1 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:12,480 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:19,240 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 3 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,240 justice for all. 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:27,920 » Good morning and welcome to our regular meeting this Tuesday, August 4th, 2026. 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:33,280 Any commissioners want anything removed from our consent agenda? 6 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:37,200 If not, can I get a motion to pull the uh to approve the agenda? 7 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:41,520 » Second. >> Got a motion and a second. Alicia, will 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:45,840 you call the role? >> Commissioner Putnham. [laughter] 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,960 » Uh Errens, >> yes. 10 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:48,000 » Autton, >> I. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:54,079 » Landing? >> Yes. Motion carries. Uh can I get a 12 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:57,760 motion to approve our consent agenda? >> So moved. 13 00:00:55,039 --> 00:01:01,199 » Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. Motion and second. Alicia, will 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,440 you call the roll? >> Commissioner Putner, 15 00:01:02,559 --> 00:01:04,960 » yes. >> Arenss, 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,840 » yes. >> Auton, 17 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:08,880 » I. >> Landing, 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,479 » yes. Motion carries. Moving on to regular business. First item on our 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,479 agenda is board action to approve and authorize chair and auditor to execute 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:22,640 the letter of engagement with the South Dakota Department of Legislative Audit 21 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:26,560 for the audit covering January 1, 2025 through December 31st, 2025. Good 22 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,479 morning, Sher. >> Good morning, Sher. Lincoln County 23 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:33,439 auditor. I've got David here with the South Dakota legislative audit. He's 24 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:36,600 going to go over the engagement letter with you. 25 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:42,079 » Thank you, Sher. Good morning, commissioners. As Sherry said, my name 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:47,920 is David Widler, South Dakota Department of Legislative Audit. 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:54,399 » Uh we are here to conduct a fiscal uh compliance audit for calendar year 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:59,439 ending December 31st, 2025. um kind of some big 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,840 um the major things in the engagement letter that I want you to be aware of. 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:07,759 Um we're going to give our opinion over the financial statements and the notes 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,560 which uh comprise basic financial statements under government um the 32 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:15,760 accounting standards for governments. Uh we're also going to give our opinion 33 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,680 over the following supplementary information. Um that is the budgetary 34 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:24,080 comparison schedules for the general fund and major special revenue funds. um 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,640 the schedule of expenditure of federal awards, uh changes in long-term debt, 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:34,480 and the county's proportionate share of the net pension liability or asset. 37 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Um kind of briefly discusses our audit objectives. 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,879 Um the section that I want to bring your 39 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,599 attention to is the management responsibilities. Um the big one here is 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,720 we've been asked to provide the non- audit service of preparing the notes to 41 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:55,120 the financial statements, the schedule of the county's proportion share of net 42 00:02:52,239 --> 00:03:00,360 pension liability or assets and the schedule of expenditures of federal 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,360 awards. Um 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:10,640 as that is a non- audit service um we request that um management which is um 45 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:15,519 Sherry and the board of governance which is you guys the commission um are 46 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,360 responsible for making all management decisions regarding those items and we 47 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:26,080 will request your representation as such during the closing conference. Um 48 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:32,879 the Sherry has been designated as a person to review the items prepared. 49 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Um management is also responsible for establishing and maintaining effective 50 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:42,720 internal controls including controls over compliance for um state laws, 51 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:48,480 federal grants, so on and so forth. You're also responsible for 52 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:53,440 uh let's see here the design and implementation of programs and controls 53 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:58,159 to prevent and detect fraud and to inform us about any known suspected or 54 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:02,879 alleged fraud. Um any questions on management 55 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:06,159 responsibilities? I know I'm kind of breezing through the letter. I can go 56 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,159 back. Um 57 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:15,680 » David, good morning. >> Good morning. 58 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:22,479 » Is this the standard letter used with county governments? 59 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:26,639 » Yes. Um we have four standard ones. Two um two for the cash basis counties, 60 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:31,840 which is what Lincoln County is, and then we have two for GAP counties, which 61 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:36,000 is uh Minaha and Pennington. Um and then there's two versions. is one for when a 62 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:42,320 uniform guidance audit is required and one that is not. So this is the one for 63 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:48,240 cash basis counties that need a uniform guidance because you have spent over the 64 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:53,360 minimum threshold of federal awards. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. 65 00:04:49,840 --> 00:05:00,639 » Yep. So um it's pretty boilerplate standard that we bring in front of every 66 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,639 um county when we do their audit. Any 67 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:13,440 other questions for management responsibilities? 68 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:18,479 » Any questions? >> All right. Thanks, David. 69 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:22,880 » Okay. Um, the other big piece, um, it kind of briefly discusses the procedures 70 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:27,199 that we're going to do. Um, but the other part that I think you're more 71 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:35,840 concerned about is our billable rate for the state fiscal year 27 is $99. Um, 72 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:41,280 26 was $98. I'm not aware of any time spent on your audit that we would have 73 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:47,360 done during the state's fiscal 26 year, but just in case there was, we're 74 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:51,840 looking at $98 to $99 an hour. That does not include any time spent traveling 75 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:56,479 here for any of us that are working on your audit. That does not involve any 76 00:05:54,160 --> 00:06:01,039 time where excuse me any time where we are here 77 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:09,880 working on another audit or another special project. Um it's strictly time 78 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,880 spent on the audit for Lincoln County. 79 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:25,560 And I think that's all the big points. I'm happy to answer any other questions. 80 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:25,560 » Any other questions for David? 81 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:32,479 » Thanks, David. >> Um, I'm also required to ask about any 82 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,520 if you guys are aware of any fraud, waste, or abuse that you would like me 83 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,880 to look at during the course of this audit. 84 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:47,400 commissioners. >> And if you don't want to 85 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,400 » just overspending, that's about it. 86 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,960 » I'll take that as a no, David. Thanks for asking. 87 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:59,759 » We can get back to you on that. >> Yep. If I was going to say before uh 88 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Commissioner Putnham chimed in there, if you don't want to mention it during an 89 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:08,560 open meeting, um can certainly Sherry's got my information. And if you want to 90 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:13,599 talk to me, I can also give it to um commission assistant Paul if you would 91 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:16,880 rather go through him. So >> did you do the normal interviews with 92 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:23,039 commission with a commissioner? >> I have not yet. So yeah, we are just uh 93 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:28,160 we've been working pretty much the second half of July. So we're just just 94 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,919 getting started. We're getting our toes in the water at the moment. So 95 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:37,000 » All right. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any public input on the 96 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 presentation? 97 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,800 All right. If not, can I get a motion to approve and authorize the chair to 98 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,680 execute and the auditor to execute the letter of engagement? 99 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:53,520 » So move. >> Got a motion. Is there a second? 100 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,599 » I second it. >> Got a motion and a second. If there's no 101 00:07:55,919 --> 00:08:00,240 further discussion, Alicia, will you call the role? Commissioner Putnham? 102 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:01,360 » Yes. >> Schmidt? 103 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,039 » Yes. >> Arens? Yes. 104 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:06,879 » Uton >> I 105 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:11,240 » Lendine. Yes. Motion carries. Next item on our agenda is item presentation. 106 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,720 » Morning commissioners. Terry Floyd, Lincoln County Highway Superintendent. 107 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Um I have IMAG here today um our consultant that uh did the traffic 108 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:33,360 study, the intersection study on uh 106 and Western. So they're going to provide 109 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,360 some high points of that um today. 110 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:41,039 Morning. Thanks, Terry. Um, my name is Josh Prather. I'm here 111 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,720 with Justin Pump and we're here with IMG and uh we did the 106 and Western Avenue 112 00:08:42,959 --> 00:08:49,959 traffic study and I'm going to kind of give you guys the details of that study 113 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,959 here today. 114 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,040 All right. So, I want to give kind of an overview of how we did this traffic 115 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,880 study first and then I'll kind of dig into the conclusions here at the end. 116 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:03,600 I'm going to start here by uh the level of service. Um, so that's kind of how we 117 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:07,120 gauge these intersections. Um, A through F is how they're gauged. You can see on 118 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,160 the right side there, uh, there's a table. So, it's based off the delay in 119 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:16,000 seconds. Um, someone has to wait at that intersection. So, like an A is less than 120 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:20,399 10 seconds all the way to an F, which is more than 80 seconds or 50 seconds. It 121 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,720 kind of bas kind of changes based on what the intersection configuration is. 122 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Um, so Lincoln County's master transportation plan and kind of the 123 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:34,399 general um industry standard is kind of level of service C or better, you're 124 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:38,800 good. Um, D or worse, it kind of need to improve that intersection. Um, people 125 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:42,160 are kind of waiting too long. Um, how we did the traffic study, uh, we put 126 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:47,279 traffic cameras up. Um, the traffic cameras, uh, counted the ADT, watched 127 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:50,720 all the turning movements, um, kind of seeing how people are getting through 128 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:54,640 the intersection currently, and then we project that going forward. Um we 129 00:09:53,040 --> 00:10:00,160 forecasted everything in the show for conclusions on this study are forecasted 130 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:04,320 20 years into the future. Um and then this is kind of a normal traffic study 131 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:08,240 is looking 20 years into the future. And then I will touch on the current year 132 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,519 scenario kind of why the tra or why we need to upgrade that intersection here. 133 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,760 Um you'll see that as I get through kind of the conclusions. Um so here I'm going 134 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,440 to show the best case scenario and the worst case scenario for each 135 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,720 configuration we looked at. Um we went through a bunch of different iterations. 136 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Um, how many iterations you say you did, Justin? 137 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,240 » Around eight iterations. >> So, like eight different, you know, ways 138 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,600 of the future traffic. You know, it's kind of hard to predict the future, but 139 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,399 we tried to do it. We looked at Sou Falls development. We looked at 140 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:39,279 Harrisburg development, um, looked at the 106 corridor study, uh, looked at 141 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:42,880 South Veterans Parkway study, um, the Hosman development study, yada yada 142 00:10:40,959 --> 00:10:47,440 yada, all the studies we found through that area. So, 143 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:52,880 all right. First configuration we looked at here, um, is a traffic signal with 144 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,279 the current lane configuration. So, we're not going to change anything. 145 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:59,920 We're just going to put traffic signals up. This is the best case scenario 20 146 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:04,959 years in the future. And I want you guys to look um here. So, this is where the 147 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,360 level of service in the AM is, and this is the level of service in the PM is 148 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:12,959 here. Um, so you can see the level of service in the morning would be a D and 149 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:18,079 the level of service at night would be a B. Um, also kind of I kind of like I'm a 150 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:23,040 visual guy. The seconds doesn't really get me. So right here you'd be waiting 151 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:26,640 behind 25 cars in the morning. So if you think you know you're waiting in traffic 152 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:31,040 behind 25 cars, it's kind of a kind of a long way is what I see that as. 153 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,480 And then the worst case scenario, 20 years in the future, if we don't improve 154 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,800 the intersection at all, um level service F in the morning, you'd be 155 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:42,880 waiting behind about 73 cars and then level service E at night. So, we kind of 156 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:47,920 threw this option out right away. Um something needs to be upgraded. 157 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:51,360 Second one we looked at here would be a traffic signal with added lanes, an 158 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,360 updated configuration. So, right turn lanes, left turn lanes. I'm kind of 159 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:59,680 getting that whole intersection bigger with traffic signals. So the best case 160 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:04,560 scenario 20 years in the future level of service C in the morning and then a 161 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:08,959 level of service B at night. Um and that is actually acceptable um based on you 162 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:14,399 know industry standards in the Lane County Master Transportation Plan. 163 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:19,760 And then uh the worst case scenario 20 years from now we're looking at an F at 164 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:24,800 night or in the morning and a C in the PM. Um, so in our eight iterations that 165 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:30,800 we ran this, we kind of were everywhere between a C and an F um for the um 166 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,880 worst, you know, through all of our scenarios for the traffic signals with 167 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:40,320 those added lanes. So then we looked at a third option here. So roundabout um 168 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:44,480 and then we needed um non-yielding right turn lanes on the north side of the 169 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,279 intersection. Um so if you're coming eastbound turning north, you wouldn't 170 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,480 even enter the circle. You just turn right through. And then if you're coming 171 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:55,040 south, you just turn straight to the west. Um so the best case scenario, 172 00:12:52,959 --> 00:13:00,480 level service A in both the morning and night. Um and then worst case scenario 173 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:04,800 at the roundabout here. Um level service B in the morning and at night. Um you 174 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:09,279 know, worst case scenario, you're probably waiting behind, you know, nine 175 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:16,240 cars, maybe six cars, um before you can get through the circle. So 176 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:19,519 yeah. So I got a summary here of all those services. So, I'm going to touch 177 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:25,680 on the current configuration. 20 years in the future, every model you run, it's 178 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:30,880 an F. Currently, it is an E. Um, and then I think it's only one or two years 179 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:34,959 in the future, it turns to an F. Um, so in the next, you know, 2 2 3 years, it 180 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:40,000 will be enough people will be waiting upwards of 80 seconds at the worst time 181 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:44,519 during the day. >> Can I ask a question? 182 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,519 » Yes. 183 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:49,440 Have you figured in highway 100 or Veterans Parkway? 184 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,920 » Yes. >> In this Y 185 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,079 » on Western and that intersection. >> Yes, we did. 186 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:58,639 » Yep. We took So, there's a whole corridor study that they did for that 187 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,720 and the whole corridor study you guys did for 106. So, we took into account, 188 00:14:01,199 --> 00:14:07,839 you know, the cuz the traffic is going to dip and then go back up is kind of 189 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:10,079 the way, you know, the 20-year plan goes. 190 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,639 So, >> and I'll add to that, we expect the 191 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:19,040 traffic to increase on the northbound or the north lane of that, but decrease on 192 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:23,880 the east west lanes. So, we took that into account doing this study as well. 193 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:34,240 How much does the traffic dip as a result of the opening of Highway 100? 194 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:38,320 And for how long is the dip? >> So, I can go into that. Um, it dips 195 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,639 quite >> Can you move up to the microphone? 196 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,519 » Yeah, sorry. >> Thank you. 197 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:48,880 » So, it dips uh quite substantially in the east and westbound traffic. It dips 198 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:54,240 probably about 50%. The northbound traffic stays around the 199 00:14:51,519 --> 00:15:00,240 same, if not increases due to that new highway there. It's a new entrance for 200 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:06,880 traffic to come in. >> How long will the dip be there? Um in 201 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:11,279 the highway 106 corridor study, it showed the dip being there past 20 202 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:15,279 years. Um then we took into account the developments in the area and increase 203 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:19,760 that. So about 20 years it'll get back to what it currently is in the east and 204 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:24,040 west traffic. >> Okay. Thank you. 205 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,040 » Yep. 206 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:31,360 » So um I think we attached our whole study on this but uh the recommendation 207 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,800 the conclusion from the study I'm just going to jump down to the highlighted 208 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,720 portion. Um the recommended long-term solution is a single lane roundabout 209 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:42,480 with non-yielding right turn lanes in the southbound and westbound directions. 210 00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:46,639 Um which provides the highest level of service for all times with level service 211 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:52,480 A for both AM and PMP peak hours and contains the fewest conflict points. 212 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:57,519 Okay, with all that that's uh kind of the gist of what we got for our uh 213 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:02,920 study. Um yeah, open up to any more questions. 214 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:02,920 » Commissioners have any questions? 215 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,680 All right, >> Josh or Justin, when you talked about 216 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:17,839 development, you know, future development, what kind 217 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:22,560 of what kind of numbers or did you contemplate and where would that 218 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:26,480 development be? >> Yeah, so there's some uh current 219 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,000 developments that are planned. There's the Hosman development which is directly 220 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,959 on that northwest corner of the intersection. M 221 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:38,079 » it's an apartment complex and they performed their own traffic impact study 222 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:42,161 and so we use their numbers that they figure will be entering and exiting 223 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:46,160 exiting this development. The same [clears throat] goes for um developments 224 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:52,399 south of the intersection like the Allure development and the Lone Tree 225 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:57,360 Birdie View and the Empire companies. So, these are all planned developments 226 00:16:55,199 --> 00:17:02,079 um that we've seen and they perform their own traffic impact studies based 227 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:05,360 on the number of people that can live in these apartments or would be entering 228 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:08,799 the developments. >> And there's a natural percentage too 229 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:13,120 that we increase, you know, every year based on, you know, rising populations 230 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,799 around the area, too. So, now 231 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:22,559 » you're talking about the south on the gravel road. They're going to develop 232 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:26,640 that. That's already been given then. Yeah. Um eventually there will be 233 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:32,960 developments in that area that's kind of shown. 234 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:36,400 » I mean is there now projected or just just a theory? 235 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:41,440 » Yeah, that inter that uh leg of the intersection actually increased the most 236 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:47,280 for our projected traffic cuz right now there's very few vehicles going through. 237 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:50,880 I believe um in the AM it was only like 15 cars in the peak hour. 238 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:54,720 » Oh, I'm sure. And then in the future, we've got that at like 200 cars in the 239 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:59,200 peak hour. >> I thought maybe there's somebody already 240 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:01,760 developing or planning. >> I believe Allura is already developing 241 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:06,120 right down there. >> Okay. 242 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,120 » Is that true, Terry? 243 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:20,799 » So, um Ally was uh uh there along County Road 117 uh to the west of this and then 244 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:24,400 south of that is Birdie View. But there there were four or five different 245 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:29,520 developments that went together to do a traffic study in that area. Um and there 246 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:36,080 are there is one or two that are directly south of this at western and 247 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:39,360 272nd area. So and and the one that you're talking about on the north side 248 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:45,440 with these apartment buildings on the northwest corner. Again, that traffic 249 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:48,640 study just came to me uh probably April or something this year. It's the first 250 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:54,559 time I heard about anything going in there. Um, and it sounds like these uh 251 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:59,039 these are a go. Um, as far as I since they they've done the study, they done 252 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:02,640 the back work on this. So, um, my assumption is these these will be going 253 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:07,039 in. It's just a matter of when the start date is. 254 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:14,880 Terry, has there been any discussion with the city of Harrisburg on what's 255 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:22,880 going to happen uh on 117 uh at the intersection of 117 and to the 256 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:28,240 south of Birdie View? Uh 257 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:36,720 right now I will say this um I am uh we are working back and forth through 258 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:40,080 access um issues uh with the city and uh like I said that those are kind of 259 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:43,280 ongoing negotiations that that I've been working with them on. 260 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:51,360 So, >> is uh Harrisburg interested taking over 261 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:55,919 117 from that intersection to the roundabout 262 00:19:53,520 --> 00:20:00,799 » of 117 south? >> Correct. 263 00:19:57,919 --> 00:20:06,160 That would be what I would prefer. Um this this is what I've been telling 264 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:12,320 them. um the access points that they want where they want them will not 265 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:17,039 conform to what our standard is. So I can't approve them or I won't 266 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:22,720 approve them not on a heavily travel road like that if they're not conforming 267 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:27,360 to my standard. And again um we've I've had many conversations with with 268 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:32,240 officials from the city of Harrisburg uh on this. Uh we've been actually 269 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:35,919 working on some sort of agreement for about a year 270 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:44,400 and a half now ever since these developments kind of came to fruition. 271 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:50,400 So um like I said I think in the end that I think hopefully my my hope would 272 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:54,400 be that they would take these. Now, it would probably be a very similar 273 00:20:51,919 --> 00:21:00,799 agreement to what we had inked with uh the city of TE 2 years 2 years ago, 3 274 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:05,919 years ago, um where they requested an additional 2 mi of County Road. Um 275 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:11,840 basically, we'll we'll do an agreement with them. Um and again, the logistics 276 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:15,039 of the agreement are are all up for I mean, I'm open to anything, but 277 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:18,799 basically, we would give them the road right away. 278 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,960 They can do anything they want to it. And basically we're going to maintain 279 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:26,799 the surface for an x number of years so they don't have to maintain it while 280 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:31,600 these while these developments are getting going. 281 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:37,280 I mean that that's that would be in lie of having to make payments like we did 282 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:44,480 six seven years ago when we had agreements with both Harrisburg and T. 283 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:48,600 » Thank you. >> Other questions from the commission? 284 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:55,080 All right. Thank you. Any public input on the presentation? 285 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:04,000 » All right. If not, then we will move on to item three on our agenda. Board 286 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:09,000 discussion on the Justice Center. Commissioner Putnham, that's your agenda 287 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,000 item. Go ahead. 288 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Well, it's going to be a tale of three courouses. 289 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:50,960 Okay. Hutchinson County built a courthouse. 290 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:55,799 Hansen County built a courthouse. Turner just got theirs done. 291 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:06,360 Let's see now. How do we do this? Place it below. 292 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:06,360 Paul 293 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:36,840 Okay. Now, here's one courthouse that was built. Now, I don't know if that is 294 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:45,400 Hutchinson. It probably is. 295 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,720 There we go. Hansen County, I'm guessing. 296 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,726 Now that's a one story [clears throat] 297 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:09,880 18,000 square foot plus 5400 in the basement 298 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:21,960 at a cost of 2.8 million and it was done in 2010 I 299 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960 think. 300 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:33,440 Okay, now this is probably Hutchinson County. They 301 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:38,080 just maybe done it. This is a rough draft, 302 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:41,480 but there's about 33,000 square foot 303 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:50,080 at a one story at a cost of $5 million. Now think of 304 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:57,840 the square footage on this whole deal and the cost. 305 00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:04,480 When was this built? Oh, I don't know 306 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:10,720 if it's few years ago less than 10 307 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:15,760 and it don't matter. Cost could increase a little bit but we're we're looking at 308 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:21,120 square footage. Now, here's Turner County. They just 309 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,760 built it. That's two stories. 310 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:35,279 And we got about 28,500 311 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:40,240 square foot total, two stories. See, they built two stories 312 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:45,817 because they didn't have a lot of room to go with a one story or it would have 313 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:49,440 been a lot cheaper. [clears throat] 314 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:55,799 Now, this is a cost of $19.8 315 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,799 million. 316 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:10,320 Now to understand what I'm saying here, we've got 317 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:16,400 a complete upstairs with two courtrooms, a big one and a small one, and then all 318 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:22,760 of the administration having anything to do with courtroom, 319 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,760 justice, everything. 320 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:35,919 That's on the second story. Okay. Now, my contention being to compare it to 321 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:39,559 this court rooms that we built out there in the cow pasture 322 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:53,159 at 74 or 5,000 square foot. Would that be right? 323 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:53,159 Okay. Now, we go back to Turner County. 324 00:26:55,039 --> 00:27:06,000 the first floor. If we got rid of everything, just just got rid of it all, 325 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:11,919 you know, and just it was an open place, we could probably put in about probably 326 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:16,320 four more courtrooms with 327 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:24,919 total of six courtrooms. Now that would be then considered 328 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,919 courtrooms, not a courthouse. 329 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:40,159 So my contention being is how the heck did we end up with 74,000 330 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:47,520 square foot or 75,000 square ft for six courtrooms, maybe only four that 331 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:55,120 we're using. three stories, had 40 acres, could have built one 332 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:01,120 a one one didn't have to be three stories. Who 333 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:06,000 signed off on that building that 334 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:10,559 monstrosity? That's what I'd like to know. Paul, can you find out who signed 335 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:17,919 off on that? You know, it's just 336 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:25,679 a total what do you call it? 337 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:32,679 A boondoggle. Big blue silo. All the people my age big blue silo 338 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:32,679 meant. You know what it meant. 339 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:42,720 Who? Why was this ever built? And another 340 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,200 thing too, everybody kept thinking it was uh 341 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:54,080 um oh going to be a jail there. I had a lot of people that was under 342 00:28:51,760 --> 00:29:00,720 that illusion because they built it so big and it wasn't. There's no jail, just 343 00:28:58,159 --> 00:29:03,720 courtrooms. Now, 344 00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:15,039 if you compare that, even if you added a couple thousand square foot over Turner 345 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:22,080 County's building there and made it a little more elaborate, 346 00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:27,679 you couldn't spend $54 million. They Turner County, the guy that I 347 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:32,480 talked to, the commissioner said, "Yeah, they had some spenders on their board, 348 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,840 too. So, they spend a little more." He said they could have done it for less 349 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:41,919 than 198.8 million, but 350 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:46,120 you know, they have their spenders, so they cost them a little more. 351 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:51,640 How can you compare a complete courthouse 352 00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:59,919 to what's out there in the cow pasture from $19.8 353 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:06,080 million to $54 million. 354 00:30:03,235 --> 00:30:10,480 [clears throat] All of the taxpayers in Lincoln County are going to have to 355 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:17,840 pay on that for how long was it? 26 years or 50 years? 356 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:23,799 50. 50 years. How can this how can this travesty ever 357 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,799 have happened? 358 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:31,679 I mean this is the biggest 359 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,279 I don't know in the in the corporate world this would be called a joke I 360 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:41,880 think. Um, 361 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,880 so then we have 362 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:51,760 excuse me, I solemnly do swear that I will uphold the United States 363 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:57,200 Constitution of South Dakota and I will fairly impartially and honestly 364 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:05,279 discharge my duties. Well, there was a dereliction of duty here. 365 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:13,399 Now, we have to pay on that for 50 years. $3 million a year. And of course, 366 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,399 this is part of the 367 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:22,080 $12 million. Is that correct? Deficit that we have. That would be in that. 3 368 00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:29,120 million bucks would be in that. No, it isn't even in that. So, hell, for 27, 369 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,320 we got 15 million. Then, would that be right? I you're throwing numbers out. I 370 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:38,640 don't know. >> Well, the payment is 3 million bucks a 371 00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:45,399 year, my understanding. Give or take. Maybe it changes from year to year, 372 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,399 50 years. 373 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:53,559 You even put a roundabout in the parking lot. What did that cost? Who signed off 374 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,559 on that? 375 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,120 Anybody? 376 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:04,519 this I I just can't understand this. 377 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:11,320 But anyhow, there's one part of my threepart section. 378 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:21,159 You guys got hosed. All the taxpayers of Lincoln County. 379 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,159 I'm sorry. 380 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,960 Any public input on the presentation? 381 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:39,919 All right. If not, we will move on to our opportunity for public comment for 382 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:44,519 items not on our agenda. Anyone wishing to come up? Now would be the time to do 383 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,519 so. 384 00:32:50,640 --> 00:33:00,240 » Good morning. Sarah Stever 46850 276th Street in Lennox. Uh, I just wanted to 385 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:04,640 give a shout out to Terry for being such a good steward and last 386 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:09,679 week trying to present a number of ways to save some money on what we are doing 387 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:14,240 in the roads and bridges of our county. Um, I don't know if that's maybe not 388 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,880 helpful to you, Terry, to get called out, but I did appreciate it and I 389 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,679 thanked him and I thought I should thank him publicly for that. Um, I think 390 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:27,120 stewardship is a really important thing. Um, and to see that was awesome. To see 391 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:33,039 that followed by what happened with the raises and um, I would say I know it's 392 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,080 hard to keep good people. You can never pay people enough because you're asking 393 00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:39,519 them for their time and they're giving you something that is most precious to 394 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:42,480 them. Uh, and they don't ever get it back after they've spent an entire day 395 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,799 working for you. So, I'm I'm happy for them. They probably all deserved a raise 396 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:51,760 regardless of what is reflected in our budget. But the way that went through 397 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:56,240 that I thought was maybe an injustice to someone like Terry who's working hard to 398 00:33:53,519 --> 00:34:01,600 save money on the budget is that was he the person that got the $25,000 raise or 399 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:08,320 was he a person that got a 3% raise? Like there was no merit-based 400 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:13,359 um that I could see as a citizen um that was part of that lump of money that got 401 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:17,760 distributed. It just seemed like it was based on external factors, not 402 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:22,639 necessarily the hard work or earnestness or all the good qualities that you have 403 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:28,079 in an employee that you really value that went into who got what raises. And 404 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:32,480 I guess in in hindsight, I wish we could have had a process where anything over 405 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:35,919 3% was actually pulled out and reviewed to see, you know, maybe there's a reason 406 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:39,280 why that person wasn't where they should have been in terms of salary. Maybe 407 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:43,040 there's a really specific reason for that. Maybe they hadn't earned it. maybe 408 00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:48,800 the person sitting next to them in the desk deserved the $25,000 raise and not 409 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:53,440 necessarily the 3%. And the fact that that came on already a five and a half% 410 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:58,240 for the year. Um anyway, compliments Terry. Um and I'm 411 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,400 sorry. I hope he got one of the bigger raises. So, thank you. 412 00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:06,440 » Thank you. >> Other public comment today. 413 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:13,599 All right. If not, we'll move on. Is there a commission office report? 414 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,880 Not not today. >> All right. Commissioner reports, 415 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,720 » madam chair, >> go ahead. 416 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:28,640 » I was going to report on the Lincoln County achievement days. Uh I attended 417 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:36,240 um several events that were there. Uh like 418 00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:43,200 to report that um it was very active. Uh it's nice to see um all the young 4ers 419 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:48,400 that are out there in every dimension. The number of livestock especially the 420 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:54,480 number of cattle uh is up considerably from where they 421 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:59,359 were. Uh they're um I don't know give you a percentage but I think we had a 422 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:04,000 full barn. The number of hogs of course remain fairly constant. Goats continue 423 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:10,480 to grow. Chickens continue to grow. rabbits continue to grow and all kinds 424 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:15,040 of activities out there and the uh the um we attended 425 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Commissioner Jim and I attended the style show of all things and some of 426 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:27,040 these uh young seamstresses are are pretty good. So all in all, um I 427 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:34,240 reminded of the fact that this county did step up and we purchased a uh 428 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:39,599 wonderful facility for our young people and to have watched that thing grow. So 429 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:47,040 that now we have exhibit barns for all livestock and we have an arena to uh 430 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:53,359 present not only for uh sales but also for horse events. and we have a a room 431 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:59,839 out there and all of that has been uh a lot of that has been contributed and 432 00:36:55,359 --> 00:37:05,760 raised by 4 uh parents themselves. So I think it's a tribute to their capacity 433 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:10,800 and to all of the uh institutions such as banks and jerry's and everybody else 434 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:17,920 that made a contribution. That's one. Two. I attended the IAAP 435 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:24,000 board meeting up in um Brookings. Uh IAP interace community action continues to 436 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:30,240 look at their services. And uh I might add that I've always 437 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:37,200 asked for what we look at being included in IAP as opposed to rock because I 438 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:42,960 think that the one out of Wagner uh is a mere shadow of what the uh folks do up 439 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:48,240 at Madison. So anyway, that's that's in discussion purposes, but nonetheless, 440 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:53,599 the numbers of people that are being served by IAP, it continues to grow. And 441 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:59,280 the one thing they dedicated a new kitchen in which they are preparing 442 00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:06,480 meals very nutritious meals and are frozen and they are now extending those 443 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:13,920 meals out west river where they are put in a refrigeration unit in various uh 444 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:19,520 businesses and people can access them. So they continue there are are that 445 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:28,000 program Meals on Wheels continues to grow as does self-help uh housing as 446 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:33,280 does uh early childhood development and several other programs but that's enough 447 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:36,079 for me but IP does a tremendous job. Thank you. 448 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:41,119 » Thank you commissioner. Other commission reports this morning? 449 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:46,160 » Yep. Go ahead commissioner. >> Um just a little update. We did have a 450 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:52,480 meeting myself and Commissioner Schmidt with Linux on the ambulance situation 451 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:58,640 going on there yet. Um, still working on that. I wanted to let you know we are 452 00:38:54,720 --> 00:39:02,079 actively pursuing options with that. So, uh, second thing is is less of a 453 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,560 comment, more of a question. I got an email from a constituent last week and 454 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,079 it's honestly something that I've wondered about for years myself as I 455 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,400 wander around the courthouse. I'm assuming somebody will be able to 456 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,839 provide me with an answer with it because I don't know. Their question is 457 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:22,000 is that they're from Beersford area and as you walk around we have all the 458 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:26,240 current communities and past communities in Lincoln County on the wall but we 459 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,680 don't have Beersford on the wall. Now I'll be honest for years I've walked 460 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:35,920 around looked at those pictures and wondered why there's no Beersford. 461 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:40,079 We got an answer for that. I don't [laughter] 462 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:45,440 » I don't I don't think anyone gave us one. What's the I don't think anyone 463 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:49,520 gave us one. I think these came from I don't know where where the pictures come 464 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:54,079 from. I think they came from the about the time that we moved from the old uh 465 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,720 building to the new building and they were left over. But I don't think 466 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:02,560 anybody ever gave us one from Beersford, but we're happy to put one up. I think 467 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:06,800 we should make the effort as that community is continuing to grow in into 468 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:12,320 southern Lincoln County. We should acknowledge them. I don't know who's in 469 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:16,320 charge of that to make that happen, but >> feel free to talk to me and we'll get 470 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:23,800 something figured out. We need to get with Mayor Celely, 471 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,800 get with Eli, right, and get it done. 472 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,000 » All right. Any other commission reports today? 473 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:40,320 All right. Um, just a couple of things that come to mind as I've sat here and 474 00:40:37,839 --> 00:40:44,880 listened to Commissioner Putnham on his presentation. And I understand, you 475 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:50,560 know, as commissioners, we can disagree about decisions that the commission has 476 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:57,040 made. Um, historically, Commissioner, um, the courts approached us and, um, 477 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:01,119 years ago about this. So, it's been an ongoing thing in Lincoln County for 478 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,040 quite some time. So, you could familiarize yourself with that by 479 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,359 watching prior meetings or having discussions with the courts, with 480 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:13,920 myself, uh, with other commissioners who were here. Um, a couple of numbers that 481 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:19,440 you brought up. Turner Countyy's courthouse, you said, was 19.8 million. 482 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:25,119 Turner Countyy's population is under 10,000 people. It's actually just over 483 00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:31,119 9,000 people. So per capita, they're spending about $2,25 484 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:36,560 per taxpayer. In Lincoln County, that's not the case. Uh we're under budget with 485 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:42,319 our 54.8 um bond. We have a population of over 486 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:46,960 77,000 people. And if you math that out, rough numbers, um, if we come in under 487 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:53,520 budget like I'm expecting, it's roughly $650, 488 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:59,599 um, per capita for Lincoln County. So, we are far below uh, what Turner County 489 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:05,040 spent per person given our population of over 77,000 people. That's my report for 490 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:09,839 today. >> Now, can I 491 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:12,480 » No, that's a report. No, I'm gonna I'm gonna 492 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:16,240 » Any other commissioner reports today? >> Yeah, I think I think Commissioner 493 00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:22,400 Putnham ought to be allowed to talk. Why are we censoring him here? 494 00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:27,040 » So, where do you where do you have to go this morning that you don't have time to 495 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,720 give to the public? Seriously, >> the time to give to the public. So, if 496 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,800 we want to go there and I didn't want to go there, Commissioner Putnham has been 497 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:40,000 on this commission for over a year and a half. He has not toured that courthouse. 498 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:44,640 He has not sat down and asked any questions about that courthouse. 499 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:49,359 Instead, he just complains about it. And frankly, um the people that are working 500 00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:54,240 on that project, I've had over 200 meetings on that project. So, if he 501 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:58,960 really had questions, really wanted to know what was going on, really wanted to 502 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,119 know why the courthouse was built, he would have already had those 503 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:06,079 discussions. >> Well, maybe you'd come back and report 504 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:10,800 that to us without being asked to. Any commissioner here is welcome. 505 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:16,720 » How many times have you just on your own come here and said, "Hey guys, here's 506 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,720 what's going on." Hardly ever. >> And nobody's asked. 507 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,240 » We don't need to ask. >> No. 508 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:29,520 » Leadership requires you to unilaterally stand up and say to people, "Here's the 509 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:34,160 report here. Hey guys, here's what's going on. 510 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,200 I had a meeting yesterday. I'm passing along to you 511 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,240 » and I just gave my report. >> Yep. 200 meetings in one report. Thank 512 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,640 you. >> Um and now 513 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,800 No, you're out of order. >> No, I'm not. 514 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,359 » You are out of order. >> I tell you what, this deal went way over 515 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:57,920 your head. >> It had nothing to do with 516 00:43:55,359 --> 00:44:03,920 anything more than you over spent, overbuilt, and that was it. I was 517 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:08,400 comparing apples to apples. Do you understand that? 518 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:11,839 » Commissioner or excuse me, Jurro, do we need executive session? 519 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:17,760 » Yes, we need an executive session under SDCL 1252 sub3 and sub4. 520 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,880 » All right. Can I get a motion under SDCL 125 sub 2? You said three and four. 521 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,480 » Correct. >> All right. Can I get that motion, 522 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:25,880 please? >> So moved. 523 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:27,900 » Thank you. Is there a second? [clears throat] 524 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,240 » Second. >> All right. We've got a motion and a 525 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:39,440 second. Uh, Lisa, will you call the role? Commissioner Putton, 526 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:40,720 » don't know what it's about, so whatever. >> Schmidt, 527 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,079 » yes. >> Arens, 528 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,920 » yes. >> Odd. 529 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:48,119 » I. >> Landing. 530 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:48,119 » Yes. 531 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:53,680 » Executive session. >> So moved. 532 00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:59,280 » Got a motion from Commissioner Schmidt, second from Aaron's. Alicia, we call the 533 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,200 RO. Commissioner Putton, >> yes. Schmidt, 534 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:02,560 » yes. >> Arens, 535 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,839 » yes. >> Hi. 536 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,000 » Landing, >> yes. Motion carries. Can I get a motion 537 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:10,480 to adjurnn, please? >> Move. 538 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:16,400 » Got a motion from Schmidt. Second from Arenss. All in favor signify by saying 539 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:19,760 I. I. Any oppose? Same sign. All right. Great. Thank you, everybody.