1 00:00:02,740 --> 00:00:12,880 Thank you, I'm going to call to port the town council, work session meeting, September 14, at several 4 p.m., the properties rise to the pledge. 2 00:00:16,190 --> 00:00:19,550 Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 3 00:00:20,010 --> 00:00:27,490 Thanks to the Republic for which the stands, onation, on regard into this vote of liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:33,310 --> 00:00:47,790 The first item is the Municipal Affordable Housing Fund, our court received communication today that they are not available to come today. 5 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:56,250 So I'll let you take the motion to defer this to the October work session. 6 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:35,640 Councilmember Rousseau, yes, and the chair of O'Jes. 7 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,780 I'll now wait to take the motion to seal the minutes from executive session, pursue it to a graduate general law. 8 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,040 42-46-7-C. 9 00:02:02,260 --> 00:02:03,900 I'm a motion to councilperson. 10 00:02:04,180 --> 00:02:06,020 I am sorry, but Councilmember O'Neill, discussion. 11 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,520 I wrote a roll call, Councilmember Nose, Councilperson. 12 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Councilor Riesa, Councilmember Rousseau. 13 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:12,180 Yes, I'm Chair of O'Jes. 14 00:02:14,860 --> 00:02:17,700 And I'm entertained in motion for the matters in executive session. 15 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,900 I'll make a motion to ratify the contracts. 16 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,140 We'll show ratify the contract from Councilman. 17 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:29,360 Second. 18 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,020 Second by Council. 19 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,620 Is there any discussion? 20 00:02:32,860 --> 00:02:33,980 Once again on a rope form. 21 00:02:34,380 --> 00:02:35,380 Councilman, only Councilman for sure. 22 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,700 Council, is that? 23 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:36,900 Yes. 24 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:37,940 Councilman. 25 00:02:38,260 --> 00:02:38,500 Yes. 26 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Okay. 27 00:02:43,770 --> 00:02:44,290 Okay, 28 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:49,640 then you could make it. 29 00:02:55,910 --> 00:03:00,610 As we heard from the chair of the water commission, they did not post their meeting. 30 00:03:02,510 --> 00:03:05,550 Tonight's meeting with them, so we're going to have to reschedule by. 31 00:03:06,610 --> 00:03:14,610 As we look at rescheduleing it, our regularly scheduled council meeting for October is on the 13th. 32 00:03:16,370 --> 00:03:21,170 And that is the day after Columbus Day. 33 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:24,910 It is not the third Tuesday of the month of the 20th. 34 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:26,590 So it's the 20th. 35 00:03:29,970 --> 00:03:30,870 Very good. 36 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:31,690 All right. 37 00:03:32,690 --> 00:03:34,350 So shall 38 00:03:38,570 --> 00:03:45,810 we move the municipal affordable housing fund, public hearing, 39 00:03:46,950 --> 00:03:49,690 to the October work session on the 19th? 40 00:03:51,910 --> 00:04:02,770 Yes, okay, and what is your pleasure in regards to the joint meeting with the Lincoln Water Commission? 41 00:04:02,950 --> 00:04:12,570 As we see, we see 23 questions from us and we want to leave time for back and forth. 42 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:18,050 We want to do that on the same night, but we want to schedule that on a different day. 43 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:18,050 I 44 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:23,540 mean it was on tonight, the same night, so 45 00:04:26,610 --> 00:04:27,850 move to the late team. 46 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:32,950 That would take some time. 47 00:04:33,850 --> 00:04:36,450 Okay, I'll let, yeah, I'll let 10 notes. 48 00:04:43,890 --> 00:04:44,130 Okay, 49 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 that brings us to 50 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,720 review of the agenda for tomorrow night. 51 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:05,160 We have an application for a special event from Bally's Twin River for Boxing. 52 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:11,300 We have a class F, for the 250th Pike Gallard Lincoln Senior Center. 53 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:20,940 The Chase Fong concert series are October 24, it's St. Basil, Church, Scholarship of 54 00:05:20,940 --> 00:05:27,260 One night on October 3. We have an application for an MFA for Dolby's Corphing. 55 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:33,430 We have all the 56 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:35,930 usual items under the consent agenda. 57 00:05:40,860 --> 00:05:44,120 We have appointments, tenant board of affairs, district 58 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:54,180 two in District 5, Zoning Board of Review, Conservation Commission, Tenant Board of Affairs, District 59 00:05:54,180 --> 00:06:01,480 1, District 3, and District 4, and an appointment parks and recognition. 60 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:04,870 On its subcommittee, 61 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:06,870 we'll be giving this report tomorrow night. 62 00:06:11,620 --> 00:06:13,960 Preacher subcommittee will be meeting tomorrow night 63 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,180 giving us a report. 64 00:06:20,290 --> 00:06:22,030 We have anything for capital improvement. 65 00:06:24,990 --> 00:06:26,970 Yeah, a little bit. Okay. 66 00:06:30,810 --> 00:06:32,470 We have resolution for introduction, 67 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:37,910 with relative committee and an audience for introduction, 68 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:38,850 with relative committee. 69 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Any questions on tomorrow's agenda? 70 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,340 Okay, here we are. 71 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,480 That brings us to public color. 72 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:55,340 We would like to address the council. 73 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:59,440 You may do so at this time. We ask that you please keep it to five minutes. 74 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:11,490 Good evening. My name is Pat Ford. 75 00:07:11,910 --> 00:07:14,650 I'm a producer today's conversation. I'm here in my country. 76 00:07:15,210 --> 00:07:17,210 As you check his director of literature, I'm usually... 77 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:21,530 ...what ten Apple Street can probably grow down. 78 00:07:22,110 --> 00:07:23,710 We are a nonprofit organization. 79 00:07:23,910 --> 00:07:25,790 Nice to see you down. We paint those salaries. 80 00:07:26,370 --> 00:07:28,110 We've sent no government money whatsoever. 81 00:07:29,330 --> 00:07:29,970 Our priority... 82 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:59,620 I'll give you some of the water project. We'll do a little bit of water input, often by the ballot. To almost you can, to the location, to food countries, countries around Central and Northern Rhode, and now in the stretching into the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this past summer, we took over the New Soccer, along with other organizations, New Soccer, summer camp, summer meals in the park program, and executed anywhere from 50 to 90 miles a day for five weeks, over a freshman year, 100, 83 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:01,900 Well, about 1,500 years. 84 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:04,060 The point is, we're not your plight government, 85 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:05,700 we're here simply replace you. 86 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,660 And we're already doing a great job. 87 00:08:08,340 --> 00:08:09,460 So when it comes to the homeless, 88 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,000 this Iowa Water Hands Up experience. 89 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,300 We routinely, as part of our journeys, visit homeless economists 90 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:18,120 because the state of Iran, despite spending literally 91 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 a gazillion dollars on homeless, provides them 92 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,400 with no work, at any level or at any cost. 93 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,460 That end of itself is a stunt. 94 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:28,660 But what it does do is give you the opportunity to go hands on, 95 00:08:28,660 --> 00:08:33,600 often two to three times a week, the holistic campus around the level of, I am aware of the 96 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,600 challenges facing communities that find themselves in the holistic campus. 97 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,700 But consider this sort of a friendly first strike on the legislation that's being, I guess, 98 00:08:44,180 --> 00:08:50,040 initially introduced to the town council tomorrow, and ultimately said to the Arctic today, 99 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:56,360 we will be fighting this politely to them now, it's a long ahead in many directions. 100 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:03,440 Number one, when you break up homeless academies, people inevitably die, why did they die? 101 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,420 Number one, the insert body system or synthetic community goes away, people are often stranded alone. 102 00:09:10,180 --> 00:09:13,440 Watch the overdose rates by you, as a result of that. 103 00:09:14,420 --> 00:09:21,120 They are unable to contact, literally their social workers or any of that have, on often lose all contact with communications, 104 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,980 which involves medicine, which involves benefits, which involves all of the issues that come 105 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:35,180 with the living outside. So it's a terrible process and it leads to nothing of chaos. So while 106 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:41,640 the initial feeling for many people broke up that almost cannon, ultimately you will increase 107 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,440 the number of first responder calls, you will increase the death rate and you will actually 108 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:55,960 end up crossing the city more. So the question I've gotten is not a report, but I'm going to 109 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,120 But ultimately, I'm not aware of who actually offered this bill. 110 00:10:00,580 --> 00:10:02,320 That's why I'm going to address it to the entire council. 111 00:10:02,620 --> 00:10:04,000 Who decided to do this? 112 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:05,100 And why? 113 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:07,280 Is there an overwhelming issue with homelessness? 114 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:08,520 And Lincoln? 115 00:10:09,740 --> 00:10:11,280 More importantly, if there is a problem, 116 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:13,320 what is the town of Lincoln doing through the dressing? 117 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:16,040 Now, I spent a great deal of time in New York. 118 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,300 I brought that three days a week. 119 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,260 I'm great up in New York. 120 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,000 And we spent a lot of our time addressing the homeless issues in New York. 121 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,200 Again, hands on. 122 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,180 We are not a think tank, we're not a discussion group, we're not a philosophy group. 123 00:10:28,460 --> 00:10:29,900 We are there to alleviate shock. 124 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:33,980 Especially if you go fairly with your job, but again, consider you getting a little funding. 125 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:39,910 Is the time of the weekend providing any shelter of much whatever problems this time? 126 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:47,720 Hold on, come here, we can't. 127 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,320 Actually, let me just tell you what that question. 128 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,820 I'm going to read from Rhode Island General Law. 129 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,300 Nothing was in this chapter, this is the opening session. 130 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:57,380 Shall we give it any public body of the members? 131 00:10:57,380 --> 00:11:02,480 They're from a spawning economy initiated by member of the public trying to properly do this spoken for them. 132 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,380 Even if the subject matter of citizen comments or discussions, or not for the list of coaches, 133 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:09,340 the wide-trish matters shall be for an international public as well. 134 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:16,760 So, while I can ask, and you choose not to answer the question, you can, in fact, into a question mark. 135 00:11:16,940 --> 00:11:19,660 And that's really the time, solicitor, I'm sure you're familiar with the citation. 136 00:11:20,620 --> 00:11:23,700 Okay, so, you can answer, you don't choose not to. 137 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,760 It's a solicitor's advice is that I can't, the solicitor's advice is that we allow you to make public comment. 138 00:11:31,180 --> 00:11:35,520 The council takes it under his advisement in general, we recommend that they don't respond. 139 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,660 Why would you recommend that they've arranged this? 140 00:11:37,980 --> 00:11:39,340 I can go and watch that, I can go and watch that. 141 00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:47,120 Correct, I can probably say that they're shept's change of labour and sheet service you have in College of contraption. 142 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,920 I will show you a little bit of terrorist, I don't know what to do. 143 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:53,440 I have quite frankly I was at the water room. 144 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,080 just a few short weeks ago where people engage in back and forth, 145 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,720 not even during global session, but throughout the media. 146 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,220 So why would you leave on it? 147 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:03,340 And this is an important question. 148 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:04,840 Why would you advise that they not respond? 149 00:12:05,260 --> 00:12:08,260 Doesn't answer any questions directly, really, 150 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:10,620 unlimited, or a lot of the, sometimes, 151 00:12:11,580 --> 00:12:13,120 that there's no words that can seriously 152 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,660 theories just simply can answer any questions 153 00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:15,600 and doesn't that mean you? 154 00:12:19,270 --> 00:12:22,370 Generally with non-docated items that the council 155 00:12:22,370 --> 00:12:24,950 hasn't had an opportunity to prepare for it. 156 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:29,450 the solicitors' advice is not for them not to engage in a back and forth with... 157 00:12:29,450 --> 00:12:32,530 Well, it's okay. I just want to go on research in the counter. 158 00:12:32,910 --> 00:12:33,890 I'm going to say that's foolish. 159 00:12:34,230 --> 00:12:35,930 And I'm not trying to be judgmental. I'm trying to be insulting. 160 00:12:36,350 --> 00:12:38,170 I'm attacking. I'm not impersonal either the policy. 161 00:12:38,890 --> 00:12:40,230 That's a short-sighted conclusion. 162 00:12:40,830 --> 00:12:43,450 What should be happening, particularly during all the coming, 163 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:47,290 is that back and forth. I've got a world that I entered before and second? Sure. 164 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:49,610 So you asked the question, I'm going to answer it. Sure. 165 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:53,090 Last year, we had some very cold weather in Mandel. 166 00:12:53,090 --> 00:12:58,910 under the bridge at the white path my wife and I came across a couple living in a tent so we brought them 167 00:12:58,910 --> 00:13:03,090 soup when cold brought them loads, socks, different items, okay. 168 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:10,010 I tried to get them to leave and go to, I had the rescue chief come with me and we tried to get 169 00:13:10,010 --> 00:13:15,010 them shelter they refused to leave. So yes I don't want you to think we're a part of this we have 170 00:13:15,010 --> 00:13:19,950 tried and we do in certain circumstances try to do certain things so I just wanted to at least put 171 00:13:19,950 --> 00:13:24,350 That's right. I would never choose any of them. I didn't have a course. I think I was going to 172 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:29,410 count the president after the middle of that time. That was impressed. At the quality of not only 173 00:13:29,410 --> 00:13:33,850 the conversation of the council, but also from the professional members of the staff. I can tell you, 174 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:38,110 I don't say that in many places. With regard to the issue of the camera, we're getting back to the 175 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:43,610 main point. What traditions are the, is the child of Lincoln making in terms of self? We all understand 176 00:13:43,610 --> 00:13:48,370 that there are people who refuse to your soul. And I know that because I've been in that situation. 177 00:13:49,310 --> 00:13:56,390 And I don't doubt that the first responders in this community are top notch, but right now, 178 00:13:56,810 --> 00:14:00,370 I've tell you, you've had the same conversation with the city inside it, who has to provide 179 00:14:00,370 --> 00:14:02,510 sometimes it's safe to spend, sometimes they're only expensive. 180 00:14:02,890 --> 00:14:10,190 And I would tell you that the spiritual expense, the entire valley, is now at the home for everyone 181 00:14:10,190 --> 00:14:11,810 who's looking for a bed. 182 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:15,930 And I will argue with you that if you're going to propose an ordinance like this, when you're 183 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:23,070 essentially criminal like part of, like a lighter than that of a second, then you should be in a position where you're 184 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:28,390 egg providing relief. They turn it down, they turn it down, but they leave in a place of mess and they don't 185 00:14:28,390 --> 00:14:34,550 put it up in itself. That's a separate issue. But I don't know if the talent of Lincoln is in a position to 186 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:41,790 judge a place, a 250-dollar second at that time. On people who are simply having a place to go, you're 187 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:44,650 I'm willing to do it and you're willing to sleep on public property. 188 00:14:46,110 --> 00:14:47,130 And that's outrageous. 189 00:14:48,090 --> 00:14:51,030 And by the way, I know it very falsely. 190 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:54,070 You know, in both of the chat rooms in the conversations here. 191 00:14:54,170 --> 00:14:54,990 Well, just simplify. 192 00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:56,210 What happens? 193 00:14:56,910 --> 00:14:58,730 I asked, well, you will need not pay a civil fine. 194 00:14:59,870 --> 00:14:59,970 Deal. 195 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,560 These privileges, you lose your driver's license, you lose your ability to review a whole period of that. It's called the pipeline to power. 196 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:18,160 In the failure of this community that is living by the government, right, had the same conversation, you know, really hard tonight, to provide alternatives. 197 00:15:19,380 --> 00:15:27,880 I think it's really criminal. In your place, you unfair burden on the city, you want something, because that's what people end up going to. 198 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:32,520 And whereas Cobra Land and Lincoln have a picture of us from here, 199 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:41,400 we'll sort it then has to bear the grunt and they do it in a staunch of job and there's a whole range of non-profits beside mine that do whatever they can help us. 200 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,060 It's one of those generous communities I've ever seen, like rather than one hut. 201 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:53,920 But Lincoln does not also have to absorb them the spiritual aspect of it which you have in social services agencies. 202 00:15:53,920 --> 00:16:01,160 And the next downtown capacity for reach high and reach out because you've got this 203 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,600 on-the-pressant location for social services. 204 00:16:06,220 --> 00:16:06,880 And that's not right. 205 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:08,420 So my point is closing here. 206 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,620 I'll have to upgrade to a land plan, as I say. 207 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:13,720 Number one, you want it for all of those penalties. 208 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:14,500 In place. 209 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,220 I'm not sure if you can find this anything. 210 00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:19,300 No, no, no. 211 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:21,320 I started looking just to watch and I just, I was wondering. 212 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,600 I was laughing at you. 213 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,640 So, let's go back to that. 214 00:16:26,980 --> 00:16:31,080 One, there's an inch early stage. 215 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:32,280 I understand it's an early stage. 216 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,680 That's why, believe me, I'm not going to be the only person 217 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:35,540 who shows up in the time. 218 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,000 I'm not. 219 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,440 We are going to collect the least information 220 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,780 and soft that first beginning for persuasion. 221 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:56,720 using towns like Lincoln to promote the fair sharing of the responsibility of the statewide 222 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,240 product of homelessness. This is not a Lincoln product. Number two, we're going to educate 223 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:07,060 you as the negative impact that you're going to take with a proposal. Again, you're going to push 224 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:09,960 people in the poverty, you're going to push them into the criminality, you're going to force 225 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,320 them for example, come up with, I don't know where this person came up with 200 bucks. If you can't 226 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,060 forward, I sit as I wrote a single remark that you can't afford a living actually, you can't afford a 227 00:17:19,060 --> 00:17:24,520 night at one of our low-budget hotels in the area where in God's name we can come up with 228 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:29,000 doing it for adults. You're going to break up in campus with few major Indian town of curious 229 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,520 how things are problem this is. So it's just just a noble reaction from someone looking, 230 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,820 I'll be able to crash, you're looking at modern boats amongst certain audiences within this town. 231 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:51,840 It's a terrible object, it's anything, it's immoral and, frankly, I find the concept that 232 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,720 it tells in English and I mean that, would go forward even though the conversation about 233 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:02,260 proposal like this, to appeal to the very worst, the times like we can have thought. 234 00:18:03,060 --> 00:18:15,960 It's kind of wicked to step up, support and act responsibly towards this problem, and worry about that first before you criminalize people who have literally not. 235 00:18:17,020 --> 00:18:18,840 So I think I could just say one thing here. 236 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,460 I didn't respond to this. 237 00:18:20,660 --> 00:18:25,080 What I can tell you is for one, and I pretty much believe everybody has a castle. 238 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:26,700 I don't do anything for both. 239 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:30,440 So you're the whole media, you vote me out with you, like what I do and not, so that's 240 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:36,760 a little offensive to me, and secondly, you said, well, it could be a small problem. 241 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,260 But don't you think it could also turn into a larger problem? 242 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,440 I find some of it, I listen, I think this is a status you, I think it's a country issue, 243 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,360 be honest with you. 244 00:18:47,740 --> 00:18:52,720 I don't think the little municipalities have the funds or the ability to do a child. 245 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,420 I don't know, but I don't know why I'm not saying we dealt it on a bridge. 246 00:18:59,860 --> 00:19:02,640 And by the way, I'm not here to spend your first life. 247 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:10,200 If I take a tone, it's because I'm offended that in the year 2026, a town like Lincoln, 248 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:16,880 or a convertible for that person, will pursue such a long handed approach, before trying to unleash 249 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:22,460 Emiliary, minimums, but rest, the problem. 250 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:30,360 I don't see any purpose whatsoever in taking this any further unless your happens, at 251 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:36,140 the same time, an honest conversation, is a statewide problem for look upon how the state 252 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:41,560 of the panelists, whoop, he looked at, doesn't go on how they handle anything, and it's 253 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,420 appalling to be honest. 254 00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:50,640 You're not going to get disagreeing here, but the principal issue is right now you have certain talents who are the unfairly canals, and they're still with a smile 255 00:19:50,640 --> 00:20:00,560 Doug, that there's a little grumble in the background, but again, if you're going to pass, I'm not going to decide if you wake up a day, you criminalize homelessness because that's what's happening. 256 00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:04,580 Where the questions should be, where do you want these people to go? 257 00:20:06,020 --> 00:20:06,960 I'm opening solutions. 258 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,940 I think that's a, I respect what you're doing trust Matt, I don't want to see anybody homeless. 259 00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:15,120 I also think this is a matter I think. 260 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:18,440 The municipalities, we just don't have the money to do this stuff. 261 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,920 And if one socket's finding money, let's find out what how much this one is not possible. 262 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:23,800 That's what I'm saying. 263 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,780 So how much debt is one socket into now? 264 00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:28,940 So I'm just to believe that if you're already a debt, 265 00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:30,780 how do you give out low when you're already a debt? 266 00:20:30,780 --> 00:20:32,140 I don't think you can do that. 267 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:39,460 will socket a suffered tremendously because of the influx of homelessness on its tax-based 268 00:20:40,220 --> 00:20:46,820 on the town stairs, they have become largely the holding pattern for folks who have nowhere 269 00:20:46,820 --> 00:20:47,340 else to go. 270 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,960 Now, I am no objection to anything you've got to go to, or in this case, not going. 271 00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:56,380 Until you decide, I'm happy you haven't had to, you haven't been discussing it, I'm 272 00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:58,960 and preempting that, and believe it on a plate, 273 00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:02,280 and people who've exempted it, oh well, 274 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:03,580 there's people out there starting, 275 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,300 and there's, listen, put topic just last week, 276 00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:09,180 the lies across wonderful organizations, 277 00:21:09,420 --> 00:21:12,340 the order of over $50 million of goods to people 278 00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:12,920 since COVID. 279 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:17,960 They're out there, a city that's got a town that's got a soccer stadium 280 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,480 with the 10 million dollars of tax guarantee, 281 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,420 but you have bread lines, food lines, 282 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Senator, City Box law, I was there, why are you starting at 4th floor? 283 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:34,160 There is a problem here, and I'm saying that the state, I don't think, I would imagine, 284 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,180 and I'm a little bit tired, I'm not a family, all right? 285 00:21:37,860 --> 00:21:41,640 But I'll tell you this, do you want to address it on a town level more efficiently? 286 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,660 On Super level, what, what's the state of the round of the very respondent, billions of dollars 287 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:52,780 of voter sector, voter salaries, outrageous bureaucracies, and just overalmets? 288 00:21:54,340 --> 00:22:01,020 So, I care to, I care to, if you're going to penalize people who have nowhere to go, 289 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:07,380 but simply can't be out on municipal, on public property, penalize them to severe. 290 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,220 We can't have second-of-fetched $250. 291 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,860 That's, I understand it to propose. 292 00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:18,880 But I have found in the 30-plus years of politics that can make proposals at the base, 293 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:26,960 I can begin, before it gets a headstream, before it gets sick, and reading that, but I am 294 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,820 the mention of the absence of any real sophisticated. 295 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,800 As of storage, for these people's only belongings, if in fact, they're step-to-step by the police. 296 00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:45,300 And I look at my experience at police departments, they want no park, no park whatsoever, of acting in any capacity to locate the storage of people's personal belongings. 297 00:22:45,580 --> 00:22:52,400 They want no park, number one, there's a serious health issue there, in many cases, because folks are living on one road outside. 298 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:58,340 I'm living literally on dirt, with no real facilities, even cleaner views. 299 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:06,580 They want no part of that, so your proposal is going to touch in terms of how it handles 300 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:09,060 storage of their phone's abandoned property. 301 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:13,120 One of the big issues, the homeless is the fact that they lose their vacations, they lose 302 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:17,900 their documentation, they lose any personal information that they have, constantly. 303 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,240 And that can set that similar to that with no mail address, weeks, months even. 304 00:23:23,980 --> 00:23:26,000 Try to think, is anyone here trying to get a social care card there? 305 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,680 There's a lot that you don't have 20 forms of weight, and I'm not thinking that you should. 306 00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:36,900 So I just, this is not an attacker, because this is a policy preemptive. 307 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:45,100 And I'll say, I'll volunteer, and I'll volunteer my contacts to work with people to find a better solution. 308 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:51,940 Again, none of us in our world, it's called Mutual Lady, they pay for it and we do it 309 00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:56,900 because we see the failures of garment, we see the failures of big institutions, they are 310 00:23:56,900 --> 00:24:01,200 cross-words, we're also going to cross it, wonderful organization, to see y'all make 311 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,280 something forward with that emotion. 312 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,040 It's insane. 313 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,000 That makes sense. 314 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:05,200 Pretty much. 315 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,300 The United States, she makes two hundred seventy-five games. 316 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,060 These are people who are saying, I'm not asking people to do the mother-to-recent 317 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:27,480 But at the same time, my God, the greed, please don't go, go that way, I've got to do not start this process until you form some type of working group that's starting holises in life. 318 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:41,220 And what I'll say in the final, this is Leslie, all I would say to you is I have no problem with you doing this in life like that, but I think when you approach someone you say, someone doing it for votes, that's insulting to me. 319 00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:43,880 and I don't actually have a word self-imposed. 320 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080 I'm just telling you guys after 10 o'clock, I'm not going back on a ball. 321 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:49,580 I'm just saying sorry, I don't want to sound not saying to go back 322 00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:51,220 I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you. 323 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:51,840 I guess what? 324 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:52,960 I'll just whisper. 325 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,100 It is. 326 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,480 I'll just breathe different. 327 00:24:58,390 --> 00:25:01,870 I've been working in a round of programming as we have for decades. 328 00:25:03,250 --> 00:25:07,550 For different thing, my viewers and other viewers, people like us, is that we actually have sweat 329 00:25:07,550 --> 00:25:07,850 everywhere. 330 00:25:08,350 --> 00:25:14,870 That being said, I have rarely, except I've gotten anywhere without being a fester. 331 00:25:15,630 --> 00:25:20,730 I'm sorry, and I've really tried to tone it down to that because I need it. 332 00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:24,730 I think you've got, and I'm not trying to hate for that, as you were I said, I think you've got a wonderful time going. 333 00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:30,210 I have said to you, are they in a company that he should come over here and do it in a touch of it? 334 00:25:30,450 --> 00:25:31,910 Yeah, I've learned how it's done. 335 00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:33,670 Because I get, I'm guys doing a hell of a job. 336 00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:34,870 You do a great job with this. 337 00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:36,090 It was the one over well. 338 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:37,690 Was that almost the one over well? 339 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:39,050 It wasn't actually. 340 00:25:39,970 --> 00:25:42,850 Right, but I don't understand you played because I volunteered at the food market. 341 00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:43,350 No, no. 342 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:44,830 Okay, so I didn't understand all of this. 343 00:25:44,970 --> 00:25:45,110 I'm just... 344 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:48,670 You know, I'm preaching to the choir because the technical people were in this room right now. 345 00:25:49,050 --> 00:25:55,770 Are the very type of people who show up early themselves, stay late to clean up, and do a lot of work they've been hearing. 346 00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:58,710 That's the nature of folks who are in this room right now. 347 00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:04,330 But what I'm saying is you've got an issue that's coming heading like a virgin, and it's a whole discussion 348 00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:10,010 But again, I'll use the word, the interference, it's not meant to be quite criminalizing homelessness. 349 00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:13,230 That's, wait, it's again, it's a civil society. 350 00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:14,650 No, it's criminalizing homelessness. 351 00:26:14,910 --> 00:26:17,370 You're finding people who have nothing that to get. 352 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:20,050 All mine's saying this, head off this process. 353 00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:21,630 Head off. 354 00:26:22,370 --> 00:26:25,330 Sit down and take a deep breath and approach it. 355 00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:27,410 It's a talent. 356 00:26:28,570 --> 00:26:29,990 Understand the problem. 357 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:37,670 try to find and work with knowledgeable people and not just know to the people of there who have real solutions. 358 00:26:39,170 --> 00:26:43,430 Talk to and I believe in one of the realiest people in here, I really don't follow them. 359 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:45,790 I wear church gentlemen. Talk to people who are listening to me. 360 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:48,830 Talk to people at, as for example, proud council churches. 361 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:51,630 They share the program by the way. 362 00:26:51,930 --> 00:26:57,350 And yes, very little money from the state where they turn three churches that's winter into homeless others. 363 00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:58,650 They call it that way, you see that. 364 00:26:58,990 --> 00:27:01,470 You want to face it, you don't not stand for no one dies, 365 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:04,490 because people die, you die, you instruct them, 366 00:27:04,550 --> 00:27:05,650 die, you ask your parents. 367 00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:10,370 Two, a mother is sent die in their car, right outside of the hospital. 368 00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:14,570 And they weren't even identified or found for a week. 369 00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:15,390 They're dead. 370 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:17,230 So that's offensive. 371 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:20,430 And then nothing happens at anybody's record. 372 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:24,210 The car is stated that the situation of policies 373 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:25,710 and nothing short of it to say ashes. 374 00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:27,290 I'll be not keeping the point. 375 00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:30,490 I'm not a chef at the election time. 376 00:27:30,650 --> 00:27:31,570 I'll just say that. 377 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:36,590 So again, just keeping head off the process, do the right thing, 378 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:42,410 and take a deep breath before this turns out to be something 379 00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:43,850 less than half the color of that. 380 00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:44,850 I love you. 381 00:27:45,150 --> 00:27:46,710 I love you so much on these CEOs. 382 00:27:47,410 --> 00:27:49,610 But I think, I love you a lot on these CEOs. 383 00:27:50,050 --> 00:27:52,670 No CEO and a nonprofit should make over on the $1,000. 384 00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:56,730 There are organizations in the state that have a way to go to talk to any of you guys up on it. 385 00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:01,310 You might part of our model, other ways, we're not from the government, but actually you're there to help. 386 00:28:01,530 --> 00:28:02,090 That's our model. 387 00:28:03,670 --> 00:28:07,130 But you've got a number of organizations in the state of our model. 388 00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:12,710 Using non, basically, real state investment management companies, hiding behind non-profitable companies, 389 00:28:12,890 --> 00:28:16,810 which allows all that SD and money that you're supposed to pay in taxes and property taxes 390 00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:18,330 to you guys, 391 00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:22,650 right? 392 00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:28,170 They're not paying taxes, they're not paying taxes, they're not paying taxes, they're not paying their taxes, 393 00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:29,970 they're not paying their taxes, they're not paying their taxes, they're not paid their tax stocks, 394 00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:32,070 and that's what happens to a community like Musaki. 395 00:28:33,070 --> 00:28:39,690 Everybody's not caught. Everybody, you get a Habitabas, you get a TSA, you get a Tax Index, you get a Tax Index, you get your tax index, you get that. 396 00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:41,350 All right, that's the hand available. 397 00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:44,670 So, another way. 398 00:28:45,630 --> 00:28:48,630 I have another work for it, let's just say, I call it all over the country. 399 00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:54,390 I like most people who are going to get up to an impression. 400 00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:56,770 I'm offered my help. 401 00:28:57,030 --> 00:28:59,130 I'll tell you anyway, I can't. 402 00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:01,690 I don't think it operates at a very high level. 403 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:05,690 I look at your schools and then I look at all of the schools. 404 00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:07,750 The community is to have the same money. 405 00:29:08,150 --> 00:29:12,090 And I see a town that can really effectively administer it in one-to-one time. 406 00:29:12,190 --> 00:29:14,070 Don't let this one fix. 407 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:15,190 Yeah, I feel like that. 408 00:29:15,310 --> 00:29:15,970 Thank you. 409 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:42,460 I would love to add on to that, basically reiterating everything, said, already, but I will say that for the next ordinance subcommittee meeting, because what I wanted to talk about was the memorial or nothing more of a walker blocks project. 410 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:51,840 I was going to say this at the public hearing, but they're not here, so I figured I would continue with it anyway because it might inspire some questions. 411 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:59,980 And I think it actually does hope tie into the conversation that was just starting about the cycle of life. 412 00:30:02,450 --> 00:30:08,950 So before, I know that we all know who you are, just identify yourself with, I can please. 413 00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:10,410 Can we go age? 414 00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:11,850 67 rocker growth. 415 00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:13,730 I can choose the word, no problem. 416 00:30:15,410 --> 00:30:18,730 So before I get into my survey, it's really quickly 417 00:30:18,730 --> 00:30:20,970 to want to say, I am fully supported with the Walker 418 00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:21,930 loss project. 419 00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:25,630 While there are very much a gallon of critiques 420 00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:28,130 of the state's portal housing halls, 421 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:31,270 and I'm not wanting to say that they are all great, 422 00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:32,550 because they're not all great. 423 00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:35,890 I do very much believe in e-commerce 101, 424 00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:42,510 supply demands, every new unit will help bring down costs, even if it's not the most optimal 425 00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:50,910 unit. But with that, I'm going to get into my little story. So a year ago, the town saw the 426 00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:57,510 finishing of the memorial school, affordable housing project. When that finished, I actually 427 00:30:57,510 --> 00:31:04,210 reached out in the fight for a unit because at the time, I had just transitioned into my new role as 428 00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:06,670 support very public school district in Massachusetts. 429 00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:12,650 I got an actual working class salary 430 00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:17,910 that would allow me to afford to even think about leaving the house, which I am very grateful 431 00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:25,530 for. I know many people my age cannot even think about that. And I thought that the memorial 432 00:31:25,530 --> 00:31:30,770 school was a great example of how we could do affordable housing great. So I reached out 433 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:44,670 My sophomore information and the cost per unit for a studio at the time was 1475 a month. 434 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:51,590 For a one bedroom it was 1675 a month and for a two bedroom it was 1875 a month. 435 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:57,030 And because this was a quarter of a housing, there were income limits. 436 00:31:57,790 --> 00:32:04,430 So one person, their whole amount of income they can make per year was $64,000. 437 00:32:05,150 --> 00:32:06,610 $64,000 in $50. 438 00:32:07,410 --> 00:32:09,830 For two people, it was $73,200. 439 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:13,710 And for three people, it was $82,350. 440 00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:17,730 So I'm not gonna ask you all to do all the math in your head up. 441 00:32:17,730 --> 00:32:18,570 have already. 442 00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:26,670 There are many levels of policy makers at the federal, state and local 443 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:35,090 level of government and advocacy groups and think tanks that say the basis for affordability 444 00:32:35,090 --> 00:32:39,870 is spending no more than 30% of your income on housing costs. That includes a more 445 00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:44,490 advantage if you own rent, if you are rent or as well as any utilities. 446 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:58,370 Now, for this long sale, I have a school building for a household of one with an income 447 00:32:58,370 --> 00:33:07,750 limit of $64,000, $64,000, $64,000. I mean that 30% of your income is $1600 and $1.25 448 00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:18,770 in twenty-five cents a month. Now that is less than the one bedroom rent at the Memorial 449 00:33:18,770 --> 00:33:26,150 School Project, which is supposed to be affordable, which means that even if you make the 450 00:33:26,150 --> 00:33:33,670 absolute top of the income limit, you could not afford to live at the Memorial School Project 451 00:33:33,670 --> 00:33:39,710 know one veteran unit. You can do it if you were a with a partner and you had that higher 452 00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:46,570 enrollment but a one person household cannot afford a one veteran unit. You would be spending 453 00:33:46,570 --> 00:33:53,530 more than 30% of your income and that's not including utilities. For a two household size that's 454 00:33:53,530 --> 00:34:02,230 a 30% that you're income is 1830 a month, which is less than a two veteran rent of 1875 a month. 455 00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:12,970 So what we ended up having was a project that while well-intentioned, and while I still think is good in the end, 456 00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:18,130 is falling short on providing real affordability. 457 00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:24,370 And when we are creating affordable units that require people to be housing cost burdened, 458 00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:28,770 we are kicking off the cycle of poverty that needs to people being homeless. 459 00:34:28,770 --> 00:34:32,950 because they can't find any word cheaper than this. 460 00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:37,710 1675 or one veteran in the state of Rhode Island is amazing right now. 461 00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:42,850 But if you stay, you don't have plenty to pay off debt. 462 00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:47,930 If you end up in a car accident, you need to fix a car and can't afford to fix a car. 463 00:34:48,390 --> 00:34:53,690 If you end up in a medical accident, or you can't get in a state you can't afford your medical bills. 464 00:34:53,690 --> 00:35:04,610 And that cycle kicks off, because you can't find the better place to live, because there's no cheaper options, and you're still following behind. 465 00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:19,270 So, I know that there is a lot that we cannot control about state housing law, especially because it's also influenced by better old policy and the amount of requirements that we have to need for better old housing dollars. 466 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:31,270 But I really hope that as we look at more affordable housing projects, the town council and other communities can ask these questions about 467 00:35:32,050 --> 00:35:42,590 Are these units, are we meeting the income level need is that people are not getting trapped in a cycle of poverty in these affordable projects? 468 00:35:42,590 --> 00:35:47,590 and hopefully influence state lawmakers, other policy makers. 469 00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:51,550 I mean, as was just mentioned, 470 00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:55,190 we know that they are not great on a lot of policy areas, 471 00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:58,970 but we have to hope and continue working 472 00:35:59,570 --> 00:36:01,950 that there will be a better policy in the future. 473 00:36:02,190 --> 00:36:03,710 And I hope that having these conversations 474 00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:06,590 of the local level will help keep that up. 475 00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:10,230 So when Walker walks next month, 476 00:36:10,290 --> 00:36:12,410 I hope that we can find a little bit more information 477 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:19,470 about the cost of those units, the income needed to qualify to 11 those units and whether those 478 00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:26,110 numbers actually make sense for ensuring people do not end up being housing off burden 479 00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:28,210 and affordable housing projects. 480 00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:29,570 Thank you. 481 00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:30,370 Thank you. 482 00:36:36,980 --> 00:36:41,040 Say, we're going to be split three, seven, five, three, seven, five, five, five, five. 483 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,900 I introduce myself to all of you with a rather of not just email, I'm going to be post, 484 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,840 But I hope that you guys are going to be laughed like I've been troubled. 485 00:36:52,780 --> 00:36:58,500 I genuinely hope that to take away from that is that there's something to learn from what 486 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:03,920 happened with the blocks, stuff here, there's an intersection between how professional life 487 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,160 and stuff to be exposed to, litigating, and what is going on with data collection in the state 488 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,220 in the town. 489 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:21,220 It is targeted to small municipalities by large targeted equity back interests so that you participate in collecting the surveillance on your constituents. 490 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:28,020 I have packets of verified articles from why you're talking about the AI data tools that are in the operating block. 491 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,960 There are articles from WWE. 492 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:59,980 You are the clockwise in the city of Boston about where the data is going. It is not even accurate. It is not as use-in with us at one of the movies, just simply as the same thing has had in itself on this track in many ways. That's not how this works. It's about predictive policing. They are not simply taking a license plates. You need to be better than this. Because, as we continue in the 21st century, data collection in the constituents will cut across all spheres of what you are in that case. 493 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,480 legislation about, it's not just policing tools, and you cannot wait for the state to show 494 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,400 up and bear you up. You have every right and obligation as legislators for this town to enact 495 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,880 common sense legislation. You can finance this crap or a surplus type, and if you aren't going 496 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,320 to do that, you're an utter derogation of the duties to ask for the decisions. And genuinely, 497 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,780 I cannot appreciate enough what people in this room do for our account. 498 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,060 I'm a pain in the ass. 499 00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:31,660 That's what I plan to avoid. 500 00:38:31,780 --> 00:38:33,180 That's why I do this stuff. 501 00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:34,620 And he knows it too. 502 00:38:35,620 --> 00:38:39,040 But all of that means that people actually give a damn show up 503 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,420 or what people use like this operating together. 504 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:44,520 But you need to educate yourself about this. 505 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,480 This isn't something spheres you hear. 506 00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:48,400 This isn't some crooked crap. 507 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,780 Everything that goes into plot becomes not our data. 508 00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:55,820 is networked for other municipalities to work. 509 00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:59,260 And a lot of equipment police, it took my daughter 510 00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:01,820 when she had a seizure at the back of the car of my mother 511 00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:03,520 law, I had zero problems. 512 00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:07,420 They get kids in my five-class at one field across the street. 513 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,380 But you are sharing our data and arm formation 514 00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:14,840 on AI-added algorithmic tools with everyone 515 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,580 in the block system. 516 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,320 And they're lying to me if you think of it. 517 00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:22,700 And so I genuinely do not want 518 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:29,800 I'm sitting up here and sitting you guys are idiots for stupidity messed up, and I know that letter certainly implied that I feel that way. 519 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,140 But be better, educate yourself. 520 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:40,440 The town of Waltham, Artists may be a city that is enacting a self-study group to set up locked ordinances. 521 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,880 The city is inventor now has draft ordinances. 522 00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:47,940 The ACLU has guidance on how to draft ordinance about this one. 523 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,760 All of that is in the packet. 524 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,840 I compare to each one of you and for the clerk, if the one who is in the need to put it into the public record, 525 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,800 I'll put it on an agenda for October. 526 00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:06,820 It is simple. You can't sit around as we've seen from all this discussion, homelessness, and hope the state comes out for something. 527 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:12,580 Because I will be honest with you many of them are lawyers in the legislature and many of them are idiots. 528 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,100 So, it is simple. 529 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,360 So, please do rise to one else's performance. 530 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,700 That's what I do every day. 531 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,900 Please rise to one else's performance. 532 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,240 You look at it. 533 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:24,600 Set up a working group. 534 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,800 You can ban facial recognition and plot and run pictures of people through facial recognition 535 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,580 to picture. 536 00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:33,820 You can ban predicted policing. 537 00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:37,080 But why don't you apply to the right ear meat? 538 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,920 And again, I'm going to put it here. 539 00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:39,980 You can eat it. 540 00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:40,700 You're pissed off. 541 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:41,620 You don't have to. 542 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:49,000 We'll show you that this is about paying heat meds, with a flock subscription, thank you to the Chairman, where you drive. 543 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,720 There are places on the TV and put in license plate and you can figure out if you've been flocked. 544 00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:59,340 They can figure out who you associate with, where you're driving, when you're driving. 545 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,240 They can easily create a hot blister. 546 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:06,060 He blitzed to determine whether or not that they should pay any duty extra scrutiny. 547 00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:12,060 Maybe if I twist out the cheap police enough with what without an alleged violation of my civil liberties, 548 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,060 he could just simply follow me around the town of Lincoln, P.S. very, 12 pounds. 549 00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:20,660 And all of that is being interviewed with other AI policing tools and data collection. 550 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,620 So, now I can experience this is how this works. 551 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,220 So, I implore you. 552 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,720 Set up a working room. 553 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,120 Email me. 554 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,060 I'll dump all the cracks even at the PDF. 555 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,600 It's all printed out. 556 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:38,220 There are a little bit of weak reactoryances that we can all feel like they were plagiarized and do something about this. 557 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:39,840 I've got to go against that. 558 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:40,660 Yeah, I've got to go against that. 559 00:41:40,660 --> 00:41:40,920 Yeah, I've got to go against that. 560 00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:44,380 And like, I know I keep it hot. 561 00:41:44,780 --> 00:41:45,680 But I certainly got to attend. 562 00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:47,600 And I hope to do something fun to that. 563 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,980 Because we stand around and wait for the state to do this. 564 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,720 Because if you pull up whose law of need to stay where I am, 565 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:55,180 get used to that five laws. 566 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,840 And once you put it, you need to define the terms. 567 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,600 You'll learn about the different policing, about audio collection, 568 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,440 and then every goddamn contract from outside business comes to it here. 569 00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:10,700 You need to read it and figure out who has our data. 570 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,120 If you're making sure that they can classify it as something 571 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,940 that David Fester will find, and it becomes their data. 572 00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:17,960 Please. 573 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,800 That's all I asked him. 574 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,620 So can I just answer one quick question? 575 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,940 So you're not against block cameras, like I'm not against block cameras, 576 00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:35,200 but I would want some like guidelines and things that stop what you say because I don't 577 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,220 I don't want to do that either, but I also think they have a purpose so am I just so 578 00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:42,420 I'm understanding you. 579 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,900 You're not saying outlaw, you're saying I make sure you've got the mechanism around them 580 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,780 so none of this stuff goes anywhere they're supposed to be. 581 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,760 Two points. 582 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,760 But you want to overwhelm your data. 583 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,340 There is a study in the map. 584 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,560 There are multiple studies by policing and justice in cities, 585 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,180 occupying federal money, 586 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:02,980 blocked as a crack for collecting cars. 587 00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:04,400 They're for collecting, 588 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:06,340 splitting cars or whatever it is. 589 00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:10,020 No, there is not a verified data outside of the block universe, 590 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,020 which establishes its effective policing tool. 591 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,180 But if you want to pull from your website, 592 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,800 every minute I've got, 593 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,300 so yes, I don't think there should be block cameras. 594 00:43:19,580 --> 00:43:21,020 I don't think that anybody in this town 595 00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:26,080 know where to call a drive. What are you for that matter? But if you're going to somehow 596 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,540 wait for a few seconds if that could be easy to control, you're better and read up on it, 597 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,260 figure out how you can put guidelines and see it over a second. Because right now, we've already 598 00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:41,920 seen the company and it's that third, it's like a spousal, an infinite partner line, people stop 599 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,400 and folks, people can create masks and keep masks and track your data in a way that this is 600 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,260 for currently does not say it's a formative violation or evasion of privacy and they can track 601 00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:58,940 you around this time. Are you a fan of that? I'm just totally what I said. But I know also 602 00:43:58,940 --> 00:44:03,080 that, and I'm not gonna, I don't want to, I'm not gonna, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want 603 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,960 to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I just 604 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:12,160 ask you, I just ask you about that, and you answer me, but all I'm saying is I know in district court 605 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,700 I spent a lot of time there. 606 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,240 I know there's eight, 10 cases a day that have 607 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,640 flat camera involvement in prosecution 608 00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:21,820 to help the prosecution of a case. 609 00:44:22,220 --> 00:44:23,840 So I'm just some, I'm a guy that's saying, 610 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,320 I'm not at totally against it. 611 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,860 I think it should be used in a tool, 612 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,700 but I also agree with you that that tool needs 613 00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:35,540 to be protected like a metal drum, like locked in. 614 00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:37,820 But again, if you will read this, and I know. 615 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,200 And I want to get ready. 616 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,640 like they like the city boss as to what the day you will share. 617 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:48,180 They just straight up hide and the bossity boss has turned off data's dissemination, and it's still the storm. 618 00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:59,980 Like, I mean so, what you have to do is you have to change the contract, you have to enact ordinance to the non-vaccine domain, and that doesn't justify a plot of twice a decade. 619 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,800 We can start information. 620 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,520 What we are doing is we can be patient. 621 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,160 How many are you waiting for? 622 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,240 We're waiting for you to come and listen to our leaders and call it a live alarm. 623 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,960 Give us a message. 624 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:25,640 If you want to hear my name, please ask me a question. 625 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:29,120 I want to give you the action in which you can respond to the remote control. 626 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:35,100 But like they don't even know where I'm driving in my home town and that's correct. You're on the line and you should do 627 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,760 No one needs to know that 628 00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:45,320 So with that I'll need the packets here and I'll be back to every public meeting put it on and join up to inform the peace of your people 629 00:45:46,420 --> 00:45:48,120 Thank you. Thank you for the information 630 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,200 But it works. Anything else? 631 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:59,020 Thank you. I'll let's take a motion to adjourn some of the second full favor