13:22,679 --> 01:13:24,300
okay

1736
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:32,410
we want to get into yeah

1737
01:13:32,420 --> 01:13:34,980
okay why don't we take a 10-minute break

1738
01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:40,550
let Brent get a hold of our

1739
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:45,229
do it

1740
01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:48,669
oh my God

1741
01:13:48,679 --> 01:13:50,820
my back hurts

1742
01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:52,800
I jumped out through the airplanes and

1743
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,659
it's

1744
01:13:54,659 --> 01:13:57,540
I have bone on Bones so

1745
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:01,209
yeah not a fun thing

1746
01:14:01,219 --> 01:14:16,430
riveting so excited

1747
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:19,800
so I just uh

1748
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,239
successful

1749
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:25,739
some young Christian Oriental gal wanted

1750
01:14:25,739 --> 01:14:29,770
to fall in love with him

1751
01:14:29,780 --> 01:14:40,130
I don't know who you don't want to know

1752
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:42,970
yeah

1753
01:14:42,980 --> 01:14:45,840
I don't think too many of them anymore I

1754
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:54,189
did it possible

1755
01:14:54,199 --> 01:15:02,709
what's going on with it

1756
01:15:02,719 --> 01:15:04,860
that one there I just pulled up on it

1757
01:15:04,860 --> 01:24:03,970
okay

1758
01:24:03,980 --> 01:24:07,560
I am told we're back on the air okay

1759
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,300
good to go

1760
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:12,120
all right next will be com Community

1761
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,219
Development Kelly Hart hi everybody

1762
01:24:14,219 --> 01:24:18,480
thank you Kelly thank you uh so I'm uh

1763
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:19,500
the community development director

1764
01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:21,360
obviously uh the Community Development

1765
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:22,920
Department is made up of three different

1766
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,199
divisions the planning building and

1767
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:27,120
Economic Development Division

1768
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,980
in total the budget for the Department

1769
01:24:28,980 --> 01:24:30,780
is just over a million dollars

1770
01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:32,880
distributed over four different funds

1771
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,219
and the vast majority of the budget is

1772
01:24:35,219 --> 01:24:37,560
associated with salaries and benefits

1773
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,040
for the employees and so we have four

1774
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,780
full-time employees including myself

1775
01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:45,900
within the department and as part of our

1776
01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:48,719
building uh division we contract with a

1777
01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:50,880
building official for building official

1778
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,520
duties and inspection services

1779
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,800
uh so I'll just sort of run through each

1780
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,020
of the three divisions to give you some

1781
01:24:58,020 --> 01:24:59,699
highlights of what we do what we've done

1782
01:24:59,699 --> 01:25:01,080
and what we're looking forward to for

1783
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,560
the next year so the planning division

1784
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,540
provides current and long-range planning

1785
01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:09,060
services for the city uh the division is

1786
01:25:09,060 --> 01:25:11,460
responsible for on the current planning

1787
01:25:11,460 --> 01:25:14,100
side the processing of all land use and

1788
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,500
development proposals within the city

1789
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:18,179
uh to ensure that it meets the

1790
01:25:18,179 --> 01:25:20,040
Development Goal uh the development code

1791
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,199
and the goals of the comprehensive plan

1792
01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:25,800
in 2022 so last year we processed over

1793
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,440
50 land use permits

1794
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:30,659
um and that was a slight increase from

1795
01:25:30,659 --> 01:25:32,120
the year before

1796
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,699
and for the current year of 2023 and

1797
01:25:35,699 --> 01:25:38,159
into the next fiscal year we are

1798
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:40,800
expecting to see a bit of a decrease on

1799
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,239
the land use permits that are going to

1800
01:25:42,239 --> 01:25:44,460
be processed through our department and

1801
01:25:44,460 --> 01:25:46,980
that is largely due to the the cost

1802
01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:49,860
increases from inflation and

1803
01:25:49,860 --> 01:25:51,840
construction material delays as well as

1804
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,060
Workforce shortages so we are definitely

1805
01:25:54,060 --> 01:25:56,400
seeing a decrease in the number of big

1806
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,860
development applications and proposals

1807
01:25:58,860 --> 01:26:01,440
coming before us right now

1808
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:02,940
um the planning division on the current

1809
01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:05,280
side also process processes several

1810
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,380
over-the-counter permit applications

1811
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:10,340
such as fencing permits sign permits

1812
01:26:10,340 --> 01:26:13,560
accessory dwelling units and we also

1813
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,139
process new single-family homes as

1814
01:26:16,139 --> 01:26:18,060
over-the-counter permits as well so it

1815
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:20,480
doesn't require land use action

1816
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:23,340
uh we're also responsible for

1817
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:25,199
implementing the city's long-range

1818
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:27,239
vision for growth and that's our

1819
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:29,520
long-range planning process this is

1820
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:30,900
accomplished through the implementation

1821
01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:33,239
of the action items for the goals and

1822
01:26:33,239 --> 01:26:34,980
policies that are set forth in our

1823
01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:37,440
comprehensive plan and through all of

1824
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,040
the periodic updates we do to that plan

1825
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,500
starting last year we started to

1826
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:46,020
undertake two major updates to the

1827
01:26:46,020 --> 01:26:48,179
comprehensive plan with our housing

1828
01:26:48,179 --> 01:26:50,580
production strategy and The Economic

1829
01:26:50,580 --> 01:26:52,440
Opportunity analysis I'm not going to

1830
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:54,120
bore you all with that because you have

1831
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,440
seen it all over and over and over again

1832
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,120
but upon adoption by the city council

1833
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,940
for those two plans that does set up the

1834
01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:05,820
work plan for the planning Division and

1835
01:27:05,820 --> 01:27:08,159
The Economic Development Division for

1836
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:10,080
the next several years

1837
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,840
in addition we have seen quite the

1838
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,000
uptick in the state legislature

1839
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,980
regarding their interest in housing

1840
01:27:16,980 --> 01:27:20,280
production and land use regulation and

1841
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,560
it has been a major focus of theirs this

1842
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,260
last cycle and so we are anticipating

1843
01:27:25,260 --> 01:27:27,540
that through that legislation we will be

1844
01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:29,699
seeing an increase in workload regarding

1845
01:27:29,699 --> 01:27:31,860
additional reporting procedure

1846
01:27:31,860 --> 01:27:34,860
modifications and even possible code

1847
01:27:34,860 --> 01:27:37,260
modifications associated with that and

1848
01:27:37,260 --> 01:27:38,520
of course it has to be done on the

1849
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,980
state's timeline

1850
01:27:40,980 --> 01:27:43,080
um and there's no identified funding

1851
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,120
source as of yet for that additional

1852
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,440
work as well

1853
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:48,600
uh we also manage in the planning

1854
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,400
division the community event block grant

1855
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,219
program for the Lane County low low

1856
01:27:53,219 --> 01:27:56,219
income housing rehabilitation program

1857
01:27:56,219 --> 01:27:59,100
um it is budgeted for 150 000 for this

1858
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,920
next fiscal year but that is countered

1859
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,780
with a revenue Source through the

1860
01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:06,719
program as well and we contract with the

1861
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:10,020
dev Northwest to administer that program

1862
01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:14,040
for us or the fiduciary agent for that

1863
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,860
for our Building Division we provide

1864
01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:19,560
plan check review Services building

1865
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,840
permit issuance and inspection services

1866
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,659
through to our building permit final and

1867
01:28:24,659 --> 01:28:26,400
that is to ensure that all development

1868
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,139
in the city meets the building code

1869
01:28:28,139 --> 01:28:30,540
requirements for safe occupancy of our

1870
01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:32,520
residents and business owners

1871
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,860
to complete the building plan check and

1872
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:36,960
inspection services we employ a building

1873
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,360
official through a contract with

1874
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,400
Northwest code professionals

1875
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,739
this contract is the vast majority of

1876
01:28:43,739 --> 01:28:46,679
the building fund budgets along with a

1877
01:28:46,679 --> 01:28:48,719
portion of the salaries for Two permit

1878
01:28:48,719 --> 01:28:51,239
technicians that review the submittals

1879
01:28:51,239 --> 01:28:53,400
issue the permits and also maintain all

1880
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,320
of our permitting records

1881
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,280
last year the building division issued

1882
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,080
691 permits with a total project

1883
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,020
valuation of 40.6 million dollars of

1884
01:29:04,020 --> 01:29:06,239
improvement into the community

1885
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:09,600
uh in comparison to 2021 this was

1886
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,940
approximately a hundred less permits

1887
01:29:11,940 --> 01:29:13,920
that were issued over the entire year so

1888
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,800
a slight reduction but there's a pretty

1889
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,380
significant reduction in evaluation of

1890
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:22,199
projects by 30 million dollars this

1891
01:29:22,199 --> 01:29:23,639
basically provides you an indication

1892
01:29:23,639 --> 01:29:25,739
that work is still being done

1893
01:29:25,739 --> 01:29:27,540
construction is still being done but

1894
01:29:27,540 --> 01:29:29,880
there has been a shift there's not large

1895
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,560
construction projects that are being

1896
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,360
proposed over and over again it's a lot

1897
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,699
of the smaller projects so still the

1898
01:29:35,699 --> 01:29:37,980
workload maintains in the department but

1899
01:29:37,980 --> 01:29:40,440
less valuation and also when you have

1900
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:42,840
less valuation our permit fees are

1901
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,659
associated to evaluation so there's less

1902
01:29:45,659 --> 01:29:47,699
Revenue coming in for a similar amount

1903
01:29:47,699 --> 01:29:50,390
of work as well

1904
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,880
um and that's work is all done I have to

1905
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,560
do a shout out for our lovely permit

1906
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,440
text they have to we have 691 permits

1907
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,440
that are issued per the last year that

1908
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:03,480
usually equates to five or six or seven

1909
01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:05,340
phone calls per permit to make sure

1910
01:30:05,340 --> 01:30:07,620
everybody's in informed of what needs to

1911
01:30:07,620 --> 01:30:09,179
happen and the coordination associated

1912
01:30:09,179 --> 01:30:11,460
with it so they they handle quite a lot

1913
01:30:11,460 --> 01:30:13,080
for the for the small team that we have

1914
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,320
and they do a fantastic job

1915
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,659
um and finally we have uh the Economic

1916
01:30:18,659 --> 01:30:21,179
Development Division that ensures that

1917
01:30:21,179 --> 01:30:23,639
there's a sufficient land and

1918
01:30:23,639 --> 01:30:25,260
infrastructure to accommodate our build

1919
01:30:25,260 --> 01:30:27,120
our business and industry development

1920
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,760
and it also focuses on business growth

1921
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,679
and retention business recruitment

1922
01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:34,380
Regional economic growth as well as

1923
01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:35,960
Workforce Development

1924
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,820
uh the economic development divisions

1925
01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:41,460
also the administrator for our downtown

1926
01:30:41,460 --> 01:30:43,739
building restoration program through

1927
01:30:43,739 --> 01:30:46,920
that program we issued six grants for

1928
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,719
fifty thousand dollars a city investment

1929
01:30:48,719 --> 01:30:51,060
last year and we are currently underway

1930
01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:53,219
with the new planning with the new cycle

1931
01:30:53,219 --> 01:30:55,620
this year and we received enough

1932
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:57,659
applications for fully funding that

1933
01:30:57,659 --> 01:31:00,780
Grant cycle again this year

1934
01:31:00,780 --> 01:31:03,179
um in 2022 the division assisted over

1935
01:31:03,179 --> 01:31:06,000
120 businesses with resource connection

1936
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,340
Grant Administration and business

1937
01:31:08,340 --> 01:31:11,280
startup and expansion efforts the

1938
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:12,960
division also partners with several

1939
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,020
outside agencies to increase the city's

1940
01:31:16,020 --> 01:31:18,360
capacity for Local Economic Development

1941
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,699
goals and these Partnerships increase

1942
01:31:20,699 --> 01:31:22,020
the amount of tools that we have

1943
01:31:22,020 --> 01:31:24,360
available to address Regional

1944
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,300
coordination Wetland and Industrial site

1945
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:29,580
Readiness resource development Workforce

1946
01:31:29,580 --> 01:31:31,920
Development local business support as

1947
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,739
well as business recruitments

1948
01:31:34,739 --> 01:31:37,020
um we also have a focus on obtaining

1949
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:39,120
grants to further economic opportunities

1950
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,520
within the community last year we

1951
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,139
brought in over three hundred thousand

1952
01:31:43,139 --> 01:31:45,540
dollars in Grant Monies to support

1953
01:31:45,540 --> 01:31:47,760
Economic Development efforts and Direct

1954
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,800
business support uh to our business

1955
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,000
community

1956
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,000
and for this coming fiscal year we will

1957
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,440
continue to leverage those outside

1958
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,360
funding sources we are looking at

1959
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:58,920
several different grants that are coming

1960
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,100
up this fall to achieve additional Grant

1961
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:03,960
monies coming in for the the economic

1962
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,780
development purposes and then we also

1963
01:32:06,780 --> 01:32:08,940
will be focusing on implementing the

1964
01:32:08,940 --> 01:32:11,100
large number of action items that are

1965
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,719
contributed Through The Economic

1966
01:32:12,719 --> 01:32:15,540
Opportunity analysis

1967
01:32:15,540 --> 01:32:17,280
um the Staffing and support for the

1968
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,960
economic development decision division

1969
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,600
is myself and we also have an economic

1970
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,300
development Catalyst and the budget for

1971
01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:26,580
that division is largely related to

1972
01:32:26,580 --> 01:32:28,620
salaries and benefits with minor

1973
01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:31,139
materials and services included

1974
01:32:31,139 --> 01:32:34,920
and with that I can answer any questions

1975
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,380
anybody have any questions I would just

1976
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:40,440
say that as far as on behalf of the

1977
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:43,500
chamber I rely on being able to

1978
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:45,840
um I guess call out and ask for

1979
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,719
assistance and use the city's Economic

1980
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:50,880
Development Department as a resource and

1981
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,199
that has and I've never been

1982
01:32:52,199 --> 01:32:54,540
disappointed I think I I recommend you

1983
01:32:54,540 --> 01:32:56,639
guys for that I do have a question on

1984
01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:59,460
the um the there's a significant

1985
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:01,920
materials and services decrease from

1986
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,420
what what is that

1987
01:33:03,420 --> 01:33:06,360
can you do you know yeah in our efforts

1988
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,500
to

1989
01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:09,600
um cut around the edges for for a

1990
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,639
reduction of budget this year we did

1991
01:33:11,639 --> 01:33:14,280
take out a significant budget for

1992
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,100
training and conferences that that would

1993
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:18,840
provide us with the networking

1994
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,719
assistance and being able to further our

1995
01:33:21,719 --> 01:33:24,480
training for for grant writing

1996
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:28,260
um and also through owida Grant Services

1997
01:33:28,260 --> 01:33:31,320
as well thank you

1998
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,179
real quick I had a question

1999
01:33:33,179 --> 01:33:34,440
um the six

2000
01:33:34,440 --> 01:33:37,500
grants that we give away for the 50 000

2001
01:33:37,500 --> 01:33:39,540
is that come from the general fund no

2002
01:33:39,540 --> 01:33:41,400
that's funded through the transient

2003
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,340
lodging tax of the motel tax the right

2004
01:33:44,340 --> 01:33:47,179
okay thank you

2005
01:33:47,179 --> 01:33:50,580
foreign I want to compliment you also I

2006
01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:52,980
will say with our non-profit when we've

2007
01:33:52,980 --> 01:33:55,320
been looking at buildings and places to

2008
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,300
go

2009
01:33:56,300 --> 01:33:59,820
I make a phone call and her she or her

2010
01:33:59,820 --> 01:34:02,940
officer there giving us advice giving us

2011
01:34:02,940 --> 01:34:04,920
parameters to work within and things to

2012
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,440
look at and we're even looking at

2013
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:10,020
building a building and she made sure

2014
01:34:10,020 --> 01:34:12,060
that where we were looking is a place

2015
01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:14,040
that we could do it and then sent me all

2016
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,560
the requirements for it so we can get

2017
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,199
pre-armed when we start trying to make

2018
01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:21,360
our decisions and it's very very helpful

2019
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,540
to have that and someone with a weird

2020
01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:26,760
sense of humor makes it easier for me to

2021
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,880
operate with so I appreciate that very

2022
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,649
much

2023
01:34:33,659 --> 01:34:37,850
I don't talk to you do I

2024
01:34:37,860 --> 01:34:41,159
thank you very much thank you Kelly

2025
01:34:41,159 --> 01:34:45,300
okay Information Technology Brent

2026
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:51,350
and please speak English not Tech

2027
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,739
AJ I will try okay

2028
01:34:55,739 --> 01:34:58,500
so I manage the it and GIS departments

2029
01:34:58,500 --> 01:35:01,139
here the city there are six of us total

2030
01:35:01,139 --> 01:35:03,719
one of us does GIS primarily and the

2031
01:35:03,719 --> 01:35:04,980
rest of us try and keep computers

2032
01:35:04,980 --> 01:35:06,540
running

2033
01:35:06,540 --> 01:35:09,500
we also contract with the fire district

2034
01:35:09,500 --> 01:35:12,060
to provide I.T services and phone

2035
01:35:12,060 --> 01:35:13,679
support for them as well

2036
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:15,960
one of the big projects we we worked on

2037
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,260
in fiscal year 2023 here this year has

2038
01:35:19,260 --> 01:35:21,060
been that new build they're doing over

2039
01:35:21,060 --> 01:35:22,380
on Oak Street

2040
01:35:22,380 --> 01:35:25,020
and that will continue for the next

2041
01:35:25,020 --> 01:35:28,380
fiscal year there's quite a bit of work

2042
01:35:28,380 --> 01:35:31,980
to help get that building outfitted for

2043
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:33,060
them

2044
01:35:33,060 --> 01:35:35,760
on the city Side last year we really

2045
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,219
focused on cyber security upgrades

2046
01:35:38,219 --> 01:35:41,040
so last spring our insurance provider

2047
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,659
came out with a new set of requirements

2048
01:35:42,659 --> 01:35:44,760
for qualifying for cyber security

2049
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,639
insurance which resulted in a discussion

2050
01:35:47,639 --> 01:35:49,440
about what level of cyber security

2051
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:52,739
Insurance do we want we decided to go

2052
01:35:52,739 --> 01:35:54,840
for a higher tier so that we were

2053
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,239
protected better if we had an incident

2054
01:35:57,239 --> 01:36:00,120
and using some of the arpa dollars we

2055
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,460
were able to buy a new hardware software

2056
01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:06,239
training tools assessments and met that

2057
01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:09,480
so kind of hit two goals protecting the

2058
01:36:09,480 --> 01:36:11,520
city better training staff as well as

2059
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,280
giving us better insurance

2060
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,460
uh our budget for next year for fiscal

2061
01:36:17,460 --> 01:36:19,739
year 2024 is really

2062
01:36:19,739 --> 01:36:23,639
fairly consistent with 2023 there is an

2063
01:36:23,639 --> 01:36:25,440
increase and that increase is largely

2064
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,560
due to a project that we're planning on

2065
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,600
doing for the scada the waste water and

2066
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,400
the water treatment plants to modernize

2067
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,639
those systems it will help increase

2068
01:36:35,639 --> 01:36:37,980
operator efficiencies as far as how they

2069
01:36:37,980 --> 01:36:40,260
can get to the controls use them as well

2070
01:36:40,260 --> 01:36:42,239
as it will modernize some of our

2071
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:44,159
security layers down there

2072
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:45,179
hmm

2073
01:36:45,179 --> 01:36:49,679
on GIS side in 2023 fiscal year this

2074
01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:52,080
last year we finished about a 15 to 18

2075
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,880
month project to do our water

2076
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,100
distribution system so we upgraded that

2077
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:59,040
system that gives the guys engineering

2078
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,420
and Public Works planning primarily

2079
01:37:02,420 --> 01:37:05,400
better tools to work on the

2080
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,860
infrastructure of the city plan upgrades

2081
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:11,000
and it just meet like development

2082
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,080
requests and different requests the city

2083
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,320
has for this next year they're smaller

2084
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,239
projects but we hope to get the storm

2085
01:37:18,239 --> 01:37:21,239
and the sewer systems also upgraded

2086
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:23,940
and kind of cut our teeth on the water

2087
01:37:23,940 --> 01:37:26,219
distribution upgrade and I think that we

2088
01:37:26,219 --> 01:37:27,719
should get both of those done this next

2089
01:37:27,719 --> 01:37:29,520
year

2090
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,560
another project we have is our

2091
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,060
ci.lebanon.org.us email address that

2092
01:37:36,060 --> 01:37:38,159
always takes people multiple times to

2093
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:38,880
get

2094
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,199
I think it was 2017 we registered for

2095
01:37:42,199 --> 01:37:44,600
lebanonoregon.gov and our website is

2096
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,620
lebanonoregon.gov and it's always been

2097
01:37:46,620 --> 01:37:48,239
one of those projects that would be nice

2098
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:50,520
to get to and I think in the light of

2099
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,860
everything that we've been doing and and

2100
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:53,880
uh

2101
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,340
you know security Etc it's time to

2102
01:37:56,340 --> 01:37:58,080
upgrade our domain internally that's a

2103
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,179
goal we have this year that would make

2104
01:38:00,179 --> 01:38:02,239
everyone's email address by default

2105
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:04,679
lebanonoregon.gov and it would align all

2106
01:38:04,679 --> 01:38:06,480
the internal services to that web

2107
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:08,100
website

2108
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:10,080
and lastly and Nancy did note this

2109
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,060
before in our opening budget message and

2110
01:38:12,060 --> 01:38:14,400
that is upgrade of our City website just

2111
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,620
kind of freshen things up give us a

2112
01:38:16,620 --> 01:38:18,659
professional appearance as a city and

2113
01:38:18,659 --> 01:38:20,820
provide services to the citizens that we

2114
01:38:20,820 --> 01:38:24,239
all use digitally now and and want to

2115
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:25,139
use

2116
01:38:25,139 --> 01:38:28,320
that's it for my department so any

2117
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,590
questions

2118
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,940
can you go into the upgrade just a

2119
01:38:32,940 --> 01:38:35,340
little bit I was talking with Nancy

2120
01:38:35,340 --> 01:38:37,139
about it and it it kind of struck me

2121
01:38:37,139 --> 01:38:40,739
funny when it said Ada accessibility for

2122
01:38:40,739 --> 01:38:42,780
and I'll when I think Ada accessibility

2123
01:38:42,780 --> 01:38:45,480
I think Wide Doors cutouts on the

2124
01:38:45,480 --> 01:38:47,880
sidewalk things like that I didn't

2125
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,620
realize we were looking at descriptive

2126
01:38:49,620 --> 01:38:52,500
audio and that kind of stuff as well

2127
01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:55,620
correct so

2128
01:38:55,620 --> 01:38:58,260
with Ada accessibility it's just a set

2129
01:38:58,260 --> 01:39:01,199
of policies and rules for you know if

2130
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:03,120
you have a handicap or you cannot read

2131
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,820
you need audio assistance are your

2132
01:39:05,820 --> 01:39:09,060
images tagged properly is are you able

2133
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:12,420
to have that website read back to you

2134
01:39:12,420 --> 01:39:15,000
correctly that is way out of the scope

2135
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,219
of what my or my staff have the ability

2136
01:39:17,219 --> 01:39:19,920
to do we work with a contractor right

2137
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,440
now with we're with Civic plus and I've

2138
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:23,460
talked to you about three different

2139
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:26,159
vendors this spring about you know what

2140
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:27,780
a website upgrade would look like and

2141
01:39:27,780 --> 01:39:29,400
what tools you have a lot of these guys

2142
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,580
have dedicated tools it's all they do is

2143
01:39:32,580 --> 01:39:36,780
focus on scouring the website and saying

2144
01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:37,620
all right

2145
01:39:37,620 --> 01:39:40,080
this this is spelled incorrectly or this

2146
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,719
image doesn't have a tag or if you were

2147
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:45,060
coming into this needing assistance you

2148
01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:46,679
would not be able to get that service

2149
01:39:46,679 --> 01:39:48,060
correctly

2150
01:39:48,060 --> 01:39:51,239
yeah it never dawned on me that you know

2151
01:39:51,239 --> 01:39:52,980
because we we use a mouse and we click

2152
01:39:52,980 --> 01:39:55,500
on things what if you can't see that

2153
01:39:55,500 --> 01:39:56,820
yeah

2154
01:39:56,820 --> 01:40:00,179
so how do you do that and I thought that

2155
01:40:00,179 --> 01:40:02,760
was pretty interesting not that I'd

2156
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,679
understand how it's done but it's

2157
01:40:04,679 --> 01:40:06,719
interesting I know in the in the

2158
01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:08,159
financial world there's a lot of

2159
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:10,199
lawsuits that have that have gone back

2160
01:40:10,199 --> 01:40:11,880
and forth and you can get sued for not

2161
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,960
having a a properly Ada uh accessible

2162
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,420
website so yeah and that's what Nancy

2163
01:40:18,420 --> 01:40:19,739
brought up to me when I asked her about

2164
01:40:19,739 --> 01:40:21,659
what what exactly does that mean it's

2165
01:40:21,659 --> 01:40:23,520
like it's crazy it's called loss

2166
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,800
prevention yes

2167
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:29,460
yeah so risk management that's it

2168
01:40:29,460 --> 01:40:31,920
okay thank you very much

2169
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,920
I don't have my email address

2170
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,360
ci.lebanon.org because I get that goofed

2171
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,520
up still every time that that is my hope

2172
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,699
yes

2173
01:40:40,699 --> 01:40:43,800
exactly just push on the two button

2174
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,780
it'll give you a list of names you're

2175
01:40:45,780 --> 01:40:48,480
good okay

2176
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:51,780
and now strange we get to see Kim in

2177
01:40:51,780 --> 01:40:53,760
front and not on the side telling us

2178
01:40:53,760 --> 01:41:02,290
what to do

2179
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:05,400
can you hear me yes

2180
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,199
um this is going to be short and sweet

2181
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:10,440
mine are pretty small so I'm responsible

2182
01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:12,540
for the mayor and Council

2183
01:41:12,540 --> 01:41:14,520
um budget and the city recorder budget

2184
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:18,480
so mayor and council is on page 38. this

2185
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:21,179
fund covers City councilor stipends the

2186
01:41:21,179 --> 01:41:23,940
iPad data plans organizational wide

2187
01:41:23,940 --> 01:41:26,760
memberships Council expenses and the

2188
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,739
Meals on Wheels Grant

2189
01:41:28,739 --> 01:41:33,239
the proposed budget's 88 137 dollars

2190
01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:34,920
um there's been a slight increase in

2191
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,820
organizational and wide membership fees

2192
01:41:38,820 --> 01:41:40,560
that's really

2193
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:45,590
that one any questions

2194
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,460
I didn't realize the fees to these

2195
01:41:47,460 --> 01:41:49,619
different

2196
01:41:49,619 --> 01:41:52,560
groups were so expensive but it looked I

2197
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,179
would imagine most of the materials and

2198
01:41:54,179 --> 01:41:57,780
services is memberships to Oregon City

2199
01:41:57,780 --> 01:41:59,580
Oregon League of organ cities Oregon

2200
01:41:59,580 --> 01:42:01,100
Cascades West

2201
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:07,850
or yeah that's what that covers okay

2202
01:42:07,860 --> 01:42:10,020
anything else on that one

2203
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:12,000
okay now the fun one

2204
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,219
um City recorder's office so the city

2205
01:42:14,219 --> 01:42:17,040
recorder's office has two ftes that's

2206
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,659
the city recorder and the deputy City

2207
01:42:18,659 --> 01:42:19,860
recorder

2208
01:42:19,860 --> 01:42:22,440
we're on page 54 sorry forgot to mention

2209
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:24,540
that I'm not going to go over all the

2210
01:42:24,540 --> 01:42:26,699
things we do we sort of work behind the

2211
01:42:26,699 --> 01:42:28,380
scenes and I wanted to call that out all

2212
01:42:28,380 --> 01:42:30,900
the different aspects of

2213
01:42:30,900 --> 01:42:33,560
um things that we do do

2214
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,980
our budget is 289 074 dollars

2215
01:42:37,980 --> 01:42:41,280
we had an increase in our materials and

2216
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,800
services the contract services are up a

2217
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,480
little this year mainly the one for

2218
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:48,179
archiving social media was a pretty big

2219
01:42:48,179 --> 01:42:49,739
jump

2220
01:42:49,739 --> 01:42:51,600
um I also want to call out that we have

2221
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,179
over 18 000 documents in our records

2222
01:42:54,179 --> 01:42:56,340
management system and you're able to

2223
01:42:56,340 --> 01:42:59,159
access 13 000 of those documents on our

2224
01:42:59,159 --> 01:43:02,570
website portal

2225
01:43:02,580 --> 01:43:07,970
any questions

2226
01:43:07,980 --> 01:43:12,060
okay thank you

2227
01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:14,100
that was quick

2228
01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:18,649
all right Angela soulsby

2229
01:43:18,659 --> 01:43:21,239
good afternoon I'm another internal

2230
01:43:21,239 --> 01:43:23,040
service provider so I don't get to see

2231
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:23,880
you

2232
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,219
I often I am here to support the

2233
01:43:26,219 --> 01:43:27,840
employee group

2234
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,420
as the human resources department we

2235
01:43:30,420 --> 01:43:32,760
have two cost centers one Being Human

2236
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,100
Resources the other being safety and

2237
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:36,239
training

2238
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:39,480
this fiscal year we accomplished quite a

2239
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:41,639
bit I'm sure some of you have heard all

2240
01:43:41,639 --> 01:43:44,639
about our ADP implementation we're still

2241
01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:46,260
working through that process that's time

2242
01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:48,659
in attendance that's to get us compliant

2243
01:43:48,659 --> 01:43:51,119
with state and federal

2244
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:53,699
um time and attendance laws

2245
01:43:53,699 --> 01:43:56,760
so that's going somewhat better we're

2246
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,199
still working through our six-month

2247
01:43:58,199 --> 01:44:00,659
implementation period on that we also

2248
01:44:00,659 --> 01:44:02,280
onboarded our safety coordinator

2249
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,040
position that's been a huge benefit I'll

2250
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,320
give you just a couple of facts and

2251
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,920
figures on that last year we had a total

2252
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,460
number of incidents of 13. four of those

2253
01:44:14,460 --> 01:44:16,260
were recordable incidents those are

2254
01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:18,420
recordable to OSHA

2255
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:21,179
the number of workers comp claims were

2256
01:44:21,179 --> 01:44:23,580
six and we did have one OSHA violation

2257
01:44:23,580 --> 01:44:25,860
with one fine attached to that

2258
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:28,500
so far this year and knock on wood that

2259
01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:30,600
it stays low we've only had three

2260
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,000
incidents we've had one recordable

2261
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:35,639
incident and we've had one workers comp

2262
01:44:35,639 --> 01:44:38,699
claim and zero OSHA violations so our

2263
01:44:38,699 --> 01:44:41,520
safety coordinator is hard at work

2264
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,340
with our department directors and our

2265
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:47,520
employees getting training and

2266
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,219
compliance under control we didn't have

2267
01:44:50,219 --> 01:44:52,080
that position previously so that job

2268
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,480
fell on the directors we're taking that

2269
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:56,219
role away from the directors to help

2270
01:44:56,219 --> 01:44:58,560
free them up to do their work and then

2271
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,420
have that safety coordinator then work

2272
01:45:00,420 --> 01:45:03,119
with the employees and in coordination

2273
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:05,520
with the director to manage a lot of the

2274
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,760
training and compliance issues

2275
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,679
on the HR side we are working through

2276
01:45:12,679 --> 01:45:15,960
implementation of a learning system

2277
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,119
right now we do all of our learning

2278
01:45:18,119 --> 01:45:20,820
online through CIS we're converting that

2279
01:45:20,820 --> 01:45:23,400
over to a new module that will be

2280
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,139
rolling out in the next fiscal year

2281
01:45:25,139 --> 01:45:27,960
we're also uh working through a

2282
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:29,699
conversion from an old recruitment

2283
01:45:29,699 --> 01:45:31,980
system into a new recruitment system

2284
01:45:31,980 --> 01:45:34,139
we're rolling that out now we have two

2285
01:45:34,139 --> 01:45:36,840
new jobs posted on our new career center

2286
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:38,940
that's an enhancement

2287
01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:41,340
one of the enhancements is on the career

2288
01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:44,400
center we have the opportunity to have a

2289
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,739
separate career center page for the

2290
01:45:46,739 --> 01:45:48,780
police department we felt like that

2291
01:45:48,780 --> 01:45:50,280
would be an enhancement for them because

2292
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,500
they could customize it you can add

2293
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:55,380
videos and photos and messaging so

2294
01:45:55,380 --> 01:45:57,719
having a unique Police Department

2295
01:45:57,719 --> 01:45:59,580
website we've worked with the

2296
01:45:59,580 --> 01:46:01,260
administrative assistant Amy I'm sure

2297
01:46:01,260 --> 01:46:03,000
you all know her and she's going to

2298
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,040
start working on that career center page

2299
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,500
so that when individuals apply for

2300
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:09,119
positions at the police department they

2301
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:10,920
kind of get a dedicated Career Center

2302
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:13,080
Page and then all other positions will

2303
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,760
be posted on just the regular career

2304
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,100
center page so they have those some some

2305
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:20,880
very unique customizations they can do

2306
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,380
um coming up pretty soon we're also

2307
01:46:22,380 --> 01:46:23,880
going to be going into open enrollment

2308
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,280
there are some changes this year coming

2309
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,320
up that we're going to be communicating

2310
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,360
out to employees

2311
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,119
we have an ongoing project of updating

2312
01:46:33,119 --> 01:46:35,280
and modifying our job descriptions

2313
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,780
that's something we're working with our

2314
01:46:36,780 --> 01:46:39,420
safety coordinator on and that's to get

2315
01:46:39,420 --> 01:46:41,520
physical requirements added to our job

2316
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,219
descriptions if there is an injury we

2317
01:46:44,219 --> 01:46:45,840
have to be able to report the physical

2318
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,300
requirements on a job description to the

2319
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,699
workers comp company so they know what

2320
01:46:50,699 --> 01:46:52,980
that employee can and cannot do right

2321
01:46:52,980 --> 01:46:54,480
now our job descriptions do not have

2322
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:56,480
physical requirements on them

2323
01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,760
we are

2324
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,000
finalizing hopefully ratifying

2325
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,260
ratification meeting next week with

2326
01:47:04,260 --> 01:47:07,679
afscme on some contract changes we also

2327
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:10,380
have a contract opener next year with

2328
01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:12,360
Teamsters so that will be another big

2329
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,520
project that we're working on

2330
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,440
and

2331
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:19,199
I think those are our main projects any

2332
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:23,570
questions for us

2333
01:47:23,580 --> 01:47:26,460
I have a question that nobody else does

2334
01:47:26,460 --> 01:47:28,320
you're talking about on the safety

2335
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,080
coordinator claims are down

2336
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:34,139
is that you compared a whole year to how

2337
01:47:34,139 --> 01:47:35,699
much of this year just the first five

2338
01:47:35,699 --> 01:47:38,760
just today four months correct so if you

2339
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,739
took the same four months last year to

2340
01:47:40,739 --> 01:47:43,320
this year what's that look like I don't

2341
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,880
have that I can again are you I'm not

2342
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,500
sure what our numbers were as far as

2343
01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:49,260
through see Apples to Apples not apples

2344
01:47:49,260 --> 01:47:52,609
to oranges

2345
01:47:52,619 --> 01:47:54,540
I also have a question on the safety

2346
01:47:54,540 --> 01:47:56,400
coordinator you'd mentioned that that

2347
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,400
was already in that position has already

2348
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,139
been in play

2349
01:48:01,139 --> 01:48:04,560
it was hired last August so okay so that

2350
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:08,510
was part of last year's budget as well

2351
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,040
it was used as cost savings from another

2352
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,860
position so it wasn't budgeted ahead of

2353
01:48:13,860 --> 01:48:16,739
time okay yeah so the the 130 000 in

2354
01:48:16,739 --> 01:48:18,300
personnel and service for safety and

2355
01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:21,360
trainees that new new position right and

2356
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,000
then in the Personnel Services for human

2357
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:28,020
resources the the increases uh just

2358
01:48:28,020 --> 01:48:30,600
contract negotiations

2359
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:31,860
uh

2360
01:48:31,860 --> 01:48:33,300
based on

2361
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:36,480
281 000 this year versus 258 000 last

2362
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:38,159
year right it's all Sellers and wages

2363
01:48:38,159 --> 01:48:40,139
associated with that new position our

2364
01:48:40,139 --> 01:48:42,659
base our materials and services are less

2365
01:48:42,659 --> 01:48:45,000
than twenty thousand dollars for all of

2366
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,300
us so it's all in salaries and wages for

2367
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:53,570
our department

2368
01:48:53,580 --> 01:48:56,100
you mentioned the Safety and Security uh

2369
01:48:56,100 --> 01:48:59,340
coordinator it was about 1 30 and I see

2370
01:48:59,340 --> 01:49:02,460
it's a new position to HR did that come

2371
01:49:02,460 --> 01:49:05,219
from another department or did that just

2372
01:49:05,219 --> 01:49:07,500
come from hr's budget I'm I mean we

2373
01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:08,760
didn't see it last year so I'm just a

2374
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:09,900
little confused how it came this year

2375
01:49:09,900 --> 01:49:11,639
right and I'm not the numbers person so

2376
01:49:11,639 --> 01:49:12,900
I would have to probably defer to

2377
01:49:12,900 --> 01:49:14,340
Brandon on how the money was found

2378
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:18,179
thanks Brandon so that position uh used

2379
01:49:18,179 --> 01:49:20,100
utilized vacancy savings out of one of

2380
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:21,900
our utility funds there was a position

2381
01:49:21,900 --> 01:49:24,179
that was not filled this year by choice

2382
01:49:24,179 --> 01:49:26,219
of the department

2383
01:49:26,219 --> 01:49:28,980
um and so we we utilized those funds to

2384
01:49:28,980 --> 01:49:30,719
bring the position on board this current

2385
01:49:30,719 --> 01:49:33,840
fiscal year and then moving forward yes

2386
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:35,219
would be part of the internal service

2387
01:49:35,219 --> 01:49:36,900
funds and and spread across the

2388
01:49:36,900 --> 01:49:39,000
organization

2389
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,400
okay so if I understand it correctly we

2390
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,619
took a position from waste water and

2391
01:49:43,619 --> 01:49:46,380
moved it over yep to put a point on it

2392
01:49:46,380 --> 01:49:48,780
where it came from we can do that huh

2393
01:49:48,780 --> 01:49:51,780
okay I just they took a position from

2394
01:49:51,780 --> 01:49:54,119
Wastewater and moved it yeah we didn't

2395
01:49:54,119 --> 01:49:56,100
move the position the the position is

2396
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:57,420
still over in the Wastewater fund and

2397
01:49:57,420 --> 01:49:59,280
there was justification as far as the

2398
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:00,719
work that's being done out of the the

2399
01:50:00,719 --> 01:50:02,880
utility treatment at the wastewater

2400
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,560
treatment plant

2401
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,300
um and across the the public works

2402
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:08,040
department as a whole

2403
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:09,659
um it was determined at that point that

2404
01:50:09,659 --> 01:50:12,659
the justification was there to house the

2405
01:50:12,659 --> 01:50:14,159
position there

2406
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:16,139
long term like that's not a position

2407
01:50:16,139 --> 01:50:17,940
they're going to need to fill

2408
01:50:17,940 --> 01:50:21,060
the position is budgeted in this in the

2409
01:50:21,060 --> 01:50:22,920
24 budget the Wastewater one so the

2410
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,860
position's not going away by any means

2411
01:50:25,860 --> 01:50:28,800
um but so we're so in this budget we're

2412
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,580
keeping the waste water and we're adding

2413
01:50:32,580 --> 01:50:35,880
the the safety person

2414
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:38,580
so our sewer bills are paying for the

2415
01:50:38,580 --> 01:50:41,100
safety person for this current fiscal

2416
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:43,020
year yes

2417
01:50:43,020 --> 01:50:44,639
okay

2418
01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:46,380
I don't really love that just so we're

2419
01:50:46,380 --> 01:50:48,179
I'm gonna just be on record and say that

2420
01:50:48,179 --> 01:50:50,040
I don't I don't love that coming out of

2421
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,739
that fund for that so

2422
01:50:52,739 --> 01:50:54,900
that makes two of us it looks confusing

2423
01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:57,300
to me because normally that the the

2424
01:50:57,300 --> 01:51:00,780
water utilities are dedicated that

2425
01:51:00,780 --> 01:51:02,580
that's correct the the position was

2426
01:51:02,580 --> 01:51:04,500
added it has been a considerable amount

2427
01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:06,060
of time this year at the Wastewater

2428
01:51:06,060 --> 01:51:07,739
Plant

2429
01:51:07,739 --> 01:51:09,960
um in in terms of trying to deal with

2430
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,780
safety there uh in addition to other

2431
01:51:12,780 --> 01:51:16,199
Public Works operations so uh the

2432
01:51:16,199 --> 01:51:19,080
person's been out working with Cruz

2433
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:23,520
um uh uh construction sites uh has been

2434
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,739
working with Parks Crews and and

2435
01:51:25,739 --> 01:51:28,199
reviewing you know practices the tree

2436
01:51:28,199 --> 01:51:30,179
cutting groups

2437
01:51:30,179 --> 01:51:33,360
um has been Aquarius like an issue came

2438
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:34,560
up

2439
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:35,100
um

2440
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:37,860
Parks Cruise in cleaning Parks

2441
01:51:37,860 --> 01:51:40,619
oftentimes come across needles they did

2442
01:51:40,619 --> 01:51:43,020
not have puncture proof gloves that's

2443
01:51:43,020 --> 01:51:45,480
PPE that we should be providing so that

2444
01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:48,420
came up in inspections and then our

2445
01:51:48,420 --> 01:51:50,699
safety coordinator works with Public

2446
01:51:50,699 --> 01:51:52,500
Works to acquire those gloves and make

2447
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:55,380
sure our staff is appropriately

2448
01:51:55,380 --> 01:51:57,830
uh

2449
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:00,179
clothed I guess would be the word in

2450
01:52:00,179 --> 01:52:03,119
terms of the PPE they need it was an

2451
01:52:03,119 --> 01:52:05,400
opportunity to use savings from a

2452
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:06,840
position that was being left open

2453
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:10,800
purposely for the year to assess kind of

2454
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,500
need for that position at the plant and

2455
01:52:13,500 --> 01:52:16,380
start trying to address some of the

2456
01:52:16,380 --> 01:52:19,020
safety issues that we have had as an

2457
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:22,320
organization and that that position is

2458
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,000
working with other departments so moving

2459
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,219
it into Human Resources allocating the

2460
01:52:26,219 --> 01:52:28,440
costs across the organization

2461
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:30,860
it's included inspections of buildings

2462
01:52:30,860 --> 01:52:33,360
identifying where we don't have aeds

2463
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,060
that we should

2464
01:52:35,060 --> 01:52:38,580
identifying where we have way out of

2465
01:52:38,580 --> 01:52:41,400
date medications in uh you know aspirin

2466
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,080
and those kinds of things in first aid

2467
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,840
kits that employees are using Band-Aids

2468
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,520
that don't stick anymore in updating

2469
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,280
those so which is as an organization

2470
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,580
have not been paying attention to that

2471
01:52:53,580 --> 01:52:55,679
trying to pay attention to that so but

2472
01:52:55,679 --> 01:53:01,020
this kind this cleans it that up that my concern is with the the funds coming

2473
01:53:01,020 --> 01:53:04,199
out of a non- utility funds are are

2474
01:53:04,199 --> 01:53:07,980
special and uh legally so and rightfully

2475
01:53:07,980 --> 01:53:12,260
so so I just I just to clarify this

2476
01:53:12,260 --> 01:53:14,940
ends that and cleans it up correct

2477
01:53:14,940 --> 01:53:17,159
moving forward yes that makes me happy

2478
01:53:17,159 --> 01:53:19,320
how many details on what the OSHA

2479
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,820
violation was and where that took place

2480
01:53:20,820 --> 01:53:24,360
I yes and I can um I'm sure when Jason's

2481
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,340
up he can share it more details but I do

2482
01:53:26,340 --> 01:53:28,560
know that there was a gas line that was

2483
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:34,790
struck with some heavy equipment

2484
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,260
any other questions

2485
01:53:37,260 --> 01:53:39,600
okay thank you I'd like to hear the

2486
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,159
answer though I will get that back okay

2487
01:53:41,159 --> 01:53:43,639
thank you

2488
01:53:43,639 --> 01:53:46,739
okay Brandon you're up

2489
01:53:46,739 --> 01:53:49,199
good afternoon everybody uh so I get the

2490
01:53:49,199 --> 01:53:50,699
pleasure of talking to you about the

2491
01:53:50,699 --> 01:53:52,380
finance department and I'm also going to

2492
01:53:52,380 --> 01:53:54,719
throw non-departmental in there uh

2493
01:53:54,719 --> 01:53:55,920
because I realized we haven't talked

2494
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:57,900
about that yet which is in your budget

2495
01:53:57,900 --> 01:53:59,280
so

2496
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:00,900
um the finance department consists of

2497
01:54:00,900 --> 01:54:03,420
two different areas first obviously

2498
01:54:03,420 --> 01:54:05,460
Finance uh and the finance office

2499
01:54:05,460 --> 01:54:08,159
overall covers a multitude of functions

2500
01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:11,760
Utility Billing audit functions uh the

2501
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:13,800
budget that is before you uh building

2502
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,480
collaboration with the city manager's

2503
01:54:15,480 --> 01:54:16,980
office

2504
01:54:16,980 --> 01:54:19,020
um accounts receivable accounts payable

2505
01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:21,360
uh and then

2506
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:25,580
General Finance accounting functions

2507
01:54:25,580 --> 01:54:28,320
to accomplish all of those duties I've

2508
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,659
got five FTE in the office including

2509
01:54:30,659 --> 01:54:33,540
myself we did do a little bit of a

2510
01:54:33,540 --> 01:54:35,639
position reorganization in this current

2511
01:54:35,639 --> 01:54:37,100
fiscal year

2512
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:40,199
a vacancy opened up with our accounting

2513
01:54:40,199 --> 01:54:43,860
supervisor and instead of replacing that

2514
01:54:43,860 --> 01:54:46,199
position we instead repurpose that to

2515
01:54:46,199 --> 01:54:48,540
bring on a payroll specialist

2516
01:54:48,540 --> 01:54:51,119
um I think that was a good move for us

2517
01:54:51,119 --> 01:54:54,179
we have a lot of we had one individual

2518
01:54:54,179 --> 01:54:56,639
we had an accountant that was doing all

2519
01:54:56,639 --> 01:54:58,560
of the payroll work and that's not what

2520
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,080
they were originally hired for this

2521
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,560
person is well versed in state and

2522
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,780
federal payroll laws has spent

2523
01:55:06,780 --> 01:55:08,460
considerable time with our new payroll

2524
01:55:08,460 --> 01:55:11,699
system that you've all heard about and

2525
01:55:11,699 --> 01:55:13,440
we think that moving forward this is

2526
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,060
going to be what's the what's best for

2527
01:55:15,060 --> 01:55:16,619
the organization to ensure that we

2528
01:55:16,619 --> 01:55:20,340
comply with with all of the rules

2529
01:55:20,340 --> 01:55:22,380
um that did actually save us some money

2530
01:55:22,380 --> 01:55:25,080
overall as well so that adjustment saved

2531
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,380
about 38 000 in salary and benefit costs

2532
01:55:28,380 --> 01:55:29,940
um through which we are replacing some

2533
01:55:29,940 --> 01:55:33,060
of that with the ADP software that has

2534
01:55:33,060 --> 01:55:34,619
landed in my budget but overall I'm

2535
01:55:34,619 --> 01:55:37,020
still uh ten thousand dollars less

2536
01:55:37,020 --> 01:55:39,659
between those two changes in my overall

2537
01:55:39,659 --> 01:55:42,290
budget

2538
01:55:42,300 --> 01:55:44,400
um the rest of my budget is primarily

2539
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,780
Contract Services we have multi multiple

2540
01:55:47,780 --> 01:55:50,460
debt obligations as far as fees

2541
01:55:50,460 --> 01:55:52,199
associated with our debt and management

2542
01:55:52,199 --> 01:55:55,920
thereof and then certainly audit each

2543
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,100
year is a considerable cost for us

2544
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:01,440
um and then just kind of General banking

2545
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:02,540
services

2546
01:56:02,540 --> 01:56:05,699
and Report filings that we have to make

2547
01:56:05,699 --> 01:56:09,119
as a city so all of those costs oh and

2548
01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:11,280
our overall Finance system uh

2549
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,619
Springbrook is a considerable cost as

2550
01:56:13,619 --> 01:56:15,179
well so all of that is housed inside the

2551
01:56:15,179 --> 01:56:17,460
finance office in the materials and

2552
01:56:17,460 --> 01:56:19,080
service budget

2553
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,719
the other function for finance is the

2554
01:56:21,719 --> 01:56:24,179
supervision of Municipal Court

2555
01:56:24,179 --> 01:56:27,179
um so as Finance director I oversee

2556
01:56:27,179 --> 01:56:31,320
three FTE over in court I do not oversee

2557
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,900
the judge that is the the purview of the

2558
01:56:33,900 --> 01:56:37,080
city council and so my function is

2559
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:38,760
really just supervising the day-to-day

2560
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,699
operations in the court and obviously

2561
01:56:41,699 --> 01:56:45,840
the judge has has the purview to to

2562
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:48,480
enforce as he sees fit

2563
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,460
um there's not a lot of changes in the

2564
01:56:50,460 --> 01:56:51,739
court budget for the coming year

2565
01:56:51,739 --> 01:56:54,780
everything in there is really a required

2566
01:56:54,780 --> 01:56:56,880
expenditure we do sometimes save some

2567
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,280
money throughout a year in the materials

2568
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:01,320
and supplies or materials and services

2569
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,780
budget because the primary expense there

2570
01:57:03,780 --> 01:57:06,960
is the cost associated with providing

2571
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:11,040
Council legal counsel for folks uh in

2572
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,520
front of in front of the court

2573
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,080
otherwise after that it's paying you

2574
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,119
know the state fees paying the county

2575
01:57:18,119 --> 01:57:20,639
for for their portion of of what we

2576
01:57:20,639 --> 01:57:23,820
collect so everything is is fairly

2577
01:57:23,820 --> 01:57:25,380
straightforward in in that budget

2578
01:57:25,380 --> 01:57:27,950
overall

2579
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:29,760
any questions that I can answer about

2580
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,340
finance and Municipal Court

2581
01:57:32,340 --> 01:57:35,400
I have a oh sorry I just wonder when the

2582
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,699
payroll Specialists came on board

2583
01:57:37,699 --> 01:57:40,619
uh they start we had that position start

2584
01:57:40,619 --> 01:57:44,450
the beginning of April

2585
01:57:44,460 --> 01:57:46,860
thank you very recently didn't mean to

2586
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:48,300
cut you off

2587
01:57:48,300 --> 01:57:50,460
um and and maybe this is not the right

2588
01:57:50,460 --> 01:57:51,960
time but but

2589
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,659
um we have yet to talk about

2590
01:57:54,659 --> 01:57:57,719
um pers and normally I feel like every

2591
01:57:57,719 --> 01:57:59,820
year we we talk about hers and we have

2592
01:57:59,820 --> 01:58:01,619
not yet this year

2593
01:58:01,619 --> 01:58:04,860
are we on an off year for an increase no

2594
01:58:04,860 --> 01:58:06,540
we actually have an increase beginning

2595
01:58:06,540 --> 01:58:10,500
July 1 and there is uh in the budget

2596
01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:12,540
summary overview there's also a

2597
01:58:12,540 --> 01:58:14,820
projection of the likely increases for

2598
01:58:14,820 --> 01:58:18,060
July 1 25 and July 127.

2599
01:58:18,060 --> 01:58:23,520
uh and uh yeah okay I will note there

2600
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:25,699
are no projected decreases

2601
01:58:25,699 --> 01:58:30,179
yeah okay so page 32 in your budget

2602
01:58:30,179 --> 01:58:31,860
document has a has a whole section

2603
01:58:31,860 --> 01:58:35,040
dedicated to discussing uh the purse

2604
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,040
rate increases for the coming biennium

2605
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,360
um and then as Nancy said dated the projection for

2606
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:44,400
the following two bienniums

2607
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,920
by Nia

2608
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,020
okay thank you

2609
01:58:49,020 --> 01:58:51,239
can I ask you a question on that first

2610
01:58:51,239 --> 01:58:53,699
is this the right or is there a later

2611
01:58:53,699 --> 01:58:55,860
point where this is fine I'll go ahead

2612
01:58:55,860 --> 01:58:56,820
and ask

2613
01:58:56,820 --> 01:58:57,659
um

2614
01:58:57,659 --> 01:59:01,260
so I'm seeing in 2023

2615
01:59:01,260 --> 01:59:03,360
uh just I'll just look at general

2616
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:09,290
service pers it says 25.16 percent

2617
01:59:09,300 --> 01:59:11,099
uh help me understand that number is

2618
01:59:11,099 --> 01:59:14,040
that what the employer is contributing

2619
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,679
on behalf of the employee that is the

2620
01:59:16,679 --> 01:59:19,139
amount that the city is paying into the

2621
01:59:19,139 --> 01:59:22,260
overall pension fund on behalf of an

2622
01:59:22,260 --> 01:59:25,920
employee and that's referencing 25.16 of

2623
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,199
the employees if there's gross earnings

2624
01:59:28,199 --> 01:59:30,540
yes so that's it on top of their gross

2625
01:59:30,540 --> 01:59:32,940
earnings correct yeah it's they have

2626
01:59:32,940 --> 01:59:34,380
they make they have their gross earnings

2627
01:59:34,380 --> 01:59:36,260
and then we pay an additional

2628
01:59:36,260 --> 01:59:39,900
25.16 into the pension fund which does

2629
01:59:39,900 --> 01:59:42,360
cover some of the unfunded liability

2630
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:43,560
um and some of the you know trying to

2631
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,179
catch the system up to the best of its

2632
01:59:45,179 --> 01:59:46,320
ability

2633
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,060
um as we uh outlined in that second

2634
01:59:48,060 --> 01:59:50,280
paragraph on that page

2635
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,219
um the unfunded liability for pers is

2636
01:59:53,219 --> 01:59:55,920
about 20 which means they if if

2637
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:57,540
everything came to a head today they

2638
01:59:57,540 --> 02:00:00,119
couldn't make their ends meet

2639
02:00:00,119 --> 02:00:02,420
um and so certainly state and local

2640
02:00:02,420 --> 02:00:06,060
municipalities uh are on the hook for

2641
02:00:06,060 --> 02:00:10,010
that unfunded liability

2642
02:00:10,020 --> 02:00:11,520
all right that's what I was wondering

2643
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:14,719
that's why I like my tier one retirement

2644
02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:18,119
tier one and tier two of course

2645
02:00:18,119 --> 02:00:20,040
and people wonder why I say peachy all

2646
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,729
the time

2647
02:00:22,739 --> 02:00:25,199
any other questions

2648
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:28,260
I'd like to ask about ADP sure how

2649
02:00:28,260 --> 02:00:31,139
that's going we you know with any

2650
02:00:31,139 --> 02:00:33,239
software transition I think that we've

2651
02:00:33,239 --> 02:00:35,280
had some stumbles

2652
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:40,080
um we are a different organization than I

2653
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:41,460
think ADP is used to working with

2654
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:45,300
however ADP has worked with many uh

2655
02:00:45,300 --> 02:00:47,900
state and local agencies in the past

2656
02:00:47,900 --> 02:00:52,080
we are currently working through a few

2657
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:55,139
more hurdles I would say that

2658
02:00:55,139 --> 02:00:58,080
we have discovered as we've kind of dug

2659
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,239
our heels in or as we've made changes

2660
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:02,219
then something else has to change in

2661
02:01:02,219 --> 02:01:05,639
order to accommodate our unique uh

2662
02:01:05,639 --> 02:01:10,260
paying our unique payroll but that is

2663
02:01:10,260 --> 02:01:12,000
part of why we also decided that

2664
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,619
bringing on a payroll specialist would

2665
02:01:13,619 --> 02:01:15,360
better serve the city so that they could

2666
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:17,820
tackle a lot of that on an everyday

2667
02:01:17,820 --> 02:01:19,080
basis

2668
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:20,760
and we've been using them for how long

2669
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:23,880
now uh do we officially launched with

2670
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:27,060
our first payroll January 6th and we're

2671
02:01:27,060 --> 02:01:28,860
still running into issues that we didn't

2672
02:01:28,860 --> 02:01:33,000
realize we we went through three months

2673
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:35,760
and two months of uh what I would call

2674
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:37,380
decent payrolls where things were

2675
02:01:37,380 --> 02:01:39,540
working relatively well

2676
02:01:39,540 --> 02:01:41,639
um and then certainly we have recently

2677
02:01:41,639 --> 02:01:43,440
discovered some additional issues that

2678
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:45,179
arose in March

2679
02:01:45,179 --> 02:01:47,520
um and so we are

2680
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,619
currently fixing those

2681
02:01:49,619 --> 02:01:51,659
um some of it is you know as we go

2682
02:01:51,659 --> 02:01:54,599
through and add additional intricacies

2683
02:01:54,599 --> 02:01:57,119
for various departments to meet needs

2684
02:01:57,119 --> 02:01:59,520
that has created additional problems in

2685
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,080
some cases and answered questions in

2686
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:02,580
other places

2687
02:02:02,580 --> 02:02:04,440
um but it is it is still a system in

2688
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:05,760
transition I would call it we're not

2689
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:08,219
even six months into this and I would

2690
02:02:08,219 --> 02:02:10,139
argue that we're doing better than a lot

2691
02:02:10,139 --> 02:02:11,719
of other places

2692
02:02:11,719 --> 02:02:14,820
that maybe we've seen or having payroll

2693
02:02:14,820 --> 02:02:17,460
issues broadly

2694
02:02:17,460 --> 02:02:19,260
I'm not too concerned about other places

2695
02:02:19,260 --> 02:02:21,060
I just want to make sure our folks were

2696
02:02:21,060 --> 02:02:23,159
taken care of properly because they go

2697
02:02:23,159 --> 02:02:26,400
to work for us every single day and some

2698
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:27,840
of them put their life on the line for

2699
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:31,260
us every day right I learned in the Army

2700
02:02:31,260 --> 02:02:32,820
one thing you never messed with is the

2701
02:02:32,820 --> 02:02:34,199
Soldier's pay

2702
02:02:34,199 --> 02:02:36,060
it's just you know I want to make sure

2703
02:02:36,060 --> 02:02:38,760
it's done right we value the the

2704
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:40,860
employees in this organization we are

2705
02:02:40,860 --> 02:02:43,860
doing our very very best to make sure

2706
02:02:43,860 --> 02:02:45,780
that that system gets built to in a

2707
02:02:45,780 --> 02:02:47,940
manner that will serve this organization

2708
02:02:47,940 --> 02:02:49,380
in the long run

2709
02:02:49,380 --> 02:02:53,219
um I'm confident that we will work out

2710
02:02:53,219 --> 02:02:55,199
any remaining issues and that things

2711
02:02:55,199 --> 02:02:58,139
will go well down the road but we are

2712
02:02:58,139 --> 02:03:00,659
still in an implementation phase are you

2713
02:03:00,659 --> 02:03:02,040
keeping track of this kind of stuff so

2714
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:03,420
you can do an after Action Report

2715
02:03:03,420 --> 02:03:05,880
lessons learned that sort of thing yes

2716
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,520
I'd like to sit in on something like

2717
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:14,870
that when uh when that comes around okay

2718
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,280
how it's going in a kind of deeper dive

2719
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,080
into some of the issues we've run into

2720
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:21,440
and some of the solutions that we've

2721
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:24,900
implemented to address those like later

2722
02:03:24,900 --> 02:03:26,940
not right sure but yeah we will

2723
02:03:26,940 --> 02:03:28,199
certainly work to put something together

2724
02:03:28,199 --> 02:03:29,639
for you all

2725
02:03:29,639 --> 02:03:32,159
um that can provide some insight

2726
02:03:32,159 --> 02:03:33,840
I'd like to know the hurdles more

2727
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:35,400
specific on what exactly hurdles are

2728
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:37,260
facing and how they've affected snap

2729
02:03:37,260 --> 02:03:40,860
okay yeah if we could do that offline uh

2730
02:03:40,860 --> 02:03:44,159
after this meeting come together and sit

2731
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:45,960
down and talk about that

2732
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,119
because I know a lot of us hear things

2733
02:03:48,119 --> 02:03:50,760
and we'd like to eliminate to hear

2734
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:53,820
things and get the get the facts

2735
02:03:53,820 --> 02:03:56,040
imagine that with in collaboration with

2736
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:57,780
the city manager's office and the mayor

2737
02:03:57,780 --> 02:04:00,420
we'll we'll work on how best to to

2738
02:04:00,420 --> 02:04:02,040
present that to you all and to get

2739
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:03,719
information out

2740
02:04:03,719 --> 02:04:06,000
thank you okay thank you any other

2741
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:07,860
questions

2742
02:04:07,860 --> 02:04:09,960
okay thank you can I throw a

2743
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:11,639
non-departmental in there real fast just

2744
02:04:11,639 --> 02:04:13,219
so you all have kind of that information

2745
02:04:13,219 --> 02:04:16,260
sure non-departmental uh covers

2746
02:04:16,260 --> 02:04:18,179
expenditures that really don't belong in

2747
02:04:18,179 --> 02:04:20,639
a specific Department uh in the city of

2748
02:04:20,639 --> 02:04:22,080
Lebanon you'll find that in two places

2749
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,119
the general fund has a non-departmental

2750
02:04:24,119 --> 02:04:27,739
section uh primary budget for that area

2751
02:04:27,739 --> 02:04:30,659
includes uh the last remaining arpa

2752
02:04:30,659 --> 02:04:34,320
dollars for next year that could be

2753
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:38,760
utilized for whatever within uh certain

2754
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:41,159
restrictions whatever the council uh

2755
02:04:41,159 --> 02:04:43,440
deems necessary

2756
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:45,840
um so we've budgeted 270 000 for the

2757
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:47,639
following fiscal year for this coming

2758
02:04:47,639 --> 02:04:49,739
fiscal year for that purpose

2759
02:04:49,739 --> 02:04:52,139
um there is also a continuing uh

2760
02:04:52,139 --> 02:04:54,360
repayment to the Northwest urban renewal

2761
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,179
District after the city exceeded its

2762
02:04:57,179 --> 02:04:59,639
maximum debt indebtedness requirements

2763
02:04:59,639 --> 02:05:02,460
uh and spent some money on on items that

2764
02:05:02,460 --> 02:05:04,619
maybe it shouldn't have out of the urd

2765
02:05:04,619 --> 02:05:06,119
in the past

2766
02:05:06,119 --> 02:05:09,239
um and so 225 is budgeted out of the

2767
02:05:09,239 --> 02:05:11,400
general fund to continue that process of

2768
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:14,239
repaying that urd

2769
02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:16,800
the other highlight in that area is

2770
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:18,380
insurance

2771
02:05:18,380 --> 02:05:21,300
we were told by our insurance carrier

2772
02:05:21,300 --> 02:05:25,980
this year to expect a 35 increase in our

2773
02:05:25,980 --> 02:05:28,080
property casualty premiums for the

2774
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:29,760
coming fiscal year

2775
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:32,400
certainly a jaw-dropping moment for

2776
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:35,159
myself and for the department heads that

2777
02:05:35,159 --> 02:05:36,840
have insurance requirements in their

2778
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:38,280
budgets

2779
02:05:38,280 --> 02:05:39,139
um

2780
02:05:39,139 --> 02:05:41,520
that is that it consists of two

2781
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:43,880
different things the city went through

2782
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:47,580
a process this last year in which a kind

2783
02:05:47,580 --> 02:05:49,860
of reevaluation was done by the

2784
02:05:49,860 --> 02:05:53,159
insurance company by our uh by CIS

2785
02:05:53,159 --> 02:05:55,320
going around reviewing our properties

2786
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:57,659
deciding if if there needed to be

2787
02:05:57,659 --> 02:05:59,400
changes as far as the ultimate valuation

2788
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,800
of those facilities

2789
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:03,780
um ultimately that provided a

2790
02:06:03,780 --> 02:06:06,060
significant increase to our overall

2791
02:06:06,060 --> 02:06:09,239
premiums and then a 12 percent just

2792
02:06:09,239 --> 02:06:10,980
general rate increase across the board

2793
02:06:10,980 --> 02:06:12,739
for all organizations

2794
02:06:12,739 --> 02:06:16,380
is also built into that so certainly a

2795
02:06:16,380 --> 02:06:18,480
sticker shock item for us it did hurt

2796
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:21,119
significantly and certainly something

2797
02:06:21,119 --> 02:06:22,920
for us to kind of review as we move

2798
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:23,900
forward

2799
02:06:23,900 --> 02:06:26,940
but that 35 percent increase is budgeted

2800
02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:30,119
in the general fund for a part of our

2801
02:06:30,119 --> 02:06:33,480
overall insurance requirements

2802
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:34,139
um

2803
02:06:34,139 --> 02:06:36,060
the other piece in which you will see

2804
02:06:36,060 --> 02:06:39,000
kind of non-departmental expenditures is

2805
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,400
the motel tax fund

2806
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:43,920
um of this this is the transit occupancy

2807
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,500
tax also known as lodging tax it goes by

2808
02:06:46,500 --> 02:06:48,119
many names

2809
02:06:48,119 --> 02:06:51,890
um we have

2810
02:06:51,900 --> 02:06:54,179
just north of a hundred thousand dollars

2811
02:06:54,179 --> 02:06:56,040
budgeted and overall expenditures and

2812
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,930
actually you can see it on page

2813
02:06:59,940 --> 02:07:04,430
something

2814
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:06,609
um

2815
02:07:06,619 --> 02:07:11,040
squatter there it is 78.

2816
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:12,659
um

2817
02:07:12,659 --> 02:07:15,300
we have some significantly almost four

2818
02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:16,619
hundred thousand dollars in budgeted

2819
02:07:16,619 --> 02:07:17,940
funds

2820
02:07:17,940 --> 02:07:21,119
um 228 000 of that is labeled as capital

2821
02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:23,639
outlay that's money that has been set

2822
02:07:23,639 --> 02:07:28,440
aside to enhance some of our Parks

2823
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,159
facilities potentially that could draw

2824
02:07:31,159 --> 02:07:34,460
additional tourism to the to the city

2825
02:07:34,460 --> 02:07:36,780
and so that money has been set aside in

2826
02:07:36,780 --> 02:07:39,300
earmarked for that purpose the 169 000

2827
02:07:39,300 --> 02:07:41,119
in materials and services

2828
02:07:41,119 --> 02:07:43,260
provides there was a question earlier

2829
02:07:43,260 --> 02:07:44,940
about

2830
02:07:44,940 --> 02:07:48,780
um you know uh the blanking on the

2831
02:07:48,780 --> 02:07:50,880
program

2832
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,739
thanks downtown building restoration

2833
02:07:52,739 --> 02:07:55,739
that money is budgeted here as well as

2834
02:07:55,739 --> 02:07:58,739
contributions to the chamber and the

2835
02:07:58,739 --> 02:08:03,050
Lebanon Downtown Association

2836
02:08:03,060 --> 02:08:04,679
that's what I have for non-departmental

2837
02:08:04,679 --> 02:08:10,850
nice and easy

2838
02:08:10,860 --> 02:08:12,659
anybody got any questions

2839
02:08:12,659 --> 02:08:14,580
okay

2840
02:08:14,580 --> 02:08:17,760
thanks let's move on to

2841
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:20,400
Ron and Jason Public Works and

2842
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,380
engineering

2843
02:08:22,380 --> 02:08:25,380
somehow they ended up him here on a tag

2844
02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:27,360
team thing they're basically two halves

2845
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:29,520
of a whole is that what it is that's

2846
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:31,199
what that's what I'm pretty sure that's

2847
02:08:31,199 --> 02:08:32,820
what it is I was thinking I was thinking

2848
02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:35,099
of it I was thinking of a movie title

2849
02:08:35,099 --> 02:08:36,900
but you know

2850
02:08:36,900 --> 02:08:39,900
don't say it I was gonna say Cheech and

2851
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:42,780
Chong you know couldn't be

2852
02:08:42,780 --> 02:08:44,340
yeah well I'll get started with a few

2853
02:08:44,340 --> 02:08:46,260
that are we have one internal service

2854
02:08:46,260 --> 02:08:49,500
fund within Public Works Public Works is

2855
02:08:49,500 --> 02:08:51,119
responsible for

2856
02:08:51,119 --> 02:08:54,119
the maintenance and operation of our

2857
02:08:54,119 --> 02:08:56,820
Utility Systems our city buildings our

2858
02:08:56,820 --> 02:08:59,040
city-owned property

2859
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:02,159
um our Recreation areas

2860
02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:05,400
and Public Works we have 32 positions in

2861
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:08,760
total 31 of them are are filled and

2862
02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:11,099
we'll have one that remains vacant

2863
02:09:11,099 --> 02:09:12,480
I think that's the one we're discussing

2864
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:15,830
from the Wastewater Plant

2865
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:19,020
so starting on page 59 for custodial and

2866
02:09:19,020 --> 02:09:20,340
building maintenance

2867
02:09:20,340 --> 02:09:23,099
is our internal service fund

2868
02:09:23,099 --> 02:09:25,560
Nancy highlighted earlier that this is

2869
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:29,040
an ad this year for a fleet mechanic

2870
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:30,900
that will help

2871
02:09:30,900 --> 02:09:33,599
throughout the city

2872
02:09:33,599 --> 02:09:36,540
it's really pretty stagnant we we have a

2873
02:09:36,540 --> 02:09:37,800
little bit of a balance in there

2874
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:39,900
contingency so to speak so we could

2875
02:09:39,900 --> 02:09:43,040
replace things that fail which

2876
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:45,300
compressors on top of the Justice Center

2877
02:09:45,300 --> 02:09:46,560
there's

2878
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:49,440
just four of them in each unit and we're

2879
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:51,360
already starting to drop off and so

2880
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,000
we're building up a little bit of a

2881
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:56,340
contingency in that fund to handle some

2882
02:09:56,340 --> 02:09:59,880
of those things as they as they happen

2883
02:09:59,880 --> 02:10:04,609
any questions about that one

2884
02:10:04,619 --> 02:10:07,199
the next one that is a non-utility is

2885
02:10:07,199 --> 02:10:09,239
Parks

2886
02:10:09,239 --> 02:10:11,099
our Parks Department

2887
02:10:11,099 --> 02:10:14,159
is responsible for a tremendous amount

2888
02:10:14,159 --> 02:10:16,679
of acreage and activities within the

2889
02:10:16,679 --> 02:10:17,639
city

2890
02:10:17,639 --> 02:10:19,500
every Sports field

2891
02:10:19,500 --> 02:10:23,219
if you know a kid playing on a sports

2892
02:10:23,219 --> 02:10:24,960
field we've had something to do with the

2893
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:26,280
maintenance of that field whether it's

2894
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:27,780
School District property or city of

2895
02:10:27,780 --> 02:10:30,060
Lebanon property

2896
02:10:30,060 --> 02:10:33,719
the parks fund you'll see has a infusion

2897
02:10:33,719 --> 02:10:36,060
of money for this budget Year and that

2898
02:10:36,060 --> 02:10:38,580
was from a grant we received for the

2899
02:10:38,580 --> 02:10:40,380
cheetah Lake Project you guys should

2900
02:10:40,380 --> 02:10:43,260
remember that one

2901
02:10:43,260 --> 02:10:45,900
other than that it's maintained really

2902
02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:48,960
constant it's just

2903
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,300
we're kind of in a

2904
02:10:51,300 --> 02:10:53,580
just get through it phase just the

2905
02:10:53,580 --> 02:10:54,900
maintenance and operation of the

2906
02:10:54,900 --> 02:10:56,280
facilities

2907
02:10:56,280 --> 02:11:01,739
unfortunately to say we only have one playground structure in the city of

2908
02:11:01,739 --> 02:11:03,719
Lebanon that's accessible

2909
02:11:03,719 --> 02:11:08,639
at all for anybody with Ada restrictions

2910
02:11:08,639 --> 02:11:10,260
and that's at Christopher Columbus Park

2911
02:11:10,260 --> 02:11:14,510
that's something we hope to change

2912
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,699
any questions on Parks

2913
02:11:17,699 --> 02:11:19,560
okay

2914
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:23,099
foreign so the reason we're doing this

2915
02:11:23,099 --> 02:11:24,719
probably together is because we're kind

2916
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:26,040
of tight at the hip on most everything

2917
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:28,500
that happens when it relates to public

2918
02:11:28,500 --> 02:11:30,119
work and Engineering

2919
02:11:30,119 --> 02:11:32,460
um so for the engineering department we

2920
02:11:32,460 --> 02:11:35,040
have seven ftes including myself

2921
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:35,699
um

2922
02:11:35,699 --> 02:11:38,280
we kind of Shuffle Up and Deal uh every

2923
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:39,900
so often and who's going to be doing

2924
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:42,000
what I have one dedicated person that

2925
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,400
does development but all told if you

2926
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:46,199
split it out just about right we'd have

2927
02:11:46,199 --> 02:11:49,260
about four and a half FTE towards the

2928
02:11:49,260 --> 02:11:51,300
capital program and then probably two

2929
02:11:51,300 --> 02:11:54,920
and a half staff person per year to

2930
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:57,360
handle a development workload right now

2931
02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:59,580
so that's kind of how we're we're broken

2932
02:11:59,580 --> 02:12:02,520
out and it doesn't mean that somebody

2933
02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,679
that's doing Capital won't be pulled

2934
02:12:04,679 --> 02:12:07,260
over to do a development project at some

2935
02:12:07,260 --> 02:12:10,260
point we do whatever is in front of us

2936
02:12:10,260 --> 02:12:12,179
and whatever needs to be done so they're

2937
02:12:12,179 --> 02:12:13,260
all the staff are really good about

2938
02:12:13,260 --> 02:12:17,340
doing that we're primarily funded out of

2939
02:12:17,340 --> 02:12:20,699
water Wastewater storm and streets 38

2940
02:12:20,699 --> 02:12:24,300
drain or 38 water five percent drainage

2941
02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:29,340
43 streets or 43 percent Wastewater and

2942
02:12:29,340 --> 02:12:31,139
four percent streets and in our

2943
02:12:31,139 --> 02:12:32,820
Development Fund generates about 10

2944
02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:34,980
percent that covers that cost as well

2945
02:12:34,980 --> 02:12:36,840
you ask how did I come up with the

2946
02:12:36,840 --> 02:12:38,580
numbers it kind of varies year to year

2947
02:12:38,580 --> 02:12:42,060
with we base it on uh how much work we

2948
02:12:42,060 --> 02:12:43,800
have in sewer this year versus how much

2949
02:12:43,800 --> 02:12:45,300
work we have in water so that number

2950
02:12:45,300 --> 02:12:47,699
shifts a little bit each year uh we try

2951
02:12:47,699 --> 02:12:49,199
and follow where the projects are

2952
02:12:49,199 --> 02:12:51,540
primarily happening

2953
02:12:51,540 --> 02:12:52,500
um

2954
02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:54,659
with that our operational costs this

2955
02:12:54,659 --> 02:12:56,400
year uh you'll notice some pretty big

2956
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:58,260
operational costs

2957
02:12:58,260 --> 02:13:01,560
um those aren't necessarily associated

2958
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:04,860
with our materials and services but and

2959
02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:07,020
the water fund our operational costs are

2960
02:13:07,020 --> 02:13:10,440
about 1.7 million uh 1.2 million of that

2961
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:12,179
is attached to the water treatment plant

2962
02:13:12,179 --> 02:13:13,920
demolition project so that'll be a

2963
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:15,960
contract project same thing in

2964
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:19,020
Wastewater about 1.2 million in

2965
02:13:19,020 --> 02:13:22,139
operational costs and close to 700 000

2966
02:13:22,139 --> 02:13:24,480
that is Sewer Lateral program and also

2967
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,540
your Wastewater Master Plan update so

2968
02:13:27,540 --> 02:13:30,239
those those are why those are so high

2969
02:13:30,239 --> 02:13:31,739
and then of course we have a little bit

2970
02:13:31,739 --> 02:13:33,659
of operational costs in streets and in

2971
02:13:33,659 --> 02:13:35,340
our development review

2972
02:13:35,340 --> 02:13:37,860
this year we're projecting it at to be

2973
02:13:37,860 --> 02:13:40,739
at about 160 000 in revenue and permit

2974
02:13:40,739 --> 02:13:43,320
fees and review fees so

2975
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:47,460
uh I've got a pretty big list on page 11

2976
02:13:47,460 --> 02:13:49,440
um of the budget book which shows the

2977
02:13:49,440 --> 02:13:52,199
capital projects for this coming year

2978
02:13:52,199 --> 02:13:54,470
um

2979
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,520
I'm I'm fairly confident that we're not

2980
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:58,260
going to get to all those

2981
02:13:58,260 --> 02:14:00,239
um we're going to do our best to get to

2982
02:14:00,239 --> 02:14:03,659
a lot of them uh over the last probably

2983
02:14:03,659 --> 02:14:05,579
three to five years things have really

2984
02:14:05,579 --> 02:14:08,159
slowed down in terms of

2985
02:14:08,159 --> 02:14:11,760
how we work with outside agencies it

2986
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:14,520
seems like things have slowed uh which

2987
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:16,520
increases project time

2988
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:20,520
to get things done so this list here uh

2989
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:21,840
you know we'll get a good chunk of it

2990
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:22,619
done

2991
02:14:22,619 --> 02:14:23,940
but

2992
02:14:23,940 --> 02:14:25,980
um I can pretty much assure you that not

2993
02:14:25,980 --> 02:14:28,139
all of that's going to get done at one

2994
02:14:28,139 --> 02:14:29,639
time and a lot of it depends on where

2995
02:14:29,639 --> 02:14:32,159
we're working to and and how long

2996
02:14:32,159 --> 02:14:34,800
contracts go and and how that all works

2997
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:36,960
out so that's kind of Engineering in a

2998
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,119
nutshell I can answer any questions we

2999
02:14:39,119 --> 02:14:42,599
use sdcs a lot and utility funds so I'm

3000
02:14:42,599 --> 02:14:45,780
more than happy to answer any questions

3001
02:14:45,780 --> 02:14:47,940
run

3002
02:14:47,940 --> 02:14:50,040
um the increase in the lateral program

3003
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:52,260
which I'm glad to see

3004
02:14:52,260 --> 02:14:54,719
is that enough or will we still run out

3005
02:14:54,719 --> 02:14:56,760
do you think so what's the projection

3006
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:59,460
part of the budget presentation was done

3007
02:14:59,460 --> 02:15:01,739
was was out to print that's actually

3008
02:15:01,739 --> 02:15:03,900
changed yet again

3009
02:15:03,900 --> 02:15:07,020
um there's about 330 000 budgeted to

3010
02:15:07,020 --> 02:15:09,599
laterals this year wow at least that

3011
02:15:09,599 --> 02:15:11,940
enough when we started the beginning of

3012
02:15:11,940 --> 02:15:13,619
that program wasn't it like 50 or I

3013
02:15:13,619 --> 02:15:15,360
can't remember what um it's right around

3014
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:18,420
90. was it so to give you a snapshot of

3015
02:15:18,420 --> 02:15:20,219
what that looks like probably three to

3016
02:15:20,219 --> 02:15:22,679
four years ago we were 6 000 on average

3017
02:15:22,679 --> 02:15:25,800
uh per lateral yeah right now I looked

3018
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:28,440
our lowest lateral last year was 12 000.

3019
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:33,300
wow okay so that in and of itself uh has

3020
02:15:33,300 --> 02:15:35,820
been a big hit we had some that were 25

3021
02:15:35,820 --> 02:15:36,780
000.

3022
02:15:36,780 --> 02:15:38,280
um so you know if you're on a truck

3023
02:15:38,280 --> 02:15:40,800
route and you're really deep it makes

3024
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,800
those prices go up but uh we're not

3025
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:46,020
doing any more this year we're going out

3026
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:48,540
and we're getting the the quotes for

3027
02:15:48,540 --> 02:15:49,440
them

3028
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:51,000
um so that they'll be ready to go on

3029
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:53,219
July 1 right now we're sitting at about

3030
02:15:53,219 --> 02:15:56,520
50 000 starting July one so we'll see

3031
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:58,440
how it goes but there comes a point

3032
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,260
where we can't put all of our money into

3033
02:16:01,260 --> 02:16:04,260
laterals and not put money into our our

3034
02:16:04,260 --> 02:16:07,139
sewer Maids as well so there's there's

3035
02:16:07,139 --> 02:16:10,380
that balance and then next year that 50

3036
02:16:10,380 --> 02:16:12,179
000 maybe there's not any more I doubt

3037
02:16:12,179 --> 02:16:14,820
it but it's hard to predict it's a great

3038
02:16:14,820 --> 02:16:17,340
program are we are we the only ones

3039
02:16:17,340 --> 02:16:19,020
doing it are there other municipalities

3040
02:16:19,020 --> 02:16:20,280
I think there's other municipalities

3041
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:22,320
that do it yeah I couldn't remember

3042
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:25,260
uh it's for a homeowner um it's a good

3043
02:16:25,260 --> 02:16:26,579
thing but it's also a good thing for us

3044
02:16:26,579 --> 02:16:29,340
in terms of ridding the system of uh

3045
02:16:29,340 --> 02:16:31,980
inflow and infiltration uh which just

3046
02:16:31,980 --> 02:16:33,780
means Jason has to treat it when when

3047
02:16:33,780 --> 02:16:35,219
they come out there because our old

3048
02:16:35,219 --> 02:16:38,639
laterals tend to be very leaky and so

3049
02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:40,920
you get a lot of groundwater into them

3050
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,920
yeah we are doing some

3051
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:46,139
um for the remainder of this fiscal year

3052
02:16:46,139 --> 02:16:49,320
in-house as we can because it is such a

3053
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:51,120
big deal for us to plug some of these

3054
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:55,750
leaks

3055
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:59,760
on the the wish list there the uh

3056
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:02,519
engineering projects you said you might

3057
02:17:02,519 --> 02:17:04,080
not get to all those this year and I

3058
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:06,000
understand that will that money just

3059
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:07,920
carry because it's a budgeted they're

3060
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:09,899
all budgeted for this fiscal year it'll

3061
02:17:09,899 --> 02:17:11,880
just carry over into the next year what

3062
02:17:11,880 --> 02:17:13,740
isn't used that's the the wonderful

3063
02:17:13,740 --> 02:17:16,019
thing about the utilities you know it's

3064
02:17:16,019 --> 02:17:17,460
not so wonderful that you can't get

3065
02:17:17,460 --> 02:17:19,380
everything done but the great news is it

3066
02:17:19,380 --> 02:17:20,700
doesn't get spent it just carries

3067
02:17:20,700 --> 02:17:22,800
forward so and we find out with a lot of

3068
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:24,780
our projects we'll budget for them and

3069
02:17:24,780 --> 02:17:26,700
then you know that might not happen this

3070
02:17:26,700 --> 02:17:28,019
year but you've still got that money and

3071
02:17:28,019 --> 02:17:31,019
you do it next year so yeah

3072
02:17:31,019 --> 02:17:32,880
launching at the airport installed so

3073
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:35,960
light in I'll be happy yeah yeah amen

3074
02:17:35,960 --> 02:17:40,920
yes yes I would agree yes okay any

3075
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:42,719
questions for this gentlemen

3076
02:17:42,719 --> 02:17:45,240
I actually have one more right sure we

3077
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:49,979
spent some time talking about the safety officer safety course safety

3078
02:17:49,979 --> 02:17:52,439
coordinator uh sounds like you two have

3079
02:17:52,439 --> 02:17:55,559
had uh direct interaction or maybe seen

3080
02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:57,240
results from that do you feel like

3081
02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:59,700
that's a

3082
02:17:59,700 --> 02:18:02,280
you think it's enough bang for the buck

3083
02:18:02,280 --> 02:18:04,439
to justify that position for as far as

3084
02:18:04,439 --> 02:18:05,639
engineering and Public Works are

3085
02:18:05,639 --> 02:18:07,019
concerned

3086
02:18:07,019 --> 02:18:10,500
uh not had much interaction with with

3087
02:18:10,500 --> 02:18:12,479
that position uh I think Jason's

3088
02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:14,099
probably had the most most interaction

3089
02:18:14,099 --> 02:18:16,019
with that position with the plants uh

3090
02:18:16,019 --> 02:18:17,219
but we've had I've had very long

3091
02:18:17,219 --> 02:18:18,359
interaction

3092
02:18:18,359 --> 02:18:21,960
with that position yeah so the OSHA

3093
02:18:21,960 --> 02:18:24,840
violation was a gas line that we hit uh

3094
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:26,700
that was that was really valuable having

3095
02:18:26,700 --> 02:18:27,899
someone else take care of that record

3096
02:18:27,899 --> 02:18:32,099
keeping for us and kind of break that root cause stuff

3097
02:18:32,099 --> 02:18:33,599
down normally it would be something I

3098
02:18:33,599 --> 02:18:35,040
would do

3099
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:36,000
um

3100
02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:37,439
the involvement at the wastewater

3101
02:18:37,439 --> 02:18:38,880
treatment plant you know we took that

3102
02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:40,740
over we had really no idea what we were

3103
02:18:40,740 --> 02:18:42,780
getting into we

3104
02:18:42,780 --> 02:18:44,580
nobody on our staff had ever ran a

3105
02:18:44,580 --> 02:18:46,200
wastewater treatment plant before so it

3106
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:48,019
was a crash course in learning

3107
02:18:48,019 --> 02:18:51,479
and so the safety concerns out there

3108
02:18:51,479 --> 02:18:53,399
I mean we were just

3109
02:18:53,399 --> 02:18:56,580
using best management practices so

3110
02:18:56,580 --> 02:18:59,040
it's nice to have some backup as far as

3111
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,500
that's concerned I've

3112
02:19:01,500 --> 02:19:04,380
what the results are I have no idea

3113
02:19:04,380 --> 02:19:06,780
okay that's Nancy's job yeah I'm I'm

3114
02:19:06,780 --> 02:19:09,120
just curious like long term if if this

3115
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:10,859
is one of those things where once

3116
02:19:10,859 --> 02:19:12,599
everyone's properly trained and caught

3117
02:19:12,599 --> 02:19:14,219
up on this if it'd be something we could

3118
02:19:14,219 --> 02:19:16,439
manage internally again

3119
02:19:16,439 --> 02:19:19,340
like this is almost an audit being done

3120
02:19:19,340 --> 02:19:22,260
I hate to add positions when you look at

3121
02:19:22,260 --> 02:19:23,040
like

3122
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:26,760
the purse cost being 32 percent in in a

3123
02:19:26,760 --> 02:19:29,939
few years from now and the general tone

3124
02:19:29,939 --> 02:19:32,340
of the budget is

3125
02:19:32,340 --> 02:19:34,679
I wouldn't say Doom and Gloom but it's

3126
02:19:34,679 --> 02:19:38,340
um it's not all roses so to add to add a

3127
02:19:38,340 --> 02:19:40,380
position now that may be a position we

3128
02:19:40,380 --> 02:19:42,300
have to cut later and I I just hate to

3129
02:19:42,300 --> 02:19:43,620
do that so I was just trying to get see

3130
02:19:43,620 --> 02:19:45,420
how much benefit you guys are seeing

3131
02:19:45,420 --> 02:19:47,580
from that that position one one thing

3132
02:19:47,580 --> 02:19:49,439
that I would note is all of our Public

3133
02:19:49,439 --> 02:19:51,780
Works contracts require the contractor

3134
02:19:51,780 --> 02:19:53,640
to have a safety program

3135
02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:56,100
so it would not be the responsibility of

3136
02:19:56,100 --> 02:19:57,720
the city of Lebanon to go in and tell

3137
02:19:57,720 --> 02:20:02,820
contractor X how to implement their safety program uh they're they're

3138
02:20:02,820 --> 02:20:05,160
all required to do that obviously if

3139
02:20:05,160 --> 02:20:07,260
there's something that's grossly

3140
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:10,620
negligent uh our inspectors will be on

3141
02:20:10,620 --> 02:20:13,020
top of that but that's not our role

3142
02:20:13,020 --> 02:20:15,180
out there in the field especially on

3143
02:20:15,180 --> 02:20:17,460
contract stuff thank you

3144
02:20:17,460 --> 02:20:19,140
I have a question

3145
02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:21,720
um in Nancy's budget message she talks

3146
02:20:21,720 --> 02:20:23,100
about and you guys have talked about it

3147
02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:26,160
before the pee fast I don't know if I'm

3148
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:27,660
saying that correctly

3149
02:20:27,660 --> 02:20:30,540
um anyway so I just want to make sure

3150
02:20:30,540 --> 02:20:33,180
you know if this is likely

3151
02:20:33,180 --> 02:20:35,220
these changes are likely either at the

3152
02:20:35,220 --> 02:20:37,020
federal or state or some level that's

3153
02:20:37,020 --> 02:20:38,460
going to tell us what to do are we doing

3154
02:20:38,460 --> 02:20:40,380
anything is there well wait is there

3155
02:20:40,380 --> 02:20:42,720
anything we can do to prepare ourselves

3156
02:20:42,720 --> 02:20:45,899
and be ready for something like that

3157
02:20:45,899 --> 02:20:48,479
um I'm just looking ahead and I assume

3158
02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:50,280
someday someone's going to tell us we

3159
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:52,200
have to to track this stuff or to take

3160
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:54,120
it out or whatever so yeah we're doing

3161
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:56,340
that now we're uh we started sampling

3162
02:20:56,340 --> 02:20:58,920
two months ago before that we're we're

3163
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:01,500
not we haven't been directed to but the

3164
02:21:01,500 --> 02:21:02,819
last thing I want to do is come before

3165
02:21:02,819 --> 02:21:06,060
you guys and say hey we need 350 million

3166
02:21:06,060 --> 02:21:07,620
dollars right now today this is why I'm

3167
02:21:07,620 --> 02:21:10,200
asking the question yeah so we're trying

3168
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:12,180
to get an idea of what our system has

3169
02:21:12,180 --> 02:21:14,640
okay uh what our potential risk would be

3170
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,280
so that maybe we can plan responsibly

3171
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:23,100
to correct that what the limits are what level of removal will have to have

3172
02:21:23,100 --> 02:21:24,840
if we'll have to have any level of

3173
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:27,120
removal that's just going to be

3174
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:31,080
come out of the regulations from Oregon Health

3175
02:21:31,080 --> 02:21:32,880
Authority well I'm glad to hear at least

3176
02:21:32,880 --> 02:21:34,140
you know you've been tracking it and

3177
02:21:34,140 --> 02:21:36,600
then at least we know when it comes down

3178
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,180
we'll know what to anticipate so yeah

3179
02:21:39,180 --> 02:21:40,740
and we'll we'll keep you guys updated

3180
02:21:40,740 --> 02:21:42,960
when we get results for that as we get

3181
02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:45,600
results for those tests we'll have the

3182
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:47,040
same battle with the lead and copper

3183
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:48,840
rule that's coming out

3184
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:50,520
that this throughout the city there's

3185
02:21:50,520 --> 02:21:52,620
really no rule yet there's nothing to

3186
02:21:52,620 --> 02:21:55,140
find there's not a course of action

3187
02:21:55,140 --> 02:21:57,420
for the new regulations but there will

3188
02:21:57,420 --> 02:21:59,819
be so we're trying to ready ourselves

3189
02:21:59,819 --> 02:22:02,700
the best that we can for that

3190
02:22:02,700 --> 02:22:04,740
thank you for forward thinking on that I

3191
02:22:04,740 --> 02:22:07,680
appreciate it yeah you're welcome yeah

3192
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:10,500
any other questions

3193
02:22:10,500 --> 02:22:12,660
okay gentlemen thank you very much thank

3194
02:22:12,660 --> 02:22:14,580
you thank you

3195
02:22:14,580 --> 02:22:19,250
okay we've got an addition to this

3196
02:22:19,260 --> 02:22:21,540
uh did you guys want to talk at the same

3197
02:22:21,540 --> 02:22:22,319
time

3198
02:22:22,319 --> 02:22:25,380
okay so you you have several public

3199
02:22:25,380 --> 02:22:28,500
hearings that you need to hold the first

3200
02:22:28,500 --> 02:22:30,180
one scheduled is on state revenue

3201
02:22:30,180 --> 02:22:32,040
sharing and basically you're going to

3202
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:33,899
open the public hearing see if anyone

3203
02:22:33,899 --> 02:22:36,359
wants to speak on stage did you want me

3204
02:22:36,359 --> 02:22:39,960
to do this right after these and then right after state revenue and

3205
02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:42,120
my assumption is no one wishes to speak

3206
02:22:42,120 --> 02:22:44,040
on state revenue sharing because nobody

3207
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:45,600
ever does

3208
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:47,880
um but then uh move to the Lebanon

3209
02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:49,800
budget you want to do these after the

3210
02:22:49,800 --> 02:22:51,780
and and that would be the public hearing

3211
02:22:51,780 --> 02:22:52,920
for the budget

3212
02:22:52,920 --> 02:22:55,500
you would call on okay people who wish

3213
02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:57,000
to speak for the public hearing on the

3214
02:22:57,000 --> 02:22:58,920
budget

3215
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:01,380
does that make sense probably not but

3216
02:23:01,380 --> 02:23:03,660
we'll figure it out okay they would

3217
02:23:03,660 --> 02:23:06,720
speak on on 7B

3218
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:09,000
after you open it okay yeah they'll talk

3219
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:11,399
on 7B okay

3220
02:23:11,399 --> 02:23:13,260
all right well hang tight we'll get

3221
02:23:13,260 --> 02:23:14,640
right to you

3222
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:17,220
okay public hearing

3223
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:19,640
um I'm going to open the public hearing

3224
02:23:19,640 --> 02:23:23,520
on state shared revenues

3225
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:31,969
at this time at 2 23 P.M

3226
02:23:31,979 --> 02:23:36,960
so you want to give this sure sorry so

3227
02:23:36,960 --> 02:23:39,960
state revenue sharing uh those are items

3228
02:23:39,960 --> 02:23:41,819
they are primarily they're all contained

3229
02:23:41,819 --> 02:23:44,100
in our general fund

3230
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:47,880
um we per we get uh one line is just

3231
02:23:47,880 --> 02:23:49,319
considered state revenue sharing it's

3232
02:23:49,319 --> 02:23:50,939
just kind of a general pot that the

3233
02:23:50,939 --> 02:23:53,780
state distributes to all municipalities

3234
02:23:53,780 --> 02:23:56,280
most of the most of the revenues

3235
02:23:56,280 --> 02:23:58,740
distributed are all based on per capita

3236
02:23:58,740 --> 02:24:01,439
figures so population counts

3237
02:24:01,439 --> 02:24:04,920
um as as delivered by Portland State

3238
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,819
University and their their population

3239
02:24:07,819 --> 02:24:09,660
Research Center I think it is or

3240
02:24:09,660 --> 02:24:11,100
something like that

3241
02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:14,280
um the other items that we receive in

3242
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:18,060
state revenue sharing consist of

3243
02:24:18,060 --> 02:24:22,140
I'm gonna forget all of them uh we get a

3244
02:24:22,140 --> 02:24:24,359
portion of marijuana taxes that is

3245
02:24:24,359 --> 02:24:26,220
significantly lower than it has been in

3246
02:24:26,220 --> 02:24:28,620
the past uh due to the passage of

3247
02:24:28,620 --> 02:24:31,740
measure measure 110 uh we also receive

3248
02:24:31,740 --> 02:24:33,840
state revenue sharing from what they

3249
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:35,819
what has generally been called in the

3250
02:24:35,819 --> 02:24:39,780
past sin taxes so cigarette taxes uh

3251
02:24:39,780 --> 02:24:43,319
liquor taxes uh am I missing one that's

3252
02:24:43,319 --> 02:24:45,120
it that's it

3253
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:48,420
um the quite honestly the uh you can

3254
02:24:48,420 --> 02:24:52,380
find all of these on page 108

3255
02:24:52,380 --> 02:24:55,140
of your budget document

3256
02:24:55,140 --> 02:24:55,800
um

3257
02:24:55,800 --> 02:24:58,740
but primarily we've seen some small

3258
02:24:58,740 --> 02:25:01,200
increase and uh based on what the state

3259
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:03,060
revenue forecasts are telling us to

3260
02:25:03,060 --> 02:25:05,819
expect the one that has gone down over

3261
02:25:05,819 --> 02:25:08,819
the years is the state cigarette revenue

3262
02:25:08,819 --> 02:25:10,859
and you can see that in the

3263
02:25:10,859 --> 02:25:16,260
corresponding line as cigarettes are just less popular

3264
02:25:16,260 --> 02:25:19,020
these days so but otherwise for the most

3265
02:25:19,020 --> 02:25:20,700
part everything else is up those

3266
02:25:20,700 --> 02:25:22,680
revenues we allocate just for the

3267
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:25,680
general purpose of the organization we

3268
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:27,740
spend them in the general fund

3269
02:25:27,740 --> 02:25:31,319
to offset departments that don't have

3270
02:25:31,319 --> 02:25:35,270
dedicated revenues

3271
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:40,070
any questions

3272
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:43,370
okay

3273
02:25:43,380 --> 02:25:45,960
will the City attorney please read the

3274
02:25:45,960 --> 02:25:48,800
title of the resolution

3275
02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:51,359
that's what you just handed General

3276
02:25:51,359 --> 02:25:53,760
motions on the bottom did General motion

3277
02:25:53,760 --> 02:25:55,800
well you want a general motion I can

3278
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:58,560
make a motion yeah I move the uh to

3279
02:25:58,560 --> 02:26:00,240
recommend the city of Lebanon Council

3280
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:02,040
adopt state revenue sharing monies as

3281
02:26:02,040 --> 02:26:03,540
non-dedicated Revenue in the general

3282
02:26:03,540 --> 02:26:04,439
fund

3283
02:26:04,439 --> 02:26:05,520
second

3284
02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:08,520
right been moved and seconded all those

3285
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:09,720
in favor

3286
02:26:09,720 --> 02:26:12,540
aye aye opposed

3287
02:26:12,540 --> 02:26:14,280
you can give them that back I don't need

3288
02:26:14,280 --> 02:26:19,130
that just just confuse me

3289
02:26:19,140 --> 02:26:21,060
infused tray over there he was getting

3290
02:26:21,060 --> 02:26:23,520
ready what what am I reading

3291
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:25,800
I'll try not to

3292
02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:29,870
no one wants lawyer awake

3293
02:26:29,880 --> 02:26:32,880
okay I will close the public hearing on

3294
02:26:32,880 --> 02:26:35,460
state shared revenues

3295
02:26:35,460 --> 02:26:39,780
I can't use that that's two of them I

3296
02:26:39,780 --> 02:26:41,399
know all right do you want me to use it

3297
02:26:41,399 --> 02:26:44,340
for you yeah which please thank you only

3298
02:26:44,340 --> 02:26:46,020
a fireman

3299
02:26:46,020 --> 02:26:50,460
okay FY 20 23 24 proposed city of

3300
02:26:50,460 --> 02:26:53,160
Lebanon budget

3301
02:26:53,160 --> 02:26:59,469
and I will open that hearing now

3302
02:26:59,479 --> 02:27:04,790
yes now we have some public testimony

3303
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:08,220
Genie and Cody at last you get to speak

3304
02:27:08,220 --> 02:27:13,500
thank you for your patience thank you for your patience and uh

3305
02:27:13,500 --> 02:27:17,469
our weird humor

3306
02:27:17,479 --> 02:27:19,620
go ahead and pull those things in close

3307
02:27:19,620 --> 02:27:20,640
to you

3308
02:27:20,640 --> 02:27:22,500
because I'm not short I gotta talk

3309
02:27:22,500 --> 02:27:25,080
louder I was told that before I'm so

3310
02:27:25,080 --> 02:27:27,359
we're here on behalf of the Lebanon

3311
02:27:27,359 --> 02:27:29,220
Downtown Association and your continued

3312
02:27:29,220 --> 02:27:31,380
support for our Main Street manager our

3313
02:27:31,380 --> 02:27:33,420
Main Street manager is instrumental in

3314
02:27:33,420 --> 02:27:35,460
keeping us connected with Oregon Main

3315
02:27:35,460 --> 02:27:38,160
Street their resources their grant

3316
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:40,439
funding and having the time and ability

3317
02:27:40,439 --> 02:27:42,479
to help our Merchants with grant funding

3318
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:44,700
last year we were able to write a grant

3319
02:27:44,700 --> 02:27:47,520
for 200 000 and help two of our downtown

3320
02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:49,740
businesses with Renovations of the

3321
02:27:49,740 --> 02:27:52,200
second floor without our Main Street

3322
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:54,780
manager that time that it takes to write

3323
02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:56,160
those grants is going to be almost

3324
02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:58,819
impossible for a very active board

3325
02:27:58,819 --> 02:28:01,680
everybody's doing as much as they can to

3326
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:03,420
bring events downtown

3327
02:28:03,420 --> 02:28:06,180
to bring activities for Main Street but

3328
02:28:06,180 --> 02:28:08,280
really the overall operations of the

3329
02:28:08,280 --> 02:28:10,080
Downtown Association really has to come

3330
02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:12,300
from our Main Street manager

3331
02:28:12,300 --> 02:28:15,600
in your packet I did pass out kind of I

3332
02:28:15,600 --> 02:28:17,580
was really ready to present at City

3333
02:28:17,580 --> 02:28:19,319
Council in May and I got all messed up

3334
02:28:19,319 --> 02:28:21,240
so this is kind of a little bit of that

3335
02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:24,359
what we do and who we are through the

3336
02:28:24,359 --> 02:28:26,160
last 30 days of all of our Facebook

3337
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:28,800
traffic all of the events Cinco de Mayo

3338
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:32,280
we had 30 businesses engage with us for

3339
02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:34,620
Cinco de Mayo our first Friday

3340
02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:37,439
and so we've increased our following on

3341
02:28:37,439 --> 02:28:38,880
Facebook we've increased our Instagram

3342
02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:40,500
following

3343
02:28:40,500 --> 02:28:42,060
um and these are not just individuals in

3344
02:28:42,060 --> 02:28:44,340
Lebanon they're individuals from Eugene

3345
02:28:44,340 --> 02:28:46,979
to Salem and so we'll present that data

3346
02:28:46,979 --> 02:28:49,080
as well

3347
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:51,240
um kind of we worked really hard last

3348
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:53,220
month to get our finances in order to

3349
02:28:53,220 --> 02:28:56,160
get from our former Treasurer to our new

3350
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:58,380
Treasurer Cody and kind of looked at our

3351
02:28:58,380 --> 02:29:00,359
finances and you can as you can see in

3352
02:29:00,359 --> 02:29:02,640
your packet our funding sources pretty

3353
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:05,220
much the city and that is for our Main

3354
02:29:05,220 --> 02:29:07,740
Street manager we do have some donations

3355
02:29:07,740 --> 02:29:12,540
we do have some sponsorships are specific for the events

3356
02:29:12,540 --> 02:29:13,979
that we have so an individual

3357
02:29:13,979 --> 02:29:16,500
organization will sponsor a Bruisin

3358
02:29:16,500 --> 02:29:18,420
bands in the park for one weekend so we

3359
02:29:18,420 --> 02:29:19,920
do have that

3360
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:22,140
um as well and our expenses of course

3361
02:29:22,140 --> 02:29:24,479
our our Main Street manager that puts in

3362
02:29:24,479 --> 02:29:27,720
so much work I'm connecting our downtown

3363
02:29:27,720 --> 02:29:29,580
businesses with grant funding

3364
02:29:29,580 --> 02:29:33,120
opportunities resources

3365
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,939
um and yeah operations operations is

3366
02:29:35,939 --> 02:29:37,200
really just our Printing and our

3367
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:40,740
advertising our online expenses is our

3368
02:29:40,740 --> 02:29:43,080
um give our donation online donation

3369
02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:45,420
program that we use and our Google Drive

3370
02:29:45,420 --> 02:29:47,340
that normal stuff in our website design

3371
02:29:47,340 --> 02:29:49,500
so there's not a lot of expenses other

3372
02:29:49,500 --> 02:29:51,359
than having that Main Street manager

3373
02:29:51,359 --> 02:29:53,939
they're available for us to keep our

3374
02:29:53,939 --> 02:29:55,920
community connected and really improve

3375
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:58,380
downtown

3376
02:29:58,380 --> 02:30:00,240
so also in your packet I wrote kind of

3377
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:02,340
our accomplishments for this last for

3378
02:30:02,340 --> 02:30:06,300
the 2022 we are organized by four

3379
02:30:06,300 --> 02:30:09,600
committees operations promotions design

3380
02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:11,939
and economic vitality and kind of in

3381
02:30:11,939 --> 02:30:13,859
that you can see every all the work that

3382
02:30:13,859 --> 02:30:16,020
each of our committees has has done in

3383
02:30:16,020 --> 02:30:17,460
the last

3384
02:30:17,460 --> 02:30:19,200
um 12 months

3385
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:21,420
we do have a community cleanup day

3386
02:30:21,420 --> 02:30:23,399
coming up and we have other programs

3387
02:30:23,399 --> 02:30:25,080
that we're looking at right now to add

3388
02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:27,060
to that movies in the park

3389
02:30:27,060 --> 02:30:28,979
um those kind of things hopefully a

3390
02:30:28,979 --> 02:30:30,720
Saturday market combining with the one

3391
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:32,819
that's already here in town but really

3392
02:30:32,819 --> 02:30:35,160
that again that overall organization of

3393
02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:37,200
what we can do really is going to come

3394
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:41,510
from our Main Street manager position

3395
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:44,040
I'll turn it over to Cody

3396
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:45,479
so just wanted to talk a little bit

3397
02:30:45,479 --> 02:30:48,540
about the restoration reimbursement and

3398
02:30:48,540 --> 02:30:52,280
this year we had reimbursed 127

3399
02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:56,760
756 32 cents from the states to uh

3400
02:30:56,760 --> 02:30:59,160
restoring buildings downtown

3401
02:30:59,160 --> 02:31:01,560
um we've we have seen a vast Improvement

3402
02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:03,439
and just a facelift

3403
02:31:03,439 --> 02:31:07,080
we also have been if you look at numbers

3404
02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:08,399
from last year we've got a significant

3405
02:31:08,399 --> 02:31:11,939
increase this year so far in Quarter Two

3406
02:31:11,939 --> 02:31:16,819
from donations and sponsorships

3407
02:31:16,819 --> 02:31:20,460
in fact our entire last year we were

3408
02:31:20,460 --> 02:31:22,920
about 60 percent of what we received in

3409
02:31:22,920 --> 02:31:25,260
donations last year already to date here

3410
02:31:25,260 --> 02:31:28,080
in the first five months Gina talked

3411
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:31,920
about the movies in the park that's a new Endeavor we've ordered our

3412
02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:35,040
screen and facilities for that we

3413
02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:38,040
already have three of the Six movie

3414
02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:39,780
series for the summer sponsored by

3415
02:31:39,780 --> 02:31:42,660
different businesses we're working on

3416
02:31:42,660 --> 02:31:46,020
the national guard coming out providing

3417
02:31:46,020 --> 02:31:48,620
obstacle courses pull-up competitions

3418
02:31:48,620 --> 02:31:51,540
food carts just adding to the

3419
02:31:51,540 --> 02:31:53,040
festivities and that's going to be held

3420
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:56,160
here at Ralston Park

3421
02:31:56,160 --> 02:31:58,560
um or sorry uh Academy Square now we're

3422
02:31:58,560 --> 02:31:59,939
kind of transitioning a lot of the stuff

3423
02:31:59,939 --> 02:32:01,260
over there

3424
02:32:01,260 --> 02:32:04,260
um music music in the concerts in the

3425
02:32:04,260 --> 02:32:06,120
park series and bands and Brews are

3426
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:07,620
still ongoing

3427
02:32:07,620 --> 02:32:08,880
um and becoming you know better than

3428
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:11,700
ever as we are engaging more with the

3429
02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:13,439
communities

3430
02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:14,700
um one of the big things with economic

3431
02:32:14,700 --> 02:32:17,160
Vitality tonight we have our first

3432
02:32:17,160 --> 02:32:19,680
meeting with our block captains a lot of

3433
02:32:19,680 --> 02:32:22,080
these are as we Rebrand and reorganize

3434
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:24,899
we're throwing some new new Partnerships

3435
02:32:24,899 --> 02:32:27,359
in there so we do have Merchants

3436
02:32:27,359 --> 02:32:28,680
participating in our black Captain

3437
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:30,420
program and that is that there's a block

3438
02:32:30,420 --> 02:32:32,460
Captain for each block downtown to be

3439
02:32:32,460 --> 02:32:34,020
able to be a transmitter and receiver of

3440
02:32:34,020 --> 02:32:36,420
information that's pertinent to business

3441
02:32:36,420 --> 02:32:38,040
owners here

3442
02:32:38,040 --> 02:32:40,979
um one of the oh as everyone knows one

3443
02:32:40,979 --> 02:32:44,399
of the ongoing debates downtown is you

3444
02:32:44,399 --> 02:32:46,859
know are we are we four are we opposed

3445
02:32:46,859 --> 02:32:49,340
to homeless sleeping areas downtown

3446
02:32:49,340 --> 02:32:52,620
our job as block captains are to be the

3447
02:32:52,620 --> 02:32:54,540
voice of our merchants and community

3448
02:32:54,540 --> 02:32:57,540
members so one thing that we are doing

3449
02:32:57,540 --> 02:32:59,700
is going out and interviewing issues

3450
02:32:59,700 --> 02:33:01,800
like this interviewing each and every

3451
02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:03,720
business owner and representative of

3452
02:33:03,720 --> 02:33:05,460
those businesses to see what it was your

3453
02:33:05,460 --> 02:33:08,640
take on these certain circumstances and

3454
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:11,880
how do we represent you better so you'll

3455
02:33:11,880 --> 02:33:13,620
see me probably speaking at our next

3456
02:33:13,620 --> 02:33:17,760
meeting on things like that but it's just

3457
02:33:17,760 --> 02:33:19,859
important for us to be hearing the

3458
02:33:19,859 --> 02:33:21,660
voices of merchants making sure that

3459
02:33:21,660 --> 02:33:26,340
downtown is being properly represented

3460
02:33:26,340 --> 02:33:27,420
um

3461
02:33:27,420 --> 02:33:31,910
pretty much all I got for you today

3462
02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:34,680
any questions

3463
02:33:34,680 --> 02:33:37,100
so I understand you guys are asking for

3464
02:33:37,100 --> 02:33:39,899
the manager

3465
02:33:39,899 --> 02:33:44,340
to be included in the budget correct and what's the number you're

3466
02:33:44,340 --> 02:33:45,720
talking

3467
02:33:45,720 --> 02:33:47,580
thirty thousand that was thirty thousand

3468
02:33:47,580 --> 02:33:49,500
last year we'd like to continue that in

3469
02:33:49,500 --> 02:33:51,479
the budget

3470
02:33:51,479 --> 02:33:53,520
we've worked with the Secretary of State

3471
02:33:53,520 --> 02:33:56,520
we're compliant we've done our 990 they

3472
02:33:56,520 --> 02:33:58,500
let me go back three years so we did 20

3473
02:33:58,500 --> 02:34:02,399
21 and 22 waiting for any more paperwork

3474
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:04,859
beyond that but right now we're we're in

3475
02:34:04,859 --> 02:34:06,180
good standing

3476
02:34:06,180 --> 02:34:08,640
Secretary of State as well yeah you're

3477
02:34:08,640 --> 02:34:10,140
in good standing with Secretary of State

3478
02:34:10,140 --> 02:34:11,640
correct

3479
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:14,600
IRS yes yeah

3480
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:17,880
did they give you a conditional approval

3481
02:34:17,880 --> 02:34:20,640
not yet but we have our paperwork in so

3482
02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:22,979
the last three years not a 501c3

3483
02:34:22,979 --> 02:34:35,270
currently

3484
02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:37,500
right we've we've done a lot of work in

3485
02:34:37,500 --> 02:34:40,200
the last six months to find to get out

3486
02:34:40,200 --> 02:34:42,180
of that hole financially

3487
02:34:42,180 --> 02:34:44,040
um and figure out where all of that

3488
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:46,140
we've all dropped the ball on

3489
02:34:46,140 --> 02:34:47,819
um we've we're working really hard on

3490
02:34:47,819 --> 02:34:49,680
that so right now we we submitted

3491
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:52,080
paperwork to the IRS for the last three

3492
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:54,060
years we're waiting for them to come

3493
02:34:54,060 --> 02:34:55,740
back and tell us

3494
02:34:55,740 --> 02:34:58,140
if we need to do more and that was from

3495
02:34:58,140 --> 02:35:00,720
the advice of Oregon Main Street we we

3496
02:35:00,720 --> 02:35:02,100
called them we had a conference with

3497
02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:04,200
Oregon Main Street how do we clean this

3498
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:06,840
up right and that's and it's good and I

3499
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:09,180
think having a vibrant Downtown

3500
02:35:09,180 --> 02:35:11,760
Association is good but being good

3501
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:13,080
stewards of the money that we are

3502
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:16,020
handing out is important also

3503
02:35:16,020 --> 02:35:19,140
right now you're not a 501c3 you're

3504
02:35:19,140 --> 02:35:22,140
waiting for approval but you are you did

3505
02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:24,600
get your CT 12 done and into the state

3506
02:35:24,600 --> 02:35:29,180
and I see the secretary of state is uh

3507
02:35:29,180 --> 02:35:31,800
recognizing you correct as partners for

3508
02:35:31,800 --> 02:35:35,160
Progress not LDA right we've always been

3509
02:35:35,160 --> 02:35:37,020
partners for Progress that's the way it

3510
02:35:37,020 --> 02:35:40,080
started LDA yeah we operate under LDA

3511
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:42,420
yeah but yeah our secretary of state

3512
02:35:42,420 --> 02:35:47,450
registry is partners for progress

3513
02:35:47,460 --> 02:35:49,560
I'm not comfortable

3514
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:53,160
providing money when we've had this much

3515
02:35:53,160 --> 02:35:57,680
issues in money management and Reporting

3516
02:35:57,680 --> 02:36:00,660
I think that um

3517
02:36:00,660 --> 02:36:07,429
do we have a contract with them

3518
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:08,700
on track with them

3519
02:36:08,700 --> 02:36:11,520
for yet we do have one with them for for

3520
02:36:11,520 --> 02:36:13,620
the current fiscal year we would be

3521
02:36:13,620 --> 02:36:15,899
negotiating a new contract with them for

3522
02:36:15,899 --> 02:36:17,760
fiscal 24.

3523
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:20,640
and previously did we just provide them

3524
02:36:20,640 --> 02:36:24,660
the funds we did yeah I mean a lump sum

3525
02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:26,220
kind of thing yes

3526
02:36:26,220 --> 02:36:29,160
and did we ever get an accounting on how

3527
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:30,660
that money was spent

3528
02:36:30,660 --> 02:36:33,660
no other than what you have in front of

3529
02:36:33,660 --> 02:36:36,120
you I haven't seen balance sheets or

3530
02:36:36,120 --> 02:36:37,620
income statements we don't have any of

3531
02:36:37,620 --> 02:36:39,540
that we also don't ask that of the of

3532
02:36:39,540 --> 02:36:41,880
the chamber too

3533
02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:44,040
no but my understanding was the

3534
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:45,720
agreement was that they would provide

3535
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:47,640
that before

3536
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:50,040
that has been in the agreement yes and

3537
02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:52,800
so it's not asking for something new

3538
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:57,230
it's something that was agreed to

3539
02:36:57,240 --> 02:37:01,010
steak I wasn't aware of that so yeah

3540
02:37:01,020 --> 02:37:03,780
before we before we approve it I would

3541
02:37:03,780 --> 02:37:06,120
recommend that we get an agreement

3542
02:37:06,120 --> 02:37:07,920
re-upped

3543
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:09,300
with

3544
02:37:09,300 --> 02:37:11,880
some Matrix performance matrixes or

3545
02:37:11,880 --> 02:37:14,040
reporting matrixes

3546
02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:16,080
and we pay it out

3547
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:19,260
like on a quarterly basis kind of thing

3548
02:37:19,260 --> 02:37:22,439
so it will help us and we'll help you

3549
02:37:22,439 --> 02:37:24,960
guys maintain accountability when you

3550
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:26,520
got to do it every quarter to get the

3551
02:37:26,520 --> 02:37:31,250
money

3552
02:37:31,260 --> 02:37:37,200
I was brought on here as a Treasurer in February in the end of February and

3553
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:39,000
um we did find some you know some things

3554
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:40,859
that needed to be addressed obviously

3555
02:37:40,859 --> 02:37:42,300
some of these things that we're talking

3556
02:37:42,300 --> 02:37:45,000
about now came to light and

3557
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:46,680
um been spending some time trying to

3558
02:37:46,680 --> 02:37:52,979
make sure that you know at least from then through now are reporting and

3559
02:37:52,979 --> 02:37:54,960
financially has been kept update I do

3560
02:37:54,960 --> 02:37:56,939
have quite a few years of back dating to

3561
02:37:56,939 --> 02:37:58,380
go through

3562
02:37:58,380 --> 02:38:00,300
um so that's that is something I'm

3563
02:38:00,300 --> 02:38:02,939
working working in the direction I feel

3564
02:38:02,939 --> 02:38:05,340
myself I know how easy it is to

3565
02:38:05,340 --> 02:38:08,700
miss things uh and things can fall

3566
02:38:08,700 --> 02:38:10,859
through the crack yeah and things get

3567
02:38:10,859 --> 02:38:12,720
very confusing when you're trying to

3568
02:38:12,720 --> 02:38:16,200
balance Federal versus State and CT 12

3569
02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:20,160
990 easy or big one or whatever

3570
02:38:20,160 --> 02:38:23,819
but it it's something that

3571
02:38:23,819 --> 02:38:26,160
I I believe needs to get your you need

3572
02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:27,720
to get your hands around so that the

3573
02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:29,520
community can believe in it too yeah

3574
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:31,260
absolutely

3575
02:38:31,260 --> 02:38:33,240
and I would appreciate and enjoy working

3576
02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:34,920
actually with the city on a quarterly

3577
02:38:34,920 --> 02:38:37,260
basis because it's you know frankly this

3578
02:38:37,260 --> 02:38:39,420
is my first Treasury and first

3579
02:38:39,420 --> 02:38:43,800
non-profit board spot here so

3580
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:46,140
um more experienced better for the

3581
02:38:46,140 --> 02:38:47,760
organization

3582
02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:49,680
well I'm just one person but my thought

3583
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:51,479
is you need to get that agreement in

3584
02:38:51,479 --> 02:38:54,180
place before monies are agreed to we can

3585
02:38:54,180 --> 02:38:56,580
get that done before the June council

3586
02:38:56,580 --> 02:38:59,510
meeting I think

3587
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:02,819
directing staff to work with LDA to

3588
02:39:02,819 --> 02:39:05,580
accomplish that so we're not not getting

3589
02:39:05,580 --> 02:39:07,979
involved in it until it comes to us for

3590
02:39:07,979 --> 02:39:11,819
approval just does staff who does Nancy

3591
02:39:11,819 --> 02:39:13,500
feel like she has enough information to

3592
02:39:13,500 --> 02:39:16,680
follow with this if this is something

3593
02:39:16,680 --> 02:39:19,979
there's a consensus of counsel on

3594
02:39:19,979 --> 02:39:22,140
so I have the information I need I think

3595
02:39:22,140 --> 02:39:24,240
I would I would like to have just a

3596
02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:25,200
motion

3597
02:39:25,200 --> 02:39:28,979
that would give me uh the timeline if

3598
02:39:28,979 --> 02:39:31,319
you wanted to see the contract on your

3599
02:39:31,319 --> 02:39:34,730
agenda in June

3600
02:39:34,740 --> 02:39:35,899
um

3601
02:39:35,899 --> 02:39:38,460
doing public hearings first we would do

3602
02:39:38,460 --> 02:39:39,960
the budget adoption and the contract

3603
02:39:39,960 --> 02:39:41,880
would come later but having it in the

3604
02:39:41,880 --> 02:39:44,520
packet uh if I had a motion on it that

3605
02:39:44,520 --> 02:39:45,840
would give

3606
02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:48,720
um us LDA and staff a hard deadline to

3607
02:39:48,720 --> 02:39:50,700
get an agreement put in place and ready

3608
02:39:50,700 --> 02:39:53,700
to go into packet so if you wish to make

3609
02:39:53,700 --> 02:39:55,979
a motion I would once we close the

3610
02:39:55,979 --> 02:39:59,280
public hearing correct yeah thank you so

3611
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:01,800
that's where I am on it just okay so

3612
02:40:01,800 --> 02:40:04,140
it's it's a doable thing and we would do

3613
02:40:04,140 --> 02:40:06,600
the motion when after it closes after

3614
02:40:06,600 --> 02:40:07,920
you close a public hearing and you've

3615
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:09,720
got you've got two motions in the packet

3616
02:40:09,720 --> 02:40:11,700
here so and then we'll do a third one

3617
02:40:11,700 --> 02:40:15,600
that would be fine okay good anybody

3618
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:18,120
have any anybody else have any questions

3619
02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:20,100
well I'm not as familiar with KJ with

3620
02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:22,080
doddington the eyes and the crossing of

3621
02:40:22,080 --> 02:40:23,700
the teaser accountant on here but I want

3622
02:40:23,700 --> 02:40:25,260
you know I fully support that position

3623
02:40:25,260 --> 02:40:27,300
and what it can do for downtown and I

3624
02:40:27,300 --> 02:40:28,439
think it's imperative that we have

3625
02:40:28,439 --> 02:40:30,180
somebody paying attention to that and I

3626
02:40:30,180 --> 02:40:34,190
appreciate that you are yeah

3627
02:40:34,200 --> 02:40:37,800
question for Nancy yes that position is

3628
02:40:37,800 --> 02:40:40,920
funded by the hotel tax previously is

3629
02:40:40,920 --> 02:40:42,359
that where that money was coming out of

3630
02:40:42,359 --> 02:40:44,100
that is correct and that's where it is

3631
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:45,960
in the budget that's proposed in front

3632
02:40:45,960 --> 02:40:47,939
of you the thirty thousand dollars is in

3633
02:40:47,939 --> 02:40:50,280
the motel tax fund

3634
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:54,060
and if it's okay that's previously that

3635
02:40:54,060 --> 02:40:55,200
thirty thousand dollars came out of the

3636
02:40:55,200 --> 02:40:56,939
motel tax fund that's correct but that

3637
02:40:56,939 --> 02:40:58,560
thirty thousand dollars isn't in this

3638
02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:00,660
next year's budget for that position it

3639
02:41:00,660 --> 02:41:05,340
is in there uh so a couple things to

3640
02:41:05,340 --> 02:41:07,380
remember one is you can appropriate it

3641
02:41:07,380 --> 02:41:09,479
and not spend it yeah but if you don't

3642
02:41:09,479 --> 02:41:10,979
appropriate it you definitely can't

3643
02:41:10,979 --> 02:41:13,800
spend it right so it's oftentimes better

3644
02:41:13,800 --> 02:41:15,540
to appropriate and even if we couldn't

3645
02:41:15,540 --> 02:41:18,720
get to agreement or the council said we

3646
02:41:18,720 --> 02:41:20,220
don't want to turn over any money until

3647
02:41:20,220 --> 02:41:22,819
December you know let's see what happens

3648
02:41:22,819 --> 02:41:25,200
we would not spend the money based on

3649
02:41:25,200 --> 02:41:27,300
that direction but if we don't have the

3650
02:41:27,300 --> 02:41:29,280
appropriation we can't create it after

3651
02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:31,020
the budget is adopted but it is

3652
02:41:31,020 --> 02:41:34,080
appropriated now it is it is in the

3653
02:41:34,080 --> 02:41:37,020
budget and assuming that it stays in the

3654
02:41:37,020 --> 02:41:39,000
budget what the council would take up at

3655
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:40,740
the June meeting in your public hearing

3656
02:41:40,740 --> 02:41:43,439
and adoption would include that thirty

3657
02:41:43,439 --> 02:41:45,000
thousand dollars and again at that point

3658
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:47,760
you could take it the council could take

3659
02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:49,500
it out of the budget at the council

3660
02:41:49,500 --> 02:41:51,600
table even if the budget committee

3661
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:53,460
leaves it in and moves It Forward the

3662
02:41:53,460 --> 02:41:57,110
council can take it out

3663
02:41:57,120 --> 02:41:58,859
all right this whole time I thought they

3664
02:41:58,859 --> 02:42:00,240
were asking because we had cut it out of

3665
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:01,200
the budget that's why I was a little

3666
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:04,680
confused nope okay no it's in there the

3667
02:42:04,680 --> 02:42:05,520
uh

3668
02:42:05,520 --> 02:42:07,920
if if anybody's wondering why this is

3669
02:42:07,920 --> 02:42:11,220
taking so long the bottom line is uh

3670
02:42:11,220 --> 02:42:13,380
it's not our money

3671
02:42:13,380 --> 02:42:15,180
it's everybody else's money

3672
02:42:15,180 --> 02:42:17,280
so we got to be responsible and being

3673
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:19,979
good stewards of this money okay that

3674
02:42:19,979 --> 02:42:23,160
goes for all entities that receive funds

3675
02:42:23,160 --> 02:42:24,660
so

3676
02:42:24,660 --> 02:42:27,540
um I'm for a motion that would

3677
02:42:27,540 --> 02:42:30,479
to hold them to benchmarks and do it

3678
02:42:30,479 --> 02:42:31,439
quarterly

3679
02:42:31,439 --> 02:42:33,720
as long as they obtain the benchmarks I

3680
02:42:33,720 --> 02:42:35,100
believe in the program I think it's a

3681
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:36,420
good program but it needs to be run

3682
02:42:36,420 --> 02:42:37,620
above board

3683
02:42:37,620 --> 02:42:40,500
and I'm not not going to cast aspersions

3684
02:42:40,500 --> 02:42:42,780
on past people that were in the Downtown

3685
02:42:42,780 --> 02:42:45,000
Association at all because that's not my

3686
02:42:45,000 --> 02:42:48,180
job but it is my job to make sure that

3687
02:42:48,180 --> 02:42:50,580
the money's being taken care of it's

3688
02:42:50,580 --> 02:42:53,280
being spent correctly and it's it's

3689
02:42:53,280 --> 02:42:55,979
we're able to have a report on it but

3690
02:42:55,979 --> 02:42:57,600
where it's going

3691
02:42:57,600 --> 02:42:59,819
um you just seen a bunch of directors

3692
02:42:59,819 --> 02:43:03,240
that uh work very hard come up here and

3693
02:43:03,240 --> 02:43:05,580
sit in that chair right there and get

3694
02:43:05,580 --> 02:43:07,319
ask a lot of questions

3695
02:43:07,319 --> 02:43:08,819
so

3696
02:43:08,819 --> 02:43:11,640
um I know it's all volunteer most of the

3697
02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:14,160
part for Downtown Association and that

3698
02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:16,319
and the City of Lebanon and the citizens

3699
02:43:16,319 --> 02:43:18,420
of Lebanon appreciate that all the hard

3700
02:43:18,420 --> 02:43:20,160
work I've I've benefited from the

3701
02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:22,740
program that's why I think I believe in

3702
02:43:22,740 --> 02:43:24,420
the program but I also believe in being

3703
02:43:24,420 --> 02:43:27,300
good stewards of the money so back to

3704
02:43:27,300 --> 02:43:28,740
you

3705
02:43:28,740 --> 02:43:31,910
okay anybody have any other questions

3706
02:43:31,910 --> 02:43:33,359
[Music]

3707
02:43:33,359 --> 02:43:37,070
sure

3708
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:38,880
yeah first thank you Mr Mayor for

3709
02:43:38,880 --> 02:43:41,100
recognizing that we are spitting

3710
02:43:41,100 --> 02:43:42,899
the citizens money

3711
02:43:42,899 --> 02:43:45,420
but from that point of view this is my

3712
02:43:45,420 --> 02:43:47,399
third year and this is an outstanding

3713
02:43:47,399 --> 02:43:49,220
document this year it's

3714
02:43:49,220 --> 02:43:51,420
remember right we're having a big fight

3715
02:43:51,420 --> 02:43:52,859
in the legislature right now because

3716
02:43:52,859 --> 02:43:54,840
they're writing everything that nobody

3717
02:43:54,840 --> 02:43:59,160
can understand you can understand this with a fourth

3718
02:43:59,160 --> 02:44:01,020
grade education that's great we need to

3719
02:44:01,020 --> 02:44:03,120
continue to do things like that I think

3720
02:44:03,120 --> 02:44:05,700
that's hats off to you Nancy thank you

3721
02:44:05,700 --> 02:44:08,760
for providing that to make it easy to

3722
02:44:08,760 --> 02:44:09,960
understand

3723
02:44:09,960 --> 02:44:13,680
my other question to the council is

3724
02:44:13,680 --> 02:44:16,979
I live over on the canal just by Shady

3725
02:44:16,979 --> 02:44:18,960
Lake and there's been explosive growth

3726
02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:21,420
in my neck of the woods

3727
02:44:21,420 --> 02:44:23,460
and explosive growth everywhere if you

3728
02:44:23,460 --> 02:44:25,500
look at all the multi-family

3729
02:44:25,500 --> 02:44:28,920
are you guys collecting enough in

3730
02:44:28,920 --> 02:44:30,359
development fees or whatever to cover

3731
02:44:30,359 --> 02:44:31,500
some of this

3732
02:44:31,500 --> 02:44:33,540
because from a business point of view

3733
02:44:33,540 --> 02:44:37,080
the grills is phenomenal but from a

3734
02:44:37,080 --> 02:44:39,120
budget point of view it don't look so

3735
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:40,800
good so I think that's a hard question

3736
02:44:40,800 --> 02:44:43,680
you're going to have to continue to ask

3737
02:44:43,680 --> 02:44:45,420
yourself is

3738
02:44:45,420 --> 02:44:47,280
with all these girls how are we going to

3739
02:44:47,280 --> 02:44:48,899
pay for it you would think it would pay

3740
02:44:48,899 --> 02:44:51,540
for itself but apparently it's not so

3741
02:44:51,540 --> 02:44:54,180
that that's my general comment to to the

3742
02:44:54,180 --> 02:44:55,500
council

3743
02:44:55,500 --> 02:44:56,819
thank you

3744
02:44:56,819 --> 02:44:59,280
let me see if I can answer that

3745
02:44:59,280 --> 02:45:01,500
and I was going to say in 15 words or

3746
02:45:01,500 --> 02:45:03,960
less but it's going to take longer

3747
02:45:03,960 --> 02:45:06,060
um

3748
02:45:06,060 --> 02:45:08,819
when new development happens a developer

3749
02:45:08,819 --> 02:45:11,220
pays a number of fees they pay building

3750
02:45:11,220 --> 02:45:14,280
permit fees they pay they may pay

3751
02:45:14,280 --> 02:45:16,979
planning fees to go Annex a piece of

3752
02:45:16,979 --> 02:45:19,979
property or to develop that property and

3753
02:45:19,979 --> 02:45:21,660
identify where the infrastructure is

3754
02:45:21,660 --> 02:45:24,240
going associated with it

3755
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:26,640
they pay systems development charges

3756
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:30,420
which are designed to cover future costs

3757
02:45:30,420 --> 02:45:31,399
of

3758
02:45:31,399 --> 02:45:34,200
expansion to existing infrastructure

3759
02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:36,359
that is only needed because we have

3760
02:45:36,359 --> 02:45:38,160
additional growth so if you think about

3761
02:45:38,160 --> 02:45:40,800
a water treatment plant built to provide

3762
02:45:40,800 --> 02:45:44,280
water for 40 000 people at some point as

3763
02:45:44,280 --> 02:45:46,560
this community grows close to forty

3764
02:45:46,560 --> 02:45:47,819
thousand and you have to expand the

3765
02:45:47,819 --> 02:45:49,380
plant you have to have money for that

3766
02:45:49,380 --> 02:45:52,140
somewhere you say between twenty

3767
02:45:52,140 --> 02:45:53,520
thousand and forty thousand all those

3768
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:55,020
people who move in are going to

3769
02:45:55,020 --> 02:45:57,720
contribute systems development charges

3770
02:45:57,720 --> 02:46:00,240
that provide most of the funding for

3771
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:02,280
that plant expansion in the future

3772
02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:04,620
none of those fees

3773
02:46:04,620 --> 02:46:08,100
pay for the general fund Services they

3774
02:46:08,100 --> 02:46:11,340
don't there is no impact fee for adding

3775
02:46:11,340 --> 02:46:13,500
police officers or the fire department

3776
02:46:13,500 --> 02:46:15,359
would tell you adding another fire

3777
02:46:15,359 --> 02:46:17,939
station or firefighters there are no

3778
02:46:17,939 --> 02:46:21,479
impact fees that cover the cost of

3779
02:46:21,479 --> 02:46:24,380
additional land use planning Services

3780
02:46:24,380 --> 02:46:27,840
additional people at the library none of

3781
02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:30,359
that is built into any of those

3782
02:46:30,359 --> 02:46:33,200
resources so we sit with

3783
02:46:33,200 --> 02:46:35,939
the primary revenue in the general fund

3784
02:46:35,939 --> 02:46:38,700
is the property tax with tax rates that

3785
02:46:38,700 --> 02:46:41,880
were set in 1997 with growth and

3786
02:46:41,880 --> 02:46:43,680
assessed value limited basically to

3787
02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:45,359
three percent a year

3788
02:46:45,359 --> 02:46:47,580
so you heard me earlier talking about

3789
02:46:47,580 --> 02:46:50,280
our labor agreements you've got a cost

3790
02:46:50,280 --> 02:46:53,280
of living adjustment that's four percent

3791
02:46:53,280 --> 02:46:56,160
on a revenue that's growing three

3792
02:46:56,160 --> 02:46:59,580
now sometimes we've had good years so

3793
02:46:59,580 --> 02:47:01,380
next year we're projecting five percent

3794
02:47:01,380 --> 02:47:03,479
growth in property tax so you get the

3795
02:47:03,479 --> 02:47:05,700
three percent basic on your home and

3796
02:47:05,700 --> 02:47:07,800
your home in your home but you get a

3797
02:47:07,800 --> 02:47:09,660
knit a little bit more for the new

3798
02:47:09,660 --> 02:47:11,399
development and we're thinking that

3799
02:47:11,399 --> 02:47:13,020
that's about another two percent in

3800
02:47:13,020 --> 02:47:15,840
Revenue next year some years

3801
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:18,840
yes some years no you you don't get that

3802
02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:20,580
new development but I will tell you that

3803
02:47:20,580 --> 02:47:22,380
over the long term and this is part of

3804
02:47:22,380 --> 02:47:24,180
the reason for the five-year financial

3805
02:47:24,180 --> 02:47:27,060
plan that revenue is not growing as fast

3806
02:47:27,060 --> 02:47:29,640
as our expenses and you have heard

3807
02:47:29,640 --> 02:47:31,680
routinely we should have more police

3808
02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:34,500
officers but it's expensive and we don't

3809
02:47:34,500 --> 02:47:36,660
have the revenue coming in to fund that

3810
02:47:36,660 --> 02:47:38,340
we should be funding the jail we should

3811
02:47:38,340 --> 02:47:40,620
be funding Senior Services right and

3812
02:47:40,620 --> 02:47:42,240
those are the challenges that I think

3813
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:44,399
we're in along with

3814
02:47:44,399 --> 02:47:46,740
almost every other community in this

3815
02:47:46,740 --> 02:47:50,460
state places like Beaverton which is a

3816
02:47:50,460 --> 02:47:52,880
very wealthy community with huge

3817
02:47:52,880 --> 02:47:55,800
industrial tax base they're looking at

3818
02:47:55,800 --> 02:47:57,660
cutting their budget because their

3819
02:47:57,660 --> 02:47:59,640
revenue growth is not keeping up with

3820
02:47:59,640 --> 02:48:01,319
their expense growth

3821
02:48:01,319 --> 02:48:04,020
and unfortunately there is no room to

3822
02:48:04,020 --> 02:48:05,880
have an impact that says you build a new

3823
02:48:05,880 --> 02:48:07,920
apartment building you're gonna you're

3824
02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:09,899
gonna pay an impact fee that you know

3825
02:48:09,899 --> 02:48:11,880
will bank and just meter out the

3826
02:48:11,880 --> 02:48:13,680
interest on to pay for additional police

3827
02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:16,200
officers that isn't that isn't a part of

3828
02:48:16,200 --> 02:48:17,760
the equation anywhere that's not an

3829
02:48:17,760 --> 02:48:19,620
allowed fee

3830
02:48:19,620 --> 02:48:21,000
hope that answers your question

3831
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:24,770
congratulations

3832
02:48:24,780 --> 02:48:26,060
um

3833
02:48:26,060 --> 02:48:29,540
inflation drives our costs

3834
02:48:29,540 --> 02:48:32,399
there are some costs that are driven by

3835
02:48:32,399 --> 02:48:34,020
growth

3836
02:48:34,020 --> 02:48:36,899
you heard Frank uh Chief Stevenson talk

3837
02:48:36,899 --> 02:48:38,640
about

3838
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:41,880
um officers per thousand and so as the

3839
02:48:41,880 --> 02:48:43,680
community grows if you're not growing

3840
02:48:43,680 --> 02:48:46,319
your police officers you get you know

3841
02:48:46,319 --> 02:48:49,260
you kind of move from 1.2 to 1.1 to one

3842
02:48:49,260 --> 02:48:51,899
officer per thousand right

3843
02:48:51,899 --> 02:48:55,020
um and so at some point you have to be

3844
02:48:55,020 --> 02:48:59,040
able to add officers to have uh to to

3845
02:48:59,040 --> 02:49:01,500
bring that ratio up to what is a

3846
02:49:01,500 --> 02:49:04,020
recommended best practice

3847
02:49:04,020 --> 02:49:06,780
um and and that is simply not being

3848
02:49:06,780 --> 02:49:08,880
there's not enough money coming in to do

3849
02:49:08,880 --> 02:49:12,290
that

3850
02:49:12,300 --> 02:49:14,700
well I'm with the states in assistance

3851
02:49:14,700 --> 02:49:17,580
now that we have even more multi-family

3852
02:49:17,580 --> 02:49:19,439
in the equation

3853
02:49:19,439 --> 02:49:21,960
your outlook has to even be more dismal

3854
02:49:21,960 --> 02:49:25,319
then if if you have more multi-family so

3855
02:49:25,319 --> 02:49:27,600
this and I will say this the state I

3856
02:49:27,600 --> 02:49:30,420
think is less focused on multi-family

3857
02:49:30,420 --> 02:49:33,540
they are certainly focused on additional

3858
02:49:33,540 --> 02:49:37,380
housing across a broad range of prices

3859
02:49:37,380 --> 02:49:39,420
they have a lot of Focus right now on

3860
02:49:39,420 --> 02:49:41,580
affordable housing because housing has

3861
02:49:41,580 --> 02:49:45,960
become so expensive and you know a young

3862
02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:49,260
married couple with basic jobs you you

3863
02:49:49,260 --> 02:49:51,720
know School teachers don't make enough

3864
02:49:51,720 --> 02:49:54,479
money to buy a house that is being built

3865
02:49:54,479 --> 02:49:56,220
today

3866
02:49:56,220 --> 02:49:58,560
um and I think as you as you look at

3867
02:49:58,560 --> 02:50:00,540
that challenge then you've got to find a

3868
02:50:00,540 --> 02:50:02,640
way to either pay everybody more money

3869
02:50:02,640 --> 02:50:05,100
or you have to be able to find housing

3870
02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:07,319
at lower costs and that gets very much

3871
02:50:07,319 --> 02:50:09,120
into the state's push for more

3872
02:50:09,120 --> 02:50:11,520
affordable housing that's the work the

3873
02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:13,200
council's been doing on the housing

3874
02:50:13,200 --> 02:50:15,600
production strategy which is what can we

3875
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:18,120
look at can we go to smaller houses on

3876
02:50:18,120 --> 02:50:20,580
smaller lots that would be more

3877
02:50:20,580 --> 02:50:24,180
affordable as a way to help even even

3878
02:50:24,180 --> 02:50:25,859
mid-level not even we're not even

3879
02:50:25,859 --> 02:50:28,620
talking like you know very low income

3880
02:50:28,620 --> 02:50:31,560
people but middle income people being

3881
02:50:31,560 --> 02:50:34,319
able to acquire housing and move out of

3882
02:50:34,319 --> 02:50:36,420
an apartment for example

3883
02:50:36,420 --> 02:50:39,000
um from a from a financing perspective

3884
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:41,819
right now developers seem to be able to

3885
02:50:41,819 --> 02:50:44,180
make a profit building multiple

3886
02:50:44,180 --> 02:50:46,800
multi-family housing that they don't

3887
02:50:46,800 --> 02:50:49,080
seem to be able to make building

3888
02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:51,180
single-family housing or we would be

3889
02:50:51,180 --> 02:50:53,040
seeing more developers coming in doing

3890
02:50:53,040 --> 02:50:54,600
single-family housing and a lot of

3891
02:50:54,600 --> 02:50:57,479
that's inflation it's supply chain it's

3892
02:50:57,479 --> 02:51:00,720
the lack of Labor it's uh interest rate

3893
02:51:00,720 --> 02:51:03,840
costs which if you're old enough six and

3894
02:51:03,840 --> 02:51:05,580
a half percent yeah okay it's worse than

3895
02:51:05,580 --> 02:51:07,560
you know it's worse than two but I've

3896
02:51:07,560 --> 02:51:09,780
seen way worse than that

3897
02:51:09,780 --> 02:51:11,100
um you know first house I bought I was

3898
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:14,460
happy to get 13 so you know everything

3899
02:51:14,460 --> 02:51:17,700
is everything is is coming together in

3900
02:51:17,700 --> 02:51:19,500
that discussion

3901
02:51:19,500 --> 02:51:22,500
um and there is no easy answer there is

3902
02:51:22,500 --> 02:51:23,520
no

3903
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:26,640
push a button there is no you know

3904
02:51:26,640 --> 02:51:29,040
God very godmother with a magic wand

3905
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:31,920
coming in saying poof you have money

3906
02:51:31,920 --> 02:51:36,420
um I will say that uh I do uh in in some

3907
02:51:36,420 --> 02:51:38,160
of the lobbying work I do with

3908
02:51:38,160 --> 02:51:40,740
legislators I try to make it perfectly

3909
02:51:40,740 --> 02:51:43,140
clear that the local government level we

3910
02:51:43,140 --> 02:51:46,500
do not have the money to do basic

3911
02:51:46,500 --> 02:51:49,740
Services let alone add on your expanded

3912
02:51:49,740 --> 02:51:53,460
asks so that's part of the story that I

3913
02:51:53,460 --> 02:51:55,500
think we need to do a better job of

3914
02:51:55,500 --> 02:51:59,150
getting to our legislators

3915
02:51:59,160 --> 02:52:02,240
sure sorry okay

3916
02:52:02,240 --> 02:52:05,460
it was a lot more I'm sorry if you

3917
02:52:05,460 --> 02:52:07,680
missed a couple zeros I I have a certain

3918
02:52:07,680 --> 02:52:09,660
level of passion about this because the

3919
02:52:09,660 --> 02:52:11,760
property tax system has been broken for

3920
02:52:11,760 --> 02:52:14,779
years timing you so

3921
02:52:14,779 --> 02:52:19,380
okay any other question for these folks

3922
02:52:19,380 --> 02:52:23,640
you can escape the Asylum now thank you very much guys

3923
02:52:23,640 --> 02:52:25,380
and I'm sure you'll be talking with

3924
02:52:25,380 --> 02:52:28,670
Nancy or whomever

3925
02:52:28,680 --> 02:52:32,330
okay

3926
02:52:32,340 --> 02:52:36,479
so now we're going to move into motions

3927
02:52:36,479 --> 02:52:38,100
I would

3928
02:52:38,100 --> 02:52:40,680
entertain a motion

3929
02:52:40,680 --> 02:52:42,420
are we all

3930
02:52:42,420 --> 02:52:44,340
talked out well I was just going to ask

3931
02:52:44,340 --> 02:52:47,100
on that you know we have printed well

3932
02:52:47,100 --> 02:52:49,500
printed motions for us on paper already

3933
02:52:49,500 --> 02:52:52,200
and it says uh on the the first one

3934
02:52:52,200 --> 02:52:55,200
under 7B it says uh for operating

3935
02:52:55,200 --> 02:52:57,540
towards the end for operating purposes

3936
02:52:57,540 --> 02:53:01,500
and 1.6 and some change

3937
02:53:01,500 --> 02:53:03,240
um for payments to bond principles and

3938
02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:05,100
interest does that is that annotated

3939
02:53:05,100 --> 02:53:08,520
somewhere in the can I find that yes uh

3940
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:11,720
you'll find the 1.6 million conversation

3941
02:53:11,720 --> 02:53:16,210
on page

3942
02:53:16,220 --> 02:53:18,779
62. yep that's part of the general

3943
02:53:18,779 --> 02:53:21,120
obligation bond fund that money goes to

3944
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,760
pay for The Debt Service uh for the

3945
02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:25,800
construction related to the Justice

3946
02:53:25,800 --> 02:53:29,870
Center and the library

3947
02:53:29,880 --> 02:53:32,100
just so I don't have to look once that

3948
02:53:32,100 --> 02:53:34,260
drop off I know those two of those at a

3949
02:53:34,260 --> 02:53:41,640
date 27 I think uh I think it is 20 I'm guessing but I think it's 2028 let

3950
02:53:41,640 --> 02:53:44,030
me

3951
02:53:44,040 --> 02:53:49,030
people be here

3952
02:53:49,040 --> 02:53:52,560
June 2027 is the last payment for the

3953
02:53:52,560 --> 02:53:57,300
Geo bond fund one of us well that's it

3954
02:53:57,300 --> 02:54:01,020
now so it's just a couple years yeah

3955
02:54:01,020 --> 02:54:03,479
I'd like to raise it excuse me I'd like

3956
02:54:03,479 --> 02:54:06,180
to raise a question about

3957
02:54:06,180 --> 02:54:12,600
funding for the Pioneer Cemetery it's your microphone on no yes it is I'm

3958
02:54:12,600 --> 02:54:15,779
sorry let me pull it closer

3959
02:54:15,779 --> 02:54:18,359
uh I'd like to ask about the Pioneer

3960
02:54:18,359 --> 02:54:20,939
Cemetery fund

3961
02:54:20,939 --> 02:54:22,620
um there's not enough money in here to

3962
02:54:22,620 --> 02:54:25,740
do anything except mow the lawn

3963
02:54:25,740 --> 02:54:28,279
and there's a lot of those Cemetery

3964
02:54:28,279 --> 02:54:31,800
stones that have been broken vandalized

3965
02:54:31,800 --> 02:54:35,460
and some of them have been moved to

3966
02:54:35,460 --> 02:54:37,260
different places

3967
02:54:37,260 --> 02:54:40,200
uh I think it's a shame that we don't

3968
02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:42,899
take care of that Pioneer Cemetery that

3969
02:54:42,899 --> 02:54:45,260
has all of our founding

3970
02:54:45,260 --> 02:54:49,560
fathers and mothers that founded this

3971
02:54:49,560 --> 02:54:50,399
city

3972
02:54:50,399 --> 02:54:52,620
that are buried there and they're not

3973
02:54:52,620 --> 02:54:55,979
we're just not even showing any respect

3974
02:54:55,979 --> 02:54:58,979
at all and I

3975
02:54:58,979 --> 02:55:01,560
ten thousand dollars is not even close

3976
02:55:01,560 --> 02:55:03,540
to what is needed

3977
02:55:03,540 --> 02:55:08,330
is there any way we can raise that

3978
02:55:08,340 --> 02:55:11,220
uh the budget committee can certainly

3979
02:55:11,220 --> 02:55:15,600
make a recommendation to uh fund money

3980
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:18,180
out of the general fund that's the only

3981
02:55:18,180 --> 02:55:20,399
other place that you can get any

3982
02:55:20,399 --> 02:55:22,620
resources all of the other funds are

3983
02:55:22,620 --> 02:55:24,300
going to be off the table for that but

3984
02:55:24,300 --> 02:55:26,700
the general fund which

3985
02:55:26,700 --> 02:55:30,300
by definition is you know everything uh

3986
02:55:30,300 --> 02:55:32,580
the budget committee and ultimately the

3987
02:55:32,580 --> 02:55:35,340
city council can decide how you want to

3988
02:55:35,340 --> 02:55:37,020
allocate that money and you are

3989
02:55:37,020 --> 02:55:40,500
certainly welcome to allocate uh either

3990
02:55:40,500 --> 02:55:43,020
uh

3991
02:55:43,020 --> 02:55:45,479
you either reduce a budget in the

3992
02:55:45,479 --> 02:55:48,060
general fund someplace by some amount to

3993
02:55:48,060 --> 02:55:51,120
put it into the cemetery or you would uh

3994
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:53,060
make a motion to

3995
02:55:53,060 --> 02:55:57,540
take that out of uh general fund ending

3996
02:55:57,540 --> 02:56:00,960
fund balance and put it into the

3997
02:56:00,960 --> 02:56:02,760
proposed budget you would have to name

3998
02:56:02,760 --> 02:56:04,859
the amount where you want to get those

3999
02:56:04,859 --> 02:56:07,439
Appropriations I would recommend that

4000
02:56:07,439 --> 02:56:10,020
you hang on to that

4001
02:56:10,020 --> 02:56:11,700
um I I will tell you the Motions that

4002
02:56:11,700 --> 02:56:13,260
are printed here are the required

4003
02:56:13,260 --> 02:56:14,939
motions for the budget committee to make

4004
02:56:14,939 --> 02:56:16,859
so the budget committee has to recommend

4005
02:56:16,859 --> 02:56:20,100
to the city council how much tax rate to

4006
02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:22,319
Levy and how much to Levy for Debt

4007
02:56:22,319 --> 02:56:24,180
Service that's motion the first motion

4008
02:56:24,180 --> 02:56:25,319
under B

4009
02:56:25,319 --> 02:56:27,600
the second motion is basically saying

4010
02:56:27,600 --> 02:56:30,359
starting with the proposed budget as

4011
02:56:30,359 --> 02:56:33,960
it's proposed you recommend moving that

4012
02:56:33,960 --> 02:56:36,479
forward and then you take amendments to

4013
02:56:36,479 --> 02:56:39,300
that so if you wanted to fund

4014
02:56:39,300 --> 02:56:42,540
the Pioneer Cemetery

4015
02:56:42,540 --> 02:56:44,819
uh five thousand dollars out of general

4016
02:56:44,819 --> 02:56:47,819
fund fund balance for example once the

4017
02:56:47,819 --> 02:56:53,220
motion is is uh red and seconded you

4018
02:56:53,220 --> 02:56:55,439
would make a motion to amend to include

4019
02:56:55,439 --> 02:56:58,260
five thousand dollars general fund money

4020
02:56:58,260 --> 02:57:01,020
using fund balance for the Pioneer

4021
02:57:01,020 --> 02:57:02,340
Cemetery

4022
02:57:02,340 --> 02:57:03,960
and then there would be a vote on that

4023
02:57:03,960 --> 02:57:05,040
motion

4024
02:57:05,040 --> 02:57:07,140
and any other amendments that would go

4025
02:57:07,140 --> 02:57:08,700
through whether you want to add things

4026
02:57:08,700 --> 02:57:10,800
or take things out whatever you want to

4027
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:13,439
put in or out then you get to and you

4028
02:57:13,439 --> 02:57:15,120
would vote on each Amendment and then

4029
02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:17,279
you would get to voting on the final

4030
02:57:17,279 --> 02:57:19,399
amended

4031
02:57:19,399 --> 02:57:22,859
motion if that makes sense would this be

4032
02:57:22,859 --> 02:57:25,260
done now or later it would be done after

4033
02:57:25,260 --> 02:57:28,260
that second motion is read and seconded

4034
02:57:28,260 --> 02:57:31,200
okay so so first do the first motion to

4035
02:57:31,200 --> 02:57:35,100
Levy taxes and the tax rate the 5.1364

4036
02:57:35,100 --> 02:57:37,319
is our maximum tax rate that we can do

4037
02:57:37,319 --> 02:57:39,359
the budget is built assuming you do that

4038
02:57:39,359 --> 02:57:43,140
again you don't have to Levy the maximum

4039
02:57:43,140 --> 02:57:47,700
tax rate you can Levy less than that would change the revenue

4040
02:57:47,700 --> 02:57:49,560
projections which would probably also

4041
02:57:49,560 --> 02:57:51,660
change expenditure projections you may

4042
02:57:51,660 --> 02:57:54,600
not recommend levying more than that but

4043
02:57:54,600 --> 02:57:56,160
you're making that recommendation to

4044
02:57:56,160 --> 02:57:57,600
city council

4045
02:57:57,600 --> 02:58:00,240
if you reduced that Levy rate when it

4046
02:58:00,240 --> 02:58:01,859
gets to city council Council can't

4047
02:58:01,859 --> 02:58:04,140
increase it so you got to know that

4048
02:58:04,140 --> 02:58:05,819
without like republishing the budget and

4049
02:58:05,819 --> 02:58:07,859
doing a bunch of other things but

4050
02:58:07,859 --> 02:58:10,080
legally this committee can make that

4051
02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:11,540
recommendation

4052
02:58:11,540 --> 02:58:13,859
you got any idea how much you think I

4053
02:58:13,859 --> 02:58:15,300
don't know how much I don't know how

4054
02:58:15,300 --> 02:58:17,399
much it would take I have no idea I was

4055
02:58:17,399 --> 02:58:21,779
at a seminar this last two weeks ago and

4056
02:58:21,779 --> 02:58:24,260
he was talking about

4057
02:58:24,260 --> 02:58:26,760
rebuilding a basic

4058
02:58:26,760 --> 02:58:29,520
monument that had fallen down one of

4059
02:58:29,520 --> 02:58:31,680
these six seven foot high

4060
02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:34,319
and it was about several thousand

4061
02:58:34,319 --> 02:58:35,340
dollars

4062
02:58:35,340 --> 02:58:38,160
to do that but I'm not saying that we

4063
02:58:38,160 --> 02:58:39,960
need to do that everything but I think

4064
02:58:39,960 --> 02:58:41,939
on a yearly basis we ought to be doing

4065
02:58:41,939 --> 02:58:43,200
something

4066
02:58:43,200 --> 02:58:45,960
rather than nothing and that's actually

4067
02:58:45,960 --> 02:58:47,819
I can speak on this a little bit

4068
02:58:47,819 --> 02:58:49,080
um there's there's a couple groups

4069
02:58:49,080 --> 02:58:51,120
coming together right now I know about

4070
02:58:51,120 --> 02:58:54,720
the Pioneer Cemetery my wife's uh is uh

4071
02:58:54,720 --> 02:58:56,939
involved with that I'm supposed to be

4072
02:58:56,939 --> 02:58:58,260
part of it but I haven't been able to

4073
02:58:58,260 --> 02:59:02,939
make it okay so so I I what I'm what the

4074
02:59:02,939 --> 02:59:04,500
way I understand it and correct me if

4075
02:59:04,500 --> 02:59:06,420
I'm wrong 7A we already passed that

4076
02:59:06,420 --> 02:59:08,939
motion yes so

4077
02:59:08,939 --> 02:59:11,460
um we can bring this up in regular

4078
02:59:11,460 --> 02:59:15,300
session and approve prove it can't we so

4079
02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:18,359
if if the non-dedicated revenue from

4080
02:59:18,359 --> 02:59:20,640
revenue sharing goes in general fund can

4081
02:59:20,640 --> 02:59:23,960
we appropriate it at a regular session

4082
02:59:23,960 --> 02:59:28,260
so uh to be clear what what you have

4083
02:59:28,260 --> 02:59:30,660
acted on is to say state revenue sharing

4084
02:59:30,660 --> 02:59:32,880
is a general fund non-dedicated Revenue

4085
02:59:32,880 --> 02:59:35,340
that is already built into the proposed

4086
02:59:35,340 --> 02:59:37,500
budget okay so when we're talking about

4087
02:59:37,500 --> 02:59:40,260
the cemetery and appropriating money

4088
02:59:40,260 --> 02:59:42,240
you are talking about creating an

4089
02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:44,160
appropriation that in the proposed

4090
02:59:44,160 --> 02:59:49,680
budget does not exist and you don't you don't have to say what the revenue

4091
02:59:49,680 --> 02:59:52,080
source is you have to say you're either

4092
02:59:52,080 --> 02:59:54,000
taking the Appropriations from something

4093
02:59:54,000 --> 02:59:55,080
else

4094
02:59:55,080 --> 02:59:57,660
and I'm going to pick on Kelly so we're

4095
02:59:57,660 --> 02:59:59,640
going to reduce the planning budget by

4096
02:59:59,640 --> 03:00:01,200
ten thousand dollars and put ten

4097
03:00:01,200 --> 03:00:02,939
thousand dollars into the Pioneer

4098
03:00:02,939 --> 03:00:04,680
Cemetery

4099
03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:06,779
because I love you

4100
03:00:06,779 --> 03:00:08,899
um or

4101
03:00:08,899 --> 03:00:11,819
if you don't want to reduce that from

4102
03:00:11,819 --> 03:00:13,800
some place that is in the budget you

4103
03:00:13,800 --> 03:00:15,960
reduce it from the ending unappropriated

4104
03:00:15,960 --> 03:00:18,180
fund balance so where we currently say

4105
03:00:18,180 --> 03:00:21,180
the ending fund balance is one point is

4106
03:00:21,180 --> 03:00:22,859
I don't even have the number right in

4107
03:00:22,859 --> 03:00:24,600
front of me as like

4108
03:00:24,600 --> 03:00:27,240
uh one and a half million dollars if you

4109
03:00:27,240 --> 03:00:29,460
wanted to to put ten thousand dollars to

4110
03:00:29,460 --> 03:00:32,220
the cemetery we would go to 1.49 million

4111
03:00:32,220 --> 03:00:34,920
dollars of ending unappropriated fund

4112
03:00:34,920 --> 03:00:36,720
balance with that ten thousand dollars

4113
03:00:36,720 --> 03:00:40,620
going to the Pioneer Cemetery to do work

4114
03:00:40,620 --> 03:00:42,540
um I I will note from staff's

4115
03:00:42,540 --> 03:00:44,580
perspective we've been

4116
03:00:44,580 --> 03:00:47,399
um we've provided information to the the

4117
03:00:47,399 --> 03:00:49,140
volunteer group that's working on the

4118
03:00:49,140 --> 03:00:51,660
cemetery stuff there are state grants

4119
03:00:51,660 --> 03:00:53,939
that we can get but to apply for those

4120
03:00:53,939 --> 03:00:55,319
grants we have to be able to say what

4121
03:00:55,319 --> 03:00:57,120
we're going to do who's going to do it

4122
03:00:57,120 --> 03:00:59,220
how much it's going to cost and what is

4123
03:00:59,220 --> 03:01:00,720
our matching and that matching can

4124
03:01:00,720 --> 03:01:03,720
include in-kind services but without an

4125
03:01:03,720 --> 03:01:06,060
organized group coming in saying we will

4126
03:01:06,060 --> 03:01:08,520
donate a hundred hours of in-kind

4127
03:01:08,520 --> 03:01:11,220
services which we can then quantify for

4128
03:01:11,220 --> 03:01:14,040
purposes of Grant and get a match we

4129
03:01:14,040 --> 03:01:16,020
have not been able to apply for any of

4130
03:01:16,020 --> 03:01:17,340
those grants there are some that are

4131
03:01:17,340 --> 03:01:18,960
historic preservation for cemeteries

4132
03:01:18,960 --> 03:01:20,880
some that could do Parks some some

4133
03:01:20,880 --> 03:01:22,920
additional work but we're really looking

4134
03:01:22,920 --> 03:01:26,700
for what the plan is that is being put

4135
03:01:26,700 --> 03:01:29,880
forward and and we don't we have nobody

4136
03:01:29,880 --> 03:01:31,740
on staff who's like a historical

4137
03:01:31,740 --> 03:01:34,140
headstone expert

4138
03:01:34,140 --> 03:01:36,420
um who knows what would be necessary to

4139
03:01:36,420 --> 03:01:38,100
restore them

4140
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:41,460
um the the work that we do there is hand

4141
03:01:41,460 --> 03:01:42,720
mowing

4142
03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:44,939
um it's got to be hand weeding we can't

4143
03:01:44,939 --> 03:01:47,399
put out pesticides we don't irrigate it

4144
03:01:47,399 --> 03:01:50,760
because we uh know that there are

4145
03:01:50,760 --> 03:01:53,399
burials where there are no headstones

4146
03:01:53,399 --> 03:01:56,640
and we don't wish to disturb the Earth

4147
03:01:56,640 --> 03:02:00,060
where that occurs so we've been kind of

4148
03:02:00,060 --> 03:02:01,979
stuck without a group that has said

4149
03:02:01,979 --> 03:02:03,960
here's what we're going to do here's the

4150
03:02:03,960 --> 03:02:09,540
plan we wish to initiate to know what if anything could be done so that's

4151
03:02:09,540 --> 03:02:11,160
what we've been waiting for us to have

4152
03:02:11,160 --> 03:02:14,220
that appropriation be made any time by

4153
03:02:14,220 --> 03:02:16,200
US during the course after the if you're

4154
03:02:16,200 --> 03:02:17,640
taking it from the general fund can't we

4155
03:02:17,640 --> 03:02:20,700
do that at any time so once the budget

4156
03:02:20,700 --> 03:02:23,100
is adopted in June

4157
03:02:23,100 --> 03:02:25,020
the only way that you would be able to

4158
03:02:25,020 --> 03:02:26,640
create that appropriation would be to

4159
03:02:26,640 --> 03:02:28,380
use general fund contingencies and

4160
03:02:28,380 --> 03:02:29,880
transfer them to for example

4161
03:02:29,880 --> 03:02:31,859
non-departmental to make a grant to a

4162
03:02:31,859 --> 03:02:34,200
group to put that together that would

4163
03:02:34,200 --> 03:02:36,779
still exist that and frankly that exists

4164
03:02:36,779 --> 03:02:37,680
today

4165
03:02:37,680 --> 03:02:39,479
you could ask to have that brought

4166
03:02:39,479 --> 03:02:41,160
forward on the June agenda if there was

4167
03:02:41,160 --> 03:02:44,040
going to be a June 2023 expenditure

4168
03:02:44,040 --> 03:02:46,560
before the new fiscal year but again

4169
03:02:46,560 --> 03:02:48,840
it's what's the plan and what's being

4170
03:02:48,840 --> 03:02:51,899
asked for and I have uh I've had nobody

4171
03:02:51,899 --> 03:02:53,399
come in saying

4172
03:02:53,399 --> 03:02:55,620
I need XD dollars this is what I would

4173
03:02:55,620 --> 03:02:57,359
do with it so I think this is part of

4174
03:02:57,359 --> 03:02:59,520
our history it's something that we're

4175
03:02:59,520 --> 03:03:01,140
just kind of shooting in the dark here I

4176
03:03:01,140 --> 03:03:02,760
think some of the other funds that are

4177
03:03:02,760 --> 03:03:05,760
in here though have are are based on

4178
03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:08,340
like donations that those groups receive

4179
03:03:08,340 --> 03:03:09,720
like I look at the police special

4180
03:03:09,720 --> 03:03:11,460
Revenue fund which is right next to the

4181
03:03:11,460 --> 03:03:13,140
Pioneer Cemetery fund the library

4182
03:03:13,140 --> 03:03:15,359
special Revenue fund the senior services

4183
03:03:15,359 --> 03:03:17,040
special Revenue fund and these all

4184
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:19,140
receive donations to help fund those

4185
03:03:19,140 --> 03:03:21,720
special projects at the senior center at

4186
03:03:21,720 --> 03:03:28,800
the library you know Shop with a cop etc I is there are we the is there not a

4187
03:03:28,800 --> 03:03:31,319
group that does this for the Pioneer

4188
03:03:31,319 --> 03:03:35,939
Cemetery it's in the formation yeah it's in the works right now they're

4189
03:03:35,939 --> 03:03:37,859
starting to come together

4190
03:03:37,859 --> 03:03:39,840
um there's a couple personalities that

4191
03:03:39,840 --> 03:03:42,479
reached out to to my wife and started

4192
03:03:42,479 --> 03:03:44,399
talking so I think that's the piece

4193
03:03:44,399 --> 03:03:47,279
we're missing yeah yeah they're bringing

4194
03:03:47,279 --> 03:03:49,260
it together right now I I would submit

4195
03:03:49,260 --> 03:03:51,660
that that at this point we'd probably

4196
03:03:51,660 --> 03:03:54,000
leave it alone let that group come

4197
03:03:54,000 --> 03:03:57,180
together formulate a plan and and move

4198
03:03:57,180 --> 03:03:59,220
on that way because I share your

4199
03:03:59,220 --> 03:04:01,439
sentiment that that it's a you go down

4200
03:04:01,439 --> 03:04:02,880
here it's just like really

4201
03:04:02,880 --> 03:04:06,000
but but at this point I think we need to

4202
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:08,700
let the let the uh that that group come

4203
03:04:08,700 --> 03:04:13,500
together do uh fundraising and uh uh re

4204
03:04:13,500 --> 03:04:15,359
try to receive donations that kind of

4205
03:04:15,359 --> 03:04:17,220
stuff and then actually come up with a a

4206
03:04:17,220 --> 03:04:20,340
really uh good plan to to address

4207
03:04:20,340 --> 03:04:22,080
because we've looked at

4208
03:04:22,080 --> 03:04:24,899
um we've talked about fencing around it

4209
03:04:24,899 --> 03:04:28,979
um improving Trails lighting cameras

4210
03:04:28,979 --> 03:04:31,439
um there's there's veterans there from

4211
03:04:31,439 --> 03:04:34,800
Civil War Spanish-American war and uh

4212
03:04:34,800 --> 03:04:36,960
war of 1812. there's not many cemeteries

4213
03:04:36,960 --> 03:04:38,580
that have those unless you go to

4214
03:04:38,580 --> 03:04:40,200
Arlington so

4215
03:04:40,200 --> 03:04:42,479
um you know maybe a flagpole but that's

4216
03:04:42,479 --> 03:04:45,240
still all uh Pie in the Sky type things

4217
03:04:45,240 --> 03:04:46,920
right now so

4218
03:04:46,920 --> 03:04:49,200
um I would submit that that maybe we

4219
03:04:49,200 --> 03:04:51,779
hold on with the current budget just for

4220
03:04:51,779 --> 03:04:53,640
maintenance let that group come together

4221
03:04:53,640 --> 03:04:57,600
get uh get organized and uh maybe

4222
03:04:57,600 --> 03:05:02,279
revisit it next year I agree so yep

4223
03:05:02,279 --> 03:05:05,640
so I take it we're on to these motions

4224
03:05:05,640 --> 03:05:07,500
I'd like to still waiting for a motion

4225
03:05:07,500 --> 03:05:10,080
I'd like to make a motion there you go I

4226
03:05:10,080 --> 03:05:12,060
move to recommend the city of Lebanon

4227
03:05:12,060 --> 03:05:14,160
City Council Levy the permanent property

4228
03:05:14,160 --> 03:05:16,979
tax rate of 5.1364 per one thousand

4229
03:05:16,979 --> 03:05:18,660
dollars of assessed value for operating

4230
03:05:18,660 --> 03:05:23,160
purposes and 1 666 one million six

4231
03:05:23,160 --> 03:05:24,779
hundred sixty six thousand one hundred

4232
03:05:24,779 --> 03:05:27,060
twenty four dollars for payment of bond

4233
03:05:27,060 --> 03:05:29,040
principal and interest

4234
03:05:29,040 --> 03:05:34,200
we have a motion do we have a second we have a second all those in

4235
03:05:34,200 --> 03:05:35,399
favor

4236
03:05:35,399 --> 03:05:37,979
aye aye aye all those opposed

4237
03:05:37,979 --> 03:05:42,779
okay we would uh entertain a second

4238
03:05:42,779 --> 03:05:46,140
motion before you do if I might

4239
03:05:46,140 --> 03:05:48,120
um so we we discussed that certainly

4240
03:05:48,120 --> 03:05:49,859
things kind of went through the process

4241
03:05:49,859 --> 03:05:52,620
a little last minute so what you have in

4242
03:05:52,620 --> 03:05:55,439
front of you is actually that motion on

4243
03:05:55,439 --> 03:05:57,000
the screen uh this is what you're

4244
03:05:57,000 --> 03:05:59,279
delivered on Friday

4245
03:05:59,279 --> 03:06:00,600
um so

4246
03:06:00,600 --> 03:06:02,700
either way what was added was some

4247
03:06:02,700 --> 03:06:05,580
contingencies in our utility funds

4248
03:06:05,580 --> 03:06:08,100
um at the last minute and so this is the

4249
03:06:08,100 --> 03:06:10,920
updated budget based on what you had in

4250
03:06:10,920 --> 03:06:12,779
your documents delivered to you last

4251
03:06:12,779 --> 03:06:14,160
week

4252
03:06:14,160 --> 03:06:16,260
well I'd like to make a motion

4253
03:06:16,260 --> 03:06:18,840
I moved to approve the fiscal year 2023

4254
03:06:18,840 --> 03:06:21,720
2024 budget in the amount of 85 million

4255
03:06:21,720 --> 03:06:22,979
three hundred twelve thousand five

4256
03:06:22,979 --> 03:06:24,840
hundred eighty eight dollars

4257
03:06:24,840 --> 03:06:27,120
as proposed by the city's budget officer

4258
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:28,439
recommended

4259
03:06:28,439 --> 03:06:30,720
and recommend the city of Lebanon City

4260
03:06:30,720 --> 03:06:33,720
Council adopt the fiscal year budget

4261
03:06:33,720 --> 03:06:37,859
it's been moved uh second seconded all

4262
03:06:37,859 --> 03:06:39,120
those in favor

4263
03:06:39,120 --> 03:06:42,000
aye aye aye all those opposed

4264
03:06:42,000 --> 03:06:44,279
okay

4265
03:06:44,279 --> 03:06:46,439
um we um we're gonna look for one more

4266
03:06:46,439 --> 03:06:48,899
motion you got one more yeah

4267
03:06:48,899 --> 03:06:50,640
is this emotion or is this an amendment

4268
03:06:50,640 --> 03:06:52,979
to the previous motion this would just

4269
03:06:52,979 --> 03:06:54,479
be a motion because you're not changing

4270
03:06:54,479 --> 03:06:56,520
the budget amount okay everybody listen

4271
03:06:56,520 --> 03:06:57,840
carefully because I don't know if I got

4272
03:06:57,840 --> 03:06:59,580
this right

4273
03:06:59,580 --> 03:07:01,020
um I'd like to make a motion to direct

4274
03:07:01,020 --> 03:07:04,439
staff to work with LDA to create a

4275
03:07:04,439 --> 03:07:06,720
quarterly payment plan based on

4276
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:08,880
adherence to state and federal financial

4277
03:07:08,880 --> 03:07:11,460
laws to fund the Main Street manager

4278
03:07:11,460 --> 03:07:13,979
position with thirty thousand dollars of

4279
03:07:13,979 --> 03:07:16,620
City provided funds

4280
03:07:16,620 --> 03:07:19,620
second thank you been moved and seconded

4281
03:07:19,620 --> 03:07:22,080
any discussion

4282
03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:23,939
all those in favor

4283
03:07:23,939 --> 03:07:26,279
aye aye aye opposed

4284
03:07:26,279 --> 03:07:28,740
motion passes

4285
03:07:28,740 --> 03:07:31,979
and with that I'm going to

4286
03:07:31,979 --> 03:07:35,220
close that hearing good job with the

4287
03:07:35,220 --> 03:07:36,319
gavel

4288
03:07:36,319 --> 03:07:39,180
a damn near broke used to it left-handed

4289
03:07:39,180 --> 03:07:43,500
and I'm going to take a 10 minute break

4290
03:07:43,500 --> 03:07:46,520
before we power through the rest of it

4291
03:07:46,520 --> 03:15:28,730
thank you

4292
03:15:28,740 --> 03:15:31,790
foreign

4293
03:15:31,800 --> 03:15:35,389
let's all start talking again

4294
03:15:35,399 --> 03:15:38,100
okay we're going to adjourn as the city

4295
03:15:38,100 --> 03:15:41,460
uh city of Lebanon budget committee and

4296
03:15:41,460 --> 03:15:43,859
reconvene as the urban renewal agency

4297
03:15:43,859 --> 03:15:45,840
budget committee

4298
03:15:45,840 --> 03:15:47,760
we just did

4299
03:15:47,760 --> 03:15:53,040
so first one FY 2023 2024 Lebanon urban

4300
03:15:53,040 --> 03:15:57,060
renewal agency budget presentation that

4301
03:15:57,060 --> 03:16:00,120
will be by Nancy and Brandon and and I'm

4302
03:16:00,120 --> 03:16:02,220
going to sum up for you because this is

4303
03:16:02,220 --> 03:16:04,560
pretty straightforward we do have five

4304
03:16:04,560 --> 03:16:07,439
urban renewal districts the budget is uh

4305
03:16:07,439 --> 03:16:11,700
included here in total we are talking

4306
03:16:11,700 --> 03:16:14,819
about a total requirements including

4307
03:16:14,819 --> 03:16:16,439
appropriated contingencies and

4308
03:16:16,439 --> 03:16:18,540
unappropriated ending balances of 5.5

4309
03:16:18,540 --> 03:16:21,540
million dollars most of that is budgeted

4310
03:16:21,540 --> 03:16:25,319
for Debt Service we do have a a piece

4311
03:16:25,319 --> 03:16:27,840
that is budgeted for capital outlay in

4312
03:16:27,840 --> 03:16:29,520
case basically in case we get an

4313
03:16:29,520 --> 03:16:32,180
opportunity to address some of the

4314
03:16:32,180 --> 03:16:34,740
projects remaining in an urban renewal

4315
03:16:34,740 --> 03:16:37,740
District these tend to be spurred by a

4316
03:16:37,740 --> 03:16:39,479
need you know raised by a private

4317
03:16:39,479 --> 03:16:42,060
developer to do something so we don't

4318
03:16:42,060 --> 03:16:44,399
have a lot here

4319
03:16:44,399 --> 03:16:46,319
um pretty straightforward but because we

4320
03:16:46,319 --> 03:16:48,359
have the five districts you do have to

4321
03:16:48,359 --> 03:16:50,819
go in and out of public hearings have a

4322
03:16:50,819 --> 03:16:53,240
motion I'm going to note for the record

4323
03:16:53,240 --> 03:16:55,740
uh the only people remaining in the room

4324
03:16:55,740 --> 03:16:57,479
are staff and none of them intend to

4325
03:16:57,479 --> 03:16:58,920
testify

4326
03:16:58,920 --> 03:17:01,859
on any of the urban renewal districts so

4327
03:17:01,859 --> 03:17:04,020
I don't think we need to call for public

4328
03:17:04,020 --> 03:17:07,020
comment and wait uh I think we can just

4329
03:17:07,020 --> 03:17:10,439
move forward but uh Brandon and I would

4330
03:17:10,439 --> 03:17:14,330
answer any questions you might have

4331
03:17:14,340 --> 03:17:16,560
I have one

4332
03:17:16,560 --> 03:17:19,200
um Nancy mentioned the Northwest urban

4333
03:17:19,200 --> 03:17:21,899
renewal tax will

4334
03:17:21,899 --> 03:17:24,779
um that only has a few more years I

4335
03:17:24,779 --> 03:17:25,680
can't remember

4336
03:17:25,680 --> 03:17:27,479
so we have Debt Service for the

4337
03:17:27,479 --> 03:17:28,979
Northwest urban renewal District that

4338
03:17:28,979 --> 03:17:31,800
lasts until 2032.

4339
03:17:31,800 --> 03:17:34,380
that is 10 more years okay okay 10 more

4340
03:17:34,380 --> 03:17:37,620
years and then that money that 959

4341
03:17:37,620 --> 03:17:39,420
000 or probably even more in 10 years

4342
03:17:39,420 --> 03:17:43,560
will go into the general fund well it is

4343
03:17:43,560 --> 03:17:45,899
returned to all of the taxing districts

4344
03:17:45,899 --> 03:17:48,120
so City fire district school district

4345
03:17:48,120 --> 03:17:49,979
right so we'll get it we'll get a large

4346
03:17:49,979 --> 03:17:51,840
cut we'll get a large cut of that more

4347
03:17:51,840 --> 03:17:54,979
than 300 000 a year in Revenue

4348
03:17:54,979 --> 03:17:59,410
that's all that was my only question

4349
03:17:59,420 --> 03:18:02,220
okay and I will ask for public comment

4350
03:18:02,220 --> 03:18:05,389
just to keep us legal

4351
03:18:05,399 --> 03:18:08,399
okay so

4352
03:18:08,399 --> 03:18:12,840
um I'm gonna open the uh proposed urban

4353
03:18:12,840 --> 03:18:16,260
renewal District taxes

4354
03:18:16,260 --> 03:18:19,140
any public comment

4355
03:18:19,140 --> 03:18:23,990
seeing none I would entertain a motion

4356
03:18:24,000 --> 03:18:26,160
I move to recommend the urban renewal

4357
03:18:26,160 --> 03:18:28,200
agency approved the Northwest Lebanon

4358
03:18:28,200 --> 03:18:30,899
urban renewal District taxes for fiscal

4359
03:18:30,899 --> 03:18:34,380
year 23-24 at the tax increment value of

4360
03:18:34,380 --> 03:18:39,779
959 488 seconds I have a motion in a

4361
03:18:39,779 --> 03:18:43,100
second all those of all those in favor

4362
03:18:43,100 --> 03:18:47,700
opposed I will close that most that

4363
03:18:47,700 --> 03:18:49,140
ring

4364
03:18:49,140 --> 03:18:52,020
and then we're going to open the cheetah

4365
03:18:52,020 --> 03:18:53,700
Lake urd

4366
03:18:53,700 --> 03:18:59,100
uh hearing any public no next do I have

4367
03:18:59,100 --> 03:19:00,779
a motion I move to recommend the urban

4368
03:19:00,779 --> 03:19:02,460
neural agency approved the cheetah Lake

4369
03:19:02,460 --> 03:19:05,580
ERD taxes for fiscal year 2324 at the

4370
03:19:05,580 --> 03:19:07,620
rate of 100 of the amount from the

4371
03:19:07,620 --> 03:19:10,680
division of tax I have motion do I have

4372
03:19:10,680 --> 03:19:13,319
a second second I have a second

4373
03:19:13,319 --> 03:19:15,479
all those in favor

4374
03:19:15,479 --> 03:19:17,899
aye aye opposed

4375
03:19:17,899 --> 03:19:24,000
closed open the Northwest Gateway urd

4376
03:19:24,000 --> 03:19:27,660
do you have any public comment nope next

4377
03:19:27,660 --> 03:19:31,130
I'll take a motion

4378
03:19:31,140 --> 03:19:32,399
third one

4379
03:19:32,399 --> 03:19:34,680
it's your turn I move to recommend the

4380
03:19:34,680 --> 03:19:36,720
urban renewal agency approved the North

4381
03:19:36,720 --> 03:19:39,540
Gateway urban renewal District taxes for

4382
03:19:39,540 --> 03:19:42,840
federal year 2324 at the rate of 100 of

4383
03:19:42,840 --> 03:19:45,420
the amount from the division of tax so I

4384
03:19:45,420 --> 03:19:47,899
have a motion do I have second second

4385
03:19:47,899 --> 03:19:52,760
all those in favor say aye aye opposed

4386
03:19:52,760 --> 03:19:56,220
closed we're going to open the hearing

4387
03:19:56,220 --> 03:20:00,720
for the downtown urd any public comment

4388
03:20:00,720 --> 03:20:04,800
nothing I'll accept a motion

4389
03:20:04,800 --> 03:20:06,840
a movie recommend the urban rural agency

4390
03:20:06,840 --> 03:20:08,819
approve the downtown ERD taxes for

4391
03:20:08,819 --> 03:20:12,300
fiscal year 23 24 at the rate of 100 of

4392
03:20:12,300 --> 03:20:15,540
the amount from the division of tax

4393
03:20:15,540 --> 03:20:18,180
I have a motion and it's seconded

4394
03:20:18,180 --> 03:20:19,920
all those in favor

4395
03:20:19,920 --> 03:20:22,979
aye aye all those opposed

4396
03:20:22,979 --> 03:20:24,600
closed

4397
03:20:24,600 --> 03:20:29,760
I'll open the Mill Race urd hearing

4398
03:20:29,760 --> 03:20:31,979
do I have a motion

4399
03:20:31,979 --> 03:20:33,840
a move to recommend the urban renewal

4400
03:20:33,840 --> 03:20:36,120
agency approved the Mill Race urd taxes

4401
03:20:36,120 --> 03:20:38,760
for fiscal year 2023-24 at the rate of

4402
03:20:38,760 --> 03:20:41,100
100 of the amount from the division of

4403
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:42,540
tax second

4404
03:20:42,540 --> 03:20:45,240
moved and seconded all those in favor

4405
03:20:45,240 --> 03:20:47,819
aye aye aye opposed

4406
03:20:47,819 --> 03:20:52,910
we will close that one

4407
03:20:52,920 --> 03:20:56,160
and we're going to go to the

4408
03:20:56,160 --> 03:20:59,160
proposed urban renewal budget I'm

4409
03:20:59,160 --> 03:21:02,410
looking for a motion

4410
03:21:02,420 --> 03:21:04,979
iMovie approved the urban renewal agency

4411
03:21:04,979 --> 03:21:07,680
fiscal year 2324 budget in the sum of 4

4412
03:21:07,680 --> 03:21:09,060
million seven hundred twenty thousand

4413
03:21:09,060 --> 03:21:10,319
eight hundred and eighty eight dollars

4414
03:21:10,319 --> 03:21:12,720
as proposed by the agency's budget

4415
03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:15,920
officer do I have a second second second

4416
03:21:15,920 --> 03:21:18,240
all those in favor

4417
03:21:18,240 --> 03:21:20,939
aye aye all those opposed

4418
03:21:20,939 --> 03:21:23,640
it passes and I'm going to adjourn the

4419
03:21:23,640 --> 03:21:26,220
urban renewal agency budget committee

4420
03:21:26,220 --> 03:21:28,319
and reconvene as the city of Lebanon

4421
03:21:28,319 --> 03:21:30,600
budget committee

4422
03:21:30,600 --> 03:21:32,520
we're going to go to

4423
03:21:32,520 --> 03:21:36,650
committee comments anything

4424
03:21:36,660 --> 03:21:38,340
I will

4425
03:21:38,340 --> 03:21:40,800
um I this is my tenth one of these for

4426
03:21:40,800 --> 03:21:42,359
the city of Lebanon

4427
03:21:42,359 --> 03:21:44,700
fifth one that somehow I ended up as the

4428
03:21:44,700 --> 03:21:47,269
chairman

4429
03:21:47,279 --> 03:21:48,600
see if we can do it again for you next

4430
03:21:48,600 --> 03:21:49,380
year

4431
03:21:49,380 --> 03:21:51,479
I will kill you

4432
03:21:51,479 --> 03:21:53,760
um I just want to say of all the budgets

4433
03:21:53,760 --> 03:21:56,340
that I've had to read starting with way

4434
03:21:56,340 --> 03:21:58,020
back when when

4435
03:21:58,020 --> 03:21:58,740
um

4436
03:21:58,740 --> 03:22:01,979
John hit was the the manager and it was

4437
03:22:01,979 --> 03:22:05,520
like playing Tetris it was with your

4438
03:22:05,520 --> 03:22:07,500
eyes closed

4439
03:22:07,500 --> 03:22:10,080
and it was you couldn't figure out who

4440
03:22:10,080 --> 03:22:13,200
hit John and there was fund transfers

4441
03:22:13,200 --> 03:22:15,359
for the darndest things and everything

4442
03:22:15,359 --> 03:22:17,160
was all over the map

4443
03:22:17,160 --> 03:22:18,680
this this

4444
03:22:18,680 --> 03:22:22,260
was I I sat down for a whole day to read

4445
03:22:22,260 --> 03:22:23,819
this thing and it took me an hour and a

4446
03:22:23,819 --> 03:22:24,359
half

4447
03:22:24,359 --> 03:22:27,000
and I understood it then I sat down and

4448
03:22:27,000 --> 03:22:29,819
read it again it took me an hour and I

4449
03:22:29,819 --> 03:22:32,520
understood it so kudos for putting

4450
03:22:32,520 --> 03:22:35,160
together something that makes a lot more

4451
03:22:35,160 --> 03:22:38,040
sense and it's more user friendly and I

4452
03:22:38,040 --> 03:22:40,319
hope that Trend continues

4453
03:22:40,319 --> 03:22:43,200
and it's just such a pleasure after the

4454
03:22:43,200 --> 03:22:47,160
ones we used to do to have this just yay

4455
03:22:47,160 --> 03:22:49,920
I concur I'm glad I have that fourth

4456
03:22:49,920 --> 03:22:51,720
grade education you were talking

4457
03:22:51,720 --> 03:22:53,100
about and I would thank you and I would

4458
03:22:53,100 --> 03:22:55,279
say Brandon and I both have

4459
03:22:55,279 --> 03:22:58,800
additional improvements coming

4460
03:22:58,800 --> 03:23:00,899
well you are a banker so fourth grade

4461
03:23:00,899 --> 03:23:03,950
it's all you need

4462
03:23:03,960 --> 03:23:07,020
yes I apologize for that

4463
03:23:07,020 --> 03:23:08,819
we were changing things at the very last

4464
03:23:08,819 --> 03:23:12,600
minute clearly as we saw it up on the board for

4465
03:23:12,600 --> 03:23:15,359
the Amendments yeah

4466
03:23:15,359 --> 03:23:18,000
um next budget meeting

4467
03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:20,160
we don't need it we don't need that this

4468
03:23:20,160 --> 03:23:22,920
will go to the City Council next in June

4469
03:23:22,920 --> 03:23:25,920
right June 14th June 14th

4470
03:23:25,920 --> 03:23:29,279
are there any other comments

4471
03:23:29,279 --> 03:23:31,700
we're