[0:00] Me calling the meeting to order september eleventh nine AM. [0:06] Are there, is there [0:08] a request for any additional agenda items from anyone on the account? [0:12] So here are a non metal. Sure. Yes ma'am. Not an agenda item, [0:17] but we just pause for [0:18] a moment of silence for native. Yes ma'am. Thank [0:28] you Terry, [0:32] do we have any members of the public that would wish to speak on any agenda items? [0:38] No public comments have been received. Thank you. The next item on the agenda [0:45] is, [0:46] are items of can sense We can say all [0:53] those in favor, [0:53] i suppose unanimously. Thank you. The first item on the agenda for general [1:00] business is the downs and saint germain research presentation for f y twenty, [1:06] calling in progress. Thank you. Mm hm. Um, yeah, [1:12] it makes you everything that happened before the recording started, [1:15] doesn't matter. So jordan, [1:19] you're making the presentation today. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. Good morning. [1:27] Morning, jordan turner, [1:28] project director with down to saint germaine research. And I will be speaking to [1:33] you just for a few minutes this morning about our q three april three, june twenty, [1:38] twenty five visitor data. We don't have anything we have anything on the screen. Do [1:44] I need to do something? Oh yes, [1:49] if you would like to follow along and the presentation ends in tab four of your no [1:54] books. A [2:03] dirty one or give it a shot without oh, I will go ahead, started. Yes. All right, [2:08] and I'll be moving through the slides just in case we get the project. Okay, [2:14] so to start off, [2:16] just going to start with page four in my presentation. So it's page numbers on the [2:21] bottom of the slides that you'll see. Just [2:24] a refresher on what happened in April through june because it is unbelievably [2:27] already september. We had the word of South festival, the chain of parks, [2:31] our we had three wonderful concerts we had emancipation day in June tenth the [2:38] southern shakespeare festival. And as she capital tough, [2:41] so lots of events during that quarter. There we go. We got one, [2:46] we got two more that one up. And then I'll just go ahead and start with. There we [2:52] go. Both of them are up. I'll go ahead and start with the economic impact of [2:56] visitors year over year in q three of twenty, twenty five compared to twenty, [3:01] twenty four. So looking first at just a visitor number here, [3:05] you can see visitor number is slightly down. However, [3:08] we are still seeing an increase in both spending and economic impact, [3:12] and that's the result of each visitors spending more while in the area. So that's [3:16] a good thing to see. Part of that increase in spend as this increase in room rates [3:21] year over year that you can see in the second table here. And then we're also [3:25] seeing increases in occupancy and room nights in spite of that decrease and [3:30] visitors, [3:31] that's the result of visitors traveling and smaller parties this quarter compared [3:35] to last year. I also want to mention here that we do collect this data in fifteen [3:40] other destinations across florida. Most of these numbers and those other [3:44] destinations are down. So it's really, [3:46] really great to see some of these numbers up here. And then we have added this [3:52] slide at the request of the board to compare this year to the previous session year [3:58] . So this slide is comparing april through june of twenty, [4:01] twenty five to April through june of twenty, twenty three. And as you can see, [4:05] even when compared to an equivalent session year, [4:08] we're still seeing increases across the board and all of these numbers. And we're [4:12] also still seeing more of an increase in spending and economic impact compared to [4:17] visitor number for the same reason. visitors spending more while they're in the [4:21] area. So this is all as well. Great to see. Also we have added at the end of the [4:26] presentation. I won't be going through it today, [4:29] but we've added more information on the twenty twenty three data into our year over [4:34] year comparison slides. So those now show twenty twenty three, [4:38] twenty twenty four and twenty, [4:39] twenty five. So that you can see how things are changing in session versus non [4:43] session years. And then now we'll go ahead and move back to comparing this [4:50] year to the previous year and stay there for the next few minutes as I have [4:53] finished my presentation. So looking at the fiscal year to date twenty, [4:57] twenty five compared to twenty, twenty four, [4:59] we're again seeing numbers across the board here up, which is great. And again, [5:04] seeing the same increase in spending and economic impact that's kind of outpacing [5:08] that increasing visitors for the same reason. Last, [5:14] we liked to look back at the last five years on some of these metrics just to see [5:18] how things are changing over a longer period of time. And so with occupancy rate, [5:23] we're seeing a little bit of [5:25] a little bit of fluctuation. But overall and upward trend and then an eighty r, [5:29] we're also seeing overall and upward trend, their visitor numbers, [5:34] some fluctuation. But again, [5:36] that's okay. visitors are spending more per person consistently over time. And so [5:42] we're still seeing an increase in room nights spending and economic impact over the [5:47] past five years are Ok. Now I'm going to talk just briefly [5:54] about your q three visitors, your april three, [5:56] g and visitors and what they did before they plan their trips or what they did [6:01] before. They came to the area as they plan their trips. What they did while they [6:04] were here, and then a little bit about them, [6:06] reflecting on their time here. So as we usually see about two and three visitors [6:12] start planning their trip [6:13] a month or less in advance. And most visitors do say that tallahassee was their [6:17] primary destination. We see the usual top planning sources, [6:22] so people turn to advise from friends and family who know about the area or just [6:26] previous knowledge of the area, [6:28] especially. We see that in the session year on surprisingly, [6:31] but people also do search for information about tallahassee on Google. And then [6:36] we're seeing increasingly people use social media. So not surprisingly, [6:39] that's becoming [6:40] a more important planning source over the past three years. Looking at advertising, [6:46] we did see a slight decrease year over year and visitors, recalling, [6:50] seeing advertising and being influenced by it to visit. But again, at [6:54] a session year, people aren't coming to the area because of ads, [6:57] so that is expected and normal. And then among those who did remember seeing [7:01] advertising, [7:02] social media is again becoming more important here. So most people seeing that on [7:07] their personal or visit tallahassee, [7:09] social media page And then the top reasons visitors came to the [7:16] area we're seeing visiting friends and relatives going to one of our wonderful [7:21] events just relaxing or traveling to the area for business. Looking now and [7:28] who tallahassee is. q three, visits are most visitors, [7:32] unsurprisingly come from either florida or elsewhere in the southeast. Specifically, [7:37] most visitors travel from surrounding areas, [7:40] the Atlanta area or the miami fort Lauderdale area. And those are the same as last [7:44] year. The same top area is The average travel party size. Last quarter was two [7:51] point five, only about [7:53] a third of visitors traveling with children. Or the average age was forty five, [7:58] average income, [7:59] eighty seven thousand per year. Most visitors are married. And you can see here the [8:04] specific breakdown of Education, race and ethnicity, [8:08] most visitors have some college education at least also seeing four percent of [8:13] a high school degree and four percent with [8:15] a trade school or technical degree. And then most visitors are caucasian, [8:19] african american or has been Looking at what visitors do while they're in the area [8:26] . We're seeing about a fifty fifty split between visitors, [8:29] staying and hotels versus other overnight accommodations or just coming for the day [8:33] . average length of stay was two point nine nights and then about twenty percent [8:39] were in the area for the first time. Looking at what visitors do while they're [8:46] here usual top sources, they go to restaurants, visit friends, [8:50] and family. Just relax. We are seeing fewer visitors reporting that they went out [8:55] to eat in restaurants or, [8:57] and all and more visitors reporting that they went to special events or family [9:01] vacations this year. And then we also like to compare why visitors said they came [9:08] to the area versus what they said they did while they were here. So on the left you [9:12] see the same for top reasons for visiting that I've mentioned, [9:17] but visitors while they're here, are enjoying [9:19] a wide variety of what we have to offer. In spite of you, [9:23] we're going to restaurants. We're still seeing that as the highest percentage [9:26] people have to eat and enjoying attractions, bar shopping, nature, [9:32] even in the heat of the summer Looking at spending we saw and this is [9:39] travel parties been not spend per person. So an average travel party spend of two [9:43] seventy per day and about seven eighty per trip. And then last, [9:48] looking at how visitors, reflect on their time here, [9:51] they gave tallahassee an average rating of seven point seven out of ten as [9:55] a place to visit. And most said they would come back to our area or when asked to [10:01] describe tallahassee visitors said things like tallahassee has [10:04] a southern fuel with a lot of energy. Hello. Has the, [10:07] has great natural trails for those who want to get outside and relax. And there's [10:11] a nice selection of restaurants for the whole family. So that is my very quick run [10:16] through what we saw in q three of this year. And I'm happy to answer any questions [10:21] . Yes, [10:26] michelle. Thank you. Um, thank you for your, [10:29] for you. You mentioned session during the session, you made [10:33] a legislative session. Yes. Okay. Because we have legislative session every year. [10:37] It's just [10:37] a matter of whether it's in stars early or whether it started late in our later. So [10:44] um, I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same session, correct? [10:47] So and then the other thing is that I noticed that the household income has come [10:52] down for these individuals used to be ninety five thousand dollars or eighty seven [10:57] thousand. That's. That's interesting. Yeah, that's [11:00] a trend we're seeing each quarter is that is the income is coming down. It did come [11:04] down less this year compared to last year. It's only about [11:08] a thousand. Mm hm. But we are seeing that trend, [11:10] the lower household income. And my final question is when we have capturing, [11:15] whether they stay in hotels on a home, [11:17] the what have you or we including airbags in the hotel column. Those are included [11:22] in vacation rentals. Okay. A interesting reason [11:30] and do we see, do we have another question? [11:32] Do we see any type of trans going from moving from hotels to vacation rentals, [11:39] holmes or whatever? [11:41] So I know we've seen a decrease in people saying, and hotels not [11:45] a dramatic decrease, [11:46] but it is going down slightly. I have not looked at the vacation rental data, [11:49] but I will. Um, we're seeing more day trippers as well. Okay, [11:53] so that's kind of off setting that hotel decrease, [11:55] but I'll look back at how vacation rentals have changed. And I'm going to be really [12:00] interested to see especially football season when we look at that, [12:04] because we're still hearing at the hotel costs are extremely high. I get, [12:09] I'm getting calls all the time about it. And um we, we know we, we, [12:14] we know that what we've been sharing, [12:17] but it still hurts to park it. And so that turns people into going to air [12:22] b and b's or seeing and others homes are doing day trips. So we just need to be [12:28] sure to see how that transitioning during football season. And we know that in the [12:33] spring of the year we had graduation as it was the same kind of the same thing with [12:37] graduation as well. Thank you. Yes, [12:42] russell. Just to kind of spring off like you were just bringing up [12:50] for our projections in September or may not august and September or the [12:56] a predicate on last year's numbers. And then ten actually enhance [13:03] a disorder cli, [13:05] our projections collections are based on historical data. And then again, [13:11] we smooth it and look at different trends and things like that. But yeah, [13:14] the reason I bring that is so far we have [13:17] a football team that is feeling the stadium much better than last year. And I'm, [13:23] I'm optimistic that we may exceed those numbers if they were based upon last year's [13:30] numbers. So I'm just curious about that and then regarding the cost, [13:36] I was surprised that two hundred and sixty nine dollars [13:39] a day is what the average band is. Because I know my costs have [13:46] gone up and we've had to increase our ticket prices and everything. And I'm sure [13:52] the hoteliers are running into that same problem. I think it's going to be very [13:57] difficult. So whole but daily spend at the level it is given everything we're [14:03] facing in the economy. So somebody keep an eye on. And that bins does also [14:10] include overnight visitors in day trippers. So day trippers are probably bringing [14:14] that number down a little bit. That makes sense. Yes, [14:19] carrie russell to address the teach a projection, [14:22] the trend we an hour and we based of [14:26] a modest projection i believe like three percent and year over year again, [14:31] looking at of course, considering football season and you know, [14:34] cross country season and you know, all of special time and all that, [14:38] but this year so far we are seven percent higher. And so again, [14:44] we're well on trend there and exactly that. I mean when you look, [14:47] even last year we had hurricanes in August and September. So again, [14:52] you've got accounts for that as well, but as far as the, the, [14:57] the trends and the optimism that's there, you bet we're all, [15:01] we're all anticipating that in the months ahead as Well. So it will be [15:07] ten percent expedited by Anyone have any other follow up questions for [15:14] jordan? [15:17] Thank you very much. You The next item on our agenda is [15:24] the [15:24] a four and twenty six cards and special events grant award recommendations. matter [15:30] . I believe you're gonna need this item and call on somebody else if you want. I [15:39] Don't think I've ever done this. I think I just said yes, [15:41] things went well. We were done it in twenty eight minutes. I believe all the money [15:47] was awarded. The changes this year to how we analyze [15:53] grants, i think were welcomed so much easier. The staff did such [15:59] a great job with revamping that process so much more emphasis on heads and beds. [16:06] So to give you guys a perspective, you know, let's say [16:10] a grand applicant has done this for several years. Okay. And uh, [16:16] they, historically, let's just say have fifty room nights. And that equates to [16:23] a range of money that they should get. Well, they put on their application, [16:27] sometimes two hundred room nights and with no clear plan, [16:32] ask actually how they're going to get from fifty to two hundred or ignoring the [16:37] fact that for the last five years they've had fifty room nights. And then not only [16:42] do they do they, you know, Have [16:47] a very optimistic view of the room nights that have that are not grounded in any [16:51] sort of history. They will ask for the upper echelon of that next range for the two [16:58] hundred room nights. So again, historically, [17:02] something that is generated fifty room nights now it's saying two hundred and now [17:06] is asking for call it seven thousand dollars in [17:09] a grant. And so that was one of the key emphasis that I believe staff and everybody [17:15] tried to fix this year to make that clear. And the process was just so much easier [17:21] . But by the time all of our scoring was done, [17:24] I believe the number was fourteen thousand dollars left out of the deal. A lot of [17:30] the money which typically doesn't happen normally were, [17:34] were over me. And so we were down fourteen, split it up amongst all the grand tees, [17:40] about thirty five of them. And I think everybody left pretty happy with [17:45] a clear explanation as to what they need to focus on for next year. Just first of [17:51] all, I need to recuse myself from. I gotcha. Um, well, [17:58] on behalf of the entire council. Thank you all for survey on that committee. It's [18:02] not easy. We know how long those applications are and we appreciate your [18:09] just your commitment to the process and ensuring that the T D two is advocated [18:13] appropriately and fairly. So thank you. If you will bear with me a little bit, [18:19] we have [18:19] a few work for people that need to recuse themselves from these notes. I'm going to [18:23] be doing a little bit of choreography here, [18:25] as I call for some motions to ensure that we have the refusals and the [18:32] conflicts of interest kind of debate up. Um I would like [18:39] to entertain [18:40] a motion that we approve all of the special events grant [18:47] funding sans removing grant number three. brent number [18:53] eighteen and grant number thirty three. And for this vote, [19:00] russell and mat um can vote no [19:09] Hold on. I have this all worked out Because there is a Okay, [19:16] so personal and I cannot run, [19:17] i cannot vote on these Right [19:28] first. Which which numbers do you need to recuse yourself from? [19:38] Man, [19:38] if you could look at to find out which ones you need to recuse yourself from as well [19:42] . I did have the choreography on her [19:58] interview. You're looking for minus number nine, number thirty three, [20:03] and thirty nine. Or [20:11] If I have one, I'm one of those all worked out perfectly, [20:15] but Mr. proctor was not fitting something. So I had the numbers down which ones are [20:20] you mat? I'm one one in seventh, [20:24] one and seven. Okay. All [20:33] right. If I said thirty three, I meant thirty for your thirty three. No, [20:40] I'm thirty four. Thirty one. So thirty four. Thirty nine. [20:52] Right Right. So yeah, [20:57] tell so again with Frontier are have to meet yourself from nine, nine, [21:02] mean twenty nine, twenty nine. Thirty four, thirty four, and thirty nine, [21:08] thirty nine. All right, [21:14] so If we [21:20] take, [21:22] all of them met these on. If we take all of them met fees, [21:31] you can but they have to and they can great. All right, [21:36] we're going to take a vote and omit number three, number eighteen, [21:42] and number thirty three, [21:43] matt and russell. You do not vote on us. They're both recused. You are both [21:50] recused on this. Now. We're gonna, i'd like to make a motion to approve the slate, [21:58] omitting number three, [22:00] eighteen and thirty three. Those are the ones of which I am. Oh, [22:06] I Don't, [22:09] but all those in favor of approving all in v in words. sam's number three, [22:15] eighteen and thirty three. Say I I and there are two refusals. Oh, [22:21] okay. All right. Now I will entertain [22:25] a motion of which I am going to retire as myself, [22:29] for the acceptance of the special event grants. Number three, number, [22:36] eighteen, [22:37] and number thirty three. Second. All those in [22:43] favor. I first as you mostly. [22:51] Thank you. All Right, [22:57] uh huh scott, you are next with the concert of the day. Please don't ask us, [23:04] do any mental gymnastics like was just, [23:07] you can do. We can do you do. Yeah. So you do, you do cause [23:12] a lot of folks to dance. Start seeing a sub Thank you. Last time I was here, [23:19] we had wrapped up a spring. It was the middle of shakespeare week, [23:23] and we didn't have everything finished with paper work wise, [23:26] but we've turned everything in and feel real strong about the spring we have. We [23:30] have two great events coming up one course. gladys knight, [23:35] i think is one that is pretty powerful, was [23:38] a grammy winner in hits in six I think different to John was she's just class act [23:44] and quite [23:45] a get from tallahassee and that so act over twenty four friday night. And then [23:50] after that we have the john williams music, [23:55] unbelievable music presented by [23:57] a tell us who symphony along with the first commerce credit Union or [24:03] a great sponsor. We've brought in for that. Is there eighty fifth anniversary [24:08] celebration. So it worked out great. And I think That mandy and her [24:15] crew will put on [24:16] a packet or that and that's december eighth friday night. And then the, [24:22] we missed a couple of things. We wanted to get the call really make it a special, [24:29] but one of them is going to come back in the spring, [24:31] i believe. And we have some events that area and our working on [24:37] a very closely to bring the spring into focus pretty soon and some looking at as [24:44] far as out of two oh two, [24:46] six. So everything seems to be on track for hopefully for another great year. Two, [24:53] oh two, six. Does anyone have any questions or comments for Scott? [24:59] Thank you. I do have one comment. Oh boy. I was really expecting our [25:06] steam colleague, bill proctor to start doing some gladys tonight, [25:11] harming and we're singing. So I'm disappointed not to hear that You'll have to [25:18] just accept that we are all human and so I mean on an side All right, [25:24] um next stop is an update on the world athletics cross country championships and I [25:30] believe taylor and amanda. Yes. Are going to be giving us presentation as we're [25:36] just talking. We don't have a presentation today. I thank you. I hope everyone has [25:42] a great morning. It's less than four months to go. So who's counting now? [25:48] I've actually [25:48] a hundred and twenty days from today will be welcome in the world here in leon [25:53] county until the house. And so to say we're excited is an understatement. Um and [25:57] may be ready for the day to be over at the same time. Since I know honestly we're [26:02] really excited when we say we're full, [26:04] full head to seem like we are in the merge of everything. So Oh, [26:09] I think we did it last time, [26:10] but we will be watching ticket sales and race registration any day. Uh so we are [26:16] really excited, [26:17] you will see it everywhere as soon as it comes out. So please for the word uh, [26:21] the tickets are ten dollars for adults. All children twelve and under our free uh [26:26] you will have to purchase a ticket as in like, go on and get [26:29] a free ticket. Everyone will need a ticket to enter, [26:32] but kids proven under will be free race registration for the last one run, [26:36] which were hosting for those as twenty five dollars. A person. Every finisher gets [26:41] a metal, their own championship metal, [26:44] not quite the same size as the championship one, [26:46] but very much like it. And then for that also we're doing an initiative with kids, [26:51] athletics and all kids twelve and under will be able to compete for free. And the [26:56] twelve, [26:57] the to k race so really excited to get the families and the kids out and get involved [27:01] in the race. And then part of that, and kind of the legacy from this event is [27:06] a portion of all the ticket sales from races and the tickets to get in. I will be [27:11] donating back to leon county Schools so really excited. And in particular, [27:15] that funny will be going to the five high schools, [27:18] they're tracking cross country programs. So we're, it's really, [27:21] really trying to start and start [27:21] a legacy for the sports. We brought the world championship here and we hope all the [27:26] kids get behind it is that haven't been involved in the sport or no, [27:29] the sport will hopefully now know the square of athletics as [27:32] a really excited about that leon county Schools obviously is excited to. But we'll [27:36] be doing [27:36] a lot of initiatives with them just spread the words and get all the kids and [27:39] families out there and then tailor on the marketing of day. Yep. So um regarding [27:44] the marketing um some of the local signage has started to go up around town. Um and [27:51] is banners um it is also I believe library mon, on. So we have launch [27:56] a world athletics inspired library card and that's going out and they have some [28:01] information, [28:02] all the libraries about the event. And so really excited about that. Our team is [28:07] also working with the city on the whole thing. Some of the light pool banners as we [28:12] get closer to promote the event as well. Um so that will be covered around downtown [28:18] . Um and then with cross country season starting we're really planning on larger [28:23] activations at each of our events. And for the world championships, [28:28] we will have uh just some giveaways and information um at those ten they will be [28:34] able to register for the fun, ron, or just got [28:39] a ticket as well. I'm really excited about that. Our team is also going to be [28:43] attending the Disney wine and dine half marathon five k, and expo, [28:49] which will be about sixty five thousand people that will be there. So it'll be [28:52] a great chance for us to get our information in our name, in the event, [28:56] in front of [28:56] a lot of people that will hopefully return and then coming back um for the event [29:01] itself. Uh, the website for the event has launch the world athletics website, [29:06] as well as the visit tallahassee, landing page for our website, and that has [29:11] a little bit more local information. Those are being populated with information [29:16] about coming to tallahassee. What to do and all of that, [29:20] so really excited for that a, our kids athletics, [29:24] program promotion has begun as well. We started [29:28] a creative arts contest inspired by our logo and welcoming the world to Florida. [29:34] And that's been grouped into separate ages. They all have [29:38] a chance to be featured. All of the submissions will be featured at the event [29:43] itself. And then we will select winners to receive [29:47] a kind of kid swag back from world athletics kid. And that will be sending some [29:53] things over for us. If to those winners, [29:55] we're really excited about that. Um amanda and I have also been working on [30:02] interviews a. So we have some podcasts coming up with golf when [30:07] a series that will be coming out. And later october, we have [30:11] a interview that will be published in the athletics weekly magazine. us are really [30:18] excited about that as well. Um and then our team is getting ready to your out for [30:23] the final reading, the site visit with world athletics. The week of October, [30:28] sixteenth through seventeen key athletics, [30:31] rolled athletic staff and come over to just kinda see how things are going and go [30:35] over some final details you some things around the course. So we're really excited [30:39] to welcome them for that and kind of final put some final touches on thing I once [30:45] was just oh yes, [30:46] and then sponsorships. We're continuing to reach out to sponsors. We have some [30:51] meetings coming up for additional sponsors and we have some key sponsors that are [30:56] on board or last commercial meeting with world athletics. They've given us the [31:00] greenlight to go ahead and start working on finalizing sponsorship agreements. So [31:04] we're really excited for that because then we can now our sponsors officially to [31:09] you guys and the rest of the world, [31:11] so excited for that. And that should hopefully be coming with um and so I'm just [31:16] the course developments. Obviously there's a lot of work going on. Our apple Watch, [31:20] regional parks are cross country season actually starts tomorrow night. So really [31:24] excited about that. But wanted to share with the counsel is as soon as we end our [31:28] normal cross country season, which will be on November twenty second, [31:31] the course will actually be closed until the event takes place on January tenth. So [31:35] that just gives you kind of odd glimpse into how much will go into actually [31:40] creating this course. Remember, [31:41] it's not the course that is existing. Now we are creating [31:44] a different course in addition to it. So there's [31:46] a lot of elements that we have to build out and so the courts will be closed for [31:50] nearly two months. So it just gives kind of everyone and an idea of [31:54] a lot of work that's going to go into the execution of the, [31:58] of that meeting involved. Obviously you want the counsel involved spreading the [32:03] word, [32:03] we will be formally inviting everyone to the welcome dinner. The welcome dinner [32:08] invites to individuals from every country, and so hopefully about [32:12] a hundred and twenty individuals from across the world. And then our key [32:16] stakeholders in our community. Um, [32:18] well hopefully joining us that efforts you are the champions called for the welcome [32:22] dinner the night before the event. So look out for that. We'll be sharing that [32:25] information once you get it. But hopefully everyone can be part of that and really [32:29] show the world are, you know, [32:30] are southern hospitality here in leon county. And then obviously, [32:33] hopefully everyone can be at the event, will have [32:35] a huge v I P R attach that is going up. It will be first class and so everyone on [32:41] accounts will be involved in the part of that and hopefully and then edition really [32:47] just spread the word. We want this to be a, you know, [32:50] community event outside of welcoming the world in the region here. We want our [32:54] house to, [32:55] to show up. We want everyone to be there. This is really our opportunity when they [33:00] handed us the flag and serbia they said we expect our, i see in leon county, [33:07] we just ship ever and we don't want to let them down and that, [33:11] that comes with numbers, right? [33:12] That's people, they're cheering on. So we want [33:15] a record number and that comes from everyone here in this community showing up for [33:19] it. So again, we're really excited and does anyone have any questions? [33:22] We'll have more updates. ticket sales are going on sale any day now. So um, [33:26] be on the look out for that a this is really sounds number seven, a comment? [33:31] Yes. Thank you for that great presentation. I see the excitement. But my question [33:37] is, [33:37] are we marketing to our high schools in the not only in the state of in the region, [33:44] because you know, this is a great price for me so, so to speak. But for the, [33:50] for those um high schools that I guess even to, to, to the young people, [33:55] are we marketing to those, those individual groups as well? [33:59] Or Yeah, we are, um, [34:01] and I think there is obviously an emphasis on lilian county Schools. But we are [34:06] looking at and reaching out to you all of the, uh, [34:10] kind of regional area as well to get those people involved. Um and to get them here [34:16] for our championship. I think really waste across country coming up and [34:21] a lot of those teams and coaches and people coming to the community just naturally [34:26] that's really going to be [34:27] a great time for us to kind of in market to them and get them to sign up on site [34:32] and, [34:33] and plan to come back to worry and I get emails from even teams and coaches in for [34:40] like, we want to bring our team down like let us know and we have information, [34:44] so I regionally. Um I think we'll, [34:47] we'll be able to capture it when it's taylor so we have activation, [34:51] is that all of our events which are regional events. So our f, [34:54] as you invitational throughout, generates kids from South Carolina, texas, [34:57] alabama. And then in addition to that, we've hosted the USA [35:01] t f of junior championships and the a year which we have [35:04] a really great connections with and they're promoting the event on their site too. [35:08] So they're really excited to get the kids here and get them involved for me. I just [35:12] united States as a whole, but I obviously our region in particular. Thank you. Hi, [35:18] Carrie. Thank you. Wanted to have say a few words to thank you so much, [35:22] madam chair. And again, really want to recognize the entire team, [35:26] particularly taylor and amanda, as the co chairs of this chime norm, this event, [35:32] i really cannot adequately convey the magnitude and go [35:39] of this event. So a true testament to their leadership, [35:42] their tenacity. Talk about hurting cast or kitty, i mean and globally, [35:48] all over caps all over the globe and, and they've really done [35:52] a terrific job the entire visit tallahassee team. virtually everyone is involved. [35:59] It's been always been all hands on deck, [36:01] but I mean same with parks. This has been such [36:04] a tremendous with so many other county departments. Again, [36:08] really want to really acknowledge all the terrific work that they have been doing [36:13] again we're four months ago. And so we're going to, [36:15] they've been operating at extremely high level and they're gonna kick it even to [36:19] another gear here just starting tomorrow with cross country season kicking off. So [36:25] I really want to acknowledge the incredible work of these two ladies in the entire [36:30] team. I also want to share a couple other points here. We will be, [36:35] I will be sending [36:36] a email to you all to invite you to come out to one of our cross country [36:43] events this season. So you can start to already see some other changes to the [36:47] course. There is a physical, [36:50] large physical structure that's built that's going to be part of the world. But you [36:55] can see there's already some things that are taking place that are being [36:58] incorporated into, you know, [37:00] they're not going to impact the regular cross country season. But to also give us [37:05] a comparison how far along we are not just every year with our cross country season, [37:10] like I just say for the I believe, thirteen consecutive year, [37:14] we are hosting the Florida state high School athletic association cross country [37:20] championship. At arcus thirteen consecutive year, so we will be all the, [37:24] the schools from around the state competing will be here and they will be every, [37:29] we will have a table out of each one promoting worlds. So again, that's very, [37:33] very important. I'm also gonna send an in my email to you all inviting you to come [37:38] out to a particular van. So I can say will take you around, put you on a, [37:42] put you on a gator. Also car's take you around the course so you can kind of get [37:46] a first hand look kind of see what development is taking place. And that way when [37:50] you see it, [37:50] where else you're going to go. Wow. Because we're really going to be building [37:54] a city out there, like the olympics, you know, when you go anywhere, [37:58] i mean there's, I mean, all these temporary buildings. I mean it's, [38:01] like I said china warm is. And so what all that's going into that is, [38:08] like I said, cannot be understated because it's it and it's already [38:13] a spectacular site. I think most of you all have already been out there, [38:16] but it's going to be completely transformed. Like I said, [38:20] just like the olympics out there will be a whole city. As amanda and taylor shared, [38:25] we are whole close on launching our website with the ticket sales platform and the [38:30] fund run race registration. You haven't seen all the marketing kick in yet because [38:36] of that. There's not been that call to action. We've been building awareness. So [38:40] you see some of the signage. The marketing team is locked and loaded. They've been [38:44] shop and at the BET to unlace the marketing plan. But without the platform as the [38:50] call to action, we've been, you know, again, just chomping at the bit, [38:54] getting ready to run and we are mere days away from, [38:57] from flipping the switch. And then you're going to see [39:00] a lot more marketing there. Also I will send if it's all right with you all [39:05] a save the date to put on your calendar for the welcome dinner on January ninth. [39:11] That is a Friday night doke. So if that's okay with you all, I just want to put [39:15] a save the date so that where you guys haven't locked in on your calendars with [39:19] more. So um, thank you so much madam chair, [39:23] for being able to share some additional recognition for the, [39:27] for Amanda taylor and the entire team and just how excited we are. And we've been [39:32] talking about this for years. As you all know. I mean, you all, you're like, [39:35] it's been right there with us the entire way because of you all are here for months [39:40] to go. So again, this be a lot more common, [39:43] so thank you all for your support as well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you both so [39:48] much. Thank you. Three entire team. Do you want me to stay into sports now? [39:53] Sounds good. I do good. Yes. Um we had our sports council meeting on Tuesday. Oh, [40:00] great. Turn out um again, sports council is very involved which we much, [40:04] I know the sports team really appreciate. Um, you know, [40:07] I think obviously cross country is something we talked about [40:09] a lot. We are starting the cross country season uh, [40:12] tomorrow. Uh with the hook as nice as thunder. That's one of ten unique events that [40:17] will take place this year, [40:19] including the world championships. Um well also housing another role. Another [40:24] championship the any I A national championship along with the slack and others. So [40:29] again, very busy fall as we move into the world championships, [40:32] so excited for that. But in addition this weekend we're hosting [40:36] a cross country meet and then we're also hosting [40:38] a softball tournament. So we have over thirty teams in town. Um that's taylor and [40:43] the team organize to come here. One [40:45] a half of it that might one of my parts and the other one is that f as you Um, [40:49] so not to lose sight of not yes, [40:51] we have cross country. We have so many other events, [40:54] and that kind of leads me into these grants. And if you go and look at how many [40:58] different sporting events take place in this community, all or, [41:02] and taylor have both and a great job of making sure we, [41:05] we spread that portfolio and with I don't get to the acceptance of the fiscal year [41:11] twenty six forty that grant, we have a new grants this year, [41:16] so that's really excited. And um we had thirty eight total um coming in at [41:22] a hundred and thirty eight thousand three hundred and ninety nine. The grand budget [41:27] was a hundred and forty thousand dollars. If you are familiar, [41:31] general we sports has the second cycle doesn't leave [41:34] a lot of money for the second cycle. But we know that there's some attrition within [41:38] here. That's sometimes cancel and we generally have [41:41] a little additional funds that come through. But all these events are worthy of it [41:46] . And again, thank you to the committee. As it tedious the committee, it takes [41:50] a lot of times to review thirty eight grants and take the time to go in and look at [41:55] and read each one. So with that, [41:57] the recommendation to the gdc is to recommend all thirty eight grants at [42:02] a hundred thirty eight thousand three hundred ninety nine. moves the list for full [42:06] funding all those in favor. Man leslie. Thank. Thank you. [42:14] All right, [42:15] next on the agenda is the F right. Twenty six. cultural and tourism [42:21] marketing ramp award recommendations an update For for [42:28] for to kathleen kerry? Did you want to get this off? [42:36] Thank you so much madam chair. Before kathleen gives her update and answers the [42:42] grant recommendation. So I did want to point out [42:47] a couple of things of note in the grant [42:51] a coca grant recommendations document gives me as you all could [42:58] saw. Also you were sent this the streamline version to um as [43:04] requested um without the descriptions. Again that sets her place and was also [43:09] emailed yesterday. So you can again kind of see a line by line comparison. This is [43:15] a, a banner year for the COBRA grants. Again, this year, [43:20] these recommendations again, [43:21] just want to point out there's more than two million dollars in grants that are [43:25] being recommended. So that's [43:26] a lot of tourist development dollars. That will be going to all these organizations [43:33] in the community. But I want to make sure we're all aware and to see this, [43:37] that same amount will continue in future years. And also of note is of [43:44] the thirty seven grants. Seven applications have been [43:51] told for eligibility verification by the county attorney's office and myself. [43:58] As we do every year, as you all know and part of the contract, [44:02] and we review every single coca grant application for eligibility [44:08] as has been every year since really twenty nineteen. There's always [44:13] a few that had that require additional legal and like I said towards the review to [44:19] ensure the eligibility there is an amendment process in place that has been [44:24] utilized every year. So that would be again utilize. So I did want to, to clarify [44:29] a couple of points on that. The seven applications that have been pulled for the, [44:35] the ability reviews have not been identified in the document. So I did want to [44:41] share who those were. Those were also included in the email yesterday, [44:47] but I want to again make sure for the record, [44:49] since it's not in the written document. The following seven grant applications are [44:56] pending. The final eligibility review with county attorney's office and myself that [45:02] the asian coalition in tallahassee for experience, asia, the enhanced ability, [45:07] able artist gallery for their general programming. The challenge or learning Center, [45:14] the launch box. Um, its a hands on adventure for, [45:18] for children making light productions that's they're making light program theater [45:24] program. The tallahassee box are lay there, concert series, [45:29] institute for music business there, music money and mindset program, [45:34] and the strikers use arts project for the Capital city dance festival. Like I said, [45:39] just this eligibility review process takes place every year. So again, [45:44] this is that's not uncommon for them to be pulled to, to, for further, [45:49] for applications to be pulled for additional review. What is and the usual this [45:53] year is two things. Is one, [45:56] the delay usually the according stopped. Uh huh. [46:05] Um. And so the, the to, [46:08] I'd say kind of not typical things is the, the, [46:14] the meeting typically cuz calculating as, as the grant cycle knows the, [46:19] they concluded their, um, [46:21] application period. We've had them for several months that we had received the [46:26] applications themselves. But due to [46:30] a backlog in the county attorney's office for legal review, [46:36] again, due to the world's agreements and etc, there was [46:41] a tremendous backlog to work through. So we're working through that as the last two [46:46] to three weeks. They've cleared them off. So again, [46:49] all these contracts are now moving in the last two weeks, [46:53] the delay has been on me with my l. This, [46:56] but I do anticipate again this week that they will be reviewed. Um, [47:01] hopefully this week we can get those done and, and started. So the timing is, [47:06] is different due to several factors, again, [47:09] with the county attorney's office and then my illness the last couple weeks. So [47:13] that's on you as well. But again, in process, [47:16] the other part that is unusual is that you will see them in here that are [47:20] recommended because again, that is a little out of out of the process. So again, [47:26] I just wanted to point out, [47:28] since it wasn't pointed out in there that these seven applications are still [47:33] pending, eligibility review, but yet they have been scored and evaluated. So again, [47:37] I just wanted to provide that clarification and also noting again this is [47:43] a banner year for our arts and cultural organizations. So they've receiving [47:47] a lot of diverse development council money this year, [47:50] a tourist development tax schedule, [47:52] and that was all concludes my remarks. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sure before we [47:57] begin, [47:57] I refuse myself on this. Sure. Um before we move on to comments or questions [48:04] from the console. Kathleen, did you want to make any comments on the proposal? [48:10] I'm sure so, um, as I just wanted to clarify that they are the twenty, [48:17] the twenty six grant recommendations for the to do to for the cultural grant and [48:22] control tours and marketing. I just want to make sure that that's there for the [48:25] record. And between these two programs, [48:27] it is does represent thirty seven organization and since seventy four grants for [48:31] the total of two million, six hundred and fifty four dollars in [48:35] a completely agree with everything that kerry said regards especially in regards to [48:40] being a banner here. Really appreciate that. Also it's a banner year in, [48:45] in arts and culture. We are the state funding has again not been awarded to [48:52] about I would say about thirty well it's the majority of organizations in this [48:57] community that asked for not all of them. There were some that were that are on [49:01] this list that were awarded by the states, but unfortunately this year, again, [49:06] there's a second year in a row of not having that funding. So this, [49:10] this funding this year is really needed in the community to make sure that that [49:16] tours and programming continues to move forward. I also wanted to just add that we [49:23] know this isn't unusual situation on this year, [49:27] but we have also worked with our coca attorney on this process and worked very [49:34] closely with kerry and emily and to stay updated on how everything went. So when we [49:40] look at what's being proposed for this year, [49:42] we're really confident between everything that the guidelines say, [49:46] between all the compliance is that we checked out. And the process that we followed [49:51] because we also extensively review this with the culture, [49:55] with the coca board and executive committee and so on and put the whole process in [49:59] place. We're confident from here on once these are approved, [50:02] we can just complete this process and, [50:05] and move forward with these proposals. Of these proposals, [50:10] the seven organizations that you see on this list are also return applicants of [50:15] applicants. And they have all, [50:18] I have passed the tourism as eligibility in the past, [50:24] so all supplements have so several years. So we are confident that, [50:30] as we looked at these applications and we looked at the projects and kinda compare [50:34] that information to pass eligibilities that we can move forward confidently with [50:40] this process. Okay. Um, before I have it, I have [50:47] a couple of questions. Are you asking the council to approve all thirty seven, [50:53] inclusive of the southern not have not been deemed eligible for funds at this time? [51:00] Yes we what we were would um suggest and what we request is that approval be given [51:05] to the slate of recommendations, [51:07] pending eligibility review and county approval. That's how we are the cocoa board [51:13] move forward with the, [51:15] with the funding approval. And so we are asking this counts to do the same [51:22] thing to move forward with it, [51:23] pending eligibility review and county approval. So those two things would need to [51:28] be in place for these seven in order for them to move forward. Okay, [51:33] um My personal opinion is I don't want to hold up the process for the [51:40] other thirty, [51:42] but I certainly would not feel comfortable moving forward with approving the seven [51:49] that have not been deemed dollars of all by the county attorney, tvc staff, [51:56] etc. That is right, hold on, hold on one second, [52:01] I got yes. Just did also have an additional question with that. Are those same [52:05] seven also being question eligibility for the marketing grant portion as well or [52:11] that is completely separate? [52:12] That's not, that's a good question. What do with the marketing side? [52:14] That's a good now, [52:15] I'm just trying to get this cultural programming only. Not the marketing. Okay. [52:19] Okay. Especially on rosecrans. Did you have a question? [52:24] A, a, the, the question that I have is, um, [52:31] if we do not do this, [52:32] will we have to then come back and deal with the seven separately? [52:37] Because if that means that we have to have another meeting to deal with the seven [52:41] separately, [52:42] i can get on more with approving them and naming the seven [52:49] that would be pending for, for uh, [52:52] moving for um with the approval of the, the process as [52:57] a place to review process within a county attorney's office, cvc, [53:01] executive director and whoever else that needs to sign off on otherwise we would [53:05] then have to come if we, [53:06] if it means that we would have to do another meeting to approve the seven. If [53:13] you follow what I'm saying, I do, I think what I am concerned about, [53:17] and I think we could handle this at the next meeting, [53:20] which is what is there november sixth november um. But if these [53:27] programs are not deemed eligible, [53:30] and they then have to have an amendment to their program, [53:36] how do we know that they would be scored the way that they scored? [53:41] During the first review, i'm worried about the scoring being affected if it's [53:45] a different program. So if these programs were deemed ineligible, [53:50] they would have to take an amendment to their application. What if that amendment [53:55] is deemed eligible or did not receive the score for the same score that their first [54:01] one did? Well, [54:02] I think we're looking at these programs. Some of them are really counting on [54:08] getting going with this with this funding. So I would say that if, [54:11] if they are deem and eligible and do have to make and remember that those would [54:16] need to come back to the next meeting, [54:18] back to the November meeting before the. But if they are reviewed and they are div [54:22] eligible, let them go, go ahead and get going. Only those that are not approved, [54:27] not only eligible, bring them back to the November meeting. But for the others, [54:32] you know, if they are approved that let them go ahead and get started. As you know, [54:36] is, are ready to hard enough and kind of get [54:38] a hit these programs going again and get them going in the course. They were not [54:41] able to get everything that they, they've asked for. My concern, i have [54:45] a different concern that all of these funds have to be expended this year. And the [54:50] later they start expanding the funds, a heart is going to be to, [54:54] to do it. And we don't want anybody getting real creative or how they spend it. [55:01] And I hope they have been prepared. And this is [55:05] a banner year we hope to have future banner years. But in this particular time, [55:10] this, this is not probably won't be repeated next year because of the, the, [55:17] just the way things are going economically. What have you. My concern is that they [55:22] have a great year this year. They have [55:24] a drought potential drought next year. But they can't hold these funds over for [55:30] future years. They have to use it and this year is that correct? [55:33] So they do need to use this year. There's a, there's [55:38] a possibility. So after, so let's say this, [55:42] this goes through september thirtieth of twenty, twenty six. There is [55:45] a possibility of another six months of use after that and then that's it. And it [55:50] cuts off after the after that. Okay. And then my other question about that I always [55:56] is telling, you know, this whenever we're, we're building out money, [56:03] we need results. You know, how will this been? [56:06] And I know you will probably have that come to accountability. How is expanded with [56:10] the program successful? [56:11] Because if, if there is the money is being spent, [56:14] if for some reason the program was not successful at folder, [56:17] we need to know that as well. Because if they come back and apply again they, [56:20] we need to know that, you know, [56:21] they were funded previous year but were not able to deliver to the desired results [56:26] . Those that we need. So that should be [56:28] a part of the scoring for the next time. So I say it said [56:34] a lot of kind of maybe talked in circles, [56:36] i'm kind of thinking out loud. I know that they need these funds to get going in [56:40] and they got to get funding from other places. And sometimes they use the fact that [56:44] they got this funded to help get other funding. Absolutely. So I don't, [56:47] I don't want to hold that up, [56:48] but I think that going back to my original point. But those seven that are still [56:53] under review, if they are not deemed eligible in something nice, [56:58] they have to change something they know should come back to the next meeting of [57:01] this of this board. So I wouldn't be ready to move to make, [57:05] make the motion that we move forward with the thirty that have been approved. That [57:12] the seven that are pending. If they, [57:15] it is determined that all the parties involved that they are eligible, [57:19] then they to shift move forward with funding for those who may be deemed eligible [57:24] and they come. They be brought back to the November meeting of discounts as they [57:29] need to move before I have [57:32] a few additional questions before we move for anything I did as well actually. Okay, [57:38] we got the motion. Okay, is there [57:42] a second so that we so now we can open up for discussion. Yes, we're there, [57:49] man. We go. I just having served on our own grant committee for [57:56] however many years of [57:58] a two hundred thousand dollar max budget. How is this two million dollars? [58:04] That's my first question. Thirty four out of thirty seven score. Ninety or above. [58:10] That is never happened in any panel that I've ever been on for scoring. Thirty six [58:17] out of thirty seven were eighty five plus. I'm sorry, [58:21] none of this passes the sniff test. I don't understand how two million dollars is [58:26] awarded in grants when we don't even have that budget combined in the six years [58:32] that I've been sharing, [58:34] it just doesn't make any sense to me. So I don't know how luck, [58:40] however you guys do your thing, [58:42] whatever. But if I'm joe public looking at this, [58:48] it makes no sense to me. So may I address that? [58:51] Well, in just one moment, I think did you want to follow up conversation? [58:55] Did you have a follow up comment or I did [58:57] a little bit. Yes. So partly to piggyback off of that, you know, [59:01] we don't see anything in here and I know, I mean, [59:03] we're not involved in this process at all for healthy or their grounds for the [59:07] review process of that. But there's, there's nothing in here that, [59:12] that we see that tells us, you know, [59:14] what the husband as are and the tourism that's generated from these events. So you [59:19] know, it to match point. And if it's still [59:21] a lot of money to these organizations are wonderful organizations and, [59:25] and I certainly think that all of them are, [59:27] are worthy of receiving grant funds. But there is some question as to how are this [59:31] dollars so much if we have, you know, [59:34] seven that aren't eligible. And I know our grant is, aren't given [59:39] a second chance to revise and come back and say, okay, well we, you know, [59:44] we know we weren't granted or we weren't, you know, [59:46] able to receive what we asked for. Let me revise that and come back and hope that [59:51] we can get some additional funds or that we would then be eligible for those funds [59:54] . So I'm a little curious as to why they have this kind of, let's go back and, [59:58] and rewrite and revise to then be eligible on eligibility on our side of it is [1:00:05] required prior to applying. Or if they apply and read the review process and we [1:00:10] deem that it's questionable or that they aren't eligible, they're not given [1:00:13] a second chance to then rewrite that to then come back to us and say, you know, [1:00:17] please give us a scrap, you know, [1:00:19] funding and and if we have seven that are potentially not eligible and are [1:00:26] then given that to rewrite or to revise and amend to be eligible. I'm not saying [1:00:30] that that shouldn't be a process that we do. I think, you know, [1:00:34] there's definitely some worthwhile components to that. But say we have three of [1:00:38] them that were awarded a hundred thousand and that money then goes back in to [1:00:43] a pot. But if, if it's not used, [1:00:46] my understanding is that goes back to the state. Or is that correct? [1:00:50] So I guess helped me understand a little bit about how, you know, [1:00:52] if we have the seven grand [1:00:53] t is all of this money to million plus pot is awarded. If we have seven that are [1:00:58] truly deemed and eligible. And it's, you know, [1:01:01] three hundred thousand dollars say I don't know the exact amount, [1:01:04] but where does that money go then? [1:01:06] If it's not being granted to them, I also have one more not to add more, [1:01:10] but I have one more thing. We assume the grand to look exactly like the grants work [1:01:16] for everything else, which is you spend the money and then you get reimbursed is [1:01:20] a lot of money for these organizations to even spend. How does the have this money [1:01:25] to even spend? It's much money. I run businesses, [1:01:30] i would have fifty six thousand dollars to spend on [1:01:33] a summer camp and then get money back. That said, [1:01:39] fifteen million dollars with the businesses. I can't do that. It just, [1:01:43] it doesn't make any sense to me. logically, [1:01:47] you can't. You don't have the money in the coffers to spend to get reimbursed. Most [1:01:52] of these don't to Me [1:01:59] um kathleen, [1:02:00] um could you please address or explain to us the process that the grant [1:02:07] fees go through, who reviews them? What is the make up of your grand panel? [1:02:13] So these are great questions. Thank you so much for them. One of the things that it [1:02:17] really illustrates to me is that I think all of you need need to do a, [1:02:22] this grant program is very different than the grant programs that are for sports. [1:02:28] They're, they're not, [1:02:29] they are vince. But they're also for year round. So what you're seeing here in [1:02:34] regards to a funding is not just for one of that, it's for several events, [1:02:40] and it, it keeps the tourism going you around. And I want to make sure, [1:02:45] I think michelle, [1:02:45] i will address what you're saying. But I want to make sure that that's really, [1:02:48] really clear. This community supports arts and culture. I know we all do [1:02:55] arts and culture events also bring folks to restaurants. They bring folks to other [1:03:00] um, to hotels. They do [1:03:01] a lot. And this is we're talking about year round or all the times, [1:03:06] especially when there are special events from the other. The other grants that [1:03:12] we're just approved by this council. So I just want to make that point because it's [1:03:15] really important that we continue to support arts and culture at this level. Two [1:03:21] million dollars is a great achievement and we worked pretty hard to get there as [1:03:26] a community and the arts and cultures eighty five million dollars annual. They who [1:03:32] knew that it, [1:03:33] it does contribute to this community. This is how it helps to get there. And so I [1:03:38] just want to make sure the that was really familiar. Can you answer the question [1:03:41] about the answer? Some of the council members questions regarding the process? [1:03:45] Yes. And who reviews i will answer on how those could you get to those questions? [1:03:50] I will and I wanted to give that context because that's why this grant program is [1:03:55] different. So the applicants receive this application in this year, [1:04:02] it was the end of April and they had uh, they have a few weeks to apply for the, [1:04:09] the funding. And when we look at the CAPS of this year and how much could [1:04:15] be be spent, we knew that this was [1:04:18] a banner year. So we were able to adjust some of the CAPS, for example, the, [1:04:22] the museums or the museum. And the symphony orchestra were able to apply for more [1:04:28] money than they did in the, in the years past. But in the, the, [1:04:31] the museum was able to qualify for that the tallahassee museum. So we were really [1:04:35] fortunate to be able to offer that this year. So we did look at that this year and [1:04:39] adjusted the CAPS. We know that sometimes the CAPS will go up, [1:04:42] sometimes they'll have to go down. But that's why we're looking at that kind of [1:04:46] pool for this year. So the applications go out the applicants and apply for the [1:04:52] program. They come to to [1:04:54] a coca and we do get consultations on that and assist as much as possible upon [1:05:00] request for the applications to be submitted. Then they're submitted. Then they're [1:05:06] reviewed by our staff for eligibility to the grant application and [1:05:13] then we after the eligibility is done. And if there's any kinds of questions that [1:05:19] would need to be answered with that, then we move forward a slate, [1:05:23] send to the to the tourism director and to the county attorney's office for their [1:05:30] review. So that's, that's how that is handled. And then we work with the, [1:05:36] the, the, [1:05:37] those two entities on the tours and eligibility review in regards to the grant [1:05:42] panel. We do receive grand panel application grant panel applicants from all over [1:05:48] we recruit also. And so normally we put together a large we, [1:05:54] we try to recruit more applicants or more of a panelist, [1:05:58] and we need because sometimes that are our family emergencies or there's things [1:06:03] that happen that will maybe take a, [1:06:05] a panelist or two out. And so that's what we've been doing consistently every year [1:06:10] . And so this year the same thing happened where we had more applicants or more, [1:06:16] a panelist in we'd about seven, a panelist, [1:06:19] and then we had some panelist that had to drop out because of [1:06:24] a family situations. And so we had three panelists that move forward with the [1:06:28] application process. Do any of those panelists have torres um, [1:06:34] do you recruit a panelist or have [1:06:37] a panel listen that reviews these for tourism impact applicability, visitation, [1:06:43] marketing, etc. So we, [1:06:46] our program is an arts and culture program. So our panel is needed to be experts in [1:06:52] or have a lot of background in nonprofit, in um, [1:06:55] arts and culture in our to marketing, communications and tourism too. So we, [1:07:02] we are open to all of those kind of [1:07:05] a panelist. It really depends on who ends up kind of what the mix of people are. [1:07:09] This year we had a lot of our panelists, [1:07:12] we have two that have very familiar with this process, have gone through [1:07:15] a lot of tours and marketing and tourism. They've gone through this program, [1:07:22] they understand the process and they understand what the the county expects for [1:07:28] tourism and they are a very well versed in, [1:07:33] in tourism and how tourism needs to be used needs to happen here [1:07:40] in arts and culture in the community. So yeah, so we, we felt that we had a very, [1:07:45] a solid panel that had the, [1:07:48] the kinds of skills that's needed for this panel room. Is it normal though, [1:07:53] for thirty six out of thirty seven to receive eighty five plus. Is that [1:07:58] a normal trend, or is this an abnormal year? [1:08:01] Well, all of these are the majority of the there's [1:08:04] a great question that the majority of these folks are returning applicants. And so [1:08:10] you're going to see higher scores with those because they understand not only the [1:08:13] process, [1:08:14] the understand what needs to happen with tourism in this community and they receive [1:08:19] okay, sure. Then you would have a historical record, right? [1:08:22] So did I know the thirty six thirty four got ninety plus so have all these people [1:08:28] always got ninety plus it's buried, [1:08:31] i think depending on the quality of their application. So they've got good this [1:08:35] year. What is the uh I keep hearing banner year, and so I just wanna understand, [1:08:42] or how do we have two million dollars this year. And we've never had two million [1:08:46] dollars. We did the coca board and [1:08:51] a few years ago. And during the pandemic, put [1:08:54] a policy in place to to give out on the funds on actual us. And so that's what [1:09:01] we're doing is we're giving amount on actuals. We knew that this would be at the [1:09:04] end of year. So we have to receive the money from the county that just have it [1:09:08] projected, [1:09:08] but we need to receive the money from the county in order to give out the money. So [1:09:12] this is how much money we ended up with is we know from our or if we seen tours in [1:09:17] our dollars have been doing very well. So we know that this year is going to be [1:09:21] a banner year as what it has been already talked about next year. We won't be that [1:09:26] in that realm necessarily. We don't anticipate that we'll have that much collection [1:09:30] to give out next year. It really depends on how to do [1:09:33] t goes. So it depends on the interviews. Here's money. This is, [1:09:36] this is whatever was collected this year. You guys, [1:09:40] this is actual in their account. This is actually, this is if this is [1:09:45] a banner here and we're not anticipating next year to be as grand. Why wouldn't we [1:09:50] keep some of those funds in reserve to continue additional funding in future years? [1:09:55] Who's to say there's not enough of it coming or something to that effect? [1:09:58] Yeah, yeah, that, that's [1:09:59] a great question. And I think that we are looking at the need to make sure that [1:10:04] we're spending this money as soon as we get it. We need to get a, [1:10:07] give it out to the community of the community, [1:10:08] especially needs of this year with the um, [1:10:11] the amount of with the state funding being pulled off at the second year in [1:10:15] a row. So um, so we, we've also told our fancies and our, you know, [1:10:21] that we, you know, we, well adjust caps depending on how much this money is, [1:10:26] because this is all tax related. So unlike years past where you've had flat funding [1:10:33] necessarily, um and that's the same every year. Any time you have [1:10:37] a tax based grab program, [1:10:39] you're going to see fluctuations. It's going to go up. It's going to go down. And [1:10:43] we had that happened during coven, where it went down, [1:10:45] and then went back up again. And this is great. So next year, [1:10:49] if we could keep it to two million, [1:10:50] that's fantastic. But we can't guarantee that we, we did test to fluctuate, well, [1:10:55] what was last year? Just curious. It was um, [1:10:57] one million nine hundred and nine. The, um, it was about just about one hundred, [1:11:04] one point nine million dollars [1:11:05] a little over that in total tv to collections. Not frontier digital grant awards [1:11:12] last year. I believe around one point three. That was a year before. Yeah. Okay, [1:11:17] and there is we haven't, we have a lot of tourism, of course, because that's, [1:11:21] you know, [1:11:21] we want this money to be continuing to encourage you to the arts and culture [1:11:25] programs that are let's talk about the tours inside of it. Is there a, [1:11:29] a staff that they are required required to provide or data that actually tracks and [1:11:35] counts the heads and pads, [1:11:37] but they can actually say year over year this event is growing. We're showing [1:11:41] additional tourism generated because we can talk, you know, so tell state is or, [1:11:46] or things of that nature. Is that a component that's required with your grant [1:11:49] a method to bed so that that is not required because it is also your own [1:11:53] programming. And so when you're talking about your own programming, [1:11:56] if you're looking at heads in beds, [1:11:57] you're not talking about tracking. One of that you're talking about tracking [1:12:00] a whole year. And I sure I understand that. Yeah. And, [1:12:04] and I know that some of these organizations do have large or kind of keystone [1:12:08] events throughout the area because the symphony orchestra and some of their bigger [1:12:13] events and, and the ballet and whatnot. I would think that there would be [1:12:17] a manner in which we would in some way say yes, [1:12:22] this is bringing people from outside of our if the hotel, [1:12:26] maybe we can talk about that with [1:12:27] a hotel. The hotels could track something like that for us and have some if there [1:12:31] could be some easy way to do something like that. I mean, [1:12:33] we would certainly consider that that could be tracked as long as it wasn't [1:12:37] required. If it was a encouraged, [1:12:41] i think that that would certainly be helpful to the data that we're collecting. I [1:12:47] think we also have [1:12:47] a question here. Yes. commission rooms. I just want to bring us back in and this [1:12:51] has been help the conversation. But I think that these are the conversations that [1:12:56] we need to have after this at this point, [1:12:59] because these individuals have done what they've been asked to do. They have been [1:13:05] scored and whether we understand the score or not, [1:13:09] they have done what they've been asked to do. They've been score, [1:13:11] they have been ordered and we're standing in between them and being able to [1:13:16] continue to provide what we need our community. Unfortunately, [1:13:20] the arts and crafts the funding for our arts and what have you got set at the state [1:13:26] level. And if we're able to fill in at the local level until we're able to get some [1:13:30] additional funding, [1:13:32] i think that's what we really need to be keyed on doing. I know I'm a, I may be [1:13:35] a bit biased because I'm with the City of tallahassee, [1:13:38] and we do know that people come to tallahassee for our arts and, [1:13:42] and perhaps we are something we need tracking on what people visit if they are [1:13:47] coming for [1:13:48] a specific event or what have you and know what that even is so we can tie it back [1:13:52] . But I think that at this point, i'm gonna call the question because I've made [1:13:57] a motion. We have a second, we've had a discussion and we don't do it. Are we not? [1:14:02] So at this point we just, I think we just need to go. Thank you manager. We have [1:14:09] a motion. We have a second. You have two individuals, russell and myself, [1:14:15] that most refuse from this phone. So I do have [1:14:21] a motion based just so that where do you fear that service is gonna say we're gonna [1:14:25] re you think you can do it? [1:14:27] I can do repeat the motion. I move that we approve the recommendations that [1:14:34] have been provided but with the seven that are pending once, [1:14:40] if they are deem eligible, [1:14:42] that they to should be included is approved. But if there is any that needs to be [1:14:47] modified or not approved, [1:14:48] and they are brought back to the next meeting of the gdc. And [1:14:55] we have a second on that. Um, before we vote, is that possible? [1:15:02] Is that in with, in your guidelines to do an amendment that's part of motion? [1:15:08] Is that part of the guidelines of the grant application as it stands now, [1:15:13] if they were to be, those programs were to be deemed and eligible? [1:15:18] Are they eligible to redo their application per year guidelines? [1:15:25] Because we heard over here that that's not something we do not redo. The mood are [1:15:31] not re, do I mean? [1:15:33] Because if there is, [1:15:36] if there is an area of concern or something that needs to be corrected, [1:15:41] then they should be allowed an opportunity to correct it a listening to [1:15:44] a med question, how do they get to be so good? [1:15:49] And then here definitely is response. These are repeat applicants, [1:15:53] so they've gotten better at the application process because they may have had to do [1:15:58] some of the Amazon maybe did not receive funding previously. And so now they, [1:16:02] they gotten better at the application. So there could be, there will be a, [1:16:06] so I'm not saying that they get to do over. I'm saying that if, [1:16:09] according to the rules and I don't know, that's what I was trying to do, [1:16:12] but the rules, they can, I mean they're allowed, [1:16:15] they should be allowed the opportunity to [1:16:17] a meeting or appeal to whatever their process is. Okay. So per the I guess [1:16:23] friendly amendment like further if it's part of the regulations of the god grant [1:16:27] guidelines to amend or me in some manner. And it's ma'am and somebody and they're [1:16:34] going To send it to the county attorney's office right now. Yeah. And it would [1:16:41] be, again, it's a, a conversation with us of the, the goal would be to, again, [1:16:47] this is this week would be a target. Like I said, they, [1:16:54] they finally built some capacity in the last two weeks. And then I've been sick. So [1:16:58] it's been kind of a double whammy, [1:17:01] but the per obviously as quickly as possible and it's gonna depend on, like I said, [1:17:05] I'm unhealthy or again. Now that will depend on the county attorney's schedule as [1:17:10] to when we can get together. But obviously we want to move this along as quickly as [1:17:13] possible. Now that they've got free that capacity as well. So. So [1:17:20] will they have the infrastructure in place in these or [1:17:27] is that man, if I mean it's, there's an established amendment process, [1:17:32] there is it. So there is the both the review process and an amendment process in [1:17:35] the guidelines and so we would just follow that. Yeah. Right. That was the where [1:17:42] are you with that was feel good. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I added [1:17:46] a little bit after the motion was repeated, but did you under, [1:17:51] did you get the emotion? [1:17:52] You understand the motion on the table on the far, [1:17:55] maybe have. Okay. Want to have somebody read it back and make sure we're all clear [1:17:59] . Easy for good. I believe the motion is to if you want to do it one more [1:18:06] time. Sure. Okay. Third time's the charm. I move that we move forward [1:18:13] with approving the recommended awardees with the exception i. Every time I said [1:18:19] there's with, with the seven that are under review, [1:18:24] if they are deem eligible, [1:18:27] then they too will be awarded. But any that are not deem eligible will have the [1:18:32] opportunity to do an amendment or appeal for the guidelines that already [1:18:37] established. And they will be brought back to the tourist development council next, [1:18:41] meeting for review and subsequent disclosure, [1:18:46] whether approved or not. And does the second still hold? [1:18:51] Yes. All those in favor I'm opposed [1:19:05] To rise is not going to cut it. [1:19:16] I just I, [1:19:17] I totally echo what you said. If you went through the process and you are now [1:19:21] deemed ineligible, why do you get to come back? [1:19:24] I'm, I'm, I'm not clear on because there is an amendment in an appeal process as [1:19:29] a stablish is already established in place. So is that support for the rooms or the [1:19:35] coca cola said grand like guideline? [1:19:38] I mean look, [1:19:38] I totally echo what the commissioner says. You don't punish the groups by playing [1:19:43] by the rules, but the rules need [1:19:45] a lot of look. I will say that at the end up in our care, [1:19:48] you control that and I don't know if anybody here can but the but again having [1:19:53] thirty six out of thirty seven score ninety plus percent is, [1:19:57] is unheard of. So if I go by, there you go. I'll join the two, [1:20:04] I Okay. Yeah. For them coming back, [1:20:10] if they're deemed in eligible and it has to be amended. Yes. The amendment, [1:20:17] but for the seven that are not currently being eligible. Yes. [1:20:33] Yes. They don't they're not going to get the check it now that it's been enough now [1:20:39] rather, and They sits there … grand process is not [1:20:45] a reimbursement price like ours in Grand for their grand policies. They have [1:20:52] established, you get some money upfront, [1:20:56] some money. I think midway and some money and yeah, [1:20:58] and that's how they do it. Is that correct kathleen? [1:21:01] That's correct. There's [1:21:01] a point in process and it's in its place and so they have to submit the report and [1:21:06] report has to be approved before any other that triggers be. And so as I understand [1:21:11] it with this again with the carry out those applications still pending [1:21:18] eligibility verification. Um all the other ones would proceed in the normal [1:21:25] coca process. But not the site, [1:21:28] not the seven. That is correct unless they are deem eligible. Right? [1:21:33] Unless they are deemed eligible and then now sale right along the line that they'll [1:21:37] join that for me and it will then with in November, correct? [1:21:44] Got it print in, right. All right, [1:21:48] the most is going to call them. I don't, I don't have to repeat it again. No, no, [1:21:53] no, no. We're worried about where the getting i'm getting. I'm leaving. No, [1:21:57] no. All right, [1:21:59] so the motion passes. Thank you. Kerry [1:22:08] . You're up next. Thank you. It's the few things here to [1:22:17] bring us on home. And matt, [1:22:20] this answer one of your questions that you had asked about why this year [1:22:26] a banner year. We are on the counties contract with coca the current [1:22:33] five year agreement concludes this month. The end of this month and her that [1:22:38] agreement all the remaining [1:22:42] t T dollars were to be returned to tourism with the county. So that was [1:22:48] why in their budgeting, coke up words, budgeting, [1:22:53] they did put more on the grant funding because as kathleen noted, [1:22:59] they had left their process to go to funding in arrears, you know, and actually, [1:23:04] so they've been conservatively funding their grant programs knowing, i mean, [1:23:09] we talked about this two and a half, two years ago, a year and [1:23:12] a half ago that knowing this last year, again, [1:23:15] also depending on how tdc collections were rolling, [1:23:20] that the last year would be the big box to support the cultural, you know, [1:23:27] couple organizations for the last year you know, in the last year, because again, [1:23:31] then it funds would be return to the county at the conclusion of the five year [1:23:35] agreement. So that provide some additional insight as to why so much funding this [1:23:41] year as compared to past years. So with the five hundred five counties, [1:23:48] five year agreement with coca concluding, [1:23:52] it ends in light of the legislative interest in [1:23:58] t D T. This past session. It was, [1:24:03] it's not wise to consider it in my view, [1:24:06] entering into another multi year agreement with coca when we don't know what's [1:24:11] going to happen this upcoming legislative session. So again, [1:24:15] just as an informational item is that the county is moving forward with [1:24:21] a one year agreement extension with amendments i and, [1:24:28] and again addressing a little more of the transparency and, [1:24:31] and some of the accountability. Again, [1:24:33] things we've learned over the last five years in this extension with amendments and [1:24:39] then depending again what happens at the end of the legislative session. We'll be [1:24:44] working on another multi year agreement with co gas beginning f y twenty seventh. [1:24:50] So I can just and again we can, [1:24:53] I'm taking delight to some of the discussions here today, [1:24:56] and I'm sure others that we will have a but again, [1:24:59] just wanted to make everybody aware that [1:25:02] a one year extension with amendments and some of them addressing some of this that [1:25:07] discussed today But again to the next legislative [1:25:14] session on choose tallahassee. They've been [1:25:18] a marketing partner of ours since they were first created in two thousand and [1:25:23] twelve, [1:25:24] which is hard to believe they've been around that long. Um and again we've been [1:25:28] a marketing partner with them and from the inception i think many of you all know [1:25:32] they've presented in past years to this body under they do their credit [1:25:36] organization. They primarily focused on relocation of, of retirees, [1:25:43] businesses, the, you know, doctors went to the hospital, [1:25:47] recruiting stuff like that. They're out there. They have produced [1:25:50] a number of relocation guides. So again, [1:25:53] we've been marketing partners with them. So again, we're planning to continue [1:25:57] a three year agreement with them. They're only like fifteen thousand dollar [1:26:00] a year investment. So again small, [1:26:03] but they do generate return. I'd like to have done if that's right, [1:26:07] come to present after November meeting. They've got real short people. And they had [1:26:13] enough all their digital marketing again, [1:26:15] they worked with us really well to have them present at the November meeting along [1:26:20] with the request for Michael alford from memphis. You to come present as well as [1:26:26] the November meeting for the some. Let's see. So just to check in and get an update [1:26:30] there. So again, just wanted to let everybody know to bring both these, you know, [1:26:35] ask both these folks to, to come to the November meeting to present the, [1:26:41] as far as the amtrak building the office update construction as well under way. And [1:26:47] now if any of you all have been driven down there recently on, [1:26:50] on male right avenue, [1:26:51] the road is open redesign looks beautiful. We [1:26:58] can't wait to get back in there. It's going to be probably summer um, [1:27:03] but they have completed i understand the demolition inside where there's the two [1:27:09] stories where there was [1:27:10] a lot of damage there again from the tornado. Really ripping up the roof and then [1:27:16] setting it down. But um, [1:27:17] they're also starting now the roof replacement. So been kind of grateful to have [1:27:23] some, [1:27:23] at least not so much rain or hurricane the slow things down. So they're moving along [1:27:29] pretty good. So again, that's, that seems to be moving well. Well, on the way, [1:27:35] just a couple other informational items um, [1:27:38] particularly um that you all may have been hearing. There's two interesting [1:27:44] pieces of property in town now up for sale that the in the winds, people have said, [1:27:50] well, [1:27:50] maybe visit tallahassee or tourism should consider purchasing them. One of them is [1:27:57] a beautiful historic property on …, [1:28:00] a suki road that it can tell us how see historical, society and others. mean it's [1:28:06] a beautiful historical home to see, you know, [1:28:10] so there's some interest there. All the of, of folks saying, you know, hey, [1:28:14] is this a possibility as well as spring house? [1:28:18] As I'm sure you're aware, [1:28:19] spring house is the only frank lloyd wright design residence in the state of [1:28:23] Florida. It's here, it is squarely in a residential neighborhood. I mean, [1:28:29] I've had the opportunity to be there several times, [1:28:33] but there is some rumblings there again, [1:28:35] about tourism perhaps in person not. So I say the say you're, [1:28:39] you're hearing rumblings or I'm harry rumblings currently, [1:28:44] as you all know by ordinance the td [1:28:48] t as it is established within the county, [1:28:52] and it's all dedicated towards destination marketing, [1:28:56] tourism marketing. So that's not anything that can be changed again for capital [1:29:02] investment easily, as we know, [1:29:04] twenty percent of the T T T gets allocated to coca the other eighty percent again [1:29:09] for marketing the destination again and all the sports and meetings and business [1:29:13] events, everything else that we do marketing the destination, [1:29:17] so any change as far as any capital investments purchase any properties. Again, [1:29:23] any discussions on that. If it does get traction would be in no future years. [1:29:29] But just know it would come back to this body in the county commission before any [1:29:34] further, but I just wanted to know there is rumblings out there, [1:29:37] but structurally we're not currently set up that way. But should there [1:29:44] be a direction and, and discussion as this got, you know, again, I don't know, [1:29:48] but just so everyone is aware how we're currently structured and would require any [1:29:54] modifications going forward again to bring back to this board as well as the, [1:29:59] the county commission so they're really cool properties, but again, there's um, [1:30:06] you know, [1:30:07] like anything pros and cons. So with that that concludes my report. madam chair, [1:30:13] you members. Thank you of asked agenda item is any additional business or for the [1:30:20] good of the cause? I think the only thing I have is I believe that we have [1:30:23] a birthday this week. I have him are day me thompson. [1:30:33] Sure. Always. Michelle. Has anyone? [1:30:39] Yeah. I'm sorry. Yes. So some of you may have already seen this already, but um, [1:30:43] both the cocoa and the downtown and prevent authority are working together to get [1:30:49] to when and level of foundation grant. The level foundation builds music cities [1:30:53] around the country. So we have an opportunity to win up to [1:30:56] a hundred and twenty thousand dollars over three years to activate the downtown [1:31:00] with live concerts, outdoor concerts. So if you text tally eight, seven, seven, [1:31:07] four, nine, five, two, five, and I've got plenty of these, [1:31:09] and I'm gonna repeat that over and over again. You'll vote for us, we're [1:31:13] a nine out of a hundred right now, [1:31:15] so we're doing really well. But we want to get into the top five slot, [1:31:18] so whatever we can do between now and Monday at eight PM to get this out and we, [1:31:23] we really appreciate it. I don't want to thank the visit tallahassee for posting. [1:31:27] We've been helping get the word out, but anyone, you know, social media is [1:31:31] a big thing and this one. So we can get some more people to vote for tally. Then we [1:31:36] can try to get this money in and, and have these contacts. Thank you. So it's uh, [1:31:40] eight, seven, seven, four. Oh, nine, five, five, two, [1:31:46] five. Now have to do is just text tally [1:31:48] t A L Y. Thank you. Any other additional items or [1:31:55] anybody? Objectified, you know, [1:31:58] during those meetings now is it made it concerns? [1:32:04] Uh, ten, [1:32:04] thirty two AM and go rattler. Okay [1:32:24] .