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All right, welcome everybody to our Tuesday May 7th Council meeting. We are back to start our 6 p.m. workshop with wonderful topics of talking trash again, and 25 legislative agenda. So I'm going to turn so we're to mark.

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All right. Thank you, Mayor. And members of the council, as you'll see as we walk through this.

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The first thing that I want to let everyone know as we enter into this discussion is that this is a starting point and just that provides some information for you to chew on.

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Get you an opportunity to ask questions and maybe have some discussion about the topic and set some preferences about what staff does going forward.

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we're not, although there will be a recommendation at the end of the presentation, we're not expecting for a final decision to come from tonight's conversation.

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So I just wanted to kind of set the stage for what to expect as we go through this.

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And so if we can queue up the presentation, we will start, if you go to the next slide with just kind of a backstory.

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and I'm specifically now going to be talking, starting here with this slide and going through

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the remainder of the presentation in the context of our existing solid waste collection agreement.

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So we're not going to be delving into the solid waste management plan or the county-wide

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system, although those are related topics. They're not directly related to the discussion we have in

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of us tonight talking about the collection contract. And so if you look at the kind of the history going

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back to 2014 when two kind of parallel contracts were executed, you'll see what's in place.

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We have an agreement with waste management for solid waste collection that was executed back in September

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of 2014 and it expires on November 30th of 2024, almost identical contract with Sunshine to

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Sposal, executed in November, also expires on November 30th of 2024, and then we have a couple

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of amendments to the waste management agreement, and they make very minor modifications to the

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of the contract, but they don't change the expiration of the contract. So those two amendments

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would carry through the expiration of the contract in any renewals. And so that's kind of the

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backdrop that we will start the discussion around. And if we can go to the next slide, please. And then

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going and delving directly into solid waste options.

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And these are focused primarily on the residential customers.

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And if you look going from top left to bottom right,

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you'll see that for garbage, we do have the contract

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with waste management.

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We have contract rates there that's a curbside service.

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And then as you go from left to right,

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you see the difference is there.

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So essentially, residential customers in Liberty Lake

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have a curbside option and a self-haul option.

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And so you are not required to have garbage service

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through the waste management contract.

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If you choose not to have that service or subscribe

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to that service, your only other option is to self-haul

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to either the sunshine transfer station, which

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is on university or any of the county facilities.

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We have contract rates at the sunshine facility,

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we have prevailing rates at the county facilities. And so that holds for the rest of those cells

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on the table. And so the only other thing that I wanted to point out is that you can be a

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recycle only customer in Liberty Lake through the waste management contract, but you cannot be a

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garbage only customer. So if you subscribe to the solid waste garbage curbside service, you are

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automatically enrolled in the recycled service.

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There's also an organics service that you can subscribe to

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and then the bulky waste and this will come into play

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further when we get into an analysis of the rates.

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The bulky is handled either as a cell fall option,

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one of these other facilities or in the annual event

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that waste management partners with us on,

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was just a week or so ago at a town square park.

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There is no curbside household hazardous waste option,

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but there is a self-al option at all of the county facilities.

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If we can go to the next slide, please.

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And so this is just to give you some statistics

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from the, not from the beginning of the contract itself,

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but going back to 2018 is when we have access

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to these residential and commercial customer accounts,

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you'll see, and those lines at the top are indistinguishable

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because of the condition that I mentioned earlier,

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where if you're a garbage customer,

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you're automatically enrolled in the recycling

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curbside program.

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And so those two top lines run almost identically

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from left to right.

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And you can see that there's a trend upward

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and you would expect that.

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We're a growing community and you would expect

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to see the number of residential customers for,

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both garbage and recycling on the increase and they are.

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And then also for the residential organics,

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you can see, not quite as high of a trend,

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but still trending upward.

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Next slide, please.

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Same look for commercial customers,

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and you'll see the scale is a little bit different,

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but you've got a little bit sharper slope

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on the commercial side.

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The top line is the commercial garbage customers,

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the bottom line is the roll-off commercial customers and you see that's holding pretty steady

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going back from 2018 through the end of 2023. Next slide please.

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Total tonnage collected

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and you can see that top line is residential, I'm sorry this is all customer types but that's

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garbage and you can see the trend again heading upward in the interest thing if you did some statistical

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modeling on this, the slopes of the total tonage on garbage and the number of customers is

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almost the same, meaning that you're adding the same amount of units as you increase time.

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And so those are tracking almost identically. And then you see the recycle and the organics

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below that. And it's interesting and you can as a customer probably understand why the organics

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line is doing the EKG deal there because you have heavy months in spring summer and less heavy

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months in winter and you're seeing that reflected in the tonnage there. Next slide please.

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This is just another example of some data that we're able to get through waste management

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and you see the average set out way. It's interesting that on the garbage side there's not much

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a change. It's it's pretty steady and so although the number of customers are increasing and the

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tonnage is increasing overall the average set-out weight is about the same and so you're not

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getting more garbage on average per person or at least from a weight perspective you're not getting

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more and you see the variability of the organics which you would expect again seasonally.

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Next slide please and so now we're going to talk about the rates and look at some information not only

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about the Liberty Lake rates, but about some neighbors as well.

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If you look at the residential rates, and you see those are the different components.

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And there are, if you look at the rate schedule, there are dozens of rates, right?

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So we, we're not reflecting all of those on this chart.

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What we're doing is we're taking a hypothetical customer using a 64 gallon trash bin, a 64 gallon

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I'm sorry, the given recycle bin and then the yard waste bin and adding all of those components as if you had all of those services and so that's the rate that you see this isn't necessarily everyone's rate in the city as a as a residential customer this is just an example of the rates as they are demonstrated in the rate schedule.

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And so as you can see, going from 2015, the first year that the rates were really applied

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on January 1, 2015 and then going through our rate that were set in December of 2023

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for 2024, you see the increase there and we have a rate accelerator that I'll explain in a

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moment, but I want to explain that red bar at the bottom of all of those columns except

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to the 2024 column. What that is is the recycle commodity credit. And so in our contract,

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we have a recycle commodity credit that is applied annually as part of the rate. And so in

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all of those years between 2015 and 2023, that was a credit that was going back to the customer.

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So in essence, you would take the size of that red portion and shave it off the top. So it's actually

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lowering the rate because it's a credit and 2024 that credit is a negative number or a positive

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number. It's a charge, not a credit. And so in effect between 2023 and 2024 there was a bit

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of a price increase that was above the normal CPI rated adjustment. And so that's a difference in

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our rate structure as opposed to some of our other jurisdictions that surround us.

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And so, as you look at that, you see the entries, but you have to factor in that commodity

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credit and we'll talk a little bit more about that in the next couple of slides.

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If we can go to the next slide, please.

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And if anywhere in here, please stop me if you have questions.

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I don't want to overlook any questions.

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We talked about the Liberty Lake rate, the contract rate for the duration of the contract so far and now if we look at a little bit of the comparison between some of the other jurisdictions that are around us.

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I wanted to show you a couple of other examples of WM contracts and then one that is not.

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And the one that is not is Cheney, they conduct the service as a service of the city, it's a city department.

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And so you can see the impact on the rates there.

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We're using 2024 rates in this table.

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And so again, we're just picking some things out of the rate schedule that would be possible to choose as a residential customer.

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So you've got a 64 gallon garbage container.

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It's possible that you have an extra garbage container.

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There's a rate for that, a 64 gallon recyclable container,

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and then yard food, yard only, and bulky.

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And you see down at the bottom line there, the differences.

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The one thing that I do want to point out,

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especially as it pertains to comparing us

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with the other two WM contract cities, Spokane Valley,

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and Airway Heights, for example, Spokane Valley

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does not have the commodity contract, I mean the commodity credit, neither does airway

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heights, Spokane Valley has a item rate on their bulk pickup, and so for example, if you

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were to get rid of a refrigerator and a mattress in a year, the costs for those two things

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is about $65. And so if you spread that $65 over 12 months, we're all of a sudden equal.

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If you count the credit, especially from the last seven years,

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our rate is even lower than that.

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Same comparison with airway.

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They don't have the credit.

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And so when you count the credit into this,

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this year, it will have the opposite effect.

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But in the previous years,

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you would see where that would have a downward drag on our rate,

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as compared to airway and Spookan Valley.

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Any questions about that?

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Okay.

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And so, that's not a cargles online.

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So if somebody sees that he has a question because we're trying to get me in.

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Good point.

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Next slide, please.

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So we talked earlier about the increase and why you saw the rise in rates.

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Well, the contract has a clause in there where there is an acceleration.

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and an adjustment, an annual adjustment,

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and then other types of adjustments that are possible

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in the annual adjustment,

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which is indexed to the consumer price index,

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and you see it across the board here,

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again, with the same comparables,

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the rate is broken down into two components.

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You have a service component and a disposal component,

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and you can see for resident,

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And residential customers in Liberty Lake, the service component is indexed at 100% of the CPI,

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whereas the disposal component is indexed at 90% of the CPI.

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So whatever the CPI is, factored between August and August, you would take 90% of that

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apply it to the disposal rate and that's your increase.

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On the service side, it would be the full CPI number.

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And then for material and other changes, those are upon request, and they have to be in writing.

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The difference between Liberty Lake and say Spokane Valley is that they are indexed on both components of the rate at 90%.

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And Airway has an outside MOU that dictates the increase on the disposal component.

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And so some, some differences there.

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Cheney, they, they adjust their rates annually based on a rate review.

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Similar to the rate review.

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We conduct annually as part of our budget process since it's a city service.

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They do that in.

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Next slide, please. Some of the other adjustments that we've experienced in the 10, almost 10 years that the contract has been in effect.

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In section 83 of the contract, it provides for adjustments for changes to taxes fees and other things.

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And we've had one of those in the 10 years since the contract was executed.

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And that occurred in April of 2020 and it was related to a state law regarding the B&O tax. Next slide, please.

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We also had as stipulated by Section 84 in the contract, a periodic adjustment due to extraordinary circumstances and we've had one of those in addition to the annual increases that occurred in September of 2018 and that was related to some of the recycle commodity pricing that was occurring that caused increased processing costs.

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and so there was a there was an adjustment that was factored into the rate based on that next

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slide please. And section eight six there is a clause that allows for there to be some

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adjustments based on the tariff we've had one of those that occurred in December 2016 and it was

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related to moving from tariff number 17 to tariff number 18 and then next slide and then there

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There's a force, measure, clause, and the contract, which is a common clause in most contracts.

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And we've had force, measure, and vote once, and probably, like most contracts across

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the country, there was a force, measure, and vote as a result of COVID-19 emergency declaration.

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Next slide, please.

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There is a dispute, controversies, or claims, clause, and the contract section 25.

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that we've had zero disputes controversies or claims in the next slide.

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We don't have one system that allows us to track and understand the volume of incoming

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requests.

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And if we look at that data, we've had statistically zero complaints that have come through

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that system related to our solid waste provider.

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And it totally, when you talk to the people

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who collect calls and emails and other things

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related to city services,

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we've had almost zero complaints concerns

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about the solid waste collection service that we're getting.

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I've been here now, almost two years, I've received exactly one, and so if that gives you any indication.

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Now, that's not to say that customer complaints aren't going to the customer service center at WM.

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I'm sure they are, but none of those are rising to the level where people believe that they're not getting satisfactory responses,

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and so they bring that to city hall. We're just not seeing that.

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And so I'm going to pause here and that's a lot of information fairly quickly and so I want to give Council at this point the opportunity to ask any questions or start any discussion on any of these points before we go to the next slide and then beyond.

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I've got one and now I'm up and running. Thank you guys for doing that.

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Mayor Pertem.

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Mark, just a quick question for you. The numbers that you showed earlier, do they include the utility tax that we had charged prior to this year in those right numbers?

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Not in the rates, so the tax would be applied on the invoice that goes out to the customer separate from the rate. Okay. Thank you.

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Council member Kurtz, do you have any data on how often people use the bulky waste?

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Like the event that we just had last week and how many of our residents actually use that versus maybe like

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like Spokane Valley where you have I think the Spokane Valley where you have to pay to bring over whatever it is.

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Do we have any way of tracking the volume of cars that come in?

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We can find that out.

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I can offer that we had a little over 300 coupons collected last weekend.

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Thanks, Jen.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else?

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I don't see any.

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So again, I'll reiterate that this was designed to be the starting point of a conversation.

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And so if we can go to the next slide.

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the staff's recommendation at this point in reflection of everything that you've seen and we've talked about this evening is to extend the agreement between the city and waste management of Washington for an additional six year term that is stipulated in the contract and section two.

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And to do that, it requires written notification by us to WN by September the second, it requires 90 days prior to the expiration.

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And so what that would do is increase or expand the effect of date and make it from December the 21st, 2024 to November 30 of 2030.

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And so with that, again, I'll pause and say, this is not something that we expect.

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And answer on this evening, we know that there are considerations that need to be made.

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And you all need to have some discussion with yourselves and with us.

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But that is the starting point for what comes next.

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And I will say that if Council, at some point agrees and makes the decision to take staff's recommendation.

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We have plenty of time obviously to submit this written notification to WM.

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on the other side, however, if Council does not accept staff's recommendation, we need to

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hustle because we will have to go through a solicitation in a fairly short amount of

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time.

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It's possible we can do it, but we have essentially between now and November 30 to get all

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of that done.

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and so I'll just open the floor again for questions, comments, concerns.

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I'll go to the council member, Ballon, and then Mayor Pertum Parkle.

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Mark, my question though, is do we have any other options? Are they kind of the only game in town?

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So currently, they are our contract provider. If we go out on the market, yes, I would anticipate

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there would be other companies that would bid on that service,

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but currently WM is our contract provider.

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Right, I understand that.

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Okay, county being one of them as well, right?

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I mean, I know, I don't know if the council member done was around in those days too.

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They were that way for their position to be able to do that.

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Okay, I was just a little bit concerned about this for a little bit of not curbside.

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Yeah.

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Hold on.

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We got care.

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Mayor Pro Tem and then Councilmember Kennedy.

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Mark the anticipate any major.

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If we extend the agreement, any major changes to any of the.

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Increases or possible increases or different parts of the contract that they've used over the past.

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contracts?

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I would say that it would be our intent, ours meaning staffs to go back and open a discussion for some amended language in certain sections of the contract to address those things.

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exactly what, and which sections, and what those recommendations would be, we'd have to sit down and do some additional analysis, but that would be our expectation.

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Councillor for Kennedy.

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Thank you.

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Why would this not be open for a competitive bid?

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Well, there's no reason why it can't be.

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We have an option inside of the contract to extend it in six year intervals and unlimited number of those.

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Right. I understand that.

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And so there's no reason why it can't be competitively bid.

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But that's not staff recommendation at this point.

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That's when we're done.

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Great dating here, Mark, regarding the significant, I'd say,

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more than I could performance in the current contract.

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that I support the removal.

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That's remember it's Spencer.

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Thanks, Mayor.

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So I guess I have a couple of questions.

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So the first one is kind of piggybacking

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on Council Member Kirsis question regarding the event.

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Did you say in the presentation that we're all essentially

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paying for that event and were ties out throughout the year

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essentially?

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Well, we're getting, so the bulky service

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is being conducted by way of an annual event.

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So in some way, it's built into the rate, sure.

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But it's not a direct charge, whereas, say, for example,

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in Spoken Valley, if you were to put something out on the curb,

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they would pick it up.

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But as an example, if it was a refrigerator,

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they would charge you $41.

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And so whatever the rate schedule is determined on that item,

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whatever it is, they would charge you for that at the curb

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on the almost at a point of sale basis each time you did it.

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So essentially, if we were to remove the event and either revert to something similar or

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or just have residents take the refrigerator down to the,

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yeah, I'm not sure what it's called, but it's the transportation.

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I'm just curious how that would affect the rates.

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that would have to be, we would have to enter into a discussion to determine that, but

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and just to clarify, and I don't think that this is what you meant, but residents can

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do that now. They can take things to the, yeah, okay. But the answer is, it would have

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some impact, what exactly that number would be, I'm not sure.

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And I just want to follow up question, because as the rates started going up, and I actually made a call to a waste management to kind of get some clarification. Sorry, I'd already had an idea of what was going on here.

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Do we have any idea as to because the explanation I was given was essentially that the recycling wasn't selling for as much as it had in the past essentially is that is that appear to be a trend going forward?

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It's hard to say, if you look at the past history going back to 2015, the trend is that the credit was applied.

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There was a variation in what the number was, but it was always a credit between 2015 and in 2023.

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I think nationally, the trend is right now, at least for the foreseeable couple of years, is that commodity rates on recycling are going to continue to fall.

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how long that lasts? I don't know that anyone knows.

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There are, you know, this, like, many other things

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when you're dealing with world markets have so many variables

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that it's hard to put your finger on one of them

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and say, that's the cause and we need to look at that.

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But I would think that over the next couple of years,

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at least, we would see a continued downward trend

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in the commodity market, which would spell an upward trend in our commodity credit, similar

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to what you see in 2024.

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Right.

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It counts miracle.

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I, since I moved a liberty lake, I've been troubled with the fact that compost is extra,

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you know, and see you have to have that extra can, when I lived in Seattle, it was included.

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And I think it should be and I don't know if there's any way that it happened, but I just think it's not a lot of money for, you know, a service that could be provided.

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I also would like to say that and I've had some neighbors say the same thing to me.

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It seems like in the last year they're getting more careless with, you know, the little arms pick up your cannon.

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and have a time it's not empty.

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And I just think they need to be more mindful.

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Maybe get out of the truck every now and then and check

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and not drop them and leave the lid open.

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Sure, especially when the wind's blowing.

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So.

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And those are, like I said, those are what I would consider

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to be customer service issues that to reiterate the point

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from earlier, haven't risen to the level

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or have been frequent enough that they've come here.

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But I think to address that, we can invite WM to come back at a future council meeting and to

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delve deeper into kind of some customer service issues that may be out there and what their strategies are for not only

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addressing them now, but going into the future, that would be something that is an option.

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If you wanted to hear more of that information from the service provider, we can absolutely do that.

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Yeah, I would. I just think we're getting a little bit sloppy.

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but Evan, if you can go back, just a quick note that that's, I appreciate the

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comments. It's not really our topic tonight, so we can stay on topic and then we'll get to

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you Councilman McCurts. And go ahead and fire away and I'll go back and mine was a little bit

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related to Linda's because of something else, but I think that would be a good like a town hall

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topic. I mean if we're interested in residents' input on whether we should continue with this

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contract, maybe that would be something that we do and advertise a little bit more heavily as

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One

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Residents, if they haven't input in their garbage service to do something like that.

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But then my other question was a little bit about the composting piece too.

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As an educational piece, I think that in other cities you have access to the compost when it is composted.

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And if we, I would love to learn a little bit more about if that's an option for those of us that use the waste bins, the green bins.

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Sure. Maybe a little bit more information on some of the services that are available as a consumer.

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Well, and I would say as kind of a corollary to that, there are provisions in the current contract regarding education.

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And we would expect, I think, for those to be beefed up a little bit going forward if we renew.

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Even if you can go back to the comparison of the rates, I wanted to point something out at a high level here.

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Next one.

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Councillor Bole, if you see there on the spoken valley, they're the only one that has at least in this example.

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The recycled service is wrapped into the garbage fee.

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And so, yes, that would be possible to do, but as you can see there, that it has an impact on the rate, right,

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on at least on that portion of the rate. So, that would be something that we could discuss,

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absolutely good.

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If I may though, I think you were asking about the comp, the yard waste, the type of stuff, right?

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Right.

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And so it would be similar because we have, we have a charge there of,

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1417 that is obviously part of the 5634.

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Then again, not everybody does that.

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Correct.

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We bag our way.

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We mulch our one, another good thing to discuss.

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Hey, I think I've got, I got councilmember, mayor for 10 first, then back to councilmember Kennedy.

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Thanks, mayor.

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Mark, quick question.

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I think it's worth pointing out the challenges that we, we made

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experience if we decide to switch companies or switch providers, not necessarily as a city,

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but the residents of the city. And what that would all entail, I mean, I'm envisioning some

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scenario where, you know, sometime in October, everybody in the city has to put their empty bins

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out for waste management to come get them and then the new company would have to come in and

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distribute all new bends and and so I maybe this is not a question but rather a comment about how, at least to me, it's worth something or citizens to be able to just continue the process their familiar with the process that they know, the bins that they have and not have to worry about a change in a provider or maybe I'm not thinking about it the right way.

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please correct me if I'm not there is definitely non-monotory cost in any transition and so that would

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be something certainly that would it would be there. It's hard to quantify what that would be

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at a unit level but there's certainly going to be some transition area cost.

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I've got Mayor Kasparimer Kennedy's next. Thank you, Mayor.

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Question, extra garbage 472. I assume that's in there and the event if somebody has more that's

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We're flowing.

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You can, yes, you can have an extra container of certain sizes.

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And again, these are, we've picked five rates out

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of the entire rate schedule to kind of give an example.

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And this is one of them.

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But yes, that's the principle, as you would pay,

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this marginal cost for an extra container of some kind.

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Okay, then I'll kind of follow a comment that Garbage is one of the things that I love not having to worry about.

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I mean, everybody I take the can out, necessarily it disappears.

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I'm happy camper.

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The truck shows up of our granddaughters around.

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They wave at her.

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She gets a big thrill out of it and I get a big thrill of that also.

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But I do believe we have producer responsibility that if we're going to take any service.

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for our citizens that can if there's other options that we look at competitive bits. We

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consider that. I certainly agree with Mayor Protam Cargill's comment that the transition

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period can be a pain and inconvenience, but setting that aside our responsibilities to the citizens

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that we work for and the best contracts we can get for the service.

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All right, do we have anybody else?

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Well, let's move on.

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All right.

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So we're moving to next item.

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Looks like it.

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So next up is the legislative agenda.

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What do you think about it?

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So what you see in front of you,

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you have a printout of the 2024 legislative agenda that you adopted back.

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Sometimes late last year.

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And the reason that I wanted to have a brief conversation with you all about this today is because on May the 16th,

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AWC is going to kick off its 2025 state legislative priorities process.

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And I am fortunate enough to be a member on that committee this year, and so I wanted to take this opportunity to just kind of query council to find out if there are any high profile items that you want me to take into that process.

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This is not drafting our 2025 legislative priorities right now.

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It's a starting point for that, but this is more designed to hear from you as whether there are any high value targets that you want me to kind of promote through that process.

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And then I've got a follow-up question for you, but I'll let you address that one first.

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There are some discussion about that one first.

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I think I'm not ready to give you any ideas, just yet, like I feel like we just got done with the last one and I, so so I might need to wrap my brain around like give it a little bit of thought like you're saying, and this is just the starting point, but.

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Yeah, and to that point there are may 16th is the kickoff, but there are meetings through next September, and so there will be other opportunities.

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But I wanted to give you all the first kind of crack at it before the initial meeting.

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Oh, Mayor for Tim had a stand up.

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Thanks, Mayor. Just a real quick mark. First, I've been kind of disappointed in the past with with AWC and the direction they've headed in.

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that it's that has seemed more concerned about cities on the west side and the larger cities

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than then necessarily what we as smaller cities need or what our desires are. That having been said,

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I think one of the most important issues that we face is an issue that not a lot of other cities

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are size-faced and that is the cross border issue. The fact that we have a completely different

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business environment, that is less than a mile away from our city limits, that I think unfortunately,

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a lot of folks at AWC and some of the other larger cities, especially on the on the west side,

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don't recognize. I mean, you can you can raise attacks or you can raise a fee or you can add a new

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regulation and done in the bubble of of Puala, or Tacoma, or Seattle, or Everett, or wherever,

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folks necessarily have other options. You do it over here and you have the potential of folks

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just going across state lines and getting a completely different business climate. So to the

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extent that we could perhaps partner in the future with cities like Pullman and Vancouver and

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other border communities that face that same exact situation where they are not necessarily

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competing against the west side but competing against a completely different climate in

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and other state, I think that would be helpful.

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Mark and I have already been talking about that.

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I mentioned that I think several meetings ago.

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And so I've already had some discussions with our local reps and senators.

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Obviously, we've got some elections coming up.

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But we do have support here.

434
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,840
So I've got a task to get with Tate on for her to start pulling some of those cities

435
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,880
on that are on major state routes, interstates,

436
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,280
and getting some contact names so we can start to start hitting up at least the councils and

437
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,860
mares from those locations to then have get them engaged with their reps as well. So obviously

438
00:39:09,860 --> 00:39:17,000
any experience that you have that we can tap into, which I know is a lot greatly appreciative.

439
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:22,200
We are starting to go down that path and at least for the people I've talked to on this side,

440
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:28,340
of course, you know, there's the other side. They're all for trying to take it forward

441
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:36,760
Any other questions for any other comments for Mark with regards to 25?

442
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:41,880
Obviously we can bring this back for follow-up a little bit later.

443
00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:49,040
Yeah, and again, this is not setting the city's legislative priority for 2025 right now.

444
00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:52,000
We'll have plenty of opportunity to do that going forward.

445
00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:53,540
Yes, Madam Ball had a comment.

446
00:39:54,140 --> 00:39:58,940
Yeah, on here is this land purchasing construction of an Army National Guard Readiness Center.

447
00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:02,760
I thought that was a dead soldier, no.

448
00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:03,820
That was what?

449
00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:06,800
Well, I thought it was the airport was getting it.

450
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,240
No, I can go through the history.

451
00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:09,660
I don't know.

452
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:15,300
It's the Army National Guard would like to land swap property

453
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,320
from the airport with DNR property here.

454
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,400
Remember, you like to put it here.

455
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,960
But there's a huge disparity in the values of this property.

456
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:22,760
Right. Right.

457
00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:23,640
And neither of us problem.

458
00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:27,550
Okay.

459
00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:49,970
Okay, second question on this, if you look on the 2024 legislative priorities handout down about midway through, there is a priority that we adopted that says reforming Washington's low carbon fuel standard and carbon tax.

460
00:40:51,650 --> 00:41:02,310
And so my question at this point is given that there is an initiative on the ballot in November.

461
00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:11,850
Does Council have any preference on drafting a resolution supporting or opposing any of those three initiatives,

462
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:16,430
specifically the one that is called out by our legislative priority.

463
00:41:16,450 --> 00:41:18,430
And the reason I bring this up is because

464
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:28,090
The PDC has some pretty specific rules on what individual council members can do or shouldn't do if there is no resolution passed.

465
00:41:29,710 --> 00:41:40,310
And those are essentially that individual council members can speak for the body if a resolution has been adopted by the council on a ballot measure.

466
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:42,870
And so I'm just putting that question out again.

467
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:44,330
It doesn't have to be answered tonight.

468
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:48,790
We have time prior to the November election for that to occur.

469
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:54,470
If council so chooses, but I wanted to put the question in front of you, in case you had any questions or wanted to discuss.

470
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Let's see anybody here.

471
00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:03,980
Council member Kurtz, I think if that's something that we're going to consider, I would like to have.

472
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:11,040
I feel like when we had a resolution earlier this year that was specific to something that was going on about it.

473
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:27,720
We didn't have both perspectives, we had one side, and so if we're going to consider doing a resolution, I would want to hear from both the pros and the cons, to be able to have a balanced discussion, balanced information in order to make a non-partisan decision.

474
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:38,220
Absolutely, and that's required as part of the resolution process that you would whatever side you're taking, you would allow equal time for the opposing side.

475
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,280
Mayor Pertem had a stand up.

476
00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:45,170
I'm good. Thank you.

477
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:45,670
Okay.

478
00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:48,330
All right. Anybody else? Councilmember Dunn.

479
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:53,370
I would prefer not to have resolutions voicing opinions regarding the city.

480
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:54,710
Follow the ballot initiatives.

481
00:42:55,630 --> 00:42:56,150
Yeah.

482
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Bring it back.

483
00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:04,660
Absolutely.

484
00:43:05,020 --> 00:43:05,320
I just wanted to.

485
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:06,380
We had Mayor.

486
00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:08,500
Mayor Pertem's hands back up.

487
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:08,960
Sorry.

488
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,720
I changed my mind.

489
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:09,960
Mark.

490
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:10,860
That's okay.

491
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,040
Just a quick follow-up.

492
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,780
you know, we have taken positions on ballot measures.

493
00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:19,920
That's not something we haven't done.

494
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,020
We did one on the jail one earlier this year.

495
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:27,380
Was it this year or late last year?

496
00:43:27,620 --> 00:43:27,900
Last year?

497
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,740
Late 23.

498
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,120
So I mean, it's not as if that's something we haven't done.

499
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,500
That haven't been said.

500
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,060
This is a state issue,

501
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,800
and I think the consensus that we had

502
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,160
when we put this into the legislative agenda

503
00:43:42,160 --> 00:44:09,320
It is not necessarily that it would be repealed, which some of us may personally favor, but that it would be reformed and it would change the impact that it was having specifically on our drivers, again going back to what I was mentioned earlier, the fact that, hey, if you go a mile to the east, you don't have to worry about the climate commitment act.

504
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,440
You don't have to worry about the extra 50 to 60 cents per gallon, it's costing you for gas.

505
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:26,400
So I think I understand both sides, but I think it does impact us perhaps a little bit more than other cities in terms of our,

506
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:35,160
what our citizens can do and go across the border and get a completely different price for fuel.

507
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:46,530
Councillor Spencer. Well, and I would just add that not only it affects the citizens, but it affects the businesses here on the side.

508
00:44:47,490 --> 00:44:47,910
Great.

509
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:56,650
And I see a potential to bring this back for a little longer workshop and discussion at that point.

510
00:44:56,930 --> 00:44:59,950
I mean, we can have somebody, you know, at before the resolution.

511
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:24,920
So, we'll put that on our future workshop. It'll be time sensitive at some point.

512
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Yes. Thank you. All right. So I think that's it. We're going to go ahead and take a break. It's 640 by defending. Oh my computer matches my phone this week 645 we will resume at 7 p.m. Thanks.

513
00:45:48,670 --> 00:46:03,310
Okay. Welcome everybody to our Tuesday May 7th city council meeting and healthier in city hall. We also have remote component by zoom. We are going to start off with the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance. If you please join me.

514
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:08,210
Your father. Thank you for bringing us together today.

515
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:23,450
to handle the city's business, the best of our abilities using our input from our citizens who are very wise in forming the direction where we take this city.

516
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:32,150
Please be with our first responders as always. There's so many things going on right now. We're just so thankful for all of them.

517
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:37,750
Please watch over this body tonight as we continue to discuss the business and

518
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:57,870
Then you'll come to consensus on anything that we are discussing tonight in the

519
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,640
Okay, we'll go ahead and call the meeting to order.

520
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,220
We will start off with a roll call.

521
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:06,820
Council member Kurtz, President.

522
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:09,900
Council member Ball, Mayor Proteem Cargill.

523
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,740
President.

524
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,980
Council member Spencer.

525
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:13,960
President.

526
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:15,340
Council member Dunn.

527
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:16,000
Happy to be here.

528
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,820
Council member Kennedy.

529
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,300
All right.

530
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,960
And Council member Van Orman has requested to be excused for some family things, so if we could

531
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,060
have a motion in a second to excuse Council member Van Orman, I'll make the motion

532
00:47:29,060 --> 00:47:34,020
to excuse. I'm going to. Right, we have a motion by Council Member Ball and the second

533
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:38,880
by Council Member Kennedy on favor of excusing Council Member Van Orman, please say aye.

534
00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:44,900
Aye. Any opposed? All right, motion passes. All right, we will go on to agenda approval.

535
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,660
Mayor for a 10. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as printed.

536
00:47:50,340 --> 00:47:56,480
Right, we have a second. Second. Second. Second by Council Member Kurds. All in favor, please say aye.

537
00:47:56,820 --> 00:47:58,440
Aye. Any opposed?

538
00:47:59,260 --> 00:48:28,500
All right. Motion passes the V60. All right. We are up to citizen comments. So for those of you in chambers, we have in yellow half sheets by the door and something fill one out if you'd like to make a comment. Any any topic, limit of three minutes and some of the next change will take your comment. And if we need to follow up, we will definitely do that. Make sure we have your contact information on here. And for anybody online, please send a note to our meeting host.

539
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:33,540
in the chat feature and when we're done here in person, we will go to anybody online who has

540
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:38,020
who has a comment. Again, the three minute limit and the clock will be posted on here. So we will

541
00:48:38,020 --> 00:48:41,000
start off with Thomas McLaughlin. Welcome back.

542
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:46,870
It's been a couple of years since I've been to the

543
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:54,050
last meeting here. A couple of years ago, I made a suggestion that we put on the stop lights at

544
00:48:54,050 --> 00:49:03,750
in time clock and the council actually took my suggestion. So I'm here to have some other suggestions to tonight.

545
00:49:05,370 --> 00:49:12,370
I have one first of all, I want to congratulate what Liberty Lake has done with the trailhead golf course.

546
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:19,210
And it's I drive by every day and it's the architect's design.

547
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:24,570
everybody did a great job on that, and I just want to express my opinion. I lived down

548
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:32,570
at Alpine shores. So I see that. I drive downtown Spokane and I see the graffiti now. You

549
00:49:32,570 --> 00:49:41,610
see the gray on the freeway walls. You seek graffiti all over the town. My concern is also on Spragan

550
00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:45,330
and Spray in Liberty Lake Road,

551
00:49:46,070 --> 00:49:49,410
there's a camera there with both solar cameras.

552
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:51,290
And you have one up to the billion.

553
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:55,030
My suggestion is that we might want to consider putting

554
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:59,170
some solar cameras on these new bridges.

555
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:03,250
I'd hate to see, after you spend three, four, five million dollars,

556
00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:04,990
even on that bike bridge.

557
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:09,970
I'd hate to see people getting away with the crime.

558
00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:15,110
And if you can, and somebody's watching, obviously, there's somebody watching them's cameras.

559
00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:20,010
That's one suggestion I'd like to present is to consider that.

560
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:24,670
And also, down at the intersection of the ridge line, there's, you have the street light,

561
00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:28,590
but then there's another exit inference to the ridge line high school.

562
00:50:28,850 --> 00:50:33,830
That might be another good spot because it looks like an accident waiting to happen right there.

563
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:36,030
So that's something to think about.

564
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,880
Yeah, I would think with the solar cameras, you probably have to have about four on each bridge.

565
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,540
And somebody could figure it out, but at least catch it.

566
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,760
And if you catch somebody, I believe in law and order.

567
00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:57,640
A lot of times there's no bell, no jail.

568
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,620
What's happening now, but I'd say if somebody gets caught,

569
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:05,860
make them do the community service, make them clean up the graffiti.

570
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,500
That's my ideal.

571
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,940
And that includes Spokane, too.

572
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:16,120
And the schools, one other point is the street lights down by

573
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,420
Ridgeline High School.

574
00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:20,420
During the winter time, those kids are after school.

575
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:23,340
They're coming out at 4 o'clock.

576
00:51:23,860 --> 00:51:24,820
It's dark.

577
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,720
I might want to put some street lights down Ridgeline.

578
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,180
Obviously, that area is going to be developed.

579
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,440
Put the grass in, put some trees all the way to the

580
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,660
down there by the tennis courts.

581
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:41,420
So that's my suggestion and it all cost money.

582
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,600
Thanks for coming.

583
00:51:42,740 --> 00:51:43,380
Would you do me a favor?

584
00:51:43,580 --> 00:51:44,860
I'm sure I have your business card somewhere.

585
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,620
Can you put your number or you're on your for me?

586
00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:49,180
I'd love to follow up with you.

587
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,660
I want a couple of things.

588
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:52,340
Appreciate it.

589
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,520
You can just give me to Kelsey.

590
00:51:53,780 --> 00:51:54,120
I'm in there.

591
00:51:54,980 --> 00:51:55,380
Yep.

592
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,880
Appreciate it.

593
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:58,280
All right.

594
00:51:58,340 --> 00:52:02,080
Do we have anybody else in chambers who would like to make a citizen comment?

595
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:03,960
Not hearing anything.

596
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,020
Is there anybody online?

597
00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:08,840
There is okay.

598
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:12,160
So council member, former council member Tom Solberg.

599
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:14,100
Like he has his hand up.

600
00:52:14,340 --> 00:52:14,980
So welcome.

601
00:52:15,860 --> 00:52:17,540
I'm not sure can you see me in here.

602
00:52:17,860 --> 00:52:19,720
Make I can hear you.

603
00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:22,160
Thanks very much.

604
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,760
Tom Solberg would be late.

605
00:52:24,940 --> 00:52:25,580
Remember district.

606
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,280
I thought it was an excellent discussion tonight.

607
00:52:29,460 --> 00:52:34,940
Thank you all for your thoughtful questions with regard to the solid waste contract.

608
00:52:35,780 --> 00:52:56,660
I had some personal experience with waste management, and I would keep this brief where I tried to contact them locally to ask what had happened to the recycling fees that Council Member Cargill had had noticed that had been raised and I could not get a hold of anybody locally anymore whereas before I used to be able to.

609
00:52:56,660 --> 00:53:00,480
So I ended up going to the 1-800 number

610
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,340
and had several contacts with them and found out

611
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:06,800
that the reason for the pricing freeze that was given to me,

612
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,340
I'm not sure that that's what they told staff here,

613
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:12,240
was that a waste management lost their contract

614
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:13,000
for the recycling.

615
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,740
And so as a result of that,

616
00:53:16,740 --> 00:53:20,100
they charged all of us an additional almost 35%.

617
00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:23,760
Long story short, what I decided to do

618
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,780
after going around and around with him,

619
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,500
was went to one of our local hardware stores

620
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:36,520
and spent about one month's rate to have my own containers.

621
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,120
And I've been doing my own recycling.

622
00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:46,340
I go to Sunshine, Disposal, and I've done the whole thing.

623
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,700
I just want to mention a couple of things

624
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:53,060
for those of us that are on a fixed income.

625
00:53:53,060 --> 00:53:59,920
it is approximately for me and I had the least amount that you can possibly have of garbage and then

626
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:05,580
supposedly recycling, but you know that didn't include a glass and it was costing me this next year

627
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:12,520
about $45 a month, which is significant. It was a significant increase for me as I'm trying to

628
00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:18,400
keep my prices down and maybe that's the same for other seniors or those who are at least retired on

629
00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:26,120
Council Member Kurtz suggested that perhaps a town hall to discuss this would be in order.

630
00:54:26,540 --> 00:54:28,940
I certainly would hope that something like that would happen.

631
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:35,060
Council Member Kennedy asked the question that I'm asking is why wouldn't we put this out to competitive bit?

632
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,000
I think it has to be put out.

633
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:46,580
I know waste management does a good job and I heard Council Member Dunn, I think you've had contact with them in the past.

634
00:54:46,580 --> 00:55:01,080
I just think that we need to have more of a discussion as to how this is better serving our community and some of Linda's concerns were also about the drivers and litter.

635
00:55:02,020 --> 00:55:13,800
So if there would be an opportunity to continue the discussion and perhaps have more citizens in the input and certainly a competitive bid so that you can see the exact prices and maybe there'd be some better service.

636
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,720
I think it might be worthwhile.

637
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,420
Thank you all for your time.

638
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,520
Thanks for your comment.

639
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:26,460
I'll see if might be Mark and follow up with you on the increases you mentioned.

640
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:27,320
Okay.

641
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,120
No more about that.

642
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,500
Thank you.

643
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:29,900
Okay.

644
00:55:30,020 --> 00:55:31,280
Is there anybody else online?

645
00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:32,080
No.

646
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:32,580
Okay.

647
00:55:32,820 --> 00:55:35,540
So I guess that does it for citizen comments at this time.

648
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:37,900
There will be a chance later on in the meeting.

649
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:40,300
So we'll move on to our announcements,

650
00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:46,060
proclamations and special presentations we'll start off with the proclamation for wildfire awareness month

651
00:55:46,060 --> 00:55:51,900
and we do have several members of the fire department here for that resolution so we will

652
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:57,800
it'll be red and we'll take a vote from the council and then we'll sign it and then I'll

653
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,340
we'll take a chance to I know you guys I know you guys I know you guys hey I know you

654
00:56:03,340 --> 00:56:06,260
We came in visit. Yeah, you too.

655
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,660
So we'll do a photo with the Proclamation with you guys.

656
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,460
Kelsey, you're up.

657
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,760
We're as wildfire seasons have become longer and more destructive,

658
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:16,900
which threatens communities throughout Washington.

659
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:21,100
And we're as individuals and communities work together to build solutions

660
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:22,480
to coexist with wildfire.

661
00:56:23,260 --> 00:56:26,280
And we're as communities across Washington are creating pathways

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to adapt to prepare and recover from wildfire.

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And we're as individuals are encouraged to help reduce the risk of

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00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:40,520
wildfire while recreating outdoors and whereas when we come together as neighbors we can reduce

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00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,840
the risk while fire poses to our properties homes and communities and whereas we all share

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00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,940
the responsibility of preventing wildland with fires while building community resilience.

667
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All right so at this time I would entertain a motion from the council to approve this

668
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We have a motion moved to support approved.

669
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,280
Thank you to the second. Second.

670
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,000
Okay, we have a motion by Councilmember Dunn.

671
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,180
The second by Councilmember Ball, all those in favor of supporting our wild fire

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Proclamation.

673
00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:12,480
Please say aye.

674
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,060
Any opposed?

675
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,760
Hey, motion passes 60.

676
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:23,140
Therefore, be it resolved that May 2024 be designated as wildfire awareness month throughout

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00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:28,180
the city and I urge all the people of Liberty Lake to join in the special observance day to the

678
00:57:28,180 --> 00:57:30,140
seventh day of May 2024.

679
00:59:42,610 --> 00:59:47,910
All right, thanks everybody for that. We will go on now. We have a presentation from

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00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:59,970
Thank you, Mayor Comuscus. Members of the Council. I am a proud resident of Liberty Lake, Susan.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:17,900
Higher CEO at Spokane Transit. We're here to give you an update tonight, and I'm sorry, and Administrator McFoy. We're here to give you an update tonight on a number of things, including the finishing of our 10 years strategic plan called ST moving forward.

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01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:23,500
and the creation of the next 10-year plan called Connect 2035.

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,900
Carl Augusterum is with me. Carl is the Chief Planning and Development Officer at Spokane

684
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:37,200
Transit, and we have been to see you together probably 10 years or so, maybe 15.

685
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,600
I wanted to recognize Council Member Dunn, who is the representative of the small cities,

686
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:51,140
the five small cities. So Liberty Lake is in possession of the voting seat on the STA board.

687
01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:58,060
This is the second year and we are very grateful for his leadership and participation,

688
01:00:58,780 --> 01:01:07,160
even calling into a meeting that went until 1230 his time on vacation. That was dedication. Thank

689
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:13,080
you to my Kennedy Council member Kennedy, who formerly served on the STA board and council member

690
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,220
of Ann Orman who served as the chair of the STA board.

691
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:23,280
So our relationship with the Liberty Lake City Council is long and rich and we are greatly appreciative

692
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,620
of your support.

693
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:31,200
Carl's going to tell you that we are Liberty Lake's transit agency and we think of it that way.

694
01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:36,360
Especially since I live here, I'm not saying Liberty Lake is extra service or attention

695
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,020
because I live here but I'm not saying that you don't.

696
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:44,340
So I'm going to introduce Carl Otterstrom and please ask questions and

697
01:01:44,340 --> 01:01:49,220
uh, he can probably answer all of them, but I will also be available to answer them.

698
01:01:49,660 --> 01:01:51,900
We remind us how much time we have.

699
01:01:52,540 --> 01:01:55,700
Because we would take a long long time if we were.

700
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,200
Right.

701
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,460
Without fans.

702
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,220
Shoot for 15.

703
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,980
Shoot for 15.

704
01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:01,480
Yes.

705
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:04,180
Okay. Now you have 10 because I have used five.

706
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:05,940
Thank you Carl Otterstrom.

707
01:02:05,940 --> 01:02:08,080
The gauntlet's been thrown down Carl.

708
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,220
Thank you Susan.

709
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,000
Thank you Mayor.

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01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:10,420
Commencement.

711
01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:12,620
The members of the city council.

712
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,580
If we go to the next slide.

713
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,640
The Susan said we're spoken.

714
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,100
I'm spoken in transit as liberty likes transit system.

715
01:02:20,180 --> 01:02:22,380
We actually have four routes in the city.

716
01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:26,740
And that's an increase as we have added service across the county.

717
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:30,040
So route 74 is the way I got here tonight.

718
01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:34,800
That is runs on the freeway and then also runs on the north side of your

719
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:41,820
Fair City Route 98's likely my trip home tonight from seven days a week into the night and then we have two

720
01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:52,200
Express routes one 172 which is oriented around commuters heading to Spokane in the 724 which is oriented to two commuters heading to jobs in the city of Liberty Lake.

721
01:02:52,440 --> 01:03:04,700
We're planning to upgrade Route 74 to run nights a weekend next year and to eventually become the rough 7 which will be a one shot route through Spokane Valley at the Valley Mall area

722
01:03:04,700 --> 01:03:09,800
on the freeway downtown Spokane, then out to the airports, all on the single routes.

723
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,520
So Route 7 is in our sites to add next year.

724
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,080
So lots of exciting things.

725
01:03:16,180 --> 01:03:20,100
I want to tell you about our RST and moving forward plan, next slide.

726
01:03:20,740 --> 01:03:24,060
Susan mentioned we're in the throws of finishing this plan.

727
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:30,300
27 different projects across the county that provide more better transit service.

728
01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:33,660
Many of these, if it had liners like the city line,

729
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:37,000
which now serves over 24 or 2500 riders a day.

730
01:03:37,580 --> 01:03:44,180
Another things are smaller, puts and takes everywhere around the system, including later Saturday night service.

731
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,140
And at this point, we've completed 17 of the projects.

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01:03:48,740 --> 01:03:52,940
We have two that are recognized as completed partly,

733
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,480
and then six underway, and then there's two more yet to be completed.

734
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,700
One of those last two projects is a pilot project in partnership with

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01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:06,600
to the county to extend service to Coralaine and Post Falls.

736
01:04:06,740 --> 01:04:08,720
And so that's subject to a partnership there.

737
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:09,920
Next slide.

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01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,020
We are actually proposing to amend that ST moving forward plan

739
01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:16,280
in those 27 projects.

740
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,440
And we've amended it before.

741
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,240
The plan was originally adopted in December of 2014.

742
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,460
And was the basis of an original 2015 April 2015

743
01:04:26,460 --> 01:04:29,300
ballot measure that failed by 272 votes.

744
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:34,280
the STA board work through updating financial forecasts,

745
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,760
really aligning the plan in terms of the sequencing of projects,

746
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,200
and ultimately presented a new ballot measure that was approved by voters

747
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,340
in all the cities across the county within our service area,

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01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,100
approved it with the majority in favor.

749
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,240
And in this case, so as amended back then in 2016,

750
01:04:54,240 --> 01:05:09,040
We also amended it in 2020 with COVID and it's impacts on the delay of projects and what we're proposing to do is in this amendment is recognize work completed and also based on work.

751
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:20,780
We had a consulted look at our network and assess our success, our things we needed to improve and also that included things that we plan to do.

752
01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:25,500
So two of those adjustments in this proposed amendment actually a fact library lake next slide.

753
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,060
So the first one relates to library lake to Spokane Peak Hour Service.

754
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,900
So the Route 172 is a nonstop route between Spokane and Liberty Lake.

755
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,180
So that was re-instituted.

756
01:05:39,340 --> 01:05:42,960
There used to be an express service set was discontinued in 2011.

757
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,960
This 172 was a new service added in 2017.

758
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:53,760
In our plans, we had recognized it as a first phase of that express service.

759
01:05:54,040 --> 01:06:00,160
We added a back, but we had plans to increase the frequency to every 15 minutes in the future.

760
01:06:00,820 --> 01:06:04,780
Where we are now, commute trips downtown have changed dramatically.

761
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:10,480
There are not as many office workers coming down town 75 days a week into the office.

762
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,800
And so that market has changed for us.

763
01:06:15,140 --> 01:06:17,940
And a result our consultant has recommended

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01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:21,120
that we consider what we've already achieved

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,460
as the completion of that point.

766
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,380
That is, it does meet the need.

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01:06:26,740 --> 01:06:31,160
We did do the express service to Spokane from Liberty League.

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01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:34,240
It doesn't get off the freeway of Mirror Brewing anywhere else.

769
01:06:34,420 --> 01:06:36,680
And so we have achieved that next slide.

770
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,540
And it says exactly what I said here.

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01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:48,660
Again, with that bold text at the bottom, recognize what we've already accomplished as satisfying that objective in the planning.

772
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:54,380
The next project, next slide, please, is the Liberty Lake Park and Rye.

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,780
So originally it was called the Liber Lake Park and Rye relocation.

774
01:06:58,580 --> 01:07:07,560
And that first part of the top of the page in 2016, it was described as relocated in expand the Liber Lake Park and Rye providing over 300 parking stalls for commuters.

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:17,440
We had developed some renderings and just very early concepts that depicted it and being a very large park and ride.

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:28,180
And in this case, we actually assumed we would pursue a partnership with the Department of Natural Resources and their property to stop the mission avenue on the north side of the freeway and next slide.

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01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:36,140
DNR was an interested in that, they had other plans for that, and we also, over time, concluded

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01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:39,940
that it was a best interest to retain the existing liberty-like park and riding rather than

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01:07:39,940 --> 01:07:48,140
having complete replacement. And so, in 2020, as part of that amendment during COVID, we redefined

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01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:53,740
that project slightly to expand commuter parking capacity, east of Sullivan Road. So, so we're

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01:07:53,740 --> 01:07:55,760
the barker to stay in line roughly.

782
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,320
As part of our overall investment in the 1990 valley,

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01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:02,400
this corridor, which ultimately is a vision

784
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:07,380
to extract from Portland, mainly liberty-like to the airport.

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,160
And in this case, we, in 2022,

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,600
we actually worked to develop and something

787
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,440
we collaborated and coordinated.

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01:08:17,740 --> 01:08:19,480
And I believe the last time I came in to present,

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01:08:19,480 --> 01:08:25,400
I did brief on this, a future out-of-way station parking ride.

790
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,480
So a parking ride inside the city of Libri Lake that's on the south side,

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01:08:31,580 --> 01:08:32,760
basically near the high school.

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01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:38,080
The next slide depicts the site locations of very specific here.

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01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:41,560
We actually began conversations with the property owner,

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:47,820
because ultimately we're going to make sure we follow federal processes and it's going to take a while to

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01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:55,540
I acquire the site, but this particular location, just for context, the new high school is just

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01:08:55,540 --> 01:09:02,020
to the southeast. You have the interchange accessing the freeway heading to in front of

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01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:10,220
the lane and Idaho. There's also the county on high capacity to transit right away is on the

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01:09:10,220 --> 01:09:15,800
south side of country vista, or our upper way at that point, and then continues and parallels

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01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:22,360
on 92 to the north of country vista, and so we believe this is a strategic location. However, back

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01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:28,200
to my earlier premise on park and ride demand has not come back the same way at this point,

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01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:33,500
was still growing gradually relative to the rest of our system. Our ridership overall is up

802
01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:39,380
over 33% this year. Last year, over 2022, and we're over last year's ridership

803
01:09:39,380 --> 01:09:45,780
here going into the first few months, and we expect that trend to continue. But again, that this

804
01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:52,620
particular slice those who are parking to take transit generally because they're not going to the office as much.

805
01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:58,160
They're often finding it more convenient to drive and not creating that transit habit just yet.

806
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:05,240
And so what we're proposing to quote a next slide is to reconfigure this particular project.

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01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:12,140
So this considerations really, this is a strategic location in our, in our view from a transportation standpoint.

808
01:10:12,140 --> 01:10:26,640
And as well, suited to support the growth of Liberty Lake in the south west quadrant of the city, as well as to provide long-term provide connectivity across the region.

809
01:10:27,380 --> 01:10:33,020
But, as we think about something to deliver in the next few years, that demand is not there yet.

810
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:37,140
But from a strategic standpoint, we believe it's still in our best interest.

811
01:10:37,140 --> 01:10:41,940
communities best answers to acquire a site for future chance of facility and so

812
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:47,780
we're recommending to our board is to amend the S.C. moving forward plan to this particular

813
01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:52,800
project to read a choir property for future Apple East station parking right so be

814
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:58,900
focused on the acquisition, the preservation of that that opportunity rather than delivering a

815
01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:04,180
project that frankly this point would probably be less utilized than we would prefer.

816
01:11:04,180 --> 01:11:08,700
So those are the two amendments that we're pursuing with our board.

817
01:11:09,580 --> 01:11:12,900
And I have just a couple more minutes.

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Any questions or concerns about this?

819
01:11:16,340 --> 01:11:18,920
We have a public hearing with our board this week.

820
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,740
This this month at their regular board meeting.

821
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:28,040
And then we'll be seeking through the Planning Development Committee, which Council Member Don is on,

822
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:34,680
for them to pass out make a motion for approval of a resolution adopting these amendments.

823
01:11:35,260 --> 01:11:37,840
Okay, same many of any questions for Carl Luzon.

824
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,720
I have got a couple questions.

825
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:47,360
So if you acquired that property, would it replace the one that's just right around the corner here?

826
01:11:47,620 --> 01:11:55,260
No, so it didn't move away from the idea of replacement, especially given they're in very different parts of town.

827
01:11:55,260 --> 01:12:03,280
And this location nearby has the benefit of being a kind of end of line for the routes.

828
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,200
So at this point, we don't need a plan to dispose of this currently facility.

829
01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:11,860
Yeah, yeah, more central.

830
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:18,040
Another question I had you you had mentioned that riderships up 33% is that's across the system.

831
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:25,360
How does that pertain? Is it equally utilized out here or is it up or down for Liberty Lake?

832
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:28,900
I didn't bring any statistics that are specific to each city.

833
01:12:30,140 --> 01:12:32,540
So I'll get back to pass that along.

834
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:32,900
Sure.

835
01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:38,060
Well, we actually do have a report coming up that will be more important.

836
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:43,000
I can convey that information by bus stop and we can bring that up to the city level.

837
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,880
And then just my final question,

838
01:12:45,740 --> 01:12:47,100
ridership is up overall.

839
01:12:47,300 --> 01:12:53,120
How close are you to capacity on the bus that's going in and out?

840
01:12:53,260 --> 01:12:53,580
Yeah.

841
01:12:53,660 --> 01:12:54,140
Around town.

842
01:12:54,700 --> 01:12:58,340
You know, capacity buses only have 30 to 40 seats.

843
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,760
And so sometimes they're very full

844
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,620
and they come back the next trip it's empty for close to empty.

845
01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:07,960
And so there's always more capacity at different times

846
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,160
during the peak period.

847
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,640
We're back to seeing over loads

848
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,660
and having complaints about overloads on buses

849
01:13:13,660 --> 01:13:16,560
at particular times in particular parts of the system.

850
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,760
So I don't have a straight answer on that.

851
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,340
But we have more service than we had pre-pandemic.

852
01:13:23,660 --> 01:13:26,640
So there is more capacity to consume in general.

853
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:32,220
But a lot of what we've added is nights and weekends

854
01:13:32,860 --> 01:13:35,120
in terms of frequency and span of service.

855
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,580
And we're seeing ridership on Saturday's Sunday

856
01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:40,340
is actually above pre-pandemic levels

857
01:13:40,340 --> 01:13:46,460
and higher than we've ever had as a system, and so we're seeing that kind of broader utilization

858
01:13:46,460 --> 01:13:56,200
across routes and you know it's on the bus Saturday and it was very full but on the bus on

859
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:02,040
weekdays as well and can be standing. I've got Mayor Protem Cargill online.

860
01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:08,740
Carl getting

861
01:14:08,740 --> 01:14:15,420
is the free rides that had been offered. I know there was a, and perhaps it's still going on right now

862
01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:19,780
on the, on the central city line where there were some free rides being offered, especially to

863
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:24,980
to teenagers, I believe. So a couple different things going on there. So city line was free for about

864
01:14:24,980 --> 01:14:32,900
the first nine weeks, and then it's been paid routes since September, first week of September.

865
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:49,340
And but youth ages 18 and younger are zero fair. And so that is in partnership with the legislature, which is providing a transit support grant on the condition that we provide youth with ability for zero fair.

866
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:59,700
We ask them encourage them and promote using a fair card, but that fair card doesn't bring any more revenue testing directly, but we do the grant on the side.

867
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:13,020
I don't have the statistics. Our ridership on those for those youth has grown significantly, compared to pre, whether it's a pre pandemic or pre zero fair for youth.

868
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:29,880
I can't tell you that one of the largest markets of that change has been with district dating one, riders, and so with the district we partnered in basically providing pathway for their students to ride the bus in lieu of

869
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,740
syllabus service so they save money on reducing the cost of

870
01:15:33,740 --> 01:15:38,380
syllabus service and virtually all with a few exceptions of

871
01:15:38,380 --> 01:15:42,820
those high school students take STA or something else but

872
01:15:42,820 --> 01:15:45,040
they don't take the syllabus to school anymore. So there's

873
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,760
some of those dynamics but I don't have this you know in terms of

874
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:54,380
that the growth all are different categories of ridership are up but

875
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:58,860
the highest that the the greatest increase has been in terms of

876
01:15:58,860 --> 01:16:01,380
percentage increase has been in the zero fair for you.

877
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,620
Anybody else have any questions?

878
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:09,000
Council member Boll on that sitting line isn't it free on the weekends because of the

879
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,580
expo isn't that still happening?

880
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:17,100
Yeah, I'm sorry that was my third there was it is free right now and that was a board decision

881
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:22,720
made several weeks ago on all routes whether you're in Spokane or out in Liberty Lake

882
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,240
on Saturdays and Sundays through the end of June.

883
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:33,020
Okay. And then secondly, you mentioned an airport, when's that, can you, when is that going to happen?

884
01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:39,980
Yeah. So route, our plan route seven will, and if that is part of ST moving forward, although

885
01:16:41,460 --> 01:16:47,480
through the planning process, we expanded the definition to go to the airport, that is scheduled for September

886
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:55,040
2025. Same take, might the departures and arrivals on us? A nice. Okay. I'm looking forward to that.

887
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,920
I am tired of paying $65 for a new burplus tip.

888
01:16:59,820 --> 01:17:02,120
That's crazy, so thank you for that.

889
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,420
$140 one night after it's snowed one way.

890
01:17:07,260 --> 01:17:08,140
Councillor Wooddon.

891
01:17:08,740 --> 01:17:12,920
Carl, will mine me a total ridership on the system versus pre-pandling levels.

892
01:17:13,380 --> 01:17:14,480
Are we nearly the same?

893
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,940
Yes, some months were at the same or slightly above.

894
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,620
And right now, over the last few months,

895
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,400
about 95% of pre-pandemic levels.

896
01:17:24,220 --> 01:17:30,520
nationwide, our ridership increased last year was double that the nation's

897
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:35,960
transit systems on average. So we're we're we're above our peers in the

898
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,480
state even like the zero fair even though that's being offered in

899
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:42,480
process state. We've seen that some most one of the most dramatic

900
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:48,060
increases again with that partnership with this to 81 leading wing. I have a couple

901
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:53,060
one more slide or two more slide I'll just cut to just to this if we go to the

902
01:17:53,060 --> 01:18:21,380
Next slide I'll just promote connect 2035 and say that the board is working to develop the next 10 year vision and it is established on goals to elevate the customer experience to collaborate and partner with with you all with the region to improve the quality of life and to strengthen our capacity to serve into the future and be resilient to meet those demands of the region.

903
01:18:21,380 --> 01:18:22,920
So it's in process.

904
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,000
You can go to STAConnect2035.com or just go to SpokaneTransit.com

905
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,640
and find information on that planning exercise.

906
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,260
But it's, we'll be, we've done a number of outreach activities.

907
01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:37,300
We'll be doing more as that plan comes together

908
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:39,080
through the end of this year.

909
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:40,380
Happy to answer any other questions.

910
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,120
But thank you again for your time today.

911
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,440
I always appreciate having you here.

912
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,660
You learn a lot.

913
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,960
They may have any questions before Carl finishes up.

914
01:18:49,960 --> 01:19:04,420
Don't see any. Thanks again, you guys appreciate it. Thanks girl. Okay. Moving on, we are up to reports and inquiries. I will start with city council or any city council members who'd like to provide a report council member done.

915
01:19:04,420 --> 01:19:10,200
Hey, not much argument, but just to refer to STA's commitments to our expose 74 celebrations.

916
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:15,900
We've brought number 11, which circles the park is a 50 cent fair 50 years, which is a sense.

917
01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:20,400
And as Carl stated, all the system on Saturdays and Sundays are free.

918
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,220
So this is a great opportunity for everybody.

919
01:19:22,660 --> 01:19:27,420
No excuses to get downtown and participate in a lot of the downtown facilities are going to be.

920
01:19:27,420 --> 01:19:36,160
personally took in the Vulcan ceremonies event on Saturday, a great opportunity, and a lot of really, I'd say, fun events protect them all to be a part of.

921
01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:41,760
So it's fun, I encourage everybody to really take some time to consider some of these events that are coming up regarding the exposed celebrations.

922
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:43,480
Thank you so much.

923
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:45,100
Any other council reports?

924
01:19:46,860 --> 01:19:47,840
Not seeing any.

925
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,940
All right, I will jump into my mayor's report.

926
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:55,000
Okay, usual plethora of alphabet soup of board meetings.

927
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:56,880
I will skip most of that.

928
01:19:57,260 --> 01:20:00,480
We did have an opportunity to interview City Engineer,

929
01:20:00,940 --> 01:20:02,080
and we have made an offer.

930
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,460
And I believe the start date is June 3rd.

931
01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:04,980
June 3rd.

932
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:05,700
That's great.

933
01:20:05,860 --> 01:20:07,700
So we're very excited about that.

934
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,820
We also interviewed for,

935
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,300
so if you guys don't remember Wayne Hammond is retiring later this year.

936
01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:18,000
He's our chief building inspector and plans examiner.

937
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:23,540
So we actually were able to promote do another great promotion from within.

938
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,800
So Chris McCary, and I can't remember how long Chris has been with us.

939
01:20:28,900 --> 01:20:31,560
It's been a while, but it was great.

940
01:20:31,900 --> 01:20:32,420
You know, he interviewed.

941
01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:33,600
He did a stellar job.

942
01:20:33,900 --> 01:20:37,380
So he is going to be moving up into Wayne's position.

943
01:20:37,780 --> 01:20:42,660
And then we have already posted for another replacement.

944
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,640
So we still have three people in that department.

945
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:45,540
Councilmember Dunn.

946
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,540
Isn't Wayne the longest serving city employee?

947
01:20:47,540 --> 01:20:54,340
I believe so, yeah, at this point, yep, he's been out for some other things, but October this year's

948
01:20:54,340 --> 01:20:59,300
been his goal for a long time. So we've been planning the leading up to this. So we're going to

949
01:20:59,300 --> 01:21:04,640
wish him well, and I love hearing some of his stories over the years. You see, where are we now?

950
01:21:04,980 --> 01:21:11,620
Arbor, and we had Arbor Day last Friday, and we were able to play at our first evergreen for Arbor Day,

951
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,740
over by the baseball fields between the elementary schools. That went well. We had a second grade class

952
01:21:15,740 --> 01:21:20,600
there who helped very, very vigorously help with the shoveling.

953
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,340
So we avoided any accidents with the golden shovels, and they had a great time.

954
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:38,020
Sorry, I'm more, more board meetings, Thursday is the the official ribbon cutting for

955
01:21:38,020 --> 01:21:43,540
mode with the valley chamber. That's the, the co-working space over in the old HP

956
01:21:43,540 --> 01:21:45,100
So that's adding.

957
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,800
I think it's three o'clock on Thursday.

958
01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:51,680
Check the valley chamber website to just confirm that time.

959
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,260
I saw Lucas left.

960
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:54,760
So that is Thursday.

961
01:21:55,380 --> 01:21:59,400
We have the AWS small city connectors meeting in medical lake.

962
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:05,380
Coming up, we have the interview with the library RFQ responses on Friday.

963
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,780
So after we have that interview, we'll do the grading process.

964
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:11,500
And we'll report back to you guys on where we are.

965
01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:17,620
to what the next steps are on the library project management project.

966
01:22:22,050 --> 01:22:25,410
AWS bylaws committee continues to meet.

967
01:22:25,570 --> 01:22:29,250
I could mention at the last meeting where they're putting off the decisions until next.

968
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:34,430
Next year we had a couple of listening sessions scheduled we had one just earlier.

969
01:22:35,470 --> 01:22:39,370
Last week we had some good inputs from some other mayors and council members across

970
01:22:39,370 --> 01:22:41,870
Washington with regards to that process.

971
01:22:41,870 --> 01:22:48,310
we have a couple more coming up and Mark had mentioned that he is on the 2025 state legislative

972
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:53,870
priorities right WC. I'm on the federal priorities committee so I'll throw it out that we haven't

973
01:22:53,870 --> 01:22:57,610
had any meetings yet but I will throw it out there so as you guys are thinking about things for the

974
01:22:57,610 --> 01:23:11,850
states and legislative priorities think about federal as well. So as our meeting starts to get going I

975
01:23:11,850 --> 01:23:14,630
for the trailhead deck, and we need to, I don't know if we

976
01:23:14,630 --> 01:23:17,590
end up date them, Chris on that, but those are being worked on.

977
01:23:18,170 --> 01:23:20,910
Tate is working on new name tags for all the counts members,

978
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:23,230
especially with the farmers market coming up.

979
01:23:25,010 --> 01:23:29,370
And I wouldn't want to say, oh gosh, I almost forgot it.

980
01:23:29,470 --> 01:23:29,750
Now I didn't.

981
01:23:30,210 --> 01:23:37,110
So this is City Clark's Week, I'm getting the side eye.

982
01:23:37,290 --> 01:23:38,830
We're not going to, I'm not going to make you come up here,

983
01:23:38,930 --> 01:23:40,330
but we do have a card for you Kelsey.

984
01:23:40,330 --> 01:23:46,610
it doesn't can't express merely how much we value your contribution and all the work you've

985
01:23:46,610 --> 01:23:51,370
done since you've taken this office with the upgrades and things that you've been responsible for

986
01:23:51,930 --> 01:23:57,110
and I just can't name them all but we really really don't appreciate you and in honor of

987
01:23:57,110 --> 01:24:02,310
City Clark's week we'll get this to you for the meeting. All

988
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:09,370
right. Oh and I said any mail to everybody

989
01:24:09,370 --> 01:24:14,210
there are openings on some A to B C boards and some state boards and commissions so that should

990
01:24:14,210 --> 01:24:18,670
your email. That is it for me. And so we'll move on to Mark's report.

991
01:24:19,690 --> 01:24:22,990
All right. Thank you, Mayor. As we look down some of these events,

992
01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:28,410
as spring has sprung, there's a lot more to talk about here and there will continue to be

993
01:24:28,410 --> 01:24:34,590
throughout the summer. We've got three upcoming sessions of the City Academy. This Thursday

994
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:39,830
May 9th, we will be visiting the Liberty Lake sewer and water district and taking a tour of

995
01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:45,750
water treatment facility. Following Thursday, May 16th will be gathering up at Fire Station

996
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:51,870
number three, and hearing from Chief Soto and his team, and then on May 23rd will be meeting

997
01:24:51,870 --> 01:24:56,690
out at the new Public Works Yard and be taking a tour of all of the Public Works in Parks

998
01:24:56,690 --> 01:25:03,150
facilities and talking about those. And so if you're interested in coming out and hearing about

999
01:25:03,150 --> 01:25:11,410
of those topics feel free to join us on any of those nights for those sessions. We start at 6 p.m.

1000
01:25:11,610 --> 01:25:16,810
We will be getting more information out on our social media pages in the website.

1001
01:25:19,210 --> 01:25:24,190
Next item, bike safety inventory. This is an interesting item that's being headed up by one of the

1002
01:25:24,190 --> 01:25:30,010
members of our Parks and Arts Commission. And essentially what this is is an opportunity if you

1003
01:25:30,010 --> 01:25:36,850
enjoy biking and want to contribute to a potential grant award opportunity for some bike

1004
01:25:36,850 --> 01:25:44,010
safety improvements. There's an opportunity on May 11th to do that. I believe it is a 10 a.m.

1005
01:25:44,110 --> 01:25:50,970
I don't have my email is not cooperating with me. Starting at Town Square Park,

1006
01:25:51,090 --> 01:25:57,850
the idea is to form up there and just kind of take a bike tour in different directions and note

1007
01:25:58,510 --> 01:26:15,110
things that you see with respect to safety concerns or anything like that that would be important to record on this audit that would be used then to put into grants for safety improvements to our bike infrastructure.

1008
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:25,470
So again, this is being led up by one of our parks and arts commission members and there is information about it on our Facebook page and eventually will be able to send it out to you.

1009
01:26:25,470 --> 01:26:27,090
I just can't access it right now.

1010
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:27,890
So look forward to that.

1011
01:26:28,010 --> 01:26:29,910
The Mayor mentioned the A.W.C.

1012
01:26:29,950 --> 01:26:32,270
boards and advisory commission or committees,

1013
01:26:32,850 --> 01:26:35,510
the deadline, if you would like to apply for any of those.

1014
01:26:35,530 --> 01:26:37,850
And there are a couple of handfuls of different boards

1015
01:26:37,850 --> 01:26:40,810
and advisory committee opportunities is May 13.

1016
01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:43,830
So if you have an idea about wanting to do that,

1017
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:45,010
you've got about a week left.

1018
01:26:46,210 --> 01:26:51,110
We are now about a week and a half away from the start of the 2024

1019
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:59,510
for farmers market, out at towns where park and we've started a shared use calendar so that

1020
01:26:59,510 --> 01:27:04,950
if you want to sign up for a slot, you can do that and see which ones are open. If you haven't

1021
01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:09,530
already received instructions on how to do that, we will make sure that you get those this

1022
01:27:09,530 --> 01:27:14,850
week and if you need help walking through how to access that and record information on it,

1023
01:27:14,930 --> 01:27:20,850
we'll help you with that too, just let us know. But that's coming up. Memorial Day events, we have

1024
01:27:20,850 --> 01:27:27,050
several coming up between May 24th and 27th, most of those are taking place at Pavilion Park and

1025
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:34,750
there's information on both the website and our Facebook page detailing the times places and events

1026
01:27:34,750 --> 01:27:41,850
coming up for Memorial Day. A little bit farther out. This is another item that has come from

1027
01:27:41,850 --> 01:27:48,150
our Parks and Arts Commission. As you recall, they re-did the court out at Pavilion Park with a very

1028
01:27:48,150 --> 01:28:09,750
Nice. You're also did the skate park spruce that up with some paint and graphics. They were going to dedicate both of those on June 8 at Pavilion Park. I believe that is an 11 am start. But again, we'll get you specific specific information to get that on your calendars. There's more time to prepare for that one.

1029
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:21,710
And then now that we have the City Council retreat on the calendar for June 26, we will be determining a location and a final agenda that we will get out to you here in the next week or so.

1030
01:28:22,030 --> 01:28:25,750
Are there any questions about any of those reminders before we move on?

1031
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:36,550
All right, seeing none. I'm going to invite Kyle up to the podium to deliver the quarter one financial report.

1032
01:28:49,130 --> 01:28:50,510
All right, thanks Mark.

1033
01:28:51,770 --> 01:28:53,150
Good evening Mayor and Council.

1034
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:55,450
Before we get started,

1035
01:28:56,270 --> 01:28:58,930
I'd like to briefly direct everybody's attention

1036
01:28:58,930 --> 01:29:00,870
to the back of the room.

1037
01:29:01,050 --> 01:29:03,150
We have a new person man in the sticks

1038
01:29:03,150 --> 01:29:04,450
in the back.

1039
01:29:04,850 --> 01:29:07,390
Evan O'Malley is their new representative from Executive Tech.

1040
01:29:08,590 --> 01:29:11,170
And so he'll be our point of contact going forward

1041
01:29:11,170 --> 01:29:12,470
for all things.

1042
01:29:13,170 --> 01:29:15,490
So what's that?

1043
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:16,550
Well,

1044
01:29:17,370 --> 01:29:38,130
It started on the first quarter financials, so I'm happy to report that both revenues and expenditures are behaving themselves here to date so far, so we'll run through some of the major funds, both on the revenue and expenditure side and then we'll dive a little bit deeper into our golf operations fund here towards the end.

1045
01:29:38,130 --> 01:29:41,110
So with that, let's get to the next slide, please, Evan.

1046
01:29:43,140 --> 01:29:46,860
So General Fund, so Major Revenue Streams, we all know about property tax.

1047
01:29:47,340 --> 01:29:54,020
We have collected all of $8,700 so far, year-to-date for the first quarter in property tax.

1048
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:59,520
But I think as we all know by now, we collect the vast majority of that, both in the second.

1049
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,000
Fourth quarter. So, nothing to be alarmed with on that one.

1050
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:11,620
Sales and use tax, budgeted $5.9 million. So in the first quarter, we have collected $1.56 million.

1051
01:30:11,740 --> 01:30:16,820
That's about a 10% increase year over year in the first quarter of 2023.

1052
01:30:17,780 --> 01:30:26,150
And we're right on pace with what we budgeted for those as well. We saw a little bit of regression in March, year over year.

1053
01:30:26,810 --> 01:30:34,310
I think our total March 2023 sales tax disbursement was about, oh, 20, some odd thousand

1054
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:42,150
higher than this year. We also had an additional 100,000 this year in February from the

1055
01:30:42,150 --> 01:30:47,210
previous year. So we'll see these little bliffs here and there. I think you can kind of attribute

1056
01:30:47,210 --> 01:30:56,190
that to a cheerful December and a little bit of a hangover in January, perhaps, but no,

1057
01:30:56,410 --> 01:31:01,770
all everything is progressing as we have planned for sales and news tax, and obviously we see

1058
01:31:01,770 --> 01:31:05,770
those planning on increasing as we enter construction season as well, like they do every year.

1059
01:31:07,150 --> 01:31:12,650
So, permits and planning. This is a cost recovery piece that is reflective of the activity generated

1060
01:31:12,650 --> 01:31:20,450
by that department, 16% of the annual budget, nothing, nothing major on that front, but tracking

1061
01:31:20,450 --> 01:31:21,630
as we have planned.

1062
01:31:22,290 --> 01:31:23,090
Next slide, please.

1063
01:31:25,010 --> 01:31:30,570
So on the expenditure side, we're right where we need to be, we see a big chunk of expense

1064
01:31:30,570 --> 01:31:32,050
come out in January every year.

1065
01:31:32,150 --> 01:31:37,890
We have the cities insurance that comes out in January, and we have a big down payment of

1066
01:31:37,890 --> 01:31:42,850
you benefit that is a one time annual cost that comes out in January as well.

1067
01:31:43,110 --> 01:31:44,870
Those total little over $600,000.

1068
01:31:45,250 --> 01:31:48,450
So you can see that's a big chunk of what we have spent in the first quarter.

1069
01:31:48,610 --> 01:31:52,550
So we're tracking on the expenditure site right where we need to be.

1070
01:31:52,570 --> 01:31:54,970
I'll try to rise down to the middle of that.

1071
01:31:55,410 --> 01:32:02,790
So general fund beginning balance in so for 2024 in January was 8.69 million.

1072
01:32:02,790 --> 01:32:10,470
I have on here it's January 2nd, not January 1st, that is a big distinction, because we

1073
01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:15,030
receded a fifth and left reimbursement for $3.3 million on January 2nd that we had

1074
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:22,310
hoped to get in 2023 and did not. So with that, for our purposes for tracking for evaluation,

1075
01:32:22,830 --> 01:32:32,490
we are receding that essentially for reporting purposes in 2023 to show how we progress in 2024.

1076
01:32:32,490 --> 01:32:39,250
So with that said, the ending balance for the first quarter, 7.78 million, this is a

1077
01:32:39,950 --> 01:32:45,730
we track this every year with almost no income from property tax. We're going to get a big

1078
01:32:45,730 --> 01:32:49,780
disbursement and that'll all level out. So these are all behaving exactly how we want them to.

1079
01:32:50,450 --> 01:32:57,920
You can see our five year ending balance for the first quarter history there. And so

1080
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:03,920
You know, we're well above, you know, where we've been in the past and so general funds in a great spot right now.

1081
01:33:05,020 --> 01:33:06,000
Next slide please.

1082
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:08,200
So street operations.

1083
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:18,500
I think as we all know, we have some transition that is happening now with our major revenue source for the streets fund.

1084
01:33:18,860 --> 01:33:20,780
So we are still collecting utility tax.

1085
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:25,940
We've collected 289,000 in the first quarter.

1086
01:33:26,140 --> 01:33:30,060
We collected 282,000 in the first quarter of 2023,

1087
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,620
so right, and again, where we need to be.

1088
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,220
As we all know, the Transportation Benefit District sales tax

1089
01:33:36,220 --> 01:33:37,860
began on April 1st.

1090
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,000
We'll see that first of this disbursement in June.

1091
01:33:40,540 --> 01:33:44,080
And so this is kind of our shoulder season

1092
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,360
as we come out of winter season,

1093
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:53,920
And not a ton of expenses, we can see that we've inflated that ending balance a little bit

1094
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,020
from the beginning of January.

1095
01:33:55,820 --> 01:34:00,860
So looking good as well on that, looking ahead, as we talked about, we're going to decrease

1096
01:34:00,860 --> 01:34:08,720
that utility tax to 1% in June to coincide with our disbursements with the TBD sales tax.

1097
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,420
We also have a heavy equipment that's up for least renewal.

1098
01:34:11,420 --> 01:34:18,820
we had to budget for the entire amount, I would anticipate roughly $65,000, not, I think it was

1099
01:34:18,820 --> 01:34:24,620
on the order of roughly $444,000 that we had to budget for, because there's a payoff provision

1100
01:34:24,620 --> 01:34:28,220
after three years with our lease agreement. So we have to account for that, even though we know

1101
01:34:28,220 --> 01:34:34,040
we're not going to do it, that said that will live as an ending balance as at the end of the year

1102
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:40,980
when we do not exercise that option. And then again, with every year that we have a healthy

1103
01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:50,740
streets fund balance. We transferred $200,000 to the streets capital for bigger projects and bigger equipment. And so we plan on that in the fourth order as well. So next slide.

1104
01:34:52,060 --> 01:35:02,780
So our retax is we have read one and read two identical collection methods. We've receded 145,000 about in each of those. And so as

1105
01:35:04,300 --> 01:35:20,880
The housing sales will pick up in spring and summer we're going to see those increases in that collection as well. So again, we began the year with 4.3 million we've bumped that up a little bit because we haven't had any major expenses yet.

1106
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,720
We will have Apple way of mission,

1107
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,220
spray it over late costs later in the year.

1108
01:35:27,340 --> 01:35:30,060
We've accounted for as well as the Orchard Park store to film.

1109
01:35:31,060 --> 01:35:32,600
And as you can see our five-year history,

1110
01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:37,140
we're in a better spot now than we have been in,

1111
01:35:37,140 --> 01:35:40,220
you know, any time in history and a refund.

1112
01:35:40,460 --> 01:35:44,800
And so that continues to perform as we hope.

1113
01:35:45,460 --> 01:35:45,960
So, next slide.

1114
01:35:48,490 --> 01:35:50,490
So, golf operations. So,

1115
01:35:50,490 --> 01:35:54,310
And the first quarter is really prepping for the season, so we don't have a ton of activity.

1116
01:35:54,570 --> 01:36:02,550
We have, on a normally year, we have driving range revenue, kind of trickle in some rounds here and there,

1117
01:36:02,590 --> 01:36:07,270
but that will start obviously to ramp up in the second and third quarter.

1118
01:36:08,030 --> 01:36:12,490
And so with that, so first quarter sales, we got 125,000.

1119
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:17,910
Quite a bit above where we were at at this point last year.

1120
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:22,830
We'll get into a little bit of the Y here in the next couple of slides.

1121
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:29,630
But as you can see, so we purchased the power carts in the first quarter as well.

1122
01:36:29,630 --> 01:36:31,730
That was 165,000.

1123
01:36:32,350 --> 01:36:36,330
And those are going to pay for themselves many, many, many, many times over.

1124
01:36:36,930 --> 01:36:40,730
So we look forward to a spike in revenue from them as well.

1125
01:36:41,670 --> 01:36:44,210
So with that, we had some of those major purchases.

1126
01:36:44,210 --> 01:36:52,390
started the year with 500,000. We end March with two little over 200,000 again with the

1127
01:36:52,390 --> 01:37:00,350
understanding that revenue is going to pick up as we get into the nicer months. And again,

1128
01:37:00,430 --> 01:37:05,330
obviously we'll get into this a little bit on the next couple of slides, but looking ahead, we have

1129
01:37:05,330 --> 01:37:09,250
the rest of our employees, we have the simulators that are coming online. So we have these additional revenue

1130
01:37:09,250 --> 01:37:15,810
sources that should give us an extra boost going forward.

1131
01:37:16,370 --> 01:37:19,690
So with that, the next slide is the one that you guys see every month.

1132
01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:26,210
And so this is this is our visual that essentially tells us and the

1133
01:37:26,210 --> 01:37:30,410
citizens that are revenues and expenditures are generally behaving themselves

1134
01:37:30,410 --> 01:37:32,830
in the first quarter of 2024.

1135
01:37:33,450 --> 01:37:37,270
So nothing of note or alarm to report.

1136
01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:43,650
So with that, we'll dive a little bit further into some of the golf operations data.

1137
01:37:43,930 --> 01:37:47,370
So we talked about this a couple of years ago and there was some brief discussion earlier

1138
01:37:47,370 --> 01:37:56,570
this year about how we track golf revenue, how was that applied, how we track golf expenditures,

1139
01:37:56,770 --> 01:38:04,350
how was that applied. And so with that, Evan, we'll go to the next slide. And so this is hard

1140
01:38:04,350 --> 01:38:09,010
see we have our printout here and so it's no matter how I do this it's it's impossible to see.

1141
01:38:09,250 --> 01:38:13,970
So we're just going to kind of run through this together and so as you can see this is a five-year

1142
01:38:13,970 --> 01:38:21,050
net revenue trend we have data on rounds and we can see if we just go left to right here just our

1143
01:38:21,050 --> 01:38:28,810
revenue in Greenpeace alone has almost doubled in the last five years and so we can see that is not just

1144
01:38:28,810 --> 01:38:35,450
are recent rate increases, our rounds have increased incrementally as well and so you can see

1145
01:38:35,450 --> 01:38:42,150
enough that far right hand column there are revenue per round that's where you obviously see,

1146
01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:51,430
we made a targeted effort to increase our rates and so that is reflected in 2023 with that revenue

1147
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:58,910
around and so a little bit further down, our driving range revenue is increasing kind of in kind

1148
01:38:58,910 --> 01:39:05,390
with what we see overall at the golf course, it's just an overall increase usage at the facility

1149
01:39:05,390 --> 01:39:12,730
and pretty substantially so. And again, with power cards in 2023, we were operating on 14 cards.

1150
01:39:12,890 --> 01:39:19,370
And we now have 27. And so you can see that amount isn't going to double overnight, but it's going

1151
01:39:19,370 --> 01:39:26,430
increase because obviously we're not going to have 20, 7, 28 cards in rotation all the time,

1152
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:33,530
but where we were running out of cards to provide by noon, this is going to provide that much needed

1153
01:39:34,750 --> 01:39:41,250
back up to our all of our golfers and as a much needed revenue source for golf operations.

1154
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:46,450
And so we have a little note here at the bottom, the simulators through the end of April.

1155
01:39:46,450 --> 01:39:49,770
So through the first four months of generated $40,000.

1156
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:51,390
So this is fantastic.

1157
01:39:51,570 --> 01:39:53,990
This is exactly what we wanted them to do.

1158
01:39:54,850 --> 01:39:59,470
I think if you talk to Chris, the pro over at Trailhead,

1159
01:39:59,610 --> 01:40:03,210
he will tell you that this is an absolute success.

1160
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:08,050
So far, we will see this dip as the weather gets nicer.

1161
01:40:08,550 --> 01:40:10,370
And so will they still get used absolutely?

1162
01:40:11,670 --> 01:40:15,710
But our target months for the simulators are

1163
01:40:16,510 --> 01:40:23,970
show their fall winter spring season this winter we're going to generate the vast majority of the revenue with those simulators.

1164
01:40:24,850 --> 01:40:31,930
And then obviously as we all know later this year we help to get a restaurant in there as well and start collecting these payments and

1165
01:40:31,930 --> 01:40:33,750
percentage of gross sales from that.

1166
01:40:34,190 --> 01:40:38,990
So additional sources of revenue that we didn't have before that we're going to have going forward.

1167
01:40:38,990 --> 01:40:41,110
So, next slide, please.

1168
01:40:43,050 --> 01:40:47,730
And so with this, so we talked about this a couple of years ago, I believe in 2022,

1169
01:40:49,090 --> 01:40:55,110
about kind of the history of how we track expenses at the golf course. And so if you look

1170
01:40:55,110 --> 01:41:02,650
in our budget, fund for 20 golf operations has, it has our revenues, and essentially it has our

1171
01:41:04,570 --> 01:41:10,690
pro-shop or pro-shop expenses and so you can see in here year over year so if we

1172
01:41:10,690 --> 01:41:15,030
started the far left we have our revenues we have our expenses if you look

1173
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:21,810
down at the bottom 2014 through 2018 we've averaged out that generally revenue

1174
01:41:21,810 --> 01:41:26,530
is not meeting expense just even within that window and I think we all knew

1175
01:41:26,530 --> 01:41:33,210
that that there was some sort of subsidy provided to the golf course from what we know as the

1176
01:41:33,210 --> 01:41:41,270
general fund. But as we creep into these subsequent years, we start to see with the increased

1177
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:49,310
usage of the golf course, obviously our revenues start to really outpace expense within this window

1178
01:41:49,310 --> 01:41:55,410
right here. There's revenue and expense, but that doesn't tell the whole tale. So obviously I think

1179
01:41:55,410 --> 01:41:59,390
We talked about this a lot when we were making decisions to finance the construction of the

1180
01:41:59,390 --> 01:42:00,230
trailhead facility.

1181
01:42:01,430 --> 01:42:07,270
We have other expenses that aren't accounted for in that little window that is the golf

1182
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:08,190
operations fund.

1183
01:42:09,050 --> 01:42:14,070
And the reason for that is because I wasn't here when this was developed, but I understand

1184
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:19,070
the premise behind it was if you have maintenance of parks and you have equipment associated

1185
01:42:19,070 --> 01:42:24,170
with that maintenance, it can be used for parks and golf course.

1186
01:42:24,170 --> 01:42:30,320
And so rather than splitting that out that all lived in the general fund and splitting out

1187
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:36,790
those expenses is really troublesome when you have somebody that could potentially be mowing

1188
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:41,110
some area of the golf course and then goes and finds a soil five minutes later and how are we

1189
01:42:41,110 --> 01:42:48,510
tracking that data accurately. And so we've reached kind of this logical conclusion and this evolutionary

1190
01:42:48,510 --> 01:42:57,610
conclusion that our staff in operations is specialized enough that we don't need to be doing this

1191
01:42:57,610 --> 01:43:04,470
anymore. So we have dedicated staff for the golf course maintenance that we can now track under

1192
01:43:04,470 --> 01:43:10,510
the golf operations funder. I mean, I case can easily be made that we need to start doing that.

1193
01:43:10,690 --> 01:43:16,930
Do we have to know should we properly? So that is going to be some recommendation that we start to

1194
01:43:16,930 --> 01:43:24,570
on as we get into budget season is how does council want to track this information also

1195
01:43:24,570 --> 01:43:28,230
understanding that we have additional pieces of information to go over on the right side of

1196
01:43:28,230 --> 01:43:35,210
the sheet and how do we want the debt pay back structure to look how do we maximize that.

1197
01:43:35,530 --> 01:43:41,970
And so as we get into that third column we have maintenance expense reported in the general fund

1198
01:43:42,690 --> 01:43:45,310
and then to the right of that we have our operating position.

1199
01:43:45,310 --> 01:43:53,590
and so that operating position accounts for all of that labor in the general fund that should be charged

1200
01:43:53,590 --> 01:44:01,990
to the golf course. And so we see here, you know, forever, we were, you know, probably we were

1201
01:44:01,990 --> 01:44:07,070
giving roughly $150,000 from the general fund towards the maintenance of the golf course through

1202
01:44:07,070 --> 01:44:14,550
labor. And so in 2019 about the same. So as coincide with the previous payoff of that debt

1203
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:21,830
of us for trailhead, we start to see, okay, well, in 2020, okay, holy cow, we're up three

1204
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:26,690
grand, in 2021, okay, we're doing even better, and this is obviously coinciding with all

1205
01:44:26,690 --> 01:44:33,410
this increased activity that we could never really say before that, wow, our operating position

1206
01:44:34,010 --> 01:44:42,930
is to the plus, oh, okay, that's fantastic. And so, as we get into 2022, 2022, 2023, it

1207
01:44:42,930 --> 01:44:48,610
back down again because we're prepping the new building for what it's going to be for the next 50 years.

1208
01:44:48,750 --> 01:44:54,470
And so there's cost associated with that. We understand that. And that's that is a fantastic tale. I

1209
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:59,890
think that we want our citizens to know as we have had a massive increase in activity, a massive increase in

1210
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:27,900
New. And so that, I think that's a beneficial story to tell or beneficial position to tell our citizens. But it's not, again, the full picture. And so as we get into what this debt service is, the life of the golf course, it's fair to just point out, here's the net position. If this was a private business, here's how function and here's here's the kind of the, the total balance after everything is considered.

1211
01:45:27,900 --> 01:45:32,880
And so obviously, we're going to have debt service for the next hopefully 10 years.

1212
01:45:33,380 --> 01:45:37,960
We have a 20-year note, but the plan is to supercharge a pay-offs as soon as we're not

1213
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,560
going to get penalized for it.

1214
01:45:39,980 --> 01:45:47,960
And so we have a minimum debt service payment for the next five years at the least, and then

1215
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:55,800
we're going to supercharge this as we can build up that repayment fund of roughly 450,000

1216
01:45:55,800 --> 01:46:02,580
So everything considered, you know, as the golf course ever going to truly pay for itself,

1217
01:46:02,740 --> 01:46:08,980
probably not it provides a very valuable service, I think, to the community. It has a flex space,

1218
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:14,900
that the community has told us that they need, that we fulfilled with this. And so with that,

1219
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:20,800
I think we wanted to put a bow really on this discussion to make sure that there isn't any mixed messaging

1220
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:26,400
out there with regards to, well as the golf course paying for itself, Chris would love to tell you

1221
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:34,560
yes, and they have been doing fantastic. But it's important to kind of give, paint this with a

1222
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:41,020
broader brush and get all of, get all of the information out in front. And then we can decide

1223
01:46:41,020 --> 01:46:50,300
how we want to supercharge this payoff of the debt. And so with that, how this looks is we can,

1224
01:46:50,300 --> 01:46:55,740
we can keep the maintenance of the golf course in the general fund and use any excess revenue

1225
01:46:55,740 --> 01:47:03,560
that the golf course generates, not paying that back towards a pre-payment of the trailhead

1226
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:10,660
note. Or we can redirect all the maintenance expense in the general fund under golf operations.

1227
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:18,680
And this was some of the discussion points we brought up during the trailhead financing discussion

1228
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,900
was are we going to use general fund dollars to pay off this loan? And the answer was really

1229
01:47:22,900 --> 01:47:27,520
no, we're going to use real estate exercise tax, and we're going to use any excess funding

1230
01:47:28,220 --> 01:47:33,380
that the golf course generated under its current structure towards pay off. So,

1231
01:47:33,380 --> 01:47:39,500
both things can be true, but it's really up to counsel on how we want that mechanism to play it.

1232
01:47:39,700 --> 01:47:47,380
And so with that, we can continue to have this discussion. We'll dive a little bit deeper further

1233
01:47:47,380 --> 01:47:53,480
as we get into budget season, ultimately on how we want this to look, but essentially that's

1234
01:47:53,480 --> 01:48:00,340
our position now, and I think the golf course has a phenomenal future ahead of it. What that

1235
01:48:00,340 --> 01:48:02,340
I'll take any questions.

1236
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:05,140
Any questions?

1237
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:10,180
All right, Councilman Revolve, more of the comment.

1238
01:48:10,740 --> 01:48:13,920
I was at the Driving Range Sunday and Ty was there.

1239
01:48:14,140 --> 01:48:17,200
He said it's just been hugely busy.

1240
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:17,620
Yes.

1241
01:48:17,620 --> 01:48:17,700
Yes.

1242
01:48:18,260 --> 01:48:18,360
Yeah.

1243
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,940
So, and it didn't come up in Mark's report,

1244
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,300
but is there anything happening with the restaurant?

1245
01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:26,840
We'll have that discussion.

1246
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,260
We'll play itself out at the appropriate time, but yes.

1247
01:48:29,260 --> 01:48:32,120
So, yeah, they were busy.

1248
01:48:33,380 --> 01:48:33,440
Yeah.

1249
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,000
Councilmember Kennedy.

1250
01:48:35,660 --> 01:48:36,840
Oh, and then, and then Mayor Curtin.

1251
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:38,120
Thanks, Kyle.

1252
01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:39,340
That's a great report.

1253
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:40,900
Yeah.

1254
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,760
The main is the expansion report in general fund.

1255
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:48,480
I'm very strongly on that needs to be shown always, always, always.

1256
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,780
Go, of course, that I know for a long period of time, people have filled this.

1257
01:48:52,780 --> 01:48:56,200
Making money is not making money where the case may be on it.

1258
01:48:56,200 --> 01:49:00,020
I don't think it's probably ever going to make net money.

1259
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,640
And quite honestly, I've said this to the glue in the face.

1260
01:49:03,060 --> 01:49:07,560
I'm not really concerned about that because if we're subsidizing that to some degree,

1261
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,800
as long as the citizen knows what that is, there's a thing called intrinsic value.

1262
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:17,900
And there was an intrinsic value that it looked like in a period from the very start up until

1263
01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:21,380
2020 when we put a lot of research into it.

1264
01:49:21,380 --> 01:49:25,100
We subsidized about $150,000-$60,000 a year.

1265
01:49:25,660 --> 01:49:29,240
And I remember at the time we put a lot of time and effort into looking at, if we didn't

1266
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:34,600
have the golf course, if we had that 54 acres in it was a park, well, what it cost to maintain

1267
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,520
that?

1268
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:40,700
And then difference was about $160,000 that we would still be maintaining.

1269
01:49:41,480 --> 01:49:48,840
So if you look at that from the standpoint of it, would we pay $160,000 to have 54 acres

1270
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:54,640
a beautiful with it has a tremendous intrinsic value. I think yes, I think the citizens will always

1271
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:59,280
look at that and go hold it. That's great because you'll get out of their mind as it will

1272
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,920
we put five million into it or eight million is not paying for itself. We need you to do this.

1273
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:09,400
We need to do that. Break it down to say these are their hard costs and to do that. We need to

1274
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:16,780
have the all of the expenses not buried in the general fund, but specifically for the golf course.

1275
01:50:16,780 --> 01:50:19,520
Thank you. I'm really encouraged by this.

1276
01:50:19,740 --> 01:50:21,320
Right. Mayor for Tim.

1277
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,160
Thanks, Kyle, for this report as well.

1278
01:50:26,020 --> 01:50:27,400
I don't really have a question.

1279
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:29,180
It's more of a comment.

1280
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,000
And I appreciate what you said Kyle about.

1281
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:34,700
The fact that.

1282
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,980
Essentially, this is not paying for itself.

1283
01:50:37,740 --> 01:50:41,320
And as councilmember Kennedy said, it will it will likely.

1284
01:50:42,060 --> 01:50:44,900
Not necessarily get to the paying for itself.

1285
01:50:44,900 --> 01:50:50,860
I guess my disappointment is that when we had these discussions over the past couple of years,

1286
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:55,540
we were telling the citizens that it was paying for itself.

1287
01:50:56,980 --> 01:51:05,100
And I feel like we should have been more upfront about that when we were having these prior discussions.

1288
01:51:05,660 --> 01:51:08,360
So more of a comment, Kyle, and a question.

1289
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,540
But I appreciate the direction that we're adding in as well.

1290
01:51:12,540 --> 01:51:16,340
All right. Any other questions, guys?

1291
01:51:16,780 --> 01:51:17,580
Councillor, we're Spencer.

1292
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:18,580
Yeah, just one question.

1293
01:51:19,180 --> 01:51:20,880
Kyle, thanks for this report.

1294
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:27,060
So for 2023, the revenue, the versus expense is pretty tight.

1295
01:51:27,940 --> 01:51:32,260
And do we anticipate that it's going to continue to be that tight?

1296
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:40,960
No, so we really laid the foundation in 2023 with the

1297
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,460
revenue to really start out pacing these expenses.

1298
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,440
And so if we don't start seeing that,

1299
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:46,780
then we have to figure out why.

1300
01:51:47,260 --> 01:51:50,700
So because that is the crux behind a lot of these improvements

1301
01:51:50,700 --> 01:51:54,740
that we saw and the rating increases that trailed that was

1302
01:51:54,740 --> 01:51:59,600
that we need to start maximizing revenue for this facility.

1303
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:01,440
Okay.

1304
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:02,520
Caspar McKenney.

1305
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,700
I like making comment on the simulators.

1306
01:52:05,480 --> 01:52:09,140
I believe once we get some sort of food facility in that,

1307
01:52:09,140 --> 01:52:11,960
Well, simulators are going to start doing substantially more.

1308
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,600
So we will attract individuals that are not going to be there for golf, but they will look

1309
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,660
at that and say, I'm going to go over and get a bite to eat.

1310
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:19,720
I want to use the simulators.

1311
01:52:20,220 --> 01:52:24,160
We're going to get a clientele that we probably don't have now, so I think they're going to

1312
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:25,020
do very well.

1313
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,920
Once you get a food service in there.

1314
01:52:28,340 --> 01:52:34,660
I think an untapped, an untapped market for that, especially during the summer when people are

1315
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:35,400
outside.

1316
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:57,980
Um, you know, with wasabi dodgeball and all the other thing that does, I can see somebody bringing in their, you know, nine, 10, 11 year olds for birthday parties, you know, reserve both of them. It's pretty, if you have that many kids is going to actually end up paying paying, paying, being pretty cheap per kid to do that. So, you know, put that hat on, come somewhere to I'm, right, it comes, comes.

1317
01:52:57,980 --> 01:53:07,040
I just wondered if there's some more marketing we could do around that as well because I have a nine year old and I don't know anything about golf simulators are that they do that because I don't.

1318
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,260
So I think that if there's some more marketing that we can do about those opportunities.

1319
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:11,660
That would be awesome.

1320
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:15,280
And then I also think that once the restaurant does get in there.

1321
01:53:15,740 --> 01:53:22,020
One of the things we talked about as far as revenue generation was using the flex space for bigger events and weddings and whatever else is there.

1322
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:27,300
So I think everything's going to be on the upswing and may not pay for itself, but I think it's going to be doing.

1323
01:53:27,300 --> 01:53:31,640
I'll just all appeal from here. I think I'll let you know how the wedding thing goes.

1324
01:53:32,980 --> 01:53:39,720
All right, anybody else? All right. Thanks very much. Thank you. Thanks, Kyle.

1325
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:47,840
Next item, I wanted to address this during the report versus waiting to get to the second read of

1326
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:52,620
the ordinance just because this was pointed out at the end of this discussion at the last council meeting

1327
01:53:52,620 --> 01:53:57,380
rightfully so by council member Cargill. And so if you have looked through your packet,

1328
01:53:57,380 --> 01:54:26,600
You'll see a little bit different presentation of the red line version of the ordinance as it is presented there with a draft stamp on it and another version that is a clean version and so they are identical the difference is that one is a red line version where you see both the pre and post change and the other clean version is only the post change.

1329
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:38,380
And I point that out because the error that occurred was not with the previously enacted

1330
01:54:38,380 --> 01:54:38,980
ordinance.

1331
01:54:38,980 --> 01:54:52,720
In other words, ordinance 119D was passed and put into effect without section 2F, which was

1332
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:54,160
the issue that came up.

1333
01:54:54,160 --> 01:55:15,880
And so, the reason that occurred during the last council meeting during the first read was because the change was made on the floor during the discussion and it was not put into the red line version and for whatever reason we signed the red line version into effect.

1334
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,840
And so when we picked up the document to make the changes,

1335
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,540
that came over and it shouldn't have been there.

1336
01:55:21,620 --> 01:55:23,980
It was adopted without two F in there.

1337
01:55:24,500 --> 01:55:27,180
And so what you'll see in both the red line version

1338
01:55:27,180 --> 01:55:31,460
and the clean version is sans 2F,

1339
01:55:31,580 --> 01:55:34,740
because it was not part of ordinance 119D.

1340
01:55:35,300 --> 01:55:45,840
And so both of these are the versions that are completely

1341
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:50,200
proposed during the first read of 119E.

1342
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,060
And so if there are questions about that,

1343
01:55:53,140 --> 01:55:54,840
I'll be happy to address those.

1344
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:56,320
But I wanted to take the opportunity

1345
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:59,660
for transparency sake and to confirm the fact

1346
01:55:59,660 --> 01:56:02,980
that we have also gone through the rest of the document

1347
01:56:02,980 --> 01:56:06,520
to ensure that there weren't no other items

1348
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,480
that snuck in there that were not supposed to be in there.

1349
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,940
And we've confirmed that that was the only thing

1350
01:56:11,940 --> 01:56:13,800
that was reflected that shouldn't have been.

1351
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:17,480
And so what you'll see in the packet in the proposed

1352
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:22,920
one-19e second read, again, is the same exact documents,

1353
01:56:23,060 --> 01:56:25,460
but one is the red line version with pre-inpost.

1354
01:56:25,940 --> 01:56:28,040
And one is the clean version with only post.

1355
01:56:29,020 --> 01:56:31,800
But those are what you will be considering in the second

1356
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:33,260
read later in the meeting.

1357
01:56:36,250 --> 01:56:38,770
Any questions before we get there?

1358
01:56:39,310 --> 01:56:40,250
OK, very good.

1359
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:43,750
And then the last item, you heard the mayor earlier

1360
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:50,270
talk about. We have overlapping recognition weeks. We have the municipal clerks recognition

1361
01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:55,210
week that we've already talked about a little bit. And then we also have public service

1362
01:56:55,210 --> 01:57:05,330
recognition week, which goes back to 1985. And so this is a federal program that applies to

1363
01:57:05,330 --> 01:57:11,230
public servants at all levels, federal state, county, local, tribal. And so the reason I point

1364
01:57:11,230 --> 01:57:16,410
this out is because, and as you know, we have an awful lot of folks that are out there, not

1365
01:57:16,410 --> 01:57:20,870
only that work for the city of Liberty Lake, but that work for Spokane County and work for

1366
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:26,190
our neighbors next door and work for the folks, the municipalities over across the border.

1367
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:31,950
And so all of those people contribute every day to making sure that the communities that they serve,

1368
01:57:32,230 --> 01:57:39,050
have the things that they need or the public safety is where it needs to be, the roads are clean,

1369
01:57:39,050 --> 01:57:41,970
and the parks are clean, the equipment is maintained.

1370
01:57:42,590 --> 01:57:44,850
And so I just wanted to point that out

1371
01:57:44,850 --> 01:57:47,970
from the city administrators, vantage point.

1372
01:57:48,110 --> 01:57:50,310
None of this could be possible without the staff

1373
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:53,810
that we have on board here in this community,

1374
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:55,530
as well as the others that surround us.

1375
01:57:55,610 --> 01:57:58,310
And so just a personal thanks for me to them.

1376
01:57:58,350 --> 01:58:00,990
And then I guess to encourage everyone else,

1377
01:58:00,990 --> 01:58:03,570
as you see these folks wondering around town,

1378
01:58:03,570 --> 01:58:06,570
working on the things that they work on every day,

1379
01:58:06,570 --> 01:58:11,130
extend them a word of thanks, especially during this week,

1380
01:58:11,330 --> 01:58:13,330
this public service recognition week,

1381
01:58:14,170 --> 01:58:16,590
and that concludes my report, Mayor.

1382
01:58:16,910 --> 01:58:18,890
All right. Thank you. All right.

1383
01:58:19,150 --> 01:58:21,830
Up next, we have community engagement commission update.

1384
01:58:22,410 --> 01:58:25,450
Robin, welcome. Good evening.

1385
01:58:26,230 --> 01:58:29,270
And councilmember. Can you move the mic down a little bit for yourself?

1386
01:58:29,630 --> 01:58:29,630
Yes.

1387
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:36,620
Okay. And my coming out so far, me better.

1388
01:58:36,620 --> 01:58:48,340
Okay, good evening. I'm Robin Beckett all in a member of the Community Engagement Commission and giving up an update report on our efforts for this month.

1389
01:58:49,500 --> 01:58:52,600
So, we need to move back a little bit in March.

1390
01:58:52,900 --> 01:59:02,920
Lisa Key provided an update with regards to the comprehensive plan that she is working on. She and her group are all working on.

1391
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:07,840
So, a big part of that will be public in participation and engagement.

1392
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:26,960
So, we are currently, we've provided us last month, the presentation, and this month will have what we call a special workshop with her, and we'll be working in concert and collaboration with the Planning Department and Planning Commission on this,

1393
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:34,580
realize and that it's an important feature of the comp plan to get these public input that's

1394
01:59:34,580 --> 01:59:36,360
needed for this document.

1395
01:59:38,580 --> 01:59:44,320
So, you know, probably it always is ongoing and continuous till whenever

1396
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:52,680
you adopt it in June of 2026. So, we will figure out and work on a way on how best to launch that.

1397
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:59,920
So, going back to March again if you were calm, we had a workshop.

1398
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:13,880
Between the city council and one of the things that came out of it was, how can we have a meeting that's outside the parameters of just the normal city council here.

1399
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:35,880
So two of our city council commission members formed a subcommittee. It was bill normal in the summer of our own came up with the rough draft, an idea of the town hall and it was I think this was discussed of the subject matter would be on transparency and at the trailhead.

1400
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:44,240
So, that rough draft is out where we were viewing it again in May this month on next week.

1401
02:00:45,660 --> 02:00:52,220
And we'll hopefully finalize that for everybody for that town hall meeting.

1402
02:00:53,580 --> 02:01:00,560
So, one of the things I recognized during our everybody's discussion today was the farmer's market.

1403
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:06,560
So we're also discussing the farmers market and realize and if you can recall

1404
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:12,400
I think it was last year. We did a display on favorite events and really the farmers market

1405
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:16,750
It's just it comes up to the top community event that we have

1406
02:01:17,180 --> 02:01:23,500
We want to keep on improving and enhancing whether feed displays interactive displays because

1407
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,480
That gets then more of the demographics

1408
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:41,120
projects, broader demographics coming up to talk with us, we mentioned at the workshop about the binder that we're putting together so that we have that information, we're able to take people's comments and hopefully get back to them.

1409
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:56,460
So it's just a continual process of what we can do to improve and enhance that process at the farmers market knowing that that's really one of the.

1410
02:01:56,460 --> 02:02:00,240
community. Are there any questions or comments?

1411
02:02:02,820 --> 02:02:05,780
Well, that that interactive sign-up sheet

1412
02:02:05,780 --> 02:02:10,320
should be available to you guys as well. So we structured it with a couple of spots for council

1413
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:15,180
and then that meeting engagement on there and then when it whoever the guest is for the week,

1414
02:02:15,180 --> 02:02:21,100
whether it's the Friends of the Library or whichever group it is. Okay. And this year we have

1415
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:28,440
It was asked that I usually do quite a few displays and out there and for the most part

1416
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:33,980
I used to just come up there and think, okay I'll do this display but I'm a little bit

1417
02:02:33,980 --> 02:02:40,660
more organized display for each it's every two weeks and some subject matters so I know that

1418
02:02:40,660 --> 02:02:48,120
the CEC will be commenting on that but that this month's meeting also so that is it is good to have

1419
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:52,180
that are organized so that we know what's out there and it might pertain like.

1420
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:59,060
For example, we're thinking of when I click this together, about one, we're having the

1421
02:02:59,060 --> 02:03:05,700
book sale, maybe a week before that, but what is your favorite book just to help to encourage

1422
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:11,940
that help on the book sale. So it's just things like that. Anybody have any questions?

1423
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:17,100
Go ahead,

1424
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:20,180
having it in the flex place at the trail in building.

1425
02:03:20,500 --> 02:03:21,420
That's been a discussion.

1426
02:03:21,940 --> 02:03:22,000
Yes.

1427
02:03:22,500 --> 02:03:22,840
OK.

1428
02:03:22,940 --> 02:03:26,600
When do you think might do that or not might happen?

1429
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:29,800
I believe it's some time in June.

1430
02:03:31,260 --> 02:03:31,860
OK.

1431
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:35,720
Hopefully we'll have wireless mics in that room before then.

1432
02:03:36,500 --> 02:03:39,600
And that's just, I think that's always flexible,

1433
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:42,960
because we're still working on certain logistics.

1434
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:44,240
Yeah.

1435
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:48,780
with a town hall, I'm going to need a mic to walk around with an accord. Is it very long?

1436
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:53,740
We might want to consider that and we can't get those in before that. You might want to have it

1437
02:03:53,740 --> 02:03:58,240
here at the library somewhere. We'll set the figure that out. Exactly. And those are the

1438
02:03:58,860 --> 02:04:07,940
logisics, but that's what one year or one facility that was mentioned. Right. Any other comments or questions?

1439
02:04:07,940 --> 02:04:10,180
All right, thanks for me in here.

1440
02:04:10,820 --> 02:04:11,940
Thank you.

1441
02:04:12,860 --> 02:04:13,200
Okay.

1442
02:04:13,660 --> 02:04:15,720
Next up, smoking and rally fire department.

1443
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:17,300
Chief, welcome.

1444
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:22,640
Good evening, Madam Mayor.

1445
02:04:23,540 --> 02:04:27,700
Seeing council members, city officials and citizens of Liberty Lake.

1446
02:04:27,820 --> 02:04:29,760
I'm Frank Soto, junior fire chief.

1447
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:34,340
And I'm going to present to you our April response time numbers.

1448
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:38,080
Before I get started, I would like to just as a reminder.

1449
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:44,980
like Mark had said on May 16th, as 6pm at Station 3, we'll have our Liberty Lake Speed Academy

1450
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:51,960
and you're all welcome. Just so you know some of you, if you're late I'm going to put you

1451
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:59,980
to work with me watching dishes in a station or a servant dinner, so or you have to pay an entry fee,

1452
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:04,820
so there's no free rides. All right, let's get started. Next slide please.

1453
02:05:04,820 --> 02:05:09,620
So for the month of April, I told Paul Bynne, this is for all of our response areas.

1454
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:14,120
We had 1881 911 calls of those calls.

1455
02:05:14,500 --> 02:05:19,040
84% were for emergency medical services, and I apologize.

1456
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:22,240
I was hoping to make this a little bit smaller so you couldn't see that at all.

1457
02:05:23,700 --> 02:05:25,820
I hope you are getting it on your computer screens.

1458
02:05:27,300 --> 02:05:29,340
I'll bring some glasses next time.

1459
02:05:29,660 --> 02:05:30,740
Madam Mayor, for you.

1460
02:05:35,940 --> 02:05:46,860
So for total call volume, we are at 7053 calls for the year to date to April. Next slide, please.

1461
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,920
So this is for the month of April.

1462
02:05:52,040 --> 02:06:00,560
We had 2318 or 2218 responses for those 1881 call out.

1463
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:07,320
So again, as a reminder, while all responses require one unit to respond,

1464
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:11,120
there are several that have more than one that to respond.

1465
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:15,860
So that number, your response numbers should always be more than your incident numbers.

1466
02:06:15,860 --> 02:06:24,180
numbers. If you look down to the next category, our responses for individual units we've had

1467
02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:31,700
five units with over 200 calls for each for the month of April. Below that, we currently have

1468
02:06:31,700 --> 02:06:41,520
three units who are over a thousand calls for the year. So again, it's no mystery. It is our

1469
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:43,740
opportunity neighborhood, municipality,

1470
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:49,080
engine one, engine seven, and engine the next slide, please.

1471
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:54,580
So these are the call volumes for the individual

1472
02:06:54,580 --> 02:06:56,980
incentive locations by station areas.

1473
02:06:57,240 --> 02:07:01,340
So each of our ten station areas, you'll see if you add

1474
02:07:01,340 --> 02:07:03,280
up the percentages for first three.

1475
02:07:03,580 --> 02:07:07,600
They make a 45% of our total call bond is in the opportunity

1476
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:10,460
neighborhood next slide, please.

1477
02:07:13,980 --> 02:07:18,260
So this is our automatic aid, mutual aid numbers.

1478
02:07:18,900 --> 02:07:24,740
The top numbers are where we go into another department's district in the bottom numbers

1479
02:07:24,740 --> 02:07:29,520
are other districts that come into our areas to help out with automatic aid.

1480
02:07:29,660 --> 02:07:32,960
And again, automatic aid is the closest appropriate unit.

1481
02:07:33,420 --> 02:07:37,560
We do not have automatic aid with all area of fire departments because that is

1482
02:07:39,380 --> 02:07:45,280
contractual based on the ability to stand up a full department, for example, a newman lake.

1483
02:07:45,820 --> 02:07:51,840
We do not have automatic aid with newman lake. We do have mutual aid with them.

1484
02:07:53,140 --> 02:08:03,340
But these numbers here are specifically towards automatic aid. So 80 out of district 113 in district. Next slide please.

1485
02:08:05,900 --> 02:08:13,200
These are numbers for each month to month, and then based over the last five years and

1486
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:19,560
these are the busiest five years, I wasn't going to get repetitive as I usually do, but

1487
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:27,960
I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway. This April, the 1800 A1 calls is our DCSA

1488
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:36,020
So, I'm really surprised. I don't know what's causing the increase in call quality right now,

1489
02:08:36,660 --> 02:08:46,400
but we are currently 8.7% ahead of last year's numbers, and 7% ahead of our all-time highest amount,

1490
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:53,640
which was in 2020. So things are again or not slowing down. And again, I don't know what's going on.

1491
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:57,800
I couldn't tell you what it is, one thing or another, I just know it's busy.

1492
02:08:58,980 --> 02:08:59,940
Next slide, please.

1493
02:09:01,420 --> 02:09:04,080
This is just total call volume here to date.

1494
02:09:05,220 --> 02:09:06,080
Next slide, please.

1495
02:09:08,140 --> 02:09:11,300
And these will be going over specifically in Liberty Lake.

1496
02:09:11,980 --> 02:09:12,600
Next slide.

1497
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:18,840
So for the month of April, we had 120 calls of those 74, 74%

1498
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:20,720
for a reduced to medical services,

1499
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:25,460
those 70, 4%, 44% were for advanced life support

1500
02:09:25,460 --> 02:09:28,120
and 30% were for basic life support.

1501
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:30,140
Next slide, please.

1502
02:09:31,100 --> 02:09:33,740
Here in date, we're at 426 calls.

1503
02:09:33,940 --> 02:09:38,960
Again, roughly 75% are for emergency medical services.

1504
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:43,440
And those are broken out further into 46% for ALS

1505
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,800
and 28% for BLS.

1506
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:56,360
Next slide. So for the month of April, the 120 calls responses that we did have generated

1507
02:09:56,360 --> 02:10:03,120
148 responses and year to date by at 510 responses. Obviously, engine three is our

1508
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:09,460
busiest unit as is our primary unit out of Liberty Lake. And so clearly they have the most

1509
02:10:09,460 --> 02:10:15,540
have breast responses and calls in their area. Next slide please.

1510
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,200
We did go bring it out further

1511
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:27,180
for just specific to Liberty Lake and surprising enough, this is our second busiest April

1512
02:10:27,180 --> 02:10:32,240
for Liberty Lake. So you can look over the numbers, a month and a month over the last

1513
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:36,560
five years and you can see that we're steadily climbing up and getting

1514
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:41,480
visitor. And then you're to date, we are technically a roughly

1515
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:45,600
just under 4% less than last year's numbers, which is good to

1516
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:49,840
see. However, there is a slight increase in fire and

1517
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:53,480
calls, and that's always makes me a little bit nervous, especially

1518
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:59,200
as we are coming up on our wild, wild viruses. So again, we'll just

1519
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:03,080
day on it and get there's a quick weekend.

1520
02:11:03,820 --> 02:11:06,860
The next slide is our total year to date,

1521
02:11:06,900 --> 02:11:12,460
call volume 4, Liberty Lake, and next slide.

1522
02:11:12,780 --> 02:11:14,440
Try a little bit different, Matt.

1523
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:16,780
But I know when it came out on this,

1524
02:11:16,860 --> 02:11:18,380
I knew it was going to be like this on here.

1525
02:11:18,540 --> 02:11:21,920
It's not as pretty as my maps.

1526
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:24,840
So Liberty Lake, you'll notice it to the right

1527
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:25,820
and at the bottom.

1528
02:11:26,620 --> 02:11:29,100
These are not, these are just heat censored

1529
02:11:29,100 --> 02:11:34,900
mass in a sense that the smaller the number is blue as in cold and as it warms up the

1530
02:11:34,900 --> 02:11:39,340
turns to green as it gets warmer, turns to yellow as it gets warmer, turns to an orange as

1531
02:11:39,340 --> 02:11:45,520
and then when it's hot it's red so you can I want to say you can see it but technically you can

1532
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:52,960
so the next slide please. So our final slide is you're the date making you can see the opportunity

1533
02:11:52,960 --> 02:12:01,020
the Nibrod area is the triangle of doom, as I call it, and then our own guardian, which shows

1534
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:04,380
up significantly within the map.

1535
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:08,980
That's it for my report. I'm here for questions.

1536
02:12:10,900 --> 02:12:11,640
Okay, Ty.

1537
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:14,720
Well, it comes from a sense here. I mean, it comes from our Kennedy.

1538
02:12:14,980 --> 02:12:15,480
Thanks, Chief.

1539
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:22,340
So opportunity neighborhood is it just based on population density? Is that the most densely populated

1540
02:12:22,340 --> 02:12:32,600
area, but it is, but it's just, yeah, it's just, uh, uh, yeah, I'm kind of been able to pin

1541
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:39,100
down any, any other, I mean, we got it, we got it all there. So yeah, so it's just, it's just

1542
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:47,260
just an older neighborhood. So it's just things are a little bit more, uh, like we generally don't

1543
02:12:47,260 --> 02:12:52,420
have as many, you know, fire alarm calls, things that need shared in areas where things are newer,

1544
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:59,660
because things are, you know, kept up to speed. So, but generally speaking, a lot of roads,

1545
02:12:59,960 --> 02:13:08,060
so significant car accidents, things like that. So it's a larger area, but yeah, it's heavily populated

1546
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:15,380
requires a lot of attention. Councilor McKenney. Thanks. Thanks, Chief, I appreciate you report.

1547
02:13:15,380 --> 02:13:20,460
And I also appreciate the font because I can still read it so it tells me I'm not over it.

1548
02:13:20,580 --> 02:13:21,100
Hale totally.

1549
02:13:21,820 --> 02:13:22,740
So I appreciate that.

1550
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:27,200
My question is regards to any drug related calls and stuff.

1551
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:28,360
You keep statistics?

1552
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:29,360
Oh yes.

1553
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:30,620
On that.

1554
02:13:30,820 --> 02:13:31,240
Yes sir.

1555
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:31,440
Sure.

1556
02:13:31,600 --> 02:13:32,740
Would you?

1557
02:13:33,140 --> 02:13:34,460
Well, I'll do you want better.

1558
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:39,660
So how about next, next month, I'll bring in some specific.

1559
02:13:39,780 --> 02:13:40,120
Very good.

1560
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:41,460
Because I don't want to generalize.

1561
02:13:41,460 --> 02:13:45,240
I have them, but I much, much rather, I'm a visual learner.

1562
02:13:45,820 --> 02:13:49,460
I like, well, I'm like, can I have my firefighters?

1563
02:13:49,980 --> 02:13:50,640
I like pictures.

1564
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:53,640
So I'd like to bring you those pictures with a numbers

1565
02:13:53,640 --> 02:13:57,120
unless you guys can put yourselves in and you'll be quite surprised

1566
02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,600
and maybe somewhat disturbed in what's going on out there.

1567
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:02,960
So I'll absolutely have that for you all.

1568
02:14:03,020 --> 02:14:05,480
Yeah, I would, I think I always would appreciate that

1569
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:07,600
because you can't watch the news at any time,

1570
02:14:07,740 --> 02:14:09,820
but they don't have some report on overdoses,

1571
02:14:09,820 --> 02:14:14,900
your Washington and all or whatever has happened there. So I think we have those statistics

1572
02:14:14,900 --> 02:14:20,360
I think it's going to help us better to see how we're going to be able to assist with these

1573
02:14:20,360 --> 02:14:26,520
challenges because we're moving forward. Absolutely. I will. I'll have it. I haven't down to

1574
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:36,160
I say I but my team of personnel or phenomenal. We have it down to the exact locations like

1575
02:14:37,080 --> 02:14:49,160
this store, this place, this house, we, we know exactly where they're coming, where the calls are generated and all sure all that information would be so, so you'll know it first time.

1576
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:51,300
That's memorable.

1577
02:14:52,460 --> 02:14:59,960
So kind of in relation to what he was just saying, and those has maps several screens back, has maps up like two.

1578
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,260
Senate, is that has or does products drugs? I mean, is that. Oh, no. This would be generally different

1579
02:15:09,260 --> 02:15:19,300
because we do categorize, we would categorize the drug overdoses, I think, alcohol calls are completely,

1580
02:15:19,620 --> 02:15:26,000
they're all categorized as the MS call specific. So, as matters, you know, gasoline spills,

1581
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:35,620
of poor ox bills, police bills, it could be a big diesel carrying anything within it,

1582
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:41,660
you know, acid vases, you know, and we're specifically, is this trying to look

1583
02:15:41,660 --> 02:15:45,840
doing what what streets, you know, bounded air, what's the boundaries.

1584
02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:53,420
That's agree. Well, I have it in my head. It is station

1585
02:15:55,600 --> 02:15:57,260
needs some hines,

1586
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:02,260
times to spray, to, uh,

1587
02:16:02,940 --> 02:16:05,140
as a university, my thinking university,

1588
02:16:05,620 --> 02:16:06,360
mobile phone up.

1589
02:16:06,940 --> 02:16:08,800
So, it's fairly significant.

1590
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:11,180
But by that map, I'd say,

1591
02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:12,860
not so much here, here or here.

1592
02:16:12,900 --> 02:16:13,080
Yeah, yeah.

1593
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:14,160
No, it makes sense.

1594
02:16:14,460 --> 02:16:16,320
I work in the triangle to do, man.

1595
02:16:16,720 --> 02:16:17,360
Yeah. So, okay.

1596
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:17,800
Thanks.

1597
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:19,200
I should.

1598
02:16:20,140 --> 02:16:20,460
All right.

1599
02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:23,700
Anybody else have any questions for the team?

1600
02:16:24,380 --> 02:16:25,100
Well, all right.

1601
02:16:25,260 --> 02:16:25,900
I appreciate it.

1602
02:16:29,750 --> 02:16:35,690
Okay, last but not least, we have the re-legs who are in water district, we have somebody online.

1603
02:16:42,820 --> 02:16:44,820
We're not a, I never see Tom.

1604
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:54,180
Doesn't look like it. Okay, well, if we end up finding out that we do have somebody from the sort of water district on, we will come back to them.

1605
02:16:54,640 --> 02:17:00,180
Okay, next up, no workshop discussions, we'll move on to the consent agenda, Mayor for Tim.

1606
02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:08,200
Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve general business consent agenda items 10 A, B, C, D, M, E.

1607
02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:15,400
We have a second from Councilmember Dunn. All right. All in favor of approving discussion.

1608
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:19,900
Well, it's consent agenda. Generally, there's no discussion on consent agenda.

1609
02:17:20,140 --> 02:17:22,500
That's why people wanted to pull something out.

1610
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:26,400
That would. Oh, am I too late. Well, that should have been done at the beginning of.

1611
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:46,200
Oh, okay, showing. That's on. Okay, go ahead if you'd like to. Well, just remember any of those changes need to happen when we do the agenda prove. Oh, okay, okay, 10 C. Okay, you want to move move to move 10 C to action items. Is that what the motion is. Yes, okay, do we have a second to move item 10.

1612
02:17:46,780 --> 02:17:53,700
And see, all right, we have a motion in a second. All in favor of moving general business, 10C to general.

1613
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:55,300
Mayor. Yes.

1614
02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:00,660
Do we need to, do I need to withdraw the previous motion since it was seconded?

1615
02:18:01,060 --> 02:18:02,320
Let's see first.

1616
02:18:02,580 --> 02:18:02,980
Okay.

1617
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:06,540
We have a votes to move it and then we'll address that. Good point.

1618
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:11,680
All right, all those in favor of moving consent agenda items see under general business actions.

1619
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:13,360
Please say I.

1620
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:34,320
Okay, well, I see three and I think I heard a four, one, two, three, okay, sorry, couldn't hear. All right, and then that would then those opposed would be one, two, all right, so motion passes for two, so we will move consent agenda C under general business. Now go ahead.

1621
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:43,400
Councillor Cargill. Okay, I'll withdraw my previous motion on approving and maybe see you in the next part.

1622
02:18:43,540 --> 02:18:45,880
Did someone second question? Yes, Dan did.

1623
02:18:46,340 --> 02:18:46,920
Okay, so.

1624
02:18:47,940 --> 02:18:52,180
So all of the necessary list to the initial motion is made.

1625
02:18:52,660 --> 02:18:52,840
Yes.

1626
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:55,140
So motion to the middle.

1627
02:18:55,340 --> 02:18:56,060
Thanks fine.

1628
02:18:56,320 --> 02:18:57,860
So I can vote and be.

1629
02:18:58,300 --> 02:18:59,700
Okay, so you got you.

1630
02:18:59,780 --> 02:19:00,380
Do you hear that, Chris?

1631
02:19:00,780 --> 02:19:00,860
Yeah.

1632
02:19:00,860 --> 02:19:08,310
Okay, so those in favor of approving general business consent agenda items A, B, D, and E, please say aye.

1633
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:18,930
Any opposed? Right motion passes six, zero. Okay. Then we're on to general business, which, um, so 10 C has become 11 A.

1634
02:19:19,900 --> 02:19:25,700
So Mayor, I make a motion to approve general business item 11 A, the intergovernmental agreement between

1635
02:19:25,700 --> 02:19:29,880
the city of Liberty Lake regarding community trip reduction implementation.

1636
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:36,540
Perfect. We have a second. Second from Councilmember Doug. All right now. Discussion. That's memorable.

1637
02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:45,500
Okay, well after going over this couple of times, I guess my question is, how is this enforceable?

1638
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:54,720
I mean, you can't force people to take transit or carpool. So I guess I'm not clear on what the intent is.

1639
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:56,880
who's about you, you want to answer that mark?

1640
02:19:57,240 --> 02:20:05,700
So the intent is to promote programs and put mechanisms in place that help people make decisions

1641
02:20:05,700 --> 02:20:12,620
who do want to reduce the number of times they're commuting in a single passenger vehicle.

1642
02:20:13,240 --> 02:20:21,040
And so to your point, there is no real enforcement, but this is all an incentive-based program

1643
02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:35,640
to help particularly employers with that 100 employees and up and also public entities give their employees alternate options.

1644
02:20:36,460 --> 02:20:42,120
In order to larger employers in this city, promoting this to their employees?

1645
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:49,200
they are. Yes. And we would have to get a report from the county to show what level of

1646
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:54,400
participation is happening in those other employers, but I can tell you anecdotally annually,

1647
02:20:55,040 --> 02:21:02,900
there's a reception that kind of goes through the changes from year to year in participation rates.

1648
02:21:03,220 --> 02:21:08,880
In the last two years, I want to say at least five of our employers have been recognized.

1649
02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:13,500
I think Councilmember Don was at the last one, and maybe able to clarify that.

1650
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:19,280
There's an annual award and reception gesture, which employers and participants that can be

1651
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:24,280
prepared about your program are recognized and recognized in individual employees from the participation.

1652
02:21:25,220 --> 02:21:32,460
So I can't point to like, you know, the amazing statistics, but I'm excited that there are some really impressive changes in patterns, people being different.

1653
02:21:32,460 --> 02:21:36,940
like as well as people, yeah, years in, you know,

1654
02:21:37,020 --> 02:21:38,820
I'd say, transit-based community.

1655
02:21:39,700 --> 02:21:42,260
So I characterize it as really an encouragement

1656
02:21:42,260 --> 02:21:43,880
and promotion objective.

1657
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:47,600
It really is putting together the package of ways

1658
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:50,560
from employers to encourage employees

1659
02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:53,080
to find alter events to get to work.

1660
02:21:53,460 --> 02:21:55,220
Thank you for that clarification.

1661
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:56,900
It counts from records.

1662
02:21:57,160 --> 02:22:01,040
And I think that we usually get a like a glossy brochure

1663
02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:06,260
in our mailboxes of all the different agencies, what level they're at and everything to.

1664
02:22:06,540 --> 02:22:10,300
I feel like it came out fairly in the last couple of months or so, but it tells you

1665
02:22:10,820 --> 02:22:14,840
which agencies, how many trip reductions all of that. So look for that in the mailbox.

1666
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:22,440
Tate kind of administers this and she's she's doing a great job, especially since we hit that

1667
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:28,740
hundred mark. There's some more ways to put your data. And so the employees are encouraged to

1668
02:22:28,740 --> 02:22:34,780
mark going to the website and kind of keep track of, you know, how many trips they

1669
02:22:34,780 --> 02:22:39,440
made by themselves or or, you know, who they, how they got to work. And so that's

1670
02:22:39,440 --> 02:22:43,380
a really good place for data collection as well. Thank you, sir.

1671
02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:49,580
All right. So there's no other discussion or questions. We'll go ahead and take a vote.

1672
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:54,760
Those in favor of approving general business action item A, intergovernmental

1673
02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:58,080
agreement between smoking and county incentive library lake for community

1674
02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:03,560
reproduction implementation, please say aye aye aye aye any opposed aye

1675
02:23:03,560 --> 02:23:09,880
motion passes six zero. All right, council comments any council comments at this

1676
02:23:10,780 --> 02:23:11,540
point.

1677
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:19,420
Council member Kennedy. I should have more question in regard to trail that, you know,

1678
02:23:19,940 --> 02:23:23,380
meeting over there several times that the acoustics in that room are really

1679
02:23:23,380 --> 02:23:26,580
is a city looking at some way of putting,

1680
02:23:27,140 --> 02:23:31,420
I'll use example of curtains or installations better

1681
02:23:31,420 --> 02:23:35,340
into that ceiling, because I know it's very hard to hear

1682
02:23:35,340 --> 02:23:37,040
when somebody's speaking in there.

1683
02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:38,500
Sometimes it can be.

1684
02:23:38,540 --> 02:23:40,380
I know what the topic has come up.

1685
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:42,220
So as we're working on the microphones,

1686
02:23:42,900 --> 02:23:43,660
they're different things.

1687
02:23:43,900 --> 02:23:44,260
Very good.

1688
02:23:44,340 --> 02:23:45,780
Thank you.

1689
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:47,440
Anybody else?

1690
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:48,340
All right.

1691
02:23:48,580 --> 02:23:49,360
I know I'm not Council,

1692
02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:50,960
but just a couple quick reminders.

1693
02:23:50,960 --> 02:23:55,640
make sure your microphones are close to you guys, somebody almost have to eat them to be heard.

1694
02:23:55,820 --> 02:24:01,300
Remember, because sometimes people can't hear you online and then just in other reminders,

1695
02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:08,060
that any going for it, any changes to the agenda, if we're going to pull anything out of the

1696
02:24:08,060 --> 02:24:13,940
consent agenda, please make that request at the beginning of the meeting under the agenda approval.

1697
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:18,480
I appreciate that. All right, public hearings and appeals, we have no resolution,

1698
02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:23,700
So that brings us to ordinance 119 E, Kelsey ordinance

1699
02:24:26,260 --> 02:24:39,040
number 119 E in ordinance of the city of Liberty Lake Spokane County, Washington, amending ordinance number 119 D establishing the Liberty Lake Public Library and revealing any provisions and conflict thereof.

1700
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:41,160
All right, thank you.

1701
02:24:41,160 --> 02:24:45,580
We have a motion and I will promise all remember since in commenced before we take a vote.

1702
02:24:46,360 --> 02:24:47,640
Good Mayor Perthem.

1703
02:24:50,590 --> 02:24:55,530
Sorry, I had to get off mute there for a second. I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 19.

1704
02:24:56,390 --> 02:24:58,050
We have a second. Sorry.

1705
02:24:58,710 --> 02:24:59,730
All right. We have a second by council member.

1706
02:25:00,070 --> 02:25:01,270
Done. All right. Any questions?

1707
02:25:01,950 --> 02:25:03,590
Comments on one 19e.

1708
02:25:06,680 --> 02:25:11,140
All right. Not hearing you're seeing any. So at this time, since this is a second read ordinance,

1709
02:25:11,300 --> 02:25:14,640
we'll open things up for citizen comments on this topic only.

1710
02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:17,780
So if there's anyone here in Chambers are online,

1711
02:25:17,780 --> 02:25:23,680
If you'd like to make a comment on our ordinance 119 E, please speak now or for our

1712
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:27,860
hold your piece if you're online. You can go ahead and send a message to

1713
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:31,260
to our host in the chat feature.

1714
02:25:34,580 --> 02:25:35,820
Let's see if there's any makeup in on.

1715
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,740
I'm sure I don't have any notes saying the chat's off. I don't see any. Okay,

1716
02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:44,320
so we have a little bit of trouble from that earlier. All right, now so not hearing any public

1717
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:51,120
comment, we'll go to a vote. So those in favor of approving ordinance 119E, please say aye.

1718
02:25:51,560 --> 02:25:52,280
Aye, aye.

1719
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:54,020
All right. That's six hands.

1720
02:25:54,360 --> 02:25:55,320
Any opposed?

1721
02:25:56,180 --> 02:25:58,300
Hearing any motion passes six zero.

1722
02:25:58,440 --> 02:25:59,140
Thanks, everybody.

1723
02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:02,580
We don't have any emergency ordinances.

1724
02:26:03,020 --> 02:26:05,660
Introduction upcoming agenda items.

1725
02:26:06,040 --> 02:26:07,240
There was to hear.

1726
02:26:07,420 --> 02:26:09,060
Took note of a couple things here.

1727
02:26:09,060 --> 02:26:16,780
to possible town hall for garbage service. I'm not just going to say waste management, just garbage

1728
02:26:16,780 --> 02:26:24,480
service general. Carbon fuel workshop for potential resolution, organize that with pros and cons,

1729
02:26:24,640 --> 02:26:31,460
so we can bring that back. Is there anything else that we want to add to the advanced agenda?

1730
02:26:31,460 --> 02:26:37,790
It's looking around, not seeing anybody. Okay, that makes that easy.

1731
02:26:38,650 --> 02:26:44,150
Um, so next we're back to citizen comments. So once again, opportunities out there.

1732
02:26:44,210 --> 02:26:46,710
If there's anybody in chambers, you want to make a citizen comment.

1733
02:26:46,790 --> 02:26:50,310
Please spot one of our yellow sheets or raise your hand and we'll follow up with that.

1734
02:26:50,410 --> 02:26:52,890
Or if there's somebody on it, you know, to come back for another comment.

1735
02:26:53,630 --> 02:26:53,710
Okay.

1736
02:26:56,120 --> 02:26:58,200
Once again, my name's Thomas McLaughlin.

1737
02:26:58,940 --> 02:27:03,320
I think Trailhead is quite a place for real growth.

1738
02:27:04,180 --> 02:27:06,600
I know myself could go out and play golf.

1739
02:27:07,300 --> 02:27:11,700
I'll be playing nine holes rather than 18 holes when you're 80 years old.

1740
02:27:12,860 --> 02:27:15,480
And so I see a lot of growth.

1741
02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:19,120
By nephew, he belongs to Mount of Country Club.

1742
02:27:20,260 --> 02:27:23,700
He raises three sons and he only has time for nine holes.

1743
02:27:24,440 --> 02:27:26,760
So I think once you get that restaurant in there,

1744
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:28,520
I think you're going to see real growth.

1745
02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:29,520
Yeah.

1746
02:27:29,660 --> 02:27:30,120
Thank you.

1747
02:27:30,320 --> 02:27:31,220
Appreciate you being here.

1748
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:33,740
Do we have anybody online who would like to comment?

1749
02:27:37,290 --> 02:27:37,390
Nope.

1750
02:27:37,770 --> 02:27:37,950
Okay.

1751
02:27:38,630 --> 02:27:38,970
All right.

1752
02:27:39,130 --> 02:27:41,170
Hearing and no further citizen comments.

1753
02:27:41,870 --> 02:27:43,450
We don't have an executive session.

1754
02:27:43,810 --> 02:27:45,310
So unless there's any further business,

1755
02:27:45,430 --> 02:27:47,010
to be brought forth for the council.

1756
02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:48,590
Hearing any?

1757
02:27:48,690 --> 02:27:49,810
We will go ahead and adjourn.

1758
02:27:49,970 --> 02:27:50,830
Thanks for coming everybody.