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[Captioner present]

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>> Everybody ready?

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,

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welcome to the greatest show on Earth.

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The lighthouse point regular city commission meeting

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of August 11th, 2026.

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Mayor, Please do the invocation.

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>> Please bow your head.

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Heavenly father as we gather here this evening

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to transact the business of the city, we ask for your guidance

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so that our actions reflect what is

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best for our entire community.

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Help us to keep an open mind so we can listen to others in order

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to make informed decisions on the matters before us.

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Please remind us to be honest and fair.

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We ask that you can show your wisdom, strength

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and grace on our city officials, staff members and residents

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who work together for the people of West Point.

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We ask you to remind us to treat everyone

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with dignity respect and patience and justice.

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We ask for your protection and guidance for our country

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and the citizens of Lighthouse Point.

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In your name we pray.

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Amen.

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>> We're going to call the meeting to order and say

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the Pledge of Allegiance.

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>>I pledge allegiance the flag of the States of America

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and the Republic for it stands, one nation God, indivisible,

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with liberty justice for all.

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>> Good job.

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Madam clerk, roll call, please.

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[Roll call]

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>> Thank you, everybody.

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We Have several presentations and proclamations.

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We're going to start with the Library Summer Readers.

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>> These were some of the kids that participated in the library

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summer readings.

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Last Year we had 70 kids.

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This year we had 110.

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Last year They read 702 books.

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This year they read 1542.

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[Applause] You're going to notice

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there's a few people that have stuffies.

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They were our top readers.

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[Applause]

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>> And all of the kids look at that camera right there.

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>> I'll just say one quick thing here.

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I want to congratulate you guys on an amazing job of reading.

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I'll tell you that it takes commitment.

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We're so fortunate here at the city of Lighthouse Point

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to have our own city library and have our own children reading.

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I really want to thank all of the staff.

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[Applause] Congratulations.

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Thank you, parents!

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>> Thank you to the library who sponsored all of the dinosaur

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toys.

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[Ambient conversation]

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>> Good job, boys and girls.

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We're going to move on to the recognition of the girls

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baseball MVP, which is Lexssa Link and Parker Van Buskirk.

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>> Good evening, commissioners.

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Just to give you a little background.

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We unfortunately were not able to get an older division

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for a girls softball this year.

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We just didn't have enough players in either.

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We had two girls that decided they

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were going to step up and be part of the baseball

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team for this year.

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We did not want to go with them unnoticed.

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So We have Parker Van Buskirk and Lexssa Link.

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I really enjoyed coaching Alexa and Parker this year.

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They were both so much fun to coach.

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They listened, competed and were absolutely fearless

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on the field.

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One of my favorite parts was watching

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them play along the boys and chuckling

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when they outplayed them.

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We all know that stepping up onto the field

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with a bunch of boys takes a little extra courage,

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and they sure showed it.

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In other words it didn't just play baseball with us this year,

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they made the team better.

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They set a standard for how the game should

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be played with heart, toughness and no excuses.

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Thank you both for being an awesome-- having

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an awesome season.

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It was a pleasure having you both on the team.

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I'm excited to see what the future holds for you both.

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Best of luck.

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Keep playing with the same heart and confidence.

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>> I'll pretend like I'm handing it out to you guys.

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I think it's important-- we didn't have enough girls

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for our older girls softball--

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Which is unfortunate.

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As you go about your travels and you

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hear someone that wants to play, please send them our way.

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We would definitely love to have a league this year.

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Without further ado, and what you forgot to mention

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is that I got to be their coach. (Indiscernible)--

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they are not only good athletes, but good teammates.

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They don't take any kind of crap from any of the boys over there.

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Can I look at it this way.

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When it came down to it in the championship game

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This last year, the people that came over

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with the biggest hits on our team

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were those two girls.-- more importantly their attitude

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with their teammates.

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A leader is the most important part

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of what we try to do here in-- they build young men

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and women into the future.

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Parker, Lexssa, Congratulations.

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It was awesome coaching both of you.

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I love you both.

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Thank you very much.

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[Applause]

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>> Do you guys want to say anything?

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>> We'll miss you.

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We're looking forward to seeing what your future holds.

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Not only on the field but off the field.

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>> Moving on.

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It's also going to recognize the Cooperstown semifinalists, LHP

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Mariners.

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>> Ask these guys are falling in, we're really proud that

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we've been able to select a team to go.

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We have an anonymous donor that sponsors this team

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to go up from Miles point.

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This is our third year in a row.

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When we were thinking about a coach,

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I had to think about my childhood friend, Danny

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Horkheimer, to step up to the plate.

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His dad was my softball coach.

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And I used him often.

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And when I speak to my coaches every season

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saying that I remember his dad being

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out there with a smile on his face, always

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a positive attitude, laughing and joking around with the kids.

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I still remember that to this day.

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I just love to see that we had Danny

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out there being a representation because I know

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he would do an amazing job.

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I'm going to give him the mic to talk about these boys.

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>> On behalf of LHP Mariners team, as coaches,

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the awesome families they're.

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Thank you so much to Steve Liles point, the donors and everybody.

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We appreciate these boys.

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It's the ultimate dream to go to the Mecca of baseball,

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Cooperstown, all star village.

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These 12 young men, you get the opportunity for them to do it.

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And we had the time of our lives.

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A few things real quick.

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The success of our team wasn't just about individuals.

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We had one player hit a walk off grand slam to win the game.

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We had one player that hit eight home runs in nine games.

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One player got a line drive, one hopper

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and threw him out from center field.

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Another player had two diving catches

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in one inning in the outfield.

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One got knocked over a second -- double plays.

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This guys was a trooper catching the ball.

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We may or may not have had a player--

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for everybody did their job.

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It was awesome.

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So proud of them.

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The families, grandparents and siblings, you all

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brought the-- give your parents a round of applause.

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[Applause] I was blessed with having these three

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guys to help coach the team.

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I couldn't have done it without you guys.

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Just awesome.

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Thank you so much.

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It was a team effort, and we couldn't

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have done it without you three helping me out.

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Real quick.

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There's 12 fields.

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There's a little bit of downtime.

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While we're doing that downtime is watching the games.

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What we do is have a person on our team

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who plays the Michael Jackson music real loud.

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These guys will never forget.

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There was 94 teams total.

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We actually play Team Australia.

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How cool was that?

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We beat them.

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We had so much fun .

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That's pretty impressive.

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[Applause] As a token of our appreciation,

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we want to give this awesome parks and recreation

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director, Becky Ward.

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She is the best.

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Love her so much.

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I've known her since I was this tall.

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You've done a great job.

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Thank you so much for allowing us to play

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and us coaches to do this.

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We're going to give you a little token of appreciation here.

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That's our team photo.

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Last thing is we have all of our players,

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and we have our team pins.

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Can everybody give the commissioners, the mayors

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and the staff here a team pin?

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Thank you so much.

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I appreciate it.

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What do you guys say?

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>> (Indiscernible) I definitely want to thank the four of you

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for putting this together.

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And like I said before, we are super fortunate that they've

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donated it again for next year.

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[Applause] Thanks a lot, guys!

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Let's get a good picture.

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Come on up front, please.

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>> One last time.

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>> Moving on to recognition of police officer Bob Stebbins

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for 20 years of service.

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[Applause] First, this is Bob.

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And more importantly, I tell everybody 20 years

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is an accomplishment in one place.

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In today's world and the police department,

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it's really a lifetime.

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Here in Lighthouse point, you have amazing residents

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that truly respect and care and love the police department.

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More importantly, it's tough to guard every day.

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You don't know what the situation holds in front of you.

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You don't know what you're going to encounter.

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You don't know how to take certain things that

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happen when residents are upset or not upset.

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And I have known Bob for over ten years now.

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I continuously see him with a smile on his face.

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Big arms and a nice, firm handshake.

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Him and I both had the same injury at the same time.

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He had his shoulder-- but more importantly

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he has a passion for the job.

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He has a passion for lighthouse point.

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And it shows throughout every day.

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20 years is an amazing accomplishment.

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I'm gonna take it over to Jack.

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You continue to exemplify what the men and women of Lighthouse

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Point represent --

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>> Mayor, and I echo everything you just said.

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Bob is the type of officer you want to come to your house

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if you have a problem.

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He is an informal leader.

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He has probably the best communication

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skills of many officers.

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He just knows how to speak to people and calm the situation.

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De-escalate the situation.

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He's a mentor to new officers on how to communicate properly

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with individuals.

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I'm so proud to have Bob with our team.

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Congratulations!

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[Applause]

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>> All right, last but certainly not least,

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I'd like To invite Marty Kiar, Broward County property

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appraiser.

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>> I'd really appreciate it.

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I love this city.

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It has been the happiest 20 minutes I've had all day.

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It's pretty fantastic.

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And I have to tell you, every single person I've ever

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met that works for the city has always

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had a smile on their face.

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They're so nice and so friendly.

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They're so happy.

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I think it's a testament to the great work

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that this city does for the people of this community.

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I also want to thank you all for your great service.

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Lighthouse point is awesome.

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I was just telling Abby this or somebody

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that I never met somebody at Lighthouse Point that dislikes

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living in Lighthouse Point.

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I actually -- I wanted to quickly give you an update

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as to where Lighthouse Point is right now when it comes

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to your property values, and also with regard to what

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it's doing when it comes to your property.

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So to give you an idea if you took

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all the commercial and residential property right now

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in Lighthouse Point and if you sold it in the open market

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last year you ever got it right about $6.5 billion.

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That's a pretty big number.

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Fast forward one year, there's been

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a 1.3 increase in its market value

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to right about $6.6 billion.

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The more important number, the taxable value

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that's the value that you're going to be utilizing.

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You're going to set your -- in 2025,

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the taxable value was about $4.069 billion.

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Fast forward one year, there's been a 6.1% increase

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in taxable value right about to $4.317 billion

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and to put that in perspective, if you keep your millage rate,

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which last year was 4.4207, I think

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that's your proposed millage rate for this year,

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you'll get an additional $1.09 million

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more this year than last year.

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And that's really not being paid for by the majority

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of your homes --

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you just put a good amount of new taxable value

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on the tax roll that's actually bringing

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in that additional revenue.

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There are 34,545 homesteaders of properties here in Lighthouse

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Point.

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You have 239 seniors who receive a pretty significant reduction

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for being low income seniors.

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They have 15 long term, low income seniors

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that pay no property taxes to the city of Lighthouse

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Point or the County Commission.

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You have 366 widowers who live here on Lighthouse Point.

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You also have 42 American heroes totally permanently disabled

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veterans that made Lighthouse Point -- and they paid no taxes.

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And you actually have one totally

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permanently disabled first responder who

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pays no property taxes as well.

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A couple of other interesting numbers.

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If the average sale price for a single family home right now

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in Lighthouse Point is about $2,095,000,

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that's a pretty significant number.

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The median is a little bit less.

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It's about $1.3 million.

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What's interesting about that is the median taxable value is

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about $660,000, which is much less than the median sale price.

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They love lighthouse and they never want to leave.

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And the last is you have a significant amount

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of condominium parcels here in Lighthouse Point.

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The average sale price is about $254,000.

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Very similar to what it was last year.

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The average taxable value is right around $133,000.

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They come here and they're protected by the home assessment

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clause.

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The value doesn't go up a whole lot.

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What I really came to talk about was something

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that was very important.

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This is what you all asked me to speak about.

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And I very much appreciate it, which

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is really about them text amendment

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for the people of the state of Florida to vote for or against.

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For the residents, how it impacts Lighthouse Point

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and Broward County, let me just let people know how we got here.

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You may recall more than a year ago

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some random person from North Florida got very upset

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about the property taxes.

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They basically tweeted property taxes are horrific.

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We gotta get rid of them.

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And it just so happens that governor Desantis saw that tweet

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and retweeted it.

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And when the governor retweets something--

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They decided to do a study and they

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said if you get rid of all property

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taxes, what does that mean for the state of Florida?

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Everything.

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It'll about to $60 billion of local government,

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and that money funds things like police, fires, schools,

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roads bridges, parks libraries, other things

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that we know locally.

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And if you're going to take 55 to $60 billion

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away that's one of those things, we still need those things.

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How do you replace the money?

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And they said you have to have an income tax, which

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thank God we'll never have.

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Or you have to increase the sales tax up

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to 12%, possibly 13 or 15%.

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In South Florida we have a higher cost of living.

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And what they decided to do was pull the likely voters

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to Florida.

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And when it comes to property taxes,

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the Constitution needs to be amended.

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And to be amended more than 60% of the people voting

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have to be in favor of it and that's the new law.

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They basically said, would you support

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getting rid of all property taxes

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and increasing the sales tax to the amount

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that I just mentioned?

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And overwhelming, the people of Florida said it was a bad idea.

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About 70% of the people said it was a bad idea.

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All political parties said it was a bad idea.

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When that happened, the conversation

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changed a little bit from eliminating all property taxes

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to focusing on homestead property taxes only.

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And as you know from June one to June 3rd,

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the Florida Legislature met in a special session where they

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placed the proposed amendment on the ballot in November

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for the people to vote for or against.

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And here's what the amendment doesn't do.

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It doesn't apply to schools.

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And so no matter what, people will always

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pay property taxes to schools.

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The second thing it doesn't do is

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it doesn't hold public safety harmless.

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And what that means is if local government is impacted

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negatively by this amendment, nothing

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is safe from being cut here's what it does.

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What it does is it basically says in order to qualify,

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you have to be a resident of Florida by January 1st 2027.

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If not you have to wait five years, and during that time

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you'll be under the current existing homestead exemption.

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It also says if you're a resident of Broward County

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or Lighthouse Point or the state of Florida,

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on January 1st of 2027, you'll get $150,000 exemption.

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What that really means is right now the homestead exemption

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is 5000.

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What this really does is increase to 250,000.

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It then says in 2028, that $150,000 exemption will then get

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raised from 150 to a $250,000 exemption to be applied to all

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taxing authorities, and then it basically gets a little bit

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vague.

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Where it basically says the legislature may possibly,

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it could if it wants ultimately do a schedule

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to eliminate all homesteaded property

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taxes except for the school portion of the tax bill.

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What I wanted to do was take the boarding of the amendment

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and apply it to the 2025 tax year.

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And I used that year because that was the year that we had

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all of the military -- we had all the values and we knew

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exactly how much money every taxing authority in Broward

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County took in, and we also know what the savings would have been

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for the property owner and the physical impacts each of those

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taxing authorities.

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That's what I have here.

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What I was hoping to do is start with this one.

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So this deals with the Broward County Commission.

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As you can see, if a person-- there were 424,899 homestead

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of parcels.

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If this was in effect, if everybody had hundred

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and $50,000 homestead exemption on the property.

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The average savings countywide Would be right around 1,104. --

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you do have $150,000 of value that you pay taxes on.

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You would save right around $1,325.

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The county's commission itself in 2025

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levied about $1.8 billion in property taxes.

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If this was in effect they would have levied about $1.6 billion.

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So about $150 million less than what they.

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It would have been about 10.8% difference.

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Lighthouse point so far at the beginning

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it's going to be affected a little less

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than the counties as a whole because the homes here

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are valued higher than the county on average.

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As you can see, with a 150,000 homestead exemption,

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Lighthouse Point is 3591 homesteads of parcels.

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If this was in effect, the average savings were property --

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if you would do that, you would save around --

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if this was in effect, you would have levied about $17.6 million.

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About $1.4 million less than what you levied.

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It's about a 7.7% decrease.

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And what I would like to do is on each one of these increases,

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I'd like to highlight a couple of cities.

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Cities that are always in contrast to each other, higher

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value properties, they are a little bit

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different than cities with almost all homestead

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and no commercial.

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In this situation, the two cities

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that are in contrast to each other

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is Pembroke Park and Tamarac.

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Pembroke Park is barely ever impacted.

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It's basically a mobile home community

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with very few homesteaded properties.

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As you can see with $150,000 exemption,

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they will lose right around 0.9% of what they collect in property

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taxes.

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That's a negligible amount that they can easily make up.

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Tamarack has a lot of homesteaded properties,

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not a whole lot of commercial properties.

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They will lose about 22.3% of what they

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collected in property taxes.

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The next thing I wanted to bring up is what happens in 2028?

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Now in 2028 that 150,000 homestead exemption gets raised

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to hundred and $50,000 to be applied to all taxing

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authorities by the--

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Broward County is 424,899 homestead of parcels.

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If this was in effect, the average savings

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per property owner would be 1879 because not everybody has--

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the County Commission levied about $1.8 billion

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in property taxes.

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If this was in effect they would have levied about $1.47 billion.

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About $330 million less than what they levied.

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So they would have left about an 18.5% decrease.

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Lighthouse point isn't impacted as great because you

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have much more value here in your homes overall,

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and the county does on average the attack.

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So in Lighthouse point, you have 3591 homesteads at parcels.

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If it was in effect, the average Savings

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would be-- if this was in effect,

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you would have levied about $16.3 million.

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About $2.7 million less than what you levied.

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It's a 14.3% decrease.

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The two cities that are in contrast

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to each other a city in Pembroke Park.

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I think I saw the mayor who's right over there,

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and Pembroke Park is barely impacted.

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Pembroke Park would lose about 1.2%

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of what he collected in property taxes.

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Cooper City which has a whole lot of homesteaded properties

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and not a lot of commercial will lose about 34.5%

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of what it collected in property taxes.

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The last one I wanted to bring up before --

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what may possibly happen.

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I may -- the language is a little bit vague about

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what's going to occur.

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It basically says that after --

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>> Some would say the Constitution is vague.

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>> You are 100% right.

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This is where it gets vague in the language.

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It basically says that after the $250,000 exemption,

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the legislature may possibly do some type of schedule

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to potentially eliminate all homestead property taxes,

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except for the school portion of the tax bill.

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And this is one where Lighthouse Point really is impacted.

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Let me explain.

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Before we go there, Broward County Commission is 424,899

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homestead properties.

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If all property taxes were eliminated

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for taxing authorities for the school board,

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the average would be 348 the County Commission levied--

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about $636 million less than what they levied.

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So it would Be about a 35.3% decrease.

521
00:39:19,216 --> 00:39:21,513
The reason why Lighthouse Point is really impacted

522
00:39:21,513 --> 00:39:22,288
is because you have high value properties where people

523
00:39:22,288 --> 00:39:24,945
pay a lot of money in their property taxes

524
00:39:24,945 --> 00:39:27,217
on their assessed value.

525
00:39:27,217 --> 00:39:30,217
There are 3591 homestead properties here

526
00:39:31,113 --> 00:39:32,157
in Lighthouse Point.

527
00:39:32,157 --> 00:39:33,947
The average savings is pretty large.

528
00:39:33,947 --> 00:39:39,950
It's about $8,327, but as you can see, if this was in effect,

529
00:39:39,950 --> 00:39:42,950
lighthouse point would have led--

530
00:39:49,945 --> 00:39:54,145
to about $11.2 million less-- if it's okay,

531
00:39:57,576 --> 00:40:00,670
the two cities that are very much in stark districts--

532
00:40:00,670 --> 00:40:03,700
Pembroke Park and Parkland.

533
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,965
Which is a pure bedroom community, all homesteaded,

534
00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:09,145
will lose about 75.5% of what it collected in Texas.

535
00:40:09,145 --> 00:40:10,845
But I do think it's important to note

536
00:40:10,845 --> 00:40:13,465
is you know what your public safety budget is.

537
00:40:13,465 --> 00:40:14,969
Parkland is about 55%.

538
00:40:14,969 --> 00:40:17,105
You lose 75% of what you collect,

539
00:40:17,105 --> 00:40:19,385
you still owe 55% for that.

540
00:40:19,385 --> 00:40:20,479
The math is kind of weird.

541
00:40:20,479 --> 00:40:22,271
That's where something would have to occur.

542
00:40:22,271 --> 00:40:24,305
The last part that I wanted to talk about

543
00:40:24,305 --> 00:40:27,958
before I answer any questions is what's

544
00:40:27,958 --> 00:40:29,838
not getting a whole lot of coverage

545
00:40:29,838 --> 00:40:31,494
but it's still part of the amendment.

546
00:40:31,494 --> 00:40:32,885
Because even though most people are focusing

547
00:40:32,885 --> 00:40:35,561
on the homesteaded portion of it, and so is the news media,

548
00:40:35,561 --> 00:40:37,905
there's also a portion for non-homestead properties.

549
00:40:37,905 --> 00:40:42,705
So currently under Florida law, all Non-homestead properties

550
00:40:48,347 --> 00:40:49,764
cannot go up more than 10% a year,

551
00:40:49,764 --> 00:40:49,773
except for the school portion of the tax bill.

552
00:40:49,773 --> 00:40:51,606
Even if your market value goes up 50 or 60%,

553
00:40:51,606 --> 00:40:55,985
the value tax sign -- this would drop the 10% cap to 5% that

554
00:40:55,985 --> 00:40:58,782
basically sets the value cannot go more than 5%,

555
00:40:58,782 --> 00:41:01,450
except for the school portion of the tax bill.

556
00:41:01,450 --> 00:41:04,645
Countywide, there are 298,191 non homesteaded parcels

557
00:41:05,341 --> 00:41:07,900
in the county.

558
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,585
Those are all commercial residential

559
00:41:09,585 --> 00:41:11,535
that's not homesteaded.

560
00:41:11,535 --> 00:41:15,265
The county commission collected about $1.8 billion in taxes.

561
00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:16,840
If this was in effect, they would

562
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,761
have collected about $1.777 billion in taxes,

563
00:41:19,761 --> 00:41:24,285
about $26 million less than what they collected about at 1.5%

564
00:41:24,285 --> 00:41:25,450
decrease.

565
00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:28,990
Lighthouse Point is not impacted as great as the county.

566
00:41:28,990 --> 00:41:32,590
Lighthouse Point would have lost about $187,000,

567
00:41:33,465 --> 00:41:35,330
about a 1% decrease.

568
00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:36,848
That's the full amendment that's actually

569
00:41:36,848 --> 00:41:37,931
going to be on the ballot.

570
00:41:37,931 --> 00:41:41,169
And its impact on the county and Lighthouse point.

571
00:41:41,169 --> 00:41:43,547
I want to thank you all for giving me the opportunity

572
00:41:43,547 --> 00:41:45,505
to speak about it because what I've been doing,

573
00:41:45,505 --> 00:41:46,761
I'll be honest with you.

574
00:41:46,761 --> 00:41:48,825
I haven't taken a public position on.

575
00:41:48,825 --> 00:41:50,433
The reason being is because I do feel

576
00:41:50,433 --> 00:41:52,225
like I'm the guy that just has the numbers.

577
00:41:52,225 --> 00:41:54,433
And I think it's important to provide all the numbers

578
00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:56,902
to the people on Broward County so they can make the best

579
00:41:56,902 --> 00:41:59,350
vote possible, both the savings for property owner

580
00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,558
and the fiscal impact to all of the government, which

581
00:42:01,558 --> 00:42:02,865
is exceptionally important.

582
00:42:02,865 --> 00:42:07,665
With that said, if you have any questions,

583
00:42:08,393 --> 00:42:11,318
it would be my pleasure if I sound a little tired,

584
00:42:11,318 --> 00:42:12,318
I'm so sorry.

585
00:42:12,318 --> 00:42:15,425
I had about five cups of coffee about three hours ago

586
00:42:15,425 --> 00:42:16,981
and I'm starting to come down from.

587
00:42:16,981 --> 00:42:19,650
I appreciate you all having me here.

588
00:42:19,650 --> 00:42:22,331
And I really do appreciate the great work that you do.

589
00:42:22,331 --> 00:42:26,673
I was telling Abby, one of my best friends at one point

590
00:42:26,673 --> 00:42:30,833
was the finance director for Lighthouse Point.

591
00:42:30,833 --> 00:42:33,665
So he would give me a really good insight

592
00:42:33,665 --> 00:42:36,585
into the inner workings of Lighthouse Point.

593
00:42:36,585 --> 00:42:38,668
And I have to tell you that the way he would speak

594
00:42:38,668 --> 00:42:41,325
about your staff, the work that you do, I actually

595
00:42:41,325 --> 00:42:44,658
believe this is one of the best run of all of our 31 cities.

596
00:42:44,658 --> 00:42:46,985
Don't tell the other 30 cities I said that.

597
00:42:46,985 --> 00:42:48,420
It is so well done.

598
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:49,665
I very much appreciate it.

599
00:42:49,665 --> 00:42:51,665
>> Any questions?

600
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,872
>> The drop from 10 to 5, that's all Non-homestead --

601
00:43:07,712 --> 00:43:09,712
that's commercial and Non-homestead residential?

602
00:43:09,712 --> 00:43:09,717
>> Everything that's not exempt.

603
00:43:09,717 --> 00:43:09,725
They would all be residential that's not homesteaded

604
00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:09,907
and all commercial as well.

605
00:43:09,907 --> 00:43:12,737
The only ones that wouldn't apply to, except properties

606
00:43:12,737 --> 00:43:16,337
and things of that nature. --

607
00:43:23,886 --> 00:43:25,886
Churches, exempt properties.

608
00:43:29,289 --> 00:43:30,727
>> Do you have any insight?

609
00:43:30,727 --> 00:43:33,185
Still see dropping it from 10 to 5, it reduces the revenue.

610
00:43:33,185 --> 00:43:34,745
It just won't be as dramatic.

611
00:43:34,745 --> 00:43:36,745
>> You're 100% right.

612
00:43:41,533 --> 00:43:43,590
With regard to the current 10% cap and 5% cap,

613
00:43:43,590 --> 00:43:45,340
more money is still going to be coming in,

614
00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:47,500
just not as good as it would have been.

615
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:51,205
It's going to be very interesting let's

616
00:43:55,947 --> 00:43:58,332
see what happens in November.

617
00:43:58,332 --> 00:44:00,790
The one thing I do tell people, which I think is important,

618
00:44:00,790 --> 00:44:04,925
amending the Constitution is a very big deal.

619
00:44:04,925 --> 00:44:07,907
Personally, if somebody in public office that you think

620
00:44:07,907 --> 00:44:09,324
may not be doing the greatest job,

621
00:44:09,324 --> 00:44:09,332
you could put somebody else in that office.

622
00:44:09,332 --> 00:44:11,332
You amend the Constitution there for perpetuity,

623
00:44:11,332 --> 00:44:13,805
and that's why it's a very hard thing to do.

624
00:44:13,805 --> 00:44:16,837
I'm hoping that every single resident in the state of Florida

625
00:44:16,837 --> 00:44:18,545
that's likely to vote does their research

626
00:44:18,545 --> 00:44:19,878
and votes the best way possible.

627
00:44:19,878 --> 00:44:21,485
The only thing I've learned as well

628
00:44:21,485 --> 00:44:25,685
is not a partisan issue at all.

629
00:44:31,374 --> 00:44:33,633
I've talked to Democrats Republicans and people

630
00:44:33,633 --> 00:44:33,644
on all sides, and it's going to be a very interesting.

631
00:44:33,644 --> 00:44:34,585
I think it's more just an individual vote as to what

632
00:44:34,585 --> 00:44:35,907
people think is best for them.

633
00:44:35,907 --> 00:44:38,310
Just one of the things if it's okay,

634
00:44:38,310 --> 00:44:40,185
and it's been tried in other places.

635
00:44:40,185 --> 00:44:42,945
And I think it's fascinating it shows it's not partisan.

636
00:44:42,945 --> 00:44:45,805
North Dakota actually tried to eliminate all property taxes

637
00:44:45,805 --> 00:44:46,851
in 2024.

638
00:44:46,851 --> 00:44:50,217
North Dakota is a pretty red place.

639
00:44:50,217 --> 00:44:52,250
It's even redder than Florida.

640
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:55,418
I think Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris by about 34 points

641
00:44:55,418 --> 00:44:56,325
in North Dakota.

642
00:44:56,325 --> 00:44:59,985
At the same time, the amendment to eliminate all property taxes

643
00:44:59,985 --> 00:45:03,269
only received about 35, 36% of the vote.

644
00:45:03,269 --> 00:45:06,385
I think it's going to be a very interesting vote,

645
00:45:06,385 --> 00:45:08,113
it's an individual.

646
00:45:08,113 --> 00:45:11,713
Thank you for having me today.

647
00:45:17,476 --> 00:45:18,829
Anything I can ever do.

648
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:19,537
Just let me know.

649
00:45:19,537 --> 00:45:23,137
>> Do any residents have any questions?

650
00:45:26,399 --> 00:45:32,999
can you come down to give your name for the record?

651
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,631
>> I want to tell you this is awesome.

652
00:45:37,631 --> 00:45:37,643
Very few places I've ever been to in the City Commission where

653
00:45:37,643 --> 00:45:37,897
the commission actually says, would the residents

654
00:45:37,897 --> 00:45:38,881
like to ask a question.

655
00:45:38,881 --> 00:45:40,265
That is fantastic.

656
00:45:40,265 --> 00:45:44,465
>> Bob Clampett, resident of Lighthouse Point since 2018

657
00:45:53,744 --> 00:45:55,619
and Broward County property owner since 1971.

658
00:45:55,619 --> 00:45:55,623
A couple of questions.

659
00:45:55,623 --> 00:45:57,706
The young people in Broward are having a hard time

660
00:45:57,706 --> 00:45:59,310
affording to buy a house.

661
00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:01,889
Are there any local or state initiatives that

662
00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:06,545
are in the hopper that you know of that

663
00:46:06,545 --> 00:46:12,545
might be able to give these young people a break?

664
00:46:15,331 --> 00:46:17,539
Because once you put insurance and the property taxes

665
00:46:17,539 --> 00:46:22,339
onto a mortgage, a lot of these people

666
00:46:22,853 --> 00:46:24,478
can't even qualify that normally would.

667
00:46:24,478 --> 00:46:28,265
That's a long term resident, somebody that grew up here,

668
00:46:28,265 --> 00:46:32,674
what are you doing, what is the state doing, what

669
00:46:32,674 --> 00:46:34,841
is the county commission doing to help these people?

670
00:46:34,841 --> 00:46:37,841
>> That's such a great question.

671
00:46:39,563 --> 00:46:40,313
Thank you so much.

672
00:46:40,313 --> 00:46:40,321
It's something I worry about all the time.

673
00:46:40,321 --> 00:46:41,196
I have two daughters.

674
00:46:41,196 --> 00:46:43,196
They are 17 and 14 .

675
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:50,450
I love them so much.

676
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:54,638
And one thing I worry about is when

677
00:46:54,638 --> 00:46:54,645
they're ready to buy a home, they

678
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,937
won't be able to afford a home, and they're gonna move.

679
00:46:56,937 --> 00:47:01,137
That is a very cost prohibitive place--

680
00:47:02,310 --> 00:47:05,673
that is one area where I think people do need tax relief.

681
00:47:05,673 --> 00:47:07,423
Because you've been a long term profiteer,

682
00:47:07,423 --> 00:47:14,623
and you've bought a home in 2016, as soon as you buy your--

683
00:47:18,443 --> 00:47:19,568
the taxes are astronomical.

684
00:47:19,568 --> 00:47:21,110
Unfortunately right now, there really

685
00:47:21,110 --> 00:47:23,145
isn't anything you can do in the Florida law.

686
00:47:23,145 --> 00:47:29,486
What we do is if somebody buys a home, we reach out to them.

687
00:47:29,486 --> 00:47:31,986
We try to make sure they get all the current exemptions that

688
00:47:31,986 --> 00:47:34,378
are there, whether it's a homestead exemption or anything

689
00:47:34,378 --> 00:47:34,878
else.

690
00:47:34,878 --> 00:47:37,225
If they want to sit down and we'll

691
00:47:37,225 --> 00:47:38,837
go through the property with them,

692
00:47:38,837 --> 00:47:40,777
and we'll see if they overpaid or if it's not

693
00:47:40,777 --> 00:47:42,455
reflective with other sales in the area.

694
00:47:42,455 --> 00:47:44,670
Any way we can try to bring it down a little bit.

695
00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:46,733
It is very hard for them.

696
00:47:46,733 --> 00:47:51,650
I do know there are some cities every once in a while that

697
00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:52,505
would have certain incentives.

698
00:47:52,505 --> 00:47:54,585
Usually they can be income based.

699
00:47:54,585 --> 00:47:58,497
There's really not a whole lot available for them.

700
00:47:58,497 --> 00:48:00,897
And I appreciate that.

701
00:48:04,411 --> 00:48:07,619
One thing that I think is important,

702
00:48:07,619 --> 00:48:09,411
whether this passes or not, a lot of people

703
00:48:09,411 --> 00:48:09,420
actually don't know what happens to their property taxes

704
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:09,804
when they buy their home.

705
00:48:09,804 --> 00:48:12,398
Because if somebody bought your home, you've been in your home

706
00:48:12,398 --> 00:48:14,398
for 40 years--

707
00:48:20,142 --> 00:48:21,841
2018.

708
00:48:21,841 --> 00:48:25,246
If somebody bought your home, that first year, they're

709
00:48:25,246 --> 00:48:25,266
gonna get the same text that you're gonna get,

710
00:48:25,266 --> 00:48:26,385
which is probably going to be a very manageable text

711
00:48:26,385 --> 00:48:26,929
but overall.

712
00:48:26,929 --> 00:48:29,478
And what happens is the year after, that's

713
00:48:29,478 --> 00:48:32,785
when they get their new tax bill based on their purchase price.

714
00:48:32,785 --> 00:48:35,505
The one thing we try to do, especially for younger people

715
00:48:35,505 --> 00:48:37,789
is we try to direct them to their tax estimator

716
00:48:37,789 --> 00:48:40,245
so they really understand what's going

717
00:48:40,245 --> 00:48:42,293
to be the tax implications of their property,

718
00:48:42,293 --> 00:48:44,618
so they can really make sure they can afford it.

719
00:48:44,618 --> 00:48:45,701
That was a great question.

720
00:48:45,701 --> 00:48:48,705
I wish I had a better direct answer to you of how

721
00:48:48,705 --> 00:48:50,971
we can help them, but there are very few ways

722
00:48:50,971 --> 00:48:53,971
right now under the law.

723
00:49:00,507 --> 00:49:02,507
Great question.

724
00:49:03,873 --> 00:49:05,873
>> Any other questions?

725
00:49:07,721 --> 00:49:09,853
>> This is like the best ever.

726
00:49:09,853 --> 00:49:11,853
I love this.

727
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:18,725
>> 2015 Northeast 39th Street.

728
00:49:18,725 --> 00:49:21,517
Your projections are based on 2025 property values.

729
00:49:21,517 --> 00:49:24,905
This is not taken to presumption that right now property values

730
00:49:24,905 --> 00:49:30,305
are-- sale prices is more of a buyer's market.

731
00:49:37,797 --> 00:49:39,380
If the amendment were to pass, then we

732
00:49:39,380 --> 00:49:40,922
could assume that property taxes were

733
00:49:40,922 --> 00:49:43,665
to be potentially lower if property sales go down.

734
00:49:43,665 --> 00:49:46,650
Does that make sense?

735
00:49:57,143 --> 00:50:00,152
>> Lisa, you make a very good point.

736
00:50:00,152 --> 00:50:01,944
The one thing that's certain about property

737
00:50:01,944 --> 00:50:01,948
is it's in certain.

738
00:50:01,948 --> 00:50:01,959
And it basically you're the year values go up and down.

739
00:50:01,959 --> 00:50:03,577
And the way that works is January 1st,

740
00:50:03,577 --> 00:50:06,905
what we call our date of assessment,

741
00:50:06,905 --> 00:50:10,201
when you're in November, the tax bill comes out.

742
00:50:10,201 --> 00:50:15,601
It's what-- other times you can have a crash.

743
00:50:19,216 --> 00:50:20,341
It can make it go way down.

744
00:50:20,341 --> 00:50:20,348
This year, for the most part values

745
00:50:20,348 --> 00:50:20,632
are going up for the most part.

746
00:50:20,632 --> 00:50:23,610
Not as dramatically as before, but they're

747
00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:25,587
leveling out a little bit.

748
00:50:25,587 --> 00:50:32,787
But you could have, in 2026 when we look at all the numbers,

749
00:50:33,365 --> 00:50:35,115
because it doesn't take effect until 2027.

750
00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:35,124
And I don't know if this is the case.

751
00:50:35,124 --> 00:50:37,410
Let's say we see a decline in property values.

752
00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:38,185
Then you are right.

753
00:50:38,185 --> 00:50:41,873
Next year will not only be less money coming in because

754
00:50:41,873 --> 00:50:44,351
of the exemption, but the assessed value

755
00:50:44,351 --> 00:50:45,545
could go down as well.

756
00:50:45,545 --> 00:50:46,201
It all depends.

757
00:50:46,201 --> 00:50:47,701
Does that help answer your question?

758
00:50:47,701 --> 00:50:50,101
It's a great question.

759
00:50:50,865 --> 00:50:52,865
>> Any other questions?

760
00:51:02,634 --> 00:51:05,134
>> Mike was Dizzy, president of Lighthouse Point since 1996.

761
00:51:05,134 --> 00:51:05,911
I just want to say thank you very much for being here today.

762
00:51:05,911 --> 00:51:08,809
I will tell you this, very rarely do I

763
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:10,809
write government officials.

764
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,000
[Laughter] It's an inside joke.

765
00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:27,518
But just to let you know that when I have written you,

766
00:51:27,518 --> 00:51:32,250
it's great to know that the service level that both you,

767
00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:34,369
personal emails that you can get from Mardhekar

768
00:51:34,369 --> 00:51:37,601
and also for your, it's been fantastic.

769
00:51:37,601 --> 00:51:39,425
Just keep up the great work.

770
00:51:39,425 --> 00:51:40,925
Just a quick question on protection.

771
00:51:40,925 --> 00:51:43,175
Do you have anything that you could at least enlighten

772
00:51:43,175 --> 00:51:44,505
people on regards to that?

773
00:51:44,505 --> 00:51:48,705
>> That actually makes me feel so good.

774
00:51:51,557 --> 00:51:53,974
A few years ago I wanted to answer 10,000 emails very bad.

775
00:51:53,974 --> 00:51:55,196
On December 31st, I was 9999.

776
00:51:55,196 --> 00:51:59,569
Nobody wanted to email me, so I emailed myself and got the ten

777
00:51:59,569 --> 00:52:00,305
000.

778
00:52:00,305 --> 00:52:04,822
Unfortunately, South Florida is the title Fraud capital

779
00:52:04,822 --> 00:52:05,446
of the world.

780
00:52:05,446 --> 00:52:07,571
It's the capital of the because you have criminals,

781
00:52:07,571 --> 00:52:10,585
and what they do is they walk into a recording divisions,

782
00:52:10,585 --> 00:52:13,638
they file fake deeds on people's properties

783
00:52:13,638 --> 00:52:17,650
and they take those deeds, and they extort people for money.

784
00:52:17,650 --> 00:52:19,385
Well we wanted to do a few years ago was basically

785
00:52:19,385 --> 00:52:22,145
give people the opportunity to be notified if somebody did that

786
00:52:22,145 --> 00:52:22,715
to them.

787
00:52:22,715 --> 00:52:26,415
So we found we did a fantastic thing called owner alert.

788
00:52:26,415 --> 00:52:28,173
It's a notification program that lets

789
00:52:28,173 --> 00:52:30,649
people know if somebody changes the title to the property.

790
00:52:30,649 --> 00:52:32,572
Anybody can sign up, in Lighthouse Point

791
00:52:32,572 --> 00:52:34,905
has been a great partner in helping people sign up here.

792
00:52:34,905 --> 00:52:38,871
If anybody wants to sign up, they go to our website at. .net

793
00:52:38,871 --> 00:52:40,858
they type in their name.

794
00:52:40,858 --> 00:52:42,233
They type in their email address.

795
00:52:42,233 --> 00:52:45,545
And if anybody tries to file a deed in their property,

796
00:52:45,545 --> 00:52:49,145
whether it's legitimate or not, they'll

797
00:52:54,893 --> 00:52:57,370
be notified instantaneously by email, text message.

798
00:52:57,370 --> 00:52:57,420
It's free to the public.

799
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:57,480
All the information we collect is

800
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:57,520
exempt from public disclosure.

801
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,865
We've had almost 380,000 property owners so far.

802
00:52:59,865 --> 00:53:04,665
I believe if I'm remembering, 68% of Lighthouse points

803
00:53:09,453 --> 00:53:11,370
have signed up, which I think is really great.

804
00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:16,170
Along those lines when we started this program,

805
00:53:21,591 --> 00:53:23,924
I started getting emails and phone calls from residents.

806
00:53:23,924 --> 00:53:23,933
And somebody just changed the title to my property,

807
00:53:23,933 --> 00:53:23,938
but I didn't do it.

808
00:53:23,938 --> 00:53:24,460
And I got more and more.

809
00:53:24,460 --> 00:53:25,546
I realized how big of a deal it was.

810
00:53:25,546 --> 00:53:27,185
I came up with the idea.

811
00:53:27,185 --> 00:53:28,747
I wanted to work with law enforcement

812
00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:30,205
and put people in jail who do this.

813
00:53:30,205 --> 00:53:31,805
So I got the approval from the state of Florida

814
00:53:31,805 --> 00:53:34,540
to be able to have what I call crimes against my property to.

815
00:53:34,540 --> 00:53:37,400
We then entered an agreement with the Sheriff's office where

816
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Sheriff -- to Florida Department of--- we also work with FBI

817
00:53:53,610 --> 00:53:54,936
and other police forces throughout the county

818
00:53:54,936 --> 00:53:54,947
and our job is to find people that steal people's properties

819
00:53:54,947 --> 00:53:55,123
and put them in jail.

820
00:53:55,123 --> 00:53:56,545
And we've had more than a thousand

821
00:53:56,545 --> 00:53:57,628
individual criminal cases.

822
00:53:57,628 --> 00:53:59,209
We've had hundreds of convictions.

823
00:53:59,209 --> 00:54:01,730
And we work with the court system

824
00:54:01,730 --> 00:54:03,877
to get properties back to people in a cost efficient manner

825
00:54:03,877 --> 00:54:05,585
and I'll just give you one quick example.

826
00:54:05,585 --> 00:54:10,985
Just to show people what these people will do.

827
00:54:11,385 --> 00:54:16,185
There's one case, which I'm really proud of.

828
00:54:21,759 --> 00:54:24,900
And I'll bring it up because my legal counsel is here.

829
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:24,150
She was my witness in it.

830
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:24,132
That's Mila Schwartz rich.

831
00:54:24,132 --> 00:54:24,579
She's a great lawyer.

832
00:54:24,579 --> 00:54:26,410
There was one case where there was

833
00:54:26,410 --> 00:54:28,801
a man that Stole a senior's home in Limerick.

834
00:54:28,801 --> 00:54:30,693
And you have to understand the people

835
00:54:30,693 --> 00:54:33,151
that they prey upon are usually the most vulnerable people.

836
00:54:33,151 --> 00:54:36,193
Stole the seniors home Stole the seniors life savings.

837
00:54:36,193 --> 00:54:37,419
Did some terrific things.

838
00:54:37,419 --> 00:54:39,790
He decided to go to a.

839
00:54:39,790 --> 00:54:40,945
The jury found him guilty unanimously.

840
00:54:40,945 --> 00:54:47,545
Then he walked up to the judge, who Was Judge Odom.

841
00:54:50,499 --> 00:54:55,686
And he said, when do I come back from my sentencing?

842
00:54:55,686 --> 00:54:57,269
And he said you have about 15 seconds.

843
00:54:57,269 --> 00:54:57,667
And he gave him 15 years.

844
00:54:57,667 --> 00:54:59,289
That's how the sentences are getting.

845
00:54:59,289 --> 00:55:03,945
And I'm happy because they pick on the most vulnerable people.

846
00:55:03,945 --> 00:55:04,681
Typical seniors.

847
00:55:04,681 --> 00:55:06,925
They pick on people with disabilities.

848
00:55:06,925 --> 00:55:11,291
And my goal is to make sure they work hard

849
00:55:11,291 --> 00:55:15,388
and make sure they spend it very long time in prison.

850
00:55:15,388 --> 00:55:18,873
Thank you so much for asking that question and to make

851
00:55:18,873 --> 00:55:23,673
a long winded statement, if anybody in lighthouse--

852
00:55:30,683 --> 00:55:33,378
I also want to thank you all because you allow us

853
00:55:33,378 --> 00:55:33,386
all the time to have our staff here

854
00:55:33,386 --> 00:55:35,719
as well, which has made it so convenient for the public.

855
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,719
>> Fourth Monday.

856
00:55:42,638 --> 00:55:43,690
>> It's so helpful.

857
00:55:43,690 --> 00:55:45,523
I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.

858
00:55:45,523 --> 00:55:45,532
The one thing about my job is you get

859
00:55:45,532 --> 00:55:46,782
to help a whole lot of people.

860
00:55:46,782 --> 00:55:50,420
The most difficult thing is you don't always-- you

861
00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:55,442
get to help everybody you know you can't help.

862
00:55:55,475 --> 00:55:57,933
When a city allows you to be here and have your staff here.

863
00:55:57,933 --> 00:56:01,570
You're actually helping me reach people

864
00:56:01,570 --> 00:56:02,224
I can't reach out on my own.

865
00:56:02,224 --> 00:56:04,570
So I want to thank you all so much for that.

866
00:56:04,570 --> 00:56:06,570
>> Any other questions?

867
00:56:18,225 --> 00:56:20,456
>> Shelly Campbell, 1920 Northeast 29th Street pier

868
00:56:20,456 --> 00:56:21,956
my question is for the Commissioner.

869
00:56:21,956 --> 00:56:21,967
What is the city's plan to offset the shortfall in revenue

870
00:56:21,967 --> 00:56:23,825
of this amendment passes?

871
00:56:23,825 --> 00:56:27,545
What is the city going to do to maintain that?

872
00:56:27,545 --> 00:56:30,545
>> I will start with this.

873
00:56:36,193 --> 00:56:37,640
I will echo what Marty says.

874
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:37,651
The fact that we have run a very conservative fiscal city

875
00:56:37,651 --> 00:56:39,134
since we've been in existence.

876
00:56:39,134 --> 00:56:43,410
And we continuously have the best staff

877
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:46,905
and we stay competitive at the highest

878
00:56:46,905 --> 00:56:49,598
round we don't have first time home buyer exemptions

879
00:56:49,598 --> 00:56:51,958
and we don't have a lot of these things.

880
00:56:51,958 --> 00:56:53,565
We don't give out money to charities

881
00:56:53,565 --> 00:56:55,217
and we do very little of that stuff.

882
00:56:55,217 --> 00:57:01,217
With that being said over the last couple of years,

883
00:57:07,392 --> 00:57:09,684
we have taken the money in the revenue that's increased

884
00:57:09,684 --> 00:57:09,694
and we have really dumped it back in our infrastructure.

885
00:57:09,694 --> 00:57:10,223
As we continuously dump it back in our infrastructure,

886
00:57:10,223 --> 00:57:12,370
I tell people all the time that the cost of living

887
00:57:12,370 --> 00:57:18,970
may be 3 or 4% and the tax revenue is definitely coming in.

888
00:57:27,238 --> 00:57:30,750
The projects that we're doing have gone up year

889
00:57:30,750 --> 00:57:32,505
over year, 25%.

890
00:57:32,505 --> 00:57:37,305
Well we built the bridge Four in 2022. $3.9 million

891
00:57:42,409 --> 00:57:43,909
is now going to be run here in 2027.

892
00:57:43,909 --> 00:57:43,913
Somewhere around $7.5 million.

893
00:57:43,913 --> 00:57:46,716
The city of Lighthouse Point is also a big page --

894
00:57:46,716 --> 00:57:48,537
I believe what you see around here

895
00:57:48,537 --> 00:57:49,912
and when you look at the library,

896
00:57:49,912 --> 00:57:51,865
you look at the police and the fire.

897
00:57:51,865 --> 00:57:54,398
You look at the unsung heroes here at Public Works

898
00:57:54,398 --> 00:57:56,293
and you look at our recreational departments.

899
00:57:56,293 --> 00:57:58,573
You look at all of the departments.

900
00:57:58,573 --> 00:58:00,285
And these people have to get paid

901
00:58:00,285 --> 00:58:01,785
so we need a good finance department

902
00:58:01,785 --> 00:58:03,396
and we need a great leader.

903
00:58:03,396 --> 00:58:05,425
We need legal and city clerks.

904
00:58:05,425 --> 00:58:11,425
You cannot pay them substandard wages and expect the best

905
00:58:12,580 --> 00:58:14,580
service.

906
00:58:14,878 --> 00:58:17,945
With that being said, you will definitely

907
00:58:17,945 --> 00:58:19,487
see our goals looking at what we will

908
00:58:19,487 --> 00:58:19,493
see whether it's 150 or 250.

909
00:58:19,493 --> 00:58:21,910
150 would be the elimination of a lot of long term capital

910
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:26,110
improvement projects we've delayed from 20 years ago.

911
00:58:33,653 --> 00:58:36,111
250 star would definitely -- it's hard to say when you look

912
00:58:36,111 --> 00:58:38,528
at what's important, I get everybody says police and fire?

913
00:58:38,528 --> 00:58:41,185
They became an unprotected aspect of it.

914
00:58:41,185 --> 00:58:43,975
Everybody thinks police and fire will stay the same.

915
00:58:43,975 --> 00:58:44,998
They are not protected.

916
00:58:44,998 --> 00:58:52,798
It's hard to say that we're going to go ahead and cut down--

917
00:58:54,723 --> 00:58:58,881
get rid of a public library or public works pier

918
00:58:58,881 --> 00:59:03,681
it's going to be collective across the board.

919
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:05,508
The assessments will be part of it.

920
00:59:05,508 --> 00:59:05,555
And I remind people that those are not tax exempt either.

921
00:59:05,555 --> 00:59:07,263
You cannot write those off on your taxes.

922
00:59:07,263 --> 00:59:09,263
That's unfortunate--

923
00:59:20,152 --> 00:59:21,652
you can't assess for certain things.

924
00:59:21,652 --> 00:59:25,568
The assessment for fire is only used for fire assessment.

925
00:59:25,568 --> 00:59:25,577
I would say as you look at it, there's

926
00:59:25,577 --> 00:59:25,647
a conversation of what Marty was mentioning.

927
00:59:25,647 --> 00:59:28,265
Some of the money, whether they would raise sales tax

928
00:59:28,265 --> 00:59:34,265
or how they would have an off site-- folks that

929
00:59:38,593 --> 00:59:40,882
don't know here, for the last four years

930
00:59:40,882 --> 00:59:40,891
have had a lobbyist and we've gone to Tallahassee

931
00:59:40,891 --> 00:59:40,902
and asked for money because we put a lot of money

932
00:59:40,902 --> 00:59:42,777
into the coffers, and we don't get a lot back

933
00:59:42,777 --> 00:59:46,377
for the city of lighthouse point.

934
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:50,483
I remind residents when you see your textbook,

935
00:59:50,483 --> 00:59:53,250
21.2% of the bill that you pay comes to Lighthouse Point Pier

936
00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:56,250
everything else goes somewhere else.

937
00:59:58,250 --> 01:00:02,809
So if your tax bill is $10,000, we're not getting $10,000.

938
01:00:02,809 --> 01:00:08,809
This year we had roughly two and a half, $3 million

939
01:00:17,163 --> 01:00:18,163
worth of appropriations.

940
01:00:18,163 --> 01:00:23,563
So when the money's up in Tallahassee, your project,

941
01:00:24,610 --> 01:00:27,661
your appropriations, your needs and wants.

942
01:00:31,131 --> 01:00:34,170
Sometimes-- a really little fishing in a really big pond.

943
01:00:34,170 --> 01:00:35,267
I stress about it every night.

944
01:00:35,267 --> 01:00:38,867
That's why I'm looking like this.

945
01:00:41,903 --> 01:00:43,235
If not I'd have Jason's hair.

946
01:00:43,235 --> 01:00:45,235
>> I'm getting gray.

947
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,000
>> I'm the one thing I forgot to mention.

948
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,200
The court did rule recently that they

949
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,780
have to-- all of that really means

950
01:00:56,780 --> 01:00:57,745
is the way the law works it was written,

951
01:00:57,745 --> 01:00:58,229
so the Attorney general was supposed to redo the language.

952
01:00:58,229 --> 01:01:00,590
It's still going to be on the ballot.

953
01:01:00,590 --> 01:01:02,930
It will be in different format.

954
01:01:02,930 --> 01:01:03,718
The language will be a little different

955
01:01:03,718 --> 01:01:06,118
than what's currently there.

956
01:01:17,957 --> 01:01:19,957
>> She's behind.

957
01:01:20,997 --> 01:01:22,332
>> Hello.

958
01:01:22,332 --> 01:01:23,552
Good to see you.

959
01:01:23,552 --> 01:01:25,100
The, you have my address on record.

960
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,635
So when the lieutenant governor was here a couple of weeks ago.

961
01:01:27,635 --> 01:01:30,774
He mentioned that in Tallahassee there's a surplus of funds

962
01:01:30,774 --> 01:01:35,574
and that they would be weeded out accordingly

963
01:01:35,697 --> 01:01:36,530
if CDs were in need.

964
01:01:36,530 --> 01:01:36,539
And then a couple of weeks later, our appropriations

965
01:01:36,539 --> 01:01:36,543
did not come through.

966
01:01:36,543 --> 01:01:39,100
I realize that's a different thing that he's talking about.

967
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,457
My question is about the ballot language.

968
01:01:41,457 --> 01:01:43,889
Is there anything in the ballot that

969
01:01:43,889 --> 01:01:47,861
talks about money coming down from Tallahassee

970
01:01:47,861 --> 01:01:53,861
and how that gets appropriated to according to me, whoever's

971
01:02:04,604 --> 01:02:07,604
the best friends up there?

972
01:02:07,673 --> 01:02:09,840
Is there anything in the ballot protecting residents

973
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,257
to make sure that lighthouse would

974
01:02:11,257 --> 01:02:13,657
get the same appropriations?

975
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:17,862
>> Great questions.

976
01:02:17,862 --> 01:02:20,262
The answer is no.

977
01:02:24,313 --> 01:02:28,229
The thing is, when the governor had

978
01:02:28,229 --> 01:02:29,812
proposed his plans to the legislature,

979
01:02:29,812 --> 01:02:29,819
it had a trust fund in there.

980
01:02:29,819 --> 01:02:31,277
And what the governor had advocated

981
01:02:31,277 --> 01:02:37,404
for was that the trust fund would be utilized by the-- it

982
01:02:37,404 --> 01:02:42,204
would be utilized to help fiscally constrained counties.

983
01:02:44,204 --> 01:02:46,790
For example, Lighthouse Point ultimately lost

984
01:02:46,790 --> 01:02:52,790
6% of its revenue.-- it took out the trust fund

985
01:02:53,494 --> 01:02:55,119
because the support wasn't there for it

986
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:55,131
so right now when you look at the plain wording of it,

987
01:02:55,131 --> 01:02:58,215
it doesn't show how any revenue will be allocated.

988
01:02:58,215 --> 01:03:00,455
One thing I think is such a good question

989
01:03:00,455 --> 01:03:06,455
because I was thinking about this as you were talking.

990
01:03:06,905 --> 01:03:13,299
There are more than 400 some our throughout the state of Florida

991
01:03:13,299 --> 01:03:14,382
and there are 67 counties.

992
01:03:14,382 --> 01:03:14,392
Every county and every city can just do different things.

993
01:03:14,392 --> 01:03:14,399
Depending on who's elected in those areas.

994
01:03:14,399 --> 01:03:17,745
Some counties and some cities say, we have a level of service.

995
01:03:17,745 --> 01:03:19,417
Service is very important.

996
01:03:19,417 --> 01:03:21,345
We want to fund everything the way it is.

997
01:03:21,345 --> 01:03:23,711
Maybe it will increase fees, millage rates and do

998
01:03:23,711 --> 01:03:25,145
all kinds of different things.

999
01:03:25,145 --> 01:03:27,345
Others say that people voted for a tax help.

1000
01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:29,135
We're just going to cut.

1001
01:03:29,135 --> 01:03:31,193
So it will be all over the place.

1002
01:03:31,193 --> 01:03:33,650
It's almost like a mortgage sport.

1003
01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:35,170
I want to bring it up because nobody really

1004
01:03:35,170 --> 01:03:36,795
knows what's going to happen with that.

1005
01:03:36,795 --> 01:03:38,795
Great question.

1006
01:03:39,435 --> 01:03:41,835
Thank you for that.

1007
01:03:51,282 --> 01:03:51,949
>> Anybody else?

1008
01:03:51,949 --> 01:03:54,857
>> Can I jump on one more thing?

1009
01:03:54,857 --> 01:03:54,866
I want to commend you all because it's not

1010
01:03:54,866 --> 01:03:57,324
easy to get an appropriation all the way to the government,

1011
01:03:57,324 --> 01:04:03,924
whether the governor signs it or vetoes it in the budget.

1012
01:04:06,788 --> 01:04:07,830
It's a very hard process.

1013
01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:07,838
I was in the legislature for six years.

1014
01:04:07,838 --> 01:04:07,841
Everybody wants money.

1015
01:04:07,841 --> 01:04:08,898
They did every single state representative and state senator

1016
01:04:08,898 --> 01:04:10,883
to bring stuff back to the communities,

1017
01:04:10,883 --> 01:04:12,716
and everybody's fighting for it and the fact

1018
01:04:12,716 --> 01:04:18,116
that you all were able to get appropriations up,

1019
01:04:30,965 --> 01:04:34,192
it's pretty impressive feat. think it's pretty commendable.

1020
01:04:34,192 --> 01:04:36,192
Thank you.

1021
01:04:40,577 --> 01:04:41,770
[Applause]

1022
01:04:41,770 --> 01:04:43,107
>> Moving on, we now have public comments requests from

1023
01:04:43,107 --> 01:04:43,121
the floor. have an open there with our property If anybody

1024
01:04:43,121 --> 01:04:43,725
would to come up and address an issue.

1025
01:04:43,725 --> 01:04:46,225
Come forward and state your name and address and will you be

1026
01:04:46,225 --> 01:04:49,225
given three minutes to speak.

1027
01:04:50,705 --> 01:04:52,705
Anybody coming forward?

1028
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,360
I'm not seeing anybody.

1029
01:05:16,450 --> 01:05:18,408
>> Come on up.

1030
01:05:18,408 --> 01:05:20,408
>> I'm David Mangold.

1031
01:05:20,965 --> 01:05:24,565
I live in 4001, Northeast 27th terrace.

1032
01:05:28,676 --> 01:05:30,176
I thought a lot the sidewalk issue I

1033
01:05:30,176 --> 01:05:37,376
on the west The sidewalks going to go on the east side.

1034
01:05:43,474 --> 01:05:45,843
I assume there's quite traffic study done.

1035
01:05:45,843 --> 01:05:50,430
I have lived in my home since 1998.

1036
01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:55,964
28 years.

1037
01:05:55,964 --> 01:06:02,564
I have children that were born in that house and raised.

1038
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:09,605
The traffic has been horrendous every day for years and years.

1039
01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:17,750
The police hardly ever come there

1040
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:22,136
to check people with their radar gun or whatever for speeding.

1041
01:06:22,136 --> 01:06:24,678
They Finally put in two speed bumps which works a little bit.

1042
01:06:24,678 --> 01:06:26,261
They speed between speed bumps from 39

1043
01:06:26,261 --> 01:06:32,261
to the first speed bump in front of my house

1044
01:06:33,804 --> 01:06:34,762
to the next speed bump.

1045
01:06:34,762 --> 01:06:36,595
It seemed they drove even faster coming back

1046
01:06:36,595 --> 01:06:42,595
after having a lunch, or a cocktail or a beer.

1047
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,262
We're lucky that no kids have ever been hurt or killed

1048
01:06:48,262 --> 01:06:48,887
on that street.

1049
01:06:48,887 --> 01:06:54,287
So what I'm getting at is the traffic study

1050
01:06:54,693 --> 01:06:58,893
was done, which I don't know about.

1051
01:07:00,635 --> 01:07:02,968
So they think pedestrians walking their dogs or whatever

1052
01:07:02,968 --> 01:07:10,168
would be safer on a sidewalk, which has some merits to it.

1053
01:07:14,779 --> 01:07:17,146
The reason the sidewalk is thought about

1054
01:07:17,146 --> 01:07:17,156
is because maybe it's a requirement of the yacht club

1055
01:07:17,156 --> 01:07:18,948
and their plans to make the community safer

1056
01:07:18,948 --> 01:07:21,318
for people driving to and from the yacht club.

1057
01:07:21,318 --> 01:07:26,111
I don't know how many cars, new cars are going to be there

1058
01:07:26,111 --> 01:07:28,691
when all of these condos are built.

1059
01:07:28,691 --> 01:07:31,475
It's going to be significant.

1060
01:07:31,475 --> 01:07:35,675
And when they build a new restaurant,

1061
01:07:44,195 --> 01:07:47,160
the yacht club members will be coming and coming.

1062
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,730
I have thoughts and wondered all along,

1063
01:07:50,730 --> 01:07:56,303
a parallel street east of us is called Northeast 30th Avenue.

1064
01:07:56,303 --> 01:08:01,703
And that goes right in-- it could go right

1065
01:08:05,677 --> 01:08:06,510
into the Yacht club.

1066
01:08:06,510 --> 01:08:09,100
I would think that it would be very wise to share the burden

1067
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:11,449
off of my street by having 27th terrace for the traffic

1068
01:08:11,449 --> 01:08:15,649
into the yacht club, 30th Avenue out.

1069
01:08:23,264 --> 01:08:26,864
One way in, one way out.

1070
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:37,940
If there's no requirements by the city to have 30th cut

1071
01:08:37,940 --> 01:08:39,784
through, remove one of the tennis courts,

1072
01:08:39,784 --> 01:08:40,992
and its into the parking lot.

1073
01:08:40,992 --> 01:08:42,200
That seems pretty wise to me.

1074
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:48,200
>> Thank you very much for bringing it to our attention.

1075
01:08:50,861 --> 01:08:57,461
>> Can you tell me, what's a traffic study done on 27th?

1076
01:09:01,106 --> 01:09:02,430
>> Yes.

1077
01:09:02,430 --> 01:09:02,284
>> And is there a requirement by the Yacht Club to have

1078
01:09:02,284 --> 01:09:02,784
a sidewalk?

1079
01:09:02,784 --> 01:09:05,784
>> It's in their development agreement.

1080
01:09:08,652 --> 01:09:12,968
>> And has there been any discussion or decisions about

1081
01:09:12,968 --> 01:09:15,368
utilizing Northeast 30th avenue?

1082
01:09:20,198 --> 01:09:22,365
I think one way in and one way out would be perfect.

1083
01:09:22,365 --> 01:09:22,373
Are both ways in and both ways out,

1084
01:09:22,373 --> 01:09:22,463
because there is people that would choose to use 30th versus

1085
01:09:22,463 --> 01:09:24,463
27th terrace.

1086
01:09:24,825 --> 01:09:30,825
>> The development that was done over the last eight years.

1087
01:09:38,385 --> 01:09:43,489
The development itself came back with what the design is,

1088
01:09:43,489 --> 01:09:48,889
which is an in and out on 27th terrace.

1089
01:09:52,635 --> 01:09:55,302
>> The guy you gotta talk to is back there if he wants to change

1090
01:09:55,302 --> 01:09:55,303
it.

1091
01:09:55,303 --> 01:09:56,928
It might be a tough list at this point.

1092
01:09:56,928 --> 01:09:59,928
>> The city can orchestrate anything.

1093
01:10:05,257 --> 01:10:06,737
Why not?

1094
01:10:06,737 --> 01:10:09,290
>> Because we have already passed and approved the site

1095
01:10:09,290 --> 01:10:11,429
plan several years ago.

1096
01:10:14,405 --> 01:10:19,638
>> In addition to the sidewalks, there's a provision that

1097
01:10:19,638 --> 01:10:25,380
requires them to do permanent traffic-- which would include--

1098
01:10:32,580 --> 01:10:36,258
(Indiscernible) -- the narrowing of the street,

1099
01:10:48,564 --> 01:10:55,764
the addition of the striping and the added speed bump should also

1100
01:11:00,450 --> 01:11:03,905
help reduce >> I'd really like to see those speed signs that

1101
01:11:03,905 --> 01:11:04,947
blink when you exceed 25.

1102
01:11:04,947 --> 01:11:04,956
In 28 years, I can count with two hands

1103
01:11:04,956 --> 01:11:07,498
the number of times there's ever been a police car with speed

1104
01:11:07,498 --> 01:11:09,498
monitoring device.

1105
01:11:14,909 --> 01:11:19,109
But they are all over other places.

1106
01:11:27,357 --> 01:11:28,591
>> Thank you.

1107
01:11:28,591 --> 01:11:30,799
Any other public comments or requests from the floor?

1108
01:11:30,799 --> 01:11:33,799
We will close public comments.

1109
01:11:40,436 --> 01:11:41,936
No reports from city administration.

1110
01:11:41,936 --> 01:11:41,939
No department reports.

1111
01:11:41,939 --> 01:11:41,945
No reports from the city attorney.

1112
01:11:41,945 --> 01:11:41,954
Code enforcement is going to meet the August 18th.

1113
01:11:41,954 --> 01:11:43,454
Community appearance is August 20th.

1114
01:11:43,454 --> 01:11:47,654
Lighting-- moving on to the consent agenda.

1115
01:11:55,194 --> 01:11:57,819
Is there anything that we need to pull from the consent agenda?

1116
01:11:57,819 --> 01:11:59,819
Hearing none.

1117
01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:03,198
Do we have a second?

1118
01:12:03,198 --> 01:12:05,323
We have a motion and a second on the consent agenda

1119
01:12:05,323 --> 01:12:08,583
all those in favor signify by saying aye.

1120
01:12:08,583 --> 01:12:11,266
The motion passes four zero.

1121
01:12:11,266 --> 01:12:13,474
Moving on to unfinished business continued discussion

1122
01:12:13,474 --> 01:12:18,274
on the implementation of off site sidewalk improvements

1123
01:12:22,365 --> 01:12:24,948
identified in section 11.2.3 of the development agreement with

1124
01:12:24,948 --> 01:12:27,348
Lighthouse Point Yacht Club.

1125
01:12:32,316 --> 01:12:34,716
>> Good evening. (Indiscernible)--

1126
01:12:35,435 --> 01:12:40,835
in accordance with the terms of developers-- (Indiscernible)--

1127
01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:54,610
On February 14th, 2023, the city Commission previously discussed

1128
01:12:59,731 --> 01:13:02,731
sidewalk improvements required under section 11.2.3

1129
01:13:02,945 --> 01:13:05,345
of the developer's agreement.

1130
01:13:14,284 --> 01:13:17,284
During the discussion, (Indiscernible)--

1131
01:13:21,902 --> 01:13:24,527
several residents attended the February 14th meeting to provide

1132
01:13:24,527 --> 01:13:26,927
public comment. (Indiscernible)--

1133
01:13:28,642 --> 01:13:33,442
the city Commission acknowledged that they were sensitive

1134
01:13:36,874 --> 01:13:38,954
to concerns raised by the residents.

1135
01:13:38,954 --> 01:13:42,697
However, they did not support eliminating the sidewalk

1136
01:13:42,697 --> 01:13:45,197
requirements at the time, and the item be further discussed.

1137
01:13:45,197 --> 01:13:51,197
On July 29th, that was a week or so ago,

1138
01:13:56,346 --> 01:13:58,554
residents on Northeast 27 terrace were again surveyed

1139
01:13:58,554 --> 01:14:00,713
regarding the sidewalk project.

1140
01:14:00,713 --> 01:14:04,913
The results-- seven of the ten homeowners

1141
01:14:05,610 --> 01:14:07,193
were in favor of putting in sidewalks.

1142
01:14:07,193 --> 01:14:07,199
One was against the installation sidewalks.

1143
01:14:07,199 --> 01:14:07,202
One was undecided.

1144
01:14:07,202 --> 01:14:08,745
And we were unable to reach -- residents on the west side

1145
01:14:08,745 --> 01:14:09,805
of 27th terrace.

1146
01:14:09,805 --> 01:14:12,813
Seven of those residents were in favor of the sidewalk.

1147
01:14:12,813 --> 01:14:15,965
One was against and there were six homeowners

1148
01:14:15,965 --> 01:14:18,936
that we were not able to reach.

1149
01:14:18,936 --> 01:14:22,425
We believe that the change the number of people that

1150
01:14:22,425 --> 01:14:26,470
are in favor of the sidewalk is based on the idea

1151
01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:29,791
that we would be leaving the sidewalks down the street

1152
01:14:29,791 --> 01:14:35,191
and not having it all six feet up until--

1153
01:14:41,779 --> 01:14:45,164
on some places the sidewalk would

1154
01:14:45,164 --> 01:14:47,372
be along the edge of the road to minimize the effects

1155
01:14:47,372 --> 01:14:49,772
of these large trees.

1156
01:14:51,390 --> 01:14:57,639
Some of the residents were at one time opposed to sidewalk.

1157
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,600
The city has engaged Keith.

1158
01:15:05,766 --> 01:15:09,966
The city engineer-- the installation of sidewalks

1159
01:15:10,148 --> 01:15:11,523
will include all the improvements

1160
01:15:11,523 --> 01:15:15,123
necessary to complete the sidewalk project.

1161
01:15:20,418 --> 01:15:22,501
As part of your attachment and your agenda report,

1162
01:15:22,501 --> 01:15:22,507
there's a copy of the Engineering

1163
01:15:22,507 --> 01:15:23,715
and project across estimates.

1164
01:15:23,715 --> 01:15:27,915
The cost of the improvement, including engineering

1165
01:15:30,966 --> 01:15:33,341
and the responsibility is the responsibility of developer

1166
01:15:33,341 --> 01:15:36,941
in accordance with section 11.2.3 -- (Indiscernible).

1167
01:15:42,923 --> 01:15:49,911
I believe we probably have some residents here that live on 27th

1168
01:15:49,911 --> 01:15:55,311
terrace that might like to speak on the topic.

1169
01:15:56,811 --> 01:16:01,611
Also, we have Tom Green from Keith Engineering,

1170
01:16:03,394 --> 01:16:05,833
was here except the project and give a presentation

1171
01:16:05,833 --> 01:16:08,000
on preliminary engineering plans that were conducted

1172
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:13,400
and to answer any questions that you might have.

1173
01:16:13,419 --> 01:16:15,336
I would ask Tom come up before we get started.

1174
01:16:15,336 --> 01:16:17,336
Give his presentation.

1175
01:16:24,628 --> 01:16:25,463
>> Thank you.

1176
01:16:25,463 --> 01:16:27,863
Good evening, Mayor, Commission.

1177
01:16:34,415 --> 01:16:38,981
Tom green with-- the requested by the city to look

1178
01:16:38,981 --> 01:16:41,523
at the feasibility of installing the sidewalk on 27th terrace

1179
01:16:41,523 --> 01:16:48,123
with a focus on trying to install on the east side.

1180
01:16:56,882 --> 01:16:59,282
>> It's up and down.

1181
01:17:14,935 --> 01:17:15,492
>> All right.

1182
01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:16,241
To put this in context, we're focused on 27th terrace.

1183
01:17:16,241 --> 01:17:16,249
The site map is showing identifying the location

1184
01:17:16,249 --> 01:17:16,253
of the potential project.

1185
01:17:16,253 --> 01:17:16,328
And our goal is to look at a very high conceptual level,

1186
01:17:16,328 --> 01:17:18,885
is it feasible to install this and not focus on the east side

1187
01:17:18,885 --> 01:17:20,185
of 27th terrace.

1188
01:17:20,185 --> 01:17:23,265
And we went out there and looked at existing conditions

1189
01:17:23,265 --> 01:17:25,535
as you make your way from left to right.

1190
01:17:25,535 --> 01:17:29,445
You're really working away from South and Oracle.

1191
01:17:29,445 --> 01:17:32,995
That's at the intersection of 39th and then advancing your way

1192
01:17:32,995 --> 01:17:40,795
toward -- as you looked at it, we came up with this conceptual

1193
01:17:50,631 --> 01:17:51,131
plan.

1194
01:17:51,131 --> 01:17:51,137
What you're looking on the screen

1195
01:17:51,137 --> 01:17:51,144
is a concept plan at the top.

1196
01:17:51,144 --> 01:17:51,150
It's the sections at the bottom.

1197
01:17:51,150 --> 01:17:51,158
There are a lot of above ground impediments,

1198
01:17:51,158 --> 01:17:51,166
as I flashed back to the previous slide.

1199
01:17:51,166 --> 01:17:51,442
You can really see that highlighted

1200
01:17:51,442 --> 01:17:52,873
in the bottom in the middle.

1201
01:17:52,873 --> 01:17:58,273
Either utility poles or the nice existing tree canopy

1202
01:17:58,633 --> 01:18:00,818
and other things that we want to avoid as we

1203
01:18:00,818 --> 01:18:01,693
install the sidewalk.

1204
01:18:01,693 --> 01:18:04,758
In this concept plan in the green areas

1205
01:18:04,758 --> 01:18:09,681
we're trying to keep a minimum of a six foot setback

1206
01:18:09,681 --> 01:18:11,980
for the front face of the sidewalk

1207
01:18:11,980 --> 01:18:14,257
from the back edge of the curve, or the edge of the pavement.

1208
01:18:14,257 --> 01:18:16,311
And we see it delineated in yellow.

1209
01:18:16,311 --> 01:18:18,269
That's where the sidewalk is now hugging closer

1210
01:18:18,269 --> 01:18:19,344
to the edge of the road.

1211
01:18:19,344 --> 01:18:20,844
And now we're separating pedestrians

1212
01:18:20,844 --> 01:18:25,440
from the traffic with the-- if you

1213
01:18:36,195 --> 01:18:38,528
look at the bottom of the screen for the typical section

1214
01:18:38,528 --> 01:18:38,538
on the left hand side, that is your curb condition

1215
01:18:38,538 --> 01:18:38,546
and on the bottom right hand side, that

1216
01:18:38,546 --> 01:18:38,551
is your on current condition.

1217
01:18:38,551 --> 01:18:38,558
We're keeping our daily six foot setback

1218
01:18:38,558 --> 01:18:38,564
for the base of the sidewalk.

1219
01:18:38,564 --> 01:18:40,640
And as we advance further north, you

1220
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,613
can see that the sidewalk meanders slightly.

1221
01:18:42,613 --> 01:18:45,653
The goal was trying to create that setback.

1222
01:18:45,653 --> 01:18:47,689
And that's really for drainage purposes.

1223
01:18:47,689 --> 01:18:51,289
Once we introduce a gutter condition,

1224
01:18:51,485 --> 01:18:54,558
you have water that's running down the edge of the curb.

1225
01:18:54,558 --> 01:18:57,705
Without a lot of existing drainage infrastructure,

1226
01:18:57,705 --> 01:19:00,730
there's potential for a spread.

1227
01:19:00,730 --> 01:19:05,505
We don't want to interrupt existing service on the roadway

1228
01:19:05,505 --> 01:19:07,385
by introducing this improvements.

1229
01:19:07,385 --> 01:19:12,785
So we can take advantage of existing grass conditions.

1230
01:19:27,448 --> 01:19:29,990
(Indiscernible)-- and then just to put this into perspective,

1231
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:30,401
these are the two typical sections that we previously

1232
01:19:30,401 --> 01:19:30,901
showed.

1233
01:19:30,901 --> 01:19:39,901
The one at the top of the screen is your-- this would be an ideal

1234
01:19:46,896 --> 01:19:49,479
location where you can have some minimum setback from the edge

1235
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:49,485
of the roadway and installed --

1236
01:19:49,485 --> 01:19:49,495
on the bottom of the screen you can see where

1237
01:19:49,495 --> 01:19:49,501
because of existing landscaping, just not

1238
01:19:49,501 --> 01:19:50,513
wanting to create a lot of upsets or additional costs

1239
01:19:50,513 --> 01:19:53,465
for this, and really trying to maintain additional landscaping

1240
01:19:53,465 --> 01:19:54,505
where feasible.

1241
01:19:54,505 --> 01:19:58,161
We introduced that and where the driveways are that's

1242
01:19:58,161 --> 01:20:01,335
where it goes down to create that condition.

1243
01:20:01,335 --> 01:20:03,785
It continues through and once you're past the driveway

1244
01:20:03,785 --> 01:20:07,850
connection, that's where it starts to flare back up and you

1245
01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:08,650
--

1246
01:20:08,650 --> 01:20:11,650
>> Can I ask a question?

1247
01:20:21,414 --> 01:20:23,649
Where the back of that car is where the driveway is,

1248
01:20:23,649 --> 01:20:26,191
the sidewalk is going to go down and then come back up again?

1249
01:20:26,191 --> 01:20:30,391
>> I'm going to point to the screen.

1250
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:33,603
It's a little hard to see.

1251
01:20:33,603 --> 01:20:33,610
At the very bottom of the screen,

1252
01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:33,621
you can see where the curb is raised above your gutter.

1253
01:20:33,621 --> 01:20:33,749
As you approach the driveway, it starts to layer down

1254
01:20:33,749 --> 01:20:34,749
to create that position.

1255
01:20:34,749 --> 01:20:37,725
So your car is not popping over the curb at the driveway.

1256
01:20:37,725 --> 01:20:39,845
And once you get past the driveway curbs,

1257
01:20:39,845 --> 01:20:42,245
the curb starts to--

1258
01:20:55,550 --> 01:20:57,513
>> I'm more concerned about the sidewalk than the driveway.

1259
01:20:57,513 --> 01:20:57,522
If you're going down the driveway in a wheelchair,

1260
01:20:57,522 --> 01:20:58,980
or you're walking in your handicap,

1261
01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:04,980
you're gonna go down and then come back up again?

1262
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:14,487
>> Again, let me jump back to these conceptual plans.

1263
01:21:14,991 --> 01:21:17,699
Without actual survey done, this is at a very high concept level.

1264
01:21:17,699 --> 01:21:17,704
It is feasible to install.

1265
01:21:17,704 --> 01:21:17,710
Everything we're talking about is going

1266
01:21:17,710 --> 01:21:17,715
to be the Ada requirements.

1267
01:21:17,715 --> 01:21:17,900
In terms of your running, not exceeding a 5%.

1268
01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:19,957
In terms of your cross loop not exceeding at 2%,

1269
01:21:19,957 --> 01:21:22,249
everything has to be done to meet that Ada requirements

1270
01:21:22,249 --> 01:21:24,265
and be Ada compliant.

1271
01:21:24,265 --> 01:21:30,865
>> You're saying it is feasible to build and be based upon--

1272
01:21:44,937 --> 01:21:46,127
>> Yes, it is feasible.

1273
01:21:46,127 --> 01:21:46,373
And when the survey comes in, it's really important

1274
01:21:46,373 --> 01:21:46,381
because you're fighting for fractions of an inch

1275
01:21:46,381 --> 01:21:47,589
to come hit these tolerances.

1276
01:21:47,589 --> 01:21:50,361
Everything you built, it's not designed for 2%.

1277
01:21:50,361 --> 01:21:52,361
It's designed for 1.5%.

1278
01:22:06,793 --> 01:22:09,168
>> And some sections are going to be conceptually or feet

1279
01:22:09,168 --> 01:22:09,182
and some would be six feet -- it's to make it wider where it

1280
01:22:09,182 --> 01:22:09,185
can be wider?

1281
01:22:09,185 --> 01:22:11,477
You ideally want to maintain a five foot wide sidewalk.

1282
01:22:11,477 --> 01:22:17,477
A lot of what we follow is the-- existing conditions

1283
01:22:26,222 --> 01:22:28,264
really tell the picture of what we're up against.

1284
01:22:28,264 --> 01:22:28,272
It's kind of a tricky lift in order

1285
01:22:28,272 --> 01:22:29,397
to make all of this happen.

1286
01:22:29,397 --> 01:22:33,597
>> In the bottom right, in some conditions,

1287
01:22:37,170 --> 01:22:38,934
where you cannot achieve that five foot width,

1288
01:22:38,934 --> 01:22:38,942
and there's existing above ground impediments that cannot

1289
01:22:38,942 --> 01:22:39,453
move or feasible to move, dot contemplates getting down

1290
01:22:39,453 --> 01:22:40,367
to a minimum width.

1291
01:22:40,367 --> 01:22:44,401
So I believe it could be a skinny as about 36 inch

1292
01:22:44,401 --> 01:22:45,417
wide sidewalk.

1293
01:22:45,417 --> 01:22:49,940
Our goal is to maintain a continuous five foot width.

1294
01:22:49,940 --> 01:22:54,740
Once you get into the survey, (Indiscernible)--

1295
01:23:07,372 --> 01:23:08,914
I'm going to end on these conditions.

1296
01:23:08,914 --> 01:23:10,497
This is what the conditions look like.

1297
01:23:10,497 --> 01:23:13,725
And this is a very high level at the feasibility standpoint.

1298
01:23:13,725 --> 01:23:17,377
And we can take advantage of the natural circulation

1299
01:23:17,377 --> 01:23:22,777
and try to take advantage of the green space.

1300
01:23:40,856 --> 01:23:42,148
>> Any questions for Mr. Green?

1301
01:23:42,148 --> 01:23:44,548
>> Thank you very much.

1302
01:23:53,526 --> 01:24:00,126
>> Before we discuss anything, do we want to invite people up?

1303
01:24:00,893 --> 01:24:03,893
Are there any residents here?

1304
01:24:09,839 --> 01:24:10,506
>> Good evening.

1305
01:24:10,506 --> 01:24:10,510
My name is Dalia.

1306
01:24:10,510 --> 01:24:10,520
I'm a resident on 27th terrace on the east side.

1307
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:10,527
Also a member of the yacht club.

1308
01:24:10,527 --> 01:24:10,535
When this issue came up two years ago,

1309
01:24:10,535 --> 01:24:13,944
there was significant opposition to this project

1310
01:24:13,944 --> 01:24:15,944
for multiple reasons.

1311
01:24:22,410 --> 01:24:24,160
Number one, creating a sidewalk for people

1312
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:24,167
who are walking their dogs, it doesn't

1313
01:24:24,167 --> 01:24:24,173
eliminate the high speed traffic that

1314
01:24:24,173 --> 01:24:24,180
is going up and down the road.

1315
01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:24,426
Putting in a sidewalk does not help the speeding issue.

1316
01:24:24,426 --> 01:24:26,135
It doesn't help provide safety.

1317
01:24:26,135 --> 01:24:28,746
People are doing e-bikes, scooters.

1318
01:24:28,746 --> 01:24:30,371
They're going to be using the sidewalk.

1319
01:24:30,371 --> 01:24:32,288
There's sidewalks all through Lighthouse Point

1320
01:24:32,288 --> 01:24:35,505
that are not used, people are still using the street.

1321
01:24:35,505 --> 01:24:38,210
So to put it in a sidewalk and destroy seven driveways

1322
01:24:38,210 --> 01:24:39,389
that are affected.

1323
01:24:39,389 --> 01:24:41,853
There are seven homes that have pavers and driveways that

1324
01:24:41,853 --> 01:24:43,561
are going to be affected by this project.

1325
01:24:43,561 --> 01:24:47,650
The one that you saw there was my home with a circular driveway

1326
01:24:47,650 --> 01:24:49,545
and three royal palms that are 40 years old.

1327
01:24:49,545 --> 01:24:52,561
There's no way to maintain those royal palms with the sidewalk

1328
01:24:52,561 --> 01:24:54,561
that you proposed.

1329
01:24:57,454 --> 01:24:59,454
Period.

1330
01:25:01,963 --> 01:25:06,163
And that's not fair to the homeowners

1331
01:25:08,291 --> 01:25:10,999
that lined the street to get rid of their property to destroy it.

1332
01:25:10,999 --> 01:25:11,120
I get that it's an easement, but this is not a public works

1333
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:11,130
project.

1334
01:25:11,130 --> 01:25:11,170
This is not necessary.

1335
01:25:11,170 --> 01:25:11,250
So you can put in the speed bumps.

1336
01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:12,775
We can put in eliminated speed limit sign.

1337
01:25:12,775 --> 01:25:14,425
You can decrease the speed limit,

1338
01:25:14,425 --> 01:25:15,657
but this is not necessary.

1339
01:25:15,657 --> 01:25:18,803
There's no way that we talk to our person who maintains our.

1340
01:25:18,803 --> 01:25:21,305
There's no way to maintain the royal palms

1341
01:25:21,305 --> 01:25:23,305
with this demonstration.

1342
01:25:23,390 --> 01:25:26,390
And we were not polled.

1343
01:25:39,713 --> 01:25:43,135
Nobody came to us and asked us if we were in favor of this

1344
01:25:43,135 --> 01:25:43,635
or not.

1345
01:25:43,635 --> 01:25:43,638
That's number one.

1346
01:25:43,638 --> 01:25:43,647
And our neighbors have also said the same thing.

1347
01:25:43,647 --> 01:25:43,655
So we got an AI demonstration afterwards saying,

1348
01:25:43,655 --> 01:25:43,662
from whoever came by they said, this

1349
01:25:43,662 --> 01:25:44,912
is what we're proposing to do.

1350
01:25:44,912 --> 01:25:47,305
But we weren't told to say are you in favor of this,

1351
01:25:47,305 --> 01:25:48,965
or are you in opposition of this?

1352
01:25:48,965 --> 01:25:50,705
That didn't happen.

1353
01:25:50,705 --> 01:25:54,535
The root point is that creating a sidewalk

1354
01:25:54,535 --> 01:25:58,891
doesn't solve the problem of the speed limit.

1355
01:25:58,891 --> 01:26:01,538
So you can do things to affect the speed,

1356
01:26:01,538 --> 01:26:04,140
and whatever is in the development's agreement

1357
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:05,795
to affect the speed.

1358
01:26:05,795 --> 01:26:08,621
You can mark that money for that.

1359
01:26:08,621 --> 01:26:10,185
Seven driveways that are going to be

1360
01:26:10,185 --> 01:26:13,358
affected by this, that is significant and affects property

1361
01:26:13,358 --> 01:26:13,858
value.

1362
01:26:13,858 --> 01:26:16,585
And who's going to be legally responsible for when

1363
01:26:16,585 --> 01:26:17,745
there's drainage issues?

1364
01:26:17,745 --> 01:26:20,121
When they scrub the pipes underneath our homes?

1365
01:26:20,121 --> 01:26:22,105
When we have problems?

1366
01:26:22,105 --> 01:26:23,665
Who's going to be liable for?

1367
01:26:23,665 --> 01:26:25,665
The city?

1368
01:26:42,744 --> 01:26:46,720
>> That's a legal issue if it happens.

1369
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:46,732
>> It needs to be considered because there's a lot of homes

1370
01:26:46,732 --> 01:26:47,690
that are involved here.

1371
01:26:47,690 --> 01:26:53,900
To put something in for esthetics, that doesn't work.

1372
01:26:58,168 --> 01:27:00,168
>> I understand.

1373
01:27:00,902 --> 01:27:02,902
Anybody else?

1374
01:27:03,133 --> 01:27:08,533
Anybody online that would like to address this issue?

1375
01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:20,634
>> Yes, he's able to speak now.

1376
01:27:21,363 --> 01:27:24,303
>> Hi, can you hear me?

1377
01:27:24,303 --> 01:27:26,703
>> Name and address, please.

1378
01:27:30,180 --> 01:27:31,720
>> (Indiscernible)--

1379
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,537
>> Go for it.

1380
01:27:33,537 --> 01:27:35,537
>> (Indiscernible)

1381
01:28:02,773 --> 01:28:05,173
>> Thank you very much.

1382
01:28:05,995 --> 01:28:07,995
Sir.

1383
01:28:08,539 --> 01:28:12,739
>> David Mangold, 4001 Northeast 27th terrace, lighthouse point.

1384
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:18,758
Can you tell me how many units are planned

1385
01:28:18,758 --> 01:28:22,958
to be built at the Yacht Club?

1386
01:28:29,653 --> 01:28:31,653
>> 22.

1387
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:35,599
>> 21 townhomes, 1 single family home.

1388
01:28:41,352 --> 01:28:42,413
>> 22.

1389
01:28:42,413 --> 01:28:42,420
Let's say they had 22 cars each.

1390
01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:42,424
They might have three.

1391
01:28:42,424 --> 01:28:43,591
Let's say two cars for each.

1392
01:28:43,591 --> 01:28:47,191
That's 44 additional people coming and going,

1393
01:28:48,722 --> 01:28:52,322
one or more times, every day.

1394
01:28:55,892 --> 01:28:57,684
Are they planning on building a restaurant?

1395
01:28:57,684 --> 01:28:57,694
I was a member of the Yacht Club for years.

1396
01:28:57,694 --> 01:28:59,402
We enjoyed going to the restaurant there.

1397
01:28:59,402 --> 01:29:04,802
Do you know if they're going to build restaurants?

1398
01:29:12,781 --> 01:29:15,781
>> Yes, a very nice one.

1399
01:29:16,502 --> 01:29:17,669
>> So there is that traffic.

1400
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:17,678
And then they'll have a few tennis courts remaining.

1401
01:29:17,678 --> 01:29:17,681
There's that traffic.

1402
01:29:17,681 --> 01:29:18,889
And then they have the boats.

1403
01:29:18,889 --> 01:29:20,436
The slips.

1404
01:29:20,436 --> 01:29:22,836
A lot of traffic.

1405
01:29:31,429 --> 01:29:34,187
It's really too bad that somebody can't force the issue

1406
01:29:34,187 --> 01:29:36,270
of using 30th Avenue as an additional entry point.

1407
01:29:36,270 --> 01:29:39,270
And just think during construction

1408
01:29:39,977 --> 01:29:46,577
of, A, the sidewalk, and B, when they're bulldozing and building

1409
01:29:50,683 --> 01:29:51,433
in the yacht club.

1410
01:29:51,433 --> 01:29:54,433
Think about the dump trucks.

1411
01:29:57,974 --> 01:30:01,880
>> Several years ago, it was all considered.

1412
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:02,900
We are where we are.

1413
01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:05,900
Trust me, I was there.

1414
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,298
>> Well, let's hope the people and the children remain safe

1415
01:30:10,298 --> 01:30:14,498
on that street for years to come.

1416
01:30:17,857 --> 01:30:19,857
>> Thank you.

1417
01:30:22,444 --> 01:30:24,444
Anybody else?

1418
01:30:26,148 --> 01:30:31,189
Commissioners, I know where I want to start on this one.

1419
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:33,231
I remember that fateful day in 2023 when we first

1420
01:30:33,231 --> 01:30:33,239
discussed this certain handsome young gentleman out there

1421
01:30:33,239 --> 01:30:36,741
in the audience who came up here,

1422
01:30:36,741 --> 01:30:41,541
bright eyed and bushy tailed, addressed this commission

1423
01:30:47,159 --> 01:30:49,159
on this topic.

1424
01:30:56,189 --> 01:30:57,564
>> My view has not changed on it.

1425
01:30:57,564 --> 01:30:57,569
I've been vocal about that.

1426
01:30:57,569 --> 01:31:00,270
Just for the safety of the people that are on 27th terrace,

1427
01:31:00,270 --> 01:31:06,627
put in the peninsula of the area where the mayor livers,

1428
01:31:13,124 --> 01:31:14,550
many of the residents.

1429
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:14,650
To Mr. Mann point, the traffic is going to increase.

1430
01:31:14,650 --> 01:31:14,857
It's a dark street.

1431
01:31:14,857 --> 01:31:17,857
Traffic coming out at night--

1432
01:31:30,734 --> 01:31:31,901
I think sidewalks are great.

1433
01:31:31,901 --> 01:31:33,734
I guess my question would be the time frame.

1434
01:31:33,734 --> 01:31:37,334
Because this is just a conceptual--

1435
01:31:52,130 --> 01:31:55,330
where do we go from here?

1436
01:31:55,330 --> 01:32:01,633
>> First thing we do is we need to get direction --

1437
01:32:06,766 --> 01:32:08,766
(Indiscernible)--

1438
01:32:33,829 --> 01:32:36,162
>> And at plan doesn't affect any trees anywhere on 27th

1439
01:32:36,162 --> 01:32:38,162
terrace? (Indiscernible) --

1440
01:32:48,756 --> 01:32:51,256
>> The goal with the design is we're trying to eliminate any

1441
01:32:51,256 --> 01:32:51,260
impacts to the trees.

1442
01:32:51,260 --> 01:32:51,269
I can't definitively say that without having a survey,

1443
01:32:51,269 --> 01:32:52,144
but that is the goal.

1444
01:32:52,144 --> 01:32:56,944
We hug the curb where it's not feasible.

1445
01:33:01,281 --> 01:33:03,789
We try and maintain that five foot width,

1446
01:33:03,789 --> 01:33:03,799
which would be ideal to make that a continuous route

1447
01:33:03,799 --> 01:33:03,803
around that entire corridor.

1448
01:33:03,803 --> 01:33:03,810
That's the nuts and bolts of what

1449
01:33:03,810 --> 01:33:03,820
we get into as we start getting that excerpt information,

1450
01:33:03,820 --> 01:33:03,824
getting a detailed design.

1451
01:33:03,824 --> 01:33:04,653
No elimination of trees is the goal of this project.

1452
01:33:04,653 --> 01:33:06,625
Is to maintain existing canopies.

1453
01:33:06,625 --> 01:33:09,625
Maintain existing landscape where feasible.

1454
01:33:31,528 --> 01:33:32,236
>> Anything else?

1455
01:33:32,236 --> 01:33:37,360
>> Is that street slope towards the yacht club?

1456
01:33:44,300 --> 01:33:46,628
>> There's some areas where it does slope down I can't remember

1457
01:33:46,628 --> 01:33:47,676
off the top of my head.

1458
01:33:47,676 --> 01:33:50,366
One of those streets you do have two catch basins

1459
01:33:50,366 --> 01:33:52,908
that collect on the north and south side of that intersecting

1460
01:33:52,908 --> 01:33:52,909
street.

1461
01:33:52,909 --> 01:33:52,915
I want to say around 40th.

1462
01:33:52,915 --> 01:33:52,923
Everything's going to be sloping more towards that

1463
01:33:52,923 --> 01:33:52,927
as your whole point.

1464
01:33:52,927 --> 01:33:52,935
And from there it heads south towards 39th.

1465
01:33:52,935 --> 01:33:55,180
Some stuff flows from the yacht club down to 40th.

1466
01:33:55,180 --> 01:33:56,965
It pitch is midway by adjoining street

1467
01:33:56,965 --> 01:34:01,531
and collects in catch basin, and it's typically back to 39.

1468
01:34:01,531 --> 01:34:08,131
We get into that with the survey to see actual patterns.

1469
01:34:24,742 --> 01:34:27,974
>> And there's outfall into the canal--

1470
01:34:27,974 --> 01:34:29,599
>> On the two on 40th, they do collect.

1471
01:34:29,599 --> 01:34:29,605
I believe they go into infrastructure

1472
01:34:29,605 --> 01:34:29,619
on the west side of the road, then it does go under the canal.

1473
01:34:29,619 --> 01:34:29,627
There's another catch basin on the west side

1474
01:34:29,627 --> 01:34:29,634
of the intersection of 27th and 39th.

1475
01:34:29,634 --> 01:34:31,676
You'd have an existing catch basin there as well.

1476
01:34:31,676 --> 01:34:36,476
I'm not sure exactly where that one falls.

1477
01:34:50,803 --> 01:34:53,428
>> What I'm thinking is if less impact on everybody and make --

1478
01:34:53,428 --> 01:34:57,495
you curb the street on that side,

1479
01:34:57,495 --> 01:35:05,630
and now the water would end up in the catch basin if you have

1480
01:35:05,630 --> 01:35:10,430
to make the outfall pipe bigger (Indiscernible)--

1481
01:35:21,966 --> 01:35:24,633
and then it can maintain its own width at that point all the way

1482
01:35:24,633 --> 01:35:25,875
through.

1483
01:35:25,875 --> 01:35:29,475
Would that be something that might

1484
01:35:29,604 --> 01:35:32,604
be advantageous to look at?

1485
01:35:35,534 --> 01:35:36,205
>> Yes, and no.

1486
01:35:36,205 --> 01:35:38,330
Can I say that not to be flipped in that it creates

1487
01:35:38,330 --> 01:35:38,333
one continuous sidewalk.

1488
01:35:38,333 --> 01:35:38,339
One continuous condition down the street.

1489
01:35:38,339 --> 01:35:38,344
Knowing that everywhere we're trying

1490
01:35:38,344 --> 01:35:38,353
to peel the sidewalk off the road or areas

1491
01:35:38,353 --> 01:35:38,359
where there's runway to do it.

1492
01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:38,991
If you hug everything against the edge of the road

1493
01:35:38,991 --> 01:35:40,585
and create that curb condition, I

1494
01:35:40,585 --> 01:35:45,385
need a place to put that storm water.

1495
01:35:59,174 --> 01:36:01,216
It's really analyzing from a drainage standpoint.

1496
01:36:01,216 --> 01:36:01,225
I can't impact level of service for the residents.

1497
01:36:01,225 --> 01:36:01,233
Now we have to analyze and see what

1498
01:36:01,233 --> 01:36:01,241
does that curb condition do, and purposely ran

1499
01:36:01,241 --> 01:36:01,253
on the side of the road and do I need new drainage

1500
01:36:01,253 --> 01:36:01,878
infrastructure?

1501
01:36:01,878 --> 01:36:03,697
And then that introduces the capital cost

1502
01:36:03,697 --> 01:36:05,655
of them putting in the drainage infrastructure.

1503
01:36:05,655 --> 01:36:07,691
And then permitting and making sure that that

1504
01:36:07,691 --> 01:36:10,245
can tie into the existing outfall.

1505
01:36:10,245 --> 01:36:13,245
Anything is feasible. (Indiscernible)--

1506
01:36:32,176 --> 01:36:33,718
>> I guess the original question was,

1507
01:36:33,718 --> 01:36:33,726
because it all flowed towards the yacht club?

1508
01:36:33,726 --> 01:36:34,726
It doesn't end up there.

1509
01:36:34,726 --> 01:36:41,326
>> It doesn't go from 39 to the Yacht Club pier its ups

1510
01:36:42,806 --> 01:36:43,306
and Downs.

1511
01:36:43,306 --> 01:36:43,317
That's what I'm saying on 40th you do have some existing

1512
01:36:43,317 --> 01:36:45,859
drainage infrastructure that collects on that water that goes

1513
01:36:45,859 --> 01:36:47,289
to the low point.

1514
01:36:47,289 --> 01:36:53,889
And then it looks like it's getting collected at 39th under

1515
01:36:58,622 --> 01:37:00,622
39th Street.

1516
01:37:04,961 --> 01:37:07,961
>> I am a dog mom.

1517
01:37:08,182 --> 01:37:10,762
I walk my dog every night after work.

1518
01:37:10,762 --> 01:37:10,771
I see tons of my neighbors walking their dogs.

1519
01:37:10,771 --> 01:37:10,778
The majority of them use the sidewalk.

1520
01:37:10,778 --> 01:37:10,789
Anytime I see a street light that doesn't have a sidewalk,

1521
01:37:10,789 --> 01:37:13,561
it doesn't give dog walkers, joggers the opportunity

1522
01:37:13,561 --> 01:37:15,865
to get out of the line of traffic.

1523
01:37:15,865 --> 01:37:21,865
And if we're talking about increased traffic to an area,

1524
01:37:37,598 --> 01:37:39,723
I think we need to do what's best for the residents

1525
01:37:39,723 --> 01:37:42,723
and put the sidewalks in.

1526
01:37:54,810 --> 01:37:55,331
>> Sidewalks are always safer.

1527
01:37:55,331 --> 01:37:55,337
That's what it comes down to.

1528
01:37:55,337 --> 01:37:56,754
That's why we have a right of way.

1529
01:37:56,754 --> 01:37:59,154
>> My question is financial.

1530
01:38:02,269 --> 01:38:04,477
It sounds like this will proceed if they push forward

1531
01:38:04,477 --> 01:38:11,770
on its own track, independent of the development of the yacht

1532
01:38:15,950 --> 01:38:15,595
Club.

1533
01:38:15,595 --> 01:38:16,678
Are we fronting the money?

1534
01:38:16,678 --> 01:38:19,678
>> The development agreement that we--

1535
01:38:24,340 --> 01:38:27,940
>> So we can move (Indiscernible)--

1536
01:38:29,453 --> 01:38:32,125
Again, I think this is an amenity.

1537
01:38:32,125 --> 01:38:34,420
The yacht club has agreed to contribute to it.

1538
01:38:34,420 --> 01:38:34,540
I don't see why we wouldn't take this amenity that will help

1539
01:38:34,540 --> 01:38:35,179
many residents in the area.

1540
01:38:35,179 --> 01:38:38,779
My thought is to move forward.

1541
01:38:50,308 --> 01:38:53,308
Do we have consensus there?

1542
01:38:56,976 --> 01:38:58,976
>> I agree.

1543
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,600
>> All aboard?

1544
01:39:01,379 --> 01:39:01,936
>> If you're comfortable with the consensus rather than a full

1545
01:39:01,936 --> 01:39:03,853
motion, then we'll take the consensus and move

1546
01:39:03,853 --> 01:39:06,853
on to the next step.

1547
01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:13,910
>> (Indiscernible)--

1548
01:39:16,695 --> 01:39:19,112
>> I will say the one resident that was not in favor of it

1549
01:39:19,112 --> 01:39:21,512
raised good points about--

1550
01:39:24,759 --> 01:39:26,676
I do it respectfully a little bit differently.

1551
01:39:26,676 --> 01:39:28,551
Definitely doesn't solve the traffic problem.

1552
01:39:28,551 --> 01:39:33,351
It is another tool that will alleviate problems.

1553
01:39:38,786 --> 01:39:40,328
Moving people from the streets if you

1554
01:39:40,328 --> 01:39:44,528
have concerns about speeding and new cars--

1555
01:39:46,235 --> 01:39:47,943
it will hopefully alleviate those issues.

1556
01:39:47,943 --> 01:39:47,954
Which I think is what we had discussed when we contemplated.

1557
01:39:47,954 --> 01:39:47,962
In addition to the other traffic calming features.

1558
01:39:47,962 --> 01:39:47,964
Moving on.

1559
01:39:47,964 --> 01:39:47,966
New business.

1560
01:39:47,966 --> 01:39:49,341
Motion to approve the expenditure

1561
01:39:49,341 --> 01:39:53,541
of funds for municipal tree trimming services.

1562
01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:56,510
Operational Manager.

1563
01:40:20,425 --> 01:40:21,920
>> Good evening.

1564
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:21,101
That's the motion to approve the expenditure of funds

1565
01:40:21,101 --> 01:40:21,106
for municipal tree trimming service.

1566
01:40:21,106 --> 01:40:21,116
On the June 23rd, 2020 six, city Commission meeting city

1567
01:40:21,116 --> 01:40:25,185
anonymously approved resolution number 26-27-32 authorizing

1568
01:40:25,185 --> 01:40:29,385
agreements-- there's currently $109,000 remaining in the fiscal

1569
01:40:45,637 --> 01:40:50,437
year 2025 and 2026 general fund maintenance contracts to count.

1570
01:40:52,351 --> 01:40:54,592
We recommend the city's commission authorize

1571
01:40:54,592 --> 01:40:54,602
the expenditure of funds in the amount of approximately up

1572
01:40:54,602 --> 01:40:54,614
to $100,000 for the general fund for this fiscal year of tree

1573
01:40:54,614 --> 01:40:54,615
trimming.

1574
01:40:54,615 --> 01:40:57,730
Which I don't know if you've seen around the city recently,

1575
01:40:57,730 --> 01:41:02,473
City Hall, Dixon Hall, police department was done today.

1576
01:41:09,153 --> 01:41:10,695
It's all part of a separate contract.

1577
01:41:10,695 --> 01:41:12,362
This is going to be throughout the city.

1578
01:41:12,362 --> 01:41:14,437
We've already identified 16 spots

1579
01:41:14,437 --> 01:41:18,637
that we want to immediately get to.

1580
01:41:19,996 --> 01:41:21,913
Just don't want to keep coming back every time

1581
01:41:21,913 --> 01:41:23,121
and ask for money and do POS.

1582
01:41:23,121 --> 01:41:29,121
We can just do a continuous up to that amount.

1583
01:41:32,715 --> 01:41:35,715
>> Can we get a motion?

1584
01:41:39,422 --> 01:41:44,222
>> I'm sorry, I was looking at the resolution.

1585
01:41:44,794 --> 01:41:49,594
>> We're going to do $100,000 worth of tree trimming?

1586
01:41:51,580 --> 01:41:54,699
>> I'm planning on having crews here starting on Friday.

1587
01:41:54,699 --> 01:41:56,282
I've got estimates for about 16 areas.

1588
01:41:56,282 --> 01:41:56,284
About $72,000.

1589
01:41:56,284 --> 01:41:56,293
And then I want to get the side streets.

1590
01:41:56,293 --> 01:41:56,298
We're doing maintenance right now

1591
01:41:56,298 --> 01:41:57,965
from Federal Highway on Lighthouse Point

1592
01:41:57,965 --> 01:41:59,263
Drive to the City Limited.

1593
01:41:59,263 --> 01:42:02,263
39th Street of Sample Road.

1594
01:42:08,472 --> 01:42:11,970
Which we probably haven't done federal highway in 5 or 6 years.

1595
01:42:11,970 --> 01:42:11,103
Have you read the Federal Highway,

1596
01:42:11,103 --> 01:42:11,111
you can see what needs to be done.

1597
01:42:11,111 --> 01:42:11,122
That's all part of the third phase of this third project

1598
01:42:11,122 --> 01:42:11,830
we want to start.

1599
01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:17,830
And with the remainder money, before the 1st of October,

1600
01:42:25,210 --> 01:42:27,793
I want to get a lot of the side streets where we can keep that

1601
01:42:27,793 --> 01:42:30,376
15 foot clearance and eight foot clearance over the sidewalks.

1602
01:42:30,376 --> 01:42:33,976
Hopefully before October 1st, we'll spend $100,000.

1603
01:42:43,999 --> 01:42:45,707
>> And then you'll come and ask for more?

1604
01:42:45,707 --> 01:42:48,107
>> Trees continue to grow.

1605
01:42:48,921 --> 01:42:51,878
>> This is for any tree that's hanging over into city property?

1606
01:42:51,878 --> 01:42:54,880
>> All of our trees right now over point drive,

1607
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:55,880
state law requires 13 to 14 foot clearance.

1608
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:55,893
We're going to go to 15 just so we don't have to continuously

1609
01:42:55,893 --> 01:42:56,810
cut month after month.

1610
01:42:56,810 --> 01:42:59,810
>> Just on Lighthouse Point Drive?

1611
01:43:08,412 --> 01:43:12,366
>> No, our main point is going to be Lighthouse Point Drive.

1612
01:43:12,366 --> 01:43:12,376
We haven't done that in probably 6 or 7 years.

1613
01:43:12,376 --> 01:43:12,381
When somebody calls and complaints,

1614
01:43:12,381 --> 01:43:12,393
that's when we go out and cut that area to the height.

1615
01:43:12,393 --> 01:43:12,401
We want to try to alleviate that now.

1616
01:43:12,401 --> 01:43:12,408
Got a maintenance schedule now that we

1617
01:43:12,408 --> 01:43:12,416
have a tree trimming company, which we've never

1618
01:43:12,416 --> 01:43:13,374
had in the city before.

1619
01:43:13,374 --> 01:43:17,574
We've never had a contracted tree company.

1620
01:43:18,105 --> 01:43:20,105
We want to start a maintenance program with them

1621
01:43:20,105 --> 01:43:22,301
to where they can come through and identify it, make

1622
01:43:22,301 --> 01:43:30,101
sure we're in agreement with it and approve it to get it cut.

1623
01:43:42,629 --> 01:43:43,902
We will get to side streets.

1624
01:43:43,902 --> 01:43:45,610
Our main purpose and the main thing right

1625
01:43:45,610 --> 01:43:47,818
now is things that haven't been done in 6 or 7 years.

1626
01:43:47,818 --> 01:43:56,218
And to get to that state level, state law where it needs to be.

1627
01:44:01,573 --> 01:44:04,346
>> a canopy is nice and provides shade.

1628
01:44:04,346 --> 01:44:05,138
I'm thinking of 49.

1629
01:44:05,138 --> 01:44:07,138
Can you trim those in a way that keeps the dome?

1630
01:44:07,138 --> 01:44:12,538
>> I want to say this in a nice way.

1631
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:33,800
[Laughter] We are going to try and shape those trees that FP&L

1632
01:44:34,148 --> 01:44:36,190
has destroyed over the years to where we can keep

1633
01:44:36,190 --> 01:44:36,202
the canopy of that area and the esthetics of how you drive

1634
01:44:36,202 --> 01:44:38,535
through it, looking like it's a canopy type area driving

1635
01:44:38,535 --> 01:44:45,735
through, but reshaped the trees at the same time for the damage

1636
01:44:47,446 --> 01:44:48,404
they have done to them.

1637
01:44:48,404 --> 01:44:50,362
And we are going to continue to try to do that.

1638
01:44:50,362 --> 01:44:53,362
>> I'm not a tree cutter.

1639
01:44:54,457 --> 01:44:55,957
And as I've said many times up here,

1640
01:44:55,957 --> 01:44:55,966
I'm not good at visualizing these types of things.

1641
01:44:55,966 --> 01:44:55,978
I could visualize them, can I keep going back to 49th Street

1642
01:44:55,978 --> 01:44:55,984
where you almost maintain the 15ft.

1643
01:44:55,984 --> 01:44:56,100
I know we're not talking about 49th Street yet,

1644
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:59,250
but you've got to cut a hole in the canopy to get the clearance.

1645
01:44:59,250 --> 01:45:01,825
Is that at least feasible that we might have to do that?

1646
01:45:01,825 --> 01:45:09,250
>> We're going to do the best we can to keep the canopy

1647
01:45:21,894 --> 01:45:25,494
of the trees at the 15 foot.

1648
01:45:29,293 --> 01:45:31,293
As long --

1649
01:45:34,902 --> 01:45:36,235
>> As long as it's contemplated.

1650
01:45:36,235 --> 01:45:41,635
You know everybody's going to go crazy once they

1651
01:45:42,984 --> 01:45:45,384
see cutting these trees.

1652
01:45:47,864 --> 01:45:48,947
>> It's been long overdue.

1653
01:45:48,947 --> 01:45:52,390
>> The idea is we're trying to get up before our major

1654
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:56,590
hurricane season portion, cleaning out of it.

1655
01:45:57,369 --> 01:46:03,369
And we got a real storm here with the window,

1656
01:46:06,793 --> 01:46:09,600
less opportunity for them to--

1657
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,850
>> There some trees on Lighthouse Point Drive now that

1658
01:46:11,850 --> 01:46:11,861
the county has brought to our attention that need to be

1659
01:46:11,861 --> 01:46:13,861
removed.

1660
01:46:14,464 --> 01:46:16,464
They are dead.

1661
01:46:20,531 --> 01:46:22,281
They're hollow on the inside from diseases

1662
01:46:22,281 --> 01:46:23,739
and everything else over the years.

1663
01:46:23,739 --> 01:46:29,139
They're going to allow us to cut those down.

1664
01:46:29,629 --> 01:46:32,870
>> They're mostly the Laurel Oaks that have a 50 year shelf

1665
01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:32,880
life.

1666
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:32,100
Those Laurel oaks have less of a lifespan than a regular oak

1667
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:32,101
tree.

1668
01:46:32,101 --> 01:46:32,110
It sounds crazy, but it may look very similar

1669
01:46:32,110 --> 01:46:32,119
to you can tell there's a difference in them.

1670
01:46:32,119 --> 01:46:34,452
Those are the ones that are having those rotting issues.

1671
01:46:34,452 --> 01:46:40,452
And you can see that the house right between 33rd,

1672
01:46:58,384 --> 01:47:06,784
I call it the Blue tree because it has a little flower on it.

1673
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:12,479
>> And you just come out and test them?

1674
01:47:14,622 --> 01:47:17,164
>> (Indiscernible)-- I promise you Jim will do what he can do

1675
01:47:17,164 --> 01:47:19,372
within his power because the county will be watching.

1676
01:47:19,372 --> 01:47:26,572
>> So the ones that come down, that's going to get done first

1677
01:47:32,161 --> 01:47:33,828
before we spend the money on that first?

1678
01:47:33,828 --> 01:47:40,428
>> They're going to be part of the Lighthouse Point drive part,

1679
01:47:45,300 --> 01:47:48,418
which those are the trees already causing sidewalk

1680
01:47:48,418 --> 01:47:50,418
problems, roadway issues.

1681
01:47:52,650 --> 01:47:55,650
It's their time to go.

1682
01:47:58,185 --> 01:48:00,185
Any questions?

1683
01:48:00,658 --> 01:48:02,991
>> So the trees that they're planting in the swells over

1684
01:48:02,991 --> 01:48:06,591
the sidewalks, that's the city's responsibility?

1685
01:48:10,931 --> 01:48:16,931
>> Again, I'll try to say it in a nice way.

1686
01:48:18,158 --> 01:48:24,158
A lot of trees years ago had to be planted.

1687
01:48:24,359 --> 01:48:25,984
The city got in trouble a long time ago

1688
01:48:25,984 --> 01:48:25,990
for cutting too many trees down.

1689
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:26,000
They were told they had to put trees back in.

1690
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:26,700
That's where all these trees came from.

1691
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:26,190
I think there were thousands of trees that had to be replanted.

1692
01:48:26,190 --> 01:48:26,270
They were put in the right of way.

1693
01:48:26,270 --> 01:48:26,340
Wherever we had room to do that.

1694
01:48:26,340 --> 01:48:26,502
And those that are the ones that are going

1695
01:48:26,502 --> 01:48:28,305
to come back to harm us now.

1696
01:48:28,305 --> 01:48:33,705
The tree right away, trees in right of ways,

1697
01:48:49,484 --> 01:48:51,899
some are allowed and some aren't.

1698
01:48:51,899 --> 01:48:53,316
The ones that we are allowing now,

1699
01:48:53,316 --> 01:48:53,321
it's put into the homeowner.

1700
01:48:53,321 --> 01:48:53,325
That is their true.

1701
01:48:53,325 --> 01:48:53,332
Anything happens in their right of way,

1702
01:48:53,332 --> 01:48:55,400
they're responsible for any city projects

1703
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,693
that might be in that right of way that's caused by that tree.

1704
01:48:58,693 --> 01:49:02,293
They are going to be retired.

1705
01:49:11,726 --> 01:49:12,934
Required to fix those issues.

1706
01:49:12,934 --> 01:49:15,170
There are agreements and letters assigned to that.

1707
01:49:15,170 --> 01:49:18,170
>> Can I get a motion?

1708
01:49:23,403 --> 01:49:26,611
>> I'll make a motion to approve the expenditures of up

1709
01:49:26,611 --> 01:49:31,138
to $200,000 from the General Fund for municipal tree trimming

1710
01:49:31,138 --> 01:49:33,138
services.

1711
01:49:35,810 --> 01:49:37,126
>> Second.

1712
01:49:37,126 --> 01:49:41,926
>> All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

1713
01:49:44,608 --> 01:49:46,608
Motion passes 4-0.

1714
01:49:47,565 --> 01:49:49,857
>> You said we're going to have a tree trimming service

1715
01:49:49,857 --> 01:49:50,357
tomorrow?

1716
01:49:50,357 --> 01:49:54,557
>> Moving on. https://coconutc reek.granicus.co

1717
01:50:03,396 --> 01:50:04,604
m/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=1

1718
01:50:04,604 --> 01:50:07,332
https://coconutc reek.granicus.co

1719
01:50:07,332 --> 01:50:08,698
m/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=1

1720
01:50:08,698 --> 01:50:11,698
https://coconutc reek.granicus.co

1721
01:50:18,310 --> 01:50:20,500
m/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=1

1722
01:50:20,500 --> 01:50:23,125
Resolution approving the First Amendment (Facilities Amendment)

1723
01:50:23,125 --> 01:50:23,133
to the Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Disposal

1724
01:50:23,133 --> 01:50:24,591
and Recyclable Materials Processing

1725
01:50:24,591 --> 01:50:26,991
Authority of Broward County.

1726
01:50:27,202 --> 01:50:31,402
>> (Indiscernible)-- Approval of the facilities amendment

1727
01:50:51,495 --> 01:50:53,895
represents the final step.

1728
01:50:57,829 --> 01:51:02,290
Confirming the city's participation in the Broward's

1729
01:51:12,509 --> 01:51:14,510
Holloway's authority for 40 year term

1730
01:51:14,510 --> 01:51:16,510
extended through August 2063.

1731
01:51:18,490 --> 01:51:23,449
Based on the ILA effective date of August 16th, 2020.

1732
01:51:35,348 --> 01:51:38,739
(Indiscernible)-- there's a companion second amendment

1733
01:51:38,739 --> 01:51:41,156
on this agenda that provides participating municipalities.

1734
01:51:41,156 --> 01:51:45,356
Two opportunities to withdraw from (Indiscernible)--

1735
01:51:46,644 --> 01:51:51,444
the first opportunity following the recommendation of the--

1736
01:51:55,519 --> 01:51:56,227
November of 2027.

1737
01:51:56,227 --> 01:51:58,310
The second opportunity is available after 25 years

1738
01:51:58,310 --> 01:52:00,310
in August 2048.

1739
01:52:09,688 --> 01:52:11,855
It should be noted that for 2027, opt out provisions

1740
01:52:11,855 --> 01:52:13,897
are no longer contingent upon the maximum service

1741
01:52:13,897 --> 01:52:18,970
charges proposed by the disposal processing facilities--

1742
01:52:21,835 --> 01:52:27,235
before deciding whether to remain in the (Indiscernible)--

1743
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,479
facilities must be approved and returned to-- no later than this

1744
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:35,271
Friday August 14th.

1745
01:52:35,271 --> 01:52:37,813
The estimated fiscal impact that the city of Lighthouse Point

1746
01:52:37,813 --> 01:52:41,413
of participating in the solid waste--

1747
01:52:42,502 --> 01:52:46,102
it's approximately 12,561.20 dollars For fiscal year 2027.

1748
01:53:07,648 --> 01:53:09,815
(Indiscernible)-- intended to provide long term cost

1749
01:53:09,815 --> 01:53:14,150
predictability while supporting regional solid waste disposal

1750
01:53:17,488 --> 01:53:19,488
recycling.

1751
01:53:19,621 --> 01:53:21,329
Approval of the Second Amendment does not

1752
01:53:21,329 --> 01:53:21,335
create any additional direct fiscal impact

1753
01:53:21,335 --> 01:53:21,343
and provides the city with future withdrawal options.

1754
01:53:21,343 --> 01:53:21,349
Following the authority's initial procurement process,

1755
01:53:21,349 --> 01:53:21,355
in 2027 and again in 2048.

1756
01:53:21,355 --> 01:53:23,605
Requesting that the City Commission consider approving

1757
01:53:23,605 --> 01:53:29,500
the resolution contingent on all of the participating cities,

1758
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:53,640
approving the revised Second Amendment Pier adopting the --

1759
01:53:56,135 --> 01:53:58,600
(Indiscernible).

1760
01:53:58,600 --> 01:53:58,700
I want to bring one more issue to your attention

1761
01:53:58,700 --> 01:53:58,770
before I turn this over to you.

1762
01:53:58,770 --> 01:54:00,244
I had a recent meeting at the Spring City Commission

1763
01:54:00,244 --> 01:54:02,244
solid waste Authority--

1764
01:54:12,236 --> 01:54:14,903
Representatives were asked about possible extensions for the RFP

1765
01:54:14,903 --> 01:54:14,912
process that could potentially affect the opt out date

1766
01:54:14,912 --> 01:54:14,916
in the Second Amendment.

1767
01:54:14,916 --> 01:54:17,208
The solid Waste Authority reiterated that Friday August

1768
01:54:17,208 --> 01:54:22,800
15th deadline for approval of the Facilities Agreement--

1769
01:54:29,591 --> 01:54:34,340
and the Council explained that the Second Amendment was

1770
01:54:34,340 --> 01:54:35,826
intended to provide flexibility to opt out.

1771
01:54:35,826 --> 01:54:42,426
Equity RFP to recommended -- the way the amendment is currently

1772
01:54:49,528 --> 01:54:52,295
drafted, the executive Committee has to recommend an award

1773
01:54:52,295 --> 01:54:52,300
by November 15th of 2027.

1774
01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:54,902
The provision of concern is that if there is a need

1775
01:54:54,902 --> 01:54:59,102
to extend the process, the governing Board

1776
01:55:03,323 --> 01:55:05,281
can approve extensions by six month increments.

1777
01:55:05,281 --> 01:55:05,286
Solid Waste Authority counsel advised

1778
01:55:05,286 --> 01:55:07,119
that there is likely to be a third Amendment

1779
01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:10,719
to include changes related to governance,

1780
01:55:14,190 --> 01:55:16,190
but will also include a finite extension period.

1781
01:55:16,190 --> 01:55:18,773
Should that be the appetite of the executive and the governing

1782
01:55:18,773 --> 01:55:19,968
board.

1783
01:55:19,968 --> 01:55:24,768
After the discussion, the city of Coral Springs

1784
01:55:28,361 --> 01:55:33,161
in the City Commission did approve the amendments.

1785
01:55:34,249 --> 01:55:36,410
So I know we have some representatives here

1786
01:55:36,410 --> 01:55:38,541
that can speak about this issue in the potential for a Third

1787
01:55:38,541 --> 01:55:43,341
Amendment and the timing of any possible extensions

1788
01:55:47,476 --> 01:55:48,184
(Indiscernible)--

1789
01:55:48,184 --> 01:55:50,309
and then we turn it over to you to discuss and make

1790
01:55:50,309 --> 01:55:52,309
a determination.

1791
01:55:59,425 --> 01:56:01,675
>> Do you want to hear from the representatives first?

1792
01:56:01,675 --> 01:56:03,217
Is someone going to make a motion to?

1793
01:56:03,217 --> 01:56:06,817
>> I'll make a motion to read.

1794
01:56:10,164 --> 01:56:11,665
>> Second.

1795
01:56:11,665 --> 01:56:15,865
>> (Indiscernible)-- this resolution does provide that

1796
01:56:20,530 --> 01:56:22,261
the approval of this specific amendment is contingent

1797
01:56:22,261 --> 01:56:22,268
on the Second Amendment also being approved.

1798
01:56:22,268 --> 01:56:22,277
That has to be approved unanimously by all cities.

1799
01:56:22,277 --> 01:56:22,289
So that is a condition that that segment be approved and put

1800
01:56:22,289 --> 01:56:22,789
into effect.

1801
01:56:22,789 --> 01:56:28,189
>> I believe all cities have approved the Second amendment.

1802
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,680
>> There may be one more. (Indiscernible)--

1803
01:57:03,126 --> 01:57:05,126
>> Any questions?

1804
01:57:08,178 --> 01:57:09,995
>> I have a comment.

1805
01:57:09,995 --> 01:57:14,795
When they gave presentation, a lot of this

1806
01:57:17,284 --> 01:57:18,159
depends on recycling.

1807
01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:21,426
I know that I've continually try to get people to recycle.

1808
01:57:21,426 --> 01:57:23,968
I believe that if we agree this and to go there, we as a city

1809
01:57:23,968 --> 01:57:29,368
need to really get people involved in a recycling.

1810
01:57:36,335 --> 01:57:43,226
On the way out today, my section of the city was being picked up,

1811
01:57:43,226 --> 01:57:46,157
and probably 10 to 12 or maybe 15% of the houses

1812
01:57:46,157 --> 01:57:47,449
didn't have recycling cans out.

1813
01:57:47,449 --> 01:57:52,760
I think that we need to as a city

1814
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:53,576
have code enforcement while they are

1815
01:57:53,576 --> 01:57:53,585
in and around the city on the trash days

1816
01:57:53,585 --> 01:57:55,891
that recycling is being picked up.

1817
01:57:55,891 --> 01:58:01,291
Make note of the houses that don't have recycling.

1818
01:58:11,150 --> 01:58:18,215
And then through some kind of nice , why don't you do this,

1819
01:58:24,305 --> 01:58:26,351
letter communication with those residents.

1820
01:58:26,351 --> 01:58:26,356
Maybe they don't have cans.

1821
01:58:26,356 --> 01:58:26,361
Maybe they don't pay attention.

1822
01:58:26,361 --> 01:58:26,365
Maybe they don't care.

1823
01:58:26,365 --> 01:58:26,373
But maybe we try to make some cares

1824
01:58:26,373 --> 01:58:26,381
so we can get more recycling numbers up

1825
01:58:26,381 --> 01:58:26,387
to where they need to be.

1826
01:58:26,387 --> 01:58:26,392
I think that's very important.

1827
01:58:26,392 --> 01:58:28,934
I think the presentation that was given was a lot about that,

1828
01:58:28,934 --> 01:58:31,334
having to have recycling.

1829
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:35,408
That is my spiel.

1830
01:58:50,551 --> 01:58:51,509
Voting for it was fine.

1831
01:58:51,509 --> 01:58:51,518
I think that we need to as a city

1832
01:58:51,518 --> 01:58:51,528
try to get people to recycle more than they do.

1833
01:58:51,528 --> 01:58:51,540
I know my neighbor across the street said, I don't do that.

1834
01:58:51,540 --> 01:58:51,545
Why don't you do that?

1835
01:58:51,545 --> 01:58:52,670
It's the right thing to do.

1836
01:58:52,670 --> 01:58:54,670
He puts cardboard.

1837
01:59:16,698 --> 01:59:19,240
>> I said I'm sure a new tax will make him recycle even more.

1838
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,240
>> Maybe.

1839
01:59:22,951 --> 01:59:25,351
He probably doesn't care.

1840
01:59:27,151 --> 01:59:28,526
I go by this one house constantly

1841
01:59:28,526 --> 01:59:28,538
and they have boxes out, but they don't have a recycling can.

1842
01:59:28,538 --> 01:59:28,546
Maybe they just don't have one, but they

1843
01:59:28,546 --> 01:59:28,557
constantly put cardboard boxes out and put them in the can.

1844
01:59:28,557 --> 01:59:30,349
That's a little thing that we should really

1845
01:59:30,349 --> 01:59:31,587
start to try to do.

1846
01:59:31,587 --> 01:59:38,787
And to not put more work on code enforcement, but it's around

1847
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:49,714
and they see this and make note of that.

1848
01:59:49,714 --> 01:59:51,506
And I'm sure we have somebody on staff that

1849
01:59:51,506 --> 01:59:59,306
can make a nice letter and say, could you help us out here?

1850
02:00:01,882 --> 02:00:03,340
We're trying to do the right thing.

1851
02:00:03,340 --> 02:00:04,215
That's what I've got.

1852
02:00:04,215 --> 02:00:08,415
>> I guess I should have a question.

1853
02:00:15,506 --> 02:00:20,306
The first year, the fiscal amounts estimated at 12561.

1854
02:00:24,285 --> 02:00:25,670
>> Correct.

1855
02:00:25,670 --> 02:00:28,295
>> The opt out is in 27 before the next amount we know is going

1856
02:00:28,295 --> 02:00:31,727
to be-- does that make sense?

1857
02:00:31,727 --> 02:00:36,430
>> It's going to be around the same time that it's coming out.

1858
02:00:36,430 --> 02:00:38,460
>> So we won't be able to opt out for 25 years after that?

1859
02:00:38,460 --> 02:00:38,462
>> Correct.

1860
02:00:38,462 --> 02:00:38,474
>> I guess my concern would be that we really don't know

1861
02:00:38,474 --> 02:00:40,432
the true financial impact after the first year.

1862
02:00:40,432 --> 02:00:44,320
>> I'm the executive director for Broward--

1863
02:00:52,556 --> 02:00:54,980
I want to apologize for the last time I came here.

1864
02:00:54,980 --> 02:00:54,990
I was always on board with the Solid Waste Authority.

1865
02:00:54,990 --> 02:00:54,996
I didn't even know Commissioner Stafford.

1866
02:00:54,996 --> 02:00:55,600
I just want to let you know that the Second

1867
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:55,100
Amendment, and Commissioner Stafford

1868
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:55,200
has been very instrumental on the governing board for us.

1869
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:55,280
The Second Amendment came about from the conversation

1870
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:56,653
that happened here at Lighthouse Point.

1871
02:00:56,653 --> 02:00:59,588
A small as you said it is, it was instrumental in bringing

1872
02:00:59,588 --> 02:01:01,171
about the Second Amendment because you

1873
02:01:01,171 --> 02:01:02,921
guys were the ones who talked about having

1874
02:01:02,921 --> 02:01:04,567
a way to get out of this.

1875
02:01:04,567 --> 02:01:12,367
It was drafted up to come up with a way to get out.

1876
02:01:27,390 --> 02:01:31,962
Anyway, You're talking about the dollar amount and the surcharge

1877
02:01:31,962 --> 02:01:36,162
and how much that's going to cost.

1878
02:01:42,865 --> 02:01:45,350
When you join the authority, You signed the First Amendment

1879
02:01:45,350 --> 02:01:46,392
and the Second Amendment.

1880
02:01:46,392 --> 02:01:46,401
You start enjoying the rates that you are receiving.

1881
02:01:46,401 --> 02:01:46,407
What you receive right now, that's

1882
02:01:46,407 --> 02:01:47,615
part of the global agreement.

1883
02:01:47,615 --> 02:01:53,150
You'll continue to be able to-- and if they're

1884
02:01:58,838 --> 02:02:00,707
different than that, you can say we

1885
02:02:00,707 --> 02:02:01,957
don't want to be part of this.

1886
02:02:01,957 --> 02:02:01,968
Southwest ranches are part of the global agreement. $87 a ton.

1887
02:02:01,968 --> 02:02:03,718
If you take that, you're paying $87 a ton.

1888
02:02:03,718 --> 02:02:09,118
If you take that difference, and their bulk weight--

1889
02:02:19,248 --> 02:02:22,848
if you were paying Southwest ranch--

1890
02:02:30,568 --> 02:02:32,526
you would be paying about $220,000 a year more.

1891
02:02:32,526 --> 02:02:32,530
Based on their rates.

1892
02:02:32,530 --> 02:02:32,539
I'm not saying that's a scare you or anything.

1893
02:02:32,539 --> 02:02:33,581
That's the reality of it.

1894
02:02:33,581 --> 02:02:39,581
Say it could cost you 15,000 or so more a year,

1895
02:02:50,126 --> 02:02:52,945
that's versus $200,000 if you're paying what southwest ranches

1896
02:02:52,945 --> 02:02:53,653
paying right now.

1897
02:02:53,653 --> 02:02:55,320
Miami Dade is average $84 a ton for MSW.

1898
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:58,920
49, that's what the global agreement is.

1899
02:03:07,455 --> 02:03:08,913
That's the maximum service charges.

1900
02:03:08,913 --> 02:03:08,925
We're hoping to get and more likely to get for the MSW.

1901
02:03:08,925 --> 02:03:08,933
That cost will be offset by the savings

1902
02:03:08,933 --> 02:03:08,942
that you're going to get by a large factor.

1903
02:03:08,942 --> 02:03:08,955
That in itself, you look at how much it's going to cost you,

1904
02:03:08,955 --> 02:03:09,280
you'll be able to get that back.

1905
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:10,570
And you will see that rate come back.

1906
02:03:10,570 --> 02:03:16,570
If that rate is $87 when it comes back to you,

1907
02:03:20,887 --> 02:03:25,687
this is-- that's what the opt out will

1908
02:03:38,135 --> 02:03:42,335
be able to allow you to do.

1909
02:03:43,511 --> 02:03:44,784
>> Anything else?

1910
02:03:44,784 --> 02:03:46,617
I just had a lot of reservations about this.

1911
02:03:46,617 --> 02:03:46,624
The free peak is tempting for me.

1912
02:03:46,624 --> 02:03:46,633
I call it the free peak at the rates.

1913
02:03:46,633 --> 02:03:50,250
I spent a lot of time on the master plan after we met.

1914
02:03:50,250 --> 02:03:53,710
I'm articulating this so you can carry it to the group

1915
02:03:53,710 --> 02:03:54,305
or whatever.

1916
02:03:54,305 --> 02:04:00,305
In the spirit of actually trying to make this work.

1917
02:04:00,862 --> 02:04:04,462
I'm not in favor of it.

1918
02:04:23,649 --> 02:04:25,283
That master plan, if I read it right

1919
02:04:25,283 --> 02:04:26,616
then I know you didn't draft it.

1920
02:04:26,616 --> 02:04:32,531
If I could boil it down, it said of these three options, here

1921
02:04:32,531 --> 02:04:34,198
is the best option to try and get to 75%

1922
02:04:34,198 --> 02:04:35,406
recycling, which is the goal.

1923
02:04:35,406 --> 02:04:41,406
What it doesn't say-- but it basically says is here's

1924
02:04:49,535 --> 02:04:51,368
the most likely way to achieve an objective,

1925
02:04:51,368 --> 02:04:54,379
but nowhere I've seen in all of the years

1926
02:04:54,379 --> 02:04:55,796
that these bodies have spent doing

1927
02:04:55,796 --> 02:04:55,806
it is any analysis as to whether that objective is

1928
02:04:55,806 --> 02:04:55,809
achievable at all.

1929
02:04:55,809 --> 02:04:57,309
Just 75% is to kind of unleash this.

1930
02:04:57,309 --> 02:05:01,784
I know you're going to tell me it's not a big organization.

1931
02:05:01,784 --> 02:05:07,184
It's something as monumental as this, with basically signing

1932
02:05:11,506 --> 02:05:13,714
on to something where we would potentially be letting

1933
02:05:13,714 --> 02:05:13,721
other cities have a say in obligating

1934
02:05:13,721 --> 02:05:13,729
the city of Lighthouse Point on the future

1935
02:05:13,729 --> 02:05:16,354
with how we deal with our trash, other expensive infrastructure

1936
02:05:16,354 --> 02:05:20,554
that might be needed to achieve the 75%.

1937
02:05:39,695 --> 02:05:41,885
Without some experts telling me that the objective,

1938
02:05:41,885 --> 02:05:44,427
as noble as it may be, and I do not agree with the objective,

1939
02:05:44,427 --> 02:05:44,433
is feasible or likely to happen.

1940
02:05:44,433 --> 02:05:45,266
That's a big number.

1941
02:05:45,266 --> 02:05:49,466
We've never seen recycling numbers like that.

1942
02:05:51,953 --> 02:05:55,553
I just can't swallow that pill.

1943
02:05:56,965 --> 02:05:59,365
>> They are close to 90%.

1944
02:05:59,422 --> 02:06:00,714
On Beach County is another one.

1945
02:06:00,714 --> 02:06:00,716
Extremely high.

1946
02:06:00,716 --> 02:06:00,721
Recycling that you're seeing it's

1947
02:06:00,721 --> 02:06:00,728
not the recycling that you're putting out

1948
02:06:00,728 --> 02:06:01,686
in front of your house.

1949
02:06:01,686 --> 02:06:08,286
The big ticket on that recycling is C and D. Construction

1950
02:06:21,574 --> 02:06:22,324
demolition debris.

1951
02:06:22,324 --> 02:06:24,407
What you put in front of your house, that's great.

1952
02:06:24,407 --> 02:06:26,807
>> Construction and demolition debris,

1953
02:06:28,703 --> 02:06:29,911
that's what moves the needle.

1954
02:06:29,911 --> 02:06:29,922
What you put in front of your house is extremely important.

1955
02:06:29,922 --> 02:06:29,926
Don't get me wrong.

1956
02:06:29,926 --> 02:06:31,510
I try to do the best I can.

1957
02:06:31,510 --> 02:06:33,451
I've always done that.

1958
02:06:38,783 --> 02:06:44,183
I was a public works director for many years

1959
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:45,430
in Broward County.

1960
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:46,388
I always try to do the.

1961
02:06:46,388 --> 02:06:51,923
>> There's so many assumptions in that master plan to achieve

1962
02:06:51,923 --> 02:06:52,423
that 75%.

1963
02:06:52,423 --> 02:06:52,429
I know you didn't do it.

1964
02:06:52,429 --> 02:06:52,438
There's so many things out of anybody's control..

1965
02:06:52,438 --> 02:06:55,353
Is there going to be a market for this?

1966
02:06:55,353 --> 02:06:58,953
My understanding of that master plan

1967
02:07:04,620 --> 02:07:06,995
is anything that doesn't make it a landfill is recycling.

1968
02:07:06,995 --> 02:07:07,100
We are running out of space.

1969
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:07,800
But people are talking about waste energy.

1970
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:07,190
Have you told them waste energy we're going to burn trash,

1971
02:07:07,190 --> 02:07:07,240
they're going to freak out.

1972
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:07,410
Some people think that's not environmental at all.

1973
02:07:07,410 --> 02:07:08,545
I happen to actually not necessarily disagree with them.

1974
02:07:08,545 --> 02:07:10,740
But that's not necessarily recycling.

1975
02:07:10,740 --> 02:07:13,345
With all due respect, all the time and effort

1976
02:07:13,345 --> 02:07:15,838
that went into the master plan, doesn't have enough meat

1977
02:07:15,838 --> 02:07:16,977
to convince me to obligate.

1978
02:07:16,977 --> 02:07:21,177
And I'm probably in the minority here.

1979
02:07:44,367 --> 02:07:47,870
It was tempting with the peak.

1980
02:07:47,870 --> 02:07:49,995
I need a little more meat on the bone to get their.

1981
02:07:49,995 --> 02:07:50,300
And I really tried to simplify these issues.

1982
02:07:50,300 --> 02:07:51,378
They are very complicated issues.

1983
02:07:51,378 --> 02:07:53,486
Do I have it right--

1984
02:07:53,486 --> 02:07:59,486
I just don't see a big difference between this SWA

1985
02:08:06,420 --> 02:08:07,974
and what we have now with the ILA

1986
02:08:07,974 --> 02:08:10,384
other than these recycling centers.

1987
02:08:10,384 --> 02:08:14,700
That's a lot of money to build recycling centers.

1988
02:08:14,700 --> 02:08:17,352
Again, this is simpleton Jason logic.

1989
02:08:17,352 --> 02:08:19,190
We have enough problems educating people

1990
02:08:19,190 --> 02:08:19,300
to get people to recycle when this stuff's right in front

1991
02:08:19,300 --> 02:08:19,655
of their house.

1992
02:08:19,655 --> 02:08:22,550
I just don't know.

1993
02:08:25,170 --> 02:08:28,143
I take your point about C and D and residential

1994
02:08:28,143 --> 02:08:29,518
and not really moving the needle.

1995
02:08:29,518 --> 02:08:33,380
>> Not as big as the commercial.

1996
02:08:33,380 --> 02:08:34,580
I don't see why all of this is needed

1997
02:08:34,580 --> 02:08:38,780
on the big push was bargaining power

1998
02:08:45,722 --> 02:08:48,967
to take on the big players in this space

1999
02:08:48,967 --> 02:08:55,295
when we had that bargaining power, when we had the ILA.

2000
02:08:55,295 --> 02:08:56,295
You're happy to respond.

2001
02:08:56,295 --> 02:08:58,832
>> A global agreement's going away.

2002
02:08:58,832 --> 02:08:59,624
It expires in 2028.

2003
02:08:59,624 --> 02:08:59,632
Those prices are set by the global agreement.

2004
02:08:59,632 --> 02:09:01,257
Those are the prices we're shooting to.

2005
02:09:01,257 --> 02:09:06,657
>> I understand, but the global agreement wasn't as draconian.

2006
02:09:08,156 --> 02:09:09,656
And it wasn't a draconian as to what

2007
02:09:09,656 --> 02:09:09,662
we're being asked to sign now.

2008
02:09:09,662 --> 02:09:09,672
And I really articulate that because in talking about this

2009
02:09:09,672 --> 02:09:09,680
over the years, I wasn't at the meetings,

2010
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:09,688
I was never on the board, which I

2011
02:09:09,688 --> 02:09:10,980
couldn't have been on the time.

2012
02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:16,380
I don't feel like there was enough devil's advocate

2013
02:09:17,234 --> 02:09:19,234
on there.

2014
02:09:27,413 --> 02:09:29,413
Maybe I'm wrong.

2015
02:09:36,556 --> 02:09:37,598
I wasn't at the meetings.

2016
02:09:37,598 --> 02:09:37,603
Because the objective is noble.

2017
02:09:37,603 --> 02:09:39,811
We're going to spend so much time and effort on this.

2018
02:09:39,811 --> 02:09:44,273
I just don't know if we know what that goal--

2019
02:09:44,273 --> 02:09:47,273
if that goal is feasible.

2020
02:09:56,665 --> 02:09:57,582
Those are my concerns.

2021
02:09:57,582 --> 02:10:00,757
>> That's your mayor brought up a fishing analogy related

2022
02:10:00,757 --> 02:10:02,882
to fishing the last time, and I thought about that.

2023
02:10:02,882 --> 02:10:02,891
I've had a boat at the Lighthouse Point Marina

2024
02:10:02,891 --> 02:10:02,895
for over ten years.

2025
02:10:02,895 --> 02:10:04,620
I fish a lot and dive a lot.

2026
02:10:04,620 --> 02:10:08,862
I'm a fisherman and a diver, lobsterman, fisherman

2027
02:10:17,776 --> 02:10:18,901
and all that kind of stuff.

2028
02:10:18,901 --> 02:10:22,501
I thought about what you're saying,

2029
02:10:23,233 --> 02:10:25,775
and it's kind of like if you go to Tyler who's the bait guide

2030
02:10:25,775 --> 02:10:27,150
here and everybody goes to Tyler,

2031
02:10:27,150 --> 02:10:33,401
we want to get the best prices we can get for goggle .

2032
02:10:33,401 --> 02:10:37,642
We want to join together and get the best prices for them.

2033
02:10:37,642 --> 02:10:39,642
We're going to go to the lighthouse Point Marina

2034
02:10:39,642 --> 02:10:39,647
and down to the sand.

2035
02:10:39,647 --> 02:10:39,658
We're going to get the best prices we can on gas.

2036
02:10:39,658 --> 02:10:39,666
We're going to get these prices and we're

2037
02:10:39,666 --> 02:10:39,672
going to guarantee these prices, we're

2038
02:10:39,672 --> 02:10:39,681
going to guarantee this there's so many people that

2039
02:10:39,681 --> 02:10:40,806
are going to buy into that.

2040
02:10:40,806 --> 02:10:46,206
And we're going to have X amount of-- we're

2041
02:10:51,137 --> 02:10:58,337
going to buy this much bait from you and this much gas.

2042
02:11:00,559 --> 02:11:02,601
We can get the best prices at this point in time.

2043
02:11:02,601 --> 02:11:02,608
And that's the pricing side of it

2044
02:11:02,608 --> 02:11:02,616
and that's what we're going to be doing

2045
02:11:02,616 --> 02:11:02,620
at disposal and processing.

2046
02:11:02,620 --> 02:11:02,629
But we're also going to say, we're going to.

2047
02:11:02,629 --> 02:11:02,635
We're going to get some seminars,

2048
02:11:02,635 --> 02:11:02,641
we're going to be constantly educating.

2049
02:11:02,641 --> 02:11:03,937
We're going to pay for education for those guys

2050
02:11:03,937 --> 02:11:05,897
and top fishing guys around right now.

2051
02:11:05,897 --> 02:11:08,153
We're only catching about 39% of our recycling.

2052
02:11:08,153 --> 02:11:11,665
39% of the folks that go out to bring fish back in, we're

2053
02:11:11,665 --> 02:11:13,650
trying to get it to 75%.

2054
02:11:13,650 --> 02:11:16,253
We've heard that those guys come back with 75%.

2055
02:11:16,253 --> 02:11:18,715
We're going to try to get it to where everybody's

2056
02:11:18,715 --> 02:11:22,521
getting 75% by educating, by training people with the best

2057
02:11:22,521 --> 02:11:28,521
people out here to teach them how to fish properly,

2058
02:11:35,346 --> 02:11:41,946
and all the tips and tricks that they can give you.

2059
02:11:49,110 --> 02:11:50,844
These guys always have some tips and tricks.

2060
02:11:50,844 --> 02:11:50,855
The goal is to get the recycling rate up by educating.

2061
02:11:50,855 --> 02:11:50,861
That's really it in a nutshell.

2062
02:11:50,861 --> 02:11:52,236
Educating and get that recycling.

2063
02:11:52,236 --> 02:11:56,436
And by joining in forces from everybody,

2064
02:12:03,558 --> 02:12:07,738
getting a mass amount of people together to go to these disposal

2065
02:12:07,738 --> 02:12:09,738
and processing facilities to get the best rates.

2066
02:12:09,738 --> 02:12:11,738
That's really it.

2067
02:12:14,713 --> 02:12:15,713
>> I thought about that.

2068
02:12:15,713 --> 02:12:16,588
I'm not an economist.

2069
02:12:16,588 --> 02:12:21,388
I have some background from my college days--

2070
02:12:24,963 --> 02:12:27,963
>> You're not a tree trimmer.

2071
02:12:28,812 --> 02:12:29,582
[Laughter]

2072
02:12:29,582 --> 02:12:30,957
>> I have a real debate about it,

2073
02:12:30,957 --> 02:12:33,457
I get the point there's not many players on the supply side,

2074
02:12:33,457 --> 02:12:36,457
all the big garbage companies.

2075
02:12:38,900 --> 02:12:45,716
What a market works well-- for a market to work well and it's--

2076
02:12:45,716 --> 02:12:47,728
I can make the argument by together.

2077
02:12:47,728 --> 02:12:54,147
What are we going to do if of these people come together,

2078
02:12:54,147 --> 02:12:57,180
put this out to bid, and all of these big players

2079
02:12:57,180 --> 02:12:57,189
say give these None of them are acceptable.

2080
02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:57,198
We're gonna to go with one of them.

2081
02:12:57,198 --> 02:12:57,201
Because everybody's together.

2082
02:12:57,201 --> 02:12:58,201
There's no other people.

2083
02:12:58,201 --> 02:13:02,401
>> You don't have to because in 2027--

2084
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:17,553
>> The point is for market to work,

2085
02:13:17,553 --> 02:13:17,563
there needs to be a of buyers and Sellers.

2086
02:13:17,563 --> 02:13:17,567
That's the consumers consolidating,

2087
02:13:17,567 --> 02:13:17,577
I get the bargaining power, what you're some competition

2088
02:13:17,577 --> 02:13:17,582
on the bar side.

2089
02:13:17,582 --> 02:13:17,589
Especially for city like lighthouse point,

2090
02:13:17,589 --> 02:13:17,613
it's a small fish.

2091
02:13:17,613 --> 02:13:18,434
I get the argument and I hope you're right.

2092
02:13:18,434 --> 02:13:20,400
I hope the rates come back.

2093
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:21,188
But we won't know.

2094
02:13:21,188 --> 02:13:23,250
Those are my thoughts on it.

2095
02:13:23,250 --> 02:13:26,910
I will say more to my fellow commissioners.

2096
02:13:26,910 --> 02:13:31,459
It sounds like you're inclined to take the free peak.

2097
02:13:31,459 --> 02:13:35,659
I do feel pretty strongly-- and I

2098
02:13:55,433 --> 02:13:59,272
want to be candid my opinion to the SWA on this.

2099
02:13:59,272 --> 02:14:00,980
We to have a plan B if we decide opt out.

2100
02:14:00,980 --> 02:14:00,989
We need to almost compete with and know

2101
02:14:00,989 --> 02:14:03,572
what the world's going to look if we decide not to go forward.

2102
02:14:03,572 --> 02:14:07,172
>> It's not me you're competing with.

2103
02:14:17,707 --> 02:14:18,749
You're with other cities.

2104
02:14:18,749 --> 02:14:20,749
>> Competition is good.

2105
02:14:22,950 --> 02:14:25,950
That's why you're doing >> You're

2106
02:14:26,723 --> 02:14:29,725
competing with every other city in Broward County,

2107
02:14:29,725 --> 02:14:30,808
including Fort Lauderdale.

2108
02:14:30,808 --> 02:14:30,817
I understand, but we decided not too ago

2109
02:14:30,817 --> 02:14:30,826
to spend money in recycle when other just

2110
02:14:30,826 --> 02:14:30,832
said no, it's too expensive.

2111
02:14:30,832 --> 02:14:30,843
My point I need to know how much more expensive

2112
02:14:30,843 --> 02:14:32,801
might be for Lighthouse Point to go with a loan

2113
02:14:32,801 --> 02:14:36,401
if we decide to opt out.

2114
02:14:42,505 --> 02:14:47,305
I know waste management has told us informally

2115
02:14:58,450 --> 02:14:58,837
it's going be more.

2116
02:14:58,837 --> 02:15:04,550
I need to know how much more, because if it's 15 a, maybe

2117
02:15:04,550 --> 02:15:06,222
it's worth it for Lighthouse Point to separate it's.

2118
02:15:06,222 --> 02:15:06,232
Maybe it's worth it for Point to obligate itself

2119
02:15:06,232 --> 02:15:08,815
to some big capital that might be needed to achieve this goal.

2120
02:15:08,815 --> 02:15:15,415
guess I want to be-- that I'm going to be advocating

2121
02:15:18,879 --> 02:15:20,754
my fellow commissioners agree with me or not,

2122
02:15:20,754 --> 02:15:20,767
we do as a city what we need do to see

2123
02:15:20,767 --> 02:15:23,170
what the world looks like we opt out and decide to go.

2124
02:15:23,170 --> 02:15:27,817
I don't think we would be doing jobs

2125
02:15:33,853 --> 02:15:38,478
as elected representatives of the Lighthouse point seeing what

2126
02:15:38,478 --> 02:15:40,478
those actions--

2127
02:15:41,106 --> 02:15:43,106
I'll even assume they could be But the residents

2128
02:15:43,106 --> 02:15:43,119
of Lighthouse Point are used a little bit of a higher levels

2129
02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:43,126
of with respect to their trash.

2130
02:15:43,126 --> 02:15:44,584
And we might willing to pay for it.

2131
02:15:44,584 --> 02:15:49,384
>> And you still keep that level of service.

2132
02:15:50,242 --> 02:15:56,565
I used you as example when I talked about the level of I

2133
02:15:56,565 --> 02:15:58,982
said there's certain cities that have bulk yard waste once

2134
02:15:58,982 --> 02:16:00,982
a week.

2135
02:16:02,219 --> 02:16:04,219
Twice a week.

2136
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:08,698
Can I bring that up.

2137
02:16:08,698 --> 02:16:08,706
There's certain cities that have twice a week

2138
02:16:08,706 --> 02:16:08,714
pier certain cities have it once a month.

2139
02:16:08,714 --> 02:16:10,422
You can choose your own level of service.

2140
02:16:10,422 --> 02:16:15,825
Nobody's going to tell you that you can't have it twice a week

2141
02:16:15,825 --> 02:16:21,152
or you can only have it twice a month.

2142
02:16:21,152 --> 02:16:24,801
>> Maybe the stuff went away, I remember the last time we

2143
02:16:24,801 --> 02:16:26,801
talked-- co-mingling.

2144
02:16:28,765 --> 02:16:30,754
There's a value in that to our residents.

2145
02:16:30,754 --> 02:16:30,761
Is it worth $25 more a ton?

2146
02:16:30,761 --> 02:16:30,764
I don't know.

2147
02:16:30,764 --> 02:16:32,556
I don't even know what I'm comparing it to.

2148
02:16:32,556 --> 02:16:35,556
I feel pretty strongly, commissioners,

2149
02:16:40,358 --> 02:16:43,709
that if you do move forward, we need to put out the bids,

2150
02:16:43,709 --> 02:16:45,167
figure out what the alternative is.

2151
02:16:45,167 --> 02:16:52,367
I know that's a lot of work for administration and the mayor,

2152
02:16:53,272 --> 02:16:54,855
but I feel pretty strongly about that.

2153
02:16:54,855 --> 02:16:57,259
>> We talked about it last time.

2154
02:16:57,259 --> 02:16:59,634
The fact is that we did get an unsolicited bid yesterday.

2155
02:16:59,634 --> 02:17:07,434
I can tell you that there's not a lot of details into it,

2156
02:17:07,614 --> 02:17:12,372
but the idea is there are other people out there that

2157
02:17:12,372 --> 02:17:12,384
are looking to service our trash here in the city of Lighthouse

2158
02:17:12,384 --> 02:17:12,884
Point.

2159
02:17:12,884 --> 02:17:19,326
I think as we look, to your point globally, Broward County,

2160
02:17:19,326 --> 02:17:21,243
it's important that there is some competition.

2161
02:17:21,243 --> 02:17:21,251
Having an opportunity to have a sneak peak,

2162
02:17:21,251 --> 02:17:21,258
it's kind of what we've all agreed,

2163
02:17:21,258 --> 02:17:23,675
but we need to have options because the city of lighthouse

2164
02:17:23,675 --> 02:17:27,275
point, I think all the residents,

2165
02:17:39,530 --> 02:17:41,345
and you saw here tonight the majority have cleared out,

2166
02:17:41,345 --> 02:17:41,351
they expect the level of service.

2167
02:17:41,351 --> 02:17:41,357
Whether it's library, the reading program,

2168
02:17:41,357 --> 02:17:41,365
whether it's public works, tree trimming, recreation, baseball

2169
02:17:41,365 --> 02:17:41,367
or softball.

2170
02:17:41,367 --> 02:17:41,371
I think it's important.

2171
02:17:41,371 --> 02:17:41,380
And the fact that an unsolicited bid came in,

2172
02:17:41,380 --> 02:17:41,389
the fact is that there's an appetite for someone

2173
02:17:41,389 --> 02:17:43,889
to service and dispose of our trash here in Lighthouse Point

2174
02:17:43,889 --> 02:17:46,889
outside of what SWA provided.

2175
02:18:12,637 --> 02:18:16,193
Again, I'm not sure that that's what it's-- it's going to be

2176
02:18:16,193 --> 02:18:17,860
worth to residents to go for $3 a month,

2177
02:18:17,860 --> 02:18:24,148
all of a sudden they can lock in at 10 or 15 year contract.

2178
02:18:24,148 --> 02:18:27,294
I think we have to look at it.

2179
02:18:27,294 --> 02:18:29,964
And I will tell you very truthfully,

2180
02:18:29,964 --> 02:18:31,631
we're signing up for this without having

2181
02:18:31,631 --> 02:18:37,310
an option for a plan B or plan C,

2182
02:18:37,861 --> 02:18:39,236
technically, I think we would not

2183
02:18:39,236 --> 02:18:39,270
be doing our due diligence to the residents of Lighthouse

2184
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:39,770
Point.

2185
02:18:39,770 --> 02:18:45,770
You can't have option A if you're not signed up.

2186
02:18:48,876 --> 02:18:53,760
>> Listen, option A was a good move.

2187
02:18:53,421 --> 02:18:56,421
But the opt out was--

2188
02:18:57,147 --> 02:18:57,895
I respect that.

2189
02:18:57,895 --> 02:18:59,437
And you guys got your votes you need.

2190
02:18:59,437 --> 02:19:01,837
>> It came from you.

2191
02:19:05,794 --> 02:19:06,544
>> I respect that.

2192
02:19:06,544 --> 02:19:06,555
A lot of this is very policy driven in my mind.

2193
02:19:06,555 --> 02:19:06,564
It's almost a policy experiment of whether we're going

2194
02:19:06,564 --> 02:19:06,570
to be able to achieve this.

2195
02:19:06,570 --> 02:19:08,528
I said this last time, and I will say it again.

2196
02:19:08,528 --> 02:19:15,128
Tallahassee ever hears me-- if we join and stay on board,

2197
02:19:33,721 --> 02:19:35,263
we are giving up a modicum of control

2198
02:19:35,263 --> 02:19:35,274
of how we handle one of the major aspects of living

2199
02:19:35,274 --> 02:19:35,280
in Lighthouse Point and being here

2200
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:35,291
in the city, which is handling a portion of your trash.

2201
02:19:35,291 --> 02:19:35,302
And in a world where home is being almost virtually erased,

2202
02:19:35,302 --> 02:19:35,308
I respectfully have a psychological problem

2203
02:19:35,308 --> 02:19:35,745
with yielding control, and that to me is an extension of that.

2204
02:19:35,745 --> 02:19:36,653
Nothing personal.

2205
02:19:36,653 --> 02:19:39,985
I know it's a lot of work and very complicated and difficult

2206
02:19:39,985 --> 02:19:41,985
business.

2207
02:20:05,312 --> 02:20:07,812
I'm glad we could probably have that discussion another day.

2208
02:20:07,812 --> 02:20:13,910
>> We'll have another discussion as we look into this

2209
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:13,591
opportunity.

2210
02:20:13,591 --> 02:20:13,598
I've spoken with legal to make sure

2211
02:20:13,598 --> 02:20:13,607
that we're following all the procurement process about it

2212
02:20:13,607 --> 02:20:13,613
and who we can talk to.

2213
02:20:13,613 --> 02:20:15,613
The key is that there are other people out there

2214
02:20:15,613 --> 02:20:21,613
that are looking to service the City of Lighthouse Point.

2215
02:20:30,580 --> 02:20:34,180
>> Hopefully there will always be people.

2216
02:20:34,486 --> 02:20:38,860
>> Then we have a real problem.

2217
02:20:42,250 --> 02:20:45,625
>> Thank you very much for coming.

2218
02:20:45,705 --> 02:20:46,955
>> I do have something to say.

2219
02:20:46,955 --> 02:20:48,497
If we're going to go into this thing,

2220
02:20:48,497 --> 02:20:51,177
we need to find out what option B is if it doesn't work by 2027.

2221
02:20:51,177 --> 02:20:52,427
We absolutely have to do that.

2222
02:20:52,427 --> 02:20:52,442
Then we know if we're right if we get into it and stay in it,

2223
02:20:52,442 --> 02:20:53,942
but we know we're wrong if we don't.

2224
02:20:53,942 --> 02:20:55,942
>> Appreciate that.

2225
02:21:01,272 --> 02:21:09,720
So if we're going to have a, we're going to call the vote.

2226
02:21:12,510 --> 02:21:17,500
>> I will add a final comment and a question.

2227
02:21:17,500 --> 02:21:21,205
I'm in favor of this sneak peak.

2228
02:21:24,670 --> 02:21:28,267
I think (Indiscernible)-- I'm curious, what's

2229
02:21:30,841 --> 02:21:32,133
the downside to the sneak peak?

2230
02:21:32,133 --> 02:21:37,533
>> I think the downside to the sneak peak is--

2231
02:21:39,266 --> 02:21:41,308
I know it's not exactly like a government agency,

2232
02:21:41,308 --> 02:21:45,877
but you are creating a taxing authority to achieve something,

2233
02:21:45,877 --> 02:21:50,710
and I keep coming back to the master plan that

2234
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:52,738
gave no data on supporting what the goal is actually achievable.

2235
02:21:52,738 --> 02:21:52,747
And I just can't wrap my head around how

2236
02:21:52,747 --> 02:21:56,556
this could have gone as far as it did without somebody saying--

2237
02:21:56,556 --> 02:22:03,156
we hired somebody to figure out whether a sidewalk is feasible.

2238
02:22:13,861 --> 02:22:18,413
From what I read on the master plan,

2239
02:22:18,413 --> 02:22:20,800
nobody has said whether 75% is feasible.

2240
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:20,663
It is assumed.

2241
02:22:20,663 --> 02:22:24,633
>> Didn't he just say Palm Beach is a 90%.

2242
02:22:24,633 --> 02:22:26,800
What's the difference between possible and feasible?

2243
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:29,800
>> They own their own facility.

2244
02:22:36,863 --> 02:22:39,549
>> We're talking about a percentage of recycling,

2245
02:22:39,549 --> 02:22:40,799
not about how they process it.

2246
02:22:40,799 --> 02:22:42,799
>> I understand.

2247
02:22:52,496 --> 02:22:54,496
>> It's already created.

2248
02:22:56,606 --> 02:22:57,833
>> That's fair.

2249
02:22:57,833 --> 02:22:59,875
>> I don't know if you read all the white papers,

2250
02:22:59,875 --> 02:23:05,875
but there's white papers that really dive into every aspect.

2251
02:23:06,347 --> 02:23:10,547
And it would dive into the feasibility.

2252
02:23:10,722 --> 02:23:12,597
>> Everything was focused on the master plan.

2253
02:23:12,597 --> 02:23:14,970
I did not see it in the master plan.

2254
02:23:14,970 --> 02:23:16,970
I'll send --

2255
02:23:21,328 --> 02:23:22,786
>> I'll send you something on that.

2256
02:23:22,786 --> 02:23:28,186
>> I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 2026-2740,

2257
02:23:29,375 --> 02:23:34,175
approving the First Amendment to the interlocal agreement

2258
02:23:34,420 --> 02:23:37,300
for solid disposable recyclable materials processing authority

2259
02:23:37,300 --> 02:23:37,753
of Broward County.

2260
02:23:37,753 --> 02:23:41,953
>> We have a motion and a second.

2261
02:23:46,964 --> 02:23:51,764
All those in favor signify by saying aye.

2262
02:23:54,704 --> 02:23:56,296
Opposed.

2263
02:23:56,296 --> 02:23:58,296
Motino passes 3-1.

2264
02:23:59,390 --> 02:24:01,810
Resolution approving the revised Second amendment

2265
02:24:01,810 --> 02:24:01,890
to the interlocal agreement for solid waste disposal

2266
02:24:01,890 --> 02:24:01,930
and recyclable materials processing

2267
02:24:01,930 --> 02:24:02,260
authority of Broward County.

2268
02:24:02,260 --> 02:24:07,600
>> (Indiscernible)-- the amendment must now be approved

2269
02:24:13,142 --> 02:24:15,434
by all members of the governing body of the Solid Waste

2270
02:24:15,434 --> 02:24:15,934
Authority.

2271
02:24:15,934 --> 02:24:19,299
Revised amendment includes changing the language.

2272
02:24:19,299 --> 02:24:22,645
It provides an additional laptop opportunity in 2027

2273
02:24:22,645 --> 02:24:25,103
after the RFP responses from the responsible and processing

2274
02:24:25,103 --> 02:24:25,111
facilities have been received in the contract awards

2275
02:24:25,111 --> 02:24:25,114
have been recommended.

2276
02:24:25,114 --> 02:24:25,120
And it now allows participating municipalities

2277
02:24:25,120 --> 02:24:25,132
the ability to withdraw or opt out from the Broward Solid Waste

2278
02:24:25,132 --> 02:24:26,174
Authority for any reason.

2279
02:24:26,174 --> 02:24:30,374
After the award recommendation following the solicitation

2280
02:24:40,270 --> 02:24:43,270
(Indiscernible)-- a second amendment

2281
02:24:54,916 --> 02:24:59,116
must be approved by all participating municipalities.

2282
02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:05,137
Approval of the Second Amendment does not

2283
02:25:05,137 --> 02:25:05,144
create any direct fiscal impact and provides

2284
02:25:05,144 --> 02:25:05,153
the city with future withdrawal options following the authority

2285
02:25:05,153 --> 02:25:05,161
the initial procurement process for 2027 in 2048.

2286
02:25:05,161 --> 02:25:07,286
Request the City Commission consider the resolution

2287
02:25:07,286 --> 02:25:12,860
to adopt the revised Second Amendment to the--

2288
02:25:31,752 --> 02:25:33,752
>> Motion to read?

2289
02:25:34,694 --> 02:25:37,270
>> Resolution of a city commission of city of lighthouse

2290
02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:39,485
Point Florida, second amendment to the interlocal agreement

2291
02:25:39,485 --> 02:25:43,850
for solid waste disposal, recyclable materials--

2292
02:25:46,791 --> 02:25:49,410
>> Second amendment is the greatest thing since sliced

2293
02:25:49,410 --> 02:25:49,420
bread.

2294
02:25:49,420 --> 02:25:49,470
I love the Second Amendment.

2295
02:25:49,470 --> 02:25:50,466
I am very much in favor.

2296
02:25:50,466 --> 02:25:52,466
Because in politics?

2297
02:25:54,708 --> 02:25:56,127
I love the Second Amendment.

2298
02:25:56,127 --> 02:25:56,135
I'm a huge fan of the Second Amendment.

2299
02:25:56,135 --> 02:25:57,427
Why didn't I think of that one?

2300
02:25:57,427 --> 02:25:59,427
The Second --

2301
02:26:07,123 --> 02:26:09,123
>> Second amendment here or the Second Amendment

2302
02:26:09,123 --> 02:26:11,123
on the Constitution?

2303
02:26:13,841 --> 02:26:14,860
>> Both.

2304
02:26:14,860 --> 02:26:15,680
>> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 26-2741.

2305
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:15,730
Approving the revised Second Amendment

2306
02:26:15,730 --> 02:26:15,810
to the Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Disposal

2307
02:26:15,810 --> 02:26:15,880
and Recyclable Materials processing to Broward County.

2308
02:26:15,880 --> 02:26:15,921
>> We have a motion.

2309
02:26:15,921 --> 02:26:18,321
We have a second.

2310
02:26:18,768 --> 02:26:23,568
All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

2311
02:26:37,165 --> 02:26:39,165
Motion passes 4-0.

2312
02:26:40,557 --> 02:26:42,557
Good luck.

2313
02:26:43,362 --> 02:26:45,666
Moving on, public comments and requests from the floor.

2314
02:26:45,666 --> 02:26:47,583
Anything else from the peanut gallery tonight?

2315
02:26:47,583 --> 02:26:47,589
No one is raising their hand.

2316
02:26:47,589 --> 02:26:49,464
We will close public comments from the floor.

2317
02:26:49,464 --> 02:26:51,464
Communications.

2318
02:27:06,686 --> 02:27:08,353
>> Great event at the park Friday night.

2319
02:27:08,353 --> 02:27:08,360
The final pop up of the summer.

2320
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:08,366
The weather helped the whole time.

2321
02:27:08,366 --> 02:27:10,158
I give kudos to the team that organizes it.

2322
02:27:10,158 --> 02:27:13,758
I know that I showed up.

2323
02:27:22,941 --> 02:27:24,816
I spent $30 right off the bat and I went home

2324
02:27:24,816 --> 02:27:27,816
with a nice chocolate chip.

2325
02:27:40,509 --> 02:27:45,309
it was a chocolate chocolate peanut butter cup.

2326
02:27:49,446 --> 02:27:51,446
>> I missed that.

2327
02:27:53,217 --> 02:27:55,617
>> I got nothing else.

2328
02:27:56,522 --> 02:27:58,500
>> Marshall.

2329
02:27:58,500 --> 02:27:58,362
>> I had a question of something I noticed.

2330
02:27:58,362 --> 02:27:58,373
We have a lot of demolition going on in the city.

2331
02:27:58,373 --> 02:28:00,400
My question is if it is not in the code,

2332
02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:05,440
maybe we should entertain putting it in the code,

2333
02:28:07,580 --> 02:28:13,580
but these construction fences should not be along the route.

2334
02:28:14,871 --> 02:28:16,788
They should be backed out of the right of way.

2335
02:28:16,788 --> 02:28:18,496
You can't put a face in the right of way.

2336
02:28:18,496 --> 02:28:22,696
Why would you be able to put--

2337
02:28:27,665 --> 02:28:29,485
I don't know what the answer is to that.

2338
02:28:29,485 --> 02:28:36,938
If it is not in the code, we should have it in the code.

2339
02:28:36,938 --> 02:28:38,730
Whatever the right of way is, it should not

2340
02:28:38,730 --> 02:28:39,688
be in the right of way.

2341
02:28:39,688 --> 02:28:47,488
One of these issues that I think we have-- people come and park

2342
02:28:50,720 --> 02:28:50,655
in the street.

2343
02:28:50,655 --> 02:28:50,660
It just fixes everything up.

2344
02:28:50,660 --> 02:28:50,672
If it is off the street, and if there's only two cars,

2345
02:28:50,672 --> 02:28:52,880
those construction workers could park off the street.

2346
02:28:52,880 --> 02:28:58,342
So I think if it's not in there, we should

2347
02:28:58,342 --> 02:29:01,942
verify that that is the code.

2348
02:29:14,370 --> 02:29:18,245
If we're in agreement, but that's just something

2349
02:29:18,245 --> 02:29:19,370
that I recently discovered.

2350
02:29:19,370 --> 02:29:23,353
I discovered it in one of my wheelchair trips

2351
02:29:23,353 --> 02:29:25,353
around the city.

2352
02:29:26,276 --> 02:29:28,734
>> Just to respond, I think I share a similar sense in that

2353
02:29:28,734 --> 02:29:30,984
a couple of months ago when they were finishing up one

2354
02:29:30,984 --> 02:29:32,588
of the homes.

2355
02:29:32,588 --> 02:29:37,115
They knocked it down and rebuilt it on 49th Street because that

2356
02:29:37,115 --> 02:29:38,365
exact same situation happened.

2357
02:29:38,365 --> 02:29:40,407
And it was along 49th Street, which was a major--

2358
02:29:40,407 --> 02:29:45,207
where the fence comes right to the sidewalk.

2359
02:29:46,598 --> 02:29:48,181
It's not technically the right of way.

2360
02:29:48,181 --> 02:29:48,187
Then you've got all the construction

2361
02:29:48,187 --> 02:29:50,354
workers parking their cars, blocking the right lane.

2362
02:29:50,354 --> 02:29:54,554
>> The sidewalk, normally parked behind the sidewalk.

2363
02:29:56,798 --> 02:29:58,923
But in this particular case that I'm talking about,

2364
02:29:58,923 --> 02:29:58,929
there's no sidewalk on that street.

2365
02:29:58,929 --> 02:30:00,721
The fence is right at the edge of the road.

2366
02:30:00,721 --> 02:30:04,921
And the gate opens into the road.

2367
02:30:16,829 --> 02:30:19,829
>> That shouldn't be the case.

2368
02:30:21,773 --> 02:30:24,409
I will report back to you.

2369
02:30:24,409 --> 02:30:25,117
>> Anything else?

2370
02:30:25,117 --> 02:30:25,999
>> Recycle.

2371
02:30:25,999 --> 02:30:27,767
It's all I can tell you.

2372
02:30:27,767 --> 02:30:35,567
I would like us to think about, Mayor, trying to see some way--

2373
02:30:36,670 --> 02:30:38,503
I think waste management is supposed to help

2374
02:30:38,503 --> 02:30:39,545
us do that kind of stuff.

2375
02:30:39,545 --> 02:30:43,753
Maybe we can lay-- to we give them addresses or something

2376
02:30:43,753 --> 02:30:45,545
somehow, I'm not trying to beat anybody up.

2377
02:30:45,545 --> 02:30:49,145
Just trying to make people-- maybe

2378
02:30:51,804 --> 02:30:53,374
they don't even think about it.

2379
02:30:53,374 --> 02:30:56,974
>> I'll have Jennifer look into it.

2380
02:30:58,165 --> 02:31:00,165
She handles that.

2381
02:31:02,200 --> 02:31:03,780
>> Thank you.

2382
02:31:03,780 --> 02:31:06,488
>> The waste management lines, I want to thank Dwayne for freeing

2383
02:31:06,488 --> 02:31:10,498
up some space in my recycling bins.

2384
02:31:10,498 --> 02:31:17,698
Chief Recaro we're taking care of a tree that got knocked down.

2385
02:31:19,743 --> 02:31:24,929
Sent a bunch of guys to clean it up.

2386
02:31:24,929 --> 02:31:27,598
>> First and foremost, It was nice that our stuff had a nice

2387
02:31:27,598 --> 02:31:27,600
little break.

2388
02:31:27,600 --> 02:31:27,606
I'm sure it was well enjoyed.

2389
02:31:27,606 --> 02:31:27,614
Becky had another amazing and successful summer camp,

2390
02:31:27,614 --> 02:31:27,617
which is awesome.

2391
02:31:27,617 --> 02:31:27,625
And Public Works has already gotten over there

2392
02:31:27,625 --> 02:31:29,125
and cleaning up all the fun the kids

2393
02:31:29,125 --> 02:31:34,525
had over the last six and a half weeks.

2394
02:31:48,850 --> 02:31:51,225
As we're still talking a little trash amongst each other,

2395
02:31:51,225 --> 02:31:51,237
the idea of getting option B and option C will take time.

2396
02:31:51,237 --> 02:31:51,247
Whether it's an unsolicited bid, or us actually putting out

2397
02:31:51,247 --> 02:31:54,402
to bid to see what's out there in the world,

2398
02:31:54,402 --> 02:32:00,402
I think that's the only way that we could go.

2399
02:32:09,185 --> 02:32:10,143
It will take some time.

2400
02:32:10,143 --> 02:32:10,149
So don't look for anything immediately.

2401
02:32:10,149 --> 02:32:10,160
I will go back to the original portion of the night.

2402
02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:10,164
We had Marty here.

2403
02:32:10,164 --> 02:32:10,169
He does a great presentation.

2404
02:32:10,169 --> 02:32:10,179
Whether he's on four cups of coffee or no coffee,

2405
02:32:10,179 --> 02:32:10,184
he talks the same speed.

2406
02:32:10,184 --> 02:32:10,193
The most important aspect that he said out there,

2407
02:32:10,193 --> 02:32:10,203
we continuously go back and forth with the state statutes

2408
02:32:10,203 --> 02:32:13,465
on what we can talk about and advocate for, not advocate

2409
02:32:13,465 --> 02:32:17,650
for, we cannot advocate for anything.

2410
02:32:21,752 --> 02:32:24,152
We can't bring out--

2411
02:32:45,322 --> 02:32:47,720
I'm sure some of you look at the next door

2412
02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:47,810
look at some of these people's posts on Facebook.

2413
02:32:47,810 --> 02:32:48,581
And opinions and it's amazing to me.

2414
02:32:48,581 --> 02:32:55,781
it's amazing to me how we cannot get the facts out there.

2415
02:33:03,315 --> 02:33:05,732
There are still people that don't understand that it's not

2416
02:33:05,732 --> 02:33:05,739
going to affect the school board Texas,

2417
02:33:05,739 --> 02:33:05,750
or the fact that we don't get the full tax bill.

2418
02:33:05,750 --> 02:33:05,754
We only get 21.2%.

2419
02:33:05,754 --> 02:33:07,504
There's no protection for police and fire.

2420
02:33:07,504 --> 02:33:11,652
There's a lot of things out there that are not protected.

2421
02:33:11,652 --> 02:33:19,452
And I can tell you as we continue to go to the budget .

2422
02:33:24,342 --> 02:33:29,742
And I've talked to all of you about this.

2423
02:33:29,850 --> 02:33:35,850
We're continuously looking to figure out where we would come.

2424
02:33:38,700 --> 02:33:41,848
I'll go back to the $100,000 exemption.

2425
02:33:41,848 --> 02:33:43,936
We would probably survive.

2426
02:33:43,936 --> 02:33:45,978
We would then increase our millage rates and Levy

2427
02:33:45,978 --> 02:33:45,980
different debts.

2428
02:33:45,980 --> 02:33:45,987
Would have all of these aspects that

2429
02:33:45,987 --> 02:33:45,994
would cause more problems and more work

2430
02:33:45,994 --> 02:33:46,300
for staff, which is kind of kind of intuitive.

2431
02:33:46,300 --> 02:33:46,100
But we run a tight ship here.

2432
02:33:46,100 --> 02:33:46,170
We continue to have a tight ship.

2433
02:33:46,170 --> 02:33:46,280
And unfortunately the stewards in the wall that we look over

2434
02:33:46,280 --> 02:33:46,400
to our left and the people that have sat in the chair

2435
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:49,745
to our far right over there have done such an amazing job

2436
02:33:49,745 --> 02:33:52,745
to spend every dollar wisely.

2437
02:34:22,444 --> 02:34:26,123
Unfortunately, that is going to hurt us

2438
02:34:26,123 --> 02:34:26,131
when the sentiment on our next commission meeting,

2439
02:34:26,131 --> 02:34:26,142
we will have the full discussion on what the property tax

2440
02:34:26,142 --> 02:34:28,725
cuts would look like now that you've seen the numbers in front

2441
02:34:28,725 --> 02:34:32,291
of you, and how you would solve some of the problems,

2442
02:34:32,291 --> 02:34:38,891
and what the long term goals and expectations of the residents

2443
02:34:40,400 --> 02:34:41,498
should be if this goes into effect.

2444
02:34:41,498 --> 02:34:46,298
Come with your questions, come with some thoughts,

2445
02:34:49,630 --> 02:34:52,630
but more importantly, I'm prepared

2446
02:34:53,515 --> 02:34:55,570
that services and capital improvement

2447
02:34:55,570 --> 02:34:56,693
projects will suffer.

2448
02:34:56,693 --> 02:35:00,893
It's going to be harder to decide.

2449
02:35:07,112 --> 02:35:10,806
>> Should we potentially-- potentially have the town hall

2450
02:35:10,806 --> 02:35:12,556
meetings sometime in September or October?

2451
02:35:12,556 --> 02:35:13,473
And present the facts.

2452
02:35:13,473 --> 02:35:19,473
>> You're spending city >> I would have to lean on legal

2453
02:35:27,449 --> 02:35:31,649
to see what would it be feasible--

2454
02:35:38,140 --> 02:35:42,654
>> Town hall meetings are not for putting things out there.

2455
02:35:42,654 --> 02:35:42,663
They're not spending public money to send things out.

2456
02:35:42,663 --> 02:35:42,669
That's what you're prohibited from doing.

2457
02:35:42,669 --> 02:35:44,440
You can host a town hall meeting.

2458
02:35:44,440 --> 02:35:48,844
You can educate that those town hall meetings.

2459
02:35:59,659 --> 02:36:01,326
you balance it and you don't necessarily

2460
02:36:01,326 --> 02:36:01,331
advocate one way or another.

2461
02:36:01,331 --> 02:36:01,340
You get those facts out there on the referendum.

2462
02:36:01,340 --> 02:36:01,350
I think you did have those for your charter amendments

2463
02:36:01,350 --> 02:36:01,355
a couple of years ago.

2464
02:36:01,355 --> 02:36:01,362
Because you faced the same coalition then.

2465
02:36:01,362 --> 02:36:03,695
You cannot use tax dollars to send that information out,

2466
02:36:03,695 --> 02:36:06,950
even if it's education.

2467
02:36:27,172 --> 02:36:30,260
>> We'll discuss that in an upcoming meeting.

2468
02:36:30,260 --> 02:36:33,620
And the legal aspect and we'll rely on Mike

2469
02:36:33,620 --> 02:36:36,620
for all that fancy stuff.

2470
02:36:42,992 --> 02:36:44,996
>> And show them how much they do for you,

2471
02:36:44,996 --> 02:36:46,996
and that's a critical tool.

2472
02:36:46,996 --> 02:36:49,401
>> I appreciate that there was quite a few residents here

2473
02:36:49,401 --> 02:36:50,818
tonight from Marty's presentation.

2474
02:36:50,818 --> 02:36:50,830
I know there was a few neighbors from across the canal that

2475
02:36:50,830 --> 02:36:50,832
showed up.

2476
02:36:50,832 --> 02:36:52,400
I appreciate them showing up.

2477
02:36:52,400 --> 02:36:54,400
>> Anything else?

2478
02:37:01,779 --> 02:37:03,000
We are adjourned.