1 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,240 our meeting to order and ask you to join 2 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,320 me in the pledge of allegiance. I can 3 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,710 get through this wire. 4 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,360 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 5 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,840 United States of America and to the 6 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:04,720 republic for which it stands, one nation 7 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,600 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 8 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:21,749 justice for all. Thank you. 9 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:23,919 public forum 10 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:27,160 commissioner updates. 11 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Any we want to probably start with any 12 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,080 comment from the public because we have 13 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,960 some public members here. Do we have we 14 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,600 have someone from the public? Did you 15 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,280 want to come up? Step right up. Can you 16 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,240 show us if you'd like to drink? Yeah. 17 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,639 I won't bite. I promise. Or maybe we can 18 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:50,469 slide one of these around. 19 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:53,550 Here 20 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,639 I Good morning. Good morning, gentlemen. 21 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:58,880 I'm Deb Elliot and I hail from our 22 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,560 beautiful little town of Breeman. 23 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,199 Um, uh, Robert Bob Conland is with me 24 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,160 here. Um, and I live in West Cassid. 25 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,039 friend of dips. That's right. And um 26 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:14,720 we're here to just ask and and Would you 27 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,560 speak up, please? Yes, sir. We're here 28 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,270 to just ask about 29 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,360 um working with the federal agents and 30 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,680 ICE on immigration. That is our that is 31 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,319 our concern today is immigration and the 32 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,880 policies. Um, I did talk to Carrie and 33 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,800 so I have the lowdown, but I wanted to 34 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,520 be here in person, uh, face to face and 35 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,759 so, you know, you can say anything you 36 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:39,759 want on the phone or whatever, but 37 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,400 FaceTime, you know, is is important to 38 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,160 me. So, um I um I understand the 39 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,160 sheriff's department is not um on as 40 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,599 their normal duty going and picking up 41 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:58,560 immigrants, but I'm concerned that it 42 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,280 might be in the 43 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 future. 44 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,720 Um so that's that's why I'm here. And I 45 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,120 know uh Robert has a few questions as 46 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,960 well. 47 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Yeah. Um, I just wanted to add on to 48 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,759 that just I think you know we were 49 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:17,680 asking more or less about the difference 50 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 between um will the uh Ling County 51 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Sheriff's Office for example honored 52 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,120 administrative warrant from ICE or will 53 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,240 it be judicial warrant that stuff we're 54 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,759 recording 55 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:32,159 so that's so I I wanted to we wanted to 56 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,000 just kind of differentiate you know what 57 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,159 if there if there is written policy by 58 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:39,360 the county um and who writes the policy 59 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,200 who decides the policy is it the 60 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,959 sheriff's office? Is it the county 61 00:08:43,959 --> 00:08:46,640 administration? And then uh and then 62 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,000 will there be uh a distinction between 63 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,080 honoring a judicial warrant or an 64 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,160 administrative warrant from ICE uh in 65 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,320 regards to 66 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,959 detaining individuals. That was one that 67 00:08:58,959 --> 00:09:00,959 was a followup on Debs. The other thing 68 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:02,320 that I wanted to ask in the bigger 69 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,560 picture was uh you know we're down on 70 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,120 the bridge here in Wisconsin and often 71 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,080 times in Newcastle ter peacefully 72 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,640 protesting as as everybody knows we're 73 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,480 entitled to do. 74 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Um and there was an executive order 75 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 signed by the president on April 28th 76 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 about uh using having the military be uh 77 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,160 available to assist local law 78 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,560 enforcement. Um that was on April 28th. 79 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:30,560 uh and and it could be enacted in 90 80 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,240 days. So by July 28th of this year, uh 81 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,160 that could be a you know that could be a possib that could be a a real thing 82 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,560 happening here in this county. And it it 83 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:46,800 you know, this is my reading on it is it feels like a a very intimidating 84 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,800 thing for people uh who are standing out 85 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,560 on the bridge peacefully protesting that 86 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,959 to think that the military might be 87 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:54,800 available to be up there to quell 88 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,800 something like a peaceful demonstration. 89 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Um, we want to know what the local law 90 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,399 enforcement here in this county will do uh to serve and protect 91 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:08,600 us on the bridge and 92 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,279 elsewhere. Um, and and whether there's 93 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:15,230 going to be any policy 94 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,160 um for that. I'm getting a little shaky 95 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,240 just talking about it because this is 96 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,600 America. We shouldn't have to ask these 97 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,279 questions, but we are because we have 98 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:24,279 to. 99 00:10:24,279 --> 00:10:27,680 So, that's it. in this this audience. 100 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,240 Yep. 101 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,640 You're smiling, sir. Well, I was just 102 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,120 thinking of many many years ago when I 103 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,440 was in the 104 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,360 military, we had no authority with 105 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,560 civilians. Yeah. Right. So, and I 106 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:47,720 suspect suspect that it may still hold 107 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,000 true. Just because someone does it 108 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 doesn't makes a writes his name on a 109 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,720 paper. It doesn't necessarily make it 110 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,320 law. Well, it's not someone though. It's 111 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,720 the president of the United States. He 112 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,600 is a citizen. Well, he's not acting like 113 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,920 one. Well, I we won't Let's not debate 114 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,760 that. So, I know we we'll stay out of 115 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,079 the politics, but I I think uh a lot of 116 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:10,800 these executive orders are so far in the 117 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,200 reading of a lot of people who have 118 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,880 legal background that I don't have are 119 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,079 unlawful, but they're still being 120 00:11:16,079 --> 00:11:17,600 enacted. 121 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,000 So this 122 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,680 one and and by the way, it also that 123 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:28,000 same executive order also it promises any law enforcement who who 124 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,160 are sued for any actions they that take 125 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,880 place as a result of 126 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,160 that. Maybe you know hitting somebody 127 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,360 when they're not supposed to, for 128 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 example. um that they'll have proono 129 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,640 legal legal help, legal assistance 130 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,519 proono from the government, which is 131 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:45,200 sort of a dog whistle to say, "Hey, if 132 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,640 you want to beat up some protesters, go 133 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,839 ahead cuz we'll we'll we'll pay for it." 134 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:51,279 That's in the executive order. That's 135 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:52,519 written for a 136 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:54,839 reason. That's why we're 137 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:57,279 here. So, I don't believe that will 138 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:01,120 happen here. I have big faith in our 139 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,519 sheriff's department, in our in our town 140 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:07,000 departments, uh, police departments, and 141 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,639 um, but still that holds true that it 142 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,120 Yeah. could happen. And we're here to 143 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,160 try to possibly prevent something like 144 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,160 that. We're here to speak about um our 145 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,079 cons our concerns. you know, we are 146 00:12:23,079 --> 00:12:25,440 concerned, you know, uh because there's 147 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,200 some some bad players that um could 148 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,600 infiltrate our peaceful protest and 149 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,320 cause a whole bunch 150 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,880 of shenanigans going on. And 151 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,120 um we don't want our peaceful protest to 152 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,000 be knocked down so that we can't have 153 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,000 them. Um, and so if if there's any kind 154 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,920 of violence, even if somebody else 155 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,360 instigates it against one of us or, you 156 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,040 know, even one of us against the gate, 157 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,880 who knows, right? We're not going to do 158 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,880 that, but you never know. People are 159 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,800 people, right? So that would shut down 160 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,040 our peaceful protests. And um I I know 161 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,519 it's Damar Dammerscotta Police 162 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,800 Department that would possibly um come 163 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,160 through on our bridge. to go through the 164 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,079 Reny's parking lot because we did have 165 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:21,519 one of our protesters um accosted in the 166 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:23,600 Reny's parking lot when he was leaving. 167 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,200 He had a flag um and a gentleman came 168 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,360 out and started just screaming at him 169 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,079 right in his face about you know blah blah blah blah blah right it was 170 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:38,320 against what we're doing and um I mean 171 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,639 it didn't get violent but it makes me 172 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,120 you know the more 173 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,920 afraid they are the more afraid they are 174 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,200 and fear can cause um really bad actions 175 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,240 And so, um, that's what we're we want to 176 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,000 be able to protect ourselves. We want to 177 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,440 be able to stand out there and say, 178 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,399 "Hey, you know, we're here, you know, 179 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:06,440 save our libraries." None of us have any 180 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,279 FTD, right? Um, FDT, whatever, um, 181 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:14,320 signs. None of us. It's save the food 182 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,040 pantries, is save the libraries, save 183 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,760 the post offices. 184 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,000 You know, I'm in little old Breamman old 185 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 800 people and we have a little tiny 186 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,600 post office and um if it ends up I'm a 187 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760 treasurer secretary of my little HOA so 188 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,519 I have to go to the post office box all 189 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,680 the time and pick up checks and dues and 190 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,920 bills and such. So if they end up 191 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,079 shutting that down then now I have to go 192 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:43,279 to Dammerscotta or Waldboroough for my 193 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:46,560 mail. And um you our gentleman that's a 194 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,360 postmaster Lance he is a veteran 195 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,320 disabled veteran and he's the postmaster 196 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,120 and if that closes down all of a sudden 197 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,360 he loses his job. So anyway I'm sorry I 198 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,880 digress. But what I'm trying to say is we're not out there screaming at 199 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,839 people. We're we're unified. I don't 200 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:09,519 know if you've come through and seen us. 201 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:12,399 You probably have. Um we're smiling and 202 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:14,600 waving. We're 203 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,600 joyful, you 204 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,279 know. We just want to make sure 205 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:21,519 everybody knows, you know, the the 206 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:22,920 things that are going on in our 207 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,560 community, you know, that's that's what 208 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,720 we're, you know, food security, you 209 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,600 know, all these things that 210 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,680 taking money, federal money away from 211 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 the poorest people. And we have a lot of 212 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,560 poor people, right? Um, in in Breamman, 213 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,399 there's a lot of older ladies that have 214 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,199 never worked and they're widows and 215 00:15:45,199 --> 00:15:46,720 they're sitting in their houses that are 216 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,279 falling in around them and they're 217 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,959 living on 800 bucks a month, social 218 00:15:51,959 --> 00:15:54,800 security, you know, um, how are they 219 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,440 going to live if any of that's taken 220 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,160 away, you know, and u main care if 221 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,000 that's taken away, what about all the I 222 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,279 think 70% I believe or 60% of the folks 223 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,320 that are in assisted living homes uh are 224 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,920 on main care and 225 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,240 um if they take that away, where where 226 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,800 are they going to 227 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,480 go? Are their kids ready to take them in 228 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,720 and take care of 229 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,320 them? 230 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Um these are just the community 231 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,160 concerns, okay? We're not trying to take 232 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,279 over anything like that. We're just 233 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:33,360 trying to get out there and show, you 234 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,079 know, that we're there and we stand for 235 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:38,199 everybody no matter what side of the 236 00:16:38,199 --> 00:16:42,040 fence yarn they're on, you know. 237 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,759 So anyway, it's just and and and you 238 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,040 know, we just wonder if um you know, 239 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,160 it'd be possible um to just cruise by 240 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,240 our protests, cruise through the Reny's 241 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,720 parking lot. You know what I mean? a 242 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,199 couple times. We're on the bridge um on 243 00:16:59,199 --> 00:17:01,600 Wednesdays 11 to noon. We're only out 244 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,199 there 1 hour. So it, you know, I 245 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:06,319 probably need to talk to the 246 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,160 Dammerscotta Police Department about 247 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,559 that. 248 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:12,559 But just a simple cruise through so that 249 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:15,039 everybody knows there's there's 250 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:18,240 somebody, you know, um our public 251 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,520 servants, um looking out for us and just 252 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,280 having a presence, you know, it's like 253 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,360 having having a police car on the side 254 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,520 of the road in a driveway and everybody 255 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,000 slows down. Oh You know, um it's 256 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,200 just that presence, right, that does 257 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,720 that. 258 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,799 So, I'm sorry going on so much. I'm just 259 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:42,160 so passionate about this stuff and I'm concerned for us, for our people, 260 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,360 for the poorest of the poor. 261 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:49,600 We haven't had any any u request from 262 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,080 ICE for any change and there would be 263 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,520 some discussion if that came up, I'm 264 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,240 sure. And what you folks are doing is 265 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,760 the American way of of being going out 266 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,720 and the ability to go out and to to show 267 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,760 your feelings protesting or supporting 268 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,000 whatever 269 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,480 position. We should have continue as the 270 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,000 American way for doing that. Yeah. So we 271 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 appreciate you coming in and it's 272 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,320 important that people be able to express 273 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,640 themselves. Yeah. I I just wanted to add 274 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,600 before I before we leave that I 275 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,440 personally like Deb also believe that 276 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,919 you know our local law enforcement is 277 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:31,280 you know they're a great bunch of 278 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,760 people. So it's not that it's not that I 279 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,600 have any fear that anybody in this local 280 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,679 law law enforcement is going to do 281 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:39,039 anything that they shouldn't be doing. 282 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:40,880 Um I think they do serve and protect the 283 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,320 community. I just think that uh if 284 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,039 there's pressure from 285 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:49,120 above, you know, asking or demanding or 286 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:52,160 whatever that something be done, um that 287 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,760 you know, maybe there should be some 288 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 policy. Maybe the the people in the 289 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,240 community ought to know how, you know, 290 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,679 our local law enforcement is going to 291 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:01,600 respond to that kind of pressure if it 292 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,080 comes down the pike. And that executive 293 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,840 order that I talked about, I think is 294 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:06,760 designed 295 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:13,840 to, you know, scare people like us from going out on the street. Um, you 296 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,840 can only read it that way. Like you can, 297 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,919 you know, it's out there for a reason. 298 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:19,200 It was signed for a reason. It was 299 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,120 written for a reason. It was written the 300 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:24,480 way it was for a reason. And uh, and so 301 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,760 it's coming July 29th. We, you know, so 302 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,840 we, you know, I think everybody should 303 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 at least be aware of it. Yeah. and to 304 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,280 know that we're all out there for the 305 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,080 right reasons. We're not advocating the 306 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,640 overthrow of the government. We're just 307 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,400 like Deb said, we're out there for the 308 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,840 right reasons. Well, thank you for 309 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,919 everybody. Thank you for coming in. I I 310 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:46,559 think you're responding as citizens are 311 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:49,039 able to and historically have have been 312 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:52,000 able to. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. 313 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,480 so much for taking the time to hear us out and for your uh genuine 314 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,240 concern. We seriously appreciate that, 315 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,799 sir. So, we're going to step out, make 316 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:05,840 room for other seats, and uh we'll hang 317 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,679 out in the hall for a few. Thank you. 318 00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:09,360 for coming. Appreciate it. 319 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:20,350 Yeah. 320 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:23,039 Well, the minutes of the meeting of is 321 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:24,559 there anyone else who wanted to speak? I 322 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,320 don't want to. 323 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Do we want to do a quick the quick 324 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 updates portion? 325 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,559 We have uh the minutes of the April 15th 326 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:35,039 meeting. Bill, I think u Evan has an 327 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:36,799 update. 328 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:38,799 Oh, you do. I'm sorry. We added in 329 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:40,720 commissioner updates. Well, I sort of 330 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,039 backed him up to the Oh, gotcha. public 331 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,679 first. So, well, anyway, I'll give a 332 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:47,200 quick rundown of what I've been working 333 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,720 on. Um, so I'm the county rep for the 334 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Coastal County's workforce board. 335 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,760 There's three workforce boards in the 336 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,000 state and the Coastal County's workforce 337 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720 board um has three county commissioners 338 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,200 from each of the excuse me, six county 339 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,320 commissioners on their board of 340 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,039 directors. Um been attending those 341 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:08,000 meetings and previous to my involvement 342 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,240 we had one business on the business 343 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,000 board of the meeting which was 344 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,840 Transworld Business Adviserss which I 345 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,360 believe is some sort of franchise group. 346 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:19,120 Um myself and Alex Zaparo went to their 347 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,320 business meeting and we invited the HR 348 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,880 director from Big Low Labs who is now 349 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,159 going to join as one of the business 350 00:21:26,159 --> 00:21:28,080 reps on the Coastal County's workforce 351 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,919 board. So that's good. We're getting 352 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,240 more Lincoln County representation 353 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,559 there. And then sitting on 354 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:37,840 the regional planning commission board 355 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,240 of directors, we've gotten two new reps 356 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,320 from Dresden. We previously had none at 357 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,919 the beginning of this year and looks 358 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:45,280 like next week we'll have one from 359 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,360 Edgecom. So we've got four or five towns 360 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,600 with no representation yet, but 361 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,200 hopefully we'll in the coming months 362 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,360 have all the slots filled or at least 363 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,159 one slot from each town filled. So those 364 00:21:56,159 --> 00:22:00,320 are my updates. Evan, what's CCWI? 365 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Yeah. Yeah, that's so Coastal County's 366 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Workforce Board is the board of 367 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,799 directors and then Coastal County's 368 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,159 Workforce Incorporated is how they 369 00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:09,679 operate for the rest of their grant 370 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:11,120 stuff. So they've got a business section 371 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,600 and then they've got a legal section and 372 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,840 we have one representative on we have 373 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,159 one representative for the work for the 374 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:21,440 CEO board. Okay. So York, Cumberland, 375 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,840 Sag Hawk, Lincoln, Knox, and Waldo. 376 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,440 That's what makes up that board. So they 377 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,960 deal with a lot of grants from the 378 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,760 federal department of labor and that's 379 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,400 their programming. And you meet once a 380 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,240 month with them or every other every 381 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,520 other month. Thanks. and and and we 382 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,760 determine that as opposed to there's 383 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,440 been struggles in the past for the state 384 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,679 to handle to take over the money. Yep. 385 00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:48,120 Correct. 386 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,880 Okay. Anything anyone else? Well, I can 387 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,720 just tell you I serve as your 388 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,480 representative on the MCCA board, the 389 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600 county commissioners association, and uh 390 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,440 um the biggest thing that I've been 391 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,200 involved with them is they're relooking 392 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,280 at their bylaws to make sure it's 393 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,559 modernized um to uh the way we're 394 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:12,960 functioning nowadays. The MCCA also has 395 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,120 in a um legislative committee and I know 396 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,480 they've been reviewing a lot of bills 397 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,159 and there was a call to action today on 398 00:23:21,159 --> 00:23:25,200 one bill. Um I didn't focus on that yet 399 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,000 to see what the issue was, but there's 400 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,760 that out there. Um so um that's about it 401 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,600 for that. 402 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,110 Cool. 403 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,240 not wanting to leave anyone else out in 404 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,200 the universe. Is there anyone else? No, 405 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,480 I I think those are commissioner 406 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,320 updates. So, that just leaves you. So, 407 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,559 if you had anything to update, right? I 408 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:50,799 don't have anything more to say. Okay, 409 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:52,799 great. Then, now we'd like to have the 410 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,039 minutes approved. Move to approve the 411 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,240 minutes of April 15th. Second. Any 412 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,280 discussion? All in favor? I. Three to 413 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,120 zero in favor. Thank you. 414 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,880 Well, now we're getting now in finance. 415 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Good morning. Before you have VP warrant 416 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,909 number 51 in the sum of 417 00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:16,480 $23,8125. Um the largest portion of this 418 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,080 was our monthly um health insurance bill 419 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,080 for May. Uh we also had some other u 420 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,640 routine monthly maintenance bills for 421 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,559 our cruisers. 422 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:30,159 uh installation of equipment for a 423 00:24:30,159 --> 00:24:33,200 cruiser and our case management uh 424 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,919 services with main pre-trial. So the 425 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:38,559 hillside was more than one vehicle. 426 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:40,640 Correct. It's it's two months worth of 427 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,120 vehicle maintenance is what that is. So 428 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,640 we have a program where they go there 429 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,480 monthly to be checked out or something. 430 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,279 Correct. They go when needed. Yeah. When 431 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:53,120 needed. Yeah. Okay. 432 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,120 Do we want to take these as a package or 433 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,279 individually? Let's take one at a time. 434 00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:58,960 I move we approve accounts payable 435 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,039 warrant number 51. 436 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,120 Second. Moved and seconded. Any other 437 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,159 questions? All in favor? I. Three to 438 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,960 zero in favor. Move to approve accounts 439 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,039 payable warrant number 53. 440 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,279 Second. Well, would you like to explain 441 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:17,039 it? 442 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:21,039 Uh, well, it's $221,82.69. 443 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,080 Uh 444 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,279 $21,736 of this is for the monthly jail 445 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,679 assessment. Um so 90% of this went to 446 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,159 the jail for their operations. That was 447 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:35,679 mainly is the SAGE hawk contribution 448 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:37,080 similar 449 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,320 or how how is that assessment? Slightly 450 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,799 higher. Slightly higher. And is it uh 451 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,679 done by jail count or what is it? How is 452 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:48,000 that determined? So our number is based 453 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,799 on the tax cap that was in statute prior 454 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,679 to the last revision. Okay. So our cap 455 00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:56,960 was at $2.4 million. We divide it by 12. 456 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,200 We send them a payment monthly. Okay. 457 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,159 Any other questions? All in favor? I I 458 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:06,640 three to zero in favor. Now the final 459 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,320 one. Um now we're moving on to payroll. 460 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,360 Yes. 461 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,039 uh before use payroll number eight in 462 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:16,510 the sum of 463 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,200 $285,9854. Um this payroll is slightly 464 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,440 higher than typical because we had the 465 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,840 uh payouts for the retirement of Bobby 466 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,440 Robinson uh a 39y year 39 years 39year 467 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,760 dispatcher earned every penny. Amen. 468 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Okay, that's it primarily for that one. 469 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Was there a motion? Move to approve 470 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,520 payroll warrant 2025-8. 471 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Second. All in favor? I I. Three to zero 472 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,559 in favor. 473 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,799 Uh payroll number nine for the year in 474 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:54,269 the sum of 475 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,880 $277,697.36. Uh pretty typical payroll. 476 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600 We're seeing an increase in overtime. Uh 477 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,200 that's as the influx of um visitors 478 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159 increases, call volumes increase. Um 479 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:07,600 many of our staff are starting to take 480 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,520 time off as the weather gets nicer, so 481 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,200 we're having to do field shifts. Um so 482 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,640 as you can see here, this is the first 483 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,880 time that we have uh gone over a 112th 484 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,080 budget or 126 budget for an overtime 485 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,440 figure. Um that's mainly driven by the 486 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000 comm center overtime. 487 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,480 uh right now when you break down 488 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,320 personnel as a whole within that 489 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,880 department it is 6 and a half% under the 490 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,679 expectations. So it's not a huge concern 491 00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:42,000 right now but based on the current 492 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,159 consumption it will be a problem in 493 00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:46,559 September. So this is something that 494 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,320 we're going to want to keep an eye on 495 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,360 and visit and make sure is managed. 496 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,760 And is it one particular area where the 497 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,720 overtime is being spent in the comm 498 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,279 center right now? So that they 499 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,399 primarily the uh sheriffs. No, they 500 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:07,039 their consumption is only about $24,000. 501 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,360 Usually that's that and the 502 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,279 communications are the big ones. Oh 503 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,360 yeah. Or the big or the big contributing 504 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,960 factors of what the overtime budget is. 505 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,080 Yes. Is there a motion? Move to approve 506 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,440 payroll warrant 25 2025-9. 507 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,360 Second move seconded. Any other 508 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,640 comments? All in favor? I. Three to zero 509 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:35,870 in 510 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,279 favor. Let's put this over here. 511 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,279 I haven't figured out yet how to make it 512 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:48,070 so put your name. Oh, that's fine. 513 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Should I print it too so people can read 514 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,269 it? 515 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:55,279 just looks clear with your name. Yes, 516 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:56,440 it certainly 517 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,279 does. And I just don't want to take the 518 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:05,830 data for it. Yes. 519 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:16,070 Is this okay? No. 520 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,909 Fast and furious. What the f? 521 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:25,470 This is the cheapest. Oops. 522 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,039 Sorry. Thank you so much. 523 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,240 Not CIA yet 524 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,080 anyway. National intelligence. No, it's 525 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,240 good. I like whatever Ham left me in the 526 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240 drawer. Something borrowed and something 527 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,200 new. There might be one from the Queen 528 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,880 Mary. 529 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,200 the ship. Yes, I'll look 530 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,110 for that later. 531 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,799 Michelle, you would bring from your 532 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,440 crew. All I could afford was the 533 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,990 brochure. 534 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,919 Okay. The sheriff's department. 535 00:29:59,919 --> 00:30:04,789 Michelle's not done. 536 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:08,720 Stick to the script. It's not done yet. 537 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,039 So, the document Carrie sent you 538 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,600 yesterday is our plan document to bring 539 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,919 the paid family medical leave inhouse. 540 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:22,159 What that translates to is we will 541 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:24,720 self-fund and self-administer the 542 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 program, which means we no longer send 543 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,480 the money to the state. We can self-fund 544 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,880 this through our payroll process as we 545 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640 are now once we build up um a reserve 546 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,880 balance. We will no longer have to 547 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,960 process this through payroll, which is a 548 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,559 benefit to the employees because right 549 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,799 now this is a taxable fringe benefit to 550 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,200 them. 551 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Um, this is a draft still still working 552 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,880 on it. 553 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Um, I have gone through the process of 554 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,919 getting a quote for a shity bond. That's 555 00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:00,159 part of the process. We're looking at 556 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:03,360 about $2,100 a year to maintain that. I 557 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640 expect that number to 558 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480 be I I expect that to be flat for the 559 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,320 next 3 years based on our payroll 560 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880 consumption and what this rate is. 561 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,840 Um I at this point will need 562 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,080 approval to submit the application to 563 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,360 the state of Maine once we are finished 564 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,240 with that document. 565 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Are these form sort of plans? Is there 566 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520 has the state put out any guidance on 567 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,640 what should be submitted and Yeah, kind 568 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,679 of. Kind of. Yeah. So, they put out a 569 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:44,320 template of um they they put some loose 570 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,880 language out and an expectation of 571 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,399 definitions for the plan document. Um 572 00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:53,600 their formatting is a little clunky. I 573 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320 think that's the best way to explain it. 574 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,559 Um, but it does allow for us to tailor 575 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,240 it how we prefer to run the plan. Their 576 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,559 only requirement is we can't be more 577 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,200 restrictive than what they've set up in 578 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,360 the law. Um, so far we're meeting their 579 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,640 requirements or actually exceeding. So 580 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200 if approved, the money stays in our bank 581 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,320 account. So correct. Okay. And how would 582 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,360 that be managed in a separate 583 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240 um just accounting issue or would it be 584 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640 in a separate bank account or whatever 585 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,120 protected because 586 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,679 it's related to the employment or or 587 00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:37,600 it's employee funds wouldn't it be at 588 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,880 that or no? Um like withholding like 589 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,440 taxes is it? So it's not a withholding. 590 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,039 It's a it's an employer match. So it's 591 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:48,159 not employee funds at this point. So, it 592 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:50,720 would be housed in the same general fund 593 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200 checking account that we have. Um, which 594 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200 will help with our cash flow. It'll be 595 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,159 an accounting process which will be held 596 00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:01,200 in a reserve account separate. Um, I can 597 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,519 allocate interest to it each month or 598 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,919 annually, however we choose to do that 599 00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:10,399 modified approval process. And the other 600 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:12,480 factor of that is it allows us to have 601 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,200 more control of the volume of 602 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,320 contribution. So, we're required to do 603 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,240 1% of wages, 604 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,120 but if we have a sufficient amount of 605 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200 reserve funds, we don't have to continue 606 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,320 to fund that, which will help maintain 607 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,240 our our our um tax rate. We're not So, 608 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,559 is there an annual cap or is it a cap 609 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,720 based on number of employees once we 610 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,919 have that reserve? 611 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,000 There's no hard cap. It's going to be 612 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,960 based on consumption. Yeah. Um the way 613 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,279 we do our reviewed annually is right and 614 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,840 the way we do our budget our our 615 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,120 positions are budgeted at 100% already. 616 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,840 So the consumption of that reserve is 617 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,880 going to be driven 618 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,240 by the additional costs of having to 619 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,320 backfill shifts when somebody is out on 620 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,280 paid leave 621 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,639 versus paying that person while they're 622 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:15,679 out because it's already budgeted. the financial burden of the maintenance 623 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,839 of the policy is not going to be 624 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:20,879 significant for us compared to a a 625 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:23,839 regular business. So, this method is 626 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:25,520 should be beneficial to the county 627 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,240 financially. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. 628 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,159 We're looking we're looking right now at 629 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,119 sending somewhere between 56 and $60,000 630 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:36,240 a year to the state. And then on top of 631 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,720 that, the state gets to determine 632 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:41,760 whether or not an employee is eligible, 633 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,560 whether or not what tier they fit in 634 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,560 within their payment scale. Um, it takes 635 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,800 any control that the county has to 636 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,679 assist this employee with paid family 637 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,919 medical leave out of our hands. Would it 638 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:59,040 make claims faster? Absolutely. Okay. It 639 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,800 would be all administered in house. And 640 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,079 then um the front page here uh indicates 641 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,079 that the expiration date will be based 642 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,680 on the approval letter. Do you 643 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,520 anticipate that we'll have to be 644 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,359 renewing every year or every three 645 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:13,280 years? So once your plan document is 646 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,960 approved by the state, it's in effect 647 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,680 for three years unless you violate that 648 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,240 plan document and the state revokes it. 649 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,200 Okay, great. What action would you like? 650 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,599 move to approve um the um uh allow the 651 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,920 treasurer to submit the application for 652 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,880 the main paid family medical leave act 653 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,800 for a self-insured private paying 654 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,280 seconded move and seconded. Any other 655 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,359 comments? All in favor? I I three to 656 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:43,440 zero in favor. Knock yourself out. Yeah, 657 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,400 have fun. I had fun geeking out on that 658 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,839 documentary. We can tell when everybody 659 00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:49,000 else is falling 660 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,720 asleep by the way. Self insurance. Oh, 661 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,920 thank you, Michelle. 662 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,119 Good morning. Good morning, Morning, 663 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,310 Sheriff. 664 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,920 Mr. Chair, if it's okay, I thought I'd 665 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,000 start by just following up to the public 666 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,839 comment that we had a little bit earlier 667 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:10,079 just to shed some light on some steps 668 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,440 that we've taken already at the 669 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000 sheriff's office. Uh uh Deb asked very 670 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,839 pointedly I think about ad or uh uh the 671 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:20,240 gentleman wither um asked pretty 672 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,160 poignantly about uh administrative 673 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,839 warrants and things like that. Right. So 674 00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:26,560 in our national database a national 675 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,280 crime information center NCIC we call it 676 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,160 uh it's a it's a not to go into a lot of 677 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,839 detail it's a computer system maintained 678 00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:35,440 by the federal government by you know 679 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,560 through the through the FBI and uh um 680 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000 that that houses warrants nationally. um 681 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,920 and other missing person's information 682 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,400 and federal probation and all kinds of 683 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,960 uh information um that's very specific 684 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,560 on how it can be entered and there are a 685 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,119 lot of rules uh around that. Um and 686 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,079 that's where information is housed on uh 687 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,640 these administrative warrants for ICE uh 688 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,880 or border patrol or whatever immigration 689 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,400 nationalization 690 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,240 uh situations or essentially two types 691 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,000 of entries that they can put there. One 692 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,280 is called a a deported felon, one is 693 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,960 called an administrative warrant. Right? 694 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,880 So, we did we did receive communication 695 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,560 from the Department of Homeland 696 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,000 Security. I think every law enforcement 697 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,960 agency in the state did giz probably 6 698 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,359 months ago, maybe not quite that long 699 00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:23,040 ago. Shortly after the change in 700 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440 administration, um we're only into May, 701 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,040 so it was probably only 5 months ago, 702 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,079 four or five months ago. Um seems like 703 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,960 forever. I'll leave it at that. Um but 704 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,599 anyway uh um uh asking uh us to uh to 705 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:39,680 enforce administrative warrants um 706 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,839 should we come across them and how to 707 00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:45,320 enter an into an agreement um with ICE 708 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,359 uh uh under federal law etc etc etc. I 709 00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:51,200 chose not to do that. In fact instructed 710 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,440 my staff uh via memorandum which uh 711 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,680 which is 712 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,119 policy that we're not going to take any 713 00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,320 stance on administrative warrants. 714 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,320 They're not our concern. That's not our 715 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,839 jurisdiction. We don't have I don't have 716 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:04,400 any authority to enforce federal law of 717 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:10,640 any kind. Um so that that that memo has been in 718 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,960 place. Uh you know, we we will enforce 719 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,560 deported felon warrants. Those are 720 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,800 felony warrants. Um like any other 721 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,599 criminal felony warrant um that's uh 722 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,680 that's that's in the system, you know, 723 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,880 should we come across those. Um you 724 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200 know, so uh we we've already taken a a 725 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,040 stance on that. I have no me personally 726 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,599 I have no intention at this point uh to change that. Um we work very closely 727 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,440 um I think in a positive way with uh 728 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,240 Border Patrol here in Maine. We uh uh 729 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,320 Border Patrol has a number of resident 730 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,560 agents they call them that really work 731 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,880 away from the border. Um when I say a 732 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,640 number, there's like eight or 10 from 733 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,200 Eastport toky. Um so they're stretched 734 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,640 pretty thin. A couple of them happen to 735 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,400 live right here in Lincoln County. uh 736 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,760 one here in Wisconsin and one down in 737 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,079 Boute. Um so we work closely with them 738 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,119 uh you know should should we have 739 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,240 situations uh arise where we have 740 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,800 deported felons and whatnot. Uh uh 741 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,880 they've been quick to uh help us with 742 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040 that when they can. We're finding more 743 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,480 and more that they're busier and busier 744 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,800 and less available uh to help us. I 745 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,240 think it's the nature of the of the 746 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,640 beast uh as it goes on. If that's the 747 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,640 case, we're just going to let people go 748 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,480 if we don't have any other reason within 749 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,760 Main Law. um to um to uh you know detain 750 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,760 them for some criminal matter. Right. So 751 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,520 we're not into detaining folks and um 752 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,680 again it's not it's not my it's not my 753 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160 bailey way. Right. You do have judicial 754 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,119 warrants though they've also asked about 755 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:46,079 and those are required for right when I talk about deported felons those 756 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,720 are those are judicial warrants. Yep. Um 757 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,880 so uh yes 758 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,640 um we would we will we will enforce 759 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,839 those um you know if if uh if we come 760 00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:59,280 across those are felony warrants. Those are 761 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,800 serious warrants. You know we had a we 762 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,240 had a situation here not too long ago 763 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,079 where gentleman was stopped. It was a 764 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:05,760 little high-speed chase. Guy went up in 765 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,880 a tree. You probably read about it in 766 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,720 the paper here in Wisconsin. It was a 767 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,040 Wisconsin case. But there's a case of a 768 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,880 person who who may have been in the 769 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,000 country illegally but had active felony 770 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,920 warrants from other states. you know 771 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,760 what I mean? Um, the fact that this 772 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960 person was uh uh potentially uh here 773 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,119 illegally had really very little to do 774 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,359 with with our response and the warrants 775 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:29,200 that were in the database and and things 776 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,720 like that. And we and that's fairly 777 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,000 common uh for us uh in in dealing with 778 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,440 those those situations, but they're 779 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,880 signed by a judge, correct? Or Oh, yeah. 780 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,800 There's judicial process, right? Federal 781 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,599 warrants. Yes. Some are state warrants. 782 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,119 In this case, there were there was there 783 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,040 were uh felony warrants for robbery of 784 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,359 burglary out of Ohio, Illinois, one of 785 00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:56,000 the o one of those states. Um in the Midwest there uh um in that in 786 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,240 that particular scenario 787 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,520 um you know, another you know uh people 788 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,440 are on edge and I think it's clear from 789 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,680 listening to uh to Deb's comments that people are on edge and uh they're 790 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,720 concerned um and it creates concern for 791 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,800 us. We support I'm a constitutional 792 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,520 officer as you know and uh we take that 793 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,960 very seriously and people's right to 794 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,760 gather peacefully um and do that and we 795 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,440 you know um um so we have and we'll 796 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,119 continue to work with the Damascana 797 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:26,800 police and other local agencies to make 798 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,880 sure that those happen safely and 799 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,960 securely. We try to stay out of it, 800 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,440 right? Um uh sometimes our presence 801 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,079 isn't always welcome um or or can make 802 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,160 matters worse depending on how how we 803 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,680 approach the situation. And I think the 804 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,119 most important part for us, and I would 805 00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,920 encourage Deb and um others who are 806 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,440 gathering like that, the more 807 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,640 communication they can have with us 808 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,720 ahead of time, the better we can make a 809 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,200 plan and work with them um to make sure 810 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,240 that things stay as uh as peaceful 811 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,599 as as we can. God bless America. There 812 00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:59,440 are there are at least two sets of 813 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,839 opinions. Um and folks are just as 814 00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:04,160 passionate about uh the opposite side of 815 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,400 uh of the opinion as others. Um, and 816 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,160 they're they're welcome to express that 817 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,079 even loudly um and in your face um as 818 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:13,599 long as they're not violating the law or 819 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:14,720 otherwise. And that's can be 820 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:16,880 uncomfortable, can be intimidating. Um, 821 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,720 but there's sometimes often times not a 822 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,400 lot we can do about peaceful expression 823 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400 of your 824 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,520 um of your uh opinions, no matter how 825 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,960 aggressive it may appear or or feel or 826 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040 um so and that's that's that's difficult 827 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,720 for folks to understand sometimes. 828 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:38,400 There's a balance there for us. Um, and 829 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,119 we we try to work that. Do we know uh 830 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,079 when ICE brings um a detainee to two 831 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,079 bridges what they've been charged with 832 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:49,200 or We do. Okay. Yeah. Um so does that 833 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,560 make a difference or whether or not they 834 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,920 actually get housed there temporarily or 835 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,960 it does. Yes. Um so if uh my 836 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,720 understanding that that Two Bridges 837 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,160 won't accept anybody on administrative 838 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,720 warrants either. Um, and anybody that's 839 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,640 being housed at two bridges, uh, which 840 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,319 are not typically, I don't think there's 841 00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:07,599 any of the ones that are there from ICE 842 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,200 that were actually a case here in 843 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,359 Lincoln County, a majority of them came 844 00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:12,960 from other parts of the state or even 845 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,760 other parts of New England. Um, and 846 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,760 they're all they all have criminal 847 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,839 charges, okay, uh, pending. Um, so, um, 848 00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:23,839 but I I you know, that that's that's a 849 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:26,240 question probably more for Colonel 850 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,920 Bailey, but that's my understanding as a 851 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,000 member of the jail authority. uh uh the 852 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,839 way things are are going are going with 853 00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:34,000 that. Okay. Um so we're going to monitor 854 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,760 the situation carefully. You know, one 855 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,280 of the things that I'd like to do as as 856 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,079 you know, I I you probably know I I 857 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,079 almost two years ago I formed a citizens 858 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:43,520 advisory committee to the sheriff, 859 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,440 right? Group of citizens who volunteered 860 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,760 to come forward, kind of uh take a look 861 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,200 at what we do. I'm trying to be 862 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,680 transparent, two-way communications, an 863 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,000 extra another step for me to communicate 864 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,680 with the people that we serve to figure 865 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000 out how we're doing. Um been a lot of 866 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,040 discussion at our uh CAC meetings about 867 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,400 immigration um as you can 868 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,640 imagine. Um and we're we're we're we're 869 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,000 planning to hold a a public forum along 870 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,200 that uh to talk about that to talk about 871 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,119 where we are, what we're doing, that 872 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,440 kind of thing. I'll certainly keep the board uh apprised of that. I'm going 873 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,640 to try to get some of our federal 874 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,200 partners if they're willing um to come 875 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,640 and uh and talk about uh you know more more clearly define perhaps what 876 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,440 Border Patrol's role is for example um 877 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,520 as a as in their resident agent program 878 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,800 and what they're doing um if that will 879 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,440 help folks understand uh what they're uh why you may be seeing 880 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480 more border patrol folks around. Um and 881 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,839 that was an initiative really that's 882 00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:48,079 been going on for a couple of years now. 883 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:50,079 That's not necessarily there may have 884 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:51,920 been some internal policy changes since 885 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560 the change in administration um and uh 886 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,520 in January, but uh but the Border Patrol 887 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:58,800 presence has been with us for a number 888 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,160 of years now. They've had the resident 889 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,920 agent program 890 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,839 um you know in effect for for quite a 891 00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:07,000 while. 892 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,680 So it's not it's on my radar very much 893 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,880 so. Um and uh you know I'm I'm glad that 894 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,680 uh that uh that these folks took time to 895 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,520 come in and share their concerns. I I 896 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,800 want them to know that it's it's 897 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440 foremost on our radar screen, if you 898 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480 will. Um, and we're uh we're trying to 899 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,160 be very open-minded as we approach it 900 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,079 and stay focused on what our real 901 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,880 function is, right? And and and my real 902 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,800 function is public safety, right? And um 903 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,240 to me uh my stance is and and the way 904 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,520 I've uh tried to uh address it with my 905 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,839 staff is that our that that's our 906 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,599 primary function is keeping people safe 907 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,599 here in Lincoln County. If we encounter 908 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,680 someone who's a felon, I don't care 909 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,680 where what country they're from. If 910 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,240 they're a danger to to the citizens here 911 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:55,440 in Lincoln County, we're going to take 912 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,520 action on that as long as we're able to 913 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,040 within the law. 914 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,280 um the fact that they happen to be from 915 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,599 a foreign country is irrelevant to me at 916 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,280 that point. You know, we we we have a 917 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,920 job to do and that that is is to promote 918 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,119 public safety and we're going we're 919 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,040 going to continue to do that. That 920 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680 haven't been said. We're not looking. 921 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,839 That's not my job. Right. Have the 922 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:17,040 protesters been working with the 923 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,400 sheriff's department to make sure that 924 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,119 there's a safe protest and Yeah. Any any 925 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:22,240 I I don't I don't want to call them 926 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:23,680 protest, right? I mean, you call them 927 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,880 whatever you want. Call them gatherings, 928 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,960 call them vigils, call them protest. um 929 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,720 peace peaceful assemblies. Peaceful 930 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:32,560 assemblies, right? Yeah. So, um so, uh 931 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,480 yes and no. Okay. Right. So, uh we've 932 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,920 had a lot of communication especially 933 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,440 when there's something planned ahead of 934 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,440 time. Uh you know, there was a few 935 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,839 months back uh again, I'm I lose track 936 00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:49,440 of time. There was a launching at BW. It prompted some some uh gatherings both 937 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,440 in Bath and over here in West Cassid. We 938 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160 planned ahead for that. Um, and listen, 939 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,480 I have, it's interesting because we work 940 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,000 closely with the Wisconsin police, with 941 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,079 the state police in preparation for that 942 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,680 because it was really injunction 943 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,520 conjunction with a with a protest that 944 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,560 was going on in BA at BIW where several 945 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,680 people were arrested um for obstructing 946 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,760 a public way. Um, so we were prepared 947 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,280 for that. We were working with local law 948 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,040 enforcement 949 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,640 um on that. We didn't have any issues 950 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,720 over here. Uh, we were prepared in the 951 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,760 event that we did. Um but uh but but we 952 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,800 didn't. Um and those folks were somewhat 953 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,280 communicative. Mhm. Sometimes not so 954 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,040 communicative. Our our local folks who 955 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,400 have been gathered, they usually let us 956 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960 know. Um you know, and uh if they have a 957 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,280 special event going on, almost always 958 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,319 they reach out to us um to try to 959 00:47:37,319 --> 00:47:41,440 communicate. Um but you know, those events are pretty hard for them to 960 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,960 control, I suspect. Right. You never 961 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,520 know who's going to show up with either 962 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,079 uh more passionate opinions or opposing 963 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,079 opinions and they can be, you know, but 964 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:51,680 communication ahead of time. We try to 965 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,200 reach out if we know who's sponsoring 966 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,440 those events. Um just try to keep that 967 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,200 communication going so we can be as 968 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,960 prepared as we can. What would it be a 969 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,920 best practice for those organizations to 970 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,720 contact you too or any local law 971 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,560 enforcement agency just to just to keep 972 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,440 us you know apprised of the situation 973 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,960 and um you know and so on. So, okay, 974 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,319 that helps. Thank you. That's really 975 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:16,359 helpful. That's all right. No 976 00:48:16,359 --> 00:48:18,440 problem. 977 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,720 Um, looks like our jail count this 978 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,440 morning, Mr. Chair, out at two bridges 979 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,040 is 980 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,680 173. We have 21 31 from Saget Hog, 23 981 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,559 from Knox, 51 down from Ponobscot, 21 982 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:33,520 from Waldo. Four federal inmates and uh 983 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,839 which are US Marshall inmates, and 22 984 00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:39,839 from uh from ICE. Uh today, 142 of those 985 00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:40,960 are pre-trial. Well, you can see the 986 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,190 numbers 987 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,400 there. Do I have any questions on the 988 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,920 count? The next item I have on the 989 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,520 agenda is uh is a recommendation to uh 990 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,720 make a uh conditional offer of 991 00:48:53,720 --> 00:49:03,920 employment uh to Brandon. I'm going to probably uh uh mutilate his last name. I think it's uh I don't I 992 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,880 don't know. Muba, maybe. 993 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,040 I don't know. Machuba. Machuba. You want 994 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,920 to spell it? M A C I U B A. That's 995 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,280 assuming that the chief spelled it 996 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,760 right. 997 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,280 Yep. Sorry, I didn't see it there. 998 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,800 That's okay. Yeah, my tech 999 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,640 Brennan comes to us with uh a 1000 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960 significant amount of experience uh uh 1001 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,160 in New York. Um and uh we look forward 1002 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,319 to the opportunity to get him a waiver, 1003 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,000 training waiver because he was a 1004 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,359 full-time certified officer out of 1005 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:36,559 state. We can get him a waiver here in 1006 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,480 Maine hopefully. um which will save us 1007 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,839 having to send him off to the academy 1008 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:41,079 for 18 1009 00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:43,599 weeks. Um but there are still some uh 1010 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:44,960 some hoops to jump through as far as 1011 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,640 background and things like that go. So 1012 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,599 looking for your approval um to move 1013 00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,319 forward with with Brandon conditional 1014 00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:53,920 move to approve the hiring authorization 1015 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,040 for Brandon Mashuba. Second move and 1016 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,400 seconded. Any other comments? Just a a 1017 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,040 question on where does that put your 1018 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,839 patrol division with this hire? Is it 1019 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:07,760 are you fully staffed at that point or 1020 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,920 is it you still need more? I I think 1021 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,240 that will leave us one down. I think 1022 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,960 that leaves one vacancy to work in 1023 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,599 patrol. Well, I'll see if I can fit in 1024 00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:20,160 my schedule, right? 1025 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,599 I think that leaves I'm over the age 1026 00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,559 limit, I think, no, you're really 1027 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:26,559 pulling me in. Yeah, we have a motion. 1028 00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,839 All in favor? I I three to zero in 1029 00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:32,240 favor. 1030 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,160 Next, uh, the next item I have is a 1031 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,839 payment authorization. Uh, this is a 1032 00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:38,240 budgeted payment for two new vehicles, 1033 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,880 uh, from, uh, two new, uh, excuse me, 1034 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,760 three new Dodge 1035 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,870 Durangos. 1036 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,349 Um, in the amount of 1037 00:50:52,359 --> 00:50:55,040 $113,273. It's a budgeted amount for for 1038 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,589 replacement uh, vehicles. 1039 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,359 Is there a motion? Move to approve 1040 00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:03,440 payment authorization key Newcastle 1041 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,079 $113,273. 1042 00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,559 Second. Kenny any questions? I have some 1043 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,319 information to add. So, we generally use 1044 00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:15,440 the bid process, but we received 1045 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,280 information from U Key Chrysler that the 1046 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,960 prices were going up May 1st. And in 1047 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,880 order to take advantage of the lower 1048 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,079 price that was pre-incre, I reached out 1049 00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,480 to Commissioner Blahett for approval to 1050 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,359 go outside of the bid process to secure 1051 00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:37,079 these vehicles. Uh, our historic most 1052 00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,520 recent cruisers that we've purchased 1053 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,920 have been in the low to mid40 range and 1054 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,880 the price per vehicle on these was about 1055 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,559 38,000. So, it was already less than 1056 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,960 what we were anticipating for last 1057 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,520 year's prices. And with the bid openings 1058 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,480 happen happening after May 1st, our 1059 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,880 concern is that the prices that come in 1060 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,800 with these bids would be higher than the 1061 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,720 amount we would be able to secure 1062 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,920 through this opportunity. 1063 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,000 Thank you. And then we have to outfit 1064 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,160 them once you have them. Oh yes, that's 1065 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,040 the purchase and that cost is pretty 1066 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,040 except for uh two out of those three 1067 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,960 vehicles are going to be replacing Dodge 1068 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,800 for Dodge. They're already dodge 1069 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,359 triangles and what I'm told from the 1070 00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:25,680 installer is that equipment should 1071 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,559 transfer. So, it actually will save us 1072 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,440 some money. If we had gone to Fords, we 1073 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,920 would have had to buy um new equipment. 1074 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,240 So, two out of those three vehicles, the 1075 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,480 equipment should transfer. So, there 1076 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,000 should be some savings on that side, 1077 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,680 too. But inevitably, Commissioner, 1078 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,920 there's something either the the siren 1079 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,160 box doesn't fit or so there will be some 1080 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,920 new equipment, but it should be reduced. 1081 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,400 Yes. Great. Thank you. Any 1082 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,319 other comments, questions? All in favor 1083 00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:55,040 of the motion? I I three to zero in 1084 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,680 favor. Thank you. Uh the chief has uh an 1085 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,079 update on uh some of the fraud activity 1086 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:01,839 that's going around uh that you know 1087 00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:03,040 that we've been experiencing here in 1088 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,640 Lincoln County for the last couple 1089 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,640 years. Yeah. Just briefly, I know I know 1090 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,160 in a previous meeting I told you I was 1091 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,160 going to sort of make this a quarterly 1092 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,760 or or every 3 or 4 months uh event just 1093 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,079 simply to uh because our media partners 1094 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:19,760 were here and Brad LCTV is here. Um 1095 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,119 because uh the sheriff and I were 1096 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,280 talking about this on the way over the 1097 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,440 investigations that we do and I think we 1098 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,640 do um significant to track some of these 1099 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,400 fraud events down almost always end up 1100 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,800 outside our country. Um so the 1101 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,040 likelihood we're going to recover or 1102 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,280 locate the the offending person 1103 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,000 um almost always ends on a dead end. So 1104 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,280 really the the the real best u option 1105 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,599 here is education prevention ahead of 1106 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,960 time. So my point to that is uh to bring 1107 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,040 some information out so the public hears 1108 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,640 about it. So if they're if they're 1109 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,400 approached by one of these scammers or 1110 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,359 they have an issue to before they do 1111 00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:02,960 something, before they go buy something, 1112 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,040 before they transfer money to reach out 1113 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,960 to law enforcement, a trusted friend, 1114 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,920 somebody to say if it's too good to be 1115 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,599 true, it probably is true. Um, so I just 1116 00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,800 I I just uh you know, so for rough 1117 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,960 numbers, in 2023, 1118 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,680 um, we recorded over 1119 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,520 $290,000 in loft lost money here in 1120 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,040 Lincoln County. Um, in 2024 that was 1121 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,400 $450,000 plus in lost money from fraud. 1122 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,960 Um, some of that I think is uh just 1123 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,680 better reporting, re better reporting, 1124 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,359 uh, more encouragement for people to 1125 00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:41,119 report. One of the things I told you at 1126 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,119 your last meeting, if we if we're 1127 00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:46,640 getting 450 or 290,000 reported, how 1128 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,640 many people aren't reporting it because 1129 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,480 they're either embarrassed and and they 1130 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,240 just don't want to deal with with what 1131 00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:54,640 they look at as shame. Uh we we 1132 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,720 encourage you to report that. We'll try 1133 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,680 to mitigate try to to to reduce the the 1134 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,920 harm as quickly as we can. Currently 1135 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,119 through uh April, that number is at 1136 00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,119 $78,000 1137 00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,440 um lost. And you know, and I just wanted 1138 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,920 to highlight a couple quick couple cases 1139 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,839 so that people understand um you know, 1140 00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:20,960 um in uh we had $1,500 uh from a 1141 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,720 contractor scam. Somebody says, "I'm 1142 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,240 coming to do work at your house. I'm 1143 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:25,480 paying 1144 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,800 $1,500 and they never come back." Um 1145 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,319 there's things we can do in Maine. 1146 00:55:30,319 --> 00:55:32,960 Maine's law requires a contract before 1147 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,200 you begin business. If your contractor 1148 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,280 shows up and to do work and they don't 1149 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,960 want to sign a contract, you don't want 1150 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,760 to do business with them. Um uh and and 1151 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,599 that's that those that's an example of a 1152 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:49,040 scam. Um we had a a local business where 1153 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,760 their credit cards were hacked um in 1154 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,559 excess of 1155 00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:56,480 $8,000. Um and we're still working on 1156 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,240 that to see see where that's coming 1157 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:02,400 from. Um we have a um one of the more 1158 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,119 common scams that seems to be increasing 1159 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:09,079 is uh this one totaled uh uh over over 1160 00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:12,880 $18,000 where uh the victim gets a call 1161 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,720 um they get a voice that someone 1162 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:16,960 identifying as a granddaughter says 1163 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,559 they've been in a crash and they need 1164 00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,920 money for bail and conveniently the bail 1165 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,440 commissioner will show up at the house 1166 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,760 which is really brazant, right? Most of 1167 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,760 the stuff we've had in the past is is 1168 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,680 stuff stealing money, sending money or 1169 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,119 whatever. But for someone actually to 1170 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:34,400 show up at a house, um that person was 1171 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,960 out 1172 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,680 $18,000. Um the the next one was another 1173 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,960 grand granddaughter. Uh um and and these 1174 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,680 people um will will keep going to the 1175 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,640 well and co until it goes dry. This was 1176 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,319 back in February where um the the total 1177 00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:55,599 reached $45,000 in bail money before we 1178 00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:58,559 got involved in it. Um and and that was 1179 00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:00,559 a case where they they would uh instead 1180 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:01,920 of them coming to the house, they had 1181 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,520 them going and meeting them at different 1182 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,920 places around the mid coast. 1183 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,440 Um cryptocurrency and we talked about 1184 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,880 that last time. Um somebody's account 1185 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,839 was hacked. They were on 2041, Um, and these 1186 00:57:18,839 --> 00:57:21,520 are another one where somebody got 1187 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,440 notified. Again, if it's too good to be 1188 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,599 true, it probably is. Someone was 1189 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,240 notified they won an award for $90,000 1190 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,640 from the Donald Trump grant. I'm not 1191 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,720 sure what that is, but all they had to 1192 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,599 do was pay 3,000 now to collect money. 1193 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,160 Um, and they paid uh 1194 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,480 $2,558. So, they're out close to 3,000. 1195 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,720 Um, if anytime if anybody is asking you 1196 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,920 to pay with gift cards for anything 1197 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,680 other than you're buying a gift for a 1198 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,359 friend, it's a scam. Um, if someone's 1199 00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:58,319 asking you to transfer money, bitcoins, 1200 00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:00,799 if it's a if it's a government agency 1201 00:58:00,799 --> 00:58:02,720 trying to collect money for bail to 1202 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,119 avoid your arrest warrant, um, we've had 1203 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,359 some, uh, recently where people have, 1204 00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:10,880 uh, um, you know, using state databases, 1205 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,880 reached out to sex offenders, telling 1206 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,200 them, um, you know, there's warrants for 1207 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,599 your arrest, um, identifying them as us. 1208 00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,760 You need to pay this amount of money or 1209 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,040 we're going to we're going to come 1210 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,480 arrest you. Um and and and some of these 1211 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,400 people have contacted us. Who knows who 1212 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,799 hasn't? Um so we're just going to keep 1213 00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:31,200 bringing this this this issue out. Don't 1214 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,799 really need any action from you. I just 1215 00:58:32,799 --> 00:58:34,559 uh want the community to be aware of it. 1216 00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:36,319 Understand that if if something seems 1217 00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:38,160 too good to be true. If someone's trying 1218 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,520 to get you to do something urgently. Um 1219 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,359 it's probably a scam. You have to make a 1220 00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,359 decision now. Right now, there's 1221 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:49,119 probably something that's fishy. It's okay. we are getting more 1222 00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,319 communication from um businesses and and 1223 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,799 banks um where people may be going to 1224 00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:56,319 draw money out. So, I think that they're 1225 00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:58,480 starting to get on top of this thing um 1226 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,319 and and they're probably preventing 1227 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:01,599 stuff that we don't even know about. 1228 00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:02,880 Someone goes to the bank, they're 1229 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,240 saying, "Hey, I think you you may be 1230 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,680 getting scammed." Sometimes we get 1231 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,920 called, sometimes we don't. Um, but if 1232 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760 you if you know a friend, a loved one, 1233 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,520 somebody you care about, somebody you 1234 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,880 don't even care about, if you hear that that you know they're they're 1235 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,720 involved in something. We have we have 1236 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,280 the dreaded romance scams, right? Where 1237 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,240 somebody meets somebody online um and 1238 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,839 they may be lonely and may looking for a 1239 00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:27,760 friend, they're paying them money uh to keep their life up and maybe come 1240 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,839 visit them and they they'll just keep 1241 00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:31,680 draining them until they finally, you 1242 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,000 know, the relationship ends. So, uh 1243 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,440 we'll keep updating you. um and passing 1244 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,960 it on, but it's really all going to vote 1245 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,280 about communication and education. 1246 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,520 Thank you. Thank you. I think the last 1247 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,440 item we have this morning is opening of 1248 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,240 bids, I think, for what is the last new 1249 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,520 vehicle purchase for this year. 1250 00:59:53,520 --> 01:00:01,789 We hope. We 1251 01:00:01,799 --> 01:00:05,119 hope I guess 1252 01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:09,000 around here. You know the road you 1253 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,680 ride to your alley? Well, I think we 1254 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,200 received two bids. Is that right, Ken? 1255 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,079 Two bids. Two bids. Identify. These two 1256 01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:19,359 bids are for These two bids are to uh 1257 01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:21,359 for another new uh vehicle to replace 1258 01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:23,920 one of our vehicles. I think it's C. No, 1259 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,440 this is a patrol vehicle. Patrol 1260 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,760 vehicle. The three vehicles we just 1261 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,319 purchased. Two are patrol supervisor 1262 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:32,640 cars and one of them is a C vehicle. 1263 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,440 David, would you identify 1264 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,520 I will try. Let me see if So, this is a 1265 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,520 this will be a full uh this will be a 1266 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,520 marked unit, right? So, yeah. 1267 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,520 Were there any other um requirements for 1268 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,599 the bid submitters to make sure they 1269 01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:51,200 cover? 1270 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,440 Yes, 1271 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,680 we open give them out and then give it 1272 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,640 to the sheriff. Okay. To let me just 1273 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,920 check this. 1274 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,000 Uh, this one is from Ford. Dalins Ford 1275 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,069 in Bangor. 1276 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:11,920 How much, 1277 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:20,750 if I'm reading the number right, it's 1278 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,280 45 40. Oops, I'm sorry. Not 45. I wish 1279 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,640 it was 1280 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,069 45. 4880. 1281 01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:33,440 That's a little higher than the other 1282 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,040 one. 1283 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,880 That 38 sounds pretty good right now, 1284 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,720 doesn't it? 1285 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,799 So that we'll give it to the sheriff. 1286 01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:44,160 We'll have a table it and then they'll 1287 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,680 You want me to read these? If you would, 1288 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,680 please. Two from Cork Auto Group. The 1289 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,680 first for a detective SUV. We've 1290 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,960 got with these specs in pen, 1291 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,839 $44,928. And then for a 1292 01:01:58,839 --> 01:02:02,079 supervisor vehicle with these specs, 1293 01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:07,270 $45,520. 1294 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,799 So could we have a patrol? That's what 1295 01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:13,040 uh that's the first second one I read. 1296 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:18,559 Yep. 45520 patrol and supervisor spec. 1297 01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:21,640 So if we could uh just table it for now, 1298 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,880 please motion to table. So moved. 1299 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,839 Second. All in favor? I I So, 1300 01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:32,960 okay. Now, so you we'll take a look. 1301 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,520 Sure. Yes, we'll take take a look for 1302 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,040 you, Commissioner, and uh and come back 1303 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,000 when you have your recommendations. 1304 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,599 Yeah. 1305 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,599 You have three minutes to do that. All 1306 01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:47,520 right. I'll be right on it. 1307 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,920 Yeah. Really? 1308 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,640 Bring back Amazon gift cards. Yeah. See, 1309 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,079 now you're paying for that vacation, 1310 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:55,520 right? When you come back, let's get it 1311 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,520 done. Thank you very much. I appreciate 1312 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,950 it. Thank you. 1313 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,760 Okay, I have the other 1314 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:15,710 one. What they do with 1315 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,720 it? Fancy. 1316 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:24,799 Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Hello. 1317 01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:26,720 You're all right. 1318 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,000 It's all right. I'm going to flip our 1319 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,160 agenda topics because I want to do the 1320 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,599 less exciting one first. We'll do a lead 1321 01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:38,720 up. Um so we have before you two ask 1322 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,400 purchase orders for ask grant 1323 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,119 dispersement of funds. So this is our um 1324 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,039 annual assistance with specific knowhow 1325 01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:48,480 grant that the RPC has been awarding for 1326 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,680 a number of years now. Um, in the last 1327 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,760 budget cycle, we were able to increase 1328 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,480 the award amount um and the total amount 1329 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,880 to be able to award um up to five $5,000 1330 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,520 grants to communities in Lincoln County. 1331 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,319 Um, this is the first year in a while at 1332 01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:07,839 least, I think at least since Laura and 1333 01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:09,680 I have been here where we had more 1334 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,760 applications than funding, which was 1335 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,760 excited to see, but also talks about the 1336 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,559 need from communities. Um, and so we 1337 01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:18,960 awarded a total of five. The first two 1338 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,119 towns have signed their ask grant 1339 01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:22,960 agreement letter which I'm why I'm here 1340 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,640 with you today and I'll be back 1341 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,400 hopefully on the 20th with the remaining 1342 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,880 three. Um so the first is the town of 1343 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,319 Breamman. The broadband committee for 1344 01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:34,240 the town of Freeman with support from 1345 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,960 the select board um applied and was 1346 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,799 awarded an ask grant in the amount of 1347 01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:41,520 $5,000 to engage a consultant to analyze 1348 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,760 their internet for all program with the 1349 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680 goal of being able to provide permanent 1350 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,440 program solutions to the town and 1351 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,280 residents needs for widespread internet 1352 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,599 access. Um and the consultant that they 1353 01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:52,960 will engage is going to provide a 1354 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,520 costbenefit analysis of the program to 1355 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,200 see how it can move forward. And 1356 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,480 essentially what the town is looking to 1357 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,319 do is cover the costs of internet to all 1358 01:05:02,319 --> 01:05:05,440 residents in Greenman. Um trying to 1359 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,599 create uh true digital equity is what 1360 01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:10,000 they put in their application. So I am 1361 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,079 here um today to ask for approval to on 1362 01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:15,839 the purchase authorization request to 1363 01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:17,680 issue the ask grant to the town of 1364 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,119 Breamman. 1365 01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:22,079 So, wasn't the um and Evan, you may 1366 01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:26,400 know, didn't Tidewater already commit to 1367 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,240 reaching every home in Breeman? That was 1368 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,720 one of the first towns that I would say 1369 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,880 that their definition of reaching a home 1370 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,720 and our definition of reaching them 1371 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,559 might be different. So, where they might 1372 01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:38,920 say there is access may require a 1373 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,839 substantial fee to get hooked up. A few 1374 01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:45,200 homes are really out in the bully ways. 1375 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,200 That's like another way to put it. Yeah. 1376 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,119 And the town has asked for that to just 1377 01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,680 truly make sure everybody has access. 1378 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,200 Yes. Move to approve the payment 1379 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,960 authorizations to Breeman in the amount 1380 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,440 of $5,000. Seconded. Move and seconded. 1381 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,160 All in favor? I. I. Breeman's approved. 1382 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,240 Thank you. So, the second purchase 1383 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,400 authorization request is to award the 1384 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,160 town of Walder their $5,000 ask grant. 1385 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,480 um to assist with a yellowbook appraisal 1386 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,440 review for the former Sylvvenia site um 1387 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,280 which is necessary for the town to then 1388 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,119 be able to pursue future funding, 1389 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,280 especially federal funding, uh to 1390 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,960 repurpose the site into an outdoor 1391 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,960 recreation complex. So, what they'll use 1392 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,000 this $5,000 for is bring someone on to 1393 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,960 do that appraisal um and then submit it 1394 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,000 to um the appropriate agencies at the 1395 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,760 state level to then move forward and 1396 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,760 hopefully access um land and water 1397 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,440 conservation funds as well as possible 1398 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,680 other federal funding. They have support 1399 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,240 for the project from the um former land 1400 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,880 owner as well as the public and they've 1401 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,240 had conversations with EPA D um who are 1402 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,240 all on board. So this is um a investment 1403 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,400 in continuing to get that project moving 1404 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,559 ahead so that they can access greater 1405 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,880 funds to actually implement turning the 1406 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,960 former Selenia site into the outdoor 1407 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,480 recreation complex that they have 1408 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,960 envisioned. You mentioned Yellowbook. 1409 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,079 What's that? So, my understanding is 1410 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,799 that they had an agreement um and a 1411 01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:21,039 former land and water conservation grant 1412 01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:23,599 for tennis courts at the former AD Grey 1413 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,440 School. And those are supposed to remain 1414 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,119 in perpetuity, but obviously that's 1415 01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:30,160 being changed. And so, they need to um 1416 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,400 correct their error, if you will. And 1417 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,160 this appraisal is part of that to show 1418 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,680 that what they'll be creating at the 1419 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,000 Sylvania site is in comparison to what 1420 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,440 was at AD Grey with the tennis courts. 1421 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,119 Move to approve the ask grant payment uh 1422 01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,039 to Walder for $5,000. Seconded. Move and 1423 01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,640 seconded. 1424 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,480 Any all in favor? I I three to zero in 1425 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,470 favor of that. 1426 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,280 wasn't too boring. I said it's 1427 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,520 exciting but not as exciting here. All 1428 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:04,980 right. 1429 01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:17,110 [Applause] 1430 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:41,269 Good shuffling going. 1431 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,709 Thank you 1432 01:08:43,719 --> 01:08:47,400 for those are yours. Ready to take? 1433 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,920 Yes. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank 1434 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,359 you. 1435 01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,199 So, I'm going to tee Laura up and then 1436 01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:54,560 I'm going to give her the floor because 1437 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,040 she has really been um our project 1438 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,719 manager on this project and and we're 1439 01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:01,359 excited to be here today. Um almost 1440 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,080 exactly two years ago, we released the 1441 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,000 Lincoln County Housing Needs Assessment, 1442 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,839 which I'm sure you're all familiar with. 1443 01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:09,839 Um and as you can see, our copy from the 1444 01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:11,359 office is a little beat up because it's 1445 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:13,600 not one that just sits on the shelf. Um 1446 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,679 we have been working to implement some 1447 01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:17,679 of the 21 strategies that were 1448 01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:20,159 identified two years ago to advance 1449 01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:22,319 housing in Lincoln County. Um those 1450 01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:23,839 strategies include working with 1451 01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:26,000 municipalities to set goals and foster 1452 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,600 public support through leading on 1453 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,759 education with the public and building 1454 01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:31,920 internal capacity at the RPC to address 1455 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,560 affordable housing needs. Um we've also 1456 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,480 been working to implement projects and 1457 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:39,279 ensure long-term affordability by um 1458 01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:40,719 public private partnerships with 1459 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:43,359 development developers. the ARPA funding 1460 01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,520 especially as well as ensuring those 1461 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,600 ongoing affordability of housing units 1462 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,839 that are created through um those 1463 01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:51,560 partnerships with 1464 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,839 developers. Um what we're here to talk 1465 01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:56,960 about today is really um strategy four 1466 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,719 under our housing study which is 1467 01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:00,960 prioritizing sites and advancing shovel 1468 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,679 readiness. So one of the strategies it 1469 01:10:03,679 --> 01:10:06,080 was compile a prioritized inventory of 1470 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,480 potential housing development sites. We 1471 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:10,480 were also asked in in as one of the 1472 01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,159 strategies was to look at acquiring 1473 01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:13,920 sites with housing development potential 1474 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,480 which again falls under the ARPA funds 1475 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:18,239 um that you have dispersed over the past 1476 01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,400 couple years and then also looking at 1477 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,239 addressing infrastructure gaps for key 1478 01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:24,080 development sites and if you'll recall I 1479 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,440 was here at your last meeting to talk 1480 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:26,960 about a grant that we were awarded by 1481 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,560 the state recently in order to start 1482 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,520 implementing that. Um what's exciting is 1483 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,600 that we have compiled that prioritized 1484 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,199 inventory of potential housing 1485 01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:36,640 development sites which is the report 1486 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,120 you have in front of you nicely bound 1487 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,800 today. Um so I'm going to turn it over 1488 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,320 to Laura to talk about the process that 1489 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,840 we went through with that which was in 1490 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,679 partnership with Kamoy Associates who 1491 01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:46,760 was also 1492 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,040 um we have a nice one for you today. 1493 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,040 Yeah. So here are the um final copies of 1494 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,560 the priority site inventory. 1495 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,280 Um like Emily said, we have been 1496 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,159 engaging with Kim Associates um for a 1497 01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,800 little over a year for this process on 1498 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,159 the uh site inventory which kind of used 1499 01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,239 two different mechanisms to look at 1500 01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:14,080 potential affordable housing development 1501 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,239 sites. Um one of those being Koine 1502 01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:19,280 leading a geographic information systems 1503 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,440 desktop analysis which is just a fun way 1504 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:24,640 to say a mapping process. So they were 1505 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,640 looking at a bunch of different factors 1506 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,679 including environmental factors of um 1507 01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:32,040 properties that would make sense for 1508 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,480 development and also talking with towns 1509 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:36,560 to see what their priorities are for 1510 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,640 those sites as well. So whether that's 1511 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,640 proximity to schools for areas that 1512 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,880 might make sense and then also um 1513 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,480 looking pretty deeply at towns 1514 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:47,440 comprehensive plans to see um their 1515 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,080 identified growth areas for um the 1516 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,280 potential sites. So, the prioritized 1517 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,840 part being those sites that make sense 1518 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,679 not only just for housing, but make 1519 01:11:57,679 --> 01:11:59,760 sense for the town um and the future 1520 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,880 that they want to see moving 1521 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,239 forward. So, as you flip through this, 1522 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,719 you'll probably see um some of the fun 1523 01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:09,199 pictures that Camo added in of the 1524 01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,760 potential different types of housing. Um 1525 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,000 so, you could see some might look a 1526 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,679 little bit different uh depending on the 1527 01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:17,600 town and the location that they're in. 1528 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,360 Um so through this process we also 1529 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,520 talked with the sewer and water um 1530 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,920 districts to ensure that these sites 1531 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,760 would make sense and that they would be 1532 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,600 able to um maintain and continue uh to 1533 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,400 add on um the number of houses that are 1534 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,239 proposed from the housing study itself 1535 01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:37,760 as well as um from this process. Um 1536 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,239 Kamoy also did direct outreach to all 1537 01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:42,239 the properties that are listed in this 1538 01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:44,320 document. Um so all the properties 1539 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,199 listed here, the um property owners 1540 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,120 either agreed that yes, they would be 1541 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,760 interested to um sell these properties 1542 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,800 to affordable housing developers or they 1543 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,719 never heard back from the property. So 1544 01:12:56,719 --> 01:12:59,120 there could be a potential um if some 1545 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,310 extra steps are taken. 1546 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,400 I haven't been able to tell yet, but are 1547 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,800 is it for single family residents or 1548 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,080 multiple unit? U it's a mix. It's a mix. 1549 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,600 Yeah. So you can see 1550 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,880 depending on the property. Yeah. 1551 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,000 Depending on the property and really 1552 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,600 depending on the town. Um so when you're 1553 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,320 looking at like you'll probably see the 1554 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,159 single family homes versus if you're 1555 01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:25,440 looking in the growth areas within 1556 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,760 Deercata um you'll see some of those 1557 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,880 more multi multifamily um styles of 1558 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,800 housing. 1559 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,960 And those are all just suggestions from 1560 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,000 KON um taking images that have been done 1561 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,840 throughout the state. Yes. Yeah. So all 1562 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,600 the images that are shown are projects 1563 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,679 that have been developed in Maine. Um so 1564 01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:45,120 we weren't looking at, you know, what's 1565 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,040 been done in Seattle or San Francisco. 1566 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,239 We're looking locally. Um Laura is also 1567 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:52,400 being incredibly modest about the GIS 1568 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,719 analysis. She played a huge role in 1569 01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:56,800 that. Um creating a lot of data layers 1570 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,880 looking at the comp plans. Um what you 1571 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,960 see in here is approximately 30 sites. 1572 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,600 We started with about 90. Um and Laura 1573 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,760 did the GIS analysis for all of those 1574 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,920 alongside Kimoyne as well as did a 1575 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,679 buildout potential analysis. So 1576 01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:11,760 reviewing uh zoning ordinances for all 1577 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,840 the municipalities to see what the 1578 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,520 development potential could be on that 1579 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,520 dry acreage for the site. So it was a 1580 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,280 significant excuse me a significant 1581 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,440 amount of work um on both her part as 1582 01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:24,080 well as Camoy to put this together. Um 1583 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,480 what was exciting to see was some that's 1584 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,159 that 90 some of them whittleled down 1585 01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:29,560 based on feedback from the 1586 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,520 municipalities or saying you know I 1587 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,560 don't know if that's the right location 1588 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,719 but here's another one to look at. Um so 1589 01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:36,000 there was a little bit of horse trading 1590 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,640 if you will on some of these. Um but 1591 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,679 what was encouraging was that a larger 1592 01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:43,440 number than we expected of property 1593 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,719 owners had interest when Kamoy contacted 1594 01:14:46,719 --> 01:14:49,600 them to say yes we have an interest if 1595 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,199 there's the right person out there to 1596 01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:53,440 develop this site um to come and talk to 1597 01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,760 us. Now certainly we're not saying that 1598 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,080 as the county or the RPC that this must 1599 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,840 be a site that is developed for 1600 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,000 affordable housing. Um, simply what 1601 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,400 we're looking for this to be is a 1602 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,400 catalog, if you will, for developers or 1603 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,400 even the property owner themselves if 1604 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,480 they have an interest in developing 1605 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:12,320 affordable housing, what could be done. 1606 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,080 There would be more diligence that would 1607 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,480 need to be required, but again, this 1608 01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:18,239 allows developers to come in and have 1609 01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:19,600 some sense of what's out there in 1610 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,960 Lincoln County rather than trying to 1611 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,199 figure it out on their own. It seems 1612 01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:24,640 like it would be very helpful to 1613 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,400 developers. Are you is it going to be 1614 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,199 pushed out to a number of developers too 1615 01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:31,280 so that you don't have to wait for them 1616 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,360 to ask for your resources? Yes. You'll 1617 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,800 get it out to them. Do you want to talk 1618 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,880 about the workshop or Yeah. Yeah. So, 1619 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,880 we're looking um we're working out the 1620 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,560 specific date with Kamoy to make sure 1621 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,760 that they could be there to talk about 1622 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,040 the work that they did. But we're 1623 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,199 looking to hold a workshop at the end 1624 01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,159 this month where we'll invite 1625 01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:49,199 developers, other regional planning 1626 01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:50,719 agencies because they've been really 1627 01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:52,159 interested in the work that we've been 1628 01:15:52,159 --> 01:15:54,719 working on um for this process as well 1629 01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:56,719 as uh different stakeholders that make 1630 01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:59,199 sense as well as municipalities. Um to 1631 01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:01,920 have a workshop to kind of outline uh 1632 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,600 what went into this, the methodology 1633 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,080 behind it, but also the the next steps 1634 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,840 for this process. Do you have some 1635 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,000 developers, a list of developers who are 1636 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,400 potential candidates for going to that 1637 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,760 workshop? We do. Um, all the ones that 1638 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,080 have got ARPA funding to start um as 1639 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,800 well as we have other stakeholders um 1640 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,320 and developers across the state that 1641 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,440 we're aware of. So, we're going to 1642 01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:24,560 spread this. We're going to distribute 1643 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,920 this widely. You're the first ones 1644 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,800 seeing it. We even um got some slack 1645 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,400 from our co-workers because we hadn't 1646 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,840 even shared it with them. We wanted you 1647 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,159 all to see it first. 1648 01:16:34,159 --> 01:16:36,159 Um, so we'll be dispersing this this 1649 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:38,400 afternoon to all of our municipalities, 1650 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,800 our board membership, developers. Um, 1651 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,640 and then when we have that date and time 1652 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,159 finalized with Ko, we'll send out 1653 01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:46,159 another announcement. We're expecting it 1654 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,880 to be on Zoom just because the, um, the 1655 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,000 group that we've been working with at 1656 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,600 Kamoy would be coming up from Boston for 1657 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,040 this. So, um, we figured Zoom would work 1658 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,320 well. And does your list of developers 1659 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,320 include out of state developers, too, 1660 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,920 potentially? We don't, but we're hoping 1661 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,600 that we'll spread the word. So, as we 1662 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,679 get it out to the networks, um, they 1663 01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:09,120 might spread it, too. Okay. Great. 1664 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,880 Looks great. Yes. Yep. We're going to 1665 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,120 send it to them as well. 1666 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,920 I would invite them to 1667 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:20,030 Okay. Does it work? Sounds good. 1668 01:17:20,030 --> 01:17:24,070 [Music] 1669 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:28,640 He's shopping for a new place. While he's looking, is the Newcastle one 1670 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,920 at Zero um Mills Road or Academy? Is 1671 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,600 that the one that's owned by the town 1672 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,800 currently? Yes. Okay. So, they just need 1673 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:42,280 a developer. Yes. Yeah. Okay. 1674 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,920 Great. Well, that's very nice. Should 1675 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,480 there's some potential 1676 01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:51,199 for affordable housing. And the excite 1677 01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:52,960 the other exciting piece is as other 1678 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,800 properties appear up, we have the 1679 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,600 template. So um while our contract with 1680 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,000 Kimoy is up, they have provided us this 1681 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,159 document so we can continue to add or if 1682 01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:04,080 properties do get developed for housing, 1683 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,360 we can take them out of the profile and 1684 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,040 add something else in. So this will be a 1685 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,480 living document just like our housing 1686 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:10,480 needs assessment is. So if some of the 1687 01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:14,000 no-shows decide they call up that didn't 1688 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,000 participate in the first place. Yep. 1689 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,520 That's why Laura's phone number and 1690 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,120 contact information is at the bottom of 1691 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,320 every page. She's anticipating the 1692 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,880 phone. Right. Good. 1693 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,480 Cool. Nice. 1694 01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:31,600 Awesome. Look no further. 1695 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,080 That's the hope. 1696 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,000 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank 1697 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,560 you very much. 1698 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:48,310 to stay for the shar. 1699 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:54,709 Okay. Thank you, 1700 01:18:54,719 --> 01:19:02,030 Miss 1701 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,280 Huber. Recommendation. 1702 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,840 I can wait though. You want to give it 1703 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,159 to us right now? Sure. If you if Emily 1704 01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:12,080 doesn't mind. Can I stay here at least? 1705 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,000 Sure. 1706 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,640 Thank you, Mr. Chair. Down. Um, looking 1707 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,600 at the bids, um, my recommendation would 1708 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,520 be that we, uh, award the bid to Quirk, 1709 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:28,560 um, for a 2025 Ford Police Interceptor 1710 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,520 all-wheel drive white standard police 1711 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,350 car, if you will, um, in the amount of 1712 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,560 $45,520. Um, Darling was at 493 for the 1713 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,679 same vehicle. 1714 01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:45,280 So it has all it meets all the bid 1715 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,040 specifications uh including the 1716 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,000 spotlight um you know the the the speed 1717 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,719 rat ratios you know all the all the all 1718 01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:55,040 the so this is quirk out of this is 1719 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,280 quirk out of Augusta quirk Ford and do 1720 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,760 you usually um where you purchase the 1721 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,120 vehicles do you go back there for 1722 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,199 service or is there the only service we 1723 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:04,960 go back there for is if they give us a 1724 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,719 free oil change you know what I mean or 1725 01:20:06,719 --> 01:20:08,239 uh anything that's warrantied and then 1726 01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:10,000 we would take it to we might take it to 1727 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,320 West Cass at Ford if cuz any Ford garage 1728 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,320 will you know what I mean but yes we 1729 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,920 have that so the only our service 1730 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,480 contract remains with hillside okay you 1731 01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,080 know what I mean so it's really price 1732 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,960 determinative really what yes city issue 1733 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,520 is it's the same ve right yeah and if 1734 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:26,880 it's warranted we'll certainly take it 1735 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,960 to a Ford garage okay 1736 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,120 move to approve 1737 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,040 seconded move and seconded to approve 1738 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,239 the court 1739 01:20:35,239 --> 01:20:38,800 contract all in favor I I three to zero 1740 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,040 in favor thank you what do you want me 1741 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,679 to do with these Just leave. You got it. 1742 01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:48,189 Thanks, 1743 01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:54,870 Emily. The cork went up here. 1744 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,159 I'll bring it back to 1745 01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:00,800 And the gift cards. 1746 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,560 Apple. Apple. 1747 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,880 Don't date. 1748 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,950 Oh, we do this all the time. 1749 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,719 Good morning. Good morning. 1750 01:21:13,719 --> 01:21:16,159 Um I'm up here for a couple of reasons 1751 01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:18,000 today, but I think not as exciting as 1752 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,239 everyone else, it feels like. Um the 1753 01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:22,800 first thing on the agenda is um talking 1754 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,120 about the command trailer disposal. Um 1755 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,280 if you guys don't know, um our agency 1756 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,920 always carried um I don't know, a 1757 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,960 tagalong camper as a mobile command 1758 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:37,560 center. Um, I think we've had it since 1759 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:42,159 2009, 2010 or so. Um, we in interim had 1760 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:44,640 purchased the 2019 Mercedes Sprinter van 1761 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,360 to replace the command trailer and now 1762 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,560 we're in a position where we're ready 1763 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,719 to dispose of the trailer. So, um, we 1764 01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,199 had talked about having a proposal of, 1765 01:21:57,199 --> 01:21:59,360 um, a putting it on the auction site and 1766 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,320 I just need some approval for that as 1767 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:06,080 well. Is this the one that's in storage? 1768 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,760 It's currently up at recycling right 1769 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,960 now. Um, I needed to make room for the 1770 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,000 Sprinter van to be housed in our storage 1771 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,840 unit. Um, it's been kept 1772 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:21,440 inside for many years. Um, it's in good 1773 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:24,719 shape. It It's essentially a shell of a 1774 01:22:24,719 --> 01:22:27,560 tagalong trailer. It doesn't have any 1775 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,719 working plumbing. It still has some 1776 01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:33,520 working um propane to a degree. Um and 1777 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,199 we can still use the kitchen in it, but 1778 01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:37,040 it's again it's a shell. It doesn't 1779 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,960 really have anything aside from 1780 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,520 countertops 1781 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,440 and more countertops. Yeah, it it was 1782 01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,760 retrofitted so it could serve as a 1783 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,080 command vehicle and not as a camper. So 1784 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,600 the the traditional beds and furniture 1785 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,840 that would be in a camper were removed 1786 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,840 so that we could put in workspace 1787 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,040 countertops. Mhm. So, typically when we 1788 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,040 have a a piece of equipment of this 1789 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,760 nature, we would put it out to bid and 1790 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,040 we have an online bid auction site that 1791 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,199 we use now for our patrol vehicles that 1792 01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:11,520 we cycle out and we would likely use the 1793 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,320 same process for this. Is there a 1794 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,120 commission for that that you pay the 1795 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,480 online service? There's a a fee that the 1796 01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:23,840 purchaser pays. So we we get what the 1797 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,000 bid price is and then there's the 1798 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,159 premium price that the okay I get it the 1799 01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:31,440 purchaser needs to pay. So you're just 1800 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:34,239 asking for permission to go ahead to put 1801 01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:37,280 it on there. Do we have a motion? 1802 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,440 Just ask one question first. No other 1803 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:41,600 use for it within the county. No. And 1804 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,440 not even throughout the the rest of the 1805 01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:47,440 state. Um okay. Move to approve the 1806 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:51,120 disposal of the command trailer and to 1807 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,159 put it on the online auction system. 1808 01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:56,400 Seconded. Moved and second. You don't 1809 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,280 You could fix it over and for camper for 1810 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,800 the wildland. Oh, I thought you were 1811 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,320 going to say a mobile law office or 1812 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,880 whatever. Well, that would be it's very 1813 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,679 small. Yeah. Well, when we needed Uncle 1814 01:24:07,679 --> 01:24:10,280 Henry's and now they've left us. All in 1815 01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:17,830 favor? I three to zero in favor. 1816 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,040 So the next conversation is on the 1817 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,800 ambulance. Um it's a very similar 1818 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,199 conversation but um we have 1819 01:24:28,199 --> 01:24:30,719 to talk out some of the logistics of 1820 01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:32,800 this. So, um, again, a little bit of 1821 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,840 history on the ambulance is it's an old 1822 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,480 ambulance that was outfitted with radio 1823 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:41,440 equipment of ham radio equipments, um, 1824 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,600 amateur radio equipment, and even just 1825 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,480 our public safety radio equipment. Um, 1826 01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:49,760 we have a a very active communications 1827 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,040 team that utilized this vehicle. Um, it 1828 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,320 was donated to us in 1829 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,280 2017. Um, it's it's had its life with 1830 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:04,199 us. Um, I think it's a 2000 uh 30 uh GMC 1831 01:25:04,199 --> 01:25:06,120 3500. 1832 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,880 Um, we were originally thinking of the 1833 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,560 same process um the bid site, but I 1834 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,360 recently have learned that there is a 1835 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,800 major engine failure happening with it. 1836 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,280 So, regardless of what we do, it would 1837 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,280 have to be towed out of my storage unit. 1838 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,600 Um, and I would recommend it be used as 1839 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,679 salvage at this point. We didn't pay 1840 01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:34,320 anything for it. We're we're going to 1841 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,320 get a little bit of something for it, 1842 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,719 you know. 1843 01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:40,480 So, whatever we can get for it. That's 1844 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:42,639 quite a sales job. I can see the phones 1845 01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:44,800 are ringing now. 1846 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,040 So, we can put this on the auction site. 1847 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,840 They do list scrap material, so we could 1848 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,760 list it as a nonfunctioning. 1849 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,199 There's some junkers who might like 1850 01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:57,199 that. There may be, especially there's 1851 01:25:57,199 --> 01:25:59,520 not too many ambulances out there. Yeah, 1852 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,080 it is a niche market. One of one. Maybe 1853 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,600 if we put that in the auction detail. 1854 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,679 One of one. Put it in. It does have a 1855 01:26:05,679 --> 01:26:07,600 lot of the hookups and the outfits. It's 1856 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,520 not going to be sold with the radios 1857 01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,760 that is being completely stripped out so 1858 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,760 that they can be rehomed. Um, it it will 1859 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,280 also be essentially an empty shell of an 1860 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,320 ambulance. Um, but it has a a fold down 1861 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,480 workbench, which is kind of neat and 1862 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:25,920 different, I guess, about any other 1863 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,120 ambulances. And can the box come off on 1864 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,000 the back if you remove that from the 1865 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,679 vehicle with a bad engine? It might. I 1866 01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:37,679 do crazy things. Do what you want. Do 1867 01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:39,840 whatever. A lot of people are turning 1868 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,840 them into campers these days. They are, 1869 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,679 so there might be an interest. What do 1870 01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:46,080 we pay to list them? I don't think 1871 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,719 there's a fee to list them. Okay. Mhm. 1872 01:26:49,719 --> 01:26:52,880 So, is there a motion to get rid of this 1873 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,760 piece of equipment? Move to dispose of 1874 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,390 the 1875 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,760 ambulance. All in favor? All in favor of 1876 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:09,110 getting rid of this. I I three to zero. 1877 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,000 Now, get rid of two and buy one. And buy 1878 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,760 one. I see what you're doing. Yes. 1879 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:18,719 Right. I'm I'm right on it. Um, so in 1880 01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:20,400 earlier conversations when we were 1881 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,040 looking to purchase this 2019 Sprinter 1882 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,040 van, we were looking to replace both of 1883 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,040 the vehicles that you guys just approved 1884 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,480 to dispose of. Um, in doing so, yes, we 1885 01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:32,159 now have the Sprinter van, but we would 1886 01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:35,360 like to purchase a trail, a pullalong 1887 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,760 trailer, 6x12 trailer, um, as an 1888 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,199 accessory to the the Sprinter van, um, 1889 01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:42,719 and to replace a lot of the 1890 01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:45,040 functionality of what the ambulance used 1891 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,520 to do. 1892 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,840 Could the sprinter van pull a trailer? 1893 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,440 Yep. It's already got a hookup for 1894 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:54,080 trailer and everything, so it's it's 1895 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,560 functioning enough to do that. Um, I 1896 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,960 have my vehicle that does that as well. 1897 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,920 My truck does that. Um, and then our 1898 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,560 radio team is all on board for being 1899 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,719 able to pull a trailer with their own 1900 01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:09,040 vehicles as well. 1901 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,199 The nice part about a plan like this is 1902 01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:13,440 if you need the sprinter van without the 1903 01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,760 radio equipment, the trailer stays put 1904 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,080 and you take the sprinter van, but you 1905 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,960 can pull it along and it's an easy tow. 1906 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,719 It's not like trying to pull the camper 1907 01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:24,560 van behind a pickup. Exactly. Okay. 1908 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:28,159 Yeah. This was already allocated. So, we 1909 01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:29,800 originally allocated 1910 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,040 $140,000 towards the Sprinter van and 1911 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,760 its accessories. We spent $129 on the 1912 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,960 van. So, we still have an additional 1913 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,679 $11,000 to be spent specifically on this 1914 01:28:41,679 --> 01:28:44,719 project. Move to approve the purchase 1915 01:28:44,719 --> 01:28:47,199 authorization of the utility trailer for 1916 01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:49,679 $5,895. 1917 01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:52,560 Seconded. Move and seconded. No 1918 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,679 comments. All in favor? I I three to 1919 01:28:55,679 --> 01:28:59,270 zero in favor. 1920 01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,040 Have fun. Anything else you got to get 1921 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,360 rid of? 1922 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,920 You 1923 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,679 wait. I have been we've been doing a lot 1924 01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:10,080 of inventory in the office and um making 1925 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,679 sure equipment is functioning is 1926 01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:13,920 something that has been lacking over the 1927 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,800 years. So um this is why I'm coming to 1928 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,480 you all at once with a lot of different 1929 01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:21,679 equipments. Um, but I I'd like to see 1930 01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:24,239 our office being fully functioning and 1931 01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:26,719 fully deployable at all times. Would 1932 01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:28,719 those accessories qualify under what we 1933 01:29:28,719 --> 01:29:32,080 allocated with the remainder for ARPA? 1934 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:33,920 Yes. 1935 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,480 Well, we're not sending it back. No. No, 1936 01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:39,360 let's not send it back. And speaking of 1937 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,560 ARPA, our annual ARPA report was due 1938 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,679 April 30th, so that's been submitted. 1939 01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:48,120 Okay, good. 1940 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,520 and it's it's all designated as lost 1941 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,480 revenue because that's the easiest for 1942 01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:56,800 you to make decisions on usage and all 1943 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,040 of that. So, all of our allocations were 1944 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:02,320 done prior to the December 31st 1945 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,800 um deadline and we're moving forward 1946 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,320 with spending those dollars. Okay. 1947 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:13,350 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 1948 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:21,910 You're staying. Yes. Okay. 1949 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,120 my turn. I have a hiring 1950 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,400 recommendation for you for the executive 1951 01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,840 assistant position. And to refresh your 1952 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,040 memories, we had a administrative 1953 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,679 assistant position in our budget for 1954 01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:40,719 several years that was not filled. And 1955 01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:42,960 the position was restructured to give it 1956 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,159 more responsibilities to serve as a 1957 01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:48,560 backup to some of the functions in our 1958 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:52,560 finance and HR offices and um it helps 1959 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,719 us with succession planning for um 1960 01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:58,719 expected retirement that we're going to 1961 01:30:58,719 --> 01:31:01,360 have early next year. So, I make the 1962 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,400 recommendation that we hire Wendy Noel 1963 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,040 to the position of executive assistant 1964 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:12,000 and her start date would be May 27th. 1965 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,880 So, moved. Second. Moved and seconded. 1966 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,639 Any questions? All in favor? I. Three to 1967 01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:23,750 zero in favor. 1968 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,080 Okay. Next is our collection of DOT 1969 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,800 notices of layout and taking. The first 1970 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,280 one comes to us for the town of 1971 01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,199 Edgecom and the second one is for the 1972 01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:39,760 town of Whitefield and they're both 1973 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,040 related to drainage on state roadways. 1974 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,400 They've provided 1975 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,639 the typical 1976 01:31:47,639 --> 01:31:50,080 maps where you can guess where they're 1977 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:51,800 located. 1978 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,560 Um, this one's state aid highway number 1979 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:58,239 two river road in Edgecom and it's a a 1980 01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:00,480 coffer dam just like the ones that we 1981 01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:04,239 previously had. The second one is on 1982 01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:06,040 Route 1983 01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,440 194 right where Whitefield and Pittston 1984 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:13,760 come together and it's also a a covert 1985 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,480 situation on the roadway. Since we're 1986 01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:18,000 recording this for the first time, could 1987 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,120 you just give us 30 seconds of this 1988 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,719 quirky action that we have to take? Why 1989 01:32:22,719 --> 01:32:25,000 is it here? So, the 1990 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,880 DOT is uh making the recommendation that 1991 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,040 they acquire some private property. 1992 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,120 Usually, it's just a sliver of land 1993 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,880 around a roadway, a shoulder, a culvert, 1994 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,639 something like that. They 1995 01:32:39,639 --> 01:32:42,600 record 1996 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,600 that transaction in a notice of layout 1997 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,440 and taking that is recorded with the 1998 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:50,239 register of deeds office. DOT prepares 1999 01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:53,040 all of this. They notified the the 2000 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,560 property owners and they then make an 2001 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,760 offer to the property owners that are 2002 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,239 affected for the purchase of that piece 2003 01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:05,440 of land. This notice is put on public 2004 01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:07,360 record. So, anybody that would like to 2005 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,760 look at the the notices can come into 2006 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,080 our office and look at them. Uh, we 2007 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,440 don't scan the not the um maps from the 2008 01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:17,920 notices. We just we put them in a file 2009 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,719 cabinet. And honestly, there's never a 2010 01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:22,480 lot of interest in them, but they are 2011 01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:24,080 available. If anybody wants to look at 2012 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,760 them, we'll pull them out. They get 2013 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,679 recorded, too, though. So, they This 2014 01:33:27,679 --> 01:33:29,840 document gets recorded. The plans do 2015 01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,560 not. The plans do not. DOT only records 2016 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,360 this document. Okay. 2017 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:36,719 They're apparently we have the 2018 01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:39,679 physicals. We have the physical if 2019 01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:43,199 somebody wanted to see them. Correct. 2020 01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:44,880 So we have nothing to do with it. Only 2021 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,199 to accept it. You accept it. You place 2022 01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:50,800 it on record and then if the property 2023 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,880 owner disputes the offer being the copy, 2024 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,040 then you participate in the hearing. 2025 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,639 And when's the last time that ever 2026 01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:03,360 happened? It was um last year we had 2027 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,560 one. Okay. Yeah, we had down in Bristol. 2028 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,360 Yeah, they they're occasional. 2029 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,679 Not a complete antiquated thing. No, it 2030 01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:14,120 is real. No, and 2031 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,639 DOT does all of the administration of 2032 01:34:16,639 --> 01:34:18,960 that process. They just notify us that 2033 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,199 it's happening and usually it's the 2034 01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:23,600 commissioner who 2035 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,600 uh represents the district that would 2036 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,639 serve on that panel and they go view the 2037 01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:30,800 property with the other panel members 2038 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,080 and then they come back here to 2039 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,880 deliberate. That last one was a quite 2040 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,600 lengthy deliberation if I recall. It was 2041 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,880 down here. It was by the cemetery in 2042 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:42,960 South Bristol right by the golf course. 2043 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,320 Beyond the golf course. 2044 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,239 Move to approve the notice of layout and 2045 01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:50,840 taking for the town of 2046 01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:56,159 second. All in favor? I I 2047 01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:59,199 move to approve the 2048 01:34:59,199 --> 01:35:01,600 DOT notice of layout and taking for the 2049 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,550 town of Whitefield. 2050 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:11,600 Second. All in favor? I I 3 to zero. 2051 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,320 Thank you. 2052 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,920 The next item is a revisit to the Hon 2053 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,120 Hill Tower lease. Uh we have a lease 2054 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,800 right now with US Cellular. They have 2055 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,960 their cellular phone equipment on our 2056 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,600 Hon Hill Tower. That's the tower that we 2057 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,800 own as the county and they pay us a 2058 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:33,560 lease 2059 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,560 payment. Periodically, US Cellular will 2060 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,639 ask to make upgrades to the equipment on 2061 01:35:38,639 --> 01:35:42,480 the tower. Uh most recently, I think was 2062 01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:44,560 when they replaced the guide wires on 2063 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,120 the tower at their expense. They hired 2064 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,600 the contractors to do that and then they 2065 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,199 did the upgrades to those uh wires. 2066 01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:55,480 They're now asking to do some 2067 01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,679 reconfiguration of the equipment that's 2068 01:35:57,679 --> 01:36:00,080 at the top of the tower, meaning they 2069 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,760 would put in new support uh braces and 2070 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,040 then realign the equipment. I believe 2071 01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,239 that they're doing this as um a 2072 01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:13,040 precursor to a merger with another 2073 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,440 cellular company. 2074 01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:19,280 They've asked us to do that and in that 2075 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,120 process they would need to amend the 2076 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:22,800 lease agreement that they have with us 2077 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,719 because the agreement calls out all of 2078 01:36:24,719 --> 01:36:27,360 the equipment specifically. They also 2079 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,199 suggested that we extend the terms of 2080 01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:33,159 the lease to 2081 01:36:33,159 --> 01:36:38,400 be four more 10-year terms which is an 2082 01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,360 extensive amount of time. So, I replied 2083 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,199 back to them that the county is not 2084 01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:45,920 interested in in pursuing pursuing a 2085 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,880 term like that. Um, they're now asking 2086 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,440 if we would allow them to make the 2087 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:54,080 upgrades to the equipment and remove the 2088 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,080 lease extension from the amendment if we 2089 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,400 would be willing to do that. I don't 2090 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,440 have any objections to 2091 01:37:00,440 --> 01:37:04,400 them realigning their equipment, but not 2092 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,159 extending the the terms of the 2093 01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:08,719 agreement. When does it otherwise um 2094 01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:12,070 expire? 2095 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:18,550 I believe it's coming up quickly here 2096 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,199 and we're currently on a 10 or is it it 2097 01:37:21,199 --> 01:37:24,550 was 25? 2098 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:29,990 We were on initial agreement. 2099 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:37,800 Hand it 2100 01:37:37,810 --> 01:37:49,229 [Applause] 2101 01:37:49,239 --> 01:37:54,080 here. Initial term was 20 years and they 2102 01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,960 had one option to renew for an 2103 01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,520 additional 10 years. 2104 01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,080 So 2105 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:11,470 they uh amended it back on March 20th of 2106 01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:18,189 2018 2107 01:38:18,199 --> 01:38:22,800 and that was for some antenna and that 2108 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:27,109 was the guidewire amendment. 2109 01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:31,440 So, three more years it sounds like. 2110 01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,800 So, the first lease was in January of 2111 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,280 97. 2112 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:42,400 So, 2017. So, 2027 it will expire 2113 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,199 completely expire. Right. So, I'd like 2114 01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:47,119 to make the recommendation to you that 2115 01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:49,040 we allow them to make the upgrades to 2116 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,400 their equipment and not extend the terms 2117 01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,280 of the lease. And I would also suggest 2118 01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,520 that we hire a consultant to start 2119 01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,199 representing us in these lease 2120 01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:02,000 negotiations. Do you think hiring a 2121 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,080 consultant would make a big difference 2122 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,040 or um I think hiring a consultant will 2123 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,080 get you a more realistic market rate. 2124 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,080 Okay. I don't know what that rate is. I 2125 01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,480 have no idea how to collect that. Right. 2126 01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:18,639 So there is a local person that owns the 2127 01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:21,600 Blind Hill tower that we're currently on 2128 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,560 that does this type of work for other 2129 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,159 counties. And then there's also another 2130 01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:28,239 person that was referred to me out of 2131 01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:32,719 Ponobskot County that is new to this 2132 01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:35,920 field of um lease negotiation and tower 2133 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,199 management, tower site management. would 2134 01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:41,840 um is it necessary to make that decision 2135 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,400 now or could we wait a year if it's 2136 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:48,159 expiring in 27 or how long would the 2137 01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:50,080 process take? I guess I'd like 2138 01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,800 permission to start asking what that 2139 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,760 process would look like, what the cost 2140 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,840 would be, what what the county would be 2141 01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,840 obligated to, not to enter into an 2142 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:01,920 agreement, but just to start gathering 2143 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:08,790 information to make that decision. 2144 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:11,080 Um what she said I 2145 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:16,560 move now I forgot it. Um approve the um 2146 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,760 equipment maintenance equipment 2147 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,360 maintenance without any extension of the 2148 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,080 contract and then to authorize the 2149 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,119 administrator to uh engage in some 2150 01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:29,600 initial discussions with potential 2151 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:33,119 consultants on um renewals for the 2152 01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:37,159 future. Seconded. Thank you. Move and 2153 01:40:37,159 --> 01:40:40,800 seconded. Can you repeat that? 2154 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,119 I think I have it right here. All All in 2155 01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:49,109 favor? Okay. I I You're a jokester, too. 2156 01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:55,030 Three in three to zero in favor. 2157 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,600 Just as a side, I noticed that uh the 2158 01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,840 tower out here seems pretty rusty. I 2159 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,760 don't know if we have annual maintenance 2160 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,800 on that or not or painting or we don't 2161 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,560 talk about that tower. We don't talk 2162 01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,719 about that this one. Yeah. Yeah, we 2163 01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:10,560 don't talk about it. All right. Well, 2164 01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,840 I'll try not to. 2165 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,360 But it's something I noticed as I was 2166 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:20,229 driving by the other day, man. 2167 01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:22,400 I'm hoping at some point that tower can 2168 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,000 go away. Okay. But for today, it's 2169 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,400 functioning perfectly. Okay. Don't 2170 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,390 breathe too hard. Right. 2171 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,880 Okay. Next item is the station design 2172 01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:36,719 conference. This is the conference that 2173 01:41:36,719 --> 01:41:38,960 I told you about that's in Glendale, 2174 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,280 Arizona, coming up in a couple weeks. 2175 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:45,360 And it's specific to agencies who are 2176 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,199 looking to build public safety 2177 01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:49,760 facilities in whatever manner that may 2178 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:54,400 look like. and we invited several of our 2179 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,000 department heads and between calendar 2180 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,639 conflicts and planned vacations, we've 2181 01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:03,760 settled on three of our employees going 2182 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,040 to the conference. So, it'll be Sheriff 2183 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,480 Bracket, our communications director, 2184 01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:11,239 Tara Do, and our EMA director, Emily 2185 01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:14,600 Huber. They'll all be traveling to 2186 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,040 Glendale. and the cost of the 2187 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,320 registration for the conference, the 2188 01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,400 lodging for all three of them, the 2189 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,600 flights, and then the the cost of the 2190 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:31,550 PDM for meals. The total amount is about 2191 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,560 $6,900. So, I'd like permission for the 2192 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,199 outofstate travel and to cover the 2193 01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:39,679 expenses. When is this taking place? 2194 01:42:39,679 --> 01:42:43,520 It's uh first day is May 18th. May 18th. 2195 01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,119 It'll still be pretty warm out there 2196 01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:47,520 then. 2197 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,679 Did you want to go? No. I could probably 2198 01:42:49,679 --> 01:42:51,440 find you a flight. No, that's all right. 2199 01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:53,440 Well, I assume they'll be stuck in 2200 01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:56,159 conference room with AC that's too high. 2201 01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:58,239 Um, as in likely they'll all come back 2202 01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:00,639 with respiratory infections. Exactly. 2203 01:43:00,639 --> 01:43:03,600 But uh if you could remind us there's um 2204 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,760 topics that will help us as we're trying 2205 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,639 to plan a new public safety building. 2206 01:43:08,639 --> 01:43:10,960 So, there's many, many different agenda 2207 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:12,960 items specific to what we're trying to 2208 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,960 do. In addition to that, they have 2209 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,440 one-on-one consulting sessions where 2210 01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:20,639 they can look at your project at the 2211 01:43:20,639 --> 01:43:23,600 step it's at today and then offer some 2212 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,440 insight and some um suggestions on ways 2213 01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:32,480 that you can design it or plan for usage 2214 01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:34,000 that might be outside of what you've 2215 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,679 already explored. So, it'll expand our 2216 01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:41,600 focus so that maybe we find one or two 2217 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,400 or or more different uses for that 2218 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,520 facility, ways to fund that 2219 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,920 facility, ways that it could be more 2220 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,080 streamlined or or made more efficient 2221 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,400 down the road or plan for future life 2222 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,920 expectancy on that. There's there's a 2223 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,239 lot of different and um 2224 01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:03,119 valuable topics that they'll be 2225 01:44:03,119 --> 01:44:05,199 covering. So, have we tasked one of 2226 01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:08,719 those three to take the lead on that and 2227 01:44:08,719 --> 01:44:10,480 sort of get I mean because they each 2228 01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,639 come from separate departments. You're 2229 01:44:12,639 --> 01:44:16,159 not apparently attending. So, um who is 2230 01:44:16,159 --> 01:44:18,480 going to sort of ask that overarching 2231 01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:20,159 question? I think Emily just 2232 01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:22,560 volunteered. I can so I'm not going to I 2233 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,280 wondered if she was waving back. I just 2234 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:26,800 want to put out there that like we all 2235 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,679 did our research on it like even from my 2236 01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:31,920 perspective as it's hard to find things 2237 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,840 for EMA. Um, and there are a lot of 2238 01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,600 different individual sessions that cover 2239 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,760 EOCC's. They cover and I think that all 2240 01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:41,040 of us are going to be able to get 2241 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,560 something out of it to the point that 2242 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:43,760 we're going to have to divide and 2243 01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,960 conquer during the same time frames of 2244 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:48,800 the information that's going to be put 2245 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,280 out there. Um, we're all very excited 2246 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,840 for the one-on-one sessions so that we 2247 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,080 can discuss kind of layouts of each of 2248 01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,679 our our needs and our wants. Um, and 2249 01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:01,679 it's going to be extremely beneficial 2250 01:45:01,679 --> 01:45:04,000 for all three of us, no matter how we're 2251 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,600 looking at it. Cuz that's what I'm 2252 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,560 curious about is that what else could we 2253 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,360 do while we're building? Is there more 2254 01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,000 county services that could be delivered 2255 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:18,080 through there or um do we collaborate 2256 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,280 with one of the towns if wherever we end 2257 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,639 up or maybe a budding towns is there 2258 01:45:24,639 --> 01:45:26,639 some opportunities to do something 2259 01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:29,199 together there. So hopefully you can 2260 01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:30,960 engage in that discussion. It will be 2261 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,520 very interesting. It's very um law and 2262 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,639 fireheavy okay based but again there's a 2263 01:45:36,639 --> 01:45:40,639 lot of um individual sessions around 2264 01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:43,040 each of our needs. So I don't think 2265 01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,320 we'll come away with nothing. Great. 2266 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,639 I just comment when we did this when we 2267 01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:52,320 built two bridges and it was very 2268 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:53,840 beneficial. 2269 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,719 I think the one one to one thing sound 2270 01:45:56,719 --> 01:45:59,760 that really Yeah, we're great. very 2271 01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:01,600 excited um to the point that we all had 2272 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,280 to move our schedules around so that we 2273 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,520 could make sure this a priority because 2274 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,119 we want to make sure that all of us can 2275 01:46:07,119 --> 01:46:09,360 get something out of it and that not one 2276 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,840 of us can speak more than the other, you 2277 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,520 know. 2278 01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,760 Great. Well, 2279 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:20,470 good. Okay, good news. 2280 01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:22,880 You want a motion to approve? Okay. Move 2281 01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,719 to approve the travel for the sheriff, 2282 01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:29,119 EMA director, communications director 2283 01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:32,239 for a total of $6,900. 2284 01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:35,590 Second. 2285 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:39,119 Moved and seconded. All in favor? I I 2286 01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:45,830 three to zero. Going to Glendale. Yeah, 2287 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,960 we're excited. Good. Good. Can't wait to 2288 01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,840 hear the report back. How many days? 2289 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,800 three. I think it's four. We're We'll be 2290 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,560 leaving on that Sunday to make sure that 2291 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:57,920 we can get there for the Monday 2292 01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,679 one-on-one sessions. And the last day of 2293 01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:01,840 the conference is Thursday. So, we'll be 2294 01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,000 heading out on Friday or coming back on 2295 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,239 Friday. Cool. And all the deputies will 2296 01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:08,239 be ready to go if something happens 2297 01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:11,040 while you guys are all away. 2298 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,560 They carry me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. 2299 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,239 They all have deputy directors. 2300 01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:17,760 right? We're going to 2301 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,440 get to see some fresh faces on the 20th. 2302 01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:26,320 Oh yeah, we should have all deputy days. Put something on the agenda 2303 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,239 so they all to speak, you know. That'd 2304 01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:34,960 be great for them. Yeah, good idea. 2305 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,679 All right. Okay. Next item is the 2306 01:47:37,679 --> 01:47:40,560 proposal that we received from LCTV 2307 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,199 regarding the camera installation. 2308 01:47:43,199 --> 01:47:47,679 And what that proposal would do is have 2309 01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:50,800 a camera mounted above your head there 2310 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,840 on the wall. There'll be one on the 2311 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,960 back. Each of the seats will have a 2312 01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:58,880 microphone. There'll be two microphones 2313 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,600 at the table here. And then it'll have 2314 01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,480 all the supplementary equipment, the 2315 01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:07,520 mixing switches, and all of that fun 2316 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,000 stuff that I'm not an expert on, but I 2317 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,360 have an expert here if you have 2318 01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:15,760 questions. Um, it would also there also 2319 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,159 included in the proposal is the cost to 2320 01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:21,520 have a technician attend each of our 2321 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,159 meetings to run that equipment and then 2322 01:48:24,159 --> 01:48:26,400 upload it so that we can be live 2323 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:28,960 streaming it. Uh, one of the notes that 2324 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,440 I made while I was sitting here is to to 2325 01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:34,080 start a Lincoln County YouTube channel 2326 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,280 so that we can use our Zoom platform to 2327 01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:38,800 live stream to YouTube while the 2328 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,760 meetings are happening. So, those kinks 2329 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,639 I'm still working on. But, do we have to 2330 01:48:44,639 --> 01:48:46,719 do anything different in that corner to 2331 01:48:46,719 --> 01:48:48,880 house any of like like the laptop 2332 01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:53,600 computer, um the converter, 2333 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,199 any other equipment? So, there's a case 2334 01:48:55,199 --> 01:48:58,320 that it stores in that can stay here. If 2335 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,800 that table needs to move, we can find a 2336 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,440 different workstation or Yeah. Okay. I 2337 01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:05,360 think once we get the equipment on site 2338 01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,520 and we actually physically can see it in 2339 01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,600 the space, then we can address anything 2340 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,520 else that might be needed for it. And 2341 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:15,920 did they say like um once approval is 2342 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,600 given how quickly it could go live next 2343 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,760 or the is the equipment readily 2344 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,840 available? the the equipment we would 2345 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,760 need to to make a payment for the 2346 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,679 equipment and then it could be ordered 2347 01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:29,600 and I think it would arrive within a 2348 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,920 week or so and then it could potentially 2349 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,560 installation is I'm sorry I was just 2350 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,400 saying potentially at the next meeting 2351 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,199 we would yeah yes I see a nod in the 2352 01:49:39,199 --> 01:49:42,719 back maybe it's like a a semi I say one 2353 01:49:42,719 --> 01:49:45,840 or two weeks okay installation is a 2354 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,520 matter of putting a bracket on the wall 2355 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,360 okay the um network cables already in 2356 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,280 place Mhm. and the cameras will be 2357 01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,400 powered by the network. Okay. So, it 2358 01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,520 would be a very easy to install system. 2359 01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,719 Okay. Move to approve uh the proposal of 2360 01:50:03,719 --> 01:50:06,840 LCTV to outfit this room 2361 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,679 for recording and broadcasting of our 2362 01:50:09,679 --> 01:50:12,239 meeting. I will second it. You moved and 2363 01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:13,920 second it. Any other comments? One 2364 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,960 question. Um, have you One thing I've 2365 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,280 never looked up is why people use Town 2366 01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,760 Hall streams versus YouTube as a 2367 01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:26,159 platform. Has that come up yet? I think 2368 01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:28,639 it's tied to their website. What's town 2369 01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:31,119 hall stream? 2370 01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:33,280 Just like YouTube, but they primarily 2371 01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,119 house the digital record and that's 2372 01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:36,480 where you can watch instead of on 2373 01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:38,080 YouTube. So, some people just have it 2374 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:39,920 streaming through this outfit called 2375 01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,520 town hall streams is the second most 2376 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,440 common thing after YouTube. Oh, really? 2377 01:50:43,440 --> 01:50:45,280 Okay. But yeah, you think it's tied 2378 01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,440 through there? I don't know. Maybe they 2379 01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:49,920 just YouTube's too corporate. They don't 2380 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,239 want it to live there. I don't know. I 2381 01:50:52,239 --> 01:50:53,440 don't know the answer, but I'll look it 2382 01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:55,600 up. 2383 01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,320 Behind you. Uh, most towns in Lincoln 2384 01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,719 County, Walder, Wisconsin, 2385 01:51:01,719 --> 01:51:04,560 Newcastle, Dan RCA, they all stream 2386 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:06,159 their select board and planning board 2387 01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:08,080 meetings and budget committee stuff like 2388 01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,880 that all to uh their YouTube channels. 2389 01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,600 Uh, I don't know what town hall is. 2390 01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:16,320 Yeah. Um I think Booth Bay uses it and 2391 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,480 Sagada Hawk uses it and a few other 2392 01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:20,880 people out there. Yep. The only the only 2393 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,199 one I don't know about is Bristol. They 2394 01:51:23,199 --> 01:51:26,239 uh tend to upload their stuff to Google 2395 01:51:26,239 --> 01:51:27,920 Drive and that's where I usually get it 2396 01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,480 from. Uh they don't have a YouTube 2397 01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:32,320 channel that I know about. That's all I 2398 01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,920 wanted to say. Cool. Thank you. 2399 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:41,510 Figure that out as it goes along. Cool. 2400 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,360 All in favor of the motion. I I I three 2401 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,560 to zero. Great. And just so I'm clear, 2402 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:52,239 the proposal is the equipment and the 2403 01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:55,520 ongoing per meeting labor cost to have 2404 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:59,589 the technician here 2405 01:51:59,599 --> 01:52:01,000 at the 2406 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,639 three-hour minimal. 2407 01:52:04,639 --> 01:52:08,000 Yes, I I do have an update for you on 2408 01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,880 the DA's office restitution. I reached 2409 01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,840 out to their office supervisor and the 2410 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,239 um deputy district attorney contacted 2411 01:52:18,239 --> 01:52:20,800 the county where this individual was 2412 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,280 being prosecuted and the case is still 2413 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,280 pending. So, nothing has been ordered 2414 01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,080 yet as a result of the actions with the 2415 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:32,880 credit card here, but uh I let her know 2416 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,080 that we would be looking for a a routine 2417 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,320 update on this until the the matter was 2418 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,320 completely resolved. So, that sounds 2419 01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,760 like when they say the 2420 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:46,400 um matter was in litigation, that's the 2421 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,040 act of using the card and then pulling 2422 01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,400 it back. that charge of because I 2423 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:56,560 thought uh DA DA assistant DA Murdoch 2424 01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,719 said that they were pursuing charges 2425 01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:01,199 around that incident and is that what 2426 01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:04,639 that is or um she said where where he's 2427 01:53:04,639 --> 01:53:06,480 being prosecuted and the case is still 2428 01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:08,960 pending and the case is still pending or 2429 01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,040 like which case I guess that's what I 2430 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,719 sounds like what he's sitting in 2431 01:53:12,719 --> 01:53:14,639 something else is why he's in the other 2432 01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:19,679 county. Yeah. Okay. Um I guess that's so 2433 01:53:19,679 --> 01:53:21,679 you want to know about just whether or 2434 01:53:21,679 --> 01:53:25,040 not the new charges were brought or not 2435 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:29,199 um for that activity 2436 01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:32,040 specific to the 2437 01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,560 Yes. Cuz I don't see why they would say 2438 01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,800 that he's still under those those 2439 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,119 charges without 2440 01:53:38,119 --> 01:53:40,480 addressing you know what we were talking 2441 01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:44,719 about here. I will get an update. Good. 2442 01:53:44,719 --> 01:53:48,310 Thank you. 2443 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:52,000 Oh, I had it on two things. LCTV. So, 2444 01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:55,159 the next one is the 2445 01:53:55,159 --> 01:53:57,360 proposal that was separate from the 2446 01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,760 cameras. Okay, got it. Do you want to 2447 01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,639 take any action on that today? Is there 2448 01:54:02,639 --> 01:54:04,280 anything new to 2449 01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:07,360 report? I I guess my lingering question 2450 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,719 is is which towns would opt in 2451 01:54:11,719 --> 01:54:16,560 enough for it to make sense to even 2452 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,400 start to think about them coming in as 2453 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,880 an organization of part of the the 2454 01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,239 county cuz if only 2455 01:54:25,239 --> 01:54:28,960 one town or no town opts in that doesn't 2456 01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:30,800 look like it accomplishes what they're 2457 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,199 trying to accomplish. I I don't think it 2458 01:54:33,199 --> 01:54:35,360 I don't think so. Yeah. 2459 01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:36,639 [Music] 2460 01:54:36,639 --> 01:54:38,960 Okay. So, I guess we'll just keep it 2461 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,119 there until we get more information. No 2462 01:54:41,119 --> 01:54:46,070 action. No action. Okay. 2463 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,159 I do have an update for you on the 2464 01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:51,520 public safety building project. We had a 2465 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,440 Zoom meeting with the uh consultants 2466 01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,719 that we're using and right now we're 2467 01:54:58,719 --> 01:55:01,280 doing site evaluations. 2468 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:04,920 We've got a list of 10 different 2469 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,639 possible locations that are in Newcastle 2470 01:55:08,639 --> 01:55:13,679 and Noble that have a site that is large 2471 01:55:13,679 --> 01:55:16,199 enough in acreage. We would need at 2472 01:55:16,199 --> 01:55:19,679 least I think it's either 12 or 14 acres 2473 01:55:19,679 --> 01:55:22,239 to accomplish everything that we've put 2474 01:55:22,239 --> 01:55:27,880 into our preliminary um site. And of the 2475 01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:33,950 10, there are 2476 01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:38,040 four six of the 10 are feasible for our 2477 01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,800 needs. So what the consultant is going 2478 01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,760 to do is then move it to the next step 2479 01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:46,719 where there's um regulatory analysis 2480 01:55:46,719 --> 01:55:49,199 done, there's mapping done. Our planning 2481 01:55:49,199 --> 01:55:51,119 office is going to help with that so 2482 01:55:51,119 --> 01:55:53,280 that it keeps our cost down with the 2483 01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:56,719 consultant. And then um the other thing 2484 01:55:56,719 --> 01:55:58,400 that we need to consider is whether or 2485 01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,360 not these parcels are something that the 2486 01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,840 owner would be interested in selling. So 2487 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,199 it's not their criteria wasn't just go 2488 01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:09,040 look at properties that are for sale 2489 01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,840 now. It's just where would it work and 2490 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,800 then deal with the owners or whatever. 2491 01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:19,280 Right? So the the list was made based on 2492 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:20,520 proximity 2493 01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:23,360 to the areas that we've identified as 2494 01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,400 being priority and then large enough so 2495 01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,159 that we could accommodate everything 2496 01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:30,880 we're trying to do. I think only one of 2497 01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,360 the 10 was for sale at the time that the 2498 01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:36,800 list was compiled. I don't know if any 2499 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,960 of these parcels are listed on the site 2500 01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,880 inventory that the planning office 2501 01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,360 presented today for housing. So that 2502 01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,639 might give us an idea on whether or not 2503 01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:50,800 um there's interest in selling. Right. 2504 01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:54,159 But Sheriff Brackett has indicated that 2505 01:56:54,159 --> 01:56:57,360 he would be open to going and meeting 2506 01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,520 with the the owners of the properties if 2507 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,199 we get to a point like that just to 2508 01:57:01,199 --> 01:57:03,119 explain what what we're trying to do and 2509 01:57:03,119 --> 01:57:05,440 to see if there's an interest in selling 2510 01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:07,679 part of the property or all of the 2511 01:57:07,679 --> 01:57:11,840 person or does a combination of a couple 2512 01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:13,920 different owners. Yes. Are they looking 2513 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,400 at that idea too if they're overlap or 2514 01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,400 next to each other? you would have to 2515 01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,960 approach more than just one owner. Most 2516 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:25,040 of these are sta standalone standalone parcels, but there's like 2517 01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:26,480 there's one here that's on the list 2518 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,840 that's feasible. It's 51 acres. 2519 01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,400 We wouldn't need 51 acres, but are all 2520 01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,199 51 acres buildable? There there was at 2521 01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:37,760 least one parcel that had wetlands as 2522 01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,880 part of the parcel, but not in a section 2523 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,159 that would prohibit construction and 2524 01:57:44,159 --> 01:57:45,719 road access. 2525 01:57:45,719 --> 01:57:48,239 So there's there's a lot of different 2526 01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:49,719 things that are going into this 2527 01:57:49,719 --> 01:57:52,320 analysis. We do have another meeting 2528 01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,000 scheduled for uh next Friday, I believe 2529 01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:59,040 it is. This Friday, it's this Friday. 2530 01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:00,800 And things can change after our 2531 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:02,639 delegation comes back from Arizona, 2532 01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:06,000 right? And say we need more than 15 2533 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,639 acres or whatever, right? We were pretty 2534 01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:10,800 aggressive with our request. Okay. Yeah. 2535 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:12,800 So, I don't know that it'll change a 2536 01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:16,080 whole lot, but um it could Who knows? I 2537 01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,599 mean, who knows what they're going to 2538 01:58:17,599 --> 01:58:20,400 get out of this, but but we have another 2539 01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:22,800 meeting scheduled and um we're moving 2540 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:24,800 this process along. We want to be able 2541 01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,480 to 2542 01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,360 have our timeline in line with the 2543 01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:31,119 congressionally directed spending 2544 01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:33,760 request window that we're hoping will 2545 01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,400 open next spring. So, all of the things 2546 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,639 that we need to do on our end, grant 2547 01:58:38,639 --> 01:58:40,560 funding that would help pay for them. 2548 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:41,560 Yes, 2549 01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:42,880 [Music] 2550 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,760 that's our ultimate goal is to allow the 2551 01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,040 federal government to pay for this for 2552 01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:48,719 us. That would be very nice. I'm sure 2553 01:58:48,719 --> 01:58:51,199 the county would appreciate that. I'm 2554 01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:53,840 certain they would. 2555 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,840 So, it's it is moving forward. Great. 2556 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,480 Thank you. 2557 01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:02,000 And I have an update on tax abatement 2558 01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,639 hearings. We have one pending for the 2559 01:59:04,639 --> 01:59:09,360 town of Breamman that has initially 2560 01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,440 indicated that they'd be willing to an 2561 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,639 extension until the end of June and I 2562 01:59:14,639 --> 01:59:17,400 reached out and got a response from them 2563 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,400 yesterday and um they were waiting on 2564 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,440 some records from the town. I would be 2565 01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,119 of the mindset that it's time to 2566 01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:27,360 schedule this. They've had plenty of 2567 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,760 time to gather all of their their 2568 01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,400 supporting documents to build their case 2569 01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:37,840 and prepare to present it to you. Um, so 2570 01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,520 I'll be reaching out to them with some 2571 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,480 dates in June to get this scheduled. The 2572 01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,880 other one that we have that you've 2573 01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:48,000 accepted is with a property owner in the 2574 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,840 town of Whitefield and um they indicated 2575 01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:53,520 that there may be additional property 2576 01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,719 owners coming in coming with tax 2577 01:59:56,719 --> 01:59:59,280 abatement applications for similar 2578 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,440 situations and I did receive one 2579 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,840 yesterday but it was incomplete. So, 2580 02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,159 I'll be reaching out to them for the 2581 02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:08,920 complete document that they need to 2582 02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:11,280 prepare and I'll have that on the next 2583 02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:14,080 agenda for you to accept if they are 2584 02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,639 timely. But I I would recommend that we 2585 02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:18,800 hold these hearings separate from each 2586 02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:22,639 other so that the um facts of each case 2587 02:00:22,639 --> 02:00:26,800 can be considered independently. And um 2588 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,000 I have some dates from you. So, I'll reach out to them to get that 2589 02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,920 scheduled. I'm hoping that that can be 2590 02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:35,199 made in May. Do you think we could nail 2591 02:00:35,199 --> 02:00:37,040 that down this week? So, I mean, summer 2592 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,119 is coming up quickly and the calendars. 2593 02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:41,440 My plan is to You don't want You don't 2594 02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:42,800 want to spend Sundays in here listening 2595 02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:44,880 to the tax hearings? Of course. I'm not 2596 02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,520 sure if these windows open. So, come on, 2597 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,440 guys. They do, but the AC works in here. 2598 02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:52,480 Oh, okay. Well, when the when the 2599 02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:54,880 chiller's on and the the boiler's off. 2600 02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:56,719 Well, can't guarantee if it's nice out 2601 02:00:56,719 --> 02:00:59,440 there, you know that we're in here. So, 2602 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,679 Right. Right. It does get a little You 2603 02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:03,599 can tell because the traffic's backed up 2604 02:01:03,599 --> 02:01:05,679 and and everybody wants to go outside 2605 02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:06,760 then. There we 2606 02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:10,320 go. It's sell drinks to the people are 2607 02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:13,040 stopped, right? They need a little 2608 02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:14,960 lemonator, right? Anything to help the 2609 02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:16,719 county, right? 2610 02:01:16,719 --> 02:01:20,320 Uh, okay. So, I I do have an executive 2611 02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,800 session scheduled for discussion of 2612 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:26,719 legal under 1 MRSA 4056E. 2613 02:01:26,719 --> 02:01:29,520 And in that regard, I will move a motion 2614 02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,679 that we do go into that executive 2615 02:01:31,679 --> 02:01:34,440 session for discussion of legal and one 2616 02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,760 MRSA 40516. 2617 02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,000 Second move and seconded. All in favor? 2618 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:45,320 I I 3 to zero.