1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,700 Call to order the city of Lexington City Council meeting. The date is August the 24th, 2026. We have, we usually like to start our meetings with an invocation, and I have asked Councilman Curry to deliver that invocation for us this evening, whenever you are ready, Councilman Curry. 2 00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:21,900 Let us pray. 3 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Most holy and all our God, we come together this afternoon, thanking you for another day. 4 00:00:27,940 --> 00:00:32,240 We pray for wisdom, knowledge, and understanding as we go about this important work. 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,520 We pray, God, it will continue to work together on one accord, doing the work that you have 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,640 placed before us. 7 00:00:38,980 --> 00:00:43,260 We thank you for all blessings that we have this evening and we pray that you will cover 8 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:45,680 each and every person here with your precious blood. 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,980 For is it in your name, we pray, amen. 10 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:48,700 Amen. 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Thank you, Council McGurry. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,060 If you're able, please stand and join us in the legible legions. 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:04,820 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,380 One nation under God and indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 15 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,100 Thank you. Next up, Council, just some housekeeping notes. 16 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:28,300 First of all, as it relates to conflict of interest, please take a moment as I'm sure 17 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:29,820 you have to review the agenda. 18 00:01:30,540 --> 00:01:34,760 Council members are reminded of their duty to avoid conflicts of interest. 19 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,100 Does any member of the council have an actual or potential conflict of interest with respect 20 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:42,220 to any matter on the agenda this evening? 21 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:44,930 Thank you. 22 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:52,430 Also, I wanted to offer to the public that there is a public comment signing sheet here at 23 00:01:52,430 --> 00:01:57,290 the best to the front, all public members, all members of the public wishing to speak 24 00:01:57,290 --> 00:02:03,030 during public comments. So please sign up to speak on the sign-in sheet at the speaker 25 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:05,030 table in council chambers. 26 00:02:08,190 --> 00:02:12,290 And City Clerk, has there been any change at all to the agenda 27 00:02:12,290 --> 00:02:18,590 for this evening or is it as presented to council? Great. Sure, council's had an opportunity 28 00:02:18,590 --> 00:02:23,410 to look over the agenda for this evening and your meeting packet agenda. I need a motion 29 00:02:23,410 --> 00:02:25,170 to adopt the agenda as presented. 30 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:26,550 So moved. 31 00:02:26,850 --> 00:02:27,130 Second. 32 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:28,950 Emotion by Councilman Welburn. 33 00:02:29,330 --> 00:02:30,690 Second by Councilwoman Class. 34 00:02:30,930 --> 00:02:32,190 All those in favor say aye. 35 00:02:32,650 --> 00:02:33,770 Are there any opposed? 36 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:36,070 The agenda is adopted. 37 00:02:36,270 --> 00:02:36,570 Thank you. 38 00:02:36,670 --> 00:02:39,050 Next up is the approval of minutes. 39 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:42,090 And this is, these are the minutes 40 00:02:42,490 --> 00:02:45,170 that were included in your meeting agenda packet 41 00:02:45,170 --> 00:02:50,590 for the regular meeting on August the 10th, 2026. 42 00:02:50,590 --> 00:02:58,180 26 are there any suggested revisions or amendments to the minutes? Seeing and hearing 43 00:02:58,180 --> 00:03:02,060 known the motion then to adopt the regular meeting minutes from August the 44 00:03:02,060 --> 00:03:09,140 10th, 2026. Motion by Councilman Myers, second by Councilwoman Class, all 45 00:03:09,140 --> 00:03:14,780 those in favor say aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? Excellent. Next up council we have 46 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:18,620 presentations, proclamations and recognitions. I did have a couple of guests 47 00:03:18,620 --> 00:03:20,760 that I wanted to recognize this evening. 48 00:03:21,340 --> 00:03:25,280 One is Miss Angela McDuffey, who is the sitting chair 49 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,740 for the Lexin City School Board. 50 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:30,060 Thank you for being here this evening, Miss McDuffey. 51 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:32,580 And then also I noticed Miss Janice Hurley, 52 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:35,800 who is the Executive Director of David's 53 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,820 and Medical Ministries, and also DC Connect. 54 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,700 Thank you for being here this evening, Miss Hurley. 55 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Next up, we have public comment period. 56 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,380 If I could have the sign-in sheet, please. 57 00:03:50,340 --> 00:03:53,620 Anyone wishing to sign in that hasn't signed in yet? 58 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,300 You have a couple of seconds. 59 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:56,460 A few seconds, anyway. 60 00:04:05,890 --> 00:04:06,210 Thank you. 61 00:04:17,260 --> 00:04:20,980 Last name Murray on this sign-in sheet. 62 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,380 Is it last name Murray? 63 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:23,260 Is that correct? 64 00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:24,400 Yes. 65 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:26,460 How do you pronounce your first name? 66 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:28,040 Excellent. 67 00:04:28,900 --> 00:04:32,660 Kevin, please approach the podium, if you would like, 68 00:04:32,660 --> 00:04:34,900 and the Dress Council, we would ask that- 69 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,660 Sorry, I'm on the agenda. 70 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:39,560 I thought that was the sign up for that I apologize. 71 00:04:39,860 --> 00:04:41,000 That's okay, that's all right. 72 00:04:41,260 --> 00:04:43,600 So you don't need to address Council this evening. 73 00:04:43,780 --> 00:04:44,360 For public comments. 74 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Okay, great, thanks. 75 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,460 I also wanted to make members of the public aware 76 00:04:48,820 --> 00:04:51,680 that this evening we also will be having a public hearing. 77 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,100 So there'll be another opportunity to specifically 78 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:57,880 talk about that item on the agenda if you so wish. 79 00:04:58,660 --> 00:04:59,960 And then next up we have 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,020 Ms. Janice Hurley. 81 00:05:04,470 --> 00:05:32,670 Good evening. Good evening. Last week, I made a little faux pas with an email and didn't put lexington.nc. And so therefore, the city utilities did not get it. And so I thought they're ignoring me. How terrible. But rest assured, it was my mistake. And I just want to say how prompt even though I had made an error that our city was in addressing my utility need for a new building that we acquired. 82 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:38,590 And so, I'm just really thankful because that is what I receive every time that I ask 83 00:05:38,590 --> 00:05:43,510 for assistance through the Utility Department and so, I'm very thankful for that and then 84 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:48,070 I had to follow up within a couple of hours and they took care of it right away as well and 85 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:49,050 I appreciate that. 86 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:49,890 Thank you. 87 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:51,010 Thank you, Ms. Hurley. 88 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:57,690 Next item on the agenda is regular business. 89 00:05:58,370 --> 00:06:04,150 This is a, and council, this begins on page 18 of your meeting packet. 90 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:07,550 It's public hearing and conditional zoning for 91 00:06:07,930 --> 00:06:15,910 Hollywood subdivision to consider an amendment to the street cross sections by ordinance 030-2026. 92 00:06:16,170 --> 00:06:21,290 We're going to have a presentation from Mr. Josh Monk from Business and Community Development. 93 00:06:21,810 --> 00:06:24,550 Thank you, Mayor, and good evening, Council. 94 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:31,710 So, this is an application for conditional zoning from KLMland, LLC. 95 00:06:31,710 --> 00:06:34,650 It's for property off of West Hollywood Grove Road. 96 00:06:34,890 --> 00:06:39,710 You might be familiar with this property has come before City Council a few times. 97 00:06:40,570 --> 00:06:45,510 Last year was approved for up to 99 single family homes and following that, it came back 98 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:50,310 to Council to approve the housing designs for that development. 99 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:57,030 Just to give you a little refresher for what this development looks like, the original site 100 00:06:57,030 --> 00:06:59,490 plan is on the left hand side of your screen. 101 00:06:59,490 --> 00:07:03,570 As you can see there's two entrances and exits off a high grove road. 102 00:07:04,370 --> 00:07:10,250 What we're discussing tonight is just basically a change in the street design, not the layout 103 00:07:10,250 --> 00:07:13,930 of the street, but changing from curb and gutter to ditches and swells. 104 00:07:14,530 --> 00:07:19,130 On the right hand side of the screen is the new site plan, and as you can see it's the 105 00:07:19,130 --> 00:07:21,350 same configuration, same number of lots. 106 00:07:21,790 --> 00:07:28,150 Nothing has changed, except for the street cross section, it's going from curb and gutter 107 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:33,410 to ditches and swells. So the reason we're here tonight is during our original 108 00:07:33,410 --> 00:07:38,190 public hearing. There's a specific question raised about the post-street design 109 00:07:38,190 --> 00:07:42,890 and specifically that was this is going to have curb and gutter and it was answered 110 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:48,130 yes and because of that it because reflects in the minutes. This kind of change or 111 00:07:48,130 --> 00:07:52,030 this kind of request to go from curb and gutter to ditches and swells is considered a 112 00:07:52,030 --> 00:07:57,090 major change and requires the same approval process as before. So that's why we're 113 00:07:57,090 --> 00:08:04,610 tonight. The reason for this change is during the design phase following after they had 114 00:08:04,610 --> 00:08:09,370 their civil plans reviewed, they were doing some geotechnical investigations on the site 115 00:08:09,370 --> 00:08:17,850 and reportedly encountered substantial rock because of the amount of rock excavation 116 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:22,870 that was required, it was significantly increased the cost of development and to help reduce 117 00:08:22,870 --> 00:08:26,010 use that call, stay one switched from, again, 118 00:08:26,170 --> 00:08:27,990 curb and gutter to ditches and swells. 119 00:08:28,310 --> 00:08:30,430 This is also allowed for any development 120 00:08:30,430 --> 00:08:32,790 that's considered low density, which this one is. 121 00:08:33,470 --> 00:08:35,570 So it is already allowed. 122 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:37,410 There's already a process in place in our ordinance 123 00:08:37,410 --> 00:08:38,270 to allow this. 124 00:08:38,710 --> 00:08:39,910 But again, the reason we're here tonight 125 00:08:39,910 --> 00:08:41,830 is because of the original public hearing 126 00:08:41,830 --> 00:08:45,250 that was specifically asked and is collected in the minutes 127 00:08:45,250 --> 00:08:45,470 there. 128 00:08:47,620 --> 00:08:49,300 Again, here's the request of changes. 129 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,860 And it just states you want to change from curb and gutter 130 00:08:51,860 --> 00:08:54,400 to a vegetated swells and ditches. 131 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:57,960 They request this because they want the greater flexibility 132 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,800 to reduce construction costs. 133 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,700 Again, this is for on-for-seen field conditions. 134 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,440 And the applicant also states, and this is correct 135 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,060 when it pros development, qualifies its load density 136 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:11,840 and in our zoning ordinance and in the Lexington 137 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,360 infrastructure design standards manual that is allowed. 138 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,000 And here, just as an example, what a three-crawl section is. 139 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:28,480 At the top it shows a 50 foot right away with curb and gutter at the bottom it shows our street 140 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:35,000 crawl section for anything with ditches or swells and that's a 63 foot wide crawl section 141 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,840 and you still have a sidewalk on there, you still have your street trees, your utilities 142 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:49,040 will be in between, it just requires a greater right away and the property itself allows for 143 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,820 that type of a width in there. 144 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,920 And then for any kind of changes, all of the conditions 145 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,960 are going to remain... 146 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:29,980 The same that were approved. There are a few small changes, though. So, for example, in one of the conditions, it will be amended to allow ditch-type local residential streets that's classified in our lids manual, which shown here. Another condition would require that the homeowners association include a provision of prohibits on street parking for any development that has ditches and swells on street parking is not allowed. And then we would also add a condition requiring the dedication of a green 147 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:33,760 Greenway easement along Abbott's Creek, just because our Greenway plan is adopted by 148 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Council last year, it identifies a greenway throughout that section. 149 00:10:39,870 --> 00:10:41,330 And we do have the applicant here tonight. 150 00:10:41,510 --> 00:10:47,230 We also have our engineer, Kevin Murray, is the developer and Brent Newsome is the engineer 151 00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:47,930 from the Gattoms. 152 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:51,510 I'm going to invite them off if they want to speak a little bit about this development, then 153 00:10:51,510 --> 00:10:52,310 we can have some questions. 154 00:10:55,860 --> 00:10:55,980 Hello. 155 00:10:56,140 --> 00:10:56,800 Thank you for your time. 156 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,380 I'm a first time developer, so hope to get it in fewer than three meetings next time. 157 00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:06,120 I was thinking earlier that when I first started working this my daughter hadn't started 158 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,820 kindergarten in the day was her first day of second grade so hopefully won't be back 159 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,360 here for third grade on the same one. 160 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:18,420 You know, we wouldn't be back here if we had another way to engineer a way out of this. 161 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:20,080 We looked at a lot of different options. 162 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:22,580 The site has some meaningful challenges. 163 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:27,500 We did one geotechnical study, uncovered some rock as we got further into the process. 164 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:31,940 We did a second one and found it was more serious and more concentrated than we had 165 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:35,800 imagined. We looked at a lot of different options to try and solve it and 166 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,820 ding through the UDO and the LIDS. This is where we landed. So we are here, again, 167 00:11:40,980 --> 00:11:47,020 to ask to please move from Kirby gutter to open swollen ditches to unlock this 168 00:11:47,020 --> 00:11:51,680 project. And I can't speak to the technical stuff but I got Brent who's done a lot 169 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:59,700 more of these in terms of the width of the street, the paving of the street. What's 170 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:06,520 the, what's the current distance. So the council accepts this condition. So for the width for 171 00:12:07,940 --> 00:12:14,060 originally that was approved is 24 feet of asphalt and then you have 18 inches east side for 172 00:12:14,060 --> 00:12:20,640 the carbon gutter. This one is still 24 inches or 24 feet of paved street. You just don't have 173 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:26,160 that 18 inches of carbon gutter on the side and that's one reason we don't allow for on street parking. 174 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:32,120 the carpool is off, it could be a substantial drop, it's stuck in mud, it's just something 175 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:32,600 we don't allow. 176 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:35,940 So that's a condition that's being added in, is that correct? 177 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,560 That is correct. 178 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:36,960 Thank you. 179 00:12:38,020 --> 00:12:41,400 Councillor, are there additional questions that you all have? 180 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:45,200 No, not allowing that. 181 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:47,780 Ones free parking is a good sign. 182 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Who would be responsible for maintaining the ditch? 183 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:53,580 Is that the property owner? 184 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:58,300 for the lot or is that H.O.A. because I know you've got the sidewall, and then the 185 00:12:58,300 --> 00:13:01,000 ditch, you know, between, so just curious about that. 186 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:06,520 Right, so typically after a development has been built, where all the infrastructure has 187 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,940 been accepted into the city, any other stormwater infrastructure that is within that right away 188 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:15,180 is typically maintained by the city. 189 00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:20,800 Now we do have it in the ordinance that anybody, any of the property owners must mow their 190 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:27,800 properties and that includes within the right-of-way so I'll be still knowing within the ditches but we would still be responsible for maintaining those ditches as well. 191 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Thank you. 192 00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:32,480 And so from that's a good question, Councillor Wilburn. 193 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:44,440 So changing from a carbon gutter would require then the city to maintain the ditches and swells. Is that going to be increased costs for us as a municipality? 194 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,220 So typically ditches and swells are cheaper to maintain. 195 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:59,820 With curb and gutter, you have to underground infrastructure and that does have to be maintained, it's not like mowing every week during the summertime, but eventually that infrastructure needs to be replaced and that could be very costly. 196 00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:01,640 Great. Thank you. 197 00:14:03,180 --> 00:14:04,520 Additional questions from council? 198 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,820 And the setback on the house, I was trying to look it up from the street to the property. 199 00:14:10,820 --> 00:14:12,100 Does that change? 200 00:14:12,820 --> 00:14:14,380 It will change a little bit. 201 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:20,900 We do require that this setback be measured from the right-of-way line and not the edge of pavement. 202 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:27,280 So it might push the house back, you know, 7-8 feet on each side, something on those lines. 203 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Okay. 204 00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:35,940 And did this conditional, this change in conditions, did this go to planning and zoning or this come directly to council? 205 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:45,940 Yes, this went through planning and zoning, there was some conversation, but it was approved unanimously or recommended unanimously to go to council. 206 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:50,100 This also went to staff TRC meetings, two or three times for discussion. 207 00:14:51,420 --> 00:14:52,060 Great, thank you. 208 00:14:54,420 --> 00:14:58,440 So it looks here that the suggested action is to receive the presentation. 209 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,380 Thank you, Mr. Murray. 210 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,780 We're to receive the presentation and then city council is to hold a public hearing concerning ordinance zero three zero dash 2026 related to amending unified development ordinance zoning map city of Lexington with an amendment to the conditional zoning for holly for the holly group subdivision. Is that correct, Mr. Monk? That is correct, mayor. Excellent. So at this time, the city clerk would recommend we open a public hearing. All right. We now open the public hearing. 211 00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:36,640 Anyone wishing to speak on behalf of the public, please feel free to come to the podium and address Council at this time. 212 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:51,570 Seeing that no one wishes to address Council during this public hearing will now close the public hearing. 213 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:57,550 And then did you want to raise the statement of consistency and reasonableness? 214 00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:58,650 This is a council. 215 00:15:58,770 --> 00:16:04,550 This is the statement of consistency and reasonableness that you need to consider for approval. 216 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:34,530 Yes. So for the statement of consistency and reasonableness, it states that the proposed conditional zoning with the conditions herein is consistent with the 2022 land use plan, which states that a variety of residential building types will be supported to provide options and quality housing with emphasis on single family, multifamily and mixed use buildings in urban form options should include a range in affordability and fill will be designed in such a way as to protect the character of established 217 00:16:34,530 --> 00:16:39,630 neighborhoods, lot sizes, and densities will be commissarate with existing surrounding 218 00:16:39,630 --> 00:16:43,730 neighborhoods and higher density development and close proximity to low-density development 219 00:16:44,370 --> 00:16:48,130 should incorporate ample open space and edge treatments to reduce impacts. 220 00:16:48,930 --> 00:16:53,750 Great. Thank you. Council, is there a motion then to approve the statement of consistency 221 00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:57,010 and reasonableness as read by Mr. Monk? 222 00:16:57,270 --> 00:17:03,570 Second, a motion by Councilwoman Claes, a second by Councilman Welburn, all those in favor 223 00:17:03,570 --> 00:17:05,750 say aye. Are there any opposed? 224 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:12,950 Thank you. So next recommendation then is to, it's for the 225 00:17:12,950 --> 00:17:21,130 Council to consider adopting ordinance 030-2026 to amend the City of Lexington Unified Development 226 00:17:21,130 --> 00:17:27,810 Ordnance Zoning Map to affect subject properties located along West Holly Grove Road and owned by 227 00:17:27,810 --> 00:17:48,270 KLM Land LLC identified by the Davidson County Tax Department as partial numbers ending in 0-0-9, 0-0-9-A, 0-0-12, 0-0-5, and his own Conditional Zoning District 0-3-0-2026. 228 00:17:48,270 --> 00:17:51,990 is there a motion from Council to consider a number? 229 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:53,230 We make that motion. 230 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:55,350 There is one additional parcel number, 231 00:17:55,670 --> 00:17:56,970 and that ends in 9A. 232 00:17:57,330 --> 00:18:02,130 It's 11339-000009-A. 233 00:18:02,410 --> 00:18:04,330 I thought I stated that. 234 00:18:06,190 --> 00:18:07,470 Okay, I just want to make sure. 235 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:08,150 That's okay. 236 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:10,610 I appreciate you catching me doing something right. 237 00:18:11,050 --> 00:18:11,350 Thank you. 238 00:18:11,930 --> 00:18:12,450 There we go. 239 00:18:13,610 --> 00:18:15,830 So was there another parcel number 240 00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:17,150 that needs to be included there then? 241 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:18,570 It's just not up here. 242 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:19,390 Oh, I see. 243 00:18:19,550 --> 00:18:20,130 It's on here. 244 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:21,750 It's just not on the side of the paper. 245 00:18:21,930 --> 00:18:22,330 Thank you. 246 00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:25,390 So, for the record, we do have 009A. 247 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:25,890 Thank you. 248 00:18:26,550 --> 00:18:27,670 And there was a motion. 249 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:28,690 Oh, there's the room. 250 00:18:28,910 --> 00:18:29,090 A motion. 251 00:18:30,270 --> 00:18:31,310 Council, my heart makes the motion. 252 00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:32,770 Councilman Holloway is a second. 253 00:18:33,010 --> 00:18:34,290 All those in favor say aye. 254 00:18:34,550 --> 00:18:34,710 Aye. 255 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:35,690 Are there any opposed? 256 00:18:36,170 --> 00:18:36,410 Excellent. 257 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:36,950 That passes. 258 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:41,250 And before you, just one additional question, do you know what the timing is associated with 259 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:42,410 this particular development? 260 00:18:42,510 --> 00:18:47,070 Is this something that is going through development in terms of? 261 00:18:47,070 --> 00:18:52,610 approval and then ground will break at that point or is this one that's more 262 00:18:52,610 --> 00:18:56,750 speculative and will take some time? So they're working on the civil plans 263 00:18:56,750 --> 00:19:03,030 currently they're actually being reviewed at the moment and I believe once this 264 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:05,970 was passed they're going to reach back out to one of the home builders here 265 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:11,790 speaking to I don't want to speak for Brent or Kevin but I believe with this 266 00:19:11,790 --> 00:19:17,250 they would be possibly interested in development again, I want to speak for you. 267 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:20,410 I would be interested in or the builder. 268 00:19:20,970 --> 00:19:21,270 The builder? 269 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:21,610 Yes. 270 00:19:22,170 --> 00:19:22,430 Exactly. 271 00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:25,750 They're saying, hey, let me know how it goes. 272 00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:26,610 Okay. 273 00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:27,090 Got to. 274 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:27,490 Excellent. 275 00:19:27,730 --> 00:19:32,730 Just want to make sure council is aware and the public was interested, they were aware as 276 00:19:32,730 --> 00:19:32,950 well. 277 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:33,990 What's your daughter's name? 278 00:19:34,610 --> 00:19:34,830 Lucy. 279 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:36,950 Hi, Lucy. 280 00:19:37,690 --> 00:19:40,790 So Lucy, you're welcome to come back anytime. 281 00:19:40,790 --> 00:19:44,690 time. You can come with your dad, but hopefully it's not related to this particular 282 00:19:44,690 --> 00:19:49,150 development, but you're welcome to come back anytime. We'd love to see you. 283 00:19:49,770 --> 00:19:50,010 Okay? 284 00:19:50,610 --> 00:19:51,150 Thanks. What's it? 285 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:54,290 It is. That's my granddaughter's name too. I'll remember that for sure. 286 00:19:54,850 --> 00:19:55,630 Excellent. Thank you. 287 00:19:55,690 --> 00:19:56,670 Thank you all very much. 288 00:19:57,170 --> 00:19:57,390 Thank you. 289 00:19:57,450 --> 00:19:58,930 All right, Council. Thank you, Mr. Monk. 290 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:32,970 All right, council. Next up is the consent agenda. And there are, let's see here, one, two, three, four, five, six items on the consent agenda. And this council is aware. You have the opportunity to, with one motion, pass and approve all items on the consent agenda. Or if there are specific items that you would like pulled, 291 00:20:32,970 --> 00:20:38,150 for additional discussion, clarification, that is absolutely your right. 292 00:20:38,610 --> 00:20:44,170 Are there any items that any council member would like pulled for additional discussion? 293 00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:44,790 No? 294 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:46,750 Not at this time. 295 00:20:47,290 --> 00:20:47,550 Excellent. 296 00:20:47,730 --> 00:20:47,990 Thank you. 297 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:52,730 So, at this time, would accept a motion then to approve the consent agenda. 298 00:20:53,630 --> 00:20:54,090 So moved. 299 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:54,910 Second. 300 00:20:55,330 --> 00:20:58,250 We have a motion by Councilman Curry, second by Councilman Welburn. 301 00:20:58,530 --> 00:20:59,690 All those in favor say aye. 302 00:21:00,090 --> 00:21:00,290 Aye. 303 00:21:00,810 --> 00:21:01,410 Are there any opposed? 304 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:07,830 consent agenda is approved. Next up is the City Council's report. I just had a 305 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:15,470 few items that I wanted to mention to council. On the 17th of August we had an 306 00:21:15,470 --> 00:21:22,190 employer support of National Guard and Reserve Luncheon myself as well as 307 00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:27,890 manager Taylor, the assistant city managers and both the police chief and the 308 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:33,170 Fire Chief attended this particular event in Thomasville in support of Guard 309 00:21:33,170 --> 00:21:37,810 Reserve. Also wanted to let Council know that I was invited to be a guest 310 00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:42,970 speaker at the Davidson Davie apprenticeship consortium signing event and that 311 00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:48,510 was on the 19th was one of the speakers of that event. Also wanted to thank the 312 00:21:48,510 --> 00:21:54,530 members of Council who on the 21st of August showed up at back-to-back 313 00:21:54,530 --> 00:22:00,990 ribbon cuttings at the beauty lab hair company, the second company I'm that's right beside 314 00:22:00,990 --> 00:22:01,170 it. 315 00:22:01,190 --> 00:22:01,930 I'm blanking on that. 316 00:22:02,010 --> 00:22:02,630 Do you all remember? 317 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:04,310 It's right beside it. 318 00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:04,530 I don't know. 319 00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:05,130 We cut the ribbon. 320 00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:06,450 We cut the ribbon. 321 00:22:06,570 --> 00:22:07,070 We took pictures. 322 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:08,050 We can prove we're there. 323 00:22:08,730 --> 00:22:16,770 And then following that, Aspire Dental also opened up their new location on E-Center Street 324 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:19,490 and want to thank everyone from Council who was there. 325 00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:21,490 Thank you as well as manager Taylor. 326 00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:25,490 and also wanted to make Council aware that there is a 327 00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:30,490 Lexington Pride Festival on Saturday the 29th from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at 328 00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:32,690 Breeden Insurance Ampitheater. 329 00:22:33,250 --> 00:22:37,390 Want to make Council aware that on the 7th of September that is Labor Day. 330 00:22:37,950 --> 00:22:41,810 City offices are closed and then the 14th, 331 00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:46,070 excuse me, of September will be our next City Council meeting. 332 00:22:46,770 --> 00:22:50,070 Those are the items that I had to update Council in the public. 333 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:52,190 are there any other items that you all have? 334 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:54,620 No? 335 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,340 Excellent. So with that, we'll hand it over 336 00:22:57,340 --> 00:23:00,480 to manager Taylor for the City Manager's report. 337 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,080 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 338 00:23:04,020 --> 00:23:06,400 I want to recognize all of the employees 339 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,280 that serve us here in our community 340 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,700 and the great work that they do 341 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:13,680 to keep everything moving forward 342 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:15,800 here in this great city. 343 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,920 I also want to mention that we are accepting applications 344 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:29,740 for the Lexington Academy, and we'll be doing so up until September 4, ages 16 and up for Lexington residents. 345 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:38,160 So if you know someone that wants to really figure out how all these things work, please have them sign up for the program. 346 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:43,180 It's a great program, and I think that it will be very enriching for those that participate. 347 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,660 also want to mention that the fall program guide for recreation and parks is 348 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,680 now on the city website so there's the old middle out version but there's also 349 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,660 a digital version as well and please tune in for all of the activities that are 350 00:23:59,660 --> 00:24:05,560 taking place also want to mention that the uptown planners they're filling out 351 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:12,040 that project is doing well so I want to give public ground special thanks for all 352 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:19,020 the work they're doing to water those planners and hopefully things will continue to flourish in that 353 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:22,400 area. That's key to it, keeping them water. 354 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:30,720 And I also want to I have a special presentation 355 00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:40,080 that we like to share on tonight an education piece during this time and there are years chief 356 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:48,500 We'll come forward and provide us with a brief educational session on a topic that has been discussed quite frequently. 357 00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:53,890 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 358 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:54,750 Good evening. 359 00:24:56,170 --> 00:24:58,590 I'm here to speak this evening. 360 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:29,920 About flock cameras. Okay. You're at the wrong meeting. It's, you know, I want to start off first by saying that flock is is nothing more than a brand. What we're really talking about is automated license plate readers. And we use flock as do many other agencies and also have our vision statement here for the police department. And I'll end with this for a very important reason. And that is 361 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,380 is we pursue excellence in professional policing. 362 00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:37,680 Now, what does that mean as it relates to this topic? 363 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680 It means that we want to use the best technology, 364 00:25:41,020 --> 00:25:43,140 other resources that we can actually do 365 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:45,880 to help keep our community safe. 366 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:49,460 Also, under that umbrella of professional policing 367 00:25:49,460 --> 00:25:51,200 is how do we conduct ourselves? 368 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,920 How do we hold ourselves accountable and be responsible 369 00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:57,080 in using these things responsible? 370 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:03,440 is I'm going to touch on a little bit of that to see because from an educational standpoint, 371 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:07,530 one, how does the technology work? 372 00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:11,650 So there's no video involved whatsoever. 373 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:17,910 The cameras that you see from different places around the city that are flat cameras, 374 00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:24,010 those are nothing more than screenshots, screen captures, no video, 375 00:26:24,010 --> 00:26:29,790 No different than anyone standing out in a public place taking photographs of the rear 376 00:26:29,790 --> 00:26:34,970 of course there's no there's no expectation to privacy of that you're on a public road. 377 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:43,230 Now what that does the system checks that tag the system does not have your information 378 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:49,010 or the registered owner's information that does not have that what it does is it reads 379 00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:55,550 that tag, and it checks it against a checklist, like a database. 380 00:26:56,150 --> 00:27:01,210 For instance, NCIC or National Crime Information Center, see if it's stolen. 381 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:08,550 The alerts that we get is nothing more than a system saying, hey, I saw this tag, I 382 00:27:08,550 --> 00:27:14,050 checked it against these databases, I see that this tag is on that database. 383 00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:17,250 Okay, so that alerts us. 384 00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:25,710 What we have to do is we have to visually verify that, if we see that core, we visually 385 00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:31,190 verify the tag, we make sure it's correct, we check the source record. 386 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:34,630 So we don't stop just based off of flock alert. 387 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:40,870 We check the source record, this uses stolen vehicle for instance, it gets flagged, we get 388 00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:48,170 alert, stolen vehicle passed this camera, officers get in the area, they see the tag, they 389 00:27:48,170 --> 00:27:53,670 verify us the right tag, they call it into communications, just like they would any other 390 00:27:53,670 --> 00:27:59,530 time to say, can you verify this is stolen? So the only thing, which is a huge thing that 391 00:27:59,530 --> 00:28:06,430 flocked in that particular instance was this, it pointed us to something to look at. 392 00:28:06,430 --> 00:28:12,070 But we did not take action based solely on the technology. 393 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:15,830 There's no facial recognition involved whatsoever. 394 00:28:17,150 --> 00:28:19,130 The technology is not track you. 395 00:28:20,410 --> 00:28:23,090 Now there's technology in this world that does that. 396 00:28:23,290 --> 00:28:24,050 This is not that. 397 00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:26,030 This is absolutely not that. 398 00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:32,290 It provides real-time alerts to authorize law enforcement personnel. 399 00:28:32,290 --> 00:28:39,550 It only our officers get alerts, the sworn officers and investigators, it provides a search 400 00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:43,950 function after a crime has been committed or a person has gone missing. 401 00:28:45,010 --> 00:28:51,130 So if we have a missing person and we have a vehicle that's associated with that person 402 00:28:51,790 --> 00:28:58,150 with the tag number, we can enter that in and say, this is a missing person and so if it crosses 403 00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:04,730 any of those cameras we get alerted. Just us alone have had two missing people 404 00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:10,610 found because of flock cameras. Just today we had a missing person with the 405 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:14,530 mention from another county that was going through. We didn't quite get to 406 00:29:14,530 --> 00:29:19,350 them, but they found them in Davie County off of flock cameras. So the search 407 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:25,050 function is one that not all officers have access to do. That's a very 408 00:29:25,050 --> 00:29:30,930 important piece of information, it goes back to being professional. The only folks that need 409 00:29:30,930 --> 00:29:36,870 to have access to do after-incident searches as our supervisors, because there's always going to be 410 00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:43,530 at least one on duty in case you need it, in our investigators. We don't just open it up for anybody, 411 00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:49,310 because you have to be able to manage it. We have excellent staff, wonderful staff, 412 00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:54,430 but you still got to manage things professionally, and that's one of the safeguards we have there as well. 413 00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:59,610 Now we implement these in September 2024. 414 00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:30,350 Since that time, flat cameras have been instrumental in leading to 156 arrests. Twenty-six stolen vehicles recovered. Not just our stolen cars, stolen cars from other jurisdictions. Two missing persons located in countless investigative leads. I want to highlight the stolen vehicles for a moment. That's particularly important to me, obviously the missing persons is important for obvious reasons. Let's talk about stolen vehicles. 415 00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:34,970 vehicles. I'm sure what everybody in this room knows, it doesn't take a law enforcement 416 00:30:34,970 --> 00:30:43,590 professional to know this, is that so many times folks steal cars in their driving and 417 00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:50,250 stolen cars because they want to go commit other crimes and go undetected. And so our 418 00:30:50,250 --> 00:31:00,330 philosophy is if we can catch a stolen car and someone in a stolen car, as soon as we 419 00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:05,750 I really believe, in all my experience, we don't know what we have prevented, because 420 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:11,590 my experience tells me that those in stolen cars often are going to go do other crimes. 421 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:13,930 So that's very important as well. 422 00:31:16,610 --> 00:31:18,950 Public Safety Impact is a force multiplier. 423 00:31:20,030 --> 00:31:25,050 What that means is, we've got that many more eyes out there, it's just scanning cars, it's 424 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:25,910 just sending us alerts. 425 00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:28,970 It's not sending any information. 426 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:34,010 All it's doing is checking tags against other things that's on different lists. 427 00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:43,010 Crime prevention, recovery storm vehicle removes tool frequently used to commit additional 428 00:31:43,010 --> 00:31:43,290 crimes. 429 00:31:43,290 --> 00:31:50,030 I've already mentioned that in 156 arrests, and I'm not saying in all of them, but I think 430 00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:55,450 you would agree that for at least a good portion of those, when your arrest individuals on 431 00:31:55,450 --> 00:32:00,190 outstanding charges, you may be preventing them from committing additional crimes. 432 00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:09,950 In other investigative leads, the flight cameras does not always provide just the main hit, 433 00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:10,890 as you would say. 434 00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:14,050 A lot of times it provides us a simple piece. 435 00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:19,130 We've had that happen, I'll spare, I can't speak to the details, but we've had that happen 436 00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:23,210 in two homicide cases in the city of Lexington since we've implemented them, 437 00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:27,030 and then since we, with other agencies, LPRs as well. 438 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:37,700 accountability. So again I want to speak to the before any action enforcement 439 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:43,440 action or stop we receive the alert officer visually verifies the license plate 440 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:50,400 we check it against the source record and then we make a stop based on legal 441 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:59,000 grounds and every time we do that we record outcomes. Anytime we actually get 442 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,000 hit an alert and we find that car we always enter in the outcome so that we 443 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:11,200 know. Oversight as I mentioned before only supervising investigators every 444 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:18,900 single search, every single search is logged and it cannot be erased. We 445 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:24,660 actually we actually utilize the flock operating systems out of the 446 00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:31,240 assist future feature that helps us audit search records. I myself do some of the audits 447 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,960 Captain Davis is here. He's an investigation captain. He does them. So we'll watch this 448 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:43,820 very closely. That's because we we audit it at that level because we know how 449 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:48,300 available the tool it is and we know how important it is for people to feel safe 450 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:55,160 from what we're using. So in for as the pictures, the snapshots that are captured in the database, 451 00:33:55,860 --> 00:34:00,980 those are automatically, these are only retained for 30 days, which is much brief, more brief 452 00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:10,000 than the state allows up to 90 days. 30 days is the standard retention period. So we have 453 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,900 15 cameras. 454 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,080 It cost annual cost of 455. That's the starting salary to current police officer. 455 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:25,140 but it has a lot of impact. We've had proven results in professional accountability. 456 00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:31,900 There's no question that's what we're going to do. That's a mandate of myself. 457 00:34:32,620 --> 00:34:38,340 That's a mandate of the city leadership. And that's something we take very seriously 458 00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:45,800 in being a professional agency. Let's all have here be happy to entertain any questions that you might have. 459 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,820 Yes, she from a job a couple of questions about this as it relates to like the efficiency 460 00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:52,480 of the process. 461 00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:57,440 Can you walk us through like you know a car stolen and listen Salem they're headed 462 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,200 towards Lexington. 463 00:34:58,420 --> 00:34:59,900 How does their system come? 464 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:29,140 I'm going to indicate with you in real time to note that there's a stolen vehicle. Maybe had it our way. All right, so here, good question. So one of the reasons why we went with the flock vendor when we did is because it was the only automated license plate vendor that had the authority to be integrated with the FBI's NCIC system. So anytime you enter somebody missing, wanted a stolen car, the automatically goes into what's called NCIC. 465 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:34,680 And when you enter it in there, there's no need to enter in the flock, because flock 466 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,540 is the, I'm not sure if it's the only one who still does, but I know this. 467 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,740 There's C just compliant, which means criminal justice, information systems, IT compliance. 468 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,820 I can't tell you all what that means, but I know it's a big deal to have that compliance. 469 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:53,360 So what it's doing is it's checking against that database, which we use all the time. 470 00:35:53,360 --> 00:36:03,600 So in your scenario, sir, when you say how do we know how does a system know is because they're entering it into NCIC just like they have for decades. 471 00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:11,360 The only difference is is the LPR is a tool that picks up that tag. It checks against that database. 472 00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:14,730 Thank you. 473 00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:14,970 Yes. 474 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:22,930 Thank you for bringing this information because people will come to us and they've seen something 475 00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:26,790 on Facebook or some other source and they're slamming it and all this other stuff. 476 00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:32,650 Thank you for this information so that we can counterbalance that and correct them and say, 477 00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:36,350 you don't have any idea how wonderful tool this is. Thank you. 478 00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:42,370 Absolutely. And listen, I will say this that I understand that folks may have privacy concerns. 479 00:36:42,370 --> 00:36:49,090 I'm reminded that every time I've scrolled through my phone and I'm seeing ads for things that I've done nothing more than read or talk about 480 00:36:49,090 --> 00:36:54,710 How do you search so I do understand I do understand that and that's part of professionalism on a highlight 481 00:36:54,710 --> 00:37:03,870 Is we don't ignore those concerns that we make sure that a professional agency balances those concerns with also trying to ensure public safety is the best way 482 00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:12,030 We can other additional questions for teeth also want to make counsel aware that we did have 483 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:19,270 We did have a citizen who reached out to us about the city's use of 484 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:24,450 flock cameras. I sat down in the meeting with Chief with our city manager, 485 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:29,290 our city attorney, and this concerned individual. And by the end of the 486 00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:34,090 discussion, which had very similar content, I would say here, they felt a lot 487 00:37:34,090 --> 00:37:43,810 better about how we were utilizing the system in order to to deter crime. So I want to thank you 488 00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:50,310 for that too, Chief. Absolutely. Thank you. And I'm assuming that that in real time it's AI that 489 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:56,730 is that's reading this in some way, shape or form. Yes, it's AI. It's doing that, checking that. 490 00:37:57,430 --> 00:38:02,930 And then we can do, you know, sometimes we may have a, you know, on the search function, 491 00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:08,950 you may hear folks speak to a vehicle fingerprint as well as people call it. 492 00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:14,070 And so what we can do is when we do searches, is we can search tag numbers, what we can 493 00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:20,430 search descriptions, say like, white, you know, look at this time frame, white pickup truck 494 00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:23,470 pulling the trailer, and it'll show us all of those. 495 00:38:23,470 --> 00:38:26,170 And then it's on us to go even further. 496 00:38:26,890 --> 00:38:28,910 Interesting enough, this is past Friday, 497 00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:30,650 we had something very similar to that. 498 00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:33,270 We had a call over road rage, 499 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:37,250 where a suspect that allegedly poured a hand gun 500 00:38:37,630 --> 00:38:40,990 with an extended magazine on a road rage thing. 501 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:42,230 We got a vehicle description. 502 00:38:43,070 --> 00:38:44,990 Couldn't barely a partial tag. 503 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:47,050 Was able to run that through flock. 504 00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:51,250 It was such a clear distinct vehicle. 505 00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:55,030 it was able to get that, that led us to a Western 506 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:59,410 Street extension where we ended up seizing not only 507 00:38:59,410 --> 00:39:02,610 that gun, but another gun, and we seized the vehicle 508 00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:04,810 because you ran from our officers once we was able 509 00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:05,390 to find them. 510 00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:08,770 So it was just Friday. 511 00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:10,350 Well, thank you. 512 00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:14,450 Can we have them here in Lexington and the county not 513 00:39:14,450 --> 00:39:14,950 have them? 514 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:20,750 Yes, there's no, OK, so if other agencies 515 00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:29,310 have them benefit benefit us from the search function when we search like say 516 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:34,390 we're looking for a certain car we can search their network because we're 517 00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:40,710 all intertwined we every agency manages our own data and who had that type of 518 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:46,330 stuff so we can search against that as well so if they don't have there's our 519 00:39:46,330 --> 00:39:53,270 search capacity goes down, but so that is problematic for us, but it does not have anything 520 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:58,090 to do with the alerts, because the alerts are a stand-alone that we have within ours. 521 00:39:58,090 --> 00:39:59,950 So, if they vowed against them... 522 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,780 We can still have them. Absolutely. He's also saying that that our capability to be able to pull data, if they decide to not have them anymore, it goes down. Yes, because it's affected like that within the region. I'm assuming. So if we like like an incident Friday, you know, we, we're trying to raise to get everything we can. We would no longer have access to their camera data for that, but we could search, you know, if Thomas was got there, 523 00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:37,980 and ours, we could try to find it and that we still have to go through and it doesn't take all the work out. 524 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:43,440 What it does is it kind of leads us to something to look at. 525 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:47,780 Chief Ramadhan, I have one more question. 526 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,120 And Councilman Black sort of alluded to it during his question. 527 00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:54,580 Obviously, you know, this is a great presentation. 528 00:40:54,940 --> 00:40:59,100 The cause doesn't seem to be anything that's written in our astronomical or anything like that. 529 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:04,580 At the Councilman Black's point, there has been some rhetoric on Facebook to maybe the 530 00:41:04,580 --> 00:41:08,980 downside of this use of technology, that's someone who manages this technology. 531 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:18,120 Have you witnessed any effects that you might feel will be detrimental or if you were given 532 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,100 another police chief advice about, you know, they were about, they were thinking about starting 533 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,160 the use of this technology. 534 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,460 What would you tell him or her to be concerned about as it relates to this flock of technology? 535 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:36,440 Well, I think the news as well documented that some poor implementation has been done with it in 536 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,940 different places. That's the reason why we're so purposeful on what we do. In some of those things 537 00:41:41,940 --> 00:41:48,420 where officers have made very bad choices for lack of a better term, I think those could have been 538 00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:53,320 mitigated. Had it been implemented in a little better fashion, just my opinion, not naming names, 539 00:41:53,320 --> 00:42:02,560 but I think it would be. And I'll say to you point I will, you know, we have a very robust policy 540 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,120 when it comes to oversight. And as being a member of the Board of Directors for North 541 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:14,000 Class Chiefs Association, we're actually working on, you know, industry best practices. What's the 542 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:21,240 best policy to try to go statewide on it so that everybody has it? So, yeah, there are concerns out 543 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:26,340 there, but I don't really have them here because I know how robust our audit process is. 544 00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:35,980 And you know, also the other thing too, if I had concerns about the privacy of it, I 545 00:42:35,980 --> 00:42:40,560 think one of the things too that we have to remember is every single one of us and every 546 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,180 single one of our family members ride by these every day because they're put in very objective 547 00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:50,720 of locations. If I had any concerns with that, then, you know, we're on the other end 548 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,900 of it as well. So good question. Thank you. Thank you. 549 00:42:56,130 --> 00:43:02,630 Manager Taylor, thank you for having Chief Rommage address this is very timely. And we know 550 00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:06,690 that it can be controversial as well. But I think the more information we have, the better. 551 00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:11,510 So thank you for that. Can we assume then that your next presentation is going to be on 552 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:13,430 data centers at the next meeting? 553 00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:20,190 I don't I don't think that's within my lane. Okay. That's all good. Thank you very much for the presentation. 554 00:43:20,350 --> 00:43:26,950 Absolutely. Thank you. That's all I have for tonight. Excellent. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. 555 00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:42,570 So council next up on our agenda's closed session would entertain a motion to enter for counsel to enter closed session related to an economic development matter is allowed by North Carolina General Statues 143-318.11A4. 556 00:43:42,570 --> 00:43:45,650 and personnel matters as allowed by North Carolina General 557 00:43:45,650 --> 00:43:50,510 Statutes 143-318.11A6. 558 00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:56,290 So, the motion from Councilman Wilburn and the second from 559 00:43:56,290 --> 00:43:58,450 Councilman Curry, all those in favor say aye. 560 00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:59,030 Aye. 561 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:59,750 You opposed? 562 00:44:00,190 --> 00:44:01,950 We are now entering in the closed session. 563 00:44:02,130 --> 00:44:02,450 Thank you. 564 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,080 Have a motion to return to open session, please. 565 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:09,280 Second. 566 00:44:09,820 --> 00:44:13,420 Motion by Councilman Myers, second by Councilman Wilburn, all those in 567 00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:14,140 favor say aye. 568 00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:14,220 Aye. 569 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,720 Thank you. 570 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:16,400 Any opposed? 571 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,440 We are now currently in open session coming out of close session. 572 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:31,400 The Council and Mr. Taylor have agreed to renew his employment contract and Council wishes 573 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:37,540 to thank Mr. Taylor for all the support that he has shown the city over this past year. 574 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,220 Mr. Taylor, thank you so much for that. 575 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:41,920 With that Council, we are ready to adjourn. 576 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,020 We need a motion for adjournment. 577 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,440 We're adjourned. Thank you.