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Good evening.
>> Good evening.

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» Good to see a house full sometime.
Welcome to the Liberty County Board of

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Commissioners first Tuesday meeting.
Yes, for your information, we also meet

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on third Thursday at 5:00. And of
course, all of our meetings are live

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stream and certainly invite the public
to either watch us live stream or to

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come sit in and just kind of get a view
of what's going on from this side.

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There's nothing better than being close
to it so you have a better understanding

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of how county works. I spoke with the
group on earlier it was Monday

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um leadership group and um in fact the
feedback from them was they they were

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not aware at all of our processes.
People think you can just jump and do

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things you can't do. They when it's in
government and they learn to the

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government doesn't move fast. It takes
time to get things done but it does

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move. It does move like a model T does
move. So good to have you all here. Mr.

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Wilson, has the media been profit
advertised?

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» Yes, sir.
>> All right. Uh Bishop Paige, will you

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please come? Mr. Kennel Page, man
[snorts] Christian Center,

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[clears throat] will you please come and
lead us on the invocation? We will stand

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please for the invocation and the
pledge.

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[snorts]
Let us pray. Most holy and righteous

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God, we come to you today. Thank you for
this day. We thank you for the county

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commissioners and all the assistants to
the board. We pray for the their

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families. We ask you for the wisdom and
guidance as they conduct this meeting.

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Give them a clear mind and sound
judgment on the community issues. We

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pray that the commissioners act as good
shepherds who protect and care for the

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residents with equality. We ask for
peaceful communities and support for

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their families of all our public
servants. We even God pray for our

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students as they begin this school year.
It's in Jesus name we do pray and give

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you praise. Amen.
>> Amen.

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Pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> I held it down by myself. Don't worry.

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» Thank you, Mr. Paige. Good to have you,
sir. Thank you for being committed to

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doing that for us. And thank you for the
prayers to cover us and of course our

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school children who started back today.
I went to one of the J ones and it's

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it's interesting,
but we pray for them all. All right. Uh,

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commissioners,
let's see. I do know that Commissioner

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Gillard said he may be on the way. I
hadn't heard from Commissioner Wal.

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Sometime he calls him, I haven't heard
from him. Okay. We're still praying to

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for him for his recovery. Uh July 20 26
meeting minutes need to be approved by

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you commissioners.
>> I'll move Mr. Chair.

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» Second.
>> Motion second. We approve the minutes

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for Let me get the base right. July 7th.
>> That's right. We only had one meeting.

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That's Did y'all miss it? The one
meeting. We didn't have a meeting last

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night.
>> No, we did not. [laughter]

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» I missed y'all.
>> A motion and a second to approve the

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July 7th minute. Any further discussion?
There being none. All in favor, show of

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hands, please. All right, those minutes
are approved. Thank you, commissioners.

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A proclamation for Dr. Mary W. Murray.
She's in the house. Good to see you.

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Who's on? Normally, he reads it, but
somebody generally comes to give us a

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little little lead into it. Is that you?
Uh, Dr. White, are you the you the

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leading man?

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» Good afternoon, um, commissioners and
those that are present. We

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[clears throat] are here to honor um Dr.
Mary W. Mary uh for 44 years of active

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educational services to our students um
on Fort Stewart and beyond. Uh she has

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been a blessing not only to the student
body at Fort Stewart, but she's also

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been a blessing to this community
because one thing about it, those

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students that are over on Fort Stewart,
when they graduate out of middle school,

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they're coming over to our uh community,
either Bradwell or they're coming over

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to Liberty County High School. So, it is
an honor that she has just recently

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retired
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honor her [applause] as we

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That that's a double four.
>> Yeah, double four as we prepare to

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really honor her in a celebration on
this coming Saturday um her retirement

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ceremony. So that's why we are here on
this afternoon to pro to have a

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proclamation from the board of
commissioners in order to be able to u

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present that to her on Saturday.
>> All right, stay right there. Mr. Mos,

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Dr. Murray, will you please come stand
next to Mr. White?

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and

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» come on.

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» Thank you. Appreciate that.
>> Come on.

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» These kind of things only happen once in
a lifetime sometimes.

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» Just a little bit.
>> All right.

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» Proclamation. A proclamation honor Dr.
Mary W. Murray for extraordinary

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contributions to education, leadership,
and youth empowerment. Whereas Dr. Mary

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W. Murray has devoted her professional
life to advancing education, developing

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future leaders, and empowering students
through teaching, mentorship,

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scholarship, and service. And whereas
Dr. Murray faithfully served as the

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official academic dean of the National
Collegiate Music Conference

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headquartered in Charlotte, North
Carolina, providing academic leadership

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and guidance to more than 1,000 high
school college students nationwide each

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year, inspiring academic excellence and
personal achievement. Whereas Dr. Murray

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has demonstrated exceptional leadership
in higher education, serving as a junk

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dean at Jacksonville Theological
Seminary from 1998 through 2008, where

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she authored and developed the course
effective communication, which continues

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to prepare students with the
communication skills essential for

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leadership and professional success. And
whereas Dr. Murray has further

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distinguished herself as a proctor for
Liberty University and adjunct professor

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for Union Institute University and an
accounting instructor at Savannah

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Technical College, sharing her knowledge
and expertise with students pursuing

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high higher education and career
advancement. And whereas Dr. Murray has

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further uh distinguished career
education spans more than four decades

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including 33 37 years as a teacher with
department of defense education activity

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schools four years in public school
system and three years as director of

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child development services in Mahan
Germany positively impacting thousands

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of students families and educators
around the world and whereas in

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recognition of her exceptional
leadership professionalism and

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unwavering commitment to academic
excellence Dr. Murray was honored as the

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2013 2014 teacher of the year at Diamond
Elementary School, Fort Stewart, by the

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Department of Defense Schools. And now
therefore, be it proclaimed that the

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Liberty County Board of Commissioners
hereby recognize and honor Dr. Mary W.

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Murray for her extraordinary lifetime of
service to education, her unwavering

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commitment to youth development, her
leadership in higher education, and her

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tireless efforts to proclaim scholastic
opportunities and empower young women to

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achieve their academic dreams. Be it
further resolved that the Liberty County

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Board of Commissioners extend a
sincerest gratitude and appreciation to

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Dr. Mary W. Murray for her remarkable
contributions to the citizens of Liberty

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County, the state of Georgia and
communities throughout the nation and

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wish our continued health success and
many more years of impactful service and

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witness thereof. I here to have set my
hand and cause the seal of Liberty

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County, Georgia to be fixed this fourth
day of August in the year 2026. Donald

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L. Love Levit chairman. [applause]

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» We'll do a photo op, Dr. Murray. But
first, you greet us in your own way.

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» Y'all making me talk. It's all good. I
want to say thank you so much for your

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for the opportunity to serve Liberty
County. I do consider Liberty County,

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Fort Stewart, Liberty County. And I also
have taught in Liberty County as well.

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And this is my son, Larry. And uh it's
been a privilege and it's been an honor

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to serve and to educate children and
students that are now professionals in

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their own right. Some principles, some
uh doctors, some are lawyers, some are

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nurses, some are police officers. And if
one pulled me over, they like that you

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Dr. Murray. Yes, that's me. [laughter]

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But never mind. Y'all figure out how.
[laughter]

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But I want to say thank you so much for
this opportunity because it's my service

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after moving back here from Germany with
my husband and I serving in Mannheim,

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Germany for six years, still educating
and directing other people to do what is

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necessary to do to make sure that
they're getting the skills that they

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need. I want to say thank you to the
commissioners for this opportunity.

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Thank you.
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» commissioners want to say thank you.
>> Thank you. I tell everyone, you know,

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not only did you all make Liberty County
your home, but you've been involved, you

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know, giving back. So, we appreciate
that. You all make Liberty County a

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better place. Now,
>> General, you got you got to come around.

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» Come around. Come around.
>> Yeah. Y'all come on up to the podium.

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Thank you so much.
>> How you doing, sir?

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» Dr. Your pleas right here.
>> Yes, sir. Thank you so much. I

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appreciate it. Congratulations.
>> Thank you. Appreciate it.

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» Hold on to that with me
and look at those

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Can we see everybody guys?

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» Everybody good?
>> Give her another hand.

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» Long life of
>> Thank you.

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» good health and prosperity.
>> Thank you so much.

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» Thank you.

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» 44 years.
>> Amen.

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You better look 44.

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» All right. Uh, we have an excite
exciting project happening in Liberty

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County in the in the Wall Thville area
that some of us are witnessing the

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progress of it. So, uh, the city of
Waltharville had a I would say in not

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inservice, but a briefing did. So, I
said, "Well, it's a county project.

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bring them to the camera so we can hear
about the progress on Independence

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Parkway. So, Mr. Tim McCauley and Roia
Der are coming to present on

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Independence Parkway phase one.

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» I can't follow that. [laughter]
How about 30 years?

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» Projects going great. uh on schedule,
way over budget like everything

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government nowadays. Uh
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December
of 27 instead of October, end of

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October. So had a few changes just
um building through a swamp is an

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experience and job looks great. Um very
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Department of Transportation seems to be
they told me it's a poster project for

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erosion control and prevention and
construction progress. So, as project

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manager for Atlas, you know, I take that
as an honor. But as long as I keep my

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bosses happy, I'm doing good. So,
>> project's going great. Um

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I brought you a set of the um final
marking and signing plans. If it would

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be something any of your constituents
had any questions for y'all that maybe

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you could u have something

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» if you' be so kind to send this to that
gentleman electronically.

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» Ma'am,
>> you send send this to that gentleman

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electronically.
Email it to him so we'll have a a

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digital copy.
>> I sure can.

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» Digital copy. Okay.
>> Uh tell me about Griffin Road. I read

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that.
>> What can I Does anybody have any

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questions they'd like to know or can I
answer?

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» You had to close off Griffin Road. Tell
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» What?
>> You had to close off Griffin Road.

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» Griffin Road. Okay. That's part of the
construction that was in the original

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plans where
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to limit you know no through crossing
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» Um everybody will have to go down to
Carter Road to access

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» which is far out way but
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Carter here month and a half ago.
We got Carter. Everything's done on it

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except final surfacing. Um, curbon
gutters in. Um, utilities have been a

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challenge, but I part of the business
and Trent Long has been a blessing to

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our project on what he contributes his
knowledge and his team coming out and

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helping and providing us information on
locations of

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plans of
where they think that everything's

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supposed to be. We've had some issues
with utilities, but um overcame them so

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far.
>> Bridge is uh we should pour our first

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deck
middle of August. Um so that's

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progressing nicely. Um
had a lot of changes and a lot of money

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spent on foundations
changes because building through a

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swamp. [clears throat]
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had no data, you know, for the

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great contractor, Reeves Construction.

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DOT's gave me a good team to do the
inspection work and

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one of my young guys lives here in
Liberty County. So,

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Mr. Long,

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when you say you ran into the uh issues
with the foundation,

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Trent told us it's going to be the
longest bridge in Liberty County that

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you're building.
>> So, my point is, is there something from

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this project that we can learn so we
don't have the same problem with phase

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two? It's going to even even more more
wetlands and

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The hard part was where they are now.
There was really no access. There was no

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way to get any kind of boring equipment
or any kind of equipment to test before

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they got clearing and before they
stand

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up. We may not have

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gallery have bridge quite this long
because this bridge is over

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swamp and bridge over railroad

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» the issue with utilities is just

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» location location location
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» you know a lot stuff that we put in we
put in 20 plus years ago or 30 plus

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years ago and you know the the records
are not there or the institutional

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knowledge of people not knowing where
things are or not knowing what sizes

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things are.
It's really difficult

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especially when you don't have record
drawings or anything to fall back on and

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the guys that installed it all
they were tired or gone on

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it's a challenge challenge
tren [clears throat]

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while you standing there u you probably
heard this before coming from me

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you working with them all 119 all the
way throughout, right?

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» Yes, sir.
>> And you know, have we not see any

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additional way of widening 119?
>> So, that'll be a different project.

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[clears throat]
>> Okay.

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» Okay.
>> What we've been doing is consistently

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requesting
>> we have

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» DOT

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actually we've been requesting
every [laughter]

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has some passing lanes on especially
crossed

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and you really can't get around anybody
if somebody

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» because actually they will get out there
and run past a school bus that's stopped

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and that's making it real dangerous.
Um, Chief Hagen told me they're going to

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install cameras on the school buses
>> so it will take your picture if you

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» Okay. So, December of 27.
>> Okay.

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» One other question for him. Chairman,
explain Tibet road to me. When you come

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off of Dun Levy, when you go into in
front of Bakerton Church, when you get

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up there, how is that going
>> coming off Dun Levy? Um, you'll still be

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able to go
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and then continue.
>> So, there will be a stop sign there.

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» Yeah.

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There's a portion of 119 that's going to
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development.

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Everything coming up is going to come
down the new roadway to Tibet road and

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have to make a left or a right. Now to
get to Riceboro off of Dun Levy, you'll

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have to go through the fourway and then
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I think some of those final marking.

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[clears throat]

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Let's see it all.

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Okay,
>> I take you up on that. Any other

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questions for these gentlemen? Uh that's
project is very special to us. It's our

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first bypass.
>> U and of course with the traffic that we

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have now going through our community. We
looking for anything to help to relieve

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that because that's just a part of it.
We got phase one is what you all doing.

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We got to work toward getting phase two
done so it's a complete uh bypass for

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some of the traffic going through here.

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» All right. All right.
>> Good time

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to come out.

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» Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you,
gentlemen.

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» All right.
>> Some of you, Mr. Murray.

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Good evening, board of commissioners.
Good evening, everyone. Larry Murray

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here, youth coordinator for uh Liberty
County. Um under the leadership of Mr.

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Joseph Mosley for seven years. I've been
doing this for eight years now under

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leadership of Mr. Jo Joseph Mosley for
seven years and Miss Lisha Hunter for

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year one. I mean, this her year, this
her first year, so we've been working

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well together. She's been pushing me as
well, too. So, to take this thing to

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another level. And so, um really quick,
I just want to thank y'all for

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acknowledging my mom giving her
proclamation. We I didn't realize that

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we were going to be in the same building
today. She We were at breakfast today

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talking about it, but I didn't realize
we were going to be here together. So,

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[laughter]
we walked up here today. So, I thought

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it was pretty cool. So, shout out to my
mom. 44 years of education.

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» Be on your best behavior.
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. [laughter] Oh, yeah.

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I'm always on my best behavior. She had
no issues at me. She never had any

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issues at me.
>> But yeah, she's the reason why I'm even

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doing these these things today.
[clears throat] So, I um I thank her for

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the push and I just thank uh the
community for backing it up. All right.

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So, I'm here today to present some
certificates for our summer youth

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employment program uh from this year.
And we just want to thank everybody that

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participated uh this year and helping
out and taking an intern because that

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mean a lot. They were they were able to
grow. They enjoy themselves. Um and

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they're looking to come back next year.
All of them want to come back, but I

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know that means we got to try to figure
out some some way to, you know, um make

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it happen. All right. So, first we got
tax commissioners office right here. Um

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tax commissioners, y'all here today? We
want to present you with the

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certificate. Y'all come on. Y'all y'all
take the certificate.

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We have Alexis and voters registration.
They're here. They're here as well, too.

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» Thank y'all again. Thank y'all so much.

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» EMA
here.

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» Mr. Mr. Murray, let them all stand. Let
>> all we'll take a we'll come down after

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y'all everybody get to me. I'll just
make a There you go.

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» Look at the camera.
>> Uh assessor's office.

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» Assessor's not here.
it.

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» Oh yeah, he's ready. Look at him. Look
at him. [laughter]

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» Look at him. He ready today.
>> I was wondering why he had on that tie.

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[laughter]

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» I love it. Keep Liberty. Beautiful.
>> Oh, yeah.

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» Um, recreation department. I think I
about to say I saw him. Come on.

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» Finance department.

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» No.
>> You want to stand next to your sister?

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[laughter]

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» Chamber of Commerce.
>> Probably at some other meeting office.

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communications. Y'all, this just shows
that we have a lot of support here,

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y'all. They're not here, but it's okay.
DA office, district attorney,

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» diversity help. No, she's not here.
>> Highville housing authority.

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» No,
extensions office. Poor

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» child support services.
>> We had a lot of help this year. City of

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Clemson,

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» city of Midway, [clears throat]

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City of Walkville.
>> Yay.

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» In the house.
>> All right. Had to.

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» They all enjoy themselves.
>> They they winding down dying to turn

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that. [laughter]

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» Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
>> She said now she said that that's the

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best intern that she's ever had. So that
was that was amazing to hear. So

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» you put it [laughter]
all. All right. So that's all the That's

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all the recognitions for um our mentor
for for our summer employment program.

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So I guess we're going to take a
picture.

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» Let's come down commissioners and
join

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» this apicious group.

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Everybody pull one of these like to the
side. Hold

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[applause]

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the back for you. [laughter]

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» [laughter]

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» You want me to start off with you?

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» We thank all them for making an
investment in our young people.

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Look for the fruit thereof.
>> Barely.

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» You service update, Miss Hunter. And
>> yes, sir.

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» Yeah, there he is.

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» Commissioners, um we would like to do
our um annual youth services update for

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Liberty um County Youth Commission and
the summer um youth enrichment

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employment program. And I just want to
say as my first year um working with the

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program, I think it has been a huge
success. One thing that um we need to

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mention about the summer employment
program, we had more mentors than we had

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students this year.
>> Wow.

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» And so that is a win. Yeah.
>> And so we're excited about more

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participation. We had um we could not
even place the number of students that

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some of the mentors wanted. Some some
some asked for as many as four. And so

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we were able to do three for some, but
numerous. And and so if you were able to

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attend the um graduation, you saw that
they did real work. They put in real

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work this summer. [clears throat] And so
I just wanted to again thank everyone

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for their support. Thank everyone for
their participation. And we look forward

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to kicking off a brand new year. And I
turn the presentation over to Mr.

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Murray. and I just wanted to acknowledge
him for all the hard work that he has

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been putting in and um efforts made to
take the program to the next level.

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» Thank you, Mr. Murray. [applause]

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» All right, so I'm going to be brief um
summer employment program. We go ahead.

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» Okay, I got

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» All right, so our summer employment
program program overview. All right. So,

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our mission is to provide summer
employment opportunities for local youth

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ages 14 to 18. All right. So, our goals
include skill development, workforce

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experience, community engagement, and
the program runs annually each summer

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since 2016. All right. Partner with
multiple county departments. So, like

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again, we thank y'all. We appreciate
y'all for supporting us this year.

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All right. So, our 2024 season, so we
were able to come up with some data um

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that we can um present to you all from
2024 to 2026. All right. So, 24 we

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launched and expanded partnerships with
county departments and serve 23 uh

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students and participants across 12 work
sites. All right. So that's when that's

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when we started off I mean that's back
in 2024 we introduced structured

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workshops on workplace etiquette and
professional development. And in 2025 we

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grew enrollment 20 by 27 participants.
We added smart goals and envisioning

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workshops team building activities and
enhanced facilitator training. So we

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invited more facilitators to come and um
help us out when they come in on Mondays

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for their training. And we strengthen
community engagement through guest

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speakers. So we bring in guest speakers
such as 4 and different people of

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finance to come teach different things
like that to help them grow. And then

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jump into 2026. Uh this year right here
we we were able to serve 29 youth and we

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had new initiatives. So we included
leadership cohorts, project based

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learning and expanding partnerships with
local business and businesses and

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nonprofits. So, we were able to have
more support like Miss Hunter said, we

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were to have more um support this year
and well, we had more mentors than

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students this year. So, that that was
amazing. I thought that was pretty

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pretty cool. All right, so here here's
the data right here. Um we have

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applications have grown steadily. So,
everybody's hearing about it. And when

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we started off in 20 well, not when we
started off, but in 2024, uh we were at

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we grew by we grew by 23 applications.
So, we had 3 applications

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that by 23
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let me make sure I say that right. Yeah,
we had 35 in 2024 to 74. Yeah. So we

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grew to 74 applications
>> um in 2026. So from 2024 to 2026 we went

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from 35 to 74. There we go.
>> And and and that shows that everybody I

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mean youth need something to do. You
know they they they need training. They

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they wanted they actually in the
interview process they wanted to get a

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job. They get out the house, you know
what I mean? Some of them they said

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their parents made them, but I mean, but
they got something from it. They really

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did. I mean, they came in here and they
was excited about each thing that we

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have for them each day.
All right. So, interns by age. All

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right. So, age 15 is is the largest at
26%. And then while ages 14 and 17 are

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equal represented at 23% each, age 16
accounts for 20% and age 18 is the

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smallest group at 8%. All right? So,
that's reflecting diverse participation.

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all eligible ages. So like again like we
said from 14 to 17. So

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I believe yeah we went from 14 to 18. So
we even had we had 18 we had two 18 year

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olds that participated in the program as
well too. So they were able to come in.

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Matter of fact we had a guy that um he
participated for five years with us. So

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yeah. So he he wanted to come each year.
So um he even though he had other jobs

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he was still coming in here getting that
training from us as well too. So we

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still deem this as very important to
him.

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Now interns by gender. Now female
interns represent 65 program

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participants while males intern make up
35%. So this highlights strong female

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participation and that reflects the
program's inclusive outreach across

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Liberty County.
Right. So some key program insights. So

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we had a steady increase like like we
mentioned before. We had a steady

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increase in applicant interest from 2024
to 2026. We had a consistent hiring

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aligned with program capacity. Um
balanced age distribution ensures wide

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youth engagement, strong female
represent representation um um

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reflecting inclusive outreach and then
growing community support for youth

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development. So these are key program
insights right here for our summer

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employment program. And then now we're
going to jump into our Liberty County

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Youth Commission. All right. So, this is
our impact and growth report right here

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from 2024 to 2026.

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All right. So, with our Liberty County
Youth Commission in 2024, we had 12

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particip 12 participants. So, that was
eight, we had eight young ladies and

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four young men and that grew as you can
see by the [clears throat] chart right

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here. So, in 2025,
we had we went up by four participants.

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So, we had 16 participants, 14 young
ladies that grew. They they just started

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coming in, you know, the word started
getting out. We started doing a little

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bit more outreach and we have 14 young
ladies and two young men. And then in

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2026, we grew a little bit more as you
guys can see right here. In 2025, we we

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grew by 33% and then in 2026 we had 17
participants, 15 young ladies and then

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two young men. So we're trying to get
the young men up in here. You know,

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we're trying to get them trying to get
them enrolled in here. And then so this

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shows that um participation grew by 41%
since 2024. All right. So that shows

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that we retention and growing engagement
reflecting a strong foundation and

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expanded impact across county.
All right, so our demographic break

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break down by grade level. So in 2024 we
had two ninth graders, four

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[clears throat] um 10th graders, uh
three three juniors and three seniors.

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So we had a total of 12
participants in in 2024. In 2025, we

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didn't have any nth graders, but we had
six 10th graders, five 11th graders, and

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five seniors. And so we had 16
participants and then in 2026 we didn't

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have any more nth graders again like I
said and then five five 10th graders and

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five five juniors and seven seniors. All
right. So this report right here shows

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00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,800
that juniors and seniors represent 71%
of 2026 youth commission. So

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00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,240
highlighting strong upper classman
participation in leadership. So we our

427
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,720
upper classman they were taking charge
the whole way. You know they were

428
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:03,200
excited about coming in and they were
coming in consistently. I mean I think

429
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:08,640
it was because of food. So, so we have
food, we provided food from East here to

430
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:11,839
the board of commissioners. Um, and I
believe that food piece right there,

431
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,839
that's
>> feed.

432
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,079
Yeah, they they need the food,
>> food and community.

433
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:25,040
» So, the key takeaway right here, our
youth commission is engaging students

434
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:31,040
across multiple grade levels with steady
growth in strong senior participation,

435
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:35,680
driving leadership and impact.
All right, so community partnerships and

436
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:39,200
local impact. So in 2024 through 2026,
we were able to organize blanket uh

437
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,440
drives and jacket drives for community
members experiencing home homelessness

438
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:48,000
and serve as active volunteers during
the annual walk for the homeless events

439
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:52,640
in both 2024 2025 with another chance
another chance outreach ministries. Um

440
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:56,000
the CEO is right here obviously Urban
White. So we were able to coordinate

441
00:48:54,160 --> 00:49:02,160
that with him and um do those drives for
the homeless. And then in 20 2024 2026,

442
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:07,839
our youth commissioners were able to um
partner with the life side empowerment

443
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:11,520
uh to uh serve as academic mentors,
assisting youth with homework and

444
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:16,480
educational support.
And in 2024 to 2026, they volunteered on

445
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:20,640
site to prepare serve prepare and serve
hot meals to local families for the mana

446
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:24,720
house. So they've been very active and
this this is just a portion of our what

447
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,599
they did, but they did a lot more than
this. All

448
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,240
right. So, civic engagement is state
level advocacy. All right. So, we we

449
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:39,920
take annual trips to the to the state
capital. Um in 2024 and in 2025, we were

450
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,920
able to collaborate and join with the
city of High School Youth Commission and

451
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,200
collaborate, you know, collaborating
networking with the Fton County Youth

452
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,880
Commission, Youth Commission. Shout out
to uh Commissioner Fraser for setting

453
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:54,319
that up for us. We were able to, you
know, get them engaged and, you know,

454
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:59,040
get them networking with different
youth. So, I I think that's very

455
00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:03,359
important. All right. And in 2026, we
continue regional partnership with Joint

456
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,720
Capital Vist alongside alongside Fton
County Youth Commission. All right. So,

457
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,640
the youth, they look forward to the
state capital trip every year. We we we

458
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,240
take the charter bus. We go up here.
Like I said again, I mean, we travel in

459
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:18,240
luxury. They enjoy the experience. They
even talked about spending the night,

460
00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:21,920
but we like we get there. We get there.
All right. So, we're empowering you

461
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:26,559
right here. Direct engagement with state
leaders and legislative processes.

462
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,119
Thank you. All right. So, we want to
thank you for your support. Seriously,

463
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:32,640
we want to thank you for your support.
Um, board of commissioners for allowing

464
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,280
us to be able to have these programs
right here with our summer employment

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00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,079
program and our Liberty County Youth
Commission. I believe we're going to

466
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:44,359
grow it each year. I mean, you see that
the steady the steady increase every

467
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:44,359
single year. So, thank y'all again.

468
00:50:45,130 --> 00:50:49,200
[applause]
I

469
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:53,920
» I would like us, Miss Hunter, to to
investigate this this whole male versus

470
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,119
female thing. Is it the same with the
city of Heinesville and Riceboro? Let's

471
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,520
look at that.
>> Let's look at that.

472
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:11,359
» All the populations had
>> and then secondly, I was thinking maybe

473
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:15,359
could is there some opportunity for
synergy with Liberty County working with

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,160
Riceboro working with Hinesville, the
three groups working

475
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,680
» doing some kind of
>> Yes, sir. Yeah. Um just so you know we

476
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:24,480
have discussed that with the two of them
and they're open to [clears throat] that

477
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:28,559
in terms of us um we said the first
thing we do we have a meeting regroup

478
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:34,160
and see what our opportunities are and
then um the other thing is even with um

479
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,280
Chattam County um we have a um long
established youth commission right there

480
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,280
in Chattam County and when you ask the
youth what they desire what they want

481
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,160
they will tell you be prepared and so
that's one thing they said is that we

482
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:49,975
would like to see what other youth
commissions are doing so they're looking

483
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:53,680
for that engagement also And so the um
[clears throat] one thing about the trip

484
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,040
to the capitol, it wasn't just a visit.
We want everyone to know that they

485
00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:02,000
toured the capitol, they engaged with
legislators, and they went over to Fton

486
00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:07,440
um youth commission and they had a
debate. They had to prepare and they

487
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:12,640
experienced a debate on certain issues
that was set up with them. So it was

488
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:17,760
work put into it. So um but u I would be
remiss not recognizing the entire team

489
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:21,680
that helped all of this flow. And so we
Mr. Larry Murvy who is the youth

490
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:26,880
services coordinator but then in terms
of the applications and helping with the

491
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:31,960
calendar institutional knowledge we have
Miss Laura W she would please stand with

492
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,960
HR.

493
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:42,400
We have Miss Jessica who is on the team
and doing work. Stand up.

494
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:47,680
And I want to say the backbone that
holds it all together. the students, the

495
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:53,720
meals, the paperwork telling us what we
supposed to do and when we supposed to

496
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,720
do it as Miss Monica Ratcliff

497
00:52:54,166 --> 00:52:56,186
[applause]

498
00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:01,440
commissioners, thank you for the support
because we talk about infrastructure and

499
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:05,599
you know your people are your greatest
asset but when you rest in youth that is

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00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,231
also development and your infrastructure
in the future. Thank you.

501
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:11,251
» Thank you all.
[applause]

502
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:19,599
I didn't know
A few of the kids were

503
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:23,839
kept on by their um
respective agencies for employment at

504
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,720
heard.
>> Also, you're a validictorian and

505
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:36,920
» validatoran both. There we go.
>> You commission

506
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,920
at Liberty both of shuts now.

507
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,440
So the deadline is August 12th. Right
now we have a couple applications in but

508
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:49,119
I do have the ones that participated in
the previous years. I had them engaged

509
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,119
already. So they're already they had got
the applications in. I totally get in.

510
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:57,119
So we already have about a hub of like
12 already that's ready to come in. And

511
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,960
then I even got an email yesterday about
a parent want to get their child in. So

512
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,920
I mean they're hearing about it. They
want to get in. They want to be a part.

513
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,280
» Let's work on that young men thing. I'm
kind of concerned about that. Yeah. We

514
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:10,480
need to get more at least 50/50. You
know

515
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:15,440
» that's a goal. We'll go.
>> Mr. Chair, sir, I I don't know if y'all

516
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,599
were taking questions or not, but
>> you ready, Mr. Murray? How you doing,

517
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:22,480
sir?
>> Uh, first and foremost, I I guess Miss

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00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:28,720
Hunter, you know, she she she said the
protocol, you know, uh not just you, but

519
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:34,160
the entire team. I I appreciate y'all uh
taking on this this heavy task and and

520
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:40,480
delicate task, which is our our our
youth. Uh yeah, man. Y'all have been

521
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:45,520
doing an awesome job, you know, uh, and
this program has been growing ever since

522
00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:49,760
we have, you know, implemented. And I
guess that was just a small snippet of

523
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:56,160
the, uh, statistics, you know, that was
just from 2024, but it just shows the

524
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:59,760
the engagement between us as from the
county, and I appreciate my fellow

525
00:54:57,839 --> 00:55:05,280
commissioners supporting this. uh y'all
know how dear this is to my heart, but

526
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:10,640
also with with the community once they
really found out about the program and

527
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,760
and and the different uh parts, you
know, not just the youth commission, but

528
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:18,240
the summer internship program. And like
you said, some of them have been able to

529
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:23,599
stay on with the county from being
initiated in this particular program.

530
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:26,720
So, it's not like they are, especially
now, definitely now, it's not like

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00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:31,040
they're they're putting the youth in the
corner and just, you know, telling them

532
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:36,240
to just do some busy work. They really
are being engaged. And just like you

533
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:41,200
said, uh Justin, our our Yeah, he
graduated and still stayed on to be a

534
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:46,559
part of this program this year, wi-i,
which is is phenomenal. Um but then also

535
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,400
I I guess the question that I have uh
whenever you're looking at these numbers

536
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:54,240
from the applicants versus hired and I
know the chairman asked that question as

537
00:55:52,400 --> 00:56:02,160
well about doing a more of a
collaboration you know to make sure that

538
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:09,680
because at from 2024 whenever you know
we had 35 applicants and we hired 23. Uh

539
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:15,440
but in 2025, if y'all noticed, the
increase in applicants was much greater.

540
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:22,079
It was 62 applicants, but we were only
able to hire 27. And then of course this

541
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:28,160
year we had even more. We had 74 and we
hired 29. So I guess the question I have

542
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:34,079
uh for you all in the future, how how do
we how do we narrow that gap? Because of

543
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:39,280
course, you know, we all have different
programs. Uh I I don't know how many I

544
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:44,880
don't know the statistics with the city
of Riceboro about how many applicants

545
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:47,599
they have with with how many they're
hiring and vice versa with the city of

546
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:51,920
Hansville.
>> But I know I think the city of Riceboro

547
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:56,480
this year they had what 30 if I'm not
mistaken. And Hansville had do you

548
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:59,680
remember the numbers?
>> 47.

549
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:05,520
» They had like 47. Right. So, I I guess I
guess what I'm getting at is if if we do

550
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:08,880
more of a a collaboration to make sure
that some of these kids and we we don't

551
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,119
know some of these kids might have
applied for here and also, you know, uh

552
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:18,480
the city of Hansville. We don't we don't
know that. But the point is, you know,

553
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,880
giving our youth the opportunity, you
know, because and I'm glad this this was

554
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,640
done because, you know, a lot of times
we hear all the negative about our youth

555
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:32,400
in this community, but just to know that
we do have have a lot who are stepping

556
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:35,359
up and and and because of you all and in
the [clears throat] team with Liberty

557
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,839
County. So, I appreciate that. But if we
can look at like what the chairman said,

558
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:44,079
you know, what you commission, you know,
to try to balance the, you know, the

559
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:49,280
diversity with that, but more
importantly to just make sure that that,

560
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:52,559
you know, we're able to to hire more
kids, especially if we're saying that we

561
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:57,520
have more mentors who were asking for
positions. So, I guess what what do

562
00:57:55,119 --> 00:58:00,400
y'all need from us? Money.
>> That's I mean, that's the only way we're

563
00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:04,880
going to be able to hire hire, right?
>> That's absolutely right. Because we do

564
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:09,119
pay the internship. So I I guess if we
could look at in the future narrowing

565
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,319
that gap, I guess the only way we could
do it is with financial support from

566
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:16,319
from the county and the county
commissioners. So thank you all again

567
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:19,640
for everything y'all do.
>> Thank you, M.

568
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,280
» All right. Financial report. Speaking of
money.

569
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,760
» Oh, Larry, I'll see you in the morning.
First day.

570
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,160
» First Presbyterian.
>> Oh, okay. Let me start tomorrow.

571
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,920
» Uh good evening, Mr. Chairman,
commissioners.

572
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:43,839
» Good evening.
>> I'm here this evening to present the May

573
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:47,760
2026 financial statement.
Uh starting with the general fund

574
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:53,520
through the end of May, we have
collected already 100% of our projected

575
00:58:50,880 --> 00:59:00,480
revenue
and we have spent approximately 86% of

576
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:08,319
our total expenditures for the year.
We currently have 6.6 months in our

577
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:15,680
unreserved fund balance compared to a
year ago we had right at six months. So

578
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:23,520
it's a it's an increase from last year.
Turning over to the departmental report

579
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:27,680
for budget to actual. Um we have a a few
that are still showing over over budget

580
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:35,760
through May.
um elections has a small variance. Um

581
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:41,119
however, this this was covered by um the
revenues received for our municipal

582
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:47,520
elections. Um so it it pretty much is a
wash. Actually, it's a more revenue than

583
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:52,720
it is a loss. Um Superior Court, we
always pay those um law, library, and

584
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:56,960
other operating expenses in July um
upfront. So that's going to show over

585
00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:02,880
budget every single month until we get
through June. Um the road department, we

586
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:08,640
mentioned previously uh for some
equipment repairs

587
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:14,960
and recreation for um part-time and
seasonal employees.

588
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:21,920
Turn the page to solid waste. Um through
the end of May we have approximately

589
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:26,480
1.1 million of revenues over
expenditures.

590
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:34,960
We have collected 93% of our total
revenues for the year and spent right

591
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:43,240
around 71% of our total expenditures.
Um there are currently no departments

592
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,240
showing over budget for solid waste.

593
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:54,240
I I just have one question about the
solid waste. Uh I I know we we reset the

594
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:58,480
fees and we said it was going to be uh a
few years before we

595
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,280
» it balances out. Correct.
>> Correct. Yes.

596
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:06,000
» So, but this is not a year though, is
it?

597
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:09,040
» I mean, we're uh it's we're collecting
more for sure, right?

598
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:14,160
» The increasing the assessments and the
the rates that are charged by solid

599
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:18,799
waste. Um We haven't fully recovered um
from our previous you know where the

600
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:20,960
general fund had to support solid waste
>> right so

601
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:26,920
» years ago
>> what what year are we invest years

602
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:32,400
» we're anticipating
>> what year should we turn it around

603
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,839
» right
>> I thought she was going to turn it

604
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,760
around
>> I don't think fully in this uh rate

605
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:43,040
study that we've done I don't think we
fully get back to zero it just steadily

606
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,839
increases each year so we can pay the
general fund back.

607
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:49,240
» Following up on that question, how do we
what's the word?

608
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,520
» How do we compensate for that or how do
we

609
01:01:54,799 --> 01:01:59,599
» difficult
>> when it come when it comes to

610
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:03,599
accounting? What do we do? because
you're right. It was years of

611
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:08,240
» Yes. And and we were told then that we
probably

612
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:12,400
» um I really think it's prevalent for a
lot of different counties um that have

613
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:18,400
solid waste collection and
>> um are in a similar boat than we are.

614
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:23,359
» Um if we feel that we can't pay back the
general fund then we might just have to

615
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:28,240
do you know a transfer um just to get
rid of the debt if there's no way

616
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:33,040
possible to repay it. Um even though the
solid waste fund intends to and fully

617
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:37,280
intends to um if it's just not possible
then we might have to do a write off of

618
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:40,319
some it all sir.
>> That's what we did years ago.

619
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:46,000
» So you're looking for like a timeline or
when if that happens can can we look in

620
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:49,680
the crystal ball and say it could
probably happen in year five year six

621
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:53,680
anything like that?
>> Um I think we should start looking into

622
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:58,720
writing a little bit off every year.
>> Okay. Okay. Um we we're sitting

623
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:01,040
currently I think at 3.9 million that
they owe back to the general fund.

624
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,799
» That's a lot.
>> Um when I first started almost four

625
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,920
years ago, it was right at 3 million.
>> Yeah.

626
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:11,920
» So it's not hugely more um but it's it's
not going down for sure.

627
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:17,039
» And I mean another thing that we can't
predict is the repairs to his uh

628
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:21,839
Clinton's equipment and things that go
down that are unanticipated. Um also

629
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:26,319
increase expenses each year.
>> Do you Mr. Chairman, do you is that

630
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:32,480
where you see the most expenses at is on
the equipment or is it the amount of

631
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:35,520
trash that's being dumped at these
convenience centers?

632
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:42,760
» Um,
the largest is salaries, but I think

633
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,760
what is that vendor?

634
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:50,000
Just like
>> Oh, what? You're paying to haul it out

635
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:52,720
of
>> haul it out. We have a contract that

636
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:57,280
hauls the trash from the transfer
station

637
01:03:54,240 --> 01:04:00,960
and that's that's a big expense on a big
expense.

638
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:06,160
» When we did the
fee recalculation, did did we allowed

639
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:09,680
for the increase he's talking about
also?

640
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:15,200
» We did.
>> Were we on target or were we

641
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:18,720
» is it more than what we budgeted for?
Well, we never when the solid waste

642
01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:22,000
assessment was done, I don't think there
was enough money ever figured into it

643
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,839
» to pay the county back to
>> downtown

644
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:30,160
figured enough in there so we could chip
away at it.

645
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,760
» But you wanted to pay back that money.
>> Yeah.

646
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,280
» It's going to hurt.
>> Yeah. [laughter]

647
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:37,680
» On the assessment and what we would have
to charge people and

648
01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:43,039
» all that good stuff.
>> Okay. you know, county run for a long

649
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,599
time without assessments and just trying
to fund it through general fund.

650
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:49,839
» Okay.
>> That's how we got where we're at.

651
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:53,039
» Okay.
>> Come out and everything. We try to make

652
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:57,039
all that work. Trying to chip some of it
down, but

653
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:59,680
while you're standing, sir, how's your
equipment?

654
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,640
» Equipment's good. That's why I'm here
tonight to replace one. We We're trying

655
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:05,119
to keep it up, keep everything replaced
and keep it going on the sanitation

656
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,740
side. You
>> able to keep up with your the mowing?

657
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,760
No, I'll be back next mid month
[laughter]

658
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:20,079
of year.
>> Mr. Chairman,

659
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,000
» Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes, sir.

660
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:25,440
» Mr. Mosy.
>> Yes, sir.

661
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:30,839
» Do you care to elaborate on the uh
status of the uh Limick

662
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:36,240
» Limick uh landfill?
>> I can I do it on my report? I do have it

663
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,079
in here.
>> Okay. All right,

664
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,359
» Frank. I And I'm glad you kind of
mentioned that because because what I'm

665
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:47,520
saying is and I know we did the new
assessment,

666
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:51,039
» but prior to to us having a transfer
station, we had a landfill, which

667
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:54,880
obviously we don't have that anymore.
So,

668
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,559
» we still have we still
>> Exactly. It's just not active or

669
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:02,319
whatever you want to say.
>> And they tell you you close it and

670
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:07,680
you're after 30 years they release you.
They don't release you,

671
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:12,160
» right? Yeah. Yeah. But uh I I I guess
I'm

672
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:16,960
But you were saying a couple years ago
we were at three and now we're at 3.9.

673
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:22,599
So So we're going opposite way.
>> I I know we looked at even with the fees

674
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,599
with the uh

675
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:29,039
the you know the big
>> the hauling bins.

676
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:32,960
» Hauling bins. Yeah. The dumpsters.
>> Did we increase all that? The problem

677
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:35,359
with the assessment there for a while is
we didn't increase it. There was no

678
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,039
money
>> I remember

679
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:43,119
» to say every year we're going to go up
to 3% or 4% or whatever the public

680
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:47,760
charges us
>> that it was never stuck in there. Now

681
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:53,960
the last time we've done it we made
every year it's an increase to try to

682
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,960
keep up.

683
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,039
» So you improve your assessment
>> you improve your processes.

684
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:02,480
» Okay.
>> When we they first had the assessment it

685
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:07,119
wasn't built in there.
>> Yeah. You know, we didn't change it, but

686
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:11,520
for five, six years, whatever commission
decided to

687
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:17,520
» hire Coberson to redo the study. So,
that put us five years back behind right

688
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:22,319
back. So, I thank you. I thank your
comment about uh doing the graduate

689
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:26,319
write off is in order.
Another organization I had to do that

690
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,599
same kind of thing for that reason.
Otherwise, it's going to keep showing

691
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,119
up,
>> right?

692
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:33,520
» Yep. And I believe that really it goes
back to when Miss Mclofflin was here. It

693
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:36,160
does.
>> We We had that.

694
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:41,280
» It's always been here.
>> It's Yeah, it's always been there.

695
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:43,280
» Good idea to try to pay back. But
>> Yep. Yep.

696
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:46,319
» But in the meantime, let's just make
sure that our fees are where they need

697
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:49,599
to be, you know, so that we don't get
behind when it comes to

698
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:54,079
» when we done the last study, it was put
in there for yearly increases.

699
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:57,440
» Okay. Okay. I remember that. Okay.
>> Right. Right. The only thing I was

700
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,440
saying, Mr. here. You know, at the end
of the day, that's a enterprise fund.

701
01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:06,160
So, that's supposed to be separate and
being able to maintain

702
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:10,160
» by itself. And if that's not being the
case, we

703
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:14,359
» it's okay for us to re-evaluate and and
and see which way we need to go.

704
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,759
» All right.
>> I guess that's enough trash talk.

705
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,839
» Thank you, Mr. Wills.
>> All right.

706
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:32,640
Um moving on to the sales tax reports
for sales tax 7. Uh in the month of May

707
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:38,319
we collected 1.2 million.
Um we have spent 30.8 million in SPLAS

708
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:44,799
expenditures.
Um of our total 42.8 million that we've

709
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:48,239
collected.
the next report including

710
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:53,120
» when is it time for the next loss
reporting to the public kind of report?

711
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:56,880
How often is that required to be done
here? Just one time a year or

712
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,799
» the one time a year by law state?
>> Oh yes sir.

713
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,600
» Have we done it for 2026?
>> It's by December 31st.

714
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:06,480
» Okay. Okay.
>> Let's just make sure we announce that

715
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,199
when it done so the public can know they
can access that. Okay.

716
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:11,839
» Yes sir. Once we get a little further in
the audit

717
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:19,920
» and concrete
>> numbers. Thank you. Uh the next report

718
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:24,560
is the T-spos report and this is just
being included for um project tracking

719
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:31,359
purposes
and the report subsequent to that is our

720
01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:38,080
T-spos 2 report. Uh we received our
first um distribution from the state in

721
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:43,199
the month of May. Uh it was just shy of
1.1 million and um we're off to a pretty

722
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:50,199
good start.
Uh we will continue to collect this tax

723
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:50,199
through March of 2032.

724
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:59,760
The last page of your packet I've
included a summary of floss um that the

725
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:05,040
county has collected and distributed
through um through May.

726
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:12,640
And the county share of collection
through May is 2.8 million of the total

727
01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:15,920
4.6 million collected.
And that concludes my presentation for

728
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:21,360
May. Unless you have questions.
>> You may want to educate some off members

729
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:28,239
of the audience about what floss is.
>> Floss is um a sales tax that was

730
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:34,800
approved on the November 2025 referendum
um that is strictly to be used to apply

731
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:40,719
directly to um the general funds
operating budget to in lie of property

732
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:46,480
taxes. So, it has to 100% be applied um
to offset property taxes. So, the state

733
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:52,400
originally um told us we had to collect
it for a year before we're able to use

734
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:58,000
it and distribute it. Um but they
recently um have changed the law to

735
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:04,159
allow allow us to colle to recognize
anything we've collected through June um

736
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:10,159
into our current upcoming millage um and
digest calculations. So, it will it will

737
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:14,640
we'll have five months of of help um
this digest and then next year we'll

738
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:18,760
have the full 12 months.
>> Make sure everybody clear on that.

739
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,320
» We look forward to that.

740
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:29,520
» I think questions everyone in Liberty
County are looking forward to it.

741
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:35,920
» Right. I I just have a quick question to
uh Mr. Long. I can't see. Okay.

742
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:39,040
Oh. Uh, since we're talking about SWAT
projects,

743
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:42,239
he's next on the agenda.
>> Yeah, I know. But okay.

744
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,920
» Let him come on and do it all in.
>> There you go.

745
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,920
» Thank you, M. Smith.
>> All right.

746
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:54,239
» Yes, sir. Get want to get your question
in. There we go. Before you

747
01:11:52,239 --> 01:12:00,159
» uh
wonder start.

748
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:03,199
» So, uh, sales tax is not on any one of
my agenda items. So you want to go ahead

749
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,679
and answer that question kind of as a
tail end to hers. I'll be

750
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:08,560
» okay.
>> Yeah.

751
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:12,159
» So ask me the question again. I want to
make sure I understand.

752
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:16,400
» Uh the uh live vote.
>> Yes sir. We have a contract executed

753
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:21,199
with contractor. Um we had anticipated
that he was going to be here last month.

754
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:24,320
» Uh when we were delayed in executing
contract with him, he took a couple of

755
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:28,080
school projects
>> finishing those school projects up so

756
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:30,880
the school could get started. And so I'm
hoping in the next couple weeks he

757
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,880
should be there. Okay.
>> But we are constantly calling him and in

758
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:39,679
contact with him to make sure he's
getting going.

759
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:45,199
» All right. [clears throat] Uh
and I contract do we have a we have an

760
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:48,000
end date, right, that he's [snorts]
supposed to

761
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,600
» That's right. And I don't remember what
the starting date.

762
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,480
» Okay.
>> I do have it written down, but I just

763
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:57,280
don't have stored up here.
>> That's fine. I It was just on my mind

764
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:02,400
when she started talking about
>> No, I'm glad you asked. So, um, I'll

765
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:07,640
make sure that when I'm back up here on
the 20th, I we have all that done

766
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,640
together.

767
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:13,679
» Okay. So, I have two items on the agenda
tonight. The first one is deed to

768
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:17,440
dedication of the roadways in Habsham
development. Um, which is roadway

769
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:21,360
subdivision that built a couple years
ago. The warranty periods have expired.

770
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:25,520
Uh, we've taken them over for
maintenance and accepted them. Uh, so

771
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:29,840
the only thing that we haven't done is
accepted a deed to dedication. Um,

772
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:35,199
packet. Everybody should have a copy of
the dedication which describes the

773
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:38,760
roadways um that
gives us this

774
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,920
make sure we have the roadways. We've
already accepted them as far as the

775
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:49,239
final plaque goes and just need your
action to go ahead and accept the deed

776
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,239
of dedication.

777
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:54,520
Commissioner Blunt, this is in your
area. You want to take the lead on that,

778
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,520
sir?

779
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:02,000
» The writer work for H Plantation.
Make

780
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:05,199
» a motion we move forward.
>> Motion to second we move forward as

781
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:08,000
presented. I heard any further
discussion. All in favor, show hands,

782
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:12,960
please.
>> I do.

783
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:18,159
» All right, Mr. Law. Thank you very much.
The second item I have on the agenda is

784
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:22,560
u applying for a grant for water
infrastructure.

785
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:25,040
water infrastructure planning program.
I'm going to give you a little bit of

786
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:29,280
background and make sure that everybody
understands what we're looking for and

787
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:34,480
what we're trying to do. Um, you know,
for last several years, we have really

788
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:39,440
looked hard as a county as to how we're
going to provide water and sewer to the

789
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:43,760
county. Not just our service delivery
area that city that Liberty County has

790
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,360
in county, but you know, the other
cities and municipalities within the

791
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:50,719
county. We've had a planning group that
we've met for the last couple years

792
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:55,120
trying to figure out how to do that. Um,
we've got some technical ideas of how to

793
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:59,246
do it. Um, we have the technical
expertise around here to try to make it

794
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:03,280
happen. But one thing we've
[clears throat] found is we don't know

795
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:11,120
the model that it really needs to look
like. Are we bunch of individual uh

796
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:17,920
water and sewer system going head first?
Are we a community pulling together

797
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:23,840
within sort of
authority? I use that term lightly.

798
01:15:21,679 --> 01:15:30,320
Where do we fall? And you know, we we've
been unable to put our hands on that

799
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:34,880
process. Um, and we've had several
meetings uh to discuss it. We've

800
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:39,280
actually u gone out and got some
proposals from some kind

801
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:45,199
they're engineering firms but they're
more uh planning firms that have

802
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:53,199
knowledge in this business on how do you
get from a bunch of individuals

803
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:57,440
water sewer systems to providing
uh water and sewer to our communities

804
01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:01,760
and to our
citizens in the area because you we're

805
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:07,040
really strapped with water and sewer
availability. Um we're really strapped

806
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:13,760
with the amount of water we can withdraw
out of the aquifer. Um we have a lot of

807
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:18,080
permitting things that are fluid. So the
water and sewer planning commission

808
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:25,120
planning the water and sewer technical
committee for the water council.

809
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:32,239
Sorry I'm struggling to say the right
words. Um, what we recommended doing was

810
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:38,400
hiring a consulting firm that can help
us walk through that process, meet with

811
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:42,800
us and help us decide what's going to be
best for us because it's not going to be

812
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:46,880
just Liberty County deciding. It's going
to be the city of Hinesville, city of

813
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:50,480
Riceber, the city of Walterville, city
of Midway, city of Flemington, city of

814
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:55,600
Gum Branch. We all need to kind of come
together on how we're going to handle

815
01:16:52,400 --> 01:17:01,120
water and sewer for our community. So,
We have the opportunity with a very

816
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:06,719
wellqualified firm. Um
we also have a new program that JEA has

817
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:11,600
put out. It's a um called the water
infrastructure planning program. It's a

818
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:16,080
grant up to $250,000
with two or more communities in it. 150

819
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:20,640
for one community. Uh in this case,
we're looking at multiple communities uh

820
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:27,280
going after it. It is due at the end of
this month. Uh, and what we would like

821
01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:31,520
to do is apply for this grant and this
county would be the lead on it since

822
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:37,199
we're kind of the seat, the county seat
and we have all the cities with

823
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:42,000
underneath us. Um, there is a 10% match
and we're also applying for maybe some

824
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:46,800
seed grants. Um, or we're looking at
other options to try to fill that gap

825
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:52,560
with that 10% uh [laughter] that we have
to have, which is would be $250,000, not

826
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:58,000
200 250,000
total, $25,000 match.

827
01:17:56,754 --> 01:18:00,239
[clears throat] Justin, you have to
catch me if I say the wrong thing again.

828
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:05,280
I apologize.
>> I'm I'm tracking.

829
01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:10,400
» So, um, we're looking at trying to get
funding for all of this. So, but the

830
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:16,080
county needs to be the lead agency in
the application for the project. Um, so

831
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:21,840
what I need is the county's permission
for us to move forward as the lead for

832
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:28,960
this application to Jifa for the grant
funds 250,000.

833
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:33,120
» Questions for Mr. Long.
>> Have one question. You may you may have

834
01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:37,920
mentioned it. Um,
this would be a countywide

835
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,480
your technical group and whatever.
You're [clears throat] looking

836
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:43,280
countywide, not just in a certain area.
>> Yes, ma'am. We're looking countywide.

837
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:46,560
» Okay. That's what I
>> We're trying to make sure it's a

838
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:50,080
holistic of how are we going to serve
our citizens.

839
01:18:47,679 --> 01:18:55,840
» Okay.
As um community leaders,

840
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:01,120
the time has come in our county for us
to work as a collective body when it

841
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:06,640
comes to water and sewer. We can no
longer continue to plan long term to be

842
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:14,320
individual providers.
>> Long terms, it needs to be a a joint

843
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:16,960
venture countywide. So, it's maybe maybe
a slow trip getting there, but if we

844
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:21,760
never start, we'll get we'll never get
there. So, so

845
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:26,800
um
the $25,000 match, I mean, I would think

846
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:30,719
that we could we could all get together
and do that. I believe we could,

847
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,840
» but you need permission to go ahead and
and apply for the grant with the

848
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,199
county's lead agent.
>> Okay,

849
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:40,719
» that's what we need.
>> Who's we have several of us cities and

850
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:42,880
counties that are moving 90 miles an
hour down the wrong path trying to get

851
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:45,880
something.
>> Yeah.

852
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:51,760
» For the same good.
>> And you're right, that's something that

853
01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:56,320
that the experts do not. We may have
ideas, but that's not our pay grade. We

854
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:00,239
have the technical ability to do the
work with engineers that are here, but

855
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:02,239
we need somebody to kind of help us
>> pull it together.

856
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:06,560
» Okay,
>> Mr. What's your pleasure?

857
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:11,360
» Mr. Chair, again, I'm I'm in support of
it, but uh you know, we've had this

858
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:15,600
conversation about like I said, you
know, we have the technical committee

859
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:21,120
and I think Mr. ODM remember as well
>> when we used to meet with the the the

860
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:26,000
water resource council
>> and and and I remember we suspended our

861
01:20:23,679 --> 01:20:31,440
meetings years ago because you know
other municipalities were kind of doing

862
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:35,920
their own thing and again I don't is are
we back together? Y'all back y'all are

863
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,840
I'm just not a part of it. It's fine. I
just want to make sure that y'all doing

864
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,679
it.
>> No policy.

865
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:46,800
» There's a policy and a technical
>> Yeah. Commissioner Frasier, they had to

866
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:49,280
You're right. Committee had went defunct
and was

867
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:53,280
» I reception.
>> Listen, that that's what

868
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:56,880
» I'm I'm I'm used to not not being on
policies committed.

869
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,800
» I'm on it.
>> Yes.

870
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,239
» Okay.
>> And I would have to serve with the

871
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:06,480
chairman of it, but I tell you what, I
can be term limited.

872
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:10,159
» Well, originally whenever you you became
chair, that was one of the

873
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:14,640
» hand it off. and you handed it off to me
and and I I held the torch until the the

874
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:19,120
torch went out.
>> But

875
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:23,120
I I guess y'all y'all lit the match back
up.

876
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:27,920
» But but but either way, again, whenever
we we discussing water

877
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:32,080
and I know you didn't want to use that
water authority, but you know, that's

878
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:35,040
what most I know in the state of
Georgia, that's that's where a lot of

879
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:38,560
people are going. And more importantly,
they it's more of a regional concept

880
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,421
with that, too. So,
>> and there are more models out there

881
01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:44,000
other than just an authority
[clears throat] that you know we need

882
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:48,320
help
>> to figure out what fits for us

883
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:51,840
» because we need to find what fits for
us. We don't need to find what fits for

884
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:56,480
everybody else fit for us.
>> And I'll say this and I um some of the

885
01:21:54,480 --> 01:22:02,639
smaller cities that have taken on a lot
of debt concerned about what happen if

886
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:06,320
we all come together as one big do we
pay each other's bills or how does that

887
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,480
part happen? So, we got a lot of
>> working to get through. I I remember

888
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,639
that was
>> difficulties that was one of the

889
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,120
» complexities
>> that was one of the issues.

890
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:16,239
» Yeah.
>> With policy.

891
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,400
» Remember this is this issue kind of woke
itself back up at the planning retreat

892
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,960
last year.
>> Right.

893
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:26,880
» Right.
>> Good. All commission chair take a

894
01:22:24,719 --> 01:22:30,320
request a motion.
Do we serve as the lead agent for the

895
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:34,080
funding?
>> I'll make that motion. Chair.

896
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:36,639
» Is there a second? Commissioner Blunts
make the second. Any further discussion?

897
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:41,199
We look forward to it. All in favor,
share your hands, please. Uh, if should

898
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,440
we get the grant? Any idea what the
timeline? I know it's probably too early

899
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:46,080
to ask you that.
>> Yes, sir. They won't announce in for a

900
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:53,280
couple months.
>> Okay. September.

901
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:57,840
» No, it's it's August. Yes, it's it's due
at the end of this month, so

902
01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:02,400
» it probably won't be until
November, December.

903
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:06,320
» You think we look good for
>> I think so. Yeah, when I look at the

904
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:12,159
criteria and we're looking at multi
cities doing it getting together for it

905
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:15,880
and we've gone through the quality of
based selection for

906
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:24,480
» so and I think we'll be a step ahead by
having some of these task accomplished.

907
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:28,520
Thank you for your leadership in that
sir.

908
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,520
» Thank you

909
01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:34,360
holiday extravaganas presentation.

910
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:46,280
Samantha Mr. Steven Rachel Smith I see
some young folks.

911
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:46,280
» Y'all gang up on us tonight.

912
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,920
» Hello.
>> Hey.

913
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,639
We got support.
>> Good evening, ladies [clears throat] and

914
01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:08,798
gentlemen of the Liberty County Board of
Commissioners. My name is Samantha. I am

915
01:24:05,540 --> 01:24:13,280
[clears throat] here with the whole team
[laughter] that our committee um and

916
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:19,520
then we also have here our director
Raymond Gross and Mr. Ricky Gillard. Um,

917
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:23,600
so we are looking to host a holiday
extravaganza for not just Liberty

918
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:29,040
County, but also the surrounding
counties around us. This will take place

919
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:35,440
on December 12th from 5 to 9 in the
evening at the James Brown soccer

920
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:40,719
fields. Um, we are just looking to do
something big for the community, include

921
01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:47,440
the kids, include sports, include the
chorus, just have a whole extravaganza

922
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:51,360
as we're calling it. Um, the way that we
anticipate getting funds for this is

923
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:55,840
that we're going to be selling booth
spots. Now, this is a change on the

924
01:24:53,600 --> 01:25:03,920
handout that you all have. We did lower
the price and we do have

925
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:09,679
options. So, for $25 that will cover a
blue spot for nonprofits,

926
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:14,960
$45 for profit and county and city
departments, they are free. We just ask

927
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:22,719
that they either provide a holiday
activity or a holiday style um

928
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:27,920
what
>> activity or a giveaway. Yes. Um we also

929
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:34,320
are going to look to have sponsors. We
have four different tiers um between the

930
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:38,400
prices of $250 up to $1,000. Um, our
sponsors, we have a list of them

931
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:43,679
already, but we are looking at the big
companies here in Liberty County and the

932
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:47,840
surrounding counties, small businesses,
but also anyone that's looking to give

933
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:53,040
to the community in some way for our
holiday extravaganza. We will be

934
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:57,600
reaching out to you all as well.
So, if you do see one of our smiling

935
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:04,000
faces, please do give us the time. Um,
our activities that we look to have are

936
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:07,040
pictures with Santa, the chorus or
chorus performances. We're going to

937
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:11,120
reach out to two or three different
schools to see if they can provide our

938
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:16,400
chorus to sing at least two or three
different songs with holiday themes. Um,

939
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:21,440
we also are going to have a live DJ and
a snow party.

940
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:25,600
We are going to have an outdoor movie.
And then our biggest one that we're

941
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:29,600
going to have is our fireworks show. We
did meet with the fire marshall to get

942
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:35,600
approval for this, which he said that
was okay, but we do still have to submit

943
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:40,400
our plans for it. Um, we will have food
trucks and also a free beverage

944
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:46,080
concession. Um, the food trucks, we're
only looking to have five spots and they

945
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:51,120
will pay $80 um to be a part of our
extravaganza.

946
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,639
» That is all that I have.
>> That's a lot.

947
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:57,040
» That's a lot
>> question for this ambitious group.

948
01:26:55,170 --> 01:27:01,120
» [laughter]
>> Uh you you think the uh parking is going

949
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,719
to be sufficient?
>> Yes, sir.

950
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:07,760
» Have a good turn up.
>> Yes, sir. Although we will have to block

951
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:15,199
some parking off. We can use some of our
grass space. Um there is a map that is

952
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:19,280
attached on the back here that shows
where we will be roping off some area,

953
01:27:17,199 --> 01:27:23,920
but the rest of it is open for the
public to park in.

954
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:27,120
» How about I'm just thinking out loud.
parking assistance. You think

955
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,880
everybody's going to behave and park
where they need to park or you gonna

956
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:33,840
have to have some parking marshals kind
of people out there?

957
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:38,560
» We will have security and we are going
to reach out to the Heinesville Police

958
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:43,520
Department to um assist us with that.
>> Mr. Giller, you want to add something?

959
01:27:41,675 --> 01:27:49,600
[laughter]
>> We will provide at LIT um and then we

960
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:53,120
can transfer over to the event.
>> Okay.

961
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:55,520
» All right. All right. How are you going
to market this?

962
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:58,960
» So
>> marketing plan

963
01:27:57,199 --> 01:28:03,520
» besides for our beautiful committee
doing word of mouth marketing, we are

964
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:06,960
going to push it hopefully through the
um through the newspaper as well so

965
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:11,520
people can see it and on our social
media. Um we feel as if all of us do

966
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:16,000
have some sort of presence on social
media to where we can get this out for

967
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:20,440
free.
>> Are you plan to work with the chamber at

968
01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:20,440
all?

969
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,840
» Yes. Yes, we do. Um, Miss Chantel was
just telling me we also are going to

970
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:29,520
work with the radio stations to put this
out.

971
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:33,040
» Okay. And the chamber has people go to
look at the chamber's calendar a lot of

972
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:37,679
time for advance. So, make sure it's on.
>> Yes, sir.

973
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:40,639
» What you need from us to bless it?
>> Yes.

974
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:43,880
» Commissioners, any question before we
bless it?

975
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:50,800
» Obviously, they appreciate y'all uh
being innovative.

976
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:56,080
Look forward to December the 12th.
>> The 12th. Yes, sir.

977
01:28:53,199 --> 01:29:00,719
» Firework show will start at 8.
>> And it already seems like we Well, we

978
01:28:58,719 --> 01:29:06,719
haven't voted yet, but I'm assuming they
support it. But just uh for FYI, they

979
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:12,560
did run it by the uh rec board as well
and it was uh a unanimous support. So,

980
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:18,800
just let y'all know.
>> Good to hear that.

981
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:21,120
» I'm not sure. We need to vote. Um,
is it just

982
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:23,840
» I think it' be a good idea.
>> You think it would be a good idea?

983
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:28,560
» She entertain a motion to approve the
presentation from the aircrd

984
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:30,639
subcommittee of the committee on holiday
extravaganza.

985
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,681
» Move, Mr. Chair.
>> Second.

986
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,320
» First annual.
[clears throat and laughter]

987
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:41,440
Any further discussion? All in favor,
show hands, please. All right. Thank you

988
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:44,840
so much. We look forward to it.
>> Have a good evening.

989
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:54,320
» When you come deep, man, you Yeah,
[clears throat]

990
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:59,600
» keep powerful.
>> Looks good to you. All you guys being

991
01:29:55,679 --> 01:30:03,600
together looks good. Looks good.
>> We need to go to public hearing, Miss

992
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:08,800
Marty. Chair a motion to go in public
hearing for reszoning.

993
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:13,120
» So move second.
>> Phrase your move. All in favor, show

994
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:16,719
your hand, please. All right. Okay. You
make proceed.

995
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:22,480
» Good evening, commissioners. Chairman,
I'm here to present uh two petitions,

996
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:27,840
one for resoning and one for conditional
use. They are number 2026-25

997
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:32,719
LC and 2026,
excuse me,-26

998
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:40,159
LC. The zoning request was submitted by
Zachary Gilstraat to reszone 5.29 acres

999
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:45,600
from A1 and AR1 to C3, which is highway
commercial, for a contractor's yard for

1000
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:50,400
moving, transport, and hauling services.
A conditional use request has also been

1001
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:55,440
uh submitted for the contractor's yard.
The property is located on Leroy Coper

1002
01:30:53,040 --> 01:31:00,880
Highway in unincorporated Liberty County
and it is in district 4.

1003
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:07,360
The public notification what was in the
paper and posted on the sign

1004
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:12,159
and the vicinity map. So, um, this is
not too far from the intersection with

1005
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:18,880
Coastal Highway and it's not too far
just north of Fleming Loop.

1006
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:22,159
A little closer.
This is the property here. A couple

1007
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:25,719
years ago, this parcel and the one next
to it were cleared

1008
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:35,440
the zoning map. So, this parcel right
here is also zone C3 and it is a fencing

1009
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:40,880
contractor's yard. Not too long ago, the
county reszoned this parcel here to

1010
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:45,679
industrial one for a concrete plant. And
so we are then looking to reszone this

1011
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:52,239
to the same as this one as C3. Currently
the front part of it is the AR1 and the

1012
01:31:48,159 --> 01:31:56,400
back part is A1.
The future land use map does show the

1013
01:31:54,400 --> 01:32:00,880
front. There's a mixeduse urban
corridor, I'm sorry, mixeduse rural

1014
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:05,760
corridor along both sides of Leroy
Kofheer Highway and then beyond that is

1015
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:11,040
agricultural forestry as a future land
use for this area.

1016
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:17,600
There are no wetlands on the property
nor are there any flood zone hazards.

1017
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:22,400
The track that we're talking about, the
5.29 acres is part of a subdivision

1018
01:32:20,239 --> 01:32:30,960
along Leroy Kofer Highway. This is the
last one. Uh track A in subdivision.

1019
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:36,400
So the narrative submitted with the
resoning application is the proposed use

1020
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:40,239
for all 5.29 acres would be to store
commercial vehicles, containers, and

1021
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:44,560
equipment for moving, transport, and
hauling services. The equipment would

1022
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:47,760
look look like some of the following. So
you have a moving van here. You have

1023
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:52,080
another piece of equipment here. Quite
honestly, I'm not sure what that is. Um

1024
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:56,000
you have a storage container, some
excavation equipment. Um, all the

1025
01:32:54,400 --> 01:33:01,480
vehicles on the property would be
operable and would have a dumpster on

1026
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,480
site for trash collection.

1027
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:13,560
Ran out of slides. Oh, there you go.

1028
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:44,560
Can he drive it or
>> I can work off of this. It's just not as

1029
01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:47,679
large.
>> So, the concept plan, sorry, it won't

1030
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:52,639
fill the whole screen.
>> Um, so Leroy Kofheer is right here. They

1031
01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:57,040
uh they will pretty much be using the
entire limits within some boundaries uh

1032
01:33:55,120 --> 01:34:01,280
with buffers around the outside. There
is an existing culbert here that they'll

1033
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:05,199
be utilizing and then uh pulling in a
gravel road off of that. The front part

1034
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:09,440
will be where a dumpster will be kept
for the trash. And in this area will be

1035
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:15,520
parking for the other equipment
associated with the business.

1036
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:20,000
This is Kofheer looking up towards I'd
say it's about a mile from Coastal

1037
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:25,840
Highway looking north.
and closeup of the property that as it

1038
01:34:22,719 --> 01:34:29,120
looked uh last month.
They have recently I notice I drive by

1039
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:32,080
there every day. They did have some
equipment in here doing a little bit of

1040
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:37,920
clearing, but that's how it looks today
from the other side of the road.

1041
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:41,679
So, going through the zoning analysis,
does this property have reasonable

1042
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:46,960
economic value as currently zoned? Yes,
it does. The the proposed use conforms

1043
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:51,360
to the Fort Stewart joint land use
study. Um, does a proposed use conform

1044
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:55,760
to the Liberty County comprehensive
plan? Yes, it does. The comprehensive

1045
01:34:53,440 --> 01:35:01,120
plan identifies a future land use as
mixeduse rural quarter and egg forest

1046
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:05,520
forestry in which C3 is a compatible
zoning district.

1047
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:09,600
Will there be an adverse effect on the
value and usability of nearby

1048
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:13,679
properties? No, there will not. Is the
proposed use suitable in view of nearby

1049
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:19,040
uses? Yes, as I pointed out, there is
another contractor's yard very close by

1050
01:35:15,679 --> 01:35:23,440
and then that future concrete plant um
just up the road. Will the zoning

1051
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:27,199
proposal create an undue burden on
transportation and on schools,

1052
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:33,040
utilities, or the provision of public
safety? This won't be a site really that

1053
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:38,639
um that customers come to. It'll just be
employees of the business and G dot will

1054
01:35:36,159 --> 01:35:43,600
have to approve the entrance for the
site.

1055
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:48,000
Will this allow a short-term gain at the
expense of our local long-term goals?

1056
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:51,440
No, it will not. Would this cause a
domino effect? Yes, very likely. In

1057
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:56,000
fact, this is probably one of the
dominoes that has already been started

1058
01:35:53,199 --> 01:36:00,159
by other resonings in the vicinity.
Are the unique historical sites which

1059
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:03,920
may be adverse impacted? There are none
noted.

1060
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:08,560
Is this parcel of a flood hazard area?
No, it is not. Is it spot zoning and

1061
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:12,800
unrelated to the existing pattern of
development? No, it is not. and there

1062
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:18,080
are no unique conditions which support
approval or denial.

1063
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:21,840
That takes us through our resoning
analysis. And now I'm going to move on

1064
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:26,639
to the conditional use criteria for the
contractor's yard. You shall not

1065
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:30,560
adversely affect the economic values or
physical appearance of the neighborhood

1066
01:36:28,159 --> 01:36:35,520
or areas surrounding the site or lot in
question. No, it will not have an

1067
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:38,800
adverse effect. The use shall be
consistent with the comp plan and with

1068
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:43,199
the purpose intent of the land use
district. Yes, as is mentioned in the

1069
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:47,920
zoning reasonzoning analysis, the comp
plan identifies this property as

1070
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:52,880
mixeduse rural quarter and uh egg
forestry in which the zoning and is uh

1071
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:57,280
comp compatible zoning district and
misuse is allowed in that district.

1072
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:00,800
The establishment, maintenance or
operation of the use shall not be

1073
01:36:58,639 --> 01:37:06,239
detrimental to or endanger the public
health, safety or general welfare. No,

1074
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:10,320
it will not be detrimental.
This will not create an undue burden on

1075
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:13,760
transportation, schools, utilities or
provisions of public safety. This was

1076
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:18,159
also addressed in the zoning analysis.
No, it would not create an undue burden.

1077
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:22,320
The design shall minimize adverse
physical and environmental effects on

1078
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:26,880
adjacent properties, including adverse
visual effects. Buffer zones were

1079
01:37:24,639 --> 01:37:32,000
necessary to shield any adverse factors
shall be considered.

1080
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:35,199
This um this was one of the main ones
that was up for discussion when it was

1081
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:39,600
before the planning commission was the
adverse visual effects. And so to

1082
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:43,760
minimize these adverse effects, the
property shall have a 20-oot vegetative

1083
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:47,520
buffer and six foot high opaque fence
along property lines.

1084
01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:50,960
Additional space for parking,
landscaping, and adequate measures for

1085
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:54,880
ingress and egress shall be considered
if necessary to protect adjacent

1086
01:37:52,719 --> 01:38:00,080
structures or lots from any adverse
impact. No additional space is needed

1087
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:03,119
for those items.
This was before the planning commission

1088
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:07,520
last month. There are two separate
motions that are needed. The reasoning

1089
01:38:04,719 --> 01:38:10,480
needs to be um action on the resoning
needs to be taken first because without

1090
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:15,119
the proper reasonzoning the conditional
use becomes moot. So um the planning

1091
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:22,960
commission did recommend approval of
resoning petition 2026-25-LC

1092
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:28,239
with standard and special conditions.
The special condition is a 20ft

1093
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:33,440
vegetative buffer and 6 foot high bench
shall be required along the side and

1094
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:36,960
rear property lines.
The planning commission also did

1095
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:40,520
recommend approval of the conditional
use 2026-26-LC

1096
01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:47,920
with standard and special conditions.
And the special condition here is a 20ft

1097
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:52,480
vegetative buffer and six foot high
opaque fence shall be required along all

1098
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:56,159
property lines. Now, there's a slight
distinction between the special

1099
01:38:53,840 --> 01:39:02,480
conditions on the resoning and the
conditional use. The feeling was the

1100
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:08,159
logic was that for a reasonzoning,
should this use go away or never happen,

1101
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:13,119
it still would be zoned C3 and C3 does
allow other uses that might want some

1102
01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:17,199
visibility from Leroy Kofheer. So,
that's why the reszoning special

1103
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:21,360
condition is that that buffer and fence
have to be maintained only along the

1104
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:25,760
sides and rear. However, for the
conditional use, they felt this specific

1105
01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:29,840
use should be screened from Leroy Cover
as well. So that's why the special

1106
01:39:27,679 --> 01:39:36,199
condition would be applied only to this
conditional use and require that

1107
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:36,199
screening and buffer along all sides.

1108
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:45,199
» Explain that. Okay. [clears throat]
>> All right. One says along some of the

1109
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:48,000
property, other one says all around the
entire property.

1110
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:52,000
» Yes. The reasoning would be special
condition that anything that's on that

1111
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,360
property has to be at least re screened
on three sides.

1112
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,480
» Okay.
>> For this particular use, it would have

1113
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,280
to be screened on all sides.
>> With this particular use?

1114
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:02,000
» Yes. For this particular, it goes with
the conditional use, not with any use of

1115
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:04,960
the property. Just
>> they were to sell it off and everything.

1116
01:40:03,679 --> 01:40:07,199
It go three sides.
>> Is the petitioner here?

1117
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:12,000
» Yes, sir.
>> Would that person please come and give

1118
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:15,440
us a two-minute overview of your
project, please, sir? Hello, sir.

1119
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:18,800
» My name's Zachary Gilstra. I'm the owner
of College Hunks, hauling junk and

1120
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:23,040
moving. Now, that truck you saw is
actually what we call a junk truck.

1121
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:26,320
Holds about 440 cubic feet of
residential trash. We're kind of the

1122
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:29,440
middleman in between what something like
Atlantic Waste won't pick up and what

1123
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,080
someone won't want to take to the actual
dump. A little background

1124
01:40:30,654 --> 01:40:36,639
[clears throat] about myself. I was with
UPS for about 15 years, retired from

1125
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:39,600
there, and uh there was an owner for
College Hunks in Savannah that wasn't

1126
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:42,639
really taking care of the business. I
went ahead and purchased that a couple

1127
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:46,080
years ago. U we don't consider ourselves
just a moving company. Uh, honks

1128
01:40:44,639 --> 01:40:50,320
actually stands for honest, uniform,
nice, knowledgeable service. Our core

1129
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:53,760
values include always branding, building
leaders, creating fun, safe, winning

1130
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:57,360
teams, and to listen, fulfill, and
delight our communities. Uh, we don't

1131
01:40:55,440 --> 01:41:00,560
just talk that talk. Um, we're on the
board [clears throat] for safe shelter

1132
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:03,920
in Savannah. We use our assets for a
good. Uh, we're going to continue to

1133
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:06,960
operate our full operation in Chattam
County. Right. Right now, we can't

1134
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:11,199
afford to do much with this property
aside from turn into a contractor's yard

1135
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:14,880
and use it to stage some of our assets.
Um eventually we would seek to move into

1136
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:18,560
Liberty County. Our long-term plan is to
uh service the whole entire coastline.

1137
01:41:16,719 --> 01:41:22,719
Um and eventually, you know, at a
separate date, probably put a metal

1138
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:27,199
structure on the building. Um but uh I'm
happy to answer any of questions.

1139
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:31,840
» What about um [clears throat]
storage of combustible

1140
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:35,280
material?
>> You know, we will not have anything

1141
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:38,320
combustible, anything has anything that
can contribute, especially when it would

1142
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:41,760
seep down into, you know, water systems
or, you know, soil and stuff like that.

1143
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:45,520
We're we're not permitted and don't plan
to to store or or or have anything

1144
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:48,960
hazmat on site.
>> What about tires?

1145
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:53,040
» Tires? No tires, sir.
>> So, in the event Okay. Tell me about

1146
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:56,239
your water supply out there.
>> Uh we don't have a plan for water supply

1147
01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:59,280
right now. It's just going to be a
contractor's yard. It's probably going

1148
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:03,119
to be between, you know, five and 10
pieces of equipment. I wouldn't picture

1149
01:42:01,199 --> 01:42:06,080
this as, you know, five acres of 100
vehicles parked out there. And don't

1150
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:09,600
picture this as an area we're going to
go abandon equipment where it's going to

1151
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:13,840
kind of get ugly. um you know to say the
least. Um eventually um I was very in

1152
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:17,600
particular when when Trent was speaking
kind of hearing about the you know plan

1153
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:21,920
for the uh county to eventually have a
joint you know water commission you know

1154
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:26,080
um kind of really lending an ear toward
toward that eventually we probably

1155
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:29,600
install um a sewer system there um
that's you know probably three to five

1156
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:34,400
years down the line but right now it's
just going to be to park assets um if we

1157
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:37,280
have to go um have a move team that's
going to go start from that point have

1158
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:40,400
an established move captain park his
personal vehicle there and take that

1159
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:43,199
vehicle south to Brunswick or somewhere
further down the coast instead of Hilton

1160
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:46,480
Head. That's going to be more of a drop
off point now that eventually would seek

1161
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,880
to probably, you know, build something
on there, make our permanent home in

1162
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:53,360
Liberty County.
>> And you going to stand by your word?

1163
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:55,600
» Yes, sir.
>> Okay.

1164
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,280
» So, you're going to have portlets?
>> I'm sorry.

1165
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:59,440
» You're going to have portlets out there
for the

1166
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:02,080
» Absolutely. Absolutely. Got have
somewhere to go to the bathroom, but

1167
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:06,880
right now we don't have we don't have
the money to put in put in, you know, a

1168
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:10,560
full sewer system, a water system. Um so
this time probably three to five years

1169
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:14,320
just just a contractor yard very basic
operation and then full plans would come

1170
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:17,040
later um you know once the business has
enough money to you know do

1171
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:19,280
» how did you identify Liberty County?
I'll bring you in.

1172
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:22,960
» Yeah, go ahead. How'd you identify
Liberty County?

1173
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:25,840
» Um I was at Angie's Diner uh with a a
pastor

1174
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:29,040
» and we were kind of sitting down and and
going back and forth between what's you

1175
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:32,159
know what what's going to help grow the
business, what's going to help build

1176
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:37,119
leaders and looking at really um the
best geographical point. Um we were um

1177
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:41,280
far away from 95 or too close to 95 is
going to be expensive for the uh company

1178
01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:45,520
and uh Leroy Coffer Highway just proved
to be a nice pivotal point uh with a

1179
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:48,880
cost-effective solution. So um it really
is going to help us serve between the

1180
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:52,560
Florida Georgia line and Hilthead which
is our territory and it's a perfect

1181
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:55,840
middle ground to grow um into Liberty
County and also grow north and grow

1182
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:59,440
south. So geography,
>> where's your Savannah location?

1183
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:03,360
» Uh it is in Garden City. It is 810
Talmage Avenue. So right by Pooler. How

1184
01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:08,400
long have you been there?
>> We've been in that warehouse now for two

1185
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:11,679
months and we've been in Pooler for
before that for a year and a half.

1186
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:15,440
» You expanded it rapidly.
>> We are. We are. I've every every dollar

1187
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:18,800
that we made, I've invested into new
trucks, new equipment. Um and it's it's

1188
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:22,560
been a great experience.
>> Wish luck.

1189
01:44:19,679 --> 01:44:26,080
» What's your employment size? What's your
employment size?

1190
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:29,760
» Uh right now we're at 16 uh employees.
Um eventually when we we come here, when

1191
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:34,320
we expanded to coastal Georgia, we'd
probably seek to hire again. And this is

1192
01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:39,360
early at least 10 to 15 people when we
move into the county.

1193
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:44,400
» So when you collect at this site in
Liberty County on 196

1194
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:48,159
and it gets piled up, where would you
take it then?

1195
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:50,239
» Uh and this we're not going to have any
kind of trash.

1196
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:52,719
» Okay. I just want to make sure
>> just the equipment.

1197
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:56,560
» Yeah. This is [clears throat] just just
for truck storage right now. Um we don't

1198
01:44:54,960 --> 01:45:00,320
tend to keep just just to expand on on
that. Even in Garden City, we don't tend

1199
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:04,719
to keep lots of trash on on site. stuff
comes back. We back two trucks up. We

1200
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:07,679
separate metal. We separate plastics. We
separate usable furniture. Store that

1201
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,560
stuff for free for different people in
the community.

1202
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,760
» All right.
>> How many people have seen college

1203
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,960
hauling our trucks, green and orange
trucks? Anyone seen that?

1204
01:45:14,639 --> 01:45:20,560
» I don't remember.
>> Probably haven't. I don't remember.

1205
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:24,719
» Yeah. But it was good to have you
indicate though bring you that because

1206
01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:27,840
we look for people to come to be comm
community partners. So I kind of heard

1207
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:29,840
that from you. So we look forward to
that too.

1208
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:34,480
» Thank you. joining that chamber, all
those kind of things. Yeah. And you

1209
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:40,280
retired. You said you retired.
>> Uh retired from UPS. Also retired.

1210
01:45:36,239 --> 01:45:40,280
Full-time police officer. Central.

1211
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,768
» Where's your driver license? What's your
ID? [laughter]

1212
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:52,880
» Christian Blood.
>> I got a couple of questions. Um if you

1213
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:57,600
were to look at your concept plan and
all it uh you got to show a gravel road

1214
01:45:55,360 --> 01:46:05,520
coming in area for parking your dumpster
and stuff and all uh in this 5.29 acres.

1215
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:10,159
We just call it 5 acres. Um you're I
know that area very well. So uh when you

1216
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:14,080
put in this gravel road, you're going to
create water that's going to have to go

1217
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:18,320
somewhere. I don't see no design here
for any retention ponds or anything like

1218
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:21,760
that to control your water. And where do
you think your water's going to go?

1219
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:25,760
» Uh, that gravel road shouldn't be
shouldn't raise be raised too much. That

1220
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:29,280
property is already above all the other
properties around it. So, right now, I

1221
01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:33,440
think water already trickles off that
property to my understanding.

1222
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:36,960
» Yeah. Well, it I mean, according to a
person that had some opposition against

1223
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:40,960
you, it uh they coming whoever cut the
timber off of it many years ago before

1224
01:46:38,639 --> 01:46:44,639
you owned it. you know, uh, he's
complaining about water come on his

1225
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:48,000
property and there's some neighbors that
say a few things, but I mean, when you

1226
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:52,080
go in and like you just said, the place
is a little bit higher than existing

1227
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:55,920
properties. So, when you start putting
in gravel, that dirt's not going to soak

1228
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,719
up nothing. So, you're still going to
have water that's going to run

1229
01:46:57,119 --> 01:47:02,320
somewhere.
>> Go ahead. I'm sorry.

1230
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:07,119
» It uh So, I mean, I don't It's going to
go to somebody's property. Uh, I know

1231
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:11,519
they gonna have a a vegetated buffer
around it. you're going to have a

1232
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:15,280
privacy fence or something around it.
[clears throat] Um, I'm just curious,

1233
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,920
maybe need to think about this in the
future. You got to do something with

1234
01:47:16,719 --> 01:47:21,600
this water. You probably have to put in
a retention pond or something and

1235
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:25,440
probably car it at least until
everything is basically flat and all it

1236
01:47:24,239 --> 01:47:28,560
I mean, you talk a little bit higher,
but it's basically flat. It uh that

1237
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:32,080
water's got to go somewhere. I'm going
to recommend it you need to take it out

1238
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:34,960
to state highway to the ditches where it
can get out of there and not put it on

1239
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:38,320
someone else.
>> That will probably come in the phase

1240
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:41,119
when we could attempt to, you know,
submit construction plans and stuff like

1241
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:45,199
that. There'll have to be a retention
pond. Right now, we're not seeking to

1242
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:48,639
raise that at all. The gravel road is is
something that so when we when we pull

1243
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:52,480
in there, vehicles don't don't get
stuck, right? Um, but we don't seek to

1244
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:56,000
raise we're not seeking to bring bring
dirt in and fill it up like if it was a

1245
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:58,080
marsh or was lower. So, we're really not
seeking to raise that property at all

1246
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:01,199
right now.
>> So, in that parking area, any of that

1247
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,040
going to be gravel or that's just going
to be dirt?

1248
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:06,480
» That's just going to be dirt right now.
Again, we're not going to put, you know,

1249
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:10,560
you know, 50 to 100 vehicles out there.
This is probably going to be between 10

1250
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:15,679
10 to 20 vehicles.
>> You've been paying attention to that. Um

1251
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:18,480
how wet it gets at times and everything,
how soft that ground gets.

1252
01:48:17,119 --> 01:48:22,000
» It's hard to see all the way in the
back. Um as someone alluded earlier,

1253
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:24,960
we've even had contractors come and uh
you know, bit out clearing that actual

1254
01:48:23,679 --> 01:48:29,440
property. And some of them wanted to
drive in back just to see how, you know,

1255
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:32,960
how the property fluctuates. Um I've
been told from the previous owner that

1256
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:37,840
that property when it does flood is is
is above the rest. Um the plans that

1257
01:48:35,679 --> 01:48:42,560
I've seen show that is is above rest and
it does not flood. But I can't say that

1258
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:46,000
with complete confidence that
>> let's change our words a little bit and

1259
01:48:44,239 --> 01:48:49,920
instead of flood let's it's going to
pond water you know at uh at some given

1260
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:53,199
point. Um you're say [clears throat]
you're not going to haul in dirt, but I

1261
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:56,560
mean I know the area well enough that
it's if you don't do anything other than

1262
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:59,840
just go in and grub it and clear it and
kind of level it up. It uh there's going

1263
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,159
to be some pond and water in that area
right there.

1264
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:05,199
» Again, I can't I can't speak to
specifics on that right now because I

1265
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:08,639
just I haven't looked that far into it.
Right now, we're in the phase of just

1266
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:11,440
purchasing it, reszoning it. Um, I'm
happy to bring that back to the

1267
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:17,040
commission though after I do further
further research on that, sir.

1268
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:20,159
» Okay. Just wanted to bring them concerns
out. I'm on the zone analysis. I see

1269
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:24,719
where you're going to have to follow G
dot approval and all for the entrance

1270
01:49:22,239 --> 01:49:28,800
and stuff. Um, whatever they recommend
with probably XL and DL lanes or the

1271
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:32,159
width of the driveway, whatever they
going to require. Um that little

1272
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:34,480
driveway that's there right now is
probably just a residential driveway.

1273
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:37,600
» Correct.
>> Yeah.

1274
01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:40,400
» Um so we got everything laid out pretty
good. I'm still concerned about this

1275
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:46,800
water. I
>> Mr. Philumm

1276
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:49,360
come to the microphone please. Sir
had to

1277
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:53,961
» go through your agency with your chair
first.

1278
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:56,320
» That's going to be a charge. Chairman
[laughter]

1279
01:49:55,119 --> 01:50:00,239
» you [snorts] here commissioner?
>> Uh commissioners. Thank you. Did that

1280
01:49:58,159 --> 01:50:02,960
come up for discussion at your meeting?
>> Question on drainage.

1281
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:05,119
» Yes, sir.
>> That is an engineering question,

1282
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,280
» right?
>> We're in a zoning question.

1283
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,840
» Right.
>> You can't do your engineering till you

1284
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:13,199
do your zoning.
>> Understand?

1285
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:17,280
» So, I hear Commissioner Blunt's
concerns. That was concerns we had at

1286
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:20,639
the planning commission. and they're to
be addressed at the time when

1287
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:27,360
engineering when he goes and gets his G
dot approval. Then something simple as

1288
01:50:23,679 --> 01:50:33,840
cutting a tail ditch across the property
to drain into the state right away would

1289
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:37,760
solve the issue until he begins
construction. And at that time when he

1290
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:40,480
puts buildings there he would have to
have a full set and meet the storm water

1291
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:43,520
requirements.
>> Sure.

1292
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:46,000
» That was uh that's the best I can tell
you commissioner. That's the best we

1293
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:48,880
need to hear.
>> All right.

1294
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:54,000
» Anything else, Commissioner Bluff?
>> I'm good. I'm good. It uh we here for

1295
01:50:51,199 --> 01:50:58,239
the zone and I got it. [laughter]
>> What it does? So, it helps you going

1296
01:50:55,840 --> 01:51:01,119
forward that you'll know
>> what might be required.

1297
01:50:59,440 --> 01:51:04,159
» I may have overexplained our future
plans, but I don't mind doing that. You

1298
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:08,239
know, some people come up and they want
to just that that's our future plan as

1299
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:11,040
to grow in Liberty County. And at that
time, we when we go through, you know,

1300
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,560
building and development, we we will we
will seek those plans in the appropriate

1301
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:16,960
manner.
require two separate motions.

1302
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:20,800
» Two separate I'm sorry.
>> And and and just real real quick. First

1303
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:25,040
of all, I I appreciate your uh
transparency, but again, you know, uh

1304
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:30,159
just like Miss ODM said, I think we're
here for the zoning. I understand, you

1305
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:34,560
know, the farther out issues, but u
between Got and hopefully our inspection

1306
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:41,199
department, they they'll make sure that
that is all taken care of. my my

1307
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:46,800
question or my I guess not necessarily
concerned with this particular project

1308
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:52,320
but in the future uh you know we we've
talked you know from here and also from

1309
01:51:49,760 --> 01:52:00,400
a from the countywide perspective of
about our our our gateway to our county.

1310
01:51:56,080 --> 01:52:05,199
Uh, and only thing I'm saying is what
what type of identity are we looking for

1311
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:10,719
during Leroy Coff for Highway coming
into this community? I mean, are we

1312
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:16,239
looking for uh future economic
commercial type growth or are we going

1313
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:22,400
to continue to
uh have different projects like this

1314
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:26,320
going on Lero Coffer? Because I mean
that that's what she was just saying

1315
01:52:23,679 --> 01:52:31,840
about the domino effect. You know, we we
we've started approving particular

1316
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:36,800
projects like and I'm entrepreneur. I
get it where get it where you fit in.

1317
01:52:34,719 --> 01:52:40,800
But what I'm saying is our our future
when we're talking about our gateways

1318
01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:46,000
coming into Liberty County, how do we
want them to look? and and I understand

1319
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:52,880
the buffers, but
again, I just look at Leroy Coffer, you

1320
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:58,000
know, being from here, I remember how
how it used to look and now, you know,

1321
01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:03,360
there's still a lot of trees out there,
but also that's a blank c canvas that we

1322
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:09,360
as commission and also the planning
commission, we have a true opportunity

1323
01:53:06,239 --> 01:53:13,199
to create something. And I think Mr. Uh,
Commissioner Gillard said this a long

1324
01:53:10,719 --> 01:53:16,159
time ago. One day you're not going to be
able to tell the difference in the

1325
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:20,239
Liberty County line, the Bryan County
line, and Chattam County line. So, only

1326
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:25,440
thing I'm saying is, are we looking at
for now? Are we looking at, you know, 30

1327
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:32,960
or 40 years from now, which hopefully
I'm still here, but you know, and not

1328
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:38,320
just me, you know, our kids, what what
identity are we looking? And I just want

1329
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:42,560
my fellow commissioners to to think
about that whenever we doing all these

1330
01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:47,840
resonings because [clears throat]
one thing about about resoning is you

1331
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:53,280
know you know we come up with these
comprehensive plans and and we say this

1332
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:59,840
is where we going with this particular
area but then you know we come for

1333
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:06,159
resone and I' I've been there. I've I've
had to get properties res.

1334
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:12,560
But also, I just want us to be aware and
and keep a few things in in perspective.

1335
01:54:09,119 --> 01:54:17,520
You know, again, our identity. What are
we looking for? You know, I know the

1336
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:22,400
chairman have talked about our gateways
and gateways and gateways. And it's more

1337
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:28,239
than just a sign at the Liberty County
line. I mean, we could put a a a a $10

1338
01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:33,360
million sign out there, make it look
like Vegas, but if if you soon as you

1339
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:39,920
walk in, it looks like old Vegas instead
of New Vegas is is a problem. So, I'm

1340
01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:43,440
I'm just saying as as as a whole and we
just need to make sure that these

1341
01:54:41,679 --> 01:54:49,360
particular properties is the highest
best use and also we need to be aware of

1342
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:54,560
of that question about the domino
effect. So, what do we decide?

1343
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:59,679
you know, dominoes lay down and they
keep going. Long as you got another

1344
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:02,480
domino there, it's gonna keep going.
>> That's the only thing

1345
01:55:01,199 --> 01:55:05,840
» I think it's healthy that I bring up
kind of the future plans here. You know,

1346
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,800
we're we're a small business that's that
that's growing. We've already doubled in

1347
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:12,080
revenue um you know, the past couple
years. So, we're my particular project

1348
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:14,719
is going well. It might be a
contractor's yard for three to five

1349
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:18,000
years. I'd like you to think of the
long-term vision of once that's paved

1350
01:55:16,239 --> 01:55:21,040
over, there's a building there, there's
maybe another space for a tenant to move

1351
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:23,920
in and grow their small business next to
mine. So that's that's the kind that's

1352
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:28,719
the kind of vision I want, you know, I
want the board to see

1353
01:55:25,599 --> 01:55:33,199
» and I and I appreciate LCPC for the
buffer

1354
01:55:30,159 --> 01:55:37,520
» requirements. Um you got I'm not sure
how much Phil you all talked about but

1355
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:40,080
you're on one of my major gateways, sir.
And we're just trying to ensure that our

1356
01:55:38,719 --> 01:55:42,960
gateway is attractive people coming in
out of

1357
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:48,719
» county.
All right, that's all. All right, ch

1358
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:53,080
come out of a No one No one signed up to
Okay. to come out of public hearing.

1359
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:58,800
» Oh, okay.
>> All right. Motion to come out.

1360
01:55:58,400 --> 01:55:59,520
» Move.
>> Second.

1361
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:02,639
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1362
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:07,970
» Motion to go back in regular session?
>> Move, Mr. Chair. Second.

1363
01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:12,239
» Second. Monica, you got all that?
[laughter]

1364
01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:17,195
» Okay. Hold on, sir. Sir, we hadn't voted
yet. Oh, he can sit down and watch the

1365
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,195
vote. [laughter]

1366
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:24,560
» Oh, yes, sir. If you could. Two two
separate condition um decisions,

1367
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:27,760
actions. The first one reszoning and the
second one conditional use, please.

1368
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:31,679
» Mr. Blunt, I yield.
>> I make a motion. We accept LCP's

1369
01:56:30,239 --> 01:56:34,560
recommendation for approval for the
resoning position.

1370
01:56:34,239 --> 01:56:38,159
» Stand.
>> Motion a second. Miss Monica, you got

1371
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:45,520
that. Any further discussion? I think we
had plenty. All in favor? Show of hands,

1372
01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:50,080
please. opposition. All right. Approve.
Now the conditional use for the special

1373
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:53,599
conditions standard and special
conditions. Chair.

1374
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:58,560
» Yes sir.
>> I make a motion we approve the special

1375
01:56:55,280 --> 01:57:01,520
conditions used for LCPC recommendation
and all.

1376
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:04,719
» Motion to second the same too. Miss
Monica. All right. Any further

1377
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:10,080
discussion? All in favor show hands
please. All right.

1378
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:12,480
Now, sir,
>> thank you. I look forward to seeing you

1379
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:14,159
in a few years for some more.
>> Yeah, we can't help but we

1380
01:57:13,470 --> 01:57:16,719
[clears throat] can't help but watch
you. We go in and out that way.

1381
01:57:16,091 --> 01:57:20,560
[laughter]
>> Thank you.

1382
01:57:17,199 --> 01:57:23,560
» Thank you, sir.
All right.

1383
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:31,000
Resoning.
Where am I?

1384
01:57:31,599 --> 01:57:40,960
Oh, I'm down there. Okay.
Knock the light out.

1385
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:45,239
Removal of condition use requests
2026 23 LC.

1386
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:54,880
» Oh,
>> I'm sorry. It was tabled last time and

1387
01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:57,880
you need to remove [clears throat]
>> please.

1388
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:04,159
» I'll move, Mr. Chair.
>> Be second.

1389
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:07,280
Thank you.
Um

1390
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:10,000
uh I just need a little bit of a
refresher in a minute.

1391
01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:12,320
» I'm going to give you that refresher on
this application.

1392
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:16,080
» Okay. Yes. Okay.
>> Yes, [snorts] sir. So, this was

1393
01:58:13,679 --> 01:58:19,360
presented last month. You help
>> I'm sorry. So, so now that we're Okay.

1394
01:58:18,239 --> 01:58:22,719
All in favor of the
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

1395
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:27,119
» Of coming out of
being tabled. Show of hands.

1396
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,400
» All right. All right. Now, all right.
>> The gun.

1397
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:32,960
» Quite all right.
>> Okay. So this was you held the public

1398
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:38,080
for this at your last meeting. In that
time we did uh meet with Commissioner

1399
01:58:36,159 --> 01:58:42,400
Blunt and Commissioner Gillard with the
applicant. Um and the result of that

1400
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:47,280
meeting is that they have submitted
revised narrative and a concept plan

1401
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:50,560
that I would like to go over with you.
So just I'll refresh you on some of

1402
01:58:49,119 --> 01:58:56,159
these slides. So this is a conditional
use 2026-23LC.

1403
01:58:53,599 --> 01:59:02,320
It is for uh submitted by Christian
Edens and Lindseay Goff for an outdoor

1404
01:58:58,239 --> 01:59:05,880
event center at 956 Freriedman Grove
Road in Plem.

1405
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:13,840
The property I think it's about a mile
or so from the Coastal Highway Limick

1406
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:19,920
intersection here. It's on the on the
north side of the road.

1407
01:59:16,719 --> 01:59:23,679
Closeup view. As you may recall, they
were originally planning on having some

1408
01:59:21,679 --> 01:59:27,360
parking in the field here and the
outdoor events would be happening over

1409
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:34,320
here. There is a house in the middle
here. Then like I said, they have res

1410
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:40,080
revised that narrative. It is zoned A1
and AR1.

1411
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:44,000
Then is residential low density.
So if I may, I'll read the revised

1412
01:59:41,679 --> 01:59:49,040
narrative. The applicant is requesting
approval for a low impact outdoor event

1413
01:59:46,239 --> 01:59:55,119
venue to be operated on an existing
privately owned parcel on 956 Freedman

1414
01:59:52,159 --> 02:00:00,480
Road. It's approximately 20 acres zoned
AR and AR1. The property is intended to

1415
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:04,480
be used as a smallcale outdoor event
venue primarily for weddings, private

1416
02:00:02,719 --> 02:00:08,800
gatherings, photo shoots, and other
special events. Most events will be

1417
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:13,920
intimate gatherings with a maximum guest
capacity of up to 40 guests and all

1418
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:19,119
events will place outdoors utilizing the
property's natural landscape. Um

1419
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:23,199
provision to this narrative in
particular I'd like to point out is that

1420
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:27,199
originally they had said 150 guests. So
they have narrowed [clears throat] the

1421
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:31,360
scope of [snorts] the size of the
gatherings that they will allow. The

1422
02:00:29,599 --> 02:00:37,599
events will be scheduled by reservation
only and will occur on a limited basis

1423
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:42,480
rather than daily commercial operations.
We are proposing utilizing the existing

1424
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:47,040
asphalt driveway for access and one
handicap accessible parking spot. Up to

1425
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:51,280
10 additional parking spaces would be
located in a centralized area on the

1426
02:00:49,119 --> 02:00:56,480
property. Applicant is requesting a
variance or condition to allow the event

1427
02:00:53,360 --> 02:01:00,400
parking to remain unpaid.
Proposed use is expected to generate

1428
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:04,320
only moderate event-based noise typical
of private outdoor gatherings. Events

1429
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:08,239
would be limited to designated hours
with music ending at a reasonable

1430
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:12,560
evening cutoff in compliance with local
ordinances. The intent is to provide a

1431
02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:17,840
well-managed environment and minimize
disruption to neighboring properties.

1432
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:21,840
All vendors providing services on the
property must be properly licensed and

1433
02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:26,239
insured. The venue will not sell or
serve alcohol. However, clients may

1434
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:30,560
bring their own alcohol for private
events.

1435
02:01:28,639 --> 02:01:34,179
Portable restroom facilities will be
provided for events as needed based on

1436
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:37,840
the anticipated attendance and length of
[snorts] the event. All events will

1437
02:01:36,159 --> 02:01:43,199
include proper waste management and
postevent cleanup. The client will be

1438
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:48,800
responsible for preser um prov reserving
sorry portable restrooms for an approved

1439
02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:53,040
uh vendor ensuring there they are
delivered and moved in a timely manner.

1440
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:57,199
The rental contract will require
compliance with this policy.

1441
02:01:55,679 --> 02:02:02,320
Property layout allows for clear
emergency vehicle access at all times.

1442
02:02:00,239 --> 02:02:05,679
proposed use is designated to be a low
impact and compat and [clears throat]

1443
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:09,840
compatible with the surrounding rural
agricultural lowdensity residential

1444
02:02:07,569 --> 02:02:13,679
[snorts] community. The property will
offer a beautiful and convenient venue

1445
02:02:11,679 --> 02:02:20,480
for family celebrations, small
gatherings, weddings, photography

1446
02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:23,360
sessions, and other special occasions.
Part [snorts] of our discussions, we

1447
02:02:21,679 --> 02:02:29,440
talked about some possible special
conditions. Um, they've provided

1448
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:33,679
kind of how we
The conclusions we came to might be

1449
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:37,760
reasonable special conditions. Um, the
condition conditional use permit would

1450
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:41,679
be specific to the current property
owners, Lindsey Goff and Christian

1451
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:46,239
Edens, and will not automatically
transfer with a change in ownership.

1452
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:50,080
This would mean that someone else
couldn't decide they want a conditional

1453
02:02:47,679 --> 02:02:54,400
use event as outdoor event as a
conditional use and then expand it

1454
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:58,880
beyond what they have provided in their
narrative and what their intent is. Um,

1455
02:02:57,040 --> 02:03:02,960
and another special condition was
proposed parking plan will utilize the

1456
02:03:00,719 --> 02:03:06,480
existing asphalt driveway for primary
access and the parking will be

1457
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:10,480
centralized on the property and kept
unpaid in order to minimize services,

1458
02:03:09,795 --> 02:03:14,080
[snorts and clears throat]
reduce site disturbance and maintain

1459
02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:19,280
compatibility with the surrounding and
residential uses.

1460
02:03:17,199 --> 02:03:23,040
The revised concept plan, [snorts] as
you may recall, they were planning on

1461
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:27,760
having parking here. That's that field I
mentioned. And here's the house. So,

1462
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:34,400
they've revised it to have the parking
spaces up here. Uh, the UDO does require

1463
02:03:31,119 --> 02:03:40,159
one space for every uh four guests. So,
that's 10 parking spaces if they have up

1464
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:45,679
to 40 guests. And then the vent would be
back here in this area in the Oak Grove.

1465
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:49,679
This driveway is the existing driveway,
asphalt driveway to the house. And these

1466
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:54,320
other accesses here are more like the
residential dirt culvers [snorts]

1467
02:03:51,599 --> 02:03:59,599
on um that just allow I call field
access to the property.

1468
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:06,280
These
Oakrove this was a field they were going

1469
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:06,280
to use for parking but won't

1470
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:14,880
li
the house on the property would not be

1471
02:04:10,639 --> 02:04:19,599
part of the event space and we went
through the conditional use. Um, we did

1472
02:04:17,199 --> 02:04:22,400
not modify these slides for the revised
narrative because this is what we

1473
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:25,119
presented at the planning commission and
didn't feel it's appropriate to present

1474
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:28,719
something different to you in that
respect. Would you like me to go over

1475
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:30,880
these or should I just pass them by?
You've heard it all before.

1476
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:35,280
» I think you can pass this by.
>> Okay.

1477
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:38,400
Um, so this was before the planning
commission last month as you know where

1478
02:04:36,639 --> 02:04:43,760
they did recommend disapproval based on
the narrative presented with their

1479
02:04:40,159 --> 02:04:48,800
application which was the 150 people and
parking in the field. Um, so this was

1480
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:51,520
their original recommendation. It did
not go back before the planning

1481
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:55,520
commission. So you do not have an
updated recommendation from them at this

1482
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:58,920
point.
>> Commissioner Blunt.

1483
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:07,520
» Good evening.
>> Hello.

1484
02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:12,800
» How you doing?
>> Um, I know you met with uh some of the

1485
02:05:10,719 --> 02:05:17,920
planning staff at LCPC, myself and
Commissioner Gillard. Uh, went over

1486
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:23,119
this. Uh everything seems like it's in
order for you. One thing I wanted to say

1487
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:30,000
for people watching that might not quite
understand that were uh previously not

1488
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:35,520
for this. Um
I'm in favor of it after talking to you.

1489
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:38,960
Uh because if we did a lot of paving and
different things, we're going to start

1490
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:44,560
pushing water around. Uh you got a
beautiful piece of property. Um we

1491
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:48,480
looked at the conditional uses. I mean
against what you want to do and things.

1492
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:52,080
Um
everything seems in order to you that

1493
02:05:50,159 --> 02:05:58,719
we've agreed on.
>> Okay. M you want to add anything?

1494
02:05:55,280 --> 02:06:03,840
» No. Um good evening. We we did uh
Commissioner Blunt and I did meet and um

1495
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:08,719
you know our goal was to meet and hear
hear you out and you know hopefully to

1496
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:15,280
try to help you if if we could and um I
think Jeff was there, Marty and some of

1497
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:23,599
the other staff and you know we um think
you scaled down from the the previous um

1498
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:30,239
uh [clears throat] requests and um you
know I I do know um from the meeting

1499
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:35,440
that we had and the scale down version I
think we agree that it uh that it

1500
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:41,440
wouldn't create a issue. Now I do know
that u over time you know as people find

1501
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:47,280
out about it and if you get everything
up and running and hope it don't turn

1502
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:51,920
into Saturday night fever and hope it
don't um be a version of martyr where

1503
02:06:50,079 --> 02:06:56,159
there will be issues and people are
complaining about parking and noise and

1504
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:59,920
this and that and the other. If it is,
we will you don't have to revisit it

1505
02:06:58,239 --> 02:07:06,639
based on our ordinances and everything,
but um I think it was two weeks ago we

1506
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:11,199
met. Um and I don't know if um I know
the event is not approved. I mean, the

1507
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:15,920
site is not approved, but um I hadn't
heard nothing, you know, that happened

1508
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:20,639
out there since then. Never heard of
anything. So, I just felt like if you

1509
02:07:18,079 --> 02:07:25,760
just continue to do what you're doing
and stick to the guidelines that we

1510
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:30,639
talked about at the planning um office a
couple of weeks ago, I think everything

1511
02:07:27,679 --> 02:07:34,239
will be fine.
>> So, the people that come are going to

1512
02:07:32,239 --> 02:07:36,159
have to sign a contract with you for for
their event.

1513
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:41,920
» Yeah, it would be like renting the
property. So, we'd have like a rental

1514
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:46,800
» and and it says that you will the
your ship portal will be taken care of

1515
02:07:43,599 --> 02:07:50,880
by the renters. How you how you doing
water out there?

1516
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:55,199
» Wouldn't need any for for the restrooms
if they're bringing in portable ones.

1517
02:07:52,719 --> 02:07:57,440
» Yeah, but you you could um like the
portlet,

1518
02:07:56,239 --> 02:08:02,480
» they come with water.
>> Yeah, you get water with them.

1519
02:07:59,599 --> 02:08:05,920
» Not you know, not regular running water,
but a container with

1520
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:11,440
» where they could dispense water.
>> Just make that note. As your popularity

1521
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:16,079
grows, you may need a water resource
well. Okay.

1522
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:20,280
» It grows over 40. probably have to come
back before us. Um,

1523
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:28,079
one thing I've seen that I like, um, in
the event that you ever change hands

1524
02:08:26,159 --> 02:08:33,880
with it, uh, all this that we're doing
right now is nylon board looks like, you

1525
02:08:30,159 --> 02:08:33,880
know, it's not transferable.

1526
02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:40,880
» I think that was your recommendation. I
mean, you know,

1527
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:45,920
» happy to agree to that.
>> It's a beautiful place.

1528
02:08:43,119 --> 02:08:50,320
» I got one question, J. So, if somebody
comes out there to use it, they will not

1529
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:56,159
have to get a permit
uh but get a okay from you.

1530
02:08:53,840 --> 02:09:01,760
» Correct. Um if they're going to use any
vendor, they would need to use a license

1531
02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:04,560
and insured u vendor. The vendors would
they would only be permitted vendors

1532
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,960
that would be allowed.
>> What was that now?

1533
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:10,320
» They would only be permitted licensed
insured vendors that would be allowed

1534
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:16,360
via the contract, the rental contract
they sign with us. So, it's not just

1535
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:16,360
like they can have anybody come in and

1536
02:09:16,719 --> 02:09:23,840
Oh, some of our um we're going to move
on. Concern has been some other people

1537
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:27,520
like you have acquired spaces for events
and then they rent it out to people and

1538
02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:30,800
it's not what they thought was going to
happen there. It's kind of gotten out of

1539
02:09:29,119 --> 02:09:35,760
hand. So that's why we have some
concerns. Uh I don't see yours to be

1540
02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:38,480
that kind of issue, but I'm just sharing
with you some of the sentiment that

1541
02:09:37,599 --> 02:09:42,000
you're hearing up here from the
commissioners.

1542
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:46,880
» I guess Mr. chairman, if like let's say
if um everything is approved and um and

1543
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:54,320
this weekend she wanted to have a
wedding, I don't think that you would

1544
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:59,280
need a a permit. If um next week someone
wanted to take pictures out there, which

1545
02:09:56,719 --> 02:10:03,520
is, you know, the beautiful um oak trees
and everything, I don't think you would

1546
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:09,760
need a permit. just um if it kind of got
out of hand, you know, and um we I don't

1547
02:10:06,719 --> 02:10:13,840
think that we going to require you to
get permits for every time somebody, you

1548
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:16,719
know, wants to go out there and do
something. I mean, go out there, take

1549
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:18,719
pictures. I don't think you would need a
permit for that.

1550
02:10:17,199 --> 02:10:21,280
» Would that business license?
>> Yeah.

1551
02:10:19,119 --> 02:10:27,119
» Yeah. You have to get a business
license. But but the events that she had

1552
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:31,679
have there she wouldn't have to be
>> fall under her

1553
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:33,280
» be kind of be responsible as the
>> okay

1554
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:38,800
» as the owner.
>> All right. You ready to move forward?

1555
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:43,280
» Got one more concern that you touched on
a little bit with uh with the porter

1556
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:46,480
toilets and stuff. um you're going to be
left you you sign a contract with some

1557
02:10:45,119 --> 02:10:50,719
someone when they want to do this
outdoor event and all and what I'm

1558
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:54,639
concerned about right there is uh
someone says well it's just a small

1559
02:10:52,079 --> 02:11:00,560
event there only going to be 15 of us we
don't need that but um the way I read

1560
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:03,760
this they got to have it
>> yeah that would be in the contract if if

1561
02:11:02,239 --> 02:11:08,000
there's a certain amount of people they
would be required to

1562
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:14,400
» Yeah. So I just want to make sure we got
to have all that in place. So um

1563
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:19,119
You ready? Motion. Yes, sir. Ready?
>> Yeah. All right. It uh I make a motion

1564
02:11:17,199 --> 02:11:22,960
we accept this and all to move forward
with the the special condition that's in

1565
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:26,320
place as we talked about here.
>> So move, Mr. Chair.

1566
02:11:24,079 --> 02:11:28,560
» Second. Motion to second that we approve
the recommendation. I knew where you

1567
02:11:28,079 --> 02:11:32,159
» late.
>> I knew you headed. Any further

1568
02:11:30,639 --> 02:11:35,760
discussion? All in favor? Show of hands,
please. Thank the committee for vetting

1569
02:11:33,599 --> 02:11:39,199
that for us. We appreciate it.
>> Of course. We appreciate LCPC. Thank

1570
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:43,440
you, ma'am. Look forward to it. We
>> Good luck. Beautiful property. Beautiful

1571
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:49,400
property.
Uh Moou,

1572
02:11:46,159 --> 02:11:49,400
Miss Lara

1573
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,960
again.
>> Hello.

1574
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:07,440
Uh Mr. Mosley asked me to come before
you tonight to talk a little bit more

1575
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:15,199
about compensation and pay studies as we
look ahead and hope to do a another paid

1576
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:22,920
study with Dr. Condre and associates.
Uh so I'm going to just

1577
02:12:18,159 --> 02:12:22,920
go through a few slides very quickly.

1578
02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:30,719
So compensation,
it's one of the largest investments we

1579
02:12:27,119 --> 02:12:36,800
make as a county government. It's easily
90% of our budget is paying for people.

1580
02:12:34,719 --> 02:12:42,360
Um it directly impacts recruitment,
retention, morale, and fiscal

1581
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:42,360
responsibility.

1582
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:51,119
You know, we're all competing for
talent. So, we're competing across the

1583
02:12:49,199 --> 02:12:56,719
region, especially for things like
public safety workers in fire, 911, EMS,

1584
02:12:54,960 --> 02:13:02,320
law enforcement,
and specialized positions like IT and

1585
02:12:59,920 --> 02:13:08,639
finance.
And modern employees expect to be paid

1586
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:13,760
fairly and have a transparent uh pay
that reflects local market rates, cost

1587
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:18,960
of living, and their skills, and
experience level. And of course, we want

1588
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:25,599
to have public trust. So when we have a
clear, visible pay plan, then taxpayers

1589
02:13:22,239 --> 02:13:31,440
can see how we are paying for salaries
and that helps our integrity as well.

1590
02:13:29,199 --> 02:13:37,280
I brought some data with me too like Mr.
Murray. Um these are some snapshots from

1591
02:13:34,159 --> 02:13:41,679
our uh Palosity platform showing you
some of the demographics of our current

1592
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:47,440
workforce. This is showing our full-time
people. Um the number in the center of

1593
02:13:45,199 --> 02:13:53,520
the ring chart represents our current
headcount of active employees which we

1594
02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:59,840
sit at 514 today
for fiscal year 27. Our authorized

1595
02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:05,440
strength is 560.
So we've got about 46 vacancies. Mainly

1596
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:10,000
those are in public safety.
Uh we also have some in public works

1597
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:15,079
along with some administrative positions
like appraisers or deputy clerks.

1598
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:22,880
» You wanted 50/50. We got 5050.
>> I saw that

1599
02:14:20,079 --> 02:14:26,480
» for gender. We're pretty equally split,
male and female in our workforce. And

1600
02:14:25,119 --> 02:14:33,199
then I thought it was interesting to
look at the breakdown of the different

1601
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:38,208
generations um that we employ,
most of which are millennials. It looks

1602
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:42,159
like
[clears throat]

1603
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:47,679
other employers, Liberty County must
contend with staff turnover. So this

1604
02:14:44,639 --> 02:14:53,679
slide shows you over the last 12 months,
we have had 127

1605
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:58,880
uh full-time separations.
um more than threequarters of those were

1606
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:03,599
resignations, so people voluntarily
leaving or retiring.

1607
02:15:01,599 --> 02:15:07,840
This is similar to the 12-month period
prior to the [clears throat and snorts]

1608
02:15:05,119 --> 02:15:12,400
past 12 months. Um and just keep in
mind, according to Sherm, which is the

1609
02:15:09,599 --> 02:15:17,920
Society for HR Management, replacing an
employee typically costs 30 to 200% of

1610
02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:22,560
their annual salary depending on the
role seniority and complexity. So, I

1611
02:15:21,199 --> 02:15:26,480
think about some of our departments
where when we bring somebody in, it

1612
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:31,199
could take upwards of a year to get them
fully trained to serve the public,

1613
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:34,199
whether that's a firefighter or a field
appraiser.

1614
02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:42,639
This slide shows, you know, the average
um length of service across the

1615
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:47,840
organization.
So, that is trending slightly downward,

1616
02:15:45,199 --> 02:15:54,480
which I think is typical of what the
market is becoming. Um about 20% of our

1617
02:15:52,719 --> 02:16:00,639
employees have been here at least 10
years which is great.

1618
02:15:57,040 --> 02:16:07,119
Our average tenure right now is 6.8 down
from 7.1 a year ago. So that's how many

1619
02:16:04,239 --> 02:16:11,599
years uh we've had this is in line with
the public sector but just something to

1620
02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:15,520
keep an eye on as longtimers retire.
They take with them a lot of

1621
02:16:12,719 --> 02:16:22,199
institutional knowledge and succession
is already succession planning is

1622
02:16:17,599 --> 02:16:22,199
already a top priority for us.

1623
02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:30,159
So why do we want to conduct a
compensation study? So Liberty County

1624
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:35,040
has always relied on formal compensation
studies to update its pay structure. And

1625
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:40,639
so there's many reasons for doing so
such as being competitive in the market,

1626
02:16:37,599 --> 02:16:46,559
maintaining internal equity, which means
paying employees fairly and consistently

1627
02:16:43,679 --> 02:16:52,484
for similar roles, responsibilities, and
experience levels. And very importantly,

1628
02:16:49,679 --> 02:16:55,920
creating a defensible pay structure
[snorts]

1629
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:58,920
using methodology that can stand up in
court.

1630
02:16:59,439 --> 02:17:06,639
So signs it's time for a pay study. When
you several of these indicators at once,

1631
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:12,479
it's likely time to reassess your pay
structure. So, some of these do apply to

1632
02:17:09,679 --> 02:17:19,280
us right now. Um, our recruitment
challenges, um, our current pay study,

1633
02:17:15,439 --> 02:17:25,439
the age of that, um, competitors raising
salaries or benefits. So, as soon as

1634
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:30,080
another sheriff's office, not to pick on
you, chief, uh, wants to offer a special

1635
02:17:27,920 --> 02:17:33,280
benefit, it's got the sher sheriff
looking, oh, do we need to do that, too?

1636
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:37,679
because they have such a challenge
recruiting uh deputies.

1637
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:42,960
Significant organizational
[clears throat] growth. Of course, we

1638
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:48,160
know that is true.
So, this over the last 25 years is a is

1639
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:53,519
our timeline of the various pay studies
we have implemented starting in 2001.

1640
02:17:51,599 --> 02:17:59,280
That was when I was first hired in the
EMA office [laughter]

1641
02:17:56,559 --> 02:18:07,120
and I came in right after one was
conducted. as a matter of fact.

1642
02:18:03,225 --> 02:18:10,960
[clears throat] Then we did one in 2006
or then so every four to five years

1643
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:17,359
we've done one except you can see that
gap that was the great recession and so

1644
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:23,280
we were not able to as a county fund any
pay studies during that time. Um and

1645
02:18:20,319 --> 02:18:29,599
then we did one in 2019. We did some
mini studies when we took on uh fire and

1646
02:18:26,479 --> 02:18:36,240
EMS and also when you asked us to look
at the living wage to ensure that every

1647
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:41,871
employee made at least $15 an hour.
And then the most recent works uh pay

1648
02:18:38,319 --> 02:18:46,399
study was put into place July 2023
[clears throat] and it starts a year in

1649
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:49,639
advance of implementation when they do
the study

1650
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:59,920
and we use outside an outside firm.
We've used UG Carl Vincson Institute of

1651
02:18:57,359 --> 02:19:04,880
Government um of which Dr. Condre is an
alumni

1652
02:19:01,519 --> 02:19:09,439
and um as you can see all the reasons
here why it's so advantageous to use

1653
02:19:06,960 --> 02:19:14,880
that from um providing impartial
evidence-based recommendations.

1654
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:19,840
Um we don't want people thinking that uh
you know if I made the decision that I'm

1655
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:25,200
biased, right? So we have
independent consultant doing that. They

1656
02:19:22,559 --> 02:19:30,240
have the specialized knowledge to do
compensation studies. They've got labor

1657
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:35,120
market insights and advanced uh
methodology to develop these pay uh

1658
02:19:33,439 --> 02:19:40,160
structures.
They're very efficient. They can

1659
02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:46,000
accomplish these pay studies with their
team because of their years of

1660
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:51,200
experience in a very short uh time frame
and not

1661
02:19:47,359 --> 02:19:55,439
while they don't disrupt our HR
flow.

1662
02:19:53,200 --> 02:20:01,359
And then of course defensibility, which
I think is so important because we've

1663
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:09,160
got a legally sound plan that withstands
the scrutiny from employees to elected

1664
02:20:04,319 --> 02:20:09,160
officials to auditors to taxpayers

1665
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:20,399
versus if we tried to do it ourselves.
Um there's some risks to doing so. Um a

1666
02:20:18,319 --> 02:20:26,160
comprehensive study can take hundreds of
hours, which if I'm being honest, and

1667
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:31,680
Jessica's here in the audience, um we're
already managing a lot of things.

1668
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:35,120
Recruiting, onboarding, benefits,
employee relations, payroll

1669
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:40,240
coordination, [snorts]
compliance, performance management, all

1670
02:20:38,479 --> 02:20:44,160
the things we're doing on a daily basis.
I don't know where we would find the

1671
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:50,252
time to do that.
or it would just take more than a year

1672
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:54,479
to do.
[snorts]

1673
02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:59,200
Also, uh internal bias or perceived
favoritism. So, when you have people in

1674
02:20:56,479 --> 02:21:04,479
house doing it, they may be perceived as
having favoritism towards some

1675
02:21:01,359 --> 02:21:10,359
departments or roles where when an
external consultant can not have these

1676
02:21:07,359 --> 02:21:10,359
pressures.

1677
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:20,240
Um I'm I have a lot of HR expertise, but
compensation studies is not one of them.

1678
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:24,880
So, I'm going going to admit that. Uh,
in an independent third party study

1679
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:29,880
often carries carries greater
credibility because like I said, they're

1680
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:29,880
more impartial.

1681
02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:39,600
So, the project roadmap
um generally outlined here in eight

1682
02:21:36,479 --> 02:21:43,840
steps. The first is planning, but
Condrian Associates are very familiar

1683
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:47,600
with us after working with us for so
many years that they're already familiar

1684
02:21:46,479 --> 02:21:52,160
with [clears throat] our structure, our
current plan, our policies, our budget.

1685
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:57,280
Um, they would meet with leadership and
HR to look at our current goals and

1686
02:21:54,960 --> 02:22:02,640
priorities.
Step two would be analyzing the job.

1687
02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:06,960
What are our current job descriptions?
What's changed? They talk to department

1688
02:22:04,479 --> 02:22:11,840
heads. Then they would collect data. So
they would collect salary data from a

1689
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:17,280
wide range of sources. Some that we
wouldn't have access to uh easily

1690
02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:21,680
because that's their business.
Other local governments publish surveys,

1691
02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:25,840
state associations,
databases, etc.

1692
02:22:24,479 --> 02:22:32,000
We'd also want to do market
benchmarking.

1693
02:22:27,359 --> 02:22:37,439
So how do we compare in this region
similar uh of other people with similar

1694
02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:41,840
population
budget size the services so generally

1695
02:22:40,479 --> 02:22:46,479
we'd look at other city and county
governments and then who are we

1696
02:22:44,479 --> 02:22:52,399
competing with in the region like Fort
Stewart um

1697
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:57,520
um
people like that. We'd also look at

1698
02:22:55,040 --> 02:23:04,800
certain internal jobs and compare them
with industry standards [snorts] such as

1699
02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:12,399
public safety, public works,
administrative type positions, finance,

1700
02:23:08,160 --> 02:23:17,600
IT. So they would uh those would be job
benchmarks.

1701
02:23:14,319 --> 02:23:23,840
Step five, this is very key part of
their analysis is maintaining the

1702
02:23:20,479 --> 02:23:29,200
internal equity of our plan pay plan.
because it makes sure that everybody is

1703
02:23:26,319 --> 02:23:34,240
judged on the same criteria as far as
their jobs. They break it down into 10

1704
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:38,589
components and they use the factor
evaluation system. So that's a

1705
02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:43,439
quantitative point factor
[clears throat] method used to grade and

1706
02:23:40,160 --> 02:23:49,359
classify positions. It assigns numerical
points to 10 specific components and

1707
02:23:46,720 --> 02:23:55,359
then those components are weighted. So
something like the knowledge required by

1708
02:23:51,520 --> 02:24:00,240
the position would count more than the
physical demands

1709
02:23:57,359 --> 02:24:04,960
and then the sum of all those points it
pinpoint where it should go on the pay

1710
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:09,359
plan. So it helps ensure everything is
rated fairly and consistently throughout

1711
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:14,479
all the departments.
And if you're interested, the 10

1712
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:22,160
components are the required knowledge
and skills, supervisory controls,

1713
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:29,760
guidelines, complexity, scope and effect
of their work, personal contacts,

1714
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:35,629
purpose of contacts, physical demands,
work environment, and supervisory

1715
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:35,629
responsibility. [clears throat]

1716
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:46,200
» You said contacts
contacts. Who do they come in contact

1717
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:46,200
with in the in the course of their day?

1718
02:24:46,479 --> 02:24:52,160
» Step six is developing the actual pay
structure. So given all that previous

1719
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:57,760
work, they would come up with your
salary grades, pay ranges, min, max,

1720
02:24:54,960 --> 02:25:02,240
etc. Then they would come back to you in
step seven with a cost analysis like

1721
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:05,760
here's here are several different
scenarios. If you remember with the last

1722
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:09,680
case study, they said, "Okay, do you
want to be at uh

1723
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:12,560
» market?"
>> At market.

1724
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:16,479
» Yeah. At market, slightly ahead of
market

1725
02:25:14,240 --> 02:25:20,000
uh where do you want to be with that? Um
do you want to do it in phases? You

1726
02:25:18,640 --> 02:25:24,240
know, they could come up with multiple
scenarios and costs for you as the board

1727
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:29,200
to decide.
>> Mr. Chair, Mr. Mosley, one of y'all are

1728
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:34,800
fellow commissioners. Uh do y'all
remember what we decided last time? I

1729
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:38,000
didn't we decide to be a little bit
aggressive

1730
02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:42,000
» at market.
>> At market

1731
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:47,520
» aggressive
>> aggressive

1732
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:51,439
I tell you a duck could pull a truck.
>> Yeah. So and and that's I guess that's

1733
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:57,520
where I'm getting at because we did this
what three years ago, right?

1734
02:25:54,319 --> 02:26:00,160
» 2023, right? 2022. So four years ago we
started the plan

1735
02:25:58,560 --> 02:26:06,399
» and implemented it.
>> Right. Right.

1736
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:09,280
» Right. So, we're doing it now again. And
basically, in a nutshell, he's going to

1737
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:13,600
come back and tell us where we are with
with market. And I'm I'm not trying to

1738
02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:17,760
cut you off. I just had had a few
questions and my list was getting a

1739
02:26:14,960 --> 02:26:23,200
little long. Uh, another thing is
whenever you're talking about the uh the

1740
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:28,640
data collection portion, is he comparing
us and and I heard you you say to other

1741
02:26:26,160 --> 02:26:34,399
government entities. Is it are you
comparing us with another community like

1742
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:35,760
ours?
Do you know

1743
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:39,840
» when
>> because what I'm saying is you can't

1744
02:26:37,439 --> 02:26:45,439
compare us with Fulton County or
>> correct. And so at the kickoff of the

1745
02:26:42,479 --> 02:26:52,399
plan, we would sit down with them with
leadership, Mr. Mosley, Miss Hunter,

1746
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:57,840
myself, Samantha, and we would outline
what are our goals and priorities. And

1747
02:26:54,880 --> 02:27:03,359
we would also tell them who we want.
They would recommend who to use as

1748
02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:06,560
comparison. And then we can also say,
well, we don't want them, but we

1749
02:27:04,880 --> 02:27:08,880
definitely want them
>> in the mix when we're collecting the

1750
02:27:08,399 --> 02:27:14,080
data.
>> Right. Well, I I I guess to to make sure

1751
02:27:11,439 --> 02:27:22,399
that that the the the the data that's
being collected is the most efficient

1752
02:27:16,800 --> 02:27:28,560
data, it has to be a mirror of of of me
personally, I mean, for 35,000, I think

1753
02:27:24,960 --> 02:27:34,319
we should look at it from where we are
and and whenever we talk about workforce

1754
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:38,640
and future workforce, is this the same
identity that we're we're looking for?

1755
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:43,600
Because of course, you know, Mr. share.
Here in Liberty County, we're being

1756
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:50,720
strongly focusing right now on education
and literacy. So, what I'm saying is are

1757
02:27:46,240 --> 02:27:55,840
we are are we looking to
expand the workforce to a that type of

1758
02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:59,200
level? You picking up what I'm I'm
putting down? You understand?

1759
02:27:58,240 --> 02:28:02,319
No, you lost
>> that type of

1760
02:27:59,920 --> 02:28:07,359
» Okay, cool. Let me break it down. All
right. [clears throat]

1761
02:28:04,479 --> 02:28:12,560
When are we looking at data collection?
Whenever we looking at workforce, we're

1762
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:17,760
looking at who we what workforce we have
now, but uh also in the future

1763
02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:23,280
workforce, are we looking at a different
education level? Are we looking at a a

1764
02:28:20,399 --> 02:28:28,080
younger level? What what what type of
workforce are we trying to attract? I

1765
02:28:25,520 --> 02:28:34,760
think if if we implement that, that'll
make what we're doing a little bit more,

1766
02:28:31,359 --> 02:28:34,760
you know, mainstream.

1767
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:45,760
follow me now. No, still okay. If if I'm
if I'm trying to The other day we were

1768
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:50,960
talking about uh healthc care in in
Georgia and how and and I know you serve

1769
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:55,520
on a lot of the health boards so you
understand and and Mr. Chair, you worked

1770
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:59,840
in the health field for a long time. The
issue we have in Georgia when we dealing

1771
02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:06,080
with health care sometimes is the
providers because a doctor here makes a

1772
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:11,840
100,000. I'm just throwing out a number
but then you go over the line and make

1773
02:29:08,960 --> 02:29:15,600
150. Where are you going to go? You're
going to go over the line. So what I'm

1774
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:21,120
saying is when are we looking at a data
collection? What are we comparing and

1775
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:27,600
what type of workforce are we looking at
for the future?

1776
02:29:24,560 --> 02:29:31,280
So, it sounds to me like you're speaking
more on the recruiting end

1777
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:32,560
» on on both ends, right?
>> Okay.

1778
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:36,240
» Right.
>> Well, having a strong pay structure

1779
02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:39,600
helps with recruiting.
>> It's more it's more than just it's just

1780
02:29:38,160 --> 02:29:43,520
more it's more than just money,
especially now with with that that

1781
02:29:41,439 --> 02:29:51,080
millennial. Trust me,
>> it's money. Yes, it it tracks, but also

1782
02:29:47,520 --> 02:29:51,080
» work life balance,

1783
02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:57,280
» right? But I'm I'm only speaking in that
small [clears throat] in that

1784
02:29:56,880 --> 02:30:02,240
» okay
>> specific area of compensation which I

1785
02:29:59,920 --> 02:30:05,200
agree is only one factor of recruitment
and retention. I agree with you there

1786
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:09,439
because
>> that's not what Dr. Condre is going to

1787
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:11,280
come in and do.
>> Okay.

1788
02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:17,800
» That's something
>> Commissioner Gillard, you were right.

1789
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:17,800
Right.

1790
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:25,439
» No, I No, what what I'm saying is we
keep doing this, but we understand that

1791
02:30:22,720 --> 02:30:30,960
we have to to keep increase and and I
feel like this board we've we've always

1792
02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:37,200
every year with budget. What we make
sure is that that we take care of our

1793
02:30:32,880 --> 02:30:40,800
our our workforce. We like I said, only
time we didn't was when I first got on

1794
02:30:39,439 --> 02:30:46,160
and we was going through the struggles
and I I remember that vividly. We we but

1795
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:51,840
since we've had that opportunity we have
so un what I'm saying is whenever

1796
02:30:49,584 --> 02:30:58,560
[clears throat] we looking at these pay
scale studies

1797
02:30:53,920 --> 02:31:02,240
what what's the bigger picture I mean
with all the due respect you you you

1798
02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:07,920
could put these numbers in and get on
chat GPT in 2026 and it it'll give you

1799
02:31:05,920 --> 02:31:12,479
everything you need. So what I'm saying
is what I think the biggest part when

1800
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:18,240
are we looking at the pay structure what
are we looking at for the future growth

1801
02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:22,080
and and you you pulled the data you know
but the different with the millennials

1802
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:28,000
and [clears throat] and the baby boomers
I think the baby boomers is seven almost

1803
02:31:24,560 --> 02:31:32,800
8% and again the difference without a
respect the baby boomers y'all stayed on

1804
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:37,760
jobs for 40 50 years millennials not
doing it so what I'm saying is and even

1805
02:31:35,200 --> 02:31:40,560
when you showed the the difference in
how many people left the county,

1806
02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:44,880
» right?
>> Some people don't leave just to leave. I

1807
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:50,960
promise you that. And I think you in HR,
you know that. Like the the people,

1808
02:31:48,880 --> 02:31:55,359
this new generation is different. And I
and I think what I'm saying is I'm not

1809
02:31:53,760 --> 02:32:01,280
saying that we don't need to pay for
this, but we need to make sure that what

1810
02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:05,840
we're looking for. I mean, just looking
at from the from the money, right?

1811
02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:09,680
» I mean, we can scale that. That's that's
scalable.

1812
02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:13,840
» Well, let let me mention this to you is
one of the things Mr. Mosley and I have

1813
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:20,160
talked about uh bringing into this
project which we haven't before are

1814
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:26,640
specific career progression pathways
because nowadays I mean people want

1815
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:32,080
measured
grow uh targeted growth like here give

1816
02:32:30,080 --> 02:32:37,680
me a way to get there and move up in the
organization instead of well I'm going

1817
02:32:34,399 --> 02:32:44,399
to wait 20 years till my boss retires
and and I've you Um, and Miss Hunter

1818
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:49,120
agrees with this, too. I mean, there's
studies about that. Um, that's what

1819
02:32:47,280 --> 02:32:51,760
keeps people at jobs. You give them a
pathway to move up and grow

1820
02:32:50,960 --> 02:32:57,200
» by far,
>> right? And, you know, we don't have our

1821
02:32:53,920 --> 02:33:02,240
pension anymore. We have the 401A,
which it's a great retirement plan, and

1822
02:33:00,160 --> 02:33:08,479
it's portable, and it's got advantages
to that. And it's more with the modern

1823
02:33:05,760 --> 02:33:12,319
way of people spending five to seven
years if you're lucky at your

1824
02:33:10,160 --> 02:33:16,880
organization before moving on. That's
why I mentioned succession planning is

1825
02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:21,359
important to us because we're losing,
you know, when somebody walks out after

1826
02:33:18,479 --> 02:33:26,720
30 years, have you captured what they
know. Um, so that is one of the things

1827
02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:31,680
we're going to bring to Dr. Condre is
having the career ladders. when you come

1828
02:33:29,439 --> 02:33:36,080
in, you know, you need to get this
certification and work this number of

1829
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:41,200
years and you're going to be a senior
clerk or a clerk two, three, four,

1830
02:33:39,280 --> 02:33:45,439
whatever it is that we decide to do.
>> Right. Mr. Sure. That that's the only

1831
02:33:42,479 --> 02:33:50,800
thing I was saying. I I I just you know
if we just getting strictly numbers for

1832
02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:54,000
okay for your position or you know the
different departments then I mean

1833
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:57,439
» I see what you mean now and that that is
something that we're going to

1834
02:33:55,280 --> 02:34:02,920
» right how detailed like you said
>> leverage in this study. Yes.

1835
02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:02,920
» Absolutely. All right. Thank you

1836
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:14,000
» Laura. Whenever he looks at this, he I
assume that he does look at the um

1837
02:34:10,479 --> 02:34:17,920
» job description and if you know
education,

1838
02:34:15,439 --> 02:34:22,960
» you know, if it needs requires a degree
and that type of thing, he looks at at

1839
02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:27,040
that. Also,
>> he does and he'll work with the

1840
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:31,120
department heads on that to uh determine
what level of education is needed for if

1841
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:34,479
it's an entry level position or
something more specialized

1842
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:39,120
» or do they need to get it within six
months or a year.

1843
02:34:37,520 --> 02:34:43,840
» Works with the department heads on that.
And we did a lot of that work on job

1844
02:34:41,439 --> 02:34:46,160
descriptions with the 2023
paper.

1845
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:50,080
» That's right.
>> And now we've gotten into much better

1846
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:53,760
practice as we post jobs. We're looking
at them for updates.

1847
02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:57,840
So
>> Laura,

1848
02:34:55,840 --> 02:35:03,120
» how many jobs description roughly off
the top of your head you think have

1849
02:34:59,359 --> 02:35:07,240
changed since the last study?
>> How about 350?

1850
02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:17,120
Um they continually get minor tweaks. Uh
the only ones I would see changing is if

1851
02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:23,200
we with the career ladders we would have
to make some intermediate

1852
02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:26,240
new job descriptions.
>> Okay. [clears throat]

1853
02:35:24,319 --> 02:35:33,359
» Well, I just hope that we don't run into
the same problem that we did with the LA

1854
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:38,399
last one. Remember, with the uh
one of our departments,

1855
02:35:36,479 --> 02:35:42,439
Mr. Moses probably he was he was just
coming in during that time.

1856
02:35:44,080 --> 02:35:48,240
I don't want to go into detail, but
>> lack of a better word, appeals. Remember

1857
02:35:47,359 --> 02:35:56,800
that?
>> Right. We did offer some appeals but um

1858
02:35:53,760 --> 02:36:00,160
yes but we have to remind everybody that
we're looking at a large county and

1859
02:35:58,720 --> 02:36:09,200
there is something called internal
equity. So what when you state your

1860
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:12,800
major duties and all of the thing those
components on the job description that's

1861
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:18,000
what they're measuring. All right.
Question. Since you said that, let's say

1862
02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:25,439
you come in, he comes in and he selects
who he wants to sit down with

1863
02:36:22,479 --> 02:36:29,040
» and that person puts down their job
description.

1864
02:36:27,439 --> 02:36:35,359
Where does it go from there? But
straight back to him or does it come

1865
02:36:30,800 --> 02:36:39,280
back to admin and then go to Dr. Condre?
>> Is the person sitting down with them the

1866
02:36:37,120 --> 02:36:42,560
department head?
>> Is that the only person he sits down

1867
02:36:40,880 --> 02:36:47,359
with? the department head
>> this last time. Yes.

1868
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:49,920
» Okay.
>> And

1869
02:36:47,680 --> 02:36:55,439
» so let's say you let's say you are my
department head and

1870
02:36:52,880 --> 02:37:01,280
» you put down something concerning me but
I don't know what you put down. How does

1871
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:05,920
that go?
>> Talking about like job description.

1872
02:37:02,960 --> 02:37:09,280
» Yeah.
When we finalized all the job

1873
02:37:07,520 --> 02:37:12,880
descriptions, we sent them to all the
departments to review.

1874
02:37:12,160 --> 02:37:18,000
» Um,
>> and that's what you used your

1875
02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:21,920
» that's information provided to the
>> right. We provided them to departments.

1876
02:37:19,439 --> 02:37:27,359
They provided them to the employees and
then that's when we offered the 90-day

1877
02:37:24,399 --> 02:37:31,280
appeal period and the employees got a
chance to see

1878
02:37:29,359 --> 02:37:35,200
the finalized version of their job
description and the pay and then come

1879
02:37:33,680 --> 02:37:40,240
and ask any questions. at Liberty
Region, we had to sign we had to sign

1880
02:37:36,880 --> 02:37:46,560
ours to saying this is what we
>> do every now with Palocity, we're able

1881
02:37:42,319 --> 02:37:50,640
to build um the job descriptions in to
um

1882
02:37:48,319 --> 02:37:56,319
the system and associate them with each
employee. So, um I don't think the

1883
02:37:54,399 --> 02:38:03,280
visibility is turned on there yet, but
we could do that or make it part of the

1884
02:37:59,680 --> 02:38:06,479
um basically we take the job posting and
base it on the job description. So,

1885
02:38:04,880 --> 02:38:10,840
they're when they apply for a job,
they're getting this all the

1886
02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:10,840
information.

1887
02:38:11,439 --> 02:38:16,640
» Go ahead.
>> I But I I I understand what what

1888
02:38:14,319 --> 02:38:23,680
Commissioner Stevenson is saying about
that. That's why I again I I think this

1889
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:29,120
is needed. You know, I think us as a
county, you know, we've always tried to

1890
02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:34,160
make sure and strive that our our the
foundation, which is you all are, you

1891
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:40,319
know, taken care of to our best our
ability. I just want to make sure that

1892
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:43,680
it's not just a regular old study that
don't come back and just say, "Okay,

1893
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:50,399
well, this is what we need." like
promise and commissioner thrift just

1894
02:38:45,520 --> 02:38:58,000
said it as well like you know if say for
instance a baby boomer is retiring right

1895
02:38:55,600 --> 02:39:02,240
and then a millennial comes with you
know whenever that job description first

1896
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:08,800
was initiated you might have only needed
a high school diploma but then a

1897
02:39:05,760 --> 02:39:12,800
millennial comes in with
maybe three or four years worth of

1898
02:39:10,479 --> 02:39:16,479
experience but with a bachelor's and
masters.

1899
02:39:14,560 --> 02:39:22,080
Where do you start them at? Whenever
they have the education,

1900
02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:26,319
which whoever gets the education, you
want to be compensated for your

1901
02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:33,600
education. Where where do you go?
Because I I know for a fact we've we

1902
02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:38,399
have some some positions right now where
somebody was replaced and they're making

1903
02:39:36,479 --> 02:39:43,280
less than the other person, their
predecessor. And I think you you know

1904
02:39:40,880 --> 02:39:48,399
that as well because you are in HR. So
what I'm saying is is is that something

1905
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:54,800
that we're going to consider as well.
>> We could ask Dr. Condre to come up with

1906
02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:59,760
a uh system such as that where they get
extra steps for education experience,

1907
02:39:58,160 --> 02:40:05,680
but that's going to come down to the
budget um and what they would project

1908
02:40:02,800 --> 02:40:10,560
that would cost to implement.
>> And and and I and I agree 100%. But the

1909
02:40:08,720 --> 02:40:14,479
reason why we're doing this, which you
said earlier, is retention. So if

1910
02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:21,040
» and improvement
>> and and there you go. So what I'm saying

1911
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:28,319
is those are are questions that I know
that if you're 45 and younger and you

1912
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:35,120
those are things that that matters you
know because again

1913
02:40:31,200 --> 02:40:38,399
401ks and all you know that
either a transfer you start another one

1914
02:40:37,359 --> 02:40:44,160
keep it going.
>> Mr. chair. Uh to answer Commissioner

1915
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:48,080
Stevens question, uh the department head
would have to sign off on that

1916
02:40:45,439 --> 02:40:53,120
particular job description. Um you could
have ex you could have cases where there

1917
02:40:49,840 --> 02:40:55,840
is some bias in that process. But what's
good about Dr. Condr, they've worked

1918
02:40:54,640 --> 02:41:00,160
with enough job description over the
years. They can tell pretty much how job

1919
02:40:58,479 --> 02:41:04,319
what the duties of a particular position
are. That's where their wisdom

1920
02:41:02,080 --> 02:41:09,120
institutional knowledge come into place.
>> And one other question for you, Miss L.

1921
02:41:07,911 --> 02:41:15,840
» [clears throat]
>> Is there any other company around in the

1922
02:41:12,080 --> 02:41:19,439
area that could do this same study?
>> Uh UG has a group

1923
02:41:18,399 --> 02:41:25,479
» so
>> so Dr. Condre pull out from UG

1924
02:41:27,439 --> 02:41:33,520
» 20 years.
>> So he retired with the information

1925
02:41:32,399 --> 02:41:38,479
of Liberty County
>> with his education. I guess

1926
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:43,680
» one one thing I wanted to say is uh I'm
hearing a lot about job descriptions and

1927
02:41:40,479 --> 02:41:49,280
different things uh and doing this study
uh everything ain't isolated just to a

1928
02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:53,359
job description. A lot of people are
doing way more than just their job

1929
02:41:50,960 --> 02:41:54,640
description or they getting compensated
like they should.

1930
02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:59,439
» Right.
>> You know,

1931
02:41:56,640 --> 02:42:02,640
right?
>> Tell me what you found out about other

1932
02:42:00,960 --> 02:42:06,000
companies that do this. Uh, one one of
the things I'm glad that question was

1933
02:42:04,560 --> 02:42:09,359
asked. There are there are a bunch of
companies that do that. A lot of

1934
02:42:07,760 --> 02:42:13,760
companies, you know, they're starting
prices in the 100 thousands. And it's

1935
02:42:11,280 --> 02:42:18,240
ironic when we were doing this, um, it
was uh, a question came across the list

1936
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:24,560
serve and people were asking, okay, who
or somebody good that you recommend to

1937
02:42:21,040 --> 02:42:28,960
to do a job description? UG and Condrin
Associates were the two that was

1938
02:42:26,080 --> 02:42:33,200
consistent that um, the people were
responding to. Um, Staceboro, not

1939
02:42:31,680 --> 02:42:36,880
Staceboro, but Bullet County just paid
Arch and Surus and I guarantee it was

1940
02:42:35,120 --> 02:42:41,960
$100,000.
Uh, it's very lucrative to do these

1941
02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:41,960
types of studies.

1942
02:42:42,399 --> 02:42:48,560
» So, this this study would include
rewriting job descriptions.

1943
02:42:47,120 --> 02:42:51,800
» Yes, sir.
>> If needed,

1944
02:42:54,000 --> 02:42:57,760
» adding any new ones.
>> See, old Clinton sitting out there. I

1945
02:42:56,479 --> 02:43:02,640
mean, I can't imagine his job
description to change it. I mean, he's

1946
02:42:59,359 --> 02:43:05,600
he does everything.
>> It's not on there.

1947
02:43:04,560 --> 02:43:09,280
» No, no.
>> Well, when you sat down with Dr. Condra,

1948
02:43:07,760 --> 02:43:10,319
make sure you update [clears throat]
him.

1949
02:43:09,520 --> 02:43:14,160
» Don't be.
>> No, I Mr. Chairman, I I got I got to run

1950
02:43:12,560 --> 02:43:16,000
in a minute, but I I do want to say I
think we did talk about this done,

1951
02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:22,240
Laura.
>> Well, I I just wanted to say this. We um

1952
02:43:20,240 --> 02:43:26,800
it was one of those slides in there. U
back up, Laura.

1953
02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:31,520
Right. right there where you had one,
two, three, four and one, two, three,

1954
02:43:28,319 --> 02:43:34,720
four on both sides and you refer to the
the right side as

1955
02:43:33,200 --> 02:43:39,359
» 567
as 5, six, seven.

1956
02:43:36,399 --> 02:43:43,040
» That's so and my my my question was was
>> Nathan did something

1957
02:43:40,319 --> 02:43:49,520
» was was the three on the right the same
as seven, but that's a joke. [snorts]

1958
02:43:46,880 --> 02:43:56,399
» No, no, no. My my my question u when we
talked about this last month um and I

1959
02:43:53,120 --> 02:44:02,880
think the question was we we've done
these studies before Dr. Conra or

1960
02:43:58,960 --> 02:44:07,359
somebody has done them before and and I
guess and I'm just imagining this it may

1961
02:44:04,720 --> 02:44:11,920
not be the case that once he get
finished he gives us a report you know

1962
02:44:10,800 --> 02:44:17,040
» right
>> yes

1963
02:44:13,439 --> 02:44:21,359
and um which is kind of like a recipe
and and then one of those slides say

1964
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:25,120
that we do them every three to five
years

1965
02:44:23,040 --> 02:44:30,319
and if someone that and I was just
thinking if you if someone did a study

1966
02:44:28,160 --> 02:44:37,120
three years ago
and then in 2019

1967
02:44:33,600 --> 02:44:42,640
I mean what's the 26 2029
it's time to do another study you you

1968
02:44:39,359 --> 02:44:47,200
you have that that recipe and you know
so you go back to that and you kind of

1969
02:44:45,200 --> 02:44:54,160
do the same thing that that was just my
thought but then you you you had a list

1970
02:44:49,680 --> 02:45:00,160
I mean a laundry list of reasons why
it need to be done by somebody else and

1971
02:44:56,479 --> 02:45:06,399
reasons why why we can't do it. And um I
just thought that um you know we we've

1972
02:45:04,080 --> 02:45:10,880
we've been through this process several
times probably and I've been here

1973
02:45:09,120 --> 02:45:16,399
probably three or four times since I was
up here.

1974
02:45:12,960 --> 02:45:21,680
And I guess um what we're saying is that
each time it's done is different. It's

1975
02:45:19,040 --> 02:45:26,960
not the same report that you got from
him three years ago. is a he's going to

1976
02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:32,279
give you a whole another report
from a salary study, a different report.

1977
02:45:32,399 --> 02:45:40,640
The outline of the report would be the
same, but he's going through a whole new

1978
02:45:37,279 --> 02:45:45,040
process of collecting the most current
salary data from all the different

1979
02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:47,600
sources that we outline.
>> But I mean, that's what he gonna tell

1980
02:45:46,240 --> 02:45:51,359
you. That's what he's doing. But, um,
how how does he do that? I mean, with

1981
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:54,080
magic?
>> No.

1982
02:45:52,880 --> 02:45:58,000
They reach out to all those
organizations personally.

1983
02:45:56,080 --> 02:46:00,800
» Same ones he reached out to three years
ago, wouldn't it?

1984
02:45:59,359 --> 02:46:05,520
» Right. That's why he has all those
relationships with all these different

1985
02:46:03,600 --> 02:46:08,880
uh communities. He does this. So,
>> but the country

1986
02:46:06,880 --> 02:46:14,640
» I guess there's a big change in three
years. So, when he he does it today and

1987
02:46:11,920 --> 02:46:18,960
in 2029 when he does it again, there's
something totally different. So, he's

1988
02:46:16,240 --> 02:46:24,800
going to do that in three years.
>> It's the same methodology that he's

1989
02:46:20,800 --> 02:46:29,359
used. is really updating the numbers and
we don't really delve into the all the

1990
02:46:27,200 --> 02:46:33,840
background data that's not in his
report. It's basically a summary report

1991
02:46:32,160 --> 02:46:38,000
with the different options and costs for
the board.

1992
02:46:35,680 --> 02:46:44,160
I mean, you know, and I think we all
want the the best for our employees. I

1993
02:46:40,479 --> 02:46:50,000
mean, you know, so if if if a study um
done by whoever, including us, could

1994
02:46:48,319 --> 02:46:55,760
make things better for our employees,
then I think we're all for that. But I

1995
02:46:52,399 --> 02:47:03,120
just didn't think that um having Dr. Con
or Steve here um to do a study that he's

1996
02:47:00,720 --> 02:47:08,720
done time and time and time again to
tell us what

1997
02:47:05,279 --> 02:47:11,920
we probably could be able to refer to or
that we should probably already know.

1998
02:47:10,399 --> 02:47:16,000
But but maybe it is more to it than
that. I'll

1999
02:47:13,200 --> 02:47:19,279
» if if if we get him. Um and if y'all
don't mind, I'll like to come in and see

2000
02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:22,560
how he make the sausage.
>> I was going to say we we don't know how

2001
02:47:21,120 --> 02:47:24,399
the sausage is made.
>> Well,

2002
02:47:22,880 --> 02:47:26,720
» and then see what
>> that's that's his secret.

2003
02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:28,720
» Yeah. Yeah. That's what [laughter] I'm
saying. He's not the only sausage maker,

2004
02:47:28,319 --> 02:47:31,520
you know.
>> You know,

2005
02:47:29,279 --> 02:47:34,080
» I mean, it's like the chicken, man. You
know how many spices, but

2006
02:47:32,880 --> 02:47:40,560
» Yeah.
>> at that I thought you would say, Mr.

2007
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:45,359
Mostly uh the study done three years ago
from that data things could even have

2008
02:47:42,560 --> 02:47:47,920
changed which states paid in 2023 they
could be paying something different now

2009
02:47:46,720 --> 02:47:52,080
then we'll know okay we're getting out
of kilter because statesboro will county

2010
02:47:50,479 --> 02:47:55,200
Wayne County now they're paying this
>> that that is correct sir that they

2011
02:47:53,600 --> 02:48:00,479
they've been through studies and they've
they've up increased it to meet their

2012
02:47:57,359 --> 02:48:03,279
market so everybody's has has done it
that's a good point

2013
02:48:01,600 --> 02:48:06,479
» and one I was thinking of
>> but that sound

2014
02:48:04,000 --> 02:48:08,319
» we're all trying to stay
>> slightly

2015
02:48:07,439 --> 02:48:12,399
We're sure. We're sure.
>> And that's how the market keeps moving.

2016
02:48:10,880 --> 02:48:13,840
» That is
>> all right.

2017
02:48:13,279 --> 02:48:17,279
» Okay.
>> Okay. Any other questions?

2018
02:48:16,479 --> 02:48:22,640
» Thank you.
>> So, wait a minute. So, behind this

2019
02:48:19,760 --> 02:48:25,760
study, if you are still here at the next
go round, you should be able to do it

2020
02:48:24,080 --> 02:48:28,800
yourself, right?
>> Oh, it's going to be different.

2021
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:31,760
» Going to be fine.
>> Yeah, it's going to be different.

2022
02:48:29,840 --> 02:48:36,800
» Unless you want to send me to become an
expert. And and and what was the price

2023
02:48:35,200 --> 02:48:37,920
three years ago for the state?
>> 32.

2024
02:48:37,359 --> 02:48:39,920
» 32.
>> 32.

2025
02:48:38,960 --> 02:48:43,196
» Even that's different.
>> Oh, yeah. So So yeah, [laughter]

2026
02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:49,120
» the scale moves.
>> I'm in three years going to be 40.

2027
02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:51,359
» Oh man.
>> All right. We've been here a long time.

2028
02:48:50,640 --> 02:48:56,319
» I do have to go.
>> Hold. Chair a motion.

2029
02:48:54,080 --> 02:49:01,120
» Mr. Chairman, I make a motion we approve
theou with Steve Condre and Associates.

2030
02:48:59,040 --> 02:49:07,200
» Second with with all the details.
>> All in favor? with all the details.

2031
02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:10,279
» Thank you, sir.
>> All right.

2032
02:49:10,399 --> 02:49:16,160
» Mr. Wales.
>> He didn't hear you.

2033
02:49:15,040 --> 02:49:17,680
» Mr. Wales.
>> I said, "Hey."

2034
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:21,160
» Hey, Gary.
>> She still in here.

2035
02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:32,560
» Well, even sir,
>> we uh sent out some bids for replace one

2036
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:38,000
of our front load garbage trucks.
We got some prices back from two

2037
02:49:34,160 --> 02:49:42,880
different vendors on what we got. The
low bid was Sam some equipment out of

2038
02:49:41,279 --> 02:49:45,880
Statesboro
394950.

2039
02:49:47,680 --> 02:49:54,319
» That was the low bid. And is it in the
is in the CIP a budgeted item and come

2040
02:49:52,560 --> 02:50:00,880
in [laughter] under budget?
>> You check the other budget.

2041
02:49:57,279 --> 02:50:04,240
» Uh Sam is SWAT. They brought out.
>> Yeah, I know. I know. I just I

2042
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:06,720
» We're familiar with that vendor
obviously.

2043
02:50:05,600 --> 02:50:10,960
» We're familiar with that vendor
obviously.

2044
02:50:07,279 --> 02:50:14,560
» Yes, we use them all the time. We
>> primary vendors.

2045
02:50:12,479 --> 02:50:18,560
» Chair entertain a motion and commission.
>> So that second

2046
02:50:17,279 --> 02:50:23,200
» I make a motion approve.
>> I second it.

2047
02:50:21,200 --> 02:50:25,359
» Further discussion. All in favor of your
hands, please.

2048
02:50:24,720 --> 02:50:27,600
» All right, sir.
>> Thank you. [laughter]

2049
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:31,680
» What's What's the turnaround time on the
U delivery? He's actually got it on the

2050
02:50:30,160 --> 02:50:34,720
yard. He's got to send us the body
painted blue to match the rest of ours.

2051
02:50:33,680 --> 02:50:37,040
» Yeah.
>> Ready to go.

2052
02:50:35,439 --> 02:50:39,840
» And I'm assuming we have the money. I
guess it's too late.

2053
02:50:39,120 --> 02:50:41,600
» He answered that.
>> I know.

2054
02:50:40,399 --> 02:50:45,359
» Yeah.
>> I I can't hear it over over my stomach

2055
02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:48,560
right now, you know. But
>> wait a minute now.

2056
02:50:47,920 --> 02:50:49,600
» Thank y'all.
>> All right.

2057
02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:53,520
» All right.
>> Mr. Mosley, your report.

2058
02:50:51,760 --> 02:50:57,200
» Nope. We got No,
>> man. Man, we on the second page now.

2059
02:50:55,520 --> 02:51:01,200
» Wait a minute. Oh god,
>> we took that. It's it's it's still

2060
02:50:59,359 --> 02:51:06,960
people in the audience, so I'm
>> Yeah, I see that. Yeah. You know what?

2061
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:11,359
» Somebody didn't give me the second page.
>> Okay. Uh yeah.

2062
02:51:10,000 --> 02:51:15,120
» Uh talk that
>> Chief Deputy uh Hagen.

2063
02:51:14,560 --> 02:51:18,960
» Come on, Chief.
>> Mr. Chair, I was he about to go sleep,

2064
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:24,273
but I was [laughter] going to invite him
up. Here it goes. Right.

2065
02:51:20,880 --> 02:51:29,279
» The we working night shift, chief.
[laughter]

2066
02:51:25,840 --> 02:51:32,880
Anything? Good afternoon commission.
>> Okay,

2067
02:51:29,680 --> 02:51:36,880
» visitors that are left.
>> I just want to clear one thing real

2068
02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:42,160
quick
>> since it was mentioned and we are live

2069
02:51:39,439 --> 02:51:47,680
here that the sheriff's department look
at giving pay raises. The ones that we

2070
02:51:44,880 --> 02:51:53,040
do give, we do do it within. We find
creative ways within our budget. We have

2071
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:58,560
not come to the commission to ask for
monies to the sheriff do everything he

2072
02:51:56,000 --> 02:52:03,040
can to work within his budget because
that's part of retention. We're the the

2073
02:52:01,279 --> 02:52:05,920
market is constantly changing. But thank
you for allowing me to make that quick.

2074
02:52:05,279 --> 02:52:08,880
» Absolutely.
>> Thank you, sir.

2075
02:52:06,560 --> 02:52:13,359
» Clarification.
>> That's not just you. That's other

2076
02:52:10,800 --> 02:52:20,240
departments, too.
>> But I'm here tonight to um come before

2077
02:52:16,880 --> 02:52:26,880
you all to bring the um
26 2026 2027U

2078
02:52:24,479 --> 02:52:33,840
between the school board and the county
commissioners for the SRO program. Um

2079
02:52:31,120 --> 02:52:41,279
the the
contract hasn't didn't change much from

2080
02:52:37,040 --> 02:52:46,560
last year's contract. Um we have um we
did up two

2081
02:52:44,080 --> 02:52:53,200
SRO's we have two supervisors, a
lieutenant and a sergeant. Um and seven

2082
02:52:49,520 --> 02:53:01,279
deputies in the schools. We have two in
each high school. And then the what we

2083
02:52:56,720 --> 02:53:06,560
did was looked at the plan to
use dual resources like at the middle

2084
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:12,880
schools, have that officer cover the
elementary schools that are attached as

2085
02:53:08,800 --> 02:53:19,040
well. Um, I'm the sheriff and I firmly
believed in combined resources and from

2086
02:53:15,760 --> 02:53:26,000
that we were able to save the board from
the last budget approximately $900,000.

2087
02:53:24,080 --> 02:53:31,920
And so they were able to cut that from
the SRO board as a result of us um

2088
02:53:30,240 --> 02:53:37,279
shifting and cutting some of the
positions. Um, so

2089
02:53:34,960 --> 02:53:40,240
» you said save 900,000.
>> Nice.

2090
02:53:40,560 --> 02:53:44,720
So you just need approval
for this year

2091
02:53:44,240 --> 02:53:50,240
» ma'am.
>> You just need approval for this year for

2092
02:53:46,479 --> 02:53:53,439
the school board has already gone before
the board and it's been approved by

2093
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:56,720
them.
on our side.

2094
02:53:54,640 --> 02:54:01,520
» And as you know, for those who don't
know,

2095
02:53:58,080 --> 02:54:08,560
» only thing that costs the county um
commissioners or the county taxpayers is

2096
02:54:04,160 --> 02:54:13,920
from the um you all basically pay out
the salaries to the officers and re

2097
02:54:10,720 --> 02:54:18,240
fully reimbured by the school board.
>> Chief, does that

2098
02:54:16,479 --> 02:54:20,240
that includes a benefit for them too,
right?

2099
02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:27,520
» Okay. Okay. That's that's what I know.
>> No money by Okay. Yeah. And how many

2100
02:54:24,479 --> 02:54:30,800
» what's your total overall bill out for
all of the SRO's? Was it

2101
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:34,560
» total cost?
>> No. Uh person per person.

2102
02:54:33,840 --> 02:54:37,520
» Many
>> how many? How many?

2103
02:54:36,960 --> 02:54:42,000
» Nine.
>> Nine. Now

2104
02:54:38,399 --> 02:54:47,600
» nine with two supervisors, seven um
daily operation. your supervisors own

2105
02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:52,960
the different schools but also maintain
all the um documentation

2106
02:54:51,439 --> 02:54:56,399
full implementation. How many will it
be? when y'all got full implement.

2107
02:54:54,800 --> 02:55:00,080
» What's your expectation to get
everybody?

2108
02:54:56,880 --> 02:55:05,520
» Of course, we looked at 15. Okay, that's
right. Total and that's what was funded.

2109
02:55:02,720 --> 02:55:11,600
And then instead of funding that full
15, we go with nine, we cut back to

2110
02:55:09,279 --> 02:55:14,160
instead of having that money sitting out
there, that was able to go back to the

2111
02:55:13,760 --> 02:55:18,399
board.
>> And and that's and that's the $900,000

2112
02:55:16,399 --> 02:55:22,399
that you just stated that that save,
right? which is which is a win-win on

2113
02:55:20,560 --> 02:55:27,279
both sides and and more importantly for
the taxpayers. But we appreciate you uh

2114
02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:31,439
I I think we already made a motion in a
second already, but but [laughter] more

2115
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:36,800
but more well we really did. But but
more importantly uh you know just being

2116
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:43,840
out there today you know uh at the
schools just seeing the the safety that

2117
02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:48,960
I felt you know uh even you know over at
Bradwell they had the metal detectors

2118
02:55:46,399 --> 02:55:53,680
the deputies were out there and and
again for someone who has kids in the

2119
02:55:51,200 --> 02:55:59,760
school system you know it it made me
feel safe where where I know uh when my

2120
02:55:57,279 --> 02:56:03,920
kids walk out the door of course I pray
but hey that that's that's only that's

2121
02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:08,479
only a little bit, you know, but but
just to make sure, you know, the Bible

2122
02:56:05,920 --> 02:56:12,960
says, you know,
about works and

2123
02:56:11,200 --> 02:56:15,920
» Yeah. You got you got to work it.
>> Sound a little Baptist over here.

2124
02:56:14,319 --> 02:56:17,600
» Sound a little Baptist over here, huh?
>> Yeah. You said you wanted to go home,

2125
02:56:17,200 --> 02:56:20,160
too.
>> Amen.

2126
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:21,840
» A motion. We had a motion. Who made the
motion?

2127
02:56:20,880 --> 02:56:25,920
» Timmy made a motion.
>> I made a second.

2128
02:56:23,439 --> 02:56:30,720
» All right. All in favor?
Thank you, J.

2129
02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:34,640
And I want to thank the school board
publicly too.

2130
02:56:31,760 --> 02:56:38,960
» Absolutely. We app we appreciate that we
have for them approving that because it

2131
02:56:36,960 --> 02:56:43,920
helps to keep our kids safe. Thank you
so much. Thank you for hanging there

2132
02:56:40,960 --> 02:56:50,200
with us
>> and love y'all. Y'all uniforms man.

2133
02:56:46,880 --> 02:56:50,200
» Pretty spiffy.

2134
02:56:53,600 --> 02:56:57,439
» You ready?
>> Oh. Oh. M chair and [laughter] members

2135
02:56:55,359 --> 02:57:01,200
of the board. Uh this is a house
cleaning item. Uh as you know, it's very

2136
02:56:59,439 --> 02:57:09,359
important for us to have uh people to
sign off on ordinances. Uh when things

2137
02:57:04,960 --> 02:57:13,760
go uh when Steve goes to when um uh um
Mr. Morera goes to court, he has to have

2138
02:57:11,279 --> 02:57:19,439
somebody sign off on the um on the
codes. And right now, Maria is the only

2139
02:57:16,960 --> 02:57:22,960
one that's uh authorized. And what this
uh what we're requesting is to authorize

2140
02:57:21,120 --> 02:57:30,240
the individual's name in it, but namely
me uh Miss Hunter and also Miss

2141
02:57:25,920 --> 02:57:33,439
Radcliffe to to sign uh codes uh for
staff as they go to court.

2142
02:57:32,319 --> 02:57:37,120
» Sounds good.
>> Okay. Need a motion on that?

2143
02:57:35,920 --> 02:57:39,120
» Yes, sir.
>> Yeah, I'll make that motion.

2144
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:44,840
» Second.
>> Motion to second. Any further

2145
02:57:40,319 --> 02:57:44,840
discussion? Good. All in favor?

2146
02:57:45,200 --> 02:57:52,720
» Next item on the agenda, Mr. there uh is
a resolution. We're not going to read

2147
02:57:49,359 --> 02:57:58,880
it. Uh but basically uh D uh EPD is uh
doing some uh reorganization um and but

2148
02:57:56,319 --> 02:58:04,240
in our region uh Mr. Field ODM has been
on the uh um state uh water policy

2149
02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:09,120
council for a long time and he would
like to be renominated uh by Liberty

2150
02:58:06,720 --> 02:58:12,640
County to uh maintain on there. He's
done a great job and he's been outspoken

2151
02:58:11,120 --> 02:58:16,000
and been a great advocate for Liberty
County and water resources in the area.

2152
02:58:14,960 --> 02:58:18,080
Yes. Still over there.
>> He is.

2153
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:22,800
» I make that motion. Chairman
>> second.

2154
02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:27,840
» Any further discussion?
>> All in favor? Mr. You're reappointed.

2155
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:33,680
» Mr. Everything water. I appreciate you,
sir.

2156
02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:38,000
» Uh, next item, Mr. Chair, is a um item.
Uh basically it says that uh when

2157
02:58:36,319 --> 02:58:42,960
elected officials and that's all elected
officials uh when they leave office they

2158
02:58:40,319 --> 02:58:46,640
can elect to take their tablet phone and
phone number with them at any their

2159
02:58:44,560 --> 02:58:49,840
office and when they take it with them
they'll be responsible they coordinate

2160
02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:55,279
with our IT department and basically
they will be responsible for going to

2161
02:58:52,399 --> 02:58:59,920
their whatever selection they want in
terms of service and they will re uh new

2162
02:58:57,600 --> 02:59:03,520
the service through a new provider and
should they not they would simply turn

2163
02:59:01,439 --> 02:59:07,600
it over to it. That's all this
particular policy is and it is a

2164
02:59:05,520 --> 02:59:11,279
amendment to our information security
usage policy.

2165
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:15,399
» Yes sir. Mr. Chairman I make a motion
for approval.

2166
02:59:12,399 --> 02:59:15,399
» Second

2167
02:59:15,439 --> 02:59:24,720
further discussion.
>> Oh we already made second. Okay cool.

2168
02:59:22,080 --> 02:59:29,040
» All right. Date funds committee.
>> Yes sir.

2169
02:59:27,439 --> 02:59:32,479
» Okay.
And uh we had two Afric well we

2170
02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:35,200
» uh
>> F

2171
02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:37,680
» F
>> this one

2172
02:59:35,840 --> 02:59:41,600
» contract with Minute Man security.
>> Mr. Chair, I'm going to ask my IT

2173
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:44,720
director and also
>> to

2174
02:59:42,640 --> 02:59:50,680
» uh now I also asked the other gentleman,
Mr. Jesse, to accompany him and they can

2175
02:59:47,359 --> 02:59:50,680
do a presentation.

2176
02:59:51,904 --> 02:59:58,960
[laughter]
>> Good evening everybody. Uh this is why I

2177
02:59:55,439 --> 03:00:03,600
wore the suit. um coming for you coming
for you tonight. Um this is kind of a

2178
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:07,439
unique project. Um try to think the best
way to to explain it. Um so we have 13

2179
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:12,800
county buildings that have physical
access security systems in them. Um with

2180
03:00:09,760 --> 03:00:17,200
three different security access system
controllers. Um the the largest being

2181
03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:21,600
our justice center courthouse and
courthouse annex. Um that system was put

2182
03:00:19,200 --> 03:00:24,960
in when the justice center was built and
the system has reached the end of its

2183
03:00:23,359 --> 03:00:31,200
life. I don't want to go into a whole
lot of details what what's going on but

2184
03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:36,080
um we uh reached out to our uh longtime
security vendor Minute Man um who used

2185
03:00:33,120 --> 03:00:44,160
to be adapt who has put in uh physical
security systems, camera systems and um

2186
03:00:38,640 --> 03:00:48,240
for the county to um recommend
uh different systems that can come in

2187
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:52,000
and unify and connect all 13 buildings
to one system. We currently have three.

2188
03:00:50,080 --> 03:00:54,800
Uh just to kind of explain, when we hire
a fireman, we have to put the fireman in

2189
03:00:53,520 --> 03:00:57,279
two different systems. When we hire a
deputy, we have to put the deputy in

2190
03:00:56,000 --> 03:01:01,040
three different systems to be able to
get into the buildings. Um put for y'all

2191
03:00:59,760 --> 03:01:03,920
to get in this building, go into one
building. If you want to come into one

2192
03:01:02,880 --> 03:01:08,080
system, if you want to come into my
building, we got to put you into another

2193
03:01:05,120 --> 03:01:12,399
system. Uh so we asked Minute Man to to
uh come up with some companies that that

2194
03:01:10,080 --> 03:01:16,560
could handle 13 buildings and all the
access control readers that we do have

2195
03:01:13,920 --> 03:01:20,800
in those buildings and to recommend some
systems uh that would handle it. Um we

2196
03:01:19,040 --> 03:01:26,399
we got a small committee together,
myself, administration, the sheriff's

2197
03:01:22,560 --> 03:01:32,560
office, building maint um there's
somebody else in there, 911 and EMA uh

2198
03:01:29,359 --> 03:01:38,319
to to evaluate the systems and um we
settled on the Genitech system

2199
03:01:35,680 --> 03:01:41,359
um for the system that we need that
would meet our needs and it had the

2200
03:01:39,920 --> 03:01:45,439
features that we liked. It was able to
unify and connect all the buildings

2201
03:01:43,040 --> 03:01:48,880
together. Uh we will have to replace
some hardware in some buildings. Some of

2202
03:01:47,520 --> 03:01:52,560
the newer buildings that we've just
completed. Uh they will be able to

2203
03:01:50,479 --> 03:01:55,760
reflash the the little boxes that
control the doors to the new software

2204
03:01:54,319 --> 03:01:59,120
that will work with this. So we won't
have to physically replace some some of

2205
03:01:57,600 --> 03:02:07,279
the hardware, but most of the hardware
we will have to replace. Um

2206
03:02:03,760 --> 03:02:13,840
and let's see here.
And we were able to do that for $71,000.

2207
03:02:11,279 --> 03:02:21,439
Um, and we're asking the board to
approve that. So, as far as funding

2208
03:02:16,000 --> 03:02:25,760
goes, um, $460,000 of this was uh um
earmarked in the capital improvement

2209
03:02:24,000 --> 03:02:28,399
capital improvement budget. Trying to
make sure I say that right. Was

2210
03:02:26,880 --> 03:02:32,720
earmarked in the capital improvement
budget, which was approved by the

2211
03:02:29,760 --> 03:02:37,359
commission. Um, and Miss Richardson has
identified funds. Um I'm not really sure

2212
03:02:35,439 --> 03:02:42,319
where, but she has identified funds that
are existing to pay for the additional

2213
03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:46,479
$241,000 of the project. Uh so this
would be paid for, not we don't have to

2214
03:02:44,399 --> 03:02:48,479
lease anything, but would be paid for
would would not require a budget

2215
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:52,399
adjustment.
>> Where did Samantha find the

2216
03:02:50,479 --> 03:02:57,800
» bond money?
>> And and what money

2217
03:02:54,479 --> 03:02:57,800
» bond money?

2218
03:02:58,800 --> 03:03:04,319
» It's a very good system. We got our
Minute Man representative here who will

2219
03:03:02,479 --> 03:03:08,000
be handling the installation,
maintenance, and all of that. And Miss

2220
03:03:05,600 --> 03:03:10,479
Laura who's the financing and and put
the quote together, sales, and put the

2221
03:03:09,359 --> 03:03:13,600
quote together. If you have any
questions, uh, this is a security

2222
03:03:12,319 --> 03:03:17,760
matter, so we kind of might be a little
vague on a couple of things, but any

2223
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:20,960
questions,
>> where did you get your suit from?

2224
03:03:20,196 --> 03:03:25,520
[laughter]
>> I mean, vague. I mean, seriously,

2225
03:03:22,640 --> 03:03:29,200
without we really we really should be
openly discussing a lot of that

2226
03:03:27,200 --> 03:03:31,680
questions. That's that's why right
>> that's why he's speaking vaguely sir.

2227
03:03:30,560 --> 03:03:34,479
» Yeah. And that's why I just asked about
a suit that let's let's just

2228
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:37,920
» you trying to
>> right let's just keep it moving

2229
03:03:36,160 --> 03:03:41,279
» would be help I'll answer any questions
offline that you that you may have if

2230
03:03:39,600 --> 03:03:45,040
you want some specific
>> just out of curiosity ready to go home

2231
03:03:43,200 --> 03:03:48,160
too health department would not be one
of the building. So so when they go over

2232
03:03:47,120 --> 03:03:51,840
there how
>> you would need another card.

2233
03:03:49,600 --> 03:03:57,600
» Okay. This handles um all three
courouses, uh three fire stations, three

2234
03:03:54,960 --> 03:04:00,720
MS buildings, the gates of public works,
all the IT 911, EMA building.

2235
03:04:00,479 --> 03:04:02,560
» Okay.
>> Just a center and yeah, the three

2236
03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:06,800
courouses.
>> How long you think this will last?

2237
03:04:05,439 --> 03:04:10,160
» Um
>> 10 15 years.

2238
03:04:08,880 --> 03:04:13,359
» One of the reasons we went with this
system was for future growth and

2239
03:04:11,600 --> 03:04:16,160
expandability. So as we add new
buildings, as we discern, you know,

2240
03:04:14,880 --> 03:04:19,520
determined that we want this door to
have access control on it, this system

2241
03:04:17,760 --> 03:04:21,520
can scale out and do that. we can add on
to it.

2242
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:23,520
» That was really the only question I
really had.

2243
03:04:22,319 --> 03:04:26,479
» And that was the problem. The current
system, both all three systems that we

2244
03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:29,279
currently have, we cannot do that.
They're they're old. They've reached

2245
03:04:27,760 --> 03:04:33,920
their end of the life and and finding
the parts are is a problem. Um,

2246
03:04:32,080 --> 03:04:38,399
» and how long would it take to implement
this?

2247
03:04:35,200 --> 03:04:43,200
» There's clear on how you wanted to
schedule it.

2248
03:04:40,800 --> 03:04:49,800
» Within three, six months, you could have
it all switched out.

2249
03:04:45,120 --> 03:04:49,800
» We got the money. He's found the money.

2250
03:04:49,840 --> 03:04:57,520
around the court systems and people
coming in. We'd have to work around the

2251
03:04:53,600 --> 03:05:00,080
the evening hours for all of that to to
>> and then act,

2252
03:04:58,640 --> 03:05:05,520
» right? And then everyone would get
another badge or whatever

2253
03:05:02,160 --> 03:05:09,359
» or some most of them would.
>> I would suggest that new badges, but you

2254
03:05:07,920 --> 03:05:15,680
can reuse some of the badges that you
have, but I would suggest

2255
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:18,800
» who in this area has the system.
>> Oh goodness. Glen County has it. I've

2256
03:05:17,439 --> 03:05:22,000
talked with them. They had they said
don't go leave and look at anybody else.

2257
03:05:20,479 --> 03:05:25,600
I've asked some other counties. I don't
remember. It's been so long, but there

2258
03:05:24,319 --> 03:05:30,080
are county,
>> but Glen County is one of the

2259
03:05:28,240 --> 03:05:35,680
» Do you know of any other?
>> So, yeah, they actually have this in

2260
03:05:33,040 --> 03:05:40,000
Atlanta, Fton County. So, and I'll tell
you is with you guys being with all the

2261
03:05:38,240 --> 03:05:44,880
stuff. This is a system that's built
more for um like a cyber secure. I don't

2262
03:05:43,520 --> 03:05:48,399
know if you guys have heard what's going
on with like Newton County and what's

2263
03:05:46,720 --> 03:05:52,640
going on with surrounding counties in
Georgia right now, but they're holding

2264
03:05:50,240 --> 03:05:57,120
these counties And this system is built
around that to prevent this stuff from

2265
03:05:55,120 --> 03:06:01,920
happening. So there is a lot of counties
in Atlanta that do use Genitech. Um we

2266
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:05,279
are now finding that more schools are
actually going to Genitech uh for that

2267
03:06:04,319 --> 03:06:13,200
very reason.
>> Clint, who will actually uh

2268
03:06:09,920 --> 03:06:18,399
monitor or manage the system?
>> So this system the way it's done now is

2269
03:06:16,800 --> 03:06:21,520
managed by like different people. This
system will be integrated in with our

2270
03:06:19,920 --> 03:06:25,439
network security. So when we create a
user, when we set up your email, uh

2271
03:06:23,680 --> 03:06:29,279
it'll put you in a department and being
in that department will give you the

2272
03:06:26,800 --> 03:06:33,520
access that you need. Um when that
person separates employment or is

2273
03:06:31,439 --> 03:06:35,680
separated, it removes that access
instantly.

2274
03:06:34,399 --> 03:06:38,080
» So there's [clears throat] no one
particular

2275
03:06:37,680 --> 03:06:42,720
» again
>> person that you can say manage the whole

2276
03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:47,439
entire system for the county.
>> Again, it would be it.

2277
03:06:45,040 --> 03:06:53,560
» Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Okay.
>> But Mr. share again, you know, uh

2278
03:06:53,920 --> 03:06:58,880
if if we can just keep keep the the
question limited, you know, whatever

2279
03:06:57,680 --> 03:07:02,720
you're dealing with. I mean, on a
serious note, when whenever you're

2280
03:07:00,080 --> 03:07:06,479
dealing with uh
>> let let me tell y'all about scammers,

2281
03:07:04,479 --> 03:07:09,200
man, let
>> we going home now.

2282
03:07:07,439 --> 03:07:13,840
» Yeah, I know. So, that's why I'm just
saying let's just listen. When whenever

2283
03:07:12,000 --> 03:07:18,000
whenever they make a whole song now
about scammers,

2284
03:07:16,160 --> 03:07:21,359
» Yeah. Y'all, I know y'all probably don't
listen to that station, but it is a

2285
03:07:19,680 --> 03:07:26,240
whole song out there about how they spin
it. So, in other words, if we can just

2286
03:07:24,240 --> 03:07:28,640
not ask too many questions about about
security on a serious note.

2287
03:07:28,000 --> 03:07:32,479
» Thank you.
>> U and what I'm asking for tonight is for

2288
03:07:30,479 --> 03:07:34,720
the board to approve you or the
chairman.

2289
03:07:33,920 --> 03:07:40,640
» Authorized chairman.
>> Authorized chairman to sign a contract

2290
03:07:37,120 --> 03:07:44,240
for the uh $71,000 purchase um
contingent upon the county attorney

2291
03:07:42,399 --> 03:07:47,439
approving the contract. I got one
question that you said that that funding

2292
03:07:46,640 --> 03:07:49,439
is available.
>> Yes, sir.

2293
03:07:48,080 --> 03:07:54,080
» Okay, Mr. Chairman, I'm ready for a
motion. I'll make that motion. Chairman

2294
03:07:52,240 --> 03:07:57,279
second motion and a second that we
approve the request presented. Any

2295
03:07:55,840 --> 03:08:03,600
further discussion? Think we had plenty.
All in favor? Show of hands. All right.

2296
03:08:00,000 --> 03:08:06,080
Thank you, Mr. Stanley.
>> Look forward to enhancement of our

2297
03:08:05,359 --> 03:08:11,359
security system.
>> Didn't he didn't he say that's a minimum

2298
03:08:08,399 --> 03:08:15,200
investment?
>> All right.

2299
03:08:13,040 --> 03:08:20,160
My readings
item G.

2300
03:08:17,680 --> 03:08:26,319
» Yes, Mr. Chairman.
The uh committee has met and reviewed

2301
03:08:23,840 --> 03:08:31,479
the applications.
had one each for um

2302
03:08:34,399 --> 03:08:43,120
the uh date fund
and uh applicant is the Liberty County

2303
03:08:40,960 --> 03:08:52,600
Boys and Girls Club submitted
application and we um agreed to approve

2304
03:08:48,080 --> 03:08:52,600
the amount requested was $5,000.

2305
03:08:52,720 --> 03:08:58,960
» That would be my motion, Mr. Chairman.
>> Second, Mr. Motion second. We approve

2306
03:08:56,720 --> 03:09:02,960
the allocation of the funds to Li County
Boys and Girl. I see Miss Ed.

2307
03:09:02,240 --> 03:09:06,479
» Oh,
>> all in favor? Show of hands, please.

2308
03:09:04,720 --> 03:09:11,200
» All right. Second.
>> Yes, sir. Also, the uh Liberty County

2309
03:09:08,720 --> 03:09:17,040
Boys and Girls Club submitted
uh application for the opioid settlement

2310
03:09:14,399 --> 03:09:22,479
fund for $20,000. These funds are
available and uh I would make a motion

2311
03:09:20,399 --> 03:09:26,960
we approve the application for $20,000.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2312
03:09:23,359 --> 03:09:26,960
» Mr. Chair, I got it.

2313
03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:35,200
Since you're sitting out there, Miss
War, Miss Green,

2314
03:09:33,040 --> 03:09:39,920
» um, got one question. I know a while
back you were connected with the Boys

2315
03:09:37,439 --> 03:09:45,240
and Girls Club in Savannah, correct?
>> Yes, sir.

2316
03:09:40,720 --> 03:09:45,240
» Are you still connected with them?

2317
03:09:45,279 --> 03:09:53,120
» So, this funds will be used only for
Liberty County.

2318
03:09:50,960 --> 03:09:56,000
» Absolutely.
Not

2319
03:09:58,640 --> 03:10:02,120
to help us.

2320
03:10:03,680 --> 03:10:07,479
» Okay. So, you

2321
03:10:13,359 --> 03:10:18,200
» already have 54 kids

2322
03:10:22,240 --> 03:10:25,359
had to come away.

2323
03:10:33,680 --> 03:10:38,399
What a grateful. Thank you. And I will
spread the word.

2324
03:10:37,520 --> 03:10:43,680
» All right.
>> No problem.

2325
03:10:40,080 --> 03:10:48,800
» Okay. You want to make com
>> comment before we vote?

2326
03:10:44,960 --> 03:10:53,120
» Uh, y'all got a motion? We need a vote.
>> Vote.

2327
03:10:49,120 --> 03:10:56,080
» Oh. Um, uh, Commissioner Emma, you can
do I'll let you do so. Just just make

2328
03:10:54,560 --> 03:10:59,359
the statement. [laughter]
>> And, uh, on what we're talking about

2329
03:10:58,000 --> 03:11:04,479
here, I just like to make it known to
the to the taxpayers that, uh, without

2330
03:11:02,399 --> 03:11:08,399
going into great detail, but this is not
actually tax money that's coming from

2331
03:11:06,319 --> 03:11:10,960
the taxpayer and all. I just want to
make that clear. This is money that's

2332
03:11:09,840 --> 03:11:16,399
been settled
>> from different court cases and different

2333
03:11:12,880 --> 03:11:20,319
thing that goes back into the system.
as plain as I know how to explain.

2334
03:11:18,560 --> 03:11:25,279
» You did a good job, sir.
>> Um, Mr. I just ask you that if I read

2335
03:11:23,200 --> 03:11:29,359
item G without being here, I would
assume that all this is date funds. You

2336
03:11:27,279 --> 03:11:32,160
need to make the notation that this the
20,000 is opiate.

2337
03:11:31,359 --> 03:11:35,120
» Yes, sir. Okay.
>> Okay. Yes, sir.

2338
03:11:33,040 --> 03:11:40,399
» Just for clarity.
>> Okay. All in favor?

2339
03:11:38,000 --> 03:11:44,720
All right. Thank you, Miss for what you
do in the community.

2340
03:11:42,560 --> 03:11:49,040
» A whole lot more to me, sir. and you and
your team.

2341
03:11:46,319 --> 03:11:55,600
» Oh yeah. Uh C Councilman Kelly as well.
>> Yeah, but she know she works hard over

2342
03:11:52,800 --> 03:11:56,640
there.
>> Okay. Go ahead,

2343
03:11:56,399 --> 03:12:04,200
» sir.
>> Uh Mr. Chair, quickly, uh EMA Bob

2344
03:11:59,439 --> 03:12:04,200
received a final check for $33,6496

2345
03:12:04,240 --> 03:12:12,560
for the remaining Hurricane Helen
projects. Uh he's waiting to get some

2346
03:12:08,479 --> 03:12:17,439
money from category Z. under finances.
Uh we are assembling the actors that you

2347
03:12:15,279 --> 03:12:20,479
heard the other day. Uh talk about the
water reclamation facility, the

2348
03:12:19,040 --> 03:12:26,240
financing of that
>> and also I noted I share with chairman

2349
03:12:23,760 --> 03:12:30,880
is that we're eligible to receive
$130,000 from the tree act, right?

2350
03:12:28,960 --> 03:12:35,359
» Uh that money is sitting there. I was
contacted by ACCG to apply for those

2351
03:12:33,040 --> 03:12:38,800
funds and uh Samantha and I are going to
sit down and we're going to put together

2352
03:12:36,880 --> 03:12:42,319
the application and we'll bring back a
resolution because that's one of the

2353
03:12:40,000 --> 03:12:46,160
requirements at the uh next commission
meeting to get that completed and we

2354
03:12:44,240 --> 03:12:50,960
will apply for those funds. Uh
Commissioner um Stevens was alluding to

2355
03:12:48,960 --> 03:12:57,520
on landfield. We received a letter from
EPD uh from anc inspection that was done

2356
03:12:54,080 --> 03:13:00,960
on March the 4th, 2026 and it highlights
several issues that need to be resolved.

2357
03:12:59,120 --> 03:13:05,279
Larry Myers, who's our environment
engineer, has worked with uh Clinton

2358
03:13:02,960 --> 03:13:09,600
Wales to address those issues and he's
going to submit a letter and we're going

2359
03:13:06,560 --> 03:13:14,399
to send it to EPD to show to show how we
plan to mitigate other areas. Uh y'all

2360
03:13:12,399 --> 03:13:17,600
just went over security for the annex.
Uh

2361
03:13:16,240 --> 03:13:25,439
one of the things that came out and I
was talking to uh Mr. Payne was we got

2362
03:13:21,680 --> 03:13:30,560
our um preliminary do sales tax ratio
and it looked good. Um I'm asking Keith

2363
03:13:27,920 --> 03:13:34,239
to come to the uh work session and to
talk about in details, but they're

2364
03:13:32,319 --> 03:13:38,239
within range and they were at 38%. He
said normally they like to see 36 to

2365
03:13:36,000 --> 03:13:41,760
42%. So we're in that good sweet spot,
but he's going to come [clears throat]

2366
03:13:39,359 --> 03:13:46,880
and explain that in detail. Uh also in
your packet is a notification for the

2367
03:13:44,960 --> 03:13:51,279
city of Riceboro. They want to do some
annexation and particularly uh it

2368
03:13:49,279 --> 03:13:54,000
involves land owned by the Mount Zion
Missionary Baptist Church there and they

2369
03:13:52,880 --> 03:13:56,720
want to build some houses there.
>> New Zion.

2370
03:13:54,800 --> 03:14:00,560
» I'm about to say I'm sorry.
Man, listen. Mount Zion. Yeah. Yeah. We

2371
03:13:58,479 --> 03:14:04,960
we not selling.
That's on EB Cooper Road. And one of the

2372
03:14:02,880 --> 03:14:09,680
things they noted in the in in the
request was we had to protest that we

2373
03:14:07,520 --> 03:14:11,840
had facilities in the area and we do not
have any count.

2374
03:14:10,319 --> 03:14:15,760
» We don't have any.
>> And last thing I want to note, Mr. share

2375
03:14:14,000 --> 03:14:21,840
is that we have a ribbon cutting for our
new MS station on September 3rd at 9:00

2376
03:14:19,040 --> 03:14:27,040
a.m.
>> At the next meeting, will you bring us

2377
03:14:23,359 --> 03:14:33,520
up to date on item one
or did you do it just now?

2378
03:14:29,439 --> 03:14:38,000
» Uh, let me Okay, got I'll bring up the
>> Okay, good.

2379
03:14:35,120 --> 03:14:41,840
» I know you and Commissioner
Thrift and Blunt are doing that. So,

2380
03:14:40,160 --> 03:14:44,319
yes, sir. We'll we'll dig a little
deeper. We got another meeting.

2381
03:14:43,359 --> 03:14:47,120
» Okay.
>> All right.

2382
03:14:44,880 --> 03:14:52,000
» Oh, just real quick, I I appreciate the
support with uh for our our STEM uh day

2383
03:14:50,560 --> 03:14:57,520
camp that we had.
>> Uh we had what 30 participants and uh

2384
03:14:55,359 --> 03:15:02,640
we're looking at bringing it back uh in
the in the spring. Of course, you know,

2385
03:14:59,680 --> 03:15:07,279
the commission that's that's part of our
whole youth

2386
03:15:04,560 --> 03:15:14,800
uh initiative. And it was sold out in
what two days? No, but yeah, one day.

2387
03:15:12,080 --> 03:15:19,359
And Mr. Mosie, just for the rest of the
board, we do have a some of us have a

2388
03:15:17,520 --> 03:15:24,479
meeting scheduled on the
>> 10th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Thank you,

2389
03:15:22,160 --> 03:15:30,880
sir. Thank you, sir. Uh for our county
workshop. Um

2390
03:15:27,279 --> 03:15:34,239
uh talk to Maria. She's got rooms and
what she want to do is make sure from

2391
03:15:32,399 --> 03:15:37,520
you guys, all you guys planning to go
and if y'all are, we're going to

2392
03:15:36,000 --> 03:15:42,160
complete your application so we can
submit and pay the registration fees.

2393
03:15:39,760 --> 03:15:46,479
So, is everybody here going?
Commissioner Frasier,

2394
03:15:44,399 --> 03:15:48,880
» hey, I responded.
>> Well, she's she's been out of pocket and

2395
03:15:48,080 --> 03:15:49,920
we're trying to
>> My bad.

2396
03:15:49,439 --> 03:15:53,520
» Yeah.
>> We're trying to make sure everything

2397
03:15:51,680 --> 03:15:57,920
» Yeah. I I was I was actually talking
about the 10th that we meet on the

2398
03:15:56,399 --> 03:16:00,399
project in Riceboro
>> and on August.

2399
03:15:59,840 --> 03:16:07,600
» Oh, is that
>> I mean August.

2400
03:16:02,239 --> 03:16:11,359
» Uh so we'll send the time out.
>> Okay. All right.

2401
03:16:09,439 --> 03:16:16,640
So, what Commissioner Stevens is
alluding to, we're meeting with the uh

2402
03:16:13,680 --> 03:16:23,279
PA pastors and concerned citizens around
a roundabout at uh SR119 in Bariton

2403
03:16:21,120 --> 03:16:25,760
Ferry as we get ready to plan that
roundabout. So, we're going to be

2404
03:16:24,720 --> 03:16:26,720
meeting [clears throat] with them out in
the field,

2405
03:16:26,399 --> 03:16:29,760
» right?
>> Uh to look at it one more time. So,

2406
03:16:28,399 --> 03:16:36,160
that's what he's alluding to.
>> Yeah. Okay.

2407
03:16:32,640 --> 03:16:40,080
» All right. All right. Good. The agenda
that's just a carry over from last time

2408
03:16:38,960 --> 03:16:42,640
executive session. We don't have
>> No, sir. We will talk about that later.

2409
03:16:41,439 --> 03:16:44,720
But yes, sir.
>> We're good. We're good.

2410
03:16:43,439 --> 03:16:51,560
» We're good.
>> Let's go home. Shar motion to journ.

2411
03:16:48,080 --> 03:16:51,560
» All in favor?

2412
03:16:54,080 --> 03:16:57,880
Patrick, we got our money.