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All right. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the town that you're going to be on. And of course, the commission

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regularly agenda of Tuesday, August 5th. Please rise, joining the federal issues.

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Oh,

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I believe it's the United States that we have. The Republic, which extends ordination of the

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Chairman DeGrobe.

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Mr. Arvibhi.

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President.

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Mr. Arvibhi.

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President.

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Mr. Arvibhi.

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President Meirali.

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Mr. Grahame.

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And, Mr. Thompson is at the Shines House.

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At that point, Mr. Graham is a very good fellow and he's fine.

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All right.

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Do we have any additional changes? Everybody finds necessary for this agenda tonight?

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All right, very none. We want to see some positions to everybody.

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We're going to speak to your commission about some non-agenda items.

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To self, please come to the podium, say, to the event.

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Yes.

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Okay. Nobody?

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All

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right. Well, here we do improve our public hearing.

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We've never had our last meetings around the whole business here.

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which is to a special incident of an operation IWC 25-5 for 1929, 39 military highway.

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Mr. Chairman. Yes, ma'am.

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I would like to make a comment or statement. Please do.

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I just want to transform the commission, the chairman, and also the planner that I have most recently purchased at home over on five make the corners road over in Kelsberry.

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whether or not there is objects for bias or unbiased, I think that I have historically

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presented as unbiased and neutral in my position, in my voting, and I just wanted

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to put that out there for whatever reason, so do you necessary?

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Thank you.

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All right, so, I'm sorry, it starts off.

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Actually, I'm not going to start off with the record of this verdict, Lane News Director.

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I just wanted to say for the record that Kyle Halbert of CLA Engineers is here on Zoom

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to answer any questions that you have.

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Is there anything that was put on the record C for the public hearing flow?

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So you can't ask about anything new, but you could certainly ask him questions as staff, as our staff, about anything from the record. So he is here this evening to answer any questions that you may have.

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Hannah has prepared a staff report and she can go through that with you and then you want to start your discussion prior to that.

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So I'll use this for the report first, if you don't mind.

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Yeah.

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The problem.

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And you know, no, no, no, boom.

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There you go.

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Can you know, zoning and what one's official.

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So in my, in my staff review of all the exhibits, the application for the 278 unit building housing development for the two six story buildings,

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the regulated activities, including the Tumper temporary upland review area disturbance during

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the construction and drainage outflows from the Entity River Lake areas. So as we know,

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in 2015, 2025, at least Smith's staff report detailed regarding the application, which included

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my comments and the Landage Director's comments regarding comments and concerns submitted by

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have a tons of consulting engineer, Mark Langport,

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the Dying Mar for Waste Water,

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and the proposed application for Waste Water

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discharges from sub-service sewage treatment

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and disposal systems for the proposed project.

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So, it is part of the application

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that did not receive approval from DEV

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and as a result, that the clean tech

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on the half of the applicant states,

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it should revise its application

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to re-submit the full application package to DEV.

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We had additional comments and concerns

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from our town consulting engineers.

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soil scientists, sorry, consult the engineer and soil scientists,

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Paul Hubbert, me and Bob Russo, certified soil scientists of CLA.

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Regarding the soil mortar management in which they stated, in our opinion,

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additional site soil evaluation should be performed to document the existing soil

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conditions and to substantiate the soil mortar management system design.

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So without the additional information CLA couldn't confirm whether or not the

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stormwater management features would have an adverse impact on our inland wetlands and water

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forces.

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It's going to be open soon, due to because they could determine if the basins were perfectly

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assessed for stormwater management.

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The applicants engineer Jeff Ford, Keable, engineering at the public hearing on 715, 2025 stated

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in part the reasons for not conducting the testing requested by seal engineers were

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that the rock face and or bedrock would have to be blasted and removed during excavation

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then fill the soil from other areas of the site with known permeability.

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In this one instance, we thought it was not necessary to form those test pits in areas

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where rock is present as it would be going and in doing unnecessary excavation and blasting

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to have rock move through another location on the site then place spill in more free draining,

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sorry, that is more free draining.

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doing additional test bits would not get us additional information other than that of brown

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water. So that was verbatim. Staff recommendation is deny application number 25-5 site without

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prejudice for the following reasons and I will read them into the record. Reason one, the

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application is incomplete and that the applicant did not comply with multiple requests of the

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town's consulting engineer, CLA, engineers, CLA to provide test bits and permeability information

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and which soil evaluations can be done

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by a qualified professional at any time of the year

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and help document that the given site can support

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the store water management design of the project.

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CLA cannot determine if the soil's onsite can fully support

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the proposed store water management system design

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and that without this information,

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CLA cannot confirm that the store water management features

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are appropriately sized in a forest of the 2024

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and it gets store water quality manual

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and it cannot be determined if the project

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of the Department of Impact on the on-site regulated

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uplands, inland wetlands, and or water-course areas.

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C-C-L-A engineers exhibits number 27, number 37,

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number 46, and number 50 for the record.

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Reason number two.

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For someone to Connecticut General Statutes 22A-19,

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the Galesbury Fire District,

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A-K-A Galesbury Fire District,

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Emily and Barry individually have filed

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verified notices of intervention exhibits

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it's number 17 and 26 respectively.

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Here and after will be notices.

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Stating the proposed administrative proceedings

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involves conduct which has or which is reasonably

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likely to have the effect of unreasonably

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gloating, impairing or destroying the public trust

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and air, water and other natural resources of the state.

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Within the jurisdiction of the agency

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and the following ways in staff's opinion, number one.

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Notices are from sections 4A, B, C, M, and Q

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which state. Hey, the applicant's application does not meet the standards of approval.

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B, the applicant has failed to provide evidence to demonstrate that the application will not

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result in long-term impacts on what leads to four water courses. C, the applicant has failed to

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provide evidence to demonstrate that the application will not result in irreversible and irreversible

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loss of water versus. No soil testing has been conducted in Mason 1D to determine if the soils

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are suitable for infiltration. The applicant has to be able to demonstrate that the required

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vertical separations in the 2024 manual, then get the 24-storm order volume annual,

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are met for seasonal high ground water and or bedrock. The design for Basin-1D is not in compliance.

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Q, such other and further aspects as may be determined from the applicant's storm order management plan.

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2. Notices from Section 6, which state? It is the responsibility of the applicant in this

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administrative proceeding to adequately develop by the introduction of substantial evidence

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of record evidence that will address the issues raised hearing with respect to potential impacts.

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And the applicant has the burden of establishing that the proposed action would not have significant

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impacts as alleged in that no alternatives exist that would reduce or eliminate the potential for such

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adverse impacts.

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what the impacts on the regulated

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upwind, inland, wetlands, and or water-course areas are.

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and prudent alternatives are required.

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this is very discussion.

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Thank you, Mark.

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Thank you, Anthony.

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There's also an online question that's there.

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You can ask questions with respect to his comments as well.

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Well, I'm Robert Graham. I just had a question about this test fit 1D, the engineer

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1D. The engineer, Mr. Board from Boulder Engineering stated that the test fit, you'd

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bedrock and therefore that last but so forth. So the question is, is this test bit just

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trying to determine what type of soil will sit on top of the bedrock or is it trying to determine

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whether you could have infiltration through bedrock? Does it take a lot of sense to

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Kyle, that question is for you. There you go. Hi everybody. Kyle Habbert from CLA

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engineers were located at 317 Main Street and Norwich for the record. Yeah, the test bits

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that would be needed, you know, for the infiltration basins that were proposed will be one to document

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if and where, you know, ledge would be encountered to determine where the seasonal high ground water

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table is, whether that's above ledge, if it's out there or anywhere in that soil profile,

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And also to help determine the nature of the soils, how permeable they are and what they can support, you know, for infiltration rates.

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So that would be the purpose of the of the test bits to confirm the actual field conditions that are out there.

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is there a limited amount of options for where those calculations can be placed on the site given that development?

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You know, that would be up for the for the applicants engineer to determine if there are, you know, limited areas on the site for them.

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but testing how the naval been to determine that.

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Yes, of what?

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Dan Pieler here.

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So just to make sure that I fully understand this.

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With regards to this site specifically and the established position that there is bedrock there that would have to be blasted away.

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and replaced with material with a known fill condition.

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would the primary objectives of having these test bits put here be given the fact that there would be a significant if not total replacement of the soils in the condition or in the location following the lasting.

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Well, one thing to be clear from our end and from our review, we did not see evidence

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presented in the documents that re-reviewed that there is no ledge there.

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I don't believe they submitted probes or test bit data or how they know that ledge was

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If they had done something on their own and didn't submit that, as part of the application

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I don't know for sure if it is known legend and that documentation is out there somewhere that we did not see, you know, the limits of the ledge and groundwater elevations or potential groundwater elevations or provisions for those groundwater elevations if they're going to intercept it, you know, with their rock excavation and providing, you know, means to mitigate that and the design would be important.

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Chairman.

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Ms. Burtick.

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I'm your instructor.

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May I address Mr. Harvard?

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File which the kindly one of the things you wrote in your report is that you cannot determine that the base and is appropriately sized.

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And can you explain.

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and why that is with regards to the testing.

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Could you be trying to give us the reader side just

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or the, you know, the dumbed down version of it

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for, for, for, for labels?

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Sure, and the sizing, part of the sizing calculations

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takes into account an infiltration rate

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or a permeability of the soil.

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They use a rate that they determine from, you know,

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So, you know, elsewhere on the site. But, you know, soils change are variable across the site. So, documenting what the permeability rates in the primarily the infiltration basins 1 E and 1 D, the two large ones that are on the west side of the site.

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based on a separation to the ground water table.

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But we don't believe there was enough evidence

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to establish what that ground water table elevation is,

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particularly in basin 1E.

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That ground water elevation they established from the boring,

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which only has that water elevation at that point in time

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when the boring is done.

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And it's not necessarily the seasonal high ground water table.

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So we couldn't confirm that one that there was the adequate separation to the ground water table, and then also that it was sized the volume of the base and the size appropriately for the strong water quality manual.

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I have a follow-up question to that.

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So the outlets for the stormwater management system are right at the 100-foot up-and-review

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areas.

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Would knowing that information affect your comments with respect to how much runoff is going

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into that regulated area?

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It would, confirming that the basins were sized appropriately for the stormwater quality manual.

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We would be able to confirm that the peak flow rates

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wouldn't impact or volumes wouldn't impact the wetlands.

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And then we could also confirm that the volume of the basins

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would treat the suspended solids per the water quality manual.

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And we could say that it would meet the storm water quality manual guidelines.

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Thank you.

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What's my parole?

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So, that recommendation, reason one, that the petition is

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complete because that gets to not comply with multiple

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personal doubts of someone in the community.

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And over here, I have a letter submitted by you,

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the July 10th that says, we concur with

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all the statements that comments from the previous CLA that had dated, May 29th, have been addressed

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with the exception of test fit items and some other items, number 4 or 5 or so.

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One of them says information was submitted. They have another document that says

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that information was submitted. Can you play it yourself?

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Regarding the test fit information?

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Yes. They did. They did address, we had a series of, I believe, 29 or 30 comments in a

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May let it be submitted. They had addressed all the comments with the exception of the test bit.

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We had requested additional test bits in the basins and that information had not been provided.

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So that was the outstanding comments and the outstanding item was addressing the test bits for

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the project.

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There would be information that would provide additional test bits.

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I'm sorry, I couldn't quite hear you.

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The information was speaking about what would have been, information that would have been

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derived from the additional test vids.

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Correct.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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That's fine.

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Thank you.

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What I have here is an applicant to say that they're going to have to go out to the current biggest

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test fit regardless in order to determine how this cash basin is going to be constructed.

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to prior to them, you know, finalizing the plan.

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That's one of the things they asked us to approve it

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with that contingency and that condition.

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My reflection on that statement is that you're asking us

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to make this application a condition that it meets our regulations.

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If I haven't planned it already meets the regulations,

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we can make a well-informed decision on whether to approve it or not. So I've missed this information.

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You know, it's defined in this coverage reports.

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Let me show you some of the include plans. And I think listen to Mr. Bourd at our

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2015, the hearing of 2015, you know, any kind of define that. I think this plan is incomplete. It

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doesn't define whether it's going to be a catchphrase in, you know, the incision of digging out

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work, it has to be blasted out and then back filled in to reach the fragmented dead. So neither

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of those options are defined in the time. And how this cash waste is actually going to be

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obstructing. So therefore, you're supposed to run out of offers so you can see some can't determine

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what's going to discharge. So what the effect is going to be or what's what. Right. It's not a good

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contingency. No, I don't know if it is. Oh, yes, we make decisions,

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contingencies, or conditions, all the time. And he's not saying, however, those

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conditions are typically, you know, to express milestones in a plan, will not

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to further develop the plan before moving forward.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, apparently. Say, I'm looking, you know, as incomplete and then,

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We don't exactly know the conditions that we have to build this catch basin in, and then

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once they know these conditions, then they can finalize the plan and how it's going to

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construct it.

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And we can turn and calculate the discharge quality of the team.

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It's like, that's the information that we use for sample.

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So

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are you suggesting that the motion tonight will wrap up all of that, or are you suggesting something else?

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I think that's included in the suggested motion.

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It's basically reason and reason.

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You see it's unable to determine what the impact of the regulatory level of the elements.

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What are the course that are and therefore the agency that's determined the piece of it.

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Yeah, it's also to find a reason to have a lot to say, you know, referencing this for our support,

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to where that information is requested, and what.

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I think that will solve that.

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For the questions and comments,

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go around that.

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And Daniel, just, no, I don't have a role of both.

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Like, he should pull out of the box and pull

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the last four. That seems him to run.

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7.43.1.

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My 10th.

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To my 10th thing.

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Said the application was submitted by the packet.

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The latest revision should be delivered by the packet.

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regulations in February or June on the twat.

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There's an area in there you think.

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The application was submitted via to the effective date of the latest revision of your

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and then weapons, weapon regulations in February 2025.

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According to the criteria, you may apply it to this existed prior to that event.

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The event will speak about its activity that is outside of the

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Yeah.

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Most of this project, except with a small range of section.

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It's outside clearly.

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What we're trying to say is we have a maintenance termination.

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We have regulations.

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We're going to revise the.

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See therefore.

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We

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answer that question.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So take this.

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Yeah.

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So, those basins, the drainage is going directly into the regulated up-and-review area.

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So there is activity with the discharge which is relevant to a regulated area that

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you guys need to make the discharge addition of adverse impact.

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You look at the plans, you see the outlet structure, the litter, the edge, so the water is

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not going to stop at an imaginary line and the problem if discharge is into the regulated

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up-and-there.

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So even though majority of the project is pulled out of that URA, they still have activity which is water coming off the side.

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I just want to see.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Well, it's a good point.

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What kind of station?

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Good.

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Awesome.

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You're in.

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No.

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So my piece.

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Don't have any work.

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We are ready for the motion.

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Motion to deny.

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Sorry, before you continue, may I make a suggestion?

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Yes.

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Staff is actually recommended that the motion be denied without prejudice.

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that we give the applicant the opportunity to state the required testing and lease immunification.

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So we are suggesting that it's a denial without prejudice. You can make a motion to deny. That's fine too.

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But staff is suggesting without prejudice.

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I was just reading the motion number in motion to deny it. Oh, I'm sorry.

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But then we said that again, I know, I got it.

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I think the staff reports they have denied with them.

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Yes.

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I followed those for that.

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So it would be a motion to deny without prejudice, correct?

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I'll make that motion.

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Okay.

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Please read it.

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After giving due consideration to all relevant factors, including those in section 6 of those

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ledgered inland wetland regulations in section 22A-40 of the Connecticut General Statutes,

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I move to deny application IWC number 25 site and associated site improvements for construction of a 278 unit multifamily dwelling housing development and two buildings and associated site improvements as more fully described in the application and supporting documents dated to 2425 and a plan entitled proposed site plan documents for CL clue and LLC proposed residential development 1929, 39 military highway gills buried ledger new London County, Connecticut.

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prepared by the whole engineering data, 219-25, revised, 5 2025, and all application exhibits

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for the following reasons. Reason number one, the applicant is incomplete and that the applicant

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did not comply with multiple requests of the task consulting engineer, CLA engineers, DLA,

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to provide test bits and permeability information, which soil evaluations can be done by qualified

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professional at any time of the year and help document that the given site can support the storm

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water management design for the project. Without this information, CLA could not determine if the

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soil's on-site can fully support the proposed storm water management system design, and that without

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this information, CLA cannot confirm that the storm water management features are appropriately

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sized in accordance with the 2024 Connecticut storm water quality manual, and it cannot be determined

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if the project would have an impact on the on-site regulated uplands inlands, inland wetlands, and

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and more water forces areas.

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CCLA Engineers Exhibit Assembly, 27, 37, 46,

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and 50 for the record.

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Reason number two, pursuant to Connecticut General Statutes,

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Section 22A-19, et cetera.

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The Gail Ferry District, A.K.A. Gail Ferry Fire District,

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and the Emberry individually have final verified notices

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of intervention, exhibit 17, and 26 respective length.

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Here in notices, stating that the proposed administrative

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proceeding involves conduct which has or which is reasonably likely to have the effect of unreasonably

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polluting, impairing, destroying the public trust in the air, water, and other natural resources

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of the states within the jurisdiction of the agency in the following ways in staff's opinion.

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Number one, notice inspections for a, b, c, m, and q, which state, a, the application has not

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meet the standards of approval, b, the applicant has failed to provide evidence to demonstrate that

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the application will not result in long-term impacts on wetland and water

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courses. See the applicant has failed to provide evidence to demonstrate that

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the application will not result in irreversible and irretrievable laws of

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wetland and water courses. And no soil testing has been conducted in basin 1D

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to determine if the soils are suitable for infiltration. The applicant has

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failed to demonstrate that they're required vertical separations in the

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2020-24 manual, and I kick deep, 2020-24, water quality manual. I met for seasonal high-ground water and or bedrock. The design per basin is billened. One D is not in compliance. Q, such other and further aspects as may be determined from the applicant's store and water management plan. Number two, notice the section 6, which states it is the responsibility of the applicant in this administrative proceeding to adequately develop by the

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the introduction of substantial evidence,

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all record evidence that will address the issues raised herein

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with respect to the potential impacts in the applicant

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has the burden of establishing that the proposed action

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would not have significant impacts

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as alleged and that no alternatives exist

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that would reduce or eliminate the potential

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for such adverse impacts.

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And the reason number three,

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the agency is unable to determine what the impacts

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on the regulated uplands, inland wetlands,

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and or water courses area of harm.

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And therefore, the agency cannot determine

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and infeasible and food and alternatives are required.

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Just to ask you to amend your motion,

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just to slide it.

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Sure.

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At the beginning we said include those in session six,

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which are first just defines regulated activities

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to also include session 10,

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which is our criteria for decision session.

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So after you and do serage of our own factors,

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including those in session six,

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also in session 10, which is our criteria for the seat.

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So in section 10, I also asked the removal phrase, the staff's opinion, as this is our

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motion, and not the staff's opinion.

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So we moved.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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At all.

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I kind of request you're exposing them to the subject, whether it's the gift of the second

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on the first motion, and then doing the second, I'm sorry, do you have a second to alter

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it back in the second?

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The original motion.

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No, you haven't answered any questions.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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Thanks.

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No, you're welcome.

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Thank you for your support.

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Okay.

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Thanks.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your support.

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That's probably.

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All right.

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I think you were stated.

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And I actually had.

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May I.

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Also.

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As we're reading along here.

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In paragraph one.

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You made it clear it was emotional to die without prejudice,

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but the motion said just denied.

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Could you amend that to say.

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deny without prejudice in the first notion and one thing that I wanted to check

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with our town engineer on I believe the town engineer said Basin 1D could

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the town engineer confirm that it's Basin 1D versus 1D that the testing must

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not conduct an inquiry. Yeah, I'm still here. Yes, Kyle Haber from CLI. I believe

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It was one E is the larger base and that was that did not have the testing in it.

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The verified notice of intervention stated one D but I believe there was a lack of testing in one D also more so and E was my was my concern.

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So I would, I would amend it to save one day and I'm talking, you know, we, we, we forwarded

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from the, you know, if I notice a intervention, so what you may want to do is add, add a reason

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So let me see the motion at a reason two, the way it's three, stating that one he didn't even,

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there's not adequate testing done on the post-base in one he.

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Is it at 51 to email to you from Mr. Hubert to mention the one he and one D.

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Okay, so both.

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So that would be the reason number three.

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Well, or because you need cash now. So if you look at reason number two, okay, point one,

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staff has put directly from the verify notice of intervention. So the

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interveners stated and no soil testing has been conducted in base in 1D to

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determine if soils are suitable. But our town engineer is telling us that it's

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not just 1D, it's 1D. So I wish, and then reason number two to be reason two point array

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that adequate no soil testing has been conducted in basin, 1D or 1D,

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churned soils are suitable for infiltration. So after notice the section six, because that's

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That's a comment that did not come directly, was not quoted directly from this verified nurse of intervention.

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1A for Q were quoted directly from the verified nurse of the instrument.

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I see. So that doesn't capture the 1V. Correct.

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So we don't capture the 1V. Correct.

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And two points. You could use the same wording.

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Three. So it would be reason number two.

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adding 5.3,

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that no soil testing has been conducted in basin 1D 4.1D to determine if the

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soils are suitable for infiltration. You can say what I said.

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So it would be an addition of

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it would be 3.3. So the reason is number 3.

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And we can re-resistrate the records for you if you

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would like I would want to then do it then

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deliberating on which one. So it doesn't affect

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A through Q because that was directly from the

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intervention correct right so it's just the

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2.3 that's about where you're passing

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wasn't too much it's an addition it's an addition

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and his report did say one point D to do so it's not

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new information information that was submitted

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during the public care.

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I'm still not seeing Justin when you're adding.

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Also, I don't feel like number 10, section 10.

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At the very beginning, after meeting new considerations

477
00:36:33,590 --> 00:36:34,550
with all of our old partners,

478
00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:36,070
including those in session six,

479
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:37,170
and session 10s,

480
00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:38,490
about the lettering the number, and so on.

481
00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:39,190
That's your reason.

482
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:40,490
That's your reason.

483
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,010
Is that it just captures our criteria for the suit?

484
00:36:43,710 --> 00:36:45,350
Well, it says including captures all of our regulations,

485
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:47,390
so I guess we're having to think about that a little bit.

486
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:48,990
That's okay.

487
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,800
So that in section 10, adding without prejudice,

488
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,120
I just, prejudice, motion to deny with that prejudice,

489
00:37:01,580 --> 00:37:04,280
adding section six and section 10

490
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,660
in the legend, the law of the law,

491
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,160
section two A, and then adding a 2.3,

492
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,680
and out of the testing, and based in 180.

493
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:17,900
1D and 1D and 1D.

494
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:24,720
For the tech, you can say,

495
00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:26,860
for the talent's consultant to you, how's that saying?

496
00:37:27,180 --> 00:37:27,240
Quick.

497
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:48,090
So does this constitute a new motion after all those?

498
00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:49,510
Yes, you have to, all right.

499
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:56,490
So you had a original motion in a second, and then you have to discuss it, and now you have to

500
00:37:56,970 --> 00:37:59,650
amend the motion and have a second for that.

501
00:38:01,850 --> 00:38:04,170
Would you like us to read the amended motion in?

502
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:09,590
Would you please position and tap into this amendment so that you can, you want me to read the whole

503
00:38:09,590 --> 00:38:15,630
thing in or just the changes? This is just read the whole thing. Okay, so I'm going to just do this

504
00:38:15,630 --> 00:38:19,230
So a motion number one, a motion to deny without prejudice.

505
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:31,130
After giving due consideration to all relevant factors, including those in section 6 and section 10 criteria for decision,

506
00:38:32,490 --> 00:38:37,930
of the ledger in the wetlands regulations in section 22A-40 of the clinic of general statutes,

507
00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:41,610
I move to deny without prejudice application.

508
00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:49,230
IWWC number 2-5-5-5 site and associated site improvements for construction of a 278 unit

509
00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:53,770
holding family dwelling housing development in two buildings and associated site improvements

510
00:38:53,770 --> 00:39:00,690
as more fully described in the application and supporting documents dated to 24-24 and a plan

511
00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:07,850
in title proposed site plan documents for St. Ericville and LLC proposed residential development 19-29-39

512
00:39:07,850 --> 00:39:12,270
military, high-might-gill history, ledger New London County, Connecticut, prepared by

513
00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:19,490
Boulder Engineering, data, 219-25, revised to 520-25, and all applicable exhibits in the

514
00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:25,190
following reasons. Reason number one, the applications incomplete in that the applicant did not complete

515
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:31,270
with multiple, did not comply with multiple requests of the times consulting engineer. CLA,

516
00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:37,470
engineer, CLA to provide test grids and permeability information which soil evaluations can be done

517
00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:40,410
and by a qualified professional at any time of the year

518
00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:42,130
and help document the given site

519
00:39:42,130 --> 00:39:44,230
can support the scoreboard management design

520
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:44,950
to the project.

521
00:39:45,630 --> 00:39:46,730
Without this information,

522
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:49,790
CLA could not determine if the suicide can close

523
00:39:49,790 --> 00:39:52,570
aboard the proposed scoreboard management system design

524
00:39:52,570 --> 00:39:54,370
and that without this information,

525
00:39:54,590 --> 00:39:57,210
CLA cannot confirm that the scoreboard management features

526
00:39:57,210 --> 00:39:59,010
are appropriately sized and important

527
00:39:59,010 --> 00:40:02,450
with the 2024 Connecticut scoreboard quality men.

528
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:05,710
And it cannot be determined if the project would have an impact

529
00:40:05,710 --> 00:40:10,650
on the onsite-regulated uplands in the wetlands and our water forces areas.

530
00:40:10,890 --> 00:40:14,530
C-C-L-A engineers exhibits number 27, number 37,

531
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:17,510
number 46, and number 50 for the record.

532
00:40:18,010 --> 00:40:22,310
Reason number two, for sure, to Connecticut General Statutes 22-A-19,

533
00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:29,090
at Thal, the Galesbury District also known as the Galesbury Fire District,

534
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:33,390
and Leonbury individually have filed a verified nurses of intervention.

535
00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:40,290
Exhibits 17 and 26 respectively, here and after notices, stating that the proposed administrative

536
00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:46,370
proceeding involves conduct which has, or which is reasonably likely to have, the effect

537
00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:50,370
of other reasonably polluting and parent or destroying the public trust in the air water

538
00:40:50,370 --> 00:40:55,530
and other natural resources that is made within the jurisdiction of the agency in the following

539
00:40:55,530 --> 00:41:02,330
in ways. Number one, notices sections for A, B, C, and Q, which state? A, the applicant

540
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:06,770
does not meet the standards of approval. B, the applicant has failed to provide evidence

541
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:11,490
to demonstrate that the application will not result in long-term impacts on wetlands

542
00:41:11,490 --> 00:41:17,010
or water portions. C, the applicant has failed to provide evidence to demonstrate that the application

543
00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:23,150
will not result in irreversible and irretrieve the loss of wetland or water portions, and no

544
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:28,810
No soil testing has been conducted in Basin-1D to determine if the soils are suitable for infiltration.

545
00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:34,370
The UFN is built to demonstrate that the required vertical separations in the 2024 manual

546
00:41:34,370 --> 00:41:40,690
NECD-2024 stormwater quality manual are met for seasonal high-ground water and-or-fed rock.

547
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:44,450
The design for Basin-1D is not in compliance.

548
00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:50,150
Thank you. Such other and further aspects has maybe determined from the UFN stormwater management.

549
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:51,390
2

550
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,400
.2 notices section 6 which states it is the responsibility of the applicant in the administrative

551
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,720
proceeding to adequately develop by the introduction of substantial evidence of the record evidence

552
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:10,660
that will address the issues raised herein with respect to the potential impacts and the applicant

553
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:16,040
has the burden of establishing that the proposed action would not have significant impacts as a

554
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,220
ledge in that no alternative success that would reduce or eliminate the potential for such adverse

555
00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:28,740
in fact. Reason number 2.3 seconds.

556
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:34,020
No soil testing has been conducted in

557
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:40,020
base in 1.1 B and 1.E to determine if the soils are suitable for infiltration

558
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:50,540
in accordance with the reports of the town engineers, CLA engineers. Reason 3, the

559
00:42:50,540 --> 00:42:54,920
agency is unable to determine what the impacts on the regulating

560
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:00,000
helplines in the wetlands and our water forces areas are and therefore the agency

561
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,260
cannot determine if the usable and through alternatives are required. I think we

562
00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:06,220
got it right there.

563
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,320
That's your motion.

564
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,280
That would be an amended motion.

565
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,520
Yep.

566
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,240
If you have any motion, can you view any motion?

567
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,760
Is that any?

568
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,940
Yeah.

569
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:23,640
I recommend the amount of motion.

570
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:24,340
Right?

571
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:25,580
All in there.

572
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,720
All right.

573
00:43:28,060 --> 00:43:28,700
Motion passes.

574
00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:31,480
Thank you.

575
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,630
Thank you.

576
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:41,810
Welcome.

577
00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:44,670
Welcome.

578
00:43:56,330 --> 00:43:59,070
So, we still have the rest of our meeting to get up.

579
00:44:00,050 --> 00:44:00,450
Okay.

580
00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:02,810
Thank you.

581
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:03,190
Thank you.

582
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:03,710
Thank you.

583
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:04,630
Thank you.

584
00:44:04,930 --> 00:44:06,250
All right.

585
00:44:06,350 --> 00:44:07,090
We've run new business.

586
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:09,150
Now, if you have a single thing to get at,

587
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:09,510
I mean,

588
00:44:10,210 --> 00:44:11,350
especially on that,

589
00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:13,610
Just introduce what we're talking about.

590
00:44:15,550 --> 00:44:19,030
We'll just give it a minute here, very little drought.

591
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:30,680
Thank you very much.

592
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:34,860
Thank you very much.

593
00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:39,500
Thank you.

594
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:41,100
I mean, thank you.

595
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:43,300
Thank you.

596
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:44,300
I'm gay, I'm a second.

597
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:48,680
I'm glad that someone said that.

598
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:51,400
I hope it's seen our commissioners.

599
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,140
I'm happy.

600
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:53,960
I'm in love.

601
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:54,640
Thank you.

602
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:56,320
Thank you very much.

603
00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:57,800
That was pretty fun.

604
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,440
I love the phone.

605
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:58,840
I like.

606
00:44:59,380 --> 00:44:59,740
Okay.

607
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,460
We have a state of Connecticut ad hoc rate. Do you want to take this or do you want me to? So, so there's an organization called Sustainable CT. And in 2020, on March 11, 2020, the Leather Town Council adopted a town of ledger resolution supporting the participation in the Sustainable CT municipal certification program. I was here when this happened and I was involved in

608
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:31,820
this resolution at that time.

609
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:35,220
Recognizing built that stateable CT

610
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:38,060
is a comprehensive statewide action-oriented

611
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,280
voluntary certification program

612
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,020
built by informed municipalities

613
00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:45,260
with the vision that stateable CT communities strive

614
00:45:45,260 --> 00:45:46,880
to be thriving, resilient,

615
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,020
collaborative, and forward thinking.

616
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:53,080
I'm not gonna read the rest.

617
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:55,260
I'm trying to give you a summary

618
00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:57,800
of what stateable CT does.

619
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,640
And that pretty much summarizes their, they're, they're, they're,

620
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,680
I can't think of the word right now. It's been a long day. Not their purpose, but

621
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,620
they're mission. They're mission.

622
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:11,440
They're mission. Yes. Thank you.

623
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,780
So we're a sustainable CT community.

624
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:22,120
And we can apply through grants. Sustainable CT gives out grants, not large ones.

625
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,060
But once you're a sustainable CT community, you could in fact apply for grants

626
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:28,220
that's her sustainable CT.

627
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:29,940
It's not just municipalities,

628
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,100
other people can apply for grants.

629
00:46:32,220 --> 00:46:33,420
I think the Tritown Trail,

630
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
by birth grant through there at one point.

631
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,660
I could be wrong.

632
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:40,880
So the current town council has decided

633
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,040
that it wants to go further.

634
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:47,490
So now therefore, they passed a resolution on June 25th,

635
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,220
I believe, I'm off 2025.

636
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:54,780
Now therefore, be it resolved that to focus attention

637
00:46:54,780 --> 00:47:01,080
in effort within the town of Lederd on matters of sustainability in order to promote local initiatives

638
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,820
and actions toward sustainable Connecticut municipal certification, the Lederd town council

639
00:47:06,820 --> 00:47:13,960
establishes a Lederd sustainable Connecticut ad hoc committee to be comprised of five members

640
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:20,140
appointed by the Lederd town council. Those members shall, as much as possible, be representative

641
00:47:20,140 --> 00:47:24,480
as well as one member from planning and zoning or in the wetlands and water

642
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,320
forces commission, one member from economic development commission or

643
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,100
conservation commission, one member from the town council, Lane News Committee and

644
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:39,140
two members from the community at large. For the result each member shall serve

645
00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:42,800
a term of two years, members shall commence to serve their terms immediately

646
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,720
upon appointment and shall serve until their successor has qualified or have been

647
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:53,740
re-appointed or removed by the time council. And it goes on to talk about absences. Be it for the

648
00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:59,100
result that the committee is authorized to work with the legislature and the mayor to engage staff

649
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:05,740
and or contract with consultant or a sustainable CT fellow through the Southeastern Connecticut

650
00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:11,260
Council of Governance. Review the sustainable CT toolkit and guidelines into ownership of

651
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:17,240
preparation and submission of application at the appropriate time. Develop initiative goals and

652
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:22,640
recommendations to achieve points required to complete the process to obtain sustainable

653
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,400
CT certification to include building our community and our local economy, equiably promote

654
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,080
the health and well-being of current and future residents, encourage and participate in

655
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,160
regional collaboration in other forms of partnership, and improve the services of quality of

656
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:44,500
life for our residents as well focusing on sustainability efficiencies and reducing the impact

657
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,580
of inflationary cost for residents.

658
00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:49,820
Work for the public work circle and through-based composting

659
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:51,820
can under a waste management initiatives

660
00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:53,960
worked with the PNZ commission to ensure

661
00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:56,440
town's POCD supports proposed

662
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,160
sustainable communicating initiatives

663
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,640
work with the Board of Education to ensure

664
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,260
that literature educational facility needs are considered

665
00:49:03,260 --> 00:49:04,860
and met in developing a plan

666
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,040
and implementing sustainable CT initiatives

667
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,500
fair and present to the town council for approval.

668
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:12,900
A capital improvement plan to support

669
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:18,900
and move the Sustainable CC plan forward, identify funding sources including grant funding and other

670
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:24,160
grassroots funding options, such as in our backyard grants to support the goals and initiatives

671
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,060
conspiring with the town's grant policy, and work with the finance director on the application

672
00:49:29,060 --> 00:49:34,160
administration of any grant funding received, and the preparation of BIDS VACS and advertisement

673
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:41,080
or request proposals to facilitate stateable CC initiatives and importance with ordinance 200

674
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,720
does 0-0-1, purchasing organs for the time of the ledger.

675
00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:50,320
So if I can, I'm going to tell you what I know about the Sustainable CT

676
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,580
program and then Anna is going to tell you a little bit about the

677
00:49:54,580 --> 00:49:59,900
points that you can use that, right? So Sustainable CT has three levels

678
00:50:00,820 --> 00:50:05,320
of certification for municipalities, bronze, silver, and a bowl.

679
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,020
I think that I'm pretty sure Preston has it. I know that Montville

680
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:15,780
achieve from certification when I was the town planner there and there's multiple other

681
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:20,680
towns in South Eastern Connecticut that have achieved these certifications to basically

682
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:29,760
get back to the park that says review the sustainable CT tool getting guidelines and oversee

683
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,660
the preparation and submission, develop initiatives goals recommendation to achieve points.

684
00:50:34,660 --> 00:50:40,700
So various initiatives and various goals get a certain amount of point value.

685
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:47,200
One thing that Anna and I have already been sort of talking about this since this before

686
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,880
this was even adopted is when we think of things that I recall when Montenegro got their

687
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,840
bronze certification.

688
00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:55,960
We've started a little look.

689
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:03,860
For example, the Lantern Hill Park out on the Long Pine Road that's going to the Recreation

690
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:11,860
department. It's going to be creating parking areas, cartop, vote launch for kayaks, news.

691
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:18,480
They're going to be putting in a gizmo. That's something that would most likely

692
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,060
become an initiative that we've received points. Once you get a certain amount of points,

693
00:51:24,220 --> 00:51:30,320
you get bronzer page. And you get a nice fact. You are honored by the sustainability of people

694
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:38,080
with the banquet. And your hard work is recognized. The town's hard work and being sustainable

695
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,960
is recognized. Once you have bronze, you can move up to silver and then gold. I don't know a lot

696
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,600
about how many golds were there. Did you have them to see? Oh, it's looking to be less than 100 golds in

697
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:56,300
somewhere in here. So Anna's been sort of put Anna and I in an attempt to try to get ahead of the

698
00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:00,900
games are trying to put, when we see projects or things

699
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,680
that the town is doing, we're trying to make a list.

700
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:07,760
So that recreation project is something

701
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,100
that is current that can receive point 4.

702
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:14,740
Now back in March of 2020, the town had done

703
00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:18,100
a ton of things, like street light replacements,

704
00:52:19,460 --> 00:52:22,360
different things that they thought we

705
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,120
could be able to get the strong certification.

706
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,200
Unfortunately, when all the points got added up, you know, it was, did it too long ago,

707
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,600
there's a certain time period in which you have to do these things, and it kind of fell

708
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:39,060
through the cracks. And you know, we have small staff and it never got off the ground as far

709
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:44,380
as getting certification. That is what the town council would like to do at this ad hoc committee.

710
00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:49,880
I think they're going to maybe, well, it's a month. We don't have all of the information.

711
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:59,840
It's managed well, there's wanted to be a mandatory that the committee needs orderly if needed more, but definitely for 20 years. So I have a question certification.

712
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:13,940
Does that equal getting grants are those two separate things? Now, we can still get grants, but you know, you know how the certification or corresponds with getting grants, I think.

713
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,580
I'm sorry, what?

714
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:28,460
I mean, it's nice to be certified, but I mean, if we're doing this stuff, and we're getting grants, you know, how much weight do we get to see?

715
00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:30,640
I don't know, like, level of grants.

716
00:53:31,460 --> 00:53:41,620
If it's essentially the equivalent of the, I don't know, the play buttons that YouTube

717
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:51,660
sends out to people that get tons of subscribers on YouTube, I don't really see the whole big deal.

718
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,560
It's just a, hey, you get a party and wow, you got black.

719
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:57,840
So, from this discussion, what's really being asked straight?

720
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:04,900
We can debate whether we like this or not, but to our effect, that what is being asked of the weapons commission, but this...

721
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:06,420
We need somebody to sign up.

722
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:08,860
Thank you.

723
00:54:09,940 --> 00:54:10,520
Thank you.

724
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,660
Thank you.

725
00:54:12,540 --> 00:54:23,480
So, the EDC, at the last meeting, we put this forth to them and they decided to sit down at it once.

726
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:34,520
No, the economic development commission they're sitting on that's there the town council made one member of either economic or conservation permissions economic development provision.

727
00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:39,220
I can tell you no one raised their hands and said they would think about it.

728
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:42,460
Till the next month, I'm not positive.

729
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:46,740
So we're going to get any volunteers.

730
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,960
I think that one of the members thought that maybe more members of the public, some younger

731
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:59,140
members of the public that want to see where future ledger is going, would sit in on it,

732
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,600
but we have what we have.

733
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:06,460
It was passed by the town council, so we are going to the folks that they would like to have

734
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:08,400
them this committee and asking for a volunteer.

735
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,840
You can certainly read through this, Anna was putting together, what were you putting together?

736
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,140
I've drafted up an information email to send out to anybody who's interested on all the

737
00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:22,900
communications, or there's you can see here, you guys, if you want more information about

738
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:27,260
the program, it looks like your expectations to be a workload would be, but there's a lot

739
00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:32,180
of resources and training that's already listed on website, so if that's something that you're

740
00:55:32,180 --> 00:55:37,060
interested in, there's a lot there, but obviously, I would definitely be interested.

741
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,000
I'll squeeze it in sometime, I'll squeeze in some time.

742
00:55:46,020 --> 00:55:54,360
So I think that, so, so I don't know that you need a motion, but since you have a motion in a second, would you like to vote?

743
00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:58,880
I'll look very, very well.

744
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,220
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

745
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,140
And Mike, you don't have another shot at it.

746
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,680
You see your funds are based on my.

747
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:14,520
So you have another shot at it.

748
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,640
And I know that.

749
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,220
I'm not in the email today.

750
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,360
I look for members of the community at large as well.

751
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,300
So, I don't know that anyone's yet volunteered there,

752
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,620
but I think they'll be happy that someone from

753
00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:32,720
in the mountains in water precious.

754
00:56:33,260 --> 00:56:36,060
There's a thing, a lot of this stuff we're doing,

755
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:39,620
like it's really just a sort of brainstorming

756
00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:42,320
and saying, hey, we're already doing this

757
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,480
for what can we do?

758
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:47,480
So, one thing that Montville did was their youth services person,

759
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,260
that's what Montville what they did was,

760
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:55,360
They did not use mission volunteers, they used town staff, they had someone from

761
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:01,420
recreation, youth services, social services, senior centers from their land use

762
00:57:01,420 --> 00:57:06,380
and one other. And they all sat down and brains for bold

763
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:11,440
the things that they were doing. And they were able to use services, they were

764
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:18,540
able to come up with a program that gave away laptops for those who were

765
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:26,580
income limited. So that was something that got points for this. So it's kind of a sort of

766
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:31,780
brainstorming session where you say, okay, this is a task. We get this many points for it.

767
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,580
Have we done this already? Have we done it in the time period that they allow it to be done?

768
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:45,580
What can we do to do it? So that's what this is. Has the board of ed been? They were not on the list.

769
00:57:45,580 --> 00:57:49,140
So they're not, I thought they have signed on this.

770
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,160
No, it says to work with the board of ed,

771
00:57:51,340 --> 00:57:53,200
the committee will work with the board of ed,

772
00:57:53,420 --> 00:57:56,100
but they are not one of the members

773
00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:00,360
that was a great senior call that was called out.

774
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:00,500
Um,

775
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:05,920
that's a job.

776
00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:09,820
Maybe that was that the single CT USA has also provided a very

777
00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:13,640
comprehensive list of essentially actions that get points.

778
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,680
I'm out of you guys want to put that on the screen.

779
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,320
Yeah, it's what you're doing.

780
00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:19,560
I have a couple more for my benefit.

781
00:58:19,860 --> 00:58:20,080
Yeah.

782
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,660
Anybody else?

783
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,180
We support you then.

784
00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:22,820
Which one?

785
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,640
I want to take up all your time.

786
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,720
Um, I'd love to see that actually.

787
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,020
What?

788
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:31,460
Sure.

789
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:32,160
Sure.

790
00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:32,660
What's your name?

791
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:33,740
Doug Kelly.

792
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,900
I'm on the historic commission.

793
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:36,260
Right.

794
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,760
That's appropriate for us.

795
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:39,920
But you still say.

796
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,660
Well, I am.

797
00:58:47,820 --> 00:58:55,560
I'm not sure that I want to volunteer for this, but I certainly would like to know what we can send you information about that.

798
00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:05,580
Okay.

799
00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:11,160
It's a great, the great open way, which was done, but I don't know if that's now too old.

800
00:59:12,020 --> 00:59:16,460
Well, we have a lot of things in our brains in the house.

801
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:19,040
So you should volunteer, I think, don't you?

802
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,460
They would.

803
00:59:20,020 --> 00:59:21,500
They would have said, I don't know.

804
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,380
I shouldn't.

805
00:59:23,620 --> 00:59:24,060
Brands.

806
00:59:24,340 --> 00:59:25,720
So here's your, here's the list.

807
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:26,140
Yeah.

808
00:59:26,580 --> 00:59:27,340
But it looks like.

809
00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:30,520
I mean, it's a little bit hard to see, but it's broken down by categories.

810
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:34,420
So here's stuff on like equity and community impacts.

811
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,280
They have stuff on like local economies.

812
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,800
I mean, this is such a long history of stuff too.

813
00:59:41,060 --> 00:59:42,640
There is quite a bit.

814
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,000
And so in this column over here, up towards the end,

815
00:59:46,140 --> 00:59:48,680
you can see how many points everything is worth.

816
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,640
They categorized by action type.

817
00:59:52,060 --> 00:59:53,960
And then they have on submission requirements.

818
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,920
So if we were to submit this for as part of certification,

819
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,660
they have guilty there as well.

820
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,560
And I think the other thing you want to do is once you've got your bronzer vacation, you want to then look ahead for silver and for gold. And we wrap this into the POCD, or is it? Or no, but the POCD does talk about sustainability, or maybe when the POCD is updated, there is a chapter on sustainability. Right now, I don't have the funds.

821
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:28,800
and that's it.

822
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,780
So it's Chris B.

823
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,720
I'm trying to see if there's some sword section.

824
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:37,580
There's also stuff on woodlands and management and.

825
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,000
Yeah, making trails.

826
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:45,720
But as creative culture yeah, all that type of stuff.

827
01:00:46,220 --> 01:00:46,940
Yeah, the performances.

828
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,440
You don't have to do all of them.

829
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:55,220
You could do, you know, pick some you can pick one so that the town has already done.

830
01:00:56,180 --> 01:01:00,640
And if they meet the guidelines, you can submit your application.

831
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,640
We only take them like, I think twice a year, there's deadlines that you have to submit

832
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,100
them by.

833
01:01:08,940 --> 01:01:13,060
But they do give you a nice little pocket, they have a nice little party and they, I think

834
01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:19,100
they come to the town wall and it's kind of, or the record I looked at up there are only

835
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:21,040
seven towns that can get their gold certified.

836
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:28,000
So I'm just saying we don't know how you're doing over 150 yes, but it's like a hundred hundred thirty eight that are

837
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,760
Registrar's sustainable CT only seven number gold certified

838
01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:34,480
There's a cool. No, there you are

839
01:01:35,540 --> 01:01:42,180
Okay, so for example, and now keep an eye out of the tone here. Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to say to no

840
01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:48,800
No, you didn't have they are gonna be a jitter's gonna be a jettas. It will be you know

841
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,820
The real hope can happen.

842
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:55,040
And maybe there's a full participation section in two.

843
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,940
So that's it for me.

844
01:01:59,100 --> 01:01:59,440
Sorry, Doug.

845
01:01:59,620 --> 01:02:00,240
OK, no, no.

846
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:07,260
So for example, if we were trying to develop the area

847
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:11,400
around what had been the lettered over in conjunction

848
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:17,500
with the tribe and sort of further develop what

849
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,100
but we offer at the lesser house,

850
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:20,640
that pull ups for our property,

851
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,260
maybe something like that.

852
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:25,980
Yeah, we have to look at the task list.

853
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Sure, there's going to be a very good,

854
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,560
but yeah, that's, that's,

855
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,960
we've already started, we've already started,

856
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,140
I'm like, an idea will come and I'm like,

857
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:36,980
oh, I know about this, I'm not going to list,

858
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,620
so we've tried to get a list going

859
01:02:38,620 --> 01:02:39,640
so that we can get a,

860
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,100
when the committee gets farmed, we can get a jump.

861
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,920
So, but the meetings will be posted,

862
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,240
and we can send you the email,

863
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,320
but if you want a lot, that would be fine.

864
01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:48,820
Okay,

865
01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:51,590
that's true.

866
01:02:53,210 --> 01:02:54,810
Yeah, that might be.

867
01:02:56,810 --> 01:03:00,250
Hannah, you're also now a assistant person.

868
01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:01,170
That's too many.

869
01:03:03,690 --> 01:03:05,630
Yeah, you have a idea, you're in.

870
01:03:07,490 --> 01:03:09,150
So, no, thank you.

871
01:03:09,290 --> 01:03:14,130
I appreciate that you have volunteered to serve us.

872
01:03:15,630 --> 01:03:20,050
So we got on that. Thank you. Thank you guys.

873
01:03:21,550 --> 01:03:23,150
I've learned a bit, Mr. Chairman.

874
01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:28,990
Say yes, Melissa. Say no.

875
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:32,810
No, just keep saying, yeah.

876
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:39,330
We'll just start here with the regular meetings for minutes of July to

877
01:03:39,330 --> 01:03:41,210
versus everyone have an opportunity to review them.

878
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:51,550
I know Jeff Ward's name is Mrs. Spelke, on set at page 4.5

879
01:03:51,550 --> 01:03:54,270
set of graphs down, B-O-R-D, B-O-A-R-D.

880
01:03:55,450 --> 01:03:58,350
Also, we'd be appointed to the top of this regular 100th

881
01:03:58,350 --> 01:03:59,690
and it means that it's important to know

882
01:03:59,690 --> 01:04:02,190
because the main set of options is hand-goated.

883
01:04:04,330 --> 01:04:06,510
So if that were thing again, is that something?

884
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:10,590
No, she's going to be never a point to type in.

885
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:13,410
They'll never actually said that he was seated.

886
01:04:14,410 --> 01:04:17,410
So is it your thing or else I got to know what to talk really important?

887
01:04:17,730 --> 01:04:19,230
Are you sure? We go back to check it.

888
01:04:19,350 --> 01:04:20,870
Would you mind going back to check it again?

889
01:04:21,610 --> 01:04:22,770
If there is, is that true?

890
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:23,830
Yeah.

891
01:04:24,750 --> 01:04:27,470
It is a matter of point, but he is the motionor for the adjournment.

892
01:04:27,730 --> 01:04:27,890
Right.

893
01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:30,750
So we're still there.

894
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:32,710
Still go on.

895
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:34,670
What was I chairing that mean?

896
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:35,170
I didn't see it.

897
01:04:35,350 --> 01:04:37,510
I was scared, I didn't see it.

898
01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:38,070
I can tell you.

899
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:39,310
You can go.

900
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Yeah.

901
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,220
We can find you for a bill.

902
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,920
I'll go get stretch again.

903
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,140
Go on.

904
01:04:49,030 --> 01:04:49,570
Stand up.

905
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:50,870
Stand up.

906
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:51,190
Hold off.

907
01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:51,350
Hold the dog foot.

908
01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:52,330
We're going to use the last.

909
01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:55,130
You're going to have to count the last.

910
01:04:55,130 --> 01:04:57,110
You're going to have to count your last.

911
01:04:57,230 --> 01:04:57,450
So, right.

912
01:04:57,450 --> 01:04:57,890
Don't find it.

913
01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:59,050
And then buy it.

914
01:04:59,050 --> 01:04:59,370
All right.

915
01:04:59,550 --> 01:05:02,230
Let's start the weeding minutes of the July to 2nd, so.

916
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:03,530
But let's go.

917
01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:04,030
The POSR ends.

918
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:04,890
We can include it.

919
01:05:04,990 --> 01:05:05,470
No, the polar史.

920
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,380
More names.

921
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,020
Not here.

922
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:48,560
Right.

923
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:55,440
It's okay, so I'll page two, very bottom, Jim Kelly.

924
01:05:57,020 --> 01:05:57,580
Jimmie.

925
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,360
Jimmie.

926
01:06:01,820 --> 01:06:02,380
Eleanor.

927
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:03,800
I don't know if that's her.

928
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:04,680
That's not.

929
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,140
She's here.

930
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:05,600
She's here.

931
01:06:10,770 --> 01:06:11,330
She's here.

932
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,520
I get a memory.

933
01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:19,260
I'm sorry.

934
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,580
Oh, tired.

935
01:06:21,260 --> 01:06:22,020
She trained me.

936
01:06:22,180 --> 01:06:22,300
Okay.

937
01:06:22,420 --> 01:06:22,780
She did.

938
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:24,760
I failed her.

939
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,740
page 3 or 4, prepare yourself, wish them early, and it's settled.

940
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:36,660
Sorry guys.

941
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:39,880
I'm not meant to be.

942
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,960
You've got both of the most people to think.

943
01:06:59,220 --> 01:07:08,310
I don't have to follow any additional commuters.

944
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:09,570
I just think we're all going to have.

945
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:11,150
Jerry, Jerry, what?

946
01:07:11,470 --> 01:07:11,750
I don't know.

947
01:07:12,630 --> 01:07:14,490
Since there are certain strategies ready for everybody.

948
01:07:15,010 --> 01:07:18,450
I think Chairman DeBroad asked for clarification of the basis.

949
01:07:18,910 --> 01:07:20,050
I think maybe even the basis.

950
01:07:21,790 --> 01:07:22,170
Yes.

951
01:07:22,450 --> 01:07:23,210
And test pit.

952
01:07:23,470 --> 01:07:24,290
You should have started out beyond.

953
01:07:24,730 --> 01:07:25,150
Come on.

954
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:26,810
I'll choose page three.

955
01:07:27,070 --> 01:07:29,130
One, two, three paragraphs up from the bottom.

956
01:07:31,540 --> 01:07:31,920
Basin.

957
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:35,480
Page three.

958
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,420
John, two, three.

959
01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:44,260
that's first line and the third. Yeah, based on the basis. Based on the basis.

960
01:07:47,340 --> 01:07:54,960
H3, fourth, bar and bar, up to long. That's it. That's it. It's the computer style.

961
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:03,420
Morally? No, actually, second line of that, where it says the director of verdict stated that the

962
01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:07,380
to come but have not been addressed as key time.

963
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Oh my gosh, there's a lot of things I need to do.

964
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,380
It is, you're not fired.

965
01:08:12,940 --> 01:08:14,420
Yeah, let's say, just don't know

966
01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:16,020
if she takes these leads in correct order.

967
01:08:16,260 --> 01:08:20,120
If I know, just hold these,

968
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:22,560
look at some, look at that.

969
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,180
That's all for that page.

970
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,240
I mean, there's a,

971
01:08:30,440 --> 01:08:31,840
I mean, there's an empty telekery school.

972
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:41,260
should it actually back to page 3 again. I don't remember this being mentioned. Second

973
01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:47,360
fault paragraph. She said that the town engineer asked for tests. It's on May 5th and

974
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:56,860
May 29th. There is no space between May 29th and the PAH should be... There's no period.

975
01:08:57,540 --> 01:09:01,520
just saying, I think it's a very good hold off the motion to approve.

976
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:05,880
You want us to redo them and you have to do the motion at your next meeting.

977
01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:13,820
I think for the 15 points, three fighters.

978
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,160
I got to prove that as amazing.

979
01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:19,360
Yeah I have.

980
01:09:22,830 --> 01:09:23,510
I have a problem with this.

981
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:23,950
Yeah, but I'm not proud tonight.

982
01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:24,410
I'll surround, just grab.

983
01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:26,510
Really when you decide.

984
01:09:26,890 --> 01:09:27,490
I'll вроде tonight.

985
01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:28,490
I'm older than.

986
01:09:29,190 --> 01:09:30,290
I'm older than.

987
01:09:30,990 --> 01:09:31,670
I'm older than.

988
01:09:31,830 --> 01:09:32,030
I want to leave.

989
01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:35,430
Okay, so we can make a motion to approve this one, right, that is.

990
01:09:35,610 --> 01:09:36,910
As amended, as amended.

991
01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:38,730
If I make a motion to approve this one.

992
01:09:38,730 --> 01:09:41,910
second, but I must say we're going to say what they're all in favor.

993
01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:44,090
As I ended, thank you.

994
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:50,850
First of all, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

995
01:09:51,170 --> 01:09:56,010
I received cars upon its conservation commission.

996
01:09:56,530 --> 01:09:59,130
It's somebody making a D.D.E.

997
01:09:59,210 --> 01:10:02,910
fee application, both willing to dock.

998
01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:07,570
Yes, and we received that today as well.

999
01:10:07,690 --> 01:10:09,090
That's 40 block road.

1000
01:10:09,370 --> 01:10:09,510
Right.

1001
01:10:09,890 --> 01:10:10,190
The sound.

1002
01:10:10,990 --> 01:10:18,850
That's on jurisdiction. It is. It is. It steeps your section. When you got it, we

1003
01:10:18,850 --> 01:10:23,070
issued a permit for the stairs to the dock because they were exempt something

1004
01:10:23,070 --> 01:10:29,370
postal management would do as, you know, an accessory structure. But anything in

1005
01:10:29,370 --> 01:10:32,790
the water has to be approved by the, but I think they're just giving us a, just

1006
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:38,470
added stuff. She has to add stuff. Yeah, we worked with them for a long time. One of

1007
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:39,930
There were other reasons we worked with them.

1008
01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:42,810
We needed to get a sign off of the gentleman

1009
01:10:42,810 --> 01:10:45,570
that released Shelter's Benz, too.

1010
01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:47,970
And we finally got that.

1011
01:10:48,290 --> 01:10:51,530
So he was able to, he needed that sign off for deep.

1012
01:10:52,050 --> 01:10:55,810
So it took a little while because he was not easily found

1013
01:10:55,810 --> 01:10:59,470
or reachable or whatever, but that what I'm pretty,

1014
01:10:59,650 --> 01:11:01,830
we're aware of the project and the Hanna's R.A.

1015
01:11:01,970 --> 01:11:03,950
should donate for Mr. Stairs to the doc.

1016
01:11:04,450 --> 01:11:05,710
Just curious why they sent it to me.

1017
01:11:05,710 --> 01:11:09,950
I don't know, just because some ledger we got it.

1018
01:11:10,030 --> 01:11:11,850
See, do you want me to just get it today for months now?

1019
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:13,010
Yeah, yeah.

1020
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:14,530
Yeah.

1021
01:11:16,330 --> 01:11:17,650
But I have something to go with.

1022
01:11:18,750 --> 01:11:22,310
Normally, normally, if you're building, if it's not exempt,

1023
01:11:22,610 --> 01:11:25,430
you need a chair application review from planning and zoning.

1024
01:11:26,770 --> 01:11:33,570
But in this case, the manwork side was exempt.

1025
01:11:33,570 --> 01:11:35,750
So there was nothing to have to do with the petition.

1026
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:40,010
This is why. Yeah, that's, I don't know.

1027
01:11:40,330 --> 01:11:44,730
Yeah, because they wanted you to have some more work to do.

1028
01:11:45,850 --> 01:11:49,050
Actually, I think that I know what they're going to do,

1029
01:11:49,150 --> 01:11:50,610
because I used to work on that.

1030
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:54,150
Yes, you have. You wouldn't know what they're doing.

1031
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:56,350
Okay.

1032
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:58,050
We want to correspond in the second.

1033
01:11:59,350 --> 01:12:00,370
So which one?

1034
01:12:00,770 --> 01:12:03,690
Yeah, I don't have any permits ever approved.

1035
01:12:03,850 --> 01:12:05,910
And let's July, I've got pending applications.

1036
01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:07,490
I need to review right now.

1037
01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:08,810
So that'll be next meeting.

1038
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:11,650
One, zero, three, one, co-root.

1039
01:12:11,930 --> 01:12:13,690
I'm actually going to go do a drive-by.

1040
01:12:13,890 --> 01:12:16,130
I'm going to actually just kind of like walk down the driveway.

1041
01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:17,310
It is public access.

1042
01:12:17,530 --> 01:12:19,930
Like it's okay for me to walk down that if I don't.

1043
01:12:19,930 --> 01:12:27,190
that. Slistered or dried wood? Yeah, cartilage, as they'll say in the law for zoning officials,

1044
01:12:27,190 --> 01:12:31,870
I can't just walk on your property. But I'm just going to check the, you know, and crossing

1045
01:12:31,870 --> 01:12:37,530
to make sure that if they did anything that, you know, or if it looks different, I'll observe it

1046
01:12:37,530 --> 01:12:42,070
and then we'll go from there. And because they haven't reached out, you know, I don't know what they're

1047
01:12:42,570 --> 01:12:54,310
back in, back in April. Yeah. They were pretty vocally. Yes. Vocal with their signs and all of a sudden, everything went quiet. So yeah, because sometimes the

1048
01:12:54,310 --> 01:13:09,870
standards work out things between each other and they don't necessarily tell us what's going on. So I'm going to take a look. So that was, that was just something that we're going to go into. What happened was there was a berm there that I stayed was keeping the water level up. And it was removed when they put the sheer drive way in and

1049
01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:14,670
accordance with the plan that was approved by the well-insed division. So they wanted the

1050
01:13:14,670 --> 01:13:20,330
bar moving back in or some sort of the boulders that were there to be an actual place. So it's

1051
01:13:20,990 --> 01:13:26,270
ours who knows maybe they did it and being jealous and things happy but I ask them to follow

1052
01:13:26,270 --> 01:13:28,270
All right.

1053
01:13:29,630 --> 01:13:29,830
Okay.

1054
01:13:30,910 --> 01:13:31,570
Which is nice.

1055
01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:35,030
That's that is true.

1056
01:13:36,730 --> 01:13:36,810
All right.

1057
01:13:36,970 --> 01:13:39,330
Let's move to the rest of it.

1058
01:13:40,670 --> 01:13:42,250
Where was the graph?

1059
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:42,790
Sorry.

1060
01:13:43,570 --> 01:13:44,170
He is.

1061
01:13:44,710 --> 01:13:45,290
Yes.

1062
01:13:45,650 --> 01:13:47,170
All right.

1063
01:13:47,170 --> 01:13:47,730
Hi.

1064
01:13:48,030 --> 01:13:49,550
All right.

1065
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:50,250
Build the ceiling.