1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,800 as well as another parking spot for everyone else. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Um I think that for that one. So, the property highlights, what will this 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:17,400 property have at at What will the property have? It is a housing project 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:22,040 for families, so we are looking at anyone from one to four bedrooms. A lot 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:28,440 of this is dictated by the scoring criteria and how many bedrooms we can we 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:32,439 we included based on the scoring that is eligible. So, we're trying to max out 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,240 our points. The more points we get, the better off our chances [snorts] are to 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:41,800 get funded. So, we have seven one bedrooms, 13 two bedrooms, six three 9 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:46,360 bedrooms, and four four bedroom units. Uh again, that first level is covered 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:52,360 parking. There is an elevator in there. Interior and exterior community spaces. 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:56,640 There's again that parking or the um dog park and the playground. There's 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:01,200 also community garden included. And interior, there's some community spaces. 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:06,120 There's in-unit washers and dryers for all of the tenants. 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:11,480 Um controlled entrances. [clears throat] No smoking on the property. The Feist 15 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:15,760 energy model is that zero energy um model, so 16 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:19,560 really insulated building, uh making sure that the property is built very 17 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:23,520 very well. So, and we're producing energy 18 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:28,160 um that we're using in the building. The households that we're looking at are 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:32,920 people at 60% of the area median income and people at 30% of the area median 20 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:37,160 income, and we'll get to that. We have six units set aside for people with 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:41,960 disabilities, and then four units set aside for people who are homeless. 22 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:46,360 And we do have a service provider that we'll be working with on providing 23 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:51,840 services to those 10 units. In addition to that, the project um has 24 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:56,040 housing support committed by Meeker County. So, all 10 of them will have 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:00,040 housing support through Meeker County. Service provider that we are working 26 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:05,080 with for the people with disabilities and high priority homeless is UCAP. 27 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,039 Okay. And then, 28 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:13,840 um, we do have a part-time tenant services coordinator who will be there 29 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:18,400 to coordinate, um, community events or things along those lines so that, um, 30 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,240 tenants feel like this is their home and they can, 31 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,800 um, connect with each other. And then there 32 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,160 is a collaborative ownership and management partners between uh, the 33 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Litchfield HRA who will eventually be sole owner and Central Minnesota Housing 34 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Partnership because of some balance sheet items and getting investors 35 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,480 interested in it. They need someone who has the expertise and development. So we 36 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:45,360 will partner on this transaction together until, um, it makes sense for 37 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:50,480 us to exit the partnership and we will do that at no cost to the to the HRA. 38 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:54,400 » Okay. Very good. >> The income levels that we're looking at 39 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:58,920 and the proposed rents are right there. Uh, the one person, that 30% is about 40 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:04,400 $10.29 an hour. The 60% is about $24.02 41 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:09,600 an hour. And that goes all the way up to four. That 30% income for four people is 42 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:16,880 $14.69 and then that 60% income is $34.29. 43 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,640 So as you can see it's a really, um, a big range of households that we're 44 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:25,800 looking at. And then the bedroom the rents are there 45 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:30,640 for the bedroom sizes. Those 30% are the housing support units and those are 46 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:34,920 dictated by the county and how much we can charge for rent. Otherwise, those 47 00:03:32,519 --> 00:03:40,400 are the rents that we're anticipating. Um, and these proposed rents do meet the 48 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Meeker County Housing and Redevelopment Authority payment standards. So 49 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:51,239 Okay. The proposed sources of sources and uses 50 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:56,880 of funds. The sources we're applying for is a first mortgage of about 661,000, 51 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:02,400 tax credit equity and equity from an investor of about $9 million, 52 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Minnesota housing deferred financing, so it's a 0% deferred loan of about 3.5, 53 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:13,000 almost 3.6 million. We have a sales tax and energy rebate of about 325,000, 54 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:18,480 and then a deferred developer fee of about $96,000. So, that gives us our 55 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:21,959 total source of 13.7 million. The uses for those are our land 56 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,919 acquisition [clears throat] of a dollar with the with the Housing 57 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:30,040 and Redevelopment Authority. And then construction costs of about 58 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:34,120 $10.2 million, construction contingency, so if anything 59 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:38,840 goes wrong, bad soil borings, things like that, about $410,000, 60 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,280 and soft costs, which include architect, legal fees, development fees, 61 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:47,000 um engineering fees, things like that, of 62 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:52,640 about $3 million. And so, our total sources and uses do balance out. The 63 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:57,240 pay-as-you-go tax increment financing that we are requesting tonight is part 64 00:04:54,919 --> 00:05:01,640 of that $661,000. We will leverage that pay-as-you-go to 65 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:05,280 increase our first mortgage amount for the project. 66 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,680 » Okay. >> And then the scoring criteria, just to 67 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:14,160 kind of give you an idea that the higher you score, the better your chances are 68 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:17,480 of getting funded. So, um 69 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:21,760 we're trying to get the most amount of points so that we have the best 70 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:26,600 opportunity to get this project so we are looking at large families, so that's 71 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:30,600 why we have that that breakdown of one to four bedroom, we get 15 points for 72 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,760 that. That's supportive housing, the people with disabilities, the high 73 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,800 priority homeless, that gives us an additional 17 points. The rental 74 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:43,280 assistance or that housing support we're getting from Meeker County gives us an 75 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:48,080 additional 14 No, 18 points. Serves the lowest income, that two-tier, 76 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:52,880 the 60% incomes and those 30% incomes gives us an additional 14 points. 77 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Long-term affordability, we are committing to 50 years of affordability. 78 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:01,560 That gives us nine points. Accessible access to affordable housing, this is a 79 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Minnesota housing criteria. They do some data research and you just you either 80 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:09,640 get the points or you don't. So, the next couple are just their criteria. So, 81 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,400 there's four points there. Workforce Housing Community, uh Litchfield gets 82 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:18,600 six points. Transit and walkability, Litchfield gets eight points. Community 83 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,640 Development Initiative, uh we looked through your comp plan that you 84 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,520 currently have and have to answer questions and hopefully we can answer 85 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:29,480 all of those questions. Uh I reviewed the comp plan uh this past week and we 86 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,720 were able to answer all of those questions. So, we took an additional 87 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:37,640 three points uh because this project does align with the comp plan that you 88 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:43,360 have already established. Qualified Stakeholders Group, uh 89 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:47,360 Jenny and our a group of people from our office had met with a few people who 90 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,720 would qualify to live at this property and asked them what they liked and 91 00:06:48,919 --> 00:06:55,480 didn't like about the project and we were able to make some tweaks to the 92 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:59,640 project or adjust things here and there that makes it a little better for them 93 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:03,880 to live at the project. So, we're we're getting their kind of feedback on that. 94 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Rural Tribal is another Minnesota Housing Criteria, so that's five points. 95 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Multifamily Housing Award, so there hasn't been an award in Litchfield for 96 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,160 the last five years. So, there's four points there. 97 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Uh People of Color or Women Owned Businesses, we get an additional eight 98 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,080 points there. Local access to supportive housing, um 99 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:27,400 the city certified to this. So, there was two additional points there. 100 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Financial readiness to proceed. So, this is where if we could get deferred loans 101 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:36,840 or deferred developer fees, donations, actual cash to the project, you can 102 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:41,080 score higher. Right now, we're looking at about six points for that. Other 103 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:45,600 contributions, this is where that tax increment financing comes in, any 104 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:49,840 donated land, things that are not actual hard cash, but contributions to the 105 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:54,160 project. That is other contributions and we're getting about four points there. 106 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Intermediary costs, keeping our developer fees down, our soil borings 107 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:03,600 and things like that down. We get three points there. Universal design means 108 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:08,720 that the property is designed in a way that if they were a senior or 109 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:12,680 they want to age in place, there still is areas, especially those one-bedrooms, 110 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:19,120 where they can age in place. The doors are wider, things are lowered, 111 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:23,040 so they're easily accessible. And then the enhanced sustainability, 112 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,240 what kinds of things are we going to add to that project, which is the FIAS 113 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:32,640 model, which gives us an additional 12 points. So, we are looking at about 144 114 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:36,145 points as it stands right now. Without the TIF that we're talking about 115 00:08:34,599 --> 00:08:40,320 tonight, we will lose two points [snorts] on that. So, it is very 116 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,800 It is very crucial to get those those tax increment financing. 117 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:50,800 In 2025, the Greater Minnesota housing projects that received funding scored 118 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:54,720 anywhere between 136 to 155 and approximately [laughter] one in five 119 00:08:52,080 --> 00:09:00,080 applications receives funding. So, at 144, we're looking at a really good 120 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:04,839 scoring project. The applications are due July 9th and we will not find out 121 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:08,360 about funding awards until December of this year. 122 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:12,040 And then I just put up a sample project of something that we've done before. 123 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,680 This is a family project we're building in Little Falls right now, but it kind 124 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:20,480 of gives you an idea of of kind of what we would propose for a 125 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,480 project. 126 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,800 And with that, I'm open to questions. Yeah. 127 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:32,240 » You said it's a Is it Is it three stories above the 128 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:35,280 parking level? So, there's three more >> Correct, but I believe 129 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,560 » So, it's like four stories tall. >> Yes. 130 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,920 » It'd be similar in to the law. >> Yeah. 131 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,760 » Do you know if I have a question on the point system? 132 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:52,080 » Yes. >> we we you calculated 144. Will the 133 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:56,800 the ones that are doing the the scoring grade it the same? 134 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,760 » It all depends. So, for everything that we are claiming points for, we have to 135 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,520 document. >> Okay. 136 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,800 » to provide third-party documentation. >> these points? 137 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,520 » We are asking for 144. Whether we get them or not, pretty 138 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,520 typically we get what we ask for unless there's something that they've 139 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:16,520 identified as not providing enough documentation, but 140 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,680 » Okay, very good. Any other questions? [snorts] 141 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,600 » This point system that you have, is that out of how many? 142 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:27,480 If if we get 10 points, is that 10 out of 100 or is that 10 143 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,240 » it's really hard to to say how many total points there are because you can 144 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,960 get points for family housing, and then you can get 145 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:40,000 points for senior housing, but you can't get points for both. So, there isn't 146 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:45,000 really a an actual full total of how many points that you can actually 147 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:50,680 get if you did everything. Um but I would say you're close to about 148 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:54,280 220. All together, if you did a family 149 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:58,200 project that had everything in it and you maxed out all of your points, it'd 150 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,560 probably close to just over 200 points. >> No, that's I was just asking if, you 151 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:06,880 know, where you had five points for a certain thing, five out of what? 152 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:10,600 » Oh, if I have it on here, the the max points on there, the only ones we're not 153 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:14,880 receiving the max points on right now are um financial readiness to proceed 154 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:19,360 and other contributions. Otherwise, for the most part, we're requesting the max 155 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,120 contribution the max points. >> Okay. 156 00:11:20,552 --> 00:11:23,640 » [clears throat] >> Very good. 157 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,000 » John? >> Um you were part of the planning 158 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:33,080 commission meeting that that I was unable to attend, and some of the the 159 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:37,800 questions they had have been answered a little bit tonight. Is that correct? 160 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:41,560 Parking and uh playground for kids. 161 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,960 » Mhm. Yep, we adjusted some of those items. 162 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:48,640 » Right. Can Can you think of other things that were 163 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,440 » Parking was a street parking was a big big concern. 164 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Um excess parking in addition to the 165 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:01,000 to the designated parking for people that visit or stop by being on the 166 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:04,320 street. That's a busy street. Was that Was that addressed at all? 167 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,520 » we added a couple more parking spots and I know that we meet the parking 168 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:12,920 requirements for the city. >> We do. And we also have those two extra 169 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:16,400 lots that we could convert to to added parking too if we need to. 170 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:20,160 » Yes, I believe Jenny was talking. >> Yeah, and the other piece to that too is 171 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,760 I've had some preliminary conversations with our property management about 172 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,480 possibly in that back parking lot. 173 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:29,080 They have a garage. So I 174 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,760 if there's concerns for street parking, I think there's definitely room for 175 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,680 movement. >> Okay. 176 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Very good. Very good. 177 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:42,080 Any other questions? >> The The underground parking that you 178 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:46,680 have available, would that with the amount of apartments, would 179 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:51,280 each apartment get like two stalls? >> The underground parking, well, everyone 180 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,320 will get one stall. >> So if they have two cars, that's going 181 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:58,160 to take up >> to go outside in the parking lot. Mhm. 182 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,120 » Okay. Any other questions? 183 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Dave, if you want to take Darlene, do you have a question? 184 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,320 » Well, I had a question about it the Ehlers. 185 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,120 » Okay, you want Dave to go You're going to be discussing Ehlers first, Dave. 186 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,920 » Yeah. 187 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,480 Jason and I didn't go through this uh in 188 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,480 entire thing um in detail. 189 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,520 Uh couple of main points that Jason wanted 190 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,480 to um 191 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,920 make sure that the council understood is um, 192 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:36,240 again you've got a resolution tonight you're supporting TIF and that this 193 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:41,880 project meets the but for test with TIF so that the council is safe tonight to 194 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:45,600 pass that resolution in support of TIF. The other conversation that Jason wanted 195 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:50,040 to have with you guys is this is not the final 196 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,000 approval process for the TIF um, application, right? There's a public 197 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,880 hearing and other things that are involved later on should this get the 198 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:01,000 funding um, from the state of Minnesota. 199 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,360 And Jason just wanted to throw out to the council just 200 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,680 there'll be some future conversations about 201 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,560 maybe value and whether there's potentially a different way of 202 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:16,520 accomplishing the same sort of task without going through the TIF process. 203 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Um, again there's a you know, we got a 204 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:25,720 in comparison to Midtown Lofts, right? That's a different tax bracket, it's a 205 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:30,640 different project, it's got a different dollar amount. There's a ton of value to 206 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:35,400 that TIF agreement. There's a lot less value to 207 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,920 this TIF than we typically would see on a TIF project. So, 208 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:43,960 it's a future conversation that we'll be having with the council. What we're 209 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:47,960 committed to is the city match and and the dollar amount, right? And so, there 210 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:52,200 might be a different way to pull off the same 211 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,000 magic if you will, right? So, he'll be having a conversation with you guys in 212 00:14:53,480 --> 00:15:01,800 the future should funding come >> shouldn't change the point system for 213 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:08,839 our idea on this team. Okay. Darlene. I just the big chart, what page is this? 214 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Uh, 103, 104. Where does it say how much each year 215 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:20,120 they get it's the from Elders is up the very last 216 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,960 one maybe. How much overall are we talking about 217 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,840 taxes in the 26-year [clears throat] TIF? 218 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:32,240 I don't know. See if that's 219 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,840 » Uh you would have to do math there. So, I would 220 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:39,560 » Which column is it? >> I would direct you back to the 221 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,920 uh front page. 222 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:51,200 » Okay. The page that's blue, printed in blue? 223 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Okay. 224 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,960 What number is Oh, okay. 225 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,360 So, we don't know in a 26-year period of how much 226 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,080 » Right. >> going to be 84,000? 227 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,160 » Yeah. That's what we're putting in our 228 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,360 workbook is the 84,000 at net present value of the semi-annual net tax 229 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:15,880 increment. >> But semi-annual 84,000, so annually 230 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:21,240 168,000? >> Nope. 84,000 is semi- We'll get two 231 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:25,400 payments each year, so semi-annually we'll get two payments. The total for 232 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,520 the 26 years is 80 >> Oh, okay. Thank you. 233 00:16:26,839 --> 00:16:32,240 » Yeah. >> I just couldn't see it. 234 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,240 I had no idea where it was. 235 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:41,561 Any other questions of Dave for TIF or Diana for the project? 236 00:16:39,541 --> 00:16:41,561 » [clears throat] 237 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:49,520 » If not, a resolution is in order to authorize the use of tax increment 238 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:53,240 financing and to waive certain city and ditch bill fees and expenses for the 239 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Prousing project. A couple things that the total amount 240 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:05,760 committed is 84,567 dollars for the pay as as you go TIF for 241 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:11,120 26 years plus approximately 20,000 for the L errors uh 242 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,680 uh doing the TIF program. Correct, Dave? >> Yep. 243 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:17,839 » Yep. And an additional 5,000 dollars for uh 244 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:22,000 uh hookup for water meter hook up. So, that's the 245 00:17:19,959 --> 00:17:24,160 combination of this. So, resolution number 246 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:27,040 uh What is the resolution, David? It says 247 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:31,080 26. So, it's >> No resolution number on 248 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:40,120 You don't have the Oh, we don't the bottom section where we 249 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,040 don't have we don't have the market value land thing right now, 250 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:49,200 right? So, that'll get filled in in the next 251 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,680 » Can we resolve this first? >> week or so. Yep. The rest of the You're 252 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,280 We're resolving to the resolution, that bottom section will 253 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,160 have to get filled out. >> Yeah, very good. Would anybody like to 254 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,880 resolve? Or else should I make that resolution? 255 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,320 » Carlson resolves. Do we have a second? >> Larson seconds. 256 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:10,320 » Larson seconds to authorize 257 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,560 resolution to authorize the use of tax increment financing and waving certain 258 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:18,520 City of Litchfield fees uh for the the Haven on Hubbard 259 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,960 broadcast. >> Any further discussion? 260 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Hearing none, roll call. >> Councilor Larson. 261 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,080 » Aye. >> Mayor Dingmann. 262 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,120 » Aye. >> Councilor Bullard. 263 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,120 » Aye. >> Councilor Eken. 264 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,040 » Aye. >> Councilor Carlson. 265 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,360 » Aye. >> Councilor Powers. 266 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,440 » Aye. >> Mayor Dingmann. 267 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,480 » Aye. Thank you. Thank you, Deanna. 268 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,000 » Thanks. >> Thank you. 269 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:44,080 » Thank you. >> The uh 270 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,960 next item is uh the Planning Commission and 271 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,600 uh Since I will be abstaining from 272 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:54,000 participating in council discussion and voting on this issue, Council Member 273 00:18:52,000 --> 00:19:00,080 Larson will fill in as acting mayor for this portion of the council meeting. So, 274 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,080 » All right. 275 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:10,760 So, we're going to go to as soon as Ron goes. Thanks, Ron. 276 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:18,120 John, I'm going to turn the time over to you for presenting for us the Planning 277 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:22,240 Commission meeting and then we'll go forward with that resolution. 278 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:27,120 » Latest Planning Commission meeting um 808 South Marshall Avenue Avenue asked 279 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:32,560 for a variance. The property contains an existing 8-ft fence along 85 ft of the 280 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:37,400 rear south property line. The fence was permitted with a building 281 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:41,600 permit in 2005. The current zoning ordinance limits 282 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,760 property line fences to 6 ft residential districts. 283 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:49,200 There was previously a tree located in the southeast corner of the lot. The 284 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:52,920 tree has been removed recently. The applicant would like to extend the 285 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:57,160 fence 24 more feet completing the fencing along the rear property line. 286 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:01,160 If the tree had not been present, the fence would have been constructed in 287 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:05,120 this area in 2005. Property owners are to the west are 288 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:08,680 supportive. Fence is fully blocked from view to the south by neighboring garage. 289 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,040 No comments in opposition to the variance were received. 290 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,920 Planning Commission found all variance criteria to be met and was supportive of 291 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:20,320 the request. They recommended approval as submitted. 292 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,240 » Awesome. So, we'll just need someone to make a resolution. 293 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,520 » we want questions first? Is there any questions on what's being asked? 294 00:20:28,139 --> 00:20:30,159 » [cough] 295 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:40,760 » All right, then we take a resolution to accept these um changes for the 6-ft to 296 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:45,120 8-ft fence on that on the side. >> I'd like to make a resolution number 297 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:48,880 26-6-102 to grant a variance to Ronald and Mary 298 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:52,720 Ann Dingman for property located at 808 South Marshall Avenue. 299 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,880 » Thanks, John. I'll second. >> Mathwig, second. 300 00:20:54,280 --> 00:21:00,000 » Mathwig. Is there any discussion before we go 301 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,360 forward? All right, roll call. 302 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,600 » Larson Mathwig. >> Hi. 303 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,600 » Mathwig. >> Hi. 304 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:05,600 » Allen. >> Hi. 305 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,480 » Larson. >> Hi. 306 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,000 » Powers. >> Hi. 307 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,760 » Larson Mathwig. >> Hi. 308 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,760 » Thanks, all. 309 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,120 Thanks, Mario, for grabbing me. 310 00:21:20,539 --> 00:21:26,489 » [cough] >> We said no. 311 00:21:24,469 --> 00:21:26,489 » [laughter] 312 00:21:32,329 --> 00:21:34,349 [cough and clears throat] 313 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,640 » Thanks, Ron. Thank you, Loretta. 314 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:49,080 The next item is the liquor store 315 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:53,640 part-time wages. Dave, do you want to take this one? 316 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Yeah, the council's aware of this one. We dealt with the rest of part-time 317 00:21:55,120 --> 00:22:00,360 staff sometime ago. This one's been 318 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:04,800 on our list. After discussions with 319 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:10,040 um Lori um and making sure that this was 320 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,560 the direction that we wanted to go. We've got a recommendation before you 321 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:18,000 tonight. That is to change the part-time wages, 322 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,800 which are currently starting at 13 and 1/2 323 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:26,120 dollars per [clears throat] hour, to move those to $15 per hour. 324 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,920 Um additionally, there's a 325 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:34,240 um supplemental 50-cent increase for those 326 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:39,160 that are key holders. Key holders are people who can open and close the 327 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:45,240 facility without uh direct supervision. Um and then there's a one employee with 328 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:49,720 um that has I'll call it special duties um in addition to every all the other 329 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:54,640 clerk duties that are there. Um and that's a $2 $2 increase for um 330 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,920 that employee. Um 331 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:02,960 if if the council will remember years ago, we did have 332 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:08,640 um a full-time uh liquor store clerk, um and having some discussion over the 333 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:13,120 last year and a half or so, uh the idea here is to not carry that 334 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:18,480 position forward, um and to just use the part-time 335 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:22,720 um wages, specifically that special duties, uh for one employee uh to 336 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,640 accomplish the same duties that the full-time clerk was doing previously. 337 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,200 » Okay. >> Uh with that, I think we'd stand for 338 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,880 questions the council may have. >> Questions. 339 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,440 I have a couple. Arlene. >> Um 340 00:23:37,436 --> 00:23:42,160 » [clears throat] >> This isn't organized labor. They're not 341 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,760 a union. >> Correct. 342 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,560 » Okay. And then when did the You said sometime 343 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:54,760 ago other part-timers, when was that that other part-timers got their raises? 344 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,760 » About this time last year. 345 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,560 » So that they've been worked the liquor store people have worked a whole year 346 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:06,800 without When did we give the other city 347 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:11,600 employees who are part-time their 2026 raise? 348 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:16,280 January, February? Their >> 26 wait well, so everyone's based on 349 00:24:15,426 --> 00:24:20,280 » [clears throat] >> um 350 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:24,960 their anniversary dates, right? So as their anniversary date comes, that's 351 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,960 when they got their raise. 352 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:33,080 » Okay. So well, my question is do they get back pay? 353 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,800 This has been going on for quite a long time and they've waited. 354 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,200 » Yeah, so >> give them back pay? 355 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:44,920 » A couple things. Um 356 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,920 This isn't something that we've been 357 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:52,000 There was a period of time here where we also thought we might go down the 358 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:55,760 full-time liquor clerk bit, right? So it's not like this was the only 359 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,000 direction that we were headed in. Um 360 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,000 A This is a 361 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,040 This is a change. Um 362 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:10,560 I It's going to be really difficult to go 363 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:14,640 back because staff does change here more often than they do 364 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,652 as our full-time staff does, right? So, going back and doing 365 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,200 um >> [clears throat] 366 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,560 » back pay is going to be much more difficult, um 367 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,760 which includes para calculations and other things as well. 368 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,040 Um I think 369 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,360 » Okay. >> city hall staff would 370 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,960 like to see this as an action taken tonight and carried forward. 371 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:43,960 » Any other comments? >> Are the employees okay with doing it 372 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,960 like this, not a full-time clerk? 373 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400 » Yes. 374 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:58,600 » If everybody's in agreement, a resolution is in order to increase the 375 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:03,080 starting wage to $15 an hour, a 40-cent annual raise per year of 376 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:08,560 service, 50-cent increase for key stakeholders, and a $2 increase for one 377 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:12,840 employee that accomplishes extra duties previously done by the full-time clerk. 378 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,560 So, would anybody like to resolve? 379 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,960 » Larson would resolve. >> Larson resolves. Do we have a second? 380 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,720 » Mathwig'll second. >> Mathwig seconds. 381 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,000 Discussion. >> I have a question, Ron. 382 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:31,440 » Go ahead. >> Okay, we're talking part-time wages for 383 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:34,920 the employees at the liquor store. Is that 384 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:39,240 $15 an hour? Is that what part-timers get in all the departments? 385 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,240 » No. 386 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,680 No, I don't have that schedule in front of me, but 387 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,480 um >> 13 or 14? 388 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,760 » $14 is where uh other departments start. 389 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:58,320 Um and again, if they're 18 plus I think 390 00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:01,760 they start at 15 maybe so That that was the schedule that was in 391 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,480 front of the council a year ago. Like I could bring that resolution 392 00:27:03,763 --> 00:27:08,120 » [clears throat] >> back but that was 393 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,560 that was in front of you guys a year ago today. I don't I didn't bring that with 394 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560 me. 395 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,840 » Any further discussion? 396 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,520 » There are there are there are part-time employees at the liquor store right now 397 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,240 that were working for the old wage that are going to get brought up to the new 398 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,520 wage, right? >> Correct. Yes. 399 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:35,204 » But we're not we're not going to owe them money being that this should have 400 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:37,800 been done a while ago. >> [clears throat] 401 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,720 » I I'm not sure that 402 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:47,240 I'm in the should have been done a while ago 403 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,240 boat. 404 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,880 Yeah, we've had this conversation for a while but 405 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,480 we've been going through a process to identify kind of what we wanted to see 406 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:03,720 happen and there's a lot of factors that go into these things. It's where the 407 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:08,040 market's paying, right? It's where this department is in relation to 408 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:13,600 other departments is a factor that goes into this and again the overall 409 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:16,720 department direction took some time with 410 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:21,600 new management to figure out exactly where we were comfortable and 411 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:25,560 how we wanted to move this forward and happy to report as of the last week 412 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,640 we're all comfortable and on the same page now. 413 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,920 » No other discussion. Roll call. >> Ms. McColl, Nikki. 414 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,760 » Aye. >> Allen. 415 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,720 » Aye. >> Carlson. 416 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,560 » Aye. >> Powers. 417 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,600 » Aye. >> Mayor Diamond. 418 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,720 » Aye. >> Ms. Larson. 419 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320 » Aye. >> Chapman. 420 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,120 » Aye. >> Resolved. Thank you, Dave. 421 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920 Thank you, Laurie. 422 00:28:51,840 --> 00:29:00,240 The next item is the uh Civic Arena lease from the Department of Public 423 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,960 Safety. If you remember last year, we uh took out a lease uh for 424 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,880 with a 9 months, I think it was or something like that. 425 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,480 And uh this is extending it for 2 more years. 426 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Um for a 2-year period commencing 10 1 of 427 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:23,160 '26 to 9 30 of '28 for $600 a month. For a total for this term would be $14,000. 428 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Um it's all written out here. We also have 429 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:31,960 a daily rate of $150 that's in here. So, uh 430 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:36,240 664 square feet of community room B that's is used. And uh 431 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,520 any other questions? Dave, did I miss anything? 432 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Nope. 433 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,240 What's your wish? 434 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:51,480 » Mathwig would resolve to renew the contract. 435 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,760 » Mathwig resolves to renew this contract for a 2-year period. Do we have a 436 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,120 second? >> Larson I'll second. 437 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,240 » Larson seconds. Any further discussion? 438 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240 Roll call. >> Councilmember Allen? 439 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,120 » Aye. >> Carlson? 440 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,000 » Aye. >> Powers? 441 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,920 » Aye. >> Councilmember Dingmann? 442 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,160 » Aye. >> Councilmember Larson? 443 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,080 » Aye. >> Mathwig? 444 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,480 » Aye. >> Councilmember Welickey? 445 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:15,320 » Aye. >> Thank you. Resolved. Next item is the uh 446 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:21,600 1002 South Armstrong Avenue offer of uh 447 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:25,000 $30,000. Dave, do you want to enlighten us on this, please? 448 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,480 » Yeah, I kind of hinted to the council at our last work session that this one 449 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:34,440 would be back in front of you guys. Um we have another party, different party 450 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:39,040 interested in purchasing um this lot. If the council will remember, um we did 451 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:44,240 provide the council with kind of a table last time around with options in terms 452 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:48,360 of uh how you might proceed and move forward with the sale of a lot like 453 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,360 this. 454 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Couple of the things have changed with this offer. 455 00:30:51,720 --> 00:31:00,720 One being that it does add an additional parcel. [clears throat] 456 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:04,160 Two and it doesn't add, sorry, it keeps the same amount of parcels that we had 457 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:08,200 before whereas the other offer would have combined two parcels. 458 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,560 So the I change of 459 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:18,760 potential reduction in taxable value is not an issue with this 460 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:23,480 particular request. The other item that is different from the other request is 461 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:28,520 we have an actual dollar amount in in the offer. 462 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:32,880 Moving forward, we have a resolution on in hand to 463 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:38,600 um get a survey done for the parcel to cut 464 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:43,000 out a section for turnaround for staff. For snow plowing efforts, 465 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:47,920 that is still in effect and we'll proceed with that. 466 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,560 The item that we really need some direction from the council on 467 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:56,520 is whether or not you want to process this as a 468 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,800 essentially a private sale. Again, we're going to have to go through the public 469 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,720 hearing process. We got to do this via ordinance, right? So it's going to take 470 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:08,200 some time. There would be an opportunity for public feedback, but 471 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:13,320 there's no quote listing, there's no public offer here and if that's the 472 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:17,880 council's wishes, we need to know prior to kind of moving forward with that 473 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,880 public hearing. 474 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:25,840 » So Dave, if we would go ahead with with a public hearing on this and we would 475 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:31,960 have some interest at that at the public hearing. 476 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:35,320 Would it be appropriate at that point to open it up or what what would would be 477 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,640 our next step? Do you follow my question. 478 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,640 » Uh 479 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:46,840 yes. I 480 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:49,440 Can they prove sale 481 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840 not to a specific party? 482 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:08,640 » And then once it's able to sale for 483 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,560 When you say offers of sale. 484 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,520 » Yeah, so my question um was whether or not if we 485 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:22,440 again, we go through the public hearing and we adopt the ordinance, does the 486 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,800 ordinance doesn't identify who the buyer is necessarily, right? So you 487 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:30,040 theoretically you could go through approve the sale of land with the 488 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:34,400 ordinance and figure out later 489 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:38,840 » There's any more interest. >> If there's more interest, how you would 490 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,440 handle it at that stage? Um 491 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Again, 492 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:53,600 because we're not up front leading this one, right? We react to and every one of 493 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,000 these property sales has been this way. I will say this is kind of one of the 494 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:02,480 last ones that's on a list. We don't have a We don't have eight more of these 495 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:08,200 um that are there. But we've entertained these as you know, 496 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,600 quote unquote private sales here for quite for quite some time. This isn't 497 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:16,560 This isn't new. We did Crescent Park this way with a smaller lot. We did this 498 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:22,480 with the golf course this this way. So again, there is a public process. Um 499 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:27,080 but you're kind of proceeding that you're going to accept this offer in 500 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:31,960 this situation. >> Comments how we'd like to move forward. 501 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:37,520 » One of my gut thoughts is just that I think it's nice just to have it be open 502 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:42,679 to knowing who would have interest in it before we were to accept it. Just so 503 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:46,800 that it doesn't feel like in the past ones that we've done there's just been 504 00:34:43,879 --> 00:34:51,080 some feedback of, you know, did we did we have be you know, how did we get 505 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:54,840 that buyer, right? And I think when you just open it up to see if there's any 506 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:58,920 others who want to buy, it just becomes very transparent. Doesn't mean to say 507 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,880 that we wouldn't keep this I don't know who it is actually [clears throat] 508 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:06,560 the person wouldn't get it for what they've asked but at least we would open 509 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,560 it up know who else wants to buy it. Also, I think we had done the survey so 510 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:16,040 that we would know what to charge. Our last offer didn't know what we would 511 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,720 want and that was why we didn't have an answer for it for [clears throat] that 512 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:24,400 buyer. And so now after a survey we would have a better number to say 513 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,760 actually we would we want 40,000 or whatever, right? I think that's what 514 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,760 delayed us in the last one. So, I would feel like it would just be more 515 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:33,960 transparent if it was open and we allowed it that way. 516 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,040 » What are they going to use it for? >> Uh they want to 517 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:44,480 bring in a manufactured home onto the site. 518 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,240 » So, it'd be an additional tax property. >> Yep. 519 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,840 » Yep. >> Is there water and sewer into that area 520 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,600 that already? >> Sewer, yes. Water, no. 521 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:57,640 » Yes. No electricity, right? 522 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,200 Electricity is the same thing. >> Is that that far far far back in? 523 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,680 » Yep. >> Yeah. Yeah. 524 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,680 » Yep, it's a dead end. >> No water in that block. 525 00:36:06,109 --> 00:36:08,560 » [clears throat] >> None. 526 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,040 But there's sewer there. >> Yes. 527 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,400 » So, all you need is you need to run a line who would would that be our 528 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,160 responsibility? >> Typically, no. 529 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,600 » They would have >> be this person that wants to buy the 530 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,840 lot. >> Yep. 531 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:28,320 The neighbor right now is putting in the new water line to that to 532 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:33,080 their location. >> So it's run part way back already. 533 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:37,550 » Well, I think there'd be some discussion about 534 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,280 how to coordinate that. Yeah. >> [cough] 535 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:45,960 » Sorry. So it seems to me that every time we 536 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:49,920 have this situation we're using a different 537 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:55,000 process or not consistent. And we've had people come and offer 538 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,880 verbally a price and we had >> go through the public bid. We told them 539 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:02,480 no, we got to follow it. Then we have someone gives us a sealed envelope with 540 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:07,200 the price at a meeting. And now we have an email with the price. 541 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:11,480 Um I agree with Melinda. We just advertise it, get it surveyed and 542 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:15,040 because somebody will come later. Probably 543 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,640 there's nobody interested. But just because, you know, we sold it to one 544 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:23,480 person, somebody's going to come and say I would want that for $5,000 more. 545 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:27,320 And so let's just open it to the public and then we're fair. 546 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,000 But that's how I feel. >> Any other comments? 547 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,040 » I agree. Yeah, open it up. 548 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,600 » So if that's the consensus, would anybody want to make a resolution to 549 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:43,320 that effect? >> I'd make a resolution that we would open 550 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,440 this land up for sale 551 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,800 after we have our I mean, do we need to have a price on 552 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,960 that or that we just open it up for open it up 553 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,800 for sale. >> Yeah. 554 00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:02,240 » For public bid. >> After it's been surveyed. 555 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,240 » Everybody understand the resolution? 556 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,240 Do we have a second? >> Alan will second. 557 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:13,080 » Alan seconds. For opening up the land at 1002 South 558 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,480 Armstrong property, opening it up for public bid 559 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,120 uh process, [snorts] correct? 560 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,800 » Yeah. Can I ask a question now? >> Yeah. 561 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,200 » Is this [clears throat] ad? is this I mean is one of those that we just added 562 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:30,640 stuff on? Do you know what I mean? Like 563 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:33,960 I know. I didn't want to do that. >> So, what stuff what did you ask? 564 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,520 » Like, you know how we're we're talking about our priorities and then something 565 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,920 comes to us. And now this is putting something up at 566 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,640 the top of the list where this wasn't one of our priorities, right? 567 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,680 So >> Well, we said we were working on it that 568 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,360 it was going to be discussed tonight. >> Yeah. 569 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,480 » I I mean, I don't want to be glued to that list. 570 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:59,200 » If we can sell this and it becomes tax They said that 571 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:59,200 » Any further discussion? 572 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,040 Roll call. >> Council member Larson 573 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,960 » Aye. >> Powers 574 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,200 » Aye. >> Mayor Dingman 575 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,360 » Aye. >> Council member Larson 576 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,320 » Aye. >> Mathwig 577 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,360 » Aye. >> Wollniky 578 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,040 » Aye. >> Gallon 579 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,560 » Aye. >> Resolved. Thank you. 580 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,480 Um next item is the 581 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,640 um electronic or the the 582 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:29,440 financials, Darlene. >> Oh, I just had a question about the 583 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:34,360 Lark being closed for electrical upgrades and the expenses associated 584 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:38,600 with that. I didn't Is it on there? And how much? I And why was it closed 585 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:43,280 for electrical upgrade? I mean, I I don't know. 586 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:48,360 » Uh it was plan It was a planned outage, right, for 587 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,640 steps that needed to take place for final 588 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,920 electrical system. I'll put it that way. 589 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,520 Uh some temporary stuff was put in place to get the Lark up and running. 590 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,520 » Okay. >> And this is the final step to make sure 591 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:11,280 that everything was done and completed as designed. 592 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,920 » So, then there were change orders. Is I mean, what did it cost to do that or did 593 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,080 we already pay for it? Was that like included in the electrical 594 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:22,040 bill? >> What's that? 595 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:26,720 Yeah, they're at they're at their 100% now of they've been paid all of their 596 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,880 the electrician's been paid all of their money now. Yeah. 597 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,440 » Okay. And then 598 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,280 if we haven't gotten money from the state yet, where is that money coming 599 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:39,000 when we authorize these bills? Where does it come from? 600 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:44,240 » Uh yes. It's a good question, right? Um as 601 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,080 Justin alluded to at our last meeting and 602 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:51,160 majority of those are coming from uh temporarily from our wastewater 603 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,920 infrastructure fund. It'll get reimbursed when those funds come back 604 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,920 from state of Minnesota. 605 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,800 » That's all. I just wondered because we didn't hear [clears throat] anything 606 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,560 about it and it was closed and then I saw bills. 607 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:09,120 » Do you want to resolve to approve the financial report, uh 608 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,240 darling? >> Uh so moved. 609 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:17,240 » Moved by Councilman Kolodziejski to approve the 610 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:22,440 financial reports. Do we have a second? >> Mathwig, I'll second. 611 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,280 » Mathwig seconds. Any further discussion? Roll call. 612 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,440 » Councilmember Powers. >> All right. 613 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680 » Councilmember Dingmann. >> Aye. 614 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,640 » Councilmember Larson. >> Aye. 615 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,680 » Councilmember Mathwig. >> Aye. 616 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,520 » Councilmember Kolodziejski. >> Aye. 617 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,600 » Councilmember Allen. >> Aye. 618 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,240 » Councilmember Carlson. >> Aye. 619 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,760 » Very good. We've reached the end. >> Good. 620 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:40,200 » Adjournment is in order. >> Councilmember Allen, move to adjourn. 621 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,680 » We're adjourned. >> Thank you.