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Good evening. I'm going to call the Lincoln Town Council meeting to order. On Tuesday, January 23, at 7 p.m., could all please rise for the pledge.

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TVCD brothers kitchen, the

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petitioner is not present, this is the third time he's been on the agenda, I want to take a motion.

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Mr. President, I feel free time is enough, so I'll make a motion to table.

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Motion to table by Councilman Bouchette, seconded by Councilman Azar and Councilman Ooni, any discussion?

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Hearing none all in favour.

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The next is discussion in our action on a class-up license dealing with the Railquarium and past events.

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I'll obtain a motion to discuss.

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So moved.

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Motion by Councilor Russo, seconded by Councilman Oen.

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Good.

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The last.

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Could you just do me a favor and just state your name just so that it's not prepared.

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Thank you.

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So yeah, I guess where we left off with the last issue was the fact that we didn't know

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the date of the meeting was being changed, which resulted in the meeting happening after our event,

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which I think was what led to the denial of the permit, is that correct?

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Well, we never entertained the permit, not that it was denied, it was never heard by a disport.

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Okay, well, we got the email, the 37th approval process from the Chief of Police,

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I think the town clerk and then you guys, so it was approved by the chief police of town clerk and said it was denied by the board.

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And this was due to the fact that the meeting was happening after our event, and we weren't able to have it approval.

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Right, you did not get approval, but it's not the same as with the night.

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Okay.

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So just again, bear on that so that we can be more prepared in the future with changes of meetings and stuff that responsibility falls on us to check the town's site.

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Okay, and there's no emails I brought to people who applied for attendance regarding changes

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of weekly events, or I'm scheduled monthly meetings.

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No, cool.

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Okay, that's good to know.

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And then I just had a few questions on a few things.

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We also inquired about having an outsider who has a Class P license

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through the State of Rhode Island, commenting on our space

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and serve alcohol that way.

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I believe, I'm not sure who I be talking with exactly,

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but I think we got a no on that.

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I was just wondering what is the deal

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with the class fee catering license?

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Because as I'm reading, it's listed in section 3714.2

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with the department business regulation issues

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those licenses and that that is valid statewide.

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So I'm just wondering what the deal is with that in general, is having a caterer of the

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class people in the state.

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I will defer that to the solicitor.

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The main reason is that you are a business and what you're looking for when you come in

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front of us is a permission or a license to have a special event.

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So just because you have somebody else coming in does not mean that you can host a special

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event.

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and I'm not... I'll turn it over to him.

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So that's correct. Mr. President, the BTA,

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the... that does not serve about the local regulations

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and requirements that we have in the police room

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to satisfy the town.

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Okay, which is to have a special events permit.

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That's kind of been like a little bit...

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it seems like a gray area as far as like what constitutes

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a special event and what doesn't that we've been kind of struggling to...

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to grasp in terms of, like, when does it become a special event, exactly?

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I think it becomes a special event any time that you're doing something outside the norm,

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which, you know, it's my understanding that your business is in our gallery, is that correct?

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Correct.

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Yep. So, any time that you are conducting business or events outside of the permanent use,

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which is displayed in showing art that will require you to get a permit

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So moving forward, if we're only issued the 12 special events permits a year, that's

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correct, right?

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12 per year, for the special events permits?

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No, this will be the same correct.

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Okay, so there is an unlimited amount of special events permits, the $150 permit that we can

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apply for, that also includes the liqueur, temporary liqueur license for 24 hours.

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No.

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I believe there's only a little bit of time that you can get throughout for your calendar year.

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With a class F?

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With a class F.

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So this class F is a separate thing from a special event?

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No, the class F.

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The class F is what allows you to serve alcohol in that common sense.

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A special event would be if you were having a sporting event, we'll just say something indoors,

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And I'm forgetting the number of people, the number of people off here, that any time you have greater than X number of people

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expected to attend something

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That requires a special event license. Okay, so if you're having a car show. Yeah, we'll just say that. Okay

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Outside no alcohol being true, but you're expecting this number of people. I want to say it's 150

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I'd have to look at the rodents, but just don't know

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If you're having that, you have to come in and ask for a special event license to have that event.

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If you're also looking to serve alcohol, then you need the one-day class half liquor license to do that.

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So as an example of that, when St. Basil's Church runs one of their parties, they come in front of us to have a class half.

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even though it's a congregation, they're having an event with it, expecting that many people,

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and they want to sort of be alcohol to get the special event license, and they get the alcohol license.

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Yep. Okay, so when I've been filling out the permit application for the special event permit,

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that class app is kind of included in that application, very remembered correctly. So would I be able to

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file a application and then not request a class app within that application and

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then that would in turn if we wanted to do a smaller event with a class p

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catering license serving alcohol then that would then make that permissible

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because you're saying if I have a special events permit then well special event

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makes it so that I can have a class p catering company come in and sort of

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alcohol at, say, I don't want to have a jazz event with a gallery.

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I'm going to have to throw that to the solicitor of that.

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Okay, cool.

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I think we have your contact info too.

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I mean, so yeah, if you want to call, we have to do that.

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Sure.

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And then, as far as the, like, a per- and more permanent liquor license,

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I think I heard that there's aren't any of those available currently in town.

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Well, are you a restaurant?

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What's that?

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Are you a restaurant?

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No.

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No, I'm a food.

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Okay.

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If there's this thing,

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do we raise wine license?

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Are you serving food?

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We could.

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Like, I mean,

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So there you have to go through.

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Like, will we serve popcorn?

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Then you have to go through

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a department of health.

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You have that.

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Yeah.

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You have to have a food service license

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and you have to get a victory license.

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Yeah, you have to applaud.

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We're just trying to find a way.

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Usually we don't usually do much more than

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one event a month, but it is difficult to sustain financially and pay for the space

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of one event a month, which I are best. So I'm just trying to figure out a way

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where in the case where there's a problem with a permit or in the case that we would

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like to do another smaller event with alcohol in a month, how we can go about

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doing that. So I guess we can follow up on the final and special events permit, not

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with a class at a license and potentially having a class pre-decaturated or

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come in. So what you're looking to do is kind of circumvent and run a

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nightclub one time a month and not be normal business but be a nightclub.

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What would the other option be in terms of like more permanently? We don't have

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nightclub licenses, you'd have to go. I mean I'm not sure it's everything is

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still faced around like having artists and gallery artists of all kinds. We just did a fashion

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show with seven different designers from Massachusetts and Rhode Island. We do painters. There's

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a lot of different mediums of reshining bringing together through this inquiry and economy for like

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local artists to get together and network as well as a financial economy. So yeah, just trying to

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not try to make like a nightclub this the last thing in the US want there to be honest. It's a lot

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responsibility and we each have our own lives to tend to but it is something nice to have

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in our community as far as not having a space for us to do these events and like I said,

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give an economy for artists in our network. So yeah, I'm just trying to figure out a way

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that we can do if we want to do another small event to help supplement the space and create more.

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revenue as well as do some different things.

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So I will follow up with the solicitor on that issue and I think that's about it for me if you guys have any questions.

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Mr. President, I certainly have some questions and I may be missing form and I just turned 50 a couple of months ago so I may be old.

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But my idea of an art show would be, you have, you know, I walk into your establishment,

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I see art hanging, I see sculptures, I see other different types of art, and I'm walking

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around maybe with my wife and a glass of more love and we're thinking about bidding on

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this picture or that piece of sculpture okay this whole time that's what I

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had in my mind but what's happening there is not that it takes the form as

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I have more of a once a month club with DJs and I have a police report here

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from a gentleman that was intoxicated who says stated that there was no art on display.

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Yeah, we talked to the police chief about that and that is a completely ridiculous claim.

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We've invited the police inside of our space multiple times and I think that they could directly dispute

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the claim of this person who I don't know who it is, but our entire space is completely riddled

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with sculpture and fabrication art, metal with fabrication.

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Our walls are completely covered with gallery art and paintings.

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We have temporary walls set up inside the venue with paintings and other art.

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We have projection artists projecting literally every square inch of our space is completely covered

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in some form of art.

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And in one way or the other, and we definitely consider the music art as well when it's a part

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of the ITC experience that would offer?

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Like, and I could be way off.

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I sort of googled reliquarium and I saw all these pitches of essentially, it looked

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like a rave.

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I don't know if that was your establishment or some other establishment so I'm going to

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give you the benefit of that out but it's just reading these police reports and it certainly

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gives me points.

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which, other than that, one police report from this person?

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Well, there was a police report that was taken.

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The fellow that was intoxicated was December 17th.

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And then it looks like I'm not

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curious why January 21st

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did you, you had a function without obtaining a license from us?

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I'd have to refer back to that, but we apply for licenses unless it's a private event,

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which we don't do often at all.

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But I'm also just curious why this, why a police support like that would be your first

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reference, like for something like that, when the police and, I mean, just in our last event

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we had for a police show up, and they mentioned that they were sent there, we did not have a

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I know I was complaining.

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So they've had a perfect look at our space

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and what we're doing multiple times.

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So I think that maybe they would be a better reference

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to check into as far as like what we actually do,

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than a person who I can't even confirm is in our space.

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But yeah, there's music at our events,

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and people who are adults like to come out

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and dance to music,

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and I don't think that discredits the artistic nature of what we do around, or definitely very proud of the amount of diverse.

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It just seems like when we think of a special event, I think we think of one of our business establishments having a special event.

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So, it's not the main source of the income where it's something that is special.

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Maybe they come to us two or three times a year and have an event similar to the, you

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know, I think, what President Maxson is referencing is on Higgins and Avenue, there's, uh,

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uh, uh, Car show, right?

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So typically, this establishment does, I think, paintball or something like that, but they're

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having a special event once a year, a car show, and it just seems like you're

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coming in every month asking for a special use, a special permit, and a special

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liquor license where it's supposed to be special, not. I mean, we're utilizing the

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amount of special licenses that were offered per year, so I don't really see why.

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If it's set up to allow a 10 per year, then I don't understand why I would be wrong with us to utilize this.

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We're figuring it out as we go.

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We're trying our best to work with you guys, to work with the Lord at least.

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We've done so in the past years in which we're trying to do what we do as well through this.

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We're going to try to interrupt that sort of ball state because you said you tried to work with us.

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So the last time we met with you, there was an issue about the license is not being paid

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and we had all these excuses coming from you guys about how busy you are and you could

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get here.

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Didn't know how to pay the bill and you expected us to reach out and beg you to come in and

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I mean there was a lot of that stuff going on.

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So you, you know, you wonder why we're a little bit, you know, I'm not finished yet, I'm not

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finished yet.

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We're a little standoffish to your attitude towards this body and towards the clerk and towards

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town hall.

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So, you know, you're coming in tonight and you're asking us questions like,

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we're on the stand here at your at your leisure. I mean it's, we have questions for you too.

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Yeah, absolutely. I'm more than happy to answer any questions and I don't.

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And now my attention to all of me, any of you feel like you're on the stand and respectfully

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just trying to see what I can do to do my job better in this situation.

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I'm not the one who's been talking with you guys normally.

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But I am taking over more responsibility as far as this area of what we do, which is why I'm making an effort to come on and talk with you guys.

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And I apologize if you guys feel this respect in any way from any past conversations, because it's definitely my personal intention to have a friend of your relationship with you guys.

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And be the best that I can to follow your guidelines and learn what exactly I need to do.

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If I may Ms. President, so we're very transparent up there and we would hope anybody that comes

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for us transparent. I think another problem is we've dealt with the young lady from your place,

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we're dealing with a lot of different places. It's a lot easier for them to deal with one face all

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the time. Yeah. So we can have the answers we're looking for.

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We're very fair, we're very business

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friendly. We don't like to be hoodwinked or someone's playing a game on us and stuff like that. We're

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very fear if you come to us and you say this is what I want to do and we feel it fits

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within those rules and regulations, 99.9% of the time I'm going to do it, but I mean

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there's some things that just ain't had enough yet, like the police report, I read that

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and it's a little concerning. I mean, you don't know who this person was that said there was

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no ought in the building, granted maybe they were in another place, another place.

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There's more spaces in that building that have events.

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There's been issues with neighboring places

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such as the gym, which has had literal satins at their location.

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So we've kind of have been the past and mistakenly

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longed into some other other things like that.

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And just so you know, to go back to the beginning,

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we are in like a bit of a transition period, which is why I'm

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starting to come in and talk with you guys more

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is that area of the building and the venue is something that I'm going to be

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taking over more control of and potentially as well as as an expire because

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I think from day one dealing with us we've always been pretty accommodating with

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you folks and trying to I mean the young lady that came up there about the

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payment was just she had more more excuses than anything I've ever seen in my life

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yeah they have a lot going on so yeah I mean so I mean it's it's it's hard for us to to sit here

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and that question what's going on and this you like I said she was I didn't know like a pay online

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I didn't know I had to come to town all to pay I didn't know this I didn't know that like if you're

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gonna run an event you should probably know what the heck you gotta do yeah that would that that's

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been a problem is there's no written kind of script for doing this thing in front of the beginning

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This has been kind of like a it seems like a bit of a different thing for the town in general

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So we're just like on the fly trying to find out I can't speak for them in terms of their private interactions with you

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It's stuff that I have in there, but at least for myself like um, I would just assume if someone was gonna run

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To something at your place and they would know they have to come see you

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They cannot be like oh, I had to come to town. Oh, I couldn't be online. It was just

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I mean, it's been problem sum not getting straight answers and dealing with one person that comes

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to real problem.

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You know what I mean?

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It's customer Rousseau's district so of course he's going to want to really, you know,

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need to lend on it, make sure everything's done right because he's the one that's going

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to have to hear all the problems.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And we can understand.

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We want to help in the open and be good to business but I mean business is also going to

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play well back with us.

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Let us know what's going on.

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Absolutely.

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That's my straightforward. We don't want our businesses to have to utilize our belief so fire unless they really have to

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I'm looking at this here

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This is an advertisement for your art show. That is a preliminary fire

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Which just features the music. Yeah, it doesn't I mean, I can you have to agree if I'm looking at this it looks like

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Club night. I mean you do look at a lot of things and making assumptions

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based off of like one piece of the puzzle but I can let I can send you multiple different

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flyers that have a lot more information with that it's it takes time when you're rolling

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on event three months in advance and to put all the information in once there's a lot of organizing

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to do with the artists and stuff and that goes in sort of a tiered structure but I can let you know

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right now for that out we had 17 visual artists represented seven artists and vendors represented

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six performing artists such as dancers and seven music artists represented so yeah I think I'm

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going to go back to what Coltsman-Russel said though. No art is being advertised on that. The

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literal flyer is the design of the owl is a design that looking where does it say come and support

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What you're modest, where's it say artist for sale?

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Where's it say?

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So that's what I call a fly right now.

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I call that's a later iteration of that flyer,

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which literally has all this information on it.

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But this one has one flyer.

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Nothing on it.

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It has something on it.

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It has music artists.

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And it has art that we have designed ourselves

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that was fabricated into a giant structure made out of metal.

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It's yeah, it's a representation of a portion of what we're doing and there is art involved

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They I'm looking at your site right now, so they all they all look like this so they're all music based I

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mean

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That goes back to May this one's October

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I think we can like if you guys want to have

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No, no, this is not for debate. We're telling you where we're sitting up here. What it appears that it appears that what you're trying to do

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There's be a nightclub one night a month and you're trying to circumvent that by going into

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by saying that it's tied to art and using a special event license and we do not have nightclubs

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in the town. We have no license for that. And a special event is something that gets granted to you.

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It's not something that you have a right to. It's not something that everybody can have ten

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a minute. Right. It can apply. It doesn't mean that they have to be approved. That is in.

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Okay, so where we're coming from is what we've seen stuff that we've seen online through Instagrams and stuff at that place makes it look like a

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nightclub more than an art show and my kind of getting that across to you. That's how it seems and when you come up here and you say

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that you need to run a nightclub in order to support your rent and in order to support the

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honest in order to spot this and you have to sell liquor. Well maybe I can use this

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on the place and have them come in and do this and I'll have it as a smaller

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thing but now you know how do we know how many people are going to go through

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the door when you sell and tickets online it really seems that you're trying to

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work around the system and I think I speak for the council and I say we do not

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tolerate that. Definitely not trying to work around the system and also like so

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we're under the I feel like we're being placed under an umbrella of this this

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general normal idea of what an art gallery is and I just don't understand like

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how we are being discounted for the art gallery and the art nature of our

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events because we have music and people dance. You can have an art gallery, you can

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have whatever you want to do with art but when you're selling tickets, when

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you're selling alcohol, when you're open to 130 in the morning, when we have an

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one responsive person who went to your event in the parking lot at 4.30 in the morning

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being abandoned there because it did not have a ride, that brings it to a nightclub level.

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Grave Reeve tonight at the Reliquarium.

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Yeah, it's the experience of all of it.

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This is that right you guys?

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This is March 16th, 2024.

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Do you have a license for that yet?

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You're already advertising it.

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We have not applied for a license.

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But these are all, I mean we could look right here and see it.

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Yeah.

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It's fine. We obviously know everything we put online together, looking at at this point.

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We're not trying to hide anything from you. We invite the police when you send them

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inside of our venue every single time, which is definitely not a nice environment for patients

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at an event to experience. We are not sending the police. The constantly call the police

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I'm going to say go check this place out with someone standing in the place because we didn't go out.

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Could be one of your neighbors.

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Could be one of your neighbors.

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I literally confirmed with him that we had no complaints and they literally told me that they were sitting there.

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Because I don't know who was sitting there.

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I'll tell you, it was me.

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Because I heard it.

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Because the party, your event was still going on and you do not have a license for the event.

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So you still held an event without a license, without a special event license.

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We try to get a special event. I don't care if you try. Let me say it again. Clearly. Yeah. You held an event without a special event license. Are we required to have a special event license on a event under 150 people? We're not serving alcohol.

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If you're happy when it's open and you're selling tickets, how do we know that you have under 150?

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That is why we sent Laura for us to get to see them in that conversation then.

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You can't look for that now?

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I can't, so I cannot do an event because you guys can't prove how many tickets we're selling?

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No, let's back up on this, okay?

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You were selling tickets online.

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Yeah.

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You were advertising an event that you did not have a special event license for.

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Because of that, we wanted law enforcement to go there to see how many people were there and to see what if you were violating the law.

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Yup, and we let them into our venue immediately upon arrival and allowed them to look at anything they wanted and they left satisfied with what they saw.

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We had under 150 people, we sold under 150 tickets.

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So there's no problem. Okay. Okay. Then why am I being like basically yelled at for

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holding an event because you're never listening. You're not using your ears. You're using

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your mouth. I'll try my best. Okay. I'm not sure I'm saying. If you're having an event

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and you're posting events online that you don't have a license for, yes, we're going to send

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someone down there to make sure you're not violating the parameters of the statute. That's

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written. Okay, but we're allowed to have events under 150 people on it. You guys don't give

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me away to show you that we're having under 150 people and you need to send

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the cops and I guess that's the way that we have to do it but that seems

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like a ridiculous way to handle a situation but if you want to send the

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cops and every time we have a amount without a permit I guess we'll just have to

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deal with that the best we can. Mr. President, what would we might have to do

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eventually? There's an ask for a pay detail if that's what's gonna happen if

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every time the one I've an event.

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We'll have to have a paid police officer detail here.

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If that's going to be a case,

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well, I mean, it could be seem like I'm doing anything

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outside of the house.

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What I'm saying is, if we can require that as the board

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that decides if you have these events or not, you'll say

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in how can we tell if the one that's 50 people are a police

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officer will be able to come ahead when they come in.

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And that's the only having a police officer on the other

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You don't want to just, you don't want to just set me, you just said it was, how, how, how, how, I get a little figure out a way to let you people know?

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Yeah, I know. And that's one solution. I got a number of disaster. And that is the only solution to, uh,

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could take care of that. Could I ask a question?

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Yes.

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So this special event that wasn't licensed, was there alcohol being served?

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Absolutely not.

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And we allowed the cops in and they seemed like they were concerned with that fact, which I kind of expected.

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Could I, could I, could I, we have the chief in house tonight if I could ask the chief?

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Yep.

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Uh-huh.

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Yes, on that night, I sent officers up there.

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That he was very, very accommodating. There was outlaw and his statement was, if there's outlaw, they brought it. I didn't sell it. There was a scary guy. I think he should be responsible. Who brings outlaw until the establishment, or until a business? You don't bring outlaw until a pop is shot. Why would you bring an act of an outlaw? And there was a clothing show that night. And there was a wrap with six shirts.

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on it, in that one room. There was anywhere around 75 people in the room, one rat, one rat.

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There was one rat right there.

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Like a wild plenty of video footage to show that.

391
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Sure.

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Other one, yeah.

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But to see that, that's what the police officers told me. There was one rat, you got it.

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Thank you.

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And just so you know, the building is never been inspected by the town building inspected.

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Nor has the fire inspected it in there to see if it's a safe environment to have an event like that.

397
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Thank you.

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Okay,

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next is an update on a neighbor's complaint on Canaveral Restaurant on French Street.

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Mr. Bradley, I have some neighbors here that would like to come up and speak in regards to this.

401
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Sure.

402
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Can you just put them like that?

403
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Thank you.

404
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Thank you.

405
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I know people on the housing company are doing a lot of good.

406
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I know.

407
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Christina Willingham.

408
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You're welcome.

409
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20 plus and three.

410
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Thank you.

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I'm looking.

412
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This is not concerning this restaurant with the odor.

413
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I know the last meeting was there, wanted out.

414
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I don't think this is my place.

415
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I don't think this is my place.

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I'm going to say things wanted a liquid license.

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I know Mr. Del Sesto told him about the odor.

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or they had to get this order taken care of it so they could get the liquor license.

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And they ended up getting the liquor license but they still dealing with the owner.

420
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It's very bad. It's worse than it's other than.

421
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They were here three years ago when they started, it was that then you could actually see it coming out of the chimney.

422
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That's how it was so thick. And you call it and you ask the hell.

423
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So I called the town, nothing we can do about it, so he ends up calling other people.

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I didn't even call the governor's office, but I wanted to know what anybody could do about

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this because it is so strong that you can't go outside.

426
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And right now with this new owner, it is so bad that it burns your eyes.

427
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You just cannot go outside.

428
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So we're in our homes, we can't even go outside and enjoy our yachts.

429
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It's that bad.

430
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and you go and you talk to somebody and nothing more like Bruce came over, it's not, it's a wave, it will come over in a wave, it will be bad, it will bring you rise, and then it's going, and then it's fine when it's late, it will come out again, and then it's just so, it's, this moment you wouldn't even be able to stand it for three minutes, if that, and you go over it and I went over there to talk to them when they knew I wanted you to hurry open, because we could already snub it.

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So I asked him, did you get your liquor license, and he just completely ignored me and just kept

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him talking about how great the place is and you should come over here, haven't you ever

433
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been in my guess? I have a glass of wine, and I'm like, well, I guess you've got your liquor

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license. And he just kept on talking, when I ran out the other, and when I'm talking to him,

435
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and this is brutal, the cook came out of the kitchen and started swimming at me.

436
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And this point in me is telling me, I always spend $400 on this.

437
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,340
You're not going to make me do anything else.

438
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,300
And I was way back to the kitchen.

439
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:06,980
He's at you and all this other stuff.

440
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,200
And I looked at the owner and he didn't say anything.

441
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,340
He just kept on talking about how great the place is, being my guest.

442
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,200
And I said, no, I don't want to talk to him.

443
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,940
I'm going to go home.

444
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,380
So I went back home.

445
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,100
And this is that going on for three years.

446
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:25,720
in this right now with the new order, it's worse than now.

447
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,640
It's almost plastic. I don't even call it an odor anymore.

448
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:30,620
I call it pollution.

449
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Because if you look up the definition of pollution,

450
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:37,300
it's when it affects the environment and makes people sick.

451
00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:40,560
So it makes us sick, burning our eyes.

452
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,080
So we don't, you know, we want to know why they are continuing

453
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,480
to be in business.

454
00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:50,620
When I call them, and I've been over there,

455
00:34:50,620 --> 00:34:52,340
and it's the same thing over again.

456
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,340
And what they told me one time, the old owner,

457
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,260
and he said, well, you can't do anything about it.

458
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,020
We're not open on one day.

459
00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:02,520
I said, you're not open on one day,

460
00:35:02,620 --> 00:35:03,940
but you're still cooking on one day.

461
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,740
And that's all they get to say to you,

462
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,140
well, we're not open on one day.

463
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:08,840
I said, so that must be the only day

464
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,340
that we can go outside then.

465
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:12,620
It's serious.

466
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,960
It's not all of this is just an order.

467
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:18,120
It's really an actually prevention from going out.

468
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:24,760
Like, my back windows had never been open in three years, you know, and it's, I wasn't

469
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,340
going to get into this, but I'm going to have to, I have curtains that I've worked

470
00:35:28,340 --> 00:35:31,140
to put over my windows to keep that order out.

471
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:40,440
And I've also put, you know, the, um, the drag lockers all around, in my back room, and I've

472
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,900
also put plastic sheeting on the windows outside to keep that order from coming into my home.

473
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:54,940
Because that's what it's doing. It's coming into my home now. It's that that it's oil and spices and oil and spices. I

474
00:35:54,940 --> 00:36:00,100
Evacuate up you know and they and they sent so when that order comes in it comes right into my eyes

475
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:06,960
Right into my home and it goes past my home on to Hope Street. So dubbing floodger that was not hope street

476
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,980
I talked to him. He says I can smell it on the head because it's really bad today

477
00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:15,820
So you can imagine how bad it is where I live if it's going over at Hope Street

478
00:36:15,820 --> 00:36:22,020
If you're not what holds for you this, you know, it's bad and I think that's just it's

479
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:29,180
It's concerning it should be it should be checked into so they use it all the time you find out what they did wrong

480
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,300
They didn't they didn't buy the filter that they were supposed to get

481
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,060
$400 that's not what they were supposed to be spending. They not only have the

482
00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:39,340
The young

483
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:42,620
Whatever they were supposed to buy they didn't buy that

484
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,100
So, Ms. Willonane called me several times,

485
00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:51,060
and I've gone over there,

486
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:53,280
I've been able to make it a few times,

487
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:55,100
but work is kind of not allowed me

488
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:55,780
to get over there sometime.

489
00:36:56,380 --> 00:37:00,260
The times I've been there, I've smelled a cooking,

490
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,620
but I've been smelling as strong as she is,

491
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,340
and she tells me it's, they're not the hand man.

492
00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:07,760
You know, and I just, I can't get there.

493
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:12,000
I've talked to her about this.

494
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,940
I've never got no complaints from anybody else,

495
00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:15,360
but I see there's other folks here tonight.

496
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,820
I know some people might just be too nervous to complain.

497
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,840
One person did complain about the place one day there was trash left outside the door.

498
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,280
Excuse me, I went over there, spoke to the folks in there, made him move all the trash.

499
00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:33,200
I don't know that it's happened again because I've never got another complaint so they complied

500
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,860
with that when I went over there and asked him.

501
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:38,120
You have to ask my name, but she's the one who sent me this.

502
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:39,560
Excuse me.

503
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:40,360
I got a little cold.

504
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,540
So, I went over there and they complied with it.

505
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:49,580
I just haven't been able to be over there the time, where she says it smells like that's

506
00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:52,180
why can't sit there and go, yes I've smelled it.

507
00:37:52,740 --> 00:38:00,120
When I call, it's when it's bad, not a lot of times people can't just drop anything and

508
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,860
come over when it's bad, because you've got to come over, they say, like, Phil told me,

509
00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:10,080
call me and I'll come over, but you've got to come over when I call you, you know, because

510
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,960
it's going to come in and then it's going to leave. Five minutes later it'll be back again.

511
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,320
It's like a wave, you know, but it's, it's, I'm going to say it's brutal. It's something

512
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,400
that you just, we shouldn't be out there, you know, having to breathe that.

513
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:31,380
And I do know that supposedly our field have to answer this but our gentlemen from the town

514
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:36,020
went over there and inspected the system they put in and they've seen the receipts and stuff

515
00:38:36,020 --> 00:38:42,420
like that. So, um, if it is a filter, maybe they need a different filter, but I don't know.

516
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:48,100
Interesting. Right. I can tell you that, um, when you go for a inspection, they inspect the

517
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:54,460
kitchen. They look at everything. The fridges, the food, how it's prepared, the, the, the, the

518
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:59,800
sole, everything in the kitchen, and then look to see if you have ventilation, but that's it.

519
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:03,680
They're not going to go and stand on the root to see if there's an odor coming out of it,

520
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,240
or go around the block.

521
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:10,580
I don't think that's the occasion he did specifically go to look for that because we kind

522
00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:11,900
of ordered them to do that.

523
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,220
And he told us it was there.

524
00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:19,600
So I don't know if I just, I don't really have an answer.

525
00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:21,040
I really don't.

526
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:21,940
That's a good answer.

527
00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:28,600
I know this past Sunday, because I was sick, but I know my neighbor said, we do out Sunday

528
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,320
and I said no, I wasn't able to go out to actually.

529
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,060
It was very very strong.

530
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:39,460
when it is is that you know we review the agenda last evening and I saw this on

531
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:45,220
the agenda I left here it's probably around 6.45 driving home I go across

532
00:39:45,220 --> 00:39:50,620
116 past the high school all over the road and I saw the cloud the cloud from

533
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:55,440
watercraft and it's usually happens about that time of day and it's been going on

534
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,940
there's Councilman Rousseau said since he was playing football like in high school

535
00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:01,100
Well, that's going to be what, 40-50 years ago?

536
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:01,580
Wow.

537
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:01,960
Come on.

538
00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:02,300
I just thought.

539
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:11,760
So, my point is, is that restaurants, businesses, they exhaust various, you know,

540
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,080
fuels, whether it's Indian food, whether it's coffee, whether it's Angela's Italian food,

541
00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:18,320
Greek food.

542
00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:24,260
I mean, it is, I don't know what we can do other than what we've already done is require them

543
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:25,120
to put a scrubber in.

544
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,560
So, you're not able to go outside?

545
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:27,320
I don't know.

546
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,260
Well, let me finish what I'm trying to say, and I'm not trying to cut you off, but

547
00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:34,240
at the point, I have a friend of mine who lives in that neighborhood and she hates the

548
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:39,560
smell of autocrat coffee, but she realized, you know, she bought her house and there's

549
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,440
a restaurant, I mean, that restaurant, there's a coffee roaster in the neighborhood and that's

550
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,020
part of, unfortunately, you know, part of her neighborhood.

551
00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:53,560
You're not going to shut autocrat coffee down, you know.

552
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,020
I'm not trying to belittle what you're dealing with, I'm just saying is, you know, I live in

553
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:05,180
Mandel and I sometimes get the smell of Winsak, it's sewer being burned up in Winsak, you know,

554
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:13,160
I've been living in my house for 38 years, all together we can 45, 46, you know, and I just can't,

555
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:23,540
I just can't imagine anything like this ever happening to us because we've got this, we've got this

556
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:39,500
We got a lot of things that have happened, but, you know, you've got somebody that comes in and I appreciate people having a business, but during a meeting on my life, you know, where I don't have company, I can't let people come to sit in my bad god and read that stuff, but it is bad.

557
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:49,540
But I don't think we have any, if I'm speaking incorrectly, Mr. Solicitor, I don't think we have any authority to shut a restaurant down over exhaust from cooking.

558
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:54,160
can come over? No, I'm just saying I don't think we have the authority. I would agree

559
00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:00,080
constantly. So that's I guess where I'll go. I don't think there's other than what

560
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,600
we've done by requiring them to put up an exhaust scrubber to get their liquor

561
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,560
license. I don't think there's much more we can do.

562
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,600
So I'm stuck in the house and I

563
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,960
can't go out. You know this this someone was it was horrible this summer because

564
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:24,400
because I usually, you know, I open up the pool, I have a pool, and we usually have anybody

565
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,820
over and I didn't have anything this summit because I just couldn't, I didn't have people

566
00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:35,480
subject to this sit in my yard and be gagging because and your eyes are burning. This is how bad

567
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,900
it is, it's not over-smell. No, this is actually hurting us to be outside. And that's going

568
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:48,260
be something something you should look into. It's not that's not normal just you know it's an order.

569
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,300
Maybe we can just make sure that they're checking that filter and keeping it clean enough.

570
00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:04,980
We don't know that so maybe we can do that. The filter that I believe they have it's not the one

571
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:09,800
they were supposed to get. I think the filter that they have just takes whatever is in the rest line

572
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,380
and gets all back and just sends it off.

573
00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:13,320
Well, we've checked.

574
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,840
We've probably needed to check on it.

575
00:43:16,340 --> 00:43:17,960
What you've said earlier,

576
00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:24,020
struck me because I'm pretty,

577
00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:26,000
I have a pretty bad asthma.

578
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:27,840
And my name is old.

579
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,760
I have five pets.

580
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:29,300
Yeah.

581
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,920
And I have to do what you do.

582
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:35,840
The small, I have an old house.

583
00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:38,360
It's built in the sixties.

584
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:47,060
So I cut the door, I was growing up, my dad couldn't use the fire place because of my asthma.

585
00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:54,080
So right now I put these little Mickey Mouse candlesticks to pretend it's a fire.

586
00:43:55,740 --> 00:44:02,860
But I can't understand what you're saying about having to fortify putting the plastic on.

587
00:44:02,860 --> 00:44:08,040
I mean, it looks ridiculous, but that's what I have to do.

588
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,600
I can't go to my neighbors and tell them to put their fire out of it.

589
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:13,080
It's normal.

590
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,300
I can't.

591
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:14,900
It's not a thing.

592
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Yeah.

593
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:22,960
I can't, because I feel it's not really a comparison to where I'm from.

594
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,240
Oh.

595
00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:24,980
You're really isn't it?

596
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:25,840
Yeah.

597
00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:27,200
It just hit me that way.

598
00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:28,080
Don't type like this.

599
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:28,300
Yeah.

600
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:29,520
I'm just being in that.

601
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:32,740
But, yeah, like, when you check out the filter,

602
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,760
it's, and I wasn't going to talk about this,

603
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,060
but see, when I called a while back,

604
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,760
and I told Phil this to,

605
00:44:41,060 --> 00:44:44,200
when I called a while back to ask them,

606
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,520
I called the governor's office,

607
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:48,160
told me to call the health department,

608
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,000
and the health department told me,

609
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,000
you need to call the building department in your town.

610
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:55,500
So, I did, and I had this woman

611
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,960
and then that enter the phone and talk to me like I was garbage.

612
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:27,960
In plain English, she said to me, what do you want us to do about this? I'm like, you are supposed to come here. Why haven't you come here yet? Just to see how bad it is, what smell, how bad it is, and do what? This is how this woman talked me. And do what? We're going to see how it is. I'm going to tell you the same thing over and over again. We can't do anything about it. And I said, who's we? I wonder who we, is it just you? Or is there a bunch of people that are getting together to tell me?

613
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,040
And then I said to her what we tell us what we should do was why don't you just move?

614
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:38,280
So what this woman said, my mother's blessed soul, she told me to move

615
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,480
That's where your employees

616
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:48,620
You know, this is this is outrageous that you're gonna tell anybody that calls you. Well, if you don't like it move

617
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,780
This president just I can't so I was not aware of that direction and I apologize

618
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:57,880
Did you ever find out who she is?

619
00:45:58,940 --> 00:46:00,360
There's only a couple of people in each of them

620
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,380
because we have a film.

621
00:46:02,620 --> 00:46:05,160
I'm not aware that I certainly wouldn't condone

622
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,680
the depot of failure, activity,

623
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:08,580
or a lack of respect for reasons.

624
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,040
I don't say it.

625
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,520
In bullying, we talk several times.

626
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:15,580
I did it for three weeks.

627
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:18,260
And again, I know you've called and said

628
00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:19,300
you got a grandson of now,

629
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,300
what I'd be in the meeting,

630
00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:21,140
or getting a middle of something,

631
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:22,420
but for three weeks,

632
00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:24,180
I don't buy that because I live.

633
00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:27,100
I'm just saying half doesn't reach over from where you are.

634
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:32,060
But I drive on my way to work, I drive down there to do it, and I drive by there to the evening.

635
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:36,420
For three weeks, three times, I just throw action to a picture on my phone to show my track

636
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:36,920
in my car.

637
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:41,180
And I would go down to the homestead, I'd go sit in front of me, I was on a passenger's

638
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:42,360
street, and I didn't stop.

639
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,720
And I'm not saying that it doesn't go away, it's just going to be a time.

640
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,080
But I've never been there to do stuff in those three weeks.

641
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:51,320
I've actually sent them from the parking lot over there.

642
00:46:51,320 --> 00:47:01,420
I don't, I, I haven't spelled it, but I'm not saying that you haven't spelled it, but we have, I know what Councilman only is, is gone over there, I had a thought over the two.

643
00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:13,040
I don't know what resolution is, my conversation with the solicitor before was that at this point might be a civil action on your portfolio, you, you, you and your neighbors.

644
00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:20,820
I'm not sure what tools are the tools for the account counsel to enforce action on the

645
00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:21,140
account.

646
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,320
I can't seem to say that I smell that if I haven't smelled it.

647
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,920
So I'm not sure whether it sits with the counsel or the solicitors, but I'm certainly

648
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:31,140
eating.

649
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,720
I know people that you're here with tonight, and I have so much respect for all of you.

650
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,260
And I know many of you for a long time.

651
00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:37,580
I understand.

652
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,740
It's just a very precarious situation that we're out right now.

653
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:46,480
But as far as the employee, you can either, the data that

654
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,940
phone call happens, I will be happy to look into it,

655
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,620
have a conversation.

656
00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:51,500
And what about them?

657
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,840
What about me walking over there into talk to them?

658
00:47:54,820 --> 00:47:57,820
You know, a friendly manner in having that cook

659
00:47:57,820 --> 00:47:59,240
come out of this, that's where we have been.

660
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,860
This is what we have in our neighborhood.

661
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:05,040
And now we've lived here two, one, and had such a tight community

662
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,760
to have somebody come over and take advantage.

663
00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:10,220
And not only care about the neighborhood

664
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:11,760
with that they came into.

665
00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:13,940
So they're not residents, I am.

666
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:20,980
Mr. Brother, if you want to find me, I would ask the administrator if he could set up a time

667
00:48:20,980 --> 00:48:22,700
where I could go over there with the building inspector.

668
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:28,120
And we can look at this system and hopefully it'll be in an area where I can see to see if

669
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,480
there's a filter that's clogged or something that's going on.

670
00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:36,740
And then I'd like to do a little research to, or maybe someone from the town to do a little

671
00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:43,740
research with some of the other Indian restaurants that are around the state and see if there's

672
00:48:43,740 --> 00:48:50,940
a system. I'm very compassionate to what she's going through. Again, unfortunately, I haven't

673
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:58,640
smelled it, but she's been very, we've been in very, very much contact. I really want to find

674
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,200
a solution for her. So I just wonder if I could maybe go over there with him with the building

675
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,920
expect that he can show me where I don't know any of this stuff. I don't know what, I don't know

676
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,480
what I was expecting from my house man. They think they're house man. Now because they've been

677
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,200
inspected, it's nothing to do with what's coming out of there and is it they're choking us.

678
00:49:16,540 --> 00:49:21,780
I don't know but I'm saying if the filters clogged, but if something's different, I'm just looking

679
00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:26,420
for ways to resolve this, or at least trying to resolve it for you. I probably could like that.

680
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:32,580
So I mean, I guess if I could set up an appointment, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, during the day,

681
00:49:32,580 --> 00:49:36,340
if I could give you a call tomorrow for like a try just so I can go over there and just

682
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:40,240
look and see if there's something clogged up maybe the filter ain't sitting in the spot

683
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:44,080
that it's supposed to be in right whatever maybe something's not right and we're just going

684
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,720
to take a look at it and maybe it's off a little bit neat and then you smell going through the

685
00:49:48,720 --> 00:50:02,560
filter through a side of something like we have and you know we have a social put that we

686
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,540
can't smell it. You might smell it. What day is it you win? You might smell it. If

687
00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:11,060
they're cooking certain things on such a day that you can smell it when you get to the door,

688
00:50:11,420 --> 00:50:17,380
which you're not smelling it around the block. And that's a big restaurant. It's not a restaurant.

689
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:23,960
It's a social club and it's a cook. This person I feel is not really a cook. It's just

690
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,420
somebody that comes in and cooks the food, but not really has the knowledge of what they're

691
00:50:30,220 --> 00:50:33,060
But I don't know if they're telling him it's bad, you know.

692
00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:38,180
I'd like to do things hands on to so I'd like to see this for myself.

693
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,400
So if I could do that and listen, when I spoke to him the last time about the trash and

694
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:49,440
very accommodating, I don't want to go on there like a bowl and I don't choose to.

695
00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:53,440
I think it was very disrespectful the way they talked to you and the owner shouldn't let

696
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,000
that happen.

697
00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:56,520
But I can't do nothing about that.

698
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:04,440
What I can do is go in there, hopefully with the town engineer and not the town engineer the building inspector look and sit down in the

699
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:11,840
And I want no more work on it. I'm not enough, but if I can go in there and after that, I mean, I

700
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,600
will try and

701
00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:19,540
See if we can ask someone from town just do a little research and ask what these other places use for filtration system

702
00:51:19,540 --> 00:51:23,820
See if the those cities and towns have gotten complaints from the neighbors around

703
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:28,940
they're in the restaurants and see if if they haven't whatever system they

704
00:51:28,940 --> 00:51:32,920
might be worth using works. I mean I know I checked there wrong they have

705
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,120
another restaurant I promise and they don't have good reviews over here so

706
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,620
you want to check that out. I mean I'll use them but that's province. I mean I like

707
00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:45,960
I said I'll try and I'll call Phil tomorrow and try and set something on. I don't

708
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,160
know that it's going to resolve the issue but at least it's me taking a look and

709
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,960
with the building inspector and I can at least say I don't know anything about

710
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:57,980
I knew there's stuff, but does that filter look like it's sitting right? Does that filter look like it needs to be changed just is that system still?

711
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,480
I mean, it could be new, but I mean, when you're cooking that much, I mean, I would imagine you could get clogged up pretty quick.

712
00:52:06,020 --> 00:52:15,840
I guess that they were cooperative when I went over there. I mean, I know it's a different story or a resident, not a town official, so I'm sure they see a town official.

713
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,580
like, well, I better be on my best behavior. Again, the way they spoke to you is so uncalled for, it's not fun.

714
00:52:22,180 --> 00:52:27,980
And I call them, like, I'll be, I'll need to get, you have to hurry up and get out of your house and get in your car.

715
00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:34,720
And vice versa, you don't want it, it's, it's a horrible smell. It's, you know, you can love it and you like the food.

716
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,340
You can take a bath in it for a while I can't, but I don't want to smell it.

717
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,200
You don't like the food?

718
00:52:39,420 --> 00:52:42,240
Well, I can't. I'm being forced to smell the stuff.

719
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,160
I'm just joking, I'm sorry. I wasn't appropriate.

720
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,680
I'm trying to make light of it.

721
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,480
Yes, I was going to do parochi but I have a lot of joy to do.

722
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,180
I don't know if anybody else wants to speak in regards to this but that's what I'd like to do.

723
00:52:57,620 --> 00:53:02,400
I had my friend, Cathy, and Katie.

724
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:04,520
You must know who she is.

725
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,220
She said, you want to stop over?

726
00:53:06,220 --> 00:53:07,960
She was leaving, I said stop by and over.

727
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:13,060
She got under, got in my drive and got out and got his driver's in my door and did this.

728
00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:16,160
Because I can't believe how bad it is.

729
00:53:16,420 --> 00:53:17,700
She's here doing what I asked her.

730
00:53:18,180 --> 00:53:19,440
But that's what she was.

731
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,660
People are just...

732
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,540
She's my name.

733
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,180
What is that?

734
00:53:25,340 --> 00:53:27,480
I took a ride just outside by side.

735
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,180
And it's like almost like an alley and this is where the odor comes in.

736
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,780
It comes straight through both of our yards.

737
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,800
And then it takes off to Hope Street.

738
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:44,560
This is the way it is and, you know, I'm trying to get hold of somebody that can go over and feed it up and just say, you know

739
00:53:46,180 --> 00:53:50,820
Something something is bad. Some people do you know I've even actually

740
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:58,920
Tony was never back out with one day. Yeah, Kudos didn't true because he and he tried to make another another chance to get over there

741
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,640
I just don't but I mean, yeah, he read the same time

742
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:08,400
But let me see on that and what we can do about going and they're taking a look at seeing if there's anything out of place and this and that

743
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,140
just

744
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:13,880
On our own on my end just so because I'm just looking for a solution

745
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:20,620
Three years. I know we've talked for three years

746
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:24,500
Yeah, and that anything that bothers me is when I can't resolve something for so much

747
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,440
I get it wasn't gonna do this because I you know

748
00:54:27,980 --> 00:54:39,240
This upsets me a lot and this song because my grandchildren were away a lot, you know, I can't and I had two of my grandchildren over and if he had a look on the slip over to me going with the pool

749
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:45,500
So when I get ready to close it, I already took one of the stairs out so you can still go in and I said, but I don't know

750
00:54:46,340 --> 00:54:53,340
This is what I have to say to them, I don't know. So they're in the pool, I'm sitting on the deck with the towel over the office

751
00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:04,360
So I said, well, it's time to come in, you know, you've got soccer in the morning, come on, you're going to go in, and they got out of the pool, and I got their towels, and their towels reaped of this odor.

752
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:11,780
It reaped. So I put them down and went and got the new towels, and I said, you know, get that eye and just go in the house.

753
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:19,140
Yeah, you can't be out here anymore. And when Randall turned around and looked at me and said, it's okay, never smells really bad out there. I want to go in.

754
00:55:19,660 --> 00:55:25,940
And I'm just, I broke up in tears because when I get in my house, I can smell it in my

755
00:55:25,940 --> 00:55:26,280
ear.

756
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,320
That's, to me, that's invasion.

757
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:35,400
It's an invasion-wide property, me, personal, you know, and that's, that's just not,

758
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:35,940
not right.

759
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,680
That shouldn't be happening.

760
00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:43,240
You know, you can have an older, but when you're, when it's absolutely attacking people and

761
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:48,540
causing them to be ill, burning your eyes, I mean, that's good at being something that easily

762
00:55:48,540 --> 00:55:54,500
checked out that's not that's not a normal way for us not to you know to have an

763
00:55:54,500 --> 00:56:01,260
exhaust coming on you know if it was like a dumb and don't it but I all right no

764
00:56:01,260 --> 00:56:05,520
I did when I was a kid I grew up next to a bakery but this is something that is

765
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:11,780
so so intense and so strong I just can't stay outside maybe I think the name of

766
00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:26,160
Well, my name is Lydia Frater, I've been here since 1994, I live a 14-poison street.

767
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:28,760
We do have a problem.

768
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,340
We have a problem with the smell, we have a problem with rats.

769
00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:41,260
My husband called 12 of them last year, actually 13 altogether.

770
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:45,520
Yes, what Chris says is true.

771
00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:47,360
We can't even breathe in a backyard.

772
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,220
It's awful.

773
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,140
It's now terrible.

774
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,800
Something needs to be done.

775
00:56:57,020 --> 00:57:01,240
I am very upset and stressed regarding it to this situation.

776
00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:14,540
Because at the last time when we can't get to the meeting, like she says, they said they're only going to give the license for the liquor license as they're going to put a new fence.

777
00:57:15,740 --> 00:57:24,560
I've been in trouble in a lot of places, there's Indian restaurants, New York and other places, we don't smell this.

778
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:31,540
They must do something, put a new fence, tell whatever it is needs to be done.

779
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,940
They have to do it.

780
00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:35,780
All then the doors needs to be closed.

781
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:39,200
It's impossible to be in a bad car.

782
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:40,560
Impossible.

783
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,960
Not every day, I mean, now all the time, that I know exactly how they call.

784
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:53,720
They put all these spices together, any oil, they let all the spices go, the smell going

785
00:57:53,720 --> 00:58:01,600
is just, I live in a second floor, I own the house, I read the first floor a single father,

786
00:58:02,140 --> 00:58:08,520
and he also complains to the Lydia that smells so bad. It's impossible, it's no way, something

787
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:18,680
needs to be done, something has the power and it's down, gotta do something, gotta do something, that's impossible.

788
00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:27,480
It's crazy, it's just crazy. I have the option to go live in Austin area. When I'm all

789
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:34,220
the sun, why did I shoot with my house to go live with him? He is a modern woman with

790
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:40,920
three bathrooms. Nice neighborhood. I don't want to move. Something needs to do something.

791
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:47,300
And when I can't say, oh, I don't know as we can do something about it, I'm an enemy from

792
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:47,660
truth.

793
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,440
I respect the business, but they have to respect us too.

794
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:55,160
I can shake and I'm nervous.

795
00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:57,080
Something needs to be done.

796
00:58:57,380 --> 00:59:01,700
It's nobody that I'm selling my house because a damn breath is not happening.

797
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,060
And I'm all set.

798
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,180
Thank you very much.

799
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,640
We have to agree to tell you this.

800
00:59:16,020 --> 00:59:22,600
We have, her and I talk about, we call each other all the time, because we can't go out.

801
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,560
And we have one time.

802
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,320
And you think back at all the different times that we talk to each other.

803
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,340
And we're over the fence, talking to each other, and we're both crying.

804
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Because who's going to help? Nobody wants to listen to us.

805
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:39,180
something wants to help us. You know when you keep asking, you know, for help and nobody

806
00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:44,340
comes over and helps us. You know, it's not so much that I've been by, I drove by, you

807
00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:50,360
did it, get on it, come and stand like that, give it about ten minutes because it'll come,

808
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:56,200
it'll go and it's like, you know, a wave. But you've got to feed it to know what we're going

809
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,880
through. It's not anything that anybody should go through. No matter you shouldn't have

810
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:05,680
It's, to me, it's dangerous, because if it's burning my eyes, it can't be helping to breathe.

811
01:00:08,260 --> 01:00:19,440
Well, he's going to follow up with the administrator, excuse me, you just add to it, I tried

812
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,300
while I was sitting on a bunch of restaurants, so I'm sympathetic to the restaurants and

813
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:25,420
to the neighbors of course.

814
01:00:26,220 --> 01:00:31,520
And so I called my friend that was an Indian restaurant and asked him what, he's got several

815
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,800
Could I just ask you to put so much of the answer?

816
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:34,680
Yeah, so he's got several.

817
01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:38,040
He said, he recommends, he doesn't do anything special,

818
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:41,720
but he does monthly filter cleaning and hood cleaning.

819
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:43,880
And he says that helps.

820
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,220
So then I call Joe Christie, who's vice president of Tri-Mark,

821
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,680
nationally, and they do good systems.

822
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,620
He suggested that they work.

823
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,840
There's something called the scrubber system.

824
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,660
So like, if you're in a city, you can't have wood fights.

825
01:00:57,220 --> 01:00:58,320
He says, no, I'm in a city.

826
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,880
I don't want to put an onus on the business, but there are some options out there, maybe

827
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,600
the first one is just cleaning the hood system more often, that would be my recommendation

828
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,860
if there's a compromise here.

829
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,160
I don't know how to spell this.

830
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,940
It's never ending.

831
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:13,500
It's never ending.

832
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,180
I'm just telling you, if you don't mind, if you don't mind, Joe, it's in fish chips file.

833
01:01:18,380 --> 01:01:20,520
It's going to stink or fish chips, and you're just going to ask for it.

834
01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:23,580
So that's kind of the nature of your business.

835
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,680
But I don't know if there's just some commensive solution.

836
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:38,580
This isn't my issue, but I have to be in the immediate past year around House Tower Association, so I started just reaching out to my hospitality folks on what they do, so I truly appreciate it.

837
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:41,560
So I think the numbers of the guys who worked in it.

838
01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:48,640
The scrubber was something that they had to install before they got their liquor license, and they didn't install it and the building inspector had signed off on it.

839
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,760
So that was...

840
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,680
Oh, that wasn't installed.

841
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,780
That was part of the stipulation.

842
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,760
That was part of the stipulation that their liquor license was to install a scrubber.

843
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,420
Yeah, I talked to Joe Christie, he says that's the one thing I should never do it, so.

844
01:02:00,620 --> 01:02:02,800
But that's why he's supposed to check to see what.

845
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,380
He's been in the stock for three years, so should they have been spelling?

846
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:09,900
It's just a question maybe at all.

847
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,460
Yeah, but that was just what I was told.

848
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,320
That's something he's told us.

849
01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:17,540
If I could do this, if I could get...

850
01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:17,880
I'll get you.

851
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:18,820
All right, exactly.

852
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:20,260
No, wait a minute.

853
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,460
Trust me, we appreciate you stepping forward.

854
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:24,820
We're trying to figure out a resolution.

855
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,560
All right, thanks.

856
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:26,280
Thank you.

857
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:27,740
Thank you.

858
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:28,800
What?

859
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:30,320
I just stayed up.

860
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,280
There was a conversation.

861
01:02:31,820 --> 01:02:32,720
You have to come to the mic.

862
01:02:38,050 --> 01:02:39,830
We'll remain 20 plus a street.

863
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:42,170
We have a deal on the display.

864
01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:44,590
Keep we'll remain 24.

865
01:02:44,790 --> 01:02:45,510
Thank you.

866
01:02:45,870 --> 01:02:47,910
Bruce and I had dropped several times.

867
01:02:48,050 --> 01:02:48,990
And so listen up.

868
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:51,770
When they were sitting in my yard one day,

869
01:02:52,970 --> 01:03:05,290
tell me I think you said that it was some type of situation that they infringe on your

870
01:03:05,290 --> 01:03:06,710
livelihood or

871
01:03:08,890 --> 01:03:18,600
your personal how you should hear from this issue of now he's

872
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,780
something we could tell me so it wasn't Tony Tony was with me that day that's his

873
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,620
I just want to clarify that, so he doesn't know what I'm going to say.

874
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,580
You remember this guy?

875
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:30,780
I do remember the conversation.

876
01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:33,280
I just wanted to read that.

877
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:37,340
I think if he said it was a civil situation.

878
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,020
I mean, I'd make this request.

879
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:45,620
You've got to understand how frustrating this neighborhood is.

880
01:03:45,620 --> 01:03:46,580
Listen, I understand it.

881
01:03:46,860 --> 01:03:49,860
I've talked to your wife.

882
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:53,900
Like I said, none of the neighbors have spoken to me, but I've spoken to a few wife.

883
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:55,620
I want it.

884
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,960
I'm a guy that gets pissed off if I can't resolve something for someone that I work for

885
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:01,280
you folks.

886
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:01,960
I really do.

887
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,980
So, I hold on to that.

888
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,080
So, let me do that.

889
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,600
Let me try and get with the building inspector.

890
01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:08,680
Let me do that.

891
01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:14,160
I'm going to talk to the gentleman in the back as much information as I can from him and let

892
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,000
us try and see if we can come up with a solution.

893
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,120
It's been a long time.

894
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,980
I know he's been through a lot three years and I'm about

895
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:29,900
Get to be tied to a high-ranked I understand that so let me get at least let me do my due diligence again on this angle

896
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,980
See I'm not throwing it on the summer. Nothing. I don't use my pool. I have my grandkids

897
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:41,580
So let me do what I can do. What I can't hear Keith and then if that's nothing works. There's nothing works

898
01:04:41,580 --> 01:04:46,080
I've been in this town between owning and living 48 years

899
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,140
And I'll put a full sail sign in the house tomorrow.

900
01:04:49,420 --> 01:04:55,220
So if nothing works, then we can have a conversation with the solicitor and regards to what he said

901
01:04:55,220 --> 01:04:57,660
to you that day and see what he says.

902
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:04,660
I don't know if something the town can do, or if you guys are going to do it on a basis

903
01:05:04,660 --> 01:05:05,320
on your own.

904
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:11,300
But let's get, let me dot some eyes across some T-sphere, stride, see if there's another

905
01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:15,160
way we can eliminate it, and if not, then we go to Tony and say, what was that, what were

906
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:21,420
you were talking about that day and I know Tony's a straight guy. I believe what he said

907
01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:28,540
was to our advantage. I wreck it. I recall that too. It was more of some kind of civil

908
01:05:28,540 --> 01:05:35,120
action or so. I'm not mistaken. I'm not very good in the legal legal area. So let me

909
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,660
do that and please I will follow through. I've followed you on just about everything I said.

910
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,740
I would let me see if I can come up with that. If not, then we'll have a conversation

911
01:05:44,740 --> 01:05:50,660
with Tony and Tony of Directos on what we can do and what you folks can do and what you folks can't do.

912
01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:52,160
Thank you very much.

913
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:52,720
Thank you very much.

914
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:53,640
Yeah, I apologize.

915
01:05:53,900 --> 01:05:54,720
I have to go through this.

916
01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:05,900
Joanne McLaughlin, 45t of street.

917
01:06:06,180 --> 01:06:06,480
Thank you.

918
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,660
I don't know why nobody smells that because I go by there every Saturday night and I'm going

919
01:06:11,660 --> 01:06:12,260
way back from work.

920
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:19,200
Between 5 o'clock, 7 o'clock, and that smell is in my car running over a jet stump all the way down the road.

921
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,060
So you can mock that day for a look because it smells terrible.

922
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,340
You said from what time?

923
01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:32,100
Well I leave about six o'clock at work for more and so it's like between six and seven

924
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:33,000
I'm going by that.

925
01:06:34,980 --> 01:06:37,080
I don't work in Saturday nights so I can make that trip.

926
01:06:37,980 --> 01:06:39,260
Please do because it's horrible.

927
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,300
And even the people that leave in Minnesota and those elderly people, you know, they have

928
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:52,480
issues along and you know daily life. Not being able to go set outside is pretty sad. So it is not a joke.

929
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:54,700
I'll definitely go by that time.

930
01:07:01,330 --> 01:07:01,770
Okay.

931
01:07:03,630 --> 01:07:06,290
Does that conclude the update?

932
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:10,170
I don't think so, Mr. President. Nobody else would like to speak in regards to it?

933
01:07:11,210 --> 01:07:15,410
I would just like to say that I would really like to be able to open my windows.

934
01:07:17,570 --> 01:07:19,170
I'm going to try and make that possible.

935
01:07:21,930 --> 01:07:23,930
In the court of the town council.

936
01:07:24,770 --> 01:07:26,890
The first item is the consent agenda.

937
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:30,910
All items listed in the section are considered in that motion.

938
01:07:31,250 --> 01:07:33,410
There will be no separate discussion of these items,

939
01:07:33,690 --> 01:07:35,090
almost a password or request.

940
01:07:35,890 --> 01:07:38,350
In which event, item will be removed through the consent agenda.

941
01:07:38,970 --> 01:07:40,950
We have the minute approval.

942
01:07:42,190 --> 01:07:43,550
Consideration of local bills.

943
01:07:49,690 --> 01:07:54,370
We have a resolution from the town of Horton, a resolution from the town of Jamestown,

944
01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:59,830
and an email from William conciliates regarding the report of the housing funds award,

945
01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:03,770
and state mandated reports from Vanderbilt fire in the entire department.

946
01:08:05,070 --> 01:08:07,030
Thank you, is there any item on the agenda?

947
01:08:07,110 --> 01:08:08,490
I remember the council looked every move.

948
01:08:08,490 --> 01:08:21,110
Mr. President, I would like to pull all the claims under the storm claims, but 12, 17, 2023, 12, 18, 2023, and also I would like to pull the will-math claim.

949
01:08:21,830 --> 01:08:22,010
Okay.

950
01:08:23,470 --> 01:08:24,590
Is there anything else?

951
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:31,250
As far as I believe, as you can tell us this is here tonight, this is a reference to

952
01:08:31,250 --> 01:08:39,290
having a talented action to approve the approval of the Port of Housing Funds for 2HT's

953
01:08:39,290 --> 01:08:39,890
last year.

954
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:44,250
This is the individual purchasing 16.4 Lons of Latino.

955
01:08:45,270 --> 01:08:45,850
I'll remove that.

956
01:08:46,670 --> 01:08:46,950
Okay.

957
01:08:48,110 --> 01:08:49,170
Is there anything else?

958
01:08:49,670 --> 01:08:49,810
All

959
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:53,010
right.

960
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:54,550
I'll change the motion on the consent agenda.

961
01:08:54,930 --> 01:08:55,350
Motion approved.

962
01:08:55,790 --> 01:08:56,930
Motion approved from Council Mononey.

963
01:08:56,930 --> 01:08:59,470
Second, second by Councilman Pashette, any discussion?

964
01:09:00,350 --> 01:09:01,270
Hearing none all in favor?

965
01:09:01,590 --> 01:09:01,750
Aye.

966
01:09:02,710 --> 01:09:07,290
Councilman of the U.S. will storm clean from 12-17 to 12-18, 2023.

967
01:09:07,950 --> 01:09:08,310
Yes, ma'am.

968
01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:08,770
In a row, Mark.

969
01:09:09,010 --> 01:09:10,150
I'm sorry, Mr. President.

970
01:09:10,670 --> 01:09:13,250
The storm came from 12-17, 12-18, 2023.

971
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:16,690
I'm just going to name a Montclaim, Carrigan Claim,

972
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:19,270
Cruz Claim, Dolomis Claim, Ango Claim,

973
01:09:19,550 --> 01:09:21,890
Ferranti Claim, Robin Claim, Krieger Claim,

974
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:24,970
Lucidi Claim, Ribero Claim, Rodriguez Claim,

975
01:09:27,130 --> 01:09:31,030
I'd like to make a motion to have all of those claims denied and sent to the trust.

976
01:09:31,530 --> 01:09:33,230
Motion to deny and send to the trust.

977
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:34,330
Second.

978
01:09:34,790 --> 01:09:36,490
Seconded by Councilman Peshchep.

979
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:37,030
Any discussion?

980
01:09:38,210 --> 01:09:38,710
On the favour?

981
01:09:39,150 --> 01:09:39,410
Aye.

982
01:09:41,390 --> 01:09:42,270
Councilman Wormaw.

983
01:09:42,530 --> 01:09:47,710
Mr. President, on the Wormaw's claim, I'd also like to make a motion to deny the claim and send

984
01:09:47,710 --> 01:09:48,770
it to the trust also.

985
01:09:49,650 --> 01:09:51,670
Motion to deny and send to the trust of the Councilman.

986
01:09:51,870 --> 01:09:52,110
Second.

987
01:09:52,110 --> 01:09:52,930
Second.

988
01:09:53,130 --> 01:09:53,230
Second.

989
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:53,990
Second by Councilor Fescio.

990
01:09:54,130 --> 01:09:54,690
Any discussion?

991
01:09:55,550 --> 01:09:56,450
Hearing none on the favor.

992
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:56,990
Aye.

993
01:09:58,730 --> 01:10:06,350
Next is the email from Mr. Kitsilis regarding 1624 Linesdale Avenue.

994
01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:07,970
Thank you, will you?

995
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:09,870
We're discussing.

996
01:10:11,770 --> 01:10:12,530
Both of you can discuss.

997
01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:14,610
We'll discuss with Councilor Fescio.

998
01:10:15,050 --> 01:10:16,470
Second by Councilor Aeson.

999
01:10:21,010 --> 01:10:21,150
Aye.

1000
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:23,670
There's an answer to that.

1001
01:10:23,770 --> 01:10:24,650
Go ahead and do a little bit.

1002
01:10:24,650 --> 01:10:25,270
Yes, I got this.

1003
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:29,830
So this is actually a, we are at the goal line

1004
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:33,350
on finishing and validating the affordable housing

1005
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:35,230
project going on over to $1,600, $1,600.

1006
01:10:35,230 --> 01:10:36,050
So I have those deals.

1007
01:10:36,230 --> 01:10:39,650
Gladly building the last couple of minor hurdles,

1008
01:10:40,050 --> 01:10:42,450
one of which is, which Chris Ellis has,

1009
01:10:43,230 --> 01:10:45,930
he has a partner through the financing.

1010
01:10:46,230 --> 01:10:49,290
He actually, through the award letters,

1011
01:10:49,650 --> 01:10:51,010
he's going to be looking for the amendment to,

1012
01:10:51,370 --> 01:10:53,330
including our profit that he's partnering with,

1013
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:56,090
to continue with the 100% affordable housing project.

1014
01:10:56,490 --> 01:10:58,250
I believe that it's what he's here for.

1015
01:10:58,670 --> 01:11:01,050
I do know that next week in our special meeting,

1016
01:11:02,010 --> 01:11:04,750
he's looking for an action in by way of resolution,

1017
01:11:06,370 --> 01:11:08,470
just explaining that the town will sign

1018
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:10,510
up on any claims on the time.

1019
01:11:10,970 --> 01:11:13,130
So that will be a discussion next week.

1020
01:11:14,590 --> 01:11:15,510
Yeah, right.

1021
01:11:16,370 --> 01:11:19,190
Thought we were doing both, but took out one at a time.

1022
01:11:20,510 --> 01:11:22,270
Do you guys have any questions on it?

1023
01:11:25,850 --> 01:11:32,110
So I know when we spoke in executive session you know my concerns and we still stay into

1024
01:11:32,110 --> 01:11:38,630
kind of what we talked about in executive sessions on the layout of the place, the amount

1025
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:40,370
of rooms, the nothing of the things.

1026
01:11:40,770 --> 01:11:45,750
So this is a technical point for tax planning reasons.

1027
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:52,710
So, with Rhode Island housing, just getting the affordable housing funds, they require

1028
01:11:52,710 --> 01:11:59,030
a monitoring agent and management team that has dealt with affordable housing.

1029
01:11:59,210 --> 01:12:04,310
So they wouldn't let, they wouldn't let, you know, just anyone manage those properties

1030
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:06,910
on and on until they have a certain truck record.

1031
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:11,250
So to get the funding from the state so that they know that you're doing it, right?

1032
01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:20,470
by the way this is 80% right now it's not you know it's a good little income model um they just

1033
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:27,010
are requiring a non-profit kind of when I brought the non-profit in because of the non-profit

1034
01:12:27,010 --> 01:12:33,450
they were able to give us fines to take down the property um which is but they would only give it

1035
01:12:33,450 --> 01:12:37,910
if a non-profit was a partner could we just structure the transactional value for the housing

1036
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:43,250
You have to be familiar with where there will be a partner with joint venture.

1037
01:12:43,930 --> 01:12:50,810
And so we just are asking that the award letter be awarded to us and to actually just

1038
01:12:50,810 --> 01:12:52,370
the value would be fine, but it doesn't make a difference.

1039
01:12:52,890 --> 01:12:57,330
Value will take the money and contribute it into the joint venture and then the joint

1040
01:12:57,330 --> 01:13:01,670
venture will use those funds to do, you know, you see, you see, the decent amount of environmental

1041
01:13:03,630 --> 01:13:06,790
relief is expected as best as the other things that we talked about in America.

1042
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:08,310
So that stays exactly the same.

1043
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:10,910
And the second part of it, which would be discussion at three,

1044
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:13,250
except I would be away at a board meeting.

1045
01:13:13,810 --> 01:13:16,590
So I'll just say it now, I don't know if it counts or not.

1046
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:21,490
But when the town took the land from Belonzil

1047
01:13:21,490 --> 01:13:23,490
companies, they built the school in 1922.

1048
01:13:24,150 --> 01:13:27,190
Belonzil companies put in a restricted covenant, which

1049
01:13:27,190 --> 01:13:28,990
said a colony used for school school purposes

1050
01:13:28,990 --> 01:13:31,670
that everyone's aware of, and already aware of.

1051
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:33,550
Belonzil companies were a predecessor

1052
01:13:33,550 --> 01:13:40,850
and predecessors are an interest to Textron, but in 1953, I keep looking at it, I'm just

1053
01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:41,350
a real lawyer.

1054
01:13:43,690 --> 01:13:46,870
And I know exactly, you're telling me, yes, this is the law, I practice, you know.

1055
01:13:47,410 --> 01:13:58,730
So there's the state legislator kind of nullified the rights of the voters, and so the title

1056
01:13:58,730 --> 01:14:02,390
One company is willing to write titles for over that condition.

1057
01:14:02,930 --> 01:14:06,910
With that said, tech companies give us a letter saying that they know just in the property

1058
01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:13,370
that they acknowledge that they have no right to the river and that they will not seek

1059
01:14:13,370 --> 01:14:16,190
to enforce the use restriction even without the river barrier.

1060
01:14:16,350 --> 01:14:18,310
So it's a little nuanced issue there.

1061
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:24,110
So they gave us a letter to allow us to record that for the river, to satisfy the state.

1062
01:14:24,750 --> 01:14:29,670
And at the same time, the state's in-house legal counsels are in-house and has asked the

1063
01:14:29,670 --> 01:14:38,350
town council to affirm the resolution state that you, too, will not enforce the use restriction

1064
01:14:38,350 --> 01:14:43,050
that can only be used as a school, which we feel is blatant in the obvious because you've

1065
01:14:43,050 --> 01:14:48,650
approved its use in a foot of restrictive covenant to keep it affordable housing for 100 years.

1066
01:14:49,330 --> 01:14:55,770
But for some reason, so I want at the state where I am, how do you do that?

1067
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:59,590
So...

1068
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:25,880
Excuse me. So that's why we'll come back to that special meeting. So if I could just ask you two quick things. All the affordable housing will not be selecting who lives there and anything like that. No, they just have as a margin agent. They just have to confer. So the state requires that the person can take 300 grand and come in and buy and run to the forum. So they're the only job is to be sure.

1069
01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:30,740
In terms of selection, they will screen

1070
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,040
who's eligible, and then we will select who is.

1071
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,980
Do we know what price range that is of hand?

1072
01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:37,740
The one on it?

1073
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,160
No, the affordable.

1074
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:44,160
Maybe, I think the combined income is from 60,000 to 80,000 bucks a year,

1075
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,120
but not at 80%.

1076
01:15:46,580 --> 01:15:48,560
So it depends if it's like one or two people,

1077
01:15:49,060 --> 01:15:50,260
and that the change is over time.

1078
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,220
And if a public, do you recall, I just, what the,

1079
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,940
the apartment's going to be, how many are single,

1080
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:08,960
3 or 2 bedrooms, I think like 19 or 1 bedrooms and maybe even 2 or 3 bedrooms.

1081
01:16:10,740 --> 01:16:17,520
And this is all, I mean, we're like, it's been all way approved, invented out, so.

1082
01:16:17,980 --> 01:16:22,180
I just want to show the public in here, because I have a lot of people that always ask me about it.

1083
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:28,540
Some people think here are photobiles, and they, yeah, we, yeah, we misconstrued it.

1084
01:16:28,540 --> 01:16:30,460
I mean the affordable housing, I think it's a lot different.

1085
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:36,600
The affordable housing isn't, you know, urban, more tight city, you know, I'm saying.

1086
01:16:36,940 --> 01:16:37,020
Yeah.

1087
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,260
So, in the studio, you said there would be studios, you know, how many that is?

1088
01:16:42,260 --> 01:16:46,200
When I say 18 and three, I said three nights.

1089
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:46,840
Three nights.

1090
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:47,800
You said three nights.

1091
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:48,940
Yeah.

1092
01:16:49,420 --> 01:16:51,120
So, whatever the mind, 26 months, that.

1093
01:16:51,780 --> 01:16:52,200
One.

1094
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:52,920
Thank you.

1095
01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:53,520
I appreciate you.

1096
01:16:54,580 --> 01:16:55,400
That's a great change.

1097
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:56,080
It's cool.

1098
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,700
It's close to that. I mean, that's written out exactly just off the top.

1099
01:17:02,140 --> 01:17:09,320
This has been a busy day with emails trying to, again, it was in our story with what happened housing and kind of through this last meeting

1100
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:18,120
or lettuce. Well, get out and follow us. Yeah. Yeah, it's a massive challenge itself. But again, I'd like you to where actually men don't sleep to the referee for a chance of.

1101
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:24,640
I just noticed that looking at the letter, so it was actually administrative letter for the finance record that actually made it as an award.

1102
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,520
I'm sorry, I don't believe it actually costs for a council.

1103
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,720
The council already approved the funds to go forward with this project.

1104
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:39,100
I think it just mattered to me having a hard-to-finite extractor, re-write the letter and it hasn't

1105
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:40,000
reflected a valley.

1106
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:41,500
Cool.

1107
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:43,460
Mr. Speaker.

1108
01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:45,360
Councillor Rousseau.

1109
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:51,160
I just think I'd be a little more comfortable if it has your organization and valley affordable.

1110
01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:56,800
All in because I wouldn't want, not that this would happen, but Valley gets that money

1111
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:57,980
and then appropriates it.

1112
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,160
So it's another project.

1113
01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:59,720
Yeah.

1114
01:17:59,940 --> 01:18:05,460
They can't because we have a JD agreement and that's part of their contribution to the JD

1115
01:18:05,460 --> 01:18:09,600
that they've signed so that I would have a cause of actually, that's a matter of fact.

1116
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:13,000
I don't feel that they're so, but they would do that.

1117
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:14,780
But it does.

1118
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:15,380
I understand.

1119
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:15,840
Yeah.

1120
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,140
But if it's not a big deal, technically, we could reward it directly to the JD.

1121
01:18:20,140 --> 01:18:32,460
but I think we're, I think it's, I like it like this, just because it, it actually keeps the money from being taxed to us, because we're not nonprofit, they are.

1122
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:40,700
So if the money goes to them, it gets contributed by them, it stays non-taxable so we can use all of the funds without taking a tax charge on that.

1123
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,440
That's the reason.

1124
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:54,420
so you need to walk me through this. Two things have to happen. One is for the council to pass a resolution

1125
01:18:55,240 --> 01:19:03,960
stating that we waive any right that it may have restrictions on the original deed, not only be used as a school. That's one item.

1126
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:12,160
second one which I just need to better explain to how we do it. We signed the

1127
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:23,710
purchase and sailed with you for the property. And we're now going to amend a

1128
01:19:23,710 --> 01:19:29,990
resolution we did for town affordable housing and no longer include you. We're

1129
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:33,670
going to avoid you out of that and we're going to change that to Valley of

1130
01:19:33,670 --> 01:19:34,250
affordable housing?

1131
01:19:34,610 --> 01:19:35,890
Is that my correct one?

1132
01:19:36,170 --> 01:19:36,490
Two days.

1133
01:19:37,530 --> 01:19:38,070
It's too technical.

1134
01:19:38,810 --> 01:19:41,990
I'm still thinking about confirming on both sides.

1135
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:43,770
So there's two parts to that.

1136
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:46,110
So I'm just a purchasing sale agreement.

1137
01:19:47,130 --> 01:19:47,490
I will.

1138
01:19:47,730 --> 01:19:49,310
I have the right as my assignment.

1139
01:19:49,570 --> 01:19:55,350
And I'm going to assign the agreement to the JVD.

1140
01:19:55,410 --> 01:19:56,990
I just assume we do that right at closing.

1141
01:19:57,250 --> 01:20:01,430
So technically, the joint venture entity will be buying the school.

1142
01:20:01,890 --> 01:20:02,010
Right?

1143
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:07,690
buying the school with money that we get in from the state, right? So the state

1144
01:20:07,690 --> 01:20:11,830
to give us money to take down the property that's called the site opposition program and

1145
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:16,290
they would only let us do that if we had a nonprofit partner, so that's really

1146
01:20:16,290 --> 01:20:24,170
long sale. So that's that piece. In this request tonight that that we're here

1147
01:20:24,170 --> 01:20:29,790
in front of you is we're asking that long sale affordable housing ink be added to

1148
01:20:29,790 --> 01:20:35,750
the award letter, so that way, when those funds are given a matter of time to do the project,

1149
01:20:36,150 --> 01:20:41,990
they're given a long sale for tax reasons, and then a long sale can contribute to the

1150
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:43,690
equity that's buying the property.

1151
01:20:44,670 --> 01:20:45,990
You keep saying long sale.

1152
01:20:46,170 --> 01:20:46,690
You mean value.

1153
01:20:46,830 --> 01:20:47,270
That's right.

1154
01:20:48,890 --> 01:20:49,350
Thank you.

1155
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:50,170
It's a valid form.

1156
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:50,450
Yes.

1157
01:20:53,380 --> 01:20:55,060
So, please bear with me again.

1158
01:20:55,060 --> 01:21:05,060
And so this letter that says there's a hundred and twenty thousand going to Linesdale Memorial

1159
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:10,960
holding, that's going to change and say that there is a hundred and twenty thousand going

1160
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,600
to Valley for the House.

1161
01:21:14,740 --> 01:21:15,660
Valley for the House.

1162
01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:21,300
So that resolution needs to be amended because I agree with Councilor Russo if we just sent

1163
01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:25,140
a letter, how does the finance director have the authority just to change her name?

1164
01:21:28,220 --> 01:21:32,180
I agree with Mr. President. I believe this was approved by the Council going back when

1165
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:36,320
you agreed to, so since we are changing the entity, I think it makes sense to have the

1166
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,800
Council vote on that, and the resolution we can do that, the special meeting on Tuesday

1167
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:41,120
do.

1168
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:41,860
Thank you.

1169
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,480
Two resolutions on Tuesday.

1170
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:53,420
So, and then I would kind of just to give comfort to Cosmine Wischer's point, it's okay in the letter to say that this money is going to value affordable housing.

1171
01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:59,700
At the end of the year we were trying to contribute the money to this project, to do this project.

1172
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:01,960
That's exactly what we're doing.

1173
01:22:02,260 --> 01:22:09,120
I would just suggest that when the resolutions are written, if we could send them to the draft.

1174
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:16,760
a draft to you, to just run by either your counsel or your counsel, just so that sense

1175
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:17,580
they're happy.

1176
01:22:18,060 --> 01:22:23,480
And just in terms of, so next week, I won't be here at Anshondas, I'm going to go to

1177
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:29,240
a way of business, but like at Sunday Park or John Scotch, I'll be your counsel in case

1178
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,720
a question puts up before you go ahead and have the resolutions vetted before the meeting.

1179
01:22:35,420 --> 01:22:36,700
I think it'll be cleaner and mixed.

1180
01:22:36,700 --> 01:22:39,140
So when he leaves, I'm leaving Monday, no.

1181
01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:43,180
Monday, so you should have this no later than Friday,

1182
01:22:43,780 --> 01:22:45,100
because it has to get posted.

1183
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,340
I'm going on, I can look at it.

1184
01:22:46,540 --> 01:22:47,040
That's not an issue.

1185
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,660
Because it's supposed to be Tuesday.

1186
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:49,960
We'll get that out as soon as possible.

1187
01:22:50,140 --> 01:22:53,100
We'll try to get them as soon as possible.

1188
01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:54,320
Just one more suggestion.

1189
01:22:55,300 --> 01:22:57,320
Don't ever change the penny out of luck there.

1190
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:58,500
Oh, it is.

1191
01:22:58,620 --> 01:22:59,700
It's like, oh my god.

1192
01:23:00,620 --> 01:23:02,760
And I did my envelope to get over the other night.

1193
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:04,120
It's just because you've forgotten it.

1194
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,980
No, my envelope got open the other night

1195
01:23:05,980 --> 01:23:09,540
When I went here, we had the almost chicken tennis.

1196
01:23:09,860 --> 01:23:10,080
Oh, good.

1197
01:23:10,380 --> 01:23:10,860
All right, good.

1198
01:23:11,020 --> 01:23:12,900
It's just you, you do it on the crossion.

1199
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:13,380
Not me.

1200
01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:15,000
What in my mouth so long?

1201
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:16,480
I don't want you.

1202
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,580
Thank you, baby.

1203
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,020
Just one I am on the menu for.

1204
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,720
Be an butter and jelly for me.

1205
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:22,900
All right.

1206
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:23,740
Thank you.

1207
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:24,280
All right, thanks, guys.

1208
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:24,880
Thank you.

1209
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:25,240
Thank you.

1210
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:26,700
Thank you.

1211
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,200
I will extend a motion to accept the email communication

1212
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,540
from Mr. Kitsos.

1213
01:23:54,180 --> 01:23:55,080
So I

1214
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:13,500
want to just address the ordinance that is going to be proposed, and I want to

1215
01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:16,980
and refer to committee later during this meeting.

1216
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,600
I want to quickly acknowledge that I understand

1217
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,980
it's the first draft, and that it does have to go through

1218
01:24:21,980 --> 01:24:25,460
that process, and there's a lot of work that still needs

1219
01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:27,140
to go through with that.

1220
01:24:27,620 --> 01:24:30,740
But I did just want to share a couple of thoughts

1221
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:32,080
that I had about the ordinance.

1222
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,520
Specifically, I didn't have a lot of time, but I took,

1223
01:24:37,980 --> 01:24:42,660
I tried to go through every municipal code of ordinances

1224
01:24:42,660 --> 01:24:47,940
and look to see what other residential parking permit systems look like.

1225
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:53,200
And I was surprised to find only about eight had them coded into their ordinances.

1226
01:24:54,220 --> 01:25:00,020
And out of those eight that I saw, one specific point in the Lincoln ordinance

1227
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,660
that I think should be reviewed is the limit that no more than two vehicles

1228
01:25:05,660 --> 01:25:08,660
per residential dwelling unit are eligible to receive a permit

1229
01:25:08,660 --> 01:25:16,820
Unlike unless special circumstances are presented, after looking at all of those different ordinances,

1230
01:25:17,260 --> 01:25:23,600
I didn't see anything from any other city or town that had a limit on the amount of residential

1231
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,160
parking permits for a dwelling unit.

1232
01:25:27,740 --> 01:25:30,160
And I think that can raise some concerns.

1233
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:36,760
For example, if you have a family of two parents and a manager, and they only need to drive,

1234
01:25:37,580 --> 01:25:48,040
They might be limited and their ability to get from their home and to their work and school and any other important places they need to go.

1235
01:25:49,040 --> 01:26:03,140
And then the other point that I thought just a deserved review was the guest parking specifically saying that it may be permitted at the request of a folder upon notice to the police department.

1236
01:26:03,140 --> 01:26:13,480
And while I do recognize needing to balance how we allow guests, especially if we do create residential parking permit zones,

1237
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:21,080
that specifically require any requests to the police department, might not exactly be the best way we do that.

1238
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:36,060
You know, for example, if you're just having a family member over for dinner or if you have a partner over and you just forget to make that call or you're having them over in the police department says, no, you can't have your partner over.

1239
01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:45,820
I know that those are not necessarily likely scenarios, but they are possible scenarios under the current draft of the ordinance.

1240
01:26:45,820 --> 01:26:49,760
and so I just want to make sure that it gets a lot of review to consider those

1241
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,200
edge cases where people might negatively be impacted even though they are

1242
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,480
Rhode Island, or Blinken residents. Thank you.

1243
01:26:58,480 --> 01:26:59,180
Thank you.

1244
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:09,120
If he reads, hello, please keep in mind that many people visit people in their homes

1245
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,960
for healthcare reasons. Is there a way for many hormones to not make it harder for

1246
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:18,800
doctors, nurses, physical and occupational therapists, patient care

1247
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:25,120
assistance, home health aids, lab full-bottomists, x-ray techs, hospice workers, chaplains, et cetera,

1248
01:27:25,260 --> 01:27:30,440
et cetera need to be able to park to care for people. These are important services to keep

1249
01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:35,220
people in their homes in a single day and one patient may have four to six visitors. Also,

1250
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:39,920
often family members will rotate spending nights with elderly or disabled people, please consider

1251
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:45,640
making life easier for these folks. Also, consider dropping a requirement about having all

1252
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:50,820
parking tickets paid off. This seems an unfair punishment for people going to that neighborhood

1253
01:27:50,820 --> 01:27:55,700
that does not bear down on people living in non-effective areas. Thank you for your consideration.

1254
01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:56,400
All right.

1255
01:28:00,580 --> 01:28:06,620
Okay. That will close public comment. I'm sorry. I just had a public comment by all means.

1256
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:15,500
I just wanted to sort of bring to the council's attention myself and the council president have been

1257
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:20,500
working on the comprehensive plan review committee as well as the administrative.

1258
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,260
And we're really doing, but the committee is doing a really good job.

1259
01:28:26,420 --> 01:28:34,600
And we've had a lot of positive public input, much, I think, to the surprise of the consultant.

1260
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:39,000
We had a public forum which was well attended.

1261
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:50,740
and we sent out a survey that to the astonishment of our advisor garnered 327 responses.

1262
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,240
So I don't know if we're going to make this public at some point as to what the survey said,

1263
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,220
but I kind of like a little science major.

1264
01:29:00,460 --> 01:29:07,880
So I kind of like looking at surveys because very infrequently at the town level,

1265
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:14,620
do we get to solicit responses from our constituents?

1266
01:29:16,140 --> 01:29:22,740
Just I know we do that on the state level, we do it on a national level, but I'm pretty intrigued that we've gotten some input here.

1267
01:29:26,380 --> 01:29:34,560
And just my preliminary looking at the data as well as some of the comments that were shared

1268
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:42,540
were and my brothers and sister on the council know one of the major

1269
01:29:42,540 --> 01:29:49,180
concerns here in town is always speeding that wasn't addressed in this it's

1270
01:29:49,180 --> 01:29:55,160
also people praise our school system which is addressed in this survey but

1271
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:59,980
development in the town. It seems to be at the forefront of...

1272
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,440
of people's minds. And we, as a council, we hear that when we listen to the people in

1273
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:13,760
Quinnville concerned about the effects of common farm. We hear that from people on Cobb

1274
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:18,360
Hill Road that talk about the effects of that new development. And most recently, with

1275
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:24,800
a lot of this water runoff, I'm hearing from my constituents, we never had a problem

1276
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:33,700
in this street or in this area until that lot was built on, or those houses were built.

1277
01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:40,660
So we hear it, I think, as a council, often enough to know that our constituency

1278
01:30:42,340 --> 01:30:45,660
consider overdeveloping Lincoln a problem.

1279
01:30:46,440 --> 01:30:52,100
And ironic, not ironically, but I guess, purposefully,

1280
01:30:52,100 --> 01:31:02,000
the survey sort of reflects that. When asked, do you feel Lincoln needs more or less of the

1281
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:13,200
these types of developments? 76% said the same amount or less single family. 81% said the same amount

1282
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:26,500
or less new subdivisions and 81% had said the same or less on multi-family dwellings and then when asked about

1283
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:37,240
you know one of the larger or something that we should focus on 88.9% said stricter regulation of development.

1284
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:43,960
So, this survey, I mean, I know I'm just taking a snapshot of some particular data that

1285
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:48,780
I was honed in on, and only because some of the comments, people are allowed to not

1286
01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:56,040
only select these answers, but they also are able to put in comments as to their concerns.

1287
01:31:57,260 --> 01:32:02,320
And there were a lot of great points that were brought up in the survey, but a constant

1288
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:09,220
was over development, effective development on schools, over clouding of classrooms due

1289
01:32:09,220 --> 01:32:18,000
to development. So I see it here in data. We hear it as a council. And what I'm concerned

1290
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:27,740
about is that I don't think that our legislative delegation hears the concerns of our constituency.

1291
01:32:27,740 --> 01:32:36,820
and I don't know if it's because of a lack of their focus or perhaps it's a

1292
01:32:36,820 --> 01:32:44,560
lack of our efforts as a council to bring forth the concerns of pieces of

1293
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,480
legislation and say you know we're concerned about this piece of

1294
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:54,620
legislation and I'm sort of I'm focusing on land development and the recent

1295
01:32:54,620 --> 01:33:00,820
changes to the zoning laws, but it could be anything.

1296
01:33:01,060 --> 01:33:04,060
It could be our ability to bargain with our unions.

1297
01:33:04,780 --> 01:33:07,720
We've reviewed some contracts last night.

1298
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,920
So I don't know if we're properly communicating the town's

1299
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,340
concerns to our legislative delegation.

1300
01:33:16,980 --> 01:33:21,640
I think myself as a council person, I sort of rely on our

1301
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,340
administrator to be our microphone.

1302
01:33:23,340 --> 01:33:32,140
And so he or she knows our concerns.

1303
01:33:32,140 --> 01:33:34,120
And you convey that to our delegation.

1304
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,820
You convey that to the League of Cities and Towns,

1305
01:33:37,820 --> 01:33:40,940
the League of Cities and Towns that was together joint statements.

1306
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,080
And this is really a long roundabout way of saying,

1307
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,800
I think that between now and the end of a legislative session,

1308
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:58,440
I think we should have a placeholder on the agenda where we're able to hear from the

1309
01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:04,480
administrator, we're able to hear from the solicitors office as to any legislation that

1310
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:12,060
seems to be gaining momentum that is going to negatively impact the citizens of Lincoln.

1311
01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:18,740
So they're were able to weigh in on that and get word out and unfortunately I think that

1312
01:34:18,740 --> 01:34:24,280
that we're going to need to get word out in a more constructive way in the form of

1313
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:24,880
a resolution.

1314
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:31,020
I mean, we see as a council, especially as the legislative session really gains momentum.

1315
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:36,640
A lot of other cities and towns are constantly passing resolutions urging their legislative

1316
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:42,520
delegation to act or not act on a particular piece of legislation.

1317
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:49,180
And I can honestly say the last time, this council, one of the last times, this council

1318
01:34:49,180 --> 01:34:59,120
actually took the initiative to resolute to our legislative delegation on some legislation

1319
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:03,580
that was going through the the state house was the last time they were all together in this

1320
01:35:03,580 --> 01:35:03,920
chamber.

1321
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,380
They don't come to our meetings.

1322
01:35:06,380 --> 01:35:15,920
things. So I just think that we as a council owe it to our constituency to make our feelings

1323
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:23,740
to channel our constituency's voices and concerns in the form of maybe resolutions or some

1324
01:35:23,740 --> 01:35:30,980
takes some kind of more proactive role. And I just I didn't want to pick on the zoning regulations,

1325
01:35:30,980 --> 01:35:36,780
But I just so happen to review the survey, and we have this meeting upcoming next week.

1326
01:35:37,420 --> 01:35:42,920
And I'm thinking, gee, here's a clear indication that the citizens of Lincoln are not, you

1327
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,820
know, are in favor of local control or in favor of strict regulations.

1328
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:54,580
And here we have our legislative delegation actually voting for, essentially, the withdrawal

1329
01:35:54,580 --> 01:35:55,460
of the zoning board.

1330
01:35:55,900 --> 01:35:59,420
I mean, the zoning board is really not going to have a lot on their genism moving forward.

1331
01:35:59,420 --> 01:36:05,960
so I just think some of our delegation has made some decisions in the past or perhaps

1332
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,760
it's they feel it's in the state's best interest but it may not be in the best interest

1333
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:15,660
of the citizens of Lincoln so we should keep a placeholder on the agenda just to ferret

1334
01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:23,240
these things out and get those comments to our delegation so I'm sorry rambling but

1335
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:31,140
No. Well said. There you go. So Madam Clerk, if we could have a placeholder on the agenda

1336
01:36:31,140 --> 01:36:37,140
for now until June, legislative agenda update. And see what happens.

1337
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:38,640
We got it. Great.

1338
01:36:39,220 --> 01:36:39,520
Next.

1339
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,940
Okay. Next, the appointments.

1340
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,700
First is the appointment of the tree warden for 2024.

1341
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:51,080
This is a DEM requirement.

1342
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:52,120
President,

1343
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:59,200
I'll make... I'm assuming we're reappointing DPW Director Mike Gaggan.

1344
01:37:00,100 --> 01:37:05,780
Motion by Councilman Pyshek. Second. Second by Councilman Russo, any discussion?

1345
01:37:06,980 --> 01:37:10,460
Here in none all in favor. Aye. I oppose.

1346
01:37:15,670 --> 01:37:18,590
Next is Library Board of Trustees District 2.

1347
01:37:18,910 --> 01:37:25,070
Mr. President, I think I'm motion to reappoint Rita Caraccia. Motion by Councilman Olin,

1348
01:37:25,070 --> 01:37:28,010
Rear Point, Rita Carache, to library board of trustees.

1349
01:37:28,850 --> 01:37:31,150
Second. Second by Councilman Peshad, any discussion?

1350
01:37:31,850 --> 01:37:32,790
Hearing none all in favor?

1351
01:37:33,170 --> 01:37:33,330
Aye.

1352
01:37:34,570 --> 01:37:36,530
Next is budget board district four.

1353
01:37:49,690 --> 01:37:51,670
Point, Mark

1354
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,640
Rooley out.

1355
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:57,800
Rooley out?

1356
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:58,660
Rooley out.

1357
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:01,080
Rooley out.

1358
01:38:11,410 --> 01:38:13,830
Second by Councilman Peshad, any discussion?

1359
01:38:13,870 --> 01:38:14,110
discussion,

1360
01:38:16,940 --> 01:38:18,400
hearing none all in favor.

1361
01:38:18,820 --> 01:38:18,940
Aye.

1362
01:38:20,050 --> 01:38:22,700
Next, budget board district five, motion to defer.

1363
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,700
Motion to defer from councilman Peshat.

1364
01:38:27,340 --> 01:38:27,900
Do you have a second?

1365
01:38:28,180 --> 01:38:30,060
Second by councilman Oli, any discussion?

1366
01:38:31,060 --> 01:38:32,240
Hearing none all in favor?

1367
01:38:32,620 --> 01:38:32,800
Aye.

1368
01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:35,780
Lincoln Housing Authority District three,

1369
01:38:36,060 --> 01:38:38,480
I'll entertain a motion to reappoint Mr. Bill Peppas.

1370
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:40,920
So moved, motion by councilman Peshat.

1371
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:46,160
Seconded, seconded by councilman Rousseau,

1372
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:49,240
Councilor None, Councilor Azar, any discussion?

1373
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,060
Hearing none all in favor?

1374
01:38:51,440 --> 01:38:51,700
Aye.

1375
01:38:52,340 --> 01:38:54,020
Next, Planning Board District 2.

1376
01:38:54,380 --> 01:38:56,540
Motion to Reappoint Jeffrey Olin.

1377
01:38:57,480 --> 01:38:59,960
Motion to Reappoint Jeffrey Olin by Councilman Olin.

1378
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:00,920
Second.

1379
01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:04,600
Seconded by all the other Councillors, any discussion?

1380
01:39:05,820 --> 01:39:07,420
Hearing none all in favor?

1381
01:39:07,700 --> 01:39:07,940
Aye.

1382
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,400
Planning Board District 4.

1383
01:39:11,340 --> 01:39:13,700
I'd like to reappoint Ned Lyman.

1384
01:39:14,700 --> 01:39:19,700
Motion to a point, Ned London, from Councilor Azar. Second. Second by Councilman Russo, any discussion?

1385
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,520
Hearing none all in favor. Aye.

1386
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,580
Zoning board of review. District two.

1387
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,080
Mr. President, would you like to make a motion on point, Richard Dennerstein?

1388
01:39:33,470 --> 01:39:33,870
Second.

1389
01:39:34,290 --> 01:39:37,290
Motion to a point, Mr. Richard Dennerstein, from Councilman.

1390
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:39,410
Mr. President, not a reappointment.

1391
01:39:39,710 --> 01:39:40,110
Oh, sorry.

1392
01:39:42,370 --> 01:39:46,110
Motion to a point, Richard Dennerstein, from Councilman Oli. Second by Councilman Pershet.

1393
01:39:46,110 --> 01:39:54,300
Council of A's already discussion on favor I know we have one member here is

1394
01:39:54,300 --> 01:40:00,400
there anyone else to be sworn in okay so if I got you to step on the swan

1395
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,440
for the charter, which you have been appointed,

1396
01:40:22,860 --> 01:40:25,000
or until another is engaged to take your place,

1397
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,220
or until you can really discharge their firm

1398
01:40:27,220 --> 01:40:27,980
so help you that.

1399
01:40:28,180 --> 01:40:28,480
I do.

1400
01:40:28,780 --> 01:40:29,260
I'm moving.

1401
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:30,200
Congratulations.

1402
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:32,020
Thank you.

1403
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,880
Next is the claims subcommittee report, Jim Noes.

1404
01:40:45,020 --> 01:40:46,740
That's Mr. President earlier this evening.

1405
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,260
The claims committee met, and three separate claims.

1406
01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:53,000
The first claim was a Juarez claim

1407
01:40:53,700 --> 01:40:57,220
that claim was deferred under three, three to nothing vote.

1408
01:40:57,220 --> 01:40:58,160
The

1409
01:41:00,210 --> 01:41:03,030
second claim would be Hyrum, the Hyrum Bobber claim.

1410
01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:06,730
That claim was also deferred on a three-day zero vote.

1411
01:41:08,210 --> 01:41:10,470
And the last claim was a Carroll claim.

1412
01:41:11,790 --> 01:41:14,810
There was a three-year vote to prove the claim

1413
01:41:14,810 --> 01:41:19,630
in a model of $660.48 by Moeville Council to do this such.

1414
01:41:20,110 --> 01:41:24,370
Most of my concerns only to pay the claim in the amount of $660.48.

1415
01:41:24,830 --> 01:41:25,090
Second.

1416
01:41:25,390 --> 01:41:27,210
Second by Council, he's already discussion.

1417
01:41:28,670 --> 01:41:29,150
here.

1418
01:41:29,230 --> 01:41:29,350
Here's another.

1419
01:41:30,510 --> 01:41:31,470
I suppose.

1420
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:32,730
I have.

1421
01:41:33,870 --> 01:41:36,550
Next to the capital improvement committee report.

1422
01:41:36,810 --> 01:41:38,670
We actually have two projects going on.

1423
01:41:39,370 --> 01:41:43,410
I'll start with Councilman Peshette with the school.

1424
01:41:46,150 --> 01:41:46,870
Thank you.

1425
01:41:47,050 --> 01:41:47,430
It was Fred.

1426
01:41:47,530 --> 01:41:50,290
We had a meeting in February 2nd.

1427
01:41:50,290 --> 01:41:50,590
I'm sorry.

1428
01:41:50,730 --> 01:41:51,410
That's the next meeting.

1429
01:41:51,610 --> 01:41:54,550
We had a meeting on January 5th.

1430
01:41:55,050 --> 01:41:56,510
Lots of things going on.

1431
01:41:56,510 --> 01:42:01,550
The projects coming up on the quicker side are the HVAC and all the

1432
01:42:01,550 --> 01:42:06,750
cafeterias in the four elementary schools and all bird construction, signed a

1433
01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:11,670
contract to take care of that job. The New Canopy at Lincoln High School, they're

1434
01:42:11,670 --> 01:42:16,170
going to look at getting the steel delivered to site so that as soon as schools

1435
01:42:16,170 --> 01:42:20,150
out they can start working on that immediately so the materials will be on site.

1436
01:42:21,010 --> 01:42:26,370
Studio Jade gave us an update on all the gyms and a lot of them being

1437
01:42:26,370 --> 01:42:32,030
tweaked, we're kind of seeing them moved a little bit position-wise to gain either classroom

1438
01:42:32,030 --> 01:42:38,490
space or exterior entries and there's also discussion about how many we're going to have

1439
01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:42,550
this full-size courts versus elementary size courts so a lot of that stuff is still being

1440
01:42:43,750 --> 01:42:48,030
discussed and a lot more to come but those are the things we're dealing with right now.

1441
01:42:49,770 --> 01:42:58,950
Councilman Ome you sit on the rescue stations. Yes, Mr. President, we met last Tuesday for our first meeting with kind of a more introductory meeting.

1442
01:42:59,830 --> 01:43:08,410
I have to say the administrative work put together quite a committee. We're moving forward on the meeting to separate.

1443
01:43:09,410 --> 01:43:16,250
We kind of like I said meet and greet everybody together. We throw a lot of ideas around and we're going forward from there.

1444
01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:40,570
We did, we did put out an RFP, let's test Monday and RFP HQ for obtaining OPM services so that actually it will be a mentor meeting here on Monday at 10 o'clock with the chair of the committee as well as the challenge near to oversee that process and questions but that that process is moving.

1445
01:43:41,070 --> 01:43:43,730
And at the time when I used the alumni as well,

1446
01:43:44,250 --> 01:43:45,830
we're open to, you know,

1447
01:43:45,930 --> 01:43:48,050
the team opening services in this project.

1448
01:43:48,610 --> 01:43:49,190
Thank you, Miss.

1449
01:43:49,250 --> 01:43:49,670
We're in Australia.

1450
01:43:49,810 --> 01:43:51,270
I promise I didn't sleep through that part.

1451
01:43:51,870 --> 01:43:52,970
I just forgot to say it.

1452
01:43:53,010 --> 01:43:53,110
Hi.

1453
01:43:55,810 --> 01:43:59,430
And the only comment I have is the physical education committee

1454
01:43:59,430 --> 01:44:02,510
will have its last meeting on January 31st

1455
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:06,350
at the Media Center at the High School.

1456
01:44:07,730 --> 01:44:09,230
That brings us to new business.

1457
01:44:09,230 --> 01:44:11,610
We have resolutions for introduction and for committee.

1458
01:44:12,450 --> 01:44:18,850
First one is resolution 2023-4 amendment to the resolution's update cost from 850,000

1459
01:44:19,990 --> 01:44:27,310
to 1,000, 8,367,000, 57 cents for the sewer line on the school street.

1460
01:44:27,630 --> 01:44:31,550
Move from meeting consideration. Motion from meeting consideration from Councilman Russo

1461
01:44:31,550 --> 01:44:33,710
So second by Councillor A's already discussion.

1462
01:44:34,530 --> 01:44:35,610
Hearing none all the favour.

1463
01:44:36,030 --> 01:44:36,170
Hi.

1464
01:44:36,670 --> 01:44:37,770
On the resolution.

1465
01:44:42,060 --> 01:44:42,280
Meeting.

1466
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:43,840
We have a motion to discuss.

1467
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:45,220
Motion to discuss.

1468
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:45,640
Motion to discuss.

1469
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,880
Motion to discuss from Councilor Rousseau.

1470
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,100
Seconded by Councilman Hony.

1471
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:54,140
We recently received 90% design drawings of

1472
01:44:59,300 --> 01:44:59,600
plants.

1473
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,940
And they gave us an updated cost based on the design. My original estimate was $150,000, which you guys previously approved to use ARCA funds for. Their current estimate is $1,8,367. It's based on their engineers estimate that they put together on it. Obviously, once it goes out to big, hopefully that number comes down to close to where I was. But at this point in time, they're looking for a commitment from the town to cover that.

1474
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:36,520
difference. So what's before you now is to amend the ARPA resolution to cover

1475
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:42,980
that difference from $850,000 to the $1,8,360, $750.

1476
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,660
Let's go for the work. It's the same.

1477
01:45:47,940 --> 01:45:53,140
I just have one question in the resolution. Can we scroll to the next page please?

1478
01:45:54,020 --> 01:45:56,660
So this is the original. Do you want the amended one or this?

1479
01:45:56,660 --> 01:45:58,220
the amended one. Please.

1480
01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:11,320
Right there in the whereas. It says right out will require 50%

1481
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:19,800
advance payment in the amount of 425,000. Is that? So we've already paid that. Right. So they're not

1482
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:26,160
currently asking us to meet that middle point. So they're not asking us to meet that difference.

1483
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:34,160
Can we then just, can we just then, I'll extend a motion to amend the resolution and strike

1484
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,420
the 50% some

1485
01:46:40,490 --> 01:46:40,690
more.

1486
01:46:41,710 --> 01:46:42,070
Second.

1487
01:46:42,610 --> 01:46:43,530
Motion by Councilman.

1488
01:46:43,530 --> 01:46:48,390
Only seconded by Council, A's already in discussion, hearing not all in favour.

1489
01:46:50,410 --> 01:46:54,130
Questions on the, but Mr. Mystery, or something?

1490
01:46:54,130 --> 01:47:00,790
And again, I think this is a great use of the archaeophons, we still have some available,

1491
01:47:01,170 --> 01:47:06,290
but I am sure improvements offset by the money that we do have, I think you said,

1492
01:47:06,370 --> 01:47:07,230
why is it less than that?

1493
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:12,270
And this is a board project, and I'm sure people will now be on the very happy ones this school's

1494
01:47:12,270 --> 01:47:15,250
dream, get through big, and we hope that it works.

1495
01:47:15,690 --> 01:47:20,680
On schedule, we constructed this part here.

1496
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:21,360
Yes.

1497
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:24,100
Before or after the Washington Bridge?

1498
01:47:32,620 --> 01:47:37,220
It's just a quick question, it's just this money is being used for the sewer.

1499
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:37,840
Correct.

1500
01:47:39,300 --> 01:47:40,140
All right.

1501
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:45,020
It's not just road painting and sidewalks, it's a sewer, yeah.

1502
01:47:45,460 --> 01:47:45,580
Yeah.

1503
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,120
I've been going through the plants and through the process and that we're meeting within tomorrow

1504
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:49,700
to go open.

1505
01:47:49,940 --> 01:47:52,180
But it is strictly for the sewer.

1506
01:47:52,180 --> 01:47:56,640
So we installed a sewer and the state picks up the tab for the sidewalks and then paving.

1507
01:47:56,940 --> 01:48:01,080
Correct. The how it works. Part of it, it doesn't include a temporary pavement over the sewer,

1508
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:05,360
because they go through their place due to only thirst and have to be driveable at the end of each bed.

1509
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:11,900
So that pavement cost is included in it, but then the complete reconstruction of the road is on state.

1510
01:48:13,340 --> 01:48:17,660
And the plants currently show new pavement, new granite, herm, and I believe it's used in

1511
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,940
And what do we have left in the opera fund?

1512
01:48:23,740 --> 01:48:24,900
Roughly, I mean.

1513
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:33,900
We did some, you know, some add-up, I think $2 million, but I could get it.

1514
01:48:34,860 --> 01:48:40,440
So this pretty much is just like $200,000 over the original estimate.

1515
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:48,140
That $2 million takes into consideration this money already being appropriated.

1516
01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:56,180
So once this is done, roughly $1 million in it, three quarters or something.

1517
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:01,180
Thanks, excuse me to make an accurate breakdown in your numbers.

1518
01:49:06,110 --> 01:49:12,250
Okay, I'll entertain a motion on the resolution as a motion to adopt.

1519
01:49:12,250 --> 01:49:16,870
motion to adopt from Councilman Bouchet. Second by Councillor Azar.

1520
01:49:19,170 --> 01:49:20,310
Any discussion?

1521
01:49:21,790 --> 01:49:25,410
Hearing none, all those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Aye, static.

1522
01:49:26,650 --> 01:49:27,470
You're welcome.

1523
01:49:31,330 --> 01:49:35,070
Next is a resolution to support filing of an application for funds for the

1524
01:49:35,070 --> 01:49:37,170
around public safety infrastructure grant.

1525
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,800
Motion to discuss. Motion to discuss.

1526
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:53,340
Councilman Peshett. Okay. Second by councilor Rousseau any discussion hearing none all in favor?

1527
01:49:54,700 --> 01:49:56,120
Opposed? Nice having.

1528
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,820
Motion to adopt. Motion to adopt the resolution of councilman Peshett.

1529
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,040
Second. Second by councilor A's already discussion.

1530
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:08,140
Administrator is he the ward.

1531
01:50:09,140 --> 01:50:16,440
Yeah I'm going to briefly speak this so there is a some grand money available for the rest of the building.

1532
01:50:16,440 --> 01:50:20,380
We did go to bond and we're approved by the Board of the Board of the Board of the

1533
01:50:20,380 --> 01:50:20,600
Millions.

1534
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:25,200
On the same time, this grant is billed of some of a million dollars.

1535
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:31,940
The match is, and we take it to the resolution, more than half, we're not sure what that

1536
01:50:31,940 --> 01:50:35,740
attack number is, but anyway, we give the state to help pay for the rest of the bill, and

1537
01:50:35,740 --> 01:50:39,540
he's a good thing which will, again, be offset from that bond.

1538
01:50:39,820 --> 01:50:43,920
So it's time for them to add on to this corporate project, which is trying to absorb some of

1539
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,700
the cost and with our state funding to get things through.

1540
01:50:48,580 --> 01:50:49,420
It's like getting a coupon.

1541
01:50:50,540 --> 01:50:50,760
Exactly.

1542
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:55,800
Any further discussion?

1543
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:57,980
Hearing none.

1544
01:50:58,120 --> 01:50:59,500
Motion to adopt those in favor.

1545
01:50:59,820 --> 01:51:00,000
Aye.

1546
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:00,960
Opposed?

1547
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:01,900
Aye.

1548
01:51:02,060 --> 01:51:02,240
Opposed?

1549
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:04,320
Opposed?

1550
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:04,700
Opposed?

1551
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:13,120
Aye.

1552
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,700
motion to refer to the ordinance committee, motion to refer to the committee from Councilman

1553
01:51:16,700 --> 01:51:17,000
Bishop.

1554
01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:17,680
Second.

1555
01:51:17,820 --> 01:51:18,360
Second by Council.

1556
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:19,520
Is there any discussion?

1557
01:51:19,860 --> 01:51:20,140
No.

1558
01:51:20,660 --> 01:51:21,120
Councilman.

1559
01:51:21,620 --> 01:51:27,220
If I could, if I could indulge the chairman of that committee if you could have that meeting

1560
01:51:27,220 --> 01:51:33,000
on Monday night, if it's an all possible the Monday night instead of the Tuesday, I'm sorry

1561
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,120
the Tuesday night instead of the Monday, just like the presence of that meeting.

1562
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:39,340
Absolutely.

1563
01:51:39,340 --> 01:51:47,380
I just, I guess my only note to that is if there are any significant changes that might

1564
01:51:47,380 --> 01:51:56,200
be made to the language there, that we may not be able to vote on Tuesday night, which

1565
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:56,620
is okay.

1566
01:51:56,860 --> 01:51:59,740
There's no urgency here, but that's the chance rule, right?

1567
01:52:00,540 --> 01:52:04,020
So I have no problem having the ordinance committee on Tuesday night.

1568
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,000
It's just, I work on Monday's and this one's going to be my district.

1569
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:12,820
I've been talking with the administrator a lot about this, I'm a big fan of it, so I'd like to ask them to put it.

1570
01:52:13,180 --> 01:52:18,220
I just have a quick question. Normally, we do claims in purchasing on Tuesday, because there's shorter meetings.

1571
01:52:18,860 --> 01:52:22,360
Can we do it at 6.15, so we can still do the half hour for the ordinance committee?

1572
01:52:23,140 --> 01:52:27,480
And then the claims, as it's way five, and I was in purchasing on Monday,

1573
01:52:28,340 --> 01:52:30,460
is I don't pay with everyone who has switched that around.

1574
01:52:31,180 --> 01:52:33,520
That way he can, I can continue to do that.

1575
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,340
That way he can attend your next meeting.

1576
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:37,600
Sorry, but he's okay,

1577
01:52:37,660 --> 01:52:39,300
but that's scheduled to be purchasing on one day.

1578
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,360
Moving forward, just for next month.

1579
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:43,960
It's up to you, because he can't.

1580
01:52:44,140 --> 01:52:45,100
It's up to you.

1581
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:46,140
Yeah, it's up to you.

1582
01:52:46,500 --> 01:52:47,180
So it's up to you.

1583
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:50,980
I guess just at this point, just for February,

1584
01:52:51,300 --> 01:52:53,220
and then we can discuss for our next, yeah.

1585
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,620
The two that you're on in ordinance and claims.

1586
01:52:56,140 --> 01:52:56,320
Right.

1587
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:59,340
Council members, there's some white roll.

1588
01:53:04,910 --> 01:53:05,930
Did we vote on that?

1589
01:53:06,510 --> 01:53:06,610
Yep.

1590
01:53:07,050 --> 01:53:07,310
Okay.

1591
01:53:07,450 --> 01:53:08,790
I'm motion send that to committee.

1592
01:53:08,990 --> 01:53:09,630
All those in favor?

1593
01:53:09,930 --> 01:53:10,090
Aye.

1594
01:53:10,630 --> 01:53:11,070
Opposed?

1595
01:53:11,450 --> 01:53:11,530
Aye.

1596
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:14,850
Next is discussion.

1597
01:53:15,050 --> 01:53:17,110
You know, action on town charter review.

1598
01:53:18,110 --> 01:53:21,070
There is a section of the charter.

1599
01:53:22,010 --> 01:53:23,630
And I could get which one it is.

1600
01:53:23,710 --> 01:53:27,410
I want to say it's 3518.

1601
01:53:27,950 --> 01:53:28,450
1718.

1602
01:53:29,890 --> 01:53:36,710
I forgot. There is a section of the child that says that it needs to be reviewed every

1603
01:53:36,710 --> 01:53:43,850
five years. We have not done it in quite a while. So one, bring it to the council's attention.

1604
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:50,170
If you want to take a look and see what needs to see if there's anything that needs to be

1605
01:53:50,170 --> 01:53:50,410
done,

1606
01:53:53,090 --> 01:53:59,310
I'll put a... If we don't feel that it needs a comprehensive review, what we can do

1607
01:53:59,310 --> 01:54:04,690
It was just past a resolution that says it's fine as it is and have that moving forward.

1608
01:54:05,390 --> 01:54:09,290
Just as a final clarification, Mr. President, it was Section 1718.

1609
01:54:09,590 --> 01:54:10,710
1718, thank you.

1610
01:54:14,110 --> 01:54:16,650
Any discussion on that?

1611
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:19,000
OK.

1612
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,600
Last thing is the February meeting.

1613
01:54:24,140 --> 01:54:32,700
If we can change that to the 27th, Section 25.

1614
01:54:32,700 --> 01:54:44,020
works to access the means of 26 and 27 due to the February holiday is that okay

1615
01:54:44,020 --> 01:54:45,620
with everybody okay

1616
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:51,180
so a February meeting work session be on the 26th and the

1617
01:54:51,180 --> 01:54:59,460
meeting will be on the 27th so that's when the that on this will be okay any

1618
01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:03,240
comments from the announcements from the council.

1619
01:55:05,690 --> 01:55:06,990
Now let's say in a motion to adjourn.

1620
01:55:06,990 --> 01:55:11,090
So, I'm going to start with the Councilor Moroni, second by Councilor Azami, discussion

1621
01:55:11,090 --> 01:55:11,990
for all the favour.

1622
01:55:12,330 --> 01:55:12,650
Aye.