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Good morning everyone. In the true

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spirit of reconciliation, we acknowledge

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all those who call this land home now

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and for thousands of years in the past.

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May we respect each other and find

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understanding together and recognize the

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benefits this land provides to all of

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us. We call the meeting to order this

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morning at 9:03 a.m.

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Uh we look at our agenda for today. We

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have two time commitments. We have uh

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two public hearings scheduled for 10:00

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a.m. and we have our delegation at 11:30

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for our 2026 bary award recipients.

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Uh moving to the uh formal adoption of

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the agenda. Are there any proposed

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additions, deletions, any edits to the

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agenda as presented?

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» Go, John.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move

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to adopt the agenda as presented.

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» Thank you, John. John is moved to adopt

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the agenda as presented. Is there any

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discussion? Call question. Those in

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favor? Opposed? That is carried. Uh

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moving down you before you you have the

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county council meeting minutes of July

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16th, 2026. Are there any errors

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submissions? Anything arising from the

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minutes as presented?

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» Eric.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to

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approve the council meeting minutes from

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July 16, 2026 meeting.

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» Thank you, Eric. Eric has moved to

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approve the county council meeting

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minutes of July 20 July 16th 2026 as

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presented. Is there any discussion? Call

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the question. Those in favor opposed.

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That is carried. Uh we can move down

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then in our agenda to our subdivision

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applications. We have five subdivision

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applications for today. We'll start at

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number one. D1 subdivision application

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2026-0291204158

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Alberta Limited. Goring Kalin, Goring,

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» Good morning, council.

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So, as mentioned, we have sub uh five

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subdivision applications before you as

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the subdivision authority. Um we'll

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start with subdivision application

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2026-029.

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Um it is a subdivision of 10.09

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acres um from an 86.7

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acre title for country residential use.

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It let me just pull up the map here. Um

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it is directly west of the town of Noble

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for boundary and north of Highway 519.

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And u with that I will pass it on to

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Steve for recommendations.

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» Good morning. this uh first application

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um just on the uh doorstep there to the

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town of Nobleford on the west side of

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the the town and the CPR tracks there.

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Um as you can see there, they're looking

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to subdivide at the very northern

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portion of their title that 10.09 acres.

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Um technically this is treated as a

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first parcel out subdivision for the

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applicant. Um the all the remnant of the

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quarter section on the east side is uh

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is the municipality for the town of

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Nobleford as well for the uh some road

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and the CPR rail line uh which doesn't

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count towards subdivision um of the

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landowner applicant. Um, one of the

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unique things about this parcel as well

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is there is a small little triangle

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piece at the very south end um, which is

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actually in the town of Nobleford. So

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this parcel, the title itself has a

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split municipal jurisdiction. So even

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though the subdivision is occurring on

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the Lethbridgeidge County side of the

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border, the town of Nobleford also has

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to uh um, do an approval uh, in order

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for it to go through land titles. Um so

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they'll be doing a concurrent um uh

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approval on this as well which I believe

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their meeting is next week uh for the

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town of Noford on it. Um so with that

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this is in the IDP area um with the uh

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town of

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um the that plan basically does allow um

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for a single type of subdivision um to

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come out. um anything additional or

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further um some of the policies in there

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then direct that an area structure plan

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that sort of thing has to be done. Um

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one of the things with this application

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there is um a small little piece on the

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east side running parallel to the tracks

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Lshaped there. Um as you cross the

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tracks um there's a easement access

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rightway that goes up to the north for

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the north land owner and there's a yard

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up there as well. there's access right

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away that goes directly to the west to a

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yard on the west side there. Um so as

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you come across the tracks um that

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little piece will be as Kayn shown there

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will be dedicated as road um in order to

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uh capture it now um so it doesn't get

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lost um if any further subdivision was

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to occur in this area. Um the IDP uh

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does talk about a a road concept plan

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has to be done on this west side uh to

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provide some continuity to the uh north,

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south and the west. Um so that piece

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will be uh that first um piece will be

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in place to cross the tracks. Um the IDP

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did identify this um crossing um as an

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access. Um however, the CPR does uh

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control the access of the crossing

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there. Um the applicants did have to

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obtain a uh CPR crossing agreement uh

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for the CPR for this subdivision in

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order to utilize that uh which they do

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have in writing uh that agreement. Um

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one of the things in reviewing the

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application um the town did request that

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that road just be kind of squared off or

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the line run all the way parallel on the

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west side there. um they have a little

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access that goes into their water

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reservoir parcel there uh to the south

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and and just to kind of keep that um

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squared off and then their area too

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would be included in that. Um so be

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reflected one of the conditions of

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approval.

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Um so with this um the south end of the

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parent parcel does touch uh highway 519.

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Um, so during the circulation, Alberta

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Transportation, uh, since they're using

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internal access has no concerns or

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objections, uh, to the application. Um,

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and there were no other objections or

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concerns, uh, received on it.

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Um, since the package came out, we've

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heard from the other utility companies.

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Um, at this time, nobody requires any

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easements or anything for utilities. Um

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the parcel itself will require a waiver

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to be approved because it is a bare land

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um parcel at the moment at the 10.09

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exceeds the threeacre parcel size. Um

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the request for the parcel as is uh is

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for a couple of reasons. One is that um

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they do want to develop the main part of

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the yard more to the west to be away

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from the CPR tracks. And as well uh the

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parcel designed the way it is will

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follow that existing access right away

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and the driveway that's there for the

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neighbor to the west and their parcel

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will physically touch all the way to the

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east side um to that road dedication to

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the crossing to go across the tracks

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there. Um

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so with that um

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the recommendation in front of you is to

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approve the application.

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Um it does conform to the IED um it is

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in planning area 1B and it conforms to

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those policies as well. Um with the

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waiver granted um to approve the 10

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acres 10.09 acres rather than the three.

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um it otherwise complies with the land

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use bylaw and the subdivision criteria

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and the approval will be based on those

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um five conditions there that um taxes

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paid up to uh paid and up to date a

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development agreement entered into the

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county um where the county can outline

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the terms of that road um that surveyed

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plan be submitted which includes the

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road dedication that extends all the way

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to the south of plan 731HG and parcel B

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which is the town's water reservoir. Um

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the soils analysis would uh be done for

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the private septic system and the town

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of Noford um has to provide a concurrent

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endorsement um for land titles and

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approval as well. Um so with those five

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conditions the recommendation is to

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approve on that basis.

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» Thanks Steve. I'd open up to council

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. When I'm looking at

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this subdivision um proposal, I just

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want to make sure that I understand it

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correctly. The access right away that is

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going to the parcel on the left to the

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that is not that is remaining with the

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me part of the parcel and I'm assuming

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that that would be handled by by some

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sort of a private agreement between the

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land owners that that's not going to be

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turned into a roadway or a driveway.

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» Not at this point. That's correct. will

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remain in place on and it's on title

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currently.

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» Okay. Thank you.

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» Mr. Chair,

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» Could you just tell me again which part

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is the towns? Is it that little square

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» Of of the title?

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» Yeah.

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» At the very south end

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» That piece right there.

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» Oh, so it's actually not part of this

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subdivision.

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» I mean, it's technically part of the

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title, but They're subdivating on the

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county side of the parrot title and

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that's part of the remnant just the

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boundary between the two of you. Um

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where there was an old road plan there

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is just on the other side. So it's

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» So then does Kip Street end at the

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railroad tracks.

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» Yes.

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» And then it becomes a private access or

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access agreement. Okay. That's correct.

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» Thank you.

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» Anything further?

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. Let me zoom in

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» With the land owner.

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» So to clarify for council, uh when this

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application came forward, it was really

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to try to figure out how to allow for a

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country residential subdivision, it

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being the first title out, but also

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rectifying some of the road plan issues

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we have today and trying to make sure

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that we will have road dedicated for

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future subdivisions. Um, so we looked

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back at the IDP and the conceptual road

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network and determined what what amount

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of road needed to be dedicated to make

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sure that other parcels will have access

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if they want to develop in the future

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while still allowing this subdivision to

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go forward. And then Nobleford did

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identify a really good opportunity to um

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square off the triangle so that they

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have a full road plan to access their

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water treatment plant. Um so there was a

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lot of opportunities to to fix existing

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line work.

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Anything

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else?

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Mark.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd move that

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subdivision application number 2026-

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» It is exactly 2 miles um east of the

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city of Lethbridge immediately east of

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the Highway 4. And this is really a

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reconfiguration and consolidation of

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four titles. And so the reconfigured

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titles will be um 998

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178 and 1.7 acres in size. There's a

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substantial number of diagrams that

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Steve will walk through with his uh

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recommendations.

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And on this application, um I guess it

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the easiest way to describe it is by

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looking at at the the images um shown

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the land before and after the um

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basically what the proposal is is that

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it's enabled land swap and title

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reconfiguration between the adjacent

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parcels. Um largely as a result of a

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project driven by the SMR. Um there's a

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portion of former canal rightway in

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there that the SMRD no longer needs.

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They made agreement with the land owners

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um to dispose some of it and consolidate

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it into their lands and part of that too

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is just um realigning the boundaries to

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some of the existing land uses um on the

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property as well along with that. So the

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parcel sizes get adjusted. So um there

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will be approximately 1.7 acres that

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parcel remain as irrigation plan at the

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very west end for the SMID. Um there's a

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yard in there um that uh currently is

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that 3.37

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hectares or 8.25 acres. Um that their

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yard, it's the same land owner that has

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the title to the east, the large

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agriculture parcel. Um and on the air

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photo, you can see that their yard kind

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of extends and there's fenced to the

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back. Um so there's kind of following

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the angle of their existing yard and

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such there and the land outside the

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cultivated land. Um and then there's a

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slight adjustment between the two egg

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pieces um based on the canal and that

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sort of thing. So um it is a a land swap

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and configuration occurring between all

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of them. Um just as you can see there

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where the former and the blue line the

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canal was just how in the end the new

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black line showed the parcel lines there

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just to try to clean that up and

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straighten it out in the end with that

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disposal um of the SMD canal them no

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longer needing it. So um

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so with this application um there um

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there was no um provincial interests uh

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historical resources that type of thing,

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environmental stuff that are affected by

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it. Um the application is in close

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proximity to Highway 4, although um

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transportation doesn't require anything

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and there's no concerns with it. Um the

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uh the parcels themselves um with the

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realignment is that there will be no

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additional titles created in the end. Um

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they start with four titles in the end

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there's still four. It's just different

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sizes a little bit between the two with

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that uh kind of land swap and

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configuration going on. Uh so this does

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align with the county subdivision

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policies for realignment reconfiguration

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of titles. There's no additional titles

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created. Um there's no objections or

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concerns received um since the

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application came out. Um we've now heard

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back um from the utility companies

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additional that didn't respond previous.

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Um there was no easements required. Um

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so on that basis um there's a

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recommendation of approval in front of

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you and that'd be based on the four

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conditions of the taxes being paid. If

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the county requires a development

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agreement that they enter into that with

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the county. Um the third condition is

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the survey final survey. It needs to be

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done based on the approval on that

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reconfiguration and the fourth just had

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talked about any easements there. Um it

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doesn't look like any required but um it

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does align with your reconfiguration

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policy. So the recommendation is to

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approve it.

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» Thank you Steve. I'd open up to council.

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» Thank you Mr. Chair. well complicated in

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the paperwork side of things. It looks

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like it's been well laid out. And um

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with that, I would like to move the

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recommendation that subdivision

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application 2026-077

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be approved subject to the conditions as

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outlined in the draft resolution.

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Thank you, Eric. Eric's move the

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recommendation that subdivision

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application 2026-077

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be approved subject to the conditions

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outlined in the draft resolution. Is

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there any further questions or

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discussion?

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Seeing none, I will call the question.

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Those in favor? Opposed? That is

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carried.

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» Uh, third subdivision for today.

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Subdivision application 2026-085.

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Kaylin,

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» Thank you. Um, so subdivision

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application 2026-085.

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It's within a portion of northeast

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quarter 11821 west of the 4th.

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Here is the map. So it is located um one

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mile west of Highway 4 and a half a mile

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east of the city of Lethbridge. Uh the

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proposal before you is to subdivide a

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6.83 83 acre title from the existing 79

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acres and this falls under the legacy

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yard country residential use under our

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land use bylaw. And with that, I'll pass

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on to Steve for recommendations.

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» So, this application is I guess your uh

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second at the county here since the

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policy went in on the legacy yard site.

404
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,880
Um this application was made on that

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basis. The uh parent title itself has

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existed since 1952.

407
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Um, the property has been in the same

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family for multiple generations. Um,

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there's still the older home that was

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built in 1950s on the property. Um, and

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then there's a second newer home on the

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west side of the parcel that was built

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around 1996.

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Um, that uh is on the west side. Um, so

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the application, as you can see there,

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they're taking the yard out of the

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northeast corner along the road. Uh,

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there's a 72.65 acre residual. Um there

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is an abandoned gas well on this

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property, but it's located um to the

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southwest on the agricultural portion

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and the existing yard and the

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subdivision coming out um meets the

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setback distances uh to that abandoned

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gas well. So there's no uh concerns with

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that. Um the application is in the IDP

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area um with the um city of Lethbridge

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um with the legacy yard site policy

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being put in and the or the city was

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circulated at that time. Um this

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application conforms to the county's

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bylaw subdivision criteria and on that

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basis uh the city of Lethbridge uh has

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no concerns and did not object to the

435
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application. Um as well it is within the

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referral distance of AT and AT also has

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no concerns uh since uh their

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infrastructure roads aren't being

439
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impacted by it and they take access off

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that uh local county road.

441
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Um so this application um does meet the

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legacy yard site um criteria it would

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appear. Um you as council have to be

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satisfied with that. Um but it does

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appear the yards has existed for at

446
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least 50 years or more and um the um

447
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it's been in the same family.

448
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So the recommendation in front of you uh

449
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is to approve the application. Um on

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this application there would be the

451
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applicability of a municipal reserve

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payment to the county. Um that market

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value did come in at 55,116

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per acre for the municipal reserve

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payment on that 6.83 83 acre yard

456
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portion only. Um it's not applicable on

457
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the other agricultural residual piece.

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Um so with the payment of municipal

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reserve um the other four conditions

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there with the taxes development

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agreement uh the final survey plan um

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and then the fourth referred to the

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utility easements um we've since heard

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back by from ATCO and foris and um they

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don't require anything at this point.

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Um, so with that, the recommendation is

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um to approve

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um the application as applied for.

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» Thank you, Steve. I'd open up to

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council.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, just one

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quick, how many dollars an acre did you

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say it was valued at?

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» It came in at 55,116

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per acre.

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» Okay. With that, I would move uh

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subdivision application 2026-085

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with the four conditions. Thank you,

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Lauren. Lauren has move the

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recommendation that subdivision

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application 2026-085

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be approved sub conditions for the

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reasons outlined in the draft

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resolution. Is there any further

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discussion? Go ahead.

486
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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. not so much

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question or whatever, but just a

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statement on it that I think the the

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land assessment is plenty high on it uh

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due to location and existing land around

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it. Thank you.

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Anything else?

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I'll call the question. Those in favor?

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Opposed? That carries.

495
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Our fourth subdivision application 2026-

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0-086.

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Okay. Thank you, council. Um, so

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subdivision application 2026-0-086.

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It's a portion of the southeast corner

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quarter 10 1121 west of the 4th. It is

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located a mile north of the town of

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Picturebutes.

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So, right there. Um, and just west of

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Highway 25. The proposal before you is

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to res-split a title, which is 5.38

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acres into two titles being 2.48 and 2.8

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respectively for country residential

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use. And with that, I'll pass it on to

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Steve for recommendations.

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So, this application in front of you is

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a uh res-split of an existing title, 20

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acres less in size. Um that the county

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has a subdivision policy um

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uh to enable such. Um as you can see

515
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maybe in the photo there, they have a

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developed yard in the north side with a

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uh dwelling on there. They're looking to

518
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subdivide the south portion. Um that

519
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south portion a little bit larger at 2.8

520
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acres. It will include on the west

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perimeter or sorry the east perimeter I

522
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should say um a a panhandle that goes up

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to the north end where the existing h

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access is that goes out to highway 25 um

525
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to provide direct physical access um to

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the uh that south parcel. Um so as part

527
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of the application there will be a

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little uh service road dedication at

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that very northeast corner there a

530
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little uh 20x 20 box um at the access

531
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,240
point there. Um that is a requirement of

532
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:10,000
Alberta transportation. Um they don't

533
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,520
require and won't take service road

534
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,240
along the whole um east perimeter there.

535
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,760
Uh because as you can see the the parcel

536
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,240
pretty much dead ends at the south end.

537
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,279
it runs into the LNID

538
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:26,480
um into uh reservoir land um at the

539
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:28,559
south end there. Uh so there's uh no

540
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,559
need no opportunity for additional

541
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:33,760
subdivision or access at that south end

542
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:36,320
there. Um that this last parcel here is

543
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,720
it would be kind of like uh the uh end

544
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,640
of the uh the street there so to speak.

545
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,960
Um so with the road dedication being

546
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,279
provided, Alberta Transportation has no

547
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,279
objections to the application and has

548
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:53,279
authorized that the county could u

549
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:55,679
proceed to approve it. Um as part of the

550
00:27:53,279 --> 00:28:01,120
referral out um it is just outside the

551
00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:03,039
IDP area with um town of Picture but um

552
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,720
or sorry it is just within the boundary

553
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,440
but it's at the very uh kind of north

554
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,679
perimeter of that IDP. Um this type of

555
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,159
subdivision is allowed in the IDP as a

556
00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:15,360
respplit under the county's policy uh

557
00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:17,520
provided the uh policy is conformed with

558
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,360
um in reviewing this application. There

559
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,760
are a couple confined feeding operations

560
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:26,880
to the west of this. Um it does meet um

561
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:30,000
all the MDS's to the operations on the

562
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,080
west and northwest of it. Um so lying

563
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,480
outside the applicable MDS minimum

564
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,640
distance separation area. Uh so there's

565
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,559
no conflict there.

566
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,960
Um

567
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,559
as part of this application, Aqu gas uh

568
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,640
was the one utility company that does

569
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:49,039
require an easement for a gas line that

570
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,520
runs through there. Um so with that um

571
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:54,240
it does conform to your respplit um

572
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,440
policy. The access um will be dealt with

573
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,760
um through the condition there of

574
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,640
providing that service road that shared

575
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:04,000
approach kind of there at the northeast.

576
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:07,039
Um there was no objections or concerns

577
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,720
received on it. Um so the recommendation

578
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:12,799
is to approve. Um there is also the

579
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,279
applicability of municipal reserve

580
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:17,360
payment on this application on the

581
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:22,760
parent title which would be the 5.3

582
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,760
acres. Um that value came in at 66,037

583
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:29,520
per acre. Um the other conditions be uh

584
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:32,159
the six outline there. taxes paid the

585
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,880
development agreement entered into uh to

586
00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:37,200
address the road and the access um the

587
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,559
soils analysis be undertaken for that

588
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,200
south 2.8 8 8 acre lot. Um their final

589
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:46,559
plan of survey be submitted. Um that the

590
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,399
ACO um and Ford has also requested

591
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:51,279
utility easement be addressed through

592
00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:54,240
condition number five and that that road

593
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:57,039
dedication um has to be um signed off

594
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,799
and approved by Alberta Transportation

595
00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:00,240
um as part of the final endorsement

596
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,799
which is addressed through condition

597
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,399
number six. Um so with those six

598
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:07,440
conditions and the municipal reserve

599
00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:10,000
payment um with those being applied the

600
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,120
recommendation is to approve as applied

601
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,799
for.

602
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,880
» Thank you Steve. Thank you Kayla. I

603
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:16,799
would open it up to council.

604
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,559
» Good job.

605
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:22,480
» Thank you Mr. Chair. Seems like a very

606
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:24,799
straightforward um split of a parcel uh

607
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,960
in an area that is heavily fragmented.

608
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:30,960
Anyway, so I'd like to move that

609
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,799
subdivision application 2026-086

610
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120
be approved subject to the conditions as

611
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:36,559
outlined in the draft resolution. Thank

612
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,000
you, John. John has moved the

613
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:41,679
subdivision application 2026-86

614
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,679
be approved subject to the conditions as

615
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:47,279
outlined in the draft resolution. Is

616
00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:50,320
there any further discussion?

617
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:52,159
Call question. Those in favor?

618
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,919
That is carried.

619
00:30:52,159 --> 00:30:56,320
And our final subdivision application

620
00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:59,880
for today, uh, number five, subdivision

621
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,880
application 2026-087.

622
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,840
Kaylin,

623
00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:07,039
» Thank you, council. So, subdivision

624
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:11,200
application 2026-087.

625
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:15,200
It is within the north half 13821 west

626
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:19,080
of the 4th and southwest quarter 24821

627
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,080
west of the 4th.

628
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,799
So again, it's backlo

629
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,919
immediately east of the city by one mile

630
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:30,080
and it's adjacent to Highway 4. Um the

631
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:32,559
proposal before you today is to

632
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,000
subdivide a fragmented quarter and

633
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:40,240
create a 76 acre agricultural title um

634
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,080
from the current 110 acre um title. And

635
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,919
with that, I will pass it on to Steve

636
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,399
for recommendations.

637
00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:48,559
this one.

638
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:53,760
» Yeah, this application uh the final one

639
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:55,360
here is to um basically um divide the

640
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,799
what's left of the quarter section on

641
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:02,799
the west side of highway 4 and the CPR

642
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:07,360
rail line um into the two agricultural

643
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:10,480
portions. Um the south is the uh

644
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:14,159
cultivated u vacant agricultural land

645
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,760
portion at the 76.57 acres. The north

646
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:19,679
portion will be the remnant of what's

647
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,760
left in that title. Um that will be a

648
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:24,320
title in two parts and currently has to

649
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:28,320
remain that way. Um just the way the

650
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:32,000
canal was done with this title and the

651
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,880
um CPR rail line in Highway 4. Um and

652
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,799
there's a irrigation canal um on the

653
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,240
west side as well. That little northern

654
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:42,320
triangle piece is basically a physical

655
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,080
island. Um it doesn't touch any road at

656
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,559
all. Um so that has to remain with the

657
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,240
portion just south of it. Um so it's

658
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:53,279
what we call a title in two parts. So

659
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,440
it's a legally it is one parcel. Um they

660
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:58,159
do kind of cross that canal to get in

661
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:01,519
there. Uh the canal on the west side. Um

662
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:03,919
but it there's no uh legal physical

663
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:06,320
point where it it touches any public

664
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:08,080
roadway at all. Um and that's the only

665
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,279
way to get in there is by crossing the

666
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:16,240
the canal. Um

667
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:19,760
so this application um it is um an

668
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,480
agricultural uh split. the um it is

669
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:26,320
within the IDP area obviously along uh

670
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:29,600
close to the city there. Um it's just uh

671
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,440
beside Steuart Siding. Um the city has

672
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,760
no objections or concerns to the

673
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,080
proposal um as the applicants have

674
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,039
applied for and for it being an

675
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,600
agricultural subdivision. Um as well

676
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:44,880
Alberta Transportation has uh no

677
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:48,480
concerns um not taking any direct access

678
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:52,960
to Highway 4 there. Um

679
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:55,840
so the with this application um

680
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,760
there was uh during the circulation um

681
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,519
Aqu gas did request um a utility

682
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,080
easement for the south piece there where

683
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:06,399
they have a gas line running through um

684
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:10,560
that's currently unprotected. Um so

685
00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:14,480
other than that um it is um does meet

686
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,480
the policies as a as a fragmented title

687
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,839
um being split into the two agricultural

688
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,639
portions. Um and with that I think the

689
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:24,000
conditions there uh the five outlaid in

690
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:25,280
front of you with the taxes a

691
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,960
development agreement into it if the

692
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,800
county needs it. Um they would uh need a

693
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,240
surveyor sketch just to confirm where

694
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,919
they want to put that property line

695
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,760
which is close to the existing dwelling

696
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:38,320
and yard uh that there's no

697
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,440
encroachments and it is able to meet the

698
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,520
setbacks to the dwelling and such. Um

699
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,480
and that the ACO easement as a fifth

700
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:49,280
condition be applied. Um so with those

701
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:55,399
five conditions um the recommendation is

702
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:55,399
to approve um as applied for.

703
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,599
» Thanks Steve.

704
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,200
» I would open up to councel.

705
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,040
» John.

706
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,880
» Thank you Mr. Chair. When I first saw

707
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,839
this I was trying to figure out why that

708
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,680
that north parcel was

709
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:14,000
sort of to be remained in there and why

710
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,160
it wasn't subdivided out. But now I get

711
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,160
it. there's absolutely no access to it

712
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,200
because of way the way the railroad and

713
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,000
and the canals run. So, I appreciate

714
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,640
that explanation. And um seeing that,

715
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:30,400
I'd like to move that subdivision

716
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,079
application 2026-087

717
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,040
be approved subject to the conditions as

718
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:36,880
outlined in the draft resolution.

719
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,720
Thank you, John. John has moved that

720
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,160
subdivision application 2026-087

721
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,920
be approved subject to the conditions

722
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,359
outlined in the draft resolution. Is

723
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:51,280
there any further discussion from

724
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:53,200
seeing none question

725
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,280
that's carried? Thank you. Thank you.

726
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,280
Thank you.

727
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:24,640
Uh why don't we move in our agenda to

728
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:27,920
item F uh department reports F1.2

729
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:31,240
uh development permit application 26

730
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,240
uh D0134.

731
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,599
» Good morning Jessica. Good morning

732
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,119
everyone council. Um so in front of you

733
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:42,240
here today is development permit

734
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:45,040
application 26-d0134

735
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,920
for Vanderhoff. I'm just going to pull

736
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,440
it up here. So this particular

737
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,160
application

738
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,880
um in front of you is for an addition to

739
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,680
an accessory building uh to operate a

740
00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:01,440
powersports business in Iron Springs.

741
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:04,480
Um, you may recognize it from last year

742
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,640
as we did have I apologize there's no

743
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:11,040
map. Um, we did have an application come

744
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:13,440
in for this exact use um in early 2025.

745
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Um, that application was approved. This

746
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,520
is the same applicant. They are just

747
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:22,079
wishing to enlarge the building by an

748
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:24,880
additional about 500 square ft. Um so

749
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:26,720
the proposed use is located on a parcel

750
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,800
zoned Hamlet direct control for which

751
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:32,400
council is the development authority. Um

752
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,079
so the use of the existing shop as a

753
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,839
power sports business as I mentioned was

754
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:38,960
previously approved by county council on

755
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:41,040
the property. The the actual addition

756
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,280
footprint beyond what was approved last

757
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,400
year is an additional 525 square feet

758
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:50,800
for a total addition uh footprint of

759
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,800
1575 square feet.

760
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:56,400
Um, under the land use bylaw 24-07, the

761
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,119
commercial use is considered suitable by

762
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:03,440
council um is a permitted use under the

763
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:05,920
Hamlet Direct Control District. Um, for

764
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:09,119
we we did receive uh comments back from

765
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,520
Alberta Transportation since um this

766
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,359
report was initially drafted. U they've

767
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,200
come back stating that uh they are

768
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:17,040
exempt from a roadside development

769
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,960
permit. um that is listed as an

770
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,480
informative on the drafted development

771
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,800
permit um before you. Um additionally,

772
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,480
the development permit draft lists that

773
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,160
the previous development permit be

774
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:33,280
rescended and that the applicant is to

775
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,119
submit a grading and drainage plan um

776
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,520
for approval by the county prior to

777
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:39,040
beginning construction. Um at which time

778
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,800
once it's approved, they would have two

779
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,640
years uh to to complete that grading.

780
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Um, for these reasons, the

781
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,960
recommendation here is that development

782
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,320
permit 26-d0134

783
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,320
be approved as drafted. Um, the

784
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,520
alternatives are that county council may

785
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,520
refuse the development permit

786
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,440
application. This would be at your

787
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,599
discretion on the basis that the

788
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,240
addition could be seen as an unsuitable

789
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,680
use and uh the financial impact is that

790
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,599
any future development on the parcel is

791
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,839
subject to a commercial industrial tax

792
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,000
rate. Thank you.

793
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:15,280
» Thank you, Jess. I'd open it up to

794
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,200
council for any questions or discussion.

795
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,680
John,

796
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,839
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. When I look at the

797
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,040
U proposal on the recommendations, we're

798
00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:26,400
saying that um that the proposed

799
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,800
addition increases the previously

800
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,960
approved additional footprint by 525

801
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,560
square ft. But when I go and look down

802
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,440
on the proposed plan,

803
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,440
» This plan,

804
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:43,680
» It's saying a proposed 45 by35 addition.

805
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:45,359
So that would give us an additional

806
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,760
» 1,575

807
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:47,440
square feet,

808
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,400
» Right? Yeah. Okay. So that was just a

809
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,400
typo then. Um,

810
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,160
» No. So what it's saying is that last

811
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,160
year we approved an addition for just

812
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,000
over 1,000 square f feet. The applicant

813
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440
wishes to expand it further. So instead

814
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,320
of the thousand, it will be just over

815
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,240
1500 total.

816
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,599
» I'm less confused now. Okay. Thank you.

817
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,920
I was trying to figure out where the

818
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:06,320
math was not working in my head. So I

819
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,640
appreciate that. Um, thank you. That's

820
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,640
all I had.

821
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:17,520
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, and uh, I I

822
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,280
think it fits within its area and

823
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,520
existing business that's uh, doing well

824
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,079
and has a place in the community. I'd

825
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,680
like to move the recommendation that

826
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:29,920
development permit 26-d0134

827
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,280
be approved as drafted.

828
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,880
» Thank you, Eric. Eric has moved that

829
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,440
development permit 26-D0134

830
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,880
be approved as drafted. Is there any

831
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,920
further discussion?

832
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,880
Call question. Those in favor post. That

833
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,200
is carried.

834
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,240
» Thank you.

835
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,520
» Thank you, Jessica.

836
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:52,160
» Uh why don't we now move up uh one item

837
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,640
uh department reports F1 uh development

838
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,359
and infrastructure F1.1

839
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:01,560
bylaw number 26-016 Leers County

840
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:01,560
subdivision authority bylaw.

841
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Okay. Thanks. So, thank you, council.

842
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:24,800
Bylaw 26-

843
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:26,480
bylaw 26-016.

844
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,839
It is the Lethbridge County Subdivision

845
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,839
Authority bylaw. Um, we discussed it

846
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:33,760
last meeting and only passed first

847
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:36,000
reading and I'm actually here to follow

848
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,240
up on a few questions council did have.

849
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Um, so to start with, I will run through

850
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:43,440
the subdivision authority bylaw and

851
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,880
what's being proposed. Um, so the

852
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,319
municipal government act requires every

853
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,560
municipality to have a subdivision

854
00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:51,839
authority bylaw. Um, Lethbridge County

855
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,160
has relied on bylaw number 1103 since

856
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:56,720
1995, which is dedicated council as a

857
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,800
subdivision authority. Um I think since

858
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:01,359
1995 the Lethbridge County has faced

859
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,280
substantial change in uh planning and

860
00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:05,520
development pressures and we do receive

861
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,240
quite a few applications every year. Um

862
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:11,599
it is reaching 40 applications um

863
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:14,720
annually that are coming before council.

864
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:17,200
Um so just practicality of what our

865
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:19,119
application volumes are today and

866
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,440
differing u planning administration

867
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:24,400
practices and how this authority can be

868
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,800
delegated and really placing routine

869
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,359
decisions before council is how we are

870
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,119
managing it today and um reflecting on

871
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:33,839
modern practices where routine decisions

872
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:36,000
are um delegated to administration.

873
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:39,119
Um so the bylaw proposed before you

874
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:43,359
today if I go to it

875
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,520
it's really meant to identify um a

876
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:48,560
two-tier model. Um basically the

877
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,160
subdivision authority is delegated to

878
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,000
the director of development and

879
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,480
infrastructure where applications are

880
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,160
considered routine. So examples when

881
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:00,160
we're looking at agricultural um

882
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,359
title reconfigurations, the first

883
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,640
parcels out um when a area has already

884
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:07,599
been resoneed for group country

885
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,440
residential by council um subdividing

886
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,800
those out into the two acre appropriate

887
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,079
lot size that complies with area

888
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,079
structure plan. Like those are the

889
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:16,800
examples of very routine applications

890
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:19,760
that we're seeing that the the director

891
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:23,440
would be the authority. Um this bylaw is

892
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,839
indicating that a decision would all

893
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,400
would be rendered by council in very c

894
00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:30,560
certain circumstances. Um so if the

895
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,319
applicant requests that the application

896
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,839
go before council. So this probably

897
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:35,520
would be in a circumstance where

898
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:37,839
administration and the applicant don't

899
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,160
agree maybe we're in a circumstance of a

900
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:42,000
refusal. They may ask for it to be heard

901
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,400
by council before the subdivision

902
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,280
authority makes a decision. The second

903
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,280
is if there is any referring agency. So,

904
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Alberta Transportation, a school board,

905
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,520
if any of those referring agencies

906
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,359
object the application, it would come

907
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,359
before council instead of administration

908
00:43:55,359 --> 00:44:00,240
making the decision.

909
00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:02,960
Um, if there's any variance or waiver in

910
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:05,520
the application, if a statutory plan is

911
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,920
not being applied that council approved,

912
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,520
any circumstance where um a

913
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960
consideration outside the land use

914
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,480
bylaw, that would have to come before

915
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,640
council. So, if you recall, there was

916
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,800
one application today um that we heard

917
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,560
that required a very slight waiver that

918
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,280
would have had to come before council if

919
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,280
this is the bylaw we're considering.

920
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,119
Um if there's any if the director

921
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,880
determines that there's any significant

922
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:28,240
policy, technical, community impacts,

923
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,839
they would have the discretion to bring

924
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,640
it before council instead of them making

925
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:34,480
a decision. Um and then if council

926
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,400
passed any resolution or bylaw that

927
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,720
dedicated subdivisional authority for a

928
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,040
specific area. So, if we look at some

929
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:43,119
specific subdivisions in the county that

930
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,760
in the past we've made decisions about

931
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:47,599
um McDermott SE section 26 where like

932
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,200
we've put very prescriptive land use

933
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,800
policies in place. Those could be

934
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,480
circumstances where council would make

935
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,240
the decision at a long-range planning

936
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
perspective that I want to continue to

937
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,240
be hearing the the subdivisions coming

938
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,000
before us. So, those are the kind of

939
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,839
prescriptive cases where council would

940
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,800
hear the application even though you're

941
00:45:01,839 --> 00:45:07,760
de delegating it to the director.

942
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Um, and so I just want to roll back up.

943
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,160
No, in the council report, I did give

944
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,560
you an outline of application

945
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:18,560
statistics. I pulled applications since

946
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:22,240
2020 um to through 2025 and then 2026

947
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:24,319
year to date. So, we've received 187

948
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:27,040
applications over five years. Those have

949
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:29,280
all came before council. It's averaged

950
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,200
about 31 applications per year, but in

951
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,560
recent years, it's been more like 35 to

952
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,920
40.

953
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:37,920
We have had 16 um year to date. I know

954
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,240
there's currently six applications with

955
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,920
orus um under review. So there is six

956
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:46,400
more coming. Um during this period there

957
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,400
was only three applications refused and

958
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,480
subsequently I only found one

959
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,480
subdivision authority appealed um which

960
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,040
went to Lapert.

961
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Uh 21 of the applications were

962
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,599
considered for waiverss. 18 of those

963
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,200
were approved of the 21.

964
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,880
And in terms of processing time, because

965
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,800
I think this is the biggest impact that

966
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,359
we will see if if authority is

967
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,440
delegated. Um so from an application

968
00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:11,599
being received to deem complete,

969
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,480
currently the county averages about tw

970
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:16,560
12 days. Um the municipal government act

971
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,079
requires that we're doing that within 20

972
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,520
days. Um complete to a decision. So once

973
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:23,359
we deem it complete, we do the

974
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,000
circulations, draft up the decision,

975
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:28,240
schedule it for council, we're at 56

976
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,880
days. Um, so the municipal government

977
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:33,280
act requirement is 60 days. So yes,

978
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,359
we're hitting the target, but I want to

979
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,800
say one in five applications are taking

980
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:40,480
more than 60 days. So about 20% of

981
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,240
applications are exceeding the municipal

982
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,920
government act requirements and we're

983
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:46,720
having to ask the applicant for an

984
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,040
extension to get it before council.

985
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:51,839
Um, from decision to endorsement, the

986
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,760
average is 160 days. This is a really

987
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:55,839
hard one to nail down and it's because

988
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,839
it's a a lot under the control of the

989
00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:59,920
applicant meeting the conditions that

990
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:01,920
are being set. Um so different personal

991
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:04,240
circumstances happen, there's delays,

992
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,400
financial delays, like that is really

993
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:08,480
out of our control, but I just wanted to

994
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,200
give you a ballpark of where we're at.

995
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Um there is applications taking a number

996
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,119
of years to actually get endorsed to

997
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,920
land titles because meeting conditions

998
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,079
is is challenging.

999
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,000
Um, so then I want to talk about the

1000
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:24,480
types of applications. I kind of gave

1001
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,880
you a breakdown the best I could. So

1002
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,119
about 25% of our applications are

1003
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:33,920
agricultural reconfigurations. They're

1004
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:37,680
very routine. 55% are rural egg existing

1005
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:40,640
um farmards or bareland farm farmsteads.

1006
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,880
Routine again. 8% are that group country

1007
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,960
residential where you've already heard a

1008
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,480
previous decision. So you've heard a

1009
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,079
resoning or an area structure plan

1010
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,440
before you and the subdivision is just

1011
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:53,280
that subsequent step. And then 12% is

1012
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960
commercial industrial. Again, usually

1013
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,720
there is a council decision related to

1014
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,319
resoning or area structure plan at some

1015
00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:00,240
point in time. So it has been before

1016
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:02,800
council before.

1017
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,560
Um so I hope that information clarifies

1018
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,920
the questions that we had last meeting,

1019
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,079
but I'm more than happy to answer some

1020
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,079
more questions.

1021
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,040
Any questions?

1022
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:20,079
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, I am opposed

1023
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,720
to this. I believe the council should

1024
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:24,559
remain the subdivision authority and I

1025
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,640
would agree that there are some

1026
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:28,079
exemptions to that. I think we had a

1027
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,960
perfect example today where you

1028
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:34,160
reconfigured the property lines out by

1029
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,559
Steuart siding. Uh both cases were

1030
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,640
fairly simple. I think both of those are

1031
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:41,200
more than adequately handled by

1032
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,599
administration. However, I do feel it's

1033
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:47,520
part of our duty as a municipally

1034
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:49,839
elected counselor to do uh act as a

1035
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,000
subdivision authority.

1036
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:53,920
Ultimately, regardless of whether

1037
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,240
administration is the authority or we

1038
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,720
are, council is still responsible to the

1039
00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:00,480
rateayers. So, we will hear about it one

1040
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:03,040
way or another.

1041
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,480
I think the current process is working

1042
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:09,599
and it's fitting in the MGA timelines

1043
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:12,400
and uh according to all we've heard

1044
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:14,720
before once you take over from Old Man

1045
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,480
River uh you will be able to speed up

1046
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:18,160
the process and should narrow down the

1047
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,800
times.

1048
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,359
So I think uh that it should speed up

1049
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,319
and be more than a more than adequate

1050
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:30,000
time. Thank you.

1051
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:32,720
Thank you, Lauren. John,

1052
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,240
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I would e echo

1053
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:38,079
the statements that councelor Hickeyi

1054
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:40,240
has said. I believe that it is uh

1055
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:42,559
it is our responsibility as a public

1056
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:46,880
facing figures to deal with public

1057
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:50,319
facing decisions like this. Um and you

1058
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,160
know looking at the the load in terms of

1059
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:56,319
the applications that have have been put

1060
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:59,440
in over the years um you know I I don't

1061
00:49:56,319 --> 00:50:01,280
see this as being an extremely

1062
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,520
burdensome process as it is. We're

1063
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,559
meeting the do the timelines within the

1064
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,400
MGA and appreciate that you know at 20%

1065
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:12,400
of the time there may have to be an

1066
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:14,319
extension for one reason or another. Um,

1067
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,480
in in terms of, you know, if we're

1068
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:18,000
looking at the decision to force at 160

1069
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,920
days, well, that really doesn't factor

1070
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,480
into this decision- making process

1071
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,839
whatsoever in my mind because that is

1072
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:29,119
something that is uh related to

1073
00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:31,440
information or or you know, how fast the

1074
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,480
applicant actually gets his stuff

1075
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,040
together and gets put into place. Um, I

1076
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,599
I do agree that things like a simple

1077
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,079
property realignment would be something

1078
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:45,200
that we wouldn't necessarily need to

1079
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:48,160
see. Um, but anything more complicated

1080
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,160
than that, I would still like to be to

1081
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,359
see come in front of council and council

1082
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:55,920
be the ultimate decision.

1083
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:58,400
Thank you, John.

1084
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,839
just maybe for the benefit of of Lauren

1085
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,800
and John that weren't here at the last

1086
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:03,920
meeting. Um I think we anticipated some

1087
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,559
of the comments that you would make

1088
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,559
today and I think that was um part of

1089
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:10,720
the reason why council at the time

1090
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,920
decided to push this to today. So I

1091
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,440
would look around at your fellow

1092
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,760
counselors and just acknowledge the fact

1093
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,040
that I think we did see this being

1094
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,119
something that we felt was something

1095
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,760
that should come to council and for

1096
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:24,960
further discussion with a full albeit

1097
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Kevin not being here today. um group of

1098
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,200
council here. Um I think the

1099
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,480
conversation that we had at the time was

1100
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,800
perhaps different. Um and I guess maybe

1101
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,960
I'll just speak from my perspective. I I

1102
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,480
I guess I see our role differently than

1103
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,280
maybe John and Lauren do in the sense

1104
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:44,400
that um I don't feel that it's council's

1105
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,160
role to necessarily face public facing

1106
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:50,400
issues. I think it's our job as council

1107
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:53,680
to put in good policy, solid policy,

1108
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,160
good bylaws, and then react to those

1109
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,599
living documents in a way that I think

1110
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,720
stewards a better future for the

1111
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:01,440
community. I don't think it's

1112
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:03,760
necessarily our job to be in the mud on

1113
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,160
every single decision.

1114
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,000
I know I I will give this credit, this

1115
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,680
council credit. I think we do a good job

1116
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,800
of of staying the course, but I have

1117
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,040
seen in the past when you have

1118
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,839
counselors talking about doing it for

1119
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,520
their guy or their people, and I think

1120
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:19,200
that's a slippery slope. I think at the

1121
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,200
end of the day, we're elected to

1122
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,119
represent all of the municipality,

1123
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,440
whether they live in our division or

1124
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,440
not. So, I do think there's a bit of a a

1125
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,280
balancing act there. And and I and I do

1126
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,200
think it's opened up interpretation how

1127
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,800
you see your role. I don't think there's

1128
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,760
a right way or a wrong way. I just think

1129
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,839
that maybe we see it differently. Um,

1130
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,240
Kayn, I thought with some of the

1131
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:41,599
comments we had last time, I appreciate

1132
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,400
some of the information you brought back

1133
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:46,960
and and I would again counter both

1134
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,480
Lauren and John and that I think what

1135
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,160
you're saying and what you where you

1136
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,119
have concern I think has been addressed

1137
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,640
within the draft and that, you know,

1138
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:57,440
there there's the opportunity for every

1139
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,200
applicant to come before council. Um, I

1140
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,800
think it takes away some of those maybe

1141
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200
rubber stamp ones, which I would

1142
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,520
suggest, um, by and large every

1143
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:08,319
subdivision application we had today.

1144
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:11,119
Um, and I think as Kayn outlined, one

1145
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:13,359
perhaps. Um, but I still feel that was I

1146
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:17,119
would have felt comfortable with uh with

1147
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:18,640
staff making that call. Um, yeah, I I

1148
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:21,920
guess it just comes down to what you as

1149
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,680
council want. Um, how you see us moving

1150
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,040
forward and evolving and I just think

1151
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,000
this is a further step in that

1152
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:31,760
evolution. Um yeah, those are just my

1153
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:35,680
thoughts. Eric,

1154
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:37,839
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um

1155
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,599
yeah, read it the first time, read it

1156
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:41,200
the second time. Still, uh don't have

1157
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:43,680
any

1158
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,920
solid um

1159
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:49,040
uh yay or nay on it. There's there's

1160
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:51,280
definitely uh apprehensions on to not

1161
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:54,079
current, but future that at some point

1162
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,680
down the road. Um the whatifs are

1163
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:59,680
definitely

1164
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:03,520
dark and lurking on um on things going

1165
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:06,319
not in a positive direction. Uh I I

1166
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:09,040
think I can comfortably draw consensus

1167
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:14,079
that um there's room for improvement and

1168
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:17,119
as council we can we can be part of that

1169
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:20,160
uh to to help some of this out. So, what

1170
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:24,800
I'd like to propose today is that we

1171
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:27,920
proceed with a second reading and um and

1172
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:32,079
then once again uh those that are

1173
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:37,280
opposed um state the

1174
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:38,720
state the the direct concerns and

1175
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,800
see that they're they're not being

1176
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:44,559
addressed. I a bunch of them are being

1177
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,319
addressed I think by by reading it

1178
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:49,520
comprehensively and then there's a few

1179
00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:51,520
that I think could also be looked at a

1180
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,520
little bit further. So that's my

1181
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:58,960
proposal that I'd like to move the

1182
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:02,160
bylaw. Let me pull this up.

1183
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,480
that bylaw 26-016

1184
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,240
being the subdivision authority bylaw be

1185
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:12,240
read for a second time

1186
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:14,960
with the idea that we table the third

1187
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:17,760
and make sure that we have it fully

1188
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,640
fleshed out. Thank you.

1189
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,440
» Thank you, Eric. So, Eric has moved that

1190
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:26,160
by 26-016 being the subdivision

1191
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,640
authority bylaw be read a second time.

1192
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,480
I'd open it again up for any discussion

1193
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,240
or comments. Go Mark.

1194
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,960
» Sorry, just one comment. I don't see

1195
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:37,200
this as a as a threat to the authority

1196
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,760
or the control of council. I see this as

1197
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,599
a compromise. It gives council still we

1198
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,359
have, you know, we still have the final

1199
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:45,839
discretion. If there's an issue,

1200
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:47,680
residents can bring it forward to us and

1201
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:51,119
council can oversee that and and address

1202
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,960
that and adjudicate it. I think it's

1203
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:55,200
moving forward as we've progressed and

1204
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:58,319
as things are changing. Um I this is

1205
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,079
just another piece of of of of the um

1206
00:55:58,319 --> 00:56:03,839
county moving forward and being more

1207
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:06,079
proactive and progressive. Um so I

1208
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:07,839
understand Lauren and John's concern and

1209
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:10,160
uh you know given the history and we've

1210
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:12,079
always done it that way. Um but I think

1211
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,400
moving forward

1212
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:16,480
um you know there's room for for change

1213
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,839
and improvement and I don't see anything

1214
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,160
threatening in here. Um so I I would you

1215
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:27,000
know I'm support I would support it. Um,

1216
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,000
so we can move on to the motion.

1217
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,400
» Yeah, go ahead. Cool.

1218
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:35,839
» I'm not going to speak for or against

1219
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:39,280
it. Just a couple points of clarity. Um,

1220
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:43,040
one thing that we tried to balance in in

1221
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,240
this is a change like this provides I

1222
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,680
mean like was already mentioned the

1223
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:48,319
applicant the right to bring it before

1224
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,960
council anyways. It would also allow for

1225
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:55,200
council to be the appeal.

1226
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:57,599
um board for subdivisions which provides

1227
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,760
a different oversight and one that

1228
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:01,040
provides more contextual awareness of

1229
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,359
the county and some of the land use

1230
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,160
conflicts and the actual bylaws and

1231
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:09,280
policies that are in place. And so we're

1232
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,599
trying to walk that balancing act of

1233
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:15,280
council maintains oversight. The flip

1234
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:16,880
side of that concern for me is I've been

1235
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,440
here three years. I can think of one

1236
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,960
subdivision that council amended and

1237
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,880
maybe there's more, but I can only

1238
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,119
recall one subdivision recommendation

1239
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,599
that was even amended from what was

1240
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:29,200
proposed in three years.

1241
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:30,880
Now,

1242
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,160
at the same time, we get a lot more

1243
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,359
feedback on development permit

1244
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,799
applications and other things that

1245
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:37,119
council doesn't have the full context

1246
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:38,960
on, and it's an information gap because

1247
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,079
you're not in the weeds on those. So,

1248
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,400
it's like, well, what about this and

1249
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:45,839
what about this? But I have yet to see

1250
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,040
something that has been a a gross change

1251
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:48,880
in direction from what's been

1252
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,640
recommended. And so I think for us the

1253
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,640
line that

1254
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,000
the challenge I have I think this

1255
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,240
provides a better customer service and

1256
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,839
maintains council oversight. The

1257
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,760
challenge I have on the other side is

1258
00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:01,760
you're going to have less context on all

1259
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,839
of those things until they come or if

1260
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,240
they come before council. So it is a bit

1261
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:08,559
of a like trust that we can hand that

1262
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,000
off. And so I know Kaylin tried to walk

1263
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,119
this with this bylaw, but if there's

1264
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,960
things you guys want to see differently,

1265
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:16,000
we I'm it cuts both ways. I just wanted

1266
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,599
to put it out there that we're not

1267
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,359
pushing one one way or the other. We're

1268
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:20,640
trying to set the stage for the

1269
00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:24,839
strategic plan and some of the other

1270
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,839
things we've heard from council. So

1271
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:31,760
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um I I appreciate

1272
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,680
uh Reef Campbell's comments about, you

1273
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,000
know, the fact that that this particular

1274
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,400
council has been very good about making

1275
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,799
sure that it, you know, we're the

1276
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,200
perspective that we give isn't about

1277
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:45,920
helping out one of our friends or our

1278
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,760
rate payers. Um, but I also think that,

1279
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,440
you know, we have to take the and that's

1280
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,359
taking the people out of the the

1281
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,440
situation in the sense that it can be a

1282
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:54,720
slippery slope and there are there may

1283
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,920
have been times in the past and there

1284
00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:01,040
may be times in the future where where

1285
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:03,200
that may be an issue, but that also goes

1286
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,960
with the the people in the

1287
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,319
administration that we have right now. I

1288
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,160
have the utmost confidence in in um you

1289
00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:13,040
know our administration and how they

1290
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:15,200
handle things but that may not

1291
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,920
necessarily be the case down the road as

1292
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:20,880
well. So you know I think that that that

1293
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,119
comment can be sort of can work on both

1294
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,599
sides of it. you know, when we're we're

1295
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:29,359
talking about if there's a change in the

1296
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:32,960
individuals, I I still, you know, my

1297
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:35,520
opinion on this is that uh that, you

1298
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,200
know, we're involved in this and we see

1299
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:41,680
this and even though there isn't

1300
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:43,760
necessarily a lot of uh denials or or

1301
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,760
massive changes, we're actually involved

1302
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:50,559
and we know what's happening with it.

1303
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:52,960
And to um to CEO Beck's comment about,

1304
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:56,160
you know, we see more problems with the

1305
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,319
development side. Why I think that is an

1306
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,640
a natural progression of the fact that

1307
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:02,799
that has been delegated away from

1308
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,480
council meaning council isn't aware of

1309
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:06,240
what's happening and when those

1310
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:11,359
complaints come in we're not aware of

1311
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:13,200
it. Um and and you know moving this uh

1312
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:16,160
subdivision authority into

1313
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,760
administration's hands will start to

1314
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,520
garner the same problems that we're

1315
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,160
having with the development permits in

1316
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:25,359
the sense that there's a lack of context

1317
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:30,520
around what's happening with it. So I um

1318
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:30,520
I still can't support this. Thank you.

1319
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,520
» Thank you Mr. Chair. So just the one

1320
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:39,440
thing that you had mentioned, Cole, I I

1321
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,760
would be adamantly opposed no matter how

1322
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:44,400
this turns out to be council being the

1323
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,640
subdivision appeal authority or board

1324
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,599
because it should be an independent

1325
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,119
body. I mean once it gets mixed up, it

1326
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:53,200
gets back to that old thing, oh it's my

1327
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:56,640
neighbor, so I better support it. I

1328
01:00:53,200 --> 01:01:00,640
think it's completely uh an independent

1329
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:01,599
process and it needs to remain that.

1330
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,000
» Go ahead.

1331
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:06,480
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, for myself,

1332
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,960
I just find, um, you know, you get the

1333
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,119
the counselors, we're the the eyes and

1334
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,400
ears out in the community. You you're

1335
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:15,839
out there talking to people, you're

1336
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,200
hearing the concerns, you're um, yeah,

1337
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:19,839
you bring that stuff forward when you

1338
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:23,119
come into uh, you know, dealing with the

1339
01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:25,599
subdivisions and um, it's just not

1340
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:28,240
necessarily will everybody always

1341
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:30,960
contact the office for

1342
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:34,160
information or guidance or whatever. So,

1343
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:38,400
um I still think that it should be held

1344
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:41,359
with the um us the counselors and um

1345
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:44,559
just because we are kind of out in the

1346
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:47,839
in the public there.

1347
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:54,119
Thank you, Tony. Uh so, Eric has moved

1348
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:54,119
uh second reading of bylaw 26-016

1349
01:01:56,079 --> 01:02:01,200
being the subdivision authority bylaw.

1350
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:03,359
Uh second reading. If there is no

1351
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,839
further discussion, I'll call the

1352
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:09,680
question. Those in favor?

1353
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:11,119
Those opposed? That is lost. Thank you,

1354
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,119
Kaylin.

1355
01:02:11,119 --> 01:02:15,280
» So, I just want to inform council I do

1356
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:17,839
have like we do need to amend the

1357
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,520
subdivision authority bylaw um just with

1358
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:21,359
us leaving Man River Regional Service

1359
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:25,119
Commission. So, I do have an amended

1360
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:27,200
version um and that simply remains

1361
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:29,040
subdivision authority with council and

1362
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,520
the only thing that is delegated is the

1363
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,040
subdivision extensions which are already

1364
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,200
delegated to Old Man River regional

1365
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,440
service commission. So, it's rather

1366
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,040
allowing subdivision extensions to only

1367
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,799
be dealt with administration which is

1368
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,000
the status quo. So, I do have that

1369
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:45,440
bylaw. I can um it can be discussed

1370
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,599
today or I can bring it forward at the

1371
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,440
next meeting. Yeah, perhaps just given

1372
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:50,640
the time um if we could bring that

1373
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,200
forward that'd be wonderful.

1374
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,359
» Thank you.

1375
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,359
» Thank you.

1376
01:02:55,359 --> 01:03:00,720
» Thank you.

1377
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,599
Uh it is past 10:00.

1378
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:06,319
So why don't we move in our agenda to

1379
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:09,280
item E, our public hearings. If we could

1380
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:11,599
recess the public portion of our meeting

1381
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,599
and move towards our public hearing

1382
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:16,960
number one, uh 2610. Uh we are here

1383
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:19,839
today to hold the public hearing for

1384
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:22,240
bylaw 26-010 amendment to the land use

1385
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:24,480
bylaw to redesate a portion of plan

1386
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:27,680
0815575

1387
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:30,319
block 1 lot 212026

1388
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:33,039
range road 223 within the southwest

1389
01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:34,799
151123 west the 4th from rural

1390
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:36,960
agriculture to business light

1391
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:40,559
industrial. I would entertain a motion

1392
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,640
to open the public hearing. John.

1393
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:47,559
» Thank you Mr. Chair. I move to open the

1394
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,559
public hearing on bylaw 26-010.

1395
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:53,839
Thank you, John. John has moved to open

1396
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:55,520
the public hearing for bylaw 26-010.

1397
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:57,920
Is there any discussion? Call the

1398
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,480
question. Those in favor?

1399
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,839
That is carried. Uh public hearing is

1400
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,200
being held pursuant to the municipal

1401
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:04,400
government act as amended. The public

1402
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,160
hearing is being live streamed via the

1403
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,200
county's YouTube page. Public hearing

1404
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,720
for viol 26-010 is now officially open.

1405
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,200
I'll now ask for a review of the nature

1406
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:16,520
of hearing and an overview of what is

1407
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,520
being proposed.

1408
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,760
» Thank you, council. So, bylaw 26-010 is

1409
01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:32,240
an amendment to our land use bylaw. It

1410
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,559
is to reddesate a portion of plan

1411
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:38,720
0815575,

1412
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:40,319
block 1, lot 2. It is 1126 Range Road

1413
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,960
223.

1414
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:45,200
Um, it is red designated from rule A to

1415
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,000
Business Light Industrial.

1416
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Let's pull up the Oh, I'm on the wrong

1417
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:53,760
application.

1418
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:57,680
There it is. Okay. Um, so the proposal

1419
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:59,520
is um related to a transportation depot

1420
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,760
that is currently operating on the site

1421
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,920
in non-compliance. It was identified

1422
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,160
back in 2025 when the landowner wanted

1423
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,720
to expand their existing property and

1424
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,000
business. Um, we identified that we

1425
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,440
actually needed to work with the town of

1426
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,359
Nobleford on an intermissible

1427
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,480
development plan amendment which was

1428
01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:20,480
passed before council back in 2025.

1429
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:22,640
Um, and one of the next steps was

1430
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,240
requiring the landowner to do a wetland

1431
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,319
assessment prior to applying to a

1432
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,839
resoning. Um so now they've completed

1433
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:30,079
the wetland assessment which you'll see

1434
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:32,079
on the resoning map is specifically that

1435
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,559
eastern boundary which is defining the

1436
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:40,559
resoning area.

1437
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:43,760
Um so the redesation area landed at 43

1438
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:46,240
acres and it is explicitly excluding

1439
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,079
that wetland and the redesation to the

1440
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,599
business light industrial will allow the

1441
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:51,920
existing business to be brought into

1442
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:54,559
compliance as well as accommodate their

1443
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:57,839
proposed building expansion.

1444
01:05:54,559 --> 01:06:00,000
Um so before you today is um

1445
01:05:57,839 --> 01:06:02,240
recommendation to read this bylaw for

1446
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,760
the second and third time and this is on

1447
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,280
the basis that it does align with our

1448
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,119
municipal development plan to support

1449
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,240
industrial and commercial expansion in

1450
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:12,559
areas that are supported through the IDP

1451
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:15,200
and it does accommodate the growth of an

1452
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:16,480
existing operation. And with that any

1453
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,480
questions?

1454
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:21,119
» Thank you Kayn.

1455
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,880
Any questions from council?

1456
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:24,319
This is council soul's opportunity to

1457
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,599
receive input from the public. Those

1458
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,720
making presentations are asked to state

1459
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:27,839
their name and review their points. We

1460
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,119
ask that you refrain from asking

1461
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:30,400
questions to council. The intention of

1462
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,839
the public hearing is not to debate or

1463
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,440
defend the contents of the bylaw or the

1464
01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:35,200
position which individual counselors may

1465
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,720
have on the bylaw. Questions asked of

1466
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,559
the council by presenter may be ruled

1467
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,839
out of order.

1468
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:41,119
Presentation to council will start with

1469
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:42,799
the applicant who has made a submission

1470
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:44,160
followed by any other persons wishing to

1471
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:46,319
comment on the proposal. Please keep

1472
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,599
your comments to the point. After each

1473
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,880
speaker, members of council will be

1474
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:50,640
permitted to ask questions for the

1475
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,920
presenter to clarify any details. No

1476
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,760
debating or questions from the floor

1477
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,200
will be allowed. Each speaker will be

1478
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,280
allotted up to 10 minutes. Additional

1479
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,799
time may be granted at the discretion of

1480
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,880
councel.

1481
01:06:58,799 --> 01:07:04,079
With that, I would ask if the applicant

1482
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:06,160
wishes to speak.

1483
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:09,520
I would then ask if there's anyone else

1484
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,960
wishing to speak to the proposed bylaw.

1485
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,160
And for a third and final time, I would

1486
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:15,039
ask if there's anyone wishing to speak

1487
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,559
to the proposed bylaw.

1488
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:18,400
If there's nothing further, I would

1489
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:20,799
entertain a motion to close the public

1490
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,559
hearing. Eric,

1491
01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:23,200
» Mr. Chair, I move to close the public

1492
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:24,480
hearing.

1493
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:27,039
» Eric has moved to close the public

1494
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,720
hearing for bylaw 26-010.

1495
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:31,440
Is there any further discussion? I'll

1496
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:33,680
call question. Those in favor? Opposed?

1497
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,359
That is carry. Can now resume our public

1498
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,839
meeting. Kaylin, do you have anything

1499
01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:36,960
further?

1500
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:39,680
» No, I don't. Thank you.

1501
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:43,440
» Okay. I would then uh open up to

1502
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:45,280
council. Mark and then John.

1503
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,880
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like to move by

1504
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,039
26-0

1505
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,400
be read a second time.

1506
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:52,319
» Thank you, Mark. Mark has moved that

1507
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,720
bylaw 26-010

1508
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:56,799
be read for a second time. Is there any

1509
01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:01,799
discussion? Call question. Those in

1510
01:07:56,799 --> 01:08:01,799
favor opposed that carries.

1511
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:09,440
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move

1512
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:11,119
that bylaw 26-0 be read a third time.

1513
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,880
Thank you, John. John has moved that by

1514
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:15,280
26-0

1515
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:17,199
be read for a third time. Is there any

1516
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:20,960
discussion? Call the question. Those in

1517
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:22,239
favor? opposed. That is carried. I think

1518
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,239
Kaylin,

1519
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:25,239
» Sorry.

1520
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,080
» Thanks, Mr. Chair. I apologize. I should

1521
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:33,040
have mentioned this before third

1522
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,319
reading, but um I

1523
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,960
wanted to kind of express my

1524
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:40,719
appreciation for our administration and

1525
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:43,520
the the landowner to actually uh you

1526
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:46,080
know, get this into compliance and get

1527
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:49,279
things moving in a direction where it's

1528
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:51,440
uh you know, he's he's acting well

1529
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:55,359
within our bylaws

1530
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:57,759
and becoming a a uh you know, more in

1531
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:59,440
line with uh with our policies. and

1532
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:01,679
procedures rather than just sort of

1533
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:03,759
operating rogue. So, thank you very much

1534
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:06,080
for all the effort put in on both house

1535
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:09,719
on administration and on on the part of

1536
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,719
our uh rateayer.

1537
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:15,600
» Thank you, John. Uh moving down our

1538
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:17,120
second bylaw, bylaw 26-019.

1539
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,679
Uh we are here today for the public

1540
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,440
hearing for bylaw 26-019 amendment to

1541
01:09:19,679 --> 01:09:22,799
the land use bylaw to revise the

1542
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:24,319
definition of specialty

1543
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:27,279
manufacturing/cottage

1544
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:29,600
industry in part 9 definitions. I would

1545
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:32,080
al ask for a

1546
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:35,199
motion to open the public hearing for

1547
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,239
bylaw 26-019.

1548
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:38,000
Mark

1549
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:40,000
» Thank you mr chair I move to open the

1550
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,520
public hearing.

1551
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,759
» Mark move to open the public hearing for

1552
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,520
bylaw 26-019.

1553
01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:48,080
Any further discussion? Call a question.

1554
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:50,159
Those in favor? Opposed? That is

1555
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,359
carried. Uh, this public hearing is

1556
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:53,120
being held pursuant to municipal

1557
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,400
government act as amended. The public

1558
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,320
hearings being live streamed via the

1559
01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:00,159
county's YouTube page. Public hearing

1560
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:01,679
for bylaw 26-019 is now officially open.

1561
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:02,719
Excuse me. I'll now ask for a review of

1562
01:10:01,679 --> 01:10:04,400
the nature of the hearing and an

1563
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:05,199
overview of what is being proposed.

1564
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,760
Kaylin,

1565
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:09,679
» Thank you. So, bylaw 26-019

1566
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,600
is an amendment to the land use bylaw to

1567
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:14,000
revise the definition of specialty

1568
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,560
manufacturing the cottage industry. So,

1569
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:19,199
it's part nine of our bylaw. And this

1570
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,920
application became about from a

1571
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:23,760
Lethbridge County business who who is a

1572
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,520
specialty manufacturing cottage use on

1573
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,159
their parcel. Um, they're currently

1574
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,679
operating on 11.4 acre title and they

1575
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:31,600
have an existing shop and they're

1576
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:33,120
actually unable to expand due to the

1577
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,679
restrictions of the definition in our

1578
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,840
land use bylaw. Um, so our land use

1579
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:39,760
bylaw intends the specialty

1580
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,360
manufacturing cottage industry is

1581
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,360
small-scale on-site production,

1582
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,280
fabrication, and processing of goods.

1583
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,280
And it's really capped at a fixed

1584
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,520
maximum gross area of 10,000 square

1585
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,159
feet. And it doesn't connect to lot size

1586
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:55,840
or any proximity contextual aspects of

1587
01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:57,520
the lot. And because this number 10,000

1588
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,040
square feet is actually within the

1589
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,679
definition, the development authority

1590
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:04,719
has no um authority to wave it or give

1591
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:07,440
any variance. Um so it's very much a

1592
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:09,199
maximum allowed. So we're with working

1593
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:12,400
with the applicant and recognizing our

1594
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:14,480
land use bylaw um review is is

1595
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:17,040
forthcoming. Um we identified an

1596
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:18,640
opportunity to um make a minor amendment

1597
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,360
to our land use bylaw to allow

1598
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,199
businesses like this to expand and it to

1599
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:27,360
be more contextually related to the size

1600
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:28,719
of their lot. Um so this use only

1601
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,800
actually applies to the rural

1602
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:32,239
agricultural zones and rural commercial

1603
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,760
districts. Rural commercial is a

1604
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:36,000
district that is used on like three or

1605
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,920
four part parcels in the county. So very

1606
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:41,600
very little impact. It's mostly rural

1607
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:43,520
agriculture. Um and so basically the

1608
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,080
proposal before you is to amend the

1609
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:48,880
definition to allow for 2,000 square

1610
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:51,280
feet per acre of lot area up to a

1611
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:53,120
maximum of 20,000 square feet. And the

1612
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,719
reason 20,000 was selected as the

1613
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,199
maximum is because we are looking at

1614
01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:59,760
this as a rural agricultural adjacent

1615
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:01,520
use and um potato storage and similar

1616
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:04,159
large agricultural buildings are kind of

1617
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,560
that 20,000 square feet. So it it did

1618
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:08,239
seem um similar in nature without

1619
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,960
becoming the category of commercial

1620
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:13,440
industrial. Um so that's why the numbers

1621
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,920
were proposed and it's just a a minor

1622
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:18,960
amendment. I'll pull up the text. The

1623
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:22,800
red line is right here for everyone. And

1624
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:24,640
really the recommendations um is to

1625
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,800
consider the second and first reading of

1626
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:30,320
this and it does align with our

1627
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:32,719
municipal development plan as we do we

1628
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,400
do recognize that adjustments need to be

1629
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:36,800
made to support economic growth and

1630
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:39,440
rural diversification through strategic

1631
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,560
and sound planning and we do recognize

1632
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:42,960
that there's a wide range of

1633
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,719
agricultural and agricultural related or

1634
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,440
ancillary land uses that should be

1635
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:50,080
considered in our um land use bylaw. So

1636
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:52,960
with that, if there's any questions.

1637
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,400
» Thank you, Kaylin.

1638
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,760
This is council's opportunity to receive

1639
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,960
input from the public. Those making

1640
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,239
presentations are asked to state their

1641
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,440
name or review their points. We ask you

1642
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,560
refrain from asking questions of

1643
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:01,920
council. The intention of the public

1644
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,120
hearing is not to debate or defend the

1645
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,480
contents of the bylaw or the position

1646
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,679
which individual counselor may have on

1647
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:07,520
the bylaw. Questions asked of the

1648
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:09,760
council by presenter may be ruled out of

1649
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,960
order. Presentations to council will

1650
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,400
start with the applicant who made a

1651
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,960
submission followed by any other persons

1652
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,320
wishing to speak.

1653
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,760
After each speaker, members of council

1654
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,679
will be permitted to ask questions. The

1655
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,120
presenter to for any details each

1656
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:22,880
speaker will be allowed up 10 minutes.

1657
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,920
Additional time may be granted at the

1658
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,679
discretion of council. I would now ask

1659
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,640
if there's anyone wishing to speak to

1660
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:32,080
the proposed bylaw.

1661
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,960
I'd ask again if there's anyone wishing

1662
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,480
to speak to the proposed bylaw.

1663
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,760
And for a third and final time, I would

1664
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:40,080
ask there's anyone wishing to speak to

1665
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,520
the proposed bylaw.

1666
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,120
If there's nothing further, I would

1667
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:45,920
entertain a motion to close the public

1668
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,520
hearing. John.

1669
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,320
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that we

1670
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:54,520
close the public hearing for

1671
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,520
bylaw 26-019.

1672
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,280
Thank you, John. John has moved that to

1673
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:02,000
move to close the public hearing for

1674
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,080
bylaw 26-019.

1675
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,800
Is there any further discussion? Call

1676
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:08,960
question. Those in favor? Opposed? That

1677
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,560
is carried. Now resume our public

1678
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,520
meeting. I would open up to council for

1679
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,520
any questions or discussion.

1680
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:23,280
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, having had a

1681
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,679
couple of rateayers that have been

1682
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,239
caught in this particular quandry a few

1683
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:30,640
years ago and had to do a significant

1684
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:32,960
amount of reasoning in order to get the

1685
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,760
buildings put together what they needed.

1686
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,760
I uh very much welcome this change and I

1687
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,640
think that it is a very good common

1688
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:44,239
sense approach with the 2,000 per square

1689
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:47,120
feet per acre that uh allows individuals

1690
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:49,520
to expand as much as they possibly can

1691
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,920
uh within reason on their parcel size.

1692
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,960
So all that being said I would like to

1693
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:57,600
move that bylaw 26-019

1694
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:59,360
be read a second time.

1695
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:02,080
» Thank you John. John has moved that by

1696
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:05,280
26-019 be read for a second time. Is

1697
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:07,280
there any discussion? Go ahead.

1698
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:09,280
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, in your

1699
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,199
commenting, you mentioned that due to a

1700
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,840
hard number in there, there was no

1701
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:15,520
ability for waiverss or variances. Um,

1702
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,280
are we going to have that the same here

1703
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,840
as well that we're going to hit the

1704
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:22,719
20,000 no matter what? We'd have to

1705
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:26,560
amend it. And is there any appetite to

1706
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:28,480
have uh a method of flexibility?

1707
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,800
» Thank you, Councelor Vaness. So I did

1708
01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:34,719
consider different approaches and how we

1709
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:36,480
rectify this issue for rateayers. Um if

1710
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:39,199
we removed it from the definition, yes,

1711
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:40,800
we'd have ability to vary it, but I

1712
01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:42,800
don't think it meets the intent of a

1713
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,120
land use bylaw because rural agriculture

1714
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:47,199
still needs to remain low inensity uses

1715
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,719
and at what size of building are we

1716
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:51,040
hitting the intensity that it should be

1717
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:53,280
considered commercial industrial. Um so

1718
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,360
I think this was an interimm measure to

1719
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,280
address the immediate need of our our

1720
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,960
residents and businesses. Well, we need

1721
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,679
to take a look greater look at our land

1722
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,520
use bylaw of what triggers and is

1723
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:05,360
warranted commercial industrial, what is

1724
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,600
mixed use, and those are conversations

1725
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,480
we need to have over a larger land use

1726
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,000
bylaw um overhaul and renewal. Um so

1727
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,600
that's why the suggested approach was

1728
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,440
just a minor amendment within our

1729
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,880
definitions because really over 20,000

1730
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:19,760
square feet we should be looking at a

1731
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:22,080
commercial industrial use.

1732
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:24,000
» You're welcome.

1733
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:27,600
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, so the

1734
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:31,840
original uh 10,000 square feet, was that

1735
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,600
connected to an acre size before two or

1736
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,800
» Thank you, Councelor Ankerman. Um, so

1737
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:39,120
no, it was purely this use is limited to

1738
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,360
10,000 square feet. Um, so you could

1739
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:43,920
have a rural egg title that was 4 acres

1740
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:46,320
and technically be allowed 10,000 square

1741
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,360
feet. Um it is a discretionary use. So

1742
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,600
of course the development authority

1743
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:52,560
would use their their discretion but it

1744
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,960
wasn't not it tied to lot size proximity

1745
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:57,679
to roads and highways. Um it was just a

1746
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:00,239
blanket statement in the definition.

1747
01:16:57,679 --> 01:17:02,800
» Yeah.

1748
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:04,800
» Thank you Mr. Chair. So just a question

1749
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,840
for cottage industry does and when you

1750
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:10,560
say processing what exactly do you mean

1751
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:13,040
by that? like it when you say processing

1752
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,920
would be a good example like the cheese

1753
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,840
plant but is that a cottage industry?

1754
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,560
» Thank you councelor Hickeyi. So it is

1755
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,800
quite a catchall definition. We do use

1756
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,960
it quite often. You'll see in the

1757
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,600
definition it it includes but not

1758
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,920
limited to so it's everything from

1759
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,920
bakery bakeries specialty food

1760
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,159
manufacturing distilleries micro

1761
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:37,760
breweries wineries um artisan and

1762
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:40,400
craftsmanship um lutheran um

1763
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:42,480
taxiderermis woodworking u furniture

1764
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:46,080
making cabinetry like it is quite a

1765
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:48,159
gamut of things it is often what I see

1766
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:51,199
in development permits being used for

1767
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:54,159
like egg related industries um the

1768
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:55,920
specific One is like

1769
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:58,800
manufacturing, steel manufacturing

1770
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:01,840
related to agricultural buildings. Um,

1771
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:04,880
I've seen it being used for like floral

1772
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:07,840
ups. Um, I've seen it used for

1773
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:10,480
breweries. So, it it's kind of using the

1774
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,840
byproducts of agriculture or

1775
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:14,320
contributing to the agricultural

1776
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,320
industry. It kind of goes back. So, it

1777
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,480
is quite broad.

1778
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,400
» So, you they actually have to process

1779
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:22,239
something like they just can't store

1780
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,560
something. You actually have to. Okay.

1781
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:24,960
Thank you.

1782
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,320
» Yeah.

1783
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:31,679
» Uh John has moved that bylaw 26-019

1784
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,960
be read for a second time.

1785
01:18:31,679 --> 01:18:34,800
» Go ahead.

1786
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,320
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Am I also

1787
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,400
understanding it right now that if

1788
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,400
somebody has a 2acre parcel capped at

1789
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,920
4,000 square feet this time around?

1790
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,520
» You are correct in that, Councelor

1791
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,280
Vaness. And the reason we decided that

1792
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,440
cap was reasonable is because a lot of

1793
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,040
rule egg titles are adjacent to a group

1794
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:51,280
country residential use and their

1795
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:54,000
accessory buildings are maxed at 4,000

1796
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:56,800
square ft. Um so in the circumstances

1797
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:01,080
where they are directly adjacent to GCR

1798
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,080
um that would still seem appropriate.

1799
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:06,239
» Okay. And there and there's no uh

1800
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,000
flexibility on that number either then.

1801
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:11,600
» No, not within the current definition.

1802
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:14,880
And if you are a small rule egg title of

1803
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:17,440
two to four acres, um you're probably

1804
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,880
within the vicinity of an urban area.

1805
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:20,480
You're probably within the vicinity of

1806
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,679
substantial number of acreages. So there

1807
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:26,159
would be a larger um adjacent property

1808
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:28,880
impact um because you're going to have

1809
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:31,920
more fragmentation and more houses. Um

1810
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,760
so I wouldn't feel comfortable with the

1811
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:37,080
recommendation to expand that for those

1812
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,080
smaller parcels.

1813
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:42,640
Thank you.

1814
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,719
» John has moved that bylaw 26-019 be read

1815
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:47,760
Perry second time. Is there any further

1816
01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:49,840
questions? Sorry. Uh is there any

1817
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,960
further uh Yeah, for a third time. Uh is

1818
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,960
there any further discussion or

1819
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,679
questions? I'll call the question. Those

1820
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,199
in favor post that carries. Third

1821
01:19:55,679 --> 01:19:58,960
reading. Lauren,

1822
01:19:57,199 --> 01:20:01,199
» I would move third reading of bylaw

1823
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,800
26-019.

1824
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:06,080
» Thank you, Lauren. Horn is moved by

1825
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:08,159
26-019 be read for a third time. Is

1826
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,560
there any further discussion? Call

1827
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:11,920
question. Those in favor? Those opposed?

1828
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,960
That is carried.

1829
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,679
» Thank you, Kaylin.

1830
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,000
» Thank you.

1831
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:20,080
» That takes us to 10:21. Why don't we

1832
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,080
take a short recess and return at

1833
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:17,760
Uh we'll call the meeting back to order

1834
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:21,679
at 10:38 a.m. this morning. Uh we can

1835
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:24,960
move in our agenda to administration F2

1836
01:37:21,679 --> 01:37:27,360
F2.1 fire investigation inspection

1837
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:30,719
administrative policy. Morning Heath.

1838
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:32,800
Good morning, council. Um, today I'd

1839
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:34,480
like to uh talk to you about the uh fire

1840
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,800
investigation inspection administration

1841
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:39,199
policy. Uh, Lethbridge Countyy's quality

1842
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:41,520
management plan, QM, formerly known as

1843
01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:43,280
the quality management plan, presently

1844
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,960
relies on a Lethbridge County Fire

1845
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,960
investigation inspection guideline to

1846
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:49,520
monitor and govern discretionary fire

1847
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:51,280
investigation and inspection decisions.

1848
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,600
Adopting this policy achieves two

1849
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:55,600
things. It gives fire safety codes

1850
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,840
officer a document defensible standard

1851
01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:00,080
of care that satisfies the county safety

1852
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:02,080
codes act obligations. And it also

1853
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:04,560
protects rateayers by reserving formal

1854
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:07,119
specialist level investigation for fires

1855
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:09,360
that genuinely require it. Fatalities,

1856
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:13,280
injuries, suspected criminal activity or

1857
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:17,920
complex uh incidents. while routine low

1858
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:20,159
complex complex uh uh and vehicle fires

1859
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:22,560
are handled at no additional cost by the

1860
01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:24,560
attending fire officer.

1861
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,480
So just to give you some uh a little bit

1862
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:28,080
more background,

1863
01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:29,600
West Lebridge County holds accreditation

1864
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,280
under the safety codes act through a

1865
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,600
quality management system accepted by

1866
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:35,520
the safety codes council. The director

1867
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:38,080
of emergency services acts as the fire

1868
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:40,960
QMS manager and is the authority having

1869
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:43,520
jurisdiction safety codes officer under

1870
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:45,600
this accredititation. QMS schedule C

1871
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,600
section 4.12.5

1872
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,679
obligates the county to maintain a

1873
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:52,239
defined process for fire investigations

1874
01:38:49,679 --> 01:38:55,679
and governs fire inspections. Currently,

1875
01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:57,840
this obligation exists at the QMS level,

1876
01:38:55,679 --> 01:38:59,520
but has not been operationalized into

1877
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,199
council approved policy and clearly

1878
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:04,400
defines authority triggers for

1879
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:07,280
investigations and limits on contract um

1880
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:09,520
fire chief's actions. Without a form of

1881
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,280
policy, contracted fire service

1882
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:14,000
providers lack clear, consistent

1883
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:16,560
direction on when a formal and costly

1884
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,560
investigation is required versus when a

1885
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,800
routine assessment by an attending fire

1886
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:22,560
officer is sufficient.

1887
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,639
There is inconsistent application of

1888
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,719
investigative resources across the

1889
01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:28,960
county's contracted fire departments,

1890
01:39:26,719 --> 01:39:31,360
creating both compliance risk and

1891
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,440
unpredictable cost exposure. And the

1892
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,040
county is exposed to liability and audit

1893
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:37,840
findings from the safety codes council

1894
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:42,400
for failing to formalize an accredited

1895
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:44,000
process already required under the QM.

1896
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:47,280
So

1897
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:49,360
I I uh as far as the financial impact,

1898
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,280
adoption of the policy is not expected

1899
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,360
to create new co direct cost to the

1900
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:55,760
county. Rather, it formalizes and

1901
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,679
constrains existing practice. It is

1902
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:59,840
expected to reduce or avoid costs

1903
01:39:57,679 --> 01:40:02,719
associated with unnecessary engagement

1904
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:04,639
of an NFPA 1033 qualified investigator

1905
01:40:02,719 --> 01:40:06,560
or external specialist for low

1906
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:09,119
complexity incidents that can be

1907
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:12,239
documented by an intending fire officer

1908
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:14,320
at no additional cost. duplicated fire

1909
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:17,119
investigation of vehicle fires already

1910
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:19,440
covered by insurer retained experts and

1911
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:21,199
potential liability and remedi

1912
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:24,480
remediation costs arising from

1913
01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:28,159
inconistent inconsistent or undocumented

1914
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:30,560
investigation decisions. So with that uh

1915
01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:32,719
council I would like to uh give the

1916
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,920
recommendation that council approve and

1917
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:38,400
adopt policy number 219 fire

1918
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,000
investigation inspection policy as an

1919
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:43,679
integrated component of the county's

1920
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:46,400
quality management plan QV1-4

1921
01:40:43,679 --> 01:40:48,880
or point4.

1922
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:50,719
Any questions?

1923
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:54,199
» Heath, I would open it up to council for

1924
01:40:50,719 --> 01:40:54,199
questions and discussion.

1925
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:59,920
John,

1926
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:03,280
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, Heath, as you

1927
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:05,119
know, with my background, um, I had

1928
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,199
particular interest in this and reading

1929
01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:09,840
through uh, your proposal, I think it's

1930
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:13,119
something that makes sense. you know,

1931
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:15,360
um, in in my world outside of municipal

1932
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:17,679
uh, politics has been many a time where

1933
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,520
I've gone to a a

1934
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:21,920
scene where we've had multiple fire

1935
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:24,880
investigators and it is very an

1936
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:27,040
extraordinarily straightforward uh, and

1937
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,719
easy to determ situation. So, you kind

1938
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:32,480
of wonder where the resources are spent

1939
01:41:28,719 --> 01:41:34,639
and why they're spent on that. So, I u I

1940
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:37,920
I appreciate the common sense uh

1941
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:40,639
approach to this particular policy. And

1942
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:43,600
um all that being said, I would like to

1943
01:41:40,639 --> 01:41:46,320
move that uh council approve and adopt

1944
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:48,960
policy number 219, fire investigation

1945
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,480
inspection policy as an integrated

1946
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:55,360
component of the county's quality

1947
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:56,800
management system QM version 1.4.

1948
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,199
» Thank you, John. John has moved the

1949
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:01,920
recommendation that council approve and

1950
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:04,080
adopt policy number 219 fire

1951
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:06,239
investigation inspection policy as an

1952
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:09,280
integrated component of the county's

1953
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:11,040
quality management system QM version

1954
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,560
1.4.

1955
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,080
Is there any further questions or

1956
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:17,280
discussion? Mark

1957
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:19,440
» Just a quick clarification. So if um

1958
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:21,760
we've contracted out this to the other

1959
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:23,679
departments within the county. So if

1960
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,679
something if there is an investigation

1961
01:42:23,679 --> 01:42:29,840
held or if it's not done properly, does

1962
01:42:25,679 --> 01:42:32,560
that the risk falls back on the county?

1963
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:34,880
» No, it would be under the uh

1964
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:37,760
certification of the fire investigator

1965
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:39,360
or or the fire officer that was in

1966
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,920
instant command on scene.

1967
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:44,560
» Okay.

1968
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:46,639
Any other questions or discussion?

1969
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:49,520
Call the question. Those in favor?

1970
01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:52,480
Opposed? That carries. Thanks, Heath.

1971
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:56,159
Uh, moving down. F22, request for

1972
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:59,159
financial relief.

1973
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:59,159
Okay.

1974
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:11,119
All right. Um, just to give you a

1975
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:12,639
summary, on June 15th, 2024, Lethbridge

1976
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:14,880
County Contracted Fire Services

1977
01:43:12,639 --> 01:43:18,080
responded to a rescue incident at Kho

1978
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:20,400
Lake. Miss Hillary Lee, uh, the

1979
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:22,480
individual rescued, has since received

1980
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:25,360
invoicing for the associated mercy

1981
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:27,760
response cost and has formally requested

1982
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,840
that council consider financial relief

1983
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:32,320
with respect to these charges. Miss

1984
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,239
Lee's request indicates that the

1985
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:36,000
incident was unplanned and unexpected

1986
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:39,040
with no insurance coverage for this type

1987
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:41,679
of rescue. Miss Lee is not disputing the

1988
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:44,000
costs are that are owed, but is

1989
01:43:41,679 --> 01:43:46,639
requesting council's consideration of

1990
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:48,719
relief given the financial hardship and

1991
01:43:46,639 --> 01:43:51,360
full cost invoice would represent and

1992
01:43:48,719 --> 01:43:54,320
has offered to enter into a reasonable

1993
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:56,800
monthly payment arrangement for any uh

1994
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,320
amount ultimately determined to be

1995
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,239
payable.

1996
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:02,639
Um,

1997
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:04,400
just to uh give you some further

1998
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:06,800
background,

1999
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:10,000
Miss Hillary Lee required emergency

2000
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:11,360
rescue assistance at Keyhole Lake. Um,

2001
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,960
Lethbridge Countyy's contract of

2002
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:15,040
emergency response resources attended

2003
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:18,320
and carried out the rescue and sub and

2004
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:20,400
subsequent transport. Uh, following the

2005
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:22,000
response, Miss Lee was invoiced for

2006
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:24,080
associated emergency response costs

2007
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:28,080
under the county standard cost recovery

2008
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:30,000
practice. Miss Lee has submitted uh

2009
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,600
written court correspondence requesting

2010
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,159
council's consideration of financial

2011
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,920
relief. She states that the need for

2012
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:38,480
rescue was entirely unexpected and

2013
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,320
unplanned. She was not advised during

2014
01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:43,119
the response, rescue or transport that

2015
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:45,600
significant personal uh personal charges

2016
01:44:43,119 --> 01:44:48,000
uh could result. The resulting invoice

2017
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:50,639
came as a surprise and represents a

2018
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:52,880
significant financial hardship. No

2019
01:44:50,639 --> 01:44:55,600
insurance coverage is available to her

2020
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:57,280
for this type of rescue and she will be

2021
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,960
uh willing to establish a reasonable

2022
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:01,199
monthly payment arrangement for any

2023
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,960
amount council determines ultimately

2024
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:04,880
payable. Miss Lee has expressed

2025
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:08,080
appreciation for the professionalism and

2026
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:10,320
the responders and is not disputing that

2027
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:12,159
emergency services involve real costs.

2028
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:14,480
Her request is limited to council's

2029
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:16,639
consideration of relief from a full

2030
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:19,040
invoice amount given the specific

2031
01:45:16,639 --> 01:45:21,040
circumstances.

2032
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:23,280
Um,

2033
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,960
as far as financial impact, the

2034
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,280
financial impact to the county depends

2035
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,960
on the option selected by councelor

2036
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:32,320
ranging from a full recovery to the

2037
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:34,880
invoice in emergency costs, option A or

2038
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:37,840
to fully write off the invoice amount to

2039
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:40,880
option C. Uh

2040
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:43,280
what I would like to uh look at as far

2041
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:45,440
as a recommendation

2042
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,960
council receives this report uh this

2043
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:48,480
report from information and provide

2044
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,639
direction to administration regarding

2045
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:52,239
Miss Lee's request for financial relief

2046
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:54,320
including whether to direct

2047
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:58,320
administration to bring forward an

2048
01:45:54,320 --> 01:46:00,639
amendment to fire bylaw number 22-002

2049
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:03,440
establishing a cost recovery cap

2050
01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:06,080
applicable to rare and unusual emergency

2051
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:08,320
events of this nature or otherwise. has

2052
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:11,040
resolved this matter as follows. uphold

2053
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:12,480
the invoice as issued with

2054
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,639
administration to offer a monthly

2055
01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:17,119
payment arrangement or approve a partial

2056
01:46:14,639 --> 01:46:19,920
reduction of the invoiced amount and the

2057
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:22,480
balance uh payable via monthly payment

2058
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:24,159
arrangement or wave the charges in full

2059
01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:26,639
in light of a unique circumstance

2060
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:29,119
presented or direct administration to

2061
01:46:26,639 --> 01:46:31,040
prepare an amendment to fire bylaw

2062
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:33,040
number 22-002

2063
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:35,920
establishing a cap cost recovery of

2064
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:38,960
$1,500 for unusual emergency events.

2065
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:40,719
example, unplanned water ice rescues

2066
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:44,719
where advanced warning of charges was

2067
01:46:40,719 --> 01:46:47,119
not practical. Um, and apply this cap to

2068
01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:51,679
this invoice.

2069
01:46:47,119 --> 01:46:54,000
So, with that, uh, any questions?

2070
01:46:51,679 --> 01:46:55,520
» Keith, I'll open I'll go to Cole first.

2071
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:58,159
Go ahead.

2072
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:00,719
» Thank you, council. I just wanted to add

2073
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:03,679
when we reviewed this because I think

2074
01:47:00,719 --> 01:47:06,960
the letter speaks to a lot of things or

2075
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:10,719
rationale that would apply to any fire

2076
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:13,119
response unplanned unexpected

2077
01:47:10,719 --> 01:47:15,119
where administration believes it

2078
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:18,480
diverges is I think there's a reasonable

2079
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:21,520
expectation that um people carry

2080
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:24,880
property insurance like fire risk

2081
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:26,480
mitigation um response. I think this

2082
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:29,119
falls outside of that. And so we

2083
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:30,800
struggled with this. We somewhat pulled

2084
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:32,159
the $1,500

2085
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,520
out of the air where it's, hey, there's

2086
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:37,040
some accountability and there's a

2087
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:38,639
discretionary component to that, but

2088
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,960
this is one of those ones that not only

2089
01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:43,199
is it the potentially the worst day of

2090
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,400
somebody's life. It is also not a

2091
01:47:43,199 --> 01:47:46,159
reasonable expectation that they would

2092
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:48,239
have insurance for this type of a

2093
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:50,639
response. We don't do an excessive

2094
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:53,199
amount of them and we struggled to come

2095
01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:56,560
up with what that exact structure should

2096
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:59,440
be. There's been some very very tragic

2097
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:02,639
responses in the province recently.

2098
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:05,840
Um, and on the worst day of somebody's

2099
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:07,840
life, I'm the last thing I want to do is

2100
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:10,800
deliver an invoice to them for something

2101
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:12,159
like that that there could have been no

2102
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,920
reasonable expectation that they could

2103
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:16,239
have mitigated the financial

2104
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,920
implications. So, um, I don't think

2105
01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:19,520
there's a perfect solution. we've put

2106
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,199
what we've come up with in front of

2107
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,880
council, but I wanted to be very

2108
01:48:21,199 --> 01:48:24,480
transparent in how we work through this

2109
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,800
and

2110
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:29,800
trying to deduce um a reasonable

2111
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,800
recommendation.

2112
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:33,639
» Thank you.

2113
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,239
» Um

2114
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,960
something that's missing on this is how

2115
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:42,960
much was the bill we sent?

2116
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:45,360
» Total bill, I don't have the exact

2117
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:48,360
number, but it's around uh I believe

2118
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,360
$11,000.

2119
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,679
follow up on that.

2120
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:56,560
» Sorry. Um,

2121
01:48:53,679 --> 01:49:00,400
you know, when we first put in the u the

2122
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:03,920
bylaw for for emergency services and my

2123
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:05,920
thought process in my head was around uh

2124
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:08,719
you know, fire and emergency responses

2125
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:12,239
associated with that. uh because that is

2126
01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:15,600
something that as a homeowner or vehicle

2127
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:18,320
owner there you have the ability to

2128
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:22,560
actually purchase insurance. And so the

2129
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:26,239
the whole premise behind um that was

2130
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:28,400
there was an insurable avenue and or an

2131
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:30,639
area where there's another avenue for

2132
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:33,119
payment. So

2133
01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:35,199
I felt at the time that it was unfair

2134
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:38,000
for the municipality to take the fire

2135
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:41,199
services charges of an individual when

2136
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:43,600
there is an avenue where where a

2137
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:45,440
reasonably prudent individual could

2138
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:48,400
purchase insurance to indemnify

2139
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:50,800
themselves for that. So that's it's it's

2140
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:53,760
not fair to put that burden on on all of

2141
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:56,159
the rateayers specifically. in

2142
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:59,360
circumstances like this there there just

2143
01:49:56,159 --> 01:50:02,239
truly is no insurance that anybody could

2144
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:05,360
buy for this. So

2145
01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:09,920
um this circumstances like this would

2146
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:12,560
fall outside of u

2147
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:14,719
my mindset in intention when we were

2148
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:17,760
having the initial discussion I think

2149
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:22,480
now five years ago about deferring uh

2150
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:24,960
costs on to individuals because uh as I

2151
01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:27,360
said there's just no possible way that

2152
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:31,360
anybody could or should be expected to

2153
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:35,760
purchase insurance for this. So, um, you

2154
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:39,600
know, as in terms of of options, uh, A,

2155
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:42,880
B, C, or D, I'm not sure where I would

2156
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:44,159
fall on that. Um,

2157
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,320
you know, in this particular

2158
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:48,400
circumstance like amending the bylaw, I

2159
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:51,840
think that's a separate issue from this

2160
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:54,960
particular conversation. Um, I think the

2161
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:57,520
the bigger conversation has to be around

2162
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:59,440
what do we do in the future on this, but

2163
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:01,199
but the conversation in front of us

2164
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:04,239
right now is what do we do in this

2165
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:06,239
particular circumstance? And I'm not

2166
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:09,239
100% certain where I want to land on

2167
01:51:06,239 --> 01:51:09,239
that.

2168
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:14,080
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, yeah, this was

2169
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:16,560
another one that, uh, you know, I read

2170
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:18,159
through several times and, um, you know,

2171
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:20,239
I sympathize. I feel bad for the young

2172
01:51:18,159 --> 01:51:22,560
lady. She's, you know, she made a

2173
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:24,320
mistake. I think she owns it. Um

2174
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:26,719
throwing $11,000 bill at her. I don't

2175
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:29,280
think it's the right thing. Um I think

2176
01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:31,440
that um there should be something. So

2177
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:34,000
the 15 the the option D that you've

2178
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:35,520
given there is to put a $1,500 cap.

2179
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,360
That's something that's affordable, be a

2180
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,880
life lesson for that, but it's still

2181
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,880
there's something. It's not that we're

2182
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:44,639
we set a precedent by waving the entire

2183
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:46,320
fee. So um I think move you know based

2184
01:51:44,639 --> 01:51:48,080
on your recommendation your report here

2185
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,840
I I would you know I could certainly

2186
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:54,679
support that recommendation D is an

2187
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:54,679
option just moving forward. So

2188
01:51:55,440 --> 01:52:02,000
» Thank you Mr. Chair. Um,

2189
01:51:58,480 --> 01:52:04,719
was there a part of this that uh uh a

2190
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:06,960
significant bill came from uh the water

2191
01:52:04,719 --> 01:52:08,560
rescue portion and was there a portion

2192
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:10,560
that

2193
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:14,880
potentially Lethbridge County didn't

2194
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:16,880
have um contracts in place or or things

2195
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,480
in place that uh we could have had in

2196
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,960
place or maybe even should have had in

2197
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:21,119
place.

2198
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:23,360
» Right. Councelor Venison, thank you for

2199
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:25,520
the question. Uh yes, there was water

2200
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:27,760
rescue efforts and there was costs

2201
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:29,040
associated with it. I have been in

2202
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,320
consultation with the city of

2203
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:33,440
Lethbridge, Lethbridge Fire and

2204
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:36,800
Emergency Services as far as um would

2205
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:39,760
they be willing to work with this uh the

2206
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:42,320
the billing process and and uh they are

2207
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:44,800
willing and I have a verbal agreement at

2208
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:46,960
this point with uh Deputy Chief Chris

2209
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,880
Maris and uh we are going to move

2210
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:51,119
forward with that and he has promised me

2211
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:55,599
that he will they will look at some type

2212
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:56,719
of relief if not all of it.

2213
01:52:55,599 --> 01:52:58,239
» Thank you, Mr. chairman through the

2214
01:52:56,719 --> 01:53:00,159
chair to councelor Van Essen. I would

2215
01:52:58,239 --> 01:53:02,880
just add that even with our agreements,

2216
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:05,199
we are we are liable to pay the the

2217
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:07,280
response rates either negotiated rates

2218
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:09,599
and they vary. City of Lethbridge has

2219
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:11,840
their own schedule of fee bylaw and then

2220
01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:14,639
north of the river we pay at or we pay

2221
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:16,080
the Albert transportation rates and we

2222
01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:20,639
have a different agreement with Coldale.

2223
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:24,560
So there would be a cost impact to our

2224
01:53:20,639 --> 01:53:26,960
um to our rateayers by changing this.

2225
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:29,360
Um, I know Haley is just pulling the

2226
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:31,040
actual cost of this response and then

2227
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,639
maybe if I could ask Keith to speak to

2228
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,320
the number of these types of calls we

2229
01:53:32,639 --> 01:53:36,480
see on average a year. I know we had

2230
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:38,159
discussed that and it was fairly small

2231
01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:41,639
but there is a financial implication to

2232
01:53:38,159 --> 01:53:41,639
making this change.

2233
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,239
» Go ahead.

2234
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,800
» Uh, based on the details that I just see

2235
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:48,800
on the invoice, um, the total bill was

2236
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:52,239
$9,182.50

2237
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:55,040
50 cents that was build between various

2238
01:53:52,239 --> 01:53:57,920
stations and various municipalities um

2239
01:53:55,040 --> 01:54:01,719
including the city of Lethbridge. Uh the

2240
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,719
bill is now $12,855.50

2241
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:08,480
because we she continues to incur uh

2242
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,599
finance charges because she has not made

2243
01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:14,239
any payments to the outstanding invoice.

2244
01:54:11,599 --> 01:54:17,400
Um so that just gives you a little bit

2245
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:17,400
more context

2246
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:23,760
» And to answer the question as far as

2247
01:54:19,679 --> 01:54:26,639
occurrence it's very rare um that these

2248
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:28,480
you know they do come up in sometimes

2249
01:54:26,639 --> 01:54:30,960
you'll get one or two a year but then

2250
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:33,840
you might not get one for five years.

2251
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:36,639
So, these are unique circumstances and

2252
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:40,080
being a a first responder myself in my

2253
01:54:36,639 --> 01:54:41,679
past, I I can definitely say that these

2254
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:43,760
are rare occurrences and they don't

2255
01:54:41,679 --> 01:54:46,239
happen that much, but when they do,

2256
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:48,000
they're life impacting and and now this

2257
01:54:46,239 --> 01:54:50,880
is financially impacting for her as

2258
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:55,080
well.

2259
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:55,080
» Any other comments or questions?

2260
01:54:55,199 --> 01:55:00,320
» Go ahead.

2261
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:02,080
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I guess we I

2262
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:05,360
feel we should put a a proposal out

2263
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:07,440
there one way or other. Um, we've often

2264
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:09,599
discussed at length, you know,

2265
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:11,280
reductions and the things against it

2266
01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:12,639
that's been talked about at length. So,

2267
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:15,679
I'm just going to put a proposal out

2268
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:19,800
there. Um, half of original bill on

2269
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:19,800
terms is my proposal.

2270
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:30,400
So, as I'm sitting here contemplating

2271
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:33,920
this whole circumstance, I come back to,

2272
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:36,080
you know, the original intent of us

2273
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:40,080
passing the bylaw about putting

2274
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:41,599
emergency services on to onto uh

2275
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:45,520
individuals.

2276
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:49,599
was the and the intent behind that was

2277
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:52,639
to mitigate costs for the for the county

2278
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:54,880
and for our rate payers for

2279
01:55:52,639 --> 01:55:58,000
circumstances where there was the

2280
01:55:54,880 --> 01:56:00,400
potential for the responsible parties to

2281
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:04,719
carry insurance to cover off their

2282
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:08,960
potential liability on this. Um, and

2283
01:56:04,719 --> 01:56:12,480
looking at at that and looking at the

2284
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:16,239
intent of what we originally tried to do

2285
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:18,480
and realizing that, you know, a a rescue

2286
01:56:16,239 --> 01:56:20,239
of this nature and a water rescue or

2287
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:25,440
anything where there is actually human

2288
01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:27,520
life in peril, um, I I'd be more apt to

2289
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:29,920
just,

2290
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:34,560
you know, either wave the charges or put

2291
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:37,440
it down to a very nominal fee. Um, I I

2292
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:40,639
just I really struggle with with us

2293
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:44,880
putting a financial burden on somebody

2294
01:56:40,639 --> 01:56:46,880
for a rescue. Um, and and part of the

2295
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:49,040
reason I struggle with this is that if

2296
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:50,639
you know, we do this and we set a

2297
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,920
precedent on it and we say, "Okay, well,

2298
01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:54,639
you know, we'll give you payments on

2299
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:56,159
that." But then, you know, what happens

2300
01:56:54,639 --> 01:56:58,239
the next time that somebody's trapped

2301
01:56:56,159 --> 01:57:00,080
out on Keyhill Lake and they hear about

2302
01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:01,440
this and they start thinking, "Oh, gee,

2303
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,280
I can't afford it, so I'm not going to

2304
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:07,119
call a rescue." and then we end up with

2305
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:10,719
a body recovery situation. I I really I

2306
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:12,800
I don't think that that passing this

2307
01:57:10,719 --> 01:57:14,639
bill on to this individual meets the

2308
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:18,639
intent of what we originally were trying

2309
01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:21,280
to do. And um and I don't think that

2310
01:57:18,639 --> 01:57:25,199
it's something that us as a municipality

2311
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:27,440
should be looking at at doing just from

2312
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:28,719
moral grounds. To be perfectly honest, I

2313
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,440
think the right thing to do in this

2314
01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:34,159
circumstance is is understand that this

2315
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:37,280
is not an insurable situation. They they

2316
01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:39,520
have no potential of of passing this on

2317
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:41,040
to recovery. Even if they wanted to buy

2318
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,360
insurance for this, it's just not

2319
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:45,520
something that is available. So, I I

2320
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:47,440
think I would be more in favor of just

2321
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:51,440
either full-on waving this or just

2322
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:53,360
having a very nominal charge.

2323
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:57,520
» Maybe a question to council. Is there is

2324
01:57:53,360 --> 01:58:00,800
there an appetite from council to as uh

2325
01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:05,440
option D suggests is there an appetite

2326
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:07,679
to u enact an amendment to establish a

2327
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:09,440
cap moving forward? I know I I maybe

2328
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:11,520
just to separate the two from this

2329
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:14,400
incident to to moving forward. I think

2330
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,920
we could pro we could potentially um

2331
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,679
take a two-pronged approach if that was

2332
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:19,840
council's appetite. Is there an appetite

2333
01:58:17,679 --> 01:58:25,159
from council to look at amending that

2334
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:25,159
and and uh instituting a cap?

2335
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:32,080
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh I I can

2336
01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:33,440
appreciate the attempt on that and I

2337
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:37,119
think that there there will be an

2338
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:38,639
avenue, but I there are two unintended

2339
01:58:37,119 --> 01:58:42,239
consequences. Next thing you know, we

2340
01:58:38,639 --> 01:58:44,800
are we are on for something significant.

2341
01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:45,920
and using John's logic of well they

2342
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,639
could have got insurance or they

2343
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:52,480
couldn't got a couldn't have uh could

2344
01:58:48,639 --> 01:58:57,119
set us up for uh some significant

2345
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:59,520
liability in in these situations. Uh so

2346
01:58:57,119 --> 01:59:04,239
I don't think that is a discerning mark.

2347
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:07,599
Um we all have our our bills uh and

2348
01:59:04,239 --> 01:59:09,440
responsibilities on that. So,

2349
01:59:07,599 --> 01:59:13,280
um,

2350
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:15,679
yes to recovery, but or to a cap, but,

2351
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:19,880
uh, going to be pretty tight guidelines

2352
01:59:15,679 --> 01:59:19,880
if if I were to support it.

2353
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,000
Thoughts?

2354
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:27,520
I I would concur with councelor Vanessin

2355
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,199
that if we were going to put a cap on

2356
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:33,040
that, it would have to be very

2357
01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:35,760
specifically set up for

2358
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:38,800
unique set of circumstances and not just

2359
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:41,520
an unusual circumstance because, you

2360
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:44,239
know, if if there's a potential loophole

2361
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,520
for somebody to come in and say, well,

2362
01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:47,119
you know, I couldn't get insurance

2363
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:50,960
because

2364
01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:54,080
um that that would uh degrade the nature

2365
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:55,920
of the bylaw. So, you know, I would be

2366
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:57,920
I'd be willing to certainly look at an

2367
01:59:55,920 --> 02:00:00,320
amendment to the bylaw, but I think it,

2368
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:02,239
you know, to councelor Vaness's point,

2369
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:07,000
it would have to be very very specific

2370
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:07,000
about what those circumstances would be.

2371
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:11,280
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I I would agree

2372
02:00:08,639 --> 02:00:13,840
with that. I think that getting into the

2373
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:17,599
specific details is going to be a a bit

2374
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:20,080
of a challenge, but uh I I would

2375
02:00:17,599 --> 02:00:22,960
certainly look at that.

2376
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,960
» Thank you.

2377
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:29,040
Just again, Terrina, what I said before,

2378
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:31,599
I would support just prov giving this

2379
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:33,760
young lady an invoice for the $1,500. I

2380
02:00:31,599 --> 02:00:36,480
think 4,500 is too steep. And I think it

2381
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:40,320
was just young girl stupid, you know,

2382
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:41,760
bad choices and uh I just I think it's

2383
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,360
it's the right thing to do. And again,

2384
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,199
tied to the insurance pieces, everybody

2385
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,960
said they're sitting here today. So, but

2386
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:48,880
I think that's that's my would be my

2387
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,960
recommendation is that we just give her

2388
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:54,239
an invoice for $1,500.

2389
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:56,239
» You make that motion.

2390
02:00:54,239 --> 02:00:58,560
» I I can if you want to do that or this

2391
02:00:56,239 --> 02:01:00,000
is you just this this report is just

2392
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,199
being received for information. So, this

2393
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:03,520
is moving forward. You're not

2394
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:04,960
» Well, there's there is two elements to

2395
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:07,520
Okay.

2396
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:09,520
» I'd make it a motion that we if you'd

2397
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:12,960
like that. That's

2398
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:15,440
» And then just uh uh

2399
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:17,440
if uh How would I read that

2400
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:20,080
» And then review the bylaw with and

2401
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:22,239
clarify?

2402
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:23,679
» Would you be comfortable with uh with

2403
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:24,080
item D then Mark?

2404
02:01:23,679 --> 02:01:25,280
» Yeah.

2405
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,040
» Making that as a motion.

2406
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,880
» Yeah. With the amendment that Eric had

2407
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,639
talked about around tightening up that

2408
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:33,119
definition of the emergency what's an

2409
02:01:30,639 --> 02:01:33,599
unusual emergency to make clarify that

2410
02:01:33,119 --> 02:01:34,960
further.

2411
02:01:33,599 --> 02:01:35,760
» So that would come back to council for

2412
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:36,400
approval then.

2413
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:39,400
» Absolutely.

2414
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:39,400
» Okay.

2415
02:01:40,719 --> 02:01:44,480
» Well, I think these are two steps. One

2416
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:46,080
would be amending the bylaw, which is

2417
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,440
something that would have to happen at a

2418
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:49,360
different meeting. But the the other

2419
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:51,280
issue is what do we do with this young

2420
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:53,280
lady at this particular point in time,

2421
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,239
» Right?

2422
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:56,159
» Yep.

2423
02:01:54,239 --> 02:01:58,320
» Yeah. But if we did one, a motion

2424
02:01:56,159 --> 02:02:00,000
covering just

2425
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:02,239
what we would like to do with this lady

2426
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:06,040
would probably clean things up for

2427
02:02:02,239 --> 02:02:06,040
administration, right?

2428
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:10,239
» I'm I'm

2429
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:12,000
I'm just directing traffic. However

2430
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:13,599
you'd like to uh however you'd like to

2431
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,679
proceed. If Mark, if you if you want to

2432
02:02:13,599 --> 02:02:18,800
make that a single motion uh to adjust

2433
02:02:15,679 --> 02:02:20,639
the invoice uh to $1,500. I think that

2434
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:22,560
that would I think that would satisfy

2435
02:02:20,639 --> 02:02:23,920
this for the time being. And then

2436
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:26,080
perhaps we could get a second motion to

2437
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:29,360
direct administration to bring back uh

2438
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:32,320
fire bylaw uh 22-002.

2439
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:35,199
Would that be uh agreeable to staff?

2440
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:36,880
Okay. So then Mark is Mark, I'll let you

2441
02:02:35,199 --> 02:02:39,840
use your words. You you go ahead. How

2442
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:41,440
you like if it Sorry. Go ahead.

2443
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:44,800
So,

2444
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:48,400
I would move that we invoice

2445
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:50,639
the $1,500 for this event.

2446
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:52,880
» Okay. Is there any questions or

2447
02:02:50,639 --> 02:02:54,639
discussion on that motion?

2448
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:57,840
» Go ahead.

2449
02:02:54,639 --> 02:03:01,440
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, definitely

2450
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:05,040
disagree with the $1,500. We the basis

2451
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:07,760
of the 1500 is being prepared on the the

2452
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:10,719
who and not the what and we're trying to

2453
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:13,760
uh look at it as a young unfortunate

2454
02:03:10,719 --> 02:03:16,239
person who made a bad decision and we

2455
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:18,239
are trying to set not only policy but

2456
02:03:16,239 --> 02:03:22,880
also everything has an expense and

2457
02:03:18,239 --> 02:03:25,360
expenses are large. So, um, although it

2458
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:28,800
may be unpopular, I'd like to make an

2459
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:31,199
amendment to your motion to the $4,500.

2460
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:33,840
And if that gets defeated, that's that's

2461
02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:37,679
okay. But I think that it needs to be it

2462
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:39,679
needs to be more and that there um uh

2463
02:03:37,679 --> 02:03:42,560
yeah, you book an ambulance, you get a

2464
02:03:39,679 --> 02:03:44,159
bill, you book anything. And to say

2465
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:46,639
that, well, I'm I'm not going to go to

2466
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:50,159
the hospital. Uh, I just spent time

2467
02:03:46,639 --> 02:03:54,080
where a 15-minute hospital visit was

2468
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:58,159
a,000 bucks. Um, it's a fact of health

2469
02:03:54,080 --> 02:04:01,599
services. And so, anyway, my motion is

2470
02:03:58,159 --> 02:04:02,880
an amendment to yours for $4,500.

2471
02:04:01,599 --> 02:04:04,960
Okay. Thank you, Eric. I'm going to

2472
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:07,599
assume that you don't deem that as a

2473
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:09,520
friendly amendment, Mark. Okay. Uh, so

2474
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:12,000
then we'll deal with the amendment. Eric

2475
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:14,880
has amended to change the $1,500 and

2476
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,159
amend that to $4,500.

2477
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:18,480
So if there is there any further

2478
02:04:16,159 --> 02:04:20,719
discussion on that? Okay, I will call

2479
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:23,040
the question on the proposed amendment

2480
02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:25,599
changing the invoice amount from $1,500

2481
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:27,679
to $4,500.

2482
02:04:25,599 --> 02:04:30,320
Uh any further discussion? I will call

2483
02:04:27,679 --> 02:04:31,840
the question. Those in favor, those

2484
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,599
opposed.

2485
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:37,360
So that is defeated. We will now go back

2486
02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:39,280
to Mark's initial motion to invoice uh

2487
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:41,520
for this incident in the amount of

2488
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:43,520
$1,500.

2489
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:46,080
Is there any further discussion? I'll

2490
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:49,199
call the question. Those in favor?

2491
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:50,960
Those opposed? That then carries. Uh I

2492
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:53,920
would now entertain a motion to direct

2493
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:57,320
administration to bring back fire bylaw

2494
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:57,320
number 220002.

2495
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:03,679
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would uh like to

2496
02:05:00,719 --> 02:05:06,480
move to direct administration to bring

2497
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:08,159
back an amendment to fire bylaw number

2498
02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:13,360
22-002

2499
02:05:08,159 --> 02:05:14,960
to cap recovery costs at uh a specified

2500
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:18,320
amount

2501
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:20,719
for unusual emergency events

2502
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:23,719
um and the events to be very very

2503
02:05:20,719 --> 02:05:23,719
specific.

2504
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:28,239
Okay. Is there any discussion on that

2505
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:31,760
motion to direct administration to bring

2506
02:05:28,239 --> 02:05:34,320
back uh an amendment to fire bylaw

2507
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:36,560
202022-002

2508
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:39,920
uh to establish a cap and type

2509
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:42,920
parameters on the specifics of the

2510
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,920
incidents?

2511
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:48,800
» Just kind of thinking out loud. Thank

2512
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:49,280
you. Uh how would you define those

2513
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:50,880
special

2514
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,320
» Yeah, I think maybe just bringing it

2515
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:54,639
back would probably

2516
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:56,320
» I don't Yeah, fair enough. We don't want

2517
02:05:54,639 --> 02:05:58,239
we don't need to word smith that. Yeah,

2518
02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:59,040
» I understand what you guys are

2519
02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:00,480
» Referring to.

2520
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:01,280
» You you're comfortable with that. Just

2521
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:01,840
to bring that back.

2522
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,400
» Okay.

2523
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:06,480
» So, uh John is direct administration to

2524
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:09,760
uh prepare an amendment to f fire bylaw

2525
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:11,760
number 22-00002.

2526
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:14,239
Any further discussion? I'll call the

2527
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:16,880
question. Those in favor? Those opposed?

2528
02:06:14,239 --> 02:06:17,280
That carries. Thank you.

2529
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:18,719
» Thank you.

2530
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:21,040
» Uh thanks, Eve.

2531
02:06:18,719 --> 02:06:22,880
» Thank you.

2532
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:24,880
Uh we have two pieces of correspondence

2533
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:27,280
before us today. Uh item one from the

2534
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:32,440
National Police Federation.

2535
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:32,440
Uh you can read that at your leisure.

2536
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:37,760
Uh at the bottom you'll see there's a

2537
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:40,960
couple bullet points regarding Alberta

2538
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:42,719
Sheriff's uh cease further investment in

2539
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:45,199
an advancement to the Alberta Sheriff's

2540
02:06:42,719 --> 02:06:47,440
Police Service as a replacement RCMP. uh

2541
02:06:45,199 --> 02:06:50,480
release comprehensive and independent

2542
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:52,000
and public available feasibility studies

2543
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:54,239
and a number of other bullet points

2544
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:57,280
there. Uh like I said, read that at your

2545
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:58,639
leisure. And our second item uh

2546
02:06:57,280 --> 02:07:01,679
correspondence is from the Southern

2547
02:06:58,639 --> 02:07:05,360
Alberta Chinese Association, the 2026

2548
02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:07,360
barbecue, uh August 30th, and it's at

2549
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:10,239
the Rotary Picnic Shelter,

2550
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:13,520
entertainment, food service. Uh and the

2551
02:07:10,239 --> 02:07:16,079
cost is $25 for adults and $15 for

2552
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:18,639
children. letter for are free. If you'd

2553
02:07:16,079 --> 02:07:20,239
like to attend that, I'm sure we can

2554
02:07:18,639 --> 02:07:21,440
arrange.

2555
02:07:20,239 --> 02:07:22,880
Talk to Candace and we'll make that

2556
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:24,480
happen. Widler.

2557
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:26,320
» Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Weren't they

2558
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:29,199
also requesting

2559
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:31,440
uh a sponsorship instead of the city of

2560
02:07:29,199 --> 02:07:35,280
Lethbridge? They wanted us to be the

2561
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:39,960
sponsor for their page. Or did I misread

2562
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:39,960
her email when I got it?

2563
02:07:46,639 --> 02:07:51,599
No. Yeah. In that in that and there is

2564
02:07:49,199 --> 02:07:54,400
there is a second um link there. Candace

2565
02:07:51,599 --> 02:07:55,840
the letter.

2566
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,119
» City of Lethridge sponsored our event

2567
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,880
last year. We are hoping Lethbridge

2568
02:07:57,119 --> 02:08:01,520
County might consider supporting us this

2569
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:03,199
year as well if possible. Uh we would

2570
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:06,199
include the lo countyy's logo on our

2571
02:08:03,199 --> 02:08:06,199
poster.

2572
02:08:08,079 --> 02:08:12,159
I would I would open up to council for

2573
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:17,560
if you would like to

2574
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:17,560
if someone's interested in pursuing that

2575
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:25,800
» Just did it have a figure in it.

2576
02:08:21,280 --> 02:08:25,800
» There is no financial number. No.

2577
02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:32,760
» What is our usual donation policy like?

2578
02:08:38,639 --> 02:08:41,760
couple hundred usually or what would

2579
02:08:40,159 --> 02:08:45,320
they what would I don't know what the

2580
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:45,320
policy would cover.

2581
02:08:46,079 --> 02:08:51,040
» I would move that we make a donation of

2582
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:51,920
$200 towards their request for the

2583
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:55,199
poster.

2584
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:57,599
» Okay. Uh so Lauren has moved to donate

2585
02:08:55,199 --> 02:08:59,199
$200. I'm assuming from the counselor

2586
02:08:57,599 --> 02:09:01,440
discretionary

2587
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:04,320
or from where would you like that to

2588
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:04,320
come from?

2589
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:09,760
Council donation.

2590
02:09:06,079 --> 02:09:10,880
» Okay. From the council donation fund.

2591
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:13,920
» That's okay.

2592
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:16,639
» Yep. Okay. Uh so Lauren has made that

2593
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:18,079
motion. Is there any discussion?

2594
02:09:16,639 --> 02:09:21,440
» Okay. I'll call the question. Those in

2595
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:23,679
favor? Opposed? That carries. Okay.

2596
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:26,800
Thanks, Lauren.

2597
02:09:23,679 --> 02:09:29,280
Uh okay. I think that takes us to the

2598
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:32,000
end of our public meeting for now. We do

2599
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:34,400
have our 11:30 delegations. Uh we do

2600
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:37,040
have a few uh larger items to try and

2601
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:38,400
move through and close. So why don't we

2602
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,840
move into a closed session? I would

2603
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:42,480
entertain a motion to enter a closed

2604
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:45,040
session. Mark Mark has moved to go into

2605
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:46,960
a close session at 11:11 this morning.

2606
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:50,760
Any discussion

2607
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:50,760
called question? Those in favor

2608
03:28:59,600 --> 03:29:02,600
Sound

2609
03:29:12,640 --> 03:29:17,120
good? Okay. Whenever you're ready. Okay.

2610
03:29:15,439 --> 03:29:20,000
We'll call the meeting back to order at

2611
03:29:17,120 --> 03:29:21,760
12:30 this afternoon. Uh we have two

2612
03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:24,399
items remaining for discussion in close

2613
03:29:21,760 --> 03:29:26,479
session. Item three, uh intermunicipal

2614
03:29:24,399 --> 03:29:28,479
matters, ATIa section 26, disclosure

2615
03:29:26,479 --> 03:29:31,600
harmful to intergovernmental relations.

2616
03:29:28,479 --> 03:29:35,279
And item four, uh, CA report ATIA

2617
03:29:31,600 --> 03:29:37,200
sections 19, 20, 28, and 29. So with

2618
03:29:35,279 --> 03:29:39,760
that, I'd entertain a motion to enter a

2619
03:29:37,200 --> 03:29:41,760
close session again. John John is moved

2620
03:29:39,760 --> 03:29:45,200
to go to close session at 12:31 this

2621
03:29:41,760 --> 03:29:48,760
afternoon. Any discussion? I'll call the

2622
03:29:45,200 --> 03:29:48,760
question. in favor.

2623
04:26:57,359 --> 04:27:01,600
out a close session. Uh, we have one

2624
04:26:59,920 --> 04:27:04,239
item.

2625
04:27:01,600 --> 04:27:06,640
Uh, John,

2626
04:27:04,239 --> 04:27:08,319
thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move

2627
04:27:06,640 --> 04:27:10,800
that Lethbridge County support the

2628
04:27:08,319 --> 04:27:13,840
proposed Green Acres Foundation to

2629
04:27:10,800 --> 04:27:15,840
borrow $10 million for the $26 million

2630
04:27:13,840 --> 04:27:19,840
capital project of the affordable

2631
04:27:15,840 --> 04:27:23,199
seniors apartment building at 105

2632
04:27:19,840 --> 04:27:25,439
Kathina Boulevard West Lethbridge

2633
04:27:23,199 --> 04:27:28,800
and that Lethbridge County understands

2634
04:27:25,439 --> 04:27:31,040
that the request for $10 million in

2635
04:27:28,800 --> 04:27:32,960
external financing requires ministerial

2636
04:27:31,040 --> 04:27:34,720
approval and the Lebridge County

2637
04:27:32,960 --> 04:27:36,399
acknowledges that under the Alberta

2638
04:27:34,720 --> 04:27:39,120
Housing Act

2639
04:27:36,399 --> 04:27:41,520
Uh member municipalities continue to be

2640
04:27:39,120 --> 04:27:45,520
requisition to fund operating costs of

2641
04:27:41,520 --> 04:27:47,680
seniors lodging facilities.

2642
04:27:45,520 --> 04:27:49,840
John has made that motion. Is there any

2643
04:27:47,680 --> 04:27:52,080
discussion?

2644
04:27:49,840 --> 04:27:55,120
I'll call the question. Those in favor?

2645
04:27:52,080 --> 04:27:58,880
Opposed? That carries. Anything else

2646
04:27:55,120 --> 04:28:04,040
with our public meeting today?

2647
04:27:58,880 --> 04:28:04,040
» Eric is adjourned at 128.