1 00:00:10,020 --> 00:00:19,700 It's six o'clock. I'm calling the meeting of the electric agricultural permission to order. This time, we'll do a roll call, else an angeline. 2 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:29,660 President Russell Homeward has an excuse to have since Mike Morelli, President Katie U House, Steve Marateg, we're going to thorn as absent as well. 3 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,740 Any citizen comments? 4 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,400 I have a comment for either now or later about low-router processing. 5 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:43,060 So from my title trail, I'm going to talk about low-router processing, 6 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:48,040 separate opportunities. You can let it wherever you want. I think you can walk right now. Okay. 7 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,360 This is Karen Parkinson's, we got lawyers, aren't I? 8 00:00:52,500 --> 00:01:01,360 So, 55 rows of all of them have here with my President of Taitel and Trail Association have on. 9 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,600 And I also want to mention Councillor Tainley, I have this here, and also we have three members in the garden. 10 00:01:08,260 --> 00:01:13,640 Oh, we have a trail, I haven't been out on the trail for most of the summer. 11 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:26,270 We went at tram hike on Saturday morning, and I was really appalled about the amount of growth on the far side of them. 12 00:01:26,270 --> 00:01:36,450 That's what I'm talking about. Once upon a time of the 28th or so there probably is a cornfield, and we cleared it in 2018 or 2019. 13 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:49,030 We had our bushyong tractor over there, we actually mow the whole thing. We went across a water crossing, and mow the whole thing was the void of invasions. 14 00:01:49,410 --> 00:02:00,710 And now it's, it's, it's a, it's possible on our trail because we have a mower that comes in and mows the forefoot calf, but it's like over and it's in place. 15 00:02:00,710 --> 00:02:10,010 So I know in the Lisa Walter had that section was potentially 16 00:02:10,010 --> 00:02:16,910 reasonable to him once a low water crossing was established that area had been 17 00:02:16,910 --> 00:02:24,310 moved by the cow that never happened the whole time Russell had it and now it's not 18 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:34,550 Barbable at all, so it's a trail person and as of former farmer at Bimirely, 19 00:02:36,850 --> 00:02:43,830 all of his is almost like. When you let something go to a ruined life outfit, I guess we can't 20 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:52,710 call it by sure feels like white. They say that other towns and town property and residential properties 21 00:02:52,710 --> 00:03:01,130 for overgrowth like that. So it's neglect, at least. Okay, let's call it neglect. So I'm 22 00:03:01,130 --> 00:03:05,870 a long time ago, I researched slow cross, low water crossings, when we were trying to find 23 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:12,070 a crossing for the tight-town trail. And then that is when it taken as a hundred foot bridge 24 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:17,430 across it there, but the little rod of cross it is because there's so many for so far on either side 25 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:22,850 be the process of three hundred sixty-five and eighteen years. Well, a lot of crawls even 26 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:30,070 only do it during drop time. We have much to have that much of that. But I had 27 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:35,210 researched then to how to keep it going. And so I went through and researched again. And 28 00:03:35,210 --> 00:03:42,970 now that way I have AI. So you'd have all these long questions. So I answered, I will run a 29 00:03:42,970 --> 00:03:48,290 you know, I mean, it's a powerful, like, well, on farms owned by municipalities, and well, 30 00:03:48,350 --> 00:03:54,850 a brand symbol available. And so, you know, she kindly generated a good benefit, 31 00:03:55,030 --> 00:04:03,330 this I, I'll be with you, but there is, uh, the grants available for just that thing, 32 00:04:05,210 --> 00:04:11,350 connect it for one, for just for one. The Connecticut deal, AG, farm land, restoration, 33 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:13,490 of blood response grant. 34 00:04:13,810 --> 00:04:16,130 This is typically designed for municipalities, 35 00:04:16,570 --> 00:04:19,230 leading farmland currently in use by a farmer. 36 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:21,790 Is the Crosi was damaged by flooding 37 00:04:21,790 --> 00:04:23,790 or excessive rainfall this program 38 00:04:23,790 --> 00:04:26,770 provides up to $20,000 with a local caster 39 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:30,710 in Kai-Matchery Farm and in Kai-Kendum. 40 00:04:30,910 --> 00:04:32,670 All the two platforms still open. 41 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:38,070 That's just one of all lists of unites available. 42 00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:50,750 I know I had a discussion with the town before and I don't think there are much, they don't have the staff to write grants or many 43 00:04:50,750 --> 00:04:57,670 to grant the town was going to get a grant writer for the kind of person that this would 44 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:15,700 If you happen to decide as an agumission to seek administrative control of the clerk for this, I would write the grant for you, and me, because I'm a rich rat writer. 45 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:22,740 So, it's not that difficult to say some private villages, you've written or asked, you sure? 46 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:26,000 It's just, I just personally thought it's hard work. 47 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,280 But it's doable. 48 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 But that's what a many of it would be attainable. 49 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,700 And if we could make that a little lot of crossing, we'd, you know, there. 50 00:05:36,980 --> 00:05:40,700 And that'd be another reasonable piece of property or one time, I think, 51 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,840 The farmer, the long time ago, the farmer had a lease for it, and he had to just, when he was 52 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:51,620 leasing the farm land up across for me on the state property, he was required to leave 53 00:05:51,620 --> 00:06:01,460 X amount of foreign standing for the, the, the here and why it was, whoever the squirrels wanted, 54 00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:10,580 But that would be, or you could make it into a primitive of historic orchard, 55 00:06:10,580 --> 00:06:15,060 like apple trees and just let them go to the animals as well. 56 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:17,720 You could have all sorts of things you could be just for. 57 00:06:18,780 --> 00:06:20,380 But that's just mine. 58 00:06:20,540 --> 00:06:22,200 But they are also to you. 59 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,140 Okay. 60 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,460 Thank you. 61 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,300 That's that. 62 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,060 Are you? 63 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:30,560 Thank you. 64 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,120 All right. 65 00:06:31,580 --> 00:06:32,460 End of my discussion. 66 00:06:33,340 --> 00:06:33,500 Yep. 67 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:36,700 Any other citizen comments or comments was for Karen? 68 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,580 I know there's still plenty for the RFP to go out for the Clark Farm, which I find 69 00:06:44,580 --> 00:06:51,200 just incredible as you have done in the year, but I don't think all that we stand. 70 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,180 Any comments of commissioners? 71 00:06:56,180 --> 00:07:03,920 The Conservation Commission on Meeting last week, the black was there and he expressed 72 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:13,440 his desire to enroll his property, which would be not the 4-EAR, but 4-80, the heels 73 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,340 into selling the development rights. 74 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,000 I heard that. 75 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:24,440 So what I told him was, if he wants, if he, you know, pursues this, if he wants to come, 76 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,660 and we'll be able to kind of help you want to see our commission. 77 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,000 We are established, that's what we're here for. 78 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,160 So he said, thank you, we think about it. 79 00:07:31,540 --> 00:07:33,720 Yeah, he's a great person. 80 00:07:33,860 --> 00:07:34,500 I'd like to say that. 81 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:38,600 The least it's going in a good direction. 82 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,040 That way. 83 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,440 That works out. 84 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:42,860 What does he use in his room? 85 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:44,180 Hey. 86 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:47,120 Well, he's hanging. 87 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,680 It's happening. 88 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:49,240 You've seen it, right? 89 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:51,380 You know, we'll shoot the road. 90 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:58,140 If you go to town farm, you'll take it right as if you're going toward this, you've got to be the first three-way stop. 91 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,720 That's not it. 92 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,420 But anyway, can't go right. 93 00:08:01,820 --> 00:08:02,360 Can't go right. 94 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,940 Can you go around that real sharp? 95 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,700 The land right. 96 00:08:05,780 --> 00:08:07,020 You see what I see in the hay, right? 97 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:08,060 That's how it is. 98 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:08,300 Right. 99 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,800 It's beautiful farm land right into the snow. 100 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:15,900 And he's been, he's been bailing that for quite a few years. 101 00:08:16,220 --> 00:08:17,060 Not to a fruit juice. 102 00:08:19,810 --> 00:08:20,670 In the other correspondence, 103 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:28,370 comments from Commission for the other correspondence. I have some correspondence here as well for the 104 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:36,090 but we found a very old correct one of the corresponding pieces to 105 00:08:36,090 --> 00:08:45,110 re-enroll for the yearly fund which everybody would agree. We did that. It's a $200 fee that the town picks up. 106 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:53,180 And then we move on to a few minutes and at this point, I'm seeing Steve Bartek for a 107 00:08:53,180 --> 00:08:59,140 Russell Homework, Lori Bump, and everybody's looked at the minutes and the questions 108 00:08:59,140 --> 00:09:00,180 from the community 109 00:09:02,350 --> 00:09:09,450 during the commission members and comments, then I make a motion to 110 00:09:09,450 --> 00:09:13,670 something that says, President, Secretary of the Secretary of the 111 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:15,590 Secretary of the discussion, you're in one, all of 112 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:19,910 favor, aye. Opposed, so carried you down, sir. 113 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:23,030 Tell Houseville, Jays on report, Houseville, damn. 114 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:30,990 A. So, as Mike mentioned, the land use of planning public 115 00:09:30,990 --> 00:09:38,650 works of committing past the motion 302 move that 116 00:09:38,650 --> 00:09:50,070 to sell up to now council again. So I think in the, since the July 8th meeting to now a lot 117 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:59,470 of more information in the present end to the land use, the three old boat allows it to go to the next 118 00:09:59,470 --> 00:09:59,970 down but 119 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,560 I think there's still some maybe outstanding concerns from some of the committees, but planning and zoning had a favorable report. 120 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,620 Some of the chairs, that favors the reports. 121 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:17,940 I even called, like a dissentance of the holders of the restrictions. 122 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,160 They had very favorable reports. 123 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:29,220 So, the two things we did that to what we didn't have last time, and I was just reading them real quick. 124 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Legal documents will be prepared to remove the restriction for water, until they use only, 125 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,940 and to allow agricultural use at the expense of the buyer. 126 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:46,940 And in another caveat, we passed up for consideration for full-tone counsel. 127 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:54,160 of fire will take the necessary actions to place the permanent de-distriction on the parcel 128 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,320 for farming purposes only. So it's kind of covering that discussion we're talking about, 129 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:05,360 but thank you. That would give if it passes town council, that would give it can put to the 130 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:11,340 administration and put that kind of language into lawyers and whatnot. So schedule for that is 131 00:11:11,340 --> 00:11:21,640 It upholds through town council, town council meeting and discussing, I think, to have there's still some outstanding concerns from people, so there's going to be a discussion of the town council level. 132 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:38,620 on 1923, we suggested a public meeting, club of caring on October 14th, and then the town meeting would have to occur to prove all this on October 28th. 133 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:45,020 So that's kind of the rush schedule, but on the 1923 you'll know that that's the next step. 134 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:51,600 So you still have any concerns or issues or whatnot that I would advise you to make those 135 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:57,240 known to put down some prior to the 923, that's an update there. 136 00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:10,560 On a different note, I think we're leveraging this POCD challenge as we go forward as a community 137 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:16,420 building effort. I mean, between this committee and Mike's in the conservation committee and 138 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:23,560 the historic committee, there's people in the community coming together now and I opinion looking 139 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:29,420 more strategically along term and describing other groups like the Gail's Fairies Historical 140 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:36,880 District Committee, Group, Kat Kalo and those guys are coming on board. Different projects like 141 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,900 and the whole planning and zoning ad hoc committee. 142 00:12:40,860 --> 00:12:43,040 I think there's like a little grass roots, 143 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,160 by partisan grass roots, blue, that is kind of taking 144 00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:51,100 more interested in the town. That's how I see it, 145 00:12:51,460 --> 00:12:54,460 but it's just a positive thing, I think. 146 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:58,380 So thank you for the three committees in the University of 147 00:12:58,380 --> 00:13:03,280 Order of that. And kind of, Jenna Solgevices from Karen and 148 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:21,720 But some of this group that those joint meetings and little things like that is just like the base, that's only starts growing things. So I think, well, what I've seen before with nobody really around until this, it's seen some interest. Anyways, 149 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:33,260 you mentioned the thing with that administration of RFP not being put out, I'm trying to dig up some names. 150 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,060 and some people that are interested through my different people and their 151 00:13:38,060 --> 00:13:41,620 songs, so I'm going to start feeding, telling them, hey, this is about to hate it, 152 00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:47,820 and we're not trying to help out. People that might be interested, but I did get a chance 153 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:55,420 when I was walking with Karen up the spicer place, looking over it, and yeah, 154 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,440 it is a shame at the condition of the hate fields, because I looked at them too, 155 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,580 there's a lot in my goal of having everything brought in it. But I did see a little 156 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:11,540 stan of corn that survived over the years. If you've seen it, if you walk from the 157 00:14:11,540 --> 00:14:16,580 red barn down that back path that you guys got off to the left there's a little stan of 158 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:20,880 corn that I don't know how it got there for still standing from before. I plan it's wheat corn 159 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:27,680 left. I didn't plan it, I didn't plan it, I didn't plan it. So, there's some free corn out there, 160 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,640 maybe thinking before you don't flash out, so this record, I looked at it like, like, you know, 161 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:42,280 something that we're playing. Anyway, that's the side, not like. So I still, I won't say what 162 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:47,900 I was about to say, I'd probably would like you if you guys have, I haven't seen on your agenda, 163 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:54,100 but maybe sometimes you actually maybe talk and discuss if you're interested in changing your 164 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:59,980 or not to be able to having admin control of property at the town on, so I guess. 165 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,000 All of our commissions do. Both the conservation commission has that in their ordinance and the historical commission. Other commissions do. 166 00:15:08,980 --> 00:15:21,820 So it might be a way to benefit the town. If this committee talked about it and if you did feel like you wanted to do that, I think I personally think it would be a benefit to the town for certain properties. 167 00:15:21,820 --> 00:15:32,480 And I'm currently reviewing all the found properties with the land use, with the different chairs, to review where we put that under admin control. 168 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,140 So anyways, that's a side note maybe you guys want to talk about my day. 169 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:40,160 But this 170 00:15:44,860 --> 00:15:52,380 is not really, I had a girl who's going to pull down such as to, oh, the last thing I'd like to, I think I saw it on your agenda too. 171 00:15:52,380 --> 00:16:03,000 So I'm very interested in feedback from your commission about the initiative we started with the superintendent of the board of school, so I believe you'll be discussing that later. 172 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:10,600 So anything I can help facilitate with that at the time, and I'm here. I can help it not. 173 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:20,300 That's not it, whatever. Okay, that's it. Anything you guys need from me or something you want me to highlight that great cow's soul, from you guys. 174 00:16:21,540 --> 00:16:28,280 I'm just to be perfectly honest, I'm quite disappointed in the whole way, the Clark Farm has gone. 175 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,120 We started in October of last year to try to get that rented. 176 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:39,180 We were hoping early spring February and March of delays and it's dragging out. It's a year and nothing's not so. 177 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,940 With that in mind, I think we're going to start with discussions about the taking. 178 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:54,380 You see we're going to have control over doing some of the lease agreements with with some of the town land because there's something to drag out that wall. 179 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:59,380 Yeah, and I didn't bring that out. It's not, it's not good for the land, it's not good for 180 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:04,020 the land. I don't think it's good for the town. I didn't bring that up at the last council 181 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:13,820 and by the way, not to be so critical people, but I think the first response of some of the 182 00:17:13,820 --> 00:17:18,400 town councils, like we did our job stuff and then say, okay, but it's weren't we falling off 183 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:24,480 with that and then push it more. So anyways, I made a little complaint with a little 184 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:29,900 It should be, it should have been done, I think, within two months. 185 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,780 That would be one committee, basically, the next one done. 186 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,720 So the last thing I was saying on that is I was pressing that we've got to give this 187 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,500 three to overwinter, so people are afraid they know for, you know, 188 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:49,520 they know they got it, so they're ready to go in the springtime, you know. 189 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,980 And I do know some people that are interested, they have equipment that would take care of the 190 00:17:53,980 --> 00:18:00,700 And they would take care of the low water crossing, they would have to do that, I think they'd be more than willing to do it. 191 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:06,640 Actually, a lot of the work would do it in the winter time, like that's, you know, resolve. 192 00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:08,980 Yeah, I mean, they could start out. 193 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:14,140 I don't think these people understand that we actually can't really wait to March April. 194 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:18,580 You should be right getting this done in the winter, so they can, like, precursors at all that kind of stuff, 195 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,400 that's, I think, because now in another couple of weeks, the leaves will be off. 196 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,360 You can see the block, you can see the stuff, you can see where you're dealing, you're not just going to be grinding stones. 197 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:38,500 So I'll take the action to friends out this week, but when he gets back, he should know too. 198 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,420 Okay, I did it right now. 199 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:43,360 It's just the first reason that's what I'd like to say. 200 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,900 But anyway, we'll look for a second. 201 00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:48,400 Any questions for time? 202 00:18:48,400 --> 00:19:04,740 That means any other old business, if not with a few people, but I still like to go to other meetings and planning to go into the economic development committee meeting next. 203 00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:12,760 And I also want to meet with this verdict and one of the things I'd like to meet with them. 204 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,920 I'd like to give more feedback from everybody here on some of the ideas I have for our 205 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:25,420 PLC Dean Professors, and one of them, I think, there's a couple of ideas that seem to 206 00:19:25,420 --> 00:19:34,780 come to the forefront for me. And one is, the builder does a subdivision. They're required 207 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:41,960 to be a bunch of open space, whatever it is. I don't know how many acres per person, 208 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,660 40% point of Santa Sonka. 209 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,520 I think it's a best-born size of Santa. 210 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,040 And then what I've, it's been my experience 211 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,100 when I look at the open space, that nothing's done. 212 00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:54,660 It just grows to brush and invasives and everything else. 213 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,020 I don't know what would be the process 214 00:19:57,020 --> 00:19:59,720 what we could do or even if anybody would be interested. 215 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:30,120 And I think the billers would be interested. And I think it would open a farmland for other people. But instead of putting the 40% into just open space, have it de-restricted so that it can hold me a farm, it can't be sublimited. And then that would be an open aim for somebody to farm that land. And am it so the bill that could build a house there, too? So now you would get what extra building lot that would be quite large, but it couldn't be sublimited. And you could have somebody that could have 216 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:33,660 a farm in these areas. That's going to do a couple of things. Don't know why this is going to 217 00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:40,240 book that land on the tax rules. It's going to relieve town liability from any type of insurance 218 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:46,320 claim and it's also going to remove the town liability for keeping a clean. It can bring it up 219 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:52,240 date. That's one of the proposals that I see that might work. The other thing I would like to see 220 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:59,480 is that whatever does remain in open space, I'd like to see the town even though it's paying 221 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:05,260 the river and some of it. But some cases, I do stay where Avolone is going to, we want that. 222 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:12,280 But if we have parcels, I think we should look long and hard before we, we give away the 223 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:19,080 power land through other nonprofits, such as Avolone, which is a great, great organization. 224 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:24,580 Don't get me wrong. Well, once the town transfers, now the town has no control and 225 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:29,980 And I don't know if that's going to be good for the town under years from now to 200 years from now. 226 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,680 So that's it. This is a little bit of a legacy that's just out there for discussion. 227 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:41,840 Think on it. I just send a couple different ideas out there, but I think it's it's worthwhile. 228 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:46,060 If we take a look to see how we can increase the farmland and then measure. 229 00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:49,600 And then also keep what we have. 230 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:56,000 that's in the program. Because your need development, you're going to get development. But if you have 231 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:02,560 even if it's a rocky parcel where it buys 158 acres of nothing but goat land or something, 232 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:10,180 that would be a good goat, goat farming or something. So, there are options available for the town 233 00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:16,750 to look at. I'm going to get some done. You're going to have any questions, dude. 234 00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:18,190 I'm not serious. 235 00:22:18,670 --> 00:22:21,390 Feel free to report if you want to. 236 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:23,150 I just picked it. 237 00:22:23,230 --> 00:22:24,690 If I don't, yes, control. 238 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:26,710 And I think it would be a plus. 239 00:22:26,890 --> 00:22:29,090 Like I say, if you had that, 240 00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:31,950 so the builder could get something out of it as well. 241 00:22:32,270 --> 00:22:33,350 This is going to benefit the builder. 242 00:22:33,530 --> 00:22:34,750 It's going to benefit the town. 243 00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:36,090 It's going to benefit the workspace. 244 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:38,690 I think I've thought to the town planner. 245 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:40,430 And you just for some of that open space. 246 00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:45,230 You just had the builder built a trail around the peripherals. 247 00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:51,550 if it's affording a lot, some division or need a lot, some division with the hope that 248 00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:57,190 long range planning that eventually around this division, around that, some division they 249 00:22:57,190 --> 00:23:02,710 eventually hooked together and you end up developing your whole cowboy trail system. 250 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:06,070 I think they aren't doing that now. Yeah. I think they're doing that. 251 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:10,450 There are a couple of them that they've done, but that's a way to put them 252 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:14,910 to open space and to speak, we want to get out more. They want to own their dogs. And they 253 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:18,970 want to line out just, use front of that open space. And we, you know, they're all walking 254 00:23:18,970 --> 00:23:20,210 around, they're all going to help. 255 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,620 There's another years ago, in conservation where we looked at different properties we had, 256 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:32,200 because at the time, there was somebody who was looking to us that, but we had a cultural 257 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:38,480 wind here. And the ones that are all under the industry control of a conservation commission 258 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:47,020 raw wood, you know what I mean? So to develop it would be, could we find anybody that we're 259 00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:52,380 willing to? I can see which I bought goats. Yeah, bring them up to Whitehall. I love it, I'm up there. 260 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:59,140 You know, but I just, I don't know, it's, and of course, 261 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,850 correct me if I'm wrong. But when you have 262 00:24:03,850 --> 00:24:07,870 the subdivision and they have to give 40% of whatever they give and they call that as open space. 263 00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:10,230 Is that needed? Is all the space of the town? 264 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:13,450 In other words, it was given to the town for a whole bit of space. 265 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:17,990 So therefore, it's needed as all its space, which means they can't sell. 266 00:24:19,410 --> 00:24:24,770 Right? But if it's needed to the town, you could put a power of culture on it. 267 00:24:24,970 --> 00:24:29,230 It doesn't have to be specifically saying, oh, it's for farming only. 268 00:24:30,090 --> 00:24:33,750 You can do it if you wanted to. You so chose, because it's a town where you have to. 269 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:36,490 Yeah, I don't know if it's retroactive. I'm just starting to know. 270 00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:41,550 I don't know, but I can't get, but you know, if you could obviously try, I think you could change the right 271 00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:46,330 the likes, but I think that's it, that's the case. And like Karen said, you know, you don't have to get the whole thing, 272 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:49,970 but you could, you could make a nice portrait, so it doesn't just grow. 273 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:55,330 I mean, you could, you could see it anywhere you go, anything that's, it's just left foul. 274 00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:56,210 A little bit. 275 00:24:56,290 --> 00:24:59,270 Now you follow all the setback rules here, left to the like. 276 00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:03,180 15% in the middle of the 40, 277 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:14,820 we don't follow any of these. What's all of this face is 40%, usually like 40% of the total area of total area. So on a 100 acre pause of the 48%. 278 00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:24,600 Like if you wanted to come in and do goats on a, of its face, you have the false setback rolls. No, no, setback rolls. You can go right to the property line. 279 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Yeah, well, that was something they tried to initiate a few of some of that stuff. 280 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:31,720 I thought somewhere already. 281 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,140 They tore it up for us. 282 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:37,200 But I thought somewhere didn't, and it's the very time it's then now. 283 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,480 No, like not going to load it. 284 00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:46,320 What they, what they want to do is have the builders have to sit back from the property. 285 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:49,400 So it's the farms, they have the farm. 286 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:50,920 Oh, yeah, that's the right. 287 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600 So anyway, I think there's 288 00:25:54,420 --> 00:26:01,260 There's a couple different ways the town could increase land for small arms, just a small 289 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:01,680 arms. 290 00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:07,380 And it doesn't have to be the full 40 acres, you know, you could have maybe 10 acre parts 291 00:26:07,380 --> 00:26:12,760 or five acre parts of this for like, like a farm over a lake zone or whatever, if you 292 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:19,600 get in this area where we have farm areas, you know, maybe we can do a, you know, if you 293 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:49,580 So you have 40 acres, well, let me do, let me say four, 10 acre of arson since that now the builder's he's going to put in four extra houses he's going to make money and you're going to have four different little farms usually farmland is it usually farmland that's deep it like you're made for open space I feel like it's often like at the end of a cold a sat or whatever it's just like woods it is it's usually woods or rocks or they strip all the tombs 294 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,940 oil and leave them less, but I think this is where the town should really be taking a look 295 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:55,780 as they live in now. 296 00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:56,360 We're not doing it. 297 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,560 But I don't think, if the builder, now this is going to benefit the builder if he makes 298 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:08,420 nice building lots and has a 10 acre parcel in him and he markets it as a small farm facility. 299 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,920 He's not going to make a mess. 300 00:27:10,060 --> 00:27:11,160 He's going to have a nice glyphosal. 301 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:18,020 Even if it's for goats or pasture for horses, you don't need a rock-free ground. 302 00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:23,080 It's what I'm saying. You don't need where you can grow a core and you can, you did. I had horses 303 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,200 that used to. Yeah, they go through the woods. Yeah. And they don't nibble here there and they walk 304 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:34,980 and it's good for their house because it keeps them true. But it's, it's, it's a, but, but that's 305 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:41,260 long to think about. So if I fall in to say the ability to, right, that's where I know 306 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:49,700 people and talking about, what do we do and you know? Other things happen in the world and 307 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:55,000 you really have to know how to farm, you really know how to grow your tomatoes and whatever. It's 308 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,180 cold. It's cold. I don't know, but then the sustainability, you know, plan or whatever, 309 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:07,940 that that's a way to meet some of the sustainability. And it's just, and that's another way to keep 310 00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:14,160 the world better for a bunch of women, so that it's maybe not everybody's going to have a farm there. 311 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:20,520 You know, maybe if kids on the colonel sack have the say three houses that are set aside and 312 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,900 deep for that research and maybe one's got horses or something now there's there's something a little 313 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:33,120 different than neighborhood one like so it's going to keep electric electric motor turned into 314 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:37,860 water for anything else or and I think you have to be careful because we're right 315 00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:45,100 Well, right here, and that urbanization is creeping toward it, so I mean, look at something 316 00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,620 that might benefit us that way. 317 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:55,060 Anyway, I think I'll look at the PLCD, the suggestions that I've made come up with your 318 00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:55,820 home. 319 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,220 I'd like to discuss more, but I'd also like to, I'm going to bring some of these quick ideas 320 00:29:01,220 --> 00:29:06,360 up to the other economic development, so that they can look, see what they think. 321 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Some of them might say, you know, I'm not a good idea, or it's the only thing you know, or anyone. 322 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,360 So thought, 323 00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:17,500 excuse me. 324 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:19,580 Any other role business? Oh, yes. 325 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Board of Education and Agrescience. 326 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,420 I'm talking about the superintendent. 327 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:33,200 I think the idea of a calendar, 328 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:52,640 I think what it's going to follow, this is going to follow on a volunteer and somebody from the commission, hopefully we wanted to kind of set up a calendar that could go to the Agress Science Department. 329 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:59,960 We still have a step. This is like the first step we have. He doesn't want to put more work. 330 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:13,000 On the staff at the exercise of room. And I can understand that they have their hands full. They have enough to do. Well, I'd like I'd like to see somebody who might be. 331 00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:22,340 If you're savvy, then it's a love us. To maybe just may hear electronic bullet calendar that could go to the exercise department. 332 00:30:22,540 --> 00:30:29,980 And then the only thing you would have to do is say if somebody calls us up and says, hey, I've got an event room where I'm going to be picking great. 333 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:36,700 so harvesting grapes on this Saturday that that could be put on the calendar. That's it. Now what 334 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,620 what I would like on there and I think if a calendar I don't think would be a problem on 335 00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:47,260 our rent, we could just put up if a farmer calls you and I don't think it's going to be the following 336 00:30:47,260 --> 00:30:52,660 ringer out the hook. I think if you get one or two events of month if that you're going to be lucky 337 00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:57,020 but I think it's going to get the kids some opportunity to see things that they haven't seen before 338 00:30:57,020 --> 00:31:04,660 but what I like to see on their end is I would like to see that the students come. They have to 339 00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:12,860 bring their whole shop room. They have to be okay through the school. They're all shop room 340 00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:18,940 too. So these kids, the kids can get them where I've let them go whatever far. But there has to be 341 00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:23,520 a shop room there that's going to be responsible. I think that's going to take a little bit of 342 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,920 And this is a limiting potential problems. 343 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:29,280 You have a sharpening, they can solve those 344 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,080 and the kids, now the kids are going to have somebody 345 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,900 that's going to be watching them, not going to be up to them. 346 00:31:37,060 --> 00:31:38,920 They're not just going to be willing to want it. 347 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,680 So I think that's all right. 348 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:41,620 The question of that? 349 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,080 Kind of a reminder, I want opportunity or suggestion. 350 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,560 He gave you, he might have slipped your mind, 351 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:58,420 was he would work with an individual to create a Facebook page to get a conversation going and 352 00:31:58,420 --> 00:32:03,300 have the calendars included into that. So that that was the last suggestion he put out. 353 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:18,380 Correct. And that's it. And I think what I would voice out of it, we'd find somebody from this 354 00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:25,020 but you said he's got expertise and wouldn't get it kicked off properly with this individual. 355 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,700 Look at it. 356 00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:33,660 Could we, could we, how could we extend that a little bit because I was thinking, wouldn't the 357 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:38,460 interest in a, in certain district commission can do some things and get some kids involved 358 00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:40,120 in the saw mail or anything? 359 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,940 I don't think it's going to be just all three of them. 360 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:44,780 I tell them to do that. 361 00:32:44,780 --> 00:32:45,720 I tell them to do that. 362 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,540 So all sorts of things, the kids, they wanted to get involved, and they have, they're still 363 00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:50,740 not down there and chop her own. 364 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,700 Well, I think that doesn't come to walk on the trail or, you know, the slicer. 365 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Who wants to know about everything. 366 00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:58,380 Or three commands. 367 00:33:00,380 --> 00:33:06,140 And I think that would work out good because it's going to get the kids exposure. 368 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,240 The things they may not have seen, no. 369 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,360 That's actually considered a thing. 370 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:20,680 You guys authorize it. I will dig up a person that would help create this to be a jeweling face for 371 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,380 Opportunized age 372 00:33:24,380 --> 00:33:26,600 Make it draft and show you 373 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,780 What it looks like before launching and you know, Jayce can be involved. Of course 374 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,960 So I can have a brand of your committee or make it make something for you. That's you know, because 375 00:33:39,860 --> 00:33:44,700 I think it's a thing to ship through the opportunity to build up all this winter, I mean I need to 376 00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,760 launch it and spring. Yeah, or at any time really, I think, I think, once it's, once the 377 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,040 calendar is there, it's a different thing to do. As I think the vision is even more, it's like, 378 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,760 it's you three guys starting this community conversation on a Facebook, name your title 379 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,920 to your committees and all the opportunities and the right he was suggesting to you guys, 380 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:11,740 kids love Facebook or other latest social media, they can be talking about it and they've had 381 00:34:11,740 --> 00:34:16,780 a year of place and a great time and my mom and five of my friends went up to see the 382 00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:22,220 donkey blah blah blah, I went on a, I volunteered and did a thing that on your, you know, on your 383 00:34:22,220 --> 00:34:28,940 opportunity day and it just builds an entity, like I said, I can day someone to get a kickstart 384 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:36,720 off. Okay. And then, but eventually, you'd probably want to monitor that with your committees 385 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:42,940 that will be assigned to be the monitor like who decides to put the opportunity up in 386 00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:46,300 or in the night. I think that's what I'm looking for as a volunteer to do 387 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:53,520 from our committee to kind of work with that. So if somebody thinks it might be an interesting 388 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,540 I mean, I think there was a number of the... 389 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,020 student in the school as a project or whatever to take on getting the word out and coordinating do, and whatever 390 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:13,000 it's not faithful to kids to Facebook. They do Instagram or TikTok or what it's going to be. They 391 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:20,720 have you had someone at the school, a junior senior that took it on as a project, as a social media 392 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:26,600 person for with them in school system. But I try to think about it for a hint. 393 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,700 And that's a great idea. I think that would come from the aggregates science, not from us. Yeah. 394 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:33,600 That's the only thing. 395 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:45,240 Why I didn't wish that the way I'm looking at it is that we would present opportunities that would be there listed on a calendar and would be up to the students to come. 396 00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:46,020 Yep. 397 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:48,060 Good idea. 398 00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:51,120 Generates ofology is of the future. 399 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:52,380 Yep. 400 00:35:55,460 --> 00:36:06,160 So, so if you got to give me permission, I'll dig up, but personally help worked with Jay to get a launch under after you get a launch after you're reviewing, you know, okay. 401 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:13,560 But care was getting that, I think Jay is already discussing. They got to get some more now and and a student government is growing. 402 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,620 You'll figure out that side. 403 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,980 You guys just have to figure out the joint coordinator 404 00:36:18,980 --> 00:36:21,300 or one coordinator for each one 405 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,780 that puts those opportunities out. 406 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:25,080 Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. 407 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,960 A volunteer, it was gonna do that. 408 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,360 So what do you think? 409 00:36:30,580 --> 00:36:31,500 I don't really love that. 410 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:32,540 So I'm gonna tell you a while, 411 00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:33,920 I get the thing, a lot of things, 412 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,620 but in the meantime, you three can chairs 413 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:39,220 and come up with one or two pizza that 414 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:40,980 will be put on the project. 415 00:36:42,260 --> 00:36:44,860 So we can feed those up in these, 416 00:36:47,740 --> 00:36:50,020 and that's what I have with them, something you did. 417 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,060 I mean, I think that's a great idea, I think. 418 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:01,340 I'm safe. 419 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,960 I don't think we can all just do that. 420 00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:06,140 Yeah. 421 00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:06,920 You would be last. 422 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:08,400 Yeah. 423 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,000 I know. 424 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,180 I know. 425 00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:11,940 You just got on Facebook. 426 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,240 It's like last month. 427 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:19,120 Well, Roscoe did I still say he's doing it and this young man couldn't be the author of it. 428 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:19,980 It does all the way. 429 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,420 Anyway, he's going to do it. 430 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:23,200 They did a little scout project. 431 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560 Or it's going to be something I don't get on. 432 00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:33,630 But if you get the person that kind of lines this all up, we could take a look at it. 433 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:35,610 And then it doesn't. 434 00:37:35,730 --> 00:37:38,330 And it could be like one volunteer from any one of the groups. 435 00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:39,190 That's what I'm saying. 436 00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:45,090 So I was looking when I kind of, you know, anybody that that's good at it. 437 00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:50,830 do that right in the deep part with. See what can be said. 438 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,120 Okay, 439 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,540 but we 440 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,760 already discussed the VLCD, 441 00:38:02,090 --> 00:38:03,210 any other old business, 442 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:08,380 but hearing none, any new 443 00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:08,880 business. 444 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:17,560 If we look at that, I think we're going to do a set here, let's just add 445 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,560 During that, I make a motion to a journal meeting as I do. 446 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,480 Please a discussion. 447 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:27,700 During that little favor. 448 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,160 I act. 449 00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:34,900 And even now I'll call this meeting to a close and it is 638.