[0:05] uh today is november 15th of 2021
[0:09] and this is the regular rescheduled
[0:11] meeting of the modern village council
[0:14] um like to call the meetings order and
[0:17] on behalf of the village council i wish
[0:19] everyone in the village of the happiest
[0:21] of thanksgivings
[0:23] coming up i know sometimes it seems like
[0:25] we don't have a lot to be thankful for
[0:28] in these times but i think
[0:30] if we all reflect on it we're all pretty
[0:32] lucky
[0:33] to be here
[0:35] to enjoy it
[0:36] so
[0:37] with that
[0:39] we would please stand for the pledges
[0:45] i pledge allegiance to the fight of the
[0:48] united states of america
[0:50] and to the republic for which it stands
[0:53] one nation
[0:54] under indivisible with liberty and
[0:58] justice for all
[1:00] we lost our usual
[1:04] trustee that gave the invitation i don't
[1:06] know if the trustee would care
[1:16] yeah
[1:17] well
[1:19] uh lord look down on us
[1:21] and help us to make good and just
[1:23] decisions this evening
[1:25] and please watch out for our residents
[1:28] and the rest of the world
[1:30] as we make our way through these
[1:33] interesting and sometimes perilous times
[1:36] thank you
[1:52] president mcdonald here
[1:55] jennifer aarondale
[1:57] mrs swack yes you're mr kennedy
[2:07] here um we do have a forum
[2:13] trustee erindale
[2:15] is on an excused absence and we have a
[2:17] vacancy in office that
[2:20] we hope to fill this evening as part of
[2:22] our deliberations
[2:25] um
[2:27] i'd like to move on then to the minutes
[2:29] of the october 11th
[2:32] regular meeting of the village council
[2:34] for council's consideration
[2:37] review and approval
[2:40] are there any questions or concerns on
[2:42] the
[2:44] um minutes of that meeting
[2:47] i'd like to make a motion to approve the
[2:48] minutes of the october 11th meeting
[2:54] motion by trustee kennedy's second by
[2:56] trustee
[2:58] swag
[3:01] any questions on the motion
[3:03] hearing none
[3:05] all in favor of approval of the
[3:07] october 11th 2021 movie minutes please
[3:10] say aye
[3:12] closely say no
[3:15] motion carry
[3:18] council has before it
[3:20] the
[3:21] minutes of the
[3:23] are after minutes the treasurer's report
[3:27] for
[3:28] oh
[3:31] thank you
[3:35] all right council is before the
[3:38] proposed agenda with the council's
[3:40] indulgence i'd like to add
[3:44] an additional item to new business
[3:46] that being the appointment of
[3:49] two park and recreation committee
[3:51] members
[3:52] to the park and recreation committee
[3:56] are there any other changes
[3:57] edits on the agenda
[4:00] if none a motion to approve as amended
[4:02] would be in order
[4:04] to make washington
[4:06] well second
[4:09] any questions on the motion
[4:11] hearing none all in favor of the motion
[4:14] to approve the amended agenda please say
[4:16] aye
[4:17] opposed please say no
[4:19] motion carries
[4:24] okay moving on council has received the
[4:27] treasury report for the month of october
[4:31] are there any questions changes
[4:33] corrections
[4:36] if none the motion to approve and file
[4:38] the report will be ordered
[4:41] will make motion to approve and file
[4:43] this register
[4:44] i will second
[4:46] motion by trustee swag sentenced by
[4:49] trustee kennedy
[4:51] to approve and file
[4:52] the treasury free court as presented
[4:56] any questions on the motion
[4:58] hearing none
[4:59] roll call vote please
[5:02] president mcdonough yes mrs swag yes mr
[5:05] kennedy yes
[5:08] very good thank you promotion
[5:10] approved
[5:11] the next item on the agenda
[5:13] is the accounts payable for the month of
[5:16] october
[5:18] council has received the listing of the
[5:20] items
[5:21] and the amounts to be paid
[5:25] i'd like to make a motion to pay the
[5:26] bills in the amount of 16
[5:29] 259.36 for general eleven thousand six
[5:32] hundred fifty two dollars sixty nine
[5:34] cents per major
[5:35] four hundred dollars for local and
[5:37] nothing for mill park recreation
[5:40] [Music]
[5:42] thank you
[5:43] on the motion by trustee kennedy and the
[5:45] seconds on trustee swag
[5:47] motion to pay the bills in the amounts
[5:49] stipulated any questions on the motion
[5:53] and low call to approve please mrs swag
[5:56] yes mr kennedy yes president mcdonald
[5:59] yes
[6:01] okay motion is approved
[6:04] oh
[6:05] moving on
[6:07] we're having the public hearing
[6:09] on the village of leonard
[6:11] community development block grant
[6:14] program
[6:15] participation for
[6:17] 2022
[6:20] that motion
[6:22] or that that public hearing would be for
[6:24] the public to give comment to the
[6:26] village council
[6:27] on proposed uses for the monies
[6:31] i am recommending that the monies be
[6:36] used for purposes of the minor home
[6:38] repair program
[6:42] so
[6:43] that would be one thing that you would
[6:45] may wish to comment on when we go into
[6:47] the public hearing
[6:50] of course there are other uses
[6:52] but
[6:53] we've basically
[6:56] had limited
[6:57] programs outside of minor home repair
[7:01] and architectural repair so
[7:04] we'll try and respond accordingly if
[7:05] needed so looking for a motion to close
[7:08] the regular meeting and open the
[7:10] community development public hearing i'd
[7:13] like to
[7:14] make a motion to close the regular
[7:15] meeting and open the community for a
[7:17] public hearing for the community
[7:18] development block grant i second that
[7:21] there's a motion in a second
[7:23] to close the regular meeting and opening
[7:26] black grant public hearing at 709
[7:32] do we have a roll call please to close
[7:34] the meeting mr kennedy yes
[7:36] mrs swan yes president mcdonald yes
[7:41] okay so at this time this opportunity
[7:44] for the public to address the village
[7:46] council about their feelings dependent
[7:48] on the use of the 2022 block grant
[7:51] funding available through the oakland
[7:53] county block frame program
[7:56] anybody have a comment
[7:58] i have a question
[8:00] what are the other opportunities that
[8:02] it can be used for
[8:05] well it's a rather long list
[8:07] many of which the village does has never
[8:09] even had
[8:11] qualifications to use and that a lot of
[8:14] it is programs
[8:17] for helping
[8:18] low middle income people with
[8:22] schooling
[8:23] meals
[8:24] things like that that we really we don't
[8:27] have
[8:28] that type of
[8:29] infrastructure here in the village
[8:32] what we have used in the past is has
[8:35] been for
[8:36] projects like sidewalks
[8:38] um
[8:40] currently we're not qualified to use
[8:42] them for sidewalks the only use we can
[8:45] use the money
[8:47] that is sidewalk related is for
[8:50] creating handicap
[8:51] interception warning signs and ramps
[8:57] for
[8:58] disabled persons to use the sidewalk
[9:01] safely
[9:03] minor home repair program which is for a
[9:05] moment low
[9:07] mid-income
[9:10] persons in the village that have emerged
[9:12] emergency repairs and not qualified by
[9:15] income the age is not a factor it's just
[9:18] a matter of income
[9:21] we do
[9:22] wells
[9:23] furnaces
[9:25] groups
[9:26] a variety of
[9:28] applications are used that way
[9:32] those are the ones that i'm most
[9:34] familiar with that the village qualifies
[9:37] for
[9:38] and can manage so it could be used for
[9:40] ada sidewalk
[9:42] yeah could a portion be attributed to
[9:45] that
[9:46] we have in the past attributed it and we
[9:50] could
[9:52] reallocate it if we
[9:55] if and when we do that type of work
[9:58] or we could do a port or we could do a
[10:00] portion of it
[10:01] we're talking
[10:03] we have not received a final amount for
[10:05] the amount available
[10:08] but it's estimated to be around seven
[10:09] thousand dollars
[10:13] are there any open communities
[10:19] there's one that we've already approved
[10:22] with existing funding
[10:25] okay
[10:26] are there any other comments
[10:29] if none
[10:30] look for the council to
[10:33] i would like to make a motion to close
[10:34] the public hearing
[10:39] is there a second hollywood second thank
[10:41] you
[10:43] okay
[10:44] um to close the public hearing at 7 11
[10:50] and
[10:50] um
[10:52] ask for a roll call vote to close the
[10:54] public hearing and reopen the regular
[10:56] village meeting president mcdonald yes
[10:59] mrs sweat yes mr kennedy yes
[11:03] thank you
[11:04] we're back in session with our regular
[11:07] meeting
[11:08] okay at this time
[11:10] it's an opportunity
[11:12] during public comment for the public to
[11:14] address the ruling council
[11:17] there are some public comment guidelines
[11:19] adopted by the village council
[11:24] this is your opportunity to inform your
[11:26] council members about your views
[11:29] if you are here regarding an agony
[11:31] agenda for tonight you will have an
[11:33] opportunity to speak what consideration
[11:35] of that item is being considered
[11:38] the same time limits and rules apply
[11:40] during the conduct of all business
[11:43] and during the meeting you would please
[11:45] state your name and address for the
[11:46] meeting record after being recognized by
[11:48] the village president or president pro
[11:51] tem and direct your comments to the
[11:53] president and the board at that time
[11:59] policy is to limit each speaker to three
[12:01] minutes for their comment
[12:04] after all desiring to speak if they had
[12:06] an opportunity to speak to the council member may request one
[12:10] additional three minutes
[12:11] for any new or repeat public speakers to
[12:14] address the council
[12:15] at which point the council may vote to
[12:18] extend the time period as indicated
[12:21] so at this time the council will
[12:24] recommend will recognize anyone that
[12:27] would like to address us
[12:32] okay
[12:33] hearing none
[12:35] we'll move on then from a comment
[12:38] to
[12:41] the
[12:42] art new business
[12:44] that's an example of what the timer
[12:46] sounds like
[12:49] and it reminded me to
[12:52] turn my phone volume down
[12:55] um
[12:57] okay
[12:58] the first item of new business is
[13:00] council trustee vacancy
[13:03] village
[13:04] trustee
[13:06] charlene southerly
[13:08] resigned
[13:09] as of after our october meeting
[13:14] and so and has since moved out of the
[13:16] village
[13:17] so the council declared a vacancy
[13:20] and asked for letters of interest and
[13:23] res and resumes
[13:25] from any persons in the village wishing
[13:28] to
[13:30] be considered for appointment to that
[13:33] vacancy it would last the term would be
[13:36] until the next regular election
[13:39] which would
[13:40] then serve they would either be up for
[13:43] the balance of the term or a new term
[13:46] depending on when charlene's term
[13:48] uh would have ended originally
[13:52] the current term
[13:53] so in response to that uh
[13:56] and we advertised
[13:58] on the village website and posts and
[14:00] vacancies
[14:02] notifications and we received two
[14:06] letters of interest and with resumes
[14:10] since since that time one of the
[14:15] residents that have put in
[14:17] a
[14:18] letter of interest withdrew it as
[14:21] they are moving out of the village
[14:23] so they won't be around
[14:26] so that leaves us with one
[14:28] um
[14:31] one
[14:33] letter of interest
[14:34] and resume it was from
[14:37] john hawkins who lives at 23 south
[14:40] street
[14:42] here in the village
[14:46] and for the interest of all concerned i
[14:48] will
[14:50] summarize his letter of interest and his
[14:53] resume
[14:56] he indicates that he heard that trustee
[14:59] southern he was leaving
[15:01] um he does comment that while leonard
[15:03] will be sad to see her move i'm
[15:05] interested in filling the position she
[15:06] occupied
[15:08] he's his name is john hawkins and i am he is currently a
[15:13] resident of london grew up in farmington
[15:16] hills
[15:17] and at 13 his parents made the move to
[15:19] the leonard
[15:21] before they made the move
[15:23] he never heard of our town
[15:25] but after he got here he began to fall
[15:27] in love with two years ago he got
[15:30] married and a year ago who purchased his
[15:32] first home located in the village
[15:35] he has a 10 month son
[15:37] along with his wife and they're excited
[15:39] about raising your family here
[15:42] and it's great to be
[15:43] considered an honor to be part of the
[15:45] village council
[15:47] and we can
[15:48] bring hope more enthusiasm and
[15:51] excitement unfold to the village
[15:57] with that
[15:59] currently works for detroit diesel
[16:03] he's
[16:04] educated at oakland community college
[16:08] i'm going to
[16:09] phoenix university
[16:11] since
[16:12] november of 2019
[16:16] are any questions from the council
[16:19] it's really not my position to recommend
[16:23] this this is a council decision
[16:25] um so i would leave it open for the council and
[16:30] then we'll take public comment
[16:32] on
[16:35] i have that questions personally so
[16:38] he actually now lives at 255 east album
[16:42] which would be star's house
[16:45] so
[16:46] i know personally so i have no questions
[16:53] well
[16:54] you can look at it as we have a default
[16:57] situation but i think it's great that
[17:00] someone did step up and take the time to
[17:02] inform us and all that so open the floor
[17:05] are there any comments i'm just curious
[17:07] where he's at
[17:09] um he may not have been aware of the
[17:12] meeting night change i never did
[17:15] hear from him he didn't attend the last
[17:41] okay
[17:43] when trusty swag returns we'll
[17:47] see if the
[17:48] council will take any action
[18:04] i became a village trustee
[18:07] when charlie hamilton and bob mccallum
[18:09] knocked at my door one night
[18:12] because i had run for the job and had
[18:15] lost the first election
[18:18] and then hazel green who was the trustee
[18:21] uh moved out of the village and they
[18:23] needed somebody
[18:24] so they came down and asked me
[18:34] we do have some water bottles
[18:42] okay
[18:43] all right um
[18:45] what is the pleasure of the village
[18:47] council
[18:51] i'd like to make a motion that we
[18:52] appoint john hopkins as
[18:55] trustee for the remainder of the
[18:58] term
[19:02] okay we have a motion by trustee kennedy
[19:05] and the second by trustee swack
[19:07] to
[19:08] appoint john hawkins
[19:12] as viewers trustee to serve out
[19:15] the balance of
[19:18] the term
[19:20] or
[19:21] until the next general election
[19:23] whichever comes first
[19:26] is there any question on the motion
[19:31] hearing none um i'll ask for more call
[19:34] hope please
[19:36] mr sweat yes mr kennedy yeah president
[19:40] yes
[19:42] so
[19:43] mr hawkins is appointed to the village
[19:45] council he will be notified of that
[19:48] and i expect we'll
[19:51] see him
[19:52] the truck
[19:53] village clerk could swear him in at any
[19:55] time
[19:57] between now and hopefully sooner rather
[20:00] than later
[20:02] all right
[20:04] moving on uh president pro tem
[20:07] uh as council knows um trustee sullivan
[20:11] was the president of town having vacated
[20:13] her position and moved out of the
[20:15] community uh that opening is where that
[20:18] appointment is open i would like to
[20:20] recommend the council that uh trustee
[20:23] alex kennedy
[20:24] uh he appointed as president
[20:27] i will make a motion to prove for to
[20:29] appoint alex's protest
[20:31] thank you
[20:32] and i will second that coach
[20:35] are there any questions on the motion
[20:38] is the candidate willing to assume the
[20:40] position
[20:41] yeah
[20:42] thank you okay then uh lastly we'll call
[20:45] vote
[20:46] uh to appoint uh
[20:48] mr kennedy as president pro tem you may
[20:51] vote um
[20:58] uh president mcdonald yes mrs swag yes
[21:00] mr kennedy yes
[21:03] thank you alex it is an important
[21:05] service for the world
[21:10] all right
[21:12] um
[21:13] next item is the 2022 community
[21:15] development clock
[21:17] grant program
[21:19] resolution
[21:21] um
[21:23] but we advertised had our public hearing
[21:27] and now it is time for the village to
[21:30] village council to determine
[21:33] the program
[21:35] or programs that the money would be used
[21:38] for
[21:40] in the past we've used it for the
[21:43] most recent past are have been
[21:46] basically two programs minor home repair
[21:49] program
[21:50] and the removing architectural barriers
[21:52] program
[21:54] we can put some in each or we can put
[21:58] all in one
[22:00] if that would be my recommendation that
[22:03] we use those two programs and how much
[22:05] we allocate to them
[22:07] is up for discussion at this point i'll
[22:09] ask the council first
[22:12] going into the cold season
[22:16] do we have enough to as a furnace
[22:20] currently we should
[22:22] um
[22:24] one of you said we transferred when we
[22:26] reallocated
[22:28] um
[22:28] we reallocated from the removing
[22:30] architectural barriers to the mine home
[22:32] repair program in order to do the trees
[22:35] and there is a
[22:39] several thousand left in that
[22:42] however
[22:43] a furnace can be anywhere from two to
[22:45] five thousand dollars so
[22:48] i think we definitely should put some in
[22:51] that or
[22:52] yeah we can reallocate um it takes time
[22:56] a couple months it looks like at least
[22:59] if you do reallocate but
[23:01] well i wouldn't be i mean right now
[23:03] architectural barriers yeah we're not
[23:05] going to do anything network many times
[23:07] [Music]
[23:10] but this money won't be available until
[23:13] july or august yeah
[23:15] late next year and we'll have plenty of
[23:17] time to reallocate before then right
[23:31] the money comes to
[23:33] oakland county from the federal
[23:34] government and oakland county it
[23:37] distributes it to the local communities
[23:39] that don't have their own collateral
[23:43] so that the amount to be allocated as
[23:45] you said seven thousand
[23:47] we're i'm sure around
[23:53] over the last 12 years can we allocate
[23:55] based on that percentage then say 75 to
[23:57] over here 25 as soon as we know the
[24:00] number
[24:01] i don't see why not
[24:03] um yes the pleasure of the council yeah
[24:06] i would
[24:07] the way that i'm looking at this right
[24:08] now is i would price with 50 50 because
[24:11] every time we've done
[24:13] architectural barriers in the past two
[24:15] dollars and we're reprogramming it
[24:17] but if we have
[24:21] availability to use those funds i'd like
[24:24] to not have to go through the process
[24:26] so i think we can make the determination
[24:29] say october next year
[24:31] to reprogram for
[24:34] different differences
[24:37] if that makes sense so i would like to make a motion to split
[24:41] the 2022
[24:43] community development
[24:44] block
[24:45] [Music]
[24:49] removal of architectural barriers
[24:51] [Music]
[24:59] okay so the final motion by trustee
[25:02] kennedy
[25:03] in the second by trustee swag
[25:06] the motion is to allocate 50
[25:09] of the
[25:11] final amount to the minor home repair
[25:14] program from 50
[25:16] the other 50 of the final amount
[25:18] to the removing architectural barriers
[25:21] program
[25:23] second by trustee swag are any questions
[25:26] on the motion for approving that
[25:30] hearing none can we have a roll call
[25:32] then please
[25:34] mrs swag yes president mcdonald yes mr
[25:37] kennedy yes
[25:39] okay so the motion carriers and carries
[25:42] in the county movie form
[25:44] of
[25:47] that
[25:47] decision
[25:53] number four on our new business is the
[25:55] elmwood street driving field
[25:57] council is
[25:59] aware
[26:00] that we have had ongoing problems at the
[26:03] school driveway
[26:06] that have gotten worse as the school has
[26:10] increased the
[26:12] size of the parking lot
[26:14] and
[26:16] [Music]
[26:17] the distribution the storm water
[26:19] distribution system is incapable of
[26:21] handling
[26:22] that volume of water when we have a
[26:25] severe rain or weather condition
[26:33] it's been very difficult but companies
[26:36] are so busy and they lack the manpower
[26:39] that it's not like it was four years
[26:41] like last time we did this was probably
[26:43] six years ago we hired a company and
[26:45] came out and did it now
[26:48] it's very difficult and we've done
[26:51] irwin our deepw manager was able to get
[26:54] the company that he works for to provide
[26:56] an estimate
[26:58] um
[26:59] or a quote i should say
[27:01] um
[27:03] but it was actually quite a staggering
[27:05] amount
[27:07] it's 38
[27:08] 980
[27:10] to put in 500 feet of underground
[27:13] um six inch drain pipe which is a good
[27:16] size pipe and it takes
[27:19] some pretty specialized equipment to do
[27:21] that
[27:22] um i have tried and tried to find
[27:25] another company that was willing to bid
[27:27] and they're all
[27:29] busy right now
[27:31] which would kind of explain why
[27:34] the cost would be higher it's a
[27:36] relatively smaller job they've all got
[27:38] bigger jobs
[27:39] etc
[27:41] so i
[27:44] once we get into the freezing season as
[27:46] long as those catch basins are empty
[27:49] we're not going to have to worry about
[27:51] roads and the curbs getting broken up
[27:54] but when we get to spring and there's
[27:56] thaws and freezing
[28:00] it's going to be real problematic
[28:03] don has in the past
[28:05] uh
[28:06] pumped it regularly i mean every time
[28:09] we pumped it several times just left
[28:11] this past fall
[28:14] and um i'm running we've been also
[28:16] pumping another situation down on
[28:18] division street forest which i will get
[28:20] into in my report
[28:23] but
[28:23] i i can't recommend to the council that we
[28:29] approved this quote
[28:32] and i haven't even spoken with judy
[28:33] about how we would pay for it
[28:36] um is this worth approaching
[28:39] superintendents
[28:40] yeah this is because it's showing them
[28:42] what the problem has caused
[28:45] well unfortunately i was informed like
[28:47] the superintendent uh
[28:51] the one that i knew is gone
[28:54] from
[28:56] at least that's what i was told
[28:59] so no i have not been able to get in
[29:01] touch
[29:02] uh
[29:04] with the right person at the school but
[29:06] that is on my agenda
[29:08] whether they're going to willingly
[29:11] participate
[29:12] is up for grabs i don't know i think
[29:15] they should they have a 12 inch drain
[29:18] pipe flowing into the village drains
[29:20] catch basin and we only have a six
[29:25] to seven inch relief pipe out of that
[29:27] catch basin so that water's got nowhere
[29:30] to go but
[29:31] up through the grates and out onto the
[29:33] road
[29:35] i think they have 30 000 gallons
[29:37] underneath the parking lot they have
[29:39] three catch basins that
[29:41] fill up and then drain into the
[29:44] village system so it's a lot of water
[29:49] but
[29:50] i think we're going to be safe
[29:53] for the immediate
[29:55] month or two but with the cold weather
[29:58] coming out
[29:59] but it will be
[30:01] we will need to resolve it by spreading
[30:02] we need to have something i'm informed
[30:05] that they can do the underground work
[30:08] in the one that's when the ground is
[30:10] frozen
[30:12] so
[30:13] if push comes to shove
[30:15] we may have to explore that possibility
[30:20] um
[30:24] i'm just curious you know they used to
[30:26] clean those ditches out
[30:28] because i'm assuming that's where the
[30:30] water goes
[30:31] they haven't been cleaned out in years
[30:34] which
[30:49] would have um also clean theirs which
[30:51] probably won't happen
[30:53] but
[30:54] don tells me that
[30:56] at one time
[30:57] there was a drain
[30:59] this flooding has been going on
[31:01] for
[31:02] 30 years
[31:04] at that location
[31:06] it was never like it is now though
[31:09] um
[31:10] and that there was
[31:11] at one time a drain
[31:14] that ran a drain tile that ran
[31:16] south probably went to the ditch one of
[31:19] the ditches on the property this uh
[31:22] church property that drains to
[31:26] the leonard drain
[31:27] however that
[31:30] may or may not exist and it may or may
[31:32] and we can't access it anyways because
[31:35] we don't have an easement
[31:37] or a right to use some of that property
[31:40] we i could find no record of it um
[31:44] that we that we have a right
[31:46] that we haven't drained there so
[31:48] our drains primarily exist on the
[31:52] right-of-ways for the roads
[31:54] and for and on the county uh
[31:58] easements for drains so
[32:02] we're kind of stuck
[32:05] uh
[32:06] trying to deal with what we have
[32:09] with what we
[32:11] with the property right-of-ways
[32:17] um if they did that enlarging of their
[32:20] parking lot and its government property
[32:22] why were they allowed to
[32:24] continue with that without
[32:26] planning for the extra water that and all the catchments that's an
[32:31] excellent point and the answer is
[32:34] state of michigan does not require
[32:37] schools to file planning or zoning
[32:41] permissions
[32:43] from the state building
[32:47] code
[32:48] people i'm not sure
[32:51] it's licensing and regulation
[32:56] do it for them
[32:57] so they don't have they don't get local
[33:00] approval and honestly
[33:03] i've never seen that
[33:05] there are there are no permits showing
[33:07] that they ever contacted the village
[33:10] about dumping into the drains i was able
[33:13] to find paperwork for
[33:15] cooper standard
[33:18] that they notified us that they wanted
[33:21] to use
[33:22] one of the drains but school has nothing
[33:25] in record
[33:27] so the water really has nowhere to go it
[33:29] just has to sit and be absorbed into the
[33:32] ground well it goes into a catch basin
[33:35] that which is a drain you know because
[33:38] it has a grated top
[33:40] um
[33:41] but those aren't very big aren't they no
[33:45] probably well they're basically to allow
[33:48] water to enter the drain system and then
[33:50] the drain pipe's carried away the
[33:52] condition down there is is that there's
[33:55] a six or seven inch drain pipe
[33:57] that goes to the
[33:59] west
[34:01] and it's either
[34:02] slow or clogged
[34:05] or crushed
[34:06] most likely crushed because a lot of the
[34:08] tiles are
[34:09] clay tiles from long ago
[34:12] so
[34:14] the ant the answer
[34:16] to eliminate this is to use plastic pipe
[34:19] and run it to the east
[34:21] on our right away
[34:22] and dump it into the same catch basin
[34:25] that drains the road
[34:27] further east
[34:29] but it would be we would put a catch
[34:31] basin on the south side or the north
[34:33] side of the road
[34:35] because there is already a catch basin
[34:37] on the south side it runs to the north
[34:40] so we we would utilize that right away
[34:43] to dump this water
[34:46] but it is a 500 foot run
[34:48] it would be fairly deep
[34:51] because
[34:52] um
[34:54] of the fall needed to go that far
[34:57] six inches
[34:59] was expensive even bigger pipe is even
[35:02] more expensive so
[35:05] if it would be kind of
[35:07] the volume of water that we have to deal
[35:09] with
[35:11] merits a six inch pipe four inch pipe is
[35:13] like
[35:14] pushing it 500 feet through a straw it's
[35:17] not going to drain
[35:18] fast at all so for the difference in
[35:21] cost
[35:22] that would be the recommendation but
[35:25] does that answer your question well
[35:27] there's no chance to clean out the
[35:30] yeah we have we've we've always jetted
[35:33] those
[35:34] um
[35:35] in the past and cleaned out the catch
[35:37] basins and we the problems always
[35:39] existed the problem now is that
[35:42] they've gone to a
[35:44] much more
[35:45] comprehensive system
[35:48] that when it lets loose when it opens
[35:50] catch basins
[35:52] that they have on the property fill up
[35:55] they fill up and dump all at once into
[35:58] our system and it just can't handle it
[36:01] yeah if you go down there they'll be
[36:05] four five six inches of standing water
[36:08] over the top of the sidewalk
[36:10] i bring my boys don't learn to play in
[36:11] it
[36:14] the cars the cars have to drive through
[36:16] four inches away it was appreciated it
[36:19] was questionable to drive through it
[36:20] with a mini man
[36:21] on the way to the school of this whole
[36:23] time
[36:24] between
[36:31] but it does it just takes a few days and
[36:33] it's gone yes
[36:37] depending on how long it's been raining
[36:39] and stuff like that most of the time don
[36:41] is going to pump it and then it will
[36:44] where does he pump it to to the east
[36:46] which is where this 500 feet would end
[36:50] essentially
[36:51] don puts out about almost 300 feet of
[36:54] pipe because that gets him over the rise
[36:58] of the on the edge of the road and then
[37:00] the water flows to the east well what
[37:02] about
[37:02] ditches along the side of the road
[37:04] instead and with cookberry culpr does
[37:06] that cost as much
[37:09] donor
[37:10] says that it costs it would cost more to
[37:13] do an open cut
[37:15] excavation more equipment and more
[37:17] people
[37:18] in this particular case
[37:21] but
[37:22] i can certainly get quotes um
[37:25] it seems like 38 000 is a lot of money
[37:28] for being an administration
[37:30] we've done it twice in my experience on
[37:33] the council
[37:35] one time
[37:36] it was along division street
[37:39] um
[37:41] south of on the
[37:43] division street
[37:45] east of forest
[37:47] and then another time was on ford street
[37:50] itself
[37:51] down by uh going towards bayesa
[37:55] and it was a stretch there i think it
[37:57] was uh
[37:59] it was either four or six hundred feet
[38:01] here you remember
[38:03] and it was it was in the double barely
[38:06] into the double digits for both of them
[38:09] um we did an open cut repair over here
[38:11] on whitehead street two years ago
[38:14] and it was it was over fourteen thousand
[38:17] and it wasn't 500 feet
[38:19] i mean it just
[38:21] it's expensive it just gets it we didn't plan on being 14 000
[38:27] but one thing leads to another with
[38:30] those kind of jobs and so we ended up
[38:32] having to have a
[38:34] vacuum truck come out
[38:36] had to remove and replace culverts
[38:42] this project if we if we do have to pay
[38:46] close to what we're talking about here
[38:49] then we'll pretty much break our boat
[38:51] we'll break
[38:52] we won't have any reserves
[38:55] or not enough that would be of practical
[38:57] use
[39:00] i guess my question is i don't see it
[39:02] out here what is the validity of this
[39:04] quote is it a 30-day quote
[39:09] and then i guess what would be the time
[39:11] frame to do it
[39:22] gave me the impression most of these
[39:24] quotes are good for 30 days
[39:26] um he did he did indicate that uh
[39:29] he he works for this company so that's
[39:33] just so that's disclosed
[39:35] and he said that uh
[39:39] that this is a
[39:41] he was told by the company that they had
[39:45] purchased pipe and accessories
[39:49] earlier in the year
[39:50] in quantities greater than they thought
[39:52] they would need because they saw the
[39:54] shortages and manufacturing that were
[39:57] causing delays for getting stuff so
[39:59] he said they do have the the proper
[40:02] materials
[40:03] it's just a matter of if we want to pay
[40:05] the price
[40:06] so
[40:09] one more question
[40:10] yes um
[40:12] if you were to let the quote laughs
[40:15] would and you had nothing to lose
[40:18] could you say
[40:20] can you do this job to the company will
[40:23] you that can will you do this job for
[40:26] say 15 000
[40:28] and like a counter offer
[40:30] um
[40:32] at this point until i have another quote
[40:35] from another
[40:36] company i i'm not comfortable doing that
[40:39] because i can't move all somebody if i don't
[40:43] know
[40:44] what it would actually cost i don't
[40:46] think anybody is going to do it for 15
[40:48] 000 to be honest based on our past
[40:50] experience i was thinking at the top end
[40:53] of the 30 000
[40:55] for this job
[40:56] that's why i was it really
[40:58] set me back on my heels when i saw
[41:01] you know
[41:03] that amount
[41:04] how much is it costing the village to
[41:06] help it
[41:08] well it's not so much how much it costs
[41:11] trying to have someone available to do
[41:13] it i've done it a couple times
[41:15] down has done it regularly
[41:22] well
[41:23] i don't think they can take enough way
[41:25] into trouble
[41:26] you have to it's so much water
[41:29] i think it's i think there's at least 30
[41:31] 000 gallons on school property
[41:35] the size of their catchments
[41:38] when they start draining i don't know
[41:40] but even if it's 50
[41:43] um
[41:45] there's probably some kind of graduated
[41:47] drainage thing where
[41:48] the furthest the furthest away drains
[41:51] into the next one into the next one you
[41:53] know something like that so the repaving of
[41:58] elmwood didn't consider that drain when
[42:00] it's rebated was done
[42:03] no
[42:03] i don't even know if we were aware of
[42:05] the size of that train
[42:08] that the school put in
[42:10] i don't know when it was put in i don't
[42:12] know if it was done
[42:13] it wasn't done in this
[42:15] last summer's project but it was done
[42:18] in a previous project
[42:20] um
[42:23] yeah that's all input
[42:27] with the new money coming for
[42:28] infrastructure
[42:30] in the new bills that are passing would
[42:33] that be like could you delay the
[42:35] decision it's all infrastructure money
[42:38] up here and um
[42:41] the village is slated to receive
[42:42] approximately 40 000
[42:45] of which will get 20 000
[42:48] one year
[42:49] first year and then 20 000 seconds
[42:53] so if we had to revoke half this
[43:11] yeah conceivably yes but
[43:13] they've been taught they've been saying
[43:14] for two months now that the money is
[43:16] about to be distributed and it has yet
[43:18] to be distributed so
[43:21] do we have any other perspective quotes
[43:23] and you said you've been tracking yeah
[43:25] i asked call calls underground is a
[43:30] locally owned company
[43:32] and
[43:33] they did some they did all the consumers
[43:35] work here in anson township
[43:38] so i've asked the township supervisor if
[43:40] you can get me in touch with them
[43:44] but i've been gone for a little over a
[43:46] week and
[43:47] i just haven't had time to follow
[43:52] up guess my recommendation or my thought
[43:56] process right now is we
[43:59] table a decision
[44:03] i think we need to keep our reserves
[44:05] where they are
[44:07] we've already spent a lot this year
[44:11] thanks you saved me a big headache
[44:14] well
[44:16] don't worry next week we're gonna have a
[44:17] few conversations
[44:21] okay
[44:23] i guess um
[44:28] i'm not sure if you want how do you do
[44:30] this uh
[44:31] i'd like to make a motion to take no
[44:33] action on
[44:47] sweat
[44:50] um any questions on the motion
[44:53] let me still get post though
[44:56] i will as soon as i can as soon as i get
[44:58] the deal
[45:00] i actually
[45:01] didn't send this one to you right away
[45:03] because i
[45:04] tried to find a company that gave me
[45:06] another quote
[45:08] and
[45:09] you know
[45:10] it was hard to keep this one and be
[45:11] honest it took a couple weeks before
[45:14] they sent their
[45:16] representative about to look at it
[45:19] um
[45:19] okay
[45:20] uh all in favor of the motion is uh
[45:23] take no action at this time
[45:25] on the uh elmwood street train repairs
[45:28] please say hi
[45:29] host we say no
[45:33] okay
[45:35] at this time i want to officially
[45:38] inform the village and council that
[45:42] the estate of mrs virginia smith
[45:47] on behalf of
[45:49] a
[45:49] former village resident sherry arsenault
[45:54] delivered a check in the amount of 221
[45:58] 900
[45:59] to the village
[46:00] for use in the
[46:03] nature park and related
[46:06] nate park and recreation related
[46:09] expenses
[46:11] they gave us some
[46:13] they gave us a list of
[46:16] desired
[46:17] uh outcomes
[46:19] for the money
[46:21] one of the
[46:22] primary ones being a remembrance
[46:24] of sherry
[46:26] and possibly her mother
[46:29] for having made the donation have some
[46:31] type of
[46:33] maybe a boulder with a swag or whatever
[46:36] at the at the nature park
[46:38] they also suggested crossing warnings
[46:42] sidewalks
[46:44] of serving the park so
[46:49] it opens up a world of improvements
[46:54] for use they did say that they would
[46:57] like to see some of the money
[46:59] uh
[47:00] saved to generate funds to continue
[47:04] um
[47:05] having maintenance performed on the park
[47:09] the improvements are done so
[47:12] those are all things i think that we can
[47:15] accommodate
[47:17] pretty easily
[47:20] later tonight
[47:23] i'm going to ask the council uh for the
[47:25] approval of uh
[47:27] two new numbers on the park and
[47:28] recreation committee with the abs with
[47:31] shar sotheby
[47:32] we lost sheri and now shar southerly who
[47:34] was also a member and dan her husband
[47:37] was a member they're no longer
[47:40] so
[47:40] you have to find new volunteers so
[47:44] unfortunately doug and linda nowaker
[47:46] have volunteered to be on the committee
[47:48] so
[47:50] we appreciate that so but uh
[47:53] for now
[47:54] i'd like authorization to send a an
[47:57] official
[47:58] thank you
[47:59] and recognition for
[48:02] such a
[48:03] magnanimous donation
[48:05] to the village for
[48:07] that purpose
[48:10] trustee
[48:13] incentive by trustee clinton
[48:19] okay very
[48:20] questions on the motion to
[48:23] recognize and send a letter of
[48:25] appreciation
[48:26] to the
[48:27] estate of
[48:30] mrs virginia smith
[48:32] and liz sherry arsenault
[48:36] all in favor please say hi hi always
[48:39] please say no
[48:42] okay
[48:43] it was an interesting weekend because i
[48:46] received i met with the representatives
[48:48] on saturday
[48:49] received the check
[48:50] and then sunday
[48:53] i met with a
[48:55] running group called
[49:00] gold makers who had
[49:03] run out here on the pollyanne trail
[49:05] several times a year it's not a regular
[49:08] but they really were struck by the
[49:10] leonard mill
[49:12] and they wanted to see it
[49:14] they wanted to help so they made a
[49:16] donation of two thousand five hundred
[49:18] dollars and two cents earmarked for the
[49:21] money
[49:22] so it was a heck of a weekend for the
[49:25] village and for me
[49:27] so i'd also like to um
[49:30] officially recognize the donation and
[49:32] the appreciation of the government
[49:34] council
[49:36] so i'm looking for that
[49:38] action as well
[49:40] i'd like to make a motion to
[49:42] for the president to give recognition
[49:44] for the 2500 donation
[49:49] okay
[49:52] any question on the motion
[49:55] no but i do have a comment about
[50:11] okay motion carries
[50:13] okay cindy
[50:14] you have got to see the openings in the
[50:17] i believe you're asking for trouble i
[50:20] know i keep uh
[50:24] it'll get done this week okay i'm just
[50:26] concerned for sure i know kids
[50:28] especially because
[50:30] they're getting in there too
[50:32] it's a shared concern thank you okay um
[50:40] i'm not sure we have any action on the
[50:42] zoning ordinance amendment um
[50:45] were there any
[50:47] were they was there
[50:48] any recommendations
[50:52] was there any recommendation that the
[50:53] last that was that was just for the cba
[50:57] wasn't it
[50:58] no we we did the
[51:05] alcohol rizzo
[51:18] did the minutes come to us
[51:20] okay
[51:26] yes it was approved were there anything
[51:28] right yeah
[51:30] yes were there any conditions or changes
[51:32] made i don't know no conditions okay
[51:37] and we were in the middle of secretary
[51:38] changes that's probably what i did all
[51:40] right right right right
[51:42] he's not exactly we've distributed the
[51:44] minutes today
[51:45] okay
[51:46] i've been behind just like you okay so we do have something that
[51:51] okay the um
[51:54] the planning commission at its regular
[51:56] meeting
[51:57] in october
[51:59] reviewed our
[52:01] uh
[52:02] our alcohol
[52:04] related regulation change to the
[52:06] ordinance
[52:08] and held the public hearing
[52:11] and recommended that the
[52:13] amendment be adopted
[52:16] by the village council
[52:18] so that
[52:20] to refresh everybody's memory
[52:22] that
[52:23] action was basically
[52:25] to limit the number of
[52:28] liquor establishments to no more than
[52:30] four within the village of leonard that
[52:33] they would be located on the main
[52:35] streets of either forest or elmwood
[52:39] and that
[52:42] the
[52:46] oh let's see it seems to me was there
[52:48] one other thing
[52:50] that kind of stood out on there
[52:53] um
[52:54] and uh the owners could have more than
[52:56] one type of license
[52:58] you know it wouldn't be just one they
[53:00] could ever
[53:04] it would all be off-premises licenses
[53:06] but they could have a sunday liquor sale
[53:09] and they
[53:10] and a regular
[53:11] liquor
[53:13] permit and that
[53:15] we're not saying it can't have multiple
[53:17] it's just
[53:19] that would come as one so you're not
[53:21] talking bars you're talking no okay no
[53:24] off-premises consumption that's all the
[53:26] village allows
[53:28] [Music]
[53:30] okay
[53:31] so um what is the pleasure of the
[53:34] village council as far as the
[53:36] recommendation of the planning
[53:38] commission to adopt
[53:40] this and i'll make a motion for that the
[53:43] recommended
[53:45] ordinance updates changes
[53:48] a second two ordinance number 19.
[53:52] exactly
[53:55] so upon a motion by trustee swack in the
[53:57] second by trustee kennedy the village
[54:00] council formally adopts the
[54:02] recommendations
[54:04] that were proposed
[54:06] in the public hearing held on
[54:10] for the 25th
[54:12] pardon for the 25th yeah october 25th
[54:20] and and
[54:21] approved and will amend the village
[54:23] ordinance
[54:25] zoning ordinance court accordingly
[54:32] good
[54:34] any questions on the motion
[54:41] mr kennedy yes
[54:43] mcdonald yes this is matt
[54:46] yes
[54:50] all right um
[54:52] we'll thank the planning commission
[54:54] for your efforts on
[54:56] that regard
[54:59] okay
[55:00] um
[55:03] with the absence of trustees southerly
[55:07] we have one open
[55:10] position
[55:12] where the village needs a representative
[55:14] and that would be on the oxford ask
[55:16] addison cable commission
[55:18] um
[55:20] i would i had hoped that mr hawkins
[55:23] would be here tonight
[55:24] but i would like to
[55:29] ask the council to
[55:32] appoint him to that
[55:35] organization
[55:36] and if he's unable to do it through the
[55:39] schedule or whatever
[55:41] um i will just have to revisit it at
[55:44] that time
[55:46] so is there a motion then to appoint
[55:50] mr hawkins to the oxford addison cable
[55:53] commission i'd like to make a motion to
[55:55] appoint john hopkins to the oxford
[55:59] community television committee
[56:05] okay so upon a motion by trustee kennedy
[56:07] and second by trustee swack
[56:09] john trustee john hawkins
[56:12] is appointed as the village
[56:14] representative to the oxford addison
[56:16] cable commission
[56:18] any question on the motion
[56:20] all in favor of the motion please say
[56:22] aye
[56:23] i opposed please say no
[56:26] okay the motion
[56:29] very carrier
[56:31] okay uh number nine
[56:33] is a revisit uh this is in regards to
[56:36] the tree trimming
[56:37] uh
[56:38] that we approved two months ago
[56:41] um
[56:42] until we get the approval from the
[56:44] county
[56:46] uh
[56:47] of the reallocation of monies
[56:49] we haven't been able to go forward my
[56:51] concern is is that
[56:53] um
[56:56] one or both of the
[56:58] companies will say i don't they don't
[57:00] want to do it for that price or whatever
[57:03] so i would like to have authorization
[57:06] that if needed i can use i can get
[57:08] another company if they will
[57:11] meet you know that
[57:13] criteria for cost
[57:15] and the parameters for removal
[57:18] chipping etc cutting into firewood
[57:20] lights
[57:21] um
[57:23] that i can go ahead and get that done um
[57:28] don't have to but i i'd really like
[57:31] i really expect to get approval this
[57:33] month i just think it all happens
[57:36] so yeah i'd like a motion to authorize
[57:38] an alternative source one thing for that
[57:41] too is that uh ryan j waldo had cut
[57:44] trees down to my house full disclosure
[57:46] and he did a good job at a good price so
[57:50] it made me worthwhile to request him as
[57:53] well to see
[57:55] if i have to find an alternate i would
[57:57] contact him uh the only parameter that
[58:00] i'm going to be looking at is
[58:02] getting both jobs done within
[58:04] the amounts that that were stipulated
[58:08] sure
[58:09] okay
[58:10] so i would make a motion to allow
[58:12] president to
[58:13] obtain up
[58:16] backup quotes
[58:17] if needed
[58:18] well i'm looking for authorization to go
[58:20] ahead and
[58:21] authorize
[58:23] the top drives to work to a third party
[58:25] contractor if needed as long as it fits
[58:28] perfectly
[58:33] [Music]
[58:37] is that
[58:38] uh trustee kennedy
[58:39] making this ocean
[58:48] okay so we have a motion
[58:50] um
[58:52] to provide uh authorize the president
[58:56] to
[58:57] hire a
[58:58] third party contractor
[59:00] if either of the previous
[59:02] previously contacted parties no longer
[59:05] want to do the job
[59:09] any questions
[59:11] okay can we have a roll call on that
[59:13] please
[59:14] [Music]
[59:15] president mcdonough yes
[59:17] mrs swag yes mr kennedy yes
[59:20] okay thank you i appreciate that
[59:23] i know
[59:25] the black green applicant is
[59:28] really anxious to get the trees down so
[59:30] i
[59:37] right right exactly
[59:40] um
[59:42] i number 10
[59:44] i
[59:45] had hoped or suggested that maybe the
[59:47] december meeting we would not have to
[59:49] hold it
[59:50] um
[59:52] what are the thoughts of the council
[59:57] on that
[59:59] the only thing if we had something come
[1:00:01] up
[1:00:02] we could still have it
[1:00:06] the the only thing i have
[1:00:09] potentially
[1:00:12] would be the drains that the drain quotes if we got something
[1:00:17] that
[1:00:18] was reasonable you could
[1:00:20] possibly need that but
[1:00:22] um
[1:00:25] if the council wants we can just keep it
[1:00:27] on the calendar and cancel it later i
[1:00:29] suppose or
[1:00:32] do it now
[1:00:34] it's gonna have a cancel by date or
[1:00:35] something like that
[1:00:37] well because
[1:00:39] if we're going to do it let's cancel it
[1:00:41] now so i mean i
[1:00:44] the only question that i would have
[1:00:45] currently i don't know if there's
[1:00:47] anything we can do about it
[1:00:49] is have we had the roofs done either dpw
[1:00:52] or a rolling wall
[1:00:54] yeah that was in my report i'm sure
[1:00:56] unfortunately
[1:00:58] yeah no the roofs are complete okay yeah
[1:01:00] so
[1:01:01] um
[1:01:04] okay
[1:01:06] well
[1:01:07] unless there's a motion of to
[1:01:11] cancel the meeting of this
[1:01:13] procedure i'd like to make a motion to
[1:01:15] cancel at the center of the meeting
[1:01:20] okay there's a motion on the floor
[1:01:22] proposed by trustee kennedy seconded by
[1:01:24] trustee sweat cancel the december
[1:01:27] evening
[1:01:28] of the bill of council there any
[1:01:30] questions on the motion
[1:01:31] [Music]
[1:01:33] hearing none
[1:01:34] all in favor of the motion to cancel the
[1:01:36] meeting in december please say i i
[1:01:39] opposed please say no
[1:01:42] okay that motion here
[1:01:44] my final
[1:01:45] part of a new business
[1:01:47] is to ask the council's approval of my
[1:01:50] recommendation to appoint
[1:01:53] doug moaker and linda nowaker as
[1:01:56] park and recreation committee members
[1:01:59] for the rules of leonard
[1:02:03] you could make a motion to appoint
[1:02:05] neutral science
[1:02:07] parks and rec appointees
[1:02:08] well second
[1:02:12] i third
[1:02:14] thank you okay uh most under the floor
[1:02:16] to a point
[1:02:18] um mr douglas here nice and slender
[1:02:22] department recreation
[1:02:24] all in favor of the motion please say
[1:02:26] aye
[1:02:28] opposed to say no
[1:02:31] okay so the motion is approved thank you
[1:02:33] doug thank linda
[1:02:35] appreciate it
[1:02:38] all right full business i have none
[1:02:41] um dpw update uh we did receive the work
[1:02:44] platform
[1:02:45] um for the tractor for the dpw
[1:02:49] but we have not yet received the tractor
[1:02:51] forks i'm
[1:02:52] hoping that
[1:02:54] the last notice i got was they were
[1:02:55] going to be to us or shipped on the 19th
[1:02:59] which would be friday of this week um
[1:03:02] whether they'll come then or not i can't
[1:03:04] say but until they come the village
[1:03:06] won't be doing any aerial work
[1:03:10] without them so
[1:03:12] it may mean a delay to the decorations
[1:03:15] going up
[1:03:16] and some other
[1:03:18] work that
[1:03:21] i've been requested to do
[1:03:24] [Music]
[1:03:26] so that was informational and then
[1:03:29] as i indicated earlier division stream
[1:03:31] there's a drain blockage
[1:03:34] where uh
[1:03:35] the water is not flowing the water on
[1:03:38] division streaming drains flows to
[1:03:41] forestry
[1:03:43] on this on the north side of division
[1:03:45] water is flowing normally and going into
[1:03:48] the drain
[1:03:50] that goes uh to the county drain
[1:03:54] on the
[1:03:56] i gotta get this right on the south side
[1:03:59] the catch basin
[1:04:00] there
[1:04:01] is
[1:04:02] not draining to the county drain or to
[1:04:04] the main drain
[1:04:06] and it is backing up and water level is
[1:04:08] rising and has flooded the
[1:04:11] stinson industries there
[1:04:13] so i've pumped down i've pumped it out
[1:04:16] twice myself and don has pumped that
[1:04:18] catch base and we just pump it across
[1:04:20] the street
[1:04:21] or out to the front
[1:04:23] to another catch basin that's on the
[1:04:25] main drain
[1:04:26] but
[1:04:29] the owner is quite his new owner and
[1:04:30] he's quite concerned about you know
[1:04:32] safety etc
[1:04:34] so
[1:04:36] don is trying to arrange for a vacuum
[1:04:38] truck to come out so we can ascertain
[1:04:40] whether we've got a broken tile under
[1:04:42] the road because the
[1:04:44] tile would run from the south to the
[1:04:47] north
[1:04:48] and then into the
[1:04:51] main collector
[1:04:53] on forestry
[1:04:55] so
[1:04:55] don had hoped that if we did hire a contractor
[1:05:02] if we superior like anybody that does
[1:05:04] underground they have to have a vacuum
[1:05:06] truck
[1:05:07] to
[1:05:08] for them to do that so he was hoping to
[1:05:10] grab it
[1:05:11] and do that but there's a chance he
[1:05:13] won't
[1:05:14] the problem is is he the last fold he
[1:05:16] got was for
[1:05:17] between 35 and 4 000
[1:05:20] for eight hours eight hour day
[1:05:23] for a vacuum truck
[1:05:25] we paid
[1:05:26] 2200
[1:05:28] four years ago three three years ago
[1:05:30] when we had to have one out for that
[1:05:32] dream project on whitehead street
[1:05:35] so it's very expensive
[1:05:37] so
[1:05:38] i may yet do that and i guess i would
[1:05:41] like council authorization
[1:05:43] to
[1:05:44] expand the
[1:05:47] [Music]
[1:05:49] i'm going to say ask i'm going to ask
[1:05:50] for approval up to 4 500
[1:05:53] um if it comes to that um
[1:05:57] and that means and that may not fix it depends on what's wrong if it's a broken tile we'll
[1:06:03] have to have an excavator come in
[1:06:05] and clean it up if it's a
[1:06:09] fractured tile there are companies that
[1:06:11] go in and look like an inside sleeve
[1:06:14] and almost bubble up and we'll
[1:06:16] restructure the pipes yeah
[1:06:18] it's the same type of operation we're talking
[1:06:21] about where they
[1:06:23] feed them
[1:06:25] so yeah but
[1:06:28] how do they bring the camera in are they
[1:06:45] where you're trying to get to
[1:06:47] sure
[1:06:48] so i'd like to make a motion to prove up
[1:06:50] to 4500 for
[1:06:53] potential repair inspection of the
[1:06:56] division during
[1:06:58] also
[1:07:01] okay there's a motion by trustee kennedy
[1:07:03] seconded by trustee swag
[1:07:05] to authorize up to 4 500
[1:07:08] for the inspection and repair of
[1:07:11] the division
[1:07:12] street
[1:07:14] ford street intersection
[1:07:19] any question on the motion
[1:07:21] hearing none uh do we have a roll call
[1:07:24] please
[1:07:25] mr kennedy yes mrs yes president
[1:07:28] mcdonough yes
[1:07:33] okay thank you for that
[1:07:38] for the president's report
[1:07:44] we had no lawyer requests
[1:07:46] regarding ordinance enforcement
[1:07:49] village trustees received a confidential
[1:07:52] letter from the village attorney
[1:07:55] with the options the
[1:07:57] appropriate options for how to treat
[1:08:00] this situation
[1:08:02] so
[1:08:05] we can discuss that
[1:08:07] now or wait
[1:08:09] uh
[1:08:10] to our next meeting
[1:08:12] there's they have secured the structure
[1:08:14] somebody can
[1:08:17] repair the door somebody else has an
[1:08:19] electricity
[1:08:21] somebody from outside the village came
[1:08:23] and did it because i
[1:08:26] as i saw them they were leaving
[1:08:28] i saw the guy get in his truck and leave
[1:08:30] because i was going
[1:08:33] are we discussing the yellow house yeah
[1:08:35] 42.85 i'm sorry
[1:08:39] yeah
[1:08:40] so um
[1:08:42] based on the letter
[1:08:44] nothing's going to happen right away
[1:08:46] regardless
[1:08:47] so
[1:08:48] i prove maybe that's something that we
[1:08:50] can discuss at our next meeting was this
[1:08:53] the first time that somebody outside the
[1:08:54] village has actually touched the house
[1:08:56] no the last time we contacted the
[1:08:58] attorney to contact the company which
[1:09:01] was
[1:09:02] before we six months ago when we
[1:09:15] and he said that they had called him and
[1:09:17] asked him to come out and seal it up so
[1:09:21] it didn't last long they kicked that
[1:09:24] open within what we did
[1:09:27] but anyway if it is if you do see it
[1:09:30] open contact me perhaps whoever comes
[1:09:32] well i'm actually just wondering since
[1:09:36] if they're
[1:09:38] is there interest from them now that
[1:09:39] they might actually keep the structure
[1:09:41] in me
[1:09:42] no no they have not responded to me
[1:09:45] and they just go straight to some
[1:09:49] that way they i guess they don't have to
[1:09:51] acknowledge
[1:09:52] or have any conversation with us so they
[1:09:54] have all the help of the world and they
[1:09:55] still choose to go around right and
[1:09:58] as long as it's secure
[1:10:00] now as i think that attorney indicated
[1:10:03] we could board it up i mean we could
[1:10:06] i'm not sure that's really what we want
[1:10:08] to do
[1:10:10] but we could do that and put in you know
[1:10:13] place an additional lien on the property
[1:10:17] you know for doing that
[1:10:19] i guess this one's secure
[1:10:21] the window's already broken the doors so
[1:10:24] far the door has been the only thing
[1:10:26] that's been it's been kicked and
[1:10:28] it's in rough shape
[1:10:33] the taxes have not been paid
[1:10:36] um so they would be up in 2023 they
[1:10:39] could go
[1:10:40] to public sale
[1:10:42] in which case the village would have
[1:10:45] first or
[1:10:46] possibly second bid
[1:10:48] if the state doesn't want the property i
[1:10:51] think that's unlikely
[1:10:53] that we could purchase it for back taxes
[1:10:56] and then do as we wish
[1:11:00] i'm not sure that's a great idea either
[1:11:02] because we have to
[1:11:04] tear it down
[1:11:07] for something so
[1:11:09] it's something takes care of
[1:11:17] um we had a work a community person that
[1:11:20] had a lot of community service hours
[1:11:22] and they cut grass throughout the
[1:11:24] village this past summer that's not
[1:11:26] going to last forever no no next year it
[1:11:29] will be another problem yeah so
[1:11:32] yeah we're trying to find a permanent
[1:11:34] answer but
[1:11:36] anyways
[1:11:37] unless unless the council wants to take
[1:11:39] action
[1:11:41] i'm going to move on
[1:11:43] um
[1:11:45] the roofs were finished a week ago or
[1:11:50] actually last week i think we'll think
[1:11:51] about
[1:11:52] lori heard them out there working um
[1:11:54] they didn't get all the work
[1:11:55] accomplished we did receive an invoice
[1:11:57] last friday
[1:11:59] the work is done it looks good
[1:12:02] um
[1:12:03] it's definitely dry in dpw now compared
[1:12:06] to
[1:12:07] what it was so it looks to work
[1:12:10] so it worked pretty good um the crack
[1:12:12] ceiling is done on west elmwood
[1:12:16] they got all of
[1:12:18] south forest
[1:12:19] and part of north
[1:12:21] forest as well
[1:12:24] so that's been taking care of the roland
[1:12:27] hall heat vents for the best of you are
[1:12:30] in
[1:12:31] they recommended that we probably should
[1:12:33] get a damper
[1:12:34] for our for for
[1:12:37] the final run here
[1:12:39] of our
[1:12:41] so that there would be some back
[1:12:42] pressure
[1:12:43] and it might divert more air into the vestibule
[1:12:49] but other that wasn't part of the
[1:12:50] original proposal so
[1:12:53] but i i basically talked to the guy when
[1:12:55] i when he got done and there wasn't much
[1:12:57] air you could tell it was a little air
[1:13:00] coming out but when you look at they didn't put any registers on these
[1:13:05] so there's no restriction
[1:13:07] on the
[1:13:08] heat pipes so the heat that comes in is
[1:13:10] just
[1:13:11] it almost here
[1:13:12] and then here
[1:13:13] yeah
[1:13:15] so anyway but
[1:13:19] i think it made a difference when i came
[1:13:20] in just uh today to open up the hall
[1:13:23] it wasn't as freezing cold as as it
[1:13:26] usually is hopefully it's doing some
[1:13:29] good
[1:13:30] um
[1:13:31] you know that door
[1:13:34] doesn't really still tight either is
[1:13:36] there anything this door if you look at
[1:13:38] the door there's a they have the door
[1:13:44] some seals or yeah the outer door yeah
[1:13:49] if we can put seal strips on it or
[1:13:50] something
[1:13:52] um
[1:13:56] okay
[1:13:58] i'll take a look at it
[1:14:00] and then um
[1:14:02] as far as the 2022
[1:14:05] uh
[1:14:06] 2023 budget
[1:14:09] um
[1:14:10] it's going to be pretty much what we've
[1:14:12] seen in the past we won't
[1:14:15] be making any i don't plan on any cat
[1:14:17] large capital expenditures
[1:14:19] i do think that we need to look at
[1:14:22] a way to generate some interest by
[1:14:25] people to
[1:14:26] become involved in the village
[1:14:29] and so maybe the planning commission
[1:14:32] and
[1:14:33] increases in the amounts that we pay for
[1:14:36] per meeting is you know something that
[1:14:38] might
[1:14:40] be more of an incentive
[1:14:43] and the same might be said that can be
[1:14:45] said for
[1:14:46] at least
[1:14:48] the clerk and the treasurer's positions
[1:14:51] because
[1:14:55] we're all not going to be here forever
[1:14:57] so
[1:14:59] not many people have shown much interest
[1:15:01] in being on the console
[1:15:05] so anyway it's just something that i
[1:15:07] think i knew about
[1:15:08] and we're also talking about jennifer
[1:15:10] raynerdale's not here but you know we're
[1:15:12] talking about a custodial
[1:15:15] company rather than
[1:15:17] paying someone to do it it's going to be
[1:15:20] more expensive
[1:15:21] there's a number of items
[1:15:25] and i
[1:15:26] have also approached the water resources
[1:15:29] commission
[1:15:30] about
[1:15:30] an agreement
[1:15:32] for them to like help us with our
[1:15:34] drainage system again and have an annual
[1:15:37] clean out where they would come out
[1:15:39] clean out all the catch bases
[1:15:42] jet rod
[1:15:44] trouble areas if we know of any
[1:15:46] things like that
[1:15:48] um i haven't gotten numbers back from
[1:15:50] them yet but i have a request
[1:15:53] so i will bring that to the council
[1:15:57] once i have the numbers
[1:15:59] i i went ahead and did it because i
[1:16:01] didn't feel like it was something that
[1:16:04] necessarily needed your authorization
[1:16:06] if it works out great if it doesn't work
[1:16:08] out
[1:16:10] our dpw's still have to maintain
[1:16:14] okay
[1:16:15] moving on into the trustee committee
[1:16:17] reports
[1:16:19] uh i don't think there's anything for
[1:16:21] the summer festival committee that's
[1:16:24] pretty much stable
[1:16:25] cable commission
[1:16:28] i think they've had a meeting i know
[1:16:30] they called and asked if we had
[1:16:31] appointed someone yet i told them no
[1:16:34] that i expected we would this meeting
[1:16:38] decorated committee
[1:16:40] i got a
[1:16:42] communication from decorating today
[1:16:46] which i will
[1:16:49] briefly
[1:16:50] summarize
[1:16:51] um
[1:16:53] that regarding the christmas event
[1:16:55] on december 3rd
[1:16:57] the road will close at 5 pm until 9 30.
[1:17:02] the vendors there are several vendors
[1:17:05] 10 actually that will be start setting
[1:17:07] up at 5 30.
[1:17:09] um the event runs
[1:17:11] the event itself runs from 6 30 to 9.
[1:17:14] there
[1:17:15] will be some burn barrels for warmth
[1:17:18] salmon will be there
[1:17:20] and they'll have a bench in front of the
[1:17:22] tree outside for him to see children
[1:17:26] gingerbread house competition is still
[1:17:29] on there are some information and
[1:17:31] applications up here if anybody wants to
[1:17:35] participate
[1:17:38] they can be dropped off
[1:17:41] or set up on on thursday the voting goes
[1:17:44] from 6 30 to 8 30 that night and the
[1:17:47] tree lighting is at 7 pm
[1:17:51] middle school orchestra will be there
[1:17:54] from 6 30 until 7 here in the hall
[1:17:57] and there's a dj
[1:18:00] band going to
[1:18:02] be playing outside
[1:18:03] from seven until eight
[1:18:06] the ginger
[1:18:08] registration is open for the gingerbread
[1:18:12] house contest
[1:18:13] until
[1:18:14] november 20th
[1:18:21] for the villages part
[1:18:22] they're the decorating committee's
[1:18:24] asking for the banners and snowflakes to
[1:18:26] be up on the poles
[1:18:30] [Music]
[1:18:31] they want the star up this year instead
[1:18:33] of the wreath on roland hall
[1:18:36] it was re-strung with lights by the roe
[1:18:38] family so we want to thank them for
[1:18:40] their work they're volunteering to do
[1:18:42] that
[1:18:45] we do need
[1:18:47] two benches that they've put out to be
[1:18:49] secure to the cement
[1:18:51] and uh
[1:18:56] i guess that's about it so got plenty to
[1:18:59] do between now and the christmas
[1:19:01] for sure
[1:19:02] um
[1:19:05] planning
[1:19:06] commission we're having our meeting
[1:19:08] thursday oh you are okay yeah we're
[1:19:11] going to uh
[1:19:12] review
[1:19:14] some bylaw changes and
[1:19:17] finalize
[1:19:19] and submit our
[1:19:21] sidewalk
[1:19:22] plan for the next 10 years great
[1:19:26] i don't know if that will affect your
[1:19:28] december meeting or not if you want to
[1:19:31] have it considered for budget for
[1:19:35] we'll probably we we
[1:19:38] started the entrance again
[1:19:42] january we get serious and try to adopt
[1:19:45] so many meetings be able to distribute
[1:19:49] it to the members
[1:19:51] before your meeting that would be great
[1:19:54] but should i give it to you first or
[1:19:56] distribute it myself to the
[1:19:58] uh
[1:20:00] council i think i think if you bring it
[1:20:02] to the village office and the clerk will
[1:20:06] distribute it that's something you don't
[1:20:08] want to do it electronically because
[1:20:10] it's electrical
[1:20:11] oh okay
[1:20:13] well then yeah
[1:20:26] i think the clerk will have to contact
[1:20:28] mr hawkins
[1:20:29] and get him sworn in and then also get
[1:20:32] his contact information which will
[1:20:34] include his emails so okay you can
[1:20:36] probably get that to me before my
[1:20:38] thursday sure
[1:20:40] okay
[1:20:42] i think that's all we have
[1:20:43] okay great thank you and we'd probably
[1:20:45] cancel our december meeting round two
[1:20:49] okay yeah you can decide if you're next
[1:20:51] week right
[1:20:52] now okay
[1:20:55] very good
[1:20:56] uh north oakland transportation authority
[1:21:00] of council will remember that
[1:21:03] nota had been talking about becoming an
[1:21:05] act 196 transportation authority
[1:21:09] we learned that will not
[1:21:13] give us any different status with the
[1:21:16] federal government
[1:21:17] and that the regional transit authority
[1:21:20] will continue to maintain
[1:21:22] basically control over
[1:21:24] funding um
[1:21:28] so
[1:21:29] i don't it doesn't look like we're going
[1:21:31] to become an acting 196 anytime soon
[1:21:34] there's there's no advantage to it
[1:21:37] um
[1:21:38] the only the biggest change it would
[1:21:40] make it would mean that
[1:21:42] instead of each community voting
[1:21:45] their knowledge to support noda
[1:21:47] currently it's a quarter mill
[1:21:50] if we became an authority then
[1:21:53] and it was approved by the voters as i
[1:21:56] understand it
[1:21:57] then the nota would be able to levy
[1:22:01] the millage themselves and not
[1:22:04] the local communities would not
[1:22:07] levy it
[1:22:08] but since noted is represented by
[1:22:12] all the townships and involved
[1:22:14] communities
[1:22:15] we'd still have
[1:22:16] a say in what what was living but it
[1:22:19] doesn't give us taxing authority to
[1:22:22] increase
[1:22:24] the money that i'm aware of but
[1:22:26] regardless it doesn't look like it's
[1:22:27] going to happen anytime soon so
[1:22:31] pollyanne trail management council
[1:22:32] there's a meeting this wednesday
[1:22:35] there's a meeting thursday for nota this
[1:22:37] wednesday's trail council things are
[1:22:39] starting to wrap up for
[1:22:41] the winter so
[1:22:43] there's not a lot going on just trying
[1:22:45] to get some scout projects finished and
[1:22:47] things like that
[1:22:49] big news for the village park was
[1:22:52] the generous donation that we received
[1:22:55] and i think it will tie nicely
[1:22:58] in with the planning commission's
[1:23:00] efforts on the sidewalks
[1:23:02] to get us
[1:23:03] connected you know to get that
[1:23:05] connectivity
[1:23:06] and then
[1:23:08] the donation
[1:23:09] of
[1:23:11] sherry's behalf
[1:23:13] can be used for some sidewalk work
[1:23:15] hopefully some crossing identification
[1:23:18] or maybe some signage you know directing
[1:23:21] people there things like that so
[1:23:23] i'm really relying on the park and rec
[1:23:25] commission
[1:23:26] to give us
[1:23:28] the priorities
[1:23:29] recommend to the council who do you go
[1:23:32] to for the saving program
[1:23:34] for the saving part of that to make sure
[1:23:36] that money is producing well that's going to be
[1:23:41] the council's responsibility to
[1:23:43] determine how much
[1:23:44] and then we would work with the
[1:23:46] treasurer
[1:23:47] to see how that would be because that is
[1:23:50] technically we are as trustees for the
[1:23:52] village we are responsible for that
[1:23:54] money as well so make sure it gets into
[1:23:56] something that is fairly safe it also
[1:23:58] produces
[1:23:59] right yeah i don't think it's going to
[1:24:01] make anybody rich but it's no but it's
[1:24:03] like
[1:24:04] if it'll pay for maintenance if it just
[1:24:06] comes out
[1:24:09] right great i have a question
[1:24:11] the donation um when you make a large
[1:24:14] donation like that to a municipality
[1:24:17] is there a tax ratification
[1:24:21] or is that just accepted as money in
[1:24:24] kind
[1:24:27] donations for the public good
[1:24:30] to a municipality
[1:24:32] or
[1:24:33] even a 501c3
[1:24:36] which municipalities are not
[1:24:39] um
[1:24:40] are tax exempt
[1:24:42] so that may well
[1:24:44] i can't say i'm not a tax person
[1:24:47] but donate you know okay if that was
[1:24:49] part of the estate and that was gifted
[1:24:52] to
[1:24:53] in that manner
[1:24:55] it may well be
[1:24:56] either all or part of it may be a
[1:24:58] write-off before they say
[1:25:01] no i don't mean for the people giving it
[1:25:03] i mean for you
[1:25:04] you're receiving it
[1:25:06] yeah there's no there's no tax
[1:25:07] ratifications or anything so you don't
[1:25:09] have to the village is a 501c
[1:25:12] no we're not but it doesn't work the irs
[1:25:15] considers us a
[1:25:17] tax exempt and like okay we're taxing
[1:25:20] down so you're you're the government
[1:25:22] getting the money anyway
[1:25:24] yeah the money would be used for the
[1:25:26] purposes for which it was donated
[1:25:31] okay uh can you development clock grant
[1:25:34] our monthly statement looks the same
[1:25:37] because we still haven't gotten the
[1:25:39] reallocation done but that should change
[1:25:43] soon
[1:25:44] and finally
[1:25:46] the uh
[1:25:48] the ad hoc super committee met
[1:25:50] last met met last month
[1:25:53] and um
[1:25:56] jennifer is going to give us an update
[1:25:59] uh soon if if not her then um
[1:26:03] the account of the row
[1:26:05] representative
[1:26:07] they're keeping me in the loop
[1:26:09] um
[1:26:10] so
[1:26:11] we'll just have to see how that proceeds
[1:26:14] and i have no correspondence or anything
[1:26:18] is there anything else the council
[1:26:19] members wish to bring
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[1:26:25] i'd like to make a motion to adjourn the
[1:26:26] meeting
[1:26:29] okay upon a motion by trustee kennedy in
[1:26:32] a second by trustee swack
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[1:26:46] okay thank you everybody
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