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All right, well, good evening. Let's call the fire in mass-stamping public information meeting to order. This is September 23, it is 603 PM. Meeting will be held both in person and remotely. That is the call to order for order of businesses. Roll call, please.

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Supervisor Zimmerman here. Supervisor Livingston.

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He is excused, he's out down.

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Supervisor Lee?

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Absent, I don't know where she is.

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That makes too bad.

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Supervisor Palmer?

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Chairman Mike.

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I am here.

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Thank you very much.

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Our item of business this evening is information session regarding the fire EMS stamping proposal.

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To be considered by town electors on Monday, October 7, 2020, 4, at 7 p.m. in the linen town hall.

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This meeting this evening is for discussion only what we will do is we will start with a short presentation to give you an overview to let you know how we got to where we are today.

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Then we will have both our current fire chief Pete Jones speak. Also John Peters the fire chief from the city of Lake Geneva. We will then have some final comments and input for our presentation.

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And after that we will open it up to the audience for any questions or comments that you may have regarding the proposal.

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So without further ado, I will turn it over to our Administrator Jim Burley, who will begin our presentation.

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Did you be everyone?

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I'd like to everyone say we prepared some slides to inform you about the partnership with the City of Lake Geneva,

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in the township for the provide very messed services, which just started this past February and to talk about how we got to that point in the town board game to this decision to choose that partnership and then I'll ask for some comments from Chief Jones and Chief Peters.

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Providing a broad overview of really what the goal the partnership is in the type of service that you're getting.

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The city of Lake Geneva provides a minimum of three emergency personnel on-scene to medical emergencies.

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They provide a paramedic level service to the community, response times to all emergency calls in less than 10 minutes,

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80% of the time in non-Rural areas, and 15 minutes in rural areas.

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The city will continue to provide to respond to all firing U.S. calls on the North Shore.

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And this is the most cost effective model due to the sharing of fleet and equipment and administrative personnel which really ties into the public administration and associates study that we'll get into later and I hope you all get a chance to take a look at that on our website.

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Lynne's fiery misstaffing challenges. Lynne has long been served, proudly by a paid-on-call

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volunteer fiery misstafferment. In the past, we had approximately 25 to 30 members at one

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to one time, including a members that were available during regular business hours in weekends.

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Currently, their department has approximately six active personnel who can respond to calls

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year-round, and most numbers are available to a limited number of calls for service per month.

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Lin is now receiving more calls for service, especially on the EMS side, due to an aging and

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growing population, as well as service level expectations changing. In paid-on-call numbers,

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are unable to meet the increasing training requirements for emergency personnel, which have

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come a lot more challenging in the last several years and decade going back further.

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The initial agreement with the city of Lake Geneva for EMS staffing, so our approach was

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to see if we can find a staffing model that worked without going to 247 and initially

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in 2021, we began contracting with the city to provide 2 EMS personnel or station from Monday

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through Friday, 70, and at the 5 p.m. because that's the most of our members were at work,

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and we were experiencing the biggest challenges. The partnership did result and improved response

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times in more consistent responses in terms of the level of service provided. During periods of

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that contractual staffing coverage, we need to need an EMS staff responded to the majority of EMS

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calls in 10 minutes or less. However, despite those improvements, we continue to experience challenges

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outside of those contractual hours in the evenings and on the weekends.

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So what did we do? The next thing we did was we hired public administration associates

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to conduct a study to review current operations options for the town and help us

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with data and analysis to determine what is the best model for the services that we need.

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So we were hired to hire them in 2023 to conduct a comprehensive study in analysis,

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reviewing staffing, vehicles, apparatus needs, and facilities.

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The study, which included interviews with Binary MS members, I think we had about 14 at that time.

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And then we looked at three different options.

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For one, it was maintaining the current service level.

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Two, it was creating a Lynn Binary MS standalone model.

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And three, partnering with the City of Lake Geneva to provide 24-7 Binary MS coverage.

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The

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partnership with the City of Lake Geneva, we consider we reviewed the response times,

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the quality of care, the cost options, and the feedback from Lynn members, and the townboard

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ultimately decided to agree to a one-year agreement with the City of Lake Geneva to staff

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the Lynn's Firehouse 24-7 with professional fire AMS services.

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The partnership, again, includes the following service levels, those three emergency personnel

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on seeing to medical emergencies,

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paramedic level service to the community,

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and again, that goal of 10 minutes,

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80% of the time, better at non-oral areas

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than 15 minutes in rural areas.

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This time, I'll ask Chief Jones,

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if you could come up to the podium

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to talk a little bit more from your experience

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about some of the challenges that we've had

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and the partnership with the City of Lake Geneva.

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We have six active members and three members that are non-active right now on our roster.

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With Lake Chief, we've been able to answer calls for the last year.

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And we're down to seven minutes and 20 seconds reaching someone's house now, averaging.

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So that's a very slow-stepping people at our station, 24-7.

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The biggest challenges, we're not at the station, we're all at home.

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So it takes us 10 minutes to get...

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For the firehouse, just to get off the door. So that makes a big difference on saving someone's life.

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It's everything is worked out perfect so far.

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We've got people there, so anyone comes up to the door for someone there. It's just so much better feeling that there's someone there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yep. We also have Lake Geneva Chief, Chief Peters. Chief Peters, if you can talk currently about

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Kurds staffing and how things are working so that President could be aware.

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Good evening, everyone. Chief Trump, here's the relationship of fire department.

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Thank you for having me. We've had a successful relationship with the town alone for several years.

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When I started on the fire department way back when we worked very often with the town alone.

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fought fires, worked a lot with us, some folks in the audience as well as Chief Jones fighting

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fires, and we had it work very often with the talent of length. This is in a new relationship

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for us at all. The things that are happening with the talent of length, with a change and staff

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and the lack of availability of a staff is a nationwide issue. It's happening to all of us.

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If you look on any, if you Google paid on call firefighters, this is unfortunate, they

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have common problem, we're having throughout our nation.

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So this isn't a tunnel in issue, or a city of LH&E issue, it's a global issue, unfortunately.

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So this is just a thing we're trying to do to fill that gap, and to make it so that we can

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respond to in a timely fashion and provide that service, unfortunately.

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this is the next step. With that being said, there was a study that was put together by the

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township and the city we did a study as well. With what that being said, these things were

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identified to be able to meet to provide you service and to do that appropriately.

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We currently

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are meeting and surpassing the study time frame response, which I'm happy to tell you that.

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So in that timeframe, it was at 10 minutes and at 8 minutes, and we're responding quicker

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than that.

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That's wonderful.

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I have gotten some feedback from the tunnel in and excuse me, some residents directly

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that we are providing good service to them, and that we've had some successors, which is

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wonderful as well.

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We provide together just as that says that they're stronger, we are stronger together.

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The goal would be to continue to build that relationship and make that a stronger together and continue to foster that and make that better.

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What that being said was our response time.

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We also have increased the service that a community through Permanent, right?

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So before it was at Advanced CMT, we now bring the Permanent to that.

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They also, in addition to that, you have a fire emergency, we have somebody there three people going out the door.

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We know that we used to say as firefighters when we started in this fire, fire doubles every minute.

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Now we say every 30 seconds of fire doubles.

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So that's important to us as well.

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So we get somebody to you quicker.

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And then more folks come as we need that.

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That's all I have for you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And speaking to Chief Peters, one of the questions is for Lynn residents and members that want

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to continue to serve.

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They can continue under the City of like Geneva.

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There will be that opportunity to still respond to call.

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So the paid on call fees is still there.

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Okay, so one of the questions, people of the neighbors, how much is this going to cost us?

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In the total annual cost is $1.9 million.

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One of the things to keep in mind is that our current tax liability includes 1.5 million borrowing for the service,

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which we've had to cover the agreement through the end of the year.

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But we would be able to reduce those borrowing costs if we were able to include this service in the tax level.

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And then, per the PAA study, we have to look at the bigger picture of what were our options and what's most cost-effective.

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And the study recommended that there would be the reductions in fleet and equipment and administrative personnel, especially as we get further into the agreement.

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there's maybe some more equipment that we could share rather than buying things to sort at the

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land station alone. There could be some sharing opportunities. No additional costs for recruiting

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hiring, and training, a standalone firing emissed department, which not only is it the challenge

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of the cost, but also the time frame in retention. We need to have at least, let's say, 10 people,

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including a fire chief, and then to bring everybody up to that paramedic level service that you're

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getting, that's going to take a lot of time and if they take a job elsewhere for a

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position, we could very much be reduced to providing with the three people at the

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station to two, which we've heard from some municipalities, that's what they've had to do,

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which is very unfortunate. Also, cost avoidance for any kind of additional satellite

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station on the north side, which you would have to provide with a standalone department.

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And one of the things too is our supervisor, Livingston mentioned, his reduction in his

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and service premium. So that's where things you could reach out and let you let your

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insurance provider know that you're getting 24-7 Pyramid services, which could reduce your premium costs.

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So just to give an example, we all know the revaluation just happened. So I'm going to give you an

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example of what the look at your tax bill, what the difference would be. So if your home with a

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set is currently at a million dollars, and then it's moving up to $1.7 million, which is a 70

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percent increase, which is the average that we're seeing across the community, we look

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at what that cost portion would be, and Lynn's portion would increase if you include

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both our capital expenses and our firing and staffing by 18 percent, and the estimated annual

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tax increase for that $1.7 million house is $489 per year or $1.34 per day. The

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the town budget also does include some capital expenses that are related. For one, first

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sink fire, many pumpers to get better access to narrow roads and driveways, firey

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mist building modifications were changing the office spaces into dorms or bunk rooms for

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the 24-7 staffing, but also our other infrastructure improved roads, drainage bridges,

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is replacing our highway bucket truck, our storm sirens, and equipment replacement for emergency

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responders. We're also going to have two ambulances, so we're going to have those equipped

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with paramedic level services.

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So with that said, I'll turn over to Chairman

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And I think before we turn it over for questions,

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your town board did not take this way.

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Like this is something that we've been looking at for a number of years as Chief Jones said, our amount of volunteers, or paid on call, our group that we had at the town of Lynn, continues to go into over a number of years.

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We were really obligated to these people and really wanted the existing model to work.

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and Chief Jones in the group attempted to try to recruit, to find other people, changing demographics,

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changing workloads, changing attitudes of employers, no longer allow the person to be at a local

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company and to be able to lead but to a clock in the afternoon for a call. There used to be

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businesses right down the street here, they'd let their people come to the fire station and go to

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That doesn't happen any more due to a couple of things.

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Probably workload at the employer, also liability.

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And so with that demographics and changing lifestyles,

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it really forced this issue a bit.

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As Chief Peter said, it's not happening just here in the

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Tolerance.

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It's happening in many, many communities all over the

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United States and around the area.

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If you look, you know,

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Fontana Williams Bay of Partners,

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over and while wallwork there's been a

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a partnership and a merger. It's happening all over the place. And so we didn't take it lightly.

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We looked at the three options. One maintaining our existing model. We went back to the fire department at that time and said,

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before we opt to make a decision on this study, can you tell us, can you find a way to make this existing model work?

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And they came back to us and they said, no, they can't. So at that point in time we were left with two options.

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Stirner, all stand-alone, fiery, and messed-up armament down to limb, probably take two years to implement, and the cost would be much higher than a partnership.

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Also, by doing something like that, we have this wonderful area on the North Shore that separated how do we access the North Shore and would we have to duplicate it on the North Shore.

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So that became problematic from a financial perspective.

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So thirdly, it was the partner.

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Like Geneva is strategically and geographically located in between South Shore and North Shore.

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And so what we're doing is using them with their resources and their staffing to staff at our building.

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That's what we're proposing here.

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That's what we're doing this year.

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One of the things is, our trucks are going to continue to be the same.

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The equipment's going to be ours. It's the town of Liv. When they go out of that station,

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it's going to stay in town of Liv's fire department, staff by the late Geneva people,

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where we will help share resources, and get you in a more timely manner.

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One of the other interesting parts about this. I'm right now, we're looking at $1.9 million.

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That's staffing of three right now. Three is the minimum that we can have to show up at a call.

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So we can't stay up with two. You gotta start with three. One of the beauties of it is right now our annual call volume is about 300 calls a year if I'm not mistaken.

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Three people will get you to about 500 or 550 calls a year.

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So we do have some wiggle room in there in the existing staffing that all of a sudden we're not going to come back next year and say we got to kick it to five people.

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We got to work our way up over time to get to those numbers of calls.

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Will we get there?

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And, fortunately, I'm sure we will do the two things.

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Aging population number one increased population in the township.

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We have a lot of vacant land that's going to continue to be developed.

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We need to provide these services to those people.

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So, I hope that gives you a better context of where it came from from the town board perspective

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and gives you a little bit more insight.

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Mr. Herlo.

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questions. We can open it up for questions. So at this point in time, I will ask by the

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raise of Anne's, if anybody has a question or comment, we can, you know, we as a group can answer,

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we have the chiefs who are here, we also have Tim France, who is a representative from PAA Public Administration Associates.

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They are the ones that did our Fire EMS study for us. So he can answer questions if it's directed at them.

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So please raise your hand and I'll try to grab as quick as I can.

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I saw the first answer here.

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I would ask that you, we got people remotely.

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So I would ask when you ask your question, come on up to the podium.

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State your name, your address, your question, or your comment.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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My name is Linda Hayman.

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I live at N237 for no wood drive in the no wood subdivision on the North Shore.

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First of all, I want to apologize for contributing to your problem.

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I am both a new full-time resident and an aging resident as of last year.

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But nonetheless, regardless of our age, this is an important service.

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Thankfully, we've never had to have calls by our police to my home,

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but if we did have to call it like to know that somebody came as quickly as possible.

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I have two questions, mostly because I'm just on informed.

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I know there's a fire station just north of here.

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Is that correct for the town of Lynn?

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That's where it's located?

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That is then.

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Correct.

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It's over here.

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Yes.

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So when I, I would have been known, what I'm on the North Shore, if I have to call fire department, where does that fire truck come from?

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Presently and where will it come under this new plan?

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City of Lake Geneva.

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Okay.

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So that doesn't change.

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That is correct.

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So the staffing that you're looking for is additional personnel both at the City of Lake Geneva station and the land station or help me understand that.

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You bring up a great point and I don't think we explained that well enough.

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Right now, all calls on the door shore are handled by the city of Lake Geneva from their

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Lake Geneva Fire Station. That will continue. The staffing will be to staff our fire department

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location here on Hillside Road on the south shore to handle the calls on the south shore. Part

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of the agreement with the city of Lake Geneva is we will have the staffing here, but they will

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still continue to respond to all the calls on the North Shore.

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That's built into that cost that we got into the detail of it.

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There is a cost reimbursement to them for the number of calls that they have on the North Shore as a percentage of their total calls.

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Perfect.

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Okay.

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Thank you very much.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you.

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So on another hand over here on this side.

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Name in the dress first and then comment or question please.

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I got 10 questions.

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Charlie Handel, W3751, Franklin Alt Street, Thunder, Retired, EMST, I don't know.

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Just odd ball, kind of cool keeping questions.

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Staffing at Lynn's, precious, or fire station here.

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Three with one parametric.

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What is it?

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One or two parametric.

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Okay.

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money for calls, where's it going? You guys still build, don't we? Correct. So we still are

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recruiting that, but that's we're hoping so offset some of the $1.9 million. Yes. So it's

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Saturday. Okay. Response time. What's national average? I thought the 15 is kind of high.

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That's what the signing code for our average, yeah. Well, it's safe.

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That's kind of looking for what state effort, back in the day I thought we used to roll out maximum of 10 minutes.

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That's the higher ed, yeah.

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Oh, we're at the door at 7.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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2.5.

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associate as I can ask Kim. Mr. Frans, if you could unmute yourself and speak to

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Miss Randall's question about state averages and where those numbers come from that

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room to study?

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There isn't any public state average data, but the national standard for combination

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fire departments, which is what Lake Geneva and Telno-Lin is now, is that in urbanized areas,

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the travel time should be less than four minutes total response time of six minutes.

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And urban areas 10 minutes and then extremely rural remote areas 15 minutes. So when we talk

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about averages that spread out over the entire township. So we we look at it more from a

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fracked out perspective on those different areas rather than because some may say,

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Well, it took 14 minutes to get to my home, not necessarily seven, well, that's because

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it's an average shakes into a count half hour, less half hour greater. So that's why we look at

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that fractal percentage, which right now you are less than eight minutes. I believe is it 80 percent

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where you're looking at chief right now that you're meeting. So it's an excellent. And then that,

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I would tell you is above average in the state,

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because I do a lot of studies and different places

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and for mostly rural area that's excellent.

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Thank you Jeff, liability insurance.

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You guys don't need to sit for the city employees

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or under, they would be under their HR surgery.

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So it's depending on our rig versus, if it's the city, okay, so that just isn't, are we on the book for?

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I'll quit my ownership.

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The way it sounds, we're still on it and we're going to another rig comment.

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Do we have a mini pumper?

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And then the ambulance, the new ambulance should be here.

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So we have a mini pumper.

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And then the ambulance should be here.

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So we have both rigs.

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Okay.

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That's already ordered.

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What a lot of guys, and when I retired, we were trying to do it just tricks around more

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townies.

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And either our job is anybody even talked, I know I talked to Jamie and he'd raise them

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and he was, they're kind of starting to talk that way, because everybody's in the same boat.

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Yes, in all the problems, it's a lot of play and a lot of play and a lot of play and a lot

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of play and a lot of play and a lot of play and a lot of play and a lot of play and a lot of play and

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Okay, so it's that experiment.

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You also.

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I couldn't even want to go over there.

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So no, that's what.

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If we could do a one year term and if that's going to be an option, that would be the best

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not future.

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I would not say it in the near future.

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Okay.

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Oh, okay.

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Call 9 350.

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That's just rescue.

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is that that will not stop now is that that mutual aid to what what do we really roll out as

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what last year was three we've been in a three hundred but I mean that's mutual aid we're

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hadn't for to know a city and that kind of stuff too right yeah

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Okay, district's two nuances.

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Nor sure costs.

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We all said that contract converges that year.

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So right now we don't pay anything right now.

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So the intent was that once we had a full longer term agreement that we would come to a rate for that.

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So that's included in that $1.9 million.

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Just me being my background, I could see someone's got to approach the Wisconsin legislators, try getting it in the districts, but

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Because Illinois had it for years district.

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I don't know how you do it, but I do that.

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Maintenance and stuff to date and come from that.

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Do you guys are still paid for maintenance and all that?

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We are right.

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So we pay for the natives of the government.

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into the service. I had almost, how much will it deal can we give it to

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Lake Geneva and let them have our sub-stations kind of thing out here.

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That was thought of, you know, we're in the infancy of this relationship.

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If for some reason, it doesn't go well. Now you gave up all your equipment.

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That's not a good position to be in. Maybe down the line, those would change.

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see if that's what I'm hoping you guys the same that don't deal.

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Okay, you know, do it this year and try find the stuff.

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Think baby steps.

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Okay, thank you.

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You're welcome.

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My name is Andre Gives.

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I live at W4075 Elgin Club Drive.

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So I'm also on the North Shore.

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And I think this has probably been answered.

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But I wanted to try and understand it a little bit better.

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A couple of questions, we had a one-year contract previously and now we want to extend this longer.

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How long a time is there a, is it a bounded time or will it just go until we decide, is it, is it, is it a five-year contract?

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Is it a ten-year contract? How long does it, is it a permanent partnership? How does it, how do we work that?

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We're currently in a one-year agreement with them for 2024, okay, for 2024, 7, 3, 6, 5 coverage.

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Okay. We had pretty good ones where they did part-time as Mr. Hurley said the 7 a.m. the 5 p.m.

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We are still in the negotiation stage with the city of Lake Geneva,

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but we are looking at most likely a long-term agreement, whether it be 15-year or 20-year.

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However, there would be an out-class on both sides should something happen, but it would probably be a

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24 to 36 month out-class because

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You know on each side, there's gonna take time. Ladies and gentlemen, what have to roll back their staffing?

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We'd have to roll our staffing and develop a department. So there will be an out-class and there will also be some caveats in there to re-negotiate if things change dramatically

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to call level volumes, development, et cetera.

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That's what I was wondering if it was a,

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if it was a 10 to 15 year contract, would there be

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a renegotiation? So you could say, okay, you know.

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So you could take a look at the costs and modify up or down as you needed to. Okay. So the, you mentioned the 489 per household, if there was a $1.7 million value on that household, is that 489 designated out in the tax bill or is that in addition to the tax bill that will be levied on the new values.

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So, that would be looking at for the Lynn portion on your tax bill, what portion of it is going towards firing and staffing, if that was the value.

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Okay. So that's what you're asking that the 489 is that will be the representative number more or less in the tax bill you'll see fire EMS or 89.

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I won't be a separate item, it'll be included in the link portion.

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Okay, so the group down there, and one of the things to keep in mind too is that one

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year agreement part of that's already included in your tax bill, so it's not like you're

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just jumping from $1.9 million from this year to next year, if we have $1.5 million in

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there.

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But there are some other capital expenses that we reviewed that will be in the proposed

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budget and that including the Vinnie Comber or the building modifications, there's some

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equipment for units services as well as other infrastructure costs. So that's where that total

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estimate is an 18% increase for that value all year over year. And that's that's the 489 number

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correct. So it's a little bit because we're talking the total level. But if you look at the 489 number

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yes, that would be 18%. Okay. And then you used to term I was unfamiliar with. It was um volunteer

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on call. In other words, I was president at President at an accident on the North Shore, and

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the fire came, fire trucks came, and I'm not sure if they were Lake Geneva, they might have

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been L-Corn, but later on a bill was issued as well. Does that also mean that you get a bill

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in addition to the part of taking part of that budget within the tax.

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So you would get our just for services.

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Okay.

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So it does exist.

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And it's help offset taxes so that there's some balance there between the two.

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So we do have these for services based on the level of services provided.

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Okay.

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So if a fire truck shows up or and or EMS is there a is at $500 that do we know what that charge

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is per call. We have a fee schedule that you could look at to see the numbers themselves.

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Okay. Is that on the web?

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I don't have them all my members in my house.

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No, it's put up. So we have a on the website or full of manual.

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It's on the website.

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What they could do is on our fire,

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you miss landing page,

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include a link to it so that you can see what those fees are.

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Okay. So you'll get a general idea of what that would be per call.

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Okay.

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And keep in mind, you know, right now, with or without, you know, going to, um, the this increased cost,

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there's still are those fees right now. That's not going to change to go hand and hand that that's been in place already.

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As that has that been in place for a long time, or I think a lot, I was, I was only surprised because I had never been to,

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I've never been, I was part of my taxes, and so when I got an additional charge, I was surprised by that, and I didn't, I didn't know that it was exterior of tax payments. Has that existed for a while then?

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And as long as I've been here, I know that we reviewed these probably five or seven.

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Is that okay?

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I did not know that.

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There is, you know, if you think about it, we get a lot of calls and services that are for people who don't live in the town they'll live.

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So therefore, you know, if we didn't have that fee, now we would all, all the taxpayers would be supplementing all of the calls for the people that are from outside the taxing body itself.

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we felt this was the fairest way to do it to recoup some of those

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classes as well. Okay, just try to understand. Nope, just try and go

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slide. All right, great. And then the meeting on the 7th, that is when people will

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call and go on this discussion. That will be in-person only town

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electors, some meeting residents. Well that is fire station. That will be here. Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else? This is Tim Franz from PA. Did I just add something regarding those fees to clarify is that the majority of those fees that are charged are for emergency medical services, which are build to health insurance, Medicare Medicaid, whatever the particular patient has. So that's standard practice and all departments when it comes to things like vehicle accidents.

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If the departments that charge a fee for the actual response to that at times, that is also potentially something that can be passed on to that person's insurance company.

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So just wanted to clarify that. Most of those fees that are charged by the department are things that are otherwise paid for by insurance.

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Thank you, Chair.

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I think I saw a stand over here.

432
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,180
I think we all were a little shocked when we got our students out.

433
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:55,000
And you said it's that we just received a bunch and some papers.

434
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,660
A lot of the facts, you're developing it, you know,

435
00:36:00,660 --> 00:36:02,680
of substantial increase in net.

436
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:08,860
What do you do to know rate doing with that bonus of 10% more

437
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,020
taxable money on our property?

438
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,760
Number one, when you have a real assessment,

439
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,120
but let's just say we're not here doing this

440
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,760
by your hand, that's right now, okay?

441
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,440
Let's just say we had total taxes of $2 million

442
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,080
last year, I'm just going to use that number.

443
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:35,700
Total taxes were $2 million. If we didn't ask for any money for fire, MS, and we didn't

444
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:41,680
talk about net new construction, our taxes would still be $2 million this year. Because

445
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:49,540
your assessment went up 50% 60%, 70%, all it does is it adjusts the mill rate based upon

446
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:56,940
that level of taxes. That doesn't mean that we got a 70% tax increase because the assess

447
00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:04,000
value went up by 70%. What it does is somebody's assess value went up by 50%. Bell share

448
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:11,200
and lesser amount of taxes than they did last year. If you went up by above 70% 100% you would

449
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:18,540
pay a larger share. But that $2 million is now split amongst that higher assess valuation.

450
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,200
It doesn't give us a win fall of 70%. Taxes are flat.

451
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:29,200
I understand that, but it will have a standard increase of...

452
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,120
No,

453
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,460
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

454
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:42,660
Yeah, our new construction is pretty minimal. I think like 2025, thousands of over the year.

455
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,960
Exact, exact. Exact. Exact. Exact.

456
00:37:46,340 --> 00:37:55,840
Well, I guess I'm confused because if you have more to do with degree of check, than I said.

457
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:04,840
$2,000, whatever, you are, that is not, whatever we pay my attention, it's going to go out,

458
00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:05,940
$3% to $1,000.

459
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,800
No, it is not.

460
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:16,260
No, I just explained that, that the piece, before our tax, our total assessment evaluation was

461
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:21,200
one about $2.4 billion, $2.5, the current year, and then it's going up to $3,000.

462
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:23,760
Now, what's going up to about $3.6 billion?

463
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:34,200
Your $2 million is split by that number, so in essence the mill rate would go down and the tax amount would stay the same.

464
00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:40,140
We got a lot going on this year because of the asking for the fiery MS money.

465
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:49,980
But in a normal reassessment year, other than net new construction, if all you did was your tax amount that's there, it would be flat.

466
00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:56,060
your taxes might go up more or they might go down because if the average increase is 70%,

467
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:03,340
your house might be less than 70%, it might be greater than 70%. If you nailed right at 70%,

468
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:11,020
your taxes would be basically flat. If you're at less than 70%, you may share in less than

469
00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:15,560
a tax burden. If you're greater than 70%, you'd share an a larger tax burden.

470
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,560
But we did not receive a windball of 70 percent because of the reassessment.

471
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:29,320
Your taxes will most likely go up approximately 18 percent.

472
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Okay, see on that I have another question.

473
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:38,700
The one you're agreeing with is that you have a 1.4 million dollar, 1.5 million.

474
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,060
1.5 million.

475
00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:51,520
And is there, and I understand that you are looking at additional services by doing this kind of nation?

476
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,180
So they can send to, um,

477
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,560
Prologue of what you're seeing as maybe like you.

478
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,260
It's not, it's just that I don't know, maybe they want more.

479
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:03,120
They want more.

480
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,820
But I've been through, um, I don't know who else like to be a partner with, um,

481
00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:13,340
I think we're dealing with the challenging, most people.

482
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,100
Are all of these being a higher part than seven,

483
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:20,780
saying problems and who, I mean,

484
00:40:20,860 --> 00:40:24,740
it's interesting that we're becoming the goal to them

485
00:40:24,740 --> 00:40:27,200
widening out a lot.

486
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,040
I mean, the spread of them that, you know,

487
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,260
or that, I'm going to get to talk with you these for this.

488
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,320
The city does have a kind of with the counter Geneva,

489
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,180
where they provide some much alike.

490
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:39,540
we'll be seeing on the North Shore.

491
00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:44,120
But this is the one contract that they have with the town.

492
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:46,560
Is there chief of emergency, anything?

493
00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:55,020
So, be provided services for the town in Geneva

494
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,340
only about a quarter of the town in Geneva.

495
00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:00,460
That's a whole entire town in Geneva.

496
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,000
City of Elcoran provides the rest of the service

497
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,940
with the town in Geneva.

498
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,560
Our contracts are based upon a moan of call

499
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,240
for service based on data, that's how they're charged.

500
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,300
So, that's how that works out.

501
00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:18,480
We do not supply service to the problems you.

502
00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:21,060
And can we provide that service?

503
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,460
Yes, we provide that service.

504
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,600
Now, we continue to supply that service.

505
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,280
So, we have the ability to do that.

506
00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:29,340
Did that answer it?

507
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:30,380
Okay. Thank you.

508
00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:33,380
So, our question is still.

509
00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:48,640
And then they'll add some of the 5,5,6 students

510
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,580
want me to grow it.

511
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,040
And I just said a couple of months

512
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,560
into the various groups.

513
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Go ahead.

514
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:59,120
And then there's a nine on the fire department.

515
00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:03,820
And sometimes, again, there was too many,

516
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:07,820
and sometimes 40 is enough for a person out.

517
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,520
And one thing, with three people in the fire house,

518
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:21,200
Do you want to leave a wall with tree drops? Do you need to take an entrance?

519
00:42:22,060 --> 00:42:24,240
Then you need to take your clothes off your fire towel?

520
00:42:24,980 --> 00:42:25,000
Yeah.

521
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,040
And the ambulance goes out of the room.

522
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:30,280
If her ambulance goes out of the place?

523
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,740
They take the pick up and the ambulance so that if they only need a fair bag,

524
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680
it all depends what the call requires at the time.

525
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,300
But sometimes there are multiple calls,

526
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,100
but it's a bit of already depleted the personnel

527
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,960
at 1.35 or 5.30.

528
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,380
It's going to take through three times that long,

529
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,580
but the next one to actually reach the same

530
00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:55,720
or the same as seeing the whole of that work.

531
00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:58,960
So I'm just wondering what the backup personnel

532
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,280
that might be,

533
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,760
including in when you get it all.

534
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:07,300
So we work with that.

535
00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:12,340
work with our mutual aid partners just like we always have quite frankly just like I said earlier

536
00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:19,640
we're all feeling the similar issues that the tunnel then is right so throughout our county

537
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:25,220
if you look at this this is there's a lot of folks partnering together and that's why is because

538
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:34,120
the challenge for for the paedum call staff so we we a fire I'll take a fire for instance right

539
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,740
We use the Mavis system quite a bit for that, and that's why we have automatic aid coming in on a fire now.

540
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:45,480
It's much different than it was before. Before one single department would be toned out for a working fire.

541
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:52,600
Now we have actually four departments are fine just for that reason. We also use change of quarters to come in and

542
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,560
backfill our stations and we backfill both stations automatically just for that reason.

543
00:43:58,500 --> 00:43:58,960
Does that?

544
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,800
Can I say a bit of words?

545
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,300
If you hadn't been invited to the discussion about that, it was just one of them.

546
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:06,580
Any other questions?

547
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Thank you.

548
00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,000
Thank you, Dale.

549
00:44:11,140 --> 00:44:11,820
Other questions?

550
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,200
Yes, sir.

551
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,640
I'm

552
00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:28,590
going to turn on Amazon, I'm going to have an M1 course, six days of roll from

553
00:44:28,590 --> 00:44:29,850
home in Lake Phoenix.

554
00:44:31,290 --> 00:44:31,390
Yes.

555
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:34,690
I'd like to present my remarks with this.

556
00:44:35,090 --> 00:44:39,950
I'm going to like to log rather than the town, my father started, then started my apartment

557
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:45,590
because I'm 55 years out of the oven for almost one a year, so I know a little bit

558
00:44:45,590 --> 00:44:46,610
of what's going on.

559
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:48,630
I'm all for everything you're doing.

560
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:54,570
So I mean, I've read the studying point, and the name of it has to be shown to me,

561
00:44:54,830 --> 00:44:57,610
to answer a lot of their questions right off the back.

562
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:59,970
Having said that, one question.

563
00:45:00,270 --> 00:45:06,630
This is the line item on the backfill, like the garbage bill, bill, and the speech bill.

564
00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:14,990
begin play.

565
00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:16,750
by your anti-trail.

566
00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:17,090
All right.

567
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:18,050
I'm going to DM that.

568
00:45:18,850 --> 00:45:21,510
I'm going to say, how many are on the paid off

569
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:23,370
or role here?

570
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:27,450
WU is somebody else.

571
00:45:28,990 --> 00:45:29,890
Thank you.

572
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:31,990
Second.

573
00:45:34,750 --> 00:45:37,470
I'm trying to go along with the,

574
00:45:37,470 --> 00:45:38,650
I'm trying to,

575
00:45:39,830 --> 00:45:42,230
but I can see where we have to wait a little while

576
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:43,010
on the make work,

577
00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:45,750
but I think in the long run,

578
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:52,050
We'd be better off or we just contract with Lake Geneva, and we just have to hold

579
00:45:52,050 --> 00:45:58,090
the equipment and maintain them, and I think it's work better for them.

580
00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:03,410
They have all the equipment and they can have the firehouse, we get some kind of

581
00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:06,650
Uberation and draw that to treat any equipment or equipment.

582
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:11,550
I'd really like that to a little bit down the road, but that's something I like to see at

583
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:12,050
them.

584
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:16,570
And while we're at it, I don't think we haven't even been able to use the fire mode anymore.

585
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:19,550
That's a big expense that we don't need.

586
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:21,510
That's the health of our situation.

587
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:24,950
Where is this part of the game for the late Geneva services?

588
00:46:26,590 --> 00:46:28,510
There's a lot of things that we've been doing all the time.

589
00:46:29,070 --> 00:46:31,630
We've got to work outside the box.

590
00:46:31,770 --> 00:46:33,030
We've been up to something like that.

591
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:35,010
And it was a method again.

592
00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:35,710
We've got it.

593
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:41,990
But I think that we are required to provide fire protection is where a cell or contract.

594
00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,390
But something to think about, I know what I'd like to hear.

595
00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:48,230
We are required to provide police protection.

596
00:46:48,590 --> 00:46:50,350
That's what I want to know about this year.

597
00:46:51,550 --> 00:46:53,570
So we can have the county take over some of that.

598
00:46:53,870 --> 00:46:56,070
That's like a burden for the fire protection.

599
00:46:56,350 --> 00:46:58,510
This is a fire EMS meeting Mr. Paul.

600
00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:02,970
This is a fire EMS meeting Mr. Baleak.

601
00:47:06,330 --> 00:47:11,970
But going back to the equipment, we did discuss that as we were going through negotiations

602
00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:22,030
and we objectively and conscientiously opted to maintain our equipment at this point in time due

603
00:47:22,030 --> 00:47:27,530
to what being in the infancy of the relationship that might be one thing that could change

604
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:29,570
and be renegotiated down the line.

605
00:47:29,570 --> 00:47:34,690
But we want to get to know each other as we're going through and we're putting this together.

606
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:35,650
I agree with that.

607
00:47:36,090 --> 00:47:37,770
But the thing is going to keep in mind.

608
00:47:38,570 --> 00:47:40,150
I see the talk about the many poverty.

609
00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:45,850
The rest of our budget should be good enough if we can buy for two or three years or not have to buy anything.

610
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:48,270
So the answer is not.

611
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:49,670
We're going to have to do it.

612
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:50,050
Understood.

613
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:50,730
Thank you.

614
00:47:50,890 --> 00:47:51,270
Dear welcome.

615
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,980
Dear the questions in the audience this evening.

616
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:05,100
But time in ourselves pretty well.

617
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:15,100
Okay. I will ask one more time. Are there any additional questions one last time by anybody in the audience before we stop the public comments for this evening?

618
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,420
You have a follow up question. Yeah, please come on up.

619
00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:33,800
the fireball and I really wanted to ask the question about how long you have to use that and

620
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,120
that in the second weeks of our research.

621
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,360
We've used it, I think, of one call.

622
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:46,800
A few of that call, right from the call for Browning.

623
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,360
We've used it for one fireball.

624
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,220
It's a tool and tool box, though.

625
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,140
So today we really need it to work out for it.

626
00:49:00,950 --> 00:49:01,590
So

627
00:49:06,460 --> 00:49:26,940
originally, in a previous study, that was commissioned by the board, that fireboat was looked at and put into place before I was involved, but I read the study, and it was put in because of the challenges that are in place with some of the drive leads.

628
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:32,360
And some of the, and you grasp and ingress to some of the, some of the,

629
00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:37,680
what is going into play.

630
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,480
It doesn't have a use.

631
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,980
I know I've been on the first thing that I have two players that is on that.

632
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:46,640
And then very used.

633
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,500
So they have a kind of use.

634
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:51,560
That's why there's been a conversation that you've heard about this.

635
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:57,800
Many of them, that Mr. Brahms put together the study that talks about the many of them.

636
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,840
about how many of them are able to, again,

637
00:50:00,140 --> 00:50:03,540
for an address to A-U, and for a product,

638
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:06,580
because we have some challenges for the product,

639
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:07,480
but for a fleet.

640
00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:10,960
So, another way to accomplish that is getting

641
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,660
this smaller vehicle to get income strides.

642
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,420
So, if I don't know what that is,

643
00:50:15,980 --> 00:50:17,580
it has a bit for it.

644
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:20,780
It's just one of those,

645
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,640
and I kind of worked with a great job

646
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,500
and we have a chance to use it as a study data.

647
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,120
So, I hope it ends soon.

648
00:50:28,580 --> 00:50:29,320
It won't.

649
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,500
We do use it though.

650
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,660
So, especially if it's drowning, it's more correct.

651
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,240
I don't know that.

652
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,300
I have an analogy on it.

653
00:50:36,340 --> 00:50:38,440
We'll move there and so on and out.

654
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:39,400
It's like that.

655
00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:40,120
We're tied.

656
00:50:40,820 --> 00:50:42,720
Well, so thank you for bringing that off.

657
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:43,640
Okay.

658
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,440
Time is over.

659
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:46,140
All right.

660
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:47,460
Thank you, thank you.

661
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,260
Thank you for the additional questions.

662
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:57,280
Sorry.

663
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,940
Calm down.

664
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,040
And we'll continue to play a five-home short.

665
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:10,840
So 1.9 million residents who have some capital measures, are those only one year and might it be reduced to 1.2 years?

666
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,180
They're separate.

667
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:21,070
So the 1.9 covers the North Shore staffing under a station plus management, including our overall tax money for the upcoming year,

668
00:51:21,780 --> 00:51:28,020
includes additional capital expenses and those being the mini-pumper, the building, and then some of the equipment.

669
00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:31,160
But those will be urgent.

670
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:31,940
Correct.

671
00:51:32,580 --> 00:51:36,460
There could be other capital items of course, but out there is no, no.

672
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,800
But there could be other capital one time expenses, and we did speak to, there could be

673
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,280
more opportunities as this relationship continues to grow to share equipment, where we

674
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,960
could reduce some of those capital costs.

675
00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:51,240
But the 1.9 is really the staffing piece that we're requesting for our food.

676
00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:52,460
Sure.

677
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,500
Thank you.

678
00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:56,800
Yes, sir.

679
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:58,020
Come on up.

680
00:52:05,060 --> 00:52:08,500
deeper than in 1995, semi-sign.

681
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,860
Some like this, you probably have, I know, nothing.

682
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,600
How fire is burning, I'm supporting the support.

683
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,900
And I just want to declare a fire.

684
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,360
This is primarily a medical emergency response issue.

685
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:28,820
It is not a, it is not a fire-fighter issue.

686
00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:54,480
So this is a setting up all hazard departments. So the three folks that are in the firehouse that will be staffing the station on this side of the lake are duly and roll certified to go to fires as well as emergency medical calls.

687
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:05,170
The call is a part of employment, their job is to notify the volunteer environment.

688
00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:10,770
No, they will respond to the call and then to pay down call or the part-time folks that are still

689
00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:11,370
under the department.

690
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:26,680
So typically, if there's a fire, there's no concern that there would be a lack of a fire of fire.

691
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:52,290
And I mean, that's, that's, the biggest concern in your impact is the response, but it's like we talked about earlier, we talked earlier at that, the fear is that fire doubled every 30 seconds, right? So, I'm just wondering where we get that, but for people who are on the street where we do those things, we want to get as many people there as we can, that's bad.

692
00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:59,270
So there are no problems here to respond.

693
00:53:59,930 --> 00:54:04,070
No, that's why we went to this model and started out with three people to address the

694
00:54:04,070 --> 00:54:08,570
issue because Chief Jones was struggling with the PIN on Hall of Fame.

695
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:11,690
He was down at three people, but we might not know.

696
00:54:12,010 --> 00:54:19,070
Well, what we would do is rely upon Davis Mutual Aid, Fox Service, which is basically, right

697
00:54:19,070 --> 00:54:26,310
even before we got in the relationship with Lake Geneva. When Lynn would go up it's a big fire.

698
00:54:26,570 --> 00:54:31,070
We don't have enough people. We call them from Fontano, Williams Bay, Lake Geneva,

699
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:36,770
Elcorne Bloomfield to come on in and we do the same thing to help those neighborhoods.

700
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:43,950
We just get our initial crew there and then you have to call in reinforcement through the Davis system.

701
00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:49,790
So, as a goodist, there are just a lot of lots of volunteers and some of the guys to be at it.

702
00:54:50,250 --> 00:54:52,290
Yeah, so there's no boss in business.

703
00:54:52,990 --> 00:54:56,730
There's hard to find anyone to knock on the door to bring in.

704
00:54:59,200 --> 00:54:59,700
Sorry, sorry.

705
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:06,600
So, this community is the age of the living community, is older than nobody wants to come and do this now.

706
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:11,280
Thank you.

707
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,680
Thank you.

708
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,100
Thank you all for your service.

709
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:14,920
Thank you.

710
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:16,200
Thank you for the questions.

711
00:55:19,110 --> 00:55:25,570
One last time, any additional questions from anybody here in the town hall audience

712
00:55:25,570 --> 00:55:26,510
deceiving?

713
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:30,170
All right.

714
00:55:30,290 --> 00:55:37,490
Then I will ask, we have a couple of people that are on virtually do any of you have

715
00:55:37,490 --> 00:55:43,650
a question that you would like to ask today of so please raise your hand.

716
00:55:50,060 --> 00:55:55,560
Being done, I guess I will look to our other board members, anything that either more

717
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,400
in Zimmerman or Alex Tomer would like to add for this evening.

718
00:56:01,610 --> 00:56:01,870
Okay.

719
00:56:02,330 --> 00:56:02,390
No.

720
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:09,290
Well, then I'd like to thank everybody for their attendance this evening.

721
00:56:09,350 --> 00:56:12,910
I'd like to thank Mr. Franz for this comments in.

722
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:14,650
But we appreciate it very much to them.

723
00:56:14,770 --> 00:56:21,490
And for the program that you put together from PAA, the study to help us.

724
00:56:22,030 --> 00:56:23,430
Chief Jones, Chief Peters.

725
00:56:23,730 --> 00:56:25,610
Thank you very much for enlightening us.

726
00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:38,190
everybody, thank you for your comments and questions. We appreciate you being here and we look forward to having all of you join us on October 7th at 11 p.m. here in the town wall.

727
00:56:38,610 --> 00:56:50,010
Please be advised that for that meeting, if you need to be in person to be able to vote, you won't be able to vote via zoom or electronic.

728
00:56:50,010 --> 00:56:59,490
And the voting will be limited to electors, meeting people who are registered to vote in the town of Lynn.

729
00:57:01,250 --> 00:57:02,630
Say that one more time?

730
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:08,690
I'll vote on I need to still be required to abstain and so you're voting on the election day.

731
00:57:10,290 --> 00:57:18,970
So, yes, who's one of that part of this part of the meeting code, is it really even necessary in the board of power to do this?

732
00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:21,590
Is that going to be up to the people?

733
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:25,390
Yes, it is necessary.

734
00:57:26,190 --> 00:57:31,750
So, the town of lectures have to approve the levee increase by the Department of Revenueston.

735
00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:35,580
Okay.

736
00:57:35,580 --> 00:57:41,400
For the level you increase that needs to go to the electors, yeah, because we're exceeding the

737
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,800
a lot of all

738
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,260
Yeah, for not to contract know sir

739
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,540
Any other questions

740
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,920
And at this point in time I'd like to ask

741
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,380
Yes.

742
00:57:59,860 --> 00:58:03,220
Please, I'd like to be a registered board.

743
00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:05,440
Please, I'd like to be a registered board.

744
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,540
Please, I'd like to be a retired year 20 days executive 2, October 5,

745
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:17,800
you've done show or I mean, so all of the stage required in and order to follow

746
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,720
your performance.

747
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:21,460
So, all right.

748
00:58:22,420 --> 00:58:26,460
be enough to have motion to adjourn and move to adjourn.

749
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:30,500
Second, fall in favor of adjournment with the night.

750
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,180
Aye. Any opposed?

751
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:33,040
We are adjourn.