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Good evening, everyone. We're going to call the order of the July 1st, 2026, 11 in city council meeting. Mr. Management, if you could give your

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field please. Thank you Mr. Mayor. This meeting is being conducted in accordance with our say 91 a it's being conducted in person 11 in city council chambers. This meeting can be accessed through the city's virtual platform.

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Instructions on how to enter the meeting remotely are available in the city's website 11 and a h dot go back slash five. If there's any problem with the virtual platform, the meetings will continue is the only legal requirement under our say 91 a.

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has to have a form of member's present in person,

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individuals participating remotely,

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who wish to speak when public comment is allowed.

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Can I mute themselves and ask to be recognized by the chair?

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Individuals attending in person,

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who wish to speak when public comment is allowed,

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can raise their hand to be recognized by the chair.

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Individuals attending in person should approach the podium

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more of the presenter's table to use the microphone

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so that everyone in the room and attending virtually can hear.

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For all individuals speaking, either remotely

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or in person, please state your name and the Board of Residents

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and Lebanon and our name, the community where you live.

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And if appropriate, please be prepared to spell,

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your name for the recording secretary.

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Thank you, Mr. Manager.

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If you get all please rise for the pledge.

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pledge allegiance to the side of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which is one nation

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on regard on indivisible liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you, everyone, as a manager noted,

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any member of the public who desires to speak on an item

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may do so when the item is taken up by the council.

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If you wish to speak on an item not on tonight's agenda,

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may do so in the open of the public section shortly to follow. Again, we ask you to come to the

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podium or the microphones, state your name, order of residence, or location from where you live,

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and use the microphone provided. Without we'll go right into the city manager report.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor, very briefly this evening. Just a couple of items. I sent out to all of you earlier

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today that our protocol for the heat wave that we're in the midst of right now as well as some resources

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for your constituents and city residents. We do have cooling areas for people, downtown public

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library, the Kilton Public Library, the 11th and senior center of 11th and city hall. All will

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be open tomorrow with water, staff, seating areas, ADA accessibility, restrooms and air

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conditioning. The Lakona Municipal pool will be open through the weekend and free to residents

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of 11th. So this will continue to monitor the situation and the heat is supposed to break

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sometime on Saturday, but we'll keep an eye on it and adjust our plants in the city accordingly

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based on the weather conditions. All of you have seen there's significant construction

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taking place throughout the city of Lebanon. There's an awful lot of congestion and struggles

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with our pedestrian traffic that we are aware of. The city has made some trade-offs and a

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retrospective perhaps we could have revisited some of the pedestrian walkways and the issues that

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having right now, but we were trying to not only create the shortest route for people to travel

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during the construction period, but most importantly to create the safest route. I know

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that's created some issues with folks, particularly on pedestrians and bike traffic. We are

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trying to work through it as fast as we can on the safest manner possible. I would, if you have

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constituents who have concerns or complaints, make sure to direct them to my office. I'll certainly

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share them with the crew that's out there right now.

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Coming up tomorrow evening on July 2nd is our July 4th fireworks.

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It will take place after the farmer's market

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in the front porch concert here downtown.

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The fireworks will be launched from Stor's Hill.

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So that is an exciting way.

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And as I said last time, our friends at Novo

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inortis were kind enough to sponsor our fireworks show this year.

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So make sure to extend our appreciation if you happen to bump

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into someone from Novo.

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And also, MacAv, our smoke test is scheduled for tomorrow.

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I believe we're starting between 8 and 9 a.m.

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We'll have a full crew down there.

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I'll be there at some point myself as well to talk with residents, let them know what's going on,

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and do a full analysis once the test is completed.

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With that, I would conclude my remarks this evening, Mr. Mayor.

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If you have any questions or comments, I'd be happy to take them.

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Councillor Oslo's questions?

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This is Mark. Maybe not a question so much, but thank you for the checking in on the

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Mescomo Mechanic High Street intersection. It's my constituents and myself as a pedestrian who

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were raising concerns and I will say that as much as it has been difficult for people who are

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pedestrians to get through the work crews and the flaggers have been very helpful. I am grateful that

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are, they're doing their best to help us get through the intersection as difficult as it is.

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Councillor's any other comments? Questions? Just they have council funds?

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Kind of a timely update on that. Am I way in from West Leb, coming in on

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mechanic street? A person coming the other direction from high street?

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I made a wrong turn and ended up in my lane so the navigation of that circle or how when

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navigates it without a flag or might be a little bit unclear.

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Okay.

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We'll do.

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Thanks, Councillor.

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Seeing none, we'll move into open to the public discussion if there's a member of the public

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here tonight who would like to speak on an item not on tonight's item that they can

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do so now. I think it's coming right on out. There's a lot of you here.

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Bring up my teams. Anyone online who'd like to make a comment not on tonight's

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agenda, you may do so now just please come off mute, say your name, et cetera.

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We'll close the open of the public section. We'll move right into our approval

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minutes. We have one set of minutes from June 17th.

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Councillors, are there any changes you like to make some of its

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Thank you Mr. Mayor, this is on page 14,

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just a second, line 15, and it starts Ms. Davis asked about recreational parking side of things and said it would be unfortunate dot dot dot. I remember that comment being raised, but it wasn't me that raised it, and I don't recall who did.

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Councillor Cole is that? I know you talked about that too. I might have been. Yeah, I raised that. Yeah. Okay. So I think so Donna for on page 14 of tonight's

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packet line 15, change mis Davis to Mr. Cole. I think that's yeah. And and there was a comment that I made that is not reflected in the minutes, but was quoted in the newspaper.

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And it was towards the end of the conversation that I said that I hoped that the due diligence

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was being conducted to make sure that the city could not be accused of spots on it.

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And that's not here at all.

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Donna, let's add that comment on page 15 of the packet.

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It would be between Rose 15 and 16, not sure 100% when it happened and then reflect close enough.

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And you'll hear it back on the recording, but the common is just to ensure the city is looking to ensure that we are not spot zoning.

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Or sorry, Councilor Davis is looking to have the city ensure that we are not going to be accused of spot zoning.

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All right, Councillors, any other changes?

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Councillor Key?

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Yes, on page 14, line 32.

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It says, Councillor Key asked if they want to expand in the future.

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Are they locked into the current plan?

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I actually was sentiment was.

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Is there a current site plan and use plan finalized?

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And if so, are they locked into that for the future?

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I didn't receive a response about it seemed that there was no site plan that was final in

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the or at least the city was unaware of what their use plan was.

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Yep, Councillor Fonts.

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Same page, 14, lines, 39, 342.

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I think the just of what it is that I expressed as a

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mixture of really, I was concerned about whether the

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intended future use of the child care facility

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would negatively impact all of the desire to

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potential future uses of BSA, U-building, and it's

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surrounding ground.

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From the context for that, of course, that the

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subcommittee as well as others are looking at that property as a potential arts, being

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or other sort of community asset, and we wouldn't want to have programming in that space,

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or for that matter, parking accessibility and that to those services negatively affected

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by additional development on that platform.

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You know, Councillors, any other changes?

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Do we have a motion to approve as amended?

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So moved by Councillor Fonts, we have a second, seconded by Councillor Ford Burling, Donna

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is noting Councillor Appleton is arrived at as of 16, so it will be eight of us, so

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all those in favor.

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If you're an animist among the eight of us present, thank you.

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Mr. Mayor, do you have a quick reminder, can I ask the Councillors to pull the microphones

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towards them to make sure that audio is getting captured please?

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And unmuted because I am the worst offender about that.

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All right.

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We're now going to move into appointments.

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I'm going to, we are pointing up to six tonight.

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So we four regular members to appoint two alternates.

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Everyone had applied just to be considered.

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So to capture this,

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we obviously, we recently stood up a,

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and acted a finance advisory committee for this year

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that go in the effect today, and we have three counselor members, four citizen representatives,

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two alternates.

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We asked everyone to apply and just, you know, because this is a committee that is first

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being stood up now, what I decided we would do is from a voting perspective, so I'll present

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them, myself, counselor, four burling, counselor key, all interviewed the applicants, I'm

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just trying to hit some of the high notes.

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I've provided everyone with counselor interview report forms

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admittedly somewhat late today.

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So apologies for that.

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But I'm just going to try and hit the high notes.

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And I'll let counselors for Berlin,

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counselor key way and if I have missed anything.

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And then what we're going to do is we'll have counselors

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can ask questions.

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And then yeah, we will hand out two sets of paper ballots.

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One is for regular membership.

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One is for alternate membership.

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So the regular membership, you're

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circle, the form applicants, who you would like to see appointed, we will total them up, and

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the four highest vote getters will be the regular members, and then we'll vote on the

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alternates, which will be the other two.

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Do a minute and a half of these out of the house, please.

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So the city manager is handing out the forms, so just sign your name to it too, because we'll

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using these forms for the minutes so that the votes are public. But I didn't want to just

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do kind of a roll call type vote in the sense of, I didn't want it to voting for one person

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to necessarily imply that you didn't want to vote for another or having no votes that may not

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reflect how you're feeling on any individual candidate. So this felt the most fair. So that said,

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We have six members, our six applicants,

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Fran Pacell, Bill Martin, Bob Moses, Kevin Percel,

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Jason Smith, and Matt Smith,

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and I'm just going to present them in alphabetical order by last name.

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So first up is Fran Percel,

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and I apologize if Fran, if I'm getting your last name,

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the pronunciation of your last name wrong.

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So obviously, we all know Fran, he is a very

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have it a tender of all of our meetings very engaged in the city has become very

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engaged to in the finance and budget process. He's also a strong history of

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engagement with the city through various sports and committees that he

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attends voluntarily to understand what is going on in the city and what decisions

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In terms of I think highlights I'm going to focus more for all candidates

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It's kind of on experience, but so Fran has experienced long-term experience in banking,

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running his own business, obviously being very involved and engaged with the city's budget

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process and our very sports and committees.

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He's when we asked about to define his own, how he would define his own qualifications,

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one of the things he highlighted that I wanted to highlight here is,

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ability to analyze things pretty quickly, come up with an assessment about what's happening around

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him, noting his strong work ethic, which we've all seen, and how he's really learned a lot about

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our municipal operations and finance in the past. Oh, that's a typo. I should have said two years. Sorry,

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past two years of involvement.

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In terms of what he hopes the fact will accomplish is really

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his focus as much more on revenue opportunities, just quoting what I put in the reform, but he

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that Levin has tremendous opportunity right now that the city isn't using and he wants residents

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have a sustainable community that provides all the services needed and also takes care of our neighbors who may be less fortunate.

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And feels that the city can do that and he wants to make Levin better for everyone and sure that everyone can stay here.

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And that can be achieved really with a bigger focus on revenue opportunities and maximizing use of various assets of the city.

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I think I captured the highlights, but the counselors, if I missed any.

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Thank you.

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So, and I should have said too.

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I'm going to open this up to Councillors to just ask questions because obviously we interviewed

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them and I'm just kind of rapid fire going through some of this a little bit, but if there's

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certain things, you might want more insight on or, you know, kind of answers to or happy

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to do so.

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And you can ask at any time or not.

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I just should have said that upfront.

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so sorry.

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So I will move into Bill Martin.

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So Bill is a finance professional. He's worked

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in investment banking and for the past 25 years he's taught finance investments and strategy

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at talk. He served on on profit boards for profit boards. I believe I hope I'm not miscoding

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that. And what he brought I think that stood out was really his approach to listening to all sides,

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understanding the issues and hoping to make meaningful contributions to the council that really

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balances all of the stakeholder interests and very complex topics.

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He, his background, as I said,

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it's an investment banking and bond option trading, which is very financially driven and complicated.

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I know from my own past experience in hedge funds, he did that for about a decade and then

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since after that he's been teaching at talk for the past 25 years, so very dialed into the finance world.

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Very familiar with the kind of work we would be doing, budgets to actual financial reviews,

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kind of common size analysis.

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I think in terms of other highlights, you know, I would say, you know, to note that he

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has served on various boards such as hospital boards, habitat for humanity, and working

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in kind of across, you know, I would say, organizational modalities, sorry to be MBA, people

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It's late in the night for that,

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Councilors any additions to Bill think I hit the

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No, I think he also pointed out that there are you know many different stakeholder groups and you know

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Trying to unify around some consensus with the important

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Thank you

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next up is Bob Moses

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Bob is an ex-very experienced CTA

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He served on the school board

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He served on City Council, many non-profit boards.

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He is a lot of relevant education and experience

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directly related to the work of the fact

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he'd be bringing a business perspective as well

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as a knowledge of municipal and state government

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and union contracts, especially through his experience

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on the school board.

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Kind of all of the highlights I have for him really hit,

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kind of billed off of that,

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but he's run his own CPA firm in Lebanon for 30 years.

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He served in various leadership capacities.

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He served on the MSB board.

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He served as chairman of that.

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He's also served on the Hampshire Charitable Foundation

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Finance Committee,

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and again, similarly,

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I think he in terms of approach,

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think, you know, I just noted from the interview notes

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that really bringing people together

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finding consensus and finding that balance among the various interests, stakeholders and needs.

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Yeah, Council for Berley.

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Yes, to add that that a little bit.

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Yeah, Bob has been a volunteer in many, many capacities over the years.

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And in the interview, he really expressed that this was,

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it's another way for him to give back to the community.

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He's happy to see his seat to, he specifically said someone younger.

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So he's thinking about the future of Lebanon and over all just very thoughtful and someone who's been very involved in Lebanon for a long time

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Conquer

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All right,

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just to note that it looks like the version of the report that was in here is not the complete one. We were emailed the complete one later. Yeah, that's a me a culpa

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Autosave was not my friend when I sent this so it saved only half of what I put in so I did send a revised version to counselors

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We'll get the revised version in

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For the minutes, but yeah, sorry about that

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And thank you to these just a mayor for sending me a message about that because I said no, I feel the whole thing. How what do you?

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sad

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All right next up Kevin Purcell

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so Kevin is

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longstanding, obviously, Lebanon resident, business operations

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profession, and all, he has significant professional experience

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directly relevant to the work and goals of the fact, and he also

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is experienced serving on the board.

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I've served with him on EDC, he served on planning board, and one of

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the strengths that Kevin highlighted that he thought he would bring is

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he has an established network that he consults with regularly on business

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matters and that those are readily applicable to the city, especially

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given his involvement in, I'm going to be really brought about this, and so apologies to Kevin

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that this is probably too broad and simplistic, but within the real estate world, but related

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to that, he is responsible for the management of five different business entities and overseeing

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those, including dealing with labor, contracts, insurance, making sure following his own

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vegetables for his companies being able to make, you know, both short, quick, short term

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type changes to that when, you know, there's significant kind of outside events such as

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when gas prices went to six dollars a gallon, as well as long term financial planning around,

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you know, kind of the best use of assets and, you know, kind of best optimal outcomes in the long

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term.

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Sorry, I lost my place.

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I think, you know, Kevin, obviously is a lot of experience

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working, you know, kind of, it working within the city, but also working with the city

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in terms of both processes from like planning board perspective, but also having, again,

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served on the planning board served on EDC. He's been a tremendous asset in a number of ways

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to the city and some of the work we do. And certainly I would say from my own perspective,

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I've had some great conversations with Kevin about things.

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So I would now turn it to

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the Council's Fort Berlin Council key if I missed anything. I like

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moving on to and then

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Jay Sims, another experience CPA. Jay is also an auditor. He is obviously significant experience

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through that, looking at municipal budgets, municipal finances, municipal accounting, experience

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through city of Manchester, auditing the city of Manchester in the city of Burlington.

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He is a long, you know, a strong history of engaging with the city on financial

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matters and really backing that with effort to understand the operational needs and to explore

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measures and bringing a detailed oriented data

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to a different approach to review, to reviews, sorry.

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He served, obviously, so Jay is the chair

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of the trustees of the trust, and I

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think that's worth highlighting.

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He's been part of that group for a very long time.

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He's served on the Library Foundation Board

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and the President of the Lebanon Little League.

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And one of the, sorry, I got to find it,

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because I really liked the quote, and I wrote it down.

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Oh, here we go.

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So one of the things in his 40-year career

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an auditor, he always helped focus to help clients grow their business through revenue growth

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or expense savings, six expense savings to help drive his own practice success, but his goal

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is an auditor was to, as he said, always come back with an idea, and I think that's great.

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And I say that to also echo, like I've seen that in Jay's, like Jay will send very long detailed

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emails, and I always make sure to read them all, because there's always really good ideas

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in there.

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And so I think, you know, I just wanted to highlight that, and certainly in terms of my experience.

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Counselors, yep, for Councilor Farberley.

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I'll just note that Jay was the only one that we interviewed who came with handouts.

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That's true.

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Yeah, we're going to use, we're going to leverage Jay's claw licensing to reduce some financials.

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All right, and now we also now have Matt Smith.

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So Matt is also a financial professional who brings kind of as he even described more of a non-finance

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lay person perspective, but he's tremendous experience serving on Lebanon and boards, including

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the Heritage Commission, Matt also interested in using data to understand and explain big

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picture concepts and is hoping the fact will take deeper dives on specific topics to provide objective

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information of the city council, he currently serves on the Heritage Commission, on the Board

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of the Historical Society, and he's a financial manager by trade for UVMC, and one of the

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things I thought was interesting in the way Matt framed it is his, sorry, here we go, I was trying

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of it. Matt and getting his degree in history wrote his capstone project using newspaper primary

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sources to explain changes in census data in South Carolina, which is just the context

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for he really discussed with us that he really wants to use data and history to tell the story

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in the numbers. And especially, you know, we saw this across a few applicants kind of the view

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to try and understand how we got here and where we are

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and using, again, that data and history

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to explain kind of the current state

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and perhaps decisions that need to be made

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and actions that need to be taken.

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Counselors?

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Okay.

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So that is all six.

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I will just give a couple moments

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if anyone has questions.

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I did rapid fire through that.

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So I appreciate everyone hanging in there with me.

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One additional comment is we're incredibly fortunate

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to have so many qualified candidates.

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I think it's very obvious from the mayor's summary.

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But no one is unqualified.

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I think we're the city of Lebanon is a very fortunate.

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So I want to thank everyone who volunteered their time,

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both for this committee and in general.

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OK, this is stuck with us.

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OK.

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Thank you.

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So with that I'm just going to go ahead and nominate all six for regular membership and obviously now you have your piece of paper I'm just going to hold it up so people can see it's very fancy.

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But just circle before that you would like for regular membership and then kind of I guess I'll collect them because I'm counting them.

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And then I go, go ahead and count on it.

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Go ahead and count on it.

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Go ahead and count on it.

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Go ahead and count

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on it.

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If I just need one,

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I can count on it.

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I can count on what we all have to wait while I count these.

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You know, I should have thought that one too though.

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I don't know what we're going to do.

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I'm going to be more complicated, right?

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Well, you know, we like CPAs, like very structured.

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Talk amongst yourselves.

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Talk in the flying.

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And while I'm doing this, Donna, we will provide these to you as well as the totals for the minutes, just so that that can get copied in.

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I mean you'll provide valid. Correct. Okay, thank you.

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So this should be 32.

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All right, great. I got that right.

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All right, so I'm going to, actually, I'm going to double check this one.

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All right.

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So, going through, I'm just going to go in terms of top votes. Jason's with eight. Bob Moses with six. Bill Martin with five and Matt Smith with five. Kevin for the L with four and Frank a cell with four. So our regular members will be J. Bob Bill and Matt. So congratulations and thank you.

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Yes, sir May, or procedurally speaking, would it make sense for somebody to nominate those

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or have an official vote on the record or does this face as an official record?

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That's why I actually, that's why I said I'm going to nominate all six and then you're going to choose.

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And then we will tally these votes and we include them in the minutes, specifically to record all of our votes.

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Okay, thank you.

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Yep.

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It's a good question.

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That one I at least had thought through, and actually I'm going to hand you the means for safekeeping.

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We all also double check those numbers, but I'm pretty sure I got a hundred percent.

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It's always good to have someone else check your word.

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So with that, I set this up when I was thinking we might have more than six, but obviously we've got two members left.

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So I will go ahead and nominate Kevin Purcell and Frank Isel for Alternate Membership.

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So there's two left and two open spots, so I'm just going to run these in order.

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So again, I'll nominate them, all those in favor of appointing Kevin Purcell as an alternate

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member.

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It is unanimous.

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Thank you.

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And all those in favor of appointing Frank Isel as an alternate member.

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It is unanimous.

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Thank you.

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I think that's probably quicker than me counting these all again.

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So I want to thank every all the applicants to for the Finance Advisory Committee.

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I know I think a good most of you are all of you very well.

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And as Councillor Forberley said, just the tremendous amount of experience in skill sets that

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that came forward is tremendous.

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And I think also speeds to the level of engagement the residents have in the city.

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So looking forward to working with all of you, we will be in touch, we are probably going to have a meeting kick off meeting in a couple weeks, but I have to organize that with everyone.

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But that first meeting just for everyone's clarity will probably start figuring out meeting cadence, think, you know, what we're going to do and when.

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And then in August, we will have another meeting to start reviewing the Q2.

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Yeah, Q2 financials.

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We have, we're going to hold the councils review of the financials in September.

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We've kind of pushed that one back a little bit so that the finance committee can do its first pass.

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And it's kind of a first attempt at this.

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So we'll probably do it a little differently each time for a couple quarters.

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And do it a little quicker next time, but I wanted to again, since we were starting up, give the Finance Committee a chance to review it first.

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So with that, I need to email this to you, Andrew.

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So that again, thank you all.

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Really appreciate it looking forward to working with you.

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We have no public hearing items tonight.

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We have no old business tonight.

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We have quite a lot of new business.

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So, we are first going to lead off with public information presentation from the Hampshire

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DOT.

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So, thank you for coming down here, or up here, tonight, on the Route 10 Culvert Replacement

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Project.

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Thank you very much.

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My name is Kirk Mudgek.

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I'm a project manager for this project.

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I had the specialty section at the Hampshire DOT.

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with me is Chris Wall and John Perrelli of Claw Farber Associates, the designers on the project.

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And we're here to present Lebanon 44776 proposed replacement of existing 4-foot by 3-foot concrete box under Route 10,

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located a half mile south of Wilderdam.

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We have invited a budding parcel owners to attend this meeting to make this meeting serve as a combined public officials and public information meeting.

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A public hearing for a right-of-way is expected later this summer.

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This project is funded through their covert rehab replacement and drainage repairs program.

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It is funded at 80% federal, 20% state, no local funds being sought.

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And I'll start off by giving us the background info on the project, really kind of setting the table, and then I'll turn it over for the bulk of the presentation to CHA to do the project details.

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At the end, we'll be happy to answer any questions.

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And we're showing a project location map.

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circle does a in red as the location of a culvert. It's an unnamed

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tributary to connect river. Next slide. And we zoom in a little bit for the

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aerial view and some tax map level property lines in light gray and the

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project area of focus on is in a wind and orange.

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So we inventory and

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respect and score and rank are worse condition large culverts in the state.

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This location was chosen as a product due to its age, condition and solstability issues.

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It's a routine, light to call it a routine, routine type of project.

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Generally, culvert placements are, however, this location has some challenges.

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Mostly do that, solstability.

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In the past, we placed some stone on those steep slopes and extended the headers via some

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concrete barrier. On it to see those measures eventually start to fail. As you can kind of

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see in the lower right hand corner, some of that barrier is falling off that head wall. I think

454
00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:39,570
maybe district is taking care of that in the meantime, but that is something that had occurred.

455
00:36:39,570 --> 00:37:06,290
And on the bottom right we indicate the intern inside inlet part that has been eroding both the head wall and the bottom or the base of the walls and it's kind of hidden by the shadows and it goes in the covered but it kind of causes a stability issue that we need to watch for long term concern.

456
00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:19,310
The immediate slope stability issue could be, and I'm adding larger wing walls with this project.

457
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:31,880
So as we show these photos, you might know that this culprit is really kind of reach the end of its service life and these replacement.

458
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:40,800
And we had previously replaced a covert, I think 2019 era,

459
00:37:42,940 --> 00:37:44,420
to the north of this covert,

460
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:51,220
draining Boston Lot Lake, or at least the outlet across Route 10 for Boston Lot Lake.

461
00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:59,300
And at that time we came to you with the idea of closure of the roadway, it was not an easy

462
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:06,060
prospect, mainly due to the hospital, to the north and the connection on Route 10 to service

463
00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:14,240
the city's needs. So, we are proceeding with this project with the intention to keep

464
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:20,160
the road open. However, Route 10 is very narrow at the site and there are steep drop-offs

465
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:26,200
there at this particular location leading to challenges and additional costs to keep that

466
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,600
way open during construction.

467
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:35,390
So now I'll turn this presentation over to CHA to cover more details

468
00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:37,270
and propose traffic control.

469
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:43,410
Thanks, Kurt. I'm Chris Wall, structural engineer and project manager for CHA. I'm here today

470
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:48,630
with John Carelli, who is the lead highway engineer for CHA for this project. Since I'm a bridge engineer,

471
00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:52,090
I'd like to start out with these photos. I provide a view of the site and can't get from Google

472
00:38:52,090 --> 00:38:57,610
street view, or C. driving down the road. If you are driving north under 10, the water through

473
00:38:57,610 --> 00:39:02,070
the culvert would be flowing from right to left. The two photos on the left are on the

474
00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:06,770
downstream or west side of the road. You can see in the top left photo that concrete barriers

475
00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:10,350
installed to retain the soil embakments have shifted and are a little longer functional as

476
00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:16,990
intended as curtailed to this. It has been addressed recently, but this did occur. Since this

477
00:39:16,990 --> 00:39:20,230
The cause and reduction in the size of the outlet at that time.

478
00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:24,670
The bottom left photo shows the steep drop and elevation from the cover down of the

479
00:39:24,670 --> 00:39:26,610
kinetic river and the distance.

480
00:39:27,590 --> 00:39:31,970
The top right photo shows the severe deterioration of concrete and how water has to flow

481
00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:34,690
around obstructions in the channel to enter the cover.

482
00:39:35,770 --> 00:39:39,890
Finally, the bottom right photo illustrates how shallow the water is upstream and how much

483
00:39:39,890 --> 00:39:41,970
flat are the approaches in the downstream set.

484
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,660
Unfortunately, the cover does not the only thing to consider for this product.

485
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:55,960
Route 10 passes over the structure in the north-south direction, there is one traveling in each direction that are a little over 11 feet wide with paved shoulders at about a foot wide.

486
00:39:56,660 --> 00:40:03,780
The guard rolls are close to the roadway and as you can see in both photos, they are too close as there is impact damage visible that is likely from class.

487
00:40:04,780 --> 00:40:11,300
It might be hard to tell from the photos, but the road itself has vertical and horizontal pairs, particularly at the south approach.

488
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Now that you've seen the site and existing locations, let's talk about the goals, what the goals are for this project.

489
00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:21,900
Obviously the main goals replace the existing culprit.

490
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:25,120
A new structure would have a design life of at least 75 years.

491
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,200
It would increase the size of the opening, which improves hydraulic performance,

492
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:31,100
and it can stabilize the slopes on both sides of the road.

493
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,920
As Kurt mentioned earlier, maintaining two weight traffic throughout the construction is a major priority.

494
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:42,460
To accomplish this, on such a narrow road, the road at the culvert will be limited to one lane of alternating traffic and both directions.

495
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:52,020
To minimize vehicular impacts and improve safety for any pedestrians or bicyclists, the guard will offset or where you consider the shoulder will be increased to 5 feet.

496
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:59,360
Since the culvert itself is small, the amount of proposed roadwork is not significant and will be limited to less than 200 feet north and south of the culvert.

497
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,060
Restricting the size of the project also has right away an environmental benefit as it minimizes impacts.

498
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:09,950
There were three design alternatives considered to accomplish the project goals.

499
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,990
The first was replicating the structure that is out there now.

500
00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:17,530
The second alternative was a larger box cover, as the name indicates a box cover would

501
00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:20,850
have four sides, so the natural stream bed material will be placed within the cover.

502
00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:25,650
The last design alternative was a larger three-sided cover that would have concrete footings

503
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:26,770
which support the walls.

504
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:30,910
While this is not at least a channel exposed, there is potential for scour.

505
00:41:31,470 --> 00:41:34,730
Scour is when the stream bed material gets washed away downstream and made the structure

506
00:41:34,730 --> 00:41:39,590
Foundation on stable. This is a serious concern as scour is the number one cause of bridge failures.

507
00:41:41,310 --> 00:41:44,750
Compare on the three design alternatives led to the decision to proceed with alternative to

508
00:41:44,750 --> 00:41:49,710
the larger concrete box cover. This alternative does extend the product limits,

509
00:41:49,970 --> 00:41:54,130
it minimizes environmental impacts, provides a larger opening that reduces the need for

510
00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:59,170
debris removal, and accommodates aquatic life passage, and eliminates scour concerns.

511
00:42:00,010 --> 00:42:04,110
When comparing existing versus proposed cover performance, there are a few key points.

512
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:10,430
Because changes in minor, the channel and roadway will have very similar vertical profiles and horizontal elements.

513
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:14,370
The structure itself will be safer, and embakeness will be more stable.

514
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:19,650
Also, the larger culvert allows for more water to flow below the roadway at a lower speed,

515
00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:23,530
and that minimizes erosion and future impacts to the downstream embakments.

516
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:27,890
Here is the proposed general plan of the entire product.

517
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:32,570
As noted, the total length of the roadward is about 325 feet.

518
00:42:32,570 --> 00:42:39,270
The proposed culver is centered between these limits and the temporary water bypass location is depicted to the right.

519
00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:44,010
Since slope stability is a current issue, we consider various options.

520
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:51,850
Because the channel is very now for stream diversion and the proposed culver, a steep stone slope, is required at the outlet.

521
00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:56,350
Which is illustrated with the hatch area above the roadway and on this plan view.

522
00:42:57,130 --> 00:42:59,370
We will be assessing tree impacts this area in the near future.

523
00:43:01,220 --> 00:43:05,500
This is the profile of root 10, which is basically a cross section along the center line of the road.

524
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:09,640
You can see the depth of the culvert and the size comparison between existing proposed structures,

525
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,440
but be aware the scale for this detail is stretched vertically to show the minor change in the profile,

526
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,740
and the culvert is actually wider than it is tall.

527
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,320
Here's a good comparison of the existing and proposed sections, which are taken across the roadway with the culvert crosses.

528
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,700
This is a view looking north of this downstream or the west side is on the left.

529
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,360
The left side of the cover ends at a similar location for both existing and proposed sections.

530
00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:37,860
Because the proposed section will have a taller wall and both sides of the roadway,

531
00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:42,720
we can actually increase the roadway with with the cover that doesn't extend as far on the right side.

532
00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:49,500
I'd also like to point out that there is an existing waterman near the top of the proposed cover that may need to be relocated.

533
00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:53,360
I'm sure most of you are curious about impacts of traffic.

534
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:57,560
The next set of slides will walk you through how traffic will be managed during construction.

535
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:04,500
Again, looking north here is the existing traffic layout with one lane dedicated to travel in each direction.

536
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,380
Prior to any reduction in the number of lanes, the roadway will need to be widened on the east side.

537
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:17,220
There will be sheeting install to reduce impact to property parcels on the east side, but that does come at it is added cost.

538
00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:25,660
For the first phase of the Colbert construction, the roadway will shift to the east and utilize one lane, alternative pattern to maintain northbound and southbound traffic.

539
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Here's a plan view of what the first phase will look like.

540
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,260
The travel line is narrow at the culvert, but why does it do allow access to nearby driveways.

541
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:40,940
Once the west side of the culvert is constructed, constructed traffic can shift onto the

542
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:44,600
proposed section while the remaining eastern portion is removed and replaced.

543
00:44:46,940 --> 00:44:50,520
Here's a plan view of the second phase, similar to the first phase the travel narrows

544
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,820
at the culvert, but why does it allow driveway access.

545
00:44:55,090 --> 00:44:59,350
Once the entire proposed cover is completed, traffic will be restored to two travel lanes

546
00:44:59,350 --> 00:44:59,970
with five-foot sh-

547
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,540
Please note that two feet of the show that will be paved while the other three feet will be gravel where there is gargrel.

548
00:45:08,050 --> 00:45:16,350
As you can see, we are currently in the design phase. The schedule has an anticipated ad date of February 16th, 2027, to allow construction to begin in fall of 2027.

549
00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:22,510
However, if there are delays due to right away permitting or utilities, the construction may get pushed to 2028.

550
00:45:23,490 --> 00:45:28,630
Corneus have not been itemized yet, but the preliminary estimate for construction is $1 million.

551
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:33,550
Thank you for your time and we'd be glad to answer any questions you may have about this

552
00:45:33,550 --> 00:45:33,890
project.

553
00:45:35,310 --> 00:45:36,810
Yeah, just a couple of quick questions.

554
00:45:37,070 --> 00:45:40,670
The first is, you talked about alternating traffic in a one-lane road.

555
00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:48,230
So how are you going to alternate, is that going to be the kind of temporary traffic light

556
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:53,470
that was done when there's some road work that I'd be done on, like, a couple years ago?

557
00:45:53,470 --> 00:46:00,590
Yeah, so like you said temporary traffic signals that either end would be handling the alternating to a traffic.

558
00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:04,770
All right, this plan view shows the stop bars and how you would be stopped.

559
00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:07,510
Oh, I would certainly distance away from the right narrows.

560
00:46:08,090 --> 00:46:10,390
The waves themselves aren't shown, but yeah.

561
00:46:10,850 --> 00:46:16,970
And how long is the project anticipated to last in terms of like total construction timeline?

562
00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:19,490
It would be within one construction season.

563
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:22,470
I'd expect timeline to like come three months.

564
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:23,370
Yeah, something like that.

565
00:46:23,370 --> 00:46:23,550
Okay.

566
00:46:23,710 --> 00:46:24,870
It's not a huge project.

567
00:46:25,650 --> 00:46:26,630
Thank you.

568
00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:27,950
Councillor Stavis.

569
00:46:28,850 --> 00:46:29,830
Thank you.

570
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:34,250
Questions about the map, which I can't quite make out.

571
00:46:34,830 --> 00:46:36,330
The project locations slide.

572
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:37,510
Oh, sure.

573
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:38,790
I've been one.

574
00:46:39,010 --> 00:46:39,510
This one.

575
00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:40,210
Yeah.

576
00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:44,470
There are streets here that exist, but are not on the map.

577
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:51,570
Like esterbrook circle, north of that, that's what I can't make out from this map.

578
00:46:51,570 --> 00:46:55,770
It's like the North and the world of sensing is around the park.

579
00:46:56,090 --> 00:46:56,930
Yeah, the

580
00:47:13,090 --> 00:47:14,170
west side is deep, yeah.

581
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:17,370
So will any of the right of way be on the River Park land?

582
00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:24,570
So there would need to be a small easement on that parcel.

583
00:47:27,110 --> 00:47:30,770
There's no right-of-way purchase plan with it.

584
00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:31,970
Right, but there's easements.

585
00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:54,360
It's not a backseat engineer here, I'm just kind of curious, and do you know is this considered an intermittent or perennial stream?

586
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,220
And either way, do you know what the percentage of bank full of color is projected to be?

587
00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:01,060
I'm just curious, I didn't see them in plans.

588
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:06,660
I do not know if it's been very shallow without there.

589
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,280
I believe it's perennial, but it is a lower class stream, right?

590
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,760
When we classify tears.

591
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:22,580
Yeah, yeah, I was mostly just curious just because I know that like yeah, like you're saying that there's a pretty steep in bank bend on the west side there and you know

592
00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:27,000
Just trying to make sure that we don't over like construct our streams in case of you know more more

593
00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:35,980
Extreme weather and the emotion from there. I drive this way a lot because it is directly between my house and campion hockey

594
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:41,420
Rink so in winter I drive this like four times a week or more

595
00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:48,520
But it's like, there's that whole funnel kind of on the east side going up that hill that's right there.

596
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,660
And it just drains straight like straight into where this cul-very is based.

597
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:55,520
They have that kind of bridge there right before you get to the house.

598
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:02,660
So that, you know, in terms of like you're talking about that, the big risk is really around, you know, March April when everything's melting.

599
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,660
Because all of that is funneling through.

600
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,160
And it goes from like tiny little creek into actually like very noticeable influence or whatever.

601
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,380
It's not that much, but you know what I mean?

602
00:49:12,860 --> 00:49:13,780
Yeah, that makes sense.

603
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:16,400
Yeah, this photo show, how the problem you have,

604
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:19,180
the one in the bottom, right, is actually looking a little bit of an angle.

605
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:21,540
So it doesn't flow directly into it, as I said,

606
00:49:21,660 --> 00:49:24,660
it kind of is a little concrete chunk in front of the opening

607
00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:25,760
on the top, right?

608
00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:28,740
So it kind of comes in and goes, just a sharp right,

609
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,440
and then it'll left to go under the top,

610
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,480
the inch of the culvert.

611
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,820
And right now, it's about, it's a three and a half by four

612
00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:37,360
for culvert, we're gonna make it of like a feet wide and five feet tall.

613
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,360
So it's gonna be bigger.

614
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,360
It's gonna be both twice as big.

615
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,420
Yeah, that makes sense.

616
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:46,080
I just know I worked a little bit on top of it in Vermont and so just I have definitely seen it where people have gone

617
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,140
We have a tiny little culper. We're gonna upgrade it. It's gonna be big and then it's still under so I

618
00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:54,820
And we checked that it's size for the high jobs. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, just curious. Thank you

619
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,000
Council is any other questions council fonts?

620
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,360
Can you remind us what is the total width of the road before and after and likewise the shoulders?

621
00:50:05,980 --> 00:50:10,940
So there were 11 foot lanes with one foot shoulders. There was a little bit of

622
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:13,450
I can show you here.

623
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:17,890
So that's the 11 foot, 11 foot, three inch lanes, and then about one foot shoulder.

624
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:22,510
I think there's a little bit more between the offset of the guardrails, and then we're

625
00:50:22,510 --> 00:50:28,750
going to have 11 foot lanes with five foot shoulders from the lane to the face of guardrail.

626
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:31,010
But the page surface is not changing.

627
00:50:31,330 --> 00:50:35,250
The page surface will be two feet wide, so it kind of ends where it is now, but we're going

628
00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:36,370
to offset the guardrails more.

629
00:50:36,670 --> 00:50:41,030
Essentially, just to get the plows more space, so our guardrails don't get impacted.

630
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:47,390
maybe pedestrian travel is improved. We're having a gravel shoulder as well as we're providing

631
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:51,990
proper backup for our guard real posts. We're today and they don't really have that.

632
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:59,620
Did any of the exploration for this project include kind of looking at the full length of that

633
00:50:59,620 --> 00:51:04,800
road with respect to whether that improvement that you're making in the shoulder might extend beyond

634
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,920
the work zone? Not that you would do it on the project, but rather just informationally.

635
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,220
We didn't look at that aspect.

636
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:16,800
Years ago prior to the Boston Law Lake Colbert,

637
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,280
we looked at resurfacing and widening shoulders,

638
00:51:20,660 --> 00:51:24,360
so that had been looked at 15 years ago,

639
00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:27,240
we hadn't looked at it that I know of since.

640
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Okay, thank you.

641
00:51:30,340 --> 00:51:33,300
Sorry, one question off of that from me.

642
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,920
So is your widening the guardrails?

643
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:42,080
obviously very dense kind of foliage in that area. When you widen the

644
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,660
guardrails, there's a plan to provide any kind of like regular, it wouldn't

645
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:52,980
be mowing, but you know what I mean? Like, kind of floor a maintenance, you know, to keep

646
00:51:52,980 --> 00:52:00,600
that space open or like what would be the plan or just leave it to be? Well, our

647
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,420
slopes that we'll put back, we'll likely have that larger stone. Okay, then what's

648
00:52:05,420 --> 00:52:12,960
today. We'll make growing a little bit even harder. Today there are some small trees on the

649
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:19,340
outlet side. I want to say that there's not much growing except for Japanese knotweed on the

650
00:52:19,340 --> 00:52:24,840
inlet side. We wouldn't necessarily be trying to mow those steep slopes because what we put back

651
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,060
will be steep slopes. Yeah I was just thinking like really like where the guard rail is now you just

652
00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:36,800
kind of standard like brush that's growing up through it. And it's really it's more on the

653
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:42,120
upslope side than the downslope side but I was like I got always more of curiosity if there's any kind

654
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:48,300
of plan to do any kind of routine maintenance around there or not. Yeah limited right of way here.

655
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Okay for a roadway I don't know you know what kind of mowing right behind the guardrail that we

656
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,100
trying to do,

657
00:52:59,930 --> 00:53:03,130
I don't see anything the point, though, is that unless there is some management

658
00:53:03,130 --> 00:53:08,450
of that vegetation, it doesn't matter that we have widened the road technically because

659
00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:15,670
a person that's walking or riding a bike can't get through it. So, if there were a practice

660
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:20,730
that could be put in place to actually manage the vegetation on the inside of the guardrail,

661
00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:26,110
that would be, I think really, very helpful for those other uses. To challenge today,

662
00:53:26,110 --> 00:53:32,610
but that not weird because there's there's challenges to when you can and when you should

663
00:53:32,610 --> 00:53:41,090
and shouldn't be cutting that to prevent spread. So most of the time, at least in the past,

664
00:53:41,330 --> 00:53:45,150
we were told, don't mow it. Okay.

665
00:53:47,610 --> 00:53:49,670
Also the there will be walls and there are

666
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:53,910
now there's slopes if you've seen the top one. It kind of goes from the roadway and slopes down

667
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:56,290
with like the natural, we're going to be putting in walls there.

668
00:53:56,550 --> 00:53:58,110
So there will be just basically gravel in there.

669
00:53:58,130 --> 00:54:01,510
OK, so you're going to be taking out some of the gates

670
00:54:01,510 --> 00:54:02,830
that it's growing in.

671
00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:06,970
Yeah, the covert section itself is going to be walls there to retain it.

672
00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:08,310
So it's not just going to slip down.

673
00:54:08,310 --> 00:54:11,410
That's how we can get away with not having a structure that says long,

674
00:54:11,590 --> 00:54:13,750
but it gives you a little bit more roadway with just flat ends.

675
00:54:13,870 --> 00:54:16,610
Everything else, and provide the more stable slope on that one.

676
00:54:17,870 --> 00:54:23,650
Council for Bro, is this project undergoing review section

677
00:54:23,650 --> 00:54:26,210
one-on-one sex review with the dividend of historical resources?

678
00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:28,620
Yes.

679
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:30,400
Thank you.

680
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:35,420
Can I say any other questions?

681
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,520
Just a quick comment.

682
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,260
Picking up on what Councillor Fauts mentioned regarding the improvements here.

683
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,540
I believe this is a statewide bike route along Route 10.

684
00:54:47,380 --> 00:54:48,860
It's certainly used to be.

685
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:57,220
And obviously going from one foot of pavement, one foot paid shoulder to two feet is a big improvement for cyclists.

686
00:54:57,220 --> 00:55:01,480
going to three or four feet would be even better if that was a possibility.

687
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:07,660
And still provide some separation from the guardrail and from the traveling lane.

688
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:12,040
I do run, I do appreciate the extra foot.

689
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,760
But again, the product limit is only 325 feet.

690
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,940
So I think I suppose if you were actually widened the roadway beyond that,

691
00:55:20,020 --> 00:55:24,820
it wouldn't be much to go back and pave that extra footer through when that time comes.

692
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,060
It kind of, it's sometimes it's a problem when people have that, they have this swirf.

693
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,540
I think that's all from us.

694
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,860
I appreciate you coming and presenting and looking forward to our new culvert.

695
00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:46,100
I'm sure I'll try to buy your team, so as it's going in.

696
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,720
So, thank you, gentlemen, for coming tonight.

697
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:50,620
Thank you.

698
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,280
Thank you.

699
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,020
Was there any opportunity for the butters to provide in?

700
00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:55,560
Oh, yeah.

701
00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:56,800
Thank you for that.

702
00:55:57,260 --> 00:55:57,600
No, absolutely.

703
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,980
Yeah, I'm not useful for you or here.

704
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,520
Yeah, is there anyone who'd like to weigh in any of

705
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,460
the butters with comments?

706
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:06,980
People who don't just drive it for hockey?

707
00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:07,980
Yeah, Rebecca.

708
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:09,660
Has the number of that?

709
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:13,560
Yeah, you need to do the usual spiel.

710
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Sorry, as a representative of advanced transit,

711
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,740
I'm interested in hearing what type of stakeholder

712
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:25,300
outreach for those who have time-sensitive services

713
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:26,900
probably might be the only ones.

714
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:28,700
but if that is planned.

715
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:35,940
Well, we haven't gone through that.

716
00:56:36,940 --> 00:56:40,500
It's a challenge here just to keep in this roadway open.

717
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,800
Now it's been our approach from the beginning.

718
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:47,360
But we haven't done a outreach specifically to any groups.

719
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,080
Okay, so it sounds like in our own public noticing,

720
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,780
we will try to cover that as a city.

721
00:56:53,780 --> 00:57:03,240
it's not. And I just want to follow up quickly on what Mr. Brooks said. I'm seeing your planner

722
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:09,520
first city of Lebanon formally staffed to the PED by committee. And this section of root

723
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:16,680
10 has been looked at intensively in the past and including, you know, coordination with New Hampshire

724
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:23,560
DOT to look at opportunities to widen. I appreciate, as was mentioned, the opportunity to widen

725
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:33,400
the shoulders whenever we can with the dig once approach and encourage when there are other

726
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:40,100
culverts or servicing projects to keep incrementally improving that quarter. It is a big

727
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:46,120
challenge and we haven't been able to make progress in the multi-mobile safety there. Just

728
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:46,760
Lastly,

729
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,820
as a footnote, the Regional Planning Commission has been looking at co-verts, including

730
00:57:53,820 --> 00:58:02,020
that quarter, for opportunities for wildlife friendly measures, e-box co-verts are more wildlife

731
00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:08,260
friendly than others and help reduce roadway collisions, and if there are any opportunities

732
00:58:08,260 --> 00:58:16,360
during the whining to create or facilitate wildlife access to the

733
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,620
cover on the sides, it would probably be used even more.

734
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,360
That's all I had, thank you.

735
00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:24,320
Thanks for back home.

736
00:58:27,850 --> 00:58:30,050
Anyone else, or anyone online?

737
00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:37,630
I'm just knowing for the online audience if you want to weigh in.

738
00:58:38,050 --> 00:58:41,030
Just come off mute because we really don't see the answer.

739
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:46,820
Thanks, that's it.

740
00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:48,040
Thank you.

741
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:48,080
Thank you.

742
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,060
Thank you.

743
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,040
Thank you.

744
00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:58,540
We'll now move into our next time of new business, the essential air service contract.

745
00:58:59,180 --> 00:59:02,740
So just noting a couple things.

746
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:10,660
So we have three proposals for essential to provide essential air service for the out of

747
00:59:10,660 --> 00:59:11,900
the city of Lebanon airport.

748
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,940
We are going to hear each proposal.

749
00:59:15,140 --> 00:59:17,440
We're going to go in alphabetical order.

750
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,820
We aren't going to take public comment ahead of the presentations.

751
00:59:22,060 --> 00:59:25,780
We'll take input comments after all free applicants have presented.

752
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,920
All the comments and questions really should be addressed to the council and if there

753
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,080
are questions, we'll ensure that they're answered during the council discussion.

754
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:36,800
We will adhere to the three-minute rule, just given the number of people here.

755
00:59:37,060 --> 00:59:43,020
So we're requesting wherever possible to be brief and maybe into the extent possible to

756
00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:50,500
providing them at a date of comments. And I think we will, there's a number of people online,

757
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,200
so I don't think I can really do the show of hands for support, but you know, you can obviously

758
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,980
feel free to share your support for which group. But yeah, again, just...

759
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,940
I'm going to keep things moving forward in a judicious fashion. So with that, we will start with our first proposal, which I believe is boutique air. I'm getting the name right.

760
01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:17,930
All right, buddy. Give me a minute to get some air. No worries.

761
01:00:18,450 --> 01:00:21,430
I'm neck everybody. Nice to meet everybody up here.

762
01:00:21,590 --> 01:00:27,390
I was going to say if you give you a name and kind of, I guess, position with boutique air for our court and secretary who's online.

763
01:00:28,590 --> 01:00:31,670
She can't hear you, if you're not next to the microphone. She can't hear you.

764
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:38,610
Alright, hello everybody. My name is Nick Newsom. I am the assistant to you by the outlet with Uteek Air, Katie.

765
01:00:38,990 --> 01:00:46,430
Hi, I'm Katie. I'm a senior project manager and also the marketing director for Uteek Air.

766
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:50,130
Okay, what is your first name in the last name?

767
01:00:50,770 --> 01:00:52,710
Katie, I guard him.

768
01:00:53,070 --> 01:00:53,570
K-81.

769
01:00:55,090 --> 01:00:57,310
I-G-A-R-T-A.

770
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,800
It is give me one second. The internet is being a little bit slow for me.

771
01:01:20,180 --> 01:01:22,200
A little bit of awkward silence never heard in the body.

772
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:23,040
That's fine.

773
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:25,180
Yeah, just hit their mind.

774
01:01:29,370 --> 01:01:34,050
And actually, so while you're getting loaded up, just to note for our, our, our viewing audience.

775
01:01:35,570 --> 01:01:40,950
The, obviously, we go through this process every, you know, two to four years, depending on the length of the contract.

776
01:01:41,650 --> 01:01:49,270
So it's an interesting process wherein this is one step of the overall review and decision being made by the FAA.

777
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:57,470
So our purpose here is the city council tonight is to make a recommendation for who the city of Lebanon,

778
01:01:57,650 --> 01:02:02,530
who the council would like the city of Lebanon to see as the essential air services provider.

779
01:02:02,890 --> 01:02:05,270
But we don't actually make that final choice.

780
01:02:05,790 --> 01:02:09,770
So again, it's kind of like it's the FAA's way of getting stakeholder input.

781
01:02:09,770 --> 01:02:16,910
So, we hold the public hearing and they ask for an email, but it's this is, you know, our purpose here is the city council and I

782
01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:25,770
It's here the proposals and then make a decision on which essential air service provider we would like to recommend to the FAA for consideration

783
01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:28,450
And then they will do what they choose to do.

784
01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,810
Great breakdown. Yes. Yes.

785
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,520
All right there we go. That was perfect timing.

786
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,620
Yeah, it is now loading up finally actually

787
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:56,680
right now.

788
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:11,220
Yes, finally. Well, thank you guys for selecting at least we are putting in our bid here.

789
01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:14,540
Thanks for guys for at least listening to us here.

790
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,020
We're going to have a little bit of what we offer.

791
01:03:19,060 --> 01:03:26,840
Our aircraft is the PC12. It is a modern fleet with GPS approaches about 95% of all of our aircraft are now.

792
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,740
have freshly and fresh new paint, our ceilings are about 30,000 feet as you guys can see.

793
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,700
Can everybody hear me on the microphone pretty good? Sounds like I've got a little bit of feedback here. We're good.

794
01:03:39,460 --> 01:03:45,000
We have superb implement weather handling and the aircraft has been in production since 1994.

795
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:53,380
Kevin Class comfort and space. We also have the superb handling since we do have that modern design.

796
01:03:53,380 --> 01:03:56,200
It is pressurized and it's climate control.

797
01:03:56,540 --> 01:04:00,480
We have very fast aircraft roughly 300 miles per hour.

798
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,060
We get all the way up to about 289, which is roughly 300 miles per hour.

799
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,620
Our drag link gear creates a very smooth landing.

800
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,900
That 30,000 foot ceiling.

801
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,300
The reason that this is so has such a good safety rating.

802
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:45,360
Over the PT6 engine has had over 2,000 engines produced to 10 million plus flight hours logged, 47,000, sorry, 2,000 aircraft has been produced, the 47,000 PT6 engines have been produced and over 400 million hours logged in the aircraft.

803
01:04:46,660 --> 01:04:51,240
So it is the safest single turbine engine aircraft ever built.

804
01:04:54,810 --> 01:04:58,730
Since we do have a cabin class aircraft, it is 8 to 9 passengers.

805
01:04:59,290 --> 01:05:06,050
So we have in cabin storage space, a large TSA security cargo area, pressurized climate control as we said before,

806
01:05:06,350 --> 01:05:07,630
and also enclosed laboratory.

807
01:05:08,130 --> 01:05:10,310
It does not make it awkward if you do.

808
01:05:10,370 --> 01:05:12,990
How to use the rest of your monitor aircraft, everything is enclosed.

809
01:05:12,990 --> 01:05:16,090
It is actually people have used it before.

810
01:05:17,390 --> 01:05:20,630
What all of this means on the past couple slides

811
01:05:22,170 --> 01:05:25,350
means that over the current option we are more capable.

812
01:05:27,110 --> 01:05:30,390
We can get through whether we can get through

813
01:05:33,650 --> 01:05:38,350
other environmental factors that allow us to get up

814
01:05:38,350 --> 01:05:49,650
or around income at lower. Our reliability, big thing for us, 99.97% in 2025. It is steadily

815
01:05:49,650 --> 01:05:59,730
increased year over year about 0.3% in large part because of our director of operations

816
01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:06,610
in the back there. He has been very good at coordinating and making sure everything is

817
01:06:06,610 --> 01:06:13,490
smoothly. All of our aircraft on our on our flights 99.9% percent are

818
01:06:14,150 --> 01:06:21,170
flown two pilots. All of our training is done in aircraft. Our workforce, we do have strong

819
01:06:21,170 --> 01:06:25,970
reserves and we are regionally trained. We do have a large presence of aircraft out here.

820
01:06:26,110 --> 01:06:32,690
We are able to operate the Boston to machine aircraft. Our aircraft, we have multiple aircraft

821
01:06:32,690 --> 01:06:37,910
all the route. They are dedicated and they're also we do have regional recovery. Our mechanics,

822
01:06:38,730 --> 01:06:45,050
we support local mechanics first. We have a base in Dallas for our mechanics that are on

823
01:06:45,050 --> 01:06:54,610
staff, but we also do have a nationwide contract maintenance for nationwide. Our maintenance flow

824
01:06:54,610 --> 01:06:58,790
is if an aircraft goes down for maintenance,

825
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:13,570
contract maintenance is called first, if they can't fix it, we move to the next plane, then we send either a contract maintenance out there to fix the aircraft or send our personnel up if it's more of a bigger issue.

826
01:07:13,570 --> 01:07:14,490
Um,

827
01:07:19,110 --> 01:07:24,930
this is a view of our schedule, um, so in the bid, uh, we did, we did support, uh, two different

828
01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:30,110
bids. We had the 28 round trips and the 21 round trips. You guys can probably see both of

829
01:07:30,110 --> 01:07:36,410
those. Um, this is our 28 round trips. So you guys will, you guys will have the same service

830
01:07:36,410 --> 01:07:42,630
you have now, just in a more reliable basis. Um, this is just an example we can adjust these

831
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:50,670
as necessary. My self-cating and a deem actually flew in from the Boston area. Our flight

832
01:07:50,670 --> 01:07:57,770
time was roughly 35 minutes with a pretty strong headwind. So roughly 25 minutes, one way,

833
01:07:57,790 --> 01:07:59,990
35 minutes, another way, could be expected.

834
01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:06,700
Not only do we offer the EAS services, but we also offer

835
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:14,440
charter services. Why this is important? Dartmouth is out here. There is a large doctor

836
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:23,860
presence out in this area. We offer this for not just the doctors but CEOs and personal

837
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:31,140
business. What I've seen so far is that there is a lot of traffic out here, even from

838
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:39,600
the airport manager, Mr. Gross, he said that the airport itself operates much more charter

839
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:46,020
aircraft than it does EAS. That means that we will support places like Nentecate, Titoboro,

840
01:08:46,220 --> 01:08:50,120
and Martha's Vineyard. There's a lot of different places that we can get into there, which

841
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,620
is very important.

842
01:08:53,660 --> 01:09:00,180
We also offer a very large airline crew travel. If we do, if there is employees

843
01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:06,100
that work around here, Delta, United, Alaska, et cetera.

844
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,580
They can fly on our airlines.

845
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,960
They use the ID90, my ID Travel.

846
01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:13,840
We have 40 reciprocal airline travel agreements.

847
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,380
So if there isn't airline employees here,

848
01:09:17,780 --> 01:09:20,920
they can get on our airline using the standby privileges

849
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:21,820
very easily.

850
01:09:23,620 --> 01:09:25,080
For the upper value region,

851
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,900
there is a large population of pilots out here

852
01:09:28,900 --> 01:09:34,060
talk to several of them and they have said that yes they would they they would like to use

853
01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:41,440
us for the travel between here in Boston here in New York. And this this we offer increased

854
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:47,020
reliability and more options for local crews. This is where I'll hand it over to Katie.

855
01:09:47,660 --> 01:09:53,840
Okay I want to talk a little bit about our baggage fees so we have none we have no baggage fees we

856
01:09:53,840 --> 01:10:00,140
have no fees actually so I think we're the only carrier that offers that we have no baggage fees

857
01:10:00,140 --> 01:10:06,500
for any checked bag. We have no baggage fees for oversized baggage. We have no pet fees if you want

858
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:11,980
to bring your dog and we have no fees for an unaccompanied minor. So whatever you pay for

859
01:10:11,980 --> 01:10:16,840
the ticket is what you pay for the ticket. So it's not something that's going to be built in

860
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,320
when you check out and all these other fees are going to be there. The ticket price is the ticket price.

861
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,640
So that's something that I think is a little bit different from the other airlines bidding.

862
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:32,420
And then our fair would be $79 for both routes,

863
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:35,720
so whether it's white planes or Boston,

864
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:39,200
it's a $79 is our lowest guaranteed fair.

865
01:10:39,980 --> 01:10:42,660
Another thing that we have is a voucher program.

866
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:46,560
So you can buy vouchers at a set price,

867
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,800
and it's a book of 10.

868
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,680
So this applies to if an individual wants to buy them,

869
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,720
if a business wants to buy them,

870
01:10:54,720 --> 01:11:03,780
basically you buy a set set of vouchers at that same price and for one year it's good at that price

871
01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:10,240
for any flight that you book on this route. So if you bought a book of vouchers and you

872
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:15,940
wanted to fly tomorrow and you wanted the refundable fare, you wanted the very highest option,

873
01:11:16,380 --> 01:11:23,120
you can use your voucher that you paid your flat fee for. So that's a way that people if they want to

874
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:29,520
yourself, you get recurring passengers, but second off, you can ensure that they will always

875
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:38,260
get a reasonable fare. And then we have complimentary onboard beverages and snacks. We do

876
01:11:38,260 --> 01:11:45,240
have the mobile passport, you can do everything on your phone. If you guys have a season, season

877
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:52,840
only meant like something is really big here. So in one of our communities, Pendleton, they

878
01:11:52,840 --> 01:12:00,880
of Pendleton and Whiskey, that's that city and their rodeo is huge. So during that time there's

879
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:08,300
not enough flight so we add them so whatever they need we add extra flights seasonally and then

880
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:17,000
we do have customer service agents available 24-7 and they are all bilingual so they speak both

881
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:23,900
English and Spanish, every one of them, and then several of them also speak, I believe, French and Tagalog.

882
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:30,240
So we've got probably four or five languages and every single one at least speaks to.

883
01:12:31,740 --> 01:12:38,200
I think that's that one's all for that one. This is just a part of the people in our communities.

884
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:44,320
We know them personally. That's Erica and you know we become friends with the people in the communities.

885
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:51,040
So, not only do we participate in the communities and come and fly with their community members,

886
01:12:51,580 --> 01:12:54,320
but we're actively participating in the community.

887
01:12:54,820 --> 01:13:00,020
The same thing with Masina, we do their big, fast-fishing blowout.

888
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:04,160
I don't know if you guys are familiar, but they have a huge tournament on the St. Lawrence River.

889
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,360
And we participate and also provide flights to the winners.

890
01:13:09,620 --> 01:13:11,920
So we give prizes and things like that.

891
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:17,320
Now one thing that we started this year that I think could be mirrored here is we have an

892
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,180
official partnership with the universities.

893
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:26,720
So they are recommending to their students that we made them their own code for the students

894
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,220
and the students' families.

895
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:34,600
So this pairs really nicely with our no fees because we've done this in other cities.

896
01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:40,980
When we have university or college students that need to go back and forth for a low cost,

897
01:13:40,980 --> 01:13:51,600
Not having fees, you know, if you want to bring a dorm room, a college kid doesn't necessarily have a ton of furniture, but they've got bags, and you can bring those on our our planes.

898
01:13:51,940 --> 01:14:00,940
And if we can't fit it on that flight, they can bring it early. We'll send it early on on a different flight or we'll send it later on a later flight.

899
01:14:00,940 --> 01:14:03,700
But this is something we've done with the university.

900
01:14:04,340 --> 01:14:06,640
Their students are guaranteed the same rate.

901
01:14:06,860 --> 01:14:08,400
It's sort of like buying a voucher,

902
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,760
but it's not a voucher.

903
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,320
It's just something that we have made specifically

904
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,960
for the university students.

905
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,800
And they're really happy with that.

906
01:14:16,980 --> 01:14:20,280
So that's another way to partner with your community

907
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,020
that I think would be very valuable to this community

908
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:24,600
specifically.

909
01:14:25,620 --> 01:14:26,640
All right, thank you, Katie.

910
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:34,840
We are on all the search engines, so we're going to come up on Travelocity, Expedia, all

911
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:40,660
everywhere you look for flight, we will come up and then, next slide, we also have the

912
01:14:40,660 --> 01:14:41,220
inner lines.

913
01:14:41,620 --> 01:14:46,340
As you guys, I'm sure you're aware, your bags get transferred, we have access to change the

914
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:46,660
tickets.

915
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:53,060
If something happened with your flight on United, or we can also make that seamless for you

916
01:14:53,060 --> 01:14:58,620
to where you're not dealing with booking a bunch of different flights with different airlines.

917
01:15:00,110 --> 01:15:11,850
You can book everything all the way through, your badge will get transferred. And that works out really nicely. And I think everybody has interline, but I just wanted to remind you, we also have that.

918
01:15:13,790 --> 01:15:31,450
All right. Well, so why boutique here? I'm going to back out just a little bit. I did make a, I need to make a correction for our schedule. We did propose 42 and 35 round trips. So I didn't include the white plants. So we do offer that as well. So we're off from the same service that you guys have now.

919
01:15:31,710 --> 01:15:34,350
just with the better reliability. That is the only change.

920
01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:41,610
So why us again, turbine and PC12 safety? We also have uniformity.

921
01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:45,030
We don't operate other aircraft. We only have the PC12.

922
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:50,370
All of our pilots fly the PC12 every single day that is all they fly.

923
01:15:50,410 --> 01:15:54,590
Our mechanics work on the PC12 that is all they work on at the moment.

924
01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:57,050
We have flexibility in our operations.

925
01:15:57,050 --> 01:16:00,030
we have aircraft at multiple locations.

926
01:16:01,090 --> 01:16:06,350
We can operate with those executive charters,

927
01:16:06,610 --> 01:16:09,630
those CEO charters, et cetera.

928
01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:15,850
Our efficiency and speed, the PC-12 is efficient

929
01:16:15,850 --> 01:16:18,390
and it is fast when we go 300 miles an hour.

930
01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:22,670
Like I said, 25 and 35 minutes between Boston and here.

931
01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:24,790
I did it.

932
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:37,810
We enhanced the local workforce by increasing maintenance here that they can also use, not just their piston engine training, so as far as like A&P mechanics, I'm also an A&P mechanic.

933
01:16:38,010 --> 01:16:45,970
Having that turbine experience would be extreme for not just the hour airline, but the community itself.

934
01:16:46,170 --> 01:16:53,190
We would bring in that added added maybe just that added little thing that you guys might want.

935
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:55,810
the increased business growth.

936
01:16:56,110 --> 01:17:01,350
Instead of the operations going out to other companies,

937
01:17:01,590 --> 01:17:05,310
it'll come here and you guys will see more traffic

938
01:17:05,310 --> 01:17:07,010
on boutique on our delivery.

939
01:17:07,470 --> 01:17:08,730
It won't be just at the terminal.

940
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:10,650
It'll be over at the FBOs.

941
01:17:10,710 --> 01:17:11,470
It'll be in and out.

942
01:17:11,470 --> 01:17:12,390
You'll see them go everywhere.

943
01:17:13,550 --> 01:17:18,730
Whether it blends, we get up and around whether we do this

944
01:17:18,730 --> 01:17:22,390
all the time and we still offer our shuttle services.

945
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:27,310
If in the event that something goes wrong, we have a shuttle service so you guys don't have to take that

946
01:17:27,310 --> 01:17:30,230
Dartmouth shuttle from what I've heard had to has happened before.

947
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:36,590
Pricing and fees are route pricing for Boston and white planes is the same.

948
01:17:36,810 --> 01:17:39,970
No matter if you're going to Boston or you're going to white planes, we offer that.

949
01:17:40,010 --> 01:17:41,930
We know that that does change with other operators.

950
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:45,790
Our pricing and our checked baggage fees like what Katie said.

951
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:53,510
At those together, I've talked to my veterans at the Veterans Association, I've talked to Dartmouth,

952
01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:58,470
I've talked to local business operators and they say that they need something cheaper.

953
01:17:59,110 --> 01:18:03,610
They need to be able to get the Boston for a better price.

954
01:18:03,950 --> 01:18:07,110
This is what we offer. You buy the ticket, that's what you get.

955
01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:14,230
I have several unaccompanied minors that I fly over in Pendleton that during our last bid,

956
01:18:14,230 --> 01:18:24,910
They were very upset there that there was the possibility they were going to go to another airline and they weren't going to be able to see me and they were and they were going to have to pay a large fee to get for one place to another

957
01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:29,230
Our frequency is seven days a week for both

958
01:18:30,910 --> 01:18:35,950
Boston and white lanes. We that's that those are the routes that we offered. We did offer them a different frequencies

959
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:40,590
It is up to you guys if you guys want I saw that the Lebanon does have that

960
01:18:40,590 --> 01:18:47,670
that feature on the website, it's very important for the community to say what they want.

961
01:18:49,530 --> 01:18:56,150
And lastly, we have seen the current capabilities. This is not a dig on Cape Air, but we just

962
01:18:56,150 --> 01:18:59,090
exceed them. That is the aircraft they operate. This is the aircraft we operate.

963
01:19:01,410 --> 01:19:06,850
If you guys have any questions, or if you guys would like to talk to us more, here's our

964
01:19:06,850 --> 01:19:11,470
information. Throughout the slide, you saw this QR code. If you guys had any information on it,

965
01:19:11,530 --> 01:19:17,310
you guys that is a QR code directly to the DOT's website. I'll leave it up to anybody's questions.

966
01:19:17,570 --> 01:19:19,830
If you guys have any. Council's questions.

967
01:19:24,830 --> 01:19:28,790
Seeing none, we'll move on to the next presentation. Thank you,

968
01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:32,810
both. Thank you. Appreciate you coming out. So next up, we have K-Pair.

969
01:19:58,380 --> 01:19:59,440
Good evening, everybody.

970
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:02,840
Thank you for your time today, and for us to present.

971
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,840
My name is Michael Glory.

972
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,680
I am the president and CEO of Cape Air,

973
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,980
and I've been with them for almost 16 years,

974
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:12,920
16 years and a couple of weeks.

975
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,060
Also, joining me today are a handful of folks

976
01:20:17,060 --> 01:20:19,760
from leadership that I'd like for them to introduce themselves.

977
01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:23,000
Hello, my name is Chuck Ferrara.

978
01:20:23,140 --> 01:20:26,080
I'm the vice president of corporate and airport affairs.

979
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,460
I don't exactly know what that title means,

980
01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:30,240
but I've had it for a little bit.

981
01:20:30,780 --> 01:20:32,920
35 years, I've worked with Cape Air.

982
01:20:33,460 --> 01:20:35,200
So I was hired when I was three.

983
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,600
Before they started cracking down on those things,

984
01:20:39,740 --> 01:20:40,480
I had Boston.

985
01:20:41,060 --> 01:20:43,520
I have been here for several of these presentations

986
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,200
and learned how to say Lebanon in this room.

987
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,860
Much of the secret of my friend, who grew up in Beirut,

988
01:20:52,820 --> 01:20:55,680
who says, don't say when is the next trip

989
01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:01,520
I'm taking to Lebanon, it's Lebanon, so I have to make that distinction when I talk to him.

990
01:21:01,740 --> 01:21:02,960
It's going to be with you again.

991
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:04,080
Hello.

992
01:21:04,380 --> 01:21:07,820
My name is Rebecca Chase, I'm the Director of Marketing, here I came there.

993
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,640
And I've been with a couple of me for two and a half years.

994
01:21:13,220 --> 01:21:13,760
Good evening.

995
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,880
My name is Katie Stone.

996
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:17,240
I'm a CEO of I've been with a couple of me.

997
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,100
I'm a family on the lowest market manager.

998
01:21:22,340 --> 01:21:24,460
And I've been with Kate there for two and a half years.

999
01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:29,460
Do you think Steve Phillips, director of operations, would have taken 31 years?

1000
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,740
You're a regional manager, but I don't care if I are 20 years.

1001
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,640
We're going to make your station manager further.

1002
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,740
I'm going to take care for three years.

1003
01:21:42,620 --> 01:21:43,120
Thanks, guys.

1004
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,520
As you can see, we have every department covered here at Cape Air.

1005
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,300
So please, if you have any questions or any presentation, somebody should know the answer.

1006
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:56,740
We've had the privilege of serving Lebanon for 18 years.

1007
01:21:56,740 --> 01:22:00,060
And we feel like we're actually a part of the community.

1008
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,240
We have 19 employees that live and work here.

1009
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,460
Five of our airport services folks,

1010
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,060
the ones that greet our passengers with a smile every day,

1011
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,760
work at the airport and live here.

1012
01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:13,960
We have two technicians that do an amazing job,

1013
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,560
keeping their craft running if there's any problems,

1014
01:22:16,900 --> 01:22:18,740
they live here and we have 12 pilots.

1015
01:22:19,220 --> 01:22:23,000
And most of them do live here in the Upper Valley,

1016
01:22:23,540 --> 01:22:26,480
Some of them are based here, but I'm a majority of them do live here.

1017
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:31,240
You have three great presentations tonight.

1018
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:32,940
From three great airlines.

1019
01:22:33,540 --> 01:22:35,420
You'll never hear us talk about each other, right?

1020
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:37,600
We compete, but we have to respect for each other.

1021
01:22:38,060 --> 01:22:41,160
But I think what you'll see the difference from us today

1022
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:45,740
is that we're not going to promise what we can do in the next two to four years.

1023
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,240
We're going to show you what we've actually done over the last 18 years

1024
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,780
and how what we've accomplished together.

1025
01:22:55,480 --> 01:23:00,960
We are proud of what we've built here together with Lebanon.

1026
01:23:02,300 --> 01:23:07,220
And we would love to continue flying here for the next couple of years.

1027
01:23:11,260 --> 01:23:13,500
So since we've basically grew up together, right?

1028
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:17,840
We've been in business for 37 years, we've been here for 18 years.

1029
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,760
What I want to point out is that we serve communities like Lebanon

1030
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:31,180
for more than 37 years, but in business since 1989, and we are the New England local airline.

1031
01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:34,560
Our Northeast region, our New England region, is our largest.

1032
01:23:35,180 --> 01:23:39,600
We have 17 different locations that we serve out of New England.

1033
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,820
Our headquarters is in Pianas, Massachusetts, just a thome throw away.

1034
01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:48,160
As you can see with the delegation here, it's very easy for us to get here.

1035
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:54,120
We also serve the Caribbean, 12 locations out of the Caribbean, and then our Montana region.

1036
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,300
We have five locations out of buildings, and that's all EAS.

1037
01:24:01,910 --> 01:24:07,930
So when we talk about reliability, we're not just focused on reliability, we deliver reliability.

1038
01:24:09,210 --> 01:24:16,370
Our company-controlled completion rate, year to date, 2026, is 99.6%.

1039
01:24:16,370 --> 01:24:21,150
But also, if you look up at the graph, it shows that it's not just your date.

1040
01:24:21,290 --> 01:24:27,670
Over the last 13 months, our company controllable is the exact same thing, 99.6.

1041
01:24:28,710 --> 01:24:32,510
Right? That consistency doesn't come by happenstance.

1042
01:24:33,470 --> 01:24:40,050
It comes from our dedicated employees that are there to make sure our passengers get to the destinations

1043
01:24:40,050 --> 01:24:41,690
they need to get to.

1044
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:47,250
And not only do we want to get them there, we want to get them there on time.

1045
01:24:48,330 --> 01:24:54,750
Because it doesn't help if we get somebody there, and they miss their connection, they miss their appointment.

1046
01:24:55,830 --> 01:25:05,550
And I'm proud to say that Cape Air was the number one North American on-time airline the last three months, March, April and May.

1047
01:25:05,870 --> 01:25:07,070
And I know it's small up there.

1048
01:25:07,730 --> 01:25:16,970
But the industry average is 8% and this is as of May, Cape Air was 86.4% on-time performance.

1049
01:25:16,970 --> 01:25:19,630
We're very, very proud of this performance.

1050
01:25:23,060 --> 01:25:27,960
I'm going to have my colleague, Chuck, talk about what is connections mean.

1051
01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:33,680
If Boston is your destination, then you know how close Logan Airport is to the city of Boston.

1052
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,820
It's a great airport to get in and out of the city from, to and from.

1053
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,880
But if Boston is not your destination, then you're looking to make connections.

1054
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,620
Logan offers the world to you.

1055
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,340
Through our interline partners, we have

1056
01:25:49,380 --> 01:25:53,380
relationships with carriers that you see here on the graph, particularly Delta

1057
01:25:53,380 --> 01:26:00,300
JetBlue, American and United, who provide about 77% of the seats going on

1058
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:06,460
at Boston. So it's a significant market share that Cape area is connected to. So if

1059
01:26:06,460 --> 01:26:12,100
you're looking to go from Leb to Boston to wherever these airlines are all in

1060
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:16,240
partnership with us and we've worked very hard over the years to develop those

1061
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:21,820
partnerships and continue to explore partnerships with other airlines as they make a presence

1062
01:26:21,820 --> 01:26:29,620
at Logan Airport in Boston. Speaking of Logan Airport in Boston, okay. He signs the check.

1063
01:26:29,860 --> 01:26:37,400
So I have to defer whenever I get that look. Speaking of Boston, you know, my long career with

1064
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:42,660
Cape Ear has been spent not a headquarters, but at Logan Airport. So when I first started, we were

1065
01:26:42,660 --> 01:26:45,540
surely the little fish in the big pond, right?

1066
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:48,080
Capu, what are you talking about?

1067
01:26:48,460 --> 01:26:50,900
What are these little things you fly around?

1068
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:51,940
Are you serious?

1069
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,400
You won't be around very long.

1070
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,700
And I've outlived many of those managers who've moved

1071
01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:00,860
on to other things.

1072
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,380
But we are a significant player at Logan Airport.

1073
01:27:04,620 --> 01:27:06,900
And we have a lot of operations there

1074
01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:09,380
and have been a solid presence at Logan

1075
01:27:09,380 --> 01:27:11,760
for almost four decades.

1076
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:19,680
It is not an easy airport to plant roots and it's it's it's locked in geographically this space is

1077
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:27,880
Not vast and is coveted by lots of airlines. So when you can plant an operation at Logan Airport

1078
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,860
It's no small feet and I'm very proud my mom and used to say now honey

1079
01:27:32,860 --> 01:27:38,220
She's from New Orleans. Nobody likes to hear anybody talk about how good they are about anything

1080
01:27:38,220 --> 01:27:45,600
Even if you're all kind of good about it. So forgive this hubris, but I'm very proud of what we've done at Logan Airport

1081
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:52,840
We have a fabulous operation right in the center of the airport. We're in terminal C at Gates

1082
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,660
27 and 33

1083
01:27:55,180 --> 01:28:02,020
we do amazing things and a very small plot of land at Logan and you can connect to

1084
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:12,340
to terminals B and the operations in C and in the international terminal all without going through

1085
01:28:12,340 --> 01:28:17,060
security you get. It took us a while to get there and we have a great home there and a great

1086
01:28:17,060 --> 01:28:23,880
reputation there. I will say that Delta is a little bit different but we're working on it. Delta is

1087
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,740
in a separate terminal and it is not yet connected so any of you will flow in us and have connected

1088
01:28:28,740 --> 01:28:33,740
the Delta, you know that that is the one outlier, but we're pressing and there is a plan

1089
01:28:33,740 --> 01:28:39,440
to connect now terminal A with the rest of the terminal. So it will be seamless with all

1090
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:44,300
of Logan Airport. So I'm very proud of where we are at Boston and I think it's super convenient.

1091
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:52,220
This is a picture that just shows you of what our connectivity means when you're online looking

1092
01:28:52,220 --> 01:28:56,900
to make connection. So let's say you want to go from Lebanon to Fort Lauderdale and you're on Jet

1093
01:28:56,900 --> 01:29:02,840
You go to JetBlue's website, if you wish, and you put in starting and live, want to go to

1094
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:07,500
a lot of detail, and it pops up for you something that looks like this.

1095
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:08,660
And the same is there.

1096
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:14,060
We've given you examples with Delta to LA, American to Chicago, and United to Newark.

1097
01:29:14,820 --> 01:29:15,400
Yeah, please.

1098
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,720
So I think what's important here, right, it's a busy slide.

1099
01:29:18,980 --> 01:29:24,340
But we have interline or co-chair with JetBlue Delta, American and United.

1100
01:29:24,340 --> 01:29:30,360
And I think what's important, whether you're booking from Lebanon, going someplace or someplace

1101
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:35,560
to Lebanon, on all of the major websites, there's going to be a drop-down for Lebanon

1102
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,100
and Hampshire.

1103
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:36,960
Right?

1104
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,920
And it's a single-artinerary, seamless connection.

1105
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:40,820
Go ahead.

1106
01:29:41,060 --> 01:29:46,960
You book your, you check your bag at the first destination, it arrives at your final destination.

1107
01:29:47,420 --> 01:29:50,920
So it's really important to have these partnerships with the majors.

1108
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:58,140
And then our goal is to make it easy to book and easy to connect, so we have distribution

1109
01:29:58,140 --> 01:29:59,980
systems, these names may or may not mean it.

1110
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,200
We think to you, in terms of the top row, it's kind of airline, nerd, stuff, savor, omidayas, travel port,

1111
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:12,020
rural span. These are global distribution systems that we are participating in, so that agencies,

1112
01:30:12,260 --> 01:30:21,140
travel agencies, and other travel professionals can access the Cape beer flight network. And then we have online travel platforms, which you're

1113
01:30:21,140 --> 01:30:26,920
from the UIT, Expedia, Pricine, Orbits, Travelocity, Kayak Copper, and we have a relationship

1114
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:31,700
also with the MX, you know, a little company that you may have heard of there for corporate

1115
01:30:31,700 --> 01:30:36,520
travel, travel agencies. And then finally we do have relationships with loyalty programs

1116
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,720
that many of the majors. These are some of the programs that you may already be participating

1117
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:47,660
in yourselves. I could never explain them all because I don't understand them all, but there

1118
01:30:47,660 --> 01:30:49,860
There are elements to each of these programs

1119
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:52,960
and Capegar has fostered relationships with these carriers

1120
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,860
and these programs, such that it benefits the traveler.

1121
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,900
Thanks, Chuck. Appreciate it.

1122
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:03,660
You know, Bootie touched on this.

1123
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:08,100
I think our biggest advantage is our frequency, period.

1124
01:31:08,980 --> 01:31:15,420
Four daily flights to Boston, two daily flights to New York.

1125
01:31:15,420 --> 01:31:20,800
provides more opportunity for travelers, more flexibility for travelers.

1126
01:31:21,900 --> 01:31:30,080
And I think this really kind of points it out when you look at our schedule versus say a contour schedule with the larger plane.

1127
01:31:30,380 --> 01:31:34,380
This is our actual schedule, right? So six daily flights.

1128
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,080
We have two flights in the morning, right? The 7 a.m.

1129
01:31:43,260 --> 01:31:43,260
hour,

1130
01:31:43,260 --> 01:31:45,860
And then we have three additional flights in the afternoon,

1131
01:31:46,660 --> 01:31:49,340
Boston, New York, and then Boston.

1132
01:31:50,140 --> 01:31:51,440
And it makes a huge difference

1133
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:53,920
when you're trying to get some place for the time you want.

1134
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:55,960
So the flexibility is amazing.

1135
01:31:56,340 --> 01:31:58,760
When you look over at the options that contour,

1136
01:31:59,380 --> 01:32:03,340
they have limited to one, possibly two flights

1137
01:32:03,340 --> 01:32:05,500
a day depending on which day it is.

1138
01:32:08,060 --> 01:32:10,420
And our proposal provides the most seats.

1139
01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:13,300
And this is no fall of contour, right?

1140
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:17,000
the DOT regulates based on the number of seats that you have,

1141
01:32:17,380 --> 01:32:20,220
how many weekly departures that you can have.

1142
01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:25,600
We have 42 weekly departures going out compared to,

1143
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,920
you know, a 30-seat, which can only have 12 weekly departures.

1144
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,220
So our advantage is we actually have more seats

1145
01:32:33,220 --> 01:32:36,660
into 11 on every single week, five percent more.

1146
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:39,500
All right, so our capacity and our flexibility

1147
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,620
has an advantage.

1148
01:32:43,830 --> 01:32:47,550
And then you take the Cape Air White Plains New York City connector.

1149
01:32:48,450 --> 01:32:53,930
We started flying Lebanon back in 2008 and very quickly the community came and says,

1150
01:32:54,130 --> 01:32:55,490
you need to get us to New York.

1151
01:32:56,110 --> 01:33:01,770
So we came up with this very elegant solution where Cape Air has a complementary private

1152
01:33:01,770 --> 01:33:07,790
shuttle that connects passengers between white planes and downtown Manhattan in less than

1153
01:33:07,790 --> 01:33:08,310
an hour.

1154
01:33:10,570 --> 01:33:13,710
And what's great about it is, this is actually connected to your

1155
01:33:13,710 --> 01:33:14,210
itinerary.

1156
01:33:14,530 --> 01:33:17,350
So no matter what traffic is, you're not going to miss your flight.

1157
01:33:18,050 --> 01:33:23,190
Back in 2010, we partnered with Dashway and the owner, I think, is here at Mr. Allen

1158
01:33:23,190 --> 01:33:23,550
Joseph.

1159
01:33:24,350 --> 01:33:24,750
It's Joseph.

1160
01:33:24,790 --> 01:33:26,170
Thank you so much for your partnership.

1161
01:33:26,370 --> 01:33:28,050
We really appreciate it.

1162
01:33:28,050 --> 01:33:32,410
We've been doing business with them for 16 years and it's been amazing and our passengers

1163
01:33:32,410 --> 01:33:33,890
absolutely love it.

1164
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,440
At this point, I want to turn over to RECCA, Director of Marketing.

1165
01:33:40,700 --> 01:33:43,320
Again, my name is RECCA, Director of Marketing for Cape There.

1166
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,680
At Cape There, Marketing is not just advertising, it's showing up for the communities that

1167
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:48,020
we serve.

1168
01:33:48,340 --> 01:33:53,140
We are proud members of the UVBA, and sponsor events like Leb Fess and Reader's Choice

1169
01:33:53,140 --> 01:33:53,540
Awards.

1170
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:57,980
We just recently participated in the Lebanon Middle School's job shadow day in partnership

1171
01:33:57,980 --> 01:33:59,360
with Carl Gross in the airport.

1172
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:00,480
Thank you, Carl.

1173
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:06,980
We've also increased our annual budget from $65,000 to $110,000.

1174
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,860
And what's important to us is spending those dollars locally.

1175
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,360
We partner with local radio stations like

1176
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,620
Great Eastern Radio, New Hampshire Public Radio.

1177
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,880
We advertise and local publications like the Dartmouth Alumni

1178
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,440
Magazine and Valley News.

1179
01:34:21,980 --> 01:34:24,440
We also advertise nationally through Nusson

1180
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:25,980
during Red Sox and Greensgames.

1181
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,020
We've made countless donations to help your fundraising efforts.

1182
01:34:30,020 --> 01:34:32,800
We are your partner, call upon us and we will answer.

1183
01:34:34,060 --> 01:34:34,500
Thank you.

1184
01:34:34,620 --> 01:34:37,000
I have to reiterate what Rebecca said, right?

1185
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,460
We know how important marketing is to the region to Lebanon.

1186
01:34:40,940 --> 01:34:45,780
We've increased our yearly budget from $65 to $110,000 a year.

1187
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:54,620
So in summary, why do we believe that Cape Are is still the right choice for Lebanon?

1188
01:34:54,620 --> 01:35:02,800
The first and foremost is reliability, 99.6% completion rate for the last 13 months.

1189
01:35:03,580 --> 01:35:06,780
Number one, on time, airline for the last three months.

1190
01:35:07,660 --> 01:35:09,340
And this is what we do well.

1191
01:35:09,620 --> 01:35:12,140
We flew across all the system.

1192
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,940
We flew over 90,000 flights for Cape Bear.

1193
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,100
Communities like this is what we provide servers to when we do it well.

1194
01:35:19,940 --> 01:35:20,680
Strong connectivity.

1195
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:29,860
Right, one ticket, seamless access, 150 destinations that you can connect to, both international and domestic coming out of Boston.

1196
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:36,140
And of course, as I mentioned, direct access to New York with our great private shuttle service to downtown Manhattan.

1197
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,800
And then last but not least, is our community commitment.

1198
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:41,340
You know, we support our communities.

1199
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:47,100
We hire local, as Rebecca said, community engagement is very important to us.

1200
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:51,260
We have 19 employees that work here in Lebanon.

1201
01:35:51,940 --> 01:35:54,840
Our flexible schedule, our high frequency service.

1202
01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,820
So, I just want to reiterate, thank you once again,

1203
01:35:58,180 --> 01:35:59,680
really appreciate your time.

1204
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:05,160
We want to show you that we're not here to promise what we can do.

1205
01:36:05,500 --> 01:36:10,200
We've been serving Lebanon in proud of it for the last 18 years.

1206
01:36:12,260 --> 01:36:13,100
Thank you very much.

1207
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:14,160
Open up any questions.

1208
01:36:14,780 --> 01:36:16,100
Yeah, thanks. Just a couple of questions.

1209
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:21,680
So when you did this presentation as I was like four years ago, you're just starting to bring in the technums

1210
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,040
So are those now the main

1211
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:30,240
Flare you still doing the sesanas we're doing a little bit of both okay, so we have 30 tech them and we schedule

1212
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:35,600
the tech them 100% of the time sometimes there's mechanical issues and so

1213
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:44,560
What we do we would much rather backfill with the 402 and cancel flight so you do see the sesna 402s in here and out

1214
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:45,720
Several times too

1215
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:56,860
And I know if the tech knows ARC is I walk through one of them four years ago, but can you just give a kind of an overview of the features of the tech and I'm just so

1216
01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:00,120
Everyone's kind of aware of the main plane that you're using

1217
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:05,960
And what type of just like the features what it you know again like you kind of touched on that it has nine seats

1218
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:13,500
But in terms of like storage seating of you know just sure. Yeah, so two seats up front for the pilots nine seats the back

1219
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:19,260
And if you've been in it, it's it's much bigger much more roomier customers absolutely love it

1220
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:24,580
It's got the amenities where you have the USB port that's in there, you know, a couple

1221
01:37:24,580 --> 01:37:31,460
there's it's just much, much newer than our 402, which is like information on the performance of it.

1222
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:36,680
Yeah, yeah, if you can also talk about, yeah, kind of the overall performance, you know, reliability.

1223
01:37:37,620 --> 01:37:39,100
It's a single turbo, probably.

1224
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:41,080
No, it's a dual turbo thing, thank you.

1225
01:37:41,380 --> 01:37:44,860
If you want one, I'm going to bring up my D.O. and talk a little bit about the performance.

1226
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:45,780
Would you mind?

1227
01:37:45,900 --> 01:37:46,100
I would.

1228
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:52,140
He's a hot of all our pilots, he flies it every day, so I'm just grab an available mic.

1229
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:55,040
Thank you, David, thanks for having us here today.

1230
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:56,400
The tech room is a great airplane.

1231
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:02,760
I was a part of the original cadre that went over to Italy to get trained on it by their two-pause.

1232
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,700
So we were basically the first civilians to operate it, and we developed our own training program.

1233
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:09,580
It's a really reliable airplane.

1234
01:38:09,580 --> 01:38:15,900
And it has, like I said, night seats in the back and two dedicated pilot seats has got the

1235
01:38:15,900 --> 01:38:23,420
most advanced avionics up front with a new Garmin 1000 EX, so it's all glass and digital

1236
01:38:23,420 --> 01:38:28,720
latest avionics, including weather radar and GPS.

1237
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:34,640
So we have that contributes to the situational awareness of all the pilots terrain avoidance

1238
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,640
and weather avoidance as well.

1239
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:42,100
So we found it very reliable with the pilots and enjoy flying it,

1240
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,720
because it's a very good situation where airplane.

1241
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:47,340
Any other questions about their performance?

1242
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,880
The speed is very similar to the 402.

1243
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:53,000
Councillor, there's questions.

1244
01:38:56,490 --> 01:38:57,330
Yeah, Councillor Colt.

1245
01:38:57,410 --> 01:39:00,870
What is the price of a ticket from Lebanon to Boston?

1246
01:39:01,490 --> 01:39:03,550
I think our lowest price is $59.

1247
01:39:05,310 --> 01:39:07,630
I think in the bid, we put $79.

1248
01:39:07,630 --> 01:39:11,690
but our lowest price right now is 59 and they're teared, you know, as it

1249
01:39:11,690 --> 01:39:17,510
books up and it goes up to, um, um, uh, and did you say to Boston? Yeah. Yeah, to

1250
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:21,250
Boston a little bit different between Boston and White Plains. Sure. So, but it

1251
01:39:21,250 --> 01:39:22,070
starts at $59.

1252
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,980
How's this any other questions? All right, Jim. Thank you. Great.

1253
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:37,120
Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. All right. And next we have...

1254
01:39:56,220 --> 01:39:57,000
Thank you for the time this evening. We're so excited about this community. For my presentation today, I kind of want to go through two sections.

1255
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:57,760
Thank you.

1256
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:58,600
Good evening.

1257
01:39:59,580 --> 01:40:00,800
Good evening. Mayor City Manager.

1258
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,660
Councillor Stanky so much for the time here today.

1259
01:40:05,180 --> 01:40:08,500
My name is Ben Munson. I'm the President of Contouralance.

1260
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:09,760
And this is Chris.

1261
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,160
Hello, Chris Andy. I'm the corporate controller work on the finance student contour.

1262
01:40:14,500 --> 01:40:16,600
Thank you so much for the time this evening.

1263
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,700
We're so excited about this community for my presentation today.

1264
01:40:20,980 --> 01:40:22,660
I kind of want to go through two sections.

1265
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,020
The first is to tell you a little bit who contour is.

1266
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,780
And then the second is specifically two focus on our plan for 11 in this community.

1267
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:34,180
But maybe you can just back up the title.

1268
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,960
I think something that's really important just to isolate immediately.

1269
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,700
That is distinct.

1270
01:40:38,740 --> 01:40:41,780
And I think it's a question for this body and for the community.

1271
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,220
If it's something that makes sense with contour versus some of the other

1272
01:40:45,220 --> 01:40:50,980
that we have here today is the type of aircraft that we're interested in bringing into the airport here in Lebanon.

1273
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,920
This is a picture of it here. This is aircraft 501. It's an embryo regional jet.

1274
01:40:56,100 --> 01:41:03,620
Our entire central air service network is supported by regional jet aircraft configured with 30 seats.

1275
01:41:03,620 --> 01:41:08,960
And I'll get into some detail about that today. And that means some different things in terms of destination opportunities

1276
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,420
in terms of the number of seats you can bring into the community.

1277
01:41:12,060 --> 01:41:21,020
as well as the amount of passengers that actually can utilize service, and it's these things combined that make us really excited about the potential of the servo Lebanon and the upper belt.

1278
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,880
So maybe first a little bit about us, our history.

1279
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,280
We're based in Nashville, Tennessee, through both Chris and I live.

1280
01:41:29,900 --> 01:41:31,620
We've been around for actually a long time.

1281
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:39,460
Company was founded in 1982, and for about the first 30 years of the business, I'm going to focus a little bit more on the charter side.

1282
01:41:39,460 --> 01:41:41,280
That's still a big part of what we do.

1283
01:41:41,440 --> 01:41:43,920
It's probably about 30% of our business.

1284
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,420
Being a national, we get a lot of music industry type stuff.

1285
01:41:47,500 --> 01:41:49,100
We've got a Sesame Association fleet.

1286
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:50,820
They rotate through the North East quite a bit.

1287
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,140
I think in addition to this community,

1288
01:41:54,420 --> 01:41:58,300
but about 70% of our business is now on the air-wide side.

1289
01:41:58,300 --> 01:42:01,380
And that's something that's really evolved over the last 10 years.

1290
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,180
When there was an ownership change at our organization,

1291
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,400
and there was an interest in building in new model,

1292
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,920
specifically like four communities like this one.

1293
01:42:10,220 --> 01:42:12,340
That could introduce regional jets.

1294
01:42:12,540 --> 01:42:14,980
Do it in a way that doesn't put a burden on the airport

1295
01:42:14,980 --> 01:42:17,140
and create a different level of connectivity

1296
01:42:17,140 --> 01:42:20,440
and lower fairs and then communities like this one

1297
01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:21,880
where we're able to receive.

1298
01:42:22,380 --> 01:42:24,860
And we've been very successful and growing our network

1299
01:42:24,860 --> 01:42:25,900
and building our partnerships

1300
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:28,500
and growing traffic in the communities that we serve.

1301
01:42:30,820 --> 01:42:33,620
Speaking a little bit about the hard product,

1302
01:42:33,620 --> 01:42:48,780
First, so I mentioned where we would bring in the Embraer Regional Jet into this airport, if selected, that aircraft is built for anywhere from 37 to 50 seats, so we have a couple different variations of it.

1303
01:42:48,860 --> 01:42:57,760
They all use the same pilots, same maintenance support networks, same parts on the airplane, but we actually de-densify the cabin down to 30 seats.

1304
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:03,300
still considerable increase than what's in the market today, but what that does is it makes for a

1305
01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:08,840
very comfortable cabin experience. And so effectively from a seat pitch, what you're getting is like

1306
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:15,840
36 to 37 inches of pitch, that's kind of like the premium cabin of a of a larger regional jet aircraft,

1307
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:22,140
one of our main line partners, and it's two by one seating. So really nice, if you're an individual

1308
01:43:22,140 --> 01:43:27,640
traveling or a couple family, it's easy for folks to sit together as well and very comfortable

1309
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:34,600
set up. I'm going to have a true cabinet class experience as well. So we've got two pilots on board. We've

1310
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:39,460
gotten so proud of our inflight team. We've got a wonderful group of flight attendants to take care of our

1311
01:43:39,460 --> 01:43:45,160
passengers and just deliver, I think, a more traditional airline experience into this community.

1312
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:51,440
Outside of the comfort that that comes with with a flight attendant, food and beverage service on board,

1313
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:56,720
this is also an aircraft type that we've seen transform the type of people that can take advantage

1314
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,560
of regional air service in their community.

1315
01:43:59,940 --> 01:44:01,900
Folks that might have mobility challenges,

1316
01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:03,360
we're going to be bringing a ramp,

1317
01:44:03,660 --> 01:44:06,740
and it's a lot easier to get those individuals

1318
01:44:06,740 --> 01:44:10,220
comfortably on board and off the aircraft,

1319
01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:12,720
and that's making travel for folks.

1320
01:44:13,220 --> 01:44:14,800
A lot of the communities that we serve,

1321
01:44:15,060 --> 01:44:20,020
a lot easier to do than before we've come into the community.

1322
01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:25,180
Here's a snapshot of our network,

1323
01:44:25,180 --> 01:44:27,960
really proud of what we've built.

1324
01:44:28,620 --> 01:44:33,140
We've now got about 30 regional jets in the dedicated to the EAS.

1325
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,080
That works right across the country.

1326
01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:36,640
We're in Plotsburg, New York.

1327
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,880
We're sad we've got an operation in the Caribbean as well,

1328
01:44:40,140 --> 01:44:43,540
but what's more important than the specific lines

1329
01:44:43,540 --> 01:44:45,940
is to where we're flying is to understand

1330
01:44:46,540 --> 01:44:48,160
how we build our schedules.

1331
01:44:48,740 --> 01:44:49,820
Because I think it's really relevant.

1332
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,000
If there's a long-term partnership this community,

1333
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:59,560
The way that we're thinking about coming into any city that we serve is we're dedicated in aircraft line and we're dedicated in crew lines.

1334
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:21,680
To that community. And what that means is really the schedule is yours to build whether that's the destination mix or whether that's the frequent, where kind of the frequencies fall based on the time of day. And, you know, we're grown into a reasonably sized company, but we're still a very small airline and we work with each one of these companies or excuse me, each one of these communities.

1335
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:29,900
I do this personally to make sure that we're providing them the best possible schedule and getting them to the destinations that they're interested in.

1336
01:45:29,900 --> 01:45:32,580
And our most important to connect their community too.

1337
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,900
And that's something that we would be very much committed to

1338
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:38,660
if selected here.

1339
01:45:39,220 --> 01:45:42,420
We've got a large maintenance set up in Nashville, Tennessee.

1340
01:45:42,620 --> 01:45:46,180
It's a great place to be in terms of a central location.

1341
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,020
But what we're also doing in each one of these stations

1342
01:45:49,020 --> 01:45:53,740
is having multiple mechanics based in each one of our markets

1343
01:45:53,740 --> 01:45:56,560
to make sure that we're keeping the airline moving.

1344
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,240
And we've got technicians employed in the communities

1345
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:03,720
that we serve and that would be the case in London and as well.

1346
01:46:04,140 --> 01:46:08,000
You have heard about reliability from some of our counterparts, you there are three

1347
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:13,340
really good airlines here with you today, each book on their reliability, I think they've

1348
01:46:13,340 --> 01:46:17,860
got fantastic numbers, we're really proud of the numbers that that we have as well.

1349
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:22,300
Just to go through these a little bit from a controllable completion factor, we're north of

1350
01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:28,540
99%, 97% when we're factoring for things like whether it's you see related delays, some

1351
01:46:28,540 --> 01:46:33,060
those things that you just just can't get around as an airline, no matter what type of equipment

1352
01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:37,160
that you're operating, but we do have the ability with the larger regional jet aircraft

1353
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:41,520
to get around some weather and things and especially winter operations that tends to be very,

1354
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:46,720
very favorable. The other thing that's unique about, I think, the way that we measure ourselves

1355
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:52,000
and it's something that we've elected to do internally, but we like to highlight to our communities

1356
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,900
as well as a lot of airlines with the public information that shared is on a metric called

1357
01:46:56,900 --> 01:47:02,380
which means that you got in within about 15 minutes of your scheduled arrival time.

1358
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:09,120
The way that we measure ourselves and this is stemming from a place of understanding so many of our customers are making connections.

1359
01:47:09,900 --> 01:47:16,780
Is that we're always measuring our team based on what we call D0, which means you are departing exactly on time.

1360
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,150
And that's how we measure ourselves.

1361
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:23,420
And we stack up very well that we're at 72% based on that metric.

1362
01:47:23,420 --> 01:47:48,420
We measure ourselves against the largest carriers in the industry, and the premise of that is if you're coming into a Logan or a JFK or a DOS like coming in five ten minutes late on a real tight connection could matter and so a departure of leaving one minute late for us is digging that metric and we're making sure that we're holding a very very tight schedule and people can know with confidence when booking on contour that they're going to be able to make their connection to one of our partner elements.

1363
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:58,680
important thing to touch on from a safety perspective, there's a lot of information on this slide that's something I'm very proud of.

1364
01:47:59,020 --> 01:48:11,440
The both the safety and the security teams that we have at contour, and I think what's important to know is that every accreditation really that our organization can have on either decide whether private or with the deity.

1365
01:48:13,460 --> 01:48:26,220
We've got a full safety organization that operates really independently to make sure that we're always operating at the highest level of safety and it's something that has an incredible amount of focus for our organization.

1366
01:48:28,780 --> 01:48:39,240
A big part of I think what has transformed contour over the last couple years is our ability to build out a stronger connecting portfolio.

1367
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:46,340
So when our airline really kind of moved into the essential air service program about 10 years ago,

1368
01:48:46,500 --> 01:48:49,060
for the first shots we were operating, we didn't have any partner airlines.

1369
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,240
And it was more about us bringing in a larger jet that people were comfortable with,

1370
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,320
bringing in lower fairs than what they were used to paying.

1371
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,380
And that worked reasonably well.

1372
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:00,640
But it was somewhat limited.

1373
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,420
And our first partner a couple of years ago was American Airlines.

1374
01:49:04,420 --> 01:49:11,200
ones, subsequently last year we onboarded Alaska and United, and this year we're in the process

1375
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:15,240
fully introducing JetBlue and Delta Airlines as well.

1376
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,260
And to the extent that Boston or JFK are of interest to the community, of course, that

1377
01:49:19,260 --> 01:49:23,480
becomes really important and we're really proud of the relationship that we're building with

1378
01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:25,240
those carriers and growing with those carriers.

1379
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:30,620
And of course, that from a business perspective are some of the reasons why we're interested

1380
01:49:30,620 --> 01:49:35,440
in this community in particular, in some other markets, in this region.

1381
01:49:37,740 --> 01:49:41,640
Now, a little bit more on the specifics and our plans for Lebanon.

1382
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:43,200
You can go ahead, Chris.

1383
01:49:44,460 --> 01:49:49,760
There's a lot of information on this slide, but on the left hand, what you're looking at,

1384
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,700
is really kind of what jumps off the page to us in terms of opportunity.

1385
01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:58,140
And this is the number of past years and thousands from the Department of Transportation

1386
01:49:58,140 --> 01:50:00,860
that are going to and from the Lebanon airport.

1387
01:50:00,860 --> 01:50:04,200
And it's been about 20,000 passengers consistently.

1388
01:50:04,340 --> 01:50:10,940
That's really relevant in the 10,000 passengers kind of caps out AIP funding for the airport.

1389
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:16,460
And that is a very, very large number for a community that still has a nine-seat platform.

1390
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:25,960
It's the second largest in the continental US and the EAS program and it's over twice the size of the average for communities that have nine-seat aircraft.

1391
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,140
So this is something when we're looking at the size of the community.

1392
01:50:30,140 --> 01:50:38,140
in terms of the demand that exists today in terms of the economy that's here, the travel demand

1393
01:50:38,140 --> 01:50:42,740
that is here. We see a significant amount of opportunity already with the base of traffic.

1394
01:50:43,420 --> 01:50:48,620
And we see a significant amount of opportunity from our experience in communities like this one

1395
01:50:48,620 --> 01:50:54,480
and having ability to grow on that number and that's why we're so motivated to come in and serve this community and serve it well.

1396
01:50:54,480 --> 01:51:01,060
The other opportunity that we see is that there has been a decline recently, and I think

1397
01:51:01,060 --> 01:51:05,520
you know, following K-Fair, and I don't just say this because they significantly outnumber

1398
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:06,000
me.

1399
01:51:06,420 --> 01:51:11,100
They are a, they are a wonderful airline, I'm absolutely certain that they've done an incredible

1400
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:17,840
job, but there is some inherent limitations that come from operating a twin piston or a single

1401
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:25,560
of a prop aircraft, the nine seats that inherently can push people to a Manchester or to a

1402
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:30,600
Boston that are then missed opportunities for the local airport or can make business or travel

1403
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:35,200
to this community more difficult. And those are all passengers that we immediately see as

1404
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:39,300
opportunities to recapture into the airport here.

1405
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:46,440
I'm so just to capture a couple of the pieces that I think really build up to the business

1406
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:51,660
for contouring while we're excited about this community as first, the premium jet service.

1407
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,120
I can went through the capabilities of our Emberia 135 aircraft.

1408
01:51:56,260 --> 01:52:01,580
We want to provide a, as part of our bid, I think we put five different options in front

1409
01:52:01,580 --> 01:52:02,900
of the Department of Transportation.

1410
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:06,500
And there's quite a bit of flexibility built into those options as well,

1411
01:52:06,660 --> 01:52:08,720
and willing to talk to those today.

1412
01:52:08,900 --> 01:52:14,360
It's really answering questions, because we've added some commitments on top of the DAT frequency

1413
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:20,220
the allocation for our aircraft type that I specifically wanted to highlight, and we want

1414
01:52:20,220 --> 01:52:23,120
to lower fairs and bring more seats into the community.

1415
01:52:25,930 --> 01:52:30,910
And I think, you know, this is, and again, this is taking nothing, nothing away from Cape

1416
01:52:30,910 --> 01:52:31,330
Air.

1417
01:52:31,490 --> 01:52:37,230
Again, like if absolutely outstanding airline that we hold the hold of an Irish regard, but what we

1418
01:52:37,230 --> 01:52:40,070
are talking about is bringing in a totally different platform.

1419
01:52:40,250 --> 01:52:45,430
Something that's a little bit more similar to what this community had in kind of the mid-2000s

1420
01:52:45,430 --> 01:52:47,470
and actually I think enough great from that

1421
01:52:47,470 --> 01:52:49,750
in that we're talking about a cabin-clot-serocraft

1422
01:52:50,350 --> 01:52:52,050
for the longer ranges, especially,

1423
01:52:52,310 --> 01:52:54,290
but even for Boston significantly cutting down

1424
01:52:54,290 --> 01:52:59,150
travel time, our ERJs crews at over 500 miles per hour.

1425
01:52:59,470 --> 01:53:01,770
You've got a true stand-up cabin with the flight attendant

1426
01:53:01,770 --> 01:53:03,330
onboarding your delivering folks,

1427
01:53:03,890 --> 01:53:05,890
a true cabin-clot-serocraft experience.

1428
01:53:08,030 --> 01:53:12,230
So in terms of the options, and there's quite a bit,

1429
01:53:12,610 --> 01:53:14,030
that we wanted to put in front of the DOT,

1430
01:53:14,030 --> 01:53:19,090
and we do that strategically to make sure that the community is part of the recommendation process,

1431
01:53:19,670 --> 01:53:25,650
can have the opportunity to select something that they think best potentially fits the community.

1432
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:31,010
There's four different, I guess, hub options, if you will, or large market options,

1433
01:53:31,550 --> 01:53:37,790
that are various proposals include, versus continuing service to Boston, whether that's

1434
01:53:38,930 --> 01:53:41,810
by itself, or whether that's complemented with another hub,

1435
01:53:41,810 --> 01:53:44,790
going, continuing to maintain the service in New York.

1436
01:53:45,410 --> 01:53:49,210
We would be interested in opening up JFK that's a plan for us

1437
01:53:49,210 --> 01:53:51,690
as part of our new partnership with Jeff Blue,

1438
01:53:52,430 --> 01:53:55,390
or maintaining that service into White Plans,

1439
01:53:55,590 --> 01:53:57,470
the Westchester, that's interesting for the community.

1440
01:53:58,270 --> 01:54:02,190
The other, the other airport that we heard quite a bit about,

1441
01:54:02,290 --> 01:54:04,730
and we've had a tremendous amount of success with,

1442
01:54:04,730 --> 01:54:06,110
with our United Airlines partnership

1443
01:54:06,110 --> 01:54:08,010
is created in a connection to DC,

1444
01:54:08,510 --> 01:54:09,990
specifically Washington, Dallas,

1445
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:12,970
where we'd be connecting to the United's hub there.

1446
01:54:13,970 --> 01:54:18,050
One question we often get when we're replacing a smaller aircraft type is, okay, this

1447
01:54:18,050 --> 01:54:20,410
sounds nice, what does this mean from a fairs perspective?

1448
01:54:21,870 --> 01:54:26,170
And we do have a considerable amount of opportunity just in that.

1449
01:54:26,290 --> 01:54:30,450
We're spreading the costs over 30 seats, as opposed to some of our competitors,

1450
01:54:32,230 --> 01:54:35,850
to be able to actually lower the fairs that we're bringing into the community.

1451
01:54:35,850 --> 01:54:41,390
these are the real numbers that we included as part of our bids. This is labeled as average

1452
01:54:41,390 --> 01:54:45,890
fair. It's actually really revenue for passengers. So this is including the ticket fair

1453
01:54:45,890 --> 01:54:50,030
or any fees that we would estimate. This is something we spend a considerable amount of time

1454
01:54:50,030 --> 01:54:55,450
modeling because of course this drives the economics that we would have coming into this community.

1455
01:54:55,950 --> 01:55:00,670
We're looking at an average fair of only $55 in Boston. It's over 20% reduction in

1456
01:55:00,670 --> 01:55:07,590
what's in the year for today, $110 fair to New York, very similar numbers between JFK and

1457
01:55:07,590 --> 01:55:15,270
White Plains, and a little bit higher with the longer stage length of $125 fair going into

1458
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:15,570
dollars.

1459
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:26,370
So to go through the detail of some of our proposals or each one of our proposals that we put in front

1460
01:55:26,370 --> 01:55:32,090
of the Department of Transportation, there's two important components to what we're committing

1461
01:55:32,090 --> 01:55:38,090
to this community first is what we're able to do with essential air service and those are the frequencies

1462
01:55:38,090 --> 01:55:44,290
that will be subsidized from the Department of Transportation. They limit those to 12 flights per week in this community.

1463
01:55:45,290 --> 01:55:52,150
That gives considerable room for growth. That's typically what we're going into a community with.

1464
01:55:52,570 --> 01:55:57,450
But when we see considerable opportunity, whether it's in different destinations or in supplemental frequencies,

1465
01:55:57,450 --> 01:56:02,490
we will add to that in operating additional at-risk flights and we'll absolutely make a commitment

1466
01:56:02,490 --> 01:56:09,030
to do this in the case of Lebanon. And so kind of to go through each one of our proposals and

1467
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:14,370
in what this would mean is the first option that we put in front of the department was to put

1468
01:56:14,370 --> 01:56:19,690
all of the capacity, the EAS capacity and the Boston Logan. That would be the 12 flights per week.

1469
01:56:20,350 --> 01:56:24,430
If that's something the community would want to do, we have confidence enough from what we've seen in

1470
01:56:24,430 --> 01:56:28,290
New York market, what we've seen with our previous experience, that we would then at risk

1471
01:56:28,290 --> 01:56:32,550
at service in New York, and that could be the community's choice between white planes

1472
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:40,190
and our JFK service, based on whatever the preference was, two iterations on this would

1473
01:56:40,190 --> 01:56:45,650
be to have 14 flights a week split between Boston and New York, whether that's JFK and

1474
01:56:45,650 --> 01:56:46,310
white planes.

1475
01:56:46,530 --> 01:56:51,710
It's a little bit less frequency, it's a lower-soaked city number with those, or kind

1476
01:56:51,710 --> 01:56:57,690
in a different hub options. Option D is particularly interesting for us. That's opening an

1477
01:56:57,690 --> 01:57:05,070
up Washington DC and introducing JFK service for a total of 14 flights per week between what we're

1478
01:57:05,070 --> 01:57:10,030
willing to do as part of the EAS contract and supplemental service. Or if it was of the community's

1479
01:57:10,030 --> 01:57:14,950
interest to put all capacity into the New York market, we'd be able to do that whether that's

1480
01:57:14,950 --> 01:57:20,230
a split between white planes and JFK or whether that's the frequencies allocated into one of those

1481
01:57:20,230 --> 01:57:25,730
reports individually across the board, which you're getting is a 3CDRJ aircraft, 5 underlying

1482
01:57:25,730 --> 01:57:29,870
partners, and supplemental hours, flying to the essential service contract.

1483
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:36,310
From a marketing perspective, we were really proud of our ability to engage with communities.

1484
01:57:36,570 --> 01:57:43,610
We've got a team of folks that do this, a $75,000 budget, to make that a reality with the

1485
01:57:43,610 --> 01:57:52,330
community. We do this really probably three different ways. We've got communities that effectively

1486
01:57:52,330 --> 01:57:56,210
want us to write them a check and they're convinced that they know the best in some case

1487
01:57:56,210 --> 01:58:00,270
they do about how to market their service. We're willing to do that. There's some communities

1488
01:58:00,270 --> 01:58:04,490
that the airport in the community leadership says as an airline that's our responsibility and

1489
01:58:04,490 --> 01:58:08,910
make sure that's allocated and invalid that that's been in as occurred and we do that. Or

1490
01:58:08,910 --> 01:58:13,590
the best, I think the best partnerships we have is there's kind of a hybrid in between

1491
01:58:13,590 --> 01:58:16,730
working with community leadership, we're getting, finding out,

1492
01:58:16,770 --> 01:58:18,750
hearing that community has a best way to maximize

1493
01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:21,210
employment and working with those partners to understand

1494
01:58:21,210 --> 01:58:24,790
the dynamics of, of Lebanon, of the upper valley and

1495
01:58:25,590 --> 01:58:28,870
being able to just maximize the performance of our service,

1496
01:58:29,090 --> 01:58:31,750
which we're both very motivated to do all complimented with

1497
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:35,150
very low affairs to make it affordable for folks to be able to

1498
01:58:35,150 --> 01:58:35,950
travel.

1499
01:58:38,030 --> 01:58:41,990
And again, this is absolutely nothing, nothing against

1500
01:58:41,990 --> 01:58:46,630
paper, but there's a lot of things I think that you'll hear as part of all the presentations

1501
01:58:47,170 --> 01:58:47,650
about.

1502
01:58:47,690 --> 01:58:53,730
I think the concept of frequency, relative to seats, relative to aircraft type, and what I can

1503
01:58:53,730 --> 01:58:58,930
say definitively is that in every one of our situations where we follow K-Pair into a community,

1504
01:58:59,590 --> 01:59:04,130
we've grown traffic by an average of 40%, and this is nothing against them. It's a carrier

1505
01:59:04,130 --> 01:59:08,990
K-Pair as a stunt-ite, certain a wonderful job each one of these communities, most of which

1506
01:59:08,990 --> 01:59:15,750
or smaller hatch merriest, then what I think love and offers, but still just the nature of

1507
01:59:15,750 --> 01:59:20,050
being able to have a cabin class aircraft being able to offer low fairs, making it more comfortable

1508
01:59:20,050 --> 01:59:24,390
for folks being able to travel sometimes to a different hub than otherwise they would have been

1509
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:29,510
going to. That might be more convenient for them as across the board led to significant stimulation.

1510
01:59:31,550 --> 01:59:38,290
And a lot last slide for me here, but just to recap first as to why I come to our cabin class

1511
01:59:38,290 --> 01:59:43,730
service, what you're talking about, is double-digit seek growth across the options with

1512
01:59:43,730 --> 01:59:47,290
the supplemental frequencies that we're willing to commit to this community, reduce

1513
01:59:47,290 --> 01:59:52,510
fares versus what exists now, significant passenger growth, that of course has a significant

1514
01:59:52,510 --> 01:59:57,150
economic benefit for the community, but specifically for the airport that opens up additional

1515
01:59:57,150 --> 01:59:59,970
AIP funding as well, which is directly tied.

1516
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,680
Now, on a variable basis, to the number of passengers that are at the airport, with that happy to take any questions.

1517
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:09,960
Can I please?

1518
02:00:14,550 --> 02:00:14,910
Second.

1519
02:00:15,570 --> 02:00:16,230
I'll take one.

1520
02:00:17,830 --> 02:00:18,610
Thank you very much.

1521
02:00:19,790 --> 02:00:20,750
It was a very good presentation.

1522
02:00:20,990 --> 02:00:23,190
I was a very good presentation by all three, quite frankly.

1523
02:00:25,470 --> 02:00:29,810
And a couple of the questions I have for the non-keep air folks.

1524
02:00:29,810 --> 02:00:36,690
It seems to me it's been a very popular option for passengers in the area to fly to white planes

1525
02:00:36,690 --> 02:00:38,590
but have the shuttle service.

1526
02:00:38,770 --> 02:00:44,270
Then we've heard that in a lot and I want to know what your willingness or ability is

1527
02:00:44,270 --> 02:00:51,370
to package the shuttle service from white planes to midtown in maintain your price structure.

1528
02:00:51,870 --> 02:00:55,030
Yeah, I would be willing to speak to that first, then if we take away that's something that

1529
02:00:55,030 --> 02:00:56,230
we'd be interested in maintaining.

1530
02:00:56,230 --> 02:00:59,130
if the Westchester service continues.

1531
02:01:00,370 --> 02:01:03,450
My part of being a contour, I spent a lot of five years

1532
02:01:03,450 --> 02:01:05,030
before this in surface transportation,

1533
02:01:05,170 --> 02:01:06,330
as well as something that I'm close to,

1534
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:08,450
whether it's with the current provider.

1535
02:01:08,970 --> 02:01:10,610
We'd have to find a larger vehicle

1536
02:01:10,610 --> 02:01:12,070
than I think what it's just today,

1537
02:01:12,570 --> 02:01:14,790
but we absolutely would be willing to maintain

1538
02:01:14,790 --> 02:01:16,950
that surface transportation connection to the flight.

1539
02:01:17,230 --> 02:01:17,890
That's great.

1540
02:01:18,050 --> 02:01:20,330
I look over to Bootique, I'm the few.

1541
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:26,840
Sorry, but I'll borrow more.

1542
02:01:26,940 --> 02:01:27,120
I'll borrow more.

1543
02:01:27,180 --> 02:01:27,620
I'll borrow your mic here.

1544
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:29,480
Everybody, yes.

1545
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:34,480
So we are willing to extend that same service that you guys have now.

1546
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:35,960
No changes.

1547
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:38,240
You guys need it?

1548
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:39,000
We'll give it.

1549
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:40,540
Thank you.

1550
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:41,680
Another question I have.

1551
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:43,280
And don't go too far away on this.

1552
02:01:43,820 --> 02:01:46,860
We have limited limited levers at the airport to drive revenue.

1553
02:01:47,540 --> 02:01:51,460
And as you may or may not know, this is a, of course, you know, it's a city owned airport.

1554
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,400
And sometimes we answer the questions for our constituents here.

1555
02:01:55,640 --> 02:01:58,320
What's, what's in it for us for the city owning an airport?

1556
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:03,000
we don't fly out of the airport and it seems to be a pretty significant cost structure.

1557
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:09,300
It is a very well-run airport that's improving every year, so we can look into drive some additional

1558
02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:09,680
revenues.

1559
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:16,900
And I guess one of the levers that we depend on is a fuel flowage fees, which you know is important

1560
02:02:16,900 --> 02:02:19,820
on a fairly narrow margin that we operate there.

1561
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:25,240
And I'm just wondering your thoughts on minimal flowage each calendar year that you're there,

1562
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:30,560
you're looking to perhaps ensure that you'll be pumping the same amount of fuel as say

1563
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:33,520
Cape Airstream pumping more and more going forward.

1564
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:38,620
So we can assure that that revenue structure will stay in place in a consistent flow of revenues.

1565
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:39,940
Yeah, absolutely.

1566
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:47,280
In our outstations in Pendleton and Masina, we purchase fuel at those stations primarily.

1567
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:55,220
Let's say, 98% of the time, the bigger airport's tend to get us a little bit on the

1568
02:02:55,220 --> 02:03:01,020
price of the fuel there. So we definitely do purchase the fuel in our

1569
02:03:01,020 --> 02:03:10,640
outstation. So the EAS community itself. I do believe we did what was the numbers

1570
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:18,420
in the name for the fuel in Messina. It was 25,000 gallons per week in

1571
02:03:18,420 --> 02:03:23,520
Messina. And that was just using three round trips. So if we're up in that

1572
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:26,260
into six, then 12,000 roughly.

1573
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,680
Yeah, so we understand the importance of the fuel flow

1574
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:34,420
fees for the airport and as wonderful as that airplane is,

1575
02:03:34,540 --> 02:03:37,460
it's fuel efficiency relative to a 40 to our technicians,

1576
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,460
not it's leading attributes.

1577
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,000
So I would suspect that we're going to bring in a more fuel,

1578
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:45,640
but sometimes we manage things a little bit differently

1579
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,140
in that because of the amount of fuel that we're consuming

1580
02:03:48,140 --> 02:03:49,760
and the cost difference that might exist,

1581
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:52,660
It's like a Logan or a Dullis versus a Seraport.

1582
02:03:53,020 --> 02:03:56,300
What we'll do is we'll enter into a contract with the airport

1583
02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:58,220
or with the FBI, whoever's the relevant party,

1584
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:01,620
to commit to a minimum fuel flowage fee,

1585
02:04:01,780 --> 02:04:03,400
per month, whether we uplift or not.

1586
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:05,380
Because that typically creates an opportunity

1587
02:04:05,380 --> 02:04:07,280
based on the amount of volume that we're doing

1588
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,700
in the price per gallon spread, that we can make sure

1589
02:04:10,700 --> 02:04:13,360
that you maintain or improve the economics that you have today

1590
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,180
and without us paying a three or four dollar

1591
02:04:16,180 --> 02:04:18,620
price per gallon premium, if that makes sense.

1592
02:04:18,620 --> 02:04:27,080
It does, in the retail price of the wholesale price you buy it at is obviously not really relevant to us when it gets dumped into the tank

1593
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:33,400
and that's those are the numbers that make a difference into the fuel to the large fuel tank that you'll be pumping from, that's when it's most important to us.

1594
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:37,220
How much goes in there and how much the fee is generates for us.

1595
02:04:38,180 --> 02:04:48,300
I guess the only other question I think boutique touched on this a little bit and maybe a harder for a contour to do this, but if we start to see any increase in demand

1596
02:04:48,300 --> 02:04:54,560
for the services that you provide, you know, what is your flexibility to say increase frequency

1597
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:58,020
for those very popular roots during specific times of year?

1598
02:04:58,460 --> 02:05:00,000
Yeah, we've got a lot of opportunities.

1599
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:04,860
So the aircraft that we're operating in is built to fly eight, nine hours a day.

1600
02:05:05,180 --> 02:05:09,300
And what we're talking about is in this scenario is flying at something like four to six.

1601
02:05:09,820 --> 02:05:13,440
So when there's opportunity with demand, we absolutely flux it.

1602
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,600
in our, it's our incentive to do that.

1603
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:18,760
One sort kind of set up the way that we operate,

1604
02:05:19,020 --> 02:05:20,160
you know, the aircraft is fixed.

1605
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:21,780
We've got fixed employees here,

1606
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,700
typically on salary, our pilots are on salary,

1607
02:05:24,780 --> 02:05:25,940
flood tenants as well.

1608
02:05:26,420 --> 02:05:28,860
So it becomes that like a variable cost exercise for us.

1609
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:30,340
And so we're very interested in growing

1610
02:05:30,340 --> 02:05:31,760
when that opportunity exists.

1611
02:05:32,820 --> 02:05:36,080
Just today, we started flights from two of our communities

1612
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:37,080
to mortal beach.

1613
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:39,640
Then it just because we felt there was an opportunity

1614
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,320
to be able to do that in those communities

1615
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:43,920
and has nothing to do with the Central Air Service program,

1616
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:46,520
I think that we serve them, otherwise.

1617
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:49,060
And so we'd be looking for those opportunities here as well.

1618
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:49,900
All right.

1619
02:05:50,660 --> 02:05:52,960
And a follow-up question for both of you here,

1620
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:57,320
and certainly K-Pairs have been happy to have you weigh in on this as well.

1621
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:02,180
But we've seen a significant inflationary impact on fuel.

1622
02:06:02,900 --> 02:06:06,340
And it may have had something to do with the downfall of spirit airlines.

1623
02:06:06,620 --> 02:06:10,100
I don't know, but I certainly think when you take a player like that out of the market,

1624
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:16,000
It creates a little bit of havoc and often wonder that ensuring that the city is recommending

1625
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:23,100
any AS provider that has the ability to weather these difficult periods in the economy and survive.

1626
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:27,560
You know, that's critically important to I once become dependent on a certain service.

1627
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:33,340
So I'm wondering how the fuel and the price of oil is impacting your overall operational costs.

1628
02:06:34,380 --> 02:06:38,420
And you know, I think we're probably all hoping that whoever this council recommends,

1629
02:06:38,420 --> 02:06:41,460
And we can feel really good that the next four-year stretch,

1630
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:43,620
your company will be here.

1631
02:06:44,500 --> 02:06:46,100
Yeah, I can speak to that first.

1632
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:49,400
Contour has been here for 40 years and so in the end of the span

1633
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:51,320
that we think about what that means for aviation.

1634
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:54,360
There's been a lot of tumultuous times that we've gone through

1635
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,420
and we've weathered all of those.

1636
02:06:56,820 --> 02:07:00,600
And with that, whether it's been original fuel spikes or with COVID,

1637
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:03,760
like we didn't reduce or eliminate any of our commitments.

1638
02:07:03,900 --> 02:07:06,680
Any EAS, communities we know how important that is.

1639
02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:15,440
So, we've seen a significant increase in the price of fuel.

1640
02:07:15,900 --> 02:07:19,340
Everybody can agree on that and that's where you're asking the question here.

1641
02:07:20,020 --> 02:07:25,960
We're seeing a increase at Boston, advertised prices is now $11 per gallon.

1642
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:32,040
We have been operating at Boston for roughly 10 years now.

1643
02:07:32,420 --> 02:07:36,580
No changes to the service, no changes to the ticket prices or any of that.

1644
02:07:36,580 --> 02:07:41,360
We do the same thing out in Portland, in Pendleton route.

1645
02:07:41,860 --> 02:07:46,540
We see those increases, and we don't see a change in any of the prices.

1646
02:07:47,500 --> 02:07:51,620
$79 a $79 for us, and we share that with the community.

1647
02:07:57,210 --> 02:08:00,190
Yeah, I mean, like Contra, we've been in business for 37 years.

1648
02:08:00,610 --> 02:08:07,230
We could list everything that we've gone through, and really have come out better on the other end.

1649
02:08:07,230 --> 02:08:12,290
As for fuel, for us, AvGAS is a little different than jet fuel.

1650
02:08:13,070 --> 02:08:18,350
Our overall cost of fuel is roughly about 12% of our total cost.

1651
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:21,910
When you look at, you know, majors and jets, that's much, much higher.

1652
02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:24,030
So for us, it's not as big of a deal.

1653
02:08:24,350 --> 02:08:25,790
We'd love for it to come down, of course.

1654
02:08:26,810 --> 02:08:31,770
But with AvGAS, we don't have any issue when it comes up.

1655
02:08:32,150 --> 02:08:32,650
Thanks Mike.

1656
02:08:33,110 --> 02:08:34,890
One more question, if I have Mr. Mayor.

1657
02:08:35,590 --> 02:08:51,590
Any labor negotiations if you're a union chops that we should be worried about you in the midst of contract cycles or either with your mechanics or your pilots your flight attendants anything there that would come up for a negotiation during the next four four and a half years or so

1658
02:08:51,590 --> 02:09:00,170
We are not union base. We we go off a contract for our pilots and our mechanics and nothing to negotiate at the time our reserves are good and I'm a tax great

1659
02:09:06,990 --> 02:09:07,430
Yeah

1660
02:09:08,590 --> 02:09:09,890
We do have a pilot.

1661
02:09:12,510 --> 02:09:18,450
We do have a pilot unit. We do have a pilot unit. It's the IBT in October.

1662
02:09:18,770 --> 02:09:25,350
We just signed a four-year agreement with them. We've had a great relationship and we have more pilots today than we've had in the last ten years.

1663
02:09:25,770 --> 02:09:26,210
Thanks.

1664
02:09:28,530 --> 02:09:29,350
Thank you, Mr. Manager.

1665
02:09:29,350 --> 02:09:34,290
Councillors, any questions or move into taking some public comment?

1666
02:09:37,330 --> 02:09:41,430
All right, we'll now start taking some public comment.

1667
02:09:42,270 --> 02:09:46,790
Again, just reiterating, please try to be as brief as you can,

1668
02:09:47,810 --> 02:09:51,510
and maybe not necessarily repeat comments that have already been provided,

1669
02:09:51,850 --> 02:09:55,450
but feel free to provide your support for which airline.

1670
02:09:55,890 --> 02:09:57,790
And also just note in our own meeting packet,

1671
02:09:57,790 --> 02:10:01,410
we have a pretty extensive list of supportive comments.

1672
02:10:01,430 --> 02:10:04,210
And thank you to City staff for pulling that together

1673
02:10:04,210 --> 02:10:06,850
and summarizing that was very helpful.

1674
02:10:07,950 --> 02:10:09,670
So we'll start with the in-person audience.

1675
02:10:10,750 --> 02:10:12,930
Yep, just line up, kind of cue up,

1676
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:16,360
yeah.

1677
02:10:16,660 --> 02:10:16,860
Test.

1678
02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:18,460
OK, I just want to make sure it was on.

1679
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:19,500
I saw no green line.

1680
02:10:21,020 --> 02:10:22,700
My name is Chris McIntyre.

1681
02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:24,320
Last name spelled MC.

1682
02:10:24,500 --> 02:10:26,760
I-N-T-Y-R-E.

1683
02:10:27,420 --> 02:10:29,080
I'm from Grant from the Hampshire, and obviously

1684
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:45,840
not from Lebanon, but I do have a regional interest in the decision here. I'm going to go right up front and say, I'm going to violate the three minutes, but I'll be less than six. Let's say. Okay. I will cut you off it for two minutes. Okay.

1685
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:54,160
Life along the hamster resident, raised in Nashville, went to UNH, went to the Air Force for

1686
02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:58,780
22 years, came to grant them flu for Dart for six years.

1687
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:04,220
I own a small business now, set it up with my life for the last five, and now full disclosure

1688
02:11:04,220 --> 02:11:05,700
I'm a captain for Cape Air.

1689
02:11:06,700 --> 02:11:09,400
I do have a vested interest in this decision.

1690
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:15,820
This isn't simply a choice of whether we have a jet, flan at 11 or not, they're human

1691
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:26,200
human interests at stake here. And I am one of them. We have 11 Pirate, 12 Pilots. I think

1692
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:33,400
as Mike had alluded to, 11 of them either rent here in the Lebanon area or own property.

1693
02:11:34,180 --> 02:11:41,800
Were your neighbors? We go to church here. We buy shop locally here. And we have friends

1694
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:48,660
here and some of us specifically me, I'm not quite sure about the other pilots, but I have

1695
02:11:48,660 --> 02:11:55,940
a child here who went to Lebanon High School, graduated in 2022, and now is a junior at UNH.

1696
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:02,960
So we are woven into fabric at Cape Air into the community here.

1697
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:11,160
Cape Air is a local airline, New England-based, and they hire New England people for a large

1698
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:13,020
number of their pilot pull.

1699
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:20,520
So what the council here decides will have a distinct impact

1700
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:27,060
on a number of individuals who live in this community. If you bring in an airline that lives

1701
02:12:27,060 --> 02:12:33,000
or that is based in either Tennessee or California, I am not so sure they're going to be able

1702
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:38,340
to say that they will base their pilots here like Cape Air does. So that's definitely something

1703
02:12:38,340 --> 02:12:41,780
you guys need to think about. That's it. Thanks, Chris.

1704
02:12:48,860 --> 02:12:51,320
Hi, my name is Don Buck. I live in

1705
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:59,540
Orford. I'm a passenger. I have flown on Cape Air twice and I've lived in Orford for 25 years

1706
02:13:00,500 --> 02:13:08,960
and taken many bus rides to New York and I won't do that again. I'm going to fly on Cape Air

1707
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:15,760
the next time I go to New York. It was easy to book. The staff was, at the airport,

1708
02:13:16,020 --> 02:13:20,420
was friendly. The pilots were, you know, asked, answer a lot of questions I asked.

1709
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:29,760
And the whole flight was down and back for me and my wife was trouble-free and

1710
02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:36,060
I would definitely fly Cape Air again.

1711
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:36,930
Thank you.

1712
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:38,040
Thank you.

1713
02:13:46,020 --> 02:13:46,200
Good evening.

1714
02:13:46,300 --> 02:13:47,440
My name is Christopher Johnson.

1715
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:51,200
I'm not a Lebanon resident, but I am the proud father of whom.

1716
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:54,800
My son Chris, who you may know from the Conservation Commission.

1717
02:13:55,700 --> 02:13:57,420
I live in Quiche and New York.

1718
02:13:58,700 --> 02:14:06,200
And like many more Cape Air passengers, then you might realize I live primarily in the upper valley.

1719
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:15,580
maintain an office in New York City. I urge the council to recommend that Cape Air continue

1720
02:14:15,580 --> 02:14:22,580
the continued providing the Central Air Service at Lebanon. I have four brief points, first flight

1721
02:14:22,580 --> 02:14:30,540
frequency matters. Cape Air provides 42 weekly round trips, four daily to Boston and two daily

1722
02:14:30,540 --> 02:14:31,940
to New York.

1723
02:14:32,180 --> 02:14:35,880
Contour, I think, was proposing only 12 weekly round trips.

1724
02:14:36,660 --> 02:14:40,660
Fewer flights mean fewer travel options, fewer opportunities,

1725
02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:44,980
for same-day business trips, far less flexibility

1726
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:48,060
when weather or other delays occur.

1727
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:51,760
Second, for travel to New York,

1728
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:54,320
the destination isn't the airport.

1729
02:14:55,060 --> 02:14:55,560
It's Manhattan.

1730
02:14:55,560 --> 02:14:59,760
I have flown, probably.

1731
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:10,060
More than 200 of round trips on the Cape Air Flight to New York. I've developed a pretty good understanding

1732
02:15:10,060 --> 02:15:18,440
of the people who use that flight. Many of them, some of them here, Peter back there, are traveling

1733
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:26,580
to New York City for work or meetings. Cape Air has built its New York service around that

1734
02:15:26,580 --> 02:15:34,880
reality. They operate twice daily flights to a private terminal in white planes, where passengers

1735
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:43,660
simply walk off the plane, get on to a complimentary shuttle, provided by Alan, and Dave,

1736
02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:52,060
and they drop you up in midtown and head. Sometimes they have a spot where they drop

1737
02:15:52,060 --> 02:15:59,620
can pick up. But sometimes they'll drive you to the specific location that you're going to.

1738
02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:04,840
It is terrific service. It is as convenient as air travel gets.

1739
02:16:07,380 --> 02:16:09,880
The JFK option that I think has

1740
02:16:09,880 --> 02:16:22,040
been discussed by contour is markedly less convenient. At JFK passengers going to need

1741
02:16:22,040 --> 02:16:30,640
get to an air train, take that up to Jamaica, get on the subway into New York on the

1742
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:37,700
native New Yorker. Trust me on this. If you don't want to go that way. Cape Air Service

1743
02:16:37,700 --> 02:16:39,880
is extremely convenient.

1744
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:46,200
Third, Cape Air offers reliability that has been proven over

1745
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:50,060
15 years in the Upper Valley's Weather Conditions.

1746
02:16:50,660 --> 02:16:53,440
Cape Air pilots, one of whom just spoke,

1747
02:16:53,900 --> 02:17:00,920
know how to take off and land and still in wind and fog.

1748
02:17:02,060 --> 02:17:04,520
When we had this hearing four years ago,

1749
02:17:04,660 --> 02:17:09,220
I remember one of the pilots talking about the experience,

1750
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:12,380
one needs in order to come through the mountains

1751
02:17:12,380 --> 02:17:14,180
into the Lebanon airport.

1752
02:17:14,180 --> 02:17:18,060
the Cape Air pilots have that experience and it provides

1753
02:17:18,060 --> 02:17:22,980
invaluable safety for the upper valley passengers.

1754
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:28,540
And finally, I'm not an aviation lawyer, but I am a lawyer.

1755
02:17:29,960 --> 02:17:33,980
And so I do want to point out something I noticed in the

1756
02:17:33,980 --> 02:17:36,940
contour proposal that has not been mentioned,

1757
02:17:38,060 --> 02:17:41,320
which is that it states that explicitly states that its flights

1758
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:50,440
would be conducted as part 380 public charters, which I think my understanding is that it would

1759
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:57,240
require Lebanon to wave its statutory right to scheduled air service or convert to an

1760
02:17:57,240 --> 02:18:04,280
alternate essential air service program. So that appears to represent a significant change in

1761
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:12,580
framework and so I'll just make sure that the city council considers that when someone asked

1762
02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:21,440
to a community about existing legal right, I think it's important to ask why, so I don't

1763
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:26,040
think this is about choosing the airline and choosing the kind of service that best serves the

1764
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:34,220
upper valley and I respectfully ask the council to continue to preserve the reliable service

1765
02:18:34,280 --> 02:18:40,840
that Cape Air has provided for 15 years. I will say it is police or hype up.

1766
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:47,280
Sorry, the last thing. The company provides the best customer service of any company I have

1767
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:50,640
encountered in my 66 years. Thank you.

1768
02:18:54,260 --> 02:18:58,100
Greetings. My name is Alice Reberge,

1769
02:18:58,100 --> 02:19:05,520
R. O. B. E. R. G. E. I'm a resident of St. John's Berry Vermont. I am here to offer testimonies

1770
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:07,080
support of Cape Air Airlines.

1771
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:11,200
Cape Air has played a significant role in saving my life.

1772
02:19:11,700 --> 02:19:15,140
Perhaps you think I am exaggerating, but this is not the case.

1773
02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:16,460
Let me explain.

1774
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:21,940
I was diagnosed with metastatic grade 4 cancer in April of 2023.

1775
02:19:22,940 --> 02:19:24,680
My prognosis was grim.

1776
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:27,740
My Dartmouth Hitchcock Cancer Center oncologists

1777
02:19:27,740 --> 02:19:31,440
said to think in terms of months, not ears.

1778
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:38,700
I had chemotherapy, radiation treatment, immunotherapy, and a novel oral agent, but my cancer

1779
02:19:38,700 --> 02:19:39,420
was spreading.

1780
02:19:40,300 --> 02:19:46,500
Finally, I was told that I had only Hail Mary options remaining therapies that were unlikely

1781
02:19:46,500 --> 02:19:50,320
to help progression and that all had significant side effects.

1782
02:19:50,860 --> 02:19:53,340
I decided to opt for hops hospice.

1783
02:19:53,960 --> 02:20:00,080
However, at the very last schedule of meeting with the psychologists, I was told that I was eligible

1784
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:07,340
for a phase one clinical trial at Memorial Sloan Catering Cancer Center in Manhattan.

1785
02:20:08,700 --> 02:20:15,280
Phase one means that the drug was being tested on humans to ascertain safety and dosage,

1786
02:20:15,700 --> 02:20:22,000
in other words, an experimental medication. There was one catch. I would need to be in Manhattan

1787
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:27,780
very frequently after I started to drug, sometimes as often as several times a month,

1788
02:20:27,780 --> 02:20:29,980
and sometimes for days at a time.

1789
02:20:30,900 --> 02:20:34,640
Once its safety in me had been established with frequent testing,

1790
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:36,820
I would be able to go only monthly.

1791
02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:39,740
And how was I going to get to New York,

1792
02:20:40,240 --> 02:20:42,740
especially in the beginning when I had to return so often?

1793
02:20:43,540 --> 02:20:45,800
This is how Cape Air became a life saver.

1794
02:20:46,180 --> 02:20:49,520
I could fly to Westchester when my brother lived stay overnight

1795
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:52,600
and take an early morning train to Manhattan the next day.

1796
02:20:53,140 --> 02:20:56,100
Sometimes in the beginning I had days of testing

1797
02:20:56,100 --> 02:21:02,100
And I stayed at Hope Lodge, run by the American Cancer Society, and how did I get to Hope

1798
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:02,560
Lodge?

1799
02:21:03,180 --> 02:21:08,100
Capia runs a shuttle, which stops very close to Hope Lodge, operated by the nicest driver

1800
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:09,020
when can imagine.

1801
02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:16,080
Some days, I had to just go get my blood drum, and MSK in West Harrison, and I would take an early morning

1802
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:18,040
flight and return the same day.

1803
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:20,600
Months have become nearly two years.

1804
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:24,920
The drug is preventing my cancer from growing and even causing it to shrink.

1805
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:31,200
Every month, I like Cape Air from Lebanon to Westchester and return with a one-month

1806
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:37,440
worth of oral medication. Everyone from the attendants who check me in to the pilots are

1807
02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:42,780
incredibly nice and pleasant to be around. If I make reservations three months and advance,

1808
02:21:43,180 --> 02:21:48,460
the price can't be beat. If I had to drive or take a bossy train, it would take much longer

1809
02:21:48,460 --> 02:21:53,980
and be more difficult. If there was only one flight a day, I would have to stay over another night

1810
02:21:53,980 --> 02:22:00,300
this would be much less convenient. I also want to say that Cape Air is always on time

1811
02:22:00,300 --> 02:22:07,240
and oftentimes early. So I've never been late for an appointment. I have flown in the early morning

1812
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:14,240
and I've flown in the late afternoon. The convenience is incredible. So Cape Air has played an

1813
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:20,320
outside role in my survival and I am here to recommend that this service continues. You never know

1814
02:22:20,320 --> 02:22:22,820
when another life may depend on it.

1815
02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:23,680
Thank you.

1816
02:22:23,740 --> 02:22:24,720
Thank you, Mr. Raesh.

1817
02:22:28,900 --> 02:22:29,500
Hello, everyone.

1818
02:22:29,780 --> 02:22:31,580
My name is Nersoldin Calibac,

1819
02:22:31,740 --> 02:22:32,780
and I'm a young professional,

1820
02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:34,820
living in Lebanon, New Hampshire.

1821
02:22:36,040 --> 02:22:39,260
I would say I do represent a slightly different demographic,

1822
02:22:39,800 --> 02:22:40,920
compared to the previous speakers.

1823
02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:43,120
But as a young professional,

1824
02:22:43,660 --> 02:22:46,300
I do like to explore different cities in the U.S.

1825
02:22:46,320 --> 02:22:47,980
and not internationally.

1826
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:50,920
And so often, flying internationally,

1827
02:22:51,980 --> 02:22:53,520
different options are competing with each other

1828
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:54,560
from different hubs.

1829
02:22:55,420 --> 02:22:57,380
And so the only option available to me

1830
02:22:57,380 --> 02:22:59,720
as a young professional, mostly is Boston.

1831
02:23:00,900 --> 02:23:04,560
And especially with the prices going up,

1832
02:23:04,820 --> 02:23:05,760
you compare different fears.

1833
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:08,940
You often come down to whether or not you

1834
02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:13,220
would want to make an earlier trip to Boston or take

1835
02:23:13,220 --> 02:23:13,740
capier.

1836
02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:20,440
And frankly speaking, considering taking capier to Boston

1837
02:23:20,440 --> 02:23:25,920
would add on to the cost by an altitude of around $200.

1838
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:29,500
Compare that to, for example, go into New York City

1839
02:23:29,500 --> 02:23:32,480
that would increase to $253.00.

1840
02:23:33,220 --> 02:23:35,760
And so where I'm getting at is my hope

1841
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:41,520
is for example what Contour is proposing that would

1842
02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:45,320
give us slightly more options to travel accessible.

1843
02:23:46,180 --> 02:23:49,200
So for example, having three different hubs

1844
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:54,160
as options for travel to different destinations compared to just one option that's

1845
02:23:55,000 --> 02:24:00,000
realistically accessible, would hopefully give us as travelers more accessible to different

1846
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:09,100
destinations that are comparably accessible price. And so I am to be frank with you many times

1847
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:15,040
when I had to calculate this economic cost of traveling somewhere, I have rarely come to the conclusion

1848
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:23,240
that Cape Era would be an accessible option to travel, both to New York or Boston, for Boston.

1849
02:24:23,660 --> 02:24:28,520
It often makes sense to just take Dartmouth Coach or just drive there for a New York

1850
02:24:28,520 --> 02:24:28,920
city.

1851
02:24:30,100 --> 02:24:36,680
I cannot justify the price of taking Cape Era instead of Dartmouth Coach.

1852
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:42,500
And if I consider traveling through JFK, that option becomes even less attainable.

1853
02:24:42,500 --> 02:24:47,560
So I could also say that I spoke to a lot of my peers,

1854
02:24:47,720 --> 02:24:51,360
a lot of my friends, who are of the same or similar age.

1855
02:24:51,640 --> 02:24:55,720
And they did share similar struggles that they had

1856
02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:57,740
was accessing different travel options.

1857
02:24:58,500 --> 02:25:01,940
And also, I would say that as just a regular passenger,

1858
02:25:02,740 --> 02:25:05,560
I do feel a little more safe, especially in the winter

1859
02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:07,460
when conditions are not as stable.

1860
02:25:08,060 --> 02:25:10,980
I'm traveling in a bigger and heavier jet

1861
02:25:10,980 --> 02:25:15,980
compared to a smaller plane that could face a little more of the turbulence that

1862
02:25:16,580 --> 02:25:23,140
different weather could offer us. So this is just my input and I do hope that this would be

1863
02:25:23,140 --> 02:25:25,480
also considered. Thank you. Thank you.

1864
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:31,680
Good evening. My name is Peter Spencer. I live in Hanover with

1865
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:37,440
my wife and my children. My youngest is 15 and coincidentally cycles regularly between Hanover and

1866
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:40,280
West Lebanon on the route 10 and yes, it does need to be widened.

1867
02:25:42,680 --> 02:25:49,500
I've been flying from Lebanon for almost 20 years now. I'm starting with Colganet that I think

1868
02:25:49,500 --> 02:25:54,500
when the contract for a small number of years, it did run bigger planes, I think 20

1869
02:25:54,500 --> 02:26:00,080
Seeders, I think for a short time, and then was taken over by Cape Per, I think in 2008.

1870
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:06,740
Over the last five years, I've averaged about 70 flights a year on business, mostly to New

1871
02:26:06,740 --> 02:26:12,440
city and also another time with my family mostly to Boston on leisure. But my message is simple,

1872
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:18,580
destination frequency and schedule to me and more important than the type of plant. I mean,

1873
02:26:18,580 --> 02:26:24,760
the plant is offered by boutique and contour a lovely, I would fire in joy, sorry, KP,

1874
02:26:24,820 --> 02:26:30,560
but I would fire, enjoy, flying on those plants, but that's not as important to me and many

1875
02:26:30,560 --> 02:26:35,780
of the people that I talk to is destination frequency and schedule. Destination and a combination

1876
02:26:35,780 --> 02:26:41,920
of Logan provides the connections around the world, and I do fly regularly international and

1877
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:48,140
use those connections. Flying to New York through white planes provides access for business,

1878
02:26:48,340 --> 02:26:53,840
it provides access for health care, it provides access for leisure as well. Frequency is also

1879
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:59,280
very important. Having multiple flights a day is important. Flying into a connecting hub is

1880
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:03,580
only useful if you're able to connect efficiently to another plane. If you fly for that hub

1881
02:27:03,580 --> 02:27:07,080
today, it really limits the options that are available.

1882
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:10,420
So having the frequency of the

1883
02:27:10,420 --> 02:27:15,180
flights at K-Pair provides, I think, four flights to Boston, two flights to New York is extremely

1884
02:27:15,180 --> 02:27:20,140
compelling. Contours proposal only offers twelve flights, I think, in total a week, which

1885
02:27:20,140 --> 02:27:24,780
is, I think, a quarter of the flights of almost in comparison. And then, thirdly, schedule.

1886
02:27:24,940 --> 02:27:30,740
Schedule is also important. As a frequent business traveler to New York City, it is important

1887
02:27:30,740 --> 02:27:37,440
for me to be able to arrive early in the working day, Cape A flies at 7.22, departure from

1888
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:43,740
Lebanon, which is OK, I think boutique, I think, flashed up a departure time of

1889
02:27:43,740 --> 02:27:48,940
8.50, which is almost an hour and a half later, that is not going to work for the people

1890
02:27:48,940 --> 02:27:52,080
that have to work in the city for the day, for example.

1891
02:27:54,220 --> 02:28:00,720
I would like to encourage Cape A to

1892
02:28:00,720 --> 02:28:06,640
18 years, I think. And that is one is at a tweak to the schedules, leaving earlier, perhaps

1893
02:28:06,640 --> 02:28:09,960
switching the schedule around with the Boston flight would be a great improvement, being

1894
02:28:09,960 --> 02:28:12,900
able to get to New York City earlier in the day.

1895
02:28:15,100 --> 02:28:17,600
I also call out the free ground transportation

1896
02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:23,720
in UK, and White Plains is excellent, it's free at land-guried at Hudsonyards in the city,

1897
02:28:23,880 --> 02:28:30,140
right on the subway there as well. And then finally, we've been here before Colganair, operated

1898
02:28:30,140 --> 02:28:35,520
with bigger planes nearly 20 years ago, but only around the service for a short number of years

1899
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:40,420
before K-Pair took over. And I think there was a big gap in the service between Colganair,

1900
02:28:40,480 --> 02:28:45,120
finishing and K-Pair started in up as well. I think perhaps Colganair terminated a little bit early.

1901
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:52,580
Bigger planes alone are not the answer, but destination frequency schedule are and I do believe

1902
02:28:52,580 --> 02:28:58,360
that with K-Pair it will provide a compelling service for the community. Thank you.

1903
02:28:58,360 --> 02:28:59,380
Thank you.

1904
02:29:07,670 --> 02:29:09,230
My name is Sean O'Donnell.

1905
02:29:09,430 --> 02:29:11,990
I'm a Vermont resident and a small business owner.

1906
02:29:15,730 --> 02:29:20,430
I'm a regular traveler, often in partnership with JetBlue

1907
02:29:20,430 --> 02:29:24,350
or Delta, currently I'm flying around Trip Roughly every three weeks.

1908
02:29:25,070 --> 02:29:28,830
I have previously submitted comments in support of Cape Bear

1909
02:29:28,830 --> 02:29:31,370
for all of the reasons we've just discussed primarily

1910
02:29:31,370 --> 02:29:33,330
flexibility and schedule.

1911
02:29:33,950 --> 02:29:36,450
We've got my attention tonight, if I understood it correctly,

1912
02:29:36,450 --> 02:29:41,510
is that the boutique proposal includes ground replacement ground shuttle replacement service

1913
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:43,010
in the event of a flight cancellation.

1914
02:29:44,090 --> 02:29:48,930
Is that true, and if it is, can K-Pair provide similar arrangements perhaps in combination

1915
02:29:48,930 --> 02:29:49,910
with Dartmouth Coach?

1916
02:29:50,370 --> 02:29:50,890
Thank you.

1917
02:29:57,680 --> 02:29:57,980
Hello.

1918
02:29:58,560 --> 02:29:59,980
My name is Sean K.

1919
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,840
Bill spelled S. E. A. N. and K. H. I. L. L. I can't believe it's already been four years. I feel like we just did this.

1920
02:30:11,740 --> 02:30:26,560
I'm one of your neighbors to the West and Woodstock, and though firmly committed to my family's home and farm and Woodstock, my career and professional interests require that my firm, that I be in my firm's offices and either Boston or New York on a weekly basis.

1921
02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:31,960
My company supports managed honeybee populations for businesses and municipalities across

1922
02:30:31,960 --> 02:30:33,300
more than 26 cities.

1923
02:30:34,060 --> 02:30:38,040
Our work in research and honeybee health, we believe contributes in a small way to food security

1924
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:42,260
and agricultural resilience, something that is interesting to rural communities.

1925
02:30:43,180 --> 02:30:48,000
Living in Woodstock, but committing weekly means that in the four years since we last discussed

1926
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:54,280
the essential air services agreement, I have probably flown on more than 250 kb flights

1927
02:30:54,280 --> 02:31:01,680
to and from Lebanon. I use I rely on this service. The service has enabled me to remain at the

1928
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:06,740
helm of my firm and at the same time participate near fully in family life here. During the

1929
02:31:06,740 --> 02:31:11,040
shortening season I fly out Monday mornings to attend to the company and fly back on Thursday

1930
02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:16,380
evenings to attend to the accumulated sap with uncle. This council should be pleased with Cape

1931
02:31:16,380 --> 02:31:22,120
Air as an essential air services vendor. It is enabling the exact goal of the air services agreement.

1932
02:31:28,500 --> 02:31:36,120
It's meaningful link and it allows me to drive and income in an urban area and spend those revenues here.

1933
02:31:36,680 --> 02:31:37,540
The service is excellent.

1934
02:31:38,200 --> 02:31:40,360
Cape air looks after its passengers very well.

1935
02:31:40,780 --> 02:31:45,440
They're more timely than any airline I know, of course they're friendly and courteous.

1936
02:31:46,000 --> 02:31:48,920
And after 18 years they have figured out how to make it work.

1937
02:31:49,160 --> 02:31:49,720
It just works.

1938
02:31:50,520 --> 02:31:53,640
The other proposals should not match the frequency of service the Cape air offers.

1939
02:31:53,940 --> 02:31:55,720
They do not presently have gates at Logan.

1940
02:31:55,720 --> 02:32:00,680
I believe. I'm not in the airline industry, but I think that's sort of a difficult challenge.

1941
02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:06,960
With Cape Air, we've had 18 years of reliable, consistent, and friendly service.

1942
02:32:07,640 --> 02:32:10,280
We have a fair structure that we understand and is reasonable.

1943
02:32:11,080 --> 02:32:15,720
More importantly, we have an undeniable track record of success that now spans almost two decades.

1944
02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:19,140
I hope the Council will recommend Cape Air's continued service.

1945
02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:24,700
I believe that it's the best for our community, and I think for most of us in this room that commute, it's the best choice.

1946
02:32:24,700 --> 02:32:26,660
Thank you.

1947
02:32:26,660 --> 02:32:27,820
Thank you.

1948
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,920
Hello, my name is Bill Sandy and I live in Woodstock.

1949
02:32:35,800 --> 02:32:44,680
I've been flying Cape Air for 10 years now, and I cannot beat Alice's story, but I have something similar.

1950
02:32:45,140 --> 02:32:49,920
One of my best experiences with Cape Air and I've got many positive experiences.

1951
02:32:50,860 --> 02:32:58,060
Eight weeks ago, Dartmouth-Hitchcock diagnosed me with a partially detached retina.

1952
02:32:59,200 --> 02:33:03,140
I called up, my doctor first, and then K-bear second.

1953
02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:08,900
Nina picked up at K-bear, and she said, I'm so sorry, the flight is full, but

1954
02:33:08,900 --> 02:33:10,420
Bill, hold on just a second.

1955
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:15,380
Two minutes later, she came back on, and she said, well, I've checked with the pilot

1956
02:33:15,980 --> 02:33:20,280
and we've done some waiting balances, and we're going to get you on tomorrow's

1957
02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:21,720
flight at 7.22.

1958
02:33:22,820 --> 02:33:23,880
That was Friday.

1959
02:33:26,180 --> 02:33:28,660
Friday afternoon, I was being operated on.

1960
02:33:28,660 --> 02:33:33,080
And they saved the vision in my right eye.

1961
02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:34,640
Thanks, Cape bear.

1962
02:33:35,260 --> 02:33:36,140
I'm with Cape bear.

1963
02:33:36,780 --> 02:33:40,680
The service and the quality of their employees are unmatched.

1964
02:33:41,600 --> 02:33:42,200
They're the best.

1965
02:33:42,720 --> 02:33:43,620
Thank you.

1966
02:33:51,210 --> 02:33:53,490
Before we go to the online audience,

1967
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:57,190
anyone else here tonight would like something to another comment?

1968
02:33:59,770 --> 02:34:03,050
All right, I'll open it up to the online audience.

1969
02:34:04,730 --> 02:34:06,050
It's hard to see hand.

1970
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:11,770
So just come off and give me your name and location and have your three minutes.

1971
02:34:21,110 --> 02:34:22,770
I've lived in New York for months.

1972
02:34:23,450 --> 02:34:25,390
And for 20 years, I've been at this

1973
02:34:31,150 --> 02:34:31,890
as a time.

1974
02:34:32,530 --> 02:34:37,090
And so I have a few printed all of this institution options in the upper valley.

1975
02:34:37,370 --> 02:34:41,110
And my father, my third option is K.D.

1976
02:34:41,110 --> 02:34:42,450
through London Airport.

1977
02:34:43,590 --> 02:34:44,370
I feel okay.

1978
02:34:44,470 --> 02:34:47,430
There's a couple things that people said I wanted to just sign in.

1979
02:34:49,910 --> 02:34:53,090
One, I think the frequency and having multiple options

1980
02:34:53,090 --> 02:34:55,670
through the New York State is hugely important.

1981
02:34:56,010 --> 02:34:57,810
I actually have plenty of funds.

1982
02:34:58,030 --> 02:35:00,210
You had to vote the upper alley in New York.

1983
02:35:00,690 --> 02:35:03,110
I'm ready for the frequency, just a huge number of words.

1984
02:35:04,350 --> 02:35:10,150
I also want to say, repeat what others have said around the Christmas service.

1985
02:35:10,150 --> 02:35:15,090
I must say hi to Alan, I love Alan, Alan is absolutely fantastic.

1986
02:35:16,190 --> 02:35:20,650
I actually brought him and say that Nina had loved it in her court.

1987
02:35:22,070 --> 02:35:26,650
The community ties and connections and the fact that half of the time you can follow

1988
02:35:26,650 --> 02:35:32,150
up in her court is one, but from here we actually realize that our interview is

1989
02:35:33,290 --> 02:35:37,490
I think that I have a lot of people who lost a big figure.

1990
02:35:37,950 --> 02:35:40,210
It'd be nice to have another way to stand.

1991
02:35:40,890 --> 02:35:42,050
I mean, I shouldn't have that for them,

1992
02:35:42,270 --> 02:35:44,250
but I'd love that I have to keep it so best.

1993
02:35:44,630 --> 02:35:49,030
And it has really a people that we have really personally lost

1994
02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:50,630
this season for you.

1995
02:35:50,910 --> 02:35:55,430
So I would really urge you all to stay prepared and as always.

1996
02:35:56,350 --> 02:35:57,270
Thank you.

1997
02:36:02,150 --> 02:36:03,450
Next person on line.

1998
02:36:10,220 --> 02:36:11,300
Anyone else on line?

1999
02:37:00,260 --> 02:37:01,620
I don't

2000
02:37:17,170 --> 02:37:18,730
know if you're still there. We lost you

2001
02:37:25,290 --> 02:37:26,590
with this one more thing.

2002
02:37:29,440 --> 02:37:30,540
Adam, can you hear us?

2003
02:37:40,790 --> 02:37:50,090
We will try and come back to Adam in a minute. Is there anyone else online who would like to make comment?

2004
02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:53,860
Yes, I would like to make a comment.

2005
02:37:55,280 --> 02:37:55,520
Yes.

2006
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:55,640
It

2007
02:38:00,510 --> 02:38:06,650
looks too, it has a rare blade size, can you take your name?

2008
02:38:15,870 --> 02:38:17,950
I'm sure you used up,

2009
02:38:26,500 --> 02:38:29,860
so you can take care of it.

2010
02:38:29,860 --> 02:38:32,920
If you wasn't looking here, I would not have been able to

2011
02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:37,440
hold it.

2012
02:38:37,460 --> 02:38:43,360
So, I keep going back to the way back

2013
02:38:48,480 --> 02:38:50,020
to 24 hours.

2014
02:38:50,220 --> 02:38:51,480
This is what I did.

2015
02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:56,460
From 11 a.m. to my office in three hours.

2016
02:38:56,460 --> 02:38:58,900
Nobody has to be sad because

2017
02:39:02,390 --> 02:39:04,790
I'm in a dead end, this has been like,

2018
02:39:04,810 --> 02:39:05,290
honestly,

2019
02:39:14,680 --> 02:39:15,920
I'm going to all the

2020
02:39:20,010 --> 02:39:21,050
family see everybody.

2021
02:39:37,700 --> 02:39:38,340
Thank you.

2022
02:39:43,460 --> 02:39:44,640
Next time line comment,

2023
02:39:56,260 --> 02:39:57,700
since Nolan's coming off me, I'm just going to start

2024
02:39:57,700 --> 02:40:00,780
Adam, are you back on? I'm going to finish.

2025
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:07,100
All right, yeah, I'm starting to have a better start of rolling through.

2026
02:40:07,280 --> 02:40:07,780
No worries.

2027
02:40:50,130 --> 02:40:50,670
Oh, thank you. Thank you.

2028
02:40:56,170 --> 02:40:57,030
Anyone else online?

2029
02:41:04,420 --> 02:41:05,040
Go on twice.

2030
02:41:05,040 --> 02:41:11,980
All right. We'll close the public comment. I do, there's one kind of main question and I'm

2031
02:41:11,980 --> 02:41:18,200
sure this just mayors kept track if I miss anything. But Carl, can you just come up and explain

2032
02:41:18,200 --> 02:41:25,920
the part 380 waiver and some of the legal technicalities? Because I think we kind of covered some

2033
02:41:25,920 --> 02:41:31,820
of this four years ago, but just go through some of those nuances for us.

2034
02:41:35,560 --> 02:41:38,000
The part 380, the aircraft

2035
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:41,800
operates basically as a public charter.

2036
02:41:44,060 --> 02:41:46,800
So it fits kind of between a niche with the

2037
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:52,660
Federal Aviation Administration between aircraft that are less intense seats and aircraft

2038
02:41:52,660 --> 02:41:54,960
that are greater than 30 seats.

2039
02:41:57,320 --> 02:42:02,260
So it's operating as a charter. It would be a waiver for scheduled

2040
02:42:02,260 --> 02:42:09,380
air service at the airport. That being said, they're operating as a public schedule charter.

2041
02:42:11,720 --> 02:42:16,280
The thing we went through the last time was a potential waiver to go from two

2042
02:42:17,800 --> 02:42:22,840
engines to one engine. Oh, I don't know. Depending on the choice that you would make,

2043
02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:25,580
you would also, you would potentially need to make that waiver.

2044
02:42:28,240 --> 02:42:35,700
Kate Bear is a twin-engine which you don't have the, you wouldn't have the waiver right now.

2045
02:42:36,160 --> 02:42:40,900
We'll take you to have to make a single-engine waiver, a contour you'd have to make that part 380 waiver.

2046
02:42:44,710 --> 02:42:48,690
Is there any of those that we can't like go back on in the future?

2047
02:42:49,450 --> 02:42:59,750
Once you make the waiver, the ability to demand that type of service in the future is gone.

2048
02:43:03,410 --> 02:43:12,570
So if we went to a greater than 30-seat aircraft, we would essentially be locking ourselves in.

2049
02:43:13,050 --> 02:43:18,310
If we went to a greater than 30-seat aircraft, the airport has to become certificated again.

2050
02:43:18,310 --> 02:43:22,270
and that's when we have to bring the fire service back to the airport.

2051
02:43:24,010 --> 02:43:27,630
And can you just discuss what that implies for the city?

2052
02:43:29,330 --> 02:43:33,530
What it would imply would be having a fire department

2053
02:43:33,530 --> 02:43:37,230
certificate as airport rescue and firefighter

2054
02:43:39,470 --> 02:43:39,990
personnel.

2055
02:43:40,170 --> 02:43:46,510
We'd have to have personnel at the airport minimum 15 minutes before

2056
02:43:46,510 --> 02:43:51,030
in 15 minutes after any scheduled arrival or departure.

2057
02:43:52,650 --> 02:43:58,230
We'd essentially be paying the Lebanon Fire Department to come out and provide that service.

2058
02:43:58,970 --> 02:44:04,390
And then the airport itself would have to become certificate again for those flights.

2059
02:44:04,550 --> 02:44:11,730
We would have to have someone who is able to perform an airfield inspection at the airport again

2060
02:44:11,730 --> 02:44:19,250
the 15 minutes before or after any schedule the rival. So we'd also have to work on staffing

2061
02:44:19,250 --> 02:44:24,470
at the airport in terms of staffing. What does that mean? Like would you need new people?

2062
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:31,110
Yes, how many? I would probably need two people. This would be seven day week operation.

2063
02:44:32,670 --> 02:44:37,790
So I would have to bring some additional personnel in and depending on when the nighttime

2064
02:44:37,790 --> 02:44:47,650
arrivals come in I would also have to have a person there in terms of being

2065
02:44:47,650 --> 02:44:52,590
he said certificated what is for the airport having to do it again do we not

2066
02:44:52,590 --> 02:44:58,730
have to do that with boutique and k-bear and as of the plane we also do not have

2067
02:44:58,730 --> 02:44:59,530
to do it with contour

2068
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:00,380
Okay.

2069
02:45:03,620 --> 02:45:10,440
So the certification part isn't an issue then. Correct. We verify that with the regional report district office.

2070
02:45:15,320 --> 02:45:28,980
So I get back to my question though, if we went with an aircraft greater than 30 seats, does that mean that it's weird, like, four years from now, we're still, we're only going to be able to see proposals with over 30 seats.

2071
02:45:28,980 --> 02:45:46,740
No, they can propose anything which you're essentially waving, say if you go from two-engine aircraft to one-engine aircraft, in the future you cannot demand a two-engine aircraft for service.

2072
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:53,200
And only accept proposals from those two. I'm sorry, from a aircraft with two engines.

2073
02:45:53,200 --> 02:45:56,800
So, it's a limitation on what we can require in the proposal.

2074
02:45:57,160 --> 02:46:00,160
Correct. You're waving your requirements.

2075
02:46:04,000 --> 02:46:09,340
Just to be exceptionally clear, there aren't any proposals in front of us that have greater

2076
02:46:09,340 --> 02:46:11,180
than 30 seats in their place.

2077
02:46:11,540 --> 02:46:15,080
Correct. There's not a proposal that requires to re-certify the report.

2078
02:46:17,300 --> 02:46:20,020
Or have additional staff of staffing.

2079
02:46:22,440 --> 02:46:25,860
So we're meeting that by being just 30 seats.

2080
02:46:26,060 --> 02:46:26,540
Correct.

2081
02:46:32,340 --> 02:46:32,920
Thanks, Scott.

2082
02:46:33,320 --> 02:46:34,800
That's, you might as well take as I, other

2083
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:35,640
Council's may have questions.

2084
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:38,840
I just wanted to tackle that one first since that came up.

2085
02:46:38,960 --> 02:46:39,860
And it's a good point.

2086
02:46:40,520 --> 02:46:43,220
What, what is the, I suppose my ignorance here,

2087
02:46:43,220 --> 02:46:47,100
but what is the limitation that that a 30 seat plan cannot

2088
02:46:47,100 --> 02:46:49,700
make more than the number of

2089
02:46:50,520 --> 02:46:52,800
departures that arrivals that are currently in the schedule?

2090
02:46:53,780 --> 02:46:54,920
It's federal statute.

2091
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:55,680
Okay.

2092
02:46:55,680 --> 02:46:55,820
Okay.

2093
02:46:56,460 --> 02:47:00,340
The number of daily arrivals into bombs, sorry, weekly arrivals into

2094
02:47:00,340 --> 02:47:04,160
departures is based on the number of seats the aircraft has, but not

2095
02:47:04,160 --> 02:47:05,940
on actual arrivals into departures.

2096
02:47:08,340 --> 02:47:09,140
Yeah, I guess I can.

2097
02:47:09,720 --> 02:47:09,940
Yeah.

2098
02:47:10,520 --> 02:47:14,960
If your 30 seats are greater, you're limited to 12 per a central or

2099
02:47:14,960 --> 02:47:15,800
service.

2100
02:47:16,280 --> 02:47:17,980
9C and I believe you can go to 42.

2101
02:47:19,900 --> 02:47:24,900
Are there options for said carrier to be able to offer additional

2102
02:47:24,900 --> 02:47:28,600
of departures based on another category of service.

2103
02:47:29,560 --> 02:47:32,600
They can operate the additional departures at their own risk.

2104
02:47:33,300 --> 02:47:35,860
The Department of Transportation will only subsidize

2105
02:47:35,860 --> 02:47:40,060
on the under-essential service that whatever

2106
02:47:40,060 --> 02:47:42,380
number of flights based on the number of seats.

2107
02:47:43,900 --> 02:47:44,600
Thank you.

2108
02:47:46,560 --> 02:47:46,820
Council?

2109
02:47:46,920 --> 02:47:47,060
Yeah.

2110
02:47:50,020 --> 02:47:52,720
With regards to

2111
02:47:52,720 --> 02:47:55,540
I'm assuming everybody is paying landing fees, regardless.

2112
02:47:56,740 --> 02:47:58,340
Core of their Cape Aire, our boutique,

2113
02:47:58,940 --> 02:48:01,220
or contour your plant-paying landing fees, right?

2114
02:48:02,260 --> 02:48:07,580
Now, what is the impact of going from six flights a day

2115
02:48:07,580 --> 02:48:12,520
of landing fees to 12 per week on a larger aircraft?

2116
02:48:12,680 --> 02:48:15,360
What does that do for our revenue for landing fees?

2117
02:48:15,920 --> 02:48:19,860
Based on our current landing fees, landing fees structure.

2118
02:48:20,420 --> 02:48:21,680
It's based on way to the aircraft.

2119
02:48:21,680 --> 02:48:25,020
It would almost be a negligible difference for us.

2120
02:48:25,020 --> 02:48:26,600
It's almost almost a wash.

2121
02:48:27,740 --> 02:48:30,940
So we're not losing or we're really gaining anything out of

2122
02:48:30,940 --> 02:48:32,240
Programmer at revenue standpoint.

2123
02:48:38,010 --> 02:48:41,630
Can you just briefly on how in payments are going this year.

2124
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:45,230
And if there's any kind of like if that's reflective of nationwide trends

2125
02:48:45,230 --> 02:48:47,630
or not given costs for.

2126
02:48:48,470 --> 02:48:52,090
Currently we're down about a hundred and two hundred and fifty passengers

2127
02:48:52,090 --> 02:48:54,430
year over date from last year.

2128
02:48:54,430 --> 02:48:58,390
Last year, we were down about 1500 passengers.

2129
02:49:00,490 --> 02:49:01,210
This year,

2130
02:49:03,400 --> 02:49:07,920
it started out in March and April.

2131
02:49:09,020 --> 02:49:10,040
Tickets were already purchased.

2132
02:49:10,680 --> 02:49:13,500
They were slightly above last year.

2133
02:49:14,140 --> 02:49:18,340
The past three weeks or so, we've been slightly below

2134
02:49:18,900 --> 02:49:21,900
last year's average nationwide.

2135
02:49:21,900 --> 02:49:28,660
right now that is starting to level off and we're starting to see just a little bit of an increase coming.

2136
02:49:29,840 --> 02:49:36,160
But so like they dip in is the dip that that occurred that was saw in 2025 I mean even from our own

2137
02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:42,180
employment numbers that in the packet is that in line with national averages or is that you need to

2138
02:49:42,180 --> 02:49:46,920
than in there. That's kind of unique to love it on. Last year it was up slightly

2139
02:49:46,920 --> 02:49:47,580
nationwide.

2140
02:49:55,430 --> 02:49:55,590
Okay.

2141
02:49:56,490 --> 02:50:01,910
Mr. Mayor, you mentioned earlier the number of responses that were included in the

2142
02:50:01,910 --> 02:50:07,590
packet at the time that the packet was put together. We were around 320 responses,

2143
02:50:07,730 --> 02:50:14,210
which is what that is reflective of. We ran that the results of the survey again

2144
02:50:14,210 --> 02:50:25,910
afternoon as of about 4 p.m. and we were up to 620 responses. Just quickly the overall percentages

2145
02:50:26,610 --> 02:50:35,210
were contour at around 58 percent, okay, bare 31 percent, boutique 10 percent. I can break

2146
02:50:35,210 --> 02:50:41,470
down the specific route options for boutique and contour if you're interested.

2147
02:50:44,210 --> 02:50:48,430
Council's service. What does those percentages mean, David?

2148
02:50:49,210 --> 02:50:57,710
The of the of the 621 people who completed the survey and filled out which one they have a preference for.

2149
02:50:59,170 --> 02:51:04,330
357 of those 621 said contour preferred contour.

2150
02:51:05,630 --> 02:51:09,090
193 preferred Cape Air 60 preferred boutique.

2151
02:51:09,610 --> 02:51:12,150
It's just the percentage of the people who did the survey.

2152
02:51:17,890 --> 02:51:18,370
I had a question.

2153
02:51:19,770 --> 02:51:23,810
Did we ask did in the survey, and I'm guessing I know the question,

2154
02:51:24,010 --> 02:51:25,530
because we've got the form in front of us,

2155
02:51:25,630 --> 02:51:29,730
but did we track where these folks that are responding to our from?

2156
02:51:30,090 --> 02:51:30,830
We didn't.

2157
02:51:31,110 --> 02:51:32,050
I don't believe we did.

2158
02:51:32,610 --> 02:51:38,090
We've got for the boutique air and the contour air,

2159
02:51:38,090 --> 02:51:41,950
where there are multiple options to choose from, we ask which one they preferred.

2160
02:51:42,710 --> 02:51:48,930
We've got an email address, which we've hidden from what was printed out, and then we've got

2161
02:51:48,930 --> 02:51:54,170
there over all comments. But we did not ask where they were responding from.

2162
02:52:02,480 --> 02:52:08,700
I guess I'll just make an observation from the folks that spoke tonight.

2163
02:52:09,960 --> 02:52:16,580
There wasn't what's, you know, and I think capabilities to be really proud of their support that they

2164
02:52:16,580 --> 02:52:18,560
was shown here tonight.

2165
02:52:18,900 --> 02:52:21,580
Everybody did a great job with their presentations.

2166
02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:28,580
I have one glaring observation that I've seen tonight with the folks that have gotten up

2167
02:52:28,580 --> 02:52:36,680
and spoken is that not a single person that got up and spoke in favor of Cape Aire lives in

2168
02:52:38,920 --> 02:52:46,280
The only person that lives in that got up and spoke from Lebanon was suggest that we go

2169
02:52:46,280 --> 02:52:46,820
with contour.

2170
02:52:47,320 --> 02:52:59,020
I'm not making any statements on anything other than it's, I personally have lived here

2171
02:52:59,020 --> 02:52:59,900
for 53 years.

2172
02:53:00,160 --> 02:53:03,280
I've never flown out of Lebanon airport ever once.

2173
02:53:03,280 --> 02:53:06,860
It's never been really an option for me.

2174
02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:15,260
I don't know what, I'm not an expert at any of this.

2175
02:53:15,560 --> 02:53:28,840
So I think it's just a valid observation to see that this, you know, our airport seems to be very important to folks that are not living in Lebanon.

2176
02:53:31,310 --> 02:53:34,430
do with what you want, but it's an observation.

2177
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:37,790
Councillor Key, you want to make a commenter?

2178
02:53:38,190 --> 02:53:41,730
Yes, I just wanted to circle back to the data on the

2179
02:53:41,730 --> 02:53:42,130
employment.

2180
02:53:43,610 --> 02:53:46,790
And I thought I heard you say it was up last year?

2181
02:53:47,470 --> 02:53:47,990
Nationwide.

2182
02:53:49,350 --> 02:53:51,730
So, 11 in it was the what?

2183
02:53:52,150 --> 02:53:52,930
15% down.

2184
02:53:54,150 --> 02:53:58,450
And what do you think that might have been related to?

2185
02:53:59,590 --> 02:54:08,110
You know, we did have some fog that was surprisingly occurring in the summer early mornings

2186
02:54:08,110 --> 02:54:11,890
last year, which may have like this morning and the other morning.

2187
02:54:12,790 --> 02:54:17,690
Yeah, I don't know if that was related to how dry it was in relation to the air temperatures

2188
02:54:17,690 --> 02:54:22,470
last summer, but that may have had an effect on it.

2189
02:54:22,470 --> 02:54:27,670
This is pretty dramatic that it have been in the 20,000 range now.

2190
02:54:28,090 --> 02:54:29,390
It's down.

2191
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:32,870
The numbers are the employment numbers.

2192
02:54:33,190 --> 02:54:36,530
So rather than 20,000, you have half of that for an employment,

2193
02:54:37,390 --> 02:54:39,970
the other half would be coming off the airplane at 11 on.

2194
02:54:41,130 --> 02:54:43,810
So about 10,000, while a little over 10,000

2195
02:54:43,810 --> 02:54:46,450
employment last year, we were about 8,500

2196
02:54:46,450 --> 02:54:52,710
employment. Just for everyone, Carl, can you explain the importance of having 10,000

2197
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:58,070
employment here? That's changed. Oh, it has? Oh, then fix, blame the new stuff for everyone.

2198
02:54:58,670 --> 02:55:06,330
Yes, when Department of Transportation Reauthorization Bill was passed a couple of years ago,

2199
02:55:06,810 --> 02:55:14,300
they removed the 10,000 employment funding deck. It used to be if you were

2200
02:55:14,300 --> 02:55:21,360
$10,000 in playments, you would receive about $1,000,000, and if you went to $9,999,

2201
02:55:21,500 --> 02:55:23,120
you would receive $150,000.

2202
02:55:23,680 --> 02:55:24,220
Great funding.

2203
02:55:25,980 --> 02:55:27,580
That funding formula has changed.

2204
02:55:27,940 --> 02:55:35,060
It is now based set rate per passenger rather than having that large cliff.

2205
02:55:35,420 --> 02:55:35,620
Oh, it.

2206
02:55:36,920 --> 02:55:44,120
But that being said, it's about $135,000 in federal funding for projects for a passenger.

2207
02:55:48,610 --> 02:55:49,570
$135,000.

2208
02:55:49,770 --> 02:55:50,030
I'm sorry.

2209
02:55:51,130 --> 02:55:51,610
$135.

2210
02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:52,790
Oh, okay.

2211
02:55:53,350 --> 02:55:54,210
That's why I wanted to double cash.

2212
02:55:54,310 --> 02:55:55,550
That's a lot of money.

2213
02:55:56,470 --> 02:55:59,350
I didn't know the federal government to be so generous.

2214
02:56:00,230 --> 02:56:00,370
Okay.

2215
02:56:00,750 --> 02:56:03,210
You haven't seen our goal-plated faucets?

2216
02:56:03,930 --> 02:56:06,830
No, that somehow I didn't get a copy of those.

2217
02:56:09,310 --> 02:56:14,050
I counseles any other questions for a car or can kind of more open it up to discussion.

2218
02:56:17,210 --> 02:56:21,030
Anyone want to offer some observations or thoughts on choices.

2219
02:56:21,570 --> 02:56:22,290
Council for Berlin.

2220
02:56:23,270 --> 02:56:27,550
Yeah, this want to comment on the public comment.

2221
02:56:29,850 --> 02:56:31,270
This is a lot of feedback.

2222
02:56:31,570 --> 02:56:32,490
This is really impressive.

2223
02:56:32,650 --> 02:56:37,250
I was very impressed with what was in the packet and to know that this is only half of what we actually

2224
02:56:37,250 --> 02:56:43,790
receive is very impressive. So when I first read the feedback, I saw a support for Cape Ares,

2225
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:51,430
no surprise. I was very surprised by the feedback for contour, and I thought about it. I said,

2226
02:56:51,430 --> 02:56:58,050
you know what, I love people are excited about the potential for JFK and Dallas, right? I'm kind

2227
02:56:58,050 --> 02:57:05,530
excited about that too. But in reviewing it again and hearing some of the comments tonight,

2228
02:57:08,710 --> 02:57:16,710
it strikes me that most of the Cape Air positive comments are by people who do fly, have

2229
02:57:16,710 --> 02:57:25,710
flown, do make use of love in an airport in a regular basis. And I think the majority of the

2230
02:57:25,710 --> 02:57:33,810
to our very aspirational. I would love that that would be so cool and I wonder how much of that

2231
02:57:33,810 --> 02:57:39,750
will actually manifest if we were to go with one of those proposals.

2232
02:57:43,710 --> 02:57:45,270
I have no words to go with

2233
02:57:45,270 --> 02:57:51,430
that. I was one of my primary observation and having reviewed public comment because like I said,

2234
02:57:51,430 --> 02:57:57,050
this is a really impressive amount of feedback that we've received from the upper valley and I was

2235
02:57:57,050 --> 02:58:00,970
I want to say that this is Levenon's airport, but there's no mistake.

2236
02:58:01,270 --> 02:58:02,250
This is the upper rail is airport.

2237
02:58:02,830 --> 02:58:05,150
We're just the stories of them.

2238
02:58:08,270 --> 02:58:11,330
So, I'll have more comments, but we'll start there.

2239
02:58:12,090 --> 02:58:12,810
Councillor Appleton.

2240
02:58:13,370 --> 02:58:17,290
Sure. Yeah, so I just wanted them to say that I think one of the advantages of the city

2241
02:58:17,290 --> 02:58:21,050
and also the region is that we are exceptionally well-connected,

2242
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:25,530
regionally in terms of transportation options in terms of having

2243
02:58:25,530 --> 02:58:28,070
like this essential air service, but also having a very frequent

2244
02:58:28,070 --> 02:58:30,650
and regular bus service, and also having an Amtrak service.

2245
02:58:31,470 --> 02:58:34,010
And part of the reason that those are all such high quality

2246
02:58:34,010 --> 02:58:36,550
in May thrives, so well, is because that they

2247
02:58:36,550 --> 02:58:38,250
are a little bit redundant there.

2248
02:58:38,370 --> 02:58:41,430
It'll decompete on the similar routes and provide service

2249
02:58:41,430 --> 02:58:42,490
in this way.

2250
02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:48,230
And I think that being able to keep that sort of frequency

2251
02:58:48,230 --> 02:58:51,190
and the sorts of similar destinations where

2252
02:58:51,190 --> 02:58:54,710
we are ensuring that the big regional hubs

2253
02:58:54,710 --> 02:58:56,930
that we are connected to in the Northeast Boston

2254
02:58:56,930 --> 02:59:00,150
in New York, in particular, having those be

2255
02:59:02,070 --> 02:59:04,590
within easy access, is I think probably going to be

2256
02:59:04,590 --> 02:59:06,970
our most important thing more than able to be

2257
02:59:06,970 --> 02:59:09,870
able to access once or twice daily flights

2258
02:59:09,870 --> 02:59:13,050
into Washington, DC, or connecting out to the JFK.

2259
02:59:14,210 --> 02:59:16,110
Yeah, Creek Winsierly does matter, and that is what

2260
02:59:16,110 --> 02:59:17,770
makes these services reliable.

2261
02:59:17,950 --> 02:59:21,610
I think Lebanon is a little bit, frankly, I can't

2262
02:59:21,610 --> 02:59:26,910
to have them policy-wise, why live it in qualifies for essential air service, but now that we do,

2263
02:59:28,530 --> 02:59:36,370
I think is a little bit different where we're not connecting this sort of disparate population as a single lifeline

2264
02:59:36,370 --> 02:59:41,390
through these sorts of flights that would, I think, lean towards, you know, big major hub connections.

2265
02:59:41,390 --> 02:59:45,450
We're actually, we're integrating into a relatively metropolitan northeast.

2266
02:59:45,450 --> 02:59:50,110
and so yeah, I'm just saying I think frequency does matter here and that's kind of where

2267
02:59:50,110 --> 02:59:51,130
what I'm looking at.

2268
02:59:52,410 --> 02:59:55,030
Councillor Stavis and the Assistant Mayor.

2269
02:59:55,710 --> 02:59:59,890
So as having been a frequent international traveler.

2270
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:17,120
When I was a Dartmouth, I flew many cave air flights and I really appreciated the white, the white planes flight and the ride into midtown Manhattan was incredibly convenient, much more convenient than JFK.

2271
03:00:18,960 --> 03:00:25,840
And I'd also like to make the observation that while it is true that many of the people

2272
03:00:25,840 --> 03:00:31,140
who spoke here this evening do not live in Lebanon, I think that it is to Lebanon's

2273
03:00:31,140 --> 03:00:39,300
great advantage that those people utilize our services here in this city to conduct their

2274
03:00:39,300 --> 03:00:46,460
I've sent their businesses, and that that is that redowns favorably to us.

2275
03:00:47,700 --> 03:00:51,060
So I have nothing but good things to say about Cape Air.

2276
03:00:51,380 --> 03:00:54,460
I've had long and varied experience with them.

2277
03:00:55,600 --> 03:01:01,340
I find that their service is exceptional, and the frequency of the flights really makes a difference.

2278
03:01:03,260 --> 03:01:04,260
Thank you.

2279
03:01:05,140 --> 03:01:09,280
Buckle up, because I'm not entirely sure where my thoughts are going to go, but I have

2280
03:01:09,280 --> 03:01:13,200
quite a few of them, so I'll try to make them breath, full of it in form.

2281
03:01:14,040 --> 03:01:20,060
I agree with Councillor Cole, I noticed I noticed four years ago and noticed again tonight

2282
03:01:20,620 --> 03:01:27,460
and in reviewing the other comments that did not mention municipality that indeed we do get

2283
03:01:27,460 --> 03:01:30,040
a lot of input from people who are not in Lebanon.

2284
03:01:30,660 --> 03:01:37,180
When I talked to my neighbors, especially when I talked to them about this, I think there was

2285
03:01:37,180 --> 03:01:45,220
a general, I would characterize what I heard as people aren't using Cape Air. People would

2286
03:01:45,220 --> 03:01:53,360
be inclined to use contour, the service that's being presented to us through contour. I do

2287
03:01:53,360 --> 03:01:58,780
have a concern that maybe they wouldn't be as frequent flyers, and I think that's what I'm

2288
03:01:59,740 --> 03:02:06,140
what is potentially leading my decision. Personally, I have not flown Cape Air before,

2289
03:02:06,140 --> 03:02:10,540
it's personal failing of mine because I do travel a lot and I should

2290
03:02:10,540 --> 03:02:12,620
I'm taking the coach tomorrow.

2291
03:02:13,780 --> 03:02:21,680
But I do think that the base that exists right now is important to consider

2292
03:02:22,840 --> 03:02:29,140
when we talk in advance transit about what we see the future of the organization being

2293
03:02:30,300 --> 03:02:34,660
there's often a tension between do we expand the services that we already have

2294
03:02:34,660 --> 03:02:37,100
in the areas that we already have them.

2295
03:02:37,260 --> 03:02:39,940
And strengthen them, or do we expand to more communities?

2296
03:02:40,840 --> 03:02:43,540
And two day, I think there's been much more appetite

2297
03:02:43,540 --> 03:02:46,740
for strengthening what we have that's already been working.

2298
03:02:47,380 --> 03:02:50,280
Personally, I think I'd be more inclined to use contour.

2299
03:02:52,560 --> 03:02:55,220
I think many of the people that I know

2300
03:02:55,220 --> 03:02:57,020
would be more inclined to use contour.

2301
03:02:57,980 --> 03:03:00,720
I also don't know that they would use it as frequently

2302
03:03:00,720 --> 03:03:08,260
and as was mentioned, I believe Councillor Fort Burley mentioned, it's more of a potential

2303
03:03:08,260 --> 03:03:19,880
than it is a concrete reality that I'm still not. A hundred percent sure, I also was very

2304
03:03:19,880 --> 03:03:27,040
impressed with what boutique mentioned. I think had neither of the two been in the community before

2305
03:03:27,040 --> 03:03:32,200
tape and boutique, it would certainly be a very different conversation than it is right now.

2306
03:03:34,300 --> 03:03:41,740
I don't know whether or not I've fully decided what my preference is, but I do think there

2307
03:03:41,740 --> 03:03:49,320
is value to considering that we have something built here that we should continue to expand rather

2308
03:03:50,660 --> 03:03:54,940
than, you know, swap it for something that may be better.

2309
03:03:58,010 --> 03:03:58,190
Period.

2310
03:04:01,540 --> 03:04:04,760
Meet it going, we can destroy a sort of kind of run out of steam.

2311
03:04:06,020 --> 03:04:07,180
Counselors, any other comments?

2312
03:04:07,640 --> 03:04:09,820
I've my own, but I'll let everyone else go first.

2313
03:04:10,560 --> 03:04:13,700
Before Jay throws something at me, probably rightfully so.

2314
03:04:14,720 --> 03:04:15,860
Yeah, I'll circle back around.

2315
03:04:17,120 --> 03:04:28,780
You know, one concern I have about this idea of expanding, looking for maybe moving out of New England is the frequency.

2316
03:04:30,260 --> 03:04:40,600
I think of, you know, if you're someone who's perhaps traveling internationally, flying out of JFK, water the odds that that one flight for days actually going to meet your needs.

2317
03:04:40,600 --> 03:04:48,520
So, I do think the frequency piece is really important to assessing our options.

2318
03:04:53,460 --> 03:05:02,740
It sounds like there's potential for additional at risk flights, though, right?

2319
03:05:02,780 --> 03:05:12,220
I mean, we're talking about 12 a week for contour, but it sounds like there's potential

2320
03:05:12,220 --> 03:05:18,580
if the demand is there for additional, do I understand that correctly?

2321
03:05:20,440 --> 03:05:25,100
Yeah, I think in their proposal there is, they said there's a kind of potential for

2322
03:05:25,100 --> 03:05:29,500
up to two at-risk flights per week if I'm remembering the slide correctly.

2323
03:05:30,760 --> 03:05:32,180
Is that, is that count?

2324
03:05:33,320 --> 03:05:37,020
Well, no, so like what they mean by at-risk is it's just not hard of the AS for the rest.

2325
03:05:37,160 --> 03:05:41,680
So it's just, it's not regulated the same way, so like they would just be providing that

2326
03:05:41,680 --> 03:05:50,080
to write, but if there was demand, they could do, or is there a cap on those, I think we're

2327
03:05:50,080 --> 03:05:55,180
if I'm not mistaken, I'm talking about the subsidy proceed. They're getting through the EAS plan,

2328
03:05:55,660 --> 03:05:57,320
right? But if you say risk versus risk versus risk versus risk versus risk.

2329
03:05:57,320 --> 03:06:02,640
Yeah, I see additional flights. Good question for you. No, yeah. So there wouldn't be a cap on

2330
03:06:02,640 --> 03:06:06,020
the at risk because they're running it at their own rate. They don't get hateful, right? So really,

2331
03:06:06,220 --> 03:06:10,120
it's less of a, I'd say, a cap on the flights and more of like a floor that you're going to have on

2332
03:06:10,120 --> 03:06:12,620
like a per-flight minimum number of passengers.

2333
03:06:13,460 --> 03:06:16,400
Correct, because you have a certain fixed cost

2334
03:06:16,400 --> 03:06:18,900
for every flight you take, regardless of the passengers,

2335
03:06:19,100 --> 03:06:21,660
plus your variable cost, and I don't even understand that all.

2336
03:06:22,300 --> 03:06:24,540
But you'd have to make sure that you get

2337
03:06:24,540 --> 03:06:26,820
a certain number of minimum passengers

2338
03:06:26,820 --> 03:06:29,080
to make that flight profitable to take,

2339
03:06:29,080 --> 03:06:31,640
that really make it realistic to take that risk.

2340
03:06:32,140 --> 03:06:36,080
So that would be kind of a consideration as opposed to the FAA.

2341
03:06:36,180 --> 03:06:38,220
It says, you have this many seats, you get to run.

2342
03:06:38,220 --> 03:06:42,120
And it's many flights, pretty cut and dry for me with somehow.

2343
03:06:42,760 --> 03:06:45,180
I guess my point is that if there was demand,

2344
03:06:45,900 --> 03:06:47,680
and they could fill those seats,

2345
03:06:48,320 --> 03:06:51,620
there's potential for higher frequency from contour.

2346
03:06:55,360 --> 03:06:56,940
And I'm in the same boat.

2347
03:06:57,120 --> 03:07:02,020
I don't really know how I'm just making some observations.

2348
03:07:03,120 --> 03:07:05,160
And I have some personal feelings.

2349
03:07:05,380 --> 03:07:07,680
And yet I'm trying to take into consideration

2350
03:07:07,680 --> 03:07:15,100
everybody else's, you know, needs as well. So, I'm, I'm kind of in, I'm both here myself

2351
03:07:15,100 --> 03:07:24,280
to be honest with you, so yeah. Yeah, Councilor Kate. Yeah, my, so I have had in my past some trips

2352
03:07:24,280 --> 03:07:34,120
on Cape Air and I didn't find it was difficult because it's only nine seats, a lot of the times

2353
03:07:34,120 --> 03:07:40,320
that I would have probably tried to do Cape Air since then, it's just never been a seat available.

2354
03:07:40,940 --> 03:07:48,160
So a small plane, you know, can only carry nine people, and I've been on the plane

2355
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:53,900
when it's full, and there's a special seat, well, maybe not your new or model, but the last time.

2356
03:07:54,360 --> 03:07:56,240
That only a short person, like myself,

2357
03:07:58,520 --> 03:08:01,640
had to sit there, and you just, you had just, was on the top

2358
03:08:01,640 --> 03:08:03,420
of the airplane the whole time.

2359
03:08:03,420 --> 03:08:11,520
So, you know, I, and we had, you know, four kids we could never give, there's no options.

2360
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:16,580
So, and I know that there's people in the community that a small plane is, you know,

2361
03:08:16,660 --> 03:08:17,940
they feel that it's unsafe.

2362
03:08:18,380 --> 03:08:26,420
I never had that sense, but, so I just, I like that we have had an experience with a company

2363
03:08:26,420 --> 03:08:31,600
and it's been positive for people that are using it all the time, especially, but I don't

2364
03:08:31,600 --> 03:08:55,580
No, if we're really achieving the full potential of who might use the airline anyway, we have the Dartmouth coach that I know a lot of people are taking down a Boston, and if we made a change to an airline that maybe could support growth in more landings, et cetera.

2365
03:08:55,580 --> 03:09:02,820
I don't know. You have to kind of weigh that too. Does that open us up to more people that

2366
03:09:02,820 --> 03:09:08,240
would be interested in flying out of 11? And that hasn't been able to.

2367
03:09:13,080 --> 03:09:19,460
I think it's a classic case of you have a known entity and it's comfortable and that delivers

2368
03:09:19,460 --> 03:09:25,580
kind of a small town easy. Walk up, you're on the plane almost instantly,

2369
03:09:25,580 --> 03:09:31,260
kind of experience that you can't get anywhere else. And that's really charming, free parking is great,

2370
03:09:31,260 --> 03:09:38,720
all that other good stuff. And then you separately have people that may aspire to doing something

2371
03:09:38,720 --> 03:09:45,020
different having more options. But those options are also down the road in Manchester or in

2372
03:09:45,020 --> 03:09:52,200
somewhere else for the family trip or whatever to some exotic port of call. So we have the thing that's

2373
03:09:52,200 --> 03:09:58,160
working, it's meeting a lot of needs, it's sort of comfortable, but limited, and we have

2374
03:09:58,160 --> 03:10:05,200
these other possibilities that might reveal themselves, or may not.

2375
03:10:06,080 --> 03:10:09,860
I don't know that I know enough to know which is really right.

2376
03:10:10,580 --> 03:10:17,220
I would want to maybe look at the data of people's aspirations, or maybe ask the questions differently

2377
03:10:17,220 --> 03:10:21,840
in order to relinder with in order to jump up into that choice.

2378
03:10:23,780 --> 03:10:24,120
Yeah.

2379
03:10:25,240 --> 03:10:26,200
Yep, council service.

2380
03:10:27,360 --> 03:10:31,940
I don't know how much useful data you can glean from the past.

2381
03:10:32,560 --> 03:10:36,340
But a million years ago, I was on the airport advisory committee.

2382
03:10:36,800 --> 03:10:43,300
Back when there were 18 seat planes flying in and out of Lebanon.

2383
03:10:44,560 --> 03:10:46,540
And as I recall,

2384
03:10:47,260 --> 03:10:49,640
in plainments were down,

2385
03:10:49,740 --> 03:10:50,880
like way down.

2386
03:10:51,440 --> 03:10:54,480
And it was a real problem for the city at that point.

2387
03:10:55,860 --> 03:10:59,400
And so, if you can draw any kind of correlation

2388
03:10:59,400 --> 03:11:02,680
from that past experience with larger planes,

2389
03:11:03,080 --> 03:11:06,200
to a potential future experience with larger planes,

2390
03:11:06,320 --> 03:11:09,420
I just prefer that as one experience.

2391
03:11:09,420 --> 03:11:23,290
And to offer my own thoughts, having now gone through this my second time around, but I mean really similar to prior times.

2392
03:11:24,070 --> 03:11:40,690
The choice comes down to really, do you go and do choose the option that leverages frequency and convenience, which will have a natural emphasis on more business related travel or the need for interline connectivity for leisure travel.

2393
03:11:40,690 --> 03:11:50,150
Or do you go with something that's more opening up recreational travel with a far less kind of flight options and throughput?

2394
03:11:51,270 --> 03:12:02,130
And you would need to really be very careful that the leisure travel would fill up in the same way.

2395
03:12:02,130 --> 03:12:06,230
to bat basically to offset the loss of business travel.

2396
03:12:07,270 --> 03:12:10,290
And I think really when you get down to it

2397
03:12:10,290 --> 03:12:13,370
from an overall approach business travel is a lot less competitive.

2398
03:12:14,270 --> 03:12:18,130
The convenience and location is ultimately the most critical factor.

2399
03:12:19,510 --> 03:12:22,070
Being able to fly directly into the airport,

2400
03:12:22,150 --> 03:12:26,370
you want to arrive in and come out of an interline

2401
03:12:26,370 --> 03:12:33,050
connectivity is also important, but especially to Boston and New York.

2402
03:12:34,210 --> 03:12:36,990
Leisure Travel is just frankly a lot more competitive.

2403
03:12:37,170 --> 03:12:40,450
We've got Burlington, Manchester, Boston, Hartford, Connecticut.

2404
03:12:40,570 --> 03:12:46,770
You've got the Dartmouth coach that runs to both New York City and to Boston, Logan, and

2405
03:12:46,770 --> 03:12:47,750
Boston, back Bay.

2406
03:12:48,710 --> 03:12:54,970
I think that in that vein, when you're traveling for leisure, you expect to be traveling.

2407
03:12:54,970 --> 03:13:15,830
Right, like the whole point is like, well, I'm going to be stuck going there all day anyway, so I might as well book, you know, like you're not as as time sensitive, but I just, I my concern is that we will not at generate the leisure travel and claimants necessary to offset the loss of business travel and payments.

2408
03:13:17,210 --> 03:13:29,290
At the one point I would counterpoint, I'd make to the Assistant Mayor and Councillor Cole about who's in the community who's speaking is I do want to emphasize and I actually agree with this wholeheartedly capabilities in our community.

2409
03:13:29,950 --> 03:13:35,430
There are residents, there are people coming and shopping in our businesses, they live here, they work here.

2410
03:13:36,010 --> 03:13:42,350
So I understand the supporters may not be here, but the supporters are enabling people to live here.

2411
03:13:42,350 --> 03:13:47,420
and they are our residents. And I think that's really important. It's important to me.

2412
03:13:48,710 --> 03:13:54,450
But I just I think really ultimately the option we go with is whether you think that the

2413
03:13:54,450 --> 03:14:03,590
leisure options that are offered are really going to drive enough traffic to offset the loss of

2414
03:14:03,590 --> 03:14:10,330
business travel. Personally, I actually don't think they will. Like our catchment area for leisure

2415
03:14:10,330 --> 03:14:18,250
travel is so narrow that you really, you kind of think of like what's our competitive edge

2416
03:14:18,250 --> 03:14:24,850
and to me that's the business travel and the frequency and convenience there. So those are my

2417
03:14:24,850 --> 03:14:28,810
thoughts. Any other comments, Councillors?

2418
03:14:31,190 --> 03:14:36,650
Thoughts? Is there no way to have both? No, we only get one

2419
03:14:36,650 --> 03:14:39,330
Yeah, sorry, I'm just making sure.

2420
03:14:39,630 --> 03:14:40,890
Yeah, no, no, it's fair.

2421
03:14:41,810 --> 03:14:44,230
I've been through this before, and that's the thing.

2422
03:14:44,410 --> 03:14:45,850
So we're making a recommendation of the FAA.

2423
03:14:45,950 --> 03:14:47,290
They're going to choose one provider.

2424
03:14:48,810 --> 03:14:49,510
So that's the other fun thing.

2425
03:14:49,530 --> 03:14:50,990
We can recommend whoever we want.

2426
03:14:51,290 --> 03:14:52,890
And they may go, well, we don't like it.

2427
03:14:54,370 --> 03:14:57,030
So the FAA is going to do what they want to do,

2428
03:14:57,470 --> 03:14:59,630
but they will certainly take our recommendation into consideration.

2429
03:15:01,970 --> 03:15:09,150
But we do have a choice we need to make tonight to make that recommendation to continue this process because it will continue without us.

2430
03:15:13,630 --> 03:15:15,310
Is there a motion to be made?

2431
03:15:15,670 --> 03:15:19,170
There is, I am happy to have a motion if you'd like.

2432
03:15:19,530 --> 03:15:20,730
Yeah, so it is 56.

2433
03:15:21,310 --> 03:15:27,230
I've got an expanded motion that includes some of the waivers that were discussed that Carl mentioned earlier.

2434
03:15:27,490 --> 03:15:27,750
Thank you.

2435
03:15:28,030 --> 03:15:30,530
Depending on which airline you might choose.

2436
03:15:30,850 --> 03:16:00,010
And so just as a note that there is some let's say variability to these motions, not just as Mr. Brooks pointed out for the waivers potentially depending on who is chosen, but also the terms, I think I know we have a choice between recommending a two-year term or a four-year term, I don't believe anyone was offering anything other than that, but in all cases, I would just my experiences it's better to do with like a four-year term because it just allows people to settle in.

2437
03:16:00,010 --> 03:16:07,010
Yeah, I guess one. Yeah. What was the percentages again for each airline from the most recent?

2438
03:16:08,890 --> 03:16:11,030
I just want to just make sure that we're clear.

2439
03:16:11,130 --> 03:16:15,670
Yeah, again out of the 621 results we had as a four clock today.

2440
03:16:16,410 --> 03:16:18,070
60 preferred boutique.

2441
03:16:19,190 --> 03:16:21,490
1093 preferred Cape Air.

2442
03:16:22,110 --> 03:16:23,750
357 preferred contour.

2443
03:16:23,750 --> 03:16:31,310
in the percentages are what? 50 percent. 10 percent for Booty. 31 percent for Cape Aire

2444
03:16:31,310 --> 03:16:34,890
58 percent for Contour. 58. 58.

2445
03:16:37,080 --> 03:16:39,880
Which gets back to I think the question of like, do

2446
03:16:39,880 --> 03:16:44,000
you think that 58 percent and this ties into the Council of Fort Burley's point really

2447
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:49,140
translates into purchase data? I know, I totally get it. And I'll just use myself and

2448
03:16:49,140 --> 03:16:54,860
say like, I would love to fly to like Dolis. Actually I grew up in Jersey and lived in Manhattan

2449
03:16:54,860 --> 03:16:58,940
So I will never fly to JFK, in the JFK so much.

2450
03:16:59,680 --> 03:17:01,800
But for exactly the reason that one of the people

2451
03:17:01,800 --> 03:17:04,420
spoke to about it is impossible to get to from Manhattan,

2452
03:17:04,680 --> 03:17:05,540
but that's aside.

2453
03:17:06,780 --> 03:17:09,280
But if you look at Boston or Dullis Hager,

2454
03:17:09,300 --> 03:17:14,660
it would be great to fly to Dullis and connect through.

2455
03:17:15,080 --> 03:17:17,900
The likelihood I do that maybe once a year, maybe,

2456
03:17:18,300 --> 03:17:20,520
if I did that with my family, it would be for travel, right?

2457
03:17:20,520 --> 03:17:21,500
It would be our vacation.

2458
03:17:21,700 --> 03:17:23,000
It's maybe four tickets.

2459
03:17:23,000 --> 03:17:26,780
the loss of planes may be 20, 30, 40.

2460
03:17:27,200 --> 03:17:27,840
Councillor Savis.

2461
03:17:28,240 --> 03:17:30,180
Except it's tougher to connect from Dallas

2462
03:17:30,180 --> 03:17:31,280
then it is from Reagan.

2463
03:17:34,640 --> 03:17:36,640
I mean, I've never flown in and out of diesel.

2464
03:17:37,180 --> 03:17:37,340
I don't think so.

2465
03:17:37,340 --> 03:17:39,780
But like the addition to La Guardia on JFK.

2466
03:17:39,820 --> 03:17:41,600
National salsa, but I don't think it's like either.

2467
03:17:41,940 --> 03:17:43,520
La Guardia on JFK.

2468
03:17:44,520 --> 03:17:45,300
I don't think it's like either.

2469
03:17:45,500 --> 03:17:45,700
No.

2470
03:17:46,960 --> 03:17:52,780
I concur with, you know, the insight about

2471
03:17:52,780 --> 03:17:58,580
Are these aspirational flyers or are these real flyers and I think that's very important?

2472
03:17:59,120 --> 03:18:02,740
I think what I'm worried a little bit about is like really getting around.

2473
03:18:03,060 --> 03:18:10,700
Why is why are our flight people taking flights gone gone down 15 percent?

2474
03:18:10,940 --> 03:18:16,840
And is it are we missing something that people really do need that for whatever reason

2475
03:18:16,840 --> 03:18:19,300
paper is his name to provide one

2476
03:18:27,080 --> 03:18:28,160
wants to take the lead on us.

2477
03:18:28,220 --> 03:18:28,920
Happy to make a motion.

2478
03:18:29,240 --> 03:18:29,380
Okay.

2479
03:18:29,640 --> 03:18:29,700
Sure.

2480
03:18:29,840 --> 03:18:30,120
I do it.

2481
03:18:30,400 --> 03:18:30,620
Yeah.

2482
03:18:30,760 --> 03:18:32,360
I had moved with 11 in the city council.

2483
03:18:32,760 --> 03:18:34,140
Here by recommend to the U.S.D.O.T.

2484
03:18:34,260 --> 03:18:37,940
that the paper is selected to provide essential air service with 11

2485
03:18:37,940 --> 03:18:41,740
an airport for a four year term beginning December 1st, 2026.

2486
03:18:42,380 --> 03:18:42,520
All right.

2487
03:18:42,660 --> 03:18:43,900
Motion by Councillor Appleton.

2488
03:18:44,380 --> 03:18:46,020
Seconded by Councillor Ford Burling.

2489
03:18:47,320 --> 03:18:47,440
Yeah.

2490
03:18:47,660 --> 03:18:47,920
Councillor.

2491
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:48,340
Councillor.

2492
03:18:48,340 --> 03:18:51,480
Can we do the further moves?

2493
03:18:51,480 --> 03:18:56,960
the way it's something that I'm having chosen, having selected.

2494
03:18:57,440 --> 03:18:58,140
Oh, I'm sorry.

2495
03:18:58,540 --> 03:18:58,600
Yes.

2496
03:18:58,840 --> 03:19:01,320
And via, I did not see the KBR would also require that.

2497
03:19:01,320 --> 03:19:01,840
Oh, yeah.

2498
03:19:02,140 --> 03:19:03,860
Be it further moves of the city council understands

2499
03:19:03,860 --> 03:19:06,020
that KBR may operate at service using utilizing

2500
03:19:06,020 --> 03:19:07,300
non-seed single-engine aircraft.

2501
03:19:07,480 --> 03:19:08,700
And here, by ways, it's right to receive

2502
03:19:08,700 --> 03:19:11,620
the Central Air Service with 15 C to order larger aircraft

2503
03:19:11,620 --> 03:19:13,640
and waves the right to use the multi-engine aircraft

2504
03:19:13,640 --> 03:19:14,780
as a selection criterion.

2505
03:19:15,500 --> 03:19:17,100
All right, do second, second and second

2506
03:19:17,100 --> 03:19:18,060
by Councillor Ford Burley.

2507
03:19:18,240 --> 03:19:18,980
Thank you, Mr. Brooks.

2508
03:19:19,620 --> 03:19:22,000
any comments before I move to vote.

2509
03:19:23,360 --> 03:19:23,760
Okay, none.

2510
03:19:23,920 --> 03:19:24,620
We'll move to the vote.

2511
03:19:24,740 --> 03:19:25,420
All those in favor.

2512
03:19:29,990 --> 03:19:30,210
All right.

2513
03:19:30,450 --> 03:19:31,110
Seven in favor.

2514
03:19:31,370 --> 03:19:32,170
All those opposed.

2515
03:19:32,890 --> 03:19:33,470
One opposed.

2516
03:19:33,570 --> 03:19:34,910
Any abstentions.

2517
03:19:35,610 --> 03:19:36,350
No abstentions.

2518
03:19:36,690 --> 03:19:37,890
This motion passes.

2519
03:19:38,830 --> 03:19:39,590
Seven in favor.

2520
03:19:39,850 --> 03:19:40,750
Councillor Cole posed.

2521
03:19:41,310 --> 03:19:42,170
Thank you.

2522
03:19:44,660 --> 03:19:45,160
All right.

2523
03:19:46,160 --> 03:19:47,600
On to more substantive.

2524
03:19:47,620 --> 03:19:49,060
Also substantive discussions.

2525
03:19:50,220 --> 03:19:50,980
We've got two.

2526
03:19:51,360 --> 03:19:52,520
So just I'm going to pair.

2527
03:19:52,520 --> 03:19:59,800
Both of these up for us just really quick. So we have two items and more items and new businesses. We have to address these are just to

2528
03:19:59,800 --> 03:20:02,840
Disset a public hearing for the related items

2529
03:20:03,680 --> 03:20:06,460
So I just mentioned that given that it is 929

2530
03:20:07,240 --> 03:20:15,840
So the whole purpose of these is to set up public hearing on these items for us to discuss and have public input at those digs. So cueing that out

2531
03:20:15,840 --> 03:20:20,340
CDBG application and adoption of anti-displacement and relocation assistance plan

2532
03:20:20,340 --> 03:20:24,420
This is a discussion to set the public hearing for July 15th, 2026.

2533
03:20:27,140 --> 03:20:29,520
Rebecca, can you give us a few of this all for us?

2534
03:20:29,820 --> 03:20:30,360
Sure.

2535
03:20:30,700 --> 03:20:31,780
Everyone's great.

2536
03:20:32,940 --> 03:20:33,500
Good evening.

2537
03:20:34,880 --> 03:20:37,660
Rebecca Owens, senior planner for the city of Lebanon.

2538
03:20:40,980 --> 03:20:45,480
Tonight, the city is considering submission of a New Hampshire community development

2539
03:20:45,480 --> 03:20:50,720
Finance Authority Community Development Block Grant Public Facilities Application.

2540
03:20:50,720 --> 03:20:53,600
I know it's a mouthful, so I'm going to call it CDBG.

2541
03:20:55,100 --> 03:20:58,520
And the application is for up to $750,000.

2542
03:20:59,160 --> 03:21:06,740
It's for of the Boys and Girls clubs upper valley child care facility to be located in West Lebanon, New Hampshire.

2543
03:21:08,220 --> 03:21:14,980
CDBG Public Facilities grants are federal HUD funds, and they are administered by the New Hampshire CDFA,

2544
03:21:14,980 --> 03:21:22,860
And they're intended to support projects that principally benefit low and medium or moderate income persons.

2545
03:21:23,620 --> 03:21:28,560
And child care facilities are particularly recognized as an eligible and high priority activity.

2546
03:21:30,740 --> 03:21:38,160
The specific location for the proposed facility is primarily 20 Seminary Hill Road,

2547
03:21:38,160 --> 03:21:43,160
with a portion of the site improvements on six, six Aldridge app.

2548
03:21:44,700 --> 03:21:47,980
And in case there are questions as I move forward,

2549
03:21:48,240 --> 03:21:52,860
the seat President and CEO of the Boys and Girls clubs is also here tonight.

2550
03:21:54,500 --> 03:21:57,140
And tonight's ask, as the mayor mentioned,

2551
03:21:57,780 --> 03:22:02,120
is only to set the public hearing date for July 15th

2552
03:22:02,120 --> 03:22:03,680
for two separate motions.

2553
03:22:04,600 --> 03:22:11,940
If awarded the grant, the city would be the grantee, and would sub-grant funds to the Boys and Girls

2554
03:22:11,940 --> 03:22:18,540
clubs through a formal sub-recipient agreement that is separate from any proposed license

2555
03:22:18,540 --> 03:22:25,340
early agreements. The city would not own or operate the facility. There's additional information

2556
03:22:25,340 --> 03:22:32,400
in your packet tonight. I'm happy to go through more background if you'd like. If we do obtain

2557
03:22:32,400 --> 03:22:40,840
the grant, the city is eligible for up to $4,000 in grant writing expenses as well as up to

2558
03:22:40,840 --> 03:22:45,700
$30,000 in grant administration costs if we choose to be the project administrator.

2559
03:22:48,860 --> 03:22:54,080
There's no expected fiscal impact beyond that with the administrative tracking reporting

2560
03:22:54,080 --> 03:22:57,040
and reimbursement requests.

2561
03:22:59,000 --> 03:23:04,920
The required benefit period for a CBG grant is 20 years, so there would be a performance

2562
03:23:04,920 --> 03:23:12,620
lien on the property, should anything change payment back would be required and that would

2563
03:23:12,620 --> 03:23:14,480
be tied to the subrecipient agreement.

2564
03:23:19,850 --> 03:23:23,260
I think if there are questions, I'm open to that at this point.

2565
03:23:24,510 --> 03:23:31,410
Council, any kind of clarifying questions, again, just noting that we're going to take this

2566
03:23:31,410 --> 03:23:35,390
back up on Wednesday, July 15th, beginning at 6 p.m. in Council chambers.

2567
03:23:37,250 --> 03:23:38,610
I guess I just have one quick question.

2568
03:23:38,770 --> 03:23:41,270
Is there any reason why we would not be the project manager?

2569
03:23:42,970 --> 03:23:47,150
Like, if I were too busy and I'm ending that's a possibility.

2570
03:23:47,770 --> 03:23:52,930
If I were to be the administrator, but given the staggering of projects,

2571
03:23:54,290 --> 03:23:58,310
I wish to highlight this point to be the administrator of a grant.

2572
03:23:59,030 --> 03:24:04,230
Well, I am told, and I haven't done a CDV grant, a CDV grant administration at this point.

2573
03:24:04,250 --> 03:24:07,250
It could be up to 25% of my time.

2574
03:24:07,370 --> 03:24:09,170
25% of Europe.

2575
03:24:09,310 --> 03:24:15,650
During the most active period, but at the same time, through the subrecipient agreement, it also

2576
03:24:15,650 --> 03:24:22,290
depends on the frequency and quantity of reimbursement requests, there can be ways to streamline

2577
03:24:22,290 --> 03:24:26,450
that. So that's about as much as I can tell you right now.

2578
03:24:26,730 --> 03:24:32,730
And if who would be this, might also be the administrator if we weren't?

2579
03:24:32,850 --> 03:24:37,170
I can't answer that. My short answer to Councillor would be we would be

2580
03:24:37,170 --> 03:24:43,110
administrating. Yeah, I mean, given that this is my area as a

2581
03:24:43,110 --> 03:24:49,270
post-war finance director, I would say we would not want to put that out there

2582
03:24:49,270 --> 03:24:53,370
because even as a grant recipient and a pastor

2583
03:24:53,370 --> 03:24:56,130
entity on a sub-awardy, we have obligations

2584
03:24:56,130 --> 03:24:59,250
to ensure the sub-awardy is performing all work

2585
03:24:59,250 --> 03:25:00,810
in accordance with federal regulations,

2586
03:25:01,230 --> 03:25:02,650
uniform guidance, and all that.

2587
03:25:03,070 --> 03:25:06,870
So I don't see a scenario where the city,

2588
03:25:06,930 --> 03:25:09,950
and however that may need to play out,

2589
03:25:10,350 --> 03:25:11,550
would not be the administrator.

2590
03:25:12,810 --> 03:25:17,210
It's so like, I would be hard to oppose to it.

2591
03:25:17,210 --> 03:25:21,650
like I would rather hire people before we went out and tried to send someone else to do it

2592
03:25:21,650 --> 03:25:25,230
just again because of the compliance and like liability issues with that.

2593
03:25:25,650 --> 03:25:31,870
But I would, you know, my experience, I would highly suggest a recommend that we look at,

2594
03:25:31,870 --> 03:25:39,190
like, monthly invoicing and obviously monthly, you know, invoicing to our prime sponsor through

2595
03:25:39,190 --> 03:25:47,130
the CDVG and just minimizing the overall amount of, you know, administrative burden.

2596
03:25:47,130 --> 03:25:55,390
that acting as a passer-on ID would require, like I think there's ways to make sure that we can

2597
03:25:55,390 --> 03:26:00,990
streamline that process, but then being realistic. This is something we would be audited about.

2598
03:26:01,430 --> 03:26:05,650
I mean, just it's standard course. Since we're already audited for federal awards anyway,

2599
03:26:05,850 --> 03:26:11,930
it would just be looped into the overall audit potentially broader controls. It would have,

2600
03:26:11,930 --> 03:26:18,170
It has to meet all kinds of criteria, but it would just there would be a certain amount

2601
03:26:18,170 --> 03:26:26,250
of additional kind of outside of Rebecca's time burden on, like finance and administration.

2602
03:26:30,190 --> 03:26:31,230
A bit one more question.

2603
03:26:32,930 --> 03:26:38,450
Grants are we, can I ask the question about number two, please, is that the Obsis appropriate

2604
03:26:38,450 --> 03:26:39,350
time?

2605
03:26:39,790 --> 03:26:40,410
Are we splitting?

2606
03:26:40,790 --> 03:26:40,990
Sorry.

2607
03:26:41,070 --> 03:26:41,830
Let me ask David this.

2608
03:26:41,830 --> 03:26:45,090
David, are we splitting these into two resolutions? Are we just doing this all as one?

2609
03:26:46,210 --> 03:26:49,750
I think to set the public hearing, you're doing it all as one motion.

2610
03:26:49,830 --> 03:26:51,630
Okay, unless there's no, there's two separate motions.

2611
03:26:51,630 --> 03:26:54,770
Oh, they are. It's just, they have to be two separate motions.

2612
03:26:54,910 --> 03:26:58,270
So that's next meeting, the public hearing could be.

2613
03:26:58,270 --> 03:27:06,150
Right. I think for consistency, we should do them separately. That's traditionally been my guidance for this.

2614
03:27:06,330 --> 03:27:09,370
I mean, sure. That's fine. I would hate to air on the side of it.

2615
03:27:09,370 --> 03:27:15,550
Yeah, I mean it's it's a single motion to send a set public hearings for the following number one

2616
03:27:15,930 --> 03:27:17,290
number two

2617
03:27:17,290 --> 03:27:20,450
I don't want so I I think that meets the

2618
03:27:21,890 --> 03:27:27,690
I will defer to because I know that the CDBG grants and the whole process is very

2619
03:27:28,310 --> 03:27:35,450
Regulented. Yeah, it's got to be like words in the certain let's likely. Yeah, let's air on the side of caution and just like this into two

2620
03:27:37,030 --> 03:27:44,150
understanding their pretty much one requires the other. So I mean, if you want to ask a question, I'd say go ahead, but let's split this into two motions.

2621
03:27:44,690 --> 03:27:53,410
Simple question. Hopefully it's a simple answer. Can you please explain to me those city 11 and residential anti displacement relocation assistance plan?

2622
03:27:54,410 --> 03:27:55,330
Like, what is that?

2623
03:27:55,370 --> 03:27:59,050
Rebecca may be able to do that, but primarily is my understanding correct me if I'm wrong.

2624
03:27:59,050 --> 03:28:02,830
is if this project displaces peoples from their homes,

2625
03:28:03,210 --> 03:28:06,150
it's the obligation I believe for the entity to

2626
03:28:06,150 --> 03:28:09,970
find alternative housing of equal or greater value,

2627
03:28:10,170 --> 03:28:12,630
so they're not just booted out onto the street because of the program.

2628
03:28:13,030 --> 03:28:16,550
So I don't think it impacts this because it's a built field.

2629
03:28:16,810 --> 03:28:18,070
That's an interesting question.

2630
03:28:18,390 --> 03:28:23,010
But we're not talking about displacing employees from other,

2631
03:28:23,570 --> 03:28:26,990
it's like, no, no, it's basically basically like for that.

2632
03:28:26,990 --> 03:28:33,290
and then in domain take over a house and kick people like you know like think about today right like if we if you

2633
03:28:33,290 --> 03:28:38,330
like kick someone out and like oh well we'll give you the assessed value right you'd go in and be like okay good luck

2634
03:28:38,330 --> 03:28:43,630
mind I just wasn't sure how yeah broad of like just like that man so yeah as

2635
03:28:44,290 --> 03:28:49,430
yeah it's residential and it's included with every CDPG application

2636
03:28:50,950 --> 03:28:55,110
we yeah we've done a few of these and we have not kicked anyone out of their homes

2637
03:29:00,690 --> 03:29:03,030
I don't know if they're appropriate.

2638
03:29:04,470 --> 03:29:08,770
I'd ask a native the last time we were gathered together on this topic.

2639
03:29:10,870 --> 03:29:18,870
How could we be assured, or what assurance is there, as to the ongoing use of the SAU building?

2640
03:29:19,470 --> 03:29:23,250
And how and whether that might be affected by another building,

2641
03:29:23,250 --> 03:29:27,690
with another set of services specifically delivered to children on the same

2642
03:29:27,690 --> 03:29:29,530
lot or in close proximity.

2643
03:29:31,670 --> 03:29:34,590
That didn't get discussed last week and I don't know

2644
03:29:34,590 --> 03:29:38,350
whether this is the forum within which that can be entertained or if that's

2645
03:29:38,350 --> 03:29:42,030
something that could just be well legal done the next time we get together.

2646
03:29:42,370 --> 03:29:45,370
It would be it would be discussed in the public hearing. Perfect.

2647
03:29:46,770 --> 03:29:49,570
And then my other question has to do with to

2648
03:29:49,570 --> 03:29:57,310
Lebanon is, is, in effect, sponsoring of this important service in Lebanon, and I'm

2649
03:29:57,310 --> 03:29:59,970
just curious what guardrails of anything they're made.

2650
03:30:06,720 --> 03:30:11,180
So I think this is outside the scope of what we're talking about right now.

2651
03:30:11,540 --> 03:30:17,500
I think it's probably something that can be addressed tomorrow when we talk about some of the least language.

2652
03:30:18,880 --> 03:30:29,320
And I, one of the challenges associated with this is excluding a portion of the population from having acts equal access to a federally funded program,

2653
03:30:29,320 --> 03:30:34,160
which would run us a follow-up of all sorts of issues there, which we can't do.

2654
03:30:34,400 --> 03:30:35,580
That's my understanding of it.

2655
03:30:36,480 --> 03:30:42,340
But we can probably address some of the other issues, as far as accessibility,

2656
03:30:44,560 --> 03:30:49,520
to trying to ensure that accessibility to our Lebanon residents is a priority.

2657
03:30:50,040 --> 03:30:52,960
I think we can be able to discuss that with Chris E.M.

2658
03:30:52,960 --> 03:30:56,760
from the Boys and Girls Club tomorrow as well, hopefully get all your questions answered.

2659
03:30:56,760 --> 03:30:57,160
Good.

2660
03:31:01,450 --> 03:31:05,650
You want to make much? I can make a couple of motions one at a time. Yeah, you got to do it.

2661
03:31:06,270 --> 03:31:11,930
I'll start by moving the 11 in city council here by schedules one public hearing for Wednesday, July 15,

2662
03:31:12,590 --> 03:31:19,430
2026 beginning at six o'clock PM council chambers city hall and remote via the city's virtual platform for the following.

2663
03:31:20,050 --> 03:31:27,090
A public hearing for the purpose of receiving public input and taking action on a proposed CDBG grant application for up to $750,000

2664
03:31:27,090 --> 03:31:37,210
$1,000 in CDBG public facilities funds to be subgranted to boys and girls clubs of central in northern New Hampshire and to authorize the city manager to sign submit and execute any documents

2665
03:31:37,210 --> 03:31:43,330
Which may be necessary to effectuate the CDBG application and contract the CDBG

2666
03:31:44,730 --> 03:31:46,590
BG CC and

2667
03:31:46,590 --> 03:31:47,410
NH

2668
03:31:47,410 --> 03:31:51,650
Yes, there they go. You said you were gonna say it

2669
03:31:51,650 --> 03:31:56,910
All right, so we have the motion by the system married. We have a second second by counselor Appleton all those in favor

2670
03:31:58,070 --> 03:31:59,110
It's unanimous.

2671
03:31:59,110 --> 03:32:01,010
We'll talk about this again on the 15th.

2672
03:32:01,010 --> 03:32:02,130
I'll make the other one.

2673
03:32:02,430 --> 03:32:02,650
Please do.

2674
03:32:02,810 --> 03:32:06,650
To make move to the 11th city council here by schedule is a public hearing for Wednesday

2675
03:32:06,650 --> 03:32:11,750
July 15th, 2026 beginning at 6 o'clock in council chamber city hall and remotely

2676
03:32:11,750 --> 03:32:13,870
the city's virtual platform for the following.

2677
03:32:14,350 --> 03:32:18,070
A public hearing for the purpose of receiving public input and taking action to adopt the city

2678
03:32:18,070 --> 03:32:23,010
of 11 in residential anti-displacement and relocation assistance plan for the boys and girls

2679
03:32:23,010 --> 03:32:25,350
clubs of central and northern New Hampshire.

2680
03:32:25,350 --> 03:32:27,890
Thank you, Sister Mary, do I have a second?

2681
03:32:27,950 --> 03:32:30,830
Second, by Councillor Opton, all those in favor?

2682
03:32:31,950 --> 03:32:33,430
Thank you, Annemes, thank you all.

2683
03:32:33,710 --> 03:32:36,450
We will now move on to our last time of new business.

2684
03:32:36,930 --> 03:32:38,410
Also, to discuss instead of public hearing.

2685
03:32:38,950 --> 03:32:39,650
Thank you for your time.

2686
03:32:39,830 --> 03:32:44,090
Yeah, thanks Rebecca, for August 19th, 2026

2687
03:32:44,090 --> 03:32:46,210
to reclassify an existing class six highway,

2688
03:32:46,310 --> 03:32:49,510
which is a portion of old King's highway as a class five highway.

2689
03:32:49,550 --> 03:32:52,190
We're so into the attached RSI.

2690
03:32:52,190 --> 03:32:52,610
need.

2691
03:32:54,210 --> 03:32:54,590
Sorry.

2692
03:32:55,010 --> 03:32:55,850
You used to calling on me.

2693
03:32:56,370 --> 03:32:57,890
Please forgive me.

2694
03:32:58,790 --> 03:32:59,170
Thank you.

2695
03:32:59,550 --> 03:33:01,750
Tim Quarwin, Deputy Planning and Development Director.

2696
03:33:03,110 --> 03:33:07,830
Robert and Carolyn Townsend are the owners of a 70-acre parcel at 125-store-till

2697
03:33:07,830 --> 03:33:10,910
road in March of the Sierra the Planning Board.

2698
03:33:11,430 --> 03:33:17,830
Granted approval to subdivide the Townsend Lot into two lots for the zoning district

2699
03:33:17,830 --> 03:33:20,690
in which the Townsend's properties located,

2700
03:33:20,830 --> 03:33:23,870
the zoning ordinance requires minimum frontage

2701
03:33:23,870 --> 03:33:28,390
for each lot of 200 feet on a classified road or better.

2702
03:33:29,450 --> 03:33:31,450
Currently, however, lot too, as it appears

2703
03:33:32,510 --> 03:33:33,890
on the subdivision plot, on the subdivision plot

2704
03:33:33,890 --> 03:33:36,070
of copy, which was included with your agenda materials.

2705
03:33:37,150 --> 03:33:41,670
Lot too only has 34 feet of frontage on stores

2706
03:33:41,670 --> 03:33:50,470
road, which is a class 5 road, the remainder of lot-toes front-age is on Old King's Highway,

2707
03:33:50,790 --> 03:33:56,430
which is a Class 6 road. It has about, has over a thousand feet of front-age on Old King's Highway.

2708
03:33:58,570 --> 03:34:03,670
So, because lot-toes does not meet the minimum required front-age for the zoning ordinance,

2709
03:34:03,870 --> 03:34:11,250
the planning board included a condition that required the town sense to request and for the Council to approve,

2710
03:34:11,250 --> 03:34:16,130
if approved, a reclassification of a sufficient portion of

2711
03:34:16,130 --> 03:34:20,670
old King's highway to give the town tens, the minimum records

2712
03:34:20,670 --> 03:34:25,870
at Frontage on a Class 5 road to reclassify a portion of 166 foot

2713
03:34:25,870 --> 03:34:29,750
portion of old King's highway from Class 6 to Class 5.

2714
03:34:29,930 --> 03:34:32,650
So that's the, that's the request to the council.

2715
03:34:34,030 --> 03:34:37,790
Following conditional subdivision approval, staff met with the

2716
03:34:37,790 --> 03:34:41,210
on-site to evaluate existing conditions.

2717
03:34:41,890 --> 03:34:43,870
And it was determined based on that site.

2718
03:34:44,170 --> 03:34:46,850
Visit that no additional physical improvements

2719
03:34:46,850 --> 03:34:49,750
or changes would be needed to that segment

2720
03:34:49,750 --> 03:34:53,250
of old King's highway proposed to be reclassified,

2721
03:34:53,250 --> 03:34:56,610
at least in connection with the proposed reclassification.

2722
03:34:57,210 --> 03:34:59,790
However, DPW did request that the Townsend's

2723
03:35:01,310 --> 03:35:04,470
consider granting DPW or the city an easement

2724
03:35:04,470 --> 03:35:05,840
to turn around.

2725
03:35:05,840 --> 03:35:12,700
And the turnaround isn't for city vehicles that proposed easement area is 50 feet by 50 feet

2726
03:35:12,700 --> 03:35:18,080
and it's depicted on the reclassification plot, copy of which is included with your

2727
03:35:18,080 --> 03:35:18,960
agenda pack and materials.

2728
03:35:19,700 --> 03:35:24,000
So the towns and the have agreed to grant the city that turnaround easement.

2729
03:35:26,300 --> 03:35:32,940
The state statute authorizes city council to reclassify a classic road to a class five road

2730
03:35:32,940 --> 03:35:34,500
by simple majority vote.

2731
03:35:34,860 --> 03:35:37,200
So a public hearing isn't technically legally required.

2732
03:35:38,020 --> 03:35:40,920
However, staff would recommend that the council

2733
03:35:40,920 --> 03:35:43,820
go ahead and schedule a public hearing on this matter.

2734
03:35:44,080 --> 03:35:47,460
Should you choose move forward and also to provide notified,

2735
03:35:48,000 --> 03:35:50,640
provide notice of the public hearing by certified mail

2736
03:35:50,640 --> 03:35:53,980
to the abutters, just as a matter of good policy,

2737
03:35:54,060 --> 03:35:57,160
public outreach, that's practices, that's sort of thing.

2738
03:35:59,100 --> 03:36:00,780
So pursuant to the towns ends,

2739
03:36:00,780 --> 03:36:12,200
Request to reclassify 166-foot portion of the old King's right away, which is currently classified as class six to class five.

2740
03:36:12,320 --> 03:36:21,600
The request is that the City Council set a public hearing on this matter for your meeting on August 15, believe 2026.

2741
03:36:22,780 --> 03:36:38,700
And then concurrently with the vote to reclassify staff would also ask that the council or would also recommend that the council consider changing the name of the segment proposed proposed to be reclassified for class six to class five.

2742
03:36:39,060 --> 03:36:48,160
Change the name of that segment from Old King's Highway to Stores Hill Road to match the adjoining class five store still road right away.

2743
03:36:48,160 --> 03:36:55,160
And then finally, to authorize the city manager to accept the turnaround easement on behalf of the city,

2744
03:36:55,880 --> 03:37:00,640
and it's our intent to provide you with a copy of that easement with the August 15th

2745
03:37:00,640 --> 03:37:02,000
of Jenna Packameterals.

2746
03:37:02,900 --> 03:37:05,040
And with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions I have.

2747
03:37:05,360 --> 03:37:05,580
Thanks, Tim.

2748
03:37:05,780 --> 03:37:05,880
Yeah.

2749
03:37:05,880 --> 03:37:06,900
Councillor Key.

2750
03:37:07,620 --> 03:37:14,420
What is the reason why somebody would need 200 feet for that lot?

2751
03:37:14,580 --> 03:37:16,460
You know, the class five.

2752
03:37:16,460 --> 03:37:21,080
What is the reason why you need to change that? Is it a safety thing?

2753
03:37:22,080 --> 03:37:31,980
So, yeah, typically a classifier road is going to be, well, the classifier road is required to be maintained by immunosuppality,

2754
03:37:32,720 --> 03:37:37,960
whereas a class six road is not required to be maintained. And so the reason why a lot,

2755
03:37:38,280 --> 03:37:43,700
the general reason why there's a minimum classifier under requirement on any particular lot

2756
03:37:45,100 --> 03:37:49,960
is to provide safe access for emergency vehicles, and otherwise.

2757
03:37:51,220 --> 03:37:57,000
And so, that's the purpose of requiring a minimum, a certain minimum amount of

2758
03:37:57,000 --> 03:37:58,540
front-age on a classified road.

2759
03:37:59,700 --> 03:38:04,660
The width of that minimum front-age, that's a matter of policy.

2760
03:38:05,120 --> 03:38:07,040
And so, there are other factors that can come into play.

2761
03:38:07,040 --> 03:38:15,180
and so that the minimum 200 foot front of requirement is based again on a couple of factors,

2762
03:38:15,860 --> 03:38:23,740
it part of which is access to or service by public water and sewer and as well as general

2763
03:38:23,740 --> 03:38:31,240
aesthetics so that there could be a variety of policy reasons that would dictate what the exact

2764
03:38:31,240 --> 03:38:34,720
frontages for any particular law in any particular zone.

2765
03:38:36,080 --> 03:38:43,900
But again, the general reason is to ensure that there's safe access to a lot for emergency vehicles and such.

2766
03:38:44,940 --> 03:38:48,140
And just noting, I mean, part of this is in terms of the maintenance.

2767
03:38:48,540 --> 03:38:53,600
So some of this is already being maintained anyway, even as a class six, because the police communications tower is up there.

2768
03:38:55,160 --> 03:38:58,980
So it's still somewhat being taken care of by the city as I remember,

2769
03:38:58,980 --> 03:39:02,200
because the police need access to their communications

2770
03:39:02,200 --> 03:39:03,760
tower for maintenance, etc.

2771
03:39:06,160 --> 03:39:06,900
It's kind of cool.

2772
03:39:07,240 --> 03:39:09,540
Where does the plows turn around currently

2773
03:39:09,540 --> 03:39:12,680
or where have they been turning around for all these years?

2774
03:39:15,900 --> 03:39:18,380
We can get, we can get some clarification on that

2775
03:39:18,380 --> 03:39:21,600
for the public hearing, but it's my understanding

2776
03:39:21,600 --> 03:39:26,240
that at one point the area that's proposed to be formalized

2777
03:39:26,240 --> 03:39:32,260
with a turnaround easement was actually being used by city vehicles as a turnaround area.

2778
03:39:33,480 --> 03:39:40,100
I think it's a little unclear. It sounds like that that's stopped at some point relatively

2779
03:39:40,100 --> 03:39:46,940
recently, but I can get some clarification on that. Yeah, we'll get Jayda way and on that for

2780
03:39:51,640 --> 03:39:54,620
Councils questions, comments, set up public hearing.

2781
03:39:55,540 --> 03:39:56,040
Happy to make a move.

2782
03:39:56,300 --> 03:39:56,480
Yeah, please.

2783
03:39:58,240 --> 03:39:58,680
Move.

2784
03:39:58,920 --> 03:39:59,700
That's 11 in City Council.

2785
03:39:59,760 --> 03:40:02,700
Hereby schedules the public hearing for Wednesday, August 19th, 2026.

2786
03:40:02,800 --> 03:40:04,780
Beginning at 7 p.m. in Council Chamber of City Hall.

2787
03:40:04,920 --> 03:40:09,680
And remote via the City's virtual platform for the purpose of receding public input and taking action to reclassify portion.

2788
03:40:10,100 --> 03:40:13,880
Of the old Kins Highway, right away from a class 6 road to a class 5 road,

2789
03:40:13,880 --> 03:40:20,980
and you have to RSA, 231-22-A, as shown on a plat-titled plan of petitioned road reclassification

2790
03:40:20,980 --> 03:40:26,660
old Kings Highway at end of Stores Hill Road, prepared by Cardigan Mountain Land Service LLC,

2791
03:40:26,660 --> 03:40:32,620
dated March 31st, 2026 and revised May 2026 as presented in the July 1st, 2026 City Council

2792
03:40:32,620 --> 03:40:37,520
agenda packet. Thank you, Councillor Forberley. Do I have a second? Seconded by Councillor

2793
03:40:37,520 --> 03:40:43,580
Stavis, all those in favor. It's unanimous among the eight of us, President. Thank you. Thank

2794
03:40:43,580 --> 03:40:48,500
Just a quick note for everyone we are starting in two weeks on the 15th at 6 o'clock.

2795
03:40:48,740 --> 03:40:51,960
We're going to have warden committee's reports and then we're going to roll right into the

2796
03:40:51,960 --> 03:40:55,480
main agenda which is going to be quite busy as well.

2797
03:40:56,400 --> 03:40:57,680
And then we will be off.

2798
03:40:58,180 --> 03:41:00,900
We will not have our August 1st meeting in August.

2799
03:41:01,100 --> 03:41:06,040
We will not reconvene until August 19th to discuss the last six to class five road.

2800
03:41:06,660 --> 03:41:08,640
So we'll have a nice bit of a break there.

2801
03:41:10,180 --> 03:41:10,900
Good night.

2802
03:41:11,020 --> 03:41:12,640
Do I have a motion to adjourn?

2803
03:41:13,180 --> 03:41:16,820
I'm going to say move by Councillor Ford Burley and seconded by Councillor Fonts, all those

2804
03:41:16,820 --> 03:41:17,560
in favor.

2805
03:41:18,060 --> 03:41:18,580
It's unanimous.

2806
03:41:18,760 --> 03:41:19,040
Go home.

2807
03:41:19,120 --> 03:41:20,160
Have a safe and happy fourth.

2808
03:41:21,140 --> 03:41:21,520
And cool.

2809
03:41:21,860 --> 03:41:22,000
Yeah.