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Okay.
Good morning everyone. In the true

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spirit of reconciliation, we acknowledge
all those who call this land home now

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and for thousands of years in the past.
May we respect each other and find

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understanding together and recognize the
benefits this land provides to all of

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us. We call the meeting to order this
morning at 9:03 a.m.

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Uh we look at our agenda for today. We
have two time commitments. We have uh

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two public hearings scheduled for 10:00
a.m. and we have our delegation at 11:30

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for our 2026 bary award recipients.
Uh moving to the uh formal adoption of

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the agenda. Are there any proposed
additions, deletions, any edits to the

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agenda as presented?

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» Go, John.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move

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to adopt the agenda as presented.
>> Thank you, John. John is moved to adopt

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the agenda as presented. Is there any
discussion? Call question. Those in

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favor? Opposed? That is carried. Uh
moving down you before you you have the

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county council meeting minutes of July
16th, 2026. Are there any errors

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submissions? Anything arising from the
minutes as presented?

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» Eric.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to

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approve the council meeting minutes from
July 16, 2026 meeting.

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» Thank you, Eric. Eric has moved to
approve the county council meeting

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minutes of July 20 July 16th 2026 as
presented. Is there any discussion? Call

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the question. Those in favor opposed.
That is carried. Uh we can move down

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then in our agenda to our subdivision
applications. We have five subdivision

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applications for today. We'll start at
number one. D1 subdivision application

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2026-0291204158

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Alberta Limited. Goring Kalin, Goring,
Steve.

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» Good morning, council.

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So, as mentioned, we have sub uh five
subdivision applications before you as

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the subdivision authority. Um we'll
start with subdivision application

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2026-029.

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Um it is a subdivision of 10.09
acres um from an 86.7

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acre title for country residential use.
It let me just pull up the map here. Um

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it is directly west of the town of Noble
for boundary and north of Highway 519.

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And u with that I will pass it on to
Steve for recommendations.

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» Good morning. this uh first application
um just on the uh doorstep there to the

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town of Nobleford on the west side of
the the town and the CPR tracks there.

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Um as you can see there, they're looking
to subdivide at the very northern

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portion of their title that 10.09 acres.
Um technically this is treated as a

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first parcel out subdivision for the
applicant. Um the all the remnant of the

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quarter section on the east side is uh
is the municipality for the town of

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Nobleford as well for the uh some road
and the CPR rail line uh which doesn't

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count towards subdivision um of the
landowner applicant. Um, one of the

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unique things about this parcel as well
is there is a small little triangle

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piece at the very south end um, which is
actually in the town of Nobleford. So

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this parcel, the title itself has a
split municipal jurisdiction. So even

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though the subdivision is occurring on
the Lethbridgeidge County side of the

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border, the town of Nobleford also has
to uh um, do an approval uh, in order

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for it to go through land titles. Um so
they'll be doing a concurrent um uh

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approval on this as well which I believe
their meeting is next week uh for the

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town of Noford on it. Um so with that
this is in the IDP area um with the uh

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town of
um the that plan basically does allow um

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for a single type of subdivision um to
come out. um anything additional or

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further um some of the policies in there
then direct that an area structure plan

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that sort of thing has to be done. Um
one of the things with this application

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there is um a small little piece on the
east side running parallel to the tracks

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Lshaped there. Um as you cross the
tracks um there's a easement access

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rightway that goes up to the north for
the north land owner and there's a yard

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up there as well. there's access right
away that goes directly to the west to a

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yard on the west side there. Um so as
you come across the tracks um that

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little piece will be as Kayn shown there
will be dedicated as road um in order to

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uh capture it now um so it doesn't get
lost um if any further subdivision was

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to occur in this area. Um the IDP uh
does talk about a a road concept plan

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has to be done on this west side uh to
provide some continuity to the uh north,

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south and the west. Um so that piece
will be uh that first um piece will be

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in place to cross the tracks. Um the IDP
did identify this um crossing um as an

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access. Um however, the CPR does uh
control the access of the crossing

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there. Um the applicants did have to
obtain a uh CPR crossing agreement uh

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for the CPR for this subdivision in
order to utilize that uh which they do

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have in writing uh that agreement. Um
one of the things in reviewing the

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application um the town did request that
that road just be kind of squared off or

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the line run all the way parallel on the
west side there. um they have a little

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access that goes into their water
reservoir parcel there uh to the south

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and and just to kind of keep that um
squared off and then their area too

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would be included in that. Um so be
reflected one of the conditions of

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approval.
Um so with this um the south end of the

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parent parcel does touch uh highway 519.
Um, so during the circulation, Alberta

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Transportation, uh, since they're using
internal access has no concerns or

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objections, uh, to the application. Um,
and there were no other objections or

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concerns, uh, received on it.

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Um, since the package came out, we've
heard from the other utility companies.

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Um, at this time, nobody requires any
easements or anything for utilities. Um

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the parcel itself will require a waiver
to be approved because it is a bare land

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um parcel at the moment at the 10.09
exceeds the threeacre parcel size. Um

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the request for the parcel as is uh is
for a couple of reasons. One is that um

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they do want to develop the main part of
the yard more to the west to be away

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from the CPR tracks. And as well uh the
parcel designed the way it is will

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follow that existing access right away
and the driveway that's there for the

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neighbor to the west and their parcel
will physically touch all the way to the

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east side um to that road dedication to
the crossing to go across the tracks

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there. Um
so with that um

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the recommendation in front of you is to
approve the application.

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Um it does conform to the IED um it is
in planning area 1B and it conforms to

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those policies as well. Um with the
waiver granted um to approve the 10

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acres 10.09 acres rather than the three.
um it otherwise complies with the land

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use bylaw and the subdivision criteria
and the approval will be based on those

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um five conditions there that um taxes
paid up to uh paid and up to date a

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development agreement entered into the
county um where the county can outline

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the terms of that road um that surveyed
plan be submitted which includes the

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road dedication that extends all the way
to the south of plan 731HG and parcel B

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which is the town's water reservoir. Um
the soils analysis would uh be done for

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the private septic system and the town
of Noford um has to provide a concurrent

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endorsement um for land titles and
approval as well. Um so with those five

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conditions the recommendation is to
approve on that basis.

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» Thanks Steve. I'd open up to council
on.

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. When I'm looking at
this subdivision um proposal, I just

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want to make sure that I understand it
correctly. The access right away that is

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going to the parcel on the left to the
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that is not that is remaining with the
me part of the parcel and I'm assuming

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that that would be handled by by some
sort of a private agreement between the

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land owners that that's not going to be
turned into a roadway or a driveway.

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» Not at this point. That's correct. will
remain in place on and it's on title

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currently.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» Mr. Chair,
>> could you just tell me again which part

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is the towns? Is it that little square
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» of of the title?
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» At the very south end

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» that piece right there.
>> Oh, so it's actually not part of this

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subdivision.
>> I mean, it's technically part of the

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title, but They're subdivating on the
county side of the parrot title and

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that's part of the remnant just the
boundary between the two of you. Um

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where there was an old road plan there
is just on the other side. So it's

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» so then does Kip Street end at the
railroad tracks.

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» Yes.
>> And then it becomes a private access or

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access agreement. Okay. That's correct.
>> Thank you.

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» Anything further?

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. Let me zoom in
>> with the land owner.

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» So to clarify for council, uh when this
application came forward, it was really

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to try to figure out how to allow for a
country residential subdivision, it

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being the first title out, but also
rectifying some of the road plan issues

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we have today and trying to make sure
that we will have road dedicated for

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future subdivisions. Um, so we looked
back at the IDP and the conceptual road

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network and determined what what amount
of road needed to be dedicated to make

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sure that other parcels will have access
if they want to develop in the future

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while still allowing this subdivision to
go forward. And then Nobleford did

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identify a really good opportunity to um
square off the triangle so that they

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have a full road plan to access their
water treatment plant. Um so there was a

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lot of opportunities to to fix existing
line work.

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Anything

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else?
Mark.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd move that
subdivision application number 2026-

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» It is exactly 2 miles um east of the
city of Lethbridge immediately east of

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the Highway 4. And this is really a
reconfiguration and consolidation of

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four titles. And so the reconfigured
titles will be um 998

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178 and 1.7 acres in size. There's a
substantial number of diagrams that

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Steve will walk through with his uh
recommendations.

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And on this application, um I guess it
the easiest way to describe it is by

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looking at at the the images um shown
the land before and after the um

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basically what the proposal is is that
it's enabled land swap and title

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reconfiguration between the adjacent
parcels. Um largely as a result of a

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project driven by the SMR. Um there's a
portion of former canal rightway in

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there that the SMRD no longer needs.
They made agreement with the land owners

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um to dispose some of it and consolidate
it into their lands and part of that too

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is just um realigning the boundaries to
some of the existing land uses um on the

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property as well along with that. So the
parcel sizes get adjusted. So um there

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will be approximately 1.7 acres that
parcel remain as irrigation plan at the

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very west end for the SMID. Um there's a
yard in there um that uh currently is

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that 3.37
hectares or 8.25 acres. Um that their

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yard, it's the same land owner that has
the title to the east, the large

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agriculture parcel. Um and on the air
photo, you can see that their yard kind

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of extends and there's fenced to the
back. Um so there's kind of following

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the angle of their existing yard and
such there and the land outside the

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cultivated land. Um and then there's a
slight adjustment between the two egg

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pieces um based on the canal and that
sort of thing. So um it is a a land swap

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and configuration occurring between all
of them. Um just as you can see there

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where the former and the blue line the
canal was just how in the end the new

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black line showed the parcel lines there
just to try to clean that up and

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straighten it out in the end with that
disposal um of the SMD canal them no

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longer needing it. So um
so with this application um there um

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there was no um provincial interests uh
historical resources that type of thing,

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environmental stuff that are affected by
it. Um the application is in close

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proximity to Highway 4, although um
transportation doesn't require anything

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and there's no concerns with it. Um the
uh the parcels themselves um with the

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realignment is that there will be no
additional titles created in the end. Um

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they start with four titles in the end
there's still four. It's just different

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sizes a little bit between the two with
that uh kind of land swap and

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configuration going on. Uh so this does
align with the county subdivision

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policies for realignment reconfiguration
of titles. There's no additional titles

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created. Um there's no objections or
concerns received um since the

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application came out. Um we've now heard
back um from the utility companies

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additional that didn't respond previous.
Um there was no easements required. Um

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so on that basis um there's a
recommendation of approval in front of

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you and that'd be based on the four
conditions of the taxes being paid. If

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the county requires a development
agreement that they enter into that with

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the county. Um the third condition is
the survey final survey. It needs to be

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done based on the approval on that
reconfiguration and the fourth just had

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talked about any easements there. Um it
doesn't look like any required but um it

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does align with your reconfiguration
policy. So the recommendation is to

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approve it.
>> Thank you Steve. I'd open up to council.

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. well complicated in
the paperwork side of things. It looks

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like it's been well laid out. And um
with that, I would like to move the

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recommendation that subdivision
application 2026-077

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be approved subject to the conditions as
outlined in the draft resolution.

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Thank you, Eric. Eric's move the
recommendation that subdivision

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application 2026-077
be approved subject to the conditions

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outlined in the draft resolution. Is
there any further questions or

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discussion?
Seeing none, I will call the question.

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Those in favor? Opposed? That is
carried.

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» Uh, third subdivision for today.
Subdivision application 2026-085.

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Kaylin,
>> thank you. Um, so subdivision

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application 2026-085.
It's within a portion of northeast

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quarter 11821 west of the 4th.
Here is the map. So it is located um one

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mile west of Highway 4 and a half a mile
east of the city of Lethbridge. Uh the

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proposal before you is to subdivide a
6.83 83 acre title from the existing 79

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acres and this falls under the legacy
yard country residential use under our

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land use bylaw. And with that, I'll pass
on to Steve for recommendations.

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» So, this application is I guess your uh
second at the county here since the

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policy went in on the legacy yard site.
Um this application was made on that

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basis. The uh parent title itself has
existed since 1952.

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Um, the property has been in the same
family for multiple generations. Um,

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there's still the older home that was
built in 1950s on the property. Um, and

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then there's a second newer home on the
west side of the parcel that was built

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around 1996.
Um, that uh is on the west side. Um, so

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the application, as you can see there,
they're taking the yard out of the

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northeast corner along the road. Uh,
there's a 72.65 acre residual. Um there

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is an abandoned gas well on this
property, but it's located um to the

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southwest on the agricultural portion
and the existing yard and the

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subdivision coming out um meets the
setback distances uh to that abandoned

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gas well. So there's no uh concerns with
that. Um the application is in the IDP

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area um with the um city of Lethbridge
um with the legacy yard site policy

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being put in and the or the city was
circulated at that time. Um this

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application conforms to the county's
bylaw subdivision criteria and on that

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basis uh the city of Lethbridge uh has
no concerns and did not object to the

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application. Um as well it is within the
referral distance of AT and AT also has

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no concerns uh since uh their
infrastructure roads aren't being

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impacted by it and they take access off
that uh local county road.

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Um so this application um does meet the
legacy yard site um criteria it would

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appear. Um you as council have to be
satisfied with that. Um but it does

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appear the yards has existed for at
least 50 years or more and um the um

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it's been in the same family.

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So the recommendation in front of you uh
is to approve the application. Um on

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this application there would be the
applicability of a municipal reserve

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payment to the county. Um that market
value did come in at 55,116

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per acre for the municipal reserve
payment on that 6.83 83 acre yard

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portion only. Um it's not applicable on
the other agricultural residual piece.

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Um so with the payment of municipal
reserve um the other four conditions

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there with the taxes development
agreement uh the final survey plan um

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and then the fourth referred to the
utility easements um we've since heard

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back by from ATCO and foris and um they
don't require anything at this point.

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Um, so with that, the recommendation is
um to approve

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um the application as applied for.
>> Thank you, Steve. I'd open up to

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council.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, just one

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quick, how many dollars an acre did you
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» It came in at 55,116
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» Okay. With that, I would move uh
subdivision application 2026-085

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with the four conditions. Thank you,
Lauren. Lauren has move the

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recommendation that subdivision
application 2026-085

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be approved sub conditions for the
reasons outlined in the draft

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resolution. Is there any further
discussion? Go ahead.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. not so much
question or whatever, but just a

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statement on it that I think the the
land assessment is plenty high on it uh

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due to location and existing land around
it. Thank you.

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Anything else?
I'll call the question. Those in favor?

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Opposed? That carries.
Our fourth subdivision application 2026-

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0-086.

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Okay. Thank you, council. Um, so
subdivision application 2026-0-086.

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It's a portion of the southeast corner
quarter 10 1121 west of the 4th. It is

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located a mile north of the town of
Picturebutes.

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So, right there. Um, and just west of
Highway 25. The proposal before you is

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to res-split a title, which is 5.38
acres into two titles being 2.48 and 2.8

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respectively for country residential
use. And with that, I'll pass it on to

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Steve for recommendations.
So, this application in front of you is

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a uh res-split of an existing title, 20
acres less in size. Um that the county

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has a subdivision policy um
uh to enable such. Um as you can see

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maybe in the photo there, they have a
developed yard in the north side with a

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uh dwelling on there. They're looking to
subdivide the south portion. Um that

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south portion a little bit larger at 2.8
acres. It will include on the west

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perimeter or sorry the east perimeter I
should say um a a panhandle that goes up

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to the north end where the existing h
access is that goes out to highway 25 um

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to provide direct physical access um to
the uh that south parcel. Um so as part

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of the application there will be a
little uh service road dedication at

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that very northeast corner there a
little uh 20x 20 box um at the access

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point there. Um that is a requirement of
Alberta transportation. Um they don't

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require and won't take service road
along the whole um east perimeter there.

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Uh because as you can see the the parcel
pretty much dead ends at the south end.

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it runs into the LNID
um into uh reservoir land um at the

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south end there. Uh so there's uh no
need no opportunity for additional

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subdivision or access at that south end
there. Um that this last parcel here is

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it would be kind of like uh the uh end
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Um so with the road dedication being
provided, Alberta Transportation has no

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objections to the application and has
authorized that the county could u

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proceed to approve it. Um as part of the
referral out um it is just outside the

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IDP area with um town of Picture but um
or sorry it is just within the boundary

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but it's at the very uh kind of north
perimeter of that IDP. Um this type of

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subdivision is allowed in the IDP as a
respplit under the county's policy uh

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provided the uh policy is conformed with
um in reviewing this application. There

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are a couple confined feeding operations
to the west of this. Um it does meet um

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all the MDS's to the operations on the
west and northwest of it. Um so lying

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outside the applicable MDS minimum
distance separation area. Uh so there's

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no conflict there.
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as part of this application, Aqu gas uh
was the one utility company that does

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require an easement for a gas line that
runs through there. Um so with that um

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it does conform to your respplit um
policy. The access um will be dealt with

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um through the condition there of
providing that service road that shared

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approach kind of there at the northeast.
Um there was no objections or concerns

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received on it. Um so the recommendation
is to approve. Um there is also the

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applicability of municipal reserve
payment on this application on the

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parent title which would be the 5.3
acres. Um that value came in at 66,037

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per acre. Um the other conditions be uh
the six outline there. taxes paid the

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development agreement entered into uh to
address the road and the access um the

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soils analysis be undertaken for that
south 2.8 8 8 acre lot. Um their final

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plan of survey be submitted. Um that the
ACO um and Ford has also requested

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utility easement be addressed through
condition number five and that that road

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dedication um has to be um signed off
and approved by Alberta Transportation

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um as part of the final endorsement
which is addressed through condition

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number six. Um so with those six
conditions and the municipal reserve

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payment um with those being applied the
recommendation is to approve as applied

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for.
>> Thank you Steve. Thank you Kayla. I

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would open it up to council.
>> Good job.

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. Seems like a very
straightforward um split of a parcel uh

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in an area that is heavily fragmented.
Anyway, so I'd like to move that

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subdivision application 2026-086
be approved subject to the conditions as

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outlined in the draft resolution. Thank
you, John. John has moved the

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subdivision application 2026-86
be approved subject to the conditions as

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outlined in the draft resolution. Is
there any further discussion?

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Call question. Those in favor?
That is carried.

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And our final subdivision application
for today, uh, number five, subdivision

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application 2026-087.

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Kaylin,
>> thank you, council. So, subdivision

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application 2026-087.
It is within the north half 13821 west

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of the 4th and southwest quarter 24821
west of the 4th.

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So again, it's backlo
immediately east of the city by one mile

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and it's adjacent to Highway 4. Um the
proposal before you today is to

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subdivide a fragmented quarter and
create a 76 acre agricultural title um

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from the current 110 acre um title. And
with that, I will pass it on to Steve

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for recommendations.
this one.

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» Yeah, this application uh the final one
here is to um basically um divide the

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what's left of the quarter section on
the west side of highway 4 and the CPR

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rail line um into the two agricultural
portions. Um the south is the uh

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cultivated u vacant agricultural land
portion at the 76.57 acres. The north

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portion will be the remnant of what's
left in that title. Um that will be a

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title in two parts and currently has to
remain that way. Um just the way the

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canal was done with this title and the
um CPR rail line in Highway 4. Um and

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there's a irrigation canal um on the
west side as well. That little northern

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triangle piece is basically a physical
island. Um it doesn't touch any road at

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all. Um so that has to remain with the
portion just south of it. Um so it's

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what we call a title in two parts. So
it's a legally it is one parcel. Um they

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do kind of cross that canal to get in
there. Uh the canal on the west side. Um

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but it there's no uh legal physical
point where it it touches any public

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roadway at all. Um and that's the only
way to get in there is by crossing the

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the canal. Um
so this application um it is um an

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agricultural uh split. the um it is
within the IDP area obviously along uh

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close to the city there. Um it's just uh
beside Steuart Siding. Um the city has

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no objections or concerns to the
proposal um as the applicants have

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applied for and for it being an
agricultural subdivision. Um as well

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Alberta Transportation has uh no
concerns um not taking any direct access

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to Highway 4 there. Um
so the with this application um

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there was uh during the circulation um
Aqu gas did request um a utility

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easement for the south piece there where
they have a gas line running through um

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that's currently unprotected. Um so
other than that um it is um does meet

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the policies as a as a fragmented title
um being split into the two agricultural

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portions. Um and with that I think the
conditions there uh the five outlaid in

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front of you with the taxes a
development agreement into it if the

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county needs it. Um they would uh need a
surveyor sketch just to confirm where

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they want to put that property line
which is close to the existing dwelling

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and yard uh that there's no
encroachments and it is able to meet the

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setbacks to the dwelling and such. Um
and that the ACO easement as a fifth

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condition be applied. Um so with those
five conditions um the recommendation is

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to approve um as applied for.

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» Thanks Steve.
>> I would open up to councel.

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» John.
>> Thank you Mr. Chair. When I first saw

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this I was trying to figure out why that
that north parcel was

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sort of to be remained in there and why
it wasn't subdivided out. But now I get

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it. there's absolutely no access to it
because of way the way the railroad and

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and the canals run. So, I appreciate
that explanation. And um seeing that,

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I'd like to move that subdivision
application 2026-087

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be approved subject to the conditions as
outlined in the draft resolution.

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Thank you, John. John has moved that
subdivision application 2026-087

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be approved subject to the conditions
outlined in the draft resolution. Is

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there any further discussion from
seeing none question

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that's carried? Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.

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Uh why don't we move in our agenda to
item F uh department reports F1.2

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uh development permit application 26
uh D0134.

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» Good morning Jessica. Good morning
everyone council. Um so in front of you

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here today is development permit
application 26-d0134

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for Vanderhoff. I'm just going to pull
it up here. So this particular

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application
um in front of you is for an addition to

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an accessory building uh to operate a
powersports business in Iron Springs.

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Um, you may recognize it from last year
as we did have I apologize there's no

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map. Um, we did have an application come
in for this exact use um in early 2025.

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Um, that application was approved. This
is the same applicant. They are just

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wishing to enlarge the building by an
additional about 500 square ft. Um so

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the proposed use is located on a parcel
zoned Hamlet direct control for which

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council is the development authority. Um
so the use of the existing shop as a

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power sports business as I mentioned was
previously approved by county council on

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the property. The the actual addition
footprint beyond what was approved last

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year is an additional 525 square feet
for a total addition uh footprint of

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1575 square feet.

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Um, under the land use bylaw 24-07, the
commercial use is considered suitable by

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council um is a permitted use under the
Hamlet Direct Control District. Um, for

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we we did receive uh comments back from
Alberta Transportation since um this

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report was initially drafted. U they've
come back stating that uh they are

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exempt from a roadside development
permit. um that is listed as an

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informative on the drafted development
permit um before you. Um additionally,

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the development permit draft lists that
the previous development permit be

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rescended and that the applicant is to
submit a grading and drainage plan um

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for approval by the county prior to
beginning construction. Um at which time

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once it's approved, they would have two
years uh to to complete that grading.

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Um, for these reasons, the
recommendation here is that development

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permit 26-d0134
be approved as drafted. Um, the

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alternatives are that county council may
refuse the development permit

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application. This would be at your
discretion on the basis that the

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addition could be seen as an unsuitable
use and uh the financial impact is that

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any future development on the parcel is
subject to a commercial industrial tax

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rate. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Jess. I'd open it up to

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council for any questions or discussion.
John,

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» thank you, Mr. Chair. When I look at the
U proposal on the recommendations, we're

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saying that um that the proposed
addition increases the previously

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approved additional footprint by 525
square ft. But when I go and look down

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on the proposed plan,
>> this plan,

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» it's saying a proposed 45 by35 addition.
So that would give us an additional

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» 1,575
square feet,

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» right? Yeah. Okay. So that was just a
typo then. Um,

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» no. So what it's saying is that last
year we approved an addition for just

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over 1,000 square f feet. The applicant
wishes to expand it further. So instead

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of the thousand, it will be just over
1500 total.

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00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,920
» I'm less confused now. Okay. Thank you.
I was trying to figure out where the

416
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:09,640
math was not working in my head. So I
appreciate that. Um, thank you. That's

417
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,640
all I had.

418
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:19,280
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, and uh, I I
think it fits within its area and

419
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:24,079
existing business that's uh, doing well
and has a place in the community. I'd

420
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:29,920
like to move the recommendation that
development permit 26-d0134

421
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:34,880
be approved as drafted.
>> Thank you, Eric. Eric has moved that

422
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:38,880
development permit 26-D0134
be approved as drafted. Is there any

423
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,880
further discussion?
Call question. Those in favor post. That

424
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,240
is carried.
>> Thank you.

425
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:52,160
» Thank you, Jessica.
>> Uh why don't we now move up uh one item

426
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:57,359
uh department reports F1 uh development
and infrastructure F1.1

427
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:01,560
bylaw number 26-016 Leers County
subdivision authority bylaw.

428
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:24,800
Okay. Thanks. So, thank you, council.
Bylaw 26-

429
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:29,839
bylaw 26-016.
It is the Lethbridge County Subdivision

430
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:33,760
Authority bylaw. Um, we discussed it
last meeting and only passed first

431
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:38,240
reading and I'm actually here to follow
up on a few questions council did have.

432
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Um, so to start with, I will run through
the subdivision authority bylaw and

433
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,319
what's being proposed. Um, so the
municipal government act requires every

434
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:51,839
municipality to have a subdivision
authority bylaw. Um, Lethbridge County

435
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:56,720
has relied on bylaw number 1103 since
1995, which is dedicated council as a

436
00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:01,359
subdivision authority. Um I think since
1995 the Lethbridge County has faced

437
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,520
substantial change in uh planning and
development pressures and we do receive

438
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:11,599
quite a few applications every year. Um
it is reaching 40 applications um

439
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:17,200
annually that are coming before council.
Um so just practicality of what our

440
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:21,440
application volumes are today and
differing u planning administration

441
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:26,800
practices and how this authority can be
delegated and really placing routine

442
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:31,119
decisions before council is how we are
managing it today and um reflecting on

443
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:36,000
modern practices where routine decisions
are um delegated to administration.

444
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:43,359
Um so the bylaw proposed before you
today if I go to it

445
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:48,560
it's really meant to identify um a
two-tier model. Um basically the

446
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:52,000
subdivision authority is delegated to
the director of development and

447
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:58,160
infrastructure where applications are
considered routine. So examples when

448
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:03,359
we're looking at agricultural um
title reconfigurations, the first

449
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:07,599
parcels out um when a area has already
been resoneed for group country

450
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,800
residential by council um subdividing
those out into the two acre appropriate

451
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,079
lot size that complies with area
structure plan. Like those are the

452
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:19,760
examples of very routine applications
that we're seeing that the the director

453
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:25,839
would be the authority. Um this bylaw is
indicating that a decision would all

454
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:30,560
would be rendered by council in very c
certain circumstances. Um so if the

455
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,839
applicant requests that the application
go before council. So this probably

456
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:37,839
would be in a circumstance where
administration and the applicant don't

457
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,000
agree maybe we're in a circumstance of a
refusal. They may ask for it to be heard

458
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:47,280
by council before the subdivision
authority makes a decision. The second

459
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:51,520
is if there is any referring agency. So,
Alberta Transportation, a school board,

460
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,359
if any of those referring agencies
object the application, it would come

461
00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:00,240
before council instead of administration
making the decision.

462
00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:05,520
Um, if there's any variance or waiver in
the application, if a statutory plan is

463
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:09,520
not being applied that council approved,
any circumstance where um a

464
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,480
consideration outside the land use
bylaw, that would have to come before

465
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,800
council. So, if you recall, there was
one application today um that we heard

466
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:21,280
that required a very slight waiver that
would have had to come before council if

467
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:25,119
this is the bylaw we're considering.
Um if there's any if the director

468
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,240
determines that there's any significant
policy, technical, community impacts,

469
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,640
they would have the discretion to bring
it before council instead of them making

470
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:36,400
a decision. Um and then if council
passed any resolution or bylaw that

471
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,040
dedicated subdivisional authority for a
specific area. So, if we look at some

472
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:45,760
specific subdivisions in the county that
in the past we've made decisions about

473
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:49,200
um McDermott SE section 26 where like
we've put very prescriptive land use

474
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:52,480
policies in place. Those could be
circumstances where council would make

475
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,000
the decision at a long-range planning
perspective that I want to continue to

476
00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:00,000
be hearing the the subdivisions coming
before us. So, those are the kind of

477
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:04,800
prescriptive cases where council would
hear the application even though you're

478
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:10,640
de delegating it to the director.
Um, and so I just want to roll back up.

479
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:14,560
No, in the council report, I did give
you an outline of application

480
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:22,240
statistics. I pulled applications since
2020 um to through 2025 and then 2026

481
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:27,040
year to date. So, we've received 187
applications over five years. Those have

482
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:31,200
all came before council. It's averaged
about 31 applications per year, but in

483
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:35,920
recent years, it's been more like 35 to
40.

484
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:40,240
We have had 16 um year to date. I know
there's currently six applications with

485
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:46,400
orus um under review. So there is six
more coming. Um during this period there

486
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:50,480
was only three applications refused and
subsequently I only found one

487
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:55,040
subdivision authority appealed um which
went to Lapert.

488
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:59,599
Uh 21 of the applications were
considered for waiverss. 18 of those

489
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:02,880
were approved of the 21.
And in terms of processing time, because

490
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:07,359
I think this is the biggest impact that
we will see if if authority is

491
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:11,599
delegated. Um so from an application
being received to deem complete,

492
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:16,560
currently the county averages about tw
12 days. Um the municipal government act

493
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:21,520
requires that we're doing that within 20
days. Um complete to a decision. So once

494
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:26,000
we deem it complete, we do the
circulations, draft up the decision,

495
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:30,880
schedule it for council, we're at 56
days. Um, so the municipal government

496
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:35,359
act requirement is 60 days. So yes,
we're hitting the target, but I want to

497
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:40,480
say one in five applications are taking
more than 60 days. So about 20% of

498
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,920
applications are exceeding the municipal
government act requirements and we're

499
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:49,040
having to ask the applicant for an
extension to get it before council.

500
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:53,760
Um, from decision to endorsement, the
average is 160 days. This is a really

501
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:57,839
hard one to nail down and it's because
it's a a lot under the control of the

502
00:46:55,839 --> 00:47:01,920
applicant meeting the conditions that
are being set. Um so different personal

503
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:06,400
circumstances happen, there's delays,
financial delays, like that is really

504
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:11,200
out of our control, but I just wanted to
give you a ballpark of where we're at.

505
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:15,119
Um there is applications taking a number
of years to actually get endorsed to

506
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:20,079
land titles because meeting conditions
is is challenging.

507
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,480
Um, so then I want to talk about the
types of applications. I kind of gave

508
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:29,119
you a breakdown the best I could. So
about 25% of our applications are

509
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:37,680
agricultural reconfigurations. They're
very routine. 55% are rural egg existing

510
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:42,880
um farmards or bareland farm farmsteads.
Routine again. 8% are that group country

511
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,480
residential where you've already heard a
previous decision. So you've heard a

512
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:51,440
resoning or an area structure plan
before you and the subdivision is just

513
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:54,960
that subsequent step. And then 12% is
commercial industrial. Again, usually

514
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,319
there is a council decision related to
resoning or area structure plan at some

515
00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:02,800
point in time. So it has been before
council before.

516
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:05,920
Um so I hope that information clarifies
the questions that we had last meeting,

517
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,079
but I'm more than happy to answer some
more questions.

518
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,040
Any questions?

519
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:22,720
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, I am opposed
to this. I believe the council should

520
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:26,640
remain the subdivision authority and I
would agree that there are some

521
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:30,960
exemptions to that. I think we had a
perfect example today where you

522
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:36,559
reconfigured the property lines out by
Steuart siding. Uh both cases were

523
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:41,200
fairly simple. I think both of those are
more than adequately handled by

524
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:47,520
administration. However, I do feel it's
part of our duty as a municipally

525
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:52,000
elected counselor to do uh act as a
subdivision authority.

526
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:56,240
Ultimately, regardless of whether
administration is the authority or we

527
00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:00,480
are, council is still responsible to the
rateayers. So, we will hear about it one

528
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:06,480
way or another.
I think the current process is working

529
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:12,400
and it's fitting in the MGA timelines
and uh according to all we've heard

530
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:16,480
before once you take over from Old Man
River uh you will be able to speed up

531
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:20,800
the process and should narrow down the
times.

532
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:26,319
So I think uh that it should speed up
and be more than a more than adequate

533
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:32,720
time. Thank you.
Thank you, Lauren. John,

534
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:38,079
» thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I would e echo
the statements that councelor Hickeyi

535
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:42,559
has said. I believe that it is uh
it is our responsibility as a public

536
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:50,319
facing figures to deal with public
facing decisions like this. Um and you

537
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:56,319
know looking at the the load in terms of
the applications that have have been put

538
00:49:52,160 --> 00:50:01,280
in over the years um you know I I don't
see this as being an extremely

539
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:06,559
burdensome process as it is. We're
meeting the do the timelines within the

540
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:12,400
MGA and appreciate that you know at 20%
of the time there may have to be an

541
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:16,480
extension for one reason or another. Um,
in in terms of, you know, if we're

542
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:19,920
looking at the decision to force at 160
days, well, that really doesn't factor

543
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:25,839
into this decision- making process
whatsoever in my mind because that is

544
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:31,440
something that is uh related to
information or or you know, how fast the

545
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:37,040
applicant actually gets his stuff
together and gets put into place. Um, I

546
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:42,079
I do agree that things like a simple
property realignment would be something

547
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:48,160
that we wouldn't necessarily need to
see. Um, but anything more complicated

548
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:53,359
than that, I would still like to be to
see come in front of council and council

549
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:58,400
be the ultimate decision.
Thank you, John.

550
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,800
just maybe for the benefit of of Lauren
and John that weren't here at the last

551
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:06,559
meeting. Um I think we anticipated some
of the comments that you would make

552
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:10,720
today and I think that was um part of
the reason why council at the time

553
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:13,440
decided to push this to today. So I
would look around at your fellow

554
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,040
counselors and just acknowledge the fact
that I think we did see this being

555
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,760
something that we felt was something
that should come to council and for

556
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:27,200
further discussion with a full albeit
Kevin not being here today. um group of

557
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:32,480
council here. Um I think the
conversation that we had at the time was

558
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:36,960
perhaps different. Um and I guess maybe
I'll just speak from my perspective. I I

559
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:41,280
I guess I see our role differently than
maybe John and Lauren do in the sense

560
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:46,160
that um I don't feel that it's council's
role to necessarily face public facing

561
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:53,680
issues. I think it's our job as council
to put in good policy, solid policy,

562
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:57,599
good bylaws, and then react to those
living documents in a way that I think

563
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,440
stewards a better future for the
community. I don't think it's

564
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:06,160
necessarily our job to be in the mud on
every single decision.

565
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,680
I know I I will give this credit, this
council credit. I think we do a good job

566
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,040
of of staying the course, but I have
seen in the past when you have

567
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:17,520
counselors talking about doing it for
their guy or their people, and I think

568
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:21,200
that's a slippery slope. I think at the
end of the day, we're elected to

569
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:25,440
represent all of the municipality,
whether they live in our division or

570
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:29,280
not. So, I do think there's a bit of a a
balancing act there. And and I and I do

571
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,800
think it's opened up interpretation how
you see your role. I don't think there's

572
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:37,839
a right way or a wrong way. I just think
that maybe we see it differently. Um,

573
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,599
Kayn, I thought with some of the
comments we had last time, I appreciate

574
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:46,960
some of the information you brought back
and and I would again counter both

575
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,160
Lauren and John and that I think what
you're saying and what you where you

576
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,640
have concern I think has been addressed
within the draft and that, you know,

577
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:59,200
there there's the opportunity for every
applicant to come before council. Um, I

578
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:03,200
think it takes away some of those maybe
rubber stamp ones, which I would

579
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:08,319
suggest, um, by and large every
subdivision application we had today.

580
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:13,359
Um, and I think as Kayn outlined, one
perhaps. Um, but I still feel that was I

581
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:18,640
would have felt comfortable with uh with
staff making that call. Um, yeah, I I

582
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:23,680
guess it just comes down to what you as
council want. Um, how you see us moving

583
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:28,000
forward and evolving and I just think
this is a further step in that

584
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:35,680
evolution. Um yeah, those are just my
thoughts. Eric,

585
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:39,599
» thank you, Mr. Chair. Um
yeah, read it the first time, read it

586
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:43,680
the second time. Still, uh don't have
any

587
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:49,040
solid um
uh yay or nay on it. There's there's

588
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:54,079
definitely uh apprehensions on to not
current, but future that at some point

589
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:59,680
down the road. Um the whatifs are
definitely

590
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:06,319
dark and lurking on um on things going
not in a positive direction. Uh I I

591
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:14,079
think I can comfortably draw consensus
that um there's room for improvement and

592
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:20,160
as council we can we can be part of that
uh to to help some of this out. So, what

593
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:27,920
I'd like to propose today is that we
proceed with a second reading and um and

594
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:37,280
then once again uh those that are
opposed um state the

595
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:42,800
state the the direct concerns and
see that they're they're not being

596
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:46,319
addressed. I a bunch of them are being
addressed I think by by reading it

597
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:51,520
comprehensively and then there's a few
that I think could also be looked at a

598
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:58,960
little bit further. So that's my
proposal that I'd like to move the

599
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:04,480
bylaw. Let me pull this up.
that bylaw 26-016

600
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:12,240
being the subdivision authority bylaw be
read for a second time

601
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:17,760
with the idea that we table the third
and make sure that we have it fully

602
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:23,440
fleshed out. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Eric. So, Eric has moved that

603
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:28,640
by 26-016 being the subdivision
authority bylaw be read a second time.

604
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:32,240
I'd open it again up for any discussion
or comments. Go Mark.

605
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:37,200
» Sorry, just one comment. I don't see
this as a as a threat to the authority

606
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:41,599
or the control of council. I see this as
a compromise. It gives council still we

607
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,839
have, you know, we still have the final
discretion. If there's an issue,

608
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:51,119
residents can bring it forward to us and
council can oversee that and and address

609
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:55,200
that and adjudicate it. I think it's
moving forward as we've progressed and

610
00:55:52,960 --> 00:56:00,079
as things are changing. Um I this is
just another piece of of of of the um

611
00:55:58,319 --> 00:56:06,079
county moving forward and being more
proactive and progressive. Um so I

612
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:10,160
understand Lauren and John's concern and
uh you know given the history and we've

613
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:14,400
always done it that way. Um but I think
moving forward

614
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:19,839
um you know there's room for for change
and improvement and I don't see anything

615
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:27,000
threatening in here. Um so I I would you
know I'm support I would support it. Um,

616
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,000
so we can move on to the motion.

617
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:35,839
» Yeah, go ahead. Cool.
>> I'm not going to speak for or against

618
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:43,040
it. Just a couple points of clarity. Um,
one thing that we tried to balance in in

619
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:45,680
this is a change like this provides I
mean like was already mentioned the

620
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:50,960
applicant the right to bring it before
council anyways. It would also allow for

621
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:57,599
council to be the appeal.
um board for subdivisions which provides

622
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:01,040
a different oversight and one that
provides more contextual awareness of

623
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:06,160
the county and some of the land use
conflicts and the actual bylaws and

624
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:11,599
policies that are in place. And so we're
trying to walk that balancing act of

625
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:16,880
council maintains oversight. The flip
side of that concern for me is I've been

626
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:20,960
here three years. I can think of one
subdivision that council amended and

627
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:25,119
maybe there's more, but I can only
recall one subdivision recommendation

628
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,200
that was even amended from what was
proposed in three years.

629
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:32,160
Now,
at the same time, we get a lot more

630
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,799
feedback on development permit
applications and other things that

631
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:38,960
council doesn't have the full context
on, and it's an information gap because

632
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:42,400
you're not in the weeds on those. So,
it's like, well, what about this and

633
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:47,040
what about this? But I have yet to see
something that has been a a gross change

634
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:50,640
in direction from what's been
recommended. And so I think for us the

635
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,000
line that
the challenge I have I think this

636
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,839
provides a better customer service and
maintains council oversight. The

637
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,760
challenge I have on the other side is
you're going to have less context on all

638
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:06,240
of those things until they come or if
they come before council. So it is a bit

639
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:10,000
of a like trust that we can hand that
off. And so I know Kaylin tried to walk

640
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:14,960
this with this bylaw, but if there's
things you guys want to see differently,

641
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:17,599
we I'm it cuts both ways. I just wanted
to put it out there that we're not

642
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,640
pushing one one way or the other. We're
trying to set the stage for the

643
00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:24,839
strategic plan and some of the other
things we've heard from council. So

644
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:33,680
» thank you, Mr. Chair. Um I I appreciate
uh Reef Campbell's comments about, you

645
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:38,400
know, the fact that that this particular
council has been very good about making

646
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:43,200
sure that it, you know, we're the
perspective that we give isn't about

647
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:47,760
helping out one of our friends or our
rate payers. Um, but I also think that,

648
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,359
you know, we have to take the and that's
taking the people out of the the

649
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,720
situation in the sense that it can be a
slippery slope and there are there may

650
00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:01,040
have been times in the past and there
may be times in the future where where

651
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:04,960
that may be an issue, but that also goes
with the the people in the

652
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:10,160
administration that we have right now. I
have the utmost confidence in in um you

653
00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:15,200
know our administration and how they
handle things but that may not

654
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:20,880
necessarily be the case down the road as
well. So you know I think that that that

655
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:25,599
comment can be sort of can work on both
sides of it. you know, when we're we're

656
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:32,960
talking about if there's a change in the
individuals, I I still, you know, my

657
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:37,200
opinion on this is that uh that, you
know, we're involved in this and we see

658
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:43,760
this and even though there isn't
necessarily a lot of uh denials or or

659
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:50,559
massive changes, we're actually involved
and we know what's happening with it.

660
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:56,160
And to um to CEO Beck's comment about,
you know, we see more problems with the

661
00:59:52,960 --> 01:00:00,640
development side. Why I think that is an
a natural progression of the fact that

662
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:04,480
that has been delegated away from
council meaning council isn't aware of

663
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:11,359
what's happening and when those
complaints come in we're not aware of

664
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:16,160
it. Um and and you know moving this uh
subdivision authority into

665
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:19,520
administration's hands will start to
garner the same problems that we're

666
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:25,359
having with the development permits in
the sense that there's a lack of context

667
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:30,520
around what's happening with it. So I um
I still can't support this. Thank you.

668
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:39,440
» Thank you Mr. Chair. So just the one
thing that you had mentioned, Cole, I I

669
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:44,400
would be adamantly opposed no matter how
this turns out to be council being the

670
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:49,599
subdivision appeal authority or board
because it should be an independent

671
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:53,200
body. I mean once it gets mixed up, it
gets back to that old thing, oh it's my

672
01:00:51,119 --> 01:01:00,640
neighbor, so I better support it. I
think it's completely uh an independent

673
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:04,000
process and it needs to remain that.
>> Go ahead.

674
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:08,960
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, for myself,
I just find, um, you know, you get the

675
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,400
the counselors, we're the the eyes and
ears out in the community. You you're

676
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:17,200
out there talking to people, you're
hearing the concerns, you're um, yeah,

677
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:23,119
you bring that stuff forward when you
come into uh, you know, dealing with the

678
01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:28,240
subdivisions and um, it's just not
necessarily will everybody always

679
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:34,160
contact the office for
information or guidance or whatever. So,

680
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:41,359
um I still think that it should be held
with the um us the counselors and um

681
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:47,839
just because we are kind of out in the
in the public there.

682
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:54,119
Thank you, Tony. Uh so, Eric has moved
uh second reading of bylaw 26-016

683
01:01:56,079 --> 01:02:03,359
being the subdivision authority bylaw.
Uh second reading. If there is no

684
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:09,680
further discussion, I'll call the
question. Those in favor?

685
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:13,119
Those opposed? That is lost. Thank you,
Kaylin.

686
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:17,839
» So, I just want to inform council I do
have like we do need to amend the

687
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:21,359
subdivision authority bylaw um just with
us leaving Man River Regional Service

688
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:27,200
Commission. So, I do have an amended
version um and that simply remains

689
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:31,520
subdivision authority with council and
the only thing that is delegated is the

690
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,200
subdivision extensions which are already
delegated to Old Man River regional

691
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:39,040
service commission. So, it's rather
allowing subdivision extensions to only

692
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:44,000
be dealt with administration which is
the status quo. So, I do have that

693
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:47,599
bylaw. I can um it can be discussed
today or I can bring it forward at the

694
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,640
next meeting. Yeah, perhaps just given
the time um if we could bring that

695
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,359
forward that'd be wonderful.
>> Thank you.

696
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,359
» Thank you.

697
01:02:55,359 --> 01:03:03,599
» Thank you.
Uh it is past 10:00.

698
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:09,280
So why don't we move in our agenda to
item E, our public hearings. If we could

699
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:15,599
recess the public portion of our meeting
and move towards our public hearing

700
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:19,839
number one, uh 2610. Uh we are here
today to hold the public hearing for

701
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:24,480
bylaw 26-010 amendment to the land use
bylaw to redesate a portion of plan

702
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:30,319
0815575
block 1 lot 212026

703
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:34,799
range road 223 within the southwest
151123 west the 4th from rural

704
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:40,559
agriculture to business light
industrial. I would entertain a motion

705
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:47,559
to open the public hearing. John.
>> Thank you Mr. Chair. I move to open the

706
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,559
public hearing on bylaw 26-010.

707
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:55,520
Thank you, John. John has moved to open
the public hearing for bylaw 26-010.

708
01:03:53,839 --> 01:04:00,480
Is there any discussion? Call the
question. Those in favor?

709
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:03,200
That is carried. Uh public hearing is
being held pursuant to the municipal

710
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:06,160
government act as amended. The public
hearing is being live streamed via the

711
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:10,720
county's YouTube page. Public hearing
for viol 26-010 is now officially open.

712
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:16,520
I'll now ask for a review of the nature
of hearing and an overview of what is

713
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,520
being proposed.

714
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:32,240
» Thank you, council. So, bylaw 26-010 is
an amendment to our land use bylaw. It

715
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:38,720
is to reddesate a portion of plan
0815575,

716
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:42,960
block 1, lot 2. It is 1126 Range Road
223.

717
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:48,000
Um, it is red designated from rule A to
Business Light Industrial.

718
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:53,760
Let's pull up the Oh, I'm on the wrong
application.

719
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:59,520
There it is. Okay. Um, so the proposal
is um related to a transportation depot

720
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:03,920
that is currently operating on the site
in non-compliance. It was identified

721
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:08,720
back in 2025 when the landowner wanted
to expand their existing property and

722
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,440
business. Um, we identified that we
actually needed to work with the town of

723
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,480
Nobleford on an intermissible
development plan amendment which was

724
01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:22,640
passed before council back in 2025.
Um, and one of the next steps was

725
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:26,319
requiring the landowner to do a wetland
assessment prior to applying to a

726
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:30,079
resoning. Um so now they've completed
the wetland assessment which you'll see

727
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:34,559
on the resoning map is specifically that
eastern boundary which is defining the

728
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:43,760
resoning area.
Um so the redesation area landed at 43

729
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:48,079
acres and it is explicitly excluding
that wetland and the redesation to the

730
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,920
business light industrial will allow the
existing business to be brought into

731
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:57,839
compliance as well as accommodate their
proposed building expansion.

732
01:05:54,559 --> 01:06:02,240
Um so before you today is um
recommendation to read this bylaw for

733
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,280
the second and third time and this is on
the basis that it does align with our

734
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:10,240
municipal development plan to support
industrial and commercial expansion in

735
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:15,200
areas that are supported through the IDP
and it does accommodate the growth of an

736
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:18,480
existing operation. And with that any
questions?

737
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:22,880
» Thank you Kayn.
Any questions from council?

738
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:25,599
This is council soul's opportunity to
receive input from the public. Those

739
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:27,839
making presentations are asked to state
their name and review their points. We

740
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,400
ask that you refrain from asking
questions to council. The intention of

741
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:33,440
the public hearing is not to debate or
defend the contents of the bylaw or the

742
01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:36,720
position which individual counselors may
have on the bylaw. Questions asked of

743
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,839
the council by presenter may be ruled
out of order.

744
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:42,799
Presentation to council will start with
the applicant who has made a submission

745
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:46,319
followed by any other persons wishing to
comment on the proposal. Please keep

746
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,880
your comments to the point. After each
speaker, members of council will be

747
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:51,920
permitted to ask questions for the
presenter to clarify any details. No

748
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:55,200
debating or questions from the floor
will be allowed. Each speaker will be

749
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,799
allotted up to 10 minutes. Additional
time may be granted at the discretion of

750
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:04,079
councel.
With that, I would ask if the applicant

751
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:09,520
wishes to speak.
I would then ask if there's anyone else

752
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:12,160
wishing to speak to the proposed bylaw.
And for a third and final time, I would

753
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:16,559
ask if there's anyone wishing to speak
to the proposed bylaw.

754
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:20,799
If there's nothing further, I would
entertain a motion to close the public

755
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:23,200
hearing. Eric,
>> Mr. Chair, I move to close the public

756
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:27,039
hearing.
>> Eric has moved to close the public

757
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:31,440
hearing for bylaw 26-010.
Is there any further discussion? I'll

758
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:35,359
call question. Those in favor? Opposed?
That is carry. Can now resume our public

759
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,960
meeting. Kaylin, do you have anything
further?

760
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:43,440
» No, I don't. Thank you.
>> Okay. I would then uh open up to

761
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:46,880
council. Mark and then John.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like to move by

762
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,400
26-0
be read a second time.

763
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:54,720
» Thank you, Mark. Mark has moved that
bylaw 26-010

764
01:07:52,319 --> 01:08:01,799
be read for a second time. Is there any
discussion? Call question. Those in

765
01:07:56,799 --> 01:08:01,799
favor opposed that carries.

766
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:11,119
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move
that bylaw 26-0 be read a third time.

767
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:15,280
Thank you, John. John has moved that by
26-0

768
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:20,960
be read for a third time. Is there any
discussion? Call the question. Those in

769
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:25,239
favor? opposed. That is carried. I think
Kaylin,

770
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:25,239
» sorry.

771
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:33,040
» Thanks, Mr. Chair. I apologize. I should
have mentioned this before third

772
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:36,960
reading, but um I
wanted to kind of express my

773
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:43,520
appreciation for our administration and
the the landowner to actually uh you

774
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:49,279
know, get this into compliance and get
things moving in a direction where it's

775
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:55,359
uh you know, he's he's acting well
within our bylaws

776
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:59,440
and becoming a a uh you know, more in
line with uh with our policies. and

777
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:03,759
procedures rather than just sort of
operating rogue. So, thank you very much

778
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:09,719
for all the effort put in on both house
on administration and on on the part of

779
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,719
our uh rateayer.

780
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:17,120
» Thank you, John. Uh moving down our
second bylaw, bylaw 26-019.

781
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,440
Uh we are here today for the public
hearing for bylaw 26-019 amendment to

782
01:09:19,679 --> 01:09:24,319
the land use bylaw to revise the
definition of specialty

783
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:29,600
manufacturing/cottage
industry in part 9 definitions. I would

784
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:35,199
al ask for a
motion to open the public hearing for

785
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:38,000
bylaw 26-019.
Mark

786
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:41,520
» thank you mr chair I move to open the
public hearing.

787
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,520
» Mark move to open the public hearing for
bylaw 26-019.

788
01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:50,159
Any further discussion? Call a question.
Those in favor? Opposed? That is

789
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,120
carried. Uh, this public hearing is
being held pursuant to municipal

790
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:56,320
government act as amended. The public
hearings being live streamed via the

791
01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:01,679
county's YouTube page. Public hearing
for bylaw 26-019 is now officially open.

792
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:04,400
Excuse me. I'll now ask for a review of
the nature of the hearing and an

793
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:07,760
overview of what is being proposed.
Kaylin,

794
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:11,600
» thank you. So, bylaw 26-019
is an amendment to the land use bylaw to

795
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:16,560
revise the definition of specialty
manufacturing the cottage industry. So,

796
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:21,920
it's part nine of our bylaw. And this
application became about from a

797
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:25,520
Lethbridge County business who who is a
specialty manufacturing cottage use on

798
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:29,679
their parcel. Um, they're currently
operating on 11.4 acre title and they

799
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:33,120
have an existing shop and they're
actually unable to expand due to the

800
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:37,840
restrictions of the definition in our
land use bylaw. Um, so our land use

801
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:41,360
bylaw intends the specialty
manufacturing cottage industry is

802
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:45,280
small-scale on-site production,
fabrication, and processing of goods.

803
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:49,520
And it's really capped at a fixed
maximum gross area of 10,000 square

804
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:55,840
feet. And it doesn't connect to lot size
or any proximity contextual aspects of

805
01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:59,040
the lot. And because this number 10,000
square feet is actually within the

806
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:04,719
definition, the development authority
has no um authority to wave it or give

807
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:09,199
any variance. Um so it's very much a
maximum allowed. So we're with working

808
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:14,480
with the applicant and recognizing our
land use bylaw um review is is

809
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:18,640
forthcoming. Um we identified an
opportunity to um make a minor amendment

810
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:23,199
to our land use bylaw to allow
businesses like this to expand and it to

811
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:28,719
be more contextually related to the size
of their lot. Um so this use only

812
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:32,239
actually applies to the rural
agricultural zones and rural commercial

813
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:36,000
districts. Rural commercial is a
district that is used on like three or

814
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:41,600
four part parcels in the county. So very
very little impact. It's mostly rural

815
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:46,080
agriculture. Um and so basically the
proposal before you is to amend the

816
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:51,280
definition to allow for 2,000 square
feet per acre of lot area up to a

817
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:54,719
maximum of 20,000 square feet. And the
reason 20,000 was selected as the

818
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:59,760
maximum is because we are looking at
this as a rural agricultural adjacent

819
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:04,159
use and um potato storage and similar
large agricultural buildings are kind of

820
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:08,239
that 20,000 square feet. So it it did
seem um similar in nature without

821
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:13,440
becoming the category of commercial
industrial. Um so that's why the numbers

822
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:18,960
were proposed and it's just a a minor
amendment. I'll pull up the text. The

823
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:24,640
red line is right here for everyone. And
really the recommendations um is to

824
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:30,320
consider the second and first reading of
this and it does align with our

825
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:34,400
municipal development plan as we do we
do recognize that adjustments need to be

826
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:39,440
made to support economic growth and
rural diversification through strategic

827
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:42,960
and sound planning and we do recognize
that there's a wide range of

828
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:47,440
agricultural and agricultural related or
ancillary land uses that should be

829
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:52,960
considered in our um land use bylaw. So
with that, if there's any questions.

830
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:55,760
» Thank you, Kaylin.
This is council's opportunity to receive

831
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,239
input from the public. Those making
presentations are asked to state their

832
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,560
name or review their points. We ask you
refrain from asking questions of

833
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:03,120
council. The intention of the public
hearing is not to debate or defend the

834
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,679
contents of the bylaw or the position
which individual counselor may have on

835
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:09,760
the bylaw. Questions asked of the
council by presenter may be ruled out of

836
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:12,400
order. Presentations to council will
start with the applicant who made a

837
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:16,320
submission followed by any other persons
wishing to speak.

838
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,679
After each speaker, members of council
will be permitted to ask questions. The

839
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,880
presenter to for any details each
speaker will be allowed up 10 minutes.

840
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:27,679
Additional time may be granted at the
discretion of council. I would now ask

841
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:32,080
if there's anyone wishing to speak to
the proposed bylaw.

842
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:36,480
I'd ask again if there's anyone wishing
to speak to the proposed bylaw.

843
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:40,080
And for a third and final time, I would
ask there's anyone wishing to speak to

844
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:43,120
the proposed bylaw.
If there's nothing further, I would

845
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:47,520
entertain a motion to close the public
hearing. John.

846
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:54,520
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that we
close the public hearing for

847
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,520
bylaw 26-019.

848
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:02,000
Thank you, John. John has moved that to
move to close the public hearing for

849
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:06,800
bylaw 26-019.
Is there any further discussion? Call

850
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:10,560
question. Those in favor? Opposed? That
is carried. Now resume our public

851
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,520
meeting. I would open up to council for
any questions or discussion.

852
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:25,679
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, having had a
couple of rateayers that have been

853
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:30,640
caught in this particular quandry a few
years ago and had to do a significant

854
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:35,760
amount of reasoning in order to get the
buildings put together what they needed.

855
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:40,640
I uh very much welcome this change and I
think that it is a very good common

856
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:47,120
sense approach with the 2,000 per square
feet per acre that uh allows individuals

857
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:51,920
to expand as much as they possibly can
uh within reason on their parcel size.

858
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:57,600
So all that being said I would like to
move that bylaw 26-019

859
01:14:54,960 --> 01:15:02,080
be read a second time.
>> Thank you John. John has moved that by

860
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:07,280
26-019 be read for a second time. Is
there any discussion? Go ahead.

861
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:11,199
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, in your
commenting, you mentioned that due to a

862
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:15,520
hard number in there, there was no
ability for waiverss or variances. Um,

863
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:19,840
are we going to have that the same here
as well that we're going to hit the

864
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:26,560
20,000 no matter what? We'd have to
amend it. And is there any appetite to

865
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:30,800
have uh a method of flexibility?
>> Thank you, Councelor Vaness. So I did

866
01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:36,480
consider different approaches and how we
rectify this issue for rateayers. Um if

867
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:40,800
we removed it from the definition, yes,
we'd have ability to vary it, but I

868
01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:45,120
don't think it meets the intent of a
land use bylaw because rural agriculture

869
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:48,719
still needs to remain low inensity uses
and at what size of building are we

870
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:53,280
hitting the intensity that it should be
considered commercial industrial. Um so

871
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:57,280
I think this was an interimm measure to
address the immediate need of our our

872
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:01,679
residents and businesses. Well, we need
to take a look greater look at our land

873
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:05,360
use bylaw of what triggers and is
warranted commercial industrial, what is

874
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:10,480
mixed use, and those are conversations
we need to have over a larger land use

875
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:13,600
bylaw um overhaul and renewal. Um so
that's why the suggested approach was

876
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,880
just a minor amendment within our
definitions because really over 20,000

877
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:22,080
square feet we should be looking at a
commercial industrial use.

878
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:27,600
» You're welcome.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, so the

879
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:33,600
original uh 10,000 square feet, was that
connected to an acre size before two or

880
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:39,120
» Thank you, Councelor Ankerman. Um, so
no, it was purely this use is limited to

881
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:43,920
10,000 square feet. Um, so you could
have a rural egg title that was 4 acres

882
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:47,360
and technically be allowed 10,000 square
feet. Um it is a discretionary use. So

883
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:52,560
of course the development authority
would use their their discretion but it

884
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:57,679
wasn't not it tied to lot size proximity
to roads and highways. Um it was just a

885
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:02,800
blanket statement in the definition.
>> Yeah.

886
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:07,840
» Thank you Mr. Chair. So just a question
for cottage industry does and when you

887
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:13,040
say processing what exactly do you mean
by that? like it when you say processing

888
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:17,840
would be a good example like the cheese
plant but is that a cottage industry?

889
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:22,800
» Thank you councelor Hickeyi. So it is
quite a catchall definition. We do use

890
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:27,600
it quite often. You'll see in the
definition it it includes but not

891
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:31,920
limited to so it's everything from
bakery bakeries specialty food

892
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:37,760
manufacturing distilleries micro
breweries wineries um artisan and

893
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:42,480
craftsmanship um lutheran um
taxiderermis woodworking u furniture

894
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:48,159
making cabinetry like it is quite a
gamut of things it is often what I see

895
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:54,159
in development permits being used for
like egg related industries um the

896
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:58,800
specific One is like
manufacturing, steel manufacturing

897
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:04,880
related to agricultural buildings. Um,
I've seen it being used for like floral

898
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:10,480
ups. Um, I've seen it used for
breweries. So, it it's kind of using the

899
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:14,320
byproducts of agriculture or
contributing to the agricultural

900
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:18,480
industry. It kind of goes back. So, it
is quite broad.

901
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:22,239
» So, you they actually have to process
something like they just can't store

902
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,960
something. You actually have to. Okay.
Thank you.

903
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:31,679
» Yeah.
>> Uh John has moved that bylaw 26-019

904
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:34,800
be read for a second time.
>> Go ahead.

905
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:38,400
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Am I also
understanding it right now that if

906
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:41,920
somebody has a 2acre parcel capped at
4,000 square feet this time around?

907
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:45,280
» You are correct in that, Councelor
Vaness. And the reason we decided that

908
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,040
cap was reasonable is because a lot of
rule egg titles are adjacent to a group

909
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:54,000
country residential use and their
accessory buildings are maxed at 4,000

910
01:18:51,280 --> 01:19:01,080
square ft. Um so in the circumstances
where they are directly adjacent to GCR

911
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,080
um that would still seem appropriate.

912
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:08,000
» Okay. And there and there's no uh
flexibility on that number either then.

913
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:14,880
» No, not within the current definition.
And if you are a small rule egg title of

914
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:18,880
two to four acres, um you're probably
within the vicinity of an urban area.

915
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:23,679
You're probably within the vicinity of
substantial number of acreages. So there

916
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:28,880
would be a larger um adjacent property
impact um because you're going to have

917
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:33,760
more fragmentation and more houses. Um
so I wouldn't feel comfortable with the

918
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:37,080
recommendation to expand that for those
smaller parcels.

919
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:44,719
Thank you.
>> John has moved that bylaw 26-019 be read

920
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:49,840
Perry second time. Is there any further
questions? Sorry. Uh is there any

921
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,960
further uh Yeah, for a third time. Uh is
there any further discussion or

922
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:57,199
questions? I'll call the question. Those
in favor post that carries. Third

923
01:19:55,679 --> 01:20:01,199
reading. Lauren,
>> I would move third reading of bylaw

924
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:06,080
26-019.
>> Thank you, Lauren. Horn is moved by

925
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:10,560
26-019 be read for a third time. Is
there any further discussion? Call

926
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:12,960
question. Those in favor? Those opposed?
That is carried.

927
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:16,000
» Thank you, Kaylin.
>> Thank you.

928
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:20,080
» That takes us to 10:21. Why don't we
take a short recess and return at

929
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:21,679
Uh we'll call the meeting back to order
at 10:38 a.m. this morning. Uh we can

930
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:27,360
move in our agenda to administration F2
F2.1 fire investigation inspection

931
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:32,800
administrative policy. Morning Heath.
Good morning, council. Um, today I'd

932
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:36,800
like to uh talk to you about the uh fire
investigation inspection administration

933
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:41,520
policy. Uh, Lethbridge Countyy's quality
management plan, QM, formerly known as

934
01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:44,960
the quality management plan, presently
relies on a Lethbridge County Fire

935
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:49,520
investigation inspection guideline to
monitor and govern discretionary fire

936
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:53,600
investigation and inspection decisions.
Adopting this policy achieves two

937
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:57,840
things. It gives fire safety codes
officer a document defensible standard

938
01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:02,080
of care that satisfies the county safety
codes act obligations. And it also

939
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:07,119
protects rateayers by reserving formal
specialist level investigation for fires

940
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:13,280
that genuinely require it. Fatalities,
injuries, suspected criminal activity or

941
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:20,159
complex uh incidents. while routine low
complex complex uh uh and vehicle fires

942
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:24,560
are handled at no additional cost by the
attending fire officer.

943
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:28,080
So just to give you some uh a little bit
more background,

944
01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:31,280
West Lebridge County holds accreditation
under the safety codes act through a

945
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:35,520
quality management system accepted by
the safety codes council. The director

946
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:40,960
of emergency services acts as the fire
QMS manager and is the authority having

947
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:45,600
jurisdiction safety codes officer under
this accredititation. QMS schedule C

948
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:49,679
section 4.12.5
obligates the county to maintain a

949
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:55,679
defined process for fire investigations
and governs fire inspections. Currently,

950
01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:59,520
this obligation exists at the QMS level,
but has not been operationalized into

951
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:04,400
council approved policy and clearly
defines authority triggers for

952
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:09,520
investigations and limits on contract um
fire chief's actions. Without a form of

953
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:14,000
policy, contracted fire service
providers lack clear, consistent

954
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:18,560
direction on when a formal and costly
investigation is required versus when a

955
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:22,560
routine assessment by an attending fire
officer is sufficient.

956
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:26,719
There is inconsistent application of
investigative resources across the

957
01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:31,360
county's contracted fire departments,
creating both compliance risk and

958
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:35,040
unpredictable cost exposure. And the
county is exposed to liability and audit

959
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:42,400
findings from the safety codes council
for failing to formalize an accredited

960
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:47,280
process already required under the QM.
So

961
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:51,280
I I uh as far as the financial impact,
adoption of the policy is not expected

962
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:55,760
to create new co direct cost to the
county. Rather, it formalizes and

963
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:59,840
constrains existing practice. It is
expected to reduce or avoid costs

964
01:39:57,679 --> 01:40:04,639
associated with unnecessary engagement
of an NFPA 1033 qualified investigator

965
01:40:02,719 --> 01:40:09,119
or external specialist for low
complexity incidents that can be

966
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:14,320
documented by an intending fire officer
at no additional cost. duplicated fire

967
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:19,440
investigation of vehicle fires already
covered by insurer retained experts and

968
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:24,480
potential liability and remedi
remediation costs arising from

969
01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:30,560
inconistent inconsistent or undocumented
investigation decisions. So with that uh

970
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:35,920
council I would like to uh give the
recommendation that council approve and

971
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:40,000
adopt policy number 219 fire
investigation inspection policy as an

972
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:46,400
integrated component of the county's
quality management plan QV1-4

973
01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:50,719
or point4.
Any questions?

974
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:54,199
» Heath, I would open it up to council for
questions and discussion.

975
01:40:54,560 --> 01:41:03,280
John,
>> thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, Heath, as you

976
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:07,199
know, with my background, um, I had
particular interest in this and reading

977
01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:13,119
through uh, your proposal, I think it's
something that makes sense. you know,

978
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:17,679
um, in in my world outside of municipal
uh, politics has been many a time where

979
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:21,920
I've gone to a a
scene where we've had multiple fire

980
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:27,040
investigators and it is very an
extraordinarily straightforward uh, and

981
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:32,480
easy to determ situation. So, you kind
of wonder where the resources are spent

982
01:41:28,719 --> 01:41:37,920
and why they're spent on that. So, I u I
I appreciate the common sense uh

983
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:43,600
approach to this particular policy. And
um all that being said, I would like to

984
01:41:40,639 --> 01:41:48,960
move that uh council approve and adopt
policy number 219, fire investigation

985
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:55,360
inspection policy as an integrated
component of the county's quality

986
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:59,199
management system QM version 1.4.
>> Thank you, John. John has moved the

987
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:04,080
recommendation that council approve and
adopt policy number 219 fire

988
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:09,280
investigation inspection policy as an
integrated component of the county's

989
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:12,560
quality management system QM version
1.4.

990
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:17,280
Is there any further questions or
discussion? Mark

991
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:21,760
» just a quick clarification. So if um
we've contracted out this to the other

992
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:25,679
departments within the county. So if
something if there is an investigation

993
01:42:23,679 --> 01:42:32,560
held or if it's not done properly, does
that the risk falls back on the county?

994
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:37,760
» No, it would be under the uh
certification of the fire investigator

995
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:41,920
or or the fire officer that was in
instant command on scene.

996
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:46,639
» Okay.
Any other questions or discussion?

997
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:52,480
Call the question. Those in favor?
Opposed? That carries. Thanks, Heath.

998
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:59,159
Uh, moving down. F22, request for
financial relief.

999
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:59,159
Okay.

1000
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:12,639
All right. Um, just to give you a
summary, on June 15th, 2024, Lethbridge

1001
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:18,080
County Contracted Fire Services
responded to a rescue incident at Kho

1002
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:22,480
Lake. Miss Hillary Lee, uh, the
individual rescued, has since received

1003
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:27,760
invoicing for the associated mercy
response cost and has formally requested

1004
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:32,320
that council consider financial relief
with respect to these charges. Miss

1005
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:36,000
Lee's request indicates that the
incident was unplanned and unexpected

1006
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:41,679
with no insurance coverage for this type
of rescue. Miss Lee is not disputing the

1007
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:46,639
costs are that are owed, but is
requesting council's consideration of

1008
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:51,360
relief given the financial hardship and
full cost invoice would represent and

1009
01:43:48,719 --> 01:43:56,800
has offered to enter into a reasonable
monthly payment arrangement for any uh

1010
01:43:54,320 --> 01:44:00,239
amount ultimately determined to be
payable.

1011
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:04,400
Um,
just to uh give you some further

1012
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:10,000
background,
Miss Hillary Lee required emergency

1013
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:12,960
rescue assistance at Keyhole Lake. Um,
Lethbridge Countyy's contract of

1014
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:18,320
emergency response resources attended
and carried out the rescue and sub and

1015
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:22,000
subsequent transport. Uh, following the
response, Miss Lee was invoiced for

1016
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:28,080
associated emergency response costs
under the county standard cost recovery

1017
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:31,600
practice. Miss Lee has submitted uh
written court correspondence requesting

1018
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:35,920
council's consideration of financial
relief. She states that the need for

1019
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:40,320
rescue was entirely unexpected and
unplanned. She was not advised during

1020
01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:45,600
the response, rescue or transport that
significant personal uh personal charges

1021
01:44:43,119 --> 01:44:50,639
uh could result. The resulting invoice
came as a surprise and represents a

1022
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:55,600
significant financial hardship. No
insurance coverage is available to her

1023
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:58,960
for this type of rescue and she will be
uh willing to establish a reasonable

1024
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:02,960
monthly payment arrangement for any
amount council determines ultimately

1025
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:08,080
payable. Miss Lee has expressed
appreciation for the professionalism and

1026
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:12,159
the responders and is not disputing that
emergency services involve real costs.

1027
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:16,639
Her request is limited to council's
consideration of relief from a full

1028
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:21,040
invoice amount given the specific
circumstances.

1029
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:24,960
Um,
as far as financial impact, the

1030
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:28,960
financial impact to the county depends
on the option selected by councelor

1031
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:34,880
ranging from a full recovery to the
invoice in emergency costs, option A or

1032
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:40,880
to fully write off the invoice amount to
option C. Uh

1033
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:45,440
what I would like to uh look at as far
as a recommendation

1034
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:48,480
council receives this report uh this
report from information and provide

1035
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:52,239
direction to administration regarding
Miss Lee's request for financial relief

1036
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:58,320
including whether to direct
administration to bring forward an

1037
01:45:54,320 --> 01:46:03,440
amendment to fire bylaw number 22-002
establishing a cost recovery cap

1038
01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:08,320
applicable to rare and unusual emergency
events of this nature or otherwise. has

1039
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:12,480
resolved this matter as follows. uphold
the invoice as issued with

1040
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:17,119
administration to offer a monthly
payment arrangement or approve a partial

1041
01:46:14,639 --> 01:46:22,480
reduction of the invoiced amount and the
balance uh payable via monthly payment

1042
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:26,639
arrangement or wave the charges in full
in light of a unique circumstance

1043
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:31,040
presented or direct administration to
prepare an amendment to fire bylaw

1044
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:35,920
number 22-002
establishing a cap cost recovery of

1045
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:40,719
$1,500 for unusual emergency events.
example, unplanned water ice rescues

1046
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:47,119
where advanced warning of charges was
not practical. Um, and apply this cap to

1047
01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:54,000
this invoice.
So, with that, uh, any questions?

1048
01:46:51,679 --> 01:46:58,159
» Keith, I'll open I'll go to Cole first.
Go ahead.

1049
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:03,679
» Thank you, council. I just wanted to add
when we reviewed this because I think

1050
01:47:00,719 --> 01:47:10,719
the letter speaks to a lot of things or
rationale that would apply to any fire

1051
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:15,119
response unplanned unexpected
where administration believes it

1052
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:21,520
diverges is I think there's a reasonable
expectation that um people carry

1053
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:26,480
property insurance like fire risk
mitigation um response. I think this

1054
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:30,800
falls outside of that. And so we
struggled with this. We somewhat pulled

1055
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:33,520
the $1,500
out of the air where it's, hey, there's

1056
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:38,639
some accountability and there's a
discretionary component to that, but

1057
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:43,199
this is one of those ones that not only
is it the potentially the worst day of

1058
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:46,159
somebody's life. It is also not a
reasonable expectation that they would

1059
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:50,639
have insurance for this type of a
response. We don't do an excessive

1060
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:56,560
amount of them and we struggled to come
up with what that exact structure should

1061
01:47:53,199 --> 01:48:02,639
be. There's been some very very tragic
responses in the province recently.

1062
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:07,840
Um, and on the worst day of somebody's
life, I'm the last thing I want to do is

1063
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:12,159
deliver an invoice to them for something
like that that there could have been no

1064
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:16,239
reasonable expectation that they could
have mitigated the financial

1065
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:19,520
implications. So, um, I don't think
there's a perfect solution. we've put

1066
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:22,880
what we've come up with in front of
council, but I wanted to be very

1067
01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:26,800
transparent in how we work through this
and

1068
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:29,800
trying to deduce um a reasonable
recommendation.

1069
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:33,639
» Thank you.

1070
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:40,960
» Um
something that's missing on this is how

1071
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:45,360
much was the bill we sent?
>> Total bill, I don't have the exact

1072
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:48,360
number, but it's around uh I believe
$11,000.

1073
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:56,560
follow up on that.
>> Sorry. Um,

1074
01:48:53,679 --> 01:49:03,920
you know, when we first put in the u the
bylaw for for emergency services and my

1075
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:08,719
thought process in my head was around uh
you know, fire and emergency responses

1076
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:15,600
associated with that. uh because that is
something that as a homeowner or vehicle

1077
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:22,560
owner there you have the ability to
actually purchase insurance. And so the

1078
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:28,400
the whole premise behind um that was
there was an insurable avenue and or an

1079
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:33,119
area where there's another avenue for
payment. So

1080
01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:38,000
I felt at the time that it was unfair
for the municipality to take the fire

1081
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:43,600
services charges of an individual when
there is an avenue where where a

1082
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:48,400
reasonably prudent individual could
purchase insurance to indemnify

1083
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:53,760
themselves for that. So that's it's it's
not fair to put that burden on on all of

1084
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:59,360
the rateayers specifically. in
circumstances like this there there just

1085
01:49:56,159 --> 01:50:05,360
truly is no insurance that anybody could
buy for this. So

1086
01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:12,560
um this circumstances like this would
fall outside of u

1087
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:17,760
my mindset in intention when we were
having the initial discussion I think

1088
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:24,960
now five years ago about deferring uh
costs on to individuals because uh as I

1089
01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:31,360
said there's just no possible way that
anybody could or should be expected to

1090
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:39,600
purchase insurance for this. So, um, you
know, as in terms of of options, uh, A,

1091
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:44,159
B, C, or D, I'm not sure where I would
fall on that. Um,

1092
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:48,400
you know, in this particular
circumstance like amending the bylaw, I

1093
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:54,960
think that's a separate issue from this
particular conversation. Um, I think the

1094
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:59,440
the bigger conversation has to be around
what do we do in the future on this, but

1095
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:04,239
but the conversation in front of us
right now is what do we do in this

1096
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:09,239
particular circumstance? And I'm not
100% certain where I want to land on

1097
01:51:06,239 --> 01:51:09,239
that.

1098
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:16,560
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, yeah, this was
another one that, uh, you know, I read

1099
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:20,239
through several times and, um, you know,
I sympathize. I feel bad for the young

1100
01:51:18,159 --> 01:51:24,320
lady. She's, you know, she made a
mistake. I think she owns it. Um

1101
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:29,280
throwing $11,000 bill at her. I don't
think it's the right thing. Um I think

1102
01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:34,000
that um there should be something. So
the 15 the the option D that you've

1103
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:37,360
given there is to put a $1,500 cap.
That's something that's affordable, be a

1104
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:40,880
life lesson for that, but it's still
there's something. It's not that we're

1105
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:46,320
we set a precedent by waving the entire
fee. So um I think move you know based

1106
01:51:44,639 --> 01:51:49,840
on your recommendation your report here
I I would you know I could certainly

1107
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:54,679
support that recommendation D is an
option just moving forward. So

1108
01:51:55,440 --> 01:52:04,719
» thank you Mr. Chair. Um,
was there a part of this that uh uh a

1109
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:08,560
significant bill came from uh the water
rescue portion and was there a portion

1110
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:14,880
that
potentially Lethbridge County didn't

1111
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:18,480
have um contracts in place or or things
in place that uh we could have had in

1112
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:21,119
place or maybe even should have had in
place.

1113
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:25,520
» Right. Councelor Venison, thank you for
the question. Uh yes, there was water

1114
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:29,040
rescue efforts and there was costs
associated with it. I have been in

1115
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:33,440
consultation with the city of
Lethbridge, Lethbridge Fire and

1116
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:39,760
Emergency Services as far as um would
they be willing to work with this uh the

1117
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:44,800
the billing process and and uh they are
willing and I have a verbal agreement at

1118
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:48,880
this point with uh Deputy Chief Chris
Maris and uh we are going to move

1119
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:55,599
forward with that and he has promised me
that he will they will look at some type

1120
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:58,239
of relief if not all of it.
>> Thank you, Mr. chairman through the

1121
01:52:56,719 --> 01:53:02,880
chair to councelor Van Essen. I would
just add that even with our agreements,

1122
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:07,280
we are we are liable to pay the the
response rates either negotiated rates

1123
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:11,840
and they vary. City of Lethbridge has
their own schedule of fee bylaw and then

1124
01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:16,080
north of the river we pay at or we pay
the Albert transportation rates and we

1125
01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:24,560
have a different agreement with Coldale.
So there would be a cost impact to our

1126
01:53:20,639 --> 01:53:29,360
um to our rateayers by changing this.
Um, I know Haley is just pulling the

1127
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:32,639
actual cost of this response and then
maybe if I could ask Keith to speak to

1128
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:36,480
the number of these types of calls we
see on average a year. I know we had

1129
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:41,639
discussed that and it was fairly small
but there is a financial implication to

1130
01:53:38,159 --> 01:53:41,639
making this change.

1131
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:46,800
» Go ahead.
>> Uh, based on the details that I just see

1132
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:52,239
on the invoice, um, the total bill was
$9,182.50

1133
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:57,920
50 cents that was build between various
stations and various municipalities um

1134
01:53:55,040 --> 01:54:01,719
including the city of Lethbridge. Uh the
bill is now $12,855.50

1135
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:11,599
because we she continues to incur uh
finance charges because she has not made

1136
01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:17,400
any payments to the outstanding invoice.
Um so that just gives you a little bit

1137
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:17,400
more context

1138
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:26,639
» and to answer the question as far as
occurrence it's very rare um that these

1139
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:30,960
you know they do come up in sometimes
you'll get one or two a year but then

1140
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:36,639
you might not get one for five years.
So, these are unique circumstances and

1141
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:41,679
being a a first responder myself in my
past, I I can definitely say that these

1142
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:46,239
are rare occurrences and they don't
happen that much, but when they do,

1143
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:50,880
they're life impacting and and now this
is financially impacting for her as

1144
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:55,080
well.
>> Any other comments or questions?

1145
01:54:55,199 --> 01:55:02,080
» Go ahead.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I guess we I

1146
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:07,440
feel we should put a a proposal out
there one way or other. Um, we've often

1147
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:11,280
discussed at length, you know,
reductions and the things against it

1148
01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:15,679
that's been talked about at length. So,
I'm just going to put a proposal out

1149
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:19,800
there. Um, half of original bill on
terms is my proposal.

1150
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:33,920
So, as I'm sitting here contemplating
this whole circumstance, I come back to,

1151
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:40,080
you know, the original intent of us
passing the bylaw about putting

1152
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:45,520
emergency services on to onto uh
individuals.

1153
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:52,639
was the and the intent behind that was
to mitigate costs for the for the county

1154
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:58,000
and for our rate payers for
circumstances where there was the

1155
01:55:54,880 --> 01:56:04,719
potential for the responsible parties to
carry insurance to cover off their

1156
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:12,480
potential liability on this. Um, and
looking at at that and looking at the

1157
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:18,480
intent of what we originally tried to do
and realizing that, you know, a a rescue

1158
01:56:16,239 --> 01:56:25,440
of this nature and a water rescue or
anything where there is actually human

1159
01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:29,920
life in peril, um, I I'd be more apt to
just,

1160
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:37,440
you know, either wave the charges or put
it down to a very nominal fee. Um, I I

1161
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:44,880
just I really struggle with with us
putting a financial burden on somebody

1162
01:56:40,639 --> 01:56:49,040
for a rescue. Um, and and part of the
reason I struggle with this is that if

1163
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:51,920
you know, we do this and we set a
precedent on it and we say, "Okay, well,

1164
01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:56,159
you know, we'll give you payments on
that." But then, you know, what happens

1165
01:56:54,639 --> 01:57:00,080
the next time that somebody's trapped
out on Keyhill Lake and they hear about

1166
01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:03,280
this and they start thinking, "Oh, gee,
I can't afford it, so I'm not going to

1167
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:10,719
call a rescue." and then we end up with
a body recovery situation. I I really I

1168
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:14,639
I don't think that that passing this
bill on to this individual meets the

1169
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:21,280
intent of what we originally were trying
to do. And um and I don't think that

1170
01:57:18,639 --> 01:57:27,440
it's something that us as a municipality
should be looking at at doing just from

1171
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:31,440
moral grounds. To be perfectly honest, I
think the right thing to do in this

1172
01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:37,280
circumstance is is understand that this
is not an insurable situation. They they

1173
01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:41,040
have no potential of of passing this on
to recovery. Even if they wanted to buy

1174
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:45,520
insurance for this, it's just not
something that is available. So, I I

1175
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:51,440
think I would be more in favor of just
either full-on waving this or just

1176
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:57,520
having a very nominal charge.
>> Maybe a question to council. Is there is

1177
01:57:53,360 --> 01:58:05,440
there an appetite from council to as uh
option D suggests is there an appetite

1178
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:09,440
to u enact an amendment to establish a
cap moving forward? I know I I maybe

1179
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:14,400
just to separate the two from this
incident to to moving forward. I think

1180
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:17,679
we could pro we could potentially um
take a two-pronged approach if that was

1181
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:25,159
council's appetite. Is there an appetite
from council to look at amending that

1182
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:25,159
and and uh instituting a cap?

1183
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:33,440
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh I I can
appreciate the attempt on that and I

1184
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:38,639
think that there there will be an
avenue, but I there are two unintended

1185
01:58:37,119 --> 01:58:44,800
consequences. Next thing you know, we
are we are on for something significant.

1186
01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:48,639
and using John's logic of well they
could have got insurance or they

1187
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:57,119
couldn't got a couldn't have uh could
set us up for uh some significant

1188
01:58:52,480 --> 01:59:04,239
liability in in these situations. Uh so
I don't think that is a discerning mark.

1189
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:09,440
Um we all have our our bills uh and
responsibilities on that. So,

1190
01:59:07,599 --> 01:59:15,679
um,
yes to recovery, but or to a cap, but,

1191
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:19,880
uh, going to be pretty tight guidelines
if if I were to support it.

1192
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,000
Thoughts?

1193
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:29,199
I I would concur with councelor Vanessin
that if we were going to put a cap on

1194
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:35,760
that, it would have to be very
specifically set up for

1195
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:41,520
unique set of circumstances and not just
an unusual circumstance because, you

1196
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:45,520
know, if if there's a potential loophole
for somebody to come in and say, well,

1197
01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:50,960
you know, I couldn't get insurance
because

1198
01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:55,920
um that that would uh degrade the nature
of the bylaw. So, you know, I would be

1199
01:59:54,080 --> 02:00:00,320
I'd be willing to certainly look at an
amendment to the bylaw, but I think it,

1200
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:07,000
you know, to councelor Vaness's point,
it would have to be very very specific

1201
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:07,000
about what those circumstances would be.

1202
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:13,840
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I I would agree
with that. I think that getting into the

1203
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:20,080
specific details is going to be a a bit
of a challenge, but uh I I would

1204
02:00:17,599 --> 02:00:22,960
certainly look at that.
>> Thank you.

1205
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:31,599
Just again, Terrina, what I said before,
I would support just prov giving this

1206
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:36,480
young lady an invoice for the $1,500. I
think 4,500 is too steep. And I think it

1207
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:41,760
was just young girl stupid, you know,
bad choices and uh I just I think it's

1208
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:45,199
it's the right thing to do. And again,
tied to the insurance pieces, everybody

1209
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:48,880
said they're sitting here today. So, but
I think that's that's my would be my

1210
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:54,239
recommendation is that we just give her
an invoice for $1,500.

1211
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:58,560
» You make that motion.
>> I I can if you want to do that or this

1212
02:00:56,239 --> 02:01:01,199
is you just this this report is just
being received for information. So, this

1213
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:04,960
is moving forward. You're not
>> Well, there's there is two elements to

1214
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:09,520
Okay.
>> I'd make it a motion that we if you'd

1215
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:15,440
like that. That's
>> And then just uh uh

1216
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:20,080
if uh How would I read that
>> and then review the bylaw with and

1217
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:23,679
clarify?
>> Would you be comfortable with uh with

1218
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:25,280
item D then Mark?
>> Yeah.

1219
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:28,880
» Making that as a motion.
>> Yeah. With the amendment that Eric had

1220
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:33,119
talked about around tightening up that
definition of the emergency what's an

1221
02:01:30,639 --> 02:01:34,960
unusual emergency to make clarify that
further.

1222
02:01:33,599 --> 02:01:36,400
» So that would come back to council for
approval then.

1223
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:39,400
» Absolutely.
>> Okay.

1224
02:01:40,719 --> 02:01:46,080
» Well, I think these are two steps. One
would be amending the bylaw, which is

1225
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:49,360
something that would have to happen at a
different meeting. But the the other

1226
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:53,280
issue is what do we do with this young
lady at this particular point in time,

1227
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:56,159
» right?
>> Yep.

1228
02:01:54,239 --> 02:02:00,000
» Yeah. But if we did one, a motion
covering just

1229
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:06,040
what we would like to do with this lady
would probably clean things up for

1230
02:02:02,239 --> 02:02:06,040
administration, right?

1231
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:12,000
» I'm I'm
I'm just directing traffic. However

1232
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:15,679
you'd like to uh however you'd like to
proceed. If Mark, if you if you want to

1233
02:02:13,599 --> 02:02:20,639
make that a single motion uh to adjust
the invoice uh to $1,500. I think that

1234
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:23,920
that would I think that would satisfy
this for the time being. And then

1235
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:29,360
perhaps we could get a second motion to
direct administration to bring back uh

1236
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:35,199
fire bylaw uh 22-002.
Would that be uh agreeable to staff?

1237
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:39,840
Okay. So then Mark is Mark, I'll let you
use your words. You you go ahead. How

1238
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:44,800
you like if it Sorry. Go ahead.
So,

1239
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:50,639
I would move that we invoice
the $1,500 for this event.

1240
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:54,639
» Okay. Is there any questions or
discussion on that motion?

1241
02:02:52,880 --> 02:03:01,440
» Go ahead.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, definitely

1242
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:07,760
disagree with the $1,500. We the basis
of the 1500 is being prepared on the the

1243
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:13,760
who and not the what and we're trying to
uh look at it as a young unfortunate

1244
02:03:10,719 --> 02:03:18,239
person who made a bad decision and we
are trying to set not only policy but

1245
02:03:16,239 --> 02:03:25,360
also everything has an expense and
expenses are large. So, um, although it

1246
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:31,199
may be unpopular, I'd like to make an
amendment to your motion to the $4,500.

1247
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:37,679
And if that gets defeated, that's that's
okay. But I think that it needs to be it

1248
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:42,560
needs to be more and that there um uh
yeah, you book an ambulance, you get a

1249
02:03:39,679 --> 02:03:46,639
bill, you book anything. And to say
that, well, I'm I'm not going to go to

1250
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:54,080
the hospital. Uh, I just spent time
where a 15-minute hospital visit was

1251
02:03:50,159 --> 02:04:01,599
a,000 bucks. Um, it's a fact of health
services. And so, anyway, my motion is

1252
02:03:58,159 --> 02:04:04,960
an amendment to yours for $4,500.
Okay. Thank you, Eric. I'm going to

1253
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:09,520
assume that you don't deem that as a
friendly amendment, Mark. Okay. Uh, so

1254
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:14,880
then we'll deal with the amendment. Eric
has amended to change the $1,500 and

1255
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:18,480
amend that to $4,500.
So if there is there any further

1256
02:04:16,159 --> 02:04:23,040
discussion on that? Okay, I will call
the question on the proposed amendment

1257
02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:27,679
changing the invoice amount from $1,500
to $4,500.

1258
02:04:25,599 --> 02:04:31,840
Uh any further discussion? I will call
the question. Those in favor, those

1259
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:37,360
opposed.
So that is defeated. We will now go back

1260
02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:41,520
to Mark's initial motion to invoice uh
for this incident in the amount of

1261
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:46,080
$1,500.
Is there any further discussion? I'll

1262
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:50,960
call the question. Those in favor?
Those opposed? That then carries. Uh I

1263
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:57,320
would now entertain a motion to direct
administration to bring back fire bylaw

1264
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:57,320
number 220002.

1265
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:06,480
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would uh like to
move to direct administration to bring

1266
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:13,360
back an amendment to fire bylaw number
22-002

1267
02:05:08,159 --> 02:05:18,320
to cap recovery costs at uh a specified
amount

1268
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:23,719
for unusual emergency events
um and the events to be very very

1269
02:05:20,719 --> 02:05:23,719
specific.

1270
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:31,760
Okay. Is there any discussion on that
motion to direct administration to bring

1271
02:05:28,239 --> 02:05:36,560
back uh an amendment to fire bylaw
202022-002

1272
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:42,920
uh to establish a cap and type
parameters on the specifics of the

1273
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,920
incidents?

1274
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:49,280
» Just kind of thinking out loud. Thank
you. Uh how would you define those

1275
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:52,320
special
>> Yeah, I think maybe just bringing it

1276
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:56,320
back would probably
>> I don't Yeah, fair enough. We don't want

1277
02:05:54,639 --> 02:05:59,040
we don't need to word smith that. Yeah,
>> I understand what you guys are

1278
02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:01,280
» referring to.
>> You you're comfortable with that. Just

1279
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:04,400
to bring that back.
>> Okay.

1280
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:09,760
» So, uh John is direct administration to
uh prepare an amendment to f fire bylaw

1281
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:14,239
number 22-00002.
Any further discussion? I'll call the

1282
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:17,280
question. Those in favor? Those opposed?
That carries. Thank you.

1283
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:21,040
» Thank you.
>> Uh thanks, Eve.

1284
02:06:18,719 --> 02:06:24,880
» Thank you.
Uh we have two pieces of correspondence

1285
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:32,440
before us today. Uh item one from the
National Police Federation.

1286
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:32,440
Uh you can read that at your leisure.

1287
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:40,960
Uh at the bottom you'll see there's a
couple bullet points regarding Alberta

1288
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:45,199
Sheriff's uh cease further investment in
an advancement to the Alberta Sheriff's

1289
02:06:42,719 --> 02:06:50,480
Police Service as a replacement RCMP. uh
release comprehensive and independent

1290
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:54,239
and public available feasibility studies
and a number of other bullet points

1291
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:58,639
there. Uh like I said, read that at your
leisure. And our second item uh

1292
02:06:57,280 --> 02:07:05,360
correspondence is from the Southern
Alberta Chinese Association, the 2026

1293
02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:10,239
barbecue, uh August 30th, and it's at
the Rotary Picnic Shelter,

1294
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:16,079
entertainment, food service. Uh and the
cost is $25 for adults and $15 for

1295
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:20,239
children. letter for are free. If you'd
like to attend that, I'm sure we can

1296
02:07:18,639 --> 02:07:22,880
arrange.
Talk to Candace and we'll make that

1297
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:26,320
happen. Widler.
>> Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Weren't they

1298
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:31,440
also requesting
uh a sponsorship instead of the city of

1299
02:07:29,199 --> 02:07:39,960
Lethbridge? They wanted us to be the
sponsor for their page. Or did I misread

1300
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:39,960
her email when I got it?

1301
02:07:46,639 --> 02:07:54,400
No. Yeah. In that in that and there is
there is a second um link there. Candace

1302
02:07:51,599 --> 02:07:57,119
the letter.
>> City of Lethridge sponsored our event

1303
02:07:55,840 --> 02:08:01,520
last year. We are hoping Lethbridge
County might consider supporting us this

1304
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:06,199
year as well if possible. Uh we would
include the lo countyy's logo on our

1305
02:08:03,199 --> 02:08:06,199
poster.

1306
02:08:08,079 --> 02:08:17,560
I would I would open up to council for
if you would like to

1307
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:17,560
if someone's interested in pursuing that

1308
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:25,800
» just did it have a figure in it.
>> There is no financial number. No.

1309
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:32,760
» What is our usual donation policy like?

1310
02:08:38,639 --> 02:08:45,320
couple hundred usually or what would
they what would I don't know what the

1311
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:45,320
policy would cover.

1312
02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:51,920
» I would move that we make a donation of
$200 towards their request for the

1313
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:57,599
poster.
>> Okay. Uh so Lauren has moved to donate

1314
02:08:55,199 --> 02:09:01,440
$200. I'm assuming from the counselor
discretionary

1315
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:04,320
or from where would you like that to
come from?

1316
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:10,880
Council donation.
>> Okay. From the council donation fund.

1317
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:16,639
» That's okay.
>> Yep. Okay. Uh so Lauren has made that

1318
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:21,440
motion. Is there any discussion?
>> Okay. I'll call the question. Those in

1319
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:26,800
favor? Opposed? That carries. Okay.
Thanks, Lauren.

1320
02:09:23,679 --> 02:09:32,000
Uh okay. I think that takes us to the
end of our public meeting for now. We do

1321
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:37,040
have our 11:30 delegations. Uh we do
have a few uh larger items to try and

1322
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:39,840
move through and close. So why don't we
move into a closed session? I would

1323
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:45,040
entertain a motion to enter a closed
session. Mark Mark has moved to go into

1324
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:50,760
a close session at 11:11 this morning.
Any discussion

1325
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:50,760
called question? Those in favor

1326
03:28:59,600 --> 03:29:02,600
Sound

1327
03:29:12,640 --> 03:29:20,000
good? Okay. Whenever you're ready. Okay.
We'll call the meeting back to order at

1328
03:29:17,120 --> 03:29:24,399
12:30 this afternoon. Uh we have two
items remaining for discussion in close

1329
03:29:21,760 --> 03:29:28,479
session. Item three, uh intermunicipal
matters, ATIa section 26, disclosure

1330
03:29:26,479 --> 03:29:35,279
harmful to intergovernmental relations.
And item four, uh, CA report ATIA

1331
03:29:31,600 --> 03:29:39,760
sections 19, 20, 28, and 29. So with
that, I'd entertain a motion to enter a

1332
03:29:37,200 --> 03:29:45,200
close session again. John John is moved
to go to close session at 12:31 this

1333
03:29:41,760 --> 03:29:48,760
afternoon. Any discussion? I'll call the
question. in favor.

1334
04:26:57,359 --> 04:27:04,239
out a close session. Uh, we have one
item.

1335
04:27:01,600 --> 04:27:08,319
Uh, John,
thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move

1336
04:27:06,640 --> 04:27:13,840
that Lethbridge County support the
proposed Green Acres Foundation to

1337
04:27:10,800 --> 04:27:19,840
borrow $10 million for the $26 million
capital project of the affordable

1338
04:27:15,840 --> 04:27:25,439
seniors apartment building at 105
Kathina Boulevard West Lethbridge

1339
04:27:23,199 --> 04:27:31,040
and that Lethbridge County understands
that the request for $10 million in

1340
04:27:28,800 --> 04:27:34,720
external financing requires ministerial
approval and the Lebridge County

1341
04:27:32,960 --> 04:27:39,120
acknowledges that under the Alberta
Housing Act

1342
04:27:36,399 --> 04:27:45,520
Uh member municipalities continue to be
requisition to fund operating costs of

1343
04:27:41,520 --> 04:27:49,840
seniors lodging facilities.
John has made that motion. Is there any

1344
04:27:47,680 --> 04:27:55,120
discussion?
I'll call the question. Those in favor?

1345
04:27:52,080 --> 04:28:04,040
Opposed? That carries. Anything else
with our public meeting today?

1346
04:27:58,880 --> 04:28:04,040
» Eric is adjourned at 128.