1 00:00:02,260 --> 00:00:05,300 [Music] 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:16,680 we're on all right good evening Lichfield and welcome to the Thursday 3 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:23,080 April 4th 2024 meeting of the Lichfield Conservation Commission I call this 4 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:28,720 meeting to order at 6:31 p.m. please rise for the Pledge of 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Allegiance Pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:41,640 and to the republ for it stands one nation God indivisible with liberty and 7 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:48,120 justice for all all right all right all right first thing uh roll call in 8 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:55,640 appointment of alternates Miz plansky please take us through the roll call Mr 9 00:00:50,239 --> 00:01:03,159 hofman here Mr mingan here Michael here Dian plansky is present Mr chairman and 10 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:07,840 Miss Vice chair here Frank Fred and George lash here and our new 11 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:13,280 representative from the selectman MR Joan Brunell here thank you here uh so 12 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:19,759 we got a full board tonight welcome board You full voting members alternates 13 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:25,880 usual chime in do whatever you want just can't vote um yep welcome to Mr John 14 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:31,439 Brunell as our Board of selectman rep we're excited about that and so have you 15 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,439 been on the Conservation Commission I think I served the Conservation 16 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:39,439 Commission for a year once before cool as a selectman as a selectman's w yes 17 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:44,560 well it's a good group it is aoup I think you'll have some fun I look 18 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:50,640 forward to it uh first item public input related to non agenda items uh this is 19 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:54,640 this a person here for this Rob and Rob is our new member interview so he is on 20 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,439 the agenda we've got that on the agenda so seeing nobody's here we're going to 21 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:03,200 open it at 6:33 and close it Harry at 22 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:08,520 633 new business Route 3A cleanup wow look at 23 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:15,160 first thing all right we're g to get this out of the way right now Joan how 24 00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:21,920 does um April 25th sound 25 00:02:17,959 --> 00:02:26,160 calendar it's a April excuse me April 27th is Saturday 26 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:37,680 I can do April 27th I think on the curve going towards 27 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:41,599 this Griffin we're going to need three people it's it's really bad right now 28 00:02:39,959 --> 00:02:46,280 it's really bad plus that's you have to watch traffic well maybe we can get 29 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:50,760 anide that's like we have done in the past that curves I always do that corner 30 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,040 that's my corner that's so for the U I've only 31 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,640 been hit a couple times for the public just so that you know what we're talking 32 00:02:56,319 --> 00:03:02,760 about is that the Lichfield Conservation Commission is respons responsible for 33 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:08,440 doing cleanup between Hill Crest and Pine Crest and we do it twice a year and 34 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:15,959 some for some reason that curve around by Griffin is a magnet for laat blue 35 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:20,599 trip X's I don't know anybody that drinks that Jason I don't know no bud 36 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:24,159 lights no no Bud Lights it's only the good stuff that's a good thing I noticed 37 00:03:22,519 --> 00:03:28,799 there's a lot of cans around that corner so the only thing I'm worried about Joan 38 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:32,200 with the 27th I'm fine with that but we got to get out there before the leav 39 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:36,879 start coming in I know we cuz we got to go in deep this year what about oh well 40 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:42,000 I just we did last arbitrarily picked that what uh 20 13 any of those 13 might 41 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:45,840 still be snow 20th anybody around on the 20th I can't do the 20th I can do the 42 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:52,760 13th I don't know if the snow's going to be melted by then that's next Saturday 43 00:03:50,519 --> 00:03:57,760 well Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Saturday you guys can do it without me 44 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,280 we did it in the fall Without You 13th did you do it in the fall without me yep 45 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,920 that's the first one I missed anybody else yeah I'm I'm not I'm it depends on 46 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,920 track season so okay so you're like Sundays are better for me actually if we 47 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:16,639 want you're up in the air I'm up in the air if I if I'm here I'll do it Sundays 48 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:23,440 it be I'm okay with Sundays I'm okay with Sunday I'm okay with Sundays not 49 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:31,120 the 21st though 14th I can do the 14th I don't know we good on the 14th what time 50 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:34,880 if not uh 9:00 a.m. I'll bring a date 900 if not what I won't be able to make 51 00:04:34,039 --> 00:04:41,080 the 14th okay that's okay that's 52 00:04:39,479 --> 00:04:46,479 okay we'll uh cancel if weather so are we 53 00:04:44,039 --> 00:04:51,240 good on the 14th Joan you good with that yeah Fred yes all right Matt so good on 54 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:57,199 a Sunday everybody else Mr Cotto if you can make it if I can make it all right n 55 00:04:52,960 --> 00:05:02,560 o'cl 9:00 on the 14th 9 a. so all right next item on the agenda 56 00:05:00,039 --> 00:05:09,880 natural resource scien scientist dos Joan this is you 57 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:14,680 okay um we have been members for quite a while this is 58 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:18,919 um their acronym is naners New Hampshire Association of natural resource 59 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:24,039 scientists and it's worth the $30 because they do some good workshops and 60 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:29,319 then you get discountable workshops so we've 61 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:32,560 been part of this organization for years a while all right and they give a they 62 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,520 give a Conservation Commission membership at 63 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:43,720 $30 anybody want to make a motion to pay the $30 dues I'll make a motion that we 64 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:48,840 pay the $30 due for the natural resources 65 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:53,880 scientist situation we got a motion by Harry we got a seconded by Matt all 66 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:57,280 those in favor say I I I all those opposed motion carries 67 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:05,240 24670 all right um review of conservation 68 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:12,440 bylaws you're up next on skip you're G to skip Rob C Rob is next ABC new member 69 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:17,840 interview you see oh I I changed it up a little bit why don't you come 70 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:24,319 forward you change it after you again I did I I printed it like we're 71 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:29,080 good Diane do you want to lead this um yes sure could you introduce yourself 72 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:36,840 and and tell us where you're from yeah so my name name is Rob Brer um uh I live 73 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:42,160 two roads up on Shirley way so um yeah I'm a Fisheries biologist for a uh 74 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:49,720 private environmental consulting company and uh so I've always been I've lived in 75 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:54,440 town for going on 10 years now um and first moved to town I was a active duty 76 00:06:52,319 --> 00:07:00,280 air Air Force I was stationed down at hansam Air Force Base um so I did uh I'm 77 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:04,720 retired from the Air Force and uh you know went to college became a Fisheries 78 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:10,680 biologist and uh so I've always been interested in the kind of conservation 79 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:14,879 efforts that are kind of ongoing in town and uh it's kind of a shame that I been 80 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:19,759 in town for almost a decade and don't really know what SC really goes the 81 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:24,560 present right yeah right is absolutely so just always been interested in the uh 82 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:29,520 ongoings of town and as far as conservation and land use development 83 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:33,479 natural resources and stuff like that so figured I'd be you know reach out and uh 84 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,199 you know was interested in kind of getting involved with the community and 85 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:42,039 have you had a chance to watch any of our meetings uh I have yes on on 86 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:46,639 Facebook yep okay we have a pretty good term yeah we do a lot it's pretty active 87 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,479 board it's it's a really active does yeah I've looked at the projects the 88 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:56,000 community garden the fishing derby and all that stuff yeah yeah okay um does 89 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,000 anybody have any questions for 90 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:05,879 Rob you filled out your paperwork question do you think you're 91 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:11,199 overqualified I might be I might be what do you do as a uh what do you do as a 92 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:16,599 what' you say a fishery a Fisheries biologist what does that entail so I 93 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:20,879 work a lot it's it's I do a lot of very I've got a very kind of diverse 94 00:08:18,479 --> 00:08:25,479 portfolio as far as different projects I work on so like I said I'm an 95 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:30,639 environmental consultant and um so we deal with clientele uh whether it's 96 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:35,599 federal state or other private CL cents uh like as a subcontractor or something 97 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:41,479 like that and um so I deal with pretty much everything involves you know 98 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:48,720 Fisheries um so whether it's like fish hatcheries or no so Fisheries habitat uh 99 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:53,600 Fisheries passage uh even dealing with like aquatic organisms plant W about 100 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:59,000 vernal pools uh vernal pools is more on wetlands and stuff like that so what 101 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:03,240 about mil foil mil foil um we'll do mil foil cyano bacteria stuff like that yeah 102 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:08,040 I'm doing a project right now we got one for cyano bacteria water quality uh 103 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:12,440 water quality sampling all that type of stuff I do all water quality sampling 104 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:18,000 water quality parameter monitoring so I've got a very diverse portfolio but 105 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:22,360 pfoa pfoa P fast all that stuff yeah is it fresh water or salt water you 106 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:27,040 specialize in both uh primarily fresh water Fisheries yes that's one of my 107 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:33,839 experti is in uh you know Northeast you know freshwater fish identification uh 108 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:38,279 but a dein marine and you know kind of you know inner tile in you know inner 109 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Lakes so stuff we could use them to help us on N Brook yeah yeah yeah 110 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:49,200 yeah down there Rob right so I'm an a fishermen as well obviously so you've 111 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:53,279 been down to park I fished you know I fish I fished all around town Ness and 112 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:58,320 keg and dar Pond and all that stuff so I've done quite a fishing you know quite 113 00:09:54,680 --> 00:10:04,560 a bit of fishing around town so but n i my main focus though is is Hydro power 114 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:11,000 so I I I like uh design fabricate and install fish passage systems um all 115 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:16,279 across New England midatlantic like so they get from Brooks to larger bodies of 116 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:20,480 water yeah migratory species mainly dams over Dam over dams so like mainly kind 117 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:26,959 of focusing in eels and alisin or your River Herring salmon salmon yeah do so I 118 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:31,959 I do uh uh radio telemetry or you know stuff like that to monitor salmon uh 119 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:37,160 where actually we Tagg salmon and stuff like that actually just um uh we just uh 120 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:42,320 this winter actually just a couple weeks ago we had a we got 40 brown trout brown 121 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:49,360 trout smol that we kind of did like a track a t uh a training seminar on how 122 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:54,800 to tag um smol so yeah we do a lot of projects where we monitor you know fish 123 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:59,920 passage uh uh kind of doing some Community assessments and stuff like 124 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:02,519 that so but that's pretty much uh it's a there's a lot more but that's pretty 125 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,360 much the synopsis the clip notes of what I do how long have you worked for that 126 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:12,040 company I've been with that company since May of 127 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:18,360 22 so we meet once a month um we've got a full board so we have seven seven 128 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:24,399 voting members and then we have at least right now we have two two alternates 129 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:29,760 right now our bylaws they State any um I don't know I was looking so um so 130 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:36,680 what an alter position is is you're a you're a regular 131 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:42,440 member you can uh participate in any way possible just when we get down to a vote 132 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:46,480 vote yet you can't vote unless there is a full member missing then an alternate 133 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:53,480 me missing during that meeting then an alternate member takes that spot and is 134 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:58,480 able able to vote um and then we do a lot we do a lot between meetings uh we 135 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:02,240 do a lot of land maintenance we do a lot of project type of work which you'll 136 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:08,079 probably hear tonight if you if you hang around oh yeah um yeah so we put some 137 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:13,440 hours in there's no there's no maximum of of alternates in our bylaws uh the 138 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:18,360 process did you fill out the the online survey I did fill out the online form 139 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:23,360 and then I was sent another form yeah the second form is the detailed more 140 00:12:20,839 --> 00:12:25,839 detailed one more detailed form I forgot to print that out was I supposed to 141 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:30,440 bring that one to me tonight or is I just email that one back well it the 142 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:34,560 board will probably recommend you to the selectman and then turn that into the 143 00:12:32,199 --> 00:12:37,680 selectman get it to Kim Kleiner the Town Administrator then get an interview with 144 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:42,680 the selectman as well because they appoint okay so it's a two-part process 145 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:48,360 so right here is your interview with us and then we make a recommendation to uh 146 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:52,440 recommend you to the board of Selectmen and the board of Selectmen will actually 147 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:56,399 appoint you as an alternate so we don't we don't appoint as an alternate we make 148 00:12:54,839 --> 00:13:01,360 the recommendation Board of selectman makes the appointment okay sounds great 149 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:06,000 Mr brunell's our Board of Selectmen meet you and then you have to be sworn in by 150 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:10,760 the town clerk on once it's s pass by the select right so I make a motion that 151 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,079 we send a letter to the board of Selectmen saying that we'd like to have 152 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:23,399 Rob join us as an alternate do I have a second second okay uh anybody have any 153 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:28,320 other questions at all Mr Coto anything we have a lot of fishing people here M I 154 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:33,160 heard I heard there's a lot of Fisher my fisherman or I'm an avid fly fish all 155 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:38,120 kinds of fishing so I do I do freshwater and and Marine fly fly fishing both type 156 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:44,880 of music country and western exactly loose brother reference right 157 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:52,560 there um so we have a motion by Diane Diane seconded by John uh all 158 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:57,000 those in favor say I I all those oppos abstain motion passes 70 and that can be 159 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:01,079 an email too you have any got questions for us Kim Kleiner no I'm in 160 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:08,519 oh not to the select but as far as right now well that 161 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:12,160 goes to okay good call M what yeah any questions do you have any questions of 162 00:14:09,959 --> 00:14:16,720 us oh I was just saying uh not no not right now but in time they'll probably 163 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:21,480 come but it's just it's definitely something something I'm very interested 164 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:25,720 in we also give um input to the zoning board and planning board on projects 165 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:30,480 that come in Wetlands that's good to know I've done um I used to do some Land 166 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Development land you so work for another company uh down in Amherst and you you 167 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:41,440 know dealing with kind of uh Dees and so mher New Hampshire or mher New Hampshire 168 00:14:39,199 --> 00:14:47,320 yeah environmental permitting and that stuff so Wetlands background um no I I 169 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:50,720 can I have education in wetlands and uh and all that stuff but I'm not a 170 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:56,639 certified Wetland scientist or anything like that still education is good so 171 00:14:53,639 --> 00:15:00,800 that Joe brings up a good point so any any development that comes in town that 172 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:05,279 impacts for the most part A Wetlands or a Wetlands buffer that comes before us 173 00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:08,320 and then we make recommendations that end up going to the planning board yeah 174 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:13,920 so I've done yeah I've dealt with the wet Mike's the chairman of the plan oh 175 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:19,600 nice that's awesome Okay small town all right yeah yeah cool so we'll get an 176 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:24,959 email Joan right is that so we'll get an email to the Town 177 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:28,519 Administrator um she will most likely put you on the agenda for the board of 178 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:34,839 Selectmen the next meeting I think is next is on Monday Monday yeah okay um so 179 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:39,000 it may happen then it may happen two weeks two weeks from Monday we have your 180 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:43,199 email address yeah sure it's uh do you want to now uh why just write it down 181 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:50,720 for me paper here okay uh let's do that here sheet of 182 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:50,720 paper then she can get you an 183 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:58,519 appointment all right good while you're doing that we're going to move on with 184 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:04,160 the agenda and uh you're welcome to hang out we got a lot of things going on 185 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:08,560 tonight he's planning on to um concert so we're now at the review of bylaws so 186 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,079 I wanted to just take a second and put the bylaws up on the screen and just see 187 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:18,319 if anybody has uh just to do a really quick three minute overview of them just 188 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:22,839 to see if anybody has any any questions and actually from Mr Brunell I 189 00:16:21,079 --> 00:16:30,920 don't know if you've I just looked at them got a chance to look at these 190 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,920 things conservation bylaws thank you 191 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,399 you there we 192 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:44,560 go I we try to do this once a year just to make sure that we're all 193 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:49,519 kind of on the same page in regards to this okay so I'm going to scroll through 194 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:55,440 it real quick and I'll we haven't had any updates since 2022 on it right nope 195 00:16:52,399 --> 00:17:00,959 I don't even I don't think 2005 yeah it's been a long time um I have a i I 196 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:04,039 think that we should look I'm going to read through it Diane just real quick so 197 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:09,000 we go in order and then we can see if we've got any issues then we 198 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:14,319 can we would have to deliberate those at an at another another meeting um so the 199 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:18,600 purpose to study natural resources of the town and make proper recommendations 200 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:24,039 to the selectman planning board and town programs on the better use development 201 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:29,880 and preservation of the town's natural resources uh B acquire by purchase Grant 202 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:35,360 trust easement or gift such Parcels of land that may be available for 203 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:40,840 conservation or recreational purposes C to manage such acquired land until such 204 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:45,960 time as it properly becomes the responsibility of another town 205 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:51,280 organization D to inform local residents about various aspects of the town's 206 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:57,159 natural resources and E to perform whatever other duties pertinent under 207 00:17:53,280 --> 00:18:02,919 rsa's 36a which governs conservation commissions um under the membership line 208 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:07,360 the Conservation Commission shall be comprised of seven 209 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:12,600 members on a rotating basis three-year terms and alternates appointments are 210 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:17,240 made by the Lichfield Board of Selectmen and B Lichfield Conservation Commission 211 00:18:15,159 --> 00:18:22,280 members missing three consecutive meetings can be kicked out of the 212 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:29,640 club that's what it says um government officers include 213 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:34,280 chair Vice chair and secretary terms of office all officers are elected annually 214 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:38,480 after April appointments and are made by the board 215 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:43,799 of Selectmen and the terms of office will begin immediately we're going to do 216 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:49,559 that tonight an officer May hold his post no more than two consecutive terms 217 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:56,400 however upon unanimous vote of a quorum an officer may serve an additional term 218 00:18:53,120 --> 00:19:02,679 for not more than a total of four terms consecutive so there's a two two-year 219 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:06,720 term but if you're voted in you get two additional years if it's 220 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:11,600 unanimous um eligibility all duly appointed members 221 00:19:08,919 --> 00:19:17,919 of the Conservation Commission shall be eligible for any office in that 222 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:23,799 organization except for the limitations under Article 4 B which is the two 223 00:19:22,159 --> 00:19:27,960 consecutive term thing uh then it goes into the duties I 224 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:33,440 won't go through here I'll just paraphrase chairman presides over the 225 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:37,720 meeting Vice chair fills in in the absence of the chair the secretary keeps 226 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:42,520 the minutes and attendance notifies Conservation Commission 227 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:48,039 members uh meetings are held monthly uh and that's a and then B we 228 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:51,880 need a quorum of four members to conduct our 229 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:57,600 business and then under voting in no case shall Maj majority be less than 230 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:01,280 three votes if it's a tie vote things it's a loss 231 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:05,480 and the chairman may vote at meetings but shall not have more than one vote 232 00:20:04,159 --> 00:20:12,360 why would a chair have more than one vote interesting Robert's Rules of 233 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:18,720 orders and any amendments um we can discuss any amendments and amend the 234 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:21,880 bylaws at any given point in time can they be voted at the same meeting do you 235 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:29,559 have to public hearing believe you are right that's in 236 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:34,799 the amendment section is it SA at the next meeting it says in the third 237 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:39,520 line shall vote on whether to consider amendments for the next meeting so you 238 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:44,720 can make them where does it say that the last paragraph the third line line 239 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:48,360 [Music] down so it doesn't say it has to be a 240 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:53,200 well this is a public doesn't have to be a public hearing but no you have to 241 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:57,559 notice for a public hearing you I think what it's saying is that you can't make 242 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,559 a change to the bylaws that meeting that meeting and then vote on that meting 243 00:20:59,159 --> 00:21:04,880 okay so that'll be the next meeting um but but we could discuss it this we 244 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:10,600 should know proposed 245 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:17,320 change anybody got any issues with those I don't know that other boards um 246 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:21,919 limit the chair to to certain amount of years does anybody know that I know 247 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:28,200 you've been chair forever over it at planning and Laura's been Sher for they 248 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:32,880 don't the other boards don't limit it no I don't know a bad thing I was chairman 249 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,880 for about 15 years yeah I think but I think there's 250 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:42,559 an exception if there's nobody else in the same unanimous vot right or no one 251 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,679 actually gets stepped up I think the board of selectman are looking at their 252 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:51,159 bylaws that haven't been viewed in a while and that has the same stipulation 253 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:55,840 it's two two terms you oh does oh okay there's a there's the same exception 254 00:21:52,720 --> 00:22:00,720 some no one else does it that carries on but okay yeah 255 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:06,600 anything should we have something in there that says I don't how to word it 256 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:13,679 but excuse me Matt Lor had brought this up that a commission member should not 257 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:18,360 be speaking outside of a meeting as representing the commission unless 258 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:24,440 they've been told that in in a meeting I recall that and that was a a 259 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:29,200 separate policy that he adopted I don't think it just ever got referenced 260 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:34,320 into that might be something to think about y um that just unlik can't we 261 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:40,039 can't speak about anything unless it's been pre preapproved representing the 262 00:22:36,919 --> 00:22:45,279 commission outside of a meeting if unless the board has sent you off to do 263 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:50,440 some particular job which is how we have been operating yeah um makes sense it 264 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:55,120 does make sense to be added all right so maybe we can dig that 265 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:58,960 up at the next next meeting and and think about that I don't think it's a 266 00:22:56,919 --> 00:23:03,000 bad idea it's just you're representing the commission you just got 267 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:08,039 to make sure that it's the commission's statement instead of an 268 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,039 individual 269 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:18,880 statement all right cool anything else moveing right 270 00:23:14,919 --> 00:23:18,880 along now to the fun 271 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:29,799 stuff old business so we got a lot of old business here so uh the gavel might 272 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:35,400 come out except for George because George comes with 273 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:47,159 Graphics uh pollinator Garden update talk um I have not had very much luck uh 274 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:53,559 coordinating the community center with UNH 275 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:59,080 either UNH couldn't meet their dates or the fire department had already reserved 276 00:23:56,159 --> 00:24:05,279 the room and I've tried to two or three times and I'm going to try one more time 277 00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:12,320 and I'm going to try I think the second week in May and 278 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:18,279 see how that works out and if we have to push it out you 279 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:22,720 know a month or two push it out a month or two okay yeah yeah I mean well 280 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:28,559 gardening stuff should probably be happening sooner than later because yeah 281 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:34,720 because I I fill out the form and i' give it to the fire department and then 282 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:39,399 I'd follow up with them saying you know 283 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:47,600 oh uh I guess I forgot to tell you that date was taken and it just it's 284 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:53,600 been just bring we know a guy we know a guy who knows about scheduling how's 285 00:24:49,720 --> 00:25:00,120 that how's that work in the evening so looking at Tuesday the 7th and Thursday 286 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:05,039 the 9th the community room is available is that in May that's in 287 00:25:02,399 --> 00:25:10,880 May and if you want it I can ask I can put a block in for 288 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:19,520 both days to decide which day it is um let me send an email to un H now 289 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:26,039 which dates did you say the um 7th 7th and the 9th a Tuesday and a Thursday May 290 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:29,679 May and they appear to be open they are currently open doesn't mean that there 291 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,840 is somewh trying to get booked into it but right now they're currently I know 292 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:38,559 um I I'm happy to call tomorrow and make sure that they 293 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:43,559 arew you trying to book it and I'll block it all right let me now do I still 294 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:48,480 have to fill out the the form for the fire department I'll ask for you but 295 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:53,440 we'll get it reserved for you yeah John when the fire department's 296 00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:57,600 using that room y does that typically go on the C the town calendar uh well it's 297 00:25:55,399 --> 00:26:01,799 not the town calendar it's it's on their community calendar calendar it doesn't 298 00:25:59,159 --> 00:26:05,320 show up in the town calendar okay so um so we can't see that we can't see if 299 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,640 they block it probably not that the typically the room is blocked on 300 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:15,480 Wednesday evening is the fire department um there are a lot of other um Community 301 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:20,480 organizations using the room so it is getting used a lot outside of town 302 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:29,240 me ouch so yeah one time I had fill out the 303 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:34,480 form yeah and uh he said okay and then he had to call me 304 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,559 back and said oops and that could have been a town meeting conflict too 305 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:43,039 unfortunately because it will trump it will tend sometimes trumpet but I I I'll 306 00:26:41,159 --> 00:26:48,240 talk to him tomorrow to make sure and if so I'll just I'll block it there does 307 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:53,919 really get his emails May 7th is a planning board again so TR for the nth 308 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,679 which night May 7th is the planning board planning board so that cuts down 309 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:02,200 you she would like to be there is what you're saying be at the planning board 310 00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:06,600 so it has to be that I mean have to try for seventh or night whatever you can 311 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:11,039 har you got this it sounds like it's either seventh or 9th communicate if you 312 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,200 if we need to kick it out we'll kick it out okay why don't you give John your 313 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:18,640 phone number too because that way he doesn't try to go through email with you 314 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:22,520 and you can't find it whatever um so for the folks on the line all 10 people 315 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:26,679 watching uh there's going to be a pollinator talk at the fire station at 316 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,399 some given point in time in the near future knock on wood all works out good 317 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:39,240 we will get there thanks um next item on the agenda Moors fall sidewalk update uh 318 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:45,600 get this one so if if you guys remember correctly a couple of months ago we got 319 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:51,640 a the developer for Corning Farm which is the horse farm came in and discussed 320 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:56,200 putting a sidewalk across Moors Falls to be able to make that connection 321 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:59,960 eventually over to the bike path um we've been running around for like the 322 00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:06,000 past last three months or so on that we finally got a plan for it today at like 323 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:10,360 2: p.m. and it's up it's up in the portal um I'll give you guys a quick 324 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:16,960 look at it I don't know if there's really much action that we need to take 325 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:21,840 on this uh Joan well we need to we need to send us to the fishing game yeah so 326 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:27,240 let's just take like a quick look at what what they 327 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:33,200 did and all right and then did you have a contact that at uh New England power 328 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:38,760 National Grid we'll have to send it to them as well this doesn't have a great 329 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:42,320 PDF viewer John no it does not agre but I'm going to try 330 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:48,120 to it's actually looks like it's it's much clearer when you open it up but um 331 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,159 the point right right here on the side of the screen I don't know Matt if you 332 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:57,399 can just like point to it for the people where my mouse is you know that's the 333 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:01,760 the exit of the Horse Farm property right you see that can you point right 334 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:07,120 to where yeah right where that is and then the entrance to moris Falls is down 335 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:11,880 on the leftand side of the screen and they are proposing the sidewalk is going 336 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:17,760 to basically hug the fence it's going to go around the power pole right there and 337 00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:23,720 then come all the way down and then end at the at the parking lot cool so they 338 00:29:21,159 --> 00:29:27,760 provided that design and then the important thing here and unfortunately 339 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:34,519 can't see it cuz I got to get a better View were uh but these are a a vertical 340 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:39,519 profile of that and that's what the National Grid wanted and um I don't 341 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:43,600 think the state cares about the vertical but National Grid needed that vertical 342 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:49,200 and those little numbers there State the height of the the 343 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:56,720 wires and then and then the elevation of the ground so I think everything what 344 00:29:52,880 --> 00:30:03,000 was the uh final result on the surface is it going to be stone dust or we don't 345 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:08,080 well that's up to the state didn't they say no pavement right we're hoping for I 346 00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:14,360 think we're hoping for pavement okay yeah so we're going to stick with that 347 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:20,440 for now but we we'll find out from building yeah um so anybody got any 348 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:25,559 questions on that at all it's going on the inside of the 349 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:30,360 fence in inside of the fence pretty much hugging the fence line and then going 350 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:37,000 around that one power pole what about those trees uh the trees that we they're 351 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:40,679 they're probably on the inside on the map the trees would be that that 352 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,519 shouldn't interfere with the trees they're on the outside of the trees it 353 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,960 looks like so it's so the trees are and and the path is on the other 354 00:30:47,159 --> 00:30:55,080 side of the trees if those little dots are trees if you zoom in so is the oh 355 00:30:53,320 --> 00:31:00,320 there you see those little dots between the road and no no no no below closer 356 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:04,760 all those yeah all those there those must be trees they that's all they could 357 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:09,840 be I'm thinking now the fence when it comes into the fence in the parking area 358 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,480 is are we going to be responsible to replace that or they're going to they're 359 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,360 going to do they're going to take care of that 360 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:22,480 for because would they go around the fence or they going to the the plan 361 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:27,000 shows it it ending you know where about the sign is where we have the little 362 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:31,720 sign it's most likely going to end there and then exit it 363 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:37,080 onto Route 3A essentially through the r gate yeah and then if the if the gas 364 00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:41,320 station ever gets built it's going to pick up from there right right okay and 365 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:47,279 the existing fence is still going to stay there yeah 366 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:50,960 better there's 101 holes dug there 80 pounds of concrete per hole do the 367 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,519 ma um uh okay what's the next step are you 368 00:31:55,799 --> 00:32:02,000 going to get a hold of National Grid and then yeah so the so the next steps we 369 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:06,240 got to get this plan to two places fishing game and National Grid I'll take 370 00:32:04,639 --> 00:32:10,919 care of National Grid if you'll take care of fishing 371 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:16,159 game and then it the balls in their Court fishing game she said might take a 372 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:20,519 while I don't think it'll be this year he wanted to do the footing on the 373 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:28,480 bedding on in the winter but I think we're past that 374 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:33,240 yep all right anything else on on that hearing none next item on the agenda 375 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:39,159 dupon mil foil update um I don't have too much to say 376 00:32:36,639 --> 00:32:43,480 he's I did send him uh the list of abutters and I think I copied you guys 377 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:49,919 with the email so I went through the tax map got all the ab Butter's names and 378 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:53,240 addresses sent it to him um and he replied saying thank you for the you 379 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:58,320 know he received the email I think he's still waiting for his um permits to be 380 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,559 applied by the state um so we're in a waiting game we haven't paid him any 381 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:08,120 money you know he said once he gets his permits applied with the um pesticides 382 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:13,639 or herbicides that he's going to use um then he'll ask for um the first 383 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:18,639 installment um for the the amount that we owned so and and the Town 384 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:23,039 Administrator wants to know when all this is happening and what's happening 385 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:29,120 because of the storm water ms4 permit she needs to know anything happens with 386 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,120 the water 387 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:37,519 well when I when I know I'll let her know and I I need to know sorry I need 388 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:44,120 to know for that um study that they're doing through um Dees right so like to 389 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:48,480 get out there before he gets out there yeah and I I don't think I I'll reach 390 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:52,279 out to him again to find out if he knows exactly what okay what date or and he's 391 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,880 just going to give me a ballpark the the big question is is the 392 00:33:54,679 --> 00:34:01,720 ball rolling on his end like the ball he has applied for the pr 393 00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:08,520 gotta yeah okay does any clue on how long that that takes no and this guy is 394 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:13,200 kind of a unique duck so you know if I if I push him too hard and he's our only 395 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:17,159 option I don't want to you know push him away but so I'm trying not to pound on 396 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,599 him you know I was I was going to him once a month you know um but I'll hit 397 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,919 I'll reach out to him again to see exactly where we are our Target was like 398 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:33,359 June right I think so cool have you heard any feedback from 399 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:39,960 any of the abuts at all I'm just curious um so we went and talked with Susan 400 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:45,639 Brown um she um lives just outside the ball field there on what gr Lane gr 401 00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:52,440 lanean so she had mentioned there's this flooding of um Tera Pond and she brought 402 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:56,240 it to the attention of us the highway department and the building inspector um 403 00:34:54,919 --> 00:35:00,920 I think I pushed her towards the building inspector so 404 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:06,280 I went out and spoke with her and Matt was there too and we took a look at her 405 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:10,359 concerns um and it maybe that the pond is just overflowing because of all the 406 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:14,640 rain that we had um typically we would have snow pack and it would melt in a 407 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:18,760 controlled fashion and I think all the rain that we had in December and January 408 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:25,760 probably just filled the pond up higher than it should be but anyways she was 409 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:28,240 all for the mil foil um and she was talking to somebody on the other side of 410 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,160 the pond who was in a butter of the pond who was 411 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:37,599 all for it as well so that's two out of the six are all for it so 412 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:43,280 basically people are uh happy with everybody I've talked 413 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,320 to about it has sounded happy you know people who have been fishing there or 414 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:51,359 people walking you know I've seen them um walking on the in the beach area I've 415 00:35:48,839 --> 00:35:56,319 talked to them cool people have to be aware that that 416 00:35:53,720 --> 00:36:00,680 is a kettlehole pond it's glacial created it has no in her Outlet I did 417 00:35:58,839 --> 00:36:05,640 take a ride down grass to see what was happening and it's flooding in the 418 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:10,520 marshy area her house is up high enough not a problem but the um it's the two 419 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:16,560 well the two production Wells have been shut off too so the pond is coming 420 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:21,200 back what was that last thing you said Joe the two production Wells excuse me 421 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:27,440 on um off uh behind near the off Mal uh not 422 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:32,520 Mard wood hawkway they have been shut down for a while because of 423 00:36:28,839 --> 00:36:38,119 contamination of gas so that has brought the pond back they were that pond is in 424 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:43,760 the cone of influence of those Wells as is perch pond so those all those ponds 425 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:48,079 are coming back to where they should be and for years they told you that they 426 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:51,440 weren't affecting them the geologist from un said turn the wells off for two 427 00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:56,560 weeks and you'll see how the pond comes back 428 00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:01,480 exactly cool well good okay thank you for that uh Parker Park Bridge update 429 00:36:59,319 --> 00:37:08,440 George okay um I since you wanted Graphics I gave 430 00:37:04,319 --> 00:37:13,079 you a a little if you go to the view um you can go to slideshow mode I think 431 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:19,680 okay uh let's see where's slideshow mode on this view so file edit view right 432 00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:25,160 there oh there we go and then PowerPoint guy so yeah this is a Google Slides or 433 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:32,400 something same thing it's free oh can you scroll up to the uh 434 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:37,560 uh yes okay that's good enough okay all right so um I made this little 435 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:40,760 PowerPoint today just to uh you know have you guys take a look at what the 436 00:37:39,319 --> 00:37:45,119 options are for the different types of bridges that we could put in there and 437 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:49,640 the work I've done um with this FR FRP Bridge so next slide please so we have 438 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:55,520 basically three different types of bridges um one is called the Rainbow 439 00:37:53,280 --> 00:38:02,160 Bridge with homemade trusses um you can buy Plan plans from this company rainbow 440 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:07,440 Bridges online and Jason had sent a video to me and Matt I think about this 441 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:12,440 trust and Trust system so this would be a a truss that we would handmake um and 442 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:17,240 we could um build a bridge ourselves building our own trusses uh we could 443 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:22,000 also use a steel ibeam uh we were this is the type of bridge that you see at um 444 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:26,640 Hidden Creek and pasic Conway so they use steel ey beams for their support and 445 00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:33,200 then uh the third one is the F FRP fiberglass rein fored plastic and 446 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:40,720 basically it's I beams or trusses made out of this fiberglass reinforced 447 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:45,560 plastic okay so I get you so these are a couple pictures of what this uh Rainbow 448 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:49,119 Bridge truss would look like um I just grabbed a couple of them off the 449 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:54,960 internet but if we were to do it we would have to make a a much better 450 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:59,560 railing system um I'm not 100 sure 100% sure if we have to be ADA Compliant um 451 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:05,200 but ada8 compliance means you can't put a 4ft ball through any of the holes in 452 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:11,119 the bridge okay so I don't know if that's an option but that's a picture of 453 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:15,839 the Rainbow Bridge go ahead yeah so this is a picture of one of the 454 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:20,480 bridges on um at Hidden Creek Hidden Creek and 455 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:25,599 there's a there's a couple of Steel I beams um running across there and so the 456 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:29,640 ibeam carries the span weight and they have concrete pockets on either side of 457 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:35,079 these Bridges and you put your decking on top okay 458 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:40,119 pre-cast the yeah you well you have to well in this case there's concrete 459 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,760 and I don't think it's pre-cast I think they poured it there okay but this is 460 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:50,319 just a picture of what it looks like and we would have to put railings okay and 461 00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:55,359 then this is the um uh FR FRP Bridge the bridge on the left is the actual style 462 00:39:53,000 --> 00:40:00,480 that we're going to we would we would use um which has 463 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:04,240 I beams along the bottom the one on the right um actually has their own little 464 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:09,000 truss support so you can see how the the trusses stick out 465 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:14,760 um that the trust style bridge is required if you go over 25 ft and it's 466 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:23,119 much more expensive um this the ibeam style on the left is the we can do for 467 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:29,319 25 ft how how wide is it again how um so I went and got a um another price qu 468 00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:34,160 originally I priced it at5 foot wide I priced it at 4 feet wide and the price 469 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:40,760 came down significantly so um I'll I'll be addressing that SP that you have to 470 00:40:36,359 --> 00:40:45,440 25t 25t will 25 work yes yeah okay next slide 471 00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:49,079 get okay so here here's the pros and cons on these various different um 472 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:54,480 designs okay if we do the homemade trust it's the cheapest right um we just be 473 00:40:51,560 --> 00:41:00,160 buying 2 by 12s and nailing them together okay um and we won't need 474 00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:05,079 really large Machinery to put them in place because they're I mean they may be 475 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:10,359 2 or 300 lounds each but we can put the trusses in by hand okay we might need to 476 00:41:08,359 --> 00:41:14,560 have some guy wires to put them across but we could do it um the cons are that 477 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,800 it will deteriorate over time because it's wood it could be pressure treated 478 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:24,680 but it would still Pro probably um deteriorate uh we would have to build it 479 00:41:22,359 --> 00:41:28,960 so we'd have to be using hand tools and this and that um there may be liability 480 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,480 ISS isues involved because you know we're using these plans off the internet 481 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:37,480 and we are building it I don't know if I want to put my name to a bridge that 482 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:41,839 some kid it collapses and they drown but whatever and then how long will it take 483 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:45,960 to build right so you'd have to put these trusses together right then we 484 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:53,000 have to go I think the cons are Pros okay next next slide like liabil 485 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:59,319 nobody likes using Cary though so steel I beam next so so it's pretty 486 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:04,640 structurally sound right you know it the the steel isn't second least expensive 487 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:09,440 or keep going second least expensive right the cons is that you know you've 488 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:14,520 got this 25t steel ibeam that you have to somehow get in there so we can get 489 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:20,000 heavy machinery on one side but maybe not the other side right so it kind of 490 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:23,720 hard to get that helicopter helicopter um we still would have to do the 491 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:28,319 building of the decking and the railings um and again that may deteriorate over 492 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:34,000 time and we do need a structural engineer to size that beam so it's 493 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:37,960 beyond our Layman you know so it's not all that hard oh we got a fishery guy 494 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,839 here he's probably under his I mean you tell them you tell them the length of 495 00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:45,839 the span what you're going to be using it for and they'll give you the weight 496 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:51,960 so it's okay I've sort of done it but I haven't priced out the ibeam 497 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:57,520 itself okay and then this FRP um what's FRP stand for again fiberglass 498 00:42:53,880 --> 00:43:02,640 reinforced plastic all right okay um it's easy to to assemble um I looked at 499 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:07,760 a uh for service study and they said they built one in 3 hours with five 500 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:13,280 people it was a 22t bridge so they put it together um in 3 hours um it's 501 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:18,119 basically an Erector Set it's got a bunch of galvanized bolts and you bolt 502 00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:22,480 it together um it's no heavy equipment it won't rot and the key is it's 503 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:27,359 engineered by somebody else to carry the load and we don't have to worry about it 504 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:32,359 it does cost the most um it will will be drop shipped here or it'll come in on a 505 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:38,280 trailer we would have to unload the trailer um it's be a couple of I think 506 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:45,760 maybe three pallets would have to come off um and if you don't like that light 507 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:51,800 green color that could be a con but okay next slide yep okay I have a question on 508 00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:57,839 that one y what happens if a a big tree hits the fiberglass Bridge it's going to 509 00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:02,040 break it'll break it'll break like well but it's going to be the same thing 510 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:08,200 that if it be if same thing if it was a Wood Bridge well not if it was a steel I 511 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:12,920 beam not if it's a steel I but hold that thought okay so George has got 512 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:18,680 everything covered don't go George I do so um I read the study and there's a 513 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:23,400 link and actually this um presentation is in the portal right and I did update 514 00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:27,640 the PDF file that I or the the word document I had with a whole bunch of 515 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,599 more information so um and there are clickable links now okay so you don't 516 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:36,440 have to okay so if properly designed for the 517 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:42,319 load these things work very well but it's they had one collapse on them and 518 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:45,800 they ran a Mule Train carrying bags of cement across this bridge that was only 519 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:50,440 designed for pedestrians and it collapsed but thankfully no mules or 520 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:54,839 people were hurt okay so it's good to know okay so they did in the part of the 521 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:58,599 study they says you know you can't like Nick these things up and and scratch 522 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:03,000 them you know it's the fiberglass supports and whatnot so you don't want 523 00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:07,400 to be like banging them on rocks um when you're you can Nick them up no you can't 524 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,520 Nick them up so you don't you mean it's hard to Nick them up or you shouldn't 525 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:15,280 Nick them you shouldn't Nick them up okay all right and um in one of the 526 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:19,400 bridges in a couple of places they um were using impact guns or something to 527 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:24,359 put the bolts in and they overtightened some of them and it compromise a couple 528 00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:29,480 of the holes um but it didn't compromise the bridge in totality but um there was 529 00:45:27,319 --> 00:45:34,960 just a couple of things to mention and one of the ones there was a study in 530 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:39,160 Arizona or something and in um very hot temperatures because it is plastic it 531 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:45,440 will give a little bit more but it's designed to to handle that um so that's 532 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:52,359 that so coal doesn't bother coold doesn't 533 00:45:46,359 --> 00:45:55,880 bother okay so we um had the pile um one of the pile companies come out and take 534 00:45:54,319 --> 00:46:02,000 a look at our two locations we had like a 30ft location in a 25t location across 535 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,960 the bank and it turned out this 25t section he thought was the best this is 536 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:12,680 the second one the one that's farther down uh near the corner of the um stream 537 00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:17,880 where we cut the trees down dog legs okay where dog legs so this picture is 538 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:23,800 taken from the community guard inside of the stream okay and uh you can see I 539 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:27,520 noted that the tree on the right side of the opposite Bank might need to come 540 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:32,599 down so it's in worse condition than the one 541 00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:37,400 that's on the left mostly dead right so we we it would most likely Fall Away 542 00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:44,640 from the bridge but we would take that look the root system might pop exactly 543 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:49,119 and um because we have 25 ft there the tape measure is showing there is 24 ft 544 00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:54,880 and it's off the bank on both sides so there's enough room to put the piles in 545 00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:58,760 um and not have to deal with the roots he thought there might be too much Rock 546 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:06,720 at the other section and that's still on the town parcel that where you are no no 547 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:10,960 no nor yeah we do it is written in the um the easement in the lease that we can 548 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,920 put Bridges there but we if we if this ends up going through we should probably 549 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:22,280 just have a conversation with them just to not nor but get the double thumbs up 550 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:26,280 agrarian agian y next slide next line okay sorry if I'm not going fast enough 551 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,200 no this is good all right so here's a picture of yeah yeah here's a picture of 552 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:37,920 one of those piles that they put into the ground right so it's a three it's a 553 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:44,280 3in wide um um pipe galvanized pipe that they screw in augur in um and they'll be 554 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:48,800 putting in four of them um one you know two on each side and it's going to be a 555 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:53,160 two I beam if the FR FRP thing goes through it it would be two ey beams 556 00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:58,920 whether it was steel or um this plastic Bridge um and travel cost and 557 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:03,319 installation cost whatever it's about 3,000 it might be less a little bit less 558 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:07,800 um for the foundation only for the foundation I have another company um 559 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,880 there's two in the area that do it they were supposed to call me back today I'm 560 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:17,920 going to get another quote from them okay okay thanks so that gets screwed in 561 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:24,559 y and then oh hold on okay never mind need to hold so they put they put a 562 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:29,640 a plate on the top of the thing there so um the cap plate is used to either I 563 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,960 don't know if we would put a a steel component or is that a u yeah it's a u 564 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:37,680 well he has a number of different attachments depending upon what your 565 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:42,119 application is so it could bolt directly to the ibeam or he said we might want to 566 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:47,720 put a steel plate on there and Bolt the plate to the ibeam depending upon um how 567 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:53,160 it goes and he uses this 4ot wide excavator um that's on the back of his 568 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:58,760 his uh trailer there to put this thing in um okay so how did it get to the 569 00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:02,880 other side though with a for foot next no questions till the end question 570 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:07,960 no questions till the end question shall not be asked an answer work required 571 00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:11,799 before piles can be placed so we must clear a path from the community garden 572 00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:15,960 to the bridge location all right um there's we've looked there's a Spur that 573 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:20,480 goes down and it' be a nice gentle path um there's a tree across it right now 574 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:26,319 that we'd have to cut up um it's already down tree is down but we need to cut it 575 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:31,400 up and so we'd have to trim a path okay and on 576 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:35,760 the the other side um he won't be able to drive down the path all the way there 577 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:40,760 but we would just have to get access from Wilson um to get him in through the 578 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,359 side and there was a couple of places where we thought he could get in okay 579 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:55,480 okay next nice okay so this is the um the 580 00:49:49,880 --> 00:50:01,160 cost um for a 4ft wide um Bridge with the shipping and the files and 581 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:08,040 everything um this is the best quote I found but this came down $5,000 by going 582 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:12,839 from 5 foot wide to 4 foot wide can I can I ask a question do we know what the 583 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:21,960 AA requirement is for a wheelchair go through three okay to be ADA wheelchair 584 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:28,559 right and's not ADA Compliant but well yeah um next question is um do we did we 585 00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:35,119 ever find out what the budget was for this bridge 18,000 in the in the um oh 586 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:41,000 my God you're under budget what that's that's was in the old bridge account 587 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:46,559 Roland had so I've gotten um a couple of quotes for like 25 and $335,000 and I 588 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:53,040 got a reply from a company today saying that um well we here's the price but U 589 00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:58,960 we're actually in Europe and it would cost me 5,000 um pounds in order to ship 590 00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:02,119 it across the you know but I thanked him for this time slow I thought I had 591 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,440 looked at all of the companies some are in Texas some in Pennsylvania I think 592 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:09,920 this currently one company's in Pennsylvania 593 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,440 okay all right next I don't know if I have too much 594 00:51:11,559 --> 00:51:18,960 more okay 595 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:25,920 um so that that was my final opinion you know so if it's going to cost less than 596 00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:29,520 14 Grand probably um and you know it's it's properly constructed we do get to 597 00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:33,359 build something you know we're going to put the whole thing together so there is 598 00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:40,319 some satisfaction of building something um but uh I think it's the best 599 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:44,119 engineered easiest to install solution and it and it might work does that come 600 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:50,480 with the railing that comes with the railing yes good yeah any other um 601 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:54,640 hidden cost that I'm talking hundreds of dollars I'm 602 00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:01,839 talking any anything that's going to pop up that's going to be so to three 603 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:05,920 grand not that I can imagine I you know I will go through it again if we 604 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:09,760 actually going to what kind of tools would you need just regular tools that 605 00:52:07,319 --> 00:52:15,240 you have already to put it together yeah so you need wrenches so it's it's just 606 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:20,640 um a bunch of bolts it's like the Ikea stuff it comes with it yeah I mean so we 607 00:52:18,359 --> 00:52:25,119 can use a screw gun to put together we just make sure the the torque settings 608 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:31,040 aren't just set it right aren't too hard spec um 609 00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:35,160 and you know the ramps you know we might need to construct maybe a small ramp on 610 00:52:33,319 --> 00:52:41,160 either side to build it up if we couldn't get proper grading yes yeah so 611 00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:45,319 that's that's the only and I didn't we're not ordering one of those so we 612 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:50,640 could make wood ones you know to to do that you know is there any um well I had 613 00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:55,880 a couple questions quick hitters uh the beam that goes across that's 25 ft does 614 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,599 that come shipped as a 25 foot beam no it gets 615 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:03,960 it gets plated together it's multiple beams M like eight Footers that we kind 616 00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:07,720 of stagger yes all right so it's it's not it's not straight across right it's 617 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:12,520 going to have no no it's straight no it's straight it is straight yeah option 618 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:18,280 one was the arch AR yeah so this above the water are you then that was my 619 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:23,799 second question um what is can we can we go up at with the screwing thing can we 620 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:27,119 raise the bridge by a foot or something he said with the piling you can go up 621 00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:33,720 about a foot or so you know do add to your share um yeah yeah yeah yeah so um 622 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:38,480 but he said yes you could do that because in the one of the in the higher 623 00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:44,680 location that was going to be required in order for us to put um the bridge in 624 00:53:40,839 --> 00:53:50,720 but so yes and where we are go that but picture it's got a fairly decent Bank 625 00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:55,839 there um it's pretty level on the side the on on the yeah right there on the 626 00:53:53,839 --> 00:54:00,839 side where I am um where the picture is taken from you're quite above the high 627 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:04,640 water mark and I think we're going to be pretty good above the high water mark 628 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:09,319 there yeah I'm concerned about flooding and the the force on the bridge yep yeah 629 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,960 so if we raise it just a little bit I think we're we'll be pretty good yeah 630 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,839 the the the water right now is about a foot below what the high water mark was 631 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:22,480 there it it was still pretty pretty high there and those big trees protect would 632 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:31,000 protect the bridge somewhat on that further side yeah until trees are 633 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:35,440 downam am iow to ask question yes okay uh so actually just talking about that 634 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:38,400 you know the trees protecting the bridge and stuff like that I don't know if this 635 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:43,040 kind of like a question SL maybe food for thought but is there any like 636 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:47,240 environmental permitting as far as like uh stream bank erosion because you're 637 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:51,640 talking about removing trees well we're not removing them well well I thought 638 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:56,440 that was said earlier we're going we're going to we might take the the one 639 00:54:54,119 --> 00:55:00,520 that's partially dead just cut it off we're not going to pull take the root 640 00:54:57,839 --> 00:55:04,839 system you can't pull the stump I do know that Shand 641 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:12,280 protection yeah comply that yeah and that's why you know we're not putting in 642 00:55:10,359 --> 00:55:16,359 those you know we're not going to dig up and put the concrete in we're just going 643 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:21,359 to be placing the piles okay and he's the pile guy said as long as he wasn't 644 00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:26,640 in the water that he was fine with putting the piles outside of the water 645 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:32,160 cool question anybody else got anything where's the pile guy from the guy that 646 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:37,079 does Sal and this other company serves um I can't remember the name of it um uh 647 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:42,440 New Hampshire and mass might be Erikson or something like that I wondered about 648 00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:47,880 Ericson yeah okay uh next next steps so what are you thinking so I you know 649 00:55:45,799 --> 00:55:53,280 since we're spending this money um I'm trying to get three quotes I've gotten 650 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:56,880 two Bridge crots already maybe three bridge crots and I'm trying to get my 651 00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:04,079 second um pile quote and did you hear anything 652 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:07,960 from the state I emailed them yeah I emailed last time right after we got out 653 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:12,160 of the last meeting and I never heard anything back Trails Bureau yeah I sent 654 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:17,000 an email to the trails Bureau and did not heal back and I believe their 655 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:25,240 bridges are they're either telephone pole trusses or um um steel ey beams is 656 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:30,920 that what pum used that those were um Telephone PS Trust did you ever get in 657 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:36,119 touch with P Jay uh no I did not either no cuz they the ones I'll an email just 658 00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:41,960 to see cuz that was a really well-made bridge I do think that those were cement 659 00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:46,280 footings so but I don't know if they're different than what you said shouldn't 660 00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:50,520 be done um but that's a really I think I sent you the video I sent you the video 661 00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:55,039 it's over pretty high and it's pretty far but George's point about it being 662 00:56:52,839 --> 00:57:01,760 engineered I think is the most that's probably it won't a ro 663 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:07,039 well or certified someone's got to or stamp this we send the whole job out to 664 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:12,520 bid and some construction company does everything yeah and I 665 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:21,280 think from the prices that I've seen yeah yeah right so okay um cool so maybe 666 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:25,240 so the next steps like we'd have to firm up everything that you've got it looks 667 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:30,200 like it's like 90% of the way here we would at some point need to talk to The 668 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:34,079 Agrarian trust because it is their property and even though it says we can 669 00:57:31,799 --> 00:57:39,000 put bridges on there we probably would need to make sure that happens and then 670 00:57:36,839 --> 00:57:43,119 if we get super duper serious it's actually in our lease to put those it is 671 00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:47,240 it's in our lease I have our lease right here and it is in our lease to add those 672 00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:50,960 bridges but we should contact them and then as we get super duper serious we 673 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:55,359 have to go to the board of Selectmen right and I you have to do your travel 674 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:59,280 and Road Show there right and but I could give them this and I'd have I 675 00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:06,280 could give all the prices all the bids and I I'm putting all of the bids in in 676 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:10,200 that folder okay so um it can be all there and we could just give them a link 677 00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:17,039 and they can you know go and see it all any um two for one specials just out of 678 00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:22,760 curiosity you we bought two Bridges I'm thinking no but so what 679 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:27,960 about the cost of the sh put the second one so so you want another site down 680 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:32,400 down two in there so two Bridges where you 681 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:35,960 create a loop you say you got four extra K 682 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:41,079 right yeah we have 18,000 I I see where you're going um I 683 00:58:39,319 --> 00:58:45,520 would Pro we have to go I'll have to take a look at possible Bridge sites and 684 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:50,359 see if we can get a shorter one there would be a shorter one U Matt and I or 685 00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:55,160 yeah yeah yeah one one around the corner but let's cross that bridge when we get 686 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:59,640 there or or we could go if you wanted we could go to a three foot wide Bridge 687 00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:05,520 which would be you know cheaper as well so we could do two three Footers um so 688 00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:10,119 that's we could also I don't know if we could squeeze it 689 00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:14,680 in but it's something worth looking at but you have the the pile guy I mean you 690 00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:22,559 you could probably make your own footings and save 691 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:28,359 3,000 yeah but there there's liability yeah right you're saying youve liability 692 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:35,520 part oh you could dig it out and put a a footer in there yes that's how how I see 693 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:39,240 most of the bridges done but yeah okay not suggesting that but just like if 694 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:44,039 there's a if there's a way we I I am not digging anything for a while okay you 695 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:49,920 can dig a dig Lefty so what do you want The letteror Agrarian to say that we're 696 00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:54,680 considering putting a a bridge uh for what excuse me for agrarian do you want 697 00:59:51,480 --> 01:00:01,039 to wait on that uh I yeah I think we should wait on that just for a little 698 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:06,280 bit okay so maybe we can just take one last quick look at it and then next 699 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:09,520 month kind of make a decision and then start moving forward yeah I mean it'd be 700 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:15,760 great if we could George wants to get this done this year that's George I 701 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:19,960 thought it was a stretch goal no I mean I originally was trying to get this done 702 01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:24,280 for the fishing derby and that's a stretch that's not going to happen but 703 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:30,240 that is not going to happen but you know I you got have goals okay I'm good 704 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:39,520 anybody else got any questions nice job my concern on the bridge 705 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:47,200 is erosion because uh every year we lose trees because they you know the soil 706 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:54,559 gets washed away how far over would the these piles be so there they're 707 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:59,119 going to be um I don't know exactly so I haven't gone in we've just done rough 708 01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:06,079 calculations with a tape measure we didn't so I'd have to go um put like a 709 01:01:02,359 --> 01:01:09,839 25t do it for for sure we got probably at least three feet on we're at least 710 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:16,319 three feet off the bank you can see the tape measure yeah so we're 3et off the 711 01:01:12,359 --> 01:01:20,520 BR bank I think both that okay based on the high water 712 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:24,760 situation one of them looks like that would be flooded out no it wasn't cuz we 713 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:29,559 it's very clear where the high water mark was that that's what I saying the 714 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:35,920 the stream in that picture was only like a foot below the high water mark and and 715 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:41,480 and Harry these These are 7t deep poles that go into the ground so it's a it's a 716 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:47,960 3-in pole that's augured 7 feet down or as far as he can go you know um so it 717 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:53,960 would take quite a bit to erode that 7 foot pole I think fooling with Mother 718 01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:56,960 Nature you know true true yep I mean 719 01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:04,720 I don't know it's a lot of things could happen so no it it the flooding is a big 720 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:08,079 concern and the force of the water so I'm more concerned about the force on 721 01:02:06,279 --> 01:02:14,359 the water that's why I like the arch one you at least had yes a little bit more 722 01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:19,319 clearance yeah but I I think if we're up I mean we're going to 723 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:24,839 be above at least 2 feet above the high water Market down sticking up on top of 724 01:02:22,279 --> 01:02:31,319 I think it's worth talking to out who did theirs it's a really nice Bridge um 725 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:34,680 it's over an area similar to that it's up a little 726 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:38,039 higher um I think it's at least worth talking to them about who did it right 727 01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:42,920 and how much were you going to hit me with that yeah so I almost took the gav 728 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:47,079 out because there's too much going on yeah so I I do have this solution right 729 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:51,440 if we find another solution that works that's fine do you know what I mean I 730 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:56,559 I'm not I'm not married to this but out of all my research it looks the decking 731 01:02:54,640 --> 01:03:02,680 on this is a non-slip Sur is that what you said right it's engineered it's like 732 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:08,599 TRX type material but it's I it's semi- textured I believe okay cool but if we 733 01:03:06,359 --> 01:03:14,039 did that one big one and then maybe did a smaller one that was like pelum if we 734 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:18,440 could find out pelum did it cheaper or put put a rope swing across the other 735 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:23,160 spot okay could we maybe a zip line all right uh thank you George so we're 736 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:28,160 moving forward yes we are see all right let's if I get out of this all right 737 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:35,559 right back to the agenda fishing derby update once guest George okay so um I 738 01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:40,240 did reach out to um fishing game and they have not granted us uh the 739 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:44,200 application yet and I think it's Vicky I said Vicky what's what's up you know 740 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:47,520 how's it going and she said well I'm really busy this time of year and I'm 741 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:52,839 working on April and you aren't until May I said okay I'm just checking um so 742 01:03:50,279 --> 01:03:57,960 I guess this is a busy time of year um yeah dealing with those guys you're just 743 01:03:55,799 --> 01:04:01,920 got to be patient yeah well I applied for the ice fishing derby one and I got 744 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:06,839 it back in a couple weeks so I just wanted and she did check with me um 745 01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:12,200 after I submitted the application I said that we did not want it publicized and 746 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:15,799 she wanted to know why um and I told her that it was you know for the kids in 747 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:19,559 town and that we only have a a small area and I said we're not going to turn 748 01:04:17,319 --> 01:04:22,760 away anybody that comes from out of town but you know we have a limited budget 749 01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:29,079 we've been doing this for years blah blah blah so you know I would more wor 750 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:33,160 about the permit because it's the same place that we've had it for the last I 751 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:37,079 don't think they're not going to come in with helicopters and you know fish 752 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:43,520 biologists coming out of the woods to shut us down be Fishers so I even if 753 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:47,680 they don't come back to us I didn't say that in a public form but you know we 754 01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:54,359 should be fine it's your permit to release fish so oh you need it that's 755 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:59,720 fine all right good uh George remind us date and time 756 01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:07,960 uh May the Youth Fishing Derby May 18th May 18th what was the time 8: 757 01:05:03,799 --> 01:05:13,000 a.m. oh you what time 8 to 11 8 to 11 yeah so I guess we're going to need 758 01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:18,920 to well as we get closer maybe um we'll we'll um start with the media blitz cool 759 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,559 and the 17th you have to camp out there to guard the 760 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:27,319 fish that's Harry's job you T what your job is to camp out and fend 761 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:32,359 off the you and Jeff have usual don't worry 762 01:05:30,839 --> 01:05:38,960 we we'll take care of that I don't think Jeff right we we we had that 763 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:45,079 conversation with several people the second year okay all right we good on 764 01:05:42,279 --> 01:05:49,119 the fishing derby yeah and I you know I'm going to be buying some supplies 765 01:05:47,279 --> 01:05:52,559 closer to it oh I went through all of the uh rods and reels did I tell you 766 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:58,279 last time so I went through all the rods and reels um tied on all new hooks put 767 01:05:55,279 --> 01:06:04,520 on B bers and whatnot and so I think we have I don't know 15 or so L of reels 768 01:06:01,799 --> 01:06:08,319 all right I think I've got a handful of my garage that we bought last year that 769 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:12,640 we never ended up using the kids little Zebco ones 770 01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:18,359 yeah if you have more you can drop them off and I can yep tun them 771 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:24,960 up um cool all right next on the agenda community garden update George nope I 772 01:06:22,279 --> 01:06:29,200 got it I don't have cool slides though yeah we have our first um official 773 01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:33,960 meeting we've had a few at the Garden but this was our first official meeting 774 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:40,119 and we invited um everybody to come to it we had eight people here and three um 775 01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:48,319 members thank you Matt and for showing up for that and we got two new gardeners 776 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:54,640 so we went from three five we have lost one I think we're at eight gardeners 777 01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:59,319 have another one oo nice very happy significant other 778 01:06:56,839 --> 01:07:03,760 fantastic so so you're saying went through we'll have eight folks planting 779 01:07:01,279 --> 01:07:08,599 in the garden this year yep and I also um asked for a volunteer to man The 780 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:15,839 plots and hand them out at the Garden and Denise McHugh is wonderful she did 781 01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:20,279 our first really goodlook um uh plot she's got I'm perplexed can you restate 782 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:25,760 that what does that mean yeah what do so we have plots that the people plant in 783 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:29,000 right and because Denise is down down there she's going to be giving out those 784 01:07:27,279 --> 01:07:34,520 plots to the people that that come in assign assign assign the plot assign the 785 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:37,520 plots assign location no so the people know where to plot to plant other than 786 01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:42,799 that they size or how much size they need or 787 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:47,640 how there's there's halves and fulls okay available right now so um we have 788 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:51,079 three more fulls that are available for what I had plowed last year um and then 789 01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:54,920 we'll have to think about what we're going to do if we're going to bring them 790 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:59,440 out further if we want to do you know 10 more or whatever we want to do so we 791 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:04,520 have three that are open right now how big are the fs do you know excuse me how 792 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:08,880 big are they full plot I think it's 10 x 20 is the full oh they're bigger they're 793 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:13,240 bigger than that aren't they water 10 by 20 are they bigger than 10 no they're 794 01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:17,400 bigger than 20 think so bigger than 20 they're pretty big those go back on 30 795 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:23,440 that's pretty big they're almost 20 by 30 20 by 30 okay 796 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:27,000 it's like a farm no it's a foot right are you I'm sure you're going to give an 797 01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:31,560 up are you going to is somebody coming to um Roa till so I'm going to get 798 01:08:29,719 --> 01:08:36,400 through that sure um yep so that was one of the 799 01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:43,359 uh I I I deserve it George go ahead keep them coming keep do that um we did also 800 01:08:39,799 --> 01:08:51,319 have um a new person command Mr mcgibbon um it's a very K with a K MC K mcgibbon 801 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:55,040 KBB McKibbon McKibben yeah McKibben Mr McKibben came in thank you he happens to 802 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:59,880 be married to one of the people on the conserv ation commission however he um 803 01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:04,000 he has a lot of good in information he's going to be taking on irrigation so we 804 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:09,920 have Denise taking care of the plot assignments we have um Mr M kibbon 805 01:09:07,719 --> 01:09:15,080 talking about the irrigation and getting that set up he found a pump which I had 806 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:21,159 offered to buy and now no longer have to um we had um Everybody signed a lvi 807 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:24,640 community gardens code of conduct which was something that was attached to the 808 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:28,799 lease that we needed to do can you grow weed in the garden 809 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:33,920 um at this point it doesn't say specifically no it would have to be 810 01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:37,960 legalized and I would say probably not though I think it would get us a lot 811 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:42,600 more attention than we really want weed um but we are going to be planting peas 812 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:47,880 and oats um that is a suggestion by Mr McKibben they're in my house John from 813 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:53,320 Johnny selected seats okay so um he's a he's a very good member we had sponsors 814 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:59,199 um show up um rockula fort from proscapes came he's 815 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:04,080 going to be putting in a center garden and um Mike from chick Farm woodworking 816 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:08,120 is going to be putting in the swing set um hopefully soon when he gets a little 817 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:11,880 bit of downtime so the community garden is going along really well we've got 818 01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:16,040 I've got some help there which is really nice cool um and then because I'm not on 819 01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:19,000 for other that's not the only committee meeting I was at the economic 820 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:24,159 development committee meeting yeah that's on here too I'll just hold on 821 01:10:21,239 --> 01:10:31,560 Dian any any questions on the community garden I've got one okay irrigation so 822 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:38,159 he's got a pump what's your water source um the creek big white thing oh oh so no 823 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:42,640 but no we're going to be bringing water into the into there and then there so 824 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:46,679 you're going to be filling up the big tank and then you're going to irrigate 825 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:52,120 from the tank to the okay what what kind of a pump does he have drn is it like 826 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:56,840 said it was a um I I thought he found a pump on the unit didn't there is a pump 827 01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:01,800 on the we were going to try to work on that to fix it up so I think that's what 828 01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:07,640 he's talking about okay okay okay all right so I wasn't sure if 829 01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:12,239 it was IR when you said irrigation I thought it was you know like a hose or 830 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:19,400 hoses in in the it's going to go into the G he does yep so we were he's he's 831 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:24,360 great to have on the on the committee so there's actually two little there's a uh 832 01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:27,760 there's the pump that normon gave us with the 833 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:32,960 whatever you want to call it with the tank you know and then there's 834 01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:37,880 another tank that was given to us that was dropped off there you know you could 835 01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:43,239 almost have a two pump system where that could be raised above hydraulic grade 836 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:48,120 line you could actually put on P put on drip irrigation and then when it gets 837 01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:54,639 low it would kick on the pump fill up tank one push up the tank too distribute 838 01:11:51,719 --> 01:11:58,840 down I got this if we get a dry summer they're they're kind of in trouble over 839 01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:05,679 there we have to have something better yeah I we we'll get it get it going mik 840 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:10,600 Brandon it's work on the pump the gas pump to fill up the big 841 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:17,320 tank we're going to make sure that okay you guys are awesome I don't 842 01:12:13,719 --> 01:12:24,360 know appreciate four items from the meeting oh from the community action 843 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:27,800 items the uh blueberry bushes I Trimm those 844 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:32,920 took down the wire fence in the front of the lot in the 845 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:40,199 post um stained all the picnic tables you did yeah with a gallon of uh stain 846 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:46,600 and found the irrigation line that's located for the garden that was there 847 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:52,000 from years before yeah so I showed these guys where that was so we know where the 848 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:58,320 pipe is that goes into the stream oh my God now we just have to work on hitch 849 01:12:55,719 --> 01:13:03,080 hitching it up and oh my God awesome yeah it looks good there did the 850 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:09,560 tables look really really good yeah it does thank you a star thank 851 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:15,639 you cool any other questions on the community garden got a a lot a lot going 852 01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:20,679 on here John so we will have to figure out where to make that path down to the 853 01:13:18,639 --> 01:13:24,560 to the bridge cut the fence and and make the fence let me know when you want I'll 854 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:29,199 meet you down did you go to that Garden meeting yes 855 01:13:25,639 --> 01:13:29,199 yep that's why I got action 856 01:13:30,639 --> 01:13:39,639 item all right I had a question on the fence yes can we I took it to upon 857 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:44,199 myself to cut the fence with the bolt cutters I don't care and we're going to 858 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:49,639 need to cut the fence in the for the bridge and we're also going to need to 859 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:55,040 cut the fence for the irrigation system so is that that's okay okay good mhm 860 01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:03,320 good on that all right Diane quick overview of the economic development 861 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:07,000 thing okay yeah so that was another another meeting this month um for me was 862 01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:10,360 the economic development committee meeting and how it pertains to 863 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:18,960 conservation anything else before I start or no okay um so I sent everybody 864 01:14:16,679 --> 01:14:24,080 the 2024 town of litfield Economic Development survey results that we got 865 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:30,080 um I spent four hours as did two of the other members and at three of the other 866 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:35,639 members at the polls getting responses back on this we had I believe 867 01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:43,360 1,153 respondents a lot of those came from the um the polls which was amazing 868 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:47,639 to have that many responces um it pertains to conservation because it 869 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:51,239 asked whether or not people wanted open space or if they wanted Economic 870 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:56,600 Development or if they want what they wanted um so Jay's highlighted one of 871 01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:02,360 the Pages here yeah if you if you look over on the 872 01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:09,560 right hand side um the three large columns over 873 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:13,840 there I think this is all of the respondents these are some of the 874 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:18,480 critical things that they they picked uh preserve agriculture was up there I 875 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:23,560 think probably in the top looks like three or four preserve Open Spaces up 876 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:27,000 there which which question was this protect drinking water one of the most 877 01:15:25,719 --> 01:15:31,239 important issues that should be addressed in the town of Whitfield over 878 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:35,320 the next five years that's control tax increases was number one so it looks 879 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:39,520 like control tax increase number one drinking water number two preserve 880 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:45,000 agricultural number three and it looks like a track new 881 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:51,280 business and open space are up there as well 882 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:55,199 for control tax increases 54 that was the 883 01:15:53,040 --> 01:16:00,560 highest so where does it go from from here so from here there's going to be 884 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:07,600 another meeting um that we're supposed to have um to start focusing but we're 885 01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:12,520 not having that meeting in May it's been cancelled uh April rather it's been 886 01:16:09,639 --> 01:16:17,840 canceled until May so that's where we're going next on that you know what date 887 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:21,920 you sent sent those today today I sent it today yeah this it's also on the the 888 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:25,120 town website it yeah but I just sent it to everybody so they would have the one 889 01:16:23,639 --> 01:16:31,159 question I the one thing that confuses me as if you look at it control tax 890 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:35,159 taxes and conservation and agriculture they they're Polar Opposites because the 891 01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:40,239 more conservation we take out of the tax Dole taxes are going to go up taxes open 892 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:43,840 land doesn't cost you anything has cost you it doesn't cost anything but if you 893 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:48,679 take it away from some other development that could bring taxes in it does cost 894 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:52,000 but if you keep it as Farmland it's it's well current use probably in current use 895 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:55,960 right if you can the most expensive thing to put in is housing the most 896 01:16:54,040 --> 01:17:00,480 expensive thing that's something that's Demand on the services yes we agree with 897 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:04,520 that yeah been confused control tax part that gets me it's like I don't know how 898 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:08,560 you you want businesses but we don't we're we're locking up land we can't 899 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:13,400 build business businesses and then you got tax said control 900 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:18,760 taxes you know so that's like you could look at that a couple of different ways 901 01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:23,840 we've done like a lot of research on this I have looked at I would probably 902 01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:30,040 say 20 studies over the past couple years about um cost for 903 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:33,920 service community service study and really really interesting I'll send it 904 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:39,600 around to the to the crew uh but the long and the short of it is is take a 905 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:45,000 guess how much on average residential property cost the taxpayer for every 906 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:50,440 dollar of taxes collected Harry for every dollar 907 01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:55,520 collected in taxes from a house on residential property particularly um I 908 01:17:53,280 --> 01:18:08,159 think I read a single family what is it cost of it saves the town $9 909 01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:13,480 no13 cost cost us cost res residential property you get a dollar in taxes from 910 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:19,199 the residents A113 is going out that's where all the kids are if you look at um 911 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:24,440 commercial it ends up dropping to like 4 cents dollar coming in 40 cents going 912 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:30,639 out so you're getting you're making money you're losing money on residents 913 01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:36,880 you're gaining money on um on commercial or industrial I then went and did a ton 914 01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:42,840 of research on breaking down the residential piece and this I found only 915 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:47,199 two studies that figure that had this outlined and when you break down the 916 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:53,480 residential piece single family is by far like actually condos three-bedroom 917 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:58,719 condos and four bedroom condos I think are the the biggest 918 01:18:55,679 --> 01:19:03,120 impact to the taxpayer negative impact single family negative impact when you 919 01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:09,639 get down to two bedroom apartments in one-bedroom apartments it tilts in the 920 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:13,639 favor of the town over those kids because they don't have kids it puts you 921 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:18,920 in the posit um I'll send that stuff around but I looked at many studies and 922 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:25,440 I looked at unless you're looking at over 55 communities I didn't see any 923 01:19:21,719 --> 01:19:30,480 over over 55s on there but probably a hundred communities I looked 924 01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:36,520 at I found a table of a 100 communities where they did these surveys zero had a 925 01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:42,440 positive impact on single family residential zero zero it was wendam just 926 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:48,560 did one a couple years ago do six to the dollar and I think it was Sandown uh 927 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:52,679 their study was like a121 going out to every dollar coming in so yeah yeah 928 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:56,760 probably the smaller so commercials better is what way better right so where 929 01:19:54,840 --> 01:20:00,719 do you put the commercial in this town north and south y we that's the only 930 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:04,320 location we have and I think that's that's part of the challenge but we have 931 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:09,639 land north and south that hasn't been built yet either so really it is I mean 932 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:13,600 there's there we tried to have Baron's Warehouse come in federal the state of 933 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:18,199 the federal came in and stopped that if I had the federal made it prohibitive 934 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:23,040 for them to do it and they only had the one curb cut yeah they would had to 935 01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:29,480 share a driveway with St Francis so the state has has impacted as well putting 936 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:34,159 in businesses yep agree so to say let's take the area that we're currently 937 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:38,239 protected and say let's go there we haven't even finished taking care of the 938 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:43,920 land that we have on North and South it's tough yeah I agree with the 939 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:48,800 the the comments though it's like we want to protect agricultural character 940 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,960 but we also want to increase the tax Bas so it seems like it's just in Conflict 941 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:55,040 but it's what I said when we started that's why you guys have your committee 942 01:20:53,719 --> 01:20:58,719 it is and when it when we were in the committee and when we started it was 943 01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:01,639 agricultural businesses if you could do that I don't know how much tax impact 944 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:05,880 they have for bringing back to the community but if you could get you know 945 01:21:03,719 --> 01:21:11,760 some Farm totable restaurants pass possibly in that actually grew some 946 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:17,320 things that used normanton Farms um cows and pigs and and chickens and stuff and 947 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:21,280 and grew problem is is those like don't move the needle I don't yeah they don't 948 01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:27,480 move the needle what's going to move the needle is an Amazon warehouse in a lower 949 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:31,800 registrations and kind of light use of property would be the what move the 950 01:21:28,679 --> 01:21:35,400 needle we just um they're clearing three lots up up of the North End AC Crosser 951 01:21:33,639 --> 01:21:41,000 Ms three commercial Lots one's going to be a multi multi um use a house in the 952 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:43,960 front and a warehouse in the back so that's something that's that's an 953 01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:50,360 existing business in town already that's going to be moving it's my understanding 954 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:53,520 Joel It's Joel Jon his daughter yeah and then the other one there's a bing 955 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:57,800 company that's interested in the other lot another lot coming from out town in 956 01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:02,159 the old sand pit there yep yeah right across from 957 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:05,760 Val uh and there's you know that's where the lots are that the owner up there was 958 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:11,000 interested in doing something it just has to be permitted so we have any other 959 01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:15,960 questions on that um the other meeting that I went to this month was the Lowa 960 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:19,800 memac River Local advisory committee meeting um and it was interesting 961 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:25,880 because what you were just talking about appeared on there's the a they needed an 962 01:22:21,639 --> 01:22:30,800 aot permit um for alteration of terrain for the sand pit um not quite sure why 963 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:34,480 they really needed to be there it's nowhere near the disturbing more than 964 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:39,320 100,000 square but this is yeah this is the 965 01:22:36,639 --> 01:22:42,040 River Local advisory committee so but they were there and then there was 966 01:22:40,679 --> 01:22:49,239 somebody there um it was very interesting to hear how meramac 967 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:53,320 discusses their commercial waivers as opposed to how we do I mean they have so 968 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:58,080 much commercial building over there that they're you know they're happy to have 969 01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:02,159 scrub in between the river and and the concrete for the parking lots and stuff 970 01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:07,560 it's it's way different than what we look at and how much how much area we're 971 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:12,040 putting between our River and and the commercial accounts that of come in so 972 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:16,520 far so that's the end of what my busy week is like busy month all right I 973 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:21,719 think we're we're moving on we're going to do this real quick and this is 974 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:27,360 primarily for John uh goals for 2024 so each year we we set goals and um and 975 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:33,199 then we try our best to achieve those goals and we set these goals for 2024 976 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:39,040 they're up in our portal actually a directory for them but we've 977 01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:43,760 got about I don't know a dozen things on here on this list so we're going to try 978 01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:48,159 to try to go through these this year is that bat house the same bat house we've 979 01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:52,360 had around Big B house unfortunately no it's actually got a home now though 980 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:56,239 right right will well that will be up this year that was a mosquito control 981 01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:59,840 district purchase I believe if I it's sitting in the fire 982 01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:04,400 station I used to move it out of the room in the back over here I couldn't 983 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:08,719 believe how heavy it is so that's going finally yes it's going into the garden I 984 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:14,600 want to dance you want to going into the garden shut up awesome 985 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:19,360 get so much grief over let's moving on so that's 986 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:25,080 that last year we were pretty good on our goals we really I think we hit just 987 01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:29,360 about every single one of them so nice rounding out other business property 988 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:36,080 checks Property Maintenance anybody got anything oh I went to um only for trail 989 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:41,360 found a pair of glasses shouldn't have put it on Facebook looks good looks good 990 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:45,679 yeah it's got one log over the like the handicap access 991 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:49,199 but and you had to go that way because the first time I went the that little 992 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:54,480 Gully was full of water so that was good that Matt made that little 993 01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:58,719 U-turn that bridge was going to cost 2000 if I remember too yeah it was only 994 01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:05,080 like a four foot Bridge really yeah it was four planks did anybody check on the 995 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:11,080 um the camera no I didn't got go bother it there was a bunch of ducks 996 01:25:07,639 --> 01:25:15,800 out there nice looking ducks anybody else I think oh you go to the I sent a 997 01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:23,239 PCT the picture after you went to the River Landing yeah I I did the tour I 998 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:28,320 yeah I saw that I did U well we did Parker Park the community garden uh mors 999 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:35,320 Falls I didn't walk the whole Trail but I I went down to the bottom and came 1000 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:40,199 back up the main trail and then um the muster field looks good and the river 1001 01:25:37,480 --> 01:25:44,000 access you saw probably saw that report I did go look at the river axis and I 1002 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:49,440 looked at that leaner and I'm pretty sure we can take that out um so I've got 1003 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,560 a plan one closer to the river what the one closest to the river okay it yeah 1004 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:59,679 around the does a dog a little bit of a dog leg 1005 01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:07,119 um yeah it's a the Widowmaker you think we can take that out so just with a a 1006 01:26:02,199 --> 01:26:11,480 rope to a vehicle and um if we use the ge's left hand cut I really don't think 1007 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:17,239 we should talk about this on camera anymore all right we're done no but 1008 01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:22,840 seriously it it it doesn't look that tough um we could also see if Highway 1009 01:26:20,199 --> 01:26:28,800 can take care of it if if highway just was I caught up 1010 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:33,080 C right so if we if we cut it at the bottom and tie it to my truck we pull it 1011 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:37,840 out of the pull it out of the you know no one will be near it when we pull it 1012 01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:44,119 out of that tree and then cut it up I don't know I can show you my plan 1013 01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:47,719 if we okay okay all right I'll walk we should do that cuz it is kind of uh it's 1014 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:51,880 it's hanging over the trail we'll see if it's still up after 1015 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:58,520 this past storm um all right moving on quickly 1016 01:26:56,239 --> 01:27:02,760 hopefully member input we'll go this way Mr Brunell anything nothing thank you 1017 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:10,320 George okay Fred no you got all mine on 1018 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:15,280 the well the other thing was we I went down and with George and we looked for 1019 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:20,000 the area to put up the fish netting that may be something that Rob 1020 01:27:18,679 --> 01:27:24,880 could help us with because we've had problems in the 1021 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:31,000 past trying to keep those fish in the Stream theyve floated down to marac 1022 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:35,280 during the fishing derby yeah there are so we're trying to keep contain as best 1023 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:41,080 as possible yeah I think I think we got a good good spot yeah spot now so but it 1024 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:45,400 be it'd be helpful if you want yeah we could use our expertise yeah so we're 1025 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:50,320 going to get um a total of 400 fish delivered 200 from a fish farm and then 1026 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:54,800 the state is going to match 200 and so we want to keep them in a confined area 1027 01:27:52,880 --> 01:28:01,920 for the duration of the Derby if possible so and we we have a a plan 1028 01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:07,400 maybe George has a plan but I I can run buy take a look at your yeah 1029 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:12,960 thanks I don't have a PowerPoint for that 1030 01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:19,280 though yet Joan yes I do have a hard copy of the Third Edition of Burnal 1031 01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:26,119 pools a lot of good information in here uh I did go out to taller go drive March 1032 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:32,880 14th recorded wood frogs talk to Reggie moo and his Wetland scientist Bruce 1033 01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,880 gild 1034 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:43,400 um I I'm convinced it's a Vernal pool has to have water three to five months 1035 01:28:38,679 --> 01:28:47,400 to have the egg masses be viable um I haven't heard back I talked to 1036 01:28:45,719 --> 01:28:50,960 Reggie yesterday but I haven't heard back from the sign just he was going to 1037 01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:56,000 go back out there in April just I guess check on egg masses but um wood frogs 1038 01:28:53,800 --> 01:29:02,520 are most definitely indicated a species of a veral pool and I'm sure they were 1039 01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:06,000 wood frogs so so if they have egg masses it counts as a Vernal pool well if they 1040 01:29:04,199 --> 01:29:10,159 have wood they had wood frogs I have I sent the scientist my recording of the 1041 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:14,480 wood frogs and I don't know if he's debating whether they different kind of 1042 01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:22,199 frogs but um and then I did oh I did send a letter to um 1043 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:27,199 Dees about their permit and stating that probable Vernal pool and that they 1044 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:32,520 should fishing I want fishing game to tell us do they want open bottom covers 1045 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:39,199 or the 40 foot span of CT um and I also added that in the aot 1046 01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:46,040 report of theirs they have the property is ringed with rare turtles so I'm 1047 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:50,600 pretty sure that turtles will be using that veral pool he the scientist called 1048 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:55,600 it a red maple swamp well it can be a red maple swamp and a veral pool so 1049 01:29:53,480 --> 01:30:01,480 things are still up in the air how will that affect them Vernal pool needs 200t 1050 01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:05,920 buffer so obviously they don't want it to be a Vernal 1051 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:11,679 pool as opposed to a 50 foot buffer is that on is that one lot that would take 1052 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:17,199 out multiple Lots 200t nondisturbed yes oh that blows them out of the water 1053 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:24,000 MTI pools next to each other within that 200 buffer then that buffer extends well 1054 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:27,040 it's one one it's one large one it is how many Lots would it blow out no I'm 1055 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:30,880 saying if there's another buffer if there's another veral pool that's 1056 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:34,600 located within that buffer of 200 then it extends 1057 01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:43,199 out they it goes past we've never had um the 1058 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:48,239 200t buffer um applied by anyone but and I'm sure that the Wetland 1059 01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:54,840 scientist doesn't want to be proven that he was wrong but I'll stick to my 1060 01:30:52,320 --> 01:31:01,880 guns Happ you Diane what you I have 1061 01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:07,480 nothing um just so you know the uh at the planning board meeting the other 1062 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:12,920 night we had um a consultant come in to talk us about the ms4 permitting 1063 01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:20,119 process um I know Miss Kleiner mentioned it at the meeting um I think this is a 1064 01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:27,760 process that um I think has to involve not just the planning board but planning 1065 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:32,760 conservation zoning a whole different group of people um looking at this um 1066 01:31:31,239 --> 01:31:39,920 because it's so comprehensive um and and with 1067 01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:44,080 um putting together our regulations um it might be a good idea 1068 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:50,679 maybe at some point for the Conservation Commission to get a copy of those um 1069 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:55,679 regulations and make recom maybe make recommendations if you guys see anything 1070 01:31:53,480 --> 01:32:00,080 that would be of interest but I think having the conversation between 1071 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:07,080 everybody being in communication on the same page is going to be key to the 1072 01:32:02,639 --> 01:32:10,280 success of of ms4 in Richfield um it's um it's a big 1073 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:18,400 undertaking um and I think having conservation 1074 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:25,199 planning zoning everybody and you know the the um Highway Department everybody 1075 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:30,560 should at least be know what's going on and communication wise and so at our 1076 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:34,320 next I think um we are going to be talking about our next planning board 1077 01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:39,440 meeting if anyone's interested from the conservation to come to the meeting to 1078 01:32:36,440 --> 01:32:48,000 learn about ms4 what day ises that M uh I believe it's the um May I think May 1079 01:32:42,679 --> 01:32:48,000 7th 17 it's not it's not on the 1080 01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:56,360 16th you said it 23rd third it would be the 16th 1081 01:32:53,960 --> 01:33:01,639 the 16th yeah but are we talking about storm water on the 16th Mike I think we 1082 01:32:58,679 --> 01:33:05,760 are I I think um we were going to talk about a little bit so so do you want me 1083 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:10,800 to send the latest one that Kim just sent out to everyone and it it's still 1084 01:33:07,719 --> 01:33:14,560 not redlined so it's a little bit hard to see yeah but I think we wanted it to 1085 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:20,400 be red lined so that I know but the one she sent the day after the meeting's not 1086 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:25,360 yeah um so this is a process this is going to be an ongoing process so but I 1087 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:30,040 think if we get participation from conservation because it it is a thing to 1088 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:36,639 do with water quality and culverts and things of that nature so there are some 1089 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:42,280 some issues that can be addressed so that's just my um take on that 1090 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:46,480 so that's why Kim said she wanted to know about anything that was happening 1091 01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:51,960 with Dara as far as the milfoil and the dees 1092 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:56,800 study so I'll have to keep that in mind all right uh 1093 01:33:54,520 --> 01:34:00,400 um are you going to shoot an email regarding that I might be able to help 1094 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:06,520 out I I do like a lot of that stuff for a living I can I can certainly send an 1095 01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:11,920 email I can send you um a copy of the the regulations that were proposed or 1096 01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:16,639 what was brought to us at the planning board if you want to take a look at 1097 01:34:13,679 --> 01:34:24,440 those um yeah we we can definitely use um your input on that all right cool 1098 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:28,400 Harry nothing Matt H no nothing uh I've got nothing either look at the 1099 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:32,480 minutes anybody else uh approval of minutes then we'll 1100 01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:38,080 get to election of officers and we'll be out of here so or not quite but uh 1101 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:42,119 approval of minutes any everybody anybody get a chance to look at them I 1102 01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:47,880 did I thought they look good yeah I looked at them they're fine that was 1103 01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:57,239 March yeah so let me just get the date hold on a second do you anybody have 1104 01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:57,239 that yeah March 26 7 March 1105 01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:05,040 7th March 7th minutes I anybody want to make a motion 1106 01:35:03,639 --> 01:35:11,400 so moved got a motion by Diane to approve 1107 01:35:07,719 --> 01:35:18,119 the March 7th 2024 meeting minutes second motion by Diane seconded by Harry 1108 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:26,199 all those in favor say I I oppos motion carries seven no no motion carries 1109 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:31,560 601 601 with Mr Brunell abstaining all right that's that 1110 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:36,960 election of officers okay so now we this is the first meeting after the board of 1111 01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:44,400 Selectmen made their appointments in March so we have to elect 1112 01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:51,960 officers per the uh bylaws we have three positions chair Vice chair and secretary 1113 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:57,239 um as I stated last month I've been on I've been the chair for two years 1114 01:35:54,560 --> 01:36:02,080 I'm perfectly happy to give the chair up and let somebody else do it I don't mind 1115 01:36:00,199 --> 01:36:05,600 if if we're in a pinch and no one wants to do it I'll do it again but I would 1116 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:10,520 actually prefer to give it up it's you know takes a lot of time and so it's not 1117 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:15,880 uh for a year right it's give up for saying for a year just 1118 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:22,960 I'm giving it up right now and let somebody else take over I don't mind 1119 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:29,480 being the vice chair if I if uh want to assist or the secretary or a regular 1120 01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:35,440 member doesn't matter to me I'm I'm good so we've got a go through the process to 1121 01:36:33,239 --> 01:36:39,119 elect a chair I've done a lot of research on this different boards do it 1122 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:43,480 different ways so we would need someone to make before anybody shouts anything 1123 01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:48,600 out we' need somebody to make a nomination and then someone would need 1124 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:52,840 to second that nomination and then if someone else wants to nominate somebody 1125 01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:56,159 else they can do that at that given point in time and I think that has to 1126 01:36:55,080 --> 01:37:00,760 also be seconded and then we would go through 1127 01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:04,440 the voting process and we would vote for candidate number one people raise their 1128 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:09,320 hands and then vote for candidate number two raise their hands and whoever gets 1129 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:15,679 the most votes wins is that Jo I I have one question I'm an 1130 01:37:13,480 --> 01:37:20,800 alternate right friend's an alternate we can't vote right and we so I mean we 1131 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:25,800 can't nominate either right right just I'm just making sure 1132 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:30,400 that's that's true right and we can't run and we can't run for we can't be 1133 01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:33,960 nominated yes you could be nominated how could they be nominated I'm not a voting 1134 01:37:32,679 --> 01:37:39,480 member oh shoot you couldn't be nominated I was nominated as a secretary 1135 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:43,199 before I was a member I was a a uh but someone have to give up their full-time 1136 01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:47,840 seat if that happens no they didn't they didn't I was for two years oh yeah wow 1137 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:54,199 I'd go down to an alternate all right think you got any 1138 01:37:50,719 --> 01:38:00,239 ideas I'm still learning my way around so on the on the chair so we would need 1139 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:04,440 a nomin I'm going to call for one in a minute and call for nominations in a 1140 01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:07,760 minute I'm not going to make any nominations I'm not going to vote unless 1141 01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:14,119 it's a tie I would also like the people that 1142 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:20,119 are nominated the personal opinion to vote for yourself if you want yourself 1143 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:24,159 to be the chair it can it can screw up the vote at the end if one person 1144 01:38:22,119 --> 01:38:28,080 abstains and another person doesn't obain or something like that so I would 1145 01:38:26,599 --> 01:38:32,480 personally just prefer just vote for yourself instead of 1146 01:38:30,639 --> 01:38:38,159 abstaining I I will tell you I'm going tostain from the vote I I only know all 1147 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:42,679 you folks from what I watch you're the better ones to pick who your leadership 1148 01:38:39,719 --> 01:38:48,800 should be and I should be involved sounds so so no one can fill I could go 1149 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:54,280 like you could go like this he could go like 1150 01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:58,239 that the right place we go I'm I'm going to get my phone and take some pictures I 1151 01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:02,960 will say this that I I put a lot of thought into this and you know we do 1152 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:07,800 have term limit so I do I'm at the two-year term limit so if if I did go 1153 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:13,119 for it it would have to be 100% um vote someone could Harry could 1154 01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:18,520 say no and then it you know foils the whole thing up but I truly believe that 1155 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:23,440 this crew that we have right now is pretty darn good and we're kind of 1156 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:27,639 clicking on all cylinders everybody is is is putting putting the work in 1157 01:39:25,480 --> 01:39:31,679 putting the work in in between meetings and things like that so I'm really 1158 01:39:29,679 --> 01:39:35,080 confident you know that that we're good I just want mind stepping aside if 1159 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:39,360 anybody wants to nominate me for vice chair or nothing or or secretary I'm 1160 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:45,440 fine with doing that just wanted to take a chill pill on the uh being the the 1161 01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:53,679 chair for time being it's a lot of time so with that I 1162 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:58,119 am going to open it up for nomination for 1163 01:39:54,560 --> 01:40:02,679 chair and then I will ask if there are any other nominations and then we'll 1164 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:10,159 take the vote is that the way it works it sounds good sure okay so I'll 1165 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:17,000 entertain a motion for chair I'd like to nominate Matt as 1166 01:40:12,599 --> 01:40:23,880 chair okay any second on that second second all right so we have a 1167 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:26,760 mat okay do we have any any other nominations for 1168 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:37,639 chair okay hearing none no other nominations for 1169 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:43,719 chair we'll take a vote for all those in favor of Matt being chair of the 1170 01:40:40,199 --> 01:40:53,000 Lichfield Conservation Commission please say I I I I motion passes 1 2 3 4 52 1171 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:59,599 I'll stain oh okay how I'm going to recant my vote 1172 01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:06,239 I'll vote yeah 601 6 601 I was only going to not I 1173 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:11,599 was only going to mistay if there's multiple people running 601 1174 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:16,560 congratulations Matt Matt actually now you are the chair no no not till after 1175 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:23,880 the election keep keep going I can do that all right nominations for hold on 1176 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:27,719 congratulations Matt thank you you get the 1177 01:41:24,599 --> 01:41:35,000 gabble I'll entertain a motion for vice chair I'd like to nominate Jason as the 1178 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:41,040 vice chair okay all right I'll do it if I'm elected 1179 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:48,159 second motion by Harry seconded by Diane all those in favor say I I'll vote 1180 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:52,400 for myself I I I all those opposed all those 1181 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:57,960 abstained abstained okay you forgot to ask motion passes people for vice oh 1182 01:41:55,719 --> 01:42:02,480 shoot anybody else for oh I think we just all voted for you we're good 601 1183 01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:09,119 it's 61 anybody so 601 hold on anybody else 1184 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:15,000 have any other nominations for vice chair oh secretary I'd like to nominate 1185 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:19,840 Joan for secretary I'll second 1186 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:27,320 it got a nomination for Joan uh nominated by Diane seconded by 1187 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:32,520 Mr Coto Joan you good good okay all those in favor say I I oppose abstain 1188 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:37,880 motion passes 601 all right congratulations everybody 1189 01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:42,639 so we got Matt you got to take over the Reigns for next meeting all right all 1190 01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:48,040 right good uh next meeting is May 2nd 1191 01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:53,599 2024 so mark your calendars Matt I'll help you out you got 1192 01:42:50,199 --> 01:42:58,239 to get together the stuff and yeah we'll get we'll get rolling on it all right 1193 01:42:55,080 --> 01:43:02,719 sounds good all right everybody good good I'm good all 1194 01:42:59,719 --> 01:43:07,000 right I was going to nominate Rob we already did 1195 01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:11,239 that chairman let's see I'll entertain so we got to go into nonpublic for a 1196 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:15,920 couple minutes and everybody clear out of the room so you got to leave for this 1197 01:43:12,719 --> 01:43:23,440 one this time until after you get sworn in I just heard it the other night who 1198 01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:30,400 cooks for you huh who cooks for you I I just heard it it was down at oh you 1199 01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:34,599 still have we do also have we do also have committees that are going to have 1200 01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:39,119 to be taken over um we have the garden committee we have the economic 1201 01:43:36,679 --> 01:43:43,480 development committee and we have the North River collaborative which we 1202 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:47,719 really don't need another person to do all right those are committees that 1203 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:51,960 are going to be open should we do that for this meeting or next meeting up to 1204 01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:56,920 you anybody wants to think about it and then come do for next meeting 1205 01:43:53,599 --> 01:44:01,280 okay yeah put it on the agenda yep all right I will uh I need to entertain a 1206 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:05,040 motion we need to go into non-public so the meeting has ended for the public 1207 01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:10,719 I'll entertain a motion to go into non-public per RSA 91a colon 3D 1208 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:16,920 consideration of the acquisition sale or lease of or lease of 1209 01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:20,599 real or personal property I'll entertain a motion to go and on public motion by 1210 01:44:19,679 --> 01:44:25,440 Harry seconded sorry you want me to hang out 1211 01:44:22,639 --> 01:44:29,719 or no you got to yeah after we'll see you after you go through the we'll see 1212 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:35,800 you when you come back nice to meet you SEC motion by Harry was it motion by 1213 01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:45,920 Harry yes seconded by second seconded by Mr Coto roll call vote Matt yes Harry 1214 01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:51,679 yes Michael Diane I'm a yes Joan yes yes Mr berell yes motion passes 70 we are 1215 01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:57,000 now in nonpublic thank you Lichfield have a good night by 1216 01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,000 all right now