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All right, Mayor, you are ready to go.

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All right, good afternoon, everyone. So glad to see everybody. On an odd day, June happy June 10th. Let me open up this meeting.

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Good afternoon, and welcome to the City of Leon Valley Special City Council meeting workshop. Today is Thursday June 19th, 2025, and it's approximately 5 p.m. And as you can see, all city council members are present. We do have a quorum.

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And if you can please stand, and I will leave us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Thank you.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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All right.

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Did you get an agenda?

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All right.

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agenda item number two. Citizens to be heard. Any citizen wishing to address

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the city council at this time may come forward. Just state your name and

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generally where you reside and you have up to three minutes to speak.

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Okay. Hi

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Mr. Blackboard. Could you get afternoon and welcome?

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My name is Richard Blackmore

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Lee and Leon Valley. I want to address this thing. I know the council is supposed to

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have a council meeting on Tuesday. It was council's probably good reasons. But why

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in the world would you have it on a holiday? Today, June 19th, it's half of American

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day. Why are we celebrating? I just asked the staff in here, they're making you

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work today, and they said, yeah, the county, the state, federal government. It's not

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forcing anybody to work its holiday. And we're in here doing this. This could have

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been done yesterday or tomorrow or next week. That's all I got to say. God bless Texas.

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Thank you. Anyone else?

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Okay. Seeing no one else, we have several presentations this evening.

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And the first one is presentation 3.1. Presentation, discussion and possible approval of a resolution

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authorizing the use of eminent domain to acquire a 0.625 acre track, adjacent to age drive,

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a property described in the Bear County real property records at volume 2595, page 153,

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said property owned wholly or partially by the estate of Ivan H. Smith for a street and drainage

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system and other public's improvements and we have Melinda Moritz, our public

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works director here this afternoon to present. Good evening and welcome.

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Good evening. Glad you're here.

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Thank you very much.

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You bet.

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This portion of undeveloped street is at the end of age drive and it's not paid.

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It's just a Kalichi road. Two property owners down there have been using this

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unofficial type of easement as their driveway but when it rains it becomes

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inaccessible. Luckily they have a very kind neighbor over there who takes his

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tractor out and re-grades the road way for them, but it's pretty bad.

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The records indicate that this parcel was once owned by the estate of IVAH Smith, but

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it was not transferred upon the sales that occurred with their original 58 acre

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tract of land.

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So they sold off land at portions over time.

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The situation created a nomans land and there's no property owner to notify of the city's

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desire to have it developed as a proper street.

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Now yesterday I did hear from one of the neighbors over there and they did send me a

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a couple of D documents that may conflict with this.

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So I went ahead and sent those over to our city engineers

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so that he can compare the two.

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They've done extensive title searches though

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on this property and so I don't know.

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There is a chance that the surveyors were wrong.

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There's been over time, especially back in the early days,

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the surveyors have been wrong.

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So we'll see.

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So here's the aerial exhibit.

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Up here is Samaritan Drive.

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And this was the property that we used to own, but sold to the one stop group.

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This is the little easement that leads back to this house, and then there's one back here.

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Interestingly enough, this house actually does have a dedicated easement that goes right up to this place right here.

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So here's the first part, and this is up by Samaritan Driver, it is now.

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This is fictional syndicates, not been built, but this is actual age drive where it stops being owned by the city.

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And so it's this piece here and then it continues match lines here and continues all the way back and that one house is here

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And there's another house back here and you see that dedicated easement here

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Estimated costs a praise level would be 3,500 if needed. Survey was about 3,500. There may be court filing fees

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But I don't know what that cost is. The property purchase and this is of course if we can find an owner that we would have to pay the property owner

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the appraise value of the property and then the attorney fees we don't know yet because they're still ongoing and

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Then if we do acquire it the ongoing maintenance of the street once it's improved would be done by public works through our street maintenance sales tax

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We recommend approval of the resolution however because this is eminent domain the city council must

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Read this out loud and then you must approve it by a roll call vote. Okay, very good

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all right so let me open it up for any questions before we make a motion on

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this if any questions from either the council or anyone in our chambers yes

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Mr. Blackwell Mr. Blackwell go ahead and then if anyone on the Dias has any

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name is Richard Blackmore I live in Leon Valley but I've seen on this on the

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computer that this easement is going to go right to a friend of mine's house you

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built that house with his own bare hands and this needs to be looked at real

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carefully. I have no problem with taking over the Smith property, that little

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section of it, but the easement, that roadway, you need to look at it real hard

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because I know some people going to fight like I'll get out if a city tries to go

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through their property and I just got off the phone with them just a little while ago about 30

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minutes ago and I hope y'all look at it closely hope the engineers read evaluate look at it and

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not give in to other forces outside our city and I know a lot of forces that going on right now

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Thank you very much. That's all I got to say. Thank you.

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So I guess just to follow up, Melinda, so this easement needs to be acquired so

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that we can build the street there for that subdivision, correct?

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Well, both. They want this. They need to put a hammerhead right in

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at this corner of Samaritan and AIDS Drive. Okay.

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And actually Samaritan is going to be moved up.

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And so the hammerhead will be actually further up.

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But you said hammer heads the hammer head of us. It's the design of the street. Okay, so that the fire trucks can get into that. All right.

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But this is currently being used as a roadway. It's going through what we determine is no man's land. They've done extensive deed searches on it.

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And so is it going to go through somebody else's property as Mr. Blackmore?

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I don't know. According to our survey. No. No. So just, okay. So it won't impact anybody else's

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ingress, egress, if we. We're going to take a look at the two deans that were given to us yesterday

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and make sure that it doesn't. Okay. And we'll have to go from there to see. And so should we wait until we act upon this?

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This is a first step. It still has to go before a judge and it still has to be published in the newspaper.

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Okay, but like I said, we've got their deeds and we're comparing them to the research that we did.

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Okay, very good. Mr. Composhetic, question or comment?

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So looking at this red line, you know, I just don't understand how this house is not affected.

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I just can you can you explain that? I mean, from what I can see that house right there,

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the red line is over overly big. Overly big. I outline the roadway. So the roadway comes

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right here in front of their house. It does not go through a house.

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And it's already being utilized as a roadway to the house.

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And have we talked to the homeowner?

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And do you know of any objectives for us to do it?

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Say again.

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They're very anxious for us to get it done.

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And in addition to that, the group, one stop group that owns this, has agreed to provide

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the asphalt to do the road.

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They're very anxious to have it done.

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So we have talked to this homeowner?

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Yes, sir.

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Okay, and so to our knowledge as the city of Leone Valley, they do not have any objections

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No, and we will not be taken in any of their property correct

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Okay, and do we have a estimated cost of what this is this

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The is it the asphalt that the one stop group? I don't have the estimated cost yet

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This is all preliminary. We have to get the we have to get access the land first. I can't even get out there to do

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the survey of what would be a roadway.

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I think they have planned on a 10 foot wide,

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but I'll have to go ask.

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Okay.

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We're not the ones going to construct it.

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10 foot wide roadway.

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Mm-hmm.

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Is that common in Leon Valley?

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No, sir, and like I said,

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I don't know the particulars of it,

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but this access easement that goes to this house back here,

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I know they have promised them a 10 foot wide

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to get on that easement,

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and that is a dedicated easement.

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Okay, thank you.

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all right anyone else okay so go ahead yeah if you'll read the actual motion

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and then we'll have a second and then we have a row call vote and thank you so

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much for talking to the to the residents there it makes it a lot easier for us

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to move on to this I move approve of the resolution never have my glasses

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to bear with me I move approval of the resolution in the city of Leon Valley

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Authorize the use of the power of element domain to acquire property described as the property described in the Birkhani real property records at volume 2595 page 153 it remaining 0.625 acre track of land on 58.18 acre track said property on holy and partially by the state of Iva H Smith for a necessary fee simple acquisition for the purpose of amount.

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among other municipal purpose including but not limited to street and water work systems

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including drainage and emptying facilities and other public uses.

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We have the motion by Councillor Arosco and a second by Councillor Compos to approve

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this acquisition of the eminent domain and we do have a roll call vote as required by law.

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So I got it you want to go ahead and do after councilor I was gonna say councilor Bolton

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But our city manager will call the role

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Councilman Bolton. Yes

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Councilman Hyal yes

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Councilman Kumpos. Yes, Councilman Roscoe. Yes, Councilwoman Mersh. Yes

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Okay, thank you the motion passes five eyes and no nays. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it

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moving on to presentation 3.2, presentation, discussion and possible action on the proposed fiscal year 2026 budget.

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We have Dr. Caldera, our city manager here this evening, to continue the discussion we've been talking.

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We originally talked about it on May 31st and then June 3rd and we decided to have another meeting.

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So this is a follow-up and I will ask you to begin.

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Good evening, Mayor and Councilman.

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I went through it again and I'm like, did we say that?

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Anyway, we'll have a good discussion, I'm sure.

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How do we want to do this again?

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If we have questions to go ahead.

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So this is a workshop, so this should be really informal.

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The big reason I was doing it in here and not in the large conference room was so I can stream it.

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And the people at home can see the power point.

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So they couldn't make it this evening because we are open on June 19th.

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And we also vote on that.

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Every year the council votes on our holidays.

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And so y'all vote for us to be open on June 19th.

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And so y'all will have that discussion

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when we come in August.

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Yeah, fine.

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I was going to say we haven't voted on it for this year.

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Yeah, but this next budget.

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Yeah, so.

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OK, so proposed annual budget for FY 2026.

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So you'll see a lot of differences.

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I'll try to go over all the changes.

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But you'll see quite a bit of changes

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from the last time I presented to this time.

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For those of you that met with me individually, you've seen the new numbers, but we're going

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to go over them for the purposes of the general public.

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So your capital reserve fund is sitting at 5.2 million, your emergency fund is sitting

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at 1.2, so that leaves you with 6.4, which is really, really good.

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And so you have about 5.1 months of operating income, which is great.

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But your operating deficit is sitting at about 350,000.

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your operating revenues are about 14 million to fund the FY26 you were leaving

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the tax rate the same so when we're looking at these numbers the tax rate is

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remaining at 0.48 and again this will be adjusted depending on what the

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county gives us at the end of July so we're still waiting on what the no new

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revenue rate will look like but if the council decides to leave the tax rate

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the same based on the current estimates we do have from the county we are

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The market value decreased was about $46 million, and I do have a chart in here that will kind of break that down for you. We also don't know how much we'll lose an appeal this year, and the projected increase in advalorem taxes $167,000. The average city of Leon Valley levies about $1,120 from taxes. The majority of your advalorem tax goes to the school district.

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This is a property valuation loss.

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I know it's a lot of information, but because I referenced the 46 million, I wanted y'all

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to see where the majority of your valuation loss was, and as you can see, it was multi-family

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residential.

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So those are your apartment complexes, and so you will see that they had a 31 million

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dollar valuation loss for this coming fiscal year.

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and what is special inventory on that where are you at all the way down it's a

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negative two nine hundred and sixty five I don't know I'm gonna have to go look

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that up I don't know do you know what that was County yeah I don't I have I

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don't know I have to look that up I didn't know at one point but it's I don't

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remember I'll get up for you well I've just did anybody else I wanted to want

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to know what that meant okay all right I'm just so my big concern is always up

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here. I'm looking at single family, multi-family, and commercial. Those are my big

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three that we're paying the closest attention to. But that is a million, close to a million

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dollar valuation loss. I'll take a look and see what that is for you.

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As you can see, this is just a history of your tax rate. You were sitting at 0.53 and 2023.

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We adjusted the tax rate to 0.48. We've held that tax rate now, and that's what we're projecting

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for next year, as of right now, these are your projected revenues. These are your losses where

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you're seeing the majority of your losses. Of course, you're out of the lorum tax

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sitting at 167 loss. We are projecting a 2% increase in your sales tax, but again, that could

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possibly adjust depending on what the numbers continue to come in at. Your franchise fees are down,

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your building permit fee is slightly down, but remember, your building permit fee, if you take a look

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get that fee, it's a washout to what we anticipate paying our inspectors so they match.

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So even if you raise your building permits, thinking you're going to get more houses, you're

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going to expend it the exact same amount to your health inspector and to your building

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inspector.

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So those two numbers are a wash and I can kind of show you that when we get to it.

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Court fines are down a little bit, your EMS revenue is up.

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Grants are a little bit lower, and then just other is slightly.

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You can take a look at your breakdown, of course, the majority of your revenue comes

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from your avalorum tax, followed by sales tax.

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Your expenditures are sitting at 15 million, which is a decrease from last year, about 155,000.

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Your capital expenditures are sitting at 2.5, which is a small decrease of 735 is comparison

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to last year.

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Your biggest expenditure is of course personnel and the biggest piece of the pie of your personnel

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is public safety followed by public works.

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This is the general fund summary page and so essentially what you're looking at is

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your total resources so that's your total revenue you're gaining 16.2 million dollars but

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all for that 16.2 you need to take out your grant for your hike and bike trail and your

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So you're sitting really at $14.6 million in total operating revenue and your expenditures

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are sitting at $17.6 million but then you take out, I'm sorry, you take out your capital

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from that amount, so that will leave you with $15 million, $15.37, so you are short currently

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at a deficit of $350,000.

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So, I anticipate us taking a look at possibly in order to meet that deficit depending on what your

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tax rate comes in at about three pennies would bring you the $300,000 in unless you all want to add

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more items to your budget like I've provided y'all cuts that most of y'all seemed okay with.

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There are some notes that I provided y'alls to open up the discussion when we hit those items and so

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So it will depend on what you want to add back in that budget, it will increase this amount.

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And so you'll have to determine how you're going to come up with those funds.

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Okay.

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So I just guess I wanted to understand it for myself and for anyone else.

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But so our avalorum taxes, you've kept it at the same point for eight, but our actual

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taxes that were anticipated are lower because the

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prasals were down. So when we find a number at the end of July from the county

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that number 0.48 to get the same revenue of last year.

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0.48 may not give you the same number. That's what I'm saying.

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That's my question. It probably won't. Right?

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So I can give you all a tax lesson but I'm just saying it's going to be probably more.

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correct so you're no new revenue right but I've been here when you have chosen

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the council has chosen not to adopt your no-new revenue rate against staff's

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recommendation we always at minimum recommend that you adopt at minimum your

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no-new revenue rate and so I always try to plan your budget based on your no-new

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revenue rate that's I mean for as long as I've been here that's what I try to keep

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it to occasionally make if we have something planned we'll ask for an extra

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penny or something if something's coming up but I try as your city manager to

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to keep to your known new revenue rate.

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I do think that the projected amount

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for your known new revenue rate will probably go up.

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I'm not gonna give you a number.

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I have an estimate of what I think it is.

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But well, that will reduce the 350, probably.

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So that's what that's my point is.

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Yes, so you don't really know until the end of July.

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But that's, we know that in order to raise

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the same amount of property tax revenue,

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the county's gonna come in at a higher tax rate

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as your known new revenue rate.

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but that doesn't, from a legal perspective,

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you can still stick with the point for eight.

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And anytime we prepare the budget,

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we always prepare based on your tax year

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from the preceding year.

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That's just what we have at the time.

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And we use that tax rate and apply it

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to your property evaluations,

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and that's how we come up with the ad of the Lauren tax.

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But yes, the council will have to make a decision

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whether or not to, at minimum, adopt your new revenue rate,

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which will probably be slight increase

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in your property tax, which would probably be

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staff's recommendation, or keep your property tax the same and find somewhere else to cut

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from this budget, and we've given you other recommendations in order to be able to

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do that, or add things into the budget and increase more than your new revenue rate.

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But then that's a council decision on what you'll want to do with that.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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You always should.

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And when the numbers come in, I'll give you all a quick rundown of how property tax, like

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voter approval. I'll give you a little bit of a lesson on that. For those of you that

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don't know that. So this is just your revenue sources. This breaks it down. This is your

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advalorum tax broken down, your sales tax broken down, and your franchise fees broken down.

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Your licensing fees and fines that you see on the summary page. This is all of them broken

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down as far as your revenue. These are all the grants that we get throughout the year.

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your general fund actual revenue that's considered other on that page, this is it all broken down here,

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now we get into your expenditure piece and this is where we break down your expenditures.

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So the biggest one here you can see court, we dropped their.

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So what I didn't go over on the first general summary slide is personnel is up 5% roughly

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5.1 or 5.2%.

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And so the thing that we also don't know as well as the tax rate is I don't know what

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the health insurance number is.

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And as most of you that have done this with me before, we will not get those numbers

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in until close to August.

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And so sometimes it goes hand in hand.

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Sometimes we get a break, sometimes we don't.

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I have projected a 14% increase in your health insurance.

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That is just a number based on the national trend number.

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When we ask for the rates, interences do it by calendar year.

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We operate on a fiscal year, and so in April they don't have true numbers yet.

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You have one utilization report, and so it's really not the best number to go by, but we

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We should have some better numbers for you here in the next month or so.

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Okay, you know, I looked at that professional services, but then I remembered that's the prosecutor and you moved it from the city manager into the court and that's why that's significantly winning.

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Yeah, so we'll get that to that pay, that's why the upcoming slide.

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So this is the general summary of expenditures for the court.

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Okay, Councilor Marche has a kind of question.

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One thing I noticed from the last version to this current version is there's a lot of variability in the workers comp and then in the liability.

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Are you moving people around?

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No, so we got the numbers in.

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So these are the solid numbers for workers comp and liability.

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But so many of them went up, but some of them went down.

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So workers comp is calculated by rate and so they're given a rate by our workers comp provider.

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88-10 is your administrative offices and depending on how we did last year, so your

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administrative personnel, like the people that sit in chairs, depending on how many

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workers comp claims we had filed in the last three years, will be dependent on how high

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our rate goes.

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That's for them.

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Police and fire are the same way.

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So if they have claims in the last two to three years, then they'll go up.

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And so this year though, we didn't see, we actually had a, based on our projections,

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you actually went down in workers comp.

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We've moved personnel around like I've pulled so you'll see like PD dropped

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But it's because I moved the two code guys out of PD and made them their own thing

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We have people starting at different salaries because they may be newer employees

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So you'll see a drop in workers come there because the rate is also based on salary

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So their rate is applied to the individual we have a whole spreadsheet

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But the rates broken down based on your classification and there's a modifier

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and that goes into that calculation and so TML will give us those rates we

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plug them in and we it's adjusted as part of your salary okay well I did

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notice that there were a lot of increases but there were some decreases so

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that's why I suspected that you were moving people from different so we have

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people that got moved from different accounts but then you have people to have a

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modifier that went up because we may have had claims last year or the year

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before or multiple years in a row. So that does go up and down. It does fluctuate.

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And then they drop off after so many years too.

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Okay. Thank you.

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And we do have more sensitive people now than we used to.

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But here is your municipal court. So you can see here we dropped everything as we possibly

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we could, we were just leaving postage,

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janitorial supplies, we're only cleaning the judges'

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row once, some replacement for court equipment,

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and then I did move the prosecutor over here,

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that's how much we pay for a prosecutor.

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I did cut the court dates down in half,

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so you will see that the judges fee

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and the extra meetings all went down as well,

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we cut those dates in half.

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In spite of, we gave them an increase.

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Right, so you gave them a pay increase and so in the original budget

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I had the increase plus all of your dates, okay, so you they still have their increase

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I have to pay per the contract, but I cut their dates in half you cut their dates in half, okay, and that's why it went down

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Court

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once or I mean twice a month

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First and last instead of every once every week every Thursday, okay, so twice a month

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So that's the biggest change that's the biggest change. You'll see there. Oh, excuse me counselor come

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Post has a question.

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So what do we anticipate the effect to be

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in our the number of people appearing for court?

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I have no idea how many.

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So the reason that I felt comfortable with it

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is because you're seeing a drop in your court fines too.

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So that tells me that there's less people coming to court.

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There's less people coming to pay their citations.

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There's less people, so when I,

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so I come from being here for 20 years.

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When I first started here, we'd have court every Thursday

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and the line literally wrapped around the building.

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I haven't seen that in probably 10 years.

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And so, you know, we can't give a quota to issue citations.

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I'm not seeing the court numbers,

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let us showing up, like showing up on court day,

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like I used to, we used to see 100 to 150 people.

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If you look at my sitting managers report,

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you're seeing 40, 60, 30.

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It is a higher workload for the court

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than they have been used to over the last couple of years and so they're just they're it's gonna that people are gonna have to wait

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I mean that's just the gist of it. I mean we prided ourselves in trying to move people very quickly through the court

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But you know if you're coming to court, you're probably gonna have to wait a little bit and so they're just from the customer service aspect

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You are hurting that service by me cutting that in half

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But again if it's something you want to add full court days back on

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and that was, you double both of those numbers

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for the judges' fees.

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And can you recall what that savings was?

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So you just double it.

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So it was an additional 11,350 on both of those.

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So 22,000 total.

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Okay, Councillor Orozco had his hand up first

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and then Councillor Orozco.

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My first question, Dr. C.

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How much do we pay for jurors for serving?

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Ooh, Tiffany, how much do we pay for jurors?

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Six dollars a day.

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Six dollars, six dollars.

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$20 because Verconi went up to $20, but I'm not going to say anything.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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You also don't have to pay for parking here.

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You don't have to what?

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Pay for parking?

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Oh, that's true.

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You don't pay for parking here.

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I think we're normally five minutes down the road because it's Leon Valley residents.

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Councillor Marsh.

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So, are there any negatives to cutting the court by half in terms of the contract with

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the judges?

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No.

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There's not a mandatory number of court days that were required to have further agreement.

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Okay. They used to work twice a month each of them. And now they'll just work one day a month each of the two. Yeah. And I've been here when we've done this before. I mean, this isn't new. So this isn't my first budget that we've been bare bones. I've been here when we've gone a half days. I've been here when we've held court one on Monday, one on Thursday. And one was like a show cause hearings and one was just court. So I've done it when we've only had court once a month.

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And I wouldn't recommend it, it was a little bit more painful, and to me, you hurt your

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revenue more.

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When you cut down court dates, sometimes you do hurt your revenue, so we'll kind of see

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what that does to us next year and maybe we'll just back next fiscal year.

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But everybody took a hit and you know, y'all sat through me individually when we went through

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those.

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And so it was a $22,000 savings.

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But again, if you want to add it up, if you want to add it back in, just know you're

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going to change that 350 deficit, you're going to add about 22,000 back to that.

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Okay.

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Very good.

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Anyone else?

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Yes.

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Councillor Marche.

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So the other thing I noticed besides the workers' comp is the liability insurance.

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It wasn't even a line item on this previous version, so we used to have workers' comp and

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property and liability all on the bottom under contractual services and we moved it into

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personnel.

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okay and so the way Vicki had it yeah and Vicki had it, Vicki just did it

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differently and I'm trying to get you to the exact penny and so she would like

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she would do it by percentage piece we're doing it exactly per the

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department so like we're breaking it down by individual employee Vicki did it by

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an overall percentage number but in order to get you I mean you all want to like

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zero base like this is as close as you're probably ever gonna get to zero base

445
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We broke it down per employee and associated that employee with a specific dollar amount for the department. They are being paid out of

446
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:07,860
So you'll see some variations there because we are being not I don't want to say more accurate, but we're closer to the

447
00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:09,700
actual number

448
00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:13,580
Thank you

449
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:17,140
That is municipal court

450
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:19,320
We are on to finance

451
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,600
finance has a very low budget.

452
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:23,900
These are all mandatory fees.

453
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,460
We have to pay the county, the auditor,

454
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,500
our GFLA staff, our SEC ruling, our embonds.

455
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:33,500
These are all their portions for telephone,

456
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:35,460
water, electricity, advertising.

457
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:40,270
Here is the, oops, sorry.

458
00:32:40,930 --> 00:32:42,530
So they don't really have much there.

459
00:32:43,390 --> 00:32:45,690
I think I took like $1,000 from them when we met.

460
00:32:47,410 --> 00:32:48,730
City manager's budget.

461
00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:53,110
This is the summary of that.

462
00:32:54,460 --> 00:32:55,110
Here you go.

463
00:32:55,290 --> 00:32:58,970
You can see that we did really no increases.

464
00:32:59,270 --> 00:33:03,270
We did add our portion for postage, our janitorial supplies.

465
00:33:03,970 --> 00:33:09,010
I did leave the meeting supplies in there, letterhead, shared supplies.

466
00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:14,190
You'll see no real increases, more of like broken out activity.

467
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:20,130
We did cut all the employee awards, pins, employee appreciation.

468
00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:26,790
Anything that I determined, I don't want to say unimportant, but frivolous, like it's the

469
00:33:26,790 --> 00:33:31,210
taxpayers' dollars and so we try to keep everything to stuff that we actually needed.

470
00:33:31,450 --> 00:33:34,610
So we cut all the awards, all the employee appreciation stuff.

471
00:33:36,850 --> 00:33:41,110
I do have 10,000 for non-retainer questions for the attorney.

472
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:46,970
You'll see that kind of request here, economic development budget and the red light camera

473
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:47,390
budget.

474
00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:51,970
It's any question outside of that $60,000 that were required to pay for your

475
00:33:51,970 --> 00:33:56,430
sitting for your attorney's contract. So any question that comes up that it

476
00:33:56,430 --> 00:34:01,350
requires a legal response comes out of that $10,000 and again I have $12,000 in

477
00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:07,410
economic development and I want to say another $8,000 in red light camera. Then you

478
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:12,410
have your TML non-retainer. So that means if we get sued and TML is going to

479
00:34:12,410 --> 00:34:17,210
cover the litigation, that's your $5,000 deductible. So we budget for

480
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:19,010
approximately one lawsuit a year.

481
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,440
We have our bear county elections, your bonds and then your

482
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,480
portions of like the telephone printing and advertising those kind of things. I do have your

483
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,640
travel and stuff broken down. I did give you all that but it was too for me to squeeze it on here

484
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:47,320
and you know I was just as I was going through the budget today or today and last night I said oh

485
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Oh, where did all those mini-code?

486
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,220
We need to have open records, but you moved it to IT.

487
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,580
Yes, ma'am.

488
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,460
So that's what you were doing.

489
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:54,920
So you'll see some time.

490
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,000
But you'll find it if you keep on going through the budget.

491
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,860
So anyway, yes, Councillor Compas.

492
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:06,700
I'd just like to highlight for our citizens that there's

493
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:11,860
a decrease in the haven for hope of 28,790.

494
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,440
And that the reason why we do not have it in this budget

495
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:23,060
Is that bear County is going to be paying the 100% of that is they got a grant and so they're going to

496
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:29,120
Supposedly cover the remainder of that for next year. I just want to highlight that. I did cut a

497
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,580
Colgan water service

498
00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:37,000
You know anything again that was that was paid out of here. We also had

499
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:44,440
Like all the HR programs HR recruiting open enrollment. I cut all of those we would sometimes give like little lunch bags

500
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,660
or something when an employee would start or you know pins or something we just cut all of that.

501
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:56,080
Yeah I don't know I mean I know we don't have enough money for all of that but I just hate

502
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,580
not to have incentives for our employees you know awards and stuff. I think that's part of

503
00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:08,760
working right well if you ask the employees whether or not they want to be brought up to market

504
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,220
level or would they want a pin? They want their money. Got you? All right. Very good.

505
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:18,980
That's important. I mean, forget those pins, right? Do you want a pin or a trophy to hang on

506
00:36:18,980 --> 00:36:24,480
your phone? Oh, okay. That's right. Well, they said they can't take it to HUB and buy groceries as

507
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,740
their common response. There you go. And they probably would rather have a day off to rather than

508
00:36:29,740 --> 00:36:31,260
yes. Yeah. Okay.

509
00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:40,070
Let's see here. Information technology. So you'll see these, you'll see this

510
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:45,990
here. I'm trying really hard. This was a new one we brought in last year that you're

511
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:52,790
before. As you see, something slowly kind of getting moved into this department. This

512
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:58,410
is where you house municode under your contractual service. We put them all here. Your Just

513
00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:06,130
FOIA, your open record, your website, all of that's there. Your Microsoft Office license,

514
00:37:06,130 --> 00:37:09,430
your nitro, your morocchi, which is your firewall stuff.

515
00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:12,990
The majority of your encode is here.

516
00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:17,790
Now, speaking with Councillor Compos, so you do pay,

517
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:20,970
and I've sent you all this in an update, you do have a portion

518
00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:24,310
of encode paid out of water and sewer already.

519
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:27,110
That is just for the utility billing portion of it

520
00:37:27,110 --> 00:37:27,950
that we put over there.

521
00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:31,450
But he brought up a valid point when I was meeting with him

522
00:37:31,450 --> 00:37:34,850
that we still do their financial reconciliation piece.

523
00:37:34,850 --> 00:37:41,850
So I could take approximately eight more thousand out of the general fund and move it over in the water and the water fund

524
00:37:41,850 --> 00:37:49,730
Of your encode services. So just keep that in mind. It's just I haven't done it yet, but just you know, you can note that a little bit

525
00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:57,510
I had a question about tech lead. I thought we were increasing that for next year not decreasing it

526
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:59,330
It'll depend on how much staff

527
00:37:59,850 --> 00:38:04,110
Extra that I need for staff time. Okay. All right. So if they're gonna come and help

528
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:08,750
Daniel, or they're not, or what we're going to do with that, it'll be dependent on that.

529
00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:14,700
We're trying to get all those projects cleaned up. Hopefully we'll get them done by now to the fiscal year.

530
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:15,820
Thank you.

531
00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:17,540
Police expenditures.

532
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,400
I'm going to get down to the breakdown because it's just easier for me to go through the big breakdown.

533
00:38:24,580 --> 00:38:26,580
You can see we kept everything pretty flush.

534
00:38:27,220 --> 00:38:28,700
You'll see a decrease in ammunition.

535
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,020
What I did was I moved that over into crime control and red light cameras.

536
00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:41,840
But when we touch red light cameras, I'm probably going to move a little bit more out of red light cameras and over into crime control because you still have about 11,000 in the good and crime control.

537
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:53,720
So it makes sense to kind of move some more stuff over there. And when we get to red light cameras, we'll have a conversation a little bit about what that's looking like. But in here, you can see I really didn't give him increases anywhere.

538
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:59,520
There we did have to increase the computer stuff and radio equipment.

539
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:02,460
We just need to purchase and update some of our items.

540
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Other than that, he had no other increases.

541
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:10,160
You can see that his total increases were $6,900 total.

542
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,200
And what's the shooting range?

543
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,520
You didn't have it this year, but you have it next year.

544
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:16,160
Is that new?

545
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,160
No, where are you at?

546
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,620
Police Department.

547
00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:20,140
It's just broken down.

548
00:39:20,260 --> 00:39:22,000
It was included under a different line.

549
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,020
I know.

550
00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:28,320
just break down every single thing. They had to prove every dollar to me this year. And so it was

551
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,480
grouped in with another item. All right. It was just like in there as operating miscellaneous, I think.

552
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,240
But they're required to go to the, they're required by law to go. Okay.

553
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:42,570
Here's the breakdown by

554
00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:49,110
your police department. The biggest increase is your CAD and that's just going up in price.

555
00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:54,930
cable, the other big thing to know, oh, it's in red light cameras, is your Wi-Fi.

556
00:39:55,610 --> 00:40:01,350
We do have Google Fiber providing service, so that may cut the cost a little bit in your

557
00:40:01,350 --> 00:40:02,090
Wi-Fi amount.

558
00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:08,930
The only capital is the gym equipment and the police department, and it's just the treadmill,

559
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:13,090
and so what we're going to do, we need to replace that, all that gym equipment needs to be replaced,

560
00:40:13,650 --> 00:40:17,390
but what we're going to do is just replace one piece a year is kind of my goal, so we're

561
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:19,330
doing the treadmill this year next year we'll do the

562
00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:22,290
roar and so on and so on. And on the page before you

563
00:40:22,290 --> 00:40:26,050
had animal aborting 20,000 and you move that to another

564
00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:28,850
section. So we can make it with it. We made its own

565
00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:31,810
department. Sorry, with the code in animal. That's where that

566
00:40:31,810 --> 00:40:33,970
went. That just wanted to verify that. Okay, thank you.

567
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:38,210
This is your end pound lot. You can see this is. Excuse me,

568
00:40:38,290 --> 00:40:42,870
just second counselor compass. Could you go back to one more

569
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:51,650
slide right here, animal boarding. Tell us a little bit about the increase of the

570
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:58,010
14,780 in the axon vehicle body cameras. That's just your increase for your

571
00:40:58,010 --> 00:41:06,430
axon equipment. So all of your vehicles and your body worn stuff, some of it

572
00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:09,930
just needs to be replaced as outdated. I mean the chief income and give a better

573
00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:11,170
fight than I can for?

574
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,260
Good evening, everyone. Good evening, how are you? So this is to

575
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:24,880
for my fireman, that our policeman, we're going to have to purchase some

576
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,760
equipment and we're going to put it in their vehicles just like our

577
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:38,920
vehicles. We have had instances where we need them to be video recording just

578
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,060
like we do because if they take a police action,

579
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:44,820
if they're questioned, it's going to come

580
00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:51,200
to me. So if I don't have the same thing for them that I have for our guys, then that

581
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,100
will create a problem. So we're going to standardize the equipment in everybody's vehicle.

582
00:41:56,860 --> 00:42:02,500
Okay. And how many people are that are in the fire department? The three? Just three.

583
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:10,640
However, any one of the three can operate any of their equipment, so this is their equipment and our equipment.

584
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:19,900
Okay, so I thank you for the explanation chief valid reason for it, but my right, but my question is

585
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:27,740
why isn't that a capital expenditure as a per individual pieces and their life expectancy isn't five years?

586
00:42:27,740 --> 00:42:29,400
Okay. How long?

587
00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:32,380
It's a $14,000 one item.

588
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,720
Each individual item is not,

589
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,240
does it reach the capital expense?

590
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:38,040
I have.

591
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,440
We've tried with the police stuff as capital

592
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,760
before in the auditorium,

593
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,900
except it's the capital item.

594
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:44,000
It's why I'm expecting it.

595
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:48,980
And what about getting this equipment

596
00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:52,460
out of the other type of funds?

597
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,660
I'm going to check out right now

598
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:56,040
in your other funds.

599
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,160
I mean, I can take, if you don't want to move your ammunition over to crime control,

600
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,060
you can move 11,000 of this over to crime control if you wanted to.

601
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,420
But it's a wash, but it wouldn't have a net zero effect.

602
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:09,960
Okay.

603
00:43:10,460 --> 00:43:10,640
So.

604
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:15,280
Well, it would alleviate from your general fund dollars, but I forget your crime control

605
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,360
prevention is very specific to your crime control preventors.

606
00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:18,960
It's covering.

607
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,620
This is for police officers in the fire department, so it needs to come from general fund dollars.

608
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:28,120
Forfeiture doesn't qualify for that or anything like that.

609
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:30,200
The absolute police officer housed in the police department.

610
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Okay, thank you.

611
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Okay, thank you, Chief.

612
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:37,780
Okay,

613
00:43:41,340 --> 00:43:42,300
any other questions on this?

614
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,280
Yes, go ahead, Councillor.

615
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:52,980
There's a big swing here of what Councillor Mersh was looking at.

616
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,420
44,901 decrease in liability insurance.

617
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,360
Can you kind of discuss this?

618
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,240
Two guys, two people that were housed here.

619
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:06,120
your two animal control and code enforcement got moved out of there and moved over into

620
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,440
their own section. And then you also have a slurry of new officers coming on and so their

621
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,240
pay is lower and so therefore that number will come down a little bit. Thank you.

622
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:22,260
You're welcome. So back to capital, again we're requesting just the treadmill.

623
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:30,840
in-pound lot you can see it's a very, very small budget, 16,000. The biggest

624
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:37,280
increase here is your auto data direct and it's just required for us to post our

625
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,520
vehicles on. There was a section called standby. What is that? That's your standby

626
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,760
pay. But it's for Jimmy, so Jimmy is also a detective. And so anytime we take

627
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,540
In pound of vehicles, then there's drugs on the back. He's functions is that person. He's got to come in

628
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:59,980
He's your sticky stamp. Okay, so that pays him for coming in correct and that means he can't

629
00:45:00,340 --> 00:45:29,960
Drinker go out, he's on standby. Okay. So he's essentially at work at home like he can't do anything. Okay. I mean, I say drink, but I don't know what people do on their. Thank you. I just had that seen that before. Okay. Thank you. Probably not the best term, but can't leave town can't do anything has to be on standby. Okay. We pay them for that. The capital item for in pound is the cameras. We just need to add a few cameras back here at in pound. Fire expenditures. This is just a breakdown.

630
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,780
The thing I did mention when I met with you all individually, the thing that I would

631
00:45:35,780 --> 00:45:42,200
like to see increased for him had to do with his repairs and maintenance external.

632
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,800
He requested $100,000.

633
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:46,860
He's tracking about $100,000.

634
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,740
But last year of 70, I went ahead and relinquished to 70.

635
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,280
And if he's got any big expenditures, he'd have to come to council.

636
00:45:54,940 --> 00:45:59,160
but we do have things that go out on fire trucks and ambulances and they're

637
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,700
just not cheap and so even our new stuff or old stuff whatever it is he's got

638
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:09,580
to get it repaired and sometimes their emergency repairs so so we do at some

639
00:46:09,580 --> 00:46:15,460
point have extra money that's where I would like to see it you know repairs

640
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:19,780
maintenance there same thing in the police police department we also have to

641
00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:23,640
have a conversation now that we're on the police and fire for those of you I gave

642
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,020
maybe I'll send you all the legislative update.

643
00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:30,320
There's 260 legislative pieces.

644
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Excuse me, before I forget,

645
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,320
the governor did sign that bill for the water today.

646
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,880
Yes, so that was good, so I just want to let you know.

647
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:41,700
But I did, so the list that I gave you

648
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:43,780
is the list that's going to apply to us.

649
00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:45,760
So it is quite an extensive list.

650
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,680
And so there is a lot of training pieces in there.

651
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,240
And we're going to have to take a look

652
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:58,440
look at the training dollars associated with what we have programmed into the budget.

653
00:46:59,380 --> 00:47:05,480
I may need an actual extra like close to 10,000 on both police and fire in order to cover

654
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,060
those costs.

655
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,140
I'm waiting.

656
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,900
The only reason I haven't plugged that in and the only reason we're not having an in-depth

657
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:17,440
conversation about it is I'm going to my legislative update tomorrow and Saturday, sorry,

658
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,160
Saturday morning.

659
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,700
And so I will be able to have a better idea of what those requirements are going to look

660
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:28,440
like and if it's going to be every single officer by a certain date or what that date looks

661
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:28,820
like.

662
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,140
The Uvalde Strong Act has a lot of training requirements for both police and fire.

663
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,960
Police also have additional mental illness stuff that have come out and some other things

664
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,520
that have come out.

665
00:47:39,620 --> 00:47:43,880
And so I just need to make sure that the training dollars are correct.

666
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:51,300
And so I'll have a better idea of who that's going to apply to and how much money needs to be added if any to either of those accounts

667
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:59,980
So you also had just keep that in mind and I'll again, I'll have a better idea. I'm hopefully by the end of the week. Yes, Councilor

668
00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:11,300
So those are commonly referred to is unfunded mandates. Yeah, so they are putting more requirements on us, but not providing us with any dollars

669
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,940
So the audience knows that, so when we're talking about those increases, it's not something

670
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:21,080
that we're, we need to comply with, but-

671
00:48:21,580 --> 00:48:22,820
And the other component-

672
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:23,700
But we have to do it.

673
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Right, you don't have a choice.

674
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,040
We have a choice.

675
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,600
You have to do it in order to be compliance, but you're also playing for overtime because

676
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,820
when those guys are out at training and if we have to do it in bulk by said date, I've

677
00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:37,180
got to send a group of people at one time, that means people have to stay here and then

678
00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:37,580
they switch.

679
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:41,320
And so there's overtime that gets applied during that time frame in order to meet these men.

680
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:47,180
It happens every time legislature, last time they had like four or five additional training sessions that came out.

681
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,600
But we were lucky last time a lot of them were webinar, some of them were free.

682
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,780
So sometimes that happens and so I'm not looking at a big increase in dollars.

683
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:56,660
I don't know what this looks like yet.

684
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,340
And so that's, I'm just bringing it up because it could be an addition to your budget.

685
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:01,400
That's not currently there.

686
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:02,580
Okay, Councilor Rosca.

687
00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:02,640
Yeah.

688
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:03,920
Oh, thank you, Mayor.

689
00:49:05,780 --> 00:49:11,600
Dr. Codilla, on the medical control, taking $7,000 out, what exactly is medical control?

690
00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:12,740
We're required.

691
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,420
Your EMS is required to have a doctor on staff 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

692
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:18,320
We use UT health.

693
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,320
And so we went out for bid for your medical director, and his rate just came in a little bit lower

694
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,820
than we originally anticipated in the budget, like we just had a guesstimate, and so it came

695
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:28,100
in.

696
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,540
So this is to the exact dollar per the contract, okay?

697
00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:36,380
So, and also on the strike, you allocated $2,000 on that.

698
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,080
Are we having to pay the RMAG and the strike in order to be part of the, we do.

699
00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:47,140
This is your ambulance.

700
00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:49,160
This is actually ARPRA money for your capital.

701
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,000
Hopefully, we were hoping to get it.

702
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:53,340
Yes.

703
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:55,020
Oh, I'm sorry.

704
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,600
Councillor Murge.

705
00:49:56,740 --> 00:49:57,020
How are you?

706
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,380
I'm sorry.

707
00:49:57,620 --> 00:50:00,960
Before you fire, some things caught my attention in the supplies.

708
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,640
supplies and medications went from like $74,000 to $2,000?

709
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,820
Where do you see that?

710
00:50:11,330 --> 00:50:11,790
Disposable.

711
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:12,470
Which page?

712
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:16,330
No, it went from $72,000 to $74,000.

713
00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:16,750
Oh, OK.

714
00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:17,370
It went up by $2,000.

715
00:50:17,530 --> 00:50:17,770
OK.

716
00:50:18,110 --> 00:50:18,310
All right.

717
00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:21,250
And then oxygen also was one that changed.

718
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:23,390
It went up $600 just to cost of oxygen.

719
00:50:23,390 --> 00:50:23,630
OK.

720
00:50:23,770 --> 00:50:24,250
Just the cost.

721
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:26,410
And then the PPE and decontamination?

722
00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:28,850
It's just the cost of those items going up.

723
00:50:28,930 --> 00:50:31,110
Those are your personal protection equipment

724
00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:34,510
and your decontamination supplies to rip down everything.

725
00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:39,250
And they've gotten other mandates too when they take out a patient.

726
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:42,890
There's criteria they have to do in order to decontaminate the ambulances

727
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:44,350
every time they switch out a patient.

728
00:50:45,970 --> 00:50:47,490
Thank you, you're welcome.

729
00:50:48,330 --> 00:50:48,870
Anything else?

730
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:53,530
And do we know the status of the ambulance?

731
00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:55,690
Chief, we got a new status of the ambulance.

732
00:50:55,770 --> 00:50:59,250
Yeah, is it, are we going to hopefully get it in FY26?

733
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:11,970
six. Yes. Okay. Good. 20 this year. No. Not so much. Okay. It's it's we finalized all of our

734
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:20,590
graphics. We've done all this. It's in movement right now, but we'll see it by December or

735
00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:22,810
January. How long does it take you for an ambulance now?

736
00:51:26,570 --> 00:51:35,910
600 days after you get your stuff. Like we had to buy, they'll no longer

737
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:42,850
supply a vehicle. We bought the vehicle already last year. Been sitting on the

738
00:51:42,850 --> 00:51:47,050
side of our building with 88 miles on it for two years now.

739
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:59,710
It was supposed to be a long year long delivery, it was 11 days, but we got it before tariffs,

740
00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:09,730
we got it before everything, and fire trucks are four years, so everything is like this now.

741
00:52:11,970 --> 00:52:16,450
That's a concern because I know in the future we need more ambulances and stuff.

742
00:52:16,810 --> 00:52:21,690
Can you just put like a down payment on it or you have to pay for it all at front or how does that work?

743
00:52:22,290 --> 00:52:23,190
You can order it.

744
00:52:23,330 --> 00:52:24,030
You can order it.

745
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:33,150
The same manager and I have talked about the spacing of these things and we need to commit to an ambulance in October.

746
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:44,670
And hopefully October 25, hopefully we'll get it in 27, 28 budget, but we need to commit to it.

747
00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:45,250
Okay.

748
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:45,850
And dedicate.

749
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:48,150
To get, because we're waiting in line, is all right.

750
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:51,350
Yeah, that's what I was, that was the gist of the question.

751
00:52:51,550 --> 00:52:51,670
Yeah.

752
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:56,250
So that when I said that you'll have the 6 million sitting there, that's been one of the things

753
00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:59,510
I've sent you on the past, you know, we need to have a conversation if you want to do some

754
00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:00,530
designated funds.

755
00:53:00,530 --> 00:53:04,830
But that's why I sent y'all in the capital presentation that I've given y'all twice now

756
00:53:05,690 --> 00:53:10,590
For the future have a 10-year projection like are there any items that you want to start

757
00:53:11,290 --> 00:53:17,430
Designating funds for for the future. So like do you want to take out of that six million in reserve that you are not six

758
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:25,610
But five sitting in reserve do you want to take a hundred thousand dollars and set aside that for an ambulance this year next year because we'll probably get it in

759
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:26,710
28

760
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:32,450
So then, you know, an ambulance is probably going to be closer to about a half a million probably by then.

761
00:53:37,630 --> 00:53:42,290
Okay. Sounds good for thought. Yeah. So this is the fire department.

762
00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:48,590
So again, they're asking for their ambulance. This is just the box piece we've already bought the truck portion of it.

763
00:53:49,810 --> 00:53:51,170
Here we are at Public Works.

764
00:53:53,690 --> 00:54:00,430
These are public works operating expenses, you can see the majority of our items have decreased or have no increase in them.

765
00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:06,490
We've left pretty much everything the same. They're tracking along pretty good for the year.

766
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:10,890
The biggest thing for her, it's not in this one, it's in.

767
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:18,030
I did take out the painting of the buildings, was it in your public works one more

768
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:19,970
than the painting of the buildings, or was it in it?

769
00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:30,000
Okay, so we originally had 200,000 for painting and assessing your city hall and fire department

770
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,180
buildings, and so we just haven't done it since we moved into the building, and so it was

771
00:54:35,180 --> 00:54:39,920
in the budget, I pulled it from the budget, that could be essentially a capital item.

772
00:54:40,660 --> 00:54:46,320
and so just a food for thought we at some point I mean if you're not going to

773
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,040
budget for it this year you should be looking for it next year both the

774
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,020
buildings need to be painted they need to be assessed when we did this building the

775
00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:57,520
back wall was gonna fall off because the building had never really been checked

776
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,760
in all the years and so it's Melinda's recommendation that y'all need to do

777
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,180
that sooner rather than later so I did pull it from the budget because you don't

778
00:55:06,180 --> 00:55:09,560
have the money this year but that may be something else that you might want to

779
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,760
consider designating some funds too as well.

780
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:16,820
Okay, and then the engineering services decreased?

781
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:23,320
I just decreased it, and so if we have anything that comes up, so we don't, she, so anytime

782
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,840
you all need a traffic thing like this week alone, we had some flooding issues at Grismo

783
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,920
Park, we've had the engineers on it, and so because one house got flooded and so we had

784
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,160
to send Byron out to go take a look and they're assessing it and came up with a game plan

785
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,720
on how we think we're going to do that.

786
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,800
But that just comes out of the stuff unless it's a huge project and we'll bring it to council because we've got to go for contractors or something.

787
00:55:45,420 --> 00:55:48,980
But little assessments like that, we just get done because they just need to get done.

788
00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:53,580
So I just drop that amount and so anytime anything like that happens, people are just going to have to wait.

789
00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:01,200
And so that service isn't going to be there. We had somebody on Pepperwood that was worried about the debris coming off and she had the engineers take a look at it.

790
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,240
You know, not a big amount, but they took, and it's coming off of his own property, and it's not, has anything to do with us.

791
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,400
And so we do do those things on the side to address citizen concerns, and we try to get them done fairly quickly.

792
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,840
Next year, it's going to be a little bit more hesitant because I've dropped that number.

793
00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:20,280
And I also dropped it because that seems to be an area of concern.

794
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,720
People always say, look at your contracture, paying all this money to your engineers, and that just kept coming up and kept coming up.

795
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:32,940
And I gave y'all the the reason we're paying the engineers is because y'all voted on these projects the hike and bike trail project

796
00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:37,940
The water and sewer line projects and so those are the checks associated those big dollar checks

797
00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:42,700
So that's what's associated with the engineering so what we're actually budgeting for for engineering

798
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:44,560
I was like, let's go ahead and bring it down

799
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:50,340
I'll just bring more to y'all if it comes up and then y'all have to make a decision of whether or not you want to spend those engineering costs

800
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,640
But we don't on a day-to-day spend a lot on engineering

801
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,260
It's the big projects that you're seeing those big checks written to for projects y'all voted on and

802
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:03,100
The liability insurance also

803
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:12,140
Yeah, again reduce. Yeah, it's just the number that came in is that just a number so the first the 83 was it's an estimate

804
00:57:12,140 --> 00:57:16,920
I estimated two percent or whatever okay for last year and then actual number came in and it just came in low

805
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,640
Okay, I have to at the beginning of that when we start this budget remember y'all wanted it earlier

806
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:32,360
So I started it with a lot of preliminary stuff, so if you all want more solid numbers then our first presentation wouldn't be happening to like now.

807
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,420
Okay, so we've got the numbers on the TMRS, we've got the numbers on liability.

808
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:45,980
I mean you got property liability and workers come. The only one you're waiting on is your health insurance, is your health insurance for employees, is just your health insurance.

809
00:57:45,980 --> 00:57:56,140
That's it and then whatever your property tax known your revenue. Okay. There you go. Just those two all right and if the estimations are going to change maybe your estimations will change your property valuation estimates will change.

810
00:57:56,460 --> 00:57:56,760
All right.

811
00:57:58,180 --> 00:57:58,540
Sorry,

812
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:07,470
I lost my train. It's out there for a little bit. No, no worries. So as you can see, we have no increases in public works.

813
00:58:09,590 --> 00:58:14,050
your public works, we do have debris removal. I did cut this. This has to do with your trees

814
00:58:14,050 --> 00:58:18,930
that fall. And so just know that it will just that's going to be until a little bit of a minimum

815
00:58:18,930 --> 00:58:25,230
next year. Public works we still we still are covering their uniforms and every other department

816
00:58:25,230 --> 00:58:30,050
we cut everybody's uniforms, but they have to be in certain gear. So police fire we do play for

817
00:58:30,050 --> 00:58:36,110
their uniforms as well as public works. But you might see a small decrease in that depending on

818
00:58:36,110 --> 00:58:40,930
what that contract comes back at. We went out to a dirt. We used census currently, but Melinda

819
00:58:42,350 --> 00:58:45,610
kind of went out for bids on that and to see if we can get that number a little bit lower

820
00:58:45,610 --> 00:58:49,830
and so it may come in a little bit lower than that. Okay, so the victor pollution, my ability,

821
00:58:50,030 --> 00:58:54,730
is that a new? No, ma'am. It's that you paid it every year. It's part of TML, but we broke it down

822
00:58:54,730 --> 00:59:01,370
this year. Oh. It's it's it's victor, but it's a portion of TML for your all your water, sewer,

823
00:59:02,070 --> 00:59:05,670
you've paid it, you have to pay it every year.

824
00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:06,590
All right,

825
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,740
again, I try to bring down your budget

826
00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:14,120
to every penny, everything that we actually spend.

827
00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:18,720
Yeah, I was just noticing, and I think it was the water,

828
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:23,480
the sewer, maybe this near-map, 30% novos,

829
00:59:23,740 --> 00:59:25,720
your net, 30%, you had all these percentages.

830
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,480
Is that because you're sharing the cost over all the department

831
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,760
Well, the good departments, I just wanted to verify that I was reading that correct.

832
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,420
Okay, thank you.

833
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:40,280
So public works, we're looking at an ATV, a concrete grinder and equipment trailer.

834
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:44,580
We did move the grappler truck into storm water, just storm water.

835
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:47,380
Okay, planning and zoning.

836
00:59:48,020 --> 00:59:52,120
The biggest change here was I did take out the request for a master plan.

837
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:57,260
Again, that's roughly about 250,000 if that's something that you want to consider.

838
00:59:57,260 --> 00:59:59,980
that could be a capital item she had

839
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:32,980
As a contractual item, but you could consider that in the future as a capital item, but all those seem to add up right. You got 300,000 for ambulance and 254, master plan, and so just keep that in mind. But at some point, you're going to have to do your rest. Next year, right? So here are all your inspections. So remember earlier when I told you your building permit fees. If you add up all of your building inspections right here, we broke it down.

840
01:00:32,980 --> 01:00:43,440
San Diego West is just your estimation center trilogy and then not the engineering service, but your health inspection those numbers add up to your building permit side of your expenditures.

841
01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:45,860
I mean of your revenue side.

842
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:54,900
So that 100,000, 90,000, 90,000, 21, 21, 42, and then your health inspection for 20.

843
01:00:57,310 --> 01:01:02,450
My permit now stays the same your city attorney. I did drop it.

844
01:01:03,970 --> 01:01:08,650
I'm hoping to get the sustainability of really done this fiscal year, so I don't have

845
01:01:08,650 --> 01:01:12,070
anything big planned for next year that he would be reviewing and planning in zoning.

846
01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:20,520
Okay, economic development, again,

847
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:24,530
let's see, get down to the breakdown.

848
01:01:25,150 --> 01:01:28,070
There is really no increase here.

849
01:01:28,790 --> 01:01:31,730
We did cut under contractual services.

850
01:01:32,330 --> 01:01:34,010
I did cut local intel.

851
01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:40,490
We're not seeing the traffic there for that, but we did leave PASER AI, Moody's and Zactax.

852
01:01:42,830 --> 01:01:47,550
We were able because he had many left and we're able to have ED project funding increase.

853
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:53,430
Now, if you take a look at what he's actually generating in revenue, you could possibly move

854
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:57,530
some salary over here if you needed to.

855
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:09,310
here is your new code and animal control expenditure and so you'll see like

856
01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:13,650
there's no history here it's a new department. Councilor Compos has a question.

857
01:02:13,870 --> 01:02:18,390
If we go back to the economic development and you mentioned possibly moving

858
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:23,470
some salaries so give us an example some examples. Sure so I could do a percentage of

859
01:02:23,470 --> 01:02:28,830
Susanna's salary not all her salary but a portion of her salary over here your

860
01:02:28,830 --> 01:02:33,910
Your economic development is economic and community development and so a lot of her department

861
01:02:33,910 --> 01:02:36,270
is the, it used to be called the community development department.

862
01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:39,710
And so some of her salary could be moved over here.

863
01:02:42,090 --> 01:02:46,410
You could probably even move one of your permit texts, a little portion of their salary over

864
01:02:46,410 --> 01:02:47,790
here, not a lot, but a little bit.

865
01:02:48,790 --> 01:02:50,430
Can you go back one more slide?

866
01:02:51,290 --> 01:02:52,270
It's planning and zoning.

867
01:02:52,830 --> 01:02:53,450
Oh, okay.

868
01:02:53,770 --> 01:02:55,570
You're looking, so this is what you're looking at.

869
01:02:55,570 --> 01:02:59,170
So I have to go all the way to the beginning, bear with me.

870
01:03:00,270 --> 01:03:08,950
Yeah, well it's because it's the revenue piece, it's not going to change a whole lot because your revenue in general fund is all general fund dollars.

871
01:03:09,550 --> 01:03:12,430
But it would just lower your project management.

872
01:03:12,590 --> 01:03:17,270
But your economic development sales tax is estimated to be about 419,000 next year.

873
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:23,250
So if you subtract what we're paying Mr. Salinas salary and then all of his

874
01:03:23,250 --> 01:03:29,290
operating expenses he's got oh gosh I did the math earlier. A little bit of

875
01:03:29,290 --> 01:03:32,710
money left over that you could move some of the salaries but it would decrease that

876
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:39,070
ED project funding from 192 to like 140 something. So you could move some some

877
01:03:39,070 --> 01:03:42,870
salaries into this department but it's not gonna really alleviate it's all

878
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:48,270
general fund dollars. So it's all going to come here. So there's no moving in the overall

879
01:03:48,270 --> 01:03:56,250
deficit. Not really. No, but y'all watch this separately. So you, I mean, you're essentially

880
01:03:56,250 --> 01:04:03,610
taking from, they don't have a reserve fund from there. That makes any sense. And so it helps

881
01:04:03,610 --> 01:04:04,210
a little bit.

882
01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:12,570
Are you saying there's not a reserve fund for? No, there's a reserve fund.

883
01:04:12,570 --> 01:04:14,170
but what I'm saying is when you don't add,

884
01:04:14,430 --> 01:04:16,590
if you don't use all your ED project funding,

885
01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:18,730
then there's money left over goes into the reserve fund,

886
01:04:18,830 --> 01:04:21,490
but if you're using that money to pay for salaries

887
01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:23,110
versus your ED project funding,

888
01:04:23,110 --> 01:04:25,210
then you're not gonna have money to go into that reserve one night,

889
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:25,430
am I?

890
01:04:26,070 --> 01:04:26,310
Gotcha.

891
01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:29,050
And there's currently a surplus of...

892
01:04:29,050 --> 01:04:31,150
Yeah, there's about 900,000 sitting over there.

893
01:04:32,430 --> 01:04:34,930
Well, no, just from current revenue...

894
01:04:34,930 --> 01:04:36,450
Yes, yes, a little bit.

895
01:04:36,490 --> 01:04:37,570
I think it's like 30,000.

896
01:04:39,590 --> 01:04:46,230
So, I would say that if it's possible, I would move that we consider that.

897
01:04:46,670 --> 01:04:51,950
Yeah. Well, and that's why we're having, so there's these little things that, I mean, it's not going to have a dramatic impact on that three.

898
01:04:52,270 --> 01:04:58,590
So, you have the 350,000. And so, I'm going to try to make that number as small as I can by moving little things around.

899
01:04:58,730 --> 01:05:03,750
But when you're talking about big impact, my big concern is really coming up with an additional 50.

900
01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:10,670
because if the no-new revenue rate comes in at $0.3 or $0.2, right, it comes in at $0.2

901
01:05:10,670 --> 01:05:16,670
because you're short $167,000. So let's just say the no-new revenue rate comes in at, you know,

902
01:05:17,550 --> 01:05:24,070
.50, you know, you could go up to $0.3 and cover your $300,000 deficit. I don't know

903
01:05:24,550 --> 01:05:29,750
anywhere else to cut from your line, from your stuff. Maybe I'll see something or maybe y'all aren't

904
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:33,730
passionate about something and then we can cut from other places. But and then we can certainly do

905
01:05:33,730 --> 01:05:39,950
that but you would have to make up that deficit by raising your property tax and so if you're

906
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:45,750
going to the no-new revenue rate my concern is really shifting about that 50,000 mark, 60,000 mark

907
01:05:46,290 --> 01:05:51,250
out of your general fund so you're not having to raise your property tax as much if that makes any

908
01:05:51,250 --> 01:05:57,010
sense and so I'll make some of those little shifts but you're not talking an astronomical amount

909
01:05:57,010 --> 01:06:02,550
money. You're talking $10,000 here and $6,000 here. So you're not going to see a huge

910
01:06:02,550 --> 01:06:06,150
impact, but I'm trying to get that deficit as small as I can.

911
01:06:08,940 --> 01:06:09,920
But I just want, I'm looking

912
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,040
at faces and when I say, hey, I'm moving this or that or, hey, you probably need to look

913
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:19,400
at your master plan or, hey, you might want to have designated funds. I'm opening that

914
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:25,020
door for discussion. If I'm not hearing it, then I'm thinking that you all aren't passionate

915
01:06:25,020 --> 01:06:27,440
about that and so I'm moving on to the next item.

916
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:32,380
I think we're, once we hear everything then I think we can come back

917
01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:32,580
and visit.

918
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:37,100
Yeah and I'm making a list of what you're saying so I mean again I don't, I'm

919
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:40,580
waiting for that dog on number at the end of July you know that'll give us the

920
01:06:40,580 --> 01:06:44,020
first workshop. I mean we'll hopefully present, we normally present at the

921
01:06:44,020 --> 01:06:48,400
coffee which is on July 26 and so the number he's saying that he'll have the

922
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,560
numbers July 25th, so I don't know if I'll be ready on July 26th, and stay up all night.

923
01:06:55,180 --> 01:07:00,480
And so, but we'll have coming in August, we'll have some better numbers for y'all definitely

924
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,420
and hopefully by then I'll have some insurance, health insurance numbers, or at least the first

925
01:07:05,420 --> 01:07:10,280
round. So we'll have a cleaner looking budget, and by then I'll make these little moves

926
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,500
that we're kind of discussing to try to alleviate your general fund as much as I can.

927
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,680
Okay, but that's what I'm trying to get a feel like right here like yes, we have to keep or no don't move or

928
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,400
That's what I'm trying to kind of gauge from you off anybody has some serious heartburn on something then

929
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:32,220
Right now then I know not to make that move or to go but if if it's still like you're waiting and that's fine

930
01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:37,400
We can I mean this budget y'all are improving the budget. It's just a workshop. But that's what I'm trying to gauge right now

931
01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:44,220
Because you know, we don't we have to know how much extra or how much money we have to where we can plug in to

932
01:07:44,740 --> 01:07:51,600
increasing the fire repairs or increasing painting or you know fixing the wall you know that kind of thing so that's why yeah

933
01:07:52,660 --> 01:07:57,280
But if but if y'all said no, we don't like no, I'm like if I hear like a

934
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:05,640
Resounding no or y'all say the treadmill. No, absolutely and then I'll just pull it like there's no reason for me to like if there's anything here that I that y'all are

935
01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:13,380
Absolutely against you don't want to see or that y'all rather have this over that I'd like to bring that up for discussion now if y'all want to wait

936
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:17,720
that's fine but this is the first step of like having that conversation. That's why I said this is

937
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,820
pretty informal. I'm not trying to, you know, it's not a one-way conversation. I'm trying for it not to

938
01:08:22,820 --> 01:08:24,680
be public works.

939
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:33,280
Building maintenance. As you can see here we didn't go up in anything. We're kind of

940
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,900
past this already shared now. I answered that question. This is what they were requesting. We're on

941
01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:42,800
planning and zoning. You can see that she didn't really have any increases here. I took out the

942
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:49,440
departmental uniforms, you know all the plaques and trophies. These were all her building

943
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:57,440
inspections. My permit's now into the attorney fees, economic development. This was, you

944
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:05,780
can see he took out miscellaneous expenses. Well, yeah. $9,000 for the fiesta medals. Do

945
01:09:05,780 --> 01:09:09,160
You all think that that's, you know, I don't know.

946
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:10,320
You can cut it.

947
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,840
I mean, I like it, but I mean, if we're cutting other stuff,

948
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,900
maybe we ought to not do the metals next year.

949
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,480
I mean, you know, it's nice, but it's, it really is.

950
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:21,840
But anyway, what do you all think?

951
01:09:21,980 --> 01:09:27,560
I mean, it just 9,000, 9,000, that could fund something else.

952
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:28,660
I agree to cut it.

953
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:29,460
Yeah.

954
01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:33,680
I mean, I like him, but not everybody gets the metal either.

955
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,980
You know, I don't have any. Broke. How many do we order?

956
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,160
All right, Mariana. I'm sorry?

957
01:09:43,820 --> 01:09:49,570
1100. Hey, that was on my original cut list and then somebody said

958
01:09:50,330 --> 01:09:59,210
and no. No, it wasn't me. And, and the thing is, you know, you can sell them. We could sell them.

959
01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:03,830
Maybe that's what we ought to do. Yeah, and to cover our cost.

960
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:09,570
Well, maybe so. Yeah, because people do sell them. How much does the middle cost and it just depends on what we get?

961
01:10:09,790 --> 01:10:14,410
So some we've gotten pretty creative over the last few years. So some of them are really on the nicer side

962
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:19,730
You just divide like if you did 1100 just divide the 1100 by the 9000 that'll tell you how much they cost

963
01:10:19,730 --> 01:10:24,350
I mean we could do that. There's a lot of people that sell their men. 20 dollars. I really do. Yeah

964
01:10:24,350 --> 01:10:26,050
I mean and I brought that up in the past

965
01:10:26,050 --> 01:10:30,270
We've asked and the council has not wanted us to sell them in the past

966
01:10:30,270 --> 01:10:35,770
So it's up to y'all I mean if we order them we can you can leave them in there and we can sell them and see how that does

967
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:42,090
We have to try it. I think maybe for next year. What do y'all think? I think we should do two things one

968
01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:47,510
We should simplify the metals so they're not quite as complex and expensive to minimize the cost

969
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:49,450
but then also to

970
01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:53,610
To charge for them even if it's not the entire cost

971
01:10:53,610 --> 01:10:56,930
You know $5 a medal or you know whatever

972
01:10:56,930 --> 01:11:04,370
ever just so that we're kind of saving a little bit of money there from the expense.

973
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:09,190
I think it's definitely an item that is Betty's got a heartburn over there.

974
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:09,710
Go ahead.

975
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:10,970
I mean, it's how you win.

976
01:11:10,990 --> 01:11:11,530
I can't start.

977
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:12,950
I can't start.

978
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:13,290
I can't run a lot.

979
01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:13,730
I'm sorry.

980
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:17,810
Y'all are going to leave here and then I'm going to get the emails from you after you leave

981
01:11:17,810 --> 01:11:22,090
here saying, I want to reconsider the Fiesta medals because there's people at home that are

982
01:11:22,090 --> 01:11:23,930
like, no, absolutely not.

983
01:11:24,690 --> 01:11:25,590
So I already know.

984
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:29,390
We are going to leave here and I'm going to get at least two emails saying to leave the

985
01:11:29,390 --> 01:11:29,610
V.S.

986
01:11:29,710 --> 01:11:30,230
The metals in.

987
01:11:30,610 --> 01:11:33,510
But, let me hear from Councillor Hyle, please.

988
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:34,930
Where are we going to sell these metals?

989
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:39,530
We just sell them at the cash register so we'll just tell them to come to City Hall and pick

990
01:11:39,530 --> 01:11:41,430
them up and they just buy them here at City Hall.

991
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:44,210
So we're not going to go door to door like Girl Scout cookies.

992
01:11:45,630 --> 01:11:45,950
No.

993
01:11:46,810 --> 01:11:47,110
No.

994
01:11:47,550 --> 01:11:48,390
How about...

995
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:49,550
Can we do it at the library?

996
01:11:50,210 --> 01:11:50,530
No.

997
01:11:50,830 --> 01:11:50,910
No.

998
01:11:51,210 --> 01:11:51,510
Uh-oh.

999
01:11:52,030 --> 01:11:52,270
No.

1000
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:53,430
Don't add water.

1001
01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:53,870
Thank you.

1002
01:11:53,870 --> 01:11:58,770
Regina's list. Okay. I know we need a cashier and all that other stuff.

1003
01:11:58,890 --> 01:12:03,530
Yes. Once I start selling them, I got to keep track of how many to make sure none went out for free. That could be.

1004
01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:08,950
Okay. Is there anyone that wants to keep them and give them away for free?

1005
01:12:10,190 --> 01:12:13,930
For next year. I'm comfortable with cutting it. I think if we try to sell it,

1006
01:12:13,930 --> 01:12:21,650
it's just going to create more work for our staff. And again, unfunded mandate in another way.

1007
01:12:22,710 --> 01:12:26,070
That's just my because now somebody's got to keep track of the inventory.

1008
01:12:26,110 --> 01:12:29,070
Yeah, somebody's got to reconcile like all of that.

1009
01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:32,050
Is it really worth the time for our staff?

1010
01:12:32,290 --> 01:12:38,950
They're overburdened possibly today, cutting the court dates and all because that's right.

1011
01:12:39,070 --> 01:12:40,130
That's where they're going to pay them.

1012
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:47,290
So I don't, you know, I hate to ask for more, you know, so for me, for me, that's, I have

1013
01:12:47,290 --> 01:12:47,750
no problem.

1014
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:51,190
I mean, I brought it up in the initial round of cuts and I didn't.

1015
01:12:51,190 --> 01:12:55,350
So, I mean, I can live with doing away with them completely.

1016
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:56,970
How about you, Councilor Roscoe?

1017
01:12:57,330 --> 01:12:59,990
I have mixed emotions on that, because people,

1018
01:12:59,990 --> 01:13:01,990
we haven't before we put them out, they're asking for them.

1019
01:13:02,090 --> 01:13:04,330
They're asking for them, our citizens are asking for them.

1020
01:13:05,290 --> 01:13:07,890
But only 1,100 chosen ones get them.

1021
01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:10,490
I know that we're very tight this year,

1022
01:13:11,130 --> 01:13:15,050
and I can live with the fact that not do it this coming year,

1023
01:13:15,190 --> 01:13:16,790
but once we get our feet together,

1024
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:17,790
maybe we can bring it back.

1025
01:13:18,670 --> 01:13:19,470
OK, I agree.

1026
01:13:19,890 --> 01:13:20,190
I agree.

1027
01:13:20,190 --> 01:13:32,770
Okay. So cut it and maybe look at it for bringing it back the following year. Okay. All right. Very good. We just gave you $9,000. Thank you. And the police got it and they put it in the veterans memorial.

1028
01:13:34,090 --> 01:13:45,450
Put it in the what? The veterans memorial. Oh, yeah. Well, that's in the budget. I saw it for 14,000. I cut it from 24. It was a resounding decrease. Keep it, but decrease the amount.

1029
01:13:45,450 --> 01:13:52,310
But I thought the gentleman who presented it to the council said he could do it for 5,000.

1030
01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:52,650
I don't know.

1031
01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:52,950
You can't.

1032
01:13:53,070 --> 01:13:53,190
Okay.

1033
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:54,050
Not what he's requesting.

1034
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:54,550
All right.

1035
01:13:54,970 --> 01:13:55,450
Just thought.

1036
01:13:56,350 --> 01:13:57,370
Just had to ask.

1037
01:13:57,550 --> 01:13:58,930
What did you bring it down to?

1038
01:13:59,530 --> 01:13:59,890
14.

1039
01:14:00,490 --> 01:14:00,810
14.

1040
01:14:01,110 --> 01:14:01,190
Okay.

1041
01:14:01,350 --> 01:14:02,430
We can probably get it done.

1042
01:14:02,810 --> 01:14:07,670
What he's requesting is, so we just got a quote for a monument because we had a monument that was destroyed.

1043
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:10,250
It was, it was the old school.

1044
01:14:10,410 --> 01:14:13,310
Anyway, they ended up the bank ended up putting it back up and paying for it.

1045
01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:14,790
but that original quote was 8800.

1046
01:14:15,070 --> 01:14:17,210
And it's exactly the exact same thing

1047
01:14:17,210 --> 01:14:20,390
that Daniel's requesting, I mean.

1048
01:14:21,630 --> 01:14:25,470
So 8800, but that was just putting it back

1049
01:14:25,470 --> 01:14:26,610
to get the supplies were there,

1050
01:14:26,690 --> 01:14:28,450
the plaque was there, a car hit it

1051
01:14:28,450 --> 01:14:30,570
so they just had to reconstruct it with 8800.

1052
01:14:31,070 --> 01:14:34,010
So I'm assuming to buy all the materials

1053
01:14:34,010 --> 01:14:35,810
and the plaque, I mean it's a good estimation

1054
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:36,930
so I put in 14.

1055
01:14:37,850 --> 01:14:39,910
Okay, I was at the American Legion yesterday

1056
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:47,530
And I brought it up saying that we had so much money allocated and I told them it was 12,000 and I know it was 14.

1057
01:14:48,190 --> 01:14:50,690
I mean we can bring it down to 12 and see what kind of quotes we get.

1058
01:14:50,890 --> 01:14:59,970
One of the things that was expressed to me there is that you know cutting it in half, it's more than just...

1059
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,440
A memorial is something that veterans, when they went into the military, they didn't go in half

1060
01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:12,560
way. They gave themselves all of it into the Army and some of them gave everything, including

1061
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:19,400
their lives for it. And a lot of them were Leon Valley veterans. And we wanted to make

1062
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:27,940
sure, as the American Legion, they were there that we gave something that is something significant

1063
01:15:28,580 --> 01:15:31,220
to honor the people that gave their lives.

1064
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,420
A bridge and a street.

1065
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,360
I mean, that's pretty good, but, you know,

1066
01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:37,180
the bridge you go through it, it's hard to,

1067
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:38,420
you can't stop and look at it.

1068
01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:40,700
I mean, I like the bridge, don't get me wrong.

1069
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:42,280
I thought there was a cool idea,

1070
01:15:43,020 --> 01:15:46,640
but something significant, and bringing it down half,

1071
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,280
I know we're trying to save money, but they didn't.

1072
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:54,530
So is the American Legion willing to?

1073
01:15:54,530 --> 01:15:56,850
They didn't save anything when they gave their lives up.

1074
01:15:56,850 --> 01:16:01,010
So is the American Legion willing to give money towards the monument? I guess there's my question if they're so

1075
01:16:01,010 --> 01:16:10,230
Yeah, I mean, if they're so passionate about it. Well, and don't they get money from bingo still? Well, they I mean, I think they I'm not gonna say how much money they got yesterday

1076
01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:14,650
But yeah, but I'll ask him again. I know that they're trying to get their

1077
01:16:15,810 --> 01:16:20,630
Stand up again. They lost money during COVID and I'll ask him again

1078
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:26,630
And if I can get contribution, we can match that and have a really decent memorial for that.

1079
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:29,990
Yeah, so the one Daniel presented is just a monument with a plaque on it.

1080
01:16:30,170 --> 01:16:35,390
It's very similar to the one that's at RBFCU right here at the corner at Grissom.

1081
01:16:35,530 --> 01:16:37,690
It's dedication to the first school.

1082
01:16:38,170 --> 01:16:40,510
So that's the one Daniel's basically requesting.

1083
01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:44,990
It's that one monument with the plaque with the dedicated brand, all the dedicated branches

1084
01:16:44,990 --> 01:16:46,590
with a little stain in the middle.

1085
01:16:46,590 --> 01:16:49,610
and so that's the one I'm estimating,

1086
01:16:49,810 --> 01:16:54,110
but the $24,000 one was like the concrete benches

1087
01:16:54,110 --> 01:16:56,710
with the monument, and so that's the price we got

1088
01:16:56,710 --> 01:16:58,490
for that one.

1089
01:16:58,590 --> 01:17:00,910
So if that's what you're wanting, that's $24,000.

1090
01:17:01,050 --> 01:17:03,370
I still have the paperwork that you gave us

1091
01:17:03,370 --> 01:17:04,730
when we did that presentation.

1092
01:17:05,290 --> 01:17:06,850
I can bring it back up to council,

1093
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:10,610
and if they let you go with it,

1094
01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:13,970
then I know we got new council members

1095
01:17:14,350 --> 01:17:16,170
that give them an opportunity to look

1096
01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:18,770
that's what we saw and see what we can go from there.

1097
01:17:19,330 --> 01:17:20,650
I know we got to August.

1098
01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:22,970
Right, so I mean, it went to the park commission

1099
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:24,150
and park commission said no.

1100
01:17:24,530 --> 01:17:26,670
So do you want it to go back through that process again?

1101
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:28,590
Like, do you want it to go back to the park commission

1102
01:17:28,590 --> 01:17:29,670
then back to the council?

1103
01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:30,830
I'm just curious, like.

1104
01:17:31,290 --> 01:17:33,230
No, I want you to let me talk to my colleagues.

1105
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:34,310
Okay, you can't.

1106
01:17:34,330 --> 01:17:36,190
Let me show them what you can't talk to your colleagues.

1107
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:39,010
Why don't I give you to you so you can talk to our colleagues?

1108
01:17:39,210 --> 01:17:39,890
Yes, we can do it.

1109
01:17:40,150 --> 01:17:41,810
You can talk to one colleague.

1110
01:17:41,810 --> 01:17:44,810
I know what we did and then we'll discuss it.

1111
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:48,930
I mean, that's part of having this open conversation.

1112
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:51,510
I mean, there's not supposed to be open conversation.

1113
01:17:51,790 --> 01:17:55,410
And all of your colleagues at 24,000 were okay

1114
01:17:55,410 --> 01:17:57,570
with doing a monument that I spoke with,

1115
01:17:57,710 --> 01:17:59,070
but with a reduced amount.

1116
01:17:59,690 --> 01:18:02,350
And so 5,000 did come up in that.

1117
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:05,550
If you want to have a whole other presentation on that,

1118
01:18:05,630 --> 01:18:09,490
we can certainly do a presentation just on the stuff

1119
01:18:09,490 --> 01:18:10,730
that's been presented in the past.

1120
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:11,830
We can certainly do that.

1121
01:18:11,950 --> 01:18:14,130
You can get a second and put that back on the agenda

1122
01:18:14,130 --> 01:18:19,970
for the 15th that can definitely be a conversation. So I just need to know what that dollar amount needs

1123
01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:21,490
to be in this budget year.

1124
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:28,830
Yes councilor compass. So just for clarification for members of our audience

1125
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:34,290
and those who are watching us. So the amount that we're talking about in the veterans memorial

1126
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:43,430
monument is really coming out of our capital fund. Not in our operating deficit of 350,000 dollars

1127
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:44,430
that we're talking about.

1128
01:18:44,710 --> 01:18:47,490
So just to provide some clear.

1129
01:18:47,790 --> 01:18:49,510
And it comes out of the reserve.

1130
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:50,050
Right.

1131
01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:52,510
So it reduces the reserve amount.

1132
01:18:52,690 --> 01:18:54,530
And so when we're talking about dedicated,

1133
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:56,930
like we just, we got off that boat, right?

1134
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:59,210
So we were talking about dedicating money

1135
01:18:59,210 --> 01:19:00,310
for your future ambulance.

1136
01:19:00,650 --> 01:19:02,530
So that 5 million gets reduced, right?

1137
01:19:02,730 --> 01:19:04,970
And then you're talking about possibly painting

1138
01:19:04,970 --> 01:19:07,190
these buildings and doing a building assessment.

1139
01:19:07,250 --> 01:19:08,410
That's X amount.

1140
01:19:08,810 --> 01:19:11,290
You also, I've sent you all the quote for the silos

1141
01:19:11,290 --> 01:19:12,510
has to be engineered at that.

1142
01:19:12,510 --> 01:19:31,810
So all of those have to be put into at some point designated funds or your future capital planning and so just know that 5 million as we are speaking that number is dwindling because you do have things maybe not put in paper that you have officially assigned it to but you have need future needs that are coming up.

1143
01:19:31,810 --> 01:19:39,230
And so I don't want I mean you do you sometimes will be like you do a lot of budget adjustments throughout the year

1144
01:19:39,230 --> 01:19:43,970
And I'm just gonna because it's the first one on my mind like homelessness like that was 40,000 that can at the end of the year

1145
01:19:43,970 --> 01:19:47,130
You're like oh because they all add up eventually at the end of the year

1146
01:19:47,130 --> 01:19:54,390
So I just I like to have it budgeted so you know what your reserve is actually is versus doing budget adjustments throughout the year

1147
01:19:54,390 --> 01:20:01,310
And so if you want to have the conversation about increasing the amount from 14,000 back to 24,000

1148
01:20:01,310 --> 01:20:03,630
and you want a special conversation.

1149
01:20:04,150 --> 01:20:06,370
It's on my retreat for July 1st,

1150
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:09,230
so I can give them the presentation on July 1st.

1151
01:20:10,230 --> 01:20:11,330
That's something you want to do.

1152
01:20:11,690 --> 01:20:11,810
Yeah.

1153
01:20:12,510 --> 01:20:15,130
And then y'all will see what we've seen.

1154
01:20:15,390 --> 01:20:16,210
And that's a lot better.

1155
01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:19,650
I was gonna suggest just to make you have way

1156
01:20:19,650 --> 01:20:22,350
and do it to 20,000, but yeah.

1157
01:20:22,810 --> 01:20:23,650
How do we present it?

1158
01:20:23,650 --> 01:20:24,910
Half way of 24,000.

1159
01:20:24,910 --> 01:20:25,590
Yeah, y'all.

1160
01:20:25,630 --> 01:20:25,830
Yeah.

1161
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:27,450
I didn't do good in math.

1162
01:20:27,970 --> 01:20:30,250
No, not good math there, Mr. Arasca.

1163
01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:34,530
No, no, no, but we can talk about it at the July 1st meeting and then you can all can come up with the number

1164
01:20:34,530 --> 01:20:38,810
I just need to know what number y'all would like me to add, but I did remove this. I mean we're not on the

1165
01:20:39,290 --> 01:20:42,830
Councilor Marsh. I would appreciate that just to get the background and

1166
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:51,010
Because to me, I think we're just from what I've heard today. We're comparing it to one estimate one vision

1167
01:20:51,010 --> 01:20:55,110
It doesn't mean that a $14,000 monument wouldn't be wonderful

1168
01:20:55,110 --> 01:21:01,650
So, I think we have to kind of recalibrate to say, what is it that we need to represent

1169
01:21:01,650 --> 01:21:07,570
in this monument or whatever, and it may not need benches or whatever, but that's kind

1170
01:21:07,570 --> 01:21:11,050
of the first thing that was talked about, so that's the standard now, so.

1171
01:21:11,250 --> 01:21:15,850
Yeah, well, there's just been a lot of discussions, because this has been over several, a

1172
01:21:15,850 --> 01:21:16,650
price three years.

1173
01:21:16,890 --> 01:21:17,110
Yeah.

1174
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:22,470
They talked about using the librarians and making that a whole monument area, I mean, there's

1175
01:21:22,470 --> 01:21:24,430
been different variations of, I mean, huge monument.

1176
01:21:24,430 --> 01:21:29,210
I mean, we've had different variations and a bunch of them have gone to the park commission and the park commission just said

1177
01:21:29,210 --> 01:21:34,990
Like we you know, they love the military, but they just weren't interested in adding additional

1178
01:21:35,730 --> 01:21:40,090
I didn't and I believe counselor Hyall had a comment nothing we're deciding today

1179
01:21:40,090 --> 01:21:46,310
But there was a lot of talk where we were putting this so that would depend on what size monument you want

1180
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:51,870
You don't want something this big no, no, the monument size would be it we do it at veterans. It's called veterans park

1181
01:21:51,870 --> 01:21:56,970
you could put the monument there so you could do a I mean you have a lot of land

1182
01:21:56,970 --> 01:22:02,330
that was with the park commission was like didn't want this big old elaborate

1183
01:22:02,330 --> 01:22:07,030
thing and so then we went smaller with just the again the best example I can

1184
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:12,350
give you is the RBFC you monument sign is the best to kind of visual I can

1185
01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:17,850
give you of what the very big at all yeah is requesting yeah okay

1186
01:22:17,850 --> 01:22:18,650
Councillor Compos.

1187
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:27,290
Just one closing comment for me is can we also understand the objections from the Park

1188
01:22:27,290 --> 01:22:27,810
Commission?

1189
01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:30,210
I did read them.

1190
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:31,150
She can talk to that.

1191
01:22:31,310 --> 01:22:31,610
Okay.

1192
01:22:32,090 --> 01:22:32,230
Yeah.

1193
01:22:33,550 --> 01:22:37,450
They wanted to leave that area as an open green space and didn't want anything.

1194
01:22:38,530 --> 01:22:38,690
Right.

1195
01:22:40,050 --> 01:22:42,390
We have Veterans Way.

1196
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:50,990
We had Evers Road being designated as Audimil Murphy Parkway and plus we had the bridge and they were like we don't we don't think you need it

1197
01:22:50,990 --> 01:23:01,410
We think that is open space it gets used by the library. It's used by us for a holiday lighting ceremony. It gets used and in that discussion

1198
01:23:02,350 --> 01:23:03,430
did they know

1199
01:23:04,450 --> 01:23:04,930
the

1200
01:23:04,930 --> 01:23:08,550
the contemplated size of the monument.

1201
01:23:09,010 --> 01:23:09,210
Yes.

1202
01:23:09,410 --> 01:23:09,590
Oh yeah.

1203
01:23:09,710 --> 01:23:10,990
It's a request by Daniel Rodriguez.

1204
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:12,610
He had brought a mock-up.

1205
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:13,190
Mm-hmm.

1206
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:13,550
Okay.

1207
01:23:13,890 --> 01:23:15,530
And they got like three options.

1208
01:23:18,110 --> 01:23:18,330
Yeah.

1209
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:22,460
Okay.

1210
01:23:22,660 --> 01:23:24,320
So we'll hear more on July 1st.

1211
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:24,960
Okay.

1212
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:25,840
Thank you very much.

1213
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,220
You're welcome.

1214
01:23:26,540 --> 01:23:26,820
Thank you.

1215
01:23:27,060 --> 01:23:30,040
So this is your coded animal control expenditure listing.

1216
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:31,660
Again, this is a new department.

1217
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:38,460
I'm trying to get to the penny on everything and how much you spend in IT, how much you spend

1218
01:23:38,460 --> 01:23:44,740
in animal and in co-compliance and occasionally there's grant funding and I'm kind of

1219
01:23:44,740 --> 01:23:48,740
hoping pulling this out could help us land some grants here and there.

1220
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,480
And so not big grants but some.

1221
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:58,420
And so this is just the cost for next year and again this is a little bit of a shot in

1222
01:23:58,420 --> 01:23:58,700
the dark.

1223
01:23:58,700 --> 01:23:59,920
We did a lot of estimations.

1224
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:03,860
It was grouped in your police department and they were just paying for their stuff out

1225
01:24:03,860 --> 01:24:04,780
of operating really.

1226
01:24:05,380 --> 01:24:06,440
And so we've breaking it down.

1227
01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:09,300
You had 20,000 for animal boarding another place,

1228
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:10,600
but you reduced it to five.

1229
01:24:10,860 --> 01:24:11,560
And what was that?

1230
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,880
Yes, we were using the current kennel under there.

1231
01:24:14,180 --> 01:24:15,240
We bought kennels last year.

1232
01:24:15,460 --> 01:24:16,680
So we didn't have kennels before.

1233
01:24:17,260 --> 01:24:18,880
So now you have kennels that have AC

1234
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:19,680
that are over there.

1235
01:24:19,860 --> 01:24:21,640
Public works just laid another slab

1236
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:22,860
for a little bit larger dogs.

1237
01:24:23,700 --> 01:24:26,700
And so that will eventually have an AC in it as well

1238
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:27,440
if it doesn't already.

1239
01:24:29,020 --> 01:24:33,240
And we're using SA pets alive, Austin pets alive

1240
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,240
and pet land.

1241
01:24:34,620 --> 01:24:35,620
And pet land, that's right.

1242
01:24:35,620 --> 01:24:40,380
It's yeah, okay, so we'll read those are additional correct, but they're not arrested here

1243
01:24:40,380 --> 01:24:44,100
We're using and so we still need boarding for overflow

1244
01:24:44,860 --> 01:24:46,700
To go to pause ranch or whoever

1245
01:24:47,580 --> 01:24:53,240
Boarding facility we need, okay, all right very good any other questions all right. Thank you

1246
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,040
Special events

1247
01:24:55,040 --> 01:25:00,860
So this is just the remainder of the code stuff and then people freaked out over the animal youth in Asia

1248
01:25:00,860 --> 01:25:02,200
This is when animals are hurt

1249
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,560
We try not to euthanize, but we also aren't going to spend thousands of dollars in vet bills

1250
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:12,620
But I know people will catch that and be like, oh my god, you're killing dogs. Well, no, it's when they're injured to the capacity of

1251
01:25:13,620 --> 01:25:16,400
Or a vicious dog of some sort that we have to put down

1252
01:25:21,820 --> 01:25:25,220
Okay, special events. Okay, so we talked about overtime yesterday

1253
01:25:25,220 --> 01:25:27,300
So you want to address that? Yeah

1254
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:28,720
I did touch your overtime

1255
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,120
the 10,000s, then I cover your overtime for Christmas tree lighting and

1256
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:36,740
earth wise. The other thing we need to talk about a little bit is if we're

1257
01:25:36,740 --> 01:25:40,900
cutting fourth of July, we're not going to help with the 5K run. So that's just,

1258
01:25:41,180 --> 01:25:46,140
you know, but that also comes in determination as well as all your extra

1259
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:50,060
veteran stuff that y'all waved. So we do the 9-11 event and we do the flag-

1260
01:25:50,060 --> 01:25:55,040
burning event. And the flag- burning event this year kind of got by me. It was

1261
01:25:55,040 --> 01:26:00,160
miscommunication among staff, I normally make them move it during regular hours on a work day.

1262
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,640
So they're not paying over. So we're trying not to pay over. I still have to pay a little bit of

1263
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:11,700
overtime, but not as much as having it on a Saturday afternoon. So you had to pay for two extra

1264
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:16,680
public works people. We had to pay for extra fire staff to be out there. And so that typically would

1265
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:22,920
not happen during a Saturday. And so all of those, but you waive all of their fees for everything,

1266
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:51,580
for 9-11 of the staff has to clean up and set up because they can't set up the tables themselves, they can't clean up and so and I have to have staff available for that event. So all those extra things that you don't see that we don't budget for that y'all just vote throughout the year as a practice, I need to make sure that y'all are aware that y'all are going to have to do budget adjustments associated with those in kind grants as they come up through the year, if that's something you're choosing to do.

1267
01:26:51,580 --> 01:26:57,600
Um, so putting you all on the right as far as the fourth of July for the historical

1268
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,120
society.

1269
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:03,820
I think we have for discussion on July 1st, a joint meeting and I'd like to have that

1270
01:27:03,820 --> 01:27:05,760
joint meeting before we make that decision.

1271
01:27:05,900 --> 01:27:07,420
They would just have to pay for their own secure.

1272
01:27:07,480 --> 01:27:08,440
It's not that we can't do it.

1273
01:27:08,460 --> 01:27:09,300
They just have to pay for security.

1274
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:09,840
Yeah.

1275
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,320
They don't know that they don't have the cost.

1276
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,960
I mean, I just have a dialogue with them because we do have a MOU with them.

1277
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:16,700
So we are.

1278
01:27:17,060 --> 01:27:17,380
Yeah.

1279
01:27:17,740 --> 01:27:18,140
Absolutely.

1280
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:21,900
But I wanted to bring that up because it's we see fourth of July

1281
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:28,340
We don't think about the other small events that kind of coincide with that and so but I so on the record

1282
01:27:28,340 --> 01:27:34,060
If you're canceling the for either that you've got a budget money for it. Yeah, that's right

1283
01:27:34,060 --> 01:27:37,780
So yeah, and if you could have the cost of that

1284
01:27:37,780 --> 01:27:40,360
How much it would be for that?

1285
01:27:42,620 --> 01:27:43,600
Anyone else?

1286
01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:45,800
Yes, Councillor Compos.

1287
01:27:46,660 --> 01:27:53,220
By cutting to 4th of July, can you tell us what the total cost we've saved by doing

1288
01:27:53,220 --> 01:27:53,440
that?

1289
01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:58,880
I think it would be helpful for everyone to understand that because it was the 100,000

1290
01:27:58,880 --> 01:27:59,460
that we have.

1291
01:27:59,700 --> 01:28:05,260
It was 100,000 here, 50,000 in economic development and 30,000 from your personnel.

1292
01:28:05,860 --> 01:28:07,300
So it's 180,000.

1293
01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:10,180
You're saving by not doing the 4th of July.

1294
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,000
Thank you.

1295
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,280
Yeah, I'm going to have to go to Woodlawn Lake.

1296
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,140
Hello, or hello to Sir, whatever.

1297
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:20,840
Hope you have a second.

1298
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:21,140
Yeah.

1299
01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:22,600
You can go.

1300
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:27,180
Like, if you sit at the rim, I know when I'm leaving the 4th of July on my way home, people

1301
01:28:27,180 --> 01:28:32,060
are parked at the rim just to watch the V.S. detects this firework station.

1302
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,760
So we did cut all the events, leaving Christmas tree lighting and Earth Boy's living.

1303
01:28:38,140 --> 01:28:38,440
Again.

1304
01:28:38,440 --> 01:28:43,840
Then I left the overtime for public works because they have to set up and break down and

1305
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,100
police are there that day.

1306
01:28:45,220 --> 01:28:52,740
We try to use reserve officers but that $10,000 would cover the earth-wise living day event

1307
01:28:52,740 --> 01:28:53,800
and Christmas tree lighting.

1308
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,420
So there you go.

1309
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:03,860
And this one we also cut just so it's noted volunteer appreciation dinner but we also cut

1310
01:29:03,860 --> 01:29:05,880
the employee holiday lunch in that we do.

1311
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,420
We cut all the movies in park.

1312
01:29:08,420 --> 01:29:12,660
And so was the advertising connected to primarily the 4th of July?

1313
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,400
Yeah, so it's your postcards that we would send out.

1314
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,520
Okay, all that stuff.

1315
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:16,760
Yeah,

1316
01:29:18,820 --> 01:29:22,620
your parks and rec people asked about the personnel that just lives

1317
01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:23,920
in the public works department.

1318
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,600
We just leave them all grouped over there.

1319
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,800
So let's go to the breakdown.

1320
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,600
You can see there's no additional increases.

1321
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:35,500
I sliced their budget.

1322
01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:38,260
This was the one that took the biggest hit.

1323
01:29:38,260 --> 01:29:43,880
it, we kept everything pretty much the same with no increases or took it out completely.

1324
01:29:45,260 --> 01:29:51,060
This also has like your increases and you're not increases, I'm sorry, your stuff or

1325
01:29:51,060 --> 01:29:56,100
your park maintenance, your fields, your nets, but if any was wrong, we call it a mo and

1326
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:56,500
go city.

1327
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,780
So if something made your breaks, it would just be pulled out and not replaced.

1328
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,400
Unless the council wants to replace it, we'd come back for a budget adjustment. But for right now, that's how we'll operate just maintaining what we currently have.

1329
01:30:09,820 --> 01:30:28,200
Yes, Councillor Marche. So is the pool maintenance cut because the pool is cut or where are you at? I'm sorry, pool maintenance under operating supplies. 6,800, 800. Oh, yeah, because I just have it under contractual, I think. Of course. There's that repairs and maintenance.

1330
01:30:30,450 --> 01:30:31,110
Here it is.

1331
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:36,390
your pool contract at 108 and your pool repairs at 75,000.

1332
01:30:36,810 --> 01:30:37,950
Okay, so it's just moved.

1333
01:30:38,630 --> 01:30:38,770
Okay.

1334
01:30:41,010 --> 01:30:43,250
Yes, Councillor Compos.

1335
01:30:44,030 --> 01:30:51,510
So, in our individual discussions, so first of all, this assumes that we keep the pool open.

1336
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:52,250
Correct?

1337
01:30:52,350 --> 01:30:53,530
Yes, I mean, if you want to keep the pool open.

1338
01:30:53,530 --> 01:30:54,810
That's first and foremost.

1339
01:30:55,190 --> 01:30:55,290
Okay.

1340
01:30:55,290 --> 01:31:02,170
But I thought we had talked about that the pool repairs, which would be the replastering

1341
01:31:02,170 --> 01:31:07,390
of this in this number, it's 75,000, that that could be considered as a capital.

1342
01:31:07,610 --> 01:31:08,450
It can be considered as a capital.

1343
01:31:08,450 --> 01:31:12,530
And I would encourage us to consider moving that.

1344
01:31:13,130 --> 01:31:14,430
That's a topic of conversation.

1345
01:31:14,590 --> 01:31:15,330
I just wasn't there yet.

1346
01:31:15,630 --> 01:31:16,830
So move that over.

1347
01:31:17,330 --> 01:31:18,730
To see I tried to beat the buzzer.

1348
01:31:18,990 --> 01:31:20,510
They said, well, you didn't react.

1349
01:31:20,830 --> 01:31:22,210
I'm trying to react right now.

1350
01:31:22,510 --> 01:31:24,690
He ran up the pool but I was on this slide.

1351
01:31:24,690 --> 01:31:31,590
No, it's there. So it is one of the items that can move to capital. It's one of those that are that is still that's still up there

1352
01:31:31,590 --> 01:31:35,930
That can definitely be moved to cap as a capital item. Tell me your reasoning why you want to do that

1353
01:31:35,930 --> 01:31:41,210
Well, if we're keeping if we all agree to keep this pool open the plastering

1354
01:31:41,210 --> 01:31:44,050
I believe qualifies for a capital

1355
01:31:45,070 --> 01:31:45,870
expenditure and

1356
01:31:45,870 --> 01:31:52,050
And the increase is this $350,000 by that $75,000.

1357
01:31:52,150 --> 01:31:53,390
That's what we're trying to do.

1358
01:31:53,410 --> 01:31:55,710
But it also decreases your reserve funds.

1359
01:31:55,910 --> 01:31:58,850
So it does the reserve fund balance was there for

1360
01:31:58,850 --> 01:32:02,290
the maintenance and capital items, and that's what it's.

1361
01:32:02,370 --> 01:32:03,110
Yeah, absolutely.

1362
01:32:03,550 --> 01:32:06,690
And so this can be moved, but we were having the conversation.

1363
01:32:07,130 --> 01:32:09,890
Again, in our previous conversations, we were talking about

1364
01:32:09,890 --> 01:32:12,070
quality of life and whether or not we were going to.

1365
01:32:12,090 --> 01:32:14,450
So I haven't moved that around at all because we,

1366
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:25,090
I mean, we haven't decided what we were going to do, whether keep the pull in and keep it out, but as I met with you all individually, it seemed that that was an overwhelmingly something that everybody wanted to do was keep the pull in.

1367
01:32:25,650 --> 01:32:31,130
So that's the conversation I was going to have this evening, that everybody said that they would like to keep that one pull open.

1368
01:32:32,950 --> 01:32:40,990
And at some point when we get to the capital part of this and we talk about the dog park, we can have that conversation next, but this could be moved over into your cabinet.

1369
01:32:40,990 --> 01:32:42,510
Okay. But yes, it would decrease your risk.

1370
01:32:42,750 --> 01:32:47,370
Is there anyone that disagrees that it should not be moved

1371
01:32:47,370 --> 01:32:48,410
to contractual?

1372
01:32:49,390 --> 01:32:50,210
Nobody agree?

1373
01:32:51,130 --> 01:32:52,170
So I contract capital.

1374
01:32:52,250 --> 01:32:54,130
A capital. I'm at capital. I knew that.

1375
01:32:55,270 --> 01:32:56,130
Okay, capital.

1376
01:32:58,070 --> 01:33:00,930
I'm still slumber party hanging over over here.

1377
01:33:01,370 --> 01:33:03,090
So anyway, just still tired.

1378
01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:05,530
Okay. Sounds good.

1379
01:33:05,770 --> 01:33:09,550
So contractual, not contractual capital.

1380
01:33:09,550 --> 01:33:11,490
I'm sorry. I have it right here. I wrote it down.

1381
01:33:11,690 --> 01:33:13,790
Capital. C-A-P-I-T-A-L right there.

1382
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:15,370
So, yes.

1383
01:33:15,790 --> 01:33:18,630
But I just wanted to make sure that we were an open conversation.

1384
01:33:18,990 --> 01:33:20,770
Okay, so we've got to keep the pool.

1385
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:22,510
But if you're going to keep the pool,

1386
01:33:22,670 --> 01:33:23,530
you had to do the replacement.

1387
01:33:23,690 --> 01:33:24,090
Oh, you bet.

1388
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:25,690
It's important.

1389
01:33:25,770 --> 01:33:27,910
You also have other repairs that have to be done there.

1390
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:29,710
At some point, you have plumbing repairs and stuff

1391
01:33:29,710 --> 01:33:30,590
that have to be done.

1392
01:33:32,410 --> 01:33:33,050
Just FYI.

1393
01:33:34,090 --> 01:33:36,370
On top of the replasterings, that's what you're saying.

1394
01:33:36,810 --> 01:33:38,410
I mean, we're not budgeting for it this year.

1395
01:33:38,410 --> 01:33:43,230
but again it needs to be considered at some point.

1396
01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:50,730
Your parks and recreational capital, of course there's your hiking bike trail, the lawn

1397
01:33:50,730 --> 01:33:55,110
more, the mayor's around, everybody overwhelmingly this year said keep the mayor's around, so

1398
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:56,550
we're finally going to get anywhere around.

1399
01:33:58,090 --> 01:34:02,850
There's the veterans park monument as we discussed we'll talk about that the retreat and then

1400
01:34:02,850 --> 01:34:03,710
the dog park.

1401
01:34:03,710 --> 01:34:13,170
So you have I'll care what is it 20,000 so you have 20,000 of that 49,000 as dedicated dog park funds.

1402
01:34:13,330 --> 01:34:20,410
I know there's been some conversation from the general public to Samir and that he's okay with moving that money to something else.

1403
01:34:20,630 --> 01:34:28,630
But we can also just leave it alone for now and take out the 49,000 since you're moving the 75,000 in there.

1404
01:34:28,910 --> 01:34:31,790
I mean, well I didn't think we made a decision.

1405
01:34:31,790 --> 01:34:39,010
I thought we wanted to wait, you know, I mean you haven't made a decision, but I put it in there because we have to have the conversation, so I mean

1406
01:34:39,010 --> 01:34:45,990
I know for next year if you just want to fill in the pool and just leave it as a green space until, well, I know we talked about doing a

1407
01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:53,350
Survey of the people around the area first, you know, it's also a retreat item. I think so you can wait to them as well

1408
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:57,730
You don't want to read wait till the retreat on that one on the dog park

1409
01:34:57,730 --> 01:35:04,750
I'll tell you I'm neutral. It doesn't matter either way for me. It's not a priority of mine.

1410
01:35:05,370 --> 01:35:13,870
And if Samir is willing to allow the $20,000 to be moved, I would rather go to and we haven't discussed this.

1411
01:35:14,350 --> 01:35:17,950
But for computers for the library. That's for me.

1412
01:35:20,930 --> 01:35:24,030
So, and I agree with that. Yes, Councilor.

1413
01:35:24,250 --> 01:35:24,930
Yes, Councilor.

1414
01:35:25,250 --> 01:35:30,770
We can move that money to benefit the library or other departments.

1415
01:35:31,170 --> 01:35:31,790
I know what to do that.

1416
01:35:33,570 --> 01:35:40,250
Okay, so the question is, who's going to approach Mr. Samir?

1417
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:41,190
I can call him. I can call him.

1418
01:35:41,190 --> 01:35:45,230
Okay, I mean, and the computer.

1419
01:35:45,230 --> 01:35:49,890
So I wouldn't I wouldn't do the computers. I would increase their actual line item

1420
01:35:49,890 --> 01:35:55,950
So I cut their light item from 30,000 to 21,000 and Regina would agree with me that she needs more

1421
01:35:55,950 --> 01:36:02,970
Materials than she does the compute. So that 20 would just go to more materials for and not to towards the dog park

1422
01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:05,350
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, I'll reach out. What do you all think?

1423
01:36:06,370 --> 01:36:12,990
Okay, all right, so but we have to get his permission because she said it was in writing that he was gonna give it to a dog park

1424
01:36:12,990 --> 01:36:17,730
contract amendment from him, okay, and then we can just yeah, okay, but let me reach out to him first to get you

1425
01:36:17,730 --> 01:36:23,330
I'll see if he's interested in doing that. All right, and if he is then I will put together a contract amendment for him

1426
01:36:23,330 --> 01:36:27,050
And because it's under 50,000, we don't have to bring it to council

1427
01:36:27,050 --> 01:36:30,430
But if y'all are in agreement with that, I can certainly work that up with him

1428
01:36:31,110 --> 01:36:38,410
I may bring it up anyway with the move to move to the library for additional materials. Is that correct?

1429
01:36:38,410 --> 01:36:39,130
Correct. Okay.

1430
01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:47,490
Okay. All the other directors are super jealous right now.

1431
01:36:48,010 --> 01:36:54,430
Anyway. She won the Maytag award. Okay. So there's a lot.

1432
01:36:54,450 --> 01:37:01,390
So then that would free up 29,000. Right? Yeah. Yes.

1433
01:37:01,550 --> 01:37:04,510
Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. And then you're going to put the 75,000 over there.

1434
01:37:04,730 --> 01:37:08,310
Exactly. So that okay. And we'll just what I'm understanding.

1435
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:11,350
We're not going to do anything. We'll put the dog park on pause.

1436
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:17,050
then yeah correct you can talk about it on pause on pod yeah I'm just

1437
01:37:17,050 --> 01:37:21,570
teasing okay I did I but I want to mention you I've had two park surveys and

1438
01:37:21,570 --> 01:37:27,530
both park surveys has overwhelmingly requested a dog park so just just throwing

1439
01:37:27,530 --> 01:37:41,330
that out there okay well library expenditures and I have no dog I have no

1440
01:37:41,330 --> 01:37:46,190
So tell me where that additional 20,000 would that be in library supplies?

1441
01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:47,730
Yes, the under library material.

1442
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:49,410
I cut her budget.

1443
01:37:49,410 --> 01:37:51,130
She was requesting 31.

1444
01:37:52,150 --> 01:37:54,210
I cut her down to 20.

1445
01:37:54,730 --> 01:37:59,190
And then we just split the baby or split it among all the materials.

1446
01:37:59,350 --> 01:38:00,450
So she'll get her 31 back.

1447
01:38:00,610 --> 01:38:02,430
And I'll just increase, see all these decreased amounts.

1448
01:38:02,930 --> 01:38:05,470
It will increase back to those amounts on the side.

1449
01:38:06,910 --> 01:38:09,010
But she'll get the 20,000.

1450
01:38:09,010 --> 01:38:10,930
but it'll go in different areas.

1451
01:38:11,170 --> 01:38:12,450
She has 20,000.

1452
01:38:12,530 --> 01:38:14,610
This is the breakdown of the 20,000.

1453
01:38:15,210 --> 01:38:19,110
Y'all are going to give her the 20,000.

1454
01:38:19,410 --> 01:38:19,650
Correct.

1455
01:38:19,890 --> 01:38:22,170
So that would increase this by these amounts

1456
01:38:22,170 --> 01:38:25,170
or, and then she'll increase, you know, a little bit more.

1457
01:38:25,630 --> 01:38:28,770
So you could, we could do it to where we take 10,000 here

1458
01:38:28,770 --> 01:38:31,590
and then buy three computers instead of the six

1459
01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:32,450
that they're requesting.

1460
01:38:32,950 --> 01:38:33,590
Does that make sense?

1461
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:37,900
I'd like to hear from Regina.

1462
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:38,320
Yes.

1463
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:49,140
Could you ask Mr. Shahadi if it could just be an undesignated library donation and then we can use it with the additional computer.

1464
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:58,480
So he's giving a lot to the library already and so that's why I need to have the conversation with him.

1465
01:38:58,820 --> 01:39:06,040
So we can't speak like this is going to happen. He gives side donations to the library already quite a bit on the side to the library.

1466
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:12,820
So, I'm going to make the request on the $20,000, and then we would increase her amount

1467
01:39:12,820 --> 01:39:14,200
for her requested amount.

1468
01:39:14,580 --> 01:39:18,000
Whatever's remaining, then that's how many extra touch computers I will buy.

1469
01:39:18,140 --> 01:39:23,620
But it won't be six, it would probably be two or three, but you'll get, it's a compromise

1470
01:39:23,620 --> 01:39:26,760
to getting the computers, some computers in there.

1471
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:33,500
But you won't get, we won't put all $20,000 in library, I'm sure it'll be the 11 that

1472
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:34,360
she's requesting.

1473
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:34,680
Okay.

1474
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,000
and the other 10 going towards the computer portion.

1475
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,880
Okay. Yes, Councillor Hyle.

1476
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:45,380
Question. Since he had designated a dog park, can we use it for other? Do we need it for

1477
01:39:45,380 --> 01:39:48,620
other animal areas? Do we need it?

1478
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:55,900
That's what I'm saying. That's a conversation you all need to have. What? I mean, do you want

1479
01:39:55,900 --> 01:39:59,460
another kennel back there? We have to face for another kennel. He can give the 20,000 for

1480
01:39:59,460 --> 01:40:02,660
another. I think we need to, I think we need to hear from Mr. Shahati.

1481
01:40:03,420 --> 01:40:07,480
but that's if you want me to make the request on the library I mean she's saying

1482
01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:11,660
more animals so does anybody agree with her instead of the 20,000 going to

1483
01:40:11,660 --> 01:40:14,940
library does anybody agree with it I mean it can be split up it doesn't have to

1484
01:40:14,940 --> 01:40:19,840
all go to one thing right well he already I mean no he's already given

1485
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,560
I let you speak Tina just a minute let's finish this discussion I will definitely

1486
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:30,080
hear from you so he yes I mean he I think his I think was animals so he broke it

1487
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:35,660
down to trees, animals. He already gives a side donation library. That's why I'm a little

1488
01:40:35,660 --> 01:40:38,980
bit hesitant to say that he's going to give that money to the library because he already

1489
01:40:38,980 --> 01:40:44,320
does that through the friends. He's just passionate about that stuff and that's something he does

1490
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:49,520
on the side. And so I think this 20,000 was designated to the animal piece because there's

1491
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:54,720
another component he gave us was to the tree mitigation piece. That was an extra 20,000

1492
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:59,040
that he wanted to use for trees. So he did the development but he did side donations just

1493
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:05,160
to benefit the city, I guess, and so one of those was dog park because he wanted to benefit

1494
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:09,460
the animal side of things. I don't know. He may say no to the library because he gives

1495
01:41:09,460 --> 01:41:13,220
and he may want that to be dedicated to animals undefined.

1496
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:15,560
Okay, very good. All right, Ms. Chasin.

1497
01:41:20,540 --> 01:41:30,600
Also, as I stated previously, my discussions with Mr. Shahadi and we talked about the dog park

1498
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:34,080
because I had gathered along with Ms. Hyall,

1499
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:38,260
information about the downside of dog parks.

1500
01:41:38,900 --> 01:41:42,660
And we've expressed that before at previous council meetings.

1501
01:41:43,480 --> 01:41:48,480
Mr. Shahati said to me, and I believe also to Ms. Hyall,

1502
01:41:49,180 --> 01:41:54,380
that he would be willing to take the $20,000 he had promised

1503
01:41:54,380 --> 01:41:58,740
to develop a dog park and shift it over to whatever

1504
01:41:58,740 --> 01:42:05,440
Whenever you were developing in the city to house our dogs, because so many dogs were

1505
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:14,800
being dumped, he wanted the money allocated for the animals because we had nothing here

1506
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,560
before for the animals.

1507
01:42:17,180 --> 01:42:24,640
He was very pleased to find out what we were doing and what Crystal had done as far as acquisition

1508
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:30,200
acquisition of the kennels and the air conditioning and the improvements.

1509
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:38,460
And he said he would be very willing to donate the money towards that so it would be increased

1510
01:42:38,460 --> 01:42:47,480
if we needed extra cement areas, buildings, covers from the elements, whatever, just to make

1511
01:42:47,480 --> 01:42:55,560
make sure this one part of Leon Valley that has been so empty for so many decades here

1512
01:42:55,980 --> 01:43:02,760
as far as caring for the animals that are dumped or straight or run away, whatever.

1513
01:43:03,460 --> 01:43:10,560
So I'm not really, I mean, you can ask Mr. Shahati whatever you like, but I will also be

1514
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:16,420
talking to him because we both feel very strongly about this, that it goes to the animals.

1515
01:43:16,420 --> 01:43:24,600
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yes, Councillor Murge.

1516
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:33,660
I know that we got an estimate or a quote for the dog park of the $49,000, but is it possible

1517
01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:39,300
to do a less deluxe? That is the least deluxe, the least deluxe

1518
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:44,380
we still like to you got. Now you can, I mean, Melinda is going to jump

1519
01:43:44,380 --> 01:43:48,820
and say you just take out less amenities for them or whatever, you know.

1520
01:43:49,140 --> 01:43:51,560
I mean, do the dogs really need the pipe to run through?

1521
01:43:51,900 --> 01:43:53,400
I mean, you know, I don't think we even have that.

1522
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:54,940
I mean, you think that it was just water.

1523
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:56,900
We had water over there already.

1524
01:43:57,140 --> 01:43:58,780
We have water, but you still need to put the fountain

1525
01:43:58,780 --> 01:44:01,580
with the water holes and the cleaning stuff.

1526
01:44:02,220 --> 01:44:05,520
But we did have a couple of, I think, runs right when we went to the dog park.

1527
01:44:05,740 --> 01:44:09,560
We didn't put, like, in that 49,000, it wasn't an extravagant dog park.

1528
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:13,200
It was additional fencing to separate the large dogs from the small dogs.

1529
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:14,680
I mean, it was a basic, basic.

1530
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:15,380
Okay.

1531
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:15,780
Okay.

1532
01:44:16,440 --> 01:44:17,080
Councilor Bolton.

1533
01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:20,160
Is it broken down by, like, this is the fencing cost?

1534
01:44:20,660 --> 01:44:21,460
This is how much?

1535
01:44:21,500 --> 01:44:22,440
You've got a quote for it.

1536
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:22,700
Yeah.

1537
01:44:22,860 --> 01:44:24,240
And I gave, I think it's in your packet.

1538
01:44:24,260 --> 01:44:27,820
If you go to that portion of your packet, if I'm not mistaken, I put the quotes in there.

1539
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,560
The PowerPoint with the quotes in there is part of that.

1540
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:31,560
Thank you.

1541
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:34,140
That big ol' binder, if you had a chance to go through it, it's in there.

1542
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:36,940
Okay.

1543
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:37,420
So.

1544
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:38,720
Reach out to him.

1545
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:39,700
Reach out to him and see.

1546
01:44:39,980 --> 01:44:42,720
Reach out to him and see.

1547
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:54,500
Um, but I think I heard the council say they'd like if possible go to part to the library. Yes. So I'll ask him. Okay. If he's amenable to that. So okay.

1548
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:59,740
All right. So this is the library. We've went over that.

1549
01:45:00,020 --> 01:45:28,760
No other increases, no other major cuts. We're moving on to the enterprise fund. You're doing well here. You're operating revenues are sitting at five mill. Your operating expenses are sitting at three, three point three. Your transfer offer debt is 106. Personal services is 1.3. Just remember last year we moved all the salaries over from water fund to the general fund. So that's some of the impact this year, too, that you're seeing. Capitals 1.4. This is just the breakdown of your enterprise fund revenue.

1550
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:34,620
the majority of it is in super sales. These are your expenses. The majority of it here is on the

1551
01:45:34,620 --> 01:45:41,120
contractual side. Your enterprise fund expenses by department. Again, it is your super side.

1552
01:45:41,900 --> 01:45:46,560
This is the overall breakdown leaving your ending fund balance at 3 million.

1553
01:45:48,580 --> 01:45:55,300
We break down, we try to break down water sewer and stormwater. So let me just kind of get to

1554
01:45:55,300 --> 01:45:57,780
the water department, you can see here.

1555
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,760
I left pretty much all of Melinda's requests here.

1556
01:46:01,220 --> 01:46:04,560
I'm hoping that, so the construction crew,

1557
01:46:05,020 --> 01:46:08,320
the water crew, even your maintenance crewmen

1558
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,960
sometimes have to help when we have large water main breaks.

1559
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,160
They have to go out there, you know,

1560
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,080
and it's all hands on deck situation.

1561
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,480
You only have four utility people,

1562
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,320
and so sometimes when you have a large main,

1563
01:46:22,420 --> 01:46:23,640
you can't do that with four people.

1564
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,940
and so everybody's all hands on deck.

1565
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,080
So people come from other crews to help.

1566
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:34,320
And so we do leave all of her costs the same here.

1567
01:46:34,540 --> 01:46:35,580
So all of your construction costs,

1568
01:46:35,820 --> 01:46:36,800
your fleet, your registration,

1569
01:46:37,020 --> 01:46:38,160
your personnel boots and protection,

1570
01:46:39,220 --> 01:46:42,120
your water maintenance, all your unplanned supplies,

1571
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:43,520
all that we left pretty much the same.

1572
01:46:44,260 --> 01:46:44,780
Oh.

1573
01:46:46,140 --> 01:46:49,440
I have a question.

1574
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:50,500
Yes, Council.

1575
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:51,800
Council compass.

1576
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:57,080
When there's main breaks, I think there was one this past weekend this past weekend, right?

1577
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:04,520
So if it was all hands-on deck so do the the the the wages

1578
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:11,980
From those individuals who are not on our water crew did they get allocated over to so we so there's some

1579
01:47:11,980 --> 01:47:15,720
So we've you look at the percentage breakdown on the salary worksheet that I've got you

1580
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:20,020
I think I put all the utility there and I think I got a little bit of your construction guys over there

1581
01:47:21,020 --> 01:47:24,440
But for that day, you know, like, I mean, it's just kind of one of those things.

1582
01:47:24,820 --> 01:47:28,580
But for that water main break, I want to say it was just our water department.

1583
01:47:28,660 --> 01:47:30,160
Sometimes we call in a construction company.

1584
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:35,060
Sometimes it's Clark, I mean, depending on how big it is, how many people we have, you know,

1585
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,800
water licenses sometimes come into play.

1586
01:47:38,060 --> 01:47:40,960
I mean, there's, depending on what it is, what's going wrong, because it could be the water

1587
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:41,320
tower.

1588
01:47:41,540 --> 01:47:46,020
It could be like the water tower or the lightning guy hit, we had to call in a company to

1589
01:47:46,020 --> 01:47:48,340
come in and fix that system for us, and we had to wait on them.

1590
01:47:48,340 --> 01:47:54,060
So the guys have some general knowledge to be able to fix a lot of our things and they have the ability to do

1591
01:47:54,060 --> 01:47:57,180
You know, well, I've seen them do some pretty major main breaks

1592
01:47:57,180 --> 01:48:03,080
But if it's really really big gushers and something we're calling a contracting company. I mean right?

1593
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:08,480
Bravo. I was trying to think of the car but problem. Do we feel that the

1594
01:48:09,380 --> 01:48:12,240
portion of construction crews allocated

1595
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:22,380
I mean, I was through those percentages with you all last year and, you know, we have weaned the discussions on what those percentages look like.

1596
01:48:23,060 --> 01:48:26,420
We can take a look again. I can give you all those percentages again.

1597
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:31,380
I it's kind of one of those things like it just depends on a given year.

1598
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:35,340
Some years I'm utilizing the construction crew more with the water crew.

1599
01:48:35,660 --> 01:48:40,860
Some years is a really good year and I just I'm not they're dealing with streets more than they're dealing with the water.

1600
01:48:40,860 --> 01:48:44,700
So it's kind of one of those things that fluctuates.

1601
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:50,160
With our aging infrastructure, I don't know if we should re-evaluate that to see that.

1602
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:51,200
I can take a look at that.

1603
01:48:51,660 --> 01:48:52,580
Yes, Councilor Merch.

1604
01:48:53,700 --> 01:48:57,240
So I know I don't have as much background as everybody else does, but

1605
01:48:57,820 --> 01:49:01,880
so I think what I'm hearing is that you make a general

1606
01:49:04,220 --> 01:49:09,160
percentage distribution of these personnel costs to the different areas,

1607
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:14,120
But you don't do any real-time floating of the salaries to the other.

1608
01:49:14,260 --> 01:49:15,300
Yeah, you can't.

1609
01:49:15,340 --> 01:49:16,040
I can't.

1610
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,060
You can't do that.

1611
01:49:17,480 --> 01:49:21,420
So you have to budget appropriately and it's best estimation.

1612
01:49:21,860 --> 01:49:22,040
Okay.

1613
01:49:22,220 --> 01:49:27,620
So you can't do real-time floating into the enterprise fund and budget appropriately for it.

1614
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,240
Because I could have one water main break all year, I can have 12.

1615
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:36,980
I could have, I could be a lot of my time because I think 5% of my salary comes from the water fund or 10% comes from the water fund.

1616
01:49:37,660 --> 01:49:42,840
sometimes water takes up when we have the rate increases water is going to take up a good

1617
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:47,560
portion of my time here. I'm going to be filtering calls, answering questions. Sometimes

1618
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:53,560
I'm the person that gets the end of the rope after Melinda said no to the increase and

1619
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:57,860
David said no and then it's like oh you get my boss and so then I get to say no and you

1620
01:49:57,860 --> 01:50:05,480
know so it so it just depends on any given year who's using what sometimes the court personnel

1621
01:50:05,480 --> 01:50:07,980
Now they're the ones that process all the utility payments.

1622
01:50:08,620 --> 01:50:14,640
Jennifer gets more calls sometimes more times than David does, and so it just depends on

1623
01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:18,900
the situation, the given year, what's going on with the water department.

1624
01:50:19,460 --> 01:50:25,640
And so last year, for years and years and years, slowly and slowly, they try to alleviate

1625
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:30,560
without raising property taxes, try to alleviate the impact on general funds.

1626
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:34,780
So year after year, we were slowly moving salaries over to the water department.

1627
01:50:34,780 --> 01:50:38,480
And so you were paying for a lot of different salaries out of the water department.

1628
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:45,040
And so last year, because we were looking at rate increases, we took a look at the salary

1629
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:52,240
amounts, and we did about 250,000 worth of salary costs, and we moved them over into

1630
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:53,560
the general fund.

1631
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:58,800
And so you're seeing a little bit of that impact this year, but we also have already done

1632
01:50:58,800 --> 01:50:59,480
a rate study.

1633
01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:06,640
You do have expenditure over revenue sitting fairly well that I could still move some money over there and be okay

1634
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,240
I can probably move about 200,000 over there

1635
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:14,780
But I don't want to put you back in the position because that was mr. Bradshaw and Jed Hefner and counts

1636
01:51:14,780 --> 01:51:16,460
Even though they're not sitting on this dice anymore

1637
01:51:16,460 --> 01:51:22,660
They're still residents and that was their big argument was that we were having to raise water rates because we were using the

1638
01:51:22,660 --> 01:51:28,140
Enterprise fund to supplement your general fund. So I'm trying really hard to not go back in that direction

1639
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,920
And so I'm trying to make sure that every request that I'm moving over there, whether

1640
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:38,660
it's the encode, whether it's salaries, it's a true, justifiable amount that I can

1641
01:51:38,660 --> 01:51:40,200
tie actual numbers to.

1642
01:51:41,060 --> 01:51:43,740
So that's where I'm at with that.

1643
01:51:43,860 --> 01:51:46,060
But yes, we can take a look at the construction crew.

1644
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:50,140
I can take a look at those percentage slices and I can certainly take a look at some of

1645
01:51:50,140 --> 01:51:52,140
the salaries and adjusting for them.

1646
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:53,480
Okay.

1647
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:54,060
Thank you.

1648
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:55,220
Appreciate that.

1649
01:51:58,100 --> 01:52:01,300
So capital in the water fund is just water mains and water rights.

1650
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:07,900
Sewer fund, here's the breakdown, just main part,

1651
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:13,380
sewer camera repairs, manhole lids, hand tools.

1652
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:17,560
We have to paste saws or service fee.

1653
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:21,020
Our portion of share net near map is all in here.

1654
01:52:21,140 --> 01:52:22,620
There's the portion of encode.

1655
01:52:25,330 --> 01:52:33,250
There's your super main replacement, storm water, just your allocation for your fleet maintenance,

1656
01:52:33,870 --> 01:52:40,730
your gloves, your trimmer stuff like that, your debris removal, that's the other portion

1657
01:52:41,210 --> 01:52:46,370
that you can take first and tree stuff if it's in the creek, street maintenance, sweeper maintenance,

1658
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:52,690
repairs to any drainage system stuff, and there's your other portion for an air map and share net.

1659
01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:58,130
The big things we're taking out of here is the wood chipper, the back hole, and the brush removal truck.

1660
01:52:58,310 --> 01:53:03,230
The other thing that I talked to Melinda about is the trailer that's sitting on the other side.

1661
01:53:03,290 --> 01:53:06,810
You could possibly move the trailer over here because you need the trailer to move all this equipment.

1662
01:53:07,470 --> 01:53:10,690
So that 7,000 that's sitting there, you could move that over here if you need to.

1663
01:53:10,850 --> 01:53:11,510
To store water.

1664
01:53:12,150 --> 01:53:12,330
Okay.

1665
01:53:13,650 --> 01:53:16,250
Red light camera, this is the conversation I wanted to have.

1666
01:53:16,690 --> 01:53:22,530
As you can see here, we don't think that we're going to make what we actually budgeted for in red light cameras.

1667
01:53:22,530 --> 01:53:31,710
We had a big hit this year in revenue mid-year after there was a lot of media coverage about whether or not to pay your red light camera ticket

1668
01:53:31,710 --> 01:53:34,050
And so we took a big hit this year

1669
01:53:34,610 --> 01:53:39,610
We don't think we're gonna hit the two million that we budgeted and so you're gonna have to take that from your reserve amount

1670
01:53:39,610 --> 01:53:48,010
That's gonna dwindle your reserve amount to about 329,000. So that means you're starting this fiscal year with 329,000. I

1671
01:53:49,190 --> 01:53:52,450
It's up to y'all. My recommendation is to leave it the same

1672
01:53:52,530 --> 01:53:56,630
them, suck out the reserve and continue to pay your shelf personnel services.

1673
01:53:57,170 --> 01:54:04,110
You're going to have to make a serious decision at some point, more specifically, more likely

1674
01:54:04,110 --> 01:54:10,010
next year or the year after, on those salaries, and that share that $315,000.

1675
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:15,210
Or you're going to have to reduce your operating expenses or something else.

1676
01:54:15,550 --> 01:54:17,730
So just know that that is coming.

1677
01:54:17,730 --> 01:54:23,130
this will be probably unless we see an uptick in red light camera

1678
01:54:23,130 --> 01:54:29,830
payments. Look at the trend of the phone balance. Yeah, I mean, you know, we

1679
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:37,630
don't know. Yes, no, no, it's it's going down. But I didn't anticipate we didn't

1680
01:54:37,630 --> 01:54:41,690
anticipate the stuff to happen the way it happened mid-year this year. And so we

1681
01:54:41,690 --> 01:54:46,650
took a bigger hit. We did project a decrease from last year to this year, but it was

1682
01:54:46,650 --> 01:54:52,510
It's just a bigger hit, a half a million dollar hit, so you're going to have to take that

1683
01:54:52,510 --> 01:54:53,850
from your reserve fund balance.

1684
01:54:54,370 --> 01:54:55,650
Yes, Councillor Compos.

1685
01:54:56,790 --> 01:55:01,170
What's the cause of the increase of the contractual services?

1686
01:55:02,370 --> 01:55:03,810
What did I put over there?

1687
01:55:16,190 --> 01:55:16,350
No.

1688
01:55:17,250 --> 01:55:22,410
I was going to say because she took out the personal

1689
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,960
services, I guess, personal and you're

1690
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,620
So we actually added your liability insurance over here.

1691
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:36,840
26,000.

1692
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:37,200
26,000.

1693
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:39,750
Like what?

1694
01:55:40,290 --> 01:55:40,910
But this is.

1695
01:55:41,190 --> 01:55:43,570
There was some other slide that I was looking at.

1696
01:55:44,050 --> 01:55:45,930
You were flipping through here.

1697
01:55:46,230 --> 01:55:47,490
I don't know where it was.

1698
01:55:47,710 --> 01:55:48,090
So this is.

1699
01:55:48,150 --> 01:55:48,710
They're right here.

1700
01:55:50,110 --> 01:55:52,070
986803 in contractual services.

1701
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:55,530
And it goes to $1,037,558.

1702
01:55:56,510 --> 01:55:58,630
Oh, for this upcoming budget, yeah.

1703
01:55:58,630 --> 01:56:08,110
Yeah. What's over there? You're, what? Oh, traffic safety. That's where it's at. I was

1704
01:56:08,110 --> 01:56:13,310
like, where is that at? Okay. Yeah. We had a conversation earlier. It's this one here.

1705
01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:20,670
Contractor service and traffic safety. And I want to say it was person now. There it is.

1706
01:56:23,340 --> 01:56:23,820
It's

1707
01:56:23,820 --> 01:56:29,560
this one here. I don't know. It's your, it's your, your, remember when I was talking about

1708
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:34,360
your accent equipment. This is your accent equipment, but for the police side. Okay.

1709
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:40,560
I remember I told you about a camp. So that went up. Again, I don't like, there's certain

1710
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:47,800
things from here that you can shift out if you need to, but red light cameras isn't, I kind of

1711
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:54,500
look at it like your street maintenance fund. Like we take it down or deplete it. It's your reserve

1712
01:56:54,500 --> 01:56:58,440
fund and your red light camera. That's the whole reason I kept savings and everybody's like,

1713
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:02,920
Just use money from here and I'm like, nope, you need to save money, you need to save money and so

1714
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,860
This is why can we go back to the the red light camera?

1715
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:14,120
Yeah, that was the track. So this so it's red light camera and traffic safety. This is the summary page

1716
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,700
And then I break it down to red light camera expenditures

1717
01:57:16,700 --> 01:57:19,720
This is your red light cameras and then your traffic space safety expenditures

1718
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:24,940
And so your big increase here is in your contractual services 30,000 here

1719
01:57:24,940 --> 01:57:29,800
but the biggest contributor for the 30,000 is your axon equipment increase, which is 14,000.

1720
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:34,820
And there's some increases here. Now this trusted driver that we're bringing on will also

1721
01:57:34,820 --> 01:57:41,700
probably be able to move some of it over into your court technology because we buy your ticket

1722
01:57:41,700 --> 01:57:47,500
riders out of court technology. My hope is is that you, this shared driver, you won't need ticket

1723
01:57:47,500 --> 01:57:53,140
riders anymore. But I need an overlap a little bit because I love to launch things in for it to go

1724
01:57:53,140 --> 01:57:58,080
seamless but if it doesn't go the way I want it to go you have your backup ticket writers does

1725
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:03,680
that make sense and just like right now I'm live streaming on your new peg channel but I still

1726
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:08,900
have swag it going because I want to make sure it all works before we transfer so I have both

1727
01:58:08,900 --> 01:58:14,540
trusted driver in there but I also have some stuff and court technology just to make sure

1728
01:58:15,140 --> 01:58:19,600
that everything works the way it should I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket and it doesn't work.

1729
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:21,180
Yeah, Councilor Roscoe.

1730
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:25,880
Dr. Codetta, Chief Gonzalez gave a presentation on the

1731
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:26,560
the flock cameras.

1732
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:27,660
Yeah, the flock cameras.

1733
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:31,160
Are we going to have to have some expenditures to be able to operate that?

1734
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:32,340
I've already done that this year.

1735
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:33,900
And then just coming out of the red light camera,

1736
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:35,240
because let me see it on there.

1737
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:36,740
Yeah, no, it won't be a great hit.

1738
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:39,140
These are the flock cameras you're paid for by the grant.

1739
01:58:39,340 --> 01:58:40,040
Grant, yeah.

1740
01:58:40,340 --> 01:58:41,740
And so I thought it would be a grant.

1741
01:58:42,180 --> 01:58:44,220
And then the next year.

1742
01:58:44,900 --> 01:58:49,260
So it's with 2027 then that we would have to allocate expenditures for that.

1743
01:58:49,260 --> 01:58:51,980
It all depends when we sign a contract.

1744
01:58:52,380 --> 01:58:52,640
I see.

1745
01:58:53,260 --> 01:58:54,560
I have a contract.

1746
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:56,020
We haven't gotten a grant.

1747
01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:00,860
We cannot put any money aside for the reason of money.

1748
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:01,320
I see.

1749
01:59:01,620 --> 01:59:01,720
Okay.

1750
01:59:02,300 --> 01:59:03,100
So how does it look?

1751
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:08,620
Hopefully we'll get it.

1752
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:09,100
Thank you.

1753
01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:10,400
Okay.

1754
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:11,220
Anyone else?

1755
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:12,460
Okay.

1756
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:13,300
Thank you.

1757
01:59:13,820 --> 01:59:18,240
And so if it comes again, you have 98,000 still sitting there and there could be

1758
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:25,900
something that you could deplete. My big thing with your red light camera fund, again,

1759
01:59:26,140 --> 01:59:30,000
was to make sure you had enough money to cover yourself if this were to ever happen.

1760
01:59:30,180 --> 01:59:33,920
That's why we built your reserve up so high and you had almost a million dollar sitting

1761
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:38,680
there. It happened. I just thought it wasn't going to happen for another year or two. So

1762
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,740
it just happened sooner than I anticipated. That's fine. That's what it was there for. That's

1763
01:59:42,740 --> 01:59:47,600
what we're going to use it for. Then what we'll start doing next year is pulling items

1764
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:51,700
out of here and you'll have to move it over into your general whatever you

1765
01:59:51,700 --> 01:59:54,640
want to keep from here. You'll have to move over to your general fund. You should

1766
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:59,840
already by 2030 be taking all your salaries year by year out of here.

1767
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:24,400
Because your red light camera contract will end in 2037. And if it completely depletes, like if you're not getting the revenue to cover your ATS contract, which is this here, then you can get out of your contract sooner. However, right now it's still helping cover. You still have money there to help cover the salaries that 315 and salaries that we're transferring out. Yes, Councillor Compos.

1768
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:33,580
Crystal, I keep asking you to clarify something every time this comes out, tell the audience

1769
02:00:33,580 --> 02:00:36,760
how many police officers are being paid out of this red light camera.

1770
02:00:37,340 --> 02:00:37,900
Six.

1771
02:00:39,340 --> 02:00:39,360
Six.

1772
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:39,780
Six.

1773
02:00:39,780 --> 02:00:40,160
Six.

1774
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:40,440
Six.

1775
02:00:40,860 --> 02:00:41,020
Six.

1776
02:00:41,540 --> 02:00:41,780
Six.

1777
02:00:44,580 --> 02:00:44,760
Six.

1778
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:45,040
Six.

1779
02:00:46,020 --> 02:00:46,580
Six.

1780
02:00:46,580 --> 02:00:51,860
109,968 plus your 300 and shared services,

1781
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:53,680
where is that personal services?

1782
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:56,260
313,000 down here.

1783
02:00:57,460 --> 02:00:59,140
So it's all your personnel services

1784
02:00:59,140 --> 02:01:00,680
and all of your shared services.

1785
02:01:00,780 --> 02:01:02,500
So it's total out of your red light cameras

1786
02:01:02,500 --> 02:01:04,140
because it's traffic safety and red light cameras.

1787
02:01:04,580 --> 02:01:06,400
It's your 925 and your 315.

1788
02:01:07,060 --> 02:01:10,120
But as long as you generate enough to cover your contract,

1789
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:11,420
you can't get out of your contract.

1790
02:01:11,540 --> 02:01:14,580
So as long as you're generating the 798,000,

1791
02:01:14,580 --> 02:01:19,460
And, you know, you have to continue with your red light cameras.

1792
02:01:19,740 --> 02:01:23,880
But then you also have to pay for, if you want to keep that personal.

1793
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:25,900
Now, two personal would go away.

1794
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:28,160
They're your red light camera hearing officers.

1795
02:01:28,900 --> 02:01:31,900
And I gave you all the number last year and I can give you what that number looks like.

1796
02:01:32,300 --> 02:01:36,380
But that remainder of the cost would have to be siphoned over into either your general

1797
02:01:36,380 --> 02:01:36,960
fund.

1798
02:01:37,380 --> 02:01:40,100
Maybe crime control can take a little bit of a hit.

1799
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:42,460
But for the most part, it's going to be-

1800
02:01:42,460 --> 02:01:44,360
but we had a healthy balance in crime control.

1801
02:01:44,580 --> 02:01:45,960
But you're not trying to take from reserve

1802
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:47,180
to cover your salaries.

1803
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,300
Your crime control reserve is for equipment,

1804
02:01:50,500 --> 02:01:51,700
not for operating expenses.

1805
02:01:52,260 --> 02:01:53,300
And thank you, Mayor.

1806
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:56,480
And good thing that you work on it on 23,

1807
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:00,700
because lessons to learn, but Coney's Heights

1808
02:02:00,700 --> 02:02:03,580
did not prepare for this.

1809
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,740
And not to go after our sister city,

1810
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:11,020
but it's imperative that we do prepare for it,

1811
02:02:11,020 --> 02:02:12,360
It's going to happen like you said.

1812
02:02:12,500 --> 02:02:14,300
Well, I did prepare for this to happen.

1813
02:02:14,300 --> 02:02:14,640
Exactly.

1814
02:02:15,140 --> 02:02:16,020
And I'm thankful.

1815
02:02:16,020 --> 02:02:18,180
So I get to say whoever was doubting me,

1816
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:18,780
I told you so.

1817
02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:20,520
So whoever's sitting at home, I told you so.

1818
02:02:21,380 --> 02:02:23,040
But it was, I mean, it was a constant.

1819
02:02:23,100 --> 02:02:25,340
Spend your 900, five more vehicles out of here.

1820
02:02:25,780 --> 02:02:27,760
And I was like, you need to have a healthy reserve.

1821
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,820
I'm predicting this is what's going to happen.

1822
02:02:30,380 --> 02:02:31,160
And it happened.

1823
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:33,660
It just happened sooner than my anticipated time frame.

1824
02:02:34,300 --> 02:02:37,300
And so that's exactly what took place.

1825
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,340
And so we're taking it to fulfill the fund.

1826
02:02:39,340 --> 02:02:40,440
but maybe I'm wrong.

1827
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:41,860
I hope maybe by the end of the summer,

1828
02:02:41,860 --> 02:02:43,600
we'll have a little bit of an uptick,

1829
02:02:43,740 --> 02:02:45,420
and maybe this number will go up a little bit.

1830
02:02:45,620 --> 02:02:48,380
So I'm hopeful, and then next year,

1831
02:02:48,380 --> 02:02:50,420
we're projecting where we're ending up this year,

1832
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:52,300
and hopefully we won't go down anymore,

1833
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:55,120
and then we'll have a better idea of what we're looking at.

1834
02:02:56,060 --> 02:02:57,360
Okay, very good.

1835
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:57,800
Thank you.

1836
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:02,160
Any other questions on red light camera or traffic safety?

1837
02:03:05,310 --> 02:03:07,170
American Rescue, we just have to count for it,

1838
02:03:07,170 --> 02:03:08,970
because we're still paying for our ambulance out of there.

1839
02:03:08,970 --> 02:03:15,130
Here's your crime control your revenue is 440,000 your expenditures are sitting at 429

1840
02:03:15,130 --> 02:03:17,130
So you can see you have a little bit of money there

1841
02:03:17,130 --> 02:03:21,630
It does fund half of your assistant chief one patrol officer and one investigative sergeant

1842
02:03:22,290 --> 02:03:26,770
But you said it doesn't it can't it can only be used. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry

1843
02:03:26,770 --> 02:03:30,470
Yes, they can show that show that for ending fund back. I saw that tonight

1844
02:03:32,210 --> 02:03:36,270
Use that for your salaries. You can only you should only be using that for your equipment

1845
02:03:36,270 --> 02:03:43,790
So we'll purchase cars out of there, we'll purchase equipment out of there because it can only be even though we do fund three police officers

1846
02:03:43,790 --> 02:03:51,170
Well, 50% you're 50% and then the other two. Yes, so we're able to do three, but then no no additional

1847
02:03:51,170 --> 02:03:58,250
Well, no you only have a difference you so you're taking your 440 and you're 429 you subtract the two

1848
02:03:58,250 --> 02:04:00,530
That's the difference you have remaining that you can use

1849
02:04:00,530 --> 02:04:03,010
So roughly

1850
02:04:03,010 --> 02:04:10,050
I got you that's what the tax correct for the year. I can I can move some ammunition over here

1851
02:04:10,050 --> 02:04:17,550
I can move you know some little things from the general fund police into this I can take it off of red light

1852
02:04:17,550 --> 02:04:22,890
Camera and make sure I leave you with a hundred thousand fund balance and put it over here but with that 819

1853
02:04:22,890 --> 02:04:29,590
What can you purchase like cars or I mean the so that's you'll see I don't know if we moved it over yet

1854
02:04:29,590 --> 02:04:35,890
Yeah, it's supposed I think there's a there's a car and it'll be okay. I'm just anything else

1855
02:04:35,890 --> 02:04:41,470
No, but you could put your action on your bunker gear. It possibly put your axon equipment in here

1856
02:04:41,470 --> 02:04:48,510
Okay, it is an operating expense, but you can use that and hit your do you hit that reserve fun?

1857
02:04:48,910 --> 02:04:49,630
I mean

1858
02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:55,050
Typically don't you exist not a capital item, but you okay, you could do that

1859
02:04:58,410 --> 02:05:07,330
We're going to have to purchase in the future and so we're going to need money for that.

1860
02:05:07,370 --> 02:05:09,210
Can we use that fund for the radios?

1861
02:05:10,070 --> 02:05:17,950
That's why you don't want to hit this fund too hard because we need to prepare for the future because it's coming.

1862
02:05:18,630 --> 02:05:18,990
Right Chief?

1863
02:05:19,310 --> 02:05:19,650
It's coming.

1864
02:05:19,650 --> 02:05:33,730
Well that's good to know because I you know I was thinking we were going to have to you know work with their county and ask them again. Please please please help us. You are that 100 isn't going to cover. It's not going to cover you. At least but at least we have a healthy reserve.

1865
02:05:33,770 --> 02:05:48,210
Yeah and the radio's I mean it's a weird convert. It's a weird conversation because each individual radio technically is in a capital item. So it'll be put in as probably a contractual item and you'll hit your reserve fund as an operating expense.

1866
02:05:48,210 --> 02:05:52,270
It'll be a little funky, but we'll, but yes, you could use some of that money.

1867
02:05:52,330 --> 02:05:53,090
Okay, that's good.

1868
02:05:53,250 --> 02:06:00,460
No, sorry, expenditures for your crime control, we're on the community and

1869
02:06:00,460 --> 02:06:05,400
conference center 168,000 in revenue, expenditures are sitting at 166.

1870
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,780
So you're not going to have much go into your reserve fund.

1871
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:11,340
I did take out her requested capital, so we're going to sit and wait.

1872
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:14,440
Hopefully we can get the community and conference center rented.

1873
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:18,020
One of the big projects we're going to be taking on this upcoming year is

1874
02:06:18,020 --> 02:06:20,620
taking a look at all your fees. So we're going to be going through your

1875
02:06:20,620 --> 02:06:25,060
fee appendix and this is one of the fees or one of the your rental rate for

1876
02:06:25,060 --> 02:06:28,160
this but all your fees we're going to be going through those this this

1877
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:28,760
upcoming year.

1878
02:06:31,620 --> 02:06:36,600
Your community and conference expenditures it's just it's a very

1879
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:40,240
small budget you're just using it to fix the community and conference center

1880
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:44,860
throughout the year making sure that you're paying the biggest cost is paying your

1881
02:06:44,860 --> 02:06:53,420
water, your electrical, you know, you heat and you cool the community center five days

1882
02:06:53,420 --> 02:06:57,960
a week for like four or five people sometimes to pay play dominoes because the Northwest

1883
02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:03,480
seniors are in there. So that's just, but that's a big chunk of where a lot of your money

1884
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,920
goes to fund the community and conference center is your electrical.

1885
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:14,380
Street maintenance tax, we just to plead this fun, it can only be used to, for street maintenance

1886
02:07:14,380 --> 02:07:21,560
I didn't look, I was looking for the piece of legislation, it didn't look like it made it very far and so that was the one that we wanted to.

1887
02:07:21,780 --> 02:07:23,520
Yeah, to be able to use it for new construction.

1888
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:31,700
So we're sitting here for, but it's just street maintenance, so we can only use it for slurry sale, anything to do with street maintenance in the street, but you can't use it for reconstruction.

1889
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:42,100
Special revenue funds, these are just our baby funds, but when we're talking about court technology, this is what I was talking about here.

1890
02:07:42,100 --> 02:07:48,880
here, possibly moving the shared driver over here eventually will go into this.

1891
02:07:49,020 --> 02:07:54,480
But Leo's funds can only be used for training for police, building securities, your bail

1892
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:59,060
lifts, child safety, your school crossing guards, that's your service payment.

1893
02:07:59,340 --> 02:08:05,200
And then we're anticipating police forfeiture that's hopefully we'll get a bigger check

1894
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:05,580
than that.

1895
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:08,200
So would you explain that debt service?

1896
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:10,800
That's your debt service.

1897
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:14,040
but is it paid out of the INS?

1898
02:08:14,540 --> 02:08:16,840
Yes, that's your interest in singing fun.

1899
02:08:17,460 --> 02:08:20,920
But is the building, we consolidated all your debt.

1900
02:08:21,140 --> 02:08:22,700
So it is your bond for the building,

1901
02:08:23,140 --> 02:08:23,900
the fire truck.

1902
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:25,440
We're still paying for a fire truck

1903
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:26,460
that we don't have, yeah.

1904
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,940
We have to, a certificate on a bond.

1905
02:08:30,260 --> 02:08:30,820
On the bond.

1906
02:08:31,220 --> 02:08:33,240
So what you're seeing right there

1907
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,920
is the money that we're gonna move from the enterprise

1908
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:37,780
that is gonna pay for that bond

1909
02:08:37,780 --> 02:08:39,400
because it belongs to the enterprise.

1910
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:40,960
All right. Oh, it's the water tower.

1911
02:08:41,180 --> 02:08:42,180
Oh, it's the water tower.

1912
02:08:42,300 --> 02:08:44,380
Oh, that's the interest that we're going to...

1913
02:08:44,380 --> 02:08:47,440
No, sorry. That's the money that the water's going to give

1914
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,600
to the dev service, the 595.

1915
02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:51,820
The water's going to give to the...

1916
02:08:51,820 --> 02:08:52,660
The payment for the dev.

1917
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:53,840
Okay.

1918
02:08:54,260 --> 02:08:56,200
And also a part of the INS tax rate.

1919
02:08:56,540 --> 02:08:56,840
Okay.

1920
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:58,280
That's what I was...

1921
02:08:58,280 --> 02:08:58,820
INS.

1922
02:08:59,880 --> 02:09:00,000
Yes.

1923
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:00,900
Go ahead, Councillor.

1924
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:05,840
So we've had citizens' voice that we should have

1925
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:13,640
bonds, you know, float a bond for this and that, but we've had in the past, you know,

1926
02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:20,100
and I don't know when, but where we use bonds to buy equipment, such as what

1927
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:25,860
is it a fire truck, that is no longer in use, that it was funded

1928
02:09:25,860 --> 02:09:35,000
in a long-term bond obligation, and that's not something you don't want to do, and so and I would

1929
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:38,260
imagine you're you're not going to buy any equipment that doesn't meet the

1930
02:09:38,260 --> 02:09:43,800
life of the bond the salaries and and stuff like that so for those citizens that

1931
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:49,440
believe that no are are are secret to get out of a deficit is through a funding

1932
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:54,380
bonds it's not that case the bond should be used for long-term infrastructure you

1933
02:09:54,380 --> 02:09:57,120
do for city hall improvements if you're redoing maybe your community and

1934
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,680
conference center if you wanted to get a bond package together because you

1935
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:04,900
wanted to do your pool and your restrooms at the park and you know the

1936
02:10:04,900 --> 02:10:05,760
the library annex.

1937
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:10,020
So if you're doing a complete public improvement infrastructure that is going, the infrastructure

1938
02:10:10,020 --> 02:10:14,380
is going to be there for the next 50 years, or the next 30 years, that's what you're

1939
02:10:14,380 --> 02:10:15,180
kind of looking at.

1940
02:10:15,580 --> 02:10:19,380
Now, there's been big bond projects for streets, some cities have done some large bond projects

1941
02:10:19,380 --> 02:10:25,260
for street improvements, and so that's something that y'all can consider, I mean, not now, but

1942
02:10:25,260 --> 02:10:30,580
at some point, if you need a bunch of reconstruction, some street reconstruction, with us going

1943
02:10:30,580 --> 02:10:34,880
in and doing the water stuff that we've approved the water infrastructure, that'll

1944
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:37,380
go hand in hand with some street improvements

1945
02:10:37,380 --> 02:10:39,220
because we'll be in there for the water already.

1946
02:10:40,180 --> 02:10:42,840
And so that will be part of that contract a little bit.

1947
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:47,400
And so, you know, so you'll kind of get bang for your butt

1948
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,440
kind of situation when we're dealing with the water

1949
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:50,940
and the street situation there.

1950
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:53,960
But if you wanted to do a bond, because for public works,

1951
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:57,580
more particularly has been an ongoing conversation,

1952
02:10:58,020 --> 02:10:59,520
gosh, it's 2014.

1953
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:03,120
And so if y'all are looking at doing a bond package,

1954
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,660
but just know that it'll increase your INS rate,

1955
02:11:06,660 --> 02:11:09,520
which will impact your tax rate.

1956
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:15,300
So just to kind of go over personnel,

1957
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,180
salaries have been adjusted to current markets.

1958
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:20,200
So what is in here as part of that 5% personnel increase

1959
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:22,120
is we're bringing people up to market.

1960
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:23,860
I know I had one council member ask me,

1961
02:11:23,940 --> 02:11:26,180
they wanted to see each individual person's increase.

1962
02:11:26,380 --> 02:11:28,880
I gave that to you all already on 5.19.

1963
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:33,580
I'm not, again, the way I did it was based on years of service.

1964
02:11:33,580 --> 02:11:38,520
there's no other that's not on performance, it's not it's just bringing people to market based on their years

1965
02:11:39,660 --> 02:11:44,480
Again, I do have projected health insurance in there for 14% that hopefully will come down

1966
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:46,160
I don't know what that will look like

1967
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:50,020
longevity pay is in there. It's a tiered system

1968
02:11:51,700 --> 02:11:58,540
Here is the coverage for the health insurance. We got the funds in for retirement. It's coming in at 20.12

1969
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:07,000
The other piece of legislation just to kind of put you on notice is that past is TMS is going to be allowed to go to eight percent. So we're at seven.

1970
02:12:08,300 --> 02:12:15,060
I don't know what that looks like as far as dollars goes, but if the governor signs it, then TMS will have a new tier of eight percent.

1971
02:12:15,660 --> 02:12:20,840
So that at some point I know the employees are going to want y'all to have that conversation of whether or not y'all will be interested.

1972
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:22,100
And we're at seven right now.

1973
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:22,380
seven.

1974
02:12:24,620 --> 02:12:26,620
But that's going to cost additional $1,000.

1975
02:12:26,620 --> 02:12:28,200
It will cost additional $1,000. Absolutely.

1976
02:12:29,580 --> 02:12:34,500
So I do put the holidays, the Christmas holiday in here because we do shut down from Christmas

1977
02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:37,200
Eve until after January the 1st.

1978
02:12:37,300 --> 02:12:39,420
We reopen January the 2nd.

1979
02:12:40,580 --> 02:12:43,960
The next public hearing will be August the 19th.

1980
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:47,620
Formal adoption. We're hoping it will be around the August 19th timeframe.

1981
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:52,460
It may not be estimated date for the tax rate.

1982
02:12:52,460 --> 02:12:54,520
and that concludes my budget presentation.

1983
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:56,340
I don't have any questions.

1984
02:12:56,860 --> 02:12:57,080
All right.

1985
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,600
Well, I just want to, I've certainly opened it up

1986
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:04,020
for any further comments, but I just want to thank Dr. Caldera

1987
02:13:04,020 --> 02:13:09,000
and our finance director and all of the department heads

1988
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:12,140
because I know we've been working on this for a while

1989
02:13:12,140 --> 02:13:13,860
and I know you put a lot of time and effort

1990
02:13:13,860 --> 02:13:15,260
and we greatly appreciate it.

1991
02:13:15,820 --> 02:13:17,720
And we're making some progress, you know?

1992
02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:21,700
I mean, it used to be 1.3 or 1.8.

1993
02:13:22,260 --> 02:13:27,040
It was like what I've never seen at that high so we've we've so anyway

1994
02:13:27,700 --> 02:13:33,180
Kudos to all of y'all and thank you so much for all your efforts really appreciate it any other yes comments

1995
02:13:33,180 --> 02:13:34,920
Yes, thank you mayor crystal

1996
02:13:35,900 --> 02:13:43,860
The governor just signed a bill for the Valerian tax for 65. How is that gonna affect it?

1997
02:13:43,860 --> 02:13:48,540
Yeah, it is going to impact y'all well it depends. I mean, it's got to still go to the voters for a lot of those

1998
02:13:48,540 --> 02:13:54,100
Oh, there's a lot there yeah, there's a lot of portions to that it won't for this particular budget if it goes into effect

1999
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:59,680
So the election will happen in November it will into effect in January of 26th for that tax year

2000
02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:03,340
My understanding and this is what I told America's I'm not a hundred percent sure

2001
02:14:03,340 --> 02:14:08,400
And I'm hoping that when I go to my training tomorrow and Saturday that I'll get a little bit of clarification

2002
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,960
It's not supposed to be for the proceeding tax here

2003
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:15,600
It's supposed to be for the tax year on coming is the way I'm reading it. Maybe I'm wrong

2004
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:21,880
And so you will see that impact not in this budget, but next year's budget.

2005
02:14:22,500 --> 02:14:23,980
And there's a lot of stuff in there.

2006
02:14:24,140 --> 02:14:29,120
There's a lot of increases, I mean, it's the highest tax bill being passed in a long

2007
02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:29,500
time.

2008
02:14:29,660 --> 02:14:34,700
And so the only way to combat any of that is going to be with raising your property tax.

2009
02:14:34,940 --> 02:14:38,720
But there's a lot of exemptions.

2010
02:14:38,920 --> 02:14:41,040
I think there's four big ones that will impact you.

2011
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:42,800
So.

2012
02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:50,840
Okay, and the second question is in a refreshment memory, I know that we had a lawsuit for the opiate and they just

2013
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:59,980
Several for seven point four billion dollars. Do we still have a dog 30,000 it was it was a percentage split and we've gotten I think 14,000

2014
02:15:02,140 --> 02:15:29,160
So you won't get any more. So they did it based on the big, the big cities got it. So like San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, all the smaller cities got like 7,000, 10,000. They did it by percentage appropriations. Okay. Thank you. And great job. This is more detailed budget that I've seen. Thank you. Yeah. Anyone else? Yes, Councillor Compos.

2015
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:35,900
So, Crystal Carroll, thank you, this is a lot of detail for the citizens at home.

2016
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:41,020
Every one of these numbers, you've got the detail for it.

2017
02:15:41,260 --> 02:15:42,220
These are not guesses.

2018
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:49,500
This is our best estimates based on experience that you've got, input from your staff.

2019
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:52,720
You've questioned the staff, you've reduced expenses.

2020
02:15:53,420 --> 02:15:55,240
I think you did a phenomenal job.

2021
02:15:56,680 --> 02:16:09,620
There's increases in personnel cost and supplies and contractual services and still, even with revenue going down, which we never would have anticipated.

2022
02:16:09,820 --> 02:16:15,820
I mean, we somewhat anticipated revenue at one point being hit when we raise the exemptions, right?

2023
02:16:16,340 --> 02:16:21,340
We kind of anticipated that would be hit to our top line.

2024
02:16:21,340 --> 02:16:29,740
But we did, I don't think we ever publicly said to the audience to our citizens that there

2025
02:16:29,740 --> 02:16:36,520
is a possibility of having property assessments being reduced in that $40 million.

2026
02:16:37,180 --> 02:16:43,800
That is a big thing to overcome and you've attempted to do that, I think you all did an excellent

2027
02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:44,240
job.

2028
02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:49,860
But I want to point out to the citizens that this means that we have a very, beyond the

2029
02:16:49,860 --> 02:16:52,340
a very bare bones budget.

2030
02:16:52,700 --> 02:16:55,020
You've done a significant amount of cuts,

2031
02:16:55,480 --> 02:16:59,440
and there may not be where we're going to be able to say,

2032
02:16:59,620 --> 02:17:02,920
oh, citizen AB or C is saying,

2033
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:04,640
I need some extra services.

2034
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:08,760
We probably can't do it.

2035
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:11,380
And we're not going to be able to repair things

2036
02:17:11,820 --> 02:17:13,880
as quickly as what we've done in the past.

2037
02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:17,600
However, there will be things that you may want to bring,

2038
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:24,980
you will bring to us that said, look, this needs to be taking into consideration individual

2039
02:17:24,980 --> 02:17:28,680
items at a time for budget adjustments, right?

2040
02:17:28,900 --> 02:17:32,080
But I just want to make sure that the citizens are aware of that.

2041
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:41,540
And you know, if we're thinking that, okay, our rates got to be the same, I am not of that

2042
02:17:41,540 --> 02:17:41,960
opinion.

2043
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:46,640
Okay, I think our rate is going to have to increase and this is just my sole opinion, okay?

2044
02:17:46,640 --> 02:17:56,680
And, you know, the new net revenue revenue rate is going to have to go up because we're

2045
02:17:56,680 --> 02:18:00,860
seeing we don't have the same revenue and add the lower taxes, okay.

2046
02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:01,660
That's my point, yeah.

2047
02:18:01,860 --> 02:18:05,920
So, again, I want to thank you.

2048
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:10,580
I did notice that we were cutting some things even more.

2049
02:18:10,820 --> 02:18:15,420
We've got the 9000 from what I'm, I tried it down 9000 for Fiesta Metals.

2050
02:18:15,420 --> 02:18:22,280
the plastering going from the operating to capital. We've got moving at least 8,000 to

2051
02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:29,340
encode if I understood that correctly. Correct to the water fund. We're going to look at minor

2052
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:40,840
allocation changes from the general fund to the water fund. So, you know, we're trying to really

2053
02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:45,840
get this under control and I think all of us have been through these sessions and all

2054
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:50,800
of us have given you input. So again, thank you for the job that you're doing and thank

2055
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,140
you for all your department heads. Thank you.

2056
02:18:53,320 --> 02:18:53,900
You appreciate it.

2057
02:18:53,940 --> 02:18:54,240
You bet.

2058
02:18:54,740 --> 02:18:54,960
Okay.

2059
02:18:56,060 --> 02:18:57,640
All right. A labor of love.

2060
02:18:58,060 --> 02:18:59,320
Okay. Anyone else?

2061
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:06,080
Okay. Well, thank you all very much. If there's no July 1st, next meeting.

2062
02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:10,600
Yes. July 1st is our next meeting at 5 o'clock and we will meet in the large

2063
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:17,400
conference room. It'll be a continuation of our annual retreat that we started on May 31st,

2064
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:23,660
but did not get through it all. So hopefully we will get through it on Tuesday, July 1st,

2065
02:19:23,720 --> 02:19:31,260
at 5 p.m. And then after that is the 4th of July. And at 6 o'clock, I think it'll be

2066
02:19:31,260 --> 02:19:36,020
and no parade, but we will all be there with our red, white, and blue.

2067
02:19:36,020 --> 02:19:38,340
Okay, Ron has been moved to back here.

2068
02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:39,160
I don't know if y'all've gone.

2069
02:19:39,300 --> 02:19:39,760
No, huh?

2070
02:19:39,980 --> 02:19:40,560
Oh, okay.

2071
02:19:40,780 --> 02:19:42,700
I didn't know about the 5K, Ron.

2072
02:19:43,980 --> 02:19:51,140
So yeah, so in order, we were trying to make the numbers work for the police, and so we found

2073
02:19:51,140 --> 02:19:52,860
that we needed reduced police personnel.

2074
02:19:52,860 --> 02:19:58,220
If we relocated the race, it's going to go, I'm in a crystal where you at, I'm going to

2075
02:19:58,220 --> 02:19:58,560
say it, Ron.

2076
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:01,460
Yeah, well, Bernie, so you're going to get all the El Verde people of set probably.

2077
02:20:01,460 --> 02:20:01,940
Oh, boy.

2078
02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:06,740
but there's a nice new hike and bike trail that they can hire.

2079
02:20:06,740 --> 02:20:07,900
So try to utilize that.

2080
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:09,140
Yeah, that's right.

2081
02:20:09,740 --> 02:20:13,700
So the Shadow Mist Trailhead over here, that's where it's going to start.

2082
02:20:14,140 --> 02:20:15,720
The Shadow Mist Park.

2083
02:20:16,060 --> 02:20:16,700
Oh, this area.

2084
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:18,500
On the street right there, Shadow Mist.

2085
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:22,100
It's not going to be at the Northwest Lilac.

2086
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:25,940
Oh, so we're going to start at Shadow Mist and we're going to come all the way up to the trail.

2087
02:20:26,340 --> 02:20:30,840
And you're going to go over to Jeff Loop, come down El Verde, come back on the trail.

2088
02:20:30,840 --> 02:20:36,000
two laps and then go back to Shuttle Mist and so they're going to use that

2089
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:41,540
empty parking lot or empty lot area as a parking lot for them. This really

2090
02:20:41,540 --> 02:20:44,280
minimizes the amount of barricades and cones and we have to purchase one of the

2091
02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:49,760
purchasing and so the numbers are going to significantly go down for that so

2092
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:54,120
when you're asking for costs for the 5k that's what I need to know so when you

2093
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:59,740
meet on July 1st what route are they in favor of we can get actual cost for each

2094
02:20:59,740 --> 02:21:04,940
route because each route will be different amount of barricades, cones, security, it goes,

2095
02:21:05,240 --> 02:21:08,920
it's impacted by intersections, major intersections, or impact that cost.

2096
02:21:09,900 --> 02:21:15,200
Okay, now, I just want to be sure, number one, are we going to put this in the e-news

2097
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:17,300
or wherever on the website?

2098
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:19,020
So she already has it on her website?

2099
02:21:19,380 --> 02:21:19,600
Okay.

2100
02:21:19,780 --> 02:21:23,820
She already has it on her website and she's already shared some information as a flyer and

2101
02:21:23,820 --> 02:21:24,960
I've put that in the e-news already.

2102
02:21:26,220 --> 02:21:31,440
so I told her that I would at the kind of semi-heart make doorhangers and do

2103
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:35,320
the 26 houses here. I was going to say we need to communicate to citizens that

2104
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:35,520
helped.

2105
02:21:37,940 --> 02:21:43,100
I'll help you. I'll help you. I'll help you. I'll help you. I want to go

2106
02:21:43,100 --> 02:21:48,440
and do doorhangers for her. Okay. Now if you need help I'm I love to walk. Yes.

2107
02:21:49,040 --> 02:21:53,360
Councillor Mersh. Is there enough parking at Shadow Mist? I mean that's not a real

2108
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:59,140
big space at that trail. So after we met as a team and you know chief and fire

2109
02:21:59,140 --> 02:22:03,680
and public works we all met and we we felt confident that there is parking

2110
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:07,260
not only here at City Hall. I mean yes they're going to run a 5k but you're

2111
02:22:07,260 --> 02:22:09,100
already going to run so you can walk.

2112
02:22:11,780 --> 02:22:14,700
You can walk to the shed a mess. Yeah you can

2113
02:22:14,700 --> 02:22:21,900
walk down El Verde meet up at the site or park if you get there early. And then

2114
02:22:21,900 --> 02:22:27,580
And I'd like to suggest that even though you're not going to run the 5K, go ahead and register

2115
02:22:27,580 --> 02:22:32,520
anywhere and get a medal, if things look, we may not have this again, and the medal

2116
02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:33,240
will be a keepsake.

2117
02:22:33,320 --> 02:22:37,360
Not only that, but it helps with your circle of society, and it helps you stuff with the

2118
02:22:37,360 --> 02:22:38,100
onion house and stuff.

2119
02:22:38,220 --> 02:22:42,260
Well, we're trying, so we needed to reduce the cost this year because we were already kind

2120
02:22:42,260 --> 02:22:48,720
of screeching over budget, and so the new route she gave us was going to increase the budget

2121
02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:56,380
by an additional 5,000 just to cozy intersections with security and stuff to be able to block the intersection she was looking at wanting to do.

2122
02:22:56,860 --> 02:22:58,120
So we told her she couldn't do that.

2123
02:22:59,080 --> 02:23:01,780
So then we said, let's draft one for you at the minimal cost.

2124
02:23:02,060 --> 02:23:06,580
And so I thought, well, once I get the numbers of how much this costs and I can present that to you.

2125
02:23:06,660 --> 02:23:15,140
So when you have the discussion on whether or not to fund that or not, you know, I have at least two variations of the cost what we paid last year.

2126
02:23:15,140 --> 02:23:17,980
And then we're going to pay this year on this kind of situation.

2127
02:23:18,700 --> 02:23:20,400
Well, thanks for thinking outside the box.

2128
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:23,920
And again, reducing the cost is trying.

2129
02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:24,560
It's been key.

2130
02:23:24,960 --> 02:23:26,120
So thank you so much for that.

2131
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:28,080
OK, all right.

2132
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:32,260
So if there's no, I don't know where my phone is, what time is it?

2133
02:23:32,700 --> 02:23:33,720
No, oh, there it is.

2134
02:23:33,980 --> 02:23:37,280
7 is at 8 or 7, 725.

2135
02:23:37,540 --> 02:23:38,940
All right, so if there's no objection,

2136
02:23:38,940 --> 02:23:47,620
We will move to adjourn on June 19th at 725 from our special meeting.

2137
02:23:47,800 --> 02:23:48,240
Thank you.

2138
02:23:48,500 --> 02:23:49,260
You all have a good evening.

2139
02:23:49,360 --> 02:23:50,940
We'll see you on July 1st.