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Good evening, everyone. It is September 10th, 2026, and we're here to convene a meeting of the Lincoln select board.

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Let's see, pursuant today's session of the remote meeting authorization of the open meeting on through June 30th, 2027 under chapter 2 of the Acts of 2025.

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This meeting of the select board will be conducted as a hybrid meeting, providing the public the opportunity to participate in person more remotely,

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specific information in the general guidelines for remote participation by members of the public and or parties with the right and or requirement to attend this meeting can be found on the town of Lincoln website at www.lincolntown.org.

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I am Jim Hutchinson, the current chair of the select board.

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I will invite the other member of the president to agree with themselves.

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Just putting out that advice.

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Can't bond or select board?

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Yeah, for the last select board.

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10 Higgins, time to demonstrate them.

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You know, they're administrative assistant.

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Thank you, Peggy.

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Tonight's agenda, we have some announcements, possibly.

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We have some appointments.

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First, with the board of assessors,

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to do our annual their annual tax classification here,

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and it's that's your year and that mark here.

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Yes, and our, certainly, certainly.

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We're going to wait here.

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I'm going to do me in the sense.

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All right.

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The session.

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And seven will have a meeting.

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And appointment with the Green Energy Committee.

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Talk about the Green Energy Choice program and ongoing discussion of that.

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Then we'll switch to our discussion section of the meeting.

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We'll talk about special time meeting and stay on the town meeting planning.

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We'll give an update on the library at HVAC System Assessment.

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We'll have our third reading and potentially vote to approve a social media policy.

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We'll hear a proposal for discovering Lincoln.

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We'll hear a proposal regarding the day colony redevelopment.

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And we'll talk about select connect and some liaison reports.

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Next, we'll cover the town administrators report.

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who will report on landfill solar project update,

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LS regional agreement updates,

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road wave projects updates,

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the select board policy manual progress to date,

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a community center building use policy efforts that have started,

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and then we will have a public participation

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interlude where all invite questions and comments from general public.

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Finally, we'll take care of our action items if they have not been taken care of earlier

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meeting.

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We will vote to set the FY27 property tax rate, potentially vote to modify link and

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green energy choice program, potential vote to approve our social media policy, potential

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vote to support our discovery link in the initiative, a vote to approve the historic preservation

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agreement for 32 tower road, and then we will review prior action items, cover our

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consent list, which includes minutes from August 25th, once from two days ago,

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and vote, we will also

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vote to confirm the meeting scheduled going forward. Finally, if any of the selects would like,

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we will review various items of correspondence we have received in the last

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meeting.

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And that agenda, let's start with announcements.

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Does anyone have an announcement tonight?

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I have just a couple.

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One is a second annual constitution day.

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Community read aloud is next Wednesday, September 16th.

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tomorrow is the deadline to let me or Rob Stranger know if you would like to be one of our readers.

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It was fun event last year. We have a moderator, a different moderator this year,

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but it would be a similar format and hope everyone can join us and come be an audience member.

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Even if you don't want to be a reader, also then we have a second event related to Constitution Day

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on the 22nd, which is Tuesday.

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And that is going to be facilitated

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by the same person who is facilitating the reading.

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And her topic is art and conversation.

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And it's a focus on the preample.

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And sort of getting towards a more perfect you can.

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So that should be a fun event.

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That will be in the art and multi-purpose room at 7 p.m.

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22nd and the Constitution read is on that 7 p.m. on Wednesday, 6th and then I I just also wanted to note that tomorrow is the 25th anniversary of the events of my 11.

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that the impact of that day, so we'll start our world.

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The town of Sudbury is hosting a memorial event tomorrow.

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If there are residents who would like to go join them, I'm sure we can do that.

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So, just thinking of it.

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Thank you, Jennifer.

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I do not have any announcements.

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So let's get on to our first appointment of evening with the board of assessors.

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Tim, did you want to do any intro on this one?

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Yes, we could read the public hearing.

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So, right, does somebody have that handy?

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Let's see.

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See if I can find it quickly.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Got it.

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Let's see.

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Right to read the whole thing.

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Yes, though.

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So, this is the legal notice for a public hearing on the select board for a property tax classification hearing.

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The select board of the town of Lincoln will conduct a public hearing on Monday evening, September 10, 2026 at 630 p.m.

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That's us right now.

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For the purpose of determining for a fiscal year 2027, the percentage of real estate property tax burden that shall be born by the residential and commercial classifications of poverty respectively.

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General inquiries prior to the hearing may directly be directed to the assessor's office,

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Lincoln Town offices at 7.12592611.

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We're so into the extension of the remote meeting authorization of the open meeting law through

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Term 30 of 2027 under Chapter 2 of Acts of 2025.

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This meeting of the select board we conduct as higher meeting, providing the public

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the opportunity to participate in personal role.

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Maybe read this.

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Are you all ready?

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So I think we're good to go.

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I think we open the hearing.

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We need this actually.

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It's going to be a meeting, so we have to, we have to be in a part of a session meeting,

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we have a parallel.

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Yes, let us finish moving that we're, we're meeting.

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Oh please, I better remove it all second.

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Any discussion?

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Let's do a roll call vote.

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Fine, alright, go ahead, sorry.

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I should say hi.

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I know you guys are right.

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I moved the video for the first time.

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Could you introduce yourself?

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I'm not for more than 10 more.

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And this is Bruce Campbell. Thank you. And move away from Board of Social Media. So that's that. It's very simple this year. I don't know if you've spread the memo, but we have the same three questions. We always have to pass four questions. This year is interesting because the basically the tax rate is flat, the assessed values are flat, everything is flat. So nothing is stranger.

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it's so. Thank you for the news. Yeah, everything from that one. So our recommendations are

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keeping the existing 1.5 virtual factor. The justification for that isn't, it hasn't really changed.

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I was telling a phone call justification is that by the telephone call, get tests that are

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So if I'm doing that, we're going to put that square, is it someone down?

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I guess we just cut through these in order help.

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That's pretty much one thing.

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Yeah, that is the maximum value is 1.5.

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So I can't go and divide it into two.

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If we would bring it down some day, if commercial properties,

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for us to pass through them as an actual property,

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which would be a time to bring that down.

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That has not been had been,

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but also, probably some of the last things,

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that's passed over partial problems.

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So, we'd like to keep them that flat.

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You want to tell us,

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for all of them, would you want to vote on these?

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Can I, before, could I pause just for one second?

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Should I just double check and see if any of the other,

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So I have any questions.

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Now, okay, yes, let's go one by one.

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I think we're supposed to do one by one.

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Yep, okay.

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And motion on the board to accept the recognition of the board on the residential fine.

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So moved.

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Second.

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Any further discussion?

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Let's do roll call vote on that one.

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Bye, Greg.

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Last slide.

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Question so, why?

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All right.

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What's next?

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The next one is the better of an open space

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discount, the definition of open space under this part is very limited.

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And we have very little effect on anything that's certainly

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retinent at the documents.

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I move that we not adopt the open space discount.

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All second?

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The discussion.

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It's your roll call vote.

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But, all right, last time.

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Questions about it?

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All right.

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I don't know if the residential

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is something that is used mainly in towns

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that have a lot of out-of-state, out-of-nome,

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non-residents, vacation noms.

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Kids who used to, so even pass the vacation

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on this one side.

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I agree.

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We've looked into this as it means, perhaps,

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making more affordable than should the monthly suspense of houses, but it really just doesn't

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work on the town as objective and it kind of sounded kind of done well. So we can recommend

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that we will not doubt for us in the extension section.

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Right here, a motion.

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I move that we do not accept the residential exception option as recommended recommended.

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Second.

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Any discussion?

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Let's go ahead and vote.

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On your own.

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Last time.

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Options a lie.

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Okay.

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And the first one is the matter of small partial exemptions.

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Again, this is the one that would be.

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Major headache to administer.

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And so.

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And then one would benefit to the partial suffrage.

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So.

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So we recommend that.

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That.

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it was a move that we not adopt these small commercial

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exception.

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And second.

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Good question.

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I would just ask to do as a general, just sort of what's going on out there.

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Are there any towns that play around with both the commercial and the small commercial to try to attract businesses?

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is it successful or is it so case by case that it's hard to find any, I think that we

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have to make sense that you would have to have a fairly large commercial base, which is

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done.

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There aren't any small towns that have tried to use it to grow their version of base.

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I guess it's actually, I try to try to try to, I don't know for sure, but I was kind of

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Add a periodicity.

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Okay, let's go ahead and vote.

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Fine, all right, go outside.

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Hutchinson, I.

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That's it, right?

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Yep.

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I'm going to let me turn the board and assess groups.

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I agree.

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Thank you.

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I actually have one question for you before you disappear.

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Which is, I believe, last year you were talking about the program,

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the senior property checks right off program, the town version, and it sounded as though there were some pickups with that, and I was just wondering, and I'm trying to remember what those pickups were.

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I mean, it could refresh me, but I got that was the way for you when it was written. Oh, right,

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I tried to provide the relief because it was based on income and not well.

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So it was, and to do a property value, you know,

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income and the property value and the way

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there was a well-relipped man that people who deserved it couldn't get it, so the law of the

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actual, it's the same law that needs to be written, read, read, and take the justice with that,

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and that any, be something that affects the onsite, Lincoln, for it, and some of the chance.

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So it was an issue with the state run program, or with the Lincoln add-on.

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No, it was a state, it was a state option.

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And so is the Lincoln option helping people out?

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Yes, Lincoln.

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Yeah, it helps.

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So I mean, forget how many they were.

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Four and five, six people too.

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But this a lot has been written differently.

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What have gotten some of the reason they didn't get it.

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But for everybody else, it's a big difference.

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So same.

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So an Arctic change would be you have to have a real petition?

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is that the legislative way you're changing this, because that was a discussion I think last year.

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Kim does it. Yeah, I'm going to have to look into and have to see whether it's going to

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the honor of the statewide support or whether it has to be time by time.

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I guess I wasn't aware of the particulars of the Board of Public Health, but I'll check in with the assessors office and report back to them.

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I just remember we had this discussion last year and we were sort of wondering how many people are being served by a Lincoln program and is it working?

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And it was a bit of a snuff-o, but the first year we implemented it, and we didn't do it correctly.

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Okay. And we gave it to some people that were not technically qualified.

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I see.

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The second year in Bruce really came and read it carefully in Ellen and read it carefully in South Korea.

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This is what it really says.

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Let's make the spreadsheet follow what the law already says.

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I don't know.

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And it turns out there was some people out there that had been out of business.

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I would be curious to know what it is doing, what we would both have done.

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The way the formula was really, really complicated.

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I ended up getting town council involved.

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Did they?

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How do we interpret this clause?

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And it was good clause.

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And we wrote or it's the clause in the case.

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It's really safe, we only never write anything next.

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It's very, it's a lot of weed, but it's not going to do something for about

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it, you know, we're easily, so yeah, I guess so this is one of several programs to try

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and buy the breaks, see the work of the senior deferral, this is the basis one for

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option. Thank you. Thank you. So, I'm going to go back to you. Yeah, we've, we've been, I mean, at some point, the right thing for me to do is to do me.

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That's.

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I've got any settings.

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I can't.

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support that.

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Thank you.

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That was good.

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Okay. Thank you very much.

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Oh, no.

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We need to vote to close.

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Oh, yeah, this is probably due very often. I move that we close the public theorem for the text buses if you close the annual tax classification here. There we go. That was a great any discussion.

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Let's go ahead and vote.

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Last night last night.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, it's only have no tax change again.

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Yes, that's fair.

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Excuse me.

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Oh, we need to for the deer.

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That's the public too.

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Right.

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Should we do that now?

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To get them out.

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I don't think you need the board members but sure.

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You can ask.

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So we ran right through that without asking for if there was any questions from the public.

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And are there any questions from the public about the rate hearing?

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If so, please raise your virtual hand and we will pull you on screen.

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Anybody?

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Okay, I don't see any hands being raised, so I think we're good.

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Let's continue on.

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Our next appointment is with the Green Energy Committee, but they are not all here yet.

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We're planning on having it.

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So I suggest that we do a little state-of-the-town meeting planning discussion before and we'll go back to Green Energy at 7.

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You think that work for everybody?

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Yep.

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So to help me out with short-town meeting planning, Marari.

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So I think, and I welcome you, or a perspective on all of the action items.

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but I think we're down to a handful of open items.

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You may have seen in the packet that I translated,

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the conversation about who was presenting,

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which boards and committees into a formal agenda,

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and we put that out and subject to any other said that you may want,

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but I didn't receive any feedback to that,

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so I'm assuming that you're okay with that agenda.

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You ask that we follow up with the boards and committees who will be presenting to confirm that status with them.

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We've done that.

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So they should be getting their presentations together.

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There was instructions that there would be ten minutes maximum on the presentations for those boards and committees.

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And so I think we're good there, the only other action item for the soft tonight is if you want to start thinking about and confirming your individual roles, who's going to welcome and introduce, review the agenda, set contacts, facilitate each of the sessions, etc.

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and no urgency to do that this evening.

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But it would be helpful to get that conversation started.

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Could we think out loud just for a second about that

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in terms of the welcome and introduction

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or straightforward, the library's V8,

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seed session discussion is straightforward.

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The other one's setting the context

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and we're doing the agenda where you or do the other selects

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imagine in a different person, per committee that's getting up or how much, I think this is

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not going around us. Yeah. So again, I'll take a stab at that. Typically, the select board

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chair convenes the meeting, thinking through together the soft is a select board convened meeting where

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a special town need to use a moderator convene meeting.

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So I think our customers have been at the chair,

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does that?

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Well, an introduction, review the agenda,

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set whatever context needs to be done to avoid that,

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popping up and down.

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Jim, that we're concerned about.

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And then we would go into the,

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somebody would explain, I think, the intent

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with the brief presentations.

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and I don't know that we have to a lot of context setting and set up. My thought would be

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would turn it over to the respective chair, Jim, to your point of the board, a committee and

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work our way through each of them. But there reaches a point where a couple of those topics

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are issues that the select board liaison is working on. You know, if we're going to do

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at the end of a conversation about the World Way improvement process, you know, 10 presumably

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as the so-called work liaison and or I would do make that brief presentation about what's happening

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there and let's see, let's be full.

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It's just going to be a, if at that point, there's going to be a brief update on sort of long range

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planning efforts. It's really just to say coming soon, probably.

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Yeah.

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But Jennifer, what do you want thoughts on?

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Yeah.

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What the way you've set this up, it's a joint report on the master plan, the housing production plan, and the open space plan update.

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I don't know if you think all three should, we're all going to be saying the same thing, right?

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Yeah, very early on in the effort.

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Right. I think it's more to just say this is happening.

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a coming year when we're going to really need

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asking residents for lots of input and participation,

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and then, you know, dealing with some big topics,

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and that are all related.

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And that's kind of what that is.

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I'm also realizing that, typically, with the state of the town,

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we allow for an open comment period,

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which one of us facilitates, that we haven't accounted for.

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How much time do we have? I think that we left a little bit of space for about a million. No, no, you want 45 minutes. I mean, you have to change it.

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The 145 and 45.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't think that they.

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I don't think that all of the updates really need a full 10 minutes.

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We've got what you buy. For example, what we just talked about is certainly not a 10 minute.

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you know, it's 82 tops. I think we should be really tight.

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I wish I get everybody to that count, switch to five.

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Switch to five and then rely on the rest of the work to an egg.

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30, that's 50 per Q&A. Yeah.

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We need that right. How much do you say for 15?

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That enough.

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One, two, three, four, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five.

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And actually 20, but you know, I was just 15 20, but that has been a pay for the past

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couple of years and you know, okay, we will call open comment.

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Well, we also have food, yeah, we also have the time for the library Q&A, which has some

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public.

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or just throw out the ideas that people wish we would think about.

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I mean, it's not just Q&A, it's like, yeah, what do you think?

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Yeah, but not Liger.

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I think Liger.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Liger library for the next year.

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Yeah, David, let's say the library, if anything else, I hope and come, hope and comment.

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Jennifer, do you think you would do that two minute?

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Here's what's happening with the planning efforts?

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Was that nice?

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Me too.

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I think it'd be most efficient when you,

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your liaison to Archon Mosin.

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Yes, I will.

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Yep.

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So I'll champion with all of the

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committees and to say what do you want people to know?

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Doesn't somebody perhaps need to have to

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craft her cup and get people

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to down from the podium?

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When they're not getting off the school,

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please they should.

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You think?

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I don't know.

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I think we can probably pop on the

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down for the town meetings we call, you know, articles, next sort of, yeah, those things

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along. In this case, you'll be chair, those typically facilitate, but it's, it's a

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light hand on the rudder, you have the, uh, talk, but the chair would be the point

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person. Okay. Yeah. So I'll be prepared to key on things moving. There's somebody

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for that's that they're out next to whatever. And I think what we've done is made

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or that anyone who is doing that report,

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we are sitting at the front of the room.

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Yeah, so yeah, yeah, right.

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So we're on one side.

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It's presenters room.

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Yeah, just have those little logistics down.

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So we're not spending time following people

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from the back of the room.

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Do we have, if they have any sort of couple slides,

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do we have, we give them deadlines on one,

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we want that over to Michael?

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Yeah, we'll take your little follow.

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So community center building project.

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I feel like that, I hate to say it because it's five minutes, but the beam is all reuse plan.

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It's probably just me, because Sarah, Judy, really haven't been involved in that.

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And that is literally a minute or two. That is a very quick update because there hasn't been much happening

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because we don't have a moving date on the community center.

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But that community center building project should probably be Sarah and Judy.

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Sarah and GD are doing the beamest thing alongside of any better update.

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Yeah. Okay.

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And what I can do is I can pop up because I'm there and then introduce them to provide the

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communities that are building projects so you don't have to put them up to pop up.

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And then we say the way to finance and then we may this may come up in our next discussion

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but I was in the first little bit of third community committee's meeting this morning

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And depending on where our conversation is later tonight in this month, if there is any public comment period that we are starting about the aggregation program, there might be a one sentence sort of reminder to folks that when that whatever that deadline is, which could be delivered just in the opening or but just a reminder somewhere to tell people that that's

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I'm not an extrovert pay, they know how to gauge it.

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But we make it that in spell effort that that was one little piece of kick on this one.

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You know, let's think about tying you back because I feel like if you start with something important,

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it's often people are still wrestling around and haven't got mercy to add in all that.

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Maybe it's in the closing before we move to the library.

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Yeah.

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It's, you'll have everybody's attention about that, I think.

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And more people on the run.

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Yeah.

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And more people on the run.

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Some people will come just for why I'm already enough.

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And then one question is whether

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at the end of the meeting, we want to pull up the same

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two, three questions that we ask that the end of the last

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time meeting, just to kind of start creating a record.

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That's going to don't fit all with the questions, make them exactly the same.

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Well, we definitely wanted to do that for regular town meetings and

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State of the this is for state of the

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Why not it's this town meeting yeah, it's the town meeting. So we just set that clickers

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Because we need to

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Yes, let's let's not fill with a word

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exactly the same also that you've got if you're going to venture far off the first.

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Right.

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So then finance committee is Paul.

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Lincoln and Lincoln said very school committee,

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do you know who's what's the prison on those?

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I don't know.

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We emailed Lincoln representatives to the L.S. school committee,

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the superintendent of superintendent Graham and Matino.

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So yeah, they'll be back to us.

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So I understand it is possible, too.

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Yeah. I also find that it's for each of those, that's your compilation.

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Right, 15.

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You got two and a half minutes.

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We have to do this.

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That's kind of, whether the land is kind of harsh and angry.

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All right.

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Any kind of else?

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So what are we in replacement in payment improvement plans?

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Did you want me to speak to it, or did you want yourself?

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Kim, I don't want to.

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I'm happy to do two minutes update on what's happening on the pavement plan.

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And it will be easier for me to coordinate with work normally to make sure we're

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during that time. Okay. So that's a written tip. What are you giving improvement? Okay.

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That makes sense.

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And on the, you can jump to the library then. And I also,

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reading that discussion. I assume that's what we are going to be about.

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Would do that. Yeah. Okay.

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And is that bringing up other people, or am I going through a slide that stands them over so far?

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Yeah, again, thinking about it, I think the bulk of that presentation would be you.

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And then you would discretion whether or not you would want, you would want Dan involved in that conversation.

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The Dan stuff is probably going to be in response to questions I would think.

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We can't have a mayor level.

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I would think I would have a mayor in case somebody asked something about the answer too.

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I'm just wondering if anybody else, like somebody for the library,

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or, you know, CTC or anybody else that's been involved in this team and effort to get up.

476
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Yeah. You're like, what's helpful about if you do it though is you're not really putting your neutral.

477
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You're coming in and saying, this is the facts.

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Yeah.

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And the library could do that as well. I suppose I just don't know if they anymore have an advocate.

480
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Or they just don't have the experience or not, probably as involved in the details.

481
00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:15,700
But I feel like you come in kind of neutral and I think that makes sense where she's having someone

482
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:22,300
I know Green Energy is over to whatever's decided by the residents, but they obviously have some leaning

483
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,040
The only other question I would have in addition to

484
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:32,240
Jim is is there a financial piece and who would review the financial piece?

485
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:41,180
definitely fine for people over there. Yeah, again, I say solidly seems Jim has been kind of running

486
00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:47,000
carefully alongside the technical, the financial, we've all been trying to keep the library in the

487
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:53,660
loop. I think Jim could do the finances are not as complicated, really, in a high level as

488
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:59,440
sometimes the meetings. Well, I think there are a little complicated right now because I haven't

489
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,940
lock down what the proposal is. So when we get that, yeah, it's going to be boom boom. It's a spreadsheet

490
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:14,180
with, yeah, there's the proposal, there's the tax in fact, the usual, right funding sources and

491
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:21,000
yeah, I don't think it needs the finance committee to present it. So it is really, I mean, it's not

492
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:29,540
there, yet, who's offered off-rothing, which a bunch of funds, but it would be kind of tough

493
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:36,900
or either thin-com or CPC to totally drive that one anyway, right? That's a team effort.

494
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:42,860
Exactly. Exactly. That's why I say, Jim, I think you're a best position, and when we get closer,

495
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:50,520
and you and Dan and I are working on a slight presentation, it'll become more obvious whether

496
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,720
we should include any of the others in the presentation that the war article and what should

497
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,540
feel differently is going to be jointly sponsored, so like a library trustee is because

498
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:08,060
I think it's absolutely appropriate at some point for the library to make some kind of statement

499
00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:15,320
about the problem. I guess I feel like I'm okay with everybody else having me summarized or maybe

500
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,480
none, but actually like the library at least has to go up there and say we've been like

501
00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:25,300
Peter please yeah, or you know whatever they want to say agreed

502
00:34:26,340 --> 00:34:30,500
One minute or you know, it doesn't have to be the whole getting the many details

503
00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:35,800
But it you know, it may not hurt to have that the front of that slide deck

504
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,880
So to I don't know if there's a useful visual in this case or not, but just sort of you know what are the

505
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,880
Oh, yeah, what are the issues we have the picture of

506
00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:50,980
What is it 25 30 year old at the event? Yeah, yeah, you start with that and

507
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,640
and maybe we have the library from up right then.

508
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,060
And say, we'll let that point.

509
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:57,660
Yeah, we'll just to say, you know,

510
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:00,480
we're not the experts on the technology

511
00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:04,660
and the finance and stuff, but we need to pay.

512
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:05,140
We need to pay.

513
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,260
We need to pay.

514
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,740
Is that helpful to use the other way?

515
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:09,320
So I'll use all the library and...

516
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,380
It's full of paper.

517
00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:11,960
It's a happy little.

518
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,240
Chimala, Jackie, no, and Melissa, no.

519
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,180
That will be inviting them into, right?

520
00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:27,000
That would be great. And just tell them it's just going to be, you know, brief one slide kind of,

521
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:33,140
you know, we're not expecting them to carry the significant weight of the person's position.

522
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Right. Yeah. They would not want us to, we don't want, we don't want. We don't want.

523
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,620
They don't, they've gone past where we're going to. Yes, they have.

524
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:43,220
All right, sounds good.

525
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:50,040
Um, can we, uh, correct? Is there, do we know if the moderators going to need any additional

526
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:57,460
minutes? Yeah. Not yet. Okay. On the special town meeting. I think you all have seen his

527
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:10,260
graph. Um, memo. He is going to be a wowing. Um, let's see calling him.

528
00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:17,780
extended to thank you extended presentations if any group comes forward with such a

529
00:36:17,780 --> 00:36:23,020
presentation so we'll have to if he does get somebody in that category and they

530
00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:27,860
have a list of things they have to do to qualify for doing this we'll have to talk

531
00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:36,020
again about schedule yeah where do I would fit but I guess we have to work with the

532
00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:39,740
we can't just tell the moderator, how to run, not meeting family.

533
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,900
So we'll cross that bridge when we get there, I guess.

534
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:47,380
Invite him to join us.

535
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,420
Invite him to join us.

536
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,200
There we go.

537
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,020
Pretty good.

538
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:54,720
Is this a good break point?

539
00:36:54,740 --> 00:36:57,240
Can we switch back to GEC?

540
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:58,800
I see they are present now.

541
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,360
The only other thing I've been mentioned.

542
00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:03,520
Just two days we should always mention.

543
00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,960
The two upcoming meetings we have.

544
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,180
at the September 28th, multi-board, 18th,

545
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,960
and the other one hours,

546
00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:20,860
the September 28th, select board meeting

547
00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:24,420
to discuss, that's the first time.

548
00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:25,160
So September 28th.

549
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,560
That's the first time.

550
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:26,480
That's the second time.

551
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,520
It's the second time.

552
00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:27,920
It's the second time.

553
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:30,660
Yes.

554
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:42,260
That's right.

555
00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:44,020
The address?

556
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:44,140
Yes.

557
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:44,380
It's excellent.

558
00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:01,430
The address?

559
00:38:01,470 --> 00:38:01,490
Okay.

560
00:38:01,510 --> 00:38:01,550
The address?

561
00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:09,710
information session for library track. And in the meantime, thank you, Katie, for getting

562
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:15,470
the postcard out that should be in everybody's mailbox, should be very green.

563
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:16,410
No.

564
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:17,730
Oh, I don't know. Oh, yes.

565
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:20,090
I don't think I can.

566
00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:26,210
No, no, yes. It went to the printer, and it's either going to go out tomorrow or first thing

567
00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:26,450
one.

568
00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:29,370
I need supplies to deliver it to camp. And everything is together.

569
00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:32,230
I can't deliver it myself.

570
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:34,130
Full thatder bin is in there.

571
00:38:34,490 --> 00:38:36,250
Yeah, just take it my yellow.

572
00:38:36,650 --> 00:38:37,630
All right, great, good.

573
00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:38,910
Good day, thank you.

574
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:46,630
And we will also do a paper select for a news letter to send,

575
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:49,630
maybe out at the warrant, or we have to discuss that.

576
00:38:49,770 --> 00:38:54,510
There's something that is the best sort of description

577
00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:57,790
that we can master of project.

578
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:04,790
I'm happy to do all the formatting for that, but I'm not being content specialists on that.

579
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:10,530
Say again when the timing of that, when we have to get that ready.

580
00:39:10,690 --> 00:39:12,690
Just a word, get nailed out.

581
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:17,510
Two weeks, two and a half weeks before the meeting.

582
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:22,970
So we should approve it at our October 5th meeting.

583
00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:44,630
And ideally, we'll have a few FAQs, you know, whatever, whatever you think is a good way of describing the project and maybe hitting on and anticipating what we think a couple of FAQs might be helpful to answer so that we can mail up this to the bottom.

584
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:52,240
timing wise can I work on that with technical part of that with you on the week of

585
00:39:57,430 --> 00:40:04,460
September 20th or 8th. So I've grown up. That's all right. Yeah, that's fine. Is it?

586
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:09,030
We straightforward put it together once they're done. Okay.

587
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:17,930
I'm going to ask you to get me out, the warrant has to get me out, don't later, then October 10th.

588
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:20,130
Okay, so we'll approve it.

589
00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:24,310
Our October 5th meeting and then it can all be all ready.

590
00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:25,410
Does that work for you, Katie?

591
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:26,270
Absolutely.

592
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:34,750
And I already made them aware of when it needed to go out and that I probably would get it earlier that week.

593
00:40:35,110 --> 00:40:35,370
Okay.

594
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:36,310
Thank you.

595
00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:47,250
So I'll touch face with you that way too. I'll get on exactly what length I would say probably more normally we had a total of

596
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:54,290
eight pages so we have to do it in four. So four pages I think would be enough. So yeah,

597
00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:56,390
back in a front and a back.

598
00:40:58,510 --> 00:41:04,730
And you can send it to me. It doesn't have to look pretty,

599
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:09,290
even to sense, but it's the words, it's the words and any charts that you want.

600
00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:12,550
You've got it. Not for you, I could do.

601
00:41:12,610 --> 00:41:15,510
Only content, no format or. Nope. Don't worry about them.

602
00:41:15,730 --> 00:41:17,050
I'm going to send it to you a binary.

603
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:19,470
Yeah, more format in the net.

604
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:26,990
Ask you, you're as opposed to me. Okay, so enough on.

605
00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:31,450
Yeah, yes, thanks a lot. Let's go back to our 10.

606
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:38,090
7 p.m. appointment, which we're a little late for now, sorry about that green energy committee.

607
00:41:39,850 --> 00:41:51,270
And the agenda item is to discuss the green energy choice program and what we should be doing with the renewable energy credit revenue in that program.

608
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:59,330
So, Paul, I see you online, did you get the video view powers to unmute and all that?

609
00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:00,770
Yes, you made it.

610
00:42:00,770 --> 00:42:13,770
Can you hear me? Yes, you can. Okay. Also, I made a short slide deck, which I can share or somebody they're composed if you like. I can also do it without that.

611
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:16,570
What's easier?

612
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:19,450
You have the power to share. Go ahead and share.

613
00:42:28,110 --> 00:42:28,350
Okay.

614
00:42:28,350 --> 00:42:35,550
Okay, I didn't need to share my, okay, and I succeeded in sharing a slide deck or am I sharing too much.

615
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:37,330
Oh, I mean, that's at the whole.

616
00:42:37,330 --> 00:42:38,270
The zeroes, three.

617
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:39,110
Slide mode.

618
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:39,750
That's okay.

619
00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:40,150
Okay.

620
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:42,800
All right.

621
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:44,240
What?

622
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,280
It works.

623
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:46,960
It works.

624
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:47,860
All right.

625
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:54,980
So basically, you know, just going to go to the background and then the goals of the sub-date and proposed timeline.

626
00:42:55,940 --> 00:43:04,900
So, this is both about substance and process, maybe even more about process and looking for input from the select board on this.

627
00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:19,200
So, Lincoln Grinn and Detroit is what we call a thing that the state is authorized, which is a community choice aggregation program, which is what, you know, is normally called generally called.

628
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:26,540
which authorize the town to sort of do a bulk buy of electricity that people are defaulted

629
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:28,320
into, but they can opt out of.

630
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,300
And these programs are invented, they're rich, and I think they help save money, and ours

631
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:35,400
has save money.

632
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:42,780
But ours has a purpose beyond that, which is to mediate diverse climate effects of electricity

633
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:51,180
to use some Lincoln, and has aimed to do that by having three tiers of ways to participate

634
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:51,940
in the program.

635
00:43:52,620 --> 00:44:00,880
Each one you add a little bit or more or a lot more of a class one Rex, which I won't

636
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,460
go too deep into explaining what those are, and I think that people here in the face of the

637
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:11,020
Blackboard is aware from private discussions, but class one Rex or part of a system the state

638
00:44:11,020 --> 00:44:16,500
has created to drive the greening of the electrical grid, so to speak.

639
00:44:17,780 --> 00:44:23,200
We think it still works, but not working so all for buying the extra class one racks,

640
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,720
which short, so there's uncertainty as described in our prior conversation, I won't go over

641
00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:32,960
that now and let's be a lot of questions.

642
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:39,740
So that's why although, so we think it has been effective or not sure it will continue to

643
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:44,860
at least for the next several years until certain policy changes push for the Trump administration

644
00:44:44,860 --> 00:44:51,340
and things that government has done, you know, ring out of the system. So, what we'd like to do,

645
00:44:52,220 --> 00:44:58,760
goals of the program of ElfDate is to add flexibility to our state-approved plan right now,

646
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,980
the plan at the state.

647
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:14,620
Okay to approve of. It says the only thing we can use the money from what I'll call the adder for is why I actually class on Rex. Our consultants told us that to satisfy state process improvements, it's relatively simple change.

648
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:21,040
We can just say, or something else, right, we can add an option to the state approved program.

649
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:32,180
How exactly we define that option is up to us, but it might say something like, or other investments, or expenditure is intended to mitigate climate change.

650
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,800
Or mitigate the climate change effects of electricity and liquid.

651
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,140
Or, you know, it's up to us.

652
00:45:40,140 --> 00:45:47,260
So, there is a state requirements for making that amendment to a plan.

653
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:53,360
They're pretty minimal, it's basically give the public notice, and 30 days after you

654
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,880
do comment.

655
00:45:56,820 --> 00:46:04,120
What we would like to do, and discuss to the select board of four, is beyond that minimal

656
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:10,960
process to actually be more robust and seek public input on if we get that flexibility

657
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,340
what should we do with the flexibility, all right. And also eventually the foundation

658
00:46:15,340 --> 00:46:24,160
from vote at town meeting in March, which will probably be necessary to do the kind of change

659
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:34,100
we'd like to make. Specifically, if we're going to keep the idea of some kind of

660
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,720
voluntary in the sense that people always get notice of it and they can opt out of the

661
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:45,740
program if they don't like it. The way it's been used to buy extra class of rights has

662
00:46:45,740 --> 00:46:51,920
not required any kind of town fund or other account. It's just built into the system, which

663
00:46:51,920 --> 00:47:01,340
just happens. You know, if this alternative approach, which would involve collecting the money

664
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:03,800
and keeping it somewhere in some pot,

665
00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:06,040
and then spending it on some good thing,

666
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,420
building a solar field and Lincoln,

667
00:47:08,620 --> 00:47:10,140
or maybe something outside of Lincoln, whatever.

668
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,620
That tease of the question, like,

669
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:13,620
where is the money going to sit,

670
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:15,420
who's going to pay it out and how?

671
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,840
And the proposal on the table,

672
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,400
which this morning, the Greenwich Committee agreed

673
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,780
we support is how meeting vote could authorize the creation

674
00:47:26,780 --> 00:47:35,420
but what I understand is called a, sorry, not a sustainability fund, a

675
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:38,340
stabilization. Thank you.

676
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:41,640
Thank you very much.

677
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Well, whistle turn, dedicated stabilization fund. We might come up with some more fun

678
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,520
public-facing name for it, but I guess that's the technical term. So, so the town

679
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,980
meeting vote, we'd have to come up with a warneracle, that would define the limits what it could

680
00:47:54,980 --> 00:48:05,020
use for, but we would propose to be something like, you know, to, for, for, for projects

681
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:13,940
in, and to mitigate climate change, you can add climate, you know, resilience, you

682
00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:19,000
too, if you want to, that's up to us. You know, each community is mostly focused on mitigation,

683
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,260
but our brief doesn't include, you know, resiliency projects.

684
00:48:24,380 --> 00:48:27,740
So, a town meeting vote of two thirds would be required to set up a stabilization fund.

685
00:48:28,660 --> 00:48:32,780
Then, this is what I have in coach by Jim Hutchinson here in Colleen.

686
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:40,440
To take away the out of the fund, you need a vote at town meeting on a worn article.

687
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,740
It's a budget like item, but I guess it's a wearer called separate from the budget warrant.

688
00:48:44,740 --> 00:48:51,190
And then what people voting on is, okay, we're three years in, the money's impiling up,

689
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:56,820
now you're proposal to spend it, you want to spend on an ex-project town meeting, we approve it.

690
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:03,540
So it wouldn't have to be brought up every year, town meeting, it could be, it wouldn't have to be spent in the same year, it could be.

691
00:49:04,620 --> 00:49:05,940
That's how I understand what it would work.

692
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:14,500
So that's kind of the substance of part, but I think I'll just pause and see if it has questions or comments before I go over.

693
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:18,060
sort of a tensile timeline between now and town meeting.

694
00:49:20,350 --> 00:49:22,050
I think the question so far.

695
00:49:22,490 --> 00:49:45,950
I was just going to say, I think the one other piece I understand correctly is that it would also be possible to earmark some of those funds that could be available like an up to amount immediately for if there's a grant opportunity and we need to match the grant or we need to.

696
00:49:45,950 --> 00:49:49,930
We talked to Colleen about that and she would be comfortable with that.

697
00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:52,050
So we would say,

698
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:57,410
Those are not big amounts. Those are small amounts that we're talking about for a boat.

699
00:49:57,770 --> 00:49:57,870
Right.

700
00:49:58,050 --> 00:50:00,950
Getting rats or doing matching funds for rats.

701
00:50:01,830 --> 00:50:08,490
So, but it would be sort of up to, if you don't spend it, but it would, it could be spent without having to go back to time.

702
00:50:08,670 --> 00:50:08,930
Right.

703
00:50:09,450 --> 00:50:09,550
Yeah.

704
00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:15,170
I like it to how we have an engineering budget that sort of,

705
00:50:15,170 --> 00:50:23,250
generic, and we can decide as the year goes through what exact little engineering projects we need to do with that money.

706
00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:27,550
So this would be a similar kind of thing, out of the stabilization range.

707
00:50:29,710 --> 00:50:44,490
I had a question though, and I wondered if you, in the answer, Tim, we did get a attorney general approval for the revolving fund that we set up for the

708
00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:52,150
solar, the landfills, solar, but the least limit payments. Do we expect to use that?

709
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:57,750
I think that's a great question, Jim. Colin and I talked about this earlier today.

710
00:50:58,250 --> 00:51:05,410
I think we should have a follow-on conversation about that because the same concerns that the

711
00:51:05,410 --> 00:51:16,590
re-direction program raised would apply to that as well. It may, it may make sense to wrap the $30,000

712
00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:21,730
annual lease payment into the stabilization fund as well, the bill out of those funds.

713
00:51:21,890 --> 00:51:26,430
I guess that's what I was leading to as it seems overly complicated to me.

714
00:51:26,430 --> 00:51:33,690
have two different things, different rules. Nobody, you know, five years from now, nobody understands

715
00:51:33,690 --> 00:51:39,690
why we have two or what's the difference between them, the greed. So as long as everybody's

716
00:51:39,690 --> 00:51:46,590
comfortable that the grant, pursuit time can be handled with the stabilization fund, which I think

717
00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:53,030
were new with now. It seems like we do not need that revolving fund, which is a little

718
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:58,150
If he, anyway, yeah, the AG was reluctant to get us a approval for that.

719
00:52:01,420 --> 00:52:04,380
Is that, makes sense to everybody?

720
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:08,340
Paul, did you understand what we were just talking about?

721
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,500
Are you okay with that?

722
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,020
Yes.

723
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:13,200
I do understand it.

724
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:20,300
I guess I don't really, I'm aware of the opinion from the Department of Revenue.

725
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:27,940
I thought it was limiting the use of revolving funds and kind of throwing shade on what we

726
00:52:27,940 --> 00:52:29,940
thought would be the way what we could do.

727
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:49,980
So, is it also not okay to do as we plan with the solar? I'd actually don't know. So, it's a little more borderline and would like this what I would say involved in your right. It's the DR talked about the aggregation funds in particular.

728
00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:57,040
and said that role is not appropriate for aggregation funds in particular. So that's why we know

729
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:03,220
that the right thing to do for the adder for the municipal irrigation program is to do the

730
00:53:03,220 --> 00:53:09,440
stabilization fund. Yeah, but the least payment from the solar is a little different.

731
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:18,580
You maybe could argue a little bit more successfully that that's revenue from a program of ours.

732
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:26,060
Right? And so it's not quite the same. But to me, it's like you're having the tail wag

733
00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:34,400
the dog because the lease revenue is like 30k a year and the ad revenue from the aggregation

734
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:42,860
program is like 300k a year. Right. So I feel like you're getting marginal extra utility

735
00:53:42,860 --> 00:53:45,260
with twice as much complexity.

736
00:53:49,180 --> 00:53:58,120
I guess my personal initial reaction, if I guess you asked for that, I get the downside

737
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,240
of complexity, but it seems like it might be worth it for the additional flexibility.

738
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:12,040
I'm sure how much complexity really matters, I'm not sure, sure, initial reaction.

739
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040
So we're not sure how much flexibility.

740
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,280
Well, if actually it's just 30K that doesn't have to go through

741
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,260
down meeting approval, I guess.

742
00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:22,060
Right.

743
00:54:22,660 --> 00:54:26,840
Although an agenda alluded to a town council, the attorney general

744
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:32,140
through the by-law that allowed that revolving fund, but gave

745
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:35,160
pretty strict caution about it.

746
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,840
It wasn't an unqualified approval and town council

747
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:54,840
anticipated that. And was equally concerned. So I think the safer course of action would be to have the least revenue from the landfill also went to the stabilization fund.

748
00:54:55,580 --> 00:55:05,860
Yeah, I'm reading that memo. I was not thinking that you could use it to like move a brass around the panel. And that was maybe at, you know, I'm being great.

749
00:55:05,860 --> 00:55:27,760
That's stretching it. But it sounded very. Yeah. They might give us a hard time if you use the things for things that are unrelated to the solar project or solar projects. And so I feel like it's the tail wagging the dog. I just feel like if we put it in the stabilization fund, we can definitely use it for anything. Exactly.

750
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:36,430
I hope it's okay. I saw a few people in the waiting room and because I'm

751
00:55:36,430 --> 00:55:40,130
looking to host. I like them as I hope that you're at that.

752
00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:50,510
All right. Any other comments or thoughts about the revolving fund? What do we need to do to

753
00:55:51,150 --> 00:55:58,150
in terms of our actions on this? We need to go to include the proposed stabilization

754
00:55:58,150 --> 00:56:06,370
from vote on next annual town meeting more. Okay and who's going to come up with that? Is that going to be

755
00:56:06,370 --> 00:56:12,930
GC? No. We're going to come up with that. Yeah, I'm happy to share it with Paul. What a lot of that

756
00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:19,090
work that like work is already done. Oh, it is. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'll share it with Paul and did we get in

757
00:56:19,090 --> 00:56:28,070
from GEC. Absolutely, whether they like, in particular the scope of what the fun is authorized to do,

758
00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:34,910
I think they might have some, why don't I have some input on that? Yeah, right, Paul.

759
00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:40,790
Yes, definitely. And that relates to what I was going to offer as my next slide or discussion

760
00:56:41,930 --> 00:56:45,450
and last one. I'm still sharing or thought I should. I need to re-share.

761
00:56:45,450 --> 00:56:47,710
We can see it.

762
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:48,690
Okay, got you.

763
00:56:49,570 --> 00:56:52,090
So we're supposed to stop.

764
00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:58,270
We go bigger.

765
00:56:59,830 --> 00:57:00,390
Sure.

766
00:57:01,470 --> 00:57:01,910
All right.

767
00:57:02,030 --> 00:57:05,450
So the sequence, you know, as I, you know,

768
00:57:05,790 --> 00:57:09,030
it ends at the March town meeting, right?

769
00:57:09,590 --> 00:57:12,530
And maybe it starts with you guys saying tonight, yes,

770
00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:13,930
for on the right track, right?

771
00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:20,110
So the steps we would need to go through is we need to do this minimum 30-day public

772
00:57:20,110 --> 00:57:24,470
going to the comment period. That's required for the state's sake, right?

773
00:57:25,590 --> 00:57:32,110
The state's process is requirements. So if we more than 30 days, so maybe it could be from

774
00:57:32,110 --> 00:57:36,830
you know, in a couple of weeks we get everything drafted and it's like pork and checkers

775
00:57:36,830 --> 00:57:43,690
if they want or not, we could want it to mid November if we wanted to, based on discussion

776
00:57:43,690 --> 00:57:49,790
this morning, including input from Jennifer, it would include not only are you okay with

777
00:57:49,790 --> 00:57:56,750
making this slight broadening in the state-of-proof plan, but also what do citizens think

778
00:57:56,750 --> 00:58:02,570
about these scoping questions, you know, should the investments be limited to municipal buildings

779
00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:09,930
or limited to infrastructure in Lincoln or infrastructure in mass or whatever, we also have

780
00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:15,750
discretion to invite inputs through, not only were in submissions, but, like, they will come to GEC meeting.

781
00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:21,950
Maybe we'll have us extra GEC meeting at a, you know, evening time for people that can't come to the E30.

782
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:27,630
You know, any other process that the select board would like, you know, we can add in, right?

783
00:58:28,310 --> 00:58:37,790
Then we could report the select board after that six or eight weeks or whatever we make it on the comments we receive and our recommendations if any.

784
00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:46,410
If you authorize the form of the worn article in say January, then once we had that down,

785
00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:51,670
including how much specific we want to include on the planned nature of the investments,

786
00:58:52,610 --> 00:58:58,010
then we could do some public awareness leading up the town meeting February March,

787
00:58:58,510 --> 00:59:03,370
so people feel ready to vote on a town meeting. That's a possible process.

788
00:59:04,780 --> 00:59:06,880
That sounds pretty good to me, Paul.

789
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:16,780
I wonder about the interaction with our upcoming state of the town and the special town meeting on October 24th.

790
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:33,040
I wonder if you want to use that meeting as a way of announcing something about this process or maybe kicking off the public comment period starting.

791
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,440
and that day or the next week after that.

792
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,960
Can you answer the question?

793
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:41,720
Is this a ball?

794
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:43,240
Are you guys going to be in the lobby?

795
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,520
Did you think?

796
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:53,420
I'm a role at, well, to ask him to respond to him first.

797
00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:56,800
Yeah, I mean, I haven't done the math on the calendar yet.

798
00:59:57,220 --> 00:59:59,980
It seems like if we wanted to wait till that October.

799
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,680
The meeting to kick this off. I would guess we could get all this done between then and town meeting. And I guess that might have the advantage of how people would only be asked to think about one thing at a time, right?

800
01:00:11,780 --> 01:00:14,940
So to speak, you know, vote on the library thing and then start the new thing.

801
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:20,600
You were also giving you time to get the materials ready for doing that process, right?

802
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,240
Yeah, you're going to say something. It'll take you some time to do that.

803
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:34,260
Yes, I mean, if we wanted to get it going sooner, in which case the commentary would not be overlapping with the special town meeting.

804
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:40,860
And especially on eating, we just like remember, you still have two more weeks to comment, or four more weeks or whatever, right?

805
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:44,220
That would be another way to do it.

806
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:47,600
And how much time do we need to put them together?

807
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:56,260
It's certainly more time as always easier, I think we could do it in a couple weeks if we want to get going sooner.

808
01:00:57,620 --> 01:00:58,920
So, Jen, can I get clarification?

809
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:06,000
Is GEC envisioning then two potential warm articles in March 1?

810
01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:12,000
Will is that a non-vinding kind of owner whether to make the wreck change?

811
01:01:13,460 --> 01:01:15,960
Or are we delaying that decision until March?

812
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,480
I don't know, maybe.

813
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:18,540
I don't know.

814
01:01:18,620 --> 01:01:20,960
I think I can clarify that.

815
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Thank you.

816
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,140
I know I thought this through, but we need to tell meaning to establish this stabilization fund.

817
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:30,760
Right?

818
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,500
Just the stabilization.

819
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,460
Thank you.

820
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:37,400
That'd be the only war-dark I think we would need at that time meeting.

821
01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:45,880
This select board would be free well before an independent panel meeting to make the sort of minor

822
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,540
technical change in the state-to-proof plan, which is says, we're

823
01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:54,440
used to add it by class on RECS and maybe other stuff.

824
01:01:55,180 --> 01:02:00,120
That's where the plan with state-to-require process requirements is

825
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,120
a separate and less-privileged detail than complying with our own process

826
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:05,560
requirements.

827
01:02:07,460 --> 01:02:14,400
But we should, this like word, should approve the change to the program, well

828
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:20,440
four-town meeting or else the, yeah, same location fund doesn't make sense, right? Exactly. Exactly.

829
01:02:20,660 --> 01:02:27,360
So you could prove that, that's where I had this, you know, November December and that,

830
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,540
it could be even sooner, right? Yeah. So we could have it in our, maybe in our December meeting,

831
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:39,080
we could have proved the change to the program of public, public comments were supportive of it.

832
01:02:39,080 --> 01:03:08,600
So we could add our next meeting, which I know we're trying to keep the lighter, but I think it would simply be about to say yes, open the, open the comment period and send out the slainer that it was in the right way, which, which, meaning are you thinking we would open it, absolutely eight to twenty eight just to say is and then it is talking about they're running through like mid november.

833
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,680
So doing a longer than a 30K.

834
01:03:10,780 --> 01:03:12,160
Oh, you're allowed to be more than 30.

835
01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:14,400
I think you did this 30 days.

836
01:03:15,820 --> 01:03:17,960
Because I would request it

837
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,100
to have at least two weeks passed.

838
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,360
Stayed on sound eating, sure.

839
01:03:24,380 --> 01:03:26,940
But I think some people will

840
01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:29,960
well cure about it until they come to the state of the town

841
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:30,600
meeting.

842
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:31,420
Right.

843
01:03:32,060 --> 01:03:34,480
But I think if I remember correctly,

844
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:43,420
fall to do the 30-day comment period. We send a letter out to everybody, which I think we can get

845
01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:49,880
some help paying for, and remember incorrectly, to all residents the way we do whenever there's a

846
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,300
change to this program.

847
01:03:54,640 --> 01:04:00,120
It's a different letter, but we would put this line or, you know, we could

848
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,560
at least piggyback by saving some postage you're putting an explainer in with that other.

849
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:07,260
Right.

850
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:08,400
Yep.

851
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,100
The formal notice.

852
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:09,340
Yep.

853
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,580
Do we have any ability for residents to provide comments online?

854
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:21,160
Is there a place on the website where folks wanted to provide a comment to you directly

855
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,520
after reading it in the mail?

856
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:32,130
I don't know if we already have a way to use the GC website or the town website.

857
01:04:33,090 --> 01:04:43,130
But I mean, I think the minimum would be sending the email to this address and we can add as many additional modes as we feel like coming up with.

858
01:04:45,730 --> 01:04:46,310
Great.

859
01:04:47,610 --> 01:04:47,770
Okay.

860
01:04:47,770 --> 01:04:47,850
Nice.

861
01:04:48,050 --> 01:04:57,990
Did we just agree to add a couple minutes to our state of the town for a green energy to introduce this and the important committee update?

862
01:05:00,050 --> 01:05:06,030
Well, that's why earlier, I said, I think it's more like, so if we've started the process,

863
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:11,650
I was going to have been information out to the public and various codes of communication

864
01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:16,610
and fit this online period is going on. I think it's, well, what I suggest it's

865
01:05:16,610 --> 01:05:21,810
smarting because I know time to cite is that one of us in whether it's the opening or closing remarks.

866
01:05:21,950 --> 01:05:23,510
Just mention your mind. Yeah, people.

867
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:29,530
Okay. Yeah, what's not getting into a presentation? What's your remind people of it? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think of it.

868
01:05:30,010 --> 01:05:35,890
Yeah. Do you see us that have a table outside? That would be fantastic. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

869
01:05:36,050 --> 01:05:41,810
Yeah. Yeah. That was great. Right. Paul, if you might want to stop sharing that.

870
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:48,750
But I think that. Yeah. The fact that we have the townwide mailer really helps. Yes.

871
01:05:48,750 --> 01:05:55,170
It was really we're talking about getting message out and that's going to get the message out to everybody who's part of the program.

872
01:05:55,570 --> 01:05:59,770
Did you get any feedback on the explainer when you pushed that out to Lincoln top a few weeks ago?

873
01:06:00,930 --> 01:06:02,030
Only a few.

874
01:06:02,270 --> 01:06:03,030
Oh, here we go.

875
01:06:03,150 --> 01:06:03,670
Stop sharing.

876
01:06:04,130 --> 01:06:05,470
There's a couple of finding that.

877
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:12,110
Um, I think I got two maybe three emails.

878
01:06:12,310 --> 01:06:12,730
Yeah.

879
01:06:12,730 --> 01:06:13,570
Which I respond.

880
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:15,310
Not much response.

881
01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:16,130
Yeah.

882
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:17,170
Okay.

883
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:19,860
Great.

884
01:06:19,860 --> 01:06:27,540
So, we should do about to add the article to the warrant, right?

885
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:33,040
I move that we add an article in March.

886
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,480
Add a word article in March for the purpose of creating a stabilization.

887
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,140
Thank you.

888
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,280
I'll do that.

889
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:48,180
Can you further discover what you're perfecting you with so good?

890
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,400
You just a check.

891
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:54,460
Go ahead.

892
01:06:55,220 --> 01:06:56,540
You're going to vote on that.

893
01:06:57,020 --> 01:06:57,560
It's one of Clark.

894
01:06:57,860 --> 01:06:57,920
Yes.

895
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,480
So if I saw something.

896
01:06:59,740 --> 01:07:00,600
Father, I lost.

897
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,660
I should survive.

898
01:07:01,980 --> 01:07:02,620
Go ahead, Paul.

899
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,340
What's your.

900
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,060
Thanks.

901
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:06,780
So September 28th, like board meeting,

902
01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:11,700
it sounds like you probably would like to have the language for the public

903
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:15,540
notice ready to be to approve that?

904
01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:17,600
Yes.

905
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,920
I'd like to open the public comment.

906
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,340
Yes.

907
01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:21,780
Right.

908
01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:23,260
All right.

909
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,100
We'll link for that.

910
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,200
Thank you.

911
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,980
And then the information probably to piggy about whether we

912
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,100
Get some help with the mailing of that. Right.

913
01:07:35,860 --> 01:07:36,220
Right.

914
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:48,180
We also have the October 5th Info session. Would that be acceptable or maybe even better

915
01:07:48,180 --> 01:07:55,930
place to do this? Yeah, I don't want to. Yeah, I think that 20% will definitely be to say

916
01:07:57,070 --> 01:08:06,580
Here's the watch, okay, not a one. Okay, sounds good. Any other questions or comments,

917
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:12,240
ball? That's for me. Thank you for the guidance. Yep. Thank you for,

918
01:08:12,980 --> 01:08:17,500
yeah, thank you. I'm going to say the discussion and you're work on this. Sure. I will drop

919
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:26,980
and go to the meeting. Okay, thanks. All right, so we are back to our discussion section

920
01:08:26,980 --> 01:08:33,980
and we did stay in the town. So I guess we're ready for a library at HVAC update.

921
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:43,400
Tim, do you want to leave us on that? Sure. So Dan and Beth, Colleen,

922
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:53,760
as you know, we're scrambling all the holiday weekends to try to get final data, cost comparisons,

923
01:08:55,100 --> 01:09:00,820
energy and emissions data as was requested by the various

924
01:09:00,820 --> 01:09:09,040
boards at the prior meeting that memo went out yesterday and you

925
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:16,800
all should have received copies of that and at a high level the the big

926
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:23,260
takeaways are the based on this analysis the cost the anticipated cost

927
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:37,460
The ground source system replacement is almost exactly the same as the cost of the more conventional replacement and to be careful.

928
01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:48,700
The war article that we talked about for the good invention is the replacement only of the boiler estimated at 330,000.

929
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:55,600
We are, that's not the comparison that I'm referring to here. The full system replacement

930
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:04,020
conventional with a high efficiency boiler is, I'm going to look for these costs here.

931
01:10:04,060 --> 01:10:14,260
Make sure I'm holding them directly. The round source total project costs is estimated at 6.25 million now

932
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:26,620
before incentives and the more conventional system replacement, the net cross of that is

933
01:10:26,620 --> 01:10:39,440
Well, 3.7 net for the ground source and its 3.67 for the convention, the net town cost.

934
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:45,960
So those are within handling distance of one another.

935
01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:55,880
The bigger challenge is that the total project cost has gone up by $1.2 million since the estimates were

936
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:21,340
created in January. And if you recall the CPC and the Finance Committee came together at that time and agreed on a funding plan with CPC agreeing to fund the project exclusively from CPC revenue with a CPC

937
01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:30,460
stock with stabilization phones in the event that the tax credits and the other incentive

938
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:34,860
zeal of grants came in less than anticipating.

939
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:45,600
So the big challenge at this point is really to the CPC and to finance committee to figure

940
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,900
out how best to fund that $1.2 million.

941
01:11:48,900 --> 01:12:00,720
So, again, assuming it seemed that there was a pretty strong consensus to present the ground source as the preferred option,

942
01:12:01,580 --> 01:12:06,040
assuming that the costs were relatively equal to the two projects.

943
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:16,200
Given my takeaway was given the kind of one-time nature of the potential incentive, the tax incentives and ramps,

944
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,960
the scene like an opportunity that might not come around again.

945
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,120
So as long as those two costs will be relatively equal.

946
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,580
Can I jump in there a tick for a second, Tim?

947
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,380
I think that's all correct.

948
01:12:29,540 --> 01:12:31,860
And thank you for that recap.

949
01:12:32,940 --> 01:12:38,580
I do feel like we've given the four relevant boards

950
01:12:38,580 --> 01:12:42,700
different information each time we've issued a memo on.

951
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:49,640
And this is our best effort to get all the facts right into be as diligent as possible in all the details.

952
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:57,240
So I love all this work and I applaud Dan and Beth and you on and Colleen on all that work.

953
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:07,440
But I feel like we need to give those committees time to ask questions about this memo before we start making big conclusions out of it.

954
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:10,900
even the conclusion that their ground source

955
01:13:10,900 --> 01:13:13,340
and conventional or similar costs,

956
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:17,580
I think it's premature to say that that strongly, honestly,

957
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:20,380
because we haven't even given people a chance

958
01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:22,140
to ask questions about this memo.

959
01:13:22,780 --> 01:13:24,400
People just got it yesterday.

960
01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:30,600
We're going to talk about this in the multi board meeting

961
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,660
on the 28th, and I would be using the time period

962
01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:36,660
before then to try to gather questions

963
01:13:36,660 --> 01:13:42,920
for people about what their reactions are to this memo and what questions they have about the

964
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:43,140
memo.

965
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:43,660
Absolutely.

966
01:13:43,780 --> 01:13:45,040
Jim, that's in process.

967
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:52,360
So we are working with call and with Eric, making sure that they have had the chance to share

968
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,480
the memo with their colleagues and to open dialogue.

969
01:13:56,300 --> 01:14:02,620
And Colleen has already started kind of what if cases with both call and

970
01:14:02,620 --> 01:14:08,040
for them to share next week. I think as you know, a finance committee is reading first.

971
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:14,380
Did you say that you're talking about public last year, not Paul Shore? Yes. Can we also get the

972
01:14:14,380 --> 01:14:21,440
same kind of input from GEC? Of course, maybe they're not going to be quite as tuned in on the finance

973
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:31,220
aspects of it, but they might very well have questions about the energy and sustainability trade-offs

974
01:14:31,220 --> 01:14:36,360
short or benefits in Japanese. We'll make sure we don't have those. I just want to make sure

975
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:45,440
everybody has a chance to ask questions and you know get any concerns or questions out there

976
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:51,460
before we start jumping to you know what we need to say. Yeah, what do we do with this? Yeah,

977
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:59,300
and Jim, I'm going to be terrible and your reaction reminds me of the need to be careful.

978
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,700
We all know what a moving target this has been to your point every time we update these numbers.

979
01:15:07,780 --> 01:15:14,540
Some of the assumptions have changed. And none of us at a staff level would presume any expertise.

980
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,860
So we're hostage to, you know, what we're getting from the consultants.

981
01:15:19,180 --> 01:15:25,240
And I think everybody involved, though, feels that every time we've refined the numbers,

982
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:37,360
They've got the tighter and tighter, and I think as you know, just one illustration, we had a lot of concerns about the investment tax credit estimates six months ago, even a year ago.

983
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:48,240
And that's an area that would feel much more confident, just a little straight. So each time we're at it, we think that it's, you know, the analysis is getting tighter.

984
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:54,320
But as you all have said, in every public meeting, we're on the coming edge on this project.

985
01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:00,680
We're not aware of another community, but was completely navigated this process, you know.

986
01:16:01,780 --> 01:16:09,460
So, I share your concern and want to make sure that the committees have enough time to, enough time to react.

987
01:16:09,820 --> 01:16:17,400
Again, let me rephrase if the Bores and committees conclude that the assumptions are reasonable.

988
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:46,440
at this point. Then the conclusion is that the two are within handling. Thank you. And I think that's, that's, that's, that's not, they have it. Yeah. Yeah. And so again, high high level, kind of the three buckets that we've been thinking about the service are the two costs, life cycle costs relatively equal. If they are, then how do we solve the $1.2 million cost.

989
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:53,760
cost escalation and that consideration is going to go to CPC and to finance

990
01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:01,020
human and at 1.2 million I don't want to speak for CPC but I think they're

991
01:17:01,020 --> 01:17:07,100
going to have to take a careful look about their ability to finance that entire

992
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:11,720
Delta and there may be some conversation with finance committee about free

993
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,880
hash or stabilization fund or something else.

994
01:17:14,980 --> 01:17:16,420
So that's second consideration.

995
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,240
And then the third consideration that you all

996
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,660
asked for was a careful, the best analysis

997
01:17:22,660 --> 01:17:25,980
that the consultants could come up with for energy

998
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:30,220
consumption, comparison, and emissions data.

999
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:35,120
And Jim, I guess I would turn to you

1000
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,320
to maybe summarize the high takeaway.

1001
01:17:38,320 --> 01:18:00,940
Sure, I think that the summary of the electrical, the energy use, the simplest things to say are first that both of the proposed systems, the geothermal and the commercial one are a little bit more efficient than the current system.

1002
01:18:00,940 --> 01:18:03,420
I think that's fair to say.

1003
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:08,720
I think that the balance of what kind of energy used is different.

1004
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,800
The geothermal is going to be completely electric.

1005
01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:18,180
And so it's electric uses actually a little bit higher than the current system

1006
01:18:18,180 --> 01:18:21,980
or the conventional solution.

1007
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,940
But it uses zero fossil fuels.

1008
01:18:29,540 --> 01:18:36,900
natural gas in particular, which the conventional system does use.

1009
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:42,040
The conventional system solution would use a little bit less than the current system does,

1010
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,280
because it would be a newer, more efficient unit.

1011
01:18:45,460 --> 01:18:49,580
But it would still be using a, you know, significant amount of that.

1012
01:18:49,740 --> 01:18:55,940
So the way the numbers work, and this is one area where I actually want to clarify something with Dan,

1013
01:18:57,260 --> 01:19:02,880
There's not going to be a huge cost savings to operate any of these systems, unfortunately.

1014
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:11,380
If there is one, just from straight operating costs, it's on the order of $2 or $3,000 a year.

1015
01:19:12,020 --> 01:19:24,660
So, minor in comparison to the project cost, and then you get into the question of the operating and maintenance costs of the systems.

1016
01:19:25,300 --> 01:19:32,560
And there was another one in there that I wanted to ask questions about, which is the verification loss.

1017
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:41,920
And that one, I'm a little bit less sure on, but when you add those two together, you get a increase over the current operating cost.

1018
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:51,660
Not a decrease. And again, so this memo was so new that I kind of would like to just have a conversation with them.

1019
01:19:51,660 --> 01:19:56,680
And you, I guess, tomorrow or sometime, short.

1020
01:19:57,620 --> 01:20:01,660
Because to me, don't we have a, you know,

1021
01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:05,540
so the poverty and cost of the current program or the current system?

1022
01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:16,020
And should we be talking about the Delta from that rather than acting like there's no cost now when you may have costs for the new system?

1023
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:21,020
So I feel like maybe after a little bit of tweaking

1024
01:20:21,020 --> 01:20:23,720
of what we say about that, we might be back to

1025
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,000
they're not being a huge foster for us.

1026
01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:29,040
And we give you the two, but I'm a little unsure

1027
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,980
about whether there really is an increase

1028
01:20:30,980 --> 01:20:32,740
in operating costs for a new system.

1029
01:20:33,140 --> 01:20:35,320
So I'm not sure I'd believe that's true.

1030
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,140
So anyway, just say it more quickly,

1031
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,980
energy utilization is a little bit better for both of them

1032
01:20:43,980 --> 01:20:47,220
with it definitely being greener for the geothermal.

1033
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,200
And it certainly will have lower carbon emissions

1034
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,780
as a result of not using any fossil fuels.

1035
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,640
So that I think, for going after sustainability,

1036
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,260
that's the obvious win.

1037
01:21:00,540 --> 01:21:03,240
On the fine-inside, operating costside,

1038
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,320
not so clear that there's any big numbers there,

1039
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,380
that should affect our thinking about it.

1040
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:17,920
I can imagine one question coming up and I'm not sure I know the answer, but I imagine

1041
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:28,480
as a town we have a some sort of contract for purchasing national natural gas that is locked

1042
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:31,880
in for how long given what's happening in the world at the moment.

1043
01:21:32,220 --> 01:21:38,160
I don't recall China for off the top, but I can get that from Brandon, yeah, I don't know about

1044
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:46,320
national bass, either, but I know that for our electric usage, it was, we were doing it one

1045
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:52,200
or two years at a time. So it's not a huge, you know, that's on the order of how long it's going

1046
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,840
to take us to procure and install all this stuff. Right. So I'm just thinking that we are in an

1047
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:06,840
environment where costs are volatile. Yeah. And just how immediate that is, whether it's, you know,

1048
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,220
whether we're locked into something for the next five years

1049
01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:15,900
or whether it's, oh, by the way, let's see what a cost to January.

1050
01:22:17,220 --> 01:22:17,440
Right.

1051
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:21,520
This might be a question that pops up for juggle

1052
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,840
as that are reading the news and wondering what's our cost?

1053
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,760
And whether, I mean, our personal balls are,

1054
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:46,420
Good. About the cost of fuels and electricity. Well, my, my feeling is, we might need to tweak the message that we have a little bit, but basically it's going to be that operatic costs is not a big win or so.

1055
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,060
Not a big consideration.

1056
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,780
I feel like when we go through this to it and we're getting this ready for the public.

1057
01:22:51,980 --> 01:22:59,060
There's a, this is such inside baseball now. We've been doing this for so long. We have to make sure that we

1058
01:22:59,060 --> 01:23:00,200
a practical support.

1059
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,500
A simpler message, a simpler chart about the different types of

1060
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,320
costs that is different because when you look at it, when they look at

1061
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,080
the loan article, and we mentioned it at the beginning, they're looking at

1062
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:14,820
330 versus what we said was 6.25 before incentives.

1063
01:23:15,700 --> 01:23:22,120
And so, explained to folks that the cost that they're actually going to see is

1064
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,900
plus air handling universe could be an extra $3 million.

1065
01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:28,120
But residents might question, how is that going to be $3 million?

1066
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,460
So we have to be ready to answer that as well.

1067
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,100
How did we get from 330 to 3.67?

1068
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:36,740
Yeah.

1069
01:23:36,740 --> 01:23:37,560
The wrong question.

1070
01:23:38,220 --> 01:23:42,160
Another question I think they're going to be asking, and we talked about that the fine and

1071
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:47,200
multi-word meeting was about the incentives, and all the list of incentives, a likely

1072
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:52,300
to go to the risk of incentives, because there's a lot of millions of dollars in those incentives

1073
01:23:52,300 --> 01:23:54,580
that we may or may not attain.

1074
01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:58,060
Obviously, we know we have a million dollars in the rest of my fee, you know,

1075
01:23:58,060 --> 01:24:00,960
they'd likely likely, I mean, a vet green black, and bite back to that.

1076
01:24:01,300 --> 01:24:03,880
But we have to, residents going to want to know,

1077
01:24:04,140 --> 01:24:05,220
look at the miserable levels of those.

1078
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:11,540
And then, by the last thought is time on, time on, AC needs.

1079
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:16,340
If folks do want to kick the can, they are just happy with 330,

1080
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:17,780
and they'd like to go that route.

1081
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:19,660
We might be just talking of you.

1082
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,040
You know what I mean? We're not talking the fires or 10.

1083
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,580
We know the system's equal, you know.

1084
01:24:24,780 --> 01:24:25,660
And it's equal, you know.

1085
01:24:25,660 --> 01:24:31,020
So we just have to make sure, again, the messaging around 330 in kind of how it's a

1086
01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:36,460
misnomer, currently fine if residents want to go that route, but there is a, the extra

1087
01:24:36,460 --> 01:24:38,500
cost is coming possibly the next year.

1088
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,560
But it was so the point thing is we got a really thoughtful about messaging this because we

1089
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:48,960
have been in this for so long, and it makes sense to us, and residents might be coming in

1090
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,200
no background on this way.

1091
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:51,220
So this is expensive.

1092
01:24:51,220 --> 01:24:56,400
It's a totally green. One of the things that I was trying to do with the current memo was

1093
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:01,900
hold it until we could clarify and eliminate some of the complexity. Yeah. So we have these

1094
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:12,680
adders roughly 500 pay worth of adders for upgrading the electrical to the library. And we're going to

1095
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:19,720
know whether we actually need that or not in the next week or two. Unfortunately, you really need

1096
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:24,440
to get this memo out. So we went out with this extra number added on there, even though we're

1097
01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:30,440
not sure we're going to need it. So that's another way that we need to start trimming this down

1098
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:39,300
to the details that we're actually going to be proposing in October. And on the upgrade side,

1099
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:46,240
I have a question maybe you know the answer to Tim. I don't quite understand why we need

1100
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:53,460
electrical embrace for the conventional approach. Because the conventional approach

1101
01:25:53,460 --> 01:26:00,340
uses less electricity than the current and it means system does. So why would

1102
01:26:00,340 --> 01:26:05,820
by lowering the electrical demand, why would we need to upgrade the electrical system?

1103
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,300
Yeah, no, good at that. Good question, Jim.

1104
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:14,400
I assume the answer is that what's out there on the pole and the connection to the building

1105
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:21,220
is just in desperate need about they didn't. So we're going to be updating even if we didn't

1106
01:26:21,220 --> 01:26:28,000
replace the system. Okay, if that's true, I could understand that, but I didn't get that feeling

1107
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:34,680
from a list. If the list included a bigger transformer, and I'm like, why do we need a bigger transformer

1108
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:40,300
if we're using less electricity? Right, right, less this one is undersized. Exactly, maybe.

1109
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:48,660
Right, but I would, you know, I would like a little more technical description of what those things are needed.

1110
01:26:49,380 --> 01:26:53,200
If they end up being needed, maybe one of the sudden that they're not needed.

1111
01:26:54,500 --> 01:26:58,320
To, uh, to, after we finish the testing on the internet, but I mean,

1112
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:05,640
to Ken's point and thinking ahead to sort of how you, you know, you have all of us who learn differently in the audience.

1113
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:19,460
You know, is there that visual that sort of takes the three and it's like, you know, the green box and the red box like this solution or you know, this proposal does this does this does this doesn't do this doesn't do this.

1114
01:27:19,540 --> 01:27:27,640
Yes, it takes you kind of for all three, you know, the ADA upgrades, you know, whatever whatever those buckets are, but something that sort of less.

1115
01:27:29,460 --> 01:27:41,440
So I'm going to use that as an opportunity to take your input on presentation, that's where I said we're at the meeting.

1116
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:57,500
I know I'm presenting, but if you have a way of, for a particular way for that, I think, well, I'm just trying to think if there's some or just run something by that, you know, is it sort of quick to that just visually.

1117
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:05,400
And then you can get all the back up and follow all the links and look into the spreadsheets.

1118
01:28:05,660 --> 01:28:08,680
I'm thinking about the things about the newsletter going out.

1119
01:28:08,900 --> 01:28:10,500
Like how do you sort of succinctly?

1120
01:28:11,540 --> 01:28:11,740
Right.

1121
01:28:11,940 --> 01:28:15,480
So if I'm going to be thinking about that when I do the newsletter right up.

1122
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:20,420
And I think you and I should work together on what's the best way to present that information.

1123
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,060
Because I like starting with all the details and then whittling it down.

1124
01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:33,300
But I think that might be helpful to you so that you can pick and choose what you think is appropriate.

1125
01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:43,760
But I think that we can try to be creative on having a fresh approach to presenting it.

1126
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:50,280
Not an approach that's due to us being having been doing this for five years now.

1127
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:56,900
It just sort of, I tend to think of that sort of,

1128
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,440
what's the big picture overall takeaway

1129
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:01,080
and then dive into the details?

1130
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:02,600
Right now.

1131
01:29:03,660 --> 01:29:06,400
Well, for instance, the very high level

1132
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,860
of showing the picture of the decrepit equipment

1133
01:29:08,860 --> 01:29:11,700
and we have to do something about it, right?

1134
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,740
Just like we did with the water maze,

1135
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,740
show the picture of the pipe with, you know,

1136
01:29:17,740 --> 01:29:18,900
there's 90 hole in the middle.

1137
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:20,200
Yeah.

1138
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:27,560
I think also, we forget, or we understand the logic between the time 330 versus the geothermal,

1139
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,960
but they might say, why are we doing apples to apples?

1140
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:33,540
Why are we doing apples to oranges?

1141
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,840
Why are we going to come back in a year's time for years time and providing a little bit

1142
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:38,500
of that information?

1143
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:43,200
But this is, we started with just replacing the boiler, so we're giving you that option.

1144
01:29:43,420 --> 01:29:47,260
Because I bet residents are going to, why, why am I looking at 330, you're just, it's

1145
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:53,700
you're just going to be asking you for an additional money later on. So that explanation I think should come in this as well.

1146
01:29:54,340 --> 01:29:57,220
It's not in this question for residents.

1147
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,340
So we think it's logical, but it needs to have heat through the winter, you know, hand.

1148
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:14,880
Yeah, I think there was a time critical nature to the heating robust that's not really true for the AC request, but you're kind of right.

1149
01:30:15,140 --> 01:30:22,000
I mean, initially I would, I would have said, oh, we just didn't flesh out the conventional one enough,

1150
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:27,660
be presenting the full apples to apples version of it. But at this point, it's kind of half.

1151
01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:36,680
You could use some of the three options. We kind of have. And why did we decide to present

1152
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:45,680
the 330 simple step instead of doing the full apples to apples to mention a thing? I think we did that

1153
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:52,960
back in March because we weren't ready for the fall on apples to apples to

1154
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:00,560
conventional system since that time. I want to finish that time now, but we've got

1155
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:05,640
pretty accurate on both sides of the equation because we wanted it to be accurate.

1156
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:12,720
I don't know, people feel about that. I feel like I guess I would

1157
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:21,690
way I would say it is, I think the 330 option is going to appeal to some voters we think

1158
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:30,040
$6 million for an HPA system is too damn much and they want to kick the can just so that they

1159
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:38,200
force us to try harder to re-evaluate scope and all that. So I think it's probably wise for us to

1160
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:45,280
continued to do and I mean provide that outlet for the new new new new just say I'll know that's too much

1161
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:51,300
go back to the drawing board and come up with something else yeah then I think the rationale and then the

1162
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:59,640
330 gets the library through the winter through you know for the winter and I think the rationale

1163
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:05,240
I'm not present the three although somebody could stand up and say you know I moved the week

1164
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:15,380
Scrap all this and do the equally conventional one, is that because there's so close in price.

1165
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,020
With incentives, with incentives, net price.

1166
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:20,680
Sure, sure.

1167
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:28,940
That we want the geothermal because it also achieves other town goals of sustainability.

1168
01:32:28,940 --> 01:32:38,280
And I think it also requires less equipment all over the building as well, the historic building, if I remember correctly.

1169
01:32:38,540 --> 01:32:39,260
That's correct.

1170
01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:48,240
Although, you know, the conventional one there going, I mean, the proposal was for something that's pretty unopposed.

1171
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,400
That the library will need to do.

1172
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,860
Maybe I'm thinking of the air source.

1173
01:32:52,860 --> 01:32:53,660
The air source.

1174
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,560
That was going to put things all up.

1175
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,960
That was going to fuck wall units and stuff that the library was not really thrilled about.

1176
01:33:01,460 --> 01:33:05,500
I mean, that's a, I don't know, that stands up.

1177
01:33:06,660 --> 01:33:08,740
But I, that sort of feels like look the rationale.

1178
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,840
It's that there were a big price difference for, you know,

1179
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:17,780
net 2 million for conventional and 3.7 for geothermal.

1180
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,360
We probably would come back and say,

1181
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:41,720
You know, which of these three, you know, because then you aren't paying a premium for also trying to tackle our climate goals with them netting out and with with having really kicked the tires on it has seemed to indicate that it really is netting out very close.

1182
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:47,560
you know it's sort of if different that's how very close yeah after for the

1183
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,920
scrutiny if after for the scrutiny and that's how very close the state and

1184
01:33:51,920 --> 01:34:01,340
all of you yeah yeah that's a ballpark that assuming that they are they're

1185
01:34:01,340 --> 01:34:07,540
really that close that the geothermal also isn't keeping what but with what we

1186
01:34:07,540 --> 01:34:12,600
that demanded of the schools of the community sector, you know, I mean, that's yeah.

1187
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,580
That's probably where that's totally why we went down this path first.

1188
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:16,520
Right. Yeah.

1189
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:16,920
Yeah.

1190
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:21,000
But these meet, we did talk about this and this is, we talked about this in prior meetings.

1191
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:29,740
In terms of presentations at state of the town, but the special town meeting, ensuring that there is a slide for

1192
01:34:29,740 --> 01:34:36,460
there be from the, I guess from the finance committee about upcoming capital projects and their costs.

1193
01:34:36,460 --> 01:34:42,640
there are significant capital projects coming down the road.

1194
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,540
I think that's a requirement whenever we do a large capital

1195
01:34:46,540 --> 01:34:47,040
project.

1196
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,040
That's for mining residents.

1197
01:34:50,660 --> 01:34:51,840
That's coming up, sir.

1198
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,660
And we need to make sure that's updated for whatever everything

1199
01:34:56,660 --> 01:34:59,400
the latest road estimate.

1200
01:34:59,980 --> 01:35:01,940
All fuel roll and the number one.

1201
01:35:02,140 --> 01:35:08,920
Because that's the first one and I think people are actually pretty eager for us to be doing that work.

1202
01:35:08,940 --> 01:35:09,920
No doubt.

1203
01:35:12,260 --> 01:35:12,900
Okay.

1204
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:20,240
Any other comments on library, HVAC update, we're ready to move on.

1205
01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:22,430
Okay.

1206
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:26,590
Next thing on our agenda is social media policy.

1207
01:35:28,350 --> 01:35:29,190
What do you want to summarize?

1208
01:35:29,190 --> 01:35:36,330
what are we on with that? I'm shortgened. So I checked in with Peggy and we haven't received any

1209
01:35:36,330 --> 01:35:42,430
additional comments. We had said a deadline, which has come and gone. We have some early

1210
01:35:42,430 --> 01:35:50,090
comments from Janicellon and there was one other, I think, said a comment. So those were the

1211
01:35:50,090 --> 01:35:56,030
beginning of the summer. Yeah, yeah. Those are now reflected in the draft that has your packet.

1212
01:35:57,330 --> 01:36:05,850
So at this point, I think it's any final comments from the board and a vote on whether or not we're going to end up.

1213
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:16,830
And now to say that some of the additions to this were in response to comments about giving their guidance.

1214
01:36:17,930 --> 01:36:27,370
It's fine to have a policy that says like, hey, do the right thing, but that doesn't really help people when they're based with specific situations.

1215
01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:31,830
I know what I look at a policy. I want to know, is the thing I'm about to do.

1216
01:36:32,750 --> 01:36:34,210
It's following the policy around.

1217
01:36:35,130 --> 01:36:38,810
So it does make this one a little warm.

1218
01:36:40,190 --> 01:36:44,310
And on the other hand, boy, there's some tricky waters navigate with all of this.

1219
01:36:44,310 --> 01:37:00,230
I mean, you said so that I pulled from, I searched for some more towns, examples and I think what I like about the bookline language that I've

1220
01:37:00,230 --> 01:37:07,410
Shane mostly borrowed. Thank you, Urban. Was it it was trying if it was trying to offer

1221
01:37:10,150 --> 01:37:21,090
structure and sort of appeal to common sense. Yeah. Yeah, the only thing I noticed, I like all that.

1222
01:37:21,150 --> 01:37:27,870
The only thing I noticed is that I did have the comment last meeting or last reading about being more clear

1223
01:37:27,870 --> 01:37:28,470
out.

1224
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:39,840
A committee member who's authorized to post, doesn't need to get repeat approval to do that for

1225
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:52,700
previously deliberated content. And if I wondered if you had any words, nothing or

1226
01:37:52,700 --> 01:37:56,000
a tweet to that cause?

1227
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,940
Is it not captured in here?

1228
01:37:58,220 --> 01:37:58,940
It's far.

1229
01:37:59,060 --> 01:38:01,120
Is there a footnote to do it?

1230
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:02,360
What we didn't do it, right?

1231
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:03,780
Yeah.

1232
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:04,020
Oh, okay.

1233
01:38:04,820 --> 01:38:06,880
I don't need a big change.

1234
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:07,740
There's one way.

1235
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:08,600
Oh, here we are.

1236
01:38:08,660 --> 01:38:08,860
Sorry.

1237
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:09,420
Yeah.

1238
01:38:09,500 --> 01:38:10,660
Before saying it's on your notes.

1239
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:16,100
So, for me, doesn't need to remember to share links to existing information.

1240
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:18,380
A ton of it.

1241
01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:22,420
I mean, that doesn't.

1242
01:38:24,020 --> 01:38:38,220
In other words, so I guess you're trying to get that it's not just, you're not so constrained in the case of previously deliberated match.

1243
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,520
You don't have to go back through formal.

1244
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:48,720
The first thing is to authorize to post this stuff to be, to be able to use any previously deliberated content.

1245
01:38:53,000 --> 01:39:00,460
So, yeah, say, because deliberated is one thing, decided on voted on a breed as another.

1246
01:39:00,940 --> 01:39:02,700
So, I actually,

1247
01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:11,560
that's why I think, you think this list is, I think this is okay like this,

1248
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,960
because what kind of what we don't want,

1249
01:39:15,380 --> 01:39:17,580
it's so easy to slip into that gray area

1250
01:39:17,580 --> 01:39:19,800
that it was previously to look, you know,

1251
01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:22,160
it's a liberated, but you're giving your spin on it.

1252
01:39:23,020 --> 01:39:24,120
It's very easy.

1253
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:27,500
Okay, so you are, you are,

1254
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:30,780
and it's explicitly listing agenda in minutes,

1255
01:39:31,020 --> 01:39:32,740
which is one of the things I was thinking of.

1256
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:36,660
So there's a minute's policies, you know,

1257
01:39:36,900 --> 01:39:39,440
town department station, council, you know, contact.

1258
01:39:39,700 --> 01:39:40,920
So I'm just looking at that list

1259
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,960
and thinking if there's anything else that I would consider to be.

1260
01:39:45,380 --> 01:39:52,110
Because I don't think we would want to be necessarily like, well, we were talking about this.

1261
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:53,960
Yeah, topic.

1262
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:55,560
But we also talk about resolution.

1263
01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:02,820
And we also talk last time about how important is to share the links versus providing commentary

1264
01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:07,880
and kind of wordsmithing your way through and response versus just being like,

1265
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,440
This is how we discuss that this meeting here.

1266
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:11,640
The links here are the minutes.

1267
01:40:12,380 --> 01:40:17,260
That's a very much right, safer way than it makes the person who's

1268
01:40:17,260 --> 01:40:21,300
designated, probably much more comfortable, recognize that they don't have to.

1269
01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:22,360
Okay, so good.

1270
01:40:22,420 --> 01:40:22,940
Good work.

1271
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,760
It's going to go a little bit into the gray area on that one.

1272
01:40:27,180 --> 01:40:32,640
I think we, it's not unusual for us to have somebody ask about something that

1273
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,540
had a recent meeting for which the minutes have not yet been published.

1274
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:38,460
And yet

1275
01:40:40,540 --> 01:40:48,830
there was a meeting and there was a discussion and it would be great to be able to talk about that discussion or to

1276
01:40:50,830 --> 01:40:51,930
So I don't know

1277
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:58,690
Is our position going to me that we cannot point to anything until the minutes are actually published?

1278
01:41:00,090 --> 01:41:05,670
And if so, I would suggest that we try to be quick at publishing minutes.

1279
01:41:06,110 --> 01:41:07,930
I think there's a risk

1280
01:41:07,930 --> 01:41:11,830
is the comment because the questions often come after a meeting

1281
01:41:15,060 --> 01:41:18,780
and we're not always quick to

1282
01:41:18,780 --> 01:41:24,800
get our minutes out. In fact I would say this is work better than a lot of committees at that.

1283
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,840
Some committees are not good at all getting the minutes out of court for you.

1284
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:32,540
If we're asking

1285
01:41:32,540 --> 01:41:38,920
another committees to follow this policy as well. So I think that's an issue.

1286
01:41:40,940 --> 01:41:41,960
I'm sure how to handle

1287
01:41:44,690 --> 01:41:51,210
Yeah, I mean, I think it's one thing if you say, you know, you know, curious about the library,

1288
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:56,090
and you know, we could say, discuss the library with the choices are

1289
01:41:57,510 --> 01:42:02,010
and there were no votes taken, you know, the film will be off soon.

1290
01:42:02,350 --> 01:42:08,550
Yes. I mean, that's different from talk about the library and I don't know.

1291
01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:16,490
I think factual, being extremely factual and concise in the response, to your point, if you

1292
01:42:16,490 --> 01:42:21,230
could respond like that and not just point to the minutes, people are happy with that.

1293
01:42:21,610 --> 01:42:26,110
That works, I just don't, I think we have to make sure we don't, we encourage folks

1294
01:42:26,110 --> 01:42:30,910
not to provide common hearing that they should, if the minutes, if they're not just

1295
01:42:30,910 --> 01:42:36,690
to the minutes, then they, we would encourage, and say,

1296
01:42:36,890 --> 01:42:43,490
spatial responses. But it's, it's, I would rather leave it stripped down like this.

1297
01:42:44,590 --> 01:42:50,550
And yeah, and then, you know, at some point, we think too about it, is there any kind of

1298
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:53,190
trading route? So is there any, well, that's the whole thing, that's

1299
01:42:53,190 --> 01:42:56,170
question I have done roll out, is this roll-ups, you know,

1300
01:42:56,170 --> 01:42:58,350
is important, and it's the amount of time I said it, we're doing it.

1301
01:42:58,570 --> 01:43:04,610
I guess I agree. I think that we're deleting ourselves if we think this is the final version of

1302
01:43:05,290 --> 01:43:11,590
these of this policy. Right. I mean, right. So why don't we get this from going and try to use it for

1303
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:18,050
a year or whatever and see where the friction is. Right. See where the gaps in the

1304
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:25,770
policy are. You know, I was thinking now. That what might be helpful in your role

1305
01:43:27,930 --> 01:43:30,850
as a chair of the select word, is a video.

1306
01:43:32,110 --> 01:43:33,810
So you would have a video rolling,

1307
01:43:33,850 --> 01:43:35,190
because it's supposed to go to all members.

1308
01:43:36,090 --> 01:43:37,550
And so what I was thinking of you

1309
01:43:37,550 --> 01:43:40,310
created a video explaining the social media policy

1310
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:41,730
and thanking them for their volunteers,

1311
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:43,310
and I appreciate all your efforts.

1312
01:43:43,790 --> 01:43:46,030
This is the proved social media policy.

1313
01:43:46,210 --> 01:43:48,350
You kind of go through some of the high points of it.

1314
01:43:48,350 --> 01:43:48,610
Video.

1315
01:43:49,050 --> 01:43:56,150
Because it has to go to all members of what do you want to

1316
01:43:56,150 --> 01:44:01,650
on them to then give it to all their members. It would be easier if they just send the link of link of your video,

1317
01:44:01,730 --> 01:44:04,610
and they'd be like, all right, and if you have any questions, go to jail.

1318
01:44:07,290 --> 01:44:09,510
Oh, think about it. I'll think about that.

1319
01:44:09,510 --> 01:44:14,070
Because Roland is this crucial as the amount of time he's been creating it. If it doesn't get down

1320
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:20,110
to the, you know, the members and then let me let me just mention my reaction quickly, which is

1321
01:44:20,730 --> 01:44:26,850
I think each committee should be discussing this not relying on our discussion of it is their

1322
01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:32,890
sole source of thinking about it because, in my experience, the different committees really do have

1323
01:44:32,890 --> 01:44:37,010
different behaviors. Well, they're definitely going to think about it. But I think the initial

1324
01:44:37,010 --> 01:44:41,770
role out of what it is and what our intentions are and the thought that would end to it is just

1325
01:44:41,770 --> 01:44:46,610
the starting point. It's an agenda item on all their upcoming meetings to discuss it further and

1326
01:44:46,610 --> 01:44:50,410
and feed back to us. If we think we didn't catch or something, we need to queue the mind

1327
01:44:50,410 --> 01:44:59,230
passively for the next religion. Yeah, okay, I agree that some summary of this policy needs to be done

1328
01:44:59,230 --> 01:44:59,970
because it's a lot.

1329
01:45:01,060 --> 01:45:10,640
We'll take some care. Jim, I'll work with you. We'll come up with a covering email that goes with the policy and it's a high-level high-level school.

1330
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,640
She looks like she wants us dancing and singing.

1331
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,340
Yeah, but I just think she'll meet your parents.

1332
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,320
All right. Well, we'll take that under consideration. Thank you, guys.

1333
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:26,260
In terms of youthful treatment, Jennifer, do you pretend to remember the 250th video?

1334
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:31,660
I was in the bunker.

1335
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:37,640
I was in the bunker. I was in the bunker.

1336
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,000
It's a, you know, it's a huge one.

1337
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,560
It's a huge one.

1338
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:41,760
Okay.

1339
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,100
So we should make a motion.

1340
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:44,420
Oh, yeah.

1341
01:45:44,580 --> 01:45:51,440
As the money money conversion move that we adopt the social media policy

1342
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,780
as presented at the second.

1343
01:45:56,820 --> 01:45:57,160
All right.

1344
01:45:57,340 --> 01:45:58,840
Any further discussion on this one.

1345
01:46:00,440 --> 01:46:01,420
Let's go ahead and vote.

1346
01:46:01,740 --> 01:46:03,860
By all right, well, so I should say, I.

1347
01:46:04,740 --> 01:46:13,840
So, um, do we need to be approval from these two, to do a cover, don't do one I can work with and I'll share my laptop on the list.

1348
01:46:14,220 --> 01:46:14,420
Okay, sure.

1349
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,000
Which one?

1350
01:46:15,140 --> 01:46:15,400
Nice.

1351
01:46:15,940 --> 01:46:16,460
Nice.

1352
01:46:16,460 --> 01:46:17,180
Show two.

1353
01:46:19,140 --> 01:46:19,660
Okay.

1354
01:46:19,980 --> 01:46:21,180
I'll arrange a band.

1355
01:46:22,740 --> 01:46:23,040
Okay.

1356
01:46:23,940 --> 01:46:25,740
You're not really going to ask out here.

1357
01:46:26,220 --> 01:46:26,440
All right.

1358
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,820
Next up, we have, uh, the scubber Lincoln proposal.

1359
01:46:30,180 --> 01:46:32,440
I think this one is you, which I'm for, right?

1360
01:46:32,440 --> 01:46:35,480
And it's going to take the ball on this one.

1361
01:46:35,940 --> 01:46:36,080
Sure.

1362
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:53,420
So this is something that I've been thinking about for few years, which is, you know, we don't have as we discussed a huge commercial center, but we do have a commercial center,

1363
01:46:53,420 --> 01:47:02,520
us some really great institutions in town. And just thinking about, you know, are there

1364
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:10,620
ways that we can try to bolster them, introduce people to them, sort of maximize exposure,

1365
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:16,560
take advantage of the fact that we are on a train stop that's, you know, just a couple

1366
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:27,220
from Cambridge and a couple of stops from points out west to try to promote Lincoln a little bit

1367
01:47:27,220 --> 01:47:34,880
in terms of getting visitors in and having them enjoy the community and hopefully support our

1368
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:45,440
local businesses and nonprofits. So I had a couple of ideas about how to do this. One is this

1369
01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:52,640
by and from institutions, you know, maybe you get a slight, you buy the past that let's

1370
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:59,240
you go to all of our, you know, Brooklyn, and the border of the end was sort of wingland

1371
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:06,560
or two out of three or some such, you know, the slightly discounted rate, and then, you know, maybe

1372
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:12,920
with some opportunities to have businesses add on, like, come see us and you get the three

1373
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:18,920
You know, something that just gets people who are here, then to come further into our community.

1374
01:48:20,380 --> 01:48:29,440
And then the set was sort of one version and then the other version is, you know, kind of that scavenger

1375
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:35,180
or content of like here, here are these 10 places, things that you could do, and this could be

1376
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:40,360
the residents or visitors, you know, punch or ticket of your virtual ticket, your paper ticket,

1377
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:46,580
whatever that looks like, in all ways and again, there's some sense of at the end.

1378
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:54,280
Could you do both? Yeah, I think they're great. I think they're going to appeal to different.

1379
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:57,900
Yeah, and so I guess what I'm.

1380
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:02,480
You could do the scavenger hunt using your one, your two day paths or whatever.

1381
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:09,520
And if you're resident, you know, you already get into places for free, so you don't need that incentive.

1382
01:49:11,580 --> 01:49:25,420
So maybe it's one maybe it's both, and I guess what I'm really asking for this evening is just your permission to go talk to institutions and businesses and say, are you interested?

1383
01:49:25,820 --> 01:49:38,460
You know, or do you have some other idea that you think would help support you and spread the word and just highlight fun things that are going on there?

1384
01:49:38,460 --> 01:49:45,540
I think it's a great idea. I would encourage the discussions with the businesses. I think that

1385
01:49:45,540 --> 01:49:50,720
they might have some ideas about what will work and what will work. So they might be able to

1386
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,960
help us fine tune the idea. It will get some more effective.

1387
01:49:55,200 --> 01:50:01,760
Agreed. That would be the point. It's to come to them not with just a sort of blank slate.

1388
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,380
But like, here is a positive way of solving the problem.

1389
01:50:04,380 --> 01:50:05,900
Yeah, how would you add on?

1390
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:07,340
How would you what do you need?

1391
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,660
And this, I mean, this comes out of work

1392
01:50:09,660 --> 01:50:15,820
that was a decade or so that former select board members

1393
01:50:15,820 --> 01:50:19,380
have, as I said, started like an economic development

1394
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,300
could be a year, and there was interest.

1395
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,400
I think actually I was still unspoken

1396
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,140
and I attended as a school committee member.

1397
01:50:29,180 --> 01:50:32,020
And there was certainly interest in the, you know,

1398
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,060
from the organizations and the businesses that were in the road.

1399
01:50:36,300 --> 01:50:41,560
And it didn't have the point person to try to get something going.

1400
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:47,300
So, you know, I thought, well, if I offered to be the point person,

1401
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:52,180
then we at least start with something small and see if we can get something going.

1402
01:50:52,180 --> 01:51:01,460
I would encourage in terms of where folks can stop and I don't know exactly how I would

1403
01:51:01,460 --> 01:51:02,280
include it.

1404
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,040
I think it's more tough and pierce us.

1405
01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:11,940
We're trying to encourage both to consider it for corporate events, for their special events.

1406
01:51:12,740 --> 01:51:13,540
So I'm kind of...

1407
01:51:13,540 --> 01:51:14,460
Maybe how?

1408
01:51:14,540 --> 01:51:15,480
Can you find it for all of them?

1409
01:51:15,860 --> 01:51:16,140
Yeah.

1410
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:16,460
Some of them.

1411
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,320
How do we get there?

1412
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:21,920
That's where they have their lunch, maybe they can send a picture of them eating lunch

1413
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,460
one when it's warmer. Anyway, it's a thought, but I would like to hear

1414
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:29,460
sounds that you included in someone because I know they're always trying to

1415
01:51:29,460 --> 01:51:36,120
encourage business. On the business side, you have a comment here about payment

1416
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:42,940
logistics and if you had some kind of past, you would receive the money for that

1417
01:51:42,940 --> 01:51:47,640
past and how will they distribute it to the first fitting business? Yeah,

1418
01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:50,440
and

1419
01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:57,280
office of bots. I mean, there are ways to do this. There are existing programs that do this kind of thing already.

1420
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:03,000
Okay. And so I think there are different content that you want to add, what you found.

1421
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:09,940
No, I was very, really research just to get some sense of, just my mind on right there that that

1422
01:52:09,940 --> 01:52:16,540
may be most difficult part of solving this. How do you collect the money and this first set out?

1423
01:52:16,540 --> 01:52:21,960
And a little bit of AI research, and we came up with some different models.

1424
01:52:22,540 --> 01:52:29,980
So it didn't seem overwhelming because I was just simply going to advocate for the lightest way of things.

1425
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:38,720
We could do for the first try of this because I think we need to see how much traction this has before we start reading.

1426
01:52:38,940 --> 01:52:39,820
We need to go on to machinery.

1427
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:41,840
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

1428
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,000
It doesn't end up giving you so much.

1429
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:47,200
Honestly, the scavenger hunt is probably the latest.

1430
01:52:48,220 --> 01:52:50,440
With in terms of figuring out finances.

1431
01:52:52,140 --> 01:52:53,360
Yeah, I'm really talking about business.

1432
01:52:53,500 --> 01:52:54,520
But the revenue sharing.

1433
01:52:54,540 --> 01:52:56,600
But the revenue sharing, that would be a separate.

1434
01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:04,760
So that's why, again, I'm coming to you because I want to go talk to businesses and just

1435
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,420
we don't even say are you interested?

1436
01:53:06,580 --> 01:53:12,040
The thing instead of making people pre-paid for some kind of paths is maybe you simply do

1437
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:20,100
this a bunch of discounts, right? Like you know for particular weekends or particular

1438
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:26,940
times when all of our institutions are offering, you know, they go all agreed on whatever.

1439
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,020
Right. So that way, we want to use it. They can all collect their own revenue.

1440
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:40,180
You don't have to have any fancy accounting structure. There's nothing that's no business to

1441
01:53:40,180 --> 01:53:48,740
So to visit and to North Lincoln business over there, I don't know if Lincoln, I don't know if it's far apart.

1442
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,800
So anything, I'm just trying to think of all our aspects I've laid in.

1443
01:53:53,540 --> 01:53:56,400
Is the dining there open to the public?

1444
01:53:57,380 --> 01:53:58,300
It is.

1445
01:53:58,860 --> 01:53:59,880
Yeah, it's there.

1446
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:00,380
It's not there.

1447
01:54:02,950 --> 01:54:04,430
Trying to think of all aspects of Lincoln.

1448
01:54:04,610 --> 01:54:04,970
Oh, yeah.

1449
01:54:05,230 --> 01:54:05,350
Yeah.

1450
01:54:05,350 --> 01:54:05,510
Yeah.

1451
01:54:05,510 --> 01:54:07,730
site to just get on the north side.

1452
01:54:12,190 --> 01:54:12,370
Yeah.

1453
01:54:12,610 --> 01:54:24,470
There could be for anyone who's visiting, if you show your MBTA ticket, you know, maybe you get

1454
01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:27,030
a punch on them, which aren't going to be scattered in the hunt.

1455
01:54:29,210 --> 01:54:37,710
You could order to use the bikes, you know, to use the bike share or charge at one of our charging stations.

1456
01:54:37,710 --> 01:54:43,690
I don't know. I think it's, well, I think promoting it. You definitely wouldn't want to highlight the fact that we have

1457
01:54:43,690 --> 01:54:51,750
by chair and we have the organizations. Yeah, and we have a train. Right. So that people feel like it's more accessible

1458
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:58,230
than they might have thought it was. Right. Really, really so close to having a chamber of commerce.

1459
01:55:00,130 --> 01:55:01,370
Next roll.

1460
01:55:04,490 --> 01:55:07,230
We need to vote on this.

1461
01:55:08,530 --> 01:55:08,610
Sure.

1462
01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:16,050
I'm sure that we authorize Jennifer to approach local businesses on the Lincoln pass idea.

1463
01:55:23,650 --> 01:55:25,170
Let's go.

1464
01:55:26,730 --> 01:55:28,390
Thank you.

1465
01:55:28,730 --> 01:55:29,590
Thanks for that.

1466
01:55:30,430 --> 01:55:30,570
Thank you.

1467
01:55:30,730 --> 01:55:31,790
Good luck.

1468
01:55:31,970 --> 01:55:32,690
Let's go.

1469
01:55:33,230 --> 01:55:34,510
Let's help you get help.

1470
01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:35,750
Oh, don't worry.

1471
01:55:36,210 --> 01:55:36,590
Thank you.

1472
01:55:38,010 --> 01:55:38,390
All right.

1473
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:43,050
Next on our agenda, we have a big calling and redevelopment for

1474
01:55:45,050 --> 01:55:56,490
So we have all learned of the rezoning plan that was approved by the WALFAM City Council and the past month or so.

1475
01:55:56,510 --> 01:56:12,610
One of the elements of that proposes of next use redevelopment as the former big colony property at the Lincoln WALFAM Town line on along Winner Street and some of the details or you have to come.

1476
01:56:12,610 --> 01:56:19,770
we worked out in the next phase of the application processing wall plan, but what we do know is that

1477
01:56:19,770 --> 01:56:30,650
it includes a proposal for 1200 new units of housing, and we know at this point the result the

1478
01:56:30,650 --> 01:56:42,590
rezoning has been approved, and the next step of the process in wall plan will require that the

1479
01:56:42,590 --> 01:56:52,570
of accompanying data and plans that were attached to the rezoning application, we know that

1480
01:56:52,570 --> 01:56:58,970
those were preliminary in nature. So the final plans will come as part of the special

1481
01:56:58,970 --> 01:57:07,210
improvement application. We are starting here from some Lincoln neighbors. The thrust of those

1482
01:57:07,210 --> 01:57:13,210
comments are, you know, please make sure that time government stays aware informed about the

1483
01:57:13,210 --> 01:57:22,950
Waltham process. And when we have more information that we work to do outreach to the impacted

1484
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:29,670
neighborhood. My thought for this evening, I'm sure you will have your own onboard with hundreds

1485
01:57:29,670 --> 01:57:39,430
involved because that we start by going on record at least with the city, with the mayor, and with the city council,

1486
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:46,870
with some basic, and outline of some of the basic concerns that are likely to emerge of like

1487
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:55,070
and when we have the opportunity to look more deeply at the point. And I think the challenge in our

1488
01:57:55,070 --> 01:58:01,870
comments is we want to tone the acknowledges that we don't have our role in the zoning

1489
01:58:01,870 --> 01:58:10,470
in the city's zoning and land use decisions. However, we've had success with our neighboring

1490
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:18,530
towns on mitigation over the years and decades. And so we want to be smart about thinking about

1491
01:58:18,530 --> 01:58:26,430
how this project impacts and connects with Lincoln's neighborhoods and roadways, and if there

1492
01:58:26,430 --> 01:58:32,990
are mitigation strategies, traffic, pedestrian safety, and whatever else the professionals

1493
01:58:32,990 --> 01:58:38,970
may come up with that we have an opportunity not only to think about them on our end, but

1494
01:58:38,970 --> 01:58:44,010
an open channel to communicate those effectively to all them.

1495
01:58:44,010 --> 01:58:50,730
So my, my, that's what that's the tone I was intending to accomplish with that draft

1496
01:58:50,730 --> 01:58:55,550
letter that you have to look at. Questions, comments.

1497
01:58:57,070 --> 01:59:01,870
So first, thank you for putting this together and I know that this has sort of been happening

1498
01:59:01,870 --> 01:59:09,050
over the summer. If you have a so residents may or, you know, or probably just getting a

1499
01:59:09,050 --> 01:59:13,430
It's some of this all that they were a couple of articles, I guess I'm going to do.

1500
01:59:15,210 --> 01:59:17,490
I was so chatter on, like I'm talking.

1501
01:59:17,530 --> 01:59:19,550
There was a little bit of chatter on me.

1502
01:59:20,310 --> 01:59:27,250
I think it is totally makes sense to send a letter to all of them,

1503
01:59:27,670 --> 01:59:31,050
with questions and things that we're thinking about.

1504
01:59:32,970 --> 01:59:37,050
I want to make sure that they read it with an open,

1505
01:59:37,050 --> 01:59:43,770
find and don't feel like, oh, they're kicking up the same, you know, concerns that are always kicked

1506
01:59:43,770 --> 01:59:47,830
up in these situations. So I guess I just wanted to,

1507
01:59:51,010 --> 01:59:52,510
there were a couple of places in our

1508
01:59:52,510 --> 01:59:54,390
language where I just want to

1509
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,980
be a little clearer that we have.

1510
02:00:00,020 --> 02:00:10,220
Questions about things and that we just want to first, we just want to make sure that we're working to get there.

1511
02:00:10,340 --> 02:00:24,420
Are you saying you want less detail at this stage? Like not give them all the details of what we might conclude or what we might want to avoid?

1512
02:00:24,420 --> 02:00:29,580
Um, I think higher level discussion or it's on their language.

1513
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:35,420
Yeah, I think it's maybe you know, what's about detail.

1514
02:00:36,220 --> 02:00:40,040
Um, I don't think it's a matter of higher level versus detail.

1515
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:42,420
Or that you know, there.

1516
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:49,200
We know that the question of finding ways to create housing is, you know,

1517
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:55,120
everywhere in the conversation. And obviously, they have a solution that they've been discussing

1518
02:00:55,120 --> 02:01:03,180
for a long time that is redeveloping a currently developed site. It's not will be, you know,

1519
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:09,240
new land. And so I guess I just want to make sure that we're sensitive to the fact that they have spent a long time

1520
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:17,260
trying to find a creative solution. And our role is to make sure that if there are impacts from that that we're

1521
02:01:17,260 --> 02:01:24,840
that we're talking about what that means for our pedestrians and our cyclists and our certain

1522
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:32,180
intersections. So it's really just a matter of walking that line of, this is their zoning,

1523
02:01:32,780 --> 02:01:39,500
we understand what they're trying to do. And you're near the Cambridge Reservoir, these are sensitive

1524
02:01:39,500 --> 02:01:47,140
areas and this is in an area with a lot of public transportation door pathways or bike lanes or things

1525
02:01:47,140 --> 02:01:49,140
that can help protect people.

1526
02:01:49,460 --> 02:01:52,040
So how do we make sure that we're keeping that conversation

1527
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:53,380
opens to work?

1528
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:58,260
Do you want to send some suggested edits to Tim?

1529
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:01,880
Or us to discuss next time?

1530
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:03,220
I think next time.

1531
02:02:03,460 --> 02:02:04,580
Do is that too late?

1532
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:05,780
Is that too late?

1533
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,160
Do we have to get something out quickly?

1534
02:02:10,940 --> 02:02:13,020
What do you think the timeline is on this Tim?

1535
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:14,880
I think.

1536
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,320
I think it can wait until the 20th trip.

1537
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:20,400
I don't think anything's going to move that quickly in Waltham.

1538
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:28,900
I'm more concerned about wanting to get something like this out to our neighborhoods so

1539
02:02:28,900 --> 02:02:30,560
that they know and run.

1540
02:02:31,740 --> 02:02:33,140
I do want that too.

1541
02:02:33,380 --> 02:02:33,440
Right.

1542
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:39,840
And I mean, certainly if it comes up or if you get asked or we get asked, I think.

1543
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:43,820
To our discussion earlier, we can say we're working on the letter.

1544
02:02:43,820 --> 02:02:49,660
we understand, we understand the questions you have and we're working on a letter and do a little

1545
02:02:49,660 --> 02:02:55,960
finalized. Can we give you, I appreciate this letter and I can understand your concerns that we are trying

1546
02:02:55,960 --> 02:03:01,260
to collaborate with Wolf and obviously I appreciate that they're looking to reuse a site that's

1547
02:03:01,260 --> 02:03:06,400
basically vacant, that office park. So I completely understand and respect the fact that they're

1548
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:13,920
to look for housing there. Not a bad idea. And then it's on our border and so traffic considerations

1549
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:19,640
coming through. We all, we have a heat map in the track, just tissue coalition world,

1550
02:03:19,980 --> 02:03:25,360
where we can see where our accidents are and the accidents at Old County and Trepello is red hot.

1551
02:03:25,540 --> 02:03:36,380
Like in that accident we have now and the amount of traffic goes through and if we had an increase you

1552
02:03:36,380 --> 02:03:43,000
down some language if you have some suggestions and I would but I'd like the mayor I like the content

1553
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:47,100
of this and I like that that would be kind of to the different areas that were concerned about

1554
02:03:47,860 --> 02:03:53,400
obviously conservation and the Cambridge Reservoir but if you want to work with TAM on and help

1555
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:58,480
and I'm mitigating the language and I'm just I think I would vote to allow Jennifer to do that

1556
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:02,520
with TAM that he's over to do it and we'll go from there where she came back to September 20.

1557
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:06,640
not feeding to go back. Yeah. And so authorizing them to finalize the draft.

1558
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:11,980
I would be comfortable with that. And I mean, so that piece of information is actually

1559
02:04:11,980 --> 02:04:17,300
really interesting. And I don't know if that's worth, you know, we do have that kind of

1560
02:04:17,300 --> 02:04:22,040
heat map information like we know that this could touch on some areas that are already

1561
02:04:23,300 --> 02:04:32,500
or challenging for us. So I was really, really appreciate. Because I think that kind of

1562
02:04:32,500 --> 02:05:02,460
So yeah, I guess, yeah, it wasn't clear to me what that was about and how we can write it so that it's short so that it makes that clear because I think that's super used to be able to say like we're not just sort of, you know,

1563
02:05:02,460 --> 02:05:08,960
of them later, not that Gualtam is going to immediately do anything in the next two weeks, but I

1564
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:14,460
think residents are starting to become aware of this and want to know that we're on it.

1565
02:05:14,820 --> 02:05:24,640
Exactly. We are on it. So let's get it out. We'll do that. If you have a word version,

1566
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:38,560
I'll send it. Jennifer. Yep. Thank you. All right, so we take a formal vote on that. Yeah, it's probably true. I moved that we offer us Jennifer to work with Tim to finalize the draft on this letter to fall.

1567
02:05:39,700 --> 02:05:40,160
Second.

1568
02:05:41,020 --> 02:05:42,320
for the discussion.

1569
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:44,080
Pardon.

1570
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:45,020
Was that?

1571
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:45,380
Of course.

1572
02:05:46,980 --> 02:05:48,020
Thank you.

1573
02:05:50,700 --> 02:05:51,740
Next up.

1574
02:05:51,820 --> 02:05:54,420
So what can I work it on?

1575
02:05:54,660 --> 02:05:55,560
Working on it.

1576
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:56,720
Working on the last for the pictures.

1577
02:05:57,140 --> 02:05:59,380
I don't think I have any recent pictures.

1578
02:05:59,680 --> 02:05:59,840
Yeah.

1579
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:00,740
They need these.

1580
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:04,120
Well, so I think, so.

1581
02:06:04,120 --> 02:06:09,880
Maggie has the excellent suggestion of creating a color version of the postcard that could

1582
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:17,940
posted on the television when page. And so it is. So I think those images would get shows the front

1583
02:06:17,940 --> 02:06:21,640
back in the postcard and that would probably be good to put in there. If you want.

1584
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,380
Katie, could you send me those images if you would mind please?

1585
02:06:26,900 --> 02:06:27,360
Well, too.

1586
02:06:28,020 --> 02:06:32,160
Thank you. Um, and then what are you thinking of? Yes, out.

1587
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:36,820
Be days, concentration. I mean, I know we've put them out, but just like little reminders.

1588
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:41,200
No, I definitely before then. I'm not. I don't want to draw anything on a Friday.

1589
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:48,060
So I was thinking that maybe like this Monday morning at 1.15. So they're getting it early next week.

1590
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:55,280
Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't want to do any of these. I've like kind of doing it.

1591
02:06:55,460 --> 02:06:57,620
I don't know what life. So I work on this.

1592
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:01,220
I want to do a video.

1593
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:14,260
Yeah, so I will work up as today, Miguel Gichubez, a puppy, and I'm not too far off that

1594
02:07:14,260 --> 02:07:18,260
stuff going on, but Saturday, if you guys don't mind looking at it a little weekend, and

1595
02:07:18,260 --> 02:07:22,280
finalizing it, then I said, one day morning, I can send it out.

1596
02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:29,300
As long as we're on that, let me remind you all that I'm away the next two weeks, and I will have

1597
02:07:30,110 --> 02:07:40,110
Um, Internet access, sporadically, 30, 30 years. So, tonight, let's tomorrow night, tomorrow night.

1598
02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:41,750
Oh, so it's going to be a main point.

1599
02:07:42,450 --> 02:07:45,470
You said it to me and maybe all the time.

1600
02:07:45,970 --> 02:07:46,490
Don't wait.

1601
02:07:47,090 --> 02:07:47,370
Okay. Okay.

1602
02:07:48,330 --> 02:07:48,590
All right.

1603
02:07:48,730 --> 02:07:49,490
On these things.

1604
02:07:49,590 --> 02:07:49,770
Okay.

1605
02:07:50,090 --> 02:07:57,690
I was going to ask somebody to share the meeting on the 21st, but I guess we don't need that anymore.

1606
02:07:58,370 --> 02:07:58,490
Right.

1607
02:07:59,270 --> 02:08:01,810
So they're delighted about that.

1608
02:08:01,950 --> 02:08:10,430
Kim, there might be a couple of links kind of on state news that might not be better to believe.

1609
02:08:10,750 --> 02:08:11,550
Do you understand anything?

1610
02:08:11,790 --> 02:08:15,010
I'll send them so first in our talk about them in the ASL.

1611
02:08:15,410 --> 02:08:17,470
Okay, speaking on the ASP.

1612
02:08:17,930 --> 02:08:18,530
Are you ready?

1613
02:08:19,650 --> 02:08:20,310
Let's do it.

1614
02:08:20,510 --> 02:08:21,270
Who wants to start?

1615
02:08:22,090 --> 02:08:30,930
So, just as an interesting point of information, and we currently have 254 subscribers

1616
02:08:30,930 --> 02:08:41,290
until select FNAQ, we have 347 on behalf of it, and again, with your permission, I'd like to

1617
02:08:41,290 --> 02:08:47,310
reach out to the reports and communities and organizations and say, by the way, and select

1618
02:08:47,310 --> 02:08:48,130
it for both, right?

1619
02:08:48,130 --> 02:08:51,550
for both. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because there are some new members that just don't join

1620
02:08:51,550 --> 02:08:58,170
being packed and I'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to get back out to board activities and also

1621
02:08:58,170 --> 02:09:04,850
the Institutions of Suss-Pallivers, we've connected. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So excellent. That's that.

1622
02:09:04,850 --> 02:09:13,790
I had a mass municipal association board meeting earlier this week and a couple of students from

1623
02:09:13,790 --> 02:09:16,870
that for the first two months of this both 27,

1624
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:20,070
the state revenue is higher than last year,

1625
02:09:20,110 --> 02:09:24,890
if I almost 14%, so I've lots of qualifiers

1626
02:09:24,890 --> 02:09:27,710
about their life months, and so on and so forth.

1627
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:30,510
They were about to set each year,

1628
02:09:30,650 --> 02:09:31,950
they have a agreed upon,

1629
02:09:32,190 --> 02:09:33,890
between the governor and the legislature,

1630
02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:35,550
the agreed upon benchmarks,

1631
02:09:35,810 --> 02:09:38,650
that they hope to hit throughout the year

1632
02:09:38,650 --> 02:09:41,230
to know whether or not they're staying on track.

1633
02:09:41,230 --> 02:09:49,210
So those are about to come out, so I don't know how the first two months will fit into that,

1634
02:09:50,250 --> 02:09:56,010
but it's certainly on a state level better news than not to have it move first couple of months.

1635
02:09:56,630 --> 02:10:09,390
The Protect Act was signed into law, which is the aimed at keeping ice out of sensitive areas such as schools and healthcare.

1636
02:10:11,130 --> 02:10:18,190
facilities and it's in effect and school committees are required to develop policies.

1637
02:10:19,610 --> 02:10:24,990
So the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education came out with guidelines,

1638
02:10:25,690 --> 02:10:29,590
schools like two and a half minutes before they opened their doors,

1639
02:10:30,150 --> 02:10:33,650
which is I think a little stressful for the school community.

1640
02:10:34,050 --> 02:10:36,050
At least that's when I was hearing at the state level,

1641
02:10:36,050 --> 02:10:42,210
would not be surprised if it was locally as well. But the rules are in place, but there's

1642
02:10:42,210 --> 02:10:48,110
a post, and there are, I think, sort of, samples of these, and guidance that is coming out,

1643
02:10:48,510 --> 02:10:54,970
but they have to develop emergency action plans, so and so forth. So, you know, it may be a topic

1644
02:10:54,970 --> 02:11:02,770
that our school maybe is on. As one of the laws that would pass, there's a new foundation budget

1645
02:11:02,770 --> 02:11:11,530
the review task force that is looking at how a school funding is structured. So that is, I think

1646
02:11:11,530 --> 02:11:17,770
it's been a while since that was done. So this is, I don't know how long this small

1647
02:11:17,770 --> 02:11:23,470
after when they're supposed to be very report, but this is just getting going. And it's to,

1648
02:11:23,690 --> 02:11:29,510
and that obviously we'll have implications down the road for what that means for a municipal budget

1649
02:11:29,510 --> 02:11:35,310
in terms of, you know, what do districts get and how are they supported by the state?

1650
02:11:36,050 --> 02:11:41,610
So it's just something to pay attention to properly in the next couple of years.

1651
02:11:42,910 --> 02:11:47,070
And then there are a lot of big bills that are still in conference committee, such as the

1652
02:11:47,070 --> 02:11:50,950
mass ready bill, which is the economic development bill.

1653
02:11:53,230 --> 02:11:57,210
There are, yeah, it's in conference, so there's a Senate version, there's a house version,

1654
02:11:57,210 --> 02:12:03,250
and they're trying to hash it out as, you know, one example in the Senate version, there's

1655
02:12:03,250 --> 02:12:12,190
$500 million for the Disciple of Vulnerability Preparedness Program, and the House S315.

1656
02:12:12,510 --> 02:12:20,030
So, there's a pretty big app between those two, and it also touched some of the items

1657
02:12:20,030 --> 02:12:26,250
problem being useful in power and act into the second, I would like to build a deal such

1658
02:12:26,790 --> 02:12:29,270
as permanent authorization of remote meetings.

1659
02:12:31,750 --> 02:12:38,410
So the timing, no one, no one's crystal ball was very clear in terms of when this all

1660
02:12:38,410 --> 02:12:43,810
might take out, because we've got elections that November, so they want to get it done before

1661
02:12:43,810 --> 02:12:46,410
than or after then to the tournament.

1662
02:12:47,770 --> 02:12:48,930
So, anyway, I'll have another one.

1663
02:12:50,010 --> 02:12:52,430
Three, thank you, John Burnton.

1664
02:12:52,990 --> 02:12:53,670
How much you?

1665
02:12:54,130 --> 02:12:55,250
Oh, I think I'll mention,

1666
02:12:55,490 --> 02:12:57,350
and I don't think I think it was last time.

1667
02:12:57,550 --> 02:12:59,990
I think it was the bicycle pedestrian advisory committee,

1668
02:13:00,130 --> 02:13:01,290
but I don't know if you can miss John Reynolds

1669
02:13:01,290 --> 02:13:06,050
and Bob Wolff rolled off after they were in normal members.

1670
02:13:06,070 --> 02:13:07,990
So they've been on for 10 plus years,

1671
02:13:09,110 --> 02:13:11,910
and James Craig joined the last B-PAC call,

1672
02:13:11,910 --> 02:13:20,350
But when initiated, Bicycle Pedestrian Advisor can be and the prior feedback committee and thanking them for their many years of service on the committee.

1673
02:13:20,450 --> 02:13:36,410
So there's a very nice transition. They have their two new members Bob Hooverstein and Ethan Healy on Beepack, but it was a very nice end off her John and Bach, who's best in her dog and and Beepack have its seats at tables that they never had.

1674
02:13:36,410 --> 02:13:41,490
Tim and I know this will work with the BECAC folks who are just tremendous advocates for the

1675
02:13:41,490 --> 02:13:47,690
bicycle pedestrian community. So, well done to John and Bob and joined their retirement.

1676
02:13:48,450 --> 02:13:51,030
Easy to involve. Cooperstein, well done.

1677
02:13:51,870 --> 02:13:58,810
Great. Thank you. On my side, I'm not a whole lot of new families still working on

1678
02:14:00,530 --> 02:14:09,410
turn to evaluate whether we should be pushing for batteries at the community center. So that's

1679
02:14:09,410 --> 02:14:15,670
still a technical and legal and contractual question that's ongoing and we'll have another meeting

1680
02:14:15,670 --> 02:14:24,070
on that tomorrow. So stay tuned for more details about that. But the good news is that we are

1681
02:14:24,070 --> 02:14:32,970
going to apply to this, develop, and program for grants for these battery projects and the

1682
02:14:32,970 --> 02:14:38,430
feedback from the state is that they really want Lincoln to apply that were one of the early

1683
02:14:38,430 --> 02:14:54,050
people doing this and they want us to propose, they're okay with us proposing a couple of

1684
02:14:54,710 --> 02:14:55,790
So that's in progress.

1685
02:14:57,590 --> 02:14:58,730
That's it for me.

1686
02:14:59,530 --> 02:14:59,970
That's stuff we haven't.

1687
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,860
Talk about already. Shall we move on to Lieutenant Administrator's report 10? Will listen on landfill solar project update?

1688
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:15,020
Well, now I'm seeing the birth of the baby health. I'll say six consecutive meeting.

1689
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:16,860
I think we need a little induction here.

1690
02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:28,480
So with Beth writing heard, his continuing to chip away at the punch list on the items.

1691
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:32,680
I listed some of those punchless items in my report for you.

1692
02:15:32,820 --> 02:15:40,580
I did pass Beth whether she thought it was reasonable to think that they might complete that punchless by the end of the month.

1693
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:43,120
And she said she did think it was achievable.

1694
02:15:43,940 --> 02:15:50,780
So again, to be safe, I would say certainly this month or next month, the system should go online.

1695
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:55,940
And when we get to you on that, one of the things that we're looking forward to,

1696
02:15:55,940 --> 02:16:02,580
certainly brings some ideas back to you all, is thinking about some ways to do a public education,

1697
02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:09,140
piece one of the project is done and functioning, and what are its environmental attributes,

1698
02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:16,460
and how is the town benefiting from those? I'm really going to throw out another pitch for getting

1699
02:16:16,460 --> 02:16:24,360
some kind of dashboard for all of our projects, for all of our solar projects, for each of our solar

1700
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:31,500
projects and I told Dan this as well. I know that it's a little bit of a hurdle to try to get one

1701
02:16:31,500 --> 02:16:37,980
thing that aggregates everything. Yeah, let's not go for that right away. Let's just go for individual

1702
02:16:37,980 --> 02:16:44,620
dashboards for each project, which the various developers should be able to provide without

1703
02:16:44,620 --> 02:16:53,580
doing any heavy lifting. Yeah. Yep. But I get requests for that. Yeah. Every week,

1704
02:16:53,580 --> 02:16:56,880
practically. Yep. I will.

1705
02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:00,340
Which that again will be best.

1706
02:17:00,340 --> 02:17:03,700
Somebody brought it so we can manage to check to the three.

1707
02:17:03,960 --> 02:17:05,320
You've been deciding with the school.

1708
02:17:05,580 --> 02:17:09,680
Well, if we have a page that just had the links to three

1709
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:11,780
different places like that, right?

1710
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:17,740
I think if I were going to let a select connect article about the landfill

1711
02:17:17,740 --> 02:17:19,080
sold that I don't know.

1712
02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:25,680
And a few, six sentences, how do residents see the benefits of the landfills of a project?

1713
02:17:26,640 --> 02:17:37,500
Well, I think it's a very efficient repurposing of a site that, you know, with a landfills site.

1714
02:17:38,100 --> 02:17:41,140
So I think that's an immediate benefit.

1715
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:45,040
The environmental benefits, I think, are significant.

1716
02:17:45,520 --> 02:17:47,800
We can give you the date on environmental benefits.

1717
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:53,100
And then there's financial benefits, there's three different forms of revenue.

1718
02:17:53,700 --> 02:17:59,900
I'd also add to that that we have a new path link, the Mill Street connection, but eventually

1719
02:17:59,900 --> 02:18:05,660
to dead for the road, you know, we've faced one of that done, did I miss any of them, Jim?

1720
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:06,360
That's good.

1721
02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:07,560
What are the financial flows?

1722
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:10,080
Is the lease payment, there's the price?

1723
02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:17,760
There's a pilot, a payment and more tax payment, and then the PVA, the lease payment

1724
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:25,860
than the PPA projected savings. And I can get you the information. I don't recall each of those numbers off the top.

1725
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:29,280
It was just you got a lower budget number for.

1726
02:18:29,540 --> 02:18:32,480
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

1727
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:35,420
I'll be up that too.

1728
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:43,000
Hi, let's have a look. There have been a series of listening sessions around the state in person and virtually about

1729
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:46,120
I let in general, is that anything that suits us to us?

1730
02:18:46,940 --> 02:18:50,660
It is, so we get money on the cherished sheet annually

1731
02:18:51,340 --> 02:18:54,300
for the hands of the mass-forward property,

1732
02:18:54,520 --> 02:18:57,580
effectively, in the fact that it's non-taxable.

1733
02:18:58,500 --> 02:19:01,600
And so we do pay attention when that's being debated

1734
02:19:01,600 --> 02:19:04,200
in the legislature, and typically

1735
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:07,160
send a quick email to our legislators

1736
02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:10,660
reminding them of the importance to Lincoln.

1737
02:19:10,660 --> 02:19:20,660
So I think there's a virtual listening session on either October 5th or 6, but ones that

1738
02:19:20,660 --> 02:19:27,780
none of the in-person ones are all that close, so I don't know if we have anything we

1739
02:19:27,780 --> 02:19:33,760
wouldn't want to say or we'd want to hear what other people are saying, but I'll see Jennifer

1740
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:37,220
if either Colleen or I can sit in on that.

1741
02:19:38,020 --> 02:19:42,100
It's probably, I'm sure it's come to your email, but it did.

1742
02:19:42,980 --> 02:19:43,920
Yeah, it did.

1743
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:53,550
Anything else on nothing for me on the landfill?

1744
02:19:54,010 --> 02:19:55,770
I think it's a very regional agreement.

1745
02:19:56,310 --> 02:20:00,150
The board knows that there was a set aside item.

1746
02:20:00,590 --> 02:20:02,730
That was to be addressed to an MOU.

1747
02:20:03,230 --> 02:20:09,170
Having to do with the respective election procedures in the two towns.

1748
02:20:09,170 --> 02:20:11,710
rather than hold up the vote and town meeting,

1749
02:20:11,950 --> 02:20:15,110
we agreed to work on that in the form of the MOU.

1750
02:20:15,830 --> 02:20:20,010
We, my counterpart and I organized a working group,

1751
02:20:20,250 --> 02:20:21,570
who's now had two meetings,

1752
02:20:22,170 --> 02:20:24,990
town council, now has all of the information

1753
02:20:24,990 --> 02:20:27,410
that she needs from the two communities,

1754
02:20:27,970 --> 02:20:30,030
and she's going to draft up an MOU.

1755
02:20:30,650 --> 02:20:33,270
Can I expect to have that in October,

1756
02:20:33,490 --> 02:20:35,070
to bring to you all?

1757
02:20:36,490 --> 02:20:51,050
And the U. All is a link instead of a regional agreement subcommittee that we set up for the advising. We have a protocol document. If you remember that we are working on to establish the how to do this again and how many years or

1758
02:20:51,050 --> 02:21:00,070
And so we're just going to approve both Tim's MOU and the protocol document that final meeting. I guess not to the great.

1759
02:21:01,150 --> 02:21:09,310
roadway projects, really nothing to report good progress on all fronts. Everything is coming

1760
02:21:09,310 --> 02:21:16,890
forward on schedule. Bedford will drainage done, water main phase, one done, water

1761
02:21:16,890 --> 02:21:22,270
main phase two, moving more quickly. We talked about the data for our meeting where the

1762
02:21:22,270 --> 02:21:28,870
contractor is now hoping to be able to wrap the water main phase two up by the end of the

1763
02:21:28,870 --> 02:21:33,870
If you remember there was some conversation of having to laugh over into

1764
02:21:36,430 --> 02:21:42,990
27 and breaking it down into two construction seasons, and it doesn't look like that's going to be necessary.

1765
02:21:43,570 --> 02:21:48,510
So the one item that's yet to be scheduled is getting under the tracks.

1766
02:21:49,470 --> 02:21:52,570
So we've got to figure that piece out.

1767
02:21:52,770 --> 02:21:56,490
We don't have a commitment yet about the timing of that happening,

1768
02:21:56,490 --> 02:22:00,790
but that's all coming together as we had hoped.

1769
02:22:01,350 --> 02:22:07,990
Ballfield Road improvements were on schedule to have consensus among all the stakeholders about the plan,

1770
02:22:08,290 --> 02:22:13,270
so that it can come back to the board with a recommendation to go to the capital planning committee.

1771
02:22:13,690 --> 02:22:19,770
In the meantime, we have a placeholder in the five-year capital plan for that project.

1772
02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:25,130
Any questions on those projects?

1773
02:22:25,130 --> 02:22:29,610
So I didn't mention it, but I should, so...

1774
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:41,240
We're making progress on the time-waring pavement study. The vehicle collected the data. It took a little

1775
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:48,020
longer than the engineer had hoped to get that data in a usable form, but we now have it and John

1776
02:22:48,020 --> 02:22:54,020
Vancouver and his team are looking at the data and they're doing scenario development.

1777
02:22:59,960 --> 02:22:59,980
And

1778
02:22:59,980 --> 02:23:07,800
is what's the total cost of getting the townwide system from the level that's

1779
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:13,780
at now to what the desired level will be and we are not making any assumptions

1780
02:23:13,780 --> 02:23:18,780
about what the town leadership of the resident bowl will be that will be a big

1781
02:23:18,780 --> 02:23:23,800
part of the conversation where you want to set that target for maintenance over time

1782
02:23:23,800 --> 02:23:28,740
but the baseline assumption is how much would it cost if you did it all in

1783
02:23:28,740 --> 02:23:37,120
year one. And so then we'll look at if we front will the investment to try to get closer to that

1784
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:43,680
objective sooner and try to stay ahead of inflation, what would that scenario look like? And if

1785
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:51,000
we get feedback from Capcom and Fincom and the board that tax impacts or affecting our desire

1786
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:56,620
to try to push that forward, what if we spread that investment out of all the time? So we'll look

1787
02:23:56,620 --> 02:24:09,240
that we'll look at that, and we'll also look at, once we do get an investment strategy that allows us to meet that maintenance objective, what will it cost annually to stay at that level?

1788
02:24:09,400 --> 02:24:15,180
Make sure that we're not letting the world slip over time. So there'll be lots of conversation.

1789
02:24:15,180 --> 02:24:19,440
And we are, I am certainly having been through something like this before.

1790
02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:24,580
I'm not a swimming swimming sport process, I'm just going to be a lot of public interest,

1791
02:24:25,160 --> 02:24:32,140
and a lot of board, the boards and committees don't want to have input to come to such

1792
02:24:32,140 --> 02:24:32,660
it.

1793
02:24:33,540 --> 02:24:34,880
Put a question on that though.

1794
02:24:35,420 --> 02:24:36,280
We haven't seen the data.

1795
02:24:36,460 --> 02:24:37,260
I don't know if you've seen the data.

1796
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:44,280
So, saying what most of our roads are at 2 and 3, and our goals, to get a close to 4 and

1797
02:24:47,480 --> 02:25:10,920
We'll be given a number in the next month or so to get to four or five and will that number be included in that capital slide that we're going to show for the HVAP at the special time meeting because we're actually now going to have data and possibly better numbers versus I think we've been like 20 million was a place over there something but we might actually have a better idea of what that number's going to have to be.

1798
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,720
Could that possibly be more informed for the contract?

1799
02:25:13,900 --> 02:25:15,200
Potentially can, yeah.

1800
02:25:15,420 --> 02:25:19,920
I mean, I'll share with you as we get the information be careful.

1801
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:25,280
But yeah, you need to ask questions about that number

1802
02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:27,060
before you start publishing out to people,

1803
02:25:27,160 --> 02:25:29,280
because when you get a number out to people,

1804
02:25:29,420 --> 02:25:30,960
they start laughing in their minds.

1805
02:25:31,080 --> 02:25:32,640
Well, we're going to get a number out to people,

1806
02:25:32,880 --> 02:25:35,920
but it's going to be really not based on anything.

1807
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:38,720
It's kind of like our, like, I'm guessing it to be honest.

1808
02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:47,920
Well, what we did for the police over your remember is we took almost 20 years ago that we did the downwind at six million

1809
02:25:47,920 --> 02:25:53,680
eschip I recall and we just inflated that number, but that was really really wrong to be

1810
02:25:53,680 --> 02:25:54,080
lost.

1811
02:25:54,260 --> 02:26:01,100
One of the things, I mean, actually you all, I think appreciate the challenge and I'd say even

1812
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:06,040
enjoy kind of the back and forth about what the emphasis should be.

1813
02:26:06,040 --> 02:26:11,680
So when we did the last program, the focus was on the main roads in town, and I'm not going

1814
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:16,300
to say we ignored the secondaries in the neighborhood roads, but we didn't give them

1815
02:26:16,300 --> 02:26:20,100
a lot of attention, and we can't do that.

1816
02:26:20,660 --> 02:26:24,700
I mean, there's some roads in town in the neighborhood roads that need significant attention.

1817
02:26:24,940 --> 02:26:30,080
So there's going to be some real conversation about where it does a elected leadership

1818
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:32,120
on a focus investment.

1819
02:26:32,120 --> 02:26:39,100
Yeah, I think we are going to discuss, again, whether they should get the same get to the same standard or not, right?

1820
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:46,600
Because I, my personal opinion is that we're probably not going to be able to afford out the secondary roads be at the same standard as the primary roads.

1821
02:26:47,460 --> 02:26:51,840
And again, this is an inch of this is getting into that level, and then a larger conversation about maintenance.

1822
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:52,240
Right.

1823
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:53,860
How do you keep it, how do you say that?

1824
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:54,420
Right.

1825
02:26:54,420 --> 02:26:59,620
right. And do you do this kind of sick with all that I think? Or do you try to

1826
02:26:59,620 --> 02:27:03,520
smooth it out with it? Yeah, concrete I think I mentioned to you we

1827
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:06,180
wouldn't want to spend the better part of the day and concrete.

1828
02:27:07,080 --> 02:27:10,840
I've heard about how they tackled this. So there's a lot of lessons

1829
02:27:10,840 --> 02:27:16,640
learned and John Vancouver is on contract to conquer for that project.

1830
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:23,380
So we'll get some insights there. So you'll have that data in time to submit.

1831
02:27:23,380 --> 02:27:31,680
an application we hope in time to submit an application to one, an update to capital

1832
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:32,560
flame.

1833
02:27:32,900 --> 02:27:35,060
I just want to know if anyone saw the card.

1834
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:36,760
Did you get reports of that?

1835
02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:38,260
I don't know.

1836
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:39,820
Did you get a picture of it?

1837
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:41,120
No, not that you've been.

1838
02:27:41,380 --> 02:27:41,560
I know.

1839
02:27:41,580 --> 02:27:42,400
Never saw it.

1840
02:27:42,500 --> 02:27:43,060
It's very disappointing.

1841
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:45,160
Get a night.

1842
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,320
And then, very briefly, select board policy manual.

1843
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:58,580
Thank you, Jennifer, and we'll come in who is a Lincoln resident, Ellis graduate, matriculating

1844
02:27:58,580 --> 02:28:05,320
sophomore, UMass, change was did in public policy, really enjoyed having well in the offices

1845
02:28:05,320 --> 02:28:06,140
in intern.

1846
02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:12,540
And he did a lot of the research looking at how other towns of the select boards are organizing

1847
02:28:12,540 --> 02:28:18,620
they are policy manuals. This is something that's been on the list literally for 30 years and you

1848
02:28:18,620 --> 02:28:26,800
just never able to codify everything. So no decision for the board to make tonight, not really

1849
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:34,280
looking for any feedback. But you saw that we put some of the introductory chapters, the drafts and

1850
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:40,940
the packet, to give you a sense of what the scope is going to be. And at Jennifer's suggestion,

1851
02:28:40,940 --> 02:28:48,720
I was grateful for it, the introductory section is going to include sort of a roadmap as to

1852
02:28:48,720 --> 02:28:55,780
how town government works on Lincoln, which is the prelude to the policy movement. So Jennifer

1853
02:28:55,780 --> 02:29:03,440
and I will be back, I'm sure more than once as the project proceeds. Community side are building

1854
02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:04,500
use policy,

1855
02:29:06,880 --> 02:29:11,980
so with the and Kim you can correct me if I'm a state and I think the latest

1856
02:29:11,980 --> 02:29:19,400
projected opening for the Community Center is February timeframe. I have a number 16.

1857
02:29:20,320 --> 02:29:24,000
Okay. We haven't got the update, but we know that there was concern that there was going to be

1858
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:31,180
pushed because there run rate on spend did not seem like a December open date. So you might have

1859
02:29:31,180 --> 02:29:40,760
to be information in the committee? Yeah and so in anticipation of that at a staff level what we've

1860
02:29:40,760 --> 02:29:48,340
been doing that number of meetings is trying to come up with a set of regulations and policies

1861
02:29:48,340 --> 02:29:55,980
for the building that make it as accommodating a place as it can be to different

1862
02:29:55,980 --> 02:29:59,860
town for individuals and

1863
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,220
Organizations, and trying to do it in a way that aligns to the sense that it makes sense with the

1864
02:30:08,220 --> 02:30:18,040
be-most policies and the school policies. And so we're hoping that we will have a good solid draft to bring back.

1865
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:27,840
It's going to start with CCBC. So CCBC is going to get a suggested draft probably in the next couple of weeks

1866
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:32,700
can and then we'll get some comments back and hope to be able to have a conversation with the

1867
02:30:32,700 --> 02:30:40,960
select board in October. So that we're ahead of the open. And you're with this so much excitement

1868
02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:46,500
and enthusiasm about the building. We want to make sure that this is not over the bureaucratic.

1869
02:30:47,080 --> 02:30:52,880
As the last thing I want to do is have my name on a set of policies that make it difficult for

1870
02:30:52,880 --> 02:30:59,060
people to use the building. So we're having some lively conversations that you might imagine about

1871
02:30:59,060 --> 02:31:04,480
whether school approaches to things are well-suited to what we're trying to do with the community

1872
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:12,500
center, what being us all. But the emphasis really wants to be on simplicity of use of the building

1873
02:31:13,260 --> 02:31:21,660
and making it available in a fair way to all of the groups who want to use the building. So we're

1874
02:31:21,660 --> 02:31:28,940
We're going to make sure that we get a lot of important CCBC, COA, PRAD, all the key stakeholder

1875
02:31:28,940 --> 02:31:31,200
groups and then bring that back to the board.

1876
02:31:32,020 --> 02:31:40,140
Another aspect of the community center, but this is kind of more broad, is Dan has been

1877
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:45,500
spearheading an effort to create a campus alcohol policy because you now have the potential

1878
02:31:45,500 --> 02:31:47,760
to have events both in the community center.

1879
02:31:48,580 --> 02:31:52,020
And we were creating a very small exception

1880
02:31:52,020 --> 02:31:57,000
for a nonprofit to have an event on the athletic fields,

1881
02:31:57,480 --> 02:31:58,500
probably in the back.

1882
02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:02,180
An event that had a large nonprofit of family and talent

1883
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:05,760
had an event here in peer-south,

1884
02:32:06,540 --> 02:32:08,560
but they always like October date.

1885
02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:11,540
October dates are very busy for peer-souths,

1886
02:32:11,540 --> 02:32:16,780
revenue, generating a possible event versus non-profit event.

1887
02:32:17,600 --> 02:32:20,600
So, possibly moving it to the campus.

1888
02:32:21,340 --> 02:32:23,320
So, this is right now just being discussed

1889
02:32:23,320 --> 02:32:26,200
by the school committee, who, obviously right now,

1890
02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:28,220
and in perpetuity, there's no alcohol

1891
02:32:28,220 --> 02:32:29,880
allowed in a school app.

1892
02:32:30,140 --> 02:32:30,940
Now, we've never changed.

1893
02:32:31,040 --> 02:32:33,340
And that would just be actually created as a public policy.

1894
02:32:34,020 --> 02:32:37,800
But creating policy in a specifically for the community center

1895
02:32:37,800 --> 02:32:40,000
and the guidelines around what that would look like

1896
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:43,120
for the community center and then create this narrow exception

1897
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:47,860
for possibly having that non-profit,

1898
02:32:48,600 --> 02:32:51,760
special permitted, all of the gates

1899
02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:54,180
that you would have to planer to have been on this,

1900
02:32:54,180 --> 02:32:56,280
I'd like to feel so with that.

1901
02:32:56,580 --> 02:32:57,860
So that's at school committee.

1902
02:32:58,300 --> 02:33:01,080
I don't know what other than a rule or what the thoughts are

1903
02:33:01,080 --> 02:33:02,320
on that, but they're just especially

1904
02:33:02,320 --> 02:33:04,520
and I believe tonight for the first time.

1905
02:33:04,700 --> 02:33:07,980
That would be non-profit or if it weren't down event,

1906
02:33:07,980 --> 02:33:13,860
sort of just because. Yeah, can you just have a special permit you have to

1907
02:33:13,860 --> 02:33:18,340
and license people. Yeah, it's very, very extensive, very extensive.

1908
02:33:18,960 --> 02:33:23,360
But we just know at this point there is an event that doesn't really have a

1909
02:33:23,360 --> 02:33:28,900
home that we would like to continue to see here in Lincoln, because I like to

1910
02:33:28,900 --> 02:33:31,700
book a year in advance and we just I think of your house as this

1911
02:33:31,700 --> 02:33:36,340
reticent to do that knowing how busy those weekends are or not to over. So that is

1912
02:33:36,340 --> 02:33:41,300
coming up, but that is, I believe that's the score to me, and I'm leaving.

1913
02:33:45,160 --> 02:33:49,140
All right, anything else on the community center use policy?

1914
02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:49,980
Nope.

1915
02:33:50,460 --> 02:33:51,320
Let's move on.

1916
02:33:51,540 --> 02:33:53,800
Next thing on the agenda is public participation.

1917
02:33:54,780 --> 02:33:57,320
So this is a chance for those of you on screen.

1918
02:33:57,340 --> 02:34:03,800
There's nobody else in the room, but on screen does anybody have a public comment that they would like to make?

1919
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:08,920
If so, please raise your virtual hand that we will unmute you.

1920
02:34:11,930 --> 02:34:12,310
Anybody,

1921
02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:19,830
I see no hands, let's continue.

1922
02:34:21,030 --> 02:34:23,450
On to our action item, the section of the meeting.

1923
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:28,030
First, we already voted on the property tax rates.

1924
02:34:28,250 --> 02:34:32,150
We already voted on the Energy Choice Program.

1925
02:34:33,290 --> 02:34:35,470
We already voted on social media policy.

1926
02:34:36,770 --> 02:34:44,450
So, the first one that we haven't acted on yet is the sorry already voted on Discover Lincoln.

1927
02:34:46,370 --> 02:34:51,790
When we hadn't done is the Historic Preservation Agreement for 32 to Howard Road.

1928
02:34:53,190 --> 02:34:55,590
Tim would you like to set that up for us? Sure.

1929
02:34:56,990 --> 02:35:03,570
So, the Historic Commission has been working with the owners of 32 to Howard Road.

1930
02:35:03,570 --> 02:35:12,190
They've done a terrific job if you have a chance to look at the document in confirming the

1931
02:35:12,190 --> 02:35:17,470
historic value of the property, the historic lineage of the property,

1932
02:35:19,530 --> 02:35:20,950
and ironed out, like

1933
02:35:20,950 --> 02:35:25,310
as you may know, we'll be back up a little bit, preservation agreements on voluntary.

1934
02:35:26,290 --> 02:35:32,930
And so it requires really sensitive and intricate work with the homeowner and the historic

1935
02:35:32,930 --> 02:35:35,030
commission has accomplished that.

1936
02:35:35,310 --> 02:35:42,290
We now have an execution copy of the agreement that the owners are happy with, but the historic

1937
02:35:42,290 --> 02:35:48,230
historical commission is happy with, and that town council has reviewed and approved

1938
02:35:48,230 --> 02:35:54,590
a great back and forth between Andrew on VF, the historical commission and town council

1939
02:35:54,590 --> 02:36:01,970
shorting out from details that allowed the town to accommodate the sellers'

1940
02:36:03,730 --> 02:36:06,490
skit for wanting to sell them appropriately.

1941
02:36:07,050 --> 02:36:11,590
Can I interject to this point and ask your question about KP laws letter?

1942
02:36:12,350 --> 02:36:14,590
Yeah, I'm going to take on this.

1943
02:36:16,030 --> 02:36:22,150
They said, I know that the properties currently subject to a mortgage, as you know,

1944
02:36:22,150 --> 02:36:27,430
of the mortgage e does not expressly consent to this agreement and subordinate to the agreement

1945
02:36:27,430 --> 02:36:30,850
for closure of the mortgage will terminate this agreement.

1946
02:36:32,170 --> 02:36:37,350
So that part of it, I think I understand and I don't think that's a big deal for us, right?

1947
02:36:37,450 --> 02:36:43,290
That basically means we don't get the conservation thing, but that's, you know, we didn't

1948
02:36:43,290 --> 02:36:44,630
have it before, right?

1949
02:36:45,430 --> 02:36:51,510
The next one, I don't understand and would love some explanation or some assurance that

1950
02:36:51,510 --> 02:36:57,990
not a big deal. While I understand the property is to be conveyed soon, note that the town

1951
02:36:57,990 --> 02:37:03,990
assumes the risk of foreclosure if the sale does not go through, and the consent is not obtained.

1952
02:37:04,990 --> 02:37:13,510
What does that mean? What risk do we have? So I think actually that I believe that

1953
02:37:13,510 --> 02:37:23,240
in us with sign today. Okay. Okay. That's it. We're signed again then it's all.

1954
02:37:24,730 --> 02:37:29,290
So that's a no loop point point. Okay. Great.

1955
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:36,900
And my understanding is that notarized copies are required for this.

1956
02:37:37,900 --> 02:37:40,920
Okay, so we can do it

1957
02:37:44,600 --> 02:37:44,600
again.

1958
02:37:44,880 --> 02:37:55,360
I have already been contacted about signing something for Andrew after it's done.

1959
02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:55,400
We're going to

1960
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:03,380
need you to tower record.

1961
02:38:04,620 --> 02:38:04,860
Second.

1962
02:38:05,580 --> 02:38:06,700
And a further discussion.

1963
02:38:07,760 --> 02:38:08,880
Let's do a roll call vote.

1964
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:09,680
But you're on.

1965
02:38:09,860 --> 02:38:10,340
Go outside.

1966
02:38:10,420 --> 02:38:11,180
First and so on.

1967
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:13,420
And are we executing now?

1968
02:38:13,900 --> 02:38:14,260
Yes.

1969
02:38:14,260 --> 02:38:16,180
There's the shared signature only.

1970
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:18,940
The power.

1971
02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:19,680
It don't.

1972
02:38:29,140 --> 02:38:29,540
Next.

1973
02:38:29,540 --> 02:38:29,680
Next.

1974
02:38:29,740 --> 02:38:30,480
Our agenda.

1975
02:38:30,740 --> 02:38:32,360
We have prior action items.

1976
02:38:32,380 --> 02:38:33,660
That we're doing in prior action.

1977
02:38:33,820 --> 02:38:34,360
We're doing a chase.

1978
02:38:36,100 --> 02:38:36,860
Everything done.

1979
02:38:37,220 --> 02:38:39,360
We want a couple of items or in-process.

1980
02:38:39,360 --> 02:38:40,100
Great.

1981
02:38:40,880 --> 02:38:42,380
I'm heart consentless tonight.

1982
02:38:43,120 --> 02:38:47,380
Did Peggy do everybody comment on the August 25 minutes?

1983
02:38:49,300 --> 02:38:50,520
It believes so, yes.

1984
02:38:51,140 --> 02:38:51,760
Okay, great.

1985
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:58,120
So our consent list is minutes of August 25th, warrants for the 8th of September.

1986
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:05,460
And is the confirmed meeting schedule set really part of the consent list?

1987
02:39:06,200 --> 02:39:07,480
I can take it off a few.

1988
02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:13,500
perform. I think it's okay. I just do that. You may have any problems with it.

1989
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:18,900
So you can accept all of it and I'm going to leave. Okay. I'm going to leave from a proof

1990
02:39:18,900 --> 02:39:27,040
it can set list as as as as get a second. A discussion. Let's do a vote.

1991
02:39:27,420 --> 02:39:32,880
Bye, everyone. Bye, aside. Questions of I. And then finally, we had some correspondence from various

1992
02:39:32,880 --> 02:39:40,840
people keep you all on zoning back changes and VTA advisory board update, a metropolitan planning

1993
02:39:40,840 --> 02:39:47,760
organization election process, codman farms, restructuring, metropolitan planning, organization

1994
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:55,440
nomination process and hands-confield advisory committee suggested ICE protocols. Did anybody

1995
02:39:55,440 --> 02:40:00,860
want to talk about any of those items? The only thing I'll mention is the KPM law that was hosted

1996
02:40:00,860 --> 02:40:06,940
by the planning board, Kudos to Jennifer Parker who gave us a heads-up about it, who then

1997
02:40:06,940 --> 02:40:10,820
let us know when the minutes were out, and then she let us know when the video I couldn't

1998
02:40:10,820 --> 02:40:16,760
make it live, but I was able to watch it days later, and it's helpful for her to let me know

1999
02:40:16,760 --> 02:40:22,540
when the video was available. So I appreciate it that kind of really, really good presentation

2000
02:40:22,540 --> 02:40:24,180
I can't keep you locked.

2001
02:40:24,740 --> 02:40:25,960
Very good watch.

2002
02:40:26,760 --> 02:40:26,800
Right.

2003
02:40:27,820 --> 02:40:30,900
Any other comments about any of the correspondence?

2004
02:40:31,900 --> 02:40:32,280
No.

2005
02:40:32,980 --> 02:40:33,220
Yes.

2006
02:40:33,320 --> 02:40:33,580
Great.

2007
02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:36,980
I would entertain a motion draw.

2008
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:38,020
Is there any other business?

2009
02:40:38,520 --> 02:40:38,940
Yes.

2010
02:40:40,460 --> 02:40:41,720
I have something.

2011
02:40:42,960 --> 02:40:43,300
All right.

2012
02:40:44,220 --> 02:40:44,900
So,

2013
02:40:45,660 --> 02:40:49,540
the chair of the Lincoln Cultural Council has

2014
02:40:49,540 --> 02:40:58,480
has four new appointees, they would like to get approved tonight if that would be possible.

2015
02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:13,580
I can run down who they are and first one is Cheryl Rogers, she will be finishing her term

2016
02:41:13,580 --> 02:41:23,260
would be two years which is left on the seat that she'll be taking. Sally Kindleberger, who is

2017
02:41:23,900 --> 02:41:31,660
who will be finishing two years left of former chair, Meg Ramsay's seat, who had to step off

2018
02:41:31,660 --> 02:41:46,940
to time constraints on the charge and Shah Carson, who is finishing two years left of

2019
02:41:46,940 --> 02:42:10,280
Chris Lotion's term who also had to step down due to being on too long for their charge and Tom Flint, who will be filling a three year term for a seat spend long bacon and that's it.

2020
02:42:13,160 --> 02:42:22,620
I thought I knew of another person who applied to be one, was a duty.

2021
02:42:23,860 --> 02:42:29,660
No, but so I guess my question is were there more applicants than positions?

2022
02:42:32,080 --> 02:42:40,900
They can have up from five to 22 members, and right now they're at 12,

2023
02:42:45,170 --> 02:42:50,250
so I know that there's another person that

2024
02:42:50,250 --> 02:42:59,590
Solana wanted to speak with, and the four that are proposed tonight, they've already

2025
02:43:01,330 --> 02:43:09,150
spoken with her and have participated in meetings, etc. So they wanted to go ahead and get

2026
02:43:09,150 --> 02:43:17,650
them on the council. There will be more. She's she's really going to town on advertising.

2027
02:43:17,650 --> 02:43:21,730
All right. All right, you'll make a motion.

2028
02:43:22,830 --> 02:43:26,310
Then we approve Cheryl Rogers, Sally Hingelberger,

2029
02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:30,970
Shaw Carson and Tom Flint as new members of Lincoln Cultural Council.

2030
02:43:31,670 --> 02:43:32,390
At point.

2031
02:43:32,790 --> 02:43:35,230
Pointed as members of Lincoln Cultural Council.

2032
02:43:37,570 --> 02:43:38,150
Need discretion.

2033
02:43:39,350 --> 02:43:39,910
The vote.

2034
02:43:40,470 --> 02:43:40,490
background.

2035
02:43:41,090 --> 02:43:41,310
Last slide.

2036
02:43:41,390 --> 02:43:41,610
Thanks.

2037
02:43:42,530 --> 02:43:43,430
Thank you.

2038
02:43:43,830 --> 02:43:45,150
Thank you, baby. Anything else?

2039
02:43:45,730 --> 02:43:46,910
That's it for me.

2040
02:43:46,910 --> 02:43:50,270
rate all of entertainment motions we've turned now.

2041
02:43:50,590 --> 02:43:54,170
Thank you.

2042
02:43:54,410 --> 02:43:54,910
Any discussion?

2043
02:43:55,570 --> 02:43:56,110
Let's vote?

2044
02:43:56,310 --> 02:43:56,730
I'm Ryan.

2045
02:43:57,150 --> 02:43:57,570
Last time.

2046
02:43:57,890 --> 02:43:58,710
Question some aye.

2047
02:43:58,830 --> 02:43:59,730
Thank you all.

2048
02:43:59,930 --> 02:44:00,090
All right.

2049
02:44:00,330 --> 02:44:01,490
Good night everybody.

2050
02:44:01,830 --> 02:44:02,230
Aye.

2051
02:44:03,370 --> 02:44:04,330
Thank you, Scott.

2052
02:44:05,550 --> 02:44:06,070
Please come around.

2053
02:44:08,460 --> 02:44:08,700
Well.