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Good evening. It is 7 p.m. on Wednesday, August 12th. I call to order the town council meeting of the town of Leeds. Roll call, please, beginning on my right. Here in price here. Chris Harvey here. Jeff Allen here. And is anybody online from council? No, no, yeah. Okay. Wayne Peterson here, and I'll just mention that Cole Furley is on deployment with his position with the bomb squad. He was going to try to call in.

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and if he does, Carrie will note one he joins the meeting.

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Okay, for the invocation this evening, Susan, would you please provide the invocation?

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I'm

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not here to find the cat like this.

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All the priori are actually helping to find his brain.

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All right, when the father who are so grateful to be here together in such favorable circumstances,

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is always so grateful for those who serve us and the town leadership, grateful for those

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scary in Scott and the people from the fire department who come from out of town. We know

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they were at long hours and pray for their blessings with their service and safety and their travels.

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We're grateful for members of our community who have come to the meetings and the efforts

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that we all make for our border and in our community and and camaraderie.

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We're grateful for those who are giving their service in so many ways, and

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You pray for all those who are in harm's way and those who are fighting a lot of

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harm.

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You pray for those who are serving in locally or in the country and in the head throughout

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the world.

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There are so many who are in harm's way and in difficult circumstances we pray for them.

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You pray for those who are giving you military service that they will not be open for them

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to be able to provide those services.

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Thanks, Heavenly Father, for health and strength, for this community, thank me, thank you for

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the relief from the heat and hope that Ray might come if that would seem to be it.

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And we pray for that blessing during this meeting, for the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Everyone would please rise.

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Thank you.

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And first, join me in a moment of silence in memory of those wild land firefighters who

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who have lost their lives this summer fighting the fires and providing for our safety.

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Please join me in the pledge of allegiance, begin.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

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which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Are there any abstentions or conflicts to declare this evening, beginning on my left?

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I have none and Wayne Peters and I have none. The consent agenda for this evening consists

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of tonight's agenda for August 12, 2026 and the meeting minutes of July 8, 2026. May

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I have a motion to approve tonight's consent agenda. I'll make a motion to approve tonight's

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consent agenda.

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Okay, any questions or comments from Council roll call vote. Please be getting on my right air price. I Chris Harvey. I

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Jeff Allen and Wayne Peters and I for announcements. There are a few this evening one that's on the agenda. The cookout dinner will be on Friday, August 21st,

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We hope it won't repeat what July was was the heaviest rainfall of the month I think right at about 6.15.

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But it is scheduled for 6.30 there on week from Friday.

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At this point, I would like to call on Javen Lambertson to come forward and share with us some information regarding the fire wise program.

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has been some a little bit of confusion about the fire-wise stuff, but leads became

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a fire-wise recognized U.S.A. site, which means all of our community members and stuff

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we put in effort to do fields reduction, take down dead trees, and do a total investment

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about $14,000 to do some clearing.

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I had to go do, basically go take a lot of photos of homes that have growth, common areas,

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going up and down Main Street with the trees, etc.

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Send that into the state, and basically if they, we're going to release the high risk

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so they put that in consideration.

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So what I did is how to do this whole like 800 page paper I feel like and send it in and

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then go off if you could be approved or not.

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What it is is, since we are a high recognized site or a high risk area, it potentially can bring down your resident insurance rates.

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So if you take a picture of that certification, you'll be able to send that in and your insurance people might be happy and lower it.

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And then it opens up grants and funding for us to be able to do mitigation stuff with her and fire.

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So, um, obviously I'm on the agenda today for it, so in two weeks we're hoping to be

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able to get on the agenda, I don't know how really how that works, to be able to speak

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about it.

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I'm telling you you said that your wildlife partner would be able to come and speak on

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behalf of this with us and kind of give everyone more in depth and kind of explain what it

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means.

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Do you schedule that with him?

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With the person that was coming to talk?

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Yeah.

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Or is it?

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Yeah, if I could get hold of it.

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I was just on the phone a little bit ago with Cole.

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And he was saying either him or someone from the department

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would be able to come.

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Honestly, he would be the best fit for it to be able to explain.

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And it is in August another month we only have one.

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We only have one meeting.

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It will be in four weeks.

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It would be on September 9th.

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We'll have that.

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So that gives him more time to get it on the calendar to September 9th.

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That's where we're going through here.

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Okay, yeah, cool.

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And that will just get, like I said,

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we'll explain it more, kind of let people know more in depth,

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because hurricane fires get in calls.

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I'm getting calls that news are calling us wanting to do

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a sort of article on this and explain like,

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why hasn't their insurance rates haven't went down yet?

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Well, that's not how it works right away.

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And then funding too, they said it would be the middle next year and the next year we

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end up coming with a thing where they want us to mitigate or whatever then that will

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be the end of next year but want to get more in depth with that later but if that's something

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that we could get on and speak then we could go from there but just to kind of eliminate

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some of the confusion we'll be able to talk about it a few weeks and go from there.

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Okay, well thank you very much appreciate all the work that you put into that, Jim.

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Okay, I have another announcement yesterday I was notified by Paul Morris of the silver

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cliffs development group that they now have a purchase and sale agreement with the owner

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of B's market which is located in Colorado City and they will be putting in a 50,000 square

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foot grocery store along Old Highway 91 included in it will be some restaurants

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and other food services. They also will be putting in on an adjacent property

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that's going to be within leads. A hardware store with a lumber yard attached

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to it. The lumber yard may have a lot of customers early on with regard to the

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construction that's going to be taking place. It's not mandatory, but it's one

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possibility that might happen. They raised that as a definite situation that

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they think could unfold. And we will also be looking to receive their

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application. I was notified to annex into the town of Leeds, the portion that's

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in an unincorporated Washington County, as well as another tenake or parcel that

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is currently an unincorporated Washington County in the residential area that is currently has a

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development agreement with the county that they're going to look to withdraw and enter into one

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with the town of Leeds. So we are moving in I think very much the right direction with that.

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It's been worked on for quite some time by the Silver Cliffs organization and the town had

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requested that a grocery store be put in, and it's not going to be a little one. It's

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going to be a big one. So I think that's very good news and appreciate having the opportunity

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now to share that with you all. That moves us to the public comment. As we have done in

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the past, we asked Chief Butterfield to start it off if the mayor is smart enough to remember

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to recognize him, which I am this evening, and then we'll move on to public comment after

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that department

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answered 500, seven calls. 300 and E3 of those were medical-related,

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and the other two kind of fell into the, or 124 fell into the fire or other

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categories. So we're about 20% above call volume from what we were last year

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and we're pushing and giving for close to 7,000 calls, we're taking this year. So we're

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We're busy, we're right on track, so I guess how many questions for me?

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When you hear about the developments that come and the amount of potential new humans in

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a spot, in a space, in a, you know, because what is your response to that and in your projections?

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and like I can't wait till the silver, silver cliffs.

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Silver cliffs.

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Get a fire station built out here.

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So we can be closer to provide a quicker service to you guys.

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So that's part of their agenda?

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Yeah, there's a property over there allocated.

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We have a plan for a fire station footprint for it.

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It will be very similar to one that's being built out

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And the entrance is hand-hauled.

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And that doesn't replace anything.

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That's just additional.

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Right now, it takes quite a bit time to get out here.

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I mean, they're core candy and more lubricant.

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So, it'll be great.

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The fire doubles inside every now and then.

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So, it'll be out here, it'll be close.

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It'll be great.

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Medical urgency to be able to get to you quicker.

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It's, I'm excited for it, but I can't wait.

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Can you comment about the current station we had just done the road event?

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A couple of the, is that going to still be there?

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Why is this going to conflict with that?

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What's the deal?

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So I don't know for sure.

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I'd be Chief Decker or Chief Colford.

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The question?

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I don't know what their plan is there.

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Two separate divisions inside the organization.

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See, that's right now.

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That's the wild land guys.

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I'm not sure what chief's plan has with that just yet, but I'm sure he has something he just haven't told me.

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I do know on the other station that's going out there.

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It's exciting for us.

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Any questions from members of the public for Chief Butterfield?

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Okay, thank you very much Chief.

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Okay, that brings us the public comment period for everyone else.

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Yes.

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Is he available for September 9th at 7 p.m. for a presentation about the Firewise

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USA program? Yes. Yes. Excellent. Okay. We would ask that you please join us then.

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That would be great to see you on Wednesday, September 9th at 7 p.m.

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Okay, thank you. I always like to look at people when I talk to them so that there's

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our out.

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Okay, anybody from the public wish to comment at this point? Okay, there'll

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be a second opportunity at the end of the meeting so we will make it available

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that as well.

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There is no public hearing this evening, so we have a couple of discussion

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and possible action items. Items 9A and B are somewhat related. The development of

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silver cliffs had a somewhat unique approach certainly for the town of Leeds to installing

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the roads. They installed the roads with curb the entire length of them, and that wasn't

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oversight. It was intentional and they are looking as each home gets built to cut out the portion

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of the curb that would be where the driveway apron is going to be put the driveway apron in

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and also put the section of sidewalk in. The hope is that they won't be ripping out things that

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get damaged and putting them back because they're not in there other than that section of the the

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curbing. Our ordinance really does indicate that that is covered but this is

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trying to provide clarifying language just to make sure that there's no

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question when it comes to that process that we have the fees in place and the

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process in place for them to encroach on.

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What is dedicated to the town, which is the roadway, including that curb, and to replace the portion of the curb with a driveway apron and the sidewalk along the front of the property. So there's language that is just being suggested to be clarifying, which is what is in ordinance, 2026-05. And I will jump to the point just now, therefore, be it resolved by the town council, the town of Leeds, Utah,

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That at a regular meeting, duly called noticed and held on August 12th, 2026 upon a motion

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duly made and seconded and by roll call vote, the words including chip seal are replaced

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with including chip seal curbing and sidewalk in sections 8A2A and 8A2B of the consolidated

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fee schedule previously adopted by the Leeds Town Council as ordinance 2026-01.

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one. So is there somebody from town council who would like to make a motion to approve

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ordinance 206-05?

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Certainly. So does this apply to all new developments inside of our area? What about

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stuff that has been disconnected from us? Obviously, it's not included there. So how do we make sure

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that this practice that is being done with the curbing is really become quite common

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in the last 15 years.

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It used to be more that they poured in a different type

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of drive approach, but everything's about money.

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And so now they come in, do the curb cut,

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and then put it in.

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Once they know what house is going there.

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My question is, did the county have the same curb cut?

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I'm talking about new developments.

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Can I anticipate that new developments,

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whether it be silvery, for whether it be the right vine

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or whether it be any place.

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Now, so we're just disconnected,

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which was my second question.

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But can I anticipate that we'll have continuity

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in the entire city we'll look like it was built

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by the same people?

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In other words, there will be curbing

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that everywhere in the development.

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I don't think so.

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Here's what could happen is so that depending

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on the size lots, let's say the area that's disconnected.

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I think the hope is maybe in the future

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that that annex, you know, there's the possibility that it could annex back into the town.

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One of the things that can be talked about when that development comes in is the county

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has an its standard that when development happens in our adjacent to, I'll use just so it's

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less emotional use the sky ranch area as an example.

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It's an unincorporated island, it's pretty much surrounded by her city.

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And so when that area is developing, what the county code says is whichever standard

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is, a stricter is one and go by.

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And so in this instance, a lot of them in the town, the towns would be stricter than the

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counties.

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and so if the town wanted it, if the town didn't want it, then the county wouldn't force it up.

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Did I answer your question?

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I did when I pushed the answer out.

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Well, the thing is our ordinance, as I recall, currently reads that

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curving gutter are not throughout the whole town.

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That it is mainstreamed as where it is mandated.

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And elsewhere, it's actually stated it's preferred not to have it.

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So the whole...

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Sorry, I didn't answer that.

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And unless there was a change to our land ordinance that said we wanted it throughout

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the entire town.

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What I just said is the whole development that we're talking about is going to have

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turbid gutter.

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Yes, it is.

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Contrary to what we just said about preparing not having a turbid gutter.

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And it was part of the process that was followed when they approved the actual development two,

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three years ago.

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So it's kind of a development specific at this moment, which is the one that's built

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with all the curb and gutter or the curb and already in place.

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So I have a motion that we make the changes to the ordinance on the curb and gutter and

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the chip seal, the verbal changes on it.

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Okay.

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Is there a second on that?

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I will second.

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Okay.

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Any further questions or discussion roll call vote beginning on my right, please

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Before I answer is there any further discussion on that. That's what I

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I didn't have any

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Oh, but I was just trying to check okay. He wants me to argue

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I wanted to see it. Well, I

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Use my

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Voice so it's on the record. I am I'm not sure I'm pro sidewalk or not pro sidewalk

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I like prefer walking on the sidewalk than out on the traffic so to that level. I'm a little bit pro sidewalk

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Certainly in areas where there's a lot of traffic or where there's a lot of congested houses, but I've lived in a country a lot of my life

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And there's no curbs and gutters when you got 50 acre spreads up look and so I get that

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But I also like continuity of the town proper, you know

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I don't like the town to be hodgepodge together. So

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I made a comment. Now I expressed my opinion and I'll go ahead and vote when I turn the vote

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I'm going to go ahead and say air and price I

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Chris Harvey I

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Jeff Allen I and Wayne Peterson. I

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I would offer up that as it's been explained to me one of the interest is the cost certainly of the thing when when homes are a bit further apart

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The other is that it is the runoff of water that when you capture it and have it run for a distance and then let it go

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There's a lot more volume going in one place

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So there are pros and cons to it, I agree.

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I wasn't expressing my opinion that we should all go

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to government, I'll go to courtless and go to this.

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But I do like continuity in city property.

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Yep, okay.

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That moves us to a related item 9B,

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amending ordinance 2007-08,

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with ordinance 2020-606 amendments to encroachment permits.

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The now therefore be it resolved

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by the town council of the town of Leeds, Utah, similarly at the meeting this evening,

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and we're going to have a motion on a roll call vote.

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The fee amount is to be currently reads $45 per square foot of service for excavation

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of pavement including chip seal, $6 per square foot of gravel surface, and $3 per square

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foot of unimproved surface are replaced with the fee amount is to be as specified in the

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The town of Leeds consolidated fee schedule in ordinance 2007-08, section 13A, and the

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words deposit the sum of $125 are replaced with deposit the sum as specified in the town

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of Leeds consolidated fee schedule in ordinance 2007-08, section 13B.

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The reason for this, it is recommended by Utah League of Cities and Towns as best practice

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when you have a consolidated fee schedule to use it and to not try to specify

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in each and every ordinance what the fees are because when you change your fees

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if you don't remember to go back and change the fees in the ordinance that use the numbers

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you get into the situation where it's arguable what the fee should be.

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One fee schedule to change all the time and you can do it annually and it

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covers everything. Great. So we want this. Okay. I want this. All right. Is there any discussion

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before I ask for a motion so I don't get it out of a sequence here. Yeah. Okay. All right.

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With not is there a motion to approve ordinance 202606 amendments to encroachment permits stated in

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the ordinance 2007 away.

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I make a motion to approve ordinance 202606

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and updated with the wording about the fee schedule.

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Okay, is there second?

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I'll second it.

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All right, roll call vote beginning on my right, please.

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Aaron Price, aye.

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Chris Harvey, aye.

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Good morning, aye.

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And Wayne Peterson, aye.

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It gets us to discussion items.

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There'll be no action on any of these this evening.

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Cemetery is including but not limited to military monuments,

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status of disconnected Catholic and Protestant cemeteries

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I would turn this over to the representative on Council for

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Cemetery's, Jeff Allen, and to our sexton,

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Doris McNally. Jeff, you want to...

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I think it's making the introduction come into this.

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Doris is our sexton and she's doing a great job of carrying for our

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Cemetery's and making sure that they're in top notch condition.

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And I appreciate that. I think a lot of us appreciate that.

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She's been working tirelessly for military monuments at the same time.

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Do you know that we have military celebrations there, or

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recognitions there, at least once a year, sometimes twice a year,

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and sometimes we're strumbling around on grade with craves,

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all that stage in place.

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There's a proposal that's being put together to improve that condition.

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So she'll bring that up.

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I just wanted to express a.

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My appreciation to our sexton for all the work that she's doing.

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And two, suggest that we all give some pretty serious ear to what she's suggesting here.

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And we'd like to see us have this discussion for a couple of town councils with either at the end of that process.

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Motion to move forward or a motion to see some disease.

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And we'll see how that goes in a month or two for us.

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Yeah.

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So thank you.

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I put a few slides together just to kind of give an update.

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because the council's relatively new so I thought it might be a good time just to go through

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a review. So my van away I'm going to test. Yes. And now your van just messed up the presentation

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mode. Okay.

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I got nervous. Very sad on your version. Your presentation mode should be

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down the bottom. We'll just scroll to the next page now.

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Okay. So just four visuals. Okay.

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We're talking about the three cemeteries of leads.

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You have the one is the Silver Reef Protestants Cemetery.

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You have the Silver Reef Catholic Cemetery,

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and then you have the lead cemetery.

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So let me give you a quick update on all three of them.

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So relevant to the Pioneer Cemetery,

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that is the largest cemetery of all three.

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It has the potential for 724 people or internments.

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It is also one of the least of they populated,

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and those has a lot of unknowns.

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One of the things in the future is the next slide just to give a visual, these are the number of plots.

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The area to the right and a little rectangle, that is the Lions Club area and that was opened up in a few years back.

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And it's non-denominational, the entire cemetery is non-denominational, those core parts.

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But that is the area where we actually have, we really know where the bodies are.

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Everything to the left of that rectangle needs to be investigated.

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And now I have plans to be able to investigate rhythm as well as might be in what we need to do,

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be going to the next slide.

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The next one is the Catholic Cemetery.

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This, of course, is under the auspices of the Catholic Church.

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There's 104 plots there.

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We currently can identify at least 38.

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I think the number is 50, 50.

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Oh, available 50.

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No, available 50.

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Not only 35 or something.

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There are no.

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So this is a cemetery where our hands are tied a little bit, if you go to the next line.

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Here's a visual of where it is over in that little square.

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The first two cemeteries I'm talking about are part of the DMXation,

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so I'm going to have some questions about at the end of the disconnect.

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But here's currently where the parcel is currently listed in the report's office that owned by the town of Leeds.

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I would go any further than that, but that's what it is.

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And this is the area of where the cemetery is,

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goes next slide.

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One of the things I've talked about in the future is

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the Board of Discussion I mentioned you before the meeting.

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Okay.

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One of the recommendations that I have had for a little while

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and wanted to talk about is the fact

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that we bring fine wash over the development

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coming into the area.

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There's really no places for new cemeteries,

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but there is an adjacent parcel

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that a piece within the town of Leeds parcel number that could be developed for

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either color barriers or end or cemetery for the future. So this is an area

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where there might be growth which is one of the things we need to talk about as

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a town as the council. Then we have a Leeds cemetery. Right now there's 500. I

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can't see it from here. 549 and 548 spots. I think right now we have a very small

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number of plots available. The companion plots where husband, wife, together are

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twin-bling. There's probably only about six of them available. The rest of them

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are all singles. So this is the one that's the most popular within the town right now.

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Nice question. Is it legal in your absence? It's a question to me before but I need

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to ask you to give this another one, right? Is it legal to go to deep and plot your job?

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Yes, you can't go to, you can't do too great on top of each other. You cannot go to.

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that's in Utah in the state of Utah, at least in this area.

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No.

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So it's one parcel.

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It's one plot, one cemetery, OK?

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Give you the next slide.

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Here's an image of the cemetery.

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We've done a lot of work over the last few years here

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and here in the next slide.

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First thing we did is working through the council.

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At the last council, we were able to obtain the U.Land

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down at the bottom where the cars are

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to be able to use that for additional parking

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in the future. And on the left hand, we also, on the back of the parcel, we were able to work

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with John Zee and get some more land and be able to do some things back there. One of the

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things we've always wanted to do is take advantage, do some improvements in the front of the cemetery,

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where possibly put a memorial area for the military so that we can host most of our beds there.

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And then on the right hand side, the one-only shade tree that's really good there,

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kind of create that in public park, you know, have some visuals and I'll show you

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really next slide. So a year ago, just only, it's actually about 12 months ago, 13

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months ago, landworks working with myself and also the previous council of the

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Danielle Sterling did a series of engineering drawings for us and this is just

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So, here's just a showing of what they had in the front. And what you're seeing in the bottom, and that lighter round circle is the Sunkin Garden. And then where the square is, is actually a pad for parking, for handicap parking, and also the area with military memorials within the next slide. So, here's some visuals of what they had given us is that the idea here was to have individual monuments for all the branches of service, and then have flags behind them to represent each one of them.

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And if you can't have leaves here, that's one of the things we do every year at the September

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11th and the 4th of July.

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All the celebrations we have to cemetery, we bring out the individual flags and we put

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them out and we pay respects to each one of the branches.

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Next slide.

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So this is a visual, like an example of what that's something garlic might look like.

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There's an area that we could actually sink a little bit down and this work could all be

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I've talked to Mark Osmo, we will know Mark loves working on these type of things.

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These are not things that we have to bring in in here in firm and to do.

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We can actually do it ourselves and make it look very good.

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The idea here is also whatever we do, we want to be able to, if we have to change it in

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10 years or 15 years we can, we don't want everything to be permanent.

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We want it to be something that could be moved because we don't know what's happening with

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the land to the left of us and to the right of us, so we want to be able to reflect

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what we do. So next slide, this is the concept for the military areas just by getting some

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good stone and being able to build these little columns and then purchasing these brass

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emblems for each one of the military. Be able to have a place where we could put the flag

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behind it and then actually have representation for each one of the militaries. Once again,

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this is not, this is very much hand work. This is stuff we can do. You don't have to hire

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somebody to do it is just laying stones in a certain pattern and just having the emblem placed on the front of it.

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But it's the purchasing material that we need to talk about the next slide.

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That's the end of the thing.

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So, relative to the three cemeteries, I kind of didn't get an update.

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We've gone through a lot of renovations of all three including the Protestant cemeteries.

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We put a fence around it to protect the stones and protect the area.

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and I have to say the area has stayed a lot cleaner.

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The leads cemetery has become a lot cleaner

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with the actual work of getting volunteers

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that one day, but the area is a lot cleaner.

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So I think over the last three years,

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we've seen significant visual improvement.

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Beautification is one of the use that works

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and how they talk like that word.

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All three places.

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But what we really like to do is lean in

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on the entire plan that landwork gave us

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was for the entire leads cemetery.

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It wasn't for the other two, it was just leads.

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We'd like to parse it all out into phases, and the first thing we'd like to do is address the military area because that is where we really have most of our activities and where really our hearts should be.

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We have over 96 military people within three range yards, and this is where we pay honor to every single year.

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So the questions that we have...

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There was a question from the audience.

452
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Do you want to take a question from the audience? That's your quote.

453
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:20,840
So it was me, my brother, dad, on a pretty successful landscape company, and I'm gearing

454
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,260
to you if this was a thing, they get contractor pricing on stone, and then they would probably

455
00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:31,120
want to tear their time to build those as well, just so you guys know, so it comes down to

456
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,320
that thing the price could be cheaper.

457
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,360
I will have a conversation with you, I will have a conversation with you.

458
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,060
One of the things that we're trying to do is the three cemeteries, two of them have a

459
00:33:42,060 --> 00:33:42,960
similar aesthetic.

460
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,120
The lead cemeterie has a little bit different aesthetic.

461
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:50,680
We want to try to make sure all three cemeteries look like they came from the same pedigree.

462
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,980
And that's the first question that I think we have.

463
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,600
And these are really just questions we don't need to have answers right now, Mayor, but we'd

464
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,700
like to just know a little bit more.

465
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,480
With the disconnect and these two cemeteries being identified in the disconnect, even though

466
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,840
we have a deed for the set, the Catholic cemetery.

467
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,900
The question I have is on a few different levels.

468
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,280
If we're going to invest these funds,

469
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:17,320
times, and efforts, are we going to be able still to,

470
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,420
do we have to go through hoops and ladders

471
00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:21,620
to get things approved by another entity

472
00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:23,900
out of ourselves, going to answer it?

473
00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:27,860
The second thing is, is that relevant to any revenue

474
00:34:27,860 --> 00:34:30,520
that's generated from the sale of plots,

475
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:37,340
Do we still maintain the money that are gained and do we still have a budget for these

476
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:37,960
cemeteries?

477
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,220
Or does it just become the lead cemetery once again, no need to answer, okay?

478
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:50,260
And then third thing is relevant to the documentation because every single year you're supposed to

479
00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:54,940
be reporting to entities about who's in turn, what breaks there are, what's, you know,

480
00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:58,600
all the data that we have, this stuff that I've worked on for the last three years and getting

481
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:05,000
with database together, is that something that we continue to manage, or we mandate

482
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,720
it to hand over to the new entity.

483
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:10,240
So there's a few questions relevant to the senators.

484
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,560
I just, I think once again, having read most of the obituaries for each one of these people

485
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,880
and the families, I have to tell you, I've become very, I now understand the town so much

486
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:28,440
deeper in relationship between people, and I think whatever we can do to maintain that

487
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:35,820
responsibility of management over it, whatever we need to do, let's see if we can do it in a good way, because it's really our history.

488
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:37,960
These are the people we're up high in years for our area.

489
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,300
So could I recommend something. Doris has brought up three good questions. I think we're on that.

490
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:47,460
And I don't think we need to pull the trigger and go out to the questions right now.

491
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:53,100
But I think we're out to take those three questions. Maybe we've had it written down if we don't have them already written down clearly.

492
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:59,220
and take a three-week tour until our next town council bring this up again and

493
00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:02,600
kind of take take the next step of work to Doris is done because she's getting

494
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,960
quotes on options that we can take forward some ready to propose okay but one of

495
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:14,040
the last question so the first question is relevant to the two parcels that were

496
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,760
involved in disconnect what is our relationship with them and what is our

497
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,520
managing another side of the park second thing is financially what is the

498
00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:31,340
the other thing is if we're going to spend money and the approval process, it's got what

499
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:36,220
we have to go through about that. But the biggest question is so when Lori Hutsaker was

500
00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:39,980
here and Lori Hutsaker was the one who seeded this thing in my mind many years ago when I first

501
00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:45,140
came here, she actually got a pretty significant group of donation money towards the cemetery.

502
00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:51,320
And at the last council, I had asked a few times and I was told at the last council,

503
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:57,600
I believe, I remember this, it was $14,000 that were still available for the cemeteries,

504
00:36:57,700 --> 00:36:59,960
but it had been populated into another category.

505
00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:04,580
But these are donations that happen for people for the cemeteries, once again, we don't

506
00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:05,100
need to answer.

507
00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:11,460
These were donations given by people for the cemeteries and the question is, is that money

508
00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:16,600
available for cemeteries, or do we have to share other options?

509
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,000
And so that's kind of the questions we have tonight to just get on the record.

510
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:26,880
So could we put a task together for the next month, because we're not going to meet again

511
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,940
until the next month, right?

512
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:33,980
To maybe try to dig down into that and be able to, line by line, answer the question about

513
00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:38,380
the funding, answer the question about the loan's responsibility, and where our responsibility

514
00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:39,600
stops and somebody else starts.

515
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,280
And what was the first one that you asked?

516
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,120
The responsibility in the two?

517
00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:44,320
Well, then also the records?

518
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,420
Oh, the other one is cost center, cost center.

519
00:37:47,420 --> 00:37:52,400
Senator, do you are, this is the question you know I talked about, when we take money

520
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,000
for burials and so forth, does that money, is that a money that the cemeteries can use,

521
00:37:58,180 --> 00:38:04,540
or is it something that goes into general budget, you know what I'm asking, so is our cemeteries

522
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:09,000
a profit and loss organization, or is it part of the general funding of the city?

523
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:10,420
Is that a fair way to say that?

524
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:11,160
That's a fair way to say it.

525
00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:16,300
Once again, we're not looking for answers right now, but I think that considering the amount

526
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,520
effort and time that's going into this if if we don't have the money and if we don't have the

527
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,160
management oversight of this all of this work is for not it's like we you know to go forward

528
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,800
we really need to know that we do have some say in this and we can go further and start to lock down

529
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,600
some of the the quotes are all locked down it's been very difficult because it's 250th anniversary

530
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:42,380
to secure these emblems but I've been able to get quotations on them and everything so I'm ready to

531
00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:47,620
do you present a proposal, what the question is, do we have the money or do we need to start

532
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:51,260
from scratch and start or just say it's not a responsibility at all.

533
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,280
So that's kind of the question.

534
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:55,060
I prefer the process going forward.

535
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,820
Let's get those three questions answered.

536
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,360
And I'd like to get it documented in our town units so that we don't have to go back and say,

537
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,520
oh, who really has responsibility for this?

538
00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:05,240
I think that's for that.

539
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:07,340
I'll just kind of get it documented clearly.

540
00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:09,660
I think Scott, you can help out with that portion of it, right?

541
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,340
Yes.

542
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:19,020
And then in the finance question, can we get, is it carry indoors that can do in and try to figure that out?

543
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,840
What do you think?

544
00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,700
There are a couple things I want to bring up tonight just because they're wonderful here.

545
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,320
I think it's important to hear.

546
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:28,080
So I'll just shut up if you can bring up.

547
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:34,800
All right. I don't want to try to answer everything tonight but I think it's very important because we have people here who might not be here the next time.

548
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:41,520
I did work with Carrie to get the information about the two different cemetery donation

549
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,120
campaigns that took place.

550
00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:50,580
One of them was in 2022 during which $13,350 was raised.

551
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:57,540
There was a state cemetery grant for $1,000 bringing the total $14,350.

552
00:39:57,540 --> 00:40:03,380
50 dollars. That when it was being campaigned was specifying that it was going to be getting

553
00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:12,100
fencing for the cemetery. A total of 10,067 dollars and 23 cents was expended for fencing

554
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:22,000
materials and 4,170 dollars for fencing installation. That brings the total that was donated in excess

555
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:31,820
of that down to about $112.77. There was then another campaign and this I know less

556
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:41,060
about because I was not mayor at the time, but we had a total of $4,100 that were received

557
00:40:41,060 --> 00:40:46,760
in donations. There were a few larger expenditures that were done that I don't know if they were

558
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:59,380
part of this campaign or not. $1,550 for the tree guy. $1,645 for a survey and $7,650 for

559
00:40:59,380 --> 00:41:06,980
landscape design. That total $10,845 far exceeding the $4,100 received donations. I don't know

560
00:41:06,980 --> 00:41:12,720
if they were intended to be matched or not against that. My biggest concern is when people donate money

561
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,660
and it is accepted by the town for a specific purpose.

562
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,940
We need to make sure that it is used for that.

563
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:22,680
From what I'm seeing, the first campaign certainly came very close to matching with things

564
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,800
that I was aware of as I was finishing up as mayor four and a half years ago.

565
00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:33,460
The other thing that was brought up just so that people are aware, the state of Utah, if

566
00:41:33,460 --> 00:41:39,120
you collect perpetual care money, their response is given to us.

567
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:56,680
Because all too often people provide perpetual care money and then the money runs out so the state says we'll manage that money and it becomes a very involved process and my understanding is almost every municipality does their level best to not take in perpetual care money.

568
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:04,080
We are selling plots in our cemeteries on an ongoing basis, that's budgeted as far as revenue.

569
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,220
you, there are expenses associated with an actual burial, but that's not the plot sale.

570
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,720
The day will come when we will ultimately sell every one of these plots.

571
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:20,700
That type of expenditure and revenue the town has historically treated where the lot sales

572
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:21,960
are revenue in that year.

573
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:27,880
And then the town also budgets not based on just the lot sales for that year, but for the

574
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,760
amount of upkeep that it can afford to do on the cemeteries out of the general fund.

575
00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:37,260
Ultimately, once you're done selling the lots, all you're going to have is the expense.

576
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:42,480
And my expectation would be that future town councils would take the view that we do

577
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,220
need to maintain our cemeteries.

578
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,660
So they don't go into a dedicated fund the way that donations do.

579
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,160
And I just wanted to share that, not because I'm trying to answer all the questions tonight.

580
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:58,080
The other thing that was mentioned that is new to my thought process, and we have Scott

581
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:04,460
out here and I said contacting at 9 a.m. tomorrow when he has his county hat on and find out

582
00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:10,200
the kind of things that were allowed to do and not do that might be in conflict and I don't

583
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:16,540
know if the county has anybody who oversees cemeteries in general but if no such person exists,

584
00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:23,980
make sure we can not violate county ordinances and potentially ask to change county ordinances

585
00:43:23,980 --> 00:43:28,420
is if we think they might be amenable to it in order to allow those

586
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:33,580
cemeteries to be what we would envision them. In the disconnect, they did stay

587
00:43:33,580 --> 00:43:39,880
part of the town of Lee. And so they didn't leave. And it was also stated in

588
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,300
the disconnect agreement that they would maintain access to them at all time so

589
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:50,080
that if they're under construction, they need to factor in that somebody who has

590
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,720
a burial plot there might unfortunately pass and we're going to have access to that cemetery

591
00:43:56,140 --> 00:44:00,640
in order to make that. So the intent throughout is going to be that this will be a town

592
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,940
of leads. It's just like the museum is actually owned by the county but that's in the town

593
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:09,640
of leads. So this is the opposite where the town of leads owner it's in the county.

594
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:15,440
We would have to, I think, as I was mentioned, the new light bulb in my head is we want to make

595
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,220
sure we know what the county's reaction would be to that, just because it's going to

596
00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:21,520
be something.

597
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:27,080
And we did get money for the pioneer and the pioneer someone, the cemetery is the

598
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,400
Catholic and Protestant ones, as part of the disconnect agreement.

599
00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:34,980
So thank you for the clarification, because the $14,000 was one of those things that we

600
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:40,180
never really got from Tara Foto, so I appreciate that because this is the first clarity we've

601
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:40,260
had.

602
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,080
I've heard in the six years or five years I've been doing this.

603
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,420
The second thing is, I was able to locate the Catholic Cemetery Dean, he was in the back

604
00:44:48,420 --> 00:44:53,120
room last year, and I actually brought it to the clerk's office, so you actually have

605
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:59,780
a copy of that Dean, but the Protestant Cemetery has no parcel number on it, it is not allowed.

606
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:29,840
Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm excited about doing some things for the military, but also, I think one of the things we need to keep an eye on is that we either we need to really rethink the Protestant cemetery and how we're going to be using it. Put more common variants in or upgrades above ground, because we really have very little cemetery space left getting what was going on with the government.

607
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,300
But thank you for your consideration and just wanted to update you.

608
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:41,340
Okay, thank you for all the work you do as section I know that there is no scheduled time

609
00:45:41,340 --> 00:45:46,840
when your services are going to be highly needed and it's nice how responsive you are

610
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:53,680
and your ability to make the very unfortunate process for the family less challenging.

611
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:55,900
So I think you will know this in smile.

612
00:45:55,900 --> 00:46:09,760
today's an anniversary for me one year and I'm not a resident of the cemeteries I don't remember what what do we

613
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:16,220
have on our budget did we budget anyone this year we got about three thousand and I think it was six but I

614
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:21,560
was like okay so basically there's only three thousand dollars left because according to your

615
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:27,240
calculations when we we've overspend and I'm assuming it came out of our past

616
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:32,640
budget in the past years and so all we have now going forward is it is three

617
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,640
to three thousand so if we need more funds if that costs six thousand then we're

618
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,040
gonna have to have a campaign and ask for donations or whatever we need to do

619
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,980
if we're gonna make that in the future. I would like to suggest that we treat past

620
00:46:47,980 --> 00:47:00,400
expenditures as water into the bridge. Oh yeah, I look forward to this thing and say, I personally believe that I'm proud of the cemetery. So when I first moved here three or four years ago, I was not incredibly proud of the cemetery.

621
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:09,040
You were kind of dusty dirty little places, right? And they're better and better. And they're not getting better and better like that. They're getting better gradually, which is the right thing for us to be doing.

622
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:14,720
And I think the stuff that Doris is presenting and will present is going to show step-by-step

623
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:19,680
improvements that will make them, I think, a real asset to the town, I hope they will.

624
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:22,480
And so I'm excited about that.

625
00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:29,120
As far as revenue far or not revenue, but funding for it, I personally am absolutely not

626
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,020
terrified to have a campaign to go race in donations for this specific thing.

627
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,440
And then we'll see if how much the town wants to support beautification on our cemeteries.

628
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:45,360
And frankly, I think we've got a town who recognizes the sacrifice of the Constitution

629
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,040
as we tell the majority of the members of our town, the people who are alive and are dead.

630
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:51,300
And I'm okay with that.

631
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,340
I think that's a marvelous way to generate some money for this thing.

632
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:57,440
So in conclusion, my partner, thank you, Doris.

633
00:47:57,660 --> 00:47:57,960
Well done.

634
00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:58,680
Appreciate it.

635
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,540
I have a quick question.

636
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:07,860
So the 3000 that we do have in our current fiscal budget year is for the maintenance.

637
00:48:07,860 --> 00:48:13,900
not not for projects it's there's not any limitations on what we could do

638
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:19,540
with that you remember that way and I don't know can I read that that was a

639
00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:24,640
portion that was left over when we were getting the county taxes and it was an

640
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,400
increase and we said we would dedicate that to the cemetery so that wasn't just

641
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,460
for maintenance that for example was to be a strong enough available to us okay

642
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:39,060
I just, my other question I've gotten, I'd like to just ask this specifically to the

643
00:48:39,060 --> 00:48:40,340
Council and maybe to the Mayor of New York.

644
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:46,320
There is a shed in the southwest corner of the cemetery that I've looked inside of it

645
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,220
and it's a disaster.

646
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,240
It's dirty.

647
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:48,860
It's filthy.

648
00:48:49,020 --> 00:48:49,820
It's got rats in it.

649
00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:55,420
I'd like to propose that we tear it down and make that area available for plots and part

650
00:48:55,420 --> 00:48:57,840
of the regular cemetery because I don't think it's valuable to us.

651
00:48:58,820 --> 00:48:59,920
I may add to that.

652
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560
If you're in agreement with me, you can talk, if not.

653
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,950
We actually had agreement from the previous council to do that before some reason it never was

654
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:11,980
able to be facilitated because of the people availability.

655
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,360
But that area, the door is broken.

656
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:21,300
It's a place for vandalism, a bank of iris, whatever you want.

657
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,180
It's really terrible inside, and it's covering enough space that I could probably open up

658
00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:27,860
another 10 grades, 8 to 10 grades.

659
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:33,880
And my feeling is that if we were to purchase a small shed

660
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,960
and put it up by the parking lot for any kind of rakes

661
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,020
or stuff like that, clearly Bill and anybody

662
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,700
who needs to go over there, the materials are here

663
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:46,980
or somewhere, I just think that that area is just,

664
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,940
it's right in the middle and that's where actually two

665
00:49:49,940 --> 00:49:52,780
of larger families in our town have asked,

666
00:49:53,140 --> 00:49:55,340
if you ever put that down, will you give me that spot?

667
00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:57,860
because their family members are right next to it.

668
00:49:57,980 --> 00:50:01,240
So I support removing it for a few different reasons.

669
00:50:01,460 --> 00:50:03,660
So may I make a slight change toward you to set?

670
00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:06,380
I see no incentive to build another shed.

671
00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:07,380
It's not built.

672
00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:08,220
It's purchased.

673
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:08,840
I know.

674
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,280
I don't want to go purchase another shed.

675
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,600
Because we've got no excess rakes laying around

676
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,700
that you have to go in it.

677
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,640
And until we build it, wherever the rakes are,

678
00:50:16,820 --> 00:50:17,440
they can stay there.

679
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,400
But I'm the future for any other shed we do that.

680
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,540
Anyway, that's my proposal.

681
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:38,950
So if I was hearing correctly, I would then take it that you would like it to be another discussion item on September 9th.

682
00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:41,950
I just would just agree to it right now and get a tour down this week.

683
00:50:42,930 --> 00:50:44,790
You need to have it on the agenda.

684
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:57,210
That moves us up to the updating of roads and parks capital facility plans and impact fee calculations.

685
00:50:58,110 --> 00:51:07,810
The roads plan was from 2026 to 2025 so it's time to do another 20 years and I'm only

686
00:51:07,810 --> 00:51:12,810
introducing it tonight with some interesting thoughts. And that is in the

687
00:51:12,810 --> 00:51:24,830
2006 to 2025 plan, the population of Leeds in 2006 was 824 people. In 2005 was

688
00:51:24,830 --> 00:51:32,790
783, while the state of Utah is saying we're 780 people today. Now the number

689
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:43,770
of rooftops in 2005 was 286 and here in 2026, we're at about 380 at this point.

690
00:51:44,970 --> 00:51:49,270
And it doesn't seem Congress, seems like something's happened there.

691
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:56,610
The one thing that is a situation is if you are not a primary resident of the residents

692
00:51:56,610 --> 00:52:00,510
that you have here, you don't get included in the population.

693
00:52:00,510 --> 00:52:05,790
And I think it very much would be supported by the fact that we've had a lot of people

694
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:10,830
who have second homes here and as a result we haven't grown the official population

695
00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:14,790
but we have the people at different points of the year who are with us.

696
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:21,690
But setting that part aside, it struck me like it's very interesting that the town of

697
00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:25,530
Leeds just went through 20 years where very little changed.

698
00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:28,190
the population is about where it was.

699
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:30,690
And as we look forward to the next 20 years,

700
00:52:30,850 --> 00:52:33,530
I think we would probably look forward to it the same way

701
00:52:33,850 --> 00:52:36,630
that the plan was being developed

702
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:40,790
back 20 years ago where the population was estimated

703
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:45,250
at 5,488 in 2025.

704
00:52:46,090 --> 00:52:49,810
We also were estimated to have 1,800 homes.

705
00:52:50,770 --> 00:52:54,110
Now the current plan in silver cliffs alone

706
00:52:54,110 --> 00:53:01,190
is 716 new homes. We have Silver Creek which is the Sitla land that is another

707
00:53:01,190 --> 00:53:07,250
45 homes. There's the portion I mentioned that they are looking to annex in.

708
00:53:07,770 --> 00:53:12,630
That's another 25 homes. The point being we're probably headed to where our

709
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:17,970
plan may not look all that different 20 years ago in terms of our starting point

710
00:53:17,970 --> 00:53:23,390
and also where we may likely end up to be. But it is going to be something that we

711
00:53:23,390 --> 00:53:30,130
need to as a town back in the last town council there was a presentation done

712
00:53:30,130 --> 00:53:34,830
regarding the parks impact fee and that was viewed as kind of the easier

713
00:53:34,830 --> 00:53:42,730
was our park impact fee is currently $1300 per new resident bill and our roads

714
00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:50,590
impact fee is $3,295 per resident's bill. It doesn't apply to any kind of

715
00:53:50,590 --> 00:53:52,490
modifications to an existing home.

716
00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:55,750
It's only new construction of a new item there.

717
00:53:56,290 --> 00:53:59,650
There's also a rate per square foot for commercial

718
00:53:59,650 --> 00:54:01,230
on both of those.

719
00:54:01,850 --> 00:54:04,410
So that varies depending on the size of the commercial.

720
00:54:06,010 --> 00:54:08,210
So these things we're going to need to update.

721
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:11,570
It's similar to what was mentioned with cemeteries.

722
00:54:11,570 --> 00:54:13,670
I don't think we're looking for the answers tonight,

723
00:54:14,090 --> 00:54:17,830
but rather to just introduce the general situations

724
00:54:17,830 --> 00:54:27,790
We have if you go to the town website on the actual page for ordinances what you will see are links

725
00:54:28,450 --> 00:54:37,850
To both the roadways capital facility plan and the parks one as well and those are the things we'll be needing to update

726
00:54:37,850 --> 00:54:47,570
And I think we need to do it in the next few months here the thing that I think is encouraging frequently to talk about a very expensive and prolonged planning process

727
00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:50,790
us to go through where might we be 20 years from now.

728
00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:55,850
I think we have a bit of a starting point from what was said 20 years ago and the fact

729
00:54:55,850 --> 00:55:01,670
that we've stood very still for those 20 years here, but not expecting it's going

730
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:02,850
to be the same going forward.

731
00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:07,790
So unless somebody else from council has something they want to add, I wasn't looking

732
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:12,370
to take it further than that, but I thought it important to share a little bit of that information

733
00:55:12,370 --> 00:55:14,390
to get our flood process started.

734
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:18,050
I just want to clarification from my own mind.

735
00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:20,990
So we have one, and we're going to update it.

736
00:55:21,450 --> 00:55:24,130
And what you're suggesting, Wayne, is that,

737
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:28,530
because we really haven't grown that much,

738
00:55:29,230 --> 00:55:31,830
we're just going to use our existing one as a base

739
00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:34,570
and not do a full blown down in the weeds,

740
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:38,810
spend a bunch of money to get that done.

741
00:55:39,070 --> 00:55:42,350
My understanding is that they looked at things like traffic

742
00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:44,950
estimates for what was going to be generated

743
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:50,550
by the growth. One of the major projects was old highway 91 north of

744
00:55:50,550 --> 00:55:56,250
silvery road out to highway or 900 north, which is the road that leads into

745
00:55:56,250 --> 00:56:02,190
silver cliffs. That is going to be impacted by the 700-600. So a lot of the

746
00:56:02,190 --> 00:56:07,330
things that are identified, in no way just want to say, oh, yeah. But if you look

747
00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:12,750
at them, you're going to probably say a lot of them match up pretty well with what's

748
00:56:12,750 --> 00:56:16,070
what's happening, where the people are going to be, and what the impact is going to be.

749
00:56:16,310 --> 00:56:22,470
Yeah, we need to read through the whole thing, but we don't need to do full-blown traffic

750
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:24,110
studies and traffic studies.

751
00:56:24,910 --> 00:56:34,190
So each of these areas, so where this is specifying 2000 and 2006, this is specifying, you

752
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:40,910
know, all these numbers in this section, this will then be retooled to represent the next

753
00:56:40,910 --> 00:56:46,850
20 years. Right. And where this table says 1990 to 2025, you're going to start in 2026 and then

754
00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:52,590
and 10-year increments. We probably give a little bit of past history like that one did, but yes,

755
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:59,670
include the 2006 to 2025. And then disvalidate that those numbers are, you know, update those numbers.

756
00:56:59,890 --> 00:57:05,810
Yes. And then the the traffic study they did, you doubt did to potentially do the interchange,

757
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:11,550
was is that documentation valid as far as it's available and we need to look at

758
00:57:11,550 --> 00:57:15,670
that I don't come prepared with all the answers it was just kind of raising the

759
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:19,370
question yeah and I just wanted to make clarify that we're not going to go in

760
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:26,990
depth expecting our general just went out my brain yeah I'm just an old general

761
00:57:26,990 --> 00:57:35,760
fine no the the document that says hey here's our vision and general plan yes so

762
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,240
So I'd rather spend a little bit more time on that one versus this one.

763
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,420
Right, but this one I think we need to update in order to continue to charge the fees.

764
00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:50,760
And the one thing that I do believe has changed substantially is the cost of building a mile of road.

765
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:52,740
I'm sure that went way up.

766
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:59,680
So it's not going to be a complete match and it's going to definitely change things in the end with regard to that.

767
00:58:00,380 --> 00:58:02,440
So I have a couple of comments that I could make up for.

768
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:02,840
Certainly.

769
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,080
And I know I'm talking a lot and I apologize for that, but a couple of comments.

770
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,300
I think that if we redo the whole traffic plan, we'll get the same wrong answer, because

771
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:14,700
we're not including the right factor factors in there.

772
00:58:14,780 --> 00:58:16,780
We're not including job growth in the area.

773
00:58:17,140 --> 00:58:21,040
We're not including the impact of partial resonance.

774
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:26,540
It turns out if we give zero credit to people that have a house, but that's a second home,

775
00:58:26,860 --> 00:58:27,400
that's wrong.

776
00:58:27,740 --> 00:58:28,460
It shouldn't be zero.

777
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,820
It should be something more than zero.

778
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:36,080
And really, if we get a job boom, I don't know whether we will or won't, we are situating

779
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,660
in a good position to start this part of St. George because we've got proximity to Cedars

780
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:42,420
City and proximity to St. George.

781
00:58:43,060 --> 00:58:44,060
And who knows?

782
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,220
We could get a bit of a job growth.

783
00:58:45,380 --> 00:58:48,280
That will change things dramatically, independent of the traffic pattern.

784
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,480
The other thought is the intersection.

785
00:58:51,860 --> 00:58:56,060
The intersection is one of those crazy things where, if you build it, they will come.

786
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,580
In other words, if you put that intersection in independent traffic patterns, you'll get

787
00:59:00,580 --> 00:59:05,520
a ton of growth and it will happen with that intersection. If you don't put it in, you

788
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:11,360
won't get that growth, right? And so to disconnect those two thought processes is wrong headed

789
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:17,440
in my mind. So those are three things that kind of come to my mind with this deal. Zero credit

790
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,460
for part-timers, the impact of job growth, and then the intersection.

791
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,360
Okay.

792
00:59:26,260 --> 00:59:31,240
All right. I will circulate additional information and we should expect to see it

793
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:38,540
I don't think it's a one and quickly done, but I agree we should spend more time on the general plan.

794
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:45,560
One of the roads question, that section of road was paid what, $1,600, $3,000 for it to repay.

795
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,100
We have, we have a responsibility for it, but we have no act next property and next to it.

796
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,120
Let's get in the account of our community.

797
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,600
I don't want to keep paying money on a road that doesn't matter to me.

798
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,980
Well, there's the question I want to ask.

799
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,860
You suggest, Jeff, is whether or not our boundaries might move up to actually. It's fine. I'll pay for it when we move our boundaries, right? I mean, it's kind of nuts, isn't it? I'm not sure the county, the county is so benevolent to want to just take over the cost of every piece of road. We, we, we don't want to. This is special. This road has no business being deleted. Is that right? There was a mistake made. And we annexed the road without annexing it.

800
01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:36,800
the property around. There is some property. You're looking at the very small area at the top

801
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,740
edge of the white blue. There is land, it happens to be BLM1. As the people living there, there

802
01:00:41,740 --> 01:00:50,820
happens to be BLM1. Right, no, I understand that. One other thing I will just bring up and I will

803
01:00:51,980 --> 01:00:57,840
probably end up hearing from the Tokerville mayor about this. But should we decide to just give it away,

804
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:03,860
They may decide to just take it and the boundary of Togerville may move in closer than you would like to see

805
01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:06,300
as a result of that decision.

806
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,000
I don't know.

807
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:15,140
It really hurts my feelings to be paying money out that I really don't feel like I should be paying one.

808
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,920
The distance between that little section and the green section down here below you're all counting stuff, right?

809
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:32,080
Okay, all right. Any further comments or points to raise regarding 10B? All right, 10C,

810
01:01:32,260 --> 01:01:40,000
encroachment ordinances, inclusion of landscaping in town right of way. I was contacted by the

811
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:47,360
The developer of Avalon Sky, who asked me to look into this, are existing encroachment

812
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:54,180
ordnance, which we were actually making some changes to earlier.

813
01:01:54,660 --> 01:02:03,620
Has a section now in subsection 4, actually it's in our land use and it's considered to

814
01:02:03,620 --> 01:02:10,500
be chapter four, which is kind of other, what is it? Land use or an

815
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:15,060
inception for landscaping in a public right of white. It says prior to the

816
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:18,400
installation of landscaping within the public right of way and encroachment

817
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,540
permit from the appropriate public authority owning or controlling such

818
01:02:22,540 --> 01:02:26,360
right of way, shall be submitted with the landscape plan maintenance,

819
01:02:26,620 --> 01:02:30,140
including weed control of landscaping installed within the public right of

820
01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:34,920
way she'll be the responsibility of the installer owner or a lessy contractor.

821
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:44,260
This is something that I think is a reasonable approach that the town took when they put

822
01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:45,240
this into the ordinance.

823
01:02:45,820 --> 01:02:53,160
It doesn't say we're mandatory required to allow people to plant and irrigate on town property,

824
01:02:53,620 --> 01:02:58,300
but it says if they submit an encroachment permit, we can review it, consider it and decide

825
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:04,720
if it actually makes sense. In this instance where they plan on irrigating on their property

826
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:12,060
is not far from this island that exists in the middle of Majestic Mountain Road. We're not looking

827
01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:19,400
again, this is not on for action tonight but I wanted some input from the council because it is

828
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:25,660
I believe an administrative act and that is something that normally we're just handled but it's

829
01:03:25,660 --> 01:03:26,940
It's a little different from anything

830
01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:28,520
that I've ever seen before.

831
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,880
I don't know of any other area

832
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,320
where we have had people with an encroachment permit

833
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,800
and landscaping and putting irrigation in.

834
01:03:36,420 --> 01:03:40,160
So I wanted council to share with me either here now

835
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:42,840
or call me up and speak with me

836
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,220
because I think it is in our ordinance already.

837
01:03:45,860 --> 01:03:48,380
But I wanna make sure that the view

838
01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:49,840
that I've stated with regard

839
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,040
to them being in a better position than we are.

840
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,100
And with us retaining the right at any time

841
01:03:55,100 --> 01:04:00,040
to say we're going to eliminate those islands. We need it for a road. We're not pleased

842
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,000
with the way you're maintaining it. It said you would be responsible for maintaining it.

843
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,580
We're going to eliminate it because it's a fire hazard. Whatever the circumstances might be,

844
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,620
it's still the town's property. We would make it clear going in that that it would remain the

845
01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:18,400
town's property. But to the extent they wanted to look to beautify it and maintain it,

846
01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:24,080
I'm inclined to let somebody have the opportunity if they have a reasonable means to do it. In this

847
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:29,600
case water is an important part to do so. But I didn't want to just have it popping

848
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:35,840
up and have people saying how did that ever happen. So it's a first time. If we're

849
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,880
in agreement, we can move forward again. There's a lot of stuff in these discussions. It doesn't

850
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,680
have to be, we're not voting on anything tonight. But if there is something that you want

851
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,920
to share here publicly with me on that, please do. If you want to share it with me after

852
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,140
you thought about it some more, please do that as well.

853
01:04:53,580 --> 01:04:57,700
Are they submitting a proposal for their landscape plan?

854
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:00,420
Meaning, we want to maintain this.

855
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,860
I would request that they would provide in that

856
01:05:03,860 --> 01:05:07,060
a description of what they are planning on putting there,

857
01:05:07,340 --> 01:05:09,400
what irrigation they plan on putting there.

858
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,140
And presumably how they're going to get that irrigation line,

859
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,140
I guess they could potentially shoot it

860
01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:18,680
under the pavement or they might need an encroachment permit

861
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:19,800
to go into our pavement.

862
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:30,640
Yeah, because no matter where they come from, they've got to come from somewhere, it's all covered, so it's all surrounded by pavement.

863
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:35,340
Correct. You got to go under the pavement or remove the pavement and then replace the pavement.

864
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,800
So is this something where if we looked out from 30,000 foot, we'd have a different point of view,

865
01:05:39,820 --> 01:05:43,560
and what I'm saying is, it seems like there's a couple of options that we could do here.

866
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,740
One is we could say, fine, you're able to do that.

867
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:51,500
But the risk there is that there's some legal precedent that says if they do it for so

868
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:54,560
many years, pretty soon, they own it, and it doesn't matter what we think, right?

869
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,660
The second one is you say, if they really want it, and we're not using it, why don't we

870
01:05:59,660 --> 01:06:04,620
just sell it in the land or trade them for another piece of land that we'd rather have.

871
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:08,940
But having these little nuggets spread around, it's not very beneficial.

872
01:06:09,340 --> 01:06:10,300
Well, it's not really a problem.

873
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:11,880
It is in the middle of a street.

874
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:16,540
Yeah, it's not in the middle of a street anyway, I don't know if you know the history of

875
01:06:16,540 --> 01:06:21,160
that one? Well I can tell you and I don't know that I think Susan you certainly would remember

876
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:28,560
there used to be an Eagle statue that was there made out of metal I'm not sure what

877
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:34,840
the metal was I never saw it and I've heard a variety so it got stolen is what I've heard

878
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:40,700
in the end I've heard it was stolen replaced and stolen or stolen returned and stolen but

879
01:06:40,700 --> 01:06:47,200
it ended up in the stolen list by the time it was done so in this case it's

880
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,080
not a piece of land that's strange that it was put in the middle of the road

881
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,000
there and I think we ought to think long and hard going forward about the

882
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:59,060
great value of that in terms of for the exact reason what are we going to be

883
01:06:59,060 --> 01:07:03,920
doing with it once it's going to cost but if they wanted to do it inside the

884
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,160
developments boundaries that's another story my point how many of those islands do

885
01:07:08,860 --> 01:07:17,220
It's the only one that I know is that it's surrounded by all the way up to Wells Fargo there's a little triangle.

886
01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:18,200
Oh yeah, the triangle.

887
01:07:19,060 --> 01:07:20,280
The one you don't want to cut the tree down.

888
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,060
Okay.

889
01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:22,300
That one.

890
01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:23,160
That's a part.

891
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:25,860
Yeah, we can call it as a part.

892
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,720
Well, a lot of people go on the other side and use that as a part.

893
01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:30,360
There's a little picnic table.

894
01:07:30,420 --> 01:07:31,700
There's a little picnic table in there.

895
01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:34,440
There was a fountain there, but I think that got shut off.

896
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:46,380
All right, so if by next meeting I I haven't heard back I will assume I've gotten the input and

897
01:07:46,380 --> 01:07:51,900
We will look to get that plan from them and move through it as an administrative function

898
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:59,900
Okay, brings us to staff reports beginning on my right Aaron anything this evening. I nothing the wine won't report

899
01:08:00,940 --> 01:08:02,220
Okay, Chris

900
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,220
It's been a minute since we had this meeting, so the meetings that I've attended were

901
01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:12,320
Washington County Water Conservancy District.

902
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:21,820
Silverclose was discussed for water rates and cloud closets made sure to bring up the

903
01:08:21,820 --> 01:08:27,220
fact that Silverclose is a part of a special service district and leads will not retail

904
01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:33,100
the water which we like to hear that that's that's a statement to be had. The

905
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:36,900
other thing that was brought up that's pertinent to our neighborhood is the

906
01:08:36,900 --> 01:08:42,800
Angel Springs situation which is which is very concerning to the residents of

907
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:48,180
Adenville Springs with their water their water quality the county was in they

908
01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:52,840
were out Washington County Conservancy District is also in and out and

909
01:08:52,840 --> 01:09:01,680
Nobody's willing to step in and make decisions and support the 89 residents who have water in that area.

910
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:08,180
So as an ongoing conversation that will play out, I'm sure, in some manner.

911
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:15,140
Planning Commission, there was a topic of the furrow springs development.

912
01:09:15,380 --> 01:09:17,760
At least they didn't name it something silver something.

913
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:26,220
It's called Furrow Springs, it's just south of the pump station, but north of the other

914
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:34,300
development that was proposed was 14.81 units per acre, 24 units per building, 180 units

915
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:44,540
total of one, two, or three bedroom apartments in large buildings, and so look forward to

916
01:09:44,540 --> 01:09:52,920
but there has been some action on that that may or may not make it happen so we'll keep our eyes on that.

917
01:09:53,660 --> 01:10:04,860
LDWA, the takeaway from that meeting was if there are permits pulled for any reason for development that LDWA needs to be notified.

918
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:08,820
And I know there's a checklist and if there's not a checklist, we need a checklist.

919
01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:27,800
and we need to make sure the line of communication is open for building permits and all the things that LDW presents, it would be nice if there was a room full of people to say thank you for doing all they do to keep our water safe.

920
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:37,900
All the valves replaced, all the work that's done miraculously by one or two or three individuals is quite amazing.

921
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:48,700
And when you sit in another meeting and look at the pained look on the faces of people whose water quality and pressure and future is all minimal.

922
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:54,840
And there's no, they don't have hope for it. Then you kind of say thank you to all things of the WA.

923
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:03,900
Another planning commission meeting talked about utopia that's fiber optic right and they're

924
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:08,920
building a little switching station which will conform to all the aesthetics which was

925
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,020
the most important thing.

926
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:16,860
One of the things circling back to the furrow springs development, if you see you know there's

927
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:23,560
that pond above that the main concern was how to protect the kids from the apartment building

928
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:31,640
to the pond that wasn't fenced or protected by any other manner from exploring that little

929
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,500
neighborhood up there.

930
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:38,220
The other thing was interesting, there was a big discussion about somebody wanting

931
01:11:38,220 --> 01:11:40,040
to do a treatment center in a neighborhood.

932
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:47,200
There was probably a lot of citizen pushback, and the attorney made it point to make sure

933
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:53,760
you knew that neighborhood opposition and any clamor is not a reason to disapprove

934
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:54,860
the request.

935
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,540
So don't go up there and make a big fuss because it's still going to be a privilege.

936
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:08,340
But that had nothing to do with us in New Harmony, but there was clamor that nobody got

937
01:12:08,340 --> 01:12:09,200
satisfaction on.

938
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:10,820
That's all.

939
01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:11,660
Jeff?

940
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,640
You have anything in front of you?

941
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,920
We've already talked about the same shows that I've been covering that.

942
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:20,240
The two other areas that I've been involved with is solid waste that I'm going to have for

943
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:20,500
the bill.

944
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:22,220
Take your trigger after the bill.

945
01:12:22,340 --> 01:12:24,640
It's a marvelous place and it's changing every day.

946
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,640
And then I've been involved with the mosquito abatement.

947
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,200
Anybody to get bitten by mosquitoes?

948
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,080
So they're abating them.

949
01:12:34,700 --> 01:12:35,760
One thing I'll say.

950
01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:37,660
Can you add the nats in on that?

951
01:12:39,220 --> 01:12:40,980
and I'd have to have my wife outside.

952
01:12:41,180 --> 01:12:44,660
Okay, but if you see a mosquito issue,

953
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:46,640
and if you start getting bites,

954
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,500
they want to know about it.

955
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:50,360
They'll take care of mosquitoes in there.

956
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:54,760
You've got a still water around or you've got swampy areas,

957
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,960
those are perfect breeding routes.

958
01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:57,900
Surprisingly, in St. George,

959
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,680
they like to breed in the sewer.

960
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,060
So, you know, we're very mosquito free,

961
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:05,900
and we stay that way,

962
01:13:06,020 --> 01:13:07,480
because these people are working their guts off

963
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:10,020
to make sure that we don't have any malware.

964
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:17,260
Yeah, the West Nile is increasing, I guess, like, 35% of the mosquitoes in the state have

965
01:13:17,260 --> 01:13:17,800
less than that.

966
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:17,940
Yeah.

967
01:13:19,060 --> 01:13:23,080
So be aware of that and be aware that you don't have their number, give me a call and

968
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,860
I'll get you connected up with them, their first class active.

969
01:13:26,500 --> 01:13:33,700
One thing that was brought to our attention about Harrisburg in terms of their dumpsters

970
01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:39,060
and they're they want to make sure that nobody thinks that those are for

971
01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:45,480
leads people but but but and I said you know I don't know if leads people are

972
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:48,960
coming to dump their dumps they're trash in your dumpsters they're in

973
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,340
Harrisburg but they're right out there in the open and there's a lot of

974
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:58,320
sand hollow that's a quite like people that come by but she wanted me to to

975
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:03,520
remind everybody that in case anybody who's listening that's not a public

976
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:08,800
dumpster and police. You'll be on camera and your face will be plastered into the H.O.A.

977
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,380
office if you go dump your dumb trash and a Harrisburg.

978
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,920
It's a big deal throughout the county. Yeah. It turns out that we have two kinds of

979
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,720
garbage disposal systems here. We have trucks that run around and gather it up and we have dump

980
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:26,180
stations and almost every small community has at least one of those two types of things.

981
01:14:26,580 --> 01:14:31,200
We're blessed here that we have trucks that actually come to our homes and pick it all up. A lot of

982
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,280
places don't have that kind of capability.

983
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,440
And they struggle with people, especially part-timers.

984
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:40,380
This is why we check part-timers as zero.

985
01:14:40,820 --> 01:14:41,540
They're not zero.

986
01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:46,020
They use our resources and they're better than all of us.

987
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,000
So thank you very much, this thing.

988
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,080
And by the way, Kudos to Christine.

989
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,600
I love the chilling drills.

990
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:53,920
And there's another one coming up.

991
01:14:53,980 --> 01:14:56,060
I think you mentioned it on the 21st.

992
01:14:56,140 --> 01:14:56,840
It's got the word.

993
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,500
Okay, um

994
01:15:00,110 --> 01:15:28,710
A couple things to add. Redcliffe's road is a non paved road. There was some damages you get right by Main Street. I'm going to be contacting the Water Conservancy District, checking with individuals who had knowledge of it. It wasn't that way before the construction of that station there. So we're going to contact them and ask them to address it. I also spoke to the county about that and the rest of the road and asked what their plans were for it.

995
01:15:28,710 --> 01:15:35,090
And they said this autumn when it gets cooler and they hope a little bit damper in terms of the water content of the ground

996
01:15:35,090 --> 01:15:38,730
They plan on coming to put a blade to the whole stretch

997
01:15:38,730 --> 01:15:42,550
And they said they'll do the town's portion as well while they have the equipment there

998
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:47,770
And if there's a need for some additional material they'll also bring that in and truck it in

999
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:56,870
So they're willing to kind of be good good neighbors in the county redcliffe road is in leads when you first leave Main Street

1000
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:59,770
and then it's in the county and then it's in leads and then it's in the county.

1001
01:16:00,150 --> 01:16:03,550
It just bounces back and forth as it follows its way through there.

1002
01:16:04,090 --> 01:16:08,970
And we have tried always in the past that I'm aware of, coordinate with the county on

1003
01:16:08,970 --> 01:16:13,850
it, and the county because of their share of it has been very good to just say, you know

1004
01:16:13,850 --> 01:16:16,430
what, there's no need for us to lift the blade and drop it.

1005
01:16:16,510 --> 01:16:18,390
We'll just take care of it all the way through.

1006
01:16:19,390 --> 01:16:25,230
The other one is that there's going to be a meeting or two coming up in September with

1007
01:16:25,230 --> 01:16:31,670
Rocky Mountain Power. There is a high-voltage transmission line known as the three peaks to

1008
01:16:31,670 --> 01:16:37,990
purgatory transmission line. If one goes online and looks at the information, it comes

1009
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:44,830
nowhere near leads. However, their most recent two preferred paths have it coming all the way

1010
01:16:44,830 --> 01:16:52,230
through leads. So we are going to be in communication and I would offer a thank you to the Tuckerville

1011
01:16:52,230 --> 01:16:59,630
mayor who first made me aware of it when they were contacted and had a meeting and he said

1012
01:16:59,630 --> 01:17:04,090
this is going to be impacting both of us. What I'm going to be doing between now is

1013
01:17:04,090 --> 01:17:08,970
Pember is trying to coordinate with the Tokerville mayor. It doesn't make sense for us to get into

1014
01:17:08,970 --> 01:17:13,450
a pushing war where we push it towards Tokerville and Tokerville pushes it towards us.

1015
01:17:14,290 --> 01:17:18,410
I'm not saying we're going to come up with the final route but I hope we can come up with a

1016
01:17:18,410 --> 01:17:22,490
starting talking point that seems to be reasonable and fair that everybody

1017
01:17:22,490 --> 01:17:26,990
involved gets the power to where the power needs to be without destroying the

1018
01:17:26,990 --> 01:17:33,730
natural beauty of the town of leads. I like the plan on the internet that has

1019
01:17:33,730 --> 01:17:38,530
nowhere near the town of leads but I'm not sure we just get to have what I like so

1020
01:17:38,530 --> 01:17:44,090
there will be more information coming forward on that but the town's aware of it

1021
01:17:44,090 --> 01:17:47,970
I'm aware of it and we're going to work with the appropriate people to make

1022
01:17:47,970 --> 01:17:52,890
sure that the voices are heard. It doesn't mean they're going to listen to us and do everything we want,

1023
01:17:53,070 --> 01:17:58,390
but just as was the case with that corridor for higher density development in the county,

1024
01:17:58,850 --> 01:18:05,610
we didn't get everything we wanted, but we made it less unpalatable for the tenderings.

1025
01:18:06,150 --> 01:18:15,250
So why do we need to take a look at each camp capsule of the number of building permits that have

1026
01:18:15,250 --> 01:18:16,890
and extended each two weeks.

1027
01:18:17,650 --> 01:18:19,270
Would that be beneficial for us as a council?

1028
01:18:19,550 --> 01:18:21,110
We certainly could circulate that.

1029
01:18:21,190 --> 01:18:22,950
If everybody would like, we could have carried it.

1030
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:24,770
So we're not going to say to me, is what's that?

1031
01:18:25,010 --> 01:18:25,910
What would the benefit be?

1032
01:18:26,270 --> 01:18:28,510
The benefit would be that I think it would help

1033
01:18:28,510 --> 01:18:32,110
to morale un-certified building by me taking out.

1034
01:18:32,370 --> 01:18:34,110
Take care, we see what's going on in the room.

1035
01:18:34,230 --> 01:18:35,510
The house is in the building going on.

1036
01:18:35,850 --> 01:18:37,550
I assume they've all got building permits,

1037
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:39,930
but I can't guarantee they all have building permits.

1038
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:46,030
And I would hope that you have those options, right?

1039
01:18:46,850 --> 01:18:49,850
So if we're not, if wouldn't that be our ordinance officer checking?

1040
01:18:50,010 --> 01:18:50,490
What was it?

1041
01:18:51,010 --> 01:18:56,190
Well, and the other thing that works is the county does a lot of aerial photography.

1042
01:18:57,010 --> 01:19:01,690
I'm not sure it's every year, every other year, and I will check into the aerial photography.

1043
01:19:02,230 --> 01:19:08,930
But it is very helpful and they will make a community aware of what they believe to be unreported.

1044
01:19:08,930 --> 01:19:17,210
reported development taking place so it's the most up today we've got hundreds

1045
01:19:17,210 --> 01:19:20,390
of building permits being released every month I don't want to see that but if

1046
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:23,650
we've got 10 a week or 10 a month or something like that maybe it would be

1047
01:19:23,650 --> 01:19:29,650
worthwhile for us to see it to see what's going on in our community make us more

1048
01:19:29,650 --> 01:19:33,190
aware of where development is taking place and it would make us aware of where

1049
01:19:33,190 --> 01:19:36,590
development is taking place that is not being covered by some buildings so

1050
01:19:36,590 --> 01:19:43,030
So the intent would be because so the building permits should come through or plan a commission, right?

1051
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:45,310
They do not review individual

1052
01:19:46,270 --> 01:19:49,210
To administrative so they've heard the office

1053
01:19:50,030 --> 01:19:57,170
Okay, I think that's a good idea. I don't see where it hurts anything to share that information and it can help

1054
01:19:57,170 --> 01:20:00,650
So I think it's a good idea to share the spreadsheet. That's easy not to do

1055
01:20:03,570 --> 01:20:09,530
We're just looking to see who's two in the building, we're not using it to find people

1056
01:20:09,530 --> 01:20:13,370
who are building something that they should not be building.

1057
01:20:13,790 --> 01:20:19,210
If I'm going to put a bar in up, I probably have to get a building to put that bar in.

1058
01:20:20,770 --> 01:20:23,410
It also tells us where some building is taking place.

1059
01:20:23,810 --> 01:20:27,350
I have no clue how many buildings should get some months we're putting out.

1060
01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:28,570
I'd like to know that.

1061
01:20:28,570 --> 01:20:30,970
and where those buildings are taking place out.

1062
01:20:31,970 --> 01:20:34,130
It gets back to the question of rooftops.

1063
01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:38,470
We are not seeing a rooftop growth consistent

1064
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:41,010
with population growth, right?

1065
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:43,790
That should cause us a certain amount of concern,

1066
01:20:44,130 --> 01:20:47,910
because we're not getting tax benefit based on rooftops.

1067
01:20:48,010 --> 01:20:49,770
We actually grew rooftops, though,

1068
01:20:49,870 --> 01:20:50,890
without growing population.

1069
01:20:50,890 --> 01:20:51,530
That's my point.

1070
01:20:52,190 --> 01:20:52,990
That's my point.

1071
01:20:53,130 --> 01:20:55,190
Well, the rooftops are paying the taxes,

1072
01:20:55,190 --> 01:20:56,850
not the population.

1073
01:20:56,850 --> 01:20:57,650
Is that right?

1074
01:20:58,090 --> 01:20:58,210
Yes.

1075
01:20:58,530 --> 01:21:00,690
Oh, I thought this population was paying the taxes.

1076
01:21:00,990 --> 01:21:01,210
No.

1077
01:21:01,570 --> 01:21:02,730
It's property taxes.

1078
01:21:02,930 --> 01:21:03,470
It's property taxes.

1079
01:21:04,190 --> 01:21:04,310
Yeah.

1080
01:21:04,990 --> 01:21:05,150
Yeah.

1081
01:21:05,690 --> 01:21:06,610
We don't put it.

1082
01:21:07,130 --> 01:21:07,830
We don't mean any.

1083
01:21:08,830 --> 01:21:09,310
Yeah.

1084
01:21:09,810 --> 01:21:10,510
Anyway, yeah.

1085
01:21:11,410 --> 01:21:12,850
I'm not against it.

1086
01:21:12,910 --> 01:21:16,270
I was just trying to figure out why he could benefit us.

1087
01:21:16,290 --> 01:21:18,090
I'm just throwing it out as a personal situation.

1088
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:25,530
I won't lose my mind over this one, but it would be something that would make you very

1089
01:21:25,530 --> 01:21:31,510
aware when a place like Silver Cliffs is ramping up. Right now we have two, I believe,

1090
01:21:31,710 --> 01:21:39,050
correct two, building permits for Silver Cliffs, but they're model home type of things, and

1091
01:21:39,050 --> 01:21:43,090
once they are able to start showing people what it's going to look like, you could turn

1092
01:21:43,090 --> 01:21:44,470
into substantially more.

1093
01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:48,090
It's like that road over there when you're headed over to that new road, headed over there

1094
01:21:48,090 --> 01:21:53,350
to Pokerville, you know, just to be just, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a yellow truck

1095
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:53,850
out there.

1096
01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:58,750
Yeah, there was a road grader at the now there's house popping up all over out there now

1097
01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:05,950
Okay, the other thing is was mentioned earlier this month. There is not a fourth Wednesday meeting

1098
01:22:05,950 --> 01:22:14,990
So just find other things you can do that you can enjoy for the 7 p.m. on where's our on the 26th of august

1099
01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:20,330
Public comment anybody from the public wish to address the town council during this second opportunity

1100
01:22:20,330 --> 01:22:21,330
Okay,

1101
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,340
if you could come up to the microphone, limit the initial comments to a few minutes.

1102
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,660
And if you have more to say, we'll cycle back to you after others have had a chance to speak.

1103
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:45,540
Yeah, I just wanted to clarify the trip in front of our property, like it is, the town

1104
01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:46,300
kingdom.

1105
01:22:46,540 --> 01:22:47,220
Maybe Carl.

1106
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,020
The Carl Jackson.

1107
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:48,720
Yeah.

1108
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:56,220
So the the planter in front of the property that was I believe I understand that is like the property owner's

1109
01:22:56,220 --> 01:22:57,920
responsibility to maintain that

1110
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,310
Landscaping is that landscaping need a

1111
01:23:02,060 --> 01:23:02,900
preventer approval

1112
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:06,360
from the town for us what to put there

1113
01:23:07,580 --> 01:23:12,000
Bush's cactus rocks whatever it's trip a dirt between the sidewalk and the road

1114
01:23:13,580 --> 01:23:14,960
It's a park strip

1115
01:23:16,820 --> 01:23:22,340
and that is something that I would say I will need to look into just to see

1116
01:23:22,340 --> 01:23:27,540
what language is there but I don't believe that that would be viewed as the

1117
01:23:27,540 --> 01:23:31,040
same thing as the encroachment but I will get back to you on that.

1118
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:31,760
Thank you.

1119
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:35,520
Anyone else from the public?

1120
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,160
Start with your name just because of the recorders.

1121
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,280
You're talking about the easement thing that people are talking about to landscape.

1122
01:23:49,460 --> 01:23:52,780
Easier way just so people don't have to go under the cement, but I was thinking it's

1123
01:23:52,780 --> 01:23:56,080
just gravel, put some boulders, so someone does ever hit it or whatever it's kind of like

1124
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,780
somewhat of a blockage thing.

1125
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:03,880
Two, the dumpsters and stuff you guys are talking about, the firewise thing that we got done

1126
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:11,160
will pay for chipping days, will pay for fun for dumpsters to come here and fun for clean

1127
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:15,960
updates and stuff like that. So just so you guys are aware of that. So I don't

1128
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,640
need to understand that a little bit more detail. We already have biannual dumpster

1129
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,840
days, quarterly dumpster days.

1130
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:27,420
Can we get more dumpsters coming out to do

1131
01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:30,740
community dumping? Yeah, absolutely. So who did is that paid for?

1132
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:37,000
Is that just covered by the county? Oh, okay. Yeah. So it shows on this, and then a

1133
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,320
couple weeks when I do, when I talk about it, I'll have more of a thing for you guys,

1134
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,640
but it does see that we can get funding for, like I said,

1135
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,160
shipping days, more dumpsters, et cetera.

1136
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,720
So as far as I know, I've seen the dumpsters down here.

1137
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:53,880
So one area that I've, and I pull in and I've talked about this,

1138
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,720
there is encroachment in the freight, in the site,

1139
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,740
in the roads of rubbish coming in.

1140
01:24:59,980 --> 01:25:00,640
Brush it coming in?

1141
01:25:00,740 --> 01:25:00,820
Yeah.

1142
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,100
Can we brush hog to that?

1143
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:03,620
And will it help pay for that?

1144
01:25:03,740 --> 01:25:06,540
But that seems like a pretty good fire issue, 100% yet.

1145
01:25:06,660 --> 01:25:09,840
So they, as an assessor, like a wildfire

1146
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,720
mitigation specialist which is being and then they'll have another one come from

1147
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:17,280
the state and we kind of find areas where like okay this needs to be assessed but

1148
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,780
yes those are huge because for chains on trailers or if someone looks to

1149
01:25:21,780 --> 01:25:26,480
cigarette that's like that should all be clear no matter what and knock around

1150
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:29,540
here and it's a safety deal because people walk on the streets and they're kind of

1151
01:25:29,540 --> 01:25:32,920
forced right on in the track and I don't know if you guys see in Navy but it's

1152
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:38,360
silver reef up there Alvarado and stuff like the road is this big but you're

1153
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,620
driving in a road this big, because the brush is kind of back, but it's pretty bad.

1154
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,160
That wasn't you.

1155
01:25:44,380 --> 01:25:47,700
Just letting me know that, yes, that will eventually be able to be funded.

1156
01:25:48,260 --> 01:25:53,060
But that's what grants and funding is for, is to help prevent wildfires.

1157
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:58,420
So a lot of people can't really get out and go do their own yard and stuff like that,

1158
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:02,320
or they can't help putting money for the big creeks and stuff.

1159
01:26:02,420 --> 01:26:05,500
So that's just basically a little bit of funding that we're supposed to get.

1160
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:08,340
and I'll have more information on that in a few minutes, but I just want to ask about that.

1161
01:26:10,020 --> 01:26:13,240
Okay, thank you. Anyone further from the public?

1162
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:25,620
Okay, seeing none, there is no need for a closed session this evening, so it is 8.27 p.m. and we are adjourned.

1163
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:29,040
Thank you everyone for coming. Enjoy the rest of the August month here.