[2:49] [Captioner present]
[3:23] >> Everybody ready?
[3:33] Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
[3:38] welcome to the greatest show on Earth.
[3:44] The lighthouse point regular city commission meeting
[3:47] of August 11th, 2026.
[3:54] Mayor, Please do the invocation.
[4:02] >> Please bow your head.
[4:03] Heavenly father as we gather here this evening
[4:06] to transact the business of the city, we ask for your guidance
[4:09] so that our actions reflect what is
[4:11] best for our entire community.
[4:12] Help us to keep an open mind so we can listen to others in order
[4:15] to make informed decisions on the matters before us.
[4:17] Please remind us to be honest and fair.
[4:19] We ask that you can show your wisdom, strength
[4:21] and grace on our city officials, staff members and residents
[4:25] who work together for the people of West Point.
[4:28] We ask you to remind us to treat everyone
[4:31] with dignity respect and patience and justice.
[4:34] We ask for your protection and guidance for our country
[4:36] and the citizens of Lighthouse Point.
[4:39] In your name we pray.
[4:42] Amen.
[4:44] >> We're going to call the meeting to order and say
[4:46] the Pledge of Allegiance.
[4:53] >>I pledge allegiance the flag of the States of America
[4:55] and the Republic for it stands, one nation God, indivisible,
[4:55] with liberty justice for all.
[4:58] >> Good job.
[5:01] Madam clerk, roll call, please.
[5:05] >>
[5:06] [Roll call]
[5:30] >> Thank you, everybody.
[5:32] We Have several presentations and proclamations.
[5:44] We're going to start with the Library Summer Readers.
[5:57] >> These were some of the kids that participated in the library
[6:02] summer readings.
[6:04] Last Year we had 70 kids.
[6:12] This year we had 110.
[6:16] Last year They read 702 books.
[6:23] This year they read 1542.
[6:33] [Applause] You're going to notice
[6:36] there's a few people that have stuffies.
[6:41] They were our top readers.
[6:45] [Applause]
[6:56] [Background conversation]
[7:21] [Applause]
[7:53] [Background conversation]
[8:01] [Applause]
[8:09] >> And all of the kids look at that camera right there.
[8:41] >> I'll just say one quick thing here.
[8:43] I want to congratulate you guys on an amazing job of reading.
[8:47] I'll tell you that it takes commitment.
[8:55] We're so fortunate here at the city of Lighthouse Point
[9:00] to have our own city library and have our own children reading.
[9:07] I really want to thank all of the staff.
[9:14] [Applause] Congratulations.
[9:29] Thank you, parents!
[9:36] [Applause]
[9:39] >> Thank you to the library who sponsored all of the dinosaur
[9:43] toys.
[10:01] [Ambient conversation]
[10:57] >> Good job, boys and girls.
[11:00] We're going to move on to the recognition of the girls
[11:03] baseball MVP, which is Lexssa Link and Parker Van Buskirk.
[11:16] >> Good evening, commissioners.
[11:26] Just to give you a little background.
[11:28] We unfortunately were not able to get an older division
[11:31] for a girls softball this year.
[11:32] We just didn't have enough players in either.
[11:36] We had two girls that decided they
[11:37] were going to step up and be part of the baseball
[11:38] team for this year.
[11:39] We did not want to go with them unnoticed.
[11:41] So We have Parker Van Buskirk and Lexssa Link.
[11:55] I really enjoyed coaching Alexa and Parker this year.
[11:58] They were both so much fun to coach.
[12:01] They listened, competed and were absolutely fearless
[12:03] on the field.
[12:04] One of my favorite parts was watching
[12:05] them play along the boys and chuckling
[12:08] when they outplayed them.
[12:09] We all know that stepping up onto the field
[12:12] with a bunch of boys takes a little extra courage,
[12:14] and they sure showed it.
[12:16] In other words it didn't just play baseball with us this year,
[12:21] they made the team better.
[12:23] They set a standard for how the game should
[12:25] be played with heart, toughness and no excuses.
[12:29] Thank you both for being an awesome-- having
[12:36] an awesome season.
[12:36] It was a pleasure having you both on the team.
[12:38] I'm excited to see what the future holds for you both.
[12:43] Best of luck.
[12:46] Keep playing with the same heart and confidence.
[12:49] >> I'll pretend like I'm handing it out to you guys.
[12:54] I think it's important-- we didn't have enough girls
[13:07] for our older girls softball--
[13:13] Which is unfortunate.
[13:17] As you go about your travels and you
[13:20] hear someone that wants to play, please send them our way.
[13:23] We would definitely love to have a league this year.
[13:28] Without further ado, and what you forgot to mention
[13:31] is that I got to be their coach. (Indiscernible)--
[13:44] they are not only good athletes, but good teammates.
[13:49] They don't take any kind of crap from any of the boys over there.
[13:54] Can I look at it this way.
[13:55] When it came down to it in the championship game
[13:57] This last year, the people that came over
[14:07] with the biggest hits on our team
[14:08] were those two girls.-- more importantly their attitude
[14:14] with their teammates.
[14:17] A leader is the most important part
[14:18] of what we try to do here in-- they build young men
[14:23] and women into the future.
[14:27] Parker, Lexssa, Congratulations.
[14:31] It was awesome coaching both of you.
[14:36] I love you both.
[14:39] Thank you very much.
[14:51] [Applause]
[14:56] >> Do you guys want to say anything?
[15:00] >> We'll miss you.
[15:02] We're looking forward to seeing what your future holds.
[15:04] Not only on the field but off the field.
[15:11] >> Moving on.
[15:14] It's also going to recognize the Cooperstown semifinalists, LHP
[15:26] Mariners.
[15:29] [Applause]
[15:42] >> Ask these guys are falling in, we're really proud that
[15:44] we've been able to select a team to go.
[15:46] We have an anonymous donor that sponsors this team
[15:49] to go up from Miles point.
[15:51] This is our third year in a row.
[15:53] When we were thinking about a coach,
[15:54] I had to think about my childhood friend, Danny
[15:58] Horkheimer, to step up to the plate.
[16:01] His dad was my softball coach.
[16:03] And I used him often.
[16:04] And when I speak to my coaches every season
[16:07] saying that I remember his dad being
[16:09] out there with a smile on his face, always
[16:10] a positive attitude, laughing and joking around with the kids.
[16:13] I still remember that to this day.
[16:15] I just love to see that we had Danny
[16:17] out there being a representation because I know
[16:18] he would do an amazing job.
[16:20] I'm going to give him the mic to talk about these boys.
[16:27] [Applause]
[16:33] >> On behalf of LHP Mariners team, as coaches,
[16:42] the awesome families they're.
[16:45] Thank you so much to Steve Liles point, the donors and everybody.
[16:49] We appreciate these boys.
[16:50] It's the ultimate dream to go to the Mecca of baseball,
[16:53] Cooperstown, all star village.
[16:56] These 12 young men, you get the opportunity for them to do it.
[17:01] And we had the time of our lives.
[17:03] A few things real quick.
[17:05] The success of our team wasn't just about individuals.
[17:07] We had one player hit a walk off grand slam to win the game.
[17:12] We had one player that hit eight home runs in nine games.
[17:17] One player got a line drive, one hopper
[17:20] and threw him out from center field.
[17:21] Another player had two diving catches
[17:24] in one inning in the outfield.
[17:26] One got knocked over a second -- double plays.
[17:30] This guys was a trooper catching the ball.
[17:34] We may or may not have had a player--
[17:43] for everybody did their job.
[17:45] It was awesome.
[17:46] So proud of them.
[17:50] The families, grandparents and siblings, you all
[17:55] brought the-- give your parents a round of applause.
[18:08] [Applause] I was blessed with having these three
[18:10] guys to help coach the team.
[18:11] I couldn't have done it without you guys.
[18:14] Just awesome.
[18:15] Thank you so much.
[18:17] It was a team effort, and we couldn't
[18:19] have done it without you three helping me out.
[18:21] Real quick.
[18:24] There's 12 fields.
[18:28] There's a little bit of downtime.
[18:30] While we're doing that downtime is watching the games.
[18:33] What we do is have a person on our team
[18:34] who plays the Michael Jackson music real loud.
[18:44] These guys will never forget.
[18:50] There was 94 teams total.
[18:57] We actually play Team Australia.
[19:00] How cool was that?
[19:13] We beat them.
[19:17] We had so much fun .
[19:29] That's pretty impressive.
[19:32] [Applause] As a token of our appreciation,
[19:33] we want to give this awesome parks and recreation
[19:37] director, Becky Ward.
[19:39] She is the best.
[19:40] Love her so much.
[19:44] I've known her since I was this tall.
[19:47] You've done a great job.
[19:49] Thank you so much for allowing us to play
[19:51] and us coaches to do this.
[19:56] We're going to give you a little token of appreciation here.
[19:58] That's our team photo.
[20:01] Last thing is we have all of our players,
[20:04] and we have our team pins.
[20:06] Can everybody give the commissioners, the mayors
[20:09] and the staff here a team pin?
[20:16] Thank you so much.
[20:24] I appreciate it.
[20:28] What do you guys say?
[20:55] [Applause]
[20:57] >> (Indiscernible) I definitely want to thank the four of you
[21:51] for putting this together.
[21:52] And like I said before, we are super fortunate that they've
[22:00] donated it again for next year.
[22:10] [Applause] Thanks a lot, guys!
[22:15] Let's get a good picture.
[22:25] Come on up front, please.
[22:30] >> One last time.
[23:27] >> Moving on to recognition of police officer Bob Stebbins
[23:30] for 20 years of service.
[23:36] [Applause] First, this is Bob.
[23:38] And more importantly, I tell everybody 20 years
[23:41] is an accomplishment in one place.
[23:48] In today's world and the police department,
[23:50] it's really a lifetime.
[23:51] Here in Lighthouse point, you have amazing residents
[23:55] that truly respect and care and love the police department.
[23:57] More importantly, it's tough to guard every day.
[24:01] You don't know what the situation holds in front of you.
[24:03] You don't know what you're going to encounter.
[24:05] You don't know how to take certain things that
[24:07] happen when residents are upset or not upset.
[24:10] And I have known Bob for over ten years now.
[24:16] I continuously see him with a smile on his face.
[24:20] Big arms and a nice, firm handshake.
[24:25] Him and I both had the same injury at the same time.
[24:27] He had his shoulder-- but more importantly
[24:32] he has a passion for the job.
[24:34] He has a passion for lighthouse point.
[24:34] And it shows throughout every day.
[24:35] 20 years is an amazing accomplishment.
[24:37] I'm gonna take it over to Jack.
[24:42] You continue to exemplify what the men and women of Lighthouse
[24:45] Point represent --
[25:00] >> Mayor, and I echo everything you just said.
[25:02] Bob is the type of officer you want to come to your house
[25:03] if you have a problem.
[25:04] He is an informal leader.
[25:07] He has probably the best communication
[25:09] skills of many officers.
[25:14] He just knows how to speak to people and calm the situation.
[25:19] De-escalate the situation.
[25:24] He's a mentor to new officers on how to communicate properly
[25:26] with individuals.
[25:27] I'm so proud to have Bob with our team.
[25:45] Congratulations!
[25:45] [Applause]
[26:14] >> All right, last but certainly not least,
[26:16] I'd like To invite Marty Kiar, Broward County property
[26:25] appraiser.
[26:25] >> I'd really appreciate it.
[26:28] I love this city.
[26:29] It has been the happiest 20 minutes I've had all day.
[26:32] It's pretty fantastic.
[26:33] And I have to tell you, every single person I've ever
[26:35] met that works for the city has always
[26:37] had a smile on their face.
[26:38] They're so nice and so friendly.
[26:40] They're so happy.
[26:41] I think it's a testament to the great work
[26:43] that this city does for the people of this community.
[26:46] I also want to thank you all for your great service.
[26:48] Lighthouse point is awesome.
[26:49] I was just telling Abby this or somebody
[26:51] that I never met somebody at Lighthouse Point that dislikes
[26:54] living in Lighthouse Point.
[26:55] I actually -- I wanted to quickly give you an update
[27:09] as to where Lighthouse Point is right now when it comes
[27:11] to your property values, and also with regard to what
[27:18] it's doing when it comes to your property.
[27:19] So to give you an idea if you took
[27:21] all the commercial and residential property right now
[27:23] in Lighthouse Point and if you sold it in the open market
[27:26] last year you ever got it right about $6.5 billion.
[27:30] That's a pretty big number.
[27:31] Fast forward one year, there's been
[27:33] a 1.3 increase in its market value
[27:34] to right about $6.6 billion.
[27:36] The more important number, the taxable value
[27:39] that's the value that you're going to be utilizing.
[27:41] You're going to set your -- in 2025,
[27:48] the taxable value was about $4.069 billion.
[27:52] Fast forward one year, there's been a 6.1% increase
[27:55] in taxable value right about to $4.317 billion
[27:59] and to put that in perspective, if you keep your millage rate,
[28:03] which last year was 4.4207, I think
[28:07] that's your proposed millage rate for this year,
[28:09] you'll get an additional $1.09 million
[28:11] more this year than last year.
[28:13] And that's really not being paid for by the majority
[28:15] of your homes --
[28:20] you just put a good amount of new taxable value
[28:23] on the tax roll that's actually bringing
[28:25] in that additional revenue.
[28:26] There are 34,545 homesteaders of properties here in Lighthouse
[28:31] Point.
[28:31] You have 239 seniors who receive a pretty significant reduction
[28:34] for being low income seniors.
[28:36] They have 15 long term, low income seniors
[28:38] that pay no property taxes to the city of Lighthouse
[28:40] Point or the County Commission.
[28:42] You have 366 widowers who live here on Lighthouse Point.
[28:46] You also have 42 American heroes totally permanently disabled
[28:50] veterans that made Lighthouse Point -- and they paid no taxes.
[28:54] And you actually have one totally
[28:56] permanently disabled first responder who
[28:58] pays no property taxes as well.
[28:59] A couple of other interesting numbers.
[29:01] If the average sale price for a single family home right now
[29:05] in Lighthouse Point is about $2,095,000,
[29:09] that's a pretty significant number.
[29:16] The median is a little bit less.
[29:17] It's about $1.3 million.
[29:18] What's interesting about that is the median taxable value is
[29:20] about $660,000, which is much less than the median sale price.
[29:29] They love lighthouse and they never want to leave.
[29:33] And the last is you have a significant amount
[29:35] of condominium parcels here in Lighthouse Point.
[29:37] The average sale price is about $254,000.
[29:39] Very similar to what it was last year.
[29:42] The average taxable value is right around $133,000.
[29:45] They come here and they're protected by the home assessment
[29:50] clause.
[29:51] The value doesn't go up a whole lot.
[29:52] What I really came to talk about was something
[29:54] that was very important.
[29:55] This is what you all asked me to speak about.
[29:58] And I very much appreciate it, which
[30:00] is really about them text amendment
[30:01] for the people of the state of Florida to vote for or against.
[30:06] For the residents, how it impacts Lighthouse Point
[30:10] and Broward County, let me just let people know how we got here.
[30:13] You may recall more than a year ago
[30:14] some random person from North Florida got very upset
[30:16] about the property taxes.
[30:17] They basically tweeted property taxes are horrific.
[30:20] We gotta get rid of them.
[30:21] And it just so happens that governor Desantis saw that tweet
[30:24] and retweeted it.
[30:25] And when the governor retweets something--
[30:39] They decided to do a study and they
[30:42] said if you get rid of all property
[30:44] taxes, what does that mean for the state of Florida?
[30:48] Everything.
[30:51] It'll about to $60 billion of local government,
[30:54] and that money funds things like police, fires, schools,
[30:58] roads bridges, parks libraries, other things
[31:01] that we know locally.
[31:02] And if you're going to take 55 to $60 billion
[31:04] away that's one of those things, we still need those things.
[31:07] How do you replace the money?
[31:08] And they said you have to have an income tax, which
[31:11] thank God we'll never have.
[31:12] Or you have to increase the sales tax up
[31:14] to 12%, possibly 13 or 15%.
[31:18] In South Florida we have a higher cost of living.
[31:20] And what they decided to do was pull the likely voters
[31:22] to Florida.
[31:23] And when it comes to property taxes,
[31:25] the Constitution needs to be amended.
[31:27] And to be amended more than 60% of the people voting
[31:29] have to be in favor of it and that's the new law.
[31:31] They basically said, would you support
[31:34] getting rid of all property taxes
[31:35] and increasing the sales tax to the amount
[31:37] that I just mentioned?
[31:38] And overwhelming, the people of Florida said it was a bad idea.
[31:41] About 70% of the people said it was a bad idea.
[31:44] All political parties said it was a bad idea.
[31:47] When that happened, the conversation
[31:49] changed a little bit from eliminating all property taxes
[31:51] to focusing on homestead property taxes only.
[31:54] And as you know from June one to June 3rd,
[31:57] the Florida Legislature met in a special session where they
[31:59] placed the proposed amendment on the ballot in November
[32:02] for the people to vote for or against.
[32:04] And here's what the amendment doesn't do.
[32:06] It doesn't apply to schools.
[32:08] And so no matter what, people will always
[32:10] pay property taxes to schools.
[32:12] The second thing it doesn't do is
[32:13] it doesn't hold public safety harmless.
[32:22] And what that means is if local government is impacted
[32:24] negatively by this amendment, nothing
[32:25] is safe from being cut here's what it does.
[32:26] What it does is it basically says in order to qualify,
[32:29] you have to be a resident of Florida by January 1st 2027.
[32:33] If not you have to wait five years, and during that time
[32:36] you'll be under the current existing homestead exemption.
[32:38] It also says if you're a resident of Broward County
[32:41] or Lighthouse Point or the state of Florida,
[32:42] on January 1st of 2027, you'll get $150,000 exemption.
[32:46] What that really means is right now the homestead exemption
[32:49] is 5000.
[32:49] What this really does is increase to 250,000.
[32:52] It then says in 2028, that $150,000 exemption will then get
[32:57] raised from 150 to a $250,000 exemption to be applied to all
[33:01] taxing authorities, and then it basically gets a little bit
[33:06] vague.
[33:06] Where it basically says the legislature may possibly,
[33:10] it could if it wants ultimately do a schedule
[33:12] to eliminate all homesteaded property
[33:14] taxes except for the school portion of the tax bill.
[33:16] What I wanted to do was take the boarding of the amendment
[33:20] and apply it to the 2025 tax year.
[33:22] And I used that year because that was the year that we had
[33:26] all of the military -- we had all the values and we knew
[33:29] exactly how much money every taxing authority in Broward
[33:32] County took in, and we also know what the savings would have been
[33:35] for the property owner and the physical impacts each of those
[33:38] taxing authorities.
[33:39] That's what I have here.
[33:41] What I was hoping to do is start with this one.
[33:46] So this deals with the Broward County Commission.
[33:49] As you can see, if a person-- there were 424,899 homestead
[34:01] of parcels.
[34:01] If this was in effect, if everybody had hundred
[34:02] and $50,000 homestead exemption on the property.
[34:04] The average savings countywide Would be right around 1,104. --
[34:21] you do have $150,000 of value that you pay taxes on.
[34:25] You would save right around $1,325.
[34:27] The county's commission itself in 2025
[34:29] levied about $1.8 billion in property taxes.
[34:31] If this was in effect they would have levied about $1.6 billion.
[34:34] So about $150 million less than what they.
[34:37] It would have been about 10.8% difference.
[34:39] Lighthouse point so far at the beginning
[34:42] it's going to be affected a little less
[34:44] than the counties as a whole because the homes here
[34:47] are valued higher than the county on average.
[34:55] As you can see, with a 150,000 homestead exemption,
[34:59] Lighthouse Point is 3591 homesteads of parcels.
[35:02] If this was in effect, the average savings were property --
[35:06] if you would do that, you would save around --
[35:15] if this was in effect, you would have levied about $17.6 million.
[35:21] About $1.4 million less than what you levied.
[35:23] It's about a 7.7% decrease.
[35:34] And what I would like to do is on each one of these increases,
[35:37] I'd like to highlight a couple of cities.
[35:37] Cities that are always in contrast to each other, higher
[35:39] value properties, they are a little bit
[35:42] different than cities with almost all homestead
[35:44] and no commercial.
[35:45] In this situation, the two cities
[35:47] that are in contrast to each other
[35:48] is Pembroke Park and Tamarac.
[35:50] Pembroke Park is barely ever impacted.
[35:52] It's basically a mobile home community
[35:54] with very few homesteaded properties.
[35:56] As you can see with $150,000 exemption,
[35:59] they will lose right around 0.9% of what they collect in property
[36:10] taxes.
[36:12] That's a negligible amount that they can easily make up.
[36:12] Tamarack has a lot of homesteaded properties,
[36:12] not a whole lot of commercial properties.
[36:12] They will lose about 22.3% of what they
[36:14] collected in property taxes.
[36:16] The next thing I wanted to bring up is what happens in 2028?
[36:19] Now in 2028 that 150,000 homestead exemption gets raised
[36:24] to hundred and $50,000 to be applied to all taxing
[36:26] authorities by the--
[36:34] Broward County is 424,899 homestead of parcels.
[36:36] If this was in effect, the average savings
[36:38] per property owner would be 1879 because not everybody has--
[36:46] the County Commission levied about $1.8 billion
[36:49] in property taxes.
[36:50] If this was in effect they would have levied about $1.47 billion.
[36:53] About $330 million less than what they levied.
[36:55] So they would have left about an 18.5% decrease.
[37:00] Lighthouse point isn't impacted as great because you
[37:03] have much more value here in your homes overall,
[37:07] and the county does on average the attack.
[37:13] So in Lighthouse point, you have 3591 homesteads at parcels.
[37:17] If it was in effect, the average Savings
[37:21] would be-- if this was in effect,
[37:31] you would have levied about $16.3 million.
[37:33] About $2.7 million less than what you levied.
[37:33] It's a 14.3% decrease.
[37:35] The two cities that are in contrast
[37:38] to each other a city in Pembroke Park.
[37:40] I think I saw the mayor who's right over there,
[37:45] and Pembroke Park is barely impacted.
[37:47] Pembroke Park would lose about 1.2%
[37:50] of what he collected in property taxes.
[37:52] Cooper City which has a whole lot of homesteaded properties
[37:55] and not a lot of commercial will lose about 34.5%
[37:57] of what it collected in property taxes.
[38:00] The last one I wanted to bring up before --
[38:04] what may possibly happen.
[38:06] I may -- the language is a little bit vague about
[38:10] what's going to occur.
[38:11] It basically says that after --
[38:22] >> Some would say the Constitution is vague.
[38:24] >> You are 100% right.
[38:26] This is where it gets vague in the language.
[38:28] It basically says that after the $250,000 exemption,
[38:30] the legislature may possibly do some type of schedule
[38:32] to potentially eliminate all homestead property taxes,
[38:35] except for the school portion of the tax bill.
[38:37] And this is one where Lighthouse Point really is impacted.
[38:40] Let me explain.
[38:42] Before we go there, Broward County Commission is 424,899
[38:46] homestead properties.
[38:47] If all property taxes were eliminated
[38:50] for taxing authorities for the school board,
[38:53] the average would be 348 the County Commission levied--
[39:05] about $636 million less than what they levied.
[39:07] So it would Be about a 35.3% decrease.
[39:19] The reason why Lighthouse Point is really impacted
[39:21] is because you have high value properties where people
[39:22] pay a lot of money in their property taxes
[39:24] on their assessed value.
[39:27] There are 3591 homestead properties here
[39:31] in Lighthouse Point.
[39:32] The average savings is pretty large.
[39:33] It's about $8,327, but as you can see, if this was in effect,
[39:39] lighthouse point would have led--
[39:49] to about $11.2 million less-- if it's okay,
[39:57] the two cities that are very much in stark districts--
[40:00] Pembroke Park and Parkland.
[40:03] Which is a pure bedroom community, all homesteaded,
[40:05] will lose about 75.5% of what it collected in Texas.
[40:09] But I do think it's important to note
[40:10] is you know what your public safety budget is.
[40:13] Parkland is about 55%.
[40:14] You lose 75% of what you collect,
[40:17] you still owe 55% for that.
[40:19] The math is kind of weird.
[40:20] That's where something would have to occur.
[40:22] The last part that I wanted to talk about
[40:24] before I answer any questions is what's
[40:27] not getting a whole lot of coverage
[40:29] but it's still part of the amendment.
[40:31] Because even though most people are focusing
[40:32] on the homesteaded portion of it, and so is the news media,
[40:35] there's also a portion for non-homestead properties.
[40:37] So currently under Florida law, all Non-homestead properties
[40:48] cannot go up more than 10% a year,
[40:49] except for the school portion of the tax bill.
[40:49] Even if your market value goes up 50 or 60%,
[40:51] the value tax sign -- this would drop the 10% cap to 5% that
[40:55] basically sets the value cannot go more than 5%,
[40:58] except for the school portion of the tax bill.
[41:01] Countywide, there are 298,191 non homesteaded parcels
[41:05] in the county.
[41:07] Those are all commercial residential
[41:09] that's not homesteaded.
[41:11] The county commission collected about $1.8 billion in taxes.
[41:15] If this was in effect, they would
[41:16] have collected about $1.777 billion in taxes,
[41:19] about $26 million less than what they collected about at 1.5%
[41:24] decrease.
[41:25] Lighthouse Point is not impacted as great as the county.
[41:28] Lighthouse Point would have lost about $187,000,
[41:33] about a 1% decrease.
[41:35] That's the full amendment that's actually
[41:36] going to be on the ballot.
[41:37] And its impact on the county and Lighthouse point.
[41:41] I want to thank you all for giving me the opportunity
[41:43] to speak about it because what I've been doing,
[41:45] I'll be honest with you.
[41:46] I haven't taken a public position on.
[41:48] The reason being is because I do feel
[41:50] like I'm the guy that just has the numbers.
[41:52] And I think it's important to provide all the numbers
[41:54] to the people on Broward County so they can make the best
[41:56] vote possible, both the savings for property owner
[41:59] and the fiscal impact to all of the government, which
[42:01] is exceptionally important.
[42:02] With that said, if you have any questions,
[42:08] it would be my pleasure if I sound a little tired,
[42:11] I'm so sorry.
[42:12] I had about five cups of coffee about three hours ago
[42:15] and I'm starting to come down from.
[42:16] I appreciate you all having me here.
[42:19] And I really do appreciate the great work that you do.
[42:22] I was telling Abby, one of my best friends at one point
[42:26] was the finance director for Lighthouse Point.
[42:30] So he would give me a really good insight
[42:33] into the inner workings of Lighthouse Point.
[42:36] And I have to tell you that the way he would speak
[42:38] about your staff, the work that you do, I actually
[42:41] believe this is one of the best run of all of our 31 cities.
[42:44] Don't tell the other 30 cities I said that.
[42:46] It is so well done.
[42:48] I very much appreciate it.
[42:49] >> Any questions?
[42:58] >> The drop from 10 to 5, that's all Non-homestead --
[43:07] that's commercial and Non-homestead residential?
[43:09] >> Everything that's not exempt.
[43:09] They would all be residential that's not homesteaded
[43:09] and all commercial as well.
[43:09] The only ones that wouldn't apply to, except properties
[43:12] and things of that nature. --
[43:23] Churches, exempt properties.
[43:29] >> Do you have any insight?
[43:30] Still see dropping it from 10 to 5, it reduces the revenue.
[43:33] It just won't be as dramatic.
[43:34] >> You're 100% right.
[43:41] With regard to the current 10% cap and 5% cap,
[43:43] more money is still going to be coming in,
[43:45] just not as good as it would have been.
[43:47] It's going to be very interesting let's
[43:55] see what happens in November.
[43:58] The one thing I do tell people, which I think is important,
[44:00] amending the Constitution is a very big deal.
[44:04] Personally, if somebody in public office that you think
[44:07] may not be doing the greatest job,
[44:09] you could put somebody else in that office.
[44:09] You amend the Constitution there for perpetuity,
[44:11] and that's why it's a very hard thing to do.
[44:13] I'm hoping that every single resident in the state of Florida
[44:16] that's likely to vote does their research
[44:18] and votes the best way possible.
[44:19] The only thing I've learned as well
[44:21] is not a partisan issue at all.
[44:31] I've talked to Democrats Republicans and people
[44:33] on all sides, and it's going to be a very interesting.
[44:33] I think it's more just an individual vote as to what
[44:34] people think is best for them.
[44:35] Just one of the things if it's okay,
[44:38] and it's been tried in other places.
[44:40] And I think it's fascinating it shows it's not partisan.
[44:42] North Dakota actually tried to eliminate all property taxes
[44:45] in 2024.
[44:46] North Dakota is a pretty red place.
[44:50] It's even redder than Florida.
[44:52] I think Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris by about 34 points
[44:55] in North Dakota.
[44:56] At the same time, the amendment to eliminate all property taxes
[44:59] only received about 35, 36% of the vote.
[45:03] I think it's going to be a very interesting vote,
[45:06] it's an individual.
[45:08] Thank you for having me today.
[45:17] Anything I can ever do.
[45:18] Just let me know.
[45:19] >> Do any residents have any questions?
[45:26] can you come down to give your name for the record?
[45:36] >> I want to tell you this is awesome.
[45:37] Very few places I've ever been to in the City Commission where
[45:37] the commission actually says, would the residents
[45:37] like to ask a question.
[45:38] That is fantastic.
[45:40] >> Bob Clampett, resident of Lighthouse Point since 2018
[45:53] and Broward County property owner since 1971.
[45:55] A couple of questions.
[45:55] The young people in Broward are having a hard time
[45:57] affording to buy a house.
[45:59] Are there any local or state initiatives that
[46:01] are in the hopper that you know of that
[46:06] might be able to give these young people a break?
[46:15] Because once you put insurance and the property taxes
[46:17] onto a mortgage, a lot of these people
[46:22] can't even qualify that normally would.
[46:24] That's a long term resident, somebody that grew up here,
[46:28] what are you doing, what is the state doing, what
[46:32] is the county commission doing to help these people?
[46:34] >> That's such a great question.
[46:39] Thank you so much.
[46:40] It's something I worry about all the time.
[46:40] I have two daughters.
[46:41] They are 17 and 14 .
[46:47] I love them so much.
[46:52] And one thing I worry about is when
[46:54] they're ready to buy a home, they
[46:54] won't be able to afford a home, and they're gonna move.
[46:56] That is a very cost prohibitive place--
[47:02] that is one area where I think people do need tax relief.
[47:05] Because you've been a long term profiteer,
[47:07] and you've bought a home in 2016, as soon as you buy your--
[47:18] the taxes are astronomical.
[47:19] Unfortunately right now, there really
[47:21] isn't anything you can do in the Florida law.
[47:23] What we do is if somebody buys a home, we reach out to them.
[47:29] We try to make sure they get all the current exemptions that
[47:31] are there, whether it's a homestead exemption or anything
[47:34] else.
[47:34] If they want to sit down and we'll
[47:37] go through the property with them,
[47:38] and we'll see if they overpaid or if it's not
[47:40] reflective with other sales in the area.
[47:42] Any way we can try to bring it down a little bit.
[47:44] It is very hard for them.
[47:46] I do know there are some cities every once in a while that
[47:51] would have certain incentives.
[47:52] Usually they can be income based.
[47:54] There's really not a whole lot available for them.
[47:58] And I appreciate that.
[48:04] One thing that I think is important,
[48:07] whether this passes or not, a lot of people
[48:09] actually don't know what happens to their property taxes
[48:09] when they buy their home.
[48:09] Because if somebody bought your home, you've been in your home
[48:12] for 40 years--
[48:20] 2018.
[48:21] If somebody bought your home, that first year, they're
[48:25] gonna get the same text that you're gonna get,
[48:25] which is probably going to be a very manageable text
[48:26] but overall.
[48:26] And what happens is the year after, that's
[48:29] when they get their new tax bill based on their purchase price.
[48:32] The one thing we try to do, especially for younger people
[48:35] is we try to direct them to their tax estimator
[48:37] so they really understand what's going
[48:40] to be the tax implications of their property,
[48:42] so they can really make sure they can afford it.
[48:44] That was a great question.
[48:45] I wish I had a better direct answer to you of how
[48:48] we can help them, but there are very few ways
[48:50] right now under the law.
[49:00] Great question.
[49:03] >> Any other questions?
[49:07] >> This is like the best ever.
[49:09] I love this.
[49:17] >> 2015 Northeast 39th Street.
[49:18] Your projections are based on 2025 property values.
[49:21] This is not taken to presumption that right now property values
[49:24] are-- sale prices is more of a buyer's market.
[49:37] If the amendment were to pass, then we
[49:39] could assume that property taxes were
[49:40] to be potentially lower if property sales go down.
[49:43] Does that make sense?
[49:57] >> Lisa, you make a very good point.
[50:00] The one thing that's certain about property
[50:01] is it's in certain.
[50:01] And it basically you're the year values go up and down.
[50:01] And the way that works is January 1st,
[50:03] what we call our date of assessment,
[50:06] when you're in November, the tax bill comes out.
[50:10] It's what-- other times you can have a crash.
[50:19] It can make it go way down.
[50:20] This year, for the most part values
[50:20] are going up for the most part.
[50:20] Not as dramatically as before, but they're
[50:23] leveling out a little bit.
[50:25] But you could have, in 2026 when we look at all the numbers,
[50:33] because it doesn't take effect until 2027.
[50:35] And I don't know if this is the case.
[50:35] Let's say we see a decline in property values.
[50:37] Then you are right.
[50:38] Next year will not only be less money coming in because
[50:41] of the exemption, but the assessed value
[50:44] could go down as well.
[50:45] It all depends.
[50:46] Does that help answer your question?
[50:47] It's a great question.
[50:50] >> Any other questions?
[51:02] >> Mike was Dizzy, president of Lighthouse Point since 1996.
[51:05] I just want to say thank you very much for being here today.
[51:05] I will tell you this, very rarely do I
[51:08] write government officials.
[51:21] [Laughter] It's an inside joke.
[51:25] But just to let you know that when I have written you,
[51:27] it's great to know that the service level that both you,
[51:32] personal emails that you can get from Mardhekar
[51:34] and also for your, it's been fantastic.
[51:37] Just keep up the great work.
[51:39] Just a quick question on protection.
[51:40] Do you have anything that you could at least enlighten
[51:43] people on regards to that?
[51:44] >> That actually makes me feel so good.
[51:51] A few years ago I wanted to answer 10,000 emails very bad.
[51:53] On December 31st, I was 9999.
[51:55] Nobody wanted to email me, so I emailed myself and got the ten
[51:59] 000.
[52:00] Unfortunately, South Florida is the title Fraud capital
[52:04] of the world.
[52:05] It's the capital of the because you have criminals,
[52:07] and what they do is they walk into a recording divisions,
[52:10] they file fake deeds on people's properties
[52:13] and they take those deeds, and they extort people for money.
[52:17] Well we wanted to do a few years ago was basically
[52:19] give people the opportunity to be notified if somebody did that
[52:22] to them.
[52:22] So we found we did a fantastic thing called owner alert.
[52:26] It's a notification program that lets
[52:28] people know if somebody changes the title to the property.
[52:30] Anybody can sign up, in Lighthouse Point
[52:32] has been a great partner in helping people sign up here.
[52:34] If anybody wants to sign up, they go to our website at. .net
[52:38] they type in their name.
[52:40] They type in their email address.
[52:42] And if anybody tries to file a deed in their property,
[52:45] whether it's legitimate or not, they'll
[52:54] be notified instantaneously by email, text message.
[52:57] It's free to the public.
[52:57] All the information we collect is
[52:57] exempt from public disclosure.
[52:57] We've had almost 380,000 property owners so far.
[52:59] I believe if I'm remembering, 68% of Lighthouse points
[53:09] have signed up, which I think is really great.
[53:11] Along those lines when we started this program,
[53:21] I started getting emails and phone calls from residents.
[53:23] And somebody just changed the title to my property,
[53:23] but I didn't do it.
[53:23] And I got more and more.
[53:24] I realized how big of a deal it was.
[53:25] I came up with the idea.
[53:27] I wanted to work with law enforcement
[53:28] and put people in jail who do this.
[53:30] So I got the approval from the state of Florida
[53:31] to be able to have what I call crimes against my property to.
[53:34] We then entered an agreement with the Sheriff's office where
[53:37] Sheriff -- to Florida Department of--- we also work with FBI
[53:53] and other police forces throughout the county
[53:54] and our job is to find people that steal people's properties
[53:54] and put them in jail.
[53:55] And we've had more than a thousand
[53:56] individual criminal cases.
[53:57] We've had hundreds of convictions.
[53:59] And we work with the court system
[54:01] to get properties back to people in a cost efficient manner
[54:03] and I'll just give you one quick example.
[54:05] Just to show people what these people will do.
[54:11] There's one case, which I'm really proud of.
[54:21] And I'll bring it up because my legal counsel is here.
[54:24] She was my witness in it.
[54:24] That's Mila Schwartz rich.
[54:24] She's a great lawyer.
[54:24] There was one case where there was
[54:26] a man that Stole a senior's home in Limerick.
[54:28] And you have to understand the people
[54:30] that they prey upon are usually the most vulnerable people.
[54:33] Stole the seniors home Stole the seniors life savings.
[54:36] Did some terrific things.
[54:37] He decided to go to a.
[54:39] The jury found him guilty unanimously.
[54:40] Then he walked up to the judge, who Was Judge Odom.
[54:50] And he said, when do I come back from my sentencing?
[54:55] And he said you have about 15 seconds.
[54:57] And he gave him 15 years.
[54:57] That's how the sentences are getting.
[54:59] And I'm happy because they pick on the most vulnerable people.
[55:03] Typical seniors.
[55:04] They pick on people with disabilities.
[55:06] And my goal is to make sure they work hard
[55:11] and make sure they spend it very long time in prison.
[55:15] Thank you so much for asking that question and to make
[55:18] a long winded statement, if anybody in lighthouse--
[55:30] I also want to thank you all because you allow us
[55:33] all the time to have our staff here
[55:33] as well, which has made it so convenient for the public.
[55:35] >> Fourth Monday.
[55:42] >> It's so helpful.
[55:43] I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.
[55:45] The one thing about my job is you get
[55:45] to help a whole lot of people.
[55:46] The most difficult thing is you don't always-- you
[55:50] get to help everybody you know you can't help.
[55:55] When a city allows you to be here and have your staff here.
[55:57] You're actually helping me reach people
[56:01] I can't reach out on my own.
[56:02] So I want to thank you all so much for that.
[56:04] >> Any other questions?
[56:18] >> Shelly Campbell, 1920 Northeast 29th Street pier
[56:20] my question is for the Commissioner.
[56:21] What is the city's plan to offset the shortfall in revenue
[56:21] of this amendment passes?
[56:23] What is the city going to do to maintain that?
[56:27] >> I will start with this.
[56:36] I will echo what Marty says.
[56:37] The fact that we have run a very conservative fiscal city
[56:37] since we've been in existence.
[56:39] And we continuously have the best staff
[56:43] and we stay competitive at the highest
[56:46] round we don't have first time home buyer exemptions
[56:49] and we don't have a lot of these things.
[56:51] We don't give out money to charities
[56:53] and we do very little of that stuff.
[56:55] With that being said over the last couple of years,
[57:07] we have taken the money in the revenue that's increased
[57:09] and we have really dumped it back in our infrastructure.
[57:09] As we continuously dump it back in our infrastructure,
[57:10] I tell people all the time that the cost of living
[57:12] may be 3 or 4% and the tax revenue is definitely coming in.
[57:27] The projects that we're doing have gone up year
[57:30] over year, 25%.
[57:32] Well we built the bridge Four in 2022. $3.9 million
[57:42] is now going to be run here in 2027.
[57:43] Somewhere around $7.5 million.
[57:43] The city of Lighthouse Point is also a big page --
[57:46] I believe what you see around here
[57:48] and when you look at the library,
[57:49] you look at the police and the fire.
[57:51] You look at the unsung heroes here at Public Works
[57:54] and you look at our recreational departments.
[57:56] You look at all of the departments.
[57:58] And these people have to get paid
[58:00] so we need a good finance department
[58:01] and we need a great leader.
[58:03] We need legal and city clerks.
[58:05] You cannot pay them substandard wages and expect the best
[58:12] service.
[58:14] With that being said, you will definitely
[58:17] see our goals looking at what we will
[58:19] see whether it's 150 or 250.
[58:19] 150 would be the elimination of a lot of long term capital
[58:21] improvement projects we've delayed from 20 years ago.
[58:33] 250 star would definitely -- it's hard to say when you look
[58:36] at what's important, I get everybody says police and fire?
[58:38] They became an unprotected aspect of it.
[58:41] Everybody thinks police and fire will stay the same.
[58:43] They are not protected.
[58:44] It's hard to say that we're going to go ahead and cut down--
[58:54] get rid of a public library or public works pier
[58:58] it's going to be collective across the board.
[59:04] The assessments will be part of it.
[59:05] And I remind people that those are not tax exempt either.
[59:05] You cannot write those off on your taxes.
[59:07] That's unfortunate--
[59:20] you can't assess for certain things.
[59:21] The assessment for fire is only used for fire assessment.
[59:25] I would say as you look at it, there's
[59:25] a conversation of what Marty was mentioning.
[59:25] Some of the money, whether they would raise sales tax
[59:28] or how they would have an off site-- folks that
[59:38] don't know here, for the last four years
[59:40] have had a lobbyist and we've gone to Tallahassee
[59:40] and asked for money because we put a lot of money
[59:40] into the coffers, and we don't get a lot back
[59:42] for the city of lighthouse point.
[59:48] I remind residents when you see your textbook,
[59:50] 21.2% of the bill that you pay comes to Lighthouse Point Pier
[59:53] everything else goes somewhere else.
[59:58] So if your tax bill is $10,000, we're not getting $10,000.
[1:00:02] This year we had roughly two and a half, $3 million
[1:00:17] worth of appropriations.
[1:00:18] So when the money's up in Tallahassee, your project,
[1:00:24] your appropriations, your needs and wants.
[1:00:31] Sometimes-- a really little fishing in a really big pond.
[1:00:34] I stress about it every night.
[1:00:35] That's why I'm looking like this.
[1:00:41] If not I'd have Jason's hair.
[1:00:43] >> I'm getting gray.
[1:00:47] >> I'm the one thing I forgot to mention.
[1:00:50] The court did rule recently that they
[1:00:54] have to-- all of that really means
[1:00:56] is the way the law works it was written,
[1:00:57] so the Attorney general was supposed to redo the language.
[1:00:58] It's still going to be on the ballot.
[1:01:00] It will be in different format.
[1:01:02] The language will be a little different
[1:01:03] than what's currently there.
[1:01:17] >> She's behind.
[1:01:20] >> Hello.
[1:01:22] Good to see you.
[1:01:23] The, you have my address on record.
[1:01:25] So when the lieutenant governor was here a couple of weeks ago.
[1:01:27] He mentioned that in Tallahassee there's a surplus of funds
[1:01:30] and that they would be weeded out accordingly
[1:01:35] if CDs were in need.
[1:01:36] And then a couple of weeks later, our appropriations
[1:01:36] did not come through.
[1:01:36] I realize that's a different thing that he's talking about.
[1:01:39] My question is about the ballot language.
[1:01:41] Is there anything in the ballot that
[1:01:43] talks about money coming down from Tallahassee
[1:01:47] and how that gets appropriated to according to me, whoever's
[1:02:04] the best friends up there?
[1:02:07] Is there anything in the ballot protecting residents
[1:02:09] to make sure that lighthouse would
[1:02:11] get the same appropriations?
[1:02:17] >> Great questions.
[1:02:17] The answer is no.
[1:02:24] The thing is, when the governor had
[1:02:28] proposed his plans to the legislature,
[1:02:29] it had a trust fund in there.
[1:02:29] And what the governor had advocated
[1:02:31] for was that the trust fund would be utilized by the-- it
[1:02:37] would be utilized to help fiscally constrained counties.
[1:02:44] For example, Lighthouse Point ultimately lost
[1:02:46] 6% of its revenue.-- it took out the trust fund
[1:02:53] because the support wasn't there for it
[1:02:55] so right now when you look at the plain wording of it,
[1:02:55] it doesn't show how any revenue will be allocated.
[1:02:58] One thing I think is such a good question
[1:03:00] because I was thinking about this as you were talking.
[1:03:06] There are more than 400 some our throughout the state of Florida
[1:03:13] and there are 67 counties.
[1:03:14] Every county and every city can just do different things.
[1:03:14] Depending on who's elected in those areas.
[1:03:14] Some counties and some cities say, we have a level of service.
[1:03:17] Service is very important.
[1:03:19] We want to fund everything the way it is.
[1:03:21] Maybe it will increase fees, millage rates and do
[1:03:23] all kinds of different things.
[1:03:25] Others say that people voted for a tax help.
[1:03:27] We're just going to cut.
[1:03:29] So it will be all over the place.
[1:03:31] It's almost like a mortgage sport.
[1:03:33] I want to bring it up because nobody really
[1:03:35] knows what's going to happen with that.
[1:03:36] Great question.
[1:03:39] Thank you for that.
[1:03:51] >> Anybody else?
[1:03:51] >> Can I jump on one more thing?
[1:03:54] I want to commend you all because it's not
[1:03:54] easy to get an appropriation all the way to the government,
[1:03:57] whether the governor signs it or vetoes it in the budget.
[1:04:06] It's a very hard process.
[1:04:07] I was in the legislature for six years.
[1:04:07] Everybody wants money.
[1:04:07] They did every single state representative and state senator
[1:04:08] to bring stuff back to the communities,
[1:04:10] and everybody's fighting for it and the fact
[1:04:12] that you all were able to get appropriations up,
[1:04:30] it's pretty impressive feat. think it's pretty commendable.
[1:04:34] Thank you.
[1:04:40] [Applause]
[1:04:41] >> Moving on, we now have public comments requests from
[1:04:43] the floor. have an open there with our property If anybody
[1:04:43] would to come up and address an issue.
[1:04:43] Come forward and state your name and address and will you be
[1:04:46] given three minutes to speak.
[1:04:50] Anybody coming forward?
[1:04:53] I'm not seeing anybody.
[1:05:16] >> Come on up.
[1:05:18] >> I'm David Mangold.
[1:05:20] I live in 4001, Northeast 27th terrace.
[1:05:28] I thought a lot the sidewalk issue I
[1:05:30] on the west The sidewalks going to go on the east side.
[1:05:43] I assume there's quite traffic study done.
[1:05:45] I have lived in my home since 1998.
[1:05:54] 28 years.
[1:05:55] I have children that were born in that house and raised.
[1:06:03] The traffic has been horrendous every day for years and years.
[1:06:14] The police hardly ever come there
[1:06:17] to check people with their radar gun or whatever for speeding.
[1:06:22] They Finally put in two speed bumps which works a little bit.
[1:06:24] They speed between speed bumps from 39
[1:06:26] to the first speed bump in front of my house
[1:06:33] to the next speed bump.
[1:06:34] It seemed they drove even faster coming back
[1:06:36] after having a lunch, or a cocktail or a beer.
[1:06:46] We're lucky that no kids have ever been hurt or killed
[1:06:48] on that street.
[1:06:48] So what I'm getting at is the traffic study
[1:06:54] was done, which I don't know about.
[1:07:00] So they think pedestrians walking their dogs or whatever
[1:07:02] would be safer on a sidewalk, which has some merits to it.
[1:07:14] The reason the sidewalk is thought about
[1:07:17] is because maybe it's a requirement of the yacht club
[1:07:17] and their plans to make the community safer
[1:07:18] for people driving to and from the yacht club.
[1:07:21] I don't know how many cars, new cars are going to be there
[1:07:26] when all of these condos are built.
[1:07:28] It's going to be significant.
[1:07:31] And when they build a new restaurant,
[1:07:44] the yacht club members will be coming and coming.
[1:07:47] I have thoughts and wondered all along,
[1:07:50] a parallel street east of us is called Northeast 30th Avenue.
[1:07:56] And that goes right in-- it could go right
[1:08:05] into the Yacht club.
[1:08:06] I would think that it would be very wise to share the burden
[1:08:09] off of my street by having 27th terrace for the traffic
[1:08:11] into the yacht club, 30th Avenue out.
[1:08:23] One way in, one way out.
[1:08:32] If there's no requirements by the city to have 30th cut
[1:08:37] through, remove one of the tennis courts,
[1:08:39] and its into the parking lot.
[1:08:40] That seems pretty wise to me.
[1:08:42] >> Thank you very much for bringing it to our attention.
[1:08:50] >> Can you tell me, what's a traffic study done on 27th?
[1:09:01] >> Yes.
[1:09:02] >> And is there a requirement by the Yacht Club to have
[1:09:02] a sidewalk?
[1:09:02] >> It's in their development agreement.
[1:09:08] >> And has there been any discussion or decisions about
[1:09:12] utilizing Northeast 30th avenue?
[1:09:20] I think one way in and one way out would be perfect.
[1:09:22] Are both ways in and both ways out,
[1:09:22] because there is people that would choose to use 30th versus
[1:09:22] 27th terrace.
[1:09:24] >> The development that was done over the last eight years.
[1:09:38] The development itself came back with what the design is,
[1:09:43] which is an in and out on 27th terrace.
[1:09:52] >> The guy you gotta talk to is back there if he wants to change
[1:09:55] it.
[1:09:55] It might be a tough list at this point.
[1:09:56] >> The city can orchestrate anything.
[1:10:05] Why not?
[1:10:06] >> Because we have already passed and approved the site
[1:10:09] plan several years ago.
[1:10:14] >> In addition to the sidewalks, there's a provision that
[1:10:19] requires them to do permanent traffic-- which would include--
[1:10:32] (Indiscernible) -- the narrowing of the street,
[1:10:48] the addition of the striping and the added speed bump should also
[1:11:00] help reduce >> I'd really like to see those speed signs that
[1:11:03] blink when you exceed 25.
[1:11:04] In 28 years, I can count with two hands
[1:11:04] the number of times there's ever been a police car with speed
[1:11:07] monitoring device.
[1:11:14] But they are all over other places.
[1:11:27] >> Thank you.
[1:11:28] Any other public comments or requests from the floor?
[1:11:30] We will close public comments.
[1:11:40] No reports from city administration.
[1:11:41] No department reports.
[1:11:41] No reports from the city attorney.
[1:11:41] Code enforcement is going to meet the August 18th.
[1:11:41] Community appearance is August 20th.
[1:11:43] Lighting-- moving on to the consent agenda.
[1:11:55] Is there anything that we need to pull from the consent agenda?
[1:11:57] Hearing none.
[1:12:00] Do we have a second?
[1:12:03] We have a motion and a second on the consent agenda
[1:12:05] all those in favor signify by saying aye.
[1:12:08] The motion passes four zero.
[1:12:11] Moving on to unfinished business continued discussion
[1:12:13] on the implementation of off site sidewalk improvements
[1:12:22] identified in section 11.2.3 of the development agreement with
[1:12:24] Lighthouse Point Yacht Club.
[1:12:32] >> Good evening. (Indiscernible)--
[1:12:35] in accordance with the terms of developers-- (Indiscernible)--
[1:12:49] On February 14th, 2023, the city Commission previously discussed
[1:12:59] sidewalk improvements required under section 11.2.3
[1:13:02] of the developer's agreement.
[1:13:14] During the discussion, (Indiscernible)--
[1:13:21] several residents attended the February 14th meeting to provide
[1:13:24] public comment. (Indiscernible)--
[1:13:28] the city Commission acknowledged that they were sensitive
[1:13:36] to concerns raised by the residents.
[1:13:38] However, they did not support eliminating the sidewalk
[1:13:42] requirements at the time, and the item be further discussed.
[1:13:45] On July 29th, that was a week or so ago,
[1:13:56] residents on Northeast 27 terrace were again surveyed
[1:13:58] regarding the sidewalk project.
[1:14:00] The results-- seven of the ten homeowners
[1:14:05] were in favor of putting in sidewalks.
[1:14:07] One was against the installation sidewalks.
[1:14:07] One was undecided.
[1:14:07] And we were unable to reach -- residents on the west side
[1:14:08] of 27th terrace.
[1:14:09] Seven of those residents were in favor of the sidewalk.
[1:14:12] One was against and there were six homeowners
[1:14:15] that we were not able to reach.
[1:14:18] We believe that the change the number of people that
[1:14:22] are in favor of the sidewalk is based on the idea
[1:14:26] that we would be leaving the sidewalks down the street
[1:14:29] and not having it all six feet up until--
[1:14:41] on some places the sidewalk would
[1:14:45] be along the edge of the road to minimize the effects
[1:14:47] of these large trees.
[1:14:51] Some of the residents were at one time opposed to sidewalk.
[1:14:58] The city has engaged Keith.
[1:15:05] The city engineer-- the installation of sidewalks
[1:15:10] will include all the improvements
[1:15:11] necessary to complete the sidewalk project.
[1:15:20] As part of your attachment and your agenda report,
[1:15:22] there's a copy of the Engineering
[1:15:22] and project across estimates.
[1:15:23] The cost of the improvement, including engineering
[1:15:30] and the responsibility is the responsibility of developer
[1:15:33] in accordance with section 11.2.3 -- (Indiscernible).
[1:15:42] I believe we probably have some residents here that live on 27th
[1:15:49] terrace that might like to speak on the topic.
[1:15:56] Also, we have Tom Green from Keith Engineering,
[1:16:03] was here except the project and give a presentation
[1:16:05] on preliminary engineering plans that were conducted
[1:16:08] and to answer any questions that you might have.
[1:16:13] I would ask Tom come up before we get started.
[1:16:15] Give his presentation.
[1:16:24] >> Thank you.
[1:16:25] Good evening, Mayor, Commission.
[1:16:34] Tom green with-- the requested by the city to look
[1:16:38] at the feasibility of installing the sidewalk on 27th terrace
[1:16:41] with a focus on trying to install on the east side.
[1:16:56] >> It's up and down.
[1:17:14] >> All right.
[1:17:15] To put this in context, we're focused on 27th terrace.
[1:17:16] The site map is showing identifying the location
[1:17:16] of the potential project.
[1:17:16] And our goal is to look at a very high conceptual level,
[1:17:16] is it feasible to install this and not focus on the east side
[1:17:18] of 27th terrace.
[1:17:20] And we went out there and looked at existing conditions
[1:17:23] as you make your way from left to right.
[1:17:25] You're really working away from South and Oracle.
[1:17:29] That's at the intersection of 39th and then advancing your way
[1:17:32] toward -- as you looked at it, we came up with this conceptual
[1:17:50] plan.
[1:17:51] What you're looking on the screen
[1:17:51] is a concept plan at the top.
[1:17:51] It's the sections at the bottom.
[1:17:51] There are a lot of above ground impediments,
[1:17:51] as I flashed back to the previous slide.
[1:17:51] You can really see that highlighted
[1:17:51] in the bottom in the middle.
[1:17:52] Either utility poles or the nice existing tree canopy
[1:17:58] and other things that we want to avoid as we
[1:18:00] install the sidewalk.
[1:18:01] In this concept plan in the green areas
[1:18:04] we're trying to keep a minimum of a six foot setback
[1:18:09] for the front face of the sidewalk
[1:18:11] from the back edge of the curve, or the edge of the pavement.
[1:18:14] And we see it delineated in yellow.
[1:18:16] That's where the sidewalk is now hugging closer
[1:18:18] to the edge of the road.
[1:18:19] And now we're separating pedestrians
[1:18:20] from the traffic with the-- if you
[1:18:36] look at the bottom of the screen for the typical section
[1:18:38] on the left hand side, that is your curb condition
[1:18:38] and on the bottom right hand side, that
[1:18:38] is your on current condition.
[1:18:38] We're keeping our daily six foot setback
[1:18:38] for the base of the sidewalk.
[1:18:38] And as we advance further north, you
[1:18:40] can see that the sidewalk meanders slightly.
[1:18:42] The goal was trying to create that setback.
[1:18:45] And that's really for drainage purposes.
[1:18:47] Once we introduce a gutter condition,
[1:18:51] you have water that's running down the edge of the curb.
[1:18:54] Without a lot of existing drainage infrastructure,
[1:18:57] there's potential for a spread.
[1:19:00] We don't want to interrupt existing service on the roadway
[1:19:05] by introducing this improvements.
[1:19:07] So we can take advantage of existing grass conditions.
[1:19:27] (Indiscernible)-- and then just to put this into perspective,
[1:19:29] these are the two typical sections that we previously
[1:19:30] showed.
[1:19:30] The one at the top of the screen is your-- this would be an ideal
[1:19:46] location where you can have some minimum setback from the edge
[1:19:49] of the roadway and installed --
[1:19:49] on the bottom of the screen you can see where
[1:19:49] because of existing landscaping, just not
[1:19:49] wanting to create a lot of upsets or additional costs
[1:19:50] for this, and really trying to maintain additional landscaping
[1:19:53] where feasible.
[1:19:54] We introduced that and where the driveways are that's
[1:19:58] where it goes down to create that condition.
[1:20:01] It continues through and once you're past the driveway
[1:20:03] connection, that's where it starts to flare back up and you
[1:20:07] --
[1:20:08] >> Can I ask a question?
[1:20:21] Where the back of that car is where the driveway is,
[1:20:23] the sidewalk is going to go down and then come back up again?
[1:20:26] >> I'm going to point to the screen.
[1:20:32] It's a little hard to see.
[1:20:33] At the very bottom of the screen,
[1:20:33] you can see where the curb is raised above your gutter.
[1:20:33] As you approach the driveway, it starts to layer down
[1:20:33] to create that position.
[1:20:34] So your car is not popping over the curb at the driveway.
[1:20:37] And once you get past the driveway curbs,
[1:20:39] the curb starts to--
[1:20:55] >> I'm more concerned about the sidewalk than the driveway.
[1:20:57] If you're going down the driveway in a wheelchair,
[1:20:57] or you're walking in your handicap,
[1:20:58] you're gonna go down and then come back up again?
[1:21:09] >> Again, let me jump back to these conceptual plans.
[1:21:14] Without actual survey done, this is at a very high concept level.
[1:21:17] It is feasible to install.
[1:21:17] Everything we're talking about is going
[1:21:17] to be the Ada requirements.
[1:21:17] In terms of your running, not exceeding a 5%.
[1:21:17] In terms of your cross loop not exceeding at 2%,
[1:21:19] everything has to be done to meet that Ada requirements
[1:21:22] and be Ada compliant.
[1:21:24] >> You're saying it is feasible to build and be based upon--
[1:21:44] >> Yes, it is feasible.
[1:21:46] And when the survey comes in, it's really important
[1:21:46] because you're fighting for fractions of an inch
[1:21:46] to come hit these tolerances.
[1:21:47] Everything you built, it's not designed for 2%.
[1:21:50] It's designed for 1.5%.
[1:22:06] >> And some sections are going to be conceptually or feet
[1:22:09] and some would be six feet -- it's to make it wider where it
[1:22:09] can be wider?
[1:22:09] You ideally want to maintain a five foot wide sidewalk.
[1:22:11] A lot of what we follow is the-- existing conditions
[1:22:26] really tell the picture of what we're up against.
[1:22:28] It's kind of a tricky lift in order
[1:22:28] to make all of this happen.
[1:22:29] >> In the bottom right, in some conditions,
[1:22:37] where you cannot achieve that five foot width,
[1:22:38] and there's existing above ground impediments that cannot
[1:22:38] move or feasible to move, dot contemplates getting down
[1:22:39] to a minimum width.
[1:22:40] So I believe it could be a skinny as about 36 inch
[1:22:44] wide sidewalk.
[1:22:45] Our goal is to maintain a continuous five foot width.
[1:22:49] Once you get into the survey, (Indiscernible)--
[1:23:07] I'm going to end on these conditions.
[1:23:08] This is what the conditions look like.
[1:23:10] And this is a very high level at the feasibility standpoint.
[1:23:13] And we can take advantage of the natural circulation
[1:23:17] and try to take advantage of the green space.
[1:23:40] >> Any questions for Mr. Green?
[1:23:42] >> Thank you very much.
[1:23:53] >> Before we discuss anything, do we want to invite people up?
[1:24:00] Are there any residents here?
[1:24:09] >> Good evening.
[1:24:10] My name is Dalia.
[1:24:10] I'm a resident on 27th terrace on the east side.
[1:24:10] Also a member of the yacht club.
[1:24:10] When this issue came up two years ago,
[1:24:10] there was significant opposition to this project
[1:24:13] for multiple reasons.
[1:24:22] Number one, creating a sidewalk for people
[1:24:24] who are walking their dogs, it doesn't
[1:24:24] eliminate the high speed traffic that
[1:24:24] is going up and down the road.
[1:24:24] Putting in a sidewalk does not help the speeding issue.
[1:24:24] It doesn't help provide safety.
[1:24:26] People are doing e-bikes, scooters.
[1:24:28] They're going to be using the sidewalk.
[1:24:30] There's sidewalks all through Lighthouse Point
[1:24:32] that are not used, people are still using the street.
[1:24:35] So to put it in a sidewalk and destroy seven driveways
[1:24:38] that are affected.
[1:24:39] There are seven homes that have pavers and driveways that
[1:24:41] are going to be affected by this project.
[1:24:43] The one that you saw there was my home with a circular driveway
[1:24:47] and three royal palms that are 40 years old.
[1:24:49] There's no way to maintain those royal palms with the sidewalk
[1:24:52] that you proposed.
[1:24:57] Period.
[1:25:01] And that's not fair to the homeowners
[1:25:08] that lined the street to get rid of their property to destroy it.
[1:25:10] I get that it's an easement, but this is not a public works
[1:25:11] project.
[1:25:11] This is not necessary.
[1:25:11] So you can put in the speed bumps.
[1:25:11] We can put in eliminated speed limit sign.
[1:25:12] You can decrease the speed limit,
[1:25:14] but this is not necessary.
[1:25:15] There's no way that we talk to our person who maintains our.
[1:25:18] There's no way to maintain the royal palms
[1:25:21] with this demonstration.
[1:25:23] And we were not polled.
[1:25:39] Nobody came to us and asked us if we were in favor of this
[1:25:43] or not.
[1:25:43] That's number one.
[1:25:43] And our neighbors have also said the same thing.
[1:25:43] So we got an AI demonstration afterwards saying,
[1:25:43] from whoever came by they said, this
[1:25:43] is what we're proposing to do.
[1:25:44] But we weren't told to say are you in favor of this,
[1:25:47] or are you in opposition of this?
[1:25:48] That didn't happen.
[1:25:50] The root point is that creating a sidewalk
[1:25:54] doesn't solve the problem of the speed limit.
[1:25:58] So you can do things to affect the speed,
[1:26:01] and whatever is in the development's agreement
[1:26:04] to affect the speed.
[1:26:05] You can mark that money for that.
[1:26:08] Seven driveways that are going to be
[1:26:10] affected by this, that is significant and affects property
[1:26:13] value.
[1:26:13] And who's going to be legally responsible for when
[1:26:16] there's drainage issues?
[1:26:17] When they scrub the pipes underneath our homes?
[1:26:20] When we have problems?
[1:26:22] Who's going to be liable for?
[1:26:23] The city?
[1:26:42] >> That's a legal issue if it happens.
[1:26:46] >> It needs to be considered because there's a lot of homes
[1:26:46] that are involved here.
[1:26:47] To put something in for esthetics, that doesn't work.
[1:26:58] >> I understand.
[1:27:00] Anybody else?
[1:27:03] Anybody online that would like to address this issue?
[1:27:17] >> Yes, he's able to speak now.
[1:27:21] >> Hi, can you hear me?
[1:27:24] >> Name and address, please.
[1:27:30] >> (Indiscernible)--
[1:27:31] >> Go for it.
[1:27:33] >> (Indiscernible)
[1:28:02] >> Thank you very much.
[1:28:05] Sir.
[1:28:08] >> David Mangold, 4001 Northeast 27th terrace, lighthouse point.
[1:28:17] Can you tell me how many units are planned
[1:28:18] to be built at the Yacht Club?
[1:28:29] >> 22.
[1:28:33] >> 21 townhomes, 1 single family home.
[1:28:41] >> 22.
[1:28:42] Let's say they had 22 cars each.
[1:28:42] They might have three.
[1:28:42] Let's say two cars for each.
[1:28:43] That's 44 additional people coming and going,
[1:28:48] one or more times, every day.
[1:28:55] Are they planning on building a restaurant?
[1:28:57] I was a member of the Yacht Club for years.
[1:28:57] We enjoyed going to the restaurant there.
[1:28:59] Do you know if they're going to build restaurants?
[1:29:12] >> Yes, a very nice one.
[1:29:16] >> So there is that traffic.
[1:29:17] And then they'll have a few tennis courts remaining.
[1:29:17] There's that traffic.
[1:29:17] And then they have the boats.
[1:29:18] The slips.
[1:29:20] A lot of traffic.
[1:29:31] It's really too bad that somebody can't force the issue
[1:29:34] of using 30th Avenue as an additional entry point.
[1:29:36] And just think during construction
[1:29:39] of, A, the sidewalk, and B, when they're bulldozing and building
[1:29:50] in the yacht club.
[1:29:51] Think about the dump trucks.
[1:29:57] >> Several years ago, it was all considered.
[1:30:01] We are where we are.
[1:30:02] Trust me, I was there.
[1:30:07] >> Well, let's hope the people and the children remain safe
[1:30:10] on that street for years to come.
[1:30:17] >> Thank you.
[1:30:22] Anybody else?
[1:30:26] Commissioners, I know where I want to start on this one.
[1:30:31] I remember that fateful day in 2023 when we first
[1:30:33] discussed this certain handsome young gentleman out there
[1:30:33] in the audience who came up here,
[1:30:36] bright eyed and bushy tailed, addressed this commission
[1:30:47] on this topic.
[1:30:56] >> My view has not changed on it.
[1:30:57] I've been vocal about that.
[1:30:57] Just for the safety of the people that are on 27th terrace,
[1:31:00] put in the peninsula of the area where the mayor livers,
[1:31:13] many of the residents.
[1:31:14] To Mr. Mann point, the traffic is going to increase.
[1:31:14] It's a dark street.
[1:31:14] Traffic coming out at night--
[1:31:30] I think sidewalks are great.
[1:31:31] I guess my question would be the time frame.
[1:31:33] Because this is just a conceptual--
[1:31:52] where do we go from here?
[1:31:55] >> First thing we do is we need to get direction --
[1:32:06] (Indiscernible)--
[1:32:33] >> And at plan doesn't affect any trees anywhere on 27th
[1:32:36] terrace? (Indiscernible) --
[1:32:48] >> The goal with the design is we're trying to eliminate any
[1:32:51] impacts to the trees.
[1:32:51] I can't definitively say that without having a survey,
[1:32:51] but that is the goal.
[1:32:52] We hug the curb where it's not feasible.
[1:33:01] We try and maintain that five foot width,
[1:33:03] which would be ideal to make that a continuous route
[1:33:03] around that entire corridor.
[1:33:03] That's the nuts and bolts of what
[1:33:03] we get into as we start getting that excerpt information,
[1:33:03] getting a detailed design.
[1:33:03] No elimination of trees is the goal of this project.
[1:33:04] Is to maintain existing canopies.
[1:33:06] Maintain existing landscape where feasible.
[1:33:31] >> Anything else?
[1:33:32] >> Is that street slope towards the yacht club?
[1:33:44] >> There's some areas where it does slope down I can't remember
[1:33:46] off the top of my head.
[1:33:47] One of those streets you do have two catch basins
[1:33:50] that collect on the north and south side of that intersecting
[1:33:52] street.
[1:33:52] I want to say around 40th.
[1:33:52] Everything's going to be sloping more towards that
[1:33:52] as your whole point.
[1:33:52] And from there it heads south towards 39th.
[1:33:52] Some stuff flows from the yacht club down to 40th.
[1:33:55] It pitch is midway by adjoining street
[1:33:56] and collects in catch basin, and it's typically back to 39.
[1:34:01] We get into that with the survey to see actual patterns.
[1:34:24] >> And there's outfall into the canal--
[1:34:27] >> On the two on 40th, they do collect.
[1:34:29] I believe they go into infrastructure
[1:34:29] on the west side of the road, then it does go under the canal.
[1:34:29] There's another catch basin on the west side
[1:34:29] of the intersection of 27th and 39th.
[1:34:29] You'd have an existing catch basin there as well.
[1:34:31] I'm not sure exactly where that one falls.
[1:34:50] >> What I'm thinking is if less impact on everybody and make --
[1:34:53] you curb the street on that side,
[1:34:57] and now the water would end up in the catch basin if you have
[1:35:05] to make the outfall pipe bigger (Indiscernible)--
[1:35:21] and then it can maintain its own width at that point all the way
[1:35:24] through.
[1:35:25] Would that be something that might
[1:35:29] be advantageous to look at?
[1:35:35] >> Yes, and no.
[1:35:36] Can I say that not to be flipped in that it creates
[1:35:38] one continuous sidewalk.
[1:35:38] One continuous condition down the street.
[1:35:38] Knowing that everywhere we're trying
[1:35:38] to peel the sidewalk off the road or areas
[1:35:38] where there's runway to do it.
[1:35:38] If you hug everything against the edge of the road
[1:35:38] and create that curb condition, I
[1:35:40] need a place to put that storm water.
[1:35:59] It's really analyzing from a drainage standpoint.
[1:36:01] I can't impact level of service for the residents.
[1:36:01] Now we have to analyze and see what
[1:36:01] does that curb condition do, and purposely ran
[1:36:01] on the side of the road and do I need new drainage
[1:36:01] infrastructure?
[1:36:01] And then that introduces the capital cost
[1:36:03] of them putting in the drainage infrastructure.
[1:36:05] And then permitting and making sure that that
[1:36:07] can tie into the existing outfall.
[1:36:10] Anything is feasible. (Indiscernible)--
[1:36:32] >> I guess the original question was,
[1:36:33] because it all flowed towards the yacht club?
[1:36:33] It doesn't end up there.
[1:36:34] >> It doesn't go from 39 to the Yacht Club pier its ups
[1:36:42] and Downs.
[1:36:43] That's what I'm saying on 40th you do have some existing
[1:36:43] drainage infrastructure that collects on that water that goes
[1:36:45] to the low point.
[1:36:47] And then it looks like it's getting collected at 39th under
[1:36:58] 39th Street.
[1:37:04] >> I am a dog mom.
[1:37:08] I walk my dog every night after work.
[1:37:10] I see tons of my neighbors walking their dogs.
[1:37:10] The majority of them use the sidewalk.
[1:37:10] Anytime I see a street light that doesn't have a sidewalk,
[1:37:10] it doesn't give dog walkers, joggers the opportunity
[1:37:13] to get out of the line of traffic.
[1:37:15] And if we're talking about increased traffic to an area,
[1:37:37] I think we need to do what's best for the residents
[1:37:39] and put the sidewalks in.
[1:37:54] >> Sidewalks are always safer.
[1:37:55] That's what it comes down to.
[1:37:55] That's why we have a right of way.
[1:37:56] >> My question is financial.
[1:38:02] It sounds like this will proceed if they push forward
[1:38:04] on its own track, independent of the development of the yacht
[1:38:15] Club.
[1:38:15] Are we fronting the money?
[1:38:16] >> The development agreement that we--
[1:38:24] >> So we can move (Indiscernible)--
[1:38:29] Again, I think this is an amenity.
[1:38:32] The yacht club has agreed to contribute to it.
[1:38:34] I don't see why we wouldn't take this amenity that will help
[1:38:34] many residents in the area.
[1:38:35] My thought is to move forward.
[1:38:50] Do we have consensus there?
[1:38:56] >> I agree.
[1:38:59] >> All aboard?
[1:39:01] >> If you're comfortable with the consensus rather than a full
[1:39:01] motion, then we'll take the consensus and move
[1:39:03] on to the next step.
[1:39:11] >> (Indiscernible)--
[1:39:16] >> I will say the one resident that was not in favor of it
[1:39:19] raised good points about--
[1:39:24] I do it respectfully a little bit differently.
[1:39:26] Definitely doesn't solve the traffic problem.
[1:39:28] It is another tool that will alleviate problems.
[1:39:38] Moving people from the streets if you
[1:39:40] have concerns about speeding and new cars--
[1:39:46] it will hopefully alleviate those issues.
[1:39:47] Which I think is what we had discussed when we contemplated.
[1:39:47] In addition to the other traffic calming features.
[1:39:47] Moving on.
[1:39:47] New business.
[1:39:47] Motion to approve the expenditure
[1:39:49] of funds for municipal tree trimming services.
[1:39:54] Operational Manager.
[1:40:20] >> Good evening.
[1:40:21] That's the motion to approve the expenditure of funds
[1:40:21] for municipal tree trimming service.
[1:40:21] On the June 23rd, 2020 six, city Commission meeting city
[1:40:21] anonymously approved resolution number 26-27-32 authorizing
[1:40:25] agreements-- there's currently $109,000 remaining in the fiscal
[1:40:45] year 2025 and 2026 general fund maintenance contracts to count.
[1:40:52] We recommend the city's commission authorize
[1:40:54] the expenditure of funds in the amount of approximately up
[1:40:54] to $100,000 for the general fund for this fiscal year of tree
[1:40:54] trimming.
[1:40:54] Which I don't know if you've seen around the city recently,
[1:40:57] City Hall, Dixon Hall, police department was done today.
[1:41:09] It's all part of a separate contract.
[1:41:10] This is going to be throughout the city.
[1:41:12] We've already identified 16 spots
[1:41:14] that we want to immediately get to.
[1:41:19] Just don't want to keep coming back every time
[1:41:21] and ask for money and do POS.
[1:41:23] We can just do a continuous up to that amount.
[1:41:32] >> Can we get a motion?
[1:41:39] >> I'm sorry, I was looking at the resolution.
[1:41:44] >> We're going to do $100,000 worth of tree trimming?
[1:41:51] >> I'm planning on having crews here starting on Friday.
[1:41:54] I've got estimates for about 16 areas.
[1:41:56] About $72,000.
[1:41:56] And then I want to get the side streets.
[1:41:56] We're doing maintenance right now
[1:41:56] from Federal Highway on Lighthouse Point
[1:41:57] Drive to the City Limited.
[1:41:59] 39th Street of Sample Road.
[1:42:08] Which we probably haven't done federal highway in 5 or 6 years.
[1:42:11] Have you read the Federal Highway,
[1:42:11] you can see what needs to be done.
[1:42:11] That's all part of the third phase of this third project
[1:42:11] we want to start.
[1:42:11] And with the remainder money, before the 1st of October,
[1:42:25] I want to get a lot of the side streets where we can keep that
[1:42:27] 15 foot clearance and eight foot clearance over the sidewalks.
[1:42:30] Hopefully before October 1st, we'll spend $100,000.
[1:42:43] >> And then you'll come and ask for more?
[1:42:45] >> Trees continue to grow.
[1:42:48] >> This is for any tree that's hanging over into city property?
[1:42:51] >> All of our trees right now over point drive,
[1:42:54] state law requires 13 to 14 foot clearance.
[1:42:55] We're going to go to 15 just so we don't have to continuously
[1:42:55] cut month after month.
[1:42:56] >> Just on Lighthouse Point Drive?
[1:43:08] >> No, our main point is going to be Lighthouse Point Drive.
[1:43:12] We haven't done that in probably 6 or 7 years.
[1:43:12] When somebody calls and complaints,
[1:43:12] that's when we go out and cut that area to the height.
[1:43:12] We want to try to alleviate that now.
[1:43:12] Got a maintenance schedule now that we
[1:43:12] have a tree trimming company, which we've never
[1:43:12] had in the city before.
[1:43:13] We've never had a contracted tree company.
[1:43:18] We want to start a maintenance program with them
[1:43:20] to where they can come through and identify it, make
[1:43:22] sure we're in agreement with it and approve it to get it cut.
[1:43:42] We will get to side streets.
[1:43:43] Our main purpose and the main thing right
[1:43:45] now is things that haven't been done in 6 or 7 years.
[1:43:47] And to get to that state level, state law where it needs to be.
[1:44:01] >> a canopy is nice and provides shade.
[1:44:04] I'm thinking of 49.
[1:44:05] Can you trim those in a way that keeps the dome?
[1:44:07] >> I want to say this in a nice way.
[1:44:26] [Laughter] We are going to try and shape those trees that FP&L
[1:44:34] has destroyed over the years to where we can keep
[1:44:36] the canopy of that area and the esthetics of how you drive
[1:44:36] through it, looking like it's a canopy type area driving
[1:44:38] through, but reshaped the trees at the same time for the damage
[1:44:47] they have done to them.
[1:44:48] And we are going to continue to try to do that.
[1:44:50] >> I'm not a tree cutter.
[1:44:54] And as I've said many times up here,
[1:44:55] I'm not good at visualizing these types of things.
[1:44:55] I could visualize them, can I keep going back to 49th Street
[1:44:55] where you almost maintain the 15ft.
[1:44:55] I know we're not talking about 49th Street yet,
[1:44:56] but you've got to cut a hole in the canopy to get the clearance.
[1:44:59] Is that at least feasible that we might have to do that?
[1:45:01] >> We're going to do the best we can to keep the canopy
[1:45:21] of the trees at the 15 foot.
[1:45:29] As long --
[1:45:34] >> As long as it's contemplated.
[1:45:36] You know everybody's going to go crazy once they
[1:45:42] see cutting these trees.
[1:45:47] >> It's been long overdue.
[1:45:48] >> The idea is we're trying to get up before our major
[1:45:52] hurricane season portion, cleaning out of it.
[1:45:57] And we got a real storm here with the window,
[1:46:06] less opportunity for them to--
[1:46:09] >> There some trees on Lighthouse Point Drive now that
[1:46:11] the county has brought to our attention that need to be
[1:46:11] removed.
[1:46:14] They are dead.
[1:46:20] They're hollow on the inside from diseases
[1:46:22] and everything else over the years.
[1:46:23] They're going to allow us to cut those down.
[1:46:29] >> They're mostly the Laurel Oaks that have a 50 year shelf
[1:46:32] life.
[1:46:32] Those Laurel oaks have less of a lifespan than a regular oak
[1:46:32] tree.
[1:46:32] It sounds crazy, but it may look very similar
[1:46:32] to you can tell there's a difference in them.
[1:46:32] Those are the ones that are having those rotting issues.
[1:46:34] And you can see that the house right between 33rd,
[1:46:58] I call it the Blue tree because it has a little flower on it.
[1:47:07] >> And you just come out and test them?
[1:47:14] >> (Indiscernible)-- I promise you Jim will do what he can do
[1:47:17] within his power because the county will be watching.
[1:47:19] >> So the ones that come down, that's going to get done first
[1:47:32] before we spend the money on that first?
[1:47:33] >> They're going to be part of the Lighthouse Point drive part,
[1:47:45] which those are the trees already causing sidewalk
[1:47:48] problems, roadway issues.
[1:47:52] It's their time to go.
[1:47:58] Any questions?
[1:48:00] >> So the trees that they're planting in the swells over
[1:48:02] the sidewalks, that's the city's responsibility?
[1:48:10] >> Again, I'll try to say it in a nice way.
[1:48:18] A lot of trees years ago had to be planted.
[1:48:24] The city got in trouble a long time ago
[1:48:25] for cutting too many trees down.
[1:48:25] They were told they had to put trees back in.
[1:48:26] That's where all these trees came from.
[1:48:26] I think there were thousands of trees that had to be replanted.
[1:48:26] They were put in the right of way.
[1:48:26] Wherever we had room to do that.
[1:48:26] And those that are the ones that are going
[1:48:26] to come back to harm us now.
[1:48:28] The tree right away, trees in right of ways,
[1:48:49] some are allowed and some aren't.
[1:48:51] The ones that we are allowing now,
[1:48:53] it's put into the homeowner.
[1:48:53] That is their true.
[1:48:53] Anything happens in their right of way,
[1:48:53] they're responsible for any city projects
[1:48:55] that might be in that right of way that's caused by that tree.
[1:48:58] They are going to be retired.
[1:49:11] Required to fix those issues.
[1:49:12] There are agreements and letters assigned to that.
[1:49:15] >> Can I get a motion?
[1:49:23] >> I'll make a motion to approve the expenditures of up
[1:49:26] to $200,000 from the General Fund for municipal tree trimming
[1:49:31] services.
[1:49:35] >> Second.
[1:49:37] >> All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
[1:49:44] Motion passes 4-0.
[1:49:47] >> You said we're going to have a tree trimming service
[1:49:49] tomorrow?
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[1:50:20] Resolution approving the First Amendment (Facilities Amendment)
[1:50:23] to the Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Disposal
[1:50:23] and Recyclable Materials Processing
[1:50:24] Authority of Broward County.
[1:50:27] >> (Indiscernible)-- Approval of the facilities amendment
[1:50:51] represents the final step.
[1:50:57] Confirming the city's participation in the Broward's
[1:51:12] Holloway's authority for 40 year term
[1:51:14] extended through August 2063.
[1:51:18] Based on the ILA effective date of August 16th, 2020.
[1:51:35] (Indiscernible)-- there's a companion second amendment
[1:51:38] on this agenda that provides participating municipalities.
[1:51:41] Two opportunities to withdraw from (Indiscernible)--
[1:51:46] the first opportunity following the recommendation of the--
[1:51:55] November of 2027.
[1:51:56] The second opportunity is available after 25 years
[1:51:58] in August 2048.
[1:52:09] It should be noted that for 2027, opt out provisions
[1:52:11] are no longer contingent upon the maximum service
[1:52:13] charges proposed by the disposal processing facilities--
[1:52:21] before deciding whether to remain in the (Indiscernible)--
[1:52:31] facilities must be approved and returned to-- no later than this
[1:52:34] Friday August 14th.
[1:52:35] The estimated fiscal impact that the city of Lighthouse Point
[1:52:37] of participating in the solid waste--
[1:52:42] it's approximately 12,561.20 dollars For fiscal year 2027.
[1:53:07] (Indiscernible)-- intended to provide long term cost
[1:53:09] predictability while supporting regional solid waste disposal
[1:53:17] recycling.
[1:53:19] Approval of the Second Amendment does not
[1:53:21] create any additional direct fiscal impact
[1:53:21] and provides the city with future withdrawal options.
[1:53:21] Following the authority's initial procurement process,
[1:53:21] in 2027 and again in 2048.
[1:53:21] Requesting that the City Commission consider approving
[1:53:23] the resolution contingent on all of the participating cities,
[1:53:48] approving the revised Second Amendment Pier adopting the --
[1:53:56] (Indiscernible).
[1:53:58] I want to bring one more issue to your attention
[1:53:58] before I turn this over to you.
[1:53:58] I had a recent meeting at the Spring City Commission
[1:54:00] solid waste Authority--
[1:54:12] Representatives were asked about possible extensions for the RFP
[1:54:14] process that could potentially affect the opt out date
[1:54:14] in the Second Amendment.
[1:54:14] The solid Waste Authority reiterated that Friday August
[1:54:17] 15th deadline for approval of the Facilities Agreement--
[1:54:29] and the Council explained that the Second Amendment was
[1:54:34] intended to provide flexibility to opt out.
[1:54:35] Equity RFP to recommended -- the way the amendment is currently
[1:54:49] drafted, the executive Committee has to recommend an award
[1:54:52] by November 15th of 2027.
[1:54:52] The provision of concern is that if there is a need
[1:54:54] to extend the process, the governing Board
[1:55:03] can approve extensions by six month increments.
[1:55:05] Solid Waste Authority counsel advised
[1:55:05] that there is likely to be a third Amendment
[1:55:07] to include changes related to governance,
[1:55:14] but will also include a finite extension period.
[1:55:16] Should that be the appetite of the executive and the governing
[1:55:18] board.
[1:55:19] After the discussion, the city of Coral Springs
[1:55:28] in the City Commission did approve the amendments.
[1:55:34] So I know we have some representatives here
[1:55:36] that can speak about this issue in the potential for a Third
[1:55:38] Amendment and the timing of any possible extensions
[1:55:47] (Indiscernible)--
[1:55:48] and then we turn it over to you to discuss and make
[1:55:50] a determination.
[1:55:59] >> Do you want to hear from the representatives first?
[1:56:01] Is someone going to make a motion to?
[1:56:03] >> I'll make a motion to read.
[1:56:10] >> Second.
[1:56:11] >> (Indiscernible)-- this resolution does provide that
[1:56:20] the approval of this specific amendment is contingent
[1:56:22] on the Second Amendment also being approved.
[1:56:22] That has to be approved unanimously by all cities.
[1:56:22] So that is a condition that that segment be approved and put
[1:56:22] into effect.
[1:56:22] >> I believe all cities have approved the Second amendment.
[1:56:47] >> There may be one more. (Indiscernible)--
[1:57:03] >> Any questions?
[1:57:08] >> I have a comment.
[1:57:09] When they gave presentation, a lot of this
[1:57:17] depends on recycling.
[1:57:18] I know that I've continually try to get people to recycle.
[1:57:21] I believe that if we agree this and to go there, we as a city
[1:57:23] need to really get people involved in a recycling.
[1:57:36] On the way out today, my section of the city was being picked up,
[1:57:43] and probably 10 to 12 or maybe 15% of the houses
[1:57:46] didn't have recycling cans out.
[1:57:47] I think that we need to as a city
[1:57:52] have code enforcement while they are
[1:57:53] in and around the city on the trash days
[1:57:53] that recycling is being picked up.
[1:57:55] Make note of the houses that don't have recycling.
[1:58:11] And then through some kind of nice , why don't you do this,
[1:58:24] letter communication with those residents.
[1:58:26] Maybe they don't have cans.
[1:58:26] Maybe they don't pay attention.
[1:58:26] Maybe they don't care.
[1:58:26] But maybe we try to make some cares
[1:58:26] so we can get more recycling numbers up
[1:58:26] to where they need to be.
[1:58:26] I think that's very important.
[1:58:26] I think the presentation that was given was a lot about that,
[1:58:28] having to have recycling.
[1:58:33] That is my spiel.
[1:58:50] Voting for it was fine.
[1:58:51] I think that we need to as a city
[1:58:51] try to get people to recycle more than they do.
[1:58:51] I know my neighbor across the street said, I don't do that.
[1:58:51] Why don't you do that?
[1:58:51] It's the right thing to do.
[1:58:52] He puts cardboard.
[1:59:16] >> I said I'm sure a new tax will make him recycle even more.
[1:59:19] >> Maybe.
[1:59:22] He probably doesn't care.
[1:59:27] I go by this one house constantly
[1:59:28] and they have boxes out, but they don't have a recycling can.
[1:59:28] Maybe they just don't have one, but they
[1:59:28] constantly put cardboard boxes out and put them in the can.
[1:59:28] That's a little thing that we should really
[1:59:30] start to try to do.
[1:59:31] And to not put more work on code enforcement, but it's around
[1:59:48] and they see this and make note of that.
[1:59:49] And I'm sure we have somebody on staff that
[1:59:51] can make a nice letter and say, could you help us out here?
[2:00:01] We're trying to do the right thing.
[2:00:03] That's what I've got.
[2:00:04] >> I guess I should have a question.
[2:00:15] The first year, the fiscal amounts estimated at 12561.
[2:00:24] >> Correct.
[2:00:25] >> The opt out is in 27 before the next amount we know is going
[2:00:28] to be-- does that make sense?
[2:00:31] >> It's going to be around the same time that it's coming out.
[2:00:36] >> So we won't be able to opt out for 25 years after that?
[2:00:38] >> Correct.
[2:00:38] >> I guess my concern would be that we really don't know
[2:00:38] the true financial impact after the first year.
[2:00:40] >> I'm the executive director for Broward--
[2:00:52] I want to apologize for the last time I came here.
[2:00:54] I was always on board with the Solid Waste Authority.
[2:00:54] I didn't even know Commissioner Stafford.
[2:00:54] I just want to let you know that the Second
[2:00:55] Amendment, and Commissioner Stafford
[2:00:55] has been very instrumental on the governing board for us.
[2:00:55] The Second Amendment came about from the conversation
[2:00:55] that happened here at Lighthouse Point.
[2:00:56] A small as you said it is, it was instrumental in bringing
[2:00:59] about the Second Amendment because you
[2:01:01] guys were the ones who talked about having
[2:01:02] a way to get out of this.
[2:01:04] It was drafted up to come up with a way to get out.
[2:01:27] Anyway, You're talking about the dollar amount and the surcharge
[2:01:31] and how much that's going to cost.
[2:01:42] When you join the authority, You signed the First Amendment
[2:01:45] and the Second Amendment.
[2:01:46] You start enjoying the rates that you are receiving.
[2:01:46] What you receive right now, that's
[2:01:46] part of the global agreement.
[2:01:47] You'll continue to be able to-- and if they're
[2:01:58] different than that, you can say we
[2:02:00] don't want to be part of this.
[2:02:01] Southwest ranches are part of the global agreement. $87 a ton.
[2:02:01] If you take that, you're paying $87 a ton.
[2:02:03] If you take that difference, and their bulk weight--
[2:02:19] if you were paying Southwest ranch--
[2:02:30] you would be paying about $220,000 a year more.
[2:02:32] Based on their rates.
[2:02:32] I'm not saying that's a scare you or anything.
[2:02:32] That's the reality of it.
[2:02:33] Say it could cost you 15,000 or so more a year,
[2:02:50] that's versus $200,000 if you're paying what southwest ranches
[2:02:52] paying right now.
[2:02:53] Miami Dade is average $84 a ton for MSW.
[2:02:55] 49, that's what the global agreement is.
[2:03:07] That's the maximum service charges.
[2:03:08] We're hoping to get and more likely to get for the MSW.
[2:03:08] That cost will be offset by the savings
[2:03:08] that you're going to get by a large factor.
[2:03:08] That in itself, you look at how much it's going to cost you,
[2:03:08] you'll be able to get that back.
[2:03:09] And you will see that rate come back.
[2:03:10] If that rate is $87 when it comes back to you,
[2:03:20] this is-- that's what the opt out will
[2:03:38] be able to allow you to do.
[2:03:43] >> Anything else?
[2:03:44] I just had a lot of reservations about this.
[2:03:46] The free peak is tempting for me.
[2:03:46] I call it the free peak at the rates.
[2:03:46] I spent a lot of time on the master plan after we met.
[2:03:50] I'm articulating this so you can carry it to the group
[2:03:53] or whatever.
[2:03:54] In the spirit of actually trying to make this work.
[2:04:00] I'm not in favor of it.
[2:04:23] That master plan, if I read it right
[2:04:25] then I know you didn't draft it.
[2:04:26] If I could boil it down, it said of these three options, here
[2:04:32] is the best option to try and get to 75%
[2:04:34] recycling, which is the goal.
[2:04:35] What it doesn't say-- but it basically says is here's
[2:04:49] the most likely way to achieve an objective,
[2:04:51] but nowhere I've seen in all of the years
[2:04:54] that these bodies have spent doing
[2:04:55] it is any analysis as to whether that objective is
[2:04:55] achievable at all.
[2:04:55] Just 75% is to kind of unleash this.
[2:04:57] I know you're going to tell me it's not a big organization.
[2:05:01] It's something as monumental as this, with basically signing
[2:05:11] on to something where we would potentially be letting
[2:05:13] other cities have a say in obligating
[2:05:13] the city of Lighthouse Point on the future
[2:05:13] with how we deal with our trash, other expensive infrastructure
[2:05:16] that might be needed to achieve the 75%.
[2:05:39] Without some experts telling me that the objective,
[2:05:41] as noble as it may be, and I do not agree with the objective,
[2:05:44] is feasible or likely to happen.
[2:05:44] That's a big number.
[2:05:45] We've never seen recycling numbers like that.
[2:05:51] I just can't swallow that pill.
[2:05:56] >> They are close to 90%.
[2:05:59] On Beach County is another one.
[2:06:00] Extremely high.
[2:06:00] Recycling that you're seeing it's
[2:06:00] not the recycling that you're putting out
[2:06:00] in front of your house.
[2:06:01] The big ticket on that recycling is C and D. Construction
[2:06:21] demolition debris.
[2:06:22] What you put in front of your house, that's great.
[2:06:24] >> Construction and demolition debris,
[2:06:28] that's what moves the needle.
[2:06:29] What you put in front of your house is extremely important.
[2:06:29] Don't get me wrong.
[2:06:29] I try to do the best I can.
[2:06:31] I've always done that.
[2:06:38] I was a public works director for many years
[2:06:44] in Broward County.
[2:06:45] I always try to do the.
[2:06:46] >> There's so many assumptions in that master plan to achieve
[2:06:51] that 75%.
[2:06:52] I know you didn't do it.
[2:06:52] There's so many things out of anybody's control..
[2:06:52] Is there going to be a market for this?
[2:06:55] My understanding of that master plan
[2:07:04] is anything that doesn't make it a landfill is recycling.
[2:07:06] We are running out of space.
[2:07:07] But people are talking about waste energy.
[2:07:07] Have you told them waste energy we're going to burn trash,
[2:07:07] they're going to freak out.
[2:07:07] Some people think that's not environmental at all.
[2:07:07] I happen to actually not necessarily disagree with them.
[2:07:08] But that's not necessarily recycling.
[2:07:10] With all due respect, all the time and effort
[2:07:13] that went into the master plan, doesn't have enough meat
[2:07:15] to convince me to obligate.
[2:07:16] And I'm probably in the minority here.
[2:07:44] It was tempting with the peak.
[2:07:47] I need a little more meat on the bone to get their.
[2:07:49] And I really tried to simplify these issues.
[2:07:50] They are very complicated issues.
[2:07:51] Do I have it right--
[2:07:53] I just don't see a big difference between this SWA
[2:08:06] and what we have now with the ILA
[2:08:07] other than these recycling centers.
[2:08:10] That's a lot of money to build recycling centers.
[2:08:14] Again, this is simpleton Jason logic.
[2:08:17] We have enough problems educating people
[2:08:19] to get people to recycle when this stuff's right in front
[2:08:19] of their house.
[2:08:19] I just don't know.
[2:08:25] I take your point about C and D and residential
[2:08:28] and not really moving the needle.
[2:08:29] >> Not as big as the commercial.
[2:08:33] I don't see why all of this is needed
[2:08:34] on the big push was bargaining power
[2:08:45] to take on the big players in this space
[2:08:48] when we had that bargaining power, when we had the ILA.
[2:08:55] You're happy to respond.
[2:08:56] >> A global agreement's going away.
[2:08:58] It expires in 2028.
[2:08:59] Those prices are set by the global agreement.
[2:08:59] Those are the prices we're shooting to.
[2:09:01] >> I understand, but the global agreement wasn't as draconian.
[2:09:08] And it wasn't a draconian as to what
[2:09:09] we're being asked to sign now.
[2:09:09] And I really articulate that because in talking about this
[2:09:09] over the years, I wasn't at the meetings,
[2:09:09] I was never on the board, which I
[2:09:09] couldn't have been on the time.
[2:09:10] I don't feel like there was enough devil's advocate
[2:09:17] on there.
[2:09:27] Maybe I'm wrong.
[2:09:36] I wasn't at the meetings.
[2:09:37] Because the objective is noble.
[2:09:37] We're going to spend so much time and effort on this.
[2:09:39] I just don't know if we know what that goal--
[2:09:44] if that goal is feasible.
[2:09:56] Those are my concerns.
[2:09:57] >> That's your mayor brought up a fishing analogy related
[2:10:00] to fishing the last time, and I thought about that.
[2:10:02] I've had a boat at the Lighthouse Point Marina
[2:10:02] for over ten years.
[2:10:02] I fish a lot and dive a lot.
[2:10:04] I'm a fisherman and a diver, lobsterman, fisherman
[2:10:17] and all that kind of stuff.
[2:10:18] I thought about what you're saying,
[2:10:23] and it's kind of like if you go to Tyler who's the bait guide
[2:10:25] here and everybody goes to Tyler,
[2:10:27] we want to get the best prices we can get for goggle .
[2:10:33] We want to join together and get the best prices for them.
[2:10:37] We're going to go to the lighthouse Point Marina
[2:10:39] and down to the sand.
[2:10:39] We're going to get the best prices we can on gas.
[2:10:39] We're going to get these prices and we're
[2:10:39] going to guarantee these prices, we're
[2:10:39] going to guarantee this there's so many people that
[2:10:39] are going to buy into that.
[2:10:40] And we're going to have X amount of-- we're
[2:10:51] going to buy this much bait from you and this much gas.
[2:11:00] We can get the best prices at this point in time.
[2:11:02] And that's the pricing side of it
[2:11:02] and that's what we're going to be doing
[2:11:02] at disposal and processing.
[2:11:02] But we're also going to say, we're going to.
[2:11:02] We're going to get some seminars,
[2:11:02] we're going to be constantly educating.
[2:11:02] We're going to pay for education for those guys
[2:11:03] and top fishing guys around right now.
[2:11:05] We're only catching about 39% of our recycling.
[2:11:08] 39% of the folks that go out to bring fish back in, we're
[2:11:11] trying to get it to 75%.
[2:11:13] We've heard that those guys come back with 75%.
[2:11:16] We're going to try to get it to where everybody's
[2:11:18] getting 75% by educating, by training people with the best
[2:11:22] people out here to teach them how to fish properly,
[2:11:35] and all the tips and tricks that they can give you.
[2:11:49] These guys always have some tips and tricks.
[2:11:50] The goal is to get the recycling rate up by educating.
[2:11:50] That's really it in a nutshell.
[2:11:50] Educating and get that recycling.
[2:11:52] And by joining in forces from everybody,
[2:12:03] getting a mass amount of people together to go to these disposal
[2:12:07] and processing facilities to get the best rates.
[2:12:09] That's really it.
[2:12:14] >> I thought about that.
[2:12:15] I'm not an economist.
[2:12:16] I have some background from my college days--
[2:12:24] >> You're not a tree trimmer.
[2:12:28] [Laughter]
[2:12:29] >> I have a real debate about it,
[2:12:30] I get the point there's not many players on the supply side,
[2:12:33] all the big garbage companies.
[2:12:38] What a market works well-- for a market to work well and it's--
[2:12:45] I can make the argument by together.
[2:12:47] What are we going to do if of these people come together,
[2:12:54] put this out to bid, and all of these big players
[2:12:57] say give these None of them are acceptable.
[2:12:57] We're gonna to go with one of them.
[2:12:57] Because everybody's together.
[2:12:57] There's no other people.
[2:12:58] >> You don't have to because in 2027--
[2:13:16] >> The point is for market to work,
[2:13:17] there needs to be a of buyers and Sellers.
[2:13:17] That's the consumers consolidating,
[2:13:17] I get the bargaining power, what you're some competition
[2:13:17] on the bar side.
[2:13:17] Especially for city like lighthouse point,
[2:13:17] it's a small fish.
[2:13:17] I get the argument and I hope you're right.
[2:13:18] I hope the rates come back.
[2:13:20] But we won't know.
[2:13:21] Those are my thoughts on it.
[2:13:23] I will say more to my fellow commissioners.
[2:13:26] It sounds like you're inclined to take the free peak.
[2:13:31] I do feel pretty strongly-- and I
[2:13:55] want to be candid my opinion to the SWA on this.
[2:13:59] We to have a plan B if we decide opt out.
[2:14:00] We need to almost compete with and know
[2:14:00] what the world's going to look if we decide not to go forward.
[2:14:03] >> It's not me you're competing with.
[2:14:17] You're with other cities.
[2:14:18] >> Competition is good.
[2:14:22] That's why you're doing >> You're
[2:14:26] competing with every other city in Broward County,
[2:14:29] including Fort Lauderdale.
[2:14:30] I understand, but we decided not too ago
[2:14:30] to spend money in recycle when other just
[2:14:30] said no, it's too expensive.
[2:14:30] My point I need to know how much more expensive
[2:14:30] might be for Lighthouse Point to go with a loan
[2:14:32] if we decide to opt out.
[2:14:42] I know waste management has told us informally
[2:14:58] it's going be more.
[2:14:58] I need to know how much more, because if it's 15 a, maybe
[2:15:04] it's worth it for Lighthouse Point to separate it's.
[2:15:06] Maybe it's worth it for Point to obligate itself
[2:15:06] to some big capital that might be needed to achieve this goal.
[2:15:08] guess I want to be-- that I'm going to be advocating
[2:15:18] my fellow commissioners agree with me or not,
[2:15:20] we do as a city what we need do to see
[2:15:20] what the world looks like we opt out and decide to go.
[2:15:23] I don't think we would be doing jobs
[2:15:33] as elected representatives of the Lighthouse point seeing what
[2:15:38] those actions--
[2:15:41] I'll even assume they could be But the residents
[2:15:43] of Lighthouse Point are used a little bit of a higher levels
[2:15:43] of with respect to their trash.
[2:15:43] And we might willing to pay for it.
[2:15:44] >> And you still keep that level of service.
[2:15:50] I used you as example when I talked about the level of I
[2:15:56] said there's certain cities that have bulk yard waste once
[2:15:58] a week.
[2:16:02] Twice a week.
[2:16:07] Can I bring that up.
[2:16:08] There's certain cities that have twice a week
[2:16:08] pier certain cities have it once a month.
[2:16:08] You can choose your own level of service.
[2:16:10] Nobody's going to tell you that you can't have it twice a week
[2:16:15] or you can only have it twice a month.
[2:16:21] >> Maybe the stuff went away, I remember the last time we
[2:16:24] talked-- co-mingling.
[2:16:28] There's a value in that to our residents.
[2:16:30] Is it worth $25 more a ton?
[2:16:30] I don't know.
[2:16:30] I don't even know what I'm comparing it to.
[2:16:32] I feel pretty strongly, commissioners,
[2:16:40] that if you do move forward, we need to put out the bids,
[2:16:43] figure out what the alternative is.
[2:16:45] I know that's a lot of work for administration and the mayor,
[2:16:53] but I feel pretty strongly about that.
[2:16:54] >> We talked about it last time.
[2:16:57] The fact is that we did get an unsolicited bid yesterday.
[2:16:59] I can tell you that there's not a lot of details into it,
[2:17:07] but the idea is there are other people out there that
[2:17:12] are looking to service our trash here in the city of Lighthouse
[2:17:12] Point.
[2:17:12] I think as we look, to your point globally, Broward County,
[2:17:19] it's important that there is some competition.
[2:17:21] Having an opportunity to have a sneak peak,
[2:17:21] it's kind of what we've all agreed,
[2:17:21] but we need to have options because the city of lighthouse
[2:17:23] point, I think all the residents,
[2:17:39] and you saw here tonight the majority have cleared out,
[2:17:41] they expect the level of service.
[2:17:41] Whether it's library, the reading program,
[2:17:41] whether it's public works, tree trimming, recreation, baseball
[2:17:41] or softball.
[2:17:41] I think it's important.
[2:17:41] And the fact that an unsolicited bid came in,
[2:17:41] the fact is that there's an appetite for someone
[2:17:41] to service and dispose of our trash here in Lighthouse Point
[2:17:43] outside of what SWA provided.
[2:18:12] Again, I'm not sure that that's what it's-- it's going to be
[2:18:16] worth to residents to go for $3 a month,
[2:18:17] all of a sudden they can lock in at 10 or 15 year contract.
[2:18:24] I think we have to look at it.
[2:18:27] And I will tell you very truthfully,
[2:18:29] we're signing up for this without having
[2:18:31] an option for a plan B or plan C,
[2:18:37] technically, I think we would not
[2:18:39] be doing our due diligence to the residents of Lighthouse
[2:18:39] Point.
[2:18:39] You can't have option A if you're not signed up.
[2:18:48] >> Listen, option A was a good move.
[2:18:53] But the opt out was--
[2:18:57] I respect that.
[2:18:57] And you guys got your votes you need.
[2:18:59] >> It came from you.
[2:19:05] >> I respect that.
[2:19:06] A lot of this is very policy driven in my mind.
[2:19:06] It's almost a policy experiment of whether we're going
[2:19:06] to be able to achieve this.
[2:19:06] I said this last time, and I will say it again.
[2:19:08] Tallahassee ever hears me-- if we join and stay on board,
[2:19:33] we are giving up a modicum of control
[2:19:35] of how we handle one of the major aspects of living
[2:19:35] in Lighthouse Point and being here
[2:19:35] in the city, which is handling a portion of your trash.
[2:19:35] And in a world where home is being almost virtually erased,
[2:19:35] I respectfully have a psychological problem
[2:19:35] with yielding control, and that to me is an extension of that.
[2:19:35] Nothing personal.
[2:19:36] I know it's a lot of work and very complicated and difficult
[2:19:39] business.
[2:20:05] I'm glad we could probably have that discussion another day.
[2:20:07] >> We'll have another discussion as we look into this
[2:20:13] opportunity.
[2:20:13] I've spoken with legal to make sure
[2:20:13] that we're following all the procurement process about it
[2:20:13] and who we can talk to.
[2:20:13] The key is that there are other people out there
[2:20:15] that are looking to service the City of Lighthouse Point.
[2:20:30] >> Hopefully there will always be people.
[2:20:34] >> Then we have a real problem.
[2:20:42] >> Thank you very much for coming.
[2:20:45] >> I do have something to say.
[2:20:46] If we're going to go into this thing,
[2:20:48] we need to find out what option B is if it doesn't work by 2027.
[2:20:51] We absolutely have to do that.
[2:20:52] Then we know if we're right if we get into it and stay in it,
[2:20:52] but we know we're wrong if we don't.
[2:20:53] >> Appreciate that.
[2:21:01] So if we're going to have a, we're going to call the vote.
[2:21:12] >> I will add a final comment and a question.
[2:21:17] I'm in favor of this sneak peak.
[2:21:24] I think (Indiscernible)-- I'm curious, what's
[2:21:30] the downside to the sneak peak?
[2:21:32] >> I think the downside to the sneak peak is--
[2:21:39] I know it's not exactly like a government agency,
[2:21:41] but you are creating a taxing authority to achieve something,
[2:21:45] and I keep coming back to the master plan that
[2:21:50] gave no data on supporting what the goal is actually achievable.
[2:21:52] And I just can't wrap my head around how
[2:21:52] this could have gone as far as it did without somebody saying--
[2:21:56] we hired somebody to figure out whether a sidewalk is feasible.
[2:22:13] From what I read on the master plan,
[2:22:18] nobody has said whether 75% is feasible.
[2:22:20] It is assumed.
[2:22:20] >> Didn't he just say Palm Beach is a 90%.
[2:22:24] What's the difference between possible and feasible?
[2:22:26] >> They own their own facility.
[2:22:36] >> We're talking about a percentage of recycling,
[2:22:39] not about how they process it.
[2:22:40] >> I understand.
[2:22:52] >> It's already created.
[2:22:56] >> That's fair.
[2:22:57] >> I don't know if you read all the white papers,
[2:22:59] but there's white papers that really dive into every aspect.
[2:23:06] And it would dive into the feasibility.
[2:23:10] >> Everything was focused on the master plan.
[2:23:12] I did not see it in the master plan.
[2:23:14] I'll send --
[2:23:21] >> I'll send you something on that.
[2:23:22] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 2026-2740,
[2:23:29] approving the First Amendment to the interlocal agreement
[2:23:34] for solid disposable recyclable materials processing authority
[2:23:37] of Broward County.
[2:23:37] >> We have a motion and a second.
[2:23:46] All those in favor signify by saying aye.
[2:23:54] Opposed.
[2:23:56] Motino passes 3-1.
[2:23:59] Resolution approving the revised Second amendment
[2:24:01] to the interlocal agreement for solid waste disposal
[2:24:01] and recyclable materials processing
[2:24:01] authority of Broward County.
[2:24:02] >> (Indiscernible)-- the amendment must now be approved
[2:24:13] by all members of the governing body of the Solid Waste
[2:24:15] Authority.
[2:24:15] Revised amendment includes changing the language.
[2:24:19] It provides an additional laptop opportunity in 2027
[2:24:22] after the RFP responses from the responsible and processing
[2:24:25] facilities have been received in the contract awards
[2:24:25] have been recommended.
[2:24:25] And it now allows participating municipalities
[2:24:25] the ability to withdraw or opt out from the Broward Solid Waste
[2:24:25] Authority for any reason.
[2:24:26] After the award recommendation following the solicitation
[2:24:40] (Indiscernible)-- a second amendment
[2:24:54] must be approved by all participating municipalities.
[2:25:03] Approval of the Second Amendment does not
[2:25:05] create any direct fiscal impact and provides
[2:25:05] the city with future withdrawal options following the authority
[2:25:05] the initial procurement process for 2027 in 2048.
[2:25:05] Request the City Commission consider the resolution
[2:25:07] to adopt the revised Second Amendment to the--
[2:25:31] >> Motion to read?
[2:25:34] >> Resolution of a city commission of city of lighthouse
[2:25:37] Point Florida, second amendment to the interlocal agreement
[2:25:39] for solid waste disposal, recyclable materials--
[2:25:46] >> Second amendment is the greatest thing since sliced
[2:25:49] bread.
[2:25:49] I love the Second Amendment.
[2:25:49] I am very much in favor.
[2:25:50] Because in politics?
[2:25:54] I love the Second Amendment.
[2:25:56] I'm a huge fan of the Second Amendment.
[2:25:56] Why didn't I think of that one?
[2:25:57] The Second --
[2:26:07] >> Second amendment here or the Second Amendment
[2:26:09] on the Constitution?
[2:26:13] >> Both.
[2:26:14] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 26-2741.
[2:26:15] Approving the revised Second Amendment
[2:26:15] to the Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Disposal
[2:26:15] and Recyclable Materials processing to Broward County.
[2:26:15] >> We have a motion.
[2:26:15] We have a second.
[2:26:18] All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
[2:26:37] Motion passes 4-0.
[2:26:40] Good luck.
[2:26:43] Moving on, public comments and requests from the floor.
[2:26:45] Anything else from the peanut gallery tonight?
[2:26:47] No one is raising their hand.
[2:26:47] We will close public comments from the floor.
[2:26:49] Communications.
[2:27:06] >> Great event at the park Friday night.
[2:27:08] The final pop up of the summer.
[2:27:08] The weather helped the whole time.
[2:27:08] I give kudos to the team that organizes it.
[2:27:10] I know that I showed up.
[2:27:22] I spent $30 right off the bat and I went home
[2:27:24] with a nice chocolate chip.
[2:27:40] it was a chocolate chocolate peanut butter cup.
[2:27:49] >> I missed that.
[2:27:53] >> I got nothing else.
[2:27:56] >> Marshall.
[2:27:58] >> I had a question of something I noticed.
[2:27:58] We have a lot of demolition going on in the city.
[2:27:58] My question is if it is not in the code,
[2:28:00] maybe we should entertain putting it in the code,
[2:28:07] but these construction fences should not be along the route.
[2:28:14] They should be backed out of the right of way.
[2:28:16] You can't put a face in the right of way.
[2:28:18] Why would you be able to put--
[2:28:27] I don't know what the answer is to that.
[2:28:29] If it is not in the code, we should have it in the code.
[2:28:36] Whatever the right of way is, it should not
[2:28:38] be in the right of way.
[2:28:39] One of these issues that I think we have-- people come and park
[2:28:50] in the street.
[2:28:50] It just fixes everything up.
[2:28:50] If it is off the street, and if there's only two cars,
[2:28:50] those construction workers could park off the street.
[2:28:52] So I think if it's not in there, we should
[2:28:58] verify that that is the code.
[2:29:14] If we're in agreement, but that's just something
[2:29:18] that I recently discovered.
[2:29:19] I discovered it in one of my wheelchair trips
[2:29:23] around the city.
[2:29:26] >> Just to respond, I think I share a similar sense in that
[2:29:28] a couple of months ago when they were finishing up one
[2:29:30] of the homes.
[2:29:32] They knocked it down and rebuilt it on 49th Street because that
[2:29:37] exact same situation happened.
[2:29:38] And it was along 49th Street, which was a major--
[2:29:40] where the fence comes right to the sidewalk.
[2:29:46] It's not technically the right of way.
[2:29:48] Then you've got all the construction
[2:29:48] workers parking their cars, blocking the right lane.
[2:29:50] >> The sidewalk, normally parked behind the sidewalk.
[2:29:56] But in this particular case that I'm talking about,
[2:29:58] there's no sidewalk on that street.
[2:29:58] The fence is right at the edge of the road.
[2:30:00] And the gate opens into the road.
[2:30:16] >> That shouldn't be the case.
[2:30:21] I will report back to you.
[2:30:24] >> Anything else?
[2:30:25] >> Recycle.
[2:30:25] It's all I can tell you.
[2:30:27] I would like us to think about, Mayor, trying to see some way--
[2:30:36] I think waste management is supposed to help
[2:30:38] us do that kind of stuff.
[2:30:39] Maybe we can lay-- to we give them addresses or something
[2:30:43] somehow, I'm not trying to beat anybody up.
[2:30:45] Just trying to make people-- maybe
[2:30:51] they don't even think about it.
[2:30:53] >> I'll have Jennifer look into it.
[2:30:58] She handles that.
[2:31:02] >> Thank you.
[2:31:03] >> The waste management lines, I want to thank Dwayne for freeing
[2:31:06] up some space in my recycling bins.
[2:31:10] Chief Recaro we're taking care of a tree that got knocked down.
[2:31:19] Sent a bunch of guys to clean it up.
[2:31:24] >> First and foremost, It was nice that our stuff had a nice
[2:31:27] little break.
[2:31:27] I'm sure it was well enjoyed.
[2:31:27] Becky had another amazing and successful summer camp,
[2:31:27] which is awesome.
[2:31:27] And Public Works has already gotten over there
[2:31:27] and cleaning up all the fun the kids
[2:31:29] had over the last six and a half weeks.
[2:31:48] As we're still talking a little trash amongst each other,
[2:31:51] the idea of getting option B and option C will take time.
[2:31:51] Whether it's an unsolicited bid, or us actually putting out
[2:31:51] to bid to see what's out there in the world,
[2:31:54] I think that's the only way that we could go.
[2:32:09] It will take some time.
[2:32:10] So don't look for anything immediately.
[2:32:10] I will go back to the original portion of the night.
[2:32:10] We had Marty here.
[2:32:10] He does a great presentation.
[2:32:10] Whether he's on four cups of coffee or no coffee,
[2:32:10] he talks the same speed.
[2:32:10] The most important aspect that he said out there,
[2:32:10] we continuously go back and forth with the state statutes
[2:32:10] on what we can talk about and advocate for, not advocate
[2:32:13] for, we cannot advocate for anything.
[2:32:21] We can't bring out--
[2:32:45] I'm sure some of you look at the next door
[2:32:47] look at some of these people's posts on Facebook.
[2:32:47] And opinions and it's amazing to me.
[2:32:48] it's amazing to me how we cannot get the facts out there.
[2:33:03] There are still people that don't understand that it's not
[2:33:05] going to affect the school board Texas,
[2:33:05] or the fact that we don't get the full tax bill.
[2:33:05] We only get 21.2%.
[2:33:05] There's no protection for police and fire.
[2:33:07] There's a lot of things out there that are not protected.
[2:33:11] And I can tell you as we continue to go to the budget .
[2:33:24] And I've talked to all of you about this.
[2:33:29] We're continuously looking to figure out where we would come.
[2:33:38] I'll go back to the $100,000 exemption.
[2:33:41] We would probably survive.
[2:33:43] We would then increase our millage rates and Levy
[2:33:45] different debts.
[2:33:45] Would have all of these aspects that
[2:33:45] would cause more problems and more work
[2:33:45] for staff, which is kind of kind of intuitive.
[2:33:46] But we run a tight ship here.
[2:33:46] We continue to have a tight ship.
[2:33:46] And unfortunately the stewards in the wall that we look over
[2:33:46] to our left and the people that have sat in the chair
[2:33:46] to our far right over there have done such an amazing job
[2:33:49] to spend every dollar wisely.
[2:34:22] Unfortunately, that is going to hurt us
[2:34:26] when the sentiment on our next commission meeting,
[2:34:26] we will have the full discussion on what the property tax
[2:34:26] cuts would look like now that you've seen the numbers in front
[2:34:28] of you, and how you would solve some of the problems,
[2:34:32] and what the long term goals and expectations of the residents
[2:34:40] should be if this goes into effect.
[2:34:41] Come with your questions, come with some thoughts,
[2:34:49] but more importantly, I'm prepared
[2:34:53] that services and capital improvement
[2:34:55] projects will suffer.
[2:34:56] It's going to be harder to decide.
[2:35:07] >> Should we potentially-- potentially have the town hall
[2:35:10] meetings sometime in September or October?
[2:35:12] And present the facts.
[2:35:13] >> You're spending city >> I would have to lean on legal
[2:35:27] to see what would it be feasible--
[2:35:38] >> Town hall meetings are not for putting things out there.
[2:35:42] They're not spending public money to send things out.
[2:35:42] That's what you're prohibited from doing.
[2:35:42] You can host a town hall meeting.
[2:35:44] You can educate that those town hall meetings.
[2:35:59] you balance it and you don't necessarily
[2:36:01] advocate one way or another.
[2:36:01] You get those facts out there on the referendum.
[2:36:01] I think you did have those for your charter amendments
[2:36:01] a couple of years ago.
[2:36:01] Because you faced the same coalition then.
[2:36:01] You cannot use tax dollars to send that information out,
[2:36:03] even if it's education.
[2:36:27] >> We'll discuss that in an upcoming meeting.
[2:36:30] And the legal aspect and we'll rely on Mike
[2:36:33] for all that fancy stuff.
[2:36:42] >> And show them how much they do for you,
[2:36:44] and that's a critical tool.
[2:36:46] >> I appreciate that there was quite a few residents here
[2:36:49] tonight from Marty's presentation.
[2:36:50] I know there was a few neighbors from across the canal that
[2:36:50] showed up.
[2:36:50] I appreciate them showing up.
[2:36:52] >> Anything else?
[2:37:01] We are adjourned.