1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:34,470 our monitors on. Good. Um, we are going to call to order September 2nd, 2026. Park board meeting. We’ll start from my left. Thank you. Morgan Clark Gooder Pat Huelman. Yeah. And we have Kelly missing and Julie missing tonight. So we will stand and do Pledge of Allegiance. Please. 2 00:00:34,470 --> 00:01:08,700 To the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And nobody in the audience. So we will move from the public comment to, uh, setting the agenda. Any additional deletions to the agenda items that you had. Okay. 3 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:30,300 And then we are going back in time to March 4th, 2026 to approve our minutes. Uh, if you recall, that was, uh, one with, I think Pat Maher came to talk about, uh, sunrise and possible addition of another field there, as well as, uh, Pheasants Hill playground equipment. 4 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:58,230 If you’ve been able to look that over any additions or any motions to approve March 4th. I may. I make a motion to approve the March 4th minutes. And and I think on March 4th, the only member that was absent. Okay. So sustained there. Um, so Pat has a motion to approve the minutes for March 4th. Second. Second. 5 00:01:58,230 --> 00:02:30,970 All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed and one. Abstain. All right. And so we’re moving on to item number six, action items. Um, or was there anything before we we do that, Rick, in regards to just Sunset Park, any anything from that or anybody have any questions or concerns? Uh, there. 6 00:02:30,970 --> 00:02:53,800 Was a speaking of open mike, there was some discussion with city staff and residents in the Sunset Oaks area. We had removed that playground equipment, uh, a couple of weeks ago. Um, they were intending to show up tonight to, um, provide some comments on, uh, replacing the playground equipment at Sunset Oaks Park. 7 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:11,700 Um, apparently they had some other conflicts going on, so they we did receive three emails from folks regarding the Sunset Oaks playground equipment. Um, we’ve made copies and placed them in front of you. So you can certainly take a look at that. 8 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:30,630 And, um, they were aware that we will be placing or discussing the 2027 goals for, for next year. And certainly they’re in favor of having some consideration for, uh, installing new playground equipment at Sunset Oaks Park for next year. 9 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:48,570 And just for reference, Sunrise Oaks, for those that may not know, is north of, uh, the middle school, correct? Uh, Sunset Oaks is north of lilac, over on the west side of town. Um, just on the other side of of lilac. They’re on the south side, and James Park is on the north side. And I think as you get time before they even say winter hits. 10 00:03:48,570 --> 00:04:09,070 But over these next few months, it’s important to just go out and look at some of these parks, because, uh, some of them are able to be revived and some of them are just not something that probably we’d want to, to spend a lot of money or time in regards to, especially as we build up some of these other parks that are around that area. 11 00:04:09,070 --> 00:04:27,530 Any other thoughts on Sunset Oaks? Yeah, as far as Sunset Oaks, I think we visited that and it clearly has been in rough shape and semi usable. But they’re, you know, getting to the point where their safety concerns and other issues. 12 00:04:27,530 --> 00:04:44,630 Um, and it’s also been a park that we talked about whether we can afford to maintain, um, and so I think I’ll just kind of leave the rest for, you know, kind of our discussion of our park goals. 13 00:04:44,630 --> 00:05:11,270 But, uh, you know, I think we’re going to have to revisit it in one way or the other and just decide how it fits in our bigger, uh, park goals. Any other action items? Before we get on to the discussion items, which is to discuss our 2027 Park board goals. I don’t see old business or new business here, but maybe it’d be just a quick update. Have we heard anything further from Pat Mauer and Lee uh, Association about the ball field project. 14 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:37,630 That is no longer viable. No longer viable? Correct. All right. We will. Then let’s see. Is there any. I’m just looking through this quick to see if there was anything else. Action. And before we get to our 2027 park goals, I don’t see anything. 15 00:05:37,630 --> 00:06:01,400 So with that, we’ll kind of move on to our 2027 park board goals. Um, just as far as parks and having what we believe to be 90,000, is that correct? We’re. Yeah. I can provide you some information here. So it is time for the park board to begin discussing potential 2027 project goals for the City Council consideration. 16 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:21,930 Just to refresh your memory, back in 2025, we replaced the playground equipment at James Park, and we were scheduled to replace the equipment at Shenandoah Park, but we delayed that a year to due to stormwater project that actually the Shenandoah Park playground equipment scheduled to be installed the week of September 14th. So that’s coming up here pretty quick. 17 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:45,670 And then for this year, 2026, we replaced the playground equipment at Pheasant Hills Park. Uh, some information regarding the financial condition of the park control fund. The city council has met twice so far to discuss the 2027 budgets, with additional meetings scheduled. 18 00:06:45,670 --> 00:07:10,130 Currently, there is $252,000 designated for park and trail improvements. This represents a 40% increase from the adopted 2026 amount of $180,000. Obviously, this is subject to change up to when the 2027 final budget is adopted in December of 2026. Since 2018, the Park Board has focused their efforts on replacing aged playground equipment throughout the park system. Attaches an updated summary of our playground equipment inventory. 19 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:26,330 As you can see, just a quick summary. We still have five structures that were built throughout our park system with playgrounds that were built in the 1990s. 20 00:07:26,330 --> 00:07:45,170 Um, City Hall Park obviously was demolished with the uh Public Works Facility project, so that one will be obviously replaced at some point in the future when we remaster plan that park area and then Highland Meadows Park. That one was installed in 2003. So you can see we’ve been spending pretty much total focus on replacing the, uh, aged playground equipment since 2018. So that’s kind of where we’re at. 21 00:07:45,170 --> 00:08:10,170 That’s just for informational purposes. Park may have some other ideas, some other park projects. Trail projects. Uh, what what have you, but I thought it would at least, um, provide that information for you to start the discussion. Thank you for that. So, um, possibly some significant funds we won’t know until maybe closer to December. 22 00:08:10,170 --> 00:08:24,530 Um, but that gives us an opportunity to kind of look at items for parks or even trails, because we have not discussed a lot about trails. Uh, one of the reasons is just because of the expense of some of the trails, I would imagine. 23 00:08:24,530 --> 00:08:51,630 But looking at parks, um, and what we might want to do in 2027. So I’ll open it up to anybody that would like to speak. Um, one thing I wanted to mention is Marshawn and Wenzel being the highest number of homes between those two, and both being built in the 90s and closest to each other. 24 00:08:51,630 --> 00:09:23,530 I think considering one of those would satisfy a lot of homes within a half a mile and. Um, I mean, not that one is better than the other, but, you know, having two 1990s built parks as your options is is not the greatest. Sorry about that. Um, yeah. I can make some general comments. 25 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:42,170 I would agree that that’s certainly an area where some investment could easily be justified based on numbers and age. So I think if we kind of look back where we were when funds were considerably tighter than they are right now, and this particular scenario, we just realized we couldn’t carry 26 00:09:42,170 --> 00:10:02,330 as many parks as we had built out. And we’ve been trying to avoid adding any new small parks because it’s just so much fun to take care of them, but also to replace them when that time comes to pass. 27 00:10:02,330 --> 00:10:20,830 So there have been comments about, for instance, Sunset Oaks is probably a park that maybe would be cut back. And because there are adjacent parks, because we, you know, it’s just one more park that we can’t didn’t have funds to replace. Um, Wenzel was also discussed in that light, small part. It has a nearby park that could be used. 28 00:10:20,830 --> 00:10:37,470 Although I appreciate you have to get over the road. Um, and so it was another one that we were kind of looking at is, you know, if we have to pare down and squeeze a little bit to justify putting the right amount of money in some of these other parks or putting in 29 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:53,270 park, um, items that are far more expensive than our traditional park. I mean, people are having a lot higher expectations about what should be in a park. And if we’re going to take some of our parks and step them up a notch or two, that’s a lot of that’s a lot of money. 30 00:10:53,270 --> 00:11:11,070 So I think I just all I’m saying is I just want to kind of keep that context in our back of our mind as we think about our goal, our goal, short term goals. 31 00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:28,900 How are we putting in threading those together with our long term objective here of, I think, moving to fewer parks, some parks that are bigger and serving a more a wider community need and wider community range of activities. Um, and so, for instance, you know, we’ve got country like parks sits there and that that could be a beautiful park could provide things that we don’t have in some of our other parks. For instance, Tower Park. 32 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:45,600 We’ve got plans there that would expand that park a bit. So all I want to suggest here is that we kind of are thinking about that broader picture as we move forward. Um, I am all for Marchand Park. I think it’s due. It has been due for several years. 33 00:11:45,600 --> 00:12:04,300 Um, but I certainly would hate to move ahead with a new master plan for that park with that building sitting right there. And so if there’s a way we can either build a master plan that works with the building and without the building in the future, I’d say that that’s a that’s a good candidate. 34 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:22,400 Also, you know, I certainly see where we want to replace something up near City Hall Park when that time approaches us. But I think I don’t know, but I just given the construction there and other things are going to kind of fall out with time. 35 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:41,300 I don’t think we’re going to be investing in that park next year at least. So that was kind of my general thoughts. And then, as Clark mentioned, we’ve always had to avoid big things because we just didn’t have big money. And if there are big things, trails are always expensive. 36 00:12:41,300 --> 00:13:02,830 And if there’s important trails that we need to replace, repair or add in, I think this might be an opportunity to look at those, um, if we want to put something pretty significant somewhere like tower, perhaps, uh, this is an opportunity to do that. So, uh, I’m certainly thankful that council for stepping up there and, uh, we’re going to do our best to make maximum use of those dollars. 37 00:13:02,830 --> 00:13:23,530 Well, and to that point, Rick, if we were to do Marchand, I mean, we’re talking not only the A called a shed, but it’s a building. But parking also probably would need to be done. 38 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:37,400 Um, and I don’t know if that’s if that’s a more so, uh, two year type of plan than it would be a one year type of plan. Rather than just saying, let’s update the park and leave the building there, I think is foolish. We’d want to do something that would open it. So you can see that park from the street, um, and have a little bit more parking, I would imagine. 39 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:59,970 Yeah. And as I look at Wenzel Farm, I’m a proponent of, I don’t know that Wenzel Farm is something that is feasible. It’s I mean, to put money into it because a block away, you have the school and you have multiple parks, multiple ball fields. 40 00:13:59,970 --> 00:14:12,470 You have, uh, walking tracks, all of that type of stuff. So I don’t know that I’d be to too much in favor of doing anything with Wenzel Park at this time. 41 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:32,430 I would like to see something done at Marchand, but I just don’t know how much you’d have to put into it too, because we’ve talked about a pavilion as well. Right, to to do something there. So it might be looking to your point, Pat, of is there a trail where maybe we have 250,000 to look at a trail and see what we can connect? We’ve always talked about, uh, lilac, right. Yeah. Waiting for the county, I think. Yeah. Well, I. 42 00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:46,770 Think regarding a marchand park, um, that would definitely be a phased approach. Um, I know the park board has talked about replacing that equipment for 4 or 5 years, and we keep on saying, well, we need to figure out what we’re going to do with the building currently. 43 00:14:46,770 --> 00:15:01,900 Right now, that building is being occupied by the Parks Department. Since we no longer have a public works facility, and they’re going to be using that through the end of next year. 44 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:23,770 So the feasibility of even thinking about doing anything with that building not there, um, I agree that it makes sense to to relook at Marchand Park with the master planning process. However, I don’t think because of that, that should necessarily delay further the new playground equipment. I think we could be strategic and where we would put that to keep our options open for future master planning process, with or without the building, a park, shelter and those type of things. 45 00:15:23,770 --> 00:15:48,330 I would say with these, um, six locations that we’re currently looking at, um, replacing, um, Marchand Park is and Highland Meadows Park are clearly the two that are most heavily used. Morning, noon and night. Um, there’s no there’s no comparison. So, um, the the quality of the equipment in Marchand Park. 46 00:15:48,330 --> 00:16:09,730 I mean, it’s we’ve been it should have been under it several years ago. So, um, I don’t think the, uh, not having the so-called final plans in place for Marchand Park shouldn’t necessarily scare you away from considering that for 2027. I do, I do like to comment, too. 47 00:16:09,730 --> 00:16:29,970 I know there’s been a lot of discussion over the years about the state of our park system and whether we can afford it based on available funding, and with the foreseeable funding might be, and whether that means we should take a look at, um, eliminating some parks from our park system. That’s a pretty serious discussion. 48 00:16:29,970 --> 00:16:48,600 And that is something certainly the park would have to have a conversation with the city council. Um, because that’s a big step. Um, I have seen indications if you just look at the available funding over the last several years, I mean, it’s continuing to ratchet up. 49 00:16:48,600 --> 00:17:04,400 That is our plan, that the goal is to eventually get to a $500,000 per year park control fund improvement project projects, which would be a pretty significant funding source, especially when you take a look at what we’ve had over the past several years. So, um, just keep that. So you have to be kind of careful when you’re starting to talk about eliminating parks or no longer maintaining them. 50 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:19,170 Again, I think it’s reality and I don’t I don’t fault you for that. But just to understand, if that’s if that’s the direction of the park board wants to like, officially say, you know what? We’re not we don’t want to consider any more improvements at Park A, Park B and Park C, um, that would require something that we’d want to have a conversation with the 51 00:17:19,170 --> 00:17:35,600 council at a work session. Well, I think it’s. Yeah, it’s important to recognize I think sometimes we say park and we might mean playground. Yeah. Exactly. Right. 52 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:53,070 So, you know, I certainly don’t think we need to give up any of our parks, but we may need to change what happens or how much investment goes into each of those parks. And even the Sunset Oaks. Uh, example here. They said, you know, they’re using it for soccer. They used it for night out, you know, so I would that’s a great opportunity. A very local group can get together and take advantage of that park. That’s wonderful. 53 00:17:53,070 --> 00:18:09,230 And we should maintain that space. How we invest in it is becomes, you know, it’s kind of a second conversation. I, I hate to even say it, but it’s I think the other thing is I think we should be looking at diversity in our parks. 54 00:18:09,230 --> 00:18:25,570 So not only did we end up with a lot of parks, we ended up with a lot of parks that look just like. And so is there a way. 55 00:18:25,570 --> 00:18:45,300 And I think we kind of started that with, um, watermark and a couple other things happening, uh, where we say, well, we can take this one up, up a notch or 2 or 3 because it might serve a broader community need maybe this one’s a little smaller, you know, in a again, I’m just brainstorming here, but maybe we have tot lots, you know, and we put in a very small, small child facility somewhere where there is activity and there’s 56 00:18:45,300 --> 00:19:03,900 people around it and, you know, young families knowing that, well, if they just walk three or 4 or 5 blocks, they can get to a bigger facility like beams, for instance. In this case. So I think that’s that’s just being strategic. And I so that’s saying we need to go that way. 57 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:23,800 But that’s a possibility is that somehow we do support these smaller parks in a very a much smaller way. Without using up our resources. Well, so. So kind of looking at that, Pat, you look at Wenzel Farm, which is a smaller park. Yeah. Compare comparable to some of the others. 58 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:40,430 But as you look at maybe doing Marchand, we’ve talked about a pavilion. And if you have a pavilion you have some open space there. Right. And then you maybe build that park out a little bigger. I’m not saying it’s got to. be I’m not saying square feet, just saying maybe a little bit more amenities within that park. 59 00:19:40,430 --> 00:20:05,300 Um, and spending some dollars there. Just one follow up question. Did we get Lionel Park to where we want it to be? I mean, the shelter was finished and whatever, but were there any other remaining items? So we’re we’re we’re good there. All right. 60 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:22,870 I’m just gonna throw it out there just because I’m the cyclist in the community. But, um, we also don’t have anything remotely close to our city for, like, skills or anything like that when it comes to cycling. 61 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:43,100 And I work a lot with the, um, the youth cycling group that rides the Anoka Parks, the chain of lakes parks right here, and they get in trouble a lot the local kids, because they build skills, things in the woods because there’s just no skills. Parks around here. They don’t I don’t think they’re expensive to build because you can work with Mork, which is a Minnesota mountain biking whatever. And it’s all age friendly. 62 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:59,870 So like you get if you go to Elm Creek and watch, um, their little skills section, you know, you see little two year olds on bikes, you see, you know, 50 year olds who are learning how to handle it. So it’s just a good community event. And then a little more expensive. 63 00:20:59,870 --> 00:21:20,730 But like a pump track drives a lot of interest. The closest one to us is like 44 minutes. Well, about 25 minutes away from here. But, um, you know, it’s just as we think about something different. Um, there’s a lot of playgrounds, but, you know, 65% of people ride bikes now. 64 00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:41,770 So I think just just knowing that what they’re building back there in the woods and, um, there was a there was a whole event in Anoka because they took about eight miles of trail away because of that kind of stuff. 65 00:21:41,770 --> 00:21:57,770 So, you know, just steering them in a, in a more friendly built way instead of them trying to, you know, I grew up in a world where we made our own, but it doesn’t matter. Um, uh, but yeah, just something like that. Maybe something a little different. Also, people have asked about splash pads. I don’t know how everyone feels about that, but I’ve never seen them work out well, so I work in HR. 66 00:21:57,770 --> 00:22:16,630 I’ve heard lots of things with splash pads, but I just have to advocate for the cyclist as all. There’s a lot of great trails. Some are lino, some are, and most of them are Anoka around here. But um, yeah. 67 00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:34,070 Would would tower where I think we’re, you know, if you go past the water tower to the left, there was where they did a lot of early prep work or, you know, I was kind of there, uh, pad for building water tower and, and some of the other activities there. 68 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:47,600 Is there a place there that would be contingent enough and open enough to do something like that? I don’t know what kind of acreage it takes. Um. I’m not sure, but I have talked to Sean Berry, who’s the president at Mauck, and he’s interested in coming to talk to us if and when there’s an opening for it. Because they have funding, they’d be willing to share. 69 00:22:47,600 --> 00:23:06,270 Um, and they, they bring in builders and designers to do a lot. Um, so I think there’s a partnership opportunity there, but I don’t want to, you know, steer in that direction if it’s not something we’re interested in. I think that was the site for the inflatable right. And I assume that projects off the boards. 70 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:21,000 As of right now, there’s nothing firm. Um, when I think of I think that’s a great idea regarding the bike sales and such, when I think of a project like that, I typically think of county run programs, and we’ve got a, what, 2500 acre regional park reserve. 71 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:37,170 Um, so I don’t know if Anoka County is considered it. And I decided not to do it, but, um, if it’s more of a regional draw, given the land that they currently have within the city, that might be worth exploring with the county to see if they have any interest in that. 72 00:23:37,170 --> 00:23:59,170 Yeah, I’ve talked to the Anoka County Park people and wrote granite one email. Um, but they they don’t seem to be moving in the direction of more cycling things. I think, um, they have more funding on the bird watching area, which is why they took some of those trails away. 73 00:23:59,170 --> 00:24:15,970 Um, but I think that, you know, we’ve we’ve brought it to them a handful of times and it’s not moved. Yeah, but if that’s something the park board is interested in pursuing, we can set that up for a future park board meeting. Tower Park would be the the natural one where we actually have some land, uh, to work with. Yeah. 74 00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:31,300 I’d be interested just hearing what what they have to say and what they might have to offer. And again, I have no idea for talking, you know, little bucks or big bucks, but yeah, I mean, it’s certainly there are there we we have trails. We have a lot of people who walk and bike trails. 75 00:24:31,300 --> 00:25:00,630 We probably have people who would like to do more off road stuff and, and building skills, be safer cyclists, stuff like that. That’s, uh, I think it’s worth pursuing. Sure. As far as parks, just anybody else around their neighborhood, parks that you guys frequent or see, I’m more around that. Marchand Wenzel farm. Uh, sunrise type of parks. But anybody else around their own neighborhood park see opportunity. 76 00:25:00,630 --> 00:25:19,870 The only thing for sunrise is I know we’ve, um. I don’t think the CDL thing worked out, but that building, that’s a warming house. I don’t think we do anything with it in the summertime, but there’s a lot of activity at that park, so there may be opportunity to do concessions or something that I 77 00:25:19,870 --> 00:25:35,500 don’t know if we earn back from that or where that funding goes or how that works. Yeah, there’s been a couple youth sports associations that have expressed an interest in providing concessions like they do at Karlek and other places. 78 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:52,300 And, um, I’ve indicated to them more than once that we’re open to have that discussion. Um, at this point, I really wasn’t interested in the city providing the labor and all this other stuff, but if it’s comparable to what they do at their other locations, I was more than willing to work with them to do that same type of arrangement at Sunrise Park. 79 00:25:52,300 --> 00:26:12,700 And for whatever reason, that has not been acted upon yet. But yeah, it was only brought up to me that we had the or, they had the softball like championships over there. And then there wasn’t any thing. So someone was asking me, but I didn’t have the answer. So I directed them here. Yeah. 80 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:26,800 So I’ve not heard yet. Potential moneymaker for for the youth sports groups. That’s for sure. Sure. I just I wonder, do they run tournaments out of sunrise or are they just. They did for the girls softball this year? They did. 81 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:52,630 And I think it was the first year because they had just rebuilt all those dugouts. And did I know that? Yeah. And so, um, they ended up doing like a championship thing there. So. Yeah. Okay. And we are reevaluating our arrangements with these sports groups as far as what permissible uses there will be at the various parks. There were some um, there was some conflicts and some, uh. 82 00:26:52,630 --> 00:27:08,670 Unfortunate situations that happened with that tournament that we were not made aware of prior to the tournament happening. So we had some quite a few neighbors in the area that were rightly so upset. And so so we’re um, we’re really we will be reevaluating that after the first of the year. 83 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:28,070 What, uh, what we’ll be doing with the youth sports groups. I would assume it had to do with the parking. Among other things, boom boxes at 7:00 in the morning. And. Yeah, there’s a lot going on. Yeah, yeah. Disrespectful coaches to staff and the list goes on and on. So but. 84 00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:47,470 Uh, just for input, how does it look for pickleball? I mean, I think we hit it pretty hard, pretty fast. And I think it’s still growing, but are we still meeting the needs or are we having any additional, uh, requests for space or, or or it hasn’t fallen off. In fact. 85 00:27:47,470 --> 00:28:05,130 It hasn’t fallen off. It certainly be great to have more, but I think, um, you know, given the needs, other needs throughout the city, at least we’re satisfying the basic need for pickleball with the courts over at the middle school and ours over at Tower Park. Um. Uh. 86 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:24,130 Some parks, some pickleball courts at the neighborhood park, such as North Point and Watermark and such. Um, I think, you know, I keep on looking back at this playground equipment. I think, um, you know, park boards really made this a priority. And it’s essentially almost without exception to what we’ve done since 2018. 87 00:28:24,130 --> 00:28:46,470 And I can see this list dwindling. Um, based on the projected funding for 2027, um, might want to consider identifying two playground structures for next year. And if we get an additional $18,000 in reserves or surplus or some other funding source, might be able to bump that up to three. 88 00:28:46,470 --> 00:29:03,030 Um, and then at that point, I think we would have to start making decisions, you know, the following year, you know, because obviously there’s that’s still going to leave a couple parks, um, with playground equipment that’s built in the, you know, in the late 90s, early 2000. 89 00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:19,330 Um, if you continue to proceed with that or if you relook at what we’re doing at the playgrounds, but certainly you take a look at some of these, you know, like Marchand Park and Highland Meadows. I mean, those parks are so such a dense population around that area. 90 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:34,770 And it’s used a lot for us to make that decision that, well, once the playground equipment is too old, we’re going to we’re going to remove it, but we’re not going to replace it. I mean, I can’t even imagine that. So, um, I think those, those type of situations, we could get those taken care of. 91 00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:56,170 Um, next year and again, potentially a third if that’s what the park board is interested in, or if we just stick with the two got a little residual money left over and whether it’s, you know, for the this bike skills or whatever else, um, that can be discussed at a future time. Yeah, I certainly support both those parks. I mean, there’s, there’s clearly numbers that justify it. 92 00:29:56,170 --> 00:30:11,970 Um, the Green Acres again, I’d be back to how does that really fit in our bigger scheme? And are we going to invest a large, you know, in the again, in this kind of what we’ve come to be kind of a moderate medium level park there or would we scale it 93 00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:27,900 back. We kind of give it a little more time. Um, I don’t see that one in my mind as a higher priority. And and I’m just guessing on use. It’s probably much lower in use to. But I could be wrong there. I mean, I’m not out watching these parks on a regular basis. 94 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:47,230 And then, like I said, City Hall Park, we got to kind of be sitting in the in the wings waiting for that one when we get the chance. But it’s clearly a year or two off. Yeah. I mean, I think if we do Marchand, we’d want to look at a pavilion with that as well. 95 00:30:47,230 --> 00:31:08,200 So that’s an extra cost in there. But Arena Acres is really the only one at the top right to if you’re looking up here, it’s you know, and that’s one of the older ones. If I’m recalling it’s it’s a smaller one. 96 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:26,100 When we went and visited Pat and it had just that little wood awning. So I don’t know, it’s not a bigger park if I’m not mistaken. Right. It’s probably the size of one acre. One acre. Yeah, like like City Hall. Right. So, um, but I think those people don’t have a lot up in that area. 97 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:43,970 Um, because we’ve, we’ve, we’ve focused, you know, down around the parks that we’ve done recently. And I would probably be a proponent of looking at Arena Acres again, I’m blanking on how maybe challenging Highland Park is as far as equipment compared to Arena Acres. 98 00:31:43,970 --> 00:32:00,370 But I don’t know that we’d spend a lot of money to your point, Pat and Arena Acres, but we just replace maybe what what is there? Um, and clean that up a little bit because that I don’t know if it’s a little gazebo or what it is, but it’s not. 99 00:32:00,370 --> 00:32:26,370 Where are we supposed to, uh, work on Highland Meadows next time? That was the discussion. Maybe several months ago. I can’t remember. Yeah, I think we’ve got that. Yeah. On the list. Pretty high on. The list. Yeah. Um, so for the Arena Acres, we have some stuff coming on the north side, right. Developments and potentially park land north of main. 100 00:32:26,370 --> 00:32:43,470 How far off is that? Uh, nature’s refuge. Oh, that’s actually already been approved. Um, there is no land within that area, so that’s cash dedication, right? Um, the intent or one thought that came to mind was working with a school district to see if there’s any way to have some sort of cooperative arrangement, um, with the school district for property 101 00:32:43,470 --> 00:33:07,830 and then use those dollars to further develop it. Um, unfortunately, using those dedicated park dollars for replacing a playground equipment at Green Acres Park, that’s not by statute. That’s not the, an allowable expense for dedicated parks to replace equipment. 102 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:30,300 If you’re doing some sort of expansion or land acquisition, those type of things I think we could get by. But I think just on its face, um, to see if we could use some of that money to replace playground equipment, I think that’s a stretch. But there is the fund now, right, that we’re charging for park dedication fees, and 10% or 20% is going to community wide trail and amenities. 103 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:48,300 Yes. So yeah. Beyond the beyond the immediate, uh, service area. Right. Because we are we’ve identified the regional trail system and it’s very expensive. And that’s just another funding source that we were able to start collecting. 104 00:33:48,300 --> 00:34:01,130 Um, having said that, too, when you talk about regional improvements, obviously, like Tower Park is a park that’s a larger scale. Um, at least that’s the plan. Long term, I would think City Hall Park might be that way as well. You know, we use that pickleball courts there and a playground equipment and a warming house and hockey rinks and those type of things. 105 00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:25,370 So that could be a possible funding source. But yeah, that’s um, that’s another, uh, allowable expenditure for that. Nature’s refuge, dedicated parks. There’s a development then to the west of that, the one that wets up along Blaine. And didn’t we have park in there. That that property is currently under consideration to be developed. Um. 106 00:34:25,370 --> 00:34:43,930 So those are just very preliminary plans and there’s really no movement there. Okay. No. If you remember, when the park board looked at Robinson’s South, well, last time, that’s on the south side of Main Street. Um, that’s still going through the process. And if that actually happens, the city would be looking at cash dedication for the parks. 107 00:34:43,930 --> 00:35:09,370 And then if you recall, um, Century Farms North, we have the land for that. So that would be the cash that would allow us to develop that park property. But there’s nothing on the north side of Main Street to date that’s been submit officially submitted to the city at this point. 108 00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:30,500 So kind of just looking at these parks, what we’ve heard is we’ve heard Marshawn, we’ve heard Highland Meadows and Marina Acres. Um, so we’re just kind of looking. At. Everybody’s thoughts on how we proceed in 2027, because, again, we’re given the funds. We want to make sure we’re utilizing the funds. 109 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:56,330 So I think looking at the numbers of how many, um, Lino Lakes homes within a half mile, Highland Meadow Park has 717 homes there, right. Um, Marshawn, uh, like you said, um, it’s probably we’re looking at two year over project and we’re still sitting on that construction or the building. Uh, we don’t know what to do with it or how to do with it. 110 00:35:56,330 --> 00:36:22,600 So maybe we can sit on it and maybe dedicate some, um, small project with the Wenzel Farm Park. Um, like little construction or little toy or whatever it might be. Right. 111 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:53,770 And then maybe a Highland Meadow park might be a good idea to, um, whether it’s a brand new something or, I don’t know, I think those two might be a good with whatever we might have. So you’re suggesting Highland Meadows? Yeah. And what’s that second one? Wenzel farm, just two small. Uh, because they do have 704 homes around them. So, um, both of them have larger homes. So. 112 00:36:53,770 --> 00:37:14,670 And I just want to just to clarify, um, we put this together just to provide some baseline information. I mean, you have to and I appreciate the, the looking at the density of the number of homes within the service area. But, um, for example, like Wenzel Farms, a lot of that is I don’t say older. It’s older. Yeah. No, no. 113 00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:32,500 Very little kids, um, type stuff. Um, and it is a park that is probably a half acre, um, in length. So I think it’s important just to understand where it’s like Highland Meadows. That’s almost strictly single family homes. 114 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:48,130 Um, I know there’s a couple townhomes and stuff by Lake Drive, but I’m just so, so kind of looking the numbers. And again, even with the closest park is just to kind of at least to begin the discussion on what you want to do. I think regardless of what the park board’s kind of feeling today, I think it’s imperative that, um, prior to our next meeting, everybody take the time. 115 00:37:48,130 --> 00:38:03,730 If you’re not real familiar with what these parks are, including Sunset Oaks Park and then the Wenzel Marsh and Highland Meadows, all of those. I think it’s, um, just to do it justice to really take a look to, to understand what the neighborhood looks like, what the existing park currently is. 116 00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:23,000 And those type of things would be helpful to to have. I want to make one more pass here on trails. I mean, um, we’re given up on lilac until county. The county can help do that one. 117 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:42,570 There’s a I think there’s a couple others probably in the same boat where we’re kind of need a county road upgrade opportunity. But are there I mean, trails are highly valued by our community. We’ve never even been able to take it serious because we just didn’t have that kind of money. And we were putting priority on playgrounds. But are there any small trail projects that I mean, I’ve been on some of them that looked pretty rough. 118 00:38:42,570 --> 00:39:00,800 So we have a pretty significant amount of funding. Uh, included in the 2027 budget for trail repairs, maintenance, and actually some extensions. Um, we have a pavement management plan similar to what we have for the streets also in the trail. 119 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:15,200 So we we have a condition index to look at those to figure out which trails should be fog sealed, which should be seal coated, which one should be replaced, and those type of things. And we’ve also identified some, uh, trail segments that we could use type things. 120 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:29,200 So that’s something that I don’t think the park board really needs to spend a lot of time in is, again, looking at these limited funds. Um, I think we do have a funding source, and I can actually put that on a future agenda to let you know what we are looking at for 2027, um, for trail work. 121 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:47,470 Um, this year, for those of you that happen to have gone through Country Lakes Estates Park, that was, uh, our big project this year that we actually replaced replaced that and that, that was in really bad shape. And the project turned out, um, great. But I could certainly share that information with you at a future park board meeting. 122 00:39:47,470 --> 00:40:05,530 Yeah, I think that’d be good, just to see how it ties in with what we’re. Doing. The only thing I’m thinking about for trails, and I’m not as familiar with and just thinking about these emails, and we probably have to respond in some way, um, is there at 123 00:40:05,530 --> 00:40:28,130 least a safe street crossing there for the Sunset Oaks to the to the other park? No. So if you’re talking about getting them to James Park, they would have to cross lilac. And there is not a pedestrian crosswalk or anything. It’s 45 miles an hour. 124 00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:47,300 Uh, is that I think, uh, but anyways, no, they would have to cross that. Um, and again, ideally be nice not to have any type of obstacles to get people there. Um, realistically, um, just given the county roads and the regional park and bodies of water and all this other stuff, um, unfortunately it’s quite common. 125 00:40:47,300 --> 00:41:00,070 Um, now that if you’re a parent and you have some kids, you want to go to the playground, you may have to jump into your car versus, you know, having your kids ride your bike to the park because obviously you’re not going to want them going or county roads or those type of things, and that’d be the same thing over 126 00:41:00,070 --> 00:41:13,600 at Marshall and part two. Um, if we’re kind of saying, you know what, Wenzel Farms Park, Wenzel Farms area, um, you either need to go to the middle school to have some leisure opportunities, like pickleball courts and everything else they have over at the middle school and Blue Heron Elementary 127 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:31,230 School. Or get to Marshall. But now you’re crossing Marchand over Lake Drive. But there is a cross cross signalized intersection at Marsh and Elm Street. But, um, that’s just, um, we’d love to have a playground that, you know, so folks would never have to cross a busy road. 128 00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:52,030 That’s just not practical. And we have, what, 20 some playground structures and we’re still not able to accommodate that. What would it take? What would be the cost, Rick, if we did? Uh, Marchand and added a pavilion? I forget what we’ve talked about as far as the pavilion. 129 00:41:52,030 --> 00:42:08,430 Cause I think the the, the hesitation I have with the pavilion for 2027 is, again, I think we need to step back and really look at the master planning process. Like, what do we want to do. With what we want. 130 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:24,270 To do? Do we really want to demolish it? And do we want to provide, uh, off street parking? Most of our neighborhood parks don’t have off street parking. Um, the centralized ones, you know, the big ones. Sunrise Park, Lionel Park, um, even Birch Park. But that’s a discussion. 131 00:42:24,270 --> 00:42:41,400 Do we view that as a destination park where we want to provide a certain number of off street parking spots, and if so, how many? Um, are we expecting that there’s going to be football practices there or so those type of things. So I think that’s that’s going to take some time. 132 00:42:41,400 --> 00:43:01,470 Whereas I think if we if you’re looking at any type of park improvements for 2027, if we stick with the playground equipment, I think we can strategically figure it out. But then maybe for 2027, one of our goals is to remaster Plan Marchand Park so we can start figuring out what we want to do with that, and then consider that for 2028 or beyond. 133 00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:20,230 And if we’re saying Marchand is a two year project, taking care of the playground equipment with this budget, while we plan for the rest of it, wouldn’t that satisfy exactly what we’ve been talking about? Unless you would like to playground in a different location when the pavilion happens, you know, would you move it to the north? Would you? I mean, I’m sure you could 134 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:33,130 put it where it is, and we just have to match plan around it. Right. It’s just. Really be great to to plan for it all at once. Yeah. It just I think it’s going to take it’s going to be a lot of discussion looking at what we want Marchand Park. To be in the future. And I. 135 00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:48,230 Just we’ve we’ve. Literally this has been one of the top playgrounds under consideration for the last five years. And we always say, oh, you know what? We want a master plan for what we’re doing with the building and stuff. 136 00:43:48,230 --> 00:44:04,670 And I just, I, I think we’re to the point because again, we’re probably going to be I know we’re going to be a couple of years out before we do anything with the park building, because Public Works is using that until the end of next year. So if you want to do any improvements to Marchand parking, we’d have to be careful, because you’re right, once you put the playground someplace, you’re you’re stuck. 137 00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:26,830 You can’t you can’t change your mind.. At about 20, 40, 50ft from the building. Right now it is. Yeah, yeah. And we would what we would probably do is we would probably just do some, uh, concept sketches. Just a fair. Okay. 138 00:44:26,830 --> 00:44:40,600 If we decide to remove the building and not have any on street parking here, because we do have a master plan for Marchand Park, but it’s got to be 20 some years old. But just to look at a couple different scenarios, like, what would it be if this, if this and hopefully we if we looked at a couple of those ideas, you might say, you know what, let’s 139 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:56,900 put the playground here will give us the most options for what we want. To do. Yeah, I mean, it’s it’s fairly flexible. We’ve got open field to the south end, uh, some open field to the north side. So I mean, there’s some there’s, there’s some ways to kind of work around with some of this, I would think. 140 00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:18,100 And there’s some. And I don’t think we want big fields. I mean we’ve got those across the street. Right, right. Exactly. So yeah. So I think it’s also I’d like to see it be a mid-sized park. I don’t know if I’d call it destination, but have some new fun. Um, amenities there that would also satisfy. 141 00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:44,000 Maybe not investing in Wenzel. You know, for a meeting tot there’d be some tot stuff, right? So I think we can make it a really nice park. And I really would like to see a pavilion there at some point, but I understand we just got a hold off on that. 142 00:45:44,000 --> 00:46:04,200 So as we look at it for 2027 thoughts, then on again, it sounds like just what I’m hearing, Marchand would be one in Highland Meadows would be another one to put some funds into. 143 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:17,630 And then possibly looking at a master plan for Marchand to to add a pavilion and, you know, maybe a throwing a picnic table or two. I don’t know, but, uh, um, looking at that, but, uh, to Rick’s point, if the city is going to be using that over the next two years, we get some new equipment in there for those folks that are over there. 144 00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:33,800 And it’s still a park you can get to. And again, I don’t know that I put too much into Winslow’s a priority right now just because a block up, you got all the amenities of the elementary and the middle school for those folks, as well as as well as, uh, just driving over to Marchand if they had to. 145 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:53,800 So just to give you a sense of, uh, budget, um, if you recall, the last couple of years we budgeted, um, $90,000 for a playground project for a typical playground, you know, something like Sunrise Park would be more because it’s a larger regional park, but that would include the equipment, the installation, concrete edging, if needed. 146 00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:13,600 The engine engineered wood fiber, just any of those type of sold site amenities so that that would be the project cost. So if you were to look at that for both Marchand Park and Highland Meadows Park, that’s going to get you to 180,000. 147 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:28,770 Um, the way the current Park Trail fund proposed is for 2027, that leaves you 72,000 left. So again, you can just say, you know what? Let’s. You can identify a project. We can wait to see if there’s additional funding, if we can get it, if we can get a bump back up to 90, then maybe we we identify a third one. 148 00:47:28,770 --> 00:47:44,370 Um, if you’re talking about Arena Acres Park, that’s a smaller park. You probably don’t need $90,000. You can get by with 72,000 if that’s what you wanted to do. Um, again, the issue with, I should say an issue. 149 00:47:44,370 --> 00:48:00,000 One thing to keep in mind again, and I think it’s super important for everybody to visit these parks because, you know, Green Acres Park, very large lots. There’s not a lot of homes in that area. So again, whether it’s um, I do think the playground equipment needs to be addressed. So I mean, we’re getting to the point now. 150 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:19,300 Are we going to are we going to pull it, not replace it or, you know, should we replace it? So, um, how much use there is? I. I honestly don’t know if you want to do some sort of survey. We can do that. But there’s just not a lot of homes in that arena. Acres subdivision. Now, there will be more when Nature’s Refuge is built and connects. So, you. Know. 151 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:36,030 Given that maybe we want to wait and have a larger playground structure because there’s potentially. More float down from. The north. But it is a super small park. It’s got a tennis. Court which takes up most all of it. 152 00:48:36,030 --> 00:49:16,830 Yeah, yeah, it’s a small, small in size and it’s got a tennis court, uh, basketball court open, a little open space and. Yeah, it’s it’s tight. Suggestion would be to bring that park forward. I don’t know that it really matters, because to get there, you have to know it’s even there. Absolutely. Most people. Don’t see. Agreed. It just those two doors down from the. So that’s the reason. 153 00:49:16,830 --> 00:49:42,200 That if we if we could do Arena Acres Rick, do you think it’s 70,000 or just take the 72 and be able to. Yeah. You you just need to understand the scope of the project. It’s going to be smaller. Um, basically making that determination that Arena Acres Park playground is a higher priority than Sunset. Oaks or Wenzel. 154 00:49:42,200 --> 00:50:07,530 Farms. Right. Um. So that but would we be able to use cash dedication funds from Nature Refuge for Arena Acres, not use our pool funds? That’s the. That’s that probably. Probably not. If he. Okay, there might be some creative ways. to utilize those funds for some sort of other improvements, but just a flat out replacement of equipment. 155 00:50:07,530 --> 00:50:23,600 You can’t. Use dedicated parks. Funds for the Nexus, isn’t there? Yeah, yeah. All right. All right. I would be for, you know, certainly. Marchand I mean, I think that has the potential to be a very visible park. 156 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:43,300 Uh, you can you can get at it from a number of directions. And, you know, you do have to cross Lake Drive, but I’d see us trying to maybe jack that one up just a little bit and put in some new features that we don’t have in other parks, perhaps, um, start looking at shade cover. I mean, that’s, that has some trees there, but it’s still pretty exposed. 157 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:59,400 We’ve got a few trees down. Over there. Well do they. Okay. But you know, just kind of saying move into a kind of a above average. If we, if we think of this 90 as our typical maybe that’s an above average, uh, certainly for Highland Meadows, you see a lot of activity there. 158 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:14,170 Uh, there’s space there again, we might be able to come up with a feature there that’s different than we have in our other parks. It’s pretty easy to get to and drive to. It’s not dedicated parking, but it’s pretty easy to find a spot on the street. 159 00:51:14,170 --> 00:51:32,170 So, I mean, I’m not trying to get people to drive in there for some very active type of, uh, amenity, but it’d be fun to just start throwing a little more diversity into our part. Uh. I think. Playgrounds. Yeah. Make them look a little different. 160 00:51:32,170 --> 00:51:51,500 Or add them, you know, somewhere there’s a big rock climbing wall in one of them. Right. And people might, you know, people neighborhood. And this is a big neighborhood. They get advantage of it. But maybe somebody wants to make that jump in the car and come over there. So anyway. 161 00:51:51,500 --> 00:52:08,630 So are you saying instead of planning for Highland and Marchand at 90, taking some of that 72 and putting it, increasing those budgets instead of doing a third? Yeah, I mean, that’s what I was proposing there. Yeah. I mean we’ve kind of we want to keep everybody happy and we want to move money around. Right. And spread it out. 162 00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:27,230 But, uh, I just think people I mean, given parks that, you know, I’ve been to in all their places around the country, you all or even around our neighborhood, Shoreview and Hugo and others, people’s expectation of parks are just changed. 163 00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:44,130 And I’m not saying we have to bring every one of our parks up to that expectation. There’s no way in the world that could do it. But can we be strategic and pick either one park where we like, you know, like a turn, but, you know, over invest or go beyond? Or do we kind of put a unique amenity here and you can 164 00:52:44,130 --> 00:53:19,100 amenity there and another one over there and give, you know, some of these parks a little more unique character. That’s kind of what I’m proposing. I don’t know if we need to make a final decision. Dave. I think we’re awful close. I mean, I just throwing out ideas here. For some of those sunshades. 165 00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:40,570 Rick, any thought of cost or like, again, nothing we have to say tonight, but with that 72 to Pat’s point, can we add some amenities that make it look different or even feel different from a playground perspective? Could I remember when Bill Johnson was here a few months ago when we talked about, um, playground equipment? Um. 166 00:53:40,570 --> 00:53:53,370 Really expensive. I mean, he equated it to, okay, you want a sunshade, you’re going to lose two slides and a couple play events. So what do you want? You want a couple cylinders? If you put the money in the shades, you’re not gonna do anything for the kids. To play. 167 00:53:53,370 --> 00:54:17,370 On some footings and putting poles up and high enough. Okay? Keep the dust. Air. But I think of, uh, Switzer up in, um, Shoreview. Right. And if you look at that park and again, we’re not Shoreview, we’re not Woodbury. 168 00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:29,200 But are there some amenities they have I don’t know, what do you even call it, but it twirls around. You hang on. And, um, you know, even building some things for older kids, a chin up bar, as simple as that, or something to that effect, too. So. 169 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:44,670 And I don’t know that we have to make a decision on that tonight, but at least coming to a point of Pat, you’ve mentioned Marchand and Highland Meadows and just where do we want to spend those funds? And if that’s what we want to make a recommendation, then we can get a motion to do so. 170 00:54:44,670 --> 00:55:07,730 If there’s no further discussion or if there’s further discussion, we can have that as well. Okay. I have a question about one of the parks. Do, um, does any of our parks have like a volleyball bat, uh, net type of thing already put up? We did have a group come in requesting volleyball at one point. 171 00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:26,000 Yeah. And I think we kind of mentioned that, you know, uh, Centennial Beach, as I would Centerville beach would be an area of opportunity. And I don’t know if we said it was more community, But, um, I, we didn’t really give it too much discussion on volleyball. 172 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:47,130 Tower Park would probably be a park that we would. Yeah. You could look at something like that. Okay. Well, I was approached by one of the member of Lionel. Um, and she was saying that line one of the Lionel Park. It might have been Lionel Park or. 173 00:55:47,130 --> 00:56:06,500 I can’t remember exact park, but there was a volleyball fence or nets. That’s always up. And she wanted to be down or something along those lines, so I wasn’t sure if that was the case. If that’s not the case. Don’t worry about it. Yeah, but it could be again, whether it’s Tower Park in the future, City Hall Park. 174 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:48,330 Um, I think that’s more of a larger destination type amenity, but, um, yeah. So I’ll just make a motion that we focus our $2,027 in energy on Marchand Park playground replacement and potential upgrade, and Highland Meadows Park playground and potential upgrade. We have a motion. Is there a second? I second. Have a second. All those in favor? Aye. 175 00:56:48,330 --> 00:57:13,730 Those opposed. That motion carries for Marchand and Highland Meadows to spend our budget in regards to 2027. Looking at those two park areas. I think once we have a better idea what the cost might be, and we really kind of we’re ballpark it here. 176 00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:31,470 Uh, if there’s other funds, we can always come back and do a small project somewhere. And I will, um, I know Sean Berry’s been asking when he can come talk to us, and it’s just a I think he just wants to ideate. I don’t even know if it’ll go anywhere, but, um, with the next meeting. Be a good one for me to invite him for. Uh. 177 00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:47,270 Yeah. It’d be interesting to know how. I have no idea. Right. So how does it work? How much land do you have? It cost. And I think they’ve invested significant amount of money into the Anoka County Park. 178 00:57:47,270 --> 00:58:03,530 And, um, that, for example, the eight mile stretch that they, they deemed walking trail only they went with a little skid steer and just demolished all of the features and stuff like that, that the part that Mauck probably paid and put in there. There’s a lot of volunteers that come out and do these things, but I know there was money there. 179 00:58:03,530 --> 00:58:23,100 So I, I think they’re just looking for somewhere close to invest outside of that space. So I’ll just invite him over to talk. I have no idea what he’s going to say. Yeah. So but I think there’s an opportunity there to at least hear it, even if it’s not for 26. You know, something to think about for the future. 180 00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:39,300 So I think the other thing is it broadens the age group, an audience, you know, the, you know, the demographic that we’re hitting with our parks, you know, certainly trails could be anybody from stroller up. Right. 181 00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:54,630 But some of the playground equipment is pretty focused on a certain age, uh, certain kind of activity. So it’s nice to be able to look at our parks and think about how can we hit some of the others that maybe aren’t playing on the playground or aren’t walking the trails or whatever? So I like the idea. 182 00:58:54,630 --> 00:59:08,930 And the other thing to to Rick’s point is get out and take a look at some of these parks AA that you’re familiar. Um, Pat and I went and again, we’re not construction guys, so we’re not breaking down. Okay. There’s a crack here, what have you. 183 00:59:08,930 --> 00:59:26,370 But we’d look at the basketball court, right? Is it uneven or does that need to be replaced? And I think especially as we look at using the year installed for kind of a starting point, right. Um, maybe that gives you two, three, four parks. 184 00:59:26,370 --> 00:59:41,330 Um, and we happen to see a few people around and just ask them, you know, how often do you use the park and try to gain as much information as we can so we know where these dollars should be going, and then we’re making the best decisions we can to to get some of the parks back up and running to current date and code and whatever else may take place. So if we want to do that as a group, I’m okay with that. 185 00:59:41,330 --> 00:59:54,870 And, you know, you can shoot a text and be glad to go out and look at 4 or 5 parks. I think we took an hour patch or so. Yeah, it may be 4 or 5 parks just to kind of get an idea of where they are and what’s needed. 186 00:59:54,870 --> 01:00:10,170 I think the other thing is, if you can fit it in while you’re driving from one that needs it to another that needs it, stop and take a look at a couple of our recent ones and just get a better feel for the kind of the the typical playground amenities that we’re providing. 187 01:00:10,170 --> 01:00:22,070 Um, I haven’t been back over to Pheasant Hills. I was there during construction, but, you know, just get over there and get a kind of a feel for I mean, it’s going to I could just tell it’s going to look much different than some of the others. I’m not sure about. 188 01:00:22,070 --> 01:00:38,730 Shenandoah just looked at the picture, but I think just us having a good feel of what we have and kind of what’s current will give us idea if we want to bump it up a little bit, or if we can squeeze it down, whatever. You can even look at those parks. 189 01:00:38,730 --> 01:00:51,900 Maybe you work nearby, right? Maybe you work in another city. Take a look at those parks and just see some of those amenities. Again, we’re we’re not a Woodbury. We’re not a shore view. We are Centennial. Right. 190 01:00:51,900 --> 01:01:17,630 So, um, but even looking at some of the Blaine parks around here as well, take a look at those and any ideas to kind of add or things we we might be thinking that we haven’t thought about before in some of our parks. All right. With that, is there any other business? Okay. And I look for a motion to adjourn. I make a motion. I’ll second it. 191 01:01:17,630 --> 01:01:17,630 Second. All those in favor?