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For example, I thought it was a problem. That was just, that was

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just a problem.

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So that's the social concern.

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It's a good idea to say.

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Yeah, well I've talked to it when he came to pick up hisinder and said don't forget about 30 years.

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And then he'd buy 30 in that.

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I was like, okay, let me just remind everybody.

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But I don't know if Ms. Bolton checks her email that anybody takes her email.

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didn't open it.

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I already responded to him, and I concluded you, and I just replied back to the text and essentially told him,

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yes, they're not getting him.

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Okay, but essentially we don't have a say over that.

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We don't get it.

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There's nothing we can do about it if they are.

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They're not going to explode.

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You can't.

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Well, even with Table Cabana, you can't go to them.

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If they please don't close because we don't want you to.

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It doesn't work that way.

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So, but I have, do you make a guess for there?

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Sarah on it.

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Two for the CPI code.

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I don't know.

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I'm sure he did.

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He texted me and said, it doesn't matter.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's okay.

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Are we ready to go?

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No, no, no.

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No, no, no.

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No, no, no.

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No, no.

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to go into the next section and he asked me to do a registration.

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You just want to have a two week period.

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He always leaves at this time and goes back home.

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I know everybody's vacation schedule.

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I'm just teasing him.

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He drives exactly.

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All right.

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Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Lyon Valley

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Crime Control and Prevention Board of Directors meeting.

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Today's Tuesday, June the 2nd, 2026, and approximately 532 in the afternoon, and we do have a

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quorum.

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All city council members are present.

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Not city council right now.

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That's right.

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All the time.

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Control prevention board members are present.

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Thank you for that clarification, city manager, and we'll begin.

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Citizens to be heard is agenda item number two.

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I don't see any citizens in the room.

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So, we will pass then to the consent agenda, 3, 3.1, consideration of the following

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crime control and prevention minutes, August 19th, 20, 25, we have the Crime Control

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and Prevention Board of Directors Minutes.

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Is there any corrections or additions to those minutes?

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And if not, may I have a motion and second to approve?

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I'll make a motion that we approve this, second.

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All right.

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We have a motion by Councillor Compos and a second by Councillor Roscoe to approve consentage

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and a 3.1 S presented.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Any opposed?

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The motion does carry.

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Moving to the regular agenda, presentation and a public hearing for the City of Lamb Valley

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Crime Control and Prevention District, this school year, 2026-27 budget and we have...

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It will be Carol, but I just want to give you a brief calendar.

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and then Carol Gary and our finance director to present.

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Good evening and welcome.

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Good evening Mayor and Council.

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So I kind of wanted to explain why we're here this evening,

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why you're seeing it this early, all of the things.

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And so essentially what happened is at some point,

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the legislation changed and you're supposed

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that your crime control prevention district board,

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which you all function as a crime control prevention district board.

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So right now you're not wearing your Council hat,

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You're functioning as a board that's going to recommend to counsel the crime control prevention district budget and so when we originally set up the crime control prevention you're allowed for your counsel to be

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Both the crime control prevention board, as well as the city council, can be one of the same. And we prefer it that way, because you can control all the money is dedicated to that account. If you had a board, they'd make a recommendation, and the council would still have to do what was best with that budget. And so we've always had it that way. That's the way that it was set up, and it works really well.

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The thing about it was, is, is that you must, the crime control prevention district board must have a public hearing a hundred days before it gets seen in front of the council.

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And so doing the math, your board is supposed to meet a hundred days prior.

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And so that's why you're seeing it tonight and not in August.

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But that was a change in the legislature.

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Yes, but not this last legislator, a while back.

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But this is the first time we're doing it that way.

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And so what happens typically with us sometimes is we get something started, we've had

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Transstaph transition and so we have a new person on, we're trying to figure out your best uses of your funds

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And so in looking at the definition and how we can spend your crime control prevention district funds and we wanted to make it more detailed

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So as we go through this budget, this will be the first time you see this budget, this detailed

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It's tied to programming, and one of the big reasons that we wanted to tie it to programming is one for it to tie in to

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the reason for the sales tax dollars, but secondly, for us to be able to prove to your voters

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that this program is being used for crime control prevention, because they have to vote on this sales tax every seven years or so.

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And then your future, it will come back on the ballot to see if the voters want to continue with this sales tax.

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And so these programs will help y'all make that justification, and that's a one-ascent sales tourist.

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Okay. And so Carol's gonna go through this detail budget with you. You'll see that it's way more detail than you've seen in the past.

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And so we're hitting all of our tickers. We have the public hearing this afternoon.

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As a crime control, you as the board will vote on the resolution. That does not mean you're accepting this budget.

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Remember, you're not functioning as the council, you're functioning as the board.

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So you will vote on that resolution and then the council when you hear this budget then you will make the

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Determination if you want to delete something reduce something move something to a different and so that all you're doing

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You're not voting on it and this is concrete

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This is your essentially like the way planning and zoning works. They make a recommendation to the council

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You're making a recommendation to yourself essentially. So that's the purpose of tonight's presentation

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But I wanted to go over the logistics with the y'all and how we ended up here and the purpose of tonight because I know

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I don't think Miss Merch or Miss Bolton has been a part of the crime control prevention

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in detail like this before so just okay. I'm going to turn over Carol. Okay. Thank you

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Good afternoon Carol and welcome

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Appreciate all yours efforts on not just this budget, but the whole big budget that we just got

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So I know you did a lot effort.

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So to now, as you know, I'll be presenting the Cram Control budget for fiscal year 27.

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The Cram Control is funded by dedicated sales tax.

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This is separate from your general funds.

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These funds are legally restricted to Cram Control Prevention purposes.

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And they're specifically authorized under the Texas Local Government Code Chapter 363.

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Now, we're all the programs most served at Crime Control or Prevention purposes,

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and that's the programs that I'm going to be presented tonight,

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and we'll be going over all of them individually.

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So tonight, I'm proposing two categories.

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One is equipment and technology.

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This one will keep all your officers equipped with your proper safety equipment, and the second one is the low enforcement.

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These category houses, your positions, special events over time, and the program of a facility program.

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All these programs are authorized under the Texas Local Government Code Chapter 365.

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And so this is just the summary of both categories with each of the programs and the total

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program budget would be 669,553.

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So, starting with the first one, the first program under the equipment and technology initiative,

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we have the vehicle replacement program.

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This program will keep our patrol fleet under 100,000 miles.

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So we are proposing for this fiscal year to buy one vehicle for $68,000.

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And for adding $5,000 for vehicle uplifting.

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These will be all the wrapping of the vehicle and just making sure that vehicles are ready for the officer to use.

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Now, each program will have a performance measures.

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So, this is tied back to what Dr. Christophe was saying,

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that every year we're going to present to the board

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with how the program was doing

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and how we've been used in that money

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if it was for crime control or not.

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So, under the vehicle replacement program,

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you'll have three performance measures

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that we're going to present at the end of next fiscal year.

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The first one is vehicles replace versus the numbers schedule annually.

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That's just a number.

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Then the average fleet mileage at time of replacement.

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And the third one is how many vehicles are exceeding the 100,000 miles at the end of that fiscal year?

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And who came up with these performance measures?

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What entity?

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Just based on the program.

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Okay, it's not written in some place that we have to replace them at a hundred.

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That is actually something that we have to do.

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So, a few years ago, we were holding on to them until they broke, we got sued by an

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officer that we weren't providing safe vehicle equipment and so TML came back and recommended.

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And we do hold on to vehicles over the 100,000 miles if the vehicle seems safe.

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We do a safety check, we do all the things.

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You had a, you don't want to do improper maintenance per, you know, that big old manual

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you'll get when you get a car, we don't have a fleet manager for all of your equipment.

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So it's relied on the sergeants and police officers who aren't mechanics.

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And so we have to make sure that the oils changed, the fluids are changed, all of the things done on the vehicle that are required over the 100,000 miles are at 50,000 miles.

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And so we do, we do hold on to vehicles, but the recommendation is to start switching vehicles around 100,000 miles.

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You're also, the vehicles aren't like your everyday vehicles.

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You're not just using them, they're constantly running and so in order to hit those safety

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checks and put our officers in those vehicles to make sure that the engine, in this particular

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case, the engine, explode it or went out, the vehicle stopped in the middle of Band Air

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Rhone.

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He was slammed from behind and it was because we didn't change the, we didn't follow our safety

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protocol.

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And so we've changed that process but there are some vehicles we do hold on to over 100,000 miles

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if we need to, but our goal is to hit that mark if we can't.

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I was not aware that we'd gotten sued.

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It was part of a workers' complaint.

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All right, very good.

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Thank you.

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I've just was curious where that came from.

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Thank you Chief.

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And thank you.

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The next program is the officer safety equipment program.

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These program will fund all your tasers and body cameras that we're going to purchase.

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Now, if my understanding that we don't purchase them annually,

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it's just we're purchasing as they go out of five of your contract.

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And do?

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Yes, chief com.

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We have a good evening.

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Good evening. Welcome. We're glad to hear.

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Mayor and Board.

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We have a five-year contract with Axon for our body cameras.

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At the end of the fifth year, we get all

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All our equipment is resupply, they give it to us.

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This is the best and most accepted way for police equipment to be used because we do

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abuse it and in order to maintain a rotation of good equipment, we have to get into this type

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of contract where we get replacements on a regular basis.

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Because even your equipment that isn't being used is not going to work the same as the new things that are coming out and being developed.

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So, axon has a program and that is what we signed on to.

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Okay.

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They are the most accepted body cameras in the police field.

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So, that's 33,200 for how many body cams.

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So, it's actually more than that.

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This is a portion.

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Oh, this is the portion.

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So, every police officer has a body camera.

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Okay. And then we have to have our spares for our reserves. And then we have to have our spares for the ones that break in the course of doing our duties.

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Okay.

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All right, so.

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We probably have 60, 65.

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Okay, total. That's what I was wondering. How many we have total? Okay. Thank you.

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Moving on to the next program, we have the communications and technology program.

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This program funds two systems. The first one being the Cardinal, RMA service contract.

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These handles every call, this badge, an incident report.

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And you also have your radio airtime for a total of 27,336 dollars.

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The next program is the Cranment Lab Evidence Program.

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This is a focused operational supply program.

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It makes sure that the officers at the crime scene

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never run side of evidence kits.

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That's why we have under this program

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evidence kits at 5,000 evidence processing

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at 6,600 and for a testing at $10,000.

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For a total of $21,600.

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The next program is the CD camera program.

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This is a float camera.

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This is going to be a new camera

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that the chief will explain.

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But I thought we got a grant.

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For the first year.

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For the first year.

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This is for the second year.

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Corrid.

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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That's what I thought.

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But I wanted to clarify.

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I thought it was this year.

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And that concludes the first category.

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That is the equipment and technology category.

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Now we're going to start at the low enforcement one.

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The first program will be the personal engagement program.

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these funds to officers and 50% of your assistant police chief salary.

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This is your largest program at 364,417.

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It also includes the share personal services that we transfer into the general fund,

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and a portion of the liability insurance.

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The next program is the patient.

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Please be interested.

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second, Councillor Combo's had a call in our question.

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So does this include the prior slide, the one you have right there's the one I'm talking

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about?

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Any new officers in here or is it the same as what we were doing last year?

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Okay.

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The same location as that.

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Yes.

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Councillor Marsha.

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So could I ask why we don't have anything in the actual and the budget for the prior years?

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Yeah.

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We've got to have this budget before.

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a new program so we didn't have a budget or this detailed

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budget. I'm not understanding. So you're used to get your crime control

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prevention budget as part of your actual budget, which you'll see in here as

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well I kept that the same, but you didn't have actual programs tied to it. We were

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just allocating officers and equipment over there. And in re-reading the law, it

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really kind of says you should have crime control prevention programs and

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And we grouped everything as the whole budget, as a program, and looking at other cities, wanting to do things different, really kind of trying to make things more detailed, really trying to tie everything in together, I had Carol and Chief worked together to set up these programs based on how we've been budgeting.

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And so the numbers that you see here aren't any really different, but we wanted to allocate some funds from the general fund over into your crime control and in order to...

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Yeah, no, no, we took some money out of your general fund operating and put it in your crime control operating.

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And in order to pay for like evidence kits and stuff that you normally don't see there, we normally pay for just your police office.

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We pay for a lot of personnel out of there.

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And so Carol shifted some money over into there.

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We need to make sure that you're operating what comes in as far as you're revenue and your expenditures all match.

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And so we wanted to make sure that not everything was coming out of general fund.

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That was the direction from the council was to use your other funds.

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make sure you're not increasing that reserve fund in your crime control. We need to use it

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which we agree and so instead of just using it for personnel. Now we bought other things from

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crime control before out of here but we were able to break it down even more and put it's not a lot

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like $30,000 but we were able to really allocate that based on the programs that are over there.

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And so you'll see that as I go through the council presentation you'll see the years change on some of those

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slide here, but the reason why I didn't put anything on the actual

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and budget is because these problems were never

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presented before this way.

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But I'll show you how we had it before.

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Thank you.

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I'm just, I can't, well, this personal enhancement program

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support another half-time employee or, you're out.

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You have a healthy fund balance.

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That's why I always wonder.

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You're, you don't.

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Well, it's 600 and something.

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That's your total expenditures, so in order for you to fund another officer, you're...

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We have to have operating revenues. So, right now, your operating expenditures are going to match your operating

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revenues. This budget is a balanced budget.

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I'm just asking. I know we can address this when we're going through the budget. I'm the new higher

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expense. So, do we not send them to psychological testing or do any processing expenses before we

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to hire, or is it in another category?

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No, even, right.

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With under our contractual services,

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it's under a contractual services.

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So we've sent them for psychological testing and stuff.

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Yes, you have to be required by the law, too.

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Yes, Councillor.

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Compass.

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Thank you, I'm making a notice.

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So I do see what you're saying about your operating revenue,

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having the expenditures, not exceed that,

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where we're going over is on the capital out there.

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And that's where the balance is coming down to 600,000.

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But would we be using funds like this for the future police

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radios?

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Would this be a source of how we would pay?

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Because it's only, this only relates to the police department.

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We still have, when we upgrade radios,

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my understanding is that fire cannot be used.

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Funds could not be used out of this.

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So, you know, we can't, you don't take from your reserve fund to fund an employee.

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So, you're operating and your expenditures, that's a wash.

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You don't add an employee, because operating is, your employee is continued operating expenses.

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Now, we are bringing down your crime control reserve fund, but I'm doing it to where you're not,

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you're not going to zero out that account, and whoever told you all that that's the way you should do it is just wrong.

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And so, and the big reason for that is, is you have other things coming up.

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We have the property room coming up.

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You have radios coming up.

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You, at some point, as we're shifting your police officers into general fund, their cars,

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everything that goes along with those police officers are going to have to come from somewhere.

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And they're going to probably have to come from here, because you're not going to have

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not in your general fund reserve in order to support those officers shipped over.

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I think what would be helpful.

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I know this is the first time we see this and I want to commend you.

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I was very impressed by this format, but you know, if we could have similar to our regular

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budget, you know, the capital outlays that we're projecting, that would help us as well

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as we see.

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Okay, there are 600,000, but we can see the future, hey, this is what?

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that's in your capital, right?

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This is what the uses are in the future.

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Thank you for that.

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Yes, and it kind of is already in the other room.

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It is in the other budget.

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So like, because you're seeing this as the board,

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the board isn't going to spend really the capital,

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your council's going to see the capital.

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So we have that in your or other budget.

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Now the next program is the special events over time,

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detailed program.

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This program is not funded.

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However, I wanted to present it to the board already to have set up a program that will

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fund any overtime of officers if we have an city event.

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So by having the program already said, we can potentially, in future events, use or fund

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this personal overtime.

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And these will give us a little bit more options on how to use the money.

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So how much are you recommending that we're right now for this proposed budget is going to be zero

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I'm just proposing to you saying in the future right so I'm just want to present the programs as well as the budget

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This right now isn't over time. I mean, you have it categorized

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We have another time buzzing in earth wise right over time for the July so so that's everything will be here

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No

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So the police officers that are here under crime control if we decide

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The reason I put it in here at zero is I don't know what you're going to do with your fourth of July event

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If you come in and you say I want to hold 180,000 fine the money and we got to figure that out

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I need to pay for over time

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This gives me another portion. You're not going to pay all of your overtime out of here

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You're going to pay for the officers that are paid out of here

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Those four officers or five officers that are in the crime control. They're over time to attend that event

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there overtime would be paid out of here and so I had it we had it set up for the potential

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of that possibly happening in the future if I have a crime control prevention district

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officer and we had the holiday lighting and they're going to be those are the officers

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are going to be attending that event and they're going to be here at overtime I would budget

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for their overtime in there right now I don't have these officers scheduled at any of those

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events. But I was also preparing, so I don't have to create a whole

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other section and do all of that. If you change your mind on the

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fourth or you want to add a different event, I'm prepared to be able to

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do that if we need to. So but it would only be for the officers that are

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budgeted from that account. Okay. Thank you. Councillor Compos. And just so

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we're all clear. This is just for special events because in the regular

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expenditures, you do have overtime. That's not, that's just related to the ordinary over

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course. Correct. This is a just for CD events for crime control situation. And that's

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when the overtime will. Okay, so it's not the regular special events that we have listed

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them in the budget. It's outside of that. Okay. I didn't know that. That's why it's zero because

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we don't know that yet. There's $34,000 of overtime.

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And

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the last problem that we have under the law enforcement is going to be the proper

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room.

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This is just a portion of your proper room, which is $100,000, which equals to the 20% of

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the total project that we have on the police, the general fund, and the forfeiture fund.

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And so now on this slide, this is how we usually present the budget, that consummant, consummant merge was asking.

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So we have your actual, your budget, your estimated, and your budget for 2027.

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At the beginning of the phone balance for budget 2027, we have 189,892 dollars.

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Then we're projecting sales tax of 421,983, which is going to give you a total resources of 1.3 million.

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And then your total expenditures, which ties back to your total expenditures on your programs, is the 669,553 that includes your share personnel services to the general fund.

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And right here, you'll see your capital outlet detailed of a 223,000.

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Okay. Yes, Councillor.

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Yes, Councillor.

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That's the 100,000.

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If you take out the 223,000, you're within that 446,000.

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You're spending this 223 against the blood valve at the beginning of that.

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And that represents what the 100,000 to the plan and what else.

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It's going to be the vehicle, $68,000, the vehicles are placed in a $5,000 block camera, $1,000.

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All right.

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And so then you've reduced your capital from that amount from $800,000 to $600,000.

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And then in the 10-year capital that I've presented to y'all, I have the possible property room built out.

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I have your potential radio payoff and we conservatively estimated for the radios that we're

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going to have to purchase some future purchase of guns if we're working on a deal right

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now for trading so that may not actually we may not even need that money but I have it scheduled

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in that 10 year which we presented to y'all back in April and so if it's easier for y'all

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what I can do is after this budget I can try to see if it can flow a little bit better

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But since this is, you're not functioning as a council in this meeting, you are functioning as a crime control prevention in this meeting.

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And so I wanted to make sure if you continue, may or if you continue to wash, like the way that you are here, you're not building your reserve fund, you're getting in your revenue and your expenditures.

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So you're not going to get any more.

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So anything that you have in your, that's all you have sitting in the savings for this account.

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And so after you've programmed what is scheduled to be programmed over the next five years,

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that 667,000 will essentially eventually go down if you continue to have a wash in that department.

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Okay, very good.

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Okay, thank you.

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Now here, this one is going to break down the budget down by expenditure type rather than the program.

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So, here you'll see it line by line, how it ties back to each of the programs.

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Now, the total expenditures is at 585,000, but you just have to add the personnel

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share and you will match the 669,553 and total expenditures.

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And lastly, this one is a comparison between fiscal year 26 and 27, the variances and how

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when either up or down. Most of them are going to be going up because there's a new on this budget,

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so that's why the variance is high. That's the previous year. Okay. And that's it.

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That can do the presentation. Okay. Thank you. We do have a public hearing. So I will

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email us, there's no other questions from my colleagues. Let's open up the public hearing at

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6 o'clock and see if we have anyone that would like to comment on this crime control and prevention budget.

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Okay. Seeing no one that all close the public hearing at 601 and stand in line on 4.2 for a resolution from the board.

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We do need to approve this resolution.

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Correct.

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So let me read it.

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4.2 presentation, discussion, and possible action on a resolution approving and adopting the fiscal year

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2027 budget for the Leon Valley Crime Control and Prevention District from the Leon Valley Crime Control

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Board.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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All right.

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We have a motion by Councillor Roscoe and a second by Councillor Compos to approve this

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resolution for the fiscal year 2027 budget for the Lamb Valley crime control and prevention

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district. Any further questions or comments? All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?

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The motion does carry. Okay. Thank you all very much.

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Do appreciate it. And without further ado, then we'll move to adjourn this meeting at 602 on Tuesday,

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June the 2nd. Okay.

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Okay. I was going to ask Danielle if she she did the pledge

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Okay. So let's start the next meeting. Welcome to our judges. We're so glad you're all here this evening. Thank you.

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We appreciate it. Ms. Bolton, would you say the pledge with us and I just wanted to go ahead and open up the meeting first?

441
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Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Lamb Valley City Council regular meeting.

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Today's Tuesday, June 2, 20, 26, and it's approximately 603 in the afternoon, and we do have all city council members present and I've asked Councillor Daniel Bolton to please lead us in the pledge if everyone will stand and they're already standing.

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Okay, thank you.

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I flew to the United States of America, and two of the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, in the visible liberty and justice for all.

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That was weird.

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We're acting to the pledge.

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My phone.

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Okay.

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Does it, I mean, just started talking to me, it's off, you know?

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Okay, agenda item number two is citizens to be heard, any citizens in the chambers that

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like to address the council at this time. Please come forward. You have up to three minutes to speak.

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And seeing no one then we will move to presentation 3.1.

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Precentation of the statement of a pointed officer and the oath of office to presiding

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Municipal Court Judge Lair Lawrence G. Morales and Municipal Court Judge Leslie Cassan.

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So if you all please join us in the front. Thank you.

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Okay, let's see.

458
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:59,970
Your honor, if you'll please raise your right hand in the name and by the authority of the state of Texas, Ocephalph.

459
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:20,640
The duties of the office as the judge of the municipal court as the city of Leon Valley.

460
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,780
Bear County of the state of Texas.

461
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,300
Bear County of the state of Texas.

462
00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:26,240
And will to the best of my ability?

463
00:45:26,380 --> 00:45:27,980
And will to the best of my ability?

464
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,100
Preserve, protect, and defend.

465
00:45:30,420 --> 00:45:31,680
Preserve, protect, and defend.

466
00:45:31,820 --> 00:45:34,700
The Constitution and the laws of the United States.

467
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,140
The Constitution and the Law of the United States.

468
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,260
And of this state, so help me God.

469
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,800
And of this state, so help me God.

470
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:42,380
Congratulations, Your Honor.

471
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,940
Let's give the judge, I mean,

472
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,500
do you all know how long we've been honored for

473
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:49,660
to have Judge Barrelis, he and I were just talking less.

474
00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:59,700
go ahead and work. Well, first of all, you know, first of all, you know, first of all for 44 years has been a privilege.

475
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:15,820
It's because they keep me in the back. That's why. Now, but it's really been a pleasure to serve the city of Neil Belly, and I'm honored to be re-appointed.

476
00:46:15,820 --> 00:46:24,580
Certainly, I want to show my appreciation to not only the mayor, but the city council members.

477
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:31,220
In addition to that, a little history back in 1982, I got appointed by Judge Ken Alley.

478
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,760
And he would be the S, and it's been 22 appointments in thin.

479
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,680
So once again, I want to thank you all very much for the reconsideration.

480
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:55,400
It's certainly very humbling and very confident and certainly I know that Judge Cassana and I will strive to uphold the laws of the state of Texas and the ordinances of the city of the Hyundai.

481
00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:57,520
Once again, thank you very much.

482
00:47:29,950 --> 00:47:35,410
Thank you and good evening and welcome with so glad you're here and you've been with us now for

483
00:47:35,410 --> 00:47:36,450
how long about six years.

484
00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:42,750
This will be going for eight, so this will be your fourth year,

485
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:47,510
two year, two year,

486
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:51,350
and repeat after me after I say this.

487
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:55,350
In the name of name and by the authority of the State of Texas, Oath of Office.

488
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:58,650
I, let's say to Son, do solemnly swear,

489
00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:01,470
do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute,

490
00:48:01,790 --> 00:48:03,110
that I will faithfully execute.

491
00:48:03,250 --> 00:48:06,670
The duties of the Office of the Judge of the Municipal Court,

492
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:09,850
the duties of the Office of the Judge of the Municipal Court,

493
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:13,250
of the City of Lamb Valley, Bear County, and the State of Texas,

494
00:48:13,630 --> 00:48:16,470
of the City of Lamb Valley, Bear County of the State of Texas,

495
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:18,630
and will to the best of my ability.

496
00:48:18,850 --> 00:48:20,510
And will to the best of my ability.

497
00:48:20,810 --> 00:48:22,350
Preserve, protect and defend.

498
00:48:22,590 --> 00:48:23,950
Preserve, protect and defend.

499
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:27,010
The Constitution and the laws of the United States.

500
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:29,870
The Constitution and the laws of the United States.

501
00:48:30,030 --> 00:48:31,690
And of this state, so help me God.

502
00:48:31,890 --> 00:48:33,250
And of this state, so help me God.

503
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:34,350
Congratulations.

504
00:48:34,750 --> 00:48:35,110
So glad.

505
00:48:36,810 --> 00:48:37,650
Thank you.

506
00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:39,030
Would you like to thank you?

507
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:40,610
I'm always putting people in the spot.

508
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:41,050
I'm sorry.

509
00:48:41,410 --> 00:48:41,610
No.

510
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:42,990
Well, thank you, Mayor.

511
00:48:43,110 --> 00:48:43,610
Thank you.

512
00:48:43,610 --> 00:48:47,770
the council members that appreciate the opportunity to continue to serve the city of Lyon Valley.

513
00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:53,030
It was Judge Morales said it's an honor and a privilege to serve the city and it's

514
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:58,690
just very humbling to be asked to be re-appointed and it's a privilege to serve the city.

515
00:48:59,010 --> 00:49:03,410
Very grateful for that opportunity and I want to thank not just the council and the mayor,

516
00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:10,790
but I want to thank Dr. Calzada and her staff for all that they do to support the court and all our court staff.

517
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:17,230
And our bailiffs, they do an excellent job, they were a lot of hats, so we're very grateful for them because we can't do our job without their support.

518
00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:21,310
So, very grateful for them and again, thank you for the opportunity, it's a privilege and an honor.

519
00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:22,270
And thank you again.

520
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:23,410
All right, great, very glad.

521
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:25,590
I need to, for you just give me your signature.

522
00:49:26,110 --> 00:49:26,430
Right there.

523
00:49:52,810 --> 00:49:54,170
I want to picture something.

524
00:49:54,370 --> 00:49:55,130
Anything else?

525
00:49:55,310 --> 00:49:56,090
You have one of those.

526
00:49:57,350 --> 00:50:00,470
I'd ask you about how it was going with the court and...

527
00:50:00,470 --> 00:50:01,610
It's going great.

528
00:50:01,810 --> 00:50:04,490
You know, once again, I need to echo what Jessica Sobsay.

529
00:50:04,510 --> 00:50:05,830
Our staff is great.

530
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:16,290
You know, we couldn't do our job without them, so you know, you know, you know, Sonia has been with us probably for the very long time.

531
00:50:16,330 --> 00:50:20,830
Tiffany's doing a great job in the net and and well they're doing a super job.

532
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:25,330
So we want to thank you for providing this very competent staff.

533
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:29,910
Yeah, one of the things I'd be remiss of I didn't introduce my wife.

534
00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:35,700
Okay.

535
00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:36,700
All right.

536
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,020
So I know Pickel's going to want that picture.

537
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:41,240
Okay.

538
00:50:51,070 --> 00:50:51,270
Okay.

539
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:51,610
Thank you.

540
00:50:54,450 --> 00:50:54,810
Thank you.

541
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:56,210
Thank you.

542
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:05,860
Okay.

543
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:14,710
Okay.

544
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:17,720
Thank you.

545
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:28,140
And thanks to Judge Morales and Judge Gatham again for their service.

546
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:29,440
We appreciate it.

547
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:37,420
it will move to 3.2, presentation, discussion, and possible direction to staff on the FY2027 community

548
00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:47,080
budget survey preliminary results. And we have Sarah. We'll call our economic development director

549
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:52,460
here to present. Thank you. It says on my thing, Dr. Caldera, so when I stand, look up and it's

550
00:51:52,460 --> 00:51:56,920
not her, then I'll always have to kind of like, oh, who is that? So anyway, welcome. We're so glad

551
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,880
Thank you.

552
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,300
Good evening.

553
00:51:58,460 --> 00:51:59,320
Council and Mayor.

554
00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:04,260
So today I'll be providing the preliminary results presentation for the Community Budget

555
00:52:04,260 --> 00:52:04,700
Survey.

556
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:05,720
I apologize.

557
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,460
I should have some PowerPoint slides ready for you coming in shortly.

558
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:10,780
All right.

559
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:15,780
So City Council is being asked to review preliminary results for the FY2027 Community

560
00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:19,640
Budget Survey and possible direction to staff following the results.

561
00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:28,650
So as of June 2nd, so this morning we have collected over 74 eligible, eligible survey

562
00:52:28,650 --> 00:52:34,130
responses, this included nine paper service missions, submissions, these were ones that were picked

563
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:38,730
up at CD Hall in the public library, and then we also had 65 online service

564
00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:43,610
submissions. It's important to note here that residents could have two responses for

565
00:52:43,610 --> 00:52:49,330
households. We did also review all of those addresses to ensure that they were within

566
00:52:49,330 --> 00:52:55,970
CDOBLY on Valley. We did have one paper submission that was ineligible due to its address

567
00:52:55,970 --> 00:53:05,750
outside of it. All right so onto the results. So your first question of the survey was regarding city infrastructure

568
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:11,230
and operations. It asked what are your top priorities we should consider in our upcoming fiscal year

569
00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:16,810
2627 budget. Please choose an order of importance with one being the most important and 10 being the least

570
00:53:16,810 --> 00:53:24,570
important. Our top three ranked priorities based on the budget survey. So number one was continue to

571
00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:27,270
for improving water and sewer infrastructure needs.

572
00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:31,150
This was at that cost of $40 million dollars.

573
00:53:31,890 --> 00:53:34,810
Ranked second, with that weighted score was increased

574
00:53:34,810 --> 00:53:38,410
but police personnel by three due to the fire

575
00:53:38,410 --> 00:53:40,490
in EMS Department increasing personnel by three

576
00:53:40,490 --> 00:53:41,910
of the last fiscal year cycle.

577
00:53:42,670 --> 00:53:46,050
This was an estimated cost of $320,000 annually

578
00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:49,390
with salary and benefits and continues funding.

579
00:53:49,930 --> 00:53:52,830
And then, Ranked number three, we had park rest room

580
00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:58,430
renovations to comply with 88 requirements with a cost of about 300,000.

581
00:53:59,990 --> 00:54:05,690
And so I've included all of the ranked priority items just so you can see their range.

582
00:54:06,310 --> 00:54:09,210
And you can tell it was a very close call for some of these.

583
00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:13,850
But I just wanted to include those scores in here to show you the weighted averages,

584
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:17,550
or the weighted scores, excuse me, and how those ranks compared with one another.

585
00:54:18,210 --> 00:54:21,730
And you'll see all 10 were included for the city and infrastructure operations.

586
00:54:22,610 --> 00:54:28,990
But I'll pause here, and I didn't abbreviate those priorities just to include them all on this slide.

587
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:38,670
Alrighty, and then moving on to survey question number two, quality of life initiative.

588
00:54:39,070 --> 00:54:43,810
So what are your top priorities we should consider in our upcoming fiscal year 2627 budget?

589
00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:47,990
Please choose an order of importance with one being the most important and six being the least important.

590
00:54:49,690 --> 00:54:56,590
For this question, community members ranked number one the major erosion project in the

591
00:54:56,590 --> 00:55:00,730
Humor and Natural Area Park in order to reflect the sink to see of the natural and wildlife

592
00:55:00,730 --> 00:55:03,130
area and historical homes that embarked.

593
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:06,310
This was estimated at a cost of $2 to $3.5 million.

594
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:15,710
They ranked second, the $1.4 million forced Oak's pool remodel with a city cost of $752,000.

595
00:55:15,710 --> 00:55:19,230
estimated in a grant-funded for about the same.

596
00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:24,530
Now, for their ranked three item, it was the saving community events for the 4th of July,

597
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:29,150
which was a cost of $150,000 to $200,000,

598
00:55:29,950 --> 00:55:35,430
or the 75th anniversary celebration with a cost of $100,000 to $130,000.

599
00:55:37,410 --> 00:55:42,030
And then you'll have a complete ranking of all of those priority items on this slide,

600
00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:59,130
showing from 1 through 6, where each item came in the ranking, similar, you know, the scores were fairly similar on a couple of these items, particularly the saving community events and recycled waterline, you'll see it was a pretty close call there.

601
00:55:59,570 --> 00:56:05,450
And then again, I did abbreviate the names of those items just so they could be included in this slide.

602
00:56:09,070 --> 00:56:11,070
I'll pause there just so everyone can review.

603
00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:11,150
And

604
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:22,760
we also did ask what ask respondents, what other questions or comments they should

605
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,480
we should keep in mind as we prepare a budget.

606
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:30,540
This was the respondents could, it was a blank line item, they could enter whatever they

607
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:30,880
wanted.

608
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,960
It was an optional question, it wasn't required, like the other two questions.

609
00:56:35,540 --> 00:56:41,740
So we did have about 39 out of 74 respondents actually answer this question.

610
00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:45,780
And from those prompts, we kind of synthesized what the major themes were.

611
00:56:46,540 --> 00:56:55,240
This included maintaining improving parks, recreation and transportation, infrastructure, police and public safety were emphasized along with water system needs.

612
00:56:55,940 --> 00:57:00,080
We had some highlight events, public art and finding new revenue sources.

613
00:57:00,620 --> 00:57:09,560
And then a few mentions of neighborhood pest control and the need for transparency and accessibility when it comes to city council initiatives and things like that.

614
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:19,800
So far, the fiscal impact is not, again, we're still in budget conversations, but this is just to help educate and influence your decisions over the next couple of months.

615
00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:26,740
And then regarding how these fit into the state strategic goals and objectives for citizen involvement.

616
00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:38,760
This is our citizen involvement goal to actively engage in empower residents by fostering a culture of civic participation, open dialogue and collaborative decision making, with the objective of expanding public engagement opportunities.

617
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:46,640
All right, and that's all I have for you today, and I think for good to go to discussion.

618
00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:55,740
Thank you. I appreciate it. I just wish we would have had a little bit higher than what 74.

619
00:57:56,180 --> 00:58:01,020
I mean, but it's interesting. I mean, you know, interesting.

620
00:58:01,580 --> 00:58:05,820
Any comments before we move on? I don't know how this is going to be.

621
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:14,660
Okay, on this budget, right, yeah, or I'm thinking of Saturday too, so. Okay, they're good.

622
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,600
Thank you so much, Sarah. Yes.

623
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,260
So how did you come up with the weighted score? How is that calculated?

624
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:28,960
Absolutely. So you'll take, depending on the question right, so for number one, I believe we had 10, so sorry.

625
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,600
So

626
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:41,620
you have 10 ranked priorities, for instance, if someone ranked, is for instance the support

627
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:46,980
water and sewer infrastructure that ranking would get a multiple of 10, as they ranked

628
00:58:46,980 --> 00:58:53,300
it as number one. And then what we did is we tallied that score to see the overall weighted score.

629
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:59,660
And I'm sorry I'm about it exploiting that, but yeah, so each of those rankings were assigned a number,

630
00:58:59,660 --> 00:59:08,980
10 being the highest, so if you ranked it number one, as your highest priority, it would get a score of 10, and then we would add all of those numbers up and divide them by the total respondents.

631
00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:28,540
So if I'm understanding all 74 responses were ranked by how they ranked them and multiplied by everybody's first thing got 10 points and everybody's second thing got nine points.

632
00:59:28,540 --> 00:59:32,400
and then you average the 74 responses.

633
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:33,420
Yeah. Okay.

634
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,140
So for the number one's a good example.

635
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,100
I think that had about 525 as like a total score.

636
00:59:40,820 --> 00:59:42,900
So we added up all of those.

637
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,840
That ranked as number one.

638
00:59:45,140 --> 00:59:47,740
Number two, that ranked support water and sewer infrastructure

639
00:59:47,740 --> 00:59:49,380
at those individual ranking.

640
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,560
Added them all up and then divided that.

641
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,060
Whatever that amount was for number one.

642
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:54,760
I think it was like 525 or something.

643
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:57,220
By that 74 amount of respondents.

644
00:59:57,220 --> 00:59:59,980
because this was a required question, so we did receive a hunt.

645
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:21,160
So, how many of the responses included two per address? So, like trying to get an idea of a family response, was this 74 individuals or were the majority of a more than one from an address, or kind of a mixed bag?

646
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:41,500
did you have people that just I guess you couldn't leave anything blank right you had to do

647
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:47,180
one through ten that was just the way it was you had to so you couldn't leave you couldn't

648
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:53,380
I only want three and forget about the rest right on my survey especially and then the

649
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:58,640
paper surveys we just had good luck that no one responded with blank questions on those two questions

650
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,220
They did fill it out to either 1, 2, 6.

651
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Okay, very good.

652
01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:04,980
Anything else?

653
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,860
All right, well, thank you so much.

654
01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:08,660
There, I do appreciate your efforts.

655
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,960
All righty, thank you.

656
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:20,620
All right, so the next presentation is 3.3.

657
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:25,240
Presentation, discussion and workshop on an ordinance related

658
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,940
to the fiscal year 2627 proposed budget.

659
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,380
This is our first reading as required by the city charter

660
01:01:33,380 --> 01:01:40,960
and Dr. Kolder will present this evening and just FYI the council will really do a deep

661
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:48,480
dive this Saturday on the budget and I think as I told the manager everybody can you

662
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,700
can ask your questions I think I'm going to delay mine until then just so we can get an

663
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:57,620
over just because we have a big agenda but that's just me but if you have any questions

664
01:01:57,620 --> 01:02:02,160
go ahead and stop in the middle of it and raise your hand is that how you'd like to do

665
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,100
I think that's usually what we do to if you have anything like I know.

666
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:07,640
This is an overview.

667
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,060
There's a lot of unknown factors when you're presenting early on in the year.

668
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,220
And I'll kind of touch on those as we go through the budget.

669
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,300
The council's request was to move the budget as early as we can.

670
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,360
And so we start presenting your capital in April.

671
01:02:20,780 --> 01:02:23,480
This is the earliest we can is the first meeting in June.

672
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,420
But most cities don't really start until July.

673
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,760
August timeframe when they really kind of start presenting to the general public.

674
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,000
I think last year we didn't get this first meeting of China.

675
01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:34,600
I'm always.

676
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,700
As your manager has started presenting your capital in April,

677
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:40,920
I think some of you all wanted us to start looking like early on,

678
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:41,820
like January and we're like,

679
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,480
no, we're in the throws of just getting off of one budget

680
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,500
and getting started on another.

681
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,820
So June is probably a good time frame,

682
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,180
but it is totally in the year.

683
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,060
We don't know if you're new revenue rate.

684
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:55,580
We just kind of got your property valuations in.

685
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,620
And so I'm going to go, I'm going to go very quickly

686
01:02:58,620 --> 01:03:05,960
because it is a very long presentation and my big thing for y'all to take from this budget

687
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:11,660
present. If I teach y'all anything is for y'all not to use your reserve fund for ongoing

688
01:03:11,660 --> 01:03:19,220
operating expenses. That's what I want to drill into y'all between now and the end of this budget

689
01:03:19,220 --> 01:03:25,520
conversation, because I feel like we keep circling back to that conversation and I may not

690
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,400
be here forever, and I think one of the, not mistakes, but one of the downfalls is in

691
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,560
the past, sometimes you've used your reserve fund in order to balance your budget.

692
01:03:34,780 --> 01:03:40,840
If you are using your reserve fund to balance your budget in any of your funds, you have

693
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,560
an unbalanced budget.

694
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,220
So for, when we say, oh, we have a balanced budget and you've used your reserve funds to cover

695
01:03:49,220 --> 01:03:54,600
your operating expense in reality, it is an unbalanced budget, and so that's what I'm

696
01:03:54,600 --> 01:04:01,620
very hard. I'm going to keep repeating that. We have the budget session every meeting between now and the end until y'all adopt.

697
01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:07,160
I'm going to drill that into y'all. You do not use your reserve fund for ongoing operating expenses.

698
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:19,060
All right. So the budget is a little bit different than what y'all are used to seeing. Carol did a great job.

699
01:04:19,060 --> 01:04:26,640
we kind of wanted to start updating it, kind of taking a look at how we present and so if

700
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,560
there's something that we're missing that you would like to see, you know, just let us know

701
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:38,080
we're more than willing to kind of add that. So if you're at the Laurenum Tax Impact last year

702
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:44,600
at the beginning of the year we were looking at a loss evaluations of about $46 million last year.

703
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:53,020
After all your pills and everything came through, you actually had a loss of valuation of $53 million, not $46.

704
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:59,220
So after the appeals and everything went through, last year your valuations were down 53 mil.

705
01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:12,620
And so this year, your beginning is $5 million less, so your projected beginning for your property tax is $5 million less than the way you started last year.

706
01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:19,840
So from last year's beginning to this year's beginning, you're already kind of starting off in a deficit as far as projected property valuations.

707
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:28,380
Based on the projections we're anticipating another 41 million dollar property valuation loss for this coming year.

708
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,480
This is the breakdown of the 5 million, so again that is the beginning valuations.

709
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,780
That's the difference.

710
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:47,220
And then if you want to see the 41 million dollar breakdown, I can give that one to you too.

711
01:05:49,060 --> 01:05:50,180
So, just so you know.

712
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,840
These are your property tax.

713
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:56,040
During the budget conversation last year, because it comes up every year,

714
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:03,040
.54 is the highest property tax we've seen in over 20 years, and that's just not correct information.

715
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,940
Back in 2014, 2015, you were sitting at .58.

716
01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:12,960
it's not on this slide. I only went back 10 years here. That was the renovation.

717
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,020
And so it's still your bond. It's still your property.

718
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,920
And so we broke it down here. Here's your INS and your M&O.

719
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,980
And so that is so scene point five four is not is not a correct statement.

720
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,480
You've had in 2016 you were sitting at point five five point five five.

721
01:06:31,580 --> 01:06:34,860
You were at point five five point five four before point five three.

722
01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:46,860
The lowest you've had in 20 years is your 0.48 absolutely, but 0.54 is not the highest you've had in your so when people come out and say that's the highest that's that's incorrect

723
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:53,020
You've had 0.58 three years in a row and it's again, it's not on here. I can give you the spreadsheet for it

724
01:06:53,020 --> 01:07:03,920
But over 20 years you the highest you've seen is 0.58 you've had 0.56 for several years and so I just wanted to spell that rumor that this is the highest property tax rate

725
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:10,560
That you've seen because what I do think is going to happen is your valuations came in at 41 million dollars

726
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:19,000
Coming in another additional 41 million dollars less. I do think your known new revenue rate is going to come in about one or two cents higher than 0.54

727
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:27,780
So I'm preparing you for that. I do think that when we get that number and it's going to come in at closer to 0.56 and that will be your new. I could be wrong

728
01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:31,920
What it what has been our highest tax rate number?

729
01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:40,480
That was, that was when we got the bond to renovate City Hall and add the third apartment.

730
01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:43,200
Is that correct?

731
01:07:44,060 --> 01:07:45,000
That was around that time.

732
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:51,880
So you, in 2013, so even before your bond, you were sitting at 0.57.

733
01:07:54,120 --> 01:08:03,460
2014, 2015, you were at 0.58, 2016, your 0.57, 2017, your 0.56, 2018, your 0.55,

734
01:08:03,460 --> 01:08:11,920
is 25, 2000 to 19.552.24.253 5.232 and then you went to your 48.

735
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,720
So, again, even though, yes, it was for your bond.

736
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:18,940
It was your INS.

737
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:27,660
The idea, or the concept of y'all not pain, a higher tax rate is incorrect statement.

738
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:38,580
you'll have. You absolutely have an even before your bond, and in 2006, so take out any kind

739
01:08:38,580 --> 01:08:46,560
of ionistic and that time from your pain point 5-3. So, your pain point 5-3 even before a bond,

740
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:57,640
just your M&O, what would make you think with now having debt, as well as increase in your

741
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:04,060
higher than you were in 2006. So I just want to make sure because we get the people that come out

742
01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:11,040
and they say this is the highest it's ever been and that's just an incorrect statement. Over 20 years

743
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:17,200
you've had higher tax rate in order to support your your M&O, your maintenance and operations. Yes,

744
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,580
we had the bond. Yes, it was sitting higher but even before your bond you were sitting at point

745
01:09:21,580 --> 01:09:28,480
by 30 and that was in 2006. So I just want to make sure that we understand because I do think

746
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:32,260
and it's not me. I'm not telling you you need to increase your tax rate. I will tell you

747
01:09:32,260 --> 01:09:37,580
though whatever your known new revenue rate is, it's important for you to adopt whatever that

748
01:09:37,580 --> 01:09:43,280
is. And I do have a feeling with the additional valuation loss that it's going to be higher.

749
01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:46,860
Yes. Councillor Compos and then I have a comment.

750
01:09:46,860 --> 01:09:57,180
And just for clarification, we do not the city staff nor the council calculate that new,

751
01:09:57,180 --> 01:09:57,740
no revenue.

752
01:09:57,780 --> 01:09:58,440
That is correct.

753
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:04,480
It is given to us by the county and in the pended agency beyond us.

754
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,960
So just to the same amount of money we got last year to this year.

755
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:11,620
That's supposed to be, I know, I understand.

756
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,840
But I just want to let, I think something that was important is that when we went out for

757
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:27,620
bond for the buildings, the citizens voted like 62% to pass it, and they all, and part of the

758
01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:33,740
education process was, your tax rate is going to be raised at least five cents. And it was,

759
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:40,400
but that's what the people wanted. So, I mean, I just wanted to say that it wasn't out of the

760
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,940
clear blue, it was for a purpose. Correct. So, and I want to make sure that y'all understand

761
01:10:44,940 --> 01:10:49,980
that in 2006, even before the bond with no voter approval, you were sitting at 0.53.

762
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,800
So, again, you're penny higher than what you were in that particular case.

763
01:10:56,140 --> 01:11:01,080
So, I mean, to jump to the conclusion to say, the voters approved that tax increase because of the bond initiative.

764
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,200
Yeah, that's an adequate conversation.

765
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:09,460
But before then, your tax rate wasn't far off from where it is now before the bond.

766
01:11:09,820 --> 01:11:13,380
And so, I just want to make sure that, because everybody will say,

767
01:11:13,380 --> 01:11:17,740
we want to we're okay with the tax increase because that will come up we're okay with

768
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:22,480
the tax increase if it supports an initiative I want to do I'm okay with the tax increase

769
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:26,860
for ten million dollars to support the water infrastructure and they go and they vote the

770
01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:31,940
increase your taxes in order to support that bond initiative but that reflects your INS that

771
01:11:31,940 --> 01:11:36,920
that affects your debt service for that I just want to make sure that when people come out

772
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:42,380
and they're saying well we've never paid because that's a state they don't go into hey this is

773
01:11:42,380 --> 01:11:45,640
it's broken down. They're just making a blanketed statement that this is the highest

774
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:52,760
tax rate they've ever paid. That's not an accurate statement. Two, you're not far off from

775
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:58,680
where you were before. Now, the reason that that's happened is because your property evaluations

776
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,940
have gone up. You've also added more property. You've added apartment complexes. You've added

777
01:12:03,940 --> 01:12:12,360
some property improvement. And so it allowed you. And when in 2023, when the council decided to take

778
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:18,160
the point for eight tax rate. It wasn't necessarily a wrong situation. Your property

779
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:25,180
valuations were in the air. We were in flux of revenue. It was an appropriate move

780
01:12:25,180 --> 01:12:31,380
at the time for what was happening at the time. But when you hit 0.548, it's hard to go to

781
01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:36,700
the taxpayer and say, oh, your property valuations went down. So at the time, everybody was like,

782
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:40,920
oh, property valuations are up. We need to adopt this lower tax rate because we're getting

783
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,840
enough money. Now that it's flipped, everybody doesn't want to go back to where it needs to be

784
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:50,500
when your property valuations have dropped. Because the conversation that was happening back then,

785
01:12:50,580 --> 01:12:55,820
property values will never go down. They're always going to go up. They're never going to go down.

786
01:12:56,100 --> 01:13:00,940
So they adopted the 0.48 because your property valuations went through the roof. As everybody

787
01:13:00,940 --> 01:13:07,280
did, all across San Antonio San Antonio adopted a lower tax rate. I mean, it was a whole conversation.

788
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,800
You're sitting in a different market now and your property valuations over the last two years have dropped

789
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:19,960
So then that means your tax rate has to compete with that same property just like you did just like the it's the same argument

790
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:26,440
You had the year that you dropped it property valuations are up. We should lower the tax rate great property valuations are down

791
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:32,220
You need to increase your tax rate in order to compensate for that the same argument. It's just flipped and

792
01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:35,600
So right now you're sitting at the excuse excuse me just a second counselor

793
01:13:36,580 --> 01:13:45,620
And I also have a comment, would you, well, number one apartments, the what we're getting from apartments has gone down because we have old apartments now correct correct.

794
01:13:45,740 --> 01:13:50,820
But what about the new homes that have been built? They haven't been there long enough to really get money from them.

795
01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:51,060
Correct.

796
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:58,860
So when we enter a new subdivision, what I saw with the region, I've had this conversation with the mayor and a couple of the council members.

797
01:13:58,860 --> 01:14:08,560
It's usually about a five-year spend, so we normally don't start seeing that impact on our books until about five years until the homes are really built out.

798
01:14:08,660 --> 01:14:10,920
We're not seeing anything from Santa Fe West yet.

799
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:16,880
We saw a little, you'll see in your on that spreadsheet, which I can show you all on Saturday,

800
01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:26,500
you will see that the residential number count has gone up, and you'll see a slight up tick, but we're not seeing those revenues just yet.

801
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:32,160
The other portion of that is you don't know who's buying those homes, are they 100% disabled?

802
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,020
Are they 65 and over?

803
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:37,760
You don't know their exemptions when they're purchasing the home either.

804
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:46,380
And so out of the 100 homes that say are currently sold, you may have half of them that are VA 100% disabled.

805
01:14:46,380 --> 01:14:47,660
We just don't know that yet.

806
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:54,620
And so I won't know that until they actually start putting a full year's worth of property tax in with the county.

807
01:14:54,620 --> 01:14:59,860
And you start to little off because most of those houses are done with mortgages and it's done with escrow.

808
01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:09,210
And so by the time it hits on the other side, it's a weird thing. And so we probably won't start seeing that for another three to five years.

809
01:15:10,210 --> 01:15:16,030
So we're not seeing it just yet. I saw it a little bit. You'll start seeing it trickle in a little bit with the count.

810
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:22,190
But we probably won't see the full impact of that for at least another five-day years, especially with the cynical West.

811
01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:27,110
Okay, I just wanted to make the comment about people thinking that we've had this highest.

812
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:31,270
I think what it was possibly last year and y'all correct me for a long.

813
01:15:31,570 --> 01:15:32,170
We were at 48.

814
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:38,970
We did the whole budget at 48, but then it came in at what 0.51 was our known new.

815
01:15:39,470 --> 01:15:43,930
And then the council wanted to add three new firefighters.

816
01:15:44,270 --> 01:15:46,290
That's why it went up to 0.54.

817
01:15:46,850 --> 01:15:49,910
So it wasn't, you know, just to go up.

818
01:15:49,970 --> 01:15:50,730
It was a purpose.

819
01:15:50,730 --> 01:16:01,450
I just wanted to clarify that, but I think people were like 48 to 54, you know, that's what the shock of the system was, I think, and I know that's a good point.

820
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:02,730
So, okay.

821
01:16:02,970 --> 01:16:15,330
So, this is the breakdown of the tax bill, so you are kind of normally used to seeing this slide. So, when you have your entire tax bill, the city of Leon Valley only gets, you know, 1188 dollars of that.

822
01:16:15,330 --> 01:16:22,250
And then I kind of wanted to show that you're going from your $230 tax bill to $218 on your average home.

823
01:16:22,270 --> 01:16:25,790
So your average home is decreasing by about $12,000.

824
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:30,330
And so each, if we every house was $218,000,

825
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:35,750
each bill would be down $67 on average.

826
01:16:36,530 --> 01:16:40,910
So that's just kind of free all the kind of see what that looks like.

827
01:16:40,910 --> 01:16:50,150
So it's not me wanting to increase your tax rate, it's your valuations are coming down and I think they're just really leveling out

828
01:16:50,150 --> 01:16:52,390
I think y'all had a really big spike

829
01:16:52,910 --> 01:17:01,650
After COVID as a lot of cities did and this if you go to the county if you go to the city of San Antonio, they're all facing the same market adjustment

830
01:17:02,190 --> 01:17:08,950
Yeah, and a lot of that is because they decreased their tax rate at the time in order to offset the increase in property evaluations

831
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:12,630
now the markets corrected, being corrected, and the property

832
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:18,230
evaluations are going down or adequately showing what the actual cost of the property is, and

833
01:17:18,230 --> 01:17:21,410
so you're having to correct that with your tax rate.

834
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:30,590
Moving into your general fund, so your capital reserve fund is sitting at 5.19, you have an

835
01:17:30,590 --> 01:17:38,350
emergency fund of 1.2. You have future capital of a 275,000, so you add all three of you

836
01:17:38,350 --> 01:17:44,310
these up at CityNet 6.7. We normally don't tie your emergency fund. That's set separate by

837
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:50,790
GFOA standards in order to compensate for any type of emergency. And then that 275 is what

838
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:56,470
Council set aside for that's your pool and your pool grant and your fire department,

839
01:17:56,810 --> 01:17:57,530
Skabah equipment.

840
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:04,080
So then you have a little bit less than a month of operating income in

841
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:10,440
your emergency fund and then we have about 4.9 combined with all other of your other funds.

842
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,960
Currently, this budget is not balanced or sitting at $614,000 deficit.

843
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,740
Now, I'm going to tell you last year when I gave this presentation, when I went

844
01:18:20,740 --> 01:18:26,240
time, you were about like 1.3, so we saw 614 and I was like, yeah, we're not that bad.

845
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:32,260
And so I know people think at the beginning of this budget cycle that I try to

846
01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:34,940
insight fear and you all to get you to do whatever it is.

847
01:18:35,180 --> 01:18:41,760
I'm not, I do think the 614 is definitely if we work together, we can definitely get that

848
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,400
down fairly quickly, and I think with ease.

849
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,540
Operating revenue, we're expected at the point

850
01:18:49,540 --> 01:18:52,040
with 5-4, about 15-mil.

851
01:18:54,490 --> 01:18:57,230
This is just kind of an overview of how we reflected

852
01:18:57,230 --> 01:18:58,090
your revenue.

853
01:18:58,850 --> 01:19:03,450
So we did drop your AdValorium Tax 289,000.

854
01:19:03,670 --> 01:19:04,410
That's the first.

855
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:07,570
It's usually always the other way it is.

856
01:19:07,890 --> 01:19:10,990
Now, again, if you, I think if you're note,

857
01:19:10,990 --> 01:19:15,190
This will change if you're known you revenue rate comes in and it's sitting at like 0.5.

858
01:19:15,190 --> 01:19:19,430
I'm preparing you because I do think it's probably going to come in at 0.5, close to

859
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:25,290
0.5, 6, probably, I jumped to that because then I get quoted later but I do think

860
01:19:25,290 --> 01:19:27,910
it's going to come in and that will change.

861
01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:29,610
Yes, Councillor Compas.

862
01:19:30,710 --> 01:19:39,880
So I think last year was the first year we saw a negative last year because our new

863
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,300
who revenue, right, had to go up.

864
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:43,260
I mean, okay, yeah, okay, I'm sorry.

865
01:19:43,580 --> 01:19:47,260
But it was a little bit smaller.

866
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,160
I mean, but you did have a decrease last year

867
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,200
and I have to pull that slide.

868
01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:52,580
This is a new slide.

869
01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:55,860
I wanted, so I'm trying really hard just like y'all

870
01:19:55,860 --> 01:19:58,940
like me to kind of put everything all together

871
01:19:58,940 --> 01:20:00,700
and show everything all at once.

872
01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:02,780
Kind of like what I did at the coffee

873
01:20:02,780 --> 01:20:05,560
where I gave like it was the definition,

874
01:20:05,860 --> 01:20:08,880
the breakdown, the 10 year kind of succinct that way.

875
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,120
We present your budget a little bit differently

876
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,360
because certain things are held in certain funds.

877
01:20:13,620 --> 01:20:15,220
And so there are some requirement

878
01:20:15,220 --> 01:20:16,860
on how I present this.

879
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,860
But I can break it down for you anyway you would like.

880
01:20:22,220 --> 01:20:24,620
So but I wanted everything succinct on one slide.

881
01:20:24,660 --> 01:20:25,900
So this is your revenue.

882
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,080
Carol kind of put this together to show all your revenue

883
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,820
whether it went up or down.

884
01:20:31,060 --> 01:20:33,840
All on one slide versus going back and forth between slides.

885
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:35,980
So these are all your revenues from the book.

886
01:20:36,220 --> 01:20:38,680
What is the sales tax percentage that you have?

887
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:39,460
1.5 percent.

888
01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:40,220
1.5.

889
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:40,540
Okay.

890
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:41,900
I didn't think it was very much.

891
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:42,360
Yeah.

892
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:43,480
1.5.

893
01:20:43,480 --> 01:20:44,540
You're tracking the little bit.

894
01:20:44,540 --> 01:20:48,380
Because I know you had it three and then come down to two and so, okay, 1.5.

895
01:20:48,580 --> 01:20:48,620
Yeah.

896
01:20:48,820 --> 01:20:51,240
It's 1.5 right now increased for next year.

897
01:20:51,460 --> 01:20:52,880
Again, conservative estimate.

898
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:58,000
If you take a look at what came in this last month, you're sitting at a 7% increase

899
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,940
this past month.

900
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,420
So if you look at your city manager's report, you're sitting in about 7.

901
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:08,600
But we also have to take a look of like, you are still, you're the way we get

902
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:14,200
in and the way I'm reporting it from that cell cell is different but I do think you're

903
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:20,480
trending in the right direction and so I'm comfortable with 1.5 as we kind of move through

904
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:26,200
and as I continue to get those funds and we may look at maybe going up to 2 but if we go the

905
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,980
other direction, this

906
01:21:30,380 --> 01:21:35,080
is just a breakdown of your general fund revenue categories as you can see

907
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:39,440
The majority of your revenue comes from Advalorum tax and sales tax.

908
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:50,900
One of the council's goals for me this year was to start moving red light camera people out of your red light camera fun into general fun and kind of having a plan for that.

909
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:59,660
I have a plan that does kind of live in my mind and I've presented every year to try to move red light camera people over in the council.

910
01:21:59,660 --> 01:22:05,920
We ended up moving them back in order for the budget to be balanced or in order for it not to hit general fund.

911
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:15,480
And so essentially, we had to kind of at a couple of moving pieces. So what we did is we took the community and conference center rentals.

912
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:22,820
Not the hotel motel tax, the rentals and what we get the revenue. And I move that over into the 80 CD fund.

913
01:22:22,820 --> 01:22:26,460
in order to support the move.

914
01:22:26,700 --> 01:22:29,440
And so what I did was I moved just those rental funds.

915
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:32,760
So, oh, now I'm gonna, I don't know what to do.

916
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,780
What is that?

917
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:35,940
I need you're gonna ask that 30,000?

918
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:37,460
Oh, 68,000.

919
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,040
I was gonna ask you how much it was.

920
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,340
And so, what's the reasoning behind that?

921
01:22:42,580 --> 01:22:45,340
So, in order for you not to go,

922
01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:49,200
in order for your operating, to master expenditures,

923
01:22:49,580 --> 01:22:51,420
so you're not having an unbalanced budget,

924
01:22:51,420 --> 01:22:59,100
I needed to make sure if I'm moving to code people over there to offset your general fund impact.

925
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,920
We move the rental monies over there in order to do that.

926
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,600
But aren't two code enforcement officers more than 68,000?

927
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:09,460
No, yes.

928
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:14,160
But you're using the remainder of your EDCD funds in order to support the revenue that comes in from your EDC.

929
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,000
So your revenue that comes in from your EDC is going to support your two code enforcement.

930
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,820
If you go to that last very last slide, split is there.

931
01:23:21,060 --> 01:23:22,460
You're two code enforcement officers,

932
01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:24,320
your economic development director,

933
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:25,860
and a portion of Miranda salary.

934
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,440
Okay, but so no money for projects.

935
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:30,520
You have some, yes,

936
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,640
because you still have reserve fund dollars for projects,

937
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,400
and we do have a small amount for projects.

938
01:23:36,460 --> 01:23:38,260
I thought we were going to put in a little line out of the floor.

939
01:23:38,620 --> 01:23:41,080
Okay, yeah, I thought for a while there,

940
01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:42,180
I thought we had like 20,000.

941
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:44,140
But you have your reserve fund

942
01:23:44,140 --> 01:23:46,620
in order to do any big projects that you want to do.

943
01:23:48,540 --> 01:23:54,500
So, because that one was sitting, your reserve fund there, I think was sitting like close to 1000.

944
01:23:55,580 --> 01:23:58,780
So, but you're not using your reserve fund to cover your operating.

945
01:23:59,020 --> 01:24:01,560
You're using your reserve fund for your one-time projects.

946
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,440
But if we keep it structured that way, then there'll be very little money for projects.

947
01:24:06,460 --> 01:24:09,560
You'll have to keep using your reserve in order to fund projects.

948
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,960
Your reserve fund, you won't build your EDCD fund,

949
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,520
well you could like right now I'm making a code enforcement officer right so like if this

950
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:23,100
happened last year that money that we're not spending on that code enforcement officer would

951
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:28,260
roll over I didn't have an ED director all like the whole entire year she just came on so that money

952
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:35,220
would roll over your your your projects that you have that you're doing for your you don't have

953
01:24:35,220 --> 01:24:40,640
anything dedicated like you're not saying we need this five hundred thousand dollars it's different

954
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,640
than like your crime control, right?

955
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:50,920
So like, I don't have a projected use for those funds, other than we pulled some money out

956
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,960
in order to do a portion of the police department engineering and that kind of stuff.

957
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:02,580
But for the most part, you don't have projected projects because we use those funds when

958
01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:03,800
projects become available.

959
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:10,220
And so like when we had royal tile or we had the golds gym, those come up throughout the

960
01:25:10,220 --> 01:25:17,380
But yes, eventually if you start seeing that money dip below 400,000 or whatever that number looks like whatever

961
01:25:17,380 --> 01:25:23,060
Then that following year the council makes a decision and says, hey, we want to start rebuilding this fund.

962
01:25:23,180 --> 01:25:27,200
We need to move some operating expenses out back into the general fund.

963
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,360
But for right now for next year and probably for the next couple of years,

964
01:25:32,580 --> 01:25:37,600
you probably be just mind funding those officers or those individuals out of this fund.

965
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:46,780
Unless you came across an amazing deal and you needed to eat a half a million dollars for a project and you ate really quickly that

966
01:25:46,780 --> 01:25:56,280
Reserve fund then I would recommend that you don't fund a code enforcement officer. You live with one, which we did for many years. So that's also an option for you

967
01:25:57,780 --> 01:25:58,260
So

968
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:07,200
So essentially that's what we did and then we shifted over and now you don't have to do that. My only goal is to provide you a plan. You don't have to accept my plan

969
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,640
I've checked off the box for my goals for this year, I'm giving you a plan, but you

970
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:17,580
meet in years past you haven't liked my red light camera plans, so you shifted them back

971
01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:22,960
to red light camera. So I'm putting it on the record, this is my plan for you to shift

972
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:28,660
that, those officers over. And so if you like this plan, you can do it, but you don't

973
01:26:28,660 --> 01:26:34,700
have to accept it. That's also an option for you as well. And so we would move those EDCD people

974
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:41,980
over, you would take two employees out and your net cost to your general fund essentially is roughly

975
01:26:41,980 --> 01:26:45,880
68,046,000.

976
01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:53,190
And this is just kind of how we broke it down. You had a savings of about

977
01:26:53,710 --> 01:27:00,470
145. The two red light camera people were costing you 213. So we had a net, you have a net cost of

978
01:27:00,470 --> 01:27:07,630
about 68,000 and then this is just the breakdown we move your portion of your community

979
01:27:07,630 --> 01:27:17,550
relations director salary over and so then your revenues move to EDCD fund and then we

980
01:27:17,550 --> 01:27:21,430
transfer the two traffic safety employees from your red light camera fund over into your

981
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:30,150
general fund. Having not a $213,000 in-packed to your general fund only a $68,000 in-packed,

982
01:27:30,350 --> 01:27:33,690
which I think this is a great idea to kind of resolve that issue.

983
01:27:34,350 --> 01:27:35,190
Yes, Councillor Merchant.

984
01:27:36,010 --> 01:27:42,570
So are there any limitations or regulations about who can be funded through economic development

985
01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:49,030
dollars? I mean, how does code enforcement correlate to economic development?

986
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:53,890
Would you think code enforcement or animal control is a community initiative?

987
01:27:54,710 --> 01:27:55,490
Oh yeah, okay.

988
01:27:55,670 --> 01:27:57,570
So it's economic and community development funds.

989
01:27:57,730 --> 01:27:59,430
It's the community development I'm forgetting.

990
01:28:00,630 --> 01:28:01,310
Yeah.

991
01:28:02,690 --> 01:28:03,470
You may not like it.

992
01:28:03,470 --> 01:28:06,750
Everybody loves the economic development of money is in dollars,

993
01:28:06,810 --> 01:28:11,730
and they want to spend it on revitalizing Bandera Road.

994
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:17,430
And so the problem with that is is that you have aging infrastructure,

995
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:23,210
And you can, I can eat that 900, actually it's a little less than 900 of those, fairly quickly, right?

996
01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:27,350
And so I can go through and update your shopping centers and do facade programs.

997
01:28:27,790 --> 01:28:31,030
That's not going to guarantee you a return on your investment, right?

998
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:36,010
I can beautify the town center, make it look beautiful, but I don't know what's going to go in there.

999
01:28:36,110 --> 01:28:41,470
And you have an adult daycare, and you have a church in that same shopping center, both of those are tax exempt.

1000
01:28:41,730 --> 01:28:46,370
So that whole shopping center, I'm not getting 100% of the alarm tax from that shopping center.

1001
01:28:46,370 --> 01:28:55,490
I'm only getting a quarter of what the Avalorum taxes for that shopping center, because two of the businesses that are in there are considered tax exempt businesses.

1002
01:28:58,690 --> 01:29:00,610
General fund expenditure highlights.

1003
01:29:01,070 --> 01:29:04,690
You're spending roughly about 16 million and 3 million in your capital.

1004
01:29:06,910 --> 01:29:09,390
Your general fund expenditures by category.

1005
01:29:09,830 --> 01:29:11,730
Of course, the biggest piece is your personal cost.

1006
01:29:11,730 --> 01:29:17,390
your supplies is as small as we spend a lot on contractual and then of course your capital

1007
01:29:17,390 --> 01:29:18,990
out way.

1008
01:29:19,730 --> 01:29:26,030
Your public safety is sitting at 49% your public works is at 25% and then the remainder

1009
01:29:26,030 --> 01:29:29,310
are the rest of your staff.

1010
01:29:30,350 --> 01:29:38,150
Would you delineate the place in the fire on that public safety just, yeah, because our wires

1011
01:29:38,150 --> 01:29:43,210
I was going to say I thought when I went through it I was surprised at fire was higher than you added three

1012
01:29:43,210 --> 01:29:44,390
Because that was yeah

1013
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:53,540
Okay, so this is what you're normally used to seeing. This is your summary sheet for your general funder's or

1014
01:29:54,020 --> 01:29:59,980
Your total revenues is sitting at 17, total revenue sitting at 17 million and you're

1015
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:13,140
Your total expenditures are sitting at 19. Now, when you take a look at that 17 million, you're going to take out the high combined trial grant. You're a sign fund of 200,000. And that's because your ambulance, we're geared up to purchase this year.

1016
01:30:14,820 --> 01:30:22,340
Or, I'm sorry, that's the other portion of your ambulance. And then your treatment, additional sign funds, leaving your actual revenue sitting at 15.7 mil.

1017
01:30:22,340 --> 01:30:33,760
Your expenditures minus your capital outlay, which is 3.6 mil, is sitting at 16.326 giving you a negative of 640,000.

1018
01:30:34,020 --> 01:30:36,980
So if you want to know how that's the deficit, that's the deficit right now.

1019
01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:48,250
And then for next year, we have the 200,000 for the pool and the Skabah for your expenditures for your signed fund.

1020
01:30:53,850 --> 01:30:59,470
This is the breakdown of your advalorum, your cell's tax, and your franchise fees.

1021
01:31:01,210 --> 01:31:04,790
This is the breakdown of your license fees and fines and your grants.

1022
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,820
This is the revenue source of what we put other.

1023
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:11,820
Everybody always wants to know what's other.

1024
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,480
This is the actual breakdown of what your other is.

1025
01:31:14,900 --> 01:31:18,700
And then we have transferred shared services that come in from your red light camera

1026
01:31:18,700 --> 01:31:21,660
and your water fund, and then your peg fund.

1027
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,140
And why don't you have any pool revenue for?

1028
01:31:24,140 --> 01:31:26,480
I don't have poll revenue nor your poll contract.

1029
01:31:26,700 --> 01:31:28,900
I'm anticipating we're starting construction next.

1030
01:31:29,140 --> 01:31:31,420
I'm just anticipating we're starting construction next year.

1031
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:31,900
Okay.

1032
01:31:31,900 --> 01:31:36,360
Don't start construction next year, then we'll have revenue that's not accounted for, but then

1033
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,800
you're going to have to do a budget adjustment in order to accept that in terms of

1034
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:39,900
your own management contract.

1035
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,500
Because the contract is also not in here.

1036
01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:48,490
I hope the estimate is back on.

1037
01:31:48,490 --> 01:31:48,790
Yes.

1038
01:31:49,070 --> 01:31:49,850
So, Fiesta matters.

1039
01:31:49,890 --> 01:31:51,430
This is the revenue source.

1040
01:31:51,670 --> 01:31:52,670
So, I'm including this.

1041
01:31:52,670 --> 01:31:59,790
So the mayor's idea of the pitches was to paper-fiesta metals, but then have them pay for it.

1042
01:32:00,190 --> 01:32:00,930
So we'll have a 10-year-old.

1043
01:32:01,590 --> 01:32:04,410
I mean, I just, you know, I got a lot of pushback.

1044
01:32:04,610 --> 01:32:06,190
Why don't we have a metal this year, Mayor?

1045
01:32:06,190 --> 01:32:08,170
And I said, well, we just took it out of the budget.

1046
01:32:08,670 --> 01:32:13,850
And then I think was it, I thought it was Danielle or somebody had said, well, why can't we just sell them?

1047
01:32:13,930 --> 01:32:16,130
And I'll tell you what, a lot of people sell them too.

1048
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:19,350
So that's just an idea if y'all don't want to do it, that's fine.

1049
01:32:20,330 --> 01:32:27,030
This is the revenue side, so with that concept, your Fiesta Metals cost about $10,000.

1050
01:32:27,370 --> 01:32:32,030
We would sell each Fiesta Metals for about $10 and that would be, it should be a wash.

1051
01:32:32,210 --> 01:32:36,610
But we would have to sell all of your Fiesta Metals for $10 to get that money back.

1052
01:32:37,170 --> 01:32:41,510
But we're pretty confident that we would make the $10,000 back.

1053
01:32:42,490 --> 01:32:49,810
And so, again, it's more of a topic of conversation as we're going through the budget.

1054
01:32:49,810 --> 01:32:58,990
And it was one of the items that got brought up as a retreat top possible retreat topic, but I just added it in there because I don't want to keep changing.

1055
01:32:59,290 --> 01:33:06,650
Well, and then I'm just looking at the EDC community events and I said 50,000. Oh, that's when we had the big fourth of July.

1056
01:33:07,070 --> 01:33:10,410
And so now we look at the results of the survey.

1057
01:33:11,770 --> 01:33:12,970
I don't know.

1058
01:33:13,390 --> 01:33:16,910
Do we have to put that back in if that's what we end up deciding to do just to.

1059
01:33:16,910 --> 01:33:18,190
Just about the numbers.

1060
01:33:18,210 --> 01:33:18,950
Just to comment.

1061
01:33:19,290 --> 01:33:19,890
Yeah, we'll head.

1062
01:33:20,270 --> 01:33:20,730
Yeah, too.

1063
01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:25,670
So I do, like again, preparing for that conversation, we added it to the script control.

1064
01:33:26,530 --> 01:33:32,510
I do think that probably for this particular budget, if you decide to add in that full

1065
01:33:32,510 --> 01:33:39,370
budget event, again, to do what you can pull it from your EDCD Reserve Fund account for

1066
01:33:39,370 --> 01:33:40,310
one time event.

1067
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:44,410
If it's going to be an ongoing thing that you consider to do, then you're going to have to figure

1068
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:47,410
out. Let's check. You're going to figure that out.

1069
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:50,840
Okay. Thank you. Your

1070
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,840
municipal court. I'm going to go through these slides pretty quickly because I

1071
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,300
know we're sitting on an hour already, but we're going to go through them. You'll

1072
01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:02,600
see some detail if there's something that catches your eye. Please raise your

1073
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:06,240
handle. Answer it for you, but I'm going to go pretty quick. So this is your

1074
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,620
municipal court budget. This is the breakdown of your municipal court budget.

1075
01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:14,720
This is the additional detail that goes along with your municipal court

1076
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:20,300
budget. The biggest one that I'll know are that is notable here is the $6,000 increases on your

1077
01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:26,040
judges and the $4,000 increase on your prosecutor. We're adding two docket days that need to be added

1078
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:31,660
to your court. We tried to cut it in half last year and so we managed but we do need to add two,

1079
01:34:31,660 --> 01:34:35,200
we do need to add two more. I'm not adding the full fledged back but we're going to add two more to

1080
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:40,000
help offset. So I try to go full extreme and now we're going to add in a little bit so we're adding

1081
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:45,180
to court dates back and then your judges fees have an increase in their new contract that they

1082
01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:47,900
were adopted so that's gone up a little bit.

1083
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:53,200
Your finance department, the most notable thing here is your external oddities go up

1084
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:58,100
slightly as well as your very very county appraisal district use have gone up a little bit.

1085
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:03,080
Your city manager fund, the big noticeable one here is I've added and you'll see this

1086
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,520
across the board and I don't know if it will stay there or not.

1087
01:35:05,780 --> 01:35:08,680
We've added about $5,000 for building maintenance internal.

1088
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:17,420
So the public works department's been eating all the costs for anything that goes wrong at any of the building and he's eating through his money fairly quickly because he's paying for everybody's repairs.

1089
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:26,440
So I'm splitting it up and kind of giving everybody some cushion so the public works department budget isn't hit with all of those kind of expenditures.

1090
01:35:27,020 --> 01:35:27,600
So maybe something.

1091
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,900
So you're putting back in the shirts and the employee pens that we took at last year.

1092
01:35:32,140 --> 01:35:37,600
No, so the shirts that are in here are just for a couple of new employees.

1093
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:52,760
Okay, everybody. Okay. So have some new staff that doesn't have anything on Valley shirts. That's why the cost. It's very small. It's like $1,600, but it's for a couple of the new. I just put it all here. You won't see it in all the budgets, but like Sarah Michaels and you like they don't.

1094
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,140
None of them have shirts. It's a couple of shirts for some of the new staff.

1095
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:04,660
When we hold events like we're getting ready to do the library carnival, they don't have anything on Valley T shirt. They don't have anything. They just, so I just think it's something to kind of.

1096
01:36:04,660 --> 01:36:07,660
And then you're adding in the pins and the plaques.

1097
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,620
So it's not just pins and plaques.

1098
01:36:09,860 --> 01:36:11,380
It's for two long-term employees.

1099
01:36:12,220 --> 01:36:13,440
You have Candy Pena.

1100
01:36:14,020 --> 01:36:14,440
Oh, yeah.

1101
01:36:14,700 --> 01:36:16,340
And there's one more person.

1102
01:36:16,580 --> 01:36:17,560
And now I'm going to feel bad.

1103
01:36:19,480 --> 01:36:20,960
There's another employee that's got.

1104
01:36:21,980 --> 01:36:23,600
Yeah, it was 25 and over.

1105
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:24,920
So there's only a couple of it.

1106
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:26,020
I'll give you the names on Saturday.

1107
01:36:26,980 --> 01:36:27,660
But you know Candy.

1108
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:29,360
I didn't know about the others anymore.

1109
01:36:30,180 --> 01:36:30,940
There's one more person.

1110
01:36:33,340 --> 01:36:44,900
Okay, so it's not for everybody we're not doing the five year, ten year, it's just for your big, your big years just to do something for them.

1111
01:36:45,220 --> 01:36:50,540
And again, as we're having the budget conversation and I need a little little down, it's like I did last year.

1112
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:58,700
We presented it on as I go through what our needs, what our wants and so things sometimes get cut, but that's where we're sitting.

1113
01:36:59,820 --> 01:37:06,760
This is a breakdown, we did decrease your, oh, it's not on this one, sorry.

1114
01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:10,200
The ML is here next year, oops, it's on this one.

1115
01:37:10,540 --> 01:37:12,580
Yeah, so we did decrease your TML training.

1116
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:13,980
Where did that go?

1117
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:20,160
Well, you know, I saw that and I thought it was, no, that's project.

1118
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,700
Oh, there it is, it's here.

1119
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,320
It's your trial, I just don't, I haven't broken down on mine, sorry.

1120
01:37:25,020 --> 01:37:32,600
But we do decrease your travel and training because TML is here and we're not having a paper hotel.

1121
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:34,100
Okay.

1122
01:37:35,940 --> 01:37:38,220
Your information technology fund.

1123
01:37:39,620 --> 01:37:41,620
For the most part, we've been able to mitigate it.

1124
01:37:41,620 --> 01:37:43,540
You'll see some increases here.

1125
01:37:43,860 --> 01:37:52,320
It's just the cost of things going up like your Microsoft Office, your Nitro, your security.

1126
01:37:52,320 --> 01:38:01,240
security that's our server security system that we have here. We also have NINJA, which is also like your firewalls.

1127
01:38:01,820 --> 01:38:10,940
The biggest one of course is tech lead. If you take tech lead from here and enterprise funds close to $100,000, you were spending that plus personnel.

1128
01:38:12,500 --> 01:38:21,120
And so I still not budgeting for a person here. And so that means I'm me or some of my other staff get additional duties.

1129
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,460
like I was talking to Mayor Yesterdae, me, Carol and Don,

1130
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:24,980
we're dealing with the Canon printers

1131
01:38:24,980 --> 01:38:26,980
and the contract for Canon.

1132
01:38:27,460 --> 01:38:29,120
Because I don't have like Eric's here,

1133
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:30,920
but he's not here to manage projects.

1134
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:34,120
Crystal's handling, the AV equipment in this room,

1135
01:38:34,460 --> 01:38:36,540
over the break that we're hopefully have.

1136
01:38:37,220 --> 01:38:41,580
And so normally that would be my IT staff person.

1137
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,520
So those additional duties get put on someone else.

1138
01:38:45,980 --> 01:38:48,640
And so we're still not budgeting for that.

1139
01:38:51,480 --> 01:38:55,380
If I still have tech lead in here, it did go down a little bit.

1140
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,940
I've tried to reduce how often we call them.

1141
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,560
Unfortunately, everything we do now is technology-related.

1142
01:39:01,340 --> 01:39:03,860
So we need them more often than I would like to admit.

1143
01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:09,140
In this particular budget, you have time clock sitting there at 15,000.

1144
01:39:09,260 --> 01:39:12,980
I will tell you this will be, this is our clock-end clock-out system.

1145
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,620
I was going to start off with a portion of the staff.

1146
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:17,060
I am not going to do that.

1147
01:39:17,060 --> 01:39:18,340
I'm going to remove this item.

1148
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:24,280
Part of the conversation as we kind of go through is you'll see encode going to the cloud base.

1149
01:39:24,540 --> 01:39:27,120
We're required we're going to be forced to go to that.

1150
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:32,040
I don't know if the cloud base system is going to support this time clock system.

1151
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:38,660
We know it will support on encode 9, but we don't because it's a separate component done through patchwork.

1152
01:39:39,260 --> 01:39:43,740
I don't know if it's going to work with the cloud base and I don't have the answers for all the configuration.

1153
01:39:43,740 --> 01:39:48,360
I don't have an IT person on staff, so I don't know the answer to all those questions, so I don't

1154
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:53,060
feel I may have them maybe by the end of this budget cycle, if not we'll go one more

1155
01:39:53,060 --> 01:39:55,800
year and try to figure out what that looks like.

1156
01:39:55,820 --> 01:40:01,160
Incode implementation for 10 is about 18 months and so if the budget goes through we'll start

1157
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:04,660
that process but we'll have a roll over amount the following fiscal year because we won't

1158
01:40:04,660 --> 01:40:06,600
get through the entirety of that project.

1159
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:07,840
And how does that work?

1160
01:40:08,020 --> 01:40:12,860
Is it one time clock or is it one time clock per department?

1161
01:40:12,860 --> 01:40:20,640
No, so what do you do that it was the computer or what I had yeah, yeah, so depending on what you get you can do some print

1162
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:21,680
You want your phone

1163
01:40:26,660 --> 01:40:33,380
Three or four systems okay, depending on what that looks like as far as equipment goes

1164
01:40:34,860 --> 01:40:39,340
But no, but you know when I saw time clock, you know it's like the old time clock where you go

1165
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:47,400
We are geofent. Okay. There you can clock in. If you do it from your phone, you couldn't

1166
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:55,780
clock in into whatever the property line or whatever I say the geofences. So we may save money

1167
01:40:55,780 --> 01:41:03,160
and allow people to clock in from their phones. Not everybody has phones, so I have to be able to

1168
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:08,100
allow them to clock in maybe from their computer or we get a system. So the current public court,

1169
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:13,560
So I'm thinking one over there, maybe one here at City Hall or at the fire department.

1170
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:18,220
So I don't have all the equipment in that 15,000, isn't sitting in that 15,000, that was

1171
01:41:18,220 --> 01:41:21,120
to get us started with what that looked like.

1172
01:41:21,820 --> 01:41:27,000
But I'm having conversations with the people that encode for encotain.

1173
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,140
They also have a clock enclock out system in that version.

1174
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,920
And so I don't know what that, I'd rather go with the products that we, so everything's

1175
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:41,680
under one umbrella and so I just don't have all the answers for that yet so we're going to take

1176
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,460
it out for right now for right now that 15,000 will come out.

1177
01:41:47,740 --> 01:41:51,300
Police Department the most notable

1178
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:56,880
one in here you'll see is like the fuel they did a really good job of keeping everything under

1179
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:04,120
control and comparison the last year. So you'll see either no increase or very slight increase

1180
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:09,440
but your five thousand is just going up guys I don't you know it's just kind of we

1181
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:15,080
we programmed about 30% increase in there across the board are any of our vehicles

1182
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:20,760
diesel I guess so public works and your fire department you'll see a larger increase

1183
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:25,000
exactly okay but for right now for your police and your police to five thousand it's about

1184
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:31,870
five thousand and and just in this general fund account we'll see it in other funds as well

1185
01:42:31,870 --> 01:42:36,330
So your police department, again, you'll see that things came out.

1186
01:42:36,450 --> 01:42:37,950
So you see your ax on.

1187
01:42:38,210 --> 01:42:41,810
This is the stuff that we put in your crime control, right?

1188
01:42:41,810 --> 01:42:44,030
So we're trying to save money in your general fund.

1189
01:42:45,630 --> 01:42:47,170
See some head nods, you'll get it.

1190
01:42:47,230 --> 01:42:47,470
We're connected.

1191
01:42:50,090 --> 01:42:54,030
So that's the stuff right here that you saw that got moved over

1192
01:42:54,030 --> 01:42:54,970
into the other fund.

1193
01:42:55,810 --> 01:42:55,970
See?

1194
01:42:56,510 --> 01:42:57,890
So you see zero for this here.

1195
01:42:58,030 --> 01:43:00,910
And it looks like we're saving money, but that's what we moved over into your

1196
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:10,340
So your reserve fund, you have another treadmill, we bought one last year, this would replace

1197
01:43:10,340 --> 01:43:18,540
the 2015 second treadmill, we have 300,000 for property replants, we are doing a temporary

1198
01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:24,400
bandade fix, we've more of the gel cells are at, they have kind of enclosed there, we moved

1199
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:32,680
some stuff over into the small house and so we've made a bandade fix that will get us some

1200
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,180
time, but it's not going to get you forever time. So we need to figure out what we're going

1201
01:43:36,180 --> 01:43:39,280
to do with that and how you all want to handle that.

1202
01:43:39,940 --> 01:43:47,440
Your in-pound lot is functioning really well at pace for itself. You won't see pretty much

1203
01:43:47,980 --> 01:43:51,300
not a whole lot of increase. You'll see ward went up a little bit, but that's because we're

1204
01:43:51,300 --> 01:43:55,080
holding more options, so I need to pay a little bit more.

1205
01:43:55,380 --> 01:44:01,160
Your fire department, they did a really good job of managing their accounts this year as well,

1206
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,080
but you'll see that there's diesel when up 20,000

1207
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,980
is the most notable increase here.

1208
01:44:07,660 --> 01:44:09,600
We are doing something a little bit different

1209
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,640
with a fire department, so y'all,

1210
01:44:11,780 --> 01:44:14,780
per your salaries, use to give them a uniform allowance.

1211
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,480
As part of their salary benefit,

1212
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:21,920
we're taking back the uniform allowance, kind of sort of.

1213
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,520
They're still get $800, but we're putting it

1214
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,280
as a budget line item to manage what they're actually purchasing.

1215
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:34,920
So we would purchase the uniforms, we're budgeting, and we purchase for them, if that makes sense.

1216
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,040
I'm trying this out, and the fire department, police departments still has, they go purchase,

1217
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,540
we reimburse for the purchase of their uniforms and equipment. They function a little bit different.

1218
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:50,200
The fire department, I'm going to try it this way. See, in the future, we can save a little bit of money

1219
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:57,020
by doing it this way. So it's not part of their, they don't go out and buy, give us an

1220
01:44:57,020 --> 01:44:59,960
In voice and then we reimbursed them back up to

1221
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:00,700
We're,

1222
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,000
Chris Willis is going to handle that section for us.

1223
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:09,680
So you just order their uniforms for us?

1224
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,260
As they come in.

1225
01:45:11,340 --> 01:45:14,100
Okay, so Councillor Compos and then Councillor Roscoh.

1226
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,000
What do you estimate the savings to be?

1227
01:45:17,220 --> 01:45:18,740
I don't, right now it's a wash.

1228
01:45:19,260 --> 01:45:19,520
Okay.

1229
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:20,500
Because I don't know.

1230
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:21,840
Councillor Roscoh.

1231
01:45:22,020 --> 01:45:29,700
We back when Dr. Cardetta, the fire department was putting fire sensors in houses and stuff.

1232
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:31,760
How much of that cost you?

1233
01:45:32,900 --> 01:45:33,880
We just install it.

1234
01:45:34,060 --> 01:45:35,240
They will keep not here.

1235
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:37,620
So essentially, they buy the fire alarm.

1236
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:38,580
We just put it in.

1237
01:45:38,980 --> 01:45:40,280
I don't think we purchased the fire alarm.

1238
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:40,960
Yeah.

1239
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:41,580
Yeah, yeah.

1240
01:45:41,620 --> 01:45:41,900
Yeah.

1241
01:45:42,940 --> 01:45:44,760
So they put them in for you.

1242
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:45,640
They just don't.

1243
01:45:46,860 --> 01:45:47,360
They're free.

1244
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,820
So they may have to ask the chief one.

1245
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:50,500
He gets here.

1246
01:45:50,500 --> 01:45:52,440
I know we install people's fire alarms.

1247
01:45:52,860 --> 01:45:54,060
But we also get.

1248
01:45:54,220 --> 01:45:57,080
The fire department gets a lot of stuff sometimes.

1249
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,380
And so sometimes they do get some, but I don't have it.

1250
01:46:00,500 --> 01:46:00,840
It may be under.

1251
01:46:01,020 --> 01:46:03,760
Oh, it's just food for thought, because it feels very popular.

1252
01:46:04,480 --> 01:46:06,320
And I know what people have in our budget to do it.

1253
01:46:06,340 --> 01:46:07,460
No, no, we still do it.

1254
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:08,480
It's not something I've taken out.

1255
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,140
But when Mike comes back up, we'll ask him.

1256
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,780
I don't know what line item that's out there.

1257
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,860
It's covered by their salaries, though.

1258
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:17,260
It's far as going to put it up in their people's house.

1259
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:17,940
No, no.

1260
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,280
He's saying that we bought the fire.

1261
01:46:19,540 --> 01:46:22,500
Oh, they brought it to my house and they put some new ones up there.

1262
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:24,040
Oh, and so I need to ask the chief.

1263
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,880
Oh, I had bought mine, so they put it up.

1264
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:33,680
So that's the way I thought the program went and so look, I learned something new every day, so when Mike makes his

1265
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,020
He'd, yeah, could have been

1266
01:46:35,020 --> 01:46:36,680
Just for the future

1267
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:38,920
Because you had that package delivered

1268
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:40,100
Well

1269
01:46:41,180 --> 01:46:44,990
No, and he has a, he has a straight name for him too

1270
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:46,760
So he's a special

1271
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:52,460
Okay, so this is a fire department, so right now it's a wash

1272
01:46:52,460 --> 01:46:54,740
I'm not, you're not having any savings right now

1273
01:46:54,740 --> 01:46:56,440
I want to see how it works.

1274
01:46:56,860 --> 01:47:00,880
This is my attempt at trying something a little bit different.

1275
01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:04,300
And so that's what we're doing and we'll kind of track it.

1276
01:47:04,300 --> 01:47:06,820
I need some years of tracking to see how that plays out.

1277
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,000
But are typically our new firefighters are going to spend more than our older firefighters

1278
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,500
because they've got a bio bunch of new stuff.

1279
01:47:12,700 --> 01:47:15,460
So I just want to see how that fluctuates.

1280
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:22,420
Fire department, again, you won't see any notable increases for the most part.

1281
01:47:22,420 --> 01:47:30,460
everything is pretty much the same, we did need a new stretcher and a loader. That has to kind of be done this year.

1282
01:47:31,140 --> 01:47:39,700
Your UMS building is going up a little bit and then your medical director per his contract is going up a little bit.

1283
01:47:39,700 --> 01:47:43,680
So we, okay, excuse me, Councilor.

1284
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:44,280
Councilor.

1285
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:50,040
So I noticed that our EMS billing collections went up.

1286
01:47:50,980 --> 01:47:53,320
What are we into spate for that, every?

1287
01:47:55,660 --> 01:47:59,560
So my big thing for right now is tracking what you're

1288
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:00,020
trending.

1289
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:01,400
So where did it go?

1290
01:48:01,740 --> 01:48:02,800
It's the other one, yeah.

1291
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:06,820
And so we did go up, but I was up here.

1292
01:48:06,940 --> 01:48:08,140
Five thousand, I think.

1293
01:48:08,140 --> 01:48:15,480
I went off of where you're currently at right now, and so I

1294
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:22,180
think on the we should see it on the revenue, it should be a wash on your revenue side.

1295
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:30,340
Sometimes we have years where everybody pays what they're supposed to pay, and then sometimes I have years that people don't.

1296
01:48:30,340 --> 01:48:35,860
your ass grant is supposed to kind of help offset that a little bit. Some years it does, some years

1297
01:48:35,860 --> 01:48:42,960
it doesn't. My big thought for this one is more of making sure I'm tracking what you're trending on

1298
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:47,920
this side. We did increase it. If you go back to the very first slide and you look at the revenues,

1299
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:54,660
you'll see the MS billing what is up a little bit, but it's not an exact wash necessarily,

1300
01:48:55,540 --> 01:48:59,360
because I tried to do it on both sides. I tried to look at your trending revenue versus your

1301
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:10,200
training expenditure so oh my yeah where do we pay for the fire alarms where do we pay for the

1302
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:30,590
fire alarms that we install on people's homes and or what which line item is it

1303
01:49:34,660 --> 01:49:37,560
It's like we spend equipment deals in the oil.

1304
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:39,360
OK.

1305
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:41,020
My name is operating.

1306
01:49:41,420 --> 01:49:41,760
OK.

1307
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:43,920
Which one is that?

1308
01:49:44,020 --> 01:49:44,640
It's just operating.

1309
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:46,120
It's just in your up.

1310
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,160
So we break it.

1311
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:49,180
Yes, it's miscellaneous.

1312
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:50,940
Yeah, but we don't have a miscellaneous.

1313
01:49:50,980 --> 01:49:53,680
Essentially, we estimate some of this, right?

1314
01:49:54,020 --> 01:49:55,920
Your station equipment repairs your replacement,

1315
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,560
your equipment oils and fuels.

1316
01:49:58,780 --> 01:50:02,780
So what he's saying is essentially this 175,000,

1317
01:50:02,780 --> 01:50:09,120
It's enough to buy this and the extra little fire alarm,

1318
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:09,440
which is whatever.

1319
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:10,640
It comes out of his operating.

1320
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:14,260
You'll buy the 30 and you'll follow this.

1321
01:50:14,440 --> 01:50:17,040
There are all the trucks, and if we've made a scene,

1322
01:50:17,260 --> 01:50:20,520
where somebody doesn't have one, we hammered one up on the wall.

1323
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,320
But if you were just so long, everybody has a...

1324
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,740
But you also put them in for people who have bought their own,

1325
01:50:28,900 --> 01:50:30,060
and then you put them up, right?

1326
01:50:30,060 --> 01:50:36,720
Yeah, it's two-way street, you know, okay. Thank you. Okay. So I have the

1327
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:43,920
stretcher replacement as well as the rescue airbags, which is $30,000. And this

1328
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:47,280
is kind of the new way I'm doing your capital outlays to give you a really good

1329
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,740
description of what we're buying. I know that comes up every year, so this is just

1330
01:50:50,740 --> 01:50:52,440
kind of a new way to repeat yourself.

1331
01:50:54,980 --> 01:50:57,100
And so we have your thermal imaging

1332
01:50:57,100 --> 01:51:04,160
camera as well as your extra on AB equipment. So in the fire department training room, it was put in in

1333
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:09,620
2013 when we built the fire station, it hasn't been updated since then and it's done.

1334
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,820
Okay, anyone? Okay.

1335
01:51:13,820 --> 01:51:18,980
I'm sorry, I'm question now. So we're adding an ambulance this year. With so it's supposed to be

1336
01:51:18,980 --> 01:51:23,140
so remember you had your 200,000, we had that 200,000 this year to place the order.

1337
01:51:23,140 --> 01:51:28,620
I might place the order only the other 250 to finish that off and we don't.

1338
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:33,000
So instead of paying off 400,000 next year, you're a split net.

1339
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:40,880
Now, it's going to be a little funky because they don't expect payment until the actual

1340
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,040
fire truck gets here.

1341
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:47,380
So I'm probably going to have to roll over the 200,000 from this year into next year, so

1342
01:51:47,380 --> 01:51:52,660
it'll go into your reserve, but then back out again, but we'll do that over a roll over

1343
01:51:52,660 --> 01:51:58,460
budget adjustment like we do every year, but they don't need payment for the entire truck,

1344
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:04,100
but for dollars in accounting purposes, you're first 200,000 to give information to

1345
01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:08,800
place the order exists in this year, and the remainder of the balance for the fire truck

1346
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:13,340
will come out in next year's budget. So instead of taking off 400,000, you're only taking

1347
01:52:13,340 --> 01:52:21,140
250. Okay, very good. Yes, Councillor Marsha. Thanks for two years. So this is the second

1348
01:52:21,140 --> 01:52:28,060
new truck that we've gotten. This is ambulance. This is ambulance. Yeah. But this is a 2013

1349
01:52:28,060 --> 01:52:37,140
replacement. But we did one in the in the last two years also. Correct. Okay. And that was

1350
01:52:37,140 --> 01:52:42,460
that was with our RF funding. No, that was a fire truck with your RF. Oh, RF. Oh, yes. And then you

1351
01:52:42,460 --> 01:52:45,920
did an ambulance. Yes. I thought we did. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

1352
01:52:49,260 --> 01:52:51,120
And then a support truck for 100,000

1353
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,040
of $1,000, it's replacing it in 2012.

1354
01:52:53,620 --> 01:52:55,780
And so when we talk about 100,000 miles,

1355
01:52:56,780 --> 01:53:00,800
then the example of a vehicle going over 100,000 miles.

1356
01:53:04,850 --> 01:53:08,210
And then our auto pulse, 45,000,

1357
01:53:08,290 --> 01:53:11,590
this helps keep you alive until we can get you to the hospital.

1358
01:53:12,910 --> 01:53:14,010
Unless you want to trust Mike,

1359
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:16,550
giving you trash compressions all the way from here

1360
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:17,130
to the hospital.

1361
01:53:18,830 --> 01:53:19,390
Did you really?

1362
01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:21,270
Did you really?

1363
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:21,390
Did you really?

1364
01:53:23,470 --> 01:53:29,550
So you're a total capital outlay for your fire departments, 520,000,

1365
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:37,840
and so I'm going to throw this out here.

1366
01:53:38,260 --> 01:53:43,520
So your capital for this year's 3.6 million, your fire, all of these things like you said,

1367
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:49,720
the auto pulse, your structure, with maybe the exception of the truck, but everything that's in here,

1368
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:56,400
our life safety measures, you would not have been able to purchase these items sitting at

1369
01:53:56,400 --> 01:54:02,000
$3 million, because you're $3 million would have gone down to $2.5, and so you would

1370
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,760
have only been able to do this. You wouldn't have been able to purchase any other capital

1371
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:13,000
out of it. So I like to, when we say, oh, here, fluffing up the reserve fund. Now if you

1372
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,580
keep it at $3 million, these are the things that you can't do, and we haven't been able

1373
01:54:16,580 --> 01:54:21,960
to do. We always come and we're like slash the capital because we can't afford it. Now you're

1374
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:26,800
sitting in a position to be able to without batting an eye, purchase the things that

1375
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:27,280
you need.

1376
01:54:30,910 --> 01:54:35,710
So public works is coming in. This is the breakdown of your public works department.

1377
01:54:37,390 --> 01:54:42,790
The big ones here, I had to go up a little bit. We really slash my wind is budget a little

1378
01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:48,610
bit last year. Materials have gone up and I forgot it. I'll bring it with a retreat. I

1379
01:54:48,610 --> 01:54:54,170
have them give me some examples of some equipment and some just items that we normally purchase

1380
01:54:54,170 --> 01:54:58,790
that have just gone up in price so I have those as examples I just didn't bring them with

1381
01:54:58,790 --> 01:55:06,510
me there on my desk. But you'll see increase here that have gone up a little bit. They did. We

1382
01:55:06,510 --> 01:55:11,270
don't have to purchase the AC kennels but we just need to do some regular maintenance on the

1383
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:13,110
that are back there.

1384
01:55:17,900 --> 01:55:24,940
The big one here is the project consultant. So you'll see 20,000, that's

1385
01:55:24,940 --> 01:55:31,400
this is one that may go. This is Melinda. If I need to bring her back for the erosion project,

1386
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:35,710
you don't have enough sitting in your stormwater fund. Now David may be able to handle it,

1387
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:41,660
but you have some small projects coming up in the next coming year, especially with some water

1388
01:55:41,660 --> 01:55:44,060
to be able to move forward with those,

1389
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:45,980
if we're able to get grants and stuff,

1390
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,260
you may need some assistant due to that you're staffing levels.

1391
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:52,900
I'm not saying David can't handle it,

1392
01:55:53,500 --> 01:55:55,640
but it's definitely an added on,

1393
01:55:55,660 --> 01:55:58,760
and Melinda was very familiar with the erosion project,

1394
01:55:58,900 --> 01:56:02,880
the erosion piece, and so to get David back up to stuff.

1395
01:56:03,300 --> 01:56:06,240
Now, again, I'm 610,000 in the whole,

1396
01:56:06,340 --> 01:56:09,380
this would be one of the things that we would consider

1397
01:56:09,380 --> 01:56:11,460
to take out if we needed to take out.

1398
01:56:12,340 --> 01:56:16,880
But again, I just letting you know, like it's sitting in there, I'm highlighting it, but it's

1399
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:20,480
something that we may not be able to do, but that's one of the increases.

1400
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:33,800
For public works, your capital is a 2013 Ford Replacement, a 2012 F-150.

1401
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:45,600
We do have 250,000 for architectural design for the public work building, as well as 33,000

1402
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,580
sitting for cleaning of their AC filters.

1403
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:55,880
So if you haven't seen my City Manager's report, we got a report on our AC ducts not being

1404
01:56:55,880 --> 01:57:03,220
cleaned, and in taking a proactive approach, we're scheduling in all of the buildings that

1405
01:57:03,220 --> 01:57:07,480
have in order to be proactive and not wait for a complaint. So we're going to go ahead and do that.

1406
01:57:08,540 --> 01:57:14,000
Is that 33,000 for just just public court just what you build in City Hall. That's what I

1407
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:18,620
thought just City Hall. Just not the fire department fire department separate. You're going to be doing a

1408
01:57:18,620 --> 01:57:22,360
budget adjustment next month. We're going to do it. We have to do it this year. I don't have a choice like

1409
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:28,280
right just that is what it is. That one's going to be roughly about 16,000 with the UV light. It's

1410
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:32,220
within my parameters to purchase. You do not have a choice. You have to do the fire department. We'll

1411
01:57:32,220 --> 01:57:34,540
to come over for a budget adjustment in September.

1412
01:57:35,300 --> 01:57:37,380
We're going to bring that to you.

1413
01:57:37,500 --> 01:57:39,200
We had some bad doors on the fire department,

1414
01:57:39,340 --> 01:57:41,460
that just went out that have to be,

1415
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,400
you can't just leave the bad door open, like they have to be done.

1416
01:57:44,860 --> 01:57:47,600
I know we have a conversation on what my authority is to spend.

1417
01:57:47,820 --> 01:57:49,780
Technically, by state law, I have $100,000.

1418
01:57:50,180 --> 01:57:50,580
I can spend.

1419
01:57:50,860 --> 01:57:53,180
I haven't increased our policy.

1420
01:57:53,300 --> 01:57:54,340
I was a sitting at 50.

1421
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,100
I wouldn't recommend that you increase it 200,000.

1422
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,520
I may not always be your sitting manager.

1423
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,380
And so I have your best interest at heart.

1424
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,200
I don't willingly spend unless I absolutely have to.

1425
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,340
And so I normally will come to y'all.

1426
01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:11,760
I'll let y'all know this is what's happening.

1427
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:13,500
And we'll come for a budget adjustment.

1428
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,480
You'll see my budget adjustments are the number

1429
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,280
of budget adjustments I request every year,

1430
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:21,200
or pretty minimal, not only two or three a year.

1431
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,840
I don't use to have like six to 10.

1432
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,840
And then your city manager before had a discretionary fund

1433
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:29,340
on top of her ability to spend.

1434
01:58:29,580 --> 01:58:33,560
She also had an additional 200,000, that she can spend on whatever she wanted.

1435
01:58:34,340 --> 01:58:37,660
I don't have that, I don't have that money.

1436
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:45,740
So I want to highlight those items because they do come up and so I am probably one of the most

1437
01:58:45,740 --> 01:58:50,220
fruitful people that you will know, I treat your budget like if it's my money too, I'm

1438
01:58:50,220 --> 01:58:51,400
not just going to spend a spend.

1439
01:58:51,400 --> 01:59:02,380
But your AC debt cleaning, we got a complaint, it's something that has to be done in order to minimize your risk for possible future litigation.

1440
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:10,160
And your public works capital sitting at 413,000.

1441
01:59:12,830 --> 01:59:17,090
Now, you may choose not to do the public works plans or the engineering for that.

1442
01:59:18,050 --> 01:59:18,930
Definitely a chunk.

1443
01:59:19,490 --> 01:59:21,130
So, again, just something to highlight.

1444
01:59:21,810 --> 01:59:23,690
You're planning and zoning department?

1445
01:59:24,410 --> 01:59:24,830
Oh, I'm sorry.

1446
01:59:25,370 --> 01:59:27,170
Councillor Compas, go ahead.

1447
01:59:27,450 --> 01:59:34,010
But in that same conversation about the public works, and we, you know, were the 250,000.

1448
01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:38,490
Again, that's not part of the 600,000 deficit.

1449
01:59:38,630 --> 01:59:40,150
This is a capital outlay.

1450
01:59:40,550 --> 01:59:42,130
Okay, that goes against our reserve.

1451
01:59:42,570 --> 01:59:44,330
Okay, just want to make that clear for everybody.

1452
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:48,950
So that won't bring down the 614,000 deficits, what you're saying?

1453
01:59:49,570 --> 01:59:55,870
But again, you wouldn't be sitting in the position to even consider that if you were sitting at three million dollars.

1454
01:59:56,370 --> 01:59:59,970
The reason you're able to consider these items that are needed that have been-

1455
02:00:01,700 --> 02:00:15,320
We've had conversations about public work since 2012, 2013. You haven't been able to even have that conversation without it being attached to a bond conversation because you didn't have the money being able to do that.

1456
02:00:15,460 --> 02:00:27,360
You are able to do, I feel comfortable enough if you spend the three point six this year and do everything that I'm recommending. You are okay and you would not be able to have that conversation otherwise.

1457
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:53,720
And so I'm, you're going to hear me say that over and over again because I'm trying to drive home a point that you're three million isn't enough anymore to sit in your reserve fund in order for you to continue to operate and do the things that you need to do to keep the city moving because if your tax rate goes up in order to support your M&O, you're not going to be able to go out or you could go out for a bond, but then your tax rate could be sitting at 0.65, 0.64 if it went up like that.

1458
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:57,760
So I'm trying to mitigate your debt, as well,

1459
02:00:57,900 --> 02:01:00,100
and make sure that you can support

1460
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:03,300
some of those projects with what you have sitting in your reserve.

1461
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:05,380
Now, you may not agree with me,

1462
02:01:05,380 --> 02:01:07,680
and that is your prerogative to do that,

1463
02:01:07,700 --> 02:01:09,600
and it is your prerogative to vote differently.

1464
02:01:09,780 --> 02:01:11,700
So if you don't want to do the public work to the lean,

1465
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,360
if you don't want to do the police department property room,

1466
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:16,300
you all have the power.

1467
02:01:16,620 --> 02:01:18,400
The power does not sit with me.

1468
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:19,980
The power sits with y'all.

1469
02:01:20,260 --> 02:01:22,640
You were voted into the office to spend these dollars.

1470
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:28,040
These are just me and the staff's recommendation on how these dollars should be spent, so I want to make that clear.

1471
02:01:29,540 --> 02:01:30,920
That is true.

1472
02:01:30,980 --> 02:01:31,140
That is true.

1473
02:01:31,140 --> 02:01:34,960
How do you have a choice on the property room?

1474
02:01:35,300 --> 02:01:38,580
I say you don't have a choice, but I mean technically you don't budget for it.

1475
02:01:38,660 --> 02:01:44,780
We don't do it and then mean the chief have a decision to make whether or not we can stay out of continue to work here and stay out of compliance.

1476
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:46,920
Okay, well, I'll address this further.

1477
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:49,560
We'll go back to it.

1478
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:56,480
or whether you all would want to do that.

1479
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,180
I mean, you're property, I mean, evidence,

1480
02:01:58,660 --> 02:02:00,060
chain custody and evidence.

1481
02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:03,740
We showed you, or for those that went to the CPAC,

1482
02:02:04,300 --> 02:02:07,080
you saw the news clippings from cities that didn't do that.

1483
02:02:07,620 --> 02:02:08,860
So, at least that in Google that,

1484
02:02:09,820 --> 02:02:11,820
and that would not look good on the city either.

1485
02:02:13,420 --> 02:02:16,860
So, your planning and zoning department,

1486
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,860
you'll see big increases over here 384,000

1487
02:02:20,860 --> 02:02:25,680
then for your cynical West inspections, you will also see that on your revenue site.

1488
02:02:25,700 --> 02:02:31,980
It is a wash, so it's not impacting your budget, it's just the number of houses that are

1489
02:02:31,980 --> 02:02:35,740
being turned out in the subdivision, you're going to have that increased expenditure to

1490
02:02:35,740 --> 02:02:41,060
BB inspections in your health inspector, and so you will also see that on your revenue site

1491
02:02:41,060 --> 02:02:41,520
of things.

1492
02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:47,680
So the developer has to pay the inspection fee, so you'll see that in your revenue increase,

1493
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:50,900
and you'll see the expenditure going out here as well. So, it's a wash.

1494
02:02:52,260 --> 02:02:53,340
But, I know, I'm sorry.

1495
02:02:53,900 --> 02:02:57,140
The 250 for the comprehensive master plan.

1496
02:02:59,140 --> 02:03:01,160
I thought it came in.

1497
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:03,660
It's just a wash. That's what you budgeted that.

1498
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,820
I know, but it didn't come in at 250.

1499
02:03:06,140 --> 02:03:09,720
It came in at 1.38 or something from Ardura.

1500
02:03:10,740 --> 02:03:13,120
So, that extra is going into the reserve.

1501
02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:18,680
Okay, well actually it's a little bit more than that. I added the transportation component on Bender Road

1502
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:23,040
So it's like 140 something. Okay, but it's up. Yeah, it's definitely less than to chew 50

1503
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,520
But that wasn't this year's budget

1504
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:30,060
Understit that I just want to make that comment that I did think we spent to 50

1505
02:03:31,740 --> 02:03:34,380
We budgeted, but we didn't it came in lower

1506
02:03:34,380 --> 02:03:40,160
Correct, and the reason it came in lower was because our deer had already done your horn master plan

1507
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:44,300
How that not happened, it would have been to share.

1508
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,460
Your economic development fund, this is your economic development.

1509
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,240
Your personnel services are sitting at 399.

1510
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:57,460
Your contractual is at 399 and your capital outlay as at 440.

1511
02:03:57,900 --> 02:04:01,920
Leaving your ending fund balance sitting at 883,000.

1512
02:04:02,460 --> 02:04:06,560
So just to clarify that total personnel services includes

1513
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:15,660
The two code enforcement officers in Sarah's full salary and Christian Miranda's percentage.

1514
02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:18,440
Those four people that's it.

1515
02:04:20,490 --> 02:04:26,870
And so, so you'll see here your project funding is zero.

1516
02:04:27,210 --> 02:04:28,710
I apologize when we're playing with numbers.

1517
02:04:28,910 --> 02:04:30,690
We were looking at sitting at about 20.

1518
02:04:32,410 --> 02:04:39,130
But that changed because what I projected for your salary increases and we'll go over that in just a little bit.

1519
02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:46,370
Your economic development, again, for the majority of things, have gone down.

1520
02:04:46,730 --> 02:04:49,950
We've budgeted pretty much the same for our staff.

1521
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,100
And so you do have some capital that's still remaining.

1522
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:59,220
You still owe on some of your agreements.

1523
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:02,680
And then I have your public, the other 250 from your public works department.

1524
02:05:03,380 --> 02:05:05,500
And now I have 100,000 for Tyler.

1525
02:05:05,580 --> 02:05:08,060
This is the upgrade to go to the cloud base system.

1526
02:05:08,060 --> 02:05:13,780
Now, can I split that? I can't share it with the water department if you want to but the problem with that is is your water

1527
02:05:13,780 --> 02:05:18,920
Is it your enterprise fund isn't doing as well that would like it to do right now, so I'm putting it all here

1528
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:23,800
So the public works building plants and engineers coming from the

1529
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:32,220
Reserved fund your reserve eddy your reserve general fund. Your reserve eddy fund

1530
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:37,140
And I think I think it's a total I think I did five hundred dollars

1531
02:05:37,140 --> 02:05:39,060
So that's the thing, how I split it.

1532
02:05:39,900 --> 02:05:42,980
You could take, you don't have to take 100,000 from here.

1533
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:44,300
You could take some from another fund.

1534
02:05:44,460 --> 02:05:48,200
The problem is, as we get to your water department,

1535
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:50,900
you'll see, especially in your storm water department,

1536
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:53,340
if we do the 800,000 for the erosion plan,

1537
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:55,440
because I programmed that in based on the surveys

1538
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:58,060
that were coming in, you'd only be sitting at,

1539
02:05:58,180 --> 02:06:00,360
like, 234,000 in the good over there.

1540
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:03,260
And so that's really not, we're not to have a conversation

1541
02:06:03,260 --> 02:06:04,460
about what that looks like.

1542
02:06:06,140 --> 02:06:13,480
So, your water department until we start seeing the impact of the rate increases, you're not really going to be able to...

1543
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:17,220
We used to be able to shift things over from your general fund to your water fund.

1544
02:06:17,300 --> 02:06:20,520
You're not going to be able to do that right now until we start seeing the impact.

1545
02:06:20,700 --> 02:06:34,440
And then another conversation, we're not there yet, but when you get to your enterprise fund, one of the big arguments at the time from Mr. Bradshaw and from...

1546
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:38,940
So our Tears Matt Shaw's, when our sauce is going up 33% over the next three years.

1547
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:41,480
So is that the conversation you still want to have?

1548
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:42,200
We need a Matt Shaw.

1549
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:46,640
So we do we need to re-evaluate the water again and go up in order to Matt Shaw's.

1550
02:06:46,900 --> 02:06:48,720
So that's another conversation.

1551
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:50,180
It's not a right now conversation.

1552
02:06:50,420 --> 02:06:57,380
I don't have that programmed into the enterprise fund, but your enterprise fund isn't

1553
02:06:57,380 --> 02:07:01,440
like you're not going to be able to offset your general fund with your, with the water fund.

1554
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:09,180
Can you give us the balance then after we if all of this 440 is it is it's right there where is it?

1555
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:10,720
883,000 dollars.

1556
02:07:11,460 --> 02:07:13,120
You're ending your homes.

1557
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:14,100
No, that's expenditure.

1558
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:17,800
I'm at the right there.

1559
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:19,640
Help.

1560
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:21,000
That's not right.

1561
02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:23,180
It's sitting.

1562
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,000
Go back hold on.

1563
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:29,840
Yeah, it'll be the reserve fund wherever that is or the.

1564
02:07:30,140 --> 02:07:31,180
Where is that at?

1565
02:07:31,180 --> 02:07:32,280
I know.

1566
02:07:33,060 --> 02:07:34,360
Where did I put that at?

1567
02:07:34,660 --> 02:07:35,260
It's cut off.

1568
02:07:37,740 --> 02:07:38,620
I think it's on this slide.

1569
02:07:38,780 --> 02:07:39,260
It's just cut off.

1570
02:07:39,380 --> 02:07:39,960
We'll get it for you.

1571
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:41,100
Thank you.

1572
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:47,280
It's the 440,000 minus you'll be getting fun balance and it's not on this one.

1573
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:47,620
Okay.

1574
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:48,380
That's fine.

1575
02:07:48,620 --> 02:07:49,480
We can do that on Saturday.

1576
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:51,780
Take me because I'm like, I thought I'm one of them.

1577
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:52,160
Sorry.

1578
02:07:52,180 --> 02:07:54,440
I think it was our copy-paste situation.

1579
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:55,200
Yep.

1580
02:07:55,980 --> 02:07:56,160
Okay.

1581
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:57,200
I'll get that for you.

1582
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:05,560
Um, y'all, these are your breakdown of your capital and your ED fund, which is your

1583
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:09,620
world's tile, your little seat, your little scissors, or the other thing that's seen in

1584
02:08:09,620 --> 02:08:12,580
there is a possible hotel feasibility study, I'm sorry.

1585
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:19,780
Somebody told me that tricolor got upstarted again, and it's another, it's going to be another

1586
02:08:19,780 --> 02:08:24,760
car dealership, so do we still need to do the hotel feasibility study?

1587
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:32,280
Maybe again, it's a conversation we can have. Okay. I wasn't planning on a hotel next to track color. That wasn't where I wasn't thinking your hotel

1588
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:33,020
Okay

1589
02:08:33,580 --> 02:08:42,700
It was pitched out as an idea when you're taking your economic development interviews. I was looking at an expansion with your aquarium because they generate quite a bit in sales tax

1590
02:08:42,700 --> 02:08:47,500
And so I would have rather have your sales tax impacted because if you look at the pie chart

1591
02:08:47,500 --> 02:08:49,620
Your sales tax goes to your general

1592
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:55,780
fundraiser, hotel motel tax only can be used for tourism. It's got a very specific use.

1593
02:08:56,200 --> 02:09:01,980
So hotel motel taxes at my top priority, but it is another revenue source that we can investigate.

1594
02:09:03,100 --> 02:09:12,120
And I do think you have around 410 where you have it's now expressed in, but it was like your equal lodge.

1595
02:09:12,780 --> 02:09:16,260
I'm looking because it has increased call volume and some other things.

1596
02:09:16,260 --> 02:09:20,800
I was really looking at a hotel feasibility study to have somebody come in, tear that down

1597
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:24,040
and build something nicer, because it is awful for 10.

1598
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:30,240
That was my concept for the hotel feasibility study to pitch to some nicer hotels if we were

1599
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:37,120
to take some of our reserve fund and help demolish that and kind of help the transition

1600
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:41,880
for that as part of an economic development project was my idea, but we hadn't gotten there

1601
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:43,880
to have that conversation yet.

1602
02:09:44,860 --> 02:09:56,580
Yeah, I was just thinking it was that when we did the interviews for the economic development that was an idea that came up, which is a great idea thinking outside the box all of the things.

1603
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:08,000
But for us and what I know here and what I was wanting to do with that tri-color property is I know that can be no I know people hear the aquarium and PETA and the animals and all the things.

1604
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:19,840
But they do generate quite a bit in sales tax revenue, and they were looking at one point in expanding a little bit, and so I was looking at more having a conversation with them about an expansion project.

1605
02:10:21,060 --> 02:10:29,500
But as you know, when we were dealing with the Estadage Cardulation flips are quite complicated, and so it looks like it's going to be another Cardulation.

1606
02:10:29,960 --> 02:10:30,400
Okay,

1607
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:40,560
public works building plans and engineering, that's the other 250,000, but again, we don't have to do the hotel feasibility. I mean, guys, like, I understand.

1608
02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:50,840
It's just, that was just my preliminary, you know, happening where it's just a spot. Tyler Technologies, this is the upgrade, it won't really be all 100,000 upfront.

1609
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:53,960
We have to put a portion down.

1610
02:10:54,680 --> 02:11:00,220
It's about an 18 to 24 month transition to 10.

1611
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:03,240
They're giving us more of like a warning.

1612
02:11:04,300 --> 02:11:06,280
So if we don't do it next year,

1613
02:11:07,140 --> 02:11:09,600
we're going to have to do it the following year.

1614
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:11,760
So I'm programming the full amount now

1615
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:13,680
because you have it now

1616
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:15,840
and then we can go ahead and sign that agreement

1617
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:16,920
if you all were to prove

1618
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:19,300
and then we just kind of set aside that money

1619
02:11:19,300 --> 02:11:23,180
and then each year we'd have to roll it over probably for the next two fiscal years until that

1620
02:11:23,180 --> 02:11:28,500
kind of like what we did transition, your Microsoft Office 365, it rolled over for two years,

1621
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:31,590
so we could complete that transition. This would be kind of similar to that.

1622
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:39,200
And code. Okay. They're just going actually, I think in long term it might be a little bit cheaper

1623
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:43,010
when to make the transition right now. It lives on a server, server here at City Hall.

1624
02:11:45,010 --> 02:11:50,390
And so the cloud base may be over time, because you're not having a purchase of equipment,

1625
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:54,050
you're not having a purchase to serve your equipment in order to support that technology.

1626
02:11:55,930 --> 02:11:58,510
Could save you money on that, not a lot of money, but could save you money on that.

1627
02:11:59,130 --> 02:12:05,930
Your code enforcement and animal control, again, you'll see it zeroed out because we moved it over into your EDCD fund.

1628
02:12:07,590 --> 02:12:11,550
And for the most part, everything kind of is leveling out.

1629
02:12:12,110 --> 02:12:14,810
This department, technically, is falling under Michael.

1630
02:12:15,070 --> 02:12:17,170
He's going to be managing the code enforcement staff.

1631
02:12:17,670 --> 02:12:20,430
We did lose a code enforcement office, nothing to do with Michael.

1632
02:12:21,090 --> 02:12:22,330
He just didn't, he liked the code.

1633
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:24,210
He didn't like the animal side of things.

1634
02:12:24,750 --> 02:12:27,390
And so he only wanted to do code.

1635
02:12:27,430 --> 02:12:30,490
And unfortunately, I couldn't just do that.

1636
02:12:31,730 --> 02:12:34,530
Because when somebody takes off, somebody has to go and get the animals.

1637
02:12:34,530 --> 02:12:38,790
And so he decided to part ways with us because he didn't want to help him handle dogs.

1638
02:12:39,290 --> 02:12:47,770
So thank goodness for Elijah, he's been dedicated and Elijah's officially certified now.

1639
02:12:47,790 --> 02:12:51,590
Oh, and so he's been here for a couple of years now, right?

1640
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:52,570
Yeah, I'll do, I think.

1641
02:12:55,270 --> 02:12:56,390
You're special events.

1642
02:12:56,750 --> 02:13:01,510
Okay, so in your special events, the mayor pitched a volunteer appreciation dinner again.

1643
02:13:01,510 --> 02:13:03,610
So I put that in there.

1644
02:13:04,070 --> 02:13:07,630
I put 15,000 for the fourth, if you want to continue with a small event.

1645
02:13:08,730 --> 02:13:13,550
I know we'll talk a little bit on Saturday about the fourth and all of that, but it's

1646
02:13:13,550 --> 02:13:20,950
still ranking number three, so if you take the top three on the other side, you would have

1647
02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:23,890
to add three police officers, because that ranks number three on the other side.

1648
02:13:24,610 --> 02:13:30,610
So it's just a conversation you don't need to have, but I've did put in 15,000, our Christmas

1649
02:13:30,610 --> 02:13:35,930
tree lighting, here's the P.S. metal, so this is the expenditure side of your P.S.

1650
02:13:35,930 --> 02:13:40,670
to metal, and then, because we added the volunteer appreciation dinner, I added the staff

1651
02:13:40,670 --> 02:13:45,590
holiday lunch and back in as well. Again, as we're again, just a conversation. Those were

1652
02:13:45,590 --> 02:13:51,310
the two things that I got from volunteers was, no volunteer at dinner this year, Mayor,

1653
02:13:51,670 --> 02:13:56,370
and no metals, so it seemed to be a recurring thing around. And so I don't know if you hurt

1654
02:13:56,370 --> 02:13:58,830
but anyway that I just mentioned that to me.

1655
02:13:58,830 --> 02:13:59,870
Well, why are you going to leave those?

1656
02:13:59,950 --> 02:14:01,550
It's not going to say B-610,000.

1657
02:14:01,630 --> 02:14:02,530
No, it's not.

1658
02:14:02,810 --> 02:14:03,350
So I mean it.

1659
02:14:03,650 --> 02:14:05,950
But anyway, it's a conversation we can have.

1660
02:14:06,610 --> 02:14:08,110
Yes, Councillor Arasca.

1661
02:14:08,630 --> 02:14:12,910
Crystal, I know that the money that is being put in mind

1662
02:14:12,910 --> 02:14:16,630
in this, but you don't have the event on here.

1663
02:14:16,810 --> 02:14:20,230
It should cost us that much to do the presentation.

1664
02:14:21,230 --> 02:14:23,030
Would that fall under the lead you?

1665
02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:30,610
I mean, that's up to you on what you all want to do, that would be a separate line item.

1666
02:14:31,790 --> 02:14:36,370
We were originally, the original concept was to unveil it with the Fourth of July and the

1667
02:14:36,370 --> 02:14:38,130
Legion didn't want to do that.

1668
02:14:39,110 --> 02:14:42,750
We have to have a whole conversation at the retreat about the Legion and their expectations

1669
02:14:42,750 --> 02:14:47,950
of the city and there were unwilling to help support the monument and they ask a lot

1670
02:14:47,950 --> 02:14:49,790
from us to give to them for free.

1671
02:14:50,210 --> 02:14:54,710
So, you know, we do need to have a conversation with them about that, but our conversation

1672
02:14:54,710 --> 02:14:57,590
with y'all on how you want to continue to support them.

1673
02:14:59,130 --> 02:14:59,970
But with that being...

1674
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:16,040
I said, you don't need any money really if you're just going to unveil it and cut a ribbon. Like, I just depends on what you want to do. Now, if you want to have like a whole hot dog than hamburger situation and all that stuff, then yeah, you're going to have to have some money, but I don't have any money for the unveiling.

1675
02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:19,240
I bet you could get sponsors for that if that's what you wanted.

1676
02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:24,320
I mean, I don't have to have, you know, or we're changing it, but I don't want to, you know,

1677
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:30,280
for it to be mediocre, we're, uh, percent in a modeling mess for men and women

1678
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:35,820
in a gig in life, but it's country or still here, and we're willing to put their lives

1679
02:15:35,820 --> 02:15:39,760
from this country. I don't want to make a mediocre. We don't want it.

1680
02:15:39,780 --> 02:15:44,560
You already spent 40,000 on a monument. I mean, so if you, it just depends on what you

1681
02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:48,060
want to do for the event. Okay, we can continue talking about it a bit.

1682
02:15:48,060 --> 02:15:53,500
Yeah, okay, Councillor Marshall. So are we still kind of on track that the

1683
02:15:53,500 --> 02:15:58,200
monument could be ready by the fourth of July? It won't be. It won't be. It's scheduled

1684
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:03,020
date. I think it's like October 15th or so. So I don't hear the fiscal year. It will be

1685
02:16:03,020 --> 02:16:07,140
it's ordered the purchase what we haven't paid for yet. It'll be those that's another

1686
02:16:07,140 --> 02:16:13,520
roll over item, but it'll happen almost immediately into the new fiscal year. So, but yes,

1687
02:16:13,780 --> 02:16:17,260
and so it'll be there and it'll be installed and all of the great things.

1688
02:16:17,260 --> 02:16:20,260
We just got to figure out what event it's going to be.

1689
02:16:20,380 --> 02:16:24,240
If it's going to be by itself, if it's going to be its own unveiling, however, you all want

1690
02:16:24,240 --> 02:16:26,400
to handle that.

1691
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:33,020
So if you just want to do a ribbon cutting, proclamation, and have the American Legion there,

1692
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:34,140
that kind of thing.

1693
02:16:34,140 --> 02:16:39,260
If you want to line it up with mine 11, and even though it's installed, you don't do your

1694
02:16:39,260 --> 02:16:43,220
unveiling until the American Legion does their 9.11 event, you can certainly do that.

1695
02:16:43,620 --> 02:16:46,060
So it's definitely a conversation we can continue to have.

1696
02:16:46,060 --> 02:16:56,200
I just need to know, if you're going to require us to have water or food or if it's going to be on the weekends after hours, I need a budget over time for that.

1697
02:16:56,480 --> 02:16:57,640
I mean, not for a lot of people.

1698
02:16:57,740 --> 02:16:59,120
And that's where I was going with that.

1699
02:16:59,460 --> 02:17:06,880
Yeah, so, but I just need to know what you're, how many, if you're looking three hour event, four hour event, what I don't think I said.

1700
02:17:06,880 --> 02:17:08,920
We can cross that bridge, Mayor, when we get to it.

1701
02:17:08,940 --> 02:17:10,920
Yeah, we'll talk about it on Saturday.

1702
02:17:11,700 --> 02:17:11,880
Okay.

1703
02:17:12,060 --> 02:17:12,660
Yes, Councillor.

1704
02:17:13,300 --> 02:17:13,620
Compass.

1705
02:17:14,860 --> 02:17:23,720
So, I was noticing that the earthwise living, but it has been decreased to $2,700,

1706
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:32,940
but how does, so my understanding of the way that that event works is that the earthwise

1707
02:17:32,940 --> 02:17:36,460
living go out and solicit contributions.

1708
02:17:37,440 --> 02:17:37,700
Okay.

1709
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:43,320
And then they don't use all the money that they collected from my understanding.

1710
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:47,700
And so there's a carryover of funds, no?

1711
02:17:48,180 --> 02:17:48,940
No, not necessarily.

1712
02:17:49,680 --> 02:17:52,280
So, ma'am, show job variations of that budget multiple times.

1713
02:17:52,520 --> 02:18:01,100
And so, we always budget 2700, this 7,488 comes into whatever's remaining left over.

1714
02:18:01,260 --> 02:18:05,880
I don't have, we don't, we, I think last year it was like 3,000 or 4,000.

1715
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:08,660
And we have extra this year going forward.

1716
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:12,100
Unless we, we spend it, and that's what we're working on.

1717
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:15,160
Yeah. We're working on it. So they don't know how much they're going to have to

1718
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:19,880
roll over and agree over whether or not they're going to finish spending that money this year.

1719
02:18:20,280 --> 02:18:25,820
So I don't know what that is. So it may be 3,000. It may be 5,000. So that would go back up to

1720
02:18:25,820 --> 02:18:31,300
7,000. So like you see the first year 63 because that's all they had left over to roll over.

1721
02:18:31,500 --> 02:18:36,280
This went up towards the end of the budget conversation when we knew what they were going to

1722
02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:44,300
and we have more presentation and that the council decided how much to move over and so that's what we did last year.

1723
02:18:44,700 --> 02:18:45,720
And so that will happen this year.

1724
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:54,660
And I was going to say that one thing that the committee and police council members piping is we are actually paying

1725
02:18:54,660 --> 02:19:03,570
for replacement of the booth because they're getting old and so we're taking on that responsibility.

1726
02:19:03,570 --> 02:19:06,650
So what else would you say on that?

1727
02:19:07,390 --> 02:19:08,730
But whatever that looks like.

1728
02:19:09,170 --> 02:19:10,710
So I mean, we're no money to carry over.

1729
02:19:10,990 --> 02:19:13,490
It would be up to the council to increase that line item.

1730
02:19:14,030 --> 02:19:18,810
But from my understanding, you'll have it finish having the conversation about what you'll want to go over.

1731
02:19:19,090 --> 02:19:20,710
So we always start off at 2,700.

1732
02:19:21,610 --> 02:19:24,090
Then I present to you all this is what they actually spent.

1733
02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:28,430
Whether you want to include staff or whatever you want to include as far as the expenditure portion or not.

1734
02:19:28,430 --> 02:19:33,490
And then we take whatever's remaining and we add it to this amount.

1735
02:19:33,950 --> 02:19:35,330
But I don't know that yet.

1736
02:19:35,330 --> 02:19:38,250
But we always kind of start off with, because we can't work with nothing.

1737
02:19:38,710 --> 02:19:40,710
So we start off at the 2700.

1738
02:19:40,990 --> 02:19:44,430
And then if they have nothing, if they say, look, we're going to replace the booze.

1739
02:19:44,530 --> 02:19:45,310
We're going to do this.

1740
02:19:45,310 --> 02:19:46,790
This is how we're spending this money.

1741
02:19:47,010 --> 02:19:47,870
We have zero.

1742
02:19:48,190 --> 02:19:50,990
But we can't run next year on 2700.

1743
02:19:51,230 --> 02:19:54,270
Can you give me an additional five.

1744
02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:56,630
Then that's up to the council whether or not to do that.

1745
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:58,030
But right now, we don't know what that is.

1746
02:19:58,030 --> 02:20:03,170
I was going to say that, you know, we thought with the cancellation of the 4th of July, we'd

1747
02:20:03,170 --> 02:20:09,130
get a lot more, the only person who contributed, the only entity that contributed was the

1748
02:20:09,130 --> 02:20:11,170
law firm, line burger, $1,000.

1749
02:20:11,790 --> 02:20:16,330
But the rest of them had already heard that we weren't going to have it, so they didn't.

1750
02:20:16,430 --> 02:20:18,710
I believe that was the only one that we got.

1751
02:20:20,130 --> 02:20:21,690
So that's why we have this movement.

1752
02:20:21,870 --> 02:20:23,010
So I didn't decrease it.

1753
02:20:23,050 --> 02:20:24,670
I just don't know if it's going to be.

1754
02:20:27,950 --> 02:20:31,300
So that's just the breakdown.

1755
02:20:32,140 --> 02:20:33,080
Your parks in Rec.

1756
02:20:34,660 --> 02:20:37,140
We put all your salaries under your general fund.

1757
02:20:37,180 --> 02:20:39,400
We just like to view from all together versus separating them.

1758
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:40,980
So they set in your public works account.

1759
02:20:42,620 --> 02:20:44,620
But we do keep it a separate amount.

1760
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:47,800
We didn't have a whole bunch of increases here.

1761
02:20:48,460 --> 02:20:52,020
I did increase the park maintenance for nets and tables and stuff.

1762
02:20:52,660 --> 02:20:54,340
Just the cost of doing business is going out.

1763
02:20:54,360 --> 02:20:55,640
Then we just have our regular needs.

1764
02:20:55,700 --> 02:20:56,780
What is park amenities?

1765
02:20:56,780 --> 02:21:05,760
So anything to do with like your pavilion, any of like your equipment, any of your barbeque

1766
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:13,200
pit, sometimes need to be blasted and cleaned up with water, you know, I'm trying

1767
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:18,860
to use sophisticated words, but the thing to clean up your barbeque pit, okay.

1768
02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:24,240
A tree removal, I decreased it a little bit.

1769
02:21:25,220 --> 02:21:29,180
I, on your tree mitigation, I put some money over there for that.

1770
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:36,160
We did put some in your capital as well to get some of the under your tree mitigation fund

1771
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:38,140
to get some of the dead trees removed.

1772
02:21:39,900 --> 02:21:45,160
But we did decrease the budget a little bit and the big one of that is your pull contract.

1773
02:21:45,160 --> 02:21:50,820
So you'll see a big decrease, but the big component to that is your pull contract.

1774
02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:54,780
I'm not anticipating any pull revenue, and so therefore I don't have a contract.

1775
02:21:55,580 --> 02:22:00,180
I do, we're anticipating, like, having construction start by next summer.

1776
02:22:00,580 --> 02:22:01,360
I could be wrong.

1777
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:05,500
We're still end up in the, it could be like a text out situation, and then we're going to

1778
02:22:05,500 --> 02:22:11,700
have to flip return and reverse, and I will come back and we will do a budget adjustment

1779
02:22:11,700 --> 02:22:13,100
for them.

1780
02:22:16,820 --> 02:22:21,820
No, it's not that, it's just that we'll be under construction during that, like it won't be open in the summer.

1781
02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:27,700
But you gave us the timeline and so I thought they were going to start like in the fall, right?

1782
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:33,100
Correct, they start but it goes all the way through, if you look at the timeline, it's just the way it goes.

1783
02:22:33,320 --> 02:22:38,680
And then parts have to be, that's our interest, we had the, the hiking bike is a great example of this.

1784
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:42,700
We've had about a hundred different timelines for hiking bikes segment too.

1785
02:22:43,160 --> 02:22:46,440
The Texas Parks and Wildlife work very much like TechSat.

1786
02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:50,880
There's a lot of meetings and plans and forms and all the things.

1787
02:22:51,220 --> 02:22:55,180
And so I would love to say that that timeline is in concrete.

1788
02:22:55,860 --> 02:23:00,080
My experience with state funds is that they're not.

1789
02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:02,880
That those timelines move more often than not.

1790
02:23:03,420 --> 02:23:08,520
And so I am based on the timeline we have, based on what we think we're going to

1791
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:10,620
complete, I think you're going to be close next summer.

1792
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:14,060
If that changes at any point, if I see that,

1793
02:23:14,140 --> 02:23:16,720
it looks like we're hitting close to the fall,

1794
02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:18,820
we're not breaking ground, we have to, we're not contracts,

1795
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:20,600
then I know we're not going to break ground

1796
02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:22,080
in the middle of a summer.

1797
02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:25,880
And so then I've got to come back to you all and say,

1798
02:23:25,980 --> 02:23:27,320
look, if you want to be open, this is what's

1799
02:23:27,320 --> 02:23:30,640
going to cost, and you know, OK.

1800
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:33,980
But the river, Uno reverse, is kind of where

1801
02:23:33,980 --> 02:23:34,780
we're at with that.

1802
02:23:34,780 --> 02:23:36,960
But that's the big decrease.

1803
02:23:40,870 --> 02:23:44,470
And again, if you account so full's more comfortable budgeting for it,

1804
02:23:44,570 --> 02:23:48,390
rather than not, you're certainly more than welcome to do so.

1805
02:23:48,870 --> 02:23:51,370
But that would impact that 610,000.

1806
02:23:55,070 --> 02:23:57,010
Your mayor, this is your capital.

1807
02:23:57,710 --> 02:24:02,870
So we do have the 1.2 million for your hike and bike too.

1808
02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:12,990
We have your veterans memorial, monument, what we think we're going to finish owning your sprinkler system.

1809
02:24:13,310 --> 02:24:15,550
You're right away tree removal for your tree mitigation.

1810
02:24:16,370 --> 02:24:17,050
Yes, I'm sorry.

1811
02:24:17,970 --> 02:24:19,530
Councillor Comfort has a question.

1812
02:24:19,930 --> 02:24:20,550
Dr. Caldery.

1813
02:24:22,170 --> 02:24:25,650
This hike and bike sprinkler system.

1814
02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:29,070
This is something other than the recycle.

1815
02:24:29,270 --> 02:24:30,990
No, this is the recycled water line.

1816
02:24:30,990 --> 02:24:35,070
Because I didn't see anything about recycle.

1817
02:24:35,390 --> 02:24:40,990
We just, it's my fault, because originally it was the sprinkler system, so I didn't update the language for it.

1818
02:24:41,350 --> 02:24:46,350
But since the conversation, we updated the number, I just didn't update the narrative, so we will do that.

1819
02:24:46,650 --> 02:24:54,910
And do we have, I don't know if it's in for the retreat, an idea of how much potable water we currently use.

1820
02:24:54,930 --> 02:24:57,410
David's getting that number for me, I'm hoping to have that for Saturday.

1821
02:24:57,590 --> 02:24:59,950
That was a question that somebody asked at the last meeting.

1822
02:24:59,950 --> 02:25:04,690
Um, so he's getting that number. I'll have it for you at the retreat. Thank you.

1823
02:25:07,340 --> 02:25:12,440
Um, your tree mitigation fund. We're putting 90,000 into clean up your dead trees.

1824
02:25:15,020 --> 02:25:21,880
Your library. Um, it's kind of breakdown of your library. Um, we're keeping them pretty much the same.

1825
02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:26,880
Um, I did have a little bit of repairs and maintenance for their building.

1826
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:33,160
And the thing I thought we were going to be able to make it is their AC, oops, sorry.

1827
02:25:33,860 --> 02:25:36,840
I had it removed because you're going to have to buy it this year.

1828
02:25:37,340 --> 02:25:42,660
It went out, and so we're going to have to replace our AC that will be an uncoming budget adjustment

1829
02:25:42,660 --> 02:25:43,720
for you all.

1830
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:45,460
They can't get it back up and running.

1831
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:46,320
So it's one of their older.

1832
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:47,540
What is that going to cost?

1833
02:25:48,300 --> 02:25:53,460
David's getting quotes right now, but we're anticipating about 20,000, close to 20,000 with

1834
02:25:53,460 --> 02:25:56,440
installation to replace one of those ACs.

1835
02:25:56,440 --> 02:25:58,240
but we had it programmed in your capital

1836
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:01,320
or took it out of your capital because that one,

1837
02:26:01,440 --> 02:26:03,700
they have to think a total of six ACs is the library.

1838
02:26:04,580 --> 02:26:06,280
So it's one of them, but it's one of their older ones.

1839
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:08,380
So that will come out of the capital.

1840
02:26:08,440 --> 02:26:10,280
I will come out of the capital for this year.

1841
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:16,320
Unless, I don't know, magic returns back on.

1842
02:26:16,620 --> 02:26:19,000
But it's okay, it's a little warm over there.

1843
02:26:19,060 --> 02:26:21,280
I mean, it's a little warm over there

1844
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:23,460
and it's causing the other ACs to work harder

1845
02:26:23,460 --> 02:26:26,400
than they need to, but we'll try to get it

1846
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:32,480
place as soon as possible. Yeah. Good. Um, we don't want to get into this late summer months.

1847
02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:37,220
That's right. That's right. The library. So the library is sitting pretty good. We had a couple

1848
02:26:37,220 --> 02:26:44,220
of increases so they are going up a little bit. We try really hard right now not to hit the library

1849
02:26:44,220 --> 02:26:49,360
or anything to do with the library. They've done excellent this year in applying for grants and

1850
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:53,500
getting recommended for funding. Now whether or not we get the funding. I think she's gotten one or

1851
02:26:53,500 --> 02:26:59,840
you so far this year, but Regina's probably one of the departments that does an excellent

1852
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:03,780
job of really kind of going after the money to support the program.

1853
02:27:04,100 --> 02:27:04,320
Thank you.

1854
02:27:04,900 --> 02:27:05,660
Thank you.

1855
02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:06,900
And how many employees?

1856
02:27:08,120 --> 02:27:08,560
Oh gosh.

1857
02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:09,120
Okay, hold on.

1858
02:27:09,140 --> 02:27:17,480
Because I know it's part-time and I have four full-time two part-time four full-time and two

1859
02:27:17,480 --> 02:27:17,920
part-time.

1860
02:27:18,900 --> 02:27:19,140
Thank you.

1861
02:27:19,360 --> 02:27:20,520
After while it starts to rush.

1862
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:21,460
Okay.

1863
02:27:21,460 --> 02:27:28,180
three parts. Yeah, dev, dev used to be like four hours a week. I don't know, we made her

1864
02:27:28,180 --> 02:27:35,820
She went to, she went to seven or 15 hours. What did yeah? Okay. We do have the

1865
02:27:36,260 --> 02:27:40,140
forine in your capital for the library if you've been in the children's wing. The

1866
02:27:40,140 --> 02:27:44,840
forine is awful. It does need to be, we've tried to clean it. It won't come up. It

1867
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:49,720
just looks bad. But also again, something that can wait another year if you want, if

1868
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:56,040
need it to wait. So that's 110. All right, moving on to your enterprise fund. Your

1869
02:27:56,040 --> 02:28:02,240
operating revenue is a sitting at 5.5 million. Your operating expenses are sitting at 4.9.

1870
02:28:03,280 --> 02:28:07,660
Your transfers out for your debt services is 104. Your person that was 1.3 and your

1871
02:28:07,660 --> 02:28:13,160
capital is 1.9. I'm going to go over your capital a little bit and see what you all want to

1872
02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:20,360
with that, and okay, well look at that. So your water cells are sitting at 2.2, your

1873
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:27,660
sewer cells are sitting at 2.5, and then your stormwater fees are sitting at about 554,000

1874
02:28:27,660 --> 02:28:29,260
as far as your revenue goes.

1875
02:28:31,540 --> 02:28:37,700
The biggest item here, more so, is your contractual. Again,

1876
02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:41,740
we really decreased your personnel. If you remember the mayor years ago, it used to be

1877
02:28:41,740 --> 02:28:42,920
really high on your personnel.

1878
02:28:43,040 --> 02:28:46,280
I'm as part of an initiative to remove personnel from your water fund.

1879
02:28:46,420 --> 02:28:47,160
That's really gone down.

1880
02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:50,680
And so the majority of what you're spending your money on is contractual and capital services.

1881
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:55,600
And this is just a breakdown of your expenses.

1882
02:28:56,180 --> 02:28:58,100
The majority of it is on your shoeer side.

1883
02:28:59,340 --> 02:29:00,360
This is a breakdown.

1884
02:29:00,700 --> 02:29:05,940
And so if you take a look at your operating revenues here, you have everything grouped in.

1885
02:29:05,980 --> 02:29:10,560
You have your water, your sewer, and your storm water, your storm water, yes it lives

1886
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:16,860
in your enterprise fund, but the revenues for that is separated out because storm water can only

1887
02:29:16,860 --> 02:29:24,400
be used for certain things. And so, but you have to, you have to look at the accounting

1888
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:29,740
as one lump sum and then kind of take out your storm water because the revenues can only

1889
02:29:29,740 --> 02:29:33,540
be used for certain things and I'll kind of go over what that looks like a little bit.

1890
02:29:33,540 --> 02:29:40,040
So after, excuse me, so is the increase in the water rates reflected here?

1891
02:29:41,440 --> 02:29:42,180
Sort of.

1892
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:42,880
Okay.

1893
02:29:42,880 --> 02:29:43,540
I think our.

1894
02:29:43,940 --> 02:29:48,560
So we took what the presentation was and what we paid the revenues are going to be.

1895
02:29:48,740 --> 02:29:51,040
And we have it reflected here.

1896
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:52,940
I am.

1897
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:55,100
You see an increase here.

1898
02:29:55,140 --> 02:29:55,560
Right.

1899
02:29:56,180 --> 02:29:57,900
And so we have that there.

1900
02:29:58,840 --> 02:29:59,960
But we don't.

1901
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,060
I don't know exactly what that's going to be until we get them in. Like I don't know how much water you're going to use next year. We make that the everybody makes an estimate.

1902
02:30:08,060 --> 02:30:11,780
This is only for the lay-on-value water customers. Correct.

1903
02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:13,600
Your inappropriate one is not-

1904
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:18,140
I understand. I just want to clarify that for the viewers or, yeah.

1905
02:30:18,560 --> 02:30:21,380
It does not include the sauce customers. Correct.

1906
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:24,300
And we're going to get a big increase in what I understand.

1907
02:30:24,380 --> 02:30:26,200
So yes, it's supposed to be, I think, 2005.

1908
02:30:26,200 --> 02:30:32,700
Well, I heard 33 over three years or I mean, I've seen by the time it gets your council, it may change a little bit.

1909
02:30:32,780 --> 02:30:36,000
I know like what we went through the conversation we went through, so that may be adjusted.

1910
02:30:36,220 --> 02:30:44,880
But then again, you know, kind of what I said earlier, the big topic was to keep Leon Valley water customers, the same as saws customers, so there wasn't confusion.

1911
02:30:45,440 --> 02:30:48,100
And so do you want to go back and take a look at that?

1912
02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:55,900
So, after you take a look at your fixed assets, we really kind of went through your water

1913
02:30:55,900 --> 02:30:56,340
fund.

1914
02:30:56,780 --> 02:31:01,720
I still want to take a deeper dive in your water fund a little bit as far as some detail

1915
02:31:02,660 --> 02:31:07,860
stuff, but you're sitting with an Indian fund balance of 921,000.

1916
02:31:08,300 --> 02:31:11,320
And I'll kind of go over that a little bit.

1917
02:31:12,990 --> 02:31:18,310
Your operating revenues is about 5 million, your expenses are a little over 4 million.

1918
02:31:18,310 --> 02:31:26,350
You're having about a $500,000 increase, but then we're looking at spending your water

1919
02:31:26,350 --> 02:31:31,670
capital and your sugar capital and your storm water is separate and if we spend the

1920
02:31:31,670 --> 02:31:37,370
800,000 in your capital in order to do the erosion program, you'd be negative $77,000.

1921
02:31:38,110 --> 02:31:41,690
So we can offset that and decrease that but then you would zero out your storm water account.

1922
02:31:41,690 --> 02:32:00,480
And so we've already spent in the plan options a little bit of money in this fund and so it is more of a conversation of how much more you want to continue to spend in order to get the plan that you want.

1923
02:32:00,480 --> 02:32:05,380
We do have one more meeting, and now we're looking at one more option with the retaining,

1924
02:32:05,380 --> 02:32:10,260
I think it's the retaining option, which our Dura is already kind of got prepped for that.

1925
02:32:10,320 --> 02:32:12,940
And so it's just a conversation of what plan you want to pick.

1926
02:32:13,140 --> 02:32:15,960
And then this isn't cover the construction cost.

1927
02:32:15,980 --> 02:32:19,200
This was just the contract you have with our Dura for the engineering piece.

1928
02:32:19,520 --> 02:32:22,680
So once you pick a plan, they can do the engineering portion of it.

1929
02:32:23,260 --> 02:32:27,760
They are contract when we went out was initially 800,000 for the engineering.

1930
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:55,160
And so y'all have diverted from the original acceptance of that original contract because the original contract was for option one they were moving forward with that then I halted that project because it was going to take out too many trees and so since then we've spent money on that $800,000 contract with additional options but that $800,000 contract was originally set for option the first option that was voted on.

1931
02:32:55,160 --> 02:33:02,280
So if you spend all 800 or if you decrease that, then you won't sit in a negative bond.

1932
02:33:02,420 --> 02:33:06,060
So we have to have a conversation of what you want to do with that.

1933
02:33:06,200 --> 02:33:07,800
I get that that's the number one priority.

1934
02:33:08,660 --> 02:33:10,620
I do think you need to come up with a solution.

1935
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:15,480
I just don't know if it's going to be the full engineering services

1936
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:19,160
and I need to have a conversation with our bureau what that looks like when you finally pick up.

1937
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:23,580
Once you'll pick a plan, then I'll have a better idea of how much that will cost.

1938
02:33:25,550 --> 02:33:31,950
This is just your water breakdown, this is your expenses, your expenses sitting at about 1.8.

1939
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:39,290
And your big thing here is your capital outlet, we have 140,000 sitting in water rights and 500,000 sitting in improvements.

1940
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:46,550
And I'm going to go through all of these and I'm going to explain a little bit about what my attempt is to do with your water department or your enterprise fund.

1941
02:33:47,430 --> 02:33:48,550
This is just the breakdown.

1942
02:33:48,550 --> 02:33:56,270
This is, you can see, we've made, excuse me, yes, Councillor, compass.

1943
02:33:56,890 --> 02:34:03,130
So in looking at the water and sewer, it looks like some of our expenses are going up

1944
02:34:03,130 --> 02:34:04,670
that are outside of our control.

1945
02:34:05,350 --> 02:34:13,310
So like this EAA program management fees, typically I think it's a pass through on the water

1946
02:34:13,310 --> 02:34:13,690
bill.

1947
02:34:14,070 --> 02:34:17,030
So did we increase our revenue to offset this?

1948
02:34:17,030 --> 02:34:19,450
Yeah, I think we have to go back and look.

1949
02:34:19,530 --> 02:34:21,630
I don't know, I don't know.

1950
02:34:21,670 --> 02:34:28,030
And then later on, I see it in the sewer where there's a big increase in the sewer and

1951
02:34:28,030 --> 02:34:31,070
are we passing that increase cost?

1952
02:34:31,290 --> 02:34:32,250
On to the revenue set.

1953
02:34:32,330 --> 02:34:33,810
I have to look at the original calculations.

1954
02:34:34,390 --> 02:34:40,650
So what essentially we did was anything that went up that are required for program fee management

1955
02:34:41,230 --> 02:34:45,550
stuff, water worth had a scheduled program for us.

1956
02:34:45,550 --> 02:34:49,010
like we go up here and your revenues go up there.

1957
02:34:49,690 --> 02:34:52,570
And so it should be included, but I don't want to speak wrong and give you wrong information

1958
02:34:52,570 --> 02:34:55,890
so I need to get the breakdown, I have that on another spreadsheet, I'll get the breakdown

1959
02:34:55,890 --> 02:35:00,910
and make sure that that was in fact indicated on that sheet because I don't want to tell you

1960
02:35:00,910 --> 02:35:01,510
wrong.

1961
02:35:02,370 --> 02:35:09,330
Yes, but in looking at and looking at your water department, we have decreased a lot of the

1962
02:35:09,330 --> 02:35:13,130
items are kept everything the same for the most part in your contractual and your professional

1963
02:35:13,130 --> 02:35:20,690
services. You'll see little to no increase. A fuel has gone up a little bit, but for the most part

1964
02:35:20,690 --> 02:35:23,590
you're sitting okay.

1965
02:35:26,170 --> 02:35:31,170
Now the water rights and your capital essentially what has happened,

1966
02:35:31,550 --> 02:35:38,670
let me do what I said I was going to do. We have 140 and 500,000. This is your sewer. Are you also

1967
02:35:38,670 --> 02:35:42,130
have capital of 500,000 sitting over there.

1968
02:35:43,310 --> 02:35:51,290
Your sewer department, this is the variance from last year, and again, we have 500,000 sitting

1969
02:35:51,290 --> 02:35:51,570
over it.

1970
02:35:51,590 --> 02:35:52,850
And this is your storm water,

1971
02:35:55,580 --> 02:35:59,820
and we have the $800,000 erosion project, but I want to

1972
02:35:59,820 --> 02:36:00,300
go back.

1973
02:36:01,540 --> 02:36:07,580
So essentially what I'm looking at doing for both your water and sewer in your capital,

1974
02:36:07,700 --> 02:36:08,920
what you ended up doing,

1975
02:36:13,940 --> 02:36:14,420
go back.

1976
02:36:15,580 --> 02:36:18,280
you're estimated. Where's it at? Where's

1977
02:36:20,330 --> 02:36:22,490
the one point four? There it is.

1978
02:36:22,870 --> 02:36:31,030
Yeah, we're here. So you have your the grant amount that hasn't been for

1979
02:36:31,030 --> 02:36:35,610
cammingway. We have to pay all of that upfront. We haven't gone that route. We

1980
02:36:35,610 --> 02:36:43,270
haven't received from the county. C to B j. Correct. Okay. So that will, we'll

1981
02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:48,910
Hopefully we get that back in sitting in your account, but we have to expend it all.

1982
02:36:50,190 --> 02:36:55,850
We don't have a separate grant line item here, and so it does make it look funky.

1983
02:36:56,390 --> 02:36:57,450
I get it.

1984
02:36:57,630 --> 02:37:00,150
It's something that needs to be kind of fixed.

1985
02:37:00,630 --> 02:37:04,910
The other thing is, but this is just kind of the way you've been doing it, and so it's

1986
02:37:04,910 --> 02:37:06,590
one of the things we're working on on our side.

1987
02:37:06,950 --> 02:37:11,690
One of the big reasons I haven't touched this is because I'm having David and part of our

1988
02:37:11,690 --> 02:37:20,930
conversations is put together all of your water, all of your sewer replacement and as we get to the street maintenance, all of your street maintenance.

1989
02:37:21,710 --> 02:37:31,830
And so essentially what I'm going to do is have you all approve a plan that coincide in overlap on how you want to handle your street maintenance, your water and sewer.

1990
02:37:32,330 --> 02:37:35,550
You've also done a lot of budget adjustments in the last year.

1991
02:37:35,550 --> 02:37:38,870
So we were budgeting 500,000 and 100,000,

1992
02:37:38,890 --> 02:37:40,790
but your bids for some of these water projects

1993
02:37:40,790 --> 02:37:44,530
came in at 720, 800, 800,000,

1994
02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:47,190
for some of the initial priority one projects.

1995
02:37:47,250 --> 02:37:48,830
So you've had a lot of budget adjustments.

1996
02:37:49,010 --> 02:37:51,310
So your reserve fund for both of those accounts

1997
02:37:51,310 --> 02:37:52,830
have also come down.

1998
02:37:53,270 --> 02:37:55,550
We will expect to get this money back

1999
02:37:55,550 --> 02:38:00,710
and we're gonna figure out how to kind of show that a little bit.

2000
02:38:01,930 --> 02:38:08,570
So it's the counting pieces a little bit better, my big, so that portion, hopefully, will

2001
02:38:08,570 --> 02:38:09,750
roll back into here.

2002
02:38:10,670 --> 02:38:14,990
But I also don't think that amount is enough to be sitting in your reserve for the projects

2003
02:38:14,990 --> 02:38:17,490
you have coming or that we're kind of anticipating.

2004
02:38:18,650 --> 02:38:23,770
Now we've applied, we're getting ready to apply Texas development water board, all of that.

2005
02:38:24,210 --> 02:38:29,450
And so then the second conversation on your water fund is going to be whether or not to go

2006
02:38:29,450 --> 02:38:34,190
for a bond initiative in order to start getting some of those projects done if we fail to get the

2007
02:38:34,190 --> 02:38:40,590
grant or get any funds from that. But I wanted to kind of start the conversation on the

2008
02:38:40,590 --> 02:38:46,190
enterprise fund. You have the other 500,000 and the other sitting in your sewer fund. I'll

2009
02:38:46,190 --> 02:38:51,810
probably recommend that. You can leave it there, but we probably won't spend it. And the reason

2010
02:38:51,810 --> 02:38:56,770
we won't spend it is until we can get a handle on the plan you want. I don't want to willy

2011
02:38:57,650 --> 02:39:06,010
And this is the next set of priorities for your sewer or your next set of priorities for your water without it having y'all prove your street maintenance.

2012
02:39:06,510 --> 02:39:11,370
And so David's working on a really cool spreadsheet of senior draft of it and he's going to give you two options.

2013
02:39:11,610 --> 02:39:12,810
And we're going to present that to you.

2014
02:39:12,890 --> 02:39:14,850
You're going to accept how we're going to handle that.

2015
02:39:15,110 --> 02:39:17,330
And then next year when we come in FY28,

2016
02:39:18,030 --> 02:39:26,690
We will no longer see, hoping, 500,000 for water projects and 500,000 for sewer, they will

2017
02:39:26,690 --> 02:39:27,550
be by name.

2018
02:39:28,110 --> 02:39:31,890
So every year for as long as you've been here mayor, we've always just said 500,000 for

2019
02:39:31,890 --> 02:39:33,950
water, but a hundred and forty for water rights.

2020
02:39:34,210 --> 02:39:35,510
It will be specific.

2021
02:39:36,050 --> 02:39:36,090
Okay.

2022
02:39:36,090 --> 02:39:40,930
If you've never had that here before, we're trying to drill down so you know exactly what

2023
02:39:40,930 --> 02:39:43,330
you're paying for in those water improvements.

2024
02:39:44,110 --> 02:39:50,550
My only reason for keeping the money in here like this, my fear is we've been having a lot of water

2025
02:39:50,550 --> 02:39:56,170
main breaks, you have aging infrastructure, and so it allows us to do those repairs as they

2026
02:39:56,170 --> 02:39:56,470
break.

2027
02:39:56,990 --> 02:40:02,610
If you had a really big break, we've had one on Bander a couple of years ago, that was 1.2

2028
02:40:02,610 --> 02:40:02,870
mill.

2029
02:40:03,790 --> 02:40:08,130
You don't have the money to be able to cut, we would have to take money from your general

2030
02:40:08,130 --> 02:40:09,610
funding in order to cover that cost.

2031
02:40:10,910 --> 02:40:16,590
So I get that, you see the 1.4, we'll have a conversation about that, and so I wanted

2032
02:40:16,590 --> 02:40:22,170
to point it out so you're not thinking we forgot or we didn't do something, but I really

2033
02:40:22,170 --> 02:40:28,150
want to drill down onto what these improvements actually are.

2034
02:40:28,610 --> 02:40:34,990
And so you're not just budgeting 500,000 for no reason, it will be tied to a specific project

2035
02:40:35,430 --> 02:40:38,390
is the goal, which you've never done in your enterprise fund before.

2036
02:40:39,170 --> 02:40:42,090
So I'm trying to get there, it's just with Melinda Levy,

2037
02:40:42,170 --> 02:40:44,210
and that was a goal that we were trying to get to,

2038
02:40:44,270 --> 02:40:48,170
and so it's just taking me a little bit of time to do that with you all.

2039
02:40:49,210 --> 02:40:52,790
You're okay, if you all prove this budget, you're okay in your enterprise fund,

2040
02:40:53,850 --> 02:40:55,590
except you have to figure out your stormwater.

2041
02:40:55,810 --> 02:40:58,590
So if you prove the budget as is, right now you'd be fine,

2042
02:40:59,110 --> 02:41:01,730
we'll reflect the grant, but you'll be okay.

2043
02:41:01,910 --> 02:41:04,370
My concern is more on your stormwater piece,

2044
02:41:04,370 --> 02:41:07,950
and so we need to figure out what that's going to look like and we can have that conversation

2045
02:41:07,950 --> 02:41:08,490
on Saturday.

2046
02:41:08,930 --> 02:41:14,850
But I wanted to make those points to you that, you know, we're working on this budget.

2047
02:41:14,970 --> 02:41:18,870
I want it to almost look like you're current control budget by itself, kind of breaking it

2048
02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:23,950
down with very detailed projects and what that looks like in real cost because we know

2049
02:41:23,950 --> 02:41:26,290
$500,000 is going to pay for very much.

2050
02:41:26,550 --> 02:41:30,850
I know we're budgeting 140 for the water rights and I thought that's what we have budgeted

2051
02:41:30,850 --> 02:41:36,810
every year before, and I was just curious why did it come in at 188, 738.

2052
02:41:37,250 --> 02:41:39,310
So last year we did a budget adjustment.

2053
02:41:40,970 --> 02:41:43,010
And so it just came in, that's what it came in higher.

2054
02:41:43,530 --> 02:41:44,010
Okay, got you.

2055
02:41:44,010 --> 02:41:47,510
So you all budget 140, so we just don't have a problem.

2056
02:41:47,670 --> 02:41:48,530
So we'll budget adjustments.

2057
02:41:48,970 --> 02:41:54,950
Yeah, so if you, the way you run your enterprise fund is budget adjustment heavy, which

2058
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:59,950
is not something I am comfortable with, you've done it that way forever and ever, I have

2059
02:41:59,950 --> 02:42:04,830
been focused the last five years in getting your general fund and your crime, like the red

2060
02:42:04,830 --> 02:42:10,470
light camera, all of those other funds in my opinion were done with a whole lot of faith.

2061
02:42:10,730 --> 02:42:16,170
We're all done like this. I call it faith, like there's no detail, there's not a whole lot of

2062
02:42:16,170 --> 02:42:21,230
explanation and to over the last five years, I've essentially kind of gone to zero-based,

2063
02:42:22,490 --> 02:42:26,970
without zero-based budget, but going back to zero-based budgeting and trying to break down and get

2064
02:42:26,970 --> 02:42:31,630
of all the what I call excess fat in all your accounts. So if you go back and you take a look at all

2065
02:42:31,630 --> 02:42:36,510
your contractional professional services over the last five years, you could see where we've

2066
02:42:37,450 --> 02:42:44,310
continuously gone down in the majority of our accounts with little to no increases because we call it

2067
02:42:44,310 --> 02:42:49,710
trimming the fat off of those accounts because we basically have broken down to detail. I've really

2068
02:42:49,710 --> 02:42:54,670
focused on those accounts. This year was my big focus was getting your crime control section

2069
02:42:54,670 --> 02:42:56,310
and then Carol has worked on that.

2070
02:42:56,850 --> 02:42:58,650
We're going to drill down your enterprise fund

2071
02:42:58,650 --> 02:43:01,270
a little bit more as we move through this budget cycle.

2072
02:43:01,650 --> 02:43:03,110
But next year, I'm hoping for y'all

2073
02:43:03,110 --> 02:43:05,170
to see a completely different enterprise fund budget.

2074
02:43:05,970 --> 02:43:08,710
So that's what we're looking at.

2075
02:43:09,110 --> 02:43:10,370
So I'm just, thank you.

2076
02:43:11,110 --> 02:43:15,010
So I just wanted to explain that to you and all of the things.

2077
02:43:16,130 --> 02:43:18,650
OK, so moving on to your red light camera fund.

2078
02:43:19,730 --> 02:43:22,210
So first thing that comes up is your revenues.

2079
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:30,910
We are tracking a little bit better than we were last year, so I do have a little bit of an

2080
02:43:30,910 --> 02:43:31,630
increase there.

2081
02:43:31,770 --> 02:43:33,510
We'll kind of see how we're going throughout the year.

2082
02:43:33,750 --> 02:43:41,190
That was my question when I saw that is why did we go up when our tickets and what Charles

2083
02:43:41,190 --> 02:43:44,870
been given us between what we've issued and what's been paid has been down.

2084
02:43:45,270 --> 02:43:46,690
So why would we not?

2085
02:43:46,690 --> 02:43:48,330
For this fiscal year has not.

2086
02:43:48,330 --> 02:43:58,030
So if you pull up the last, so you'll see in the next month's finance, even last year's financials, pull it up, you're tracking higher and you're last monthly financials for your red light camera.

2087
02:43:59,650 --> 02:44:00,850
So that's just the trend.

2088
02:44:02,030 --> 02:44:07,530
So again, as we move through the year, if I start seeing a decrease, I'll decrease that dollar amount.

2089
02:44:11,490 --> 02:44:17,710
And so your ending fun balance in your red light camera is sitting at 498,000.

2090
02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:21,860
These are your personnel.

2091
02:44:22,080 --> 02:44:25,640
So you're going to look at your personnel and you're saying, well, where are the two people?

2092
02:44:25,860 --> 02:44:26,420
Why aren't we?

2093
02:44:26,420 --> 02:44:30,360
I thought you moved them into the general fund that you had your red light camera broken up

2094
02:44:30,360 --> 02:44:31,100
into two funds.

2095
02:44:31,240 --> 02:44:33,640
Your red light camera and your traffic safety fund.

2096
02:44:34,920 --> 02:44:38,200
And so we just eliminated your traffic safety fund that was funded by your red light

2097
02:44:38,200 --> 02:44:41,340
cameras and took those two police officers and moved them over.

2098
02:44:43,760 --> 02:44:54,420
So, so you'll see that there's an increase and you're going to, you know, so I wanted to clarify that it's your traffic safety officers tracking with me.

2099
02:44:54,760 --> 02:44:58,100
Yeah, okay, we had four.

2100
02:44:58,300 --> 02:44:59,000
You had eight.

2101
02:44:59,420 --> 02:44:59,980
Yeah, total eight.

2102
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:27,060
Any red light camera? Go ahead. Two, that process. Well, two, you have paid total personnel sitting in, you actually have 10 full time people in your red light camera, technically, because you have two court personnel that are paid 100% out of your red light camera that you're also going to have to figure out. But from a police officer standpoint, you had eight taken two out and moved them to general fund, you were down to six officers.

2103
02:45:27,540 --> 02:45:32,620
When we get to the percentage, I will go over what that looks like for y'all, but for

2104
02:45:32,620 --> 02:45:34,720
right now, you had eight.

2105
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:41,740
Two of them, as part of your red light camera, lived in what was called a traffic safety component,

2106
02:45:42,880 --> 02:45:45,380
just for bud, just to make it look clean.

2107
02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:50,100
I just took the two from your traffic safety, those two, and put them in your general fund.

2108
02:45:50,300 --> 02:45:52,940
But they are funded a hundred percent out of your red light camera.

2109
02:45:53,140 --> 02:45:56,140
So you had eight, we took two, and so that one.

2110
02:45:56,140 --> 02:46:01,120
So you're not seeing the traffic safety fund anymore, you're just seeing the red light camera.

2111
02:46:01,240 --> 02:46:02,640
Was that that tier 2?

2112
02:46:03,060 --> 02:46:05,740
Yes, it's tier 1 and tier 2 and all that.

2113
02:46:05,920 --> 02:46:06,880
But that was taking that out.

2114
02:46:06,980 --> 02:46:07,140
Correct.

2115
02:46:07,260 --> 02:46:09,240
It was just the easier component.

2116
02:46:09,240 --> 02:46:13,580
You still have traffic stuff because it's an operating traffic stuff, but you don't have

2117
02:46:13,580 --> 02:46:19,420
personnel taking those two patrol and move them over into your general fund.

2118
02:46:20,160 --> 02:46:23,500
So we've taken two from red light camera, moved it over to your general fund.

2119
02:46:23,500 --> 02:46:26,980
I took two of your code and moved them into your EDCD fund.

2120
02:46:27,780 --> 02:46:28,340
Tracking?

2121
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:29,560
OK, OK.

2122
02:46:30,280 --> 02:46:32,100
So that's how this looks.

2123
02:46:33,980 --> 02:46:35,240
This is just the breakdown.

2124
02:46:37,680 --> 02:46:40,220
This is your traffic safety seat, no personnel.

2125
02:46:42,430 --> 02:46:44,970
Those are the two people that got shipped out.

2126
02:46:47,080 --> 02:46:53,300
This is the breakdown of your red light camera fun,

2127
02:46:55,830 --> 02:47:02,510
68,000 for patrol vehicle and that's kind of all we have coming out of your

2128
02:47:02,510 --> 02:47:09,250
reserve fund and I'm kind of watching that a little bit because we I'm worried

2129
02:47:09,250 --> 02:47:14,370
that if you don't make it by 2037 to cover everybody it could buy you a year or

2130
02:47:14,370 --> 02:47:20,330
two if you needed to do that or if you if this year you don't like say I'm wrong

2131
02:47:20,330 --> 02:47:23,430
and you don't have an increase you'll be able to use what's remaining in the

2132
02:47:23,430 --> 02:47:32,910
to cover that offset. You had to do it last year. This year you're tracking better, and so I'm

2133
02:47:32,910 --> 02:47:40,030
just seeing a little bit of an increase, so we're trending that way, so I'm going to leave it

2134
02:47:40,030 --> 02:47:44,710
that way, but as we move through the year, if I start seeing the dip, then I'll make the set adjustment.

2135
02:47:46,230 --> 02:47:50,050
And then you ready when over your crime control, so I'm not going to really go through that too much,

2136
02:47:50,050 --> 02:47:57,830
But you do have 73,000 for your vehicle, the other 50 further flock, and then the other 100,000 for your property room.

2137
02:47:58,050 --> 02:48:02,150
Your community center fund, operating revenue is 100, your expenditures is 100,

2138
02:48:04,170 --> 02:48:10,490
this is your hotel motel tax, a little bit of your personnel, some supplies and contractual.

2139
02:48:11,530 --> 02:48:17,290
We do I think have enough money to do your restrooms if you want to finally do that in your conference center.

2140
02:48:17,290 --> 02:48:24,490
It will leave you with the ending from balance of 182, which is not great, but it's also not horrible either.

2141
02:48:24,770 --> 02:48:26,250
I'm sorry.

2142
02:48:27,250 --> 02:48:30,370
I thought you were going to move the 85, too.

2143
02:48:31,310 --> 02:48:31,390
No.

2144
02:48:31,510 --> 02:48:32,530
You're rental fees.

2145
02:48:32,850 --> 02:48:33,870
This rental fee here?

2146
02:48:33,930 --> 02:48:34,550
See how zero?

2147
02:48:35,170 --> 02:48:35,590
Oh, okay.

2148
02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:36,570
It's not the hotel motel.

2149
02:48:37,110 --> 02:48:37,870
I can't.

2150
02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:39,090
Your hotel motel tax.

2151
02:48:39,090 --> 02:48:39,950
I see a law.

2152
02:48:40,330 --> 02:48:40,490
I see a law.

2153
02:48:40,570 --> 02:48:40,930
I see a law.

2154
02:48:40,930 --> 02:48:41,170
I see a law.

2155
02:48:41,790 --> 02:48:45,290
I see a law.

2156
02:48:45,290 --> 02:48:51,550
the convention and then the rental fees is short-term rental and no. Your rental fees is how much

2157
02:48:51,550 --> 02:48:55,470
you are at 30 degrees in your subred center. Yeah, our centers, that's right. So when you went

2158
02:48:55,470 --> 02:49:01,230
them out for weddings, we took that money and we moved it over your new DDC in order to support the

2159
02:49:01,230 --> 02:49:07,530
move. I thought I saw a short-term rental in your revenue side of things because when Mr. Martinez

2160
02:49:07,530 --> 02:49:12,930
was here, he wanted to break down your hotel motel. Okay, I thought I'd say so. So that's part of your

2161
02:49:12,930 --> 02:49:15,670
Holds home, also tax when you see your monthly financials,

2162
02:49:15,690 --> 02:49:18,310
you break down your whole total tax to show.

2163
02:49:18,490 --> 02:49:20,670
So in that 85,000, there's a portion of that,

2164
02:49:20,770 --> 02:49:22,150
that's short term, okay, catch it.

2165
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:24,330
But that's also kind of going down a little bit too.

2166
02:49:25,930 --> 02:49:33,210
But we do for your capital have the 160,000 sitting over there

2167
02:49:33,210 --> 02:49:34,770
for the restrooms.

2168
02:49:34,930 --> 02:49:38,090
And again, you would leave yourself with an Indian fund balance

2169
02:49:38,090 --> 02:49:41,450
of 182, that 182, I mean, if you had something

2170
02:49:41,450 --> 02:49:47,890
go wrong with your roof or an AC go out like that's a little low a little more than what

2171
02:49:47,890 --> 02:49:54,370
I'm comfortable with but you also don't have anything major from an infrastructure standpoint

2172
02:49:54,370 --> 02:50:04,140
over there right now so it may be a good time to do the restrooms your street maintenance

2173
02:50:04,140 --> 02:50:09,860
fund again we're zeroing out this is the other one again that I want to tie to specific projects

2174
02:50:09,860 --> 02:50:12,340
And so we always zero this account out.

2175
02:50:12,480 --> 02:50:13,260
It's all your street maintenance.

2176
02:50:13,400 --> 02:50:15,740
You can only use this money for street maintenance.

2177
02:50:15,980 --> 02:50:18,740
And so we always attempt to do as many streets as we possibly can

2178
02:50:18,740 --> 02:50:19,640
throughout the year.

2179
02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:20,840
So we budget it all.

2180
02:50:21,200 --> 02:50:23,840
I want to make, and this is the way you've always gotten your budget.

2181
02:50:24,500 --> 02:50:27,300
I'm trying to give you more detail and tell you,

2182
02:50:27,340 --> 02:50:29,380
this is exactly what we're going to do next year.

2183
02:50:29,960 --> 02:50:31,860
Are these of the streets we want to do next year?

2184
02:50:32,160 --> 02:50:35,360
And that will come with the plan later on.

2185
02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:38,920
But we can't use that for the Lengthwood street, right?

2186
02:50:38,920 --> 02:50:41,560
because that's a recap structure, it's all right.

2187
02:50:42,400 --> 02:50:44,300
These are just your special revenue funds.

2188
02:50:45,360 --> 02:50:47,480
The big one, and so I'm going to put my caveat in.

2189
02:50:47,580 --> 02:50:48,940
I'm looking for a school crossing guard.

2190
02:50:50,140 --> 02:50:53,680
So we have been unable to fulfill a school crossing guard position.

2191
02:50:53,960 --> 02:50:56,160
And so you're seeing that kind of ending from moments,

2192
02:50:56,200 --> 02:50:57,460
go up a little bit.

2193
02:50:57,920 --> 02:51:00,000
So if you know anybody that would like to be a school crossing guard,

2194
02:51:00,040 --> 02:51:02,720
please have them reach out to Lisa Hernandez on herself.

2195
02:51:03,420 --> 02:51:06,620
Humanistical court technology, this will go down.

2196
02:51:06,660 --> 02:51:08,400
We use this for your ticket writers.

2197
02:51:08,400 --> 02:51:16,360
I haven't touched this one because we're getting ready to transfer over to trusted driver, and so there may be a little bit an overlap.

2198
02:51:17,320 --> 02:51:21,580
From the ticket writer model to cell phone.

2199
02:51:22,100 --> 02:51:25,360
And so I don't want to touch it, and you can touch it probably next year.

2200
02:51:25,580 --> 02:51:28,600
I just want to make sure we're fully transferred over and what that looks like.

2201
02:51:29,580 --> 02:51:31,620
And then your debt service and your police for for your fund.

2202
02:51:34,840 --> 02:51:39,240
You're personnel, so I just want to, I know I put in here market rates and somebody asked me,

2203
02:51:39,320 --> 02:51:40,360
it's not market rates.

2204
02:51:40,740 --> 02:51:45,880
Y'all adopted a salary scale last year and so all it does is taking the employee that's been

2205
02:51:45,880 --> 02:51:51,660
here a year, they go up 2% for year 2% for year 3 and so somebody that's been here 10 years.

2206
02:51:51,740 --> 02:51:58,160
So I have a total of 14 people that would not be considered for a market adjustment because

2207
02:51:58,160 --> 02:52:05,880
either maxed out or on probation. So you have roughly out of the 118 or 118, 10 employees,

2208
02:52:06,320 --> 02:52:12,340
you'll have 14 that don't qualify to move up a step because they've maxed out on their

2209
02:52:12,340 --> 02:52:20,420
system. Now, I also, as part of the conversation, we have 2% cola programmed in on top of the

2210
02:52:20,420 --> 02:52:25,360
2% adjustment. So as part of the 610 deficit, we need to have a conversation of whether or not

2211
02:52:25,360 --> 02:52:26,880
you all want to do a cost of living.

2212
02:52:27,440 --> 02:52:30,580
Your CPI's running, so you don't have it here.

2213
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:33,280
Listed, or is that part, it's just a market.

2214
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:35,700
So, so 4% then.

2215
02:52:35,700 --> 02:52:38,040
So, not, but not for everybody, but not for everybody,

2216
02:52:38,200 --> 02:52:40,820
but possibly 4% okay, I catch you.

2217
02:52:41,360 --> 02:52:43,160
And so, and then I have your directors

2218
02:52:43,160 --> 02:52:45,640
and we'll have that conversation of what that looks like.

2219
02:52:45,780 --> 02:52:49,240
We don't do market, we don't do coales or they're not

2220
02:52:49,240 --> 02:52:51,100
on the salary scale, they're handled separately,

2221
02:52:51,220 --> 02:52:52,400
they're based on their position.

2222
02:52:52,540 --> 02:52:53,960
And so we'll go over those on Saturday,

2223
02:52:53,960 --> 02:52:59,080
have that for y'all. Your longevity pay, I sent y'all that policy, it depends on how long you've been

2224
02:52:59,080 --> 02:53:04,240
here and what you qualify for and it's a dollar amount for every month of service that you've

2225
02:53:04,240 --> 02:53:10,180
been with the city. We are required by law to pay longevity for your police and fire, but we've always

2226
02:53:10,180 --> 02:53:14,720
included all the employees as far as longevity, that's a way to reward your long-term employees

2227
02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:23,940
for being here and we do pay it out in November and that's just a traditional thing. We start it

2228
02:53:23,940 --> 02:53:31,480
And so it started off as that and it was one check and it was done before the Friday before Thanksgiving.

2229
02:53:32,180 --> 02:53:38,640
And so it's been that way for as long as I've been here so we just continue in that method.

2230
02:53:39,540 --> 02:53:45,640
The other thing that's programmed in that $610,000 deficit is a 15% increase in your health insurance.

2231
02:53:46,160 --> 02:53:51,460
That is a substantial portion of your chunk.

2232
02:53:52,220 --> 02:53:55,340
But I don't know what the health insurance looks like.

2233
02:53:55,480 --> 02:53:56,860
So these are a lot of the unknowns.

2234
02:53:57,500 --> 02:54:01,020
I do have a 1% program to infer your TMS as well.

2235
02:54:01,160 --> 02:54:04,020
We don't know what that looks like as well as 8%

2236
02:54:04,020 --> 02:54:07,480
8% or 9% for your workers' comp is also seen in it.

2237
02:54:07,660 --> 02:54:08,780
These are unknown factors.

2238
02:54:09,080 --> 02:54:13,240
So we budget based on utilization and what your health insurance

2239
02:54:13,240 --> 02:54:15,540
is looking like where I think you'll be.

2240
02:54:16,240 --> 02:54:18,680
Health insurance has been a little bit trickier

2241
02:54:18,680 --> 02:54:24,600
over the last couple of years, what was our increase last year?

2242
02:54:25,040 --> 02:54:27,260
Us, it came down.

2243
02:54:27,320 --> 02:54:29,040
One of the things was 13, 13.

2244
02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:31,960
We had to switch to, it was going to be 24 or something.

2245
02:54:32,440 --> 02:54:35,540
We switched to United and I think it was like 13 per say.

2246
02:54:37,400 --> 02:54:40,720
You're looking okay as far as your utilization goes.

2247
02:54:42,660 --> 02:54:46,840
So, it's just kind of the cost of health care in general.

2248
02:54:46,840 --> 02:54:48,400
Everybody's facing the same problem.

2249
02:54:48,820 --> 02:54:53,380
All cities are, and so as far as like the cost of living,

2250
02:54:54,060 --> 02:54:56,800
goes the CPI's hitting close to four percent.

2251
02:54:56,860 --> 02:54:58,840
So some cities are budgeting four.

2252
02:54:59,060 --> 02:55:01,620
I'm looking at it as it, like you have a salary scale,

2253
02:55:01,680 --> 02:55:04,560
so that's two percent, and then two percent on cost of living.

2254
02:55:05,520 --> 02:55:08,260
So then you would be looking at four in some cases.

2255
02:55:09,560 --> 02:55:12,100
But again, that's a conversation that we need to have

2256
02:55:12,100 --> 02:55:15,880
as a body and as we kind of move through what that looks like.

2257
02:55:15,880 --> 02:55:17,760
Yes, Councillor Compas.

2258
02:55:18,340 --> 02:55:21,800
To, is there a way you can put a dollar amount for us?

2259
02:55:21,940 --> 02:55:23,000
I have that for you.

2260
02:55:23,040 --> 02:55:24,660
I'm just not going to put it here, but I have it for you.

2261
02:55:24,660 --> 02:55:25,020
Okay.

2262
02:55:25,480 --> 02:55:25,660
Yeah.

2263
02:55:25,980 --> 02:55:26,240
The great.

2264
02:55:26,740 --> 02:55:31,420
Because that way you understand what the 15% equates to in total dollars.

2265
02:55:32,940 --> 02:55:33,080
Yeah.

2266
02:55:33,300 --> 02:55:34,020
I have it for you.

2267
02:55:34,020 --> 02:55:34,800
Thank you.

2268
02:55:35,280 --> 02:55:39,360
And we don't get that number till what end of August or mid August.

2269
02:55:39,900 --> 02:55:40,000
Yeah.

2270
02:55:40,620 --> 02:55:42,600
So I'm working, I'm not.

2271
02:55:42,700 --> 02:55:44,620
But Lisa's working with Matt and

2272
02:55:44,620 --> 02:55:47,800
trying to really drill down what that's going to look like.

2273
02:55:48,840 --> 02:55:50,740
We have a lot of variations, right?

2274
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:52,320
So if we keep the health insurance,

2275
02:55:52,460 --> 02:55:53,960
I can increase the deductible.

2276
02:55:54,520 --> 02:55:56,240
Like, there's stuff you can do in order to keep them

2277
02:55:56,240 --> 02:55:59,600
around. I'm trying really hard to make sure your benefits

2278
02:55:59,600 --> 02:56:04,820
and your salaries and your staffing levels match what you need.

2279
02:56:04,960 --> 02:56:07,500
If you start cutting on the benefit side of things,

2280
02:56:07,960 --> 02:56:10,820
then we can't recruit or you're recruiting

2281
02:56:12,160 --> 02:56:18,720
not the type of individuals that you want serving your city, and so I try really hard to

2282
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:22,720
be competitive. You're no longer, you're singing one up to 70,000 for patrol. You're

2283
02:56:22,720 --> 02:56:29,660
sitting at 60. You know, so you're not going to be able to compete at that level, but I'm

2284
02:56:29,660 --> 02:56:36,220
hoping with the salary scale and the anticipation that you eventually get there will help,

2285
02:56:36,220 --> 02:56:44,220
And that the reason that I'm asking for the 2% cola is because the 2% cola impacts your salary scale by 2%.

2286
02:56:44,980 --> 02:56:52,020
And so it keeps you moving up and not stagnant and everybody else is kind of going in that direction.

2287
02:56:52,900 --> 02:56:58,640
So it's just kind of a way to keep your salaries trending where everybody else is.

2288
02:56:58,640 --> 02:57:05,860
I lost two patrol, one to Seguine, and one to another city, and I can't pay with their pain.

2289
02:57:06,080 --> 02:57:06,360
Right.

2290
02:57:06,560 --> 02:57:08,560
But we'd still still be in the middle of the...

2291
02:57:08,560 --> 02:57:10,200
You're in the middle of the...

2292
02:57:11,220 --> 02:57:12,820
You're a little below the middle.

2293
02:57:13,140 --> 02:57:15,640
But with the 2% you'll be back in the middle.

2294
02:57:16,300 --> 02:57:17,900
So it's just kind of what you want to do.

2295
02:57:17,960 --> 02:57:18,360
Right.

2296
02:57:18,700 --> 02:57:24,840
And so I'm trying to make sure you don't go back to the way you were in 2010, where you had no increases.

2297
02:57:24,840 --> 02:57:35,160
We couldn't feel any position. It was a mess. So I don't want you to fall back into that because it took us a long time to get a few years to kind of get out of that

2298
02:57:36,540 --> 02:57:41,980
You're you're pretty fully staffed. I think I'm short one position in public warx one position in PD

2299
02:57:41,980 --> 02:57:49,260
We've our turnover has been quicker with the increase from last year and so I'm trying to keep it that way

2300
02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:54,160
Versus being four five short. So some of these changes have been for the good

2301
02:57:54,160 --> 02:58:00,280
I understand, though, that personnel continues to go up, and so at some point you're going

2302
02:58:00,280 --> 02:58:07,060
to have to have a hard conversation of positions and what you really need and what that really looks like.

2303
02:58:08,020 --> 02:58:12,160
But in order to be competitive and in order to provide your citizens with the quality of service,

2304
02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:16,860
like cut a code enforcement officer, we already get complaints that we're not doing the code stuff,

2305
02:58:17,000 --> 02:58:18,360
and so what does that look like?

2306
02:58:18,360 --> 02:58:28,180
But do you need to, it's a conversation you can, you can have internally, it may not be a next year conversation, but it is a forthcoming conversation.

2307
02:58:29,500 --> 02:58:35,220
So, these are the sadder split, I know it's kind of hard to read, but you can kind of see where everybody is at.

2308
02:58:35,440 --> 02:58:40,800
You can see the majority of people are paid out of your general phone, but when we're talking about red light cameras, red light cameras is this line item.

2309
02:58:40,800 --> 02:58:46,200
These are your two court personnel that are paid at a hundred percent under your red light cameras as well

2310
02:58:46,200 --> 02:58:48,640
And then these are some percentages that are also paid there

2311
02:58:49,720 --> 02:58:54,240
So as we are moving through moving personnel out of your red light cameras

2312
02:58:54,240 --> 02:59:04,660
You have between now and 2037, which is 10 years to move these people that you're going to continue to need over into your general fund

2313
02:59:04,660 --> 02:59:10,320
Your rest of your red light camera put at least personnel your mayor when you were getting at like two

2314
02:59:11,520 --> 02:59:14,920
We won't need them if we don't fund the program that is correct.

2315
02:59:15,100 --> 02:59:17,660
So when you hit 20, that you can save those two positions,

2316
02:59:18,160 --> 02:59:18,880
total 20, 30.

2317
02:59:19,000 --> 02:59:21,680
So you don't even need to have a conversation about them total 23, 7.

2318
02:59:22,380 --> 02:59:26,820
So you can eventually move everybody over the next 10 years

2319
02:59:26,820 --> 02:59:29,180
and keep those two lingering over there

2320
02:59:29,180 --> 02:59:34,080
because they will be absorbed in the abolishment

2321
02:59:34,080 --> 02:59:35,100
of the red light cameras.

2322
02:59:37,400 --> 02:59:57,580
And then our holidays for the winter holidays, or Christmas holidays, we close with Christmas Eve and then we'll return Monday January 4th and then some next steps will have a public hearing on the 25th and your tax rate hopefully by September 8th.

2323
02:59:57,760 --> 02:59:59,940
We also have your budget, it won't be...

2324
03:00:05,440 --> 03:00:24,640
So, after the retreat, unless you want to see something very specific, I will condense your budget presentation, but we will continue to have the conversation, so citizens can continue to come in and have a conversation at every council meeting between now and these said dates.

2325
03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:53,680
Thank you very much. I really appreciate Crystal and like I said, all of the department heads in Carol for putting together this budget. I know it's a labor of love, but it's also quite complicated, especially since y'all changed it this year. So to try to communicate it in a different way. So thank you for that. I think it's all good. Anything else for the good of the cause? Okay. All right. Thank you. No, it was 622 to 825.

2326
03:00:54,780 --> 03:01:02,140
That's okay. All right, but thank y'all very much really appreciate it. Okay, so some announcements I know we need to to move on is the

2327
03:01:02,940 --> 03:01:11,040
staff now excused Crystal. Yes, okay. Yeah, thank y'all very much for staying really appreciate it. It's sweet

2328
03:01:11,840 --> 03:01:13,200
didn't have enough

2329
03:01:13,200 --> 03:01:24,520
If we had any and okay, so announcements as mentioned in the city managers report, but I just wanted to reiterate that this is our last city council meeting until

2330
03:01:24,640 --> 03:01:30,400
July 21st, due to our summer break, but I just want to reiterate to the citizens that we are

2331
03:01:30,400 --> 03:01:31,440
still going to be working.

2332
03:01:33,500 --> 03:01:40,880
We have a grand opening on this Friday for Sapphire Radiance, Seneca, Plastic, 6 p.m.

2333
03:01:40,980 --> 03:01:44,980
And then we are going to have our annual Council retreat on Saturday.

2334
03:01:45,980 --> 03:01:48,200
It's usually the last, most of the day.

2335
03:01:48,640 --> 03:01:53,620
And then on June 10th, I'm not sure how many of us will go to the tour of the dispatch at

2336
03:01:53,620 --> 03:02:02,520
I'm one facility at 1604 in Chavano Park, and then at 6 o'clock on that same night, we'll

2337
03:02:02,520 --> 03:02:07,980
meet again here to review the permitted tables to everybody get that on your calendars,

2338
03:02:08,080 --> 03:02:09,320
want to be sure.

2339
03:02:09,860 --> 03:02:16,160
And then also we got word from the historical site that they'd like to reconvene and meet and

2340
03:02:16,160 --> 03:02:17,340
they've given us some time.

2341
03:02:17,340 --> 03:02:22,800
And so if you'll please bring your calendars on Saturday,

2342
03:02:23,360 --> 03:02:27,200
let's give them two dates between, I think, it's about 30 days that they gave us

2343
03:02:27,980 --> 03:02:31,960
June, June something to July something, I can't don't have those dates in front of me,

2344
03:02:32,000 --> 03:02:35,940
but if you'll bring your calendar, so we could try to give them some dates.

2345
03:02:37,120 --> 03:02:37,260
Yes.

2346
03:02:39,690 --> 03:02:42,590
On the 10th for the permitted use tables.

2347
03:02:44,630 --> 03:03:10,350
Yeah, some of us are, is that one o'clock here, some meet one o'clock also 1230 here, and then we'll do the tour, and then it'll be six o'clock back here for the permitted use tables. Yeah. So, and again, you know, any and all of us are ready, we'll in an L able to address any needs or concerns you have during that time.

2348
03:03:10,350 --> 03:03:16,050
just want you to know that, and of course the staff will be working on the budget during that time as well.

2349
03:03:16,930 --> 03:03:28,490
So then we have the July 4th celebration, the Historical Society's Walk runs at 730 on July 4th, and then 930 to 1230 we have the festivities at the Community Center that are free.

2350
03:03:29,130 --> 03:03:38,250
And then I made a note that city halls closed on that Monday 4 July 4th, which I just happened to note.

2351
03:03:39,870 --> 03:03:46,150
And one last thing is that I was able to meet because Councillor

2352
03:03:48,260 --> 03:04:08,580
Bolton was not able to meet today at the Historical Society, meeting with the Texas Historical Commission, the Board asked me to meet with them, so we met with Brian McAlley and Stephen Cure, and it was a really good meeting, and I'm sure they'll review it more formally when we get together.

2353
03:04:08,580 --> 03:04:10,560
But they

2354
03:04:13,730 --> 03:04:25,510
talked about public private partnerships as being a really good way of going, you know, with the city, the, the, the, the historical society, the county, the school district, you know, you bring everybody together.

2355
03:04:26,170 --> 03:04:35,470
But the bottom line is that you got to raise money for the renovation, and they don't actually, they have money for planning grants. This is the Texas Historical Commission.

2356
03:04:35,470 --> 03:04:43,190
But once you get your funding established, then they come in after that to help you run the program.

2357
03:04:44,150 --> 03:05:00,950
And anyway, but there is another option and that is where you have your state senator and state representative put a bill in for renovation of the historical building.

2358
03:05:00,950 --> 03:05:04,210
But it's not guaranteed funding at all.

2359
03:05:05,030 --> 03:05:09,170
And they also talked about, they have a lot of these kind of.

2360
03:05:09,410 --> 03:05:16,890
They have 40, I think it was 45 sites across the state that they are responsible for.

2361
03:05:17,450 --> 03:05:21,150
But, house like this, it's, they're looking for uniqueness.

2362
03:05:21,710 --> 03:05:25,790
And so there is a little bit unique in that we have the house and then you have the graveyard,

2363
03:05:25,970 --> 03:05:28,730
gravesite with the natural area, that's pretty unique.

2364
03:05:28,730 --> 03:05:35,150
So, anyway, it was a nice discussion, but I will defer to the Historical Society to present

2365
03:05:35,150 --> 03:05:41,190
a fuller county in what happened today, but anyway, I appreciate it getting in, being

2366
03:05:41,190 --> 03:05:41,590
asking.

2367
03:05:42,010 --> 03:05:42,710
And thank you.

2368
03:05:43,050 --> 03:05:49,670
So, anyway, I know there's a lot of other comments from the go-hats, Mr. Arroyo.

2369
03:05:50,270 --> 03:05:57,510
I want to publicly congratulate my Argrance son for graduating this Saturday, and I know

2370
03:05:57,510 --> 03:06:04,050
There's 1,000 kids that are graduating, so what makes it so special is that hopefully San

2371
03:06:04,050 --> 03:06:06,070
Tonya will benefit from this talent.

2372
03:06:06,450 --> 03:06:13,410
He got a scholarship to the University of the Lake University for a baseball scholarship

2373
03:06:13,410 --> 03:06:19,590
of hopefully that will kind of benefit San Antonio with this talent and congratulations to Jackson

2374
03:06:19,590 --> 03:06:23,190
on too, and also go spurs go.

2375
03:06:23,210 --> 03:06:25,570
I know, isn't that exciting?

2376
03:06:26,250 --> 03:06:27,170
Okay, anyone else?

2377
03:06:27,650 --> 03:06:29,110
Yes, Councillor Combs.

2378
03:06:29,850 --> 03:06:32,570
Well, I want to extend some congratulations

2379
03:06:32,570 --> 03:06:36,210
to one of our staff members, Mr. Brian Garcia.

2380
03:06:37,230 --> 03:06:42,470
He recently received from the TCEQ, a class C Groundwater

2381
03:06:42,470 --> 03:06:44,390
Treatment Operators License.

2382
03:06:44,390 --> 03:06:45,570
That's quite an accomplishment.

2383
03:06:45,570 --> 03:06:50,650
So please extend that David congratulations for him.

2384
03:06:51,930 --> 03:06:58,790
I do want to point out that this Friday, June 5th, that the fire department's going to have

2385
03:06:58,790 --> 03:07:06,970
a fundraiser for the library where you'll be able to dump the fire chief to raise funds

2386
03:07:06,970 --> 03:07:07,910
for the library.

2387
03:07:08,510 --> 03:07:09,710
Where's that going to be at?

2388
03:07:13,070 --> 03:07:14,290
This in the morning?

2389
03:07:16,450 --> 03:07:20,470
And the police also fill up, say again, the police chief also.

2390
03:07:20,510 --> 03:07:20,770
Yeah.

2391
03:07:24,740 --> 03:07:26,560
His ammunition will get wet.

2392
03:07:27,180 --> 03:07:29,240
So we don't dump the fire, the police chief.

2393
03:07:30,020 --> 03:07:32,400
Is this in one of those donkey machines?

2394
03:07:34,020 --> 03:07:34,520
Okay.

2395
03:07:35,000 --> 03:07:35,420
And then I like that.

2396
03:07:35,420 --> 03:07:36,020
Where you go, chief?

2397
03:07:36,420 --> 03:07:40,840
You know, I want to point out, then I know I do this every time we have a meeting.

2398
03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:45,300
Point out that the library has extensive programs.

2399
03:07:45,300 --> 03:07:54,160
in from now to the end of June, they're 31 separate programs that are going to happen at the library.

2400
03:07:55,240 --> 03:08:01,360
And I do, I know we said this in our comments, but Regina has done an outstanding job.

2401
03:08:01,440 --> 03:08:07,100
Just as our staff, I don't want to minimize all the other efforts of our staff, but she's got six

2402
03:08:07,100 --> 03:08:15,100
grant applications in in play right now. I think one is funded. I think we said last

2403
03:08:15,300 --> 03:08:21,080
last time that one was funded. So that's off to her. And so that's all I think.

2404
03:08:21,080 --> 03:08:27,820
Thank you. Did it. Yes. Councillor Bolton. Well, I would like to shout out to the John Marshall

2405
03:08:27,820 --> 03:08:33,040
Rams that graduated on Sunday. My daughter, Cadley Bolton, included. It was a really

2406
03:08:33,040 --> 03:08:38,640
wonderful ceremony. Good. Great. Well, congratulations. All right. Yes.

2407
03:08:43,320 --> 03:08:43,320
Councillor

2408
03:08:43,320 --> 03:08:50,620
activity by our officers recently, then I've seen in a long time in terms of traffic stops,

2409
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:57,320
just patrolling the neighborhoods, they just seem to be much more visible than they were

2410
03:08:57,320 --> 03:08:58,080
for quite a while.

2411
03:08:58,200 --> 03:08:59,720
So I really appreciate that.

2412
03:09:00,860 --> 03:09:06,840
I just wanted to add one thing now that you said that my neighbor came over about, it was

2413
03:09:06,840 --> 03:09:11,780
between the last city council meeting in the tonight, but anyway his son had an asthma

2414
03:09:11,780 --> 03:09:16,800
attack, 11 o'clock in the morning, in the evening, and I mean he could not say enough good

2415
03:09:16,800 --> 03:09:23,340
things about the fire department who helped him, and so he made sure he told me about it

2416
03:09:23,340 --> 03:09:28,180
because he was very proud of him. So thank you, his son's doing well now, but 11 o'clock

2417
03:09:28,180 --> 03:09:34,780
at night, and my husband heard the, you know, the sirens, but, you know, we didn't go over

2418
03:09:37,900 --> 03:09:47,140
I'm sorry, I have the note was too small, but I also want to congratulate mom here

2419
03:09:47,140 --> 03:09:52,160
Felicity Caldera who graduated recently.

2420
03:09:52,160 --> 03:09:52,840
That's right.

2421
03:09:52,840 --> 03:09:53,860
That's right.

2422
03:09:54,320 --> 03:09:55,900
The way to St. Mary's University.

2423
03:09:57,080 --> 03:09:57,440
Right.

2424
03:09:57,760 --> 03:10:00,100
Much luck and success for her in the future.

2425
03:10:01,180 --> 03:10:02,520
They win the baseball game.

2426
03:10:04,620 --> 03:10:05,820
Never mind.

2427
03:10:09,060 --> 03:10:14,680
I guess I also wanted to add, and I don't know, I think it's the police department, but

2428
03:10:14,680 --> 03:10:16,640
I'll also throw code enforcement in there.

2429
03:10:17,180 --> 03:10:23,600
I have seen more dead cars get taken off the street in my neighborhood alone in the last

2430
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:26,740
three days, then I've seen moved in a long time.

2431
03:10:26,940 --> 03:10:30,000
There's orange stickers on cars all over the place.

2432
03:10:30,000 --> 03:10:32,960
way to go chief, I appreciate that so much.

2433
03:10:33,240 --> 03:10:39,200
Okay. All right. Yes, until we get complaints. Yeah. Exactly. Okay, Dr. Carl, there

2434
03:10:39,200 --> 03:10:45,440
are a your report, please. I think I've spoken enough for this evening. Okay. So I have nothing

2435
03:10:45,440 --> 03:10:48,680
to add. All right. You know, do you the City Manager's for it? It's outside and online very

2436
03:10:48,680 --> 03:10:55,340
good. Thank you. Consentage on the 6.136.3. Anyone want to pull anything? Or may we have a

2437
03:10:55,340 --> 03:10:56,500
at a second.

2438
03:10:58,940 --> 03:11:02,860
We have a motion by Councillor Roscoe and a second by Councillor Combo's to approve

2439
03:11:02,860 --> 03:11:06,300
consent agenda 6.1 through 6.3.

2440
03:11:06,680 --> 03:11:07,540
Any further discussion?

2441
03:11:08,240 --> 03:11:09,600
All those in favor say aye.

2442
03:11:09,680 --> 03:11:10,640
Any opposed?

2443
03:11:10,820 --> 03:11:11,660
The motion does carry.

2444
03:11:11,800 --> 03:11:12,480
Thank you.

2445
03:11:12,640 --> 03:11:14,700
Then moving to the regular agenda.

2446
03:11:15,320 --> 03:11:16,960
Agenda item 7.1.

2447
03:11:17,140 --> 03:11:22,340
Precentation, discussion, and possible action to consider approval of a petition for

2448
03:11:22,340 --> 03:11:25,900
preliminary acceptance of John Marshall Drive Extension,

2449
03:11:26,020 --> 03:11:32,720
Lot 19, and Block A, Lot 23, and Block C John Marshall High School Subdivision

2450
03:11:32,720 --> 03:11:38,260
located at 8,000 Lobo Lane, and we have our planning and zoning director,

2451
03:11:38,820 --> 03:11:41,340
Michael Gaiardo here this evening to present.

2452
03:11:41,460 --> 03:11:42,240
Good evening. Welcome.

2453
03:11:42,820 --> 03:11:44,340
We're glad you're here. Thank you.

2454
03:11:45,280 --> 03:11:46,520
Would you just jump right in?

2455
03:11:46,860 --> 03:11:46,960
Yes.

2456
03:11:47,840 --> 03:11:51,960
So, question before city council is whether or not to approve the

2457
03:11:51,960 --> 03:11:58,200
for preliminary acceptance of the John Marshall Drive Extension at Marshall High School.

2458
03:11:58,900 --> 03:12:02,100
So your options are to approve tonight or other.

2459
03:12:02,800 --> 03:12:07,200
Step to clear, all public improvements were installed according to code.

2460
03:12:09,000 --> 03:12:12,800
So this is basically an administrative item that comply with Chapter 17,

2461
03:12:12,940 --> 03:12:17,160
our subdivision code. On November 19, 2025,

2462
03:12:17,440 --> 03:12:21,160
the planning and zoning commission approved the replad of Marshall High School.

2463
03:12:21,160 --> 03:12:46,440
It's subdivision, including the construction of the new John Marshall Drive extension and in that, and with regards to that, we abandoned Robin Road on May 15th, 2026 the city engineer performed a final inspection, so they did a punch list item and the inspection of the public improvements and found

2464
03:12:46,440 --> 03:12:52,680
to be satisfactorily constructed according to pertinent codes. So basically they passed.

2465
03:12:53,420 --> 03:12:59,680
Okay. So as a result of that, the owner is now petitioning the city to accept the John Marshall

2466
03:12:59,680 --> 03:13:07,140
drive extension on a preliminary basis. So the applicant has posted a maintenance bond in the

2467
03:13:07,140 --> 03:13:16,040
amount of $54,169.80 which is 10% of actual costs to guarantee compliance with the one-year

2468
03:13:17,980 --> 03:13:24,100
corrections of deficiencies after one year to be performed by the owner prior to final acceptance by city council.

2469
03:13:24,480 --> 03:13:31,200
So essentially what will happen is that we'll sit on this for a year and then they'll come back for final acceptance for city council.

2470
03:13:31,500 --> 03:13:36,100
But in between that, there's any deficiencies they'll be responsible for fixing that.

2471
03:13:39,500 --> 03:13:46,180
Recommendations, statins, and sitting in the engineer recommend the approval of the petition for preliminary acceptance for John Marford,

2472
03:13:50,080 --> 03:13:56,230
Okay, is there an issue with access to the residents and money rubles?

2473
03:13:57,580 --> 03:14:03,060
Well, they are going to be doing construction, but they have submitted a traffic control plan.

2474
03:14:03,520 --> 03:14:05,060
So there is going to be access.

2475
03:14:05,480 --> 03:14:06,160
Okay, so there.

2476
03:14:06,520 --> 03:14:08,580
But it will be extended throughout summer.

2477
03:14:08,900 --> 03:14:09,940
So they are doing construction.

2478
03:14:10,300 --> 03:14:14,520
So what they're doing now is since they fixed on Marshall Drive,

2479
03:14:14,520 --> 03:14:21,380
it extends from echoed into global length, but they are going to use alternate routes right now

2480
03:14:21,380 --> 03:14:27,240
because they are going to do construction in that whole area between John Marshall Drive and

2481
03:14:29,720 --> 03:14:37,500
not Robin Road, but Bluebird, Bluebird, Bluebird, they're constructing the parking lot.

2482
03:14:37,500 --> 03:14:38,700
Okay, now, is...

2483
03:14:38,700 --> 03:14:40,140
What's in the access?

2484
03:14:42,160 --> 03:14:42,720
Uh...

2485
03:14:46,180 --> 03:14:46,740
Um...

2486
03:14:46,740 --> 03:14:48,200
Okay, that was the concern.

2487
03:14:50,880 --> 03:14:51,120
Sure.

2488
03:14:51,640 --> 03:14:52,560
We understand that.

2489
03:14:52,620 --> 03:14:55,360
But they're still going to be able to get in, but it'll be a D'sure.

2490
03:14:56,040 --> 03:14:58,260
Now, the light is that bluebird, right?

2491
03:14:59,400 --> 03:14:59,980
Isn't that right?

2492
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:19,000
That's the very last. John Marshal has a light. No, but they'll have the light on him's over. That's what I'm asking. It used to be way over there on the very far. They're going to move it over to John Marshal. That's what I thought. Okay. And then the timeline for complete completion is a year.

2493
03:15:20,180 --> 03:15:27,320
That when is it because I know that people in Lincoln were asking me when I was black walking. When is John Marshal going to get done?

2494
03:15:27,320 --> 03:15:29,060
I know.

2495
03:15:33,510 --> 03:15:34,210
And at the summer.

2496
03:15:35,070 --> 03:15:35,550
Okay.

2497
03:15:37,410 --> 03:15:37,710
Okay.

2498
03:15:39,450 --> 03:15:39,650
All right.

2499
03:15:39,850 --> 03:15:40,330
Very good.

2500
03:15:40,510 --> 03:15:40,770
Somebody.

2501
03:15:42,470 --> 03:15:42,950
Bolton.

2502
03:15:44,170 --> 03:15:45,910
I just have a question about the map.

2503
03:15:46,030 --> 03:15:48,230
Can you go back to it?

2504
03:15:48,490 --> 03:15:51,110
This is the old how it used to be.

2505
03:15:51,370 --> 03:15:54,270
Do you have a picture of what it's going to look like when it's done?

2506
03:15:56,190 --> 03:15:58,370
Of what I just for other people to see.

2507
03:16:00,470 --> 03:16:03,730
Okay, I was just worried about other people, not myself.

2508
03:16:03,790 --> 03:16:09,650
Okay, so the reason that it's like this is because you're not talking about the plan.

2509
03:16:09,730 --> 03:16:11,270
You're talking about rededicating.

2510
03:16:12,710 --> 03:16:14,150
You're going to ask me.

2511
03:16:14,970 --> 03:16:16,370
I can send that to you.

2512
03:16:16,510 --> 03:16:21,250
So in the original PowerPoint presentation, when we talked about the whole project and moving the streets

2513
03:16:21,250 --> 03:16:23,550
and what that's going to look like, that was part of that presentation.

2514
03:16:23,870 --> 03:16:26,410
This is just the rededicating of the roadway.

2515
03:16:26,410 --> 03:16:33,050
Okay. That's why that. But if you want that PowerPoint presentation, I can send that to y'all. Okay. So.

2516
03:16:33,970 --> 03:16:34,490
Yeah.

2517
03:16:37,110 --> 03:16:45,070
This whole reconfiguration would be done at the end of the summer. And then the whole project is 2028 roughly.

2518
03:16:45,270 --> 03:16:53,610
I mean, they have the time line. And I think John has other phases as far as like internally, but the whole parking lot street thing.

2519
03:16:53,610 --> 03:16:58,030
They were hoping to get done before the new school year, but they're much like us.

2520
03:16:58,270 --> 03:17:00,570
I'm not going to Gary whether related.

2521
03:17:00,570 --> 03:17:03,550
I mean, it looks like it's going to be a rainy summer.

2522
03:17:03,730 --> 03:17:06,490
There's so many factors. I'm not guaranteeing anything.

2523
03:17:07,010 --> 03:17:09,770
But this particular item isn't dealing with the project.

2524
03:17:09,830 --> 03:17:13,570
This was just re-dedicating the street. That's all we're talking about here.

2525
03:17:14,350 --> 03:17:15,710
And so y'all recommend to approval.

2526
03:17:16,110 --> 03:17:18,730
Okay. Yes. Councillor Compos.

2527
03:17:18,730 --> 03:17:24,550
So I went by there today because I wanted to see what condition is it in.

2528
03:17:24,850 --> 03:17:29,570
Well, it's hard to see it unless you're, you're, because you're detoured, right?

2529
03:17:30,130 --> 03:17:34,430
And so I did see that it was in a good shape and I'm in support of it.

2530
03:17:34,570 --> 03:17:38,550
So I'd like to make the motion that we accept this item is present.

2531
03:17:38,690 --> 03:17:38,910
Okay.

2532
03:17:39,410 --> 03:17:40,470
All right.

2533
03:17:41,390 --> 03:17:45,750
We have a motion by Councillor Combo's in a second by Councillor Huyel

2534
03:17:45,750 --> 03:17:55,350
to accept 7.1 as presented regarding the John Marshall extension, any further comment?

2535
03:17:56,270 --> 03:17:57,850
All those in favour say aye.

2536
03:17:58,450 --> 03:17:59,050
Any opposed?

2537
03:17:59,330 --> 03:18:00,090
The motion desk carry.

2538
03:18:00,310 --> 03:18:01,310
Thank you, Mr. Gallardo.

2539
03:18:01,310 --> 03:18:02,010
I do appreciate.

2540
03:18:02,830 --> 03:18:08,150
Okay, and you're up for the next one, so let me read agenda 7.2.

2541
03:18:08,730 --> 03:18:14,230
Presentation, discussion, and a public hearing and possible action on an ordinance to amend

2542
03:18:14,230 --> 03:18:23,290
ordinance 2025-8 to change the zoning from PD plan development district with R3 multiple family

2543
03:18:23,290 --> 03:18:31,230
dwelling based zoning district to PD plan development district with R6 garden house based

2544
03:18:31,230 --> 03:18:41,330
zoning district on approximately 6.8 acre of land located at 6612 and 6618 saw your road and

2545
03:18:41,330 --> 03:18:49,110
specifically described as Northwest 330 foot of Lott's 10, 11, 12, 13, and the Northeast

2546
03:18:49,110 --> 03:18:57,750
20 foot triangle of Lott's 10, and the Southwest 400 foot of Lott's 3, CB 58, 74, and the

2547
03:18:57,750 --> 03:19:05,090
first read was held on May 5, 20, 26, and Mr. Guyard, our planning and zoning director is here

2548
03:19:05,090 --> 03:19:08,190
to continue the discussion. Thank you and welcome.

2549
03:19:09,130 --> 03:19:12,470
So basically city councils,

2550
03:19:12,490 --> 03:19:15,190
Mending ordinance 2025-8,

2551
03:19:16,250 --> 03:19:18,430
supplant development district with

2552
03:19:18,430 --> 03:19:21,750
our three multi-family dwelling district to PD

2553
03:19:21,750 --> 03:19:24,910
with our six garden house district.

2554
03:19:25,530 --> 03:19:29,190
So we're requesting variances from section 15.0312,

2555
03:19:29,770 --> 03:19:31,050
which is our zoning.

2556
03:19:31,950 --> 03:19:34,570
So we're looking at our six garden house district.

2557
03:19:34,870 --> 03:19:36,710
The applicant, this is something

2558
03:19:36,710 --> 03:19:38,730
that we need to take note of.

2559
03:19:38,850 --> 03:19:40,430
The applicant is requesting to keep

2560
03:19:40,430 --> 03:19:43,890
as a original R3 status with a proof plan

2561
03:19:43,890 --> 03:19:46,910
and add this R6 use with the approved plan.

2562
03:19:47,970 --> 03:19:49,710
So that's what is actually seeking.

2563
03:19:50,630 --> 03:19:54,470
We're also requesting references from chapter 10,

2564
03:19:54,650 --> 03:19:56,330
which is our subdivision regulation,

2565
03:19:56,990 --> 03:20:01,670
particularly 10.02.251, applicable standards

2566
03:20:01,670 --> 03:20:02,950
and specifications.

2567
03:20:02,950 --> 03:20:10,730
Lastly, we're requesting variances from chapter 13, our free preservation chapter, specifically

2568
03:20:10,730 --> 03:20:17,570
section 13.02, 0.0, 8.0, heritage, heritage, free removal.

2569
03:20:21,340 --> 03:20:24,260
Okay, so we have the definition here for our planned development district.

2570
03:20:24,880 --> 03:20:30,700
Obviously, we're working towards flexible and creative planning, the goals, objectives, and

2571
03:20:30,700 --> 03:20:35,280
maps of the city's comprehensive planning, including but not limited to the city's future

2572
03:20:35,280 --> 03:20:41,560
land use plan, economic development is also incorporated into it, capability of land uses,

2573
03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:43,980
innovative plan concepts.

2574
03:20:47,110 --> 03:20:48,290
Let's jump into the variances.

2575
03:20:49,470 --> 03:20:50,550
So, a lot of regulation.

2576
03:20:51,230 --> 03:20:56,570
Minimum area of large size decreased from 4,500 to 2,350 square feet.

2577
03:20:57,410 --> 03:21:01,850
Minimum lot depth reduced from 100 to 85 feet.

2578
03:21:02,410 --> 03:21:07,370
Minimum floor space reduced from 1800 to 1,100 square feet.

2579
03:21:08,350 --> 03:21:15,830
Minimum front, front edge reduced from 45 to 28 feet and then we reduced our setbacks, starting

2580
03:21:15,830 --> 03:21:18,370
with the rear from 15 to 8 feet.

2581
03:21:18,770 --> 03:21:22,130
Our front setback was going to be decreased from 20 to 18.

2582
03:21:23,030 --> 03:21:29,170
Our side setbacks are going to be from 5 to 2 and a half or based on either side of the

2583
03:21:29,170 --> 03:21:30,190
lot of KV0.

2584
03:21:30,550 --> 03:21:33,250
Between buildings we went from 10 to 5 feet.

2585
03:21:35,720 --> 03:21:42,440
Barvarences continued. Minor, a private street minimum right of way was reduced from 50 to 32 feet.

2586
03:21:43,420 --> 03:21:53,060
Minor, a private street pavement with reduced from 30 to 22 feet. Corner lots, minimum width from 70 feet to 29 feet.

2587
03:21:54,140 --> 03:21:59,500
Driveway access to a collector street. This is based on whether or not the buffers will be approved.

2588
03:21:59,880 --> 03:22:04,920
Proposed to remove 13 heritage trees and pay a fee in lieu of 50,000.

2589
03:22:04,920 --> 03:22:09,880
So we're now looking from going from 25,000 CAP to 50,000.

2590
03:22:12,460 --> 03:22:13,980
So this is where the properties located.

2591
03:22:14,060 --> 03:22:15,420
Here's your location map.

2592
03:22:17,040 --> 03:22:18,160
Here's an aerial view.

2593
03:22:20,990 --> 03:22:26,230
And so the surrounding zoning on the north side is B1, B2, and R1.

2594
03:22:26,930 --> 03:22:29,110
On the west side it's R1, and R3.

2595
03:22:30,470 --> 03:22:33,930
On the east side it's B1, B2, B3, and R1.

2596
03:22:34,110 --> 03:22:39,090
On the south side it's R1, R3, B2, and B3.

2597
03:22:39,090 --> 03:22:45,330
And then we have a map here with the colors in there so that you can better identify the zoning.

2598
03:22:49,280 --> 03:22:53,060
So this is the original site plan. This is the one we started out to amend, right?

2599
03:22:54,680 --> 03:22:59,020
So then he proposed a revised site plan, which is this is the one we saw.

2600
03:22:59,740 --> 03:23:02,360
And then lastly, this is the last one that we saw here.

2601
03:23:02,840 --> 03:23:06,940
So there's a couple of things that I want to point out real quick on this revised site plan.

2602
03:23:06,940 --> 03:23:11,680
So the last time we brought this, he brought this to City Council.

2603
03:23:12,680 --> 03:23:16,580
One of the first things was that there was a dedicated buffer there for 10 feet.

2604
03:23:16,860 --> 03:23:21,860
Five was going to be dedicated by the city and five was going to be from the developer site.

2605
03:23:22,420 --> 03:23:25,660
However, he's now abandoned that and he's going to provide that.

2606
03:23:26,200 --> 03:23:28,340
The full 10 feet.

2607
03:23:29,140 --> 03:23:34,660
There was also discussion about connecting POS to Sawyer Road through Chris Cross.

2608
03:23:35,600 --> 03:23:38,620
and that we would be partly involved in

2609
03:23:38,620 --> 03:23:39,840
dedicating that right away.

2610
03:23:40,700 --> 03:23:42,980
So that's also been abandoned at this time.

2611
03:23:43,820 --> 03:23:45,660
And obviously the developer was

2612
03:23:45,660 --> 03:23:46,860
speaking a little bit more to that.

2613
03:23:49,480 --> 03:23:50,680
Yes, excuse me, I'm sorry.

2614
03:23:51,160 --> 03:23:52,820
Councillor Comfort, let's go ahead.

2615
03:23:53,240 --> 03:23:56,880
Could you explain for me that on the curves?

2616
03:23:57,880 --> 03:23:59,260
What is this?

2617
03:23:59,260 --> 03:24:03,660
What is this red on these curved bottom roads me?

2618
03:24:03,660 --> 03:24:11,460
So, what I believe the developer trying to do is point out where the corner lots are going to be smaller.

2619
03:24:12,880 --> 03:24:16,680
And you know, let us speak to that but I also have information regarding that.

2620
03:24:16,700 --> 03:24:23,420
But I believe that's what that's for because in between those is a parking name.

2621
03:24:26,020 --> 03:24:28,020
It's a parking name.

2622
03:24:28,160 --> 03:24:30,800
Well, it's actually a four parking.

2623
03:24:30,800 --> 03:24:41,100
So, there's a parking link, so those two curves are on either side of the linear feet of the parking link, basically on either side of the parking link.

2624
03:24:41,260 --> 03:24:42,800
So, those two red curves cap,

2625
03:24:46,340 --> 03:24:54,380
but I think that that's going to demonstrate, you know, are the width of the corner lots, and so that's just there as a safety feature.

2626
03:24:54,740 --> 03:24:57,900
But, again, I let the developer expand on that.

2627
03:25:00,360 --> 03:25:03,320
So these are our conceptual designs, right?

2628
03:25:03,340 --> 03:25:06,940
This is primarily when we might be able to see.

2629
03:25:07,820 --> 03:25:09,600
So here are some of the staff comments, right?

2630
03:25:09,840 --> 03:25:12,880
Proposed development will consist of approximately 72

2631
03:25:12,880 --> 03:25:15,400
lots for garden house development.

2632
03:25:15,920 --> 03:25:17,820
Property will need to be replied at a priority.

2633
03:25:17,920 --> 03:25:19,140
Any development or construction.

2634
03:25:20,320 --> 03:25:22,760
Staff recommends the applicant follow the code

2635
03:25:22,760 --> 03:25:25,120
when it comes to true preservation and mitigation.

2636
03:25:26,600 --> 03:25:29,660
Staff recommends that no residential R6 lots

2637
03:25:29,660 --> 03:25:36,160
have dryway access, dryway access to a collector's street, regarding the, again, that's a

2638
03:25:36,160 --> 03:25:40,080
safety issue, but again, if the buffer is allowed, then that will negate this.

2639
03:25:42,810 --> 03:25:50,710
That also recommends to place a condition on the site plan that they can increase units more than

2640
03:25:50,710 --> 03:25:56,990
10% without counsel approval. And then, of course, internal roadways, let's meet all requirements

2641
03:25:56,990 --> 03:25:58,250
for the firecoat.

2642
03:26:02,160 --> 03:26:05,760
So again, this is kind of one of the main issues here

2643
03:26:06,480 --> 03:26:09,880
unsafe, ingress egress on a collector's street.

2644
03:26:11,220 --> 03:26:14,340
If the presented buffer isn't approved,

2645
03:26:17,260 --> 03:26:19,840
we have a couple of notes here just from the city engineer.

2646
03:26:21,020 --> 03:26:23,540
He's just asking them to verify the width.

2647
03:26:25,360 --> 03:26:27,520
And cut out like a section, let us know

2648
03:26:27,520 --> 03:26:30,280
what exactly is the true width.

2649
03:26:30,280 --> 03:26:40,600
If that is going from 50 to 32, we're also asking for the PDD not to remove any of the

2650
03:26:40,600 --> 03:26:44,820
language that has to do with the right way access to the collector's street.

2651
03:26:46,680 --> 03:26:47,440
Okay, yeah.

2652
03:26:47,920 --> 03:26:48,900
I'm confused on that.

2653
03:26:49,080 --> 03:26:49,720
Is that so?

2654
03:26:49,720 --> 03:26:49,980
Yes.

2655
03:26:50,380 --> 03:26:50,620
Councillor.

2656
03:26:50,800 --> 03:27:01,060
If I am understanding correctly, there's no need for that any longer because he is condensed

2657
03:27:01,060 --> 03:27:06,740
his lots, so with that requested revision, just be removed.

2658
03:27:07,340 --> 03:27:08,300
Are we talking about the buffer?

2659
03:27:09,120 --> 03:27:11,880
The access driveway access to collector street.

2660
03:27:12,920 --> 03:27:13,180
Correct.

2661
03:27:13,380 --> 03:27:16,260
So have you approved the buffer of 10 feet that he's proposing?

2662
03:27:16,800 --> 03:27:18,300
Then they can negate that.

2663
03:27:20,260 --> 03:27:22,420
But it's just going to be included until we make a decision.

2664
03:27:23,340 --> 03:27:23,660
Okay.

2665
03:27:24,200 --> 03:27:29,880
And I just wanted to verify that adding the 10-foot buffer

2666
03:27:31,900 --> 03:27:33,060
meets the same

2667
03:27:33,060 --> 03:27:36,540
that we're looking for?

2668
03:27:36,580 --> 03:27:37,180
I would be not.

2669
03:27:37,420 --> 03:27:37,600
I'm saying.

2670
03:27:37,760 --> 03:27:42,360
I mean, our coaches don't have any access to the collector street.

2671
03:27:42,900 --> 03:27:47,720
So we add that, are we saying that that will meet the safety standard?

2672
03:27:47,900 --> 03:27:50,060
I just want to be sure.

2673
03:27:51,000 --> 03:27:56,980
I mean, so the engineer commented on that same request last time and he said that he thinks it would help mitigate.

2674
03:27:57,380 --> 03:28:01,960
But we're never going to guarantee any access to anything ever to say it's 100%.

2675
03:28:01,960 --> 03:28:04,380
You can pull out of your driveway on fourish way and get hit.

2676
03:28:04,460 --> 03:28:05,100
I'm not going to hit you.

2677
03:28:05,100 --> 03:28:05,440
Oh, I know.

2678
03:28:05,600 --> 03:28:08,600
I take my life in my hands every time I, I can't help.

2679
03:28:08,600 --> 03:28:10,060
So we're not going to say that.

2680
03:28:10,120 --> 03:28:12,220
But it does provide an additional layer.

2681
03:28:12,440 --> 03:28:14,600
I mean, it was also a good compromise, I think.

2682
03:28:14,640 --> 03:28:16,080
Versus do you have anything?

2683
03:28:16,320 --> 03:28:17,660
I just wanted to clarify that.

2684
03:28:17,660 --> 03:28:18,720
Thank you.

2685
03:28:20,200 --> 03:28:20,840
Yes, I'm sorry.

2686
03:28:21,160 --> 03:28:21,900
Councilor March.

2687
03:28:22,540 --> 03:28:27,580
So on the 10-foot buffers zone, will it be clearly separated

2688
03:28:27,580 --> 03:28:32,380
from Sawyer Road by a curb or a retainer wall

2689
03:28:32,380 --> 03:28:43,460
or something that will help prevent any accidental jump over the curb or whatever to get

2690
03:28:43,460 --> 03:28:43,880
to soil.

2691
03:28:44,200 --> 03:28:49,040
So that will come later on as we have the conversations about what that's going to look

2692
03:28:49,040 --> 03:28:49,560
like.

2693
03:28:50,180 --> 03:28:55,720
I'm not a big fan of retaining walls or pillars because people hit them and they can cause

2694
03:28:55,720 --> 03:28:58,420
more damage than safety concerns.

2695
03:28:58,420 --> 03:29:02,760
And so, I mean, is a conversation and we'll have a smear in the engineers on what that looks like.

2696
03:29:02,780 --> 03:29:06,940
We just need to make sure that we have some dedicated right away to do something.

2697
03:29:07,080 --> 03:29:10,900
That's because we're going to have a conversation of how they'll be able to back out one way only,

2698
03:29:10,920 --> 03:29:14,360
because you can't go, you can't two people back out and try to go the opposite way.

2699
03:29:14,880 --> 03:29:16,900
So we don't know exactly what that'll look like.

2700
03:29:17,080 --> 03:29:20,480
It's just giving us the ability to work something out with that area.

2701
03:29:21,300 --> 03:29:24,660
But will the council actually end up seeing what the visualization look like?

2702
03:29:24,720 --> 03:29:25,160
No.

2703
03:29:26,720 --> 03:29:26,860
Yeah.

2704
03:29:26,860 --> 03:29:30,020
But I just like you don't vote on what the house looks like.

2705
03:29:30,400 --> 03:29:30,740
Yeah, I understand.

2706
03:29:30,980 --> 03:29:33,300
I just was curious because that's a safety concern.

2707
03:29:33,500 --> 03:29:33,740
Yeah.

2708
03:29:33,800 --> 03:29:35,860
The safety is that you're giving a ten foot,

2709
03:29:36,740 --> 03:29:42,480
no parking and a ten foot easement outside of them coming out of their driveway.

2710
03:29:42,740 --> 03:29:43,600
That's what y'all are.

2711
03:29:43,760 --> 03:29:46,080
So yeah, I'm short to Dr. Klung at us point.

2712
03:29:46,420 --> 03:29:47,080
It's to be determined.

2713
03:29:50,180 --> 03:29:51,120
Thank you.

2714
03:29:54,360 --> 03:29:55,100
Yes, Councillor.

2715
03:29:55,220 --> 03:29:58,180
Can you go back to the previous slide?

2716
03:29:58,280 --> 03:29:59,960
You didn't really talk about these engines.

2717
03:30:00,580 --> 03:30:02,900
I'd like to hear a little more about them.

2718
03:30:03,240 --> 03:30:10,080
Yeah, so basically the engineers recommended that they get rid of the parking lane and that will give them, you know,

2719
03:30:10,200 --> 03:30:13,280
because there is 28 feet of accessibility there.

2720
03:30:13,580 --> 03:30:20,140
So it's a recommendation to remove the parking lane and that will make people park on one side of the street only.

2721
03:30:21,000 --> 03:30:29,520
The other thing is, he's just calling out whether it's, we're seeking clarity as a 28 feet with or 22.

2722
03:30:29,520 --> 03:30:34,520
because it looks like there's some sections that are only 28 feet in width.

2723
03:30:35,140 --> 03:30:37,100
So it's just basically asking for clarity.

2724
03:30:39,260 --> 03:30:41,840
So we would just ask the applicant.

2725
03:30:43,540 --> 03:30:44,880
Oh, he did.

2726
03:30:50,970 --> 03:30:52,550
Oh, we have to respond to those.

2727
03:30:53,150 --> 03:30:55,670
Yeah, so the commissioner provided to the developer.

2728
03:30:56,570 --> 03:30:57,510
We didn't receive them.

2729
03:30:57,530 --> 03:30:57,910
Okay.

2730
03:30:58,190 --> 03:30:58,590
I see.

2731
03:30:58,890 --> 03:30:59,650
So we don't know yet.

2732
03:31:00,430 --> 03:31:01,370
Thank you.

2733
03:31:02,720 --> 03:31:10,320
So then these, uh, next comments have to do with our corner lots, you know, there are going to be some lots that aren't going to have the full frontage.

2734
03:31:10,860 --> 03:31:15,600
So the city engineers just, seeing clarity to see that, um,

2735
03:31:16,280 --> 03:31:20,800
that these corner lots are giving drivers enough of a vision clearance.

2736
03:31:21,200 --> 03:31:23,620
So he'll just have to justify that.

2737
03:31:23,860 --> 03:31:25,820
And then the last one has to do with parking.

2738
03:31:26,320 --> 03:31:29,300
He's stating that there's two off street parking spaces.

2739
03:31:29,300 --> 03:31:34,980
We just want clarity as to whether that's for the entire project or per home.

2740
03:31:39,340 --> 03:31:43,020
But these are going to be comments found in the fire chief.

2741
03:31:43,720 --> 03:31:49,860
So basically highlighted hose runs would not be allowed due to firefighter safety and access.

2742
03:31:50,160 --> 03:31:57,120
Access to backyard with fencing would not be feasible and the same for pulling hose through a detention pond area.

2743
03:31:57,800 --> 03:32:01,880
So this is actually something that the developers are going to have to work out with a fire chief

2744
03:32:01,880 --> 03:32:06,980
before they install any of their fire hydrants and treats and etc.

2745
03:32:08,180 --> 03:32:10,180
Is there a possible solution?

2746
03:32:11,500 --> 03:32:13,660
That's to be determined between him and the fire chief.

2747
03:32:15,440 --> 03:32:20,280
I'm leaning towards there should be, but I mean, I can't speak on behalf of the fire chief.

2748
03:32:20,820 --> 03:32:21,880
Wow, I mean, that's.

2749
03:32:21,880 --> 03:32:23,020
And then we have three things to do.

2750
03:32:23,220 --> 03:32:26,720
Now is because, you know, these are going to have to be approved later,

2751
03:32:27,280 --> 03:32:28,880
so we're just in our fairness to the developer.

2752
03:32:29,120 --> 03:32:30,440
We're going everything at them.

2753
03:32:30,440 --> 03:32:31,380
So we're going to look everywhere.

2754
03:32:32,080 --> 03:32:33,240
All right.

2755
03:32:34,000 --> 03:32:34,760
A lot of concerns.

2756
03:32:35,780 --> 03:32:36,820
OK, go ahead.

2757
03:32:37,600 --> 03:32:41,580
So we're now at the TREA Metauri and mitigation plan.

2758
03:32:42,220 --> 03:32:46,120
So again, it looks like he's going to be removing.

2759
03:32:47,450 --> 03:32:52,460
I believe it's 14, it's 1,021 inches,

2760
03:32:52,580 --> 03:32:57,280
and then he's going to replace 450, which leaves

2761
03:32:58,310 --> 03:32:59,860
a mitigation fee, right?

2762
03:32:59,860 --> 03:33:07,400
So, to his point, he's just capping the mitigation fee at 50,000 due to the constraints of the development.

2763
03:33:08,460 --> 03:33:11,820
And, and Mr. Carter, what is the total mitigation fee?

2764
03:33:12,480 --> 03:33:14,760
It, currently it stands at $97,100.

2765
03:33:15,940 --> 03:33:16,900
$97,100.

2766
03:33:18,040 --> 03:33:19,000
Thank you.

2767
03:33:21,380 --> 03:33:26,300
So, that was something that was, you know, added, again, 25,000 before.

2768
03:33:26,540 --> 03:33:27,680
And I will use the bump into the differential.

2769
03:33:28,420 --> 03:33:29,360
Okay. Thank you.

2770
03:33:29,360 --> 03:33:39,260
So the master plan, properties along for our road may be zone for residential uses, which is consistent with the proposed use of the PDD request as a garden house development.

2771
03:33:39,700 --> 03:33:43,000
Remember, he's also going to keep a hard three as well.

2772
03:33:43,800 --> 03:33:47,860
Request is consistent and compatible with the city's master plan.

2773
03:33:49,400 --> 03:33:54,780
Again, we sent out 16 notifications and none of them came back either for or against.

2774
03:33:55,860 --> 03:33:58,240
And surprisingly, they were all delivered.

2775
03:34:00,020 --> 03:34:02,600
That recommends applicant revised site plan,

2776
03:34:02,880 --> 03:34:07,360
so that dryways cannot access a collector street if buffer is not accepted.

2777
03:34:08,280 --> 03:34:14,780
That recommends project to be held to not exceed an increase of 10% in change.

2778
03:34:15,000 --> 03:34:16,980
If not, it needs to go before city council.

2779
03:34:17,640 --> 03:34:21,640
That recommends that the code's free preservation and mitigation process be followed,

2780
03:34:21,640 --> 03:34:24,400
and any variance requested about the goal.

2781
03:34:24,860 --> 03:34:26,720
Previous of approval to be re-errified.

2782
03:34:28,560 --> 03:34:30,860
We also recommend that the development address

2783
03:34:30,860 --> 03:34:33,840
though the recommendations provided by the city

2784
03:34:33,840 --> 03:34:34,380
and the area.

2785
03:34:35,680 --> 03:34:39,240
Internal roadways must meet all requirements of the fire goal.

2786
03:34:41,930 --> 03:34:42,570
Physical impact,

2787
03:34:42,650 --> 03:34:45,170
all fees associated with the cement and quaves

2788
03:34:45,170 --> 03:34:46,750
request have been paid.

2789
03:34:47,350 --> 03:34:49,510
The development of a single family development

2790
03:34:49,510 --> 03:34:52,090
will increase that valorment sales tax in the city.

2791
03:34:55,680 --> 03:35:00,840
A few months ago, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval in a vote of five to two.

2792
03:35:05,010 --> 03:35:11,690
So our goals are for environmental support, a cleaner health year, and more sustainable future for the young valley.

2793
03:35:12,350 --> 03:35:19,610
By implementing a co-friendly initiative to conserve natural resources and reducing the city's environmental footprint.

2794
03:35:28,310 --> 03:35:29,050
Councillor Merch.

2795
03:35:29,230 --> 03:35:36,550
Can you go back to the point about the three ordinances and their, no, next one?

2796
03:35:36,550 --> 03:35:42,150
Staff recommends that the code's tree preservation and mitigation process be followed in a variance requested.

2797
03:35:42,590 --> 03:35:44,510
What exactly is that saying?

2798
03:35:45,730 --> 03:35:54,550
Oh, so with the PDD, for example, he's saying that you see it in this presentation that he's allowed to cut everything down and then just pay the 50,000.

2799
03:35:55,950 --> 03:36:03,990
To where our code says, you know, for each large tree that you cut, medium tree that you cut, you have to replace it with X amount of inches.

2800
03:36:05,190 --> 03:36:05,790
Okay.

2801
03:36:05,790 --> 03:36:07,850
That's just recommending that you follow the problem.

2802
03:36:09,130 --> 03:36:09,330
Okay.

2803
03:36:09,530 --> 03:36:13,170
Rather than setting an arbitrary cap or anything like that.

2804
03:36:25,690 --> 03:36:26,870
All of the rules.

2805
03:36:27,150 --> 03:36:27,710
All of the rules.

2806
03:36:28,130 --> 03:36:28,930
We

2807
03:36:33,860 --> 03:36:35,140
do our best for our business,

2808
03:36:42,220 --> 03:36:45,900
but are you in the lives of hardship or from what we're doing with the process

2809
03:36:50,760 --> 03:36:52,100
of dealing with the project?

2810
03:36:53,760 --> 03:36:55,100
Who is it that you're dealing with?

2811
03:37:01,580 --> 03:37:03,160
Who may not be able to do that?

2812
03:37:07,900 --> 03:37:14,280
To have preventions, are not able to order exactly what it is possible to order or not?

2813
03:37:17,970 --> 03:37:18,930
Thank you.

2814
03:37:19,570 --> 03:37:20,350
Thank you.

2815
03:37:20,510 --> 03:37:21,030
All right.

2816
03:37:21,030 --> 03:37:27,630
Um, did you say that the applicant has another hour point, okay?

2817
03:37:27,790 --> 03:37:28,430
So let's do that.

2818
03:37:28,570 --> 03:37:32,810
We also need to have a public hearing, even though we don't have anybody here, but anyway,

2819
03:37:33,030 --> 03:37:34,030
we'll still have it.

2820
03:37:34,250 --> 03:37:36,730
All right, Mr. Shadi, you're next.

2821
03:37:36,790 --> 03:37:38,070
Thank you and good evening.

2822
03:37:38,450 --> 03:37:39,130
Good evening.

2823
03:37:39,610 --> 03:37:41,690
It's always a pleasure following the budget discussion.

2824
03:37:43,230 --> 03:37:45,150
So wonderful to be in front of you.

2825
03:37:45,930 --> 03:37:48,110
I have just a few slides.

2826
03:37:48,110 --> 03:37:58,270
and just wanted to first of all thank you for allowing us to consider this other option that we're

2827
03:37:58,270 --> 03:38:04,750
looking at right now. I think it's looking pretty good for more and we would like to

2828
03:38:04,750 --> 03:38:10,410
it's looking better and better and that is why we're spending the time and asking for your time

2829
03:38:10,410 --> 03:38:17,750
for your consideration on this. So I know last time we were generally in agreement on a lot of things

2830
03:38:17,750 --> 03:38:20,270
There were a couple of things that just needed to be AWS.

2831
03:38:20,430 --> 03:38:28,210
So we needed to clean up our PDD, it was too cumbersome and too many options.

2832
03:38:28,810 --> 03:38:31,270
So I would just address where we're at.

2833
03:38:32,230 --> 03:38:34,570
I have, I'll show if we can launch there you go.

2834
03:38:34,770 --> 03:38:36,250
Great, I'm going to steal the

2835
03:38:41,500 --> 03:38:41,620
perfect.

2836
03:38:41,720 --> 03:38:42,420
Thank you.

2837
03:38:42,900 --> 03:38:44,820
All right, so this is perfect.

2838
03:38:46,220 --> 03:38:47,640
All right, so,

2839
03:38:51,220 --> 03:38:52,900
right now, there you go.

2840
03:38:54,780 --> 03:39:01,580
So I wanted to address Council's comments first and basically what we heard was that we needed

2841
03:39:01,580 --> 03:39:08,000
to clean up the PDD. There was preference for the original plan, which is the ingress

2842
03:39:08,000 --> 03:39:17,980
Egress on Sawyer. We had presented the two plans. And Councilor Merch has had a very good

2843
03:39:17,980 --> 03:39:25,140
point that ultimately everything is going to turn right on Bandera so are concerned with

2844
03:39:25,140 --> 03:39:30,200
the routing the traffic down to pause so that we can hit that intersection really was not

2845
03:39:30,200 --> 03:39:34,460
legitimate from a long term perspective. So this actually makes everyone's life so much easier

2846
03:39:34,460 --> 03:39:47,680
we don't need any easements for that purpose and in terms of the buffer lane you wanted us to

2847
03:39:47,680 --> 03:39:53,720
And we talked about the mitigation fee that you thought we were on the low side.

2848
03:39:54,380 --> 03:39:59,360
And there was still one unresolved item which has to do with the sewer and water easement

2849
03:39:59,360 --> 03:40:02,560
from Chris Cross to the property line, if required.

2850
03:40:02,860 --> 03:40:06,980
We'll talk about why we're asking about this maybe some assistance.

2851
03:40:07,480 --> 03:40:10,620
And I'll see we do not think this may be required but just in case.

2852
03:40:11,620 --> 03:40:11,760
All right.

2853
03:40:11,760 --> 03:40:17,120
So we did clean up the PDD, what you'll see in front of you is a clean version.

2854
03:40:18,140 --> 03:40:21,200
There's only one site plan, one fire plan.

2855
03:40:21,920 --> 03:40:24,520
And again, I would like to remind you of a couple of things.

2856
03:40:24,640 --> 03:40:32,220
When it comes to this stage in the game, when we look at the zoning process, the zoning process

2857
03:40:32,220 --> 03:40:34,880
is not final construction plans.

2858
03:40:35,860 --> 03:40:44,040
It's mainly us providing a conceptual plan and many people actually just draw that by hand.

2859
03:40:45,040 --> 03:40:50,740
Now, in this particular case because it's a PDD, we put more meat to it and we will say,

2860
03:40:51,060 --> 03:40:53,360
well, we're going to do this dimension and this dimension.

2861
03:40:54,080 --> 03:40:57,320
Ultimately, this is not a proven construction plan.

2862
03:40:58,140 --> 03:41:01,260
Meaning, you're not approving us here to deviate from the code,

2863
03:41:01,260 --> 03:41:05,940
not from the city code, not from the international fire code.

2864
03:41:07,240 --> 03:41:12,060
When there are comments on a conceptual plan from the fire chief, we take them very seriously.

2865
03:41:12,600 --> 03:41:16,540
We know we will have to address them upon a bond construction planning.

2866
03:41:16,900 --> 03:41:17,640
They must be addressed.

2867
03:41:18,560 --> 03:41:22,400
And there is nothing in this plan that's so unique that we cannot address them.

2868
03:41:22,580 --> 03:41:23,840
This is a very standard plan.

2869
03:41:25,240 --> 03:41:30,120
So on that note, I just wanted to make sure that when people are asking the question

2870
03:41:30,120 --> 03:41:36,820
on particular element, detail, detail, element, and a conceptual plan, that's what it is.

2871
03:41:37,000 --> 03:41:37,660
It's a conceptual plan.

2872
03:41:37,900 --> 03:41:38,940
Just please remember that.

2873
03:41:41,340 --> 03:41:44,940
And in terms of the inclusion of buffer, we talked about this.

2874
03:41:45,640 --> 03:41:47,820
We also addressed the mitigation fee.

2875
03:41:48,220 --> 03:41:49,920
I will dig a little bit deeper.

2876
03:41:50,060 --> 03:41:51,220
I have one slide on that.

2877
03:41:51,440 --> 03:41:54,160
And I will also talk about the soren water easement.

2878
03:41:55,440 --> 03:41:55,560
All right.

2879
03:41:55,880 --> 03:41:59,500
So there was a question on what these lines are.

2880
03:41:59,500 --> 03:42:12,780
There was a comment from the city engineer that I agree with, that the, maybe the parking lane is not essential, so that we would force people to park on one side of the seat or the other.

2881
03:42:13,100 --> 03:42:20,160
This is a conceptual plan, if the preference is not to have it, that's fine. We just won't throw those lines. It's all good.

2882
03:42:20,880 --> 03:42:26,760
In terms of, you know, again, these lines, they were meant to say that you cannot park on the second parking area.

2883
03:42:28,220 --> 03:42:41,800
And for these right-of-ways, we do have a standard 38 foot, that's what we had also in the triangle.

2884
03:42:42,300 --> 03:42:45,020
I believe it was even smaller than that.

2885
03:42:45,720 --> 03:42:54,980
So this actually gives us a 20 foot plus 28 foot pavement plus 8 feet for,

2886
03:42:55,560 --> 03:43:00,880
We did actually have a cross section in one of our previous presentations, so I apologize.

2887
03:43:01,520 --> 03:43:04,980
I didn't include it. We did receive the comments last Thursday.

2888
03:43:06,140 --> 03:43:11,060
So we didn't have a lot of time to actually adjust or, so I was dealing with the engineers

2889
03:43:11,060 --> 03:43:14,440
on R and to see if there was anything that needed to be addressed immediately.

2890
03:43:14,880 --> 03:43:18,740
I think we're everything that was suggested is fair.

2891
03:43:19,020 --> 03:43:22,600
With the exception of a couple of things I wanted to address.

2892
03:43:22,600 --> 03:43:26,060
So, yeah, we can definitely remove the parking main, no issue.

2893
03:43:26,660 --> 03:43:29,460
The fire chiefs, all this comments will be addressed

2894
03:43:29,460 --> 03:43:30,800
at construction planning.

2895
03:43:31,520 --> 03:43:35,340
We never had an issue with any of his suggestions in the past.

2896
03:43:37,260 --> 03:43:42,360
On the buffer again, so we're moving all of this inside.

2897
03:43:43,400 --> 03:43:45,960
So, we are the ones that are cading in this case.

2898
03:43:46,920 --> 03:43:51,000
The two mitigation, we went from 25,000 to 50,000.

2899
03:43:51,720 --> 03:43:55,200
with the, I wanted to highlight a couple of things.

2900
03:43:55,760 --> 03:44:00,580
The current PDD already has provisions for three preservation.

2901
03:44:00,800 --> 03:44:04,480
We're allowed to cut trees, as it stands right now, with the current PDD.

2902
03:44:05,660 --> 03:44:09,060
So, this PDD has that provision in it already.

2903
03:44:10,060 --> 03:44:13,620
Now, what we didn't have in this PDD is just capping the amount.

2904
03:44:15,240 --> 03:44:18,140
Right, so please understand, this is not a deviation from,

2905
03:44:18,140 --> 03:44:25,240
And it's deviation from the code, but that deviation was already allowed as part of our

2906
03:44:25,240 --> 03:44:27,020
current PDD, which we are amending.

2907
03:44:27,900 --> 03:44:34,020
So our saying is, what we didn't have was the cap, and we need that cap to be able to

2908
03:44:34,020 --> 03:44:37,900
finalize our numbers, and we need our cap also for financing purposes.

2909
03:44:39,340 --> 03:44:41,840
So we're asking for your consideration.

2910
03:44:41,840 --> 03:44:49,700
we are replanting 150 trees. This particular property has 87% of the trees

2911
03:44:50,240 --> 03:44:58,280
that are invasive trees. Now I know, fair enough, I'm not going to, we're just replacing

2912
03:44:58,280 --> 03:44:59,480
was native.

2913
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:14,400
Non-invasive fees. That's it. And we will have 150 of those. We also expanded the green areas. I'm not sure if you noticed. Let me just go back to this plan. We did quick.

2914
03:45:15,140 --> 03:45:24,780
We added this here, originally it was going to be more. We had a couple more. Why is this showing?

2915
03:45:26,530 --> 03:45:32,830
Yeah, so we expanded this here. We have different versions when that's 72 and 174.

2916
03:45:33,510 --> 03:45:38,750
But effectively, the 10 percent, when I do as the 10 percent, the 10 percent is in your code,

2917
03:45:39,310 --> 03:45:45,650
meaning we can go up or down by 10 percent. If it's 72 or 74, we will not be exceeding that anyways.

2918
03:45:46,110 --> 03:45:49,670
We don't believe we will go beyond 74, we don't have room for it.

2919
03:45:49,670 --> 03:45:57,070
But we did expand this green space, and we basically,

2920
03:45:58,070 --> 03:46:00,690
what else do I have to say here?

2921
03:46:00,970 --> 03:46:06,950
Honestly, not much else, we're just basically meeting you halfway on the cap.

2922
03:46:08,030 --> 03:46:12,610
I believe considering the hit we're taking on the reduction in density,

2923
03:46:13,250 --> 03:46:17,850
and the fact that our horizontal cost is not going to be much different

2924
03:46:19,070 --> 03:46:25,290
from 165 lbs down to 74 lbs. We're just asking for a consideration on cost, that's all.

2925
03:46:27,930 --> 03:46:32,590
Next is addressing the staff and the engineer and fire marshal comments.

2926
03:46:37,200 --> 03:46:40,580
Yeah, so basically everything we're asking for is simply to allow us to do the last density.

2927
03:46:41,420 --> 03:46:43,540
That's it. You know, to allow us to control the cost.

2928
03:46:44,160 --> 03:46:47,920
In terms of the driveways, the buffer lane, again we're absorbing that.

2929
03:46:47,920 --> 03:46:49,840
should mitigate the risk there.

2930
03:46:50,520 --> 03:46:52,740
The dream mitigation, I just talked about it.

2931
03:46:53,200 --> 03:46:54,280
Side plan is conceptual.

2932
03:46:54,740 --> 03:46:55,800
Again, I address that.

2933
03:46:55,960 --> 03:46:58,380
We will have to comply with all the code.

2934
03:46:58,700 --> 03:47:00,460
We will have to comply with the IFC.

2935
03:47:01,040 --> 03:47:04,000
The 10% does not have to be spelled out in our PDD,

2936
03:47:04,200 --> 03:47:05,760
because it's already part of your code.

2937
03:47:06,140 --> 03:47:09,960
In terms of the recommendation to not exceed 10%

2938
03:47:09,960 --> 03:47:11,220
without coming to council.

2939
03:47:12,620 --> 03:47:14,760
The base zoning, we have addressed that last time

2940
03:47:14,760 --> 03:47:17,140
of the city attorney,

2941
03:47:20,180 --> 03:47:21,280
yeah, it's all good.

2942
03:47:21,860 --> 03:47:24,240
So, side plan will be varied upon

2943
03:47:24,240 --> 03:47:26,560
plating and final construction.

2944
03:47:27,500 --> 03:47:29,780
It'll be very slightly to be able to accommodate

2945
03:47:29,780 --> 03:47:32,120
engineering comments and requirements

2946
03:47:33,260 --> 03:47:34,760
for mainly for detention.

2947
03:47:35,300 --> 03:47:37,580
And that typically happens at plating time.

2948
03:47:38,200 --> 03:47:40,860
So, there will be minor modifications or a finement

2949
03:47:40,860 --> 03:47:44,020
who will address a lot of these issues at that point in time.

2950
03:47:44,020 --> 03:47:48,340
just like we would have with the townhouses, exact same process.

2951
03:47:48,860 --> 03:47:51,800
What you saw in the townhouses was of conceptual than.

2952
03:47:52,120 --> 03:47:58,640
That's all it was. There was no real meat to it until you have

2953
03:47:58,640 --> 03:48:05,660
a minute. Yeah, I'm done. So yeah, so I just want to address the water and sewer easements.

2954
03:48:05,840 --> 03:48:12,480
So you understand what we're talking about. So this is the property. This is the soil road.

2955
03:48:12,480 --> 03:48:20,640
the closest sewer connection is by the bowling center, and so we will have to

2956
03:48:20,640 --> 03:48:25,720
transfer all the way down, and the topo, in this case, will mean that we will be going

2957
03:48:25,720 --> 03:48:27,180
against the topo for sewer.

2958
03:48:27,900 --> 03:48:28,500
That's not a good thing.

2959
03:48:28,660 --> 03:48:31,740
I guess the topo of the topo is the topo is the topo of anything.

2960
03:48:31,920 --> 03:48:34,760
So, meaning we'll be climbing up, which is not a good thing.

2961
03:48:35,840 --> 03:48:40,460
So, that is why we need this connection here.

2962
03:48:40,460 --> 03:48:46,980
So let me just, this is Chris Cross, again, we're not exiting Chris Cross, this is strictly

2963
03:48:46,980 --> 03:48:51,740
because that's whether utilities are, there's a sewer hole, I will show you here in a second,

2964
03:48:52,080 --> 03:48:54,080
and there's a water connection right there.

2965
03:48:55,060 --> 03:49:01,820
So that's the property next door, this is the fence location on this property and this

2966
03:49:01,820 --> 03:49:08,220
is what potentially be the property line, we don't believe that to be true, but this is relevant

2967
03:49:08,220 --> 03:49:16,280
because, as you look at that area, it looks like this, currently, the fence goes like this.

2968
03:49:16,480 --> 03:49:25,360
Chris Cross, this is our fence. This is the, so you look at, if this was their property line,

2969
03:49:25,640 --> 03:49:30,900
then we will need just to be able to cross this way. And if it's not, we're totally fine.

2970
03:49:31,420 --> 03:49:35,180
Because I believe they've put the fence right at what they believe was their property line.

2971
03:49:35,180 --> 03:49:49,500
We are working on this, we just didn't have answers yet, but what we're asking you for is in case we need an assessment to be able to just punch through that we will help us, that city will help us get that.

2972
03:49:49,540 --> 03:50:02,800
Just in case we are not being accommodated by either side, this could go either way, we can go this way and up or we can go north and up and sideways.

2973
03:50:02,800 --> 03:50:16,620
So that's basically, this is where the sewer line is, this is where the water line is, and if we have our 10 feet here, this is perfect, this is the illustration of what that looks like, real time.

2974
03:50:17,600 --> 03:50:21,720
So we could, if this is ours, which, this is, this is our property right there.

2975
03:50:22,200 --> 03:50:23,700
We don't believe we need it.

2976
03:50:23,980 --> 03:50:26,380
We can just punch through from there.

2977
03:50:26,880 --> 03:50:31,160
But if we do, we'll come to you and we hope that you will help us get it.

2978
03:50:31,320 --> 03:50:34,960
I just wanted to ask the city manager, what are the implications of that?

2979
03:50:35,000 --> 03:50:37,820
What's the cost if we have to assume?

2980
03:50:38,860 --> 03:50:42,860
We will assume the cost, all you guys have to do is just secure it for us, that's all.

2981
03:50:42,980 --> 03:50:43,880
Secure it?

2982
03:50:45,000 --> 03:50:45,280
I don't know.

2983
03:50:45,660 --> 03:50:47,760
I don't know.

2984
03:50:48,180 --> 03:50:50,160
David, do you want to weigh in on that?

2985
03:50:50,640 --> 03:50:50,680
Yeah.

2986
03:50:50,680 --> 03:50:51,340
I don't know.

2987
03:50:51,880 --> 03:50:52,380
I don't know.

2988
03:50:52,380 --> 03:50:53,780
David, do you want to weigh in on that?

2989
03:50:53,780 --> 03:50:59,660
on that component and so if you don't remember that advice that's up to you whether or not you

2990
03:50:59,660 --> 03:51:07,820
want to go in the executive session and hear that advice. So I'm going to tell you is it's

2991
03:51:07,820 --> 03:51:11,040
a conversation you can't have, you can take on the responsibility or you don't have to take

2992
03:51:11,040 --> 03:51:15,180
on the responsibility. Okay, do you want to go back into the executive session?

2993
03:51:18,000 --> 03:51:19,370
I mean, I don't

2994
03:51:22,250 --> 03:51:35,710
I just wanted to add something real quick, if I may, I just saw this this afternoon, so that's a dead end water main, so we would recommend that you would tie in to Sawyer and not at that location.

2995
03:51:40,510 --> 03:51:44,630
So I'll explain what we're asking for before you go away.

2996
03:51:44,630 --> 03:51:53,750
So we can trench from all the way from that's the other option.

2997
03:51:55,750 --> 03:52:00,070
But it's not the clean solution for anybody.

2998
03:52:00,710 --> 03:52:02,790
The clean solution is for us literally.

2999
03:52:02,990 --> 03:52:04,330
I'll show you what we're talking about.

3000
03:52:05,710 --> 03:52:08,690
This here, we're not going to do the water.

3001
03:52:09,370 --> 03:52:11,030
We'll pull the water from the soil.

3002
03:52:11,030 --> 03:52:15,930
The sewer is 29 feet going this way to that quarter.

3003
03:52:16,790 --> 03:52:20,970
If we need an easement, we need an easement for less than 5 feet.

3004
03:52:21,390 --> 03:52:24,070
To be able to cross if we do.

3005
03:52:24,390 --> 03:52:27,370
To be able to cross from Chris Cross to our property.

3006
03:52:27,810 --> 03:52:28,410
That's all we need.

3007
03:52:28,970 --> 03:52:31,870
Now, we could do it again.

3008
03:52:32,310 --> 03:52:34,290
Through this property or through that property.

3009
03:52:35,310 --> 03:52:37,350
As developers, you need to understand something

3010
03:52:37,350 --> 03:52:41,350
why we would typically rely on our municipal partner

3011
03:52:41,350 --> 03:52:44,710
to do this, that five feet that we will need

3012
03:52:44,710 --> 03:52:47,630
is because the city has substantially more influence

3013
03:52:48,370 --> 03:52:50,330
and can exercise, I mean, in domain.

3014
03:52:50,950 --> 03:52:55,250
That's what we've done for the Seneca West property.

3015
03:52:56,250 --> 03:52:57,970
I know, but that was a very different story.

3016
03:52:58,110 --> 03:53:00,390
I was substantially more elaborate.

3017
03:53:01,450 --> 03:53:04,070
And in this case, we abandoned the idea of exiting

3018
03:53:04,070 --> 03:53:06,190
onto cross cross, because we knew

3019
03:53:06,190 --> 03:53:11,870
could potentially be a problem, but for the sewer, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a

3020
03:53:11,870 --> 03:53:16,750
citizen recommendation that we tie into this sewer, just so we, we all know that.

3021
03:53:18,290 --> 03:53:22,170
And from a legal perspective, from what the attorney told you, you're not, I'm not telling

3022
03:53:22,170 --> 03:53:25,130
you not to, I'm not telling you that's a bad idea. I'm not telling you any of that. I'm just

3023
03:53:25,130 --> 03:53:31,670
telling you not, you have no obligation to provide him, he's an act that, that's his responsibility.

3024
03:53:32,050 --> 03:53:35,770
Now I'm not saying that that, that you shouldn't, I'm not saying any of that. I'm just

3025
03:53:35,770 --> 03:53:42,930
telling you the attorneys advise an executive session to y'all with you can you don't you can

3026
03:53:42,930 --> 03:53:47,810
and or you don't have to but if you want to get into the details of all of that you're going

3027
03:53:47,810 --> 03:53:53,010
to have to go and executive session have that conversation with him if that's even if that's

3028
03:53:53,010 --> 03:53:53,270
even

3029
03:54:00,020 --> 03:54:03,380
if that's even if that's exactly if that's exactly if that's exactly if you're okay with

3030
03:54:03,380 --> 03:54:06,940
everything else you think will you have a need to have a question

3031
03:54:13,440 --> 03:54:15,480
so just in case you are

3032
03:54:15,480 --> 03:54:17,720
OK, with everything else, what we're saying is that five

3033
03:54:17,720 --> 03:54:20,100
foot that we will need were happy to pay for it.

3034
03:54:20,100 --> 03:54:21,400
It can go either way.

3035
03:54:21,620 --> 03:54:23,980
We do not envision a problem, but it's

3036
03:54:23,980 --> 03:54:27,880
typical that we work with our municipal partner,

3037
03:54:28,400 --> 03:54:31,600
especially as we are having, we're making substantial

3038
03:54:31,600 --> 03:54:34,840
concessions on density, that if we need that connection

3039
03:54:34,840 --> 03:54:38,020
that five foot connection and we are having resistance,

3040
03:54:38,700 --> 03:54:41,160
that this city would just help us with securing it

3041
03:54:41,160 --> 03:54:42,000
will pay for it.

3042
03:54:42,200 --> 03:54:42,600
That's all.

3043
03:54:42,980 --> 03:54:44,860
And yes, you don't have to do it.

3044
03:54:44,860 --> 03:54:48,400
we never said that this is an obligation on behalf of the city,

3045
03:54:48,760 --> 03:54:51,720
we'll just ask you for your help to make it happen.

3046
03:54:52,020 --> 03:54:55,080
And we would very much appreciate your consideration on that.

3047
03:54:55,220 --> 03:54:56,580
If needed, that's all.

3048
03:54:56,800 --> 03:55:00,500
And did you ever answer the question that the engineer asked about the parking?

3049
03:55:01,060 --> 03:55:02,620
Oh, I don't believe that.

3050
03:55:02,680 --> 03:55:04,940
I didn't, I didn't honestly understand that.

3051
03:55:04,960 --> 03:55:07,780
But they said to per household or to per.

3052
03:55:09,280 --> 03:55:13,120
So, so it says the off-street requirement is

3053
03:55:13,120 --> 03:55:22,020
for two cars off-sweet parking, and each house has a dog garage, and it has a bad for two cars.

3054
03:55:22,340 --> 03:55:29,640
So we have four cars off-sweet parking by house.

3055
03:55:29,820 --> 03:55:30,560
Per house?

3056
03:55:30,940 --> 03:55:35,020
Yeah, so to inside, to outside, so I'm sorry.

3057
03:55:35,140 --> 03:55:37,640
I didn't understand why two for the whole development.

3058
03:55:39,300 --> 03:55:42,360
I'm not sure if they can explain what that was all about.

3059
03:55:43,120 --> 03:55:45,000
Okay, so what's the pleasure of the council?

3060
03:55:48,350 --> 03:55:53,790
Rick, did you have a explanation, is it?

3061
03:55:53,790 --> 03:55:56,770
Yes, we were just asking for clarification on that one line.

3062
03:55:56,930 --> 03:56:02,010
I think he said two per unit, two per house.

3063
03:56:02,490 --> 03:56:09,030
So two plus two is four, two inside the garage and two outside the garage, is that what I'm hearing?

3064
03:56:09,830 --> 03:56:11,450
Okay, that was a clear question.

3065
03:56:11,650 --> 03:56:12,890
Yes, Councillor Merch.

3066
03:56:13,670 --> 03:56:14,730
I have a question.

3067
03:56:14,730 --> 03:56:29,130
So, he wants to retain the PDD that's already been approved for the R3 housing and then get this PDD for the R6 housing also approved.

3068
03:56:29,830 --> 03:56:40,890
What does that look like? What does that mean we're allowing him to do if we're looking at this plan and this plan, but we're ultimately giving him the opportunity to mix match.

3069
03:56:41,590 --> 03:56:46,730
You can't mix, mix, match, y'all are voting on two individual conceptual plans.

3070
03:56:47,510 --> 03:56:52,850
So essentially what you would do is y'all would vote on his original request,

3071
03:56:53,070 --> 03:56:58,430
which is the R3 zoning with this R6 use with this conceptual plan.

3072
03:56:58,450 --> 03:57:02,970
So your motion would be that you're accepting his, you're already accepted his R6.

3073
03:57:03,010 --> 03:57:06,110
So this will be just an R. If you do it that way, you don't have to.

3074
03:57:06,230 --> 03:57:09,050
You can say we don't want to do, we don't want you to have the R3,

3075
03:57:09,050 --> 03:57:16,310
we only want to do, we are three, you've already accepted his R3, that's already approved.

3076
03:57:16,910 --> 03:57:24,790
This R6 plan, what he's asking you to do is keep his R3, you're just accepting this R6

3077
03:57:24,790 --> 03:57:30,650
use as part of that original R3. So you're giving him permission to do either the first conceptual

3078
03:57:30,650 --> 03:57:36,670
plan or the second conceptual plan. That is his request. Now you can come back and say, we want

3079
03:57:36,670 --> 03:57:38,490
We don't want to do the R3.

3080
03:57:38,710 --> 03:57:42,390
We only want the R6, then it's up to him whether or not he keeps the request.

3081
03:57:42,550 --> 03:57:48,810
He can withdraw his request, which he said that he would do if you all tried to just vote on the R6 plan.

3082
03:57:49,410 --> 03:57:52,990
So, that is a council decision on what you all want to do.

3083
03:57:53,090 --> 03:58:03,230
But his request is that he keeps the R6 and the R6 conceptual plan with this R3 use in this plan as well.

3084
03:58:03,230 --> 03:58:12,930
And so the way the motion would be, and I have to double check with art, but the way it would be is we're keeping his original R3 with this R6 use and conceptual plan.

3085
03:58:13,250 --> 03:58:15,810
And then whatever you have is part of this conceptual plan.

3086
03:58:16,070 --> 03:58:23,690
So if you want to make sure he addresses the fire, you can make the motion to ensure that he addresses the fire, comments, codes, that kind of thing.

3087
03:58:23,890 --> 03:58:30,910
Which is typical. He's right. We wouldn't approve the plan without him being able to come up with the solution for those.

3088
03:58:30,910 --> 03:58:33,390
but in order to satisfy the council,

3089
03:58:33,630 --> 03:58:35,810
you can make your motion to be very specific.

3090
03:58:37,630 --> 03:58:38,950
So that's what he's requesting.

3091
03:58:39,030 --> 03:58:40,510
He's requesting both.

3092
03:58:41,010 --> 03:58:42,790
And so you have the ability as a council

3093
03:58:42,790 --> 03:58:43,730
to give him both.

3094
03:58:44,050 --> 03:58:44,850
You don't have to.

3095
03:58:44,990 --> 03:58:46,190
You can just say,

3096
03:58:46,190 --> 03:58:47,530
nope, we're denying this request.

3097
03:58:47,790 --> 03:58:49,310
He stays with his original

3098
03:58:50,610 --> 03:58:55,390
arts theory plan and he just moves on with that.

3099
03:58:55,590 --> 03:58:57,850
Or you agree to this plan, he has both.

3100
03:58:57,970 --> 03:58:59,730
Or you try to just go for the R3

3101
03:58:59,730 --> 03:59:05,590
it's up to him whether or not he wants to, I'm sorry, this R6, Bay Zoning and then he goes

3102
03:59:05,590 --> 03:59:05,870
away.

3103
03:59:06,110 --> 03:59:12,850
What lives with the plan though is after 24 months if he's unable to break ground, his original

3104
03:59:12,850 --> 03:59:14,370
plan goes away.

3105
03:59:14,950 --> 03:59:18,070
But it keeps the original R3 base zoning.

3106
03:59:20,310 --> 03:59:21,170
That makes sense.

3107
03:59:21,390 --> 03:59:27,070
That means whatever goes along with an R3 which includes apartments could also be a concept

3108
03:59:27,070 --> 03:59:28,470
for that as well.

3109
03:59:28,470 --> 03:59:38,110
and so it's just making sure y'all understand possible outcomes of what could conclude based on your road.

3110
03:59:39,250 --> 03:59:42,070
Right, I would like to clarify a couple of things.

3111
03:59:43,810 --> 03:59:45,810
Again, go back to square one.

3112
03:59:46,690 --> 03:59:49,610
We can go ahead today and build townhouses.

3113
03:59:51,210 --> 03:59:56,170
And we did the numbers and townhouses would be a fantastic project for us,

3114
03:59:56,290 --> 03:59:57,550
but they'd have to be for rent.

3115
03:59:57,550 --> 03:59:59,970
Alright, so we...

3116
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:10,260
We have been in front of you. When you granted us the townhouse approval, you did not grant us that townhouse approval for rentals.

3117
04:00:11,100 --> 04:00:17,060
You granted it to us because we told you it's going to be a great development and it's going to be beautiful. We're going to have four stories.

3118
04:00:17,460 --> 04:00:27,560
We're going to have rooftop barriers. And that's the vision that you have that we sold you on. And we did not want to deceive what we promised.

3119
04:00:27,560 --> 04:00:36,760
So we know the numbers will work extremely well for a rental setup, as it stands right now.

3120
04:00:38,400 --> 04:00:45,720
We decided we will evaluate this other option, which is the option for single family, right?

3121
04:00:45,840 --> 04:00:50,860
And we would drop from 165 townhouses down to 74.

3122
04:00:52,600 --> 04:00:58,240
And in order for us to be able to do that, we need certain variances to accommodate

3123
04:00:58,240 --> 04:00:59,980
only that massive loss.

3124
04:01:02,540 --> 04:01:08,300
So why the R3 and I, it sounds very technical, but currently we're approved for R3 based

3125
04:01:08,300 --> 04:01:08,660
zoning.

3126
04:01:09,460 --> 04:01:14,100
We're not going to give up this until, but the moment we decide, okay, we're going to build

3127
04:01:14,100 --> 04:01:15,800
the R6, there's no return.

3128
04:01:16,600 --> 04:01:16,980
That's it.

3129
04:01:16,980 --> 04:01:19,100
and the R6 is sitting there.

3130
04:01:19,200 --> 04:01:21,480
We can build the homes and then they said,

3131
04:01:21,820 --> 04:01:22,900
oh, okay, we still have R3,

3132
04:01:23,420 --> 04:01:25,760
that base on and goes away, right?

3133
04:01:26,500 --> 04:01:28,260
The reason why we're asking for it

3134
04:01:28,260 --> 04:01:31,480
is not to be cute, it's not to be to outsmart,

3135
04:01:31,880 --> 04:01:33,440
not like that at all, it's just,

3136
04:01:33,480 --> 04:01:37,280
because we need it in case the numbers don't work out.

3137
04:01:37,460 --> 04:01:39,420
The financing doesn't come through.

3138
04:01:40,320 --> 04:01:43,940
So, so that we are able to just get that flexibility

3139
04:01:45,240 --> 04:01:49,740
If the numbers don't work out, we go back to original data, which we can build today, anyways.

3140
04:01:50,680 --> 04:01:51,660
So we're not playing games.

3141
04:01:52,200 --> 04:01:57,260
But we're asking for is to please allow us a chance to evaluate this option more seriously.

3142
04:01:57,540 --> 04:01:59,000
We're about 80% there.

3143
04:01:59,360 --> 04:02:01,440
I believe we will push through it.

3144
04:02:01,780 --> 04:02:04,040
But we still need the 20% is still there.

3145
04:02:04,380 --> 04:02:07,360
And we need to keep our base zoning as it is.

3146
04:02:07,860 --> 04:02:10,200
It's by the way, it's been done before.

3147
04:02:10,200 --> 04:02:18,280
the bus property in 2021 when because we own this other property in next door. In fact, I'll talk about this in a second.

3148
04:02:19,180 --> 04:02:33,680
So when we did that, we had base zoning of B2, which is retail. And we were approved for townhouses and apartments and one storefront in the front.

3149
04:02:33,680 --> 04:02:39,020
mixed to it's basically. So it's not like it cannot be done where you have one based

3150
04:02:39,020 --> 04:02:45,280
zoning and that's what PDDs are for is to create the flexibility to negotiate all together

3151
04:02:45,280 --> 04:02:52,920
to come up with a solution that works. PDD also allows for tree variances embedded in there

3152
04:02:54,040 --> 04:02:59,560
because how can we build a plan without being able to cut the trees? Like you know it doesn't

3153
04:02:59,560 --> 04:03:08,700
So you can't just approve one piece and leave the other piece hanging there because that will not allow us to move on, right?

3154
04:03:09,480 --> 04:03:15,020
So if we're going to come back and you guys can say, you know, two months later, if you want to say, okay, yeah, we'll allow you to do that.

3155
04:03:15,080 --> 04:03:16,880
What's the point? Why not do it all that once?

3156
04:03:17,600 --> 04:03:24,640
So there's nothing that we are asking for that we believe is outlanders or believe is cute or deceiving.

3157
04:03:24,640 --> 04:03:31,820
All we're asking for is your blessings to be able to proceed with evaluating and executing the stand effort towards.

3158
04:03:32,640 --> 04:03:34,500
That's a happy to answer any questions.

3159
04:03:38,050 --> 04:03:39,950
Yes, Councillor Roscoe.

3160
04:03:40,110 --> 04:03:42,800
Yes, I don't believe that you're trying to deceive us in any way.

3161
04:03:43,490 --> 04:03:47,670
I know, as I had mentioned before, we know that you're a businessman,

3162
04:03:48,010 --> 04:03:50,630
and you've got to try to get the best deal for your organization.

3163
04:03:50,630 --> 04:03:52,190
I totally understand that.

3164
04:03:52,190 --> 04:04:03,170
And I'm okay with the R3 or R6, then we work out another plan like that, and you're previous endeavors that we had in the El Valley, right?

3165
04:04:03,650 --> 04:04:07,430
So it worked out well, and you gave us half.

3166
04:04:08,910 --> 04:04:09,630
The three mitigation.

3167
04:04:11,850 --> 04:04:13,730
You know, I've always given you a big break.

3168
04:04:13,890 --> 04:04:15,290
We have always given you a break.

3169
04:04:16,070 --> 04:04:18,450
A set of the 50,000 will you consider 70,000?

3170
04:04:18,750 --> 04:04:19,050
Yes.

3171
04:04:20,770 --> 04:04:21,090
Okay.

3172
04:04:21,530 --> 04:04:22,170
That's it.

3173
04:04:22,170 --> 04:04:27,530
wasn't easy don't think oh I could have asked him for ninety I knew you were going to ask me for seventy

3174
04:04:27,530 --> 04:04:29,230
I was going to ask you for eighty

3175
04:04:29,230 --> 04:04:29,570
Yes

3176
04:04:30,110 --> 04:04:35,170
No the reason I'll tell you I'll tell you why I'll tell you why it wasn't quick response

3177
04:04:35,570 --> 04:04:37,170
We're not going to nickel in that end time

3178
04:04:37,830 --> 04:04:40,430
We're here as good partners we've always been here as good partners

3179
04:04:40,850 --> 04:04:46,810
We're not going to nickel and dam on twenty thousand you know it's supposed to be ninety six thousand we appreciate the twenty six thousand

3180
04:04:47,950 --> 04:04:55,610
consideration. We will never block on kindness. So we would definitely proceed.

3181
04:04:55,850 --> 04:05:02,490
I mentioned for the ask us, you know, not only, I know you're playing 150 trees, but we also may be using that money to plant trees.

3182
04:05:04,050 --> 04:05:08,850
And so, if you can move the 50,000 to 70,000, which you consider that?

3183
04:05:08,870 --> 04:05:09,210
Yes.

3184
04:05:10,530 --> 04:05:10,770
Okay.

3185
04:05:11,210 --> 04:05:13,750
I don't know what the other colleagues are thinking.

3186
04:05:13,750 --> 04:05:18,290
but that was my concern also the only thing that I'm worried about was any kind of a

3187
04:05:18,290 --> 04:05:25,270
variance is it reverting back to the townhouses and then all of a sudden I mean I

3188
04:05:25,270 --> 04:05:31,610
can see making an allowance if you're going to go from 150 units to 72 I can see

3189
04:05:31,610 --> 04:05:37,790
cutting you some slack because I understand that you are losing money I do get that but if

3190
04:05:37,790 --> 04:05:44,230
we say yes and it goes back, then the city does without because of that. You know what I mean?

3191
04:05:44,410 --> 04:05:49,710
It's kind of, I wish we knew what exactly we were going to be voting for if it was going

3192
04:05:49,710 --> 04:05:55,050
to be a townhouses or a single family home before we agreed to anything else.

3193
04:05:55,530 --> 04:06:04,670
Okay, let me clarify that this particular concession only applies the way we asked for it

3194
04:06:04,670 --> 04:06:07,310
if we were to proceed with the single family.

3195
04:06:08,610 --> 04:06:09,510
So please, yeah.

3196
04:06:09,950 --> 04:06:11,330
So if you look at our submission,

3197
04:06:11,870 --> 04:06:15,850
it has 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, 4.1, the articles.

3198
04:06:16,730 --> 04:06:19,870
And each one, if we were to proceed with this plan,

3199
04:06:20,590 --> 04:06:22,070
then all the points zeroes apply.

3200
04:06:22,450 --> 04:06:25,730
If we were to proceed with the townhouses,

3201
04:06:26,270 --> 04:06:27,650
all the points zeroes apply.

3202
04:06:28,070 --> 04:06:32,830
If we proceed with the single family, all the points ones apply.

3203
04:06:32,830 --> 04:06:36,630
Because that answer your question, yeah, of course.

3204
04:06:37,490 --> 04:06:38,450
That is a good question now.

3205
04:06:38,790 --> 04:06:41,290
It's just this R3 versus R6.

3206
04:06:41,490 --> 04:06:46,050
It's kind of like, I think all of us would rather have the less density.

3207
04:06:47,230 --> 04:06:49,210
And I would like to share with you.

3208
04:06:49,250 --> 04:06:52,650
I don't have R6, but yet, you know, you're saying,

3209
04:06:52,890 --> 04:06:54,330
No, I have R3.

3210
04:06:55,550 --> 04:07:00,030
For financing or, you know, no, no.

3211
04:07:00,030 --> 04:07:00,830
The fifth one.

3212
04:07:01,090 --> 04:07:02,230
I repeat, why would be.

3213
04:07:02,330 --> 04:07:02,770
Rentals.

3214
04:07:03,730 --> 04:07:05,950
But you know, what, you could have already done it, right?

3215
04:07:06,570 --> 04:07:08,190
I could, I could, I could go ahead and do it, I don't need.

3216
04:07:08,190 --> 04:07:08,990
So I, I don't know.

3217
04:07:08,990 --> 04:07:09,450
I don't know.

3218
04:07:09,790 --> 04:07:10,570
I don't know.

3219
04:07:10,750 --> 04:07:12,110
I don't know.

3220
04:07:12,110 --> 04:07:18,410
So we're putting the time and effort into our six because we're about, you know, when

3221
04:07:18,410 --> 04:07:23,150
we came initially, right about 40% sure that's the case.

3222
04:07:23,230 --> 04:07:27,790
As we started conversation, we felt that this is something that everybody likes.

3223
04:07:27,790 --> 04:07:34,390
So we kept on pushing and investing and engineering and you know getting more data and costing and

3224
04:07:34,390 --> 04:07:38,150
And then you know we're so we're moving in the right direction, but we're not dead

3225
04:07:38,150 --> 04:07:44,470
I don't have my financing. I don't have there's so much left in terms of the final decision making

3226
04:07:44,470 --> 04:07:47,550
The question to council is what do you have to lose?

3227
04:07:50,540 --> 04:07:50,940
Yes, Councillor

3228
04:07:52,000 --> 04:07:52,560
Comfort

3229
04:07:53,200 --> 04:07:57,300
Mr. Shawty, I want to apologize that I wasn't here.

3230
04:07:57,320 --> 04:07:58,780
The last of the meeting, please.

3231
04:07:59,780 --> 04:08:05,360
I do want to commend you on the modifications and the things that you, the compromises you

3232
04:08:05,360 --> 04:08:06,040
come up with.

3233
04:08:06,400 --> 04:08:06,680
Thank you.

3234
04:08:07,280 --> 04:08:13,980
We certainly, I think, everyone on this diet, and I'm just going to speak for myself, support

3235
04:08:13,980 --> 04:08:16,820
the less than the sense of development.

3236
04:08:18,070 --> 04:08:30,970
And I'm in favor of this development, but I am concerned by leaving two zoning R3 and R6 that

3237
04:08:30,970 --> 04:08:37,970
let's say you decide that here you're talking to us about low density, but you have both

3238
04:08:37,970 --> 04:08:43,430
options on the table, you sell the property, and I know you haven't done it to us, but we've

3239
04:08:43,430 --> 04:08:50,870
it done and you've pointed it out to me when it has been done and you sell it to a new owner

3240
04:08:50,870 --> 04:08:57,410
and the new owner says, hey, I got both and it's worth more because you've got both zones,

3241
04:08:58,370 --> 04:09:05,570
okay, an R3 and an R6. You do what you want, buddy. I just flipped that property and that's my concern

3242
04:09:06,110 --> 04:09:12,210
that will get into somebody that you flipped this property. It's now, hey, buddy, I got two zones

3243
04:09:12,210 --> 04:09:24,150
Zoning things are three in our six, you decide now the PDD sold to us and I just don't think I'm there

3244
04:09:24,890 --> 04:09:31,550
I think, you know, if there were two zones, I think it would make sense if you had projects that had pieces

3245
04:09:31,550 --> 04:09:39,430
That said this piece was on our three this pieces in our six. I'm happy to answer. I'm happy to answer that once Dr. Caldera

3246
04:09:42,850 --> 04:09:57,470
So you're voting on his plan, so it's not that he gets two zonines, all he'll have is the base zonine, so if he doesn't say all the side, I don't want to deal with this, we're done, he goes back with his original plan and say he doesn't build.

3247
04:09:58,070 --> 04:10:01,250
The only thing that lives on that property is the R3.

3248
04:10:01,410 --> 04:10:03,770
He doesn't get to go and tell somebody else.

3249
04:10:03,950 --> 04:10:05,590
I'm selling it for R3 and R6.

3250
04:10:05,870 --> 04:10:10,730
You're voting on this as an R3 with this R6 use.

3251
04:10:11,050 --> 04:10:12,870
That's how you're voting on it.

3252
04:10:13,190 --> 04:10:14,730
This isn't a separate Bay Zoning.

3253
04:10:14,850 --> 04:10:16,470
You're not giving him two Bay Zoning.

3254
04:10:16,570 --> 04:10:19,070
His Bay Zoning will remain R3.

3255
04:10:21,210 --> 04:10:25,630
What he can do is flip the property or sell it to what he's going to do.

3256
04:10:25,630 --> 04:10:28,950
He's going to sell the property, but he's going to sell it to either somebody that's going

3257
04:10:28,950 --> 04:10:34,670
to do the townhouse plan or somebody that's going to do the R6 plan because the only

3258
04:10:34,670 --> 04:10:37,810
thing they can build there is the conceptual plan you're voting on.

3259
04:10:38,190 --> 04:10:41,950
They can't come build a different R6 or a different R3 plan.

3260
04:10:42,410 --> 04:10:47,930
The only thing that can happen is if they don't break ground on the conceptual plan within

3261
04:10:47,930 --> 04:10:54,150
24 months, then it reverts back to its original base zone, which is R3.

3262
04:10:54,150 --> 04:11:06,910
So, as long as you make your motion to that effect, then that should protect you from the, you can't, you can't say this property is both R6 and R3.

3263
04:11:07,150 --> 04:11:08,090
Like it doesn't work that way.

3264
04:11:08,230 --> 04:11:11,870
You'll make sure that your motion stays with his base zoning, which is R6.

3265
04:11:12,850 --> 04:11:19,890
I just want to come, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

3266
04:11:19,890 --> 04:11:22,850
Now, the base zoning for the properties are three.

3267
04:11:22,950 --> 04:11:26,830
He's requesting an R6 use with this conceptual plan.

3268
04:11:27,350 --> 04:11:28,570
That's what he's asking for.

3269
04:11:28,730 --> 04:11:32,790
He's asking to keep the R3 and give him the R6 use.

3270
04:11:33,290 --> 04:11:36,590
You can make the motion to that effect.

3271
04:11:36,770 --> 04:11:40,470
But he can't go and say, hey, I need to sell this property

3272
04:11:40,470 --> 04:11:42,690
with both an R3 and an R6.

3273
04:11:42,750 --> 04:11:45,550
Now, he can go try to sell both the plans,

3274
04:11:45,910 --> 04:11:47,590
which I assume that that's what he's going to do.

3275
04:11:47,610 --> 04:11:49,250
Well, one, there's an assumption that I'm selling.

3276
04:11:50,030 --> 04:11:52,630
which is interesting assumption.

3277
04:11:53,110 --> 04:11:56,830
Yes, we have sold in the past, but maybe this project we want to take on.

3278
04:11:57,370 --> 04:11:59,110
So the assumption I think is an overreach.

3279
04:12:00,050 --> 04:12:04,970
Now, in terms of, in terms of plus honestly, it's our business.

3280
04:12:05,610 --> 04:12:07,550
We own the land for the developers.

3281
04:12:08,170 --> 04:12:16,930
But at the same time, I actually, I'm seriously considering personally building the townhouses.

3282
04:12:16,930 --> 04:12:24,630
and we are actually talking to a very, very cool concepts that where we can get it up super quick.

3283
04:12:25,230 --> 04:12:32,130
We can get a set of 10 townhouses up in a period of six weeks.

3284
04:12:33,850 --> 04:12:38,110
I know. It sounds an over-fetched, but it's all boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Basically,

3285
04:12:38,250 --> 04:12:45,250
we'll just design it all. It's all steel construction. We can bring it in containers and literally

3286
04:12:45,250 --> 04:12:48,130
and just go up, frame it all, get it all up and running,

3287
04:12:48,430 --> 04:12:50,190
and then finish, of course, over time.

3288
04:12:50,450 --> 04:12:52,730
But within six weeks, we can get structure of 10.

3289
04:12:53,230 --> 04:12:54,590
And the cost is actually favorable.

3290
04:12:55,170 --> 04:12:58,690
And that is why that's a concept I would personally

3291
04:12:58,690 --> 04:12:59,550
consider doing.

3292
04:13:00,070 --> 04:13:02,150
And the best we stayed clear from vertical,

3293
04:13:02,350 --> 04:13:05,470
we've done it in North Carolina, and it was a hellish

3294
04:13:05,470 --> 04:13:08,170
to be able to deal with the public.

3295
04:13:08,790 --> 04:13:10,490
So we stayed clear from that.

3296
04:13:10,510 --> 04:13:11,530
We have done it before.

3297
04:13:12,050 --> 04:13:12,890
We will do it again.

3298
04:13:12,890 --> 04:13:15,170
It's all about good business.

3299
04:13:16,150 --> 04:13:21,750
Now, in terms of your question, first of all, there's nothing that you need to spell out.

3300
04:13:21,790 --> 04:13:30,790
Everything I've been talking about is actually built into the PDD amendment as we submitted it.

3301
04:13:30,790 --> 04:13:31,490
There's no creativity.

3302
04:13:32,350 --> 04:13:34,190
It can be approved as it is.

3303
04:13:34,710 --> 04:13:36,830
It's all the stuff we're talking about is embedded.

3304
04:13:36,830 --> 04:13:47,290
And if somebody makes a motion, we approve, as we get exactly what we're talking about, there's no creativity in how the motion should be put.

3305
04:13:48,230 --> 04:13:59,030
Unless, unless somebody else thinks otherwise, the net of this is we get, we keep our R3, which is there for us regardless.

3306
04:13:59,030 --> 04:14:03,350
If this expires, I can build apartments on this thing.

3307
04:14:04,190 --> 04:14:04,890
And it'll stay.

3308
04:14:05,010 --> 04:14:08,810
If I decide to basically build the 10 years from now,

3309
04:14:08,970 --> 04:14:10,330
I can still build it with apartments.

3310
04:14:11,230 --> 04:14:13,870
Any developer will tell you that the current value

3311
04:14:13,870 --> 04:14:15,870
of that property substantially exceeds

3312
04:14:15,870 --> 04:14:17,490
for an R3 as it stands.

3313
04:14:19,570 --> 04:14:21,470
Anything that you will get for single family.

3314
04:14:22,450 --> 04:14:27,770
When you have 165 downhouses entitled for this property,

3315
04:14:27,770 --> 04:14:34,650
I can assure you that if I was to sell it just like that it's twice to three times the price

3316
04:14:34,650 --> 04:14:38,950
I would get for single family and and it's some I need developer will tell you that

3317
04:14:39,610 --> 04:14:42,090
Right, so for me I'll tell you my opinion

3318
04:14:42,090 --> 04:14:48,770
I would rather you request me that it'd be a base zone of R6 and I would agree with some of the concessions that you have

3319
04:14:48,770 --> 04:14:50,470
Yeah, that's my opinion

3320
04:14:50,470 --> 04:14:55,770
Okay, I don't want this R3 lingering out there because I want it

3321
04:14:55,770 --> 04:14:59,670
It won't slinger for long, and it's not lingering, it's there.

3322
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:14,260
Today we have it. Please understand that. It's not asking you to do anything that will be compromising the city's well-being. All I'm asking you is to give me the opportunity to do less density.

3323
04:15:14,260 --> 04:15:18,140
That's all. There's no shenanigans going on.

3324
04:15:19,700 --> 04:15:24,580
And if you decide not to be that it's an R6 based on that fair enough.

3325
04:15:24,800 --> 04:15:31,740
And I appreciate that, but please appreciate where we're coming from, which is if I continue.

3326
04:15:32,520 --> 04:15:34,700
I'm almost there, but I'm not there.

3327
04:15:35,380 --> 04:15:41,240
I cannot relinquish my R3, not knowing that I'm 100% sure I'm proceeding with R6.

3328
04:15:41,240 --> 04:15:48,840
Even if I'm at 80% which that's where I'm I am I'm not going to really squish the R3 you wouldn't if you're in my position

3329
04:15:49,420 --> 04:15:55,760
Knowing that I will I will I'm shooting for I'm here talking to you guys almost begging you to go down on density

3330
04:15:55,760 --> 04:15:58,460
I mean which developer does that

3331
04:15:58,460 --> 04:16:03,760
Right, so so and the mechanism of how to do it and that's what I'm saying I am for the less density

3332
04:16:03,760 --> 04:16:09,660
So let's just change it to an order. We cannot change it for our sex and if we do I will not accept that. I will walk away

3333
04:16:09,660 --> 04:16:18,140
honestly, which is fair enough, you know, I will go and build, I'm here out of, like, I like you guys, and I, you know what, they all see it, they're coming here as a family.

3334
04:16:18,940 --> 04:16:25,240
Some of us, you know, don't like me, some of us like me, some of us think this, some of us, but you know, we've been, we've been doing this for many years.

3335
04:16:25,960 --> 04:16:34,360
And to me, I appreciate you, and I respect you, I want us to work together. There's nothing for the city to lose.

3336
04:16:34,360 --> 04:16:43,620
Nothing, honestly, from a rational perspective, nothing for the city to lose, to allow us a chance to consider less density.

3337
04:16:44,880 --> 04:16:50,480
But just because you're going to allow us that chance, you can't strip us from what we currently have.

3338
04:16:51,240 --> 04:16:54,100
I'm just being very rational, not emotional.

3339
04:16:54,720 --> 04:17:00,160
And I hope you agree with me that what we're asking for is very logical and fair.

3340
04:17:00,880 --> 04:17:08,420
There's no concessions on behalf of the city beside Okesamya. Go go and if you can do it, we love it.

3341
04:17:08,600 --> 04:17:14,900
Just do it, right? And I'm 80% there. Please allow us to do it. Please. Please.

3342
04:17:15,300 --> 04:17:24,800
Well, you've not changed my opinion. And you're asking for additional concessions to cut even more trees down in pale.

3343
04:17:24,800 --> 04:17:29,900
You know, I don't care what we've negotiated here or tried to negotiate here from the Dias.

3344
04:17:30,480 --> 04:17:37,040
You know, if you want those variances, let's commit to a Bay Zone of R6.

3345
04:17:37,360 --> 04:17:43,620
And then we can then discuss, hey, we'll accept some of the things that you've asked for.

3346
04:17:44,300 --> 04:17:45,880
So that's just my opinion.

3347
04:17:46,480 --> 04:17:47,680
And you can read my book.

3348
04:17:47,800 --> 04:17:48,460
I'll all you want.

3349
04:17:48,600 --> 04:17:49,960
But yeah, that's my perspective.

3350
04:17:51,780 --> 04:17:54,780
I don't agree with it because I don't believe there's a downside to this.

3351
04:17:54,780 --> 04:18:03,960
city whatsoever, zero downside. We're already approved for the other plan. We can cut trees

3352
04:18:03,960 --> 04:18:08,300
and the worst case scenario we have is to pay you $97,000.

3353
04:18:10,540 --> 04:18:13,140
We know how much that cost.

3354
04:18:13,400 --> 04:18:19,840
That's an extra $97,000 and the upside is massive. So that's so in terms of asking for more

3355
04:18:20,680 --> 04:18:26,940
Marking sessions from the city, we're not, how so, how so I would I invited you?

3356
04:18:27,040 --> 04:18:33,200
You are not approved to cut as many trees in the initial variance that you brought

3357
04:18:33,200 --> 04:18:34,560
forward to us.

3358
04:18:34,780 --> 04:18:40,120
You're in the tree plan that I saw, there were other clumps of trees that we're going

3359
04:18:40,120 --> 04:18:40,660
to stay.

3360
04:18:40,960 --> 04:18:43,240
Now you're asking to cut them all down.

3361
04:18:43,760 --> 04:18:44,100
All right.

3362
04:18:44,420 --> 04:18:49,440
There were six trees that were the state there were number one, two, three, four, five,

3363
04:18:49,440 --> 04:18:56,220
and six, there were specific positions based on the site plan that we had for the townhouses.

3364
04:18:57,280 --> 04:19:02,620
We were keeping six degrees. You're welcome to look at the current PD, because we're

3365
04:19:02,620 --> 04:19:07,760
not replacing the PD, he was just adding to it. It's available to you. It's exhibit

3366
04:19:08,880 --> 04:19:13,340
J in the fair. I still think it should be a request.

3367
04:19:13,400 --> 04:19:19,060
Fair enough. I would like to be clear though, when you're saying we were not, we were

3368
04:19:19,060 --> 04:19:28,180
not authorized or approved to remove, to remove trees, we were and all we had to do is keep

3369
04:19:28,180 --> 04:19:33,520
six trees and then pay the difference. The difference would have been less than $97,000

3370
04:19:35,660 --> 04:19:43,900
because we will have six trees left. So what I'm saying is we are already approved to proceed.

3371
04:19:43,900 --> 04:19:51,380
We will pay the full fee it to be about 90,000 bucks and there's no impediment right now for us to proceed

3372
04:19:51,380 --> 04:19:54,100
Please know that we do not have to come back to you guys

3373
04:19:54,100 --> 04:19:58,740
I know I know that over our head. No, I don't know. Please

3374
04:19:58,740 --> 04:20:03,940
And so that's not a time trying to get to a real direct response

3375
04:20:03,940 --> 04:20:10,960
Let's do in our six. Let's agree to the low density. That's that's what I'm requesting. Well

3376
04:20:10,960 --> 04:20:13,820
by colleagues and I have a step from my opinion.

3377
04:20:14,200 --> 04:20:17,000
And I respect that, but please understand also our position.

3378
04:20:17,840 --> 04:20:25,920
We are not asking for any more, not one more concession from the city that we apparently have.

3379
04:20:26,040 --> 04:20:30,360
Beside the cap, and we know our rosquise scenario is 97,000 dollars.

3380
04:20:30,500 --> 04:20:32,140
That's if you have to get all the tweets.

3381
04:20:32,940 --> 04:20:37,200
We already approved for the three preservation done, right?

3382
04:20:37,200 --> 04:20:43,460
So, and I'm not holding anything over your head, I don't understand why you're seeing it that way.

3383
04:20:44,060 --> 04:20:50,160
When we're coming in with the best possible intention, and I'm sorry if it came out that way, absolutely not the intention.

3384
04:20:51,000 --> 04:20:52,560
I truly apologize for that.

3385
04:20:53,320 --> 04:20:55,780
I'm not holding anything over anyone anyone has had.

3386
04:20:55,820 --> 04:20:58,480
We're entitled for something not holding it over your head.

3387
04:20:58,640 --> 04:21:06,000
I did not hold over anyone's head the fact that we had apartments before and we decided to go down on density.

3388
04:21:06,000 --> 04:21:08,500
and a lot of people appreciated that.

3389
04:21:08,640 --> 04:21:10,360
And honestly, that's all we're doing here.

3390
04:21:10,880 --> 04:21:14,760
We did go, and when we did that, just not sure if you remember,

3391
04:21:15,180 --> 04:21:17,920
the PDD for the triangle, the trilogy,

3392
04:21:18,700 --> 04:21:20,540
resemble the lot that we have here.

3393
04:21:21,180 --> 04:21:23,720
And we came back to, we were entitled for,

3394
04:21:23,720 --> 04:21:25,340
so we were entitled for apartments.

3395
04:21:26,320 --> 04:21:29,600
Came back with 94,000, 94 single family.

3396
04:21:30,140 --> 04:21:32,360
And we came back and reduced that to 67.

3397
04:21:34,100 --> 04:21:34,640
Two reductions.

3398
04:21:35,440 --> 04:21:41,740
This is not the developer that's coming to hold anything over your head or you've always worked together very well.

3399
04:21:41,920 --> 04:21:46,220
I always thought that, you know, there was always a discordual back and forth.

3400
04:21:46,820 --> 04:21:50,180
We give concessions, you ask us for concessions, we give concessions.

3401
04:21:51,520 --> 04:21:56,840
I'm just at a position where I'm coming saying, you know what, this is what I have.

3402
04:21:57,340 --> 04:22:00,740
Would you please allow me to do this and you say, no, if you want to do this, you have to give up this.

3403
04:22:00,740 --> 04:22:06,740
But Mr. Shihadi, we can't really compare it to Triangle because it was, we knew what we were getting.

3404
04:22:07,960 --> 04:22:13,380
You know what I'm saying? The R6 with the ton of variances. And this is R3 and R6.

3405
04:22:13,680 --> 04:22:19,360
And I think it's R3, it's R3, but you want to see it inside of it.

3406
04:22:20,680 --> 04:22:26,960
Yeah, I guess it's just, there's no guarantees that it's going to be R6.

3407
04:22:26,960 --> 04:22:31,660
Well, you're saying it's going to be R3 because that's what I already have, right?

3408
04:22:32,300 --> 04:22:34,560
Well, how about we look at it a little bit different?

3409
04:22:36,320 --> 04:22:41,300
The guarantee for what? We currently have a guarantee for 165 townhouses.

3410
04:22:41,580 --> 04:22:42,660
Well, that's the guarantee, right?

3411
04:22:43,500 --> 04:22:47,580
I come to you and say, would you please allow me to do 74?

3412
04:22:48,800 --> 04:22:56,000
And you tell me, well, if I can just evaluate that, can you allow me to just evaluate it and see if I can get financing for it?

3413
04:22:56,000 --> 04:22:58,640
see if, you know, we can actually make it work.

3414
04:22:59,280 --> 04:23:01,020
And in order for me to do that, to proceed,

3415
04:23:01,520 --> 04:23:04,140
I need to know that this is an option available to us.

3416
04:23:04,400 --> 04:23:06,660
The bank wants to know that this is an option that's approved.

3417
04:23:07,520 --> 04:23:09,660
Not gonna approve financing, something that's not approved.

3418
04:23:10,620 --> 04:23:15,780
I cannot build single family on a townhouse on an R3.

3419
04:23:16,240 --> 04:23:19,740
It's unfortunate, because typically the way it works is,

3420
04:23:19,740 --> 04:23:22,900
well, if you have a maximum of 171 would think,

3421
04:23:23,260 --> 04:23:25,340
if you have maximum of 165,

3422
04:23:25,340 --> 04:23:29,260
And you can build just 70, right?

3423
04:23:29,340 --> 04:23:31,760
What, like, you know, mathematically, I'm an engineer,

3424
04:23:31,940 --> 04:23:32,700
you're able to count it right?

3425
04:23:33,440 --> 04:23:35,440
So mathematically it makes sense that I can,

3426
04:23:35,540 --> 04:23:37,720
the maximum, my maximum is 165.

3427
04:23:37,940 --> 04:23:41,600
I should be able to build 74, right?

3428
04:23:43,120 --> 04:23:45,060
But the way the code is written,

3429
04:23:45,340 --> 04:23:49,400
you cannot until you come in and ask for permission

3430
04:23:49,400 --> 04:23:50,760
to do that.

3431
04:23:51,380 --> 04:23:53,860
It's kind of that way.

3432
04:23:53,860 --> 04:23:57,400
And in order for us to be able to achieve that,

3433
04:23:57,480 --> 04:23:59,580
this is the mechanism for it.

3434
04:23:59,960 --> 04:24:01,140
It's for us to say, look, you know,

3435
04:24:01,280 --> 04:24:04,540
additional use, you allow us to do this.

3436
04:24:04,920 --> 04:24:07,080
But in order for me to do this density,

3437
04:24:07,740 --> 04:24:14,280
I need to pick a zone that matches what I'm trying to do,

3438
04:24:14,840 --> 04:24:17,640
so that the city can enforce support.

3439
04:24:18,320 --> 04:24:19,980
And that is the right thing to do.

3440
04:24:20,380 --> 04:24:22,380
So if I'm saying, look, I want this site plan,

3441
04:24:22,380 --> 04:24:25,360
which is 70, didn't just that comment?

3442
04:24:25,800 --> 04:24:26,200
I'm sorry.

3443
04:24:26,260 --> 04:24:28,500
And just the comment that you just made,

3444
04:24:28,560 --> 04:24:32,280
which is why you're looking for the zone to do that?

3445
04:24:32,520 --> 04:24:33,120
That's what I'm suggesting.

3446
04:24:33,120 --> 04:24:34,460
Oh, you want us for the arts?

3447
04:24:34,800 --> 04:24:35,740
Yeah, fair enough.

3448
04:24:36,340 --> 04:24:38,020
And what I meant by looking for the zone,

3449
04:24:38,140 --> 04:24:40,400
I'm looking for something for the city

3450
04:24:40,400 --> 04:24:42,260
to hold us accountable to.

3451
04:24:42,520 --> 04:24:46,320
Like, if I'm going with something that is different product,

3452
04:24:46,640 --> 04:24:48,440
when you approve this for the PDD,

3453
04:24:48,440 --> 04:24:50,860
You approve this for a very specific

3454
04:24:51,840 --> 04:24:57,240
Avariances on the R3 to allow us to build those townhouses in a certain way, right?

3455
04:24:57,880 --> 04:25:01,340
If I'm building less density in this case single family,

3456
04:25:02,720 --> 04:25:05,140
the R3 code doesn't match, right?

3457
04:25:05,140 --> 04:25:06,840
The right thing to do is to say, look,

3458
04:25:07,260 --> 04:25:08,800
we'll leave this as it is in the box.

3459
04:25:09,320 --> 04:25:10,320
It's not going to get disturbed.

3460
04:25:11,020 --> 04:25:15,140
What we will do is we'll just take this other box to allow us to do that,

3461
04:25:15,220 --> 04:25:16,440
and this other box here

3462
04:25:16,920 --> 04:25:19,240
and needs something to compare to.

3463
04:25:19,460 --> 04:25:22,660
And that explanation supports what I'm saying

3464
04:25:22,660 --> 04:25:24,700
that it should be your request should be

3465
04:25:24,700 --> 04:25:27,500
let me change the Bay Zone into an R6.

3466
04:25:28,420 --> 04:25:30,000
That's exactly what you're saying.

3467
04:25:30,420 --> 04:25:32,180
I have a spectrum, and that's not what I'm saying,

3468
04:25:32,400 --> 04:25:33,540
but that's, I have a spectrum of spectrum.

3469
04:25:33,940 --> 04:25:35,280
Yes, Councillor, Martian.

3470
04:25:35,380 --> 04:25:37,740
I know we've been at it for an hour with Mr. Schotties.

3471
04:25:37,840 --> 04:25:40,260
I think we need to wrap this up somehow.

3472
04:25:40,880 --> 04:25:44,800
I know that I didn't ever think I would say this,

3473
04:25:44,800 --> 04:25:47,160
but I understand what he's saying.

3474
04:25:48,960 --> 04:25:53,680
And he's got the R3 approvals, and that was done

3475
04:25:53,680 --> 04:25:54,940
by a previous council.

3476
04:25:55,660 --> 04:25:57,940
And as much as I would like to reverse it all

3477
04:25:57,940 --> 04:26:00,780
in all of the exceptions that he got and everything else,

3478
04:26:01,060 --> 04:26:02,240
I can't do that now.

3479
04:26:02,280 --> 04:26:03,180
It's a done deal.

3480
04:26:05,200 --> 04:26:08,680
So I'm actually considering the fact

3481
04:26:08,680 --> 04:26:13,200
that if there's a chance that we can get an R6 project

3482
04:26:13,200 --> 04:26:20,380
in this property versus the R3 that he's already got approval for,

3483
04:26:21,200 --> 04:26:27,060
it's at least a chance, whereas right now with the R3, it's a done deal.

3484
04:26:27,220 --> 04:26:29,140
We don't have a chance to make it better.

3485
04:26:30,320 --> 04:26:35,100
But if we do look at approving the R6,

3486
04:26:35,260 --> 04:26:41,300
and I mean, I have a question and I know that Dr. Calder is going to tell me it's not my business to ask this question,

3487
04:26:41,300 --> 04:26:43,380
but I'll ask it anyway, please do.

3488
04:26:43,600 --> 04:26:47,060
Given all of the variances that we've allowed in terms

3489
04:26:47,060 --> 04:26:49,740
of the size of the lots and the size of the homes

3490
04:26:49,740 --> 04:26:52,180
and the signs and the size of the clearances,

3491
04:26:53,000 --> 04:26:57,160
is it really a marketable home that somebody would want to buy?

3492
04:26:57,480 --> 04:26:59,920
Because it's not going to do us any good too,

3493
04:27:00,120 --> 04:27:06,380
if we approve an R6 that sits there and nobody buys these homes.

3494
04:27:06,380 --> 04:27:21,020
So are we, are we shaving off so much to try and make the profit that we need that they're not attractive to a buyer, or, I mean,

3495
04:27:21,020 --> 04:27:22,660
that it wasn't attracted to.

3496
04:27:22,800 --> 04:27:24,640
Like you wouldn't get funding, it wouldn't happen.

3497
04:27:25,700 --> 04:27:31,440
Like it, so you're getting into what it's going to look like,

3498
04:27:31,500 --> 04:27:33,740
and whether or not it can be sold, it really doesn't matter.

3499
04:27:34,300 --> 04:27:37,280
Because if he goes, that's what he gets funding for, it's R6,

3500
04:27:37,500 --> 04:27:39,700
and that's what he starts developing those blocks.

3501
04:27:41,080 --> 04:27:44,860
Four, then it's too hard to revert back to anything else

3502
04:27:44,860 --> 04:27:46,400
or who's in that now.

3503
04:27:48,560 --> 04:27:50,560
What y'all thought wasn't going to be marketable,

3504
04:27:50,560 --> 04:27:53,200
which is, like, your century community's property.

3505
04:27:55,670 --> 04:27:55,990
What's this, right?

3506
04:27:59,830 --> 04:28:02,290
This is for the market exchange to

3507
04:28:04,560 --> 04:28:05,520
the R1U,

3508
04:28:05,640 --> 04:28:09,040
to look like, even what our state needs to look like.

3509
04:28:13,480 --> 04:28:13,480
Um,

3510
04:28:17,550 --> 04:28:20,910
I mean, what don't want to do with it.

3511
04:28:21,450 --> 04:28:21,550
Yeah.

3512
04:28:21,550 --> 04:28:22,110
Okay, yes.

3513
04:28:22,150 --> 04:28:22,970
Councillor Raskar.

3514
04:28:23,550 --> 04:28:24,150
Thank you, Dr. Carter.

3515
04:28:24,290 --> 04:28:25,550
I don't want to hear your speaker on.

3516
04:28:26,530 --> 04:28:26,550
I don't know.

3517
04:28:27,630 --> 04:28:31,070
Both of you have some very compelling statements and arguments.

3518
04:28:31,770 --> 04:28:34,370
I really, really, thank that you guys do.

3519
04:28:34,370 --> 04:28:44,290
And Councilman will fill up, I'd like to call you for it, but I used to, yeah, it's covered, but it's late.

3520
04:28:45,550 --> 04:29:02,570
I think that if we don't take advantage of this right now, and that property there, if you go in there, it is horrible, not only for the city of Leon Valley, but especially for the people that live around there, it is horrendous.

3521
04:29:02,570 --> 04:29:09,630
And I don't think that you're going to deceive us, you have to do it, you're an excellent

3522
04:29:09,630 --> 04:29:14,630
businessman, and I know that you do what you have to do, and majority of times I want

3523
04:29:14,630 --> 04:29:19,730
to agree with it, but sometimes I have to vote what's best for the city.

3524
04:29:20,710 --> 04:29:27,090
Not me or what I feel about it and what I did not like, but what's going to benefit the city.

3525
04:29:27,990 --> 04:29:35,210
And I think that by going with what you're saying as Council and Merch was indicated, you

3526
04:29:35,210 --> 04:29:41,010
already have R3, and we get lucky to put some R6 in there then okay, we'll take advantage

3527
04:29:41,010 --> 04:29:41,810
of that.

3528
04:29:41,990 --> 04:29:43,010
I believe you said that was like that.

3529
04:29:43,050 --> 04:29:46,390
I believe the trilogy was like that a little bit, as far as you could have put apartments

3530
04:29:46,390 --> 04:29:48,870
in there if you wanted to.

3531
04:29:48,930 --> 04:29:53,870
I'd like to believe that you have the best interest of our city in going with this, and I

3532
04:29:53,870 --> 04:29:58,510
you've got this interesting company as well. But with that I'd like to make a motion like

3533
04:29:58,510 --> 04:29:59,970
the mayor say we've got...

3534
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:04,740
We've been here for an hour, and Dr. Cardell, you want to make the motion even though you want it out?

3535
04:30:05,080 --> 04:30:15,900
There's very best that you need to be able to do one more thing. Given the fact that I think that this is a better option and it's the only way.

3536
04:30:16,040 --> 04:30:26,740
The only chance that we have to have less than housing, I still think the tree in mitigation and lieu of figure needs to be negotiated a little bit more.

3537
04:30:26,740 --> 04:30:32,520
Well, it should not be, it should be, we should follow the recommendation of staff and that is, we follow our code.

3538
04:30:32,940 --> 04:30:34,200
We don't do that, guys.

3539
04:30:34,960 --> 04:30:36,920
So that's, that's what I would like to do.

3540
04:30:37,280 --> 04:30:45,500
You have over 91,000, just, you know, and maybe we can work out as far as the easement in that.

3541
04:30:46,680 --> 04:30:49,820
I think that's what's holding them back. 91,000.

3542
04:30:50,440 --> 04:30:54,380
Well, do 91,000, and you guys will help us with that easement if we need it.

3543
04:30:54,380 --> 04:31:01,220
that's fair. As in we'll pay for the easement. I don't know about that. I don't know what we're

3544
04:31:01,220 --> 04:31:06,680
getting into with the easement. We talked to last meeting when we were talking about the easement

3545
04:31:06,680 --> 04:31:14,680
wasn't it to expand the road. But then he gave up on. Right. So it's not the road. You're just giving

3546
04:31:14,680 --> 04:31:20,160
him. He's asking for. But now it's water. So it wasn't water. It's just a sewer. Okay. So it's just

3547
04:31:20,160 --> 04:31:26,260
But he's asking for five foot, but we would have to obtain that easement on his behalf in order to get to it.

3548
04:31:26,660 --> 04:31:35,900
And again, he's right, we don't know exactly what that looks like yet because we have to get surveys and make sure what all that entails.

3549
04:31:36,080 --> 04:31:38,260
But that's essentially what he's asking for.

3550
04:31:38,580 --> 04:31:41,300
Just in case he can't get it, he wants to make sure we're willing.

3551
04:31:42,240 --> 04:31:45,140
We need the muscle behind it for that five feet just in case.

3552
04:31:45,440 --> 04:31:45,640
That's all right.

3553
04:31:46,120 --> 04:31:47,740
That's what he's asking for.

3554
04:31:47,740 --> 04:31:54,320
That's completely up to you on whether or not you want to do trying to say no. Yes, you do. I can see it on your face go ahead

3555
04:31:54,320 --> 04:32:00,400
The concern with this tree mitigation 50,000 is a fair price for all those junk trees

3556
04:32:00,400 --> 04:32:06,260
I've walked in there. They're just shrubs. They're not trees and I'm a tree hugger

3557
04:32:06,820 --> 04:32:12,940
But those trees. I'm okay if they go and based on that I'd like to make a motion that we

3558
04:32:12,940 --> 04:32:19,120
You know, so guys you'll keep cutting it. Yeah, I'm sorry. I've got a public hearing. I've got to open and close

3559
04:32:19,120 --> 04:32:24,700
I haven't done that yet. Right. So, but sorry. So I've just Robert, I'm just going to

3560
04:32:25,300 --> 04:32:30,940
When somebody starts a motion, y'all shouldn't cut each other off. You need to let them finish their motion.

3561
04:32:31,600 --> 04:32:34,320
So, well, he started. Oh, it's not even that.

3562
04:32:34,320 --> 04:32:42,800
Was that even that make a motion? Yeah, but that's what I'm like y'all let once once you say the words, I have a motion. You really shouldn't stop each other's motion.

3563
04:32:42,940 --> 04:32:45,820
Let them finish their motion and we can go from there.

3564
04:32:46,300 --> 04:32:48,200
I mean, it's one, it's just polite.

3565
04:32:48,680 --> 04:32:50,160
No, you're like, we're business of order.

3566
04:32:50,820 --> 04:32:52,300
How we draw my motion?

3567
04:32:53,020 --> 04:32:54,360
There's no withdrawing a motion,

3568
04:32:54,460 --> 04:32:55,560
because I don't want you to put that on their way.

3569
04:32:55,700 --> 04:32:56,700
What's the date of the motion?

3570
04:32:57,200 --> 04:33:00,260
So you just said, I have a motion, but you should let you finish

3571
04:33:00,260 --> 04:33:01,240
a said motion.

3572
04:33:02,260 --> 04:33:05,200
And so I'm just letting it for Roberts' rules

3573
04:33:05,200 --> 04:33:06,480
for everything you've adopted.

3574
04:33:07,000 --> 04:33:08,580
But also, there's a public hearing.

3575
04:33:08,640 --> 04:33:10,120
Yet, we haven't done the public hearing.

3576
04:33:10,120 --> 04:33:11,260
You're not taking the vote.

3577
04:33:11,260 --> 04:33:13,680
He can still make a motion prior to your public hearing.

3578
04:33:13,800 --> 04:33:16,580
The second, the motion, and then you can open up the public hearing.

3579
04:33:17,020 --> 04:33:17,140
Go ahead.

3580
04:33:17,440 --> 04:33:17,740
Go ahead.

3581
04:33:17,740 --> 04:33:17,760
Go ahead.

3582
04:33:18,160 --> 04:33:18,420
Go ahead.

3583
04:33:19,060 --> 04:33:20,360
Go ahead.

3584
04:33:20,600 --> 04:33:21,380
There's no motion.

3585
04:33:21,620 --> 04:33:22,440
There's no motion.

3586
04:33:23,400 --> 04:33:24,080
Go ahead.

3587
04:33:24,960 --> 04:33:26,600
Well, but I thought that.

3588
04:33:27,160 --> 04:33:28,320
You can open up.

3589
04:33:28,840 --> 04:33:30,600
You can open up the public hearing.

3590
04:33:30,880 --> 04:33:35,400
I'm just trying for for minute purposes and the way we run our meetings.

3591
04:33:35,700 --> 04:33:37,180
When you say, I make a motion.

3592
04:33:37,380 --> 04:33:40,340
We're typing out a make a motion and somebody cuts you off.

3593
04:33:40,340 --> 04:33:45,600
It looks weird when you're looking at a record five years from now because it's like what was that motion?

3594
04:33:46,340 --> 04:33:50,740
And so, I'm just for clarification purposes, you can always let somebody make a motion,

3595
04:33:50,920 --> 04:33:54,080
you can say you just can't take a vote on it until you've conducted your public hearing.

3596
04:33:54,500 --> 04:33:58,260
Then after your public hearing, if you don't like what you have, then you can withdraw your motion,

3597
04:33:58,280 --> 04:34:00,900
you can move forward from a procedural standpoint.

3598
04:34:01,180 --> 04:34:04,940
But then again, she started to make a motion and we're stopping her motion.

3599
04:34:05,460 --> 04:34:08,960
You shouldn't be cutting each other off in the middle of the motion.

3600
04:34:08,960 --> 04:34:18,100
So, but now we're here, no motions, no motions have been made, you can proceed to your public hearing and then you can move forward.

3601
04:34:19,600 --> 04:34:19,840
All right.

3602
04:34:20,060 --> 04:34:21,980
I'll put the public hearing at 9.54.

3603
04:34:22,200 --> 04:34:29,080
Nobody's here unless staff or Mr. Bondi wants to say something.

3604
04:34:29,720 --> 04:34:32,740
He's been so patient, he's got the next agenda item.

3605
04:34:33,240 --> 04:34:35,020
All right, and we'll close it at 9.54.

3606
04:34:35,660 --> 04:34:39,380
and then stand in line for a motion. I thought Miss Merch was the first one that

3607
04:34:39,380 --> 04:34:47,380
had asked for one. I'd like to make a motion that we approved this R6 PDD without

3608
04:34:47,380 --> 04:34:56,340
removing the R3 of pre-approved PDD with a cap with the condition that the

3609
04:34:56,340 --> 04:35:03,200
on the tree mitigation in lieu of will be raised to $95,000.

3610
04:35:05,990 --> 04:35:10,390
And can I also say, what about the...

3611
04:35:10,390 --> 04:35:19,290
With all the fire chiefs recommendations followed, and the clarification from the engineer,

3612
04:35:19,410 --> 04:35:26,570
I think we got most of those answers, and that the 10-foot safety zone,

3613
04:35:26,570 --> 04:35:32,570
Next to Sawyer Road be protected from Sawyer Road in some manner.

3614
04:35:33,350 --> 04:35:34,870
How second it?

3615
04:35:34,930 --> 04:35:36,730
All right.

3616
04:35:36,950 --> 04:35:37,150
American.

3617
04:35:37,590 --> 04:35:38,670
Yes, she sure made.

3618
04:35:38,950 --> 04:35:39,690
Go ahead.

3619
04:35:41,350 --> 04:35:45,490
Is the motion line to accept all the other variances that have been presented?

3620
04:35:45,870 --> 04:35:46,390
I'm sorry.

3621
04:35:46,570 --> 04:35:47,570
Except all the other ones.

3622
04:35:47,590 --> 04:35:48,990
The modification that we're making.

3623
04:35:52,920 --> 04:35:53,000
Yeah.

3624
04:35:53,660 --> 04:35:56,740
Except for the tree mitigation was a different.

3625
04:35:57,760 --> 04:36:02,560
Yes, the motion did include accepting the all of the other

3626
04:36:04,000 --> 04:36:08,280
variances that were requested, except for the

3627
04:36:08,280 --> 04:36:11,600
tree mitigation in lieu of amount.

3628
04:36:12,540 --> 04:36:16,800
Just for clarification purposes, because it's going to come up later, I need to know whether or not

3629
04:36:16,800 --> 04:36:20,040
y'all want to do the easement or not.

3630
04:36:24,310 --> 04:36:29,830
So that's not part of her motion, it doesn't have to be, and you can move on, but then I want to make it

3631
04:36:29,830 --> 04:36:35,870
on the record that the easement is not part of that motion. The easement is not part of that motion,

3632
04:36:36,210 --> 04:36:37,270
as far as I'm concerned.

3633
04:36:41,370 --> 04:36:45,470
I'll stick to my silicone. Okay, you're still sick. Okay. All right. So we have

3634
04:36:45,470 --> 04:36:57,810
a motion by cancer, a second by cancer, a Roscoe, to approve the R6 within the R3 base zoning is how I'm

3635
04:36:57,810 --> 04:37:07,370
I say, accepting all variances, except for the tree mitigation, which the motion says would

3636
04:37:07,370 --> 04:37:14,110
be kept at 95,000, and also for the developer to follow all of the fire chief and engineers

3637
04:37:14,110 --> 04:37:23,370
recommendation, and to assume the 10-foot safety zone for the exiting on the Sawyer road,

3638
04:37:23,930 --> 04:37:26,190
and the easement is not part of the motion.

3639
04:37:27,500 --> 04:37:29,000
Pretty well.

3640
04:37:29,760 --> 04:37:29,760
So

3641
04:37:32,000 --> 04:37:34,300
we'll take a roll call vote.

3642
04:37:36,530 --> 04:37:36,550
Please.

3643
04:37:37,010 --> 04:37:37,630
Yes, ma'am.

3644
04:37:37,630 --> 04:37:38,950
Place one, Daniel Bolton.

3645
04:37:46,070 --> 04:37:47,110
Place two, Miss High?

3646
04:37:47,510 --> 04:37:48,150
Yes.

3647
04:37:49,170 --> 04:37:50,250
Place three, Mr. Compos.

3648
04:37:51,030 --> 04:37:53,070
After listening to my colleagues,

3649
04:37:53,550 --> 04:37:57,650
Mr. Shahadi, reluctantly, I'll vote yes.

3650
04:37:59,630 --> 04:37:59,910
Sorry.

3651
04:38:00,430 --> 04:38:01,510
Please, Mr. Horosco.

3652
04:38:01,770 --> 04:38:02,710
Yes, Mr. Horosco.

3653
04:38:04,470 --> 04:38:05,150
Hello.

3654
04:38:05,810 --> 04:38:06,530
Hello, Kelly.

3655
04:38:06,530 --> 04:38:08,410
It's ready for any ages.

3656
04:38:08,450 --> 04:38:09,070
I know.

3657
04:38:09,070 --> 04:38:09,870
Don't let us down.

3658
04:38:10,950 --> 04:38:11,270
Yes.

3659
04:38:11,270 --> 04:38:12,530
And Ms. Merch.

3660
04:38:14,030 --> 04:38:14,610
All right.

3661
04:38:15,290 --> 04:38:17,150
This was a labor of love.

3662
04:38:17,450 --> 04:38:18,710
It passes unanimously.

3663
04:38:19,350 --> 04:38:20,050
Mr. Shahadi.

3664
04:38:20,390 --> 04:38:20,970
I don't know.

3665
04:38:21,330 --> 04:38:21,510
Okay.

3666
04:38:21,870 --> 04:38:22,970
So we shall see.

3667
04:38:23,390 --> 04:38:23,510
Oh.

3668
04:38:23,890 --> 04:38:23,990
Yeah.

3669
04:38:24,650 --> 04:38:25,810
I think that's it.

3670
04:38:25,910 --> 04:38:27,190
I did close the public hearing.

3671
04:38:27,930 --> 04:38:28,170
Yeah.

3672
04:38:29,190 --> 04:38:30,190
It's just way mayor.

3673
04:38:30,370 --> 04:38:30,630
Okay.

3674
04:38:30,690 --> 04:38:31,090
It's late.

3675
04:38:31,210 --> 04:38:32,770
I've been working all day.

3676
04:38:32,990 --> 04:38:34,010
This is my third meeting.

3677
04:38:34,430 --> 04:38:34,610
Okay.

3678
04:38:34,670 --> 04:38:35,750
Thank you, Mr. Shahadi.

3679
04:38:35,750 --> 04:38:38,890
And we hope that the R6 comes through.

3680
04:38:39,730 --> 04:38:40,270
I do too.

3681
04:38:41,470 --> 04:38:41,850
All right.

3682
04:38:42,290 --> 04:38:43,890
Thank you.

3683
04:38:44,330 --> 04:38:44,790
All right.

3684
04:38:45,110 --> 04:38:47,690
I want to thank my colleagues for that.

3685
04:38:47,930 --> 04:38:51,150
I mean, there was really intense debate.

3686
04:38:51,450 --> 04:38:53,870
But I think we got all the answers to the questions,

3687
04:38:53,930 --> 04:38:56,510
and the compromises, and so I appreciate it.

3688
04:38:56,590 --> 04:38:57,450
So thank you so much.

3689
04:38:58,030 --> 04:38:59,050
So I think it was a tab of a lot.

3690
04:38:59,210 --> 04:38:59,950
I agree.

3691
04:39:00,150 --> 04:39:02,470
Like I said, they have very compelling concerns.

3692
04:39:02,570 --> 04:39:04,630
And I think it can be worked out when

3693
04:39:04,630 --> 04:39:08,430
gets to that point, when it goes to Plansman, we would be bad in and all that.

3694
04:39:08,890 --> 04:39:11,950
I think it would be worked out and I think the city will benefit from this.

3695
04:39:12,690 --> 04:39:12,890
Okay.

3696
04:39:13,090 --> 04:39:17,030
Well, I just, I like unanimous, you know, when we can all come together, so thank you

3697
04:39:17,030 --> 04:39:17,530
for that.

3698
04:39:17,910 --> 04:39:18,130
Okay.

3699
04:39:18,810 --> 04:39:25,690
Then we move them to agenda item number 7.3, discussion, and possible action on an ordinance

3700
04:39:25,690 --> 04:39:30,170
authorizing the city manager to enter into development agreement between the city of

3701
04:39:30,170 --> 04:39:41,050
and R.C. Banda Roo, if I'm pronouncing it, okay? I'm terrible at linguistic. Okay, I'm sorry.

3702
04:39:43,810 --> 04:39:51,930
Banda Roo, really, for the sale of the real property, 0.552 acres of land, lots seven, dirt,

3703
04:39:52,250 --> 04:39:58,470
the merchants and hebner subdivision, also known as the silo property. And we did have the first

3704
04:39:58,470 --> 04:40:01,070
read on April 7th and Dr.

3705
04:40:03,130 --> 04:40:05,470
Caldero's, he's going to present this.

3706
04:40:13,360 --> 04:40:15,120
My, no, my late bell, please.

3707
04:40:16,120 --> 04:40:16,620
Yeah.

3708
04:40:22,260 --> 04:40:29,240
While you're getting that up, I just wanted the historical society gave me some history on this piece of property that I thought you all might like.

3709
04:40:29,240 --> 04:40:30,720
I thought I'd read it real quick.

3710
04:40:30,720 --> 04:40:36,160
Claude Evers and his wife, Johanna, and their two children, Christian and Christina, immigrated

3711
04:40:36,160 --> 04:40:43,480
to Leon Valley area from Germany in 1855. Christian bought 211 acres near the northeast corner

3712
04:40:43,480 --> 04:40:50,760
of Hebner Evers Road for $3 per acre. Christian Evers later sold a portion of that land to

3713
04:40:50,760 --> 04:40:57,880
John Red, Susan Holler, Christian Evers-Marie Christina Buck, and they had 10 children.

3714
04:40:58,620 --> 04:41:01,300
Christian would go on to openly on Valley's first school.

3715
04:41:01,780 --> 04:41:07,180
One of these children Antoinette Evers-Marie offered Ryninger, one of their daughter's

3716
04:41:07,180 --> 04:41:11,140
Catherine-Marie Paul Suerne Thrall, Conred Sun.

3717
04:41:11,940 --> 04:41:17,320
And Catherine and Paul lived on the Healer Road several hundred feet northeast of the intersection

3718
04:41:17,320 --> 04:41:23,200
with Evers Road where the silos stand today, the rest of the Evers farmland is now part

3719
04:41:23,200 --> 04:41:28,480
of the Canterfield subdivision. The only remaining parcel land that belonged to the original

3720
04:41:28,480 --> 04:41:36,260
Evers pioneers is the Evers cemetery, and this is thanks to Carol Poss for the history of this.

3721
04:41:36,760 --> 04:41:41,300
So, it's got a lot of history, 1855. So, thank you.

3722
04:41:44,370 --> 04:41:48,450
You're lots of history over there, RC. I'll just

3723
04:41:48,450 --> 04:41:49,230
you RC.

3724
04:42:11,160 --> 04:42:16,960
So we're looking for the development agreement.

3725
04:42:19,680 --> 04:42:21,240
So essentially, as you know

3726
04:42:21,240 --> 04:42:26,960
Mayor, this canic came in at the tail end. Yes, right. We added at the very end we

3727
04:42:26,960 --> 04:42:33,640
already proved correct. And so essentially we're waiting for art to get us back the

3728
04:42:33,640 --> 04:42:37,760
language for the contract for the callback on the

3729
04:42:37,760 --> 04:42:41,520
silo property. We sent him the survey. So we asked him to make those

3730
04:42:41,520 --> 04:42:45,420
changes. And so from the last time we met till now,

3731
04:42:45,520 --> 04:42:49,380
that's the only change to this agreement is the callback. And so I

3732
04:42:49,380 --> 04:42:53,820
know when I was talking to Miss Merch. She said, Oh, it looks like

3733
04:42:53,820 --> 04:42:57,680
he's only going to put 25,000. No, it's still the maximum. The 25,000

3734
04:42:57,680 --> 04:43:02,420
is just for the paying portion. And so the agreement is all

3735
04:43:02,420 --> 04:43:07,660
still the same. If you look at the resolution, there's two that are copy and paste errors.

3736
04:43:08,120 --> 04:43:12,960
It's right there. It says the property currently contains two forms, and then it says it again.

3737
04:43:13,440 --> 04:43:18,240
So we'll make the grammar or administrative change. But the agreement to same agreement.

3738
04:43:18,400 --> 04:43:20,840
I'll discuss in the last time executive session.

3739
04:43:22,860 --> 04:43:24,940
It's what you asked art to come back with.

3740
04:43:25,140 --> 04:43:29,560
That's the change that he made. We got the survey for around the silos.

3741
04:43:29,560 --> 04:43:33,260
So if something were to happen, if the HOA goes bankrupt,

3742
04:43:35,680 --> 04:43:37,400
if they just can't keep the silos

3743
04:43:37,400 --> 04:43:43,540
up based on the HOA fees or whatever that is, the facility has the ability to claw back

3744
04:43:43,540 --> 04:43:44,140
the silos.

3745
04:43:45,060 --> 04:43:45,940
I have a question.

3746
04:43:48,740 --> 04:43:52,860
Did we talk about the silos maintenance, is that going to be by the HOA?

3747
04:43:52,860 --> 04:43:53,180
Yes.

3748
04:43:53,600 --> 04:43:55,900
So everything, so essentially everything to do it.

3749
04:43:55,900 --> 04:44:01,740
So what's happening right now is we would sell him the property itself for $1,000.

3750
04:44:02,080 --> 04:44:06,920
He's agreeing to move the sewer in order to accomplish adding the due plexus there.

3751
04:44:07,360 --> 04:44:15,580
He would then have a second entry onto his development as well as maintaining and revitalizing

3752
04:44:15,580 --> 04:44:18,780
the silos based on the attachment that's in your packet.

3753
04:44:19,660 --> 04:44:21,180
So he would paint them.

3754
04:44:21,180 --> 04:44:27,780
He is asking us to handle the plaque, and I think more so he just wants to make sure he does it justice.

3755
04:44:28,740 --> 04:44:32,500
He wants to, like if you want to put the history, he just doesn't want to be responsible for putting the wrong.

3756
04:44:32,500 --> 04:44:33,600
He's going to put it up.

3757
04:44:34,060 --> 04:44:36,600
No, that's what he's asking, just like can we just put it up?

3758
04:44:36,600 --> 04:44:37,760
Yeah, it's not one.

3759
04:44:37,780 --> 04:44:39,480
Yeah, you wanted to do the plaque.

3760
04:44:40,160 --> 04:44:40,200
Yes.

3761
04:44:40,560 --> 04:44:41,980
I mean, he can install it.

3762
04:44:42,060 --> 04:44:42,960
I mean, he was going to install it.

3763
04:44:42,960 --> 04:44:43,980
But we could do the plaque.

3764
04:44:44,240 --> 04:44:44,460
Yeah.

3765
04:44:44,460 --> 04:44:50,220
The plaque portion for the cost isn't, it's not, it's like two or three thousand dollars.

3766
04:44:50,700 --> 04:44:52,920
And this is a 20-year agreement?

3767
04:44:53,960 --> 04:44:54,120
Yes.

3768
04:44:56,600 --> 04:44:59,100
So the HUA is going to maintain it for the whole 20 years.

3769
04:44:59,100 --> 04:44:59,820
It's supposed to be.

3770
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:07,420
Okay. And then after the 20 years of that, then we up for discussion on how we want to handle it, that won't be around.

3771
04:45:07,720 --> 04:45:16,900
And so I won't be. Well, the concept is sometimes just like y'all, y'all become very attached to your items in your community.

3772
04:45:17,960 --> 04:45:28,400
And so my hope is whoever lives in that subdivision will learn to love those silos and they'll do everything they can to protect those silos as part of their community.

3773
04:45:28,400 --> 04:45:34,220
right like that's kind of the end goal. There's some neighborhoods that have features. I was

3774
04:45:34,220 --> 04:45:39,000
just in the neighborhood not too long ago and they adopted like a historic church. It's part

3775
04:45:39,000 --> 04:45:43,780
of the neighborhood and it's part of a chapel and it's surrounded by a kind of the exact same

3776
04:45:43,780 --> 04:45:50,200
concept. It's literally a historical marker. It's part of the neighborhood. But the HOA is the one

3777
04:45:50,200 --> 04:45:56,780
that has a security, the one that maintains it. They're the ones that care for the property. And

3778
04:45:56,780 --> 04:46:00,260
They've since tried to turn it over to part of the historic commission and the neighborhood

3779
04:46:00,260 --> 04:46:00,920
came on glue.

3780
04:46:01,060 --> 04:46:03,900
They were like, no, this is our thing and our subdivision.

3781
04:46:04,140 --> 04:46:08,860
And so they raise their HOA fees in order to do the renovations on the church.

3782
04:46:09,600 --> 04:46:15,020
So I'm hoping that's kind of what happens with the silo, but you have the ability as part

3783
04:46:15,020 --> 04:46:21,180
of this agreement, if that doesn't happen, that you'd be able to say that you're not

3784
04:46:21,180 --> 04:46:26,000
doing XYZ as far as maintaining the silos and the city has the ability to call them

3785
04:46:26,000 --> 04:46:29,960
So they're not taking down okay, okay, and then

3786
04:46:31,120 --> 04:46:36,900
R.C. was going to put X no or of dollars into painting the silos, but then there was something I read that

3787
04:46:37,420 --> 04:46:41,360
You would ask the city if we wanted to do something more than just a flag

3788
04:46:41,360 --> 04:46:44,540
Then you would try to get extra like economic

3789
04:46:45,360 --> 04:46:52,480
Correct, so development funds. I mean, but that's that we don't have to direct so it adjust that for now correct

3790
04:46:52,480 --> 04:46:58,980
So, it's 62,000 is what his revitalization dollars are for the silos, 25,000 of that is painting.

3791
04:46:59,640 --> 04:47:04,480
Once you give that to him, it is his discretion what he wants to kind of put on there.

3792
04:47:04,940 --> 04:47:08,420
And so, I know some of y'all have like, we don't want flags, we don't.

3793
04:47:08,640 --> 04:47:13,600
We've had different presentations on what to go on those silos and y'all still haven't made a decision.

3794
04:47:14,360 --> 04:47:16,440
So, you kind of give it and somebody else's hands.

3795
04:47:16,660 --> 04:47:18,300
He owns it, let him put what he wants.

3796
04:47:18,300 --> 04:47:26,680
And then, because it's not going to be anything not nice, and so, right, like some flat, I think

3797
04:47:26,680 --> 04:47:28,580
you had flags, I think it was in your original proposal.

3798
04:47:32,350 --> 04:47:37,190
So, we know you'll do right, and then after that, if you all have issue with that, then we

3799
04:47:37,190 --> 04:47:41,490
can have a conversation like after the pain or some of these research to fade, if you all

3800
04:47:41,490 --> 04:47:45,450
want to revitalize that, we can come back with, he can come back with an economic development

3801
04:47:45,450 --> 04:47:48,650
community development type grant or something of that nature.

3802
04:47:48,650 --> 04:47:59,550
If you want to put something more detailed, but again, this is an option or a request that has come forth before you all.

3803
04:47:59,790 --> 04:48:09,150
If this is something that you're not comfortable with, if the history of the silos is too valuable to you, you're also not in under any obligation.

3804
04:48:10,450 --> 04:48:12,470
Have to accept this development agreement either.

3805
04:48:12,470 --> 04:48:19,850
Sorry, did you, Mr. Councillor Merchett, I'd love for you to ask your question, but I was going to ask you,

3806
04:48:20,390 --> 04:48:23,270
Mr. R.C. if you had any additional comments on this issue.

3807
04:48:25,800 --> 04:48:25,800
So.

3808
04:48:25,960 --> 04:48:26,620
Thank you.

3809
04:48:26,620 --> 04:48:27,020
Uh-huh.

3810
04:48:27,340 --> 04:48:29,200
I don't have any comments.

3811
04:48:29,340 --> 04:48:29,640
Okay.

3812
04:48:29,640 --> 04:48:29,960
Okay.

3813
04:48:30,340 --> 04:48:30,580
Okay.

3814
04:48:30,740 --> 04:48:31,240
Okay.

3815
04:48:31,940 --> 04:48:33,900
I want to keep up my work.

3816
04:48:34,580 --> 04:48:35,140
And I

3817
04:48:37,160 --> 04:48:40,860
show this to a number of other dollopors and dollopors.

3818
04:48:40,900 --> 04:48:44,200
Everybody loves that concept of having that silence there.

3819
04:48:44,200 --> 04:48:53,440
good. Being the little friends with the landscaping, surrounded by the houses, it gives a nice

3820
04:48:54,160 --> 04:49:00,160
view. I just appreciate you wanting to preserve those silos. Thank you. It is part of our

3821
04:49:00,160 --> 04:49:08,860
history that I just read 1855. Okay, thank you. Only one change. Yes, one change. We want to put it on

3822
04:49:09,940 --> 04:49:11,060
I'm sorry.

3823
04:49:11,240 --> 04:49:12,500
Ellilsy name, rather than.

3824
04:49:13,000 --> 04:49:13,020
Yeah.

3825
04:49:13,200 --> 04:49:14,200
So what is the agreement?

3826
04:49:14,580 --> 04:49:16,460
And we have it under his personal name.

3827
04:49:16,580 --> 04:49:17,960
But it will be his LLC name.

3828
04:49:17,960 --> 04:49:19,180
Oh, LLC name.

3829
04:49:19,400 --> 04:49:19,620
That's fine.

3830
04:49:19,700 --> 04:49:20,320
That way.

3831
04:49:21,240 --> 04:49:23,220
The other point eight acres is on Ellils.

3832
04:49:24,140 --> 04:49:24,700
Okay.

3833
04:49:25,200 --> 04:49:25,500
So just.

3834
04:49:26,400 --> 04:49:26,960
Okay.

3835
04:49:28,380 --> 04:49:28,600
All right.

3836
04:49:28,860 --> 04:49:28,960
Yes.

3837
04:49:29,080 --> 04:49:35,400
Council have any role in reviewing his design ideas before he does something?

3838
04:49:35,560 --> 04:49:35,600
No.

3839
04:49:35,600 --> 04:49:37,500
I mean, I would make sure.

3840
04:49:37,500 --> 04:49:41,780
So, the answer to that is technically no, that's not part of the agreement that we ever

3841
04:49:41,780 --> 04:49:44,140
reviewed design committee area, that's,

3842
04:49:46,650 --> 04:49:49,670
again, kind of one of those things, it's raining.

3843
04:49:49,950 --> 04:49:51,190
I was gonna say, it's raining.

3844
04:49:51,310 --> 04:49:51,750
Yeah, it's raining.

3845
04:49:51,810 --> 04:49:54,410
And I don't have a number on that.

3846
04:49:55,110 --> 04:49:55,910
Yeah, so.

3847
04:49:56,470 --> 04:49:57,230
It's pouring.

3848
04:49:58,110 --> 04:49:58,790
Oh, no.

3849
04:49:59,190 --> 04:50:01,750
So, he's agreeing to get it.

3850
04:50:02,090 --> 04:50:03,890
He's agreeing to us a lot of put a plaque.

3851
04:50:04,030 --> 04:50:07,730
He's agreeing to paint them, about like what flowers he puts there, what he's putting

3852
04:50:07,730 --> 04:50:13,070
on the silos, the gate, the, I believe, surprises are the surprises.

3853
04:50:13,710 --> 04:50:14,030
So, yes.

3854
04:50:14,650 --> 04:50:15,810
I know you're going to do good.

3855
04:50:15,810 --> 04:50:18,830
And he's going to want to, he's going to want it to look good.

3856
04:50:18,910 --> 04:50:22,970
Because he's trying to also, so that you can track people to want to buy there.

3857
04:50:23,290 --> 04:50:23,850
Yeah, you bet.

3858
04:50:25,050 --> 04:50:25,290
All right.

3859
04:50:25,370 --> 04:50:28,410
Next to a church and next to a park.

3860
04:50:28,530 --> 04:50:29,490
The, yeah.

3861
04:50:29,930 --> 04:50:30,970
Police fire protection.

3862
04:50:31,690 --> 04:50:32,910
The city not view.

3863
04:50:33,230 --> 04:50:34,310
Oh, I'm sorry.

3864
04:50:34,890 --> 04:50:36,210
And within 45 days.

3865
04:50:36,210 --> 04:50:38,790
Right go head art repeat yourself.

3866
04:50:41,770 --> 04:50:43,170
All right. Would you repeat yourself.

3867
04:50:45,840 --> 04:50:45,840
Hello.

3868
04:50:46,100 --> 04:50:48,380
Yeah. Sorry. I just that.

3869
04:50:49,040 --> 04:50:50,080
To the question.

3870
04:50:50,760 --> 04:50:52,620
We'll be brought back to council.

3871
04:50:53,380 --> 04:50:59,980
The agreement doesn't allow for the city to provide commentary on it with him five days of the submission of the plans to the city.

3872
04:51:00,200 --> 04:51:02,340
Okay. So five days.

3873
04:51:02,840 --> 04:51:03,820
45 days.

3874
04:51:03,820 --> 04:51:06,140
45 days. I don't he's breaking out.

3875
04:51:06,440 --> 04:51:06,580
Okay.

3876
04:51:06,580 --> 04:51:11,480
So we can comment for the planet itself, yes.

3877
04:51:12,300 --> 04:51:14,280
I just don't want to get into detail.

3878
04:51:14,880 --> 04:51:20,400
Like we can't tell him these specific flowers, this specific thing.

3879
04:51:20,960 --> 04:51:22,460
They overall plan for the content.

3880
04:51:23,200 --> 04:51:23,760
Very good.

3881
04:51:23,980 --> 04:51:25,820
Okay. Thank you for those comments.

3882
04:51:26,600 --> 04:51:27,880
We appreciate it.

3883
04:51:28,460 --> 04:51:29,780
Mr. Compost, do you have a mission?

3884
04:51:30,140 --> 04:51:31,340
I do have a motion.

3885
04:51:31,340 --> 04:51:37,660
And however, I don't know if within the motion, we have to name a different.

3886
04:51:37,960 --> 04:51:45,340
No, because the motion itself is just giving me the authorization to enter into the agreement.

3887
04:51:45,660 --> 04:51:49,440
So I'll make, I'm going to do one more run through with art, make sure everything is in the agreement.

3888
04:51:49,600 --> 04:51:50,520
That's formatted.

3889
04:51:50,720 --> 04:51:54,900
There's some formatting a couple formatting things I caught when we uploaded it.

3890
04:51:54,900 --> 04:51:57,480
Make sure that the resolution doesn't have the grammar stuff.

3891
04:51:57,480 --> 04:51:59,760
So when y'all vote on it this evening,

3892
04:51:59,980 --> 04:52:05,950
you're voting on all the substantial parts of the agreement.

3893
04:52:06,230 --> 04:52:08,770
I will clean it up and make sure that the formatting's correct.

3894
04:52:08,830 --> 04:52:10,730
Make sure the LSE name is correct.

3895
04:52:11,230 --> 04:52:13,890
All of that year just voting on giving me the authorization

3896
04:52:13,890 --> 04:52:17,350
to enter into the agreement based on the substantial portions

3897
04:52:17,350 --> 04:52:19,090
of the agreement itself.

3898
04:52:19,150 --> 04:52:21,550
Like am I going to change the amounts or anything?

3899
04:52:21,790 --> 04:52:25,550
I'll make the motion that we allow the city manager to negotiate

3900
04:52:25,550 --> 04:52:33,110
or finalize the contract that is in substantial form in front of us for approval.

3901
04:52:35,570 --> 04:52:37,030
I'd like to second that motion.

3902
04:52:37,350 --> 04:52:38,070
All right, thank you.

3903
04:52:38,310 --> 04:52:55,530
We have a motion by Councilor Kompos in the second by Councilor Merch to approve agenda 7.3 authorizing the city manager to enter into a development agreement between the city of Liam Valley and RC Banderoo for the sale of the sale property.

3904
04:52:55,530 --> 04:53:02,250
at the side of the property .552 acres. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye.

3905
04:53:02,410 --> 04:53:08,730
Any opposed? The motion does carry. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it and welcome.

3906
04:53:10,230 --> 04:53:15,990
Well, you've already been to the Lamb Valley, but welcome back. Okay. Thank you. All right. So we're

3907
04:53:15,990 --> 04:53:25,310
us down here. So what we're going to do next is go through these appointments. And the first

3908
04:53:25,310 --> 04:53:35,590
one is number four, 7.4, appointing members to the Board of Adjustment and Council the

3909
04:53:35,590 --> 04:53:45,270
on. And so we've received five application Andrew Parer, Adam Castillo, Don Friedrich,

3910
04:53:45,910 --> 04:53:57,110
Theresa Moser, and Hal Bernsides. We did not get an application from Luther Perez. Okay, so he was on and he decided not to re-app. So may I have a motion?

3911
04:53:57,570 --> 04:54:01,870
Yes. Just before we get started on all the committee, I do want to make it a point because it did come up.

3912
04:54:01,870 --> 04:54:10,470
I did email it to you all the section of the code to that state that you can only members can only be part of two committees

3913
04:54:10,470 --> 04:54:17,910
You can be on unlimited ad hoc and if you have the ad hoc would be like your comprehensive master plan committee is an ad hoc committee

3914
04:54:17,910 --> 04:54:21,230
So that you can join that committee if you need.

3915
04:54:21,450 --> 04:54:25,170
Sandra, did you want to present all of this or did you want me just to go through it?

3916
04:54:25,170 --> 04:54:27,350
I want to do it.

3917
04:54:27,350 --> 04:54:33,330
Okay. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just I didn't want to you'd put so much time and effort into this and I'm sorry

3918
04:54:33,330 --> 04:54:35,590
I just kind of like okay, let's go

3919
04:54:35,590 --> 04:54:40,410
It's like no, so power points are put in there. So you can review the information right?

3920
04:54:40,410 --> 04:54:44,470
I don't have to persevere. Okay, we're not well, and we'll have to go through each slide.

3921
04:54:44,890 --> 04:54:51,190
Okay, that's like earlier we read the goals and objectives. Yeah, there you go. I need to know. Yeah, that would be great. That would be great.

3922
04:54:51,670 --> 04:54:56,670
Yes, but you have something else. You had a comment just over all about our committees.

3923
04:54:56,670 --> 04:55:23,590
You know, we've got some committees where the chair was selected some time ago, and maybe it's time to let somebody else become a chairperson within those committees, and you know what I'd like to encourage is for if you're a liaison, and of course, I don't know how to approach this, but where the members can re vote as to who's the chair and vice chair.

3924
04:55:25,290 --> 04:55:25,790
Usually

3925
04:55:31,900 --> 04:55:34,660
they have to have an election.

3926
04:55:55,150 --> 04:55:56,370
That's just part of the code.

3927
04:55:56,570 --> 04:55:58,390
I haven't been deaf than it.

3928
04:55:59,910 --> 04:56:02,550
I think they've also had rules, but like,

3929
04:56:02,610 --> 04:56:03,950
Earthwise doesn't have any rules.

3930
04:56:04,110 --> 04:56:05,690
They can do it whenever they want.

3931
04:56:06,270 --> 04:56:06,930
Part commission.

3932
04:56:07,250 --> 04:56:11,410
I don't think they have rules on that they have to.

3933
04:56:11,410 --> 04:56:14,590
but you're planning in the only board of the Jespins.

3934
04:56:14,970 --> 04:56:16,690
Board of the Judgment and CPACs,

3935
04:56:16,710 --> 04:56:21,730
so they have to set a goal, have voted when those audits take place.

3936
04:56:22,710 --> 04:56:24,150
I think the planning and knowing in particular,

3937
04:56:24,410 --> 04:56:27,830
as well as CPACs, we'll have to rebuild their officers.

3938
04:56:28,190 --> 04:56:31,530
Okay, so I don't think they'll recall ever seeing that.

3939
04:56:31,530 --> 04:56:32,810
Oh, yeah, thank you.

3940
04:56:33,350 --> 04:56:39,330
It's a term, yeah, it's a two year term, the chair and the vice chair.

3941
04:56:41,210 --> 04:56:46,100
because whatever that word is, whenever the mayor is elected, then there they do it.

3942
04:56:46,890 --> 04:56:47,830
Councillor Merch.

3943
04:56:48,350 --> 04:56:53,650
I would also like to encourage us to look at the attendance of some of the committee members

3944
04:56:53,650 --> 04:57:00,810
and if people have an issue with attendance and even if they reapply to be on that committee,

3945
04:57:01,370 --> 04:57:05,470
I'm not sure that we need to have people that don't show up.

3946
04:57:06,010 --> 04:57:07,030
I think that's a burden.

3947
04:57:07,510 --> 04:57:10,350
And that attendance roster is on some of these.

3948
04:57:10,550 --> 04:57:16,030
I didn't get it from everyone, but I think CPAC, planning and zoning board of adjustments

3949
04:57:16,030 --> 04:57:16,730
there in there.

3950
04:57:17,250 --> 04:57:17,970
And that's a good point.

3951
04:57:18,070 --> 04:57:20,350
I was just trying to pick it back on her statement.

3952
04:57:21,230 --> 04:57:25,290
And hopefully I become the liaison for CPAC again, but this one thing that I was going to emphasize

3953
04:57:25,290 --> 04:57:26,150
is attendance.

3954
04:57:28,650 --> 04:57:32,670
And there is some that, I mean, understand sometimes you just have to miss, but yes,

3955
04:57:32,670 --> 04:57:40,690
We can effort over the lives on this for that certain group to make emphasis that the attendance is vital.

3956
04:57:41,290 --> 04:57:42,090
Yes, ma'am.

3957
04:57:42,190 --> 04:57:47,530
In one example, within ten meetings, one member was absent six times.

3958
04:57:48,770 --> 04:57:52,010
So, you know, on which committee it was on the CPAC.

3959
04:57:52,410 --> 04:57:52,970
Oh, okay.

3960
04:57:53,850 --> 04:57:54,090
All right.

3961
04:57:55,050 --> 04:58:02,110
Well, it depends upon who's up this time.

3962
04:58:02,110 --> 04:58:07,290
And then if not, then we have to wait till the next year for the reappointment site.

3963
04:58:07,530 --> 04:58:08,710
I think. Don't we?

3964
04:58:08,730 --> 04:58:12,470
So we're only voting on May or two and four.

3965
04:58:12,610 --> 04:58:13,670
But I'm going to get you all back on track.

3966
04:58:13,810 --> 04:58:15,650
Let's get back to board on the board of adjustment.

3967
04:58:17,190 --> 04:58:26,350
So we've got the new person who applied because Mr. Perez did not reapply was

3968
04:58:26,350 --> 04:58:30,030
So we could have five to make a quorum.

3969
04:58:32,620 --> 04:58:38,220
So number one is there a motion to accept those five people,

3970
04:58:38,500 --> 04:58:41,200
and number two is there a motion for a council liaison.

3971
04:58:45,990 --> 04:58:48,450
I need two different things.

3972
04:58:50,480 --> 04:58:51,320
I can't be in the seat.

3973
04:58:51,700 --> 04:58:55,920
Yeah, just the five. Yeah, because Mr. Perez didn't reapply.

3974
04:58:56,200 --> 04:58:57,920
So go back to the previous life center.

3975
04:58:58,260 --> 04:59:01,160
Or the ones that this is the application.

3976
04:59:02,220 --> 04:59:06,140
Everybody else re-applied except for Mr. Luser.

3977
04:59:07,280 --> 04:59:09,880
So it is just the five right here that are on there.

3978
04:59:11,500 --> 04:59:13,840
Yeah, I'll make the motion to approve this five.

3979
04:59:14,160 --> 04:59:15,060
I'll second it.

3980
04:59:15,380 --> 04:59:20,020
All right, we have a motion by Councillor Arrasco and a second by Councillor Harrell to approve

3981
04:59:20,020 --> 04:59:25,160
the five applications submitted for the Board of Adjustment in front of us.

3982
04:59:26,200 --> 04:59:27,060
Any further discussion?

3983
04:59:27,360 --> 04:59:29,100
All those in favor say aye.

3984
04:59:29,100 --> 04:59:29,900
All right.

3985
04:59:30,160 --> 04:59:30,860
Any opposed?

3986
04:59:31,120 --> 04:59:32,300
The motion does carry.

3987
04:59:33,440 --> 04:59:38,600
Is there anyone on the board that would like to be appointed the council liaison to this

3988
04:59:38,600 --> 04:59:39,580
committee?

3989
04:59:41,180 --> 04:59:41,540
Yes.

3990
04:59:42,940 --> 04:59:45,720
I'd volunteer to be a council liaison for the Board of Adjustments.

3991
04:59:46,620 --> 04:59:51,060
So, then, may we have a motion for my amendment?

3992
04:59:51,760 --> 04:59:52,180
I was on.

3993
04:59:52,180 --> 04:59:52,900
I was on.

3994
04:59:53,040 --> 04:59:53,300
I was on.

3995
04:59:53,900 --> 04:59:54,700
Oh, okay.

3996
04:59:55,000 --> 04:59:55,880
Oh, it doesn't matter.

3997
04:59:56,120 --> 04:59:56,360
It's fine.

3998
04:59:56,580 --> 04:59:56,900
Okay.

3999
04:59:57,300 --> 04:59:57,980
All right.

4000
04:59:57,980 --> 04:59:59,520
Did you, would you rather be it?

4001
05:00:02,660 --> 05:00:06,800
We have a new committee that's saying one thing, so I thought that miss you didn't want to be addicted.

4002
05:00:06,800 --> 05:00:15,760
Did you want to do it again? Okay. So we'll let Councillor Halm, it will be appointed by acclamation, by the board.

4003
05:00:16,200 --> 05:00:23,760
So if we don't have to vote as the council liaison to the Board of Adjustment. Okay. Next is the Citizen Police Advisory Committee.

4004
05:00:25,200 --> 05:00:33,460
And that's the mayor, place two, and place four, and good thing is most everybody re-applied

4005
05:00:33,460 --> 05:00:34,720
for all of your committees.

4006
05:00:35,220 --> 05:00:36,040
Yeah, it was good.

4007
05:00:36,200 --> 05:00:43,440
I have three members that I had appointed two years ago, and they all had asked if they

4008
05:00:43,440 --> 05:00:49,460
could stay on, and of course, they only meet quarterly, so I said yes, and that would be Ronnie

4009
05:00:49,460 --> 05:00:49,940
Morgan,

4010
05:00:54,840 --> 05:00:59,760
Tina Chasin, and I believe Ellen Yarnel is mine as well. Is that right?

4011
05:01:00,320 --> 05:01:04,040
Is yours? Okay, who else is mine? Tina, who's there?

4012
05:01:04,940 --> 05:01:09,460
Oh, Donnie Brit, that's right. Donnie Brit, I forgot I had added him. So Tina Chasin,

4013
05:01:09,780 --> 05:01:13,760
Donnie Brit and Ronnie Morgan is who I would like to appoint as is my

4014
05:01:13,760 --> 05:01:17,180
appointments. Oh, I'm sorry. I went first. I should have gone last. I apologize.

4015
05:01:18,080 --> 05:01:20,640
Okay. So what do the different colors mean?

4016
05:01:20,640 --> 05:01:22,920
that these are the ones that are up.

4017
05:01:22,920 --> 05:01:23,440
I'm all right.

4018
05:01:23,980 --> 05:01:24,300
I'm all right.

4019
05:01:24,300 --> 05:01:24,500
I'm all right.

4020
05:01:24,920 --> 05:01:25,020
Okay.

4021
05:01:25,460 --> 05:01:27,000
So that's who I'd like to nominate.

4022
05:01:27,820 --> 05:01:29,320
But Councillor Heil, I'm sorry.

4023
05:01:29,460 --> 05:01:31,120
I didn't mean to take Olin from you.

4024
05:01:31,580 --> 05:01:33,720
I was ready to do that.

4025
05:01:33,980 --> 05:01:34,220
I was ready to do that.

4026
05:01:34,260 --> 05:01:34,780
Okay.

4027
05:01:35,880 --> 05:01:38,720
And I'll nominate Eric Mada and Olin, you're now.

4028
05:01:39,780 --> 05:01:42,060
And Mr. Arasca, who are you?

4029
05:01:42,660 --> 05:01:45,980
If I'm going to, it's not an nomination, it's an appointment.

4030
05:01:47,160 --> 05:01:53,800
because there's other people in there that, I'm sorry, but I'm going to stay with my original

4031
05:01:53,800 --> 05:01:57,080
ones, they're having their, I'm not going to get a Kim and Bill.

4032
05:01:57,440 --> 05:02:01,480
And I did get Mr. Hernandez's, oh, I think that's for your other committee, can you

4033
05:02:01,480 --> 05:02:01,960
remind?

4034
05:02:02,740 --> 05:02:03,700
We'll talk later.

4035
05:02:04,380 --> 05:02:12,180
Okay, so can I have a motion to approve the mayor place two in place four appointments for

4036
05:02:12,180 --> 05:02:13,840
the CPAC for the next two years?

4037
05:02:14,200 --> 05:02:14,580
Yes, Councillor.

4038
05:02:14,580 --> 05:02:21,580
I moved to approve the appointments by place 2 place 4 in the mayor for the CPAC for the next term.

4039
05:02:22,560 --> 05:02:23,520
Well second.

4040
05:02:23,900 --> 05:02:24,080
All right.

4041
05:02:24,160 --> 05:02:26,580
We have a motion by council.

4042
05:02:27,300 --> 05:02:27,660
Merchant.

4043
05:02:27,680 --> 05:02:30,480
The second by council are high all to a point.

4044
05:02:30,700 --> 05:02:36,400
Place 2 place 4 and the mayor's positions on CPAC as discussed.

4045
05:02:37,240 --> 05:02:38,840
All those in favor say aye.

4046
05:02:38,860 --> 05:02:39,260
Aye.

4047
05:02:39,540 --> 05:02:40,360
Any opposed?

4048
05:02:41,260 --> 05:02:42,780
And as far as the council liaison.

4049
05:02:42,780 --> 05:02:52,740
I'd like to stay if it is okay with my colleagues, I worked really hard to try to bring this back after they abolished it and I had to try to convince the concert at the time to bring it back.

4050
05:02:53,460 --> 05:02:56,260
So it may be my last two years and I would like to finish this off.

4051
05:02:56,680 --> 05:02:56,840
All right.

4052
05:02:57,280 --> 05:02:59,120
So by acclamation, is that all right?

4053
05:02:59,420 --> 05:03:00,720
We have a point.

4054
05:03:01,600 --> 05:03:05,480
Councillor Ray Arasco as the council liaison for the seat pack.

4055
05:03:07,680 --> 05:03:12,560
Next is the discussion and possible action on a resolution of the city of Leon Valley to a point.

4056
05:03:12,560 --> 05:03:18,020
Council members and a council liaison to the Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee.

4057
05:03:18,840 --> 05:03:25,560
And I would like to, I can't, but I can't nominate myself, but I'd like to try to be the liaison for this committee.

4058
05:03:25,920 --> 05:03:28,560
So I just want to throw that out unless somebody else wants it.

4059
05:03:28,960 --> 05:03:29,240
But anyway.

4060
05:03:29,660 --> 05:03:31,160
So this is for the Comprehensive Plan.

4061
05:03:31,160 --> 05:03:33,780
Yeah, it's, it's only, I'm calling the Compact.

4062
05:03:34,640 --> 05:03:34,660
Yeah.

4063
05:03:35,040 --> 05:03:37,740
It's only four to five meetings over 14 months.

4064
05:03:37,920 --> 05:03:38,880
So that's right.

4065
05:03:39,600 --> 05:03:41,220
All right.

4066
05:03:41,220 --> 05:03:46,420
I believe my wife Anna was trying to get on to this committee.

4067
05:03:46,760 --> 05:03:49,780
Oh, she, I don't know if she would not be in the other way.

4068
05:03:49,780 --> 05:03:52,100
Yeah, she put for economic development.

4069
05:03:52,100 --> 05:03:56,020
I don't know where that box was.

4070
05:03:56,140 --> 05:04:00,200
Oh, it was on the new application that I sent you all, but other people were just writing

4071
05:04:00,200 --> 05:04:03,020
it in, but I got it off the website, that's where I got it.

4072
05:04:03,020 --> 05:04:07,500
Oh, I sent it in to be updated, so I apologize, but the one I emailed to you all had

4073
05:04:07,500 --> 05:04:07,980
the correct.

4074
05:04:07,980 --> 05:04:14,060
But, I mean, that's up to y'all if you want a pointer to that, that's fine.

4075
05:04:14,220 --> 05:04:19,740
I did receive Mr. Hernandez's application, Councillor Roscoe, have five o'clock today.

4076
05:04:20,500 --> 05:04:22,840
So, no longer pending, but I do have-

4077
05:04:22,840 --> 05:04:24,920
Okay, so let's go through the council then.

4078
05:04:25,640 --> 05:04:29,200
So, Councillor Bolton, who are your two nominees for the comprehensive?

4079
05:04:40,750 --> 05:04:41,110
Okay.

4080
05:04:41,810 --> 05:04:45,270
Okay, and Councillor Heil.

4081
05:04:45,270 --> 05:04:48,530
I have Will Bradshaw and Russell Hernandez,

4082
05:04:51,020 --> 05:04:55,520
okay, and that's Betty, Kyle, okay, and

4083
05:04:55,520 --> 05:04:58,280
Councillor Compos, who are you?

4084
05:04:58,440 --> 05:05:01,340
The Matthew Hote in onocompos.

4085
05:05:05,650 --> 05:05:09,970
Yeah, everybody up there, it says received the only one that was pending was Mr. Hernandez.

4086
05:05:11,870 --> 05:05:14,350
Oh, Matthew Hote did submit to you.

4087
05:05:14,550 --> 05:05:17,170
But it was a wrong, we use the wrong form.

4088
05:05:17,530 --> 05:05:18,810
Did she not want to be on that other one?

4089
05:05:18,870 --> 05:05:19,270
No.

4090
05:05:19,270 --> 05:05:24,770
it was for this. Okay. That was the end, too. Okay. Okay, so we can we can

4091
05:05:24,770 --> 05:05:30,330
read just that. That's okay. Councillor. Oh, Councillor Arrasco and then I'll go

4092
05:05:30,330 --> 05:05:34,830
last. Go ahead. Let's go ahead. Let's go. Point, O'Lynn, you are now. And Jimmy

4093
05:05:34,830 --> 05:05:40,990
Hernandez, Jimmy Hernandez is the president of the HOA of O'Nanow. Oh, okay, great.

4094
05:05:41,490 --> 05:05:47,530
Good. Getting some new people. And Councillor Merch. My appointments are Cheryl Reyes

4095
05:05:47,530 --> 05:05:50,050
and Travis leaves, leech, okay.

4096
05:05:51,150 --> 05:05:55,110
All right, and my point is, the mayor of Portland,

4097
05:05:55,270 --> 05:05:57,150
is Destin Nieto.

4098
05:05:57,290 --> 05:06:03,310
I met him going door to door, and he wanted to be on a committee.

4099
05:06:03,390 --> 05:06:04,910
I thought he was going to be on the park committee,

4100
05:06:05,250 --> 05:06:07,170
but he reached out saying he wants to be

4101
05:06:07,170 --> 05:06:09,330
on the comprehensive planning committee.

4102
05:06:09,410 --> 05:06:10,690
So I thought, I was thrilled.

4103
05:06:10,950 --> 05:06:11,850
You have no idea.

4104
05:06:14,210 --> 05:06:19,770
Nester Vasquez, and he is a lives in Old Mill, so it's another

4105
05:06:19,770 --> 05:06:23,110
representing young, and so you know, a different perspective, because we're doing

4106
05:06:23,110 --> 05:06:28,090
long range here, and then Linda Meffert, who lives in a dare, so those are my three

4107
05:06:28,090 --> 05:06:28,430
appointments.

4108
05:06:30,390 --> 05:06:34,810
So, may I have a motion to accept those appointments as presented?

4109
05:06:39,320 --> 05:06:45,020
I make a motion that we accept that application or the applicants as just discussed.

4110
05:06:45,020 --> 05:06:54,320
Okay. And we have a motion by Councillor Bolton and the second by Councillor Kompos to approve the

4111
05:06:54,320 --> 05:07:01,600
Applications for the Comprehensive Planning Committee.

4112
05:07:02,240 --> 05:07:07,740
Planning Advisory Committee, excuse me, as discussed. All those in favor say aye.

4113
05:07:08,480 --> 05:07:11,180
Any opposed? The motion does carry. Okay.

4114
05:07:11,180 --> 05:07:17,180
So, I'd like to make a motion that the mayor be appointed as the council liaison to the compact.

4115
05:07:17,320 --> 05:07:18,620
I'd appreciate it.

4116
05:07:18,740 --> 05:07:19,100
That's okay.

4117
05:07:19,240 --> 05:07:19,460
Let's see.

4118
05:07:20,040 --> 05:07:20,340
Okay.

4119
05:07:20,540 --> 05:07:22,320
There's a motion by Councilor Merchant.

4120
05:07:22,500 --> 05:07:26,480
The second by Councilor Hile for my appointment to this liaison.

4121
05:07:26,860 --> 05:07:27,920
Thank you very much.

4122
05:07:28,080 --> 05:07:29,340
All those in favor say aye.

4123
05:07:29,380 --> 05:07:29,840
Aye.

4124
05:07:30,680 --> 05:07:31,280
Any opposed?

4125
05:07:32,020 --> 05:07:32,260
Okay.

4126
05:07:32,940 --> 05:07:33,500
Thank you.

4127
05:07:34,020 --> 05:07:35,100
I can't make my own motion.

4128
05:07:35,320 --> 05:07:35,860
That's the only thing.

4129
05:07:36,180 --> 05:07:36,820
So, thank you.

4130
05:07:36,880 --> 05:07:37,760
I appreciate that.

4131
05:07:37,840 --> 05:07:38,120
Okay.

4132
05:07:38,340 --> 05:07:38,760
I'm excited.

4133
05:07:40,260 --> 05:07:49,820
Okay, now we're going to the economic and the community development advisory, so Anna Compos will delete her.

4134
05:07:50,220 --> 05:07:50,860
Is that correct?

4135
05:07:51,820 --> 05:07:59,580
Okay, and so we have two remaining applicants, Theresa Moser, who is, is she new?

4136
05:08:00,680 --> 05:08:04,260
Yes, and then Ivonne is renewed, I believe.

4137
05:08:05,240 --> 05:08:09,280
So, may I have a motion for others up here?

4138
05:08:10,520 --> 05:08:11,620
There's your complete board.

4139
05:08:11,640 --> 05:08:12,520
Oh, they're staggered.

4140
05:08:12,980 --> 05:08:13,400
That's right.

4141
05:08:13,520 --> 05:08:16,620
So, Tiffany Bradfield's on it and so is Ms. Stotson.

4142
05:08:18,380 --> 05:08:26,000
So, Benjamin, he did not, he did not realize so Teresa could take his spot.

4143
05:08:26,120 --> 05:08:28,020
So, there'll still be four people on that committee.

4144
05:08:28,600 --> 05:08:28,660
All right.

4145
05:08:28,840 --> 05:08:31,940
May I have a motion for Teresa Moser and Ivana Rosco?

4146
05:08:33,880 --> 05:08:39,400
We have a motion by Councilor Kompos and second by Councilor Rosco to approve.

4147
05:08:39,860 --> 05:08:44,820
Theresa Moser and Ivana Roscoe for the Economic and Community Development Advisory Committee.

4148
05:08:45,400 --> 05:08:46,720
All those in favor say aye.

4149
05:08:47,480 --> 05:08:47,960
Any opposed?

4150
05:08:48,380 --> 05:08:49,480
The motion does carry.

4151
05:08:49,860 --> 05:08:51,220
What about a council liaison?

4152
05:08:51,260 --> 05:08:52,400
One does not have one.

4153
05:08:52,500 --> 05:08:53,400
You'll never point to anybody.

4154
05:08:54,220 --> 05:08:57,840
So is there anybody that wants to volunteer for that one?

4155
05:08:58,500 --> 05:08:58,660
Okay.

4156
05:08:59,600 --> 05:09:01,380
I'd volunteer for the council liaison.

4157
05:09:01,380 --> 05:09:06,380
All right, so Beth's merged by acclamation, is that all right?

4158
05:09:07,700 --> 05:09:12,580
All right, is that a council liaison to the economic and community development?

4159
05:09:13,560 --> 05:09:15,420
Okay, next is the library board.

4160
05:09:17,520 --> 05:09:19,820
Everybody, you have a full board, yeah.

4161
05:09:19,820 --> 05:09:21,700
Yes, but you have a brand new on you?

4162
05:09:22,000 --> 05:09:22,400
On you.

4163
05:09:22,560 --> 05:09:28,300
But there's somebody that didn't, they had one opening as I remember.

4164
05:09:28,300 --> 05:09:42,660
Yeah, Rachel Dotson did not reapply and hers, it was up, so Majo, right, onya, Marra, Marra,

4165
05:09:42,660 --> 05:09:49,920
Marra, would take that place, right. And then Hilary Huber, Linda, Cruz, and Margaret

4166
05:09:49,920 --> 05:09:53,060
over is reappointment or reapplying.

4167
05:09:57,100 --> 05:10:01,380
So may I have a motion for those four individual

4168
05:10:01,380 --> 05:10:04,960
applications for the Library Board, please?

4169
05:10:05,940 --> 05:10:06,260
Okay.

4170
05:10:09,260 --> 05:10:14,440
Okay, we have a motion by Mr. Roscoe and a second by Mr. Compos to approve the following

4171
05:10:14,440 --> 05:10:18,920
the four applications received for the Library Board. All those in favor say aye.

4172
05:10:19,360 --> 05:10:19,460
All right.

4173
05:10:19,460 --> 05:10:27,360
opposed, the motion does carry. Again, there's not a library liaison, but if anybody wants to apply.

4174
05:10:28,280 --> 05:10:38,580
Okay, then we'll move on to the part commission. So we've got the following applications that were submitted.

4175
05:10:39,580 --> 05:10:44,900
And I noted that Ann Sawyer and Joyce Trent did not renew.

4176
05:10:44,900 --> 05:10:52,960
So Jennifer Pasena, Elaine Valdez, Roger Christianson, John Hart, Tiffany Brett, Bradfield,

4177
05:10:53,140 --> 05:10:59,280
Tara Patterson, and Diana Frazier, may have a motion to approve those applicants.

4178
05:10:59,780 --> 05:11:01,060
I have a question.

4179
05:11:02,160 --> 05:11:05,160
So I know that people can only be on two committees.

4180
05:11:06,380 --> 05:11:11,660
So Tiffany has already been appointed to the Economic and Community Development and she's

4181
05:11:14,060 --> 05:11:21,100
She'll move up, she'll move up because the Joyce Trant and Ann Sawyer did not-

4182
05:11:21,100 --> 05:11:22,380
So she'll move up.

4183
05:11:22,620 --> 05:11:23,920
So there's only her second committee.

4184
05:11:28,630 --> 05:11:29,770
There's still a committee.

4185
05:11:32,010 --> 05:11:34,270
Okay, so may have a motion to approve.

4186
05:11:34,570 --> 05:11:37,670
I moved to approve the applications.

4187
05:11:38,430 --> 05:11:42,810
A motion by Councillor Merch and a second by Councillor Hal to approve.

4188
05:11:42,810 --> 05:11:47,350
the individuals who applied for the Park Commission, all those in favor say aye.

4189
05:11:47,350 --> 05:11:47,650
Aye.

4190
05:11:48,070 --> 05:11:51,290
In a post, the motion carries.

4191
05:11:53,130 --> 05:11:58,790
And would you like to remain in the LAs on that would be Danielle Bolton City Council Member

4192
05:11:58,790 --> 05:12:00,530
Danielle Bolton by acclamation.

4193
05:12:03,090 --> 05:12:06,370
Next, we've got the Planning and Sowning Commission.

4194
05:12:07,390 --> 05:12:07,990
So,

4195
05:12:10,690 --> 05:12:11,510
there we go.

4196
05:12:12,110 --> 05:12:13,950
Is that the, there we go.

4197
05:12:13,950 --> 05:12:23,270
Thank you. So we have Richard Blackmore Andrea Roof, Donny Britt, Eric Mata, and Tiffany Bradfield, and then a point of counsel liaison.

4198
05:12:28,040 --> 05:12:37,000
So let's look at that because they're staggered terms, and then there's also, yeah, planning and zoning.

4199
05:12:37,000 --> 05:12:46,000
So Dave Perry already has another year on his Andrea Roof is reapplied. Abraham DS has another year.

4200
05:12:46,780 --> 05:12:52,980
Donnie Britz reapplied. Owling your nail has another year. Eric Modet has reapplied.

4201
05:12:53,340 --> 05:12:57,540
And Russell Hernandez and then that remorse. Their terms are not up.

4202
05:12:57,540 --> 05:12:58,540
So,

4203
05:13:04,720 --> 05:13:16,220
let's see who else, so it would be Richard Blattmore and Tiffany Bradfield would not be eligible because she's on two committees already.

4204
05:13:18,600 --> 05:13:21,060
So, what's the pleasure of the council?

4205
05:13:24,510 --> 05:13:28,470
I'm just, I move that we approve Richard Blattmore.

4206
05:13:31,680 --> 05:13:33,120
So this is a mirror appointment?

4207
05:13:34,200 --> 05:13:35,500
No, there's not a mirror appointment.

4208
05:13:38,280 --> 05:13:43,700
Yeah, I just have a concern because we had a conflict on the board with some of the members.

4209
05:13:43,920 --> 05:13:49,260
I mean, with the one that you want to point, and another current member, I don't know.

4210
05:13:49,380 --> 05:13:50,700
I mean, I don't know how that's.

4211
05:13:50,820 --> 05:13:54,820
Well, his application is up to you, so you don't have to re-appoint him and you can re-appoint

4212
05:13:54,820 --> 05:13:56,140
Mr. but I'm not.

4213
05:13:56,180 --> 05:13:56,360
Yeah.

4214
05:13:56,620 --> 05:14:01,880
Please, I don't want to get political and he's going to, you know, I'm just saying that all

4215
05:14:01,880 --> 05:14:04,240
These are up to four replacements.

4216
05:14:04,760 --> 05:14:12,480
So but this is a mayor appointment and a council reaffirm her appointment based on your code, yes.

4217
05:14:13,100 --> 05:14:16,180
So it's her recommendation, so whatever your recommendation is mayor.

4218
05:14:23,670 --> 05:14:35,230
I agree that it's been a very contentious committee, and I know I was an alternate on it and it was it was a very challenging environment.

4219
05:14:36,730 --> 05:14:39,650
And so I

4220
05:14:43,720 --> 05:14:48,760
would approve, I would recommend Andrew Roof Diabrist and Dany Britt and

4221
05:14:48,760 --> 05:14:52,300
but between the two remaining,

4222
05:14:55,570 --> 05:14:59,010
I would recommend one, but not both.

4223
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:06,400
No, because she's already gone too committee. And I think the two of me don't say park and planning.

4224
05:15:06,640 --> 05:15:09,000
Park is on Thursdays.

4225
05:15:19,900 --> 05:15:20,340
Well,

4226
05:15:24,480 --> 05:15:25,920
I just have to have, I mean.

4227
05:15:29,920 --> 05:15:31,580
She's not contemplating that.

4228
05:15:31,640 --> 05:15:31,720
I'm not sure.

4229
05:15:32,560 --> 05:15:37,560
It's a Richard Biber, Marda, and I guess I would, I

4230
05:15:39,960 --> 05:15:42,640
would, I'd like some input from me all, I mean, does it?

4231
05:15:42,640 --> 05:15:47,600
Is it an Eric on CPAC and on planning on the summer?

4232
05:15:48,020 --> 05:15:48,640
Excuse me.

4233
05:15:49,280 --> 05:15:50,660
Excuse me on two committees?

4234
05:15:51,300 --> 05:15:53,120
He's on CPAC and planning and zoning.

4235
05:15:53,380 --> 05:15:55,740
Your comprehensive master plan committee is not.

4236
05:15:55,760 --> 05:15:56,660
It's an ad hoc committee.

4237
05:15:58,640 --> 05:15:58,720
Yeah.

4238
05:15:58,720 --> 05:15:59,060
I'm sorry.

4239
05:15:59,740 --> 05:16:00,260
No.

4240
05:16:00,340 --> 05:16:00,900
Your ad.

4241
05:16:01,060 --> 05:16:02,720
You have unlimited ad hoc committee.

4242
05:16:03,400 --> 05:16:08,100
The only ad hoc committee that you currently have right now is your comprehensive master plan committees.

4243
05:16:08,300 --> 05:16:09,260
Your only ad hoc committee.

4244
05:16:09,760 --> 05:16:10,640
Because it has a sunset.

4245
05:16:10,640 --> 05:16:13,200
after you've completed the task that committee goes away.

4246
05:16:13,740 --> 05:16:14,620
So sometimes you have multiple,

4247
05:16:14,900 --> 05:16:17,920
sometimes we have one like when we're doing the bond oversight

4248
05:16:17,920 --> 05:16:20,380
or sometimes you have multiple ad hoc committees.

4249
05:16:20,540 --> 05:16:22,680
So that's why people can be all multiple ad hoc committees.

4250
05:16:23,260 --> 05:16:26,000
Right now though, your only one is your comprehensive master plan.

4251
05:16:26,240 --> 05:16:27,260
That's your OK ad hoc committee.

4252
05:16:29,300 --> 05:16:32,260
Well, I go ahead and recommend Andrew Roof,

4253
05:16:32,420 --> 05:16:37,870
Donny Britt and Eric Mata to fill those positions.

4254
05:16:38,530 --> 05:16:41,810
They're current and they'd like to be reappointed.

4255
05:16:41,810 --> 05:16:44,810
So I will do that.

4256
05:16:45,110 --> 05:16:49,310
That's my recommendation, but if somebody wants to.

4257
05:16:49,390 --> 05:16:50,990
Figure out with Ruth and Martha?

4258
05:16:51,230 --> 05:16:54,910
Well, the three dead are currently on the board that want re-appointments.

4259
05:16:55,730 --> 05:16:57,030
Yes, I think that's

4260
05:16:59,690 --> 05:17:02,450
the, at this time, is what I would recommend.

4261
05:17:02,710 --> 05:17:04,630
So one of the council members needs to make a motion.

4262
05:17:04,830 --> 05:17:08,330
Yeah, I can't make a motion unless you all want to make another motion.

4263
05:17:08,590 --> 05:17:10,090
So that's up to you all.

4264
05:17:10,090 --> 05:17:16,030
And if you look at the attendance, what does the attendance look like?

4265
05:17:19,060 --> 05:17:21,140
Was that attendance the right one?

4266
05:17:21,380 --> 05:17:23,460
No, it's 23 to come.

4267
05:17:23,480 --> 05:17:24,540
Because I was on there.

4268
05:17:24,780 --> 05:17:25,140
How's everyone?

4269
05:17:26,020 --> 05:17:27,580
He sent it to me on Friday.

4270
05:17:28,040 --> 05:17:28,680
No, no, it's 23.

4271
05:17:29,620 --> 05:17:30,260
I'm at 23.

4272
05:17:30,880 --> 05:17:33,700
But you do also still have two alternate positions to fill.

4273
05:17:34,100 --> 05:17:35,560
A lot of their points, great.

4274
05:17:36,420 --> 05:17:37,700
Those are the three I'm recommending.

4275
05:17:39,220 --> 05:17:45,840
So, this particular board, per the code, the mayor is the one that makes the recommended appointment.

4276
05:17:46,300 --> 05:17:47,740
You'll have to make a recommended appointment.

4277
05:17:48,280 --> 05:17:51,840
You are going to vote her recommendations, yes or no.

4278
05:17:52,140 --> 05:17:57,280
And if you're answer is no, then she has to go back and come back with another appointment.

4279
05:17:57,660 --> 05:18:00,880
It doesn't have to be tonight. She's supposed to come back and make another recommendation.

4280
05:18:01,440 --> 05:18:05,520
There are some, there's a number of days, but she's got to come back and make another recommendation.

4281
05:18:05,520 --> 05:18:12,520
her recommendation are those three, so somebody on the council either makes a motion to appoint those three or not.

4282
05:18:14,360 --> 05:18:26,440
As far as the attendance goes, it should be a two year, it should be the last, from the last two, when they were appointed last, which was two year, two year terms, you should have two years worth of roster.

4283
05:18:27,060 --> 05:18:29,300
But what we have in our packet is 23.

4284
05:18:30,940 --> 05:18:36,180
But I will say, Andrew Roof, Donny, Brit, and Eric Moth, that don't have an attendance problem with yours.

4285
05:18:36,320 --> 05:18:37,940
I'm at almost every zoning commission meeting.

4286
05:18:38,420 --> 05:18:41,620
You don't have an attendance issue with those three.

4287
05:18:42,300 --> 05:18:44,520
Or if you do, like, not a, they call it.

4288
05:18:44,640 --> 05:18:49,300
Like, so Mrs. Roof sometimes can't make it, but she always calls, and says she can't make it.

4289
05:18:50,260 --> 05:18:52,680
But she's pretty much here for most of the meetings.

4290
05:18:53,260 --> 05:18:56,500
Well, there's Richard Blackmore eligible to be an alternate?

4291
05:18:56,780 --> 05:18:57,180
Yes.

4292
05:18:57,180 --> 05:19:00,160
but that's not her appointment right now.

4293
05:19:00,320 --> 05:19:02,420
So you all have to vote on her recommendation right now.

4294
05:19:02,780 --> 05:19:04,580
Then you can make suggestions to her,

4295
05:19:04,660 --> 05:19:07,040
but she doesn't have to take your recommendation.

4296
05:19:07,700 --> 05:19:10,120
So right now it's the three that she's recommending

4297
05:19:10,840 --> 05:19:12,520
somebody needs to make a motion

4298
05:19:12,520 --> 05:19:15,180
to accept those recommendations or not.

4299
05:19:15,800 --> 05:19:17,360
Okay, I'll make a motion that we accept

4300
05:19:17,360 --> 05:19:18,560
the mayor's recommendation.

4301
05:19:18,780 --> 05:19:20,000
I'll second it.

4302
05:19:20,300 --> 05:19:22,300
All right, we have a motion by Councillor.

4303
05:19:22,300 --> 05:19:30,660
and a second by Council Highell to approve the three applicants as discussed for the planning

4304
05:19:30,660 --> 05:19:34,900
and zoning. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye?

4305
05:19:35,740 --> 05:19:37,680
Aye. Any opposed? The motion desk carry.

4306
05:19:38,840 --> 05:19:44,760
Okay. And so then Mayor, at some point you need to make a recommendation on the other, it

4307
05:19:44,760 --> 05:19:52,280
doesn't have to be those applicants, but you need to make a recommendation on to fill the

4308
05:19:53,650 --> 05:19:59,990
right now. No, no, no, I'm just saying the future. Oh yeah, I happen to happen. So everybody

4309
05:19:59,990 --> 05:20:04,950
knows we're not just ignoring those decisions. I try to get, yeah, or it could be these

4310
05:20:04,950 --> 05:20:09,970
as the next week. Okay, so now, Councillor Liaison, Mr. Compass, did you want to continue

4311
05:20:09,970 --> 05:20:18,630
in that position? Okay. All right. By exclamation, we'll appoint Councillor Compass as to Liaison

4312
05:20:18,630 --> 05:20:22,350
to the planning and zoning. Okay, very good. Thank you.

4313
05:20:22,410 --> 05:20:30,190
Thank you so much. Yeah. Appreciate it, Sandra. Thank you so much. All right, agenda, agenda item number

4314
05:20:30,190 --> 05:20:35,010
eight, request from the members of Council to add future agenda items. Anyone?

4315
05:20:37,110 --> 05:20:37,870
Okay, that's

4316
05:20:37,870 --> 05:20:43,770
very true. And then also, I just wanted to add, though, I think, as per, we've kind of talked

4317
05:20:43,770 --> 05:20:49,630
about it in the past. But when we come back in July and August, and September, or just

4318
05:20:49,630 --> 05:20:56,210
July and August, we are casual for the summer. Oh, yeah. I just want to let, and September

4319
05:20:56,210 --> 05:20:57,210
too.

4320
05:21:00,590 --> 05:21:08,570
It's pretty hot. So let's say September, and August and September, we dress down.

4321
05:21:13,390 --> 05:21:13,530
Okay,

4322
05:21:13,530 --> 05:21:16,110
Yeah, because it's business cash, that's right.

4323
05:21:16,490 --> 05:21:43,450
Okay, yes ma'am, there's nobody left here but I have to make a note, this 103-year-old lady sent the mayor a thank you note, it was incredible, her handwriting was so beautiful, and it's in my office, I put it in my office, it was just, she's amazing, she's 103 years old, and she said she wanted to thank the mayor and she asked me five times.

4324
05:21:44,590 --> 05:21:49,370
at the at the lunch at where's the mayor. I said I'm sorry she could make it. Then she

4325
05:21:49,370 --> 05:21:54,030
will back again and then she finally went through her purse and found her little note. And

4326
05:21:54,030 --> 05:22:00,890
it was the same thing. It was wonderful. But her writing is so perfect. It was amazing. It was

4327
05:22:00,890 --> 05:22:07,190
wonderful. It was wonderful. I cherished that forever. Yeah. Warden is wonderful. Just wonderful.

4328
05:22:07,810 --> 05:22:13,310
Yeah, she's great. I mean I hope I'm that way 103. That's all I got to say. Okay.

4329
05:22:13,310 --> 05:22:20,530
All right, we all sure you don't want to stay at all midnight. It's 1042. Come on. I've got some slumber party. Hey, over.

4330
05:22:21,210 --> 05:22:32,610
Dr. Calder. Yeah. I don't if I could meet with you and or David regarding the Elverty Road ditch.

4331
05:22:32,790 --> 05:22:41,490
Yes. So we so there's still. So yes, you can. We can certainly meet with you on it.

4332
05:22:41,490 --> 05:22:48,170
Mr. Hindley and Holy sent something in today and regards to that property we were in agreement with him or meeting with the contractors

4333
05:22:48,170 --> 05:22:54,850
We're getting it fixed. I think sometimes the residents call us. We work on it, and then they jump to y'all like we're not going to work on it

4334
05:22:54,850 --> 05:23:00,270
The weather is kind of holding some stuff back so the same thing with Mr. Butetta's project

4335
05:23:00,270 --> 05:23:05,630
Yes, part of the driveway is in his neighbor's property line. We've already agreed to fix it, and that he keeps

4336
05:23:07,210 --> 05:23:10,550
Messaging y'all like us. It's on the it's on the list

4337
05:23:10,550 --> 05:23:14,590
it's on the punchless, it's, as you can tell, the weather, everything's got to dry

4338
05:23:14,590 --> 05:23:19,890
out in order for us to, to be able to finish making those punchless changes. Now I do

4339
05:23:19,890 --> 05:23:24,390
know that there are, some things that aren't going to be changed, like, they're just part

4340
05:23:24,390 --> 05:23:29,130
of the plans, they're just not, they don't, you know. And so we can have a conversation

4341
05:23:29,130 --> 05:23:33,150
of what that looks like. But there are certain things. Mr. Haudy's property in the way it

4342
05:23:33,150 --> 05:23:36,970
kind of clips off a little bit, and the way we've already got it, we're, David's already

4343
05:23:36,970 --> 05:23:42,250
called the contractor, we're on it, and so if you've got other stuff, we can certainly meet with you on that.

4344
05:23:42,690 --> 05:23:45,490
So what surprised me is the standing water.

4345
05:23:46,230 --> 05:23:54,430
You know, I don't know if that, if the correct term is a culvert, whether that is supposed to drain the water in a certain direction.

4346
05:23:55,250 --> 05:23:58,370
But there was a lot of standing water yesterday when I went bison.

4347
05:23:59,070 --> 05:24:02,450
So most of the barages are flowing the way that they're supposed to be.

4348
05:24:02,450 --> 05:24:05,070
like we've been checking as it's been right next to today.

4349
05:24:05,290 --> 05:24:07,370
It's raining, we'll go out there's the majority of them.

4350
05:24:07,630 --> 05:24:11,370
There are a few that have some standing water.

4351
05:24:11,890 --> 05:24:14,170
Now, some of the greenery will have puddle,

4352
05:24:14,470 --> 05:24:15,510
like you're not going to get rid of all the puddles,

4353
05:24:15,630 --> 05:24:17,330
but the amount that was taken in the picture

4354
05:24:17,330 --> 05:24:19,190
that was provided, yes, we agree.

4355
05:24:19,570 --> 05:24:20,770
And so we're working with the contractor

4356
05:24:20,770 --> 05:24:24,290
to make sure that the elevations are correct

4357
05:24:24,290 --> 05:24:25,950
on that particular barredage.

4358
05:24:26,230 --> 05:24:27,510
Now all of them are that way.

4359
05:24:27,790 --> 05:24:29,950
There are a few pockets that are and where

4360
05:24:29,950 --> 05:24:34,770
of those and we're that's part of the punch list and so we love the rain because we get to

4361
05:24:34,770 --> 05:24:39,090
make sure that this drainage project is working the way it's going to work but to say that

4362
05:24:39,090 --> 05:24:44,970
there's going to be zero water there after a rain that's also not an accurate assumption either.

4363
05:24:45,130 --> 05:24:53,230
But yes we well it was interesting is it hadn't rained okay recently and and for the amount

4364
05:24:53,230 --> 05:24:57,830
of water that was pumped. That was the water truck. So every day at the end of the project

4365
05:24:57,830 --> 05:25:02,530
per Mr. Baudetta, he wanted it watered down because of the dust overflow, so we water every

4366
05:25:02,530 --> 05:25:09,430
day at five, and so sometimes the trucks say sedentary, watering one location, whether it's

4367
05:25:09,430 --> 05:25:16,070
waiting for a delivery truck to pass, whether it's sedentary, whatever the reason is, so sometimes

4368
05:25:16,070 --> 05:25:21,350
that water truck stays there, and there's a lot of water flow there. So I don't, and I'm

4369
05:25:21,350 --> 05:25:25,750
going to say it's 100% the water truck is I didn't see it, that's what we've been told so far,

4370
05:25:25,750 --> 05:25:30,150
is even though there's been no rain and there's water every day at five, even if the ground

4371
05:25:30,150 --> 05:25:35,610
is saturated, per the agreement in order to satisfy Mr. Butetta's request, we're watering

4372
05:25:35,610 --> 05:25:40,190
down every day at five. So there was no like, it rained this day, it didn't rain this

4373
05:25:40,190 --> 05:25:48,190
day, because we were, because what happens were we would say, okay, when it's dusty,

4374
05:25:55,730 --> 05:25:55,730
you

4375
05:25:55,730 --> 05:26:01,550
So I have some residents that don't want the water and have some residents on the street that

4376
05:26:01,550 --> 05:26:03,530
want us to do it every single day no matter what.

4377
05:26:04,090 --> 05:26:09,550
And so I'm siding with Mr. Bredetta on this one just because he called me every.

4378
05:26:11,530 --> 05:26:15,450
And so we are watering every day at five and so that.

4379
05:26:15,650 --> 05:26:20,730
So even though the ground is saturated from the rain, we're trying to keep the dust that day from

4380
05:26:21,710 --> 05:26:24,430
some of the residents, I'm going to say some of the residents that live on already.

4381
05:26:24,430 --> 05:26:26,510
Thank you.

4382
05:26:26,690 --> 05:26:27,010
You welcome.

4383
05:26:27,590 --> 05:26:29,890
But yes, you might want to go walk the area with us number eight.

4384
05:26:30,330 --> 05:26:30,350
The engineers.

4385
05:26:30,710 --> 05:26:30,850
Sorry.

4386
05:26:31,110 --> 05:26:31,970
Did you do number eight?

4387
05:26:32,150 --> 05:26:33,270
Did you have anything?

4388
05:26:33,410 --> 05:26:34,270
I did say any.

4389
05:26:34,270 --> 05:26:34,590
Yes.

4390
05:26:34,650 --> 05:26:35,170
Future agenda.

4391
05:26:35,330 --> 05:26:36,310
I did read.

4392
05:26:37,290 --> 05:26:37,770
But that's okay.

4393
05:26:37,950 --> 05:26:39,110
We can let you go back.

4394
05:26:39,510 --> 05:26:40,950
We'll let you go back.

4395
05:26:41,070 --> 05:26:41,250
Okay.

4396
05:26:41,710 --> 05:26:42,390
Like I'm saying.

4397
05:26:42,650 --> 05:26:42,970
Sorry.

4398
05:26:43,410 --> 05:26:45,770
I got lost in the watering here.

4399
05:26:45,950 --> 05:26:46,630
You know.

4400
05:26:48,770 --> 05:26:50,110
For our budget.

4401
05:26:50,650 --> 05:26:53,930
Today we had the streets sweeper come into Pavona.

4402
05:26:54,410 --> 05:26:57,070
and he left more stuff than he picked up.

4403
05:26:57,510 --> 05:26:59,290
And I know it's an O-clunker.

4404
05:26:59,690 --> 05:27:02,390
And I know if we can kind of let us know,

4405
05:27:02,490 --> 05:27:04,670
what is it that we need to put in our budget to fix it

4406
05:27:04,670 --> 05:27:05,870
or maybe even get another one?

4407
05:27:06,110 --> 05:27:09,350
I know it's a Christmas wish list, I know.

4408
05:27:09,810 --> 05:27:10,510
Actually it's not.

4409
05:27:11,150 --> 05:27:12,030
It's not at all.

4410
05:27:12,190 --> 05:27:14,230
Is it 200,000 or something like that?

4411
05:27:14,490 --> 05:27:16,070
It's a little bit more than that now.

4412
05:27:16,270 --> 05:27:18,370
I think that's what we paid 200,000.

4413
05:27:18,370 --> 05:27:20,790
Yeah, but it doesn't well back now.

4414
05:27:21,150 --> 05:27:21,950
So yes, it's gone up.

4415
05:27:21,950 --> 05:27:26,550
know we can take a look at your street maintenance fund and so instead of budgeting it all for

4416
05:27:26,550 --> 05:27:31,290
street maintenance you can take a chunk of it and put it that way you run out of stormwater

4417
05:27:31,290 --> 05:27:36,990
money you don't have to do the erosion and pay a portion of the year. I know they're not cheap but

4418
05:27:36,990 --> 05:27:41,230
no they're not but you can split it at the big thing with their street super isn't that it's old

4419
05:27:41,230 --> 05:27:46,530
it's not that it's old it's depending on how much stuff is in the street what's in the street

4420
05:27:46,530 --> 05:27:54,590
How many years you're getting into it out then is that it yeah, I could be the opera it could be up it could be operator error it could be

4421
05:27:56,230 --> 05:28:03,850
A very very it a different thing. So let me find out what happened or what went on with it or what's going on with it. Maybe it is broken. Maybe it's not doing what it's supposed to do.

4422
05:28:06,230 --> 05:28:08,570
But we'll go behind it as free behind it

4423
05:28:09,710 --> 05:28:15,650
So let me get with let me get with David and see what that's doing and then I'll get back to you and if we need to add it will add it to

4424
05:28:15,650 --> 05:28:16,610
I don't want to have your budget.

4425
05:28:17,550 --> 05:28:19,730
There's a good retirement game.

4426
05:28:20,230 --> 05:28:21,190
It's going to be behind the streets.

4427
05:28:21,530 --> 05:28:22,990
I was like, okay.

4428
05:28:22,990 --> 05:28:24,530
The thing with the blowers stuff, yeah.

4429
05:28:24,690 --> 05:28:24,770
Yeah.

4430
05:28:25,050 --> 05:28:26,750
He has so much time.

4431
05:28:27,750 --> 05:28:28,050
Okay.

4432
05:28:28,270 --> 05:28:29,830
Are y'all sure you want to go home?

4433
05:28:30,150 --> 05:28:30,410
Okay.

4434
05:28:30,550 --> 05:28:30,750
10.

4435
05:28:30,870 --> 05:28:31,250
48.

4436
05:28:32,170 --> 05:28:32,850
On Tuesday.

4437
05:28:33,210 --> 05:28:33,490
June.

4438
05:28:33,770 --> 05:28:34,390
The second.

4439
05:28:34,790 --> 05:28:35,230
Take care.

4440
05:28:35,730 --> 05:28:36,610
We'll see you in July.

4441
05:28:37,430 --> 05:28:38,070
Bye-bye.

4442
05:28:38,330 --> 05:28:39,050
I know we'll see you Saturday.

4443
05:28:39,270 --> 05:28:40,390
Well, I know we'll see you Saturday.

4444
05:28:40,410 --> 05:28:42,110
I met the citizens.

4445
05:28:42,810 --> 05:28:42,910
Yes.

4446
05:28:43,410 --> 05:28:44,870
But they're invited too.

4447
05:28:58,150 --> 05:29:00,870
We're a pacifist, they have lunch and ring your own taco.

4448
05:29:02,030 --> 05:29:05,370
She says she's going to feed us guys.

4449
05:29:06,810 --> 05:29:08,430
I already asked that.

4450
05:29:08,610 --> 05:29:09,270
Let me tell you.

4451
05:29:10,390 --> 05:29:11,530
We'll see you later.

4452
05:29:12,450 --> 05:29:13,370
Oh, ma'am.

4453
05:29:13,870 --> 05:29:15,350
You wouldn't have a tune of 70 attacks.

4454
05:29:16,070 --> 05:29:16,210
All right.

4455
05:29:16,950 --> 05:29:18,710
And she said we're sons in the hospital.

4456
05:29:19,510 --> 05:29:21,930
But if you broke his leg, it's me who's broken.

4457
05:29:23,930 --> 05:29:26,690
I mean, he said, she said they don't know.

4458
05:29:26,690 --> 05:29:27,710
Give it to her like that.

4459
05:29:27,710 --> 05:29:31,390
And she sent me a picture of this young man.

4460
05:29:31,710 --> 05:29:35,030
And I sent her back and I said, who is this?

4461
05:29:35,310 --> 05:29:36,530
Because I didn't recognize them.

4462
05:29:37,050 --> 05:29:39,030
And she's getting through the sign, I'm sorry.

4463
05:29:39,530 --> 05:29:40,090
It's her son.

4464
05:29:41,570 --> 05:29:42,910
And that somehow he broke his beaver,

4465
05:29:42,930 --> 05:29:45,230
and they did surgery, and they did all this stuff.

4466
05:29:45,990 --> 05:29:47,330
So, which is so cute.

4467
05:29:47,330 --> 05:29:50,830
I've heard of so many people who left and they got him.

4468
05:29:51,450 --> 05:29:55,290
Oh, I'm so aware that he used to work in our law

4469
05:29:55,290 --> 05:29:59,870
You know, the minutes, the years go to add it to the police, I've got the way to 84, I think.

4470
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:09,740
And last, Thanksgiving, we haven't seen them. We talked a lot because he and he still works on some kind of still settles cases when it's a full-term battle, you know.

4471
05:30:10,080 --> 05:30:19,060
Just talking to anybody and anything. Anyway, he comes in as we've come and he says, don't want Thanksgiving last year.

4472
05:30:28,040 --> 05:30:34,060
I'm going to be here at three thirty. I was thinking at five I just winged by maybe about five

4473
05:30:34,060 --> 05:30:36,040
because I'm on my way from here.

4474
05:30:36,460 --> 05:30:38,380
Well, I don't know, just, you know, just...

4475
05:30:41,300 --> 05:30:44,240
I'll let you know, I'll let you know.

4476
05:30:44,560 --> 05:30:45,800
Of course now it's...

4477
05:30:46,280 --> 05:30:48,560
so I probably won't be in bed till too.

4478
05:30:48,760 --> 05:30:50,080
Knowing me, you know, I'm just kind of,

4479
05:30:51,160 --> 05:30:52,980
and here's all this.

4480
05:30:53,180 --> 05:30:54,500
You can get it to you.

4481
05:30:57,480 --> 05:30:59,960
I'm pleasantly surprised that...

4482
05:30:59,960 --> 05:31:00,680
you know?

4483
05:31:29,540 --> 05:31:33,020
I think the idea is that I've found a better way that this is good,

4484
05:31:33,020 --> 05:31:34,120
I don't know when they don't show me.

4485
05:31:39,180 --> 05:31:40,460
Look, I don't like the sheets.

4486
05:31:41,500 --> 05:31:42,960
I just couldn't put it.

4487
05:31:47,620 --> 05:31:48,560
I mean, I just couldn't.

4488
05:31:50,810 --> 05:31:51,590
I didn't train.

4489
05:31:51,850 --> 05:31:52,670
I didn't work together.

4490
05:32:08,100 --> 05:32:09,420
I'm at every meeting.

4491
05:32:09,820 --> 05:32:10,900
I didn't want to paint today.

4492
05:32:12,560 --> 05:32:12,740
Yep.

4493
05:32:13,140 --> 05:32:13,420
Correct.

4494
05:32:14,540 --> 05:32:16,980
That everybody's name, right?

4495
05:32:17,660 --> 05:32:17,860
I don't know.

4496
05:32:17,860 --> 05:32:21,740
And I'll keep not like those doors from walking north.

4497
05:32:22,340 --> 05:32:22,540
I don't know.

4498
05:32:22,860 --> 05:32:24,640
A lot of people like the Cheryl.

4499
05:32:25,300 --> 05:32:30,060
That version is that one. She's going to go.

4500
05:32:38,630 --> 05:32:39,910
She's a child, though.

4501
05:32:40,210 --> 05:32:42,270
And then we have to see it.

4502
05:32:45,960 --> 05:32:47,340
It's been a whole year, actually.

4503
05:32:57,280 --> 05:33:00,320
Well, I'll be near to me. I'm going to, I'm getting my toes down to 3.30.

4504
05:33:00,520 --> 05:33:03,040
So I thought, let me do it. I'm going to wait down.

4505
05:33:03,440 --> 05:33:05,520
I mean, I wanted 4.30 and she's not going to go in.

4506
05:33:05,680 --> 05:33:07,840
I'm like, okay, I'll do it. I'm just going to leave the office.

4507
05:33:08,080 --> 05:33:09,420
But then I'm just going to come down like that.

4508
05:33:09,480 --> 05:33:11,040
Maybe I'll just stop in now. I don't know.

4509
05:33:11,460 --> 05:33:12,660
I'm going to have a live list.

4510
05:33:13,420 --> 05:33:15,500
But, you know, oh, look at him. He's gone for Ella.

4511
05:33:15,500 --> 05:33:18,980
It's a piece of bed, that's the best thing to do, actually.

4512
05:33:19,540 --> 05:33:23,660
So if you go over all, oh, we provide, you know?

4513
05:33:23,940 --> 05:33:27,980
You know, the first one, I should know if I have to do those results though.

4514
05:33:28,800 --> 05:33:29,960
I'm still inactive.

4515
05:33:30,180 --> 05:33:31,120
It's not the water.

4516
05:33:31,640 --> 05:33:33,880
And all I would do is that I've got to do that one, but

4517
05:33:39,190 --> 05:33:40,910
I'm not going to damage the water.

4518
05:33:41,490 --> 05:33:43,430
Well, the thing is, is that I'm going to go back there.

4519
05:33:43,650 --> 05:33:45,430
I mean, I think we've burned out our staff.

4520
05:33:45,510 --> 05:33:46,950
That's the other thing I'm concerned about.

4521
05:33:47,430 --> 05:33:49,730
And we've been so lucky again.

4522
05:33:57,680 --> 05:34:01,140
I think it's like getting the reason.

4523
05:34:01,740 --> 05:34:02,560
Yeah, yeah.

4524
05:34:03,740 --> 05:34:06,880
But yeah, we get a more conversation on what that will look like.

4525
05:34:07,220 --> 05:34:08,540
But then what do we know about these officers?

4526
05:34:09,520 --> 05:34:10,140
That's what I think.

4527
05:34:10,700 --> 05:34:13,900
So that's why I just go with your, like, just go with your cellphone.

4528
05:34:14,780 --> 05:34:15,500
Go with it, yeah.

4529
05:34:16,120 --> 05:34:17,100
And that's it.

4530
05:34:17,180 --> 05:34:18,340
And then call it a day.

4531
05:34:20,020 --> 05:34:21,320
Chief, I gotta go put my hat.

4532
05:34:21,320 --> 05:34:21,720
Okay.

4533
05:34:21,720 --> 05:34:26,360
but thank you, when you're so sweet to go get a numphrel, is it still raining?

4534
05:34:26,800 --> 05:34:30,540
Not so much, but Crystal drives safely.

4535
05:34:30,740 --> 05:34:31,540
I will, I will.

4536
05:34:31,920 --> 05:34:36,080
And then I forgot to show off the, I had it up here and I forgot the library for learning.

4537
05:34:36,400 --> 05:34:38,540
I'm not typing it back with me, so.

4538
05:34:42,520 --> 05:34:43,020
I'm so excited.

4539
05:34:43,660 --> 05:34:45,080
I got you, I will.

4540
05:34:49,480 --> 05:34:52,120
I'll just make sure you don't answer to yourself now.

4541
05:34:52,280 --> 05:34:53,180
I'll just call you soon.