1 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:26,720 election. I'm helping your deputy chief election officer Crystal and your chief 2 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:31,679 election officer Ross uh with Blackwell Mr. Blackwell um helping them uh put 3 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:36,320 this election together and that one of the things they asked me to do is let 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,800 people know this is what's involved when you are running for office. So, um, you 5 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,120 want me to >> Oh, yeah. I'll sneak at you. 6 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:50,280 » Lisa, will you will you be able to share this with us afterwards or 7 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:50,280 » Yeah, I can share 8 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,640 at least the dates and reminders of that stuff's coming up. Good. I don't We'll 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,480 make notes. >> Yeah, we'll put it as a PDF and then No 10 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,719 problem. So, your slides. >> Yeah. 11 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,840 » Where am I supposed to get that? Um well uh 12 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:14,000 » then again >> we met one of these at one of those 13 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:19,600 council meetings about four years ago. I was participant. What do I have to do? 14 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:26,840 Right. >> There we go. 15 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,840 » So there's probably 16 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:33,720 [laughter] 17 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:40,720 » good engaging with the community. [laughter] 18 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:45,119 » Well, I'm going to talk about a couple three main areas. One about becoming a 19 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:49,680 candidate. one about actually what's involved with being an elected official 20 00:01:47,119 --> 00:01:54,079 because um sometimes unless you've been going to meetings on a regular basis, 21 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:57,439 you may not always know, oh wow, this is what's involved and there's a lot of 22 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:02,880 things behind the scene as well. So the idea is to give you a hopefully a 23 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:08,399 realistic understanding of what is required and then just what's your life 24 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:13,360 going to be like as an elected official uh with that. So, I'll just get us 25 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:18,080 going. Um, because I'm lazy as anything, you'll see abbreviations. So, when I'm 26 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,680 referring to CC, that's the community charter. That's the principal piece of 27 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:27,360 legislation that impacts a local government. That's a municipality. Um, 28 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:31,840 there's also LEA, uh, local government, uh, local election campaign financing 29 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:36,080 act. Say that time a couple times quickly. That's what deals with how do 30 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:40,000 we deal with the paperwork for your expenses, what needs to be involved. 31 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:45,519 deals with election advertising. So again, another important piece of paper 32 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:50,560 information and LGA, local government act, and that's where we find all the 33 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:54,160 regulations for um running an election. So there's legislation all over the 34 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:58,080 place. So if you're really curious what it is and want to look at it yourself, 35 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:04,239 not a problem, but that information is provided. So let's just get right into 36 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:09,200 it. So you want to become a candidate. Well, if you aren't familiar with what's 37 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:13,360 involved, there's actually a lot of resources to help you. You'll see on 38 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:18,879 this page or this slide and on the next slide. Um, the Ministry responsible for 39 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:22,560 local governments has put together a wealth of information for you. Uh, 40 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,879 talking about what does it mean about running for it, what are some of the 41 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:31,920 basics about elections, a candidates guide, a voters's guide, scrutiners 42 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:37,519 guide. We'll talk about scrutiners or candidate representatives later and what 43 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:42,080 if you wanted to support someone. So, we have the link right there for you. Um, 44 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,560 there's also some videos for those of you who prefer to watch rather than 45 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:50,480 read. And so, again, they've come come over with a lot of information about 46 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:54,480 what's involved. So, we just want to make you aware of that. Um, this 47 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:59,280 information is also in the nomination packages. There's a cover letter or a 48 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:02,799 cover memo that contains a whole bunch of information as well. And these 49 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:08,720 documents are listed there with the links as well to help you with that. And 50 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:12,879 so there's even more guides because we are not alone in helping to put on this 51 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:16,160 election. Elections BC is quite involved. Um, if you choose to be a 52 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,479 candidate, you will get to know Elections BC well because they're the 53 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:25,040 ones you will contact about dealing with any campaign financing, questions about 54 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:29,280 the advertising and that and they too have some guides. So, we've given you a 55 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:36,479 link there to make it easier for you to find it. So, let's see if you're 56 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:42,960 qualified. Um, there are certain um criteria you need to meet and as long as 57 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:48,160 you meet that, have at it. Um, so are you 18 or older on election day? Um, I 58 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:52,800 kid you not, there have been some elected officials. They weren't 18 at 59 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:58,000 the time they voted in advanced voting, but on general election, they were 18 60 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:03,759 and they were elected. So, the minimum age is 18 on general voting day. uh 61 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:09,039 resident of BC for at least six months prior to submitting the nominating 62 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:14,320 papers and you're not disqualified from voting or being nominated or holding 63 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:20,560 office or otherwise disqualified. Um please note that you are not required to 64 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:25,680 be a resident, believe it or not, in the jurisdiction in which you are running 65 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:30,639 for office. And you're going, I can't believe that. Um I'll offer uh an 66 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:35,840 example. For example, I live in the south part of Siri. So there's Suriri 67 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:39,840 South and then there's White Rock. A number of South Suri residents have 68 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:43,440 businesses in White Rock. They don't live in White Rock, but they have run 69 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:48,639 for council and actually have been elected because they've been such part 70 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:54,240 of the community. So the criteria is you're a BC residence for at least 6 71 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:59,600 months. That's the criteria. It is not the issue of where you live is not an 72 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,479 issue until you go to vote. >> We had someone run here before you was 73 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:07,514 the resident. >> Yeah. And that 74 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:07,514 » became a counselor. [laughter] 75 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,639 Like I said, as long as far as we're concerned, are you meeting our criteria? 76 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,840 Yeah. Excellent. We're happy because then we can start processing your 77 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:24,080 paperwork. Okay. What else I got? 78 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Okay. key dates. I thought I had key dates. It hates me. Oh, oopsie. That's 79 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:35,120 why they don't let me play with That's why I shouldn't be playing with any of 80 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:40,800 this. >> I was on slide eight. 81 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:43,120 It doesn't like me. Oh, there we go. I think just keep the mouse like in this 82 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,160 area. >> I think it was down in the menu which 83 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:52,319 confused it. >> Okay. Sorry. So, there are some key 84 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:56,960 nomination uh key dates to know. Starting tomorrow, 9:00 a.m. and not a 85 00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:01,919 minute sooner or 9:00 a.m. precisely for those of you who remember Jack Webster. 86 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:08,639 » 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning is the opening of the nomination period. It 87 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:13,199 runs till September 11th, 400 p.m. So during that time, 88 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:19,120 oops, sorry, I got stuck on the nines. Should say or yeah, no, the 11th. There 89 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:24,720 we go. Um that's the time in which you will submit your nomination papers in 90 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:29,599 order to be considered for this. Um there's a pre- campaign period and this 91 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:34,800 is where LEFA's coming in the election financing and that was from July 20th to 92 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:39,440 September 11th. You still have to keep track of all your expenses that you were 93 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:46,000 there before you the campaign starts which is of course September 12th until 94 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:50,400 the election day. advanced voting. There shall be one advanced voting day. Um you 95 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:56,800 don't have to do two like other municipalities because of the vote um 96 00:07:52,800 --> 00:08:02,800 population threshold. So October 7th, 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. come on down and 97 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:06,240 vote. We'd be happy to have you there. And then the other election day, of 98 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:12,479 course, is general voting day on the 17th. Um you're welcome to encourage 99 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:17,199 anyone. It doesn't matter which day you choose to vote on. 100 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:22,160 I always advise candidates, you need to be that's the last thing you want to do 101 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:26,000 is forget not to vote for yourself and because it gets a little crazy on 102 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:32,560 election day. So come to advanced voting. Um that's not a problem. And for 103 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:37,839 the residents as well long time ago and um good thing I had my gray hair but a 104 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:41,680 long time ago you it only certain people could vote on advanced voting date. 105 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:46,240 That's out the window. Come on down everybody. So, in theory, we could have 106 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:50,080 everybody vote on the advanced voting date. That doesn't happen because a lot 107 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:54,000 of people forget to the actual date, but that's okay. 108 00:08:52,080 --> 00:09:00,640 So, you're welcome to come vote for either of those. Um, what's going to 109 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:06,399 happen is um once we tally at 8:00, we close the doors. We start a preliminary 110 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:10,320 count. It's not the official results, okay? But we're going to have a good 111 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:15,680 idea by the end of the night who in theory has been elected because we've 112 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:20,640 got to go through and uh do a number of ballot reconciliations and all that 113 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:25,920 between then and before 400 p.m. on the 21st, okay? To make sure that everything 114 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:30,720 is in order, that there's no problems with the books or anything like that. 115 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,760 So, preliminary results are done on the night of the election because everybody 116 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:40,800 wants to know. No one's going to wait till Monday morning, but the very 117 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:47,440 official results which will let's say 9.5 times out of 10 match 118 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:52,640 the uh preliminary results and those will be officially disclosed before 119 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:58,480 October 21st 4 p.m. And when we're going through doing the ballot reconciliations 120 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:06,160 and that like on election night, you and a scrutiner can come on down and watch 121 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:10,480 the count or not. Your choice. But if you want to, you can watch and observe. 122 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,399 Um, but when we're going through the books, which will be on the Monday, 123 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:19,920 making sure, checking everything to make sure it's there, only candidates can 124 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:24,959 watch if you want to. It's not mandatory. Yes, you have a question. 125 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,480 » Is there mailing up vote opportunity? >> You stole my question. 126 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:32,959 » Yes, there there is mail ballot voting. Don't worry, I'll get to that one. Okay, 127 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:37,200 well, fine. I'll address it now. Um, what will happen is is that yes, we do 128 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:44,560 have the opportunity for people who wish a mail ballot. They will have to make 129 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:48,640 that request. Um, they will the thing is very tight time frame for us to get the 130 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:52,880 ballots back from the polling uh from the printers and that. So, as soon as we 131 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,640 get them back, then fine, we can start firing out the mail ballots either via 132 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Canada post or if someone says, "I want a mail ballot." They can come on down 133 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,440 and pick it up and they have to make that request because we've got to we 134 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:07,839 have paperwork. Nothing else you'll learn. There is paperwork for 135 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:11,600 everything. So, they are welcome to do that. They can we can also make 136 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:17,200 arrangements that somebody else picks it up for them. Not a problem. Um, so we 137 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:24,320 make arrange we figure out how we get it to them. it's their responsibility to 138 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:28,800 get it to us before 8:00 p.m. on general voting day. Now, we know we're going to 139 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:33,519 get a number of them beforehand. So, on the Thursday at 400 p.m., because that's 140 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:36,880 what our uh election bylaw says, we'll start processing the ones we've 141 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:41,680 received, which means going through going, "Yep, 142 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:47,440 we it's somebody who requested it. Open it up. Yes, they meet all the criteria. 143 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:54,399 We open that up. their boat is actually still sealed in a envelope. 144 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:59,200 That's what goes into the box. We seal that up so nobody gets into it. And then 145 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:03,839 on election night, if there are any others, we will open it up, go through 146 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:08,560 the same process we did on Thursday to make sure everything was, you know, that 147 00:12:05,839 --> 00:12:13,839 we could accept that ballot and if we can into the box and then shake it all 148 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:17,760 up, open it up, open the envelopes, and start counting. 149 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,519 That's mail ballot voting in >> when do you what's your best guess of 150 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:26,560 when the mail the ballots would be valuable for the mail ballots? 151 00:12:23,519 --> 00:12:29,200 » Um well the request is then I'm sorry I'm just trying I don't have my calendar 152 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:33,920 in front of me. >> I'm looking at right behind you. So the 153 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:37,839 September the 11th is a Friday. >> Yeah. But the the problem is 154 00:12:36,079 --> 00:12:40,959 » we have until the four No, no, no, no. You got a bunch of dates we still have 155 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:45,600 to meet before I can do an official official declaration can be done on 156 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,639 October 21st or probably September 21st. >> Okay. So, getting the ballot. 157 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:53,279 » Yeah. Well, no, we don't. We're getting the ballot. Long Stewart, here's the ad 158 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,800 boring administrative details. We're on the phone with the printers getting 159 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:03,279 things done, but we cannot officially declare that there's going to be a 160 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:09,040 notice of election until the 21st of September because by the what happens is 161 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:13,519 on the 11th people have until 4 p.m. on the 14th in order to challenge your 162 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:19,040 nomination. Then there's 72 hours for the courts to deal with it. If that 163 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:23,920 happens, please no. Okay. But if that happens, but the other thing we have to 164 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:29,040 do is you have a week window afterward to go, "What was I thinking? I'm 165 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,800 checking on out. Get my name off the list." Without having to get ministerial 166 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:40,560 privilege, you have until 400 p.m. September 18th there. So, one week 167 00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:44,320 later, you have until I'm out without having to go through to the ministry. 168 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:49,839 And there you go. So, we can't do official declaration of notice of 169 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:54,079 election till the 20 uh September 21st at 4 p.m. 170 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:58,480 We will have told the printers to get things going, but we tell the printers, 171 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:05,279 you can't start running the ballots until we know what 400 p.m. on the 18th. 172 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:09,199 Every other municipality is doing the same thing. [clears throat] 173 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:14,320 So, when we get the ballots, well, obviously we need to get the ballots 174 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:18,959 before October 7th. So that's the very last time, but we're 175 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:24,880 hoping to get it sometime. So sometime between the 21st and the 7th actually to 176 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:30,880 do to get the ballots, get the packages out. The requests can come now if 177 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:34,560 somebody wants a mail ballot. >> Nice and confusing. 178 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:38,399 » Interesting. >> So that's where we are with that. So we 179 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:42,720 have that official results before the 21st of October. And um if you're 180 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:49,680 fortunate enough to be elected, you have a date on November 9th at 7:00 p.m. to 181 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:55,760 be part of the inaugural meeting, which is where you will be sworn in. What will 182 00:14:52,240 --> 00:15:00,720 happen between October 7 17th and November 9th is the old council is still 183 00:14:58,079 --> 00:15:03,600 in place. 9th or 3rd? >> This is the third. 184 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:07,120 » Third. >> Where is it? 185 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:12,399 » That's up by in front of me. >> Oh, November 3rd. Jeez Louise. I got to 186 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:13,760 get my eyes checked. Yeah. So, anyways, you have a date, 187 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:17,519 » right? >> November 3rd. 188 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:21,600 » Okay, we good. >> Good. 189 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:26,480 » So, there you go. All right. Nomination details. As we said, we're starting the 190 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:32,720 nomination period tomorrow. If you wish to submit your nominations, 191 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:37,920 you got to find two electors in your community 192 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:44,720 who are going to nominate you. Okay? and they absolutely have to be 193 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:50,480 residents or non-resident property electors who are eligible to vote. Okay, 194 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:55,839 we will worry about whether like for the most part you're pretending to find 195 00:15:52,800 --> 00:16:00,880 residence with that. The thing you need to know, you can you cannot hold more 196 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:04,959 than one position. So, you can't run for mayor and for counselor and change 197 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,720 seats, you know, should you be elected for vote. You can't wait to choose 198 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:13,279 whichever one you want. You only get to you got to figure out which one you want 199 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:16,160 when you submit your documents cuz we're not taking two sets. 200 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,120 » Could you change your mind in the period? 201 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,519 » Yes. Then what you would ask is you give us in writing nominate say that I wish 202 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:27,279 to withdraw those nominations that nomination for that position and then 203 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,240 you would submit new nomination documents that still go through. 204 00:16:29,061 --> 00:16:35,440 [laughter] Pisces, 205 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:39,920 » I I'm just sitting here taking this whole new strategy. [laughter] 206 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:44,720 » Okay. Well, okay, [clears throat] let's talk a little bit about that. Um, uh, in 207 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:49,759 24 years of running elections, I haven't had that happen yet, please. 208 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:52,639 » Um, what I have had, can I tell you something? 209 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:56,959 » We've had many people sit in this chamber and say to us, the first time it 210 00:16:55,199 --> 00:17:00,560 ever happened to me in 30 years in this industry has happened in Lions Bay more 211 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:04,079 than once. So don't wish. Be careful what you wish for. 212 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:08,319 » I'm not wishing for it. Not in your head. 213 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:15,360 » The one thing I will say um more than anything else is please for your own 214 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:21,760 peace of mind. Do not wait till September 11 3:00. Don't wait till se 215 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:28,000 September 11th at noon. Don't wait till September 11th at 900 a.m. to submit. I 216 00:17:25,199 --> 00:17:33,679 have had un the unfortunate situation of 217 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:38,480 nominations completed incorrectly, incomplete. 218 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:43,280 People have had insufficient time to fix it and they're running in the door five 219 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:48,480 after four. Here are my forms. And I'm like, I'm very sorry to tell you 220 00:17:46,352 --> 00:17:53,840 [clears throat] that we I can't accept them. It's past that 221 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:59,520 time frame. You have to have completed, correct, accurate forms submitted. 222 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:03,679 That's why please don't wait till the last day cuz we if something goes 223 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,919 sideways, you won't you may not have enough time to fix it. 224 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:12,400 » Yes, sir. >> Back to the dual position thing which um 225 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:16,080 » I was looking at the nomination form say there's the added attestation 226 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,799 » that should you be elected, you'll accepted that role. 227 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,200 » Correct. >> Do both. 228 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:25,360 » Correct. Ah, you'll just be a bad person. 229 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:29,280 » Well, I'll be sorry. Which one? Which ones are you submitting? 230 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,559 » Well, you're submitting both. >> Yeah. And you can't be do that. So, I'm 231 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,080 going to You're going to have to figure out which ones you're drawing because 232 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:39,520 otherwise you're going to disqualify yourself out for both. 233 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,160 » Yeah. >> Let's just put it. I don't I don't think 234 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,320 they want to be on the phone to the lawyers going, "Now what?" [laughter] 235 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:49,520 » Yeah. >> I thought this was an academic thing 236 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,720 that >> Yeah. No. No, no. The the legislation 237 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:55,200 makes it really clear. >> No, thank you. [laughter] 238 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:59,039 » Okay. >> Well, the other thing is is if you're do 239 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:03,520 signing the de like you are signing a solemn declaration. 240 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:08,000 Um, and the thing is you may not like we would really appreciate it if you booked 241 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:12,720 an appointment so we can sit down and go through it with you in an unheard 242 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:16,080 manner. And so if there are any oopsies, oh, we need to correct [clears throat] 243 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:22,000 this and you have time to do that. We can go 244 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:27,360 through it. However, it does if you I'll show you it. If you want to send it in 245 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:32,640 by email all filled out, okay, we can't say no to it. We will 246 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:37,200 have received it, but you're going to have to have a commissioner for taking 247 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:41,440 affidavit in the province of British Columbia 248 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:48,679 watch your attestation, your sign your solemn declaration, which is page three 249 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:48,679 of document C2. 250 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:55,120 So you could have a notary or if you have a lawyer friend, they can do that 251 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:02,640 witnessing for you and you can just email it in again please before 4 p.m. 252 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:07,440 » But if it is signature doesn't have to happen in your presence. 253 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:11,120 » No, but it has to be it that declaration has to be sworn either in front of a 254 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,960 chief election officer, a deputy chief election officer or a commissioner for 255 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,400 taking over. No, no, I'm saying if you show up with your own papers, you you 256 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:22,080 can pre-sign it. >> No, no, you can't pre-sign. We'll just 257 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,360 make you sign your name again. Okay, >> because for there like if you go, oh, 258 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,280 you know, and I understand the enthusiasm. I used to ask for a 259 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:34,720 signature. I give you a signature. >> I get that. We'll just go, my friend. 260 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Sorry. Can you please sign over here a second time because this way we're 261 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:42,640 making that we're going to ask you to do that declaration to make it really 262 00:20:39,919 --> 00:20:46,640 clear. This is what you're signing up for. 263 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:50,720 and that and then we will fill out the paperwork. But as I said, if it's a 264 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:55,679 commissioner for taking affidavit, then they will put their signature where they 265 00:20:52,880 --> 00:21:01,679 are and the date that it happened. So it isn't impossible to submit your 266 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:05,919 nomination papers without having gone through the chief election officer, the 267 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:11,120 deputy chief election officer. It can be done. We're just saying we want to make 268 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:16,799 we want to help make sure that everybody who wants to run has the opportunity to 269 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:22,000 run and that things are taken care of. >> So if you show up September 3rd at 100 270 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,440 p.m. there'll be somebody there to watch you sign it. 271 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,679 » Yep. >> That everything's okay. So 272 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,919 » it's usually easier just call in. Kind of like booking an Uber. 273 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:32,799 » Okay. >> Cuz this way you know Yeah. that they're 274 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,840 not, you know, sneaking off for lunch or something. 275 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:37,200 » Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz they do [clears throat] get hungry. 276 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:40,159 » Yeah. [laughter] But yeah, no, they know if you say, 277 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,840 "Look, the only time I could get in is at 12:30." I'm quite certain. 278 00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:48,640 » Yeah, it's Ross and I will be taking care of that. 279 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:51,919 And so I mean, we're here Monday and Friday, but you know, sometimes you have 280 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,720 an appointment or you have to both. So yeah, ideally first. 281 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:59,520 » Yeah. >> Oh, and remember September 7th, the 282 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:01,679 office is closed, so nobody will be here to take that 283 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:03,200 » cuz Labor Day. >> Yeah, Labor Day. 284 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,360 » Oh, yeah. >> And maybe you're not. 285 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:11,440 » No, no, no. It will take probably 15 to 20 minutes at least, maybe more visits 286 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:16,799 mean it's my first time. So it'll be very like line by line making sure it's 287 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:20,720 accurate. So again, ideally you call say I'm going to come, you know, you know, 288 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,240 make an appointment that can be pretty flexible, but at least set aside more 289 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,080 than five minutes. >> Okay. I'm retired, so I'm pretty 290 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,480 flexible. [laughter] >> All right. Well, I'll talk about lect 291 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:37,200 stuff now that I really Oh, nomination papers. But you need to there you you'll 292 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:42,799 have more papers than you know what to do with. So there are some papers you 293 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:48,159 shall have to submit. Others it's like okay if they reapply. So that's why I 294 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:51,039 have two quotes. So the mandatory ones are well the cover sheet that's good 295 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:56,480 because it helps you go through make sure you didn't miss anything. C2 um I 296 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:01,600 don't know if any of you are planning to run as school trustees. So if you see CS 297 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,120 and the number, that's the documents that school trustee candidates 298 00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:09,280 [clears throat] would fill. I'm assuming most of you are here for council 299 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:14,880 council. So it's just C2. So you got to get C2 filled in, C3 filled in, which 300 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:21,120 has other information. Yes, you'll be writing the same details all the time. 301 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Just telling you in advance. Um if you have somebody else be your financial 302 00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:31,280 agent, C4 has to come in. And so what happens is is you have to appoint a 303 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:35,520 financial agent or somebody's going to be your financial agent. If you don't 304 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:40,559 say, "Hey, it's my bud doing it." Your bud agrees to it, your bud signs off on 305 00:23:37,679 --> 00:23:43,520 it, you're the financial agent. Okay? So don't worry. We'll ask you to clearly 306 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:47,520 indicate, are you going to keep your own books or somebody else going to do it 307 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:51,679 for you? Someone else does it for you. We need to see the paperwork of who it 308 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:55,440 is that they agree to it that you just didn't throw their name out. They got to 309 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:58,159 sign it cuz you never know. You don't know. I don't know how good your 310 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:01,760 friendships are, but we can't trust that. So, they're going to have to sign 311 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:06,320 their life away or just at least put their signature saying they'll be 312 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:09,679 helping you with the financials. Um, so that there's a statement of disclosure 313 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:16,159 and you'll see it says financial disclosure act and what it sets out is 314 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:22,559 these are all the various assets or liabilities or income or shares, 315 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:27,520 whatever you've got um as it pertains to being in Lion's Bay. And so that's a 316 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:32,480 document that you will have to fill out. Um if you're elected, you're going to do 317 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:36,640 it every January before January 15th every time anyways. Um and you're going, 318 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,400 "Well, why do we need to know that?" Well, that's how people know can figure 319 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:42,720 out whether you have a conflict in a trust. 320 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,000 » So if you own a second piece of everybody gets it, you got a house here 321 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,760 if you have a house here. Yeah, we get it. We're not asking about that when 322 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:55,200 we're asking do you own other property that we don't know about that's also in 323 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:59,760 your Alliance Bank and that. Okay. So, it's very basic information that's in 324 00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:05,840 there. Um, you know, if there's anything with um election signs, if applicable, 325 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,960 you may want somebody to help you run your campaign. You know, they used to 326 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,600 call them campaign managers. We call them official agents. 327 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:20,640 Going to make you fill out a form if you want people uh to observe what's 328 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:25,039 going on during election day because guess what? You don't get to hang out. 329 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,919 You come in, you vote, get out. That's simple. But if you you are welcome to 330 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:33,279 have somebody sit and watch the entire time or you may have different people in 331 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:39,360 there, but you can appoint what they call candidate representatives aka the 332 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:43,600 street mayors to observe what's going on. So any of the balloting process, 333 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,640 you're entitled to have someone there. You don't have to give us the forms 334 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,640 right away and you can make copies of C6. Um but they need to have a form 335 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:55,600 saying, "Yep, I'm here because the candidate said I'm here. 336 00:25:52,880 --> 00:26:01,200 Okay. So, we have paperwork for that. Um, there is a candidate information 337 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:06,000 relief authorization and what that is is a document like believe it or not you 338 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:11,200 have personal information and with that um where we while we have 339 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,200 the documents if you want to say hey you want to see 340 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:20,159 my election website or here's my election phone number or here's the 341 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:24,159 election email address to get me at. Well, that's great. But if you don't 342 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,159 give us authorization to say you can distribute it to the world, you know, 343 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:31,440 distribute it out. Someone calls up saying, "Hey, I'd like 344 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:35,600 the phone number for the candidate." And it's like, "Sorry, we don't have an 345 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:39,760 authorization. We can't do that." Okay. So, and we may as well talk a bit 346 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:45,600 about the privacy. I'm jumping ahead here, but um what will happen is that 347 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:53,440 when your doc we receive your documents, everything's ticky boot. Yes. Okay. We 348 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:56,799 will have to post um the C2 document, the basic nomination that says 349 00:26:55,248 --> 00:27:00,320 [clears throat] you have you're you're putting you put your name forward. We 350 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:04,159 pretty much have to do it shortly after you've submitted your nomination paper 351 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:09,840 so that people know what to protect people's privacy, yours 352 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:13,120 and the nominators. Um the only things that you're going to 353 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,559 you're going to see a couple black lines on it. Sorry, can't help it, but that's 354 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:22,400 the way we protect your information. We'll see your name. We'll see whatever 355 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:27,919 your jurisdiction of living is, your abode. So, I'm assuming mostly Lion's 356 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Bay, maybe Westband. No judgment. That your candidate, your nominators 357 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:37,200 will see their name. We'll see that it better be Lions Bay or it better be 358 00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:40,880 checking off that they're a non-resident property elector. But the other stuff 359 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,400 will be blacked out, including the signatures, because we need to protect 360 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:49,279 your privacy. There were a lot of problems actually last election which is 361 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:53,520 why legislation has gone in place to break out the black lines in particular 362 00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:57,200 with the school trustees and stuff with soji that happened about 40 years ago. A 363 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,919 lot of stuff like that. >> Oh, I'll let you. 364 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,399 » Okay. >> Why why in particular the signatures 365 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:05,840 though? >> Well, do uh we're looking at that with 366 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:09,279 the signatures is like do you want your signature getting uh copied and used all 367 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:11,679 over the place? >> Not really. No. 368 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:14,640 » Yeah, that's why we've got the signature. So all we have to show is the 369 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:17,520 name and jurisdiction. Everything else is getting to good old black line. 370 00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:21,440 » I've never been that good at copying signatures. So uh but I guess today with 371 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,760 CGI and everything else, it's not difficult. 372 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:26,080 » AI don't let it go. >> Yeah. 373 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:31,120 » So that's part of the thing with there. So yes, your domination documents in a 374 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,440 blacked out form will be on the website. If somebody comes booking it down to the 375 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:41,120 office and says, "I want to see the unredacted one," we make them sign a 376 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:45,600 form so we know who it was and they can see they'll see the C2 documents and the 377 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:51,840 statement of disclosure. That's all they're going to see in their unredacted 378 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:54,960 form. No photos, no photos. What am I saying? No copies are made. If they 379 00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:01,679 write the information down, well, we're not tackling for the pencil, but 380 00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:04,240 » you know, they can see the unredacted, but we make you work for it. 381 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,480 » Good for you. >> So, there you go. Well, it's rather the 382 00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:12,880 legislation makes you work for it. Okay. So, that's kind of a nomination uh 383 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:17,840 discussion. You good? >> Yep. 384 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:22,960 » Oh, boy. She get Hi, Russ's phone. Oops. Oh, me and my enthusiasm. 385 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:28,399 Okay, maybe I better let you handle this because I'm not doing 386 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:32,080 » Hello everybody. Sorry I'm late. >> That's all right. 387 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,399 » Oh dear. >> Is that Ross? Okay, 388 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,960 » here. I'll just >> Thank you. You take care of it. 389 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:42,799 » I'll do your slide. >> Thank you. Okay. So, as I said, the 390 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:47,760 campaign period starts up uh 28 days before um advertising and promoting 391 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:53,440 during this time are considered election expenses. So, what you need to do, 392 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,960 here's a piece of advice be uh on the day you submit your nomination 393 00:29:54,799 --> 00:30:00,880 documents, go down to the bank, you have to set up a separate bank account. Trust 394 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,120 me, it's going to make your life a lot easier for, you know, if elections BC 395 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:10,320 ever needs to see this stuff. Here's my elections account and have everything 396 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:14,799 funneling in through there. Um, are there any questions about the financing 397 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:20,880 or advertising election? We've got that information there for 398 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:23,840 you. third spot party sponsors. So they may not be part of your campaign, but 399 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,600 maybe there's someone in the community say, "Hey, vote for this candidate." 400 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:32,399 Well, guess what? They got to fill out forms with Elections BC and keep track 401 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:35,679 of elections expenses. It's just so you know what's going on. 402 00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:39,279 Um, but yeah, there's lots of requirements. Like for example, if you 403 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,200 have election signs, you have to have a sign saying, you know, here's who's 404 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,320 authorized this. Here's the contact information to get a hold of them on 405 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:51,520 their, you know, if they say vote for you, vote for you. You got to have that 406 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:55,360 little sponsorship line tag underneath. >> You can't put your, you know, as much as 407 00:30:53,360 --> 00:31:01,039 you love your signs, you cannot put them within 100 meters of the polling place, 408 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,720 which happens to be the hall. Just down, sorry, have I got the direction? 409 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,559 » Literally downstairs. downstairs. Okay. Not within 100 mters of the 410 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,880 building cuz we'll yank it. We'll take your signs. We'll give them back, but 411 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:17,360 better not be within 100 meters. Don't put it in the back of the window of the 412 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:21,840 car that you came in. Not a good idea cuz that puts it within 100 meters. 413 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,840 » Is it 100 meters of the crow flies? >> No, it's 100 meters from the meter from 414 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,520 the building. >> That's crow flies. 415 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:33,440 » Sure. >> We'll figure things out. We will let you 416 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,799 know. I'll tell I'll tell you why. The fence coming over the bridge, people 417 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,720 will like to put their signs there. It's typically allowed. 418 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,120 » Yeah. >> And and I don't think it's 100 419 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,519 » needs to be more than 100. If it's more than 100 meters, we don't have a good 420 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:51,519 time. If it's 100 meters, you got to have some fun when you're 421 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:57,840 doing this. So, um >> it's not as the crow flies. It's not as 422 00:31:54,799 --> 00:32:02,559 the crow flies, by the way. It's via the road network. 423 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:06,720 » Okay. I think that was the ruin. >> Okay. 424 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:11,679 » Well, there we go. Um, so the other thing is you got to be careful about ele 425 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:16,559 advertising on election day, you know, say for example, you have a Facebook 426 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:21,039 page and you say it's one thing on your Facebook page on election day or on 427 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,799 advanced voting day. Get out and vote. It's advanced voting day. It's election 428 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,760 day. It's another thing if you say get out and vote for me on those days. 429 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:35,279 That's advertising. The other is just information. Like I said, elections BC. 430 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,559 It's a real good idea to go through that sort of uh the information that they've 431 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:42,880 got there to help you with that. >> So, you could say that two days before, 432 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,240 » pardon? Oh, yeah. Two days before. >> Good. 433 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:51,600 » October 15th, have >> or October 5th, have 434 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:57,039 But you want to be careful about that sort of thing. So, just saying campaign. 435 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:01,360 Oh, yeah. Like I said, you need account for that. An account for that. Went to 436 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:04,960 open it as soon as practical. Even if you personally are get putting your hand 437 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:09,200 in your pocket, pulling out the money, slapping it down, saying, "Hey, I want 438 00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:13,679 to use that to buy, you know, buy my signs or whatever." Got to keep track of 439 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:18,080 it. You need that account open. Okay? Even if you have no expenses, cuz I have 440 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:22,240 seen some candidates, they don't they don't spread nothing. Okay? You still 441 00:33:20,159 --> 00:33:27,519 have to fill out all the paperwork. It makes Alexa happy. [clears throat] So, 442 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:32,559 yeah. Uh so if you pay an expense, if you get a transfer, any surplus funds 443 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:37,120 previously, there are limits as you can see. Uh you can't spend more than 444 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:41,720 $12,323 if you're running for mayor or $6,161. 445 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:49,440 Yep. And then anonymous contributions and more than $50 is prohibited. So if 446 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:55,360 they want us to give you $49 and say, "But don't say what my name is," that's 447 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,679 okay. as soon as it's 50 or $50 or more, you cannot receive an anonymous 448 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:01,679 contribution. >> What happens if it is truly anonymous 449 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:06,640 and you have no idea where it came from? >> Uh for if it's more than 50, 450 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,879 » my suggestion would be not to take it because this is something 451 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:16,159 » Well, no, it's just a long time ago there was an incident 452 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:20,879 where it just turned up in somebody's mailbox in an envelope. 453 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:25,119 » And what you said for your campaign? >> Okay. Um, under these things, I would 454 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,280 not be accepting it. I would bring it into the 455 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:30,399 » Well, that's the thing. Just bring it in. 456 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:35,520 » Yeah. Bring it in and say, "I got this >> and run the other direction because um 457 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:39,599 if you start accepting it, no." And it wasn't that. I just wanted to see if 458 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,440 there was a mechanism for dealing with that. So, bring it in and say, "This 459 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:47,440 arrived. Don't know what to do with it." >> Yeah. Just hand it over and we can do we 460 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:49,839 can chat with Elections VC. As long as you're not taking it and putting in your 461 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:55,240 account, that's >> Listen, it says more than 50, by the 462 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,240 way, not more than 49. 463 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:03,079 » More than 50. 464 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:09,119 » Yeah, it's >> just touch just because I will be 465 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:12,720 sharing this as a resource. Um why the trusty is just so much higher. Sometimes 466 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,880 people that can walk. >> Yeah, it does. It caught me off guard 467 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:21,280 going what? Uh it's because it's all in West Vancouver. It's not a situate 468 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,560 you're electing C the school trustees for West Vancouver because the 469 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:31,599 municipality is running the election on behalf of the school district. So it's 470 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:35,680 like a satellite satellite polling station but the people who are running 471 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:41,520 are running for the entire one. you don't have like for example I'll pick on 472 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:48,640 Belera um in Kquitlam they have theirs carved into electoral areas 473 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:52,960 belera and anort only can vote for one trustee so that person's going to have 474 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:57,119 to file their paperwork there and what have you and then with the other ones 475 00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:02,480 for Kquitlam Poco and and the other one I'm missing um they have the limited 476 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:06,880 number and so in the Kquitlam school district there will always be the school 477 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:11,920 trustee for Cara add more because that's the Toral 478 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:18,560 area board. This one it's uh it's at large all the 479 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:23,680 school trustees are for West Vancouver from here to Westb everyone there. So 480 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:30,320 because it's West Vancouver school district that's why it's 24,000. 481 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:34,880 » So the person who let's I think there was five people being elected for Yeah. 482 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,839 They're going to be part, let's say. Is that all of West Van is the five people 483 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:43,040 or is that just a Okay. So, they're not going to have like five from West Van 484 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,359 and five from here. It's all going to be one. 485 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:49,040 » No, no, no. Like I said, it's it's an atlarge election as opposed to electoral 486 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,839 areas. >> Okay. 487 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:59,280 » Okay. Finance. Oops, I skipped by number 13. Election advertising. 488 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:02,880 Um the idea with that it's a transmission 489 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:07,440 to the public by any means during the campaign period. That's why we care 490 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:12,320 about the campaign period uh for that. So it prom you know either promoting 491 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:17,359 directly and in uh indirectly um for a candidate or against candidate. 492 00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:21,280 So if somebody specifically says I don't want this person elected. I'm going to 493 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:26,560 run my own campaign against that person. Guess what? sign up with Elections BC 494 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:31,200 and guess what? You got to do all the same paperwork 495 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:36,079 as if you were a candidate. So, that's just the way it is. Um, so things that 496 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,920 it doesn't include are listed there as well for your general information. I'm 497 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:44,800 not going to go tons in that cuz you guys actually want to get home at some 498 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:50,640 point. Yes. Okay. Financial agents. Thou shalt have one. 499 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:55,839 Either it's you or um it's somebody else. uh you can have only one at any 500 00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:59,839 time. You may have a situation where you've had to uh there may be a 501 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:04,480 situation if you were running slakes like we see in Vancouver and that which 502 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:10,320 is several candidates have the same financial agent. That's not a problem, 503 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:15,599 but each candidate can only have one financial agent. So, it can be you or 504 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:19,040 yourself. Um if the other person's the a uh agent, there are specific 505 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:22,960 requirements for the appointment, aka it's in writing. That's why we got a 506 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:28,640 form for it. Uh full name, effective date, contact information, candidate 507 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,280 signed it, the agent to be has signed it uh to make it there. And that's got to 508 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:36,240 be delivered before the end of the nomination period because elections BC 509 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:40,640 wants to know who they dealing with. Okay. So, wow. Let's get us to what 510 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:45,200 happens before the ele before voting day. 511 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:51,200 Um communications with staff. The standard that election staff is going by 512 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:55,280 is fair, transparent, and neutral. So the idea is that we're going to teach 513 00:38:53,440 --> 00:39:00,160 we're going to treat you exactly the same even if you're already an 514 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:04,720 incumbent. Sorry, you're just like every other candidate and that's how you will 515 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:09,200 be uh treated to ensure that fairness because we want people to have 516 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:14,240 confidence in our democratic process and so that's part of how we'll do it. 517 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:17,920 Absolutely. Um, so, uh, we will be a condu conduit for you for information. 518 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:22,720 If you've got questions about the process, ask us. And guess what? We'll 519 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:26,640 filter it out to everybody just to make sure that everybody's on the same page 520 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:30,320 that you all know because somebody may have asked a question and we go, "Oops, 521 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,800 we didn't, you know." Well, thank you very much. We want to make sure 522 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:38,000 everybody knows that. So, that's what we're going to be working hard there. 523 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:44,480 again with municipal staff ask it through uh the CEO and the CEO's 524 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:48,240 role not the CEO role he has you know just for communicating that 525 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:53,119 information to make sure that everybody that you know everyone's getting the 526 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:58,400 same answer. Um please do not use any logos, coats of arms, any of our 527 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:04,079 marketing slogans and that. Um, you can be your own candidate, but please do not 528 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:08,160 use municipal branding because that would imply that the 529 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:14,079 municipality is supporting you in that position and that's not in in to to be 530 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:18,800 fair and have a democratic process. There's no endorsement. That's how part 531 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:23,359 of how you protect that uh that perception. Um, place the signs 532 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:27,040 accordance with any bylaws. remove. Uh we will remove those signs if they're 533 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:33,359 within 100 meters on advanced voting day, general voting day. So if you have 534 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:39,400 it the day before up until 11:59 p.m., okay, it's there, but as soon as it hits 535 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,400 midnight, that baby better be down. 536 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:45,839 And that's um so like I said, careful with advertisements on voting days. And 537 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:52,320 you personally cannot be at the voting place except to vote. So it really is in 538 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:56,560 out. Your official agents can be, your scrutiners can be. Um, we're not letting 539 00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:03,119 you anywhere near until about 8:00 on vote on general voting night. Okay. 540 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:08,000 Uh, voting day, like I said, you can be there for the count. So, we while the 541 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:12,560 doors get shut precisely at 8:00 p.m., be there be, you know, 10 minutes before 542 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:16,560 so we can let you in. Um, and then we'll deal with that. No, 543 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:20,560 no more ballots. Let's just put it. No one else will be eligible to vote after 544 00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:25,040 8:00 p.m. If there are still people in the polling station, we will let them 545 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:29,920 finish. They will feel awkward cuz everybody's staring at them going, 546 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,280 "Hurry up and vote." Some of them may be like my husband sneaking in at the last 547 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:37,359 minute and getting the vote in and that's fine, but we all just sit there 548 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:41,680 and wait. But once that happens, then we will get everything going for there. Um, 549 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:46,480 the people will tabulate the votes. Just so you know, it is done as paper 550 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:50,720 ballots. So, it's going to be a hand count. So, we'll have it set up so that 551 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:56,160 people will do the hand counts and go through and that as I said, you and your 552 00:41:53,839 --> 00:42:00,480 C and a scrutiny are entitled to be there. If you just want your scrutiner, 553 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:05,440 that's fine, too. What you choose, but I can tell you right now, no electronics. 554 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:11,359 You do not go taping what's going on during the count. Bad. I've had that 555 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:15,760 happen before and it's not a fun time. I'll sit there. It's like, "Okay, delete 556 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:21,680 the video and we ain't counting anymore till that's cleaned up." I can wait all 557 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,440 night. I'm still getting paid. And I have had that happen before. I've 558 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:31,440 also had to call RCMP before. Don't want to do that. As I said, preliminary 559 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,640 results only that night. Um, but we usually have a lot of faith. 560 00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:38,160 And somebody says, "Well, what happens if it's a tie?" Well, I can guarantee 561 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:42,720 you right now we're not counting again that night 562 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:48,240 cuz everybody tired. So, it would be as I said when we do the reconciliation, we 563 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:54,720 will go through that and see what the result if it upon reconciliation and a 564 00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:58,480 recount on the that Monday morning. Um, if it's still a tie, then we go to the 565 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,319 courts and the recount and the judge goes, 566 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:06,960 "Yep, you got a tie. Guess what? How are we going to resolve it?" So, your 567 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:11,280 election there's um I believe it's a male ballot or it's a bylaw. If it's 568 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:17,599 still a tie when you're before the courts, guess what? Name out a hat. 569 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:22,160 Literally, it's by law. But yeah, uh judicial recounts do 570 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:26,079 happen. But like I said, we that's why we want to go through the paperwork very 571 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:30,000 carefully and make sure everything is where it needs to be. So, as I said, 572 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,200 please yank your signs out. All of your signs, get them down within 3 days 573 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:39,440 afterwards. the election's over. Um, if you're 574 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:43,599 elected, inaugural meeting where you'll take the oath. But as I said, in the 575 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:48,880 meantime, from the 17th of October to November 3rd, the old council is still 576 00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:53,200 in place. That does not continue. That's part of the continuity with that. I 577 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,599 believe there are no meetings scheduled. >> Uh, no, there are. 578 00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,319 » Okay. Um, so, but obviously there's going to be a lot of consideration what 579 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,400 does and does not go there and recognizing that. Yeah. 580 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:08,880 You know, some of it is just usually you're dealing with stuff with that just 581 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:13,040 absolutely cannot wait. Okay. And whether you're elected or not, Elections 582 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:17,200 BC will be making a phone call saying, "Give us the final of your campaign 583 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:21,599 financing accounts." So, it's usually up to about 90 days 584 00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:28,400 after you've got to get it uh get it into them. When the 90 days expired, 585 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:33,440 you're late. You pay a penalty um for that. So, you got another 30, you 586 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:36,960 know, penalty in another 30 days. After 120 days, if you still said, I can't be 587 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:42,680 bothered with the paperwork, you're disqualified from running in the next 588 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,680 election. 589 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:50,880 » It's just some serious stuff. So, there's that. Um, like I said, our 590 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:56,880 concern is being neutral and making sure that everybody h that the process is 591 00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,079 done in fair transparently. Um, so we are going to do things such as maintain 592 00:44:58,319 --> 00:45:03,599 the confidentiality of the vote. If we have to help somebody in the voting 593 00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:08,400 booth, that's fine, but don't ask us how they voted. We're not telling you uh 594 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:12,160 with that. Um, you know, and we're going to have to require your associates to 595 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:16,079 assist with that. So, when the scrutiners or your official agent, if 596 00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:20,480 they're in the polling station doing that observation, they're going to fi 597 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:23,599 sign a declaration saying, "Yeah, I'm not going to try to influence this. I'm 598 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:28,880 not going to help. I'm just here to observe." we make them sign that that uh 599 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,920 to hold them to that uh level of efficiency. But the important thing is 600 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:37,200 we are here to help you with the process. So if you got questions, do not 601 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:41,440 be afraid to ask. Um you know, we will have election officials, other people 602 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:46,079 helping us with that. Don't be afraid to ask the questions. Uh usually it's 603 00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:48,800 probably easier to go with uh CEO, chief election officer or deputy chief 604 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:54,560 election officer because the election officers say go see them anyways. 605 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:57,920 But that's okay. So, um the other thing is is that uh because of the way things 606 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,520 are set up with that, we're not going to be should there be allegations of 607 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:06,560 election offenses and that or imposing penalties. Um that's unfortunately where 608 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:12,720 we have to call the police to do the investigations for that. Hopefully that 609 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:16,720 will not happen. Social media. Next one. Um whether you want to use it or not, 610 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:21,680 your choice. How you want to use it. We're ain't telling you how to do it. 611 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:28,319 We're just telling you the village is not responsible for your social media. 612 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:32,400 Um, but be careful what you say because you know things there's no how to put 613 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:37,680 it. There's no immunity for flagging your 614 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:43,119 flagging the other candidates or saying nasty things or defamatory things. 615 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:47,720 There's no immunity. So keep classy. Won't be a problem. 616 00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:54,880 So or two. Yeah. Okay. What does it mean to be an election elected official? All 617 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:58,720 right, let's go. Um, believe it or not, the legislation does have this is the 618 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,640 job description. They call it responsibilities under the legislation, 619 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:06,480 but you know, consider the interests and well-being of the community, contribute 620 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:12,720 to the developing of policies and programs with services. Uh, participate. 621 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:16,400 It means actually go to the meetings. You may not talk, but you can. We we 622 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,800 expect you there. Okay. And then to carry out any other 623 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:26,000 duties, the organization is collectively assigned. But it goes beyond that. The 624 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,760 idea is that you're helping to provide that leadership. You're helping to say 625 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:34,640 this is how we're going to spend our financial resources with it. Um this is 626 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,079 what we're going to do with the resources that we have to best serve 627 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:41,839 that community. The community we're good. You you're representing the 628 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:46,319 citizens, especially if you're at various other organ uh events. you're 629 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:50,400 engaging with the community that so it's a it's more than just what you saw 630 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,480 listed in their legislation which doesn't sound exciting. So this is the 631 00:47:52,319 --> 00:48:00,800 more exciting stuff. um the role of the mayor. Um this is the 632 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:05,440 additional responsibilities on slide 23. Um about that they're going to be the 633 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,880 spokesperson. Um they're going to be leading that. They're going to be 634 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,640 chairing the meetings and have that responsibility for uh doing that. 635 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:16,079 They're going to they can create standing committees, committees that go 636 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,839 forever and do the appointments for that. And they're going to communicate 637 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:25,440 through staff with the chief administrative officer CAO. 638 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:29,760 Um, most municipalities in British Columbia operate on what they call the 639 00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:34,960 one employee system. That's what your CEO is. That's your point you go through 640 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:39,119 to get to for the rest of the staff. The CEO is going to be the one who's 641 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,960 directing the work and reporting back to council and has that kind of 642 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:48,000 responsibility. That's your connection to the rest of the organization. I'm not 643 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,839 saying you can't talk to others, but the more that you can work with the CEO and 644 00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:56,960 it's just going to make it go a little easier. All right. Uh expectations for 645 00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:04,319 the roles. I won't read it out, but the idea with that is that 646 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:10,160 you know there's an expectation of um finding a way to work with others in a 647 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:13,920 responsible positive manner. So, as I said, there's a variety of things being 648 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:20,319 open to changing that. I'll let you review that at your leisure with these. 649 00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:25,119 Okay. So, over to the overview of authority because what you're going to 650 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:30,720 find is there's order to how the legislation 651 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:34,480 works. So, if the community charter or the local government act says this is 652 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:38,880 how you roll, that's the way you're rolling. If it says um the community 653 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,960 charter says, "Hey, you may do something." Well, then you're you can 654 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:47,839 enact bylaws that says this is how we're going to do these things 655 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:52,240 um with the authority we've been granted under the legislation. Um you may also 656 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:56,559 have some policies to support your bylaws and then of course there's always 657 00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:01,200 the procedures that staff go through. But what there is is always a need for 658 00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:05,680 alignment that you're you can't do anything in the procedures, policies or 659 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:11,520 bylaws that uh is in conflict with the legislation. Legislation reigns supreme. 660 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:17,119 We work around it. Don't worry, staff going to help you with that. Um 661 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:22,880 delegation of power because the general rule of thumb legally speaking is that 662 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:27,359 if you've been delegated authority, you can't pass it on to somebody else to do. 663 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:33,440 Okay, that's the general thing under administrative law. Um because the 664 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:37,839 province has said municipalities through the legislation, you can do these 665 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:43,119 things. You would assume that it's only council can do it. Legislation goes, 666 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:46,640 yeah, there the exception is well, if the legislation says you can delegate it 667 00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:50,400 to somebody else, we'll let you delegate it to somebody else. Um and that's 668 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:56,800 exactly what's happened is that the legislation says look you can develop 669 00:50:53,839 --> 00:51:00,800 delegate to staff different committees what have you. You can't delegate to a 670 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:06,000 corporation but um you can do delegation but there 671 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:11,520 are certain things you can't delegate. Only council can pass bylaws. Only 672 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:14,880 council can um you know if it's had certain matters where it says council 673 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,559 must do it, you can't redelegate to somebody else. Um, but you can put some 674 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:23,520 terms and conditions on the things you can do. So, your legislative powers to 675 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:28,640 enact laws, you're the only ones who can do it. So, staff may advise you, you're 676 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:33,200 the only ones who can pass the bylaws. Okay. So, as I said in the next couple 677 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:38,720 slides, it's very specific about what it can be delegated, to whom it can be 678 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:42,400 delegated, and on slide 28, um, it's saying these are what the limits are. 679 00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:48,400 So, sorry, you're not that that's still at the council table. 680 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:54,880 And don't worry about memorizing any of that right now because what's going to 681 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:59,599 happen is should you be elected, staff is going to have some training for you 682 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:04,800 and help you get used to your job and what's expected with that. So you're not 683 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:09,440 going to just be thrown in, hey, here's your first meeting. Figure it out. No, 684 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:15,040 staff's going to help you and give you the information you need. Okay? So no 685 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:19,599 worries. Um, but just to give you a bit of an overview, staff is always going to 686 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:23,119 be looking for um, this is why meetings are so important because that's where 687 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:27,760 staff goes. Where do we get the authorization from council to go forth 688 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:32,079 and do something? And so either you're passing motions that said staff go do 689 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:37,280 something or you're passing a bylaw saying this is how it's going to be done 690 00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:41,839 staff. That's the only way you enact your authority is in a properly convened 691 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:46,960 meeting with enough people voting in favor of it for something to happen. 692 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:51,520 Okay? So, as much as you may you may be the only one who goes, "Please, please, 693 00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:56,880 please let us do this." Staff is always looking for where did it say council 694 00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:02,720 said we can do this. Okay? And they're not being cheeky about it. That's that's 695 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:06,319 how we legally track your authority is through what happens in the meetings. 696 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:09,920 That's why meetings are so critical uh that it's been done. Uh thing to 697 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:13,440 remember with committees, they're great. They're really helpful. They can do a 698 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:20,079 lot of cool things. Yes, some things can be delegated to, but their general rule 699 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:23,520 is to provide advice to council. So, you could have a committee on a particular 700 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:28,319 topic and they say, "Council, you really should do this." That's a piece of 701 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:31,920 information for you to consider and you may still say that's great idea. 702 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:37,680 However, there are all these other concerns. So we say no to that. Sorry 703 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:43,119 committee. Appreciate your hard work, but you're the ones ultimately 704 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:46,480 responsible. So you need to be free to make those decisions even if the 705 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:51,280 committee saying you really really should do this. Okay. So [clears throat] 706 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,040 as council, you're respon you're the decision makers. You're setting the 707 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:58,240 vision. Um you're going to be the leaders for the organizations. As I 708 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,960 said, committees, they're advisory bodies to council. 709 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,559 um without staff. It's really kind of funny because before the meeting or at 710 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,440 the start of the meeting, they're going to do reports. They're going to be your 711 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:13,599 policy advisors. They're going to say from a technical point of view, we need 712 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:17,760 you to think about this when making this decision. That's why we recommend this 713 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:22,720 decision. But what they recognize is ultimately you have the authority to 714 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:26,720 decide. So whatever you decide, even if it isn't what staff recommended, 715 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,640 you know, say for example, there were three options. Staff recommends option 716 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,720 A. And when you're discussing it around the table, you're going well, you know, 717 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,880 considering this, this, and this, I we think option B is the better one. So 718 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:44,240 that's what gets enacted. Staff goes, okay, they after the 719 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,280 meeting, they switch on their hat. They switch hats and they say, okay, we've 720 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:51,599 given you the information, we gave you the advice, you said do this, that's 721 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:57,040 what we're going to make happen. So they will implement based on your directions 722 00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,800 for that. Uh, one thing staff is not going to be a participant in the bay 723 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,680 debate as if they're there. They may provide you advice. They may say, "Hey, 724 00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:09,599 we really think you need to think about this, but they're not there to 725 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:14,319 figure out the merits. They'll provide you information, but it's ultimately for 726 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:18,800 cats to make that decision." Okay, what else I got? So, yeah, just to give you 727 00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:23,520 an idea what a healthy relationship looks like versus unhealthy. Um, you see 728 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:27,760 that little circle there? That's the nexus point where council's meeting up 729 00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:32,880 with the CEO for the work. When council starts digging in the weeds, 730 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,839 that gets some blurring. Staff's going, "Well, are we supposed to be doing 731 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:39,920 this?" Council's, you know, what's going on here? And then when staff starts 732 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:43,280 going, "Oh, yeah. We're the ones make the decision." So, they're making the 733 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:49,920 decision that we It's a problem. So, it's a balancing act. Uh, but staff, I'm 734 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:54,000 quite confident, understand what they can. Let's be honest. If it's coming 735 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:58,000 before council at a council meeting, it's cuz staff knows we're not the ones 736 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:02,480 to be in the position to make this decision. That's why they're coming to 737 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:06,799 it's coming to council. Okay. 738 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:10,880 Pitfalls. Yeah, conflict of interest. They happen. We'll talk about that in a 739 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:15,520 few slides. There's the pecuniary. Show me the money versus the relationship 740 00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:20,494 ones. Depending on the type of conflict of interest, it can have an impact on 741 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,839 what happens with the decision. >> [clears throat] 742 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:28,640 » that if the decision could get thrown up with the conflict of interest, gifts. 743 00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:33,599 There's no such thing as a free lunch in that you have to be mindful and you will 744 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:38,240 have to record if you're receiving gifts of certain values. 745 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,720 So that's part of the thing cuz people want to know, hey, what's what's going 746 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:47,440 on? So there, as you'll discover, there's paperwork for that. and 747 00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:52,079 confidentiality. That's to keep it to yourself because especially in closed 748 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:58,319 meetings, you're going to hear a lot of things that could be put the 749 00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:01,119 municipality in an awkward position should that information be released. 750 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,040 Like that's why you're having it in closed meeting is to have that 751 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:10,480 discussion to make sure it's in the benefit of it. So the expectation is 752 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,760 only the you know, you're only talking enclosed. you're you're not talking to 753 00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:19,760 anybody else about it. Like, hey, did you know we're going to buy that piece 754 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:24,799 of property? No. Bad. Don't. So, close meetings. Don't worry. We got 755 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:29,200 more for that. Like I said, for um if you are consider yourself to be in a 756 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,839 conflict of interest. So, let's say it's a there's a reasonzoning application. 757 00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:36,880 It's not your reasoning. Well, it could be your reasoning application. Guess 758 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,599 what? You're in a conflict of interest because how can you make a decision? Go. 759 00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:44,799 Of course, you're going to say, "Yes, I want that new zone." But what if you 760 00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:50,079 happen to be the neighbor to a person who's got an application in 761 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:54,000 front of you, the zoning one? Well, it could mess with your stuff. You probably 762 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:58,240 should be decl You need to declare a conflict of interest. I'm the neighbor 763 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:02,799 to this person here. It's going to be a problem. So, what you will happen is is 764 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,280 you're going to make the declaration in a council meeting. You got to do it 765 00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:09,040 every time it comes up to council meeting. Say, "Yep, conflict of 766 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,079 interest. I'm the neighbor and you have to physically remove yourself. So, you 767 00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:16,400 get to wait outside. Hopefully, it's not a rainy day or I don't know where do you 768 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:21,839 send people for Oh, you get the penalty box in the back. Door closed. You don't 769 00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:26,799 get to listen in um to allow everybody else who's eligible to deal with the 770 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:30,640 issue, to deal with the issue, make the decision. Like I said, you got to make 771 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:33,520 it each and every time. Why? Because we don't do carry over from the minute 772 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:39,119 saying, "Oh, yeah, by the way, do you remember so and so had a conflict?" You 773 00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:43,440 do it every time, every meeting. Okay. Uh once you've made that de declaration, 774 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,319 you're not going to stay in the meeting because if you're in the room, you're 775 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,839 deemed to be voting. If you don't tell us how you vote, you're deemed to be 776 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,720 voting in favor. That's why you got to get out of the room. So if you're not in 777 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,720 the room, you're not deemed to be voting. 778 00:58:54,319 --> 00:59:00,480 Um you can't participate in it. You're not voting on it. And you can't talk to 779 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:05,599 your your other friends around the table saying, "Hey, I'd really like it if you 780 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:10,799 could." No, it's the the new silence not talking to anybody else about that. 781 00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:14,319 Um, however, if it does impact you, you can still have somebody speak on your 782 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:18,240 behalf. >> If you know, like say for example, you 783 00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:21,839 were the applicant, you can't be in the room, but you could have, you know, your 784 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:28,400 general contractor or somebody in there to speak on your behalf for that. Okay. 785 00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:33,839 So that uh conflict of uh types like I said pecuniary that's the show me the 786 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:38,720 money pen direct or indirect um the bias one is the personal interest 787 00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:42,799 because it suggested you have a close bond and it could be a positive 788 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:47,280 relationship or a negative relationship I joke if it uh it could be your current 789 00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:51,520 spouse or it could be your ex spouse any way you look at it you got a vested 790 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:57,359 interest in how this plays out so that's a relationship one um what if uh that 791 00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:01,440 happens to be former client of yours. You know, it may not be money, but there 792 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:08,000 could be that sort of thing. So, the idea is that um you want to be mindful. 793 01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:13,839 You got questions, ask stuff. Um now, there are some that they recognize um 794 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:20,000 that are exempt from being called conflict of interest. For example, 795 01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:24,559 voting on the budget to raise taxes. Yeah, your pocketbook's going to take a 796 01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:27,599 hit, but so is everybody else. So they recognize, well, if you everybody 797 01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:31,599 declared a conflict of interest because it's going to raise more taxes, nobody'd 798 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,880 be there to vote. So that's one of those things. Also, 799 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:39,920 another thing when it comes to council remuneration, again, everyone would make 800 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:44,480 a declaration, there'd be nobody left to vote. So those are things that are in 801 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,799 the legislation. Or they say, "Look, it's so remote. It's kind of like a 802 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:54,079 butterfly flapping swings in Peru." Yeah. No. 803 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:59,280 My suggestion is if you when in doubt, get out. 804 01:00:56,079 --> 01:01:03,119 But I digress. So, as I said, there are a variety of 805 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,319 exceptions there. Campaigning contributions, which is what I want to 806 01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:10,559 get to, in of themselves don't necessarily create a conflict of 807 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:15,760 interest. It's going to be looking at the uh like what is there. So if it's 808 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:21,359 the $51 from that person, it's like really sorry, you could be bought for 51 809 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:25,040 bucks. Really? You know, that's what I mean. So they're looking at the context. 810 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:31,520 They're looking at the reception of it. So we're here to help you with that. But 811 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:38,160 the horse, it's ahead of the cart. And then like I said with non-puniary, which 812 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:45,280 is bias. Uh the thing is pecuniary kills if it can be proven kills the decision. 813 01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:50,160 That can be a problem. Um the uh biased one, yeah, can affect the decision, but 814 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:55,119 if there's still enough people around, it might not be such a problem. But when 815 01:01:52,480 --> 01:02:00,720 it's money, it's a problem. Okay, so that's that. Now, [clears throat] what 816 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:04,960 happens? So, you got yourself elected, huh? 817 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:10,240 What can you what can you expect? I'd say things you took for granted. The 818 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:13,920 10-minute shopping trip, just going in to get some milk. If they know you're an 819 01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:17,920 elected official and they've got you cornered right by the eggs and the milk, 820 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:21,359 you're not getting away. No. And I mean that's in fairness 821 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:25,359 because the thing is it's the accessibility to the public. That's what 822 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:30,960 people appreciate about local government is like I can see my mayor. I can see my 823 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:34,960 elected officials. I'm just saying is don't be surprised if you thought, yeah, 824 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:39,680 I'm going in for five minutes and you get cornered because somebody wants to 825 01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:44,240 know what's going on. No surprise. Okay. Or at least you've 826 01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:50,480 been told. Um, privacy, you still have it to some degree, but what you may find 827 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:55,440 is that, you know, like what you post on your Facebook page, if you have one, who 828 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:58,799 knows how that's going to play out. And they may say, well, you know, the 829 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,720 municipality says this, when it was just a passing comment on your Facebook page. 830 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:07,760 So, you may want to be circumspect about what you put on there. Uh, the ability 831 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:10,720 to con um to comment freely on certain matters. Like I said, people will look 832 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,559 and they'll say as soon as they hear you saying something that's municipally 833 01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:18,880 related, even if it's your own brilliant of I think we should do this. Some 834 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:22,640 people will take it assume make that assumption that it's your that it's the 835 01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:28,319 municipality's position, not necessarily your personal 836 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:32,799 position with that. Um free time. Well, yeah, there's going to be less of it 837 01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:36,400 because there are a number of things that will be involved, not just the 838 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:40,000 meetings and that. um how you're treated. 839 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,559 I thought you were my butt and all of a sudden no, you're not my butt or you 840 01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:49,839 were never my butt and now you're my butt. Really? Um it it's just one of 841 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:54,319 those things that some people may you may be treated by some people 842 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:58,880 differently and it's not necessarily anything you've done. You just happen to 843 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:03,440 be the elected official. So I guess that's where thick skins come in. Um the 844 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:06,960 ability to not know something. You may feel, "Oh, I got to know everything 845 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:11,359 that's going on in municipality." No, you just have to know who to call. 846 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:16,480 So, don't worry. If someone says, "Hey, what are you going to do about the 847 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:20,160 pothole in front of my house?" I don't know. Let me put you in contact 848 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:24,559 with the person in the or the person in the 849 01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:28,720 organization that deals with it because we you please don't feel you have to 850 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:33,200 know everything that's going on. It's okay not to know. You just have to say, 851 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:38,079 "Let me find out who I can put you in contact if you don't know." Does, you 852 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,839 know, somebody asks you a question, what's the compulsion? Answer the 853 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,960 question. But it's okay to say you don't know. 854 01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:49,680 Keeps you out of more hot water, not like uh and to be able being able to 855 01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:53,359 focus on one issue only. Maybe there was one thing you really campaigned on like 856 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:59,440 I this needs to change. You're going to be expected to be um have concerned for 857 01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:05,520 more than that that one issue. All right. So, impact on family and friends. 858 01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:10,400 Um, you may want to have conversation with your significant other, your 859 01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:15,920 family, because it's going to it'll impact your family. Um, I'm certain my 860 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:19,760 friend Terry won't mind. Uh, she ran for council and her and I went, she goes, "I 861 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:24,319 want to go for lunch." Okay, fine. We went for lunch. She said, "Okay, what am 862 01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:26,960 I getting myself into?" And I said, "Well, are you going to have a 863 01:05:25,359 --> 01:05:30,480 conversation with Bob, her husband?" She goes, "About what?" I said, "Is he going 864 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:34,720 to be comfortable being Mr. Terry James?" 865 01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:38,480 Because you, you know, that's the sort of thing. Is he going to be comfortable 866 01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:42,319 with the political pot shots that people are going to be because the, you know, I 867 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:46,640 don't know about you, I protect my family and I'm going to go at you if 868 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:50,960 you're going after my family. You may not be able to do so. You know, am I is 869 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:54,400 he going to be able to fre, you know, can Bob freely comment on what he wants 870 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:58,480 to on Facebook? She goes, "Well, he's not on Facebook." Well, there you you 871 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:02,079 know, problem solved. But it's that sort of thing is that, you know, is this, you 872 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:05,520 know, is your spouse being there or are they cornering your spouse? I don't like 873 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,720 the decisions council made. What are you going to get your spouse to do 874 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:12,960 differently? So, it's one of those things there. Um, 875 01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:17,200 you know, how involved I said, well, how many times do you want Bob to show up at 876 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:22,240 the meetings or to show up at events because there are a lot of events. And 877 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:26,799 she said, I don't know. I said, well, okay. You know, volunteer banquet, 878 01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:31,520 probably good time for Bob to be there. Christmas party probably a good time to 879 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:35,440 be there. But for any of the other devs around the community, does Bob need to 880 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:39,680 be there? I guess not. Well, then you need to let 881 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:42,960 Bob know that. So, you know, that was the sort of 882 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,400 conversations that they had. What's involved 883 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,680 um with that there? And then just, you know, try as best you can to keep the 884 01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:54,319 political separate from your life. You're still a human being that has a 885 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:58,720 life. And while this is an important part of your life, you still have your 886 01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:04,000 family to worry about too. So time committed, it's more than just 887 01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:07,680 meetings. So council meetings, they can be open and closed meeting. They could 888 01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:11,839 be oops, we have to have a special or an ad hoc meeting because something came 889 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:16,559 up. We can't wait till the next time. Um other me so meetings outside the 890 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:20,480 register schedule. The expectation is that you are to attend. If you wind up 891 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:25,039 missing so I think four consecutive meetings in a row, you can be deemed to 892 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:29,280 be disqualified unless the council has given you a pass on that like with a 893 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:32,640 resolution saying, "Yeah, we know." Um I've seen that happen with elected 894 01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:36,079 officials who unfortunately become very ill and were hospitalized. So council 895 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,839 passed a resolution saying, "No, they're not. They're hospitalized. We know they 896 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,960 won't be in attendance. We're giving them that pass." So you need to worry 897 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:47,920 about that. Committees. Um committee of the whole. That's when council meets 898 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:50,160 together and basically is talking to itself going, "What do you think we 899 01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:53,039 should do? I don't know. What do you think we should do?" It's not a regular 900 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:57,680 council meeting because you can't go off and do it, but it's kind of like your 901 01:07:55,039 --> 01:08:01,599 brainstorming sessions. Um, somebody's going to be acting mayor. 902 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,920 Everybody around the table's got, you know, when are you going to fill in when 903 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:12,240 the mayor can't be here? So, there's that uh there. Maybe you're filling in 904 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:16,640 um Burr as a director for Metro Vancouver in case the regular person you 905 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:21,600 may it's usually your mayor. Oops. If the mayor can't make it to the Metro Man 906 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:25,359 meetings, you may be in there with that. So, yeah, there's a variety of other 907 01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:29,440 things you may be doing. So, by the way, your term of office, it's four years, 908 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:36,640 just so you're not surprised. Starts November 2026 and it ends November 30, 909 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:41,279 2030. It's a four-year term. All right. So, I think we're almost kind of sorted 910 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:46,080 there. Uh, responsibility is not legislation. Um, 911 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:50,719 it's really requiring a skill set of being curious 912 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:55,040 and asking questions and wanting to know and being willing to listen. Um, if I 913 01:08:53,520 --> 01:09:00,080 can offer a piece of advice, being prepared for every meeting as best you 914 01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:03,920 can, um, is going to make it a lot easier for you. It's going to help your 915 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:08,239 comfort level um, being there. And don't worry for the 916 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:12,640 first few months you're going, "Wow, this is like if you've never been 917 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:16,799 before, you may be going, "Oh, crackers. I don't know what I'm doing." It's okay. 918 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,520 Just ask for help. Back to my good friend Terry. I mean, she had been 919 01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:23,359 involved with so many committees and everything else. And she goes, she goes, 920 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:27,440 "I" she goes, "I still," she goes, "6 months in," she goes, "Still in what I'm 921 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:32,880 doing." You're doing fine, Terry. Just ask questions. So, it's that sort of 922 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:36,960 thing. Staff is here to help you succeed. 923 01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:42,640 So take some comfort. You're you're the other members around the table are here. 924 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:46,239 Like you I mean the five of you will be in a unique position that nobody else is 925 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,679 in. They're going to be help you know 926 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:54,000 hopefully you want to help each other get through it because nobody quite 927 01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:59,440 understands exactly what you're in like the other ones around the table. 928 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:05,040 Okay. So did I have more? Apparently I have more responsibilities. Um, the idea 929 01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:08,800 is keep your keep your mind open. You know, you I'm not saying you can't have 930 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:14,880 an opinion on something, but be willing to hear what else is there to it. Um, 931 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:20,320 because that's one thing that's going to be making it a lot easier for you. Um, 932 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:24,320 like I said, the CEO is responsible for delegating work to the staff in 933 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:28,560 accordance with your direction and any strategic plan. So, you don't have to 934 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:36,960 worry about getting in the weeds. That's the CEO's problem with that there. Um, 935 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:41,199 so I guess to the irony of the election, it's kind of like if you remember 936 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:44,320 Gilligans Island, you're all stuck on an island trying to make things work or the 937 01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:49,040 first three days of Survivor. Something a little more current at least this 938 01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:53,600 century is that for the first three days is like you think about it, you've 939 01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:58,000 competed against each other to get to these position. Now that you're elected, 940 01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:03,920 now you got to work together. Yep, that's pretty much how it goes. So, it's 941 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:08,400 that's why I suggest that, you know, um being mindful. You may not agree with 942 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:13,520 the other candidates, but be mindful. You could wound up working with them and 943 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:17,440 it can be a long four years if you've been nasty. 944 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:21,120 Okay. I don't know what else I got. Yeah, I got nothing else. So, are there 945 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:27,040 any questions [clears throat] that you have? Um, I know threw a lot of stuff at 946 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:32,640 you, but hopefully you've got a better idea. Here's the process. 947 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:36,800 What are your responsibilities and what's it like being an elected official 948 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:41,199 so you can make that choice for yourself? Whether this is something you 949 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,640 want to do, but if it is something you want to do, congratulations and I 950 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,280 encourage you wholeheartedly. >> Theoretical question. 951 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:51,120 » Oh, those are always [laughter] good. >> Hypothetical, whatever it is. Okay. You 952 01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:55,280 know I you know we already have two people who are involved in council right 953 01:11:52,880 --> 01:12:01,440 now. Three other people sitting here. What if after all this we go I want to 954 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:03,360 do this. Where are the other candidates? >> Who knows 955 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:09,280 » what happens? So you get >> okay if you get just enough candidates 956 01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:14,400 then it's called an election by acclamation. 957 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:18,239 » Okay. So that means oh sorry as staff I'd be doing that. Oh, right. We got a 958 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:24,080 council, but I don't have to do an election. That's just my personal bias. 959 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:28,239 But so, no, it's if there are as many people as there are positions, it's 960 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:32,880 acclamation. You do that declaration on the 21st saying, "Yeah, here you go." 961 01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:36,480 » And then so you start getting going from there. If there are not enough 962 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:40,880 candidates, >> which has always been a question, um, we 963 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:45,520 got a couple more days to put it out there saying, "Hey, just so you know, 964 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,120 you still got time. Hopefully, please, please, please, somebody, somebody, 965 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:53,440 somebody somebody um you know, and that may be something that you look at if 966 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:57,840 you're one of those people who's there's, you know, who do you know who 967 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:03,280 might want to >> that talk? If that doesn't happen and 968 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:06,719 you've only got so many, well, the ones who are the so many are then going to be 969 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,800 looking at who are you going to tap on the shoulder. 970 01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:15,280 » Yeah. Mhm. 971 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,440 » Isn't that something? >> Well, there you go. There you are. 972 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:22,320 » Sounds interesting. >> Yeah. It's not a situation though where 973 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:28,480 um candidate people who had been on council before are continuing on, but 974 01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:32,080 it's not like you don't well, you know how it is like in some societies. So, 975 01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:36,320 you're stuck in the position as secretary treasurer until the next per 976 01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:39,040 until we get your replacement. That's not the situation there. It's a brand 977 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:44,640 new kit. So, >> okay. I'm just curious. 978 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:46,719 » Yeah. There were only three there or five positions for the 979 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,080 council. >> One mayor, 980 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:55,280 » four counselors. >> Okay. And I believe last election there 981 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:59,760 were only five. >> That would have been 982 01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:03,920 » five counselors or four voting. There weren't there weren't that many. 983 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:07,520 » I can't speak to 2022. >> There was an exclamation, 984 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,239 » right? Pretty much everybody got elected, right? 985 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:14,560 » Yeah. What happened? There was a bi-election as a position became vacant. 986 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:20,080 There was a bi-election in that situation. Uh there was only one person 987 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:24,880 who was qualified to at the close of the uh 988 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:29,920 at the close of nomination and consequently that person was 989 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:33,600 acquainted. Um again that was a situation where somebody left it to the 990 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,880 last minute and sorry >> in the 2018 election we were all 991 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,520 claimed. >> Yeah. 992 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,360 So really >> there you go. 993 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:47,040 » Interesting. >> So yeah, it it does happen. 994 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:52,400 » So it all all depends what the situation is. Um there's a fluidity um for us who 995 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:57,120 do the elections at this time. This is probably the most time you sit most on 996 01:14:54,719 --> 01:15:00,880 pins and needles going are we going to do like are we have an election or what 997 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:05,040 or what do we need to worry about? There was also one case in the past where we 998 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:08,880 there were five people that submitted for council and a few of them got 999 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:13,679 together and decided that one of them was going to drop out. Well, didn't 1000 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:17,440 think we needed an election. >> I've heard I've had that happen in 1001 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:22,679 bi-election. Oh, well, can't we just figure amongst ourselves who wants to la 1002 01:15:22,827 --> 01:15:24,847 [laughter] 1003 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:35,440 withdraw, I need paperwork. Okay. what you guys make the decision on and how 1004 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:40,000 you make that decision la I don't know I just know I have paperwork 1005 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:44,480 so there was one question maybe you didn't touch on it but the day by which 1006 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:48,640 you need to withdraw to ensure you're not on the ballot 1007 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:54,560 » September 18th 4 p.m. It must be in writing. So an email saying I'm out. 1008 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:57,600 » It's the same day as the >> Yeah. And after that, but it has to go 1009 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:02,000 to the ministry. >> And the ministry has in the past said, 1010 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:04,400 "Tough noodies, your name stays on." Oh, really? 1011 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,199 » Cuz you know this person's going to sit there and pull the plug as soon as 1012 01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:11,280 they're elected. And we're in a bi-election. Like seriously, ministry 1013 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:16,560 lines more than more than once. Something pulled out way too late. 1014 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:20,239 » Yeah. So we would be dealing to the ministry about that as soon as possible. 1015 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:24,560 See, but there would be a ministerial order to authorize that. But like I 1016 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:29,280 said, I know a couple of my friend election friends who have had that and 1017 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:34,400 the ministry said [clears throat] these you're on the ballot. Even if you 1018 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:38,560 go around saying don't vote for me, don't vote for me, you're still 1019 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:45,199 campaigning. So still had to keep the election paperwork going with the don't 1020 01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:48,880 vote for me paperwork. Um rocking good times. 1021 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:52,239 » The campaign period starts 28 days before the election, but also it's said 1022 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,440 July 20th or >> that's the c that's the pre- campaign 1023 01:16:54,239 --> 01:17:02,080 period >> July 20th to october 11th or no 1024 01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:06,560 September 11th [sighs] my kids birthday. 1025 01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:12,320 So, but bottom line is if you're campaigning, keep your receipts. Get 1026 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:18,080 that that get that uh account open, put the money in, pay the money, just filter 1027 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:22,320 it all through there. Okay, we're good. Um, is there any questions online or 1028 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:28,239 » Ross? >> Ross, did you want to say anything? 1029 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:33,040 » Just being diplomatic and letting me >> That's very kind. 1030 01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:37,760 That's very kind. But, uh, I think you've done an excellent job covering 1031 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:42,320 off all the issues. >> Thank you so much, Lisa. 1032 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:47,679 » You're most welcome. Um, if there are any questions, these are the two you 1033 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:51,520 talked to. I'll have, but I'll I'll still be here after, so I guess we can 1034 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:54,719 stop the recording. >> Great. Thank you so much for