1 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:05,279 everyone. Uh, if I could have your 2 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:06,720 attention. Thank you'all very much for 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,080 the um May 20th, 2026 meeting of the 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Conservation 2020 Land Acquisition and 5 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:16,160 Stewardship Advisory Council, excuse me, 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,560 Advisory Committee. Uh, we have a quorum 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,560 and I'd like to call to order. And first 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,920 order of business, a pledge of 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,680 allegiance. If you join, stand and join 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,080 me. 11 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:29,279 I aliance to the flag of the United 12 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,920 States of America and to the republic 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,880 for which it stands. One nation under 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,760 God, indivisible, with liberty and 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,280 justice for all. 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,360 >> Thank you very much. Please call the 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,239 role and we'll 18 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:49,680 move on after that. Thank you. 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,320 >> Renee Manita for the record. Karen 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,600 Andress 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,920 >> present. Carl Barco 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,280 >> here. 23 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,239 >> Joseph Cruz 24 00:00:58,239 --> 00:00:59,359 >> here. 25 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:00,559 >> Ron in 26 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:01,440 >> present. 27 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,559 >> Christy Knight 28 00:01:02,559 --> 00:01:03,199 >> here. 29 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:04,640 >> Matthew Lincolnhal 30 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,119 >> here. 31 00:01:05,119 --> 00:01:06,000 >> Fred Bonson 32 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,960 >> here. 33 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:07,680 >> John Paul 34 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,640 >> here. 35 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,520 >> Chris Robin 36 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,159 >> here. 37 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:11,119 >> Nathan Shaw 38 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:11,840 >> present. 39 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,720 >> Shane Spring 40 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,119 >> here. 41 00:01:13,119 --> 00:01:14,000 >> Andrew Sund 42 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,640 >> is present. 43 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,600 >> Gary Tasman 44 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,320 >> here. 45 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:19,360 >> Bridget Thorough is absent. And Savannah 46 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,479 White, did she slip in? She's absent. 47 00:01:22,479 --> 00:01:24,000 That's a quorum. 48 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,680 Thank you very much. Thanks everyone for 49 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 coming. Uh, previously Renee circulated 50 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,520 the minutes of our April 15th meeting. 51 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,360 I'd like to see if anyone has any 52 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,119 comments on their assume you've had a 53 00:01:35,119 --> 00:01:37,439 chance to read them. Any comments? And 54 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:38,799 if not, we'll entertain a motion for 55 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:40,960 approval of the minutes. 56 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:42,720 >> Ch. I'll make a motion to approve. 57 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,360 >> Thank you. 58 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,159 >> Second. 59 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:45,840 by Miss Andress. We have a 60 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,920 motion, a second. Any discussion? Any 61 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,200 opposition? That carries. Uh we have 62 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,840 several uh staff negotiated purchase 63 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,240 agreements tonight. Four in particular. 64 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,799 Uh a couple of things of interest or of 65 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:01,439 note relative to these. We have to vote 66 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:04,399 on each of them separately and staff has 67 00:02:04,399 --> 00:02:06,240 to record our vote. Even if it's a 68 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,600 unanimous vote, we'll still need to 69 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,759 signify by raising our hands so there's 70 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,120 some acknowledgement that that is our 71 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,440 vote so that the record will record it. 72 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,680 uh if you would please hold off any 73 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,080 motions until after we've taken public 74 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,920 input because members of the public may 75 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,080 wish to comment on uh any particular 76 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,280 one. So that's kind of the way we'll proceed on each one of them. We'll 77 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,599 take them individually uh have a 78 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:30,000 presentation by staff, ask questions, 79 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,360 open it to the public, and then take 80 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,519 whatever action that the committee deems 81 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:36,560 appropriate. Everybody okay with that? 82 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,280 All righty, Mr. Clemens. First one is 83 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,760 nomination 143-2 84 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Orange River Preserve Infill 3.2 acres 85 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,760 with a score of 61. Please proceed, sir. 86 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,959 >> All right. This parcel is about a 3 acre 87 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:54,000 tract of land. We've got it under 88 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,840 contract for $495,000. 89 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,319 The county will pay for the title 90 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:04,239 commitment, closing fees, survey, phase 91 00:03:04,239 --> 00:03:08,400 one and phase two. The situation with 92 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,239 this is a little more complicated 93 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:12,560 acquisition. The property's going 94 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,760 through foreclosure and bankruptcy. 95 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,440 So, um, 96 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,959 >> are there any other problems? 97 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:24,720 >> So, um, staff staff recommends to 98 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,319 proceed with it. As you can see, this is 99 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:32,480 an infill parcel that has uh really 100 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,040 bifurcates our property and acquiring 101 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,360 this will make that one complete system. 102 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,000 >> Mr. Clemens, I think this is in tier one 103 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,440 of our acquisition schedule. 104 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,400 >> That is correct. 105 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,319 >> Thank you, sir. 106 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:48,080 >> All right. You've had a brief 107 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,480 presentation. It's an infill item of 108 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,879 nomination 143-2. Does anyone on the 109 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:54,879 committee have any questions of staff or 110 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:57,120 comments? If so, Mr. Spring, 111 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 >> do we know how much they owe on the 112 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,280 property for closure 113 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,239 >> over the 500,000? 114 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:06,400 We also owe somewhere in the 115 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,920 neighborhood of approaching 200,000 in 116 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,519 fines on this that we can get forgiven 117 00:04:13,519 --> 00:04:18,629 under the county ownership. 118 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:22,160 So, it resolves a lot of issues. 119 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,759 There were some code violations 120 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:25,600 associated with this property in its 121 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,880 past use. 122 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,680 >> Is it a local bank or is it a national 123 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,639 bank? 124 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:33,199 >> Excuse me. 125 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:34,720 >> The local bank or national bank that has 126 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,840 a foreclosure? 127 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:36,880 >> I'm sorry. 128 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,560 >> Local bank or national bank that has a 129 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,440 foreclosure? 130 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,950 >> I that I'm not sure. 131 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,160 » Clemens question. If there's that 132 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,840 outstanding debt that you mentioned, and 133 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:50,880 I don't know if I heard correctly, 134 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,040 500,000 plus another two plus some other 135 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,479 items, our purchase price is less than 136 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:58,960 what would satisfy all those. I would 137 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,520 presume that those are claims that are 138 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,520 prior to our involvement, meaning the 139 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,560 county. How do we solve it without 140 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,520 picking that up? 141 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,520 >> The ownership is under a bankruptcy 142 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,880 trustee. So, the trustees and of the 143 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,600 court had to approve the settlement. 144 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,759 >> Thank you. Any 145 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:21,039 other questions on 143-2? 146 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:22,560 >> Quick question, Mr. Broco. 147 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,320 >> Um, on the scoring, and this happened on 148 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,600 several of them, some of the numbers are 149 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,360 in red. What's the difference between a 150 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,479 red? 151 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:30,960 >> We we put the red numbers. If the 152 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,080 scoring, if you look at it by itself, it 153 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,960 would score the 61 points. If you look 154 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,280 at it as part of the overall system 155 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,680 attached to that whole preserve, it 156 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,360 would score an additional four points 157 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,590 because it's part of a larger system. 158 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Okay, 159 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,840 >> we had talked about that at previous 160 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:51,759 meetings and you know to keep things 161 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:53,759 simple, we said we would give the score 162 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:55,520 to give you all an idea as to what that 163 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,039 differential would look like. 164 00:05:57,039 --> 00:05:58,880 >> So, but this how many acres? 165 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,560 >> About three three and a half 166 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,160 >> and you gave it two because it would 167 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,120 have gotten zero without that. 168 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,600 >> Correct. 169 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,160 >> Okay. Thanks. 170 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,160 everyone hear that discussion. The the 171 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,960 red marks are to consider the adjacency 172 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,319 factor that we've talked about in the 173 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,080 past. 174 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,479 Any other questions, comments? Seeing 175 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:21,919 none, we'll go to the public. I don't 176 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:24,400 have any cards on item 58. Would anyone 177 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,919 in the public like to speak on 178 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:28,800 nomination 143, Orange River Preserve? 179 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,440 If so, please come forward. 180 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,800 Seeing none, we'll close the public 181 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,039 input. What is the uh pleasure of the 182 00:06:35,039 --> 00:06:36,639 committee or any other thoughts or 183 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:42,790 questions on nomination 143-2? 184 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,039 Uh, 185 00:06:43,039 --> 00:06:44,800 >> Mr. Cruz moved that we proceed with 186 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,080 acquisition. Do we have a second? 187 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,479 >> I'll second it. Shane Spring. 188 00:06:48,479 --> 00:06:51,039 >> We have a motion to second. Discussion. 189 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:54,080 All in favor, please raise your hand. 190 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,479 And that's unanimous. Does anyone oppose 191 00:06:56,479 --> 00:06:59,360 it? If so, raise your hand. None. Renee. 192 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,840 That's unanimous. 193 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,560 Next is nomination 656. in addition to 194 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,639 the Buttonwood Preserve with a score of 195 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:10,319 4750 if you consider adjacency issues. 196 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,880 Mr. Cuz 197 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Clemens, please provide us some update 198 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,880 on that as well. 199 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,919 >> The and this is in uh tier one also, 200 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:20,560 correct? 201 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,880 >> Yes. Thank you. Tier one, this parcel is 202 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,000 about a 28 acre track of land. It fronts 203 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,919 on Stringfellow. It's adjacent to um 204 00:07:33,919 --> 00:07:36,479 systems in this area and and part of the 205 00:07:36,479 --> 00:07:39,440 Buttonwood preserve separation by the 206 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,639 road. The um appraised values came in at 207 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:48,639 1.4 million and 1.54 million. The 208 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:53,749 purchase price is 1,395,000. 209 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,240 The county pays for phase one audit, 210 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,759 title policy, and survey. 211 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:02,560 This parcel is also 212 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,039 contingent upon a simultaneous closing 213 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:09,919 of the parcel that you see up there as 214 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:11,599 657. 215 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:14,639 Uh they have common ownerships and in 216 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:17,599 both of these but uh when we were when 217 00:08:17,599 --> 00:08:19,280 this was presented that was one of the 218 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,599 conditions for this to go forward for 219 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:24,720 acquisition. So staff is recommending to 220 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,520 go forward with this contract. 221 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,400 >> Mr. Spring, 222 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:37,029 >> what is the 223 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:40,240 » If you've seen those large plastic 224 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,320 water containers, it looks like there 225 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,519 was a shrimp farm to the north or a fish 226 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,080 farm to the north and during the 227 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,320 hurricanes, it looks like that container 228 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,880 floated onto the property. So, we had 229 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,279 staff go out, get an estimate as to what 230 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:57,600 they thought it think it will cost to 231 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,200 remove it, and that 5,000 number is what 232 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,560 we were given. The property owners are 233 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,120 elderly. They're scattered 234 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,839 throughout the country. Um, they really 235 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:12,640 don't have the whereforall to 236 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,360 handle this. So, um, that's why we're 237 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,920 recommending a reduction in price and, 238 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,920 uh, taking care of this ourselves. Any 239 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,720 further questions, 240 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,509 >> Robin? 241 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:34,800 » It's going to be about $50,000. Just a 242 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:43,910 fraction under 50,000 per acre. 243 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:53,350 » South reason 244 00:09:53,360 --> 00:10:01,110 Correct. 245 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,399 » What 246 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:19,430 >> I understand,000. 247 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Well, if you're looking at 50 acres, 248 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,720 what's that? $500,000 difference. 249 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,040 >> Right. But that one went to tier two. 250 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,509 So, 251 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:35,680 » any other comments or questions of 252 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:37,680 staff? 253 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,920 >> If the phase one audit doesn't come back 254 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,160 clean, who's responsible for radiation? 255 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,800 >> We either they pay it or we can 256 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:58,470 terminate the contract. Okay. 257 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,120 I would just like to say this has been a 258 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:22,069 long 259 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:24,880 Any other comments or questions? 260 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,399 >> All right, we'll go to public input. I 261 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:28,640 have one card from Robert Ballard on 262 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,320 this particular item. Please, please 263 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,079 come forward and state your name for the 264 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:39,350 record. And you have three minutes, sir. 265 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,440 » Yes. I'm Robert Ballard with Klua Land 266 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,959 Trust, also a native Pine Islander. Uh, 267 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:46,320 I've been working on this property for 268 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,880 nine years to try to get it preserved. 269 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,279 If you're ever out on Pine Island, as a 270 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:53,519 native Pine Islander, it is probably the 271 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:55,680 most purest piece of property left on 272 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:58,240 Pine Island without a lot of invasive 273 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,959 plants and stuff on it. So, I encourage 274 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:04,079 you to go forward with this nomination 275 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:06,720 uh because it's really critical to my 276 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,800 community to save it and save this big 277 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,760 piece of pristine Pine Island as it is, 278 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,480 pines and palmettos. So, I appreciate if 279 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,240 you go forward with that. 280 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,680 >> Thank you very much. 281 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:19,600 >> Uh, would anyone else in the audience 282 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,399 care to speak on item 5B, nomination 283 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:25,120 656? If so, please come forward. 284 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,959 >> Uh, could I just make one more comment? 285 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:29,440 Uh, Renee just reminded me the Tus Land 286 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Trust, we're so invested in this that we 287 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,800 offered $80,000 towards the maintenance 288 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,639 and improvements to this property if 289 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:39,600 it's purchased. So that is uh the 290 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,360 conclusive interest is committed to 291 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,720 making $80,000 towards the uh parks and 292 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,839 recreation from improving it. 293 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:48,800 >> That's great. Thank you for that 294 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,079 additional information. That's that's 295 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:54,000 very great great info. Thank you sir. 296 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,320 Seeing no other public input uh 297 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,560 nomination 656 which is addition to the 298 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,040 Buttonwood Preserve 28 acres roughly 299 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,120 with a score of 47. What is the 300 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,279 committee's pleasure? 301 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:06,959 to move forward for acquisition. 302 00:13:06,959 --> 00:13:08,240 >> We have a motion to move forward for 303 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,600 acquisition by Mr. Spring, second by 304 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Miss Anderson, and Mr. Cruz. At the same 305 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,360 time, almost. 306 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,720 We have a motion, a second to move 307 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,160 forward with acquisition. Do we have any 308 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,240 further discussion? 309 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,480 All in favor, please raise your hand. 310 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,320 All opposed, please do the same. Raise 311 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,399 your hand. Seeing none, that's unanimous 312 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:29,279 approval. Thank you very much, everyone. 313 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:31,360 The next item, which as Mr. Clemens 314 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,800 mentioned is somewhat tied to the 315 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,519 previous one and it's a contingent type 316 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:38,639 arrangement is parcel number 657 which 317 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:40,160 is also in addition to the Buttonwood 318 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,839 preserve 28.13 acres with a score of 47. 319 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:45,040 Mr. Clemens, can you give us some 320 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,720 background on this one as well? 321 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,519 >> Yes, this parcel is contiguous to the 322 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:54,240 one we just spoke about. it has um 323 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,199 60% of the ownership on the first one 324 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:03,120 um is common in this site here. So, 325 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,519 three people own the subject site we're 326 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,120 speaking about that own 60% of the one 327 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,040 that is contiguous to them with the road 328 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,440 frontage. And I bring that up because 329 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,920 when we initially appraised this, we 330 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,320 appraised it as if it had no legal 331 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,079 access. 332 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:24,399 that came in at around $150,000. 333 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:26,880 In the negotiations, they property 334 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,040 owners pointed out their assessed value 335 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,230 is around $285,000 336 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,959 and they could go through the process 337 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:40,320 and just assemble the whole parcel as 338 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,720 one tract of land, which would cause us 339 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 to have to go back, reappraise it, and 340 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,240 go through, you know, a full analysis 341 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,880 again. So instead of doing that, we had 342 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,519 our staff do an in-house value 343 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:56,560 adjustment, assuming that it had legal 344 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,120 access. And in doing that is where we 345 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,399 came up with an appraised value of about 346 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:04,160 200,000. 347 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,240 That's based on the upland area only. 348 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,120 That's about 8 acres at 40,000 an acre. 349 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,320 That would be 320 by itself. And if if 350 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,720 you were to assemble it to the as a 351 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,839 larger piece at 50,000 an acre, that 352 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:25,040 puts us at over 400,000. So we feel that 353 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,480 making the internal market adjustment is 354 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,399 reasonable and easy to explain and 355 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,959 probably in the long run less costly 356 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:37,440 than than uh going back through the 357 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,880 whole process again. So, we're 358 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,160 recommending the purchase at the um 359 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,150 uh $285,000 360 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,880 that being the county pays for the title 361 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,399 policy 362 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,320 survey and phase one audit and it's it 363 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,759 also is uh contingent upon the 364 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,800 simultaneous closing of the adjacent 365 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 parcel. 366 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,079 >> Thank you. questions of Mr. Clemens. Mr. 367 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:15,350 >> Tasman,000 368 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,199 at least the land trust is pledging. Is 369 00:16:17,199 --> 00:16:20,079 that 80,000 per 370 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:23,199 um per parcel or total for the both 371 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:30,069 part? 372 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:31,920 » Well, if Mr. Ballard speaks, maybe we 373 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:38,949 can convince him to double it. 374 00:16:38,959 --> 00:16:42,790 Just kidding, sir. 375 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,880 » All right. Anyone have any other 376 00:16:44,880 --> 00:17:09,829 comments or questions? Karen. 377 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:11,760 » Okay, good. I'll hold any motion till we 378 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,160 hear from the public. But thank you. 379 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Anyone have any other thoughts? 380 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,949 >> Mr. Robin, 381 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:26,230 » it is 382 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,760 interest 383 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,320 >> in in the past. I think they've been 384 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,559 solicited. 385 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:32,960 I 386 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:38,230 >> uh 387 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,600 » and that's certainly something we can 388 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,080 consider once we close on this. 389 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,919 There's a parcel north of here that has 390 00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:49,039 come in for review. That'll be 391 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:52,559 >> Mr. Clemens, if I may, the 392 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:54,559 Charlotte Harbor State Lands is 393 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:56,640 highlighted in a light green and then 394 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,039 you have this parcel. What about the 395 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,440 parcels below it that are just normal 396 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,120 color? Is that stateowned too or who 397 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:03,600 owns? 398 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,320 >> Those are those are privately owned. 399 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,160 >> Okay. And if you that southerntherly 400 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,280 portion, if you look where the uh green 401 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,799 hashmark area is and look north of that, 402 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:18,640 that's a couple of hundred acres. And I 403 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,640 just spoke to that property owner 404 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,720 probably six months ago and asked her if 405 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,840 she wanted to nominate it. Uh she said 406 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,880 no, that was gifted to her. I don't know 407 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 if it was her husband or father gifted 408 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,160 it to her and it was important to her. 409 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,919 Fair enough. 410 00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:42,950 >> Thank you. 411 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,880 » Any other comments of or questions of 412 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,640 staff before we open up for public 413 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,120 input? Seeing none, 414 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,200 >> I just have a comment and I don't want 415 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,720 to look at it on this one, but in the 416 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,559 future when we look at projects like 417 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:58,320 this, when you evaluate the the value of 418 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,480 the property, I I hope you look at the 419 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,720 developable possibilities. For instance, 420 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,520 if this is subject to compensating 421 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,120 storage and it can't be developed, then 422 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,440 the value I would assume is much less 423 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,720 than if it could be. So 424 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,200 >> we address it for those factors. 425 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,559 >> If there is you can build on this 426 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:18,640 >> the stuff that's fronting. 427 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,360 >> Yes. 428 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:22,880 >> What elevation is the land? You know, 429 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,039 >> I did check it, but I'm thinking it's 430 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:28,880 five or sixish, but I I 431 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,080 >> That's what I'm saying. If the land is 432 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,640 at elevation five and 100year storm is 433 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,679 at elevation 10, you can't build on that 434 00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:37,360 land. And and I don't want to bring it 435 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,039 up on this one, but in the future, I 436 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:40,880 hope we look at those things. 437 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,799 >> Well, similar properties out here are 438 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,400 selling and I'm seeing them developed. I 439 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,400 just drove out there today. 440 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,919 >> I'm just asking that we look at that in 441 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:50,080 the future because I I think that's a 442 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,679 significant thing, not only today, but 443 00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:57,990 as as we continue. 444 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,679 » Thank you. All 445 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:01,440 right, we'll go to public input. Mr. 446 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Ballard, please come forward, sir. 447 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,559 >> Please again state your name for the 448 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:10,470 record and you have three minutes. 449 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,240 » Yes, Robert Ballard includes the land 450 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,640 trust. Again, I've walked these 451 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,960 properties three times now and this 452 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,880 piece we're looking at right now, the 453 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,039 uplands are matching what we just 454 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:24,160 approved to go forward with. The other 455 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,760 part is mangroves which is very critical 456 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,559 to the whole ecology of of Pine Island 457 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:34,400 itself. U the upland part there's an 458 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,480 eagle's nest that I found on my one of 459 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,880 my trips through there and Ottoman 460 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,640 didn't know about it and now they know 461 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,000 about it and they're watching it and 462 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,559 they had eagles again this year on it. 463 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:46,720 Uh it's almost on the border of the 464 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,520 piece you just approved there. Um but 465 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,720 it's uh it's contingent the other piece 466 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,480 and and to me it's important to keep it 467 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,880 all together if you can. Uh you're 468 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,640 looking at the piece coming up probably 469 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,679 nomination in a next meeting or so just 470 00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:04,000 north of that which is part palm farm 471 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,280 and part mangroves and stuff. Uh and 472 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,280 south of it what you see in the in the 473 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,520 gray area is mangroves. So it's not 474 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,400 really development property. uh and 475 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,480 maybe someday the owner would come up 476 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,159 with a reasonable price to donate that 477 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:23,840 but but I I suggest go forward with it. 478 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,320 My opinion. 479 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,440 >> Thank you very much sir. 480 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,200 >> Would anyone else in the public care to 481 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,039 speak on nomination 657 28.13 acre 482 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:36,720 additions of Button Court preserve. If 483 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,039 so, please come forward. 484 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:40,320 Seeing none, we'll close the public 485 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,480 input. What is the committee's pleasure 486 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,870 with respect to nomination 657? 487 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,880 » We have a motion by Miss Sanders, second 488 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,720 by Mr. Cruz to pursue purchase of uh 489 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,320 move forward to recommend purchase of 490 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,280 this parcel pursuant to the negotiations 491 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760 that the staff has accomplished. There 492 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,760 we go. We have a motion and a second. 493 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Any further discussion? All in favor, 494 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,080 please raise your hand. 495 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,760 Anyone opposed, please raise your hand 496 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080 as well. Seeing none, that's a unanimous 497 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,880 approval as were the other two. Thank 498 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,070 you. 499 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,679 » Oh, yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. I should have 500 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:23,200 mentioned that it is tier one. 501 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,000 All righty. Uh item 5D is nomination 665 502 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Pine Islands Pine Island Flatwoods 503 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,039 infill a 10acre parcel with a score of 504 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,440 23. Mr. Clemens, please give us some 505 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,440 background on this parcel, sir. 506 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,200 >> Yeah, this is somewhat of an infill 507 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,080 parcel. is within the um 508 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Pine Island. 509 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,559 Gosh, I can't I can't What's that? 510 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,559 Buttonwood. 511 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:51,919 >> Pinewood. Flatwood. 512 00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:54,159 >> I was going to give him a glass of some 513 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:55,840 kind of wood. 514 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,240 >> It's one of our preserves and it infills 515 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,799 and it's got access to the uh you see 516 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,200 that hash mark that runs through the 517 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,159 preserve. That's an access for the 518 00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:09,840 private ownerships in there. And this 519 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,200 area has been a troubled area for us 520 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,200 from a maintenance standpoint because of 521 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,039 those access points. Um in fighting with 522 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:21,520 neighbors, uh property owners fighting 523 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,400 with the county, they had some other 524 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,559 access potential um points within the 525 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:30,960 preserve. So we've consolidated it to 526 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,320 that hashmark area. So, buying this 527 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 property, as you can see, that takes 528 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960 another private ownership out of play 529 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,320 and impact off of our maintenance staff. 530 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,120 The uh appraised value for this parcel 531 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,919 was $430,000 532 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:51,360 and 400,000. The purchase price is for 533 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,440 $400,000. 534 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520 The county pays for the environmental 535 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,200 phase one audit and survey. Other costs 536 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,799 are paid by the seller. uh staff 537 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:06,880 recommends buying this parcel for the 538 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,200 previous mentioned uh reasons 539 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,520 and is it is also a tier one part. 540 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,120 >> It's tier one also correct. 541 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,279 >> Thank you sir. Any questions of Mr. 542 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:25,510 Clemens relative to nomination 665 543 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,679 question on the um contamination I 544 00:24:27,679 --> 00:24:29,919 assume the same answer. That's correct. 545 00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:31,600 And that's pretty standard in all of our 546 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,279 contracts. We always have the right to 547 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:36,720 bail out fest county contracts period 548 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,600 for district. 549 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,840 >> Obvious reasons. Help me make sure I'm 550 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,400 for everyone the map I'm reading 551 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,799 correctly. The green hash comes down 552 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:48,799 goes east, west, north, south, east, 553 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,000 west, and then there's a yellow hash. 554 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,919 Does that provide access to this 555 00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:55,360 particular parcel so that you can 556 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,000 maintain it? 557 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,760 >> Correct. That was one of the 558 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,520 contingencies in this even being 559 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,480 nominated. 560 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,760 >> I just want to differentiate between the 561 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,600 two colors because the the legend says 562 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,919 yellow is easements. Wasn't sure about 563 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:07,440 the other, but it looks that color 564 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,640 because it overlays the green. 565 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,960 >> Yeah, the yellow are private easements. 566 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,799 The green hashed are 567 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:17,200 easements on county property to those 568 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,360 private 569 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,960 tracks of land in there. 570 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,080 >> Thank you. Any questions of Mr. Clemens 571 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,679 or staff on nomination 665. 572 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:31,440 Seeing none, would anyone in the public 573 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,159 care to speak on nomination 665, Pine 574 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,400 Islands, Pine Island Flatwoods in 575 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,480 Philip, 10acres? If so, please come 576 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,200 forward at this time. 577 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,480 Seeing none, we'll close the public 578 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,000 input. What is the committee's pleasure 579 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,470 with respect to nomination 665? 580 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,799 » Motion by Mr. Spring, second by Miss 581 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,159 Andress. Any discussion? 582 00:25:56,159 --> 00:25:59,279 All in favor, please raise your hand. 583 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,440 Any opposed, please raise your hand as 584 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,120 well. Seeing none, that's unanimous 585 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,480 approval. Thanks everyone very much. Um, 586 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,559 we will move on to acquisition reviews 587 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,159 or possible acquisition reviews. We have 588 00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:12,640 two parcels for consideration. The first 589 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,830 is nomination 655-2 590 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,919 and it's a Charlotte Harbor buffer 591 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:21,919 preserve infill of 2 acres with a score 592 00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:25,360 of 39. uh near your capens. Mr. Clemens, 593 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,200 please uh give us some input on this, 594 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,640 sir. 595 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,120 >> This property is about two acres. It's 596 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,559 improved with a house and some incillary 597 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:36,240 structures. 598 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Uh the property owner previously 599 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,679 nominated this. We were unable to come 600 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:43,520 to terms. 601 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,600 The um and the reason was price. Uh that 602 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,919 was about 18 months ago or so. 603 00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:57,360 They have pursued a way of access over 604 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,440 county property. They do not have legal 605 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,200 access at this time. Uh the way that 606 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Florida law is written, it is nearly 607 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,679 impossible to exclude access from a 608 00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:14,960 property owner to a public access point. 609 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,240 So they're looking to go down and across 610 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,799 our property. If you you see the yellow 611 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:24,240 line, but then you see a faint dirt road 612 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,960 that runs through there. That's the path 613 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,120 that they've been using to get to this 614 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:34,080 property. And that path has existed 615 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,720 probably since about the 50s or 60s. 616 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,120 and um the 617 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,600 they have renominated this but they've 618 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:51,279 also pursued that way of access and 619 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,880 they brought it back and said that if if 620 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,679 we could get to their price which is 621 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:00,159 somewhere around 622 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:02,799 6 to 800,000 623 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:04,559 they would rather sell it than to 624 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,640 continue going through that process and 625 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,679 I 626 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:10,799 staff would recommend 627 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,039 removing a neighbor within our preserve 628 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:16,399 as well because we don't have control of 629 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,559 what happens in there when you have a 630 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,679 private ownership. Um, if you look, you 631 00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:24,320 can see a lot of scarring in this area. 632 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,640 It is uh 633 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,120 people come out in their ATVs and such. 634 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,720 I I know fish and wildlife 635 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,200 um monitor this area, county staff 636 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,360 monitors this area, but you can't be out 637 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:42,559 there 247 and and uh so that's kind of 638 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,399 the reasoning. Staff recommends buying 639 00:28:46,399 --> 00:28:49,919 it for the purpose of the management 640 00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:54,240 aspect of this. Um, but if we don't go 641 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,080 forward with it, then we'll we'll be 642 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,679 working with them to perfect their legal 643 00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:02,640 access. So, that's kind of where we are 644 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,520 on this one. 645 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,200 >> So, our our function is to make a 646 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,320 recommendation on whether you should 647 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,880 pursue acquisition, not acquire at this 648 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,080 time because we haven't gotten that far 649 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,080 along. Correct. 650 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,919 >> Correct. That would be to put it in the 651 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,399 process. And if you do recommend going 652 00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:19,200 forward with acquisition, I would 653 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,600 recommend to put it into tier one 654 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600 because if not, they're going to come 655 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,279 after the way of access. And I suspect 656 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,279 at that point, they'll want even more 657 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,200 money afterwards because now when you 658 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,600 have a perfected legal access, it's 659 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:42,470 going to be easier to market. 660 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:51,510 » It's a dirt. It's a dirt road. 661 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,990 » They could. 662 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,240 » Some of the concerns we have and I we 663 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,279 have um you know park staff here, but 664 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:04,720 when you're in an area like this, it's 665 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,120 pretty flat. You can see it drains to 666 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,720 the canal system there. just a slight 667 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,559 elevation 668 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,960 and grade change 669 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,399 changes the water flow patterns and you 670 00:30:18,399 --> 00:30:20,640 know from there you run into other 671 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,760 issues and you know I certainly defer to 672 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,279 the experts if y'all want more 673 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:32,630 information on that but 674 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,279 » it it does almost totally bifurcate our 675 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:38,000 property 676 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,840 >> just out of curiosity how Did they ever 677 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,440 acquire that to begin with with no 678 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,640 access? 679 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,039 >> Well, it went through foreclosure and we 680 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,960 picked it up for about $90,000. 681 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,799 But when you go through I take that 682 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,200 back. It was a tax deed sale. So when it 683 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,600 goes through a taxdeed sale, you inherit 684 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240 the uh 685 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,269 nuisances that are remaining 686 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,679 spring. So, we're going to go after 687 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:07,279 this. We go after the other house that's 688 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:09,120 there, too. 689 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,919 >> I'm sorry. 690 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:11,279 >> We go after the other house that's 691 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:12,799 there, too, as well. See if they're a 692 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:14,000 willing seller as well. If we're going 693 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,200 to go after one, go after both. 694 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,600 >> I I I those folks have been out there 695 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,559 from what I've been told over 20 years 696 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,679 and they're tenants. And uh we we have 697 00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:25,919 solicited all the property owners in 698 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:28,640 here to nominate their properties to us. 699 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,159 If you if you see the property, if you 700 00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:31,840 follow that yellow line, 701 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,799 >> you see that at the very end of that 702 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,799 yellow line 703 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,440 right there, that was that was one we 704 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,600 closed on probably a year ago when we 705 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,440 solicited all these people to see if 706 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,159 they were wanting to sell. So, we got 707 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:50,640 that one. So, that's the most westerly 708 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 private ownership that is interfering 709 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,750 with the uh preserve. 710 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,159 And then if we do acquire this, we will 711 00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:02,000 be required to remove all the structures 712 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,600 and everything on this. Correct. 713 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,159 >> Correct. 714 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:08,159 >> Mr. Sun, you had a question. 715 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:11,760 >> So the current easement was only back 716 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,360 most westerly property. These people 717 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,440 have no access to that easement. 718 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,480 >> Correct. 719 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,519 >> And now the secondary properties, have 720 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,279 we had any communication with them that 721 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,600 they're looking to pursue legal access? 722 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,200 Because I appear they don't have access 723 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,360 either currently. 724 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,120 They haven't had their attorneys contact 725 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,399 us yet. 726 00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:35,120 >> And then just last question, 727 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,799 if we were to be able to fail to reach 728 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,880 an agreement on purchase price, what 729 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,360 costs legal cost is associated with the 730 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240 county for them to gain legal access? Is 731 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120 it 732 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,600 >> we would have to um perfect their 733 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 easement rights? we would we would want 734 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,080 to restrict it to the path that they're 735 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200 currently following. Um, you know, we 736 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,360 certainly wouldn't want to go into a a 737 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440 court situation and they say they want 738 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,039 to, you know, a court come back and say, 739 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,279 "Hey, follow the yellow line. Now we 740 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,399 have a new disturbed area." 741 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:13,840 I I think just common sense wise they 742 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,360 would, you know, if it went to trial, it 743 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,919 would be a you follow the path that 744 00:33:19,919 --> 00:33:22,000 they've been following. And that's 745 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,799 pretty much the legal opinion that that 746 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,440 I've received is that, you know, that 747 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,000 would be what they would get. We don't 748 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,760 really have the ability to charge them 749 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,880 damages or anything like that. Uh what 750 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360 we would be looking to do is have them 751 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840 pay for a survey to draw out the legal 752 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,519 description and then 753 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:49,679 um survey the area that their um 754 00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:53,200 ownership entails so that we can have 755 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840 demarcation as to here's where you can 756 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,000 go. You can walk through the whole 757 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,519 preserve. But I don't think that's how 758 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,440 people like to travel out here. But when you see a bunch of toys that folks 759 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,240 have and they tend to be these ATVs and 760 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,839 stuff, 761 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,359 um 762 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:14,639 I just leave it at that. 763 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,960 Any other questions of Mr. Clemens? 764 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,200 All right. Before we move forward, uh 765 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,960 would anyone in the public care to speak 766 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,159 on nomination 655-2, 767 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,879 Charlotte Harbor buffer preserve infill 768 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:31,040 2 acres? If so, please come forward, 769 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:40,950 please. 770 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,679 Sherry Morris. For the record, I have 771 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,599 hiked that and it is creepy when you are 772 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,839 hiking through a preserve and all of a 773 00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:51,760 sudden you get to something and I tell 774 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,520 my husband we can't go there, you know. 775 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,480 So, it it really is disturbing as a as a 776 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,440 hiker when you think this is, you know, 777 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920 where we're going to get to go and um so 778 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,359 and because you don't know, you you 779 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,520 you're worried about how the people the 780 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,760 owners feel about you being anywhere 781 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,720 around there. So, so the more of that we 782 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,760 can take care of, the better. 783 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,480 >> Thank you. 784 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,480 Would anyone else in the 785 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,560 public care to speak on nomination 786 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,400 655-2? If so, please come forward. 787 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,320 Seeing none, we'll close public comment. 788 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,400 What is the pleasure of the committee 789 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,359 with respect to nomination 665-2? Mr. 790 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:33,920 Sun, uh, pursuant to staff's 791 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,240 recommendation to avoid the uh, 792 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,839 potential maintenance and costs and uh, 793 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:42,320 damage to the current preserve. I would 794 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,880 move that we uh, move forward with the 795 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,200 nomination and place it in tier one. 796 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,800 >> Thank you. We have a motion or we have a 797 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,200 second. 798 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,520 >> Second, 799 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,280 >> Mr. Paul. All right. We have a motion 800 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,839 and a second to move forward move 801 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:00,480 item 655-2 nomination 65-2 forward. Any 802 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,320 discussion? 803 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,839 All in favor say I. 804 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:06,880 >> I. Any in opposition? 805 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520 That carries unanimously. 806 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,640 I have a question. Robert, can we go 807 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:18,470 after the other property as well? 808 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,440 At the same time, 809 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,320 >> we can certainly solicit them. 810 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,400 >> Do you need a motion or you guys? 811 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,200 >> We can just do it. Seth can just do it. 812 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,599 I think everyone probably is would would 813 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,359 vote for that even if it was a motion. 814 00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:34,880 Makes sense. Thank you. Uh the next item 815 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,480 is item 6B, nomination 673 in the crew 816 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,400 trust, uh 30 acres with a score of 79. 817 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,000 Uh Mr. Clemens, please give us some 818 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,310 background on this parcel, sir. 819 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,640 » Yeah, we're looking at about a combined 820 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440 it's two tracks of land, but it equates 821 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,800 to about 30 acres in uh section 29 of 822 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,800 the crew area. Um it scores 79 points. 823 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,680 staff recommends to 824 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,800 pursue this parcel for acquisition 825 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,760 purposes. It is contiguous to um public 826 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,839 ownership. These lines get a little 827 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:17,599 skewed in the maps, but that uh green 828 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,960 line, I mean that green area that's on 829 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,960 the left hand side of the screen would 830 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,680 form the uh easterly bound or touch the 831 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,520 easterly boundary of the subject 832 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,680 properties. 833 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,200 That's the crew trust itself, correct? 834 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,960 Saying it borders that at least 835 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,640 certainly the north 836 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,599 >> portion north half of this does. 837 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:40,960 >> Correct. 838 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,280 This this is als 839 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,400 uh ecosystem area 840 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000 and it will be beneficial to projects 841 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,800 that natural resources is working on. 842 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,640 >> What tier would you recommend this for? 843 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,470 >> Uh tier one. 844 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,160 And these are the highest scoring 845 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,119 parcels that we have in the in the crew 846 00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:06,880 area. 847 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,119 >> All righty. Any comments or questions of 848 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:20,550 let Miss Andrew 849 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,119 acquire this whole thing for a long 850 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:27,430 time. 851 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,800 So you want to do you want to change 852 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,230 that and not move forward with this one? 853 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,310 » I want to move forward. 854 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640 » All right. Thank you. All righty. Any 855 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,079 other questions? Mr. Broco, 856 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,240 >> what's this this strip between the two 857 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,200 parcels? 858 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,280 >> It's it's just mapping. 859 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,520 >> Okay. So So they touch. 860 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,000 >> Yeah. 861 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,440 >> Okay. 862 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,839 >> Any other questions or comments? Seeing 863 00:38:53,839 --> 00:38:55,200 none, we'll go to the public. Would 864 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,400 anyone in the public care to speak on 865 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,680 nomination 673 in the crew trust 30 866 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,480 acres? Please come forward. 867 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,880 Seeing none, we'll close public comment. 868 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960 What is the committee's uh direction 869 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,000 with respect to nomination 673 that's 870 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,720 recommended for acquisition review as a 871 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,240 tier one parcel. 872 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,000 >> I move forward. 873 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,440 >> Moved by Miss Andrew. Do we have a 874 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,040 second? 875 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,800 >> Second by Mr. Tasman. We have a motion 876 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,720 to second. Any discussion? Any 877 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:24,960 opposition? That carries unanimously. 878 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,400 Thanks everyone very much. There's a lot 879 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,280 of lot of parcels to look at tonight. Um 880 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,000 >> clarify I'm sorry. We clarify that 881 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,280 that's tier one, please. 882 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,320 >> Tier one. Yes. 883 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:41,589 >> Thank you. 884 00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,240 » All righty. Uh 885 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,800 as everyone knows or we've talked about 886 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,160 in the past, we're governed by the 887 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,119 sunshine law. And from time to time it's 888 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:54,960 very uh helpful for us to either get a a 889 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,960 primer or a refresher as the case may be 890 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,000 either way on what that uh means and how 891 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,880 that would affect how we operate uh as 892 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,240 members of this committee. So we've 893 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,520 asked our county attorney's office and 894 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,839 Miss Swindle to give us an overview of 895 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:09,520 the Sunshine Law and things we need to 896 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,829 be aware of. The floor is yours. Ma'am, 897 00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:20,079 please uh please go forward. 898 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,240 Thank you. All right. Good evening 899 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,560 everyone. Amanda Swendle with the county 900 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,520 attorney's office. Um, as the chair has 901 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,560 said, I'm here to talk to you about um, 902 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040 public records, sunshine law, and voting 903 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160 conflicts. And just keep in mind that 904 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,359 this is like a Mount Everest level view 905 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:42,079 of what is included in public record, 906 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,920 Sunshine Law. The the amount of 907 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,920 information and rules and exceptions to 908 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,480 rules that there are is so voluminous. 909 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,880 it would take me three or four days to tell you all about it. So, this is 910 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,839 just really the the the highlights, the 911 00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:58,960 upshots, and um just the the main things 912 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,560 to keep in mind. So, um as as your chair 913 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,160 said, um your role as an advisory board 914 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,079 member subjects you to the exact same 915 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,480 laws and standards that are applicable 916 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,160 to elected officials, uh the 917 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,920 commissioners who appointed you. The 918 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,839 reasoning is is that even though you 919 00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:18,079 make a recommendation to the board, that 920 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,400 recommendation is part of the entire 921 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,240 decision-making process that will 922 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,160 eventually go to the legislative body 923 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,960 for a vote. So, all of that comes in to 924 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,240 what we call um sunshine law. So, the 925 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,359 main rules to um to keep in mind is that 926 00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:36,400 you should only discuss board me at a 927 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,280 noticed public meeting such as this. Um, 928 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,560 you should assume that all your 929 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960 communications regarding matters that 930 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,480 come before this board are public 931 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,440 records. And if you ever have a doubt or 932 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,440 a question as to whether a communication 933 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,599 is a public record or something has gone 934 00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,359 out of the sunshine or if you have a 935 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:56,000 voting conflict, just stop and ask 936 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,680 staff. So, if you could remember 937 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,560 anything from this uh presentation is if 938 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,319 a little flag goes up in your brain and 939 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:04,880 you think, just send the question to 940 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,960 Renee and then Renee will forward it to 941 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,200 me most likely. and and we'll get you an 942 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,359 answer. So, that's that's what the 943 00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:14,480 county attorney's office is here for. 944 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,200 Um, so the Sunshine Law, the rule is 945 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,960 that two or more members of the same 946 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,280 board may not discuss matters on which 947 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680 foreseeable board action will be taken 948 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,480 except at a noticed meeting. So any two 949 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,599 members of the same board communicating 950 00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,240 in any medium. So in person, phone, 951 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,440 email, text, chat message, social media, 952 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,079 all of those would be uh prohibited 953 00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:40,960 forms of communication. Um even indirect 954 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,680 communication. So you can't tell, you 955 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,760 know, Renee, would you go and pull the 956 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,359 other board members to see what they 957 00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:51,040 think about this? You know, or um relay 958 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,040 information between two board members 959 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,920 using a third party. um that would that 960 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,440 would be a violation of the sunshine 961 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,960 law. Um so what does foreseeable action 962 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,720 mean? It means something obviously 963 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,240 that's going to come before this board 964 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,599 and you're going to vote on it. Um and 965 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,520 it doesn't mean that it's on the agenda 966 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,800 for the next meeting. It means that it will the potential for it to come to 967 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,200 you for a vote is foreseeable at this 968 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,680 moment. So we um I would say in this 969 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,680 context a a nomination that's been 970 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,240 submitted that hasn't come before the 971 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,160 board yet, you would assume that that 972 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,920 would be foreseeable action that the 973 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,839 board might eventually take. So that 974 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:32,800 would come under it. So some some things 975 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,280 um some examples I've seen that people 976 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880 get in trouble with texting. Um 977 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,119 I would strongly recommend against 978 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:47,359 sending any text messages about any uh class act business. um forwarding 979 00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:49,440 materials to another member with your 980 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,400 notes or thoughts on it. Um discussions 981 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,599 in the hallway right before a meeting. 982 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,040 This says after a meeting, but I think 983 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,440 it should say before a meeting. Um 984 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,280 asking staff to run this by another 985 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,880 member. Again, that's that indirect 986 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,160 communication. And this is something 987 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,400 that we just talked about replying all 988 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,119 to a group message. you know, if you're 989 00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:10,960 gonna, you know, Renee sends out a 990 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,599 message to everybody and you reply with 991 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:15,760 some thought or idea and then everybody 992 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,839 gets it. You've just communicated an 993 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:22,560 idea about a a a foreseeable action. So, 994 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,359 um, common mistakes, I think we just 995 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:28,079 kind of went over most of those. Uh, the 996 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,839 one here, I think social media is 997 00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:33,119 interesting. So, um, obviously if you 998 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,599 make comments on a post about a 2020 999 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:37,599 nomination, you're communicating outside 1000 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,760 of a public meeting. And I've even seen 1001 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,200 some indication, although I haven't seen 1002 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,839 any court cases, that just liking 1003 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:45,359 something could be considered a 1004 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:47,359 communication because you're signaling 1005 00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:50,640 to the public what your opinion is 1006 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,440 essentially. So, um, just kind of watch 1007 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,680 out for that. 1008 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,000 Um, public records, moving right along. 1009 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,839 What counts as a public record? any 1010 00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:02,480 material regardless of form made or 1011 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,160 received in connection with board 1012 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,560 business that's used to perpetuate, 1013 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440 communicate or formalize knowledge. So 1014 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,440 access to public records in Florida is a 1015 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,000 constitutional right of every person. um 1016 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,560 they have the right to uh examine public 1017 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,960 records um on request and the county has 1018 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,680 an obligation to retain public records 1019 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,040 and to redact any or um sensitive 1020 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,960 information out of those. Um so when we 1021 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,000 say regardless of physical form um it 1022 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,839 means obviously electronic 1023 00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:38,400 communications um handwritten notes 1024 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,280 again social media posts um the um 1025 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480 uh the scheduling so a meeting room you 1026 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,480 know that we a conference room that gets 1027 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,839 scheduled with different meetings and 1028 00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:52,480 you have that that's a public record. Um 1029 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,000 so basically anything that is um 1030 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,680 memorialized 1031 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,480 um would be considered a uh potentially 1032 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,640 a public record. 1033 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960 Uh personal devices again this is the 1034 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,240 big one where people get in trouble. Um 1035 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,079 sometimes people make an assumption that 1036 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:11,520 if they communicate on their personal 1037 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,480 phone that it's not a public record. 1038 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,880 That is definitely not the case. So just 1039 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,319 keep that in mind. If you do receive a 1040 00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,400 communication on your personal device 1041 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,640 that you think is a public record, I 1042 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,400 recommend forwarding it to Renee because 1043 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,319 once it hits our county servers, we'll 1044 00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:30,560 be responsible for retaining it and you 1045 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,040 won't. So, um, so what to do? Again, uh, 1046 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,800 don't decide on your own what is or is 1047 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,440 not a public record. If you think that 1048 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,400 it might potentially be, ask question. 1049 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,079 Um, oh yeah, the disappearing message 1050 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,599 apps. This is a new one. Interesting. I don't I've never used any of these, 1051 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,520 but I guess there's apps where you you 1052 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,200 know, communicate and then it's gone. I 1053 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,880 mean, obviously there's no way to retain 1054 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,000 that. I really hope no one's 1055 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,240 talking about county business on one of 1056 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,240 those kind of apps, but you know, it's 1057 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,200 something new that I've heard of. Um, 1058 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,359 all right. So, then, uh, the last topic 1059 00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:06,800 that I'm going to really talk about 1060 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,280 tonight is voting conflicts. when you're 1061 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200 appointed to sit on this board, uh you 1062 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,280 are expected to have uh the public's 1063 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,359 interest in mind in all the actions you 1064 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,440 take and that the public interest is 1065 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,280 supposed to override your own personal 1066 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,359 interest. So, uh the the rule is that if 1067 00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:25,680 you have if if an item is going to come 1068 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,680 before you uh for a vote and that item 1069 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,560 could potentially benefit you, a 1070 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,839 relative or your employer that you are 1071 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:37,680 not allowed to vote on it, you you need 1072 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,560 to abstain. You need to fill out a form 1073 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,480 um saying why you need to abstain and 1074 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,720 you need to announce that at the at the 1075 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,280 public meeting. So, um, and this is a 1076 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,319 really tricky, um, area of the law 1077 00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:52,560 because first of all, family members, 1078 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,960 that's divine defined very specifically. 1079 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,480 It goes up to your parents and then down 1080 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,160 to your um, 1081 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,599 your children, but not to your 1082 00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,839 grandchildren or your grandparents. And 1083 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:07,359 anyways, there's all different like 1084 00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:09,920 kinds of um, you know, exceptions and 1085 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,319 rules. Um, who counts as your employer? 1086 00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:15,359 That's a very litigated area of the law. 1087 00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:18,000 Um so all those questions are very you 1088 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,720 know minutia type questions that again 1089 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,240 should come to the county attorney's 1090 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,520 office for a legal opinion. 1091 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,880 Um so again that's what the county 1092 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,880 attorney's office is here for. That's 1093 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,359 essentially my role in being a li le 1094 00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:36,960 liaison to this board. So um I'm happy 1095 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,880 to answer any questions that you have. 1096 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,160 I've gone through this really really 1097 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,839 quickly I know but in the interest I 1098 00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:43,200 know everybody probably wants to get 1099 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040 home. So, if anyone has any questions, 1100 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,680 I'm happy to answer them here or you're free to ask me offline. 1101 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,720 >> I do have one. 1102 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,480 >> Sure. 1103 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:52,880 >> Uhhuh. 1104 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,119 >> And I like to log everything 2020 post. 1105 00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:58,559 >> Uhhuh. Is that a problem? 1106 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:01,040 >> I I would 1107 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,359 What is 2020 posting? Are they posting 1108 00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:05,680 things before a nomination gets voted 1109 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,160 on? 1110 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,520 >> Only stuff we acquire. 1111 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,680 >> Okay. Yes. If it's after acquired, then 1112 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:10,720 no, you don't have to worry about it. 1113 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:11,920 But I was like, I really hope they're 1114 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,640 not posting that. 1115 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,640 >> Okay, good. Um, yeah. So, you're good 1116 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,839 there. Now, I would avoid, you know, if 1117 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:22,720 someone makes a comment getting into 1118 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:25,119 some kind of discussion back and forth. 1119 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,040 >> Well, that's not a good idea anytime, I 1120 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,589 don't think. 1121 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,119 » Yeah. But if they posted, you know, if 1122 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,119 there was a post saying this nomination 1123 00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,680 is coming to us and you did like, you 1124 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,319 know, happy face, whatever that and 1125 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,240 again, like I said, I haven't seen any 1126 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:44,000 court cases that have actually said 1127 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,040 this, but I've seen some uh legal 1128 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,040 theories. 1129 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,800 So, 1130 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,559 all right. Well, thank you everybody. 1131 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:54,640 >> Well, I have I have one real back to 1132 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,920 slide four, 1133 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,270 >> maybe. 1134 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:05,829 Uh, tell me when I'm at four. 1135 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:07,280 » Okay. 1136 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,079 >> The third bullet point you mentioned 1137 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:11,440 that it should have said discuss a 1138 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,720 pending recommendation in the hallway 1139 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,000 before a meeting. Yeah. 1140 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,200 >> Okay. We voted on uh recommended that 1141 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,800 the board of county commissioners pursue 1142 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,400 acquisition of four different parcels. 1143 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,760 Now, let's say we walk out in the 1144 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,640 parking lot and are we prohibitive and 1145 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,240 say, "Well, I'm glad we looked at all 1146 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:27,359 those. There were some good things 1147 00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:28,960 there. What did you think?" Is that a 1148 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,640 violation of the sunshine law because we 1149 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,079 have made a recommendation but it's out 1150 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:33,359 of our hands now. 1151 00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:35,920 >> So I I I would kind of split that up. So 1152 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,319 when you make the recommendation for 1153 00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:40,720 acquisition by the board I I think 1154 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:42,559 that's okay because it's now out of your 1155 00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,640 hands. But if it's for you know to 1156 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,760 pursue negotiations that is going to 1157 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,480 come back to you again. So I would say I 1158 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,520 would say avoid that. 1159 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,760 >> Good difference. So tonight we could 1160 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,480 discuss the four that went for were were 1161 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,240 recommended for purchase but we 1162 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,319 shouldn't discuss the two that were just 1163 00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:01,040 nominated. 1164 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,160 >> That would be my advice. 1165 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:02,640 >> Thanks. 1166 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,079 >> Thank you. 1167 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,760 >> Good differentiation. Thank you. 1168 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920 >> Any other questions? 1169 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,240 >> Thank you very much for that. Uh there 1170 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,559 are uh reporting requirements that we 1171 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,599 all have. So I think that we have uh 1172 00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:19,680 if you transact and do business with the 1173 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,920 county and represent projects before the 1174 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,920 county, you have to file a form 1175 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,000 quarterly to to show what contacts you 1176 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,839 made on behalf of clients. And then we 1177 00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:29,359 each have to file an annual financial 1178 00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:31,520 disclosure as well. So keep keep that in 1179 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,240 mind. No numbers on it, but outlines 1180 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,000 generally where your compensation comes 1181 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,760 from and things like that. 1182 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,119 >> When is that? 1183 00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,119 >> I think it's always at the end of June 1184 00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:44,559 or July, usually in the summer. 1185 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:45,440 And now you have to do it 1186 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,640 electronically. In the old days, you 1187 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,400 could do it very easy by filling out by 1188 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,160 paper and sent in. Now you got to go 1189 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,240 through AI and get your facial 1190 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:53,839 recognition and your retina scanned and 1191 00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,720 all that. Do it. It's ridiculous. It's 1192 00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,280 not quite that bad, but it's still a a 1193 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,240 task. All right. Thank you. Uh, next 1194 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,400 item on our agenda is management 1195 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,440 updates. 1196 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,559 >> Yes, Miss Lumis, 1197 00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,480 >> for the record. And I'm only going to do 1198 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,079 about 30 minutes. You don't worry about 1199 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:12,640 it. Just kidding. Now, one of the things 1200 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,720 I do want to do is I want to introduce 1201 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,200 Jeff Anderson um and kind of explain to 1202 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,800 you one of the things we're we are 1203 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,680 working on in our department um is 1204 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,000 promoting Jeff and he will oversee all 1205 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,960 of our um 2020 employees which will help 1206 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,480 us a great deal. Right now they're 1207 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,640 spread out everywhere which they will be 1208 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960 but he will oversee all of them. So he 1209 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,559 will start coming with us to the 1210 00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,480 meetings. So, I want to introduce Jeff 1211 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,920 and if you can tell us a little bit 1212 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,440 about yourself. 1213 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,359 >> Sure. Um, so I started with the county 1214 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:47,280 in 2004 1215 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,240 um with Conservation 2020. Um, I've 1216 00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,640 spent the last six years mainly managing 1217 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,240 the Cape Coral preserves, 1218 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,640 but over the years have worked and done 1219 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,200 management on pretty much all the 1220 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,119 preserves in the county. Um, so I'm very 1221 00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:09,040 familiar with with all of them and um 1222 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,000 just, you know, en enjoy all of it and 1223 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,960 looking forward to continuing my career 1224 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,880 doing the land management 1225 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,599 >> countywide is the city is primarily in 1226 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:20,880 be, you know, all over the place. 1227 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,200 >> Yes, 1228 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,040 >> all of it. So, we're really excited 1229 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,480 about it. them. It's been I think really 1230 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,480 I think since Kathy Olsen was around 1231 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,720 before we had you know somebody over top 1232 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,200 of them because each one of them had a 1233 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,119 different manager. This will make it 1234 00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:36,800 easier. We'll have a better 1235 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,240 understanding of everything which will 1236 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:43,359 be really good. Um I gave um Renee notes 1237 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:44,800 more detailed notes so I'm not going to 1238 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,800 read through a whole bunch of stuff just 1239 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,640 some different things. This is just a 1240 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,680 picture of G. It is completely done now 1241 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,599 and it's absolutely gorgeous. So, just 1242 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:55,280 wanted to show you even better picture 1243 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,640 than last time. Um, and it all of our 1244 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,960 preserves, our all of our um 2020 people 1245 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,839 are doing exotic removals. They're 1246 00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:08,160 trimming the trails. They're it's 1247 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,079 everywhere. So, if you want details, 1248 00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:11,680 it'll be more in the report, but they're 1249 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,240 all doing it. Um, we did get some 1250 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,319 benches donated 1251 00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:19,119 um from Fort Meyers Edison Quanas that 1252 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:21,520 are going to go out to Oak Hammock. So, 1253 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,960 are they there yet? No. 1254 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,240 >> Okay. But they're going to be going out 1255 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,599 to Oak. 1256 00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:28,800 >> Um, Wild Turkey Strand will be having a 1257 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,640 Memorial Day workday if anyone's 1258 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,640 interested. 8:30 to noon. Matanza's Pass 1259 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,800 Preserve is almost done. It's getting 1260 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,760 closer. Staff have spent days and days 1261 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,680 working on it for when we can open it 1262 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,280 up. It's It's going to be absolutely 1263 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,880 gorgeous. We're hoping maybe June. We're 1264 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,040 keeping our fingers crossed. Yellow 1265 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,040 Fever Creek will be closing the parking 1266 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,000 lot June the 1st through the 4th to work 1267 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,520 on drainage and parking lot 1268 00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:00,400 improvements. Um and then since October 1269 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,920 at our preserves they have caught 755 1270 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,520 hogs. 1271 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,240 >> So just ongoing staff are doing an 1272 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,559 amazing job. So that's it. You have any 1273 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:14,630 questions? 1274 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,190 Right. 1275 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,480 Thank you very much. U would anyone else 1276 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,920 uh do anyone have any questions of Miss 1277 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,000 Lumis? 1278 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,359 All right. Thank you. Thank you for that 1279 00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:29,599 report. Uh are there any committee 1280 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:31,040 member items that anyone would like to 1281 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,400 bring forward at this time? If so, 1282 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,280 please go forward. 1283 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,520 M Mr. Sure. I have one and it is 1284 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,880 actually not class act related, but I 1285 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,640 did want to heap some praise on the 1286 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,839 parks department and excuse me, uh, 1287 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:46,079 deputy director at Lumis' team. We had 1288 00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:47,520 the Florida High School state 1289 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,520 championships in baseball happening here 1290 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,440 in Lee County over the last seven days. 1291 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,359 Today, we just crowned the last two of 1292 00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:55,599 the eight statewide champions. And so, 1293 00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:58,000 big thanks to uh the parks department, 1294 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,839 all the work they do to make that a 1295 00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:01,359 wonderful tournament and event and 1296 00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:02,720 represent Lee County very well at a 1297 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,559 statewide level. So, thank you guys. 1298 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:06,079 Just as a followup to that, the 3A 1299 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:07,440 championship game, the squeeze playm 1300 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,400 made world internet. Oh my gosh. How 1301 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,799 >> I If you look very closely at the end of 1302 00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:14,480 that play, you see me ushering my 1303 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,119 umpires off the field 1304 00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:19,200 from the opposite dugout because the 1305 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,799 friends in the one dugout weren't as 1306 00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:22,640 excited about the squeeze play as as you 1307 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,359 are. 1308 00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:25,040 >> It is really worth watching, man. It is 1309 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,000 so fun. All righty. Thank you. Any other 1310 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,359 comments? Seeing none, uh our next Oh, 1311 00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:33,440 public comment. Would anyone in the 1312 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,280 public care to speak on anything? We had 1313 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,040 a thumbs up. We're good to go. Our next 1314 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,400 meeting date is June 17th at 5:30. 1315 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,839 Seeing no other business, we'll 1316 00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:44,880 entertain a motion for adjournment. 1317 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,799 We have a motion second by Mr. Sun and 1318 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:49,119 Mr. Cruz. All in favor, please stand and 1319 00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:52,119 go.