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There they've been there for like 20 years and he've been admin on all kinds of shins.

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It's not good.

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Okay guys, if y'all say this is something that's gone for me.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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in the morning.

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Is it four times?

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It's a part time.

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It's a part time.

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It's a part time.

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It's a part time.

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I did.

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It's contact for us.

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So I'll be my own boss.

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I won't have to be working for this.

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I won't take it down.

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I can't anybody can come in.

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My main job.

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There you go.

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But I'm in front of my own tax.

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It's sort of a little bit over.

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Every time you make sure you put it in.

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It's 25% of it.

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It's not with the school, but it's with a company working with special education and to where we're going to what ever just has a concept with us, whatever, if they need someone to do our meetings for that day, then we're going to do our meetings for that day.

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I do the teachers so you can feel like

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that will avoid or I wanna go.

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And it's seven to three.

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So I have my evening, in the right.

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What do you think?

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What's going on?

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No, we're all.

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I don't know what's all this.

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That was a good one.

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I think I'm going to be doing it with you.

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It's getting to be the first time I've ever heard of it.

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I've never heard of it.

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I haven't been able to do it.

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You know, you don't have to do it.

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Now, I'm going to do it wherever you go.

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I'm going to do it.

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I'm going to do it.

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that's enough to be seen.

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No, I think that's enough.

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You can be seen.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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So I didn't know Robin's.

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How are you?

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So are we in?

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It's not.

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It's not.

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So, you can say it.

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Testing testing.

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We need a copy of it.

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We need a copy of it.

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We need a copy of it.

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When we're out here.

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This one can be this one.

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It's a new one.

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It's a new one.

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It's a new one.

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It's a new one.

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It's a new one.

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It's a new one.

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Good

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evening and welcome to the City of Leon Valley City Council regular meeting.

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We're so glad so many of you could join us this evening.

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Today's Tuesday, July 21st, 2026, and it's approximately 6 p.m.

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And I have asked Councillor Betty Hild,

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please lead us in the pledge if you'll please stand.

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Thank you.

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Just in the side, we do have a quorum.

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We'll get to you in just a minute.

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Okay, yes, I'll call you up.

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All council members are present.

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We do have a quorum.

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I forgot to say that.

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As many of you can see, we have new upgrades in our chambers, thanks to the paid funds.

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So thank you, Dr. Colderra and Crystal Miranda and all the other team that has worked on this so hard.

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But please be patient. We're still in the middle of, we haven't finished.

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So if there's some glitches, just bear with us. Okay, so thank you so much.

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All right, number two, citizens to be heard, and this is your opportunity, ma'am, to please come and

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state your name and where you generally reside, and you have up to three minutes to speak.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Your bad name is Olivia Spinoz and I live in Leon Valley.

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So good evening to everybody and thank you for listening to me for just about three minutes.

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I will be really quick.

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However, it is very important for me as a citizen and the citizens of Leon Valley to

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briefly mention how disappointing it was that our city was not able to allocate resources for

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a proper fourth of July celebration. It was our America's 250th birth celebration, which is why

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I took a look at the city's budget to figure out what's going on here.

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Why couldn't we have a proper 4th of July celebration?

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Excuse me. I found that quite a bit of the city budget does go to crime services, which is good,

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of course, we want to save city. However, one very concerning item in the budget that I could not

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help to notice is the allocation of $50,000 for the invasive flood cameras now placed in our city,

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which is only about two miles along, excuse me, and a mile and a half wide, and we have a

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approximately less than 13,000 people living here in Leon Valley. I don't believe the residents

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of Leon Valley know exactly what these cameras are doing. I certainly was not aware of their

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intrusiveness nature that actually violates the fine lines of appointment rights. There are many

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controversy surrounding the use and misuse of these cameras is they do in essence

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pinpoint every place time and location our personal vehicles are in we drive our vehicles

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99.9% of the time also the sharing of this information without citizens knowledge or oversight

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as I understand it there is no real policy or accountability so if a citizen wants to know

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if they have been flocked and for what reason, and by whom,

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they're not going to get that information.

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Okay, where exactly are these flood cameras located?

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We have, we have a right to know, and we should know,

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because criminals, well, they're going to commit crimes

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regardless of what's in place to a very crime activity.

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Austin, Texas, has canceled its flood contract

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to name a few cities, Austin, Texas.

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because of its abusive nature and violating citizens' rights.

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So I'd like to ask City Council to please cancel or consider not approving any additional resources

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for flood cameras in our city of Leon Valley, Texas.

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Instead, allocate these money to better serve the citizens of Leon Valley,

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like have any proper fourth of July celebration,

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or maybe even hiring additional police officers.

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I think I have a little bit of time. Okay, so last note,

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I'm not sure on the agenda for animal control, but it must be strengthened to protect citizens

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from being malt.

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We nearly were one evening on an evening walk and also to send a courtesy reminder for

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pet owners to please be responsible for each of your dogs and clean up after them.

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Thank you so much, God bless you guys.

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Thank you for the time that you've given me.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Espino, I would appreciate those comments.

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Anyone else like to address the council at this time, please come forward and state your name.

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And yes,

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and where you generally reside.

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Hello, hello, how are you, Miss Alonzo,

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could you see you?

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If they stamp behind me, they're going to...

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You sure can.

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You sure can.

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Are they all, y'all, all done something spectacular together, right?

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There you go.

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Practicing our civic student.

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OK, hello.

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My name is Michelle Alonzo.

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I live here in Leon Valley for 10 years now.

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my name is Jade and Metcalf.

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I am currently living in the on valley. I have been here 20 years my entire life and I have come to address the current situation of our 4th July celebration during our country's

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225th anniversary. So I am on many others was thoroughly disappointed in the lack of fireworks and limited

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acknowledgement of our country's anniversary and the sacrifices that contributed to the ability of our anniversary. Now I have grown up my whole life

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like I said in Leon Valley.

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And I've solidified long lasting memories with my friends,

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celebrating and wonder at the many fireworks shows

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that I fear younger and up and coming generations

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will not get to have of this continues.

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If budget allotment is an issue,

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I propose a few possible solutions.

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If we choose to stagger the celebration

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to only the years ending an over five,

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we can offset the celebration to about every five years,

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allowing for more time to budget

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and for this event in show,

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we can also see an admission feed

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for outsiders venturing around San Antonio or a celebration and offered discounted rates for the

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residents using a wristband system to identify residents versus non-residents would also be

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beneficial in order to distinguish the two types. And as you can imagine, this issue was so

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impacting to the residents that we on Valley, that not only I, but our other younger generations

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over here have decided to give you some of their perspectives and insights as well. Thank you so much,

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and this might sound a little silly, so feel free to laugh. But imagine your great grandma

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raised you your whole life, right? And then you had this like big plan for her 250th birthday

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and then you found out it was canceled. Would you feel pretty sad, right? Because she like raised

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your whole life. So my point is we had nothing to do really during the fourth of July and so

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late at night we tried driving around San Antonio to see if we can find some like fireworks

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but the fireworks that we saw were very far away so it didn't really feel like the 4th of July.

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Okay thank you. I'm Gabby McCaff. So we all saw and thought on the 4th of July how we could

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reform this for our future generations. We thought we could have some of the non-citizens pay

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and the citizens pay less or something and there would be no outside food or drink so

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that we could all make a profit for it. Okay, thank you. Hi, my name is hopeful on so we

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weren't so my siblings are really really good at running I'm not, but they like running right

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and the ice cream really early in the morning number one not a lot of parents are gonna let

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kids have ice cream out like nine to 12. And some people who are running, who are

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running their race, may or may not have been able to make it because of it was

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farther away and if you're running a race, you don't want to go like drive somewhere

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except your house to rest. Okay, thank you.

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My name is Aquinas Alonzo and I

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kind of

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grow a poem about the fourth of July and it's silly so you can laugh if you want. I walked

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around that faithful day in all I found was great so I say why don't make it a great great

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day. Yeah thank you.

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You had a really good impression but you checked out okay. Again Michelle

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on sale. So the memory of a dark sky with only smoke from other cities, celebrations,

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filling the night sky of a, of Leon Valley will always be in my children's minds.

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Next time someone comes up here and accuses you Council of wasting money on something like this.

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I want you to think of the,

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Disappointment and disheartening of these young people here. It takes much more than a balance checkbook to make a great city. I hope we can remember that this year.

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As we vote down to tear monuments like the silos, break up neighborhoods like Seneca 2 and cancel the fireworks for the 250th anniversary of our country. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Do appreciate this comments. All right. Anyone else like to address the council? Please come forward.

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Good evening, Robin. Welcome. We're so glad you're here. And our condolences to you and

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your family on the loss of Bill.

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Thank you. Robin Johnson or so, can I feel too?

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Most of you know Bill passed in June.

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What you may not be aware of is years ago, he loaned a gavel from when he was president

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of the Neighborhood Association in Omaha to the mayor.

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He was in sense.

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She was using a little bit of a teeny thing with his passing.

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There is a behest in the family, so I have requested the gavel back.

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In replacement,

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we, the family would like to present this Leon Valley City Council with a custom made

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Gabel and sound block. It is made with Texas Live Oak and it is in Lade with Turquoise.

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There will be a band placed on this at some point.

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We weren't sure exactly when we were going to get this that basically says it's presented

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to the Leon Valley City Council in memory of Williamville, Johnson, my husband loved this

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city.

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Thank you so much for having to appreciate it.

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And I will give the old bag, this is the beautiful gavles that Bill had lent us for the last five or six years with the city manager tomorrow, Robin, so you can pick it up.

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Do you want to?

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I do address the council.

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All right.

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No.

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Yes, I'm sorry.

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So I'm hearing the mic kind of go in and out.

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Our mic systems are set up like a funnel.

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And so if you talk and you move your head because you're kind of automated, I'm that way as well.

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It's not going to pick you up, so you have to talk, you can sit back and talk, but you have to talk straight into the interest of the way.

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Because if you're turning and talking this way to your colleagues, it's not going to pick it up.

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It's hard because I've got to look both ways.

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Well, they need to contribute as well.

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Okay, but I'll do better.

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We'll all do better, right?

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With this newfangled new system.

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Okay, we move then to presentations, three point one,

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presentation and discussion of the monthly financial report,

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and the June 30th, 2026.

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We have Carol Garene, our finance director.

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Here this evening, to present good evening and welcome.

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Good evening, Mayor and council.

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Thank you.

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I'm going to present the adjourn financials.

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start with a general fund, your overall

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revenue, we are at 74% within the target percentage of 75.

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Your sales tax and franchise taxes are lower, and this is just due to timing. We're still

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receiving, we're still pending to receive four more months for the sales tax and to let

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quarters for the for the frances taxes. I do one point out on your interest income is lower than on

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the fiscal year 2025 and this is due to decline on your interest rates on the city's interest rate

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we in June 2025 the interest rate was at 4.3 and in June 2026 it's at 3.6. Overall your expenditures

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are at 56.7% this is lower than the 75% and this is just the timing of the invoices and

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expenditures so many expenditures are due to be incurred later on the year than rather than

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the beginning of the year.

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This is just your misliners revenue breakdown for your general fund.

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We did receive the $10,000 grant for the library and this is from the general fund foundation.

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Moving on to your water fund. Overall, your revenue is within the 75% target. You'll see the

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interest income also lower here and this is going to be across the board where the interest rate

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decline in June 2026. Your misliners revenue, I'm just going to go to the next slide so I

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can show it to you first. We receive the very county grant. This is tied to your elder

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the waterline project.

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Going over your expenditures,

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we are at 68.5%,

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still within the 75% range.

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Moving on with your community center fund,

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overall your revenues at 62.2%,

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which is within the 75%,

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your hotel motel taxes,

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they're at 54%,

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but this is just because we're received those quarterly.

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Again, the interest rate income, you'll see it lower than fiscal year 25, is because of the decline of the interest rate.

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Your expenditures are at 67.3% within the 75% target percentage.

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Moving on to economic development fund, the sales tax revenue were so pending to receive for more months.

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The income is still on the same the general fund and the water fund where they interest rate the client

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On your total expenditures, we are 34.5% but there was a four month period that we didn't have economic development director

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So those funds were not spent

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Moving on to your impound lot

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The impound lot is doing performance really well

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You'll see your impact log fees at 109% compared to last year, which we received 80%.

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Overall, your revenues are at 89.6%, higher than the 75%.

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Your expenditures are slightly higher than the 75% target percentage, but this is just due to the timing of the contractual services that we have received before.

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And lastly, we have the red light camera fund. Your total revenues are higher than your 75% target.

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We'll see the red light camera finds higher than last year in fiscal year 2012.

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We have 64.4% compared to this fiscal year at 82.8.

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And your expenditures and your red light camera, you're still within your total percentage of 75.

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It's slightly higher with 77%.

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But again, this is just due to the timing of some of the expenditures.

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And your traffic safety, we are 58% way below, but again, we're still trying to complete the fiscal year.

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So we might receive some of these expenditures later on in the year.

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Yes, Councillor.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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Thank you.

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I completely reviewed this and I've submitted my questions to you in advance.

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Yes.

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So I appreciate all the time and effort that you use to answer all the questions.

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My overall question is this, does it look like we're going to use all of our budget for

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the remainder of the year? I know there's a timing difference because we've got invoices

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and we've got some other services still pending. But does it look like there's going to be a large surplus?

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So when we're preparing the budget, we have to go and look at the estimate, right? To make sure

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where are we tracking or are we not tracking?

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So we and the Dr. Caldera, we all get together

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with each individual director

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and they have to go over their budget

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and where are they on their expenditures.

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So you will see on when Dr. Caldera presents the budget

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on the estimated, all of them are going to get to 100% target.

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The only one that might not get to 100% target

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is going to be your capital outlet projects.

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because some of them are going to go over to the next fiscal year.

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So, going back to, I'm going to go and drill in to the economic development.

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You know, I understand that there, we didn't have a director for four months.

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That would only be responsible for the personnel line item.

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But there's other supplies and contractuals that way below that.

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Is that still due to not having the director?

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So, well, on the supplies, if there's nobody needing any type of supplies and like the

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director, then we won't spend anything from that fund.

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The director has to authorize, to spend those that budget.

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On your contractual, you will also have your project funding grant.

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So if that's not happening, then we wouldn't spend that money, that's what you'll see it.

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So is that going to be part of the carryover?

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Some of them just, I saw, I saw the managers, yeah, I did, I just wanted to end respect,

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to let Ms. Netompost finish before the city manager responds.

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Absolutely, and I'm just keeping my hand up.

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OK, you know, I don't know, we, so I don't know if it's appropriate for me to raise

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and you nod, so I know that you saw my hand or to keep my hand, I don't want to,

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well, that's pressure anyway.

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No, OK, I'll always recognize you, you know that.

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So I just want to clarify something.

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And so in each of the line items like we have bunker gear that we're going to gear up to purchase and we've went out to bid and there's seven we're trying to make sure that we were able to purchase that hasn't been purchased yet we do plan to purchase that at the end of the year but there are things that will come up that we didn't purchase for the remaining of the year there's things that happen like in the police the good example is like the police department the forensic testing is a good example if I don't have the crime if I don't have rape kids or forensic testing needed for that year absolutely.

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We're not going to just spend the money to spend the money, that amount will either go back

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into your reserve fund or it will get allocated because we had to purchase something else.

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And we always bring those to you typically in September.

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So for those of you that don't, or new to our budget process, normally in August, what will happen

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is I will sit down with the directors and go over whatever is remaining for the end of the

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year.

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And one or two things will happen.

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We will either do a role over budget adjustment, which you all will see in September.

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budget adjustments if needed. So if we had a good example of that is the fire department

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BADORS. We have to have the BADORS open and closed. That's an expense. And so they had to

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be fixed. So we've eaten that in our budget. The air ducts in the fire department needed to

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be cleaned. We had to do that. That was completed. But if we didn't spend everything in the fire

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department, there's no need for the budget adjustment. We will eat those costs, but we will

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notify the council of that in September when we're discussing the roll over amount or budget adjustments.

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But normally I won't know if all of the expenditures are going to happen or occur until next month.

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Like we sit down and say what's going to happen, what needs to roll over, does any of this need to,

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is this going to hit the reserve fund balance?

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So that's normally the thought process.

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So that way you understand how the process goes.

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Okay, thank you.

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You're welcome.

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You're welcome.

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Follow up.

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Thank you.

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This Gary do appreciate it.

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Okay.

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Moving then to agenda three point two.

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Presentation, discussion and workshop on an ordinance related to the fiscal year

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2026, 2027 proposed budget.

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The council met on.

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I believe it was July the 14th and we met four hours and about three hours was on the budget.

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And we didn't quite finish it.

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And so we were bringing it back on today's agenda.

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And I think, Citame Andrew, we decided to start

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where we left off.

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I don't know if she's hearing me, but I'm wondering.

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That's my understanding.

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Isn't that Charles's understanding?

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Yeah, OK.

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And I believe we finished the general fund budget,

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but now we're ready to go to the enterprise fund.

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That is correct.

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But I am going to hit on two things

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in regards to the general fund because what the residents will see as part of this packet

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actually probably three things because I have a feeling the alonsos that are sitting back

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here I can address kind of something in regards to that. Can you put up the budget on big screen

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place?

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So the thing, the big thing that has changed in this budget in comparison to the one that

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I gave last time is your deficit is down by, so I'm going to go quickly, $454,000. There's a

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a couple of things that have happened since the last time we met, which was just last Tuesday.

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I received the certified tax roll, which showed that your exemptions have increased dramatically

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over them what we anticipated them to be, so you're hitting about a 424,000, let me get to the summary.

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And for those of you that aren't that weren't here on Tuesday, you can kind of go back and review those other slides, but you'll see a $424,000 ad valorem difference from last year to this year.

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And just to clarify, if you're taking a look at your certified tax roll, the property valuations or the market value did go up, but what increased drastically were your exemptions.

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And the big thing that hit your exemptions was which is a good portion of the decrease roughly about 143,000 is the new exemptions passed by House full 9.

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And essentially what House full 9 was gave certain business types a maximum amount in order to exempt about a maximum of $125,000.

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I sent that to y'all earlier this afternoon to kind of go over those differences.

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But so I getting blank looks across over here.

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All you need to know is your Avalorium tax due to exemptions is decreases.

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So that's a simplest way to put it.

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So you're going to, if you want to know the formulas and all of that,

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I did include that when I sent it over earlier this afternoon.

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But for the basic for layman's terms, your Avalorium tax is going to go down

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because the amount that you're allowed to exempt off of your property tax has gone up and the availability for some people to be able to have exemptions has increased due to house full line.

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So that's just what it boils down to.

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With that being said, I did move a police officer over into your economic development fund.

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So now, in your ED fund, you do not have a project funding line item, but that help offset your deficit to 454,000.

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If you move that police officer back, that deficit will then go back up to 554, roughly, 554,000.

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And so that's the big kind of change.

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And it's illustrated.

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If you go through this PowerPoint, we did put a cheat sheet chart under restructuring funds.

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it is. We put it in there, so you would be able to follow later. I do want to address the

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fourth of July. We do in our special events budget have 15,000 for a small fourth of July for

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next year. If you, the comment that was made earlier by the Alonsoz was to do it every five years

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or every year ending in zero, so every five years. You could do that event and do it safely out

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your general fund or out of your reserve fund.

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So you could operate in that capacity,

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because it's not a year in operating that you could comfortably

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take that from your ED fund line item.

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So just if that's a policy decision that y'all want to make,

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you could certainly do a larger event,

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hit your capital fund reserve if you're gonna do it every five years.

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So just something for you to know.

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But in next year's budget,

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you have 15,000 dedicated towards a small fourth of July event.

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Okay, yes. Councillor Comppos.

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Dr. Calderick, can you state just in general terms what it was running the city for the fourth of July event?

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Sure. Sure, it was, I'm trying, I'm sure I get there quickly. So it was roughly $180,000 to host the event.

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That's two pennies in your tax amount, and so when we talk quality of life, we do invest a lot in quality of life.

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We invest in our parks, our trails, our library, all of our library programs, all of that is considered quality of life.

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We have, in the past, done wristbands, we have done tickets for the event.

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We haven't necessarily charged, we did a wristband for rides.

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At one point, all of these options have been looked at in the past.

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If we charge for the event, we would have to engage the entire park in order to control ingress and egress.

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Into the park in order to charge, because we're open area park. That also does two other things.

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It will increase the number of troll officers you have at the event because we have to warn everybody coming in

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because once you get the park you become a fishbowl for from a security perspective. So if somebody

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is going to shoot you're shooting and there's no way for people to run because you've dated the

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entire park. So people have to be wanted prior to coming into the park. So we don't allow outside

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bags if it have to be clear back only and then we don't allow outside food drinks and then chairs

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can't be in that there's just certain parameters that go along with that. All of those things absolutely

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can be done. We have done that in the past. The previous council was not interested in getting

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the park. They wanted it to be like wood lawn. They wanted it to be open to the public and for

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everybody to come in. But definitely charging, I've said it from the very beginning if we charge

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one dollar to interview that would offset the budget probably by 20 to 30 thousand dollars if you just

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charge one dollar at the gate. So those are all recommendations that have been made in the past.

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They haven't been really looked at further. But if that's something the council wants to look at in

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future, I think it's something you can definitely do. That increased feed to come into the park

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would offset, because it cost a lot of money to gate the entire park. I'm going to probably

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offset that, at least that portion, because it won't be 180,000. That amount would go up substantially

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because I would need more gate to fence the entire park and a little bit more overtime for the police.

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But I do think that you could do that from your reserve fund.

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So if it was 200,000 to put off, then we got sponsorships and that was able to decrease 250,000

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with our sponsorship dollar amounts.

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You could certainly eat that in your reserve fund because it's not an ongoing operating expense.

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When you have an event that's held year after year, it should be supported by your operating revenue.

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If you continue to hit your reserve, especially in your ED fund, you would only be able to hold

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that event for three years before you ran out of economic development funds.

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So, go back to the question.

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I just wanted to add, and thank you for those suggestions I've written them down.

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We do have a coffee this coming Saturday, July 25th at the conference center from 9 to 11.

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And we have heard from a number of citizens and a lot of people were disappointed about the

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fourth of July.

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Y'all aren't the only ones, and again, it was a budgetary decision.

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It was not a political decision.

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It's not because we're not patriotic, and it's not because we don't take pride in our government.

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We do.

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We've got a former military person in Mr. Roscoe.

454
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My father was in the military for 25 years, so I was raised.

455
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:07,340
And so it was just again a budgetary, we were $1.3 million last year in the whole, okay,

456
00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:12,420
not 400, so we had to really do some cutting and that came off the chopping board.

457
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:18,480
But come Saturday, we recognized this a while back during our retreat and we said,

458
00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:25,500
let's have a formed where people can come and speak to the council after the hometown

459
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:29,960
4th of July which we had this past 4th of July and then we can talk about the big.

460
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:54,500
And then we can see what we can do. So we're open. But again, let's, you know, we might have to raise your taxes. That's what the majority of the, you know, I just, we just don't know yet. But please come. Nine o'clock this coming Saturday at the conference center. So I just wanted to put that plug in. It was during my announcements, but I thought some of you might leave. And so I wanted to let you all know. Okay? Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Trump.

461
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,140
And I do want to recognize that there was some good suggestion.

462
00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:58,900
Yes, exactly. I wrote them down.

463
00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:00,880
This suggestion. So please, it was worthwhile.

464
00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:06,100
You've been here. And I thank you for being here. Please, if you're interested in your

465
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:11,840
able to please come Saturday to share and maybe we can, other people can share other thoughts

466
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,100
and we can come up to a great conclusion. So thank you.

467
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,820
Yeah, all right. Okay. So with what? Yes, I wanted to make that point.

468
00:38:19,940 --> 00:38:24,300
Because my PowerPoint's 175 slides. I'm not going to hit on every one of those

469
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,300
as the Mayor mentioned, we're going to move on to the Interimals Fund.

470
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:33,500
So if anybody has any questions in what I sent you in regard to the general fund,

471
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,000
please let me know. Okay. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to really review it because it came

472
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,120
in late this afternoon, but I will get back with you on that. I don't know about the rest of you,

473
00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:46,840
but I mean, there's not a whole lot. I mean, you're not looking at major changes from what I presented,

474
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:53,820
but there were some changes. Okay, so moving on to Interimals Fund. So you're operating revenues

475
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:58,300
is sitting about 5.5. And for those of you that don't know what enterprise fun is for my youngsters

476
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:04,240
out there, it's your water fund, it's your water sewer and storm water fund, live in a separate kind

477
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:09,420
of governmental fund called the enterprise fund. Your operating expenses are sitting at about 4.7.

478
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:19,540
We transfer out for debt about 140, 140,000, I'm sorry. And we transfer out 1.3 for personal services

479
00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:22,020
and we're looking at spending 1.9 in capital.

480
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,380
The question always comes up,

481
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,160
what are we doing with our end pack fees?

482
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,740
The text local government code kind

483
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:32,360
of illustrates our permitted uses and prohibited uses.

484
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:37,920
This just outlines your permitted uses

485
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,940
and then your prohibited uses on what we can use in pack fees for.

486
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,540
Your enterprise fund is broken down.

487
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Excuse me, Mr. Compass has a question.

488
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:54,580
I think for the sake of the audience, you know, why do we have impact piece?

489
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:55,900
What is it really about?

490
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,700
I understand, you know, I like to tell you, it's a great illustration, but what you can use

491
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:00,040
it for.

492
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:01,600
Why do you have them?

493
00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:06,700
So impact fees are really set by new development, so when you have new developers come in, they

494
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:09,020
pay impact fees in order to set up their water system.

495
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:16,540
Those impact fees typically are only used to purchase water rights or large water infrastructure

496
00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:21,640
capital projects and so the laws very specific on what we can use those funds for but they

497
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,000
aren't residential they're not coming from the residents of Leon Valley there are from new

498
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,760
development coming in from and normally those are new developers. So your Seneca, your Sena,

499
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:38,560
your trilogy, all of those new developments pay in tech fees. Your enterprise fund and operating revenues

500
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,080
broken down in your sewer cells, your water cells, your tapping connections, your customer penalties

501
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,620
and your stormwater fees.

502
00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:50,400
Your expenses are broken down in a capital contractual personnel

503
00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:53,660
and transfers out.

504
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,440
Your stormwater, and it's kind of broken down in your expenses

505
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,300
for your stormwater water and sewer.

506
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,600
And one of the big reasons we used to group them all together,

507
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:06,400
but the big component is really to try to keep your stormwater

508
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,940
by itself because your stormwater can only be used for certain things.

509
00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:14,200
This is kind of a general summary of your entire

510
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:21,580
water fee and so in Mr. Compost's email earlier today he had questions about how we kind of

511
00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:27,440
assign your in-pack fees and so your in-pack fees live in a liability account but he's not

512
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:34,720
necessarily I mean he's not wrong. We always kind of put together in your capital somewhere somewhere

513
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:42,500
in here. In your capital outlay 140,000 for water rights and so we pay for the water rights with

514
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:50,340
your impact fees. So what we did was we're illustrating see this 140,000 here. We put it in here

515
00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:55,740
as a revenue source and you'll see it taken out as an expenditure. So just clear. But your

516
00:41:55,740 --> 00:42:00,180
impact fees normally live in your liability account. So you're not used to seeing it here.

517
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:04,560
We just pay for those water rights from your liability account. But now we have it illustrated.

518
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,400
just clear.

519
00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:14,020
Your total operating revenue is sitting at 5.5. The other big change I made.

520
00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:19,240
Oh, it's going to be on the upcoming side. So if you take a look at your water and sewer combined,

521
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:25,200
just your water and sewer, your ending fund balance is sitting at 1.7. Your storm water is sitting

522
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,180
at a negative and the big reason it is is because I haven't made a decision or not mean,

523
00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:34,340
but the council hasn't made a decision on whether or not to budget for the erosion project. So

524
00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:42,540
We all decided to do the eight you can't you wouldn't be able to do the 800,000 for the erosion project because it would fit you in the negative so you could allocate maybe

525
00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:43,860
You know

526
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:47,520
300,000 to kind of keep you out of the negative from your stormwater

527
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:54,380
But we do have to make a decision this evening so I know what to do with that amount because you can't continue to sit negative

528
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:59,080
So I need a dollar amount or a no amount so we can move forward with

529
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:02,340
With what you want to do with that?

530
00:43:03,590 --> 00:43:17,610
So if you take a look at your, just your water on your water side, you will see your water personnel, your supplies and your contractual services, here is the water rights that 140,000.

531
00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:29,590
So if you go back and look at the budget from the last time, you'll see that it's the water right impact is coming from your water supply fund balance, right? So the footnote is there now.

532
00:43:30,690 --> 00:43:31,270
Mr. Compass.

533
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:40,770
So, you know, we've had other discussions, it may have been outside of the budget, but we

534
00:43:40,770 --> 00:43:48,330
talked about the Texas Water Development grants that we're going to submit for to have

535
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:49,370
projects.

536
00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:58,810
I think valued roughly about 21 million in terms of grant funds from TWDB, and I would

537
00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:03,810
to suggest for my council's colleagues consideration that instead of

538
00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:10,070
doing allocating to 500,000 to capital, for water, and sewer that we

539
00:44:10,070 --> 00:44:16,710
reduced that to maybe 150,000 and just wait a little bit to see what

540
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:23,670
response we get from TWDB as to whether they accept our projects. Now I'm not sure

541
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:28,130
because I didn't ask this question in advance, is there any way that we can

542
00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:33,130
and then that money to the storm water to cure this deficit.

543
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:36,790
So you can't lend money to storm water,

544
00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:39,250
but you can pay for, if you wanna do the eight,

545
00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:42,210
like say you wanna do 200,000 from your storm water,

546
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:46,330
you can take the remaining balance from,

547
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:49,790
and I wouldn't take it from your water and sewer,

548
00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:51,910
but you can take it from your reserve fund.

549
00:44:52,210 --> 00:44:54,230
I mean, you can take it from another fund.

550
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:59,970
Water and sewer capital outlayer reserve items is set for your water.

551
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,440
Order and sewer projects. And shouldn't be used for erosion or flood control projects. Your stormwater can be, and that's one of the reasons we keep it separate.

552
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:22,640
But you can take a look at using either if your general fund reserve for that amount, for the other portion, so we can split it 50, 50, if that's something you would like to do.

553
00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:27,800
The other big thing is is is that we allocated $800,000.

554
00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:31,620
I don't know if you're going to spend all you $100,000,

555
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:35,280
and the big reason is, I sent you all the city engineer

556
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,460
dropwall kind of option.

557
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Once you all pick an option, I don't think the plans are going to be $800,000.

558
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,420
So I put in $800,000 because that was the original kind of conversation

559
00:45:49,420 --> 00:45:54,080
the council had last year when we were talking about the project. But depending on what option

560
00:45:54,080 --> 00:46:00,520
you pick, the project may be upwards of a million dollars. And you don't have that, but the idea was to

561
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:06,220
get the option so I could either grow out for grant funds or look at other stakeholders that

562
00:46:06,220 --> 00:46:13,600
could possibly help us offset the cost for the project itself. But to pick a plan, I don't know if it's

563
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,380
going to be 800,000 or how much more the engineering is going to cost for said plan because I don't

564
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:20,680
what option you're picking.

565
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,300
So I don't know if you want to reduce it to like 300,000.

566
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,520
And then if the engineering for the option comes in higher,

567
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,580
then you would take the remaining from one of the other

568
00:46:33,580 --> 00:46:35,680
reserve accounts, whether it's your ED reserve fund,

569
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,000
whether it's your general fund reserve,

570
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,000
or trying to think if there's another fund.

571
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:46,260
But I wouldn't take it from your water or sewer fund.

572
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:46,640
Okay.

573
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,480
Did you share me?

574
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:55,500
I would recommend, again, lowering the 500,000 for capital for sewer and water down to

575
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:56,100
150.

576
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:03,120
Just in case we have some type of emergency needs that repairs for water or sewer.

577
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:10,780
But I'd like, just this is just my opinion, I'd like to get off center with this erosion

578
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:18,340
problem and start if we leave it at 800 and we don't use it. It'll roll over, right?

579
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:25,900
And so let's let's fund from the capital reserve from the general fund to make up the difference.

580
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:33,520
Okay. My recommendation, I think we just, I think there may be members of the council here

581
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:39,500
that not we're not part of the original discussion and we need to present it to them and then let's

582
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,960
make a decision once and for all. I know my colleague, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

583
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,640
counselor or Russell, he voice that, you know, you know, we need to do something.

584
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:53,280
We've, we've already spent a number of dollars, but we need to make a decision.

585
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,560
I think in this coming fiscal year, we're a quarter of a million dollars.

586
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Well, yes, I'd like us to revisit all those options so that we can, you know, ask

587
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,300
questions and then make an educated decision. But, uh, and I'll not be rushed tonight. I don't think.

588
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:12,440
It's not rush tonight to pick a plan, you can't sit negative in your stormwater account.

589
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,780
So, right, so you need to cure that.

590
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:17,580
I just need to know what the percentage is to cure it.

591
00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:22,760
Do you want to go to the absolute zero and just move the 83,000 in offset that in your

592
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,120
general fund reserve and keep the cost of those options at 800,000?

593
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,760
Do you want to reduce that to 300,000?

594
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,100
And then if we hit that amount, if we hit more than that than I would come back for budget adjustment,

595
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:38,960
But you can't stay at a negative 83,000 sitting there.

596
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,140
So that's what I need to cure this evening's the number, correct.

597
00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:45,440
The second thing is, is I need consensus for the 150,000.

598
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,980
So I heard from Mr. Compo said to reduce the capital outlay for both water and sewer,

599
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:54,260
to, I'm, each account right, Mr. Compo's to 150,000.

600
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,080
So it is everybody in agreement with that.

601
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,060
So I can make that change.

602
00:48:57,860 --> 00:49:03,060
So the other, the, the, the balance will go back to the reserve.

603
00:49:03,060 --> 00:49:10,120
Or, you know what I'm saying. In other words, we have 500,000. So if we reduce it to 150, then it's just going to

604
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:16,460
with back to our reserve just in case there's an emergency. That would just be right for the water and sewer for the water and sewer.

605
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:23,180
So the different, we budget typically a half a million dollars and with water main replacements and sewer main replacements.

606
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:28,060
And that's normally either done because we have a project or plans geared up.

607
00:49:28,060 --> 00:49:34,780
the only project I have is about 88,000 for engineering service to start doing the engineering

608
00:49:34,780 --> 00:49:39,340
for phase two of the water project. So that's one of the ones that are sitting there.

609
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,840
But we do have our system as old. We do have main breaks and the guys do work on their

610
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,740
shoe reliance.

611
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:53,040
So we do use those funds for offset. Those kinds of repairs throughout the year.

612
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:59,660
But you can reduce them and if we have a large break, then we would come to you for a budget adjustment.

613
00:50:00,060 --> 00:50:06,720
But just to know on the record, if we have a main break on Bander Road, it is not a question for the council.

614
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,960
I would just, we would just make the repair and then come to council later.

615
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,240
But it would be a large break, significant water loss.

616
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:21,800
But that's why Melinda was sitting around a half a million dollars on both for those types of things that would occur.

617
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,460
because they do occur. We've had some, it'll be in the reserve,

618
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,280
and you could eat it. I mean, okay, we'll just adjust it.

619
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:32,900
But you can, uh, and also that's, I guess I heard in your comment

620
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,520
because we're hopeful that we're going to get some grant money.

621
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,900
Right. Right. And how much do we have outstanding

622
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:44,760
that may come in as a grant money? Do we know that? Well, we don't know for 21 million.

623
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,920
Right. Well, we up to 21 to 21 million last meetings. So, yes,

624
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:55,020
So you're last meeting and gave us the authority to apply for the right. I don't know we'll get a nickel from that.

625
00:50:55,740 --> 00:51:02,240
Yeah. But essentially what we normally do, if you take a look at your budget, you have 500,000 sitting here for improvements.

626
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,960
And so we try to use those funds for improvements.

627
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:12,760
But if you drop it down to 150,000, that would allow me to go for the plans, which is 88,000 ago for the plans for priority one on the water side.

628
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,680
because that's the next kind of I would like to have those plans in order to submit them as an

629
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,080
addendum to our grant to show that we have plans available for that to help us get more points

630
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:28,180
in the allocation of the grant. But this this is where we're sitting. So I think I'm here

631
00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:33,740
it's seen head nod, y'all are okay with 150,000 but for both the water and the sewer even as a

632
00:51:33,740 --> 00:51:39,960
sewer is not part of the grant for any water. So I just want to clarify that yes Councillor Marshal.

633
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120
I'm okay with reducing it to 150.

634
00:51:42,860 --> 00:51:44,760
Okay, and Councillor Roscoh.

635
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:45,520
Put 150?

636
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,280
Yes.

637
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,400
From 250.

638
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,040
From 500,000.

639
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:49,680
From 500,000 to 100,000.

640
00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:50,220
Yes, ma'am.

641
00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:50,780
I don't know what that.

642
00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:51,660
Okay, great.

643
00:51:51,980 --> 00:51:52,220
All right.

644
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:52,860
Yes, not.

645
00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:53,420
Councillor Roscoh.

646
00:51:54,020 --> 00:51:55,100
Okay, very good.

647
00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:59,880
See, so then that means there's going to be no, like even small water and sewer projects for

648
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,060
next year, as far as the geared towards projects.

649
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:04,140
Oh, great.

650
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:05,700
Well, I mean, again.

651
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:06,580
Well, I mean, it comes up.

652
00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:09,340
Yeah, we have it in the reserve fund if we need it.

653
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,440
correct but we're not going what I'm saying is is I'm not coming back to you with

654
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,460
priority two and saying hey here you go unless we have an emergency. I just want to

655
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:21,740
make that clear so when you get residents that call and say hey when the next one

656
00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:27,220
I'm ready for my project or that's going to be my responses. We're only doing the

657
00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:29,820
for priority 2 is the next phase.

658
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,840
We don't have a project geared up for next year.

659
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,460
Just plans for private arts. Water, water, only, water, only.

660
00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:47,000
And the only thing else that I can think of that can change is that if our staff is very talented

661
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:53,440
and have written for grants and we've received a number of them.

662
00:52:53,440 --> 00:53:04,140
And so it would change if we received the grant during that fiscal year, but we would at least have some money to go against.

663
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:10,480
So like if we applied for a seat, let's say a new CDBG round came up and I could be paid for the typically on a CDBG grant.

664
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:13,620
We paid for the engineering costs for that.

665
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,360
And the plans for a set project if a grant were to come available.

666
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:23,420
Yes, I would come back for budget adjustment and then also for you to authorize me to go for set grants.

667
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,760
and that would come from your reserve funds. I don't see that impacting us going for grants or

668
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:33,040
future CDBG funds or any of that, we would come back for budget adjustment. I would not miss an

669
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,520
opportunity for grant because I don't have the money in the budget, but if we were to get a grant,

670
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,700
we would definitely go to Councillor Rosca. Dr. Caldera on those grants that we get, we used to,

671
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:47,960
I mean, we have to put some money in ourselves as well, don't we? Yeah, so for CDBG for the CDBG funds,

672
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,880
yes, we have to pay for the engineering costs, correct? Okay, and we... It's some other grant funds you

673
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,900
you have to pay a percentage for the Texas development

674
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:55,900
at Waterboard Grant, there's no match, right?

675
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,600
All right, okay.

676
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:57,420
That's nice.

677
00:53:57,540 --> 00:53:58,020
Thank you.

678
00:53:58,020 --> 00:53:59,360
That's 100%.

679
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,540
That's why we're optimistic.

680
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,700
We're going to get some money.

681
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,260
I'm hoping that we do.

682
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:04,260
I wish.

683
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:05,220
Yes, sir.

684
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:06,120
Go ahead, Mr. Compass.

685
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,740
And by going through a budget adjustment,

686
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,460
it shouldn't be a neck on any staff member

687
00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:15,140
in the city manager because I just want to remind

688
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:17,980
my colleagues here.

689
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,020
This is one of the questions I had.

690
00:54:20,020 --> 00:54:23,980
When we first adopted the water and sewer budget last year,

691
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,800
we didn't expect to do some of the projects we did.

692
00:54:28,340 --> 00:54:32,800
And we did one, two, three, four, five, six, seven projects.

693
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:36,780
That's, we had a very healthy fund balance.

694
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:43,240
But we made budget adjustments because we had some opportunities to do some of these projects.

695
00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:48,360
And she named them in the questions that the responses I got back.

696
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:54,640
the Alberti water line project with the purchase of water rights, replacement of water

697
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:01,380
mains, amy way, replacement of sewer mains, cynical west drainage, and there was one

698
00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:05,580
forest oak sewer main, I think, is the name of it cut off of my sheet here.

699
00:55:06,860 --> 00:55:12,280
But so having to come back, I mean, don't, I don't think that's going to be held

700
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,100
against anybody.

701
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:22,380
Yeah, so budget adjustments typically the way we don't like to do budget adjustments and one of the big reasons from like the management perspective of why we don't do budget adjustments

702
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:30,020
It looks like you didn't budget appropriately right like when you come back for budget adjustments it looks but in this particular case because it's your enterprise fund and you're not having

703
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:38,560
As healthy of a balance as you have before and we're waiting to see the results of the Texas development and what as a lot of cities are there's a lot of cities going for this grant

704
00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:44,060
And so, in this particular case, that's where we're geared up.

705
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,720
Now, my plan is in the future, and I've had this conversation a couple of times with y'all,

706
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:49,500
including the retreat.

707
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:54,620
I would like to break down once the council votes on the plan, which over the next three months,

708
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,400
David's going to bring back to y'all.

709
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:03,040
Then each year, you won't get 500,000 in water means they will be broken down into projects.

710
00:56:03,220 --> 00:56:06,500
And then you will have a certain amount set aside for emergency breaks.

711
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:17,440
We're not there yet, we just barely got the plans and the priorities from the engineer and so David's working out to kind of cross them with their street maintenance.

712
00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:32,500
And so we're going through a couple of drafts right now to be able to present that to y'all. Once you all vote on that in your net hopefully in your next year's budget those 500,000 will actually be broken down into real projects versus budget adjustment related projects.

713
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,680
Okay. Councillor Huyel.

714
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:38,740
Is the 21 million it's not one big grant.

715
00:56:38,740 --> 00:56:40,560
It's going to be broken up to different cities.

716
00:56:40,780 --> 00:56:41,160
Is that correct?

717
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960
No. We're going for 21 million.

718
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:47,520
The federal government, I forget the dollar amount.

719
00:56:47,660 --> 00:56:48,620
It's like $4 billion.

720
00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:50,140
A million dollars.

721
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,640
But we've had this grant is quite complicated.

722
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,420
Because it's a federal grant.

723
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,520
There's a lot of criteria and a lot of cities going.

724
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:29,600
I mean, on one call, in order to review how the grant was going to work, there was 400 people on that one call, and they've had multiple calls. So it is a very extensive competitive grant. Our engineers are the ones really kind of putting together the grant application on RB half. And so we're very hopeful. Hopefully we can hit all the criteria for that grant application, but plans are a big part of that. And one of the big reasons I wanted to spend the 88,000 for this priority to is.

725
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,700
I could probably submit an Addendum 2 said grant to show that we have that set of plans

726
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:36,980
and try to maximize the number of points we get in that category.

727
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:50,400
I'm going to move on now to your stormwater fund, sorry.

728
00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:56,920
We can talk a little bit about the 800,000, just kind of getting your input on, do you want

729
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:03,300
put 400,000 here and 400,000 in your capital, reserve fund kind of what I'm going to kick you off,

730
00:58:03,460 --> 00:58:05,460
what are your thoughts on that kind of split?

731
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Or do you want to zero out your stormwater fund

732
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,640
and then I put 83,000 over into your reserve fund. This is what we have in our stormwater at the

733
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:22,580
800,000. That's what your budgeted for your erosion project. That's in there, ready to go,

734
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:28,700
if we, right? No. So, well it's in there now, but you'll go negative 83,000 dollars.

735
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:32,840
I understand, but we have it in there at this far's line item, you know.

736
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Yes, Mr. Composculine.

737
00:58:34,340 --> 00:58:43,360
I don't see the harm of putting the 800,000, and then subsidizing the 23 to 0 it out for the

738
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:43,900
stormwater.

739
00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:45,960
I don't see it down side to it.

740
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,700
If we don't use it all, it'll be returned to the stormwater reserve.

741
00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:50,540
Right.

742
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:51,520
Yeah.

743
00:58:52,140 --> 00:58:54,180
So we don't use the 800,000.

744
00:58:54,340 --> 00:58:58,280
Well, it's 800,000 in your city, negative 83, right?

745
00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:01,320
So, let me go back to that slide.

746
00:59:02,780 --> 00:59:04,340
So we're going to just take it from the research.

747
00:59:04,820 --> 00:59:10,060
So what I'm saying is, I won't budget, well, I'm trying to figure out the best way to do that.

748
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,380
I can budget the 800,000 and take this 83,000 from your reserve fund.

749
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:16,240
So it looks balanced.

750
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:18,080
We can even make it simpler.

751
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,460
Why don't we just make the 800, 700?

752
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:21,820
Right, that's what I'm asking.

753
00:59:21,860 --> 00:59:22,500
Let's just do that.

754
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:22,920
Right.

755
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,260
Interesting.

756
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,440
You don't have to do it.

757
00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:25,360
Just clean.

758
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:30,360
that's what I'm asking. So I just some people are not some people, but they don't like to see

759
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,620
zero in a reserve fund. So if you don't want to see zero, just it's more observational than anything,

760
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:42,120
then you could do 400 or if you don't want to hit your reserve fund recommendation because storm

761
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,340
water funds can only be used for certain types of things. And this is one of the things. So I'm

762
00:59:46,340 --> 00:59:54,780
agreement that you could zero out this account and we could do 700,000 and just leave it

763
00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:58,300
at that and if we need more money then we would come from that from a budget if that's

764
00:59:58,300 --> 00:59:59,040
what you all want to do.

765
00:59:59,140 --> 00:59:59,980
Is everyone agree about it?

766
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Okay, and then we won't be in the negative. Okay, very good.

767
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:10,140
I just say going into my reserve fund, but I'm okay with that.

768
01:00:11,620 --> 01:00:13,960
Okay. Moving the numbers.

769
01:00:16,330 --> 01:00:18,450
All right. It's better. Yep.

770
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:26,210
So for the most part, I think you'll be sitting pretty clean for your water and sewer fund. Now that we made that adjustment on your storm water fund.

771
01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:31,750
I do want to, so I'm going to move past the Enterprise Fund unless you'll have, I'm trying

772
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:34,890
to keep this portion of the presentation since it's a council meeting and we have a lot

773
01:00:34,890 --> 01:00:39,430
items to less than an hour. So, do you guys anybody have any other questions on the Enterprise

774
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:43,910
Fund other than the ones that I've addressed? You know, okay, I'm going to move over to the Red

775
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:49,790
Light Camera Fund. You're Red Light Camera Fund is showing a budgeted balance. I am, I did

776
01:00:49,790 --> 01:00:54,250
take up your red light camera fines because the way we're tracking this year.

777
01:00:55,770 --> 01:00:59,790
So your total revenue for next year's sitting at 2.4.

778
01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:04,050
Your personnel services is still sitting at 1.9.

779
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:07,690
And your ending fund balance is sitting at 502.

780
01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:11,070
Mr. Compass.

781
01:01:11,290 --> 01:01:18,610
So I'd just like to give a little history is that the red light camera has been used to fund

782
01:01:18,610 --> 01:01:23,550
police officers, and it's out of our general fund, so we don't have a deficit.

783
01:01:24,250 --> 01:01:31,830
That contract's ending in 2037, and we have this year moved two officers out of this

784
01:01:31,830 --> 01:01:36,870
redlight camera into the general fund and one into the ED, is that?

785
01:01:37,050 --> 01:01:43,450
No, so I moved both of them into the general fund, and then I moved one police officer into

786
01:01:43,450 --> 01:01:48,930
your EDCD fund. I mean, you can look at that as me doing that, I guess, but essentially what

787
01:01:48,930 --> 01:01:53,230
our original did was take your two traffic safety officers that are funded by Red Light

788
01:01:53,230 --> 01:01:58,950
Camera, put them into general fund. I restructured your percentages over and then I moved

789
01:01:58,950 --> 01:02:06,470
an additional police officer into your EDCD fund as a community resources officer. So, essentially,

790
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:18,590
What I hear is what my point is, is that there's still a million, 99,000 dollars in police officers that are still within this red light camera.

791
01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:28,910
And, you know, I just want to point this out that we're trying to win herself off of this red light camera before it expires and we need to have a plan.

792
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:36,890
So even when it looks like, well, hey, it's simple as taking it out of the reserve, it's more complicated than that, okay?

793
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:42,210
I'm just trying to illustrate that. And there's still what six officers still covered.

794
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:45,850
So there's six officers still covered at the end of your red light camera, though.

795
01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:49,330
I think it's really only four because you're administrative hearing officers.

796
01:02:50,010 --> 01:02:54,830
David's going to have a different argument than he would like to keep those two patrol officers as patrol officers,

797
01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:58,130
but there's two administrative hearing officers technically can go with the contract, right?

798
01:02:58,130 --> 01:03:10,030
So then it's really form of you know, but you don't just have officers there. You have a portion of a court salary, my salary, finance director salary portions of those salaries are coming out of the red light camera funds. So it's not just those four officers.

799
01:03:10,310 --> 01:03:18,550
If you take a look at the end of your slideshow presentation for the budget, you'll see the splits still remaining in your red light camera fund that you're going to have to account for at some point.

800
01:03:18,830 --> 01:03:24,290
Because even though even if the perspective is to cut police officers, you can't cut your finance director.

801
01:03:24,290 --> 01:03:31,690
So you're going to have to move her salary over into general fund or that portion of her salary that's being paid out of there over into your general fund.

802
01:03:32,410 --> 01:03:38,790
Excuse me, can I ask you how much does that total for all of the split salaries?

803
01:03:39,570 --> 01:03:47,630
In other words, 10% for the court clerk, do we have a total, your salary?

804
01:03:47,630 --> 01:03:53,220
I mean, it all sold us to a million 99,000.

805
01:03:53,260 --> 01:03:54,940
Oh, that's what you're okay.

806
01:03:55,020 --> 01:04:00,900
So just for the person, just for personal, not the person, not the police officers, just

807
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:01,220
the person.

808
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:07,560
All personnel including police, so any dollar amount, any dollar amount included, including

809
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:17,480
police remaining in that budget, it personnel is that amount, but I was trying not to do

810
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:24,680
police and just do with the balance of everybody else to see if we can win, win us off that, you know,

811
01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:30,140
gradually. Well, that's what we're doing. So the reason I touched police first because there

812
01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:40,080
are $100,000 a hit. Where our splits can be eventually offset into your enterprise fund. And so that's

813
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:45,300
solution, not maybe a back to the enterprise one, which we've already taken y'all on.

814
01:04:46,940 --> 01:04:51,380
But that isn't, when you're looking, so I mean at some point, you're going to have your,

815
01:04:51,380 --> 01:04:54,920
you're not going to be able to raise your property tax all the way up to 90 cents, right?

816
01:04:55,180 --> 01:04:57,560
That's a ridiculous conclusion to draw.

817
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:06,160
So I'm trying everything I can to help mitigate your property tax rate and not move everybody

818
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,240
and do your general fund because that will impact your, your, your, your, your ad valorem tax rate, right?

819
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,280
If you're trying to, a compass all of that, or your, your sales tax, right?

820
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:21,200
And it's unrealistic for me to say that we're going to generate in the next five years, an absorbent

821
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,200
amount of sales tax dollars to offset your general fund.

822
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,820
That's, that's wishful thinking more than it is a rational thought.

823
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:34,440
And so, what I'm trying to do is we move the police first, your administrative staff,

824
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:42,300
technically can be split into other funds and you do have some crime control money that could be there and you have a

825
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:49,180
little bit of other funds that we can help with that over the next couple of years. I'm just doing it piece by piece.

826
01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:55,540
So this year we took two. We moved people in the 80 CD fund. We've restructured the general fund as I went through last

827
01:05:55,540 --> 01:06:03,000
council meeting and this is where you're currently sitting. You're still sitting at $452,000 in the

828
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,720
with me making those structural moves.

829
01:06:06,660 --> 01:06:11,600
So again, it's just a matter of what the council is willing to do,

830
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:13,580
what cuts you're willing to make.

831
01:06:14,260 --> 01:06:14,680
Yes, Councillor.

832
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:15,480
Compass.

833
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:22,020
And so one of the reasons for taking them out of the enterprise fund

834
01:06:22,580 --> 01:06:26,260
in a prior city manager to me,

835
01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:31,440
would just balance the budget by just charging the enterprise fund

836
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:39,300
for any deficit that I saw in my opinion, okay, but it was unfair because only two-thirds

837
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:43,960
of the Leon Valley residents actually use this enterprise fund.

838
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:50,100
So everybody that has sauce water and sewer, it was not, it didn't affect us.

839
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:56,480
And so it was burdening to me the citizens that had Leon Valley water.

840
01:06:56,620 --> 01:07:00,300
That's why we moved to make it more equitable to what?

841
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:08,460
What was the actual utilization of their time to be reflected within the enterprise one correct?

842
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,620
And then my phone a friend back here told me for every book all other person else 357

843
01:07:15,340 --> 01:07:18,440
$357,000 okay excluding the police

844
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:24,320
Thank you. That's what I wanted to know thank you 357,000 okay, but then you'd have to be prepared to cut police

845
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,980
Right, I mean that's the alternate understand. It's 1.9 for everything, but three hundred fifty seven

846
01:07:30,860 --> 01:07:45,280
No, it's not one point, one point nine includes all of your, all of your expenditures in personnel. Okay, expenditures and personnel. You have, in that one point nine, you have contractual services, you have your capital outlay.

847
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,240
But all your personnel services in currently in your relic camera is 739

848
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,760
But then you move over into

849
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:09,650
Yeah, I was trying to get there. Sorry. Oh, it's at the very beginning. So if you go to your summary general fun side. Sorry. It's like a hundred slides back

850
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:19,430
You will see the total amount for all your personal services that are over there that are pulled into your relic camera. So 357000 plus your

851
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:27,410
or 700 and whatever city, no, there's 700, yes, thank you, I'm sorry, I was trying not

852
01:08:27,410 --> 01:08:33,590
to go all the way back in the savings of time, yeah, there it is, sorry, there you go,

853
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:38,820
keeps

854
01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:42,060
it, yeah, yeah, it means, yes,

855
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,660
traffic safety, we went over, and we've cleared out the

856
01:08:48,660 --> 01:08:54,020
personal services from there, we've gone over the detail in your traffic safety and

857
01:08:54,020 --> 01:08:59,100
your red light cameras? I don't know if you want me to kind of go through what we have over there

858
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:05,480
now but essentially sitting in your traffic safety from your contractual services is broken down

859
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:15,360
in detail. So it's important to note that even though some of these items you're going to have to

860
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:20,700
figure out how to pay for them out of your general fund. So it's not just personal services you're

861
01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:28,680
right, you pay your city audit out of this account. That 8% percentage that correct. You're

862
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:34,700
pay $8,000 of it is going to have to move over to your reserve fund. We pay a portion of

863
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:39,080
tech lead in this account. That would have to move over to your general fund. But then you're not

864
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:48,760
going to be paying your ATS contract, right? So it's just important to note that any time we develop

865
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:54,180
of fun that has revenue sources, we do our best to be creative to make sure that we're not hitting

866
01:09:54,180 --> 01:09:58,140
your general fund reserve. And over the last 10 years with Red Light cameras has really

867
01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:06,960
offset the impact into your general fund reserve that you're going to have to encompass between

868
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,020
now in 2037.

869
01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:16,590
The big capital item sitting over here in your traffic safety is a patrol vehicle

870
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:20,930
And then in your red light camera, do we put a car over there?

871
01:10:21,170 --> 01:10:23,230
No, just one vehicle.

872
01:10:24,330 --> 01:10:24,690
Just one.

873
01:10:25,950 --> 01:10:27,890
Your crime control prevention fund.

874
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:31,050
Your revenue sitting at 446,000.

875
01:10:31,070 --> 01:10:32,830
Your expenditure sitting at 444.

876
01:10:33,870 --> 01:10:36,690
This is your personnel services sitting at,

877
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:40,930
Expendentures sitting at 276,000.

878
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:42,910
Your supplies is 11,000.

879
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:45,030
Your contractual services, 73,000.

880
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:49,710
in your capital outlay sitting at 223,000 are anticipated revenue

881
01:10:49,710 --> 01:10:53,430
and this fund is sitting at 446,000.

882
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:56,070
We do shared personal services of 83,000

883
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:58,190
that amount could move over in your general fund

884
01:10:58,190 --> 01:11:00,910
in order to support a police officer.

885
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:05,060
This is the breakdown of your expenditures.

886
01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:09,160
We go into great detail on how each dollar and penny is spent.

887
01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:13,670
And we break it down even more.

888
01:11:14,130 --> 01:11:16,970
Here's the forensic testing that we talked about earlier.

889
01:11:16,970 --> 01:11:22,410
We try our best to not have to use that fun, but we do have to budget for that fun.

890
01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:28,230
The big expenses in this fund are dealing with your CAD system, your axon tasers, your

891
01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:34,850
vehicle and body cam, our radio airtime, are the big contractual service dollar amounts that

892
01:11:34,850 --> 01:11:35,830
come out of this account.

893
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:40,010
We are looking at replacing one detective vehicle.

894
01:11:40,350 --> 01:11:44,730
There is 50,000 sitting in four-year flood cameras that isn't coming in from your operating

895
01:11:44,730 --> 01:11:45,430
expense.

896
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:52,410
This is also not coming in from your general fund reserve. So when we talk about the flood cameras and whether or not that can support the 4th of July

897
01:11:52,410 --> 01:12:01,230
The answer to that is no because the 50,000 is coming from your crime control prevention district fund, and then you can't use those funds to pay for 4th of July

898
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:06,740
Is that whether renewal of the flood is here?

899
01:12:06,980 --> 01:12:16,580
We got a grant for the first year of this year. Correct. The council authorized just to sign it to your contract. You're one is paid for grant. You're two. It would come out of your

900
01:12:16,580 --> 01:12:24,540
You're a crime control crime control, okay, for sure. But yes, maybe. And then your property room plans are sitting at a 100,000 in this account

901
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:29,240
Moving on to your do you have any questions on crime control crime control prevention?

902
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:34,700
How you can use those funds? Why you can't pay for 4th of July with these funds and any questions are heard to that, okay?

903
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:41,140
Moving on to your community center fund your operating revenue sitting at a 100,000 your expenditure is just sitting at a 100,000

904
01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:51,560
Sorry, what we did here is we moved your rental fees over in your EDCD fund in order to support personnel services.

905
01:12:52,180 --> 01:12:57,280
The only revenue source coming in for this budget is going to be your hotel motel tax.

906
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:08,080
Your personnel services is sitting at 37,000. Again, we move the percentage of Miss Miranda over into your EDCD fund.

907
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,480
So this will be the remaining amount of her salary.

908
01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:18,700
Your capital outlay is 160,000 for the restrooms of the conference center.

909
01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:22,820
I do feel that you have enough this year sitting in your reserve fund to be able to do that.

910
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,120
You will leave you 183,000 if something goes wrong.

911
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,380
We do have a couple of weeks at the conference center roof.

912
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,320
So we may have to look at the near future of replacing that roof at the conference center.

913
01:13:37,170 --> 01:13:43,650
Your community center expenditure detail. This is like a general summary. We get into very

914
01:13:43,650 --> 01:13:50,850
Detail including toilet repairs and light fixtures and kitchen appliance repairs, janitorial services and chair cleaning

915
01:13:52,270 --> 01:13:57,670
miscellaneous window cleaning, those kinds of things depending on the usage. So we budget for chair cleaning

916
01:13:57,670 --> 01:14:03,610
We budget for very big deep cleaning, but it also depends on your renters. So some years like this year

917
01:14:03,610 --> 01:14:05,410
we haven't really had a

918
01:14:05,950 --> 01:14:09,230
a bad renter where we needed to bring people in.

919
01:14:09,390 --> 01:14:11,510
We've had renters that have destroyed our

920
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:15,470
restrooms, broken toilets, feces, kind of situations.

921
01:14:15,670 --> 01:14:18,810
And I have to bring an outside contractor in to kind of do those

922
01:14:18,810 --> 01:14:21,490
repair public horses and going to do that.

923
01:14:21,650 --> 01:14:23,670
Those types of repairs and clean up.

924
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:27,530
This year we haven't had that kind of issue.

925
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:30,070
So it's up to when we talk about whether or not we're going to

926
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:33,310
spend those funds or the cleaning in house was enough this year.

927
01:14:33,470 --> 01:14:34,430
So far it has been.

928
01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:40,650
We do need to do some chair cleaning, which we may do before the end of the fiscal year, if not,

929
01:14:41,270 --> 01:14:43,570
though it will be early at the beginning of next year.

930
01:14:47,170 --> 01:14:49,750
But so that is your community center fund.

931
01:14:49,790 --> 01:14:55,350
Again, we have 160 sitting over there for the restrooms. Moving on to any questions on your community

932
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:58,970
center fund. That I can see. No.

933
01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:08,280
And the hotel mototax that we get in revenue as you can see is because the next question will be, will can you use Fourth of July out of those funds?

934
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:16,100
Hotel mototax could possibly be used for Fourth of July because it's a tourist type event. You just don't have money.

935
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:25,680
And you're coming in. They literally make enough money to cover repairs, maintenance, and the operations, utilities of those buildings. You don't have a healthy reserve from there.

936
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,960
you normally sit around 300,000, I think is a highest of seen it in the last couple of years.

937
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,360
And we use that for big repairs on those buildings.

938
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,000
Your straight maintenance tax fund,

939
01:15:39,260 --> 01:15:40,720
this account gets zeroed out.

940
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,080
We are going to tie some projects to Mayor.

941
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,020
Oh, I'm sorry.

942
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,300
I was making a note about straight maintenance zero out.

943
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:50,860
Just so I don't.

944
01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:51,160
Yes.

945
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:52,000
Councillor.

946
01:15:52,340 --> 01:15:52,580
Yes.

947
01:15:52,580 --> 01:15:59,440
the street maintenance, again, this is related to a sales tax funded revenue stream.

948
01:16:00,420 --> 01:16:08,720
Here's where, you know, we had talked about a consultant for $20,000 to oversee some

949
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:15,180
capital projects, and I'm wondering whether or not this would be a fit for that, for an

950
01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:19,620
outside contractor to monitor our street maintenance program.

951
01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:27,420
Yes, yes, I was just going to suggest that as a consideration for that that I thought it wasn't for streets

952
01:16:27,420 --> 01:16:34,620
I thought it was for the water project if we get funding so I had put in 20,000 for project management

953
01:16:34,620 --> 01:16:41,880
I removed I didn't it's got anything and the original idea that I had for the 20,000 was for Melinda to help with the erosion project

954
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:46,080
If the council voted to do the erosion project because David's play is a little fool

955
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,100
we've got lots of projects.

956
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,920
The second part to that is if we were to get the Texas

957
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,660
Development Water Board grant, I would need help.

958
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,740
I mean, if we're turning out all of those projects,

959
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,780
but that's a separate kind of issue

960
01:16:57,780 --> 01:16:59,540
that would handle within those grant funds

961
01:16:59,540 --> 01:17:00,660
and within that dollar amount.

962
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,300
But yes, if we're moving and grooving

963
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:05,160
through your street maintenance projects,

964
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:09,240
we could bring a consultant to help assist

965
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,240
from a project management perspective here.

966
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,060
I'm pretty sure you could use the fund

967
01:17:16,060 --> 01:17:19,860
for that just like a paper engineer for the maintenance portion. So as long as it's dealing with the maintenance,

968
01:17:20,380 --> 01:17:26,080
the millen overlay portion of it, you could. The big question is going to be what streets we're going to

969
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:31,060
do, and I'm trying to cross reference your streets. So we don't have a sewer project kind of like what we

970
01:17:31,060 --> 01:17:37,180
didn't enforce area and do a patch job. I'm trying to do an overlay of your street project and conjunction

971
01:17:37,180 --> 01:17:42,100
with your water and sewer projects. And David's got when you see this spreadsheet, it's a really cool

972
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:44,120
spreadsheet, it's a project management spreadsheet.

973
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,380
I've just, it's in draft form, so I haven't provided it to y'all yet.

974
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,340
But it overlays your street maintenance priorities with your water and sewer priorities.

975
01:17:53,780 --> 01:17:59,680
And then when you, again, when you vote on that plan, we will section off your street maintenance.

976
01:17:59,740 --> 01:18:05,600
And it may be that you build this reserve fund as, as we wait on these water projects.

977
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,860
So you'll have the money to do it if that makes sense.

978
01:18:08,860 --> 01:18:15,420
but you will see the panel go over all of that with you. And then you as a body will make that decision on how you want to handle that.

979
01:18:19,050 --> 01:18:26,710
Special revenue funds. I think last time we did this general slide. I've given you all more detail in your special revenue funds

980
01:18:26,710 --> 01:18:32,890
a request from Mr. Combos. So we'll go off in your Leo's fund. Your Leo's fund can only be used for training of your police.

981
01:18:32,890 --> 01:18:36,070
We have that pretty much zeroed out.

982
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:38,270
We send our police officers training.

983
01:18:39,090 --> 01:18:41,190
We go through that dollar amount pretty quickly.

984
01:18:41,250 --> 01:18:46,810
This cannot be used for anything other than what's dictated to us by a Senate Bill 1135.

985
01:18:47,650 --> 01:18:51,450
And to down here, like eligible expenses of some equipment, some tuition,

986
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:53,470
subscription, travel expenses, etc.

987
01:18:56,330 --> 01:18:59,230
Your next special revenue fund is your court building security fund.

988
01:18:59,370 --> 01:19:02,450
Again, legislation gives us direction on how we can spend it.

989
01:19:02,450 --> 01:19:08,030
We can spend it on extra machines, walk through metal detectors, handheld metal detectors, lock chains.

990
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:22,330
A lot of these funds are used for like baylift computers in the judge's office, the one thing breaks.

991
01:19:22,330 --> 01:19:33,600
We have to replace it that's usually with this fund as used for child safety funds can only be used for your school crossing guard.

992
01:19:34,340 --> 01:19:39,060
We have been vacant, so if anybody's looking at being a school crossing, we're, oh, Miss Alonzo left.

993
01:19:39,820 --> 01:19:41,120
School crossing guard.

994
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,040
We're looking for school crossing guard.

995
01:19:43,060 --> 01:19:45,500
Please apply the job as on our website.

996
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,020
But this is what this fund is used for.

997
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,160
That's your detail.

998
01:19:52,380 --> 01:19:53,680
You're municipal court technology.

999
01:19:54,220 --> 01:19:56,040
We use this fund for different things.

1000
01:19:56,380 --> 01:19:57,720
Usually broken receipt machines.

1001
01:20:02,090 --> 01:20:02,250
Oops.

1002
01:20:02,410 --> 01:20:03,130
Try and get to local.

1003
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:05,550
We use it for this year.

1004
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:07,730
We use it for your signature pads.

1005
01:20:07,730 --> 01:20:15,770
We needed to upgrade your signature pads when you sign for and court and so that's what we use the money for this year.

1006
01:20:16,050 --> 01:20:16,930
Yes, sir.

1007
01:20:16,930 --> 01:20:18,250
I can't say compass.

1008
01:20:21,190 --> 01:20:25,590
Is there any allocation for our encode that's in this court technology?

1009
01:20:26,270 --> 01:20:26,570
Yes, sir.

1010
01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:31,410
So I did put in 8500 as a portion of that their expenditure.

1011
01:20:31,670 --> 01:20:33,790
That's one of the contracts I don't know if it's in here.

1012
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:34,850
8500.

1013
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:36,450
Yes,

1014
01:20:39,650 --> 01:20:39,650
sir.

1015
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:48,490
your refunding bond and your CFO. That's currently your outstanding debt. This is your debt fund.

1016
01:20:51,270 --> 01:21:00,690
And here are the kind of 2016 CFO and then your geo refunding bond.

1017
01:21:01,410 --> 01:21:03,510
And so that's your expenditure sitting at 685.

1018
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:11,090
Your police forfeiture, again, this is dictated to us on how we can spend it by the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure Chapter 59.

1019
01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:20,010
We can only use this to pay for equipment for law enforcement, community outreach, officer training, law enforcement objectives.

1020
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:27,810
We do have personnel services allocated in this account, and we do have some contractual services in capital outlay.

1021
01:21:27,810 --> 01:21:33,590
You do have a nice ending fun balance sitting here at 900,000 as we go over your future capital

1022
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:39,930
I'll lay you'll see how we're eating up that ending fun balance here is your forfeiture fund expenditure detail

1023
01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:51,850
And then your personnel what's included in this amount is your salary adjustments in your salary scale longevity pay and your longevity paid is done in

1024
01:21:51,850 --> 01:22:16,970
You know, Bember, someone asked on what the cost is for the increase that we have projected it's 132,000 to your general fund for what was that for the increase in your the 2% increase in your market increase that you have allocated for the staff in this budget is 132,000 in your general fund and again just trying to find I don't want to cut any we have to find more cats right.

1025
01:22:16,970 --> 01:22:21,890
What if what would it cost if we went from 2% to 1.5% to 1.5%.

1026
01:22:21,890 --> 01:22:24,670
So I haven't done those calculations for two reasons.

1027
01:22:25,390 --> 01:22:28,370
One, I want to see what the health insurance rate comes in.

1028
01:22:28,610 --> 01:22:29,970
And so that's current.

1029
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:40,500
Not only the increase budgeted in your budget is sitting at $195,000, which would offset the increase anyway. So if we are able to zero out your health insurance increase that would offset that cost.

1030
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:47,920
I don't want the staff not to get an increase to take a decrease in their pay based on your health insurance benefits.

1031
01:22:48,140 --> 01:22:54,700
And so what typically happens is the cost for dependent care coverage or the cost goes up and then you don't give an increase.

1032
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:59,340
So then that means next year their paycheck is lower with their taking home because the cost

1033
01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:01,640
of their benefit has increased when you haven't given a race.

1034
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,360
So my goal is either to wash it out to where they don't see a hit, but it's enough to

1035
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:12,140
cover their coverage or that they get a little bit more, you know, that's that's the goal.

1036
01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:16,180
But yes, so we have some, I've different scenarios available to you all.

1037
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:22,200
I'm just not, I haven't made that jump yet, but my goal is is for y'all to, for me, to get

1038
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,020
revenue revenue rate. We've got the certified tax rules to see with the

1039
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:27,860
no new revenue. I don't know what that's going to come in at. To see what

1040
01:23:27,860 --> 01:23:31,380
that looks like. But also to see what your health insurance because it's a

1041
01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:35,260
big chunk of of the increase sitting in your personnel to see what that

1042
01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:38,380
actually looks like for next year. And if we have if we don't give a 2% we don't

1043
01:23:38,380 --> 01:23:43,220
give a 2% if we have to talk about staff cuts in order to make that deficit

1044
01:23:43,220 --> 01:23:46,640
because we're not comfortable with increasing the property tax and that's also

1045
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,640
another conversation we can have. But before we head down that path because I

1046
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,820
I also like don't want to crush the staff morale either.

1047
01:23:54,420 --> 01:23:58,540
I'd like to make sure I have all the available information before we start openly discussing those kinds of online.

1048
01:23:58,540 --> 01:24:00,080
I'm glad you're thinking of options.

1049
01:24:00,340 --> 01:24:00,620
Yes, ma'am.

1050
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,040
Yes, ma'am.

1051
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:20,080
I hope we only consider that reducing benefits to the staff raises as a last resort, because affordability right now.

1052
01:24:20,860 --> 01:24:29,960
It's difficult and even with a 2% and the step increase I don't even know that it keeps up with a cost of inflation.

1053
01:24:30,220 --> 01:24:32,600
Again, just a conversation.

1054
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:34,040
Absolutely.

1055
01:24:34,620 --> 01:24:38,680
It's not like we're not making a decision tonight, but I agree with you.

1056
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:39,120
I don't.

1057
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,520
That's why I said, hesitantly, I open my mouth for that.

1058
01:24:42,940 --> 01:24:44,020
No, you should, mayor.

1059
01:24:44,140 --> 01:24:46,160
I mean, the money is the responsibility.

1060
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,980
ability, you know, and it is always a conversation, and we've had this conversation.

1061
01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:54,860
At some point, you know, we may have to look at reducing services to some degree, right?

1062
01:24:54,980 --> 01:24:56,400
Like, what does that really look like?

1063
01:24:56,440 --> 01:25:01,260
Do we only cut Banderer Road Quarterly and reduce the park personnel by foreign poise?

1064
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:04,160
Do you reduce the accreditation at the light?

1065
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,660
We don't longer have an accredited library.

1066
01:25:05,860 --> 01:25:10,340
We're going to reduce the library programming, not the staff, but go back to the old

1067
01:25:10,340 --> 01:25:10,820
school library.

1068
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,380
We checked out books and only have small-type programs.

1069
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:14,600
We don't do the large programs.

1070
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,580
Well, we're not going to be in a credited library anymore, but the community may be okay with that.

1071
01:25:18,740 --> 01:25:24,540
They may not, you know, want the big, big rig petting zoo in the carnival and all of those things.

1072
01:25:24,700 --> 01:25:31,600
Is it, is it a reduction in service in one of the areas, whether it's public works or library or

1073
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:39,840
Is some other former fashion, you know, do we not have somebody answer the phone, do you know, do we go to an automated system?

1074
01:25:39,860 --> 01:25:41,620
Do we move more towards AI?

1075
01:25:41,740 --> 01:25:43,900
Do we have robots begin cutting grass?

1076
01:25:43,900 --> 01:25:50,300
Like, what does that really look like in a long-term kind of, but yes, we have all of that.

1077
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:50,980
We're taking it into consideration.

1078
01:25:51,140 --> 01:25:56,180
I heard the mayor of San Antonio interviewed this week on David Martin Davies and

1079
01:25:56,180 --> 01:25:59,040
there are $159 million in the whole.

1080
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:00,500
I'll take $400 of it.

1081
01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:05,760
So she said, just to put it in perspective, and I can't remember all of it, but I do remember.

1082
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:11,820
She said, you have to close all the libraries, take away animal control completely, and

1083
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:14,720
then do something else, another whole department,

1084
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,800
these three chunks, and you're still 20 million in the whole.

1085
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,340
And I'm like, whoa, I mean, so it's a challenge,

1086
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,680
but go ahead, I just,

1087
01:26:23,900 --> 01:26:25,780
Dr. Cordera, which is my memory,

1088
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:28,620
we didn't reduce anybody's salary last year,

1089
01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:30,800
do you know, other than a general material,

1090
01:26:31,460 --> 01:26:33,860
the, we didn't, so we didn't reduce anybody's,

1091
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:35,280
so it's very hard press.

1092
01:26:35,300 --> 01:26:36,580
We normally don't reduce salaries,

1093
01:26:36,740 --> 01:26:38,880
because normally what happens is you have a range,

1094
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,160
a salary range, right?

1095
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:46,560
And so when you bring in a new person that new person starts to typically that bottom end of your salary scale.

1096
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:52,080
So as you have turned over throughout the year or as a city continues,

1097
01:26:52,540 --> 01:27:00,200
you'll see your personnel services kind of ebb and flow because we'll have a longevity of 40 year staff right that are at the top end of the scale.

1098
01:27:00,340 --> 01:27:04,960
Well, as they get begin to retire, you'll have new staff that comes in and not hopefully,

1099
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:11,760
But they normally start off at the bottom edge of the sits of the scale, and so you'll see your personal cost kind of take a little bit of a dip.

1100
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:20,600
We got a little wonky, and the reason that we're not trending so much that way is because the council went a couple of years without increases.

1101
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:29,680
The council was Willy behind and pain appropriate market rate for some of the staff, and so we got behind and it was harder for us to hire.

1102
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:34,690
So we were running vacancies like four or five vacancies. We're not running that right now

1103
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:39,420
And so as we have to kind of keep up with our counter parts

1104
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,760
But I don't I don't ever suggest us being at the top end of that scale either

1105
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,600
I try to keep us in the middle as much as I can

1106
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:51,580
We're coming up to part as far as our salaries. Correct, but like say this here

1107
01:27:51,580 --> 01:27:56,600
You're not able to do it say we can't go up in property tax and you can't do the increases

1108
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:02,680
then you will start seeing because like I'm already seeing where other cities are already above us.

1109
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:07,460
So if you don't do the increases, you're going to start trailing behind and that's what's happened in the past.

1110
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,380
We've gone years where we don't give the increases we get farther behind.

1111
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:18,380
And then we have to come and pay the paper at some point and then it's a big hit to your budget when we when we try to make that adjustment.

1112
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:46,600
So I always recommend some sort of increase to try our best to stay up to par, but maybe it isn't the 2% and the 2% maybe it's 1.5 and 2 maybe it's 1 and a 2 maybe it's a benefit reduction maybe it's a little bit of both maybe it is a staff cutting position and a reduction benefits maybe it's none of those things maybe the council is okay with saying you know what we don't want to touch the staff benefits we'd rather cut x, y and z instead.

1113
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,640
And so, all of those conversations happen.

1114
01:28:49,820 --> 01:28:54,280
They're hard conversations to have because we become very attached with one another.

1115
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,860
We, you know, the staff is very approachable with the council and so it's always a hard

1116
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:04,360
discussion to have, especially when you know you're impacting somebody's personal life.

1117
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:07,560
I mean, their job is their personal life when it comes to salary and benefits.

1118
01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:13,000
And so, but I don't like to have that discussion this early on until I have the no new revenue

1119
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:13,920
rate and health insurance.

1120
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,420
And as soon as we get those numbers, then we will have those just

1121
01:29:16,420 --> 01:29:18,380
we should get the right next week, right?

1122
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,000
They were taking the last week of July.

1123
01:29:20,020 --> 01:29:22,880
They normally do, but last year we got the first week at August.

1124
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,520
I don't want to make any promises.

1125
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,400
I'm hoping we'll get it the last week of July.

1126
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:31,620
And then I'm hoping to have health insurance rates the last week of July as well.

1127
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,920
So hopefully both will come in and I don't know if we'll have it by the August 4th.

1128
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,600
Depending on when those rates come in, maybe we have a discussion of having just a budget

1129
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:45,240
meeting the following Tuesdays of the fourth maybe not presenting on the fourth, but holding

1130
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:49,540
it that I don't know what date that is. But seven days from the 11th, 11th, 11th. Thank you.

1131
01:29:49,740 --> 01:29:53,800
Just a budget kind of like what we did the last time and not put the budget on for the fourth,

1132
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,640
just to give me some time to get those those numbers updated so you can have a more in-depth conversation.

1133
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,340
I'm more waiting to see when those numbers come in and we can have that conversation.

1134
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:05,200
That's good.

1135
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:11,600
Here are the salary allocations. I know it's kind of hard to read, but if you go to the red light camera one, you'll see two

1136
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:19,520
municipal court personnel services are paid out of your red light cameras as well as your senior 20% of your senior court clerk and a court administrator.

1137
01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:28,000
Here is your finance director assistant finance director and your receptionist are paid out 20%

1138
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:41,500
If you go down to your PD, you have your PD assistant chief and police chief are paid out of there and then these are the remaining officers and detectives paid out of your revenue.

1139
01:30:42,420 --> 01:30:44,080
So it's not just your officers.

1140
01:30:47,210 --> 01:30:49,890
Our Christmas holiday this year, we always present it during the budget.

1141
01:30:49,950 --> 01:30:54,950
We will be closed from December 24th through January 4th.

1142
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:57,770
and we will turn on

1143
01:31:00,010 --> 01:31:01,110
the fifth and the fourth.

1144
01:31:01,470 --> 01:31:01,930
Monday the fourth.

1145
01:31:02,230 --> 01:31:03,970
We open Monday, yes, we open Monday the fourth.

1146
01:31:04,130 --> 01:31:04,470
I'm sorry.

1147
01:31:05,170 --> 01:31:06,190
I put it on there as bullets.

1148
01:31:06,350 --> 01:31:07,390
I wouldn't forget and I didn't remember.

1149
01:31:08,970 --> 01:31:09,930
So next steps.

1150
01:31:10,110 --> 01:31:10,950
We'll have a budget.

1151
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:15,690
Our budget public hearing is August 25th with your tax rate hearing on September 8th.

1152
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:17,770
We will have other subsequent actual budget meeting.

1153
01:31:17,770 --> 01:31:20,910
So we'll have it right on the fourth if we have the numbers.

1154
01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:21,990
If not, we'll move it to.

1155
01:31:22,130 --> 01:31:25,830
We'll ask to see if the Council is available to do it on the 11th.

1156
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:30,090
I do have your 10-year capital plan. I'm not going to go over all of your 10-year capital

1157
01:31:30,090 --> 01:31:34,430
plan. We've had a lot of discussions on your 10-year capital plan, but I am going to

1158
01:31:34,430 --> 01:31:39,670
briefly kind of, this is your general fund summary. When we talk about having a healthy

1159
01:31:39,670 --> 01:31:47,610
reserve fund, it's because we have future expenses geared up for upcoming years, and so

1160
01:31:47,610 --> 01:31:54,610
if you take a look at your general fund, we break your general fund and buy departments of your

1161
01:31:54,610 --> 01:31:59,190
information technology, these are upcoming years that we're going to have to purchase large ticket items.

1162
01:31:59,970 --> 01:32:07,590
Your police department, these are some big ticket items that will be coming up on the for the upcoming year, as well as your in pound.

1163
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:14,670
Your, oh my gosh, your fire department, you can see some large expenses over the next 10 years as well.

1164
01:32:15,250 --> 01:32:16,870
Your public works department,

1165
01:32:19,900 --> 01:32:24,160
your capital plan will again come up in around 35 36.

1166
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,420
Your economic development,

1167
01:32:30,410 --> 01:32:39,210
your code enforcement, and your parks as another one that have upcoming expenses throughout the next 10 years, as well as your library.

1168
01:32:40,510 --> 01:32:45,830
And then we move on to your enterprise fund. This is, you'll see some upcoming projects,

1169
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,860
and you'll see the 500,000 in their each year because that's been typical.

1170
01:32:51,860 --> 01:32:56,820
that will change in your future. We reserve fun in this fund as we get projects. Those will be

1171
01:32:56,820 --> 01:33:03,180
reduced to those project specific items. Your crime control. This is the one I kind of wanted

1172
01:33:03,180 --> 01:33:07,920
to touch on because you see the healthy fund balance. But these are some upcoming expenses that

1173
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,000
you will have.

1174
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,000
And then tonight we had an item on the agenda for cops grant. We thought we were going

1175
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:22,060
to be able to apply for it to help offset the radio cost. And so they gave us a timeline, the description

1176
01:33:22,060 --> 01:33:27,080
of the grant. And so we added it as a last minute add to the agenda for this evening. We got

1177
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:31,720
more information on who's going to be eligible for the project, which came in like a couple

1178
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:36,060
of days later. And it's only going to be for the county. The county is only one that's going to be

1179
01:33:36,060 --> 01:33:44,260
eligible to apply. And so they literally very specifically gave who's eligible to apply in

1180
01:33:44,260 --> 01:33:48,700
the spirit county. So we won't be able to apply. So that won't be read tonight. It'll be pulled

1181
01:33:48,700 --> 01:33:49,660
from tonight's agenda.

1182
01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:52,440
But again, that's us just trying to hurry up

1183
01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:53,740
and trying to get as many grant funds

1184
01:33:53,740 --> 01:33:55,220
to offset any future costs.

1185
01:33:55,420 --> 01:33:57,640
And so we jumped the gun because I wanted to make sure

1186
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:58,740
we were like right on it.

1187
01:33:58,740 --> 01:33:59,800
So we added it to the agenda

1188
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:01,100
and then the eligibility came out.

1189
01:34:01,420 --> 01:34:02,100
We didn't qualify.

1190
01:34:03,660 --> 01:34:05,060
Your community center fund,

1191
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,020
you'll see some upcoming purchases as well.

1192
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,240
And that's it, guys.

1193
01:34:09,340 --> 01:34:11,780
That was my fast rendition of the budget.

1194
01:34:12,780 --> 01:34:13,820
And, okay, thank you.

1195
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:14,600
I appreciate it.

1196
01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:15,640
And a half.

1197
01:34:16,220 --> 01:34:16,920
Hey, very good.

1198
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:17,760
Better than four.

1199
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,000
That's right, we had for the last time.

1200
01:34:20,440 --> 01:34:23,460
I just wanted to be sure if there was any other questions, comments.

1201
01:34:23,740 --> 01:34:25,520
Thank you, Dr. Calderon, all the staff.

1202
01:34:26,500 --> 01:34:34,160
All the staff are work on this budget and we're just going through it and see where we end up landing.

1203
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,980
Again, we have information that we still need in order to make a better decision.

1204
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:45,320
Anyone else in the chambers that would like to make a comment on the budget?

1205
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:49,800
All right, if not, then we will go to agenda item number four, which is announcements.

1206
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,080
And

1207
01:34:54,220 --> 01:34:58,620
I had this on, I had no idea that Robin Johnson was going to be here this evening,

1208
01:34:58,820 --> 01:35:03,680
but I did want to thank the Johnson family for their use of the gavel and now they've given

1209
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:04,720
us a brand new gavel.

1210
01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:05,540
That's just beautiful.

1211
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:12,620
So thank you so much for that, and his presence will be missed, that's for sure.

1212
01:35:13,180 --> 01:35:16,920
Again, thanks to the, you know, I was thinking, gosh, what's happened here?

1213
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:23,300
We had the Fourth of July and I liked it, a lot of people came up and said,

1214
01:35:23,540 --> 01:35:29,860
this was a really nice event and it was a home talent event and so I needed to thank the

1215
01:35:29,860 --> 01:35:35,960
Council and the staff and special thanks to Crystal Miranda who was leading the effort and

1216
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:41,920
you know, public works, please fire volunteers. I mean it was just, I know we didn't have fire

1217
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:47,800
works, but I thought we had a really good time with Jackson, our re-enactor and all of the

1218
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:53,900
entertainment that we had from John Jay, LA, for Gluracose, Mass Dance, as a choral society,

1219
01:35:54,600 --> 01:36:00,820
and thanks to all of the businesses who donated items from water to whatever bomb pops,

1220
01:36:01,340 --> 01:36:02,060
I can't read.

1221
01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:06,180
But anyway, but, and I thought that the raffle draw drawings were a hit.

1222
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:07,220
I really did.

1223
01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:12,500
a lot of people stay just for those hundred dollar gift cards to H.E.P. we couldn't do it

1224
01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:19,100
in a big ten thousand dollar ten thousand person event but you can on a smaller event

1225
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:25,360
and I just thought it was just it was just neighbor to neighbor it was just it was I thought

1226
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:30,720
it was very nice so I'm and again we've already gone over it I had a thing about how much it

1227
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:38,000
for the big event, the 180 to 200, but anyway, we'll talk about it this coming Saturday.

1228
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:46,040
Something I brought up at the 4th of July, and that is I still am going to try to do this,

1229
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:54,260
and we have a proclamation on the August 4th agenda, and that is to celebrate the 250th anniversary

1230
01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:57,880
by trying to increase our participation in our elections.

1231
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:08,900
We only had 6% turnout in May and you know if we could register people and I even you know when as far as saying we could be the highest

1232
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:14,280
Turn out suburban city in the county. I mean that's a big goal, but anyway

1233
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,420
That's in the back of my mind, but anyway, we'll I'm gonna get registered

1234
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,560
You have to take a test in order to become a registrar

1235
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:29,380
So, anyway, so that, you know, we could register people for their right to vote.

1236
01:37:31,060 --> 01:37:49,480
Democracy and Action. This coming Thursday at 11 a.m. there's going to be a grant opening for Wolfspar Nexus. It's a PC gaming destination on Leon Valley at 11 o'clock. So if the council can join me, that would be wonderful.

1237
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:55,380
And, you know, I just, another comment I had, and I mean, I know there's lots of other things

1238
01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:59,360
about it when I haul up the time, but I just said, thank goodness for the rain.

1239
01:37:59,580 --> 01:38:01,840
I mean, it was such a godset.

1240
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:09,580
Canon Lake is 90%, Medina Lake is maybe half full now, and the offer is up to 650 feet,

1241
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,900
which it hasn't been down there to 6.20 or something like that.

1242
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:19,460
So anyway, that's all I need to say tonight, but thank you all very much for all of your

1243
01:38:19,460 --> 01:38:25,220
effort, effort, and I'll look forward to working on the budget and other items. Yes, it's a

1244
01:38:25,220 --> 01:38:35,000
grand opening this Thursday. This Thursday, 11 o'clock. Yeah. Right. So I believe that's correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm

1245
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:42,880
looking at our economic development director. Yes, I'm pretty sure I got that right. Yes. Okay. Mr.

1246
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:48,440
Compose, if you'll continue, please, thank you. So I do want to recognize the staff on the record

1247
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:57,780
for completing we we had a special meeting on July the 14th and at that

1248
01:38:57,780 --> 01:39:05,720
time we had a consensus to put three three grants from the library on the

1249
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:12,940
consent agenda where the city's going to receive up to 87 and a half thousand

1250
01:39:12,940 --> 01:39:20,900
dollars and public works brought in another 25 and I just want to recognize them for adding

1251
01:39:20,900 --> 01:39:32,180
112,500 to our available funds to expand and add programs to the citizens. The second thing,

1252
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:38,660
we want to recognize the fire department again for doing their third quarter blood drive that was held

1253
01:39:38,660 --> 01:39:47,740
July the third. So always a worthwhile cause. And then just to let everybody know, the library

1254
01:39:47,740 --> 01:39:55,000
has for the remainder of the month, 12 additional programs that they have. So Regina,

1255
01:39:55,280 --> 01:40:02,760
I always try to highlight that every time I speak. So it is important. Can I say 12 programs

1256
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:10,600
between now and July 31st. Correct. That's like a week and a half. So they're quite busy and

1257
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:17,520
they've got the golf coming up too. So and then I don't know if my colleagues saw the the city manager

1258
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:23,340
report that we got late but the number of open records requests that the city secretary process

1259
01:40:23,340 --> 01:40:29,850
incredible and there is a bunch of them and so it takes a lot of time and effort to get those

1260
01:40:30,910 --> 01:40:35,990
to the requesters and then, you know, you can't go without, we talked about the rain.

1261
01:40:36,690 --> 01:40:41,890
Public work staff clearing out, paus, the fire department, the police department, putting

1262
01:40:41,890 --> 01:40:46,990
up barricades, keeping her citizens safe, all that work for the first responders and the

1263
01:40:46,990 --> 01:40:50,210
public work staff, please thank them all for that.

1264
01:40:50,510 --> 01:40:51,350
Thank you.

1265
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:56,810
And the good news is that we really didn't have any major problems during the rain.

1266
01:40:56,810 --> 01:41:06,870
Every day I passed the manager, any word, any word, you know, I mean, I got here and there that I can't get to my house, but for the most part it was, you know, not going to wood.

1267
01:41:06,930 --> 01:41:24,490
We had pretty good. Yes. Yes. Thank you for them cleaning up the park after the water. That was a lot. I had not seen the water go that high. It was almost to the fence on the other side of the playground. It's been a long time since I've seen wood up against the trees. They did an awesome job cleaning up so quickly.

1268
01:41:24,490 --> 01:41:27,310
Like, yes, you're Councillor of Roscoe.

1269
01:41:27,650 --> 01:41:28,250
Thank you, Mayor.

1270
01:41:28,530 --> 01:41:30,570
Tomorrow the CPAC police advise you group.

1271
01:41:32,150 --> 01:41:33,290
630 here.

1272
01:41:33,610 --> 01:41:38,190
If you have any questions about your city or even the flood cameras or anything,

1273
01:41:38,810 --> 01:41:45,350
we will be there and to be able to ask questions about anything there.

1274
01:41:45,730 --> 01:41:51,430
Also, congratulations to our little league senior girls from Leon Valley.

1275
01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:59,550
They did win and I'm a realo and they went to Louisiana and they played very well, but I think they came up short and quite sure, but

1276
01:41:59,550 --> 01:42:02,250
I know they lost the first game, but

1277
01:42:02,250 --> 01:42:04,630
Congratulations to them, they did a great job all year long.

1278
01:42:05,630 --> 01:42:06,590
That's great.

1279
01:42:07,090 --> 01:42:09,170
All right, anything else? Yes, Councillor Merch.

1280
01:42:10,490 --> 01:42:13,570
I just wanted to let everyone know that Northside School District did

1281
01:42:13,570 --> 01:42:17,530
Invite Leon Valley to participate in their citizens bond committee.

1282
01:42:18,270 --> 01:42:25,790
And that's, I understand the first time that they've included Leon Valley, and I am going to the meetings in the mayor's place.

1283
01:42:26,350 --> 01:42:31,870
So far, I've only gone to one meeting the next one is in August, but it's a very interesting process.

1284
01:42:32,590 --> 01:42:41,530
Thank you for that. I just was, I couldn't add another meeting. This was like four or five meeting commitments. So thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

1285
01:42:42,330 --> 01:42:47,630
I've got two meetings tomorrow, so you know, okay, anyone else, all right, so then we move

1286
01:42:48,650 --> 01:42:52,330
into the consent, I know, City Manager's report, Dr. Caldera.

1287
01:42:52,670 --> 01:42:56,570
I good evening, Erin Council. Your City Manager's report was emailed to you yesterday in

1288
01:42:56,570 --> 01:43:02,410
the day-to-day, sorry, it was a busy day, but that was sent out, it is outside and online as well.

1289
01:43:03,010 --> 01:43:08,490
I do want to come in Ms. Miranda on the 4th of July because she started that event really late,

1290
01:43:08,490 --> 01:43:17,470
And so she was able to pull off, you know, an event that, you know, would normally take, you know, a few months to get put together. So we really appreciate her service.

1291
01:43:19,150 --> 01:43:34,170
The flooding I did want to comment on that. We didn't have any major issues. The park did flood for park and right away in street closeters. Yes, it's a pain for us. But I'd rather have that nine times out of ten than people's homes flooding and people being displaced.

1292
01:43:34,170 --> 01:43:39,050
and so commend our fire police and public court staff for that as well.

1293
01:43:40,130 --> 01:43:48,350
And then lastly, again, I want to put a shout out to the library because they really have gone after the grants.

1294
01:43:48,690 --> 01:43:54,970
And so when we see that, it's a reflection of Regina and her staff because her staff have to take on her responsibilities.

1295
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:57,330
They're at the library when she's sitting down doing the grants.

1296
01:43:57,390 --> 01:44:00,510
I've picked up the phone and called Regina and said, here's a grant, we've got two days,

1297
01:44:00,510 --> 01:44:02,650
and she's dropped everything on her days off

1298
01:44:02,650 --> 01:44:04,090
to put together those grant applications.

1299
01:44:04,490 --> 01:44:08,450
And so it's important to note that the staff do go above

1300
01:44:08,450 --> 01:44:10,810
and beyond to make sure they help with offsetting the budget.

1301
01:44:11,410 --> 01:44:12,670
So I just wanted to make that note.

1302
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:13,990
Thank you. Okay, you're welcome.

1303
01:44:14,150 --> 01:44:14,930
That's wonderful. Yes.

1304
01:44:14,930 --> 01:44:16,470
I'd like to piggyback with that.

1305
01:44:16,890 --> 01:44:17,590
Dr. Cardetta.

1306
01:44:18,290 --> 01:44:18,550
Councillor.

1307
01:44:18,710 --> 01:44:20,510
Every time we go to the TML,

1308
01:44:21,330 --> 01:44:24,070
there's also, there's always some city,

1309
01:44:24,330 --> 01:44:27,090
small city, getting awards for this and that.

1310
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:34,290
And I know that Leon Valley has done a great job, and it's okay for us to pat ourselves

1311
01:44:34,290 --> 01:44:39,830
in the back, but you know, the public works, the library, your staff is doing to get recognized

1312
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:41,650
for what they give out.

1313
01:44:41,710 --> 01:44:49,030
How can we engage more into the TML to let them know what's happening in our city?

1314
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:51,250
So we just have to submit nominations.

1315
01:44:51,250 --> 01:44:55,510
We used to submit nominations all the times for various things, and we've been awarded many

1316
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:59,970
TML awards over my 20 years, those applications take time.

1317
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,220
I'm an effort to do, and that falls on my director's shoulders, so for them to get a pat on the back to spend an extra hour nominating themselves, they just don't always want to do that.

1318
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:17,220
But they have been given a directive two meetings ago to look up the nomination forms to see if we can nominate some of our women.

1319
01:45:17,220 --> 01:45:17,940
Great, thank you.

1320
01:45:20,010 --> 01:45:21,190
Okay, thank you.

1321
01:45:21,570 --> 01:45:23,510
We moved into the consent agenda.

1322
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:26,570
6.11 through 6.10.

1323
01:45:27,550 --> 01:45:33,290
Any colleague want to move a agenda item for discussion

1324
01:45:33,290 --> 01:45:36,410
and if not, may have a motion and a second to approve.

1325
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:38,790
Yes, Councillor Comfort.

1326
01:45:39,190 --> 01:45:41,610
After reviewing all the consent agenda items,

1327
01:45:41,810 --> 01:45:47,170
I move that we approve all agenda one through 10 as presented.

1328
01:45:48,630 --> 01:46:00,630
We have a motion by Councilor Kompos and a second by Councilor Hyal to approve consentage and the items one through 6.1 through 6.10 as presented any further discussion

1329
01:46:00,630 --> 01:46:13,830
All those in favor say aye in the opposed the motion desk carry then moving then to regular agenda 7.1 as Dr. Caldera noted this has been removed

1330
01:46:14,650 --> 01:46:22,930
And we will then move to 7.2, let me read it, presentation, discussion, and possible action

1331
01:46:22,930 --> 01:46:29,090
on the first amendment to chapter 380 Economic Development Agreement between the City of

1332
01:46:29,090 --> 01:46:38,490
Leo Belly Texas and 6400 Bandera LP and Zulon Lang and David Weiner and we have our Economic

1333
01:46:38,490 --> 01:46:42,790
development directors there. Well, we'll hear two percent. Good evening. Welcome.

1334
01:46:43,310 --> 01:46:48,150
Thank you. I'd be here. I'm full of mayor. So yes, I'll be presenting on the first amendment to

1335
01:46:48,150 --> 01:46:52,910
that chapter 380 economic development agreement. And so for some background, this was an agreement

1336
01:46:52,910 --> 01:47:00,550
signed in October of 2024 for those who weren't recently on Valley then. But so the question for tonight

1337
01:47:00,550 --> 01:47:05,450
is the city council is being asked to consider a first amendment to the agreement with 64 under

1338
01:47:05,450 --> 01:47:08,010
and their L.P. She-On-Lang and David Weiner.

1339
01:47:08,850 --> 01:47:11,310
It's recommended to approve the amendments as presented.

1340
01:47:11,430 --> 01:47:14,910
There's also the option of denial or other.

1341
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:16,890
And it's up to the council discretion.

1342
01:47:19,210 --> 01:47:21,330
The purpose of this presentation is to seek approval

1343
01:47:21,330 --> 01:47:25,070
again of the amendment and there's a couple components to this amendment.

1344
01:47:25,810 --> 01:47:29,450
So we were approached in June of this year by the grantee

1345
01:47:30,350 --> 01:47:34,750
due to delays in the project from CPS connections

1346
01:47:34,750 --> 01:47:41,510
and applications that he had with CBS. And so as a part of the agreement it was a requirement

1347
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:49,950
that they had to complete facade and an interior movement by 2025, December 2025. And at this

1348
01:47:49,950 --> 01:47:58,330
time it was not going to be set in time for duties project delays. And so with that opportunity

1349
01:47:58,330 --> 01:48:04,110
we also wanted to make some clear, clear, cool amendments as well, do based on some errors that we

1350
01:48:04,110 --> 01:48:08,610
found in the agreement, just to provide more clarity on going forward.

1351
01:48:09,290 --> 01:48:13,850
So, again, that was to extend the project, redevelopment, milestone, due to that CPS delay,

1352
01:48:14,190 --> 01:48:19,550
update the payment schedule, and exhibit, exhibit D. This is the three incentives, the sales

1353
01:48:19,550 --> 01:48:26,930
tax, the ad warm rebate, and the fee waivers portion, and then click, correcting for those

1354
01:48:26,930 --> 01:48:33,230
clerical errors, as I mentioned. So, we'll start with the clerical errors. The first is to expand

1355
01:48:33,230 --> 01:48:39,110
the definition in item M of Section 2 for the definition of a maximum reimbursement amount.

1356
01:48:39,890 --> 01:48:44,510
This week there was just a sales tax refund was left off of that and we wanted to further

1357
01:48:44,510 --> 01:48:50,850
define it as describing an exhibit D which I'll show a little bit later so just a small

1358
01:48:50,850 --> 01:48:52,170
change here.

1359
01:48:53,330 --> 01:48:56,410
Additionally, we had item I of Section 6.

1360
01:48:56,730 --> 01:49:02,570
This was to extend, of course, the exterior facade improvements that I mentioned so these

1361
01:49:02,570 --> 01:49:08,770
are supposed to start in 2024 and be completed in December by December 31st of 2025.

1362
01:49:10,250 --> 01:49:15,670
Now with the CPS delays, we've talked to the grantee and he does estimate that these will be completed

1363
01:49:15,670 --> 01:49:21,190
by the end of this year. He's actually received approval from CPS on some drawings as of yesterday.

1364
01:49:21,710 --> 01:49:27,810
So the timeline is looking more promising as we go on and we've also added the additional note

1365
01:49:27,810 --> 01:49:32,130
of subject to the issuance of a final inspection permit with the city of Leon Valley Planning

1366
01:49:32,130 --> 01:49:38,590
zoning department, just so we can have that certainty in that checkbox that all of those project

1367
01:49:38,590 --> 01:49:43,170
requirements and that scope will work at the end of this agreement are going to be completed,

1368
01:49:43,810 --> 01:49:50,530
and so we have a little bit more certainty there. And then as for the exhibit D, this is where

1369
01:49:50,530 --> 01:49:55,750
we have some changes in just the timeline. So you'll see and I'll show it in the next slide,

1370
01:49:55,970 --> 01:50:00,650
basically just a shift, so you'll see an additional year for him to complete that project

1371
01:50:00,650 --> 01:50:06,950
And those sales tax refunds will be given accordingly and I'll mention that here in the next slide.

1372
01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:09,490
So there's no change to fee waivers.

1373
01:50:09,870 --> 01:50:16,650
He does have a remaining balance of about 2300 that he's still looking to continue to,

1374
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:21,270
to, you know, to use up as he goes throughout this project.

1375
01:50:21,590 --> 01:50:26,330
And then for the sales tax refund portion, that will begin in 2027.

1376
01:50:26,330 --> 01:50:30,830
Then once we have that planning and zoning inspections, we're going to receive.

1377
01:50:32,050 --> 01:50:34,910
And then I'll go ahead and go to the sales tax refund.

1378
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:37,990
Exhibit that you'll find in the Exhibit D of the agreement.

1379
01:50:39,170 --> 01:50:44,110
So I apologize, it's a little small, but you'll see it's the same schedule of those sales

1380
01:50:44,110 --> 01:50:53,290
tax rebate portions per cent, so this 2 years of 75% and then the 4 years of 50% and then

1381
01:50:53,290 --> 01:51:01,930
final year of 25% however this just shifts us down one more year to that 2023-2024 fiscal

1382
01:51:01,930 --> 01:51:07,790
year timeline. We've added some clear fine language as well just to account for the total

1383
01:51:07,790 --> 01:51:14,050
maximum sales tax refund just to make it more clear and then additionally because of the state

1384
01:51:14,050 --> 01:51:20,350
controllers timeline on when we receive these total sales tax collected from the businesses that

1385
01:51:20,350 --> 01:51:28,790
But our at 6400 Vandera, we've also amended the language as to when we will repay that sales tax refund.

1386
01:51:29,610 --> 01:51:33,750
So we received that report each month, the finance director does.

1387
01:51:33,870 --> 01:51:46,890
And so after that, we'll be paying the grantee on a quarterly basis based on the total sales tax collected with that 45 days sort of quarter end timeline.

1388
01:51:46,890 --> 01:51:53,450
And that's just to give us certain T. So we have all those numbers and can repay that total collection amount.

1389
01:51:54,670 --> 01:52:02,010
And then for the Adelurum Tax refund, there was just again a small clerical mention of the total maximum property tax refund here.

1390
01:52:02,290 --> 01:52:04,230
So no changes to be the schedule.

1391
01:52:07,300 --> 01:52:16,140
And then we also offered the recommendation to make an amendment on the clerical language for maximum sales tax and add a warm tax refunds.

1392
01:52:16,140 --> 01:52:22,580
So this is just to ensure that these funds do not carry forward if the grant is not performed.

1393
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:29,980
So it's a performance-based grant and we just wanted to ensure that there's no implications and if any of those I'll go back to say.

1394
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:37,480
So you can see if he does not achieve those $75,000 in sales tax, that's not going to carry over from year to year.

1395
01:52:38,140 --> 01:52:43,400
So that's what this language is accomplishing here, and it's just included again in the in exhibit.

1396
01:52:45,260 --> 01:52:47,140
Staff recommends approval of the amendments.

1397
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:52,880
The grantee has been really communicative throughout this entire process.

1398
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:58,920
been a good partner and steward, so he's also available. He could not make it tonight to tonight's

1399
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:04,060
meeting. He's based out of New York, but he is available for questions and, you know, it was

1400
01:53:04,060 --> 01:53:08,520
always a phone call away as well. So I'm happy to ask many direct questions if you have any for the

1401
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:13,060
grantee specifically, but if you have any other questions about the amendments, I'm happy to answer

1402
01:53:13,060 --> 01:53:20,020
those as well. There's no fiscal impact to the agreement. Again, this is the same incentive value

1403
01:53:20,020 --> 01:53:27,340
just shifted by the timeline. Thank you so much for a good explanation. You know, it's just very well

1404
01:53:27,340 --> 01:53:33,700
put. So I appreciate that. Yes, just wanted to note for the magnitude that he did want to remote in

1405
01:53:33,700 --> 01:53:39,680
but my system wasn't set up for teams just yet. Okay. And so that's why he's not that would have

1406
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:44,720
been his option would be to remote in by teams. We're still having some wiring internal wiring issues

1407
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:49,900
for teams and that's why he was unable to remote. Okay. I just wanted to kind of make note of that

1408
01:53:49,900 --> 01:54:05,140
Thank you for that. Okay. Councillor Marsha. Just for curiosity, if the he was supposed to have met his obligations by December of 2025, why are we waiting till July to redo the agreement?

1409
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:15,660
That's on me. So when Roca left, I would love to say I keep in track of every single contract the city has, but the list is never ending.

1410
01:54:15,660 --> 01:54:21,180
So, my directive to all the staff is to review all of their contracts, make sure we're hitting all of our requirements.

1411
01:54:22,540 --> 01:54:25,500
They get not in trouble, but in trouble.

1412
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:32,540
When we miss a deadline, I heard a contract expires or we're paying for something that's not in an agreement, and it comes out later.

1413
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:38,620
They're the ones held responsible for those unauthorized contract obligations.

1414
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:50,020
So when Sarah got here, I gave her all the new contracts, told her to review them, give me her input, that was part of one of her first goals, and so she came back to me who saved that she would like to clean up this contract.

1415
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:59,680
And so we in an effort and Carol tried to help her with those initial because we were having some issues with the sales tax dollars and refunding some of those.

1416
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:07,000
And so we were trying to work out how we were going to do that within the parameters of the contract and it just made sense to make the amendments to make it clean.

1417
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:13,300
Okay, yes. Thank you so much. Councilor Hile. You may have mentioned this and I missed it. What is the business?

1418
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:19,940
So it's a property owner. It's a developer at 6400 Bander, which is the old Jim's property.

1419
01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:24,220
Right across from the ship, please, where Rita's is located, Ripper's coins.

1420
01:55:24,820 --> 01:55:29,440
And he has had some promising developments with liquid, which coming in.

1421
01:55:29,540 --> 01:55:33,020
And so I'm hoping we'll get some more traction once those tenants are available.

1422
01:55:33,180 --> 01:55:34,200
Or like those sweets are available.

1423
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:35,120
Thank you.

1424
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,300
It's looking good.

1425
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:38,500
Anybody else?

1426
01:55:38,620 --> 01:55:39,580
Anyone else?

1427
01:55:40,220 --> 01:55:42,700
We are able to vote on this this evening.

1428
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:44,440
And so what's the pleasure of the council?

1429
01:55:44,980 --> 01:55:45,020
Yes.

1430
01:55:45,300 --> 01:55:51,660
I'd like to make a motion that we accept seven point two as presented in a men this agreement.

1431
01:55:52,420 --> 01:55:53,200
I'd like to second.

1432
01:55:54,020 --> 01:55:59,860
We have a motion by council or compost in a second by council both in to accept seven point two.

1433
01:55:59,860 --> 01:56:03,880
The three eighty economic development agreement with the changes as presented.

1434
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:10,520
in that agreement. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye? Any opposed,

1435
01:56:10,580 --> 01:56:16,180
the motion does carry. The moving then to 7.3, presentation and discussion on

1436
01:56:16,180 --> 01:56:22,320
amending an ordinance of the city of Lyon Valley, Texas Chapter 2, animal control of

1437
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:29,120
the code of ordinances, amending definitions, revising regulations, governing prohibited

1438
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:35,340
It emin animals authorizing certain license to illogical parks, aquariums, and educational

1439
01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:43,100
animal exhibition facilities to possess otherwise prohibited animals, subject to specified

1440
01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:49,560
safety requirements, establishing pet stop requirements, regarding the source of dogs and

1441
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,580
cats offered for sale or adoptions.

1442
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:55,820
Now this is our first reading so we won't vote on it.

1443
01:56:55,820 --> 01:56:58,940
And this came, I believe, this came from our retreat.

1444
01:56:59,700 --> 01:57:03,460
We talked about it, so this is presented this evening.

1445
01:57:04,420 --> 01:57:08,280
And Dr. Caldera will go into this details.

1446
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,500
So thank you and welcome. Appreciate it.

1447
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:11,880
I know all the details. I did.

1448
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,040
So getting the mayor in council.

1449
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:17,200
So this did come from the retreat.

1450
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:21,480
It was a directive to revisit the animal control ordinance.

1451
01:57:21,900 --> 01:57:23,600
Any time we take a look at an ordinance,

1452
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,440
if I see that there's other revisions that we need to make because sometimes these ordinances

1453
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,640
have been sitting for quite some time. We'll go ahead and make those kind of amended changes

1454
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:36,920
with that ordinance. And so the big one though, that was discussed is revising the definition

1455
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:43,440
applicable, sorry, to prohibited animals and regulated facilities. The question always comes up with

1456
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:49,440
the aquarium and how can the aquarium have venomous animals, how can the aquarium do this?

1457
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:54,700
And so since we were in this ordinance and in regards to the request from the retreat,

1458
01:57:54,960 --> 01:58:01,460
I decided to go ahead and update that language in regards to who's authorized to hold prohibited

1459
01:58:01,460 --> 01:58:06,600
animals. So a lot of those changes had to do with kind of defining authorizing, you know,

1460
01:58:06,700 --> 01:58:12,920
zoological parks, aquariums, educational animal, exhibition facilities. And then to clarify that

1461
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:18,140
such exemptions do not authorize private ownership, right? Like I can't go by a rattlesnake and keep

1462
01:58:18,140 --> 01:58:24,220
in my home are breeding facility, right? And so then requiring the big one and the reason that

1463
01:58:24,220 --> 01:58:30,980
this ordinance came to light was the council wanted to start requiring pet shops to offer

1464
01:58:30,980 --> 01:58:37,640
dogs and cats for sale that were only coming from municipal animal shelters, county animal

1465
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:42,220
shelters, animal control agencies, qualified non-profit animal rescues or other organizations

1466
01:58:42,220 --> 01:58:47,100
to prove by the department. And requiring pet shops to maintain documentation, establishing

1467
01:58:47,100 --> 01:58:53,400
the source of each jogging cat and to make such records available for inspections and so essentially

1468
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:58,560
basically not allowing commercially breweded animals to be sold from pet shops, right?

1469
01:58:58,860 --> 01:59:02,040
So we're essentially adopting the city of San Antonio's ordinance.

1470
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:08,420
My question more so is for the city attorney we do have some like pet land and some

1471
01:59:08,420 --> 01:59:12,780
Texas puppy company with this ordinance applied to them as well with they have like a set time

1472
01:59:12,780 --> 01:59:18,800
to only start selling rescue dogs or or not be allowed to. How does that work?

1473
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:27,180
Well, we don't actually, is this okay? Well, I'm sorry. So we don't actually, that wasn't part of the

1474
01:59:27,180 --> 01:59:34,040
ordinance that I wasn't aware of that. I'm sorry. No, no, it is. But but we don't have the accept those

1475
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:41,880
exceptions or or notice delay to inform these people in this. So the way it's currently written is

1476
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,720
that it would be immediately effective.

1477
01:59:44,140 --> 01:59:46,200
Okay, so that's the point I wanted to make is,

1478
01:59:46,460 --> 01:59:48,900
so that the council can discuss that option right now.

1479
01:59:49,220 --> 01:59:52,940
So I did not add a time line when I sent you the draft ordinance

1480
01:59:52,940 --> 01:59:55,700
either and as I've been sitting on it for a week or two,

1481
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,580
I was like, oh man, so how is that going to work

1482
01:59:57,580 --> 01:59:58,860
to currently operate a business?

1483
01:59:58,880 --> 01:59:59,980
So that is a discussion for the-

1484
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:14,400
The council, whether or not you want to give businesses like Petland and Texas Public Company, and I know there's another puppy sore here, some time so we could add that exception into the ordinance to provide them some time.

1485
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:25,230
And I would recommend that you would do so, especially for businesses like Petland who have had responsible partnerships with the city in the past.

1486
02:00:25,230 --> 02:00:31,910
I mean, we have, we do have a adoption portion that we are allowed to give them our rescue

1487
02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:35,010
dogs, and they do adopt them out for us.

1488
02:00:35,150 --> 02:00:36,910
And so that would be my recommendation.

1489
02:00:37,150 --> 02:00:39,030
I don't know what that looks like a year, six months.

1490
02:00:40,270 --> 02:00:44,430
Well, I definitely feel like I can't be immediate because they don't only think about this,

1491
02:00:44,430 --> 02:00:48,770
so we need to give them some chat, but how long, six months to a year?

1492
02:00:48,850 --> 02:00:49,270
I don't know.

1493
02:00:49,290 --> 02:00:52,670
I don't think any more than a year, but six months, what do y'all think is reasonable?

1494
02:00:52,670 --> 02:00:58,430
but yes, Councillor. I would think it would need to be at least six months because they've

1495
02:00:58,430 --> 02:01:03,450
got to do something with their current inventory. They can't be expected to lose the money that

1496
02:01:03,450 --> 02:01:10,750
they've already invested in these animals. But I agree if we give them too long, then we've

1497
02:01:10,750 --> 02:01:17,650
weakened our ordinance and we won't see the impact of that. Thank you. Yes, Councillor Bolton.

1498
02:01:17,650 --> 02:01:22,790
My concern would be not giving them enough time because the puppy wants that only do the puppy

1499
02:01:22,790 --> 02:01:25,790
That's going to pretty much kick their business away from them.

1500
02:01:25,790 --> 02:01:32,990
That loan will probably still be able to stay open because they sell small animals and birds and fish and other things

1501
02:01:32,990 --> 02:01:36,930
But to two of the puppy places that would be it.

1502
02:01:37,050 --> 02:01:38,650
So a puppy's thinking all fairness.

1503
02:01:39,110 --> 02:01:42,490
If it was my business, I would want some time to figure out what I'm going to do.

1504
02:01:42,490 --> 02:01:47,170
Okay, sounds good. Yes, Council, I know you're animal lover.

1505
02:01:48,050 --> 02:01:49,150
I am. Yes, it's true.

1506
02:01:50,970 --> 02:01:53,830
I'll probably lay the pet stores are going to sue us, is that correct?

1507
02:01:54,550 --> 02:01:58,030
I don't know. I mean, you know, that's a turning question.

1508
02:01:58,470 --> 02:01:59,670
I mean, I have my assumptions,

1509
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:01,960
but.

1510
02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:04,740
I mean, I can't make a prediction on that.

1511
02:02:05,980 --> 02:02:11,180
You know, I've been involved in other, for other communities,

1512
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:18,240
things relate to where it impacts a pet store. A lot of the pet stores themselves are

1513
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:25,840
franchise operators. So unless it means something to corporate, the risk is probably

1514
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:30,940
pretty low as far as those franchisees doing something themselves.

1515
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:35,040
If it's just one store,

1516
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:39,640
I mean, I can't imagine Petland is going to be doing something here,

1517
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:58,380
but as y'all were discussing this, I kind of looked it up, and the general turnover for dogs and cats is at 12 weeks, the six months delays seems more than adequate to try to accommodate that.

1518
02:02:58,380 --> 02:03:02,700
Okay, thank you. And I agree, six months would be adequate.

1519
02:03:05,670 --> 02:03:06,650
Yes, Councillor Merch.

1520
02:03:07,610 --> 02:03:14,530
Isn't there another new puppy store in the Golds gym center? Yes. Yes.

1521
02:03:14,770 --> 02:03:17,670
That's the third one I couldn't remember. So Texas puppy company.

1522
02:03:17,990 --> 02:03:23,250
Yeah, there's the one up by the back of T as and then there's the one.

1523
02:03:23,710 --> 02:03:28,710
One behind the attorneys office now and then that one. So we've got three of them.

1524
02:03:28,710 --> 02:03:30,770
So there's, there's plus and minuses, right?

1525
02:03:31,010 --> 02:03:34,950
So anytime the city of San Antonio regulate,

1526
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:36,310
it's a business type.

1527
02:03:36,850 --> 02:03:39,250
Those business types move to smaller communities

1528
02:03:39,250 --> 02:03:40,790
that haven't updated their ordinance.

1529
02:03:41,450 --> 02:03:43,070
We actually looked at this ordinance,

1530
02:03:43,090 --> 02:03:44,390
I think at least seven times.

1531
02:03:44,410 --> 02:03:46,210
I mean, we, a bunch of times.

1532
02:03:46,230 --> 02:03:47,690
And the council didn't want to do.

1533
02:03:47,690 --> 02:03:49,070
It was called a puppy ban ordinance.

1534
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:51,950
And so the council at the time was not interested

1535
02:03:52,950 --> 02:03:55,690
in regulating commercial cells of animals.

1536
02:03:55,690 --> 02:04:03,250
And a big portion of that is, you know, there's some sales tax associated with that sale.

1537
02:04:03,530 --> 02:04:09,950
And so you are removing some of those dollars from your coffers when you do that.

1538
02:04:10,170 --> 02:04:13,310
And I'm not going to project how much that is going to be.

1539
02:04:14,390 --> 02:04:17,290
But it will impact your sales tax.

1540
02:04:18,650 --> 02:04:19,670
Yes, Councillor Mursch.

1541
02:04:21,170 --> 02:04:29,830
I'm asking because I have no idea, but if the city of San Antonio animal

1542
02:04:29,830 --> 02:04:35,550
divins leave all those kinds of places have these adoption things where they give you the

1543
02:04:35,550 --> 02:04:44,010
dog for $25, are we, are these private businesses going to be able to sell a

1544
02:04:44,010 --> 02:04:52,750
rescue dog for anything more than business will close. These businesses are set up to

1545
02:04:52,750 --> 02:04:58,690
sell specialized breeds and specialized breeds for what I would consider an exorbitant amount

1546
02:04:58,690 --> 02:05:01,290
of money. Some of the breeds go for $10,000.

1547
02:05:04,590 --> 02:05:08,530
If you go in, there's some for $3,000, there's

1548
02:05:08,530 --> 02:05:10,870
seeing them as high as 10,000 for special breeds.

1549
02:05:13,690 --> 02:05:19,590
So those that business model is set up for also lending,

1550
02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:22,630
people take out loans to purchase these jobs.

1551
02:05:23,610 --> 02:05:28,470
And so they use their in-house lender in order for them to purchase these animals.

1552
02:05:29,290 --> 02:05:29,990
Yes, Council Hall.

1553
02:05:30,110 --> 02:05:31,550
Dr. Caldera is correct.

1554
02:05:32,050 --> 02:05:36,770
It's I've seen animals in there for $10,000 and then I've seen some,

1555
02:05:36,770 --> 02:05:41,090
But the thing that really bothers me is there's animals that have been in there for seven

1556
02:05:41,090 --> 02:05:46,710
eight months in a cage and I really have a problem with that and if you wait long enough

1557
02:05:46,710 --> 02:05:47,910
they'll go on sale.

1558
02:05:48,450 --> 02:05:53,210
But also they're very anxious to give you a loan and I don't even want to know what the interest

1559
02:05:53,210 --> 02:05:54,030
rate is.

1560
02:05:54,570 --> 02:06:01,170
And I can't imagine taking out a loan, I could buy a car for what animals call them.

1561
02:06:01,850 --> 02:06:14,510
Okay, so is it generally the consensus is to add a accept the six month instead of immediately as far as not to find the existing businesses?

1562
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:17,570
Is there anything else we need to add to this ordinance?

1563
02:06:17,910 --> 02:06:30,410
So, but I do want to make a note because when me and you met with the Petland owner, they are pushing some legislation for next legislative session to help stop or come back local governments from

1564
02:06:30,410 --> 02:06:32,150
from making such ordinances.

1565
02:06:32,890 --> 02:06:35,670
So just for future reference that may be coming down the pike

1566
02:06:35,670 --> 02:06:37,230
in the next legislative session,

1567
02:06:37,230 --> 02:06:39,010
based on that meeting we had.

1568
02:06:39,450 --> 02:06:41,930
So in other words, they'll take this, this will be moved

1569
02:06:41,930 --> 02:06:45,610
then if the legislature could be, it could be,

1570
02:06:45,610 --> 02:06:48,590
depending on what the language is in the legislation

1571
02:06:48,590 --> 02:06:49,530
short lived.

1572
02:06:50,490 --> 02:06:53,010
It just more of an FYI than anything else.

1573
02:06:54,230 --> 02:06:55,930
city attorney, did you have something else?

1574
02:06:55,930 --> 02:06:59,650
I was just going to say, I've also seen Bill Z.

1575
02:06:59,770 --> 02:07:01,990
Absolute undernated degrees from that.

1576
02:07:02,910 --> 02:07:05,070
Say, you can't, you can't know longer cell paths.

1577
02:07:05,690 --> 02:07:08,770
Those have an infound traction, either so.

1578
02:07:09,110 --> 02:07:13,530
But Dr. Calder is correct, but that is something

1579
02:07:13,530 --> 02:07:14,930
that could always happen.

1580
02:07:16,010 --> 02:07:18,270
All right, so this is the first read.

1581
02:07:18,490 --> 02:07:20,830
So we will not need to vote on it tonight.

1582
02:07:20,930 --> 02:07:23,950
But is it the consensus of the council to put this

1583
02:07:23,950 --> 02:07:27,050
and the consent agenda for August 4th?

1584
02:07:27,050 --> 02:07:27,150
Yes.

1585
02:07:28,290 --> 02:07:29,390
What, what, sorry, one more thing.

1586
02:07:29,550 --> 02:07:29,970
Do you want...

1587
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:31,800
Mr. President, I think so.

1588
02:07:33,140 --> 02:07:35,800
It would be only fair to do that.

1589
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:36,700
It would be only fair to do that.

1590
02:07:36,700 --> 02:07:41,760
Yeah. We're acting in good faith to try that.

1591
02:07:41,860 --> 02:07:43,660
All right. I think so.

1592
02:07:44,140 --> 02:07:46,400
So we're talking, no to find three businesses.

1593
02:07:47,220 --> 02:07:48,180
Four, I think is four.

1594
02:07:48,180 --> 02:07:48,420
I forgot.

1595
02:07:48,420 --> 02:07:52,100
We've got the do one in, at Gold's gym. Okay. So four businesses.

1596
02:07:52,820 --> 02:07:54,100
It's a no to find four businesses.

1597
02:07:56,650 --> 02:08:05,830
It's Texas puppy, junior puppy, petland, and then they said there was another one.

1598
02:08:06,510 --> 02:08:07,070
That's old, Jim.

1599
02:08:07,410 --> 02:08:12,710
So there's one at Golds Jim, one next to mom and pop, Texas puppies down here, and

1600
02:08:12,710 --> 02:08:18,950
Tetland are the ones off the top of my head, I mean, I mean, just, you know, about the fourth one.

1601
02:08:19,450 --> 02:08:21,510
I thought the fourth one was junior pets.

1602
02:08:21,510 --> 02:08:27,410
that junior pad, the one that's by Rita's in the gold gems thing. That's a newest one.

1603
02:08:29,190 --> 02:08:35,310
We will get notification out to them. We will add this to as a second read. If I add this six

1604
02:08:35,310 --> 02:08:38,950
month extension, is it okay for it to go on consent or do y'all want to rehear it?

1605
02:08:39,850 --> 02:08:48,430
I don't think it's going. I mean, I'm afraid that would be asking for trouble if we tell these

1606
02:08:48,430 --> 02:08:56,530
people about it and then don't give them a chance to hear them, I mean, okay. We can always

1607
02:08:56,530 --> 02:09:01,550
pull it out, but that's okay. We can put it on if that's more transparent. I think that's

1608
02:09:01,550 --> 02:09:07,910
the issue. Okay, so to actually put it on the agenda for discussion on August 4th. Okay.

1609
02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:14,650
There are good. So that's a no. All right. We move then to agenda item 7.4. Presentation

1610
02:09:14,650 --> 02:09:22,170
discussion on amending ordinance chapter four business regulations article 4.14 short-term rentals

1611
02:09:22,170 --> 02:09:31,330
to expand prohibition from 200 feet on the same block face to 300 foot radius not claiming homestead

1612
02:09:31,330 --> 02:09:38,230
exemption on a home operating as a short-term rental establishing occupancy standards to maximum

1613
02:09:38,230 --> 02:09:46,850
floor area, allowing per occupant at 200 gross. Not allowing permits to be transferable,

1614
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:52,890
require that any trash dispersed beyond property boundaries, be collected, removed, and

1615
02:09:52,890 --> 02:10:00,190
disposed of within 24 hours. Again, this is our first read, we won't vote on it tonight. And again,

1616
02:10:00,330 --> 02:10:05,790
this is one of the agenda items that we discussed at the retreat. So, Dr. Caldera, if you'll continue.

1617
02:10:05,790 --> 02:10:06,490
Thank you.

1618
02:10:06,610 --> 02:10:07,390
Good evening Mayor and Council.

1619
02:10:07,550 --> 02:10:11,590
And so yes, this is the item and direction came from the Council at the City Manager Council

1620
02:10:11,590 --> 02:10:12,110
retreat.

1621
02:10:13,030 --> 02:10:19,310
We have outlined in the ordinance, expanding the radius to 300 feet, reduce the trash violation

1622
02:10:19,310 --> 02:10:25,470
time for remediation, add a provision to the application for Homestead Exemption, max number

1623
02:10:25,470 --> 02:10:31,650
of sleep based on the fire code, the permit is non-transferable, and a grandfathered permit

1624
02:10:31,650 --> 02:10:34,250
is pulled, it is abandoned, and then they would have

1625
02:10:34,250 --> 02:10:35,610
to reapply for a set permit.

1626
02:10:37,110 --> 02:10:38,370
There's no fiscal impact.

1627
02:10:38,630 --> 02:10:39,750
I know that there's been discussion

1628
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:43,110
from the city attorney in regards to the homestead exemption

1629
02:10:43,110 --> 02:10:47,630
and so kind of your thoughts on that kind of provision.

1630
02:10:48,510 --> 02:10:50,150
And I just stand by for questions.

1631
02:10:50,770 --> 02:10:55,190
Okay, did you want to address the homestead exemption provision

1632
02:10:55,190 --> 02:10:58,050
or just, I mean, well, I was gonna say,

1633
02:10:58,250 --> 02:10:59,530
how do we regulate that?

1634
02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:09,140
question. How do we know that somebody's taking a short-term rental as a home to the exemption?

1635
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:22,260
So my question is this. If your short-term rental is 100% a short-term rental, not somebody just

1636
02:11:22,260 --> 02:11:30,980
living there and renting a room or part of their home, or temporarily renting their home,

1637
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:38,560
That's the abuse that I'd like to address, but if it's difficult to monitor for the staff

1638
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:46,660
and it's not really through legal advice, not something that we should pursue, you know,

1639
02:11:46,780 --> 02:11:57,360
I'm fine with not pursuing that, but because I see in my neighborhood, the short-term

1640
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:04,380
Reynolds are a hundred percent short-term Reynolds and I have a gentleman that's down the street

1641
02:12:04,380 --> 02:12:09,880
from me. He lives in Austin and he says, well, I consider this my second home. It's kind

1642
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:16,680
of like, well, wait a minute, how do you have two homestead exemptions? That's what my concern

1643
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:28,380
And as our revenues going down, we need to minimize these exemptions as much as possible

1644
02:12:28,380 --> 02:12:31,960
when they're not truly due those exemptions.

1645
02:12:34,180 --> 02:12:34,340
Yes.

1646
02:12:34,340 --> 02:12:35,100
Councillor Merch.

1647
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:36,190
And then Councillor Roscoh.

1648
02:12:36,780 --> 02:12:43,020
Well, I thought the wording that I saw at the attorneys request was a pretty good way

1649
02:12:43,020 --> 02:12:50,140
go in terms of, you know, they identify whether they're claiming a home set exemption when they

1650
02:12:50,140 --> 02:12:56,300
apply for the permit and that if it comes to our attention, then we can do something about it.

1651
02:12:56,440 --> 02:13:03,900
We can then ask them to, you know, explain or whatever. I mean, it's nothing is going to be 100%.

1652
02:13:03,900 --> 02:13:11,780
But I think, if we, I mean, we can't regulate it, but we can, if, if it comes to our attention,

1653
02:13:12,020 --> 02:13:17,240
if we find out through other means or whatever, then it can be called for review or some,

1654
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:18,780
well, we don't review exemptions.

1655
02:13:19,180 --> 02:13:21,420
Well, no, I, I know that, but I just want to make that clear.

1656
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,880
They're permanent is called for review.

1657
02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,980
Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, I just want to make that very clear.

1658
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:29,520
Nobody reports that somebody doesn't have, I'm not doing research.

1659
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:30,980
I'm not looking that up.

1660
02:13:30,980 --> 02:13:33,140
I'm not digging into somebody's personal life

1661
02:13:33,140 --> 02:13:34,840
and trying to determine whether or not

1662
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:36,720
they have the correct exemption or not.

1663
02:13:36,860 --> 02:13:40,160
The best I'll do is we can call the county,

1664
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:42,640
the prison, and I gave you all the number

1665
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:44,160
if you all want to report people.

1666
02:13:44,940 --> 02:13:47,440
I'm not in the position or will I put my staff

1667
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:49,500
in a position to question somebody's exemption.

1668
02:13:49,700 --> 02:13:51,260
That just opens up a can of worms.

1669
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:52,940
In this world, let's go with you.

1670
02:13:52,980 --> 02:13:53,140
I'm sorry.

1671
02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:58,120
I don't have any jurisdiction on the homestead exemption.

1672
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:05,060
There was my concern for being bees were coming in and to begin with the one that lived

1673
02:14:05,060 --> 02:14:11,320
by Mr. Stevens house, they wanted to do the fence and we found out that they were getting

1674
02:14:11,860 --> 02:14:18,300
homestead, exemption, not only that, but at two other houses that he was really living in.

1675
02:14:18,500 --> 02:14:22,700
Yeah, he was claiming housing, you know, and we didn't have any jurisdiction that we can do nothing

1676
02:14:22,700 --> 02:14:29,440
about it. But I can see, I mean, they've kind of hit my nerve. You know, he's getting

1677
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:37,320
away with all this. But I think at the time, we really didn't have any jurisdiction to,

1678
02:14:37,380 --> 02:14:43,020
because we can bring it up to the county tax office and see what they want to do about

1679
02:14:43,020 --> 02:14:49,460
it. But we really, we were, we have to try to be behind our back on this.

1680
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:52,220
But I guess that's what I think.

1681
02:14:52,360 --> 02:14:52,840
I'm not a lawyer.

1682
02:14:53,060 --> 02:14:54,400
No, I was going to ask you.

1683
02:14:54,900 --> 02:14:59,980
The attorneys that better just have it in there as the prison.

1684
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,780
To have it as currently written?

1685
02:15:02,980 --> 02:15:05,320
To have it in the amended ordinance.

1686
02:15:07,140 --> 02:15:10,060
Because you never know if.

1687
02:15:10,060 --> 02:15:14,900
I mean, whether it's better or not, I mean, is a policy decision that I'm going to leave,

1688
02:15:15,020 --> 02:15:18,400
do y'all to decide, however, what I will still use this.

1689
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:24,460
With respect to whether a property is properly exempted with the homestead,

1690
02:15:25,060 --> 02:15:27,900
as has been said, is not our determination.

1691
02:15:27,900 --> 02:15:39,040
That's something within the the purview of the prairie district. I agree with Dr. Caldera, the city staff should not be in a position of seeking to try to change that.

1692
02:15:39,460 --> 02:15:52,220
Whether you, whether that's a condition of it of your ordinance of registration process is is really just a policy decision that you're all going to have to make.

1693
02:15:52,220 --> 02:15:57,260
Yeah, I've advised y'all before as to where your parameters are kind of.

1694
02:15:57,460 --> 02:16:03,600
This would be something that is completely outside of something that's been challenged before.

1695
02:16:03,900 --> 02:16:09,420
So I can give, you know, I can't give you, I can't handicap that one for you.

1696
02:16:09,860 --> 02:16:14,640
That makes sense as to whether that, whether that would be in bounds or out of bounds.

1697
02:16:15,420 --> 02:16:25,740
So it's just a matter of, as a policy matter, you know where, you know what the legal constraints are with respect to, if a homestay exemption can be claimed,

1698
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:39,900
is that, is that going to be a metric by which you determine whether to file a, or allow somebody under your permitting scheme that you all have adopted.

1699
02:16:41,080 --> 02:16:47,980
I can guarantee all that that would be held to be permissible or impromissible based on

1700
02:16:47,980 --> 02:16:50,200
based on the current state of the case law.

1701
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:51,540
But it has been challenged.

1702
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:53,100
Not that I'm aware.

1703
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:53,520
You're not.

1704
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:54,560
It has not been challenged.

1705
02:16:55,260 --> 02:16:55,440
All right.

1706
02:16:55,500 --> 02:16:56,120
Just to clarify.

1707
02:16:57,760 --> 02:16:58,420
Thank you.

1708
02:16:58,420 --> 02:16:59,020
Did you get that?

1709
02:16:59,240 --> 02:16:59,260
Yes.

1710
02:16:59,340 --> 02:17:00,040
Councilor Hile.

1711
02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:03,360
What are the chances of the county even doing anything about it?

1712
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:04,080
They're so busy.

1713
02:17:04,320 --> 02:17:04,820
They're so short.

1714
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:07,000
I'm not going to make presumption.

1715
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:07,300
No.

1716
02:17:07,300 --> 02:17:14,200
Yeah, I would assume they won't even care if we know to find that. I don't know the compost has six houses

1717
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:22,000
And he's doing home set exemption on everyone. We probably say okay. I don't know and I'm not going to presume to know what the county

1718
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:24,100
Or that it's not really the county. The praise of district will do

1719
02:17:25,320 --> 02:17:29,980
You know, so if for me it's more of putting my staff in a precarious position

1720
02:17:29,980 --> 02:17:35,420
You know challenging somebody's exemption is more of my concern to try to enforce an ordinance

1721
02:17:35,420 --> 02:17:41,100
You know, I'd be like me going to Mr. Roskell saying, I don't think you deserve the VA exemption.

1722
02:17:41,380 --> 02:17:44,080
I mean, who am I to challenge his exemption, right?

1723
02:17:44,820 --> 02:17:51,220
So that's more of the position I feel like you're putting the staff in kind of one of those situations.

1724
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:55,300
But I think if you have knowledge of somebody defrauding,

1725
02:17:55,740 --> 02:18:01,280
I think if you feel the need to have justice in that realm, report them to their original district,

1726
02:18:01,460 --> 02:18:02,860
you have the ability to do so.

1727
02:18:04,980 --> 02:18:11,860
I would just say this, that as presently constituted the language, basically, well,

1728
02:18:12,500 --> 02:18:17,840
expressly says that a short criminal registration holder shall not claim a homestead exemption.

1729
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:23,220
It doesn't provide any, it doesn't provide any definition of it.

1730
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:27,220
It's just a straight out, it's a straight out prohibition.

1731
02:18:27,220 --> 02:18:33,840
Now, understand where Mr. Comples is coming from if someone is leasing it all year long

1732
02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:38,180
or renting it out all year long versus the occasional provider.

1733
02:18:38,560 --> 02:18:41,280
This doesn't distinguish between those two situations.

1734
02:18:42,020 --> 02:18:47,720
This is a, if you do it on your homestead and you go on vacation and you want to have someone

1735
02:18:47,720 --> 02:18:54,800
else come in during rodeo week, then you can't have a homestead exemption.

1736
02:18:54,800 --> 02:19:11,840
I think there's a real problem, I will say that there's a real problem in not making at least making a distinction between someone that is occasionally renting versus someone that is renting for a long period of time.

1737
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:15,320
And then for me, then it becomes overly complicated, right?

1738
02:19:15,320 --> 02:19:16,060
What is occasionally?

1739
02:19:16,500 --> 02:19:17,440
What are we looking at?

1740
02:19:17,580 --> 02:19:19,180
How many times is considered, you know what I mean?

1741
02:19:19,180 --> 02:19:21,740
And then you put definitions, and then my staff is supposed to say,

1742
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:24,400
prove to me that you were on vacating, like, you know,

1743
02:19:24,700 --> 02:19:25,980
I don't can't enforce that.

1744
02:19:26,060 --> 02:19:28,820
I don't know when you're at the rodeo or occasionally doing something.

1745
02:19:29,600 --> 02:19:33,680
That's the position that I have issue with the ordinance is when it's in an

1746
02:19:33,680 --> 02:19:37,280
ordinance, you're asking my staff to enforce said ordinance.

1747
02:19:37,580 --> 02:19:41,480
And so I just don't want to put them in a position to try to make a

1748
02:19:41,480 --> 02:19:44,420
and just to piggyback on that.

1749
02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:46,480
It's not only asking them to enforce it,

1750
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:49,580
but also we need, remember,

1751
02:19:49,940 --> 02:19:52,840
beyond the reasonable doubt, proof that this is occurring.

1752
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:56,480
And that's just, and that's where the difficulty is.

1753
02:19:56,760 --> 02:19:58,460
It's not so much in the wording.

1754
02:19:59,060 --> 02:20:00,760
It's in how we go and do enforce it,

1755
02:20:00,900 --> 02:20:02,340
which means what's, what's our proof,

1756
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:03,860
we have a proof problem.

1757
02:20:04,380 --> 02:20:05,780
That's a clear, public information.

1758
02:20:06,340 --> 02:20:07,980
You can just go into the Bear County Records

1759
02:20:07,980 --> 02:20:10,920
and see if it has a home exemption on there.

1760
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:15,560
and see who's names on there, and you cross-reference it to see where else are they living there.

1761
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:19,120
Well, what other properties they have, and what kind of, it's on information.

1762
02:20:20,660 --> 02:20:25,360
My wife is excellent at finding stuff out like that. You need a personnel to come work here for you to do that.

1763
02:20:25,860 --> 02:20:27,080
I've got the right person.

1764
02:20:28,060 --> 02:20:28,300
Okay.

1765
02:20:29,580 --> 02:20:31,640
Councillor Hyl and then Councillor Compton.

1766
02:20:31,880 --> 02:20:40,900
So can we have some course of action if a complaint is made and that another citizen does the

1767
02:20:40,900 --> 02:20:43,780
that, you know, something like that.

1768
02:20:43,980 --> 02:20:46,160
I'm not having citizens do an investigation.

1769
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:49,260
I mean, I mean, I can't stop them from,

1770
02:20:49,380 --> 02:20:51,960
no, no, but what I'm saying is is,

1771
02:20:51,980 --> 02:20:53,780
if you don't have this in here,

1772
02:20:53,900 --> 02:20:56,560
there's nothing that stops the regular citizenry

1773
02:20:56,560 --> 02:20:58,060
from doing that right now.

1774
02:20:58,120 --> 02:20:59,880
You don't need that in a city ordinance,

1775
02:20:59,960 --> 02:21:01,560
because once it's in a city ordinance,

1776
02:21:01,960 --> 02:21:04,800
then you're telling the staff that that's a provision

1777
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:07,980
that we are to enforce to some degree.

1778
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,700
And I'm big on trying to have ordinances

1779
02:21:10,700 --> 02:21:14,620
that we can we have a couple of ordinances on the book that there's no way for me to enforce so

1780
02:21:14,620 --> 02:21:21,400
it's not like that doesn't happen. If this is in here I'm just letting you know ahead of time

1781
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:25,860
you can leave it in there. I just don't think that there's a way for my staff to enforce that

1782
02:21:25,860 --> 02:21:33,960
section that way is all I'm saying. Okay. Councilor Kompos, I called on you next and then

1783
02:21:33,960 --> 02:21:39,280
Councilor Bolton. So based on the conversation that we've had here in the die of sin listening

1784
02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:47,760
to our city attorney. I'd like to make a recommendation that we strike. The Section 4

1785
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:57,460
1 or dot 0 0 5 restrictions on short-term rentals, Section J or item J.

1786
02:22:00,060 --> 02:22:01,640
That would take

1787
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:08,640
I understand what how the position that you're coming from, from the staff, trying to enforce it.

1788
02:22:09,580 --> 02:22:11,540
I understand the legal issue.

1789
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:18,760
If somebody has a problem with it, we can all call, as citizens, to the bare-priced district or wherever we need to call,

1790
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:22,860
and say, hey, I believe blah, and that would be done with it.

1791
02:22:25,100 --> 02:22:26,340
Okay, does everyone agree?

1792
02:22:27,040 --> 02:22:28,380
Because we're not voting, right?

1793
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:29,960
I just want to have consensus tonight.

1794
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:36,280
Okay, so we're going to get rid of the homestead exemption language then in the ordinance. Is that correct?

1795
02:22:36,540 --> 02:22:39,240
The bottom of page 3 on the draft.

1796
02:22:40,700 --> 02:22:44,620
Their packet numbers are a little bit different, but yes, Jay. So I'll go ahead and make that

1797
02:22:44,620 --> 02:22:50,700
deletion for next time. Do you, is this item, do you want to have on your consent agenda?

1798
02:22:50,900 --> 02:22:53,720
Or do you want to have it in your regular agenda again for further discussion?

1799
02:22:54,960 --> 02:22:56,200
I'm okay with consent agenda.

1800
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,500
because we've made that one major change.

1801
02:22:58,940 --> 02:23:01,240
Okay, so the consent agenda for next meeting,

1802
02:23:01,380 --> 02:23:02,680
which is August 4th.

1803
02:23:02,860 --> 02:23:03,820
Okay, thank you.

1804
02:23:03,940 --> 02:23:04,800
I appreciate that.

1805
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:08,740
Okay, then moving then to agenda item 7.5.

1806
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:12,140
And again, we can vote on this tonight,

1807
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:15,080
discussion and possible action on an application

1808
02:23:15,080 --> 02:23:19,500
for a BYOB permit for Wolfspar Nexus,

1809
02:23:19,780 --> 02:23:24,880
a PC gaming destination, located at 7-007,

1810
02:23:24,880 --> 02:23:31,920
vendor road sweet 7 team and we have Michael Gallardo or planning and so need director here this evening

1811
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:37,400
to present thank you you've been so patient waiting for your agenda item. So thank you so much.

1812
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:38,400
Absolutely.

1813
02:23:40,490 --> 02:23:42,730
We'll just jump right in.

1814
02:23:52,990 --> 02:23:57,810
Okay so question before city council is whether or not

1815
02:23:57,810 --> 02:24:01,330
to approve of application for a BYOB,

1816
02:24:01,970 --> 02:24:07,150
permit to be located at 7,000, 7, and there are roads week 17.

1817
02:24:08,830 --> 02:24:13,170
The facility is called Wolf's Bar Nexus, and if you're not familiar with that,

1818
02:24:13,330 --> 02:24:15,550
it's a PC gaming environment or facility.

1819
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:20,690
So basically used for entertainment purposes,

1820
02:24:21,030 --> 02:24:24,710
where people go and, I guess, play video games,

1821
02:24:25,930 --> 02:24:28,430
to just kind of summarize that for you.

1822
02:24:28,490 --> 02:24:32,730
So your options are to approve, deny, or other.

1823
02:24:33,470 --> 02:24:36,530
Step from the clairs that the BYOB

1824
02:24:36,530 --> 02:24:39,130
permanent is compatible with the surrounding area

1825
02:24:39,130 --> 02:24:41,410
or the zone for that.

1826
02:24:41,410 --> 02:24:43,210
Here's your real view of that.

1827
02:24:43,410 --> 02:24:44,770
You're going to see that it's kind of,

1828
02:24:44,770 --> 02:24:46,070
I guess you can say directly behind

1829
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:48,010
where the seven brews being built.

1830
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:51,980
I'm sorry you said where the what's being built?

1831
02:24:52,180 --> 02:24:52,880
Seven brews.

1832
02:24:52,880 --> 02:24:53,720
Oh, seven brews.

1833
02:24:53,740 --> 02:24:54,380
That's right.

1834
02:24:54,380 --> 02:24:55,360
Okay.

1835
02:24:56,980 --> 02:24:58,560
The applicant has paid all the fees.

1836
02:24:59,160 --> 02:24:59,880
Excuse me.

1837
02:24:59,980 --> 02:25:00,420
Excuse me just a second.

1838
02:25:00,620 --> 02:25:01,100
We have a comment.

1839
02:25:03,940 --> 02:25:04,620
Yeah.

1840
02:25:05,700 --> 02:25:05,840
Yeah.

1841
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:08,540
Thank you for letting me know that.

1842
02:25:09,300 --> 02:25:09,680
Okay.

1843
02:25:10,180 --> 02:25:10,840
Anyone else?

1844
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:12,300
Better?

1845
02:25:14,560 --> 02:25:14,840
Okay.

1846
02:25:15,540 --> 02:25:16,260
Thank you.

1847
02:25:16,620 --> 02:25:16,800
Okay.

1848
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:22,820
The applicant has paid all fees associated with the BYOB permit application.

1849
02:25:22,820 --> 02:25:29,820
the applicant may apply for more, for no more than four consecutive permits and then the

1850
02:25:29,820 --> 02:25:31,800
permit is good for 90 days.

1851
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:39,240
And before I go any further Mr. Chumli couldn't be here today

1852
02:25:39,240 --> 02:25:45,480
because he did have to actually man the facility this evening. So he wasn't able to make it.

1853
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:52,760
Okay. Councillor Arraska. Thank you, Michael. Are they doing this so they can apply for

1854
02:25:52,760 --> 02:25:57,620
But a liquor license, and then I know he takes it while to get it.

1855
02:25:57,900 --> 02:26:02,620
So based on my conversation with him, in fact, I have some notes here where he says,

1856
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:07,280
it's not really intended to sell alcohol, so he's not going to go that route.

1857
02:26:07,660 --> 02:26:14,500
He's just going to utilize it for like tournaments, special occasions, just events, even

1858
02:26:14,500 --> 02:26:19,140
watch parties where he's going to allow patriot to bring in their own alcohol, but he's

1859
02:26:19,140 --> 02:26:25,540
in the process of selling alcohol nowadays at this time. Does he even want to go that route?

1860
02:26:27,260 --> 02:26:35,500
I don't know the quick. What about his clientele? His clientele or is he going to have a young adults under the age of 21?

1861
02:26:36,880 --> 02:26:42,240
So, in speaking with the chief of police, you know, these are questions that we ask them because there's concern for that.

1862
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:48,900
his response was that they're going to have policies and procedures set in place so that you know

1863
02:26:50,140 --> 02:26:58,440
only people that are 21 enough or have access to that up on. So those are his words, you know,

1864
02:26:58,580 --> 02:27:03,540
basically he's going to do his due diligence to. So he's going to ensure that himself. He's going to

1865
02:27:03,540 --> 02:27:09,040
regulate himself. Okay. So he'll have policies and practices in place for that. Okay. Yes,

1866
02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:16,120
Councillor Bolton and the business plan behind this if it's only good for 360 days maximum

1867
02:27:16,880 --> 02:27:22,640
Why even started if it's only going to be good for that long it just doesn't make sense

1868
02:27:23,860 --> 02:27:32,180
So you'll be able to do four consecutive one right for 90 days which 360 and then at some point he'll be able to renew and start all over again

1869
02:27:32,180 --> 02:27:32,820
so

1870
02:27:33,340 --> 02:27:40,320
Oh, okay. I understood that it was only four times that they could renew that that was it. It just doesn't make sense to it.

1871
02:27:40,620 --> 02:27:49,140
It is only four times. It is only four times for them. They only get four. The idea that the council had when we were looking at this particular

1872
02:27:49,140 --> 02:28:00,360
B-Y-O-B license was to bridge a gap between the business owner getting a liquor license was the whole reason that we did the B-O-B provision.

1873
02:28:01,340 --> 02:28:04,060
So they were saying it took an average of about a year.

1874
02:28:04,280 --> 02:28:10,400
And so if this was a model they wanted to continue to have, or to set up for businesses that wanted a whole special events.

1875
02:28:10,400 --> 02:28:19,820
So, if he did want to hold a tournament, then he could apply for it for that tournament, and then later on down the line, maybe once a year, be able to do that.

1876
02:28:20,060 --> 02:28:24,540
But the idea of the BYUB ordinance was only to allow for consecutive uses.

1877
02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:32,400
There's not a renewal section in that code that says after two years you can reapply or after a year you can reapply.

1878
02:28:33,380 --> 02:28:38,960
In provision in the ordinance unless you want to make a change to the BYUB ordinance to allow for renewal.

1879
02:28:38,960 --> 02:28:41,680
But as of right now, on the current BIOB ordinance,

1880
02:28:42,020 --> 02:28:42,800
there is not,

1881
02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:44,360
it's just very nice.

1882
02:28:44,620 --> 02:28:47,380
After four renewals, that's it.

1883
02:28:47,380 --> 02:28:50,260
Even if you go out and you get your license from,

1884
02:28:50,360 --> 02:28:53,620
there is not a TABC, yeah, correct.

1885
02:28:53,740 --> 02:28:55,660
In the actual ordinance itself,

1886
02:28:55,860 --> 02:28:57,940
there is unless it lives somewhere else

1887
02:28:57,940 --> 02:28:59,420
that I'm just unaware of,

1888
02:28:59,860 --> 02:29:02,660
there is no provision to renew after a year.

1889
02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:04,580
That isn't say like after the four consecutive,

1890
02:29:05,380 --> 02:29:07,060
you're eligible for renewal.

1891
02:29:08,960 --> 02:29:11,240
That's what I wanted to declare by yes, Councillor.

1892
02:29:11,580 --> 02:29:11,840
Marsh.

1893
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:19,280
So if he's trying to use this for special events or tournaments, he can have one BYOB permit

1894
02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:23,700
and let's say it goes till the end of the year, that's just three months.

1895
02:29:24,220 --> 02:29:27,840
And then he's not going to have another tournament until six months later.

1896
02:29:28,020 --> 02:29:35,040
Can he opt not to renew right away and extend his coverage time based on his scheduling

1897
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:35,920
of his tournaments?

1898
02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:36,820
Correct.

1899
02:29:37,340 --> 02:29:37,360
Yes.

1900
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:52,180
Okay. Now, the BYUB ordinance has not been challenged, and I know in the original conversation about the BYUB conversation was whether or not we could set a parameter for it to begin with.

1901
02:29:52,360 --> 02:29:59,540
So I don't know if this will be the business that will challenge that because state law allows businesses to have a BYUB.

1902
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:19,800
The first thing I would like to say is, that this is a very extreme thing that, by saying, you need a permit and that permit is supposed to be for 90 days, for for for consecutive times, but, it is part of that ordinance. There wasn't an option, like after a year, after two years, and he could reapply for a BIOB. There's not that provision and that BIOB ordinance.

1903
02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:33,640
Another question completely, so if the owner is planning on implementing policies to limit

1904
02:30:34,140 --> 02:30:41,720
the BYOB to only over 21, what's going to stop younger people from being in the facility

1905
02:30:42,300 --> 02:30:47,080
and participating in the tournament while the guy next to him has the BYOB?

1906
02:30:47,080 --> 02:30:51,380
It doesn't, and so that was my, I had told the mayor this when we talked yesterday, that

1907
02:30:51,380 --> 02:30:56,220
was my concern with the BAAOB, but because this is a permit, I don't get to really kind

1908
02:30:56,220 --> 02:30:57,100
of give my recommendation.

1909
02:30:57,220 --> 02:31:00,640
But my recommendation is gaming systems are set up for all ages.

1910
02:31:01,540 --> 02:31:07,280
And so you could have an adult drinking with a child very close.

1911
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:10,360
There's not, and I haven't taken a tour of the facility.

1912
02:31:11,020 --> 02:31:15,040
I don't know if there's going to be one room for kids in one room for adults.

1913
02:31:15,060 --> 02:31:18,320
My understanding, it's one open room, and everybody can participate.

1914
02:31:18,320 --> 02:31:25,520
It's an open area with little stations, but it's similar to like what you would see at a main event

1915
02:31:26,420 --> 02:31:30,240
You know, you have a don't string inside by side with playing big games.

1916
02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:32,160
So there's now we have a

1917
02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:35,800
Yes, go ahead and miss to compass. Well if they had at main event

1918
02:31:36,660 --> 02:31:38,840
It's not a BYOB

1919
02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:43,820
Right the facility is it is it don't they have a liquor license right they still all call in this case

1920
02:31:43,820 --> 02:31:48,060
You're just allowed to bring it in right but they're when you to me

1921
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:55,860
if I understand that if you have a liquor license, then you're jeopardizing somebody who's dispensing

1922
02:31:55,860 --> 02:31:58,440
it as a license and they're responsible.

1923
02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:05,400
I personally am not supportive of this. I think there

1924
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:11,680
is going to be so many mixed ages. And also, you know, I'm still thinking of that hookabar

1925
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:18,500
that we had, that had BIOB and all of us and I was asking questions as to what their hours were

1926
02:32:18,500 --> 02:32:23,800
because, you know, the Hucobar state opened to four o'clock. Crime was happening.

1927
02:32:25,740 --> 02:32:31,920
That was my concerns. Councillor Pilton. When you have a liquor license through TABC,

1928
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:39,000
everyone who serves alcohol has, has a certification. They are trained on what to look for and

1929
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:44,540
to serve them when not to serve. By having a BYOB you're taking that equation out because there's

1930
02:32:44,540 --> 02:32:48,800
no one who's going to be held liable if that person goes and kills somebody on the way home.

1931
02:32:55,060 --> 02:33:01,440
Nelson Marsh. I guess now it makes me concerned about the BYOB permit that we gave to the stage

1932
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:08,900
coach, craft store or whatever. There's going to be kids in there too. So now I'm really confused.

1933
02:33:08,900 --> 02:33:18,080
I mean, we didn't even have this discussion about that venue when it's clearly something that, you know, kids can go to.

1934
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:23,280
Yes, but you're talking, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought it was more adult classes at the staging.

1935
02:33:24,500 --> 02:33:25,860
That's the comment I was going to make.

1936
02:33:26,460 --> 02:33:27,820
That business type.

1937
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:33,120
You're not having 12-year-old kids say, let's go vintage shop, right? If they're going, they're going with a parent.

1938
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:40,700
over here, this is geared towards means gaming, right? So you are going to have a

1939
02:33:41,780 --> 02:33:48,200
teenagers wanting to go play in using the gaming system. But again, it was more of my concern

1940
02:33:48,200 --> 02:33:53,980
of the regulation of the amount of alcohol that an adult is able to bring in. And if the

1941
02:33:53,980 --> 02:33:59,000
vintage shop, the question was whether or not they could drink while they painted or do a

1942
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:02,880
project or whatever. And they closed early too. Right, they closed it like

1943
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:06,300
seven o'clock. And the question came up whether or not we can regulate the time and

1944
02:34:06,300 --> 02:34:12,780
this isn't an SUP. This is just you authorizing a permit for a BIOB. And so those

1945
02:34:12,780 --> 02:34:17,420
were my concerns, but because again, we're not discussing an SUP or discussing

1946
02:34:17,420 --> 02:34:22,480
whether or not to give them the permit to have a BIOB permit at their facility to

1947
02:34:22,480 --> 02:34:30,220
adults to bring in alcohol and drink while they're game. For those of you unfamiliar with

1948
02:34:30,220 --> 02:34:38,640
gaming, gaming scenarios can go on on a computer for hours, half a day. And so the amount of

1949
02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:46,520
alcohol you can consume in those hours versus a one-hour project at a vintage paint by number

1950
02:34:46,520 --> 02:34:52,160
situation is very different than gaming scenarios. So those were the questions that I had,

1951
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:56,780
had a conversation with the chief and those really kinds of the concerns that came up.

1952
02:34:57,120 --> 02:34:57,780
Councillor Roscoe.

1953
02:34:57,960 --> 02:34:58,460
Thank you, Mayor.

1954
02:34:58,780 --> 02:35:02,720
I'm also getting flashback from the Hooker Lounge, a matter of fact, I'm sure

1955
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:06,140
Congress and I, with the one said, made the motion to close it down.

1956
02:35:06,980 --> 02:35:15,720
And I don't see there have been any control inside, and, of course, it had license to

1957
02:35:15,720 --> 02:35:17,600
have that responsibility they have to take control.

1958
02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:29,740
I can see a getting on a hand, I can see under age drinking, I just, I just had bad taste

1959
02:35:29,740 --> 02:35:32,600
and mouth on the hook of lunch and I'm told you against it as well.

1960
02:35:33,700 --> 02:35:34,980
All right, anyone else?

1961
02:35:37,180 --> 02:35:40,740
I do want to make the distinction just for the record because it may come up later.

1962
02:35:41,300 --> 02:35:47,720
The hook allowance was an after-hours club and there's music and it was a different, again,

1963
02:35:47,720 --> 02:35:49,360
and we're talking about targeted businesses.

1964
02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:52,160
It was a different type of business model.

1965
02:35:53,140 --> 02:35:56,920
And so I think it's just kind of important to know

1966
02:35:56,920 --> 02:35:58,960
if we're gonna, it's not the same comparison

1967
02:35:58,960 --> 02:36:01,580
but it's still think that there's issues with it.

1968
02:36:01,620 --> 02:36:03,320
Don't they stay open till like 11?

1969
02:36:03,560 --> 02:36:06,220
It's midnight, but the hook allowance was,

1970
02:36:06,340 --> 02:36:07,080
they're talking the morning.

1971
02:36:07,240 --> 02:36:07,420
Correct.

1972
02:36:07,420 --> 02:36:09,420
It was midnight till early morning,

1973
02:36:09,460 --> 02:36:10,380
five or six o'clock in the morning.

1974
02:36:10,440 --> 02:36:11,680
So I just want to make that distinction.

1975
02:36:12,140 --> 02:36:16,240
Yes, so they stay open to 10, Monday, Tuesday, Friday

1976
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:19,500
and Saturday, he's open to midnight, close on Sundays.

1977
02:36:20,020 --> 02:36:21,180
Thank you for that.

1978
02:36:21,200 --> 02:36:22,320
Councillor Colbus.

1979
02:36:22,820 --> 02:36:25,980
I would agree with that it's not the same, however,

1980
02:36:26,460 --> 02:36:31,340
you're dealing with lower, younger, aged participants.

1981
02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:35,300
And that's where I'm having trouble with.

1982
02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:37,780
Okay.

1983
02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:38,760
I'll do the motion.

1984
02:36:39,140 --> 02:36:39,380
Yes.

1985
02:36:39,620 --> 02:36:40,280
We're having motion.

1986
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:41,020
And I have a motion.

1987
02:36:41,080 --> 02:36:42,500
Yes, Councillor Roscoe.

1988
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:43,280
Thank you, Mayor.

1989
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:45,400
I'd like to make a motion.

1990
02:36:45,400 --> 02:36:56,320
9.7.5, denying the application for the BIOB permit, I can give you the whole thing.

1991
02:36:57,760 --> 02:37:04,500
Or Walskron, next is at PC gaming destination located at 70007 Bindale Road.

1992
02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:13,340
All right, we have a motion by Councillor Arrasco, and a second by Councillor Compos to deny the

1993
02:37:13,340 --> 02:37:23,540
application for a BIO permit to Wolfs bar next is the PC gaming destination located at 7-0-0-0-7-bender

1994
02:37:23,540 --> 02:37:25,540
road, any further discussion.

1995
02:37:28,920 --> 02:37:29,980
All those in favor say aye.

1996
02:37:30,210 --> 02:37:41,370
Aye. Any opposed? That's the unanimous. Is that correct? The motion does pass for a denial unanimously. Thank you.

1997
02:37:42,430 --> 02:37:58,610
All right. Moving then to 7.6, presentation and discussion on an ordinance amending, chapter 6, health and sanitation, article 6.02, food establishments, section 6.02.002, definition of food.

1998
02:37:58,610 --> 02:38:05,710
establishments to amend food establishment definitions and add definitions for child care center

1999
02:38:05,710 --> 02:38:16,570
school food service operation and mobile food vendor section 6.02.003 licenses permits and

2000
02:38:16,570 --> 02:38:25,110
sections, subsection E1 and subsection 8 to comply with state law and amending appendix

2001
02:38:25,110 --> 02:38:35,930
A Feset Schedule, Article A6.00, Food Establishments, Section A6.001, License Feseste

2002
02:38:35,930 --> 02:38:43,610
leading mobile food, vending license fee of $120 and mobile food truck vending food license

2003
02:38:43,610 --> 02:38:51,850
of $35 and repealing ordinance 2021-58. Again, this is our first read as required by City Council,

2004
02:38:52,110 --> 02:39:00,010
so we won't vote on it tonight, but we will, and again, this is, this is because not from the

2005
02:39:00,010 --> 02:39:04,830
retreat, but this is because state law chain. They legislate, right? That's why we're addressing it.

2006
02:39:04,850 --> 02:39:09,410
Okay, thank you, Mr. Garardo. If you please continue and welcome back.

2007
02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:18,480
So, again, the question before city council is to approve whether or not to approve the amendments to chapter 6 and sanitation.

2008
02:39:19,400 --> 02:39:22,260
So, your options are to approve, deny your other.

2009
02:39:23,820 --> 02:39:31,420
Staff the players that all amendments should be should follow state law subsequently approve of the amendments, right?

2010
02:39:33,350 --> 02:39:39,930
So, this is required, you know, again, so that we comply with state legislations,

2011
02:39:39,930 --> 02:39:46,990
specifically, the first part of it is going to be HP 2844, which is pretty much prefer to

2012
02:39:46,990 --> 02:39:55,390
as the food truck freedom act. And we're also amending Section 6.022.022 definitions of food

2013
02:39:55,390 --> 02:40:02,290
establishments. So it's to amend the definition of food establishments. Meaning that we're just

2014
02:40:02,290 --> 02:40:09,790
going to have the same meaning assigned in the Texas food establishment rules. 25 Texas administrative

2015
02:40:09,790 --> 02:40:16,790
code chapter 228 as amended. So the last part as amended is important because when state legislation

2016
02:40:16,790 --> 02:40:21,110
goes back and they make other changes what the arse will just follow whatever they change.

2017
02:40:21,970 --> 02:40:25,630
And you can thank Dr. Calvator for that.

2018
02:40:25,970 --> 02:40:39,770
Amendment Section 6.02.002 definitions of food establishments. So here we're going to add

2019
02:40:39,770 --> 02:40:43,390
So, the definition for Child Care Center,

2020
02:40:43,910 --> 02:40:46,950
so have the meaning assigned by the Texas Food Establishment

2021
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:50,530
rules and applicable state licensing regulations.

2022
02:40:51,950 --> 02:40:54,690
We're adding school food service operation,

2023
02:40:55,310 --> 02:40:57,870
which means food service operation operated

2024
02:40:57,870 --> 02:41:00,930
by a public school district, charter school,

2025
02:41:01,150 --> 02:41:03,730
or accredited private school subject to state

2026
02:41:03,730 --> 02:41:06,090
or federal school nutrition programs.

2027
02:41:07,610 --> 02:41:12,890
Lastly, we're going to add mobile food vendor, which means a person operating in a food

2028
02:41:12,890 --> 02:41:20,890
vending vehicle license by the Texas Department of State Health Services pursuing to Texas

2029
02:41:20,890 --> 02:41:23,790
health and safety coach, Chapter 437B.

2030
02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:34,260
As part of our other amendments, we are going to amend Section 6.02, 0.003 licenses, permits,

2031
02:41:34,260 --> 02:41:51,680
and exemptions, E1 by exempting public schools, licensed child care facilities, various facilities and college food operations from obtaining the city food establishment permit, while in compliance with the state requirements.

2032
02:41:52,440 --> 02:41:57,720
So, essentially, that's just saying that, you know, the city can't charge for a permit

2033
02:41:57,720 --> 02:42:00,060
when the state already has charged them.

2034
02:42:02,890 --> 02:42:08,910
So, Section E, a food store or establishment operated solely by a nonprofit organization,

2035
02:42:08,990 --> 02:42:12,730
an exit exam from the permit and requirements of this article,

2036
02:42:13,270 --> 02:42:15,870
but not exempt from compliance with state rules.

2037
02:42:16,610 --> 02:42:21,990
The regulatory authority may require any information necessary to determine whether an organization

2038
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:26,090
is nonprofit for purposes of this exemption.

2039
02:42:27,910 --> 02:42:33,890
So, subset one of that, the following are exempt from obtaining a city, food, establishment

2040
02:42:33,890 --> 02:42:36,470
permit, and this is otherwise required by state law.

2041
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:42,290
So, you're going to have your public schools, which are participating in the state or federal

2042
02:42:42,290 --> 02:42:46,150
school nutrition program, licensed child care facilities,

2043
02:42:47,390 --> 02:42:53,110
suspected by another government agency, authorized to conduct food safety inspections, typically

2044
02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:56,550
that's going to be your state that's going to inspect those child care facilities.

2045
02:42:58,150 --> 02:43:04,410
And in facilities, especially exempted by the Texas food establishment rules, those are

2046
02:43:04,410 --> 02:43:06,770
going to be facilities that are going to sell package items.

2047
02:43:07,170 --> 02:43:11,230
Things that are already packaged and sealed, so there's really no need for a permit

2048
02:43:11,230 --> 02:43:12,070
for them.

2049
02:43:12,070 --> 02:43:17,310
And then lastly, in the bottom, you have the production of cottage foods, people that have

2050
02:43:17,310 --> 02:43:22,190
baked goods and they sell stuff like that at farmers markets and things of that nature.

2051
02:43:26,330 --> 02:43:35,990
We're also going to amend section 6.02.003 licenses permits and exemptions H by exempting

2052
02:43:35,990 --> 02:43:41,510
a mobile food, then they're from obtained the city food establishment permit to comply with state law.

2053
02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:48,670
Again, the state has a city and county can charge if they're going to get a permit with a lot with the state

2054
02:43:53,340 --> 02:43:58,180
It's the more do y'all want to go hit and ask your questions go ahead. I just wondered the other day

2055
02:43:58,180 --> 02:44:01,240
I was coming down Bandara Road and there was a

2056
02:44:01,240 --> 02:44:05,000
Like a fruit market or something at Santa and Bandara

2057
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:10,810
It looked like just a family had done a pop-up tent and we're selling in the parking lot

2058
02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:15,520
We don't allow that here. I didn't think we did

2059
02:44:15,520 --> 02:44:25,940
I wasn't sure what to do about it, but the people that have the vending like in the vendors area on Griss and they all have permits, and I just want to make sure.

2060
02:44:27,180 --> 02:44:30,620
Hi, Sarah, just so I can clarify just a little city manager called Sarah.

2061
02:44:31,880 --> 02:44:40,260
So you have mobile tent pop up. That's not a mobile food vendor. Mobile food vendor is tied more to vehicle sales or mobile food truck.

2062
02:44:40,940 --> 02:44:44,960
And essentially what happened was the state came in and said we are going to regulate mobile food

2063
02:44:44,960 --> 02:44:47,160
bending and those fees are going to come to us.

2064
02:44:47,420 --> 02:44:52,260
There is a provision in the Texas Local Government Code that would allow us to work out

2065
02:44:53,540 --> 02:44:56,500
a interlocal agreement with them to give us some permitting at the awarding.

2066
02:44:56,600 --> 02:44:57,320
We would have to go to train.

2067
02:44:57,360 --> 02:44:58,720
I just didn't want to go through.

2068
02:44:58,760 --> 02:44:59,960
I don't have the staff to go through all of this.

2069
02:45:01,360 --> 02:45:11,180
So, essentially, what we will do is they would have to provide their permit from the state that they've been inspected by the state, and then they have the state permit, and that's how they would be allowed to operate here.

2070
02:45:11,640 --> 02:45:29,620
So, if they are going to end in a parking lot, they have to have their state permit. The pop-up tense, they are not allowed here. They would have to come for an SUP or a temporary SUP. So, if you ever see those, grass, fruit, please notify us, because nine times out of ten, if you haven't seen it come before,

2071
02:45:29,620 --> 02:45:32,060
the council, they're probably not a left.

2072
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:35,220
Is that permit just, is that good for like a year?

2073
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:36,940
I don't know how this means to me.

2074
02:45:37,420 --> 02:45:39,320
I don't know how the, I don't just wondering.

2075
02:45:39,740 --> 02:45:40,960
I mean, I'm not relating the,

2076
02:45:40,960 --> 02:45:43,300
I don't know if it's a year permit or, I mean,

2077
02:45:43,880 --> 02:45:45,300
I'm sure it's a year lead permit,

2078
02:45:45,460 --> 02:45:46,740
just kind of like a restaurant permit.

2079
02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:47,140
Yeah.

2080
02:45:47,660 --> 02:45:48,400
Is how it's gonna be,

2081
02:45:48,520 --> 02:45:50,560
but we can still regulate fire inspection,

2082
02:45:50,620 --> 02:45:51,880
we can still regulate zoning,

2083
02:45:52,060 --> 02:45:52,700
you can still regulate,

2084
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:54,440
there's certain things as part of the mobile

2085
02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:56,400
bending arena that we can still regulate.

2086
02:45:56,540 --> 02:45:59,280
We just can't issue a permit for them,

2087
02:45:59,280 --> 02:46:05,460
permit fee or do the health inspection portion of it. That's going to be regulated by the state and how did that impact our budget?

2088
02:46:06,180 --> 02:46:12,100
He's getting so much less light. I'm sorry. It's on his slide. He's getting to. Oh, he's getting okay. I didn't see that. Okay.

2089
02:46:13,160 --> 02:46:16,800
Did Councillor Comfort have his hand up next and then Councillor.

2090
02:46:18,020 --> 02:46:22,520
This may now be part of this, but a question is.

2091
02:46:23,600 --> 02:46:33,280
So, the things that I've seen on Bender and Seneca is more of a church giving away food.

2092
02:46:34,620 --> 02:46:37,780
And so, what covers that?

2093
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:41,880
And is there anything that we can, as a city, we regulate?

2094
02:46:43,140 --> 02:46:46,640
But every once in a while, there's a church way in the back.

2095
02:46:49,580 --> 02:46:54,260
So in the past that we don't have a regulation against it, technically they're not permitted

2096
02:46:54,260 --> 02:46:54,900
to do it.

2097
02:46:54,900 --> 02:46:59,060
They're supposed to have an SUP in order to be able to provide food.

2098
02:46:59,200 --> 02:47:04,560
Now because the food is free and coming to help a certain area of the population typically

2099
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:09,280
cities do not intervene because they are giving away free food to those in need.

2100
02:47:09,640 --> 02:47:13,640
So whether it's a church doing it, whether it's an parking lot, the only time we'll step

2101
02:47:13,640 --> 02:47:17,060
to regulate is if it's blocking traffic, especially along Bender or Road.

2102
02:47:17,440 --> 02:47:22,400
Our MPD traffic along Senika that doesn't allow people to move through the camera system,

2103
02:47:22,840 --> 02:47:28,420
then our police will go out there to either tell them to cut the line or to reorganize their

2104
02:47:28,420 --> 02:47:28,860
traffic.

2105
02:47:29,380 --> 02:47:32,360
Our biggest concern when we have those is the traffic impact.

2106
02:47:33,080 --> 02:47:36,460
We would like them to come ahead of time to let us know and we would work something out

2107
02:47:36,460 --> 02:47:37,100
with them.

2108
02:47:37,120 --> 02:47:42,160
But we don't have provisions in our code that say free food bending versus cell of food is

2109
02:47:42,160 --> 02:47:42,840
very different.

2110
02:47:42,840 --> 02:47:45,220
so when you have somebody selling fruits and vegetables

2111
02:47:45,860 --> 02:47:48,760
or like a makeshift farmers market, that is regulated.

2112
02:47:49,260 --> 02:47:50,660
Right, we have a provisions for that.

2113
02:47:50,660 --> 02:47:52,140
When you normally will go out there and say,

2114
02:47:52,400 --> 02:47:53,920
hey, you don't have the correct permits

2115
02:47:53,920 --> 02:47:55,940
in order to be established here.

2116
02:47:56,280 --> 02:47:58,860
But giving away free food sponsored by a church

2117
02:47:58,860 --> 02:48:02,040
or a private organization, we typically don't intervene

2118
02:48:02,040 --> 02:48:04,220
because it doesn't play well publicly,

2119
02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:10,080
because they're trying to help certain people, certain demographic.

2120
02:48:10,080 --> 02:48:16,500
I was just saying things that I believe what she saw was probably the weekly food giveaway that

2121
02:48:16,500 --> 02:48:22,220
it is at that corner in the shopping center every week and we have had some instances where

2122
02:48:22,220 --> 02:48:27,260
the line goes all the way down handsome lake and blocks traffic. And if you see that please

2123
02:48:27,260 --> 02:48:31,300
well please call and put in the non-emergency number and we normally will send an officer out there

2124
02:48:31,300 --> 02:48:36,660
and tell them you need to submit a traffic plan if you're going to be impeding traffic or reorganize

2125
02:48:36,660 --> 02:48:40,060
your traffic to where it's going through the parking lot. I haven't seen that long a line

2126
02:48:40,060 --> 02:48:45,940
for a little while now. So it's been a shorter line. The cars line up before they've even got

2127
02:48:45,940 --> 02:48:51,840
the tent and the food set up pretty much. Thank you, Mayor. See that again, Dr. Cordera,

2128
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:56,800
it's called a police if what not? So if they're cleaning traffic, so what happens is if you're

2129
02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:04,020
coming up, Senika and Senika is one way, one way. If so, if you can't get on to Bandir road because

2130
02:49:04,020 --> 02:49:09,280
the cars aren't lined up appropriately, please call the non-emergency number and we'll have a police

2131
02:49:09,280 --> 02:49:11,860
Officer, go up there to either move the line over,

2132
02:49:11,880 --> 02:49:16,080
ask them to re-snake their lines through the parking lot

2133
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:19,100
so they're not impacting the traffic along Santa Go.

2134
02:49:19,260 --> 02:49:23,340
We have approached them about trying to use a larger parking lot

2135
02:49:23,340 --> 02:49:26,280
like across the street because it can hold the traffic

2136
02:49:26,280 --> 02:49:26,680
better.

2137
02:49:27,060 --> 02:49:28,560
We've had conversations with them,

2138
02:49:28,680 --> 02:49:31,100
and I think that that's why that you haven't seen that.

2139
02:49:31,100 --> 02:49:32,760
They've been trying to do like registration,

2140
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:34,820
like kind of like a sign up.

2141
02:49:35,040 --> 02:49:36,800
So I think that's helped a little bit,

2142
02:49:36,920 --> 02:49:38,880
but different organizations pop up.

2143
02:49:38,880 --> 02:49:40,720
And so we do have to deal with this on the computer.

2144
02:49:40,720 --> 02:49:42,340
Okay, and then we're always going with this,

2145
02:49:42,560 --> 02:49:45,560
is that St. John has the food back.

2146
02:49:45,800 --> 02:49:48,280
But they start laying up at four o'clock in the morning

2147
02:49:48,280 --> 02:49:51,740
in front of my house, and if the whole Chanel point,

2148
02:49:52,280 --> 02:49:57,420
and of course, we saw their advertisement,

2149
02:49:57,460 --> 02:49:59,420
then it's supposed to be laying up to six.

2150
02:49:59,920 --> 02:50:01,780
Is there any way that they can line up

2151
02:50:01,780 --> 02:50:03,680
at DPS office or at the school?

2152
02:50:04,300 --> 02:50:06,900
So they would have to work out that agreement with them.

2153
02:50:06,900 --> 02:50:09,120
So they're allowed to line up in a public street.

2154
02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:11,000
They cannot block traffic.

2155
02:50:11,440 --> 02:50:12,880
They cannot block your driveway.

2156
02:50:13,820 --> 02:50:15,520
And so if they're not doing any of the two,

2157
02:50:15,580 --> 02:50:17,240
they can line up on a public street.

2158
02:50:18,940 --> 02:50:20,720
So they're blocking your driveway.

2159
02:50:22,420 --> 02:50:25,320
And so in you, it's just, it just depends.

2160
02:50:25,500 --> 02:50:27,160
And so you would call them on emergency number.

2161
02:50:27,180 --> 02:50:28,380
And if they're blocking your driveway

2162
02:50:28,380 --> 02:50:31,300
or impeding traffic, then the officer will ask,

2163
02:50:31,300 --> 02:50:32,580
Saint John Baptist to have them really.

2164
02:50:32,920 --> 02:50:35,580
Saint John Baptist is notorious for the food giveaway.

2165
02:50:35,580 --> 02:50:40,040
it's something that they advertise. It's made it on case 12 news. It's one of their feathers

2166
02:50:40,040 --> 02:50:43,980
in their cap. The city definitely doesn't go over their own regulate. St. John Baptist

2167
02:50:43,980 --> 02:50:51,040
food give away. They are helping a certain demographic. However, we do make sure that you can

2168
02:50:51,040 --> 02:50:55,180
get out safely from your home. You can get out safely from your subdivision and you can

2169
02:50:55,180 --> 02:51:00,360
reach even your road safely. If you can do all of those things, then no, we're not regulating

2170
02:51:00,360 --> 02:51:04,820
the line. And so, and I don't regulate their advertisement.

2171
02:51:05,540 --> 02:51:06,620
Okay, and people like that.

2172
02:51:06,700 --> 02:51:09,100
But everybody, yeah, for the food pantries,

2173
02:51:09,360 --> 02:51:11,780
I mean, there's some food pantries here in San Antonio.

2174
02:51:11,780 --> 02:51:13,840
People start lining up at three o'clock in the morning.

2175
02:51:14,740 --> 02:51:18,160
So, I mean, that just shows what the economy is right now,

2176
02:51:18,580 --> 02:51:19,980
and people's need of availability.

2177
02:51:20,320 --> 02:51:22,360
And we're happy that these services exist,

2178
02:51:22,380 --> 02:51:25,140
because there's been times where we've been asked as a city

2179
02:51:25,140 --> 02:51:28,920
to open up a food pantry, because there wasn't any available resources.

2180
02:51:28,920 --> 02:51:33,740
And so some of these things have been encouraged by the city in the past for some churches

2181
02:51:33,740 --> 02:51:44,320
to host these types of events because the city doesn't hold a food pantry or Medicaid reliable food source for individuals in need.

2182
02:51:44,420 --> 02:51:48,120
Okay, and I'm not a guest, you know, given food to the poor.

2183
02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:49,120
I'm sorry.

2184
02:51:49,300 --> 02:51:50,900
I guess we gave an upsogeic here.

2185
02:51:51,180 --> 02:51:56,160
I was just going to ask about the farmers market.

2186
02:51:56,780 --> 02:52:01,640
So that's separate, where do they, where do they fit, not here, but another, yes.

2187
02:52:02,180 --> 02:52:08,500
So the farmers market, we do have an old MOU, one of those evergreen, with the National

2188
02:52:08,500 --> 02:52:14,900
Farmers Association, and the reason that that was set up was to provide fresh organic

2189
02:52:14,900 --> 02:52:20,740
fruit and vegetables that were eligible for snap benefits, and it was an old agreement that

2190
02:52:20,740 --> 02:52:26,000
was set up way before, even 20 years, I mean, it's been a long existing, we've

2191
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:29,920
try it a few times to amend that MOU and there's nobody.

2192
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:41,660
We will be willing to, from the farmers market association, willing to amend the MOU. These people just join this organization and kind of show up at our community center.

2193
02:52:42,680 --> 02:52:49,760
And so we continue to allow them to be there for as long as I've been here. Sometimes we have one or two people. Sometimes we have five people over there.

2194
02:52:49,760 --> 02:52:57,640
But the big component of that is for them to accept snap benefits and providing fresh fruits

2195
02:52:57,640 --> 02:52:58,160
and vegetables.

2196
02:52:58,380 --> 02:53:02,160
So that's the original agreement and that agreement does have to be updated.

2197
02:53:03,280 --> 02:53:09,240
We can cancel it because they're technically not in compliance with that original agreement,

2198
02:53:09,380 --> 02:53:14,840
but we can't find anybody to renew or it's kind of a weird thing.

2199
02:53:14,840 --> 02:53:26,360
Yeah, but they're they're in the parking lot on Wednesdays next to the library and I know there's the other farmer market the farmers market like at the quarry and I'm wondering well those are a little bit different

2200
02:53:26,360 --> 02:53:33,360
So this one was set up through the farmer have I know I'm getting the organization wrong farmers Association specifically for that the farmers market

2201
02:53:33,360 --> 02:53:41,720
You're seeing at the quarry are more like vendors that are trying to sell food specialized jams and correct correct

2202
02:53:41,720 --> 02:53:52,020
And like they're doing like homemade quilts and jams and stuff. That's not our farmers market our farmers market with specifically for home grown vegetables and fruit

2203
02:53:52,020 --> 02:53:55,040
There's not other vendors at our farmers market

2204
02:53:56,660 --> 02:53:58,100
Anyone else

2205
02:53:58,620 --> 02:53:59,340
So

2206
02:53:59,340 --> 02:54:02,700
This was first read

2207
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:04,820
I believe and

2208
02:54:04,820 --> 02:54:07,040
You finished, I'm sorry.

2209
02:54:07,460 --> 02:54:07,740
Yes.

2210
02:54:08,320 --> 02:54:08,880
I'm sorry.

2211
02:54:10,300 --> 02:54:11,000
There we go.

2212
02:54:11,340 --> 02:54:12,740
Thank you so much, Mr. Gerard.

2213
02:54:13,420 --> 02:54:15,880
So, and I apologize that I'm reading,

2214
02:54:16,340 --> 02:54:18,820
but that's the language that, you know,

2215
02:54:20,280 --> 02:54:20,660
you know,

2216
02:54:20,680 --> 02:54:22,040
the only way to best phrase it is,

2217
02:54:23,220 --> 02:54:24,700
through the language that, you know,

2218
02:54:24,820 --> 02:54:26,320
after we did research and stuff,

2219
02:54:26,420 --> 02:54:28,160
so it's more to the point,

2220
02:54:28,900 --> 02:54:31,440
but notwithstanding any provisions of this article,

2221
02:54:31,880 --> 02:54:33,320
a mobile food vendor license

2222
02:54:33,320 --> 02:54:37,020
by the Texas Department of State Health and Services,

2223
02:54:37,620 --> 02:54:42,100
pursuing to chapter 47B of the Texas Health and Safety Coach.

2224
02:54:42,360 --> 02:54:44,280
She'll not be required to obtain

2225
02:54:44,280 --> 02:54:47,040
a separate city food, establishment, and permit.

2226
02:54:47,680 --> 02:54:49,960
However, as we talked about,

2227
02:54:50,160 --> 02:54:53,780
there's some things that the city can oversee or require.

2228
02:54:54,320 --> 02:54:56,000
So the city may require a compliance

2229
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:58,420
with zoning regulation,

2230
02:54:58,420 --> 02:55:06,340
fire inspection, site permits for operation on city owned property, special event permits,

2231
02:55:06,740 --> 02:55:12,460
traffic and parking compliance, building electrical and plumbing inspections, where applicable.

2232
02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:20,660
So again, we're lastly, we're going to amend the appendix A fee schedule.

2233
02:55:20,660 --> 02:55:33,300
article A6.00 by deleting section A6.001c, mobile food, vending license fee of $120 annually,

2234
02:55:33,900 --> 02:55:38,840
and mobile food truck vending food license of $35 annually.

2235
02:55:40,200 --> 02:55:50,080
So the difference between those two are the one that's $120 are going to be like the food

2236
02:55:50,080 --> 02:55:53,180
It's part that the church, for example, at that parking lot.

2237
02:55:54,120 --> 02:55:56,400
The one that's 35 dollars were specifically written,

2238
02:55:56,540 --> 02:55:58,680
I believe, for the food truck park.

2239
02:56:01,870 --> 02:56:04,350
So fiscal impact is pretty minimal,

2240
02:56:05,010 --> 02:56:08,670
because if you look at food establishment licenses,

2241
02:56:09,210 --> 02:56:12,090
for example, now that the schools are exempt from that,

2242
02:56:12,390 --> 02:56:15,170
you had three N.I.S.D. schools in the city, combined.

2243
02:56:15,470 --> 02:56:17,450
And your fee was about $1,500.

2244
02:56:19,310 --> 02:56:21,490
That's between two elementary and high school.

2245
02:56:22,170 --> 02:56:27,610
And then the second one, you know, the $35 food truck permit there was annual.

2246
02:56:28,110 --> 02:56:30,370
We only had five trucks they were in compliance.

2247
02:56:31,530 --> 02:56:35,790
So at the time when we started going after these food trucks because it was obviously more

2248
02:56:35,790 --> 02:56:42,410
than five park at the food truck park, we kind of struggled to get them into compliance

2249
02:56:42,410 --> 02:56:47,230
and hence they got a new owner for the property in this amount of the park completely.

2250
02:56:50,270 --> 02:56:51,850
So that's your fiscal impact.

2251
02:56:52,410 --> 02:56:55,050
I know pretty many more of you, you know, for a city of this size.

2252
02:56:55,870 --> 02:57:01,830
And then lastly, you know, staff does recommend that we make these amendments to chapter 6, health and sanitation.

2253
02:57:02,950 --> 02:57:04,750
And the city council will prove that.

2254
02:57:04,910 --> 02:57:05,350
Okay.

2255
02:57:05,890 --> 02:57:10,150
So I just kind of want to give an example, like earthwise, for instance.

2256
02:57:10,150 --> 02:57:17,350
So we have a food truck, we can't charge them a food permit, but we can have the far

2257
02:57:18,050 --> 02:57:22,190
Marshal or far to go over an expensive for safety, but that's it.

2258
02:57:23,050 --> 02:57:27,010
Yes, ma'am. Okay. I just wanted to kind of put it in an

2259
02:57:27,650 --> 02:57:30,650
example. Okay, thank you. Yes, Councillor Compost.

2260
02:57:33,260 --> 02:57:36,300
I'd like to recommend that we put this on the consent agenda.

2261
02:57:37,780 --> 02:57:43,840
consensus for everyone for the next meeting. Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, and we move

2262
02:57:43,840 --> 02:57:51,700
into the last agenda is 7.7. Precentation and possible action on economic and community

2263
02:57:51,700 --> 02:57:57,820
development advisory committee objection, excuse me, objectives, and we have Sarah or Walpole

2264
02:57:57,820 --> 02:58:03,120
our economic development and special projects director, and we are able to vote on this tonight.

2265
02:58:03,120 --> 02:58:04,520
It's awesome. Thank you.

2266
02:58:04,680 --> 02:58:05,280
Come back.

2267
02:58:06,360 --> 02:58:10,940
So, today, tonight City Council is being asked to review the City's economic and community development

2268
02:58:10,940 --> 02:58:17,260
advisory communities objectives. Your options are to approve, deny, so reject or also provide

2269
02:58:17,260 --> 02:58:21,880
alternatives to direct the advisory committees, future objectives.

2270
02:58:22,700 --> 02:58:27,700
And this is, of course, a City Council discussion. The purpose is to get approval.

2271
02:58:29,500 --> 02:58:36,640
Now, just to give some background, the Economic Development Advisory Committee hasn't reconvened

2272
02:58:36,640 --> 02:58:37,960
since March of 2024.

2273
02:58:38,720 --> 02:58:44,140
So this year in June, we've had two meetings with the committee, and they're very motivated

2274
02:58:44,660 --> 02:58:47,720
to get on something to work on as a group.

2275
02:58:47,860 --> 02:58:51,660
And they've also wanted to get together on a policy objective.

2276
02:58:51,800 --> 02:58:53,720
Now, there's two ways they can do that.

2277
02:58:53,720 --> 02:59:00,320
one, the City Council can direct the committee on an objective or policy to work on or as the

2278
02:59:00,320 --> 02:59:04,940
committee has done, they've identified an objective or policy and are asking for permission

2279
02:59:04,940 --> 02:59:11,120
to proceed. So that's what I'm coming with tonight for you. And so with Dr. Caldera's help

2280
02:59:11,120 --> 02:59:17,400
as well as the committee is sort of feedback, I've kind of put together some ideas for the committee

2281
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:23,420
and they were able to express what policy initiatives they'd like to review in the future and I'd

2282
02:59:23,420 --> 02:59:27,260
to see these three items is kind of a tier step plan for the committee to work on throughout

2283
02:59:27,260 --> 02:59:32,980
the year. First is to conduct a business inventory of available properties. This kind of

2284
02:59:32,980 --> 02:59:38,560
goes hand-in-hand with the work I'm currently doing, which is a comprehensive business audit. Just

2285
02:59:38,560 --> 02:59:45,340
to get a landscape of all the businesses here, available properties. And now I'm doing the sort of

2286
02:59:45,340 --> 02:59:50,080
day-to-day work of looking up certificates of occupancy, the permitting, all the requirements

2287
02:59:50,080 --> 02:59:59,980
associated with this now the economic development advisory committee would be working on just a simple sort of status of if a business is in a suite.

2288
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:18,740
Or a tenant is there, if there's a vacant property available, they would be doing this through public right of ways or in parking lots, they would not be directly interacting with businesses or, you know, approaching business owners, anything like that, doing any of their own code compliance or anything like that, it's just to prepare a simple list.

2289
03:00:19,340 --> 03:00:25,840
And this is to get them familiar with the business environment, the ecosystem here. We have a lot of new members on the committee.

2290
03:00:25,840 --> 03:00:34,320
And so, before they wanted to make policy recommendations and jump into all of that, the idea was to support this business inventory.

2291
03:00:35,320 --> 03:00:38,540
Now, next, it's going to be compiling that list.

2292
03:00:39,380 --> 03:00:45,040
So, I'm about halfway through with my audit and so their support would be helpful.

2293
03:00:45,240 --> 03:00:48,560
And I think in about six months we're going to have all of that data available.

2294
03:00:49,020 --> 03:00:53,880
And that's where they can start looking at what areas they'd like to see additional development.

2295
03:00:54,840 --> 03:01:00,560
future sort of opportunities. With that, they'd also like to review the facade and building

2296
03:01:00,560 --> 03:01:06,580
improvement program. So I know I have on the August 4th agenda an economic development incentive

2297
03:01:06,580 --> 03:01:12,000
policy overview with you all and this is going to coincide with that pretty well. I'm going to

2298
03:01:12,000 --> 03:01:16,140
be providing the committee with some of that research on benchmark cities and what they're doing

2299
03:01:16,140 --> 03:01:21,640
for the facade and building improvement grant programs, how our current program compares and ways

2300
03:01:21,640 --> 03:01:26,360
we can enhance it or how previous agreements have gone in the past.

2301
03:01:26,800 --> 03:01:33,720
And so it's going to be at the committee's recommendations and they may bring that all back to you with future recommendations as well.

2302
03:01:34,200 --> 03:01:37,960
So that's kind of my tier step plan for the committee to keep them engaged this year

2303
03:01:38,500 --> 03:01:41,760
and have some positive policy updates for you all.

2304
03:01:42,600 --> 03:01:45,600
So can I ask just how are they going to go about doing this?

2305
03:01:45,860 --> 03:01:46,160
Yeah, of course.

2306
03:01:46,280 --> 03:01:47,780
Are they going in groups?

2307
03:01:47,800 --> 03:01:48,140
Yes.

2308
03:01:48,140 --> 03:01:49,180
Are they going door to door?

2309
03:01:49,180 --> 03:01:54,860
are they, you know? Yeah, that's a great question. So for item number one, the business inventory,

2310
03:01:55,100 --> 03:02:00,500
we're going to be dividing the city into cauldrons. I'm kind of putting to a list together of

2311
03:02:00,500 --> 03:02:07,260
accessible shopping centers, so not the more industrial parkways and things like that. But things

2312
03:02:07,260 --> 03:02:17,520
that they can kind of just drive in, take a simple notes from their binders in their car. And it's

2313
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:20,020
a certain way, down certain roads.

2314
03:02:20,280 --> 03:02:22,220
This is also going to get them familiar with things

2315
03:02:22,220 --> 03:02:23,740
that they might not know about Leon Valley.

2316
03:02:24,620 --> 03:02:27,300
So having them kind of have that experience

2317
03:02:27,820 --> 03:02:29,780
and see what all is available.

2318
03:02:30,640 --> 03:02:32,200
But they're not going to be engaging directly.

2319
03:02:32,220 --> 03:02:33,700
They're not going to be entering businesses

2320
03:02:33,700 --> 03:02:34,760
anything like that.

2321
03:02:35,020 --> 03:02:38,840
We will be at the August 3rd meeting for the committee.

2322
03:02:39,060 --> 03:02:40,580
We will be giving them instructions

2323
03:02:40,580 --> 03:02:46,800
and giving them instructions on best practices, things like that, making sure that they're

2324
03:02:46,800 --> 03:02:52,500
not engaging or doing anything like that. That'll be all at the staff's mercy I guess

2325
03:02:52,500 --> 03:02:56,820
with my comprehensive audit. And that's what I've been doing is working with planning and

2326
03:02:56,820 --> 03:03:00,760
zoning directly. Now, if they have any questions or anything like that, they can come to me directly,

2327
03:03:01,180 --> 03:03:04,300
but we were not going to ask them to engage businesses or anything like that.

2328
03:03:04,760 --> 03:03:07,860
All right. And they can choose to do it to answer the second part. They can choose to do it

2329
03:03:07,860 --> 03:03:13,780
groups. Some of them have expressed to do it with partners, with partners, so they can discuss

2330
03:03:13,780 --> 03:03:19,420
how they want to break up their quadrants that they want to go together. And so that's kind

2331
03:03:19,420 --> 03:03:27,020
of the consensus we got from the committee last time. Yes, Councillor Heil. How many members do you

2332
03:03:27,020 --> 03:03:32,000
have on the committee? Yeah, five members currently. And then we have Council Member Merchaser,

2333
03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:34,420
as a advisory. Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

2334
03:03:36,180 --> 03:03:41,100
Yes. Council vote, Pulton. I'm just wondering if if they're reviewing the

2335
03:03:41,100 --> 03:03:46,340
facade, the building, if they're not going inside, who does go inside to make sure

2336
03:03:46,340 --> 03:03:50,180
that we're code compliant, does that fall in the fire department? Yes, so it would be

2337
03:03:50,180 --> 03:03:54,400
with the fire department and also with planning and zoning. So with my, with the

2338
03:03:54,400 --> 03:03:58,280
comprehensive business audit that I'm conducting, that we do about every two

2339
03:03:58,280 --> 03:04:04,680
years the last one I think that was completed was in 2022. So my job is to make sure that I'm

2340
03:04:04,680 --> 03:04:08,800
looking up certificates of occupancy with planning and zoning. If I see a red flag or something

2341
03:04:08,800 --> 03:04:15,260
like that, that's where I can engage. Our department directors and handle that directly, but yeah,

2342
03:04:15,300 --> 03:04:19,500
it'll be through those that you staff. Thank you. Yes, Councillor Compas.

2343
03:04:21,710 --> 03:04:28,310
Well, thank you for answering the questions I had. I think it's very important that we make sure

2344
03:04:28,310 --> 03:04:34,070
everyone's trained to make sure that they understand what their responsibilities are.

2345
03:04:34,350 --> 03:04:39,310
We've had in the past where somebody may have approached the business because they were

2346
03:04:39,310 --> 03:04:44,770
on a committee like this and there was some misrepresentation from what I've heard.

2347
03:04:45,410 --> 03:04:46,910
I don't know the specifics.

2348
03:04:48,030 --> 03:04:54,010
So the other thing is that they're understanding our budget constraints.

2349
03:04:54,510 --> 03:05:03,050
They can come up with some fantastic, the sod improvement programs, but if we don't have the money for that, I don't know how.

2350
03:05:03,590 --> 03:05:09,390
You know, they're going to do all this work and then feel defeated. Oh, they don't want to do it, but we have budget constraints.

2351
03:05:10,030 --> 03:05:15,190
And so I think they need to know that and understand it.

2352
03:05:15,570 --> 03:05:22,690
Yeah, I'll just think on that a little bit. It's going to be for the policy recommendations. They're not going to be allocating budgets or anything like that.

2353
03:05:22,690 --> 03:05:25,150
And so I'll make it explicit obviously, of course,

2354
03:05:25,250 --> 03:05:27,670
when we get to that point about available budgets

2355
03:05:27,670 --> 03:05:29,450
in the way that we have to be conservative

2356
03:05:29,450 --> 03:05:31,050
with what we're working with.

2357
03:05:31,550 --> 03:05:34,550
But yes, they won't be engaging on the budget portion

2358
03:05:34,550 --> 03:05:35,170
of this piece.

2359
03:05:35,190 --> 03:05:36,570
It's really just the policies.

2360
03:05:36,850 --> 03:05:39,670
So I'm thinking about what's in the language?

2361
03:05:39,670 --> 03:05:42,830
What are we asking from these business or property owners

2362
03:05:42,830 --> 03:05:45,010
that we may not be asking for right now currently

2363
03:05:45,010 --> 03:05:48,390
within the policy, recapture provisions, things like that

2364
03:05:48,390 --> 03:05:53,790
that can help, you know, true of some of that compliance that we've seen in the past.

2365
03:05:54,070 --> 03:05:57,570
And I think just a deep dive into what we've done before and how we can do it better,

2366
03:05:57,630 --> 03:06:02,410
but not necessarily a full-scale budget recommendation or anything like that.

2367
03:06:02,910 --> 03:06:11,990
But even at the policy level, I think when you're creating that policy, at the end of the road,

2368
03:06:12,510 --> 03:06:16,850
there's dollars associated with it. That's where I was going with that.

2369
03:06:16,850 --> 03:06:19,130
And you know,

2370
03:06:21,190 --> 03:06:36,250
I was talking to the city manager earlier that we've had citizens participate in reviews of our RFPs and we've had citizens who are on that committee call up the vendors and it's kind of like wait a minute.

2371
03:06:36,250 --> 03:06:42,310
You expressly have, we have to make sure they understand what they're like a code of conduct.

2372
03:06:42,450 --> 03:06:46,730
And it's not supposed to do X. Whatever that is, I don't know.

2373
03:06:47,650 --> 03:06:52,970
But I just want to make sure everybody's aware that we don't get.

2374
03:06:53,870 --> 03:07:00,350
It's an exercise, an important one that you're doing and I think the objectives are worthwhile,

2375
03:07:00,950 --> 03:07:03,890
but just don't, they don't go beyond that.

2376
03:07:03,890 --> 03:07:05,810
So, it's just my input.

2377
03:07:06,530 --> 03:07:16,030
I just like to add that I know, this is a, this is a, we had it budgeted in the past under projects, right?

2378
03:07:16,210 --> 03:07:19,590
I know we had a facade program.

2379
03:07:20,550 --> 03:07:29,070
So you have, so I don't know where it came from, but I just know it was under economic development and these businesses would apply.

2380
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:59,500
And so you have a project funding line item. You have several policies. You have a facade improvement policy. You can do a 380. You can do various different and Sarah will go over all of your programs at the August 4th meeting. Like all of the economic development available instead of policies that we currently have in chess and recommendations as to improving some of those policies that we currently have already and that will be presented to you on August 4th.

2381
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:06,000
This in particular, when we asked the committee what they would like their objective to be a brainstorming session,

2382
03:08:06,380 --> 03:08:12,040
these are the items that they said that they really wanted to focus on the facade or the aesthetics of the way we look.

2383
03:08:12,760 --> 03:08:20,660
But they felt like they couldn't give an appropriate policy recommendation without actually knowing our economic development ecosystem.

2384
03:08:20,660 --> 03:08:29,320
and so it was made as a recommendation from the committee to be able to take kind of an observational

2385
03:08:29,320 --> 03:08:34,880
look at our business district in order for them to give appropriate policy recommendations.

2386
03:08:35,300 --> 03:08:39,900
They felt like they needed this piece before the other piece. Do I think they needed this piece

2387
03:08:39,900 --> 03:08:44,880
before the other piece? No, not really, but if they felt that they did, then the committee can certainly

2388
03:08:44,880 --> 03:08:50,320
do that. But all of those including a facade improvement program, we have all of those incentives

2389
03:08:50,320 --> 03:08:55,800
are ready and is so if we got an application for one of those, it would be pulled from your

2390
03:08:55,800 --> 03:09:02,740
project funding line item. If they don't, they're not looking at that project. They're not looking

2391
03:09:02,740 --> 03:09:08,500
at funding. They will not be looking at specific facade programs. They're just looking at the

2392
03:09:08,500 --> 03:09:11,260
policy for the facade program.

2393
03:09:13,720 --> 03:09:19,560
But if we were to get a facade grant or the application.

2394
03:09:20,120 --> 03:09:21,420
It would come from that.

2395
03:09:21,520 --> 03:09:26,120
If the council is so too strong to have any money in it for next year,

2396
03:09:26,360 --> 03:09:29,020
that is correct to come from their reserve fund.

2397
03:09:29,240 --> 03:09:30,700
That's all I was clarifying.

2398
03:09:31,460 --> 03:09:34,920
So we have a vast variety of different incentive programs that we currently

2399
03:09:34,920 --> 03:09:36,140
have in Go and our city website.

2400
03:09:36,140 --> 03:09:37,240
You can see a laundry list.

2401
03:09:37,360 --> 03:09:38,820
We have a facade program.

2402
03:09:38,820 --> 03:09:46,600
We have different policies and procedures in regards to different economic development incentives and all of them still exist

2403
03:09:46,600 --> 03:09:51,420
We just don't have current and next year's budget this year. We do, but in next year's budget

2404
03:09:51,420 --> 03:09:56,200
We don't have any dollars tied to those programs and so if you

2405
03:09:56,200 --> 03:10:01,680
Get an application and you want to fund set application that would come from the reserve amount for next year

2406
03:10:01,680 --> 03:10:06,580
This year we have a project funding line item and so if we were to receive a grant application

2407
03:10:06,580 --> 03:10:23,060
And then we would, and if the council so chose to do so, then they would use that project funding line item to fund, whether it's a facade, whether it's a 380, whether it's just a co-sponsorship situation for something that would all come from that project funding line item.

2408
03:10:23,060 --> 03:10:24,580
So I just want to clarify that.

2409
03:10:24,700 --> 03:10:25,640
Anyone else?

2410
03:10:26,460 --> 03:10:26,800
OK,

2411
03:10:29,220 --> 03:10:30,380
let me have a couple of slides.

2412
03:10:30,680 --> 03:10:31,700
But it's clearing right ahead.

2413
03:10:32,260 --> 03:10:34,340
But yeah, now we're back to the.

2414
03:10:35,840 --> 03:10:38,340
And this, of course, just to touch on the exact duties

2415
03:10:38,340 --> 03:10:40,760
and responsibilities, we did a little bit about this.

2416
03:10:40,920 --> 03:10:43,960
But we will make it very clear what their duties are.

2417
03:10:44,140 --> 03:10:45,600
That was the initial conversation.

2418
03:10:45,660 --> 03:10:50,080
We had June 15th was kind of deep dive into the duties

2419
03:10:50,080 --> 03:10:51,560
and responsibilities of members.

2420
03:10:52,180 --> 03:10:54,540
But of course, they're not going to be reviewing any application.

2421
03:10:54,540 --> 03:10:59,860
grant applications and anything like that. So we'll keep that a clear direction as we go forward.

2422
03:11:00,920 --> 03:11:05,840
And then recommendation for you all today is to prove the exact committee recommended objectives.

2423
03:11:06,740 --> 03:11:11,300
No fiscal impact on this item. And then of course our strategic goals and objectives

2424
03:11:11,900 --> 03:11:17,240
is that economic development goal. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Councillor Kampos.

2425
03:11:19,500 --> 03:11:24,960
Great presentation. Thank you. I'd like to make a motion that we move forward with the

2426
03:11:29,560 --> 03:11:33,880
Yes. I'd like to second that motion. Thank you. We'll have a motion, but Council

2427
03:11:33,880 --> 03:11:41,220
Composence. Second, but Councilor Merch to approve the Economic Community Development

2428
03:11:41,220 --> 03:11:49,060
Advisory Committee Objective as stated. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye?

2429
03:11:49,200 --> 03:11:54,360
Aye. Any opposed? The motion does carry. Just make a note that Councilor Bolton was

2430
03:11:54,360 --> 03:12:00,200
of the room and it did not vote. I did want to say though, not in the motion, but wifey

2431
03:12:00,200 --> 03:12:06,040
Vaughan is a chair for this committee, and she knows the challenges that are facing them,

2432
03:12:06,260 --> 03:12:11,500
but she's excited about it. She knows it's a policy, and hopefully a new enthusiasm

2433
03:12:11,500 --> 03:12:14,680
is going to do this new group and make it a success.

2434
03:12:14,840 --> 03:12:19,040
Or meant, so I think they've got new members. I'm sorry.

2435
03:12:19,180 --> 03:12:20,800
I just put in some work in today, yes.

2436
03:12:20,800 --> 03:12:24,260
I bet we'll thank them for us too as well.

2437
03:12:24,740 --> 03:12:30,240
Okay, in any need to go into an executive session this evening to discuss.

2438
03:12:30,680 --> 03:12:33,080
Well, it's not something that we're just going to do in update,

2439
03:12:35,120 --> 03:12:35,620
but one of the places

2440
03:12:35,620 --> 03:12:44,580
going through the mailboxes criteria again, and they will be replacing some more mailboxes

2441
03:12:44,580 --> 03:12:47,820
and then they're going to wait a year like they did last time, so hopefully they'll get that done.

2442
03:12:47,820 --> 03:12:55,160
And my chief of staff did just contact me and said that, the Grosom Leon Valley, the seniors.

2443
03:12:55,660 --> 03:13:00,580
They won the two games today, so they're still deep in the tournament in Louisiana.

2444
03:13:03,820 --> 03:13:04,060
All right.

2445
03:13:04,060 --> 03:13:06,860
So that's the softball team from Northwest LA.

2446
03:13:07,500 --> 03:13:08,700
That's what you're talking about.

2447
03:13:09,020 --> 03:13:09,080
Okay.

2448
03:13:09,540 --> 03:13:10,260
Very good.

2449
03:13:10,660 --> 03:13:10,760
All right.

2450
03:13:11,260 --> 03:13:13,760
So, but no need to go into executive session, right?

2451
03:13:13,760 --> 03:13:15,420
Well, you're ready past those two items, Mayor.

2452
03:13:15,420 --> 03:13:18,860
short term. You've passed this two items they were for short term rental and animal

2453
03:13:18,860 --> 03:13:23,900
ordinance. Somebody wanted to go discuss it I guess. Okay anybody I have

2454
03:13:23,900 --> 03:13:27,240
future agenda items that you'd like to discuss.

2455
03:13:29,560 --> 03:13:31,840
I've just been reading about the

2456
03:13:31,840 --> 03:13:37,200
ticks and people getting sick from the ticks and that's deer. I don't know if we

2457
03:13:37,200 --> 03:13:43,020
need to look at that in the future. Anyway just what would you like me to add

2458
03:13:43,020 --> 03:13:49,120
future in 1991? Well, I'm just, I mean, it's been defeated twice now, but it's been a while.

2459
03:13:49,160 --> 03:13:54,160
Oh, so you're talking about not feeding the deer? Yeah. Okay, that's the, so not ticks. I'm sorry,

2460
03:13:54,320 --> 03:14:00,100
because it's the ticks too, because you're deer of tracks, the ticks, and that's, so do people's

2461
03:14:00,100 --> 03:14:05,360
dogs in the whole natural area. I mean, you have our coons, fox squirrels. Well, your, your natural

2462
03:14:05,360 --> 03:14:12,700
area is in the center of your city. I mean, it, and your natural area is going to encompass all the deer.

2463
03:14:13,020 --> 03:14:20,900
And so, I mean, yes, you have deer feedings that are occurring, that are keeping the deer going through some of the neighborhoods.

2464
03:14:23,440 --> 03:14:26,460
So, if you want to discuss the deer feeding, we can add that to the agenda.

2465
03:14:27,020 --> 03:14:30,900
What you said, or what I heard was ticks.

2466
03:14:30,940 --> 03:14:38,120
And so I did it with the ticks because of the health issues that I'm reading people are getting sick.

2467
03:14:39,100 --> 03:14:42,180
So do you want to add the don't feed the deer ordinance on the agenda?

2468
03:14:43,980 --> 03:14:47,540
Actually I always like more like I said more concerned about the health implications,

2469
03:14:47,800 --> 03:14:49,720
but I don't know how we deal with that, you know?

2470
03:14:50,240 --> 03:14:55,020
We've got the screw-room and the parasites as well, so I...

2471
03:14:55,020 --> 03:14:55,320
So yeah.

2472
03:14:56,080 --> 03:14:59,260
Anyway, maybe I'll think about it, but I mean I just...

2473
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:05,840
I mean, I just have it. I can dust it off, change the change of date, and we can add it on for discussion if that's something to do with it.

2474
03:15:05,860 --> 03:15:11,140
We can certainly discuss. I think we've got to take hold of the feeding I really do.

2475
03:15:11,360 --> 03:15:13,380
Do you want to, if you want to add it on, I'd add it on to our future.

2476
03:15:14,160 --> 03:15:16,560
Well, maybe after the budget.

2477
03:15:17,280 --> 03:15:17,880
So like October?

2478
03:15:18,600 --> 03:15:22,220
Yeah. I think so, because the budget is taking a lot of time.

2479
03:15:22,560 --> 03:15:25,040
Okay. Oh, yeah. Councillor Merch, what are you saying?

2480
03:15:25,040 --> 03:15:28,280
I think particularly the feeding of the deer in the neighborhoods.

2481
03:15:28,280 --> 03:15:40,400
I mean, it's bad enough when people feed them in the natural area, but when they are drawing the deer out into the neighborhoods, then there's more likelihood that they're going to interact with the dogs or, you know, whatever.

2482
03:15:41,380 --> 03:15:52,380
So I know that it's a problem in my neighborhood, and I've been driving through four stoics early in the morning to get to a seven o'clock appointment, and there's deer all over the place.

2483
03:15:53,980 --> 03:15:57,160
Okay, so we'll we'll add it and I'll talk to you.

2484
03:15:57,380 --> 03:15:58,420
Yeah, absolutely okay.

2485
03:15:58,960 --> 03:15:59,120
All right.

2486
03:15:59,580 --> 03:16:03,780
So with that, if there's no other agenda items for the future,

2487
03:16:03,960 --> 03:16:07,620
then we move to adjourn with that objection at 9-11.

2488
03:16:08,360 --> 03:16:12,460
9-11 on July the 24th.

2489
03:16:12,740 --> 03:16:13,080
First, thank you.

2490
03:16:13,200 --> 03:16:13,680
That's a lot.

2491
03:16:13,720 --> 03:16:16,660
This is a lot earlier than I thought we were going to go after 10.

2492
03:16:16,820 --> 03:16:17,540
I really did.

2493
03:16:17,660 --> 03:16:18,840
So thank you all very much.

2494
03:16:18,840 --> 03:16:24,400
do appreciate. You'll have a good evening. We'll see you on Thursday and um...