[0:00] taken to the saying you don't sweat when [0:02] you're eating [0:05] call the meeting the two order please [0:08] rise for the flag salute [0:13] allegiance to the flag of the United [0:16] States of America to The Republic which [0:19] it stands one nation under God [0:22] indivisible with liberty and justice for [0:25] all [0:28] uh will the deputy City recorder please [0:31] call roll [0:34] Jeremy Salvage here [0:37] Wayne Dykstra here here Dave Workman [0:40] here Michelle steinhabel here Carl Mann [0:44] here Rebecca Grizzle here Tom Wells [0:49] uh Josh port and Lance caddy are absent [0:53] thank you [0:54] are there any nominations for Budget [0:56] committee chair I nominated [1:00] I nominate counselor steinable I [1:03] nominate KJ offers we got three [1:05] nominations now [1:09] a second [1:10] so what are you seconding I thing nope [1:13] okay [1:15] looking to nominate KJ alfords as per [1:18] budget committee chair was made by [1:20] councilor Stein hapel hibble I screw her [1:24] name up and I apologize okay I'm so [1:26] sorry we'll get there we will and [1:28] seconded by uh [1:31] counselor Workman all those in favor say [1:34] aye [1:36] opposed nay [1:39] motion passes with [1:41] how many how many we got here four a lot [1:44] Against One [1:47] is it eight [1:50] seven years and one name [1:52] budget committee takes over the meeting [1:58] that's you now [2:04] okay [2:06] we need a nomination for a budget [2:08] committee secretary [2:13] I nominate counselor Salvage [2:18] second all those in favor [2:20] aye opposed [2:24] done really good so yeah it passes [2:26] unanimously [2:28] okay uh next we're going to look for an [2:31] approval of the May 4th 2022 budget [2:33] committee meetings [2:36] move for approval [2:40] it's been moved and seconded all those [2:42] in favor [2:43] opposed [2:47] okay it passes [2:49] and are we going to do these we've I've [2:52] not done these before we're gonna do [2:53] these now or later [2:55] would be later after we do the [2:57] presentations okay then we would do [2:59] publicly [3:00] okay at this point I'm going to turn it [3:03] over to the city manager for [3:04] presentation of the FY [3:08] 2324 budget message thank you good [3:11] afternoon and welcome everybody to the [3:13] best part of the year [3:15] um I have to say that every year because [3:17] it is the best part of the year so you [3:20] do have before you a proposed budget [3:23] this we have made some I think some [3:27] significant changes in the document [3:28] itself this year trying to give a lot [3:30] more information about resources and [3:33] uses of monies and the different funds [3:35] and trying to give more information on [3:37] the services that departments provide [3:39] I will note for the most part we are [3:43] proposing a budget that continues all of [3:45] our existing services at their existing [3:47] levels there are some notable call outs [3:49] one is this budget does not include [3:52] funding reopening the jail [3:54] and chief Stevenson will be able to [3:57] speak to this when when he comes up if [3:59] you have more specific questions but in [4:01] terms of looking at what the jail needs [4:04] we're talking at at least five permanent [4:08] staff positions Corrections Officers [4:10] that would staff the the jail 24 7 we [4:13] would have contracts for services for [4:16] mental health and medical health both of [4:18] which we would be required to provide [4:20] and and we have done in a very minimal [4:23] basis in the past but to meet best [4:26] practices it's about seven hundred fifty [4:28] thousand dollars to reopen the jail so [4:30] that's uh something for the the [4:33] committee to consider [4:36] um we have con included twenty thousand [4:38] dollars to complete an upgrade of the [4:39] city's website it's been uh eight years [4:43] since we last upgraded it we've been [4:45] notified a couple of times that our site [4:48] does not uh meet ADA requirements and [4:51] this is largely for vision impaired [4:53] people where [4:55] um things like when you post an image [4:58] you have to also post a description of [5:01] that image so someone who's having a [5:02] reader read a website [5:05] um you know who cannot see where it says [5:07] click here to go to the next thing would [5:10] have that read out loud and would be [5:13] able to make that action so we're [5:15] looking at at the need to address it uh [5:19] UPS upgrades both from cyber security [5:21] and that ADA accessibility and frankly [5:23] just a Refresh on the web page [5:25] we have included another fifty thousand [5:28] dollar increase in the sanitary sewer [5:30] lateral budget we have more than fully [5:33] expended the budget this year we have [5:35] pulled money out of the manhole project [5:37] uh and Ron was in my office the other [5:40] day saying we have already got people [5:42] lining up for July uh and may may very [5:46] well exceed our budget even with the [5:47] fifty thousand dollar increase for next [5:49] fiscal year [5:51] we have included a safety coordinator [5:53] position in Human Resources this is to [5:55] address overall safety and risk [5:57] management in the organization we've had [5:59] a pretty significant increase the last [6:02] couple of years in workers comp claims [6:04] and employees being injured on the job [6:08] and we have not done a good job of [6:10] record keeping in terms of trainings [6:12] that we have and I should say mandatory [6:14] trainings that we have had people go [6:17] through to make sure that they're doing [6:19] their ladder safety training their [6:20] forklift training those kinds of things [6:22] and frankly everybody in the [6:24] organization is stretched so thin it's [6:26] not something that we can add on to [6:28] someone else's plate saying by the way [6:30] read up on the OSHA rules make sure [6:32] you're doing your trainings and you're [6:33] documenting all that so brought in that [6:36] as a as a position in the current year [6:38] working through [6:40] using some savings from a vacant [6:42] position to make that happen [6:44] we have in the Parks fund we've included [6:47] a bump up of twenty thousand dollars for [6:50] part-time summer casual this is funded [6:53] by Bill Lebanon Trails which is going to [6:55] donate that money each year for the next [6:57] several years with that position really [7:00] dedicated to doing maintenance along the [7:02] trails there is a huge amount of Mowing [7:06] and weed control and trash pickup and [7:10] sweeping on those trails that needs to [7:11] be done in the summertime in particular [7:13] and so BLT has agreed to fund that [7:16] additional work to make sure the trails [7:19] are good [7:21] um in the custodial and building fund [7:23] we're adding a mechanic we have for a [7:25] number of years sent our vehicles to [7:27] Benton County Public Works for [7:29] maintenance that takes the vehicle out [7:31] of service for you know three or four [7:33] hours assuming that you can Buzz over [7:35] get an oil change and Buzz back that [7:39] doesn't always happen and Benton County [7:40] shop rate has gone up significantly the [7:43] last couple of years so we're going to [7:45] add a mechanic they will be doing the [7:47] maintenance on our police vehicles [7:50] Public Works vehicles are our Lynx buses [7:53] engineerings Vehicles their their [7:56] pickups and those kinds of things and we are seeing a reduction then in [8:01] what we would be paying in in that [8:03] maintenance budget across those [8:05] departments in the organization [8:08] um and finally the senior center [8:09] activities planner was bumped from a [8:11] half time to a full time as we continue [8:13] to invest in evidence-based programming [8:16] for seniors really working to try and [8:19] make sure that we are Helping Seniors [8:21] live their best lives to be healthy both [8:25] mentally and physically so lots of [8:27] classes on you know exercise and [8:30] stretching that you can do in a chair or [8:32] you can do with very low impact not [8:34] suffer injuries and then the the brain [8:37] side of it crossword puzzles games [8:39] Bridge [8:41] pinochle is back I think so trying to [8:44] make sure that we're keeping that [8:46] population going [8:48] um I will note for the Pro's proposed [8:50] budget in total at your place this is a [8:52] summary of the data that's in the book [8:55] um it's a one-pager and we did add the [8:57] proportion of variance in in terms of [9:00] the current proposed budget versus the [9:03] adopted budget our Revenue projections [9:06] are down pretty much across the board [9:08] even with property taxes up we are [9:10] seeing [9:11] reductions and assessments we're seeing [9:13] reductions in [9:16] grant money we don't have the federal [9:18] arpa dollars coming through we don't [9:21] budget grants generally until we receive [9:24] them so we can always do a supplemental [9:26] budget in the year if we get a grant but [9:29] we don't budget assuming that we're [9:30] going to get those and then appropriate [9:32] and spend money potentially that we [9:34] don't get [9:37] um our expenditures in total are down a [9:41] little bit on the operating side with [9:43] some UPS some Downs by Department [9:46] that's pretty normal for where we are [9:49] again some of that is you may have had a [9:51] department that had Grant funded program [9:52] this year and then doesn't have that [9:55] next year so they have that grant money [9:56] re removed out of their budget for next [9:59] year and so we do see some of that [10:02] moving through the course of the budget [10:04] I will note the numbers in the budget [10:07] message this table got updated very last [10:09] minute so the totals in the budget [10:11] message on page seven are off by a [10:13] little bit this is the the correct total [10:17] budget I think we found one or two minor [10:19] things that hadn't carried through in [10:21] terms of the total budget so uh work off [10:24] of those numbers [10:27] um I will focus most of my comments here [10:29] on the general fund uh the general fund [10:32] as you all know is our major [10:34] operating fund that gets property tax [10:37] money uh it is uh fiscally challenged we [10:42] are having a structural problem and I'm [10:44] going to say we are not the only ones [10:46] across the state of Oregon uh right now [10:49] most communities are in about the same [10:51] place we are in terms of working through [10:53] budget committee and city council uh [10:56] County Commission adoption of budgets [10:58] um and and if you read headlines in [11:00] multiple newspapers you see Salem is [11:04] looking at an 18 million dollar deficit [11:06] Eugene at 15 million Ontario is looking [11:09] at whether or not they ought to [11:10] Institute fees to add a police officer [11:13] so it doesn't really matter the size [11:15] communities are all in this place [11:18] where your incoming revenue is not [11:21] growing as fast as your outflow [11:22] expenditures and that mismatch for us [11:26] for the the proposed budget year is 1.2 [11:29] million dollars where we're projecting [11:31] to spend 1.2 million more than we're [11:34] bringing in we have fund balance we're [11:36] not at negative we're not deficit [11:38] spending there is uh not a cause for [11:42] severe Panic there is cause to look hard [11:46] at what the future is going to be and [11:48] how to best balance services in going [11:50] into the future to try and keep within [11:52] our resource our Revenue stream on an [11:55] annualized basis and I note uh that can [11:58] be done in several ways right you can [12:00] cut the budget you can seek new revenues [12:03] in a variety of ways you can do a [12:04] combination of those that's going to be [12:07] some work we're going to ask the council [12:08] to to take up over the coming year I I [12:12] will also note that for the first time [12:14] we have a five-year financial plan that [12:17] is in the budget this is on page 13. [12:19] this is for the general fund we're [12:21] hoping to be able to add other major [12:24] funds this really does try and project [12:27] out where we are today [12:29] and if our current trends continue into [12:32] the future where we would be in the next [12:34] five years [12:35] I'm the first person to tell you that by [12:38] definition the budget's plan the plan [12:40] never goes according to plan so I can [12:42] tell you that uh bottom line the numbers [12:45] will not be what we are projecting right [12:48] we will have years over those five years [12:50] where we'll have some years where [12:52] revenues are higher than expected and [12:54] some years where they're lower we'll [12:55] have years where we don't spend the full [12:57] budget maybe by a significant share so [13:01] for example the current year with the [13:03] police department vacancies that we have [13:05] had the police department budget will be [13:08] considerably under expended but we're [13:11] getting very close to the police [13:12] department once again being fully [13:14] staffed and I would not predict that we [13:17] would under expend to that level I would [13:19] hope we would not expend under expend to [13:22] that level next year so we see those [13:24] waves coming through the budget what we [13:27] do is try to put together a snapshot [13:29] that lets us say what actions can we [13:32] take today that will make our financial [13:35] situation and look better in the long [13:37] term [13:38] to that end staff made some Cuts in the [13:40] budgets in in there from what they [13:42] originally asked for to what is in the [13:45] document before you the cuts that we've [13:48] made are largely materials and supplies [13:50] some contracts some capital outlay [13:53] those are not going to be sustainable in [13:56] terms of maintaining our current [13:58] operations so we can cut training back [14:01] for a year in a department but sooner or [14:03] later certification requires that those [14:06] trainings be brought back to the to the [14:08] fore we can cut our computer replacement [14:10] budget for a little bit for a year but [14:15] those computers will begin to fail [14:16] upgrades will have to happen or else our [14:18] system fails so we recognize that a lot [14:20] of what has been cut to get us to this [14:22] point for this year is kind of a [14:24] one-time basis and will require more [14:27] work on an ongoing basis to to take this [14:30] community forward in time [14:34] um I would say uh I I would like to be [14:39] able to see our revenues grow I we are [14:42] still [14:44] almost 10 years from uh when we will [14:47] make our final debt payment on the [14:49] northwest urban renewal District in that [14:51] District would you know that value would [14:53] roll back on to the tax rolls [14:56] um I I would hope that we could do it [14:59] sooner than that but you do have to make [15:00] all the debt payment commitments that [15:02] you have and we are working through that [15:05] um I also will note that we continue to [15:07] try and invest in infrastructure and you [15:10] see that around the community but that [15:12] is largely being done with water and [15:15] sewer rate Revenue right it's the [15:18] monthly utility bill so uh as you've [15:21] heard Ron talk about West Side [15:23] Interceptor that's funded by the by the [15:25] Wastewater fund it's not funded by the [15:27] general fund so that work continues even [15:29] because that fund we're able to set [15:31] rates and raise the revenue we need but [15:34] it's not going to help us in the general [15:36] fund where we we can't raise those rates [15:39] at this point [15:42] um for the future again I I think the [15:45] general fund is the the largest area of [15:47] concern I think we recognize the need [15:50] for additional police officers we would [15:53] like to be able to reopen the jail [15:54] that's going to be a heavy lift [15:58] um I think the senior center needs to [15:59] have at least one more activities [16:01] planner offering services in the in the [16:03] post covet environment we are seeing [16:05] more and more people using that facility [16:08] as as they feel safe to do [16:11] um we don't have a public information [16:13] officer we don't have a disaster [16:15] management planner both of those are [16:17] positions I think are important and both [16:20] of those positions would function in in [16:22] part internally within the organization [16:24] but also in part with Communications [16:26] with the community there is a lot to be [16:29] said for a disaster management planner [16:32] doing [16:33] community trainings based on what should [16:37] you be prepared for how do you pack a go [16:39] bag what should be in those GO bags how [16:41] do you know who's in your neighborhood [16:43] and when the big one hits or the flood [16:45] hits or the Fire Hits who do you need to [16:48] make sure is okay you know did were you [16:51] able to get out of the house are you [16:52] safe who was where do we have vulnerable [16:55] members that are in my block that I can [16:57] watch out for [16:59] I will tell you that our parks [17:01] department is understaffed I know a lot [17:04] of you use the trails when you walk [17:06] along those Trails pay attention to how [17:08] much space there is on both sides of [17:09] those trails that need to be mowed need [17:12] to be weeded need to be attended to [17:14] maintained cleaned in addition to all of [17:18] our parks and our Sports fields and [17:21] maintaining all of those there's a lot [17:23] of work that that is done by public [17:26] works on a routine basis and Jason and [17:29] his crews make a good good job of kind [17:31] of moving people who are the highest [17:33] demand is at any given time but we do [17:36] need to invest more in our Parks [17:38] maintenance and our and and our [17:40] facilities there particularly as we see [17:42] the cheetah Lake Project coming forward [17:44] in the next couple of years and [17:46] expansions and expanded use of that Park [17:48] expanded use will mean expanded [17:51] maintenance also [17:53] I note that we continue to have no [17:55] resources to fix local streets what we [17:58] get from the state every year in gas tax [18:00] money is not enough we do Street [18:04] projects as we can so again with Ron [18:07] you've heard a lot of discussion about [18:09] the 7th Street water line that's become [18:11] water line sewer line storm water line [18:13] and street so that will address that [18:17] section of 7th Street but again you all [18:19] know driving around town our residential [18:22] streets are in bad shape and we don't [18:24] have money coming in for that we [18:27] continue to see decreases in state gas [18:30] tax money as more people switch to EVS [18:32] or as gas mileage is going up and we see [18:35] the state trying to figure out how [18:37] they're going to [18:39] manage both the demand that ODOT has for [18:42] needing more resources and the demand [18:44] that cities and Counties have in terms [18:45] of how we get resources to maintain our [18:48] local streets [18:49] that is coming a conversation at the [18:52] state level but it it also needs to be a [18:55] conversation at the local level because [18:56] I don't believe the state is going to [18:58] come with money that says you know [19:00] here's enough that you can [19:02] replace or repair 10 blocks of local [19:06] streets every year that that you know [19:09] every Community has a need for [19:13] um I know we're completing the [19:14] wastewater treatment plant master plan [19:16] that should be coming to the council for [19:19] review later this summer or early fall I [19:23] think we have every expectation that is going to lay out a series of [19:27] needed improvements at the wastewater [19:28] treatment plant that are going to be [19:30] costly as we watch our neighbors sweet [19:33] home that's gone from a 20 million [19:36] dollar plant to a 40 million dollar [19:37] plant to a 55 million dollar plant same [19:39] plant just the cost driving up this the [19:43] those needs that's going to put more [19:45] pressure on our Wastewater rates in [19:48] terms of the need to fund those services [19:50] and meet the requirements [19:53] um I'll tell you we're watching at the [19:54] federal level as the federal government [19:58] looks at per end polyfluorinated [20:01] substances pfas you'll hear a lot more [20:04] about this I'm pretty sure over the [20:06] coming years that are in drinking water [20:08] or not in drinking water we aren't [20:09] really sure [20:11] um but there is a movement to require [20:14] local water service providers to treat [20:17] for pfas and to make sure those are not [20:21] in your water and if we have them in our [20:23] water that will be expansion of some [20:25] kind likely at the water treatment plant [20:27] I'll tell you I'm hoping for federal [20:29] money to come in and pay for that as [20:32] they drive that because they certainly [20:34] recognize [20:35] that there is a significant need for uh [20:40] for communities to address their water [20:42] infrastructure but I can't hold my [20:45] breath anymore that the federal [20:46] government is going to fund what the [20:48] federal government requires us to do so [20:50] we're watching it [20:51] we're starting to look at what that [20:53] might involve [20:55] I know that we are likely to reach a [20:58] population of 20 000 this year or next [21:00] year [21:01] we'll see those numbers come out in in [21:04] December from Portland State University [21:08] um all kinds of things are happening as [21:10] we switch into that we're no longer [21:12] considered a rural community that moves [21:15] us out of a pot of rural grants that was [21:17] pretty easy to get just call up and say [21:20] hey we need some money for this thing [21:21] and you'd have a couple people at the [21:23] state say yeah let's help you as a rural [21:24] community you need that help at at even [21:27] our current population they kind of say [21:29] yeah you can do that on your own [21:32] um and the grants get more complex they [21:34] get bigger they have more strings [21:36] attached to them they need more work to [21:38] apply for them more work to manage them [21:41] as we go forward in time but I always [21:44] like being able to get a grant to fund a [21:46] significant project that the community [21:48] needs because we have such a hard time [21:50] raising that money locally [21:54] um I also will say that that starts [21:55] adding more responsibilities to some [21:57] extent you all are seeing that the [21:59] council is seeing that as we work [22:00] through things like the housing [22:01] production strategy bills that are [22:04] moving in the current legislative [22:06] session are moving that to a state [22:08] coming in and telling you if you're over [22:10] ten thousand here's what you have to do [22:13] on Housing Development to get more [22:15] affordable housing more housing and [22:17] total built in the community we're going [22:19] to continue to see those things drive as [22:21] the state says if you're over ten [22:23] thousand we will have another jump when [22:25] we get to 25 000 which is a couple of [22:27] years off but uh but maybe not that far [22:30] and so I think those are going to put [22:33] pressures on us and our ability to [22:35] provide services to the community and [22:39] continue to do that uh at [22:42] and maintain everything else that we're [22:45] doing [22:46] um I'm going to close by saying I [22:48] appreciate the work that staff does [22:50] every year in terms of pulling the [22:52] budget together for us we've spent a lot [22:55] of time working on this and I appreciate [22:58] Brandon and his group I I think Brandon [23:00] did a good job of bringing more [23:02] information into the budget about what [23:04] we do and why we do it where the revenue [23:06] comes from the assumptions that we're [23:08] making about what's happening with those [23:11] revenues uh and and being clear with [23:13] those assumptions to say it you know [23:16] assumptions that prove to be wrong give [23:19] us some opportunity to make amendments [23:21] going forward so with that I'm going to [23:23] stop and answer questions if there are [23:26] any [23:28] are there any questions [23:32] just curious how many do we know how [23:33] many are in our Fleet of City vehicles I [23:36] should probably know that but I don't [23:37] know how many there is and I think it's [23:39] a lot [23:41] um [23:43] I I think uh I'm I'm looking up at [23:46] Jason's got a billion 25 [23:50] oh [23:52] 75 total [23:54] okay thank you so that you know I mean [23:56] you you have to think about that [23:57] includes mowers and that's everything [24:00] what is that the Sheep's foot that [24:02] trumps down gravel things so we've got a [24:05] lot of of kind of peculiar machines in [24:09] addition to Vehicles things like the [24:10] vectors the street sweepers require a [24:12] lot of attention [24:16] any other questions for Nancy [24:19] okay let's go on to the presentation of [24:22] budget of Department budgets [24:25] Nancy okay so we're going to have [24:28] directors come up [24:30] um and we're going to try and do this in [24:31] a timely way so we're going to start [24:33] with Kendra Antilla our library director [24:36] Frank Stevenson will come up because [24:38] he's next up they're going to give you [24:41] and as we go through this you're going [24:42] to get [24:44] four to six minutes five minutes ish [24:46] presentation highlights of the budget [24:49] and then have the opportunity to ask [24:51] questions and uh getting any other [24:54] information that you need or would like [24:55] to have from a department director [25:04] okay here we go [25:07] good afternoon everyone [25:09] if you've heard me talk about the [25:11] library ever you've heard me say that we [25:13] are more than books [25:16] um it always amazes me that people who [25:18] are not Library users have no idea that [25:20] we also have movies music audio books [25:23] magazines newspapers we have a library [25:27] of things almost exclusively Grant [25:30] funded in that collection our patrons [25:33] can check out things like a microscope a [25:35] telescope a sewing machine [25:37] electronic drum keyboard specialty cake [25:41] pans a bird watching kit engineering and [25:44] robotics kits [25:46] toy cash register for kids to learn [25:48] about money a Puppet Theater board games [25:52] we also have a seed Library that's all [25:56] donated seeds from wholesalers where [25:59] patrons can check out a variety of seeds [26:02] between the physical and digital items [26:04] in our collection we check out roughly [26:07] 150 000 items annually [26:12] we also have public computers we have [26:15] Wi-Fi blazing fast Wi-Fi inside the [26:18] building and outside the building [26:20] it's important to remember that in-home [26:24] internet is a luxury not everyone can [26:26] afford and or if you're in a rural area [26:29] it's just not possible [26:32] so um if you notice in the budget report [26:35] I did a [26:37] there's an impact report graphic [26:40] we had over 75 000 Wi-Fi connections in [26:44] the past year and close to 11 [26:46] 000. internet uses of our in-house [26:50] computers we also have study rooms that [26:53] are constantly busy there's only three [26:56] of them but they're heavily used by the [26:58] public for tutoring for job interviews [27:00] for Zoom meetings for supervised [27:04] visitation even they get a lot of use [27:06] for a lot of different things [27:08] we're also part of the Lynn Library [27:11] Consortium that is a reciprocal [27:14] agreement between Albany Sweet Home Scio [27:17] Harrisburg and Lebanon Public Libraries [27:19] as well as Lynn Benton Community College [27:21] we started that Consortium in 2017. [27:25] that allows my patrons Lebanon patrons [27:28] can check out items from any of those [27:30] libraries at no cost to them [27:33] they can choose to have it delivered to [27:35] the Lebanon Library via Courier or they [27:37] can go to any of those libraries and use [27:39] their Lebanon card at those libraries [27:42] the only cost involved is the cost for [27:46] The Courier that cost me about two [27:48] thousand dollars a year and Lebanon [27:50] patrons checked out close to ninety [27:53] thousand dollars worth of materials from [27:55] those other libraries in just the past [27:57] year [27:59] and a big part of what we do is [28:01] programming programming is huge [28:04] um we do story times of course early [28:08] literacy is crucial and we all benefit [28:11] from a more literate Society we have [28:14] preschool and baby story times there [28:17] have been 59 story times since September [28:20] we take we do summer reading and then we [28:23] start up again with story times in [28:24] September so since September there have [28:26] been 59 story times the average [28:28] attendance is 44 people at those story [28:31] times [28:32] we also have adult book club we have [28:35] game night we have Sugo which stands for [28:38] show up geek out that's stem programming [28:41] for children we have a teen Advisory [28:43] Group that plans all kinds of teen [28:45] activities we do [28:47] um huge public events during Spring [28:49] Break and summer reading [28:53] um and we do often just sporadic story [28:56] events for other things we recently had [28:59] the Audubon Society come out and do a [29:01] bird talk and then they took people [29:04] outside gave them [29:06] um [29:06] binoculars and showed him a bunch of [29:09] cool things we do family game nights we [29:12] recently did um one where they did a [29:15] Nerf we handed out Nerf guns and safety [29:18] glasses to everyone and they played [29:19] Capture the Flag [29:21] um we and then candy bar Bingo we [29:24] recently had a Star Wars night on May [29:26] the 4th we had 305 attendees at that [29:29] event family events free fun safe family [29:35] programming is a huge deal and it's [29:37] something that we offer to the public [29:38] and anytime we do we just have massive turnouts for [29:43] things like that [29:44] all programming is free it's open to [29:47] everyone no library card is required [29:50] and that's a little summation of what we [29:53] do [29:55] thank you any any questions from anybody [29:59] nothing okay thank you ma'am thanks [30:07] we're gonna have Frank up next [30:19] good afternoon everyone [30:22] how's everyone doing [30:26] I'm doing great thanks I believe uh our [30:29] budget uh for the police department's on [30:31] page 45 in case you guys need to [30:33] reference that [30:35] um just a quick synopsis of what the [30:37] police department consists of we uh [30:40] 42 [30:42] budgeted uh for full-time employees [30:46] um [30:46] uh We've as suggested or as stated [30:51] um [30:51] the jail is is the number one topic [30:54] right now is how we're going to reopen [30:57] that and how are we going to fund that [30:59] um [31:00] that's kind of a pretty big deal [31:03] um and it's something that's going to be [31:04] a heavy lift in the in the coming years [31:06] to figure out how we are going to make [31:10] that happen [31:12] um I've included in the presentation for [31:16] you guys to review is just a few graphs [31:18] and [31:20] um rather than going over all those [31:22] graphs I figured I would just leave it [31:23] up to you guys if you had any questions [31:24] in regards to that but one in particular [31:28] um [31:29] to pay attention to is just the rise in [31:31] population and the decrease in the [31:33] number of officers [31:35] also another one is the use of force you [31:39] see that the use of force is definitely [31:41] on the uptick and on the uprise [31:43] with the number of officers decreasing [31:47] some highlights as far as something that [31:51] as you guys are very much aware of we've [31:54] been short staffed over the last year [31:56] and a half [31:58] I'm happy to say though to report to you [32:01] that uh we've hired seven since the [32:05] beginning of the year it says six in [32:06] here but I just hired another one last [32:08] week so we're definitely on the uptick [32:11] on getting us back to fully stuffed I [32:14] have two [32:15] remaining that are in backgrounds right [32:18] now if we get those through backgrounds [32:19] and Sykes and everything we'll be back [32:21] to fully staffed so that's something [32:23] that [32:24] I made a goal or you know my me and my [32:27] Administration made a goal within a year [32:29] to get us back to fully staffed and [32:31] we're reaching that goal so [32:34] um [32:36] there's a lot to say but I don't know [32:39] what kind of questions you guys have so [32:41] I'm just going to leave it up to you [32:43] guys [32:47] well I have a question it's more for [32:49] maybe directed at Nancy [32:52] um on these one of the variants on the right side there for police it's 4.2 [32:57] is that is that to to uh address and [33:01] just [33:02] the economic inflationary period we're [33:05] in or how how do you describe that okay [33:08] so uh as as we noted uh we have two [33:13] labor units American Federation of State [33:16] County Municipal Employees which is our [33:18] general Service Unit Teamsters which is [33:20] everybody except the four management [33:22] positions in the just well in the police [33:25] department so records evidence all of [33:28] the police officers sergeants [33:30] those units have Labor agreements in the [33:33] case of the police department they have [33:34] an existing agreement that doesn't [33:36] expire until June 30th of 24 and that [33:40] agreement sets out what their cost of [33:43] living adjustments are so they're [33:45] getting uh everyone in the unit is [33:48] getting a four percent Cola and then we [33:50] have a one percent I'm going to make [33:52] sure I'm doing this right a one percent [33:53] Market adjustment for officers and [33:56] sergeants who uh in our last [33:59] negotiations were behind Market [34:02] um any officer and and with seven new [34:04] officers coming uh on board uh hopefully [34:08] soon to be nine uh they start at step [34:11] one on the pay scale but then they get [34:14] step increases at six months I don't [34:17] remember now the the timing so they [34:19] might get an additional five percent [34:21] step increase and with more young [34:24] officers on on payroll we've got more [34:27] officers getting that step increase I [34:30] think police kept their materials and [34:32] services budget relatively flat but like [34:36] everybody else you know [34:38] um it it we are seeing cost increases [34:42] that are general cost increases but I [34:44] think the the Staffing costs are a big [34:46] issue at the police department [34:49] um [34:50] I think it's important to remember we're [34:51] a service organization and that's people [34:53] and it does cost to have people and to [34:57] have the you know the salaries the [35:00] benefits all of that [35:02] and then this is for the chief uh and I [35:04] probably know this but DHS is that [35:07] what's the acronym stand for Department [35:09] of Human Services so it's it's uh you [35:12] know we're taking Homeland Security for [35:14] a second I was like no that that can't [35:15] be it so yeah yeah I mean you'll see in [35:18] the in the graphs and such that uh the [35:20] number of calls kind of have remained [35:22] the same increased a little bit but the [35:25] nature of the calls um that we're [35:27] dealing with in regards to what we used [35:29] to deal with have become a lot more [35:31] complex [35:33] um what DHS referrals that's that's [35:35] child welfare is is um uh but more [35:39] seriousness crimes that we're [35:41] investigating mental health aspect [35:43] um of course the healthlessness so a lot [35:47] of these components are taking up a lot [35:49] of majority of our time leaving us to we [35:52] unfortunately is is we're a reactive [35:54] department and that's something that [35:56] Lebanon Police Department [35:58] in a in a hole is never uh we've always [36:02] prided ourselves on being proactive [36:05] um well these last couple years we've [36:07] been slowly going into the just the [36:10] reactive side of things and that's just [36:12] due to the the amount of officers that [36:14] we have lost and [36:16] um and just the lack of resources that [36:19] we've had available to us [36:22] um [36:22] yeah one thing I found interesting is [36:24] the national average and I put that in [36:26] there just for you guys to review [36:29] um it shows that national average is [36:30] what 2.2 per month out 2.2 officers per [36:33] 1000 [36:35] um right now if I was fully staffed that [36:38] leaves us with 1.6 [36:40] so we're below average and I take that [36:43] 26 number and that includes myself that [36:46] includes all of my administrative staff [36:48] and detectives you take them out of the [36:50] mix [36:51] that leaves us with 19 Patrol [36:54] that leaves us below one [36:58] so we're like a point I'm not a [37:01] mathematician but if I was to do it [37:03] definitely is below one percent or one [37:06] per 1000 population so definitely are [37:10] way below national average [37:12] and as we're seeing [37:15] within the city the livability issues [37:17] and that's strictly what we deal with [37:19] the thefts are increasing burglaries are [37:22] increasing stolen cars are increasing [37:24] and that's just that goes along with not [37:27] enough [37:28] there to react to what's going on out [37:31] there [37:34] I I had a question uh I understand that [37:37] 2.2 and 1.6 and when you strip out the [37:40] overhead folks it's like 0.8 yeah how does that compare with the rest of [37:47] the valley I mean [37:49] we can't be the only ones that are [37:51] suffering this [37:52] I don't think we're the only ones [37:54] suffering this I don't think we're I [37:55] think we're definitely one that are this [37:57] low [37:58] for sure [38:01] I I would note some of the rest of the [38:04] valley communities have put in place [38:07] fees on utility bills and they are [38:10] paying for police officers with that [38:13] or they have a local option Levy that is [38:15] funding police officers and and those [38:19] two solutions seem to be [38:22] um uh what a lot of communities are [38:24] doing to try and increase their their [38:26] Public Safety Staffing I I also will [38:29] note that with the increased complexity [38:32] of the calls that the police department [38:34] is going on [38:35] it becomes uh critical to have more than [38:39] one officer responding uh it's it's a [38:42] you know one officer pulls you over to [38:44] give you a speeding ticket but if you're [38:46] on a domestic if you're working on [38:48] livability issue you've got mental [38:49] health issues you need at least two [38:51] officers and sometimes you need four to [38:54] make sure that that the person you're [38:57] working with is safe and your officers [38:59] are safe and I think that is [39:02] uh I think that is driving the need for [39:06] more officers uh in in all communities [39:10] and I you know we're not we're not alone [39:12] in dealing with with these challenges [39:14] and the continued lack of Mental Health [39:16] Resources uh that can that that is a [39:20] challenge for everybody in the state of [39:23] Oregon right now right I'm just [39:24] wondering if we're facing this alone or [39:26] if or how other people are are handling [39:29] this situation [39:31] just food for thought what we might do [39:34] yeah I mean there's there's always you [39:36] know I meet with other local [39:38] jurisdictions on a bi-monthly basis and [39:41] I mean some they're facing some of the [39:44] same challenges we are when it comes to [39:46] mental health and and lack of resources [39:48] like every other agency is and I'm not [39:51] saying that we're the only one but I [39:54] think it's imperative to understand that [39:55] we're are pretty much the only one [39:57] that's this low [39:59] and and I think that's something that [40:01] you know is something that we all need [40:03] to understand and then there needs to [40:05] come to a point where everything that [40:08] the Lebanon Police Department's known [40:09] for community policing Outreach [40:12] proactivity things of that nature is [40:14] slowly being diminished slowly going [40:16] away because I don't have the resources [40:18] simply put to to address those I have to [40:22] respond to calls that's the number one [40:24] priority right well you haven't had the [40:26] resources for a while no I mean and just [40:28] to mention yes I have hired people but [40:30] it's going to take them probably another [40:31] 8 18 months before they're legitimately [40:34] out on their own and being productive [40:36] members of the police department not [40:38] saying they're not productive now or or [40:39] appreciated but right now they're just [40:43] being trained so and that's just the [40:45] process that we have to go through right [40:46] there's no quick fix to this no it's [40:49] been a slow and steady climb I mean [40:51] we're we're getting there and [40:54] um you know we're seeing the light at [40:56] the end of the tunnel I wish the light [40:57] was a lot brighter but it is what it is [41:01] um but we're getting there good right [41:09] introducing a levy to address the jail [41:14] we have not but that is something that I [41:17] think is in the future to discuss is [41:19] something a local Levy to address just the gel I don't necessarily want it [41:25] to be a police operational operational [41:28] but if it could if it could address that [41:30] piece it would it would address some of [41:33] the other issues by default that a [41:37] hundred percent agree yeah if we can [41:39] open up the jail and be able to house [41:41] individuals and hold them accountable [41:43] for committing some of the local thefts [41:46] and things of that nature I mean we can [41:48] you can see in the grass kind of where [41:51] the crime was starting to come down our [41:53] jail was open [41:55] um the traffic offenses were going down [41:57] because I had people out there dedicated [41:59] to traffic so you can see when when [42:02] things are in place and operating as [42:04] they should be crime rate goes down [42:06] things go down we're being more [42:08] proactive so in regards to the jail [42:10] absolutely if we were able to [42:12] somehow find a way to fund the jail the [42:15] way that it needs to be funded and have [42:17] the dedicated employees just strictly [42:20] for the jail that would definitely start [42:23] we just definitely start seeing a [42:24] decrease in livability issue thefts and [42:28] things of that nature because we'd be [42:29] able to hold people accountable I was a [42:31] long-winded answer wasn't it that was [42:33] really long [42:34] I can keep going [42:36] no I can't say [42:40] it's largely [42:42] of the police department and I think [42:44] that that would be something worthy of [42:47] exploring and because we we do have high [42:49] expectations of you because we we have a [42:51] good history of of response and of [42:55] service from the Lebanon Police [42:56] Department but that I mean having been [42:59] part of that that jail decision and [43:02] seeing the impact on the city [43:05] um I think it really behooves us to [43:07] painfully explore how to get that back [43:10] open yeah and I fully agree with you I'm [43:13] not very good at math or algebra but is [43:16] there a way to quantify what it costs us [43:17] to not have a jail [43:19] is there any well you can see together [43:21] to get an idea what it cost not to have [43:23] a jail yeah uh well you can see in the [43:25] budget the the cuts that have been made [43:28] um if if again it's you're talking 750 [43:32] 000 roughly for personnel and medical so [43:35] there's 750. if we had a jail what cost [43:39] would we be eliminating is there a way [43:41] to quantify that [43:42] I mean [43:43] or is that oh this algebra yeah that's [43:47] this that's yeah that's your algebra [43:48] thing you still have I mean yeah you [43:50] could take materials and services which [43:51] is roughly about fifty thousand dollars [43:54] so [43:55] but I don't think you can put a price on [43:57] safety and I don't think you can [43:59] definitely put a price would we be safer [44:00] how would we be safer in Lebanon if we [44:03] had a jail right now how would we be [44:05] safe would we be able to put people in [44:06] jail [44:07] again [44:09] and help people accountable instead of [44:11] the heavy lifting of the cost of having [44:13] the J having to have a jail what's it [44:15] costing us to not have a jail that [44:17] serves us I can see the difference so I [44:19] guess kind of rhetorical question but I [44:21] agree we need to we need to explore that [44:23] and find a way that that's a priority [44:25] and not just brush that off yeah I think [44:28] where he's going is uh how many fewer [44:30] water snakes would we have how many [44:32] fewer I see what you're saying would we [44:34] have and we could probably figure that [44:36] within reason based on prior statistics [44:40] where it was open and that's that's some [44:42] of the things that again if some of the [44:44] graphs will show a kind of a decrease [44:46] when we had the gel up and we had that [44:48] we definitely had a decrease in the [44:50] amount of thefts and larceny and kind of [44:52] the livability issues this the low level [44:55] crimes misdemeanor offenses that were [44:57] going on [44:59] um so because they didn't want to go to [45:01] 11 in jail they didn't want to go to [45:02] jail so and we were able to hold them [45:04] accountable but without that without [45:06] that useful tool in Lebanon is extremely [45:09] unique or one of the very few [45:11] municipalities that has the capability [45:14] and has a jail and lebanon's gel is by [45:18] far one of the best gels in the state [45:21] far as municipality wise goes if you've [45:23] gone around and toured other ones we [45:25] have the most state-of-the-art equipment [45:27] and and it's set up perfectly [45:30] if we only had the Personnel to run it [45:32] so it also helped with the homeless I'm [45:35] just I'm just want to be on record that [45:36] I'd support it might be a heavy lift but [45:38] I'm I'm behind lifting it if we can [45:41] yeah I'm sorry I did yeah I was I I [45:44] he'll support you too I figured you [45:47] would yeah absolutely Chief you you said [45:49] were seven or you've hired seven [45:52] officers with their recent hire where [45:55] does that put it is that seventh [45:57] position fully staffed as far as sworn [46:00] officers uh no I need two more two more [46:04] and then I'll be fully staffed this is [46:06] the does the budget for 23 24 account [46:09] for two more yes yeah that the budget [46:13] will give us fully a fully staffed [46:14] Police Department right yeah that will [46:16] give me 42 total employees correct yeah [46:20] okay I have a question so um actually [46:23] two questions first uh looking at the [46:25] types of crimes per year I've seen [46:27] narcotics is down is this is kind of a [46:29] leading question but is that due to [46:30] measure 110. that is a 100 reflection of [46:34] measure 110. [46:36] um where drugs and narcotics are very [46:39] prevalent in our community there's not a lot that we can do with that um [46:43] there's it's not a it basically is not a [46:46] crime you get a a citation that you [46:49] don't have to appear in and don't have [46:50] to pay for so yes to answer the question [46:52] it's gone down because it's basically no [46:56] longer criminalized [46:57] okay which is a very sad sad thing I [47:00] agree I agree [47:02] um the the second question is uh looking [47:04] at the types of crimes crimes I guess it [47:07] says mental um and that clearly has like [47:10] a a pretty huge Spike there it looks [47:12] like almost 200. [47:14] um [47:15] how how are how is [47:18] how are the police officers equipped to [47:20] deal or to work through a mental health [47:22] call Art um especially now that we're [47:25] going to have you know seven seven new [47:27] people I just want to make sure that [47:29] they're receiving what they need to to [47:31] answer those particularly challenging [47:33] calls I imagine yeah so there is [47:36] training that's out there available [47:38] um that we try to send the officers to try to equip them with the most tools [47:42] that they can have when it comes to [47:44] dealing with mental health but no matter [47:46] how much training that we provide them [47:49] they're still not going to be that [47:50] individual or they're not going to have [47:52] the expertise to to do so so but we do [47:56] train them to the best we can on [47:59] um you'll notice also within the there [48:02] was materials and services under [48:04] training we did have to reduce some of [48:06] that [48:07] um training that is specialized that [48:10] specialize what we consider specialized [48:12] training is mental health [48:14] dealing with the mentally health uh [48:16] individuals so [48:18] um so we're going to have to figure out [48:20] other ways in other avenues we do rely [48:23] heavily on Lane County Mental Health so [48:27] they they do offer some some trainees [48:29] and they do have Outreach but [48:31] unfortunately like the rest of society [48:34] they had a hard time trying to fill [48:35] positions and trying to get people up [48:37] and trained and trying to get an [48:38] Outreach team together [48:40] there's there's a few and there's very [48:42] few and far between their servicing Lane [48:44] County and there's I think four of them [48:47] so wow yeah [48:50] I'd like to come back and ask the chief [48:52] uh I I thought councilor steinhabel [48:54] asked a really good question about [48:56] narcotics arrests the flip side of that [48:59] ballpark increased use of Narcan oh [49:03] because I I know that that has been and [49:06] is an ongoing issue yeah [49:09] um Narcan is I don't know if you guys [49:11] are familiar with what Narcan does okay [49:14] um but yeah we we've definitely since [49:17] measure 110 has passed we've had a very [49:19] steady increase on the usage of officers [49:22] responding to [49:24] individuals who are unresponsive [49:27] overdosing and have increased our usage [49:30] of of use using Narcan [49:33] so uh and that's it's it's it's it's not [49:37] uncommon for it's a weekly occurrence [49:39] but the nasal spray I assume it's the [49:42] name yeah it's nasal spray and we occur [49:45] the incur that cost then as yeah right [49:48] now we don't [49:49] um it's kind of paid for already but um [49:51] there's gonna come a time when that's [49:54] also going to be something that we need [49:55] to budget in [49:57] um so increase in drug use increases [49:59] that overdoses so [50:02] I know we see them uh the police come by [50:05] the soup kitchen probably once a week we [50:09] get the mentally unstable individuals [50:12] every day [50:14] um and I when watching them you could [50:17] tell they're trained and basically about [50:19] all they can do really is de-escalate [50:22] the folks and kind of move them along [50:24] there's not a lot of options unless they [50:27] uh act out [50:29] and I know we've started the Narcan [50:32] thanks to the police over at this over [50:34] at the soup kitchen [50:36] and we've had to use it over there as [50:39] they come in for males we get the same [50:40] thing it's a lot more common [50:43] it's a shame that my Cooks have to learn [50:46] how to be Lifesavers [50:48] but that's the reality of where we're at [50:53] yeah [50:54] well I'm just going to add [50:56] um that I just want to say thank you to [50:58] you and the police department especially [51:00] the admin team of course the officers as [51:02] well but I know over this last year [51:04] things have been challenging and you've [51:06] had to fill in for doing a patrol and as [51:10] well as the other like the lieutenants [51:12] and certainly Captain Hyde even just the [51:15] other night we had a very busy council [51:16] meeting and I saw the two lieutenants [51:18] here so [51:19] um [51:20] just thank you for for your persistence [51:23] and uh in trying to get us fully staffed [51:27] so thank you I appreciate it yeah it's [51:30] definitely been here we had a call with [51:31] you this morning and you were right [51:32] there at Linco thank you well I wasn't [51:34] but I would have been John but I wasn't [51:36] well I would say if you call them if you [51:38] call them with a stolen vehicle it's [51:40] shift change [51:42] um you'll get a real good response and [51:45] you'll get the chief calling you from [51:46] around the corner hey where you at [51:49] so yeah I I have to say and this is [51:52] probably in my in my career uh this last [51:55] past year and a half has probably been [51:57] one of the most challenging that I've [51:59] ever faced um not only looking at it [52:02] from a patrol officer's perspective but [52:04] also from my own Chief's perspective [52:07] um it has been extremely challenging [52:09] with low Staffing levels and but the men [52:13] and women of your Police Department [52:16] um and they're doing an exceptional job [52:19] with what they have up in front of them [52:22] and what they're dealing with sometimes [52:23] just two of them [52:25] I'm out there patrolling the city with [52:28] 19976 population I think that's the [52:30] number but to say that uh [52:34] um that's when it it's definitely been a [52:37] challenge so but they're doing an [52:40] exceptional job [52:42] okay any other questions [52:45] well I I will make my pitch again like I [52:48] do almost every meeting go out and get [52:51] with Chief and go out and ride go see [52:53] what they do in person you'd just be [52:55] amazed at the stuff that they split from [52:58] switch to switch when the calls come in [53:01] thanks Frank get that [53:04] okay next would be Senior Center Kendra [53:08] Oliver [53:16] good afternoon [53:19] um I'll I guess I'll start with the [53:21] senior center [53:22] um it's on page 48 if you wanted to [53:25] follow along [53:27] um just hit some highlights here we have [53:30] 2.25 FTE in the senior center budget [53:33] it's 0.75 for the director position and [53:38] actually a good chunk of that is used [53:40] for match for the lynx Transit program [53:44] for one of our federal grants [53:47] we have a full-time activities uh [53:50] coordinator position which Nancy uh [53:52] spoke of earlier and then we also have a [53:55] 0.5 shared position it's a it's a [53:58] full-time position but 0.5 is in the [54:00] senior center and point five is in the [54:03] transit fund and that's for a [54:05] coordinator position that helps kind of [54:06] see daily operations for both [54:08] departments a couple of highlights uh [54:11] this coming fiscal year in the budget [54:13] there is 25 000 in revenue for two older [54:18] Americans act funds grants [54:21] um one is for fifteen thousand dollars [54:22] for the evidence-based programs that [54:24] Nancy touched on earlier it's research [54:27] based that if seniors come partake two [54:29] to three times a week for 45 to 60 [54:32] minutes of exercise [54:34] for eight to twelve weeks some research [54:36] shows that they have increased Mobility [54:39] increased muscle strength greater [54:41] balance and so on [54:44] um we did have a grant for [54:46] evidence-based programs this fiscal year [54:48] this current year we received 8 500 [54:51] we to date we have implemented two [54:54] classes and we're kicking off a third [54:57] evidence-based program in June it's a [54:59] walk with these program it's been very [55:02] successful so we're very pleased that [55:04] when we applied for these grants for [55:06] next fiscal year that they gave us a [55:07] little bit of a bump in funding so we'll [55:10] be looking at other programs that we can [55:12] offer as well [55:13] we also received a grant for ten [55:16] thousand dollars for an iPad purchase [55:18] through older Americans act funds this [55:21] is to help address the loneliness and [55:23] combat isolation help keep seniors [55:27] um in touch with family through Facebook [55:31] Zoom email whatever the case may be so [55:34] we have some plans to put that Grant to [55:36] good use as a result I mean we'll see a [55:40] slight increase in materials and [55:41] services which is directly related to [55:43] receiving these funds it's about twenty [55:46] thousand dollars in materials and [55:47] services and then the other five [55:50] thousand dollars that we'll be receiving [55:51] will go toward helping offset staff time [55:55] for instructing those classes [55:59] um Nancy also touched that we're you [56:01] know getting closer to our pre-covered [56:03] numbers [56:04] um one thing I like to say is um you [56:06] know when people think of senior centers [56:08] they think oh yep people come to play [56:10] Bingo that's a lot of fun and but you [56:12] know we are we are more than Bingo we do [56:15] put a lot of thought into our [56:16] programming we actually have seven Focus [56:18] areas and we try to offer a wide array [56:20] of programming again Nancy touched on [56:22] some of those things we do [56:25] um you know we put our newsletter out [56:26] there on Facebook and on our City [56:30] website I could go on and on and on [56:32] about the programming but I'll try to [56:34] work through all the information [56:36] um [56:37] Cascades West Council of governments [56:39] uses our space in the senior center we [56:41] have a large kitchen area [56:43] they this year they will provide almost [56:48] 40 000 meals two seniors in our [56:51] community that's both in-house we have a [56:54] meal site at the senior center and they [56:56] also deliver Meals on Wheels and that's [56:59] about over just over 160 meals each [57:02] weekday that that they're providing [57:06] um I have a a couple pages of [57:09] unsolicited testimonials I'll spare you [57:11] on that as well I'm happy to share it [57:13] with Nancy and can push it out but [57:14] really really [57:16] um a lot of great things that our senior [57:18] center staff and Link staff are doing [57:21] making some invaluable connections and [57:25] helping people age healthy and live [57:28] independently as long as they possibly [57:30] can our staff's doing some great stuff [57:32] but again I can share that with Nancy so [57:35] you guys can see some of the things that people said some of it's really [57:40] tugs at your heartstrings [57:42] um so with that I can move on to Transit [57:45] if you'd like unless somebody has [57:46] specific questions about the senior [57:47] center [57:48] just don't don't diss Bingo come on [57:51] right no no so we were meeting in our [57:55] heritage room [57:57] um and we actually had to move it down [57:59] into our Auditorium because the group [58:01] has gotten so large [58:02] um you can't get around with the Walkers [58:04] and wheelchairs so [58:06] um at any rate we just did that a few [58:07] weeks ago so yes don't don't diss the [58:10] bingo bingo is fun [58:12] it is [58:14] okay so we'll move on to Transit [58:17] um Pages 86 and 87. uh a couple of [58:20] highlights that I'll mention [58:22] um I think I did include this in a [58:23] manager report but I'll go ahead and [58:25] mention it again uh every three four [58:27] years [58:29] um each Transit provider in the state of [58:30] Oregon is required to go through and [58:33] audit with ODOT so it's a complimentary [58:36] audit just to make sure that we're in [58:37] compliance with everything we have a lot [58:39] of policies in place and you know things [58:41] are Ever Changing uh so ODOT and their [58:45] Consultants came down to take a look at [58:47] our operations they looked at our Ada [58:49] policy and operations they looked at our [58:51] operations manual they looked at our [58:53] title VI policies which includes you [58:55] know LEP [58:57] um they looked at our financial policies [58:59] Brandon helped out with that a bit [59:01] looked at our procurement policy some of [59:04] our recent purchases vehicle maintenance [59:05] and they only had a few recommendations [59:08] for us to make in our regional transit [59:10] coordinator at the our regional transit [59:12] coordinator at ODOT at the time said [59:14] that was the fewest number of [59:15] recommendations that you know they had [59:18] ever seen as they had been going through [59:20] uh other [59:22] audit processes so [59:24] we're pretty pleased with that [59:26] um another highlight we have a new low [59:29] no emissions Fleet transition plan [59:33] um we did apply for funding for an [59:35] electric van of course Oregon and you'll [59:38] see this you know Across the Nation [59:39] where you know we're trying to reduce [59:41] carbon emissions so we do have a plan in [59:44] place it doesn't mean with each and [59:45] every new bus that we're purchasing it's [59:47] going to be an electric vehicle we have [59:49] one van and we have eight cutaway [59:51] Vehicles the Cutaway vehicles are more [59:54] difficult to find [59:56] you know an electric form so as they [59:59] become more available as funding is [1:00:01] available that will be a priority for us [1:00:04] um at any rate we do have that plan it [1:00:06] was a requirement [1:00:08] um for applying for that for that Grant [1:00:12] um a couple other highlights and I'm [1:00:14] sure you've read this in department [1:00:16] manager reports last fiscal year we were [1:00:19] over just over 30 000 rides which was a [1:00:21] 36 increase over any other fiscal year [1:00:24] this fiscal year we will probably hit [1:00:27] the 48 000 ride Mark which is a 59 [1:00:31] increase over the last fiscal year [1:00:35] um crazy so um you know part of that is [1:00:38] uh because we started the Brownsville [1:00:40] connector last June [1:00:42] um that service runs two days a week [1:00:44] runs five Loops to Brownsville and back [1:00:48] um it has been well received the numbers [1:00:50] are growing we're getting regular [1:00:51] writers from Brownsville it's a great [1:00:52] service it's something that the Lynn [1:00:55] County Transit advisory advisory [1:00:56] committee has talked about for a number [1:00:58] of years it's filling in the gaps uh you [1:01:01] know an unmet need in our community so [1:01:04] it's going very well [1:01:06] um [1:01:07] we are also still not charging fares and [1:01:11] that's something that a lot of Transit [1:01:13] providers [1:01:15] um have been doing since covet hit we [1:01:18] started collecting or excuse me we've [1:01:20] stopped collecting fares and passes just [1:01:22] because of covid and a lot of the [1:01:24] providers have still just kind of hung [1:01:26] on to that as a matter of fact Albany [1:01:28] just announced a week ago a week and a [1:01:30] half ago that they're not gonna [1:01:32] reinstate collecting fares [1:01:35] our thought behind this then with [1:01:36] talking with Nancy [1:01:38] um and ODOT is we will revisit the fair [1:01:41] structure when we look at expanding our [1:01:44] Loop service that's our deviated fixed [1:01:46] route service right now we have a loop [1:01:49] service that runs through town it stops [1:01:51] at Walmart and Safeway and has seven [1:01:53] stops in town we do nine Loops a day [1:01:56] that's our most efficient mode of [1:01:58] service our other services demand [1:02:00] response and we have four or five [1:02:02] vehicles out every day picking people up [1:02:04] going to their homes of course we do [1:02:06] group people and you know get them to [1:02:07] medical appointments or shopping but [1:02:10] again the deviated fixed route is our [1:02:12] most efficient mode of service so it [1:02:14] just kind of makes sense you know if we [1:02:16] were to expand that service maybe have [1:02:17] an East and a West Loop [1:02:19] um you know then the demand on demand [1:02:21] response will go down a little bit [1:02:22] um at any rate that's when we'll look at [1:02:24] that fair structure to see what makes [1:02:25] the most sense [1:02:27] and if we want to reinstate it or what [1:02:30] we want to do there [1:02:33] um regarding budget for Transit you'll [1:02:36] see things [1:02:37] um Revenue side and obviously expense [1:02:39] side or a little bit higher we have [1:02:40] quite a few Capital [1:02:42] um purchases and a larger Capital [1:02:45] project in our in our budget this year [1:02:49] um just kind of looking at Revenue I [1:02:51] thought maybe it would be helpful to do [1:02:52] just a bit of a breakdown to see you [1:02:54] know between federal and state grants [1:02:55] what that funding is comprised of [1:02:58] about 187 000 are federal grants for [1:03:01] operations [1:03:04] um that includes our 5311 Grant cares [1:03:06] act fund [1:03:08] um some funding to address cobit 19. [1:03:13] um we have 848 000 for operations all of [1:03:18] this funding is through the Statewide [1:03:19] Transportation Improvement fund [1:03:22] um that is House Bill 2017 which when [1:03:26] they implemented the point zero one [1:03:28] percent payroll tax for anybody who [1:03:30] works in the state of Oregon and it was [1:03:32] designated specifically for new and [1:03:34] enhanced transportation service it [1:03:36] couldn't you know take over anything [1:03:38] that we were doing previously so 677 [1:03:42] 000 of that is for our Loop deviated [1:03:45] fixed route our Saturday service our [1:03:48] expanded hours are serving up to five [1:03:51] miles outside City Limits which includes [1:03:52] the communities of Waterloo sodaville [1:03:55] and Crabtree [1:03:57] um it includes a hundred and two [1:03:58] thousand dollars for serving outlying [1:04:00] communities and that was when I spoke to [1:04:02] the Brownsville connector piece that's [1:04:04] what that is slated for and then there's [1:04:07] 69 000 for operations and that's the [1:04:09] population [1:04:11] um based piece of the Statewide [1:04:14] Transportation Improvement funds [1:04:16] kind of a mouthful [1:04:18] um twenty thousand dollars as a Federal [1:04:20] grant for preventive maintenance [1:04:22] um for our vehicles [1:04:25] um four hundred and ninety thousand [1:04:26] dollars in federal grants for Capital [1:04:28] purchases which includes an electric van [1:04:30] a cutaway vehicle some dispatching [1:04:33] software and improvements to our park [1:04:36] and Oak stop [1:04:37] the bus stop that we share with the [1:04:39] Lynch shuttle I'll stop let's pause for [1:04:41] the train [1:04:43] [Music] [1:04:46] they knew we were here so they came by [1:04:48] [Music] [1:05:07] it's a real trainers [1:05:15] Petticoat Junction [1:05:23] this one's a real train [1:05:26] foreign [1:05:30] having three cars [1:05:38] okay all right let's pick it up again [1:05:41] thank you for the pause of course [1:05:44] um in Revenue just a couple more uh [1:05:47] things to mention four hundred and [1:05:48] twenty six thousand dollars in Statewide [1:05:51] Transportation Improvement fund [1:05:52] discretionary grants so that was a [1:05:55] competitive process um anybody in Oregon [1:05:57] wanted to apply for and that is for [1:06:00] um improvements actually to be moving [1:06:03] our Fleet to the maintenance shops we're [1:06:05] currently [1:06:06] um at the police department that the [1:06:08] Justice Center parking lot [1:06:10] um we've been outgrowing that space for [1:06:12] some time and certainly the police [1:06:13] department could use the space that were [1:06:16] you we've been utilizing since they [1:06:17] opened up [1:06:19] um so that will provide funding for site [1:06:23] work Paving a shop door pit work for [1:06:26] working on the vehicles uh and conduit [1:06:29] for a future phase two at some point in [1:06:32] time when we're looking at Electrify you [1:06:34] know starting that process to Electrify [1:06:36] our Fleet we'll have the conduit in [1:06:38] place to make that happen [1:06:41] um it also includes 136 000 [1:06:43] um dollars in again Statewide [1:06:46] Transportation Improvement funds for [1:06:48] match for that secure parking and also [1:06:50] match for the dispatch software and um [1:06:54] just just a side note there [1:06:56] um we do have a meeting on June 1st with [1:06:59] the Linn County transportation advisory [1:07:01] committee [1:07:02] um and they will be reviewing and [1:07:06] approving allocations for all providers [1:07:08] in Linn County so that 136 thousand [1:07:11] dollars [1:07:12] um in this budget we're hopefully going [1:07:14] to get that approved on June 1st [1:07:18] um and then of course just kind of going [1:07:19] through all the revenue kind of makes [1:07:21] sense what's going to be on the expense [1:07:23] side of things for some of those capital [1:07:24] projects [1:07:26] um and that kind of wraps it up for [1:07:28] Transit I don't know if anybody has any [1:07:29] questions about Transit I know it's [1:07:33] a it's a breathtaking Endeavor I I do [1:07:37] have one [1:07:38] um so a lot of a lot of grant money is [1:07:40] coming in and is has been coming in [1:07:43] since 21. how much of that do we rely on [1:07:47] to actually operate and how much of it [1:07:49] is [1:07:51] um just like expanding what we have [1:07:53] already like if if Nick I say next year [1:07:56] we have zero grant money or what what's [1:07:59] the situation then [1:08:01] um so the really nice thing is that the [1:08:03] Statewide Transportation Improvement [1:08:04] funds are relatively stable of course [1:08:07] what does that mean there's never any [1:08:08] guarantee of course [1:08:10] um so when I was kind of breaking down [1:08:12] those funds um the federal funds I'm [1:08:15] going off top of my head now because I [1:08:16] have a million papers here but yeah um [1:08:19] 5311 funding we've had that funding in [1:08:21] place since I started with the city back [1:08:23] in 2003 2004. [1:08:26] um that funding is allocated each year I [1:08:29] believe there are 35 providers it's for [1:08:31] Rural Transportation [1:08:33] um so ODOT gets an allocation each year [1:08:35] and then they look at number of rides [1:08:37] number of miles [1:08:39] um and then they put those numbers in [1:08:42] there and then they determine who gets [1:08:44] what okay allocated so it's a pretty [1:08:46] stable funding source that we can almost [1:08:47] count on every year at least it is [1:08:51] and given our in ridership and revenue miles and [1:08:54] revenue hours [1:08:56] um that funding I mean should just it [1:08:59] should go up [1:09:00] okay thank you yeah [1:09:02] you're welcome I have a question and [1:09:04] maybe you you're the one to answer and [1:09:06] I'm not sure [1:09:08] but you just said something rural [1:09:11] I have the same question I think yeah [1:09:13] now [1:09:15] if we break twenty thousand oh certain [1:09:18] things changed but I know they don't [1:09:21] change in every single category so does [1:09:25] it affect you like it would affect over [1:09:27] here it for for transportation right [1:09:30] it's 50 000 when you become then a [1:09:33] metropolitan planning organization okay [1:09:35] right and then you move out of 53 11 to [1:09:38] 53 10. so we have a little bit of a [1:09:40] buffer we got years [1:09:45] a lot of you guys won't be around [1:09:48] um [1:09:49] I attended a um a County Commission [1:09:53] meeting where you guys were talking [1:09:54] about writers per I mean there's there's [1:09:58] a measurement for uh four different [1:10:01] systems can you like address that just [1:10:03] in a brief sure well we have different [1:10:06] performance measures so you know there's [1:10:07] cost per mile there's cost per Revenue [1:10:09] hour there's cost per ride [1:10:12] um you know for example if you and I do [1:10:13] have them broken out between our loop [1:10:16] system our demand response system and [1:10:18] our Brownsville connector system so if [1:10:20] you're looking at Brownsville connector [1:10:21] I mean average [1:10:23] um trip is what 13 14 miles so you know [1:10:27] those those trips are more expensive [1:10:30] um and then you look at our other [1:10:32] systems and the deviated fixer up comes [1:10:35] in a little bit less than our demand [1:10:37] response but you know it is 18 19 20 22 [1:10:41] dollars per ride that's the actual cost [1:10:45] you know all in for providing [1:10:48] Transportation but that seems I mean it [1:10:51] seems like a lot but it seemed like [1:10:54] there were a lot of systems that were [1:12:53] our drivers they are so personable so [1:12:57] friendly and generally care about the [1:12:59] people that we're serving and I I just [1:13:01] feel so good about that they do a [1:13:04] fabulous job they come by the soup [1:13:06] kitchen every Monday Wednesday and [1:13:08] Friday just like clockwork because we [1:13:09] have the same folks they know who to [1:13:11] pick up know where to take them know how [1:13:13] to pick them up because everybody has a [1:13:15] little different need and it's wonderful [1:13:17] it's a great service thanks for saying [1:13:19] so thank you thank you [1:13:22] okay [1:13:24] we want to get into yeah [1:13:32] okay why don't we take a 10-minute break [1:13:34] let Brent get a hold of our [1:13:40] do it [1:13:45] oh my God [1:13:48] my back hurts [1:13:50] I jumped out through the airplanes and [1:13:52] it's [1:13:54] I have bone on Bones so [1:13:57] yeah not a fun thing [1:14:01] riveting so excited [1:14:16] so I just uh [1:14:19] successful [1:14:21] some young Christian Oriental gal wanted [1:14:25] to fall in love with him [1:14:29] I don't know who you don't want to know [1:14:40] yeah [1:14:42] I don't think too many of them anymore I [1:14:45] did it possible [1:14:54] what's going on with it [1:15:02] that one there I just pulled up on it [1:15:04] okay [1:24:03] I am told we're back on the air okay [1:24:07] good to go [1:24:09] all right next will be com Community [1:24:12] Development Kelly Hart hi everybody [1:24:14] thank you Kelly thank you uh so I'm uh [1:24:18] the community development director [1:24:19] obviously uh the Community Development [1:24:21] Department is made up of three different [1:24:22] divisions the planning building and [1:24:25] Economic Development Division [1:24:27] in total the budget for the Department [1:24:28] is just over a million dollars [1:24:30] distributed over four different funds [1:24:32] and the vast majority of the budget is [1:24:35] associated with salaries and benefits [1:24:37] for the employees and so we have four [1:24:41] full-time employees including myself [1:24:42] within the department and as part of our [1:24:45] building uh division we contract with a [1:24:48] building official for building official [1:24:50] duties and inspection services [1:24:53] uh so I'll just sort of run through each [1:24:55] of the three divisions to give you some [1:24:58] highlights of what we do what we've done [1:24:59] and what we're looking forward to for [1:25:01] the next year so the planning division [1:25:03] provides current and long-range planning [1:25:06] services for the city uh the division is [1:25:09] responsible for on the current planning [1:25:11] side the processing of all land use and [1:25:14] development proposals within the city [1:25:16] uh to ensure that it meets the [1:25:18] Development Goal uh the development code [1:25:20] and the goals of the comprehensive plan [1:25:22] in 2022 so last year we processed over [1:25:25] 50 land use permits [1:25:28] um and that was a slight increase from [1:25:30] the year before [1:25:32] and for the current year of 2023 and [1:25:35] into the next fiscal year we are [1:25:38] expecting to see a bit of a decrease on [1:25:40] the land use permits that are going to [1:25:42] be processed through our department and [1:25:44] that is largely due to the the cost [1:25:46] increases from inflation and [1:25:49] construction material delays as well as [1:25:51] Workforce shortages so we are definitely [1:25:54] seeing a decrease in the number of big [1:25:56] development applications and proposals [1:25:58] coming before us right now [1:26:01] um the planning division on the current [1:26:02] side also process processes several [1:26:05] over-the-counter permit applications [1:26:07] such as fencing permits sign permits [1:26:10] accessory dwelling units and we also [1:26:13] process new single-family homes as [1:26:16] over-the-counter permits as well so it [1:26:18] doesn't require land use action [1:26:20] uh we're also responsible for [1:26:23] implementing the city's long-range [1:26:25] vision for growth and that's our [1:26:27] long-range planning process this is [1:26:29] accomplished through the implementation [1:26:30] of the action items for the goals and [1:26:33] policies that are set forth in our [1:26:34] comprehensive plan and through all of [1:26:37] the periodic updates we do to that plan [1:26:40] starting last year we started to [1:26:43] undertake two major updates to the [1:26:46] comprehensive plan with our housing [1:26:48] production strategy and The Economic [1:26:50] Opportunity analysis I'm not going to [1:26:52] bore you all with that because you have [1:26:54] seen it all over and over and over again [1:26:57] but upon adoption by the city council [1:27:00] for those two plans that does set up the [1:27:02] work plan for the planning Division and [1:27:05] The Economic Development Division for [1:27:08] the next several years [1:27:10] in addition we have seen quite the [1:27:12] uptick in the state legislature [1:27:15] regarding their interest in housing [1:27:16] production and land use regulation and [1:27:20] it has been a major focus of theirs this [1:27:22] last cycle and so we are anticipating [1:27:25] that through that legislation we will be [1:27:27] seeing an increase in workload regarding [1:27:29] additional reporting procedure [1:27:31] modifications and even possible code [1:27:34] modifications associated with that and [1:27:37] of course it has to be done on the [1:27:38] state's timeline [1:27:40] um and there's no identified funding [1:27:43] source as of yet for that additional [1:27:45] work as well [1:27:46] uh we also manage in the planning [1:27:48] division the community event block grant [1:27:50] program for the Lane County low low [1:27:53] income housing rehabilitation program [1:27:56] um it is budgeted for 150 000 for this [1:27:59] next fiscal year but that is countered [1:28:01] with a revenue Source through the [1:28:03] program as well and we contract with the [1:28:06] dev Northwest to administer that program [1:28:10] for us or the fiduciary agent for that [1:28:14] for our Building Division we provide [1:28:16] plan check review Services building [1:28:19] permit issuance and inspection services [1:28:21] through to our building permit final and [1:28:24] that is to ensure that all development [1:28:26] in the city meets the building code [1:28:28] requirements for safe occupancy of our [1:28:30] residents and business owners [1:28:32] to complete the building plan check and [1:28:34] inspection services we employ a building [1:28:36] official through a contract with [1:28:39] Northwest code professionals [1:28:41] this contract is the vast majority of [1:28:43] the building fund budgets along with a [1:28:46] portion of the salaries for Two permit [1:28:48] technicians that review the submittals [1:28:51] issue the permits and also maintain all [1:28:53] of our permitting records [1:28:55] last year the building division issued [1:28:58] 691 permits with a total project [1:29:01] valuation of 40.6 million dollars of [1:29:04] improvement into the community [1:29:06] uh in comparison to 2021 this was [1:29:09] approximately a hundred less permits [1:29:11] that were issued over the entire year so [1:29:13] a slight reduction but there's a pretty [1:29:16] significant reduction in evaluation of [1:29:19] projects by 30 million dollars this [1:29:22] basically provides you an indication [1:29:23] that work is still being done [1:29:25] construction is still being done but [1:29:27] there has been a shift there's not large [1:29:29] construction projects that are being [1:29:31] proposed over and over again it's a lot [1:29:33] of the smaller projects so still the [1:29:35] workload maintains in the department but [1:29:37] less valuation and also when you have [1:29:40] less valuation our permit fees are [1:29:42] associated to evaluation so there's less [1:29:45] Revenue coming in for a similar amount [1:29:47] of work as well [1:29:50] um and that's work is all done I have to [1:29:53] do a shout out for our lovely permit [1:29:55] text they have to we have 691 permits [1:29:58] that are issued per the last year that [1:30:01] usually equates to five or six or seven [1:30:03] phone calls per permit to make sure [1:30:05] everybody's in informed of what needs to [1:30:07] happen and the coordination associated [1:30:09] with it so they they handle quite a lot [1:30:11] for the for the small team that we have [1:30:13] and they do a fantastic job [1:30:16] um and finally we have uh the Economic [1:30:18] Development Division that ensures that [1:30:21] there's a sufficient land and [1:30:23] infrastructure to accommodate our build [1:30:25] our business and industry development [1:30:27] and it also focuses on business growth [1:30:29] and retention business recruitment [1:30:31] Regional economic growth as well as [1:30:34] Workforce Development [1:30:35] uh the economic development divisions [1:30:38] also the administrator for our downtown [1:30:41] building restoration program through [1:30:43] that program we issued six grants for [1:30:46] fifty thousand dollars a city investment [1:30:48] last year and we are currently underway [1:30:51] with the new planning with the new cycle [1:30:53] this year and we received enough [1:30:55] applications for fully funding that [1:30:57] Grant cycle again this year [1:31:00] um in 2022 the division assisted over [1:31:03] 120 businesses with resource connection [1:31:06] Grant Administration and business [1:31:08] startup and expansion efforts the [1:31:11] division also partners with several [1:31:12] outside agencies to increase the city's [1:31:16] capacity for Local Economic Development [1:31:18] goals and these Partnerships increase [1:31:20] the amount of tools that we have [1:31:22] available to address Regional [1:31:24] coordination Wetland and Industrial site [1:31:27] Readiness resource development Workforce [1:31:29] Development local business support as [1:31:31] well as business recruitments [1:31:34] um we also have a focus on obtaining [1:31:37] grants to further economic opportunities [1:31:39] within the community last year we [1:31:41] brought in over three hundred thousand [1:31:43] dollars in Grant Monies to support [1:31:45] Economic Development efforts and Direct [1:31:47] business support uh to our business [1:31:49] community [1:31:51] and for this coming fiscal year we will [1:31:54] continue to leverage those outside [1:31:55] funding sources we are looking at [1:31:57] several different grants that are coming [1:31:58] up this fall to achieve additional Grant [1:32:02] monies coming in for the the economic [1:32:03] development purposes and then we also [1:32:06] will be focusing on implementing the [1:32:08] large number of action items that are [1:32:11] contributed Through The Economic [1:32:12] Opportunity analysis [1:32:15] um the Staffing and support for the [1:32:17] economic development decision division [1:32:18] is myself and we also have an economic [1:32:21] development Catalyst and the budget for [1:32:24] that division is largely related to [1:32:26] salaries and benefits with minor [1:32:28] materials and services included [1:32:31] and with that I can answer any questions [1:32:34] anybody have any questions I would just [1:32:37] say that as far as on behalf of the [1:32:40] chamber I rely on being able to [1:32:43] um I guess call out and ask for [1:32:45] assistance and use the city's Economic [1:32:48] Development Department as a resource and [1:32:50] that has and I've never been [1:32:52] disappointed I think I I recommend you [1:32:54] guys for that I do have a question on [1:32:56] the um the there's a significant [1:32:59] materials and services decrease from [1:33:01] what what is that [1:33:03] can you do you know yeah in our efforts [1:33:06] to [1:33:07] um cut around the edges for for a [1:33:09] reduction of budget this year we did [1:33:11] take out a significant budget for [1:33:14] training and conferences that that would [1:33:17] provide us with the networking [1:33:18] assistance and being able to further our [1:33:21] training for for grant writing [1:33:24] um and also through owida Grant Services [1:33:28] as well thank you [1:33:31] real quick I had a question [1:33:33] um the six [1:33:34] grants that we give away for the 50 000 [1:33:37] is that come from the general fund no [1:33:39] that's funded through the transient [1:33:41] lodging tax of the motel tax the right [1:33:44] okay thank you [1:33:47] foreign I want to compliment you also I [1:33:50] will say with our non-profit when we've [1:33:52] been looking at buildings and places to [1:33:55] go [1:33:56] I make a phone call and her she or her [1:33:59] officer there giving us advice giving us [1:34:02] parameters to work within and things to [1:34:04] look at and we're even looking at [1:34:07] building a building and she made sure [1:34:10] that where we were looking is a place [1:34:12] that we could do it and then sent me all [1:34:14] the requirements for it so we can get [1:34:16] pre-armed when we start trying to make [1:34:19] our decisions and it's very very helpful [1:34:21] to have that and someone with a weird [1:34:24] sense of humor makes it easier for me to [1:34:26] operate with so I appreciate that very [1:34:29] much [1:34:33] I don't talk to you do I [1:34:37] thank you very much thank you Kelly [1:34:41] okay Information Technology Brent [1:34:45] and please speak English not Tech [1:34:51] AJ I will try okay [1:34:55] so I manage the it and GIS departments [1:34:58] here the city there are six of us total [1:35:01] one of us does GIS primarily and the [1:35:03] rest of us try and keep computers [1:35:04] running [1:35:06] we also contract with the fire district [1:35:09] to provide I.T services and phone [1:35:12] support for them as well [1:35:13] one of the big projects we we worked on [1:35:15] in fiscal year 2023 here this year has [1:35:19] been that new build they're doing over [1:35:21] on Oak Street [1:35:22] and that will continue for the next [1:35:25] fiscal year there's quite a bit of work [1:35:28] to help get that building outfitted for [1:35:31] them [1:35:33] on the city Side last year we really [1:35:35] focused on cyber security upgrades [1:35:38] so last spring our insurance provider [1:35:41] came out with a new set of requirements [1:35:42] for qualifying for cyber security [1:35:44] insurance which resulted in a discussion [1:35:47] about what level of cyber security [1:35:49] Insurance do we want we decided to go [1:35:52] for a higher tier so that we were [1:35:54] protected better if we had an incident [1:35:57] and using some of the arpa dollars we [1:36:00] were able to buy a new hardware software [1:36:02] training tools assessments and met that [1:36:06] so kind of hit two goals protecting the [1:36:09] city better training staff as well as [1:36:11] giving us better insurance [1:36:14] uh our budget for next year for fiscal [1:36:17] year 2024 is really [1:36:19] fairly consistent with 2023 there is an [1:36:23] increase and that increase is largely [1:36:25] due to a project that we're planning on [1:36:28] doing for the scada the waste water and [1:36:30] the water treatment plants to modernize [1:36:32] those systems it will help increase [1:36:35] operator efficiencies as far as how they [1:36:37] can get to the controls use them as well [1:36:40] as it will modernize some of our [1:36:42] security layers down there [1:36:44] hmm [1:36:45] on GIS side in 2023 fiscal year this [1:36:49] last year we finished about a 15 to 18 [1:36:52] month project to do our water [1:36:53] distribution system so we upgraded that [1:36:56] system that gives the guys engineering [1:36:59] and Public Works planning primarily [1:37:02] better tools to work on the [1:37:05] infrastructure of the city plan upgrades [1:37:07] and it just meet like development [1:37:11] requests and different requests the city [1:37:13] has for this next year they're smaller [1:37:16] projects but we hope to get the storm [1:37:18] and the sewer systems also upgraded [1:37:21] and kind of cut our teeth on the water [1:37:23] distribution upgrade and I think that we [1:37:26] should get both of those done this next [1:37:27] year [1:37:29] another project we have is our [1:37:33] ci.lebanon.org.us email address that [1:37:36] always takes people multiple times to [1:37:38] get [1:37:38] I think it was 2017 we registered for [1:37:42] lebanonoregon.gov and our website is [1:37:44] lebanonoregon.gov and it's always been [1:37:46] one of those projects that would be nice [1:37:48] to get to and I think in the light of [1:37:50] everything that we've been doing and and [1:37:52] uh [1:37:53] you know security Etc it's time to [1:37:56] upgrade our domain internally that's a [1:37:58] goal we have this year that would make [1:38:00] everyone's email address by default [1:38:02] lebanonoregon.gov and it would align all [1:38:04] the internal services to that web [1:38:06] website [1:38:08] and lastly and Nancy did note this [1:38:10] before in our opening budget message and [1:38:12] that is upgrade of our City website just [1:38:14] kind of freshen things up give us a [1:38:16] professional appearance as a city and [1:38:18] provide services to the citizens that we [1:38:20] all use digitally now and and want to [1:38:24] use [1:38:25] that's it for my department so any [1:38:28] questions [1:38:30] can you go into the upgrade just a [1:38:32] little bit I was talking with Nancy [1:38:35] about it and it it kind of struck me [1:38:37] funny when it said Ada accessibility for [1:38:40] and I'll when I think Ada accessibility [1:38:42] I think Wide Doors cutouts on the [1:38:45] sidewalk things like that I didn't [1:38:47] realize we were looking at descriptive [1:38:49] audio and that kind of stuff as well [1:38:52] correct so [1:38:55] with Ada accessibility it's just a set [1:38:58] of policies and rules for you know if [1:39:01] you have a handicap or you cannot read [1:39:03] you need audio assistance are your [1:39:05] images tagged properly is are you able [1:39:09] to have that website read back to you [1:39:12] correctly that is way out of the scope [1:39:15] of what my or my staff have the ability [1:39:17] to do we work with a contractor right [1:39:19] now with we're with Civic plus and I've [1:39:22] talked to you about three different [1:39:23] vendors this spring about you know what [1:39:26] a website upgrade would look like and [1:39:27] what tools you have a lot of these guys [1:39:29] have dedicated tools it's all they do is [1:39:32] focus on scouring the website and saying [1:39:36] all right [1:39:37] this this is spelled incorrectly or this [1:39:40] image doesn't have a tag or if you were [1:39:42] coming into this needing assistance you [1:39:45] would not be able to get that service [1:39:46] correctly [1:39:48] yeah it never dawned on me that you know [1:39:51] because we we use a mouse and we click [1:39:52] on things what if you can't see that [1:39:55] yeah [1:39:56] so how do you do that and I thought that [1:40:00] was pretty interesting not that I'd [1:40:02] understand how it's done but it's [1:40:04] interesting I know in the in the [1:40:06] financial world there's a lot of [1:40:08] lawsuits that have that have gone back [1:40:10] and forth and you can get sued for not [1:40:11] having a a properly Ada uh accessible [1:40:15] website so yeah and that's what Nancy [1:40:18] brought up to me when I asked her about [1:40:19] what what exactly does that mean it's [1:40:21] like it's crazy it's called loss [1:40:23] prevention yes [1:40:25] yeah so risk management that's it [1:40:29] okay thank you very much [1:40:31] I don't have my email address [1:40:33] ci.lebanon.org because I get that goofed [1:40:36] up still every time that that is my hope [1:40:38] yes [1:40:40] exactly just push on the two button [1:40:43] it'll give you a list of names you're [1:40:45] good okay [1:40:48] and now strange we get to see Kim in [1:40:51] front and not on the side telling us [1:40:53] what to do [1:41:02] can you hear me yes [1:41:05] um this is going to be short and sweet [1:41:07] mine are pretty small so I'm responsible [1:41:10] for the mayor and Council [1:41:12] um budget and the city recorder budget [1:41:14] so mayor and council is on page 38. this [1:41:18] fund covers City councilor stipends the [1:41:21] iPad data plans organizational wide [1:41:23] memberships Council expenses and the [1:41:26] Meals on Wheels Grant [1:41:28] the proposed budget's 88 137 dollars [1:41:33] um there's been a slight increase in [1:41:34] organizational and wide membership fees [1:41:38] that's really [1:41:40] that one any questions [1:41:45] I didn't realize the fees to these [1:41:47] different [1:41:49] groups were so expensive but it looked I [1:41:52] would imagine most of the materials and [1:41:54] services is memberships to Oregon City [1:41:57] Oregon League of organ cities Oregon [1:41:59] Cascades West [1:42:01] or yeah that's what that covers okay [1:42:07] anything else on that one [1:42:10] okay now the fun one [1:42:12] um City recorder's office so the city [1:42:14] recorder's office has two ftes that's [1:42:17] the city recorder and the deputy City [1:42:18] recorder [1:42:19] we're on page 54 sorry forgot to mention [1:42:22] that I'm not going to go over all the [1:42:24] things we do we sort of work behind the [1:42:26] scenes and I wanted to call that out all [1:42:28] the different aspects of [1:42:30] um things that we do do [1:42:33] our budget is 289 074 dollars [1:42:37] we had an increase in our materials and [1:42:41] services the contract services are up a [1:42:43] little this year mainly the one for [1:42:45] archiving social media was a pretty big [1:42:48] jump [1:42:49] um I also want to call out that we have [1:42:51] over 18 000 documents in our records [1:42:54] management system and you're able to [1:42:56] access 13 000 of those documents on our [1:42:59] website portal [1:43:02] any questions [1:43:07] okay thank you [1:43:12] that was quick [1:43:14] all right Angela soulsby [1:43:18] good afternoon I'm another internal [1:43:21] service provider so I don't get to see [1:43:23] you [1:43:23] I often I am here to support the [1:43:26] employee group [1:43:27] as the human resources department we [1:43:30] have two cost centers one Being Human [1:43:32] Resources the other being safety and [1:43:35] training [1:43:36] this fiscal year we accomplished quite a [1:43:39] bit I'm sure some of you have heard all [1:43:41] about our ADP implementation we're still [1:43:44] working through that process that's time [1:43:46] in attendance that's to get us compliant [1:43:48] with state and federal [1:43:51] um time and attendance laws [1:43:53] so that's going somewhat better we're [1:43:56] still working through our six-month [1:43:58] implementation period on that we also [1:44:00] onboarded our safety coordinator [1:44:02] position that's been a huge benefit I'll [1:44:05] give you just a couple of facts and [1:44:07] figures on that last year we had a total [1:44:10] number of incidents of 13. four of those [1:44:14] were recordable incidents those are [1:44:16] recordable to OSHA [1:44:18] the number of workers comp claims were [1:44:21] six and we did have one OSHA violation [1:44:23] with one fine attached to that [1:44:25] so far this year and knock on wood that [1:44:28] it stays low we've only had three [1:44:30] incidents we've had one recordable [1:44:33] incident and we've had one workers comp [1:44:35] claim and zero OSHA violations so our [1:44:38] safety coordinator is hard at work [1:44:41] with our department directors and our [1:44:44] employees getting training and [1:44:47] compliance under control we didn't have [1:44:50] that position previously so that job [1:44:52] fell on the directors we're taking that [1:44:54] role away from the directors to help [1:44:56] free them up to do their work and then [1:44:58] have that safety coordinator then work [1:45:00] with the employees and in coordination [1:45:03] with the director to manage a lot of the [1:45:05] training and compliance issues [1:45:08] on the HR side we are working through [1:45:12] implementation of a learning system [1:45:15] right now we do all of our learning [1:45:18] online through CIS we're converting that [1:45:20] over to a new module that will be [1:45:23] rolling out in the next fiscal year [1:45:25] we're also uh working through a [1:45:27] conversion from an old recruitment [1:45:29] system into a new recruitment system [1:45:31] we're rolling that out now we have two [1:45:34] new jobs posted on our new career center [1:45:36] that's an enhancement [1:45:38] one of the enhancements is on the career [1:45:41] center we have the opportunity to have a [1:45:44] separate career center page for the [1:45:46] police department we felt like that [1:45:48] would be an enhancement for them because [1:45:50] they could customize it you can add [1:45:52] videos and photos and messaging so [1:45:55] having a unique Police Department [1:45:57] website we've worked with the [1:45:59] administrative assistant Amy I'm sure [1:46:01] you all know her and she's going to [1:46:03] start working on that career center page [1:46:05] so that when individuals apply for [1:46:07] positions at the police department they [1:46:09] kind of get a dedicated Career Center [1:46:10] Page and then all other positions will [1:46:13] be posted on just the regular career [1:46:14] center page so they have those some some [1:46:17] very unique customizations they can do [1:46:20] um coming up pretty soon we're also [1:46:22] going to be going into open enrollment [1:46:23] there are some changes this year coming [1:46:26] up that we're going to be communicating [1:46:28] out to employees [1:46:30] we have an ongoing project of updating [1:46:33] and modifying our job descriptions [1:46:35] that's something we're working with our [1:46:36] safety coordinator on and that's to get [1:46:39] physical requirements added to our job [1:46:41] descriptions if there is an injury we [1:46:44] have to be able to report the physical [1:46:45] requirements on a job description to the [1:46:48] workers comp company so they know what [1:46:50] that employee can and cannot do right [1:46:52] now our job descriptions do not have [1:46:54] physical requirements on them [1:46:56] we are [1:46:58] finalizing hopefully ratifying [1:47:02] ratification meeting next week with [1:47:04] afscme on some contract changes we also [1:47:07] have a contract opener next year with [1:47:10] Teamsters so that will be another big [1:47:12] project that we're working on [1:47:14] and [1:47:16] I think those are our main projects any [1:47:19] questions for us [1:47:23] I have a question that nobody else does [1:47:26] you're talking about on the safety [1:47:28] coordinator claims are down [1:47:31] is that you compared a whole year to how [1:47:34] much of this year just the first five [1:47:35] just today four months correct so if you [1:47:38] took the same four months last year to [1:47:40] this year what's that look like I don't [1:47:43] have that I can again are you I'm not [1:47:44] sure what our numbers were as far as [1:47:46] through see Apples to Apples not apples [1:47:49] to oranges [1:47:52] I also have a question on the safety [1:47:54] coordinator you'd mentioned that that [1:47:56] was already in that position has already [1:47:59] been in play [1:48:01] it was hired last August so okay so that [1:48:04] was part of last year's budget as well [1:48:08] it was used as cost savings from another [1:48:11] position so it wasn't budgeted ahead of [1:48:13] time okay yeah so the the 130 000 in [1:48:16] personnel and service for safety and [1:48:18] trainees that new new position right and [1:48:21] then in the Personnel Services for human [1:48:24] resources the the increases uh just [1:48:28] contract negotiations [1:48:30] uh [1:48:31] based on [1:48:33] 281 000 this year versus 258 000 last [1:48:36] year right it's all Sellers and wages [1:48:38] associated with that new position our [1:48:40] base our materials and services are less [1:48:42] than twenty thousand dollars for all of [1:48:45] us so it's all in salaries and wages for [1:48:48] our department [1:48:53] you mentioned the Safety and Security uh [1:48:56] coordinator it was about 1 30 and I see [1:48:59] it's a new position to HR did that come [1:49:02] from another department or did that just [1:49:05] come from hr's budget I'm I mean we [1:49:07] didn't see it last year so I'm just a [1:49:08] little confused how it came this year [1:49:09] right and I'm not the numbers person so [1:49:11] I would have to probably defer to [1:49:12] Brandon on how the money was found [1:49:14] thanks Brandon so that position uh used [1:49:18] utilized vacancy savings out of one of [1:49:20] our utility funds there was a position [1:49:21] that was not filled this year by choice [1:49:24] of the department [1:49:26] um and so we we utilized those funds to [1:49:28] bring the position on board this current [1:49:30] fiscal year and then moving forward yes [1:49:33] would be part of the internal service [1:49:35] funds and and spread across the [1:49:36] organization [1:49:39] okay so if I understand it correctly we [1:49:41] took a position from waste water and [1:49:43] moved it over yep to put a point on it [1:49:46] where it came from we can do that huh [1:49:48] okay I just they took a position from [1:49:51] Wastewater and moved it yeah we didn't [1:49:54] move the position the the position is [1:49:56] still over in the Wastewater fund and [1:49:57] there was justification as far as the [1:49:59] work that's being done out of the the [1:50:00] utility treatment at the wastewater [1:50:02] treatment plant [1:50:04] um and across the the public works [1:50:06] department as a whole [1:50:08] um it was determined at that point that [1:50:09] the justification was there to house the [1:50:12] position there [1:50:14] long term like that's not a position [1:50:16] they're going to need to fill [1:50:17] the position is budgeted in this in the [1:50:21] 24 budget the Wastewater one so the [1:50:22] position's not going away by any means [1:50:25] um but so we're so in this budget we're [1:50:28] keeping the waste water and we're adding [1:50:32] the the safety person [1:50:35] so our sewer bills are paying for the [1:50:38] safety person for this current fiscal [1:50:41] year yes [1:50:43] okay [1:50:44] I don't really love that just so we're [1:50:46] I'm gonna just be on record and say that [1:50:48] I don't I don't love that coming out of [1:50:50] that fund for that so [1:50:52] that makes two of us it looks confusing [1:50:54] to me because normally that the the [1:50:57] water utilities are dedicated that [1:51:00] that's correct the the position was [1:51:02] added it has been a considerable amount [1:51:04] of time this year at the Wastewater [1:51:06] Plant [1:51:07] um in in terms of trying to deal with [1:51:09] safety there uh in addition to other [1:51:12] Public Works operations so uh the [1:51:16] person's been out working with Cruz [1:51:19] um uh uh construction sites uh has been [1:51:23] working with Parks Crews and and [1:51:25] reviewing you know practices the tree [1:51:28] cutting groups [1:51:30] um has been Aquarius like an issue came [1:51:33] up [1:51:34] um [1:51:35] Parks Cruise in cleaning Parks [1:51:37] oftentimes come across needles they did [1:51:40] not have puncture proof gloves that's [1:51:43] PPE that we should be providing so that [1:51:45] came up in inspections and then our [1:51:48] safety coordinator works with Public [1:51:50] Works to acquire those gloves and make [1:51:52] sure our staff is appropriately [1:51:55] uh [1:51:57] clothed I guess would be the word in [1:52:00] terms of the PPE they need it was an [1:52:03] opportunity to use savings from a [1:52:05] position that was being left open [1:52:06] purposely for the year to assess kind of [1:52:10] need for that position at the plant and [1:52:13] start trying to address some of the [1:52:16] safety issues that we have had as an [1:52:19] organization and that that position is [1:52:22] working with other departments so moving [1:52:24] it into Human Resources allocating the [1:52:26] costs across the organization [1:52:28] it's included inspections of buildings [1:52:30] identifying where we don't have aeds [1:52:33] that we should [1:52:35] identifying where we have way out of [1:52:38] date medications in uh you know aspirin [1:52:41] and those kinds of things in first aid [1:52:43] kits that employees are using Band-Aids [1:52:45] that don't stick anymore in updating [1:52:47] those so which is as an organization [1:52:50] have not been paying attention to that [1:52:53] trying to pay attention to that so but [1:52:55] this kind this cleans it that up that my concern is with the the funds coming [1:53:01] out of a non- utility funds are are [1:53:04] special and uh legally so and rightfully [1:53:07] so so I just I just to clarify this [1:53:12] ends that and cleans it up correct [1:53:14] moving forward yes that makes me happy [1:53:17] how many details on what the OSHA [1:53:19] violation was and where that took place [1:53:20] I yes and I can um I'm sure when Jason's [1:53:24] up he can share it more details but I do [1:53:26] know that there was a gas line that was [1:53:28] struck with some heavy equipment [1:53:34] any other questions [1:53:37] okay thank you I'd like to hear the [1:53:39] answer though I will get that back okay [1:53:41] thank you [1:53:43] okay Brandon you're up [1:53:46] good afternoon everybody uh so I get the [1:53:49] pleasure of talking to you about the [1:53:50] finance department and I'm also going to [1:53:52] throw non-departmental in there uh [1:53:54] because I realized we haven't talked [1:53:55] about that yet which is in your budget [1:53:57] so [1:53:59] um the finance department consists of [1:54:00] two different areas first obviously [1:54:03] Finance uh and the finance office [1:54:05] overall covers a multitude of functions [1:54:08] Utility Billing audit functions uh the [1:54:11] budget that is before you uh building [1:54:13] collaboration with the city manager's [1:54:15] office [1:54:16] um accounts receivable accounts payable [1:54:19] uh and then [1:54:21] General Finance accounting functions [1:54:25] to accomplish all of those duties I've [1:54:28] got five FTE in the office including [1:54:30] myself we did do a little bit of a [1:54:33] position reorganization in this current [1:54:35] fiscal year [1:54:37] a vacancy opened up with our accounting [1:54:40] supervisor and instead of replacing that [1:54:43] position we instead repurpose that to [1:54:46] bring on a payroll specialist [1:54:48] um I think that was a good move for us [1:54:51] we have a lot of we had one individual [1:54:54] we had an accountant that was doing all [1:54:56] of the payroll work and that's not what [1:54:58] they were originally hired for this [1:55:01] person is well versed in state and [1:55:04] federal payroll laws has spent [1:55:06] considerable time with our new payroll [1:55:08] system that you've all heard about and [1:55:11] we think that moving forward this is [1:55:13] going to be what's the what's best for [1:55:15] the organization to ensure that we [1:55:16] comply with with all of the rules [1:55:20] um that did actually save us some money [1:55:22] overall as well so that adjustment saved [1:55:25] about 38 000 in salary and benefit costs [1:55:28] um through which we are replacing some [1:55:29] of that with the ADP software that has [1:55:33] landed in my budget but overall I'm [1:55:34] still uh ten thousand dollars less [1:55:37] between those two changes in my overall [1:55:39] budget [1:55:42] um the rest of my budget is primarily [1:55:44] Contract Services we have multi multiple [1:55:47] debt obligations as far as fees [1:55:50] associated with our debt and management [1:55:52] thereof and then certainly audit each [1:55:55] year is a considerable cost for us [1:55:59] um and then just kind of General banking [1:56:01] services [1:56:02] and Report filings that we have to make [1:56:05] as a city so all of those costs oh and [1:56:09] our overall Finance system uh [1:56:11] Springbrook is a considerable cost as [1:56:13] well so all of that is housed inside the [1:56:15] finance office in the materials and [1:56:17] service budget [1:56:19] the other function for finance is the [1:56:21] supervision of Municipal Court [1:56:24] um so as Finance director I oversee [1:56:27] three FTE over in court I do not oversee [1:56:31] the judge that is the the purview of the [1:56:33] city council and so my function is [1:56:37] really just supervising the day-to-day [1:56:38] operations in the court and obviously [1:56:41] the judge has has the purview to to [1:56:45] enforce as he sees fit [1:56:48] um there's not a lot of changes in the [1:56:50] court budget for the coming year [1:56:51] everything in there is really a required [1:56:54] expenditure we do sometimes save some [1:56:56] money throughout a year in the materials [1:56:59] and supplies or materials and services [1:57:01] budget because the primary expense there [1:57:03] is the cost associated with providing [1:57:06] Council legal counsel for folks uh in [1:57:11] front of in front of the court [1:57:13] otherwise after that it's paying you [1:57:16] know the state fees paying the county [1:57:18] for for their portion of of what we [1:57:20] collect so everything is is fairly [1:57:23] straightforward in in that budget [1:57:25] overall [1:57:27] any questions that I can answer about [1:57:29] finance and Municipal Court [1:57:32] I have a oh sorry I just wonder when the [1:57:35] payroll Specialists came on board [1:57:37] uh they start we had that position start [1:57:40] the beginning of April [1:57:44] thank you very recently didn't mean to [1:57:46] cut you off [1:57:48] um and and maybe this is not the right [1:57:50] time but but [1:57:51] um we have yet to talk about [1:57:54] um pers and normally I feel like every [1:57:57] year we we talk about hers and we have [1:57:59] not yet this year [1:58:01] are we on an off year for an increase no [1:58:04] we actually have an increase beginning [1:58:06] July 1 and there is uh in the budget [1:58:10] summary overview there's also a [1:58:12] projection of the likely increases for [1:58:14] July 1 25 and July 127. [1:58:18] uh and uh yeah okay I will note there [1:58:23] are no projected decreases [1:58:25] yeah okay so page 32 in your budget [1:58:30] document has a has a whole section [1:58:31] dedicated to discussing uh the purse [1:58:35] rate increases for the coming biennium [1:58:38] um and then as Nancy said dated the projection for [1:58:42] the following two bienniums [1:58:44] by Nia [1:58:46] okay thank you [1:58:49] can I ask you a question on that first [1:58:51] is this the right or is there a later [1:58:53] point where this is fine I'll go ahead [1:58:55] and ask [1:58:56] um [1:58:57] so I'm seeing in 2023 [1:59:01] uh just I'll just look at general [1:59:03] service pers it says 25.16 percent [1:59:09] uh help me understand that number is [1:59:11] that what the employer is contributing [1:59:14] on behalf of the employee that is the [1:59:16] amount that the city is paying into the [1:59:19] overall pension fund on behalf of an [1:59:22] employee and that's referencing 25.16 of [1:59:25] the employees if there's gross earnings [1:59:28] yes so that's it on top of their gross [1:59:30] earnings correct yeah it's they have [1:59:32] they make they have their gross earnings [1:59:34] and then we pay an additional [1:59:36] 25.16 into the pension fund which does [1:59:39] cover some of the unfunded liability [1:59:42] um and some of the you know trying to [1:59:43] catch the system up to the best of its [1:59:45] ability [1:59:46] um as we uh outlined in that second [1:59:48] paragraph on that page [1:59:50] um the unfunded liability for pers is [1:59:53] about 20 which means they if if [1:59:55] everything came to a head today they [1:59:57] couldn't make their ends meet [2:00:00] um and so certainly state and local [2:00:02] municipalities uh are on the hook for [2:00:06] that unfunded liability [2:00:10] all right that's what I was wondering [2:00:11] that's why I like my tier one retirement [2:00:14] tier one and tier two of course [2:00:18] and people wonder why I say peachy all [2:00:20] the time [2:00:22] any other questions [2:00:25] I'd like to ask about ADP sure how [2:00:28] that's going we you know with any [2:00:31] software transition I think that we've [2:00:33] had some stumbles [2:00:35] um we are a different organization than I [2:00:40] think ADP is used to working with [2:00:41] however ADP has worked with many uh [2:00:45] state and local agencies in the past [2:00:47] we are currently working through a few [2:00:52] more hurdles I would say that [2:00:55] we have discovered as we've kind of dug [2:00:58] our heels in or as we've made changes [2:01:00] then something else has to change in [2:01:02] order to accommodate our unique uh [2:01:05] paying our unique payroll but that is [2:01:10] part of why we also decided that [2:01:12] bringing on a payroll specialist would [2:01:13] better serve the city so that they could [2:01:15] tackle a lot of that on an everyday [2:01:17] basis [2:01:19] and we've been using them for how long [2:01:20] now uh do we officially launched with [2:01:23] our first payroll January 6th and we're [2:01:27] still running into issues that we didn't [2:01:28] realize we we went through three months [2:01:33] and two months of uh what I would call [2:01:35] decent payrolls where things were [2:01:37] working relatively well [2:01:39] um and then certainly we have recently [2:01:41] discovered some additional issues that [2:01:43] arose in March [2:01:45] um and so we are [2:01:47] currently fixing those [2:01:49] um some of it is you know as we go [2:01:51] through and add additional intricacies [2:01:54] for various departments to meet needs [2:01:57] that has created additional problems in [2:01:59] some cases and answered questions in [2:02:01] other places [2:02:02] um but it is it is still a system in [2:02:04] transition I would call it we're not [2:02:05] even six months into this and I would [2:02:08] argue that we're doing better than a lot [2:02:10] of other places [2:02:11] that maybe we've seen or having payroll [2:02:14] issues broadly [2:02:17] I'm not too concerned about other places [2:02:19] I just want to make sure our folks were [2:02:21] taken care of properly because they go [2:02:23] to work for us every single day and some [2:02:26] of them put their life on the line for [2:02:27] us every day right I learned in the Army [2:02:31] one thing you never messed with is the [2:02:32] Soldier's pay [2:02:34] it's just you know I want to make sure [2:02:36] it's done right we value the the [2:02:38] employees in this organization we are [2:02:40] doing our very very best to make sure [2:02:43] that that system gets built to in a [2:02:45] manner that will serve this organization [2:02:47] in the long run [2:02:49] um I'm confident that we will work out [2:02:53] any remaining issues and that things [2:02:55] will go well down the road but we are [2:02:58] still in an implementation phase are you [2:03:00] keeping track of this kind of stuff so [2:03:02] you can do an after Action Report [2:03:03] lessons learned that sort of thing yes [2:03:05] I'd like to sit in on something like [2:03:08] that when uh when that comes around okay [2:03:14] how it's going in a kind of deeper dive [2:03:17] into some of the issues we've run into [2:03:19] and some of the solutions that we've [2:03:21] implemented to address those like later [2:03:24] not right sure but yeah we will [2:03:26] certainly work to put something together [2:03:28] for you all [2:03:29] um that can provide some insight [2:03:32] I'd like to know the hurdles more [2:03:33] specific on what exactly hurdles are [2:03:35] facing and how they've affected snap [2:03:37] okay yeah if we could do that offline uh [2:03:40] after this meeting come together and sit [2:03:44] down and talk about that [2:03:45] because I know a lot of us hear things [2:03:48] and we'd like to eliminate to hear [2:03:50] things and get the get the facts [2:03:53] imagine that with in collaboration with [2:03:56] the city manager's office and the mayor [2:03:57] we'll we'll work on how best to to [2:04:00] present that to you all and to get [2:04:02] information out [2:04:03] thank you okay thank you any other [2:04:06] questions [2:04:07] okay thank you can I throw a [2:04:09] non-departmental in there real fast just [2:04:11] so you all have kind of that information [2:04:13] sure non-departmental uh covers [2:04:16] expenditures that really don't belong in [2:04:18] a specific Department uh in the city of [2:04:20] Lebanon you'll find that in two places [2:04:22] the general fund has a non-departmental [2:04:24] section uh primary budget for that area [2:04:27] includes uh the last remaining arpa [2:04:30] dollars for next year that could be [2:04:34] utilized for whatever within uh certain [2:04:38] restrictions whatever the council uh [2:04:41] deems necessary [2:04:43] um so we've budgeted 270 000 for the [2:04:45] following fiscal year for this coming [2:04:47] fiscal year for that purpose [2:04:49] um there is also a continuing uh [2:04:52] repayment to the Northwest urban renewal [2:04:54] District after the city exceeded its [2:04:57] maximum debt indebtedness requirements [2:04:59] uh and spent some money on on items that [2:05:02] maybe it shouldn't have out of the urd [2:05:04] in the past [2:05:06] um and so 225 is budgeted out of the [2:05:09] general fund to continue that process of [2:05:11] repaying that urd [2:05:14] the other highlight in that area is [2:05:16] insurance [2:05:18] we were told by our insurance carrier [2:05:21] this year to expect a 35 increase in our [2:05:25] property casualty premiums for the [2:05:28] coming fiscal year [2:05:29] certainly a jaw-dropping moment for [2:05:32] myself and for the department heads that [2:05:35] have insurance requirements in their [2:05:36] budgets [2:05:38] um [2:05:39] that is that it consists of two [2:05:41] different things the city went through [2:05:43] a process this last year in which a kind [2:05:47] of reevaluation was done by the [2:05:49] insurance company by our uh by CIS [2:05:53] going around reviewing our properties [2:05:55] deciding if if there needed to be [2:05:57] changes as far as the ultimate valuation [2:05:59] of those facilities [2:06:01] um ultimately that provided a [2:06:03] significant increase to our overall [2:06:06] premiums and then a 12 percent just [2:06:09] general rate increase across the board [2:06:10] for all organizations [2:06:12] is also built into that so certainly a [2:06:16] sticker shock item for us it did hurt [2:06:18] significantly and certainly something [2:06:21] for us to kind of review as we move [2:06:22] forward [2:06:23] but that 35 percent increase is budgeted [2:06:26] in the general fund for a part of our [2:06:30] overall insurance requirements [2:06:33] um [2:06:34] the other piece in which you will see [2:06:36] kind of non-departmental expenditures is [2:06:39] the motel tax fund [2:06:41] um of this this is the transit occupancy [2:06:43] tax also known as lodging tax it goes by [2:06:46] many names [2:06:48] um we have [2:06:51] just north of a hundred thousand dollars [2:06:54] budgeted and overall expenditures and [2:06:56] actually you can see it on page [2:06:59] something [2:07:04] um [2:07:06] squatter there it is 78. [2:07:11] um [2:07:12] we have some significantly almost four [2:07:15] hundred thousand dollars in budgeted [2:07:16] funds [2:07:17] um 228 000 of that is labeled as capital [2:07:21] outlay that's money that has been set [2:07:23] aside to enhance some of our Parks [2:07:28] facilities potentially that could draw [2:07:31] additional tourism to the to the city [2:07:34] and so that money has been set aside in [2:07:36] earmarked for that purpose the 169 000 [2:07:39] in materials and services [2:07:41] provides there was a question earlier [2:07:43] about [2:07:44] um you know uh the blanking on the [2:07:48] program [2:07:50] thanks downtown building restoration [2:07:52] that money is budgeted here as well as [2:07:55] contributions to the chamber and the [2:07:58] Lebanon Downtown Association [2:08:03] that's what I have for non-departmental [2:08:04] nice and easy [2:08:10] anybody got any questions [2:08:12] okay [2:08:14] thanks let's move on to [2:08:17] Ron and Jason Public Works and [2:08:20] engineering [2:08:22] somehow they ended up him here on a tag [2:08:25] team thing they're basically two halves [2:08:27] of a whole is that what it is that's [2:08:29] what that's what I'm pretty sure that's [2:08:31] what it is I was thinking I was thinking [2:08:32] of it I was thinking of a movie title [2:08:35] but you know [2:08:36] don't say it I was gonna say Cheech and [2:08:39] Chong you know couldn't be [2:08:42] yeah well I'll get started with a few [2:08:44] that are we have one internal service [2:08:46] fund within Public Works Public Works is [2:08:49] responsible for [2:08:51] the maintenance and operation of our [2:08:54] Utility Systems our city buildings our [2:08:56] city-owned property [2:08:59] um our Recreation areas [2:09:02] and Public Works we have 32 positions in [2:09:05] total 31 of them are are filled and [2:09:08] we'll have one that remains vacant [2:09:11] I think that's the one we're discussing [2:09:12] from the Wastewater Plant [2:09:15] so starting on page 59 for custodial and [2:09:19] building maintenance [2:09:20] is our internal service fund [2:09:23] Nancy highlighted earlier that this is [2:09:25] an ad this year for a fleet mechanic [2:09:29] that will help [2:09:30] throughout the city [2:09:33] it's really pretty stagnant we we have a [2:09:36] little bit of a balance in there [2:09:37] contingency so to speak so we could [2:09:39] replace things that fail which [2:09:43] compressors on top of the Justice Center [2:09:45] there's [2:09:46] just four of them in each unit and we're [2:09:49] already starting to drop off and so [2:09:51] we're building up a little bit of a [2:09:54] contingency in that fund to handle some [2:09:56] of those things as they as they happen [2:09:59] any questions about that one [2:10:04] the next one that is a non-utility is [2:10:07] Parks [2:10:09] our Parks Department [2:10:11] is responsible for a tremendous amount [2:10:14] of acreage and activities within the [2:10:16] city [2:10:17] every Sports field [2:10:19] if you know a kid playing on a sports [2:10:23] field we've had something to do with the [2:10:24] maintenance of that field whether it's [2:10:26] School District property or city of [2:10:27] Lebanon property [2:10:30] the parks fund you'll see has a infusion [2:10:33] of money for this budget Year and that [2:10:36] was from a grant we received for the [2:10:38] cheetah Lake Project you guys should [2:10:40] remember that one [2:10:43] other than that it's maintained really [2:10:45] constant it's just [2:10:48] we're kind of in a [2:10:51] just get through it phase just the [2:10:53] maintenance and operation of the [2:10:54] facilities [2:10:56] unfortunately to say we only have one playground structure in the city of [2:11:01] Lebanon that's accessible [2:11:03] at all for anybody with Ada restrictions [2:11:08] and that's at Christopher Columbus Park [2:11:10] that's something we hope to change [2:11:14] any questions on Parks [2:11:17] okay [2:11:19] foreign so the reason we're doing this [2:11:23] probably together is because we're kind [2:11:24] of tight at the hip on most everything [2:11:26] that happens when it relates to public [2:11:28] work and Engineering [2:11:30] um so for the engineering department we [2:11:32] have seven ftes including myself [2:11:35] um [2:11:35] we kind of Shuffle Up and Deal uh every [2:11:38] so often and who's going to be doing [2:11:39] what I have one dedicated person that [2:11:42] does development but all told if you [2:11:44] split it out just about right we'd have [2:11:46] about four and a half FTE towards the [2:11:49] capital program and then probably two [2:11:51] and a half staff person per year to [2:11:54] handle a development workload right now [2:11:57] so that's kind of how we're we're broken [2:11:59] out and it doesn't mean that somebody [2:12:02] that's doing Capital won't be pulled [2:12:04] over to do a development project at some [2:12:07] point we do whatever is in front of us [2:12:10] and whatever needs to be done so they're [2:12:12] all the staff are really good about [2:12:13] doing that we're primarily funded out of [2:12:17] water Wastewater storm and streets 38 [2:12:20] drain or 38 water five percent drainage [2:12:24] 43 streets or 43 percent Wastewater and [2:12:29] four percent streets and in our [2:12:31] Development Fund generates about 10 [2:12:32] percent that covers that cost as well [2:12:34] you ask how did I come up with the [2:12:36] numbers it kind of varies year to year [2:12:38] with we base it on uh how much work we [2:12:42] have in sewer this year versus how much [2:12:43] work we have in water so that number [2:12:45] shifts a little bit each year uh we try [2:12:47] and follow where the projects are [2:12:49] primarily happening [2:12:51] um [2:12:52] with that our operational costs this [2:12:54] year uh you'll notice some pretty big [2:12:56] operational costs [2:12:58] um those aren't necessarily associated [2:13:01] with our materials and services but and [2:13:04] the water fund our operational costs are [2:13:07] about 1.7 million uh 1.2 million of that [2:13:10] is attached to the water treatment plant [2:13:12] demolition project so that'll be a [2:13:13] contract project same thing in [2:13:15] Wastewater about 1.2 million in [2:13:19] operational costs and close to 700 000 [2:13:22] that is Sewer Lateral program and also [2:13:24] your Wastewater Master Plan update so [2:13:27] those those are why those are so high [2:13:30] and then of course we have a little bit [2:13:31] of operational costs in streets and in [2:13:33] our development review [2:13:35] this year we're projecting it at to be [2:13:37] at about 160 000 in revenue and permit [2:13:40] fees and review fees so [2:13:43] uh I've got a pretty big list on page 11 [2:13:47] um of the budget book which shows the [2:13:49] capital projects for this coming year [2:13:52] um [2:13:54] I'm I'm fairly confident that we're not [2:13:56] going to get to all those [2:13:58] um we're going to do our best to get to [2:14:00] a lot of them uh over the last probably [2:14:03] three to five years things have really [2:14:05] slowed down in terms of [2:14:08] how we work with outside agencies it [2:14:11] seems like things have slowed uh which [2:14:14] increases project time [2:14:16] to get things done so this list here uh [2:14:20] you know we'll get a good chunk of it [2:14:21] done [2:14:22] but [2:14:23] um I can pretty much assure you that not [2:14:25] all of that's going to get done at one [2:14:28] time and a lot of it depends on where [2:14:29] we're working to and and how long [2:14:32] contracts go and and how that all works [2:14:34] out so that's kind of Engineering in a [2:14:36] nutshell I can answer any questions we [2:14:39] use sdcs a lot and utility funds so I'm [2:14:42] more than happy to answer any questions [2:14:45] run [2:14:47] um the increase in the lateral program [2:14:50] which I'm glad to see [2:14:52] is that enough or will we still run out [2:14:54] do you think so what's the projection [2:14:56] part of the budget presentation was done [2:14:59] was was out to print that's actually [2:15:01] changed yet again [2:15:03] um there's about 330 000 budgeted to [2:15:07] laterals this year wow at least that [2:15:09] enough when we started the beginning of [2:15:11] that program wasn't it like 50 or I [2:15:13] can't remember what um it's right around [2:15:15] 90. was it so to give you a snapshot of [2:15:18] what that looks like probably three to [2:15:20] four years ago we were 6 000 on average [2:15:22] uh per lateral yeah right now I looked [2:15:25] our lowest lateral last year was 12 000. [2:15:28] wow okay so that in and of itself uh has [2:15:33] been a big hit we had some that were 25 [2:15:35] 000. [2:15:36] um so you know if you're on a truck [2:15:38] route and you're really deep it makes [2:15:40] those prices go up but uh we're not [2:15:43] doing any more this year we're going out [2:15:46] and we're getting the the quotes for [2:15:48] them [2:15:49] um so that they'll be ready to go on [2:15:51] July 1 right now we're sitting at about [2:15:53] 50 000 starting July one so we'll see [2:15:56] how it goes but there comes a point [2:15:58] where we can't put all of our money into [2:16:01] laterals and not put money into our our [2:16:04] sewer Maids as well so there's there's [2:16:07] that balance and then next year that 50 [2:16:10] 000 maybe there's not any more I doubt [2:16:12] it but it's hard to predict it's a great [2:16:14] program are we are we the only ones [2:16:17] doing it are there other municipalities [2:16:19] I think there's other municipalities [2:16:20] that do it yeah I couldn't remember [2:16:22] uh it's for a homeowner um it's a good [2:16:25] thing but it's also a good thing for us [2:16:26] in terms of ridding the system of uh [2:16:29] inflow and infiltration uh which just [2:16:31] means Jason has to treat it when when [2:16:33] they come out there because our old [2:16:35] laterals tend to be very leaky and so [2:16:38] you get a lot of groundwater into them [2:16:40] yeah we are doing some [2:16:43] um for the remainder of this fiscal year [2:16:46] in-house as we can because it is such a [2:16:49] big deal for us to plug some of these [2:16:51] leaks [2:16:55] on the the wish list there the uh [2:16:59] engineering projects you said you might [2:17:02] not get to all those this year and I [2:17:04] understand that will that money just [2:17:06] carry because it's a budgeted they're [2:17:07] all budgeted for this fiscal year it'll [2:17:09] just carry over into the next year what [2:17:11] isn't used that's the the wonderful [2:17:13] thing about the utilities you know it's [2:17:16] not so wonderful that you can't get [2:17:17] everything done but the great news is it [2:17:19] doesn't get spent it just carries [2:17:20] forward so and we find out with a lot of [2:17:22] our projects we'll budget for them and [2:17:24] then you know that might not happen this [2:17:26] year but you've still got that money and [2:17:28] you do it next year so yeah [2:17:31] launching at the airport installed so [2:17:32] light in I'll be happy yeah yeah amen [2:17:35] yes yes I would agree yes okay any [2:17:40] questions for this gentlemen [2:17:42] I actually have one more right sure we [2:17:45] spent some time talking about the safety officer safety course safety [2:17:49] coordinator uh sounds like you two have [2:17:52] had uh direct interaction or maybe seen [2:17:55] results from that do you feel like [2:17:57] that's a [2:17:59] you think it's enough bang for the buck [2:18:02] to justify that position for as far as [2:18:04] engineering and Public Works are [2:18:05] concerned [2:18:07] uh not had much interaction with with [2:18:10] that position uh I think Jason's [2:18:12] probably had the most most interaction [2:18:14] with that position with the plants uh [2:18:16] but we've had I've had very long [2:18:17] interaction [2:18:18] with that position yeah so the OSHA [2:18:21] violation was a gas line that we hit uh [2:18:24] that was that was really valuable having [2:18:26] someone else take care of that record [2:18:27] keeping for us and kind of break that root cause stuff [2:18:32] down normally it would be something I [2:18:33] would do [2:18:35] um [2:18:36] the involvement at the wastewater [2:18:37] treatment plant you know we took that [2:18:38] over we had really no idea what we were [2:18:40] getting into we [2:18:42] nobody on our staff had ever ran a [2:18:44] wastewater treatment plant before so it [2:18:46] was a crash course in learning [2:18:48] and so the safety concerns out there [2:18:51] I mean we were just [2:18:53] using best management practices so [2:18:56] it's nice to have some backup as far as [2:18:59] that's concerned I've [2:19:01] what the results are I have no idea [2:19:04] okay that's Nancy's job yeah I'm I'm [2:19:06] just curious like long term if if this [2:19:09] is one of those things where once [2:19:10] everyone's properly trained and caught [2:19:12] up on this if it'd be something we could [2:19:14] manage internally again [2:19:16] like this is almost an audit being done [2:19:19] I hate to add positions when you look at [2:19:22] like [2:19:23] the purse cost being 32 percent in in a [2:19:26] few years from now and the general tone [2:19:29] of the budget is [2:19:32] I wouldn't say Doom and Gloom but it's [2:19:34] um it's not all roses so to add to add a [2:19:38] position now that may be a position we [2:19:40] have to cut later and I I just hate to [2:19:42] do that so I was just trying to get see [2:19:43] how much benefit you guys are seeing [2:19:45] from that that position one one thing [2:19:47] that I would note is all of our Public [2:19:49] Works contracts require the contractor [2:19:51] to have a safety program [2:19:53] so it would not be the responsibility of [2:19:56] the city of Lebanon to go in and tell [2:19:57] contractor X how to implement their safety program uh they're they're [2:20:02] all required to do that obviously if [2:20:05] there's something that's grossly [2:20:07] negligent uh our inspectors will be on [2:20:10] top of that but that's not our role [2:20:13] out there in the field especially on [2:20:15] contract stuff thank you [2:20:17] I have a question [2:20:19] um in Nancy's budget message she talks [2:20:21] about and you guys have talked about it [2:20:23] before the pee fast I don't know if I'm [2:20:26] saying that correctly [2:20:27] um anyway so I just want to make sure [2:20:30] you know if this is likely [2:20:33] these changes are likely either at the [2:20:35] federal or state or some level that's [2:20:37] going to tell us what to do are we doing [2:20:38] anything is there well wait is there [2:20:40] anything we can do to prepare ourselves [2:20:42] and be ready for something like that [2:20:45] um I'm just looking ahead and I assume [2:20:48] someday someone's going to tell us we [2:20:50] have to to track this stuff or to take [2:20:52] it out or whatever so yeah we're doing [2:20:54] that now we're uh we started sampling [2:20:56] two months ago before that we're we're [2:20:58] not we haven't been directed to but the [2:21:01] last thing I want to do is come before [2:21:02] you guys and say hey we need 350 million [2:21:06] dollars right now today this is why I'm [2:21:07] asking the question yeah so we're trying [2:21:10] to get an idea of what our system has [2:21:12] okay uh what our potential risk would be [2:21:14] so that maybe we can plan responsibly [2:21:17] to correct that what the limits are what level of removal will have to have [2:21:23] if we'll have to have any level of [2:21:24] removal that's just going to be [2:21:27] come out of the regulations from Oregon Health [2:21:31] Authority well I'm glad to hear at least [2:21:32] you know you've been tracking it and [2:21:34] then at least we know when it comes down [2:21:36] we'll know what to anticipate so yeah [2:21:39] and we'll we'll keep you guys updated [2:21:40] when we get results for that as we get [2:21:42] results for those tests we'll have the [2:21:45] same battle with the lead and copper [2:21:47] rule that's coming out [2:21:48] that this throughout the city there's [2:21:50] really no rule yet there's nothing to [2:21:52] find there's not a course of action [2:21:55] for the new regulations but there will [2:21:57] be so we're trying to ready ourselves [2:21:59] the best that we can for that [2:22:02] thank you for forward thinking on that I [2:22:04] appreciate it yeah you're welcome yeah [2:22:07] any other questions [2:22:10] okay gentlemen thank you very much thank [2:22:12] you thank you [2:22:14] okay we've got an addition to this [2:22:19] uh did you guys want to talk at the same [2:22:21] time [2:22:22] okay so you you have several public [2:22:25] hearings that you need to hold the first [2:22:28] one scheduled is on state revenue [2:22:30] sharing and basically you're going to [2:22:32] open the public hearing see if anyone [2:22:33] wants to speak on stage did you want me [2:22:36] to do this right after these and then right after state revenue and [2:22:39] my assumption is no one wishes to speak [2:22:42] on state revenue sharing because nobody [2:22:44] ever does [2:22:45] um but then uh move to the Lebanon [2:22:47] budget you want to do these after the [2:22:49] and and that would be the public hearing [2:22:51] for the budget [2:22:52] you would call on okay people who wish [2:22:55] to speak for the public hearing on the [2:22:57] budget [2:22:58] does that make sense probably not but [2:23:01] we'll figure it out okay they would [2:23:03] speak on on 7B [2:23:06] after you open it okay yeah they'll talk [2:23:09] on 7B okay [2:23:11] all right well hang tight we'll get [2:23:13] right to you [2:23:14] okay public hearing [2:23:17] um I'm going to open the public hearing [2:23:19] on state shared revenues [2:23:23] at this time at 2 23 P.M [2:23:31] so you want to give this sure sorry so [2:23:36] state revenue sharing uh those are items [2:23:39] they are primarily they're all contained [2:23:41] in our general fund [2:23:44] um we per we get uh one line is just [2:23:47] considered state revenue sharing it's [2:23:49] just kind of a general pot that the [2:23:50] state distributes to all municipalities [2:23:53] most of the most of the revenues [2:23:56] distributed are all based on per capita [2:23:58] figures so population counts [2:24:01] um as as delivered by Portland State [2:24:04] University and their their population [2:24:07] Research Center I think it is or [2:24:09] something like that [2:24:11] um the other items that we receive in [2:24:14] state revenue sharing consist of [2:24:18] I'm gonna forget all of them uh we get a [2:24:22] portion of marijuana taxes that is [2:24:24] significantly lower than it has been in [2:24:26] the past uh due to the passage of [2:24:28] measure measure 110 uh we also receive [2:24:31] state revenue sharing from what they [2:24:33] what has generally been called in the [2:24:35] past sin taxes so cigarette taxes uh [2:24:39] liquor taxes uh am I missing one that's [2:24:43] it that's it [2:24:45] um the quite honestly the uh you can [2:24:48] find all of these on page 108 [2:24:52] of your budget document [2:24:55] um [2:24:55] but primarily we've seen some small [2:24:58] increase and uh based on what the state [2:25:01] revenue forecasts are telling us to [2:25:03] expect the one that has gone down over [2:25:05] the years is the state cigarette revenue [2:25:08] and you can see that in the [2:25:10] corresponding line as cigarettes are just less popular [2:25:16] these days so but otherwise for the most [2:25:19] part everything else is up those [2:25:20] revenues we allocate just for the [2:25:22] general purpose of the organization we [2:25:25] spend them in the general fund [2:25:27] to offset departments that don't have [2:25:31] dedicated revenues [2:25:35] any questions [2:25:40] okay [2:25:43] will the City attorney please read the [2:25:45] title of the resolution [2:25:48] that's what you just handed General [2:25:51] motions on the bottom did General motion [2:25:53] well you want a general motion I can [2:25:55] make a motion yeah I move the uh to [2:25:58] recommend the city of Lebanon Council [2:26:00] adopt state revenue sharing monies as [2:26:02] non-dedicated Revenue in the general [2:26:03] fund [2:26:04] second [2:26:05] right been moved and seconded all those [2:26:08] in favor [2:26:09] aye aye opposed [2:26:12] you can give them that back I don't need [2:26:14] that just just confuse me [2:26:19] infused tray over there he was getting [2:26:21] ready what what am I reading [2:26:23] I'll try not to [2:26:25] no one wants lawyer awake [2:26:29] okay I will close the public hearing on [2:26:32] state shared revenues [2:26:35] I can't use that that's two of them I [2:26:39] know all right do you want me to use it [2:26:41] for you yeah which please thank you only [2:26:44] a fireman [2:26:46] okay FY 20 23 24 proposed city of [2:26:50] Lebanon budget [2:26:53] and I will open that hearing now [2:26:59] yes now we have some public testimony [2:27:04] Genie and Cody at last you get to speak [2:27:08] thank you for your patience thank you for your patience and uh [2:27:13] our weird humor [2:27:17] go ahead and pull those things in close [2:27:19] to you [2:27:20] because I'm not short I gotta talk [2:27:22] louder I was told that before I'm so [2:27:25] we're here on behalf of the Lebanon [2:27:27] Downtown Association and your continued [2:27:29] support for our Main Street manager our [2:27:31] Main Street manager is instrumental in [2:27:33] keeping us connected with Oregon Main [2:27:35] Street their resources their grant [2:27:38] funding and having the time and ability [2:27:40] to help our Merchants with grant funding [2:27:42] last year we were able to write a grant [2:27:44] for 200 000 and help two of our downtown [2:27:47] businesses with Renovations of the [2:27:49] second floor without our Main Street [2:27:52] manager that time that it takes to write [2:27:54] those grants is going to be almost [2:27:56] impossible for a very active board [2:27:58] everybody's doing as much as they can to [2:28:01] bring events downtown [2:28:03] to bring activities for Main Street but [2:28:06] really the overall operations of the [2:28:08] Downtown Association really has to come [2:28:10] from our Main Street manager [2:28:12] in your packet I did pass out kind of I [2:28:15] was really ready to present at City [2:28:17] Council in May and I got all messed up [2:28:19] so this is kind of a little bit of that [2:28:21] what we do and who we are through the [2:28:24] last 30 days of all of our Facebook [2:28:26] traffic all of the events Cinco de Mayo [2:28:28] we had 30 businesses engage with us for [2:28:32] Cinco de Mayo our first Friday [2:28:34] and so we've increased our following on [2:28:37] Facebook we've increased our Instagram [2:28:38] following [2:28:40] um and these are not just individuals in [2:28:42] Lebanon they're individuals from Eugene [2:28:44] to Salem and so we'll present that data [2:28:46] as well [2:28:49] um kind of we worked really hard last [2:28:51] month to get our finances in order to [2:28:53] get from our former Treasurer to our new [2:28:56] Treasurer Cody and kind of looked at our [2:28:58] finances and you can as you can see in [2:29:00] your packet our funding sources pretty [2:29:02] much the city and that is for our Main [2:29:05] Street manager we do have some donations [2:29:07] we do have some sponsorships are specific for the events [2:29:12] that we have so an individual [2:29:13] organization will sponsor a Bruisin [2:29:16] bands in the park for one weekend so we [2:29:18] do have that [2:29:19] um as well and our expenses of course [2:29:22] our our Main Street manager that puts in [2:29:24] so much work I'm connecting our downtown [2:29:27] businesses with grant funding [2:29:29] opportunities resources [2:29:33] um and yeah operations operations is [2:29:35] really just our Printing and our [2:29:37] advertising our online expenses is our [2:29:40] um give our donation online donation [2:29:43] program that we use and our Google Drive [2:29:45] that normal stuff in our website design [2:29:47] so there's not a lot of expenses other [2:29:49] than having that Main Street manager [2:29:51] they're available for us to keep our [2:29:53] community connected and really improve [2:29:55] downtown [2:29:58] so also in your packet I wrote kind of [2:30:00] our accomplishments for this last for [2:30:02] the 2022 we are organized by four [2:30:06] committees operations promotions design [2:30:09] and economic vitality and kind of in [2:30:11] that you can see every all the work that [2:30:13] each of our committees has has done in [2:30:16] the last [2:30:17] um 12 months [2:30:19] we do have a community cleanup day [2:30:21] coming up and we have other programs [2:30:23] that we're looking at right now to add [2:30:25] to that movies in the park [2:30:27] um those kind of things hopefully a [2:30:28] Saturday market combining with the one [2:30:30] that's already here in town but really [2:30:32] that again that overall organization of [2:30:35] what we can do really is going to come [2:30:37] from our Main Street manager position [2:30:41] I'll turn it over to Cody [2:30:44] so just wanted to talk a little bit [2:30:45] about the restoration reimbursement and [2:30:48] this year we had reimbursed 127 [2:30:52] 756 32 cents from the states to uh [2:30:56] restoring buildings downtown [2:30:59] um we've we have seen a vast Improvement [2:31:01] and just a facelift [2:31:03] we also have been if you look at numbers [2:31:07] from last year we've got a significant [2:31:08] increase this year so far in Quarter Two [2:31:11] from donations and sponsorships [2:31:16] in fact our entire last year we were [2:31:20] about 60 percent of what we received in [2:31:22] donations last year already to date here [2:31:25] in the first five months Gina talked [2:31:28] about the movies in the park that's a new Endeavor we've ordered our [2:31:31] screen and facilities for that we [2:31:35] already have three of the Six movie [2:31:38] series for the summer sponsored by [2:31:39] different businesses we're working on [2:31:42] the national guard coming out providing [2:31:46] obstacle courses pull-up competitions [2:31:48] food carts just adding to the [2:31:51] festivities and that's going to be held [2:31:53] here at Ralston Park [2:31:56] um or sorry uh Academy Square now we're [2:31:58] kind of transitioning a lot of the stuff [2:31:59] over there [2:32:01] um music music in the concerts in the [2:32:04] park series and bands and Brews are [2:32:06] still ongoing [2:32:07] um and becoming you know better than [2:32:08] ever as we are engaging more with the [2:32:11] communities [2:32:13] um one of the big things with economic [2:32:14] Vitality tonight we have our first [2:32:17] meeting with our block captains a lot of [2:32:19] these are as we Rebrand and reorganize [2:32:22] we're throwing some new new Partnerships [2:32:24] in there so we do have Merchants [2:32:27] participating in our black Captain [2:32:28] program and that is that there's a block [2:32:30] Captain for each block downtown to be [2:32:32] able to be a transmitter and receiver of [2:32:34] information that's pertinent to business [2:32:36] owners here [2:32:38] um one of the oh as everyone knows one [2:32:40] of the ongoing debates downtown is you [2:32:44] know are we are we four are we opposed [2:32:46] to homeless sleeping areas downtown [2:32:49] our job as block captains are to be the [2:32:52] voice of our merchants and community [2:32:54] members so one thing that we are doing [2:32:57] is going out and interviewing issues [2:32:59] like this interviewing each and every [2:33:01] business owner and representative of [2:33:03] those businesses to see what it was your [2:33:05] take on these certain circumstances and [2:33:08] how do we represent you better so you'll [2:33:11] see me probably speaking at our next [2:33:13] meeting on things like that but it's just [2:33:17] important for us to be hearing the [2:33:19] voices of merchants making sure that [2:33:21] downtown is being properly represented [2:33:26] um [2:33:27] pretty much all I got for you today [2:33:31] any questions [2:33:34] so I understand you guys are asking for [2:33:37] the manager [2:33:39] to be included in the budget correct and what's the number you're [2:33:44] talking [2:33:45] thirty thousand that was thirty thousand [2:33:47] last year we'd like to continue that in [2:33:49] the budget [2:33:51] we've worked with the Secretary of State [2:33:53] we're compliant we've done our 990 they [2:33:56] let me go back three years so we did 20 [2:33:58] 21 and 22 waiting for any more paperwork [2:34:02] beyond that but right now we're we're in [2:34:04] good standing [2:34:06] Secretary of State as well yeah you're [2:34:08] in good standing with Secretary of State [2:34:10] correct [2:34:11] IRS yes yeah [2:34:14] did they give you a conditional approval [2:34:17] not yet but we have our paperwork in so [2:34:20] the last three years not a 501c3 [2:34:22] currently [2:34:35] right we've we've done a lot of work in [2:34:37] the last six months to find to get out [2:34:40] of that hole financially [2:34:42] um and figure out where all of that [2:34:44] we've all dropped the ball on [2:34:46] um we've we're working really hard on [2:34:47] that so right now we we submitted [2:34:49] paperwork to the IRS for the last three [2:34:52] years we're waiting for them to come [2:34:54] back and tell us [2:34:55] if we need to do more and that was from [2:34:58] the advice of Oregon Main Street we we [2:35:00] called them we had a conference with [2:35:02] Oregon Main Street how do we clean this [2:35:04] up right and that's and it's good and I [2:35:06] think having a vibrant Downtown [2:35:09] Association is good but being good [2:35:11] stewards of the money that we are [2:35:13] handing out is important also [2:35:16] right now you're not a 501c3 you're [2:35:19] waiting for approval but you are you did [2:35:22] get your CT 12 done and into the state [2:35:24] and I see the secretary of state is uh [2:35:29] recognizing you correct as partners for [2:35:31] Progress not LDA right we've always been [2:35:35] partners for Progress that's the way it [2:35:37] started LDA yeah we operate under LDA [2:35:40] yeah but yeah our secretary of state [2:35:42] registry is partners for progress [2:35:47] I'm not comfortable [2:35:49] providing money when we've had this much [2:35:53] issues in money management and Reporting [2:35:57] I think that um [2:36:00] do we have a contract with them [2:36:07] on track with them [2:36:08] for yet we do have one with them for for [2:36:11] the current fiscal year we would be [2:36:13] negotiating a new contract with them for [2:36:15] fiscal 24. [2:36:17] and previously did we just provide them [2:36:20] the funds we did yeah I mean a lump sum [2:36:24] kind of thing yes [2:36:26] and did we ever get an accounting on how [2:36:29] that money was spent [2:36:30] no other than what you have in front of [2:36:33] you I haven't seen balance sheets or [2:36:36] income statements we don't have any of [2:36:37] that we also don't ask that of the of [2:36:39] the chamber too [2:36:41] no but my understanding was the [2:36:44] agreement was that they would provide [2:36:45] that before [2:36:47] that has been in the agreement yes and [2:36:50] so it's not asking for something new [2:36:52] it's something that was agreed to [2:36:57] steak I wasn't aware of that so yeah [2:37:01] before we before we approve it I would [2:37:03] recommend that we get an agreement [2:37:06] re-upped [2:37:07] with [2:37:09] some Matrix performance matrixes or [2:37:11] reporting matrixes [2:37:14] and we pay it out [2:37:16] like on a quarterly basis kind of thing [2:37:19] so it will help us and we'll help you [2:37:22] guys maintain accountability when you [2:37:24] got to do it every quarter to get the [2:37:26] money [2:37:31] I was brought on here as a Treasurer in February in the end of February and [2:37:37] um we did find some you know some things [2:37:39] that needed to be addressed obviously [2:37:40] some of these things that we're talking [2:37:42] about now came to light and [2:37:45] um been spending some time trying to [2:37:46] make sure that you know at least from then through now are reporting and [2:37:52] financially has been kept update I do [2:37:54] have quite a few years of back dating to [2:37:56] go through [2:37:58] um so that's that is something I'm [2:38:00] working working in the direction I feel [2:38:02] myself I know how easy it is to [2:38:05] miss things uh and things can fall [2:38:08] through the crack yeah and things get [2:38:10] very confusing when you're trying to [2:38:12] balance Federal versus State and CT 12 [2:38:16] 990 easy or big one or whatever [2:38:20] but it it's something that [2:38:23] I I believe needs to get your you need [2:38:26] to get your hands around so that the [2:38:27] community can believe in it too yeah [2:38:29] absolutely [2:38:31] and I would appreciate and enjoy working [2:38:33] actually with the city on a quarterly [2:38:34] basis because it's you know frankly this [2:38:37] is my first Treasury and first [2:38:39] non-profit board spot here so [2:38:43] um more experienced better for the [2:38:46] organization [2:38:47] well I'm just one person but my thought [2:38:49] is you need to get that agreement in [2:38:51] place before monies are agreed to we can [2:38:54] get that done before the June council [2:38:56] meeting I think [2:38:59] directing staff to work with LDA to [2:39:02] accomplish that so we're not not getting [2:39:05] involved in it until it comes to us for [2:39:07] approval just does staff who does Nancy [2:39:11] feel like she has enough information to [2:39:13] follow with this if this is something [2:39:16] there's a consensus of counsel on [2:39:19] so I have the information I need I think [2:39:22] I would I would like to have just a [2:39:24] motion [2:39:25] that would give me uh the timeline if [2:39:28] you wanted to see the contract on your [2:39:31] agenda in June [2:39:34] um [2:39:35] doing public hearings first we would do [2:39:38] the budget adoption and the contract [2:39:39] would come later but having it in the [2:39:41] packet uh if I had a motion on it that [2:39:44] would give [2:39:45] um us LDA and staff a hard deadline to [2:39:48] get an agreement put in place and ready [2:39:50] to go into packet so if you wish to make [2:39:53] a motion I would once we close the [2:39:55] public hearing correct yeah thank you so [2:39:59] that's where I am on it just okay so [2:40:01] it's it's a doable thing and we would do [2:40:04] the motion when after it closes after [2:40:06] you close a public hearing and you've [2:40:07] got you've got two motions in the packet [2:40:09] here so and then we'll do a third one [2:40:11] that would be fine okay good anybody [2:40:15] have any anybody else have any questions [2:40:18] well I'm not as familiar with KJ with [2:40:20] doddington the eyes and the crossing of [2:40:22] the teaser accountant on here but I want [2:40:23] you know I fully support that position [2:40:25] and what it can do for downtown and I [2:40:27] think it's imperative that we have [2:40:28] somebody paying attention to that and I [2:40:30] appreciate that you are yeah [2:40:34] question for Nancy yes that position is [2:40:37] funded by the hotel tax previously is [2:40:40] that where that money was coming out of [2:40:42] that is correct and that's where it is [2:40:44] in the budget that's proposed in front [2:40:45] of you the thirty thousand dollars is in [2:40:47] the motel tax fund [2:40:50] and if it's okay that's previously that [2:40:54] thirty thousand dollars came out of the [2:40:55] motel tax fund that's correct but that [2:40:56] thirty thousand dollars isn't in this [2:40:58] next year's budget for that position it [2:41:00] is in there uh so a couple things to [2:41:05] remember one is you can appropriate it [2:41:07] and not spend it yeah but if you don't [2:41:09] appropriate it you definitely can't [2:41:10] spend it right so it's oftentimes better [2:41:13] to appropriate and even if we couldn't [2:41:15] get to agreement or the council said we [2:41:18] don't want to turn over any money until [2:41:20] December you know let's see what happens [2:41:22] we would not spend the money based on [2:41:25] that direction but if we don't have the [2:41:27] appropriation we can't create it after [2:41:29] the budget is adopted but it is [2:41:31] appropriated now it is it is in the [2:41:34] budget and assuming that it stays in the [2:41:37] budget what the council would take up at [2:41:39] the June meeting in your public hearing [2:41:40] and adoption would include that thirty [2:41:43] thousand dollars and again at that point [2:41:45] you could take it the council could take [2:41:47] it out of the budget at the council [2:41:49] table even if the budget committee [2:41:51] leaves it in and moves It Forward the [2:41:53] council can take it out [2:41:57] all right this whole time I thought they [2:41:58] were asking because we had cut it out of [2:42:00] the budget that's why I was a little [2:42:01] confused nope okay no it's in there the [2:42:04] uh [2:42:05] if if anybody's wondering why this is [2:42:07] taking so long the bottom line is uh [2:42:11] it's not our money [2:42:13] it's everybody else's money [2:42:15] so we got to be responsible and being [2:42:17] good stewards of this money okay that [2:42:19] goes for all entities that receive funds [2:42:23] so [2:42:24] um I'm for a motion that would [2:42:27] to hold them to benchmarks and do it [2:42:30] quarterly [2:42:31] as long as they obtain the benchmarks I [2:42:33] believe in the program I think it's a [2:42:35] good program but it needs to be run [2:42:36] above board [2:42:37] and I'm not not going to cast aspersions [2:42:40] on past people that were in the Downtown [2:42:42] Association at all because that's not my [2:42:45] job but it is my job to make sure that [2:42:48] the money's being taken care of it's [2:42:50] being spent correctly and it's it's [2:42:53] we're able to have a report on it but [2:42:55] where it's going [2:42:57] um you just seen a bunch of directors [2:42:59] that uh work very hard come up here and [2:43:03] sit in that chair right there and get [2:43:05] ask a lot of questions [2:43:07] so [2:43:08] um I know it's all volunteer most of the [2:43:11] part for Downtown Association and that [2:43:14] and the City of Lebanon and the citizens [2:43:16] of Lebanon appreciate that all the hard [2:43:18] work I've I've benefited from the [2:43:20] program that's why I think I believe in [2:43:22] the program but I also believe in being [2:43:24] good stewards of the money so back to [2:43:27] you [2:43:28] okay anybody have any other questions [2:43:31] [Music] [2:43:33] sure [2:43:37] yeah first thank you Mr Mayor for [2:43:38] recognizing that we are spitting [2:43:41] the citizens money [2:43:42] but from that point of view this is my [2:43:45] third year and this is an outstanding [2:43:47] document this year it's [2:43:49] remember right we're having a big fight [2:43:51] in the legislature right now because [2:43:52] they're writing everything that nobody [2:43:54] can understand you can understand this with a fourth [2:43:59] grade education that's great we need to [2:44:01] continue to do things like that I think [2:44:03] that's hats off to you Nancy thank you [2:44:05] for providing that to make it easy to [2:44:08] understand [2:44:09] my other question to the council is [2:44:13] I live over on the canal just by Shady [2:44:16] Lake and there's been explosive growth [2:44:18] in my neck of the woods [2:44:21] and explosive growth everywhere if you [2:44:23] look at all the multi-family [2:44:25] are you guys collecting enough in [2:44:28] development fees or whatever to cover [2:44:30] some of this [2:44:31] because from a business point of view [2:44:33] the grills is phenomenal but from a [2:44:37] budget point of view it don't look so [2:44:39] good so I think that's a hard question [2:44:40] you're going to have to continue to ask [2:44:43] yourself is [2:44:45] with all these girls how are we going to [2:44:47] pay for it you would think it would pay [2:44:48] for itself but apparently it's not so [2:44:51] that that's my general comment to to the [2:44:54] council [2:44:55] thank you [2:44:56] let me see if I can answer that [2:44:59] and I was going to say in 15 words or [2:45:01] less but it's going to take longer [2:45:03] um [2:45:06] when new development happens a developer [2:45:08] pays a number of fees they pay building [2:45:11] permit fees they pay they may pay [2:45:14] planning fees to go Annex a piece of [2:45:16] property or to develop that property and [2:45:19] identify where the infrastructure is [2:45:21] going associated with it [2:45:24] they pay systems development charges [2:45:26] which are designed to cover future costs [2:45:30] of [2:45:31] expansion to existing infrastructure [2:45:34] that is only needed because we have [2:45:36] additional growth so if you think about [2:45:38] a water treatment plant built to provide [2:45:40] water for 40 000 people at some point as [2:45:44] this community grows close to forty [2:45:46] thousand and you have to expand the [2:45:47] plant you have to have money for that [2:45:49] somewhere you say between twenty [2:45:52] thousand and forty thousand all those [2:45:53] people who move in are going to [2:45:55] contribute systems development charges [2:45:57] that provide most of the funding for [2:46:00] that plant expansion in the future [2:46:02] none of those fees [2:46:04] pay for the general fund Services they [2:46:08] don't there is no impact fee for adding [2:46:11] police officers or the fire department [2:46:13] would tell you adding another fire [2:46:15] station or firefighters there are no [2:46:17] impact fees that cover the cost of [2:46:21] additional land use planning Services [2:46:24] additional people at the library none of [2:46:27] that is built into any of those [2:46:30] resources so we sit with [2:46:33] the primary revenue in the general fund [2:46:35] is the property tax with tax rates that [2:46:38] were set in 1997 with growth and [2:46:41] assessed value limited basically to [2:46:43] three percent a year [2:46:45] so you heard me earlier talking about [2:46:47] our labor agreements you've got a cost [2:46:50] of living adjustment that's four percent [2:46:53] on a revenue that's growing three [2:46:56] now sometimes we've had good years so [2:46:59] next year we're projecting five percent [2:47:01] growth in property tax so you get the [2:47:03] three percent basic on your home and [2:47:05] your home in your home but you get a [2:47:07] knit a little bit more for the new [2:47:09] development and we're thinking that [2:47:11] that's about another two percent in [2:47:13] Revenue next year some years [2:47:15] yes some years no you you don't get that [2:47:18] new development but I will tell you that [2:47:20] over the long term and this is part of [2:47:22] the reason for the five-year financial [2:47:24] plan that revenue is not growing as fast [2:47:27] as our expenses and you have heard [2:47:29] routinely we should have more police [2:47:31] officers but it's expensive and we don't [2:47:34] have the revenue coming in to fund that [2:47:36] we should be funding the jail we should [2:47:38] be funding Senior Services right and [2:47:40] those are the challenges that I think [2:47:42] we're in along with [2:47:44] almost every other community in this [2:47:46] state places like Beaverton which is a [2:47:50] very wealthy community with huge [2:47:52] industrial tax base they're looking at [2:47:55] cutting their budget because their [2:47:57] revenue growth is not keeping up with [2:47:59] their expense growth [2:48:01] and unfortunately there is no room to [2:48:04] have an impact that says you build a new [2:48:05] apartment building you're gonna you're [2:48:07] gonna pay an impact fee that you know [2:48:09] will bank and just meter out the [2:48:11] interest on to pay for additional police [2:48:13] officers that isn't that isn't a part of [2:48:16] the equation anywhere that's not an [2:48:17] allowed fee [2:48:19] hope that answers your question [2:48:21] congratulations [2:48:24] um [2:48:26] inflation drives our costs [2:48:29] there are some costs that are driven by [2:48:32] growth [2:48:34] you heard Frank uh Chief Stevenson talk [2:48:36] about [2:48:38] um officers per thousand and so as the [2:48:41] community grows if you're not growing [2:48:43] your police officers you get you know [2:48:46] you kind of move from 1.2 to 1.1 to one [2:48:49] officer per thousand right [2:48:51] um and so at some point you have to be [2:48:55] able to add officers to have uh to to [2:48:59] bring that ratio up to what is a [2:49:01] recommended best practice [2:49:04] um and and that is simply not being [2:49:06] there's not enough money coming in to do [2:49:08] that [2:49:12] well I'm with the states in assistance [2:49:14] now that we have even more multi-family [2:49:17] in the equation [2:49:19] your outlook has to even be more dismal [2:49:21] then if if you have more multi-family so [2:49:25] this and I will say this the state I [2:49:27] think is less focused on multi-family [2:49:30] they are certainly focused on additional [2:49:33] housing across a broad range of prices [2:49:37] they have a lot of Focus right now on [2:49:39] affordable housing because housing has [2:49:41] become so expensive and you know a young [2:49:45] married couple with basic jobs you you [2:49:49] know School teachers don't make enough [2:49:51] money to buy a house that is being built [2:49:54] today [2:49:56] um and I think as you as you look at [2:49:58] that challenge then you've got to find a [2:50:00] way to either pay everybody more money [2:50:02] or you have to be able to find housing [2:50:05] at lower costs and that gets very much [2:50:07] into the state's push for more [2:50:09] affordable housing that's the work the [2:50:11] council's been doing on the housing [2:50:13] production strategy which is what can we [2:50:15] look at can we go to smaller houses on [2:50:18] smaller lots that would be more [2:50:20] affordable as a way to help even even [2:50:24] mid-level not even we're not even [2:50:25] talking like you know very low income [2:50:28] people but middle income people being [2:50:31] able to acquire housing and move out of [2:50:34] an apartment for example [2:50:36] um from a from a financing perspective [2:50:39] right now developers seem to be able to [2:50:41] make a profit building multiple [2:50:44] multi-family housing that they don't [2:50:46] seem to be able to make building [2:50:49] single-family housing or we would be [2:50:51] seeing more developers coming in doing [2:50:53] single-family housing and a lot of [2:50:54] that's inflation it's supply chain it's [2:50:57] the lack of Labor it's uh interest rate [2:51:00] costs which if you're old enough six and [2:51:03] a half percent yeah okay it's worse than [2:51:05] you know it's worse than two but I've [2:51:07] seen way worse than that [2:51:09] um you know first house I bought I was [2:51:11] happy to get 13 so you know everything [2:51:14] is everything is is coming together in [2:51:17] that discussion [2:51:19] um and there is no easy answer there is [2:51:22] no [2:51:23] push a button there is no you know [2:51:26] God very godmother with a magic wand [2:51:29] coming in saying poof you have money [2:51:31] um I will say that uh I do uh in in some [2:51:36] of the lobbying work I do with [2:51:38] legislators I try to make it perfectly [2:51:40] clear that the local government level we [2:51:43] do not have the money to do basic [2:51:46] Services let alone add on your expanded [2:51:49] asks so that's part of the story that I [2:51:53] think we need to do a better job of [2:51:55] getting to our legislators [2:51:59] sure sorry okay [2:52:02] it was a lot more I'm sorry if you [2:52:05] missed a couple zeros I I have a certain [2:52:07] level of passion about this because the [2:52:09] property tax system has been broken for [2:52:11] years timing you so [2:52:14] okay any other question for these folks [2:52:19] you can escape the Asylum now thank you very much guys [2:52:23] and I'm sure you'll be talking with [2:52:25] Nancy or whomever [2:52:28] okay [2:52:32] so now we're going to move into motions [2:52:36] I would [2:52:38] entertain a motion [2:52:40] are we all [2:52:42] talked out well I was just going to ask [2:52:44] on that you know we have printed well [2:52:47] printed motions for us on paper already [2:52:49] and it says uh on the the first one [2:52:52] under 7B it says uh for operating [2:52:55] towards the end for operating purposes [2:52:57] and 1.6 and some change [2:53:01] um for payments to bond principles and [2:53:03] interest does that is that annotated [2:53:05] somewhere in the can I find that yes uh [2:53:08] you'll find the 1.6 million conversation [2:53:11] on page [2:53:16] 62. yep that's part of the general [2:53:18] obligation bond fund that money goes to [2:53:21] pay for The Debt Service uh for the [2:53:23] construction related to the Justice [2:53:25] Center and the library [2:53:29] just so I don't have to look once that [2:53:32] drop off I know those two of those at a [2:53:34] date 27 I think uh I think it is 20 I'm guessing but I think it's 2028 let [2:53:41] me [2:53:44] people be here [2:53:49] June 2027 is the last payment for the [2:53:52] Geo bond fund one of us well that's it [2:53:57] now so it's just a couple years yeah [2:54:01] I'd like to raise it excuse me I'd like [2:54:03] to raise a question about [2:54:06] funding for the Pioneer Cemetery it's your microphone on no yes it is I'm [2:54:12] sorry let me pull it closer [2:54:15] uh I'd like to ask about the Pioneer [2:54:18] Cemetery fund [2:54:20] um there's not enough money in here to [2:54:22] do anything except mow the lawn [2:54:25] and there's a lot of those Cemetery [2:54:28] stones that have been broken vandalized [2:54:31] and some of them have been moved to [2:54:35] different places [2:54:37] uh I think it's a shame that we don't [2:54:40] take care of that Pioneer Cemetery that [2:54:42] has all of our founding [2:54:45] fathers and mothers that founded this [2:54:49] city [2:54:50] that are buried there and they're not [2:54:52] we're just not even showing any respect [2:54:55] at all and I [2:54:58] ten thousand dollars is not even close [2:55:01] to what is needed [2:55:03] is there any way we can raise that [2:55:08] uh the budget committee can certainly [2:55:11] make a recommendation to uh fund money [2:55:15] out of the general fund that's the only [2:55:18] other place that you can get any [2:55:20] resources all of the other funds are [2:55:22] going to be off the table for that but [2:55:24] the general fund which [2:55:26] by definition is you know everything uh [2:55:30] the budget committee and ultimately the [2:55:32] city council can decide how you want to [2:55:35] allocate that money and you are [2:55:37] certainly welcome to allocate uh either [2:55:40] uh [2:55:43] you either reduce a budget in the [2:55:45] general fund someplace by some amount to [2:55:48] put it into the cemetery or you would uh [2:55:51] make a motion to [2:55:53] take that out of uh general fund ending [2:55:57] fund balance and put it into the [2:56:00] proposed budget you would have to name [2:56:02] the amount where you want to get those [2:56:04] Appropriations I would recommend that [2:56:07] you hang on to that [2:56:10] um I I will tell you the Motions that [2:56:11] are printed here are the required [2:56:13] motions for the budget committee to make [2:56:14] so the budget committee has to recommend [2:56:16] to the city council how much tax rate to [2:56:20] Levy and how much to Levy for Debt [2:56:22] Service that's motion the first motion [2:56:24] under B [2:56:25] the second motion is basically saying [2:56:27] starting with the proposed budget as [2:56:30] it's proposed you recommend moving that [2:56:33] forward and then you take amendments to [2:56:36] that so if you wanted to fund [2:56:39] the Pioneer Cemetery [2:56:42] uh five thousand dollars out of general [2:56:44] fund fund balance for example once the [2:56:47] motion is is uh red and seconded you [2:56:53] would make a motion to amend to include [2:56:55] five thousand dollars general fund money [2:56:58] using fund balance for the Pioneer [2:57:01] Cemetery [2:57:02] and then there would be a vote on that [2:57:03] motion [2:57:05] and any other amendments that would go [2:57:07] through whether you want to add things [2:57:08] or take things out whatever you want to [2:57:10] put in or out then you get to and you [2:57:13] would vote on each Amendment and then [2:57:15] you would get to voting on the final [2:57:17] amended [2:57:19] motion if that makes sense would this be [2:57:22] done now or later it would be done after [2:57:25] that second motion is read and seconded [2:57:28] okay so so first do the first motion to [2:57:31] Levy taxes and the tax rate the 5.1364 [2:57:35] is our maximum tax rate that we can do [2:57:37] the budget is built assuming you do that [2:57:39] again you don't have to Levy the maximum [2:57:43] tax rate you can Levy less than that would change the revenue [2:57:47] projections which would probably also [2:57:49] change expenditure projections you may [2:57:51] not recommend levying more than that but [2:57:54] you're making that recommendation to [2:57:56] city council [2:57:57] if you reduced that Levy rate when it [2:58:00] gets to city council Council can't [2:58:01] increase it so you got to know that [2:58:04] without like republishing the budget and [2:58:05] doing a bunch of other things but [2:58:07] legally this committee can make that [2:58:10] recommendation [2:58:11] you got any idea how much you think I [2:58:13] don't know how much I don't know how [2:58:15] much it would take I have no idea I was [2:58:17] at a seminar this last two weeks ago and [2:58:21] he was talking about [2:58:24] rebuilding a basic [2:58:26] monument that had fallen down one of [2:58:29] these six seven foot high [2:58:31] and it was about several thousand [2:58:34] dollars [2:58:35] to do that but I'm not saying that we [2:58:38] need to do that everything but I think [2:58:39] on a yearly basis we ought to be doing [2:58:41] something [2:58:43] rather than nothing and that's actually [2:58:45] I can speak on this a little bit [2:58:47] um there's there's a couple groups [2:58:49] coming together right now I know about [2:58:51] the Pioneer Cemetery my wife's uh is uh [2:58:54] involved with that I'm supposed to be [2:58:56] part of it but I haven't been able to [2:58:58] make it okay so so I I what I'm what the [2:59:02] way I understand it and correct me if [2:59:04] I'm wrong 7A we already passed that [2:59:06] motion yes so [2:59:08] um we can bring this up in regular [2:59:11] session and approve prove it can't we so [2:59:15] if if the non-dedicated revenue from [2:59:18] revenue sharing goes in general fund can [2:59:20] we appropriate it at a regular session [2:59:23] so uh to be clear what what you have [2:59:28] acted on is to say state revenue sharing [2:59:30] is a general fund non-dedicated Revenue [2:59:32] that is already built into the proposed [2:59:35] budget okay so when we're talking about [2:59:37] the cemetery and appropriating money [2:59:40] you are talking about creating an [2:59:42] appropriation that in the proposed [2:59:44] budget does not exist and you don't you don't have to say what the revenue [2:59:49] source is you have to say you're either [2:59:52] taking the Appropriations from something [2:59:54] else [2:59:55] and I'm going to pick on Kelly so we're [2:59:57] going to reduce the planning budget by [2:59:59] ten thousand dollars and put ten [3:00:01] thousand dollars into the Pioneer [3:00:02] Cemetery [3:00:04] because I love you [3:00:06] um or [3:00:08] if you don't want to reduce that from [3:00:11] some place that is in the budget you [3:00:13] reduce it from the ending unappropriated [3:00:15] fund balance so where we currently say [3:00:18] the ending fund balance is one point is [3:00:21] I don't even have the number right in [3:00:22] front of me as like [3:00:24] uh one and a half million dollars if you [3:00:27] wanted to to put ten thousand dollars to [3:00:29] the cemetery we would go to 1.49 million [3:00:32] dollars of ending unappropriated fund [3:00:34] balance with that ten thousand dollars [3:00:36] going to the Pioneer Cemetery to do work [3:00:40] um I I will note from staff's [3:00:42] perspective we've been [3:00:44] um we've provided information to the the [3:00:47] volunteer group that's working on the [3:00:49] cemetery stuff there are state grants [3:00:51] that we can get but to apply for those [3:00:53] grants we have to be able to say what [3:00:55] we're going to do who's going to do it [3:00:57] how much it's going to cost and what is [3:00:59] our matching and that matching can [3:01:00] include in-kind services but without an [3:01:03] organized group coming in saying we will [3:01:06] donate a hundred hours of in-kind [3:01:08] services which we can then quantify for [3:01:11] purposes of Grant and get a match we [3:01:14] have not been able to apply for any of [3:01:16] those grants there are some that are [3:01:17] historic preservation for cemeteries [3:01:18] some that could do Parks some some [3:01:20] additional work but we're really looking [3:01:22] for what the plan is that is being put [3:01:26] forward and and we don't we have nobody [3:01:29] on staff who's like a historical [3:01:31] headstone expert [3:01:34] um who knows what would be necessary to [3:01:36] restore them [3:01:38] um the the work that we do there is hand [3:01:41] mowing [3:01:42] um it's got to be hand weeding we can't [3:01:44] put out pesticides we don't irrigate it [3:01:47] because we uh know that there are [3:01:50] burials where there are no headstones [3:01:53] and we don't wish to disturb the Earth [3:01:56] where that occurs so we've been kind of [3:02:00] stuck without a group that has said [3:02:01] here's what we're going to do here's the [3:02:03] plan we wish to initiate to know what if anything could be done so that's [3:02:09] what we've been waiting for us to have [3:02:11] that appropriation be made any time by [3:02:14] US during the course after the if you're [3:02:16] taking it from the general fund can't we [3:02:17] do that at any time so once the budget [3:02:20] is adopted in June [3:02:23] the only way that you would be able to [3:02:25] create that appropriation would be to [3:02:26] use general fund contingencies and [3:02:28] transfer them to for example [3:02:29] non-departmental to make a grant to a [3:02:31] group to put that together that would [3:02:34] still exist that and frankly that exists [3:02:36] today [3:02:37] you could ask to have that brought [3:02:39] forward on the June agenda if there was [3:02:41] going to be a June 2023 expenditure [3:02:44] before the new fiscal year but again [3:02:46] it's what's the plan and what's being [3:02:48] asked for and I have uh I've had nobody [3:02:51] come in saying [3:02:53] I need XD dollars this is what I would [3:02:55] do with it so I think this is part of [3:02:57] our history it's something that we're [3:02:59] just kind of shooting in the dark here I [3:03:01] think some of the other funds that are [3:03:02] in here though have are are based on [3:03:05] like donations that those groups receive [3:03:08] like I look at the police special [3:03:09] Revenue fund which is right next to the [3:03:11] Pioneer Cemetery fund the library [3:03:13] special Revenue fund the senior services [3:03:15] special Revenue fund and these all [3:03:17] receive donations to help fund those [3:03:19] special projects at the senior center at [3:03:21] the library you know Shop with a cop etc I is there are we the is there not a [3:03:28] group that does this for the Pioneer [3:03:31] Cemetery it's in the formation yeah it's in the works right now they're [3:03:35] starting to come together [3:03:37] um there's a couple personalities that [3:03:39] reached out to to my wife and started [3:03:42] talking so I think that's the piece [3:03:44] we're missing yeah yeah they're bringing [3:03:47] it together right now I I would submit [3:03:49] that that at this point we'd probably [3:03:51] leave it alone let that group come [3:03:54] together formulate a plan and and move [3:03:57] on that way because I share your [3:03:59] sentiment that that it's a you go down [3:04:01] here it's just like really [3:04:02] but but at this point I think we need to [3:04:06] let the let the uh that that group come [3:04:08] together do uh fundraising and uh uh re [3:04:13] try to receive donations that kind of [3:04:15] stuff and then actually come up with a a [3:04:17] really uh good plan to to address [3:04:20] because we've looked at [3:04:22] um we've talked about fencing around it [3:04:24] um improving Trails lighting cameras [3:04:28] um there's there's veterans there from [3:04:31] Civil War Spanish-American war and uh [3:04:34] war of 1812. there's not many cemeteries [3:04:36] that have those unless you go to [3:04:38] Arlington so [3:04:40] um you know maybe a flagpole but that's [3:04:42] still all uh Pie in the Sky type things [3:04:45] right now so [3:04:46] um I would submit that that maybe we [3:04:49] hold on with the current budget just for [3:04:51] maintenance let that group come together [3:04:53] get uh get organized and uh maybe [3:04:57] revisit it next year I agree so yep [3:05:02] so I take it we're on to these motions [3:05:05] I'd like to still waiting for a motion [3:05:07] I'd like to make a motion there you go I [3:05:10] move to recommend the city of Lebanon [3:05:12] City Council Levy the permanent property [3:05:14] tax rate of 5.1364 per one thousand [3:05:16] dollars of assessed value for operating [3:05:18] purposes and 1 666 one million six [3:05:23] hundred sixty six thousand one hundred [3:05:24] twenty four dollars for payment of bond [3:05:27] principal and interest [3:05:29] we have a motion do we have a second we have a second all those in [3:05:34] favor [3:05:35] aye aye aye all those opposed [3:05:37] okay we would uh entertain a second [3:05:42] motion before you do if I might [3:05:46] um so we we discussed that certainly [3:05:48] things kind of went through the process [3:05:49] a little last minute so what you have in [3:05:52] front of you is actually that motion on [3:05:55] the screen uh this is what you're [3:05:57] delivered on Friday [3:05:59] um so [3:06:00] either way what was added was some [3:06:02] contingencies in our utility funds [3:06:05] um at the last minute and so this is the [3:06:08] updated budget based on what you had in [3:06:10] your documents delivered to you last [3:06:12] week [3:06:14] well I'd like to make a motion [3:06:16] I moved to approve the fiscal year 2023 [3:06:18] 2024 budget in the amount of 85 million [3:06:21] three hundred twelve thousand five [3:06:22] hundred eighty eight dollars [3:06:24] as proposed by the city's budget officer [3:06:27] recommended [3:06:28] and recommend the city of Lebanon City [3:06:30] Council adopt the fiscal year budget [3:06:33] it's been moved uh second seconded all [3:06:37] those in favor [3:06:39] aye aye aye all those opposed [3:06:42] okay [3:06:44] um we um we're gonna look for one more [3:06:46] motion you got one more yeah [3:06:48] is this emotion or is this an amendment [3:06:50] to the previous motion this would just [3:06:52] be a motion because you're not changing [3:06:54] the budget amount okay everybody listen [3:06:56] carefully because I don't know if I got [3:06:57] this right [3:06:59] um I'd like to make a motion to direct [3:07:01] staff to work with LDA to create a [3:07:04] quarterly payment plan based on [3:07:06] adherence to state and federal financial [3:07:08] laws to fund the Main Street manager [3:07:11] position with thirty thousand dollars of [3:07:13] City provided funds [3:07:16] second thank you been moved and seconded [3:07:19] any discussion [3:07:22] all those in favor [3:07:23] aye aye aye opposed [3:07:26] motion passes [3:07:28] and with that I'm going to [3:07:31] close that hearing good job with the [3:07:35] gavel [3:07:36] a damn near broke used to it left-handed [3:07:39] and I'm going to take a 10 minute break [3:07:43] before we power through the rest of it [3:07:46] thank you [3:15:28] foreign [3:15:31] let's all start talking again [3:15:35] okay we're going to adjourn as the city [3:15:38] uh city of Lebanon budget committee and [3:15:41] reconvene as the urban renewal agency [3:15:43] budget committee [3:15:45] we just did [3:15:47] so first one FY 2023 2024 Lebanon urban [3:15:53] renewal agency budget presentation that [3:15:57] will be by Nancy and Brandon and and I'm [3:16:00] going to sum up for you because this is [3:16:02] pretty straightforward we do have five [3:16:04] urban renewal districts the budget is uh [3:16:07] included here in total we are talking [3:16:11] about a total requirements including [3:16:14] appropriated contingencies and [3:16:16] unappropriated ending balances of 5.5 [3:16:18] million dollars most of that is budgeted [3:16:21] for Debt Service we do have a a piece [3:16:25] that is budgeted for capital outlay in [3:16:27] case basically in case we get an [3:16:29] opportunity to address some of the [3:16:32] projects remaining in an urban renewal [3:16:34] District these tend to be spurred by a [3:16:37] need you know raised by a private [3:16:39] developer to do something so we don't [3:16:42] have a lot here [3:16:44] um pretty straightforward but because we [3:16:46] have the five districts you do have to [3:16:48] go in and out of public hearings have a [3:16:50] motion I'm going to note for the record [3:16:53] uh the only people remaining in the room [3:16:55] are staff and none of them intend to [3:16:57] testify [3:16:58] on any of the urban renewal districts so [3:17:01] I don't think we need to call for public [3:17:04] comment and wait uh I think we can just [3:17:07] move forward but uh Brandon and I would [3:17:10] answer any questions you might have [3:17:14] I have one [3:17:16] um Nancy mentioned the Northwest urban [3:17:19] renewal tax will [3:17:21] um that only has a few more years I [3:17:24] can't remember [3:17:25] so we have Debt Service for the [3:17:27] Northwest urban renewal District that [3:17:28] lasts until 2032. [3:17:31] that is 10 more years okay okay 10 more [3:17:34] years and then that money that 959 [3:17:37] 000 or probably even more in 10 years [3:17:39] will go into the general fund well it is [3:17:43] returned to all of the taxing districts [3:17:45] so City fire district school district [3:17:48] right so we'll get it we'll get a large [3:17:49] cut we'll get a large cut of that more [3:17:51] than 300 000 a year in Revenue [3:17:54] that's all that was my only question [3:17:59] okay and I will ask for public comment [3:18:02] just to keep us legal [3:18:05] okay so [3:18:08] um I'm gonna open the uh proposed urban [3:18:12] renewal District taxes [3:18:16] any public comment [3:18:19] seeing none I would entertain a motion [3:18:24] I move to recommend the urban renewal [3:18:26] agency approved the Northwest Lebanon [3:18:28] urban renewal District taxes for fiscal [3:18:30] year 23-24 at the tax increment value of [3:18:34] 959 488 seconds I have a motion in a [3:18:39] second all those of all those in favor [3:18:43] opposed I will close that most that [3:18:47] ring [3:18:49] and then we're going to open the cheetah [3:18:52] Lake urd [3:18:53] uh hearing any public no next do I have [3:18:59] a motion I move to recommend the urban [3:19:00] neural agency approved the cheetah Lake [3:19:02] ERD taxes for fiscal year 2324 at the [3:19:05] rate of 100 of the amount from the [3:19:07] division of tax I have motion do I have [3:19:10] a second second I have a second [3:19:13] all those in favor [3:19:15] aye aye opposed [3:19:17] closed open the Northwest Gateway urd [3:19:24] do you have any public comment nope next [3:19:27] I'll take a motion [3:19:31] third one [3:19:32] it's your turn I move to recommend the [3:19:34] urban renewal agency approved the North [3:19:36] Gateway urban renewal District taxes for [3:19:39] federal year 2324 at the rate of 100 of [3:19:42] the amount from the division of tax so I [3:19:45] have a motion do I have second second [3:19:47] all those in favor say aye aye opposed [3:19:52] closed we're going to open the hearing [3:19:56] for the downtown urd any public comment [3:20:00] nothing I'll accept a motion [3:20:04] a movie recommend the urban rural agency [3:20:06] approve the downtown ERD taxes for [3:20:08] fiscal year 23 24 at the rate of 100 of [3:20:12] the amount from the division of tax [3:20:15] I have a motion and it's seconded [3:20:18] all those in favor [3:20:19] aye aye all those opposed [3:20:22] closed [3:20:24] I'll open the Mill Race urd hearing [3:20:29] do I have a motion [3:20:31] a move to recommend the urban renewal [3:20:33] agency approved the Mill Race urd taxes [3:20:36] for fiscal year 2023-24 at the rate of [3:20:38] 100 of the amount from the division of [3:20:41] tax second [3:20:42] moved and seconded all those in favor [3:20:45] aye aye aye opposed [3:20:47] we will close that one [3:20:52] and we're going to go to the [3:20:56] proposed urban renewal budget I'm [3:20:59] looking for a motion [3:21:02] iMovie approved the urban renewal agency [3:21:04] fiscal year 2324 budget in the sum of 4 [3:21:07] million seven hundred twenty thousand [3:21:09] eight hundred and eighty eight dollars [3:21:10] as proposed by the agency's budget [3:21:12] officer do I have a second second second [3:21:15] all those in favor [3:21:18] aye aye all those opposed [3:21:20] it passes and I'm going to adjourn the [3:21:23] urban renewal agency budget committee [3:21:26] and reconvene as the city of Lebanon [3:21:28] budget committee [3:21:30] we're going to go to [3:21:32] committee comments anything [3:21:36] I will [3:21:38] um I this is my tenth one of these for [3:21:40] the city of Lebanon [3:21:42] fifth one that somehow I ended up as the [3:21:44] chairman [3:21:47] see if we can do it again for you next [3:21:48] year [3:21:49] I will kill you [3:21:51] um I just want to say of all the budgets [3:21:53] that I've had to read starting with way [3:21:56] back when when [3:21:58] um [3:21:58] John hit was the the manager and it was [3:22:01] like playing Tetris it was with your [3:22:05] eyes closed [3:22:07] and it was you couldn't figure out who [3:22:10] hit John and there was fund transfers [3:22:13] for the darndest things and everything [3:22:15] was all over the map [3:22:17] this this [3:22:18] was I I sat down for a whole day to read [3:22:22] this thing and it took me an hour and a [3:22:23] half [3:22:24] and I understood it then I sat down and [3:22:27] read it again it took me an hour and I [3:22:29] understood it so kudos for putting [3:22:32] together something that makes a lot more [3:22:35] sense and it's more user friendly and I [3:22:38] hope that Trend continues [3:22:40] and it's just such a pleasure after the [3:22:43] ones we used to do to have this just yay [3:22:47] I concur I'm glad I have that fourth [3:22:49] grade education you were talking [3:22:51] about and I would thank you and I would [3:22:53] say Brandon and I both have [3:22:55] additional improvements coming [3:22:58] well you are a banker so fourth grade [3:23:00] it's all you need [3:23:03] yes I apologize for that [3:23:07] we were changing things at the very last [3:23:08] minute clearly as we saw it up on the board for [3:23:12] the Amendments yeah [3:23:15] um next budget meeting [3:23:18] we don't need it we don't need that this [3:23:20] will go to the City Council next in June [3:23:22] right June 14th June 14th [3:23:25] are there any other comments [3:23:29] we're