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you please join us in the pledge of
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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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republic for which it stands, one
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indivisible, liberty and justice for
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We get started with help from the port.

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You have like to say this even.
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that I was able to part uh participate
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was a very special moment. Um it felt
like such a community in there. I know

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that there are probably some other
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And I just wanted to share some kind of
specific feedback that I got. I have a

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friend who has a um seventh grader, her
son who is autistic, and she said that

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it was very meaningful to her that she
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new library. And that was something that
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might not have been something that we,
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the planner who put that in there
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something that added a lot of value for
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» Thank you, Council Fraser.
>> Um it's been a while, but uh

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congratulations to the city for the
third of July event. Uh it was another

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fantastic year. So, building on the
success of the first year, uh I know my

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family appreciated it and I think a lot
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Lichfield and from the surrounding area
appreciate it. So, thank you. Um you

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know, thank you to staff. Uh you had a
very tight timeline with the the library

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and all the improvements that were
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pull all that together. So, you did a
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for getting that done on behalf of the
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certainly recognize, uh, Aendale PD for
their professionalism. There's been some

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incidents, you know, this summer, uh,
including one recently. Uh, they're a

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very professional organization. I'm very
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I'm very proud to have them on a lighter
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So, they're out there every morning. Um,
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participate in that chaos of dropping
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PD out there, especially at the
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direct traffic and and help us parents
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over the summer, is is a great help. Um,
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» Thank you, Councilman James. No report.
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» I have a good report as well. Um, I also
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at that with a very different
perspective because that corner means a

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lot to our family. And so seeing seeing
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don't know, I grew up on the corner
where CVS is now. That entire property

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was where our house and my dad's farm
and everything that was important to him

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was. And uh change wasn't always easy.
you know, the road came in, cut us off

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from the park, destroyed the lifestyle
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uh, the change has been positive, and to
be in the library and see all of the

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historical nods, the chandelier,
um, the mural, which I'd like to give

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kudos to Catitude Arts. I was one of the
people who was kind of uh questioning

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whether or not they were going to
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did a great job and it has a lot of the
historical elements of the park that are

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so important. So, um and then seeing the
high school is marvelous. I have a son

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who would have benefited from it and I
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we will have generations of kids who are
going to finally find where they belong

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and their people before they get out of
high school. So that's really really

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cool. Um I also attended the 3rd of July
event. I went listening. I like to go to

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those things and eaves drop. Um it's
getting harder to do is my hearing is

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better than my listening or my listening
is better than my hearing. But I didn't

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hear single negative from anybody.
Usually there's someone who's belly

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aching. It was great. Um we attended the
Coast Guard flag raising a week or so

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ago. Suzanne was there. Um, marvelous
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amazing to think that we have retired
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to come and give their time for their
country. And all of the guys were

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retired. You could tell by their age.
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facility really close to us here. Wonder
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good. I also um got the opportunity to
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Southwest Valley Chamber of Commerce and
that was very nice. Well done.

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wanted to take this moment to publicly
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council and to welcome them. Um by now
everybody knows the results and I'm

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perfectly fine the result as it is. I'm
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were both reelected.
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place and mine has been wonderful. I've
appreciated everything I've done with

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this city and all of the work you all
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» Thank you,
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» I um was at the ground or the ribbon
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experience the library. I mean, just a
step forward for the city and and the

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the hilltop school to to look at the
faces as we were sitting there and the

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balloon drop and it it was pretty
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know, how many people were able to
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the kids in those faces. They wouldn't
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or or have the ability of growing that
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talk about right now though is Yosha,
you did a great job run of the run of

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the show putting everything together,
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that was so appreciated. I also want to
thank all the staff with these storms

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that we've been dealing with this last
week. Um, everybody mobilized, everybody

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got engaged. Matthew and I were out
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night. Um, it was just good to see the
community come together, everybody

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working, the public works team coming
in, WCA, and the amount of work they've

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done in just three days. I mean, kudos
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together. It was great effort to to try
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» Thank you, Councilman. Mr. Vice Mayor,
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things to add to what everybody else has
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the election is over, thank goodness.
Uh, it was done in the primary. We don't

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have to go to the general, so we are
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uh elections at the county level, the
state level,

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uh the federal level can be
difficult, for lack of a better word, at

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times. Uh our elections in Lichfield
Park were very cordial, uh very

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professional, and I want to thank
everybody who's involved in the entire

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process. Um, it's what makes our town
special, uh, to be able to go through

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this kind of process to get together
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neighbors, uh, and and move forward. So,
thank you everyone uh, for what you did

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uh, in the election. Uh, special
congratulations to Sarah Pearson, uh,

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who is a top getter, uh, Cody Conklin,
the mayor, and myself. We're all going

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to be around starting next year.
I was first appointed on the council in

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2004.
I ran for reelection five times. Um,

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every time I ran an election, I received
the highest votes. And suddenly I got

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beat by by 12 votes by Sarah who who
worked it hard and I congratulate her

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for that. Uh I I didn't do a lot. I
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put up some signs, couple of Facebook
posts and that was pretty much it. And

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the signs were old signs from old
elections. So I didn't spend a penny. Um

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figured if my record didn't stand, then
so be it. it could be a win-win for both

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of us.
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I I view the results of the election uh
because there were there were

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significant
differences

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in the structuring of votes and and I I
view it as a reaffirmation

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uh that the mayor and I
have proceeded down a path for many many

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years uh that the citizens
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that that that same direction. Um, yeah,
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[sighs]
it's always hard to to tell to see the

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future. Hindsight's always 2020. Uh, but
u, I think as things have come together,

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it it's worked out. It's very important
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atmosphere and do it in the face of
development pressures that are around us

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and within our city. And I think we've
been able to to handle that well. And I

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look forward to four more years, my last
four years as a council member and the

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mayor's last four years as a mayor
because we are term limited. uh as the

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new charter. Uh but we've uh we had some
work to do in those four years and then

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you know pass pass the wand.
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city has been in the news the last u
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uh from a very sad family situation.
I I want to reaffirm to

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all of our citizens that Lichfield Park
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The council reviews the police and the
fire reports every month. We have an

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excellent police department. Our police
chief lives in Lichville Park. We have

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an excellent fire department. Our deputy
chief lives in Lichville Park. The

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services that we get are
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we've increased our spending on public

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safety in the last
when did we hire fire department? 10

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years ago, 15 years ago, 15 probably
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concentrated on on the safety of this
community and everything that we do

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includes an analysis of
how is that going to affect our

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citizens? Is it going to affect safety?
Is it going to increase safety? That's

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in all of our minds every time we we
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Uh all of my children live here. All of
my grandchildren live in this city. Uh

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the safety is
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Unfortunately, we've had a couple of
high-profile cases and and they've

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happened
within families and within their homes

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where our public safety experts really
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our hearts go out to those families.
Uh fortunately though, our streets are

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safe, our parks are safe, our city is is
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provide, it really only happens within
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difficult situation
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zip code that includes an area that is
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bigger than than this city is. Uh but
they all have the same the same address.

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do not get this increased level of
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that's one of the reasons why we are so
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Finally, I'd like to ask staff, and I've
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I think it's important to our city that
we have signage markers that show where

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our boundaries actually are. Um, our
staff gets calls all the time saying,

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"Hey, I live in Lichfield." And you got
to tell them, "No, you don't." and they

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say, "Yes, I do. My broker told me." And
you're going to tell them, "No, they

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don't." And there's kind of push and
pull and back and forth and some

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problems with the staff. Uh, I think it
would be valuable to our citizens,

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valuable to us to for know where the
boundaries are. Uh, and I'm not asking

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for some expensive monument, big great
thing. All I'm asking for is one or two

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poles in the ground that a sign that
says welcome to Lville Park, you know,

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and maybe on the back of it says leaving
Lynchville Park, you know, the city of

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Lichfield Park. Uh so we can we can
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Uh I'd like to see maybe staff think
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going to be a big expense, if it's
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» Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Uh just a
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Everybody mentioned about the library
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important events for the uh for the city
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myself, it has been more than a decade
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and trying to figure out how how can the
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the city and the residents and for the
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to be. uh given the fact that
maintaining it is such a huge expense

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that literally when we first received it
as a gift if we had done a good job

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maintaining it that's all we could have
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tremendous it's a tremendous asset but
it carried tremendous responsibilities

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and I I am very excited that the library
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museum are coming the band stand re
rehab project is coming

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we're going to have a beautiful asset
you can see it actually coming you know

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coming to life and that's that's
wonderful uh the library already is busy

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which is really I was concerned, you
know, how many people would actually

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come to this brand new library. Uh, but
it's busy and that's exactly what we

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want to see. Uh, the opening of the
school was tremendous. The kids that are

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in there are they look like really good
kids. Uh, they are excited about their

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new programming, things that they're
going to be able to learn. So, it's it's

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nothing but a win-win for our for our
our community. On a sad note, the uh one

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of the things that was special about the
the library was being able to see it

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dedicated to the memory of Max Wilson.
Max was tremendously important to the

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entire Southwest Valley, to the whole
West Valley really. He was probably was

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probably the first major developer other
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developed communities out here and got
life on the West Valley started. uh he

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he put a lot into our community. So the
the library actually was a very

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important it was a very important
project for him once he became

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supervisor. Uh but it was really sad
because his family was not able to

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participate in the opening because uh
Max's wife Judith literally died a

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couple days before the opening ceremony.
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participate and I'm sorry for that. We
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some point come over to the library and
and show them the plaque and talk to

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them about about how important the
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but I only wanted to mention it as it
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about that day of dedicating the library
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Uh the other thing I wanted to say
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be commended for getting the library and
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district to get the school done on time.
When when we agreed with Al Pria that

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have this open by August the 3rd I think
it was I wasn't convinced 100% that we

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would make it happen but the staff
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tremendous job. uh they're trying to
coordinate just to coordinate uh all

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these different governmental unit units
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all the different engineering firms. Uh
it it's tremendous that it was that it

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was pulled off and I'm and I'm proud to
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library came in on on budget and on time
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projects. So thank you to the staff.
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also I want to welcome for those of you
who got met, my son Matthew is here.

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He's from Chicago and he just, you know,
couldn't wait to come and see a council

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meeting. Can't understand why. I hope he
enjoys this. With that, we'll go to the

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city manager report. If anyone has
questions for the city manager, you have

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his report in your packet.
>> Mr. Mayor, a couple quick comments if

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you don't mind.
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your pocket in your packet. Questions
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was going to say have been said. It's
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the city. Some some good and some bad.
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so many things to say about staff and
all the work that in the library. I was

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there for the the discussions, the
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Well, what about this? Why don't we try
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thoughts and just giving of ourselves
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And for me, that means a lot to me. And
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hope the staff that was involved think
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later this year. Um, I would also like
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courage to move forward with the library
project. Those of you that were here, it

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was it was a it was contentious at
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ahead and do what you thought and what I
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takes courage to do that. It really
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off. We got done and it opened on time.
You may remember when we during the

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presentation when I said the library
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audience actually laughed,
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roundabout open. The library opened and
it's again, it's just been a fun ride.

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Thank you so much for council and staff
for every thing that went into that.

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» I think that's when Ry's eyes started
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» They still were. [laughter]

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And and again, everyone did a great job
and thank you so much for all the work

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that went into that. And again for the
last week with everything that went on

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in the community with law enforcement
with a tragedy that happened.

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I I don't know what else to say but our
prayers for the family and thank you for

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the job that police did.
Also this weekend this week with the

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storms it's already been said council
cla thank you. I can honestly say I've

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never ran logging chains with a council
member before. We were out there pulling

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trees of the road at midnight and hope
he had as much fun as I did.

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» Yeah. So, and thank you to public
grounds for all their work in uh WCA and

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for Bright View as well. It's been a
very busy week for staff getting roads

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cleared, getting yards cleared and I
really think when you see the damage,

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when you see the trees, the cars that no
one was hurt. It really is amazing and

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certainly thank one comment I would also
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our city attorney has changed his
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So, Joe couldn't be with us because of
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meeting. So Michelle Stinson is here
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She's an attorney also with Pierce
Coleman and normally represents the city

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of Youngtown
>> and thank you for being here with us

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tonight.
>> Thank you. I appreciate the warm

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welcome.
>> Thank you, mayor and council.

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» All right. Any other questions? The city
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takes us to the call the community. We
have one request to speak. This is an

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opportunity for for for citizens to
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Uh we have a request to speak from LA.

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» Voting measures.

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» Thank you. Thanks, Mayor and Council.
Thanks for all that you do, all of you.

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I know some of you personally, and I'm
just thankful for our community. Um so,

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my name is Kelly Troy Orbone, and I'm a
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Like so many people in our community, I
was heartbroken seeing the trees that we

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lost this week.
And it made me think about something

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bigger than simply cleaning up after a
storm at midnight.

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What do we want Lichfield Park to look
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One of the thing that things that makes
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When you drive down old Lichfield, when
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past the former library, the wigwam, and
throughout our neighborhoods, you

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immediately know you're in Lichfield
Park. And that didn't happen

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accidentally. More than 100 years ago,
when Paul Lichfield and architect LG

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Knight were planning this community,
landscaping was a big part of that

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vision. Those trees became part of the
identity of Lichfield Park. So rather

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than simply mourning the trees we've
lost, which I have cried walking around

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the park and seeing that, um, I'd love
for us to use this moment as an

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opportunity. Could we create a Lichfield
Park legacy tree initiative? Maybe this

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becomes a partnership between the city,
residents, businesses, civic

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organizations, and our historical
society. People could sponsor trees.

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Families could plant trees in memory of
or in honor of someone. Businesses could

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help fund them. We could identify
historically appropriate trees and

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locations with the help of arborists and
the city. And perhaps we establish a

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long-term goal that whenever significant
trees are lost due to age, disease, or

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storms, we're already planning for the
generation of trees that will replace

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them.
Because the people who planted those

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trees a century ago weren't really only
planting them for themselves. They were

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planting them for us. And I think we
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for families that will live here 25
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100 years from now. I'd be happy to help
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community partners. If the city would be
willing to explore this, let's not just

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replace what we've lost. Let's continue
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Thank you for your comments. Um, I don't
know if you understand that with open

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meeting law, we're not really able to
respond to your comment, but staff has

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learned the fact they do want to
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So, you want to be careful.
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All right, with that, we're going to
move on to the presentation section. The

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first presentation is
uh the employee of the quarter. We have

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this is you know as I as I've said every
every quarter I get to say is this this

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is one of the most important things that
we do as a council and as a city is to

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recognize the employees that work for us
and we do this through a program where

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the employees not the managers but
employees that work along with each

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other nominate each other every quarter
for who has been the most beneficial to

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other staff or to residents and this
quarter we are proud to announce that

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state federally
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We give that.

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» We used to give employees a gift
certificate, but now we give them the

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best gift. We give them a day off.
>> Thank you very much for your service.

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Okay, next item is we have some new
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Williams who is our HR director is going
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is given to us.
>> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, members

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of council. I'd like to introduce to you
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It's going to save a few.

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» Hello. Um, mayor, vice mayor, and uh,
council council members. Um, I have to

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be honest with you, this is the first
time I've been in front of council and

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mayor vice mayor before, so excuse me.
Um, as Lisa said, I I'm at Padrome. Um,

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I come to city of Litzfield Park from
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um, where I served as the transportation
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I have, excuse [clears throat] me, I
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servant. Um, 30 years in the pavement
preservation and road construction uh

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industry. Uh, and I'm just thankful to
be a part of the team. Thankful to be

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here part of a member of the city of
Litzville Park.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Welcome aboard.
>> Thank you. Appreciate We appreciate

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you're joining us.
>> Yes, sir.

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» Look forward to working with you on
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our residents.
>> Thank you.

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» Okay, next item.
>> Next item we're going to cover is

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recognition of the ovarian cancer uh
month that is being uh that's being

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recognized. CS
I don't know if it's if it's the month

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that we're in or the month. I guess it's
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Is that correct?
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ov she's an ovarian cancer survivor.
Rachel second Putnham. She's with us

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here by Zoom.
uh she is here as an advocate for this

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pro you know for this awareness and for
uh resolving this disease and we're

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going to give her a proclamation.
here is the proclamation.

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Whereas over where whereas ovarian
cancer is the fifth leading cause of

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cancer related death among women in the
United States and the American Cancer

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Society estimates that in 2026
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women will be diagnosed with ovarian
cancer and 12,450

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will die from the disease nationwide
including 510 new cases and 330 deaths

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in Arizona.
Whereas a woman's lifetime risk of being

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diagnosed with ovarian cancer is about 1
in 91 and her lifetime risk of dying

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from the disease, it's approximately 1
in 143.

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Whereas due to vague non-specific
symptoms and the absence of a reliable

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early detection test, majority of women
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when the cancer has already spread
beyond her ovaries.

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Whereas although the fifth year or the
fiveyear survival rate for stage one

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ovarian cancer exceeds 90%, only 15% of
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For those diagnosed in later stages, the
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30%.
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mammograms and PEP and PEP tests exist
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no equivalent screening tests exist for
ovarian cancer, making awareness of

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symptoms and risk factors essential for
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Whereas increased public education about
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promoting earlier diagnosis, supporting
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and encouraging research funding for
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Whereas during the month of September,
the city of Litfield Park joins

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survivors, families, healthcare
professionals, adequacy advocacy

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organizations, and all those committed
to raising awareness

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remembering lives lost and offering hope
for a future with better outcomes and

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ultimately a cure.
Now therefore, I, Thomas Elsho, mayor of

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the city of Isho Park, Arizona, do
hereby proclaim September 2026,

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as ovarian cancer awareness month and
encourage all residents to participate

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in awareness activities where teal and
support and engage in conversations that

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help save lives and support the
thousands of families affected by this

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devastating disease. Dated the 12th day
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So Stacy, congratulations for surviving.
I got that link. Sorry. Rachel,

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congratulations for Excuse me. U we
appreciate that you came to us and asked

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to recognize this month of awareness and
we hope the best for you and for all

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those who have ovarian cancer.
>> I don't know if you have something you'd

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like to say. If you do, you're welcome
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» Thank you. I do.
So, my name is Rachel Sacket Putman and

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I'm here as a stage three ovarian cancer
survivor, thor and advocate and a proud

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Arizona resident for the past 20 years.
Thank you, mayor, and the council

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members of the city of Lichfield Park
for recognizing September as ovarian

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cancer awareness month and for
continuing to support this effort year

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after year. Arizona is where I built my
adult life, my marriage, my career, and

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my survivorship. So receiving this
proclamation from the city of Lichfield

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Park is so deeply meaningful.
Ovarian cancer is one of the deadliest

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cancers affecting women. Yet it remains
one of the most underfunded and least

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understood. Over 21,000 women in the US
will be diagnosed this year and more

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than 12,000 will lose their lives, which
is about a 60% mortality rate. Most

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women are diagnosed at advanced stages
because symptoms are vague and there's

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still no reliable early detection test.
For many of us, that lack of awareness

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is the difference between catching
cancer early and fighting for our lives.

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I was diagnosed at 38 with a rare
subtype called low-grade cirrus ovarian

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cancer, a chronic disease with no
standard of care and an 85% recurrence

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rate. Like many women, I lost my ability
to have biological children. Dreams my

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husband and I hadn't yet fulfilled. And
this year, I've suffered some very deep

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losses to this disease. Losses that
weigh heavily and remind me why

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awareness is so urgently needed. Every
teal light, every social media message,

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and every proclamation, including yours,
helps someone recognize symptoms earlier

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and brings a muchneeded awareness to
this insiduous disease. It truly saves

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lives and honors those women lost far
too soon. Thank you for standing with

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survivors, honoring the women we've
lost, and helping to protect families

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across the city of Lichfield Park and
the great state of Arizona. Your

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continued leadership makes a real and
lasting difference. Together, we can

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shine a light on this gravely overlooked
disease and give hope to the women and

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families who need it most.

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» Thank you, Rachel.
>> Thank you. and congratulations on the

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reelection.
>> Oh, well, thank you.

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» You're welcome.
>> Move forward in your mission.

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» Thank you so much.
>> This takes us to the next presentation.

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This is the next one that I'm going to
do in the order that I choose to do them

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with today.
And that is to recognize the

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00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:06,399
distinguished service David Lford.
I was shocked when I heard that you had

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00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:10,879
retired as our prosecutor. I can't
remember a time in which you were not

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the city's prosecutor.
In fact, I was asked by the city

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00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:19,440
manager, but
>> one day, how many years has David been

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00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:24,159
our city, you know, city prosecutor? And
I I tried to think back and I don't know

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00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:28,720
if it's because I'm older or you've been
or if you've just been prosecutor for so

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00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:32,240
long. I couldn't remember literally a
time when you were not the prosecutor.

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00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:37,800
I'm sure there must have been a time,
but do you recall how many years you've

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00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,800
been prosecuting?

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00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:47,919
» Well, I have to excuse me. Uh,
[clears throat] going back through that

429
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:52,480
the law firm and whatnot, we have a
variety of associates coming through and

430
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:56,960
depending on their level of expertise,
some of them were acting as assistant

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00:34:54,399 --> 00:35:03,040
prosecutor. other times when no one was
available, it fell upon me to take care

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00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:09,440
of that mess. So, I don't know exactly.
I I know if at least the last maybe

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00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,839
seven years it's it's been me, but going
back, you know, there's different

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00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,240
different times. So, it's been a long
time.

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00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,960
» It has been a long time and we we
appreciate your service as prosecutor.

436
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:25,599
We have this plaque for you. We also
have to recognize that in addition to

437
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,280
being our prosecutor, you have served on
our planning and zoning and our design

438
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:32,880
board and so many other things in the
city. So, thank you very much.

439
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:36,520
» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.

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00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:50,960
Final comment.
been my privilege. Uh 11 in the city. I

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00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:56,480
first saw it. I was working for a
restaurant in Londale. My boss had a

442
00:35:54,240 --> 00:36:01,200
membership
and as part of his membership, he had to

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:06,560
spend a certain amount of money every
year. Well, he didn't he didn't know us,

444
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:11,760
but he just wanted to come out two days
a week and play golf. So, right about

445
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:17,680
the week before Christmas every year,
he'd round up the entire firm, take us

446
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:21,760
to lunch over at what is now Reds. That
was the first time I ever saw the show.

447
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,839
I never heard of it. Didn't know
anything about it. Then we went from

448
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:30,720
there and then eventually I ended up
where I ended up.

449
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:36,800
But it is a very unique place. You don't
find this anywhere else. Like I've been

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00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:41,280
here long time. I told my my wife and I
moved here. I think we were trying to

451
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:46,720
add that up. I believe it was 29 years
ago, but I wouldn't.

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:51,920
But seeing all the trees going down, you
know, it's the problem we all face. You

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00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:57,280
have powdery trees. They're a beautiful
tree when everything is going well, but

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00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:02,400
they don't do well if they're overload
water and wind like you're seeing. And

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00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:06,640
then you have 50 year old trees, you
know, like the one by ribbons there that

456
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,480
are down. It's really, it's just really
unfortunate. But as we go forward,

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00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:16,320
everybody's in favor of keeping it
green. So that would be that would be my

458
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:21,280
final comments. But thank you all. I
appreciate the opportunity to serve.

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00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,760
Thank you very much for your service.
>> I make a couple.

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Yeah, a couple of comments. Uh Dave and
I were law partners for more than 40

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00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:39,920
years and longer than as I mentioned at
a chamber of commerce function one time

462
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:43,400
longer than any woman has put up with
either one of us.

463
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:53,119
» And Dave has prosecuted or been
responsible for prosecuting or

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00:37:50,560 --> 00:38:00,640
supervising prosecution
since this city was incorporated. and

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00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:03,520
that's been a while ago. So,
thank you.

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00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:06,760
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:15,880
» Okay, it's going to take take us now to
the presentation by our city engineer

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00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,880
about

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processes.

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00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
» Yes.

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00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, before I
hand the reigns over completely to Ed,

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00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:43,839
uh I'll leave on one last note with the
presentation you're about to hear. Uh

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00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:47,119
collaborated with Ed on this
presentation so we can get the

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information right. Want to give a high
level overview of pavement management

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00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,960
program treatments.
uh

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00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,200
uh what is pavement management, types of
failures, causes of failures, condition

477
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,240
evaluations,
uh the applications that we do

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,440
throughout the city and and where we've
done in other cities, uh appropriate

479
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:12,560
treatments for different type of
failures and then costs.

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00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:17,359
So pain management and predation, it's
programmative methods for collecting and

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:21,440
using storing data. uh want to create
these different steps on what to do with

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00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,440
the data, historical data, new data, new
technologies. Uh employ the maintenance,

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,480
preventive, maintenance, and minor
rehabilitation treatments throughout the

484
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:34,480
year. And just keeping good roads in
good condition because I'll show you in

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00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:38,560
a little bit that there's a chart that
kind of summarizes it all. We want to

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keep good roads in good condition and
they aren't as expensive to rehab. And

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00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:48,240
typically what we do is low cost, low
impact to the environment. But anybody

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:53,040
that's seen a road be reconstructed,
that's uh that's the occasional uh

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00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:56,960
remediation that we have to do. And we
did a little bit of that this year.

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00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:02,480
So this chart I've used in other
presentations in my career. Um the white

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00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:07,680
line is, you know, if you just built a
segment of road and just kind of left it

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uh over a period of time, it's just
going to degrade and go down again down

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00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:16,880
as time goes on. the turquoise and the
pink line. Uh, every time we do a

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00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,680
pavement treatment that's relative to
the type of condition that it has, bumps

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00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:26,079
it back up into a different category.
Uh, the smaller jumps are things like

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00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,000
slurry and smaller treatments. Bigger
jumps you see to the far right might be

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00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:35,119
a millon overlay or a heavier slurry
type treatment. What our goal is is to

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00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,079
never cross the midpoint, which is the O
line. When we get to that point, we have

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to look at it at a different angle.
That's where we start doing things like

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taking the asphalt out or uh
rejuvenating the top layer of the

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00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,720
asphalt with a new coat.

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00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,359
I don't have to go over this whole list.
This is just the types of failures. I

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00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:58,400
mean, there's this list is probably
twice as long as what I could fit on

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00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:03,440
this page. Um what we did is some common
failures that we have here in the city,

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00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:08,480
uh especially in Arizona. Alligator
cracking, block cracking like squares,

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,839
depressions which are ruts in the
asphalt, joint reflection cracking,

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00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,160
longitudinal down the middle of the
street. Um, I highlighted oxidation and

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00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:20,560
raveling. We'll go over that. Those are
the most common types of uh degradations

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00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,800
that we see here in the city. Everybody
knows what pothole is. They rear their

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00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:28,720
ugly heads all the time. Um, and then
the transverse scratching. So, I added a

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00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:33,680
couple of pictures kind of put in
perspective. raveling is when the top

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00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:38,800
coat top cream of the asphalt wears away
the the aggregates and the binders

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00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:42,480
starts coming off the top. Um in reality
what happens the first stage is the

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00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:49,680
oxidation. So we start losing the binder
and it gets down you got a rough road

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:54,079
alligator cracking. So uh the picture on
the right is actually Camelback Road. I

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00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:59,920
get a lot of questions on why is Calac
Road uh have alligator cracking and then

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00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:04,480
alligator cracking in its basis of
definition is a subgrade failure. So

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00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:08,400
anybody that's driven on Camelback Road,
it does have a lot of lines, a lot of

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00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,640
cracks that we filled. Um and when I say
we, I mean MCDOT because that was their

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00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:16,000
road. Um but it doesn't have failures. A
really good sub race. So I added the

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picture on the left. You can see that
what's happening is water gets in there

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00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:23,920
uh changes in temperature and we start
actually losing uh drivability and the

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00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,680
roughness starts really getting in the
top corner of that picture is actually

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00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,760
asphalt starting to move. So once water
gets into these positions in the asphalt

525
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:36,079
you start getting a lot of different
kinds of failures that we'll go over

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00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:40,480
here.
Uh took some pictures and some other

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00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,800
stuff I had in my archives various
tracking. We see these throughout the

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00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:48,880
various cities. Block cracking. uh the
result of uh tra it's it's mostly

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00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:52,160
traffic related whether it's too much
traffic or not enough traffic. We're

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00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:55,359
always trying to find that midpoint on
what is the road use when they first

531
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,040
design. What is the road going to be
used for? We designed for that type of

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00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,240
traffic that whether it's heavy trucks,
light trucks, cars down the local

533
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:07,760
streets. Uh but in block cracking, which
is what we just saw, I just showed the

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00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,119
picture in countback. You know, heavy
trucks, it was meant for trucks, but not

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:16,240
heavy trucks like we seeing all the
time. uh that countback road has many

536
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:20,640
types of these feathers. Uh transverse
cracking um mostly has to do with

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00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:26,079
temperature changes and we see a lot of
that in our local streets. You see a lot

538
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:31,280
of it in Goodyear. Um what happens is
it's a different changes in temperature

539
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:36,079
and uh asphalt's a flexible pavement
design. So it it moves in chunks kind of

540
00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:39,520
like a slowmoving iceberg. Uh when it
does crack it moves and then it goes and

541
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:44,160
then it widens back when it gets hot
again. and the crack either moves gets

542
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:48,240
bigger or it starts doing uh latinous
shifts. Longitudinal cracking, we see a

543
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,160
lot of that uh down the middle of the
road. So, you know, when they build a

544
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:56,960
street, they can only make the asphalt
hopper what 12 ft max. So, it's about a

545
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:01,359
lane at a time. So, when they actually
build any street, they kind of put two

546
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,480
seams together and then they roll and
they try to do their best, but what

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00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:08,960
happens is a crack will show up. One of
the reasons why we wanted to shut down

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00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:14,160
the roundabout a couple week and a half
ago, almost two weeks now, was to try to

549
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:18,319
avoid this. So, when we sh when we got
permission from council to close the

550
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:22,720
roundabout and put the entire surface
course all in one lift, we didn't have

551
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:27,200
any what's called a cold joint. So, we
don't have as big of a worry to ever see

552
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:31,760
any longitudinal transverse cracks in
our surface course. So, we're going to

553
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:36,240
have a good product for a long time.
And then of course uh potholes on the

554
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:41,599
right. Um you get a pin hole, small
hole, it rains, uh the fines start

555
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,359
coming out, the rocks stay behind, it
dries out, more traffic comes, kids

556
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:50,400
smell fines, then all of a sudden that
pothole just starts growing and growing.

557
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Um and then reflective cracking. Uh I
just have a picture here that shows a

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00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:59,520
square, but it can be in any shape. What
that usually is a result of is when you

559
00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:04,160
put a bad subgrade down or a bad base
course, you put a surface course over

560
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:08,960
the top of it and then over a period of
time with that thermal expansion, the

561
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:16,560
crack show. Uh we actually had a problem
on Florence, we mill overlaid it in 23,

562
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:20,800
great surface course, but one year later
because we didn't go all the way down to

563
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:24,079
the bottom course um and take it out and
put it back in, we have some reflective

564
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:29,520
cracking. So that'll have to be
addressed in the next effort.

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00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:34,720
I mentioned this earlier, ringing and
heaving. Um that's a picture that kind

566
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:38,720
of just puts in perspective on Camelback
Road and areas a little bit further to

567
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:46,240
the east. Uh we don't really have huge
ruting along our frontages or our chill

568
00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:52,400
streets. Uh but what ring and heaving is
caused from there. There's a lot of

569
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:56,960
reasons why it happens, but what I see
is when it's a bad surface course, when

570
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:01,520
it's got a lot of oil, when it wasn't
put down right, our temperatures get to

571
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:07,119
120 degrees, got heavy trucks going
through here, and then it just creates

572
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:12,400
those tracks. Uh, a benefit to any
arterials that have a pretty good mix of

573
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:17,119
passenger vehicles is they kind of iron
it out. So that's why I believe Cambeck

574
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,040
Road doesn't have such a bad ruting
problem is because we have a really good

575
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:24,960
mix of vehicles. But the reason that the
ruting happen is because we have the

576
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:29,040
heavy trucks. And then depressions,
those are usually localized. Um

577
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:33,119
sometimes we see a longer stretch is
usually when there's like a sinkhole, a

578
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:37,599
void. If a contractor put the subgrade
down and there was maybe a root ball or

579
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:42,240
some branches and they, you know,
degrade and then the fines fall through,

580
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:49,200
he starts to have impressions. You see a
lot of those in parking lots.

581
00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:55,359
So general cause of failures big list uh
biggest things I see uh weather you know

582
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:59,520
the biggest failure we have here in uh
in the valley is the oxidizing and the

583
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:04,319
and the raveling and the weather is the
first star that UV rays just degrade

584
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:08,480
that top layer of the binder. Um
construction techniques sometimes fall

585
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:12,160
short. traffic volumes. I mentioned that
before. We have a lot of truck traffic

586
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:17,760
on Cback Road. It really wasn't meant
for that amount of volume of truck

587
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:21,920
traffic. Lots of other things. Uh age
bind age of the binder. So after a

588
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:26,960
certain amount of time, even though
asphalt is a flexible pavement, the

589
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:31,040
binder does become brittle. I mean, you
can get 5, 10, 15 years. It depends on

590
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:36,800
the mix that went down and how it was
put down. You always hope that when we

591
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:41,760
do asphalt, we get the tests done and we
get the lab results and we make sure

592
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:46,240
it's a good um mix. So, up on the
hilltop, we have Nesbbit and Hayden

593
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:49,680
doing a lot of testing of those asphalt
base courses and surface courses, and

594
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:54,240
I'm checking them, checking them,
checking them. We actually do have an

595
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:59,040
issue with one of the pieces of asphalt
that we're working on right now with uh

596
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:04,400
Hayden in the parking lot. So, it would
have high void content. Um, so we're

597
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:08,319
going to possibly see pavement fatigue a
little sooner than we'd like. Um, the

598
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,720
answer to that is either have them fully
take it out or we're going to put um

599
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:15,359
type two micro seal over the top of it.
And then there was another section that

600
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,520
we were talking about that friction
course was another alternative. So we're

601
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,520
going back at them to make sure that the
asphalt is going to be in good shape.

602
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:28,240
» Okay. Um and then subgrade the var
subgrade and asphalt the gradations of

603
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:33,440
thickness and design of the actual
structural section. Those are engineered

604
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:37,520
pieces of an asphalt section. So from
the ground up we make sure that that

605
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,800
it's qualified personnel doing those
designs and they go through the proper

606
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:45,040
reviews and that they're applicable to
what they're you don't want to put a

607
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:48,520
localized street section to replace a
portion of cab.

608
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,760
Uh so payment condition evaluation not
going to read everything. Uh you got PCI

609
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:02,000
index, you got automated distress
surveys. Uh the pacer evaluation is a

610
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:07,280
smaller scale. It's 1 to 10. And then
the PSI rating is 0 to five. So these

611
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,319
bottom two, the pacer PSI, I don't
really do a lot of those. I don't know

612
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:14,640
if you've done any of those and Scott
still. Um usually those are just kind of

613
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:20,160
a quick attack. That's how I kind of
define it is because the scale is only 1

614
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:24,400
to 10 or 0 to five. Uh the PCI index is
an evaluation from 0 to 100 and it is

615
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:29,680
developed over a long period of time.
What you do is you you do an evaluation

616
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,040
of a street and you determine what kind
of failure it is. And a lot of times

617
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:37,040
especially in older streets there's
multiple types of failures. You have

618
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:41,599
transverse cracking, oxidation, ruting,
rattling. So every time there is a

619
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,520
failure identified within the area
you're looking at, you start subtracting

620
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:50,559
numbers from it. And so we start getting
into uh numbers that are falling below

621
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:55,839
100 into the range if you remember the
graph I showed you earlier. Um

622
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:59,040
and then the automated distress survey.
So that's something Ed and I were

623
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:03,280
talking about. Um Ed did a lot of that
in in Scottsdale. We're going to propose

624
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:07,119
to do that here in Lfield Park, but
essentially it's having uh these

625
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:11,920
companies that specialize in uh pavement
condition evaluations. It'd be good for

626
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:15,680
us to start with the streets department
to have a good baseline of our street

627
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:18,880
conditions and having consultants that
specify and doing that kind of work is a

628
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:24,960
very good approach to having that
baseline number.

629
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:31,200
So PCI index the target is 75 70 to 85.
I think that's a generally good range in

630
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:36,000
the valley. um we all kind of I say we
the cities and when I was a consultant

631
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:39,520
always uh kind of determined what a good
rating was and that's how a lot of

632
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,040
cities develop their program is to try
to get their street sections into these

633
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:48,800
ranges and there's a direct dollar
relation to that so that's why it has

634
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:53,119
such a big impact on um so it prior
prioritizes street segments based on

635
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,040
whatever the funding is um and their
rating and like I mentioned before

636
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,359
multiple different types of distresses
as you start subtracting more numbers

637
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:05,119
off. Um, and then the fourth bullet is
very important because the historical

638
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:09,920
data, I went back as part of doing this,
I went back and looked at a lot of our

639
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:13,680
historical uh treatments and in the
early 2000s, we actually did a lot of

640
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,880
chip seal. Um, it's not something I
would have guessed that we would have

641
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,640
done in local streets in in a city
because usually chip seal is something

642
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:24,319
you do in more of a rural area. I grew
up in Jack Rabbit and Camelback and we

643
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,240
had dirt roads until the county came in
and give us chips seal. thought it was

644
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:32,160
it was the greatest day in the world.
Um, but we did a lot of chip seal around

645
00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:35,760
here, so it makes a lot of sense on some
of the fatigue and and stresses and and

646
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,440
failures that we're seeing on some of
these local streets because uh we'll

647
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:42,400
start off with a smaller section and
then when you go out there and actually

648
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:46,160
look at it, it's, you know, it's huge.
It's because it's got all these

649
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:50,640
miniature layers of different kinds of
asphalt uh rejuvenation and that can

650
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:55,359
contribute to failures too because it's
not a homogeneous one single type of

651
00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:00,480
material. and all the pieces are working
against each other.

652
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:06,240
Just want to put it into perspective. I
got another slide, but uh you can see a

653
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:10,079
nice shiny new road in the top left. Um
you know, the PCI of 90 is not that bad.

654
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:15,440
You start seeing some little oxidation.
Look at uh and sorry about the pictures

655
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:19,200
are a little light, but in in the middle
left one, you can start seeing that

656
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,720
there's some raveling. Uh if you zoom in
on the picture on the computer, I can

657
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:26,240
see there's a rocks. And then to the far
right PCI 60, you're starting to get

658
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:31,280
some hairline cracks and some edge
ruting. And then obviously in the bottom

659
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:36,079
two, you can really see those those uh
cracks. And every year that we do some

660
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:39,520
sort of pavement replacement, we're
having we have streets hovering in the

661
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:45,520
neighborhood of somewhere between a low
number and up to 40.

662
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:50,400
Another picture with high high level. Um
see the top left again, not shiny road.

663
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:58,240
Um, and then the bottom right, I think
that was actually a parking lot. Um, so

664
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:01,920
pavement is a flexible material. It
really predicates on if it gets used or

665
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:06,160
doesn't get used because parking lots,
culde-sacs, streets that actually don't

666
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,400
get traffic, their PCI ratings do go
down tremendously.

667
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,920
So, uh, wanted to just go over, you
know, some applications. We got asphalt,

668
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:23,119
we got overlay, we got full depth, we've
got uh patch repairs, trip seal or crack

669
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:27,040
seal. Uh a couple of pictures just to
put in perspective for everybody. Crack

670
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:34,160
seal of course. Uh we did a lot of that
this last round and as well as type two

671
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:38,160
micro seal. So anytime we do a seal of
any kind, whether it's micro seal, a

672
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:43,040
PMM, or there's various other kind of
seals, we're going to do a crack seal

673
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:48,079
first um moving forward. So primarily we
do uh crack seal um almost every every

674
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,359
time you do micro seal you want to do
crack seal. If you do micro seal and

675
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,920
don't do crack seal things start
falling. I know we had a big effort

676
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:59,359
where we put a lot of PMM uh down which
we have a picture from the right there

677
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:03,599
and we didn't do a lot of crack seal. Uh
I know that that was a lot of feedback

678
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:08,720
got from the constituents and members of
council. Um, so I went back and I was

679
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,960
talking to Ed and I just want to make
sure I wasn't going crazy because uh, a

680
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:17,839
lot of times and a lot of cities don't
put a a treatment down before PMM. Uh,

681
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,599
we do a lot of that. We did about half
and half. So we did do a lot of streets

682
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:25,920
this year with just PMM. Uh, we also
want to get it rejuvenated for the next

683
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:29,920
rounds, the next few years. So some of
these streets where we put PMM down,

684
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:33,760
we're going to either do uh, some sort
of overlay or a thicker coat like a

685
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:39,680
micros. So, we're kind of prepping the
street for a future effort all while

686
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:44,319
rejuvenating the oxidiz oxidized street
and the and the raveling. Want to keep

687
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:48,559
the the pedals down.
The slurry seal fog coat's not a you

688
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:52,800
don't really want to do a lot of that.
It doesn't give you many years. You see

689
00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:58,079
a lot of fog coats on parking. It's a
cheap quickie. It gets maybe two years

690
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:03,160
before that top coat starts oxidizing.
Fog coat's not a big thing that you see

691
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:03,160
on the streets.

692
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:10,720
Everybody knows uh pothole and patching.
Uh HTME HDMB

693
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:15,520
highdensity mineral bond. Um one of my
favorite applications. I know Ed likes a

694
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:19,839
lot. We did that on the village uh
before I was in here. Woody did that.

695
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:24,800
Previous city engineer did that HA5. Uh
I got to tell you that stuff is still in

696
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:31,119
really good shape today. The downside to
it is it's slippery. It's a really quick

697
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:34,640
way you lose friction. Um, I know the
previous, uh, one of the previous public

698
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:39,040
works directors, I think, was riding a
motorcycle during a rain and slipped

699
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:43,920
out. Came back and said, "We're never
doing HA5 again."

700
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:47,920
» That's a story I heard. So, um, it's
it's been off the radar for a little

701
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:52,000
while, but um, bang for the buck. It
does cost a little bit. It's pretty

702
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,280
proprietary. I think Hullberg does that
and a couple of people do it, so you

703
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,760
have to schedule with them and have them
come in. But the amount of times I put

704
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:04,079
that stuff down and the way the streets
look these days, that might be a really

705
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:08,079
good um investment option on some of
these streets uh that we want to keep

706
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:11,599
that are good streets we want to keep in
good condition because you can't put HA5

707
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:16,400
on anything that's lower than I think
the 60 [snorts] or 70

708
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:20,880
on the rating.
Like I said, chip seal um it's still

709
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:26,559
prevalent. Cape seal is the same thing
as chip seal. Just put another layer of

710
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:31,839
asphalt by tumin uh tar on top.
We won't be doing that around here, so

711
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:35,760
don't worry about that. Very loud.
Asphalt overlay. Uh, for the most part,

712
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:40,480
we don't do a lot of asphalt overlay
unless we mill first. So, uh, take one

713
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:45,119
and a half inch or more off and put the
same thickness down. Um, I know that

714
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:48,960
when I did a lot of pavement management
for the city of Glendel, they wanted to

715
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:54,480
take one inch off and put two inches
back on. And so, uh, and and a lot of

716
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:58,400
streets for some reason. and we did some
cores and you can see that that's just

717
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,599
their preference. Um they had some
drainage issues and if we have drainage

718
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,880
issues in the same way we're going to
have a crown street that's an option we

719
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:10,400
can look at without tearing the whole
street out or just add on to it.

720
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,760
And then of course pool depth uh removal
reconstruction we did that on a few

721
00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:18,200
streets. We're going to do that on u
another street coming up here at the end

722
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,200
of August.

723
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:25,680
Something that we don't see very lot
just want to throw um uh up on here is

724
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,359
uh cold and place recycled asphalt and
hot in place recycled asphalt. I don't

725
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:35,119
know Ed did you do a lot of that in
Scottdale still? It's a it's it's a very

726
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,200
cost effective way to get large sections
of street. So if we wanted to just

727
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:43,839
rejuvenate all of the park, all of
Camelback or all of Wigwam in one shot,

728
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:48,799
what happens is that it's all one
operation. The truck in the front um is

729
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:54,079
dropping off oil. The milling machine
dumps it in there, mixes it. Um the

730
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:59,839
blade picture that you see, it's all
based on rotations and how fast it goes

731
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:03,839
on how uh the aggregate is broken up.
They inject the emulsion and it comes

732
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:08,319
out asphalt. So they're recycling the
asphalt in place and they're rolling it.

733
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:13,599
So this asphalt that you see here just
got, you know, chewed up up here. So

734
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:17,920
that is something to consider when we
want to go after uh funds for doing

735
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:23,680
countback rope.
And then FDR's full depth reclamation.

736
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:27,680
So this asphalt section here takes off
the top coat. Full depth reclamation

737
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:32,400
gets all the way down to the asphalt and
the sub rate. It actually mixes the AB

738
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,799
and the pulverized asphalt and makes it
all new asphalt.

739
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:43,359
So just really quick wanted to go over a
couple of uh

740
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:48,480
failures in their treatment. So raing
oxidation want to do slurs pas micro

741
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:53,280
seals HMV mill and overlay when it's a
bad enough situation. Uh when you have

742
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,880
real alligator cracking it's full depth
replacement. So when we start looking at

743
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:00,960
asphalt and we give the PCI rating,
we're going to give it a really low

744
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:03,920
score because that uh when the rock or
when the chunks of asphalt start really

745
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:09,280
coming apart and rattling like that,
there's no rejuvenate

746
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:13,680
various longitudinal cracks uh block
transverse [snorts] reflective. We do a

747
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:18,720
lot of crack seal slurry pment. That's
the majority of what we did this last

748
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:22,079
effort. Um, some situations where you
have big cracks, which we saw in a few

749
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:27,400
locations, we have a mill and overlay
that has to go down full depth and have

750
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,400
to bring in fresh asphalt.

751
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:37,440
Bottles again, tear the whole thing out.
We did a 15 of them on Camelback Road a

752
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:41,680
couple months ago. um just had big holes
after um a lot of use. And so we had a

753
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,160
contractor come out after we did the
mill and overlay of diceart and they

754
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:50,040
filled 15 spots just cuz potholes just
get worse. They don't get any better.

755
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:58,319
I did not do that presentation. So I'm
just surprised. Edge cracking or edge

756
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:03,440
failure. That's actually a picture um
from here in the city uh that was

757
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:06,400
rejuvenated in before I got here. Um,
but the answer to that is you either

758
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:11,839
mill it all out or take the whole
asphalt out. And the the culprit is

759
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,680
water infiltration. And the reason why I
show that picture is because we do have

760
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:19,440
a very green city. You have a lot of
situations where that does happen. So

761
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,160
these next couple years, we'll be
looking at some of these edge failures

762
01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:26,640
and trying to repair them. You see a lot
of that up in the areas where um, you

763
01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:31,319
know, Voeva, Acacia, all that area up
there has uh quite a few of these

764
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:31,319
locations.

765
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,960
Similarly, uh with these type of
fitters, full depth replacement, uh if

766
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:41,680
you do have a really good section on
these rabbit hung and heaving areas, we

767
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:46,400
can't just shave them off. Um more often
than not, you got to go deep. And that's

768
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:50,640
again another reference of what I think
we're going to have to do for Camelback

769
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:57,520
Road when that time does come.
I got to the last slide. Uh this is a

770
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:02,880
cost kind of uh evaluation of the last
couple years I found went back to 2006.

771
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:07,119
So, I was very surprised at how close
some of the unit prices came and

772
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:11,920
actually uh some of them uh haven't gone
up very much and some has gone down. Now

773
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:16,799
the unit price of the first bullet here
depends heavily on your square footage.

774
01:01:14,319 --> 01:01:23,280
Um I can tell you in 2006 we didn't do a
lot and in 2023 we did a decent amount.

775
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:28,079
Um 2026 we did more than all of those
combined

776
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:32,160
lifespan of you know we got 15 to 20
years out of every do mill and overlay.

777
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:37,599
You can see that the unit price is more
expensive. Uh it's worth it if you can

778
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:45,280
keep up with the rejuvenation. So like
we did u my tainter and

779
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:49,440
» it's yeah we did that two three years
ago and the next effort we're going to

780
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:52,400
put a PMM layer. So that's a brand new
asphalt. There's no block track, no

781
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:57,760
cracks at all. We're going to rejuvenate
it uh for a few dollars a square yard

782
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:01,520
and um that asphalt is going to be good
for the next 25 years.

783
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:11,920
That's it. Uh, I hope everybody enjoyed
my last speech until over to Ed. So,

784
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:16,640
there are any questions, concerns?
>> Mr. Vice Mayor, did you say a couple of

785
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:19,599
our streets are double layer chip
sealed?

786
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:28,240
» Multiple layers from what I can tell
from looking at um old uh PMP reports,

787
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:32,400
» but they started out as as chip sealer.
They I think they're rejuvenating the

788
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:37,119
chipset. I can't find a lot of
information asphalt is. I do have some

789
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:39,760
pictures from the 60s. It's you know
black asphalt's going down. I don't know

790
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:46,000
how thick it is or what kind of
gradation, but there was a big push

791
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:49,760
actually in 2006 area where um crack
seal was the rejuvenation level that

792
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:54,480
went down and I think it was more that
cape seal where you put put

793
01:02:52,319 --> 01:03:01,040
binder down, drop the rocks and another
binder and most people wouldn't even

794
01:02:56,559 --> 01:03:05,119
know that it is [snorts] a chip seal.
Those watch

795
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:10,960
is the mill and overlay the one where
they take the old one up and it's all

796
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:14,880
done in the one process.
>> U council member the uh the mill and

797
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,680
overlay. So there's the milling overlay
mill in place. The milling overlay

798
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:20,799
they'll take off about one and a half
inches and then put one and a half

799
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:26,079
inches back up. The cold in place
recycling is when they take it all out,

800
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:29,520
mix it and then inject the hot or the
cold asphalt and then put it back down

801
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:34,799
right behind it. Where does that fall
costwise in this?

802
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:38,799
» We have never um done that. So um I have
done it before and the the costs are

803
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:43,760
comparable to the mill and overlay
>> and is it is it something that can be

804
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:49,039
driven on eight hours later or?
>> Yep. It's it's just like cod asphalt. Um

805
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:52,799
we're about to do Cascada um and they'll
have an overnight closure, but in all

806
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:59,200
reality once they put it down and the
temperature goes down to below what does

807
01:03:54,799 --> 01:04:03,359
it have to be? 160 170 I think once once
it's below that temperature you can open

808
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,400
it traffic. So when the cold in place
recycling if we do that on camelback

809
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:12,880
road it'll actually go pretty quick
because it's not a hot injection of of

810
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:16,000
bumment. It's the hot in place um that
they have it really heated up and they

811
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:21,280
have a fire going and they they really
cook it when they put it down.

812
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:27,039
» And last question several years ago um
ADOT rubberized the freeway. member I 10

813
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:31,599
getting rubberized. What is that process
and is that something we should consider

814
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:36,240
maybe for Camelback Road?
>> Council member, uh that is definitely

815
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:40,400
always an option. Um there's been a lot
of and and ADOT only went rubberized

816
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,920
forever. Whenever I did a fairway
design, you had to put that on. The last

817
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:50,160
couple years before I came here, it was
always uh we want to do a high traffic

818
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:55,200
super paved regular asphalt like/ inch
or 38 inch. The the reason why is

819
01:04:53,200 --> 01:05:00,559
because you're going to get you're it's
going to cost a little bit more uh to

820
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:05,520
put it down. The problem with ARA CFC
and the rubberized asphalt is there's no

821
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:10,799
rejuvenation. So once the you can't just
slurry it. So in two to five years when

822
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:15,680
the asphalt wears and and the sun
oxidizes it and you get all the stuff in

823
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:19,839
your gutters, you'll have like the top
of a Rice Krispie treat is how I like to

824
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:24,160
tell everybody. And then it's a little
rough. And so I think that's actually

825
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:28,559
what they had on Camelback Road and um
it's kind of got the remnants of it. The

826
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:33,359
only you can do is mill it out and put
new asphalt down. A lot of the reason

827
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:38,880
why we do AR the rubberized asphalt is
for noise and the new 3/4 inch and half

828
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:43,200
inch mixes. U there's evac mixes,
there's city of Phoenix mixes, and

829
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:47,920
there's mag mixes. There's lots of other
mixes. Um but the new mixes now have

830
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:52,160
decal levels that are very comparable to
rubberized asphalt and they can be

831
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:57,119
rejuvenated.
>> Well, thank you. Um Ed, first of all,

832
01:05:55,119 --> 01:06:01,680
welcome to the city. I'm so glad that
you joined us. We I think are in need of

833
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:08,960
a street superintendent. So glad to
welcome you to the team. Um Keith, as

834
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:15,839
far as the um pavement management plan
and the pavement condition evaluation,

835
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:20,480
can you take us through how on an annual
basis this looks to make sure that all

836
01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:25,039
of our treat our streets receive
treatments every 5 to 10 years? What

837
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:28,640
what can our residents expect every year
from us?

838
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:35,440
» Well, thank you, Council Member Allen.
Um so in the past, what we do is uh

839
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:39,039
glamorizing it by calling the windshield
inspection, but I actually get out of

840
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:44,319
the truck when I look at the streets.
Um, so there is an actual physical

841
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:48,559
evaluation at each street. Um, when a
street has a section that might all be

842
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:52,880
the same type of failure. If you have to
do a lot of crack seal, you isolate it

843
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:57,359
by, you know, a 40 or 50 foot section by
the width and you evaluate that street

844
01:06:55,119 --> 01:07:02,240
and then you can choose to do more or
less. Um, so we do that on every single

845
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:06,480
street section. And when I say each
street section, it's between each block.

846
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:13,200
So where if you have all of uh you know
WigWall, it's going to be uh

847
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:17,280
Lichfield to Wigw to to desert, desert
to old Lfield all the way down. And we

848
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:22,559
do that with every street. So we do an
actual evaluation. We do uh an

849
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:26,880
evaluation of the historical information
uh whether it got slurry sealed or micro

850
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:31,280
sealed. And that that plays into the PCI
index. We give it a numerical

851
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:36,400
evaluation. Um, and there's a small
equation that you can do, uh, depending

852
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:40,640
if there's multiple failures. So, what
we do with that information each year is

853
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:45,200
we we have obviously what it's graded,
whether the street's got a 60 or a 40 or

854
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:50,720
an 80 or 90. If it has high numbers,
it's dep prioritized compared to the

855
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:56,319
lower number ones. If we have a large
number of say 40 or under, like we we

856
01:07:53,920 --> 01:08:01,039
actually do have a few of those streets,
we can either elect to only do removal

857
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:05,359
and replacement of that piece of of
those pieces of asphalt and not do any

858
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:09,839
slurry seal or crack seal or micro
sealer or PMM or we break it up like we

859
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:14,160
did this last year. So we break it up
and we do a complete removal and

860
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:18,159
replacement of one street for whatever
the cost of and then we can get another

861
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:25,600
100 street sections done with a
combination of slurry or micro seal

862
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:30,799
crack. So there is a detailed evaluation
on how we can manage the funding because

863
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:34,319
we can either do all of one kind and
catch up in that way over a period of

864
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:39,040
time or we can give a little attention
to each street and raise the numbers

865
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:42,400
over a slower period of time and then
have a good baseline which is what it

866
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,640
has been that's been the approach for
the last from what I can tell and my

867
01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:51,040
predecessor that was his approach and we
carry that on. Uh that is a discussion

868
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:55,279
that Ed and I had is what is our future
approach and I did mention that I think

869
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:58,640
what our attack is going to be is we
want to come up with the baseline

870
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:02,400
evaluation for each street starting day
one and that's where we're going to have

871
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:06,640
the streets super who has done a lot of
that stuff millions and millions of

872
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:09,759
miles I hear. So we're going to we're
going to take the historical information

873
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:14,159
but we're just going to use that as a
reference in our new baseline. Once we

874
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:17,600
have the baseline of all the streets
we're going to prioritize based on the

875
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,799
available funding. And I've had
discussions with the city manager, you

876
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:25,759
know, I think this year we have a
million dollars. I think we have 600,000

877
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:33,279
in her and we have 400,000 in uh capital
contingency or general fund. So for a

878
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:39,199
million dollars you can either do
150 slurry sections or you can do a

879
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:42,880
couple of RNRs and you know maybe 40 or
50 slurry and PMS. So what we're going

880
01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:45,920
to do is see where we're at in the
baseline and how that needs to apply to

881
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:49,839
all the street sections. So we are going
to go through a detailed analysis. I

882
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:53,839
don't have the exact breakup right now
because we just got done through the

883
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:59,920
whole effort. We spent 1
four million three.

884
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:03,280
» Um and I think we got 140 street
sections. So which is one of the biggest

885
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:07,280
pushes we've had in a long time. So we
have a really good baseline now of

886
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:12,239
historical information that we can
springboard off of.

887
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,800
» Questions.
First, thank you for putting this

888
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,760
together. A lot of hate. I feel like I
just sat in it on school class. There's

889
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:22,400
a reason I'm a dumb mover and not an
engineer. Uh

890
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:26,560
love seeing that we we got a plane going
forward and that we got Ed on board to

891
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:30,640
to help you manage this and have it go
forward. I'm really excited to see how

892
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:34,080
we can take it um and elevate everything
that we're doing. We've talked about

893
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:40,320
that for a long time. I'd love to see us
take the opportunity to project three,

894
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:44,000
five, 10 years and be able to budget so
that we if we see that we're having

895
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:48,560
failures in areas that we can ask for
budget in advance so that we can plan

896
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:52,400
for it and not be reactive to things
that are not getting done or that got

897
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:57,120
skipped and and have different issues.
So Ed Hson, I would love for you to ask

898
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:02,000
you to as you're evaluating uh with
Keith what we're doing to to look

899
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:06,640
forward and to see, okay, this is good
for now, but in three years, we need

900
01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:10,960
this in this space so we can get city
leadership to be able to give us real uh

901
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:14,239
budget numbers to plan for so we can get
these roads where they need to be and

902
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,840
not have to wait a full 10 year cycle to
get everything that's there. But Keith,

903
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:22,000
thank you for this. I know it's been a
hard push this last little bit and

904
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:26,560
appreciate the other concert. Always
fun. I love playing an

905
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,159
» All right. Thank you for your
presentation.

906
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:34,320
» Thank you.
>> Appreciate everybody.

907
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:39,120
» All right. That takes us to our next
item,

908
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:44,800
the presentation set
which is a presentation

909
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:53,760
Peterson
as the 2026 gofo

910
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:57,920
a I guess government financial officer a
>> finance excellence award which I think

911
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,920
is going to be presented by the city
manager.

912
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,719
» Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um, mayor and
council, we want to take this time to

913
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:10,560
recognize Paige that she has received
this award. So, annually there are 20

914
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:14,560
nominations for this award and there are
two that are selected and she was one of

915
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:17,679
the two for this year. Um, to me, one of
the biggest honors for Paige for this,

916
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:22,239
she doesn't mind me saying this, is that
who this nomination came from and that

917
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,719
it came from her own employees. And that
says something for her for what they

918
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:28,400
think of her and her work relationship
with her. And as you guys know, it's

919
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:33,040
been said in many council meetings.
Paige does a great job as assistant city

920
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,840
manager, but also as finance director.
Paige keeps us keeps our numbers where

921
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:39,280
they need to be and lets us know when
they're not where they need to be. And

922
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:43,360
she does a fantastic job. Makes my life
a whole lot easier. And I think she she

923
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:46,320
very much deserve this deserves this
award. And I think she'd like to have

924
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:50,360
things to say, too. But congratulations
to Pa. You certainly earned it.

925
01:12:55,199 --> 01:13:03,280
I just want to say thank you to Maria
and Lisa and Monica. They were the three

926
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:08,400
that submitted the nomination. I was
very touched by it. Very surprised when

927
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:11,440
I opened the email that I got the award.
I thought they were talking about the

928
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:16,239
annual one we get every year and I was
like, "Oh, I guess they're going to give

929
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:23,040
me the button at the lunchon rather than
mail it to me." So, thank you ladies and

930
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:27,360
thank thank you Matthew for your support
and mayor and council as well.

931
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:30,560
» Well, congratulations. We we appreciate
all the hard work you put in on our

932
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:35,840
keeping our financial statements
accurate and all the modeling you do for

933
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:39,920
us and help us helping us at making
decisions long term. So, thank you. And

934
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:42,960
it's great that you were recognized for
your work by others. Thanks.

935
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:47,280
» Thank you.
Every time we think

936
01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:50,280
she can't get any better, she gets
better.

937
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:55,880
» There's no place left to go. She
>> she rises.

938
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:01,760
» All right, that takes us to our report
section. All the reports are in the

939
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:08,960
packet. If you have questions about
them, please direct those functions of

940
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:13,440
I don't think there are any that we need
updates on specifically. Then we're

941
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:18,880
going to go to the consent agenda item
8A approved

942
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:22,120
eight. Is there an item on consent that
council memb

943
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:33,920
» a anything else?
Is there a motion to adopt consent

944
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:35,360
agenda items 8 B through H. So move
second.

945
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:40,880
» Second.
>> All those in favor please say I.

946
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:47,280
» I. Any opposed?
Items B8 are adopted. Sent item A. Vice

947
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:50,960
Mayor, you have a question you would
like to discuss.

948
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:57,120
» Uh, yes. The minutes of the meeting June
17th where we adopted the final budget.

949
01:14:54,880 --> 01:15:01,280
Says a motion was made by none and I
seconded it. You

950
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:05,760
» did a good job. [laughter]
>> It's our it's our budget. So probably

951
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:11,679
probably ought to get that fixed and
made correct. I think that's on page 94

952
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:19,120
and then on 98
uh which is the same meeting June 17th

953
01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:25,320
meeting um fiscal year salary range
schedule and position roster mover or

954
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,320
none seconded

955
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:32,080
what's that word
>> second

956
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:36,239
council member Braard Watson so probably
ought to find who made that motion stick

957
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,600
it in there also
>> correct

958
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:42,560
break
>> or approve as amended.

959
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:49,239
» I'm sorry.
>> Approve as amended. So bring a motion to

960
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:57,560
bring back
the

961
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,560
we

962
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:12,760
» just this the June 17 minutes, right?
the rest of them.

963
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:12,760
» Page 94 and 98 of our packet. June 17th

964
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:19,880
» uh special meeting June 17th regular
meeting

965
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,840
» approve the rest.

966
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:35,440
» So we could approve if we wish the
>> July 9th special meeting. So we can

967
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:43,040
approve July June 3rd and then July 9 27
30 26 special meetings. So we need a

968
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:49,440
motion to approve items on on item 8A.
We're going to approve items uh June 3rd

969
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:55,600
26 work study session minutes
July 9th 27th and 30th special meeting

970
01:16:53,920 --> 01:17:02,080
minutes
and refer the June 17th special and

971
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:08,719
regular meeting minutes back to the city
clerk for for corrections. Is there a

972
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:14,080
motion for that?
>> Any further discussion? All those in

973
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:19,199
favor please say I. I
>> all right it

974
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:23,920
that takes care of our business section.
We do not need an executive session.

975
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:28,080
» No sir,
Mr. Mayor.

976
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,440
» We Sorry, sir. We do need a short
executive session.

977
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,760
» I'm sorry.
>> I'm sorry, sir. We do need a short

978
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,199
executive session.
>> You need to speak more quickly.

979
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:42,239
» Yes, I'll try.
>> Maybe slower with the gaffles

980
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:45,520
for get out of here before 8:30. Okay.
Okay, then we're going to bring the

981
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:49,440
meeting back to order so we can weigh
ourselves in executive session. Motion

982
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,640
move which under which item executive
session A or B?

983
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:58,960
» AB or B, sir?
>> B. So, is there a motion to go in

984
01:17:54,080 --> 01:18:02,960
executive session? Item 10 E.
>> Have a second.

985
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:08,280
» All those clear say I.
Any opposed? All right, we're going to

986
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,280
executive session.