1 00:00:06,095 --> 00:00:07,625 Good morning, happy New Year. 2 00:00:08,845 --> 00:00:10,705 I'd like to bring the January 5th meeting 3 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:12,545 of the Nor County Commissioners to order. 4 00:00:12,725 --> 00:00:17,145 At this time, we'll have our invocation, uh, led 5 00:00:17,165 --> 00:00:19,865 by Dr. Harris, and we'll have our Pledge 6 00:00:19,865 --> 00:00:21,785 of Allegiance led by Mac Doherty. 7 00:00:22,565 --> 00:00:26,025 Uh, and in doing our invocation this morning, 8 00:00:26,045 --> 00:00:30,065 of course we're going to be, remember Roland missed, um, 9 00:00:30,205 --> 00:00:32,185 who passed during the holidays, 10 00:00:32,245 --> 00:00:34,305 and so please keep, continue 11 00:00:34,305 --> 00:00:36,225 to keep his family in your prayers 12 00:00:36,825 --> 00:00:38,505 'cause we are surely going to miss him. 13 00:00:39,655 --> 00:00:40,655 Okay? 14 00:00:41,045 --> 00:00:45,105 As we bow our heads all wise, eternal God, our Father, 15 00:00:45,285 --> 00:00:49,145 we are thankful that you brought us to this, a brand new day 16 00:00:49,525 --> 00:00:50,665 and a brand new year. 17 00:00:51,405 --> 00:00:53,545 We acknowledge, Lord, that you carried us 18 00:00:53,545 --> 00:00:54,905 through all of last year. 19 00:00:55,365 --> 00:00:58,345 So I know that with the same power you will see us 20 00:00:58,345 --> 00:01:01,745 through this year, we're remembering the family of 21 00:01:02,865 --> 00:01:05,265 Roland Best and all of those who 22 00:01:05,975 --> 00:01:09,025 were deceased in the year 2025. 23 00:01:09,845 --> 00:01:12,345 We ask now, Lord, that you would bless us in all 24 00:01:12,345 --> 00:01:13,465 of our deliberations, 25 00:01:13,935 --> 00:01:18,705 that we will do better in 2026 than we did in 2025. 26 00:01:19,605 --> 00:01:21,745 We always should make improvement. 27 00:01:22,195 --> 00:01:25,145 Bless us and we will forever give your name to praise, 28 00:01:25,725 --> 00:01:26,785 the honor and the glory. 29 00:01:26,885 --> 00:01:30,785 It shall be th in the name of our Lord and Creator we pray. 30 00:01:31,535 --> 00:01:32,545 Amen. Amen. 31 00:01:35,825 --> 00:01:40,305 A pledge to flag of the United States of America 32 00:01:41,005 --> 00:01:43,625 and to the republic for what which it stands, 33 00:01:44,405 --> 00:01:48,505 one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty 34 00:01:48,805 --> 00:01:50,105 and justice for all. 35 00:01:52,875 --> 00:01:57,185 Thank y'all. Uh, I would like 36 00:01:57,185 --> 00:02:01,625 to remind the board members of our ethics law with conflict 37 00:02:01,625 --> 00:02:04,385 of interest in accordance within the North County Board 38 00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:06,665 of Commissioners in the North Carolina General Statute 39 00:02:06,775 --> 00:02:09,785 Section 1 53 a dash 44. 40 00:02:10,325 --> 00:02:12,025 It is the duty of every member present 41 00:02:12,085 --> 00:02:13,825 to vote on all matters before the Board, 42 00:02:13,825 --> 00:02:16,585 unless there is a conflict of interest as determined 43 00:02:17,085 --> 00:02:18,665 by the board or by law. 44 00:02:19,135 --> 00:02:21,985 Does any board member have any known conflict of interest 45 00:02:21,985 --> 00:02:24,745 with respect to any matter coming before the board today? 46 00:02:26,095 --> 00:02:30,625 Okay, hearing now, we will move on under public information. 47 00:02:31,725 --> 00:02:35,785 Uh, we'd like to recognize, um, some employees 48 00:02:35,945 --> 00:02:37,025 for their years of service. 49 00:02:37,165 --> 00:02:39,665 We have a formal recognition quarterly 50 00:02:39,665 --> 00:02:40,825 where we name those folks 51 00:02:40,925 --> 00:02:42,505 and, uh, they get a little something 52 00:02:42,645 --> 00:02:43,825 for their years of service. 53 00:02:44,605 --> 00:02:47,705 But for five years we have Jordan Jones from Social 54 00:02:48,105 --> 00:02:52,625 Services, Keisha Gooding from Social Services for 15 years. 55 00:02:52,805 --> 00:02:55,585 We have Leslie Langley from Social Services, 56 00:02:56,475 --> 00:02:58,465 Patsy Sanders from Social Services 57 00:02:59,025 --> 00:03:01,725 and Crystal Rouse from Transit. 58 00:03:02,575 --> 00:03:03,725 Let's give them all a hand. 59 00:03:10,155 --> 00:03:12,245 Okay. At this time, uh, 60 00:03:15,105 --> 00:03:17,325 you need to say something he's gonna do. 61 00:03:18,235 --> 00:03:22,685 Okay. Um, we'll have a public hearing 62 00:03:22,825 --> 00:03:25,005 for proposed financing of construction 63 00:03:25,465 --> 00:03:27,045 of a new commercial shell building 64 00:03:27,065 --> 00:03:29,965 for economic development in the Nor County Industrial Park. 65 00:03:30,665 --> 00:03:34,085 And so do you need to speak first or we go in? 66 00:03:34,185 --> 00:03:36,125 You you go into the public hearing first. I'll 67 00:03:36,165 --> 00:03:37,165 Make a motion. Second. 68 00:03:37,165 --> 00:03:38,125 There's been a motion 69 00:03:38,225 --> 00:03:39,885 and a second to have the public hearing. 70 00:03:40,425 --> 00:03:43,965 All those in favor say aye. And all those opposed? Likewise. 71 00:03:44,625 --> 00:03:47,445 And we will turn it over to Mr. David Baxter, our attorney. 72 00:03:47,855 --> 00:03:49,885 Thank you Madam Chair. Good morning, commissioners. 73 00:03:50,145 --> 00:03:52,125 Uh, this is the public hearing, uh, 74 00:03:52,125 --> 00:03:54,965 for the Red Leg Economic Development Financing 75 00:03:55,065 --> 00:03:56,445 for the, uh, shell building. 76 00:03:56,985 --> 00:03:59,085 Um, this is, if you recall, this is for a, 77 00:03:59,245 --> 00:04:03,205 a pad ready project, uh, highway 70 Industrial Park, um, 78 00:04:03,395 --> 00:04:05,565 with the intent to construct a shell building 79 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:06,765 on the pad ready site. 80 00:04:07,105 --> 00:04:09,845 Uh, this board has al already approved the design build 81 00:04:09,845 --> 00:04:11,365 process for the Shell Building. 82 00:04:11,625 --> 00:04:13,285 Um, you did that a few meetings ago. 83 00:04:13,745 --> 00:04:16,405 Uh, the staff is initiating the design build selection 84 00:04:16,405 --> 00:04:19,645 process of the design builder, uh, necessary for, uh, 85 00:04:19,885 --> 00:04:21,445 approval with the local government commission. 86 00:04:21,825 --> 00:04:24,245 Uh, the source of these funds is a red leg loan. 87 00:04:24,345 --> 00:04:26,045 Uh, it's administered by the United States 88 00:04:26,045 --> 00:04:27,125 Department of Agricultural. 89 00:04:27,125 --> 00:04:29,845 And it's a pass through grant through Tri-County Electric, 90 00:04:29,905 --> 00:04:31,205 uh, membership cooperative. 91 00:04:31,865 --> 00:04:33,725 Um, it provides, uh, low 92 00:04:33,725 --> 00:04:34,965 or no interest financing 93 00:04:34,965 --> 00:04:37,085 for certain economic development projects. 94 00:04:37,345 --> 00:04:40,485 Um, the general statutes require this type of financing 95 00:04:40,485 --> 00:04:42,285 to be approved by the local government commission. 96 00:04:42,705 --> 00:04:44,365 Um, and so that's kind of one 97 00:04:44,365 --> 00:04:45,485 of the reasons we're here today. 98 00:04:45,985 --> 00:04:48,365 Um, the, the financing will support, as I said, 99 00:04:48,365 --> 00:04:52,325 the construction of a a about 22,000 square foot shell 100 00:04:52,445 --> 00:04:53,605 building on the pad ready site. 101 00:04:54,145 --> 00:04:56,645 Um, a couple of things about the LGC requirements 102 00:04:56,645 --> 00:04:58,925 for this type of financing, uh, you're required 103 00:04:58,925 --> 00:05:00,885 to hold a public hearing, which you're doing right now. 104 00:05:01,145 --> 00:05:04,565 Um, and during that public hearing, uh, discuss the purpose 105 00:05:04,565 --> 00:05:06,325 of the financing, which we're doing right now. 106 00:05:07,025 --> 00:05:09,245 Uh, that it's for economic development purposes 107 00:05:09,305 --> 00:05:10,805 for the construction of the Shell building. 108 00:05:11,225 --> 00:05:13,885 Uh, after the hearing, uh, a little bit later on the agenda, 109 00:05:13,895 --> 00:05:17,485 we'll ask you to adopt a resolution affirming the financing 110 00:05:17,485 --> 00:05:20,125 that's in the public interest, the terms of the financing, 111 00:05:20,265 --> 00:05:23,365 and to allow staff to, uh, apply to the LGC 112 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:24,805 to approve this financing. 113 00:05:25,385 --> 00:05:28,045 Uh, and that a resolution is in your packet, I believe. 114 00:05:28,505 --> 00:05:29,525 Um, and as I said 115 00:05:29,525 --> 00:05:32,245 before, um, you've recently approved the design build 116 00:05:32,245 --> 00:05:34,205 process by which we'll construct this. 117 00:05:34,275 --> 00:05:36,605 This is just the financing portion, uh, 118 00:05:36,625 --> 00:05:37,805 to validate the request. 119 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:39,965 So, uh, are there any questions for me? 120 00:05:40,105 --> 00:05:41,685 Uh, that's kind of all I have on the intro. 121 00:05:42,705 --> 00:05:44,445 Is the sign up sheet still over there? 122 00:05:44,665 --> 00:05:46,245 It is. Is anybody sign there? 123 00:05:46,405 --> 00:05:47,845 I don't see any names on it, no ma'am. 124 00:05:48,155 --> 00:05:52,325 Okay. Make a motion. We go out, pull the hearing. 125 00:05:52,505 --> 00:05:53,505 Second. 126 00:05:54,185 --> 00:05:55,765 You've heard the motion and a second. 127 00:05:56,065 --> 00:05:59,405 All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? 128 00:05:59,405 --> 00:06:02,205 Likewise. Thank you. 129 00:06:03,265 --> 00:06:06,845 Is there anybody signed up for public comments? No. Okay. 130 00:06:06,855 --> 00:06:11,085 Thank you sir. Uh, under our consent agenda, 131 00:06:11,225 --> 00:06:14,365 we have items number one through 11. 132 00:06:15,105 --> 00:06:19,165 And in the new business we have items 12 through 17. 133 00:06:20,085 --> 00:06:23,005 18 is board appointments, 19 is the manager's report, 134 00:06:23,025 --> 00:06:26,005 and 20 are comments from the commissioners motion. 135 00:06:26,625 --> 00:06:28,445 Second, it's been a motion 136 00:06:28,505 --> 00:06:30,805 and a second to approve the agenda as stated. 137 00:06:31,545 --> 00:06:35,445 All those in favor say aye. And all those opposed? Likewise. 138 00:06:36,955 --> 00:06:40,045 Okay. Under new business item number 12 is a resolution 139 00:06:40,485 --> 00:06:43,605 authorizing acceptance sub tide application 140 00:06:43,665 --> 00:06:47,445 and authorizing county manager to execute the memorandum 141 00:06:47,445 --> 00:06:49,445 of understanding amongst all parties. 142 00:06:51,865 --> 00:06:53,125 And Mr. Short? 143 00:06:53,625 --> 00:06:56,805 Yes ma'am. You what? 144 00:06:56,945 --> 00:06:59,925 Uh, just a few words on the application. I wanna first, 145 00:06:59,925 --> 00:07:01,525 Would you tell 'em what Tide means? 146 00:07:01,825 --> 00:07:04,605 Yes, ma'am. I was gonna, uh, the program itself is, 147 00:07:04,705 --> 00:07:07,285 as you'll recall, is the tax incentive 148 00:07:07,305 --> 00:07:08,565 for downtown enhancement. 149 00:07:08,585 --> 00:07:11,845 We, uh, now have that program effective 150 00:07:11,845 --> 00:07:13,685 with all the municipalities in the county. 151 00:07:13,955 --> 00:07:17,085 Essentially. Um, it's a program to help, uh, 152 00:07:17,085 --> 00:07:19,405 boost job creation investment in our 153 00:07:19,645 --> 00:07:21,045 downtown districts throughout the county. 154 00:07:21,585 --> 00:07:25,485 Um, how the program works is for that, uh, additional value, 155 00:07:25,925 --> 00:07:28,885 whatever your investment is, say your present day value, 156 00:07:28,895 --> 00:07:33,245 $50,000, you invest a hundred thousand dollars, uh, for 157 00:07:33,245 --> 00:07:35,525 that new value of $150,000, 158 00:07:35,705 --> 00:07:38,645 the difference in your tax bill would effectively be granted 159 00:07:38,835 --> 00:07:41,365 back to you, uh, so long as you continue 160 00:07:41,425 --> 00:07:43,925 to hit those earmarks every year after year. 161 00:07:44,065 --> 00:07:47,365 Um, uh, today, happy to say that, uh, the town 162 00:07:47,365 --> 00:07:49,525 of La Grange has our first application 163 00:07:49,545 --> 00:07:50,805 for the board's consideration. 164 00:07:50,805 --> 00:07:55,325 Obviously, um, going forward, um, we would process this, 165 00:07:55,325 --> 00:07:57,445 make sure that the investment is appropriate, 166 00:07:57,505 --> 00:07:58,925 the job creation is appropriate, 167 00:07:58,925 --> 00:08:01,005 and then every year we would kind of audit that. 168 00:08:01,065 --> 00:08:04,405 Uh, going forward, before that grant is issued, uh, Ms. 169 00:08:04,625 --> 00:08:07,285 Tamika Moy has submitted the application 170 00:08:07,345 --> 00:08:09,365 for 1 25 South Casual Street. 171 00:08:09,865 --> 00:08:12,325 Uh, and just asking that the board bless this initial 172 00:08:12,325 --> 00:08:16,205 application and we will outline, uh, the particulars, uh, 173 00:08:16,275 --> 00:08:18,165 with the individual, with the town of LaGrange 174 00:08:18,185 --> 00:08:21,525 and the county, um, and the expectations in that MOU. 175 00:08:21,525 --> 00:08:23,885 So this will authorize the manager to execute that. 176 00:08:26,315 --> 00:08:30,445 Okay. You've heard the recommendation. Objection, approve. 177 00:08:30,665 --> 00:08:33,525 Second, and a motion to approve. Second and a second. 178 00:08:34,065 --> 00:08:35,365 Any other questions or comments? 179 00:08:36,505 --> 00:08:39,005 If not all those in favor say aye. Aye. 180 00:08:39,025 --> 00:08:40,365 And all those opposed? Likewise. 181 00:08:41,305 --> 00:08:44,685 Number 13 is a resolution authorized in filing an 182 00:08:44,685 --> 00:08:48,365 application for approval of financing arrangement authorized 183 00:08:48,385 --> 00:08:52,245 by the North Carolina general statute 1 68 dash 20 184 00:08:52,795 --> 00:08:56,765 intentively approving such financing agreement. Mr. Baxter. 185 00:08:57,425 --> 00:08:59,965 And I think I went through it quickly, 186 00:09:00,105 --> 00:09:02,005 but I think that's about all I have to say about it. 187 00:09:02,005 --> 00:09:03,285 Unless somebody's got questions for me, 188 00:09:03,405 --> 00:09:04,725 I just ask him for a motion to approve 189 00:09:05,345 --> 00:09:08,205 Any questions, move to approve. 190 00:09:08,345 --> 00:09:10,245 Second, been a motion and a second, 191 00:09:10,345 --> 00:09:11,965 or any other questions or comments? 192 00:09:13,385 --> 00:09:16,005 If not all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. 193 00:09:16,065 --> 00:09:17,685 And all those opposed? Likewise. 194 00:09:18,915 --> 00:09:22,525 Item number 14 is a resolution authorizing a request 195 00:09:22,545 --> 00:09:25,685 to increase funding for the professional services legal line 196 00:09:25,685 --> 00:09:29,125 item for a secondary DSS attorney's contract 197 00:09:29,965 --> 00:09:34,885 expenses in the amount of $62,734. Ms. Naer? 198 00:09:34,995 --> 00:09:36,525 Good morning. Good morning. 199 00:09:38,185 --> 00:09:42,325 So in September of 2024, um, the agency had about 60 200 00:09:42,385 --> 00:09:43,965 to 65 foster children. 201 00:09:44,275 --> 00:09:47,405 When I arrived here in Lenoir County, um, by September 202 00:09:47,505 --> 00:09:50,765 of this year, those numbers had almost doubled. 203 00:09:51,025 --> 00:09:53,245 Um, I checked with my administrator this morning 204 00:09:53,265 --> 00:09:56,045 and it's actually 112, um, 205 00:09:56,525 --> 00:09:58,645 children currently in foster care in Lenoir County. 206 00:09:59,625 --> 00:10:02,165 And that number continues to fluctuate up and down. 207 00:10:02,505 --> 00:10:04,965 Um, once permanency is achieved for some of our children, 208 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:07,925 um, or new children are brought into care. 209 00:10:08,515 --> 00:10:11,645 That little, um, graph there is just the number 210 00:10:11,665 --> 00:10:13,325 of child welfare court filings 211 00:10:13,435 --> 00:10:15,485 that have increased since 2022. 212 00:10:16,145 --> 00:10:18,205 As you can see in 22, 23 213 00:10:18,205 --> 00:10:21,405 and 24, those numbers state about the same. 214 00:10:21,665 --> 00:10:26,445 Um, at 295, fiscal year 25, as of September 215 00:10:26,905 --> 00:10:30,485 of last year, we had filed 432. 216 00:10:31,065 --> 00:10:33,845 So that number had drastically gone up. 217 00:10:34,385 --> 00:10:38,245 Um, I will say anytime a child is brought into foster care, 218 00:10:38,425 --> 00:10:39,885 it takes approximately five 219 00:10:39,905 --> 00:10:42,165 to six court documents that have to be filed. 220 00:10:42,165 --> 00:10:44,805 That's why that number looks a bit different, um, 221 00:10:44,955 --> 00:10:47,325 than the number of children that we have in care. 222 00:10:48,185 --> 00:10:51,645 Um, our DSS attorney also handles all 223 00:10:51,645 --> 00:10:52,965 of our adult services matters, 224 00:10:53,105 --> 00:10:55,245 and those have also gone up significantly. 225 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:59,565 Um, we currently have 22 wards and three pending hearing. 226 00:11:00,305 --> 00:11:04,245 Um, and those are adults, um, that require our care. 227 00:11:04,905 --> 00:11:08,365 So then in, and in 2024, we only had 11 wards, so 228 00:11:08,365 --> 00:11:09,645 that number's also doubled. 229 00:11:10,185 --> 00:11:14,165 Um, the American Bar Association recommends DSS attorneys 230 00:11:14,165 --> 00:11:16,165 only have about 60 cases a piece. 231 00:11:16,865 --> 00:11:19,925 Um, and currently our DSS attorney 232 00:11:19,925 --> 00:11:22,445 that we have is carrying about 130 cases 233 00:11:22,555 --> 00:11:25,565 that are active in abuse, neglect, independency court. 234 00:11:26,345 --> 00:11:28,885 Um, and that does not include any 235 00:11:28,885 --> 00:11:30,125 of the adult services cases. 236 00:11:30,905 --> 00:11:35,485 So in North Carolina, it takes one year to reach permanence, 237 00:11:35,485 --> 00:11:38,005 meaning from the time we file that petition until the time 238 00:11:38,005 --> 00:11:39,765 that we have a permanent plan for that child 239 00:11:40,145 --> 00:11:43,885 to either be adopted or live with a relative 240 00:11:43,885 --> 00:11:46,925 or reunify with their biological parents, it takes one year 241 00:11:47,065 --> 00:11:49,045 for that to occur in our court system. 242 00:11:49,145 --> 00:11:52,445 So once a court case is filed, it's gonna be open for 243 00:11:52,445 --> 00:11:53,885 that full one year period. 244 00:11:55,625 --> 00:12:00,205 Um, on average we have court, um, typically twice a month. 245 00:12:00,675 --> 00:12:02,765 I've been able to speak with Judge Stackhouse 246 00:12:02,785 --> 00:12:05,165 and we do have some special settings coming in January. 247 00:12:05,425 --> 00:12:08,605 We have three additional court dates this month, um, to help 248 00:12:08,635 --> 00:12:09,725 with our docket, 249 00:12:09,905 --> 00:12:13,085 but we have about 12 to 15 cases that are scheduled 250 00:12:13,085 --> 00:12:14,765 to be heard on each court date. 251 00:12:15,385 --> 00:12:18,885 Um, and that number can change obviously if we have, um, 252 00:12:19,105 --> 00:12:20,645 if we take custody of new children 253 00:12:20,645 --> 00:12:22,765 because we only have seven days to get in front 254 00:12:22,765 --> 00:12:24,005 of a judge once we do that. 255 00:12:24,865 --> 00:12:29,365 Um, so with that, it kind of is creating a sustained 256 00:12:29,365 --> 00:12:33,005 and escalating workload for our current DSS attorney. 257 00:12:33,465 --> 00:12:36,085 Um, and that presents risks to the timeliness 258 00:12:36,085 --> 00:12:38,285 of children achieving permanence due process 259 00:12:38,465 --> 00:12:39,765 and just legal compliance. 260 00:12:40,505 --> 00:12:43,165 Um, so our request, I did send out a request 261 00:12:43,165 --> 00:12:48,125 for proposals in October of 2025 for, um, legal services for 262 00:12:48,645 --> 00:12:50,885 proposals were received back from that. 263 00:12:51,425 --> 00:12:53,645 Um, and then following a review process, 264 00:12:54,025 --> 00:12:56,205 one proposal was um, selected. 265 00:12:56,745 --> 00:12:58,805 Um, her name is Ms. Leanne Goss. 266 00:12:59,865 --> 00:13:03,125 Um, and so I'm just seeking the additional funding in the 267 00:13:03,125 --> 00:13:04,565 hiring of a second attorney 268 00:13:04,585 --> 00:13:06,245 for the Department of Social Services. 269 00:13:06,825 --> 00:13:11,205 Um, this will not affect the general fund, uh, 270 00:13:11,275 --> 00:13:12,365 balance at all. 271 00:13:13,265 --> 00:13:17,965 Um, it'll be coming from a different pot of money. 272 00:13:18,585 --> 00:13:20,085 So do y'all have any questions for me? 273 00:13:21,605 --> 00:13:24,805 I do. Um, so what do you attribute the spike 274 00:13:25,945 --> 00:13:27,125 in the number of cases? 275 00:13:27,345 --> 00:13:28,525 That's a significant 276 00:13:28,625 --> 00:13:29,625 Job. Mm-hmm. 277 00:13:29,625 --> 00:13:33,805 So I will say that in 24, 278 00:13:34,235 --> 00:13:36,445 that is when the staffing crisis occurred. 279 00:13:36,465 --> 00:13:39,645 It started in 2023, it continued through 2024 280 00:13:40,095 --> 00:13:41,565 until I arrived in September. 281 00:13:42,145 --> 00:13:45,605 Um, part of the reason when I got here that they had all 282 00:13:45,605 --> 00:13:46,725 of those backlog cases, 283 00:13:46,775 --> 00:13:50,085 there was over a hundred backlog cases that dated back 284 00:13:50,185 --> 00:13:51,325 to 2023. 285 00:13:51,905 --> 00:13:54,805 So some of these cases were just getting caught up. 286 00:13:55,345 --> 00:13:57,085 Um, meaning those court actions 287 00:13:57,085 --> 00:13:58,565 that should have been filed months prior 288 00:13:58,635 --> 00:13:59,925 were finally being filed. 289 00:14:00,765 --> 00:14:02,165 I will also say there's been a, 290 00:14:02,325 --> 00:14:04,925 a shift in state policy that happened here. 291 00:14:05,465 --> 00:14:09,285 Uh, we went live in path and see in July of 2025. 292 00:14:09,945 --> 00:14:11,525 Um, that policy 293 00:14:13,105 --> 00:14:15,245 has significantly increased the number 294 00:14:15,265 --> 00:14:16,725 of immediate response reports 295 00:14:16,825 --> 00:14:19,245 and 24 hour reports that the agency sees 296 00:14:19,355 --> 00:14:22,205 because of some changes with the legal definitions 297 00:14:22,305 --> 00:14:23,485 of abuse and neglect. 298 00:14:24,025 --> 00:14:28,325 Um, so I think some of that is, um, attributed to that. 299 00:14:29,025 --> 00:14:32,085 Um, and then I also think, you know, with, 300 00:14:33,515 --> 00:14:36,685 there's a lot of, un un, what's the right word? 301 00:14:37,315 --> 00:14:40,845 Untreated mental health, um, and domestic violence 302 00:14:41,185 --> 00:14:44,245 and substance abuse that we are catching up on. 303 00:14:44,585 --> 00:14:46,365 And we do try to work with families. 304 00:14:46,365 --> 00:14:47,925 We try to keep children in the home, 305 00:14:48,385 --> 00:14:49,965 but if we're not able to do that, 306 00:14:50,115 --> 00:14:51,725 then obviously we do have to file. 307 00:14:52,665 --> 00:14:56,165 So the second question I have is, is, is this 308 00:14:57,075 --> 00:15:00,285 expense here to cover the backlog 309 00:15:00,905 --> 00:15:03,805 or will this be a recurring expense? 310 00:15:04,425 --> 00:15:06,805 So we currently, um, Mr. Griffin, 311 00:15:07,025 --> 00:15:10,085 the current DSS attorney is a, an actual, 312 00:15:10,285 --> 00:15:11,645 a full-time employee of the county. 313 00:15:12,305 --> 00:15:16,325 Um, this will be a contract attorney that we are hiring 314 00:15:16,665 --> 00:15:18,605 to bring on as our secondary attorney. 315 00:15:19,265 --> 00:15:22,285 Um, so it will be recurring. 316 00:15:22,525 --> 00:15:23,845 I would expect it to be recurring. 317 00:15:24,185 --> 00:15:28,125 Um, that workload, I don't foresee going down just 318 00:15:28,125 --> 00:15:29,565 with the shift in everything. 319 00:15:30,065 --> 00:15:32,325 Um, I will also say, you know, now 320 00:15:32,325 --> 00:15:35,405 that cases are being handled appropriately 321 00:15:35,705 --> 00:15:39,365 and timely decisions are being made, um, 322 00:15:39,515 --> 00:15:41,405 it's preventing it doesn't allow for kids 323 00:15:41,425 --> 00:15:43,165 to stay in the home longer than they need to be. 324 00:15:43,425 --> 00:15:44,965 We can go ahead and start that process 325 00:15:45,145 --> 00:15:47,485 and get permanence achieved faster for them. 326 00:15:48,065 --> 00:15:50,405 Um, so it's, I don't foresee it going down. 327 00:15:50,585 --> 00:15:52,685 It will be an ongoing expense when we're planning 328 00:15:52,705 --> 00:15:55,445 for our budget next year that we will have to include, 329 00:15:55,755 --> 00:15:57,205 okay, this is enough. 330 00:15:57,425 --> 00:16:00,725 Um, this dollar amount is enough to get us through the end 331 00:16:00,725 --> 00:16:03,205 of this fiscal year in to July of this year. 332 00:16:03,925 --> 00:16:05,485 Commissioner do to your question? 333 00:16:05,615 --> 00:16:07,645 We've been talking about this for a while now. Yes. 334 00:16:07,645 --> 00:16:08,645 So we've been monitoring that 335 00:16:08,705 --> 00:16:10,845 to see if it was still gonna trend like it has been. 336 00:16:10,905 --> 00:16:12,245 And so we haven't seen much change. 337 00:16:12,255 --> 00:16:14,645 It'll probably go up and so we've been talking about it 338 00:16:14,645 --> 00:16:16,045 for some time before we brought this to the board. 339 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:18,085 So we think now, uh, our numbers probably are 340 00:16:18,085 --> 00:16:20,365 where they're gonna be and uh, so most likely we need 341 00:16:20,365 --> 00:16:22,205 that additional capacity in DSS. 342 00:16:22,675 --> 00:16:25,165 Okay. And Brittany, if you talk about, I think some 343 00:16:25,165 --> 00:16:26,485 of this additional funds is also 344 00:16:26,685 --> 00:16:27,885 reimbursable to a certain degree. 345 00:16:28,265 --> 00:16:32,525 Yes. All of these funds are, um, the, our contracts are, 346 00:16:32,635 --> 00:16:34,605 it's 45 to 50%. 347 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:38,005 Is that correct? Yes. 45 to 50% reimbursable by the state. 348 00:16:38,425 --> 00:16:41,485 So those, um, we can submit that information 349 00:16:41,485 --> 00:16:45,445 to the state monthly on our 1571 that we have to do 350 00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:48,285 and that will get us reimbursed 45 to 50% 351 00:16:48,305 --> 00:16:49,525 of the amount shown. 352 00:16:50,315 --> 00:16:51,885 Okay. Recoup over those funds? Yes. 353 00:16:51,885 --> 00:16:54,645 Okay. Thank you. Originally that we did, 354 00:16:54,645 --> 00:16:57,965 were doing contracting, but we got to the backlog 355 00:16:58,025 --> 00:16:59,725 and everything and that's when we decided 356 00:16:59,725 --> 00:17:02,725 that we would put the attorneys on staff. 357 00:17:03,115 --> 00:17:06,325 Yeah. But with, uh, rising costs, you don't have too much 358 00:17:06,325 --> 00:17:08,525 of a choice, do you Correct. 359 00:17:08,705 --> 00:17:09,845 Any other questions or comments? 360 00:17:11,025 --> 00:17:12,565 Motion to approve. Second. 361 00:17:13,315 --> 00:17:14,645 It's been a motion and a second. 362 00:17:15,265 --> 00:17:19,205 All those in favor say aye. Aye. And all those? Likewise. 363 00:17:20,255 --> 00:17:21,485 Thank you Ms Na. Thank you. 364 00:17:22,675 --> 00:17:24,925 Item number 15 is a resolution 365 00:17:24,925 --> 00:17:27,725 and budget ordinance amendment authorizing acceptance 366 00:17:28,105 --> 00:17:31,165 and disbursement of one North Carolina funds 367 00:17:31,225 --> 00:17:33,565 for Crown Equipment Corporation as part 368 00:17:33,565 --> 00:17:35,485 of the economic development project known 369 00:17:35,485 --> 00:17:37,845 as Project Relive in the amount 370 00:17:37,885 --> 00:17:41,325 of $400,000. Is Trey 371 00:17:41,325 --> 00:17:42,325 Here? Hey, Madam Chair, I'll 372 00:17:42,325 --> 00:17:43,165 take that item for T Tray. 373 00:17:43,635 --> 00:17:46,365 He's in, uh, Disney World with his family, so we need 374 00:17:46,365 --> 00:17:47,885 to pray for him probably. Yeah. 375 00:17:48,185 --> 00:17:49,365 Um, The request 376 00:17:49,365 --> 00:17:50,485 before the board is associated 377 00:17:50,485 --> 00:17:52,805 with the 2021 Economic Development Project 378 00:17:52,835 --> 00:17:53,845 with Crown Equipment. 379 00:17:54,225 --> 00:17:57,565 Uh, as the board recalls Crown was awarded $400,000 from the 380 00:17:57,565 --> 00:17:59,485 Department of Commerce for a building reuse project. 381 00:18:00,065 --> 00:18:02,285 And the county, uh, as always serves as a pass 382 00:18:02,285 --> 00:18:03,285 through agency for those grants. 383 00:18:04,405 --> 00:18:06,405 Commerce has notified us that Crown has met all the 384 00:18:06,405 --> 00:18:07,565 requirements of the grant program 385 00:18:07,785 --> 00:18:10,445 and we are requesting that the board authorize, uh, 386 00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:11,885 the acceptance of those grant funds 387 00:18:11,985 --> 00:18:14,605 and then allow us to disperse those funds to crown, uh, 388 00:18:14,605 --> 00:18:15,845 following their completion of the project. 389 00:18:16,825 --> 00:18:19,845 Motion to approve. Second, then a motion 390 00:18:19,985 --> 00:18:22,085 and a second are any other questions or comments? 391 00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:25,925 If not all those in favor say aye. A aye. 392 00:18:25,985 --> 00:18:27,565 And all those opposed? Likewise. 393 00:18:29,305 --> 00:18:31,925 Number 16 is a resolution 394 00:18:31,945 --> 00:18:34,445 and budget ordinance amendment authorizing your finance 395 00:18:34,445 --> 00:18:37,805 officer to process the berry building settlement 396 00:18:37,805 --> 00:18:40,885 and the amount of $500,000. Ms. Berrys, 397 00:18:41,675 --> 00:18:42,925 Good morning. Good 398 00:18:42,925 --> 00:18:43,925 Morning. Thank 399 00:18:43,925 --> 00:18:45,645 you Madam Chair. I wanna read a brief statement, um, 400 00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:48,925 uh, before the public on, uh, the action before the board. 401 00:18:49,505 --> 00:18:51,125 And this is one that there's been a 402 00:18:51,125 --> 00:18:52,165 lot of questions about. 403 00:18:52,345 --> 00:18:54,045 So I hope that, uh, 404 00:18:54,045 --> 00:18:58,325 those in the viewing audience will pay attention to, uh, 405 00:18:58,345 --> 00:18:59,605 the statement regarding this. 406 00:18:59,925 --> 00:19:02,525 'cause it's not as always it had been portrayed. 407 00:19:03,695 --> 00:19:05,845 Thank you Madam Chair. Uh, on behalf of the Board 408 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:06,925 of County Commissioners, I would like 409 00:19:06,925 --> 00:19:08,685 to provide a brief statement regarding the resolution 410 00:19:08,685 --> 00:19:10,765 of a recent legal matter involving Lenore County, 411 00:19:10,765 --> 00:19:12,805 Barry Building Group, dun Adult Architects 412 00:19:12,805 --> 00:19:13,845 and DaVita Engineering. 413 00:19:14,305 --> 00:19:16,525 During the renovation of the county administration building. 414 00:19:16,625 --> 00:19:18,205 Our contract was unfortunately the victim 415 00:19:18,205 --> 00:19:19,645 of a sophisticated cyber crime 416 00:19:20,265 --> 00:19:22,565 in which fraudulent banking information was used 417 00:19:22,565 --> 00:19:24,525 to divert payments intended for legitimate work. 418 00:19:25,145 --> 00:19:26,565 As a result, several payments were 419 00:19:26,565 --> 00:19:27,685 sent to a fraudulent account. 420 00:19:28,385 --> 00:19:31,045 On October 22nd, Lenoir County participated in mediation 421 00:19:31,045 --> 00:19:33,245 with all of our parties with a shared goal 422 00:19:33,245 --> 00:19:34,365 of reaching a fair resolution 423 00:19:34,385 --> 00:19:36,325 and avoiding a lengthy and costly legal process. 424 00:19:37,265 --> 00:19:39,205 I'm pleased to report that this matter has now been fully 425 00:19:39,485 --> 00:19:41,125 resolved through an amicable settlement. 426 00:19:41,675 --> 00:19:43,285 Importantly, no taxpayer dollars 427 00:19:43,285 --> 00:19:44,885 were used to resolve this case. Could 428 00:19:44,885 --> 00:19:45,885 You repeat that please? 429 00:19:47,875 --> 00:19:49,325 That there was a fully resolved 430 00:19:49,325 --> 00:19:50,885 through an an amicable settlement. 431 00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:53,245 Uh, importantly, no taxpayer dollars 432 00:19:53,245 --> 00:19:54,405 were used to resolve this case. 433 00:19:54,625 --> 00:19:56,045 The county's insurance carriers have 434 00:19:56,205 --> 00:20:00,725 provided $756,250 in coverage for the fraudulent payments, 435 00:20:00,725 --> 00:20:02,445 and the county has agreed to apply those funds 436 00:20:02,505 --> 00:20:04,565 as its contribution toward the overall settlement. 437 00:20:05,385 --> 00:20:07,205 We understand that members of the public may have had 438 00:20:07,405 --> 00:20:09,725 questions as this issue unfolded, however it has been 439 00:20:09,725 --> 00:20:11,485 and remains the policy of Lenoir County not 440 00:20:11,485 --> 00:20:13,485 to comment publicly on matters of active litigation. 441 00:20:14,265 --> 00:20:16,565 Now that this case has concluded, we can reaffirm 442 00:20:16,565 --> 00:20:18,485 that the county approached this matter of due diligence 443 00:20:18,485 --> 00:20:21,005 and seriousness acted responsibly throughout, 444 00:20:21,025 --> 00:20:22,925 and we remain focused on protecting the integrity 445 00:20:22,945 --> 00:20:25,605 of the legal process and the careful use of local resources. 446 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:27,405 We appreciate the cooperation 447 00:20:27,405 --> 00:20:28,805 of all parties involved in reaching this 448 00:20:29,005 --> 00:20:30,205 resolution with this matter. 449 00:20:30,265 --> 00:20:32,205 Now behind us, our focus is firmly on moving forward, 450 00:20:32,615 --> 00:20:34,765 continuing to serve the citizens of Lenoir County 451 00:20:34,765 --> 00:20:36,125 with transparency, accountability, 452 00:20:36,265 --> 00:20:38,165 and dedication. Thank you, Madam Chair. 453 00:20:38,575 --> 00:20:42,445 Thank you, sir. So with that being said, 454 00:20:42,835 --> 00:20:46,445 this $500,000 was funds that were received 455 00:20:47,305 --> 00:20:51,885 in the, um, county from insurance coverage. 456 00:20:52,385 --> 00:20:54,245 So these are not taxpayer dollars, 457 00:20:54,985 --> 00:20:57,885 and those funds were dropped into the general fund at the 458 00:20:57,885 --> 00:21:00,605 end of the fiscal year because of the ongoing litigation. 459 00:21:01,025 --> 00:21:04,645 So now we have to move those funds from fund balance over 460 00:21:04,785 --> 00:21:06,285 to make sure we make this payment 461 00:21:08,675 --> 00:21:10,485 Move to approve. Second, 462 00:21:10,755 --> 00:21:12,845 There's been a motion and a second are any 463 00:21:12,845 --> 00:21:13,925 other questions or comments? 464 00:21:14,515 --> 00:21:17,685 Just to be clear, the remaining balance also is still 465 00:21:17,685 --> 00:21:19,805 insurance funds and this is combined with it, 466 00:21:20,195 --> 00:21:21,195 Correct? Yes, sir. Everything 467 00:21:21,195 --> 00:21:22,725 is insurance funds 468 00:21:23,185 --> 00:21:24,185 One once again. Yeah. 469 00:21:24,185 --> 00:21:25,525 Did not come out of, 470 00:21:26,215 --> 00:21:28,205 There is no taxpayer dollars. 471 00:21:29,025 --> 00:21:31,085 So hopefully some of this political wrangling 472 00:21:31,085 --> 00:21:32,645 that's going on can be put to bed. 473 00:21:32,815 --> 00:21:36,085 Thank you. I just wanna state it one more time. No, 474 00:21:36,225 --> 00:21:37,605 No. Taxpayer dollars, 475 00:21:37,665 --> 00:21:40,525 Tax payer dollars were used to settle this. 476 00:21:41,105 --> 00:21:44,725 And the reason we're making sure that's emphasized is 477 00:21:44,725 --> 00:21:47,205 because there was a lot of rumors 478 00:21:47,265 --> 00:21:49,165 and a lot of, uh, accusations 479 00:21:49,505 --> 00:21:51,805 and, uh, there were a lot of things. 480 00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:53,845 People don't realize it sometimes, 481 00:21:53,905 --> 00:21:55,445 but when you get involved in this, 482 00:21:56,185 --> 00:21:57,965 you can't go out and talk about it. 483 00:21:58,025 --> 00:22:01,845 And I want to commend our lawyer as ugly as people, 484 00:22:01,955 --> 00:22:03,045 some people got at us 485 00:22:03,065 --> 00:22:05,485 and as bad as we wanted to, he kept reminding us 486 00:22:06,025 --> 00:22:07,445 you cannot talk. 487 00:22:08,105 --> 00:22:12,885 And so through his due diligence with us, uh, I think 488 00:22:12,915 --> 00:22:15,125 that was definitely the right thing to do 489 00:22:15,305 --> 00:22:16,685 and things turned out well. 490 00:22:16,735 --> 00:22:18,125 Would you like to make any comments? 491 00:22:18,825 --> 00:22:21,005 I'm sure I I'll reiterate that. 492 00:22:21,005 --> 00:22:22,485 You know, it is one of the hardest things 493 00:22:22,905 --> 00:22:24,805 for elected officials to do is 494 00:22:24,825 --> 00:22:26,845 to not comment on things like this, 495 00:22:27,465 --> 00:22:31,005 but it, it upheld the integrity of the litigation process. 496 00:22:31,665 --> 00:22:34,445 And you know what the last thing you want is for 497 00:22:34,755 --> 00:22:38,645 outside influences to, to influence a business decision, 498 00:22:38,645 --> 00:22:41,245 which is essentially what it is, is to, you know, 499 00:22:41,245 --> 00:22:44,925 settle a lawsuit with, you know, to, to avoid payment of, 500 00:22:44,925 --> 00:22:48,085 of taxpayer funds in, in an unfortunate situation. 501 00:22:48,365 --> 00:22:50,365 I think the, the, I commend this board 502 00:22:50,505 --> 00:22:51,965 for staying the course. 503 00:22:52,425 --> 00:22:54,845 Uh, I think it was a, it was a positive outcome 504 00:22:54,845 --> 00:22:56,325 and a negative situation. 505 00:22:56,625 --> 00:23:00,125 Um, and, and I think, uh, it was a good outcome for the, 506 00:23:00,185 --> 00:23:03,285 for the, the folks living in, in Lenoir County, um, 507 00:23:03,285 --> 00:23:05,485 because it was insurance money that was used. 508 00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:08,845 And, um, so, so I, I reiterate that, that it, 509 00:23:08,845 --> 00:23:10,285 it is very hard and difficult to do 510 00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:11,925 and sometimes the public gets impatient, 511 00:23:12,145 --> 00:23:15,165 but, uh, I think that the ends justify the means 512 00:23:15,265 --> 00:23:17,125 and I think the outcome was a positive one. 513 00:23:17,425 --> 00:23:19,925 And we do appreciate you and your staff so much course 514 00:23:19,925 --> 00:23:22,525 because there was a lot of work done on Yeah, absolutely. 515 00:23:22,585 --> 00:23:25,685 And, um, he kept us surprised and kept reminding us, 516 00:23:25,685 --> 00:23:28,125 because a lot of times people don't realize it, 517 00:23:28,125 --> 00:23:32,925 but you can say one sentence and it can ruin the whole case. 518 00:23:33,805 --> 00:23:35,545 Uh, and the outcome could be 519 00:23:36,185 --> 00:23:38,105 entirely different from what it should be. 520 00:23:38,285 --> 00:23:40,145 So it is really hard to do that, 521 00:23:40,145 --> 00:23:41,425 especially when you got people 522 00:23:42,255 --> 00:23:43,425 Calling you up. Yeah, 523 00:23:43,425 --> 00:23:44,425 Yeah. Right. I understand. 524 00:23:44,425 --> 00:23:44,905 I don't mind, 525 00:23:45,085 --> 00:23:48,045 I don't mind being called, you know, asking about it, 526 00:23:48,045 --> 00:23:50,725 but when we tell you, we can't tell you, we can't tell, 527 00:23:50,875 --> 00:23:53,605 tell you to protect the dollars 528 00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:54,845 of the taxpayer. That that's 529 00:23:54,845 --> 00:23:55,845 Right. As I recall, 530 00:23:55,845 --> 00:23:59,125 we got berated one day by a taxpayer 531 00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:01,845 and uh, I believe yes, 532 00:24:02,105 --> 00:24:04,725 he said if he was wrong, he would apologize. 533 00:24:04,945 --> 00:24:07,405 So I'm sure there will be an apology. 534 00:24:08,995 --> 00:24:12,885 Yeah, we were told that we needed to apologize. So anyway, 535 00:24:12,935 --> 00:24:14,485 Madam, madam chair, may I share? 536 00:24:14,555 --> 00:24:15,845 Sure. I've gone to a lot 537 00:24:15,845 --> 00:24:18,085 of training throughout the past year about, uh, 538 00:24:18,095 --> 00:24:21,405 cyber crimes, cyber activities that have, uh, impacted 539 00:24:22,225 --> 00:24:24,405 not only county government, city government, 540 00:24:24,465 --> 00:24:26,085 but our community college systems. 541 00:24:26,825 --> 00:24:31,165 And we are not the only ones this happens and, 542 00:24:31,165 --> 00:24:33,165 and the criminals are going 543 00:24:33,165 --> 00:24:36,045 after this every hour of every day. 544 00:24:36,305 --> 00:24:37,325 So, um, 545 00:24:37,505 --> 00:24:40,925 but I commend our staff on, on the follow up they've done 546 00:24:40,945 --> 00:24:44,485 to make sure that we are at least doing everything we can 547 00:24:44,545 --> 00:24:46,365 to avoid this happening to us. 548 00:24:46,545 --> 00:24:47,545 So 549 00:24:48,215 --> 00:24:49,215 Thank you. Yes, 550 00:24:49,215 --> 00:24:52,365 very important. I appreciate the county manager. 551 00:24:52,985 --> 00:24:54,925 He probably gained a few gray hairs through this. 552 00:24:56,185 --> 00:24:57,405 I'm trying to hold onto hair. I got 553 00:24:58,635 --> 00:25:00,005 Getting A little, but anyway, 554 00:25:00,005 --> 00:25:01,205 that's enough upset about that. 555 00:25:01,345 --> 00:25:06,285 And uh, I do appreciate the due diligence of the, 556 00:25:06,285 --> 00:25:07,885 because it was hard question. 557 00:25:07,905 --> 00:25:09,405 But anyway, do we vote 558 00:25:09,405 --> 00:25:10,125 On that? We, 559 00:25:10,785 --> 00:25:14,485 Um, so all those in favor say aye A and all those opposed? 560 00:25:14,485 --> 00:25:17,245 Likewise. Okay. 561 00:25:17,995 --> 00:25:22,245 Item number 17 is a resolution authorizing the finance 562 00:25:22,315 --> 00:25:26,445 officer to process a line item transfer in the fire district 563 00:25:26,445 --> 00:25:27,405 funds in the amount of 564 00:25:27,405 --> 00:25:31,965 $1,901,296 Ms. 565 00:25:32,055 --> 00:25:33,055 Bears. 566 00:25:33,535 --> 00:25:37,525 Thank you. Um, this line item transfer, 567 00:25:38,225 --> 00:25:40,645 the funds are already sitting in the budget, 568 00:25:41,145 --> 00:25:43,205 but they're sitting in one line item. 569 00:25:44,025 --> 00:25:46,045 And for tracking purposes, 570 00:25:46,665 --> 00:25:49,525 it would be best if we could split that line item up so 571 00:25:49,525 --> 00:25:52,085 that we are tracking two completely different things. 572 00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:54,805 And that is the reason for the request. 573 00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:57,885 There's no additional money being added, 574 00:25:57,995 --> 00:25:59,085 it's already in the budget. 575 00:25:59,175 --> 00:26:00,325 We're just splitting it out 576 00:26:00,425 --> 00:26:01,925 To make the tracking clearer, right? 577 00:26:02,145 --> 00:26:04,325 Yes, ma'am. And, 578 00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:08,405 and splitting out like this will give greater transparency 579 00:26:09,185 --> 00:26:11,405 and and accountability as to 580 00:26:11,405 --> 00:26:12,725 Where The yes sir will be. 581 00:26:13,025 --> 00:26:16,685 Be easier for people to, to see what's there. Yes. Okay. 582 00:26:16,685 --> 00:26:18,765 Commissioner, just as we noted in the update, 583 00:26:18,765 --> 00:26:20,245 this is all part of the project we're working on 584 00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,365 with our consultant to come in and look at operations 585 00:26:22,365 --> 00:26:25,045 and this was the recognition they had to, to, uh, 586 00:26:25,155 --> 00:26:27,685 bifurcate avalor and sales tax revenue for the ions 587 00:26:29,425 --> 00:26:30,425 Motion. 588 00:26:30,955 --> 00:26:33,045 There's a motion and a second are any 589 00:26:33,045 --> 00:26:34,285 other questions or comments? 590 00:26:35,765 --> 00:26:38,225 If not all those in favor say aye. Aye. 591 00:26:38,405 --> 00:26:41,145 And all those opposed? Likewise. Thank you. 592 00:26:41,145 --> 00:26:45,205 Under appointments, uh, for citizens to boards 593 00:26:45,205 --> 00:26:48,605 and stuff, we don't have anybody for a second reading. 594 00:26:49,185 --> 00:26:53,565 We do have, um, a couple for the first reading, uh, 595 00:26:53,585 --> 00:26:55,445 for the Lenoir County DSS board. 596 00:26:55,805 --> 00:26:58,565 Margaret Grace, Alexander Merri. Is that not the second? 597 00:26:58,665 --> 00:27:01,245 That's second. That's Second. That is second. Second. 598 00:27:02,355 --> 00:27:03,605 Okay. I remember her. 599 00:27:07,275 --> 00:27:10,645 It's not noted, is it? Okay. 600 00:27:11,145 --> 00:27:13,325 So it's the second reading I, I'm sorry. 601 00:27:14,225 --> 00:27:17,645 Um, for the Lenoir County DSS board, Margaret Grace, 602 00:27:17,915 --> 00:27:20,565 Alexander Merri, uh, 603 00:27:20,745 --> 00:27:23,085 and for jury commission, Anthony Clark. 604 00:27:23,785 --> 00:27:26,165 Motion to approve. There's been a motion. 605 00:27:26,305 --> 00:27:30,085 Second and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. 606 00:27:30,385 --> 00:27:31,885 And all those opposed? Likewise. 607 00:27:33,105 --> 00:27:35,525 Uh, for those that don't know, we usually have two readings 608 00:27:35,525 --> 00:27:37,285 that we read the first time 609 00:27:38,025 --> 00:27:40,205 and then it's approved at the next meeting. 610 00:27:40,385 --> 00:27:42,485 So that's why I was said first and second. 611 00:27:44,275 --> 00:27:48,605 Okay, Mr. James. Alright. 612 00:27:48,605 --> 00:27:50,605 Thank you Madam Chair. Uh, just a few things. 613 00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:54,405 Um, and your abstract or your agenda is the Planning 614 00:27:54,405 --> 00:27:56,125 and Inspections report for November 25 615 00:27:56,265 --> 00:27:58,965 and the transit report from November 25 as well. 616 00:27:59,425 --> 00:28:00,485 As always, if you have any questions 617 00:28:00,485 --> 00:28:01,685 or concerns, please let me know. 618 00:28:02,065 --> 00:28:04,205 Um, did wanna remind the board we're getting 619 00:28:04,385 --> 00:28:06,605 to towards budget seasons for Ffy 27. 620 00:28:06,745 --> 00:28:08,805 So, uh, Jennifer's getting cranked up. 621 00:28:08,805 --> 00:28:10,365 Department heads are starting to work on their budget. 622 00:28:10,465 --> 00:28:11,405 Um, so look forward to working 623 00:28:11,405 --> 00:28:12,245 with y'all through that process. 624 00:28:12,985 --> 00:28:15,445 Um, we'll be sharing a budget development calendar 625 00:28:15,515 --> 00:28:16,925 with you all over the coming weeks 626 00:28:17,065 --> 00:28:18,365 and, uh, and begin in that process. 627 00:28:18,665 --> 00:28:21,445 So I look forward to all that hard work that goes into it. 628 00:28:21,445 --> 00:28:23,285 Appreciate all the feedback from the board in that process. 629 00:28:24,065 --> 00:28:25,205 And that's all for me. Madam Chair, 630 00:28:25,945 --> 00:28:28,125 Did we not do anything to Mr. Best today? 631 00:28:29,985 --> 00:28:32,125 Father? It was next meeting. What'd you say? 632 00:28:32,435 --> 00:28:34,125 Next meeting, Mr. Swear 633 00:28:34,305 --> 00:28:34,685 In. And 634 00:28:35,385 --> 00:28:36,385 That's the 20th. 635 00:28:36,975 --> 00:28:40,245 We'll do the, um, proclamation and then we're swear in. 636 00:28:40,915 --> 00:28:42,405 Okay. On the 20th. 637 00:28:42,865 --> 00:28:46,725 Yes sir. Alrighty. Okay. 638 00:28:46,905 --> 00:28:51,005 Um, for items from the commissioners at this time, 639 00:28:52,265 --> 00:28:54,485 Mr. King, do you have anything? 640 00:28:55,285 --> 00:28:58,765 I just had a good holiday. Very busy. 641 00:28:59,105 --> 00:29:01,805 Uh, kinda all around the county at different events. 642 00:29:02,705 --> 00:29:05,325 Uh, appreciate all the invitations that I've received 643 00:29:06,185 --> 00:29:08,325 and I certainly am gonna miss Commissioner Best. 644 00:29:08,435 --> 00:29:11,925 I've known him pretty much my whole life, so he is, 645 00:29:12,025 --> 00:29:13,165 he will definitely be missed 646 00:29:14,025 --> 00:29:17,845 and, uh, look forward to his wife coming in soon and, 647 00:29:18,465 --> 00:29:21,525 and us, uh, celebrating what he did for us for many years 648 00:29:21,825 --> 00:29:25,445 as a, a law enforcement and also as a commissioner. 649 00:29:25,665 --> 00:29:28,365 So that's about it. Look forward to the new year. 650 00:29:28,775 --> 00:29:30,205 Thank you Dr. Harris. 651 00:29:30,865 --> 00:29:35,045 Yes. I am grateful that we were blessed to make it 652 00:29:35,045 --> 00:29:36,285 to this brand new year. 653 00:29:37,155 --> 00:29:39,725 Amen. When we think about, there are a lot of individuals 654 00:29:39,745 --> 00:29:41,685 who did not make it this far 655 00:29:42,465 --> 00:29:46,285 and certainly we are remembering the best family. 656 00:29:47,105 --> 00:29:48,645 As I recall that 657 00:29:49,345 --> 00:29:53,125 we started out at the Lenoir Community College in 658 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,765 around 1970. 659 00:29:55,305 --> 00:29:58,805 He was going for basic law enforcement training 660 00:29:59,385 --> 00:30:03,685 and at that time I was trying to go into radio 661 00:30:03,905 --> 00:30:05,685 and television broadcasting. 662 00:30:06,425 --> 00:30:08,085 Uh, both of us were able 663 00:30:08,105 --> 00:30:12,485 to graduate from those courses at Lenore Community College. 664 00:30:12,865 --> 00:30:14,565 He became a law enforcement officer. 665 00:30:15,085 --> 00:30:16,485 I became a radio announcer. 666 00:30:17,105 --> 00:30:19,685 So we are looking forward to a great year 667 00:30:20,145 --> 00:30:22,525 as we come into 2026. 668 00:30:23,365 --> 00:30:25,805 I knew there was a reason you read all the proclamations. 669 00:30:27,305 --> 00:30:30,405 You think I keep reading them after Uhuh? 670 00:30:31,375 --> 00:30:33,365 Thank you Commissioner Ross. Yeah, just 671 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:34,645 Gonna tell everybody have to New Year 672 00:30:34,865 --> 00:30:37,725 and hope they are able to stick 673 00:30:37,725 --> 00:30:41,605 to their New Year's resolution at least over a 674 00:30:41,605 --> 00:30:42,965 month. But, uh, yeah, 675 00:30:43,165 --> 00:30:44,165 I will. I didn't make him. 676 00:30:44,165 --> 00:30:44,765 Yeah, 677 00:30:45,905 --> 00:30:46,905 I'm gonna Ms. Rowland. I enjoyed 678 00:30:46,905 --> 00:30:48,685 working with him. He was a fine man. 679 00:30:48,685 --> 00:30:50,405 He had a sweet wife. Um, 680 00:30:51,225 --> 00:30:55,765 and it's a shame we had to have a transition the way we did. 681 00:30:56,105 --> 00:30:58,765 But he will be missed. 682 00:30:59,305 --> 00:31:02,805 And I'm looking forward to all the new events 683 00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:05,325 and meetings that are coming up this year. 684 00:31:06,225 --> 00:31:07,285 Say that tongue in cheek, 685 00:31:08,785 --> 00:31:10,005 but I think it's gonna be a good year. 686 00:31:10,005 --> 00:31:13,965 What was our, what was last year was Thrive in 25. Mm-hmm. 687 00:31:14,045 --> 00:31:16,565 What'd we say? 26 in the mix. In the mix 688 00:31:21,525 --> 00:31:22,525 Commissioner? 689 00:31:23,265 --> 00:31:25,725 Yes. I wanted to just thank all the employees 690 00:31:25,745 --> 00:31:27,645 for the opportunity to celebrate 691 00:31:27,825 --> 00:31:29,605 the Christmas season with them. 692 00:31:29,905 --> 00:31:34,045 Uh, that was, that was a delightful time to be able to, uh, 693 00:31:34,105 --> 00:31:38,325 to meet more people that are, are gifts so generously, um, 694 00:31:38,865 --> 00:31:42,445 of their time and, and professional skills to this county. 695 00:31:43,185 --> 00:31:46,365 Um, and go beyond the call of duty in many cases. 696 00:31:46,665 --> 00:31:50,645 So I also will miss my buddy. Thank you 697 00:31:51,705 --> 00:31:52,525 Mr. Doherty. 698 00:31:53,355 --> 00:31:55,725 Well, I act the, everybody on here. 699 00:31:55,725 --> 00:31:59,485 Happy New Year to everybody. Um, will certainly miss Roland. 700 00:32:00,265 --> 00:32:04,845 Um, he was a kind soul and a good commissioner. 701 00:32:05,425 --> 00:32:10,365 Um, I'd like to congratulate the sheriff on now 702 00:32:10,365 --> 00:32:13,405 that filing is closed on being unopposed and yay. 703 00:32:14,675 --> 00:32:17,565 Look forward to seeing you for the next five years 704 00:32:18,025 --> 00:32:22,045 and, uh, God willing, that is so, 705 00:32:22,345 --> 00:32:23,605 um, but that's all I ask. 706 00:32:26,705 --> 00:32:27,965 And let's see. You filed 707 00:32:28,105 --> 00:32:30,165 and you didn't have any opposition, did you? 708 00:32:30,385 --> 00:32:31,445 Yes. You, 709 00:32:31,585 --> 00:32:32,725 and I'm not sure you look forward 710 00:32:32,725 --> 00:32:34,565 to seeing me the next five, but I'll be here. 711 00:32:36,025 --> 00:32:37,245 Yes, we are, absolutely. 712 00:32:38,385 --> 00:32:43,245 Um, and on Commissioner Best, we will 713 00:32:43,915 --> 00:32:45,485 have the name presented 714 00:32:45,485 --> 00:32:48,005 to us from the Democratic Party at the next meeting 715 00:32:48,105 --> 00:32:49,925 and then vote on that. 716 00:32:50,025 --> 00:32:53,805 And if everything goes well, he will be, um, sworn in. 717 00:32:54,505 --> 00:32:57,685 And also Commissioner Best's family will be here. 718 00:32:58,545 --> 00:33:02,445 Um, we wanted to present them with a few items 719 00:33:02,705 --> 00:33:06,085 and, um, so they're gonna be here then. 720 00:33:06,905 --> 00:33:10,805 Um, we did attend, let's see, Preston Harris, 721 00:33:11,985 --> 00:33:15,485 myself and June Cummings 722 00:33:16,165 --> 00:33:20,885 attended the, uh, celebration of life for Roland 723 00:33:21,385 --> 00:33:25,605 and also, uh, Craig Hill, former commissioner was with us. 724 00:33:26,425 --> 00:33:28,885 And Mike's spoke and, you know, Mike 725 00:33:28,985 --> 00:33:32,725 and some of the such, um, office staff, Jennifer and Akita 726 00:33:32,725 --> 00:33:36,285 and Michael actually brought his wife. 727 00:33:36,345 --> 00:33:38,965 We gotta see her. But, uh, 728 00:33:39,145 --> 00:33:41,285 it truly was a celebration of life. 729 00:33:42,705 --> 00:33:47,205 Um, I wish maybe a, a 10th of 730 00:33:47,205 --> 00:33:48,525 what was said positive 731 00:33:48,525 --> 00:33:50,405 to him would be said when I passed on. 732 00:33:51,525 --> 00:33:54,005 'cause um, he was just a good man. 733 00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:58,005 I've known him for, like, they asked Michael 734 00:33:58,105 --> 00:33:59,325 and I to speak at the funeral, 735 00:33:59,945 --> 00:34:03,765 but it's so funny sometimes how the good Lord has a plan 736 00:34:03,785 --> 00:34:05,645 and people come in and outta your life. 737 00:34:06,505 --> 00:34:08,805 He and I, uh, knew, I guess we first got 738 00:34:08,805 --> 00:34:11,885 to know each other a little bit when I was, uh, started out 739 00:34:11,885 --> 00:34:13,805 as a volunteer and, uh, 740 00:34:13,865 --> 00:34:16,325 we were working on some school stuff, countywide. 741 00:34:16,325 --> 00:34:18,245 That's when I got to know he and Glenda. 742 00:34:18,245 --> 00:34:20,045 They were always really involved in their 743 00:34:20,765 --> 00:34:22,005 children's activities. 744 00:34:22,865 --> 00:34:25,605 And then, uh, we moved away for about five years 745 00:34:25,665 --> 00:34:29,565 and then moved back and I went to work at, um, 746 00:34:30,195 --> 00:34:31,485 Dobb Chief Development Center. 747 00:34:31,865 --> 00:34:34,045 And I can't even remember now if he was there 748 00:34:34,105 --> 00:34:35,285 or if I was there first. 749 00:34:35,345 --> 00:34:36,645 But anyhow, it didn't matter. 750 00:34:37,105 --> 00:34:40,365 So there we were again working side by side. 751 00:34:41,385 --> 00:34:45,685 And then, um, we were both involved in the, um, 752 00:34:45,775 --> 00:34:46,805 democratic Party 753 00:34:46,865 --> 00:34:50,565 and we sort of renewed our relationship again that way. 754 00:34:51,425 --> 00:34:54,405 And then after we, I had been at Dobbs for a little bit. 755 00:34:54,665 --> 00:34:57,405 Um, I became the representative 756 00:34:57,665 --> 00:35:00,165 for Scenic State Employees Association there 757 00:35:00,865 --> 00:35:04,085 and I coerced Roland into becoming a member 758 00:35:04,105 --> 00:35:05,685 and he became an active member 759 00:35:05,985 --> 00:35:09,445 and, uh, served as our bylaws chair 760 00:35:09,465 --> 00:35:11,005 and our policy platform. 761 00:35:11,105 --> 00:35:13,565 And I can't tell you what all else sold tickets 762 00:35:14,705 --> 00:35:16,445 or turned his tickets in. 763 00:35:16,465 --> 00:35:18,285 If he didn't get 'em sold, he could buy 'em. 764 00:35:18,285 --> 00:35:20,885 But you can bet your bottom dollar he was going 765 00:35:20,885 --> 00:35:22,285 to have his tickets turned in. 766 00:35:22,465 --> 00:35:24,885 So I always remembered that about him. 767 00:35:24,985 --> 00:35:29,525 But, um, he served on, uh, some state, uh, 768 00:35:29,525 --> 00:35:31,005 committees with scenic too. 769 00:35:32,065 --> 00:35:34,365 And then, um, lo 770 00:35:34,365 --> 00:35:37,725 and behold we went wound up being commissioners together. 771 00:35:38,025 --> 00:35:41,565 So, um, it's funny how the plan has worked, 772 00:35:41,745 --> 00:35:44,405 but he was indeed a close friend 773 00:35:44,785 --> 00:35:46,645 and, um, I'm gonna miss his 774 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:48,125 laugh probably more than anything. 775 00:35:48,235 --> 00:35:50,125 Yeah, he had a distinctive laugh 776 00:35:51,025 --> 00:35:53,005 and uh, he had, his wife has always, 777 00:35:53,025 --> 00:35:54,885 Glenda has always been very supportive. 778 00:35:55,045 --> 00:35:57,325 I got to meet her when I was on the school board 779 00:35:57,325 --> 00:35:59,045 because she worked in the central office. 780 00:35:59,265 --> 00:36:04,005 So, um, it's just tough when we have this to happen. 781 00:36:04,985 --> 00:36:07,765 Um, but he will be missed. 782 00:36:07,825 --> 00:36:08,965 He contributed a lot 783 00:36:09,985 --> 00:36:13,565 and he, um, was dedicated 784 00:36:13,585 --> 00:36:15,325 to the citizens of Lenoir County. 785 00:36:16,225 --> 00:36:18,685 Um, he always tried to do what was best 786 00:36:19,665 --> 00:36:21,685 and if he didn't know, he'd ask the question. 787 00:36:22,025 --> 00:36:24,925 And I admire that instead of, you know, wondering 788 00:36:24,925 --> 00:36:26,245 and thinking about it himself. 789 00:36:26,385 --> 00:36:28,765 And he always, uh, I know he would call me 790 00:36:28,765 --> 00:36:30,925 and ask me questions and I know he talked with, uh, 791 00:36:30,925 --> 00:36:35,205 Michael also, but, um, I'm gonna miss him 792 00:36:35,205 --> 00:36:37,925 as a commissioner and I'm gonna miss him as a friend. 793 00:36:38,985 --> 00:36:42,125 But I know where he is and I know he is happy 794 00:36:42,145 --> 00:36:43,565 and he's not suffering anymore. 795 00:36:44,545 --> 00:36:49,325 And, um, he's watching down overs. So. Thanks Roland. 796 00:36:50,665 --> 00:36:52,005 You will not be forgotten. 797 00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:57,325 Alright, uh, if nobody else has anything, 798 00:36:57,565 --> 00:36:59,485 I would entertain a motion to adjourn. 799 00:37:00,265 --> 00:37:03,845 Motion second, then a motion and a second to adjourn. 800 00:37:03,865 --> 00:37:05,285 All those in favor say aye. 801 00:37:05,605 --> 00:37:09,645 A And all those a opposed, likewise. All right.