[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] Michael Holmes, Randy Randolph, Shirley Tarwater, here, Randy Wall, here, David Wheeler. Here. We do have a quorum. [0:18] So, on the F, I have a request for a reply, a file, one, two, one lot, two lots, okay, hardwood, Lynn, that's needs to be taken off the agenda, amend the agenda for removal of requests for a reply, [0:35] a final flat from one lot to two lots located, [0:38] Harwood and Lynn. [0:40] I'll need a first and second. [0:42] I'll make the motion to amend the agenda. [0:45] Second. [0:50] Elmore. [0:51] Yes. [0:53] Holmes. [0:54] Yes. [0:55] Tower water. [0:55] Yes. [0:56] Wall. [0:57] Yes. [0:59] Wheeler. [0:59] Yes. [1:00] Birchage. [1:01] Yes. [1:03] Okay. [1:05] So I need an approval of the minutes [1:06] For the July 16th regular meeting, [1:12] make a motion to approve the minutes. [1:15] Second. [1:19] Cones. [1:20] Yes. [1:21] Tower water. [1:22] Yes. [1:22] Wall. [1:23] Yes. [1:24] Wheeler. [1:25] Yes. [1:26] Burkage. [1:26] Yes. [1:27] Elmore. [1:28] Yes. [1:30] And I have another approval minutes for the July 16th meeting of a closed session meeting. [1:34] You have that in front of you, I believe. [1:37] Also. [1:38] I [1:40] need to first and second on it also. [1:43] Thank you motion to approve. [1:46] Second. [1:51] Tower water. [1:53] Yes. [1:54] Wall. [1:55] Yes. [1:55] Wheeler. [1:56] Yes. [1:57] Burkets. [1:58] Yes. [1:59] Elmore. [1:59] Yes. [2:00] Holmes. [2:01] Yes. [2:02] Okay. [2:03] The motion to go in public hearing. [2:07] Thank you motion to go in public hearing. [2:10] Second. [2:15] Wall. [2:16] Yes. [2:17] Wheeler. [2:17] Yes. [2:18] Burkets. [2:19] Yes. [2:20] Elmore. [2:21] Yes. [2:21] Holmes. [2:22] Yes. [2:23] Char water. [2:24] Yes. [2:25] Okay. [2:26] First item tonight is the request for a final flat of a replat from seven lots to one lot located [2:32] 517 Murphy Road. [2:35] Kim, I'll let you explain this one. [2:37] So this is a request, like you said, the owner wants to replat to be able to build a two-story [2:44] Rehabilitation, halfway house for women and their children to help them get back into independent living. [2:51] The owner will work with code administration on the construction of the building when we get the civil drawings. [2:58] And then on the road, Murphy Road, if you look at your plat, [3:05] the city will construct the road to the Hues Center parking lot for additional access. [3:17] And then the owners here, if you have any additional questions. [3:19] Oh, [3:25] and I'm a plat, the first one, the one that's red line. [3:28] So since the city owns that track, the second plat has the signature for the city to sign off on. [3:36] So that's why you have the plat with the red line, and then you have the plat with the signature on it. [3:49] Anyone here to speak for against the item? [3:56] Would you like to speak on this? [3:59] Are you the- [4:01] Okay. [4:05] You'll state your name and your address. [4:33] Please forgive me for handing you something that I've drawn by hand. [4:37] The architect still is working on everything. [4:41] If you look at the first page, Solomon's porch ministries, [4:45] where those words are, is where the Hugh Senior Center is. [4:49] And this was my first drawing. [4:52] the building will be 140 feet by 80 feet. [4:56] There will be two entrances, a main entrance on the left, [5:00] a side entrance with a garage door for donations, [5:03] and a small person's entrance. [5:07] There is an existing gravel road, [5:11] it's called Murphy Road there, [5:12] and at some point I will ask you for a basement to allow traffic [5:16] to come in from gas canade, [5:18] but that's the only thing that's not drawn to scale. [5:20] So [5:24] that's how the building will lay out a lot of parking lot. [5:32] Commission having page two. [5:34] And you put where it says 80 feet to your right. [5:39] That will be where the Murphy Road comes in. [5:43] So in this orientation. [5:47] And the first phase one will be to put up a two-story metal building. [5:52] and then in the building we will put workshop a store and a donations area with a hot [6:02] room so that any donations that come in will be subjected to 140 degrees for 24 hours [6:08] to root bed bugs and in the workshop we're going to be making products to sell to help [6:16] support the ministry and one thing that we're doing that no one else is doing will be finishing [6:20] furniture and we are pull-stream furniture. That's a skill that I think the ladies can learn. [6:30] The page three is a floor plan that you may be familiar with. It's a friendly house in our [6:39] in our city right now. I don't want to say the name. If you put the words that says exit on the side, [6:46] then that's where the front entrance will be on the main map. So the front entrance is over here, [6:53] and then these two doors, one will go to the store and one will go to the workshop. [6:59] And we are reusing this floor plan, which is why it's architect-grown. [7:05] With a couple of modifications, each bedroom, family bedroom will have access [7:11] to their own private bathroom by moving the door. [7:15] The kitchen will be a commercial kitchen and in this very center [7:20] it will have a stairwell for the future access to the second floor. [7:25] So then the second phase will be adding the bedroom section as we get the money. [7:31] The first phase will cost 300,000, the second phase will cost 1.2 million, and then the [7:36] third phase will be an addition of a second floor that will allow us to put 15 more families [7:43] in there. [7:44] the bottom floor will have housing administration and six families, and then the second floor will accommodate 15 more families. [7:55] Since we're serving a five county area, we will probably stay full a lot of time. [8:09] And Kim reminded me that I'll probably need a sprinkler system for the second floor, so that will be in the drawings and in the plans also. [8:19] And we're debating whether or not to put an elevator to the second floor at least to move furniture and people. [8:28] But I may try to get away without it because you see on this floor planted out a room that's a handicap access. [8:41] There shouldn't be anything on the second floor that they couldn't do on the first. [8:47] Questions for the Commission for? [8:50] How many total parking spots are there in? [8:56] However many you say I need, I've just drawn a suggestion of what's there, but just we [9:03] will have events and lots of volunteers, whatever those concrete areas will support. [9:16] Remind me, Kim, will the final drawing, when she gets the drawing done, will it come back [9:20] in front of us again? [9:22] No, definitely. [9:23] It's just so you have that idea of what we're doing. [9:25] Okay. [9:26] But we've changed my model. [9:27] It's already zone for this. [9:28] Is it now? [9:31] Well, it'll need a conditionally used. [9:33] That's what we're doing next right after this. [9:37] Because it's an RS2. [9:40] Okay. [9:43] And so we don't know how, at this point, [9:47] how the road is going to go from point A to point B yet. [9:50] So how to be later? [9:51] That'll be later. [9:52] So I appreciate you're willing to dedicate the right away [9:55] back to the city on property. One of the things that we try to do is we've got an access issue in the Gaskinade Park. [10:03] So this project really gives us an opportunity to increase access, accessibility to parts of Gaskinade Park and as well as the Hew Center. [10:12] So we've pulled in, but I think we've got about 50,000 in this year's budget for design. [10:19] and then so and Richard Chalkley our Director of Public Works is already kind of on it because he's this came through his dry and then well the plan would be that we would construct it using city [10:30] Croons in the fiscal year 28 or next year so hopefully along with her timeline it also will help us deal with some of her utility she mentions the easement [10:40] And most of our utility is just over on gasket 8. [10:44] So we got to, we think this might get us a way to get some improved connections on Murphy [10:49] create a loop and deal with her utility access issues as well, so that's part of the secondary [10:54] phase. [10:56] And we'll make sure that she has the required parking spaces when we see those civil [11:01] drawings. [11:04] On the first page, there's an area that you've labeled as being gravel. [11:10] I will make an area that will be concrete and be graveled for parking containers so that [11:17] any furniture that we save for our residents use when they move out will go right there [11:22] so it doesn't, you won't have any traffic on it. [11:28] That be fenced. [11:29] Martin, will that be fenced? [11:32] Yes. [11:33] There will be a fence where the containers go and then by the back corner where it says [11:41] 25 feet, there will be a play area there that right beside the workshop so the parents can see the kids and they'll have a volunteer with them, but they'll be right there. [11:51] So yes, it would be six foot with part of where at the top and chain lane. [12:04] Good. Any other questions in the commission for? [12:09] Okay, thank you. [12:14] Okay, the next item is a request for conditional use for a hallway real halfway hallway halfway. [12:25] So this is the conditional use for her to be able to construct the building in this location. [12:31] It requires the conditional use per chapter 4831. [12:38] And that's it. [12:39] We got the GIS map in there and she showed you everything else. [12:44] Any [13:03] questions from the commission? [13:15] So Murphy will go into the parking lot of gas canade. [13:21] Is that okay? [13:23] The kind of dead ends already now, so we're just going to kind of dead end there. [13:27] Okay, that makes sense. [13:35] Anything else in the commission in this one? [13:37] Did you ask for public comment? [13:39] I didn't on this one, I'm sorry. [13:42] I told you it's been a long day. [13:44] Is there anyone here to speak for against this item? [13:49] Do you have anything else for us? [13:56] Okay. [13:56] Moving on. [13:57] Request for a conditional use for a short-term rental located 730 tower road. [14:06] The owner is wanting to turn this into a short-term rental. [14:10] She has had the pre-inspection done. [14:13] She has the two parking spaces, the two exits, single levels of front and the back. [14:19] And then she's more than 1,000 feet away from any school or daycare. [14:25] And she is here if you have any questions. [14:29] Okay. [14:29] And there's a GIS map and a picture of the property in your book. [14:37] Anyone here to speak for gets this item. [14:44] Okay. [14:47] If you'll say your name and your address for us. [14:50] Yeah, address that we're talking about. [14:52] Your address. [14:53] Your home address. [14:54] Okay. My name is Addison Maynard. I live. [15:07] I previously lived at this property for five years. We just recently got it in our name. My [15:16] husband and I in the last few months. We bought it off of my parents so it was an owner [15:23] finance before that's how I was living it for the last five years. We want to turn it into [15:30] the short-term rental to better monitor the situation as opposed to having a long-term [15:37] rental in there because our plans are we would love to move back one day like this is this is our [15:45] home. So I already have someone to mow lined up he's been mowing since we've not been there and then [15:55] And we actually had a couple people here that were curious about it and they went and got a hamburger instead. [16:01] So they are okay with it. [16:05] I do have some experience managing some Airbnb's. [16:08] My mom did have some in Lebanon. [16:11] She had three properties that I got to manage for a short time about two years. [16:16] So I do have a little bit of experience there to [16:23] have any questions for me. [16:26] Any questions from the commission? [16:27] You're [16:30] going to use Airbnb, or VRBO, or... [16:34] I am going to use Airbnb. [16:37] I'm not sure about VRBO yet. [16:40] I like their vetting system. [16:42] And I believe in them more than me just doing it on my own. [16:46] Okay, so it's my understanding the vetting that they do is [16:50] do they leave the place nice when they leave and do they pay? [16:54] They're not doing any background checks to my knowledge. [16:57] Do you know? [17:00] So they don't go that far, however we, like we mentioned, I'm not anywhere close to any schools or [17:09] daycares. So that's less of a worry. [17:26] Any other questions for her? [17:30] Okay. Thank you. [17:38] Okay, next time [17:39] is request for a rezone for 777 Bry Street from RS2 residential to RS1 residential. [17:47] So this is a rezone of the Revenant High School. The new properties that they had purchased [17:53] are RS2 and a majority, well all of the school basically sits on RS1, so we're going to rezone [18:01] it to RS1 to kind of clean all that up. And then you have your GIS map and the zoning [18:08] map in there. [18:13] Anyone here to speak for against this item? [18:31] Okay. Next time is a request for a final [18:32] flat from Lebanon acreage to Yellowjacket acreage from four lots to one lot located 777 [18:39] Brystery. So this is a reply from four lots to one to combine everything. So when you look at the [18:52] The plan, they have on here that jacket junction is vacated. [18:58] We are not going to vacate that at this time. [19:01] We're going to keep that a city street. [19:04] It does not show it on the plan, but if you decide to pass this contingent on, [19:11] it being changed on the plan to show that vacate off of there and still a city street. [19:17] So then since they took that off so it should be three lots to one lot than right because I think they're counting that the kind of as a separate lot. [19:27] Yeah, so it'll go to clean that one a little bit. [19:52] Any other questions, comments? [20:01] Okay, and the last one is a request for a final plot from 11 acreage to 12 as the states located around 2800 ostrich drive. [20:11] So, this is a final plot. [20:15] You guys approved the preliminary plot at the July 16 planning zoning meeting. [20:21] Code section requires it to be properly platted for any new construction for the owner to [20:28] build 30 single-family new homes. [20:35] And then there was a comment at the last meeting about a couple of the lot sizes. [20:41] So the owner is going to make sure that any house that is constructed will not be, will not encroach on any utility easement. [20:50] He will do the minimum size on those lots. [20:59] Anyone here to speak for against this item? [21:04] Okay. [21:10] You could state your name in your address. [21:12] I may still allow you to wait one, three hours just right. [21:17] My concern on this plan, I'm not getting the plan at all. [21:22] I know these people very well, good friends, but I'm concerned with the water retention that they're planning for. [21:34] I take the water from that already, and I think the picture is that no pictures? [21:41] Yeah, that's your picture, is that you brought it? [21:44] Yeah. Okay. We take the water from this to begin with now and I can handle that on. I just [21:52] no big deal. I've got that all branched over where it takes the water but when we put in more [22:02] rough tops and more paved streets we're going to get more water coming down through there and I just [22:11] need to know what the water retention is going to be for this building that they're building. [22:19] They have to hold the water to keep it coming in much. [22:26] The owner is here to speak on the detention. [22:33] I have a civil engineer. [22:36] His brain guilt is going to be heavily watered attention. It should be handled better now [22:40] Now, after we do it, then it is currently, [22:42] I wasn't aware of any current potential problems, [22:45] but after we put in drainage and build a ditch [22:48] and the tension area, then it should be better [22:51] than it is currently, so it should only improve. [22:54] You should get less water. [22:56] So we're gonna put drainage in through all the sewer system [23:00] and it's gonna end up in a detention area [23:02] that we're going to build to hold the water. [23:04] Okay. [23:04] So I'm not sure what current we are. [23:07] You'll see less water now. [23:08] We're right down below. He's across the street. Okay. Yeah, so our attention is going to be right right past the housing and then we'll build another street. We'll move this in a second time, but we will be trying all of the water coming off those streets into the detention area that will be built up. [23:26] So the water is going to come in here and it's going to come out here, but we're going to build a large temporary detention area here and then if we build a second street, we'll move down once again. So we're only building on this first eight acres here and you know the whole problem he goes to here. [23:39] right and so we're going to be controlling that we'll build a berm here and [23:43] control that water into this area so that you'll be potentially I would soon [23:47] see the last water towards your property number because that is a good yeah yeah [23:52] you understand what I'm saying yeah yeah sure yeah if you have more questions [23:56] after me and you have a number okay let's guess it that's all I've worked with [24:01] come forward when you built the boat factory. [24:05] We've got a long way to go. [24:06] Yeah, we've got a long way to go. [24:08] We've got a long way to go. [24:09] That's about all I have on that. [24:14] I do have a concern, which is not on this, [24:19] on the boat factory of those. [24:24] When Carl built that years ago, [24:27] he spread the water out so it came out easy [24:30] a lot wide area but now they're the ones that I want to now are bringing it into one place and it's [24:38] colored in big wars down because I'm not placed now from them which I understand this is not [24:46] not anything to do with that but it's some other job I yield to look at at some time which [24:56] We can look into it for you. [24:58] Okay. [24:59] Be good. [24:59] Okay. [25:00] Get it all. [25:02] Thank you. [25:04] Thank you. [25:04] It's the way this is supposed to work. [25:06] Yeah. [25:11] When my entire life. [25:16] Okay. [25:18] Any questions on that one. [25:23] In discussion. [25:26] Okay. [25:26] Okay, [25:29] I need a commission action for a living public hearing. [25:37] Second. [25:43] Yes. [25:44] Yes. [25:46] Yes. [25:47] Yes. [25:48] Yes. [25:49] Yes. [25:50] Yes. [25:50] Yes. [25:51] Yes. [25:54] Okay. [25:55] First item is a commission action on request for a final flat of a replat from seven lots to one [26:01] lot located at 517 Murphy Road. Motion to approve. Second. Any discussion? [26:13] Wheeler? Yes. [26:15] Burkage? Yes. Almore? Yes. Holmes? Yes. [26:20] Tarwater? Yes. Wall? Yes. Put [26:28] all of this. [26:32] Second is a commission action on request for [26:34] conditional use for halfway house located at 517 Murphy Road. [26:39] Thank [26:41] you motion to approve. [26:43] Excuse me. [26:44] Second. [26:46] Any discussion? [26:51] Okay. [26:51] Colt vote. [26:53] Perkage. [26:54] Yes. [26:54] Elmore. [26:55] Yes. [26:56] Holmes. [26:57] Yes. [26:58] Tower water. [26:59] Yes. [27:00] Wall. [27:00] Yes. [27:01] Wheeler. [27:01] Yes. [27:04] Next time it's a commission action on a request for conditional use for a short term rental located 730 tower road. [27:11] Any discussion? [27:19] I'm sorry, I'll make a motion. [27:21] Go ahead of myself. [27:23] Second. [27:26] Any discussion now? [27:29] Okay, now we've got the vote. [27:31] Almar. [27:32] Yes. [27:33] Homes. [27:34] Yes. [27:35] Tirewater. [27:36] Yes. [27:38] Wall. [27:39] Yes. [27:40] Weaver. [27:41] Yes. [27:42] Burkage. [27:43] Yes. [27:48] Okay. [27:48] Next. [27:48] Next is a commission action on a request for a rezone of 77 bright street from RS2 residential to RS1 residential. [27:58] I'll make the motion. [28:02] Second. [28:04] No. [28:05] Discussion? [28:08] Okay. [28:09] Call for vote. [28:12] Homes? [28:13] Yes. [28:15] Tower water? [28:16] Yes. [28:17] Wall? [28:17] Yes. [28:18] Wheeler? [28:19] Yes. [28:20] Burkage? [28:20] Yes. [28:21] Elmore? [28:22] Yes. [28:22] Next one is commission axon request for a found flat from Levin acreage to Yellowjacket acreage from four lots to one lot located 777 Bryce Street. [28:34] I'll make a motion to go from three lots to one lot with the contingents that the plat shows jacket junction as a city street and it will continue to stay. [28:49] Okay. [28:52] I'll second. [28:55] Any discussion, in commission? [29:00] Okay. [29:00] Call the vote. [29:04] Tower water? [29:05] Yes. [29:06] Wall? [29:07] Yes. [29:08] Wheeler? [29:08] Yes. [29:09] Birkage? [29:10] Yes. [29:11] Elmore? [29:12] Yes. [29:13] Homes? [29:13] Yes. [29:15] Okay. [29:16] Commission action on a request for a file flat from Levin Ackridge to tall resist states located around [29:23] 20800 ostrich drive. [29:25] Motion to approve. [29:30] Second. [29:31] Okay. Any discussion? [29:34] So on the storm water, Richard's going to approve the storm water before we start construction. [29:41] Yes. [29:42] Okay. [29:42] Actually, it's supposed to be done like Monday or Tuesday with the civil engineering side of it. [29:48] Then is it possible to do some temporary storm water detention to help everyone downstream while construction is going on? [29:57] on there. Yeah, you can see where it's coming. [30:00] From the bottom of the, right, the drawing there. Yeah. Once it comes up the other side, we're going to build a berm there. Okay. And get it back because it slopes that direction. Anyway, like I'm going to say with him, we're planning on him seeing last one or not. Okay. So that temporary detention will be there because it will be easier for the excavator to do that. And then if we end up building a second street in the future, which we plan on doing that, we'll get moved down to the possibility of expanding four streets, you know, over the next 10, 15 years. And at which point we would build a permanent detention. Okay. [30:29] Yes. [30:29] But we will build a detention area, so it's going to be on the subject. [30:32] You'll give that. [30:34] Okay. [30:37] Any other discussion? [30:46] Call the food. [30:47] Wheeler. [30:48] Yes. [30:49] Birkage. [30:49] Yes. [30:50] Elmore. [30:51] Yes. [30:51] Holmes. [30:52] Yes. [30:53] Tarwater. [30:54] Yes. [30:55] Well. [30:55] Yes. [30:57] Okay. [30:59] Commission staff discussion. [31:00] On jacket junction. [31:02] When they update that plan, if you would like, I can send you all a copy of it. [31:09] showing that it was updated. Absolutely. Okay. I had a phone call from someone on [31:17] Lee Street asking about a property that we approved. Gosh, maybe last year you [31:23] before. [31:25] You know the address. I don't remember. It's about the 200 block of [31:30] Lee's like that. There's no house. There was no housing on that side. The actual [31:36] How is there connecting two outs into one basically if I remember correctly and was a cornealson address [31:44] There's something being built in the backyard and it's really close to Lee Street [31:49] But there's not gonna be access to Lee Street [31:51] Okay, I'll look into it and see what's going on. I wasn't aware of yeah [31:55] I have a picture also if you'd like to see the picture after yeah, yeah, so it's framed up and on a foundation and [32:04] Okay, yeah, I will check into that [32:06] Yeah, yeah, it was supposed to be like a community garden or something. [32:11] Do you remember that? [32:12] Oh, it may have been when you were still. [32:14] Yeah. [32:15] There's a they put a two lot in the back lot together. [32:19] Yeah. [32:20] And they was going to build a little. [32:21] A big house shop. [32:23] I know. [32:24] Accessory strike. [32:25] I think we remember it. [32:26] Yeah. [32:27] It's pretty good size. [32:28] It's I don't know how big messages. [32:30] 150 Cornell. [32:31] I know what you're talking about. [32:34] and I think it is her great house. [32:36] I just told him I would pass it along. [32:37] Yeah. [32:38] Yeah. [32:39] I will double check on that, though. [32:41] Yeah, that's been three or four years ago. [32:43] Yeah, that was a little. [32:44] Yeah. [32:45] Yeah. [32:45] For sure. [32:47] But it's somewhere around here. [32:48] I think it's on Lee Street, but it backs, or it's on Cornell, [32:52] so it backs up Lee Street. [32:53] Yeah, Lee Street is the, is there a lot? [32:56] Yeah. [32:58] 151, but I guess up there, [33:02] is [33:05] that Lee at the top? [33:07] No, it would be farther down. [33:11] yeah it's farther down it's in the I think in the 200 block anyway they show [33:17] that that lot will go all the way across it'll go from Lee Street to Cornelson [33:22] yes they combined they just made a big backyard is what they've done and [33:26] it bettered up in Sleeve but there is a structure I think it was it like he says [33:32] it was going to be a greenhouse or something at the time but yeah should have [33:37] We've got a building permit and made sure the mid setbacks. [33:40] And they may have a building permit. [33:42] I will have to check on that. [33:43] Okay. [33:44] But I can check on that in email, you guys, and let you know. [33:47] Okay. [33:48] Yeah, I think that's true. [33:49] Yeah, that's it. [33:50] To Lee Street, that structure, they tore down. [33:54] Yes. [33:57] Okay. [33:58] But I will check into that. [33:59] Okay. [34:00] It's all ahead. [34:04] Do we need to leave these drawings, or do we take them? [34:09] If you like, you can keep it and that's all I have. [34:17] Okay. Anyone else? Any other discussion? [34:21] Okay. We're adjourned. [34:23] All right. [34:23] What? [34:24] Are you two terrible? [34:26] No.