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you please join us in the pledge of allegiance led by Councilman Blair.
» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation,
indivisible, liberty and justice for all.
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We get started with help from the port.
You have like to say this even. >> Thank you, mayor. I just wanted to share
that I was able to part uh participate at the library ribbon cutting and that
was a very special moment. Um it felt like such a community in there. I know
that there are probably some other council members that felt the same way.
And I just wanted to share some kind of specific feedback that I got. I have a
friend who has a um seventh grader, her son who is autistic, and she said that
it was very meaningful to her that she could use the um family restroom at the
new library. And that was something that I I just wanted to share that that that
might not have been something that we, you know, I I just want to give kudos to
the planner who put that in there because I think it was definitely
something that added a lot of value for the community. Thank you.
» Thank you, Council Fraser. >> Um it's been a while, but uh
congratulations to the city for the third of July event. Uh it was another
fantastic year. So, building on the success of the first year, uh I know my
family appreciated it and I think a lot of families, a lot of people in
Lichfield and from the surrounding area appreciate it. So, thank you. Um you
know, thank you to staff. Uh you had a very tight timeline with the the library
and all the improvements that were required. Um I know how hard that is to
pull all that together. So, you did a great job. Uh so, thank you, you know,
for getting that done on behalf of the city. Um, and I want to, you know,
certainly recognize, uh, Aendale PD for their professionalism. There's been some
incidents, you know, this summer, uh, including one recently. Uh, they're a
very professional organization. I'm very proud that we have them in our city. Um,
I'm very proud to have them on a lighter note out at Lichfield Elementary School.
So, they're out there every morning. Um, I'm one of the many parents that
participate in that chaos of dropping their kids off. Um, and having Aendale
PD out there, especially at the beginning of the year, uh, helping
direct traffic and and help us parents figure out what to do because we forgot
over the summer, is is a great help. Um, and they're certainly appreciated.
» Thank you, Councilman James. No report. >> Brandon Watson,
» I have a good report as well. Um, I also attended the uh grand opening. I c came
at that with a very different perspective because that corner means a
lot to our family. And so seeing seeing it go full circle, for those of you who
don't know, I grew up on the corner where CVS is now. That entire property
was where our house and my dad's farm and everything that was important to him
was. And uh change wasn't always easy. you know, the road came in, cut us off
from the park, destroyed the lifestyle that we loved so much. But in the end,
uh, the change has been positive, and to be in the library and see all of the
historical nods, the chandelier, um, the mural, which I'd like to give
kudos to Catitude Arts. I was one of the people who was kind of uh questioning
whether or not they were going to actually follow through or not, but they
did a great job and it has a lot of the historical elements of the park that are
so important. So, um and then seeing the high school is marvelous. I have a son
who would have benefited from it and I know that looking down into the future,
we will have generations of kids who are going to finally find where they belong
and their people before they get out of high school. So that's really really
cool. Um I also attended the 3rd of July event. I went listening. I like to go to
those things and eaves drop. Um it's getting harder to do is my hearing is
better than my listening or my listening is better than my hearing. But I didn't
hear single negative from anybody. Usually there's someone who's belly
aching. It was great. Um we attended the Coast Guard flag raising a week or so
ago. Suzanne was there. Um, marvelous job with that. Went off flawlessly. It's
amazing to think that we have retired Coast Guard members here who are willing
to come and give their time for their country. And all of the guys were
retired. You could tell by their age. Um, and we don't have a Coast Guard
facility really close to us here. Wonder why. Um, but it was really good. Really
good. I also um got the opportunity to attend a lunchon with Mayor show for the
Southwest Valley Chamber of Commerce and that was very nice. Well done.
Um I had so much I wanted to say. So I
wanted to take this moment to publicly congratulate our new members to the
council and to welcome them. Um by now everybody knows the results and I'm
perfectly fine the result as it is. I'm ecstatic that the mayor and vice mayor
were both reelected. Um, and um, everybody has a time and
place and mine has been wonderful. I've appreciated everything I've done with
this city and all of the work you all do. So, that's my report.
» Thank you, Counc.
» I um was at the ground or the ribbon cutting as well and what a great
experience the library. I mean, just a step forward for the city and and the
the hilltop school to to look at the faces as we were sitting there and the
balloon drop and it it was pretty special to be able to see that, you
know, how many people were able to affect through time and just to watch
the kids in those faces. They wouldn't have been able to to get that experience
or or have the ability of growing that way. Um, something I definitely want to
talk about right now though is Yosha, you did a great job run of the run of
the show putting everything together, make sure we were where we needed to be.
that was so appreciated. I also want to thank all the staff with these storms
that we've been dealing with this last week. Um, everybody mobilized, everybody
got engaged. Matthew and I were out pulling trees out of roads at 11:00 at
night. Um, it was just good to see the community come together, everybody
working, the public works team coming in, WCA, and the amount of work they've
done in just three days. I mean, kudos to everybody for making that come
together. It was great effort to to try and get the city back together as much
as possible with as much as we've lost.
» Thank you, Councilman. Mr. Vice Mayor, >> uh, thank you, mayor. I got a couple of
things to add to what everybody else has said. Um,
the election is over, thank goodness. Uh, it was done in the primary. We don't
have to go to the general, so we are done hopefully seeing signs for a while.
uh elections at the county level, the state level,
uh the federal level can be difficult, for lack of a better word, at
times. Uh our elections in Lichfield Park were very cordial, uh very
professional, and I want to thank everybody who's involved in the entire
process. Um, it's what makes our town special, uh, to be able to go through
this kind of process to get together afterwards with our friends, with our
neighbors, uh, and and move forward. So, thank you everyone uh, for what you did
uh, in the election. Uh, special congratulations to Sarah Pearson, uh,
who is a top getter, uh, Cody Conklin, the mayor, and myself. We're all going
to be around starting next year. I was first appointed on the council in
2004. I ran for reelection five times. Um,
every time I ran an election, I received the highest votes. And suddenly I got
beat by by 12 votes by Sarah who who worked it hard and I congratulate her
for that. Uh I I didn't do a lot. I decided to run solely on my record. Uh I
put up some signs, couple of Facebook posts and that was pretty much it. And
the signs were old signs from old elections. So I didn't spend a penny. Um
figured if my record didn't stand, then so be it. it could be a win-win for both
of us. Um,
I I view the results of the election uh because there were there were
significant differences
in the structuring of votes and and I I view it as a reaffirmation
uh that the mayor and I have proceeded down a path for many many
years uh that the citizens appreciate and wish us to continue in
that that that same direction. Um, yeah, I think we've done a good job. Uh,
[sighs] it's always hard to to tell to see the
future. Hindsight's always 2020. Uh, but u, I think as things have come together,
it it's worked out. It's very important to us to preserve our small town
atmosphere and do it in the face of development pressures that are around us
and within our city. And I think we've been able to to handle that well. And I
look forward to four more years, my last four years as a council member and the
mayor's last four years as a mayor because we are term limited. uh as the
new charter. Uh but we've uh we had some work to do in those four years and then
you know pass pass the wand. Uh different subject
city has been in the news the last u week or two
uh from a very sad family situation. I I want to reaffirm to
all of our citizens that Lichfield Park is a very safe community to live in.
The council reviews the police and the fire reports every month. We have an
excellent police department. Our police chief lives in Lichville Park. We have
an excellent fire department. Our deputy chief lives in Lichville Park. The
services that we get are excellent.
Uh we've increased our spending on public
safety in the last when did we hire fire department? 10
years ago, 15 years ago, 15 probably >> 15 years ago. uh we've we've
concentrated on on the safety of this community and everything that we do
includes an analysis of how is that going to affect our
citizens? Is it going to affect safety? Is it going to increase safety? That's
in all of our minds every time we we look at any issue that comes.
Uh all of my children live here. All of my grandchildren live in this city. Uh
the safety is very very important to me.
Unfortunately, we've had a couple of high-profile cases and and they've
happened within families and within their homes
where our public safety experts really can react only after the fact. Uh our
our hearts go out to those families. Uh fortunately though, our streets are
safe, our parks are safe, our city is is is one of the safest places in this
state uh to reside.
Please also remember that this increase in safety that we
provide, it really only happens within our our city boundaries. It's a
difficult situation u because we have an 85340
zip code that includes an area that is dozens and dozens and dozens of times
bigger than than this city is. Uh but they all have the same the same address.
But those areas outside the city boundaries
do not get this increased level of services that that we provide. And
that's one of the reasons why we are so safe because of that increased level of
services.
[clears throat]
Finally, I'd like to ask staff, and I've mentioned this to Matthew before.
I think it's important to our city that we have signage markers that show where
our boundaries actually are. Um, our staff gets calls all the time saying,
"Hey, I live in Lichfield." And you got to tell them, "No, you don't." and they
say, "Yes, I do. My broker told me." And you're going to tell them, "No, they
don't." And there's kind of push and pull and back and forth and some
problems with the staff. Uh, I think it would be valuable to our citizens,
valuable to us to for know where the boundaries are. Uh, and I'm not asking
for some expensive monument, big great thing. All I'm asking for is one or two
poles in the ground that a sign that says welcome to Lville Park, you know,
and maybe on the back of it says leaving Lynchville Park, you know, the city of
Lichfield Park. Uh so we can we can differentiate.
Uh I'd like to see maybe staff think about that, maybe figure out if that's
going to be a big expense, if it's possible to do. Thank you.
» Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Uh just a couple of comments.
Everybody mentioned about the library and the school. Those are really
important events for the uh for the city and for the southwest island. Uh for
myself, it has been more than a decade that was spent working on the hilltop
and trying to figure out how how can the hilltop become a sustainable asset for
the city and the residents and for the southwest island in the way that it used
to be. uh given the fact that maintaining it is such a huge expense
that literally when we first received it as a gift if we had done a good job
maintaining it that's all we could have done as a city period. uh it is it was a
tremendous it's a tremendous asset but it carried tremendous responsibilities
and I I am very excited that the library and the school and the theater
museum are coming the band stand re rehab project is coming
we're going to have a beautiful asset you can see it actually coming you know
coming to life and that's that's wonderful uh the library already is busy
which is really I was concerned, you know, how many people would actually
come to this brand new library. Uh, but it's busy and that's exactly what we
want to see. Uh, the opening of the school was tremendous. The kids that are
in there are they look like really good kids. Uh, they are excited about their
new programming, things that they're going to be able to learn. So, it's it's
nothing but a win-win for our for our our community. On a sad note, the uh one
of the things that was special about the the library was being able to see it
dedicated to the memory of Max Wilson. Max was tremendously important to the
entire Southwest Valley, to the whole West Valley really. He was probably was
probably the first major developer other than maybe John Fong that actually
developed communities out here and got life on the West Valley started. uh he
he put a lot into our community. So the the library actually was a very
important it was a very important project for him once he became
supervisor. Uh but it was really sad because his family was not able to
participate in the opening because uh Max's wife Judith literally died a
couple days before the opening ceremony. Uh so as a family they were not able to
participate and I'm sorry for that. We we are going to have the whole family at
some point come over to the library and and show them the plaque and talk to
them about about how important the family has been to the to the park. Uh
but I only wanted to mention it as it was it was the one thing that was sad
about that day of dedicating the library or opening the library.
Uh the other thing I wanted to say mention is that the staff really is to
be commended for getting the library and and working with the Alma Pria school
district to get the school done on time. When when we agreed with Al Pria that
have this open by August the 3rd I think it was I wasn't convinced 100% that we
would make it happen but the staff worked very very hard on it and did a
tremendous job. uh they're trying to coordinate just to coordinate uh all
these different governmental unit units together all the different contractors
all the different engineering firms. Uh it it's tremendous that it was that it
was pulled off and I'm and I'm proud to say that that for the library the
library came in on on budget and on time which is very unusual for government
projects. So thank you to the staff. Um,
also I want to welcome for those of you who got met, my son Matthew is here.
He's from Chicago and he just, you know, couldn't wait to come and see a council
meeting. Can't understand why. I hope he enjoys this. With that, we'll go to the
city manager report. If anyone has questions for the city manager, you have
his report in your packet. >> Mr. Mayor, a couple quick comments if
you don't mind. >> Um, as the mayor said, the report is in
your pocket in your packet. Questions you may have. Um, a lot of things that I
was going to say have been said. It's been a very very busy few weeks in in
the city. Some some good and some bad. Um,
so many things to say about staff and all the work that in the library. I was
there for the the discussions, the debates, the stops in the hallways.
Well, what about this? Why don't we try that? Will this work? So many pieces and
thoughts and just giving of ourselves that we're in this project where it was.
And for me, that means a lot to me. And and it was fun. For me, it was. and I
hope the staff that was involved think so too and we'll talk about that more
later this year. Um, I would also like to thank the council for having the
courage to move forward with the library project. Those of you that were here, it
was it was a it was contentious at times, but you had the courage to move
ahead and do what you thought and what I think was best for the city. And that
takes courage to do that. It really does. And for me that we we pulled it
off. We got done and it opened on time. You may remember when we during the
presentation when I said the library would open August of this year. The
audience actually laughed, but it happened. The school opened, the
roundabout open. The library opened and it's again, it's just been a fun ride.
Thank you so much for council and staff for every thing that went into that.
» I think that's when Ry's eyes started twitching.
» They still were. [laughter]
And and again, everyone did a great job and thank you so much for all the work
that went into that. And again for the last week with everything that went on
in the community with law enforcement with a tragedy that happened.
I I don't know what else to say but our prayers for the family and thank you for
the job that police did. Also this weekend this week with the
storms it's already been said council cla thank you. I can honestly say I've
never ran logging chains with a council member before. We were out there pulling
trees of the road at midnight and hope he had as much fun as I did.
» Yeah. So, and thank you to public grounds for all their work in uh WCA and
for Bright View as well. It's been a very busy week for staff getting roads
cleared, getting yards cleared and I really think when you see the damage,
when you see the trees, the cars that no one was hurt. It really is amazing and
certainly thank one comment I would also say is that you may have noticed that
our city attorney has changed his appearance for tonight.
So, Joe couldn't be with us because of course this is an offite council
meeting. So Michelle Stinson is here with us and we're glad to have her.
She's an attorney also with Pierce Coleman and normally represents the city
of Youngtown >> and thank you for being here with us
tonight. >> Thank you. I appreciate the warm
welcome. >> Thank you, mayor and council.
» All right. Any other questions? The city manager, get them to him directly. This
takes us to the call the community. We have one request to speak. This is an
opportunity for for for citizens to speak to the council on an agenda item.
Uh we have a request to speak from LA.
» Voting measures.
» Thank you. Thanks, Mayor and Council. Thanks for all that you do, all of you.
I know some of you personally, and I'm just thankful for our community. Um so,
my name is Kelly Troy Orbone, and I'm a resident here, and I live on Oro Vista.
Like so many people in our community, I was heartbroken seeing the trees that we
lost this week. And it made me think about something
bigger than simply cleaning up after a storm at midnight.
What do we want Lichfield Park to look like 25, 50, or even 100 years from now?
One of the thing that things that makes our community so special is our trees.
When you drive down old Lichfield, when you walk past Turtle Park, when you walk
past the former library, the wigwam, and throughout our neighborhoods, you
immediately know you're in Lichfield Park. And that didn't happen
accidentally. More than 100 years ago, when Paul Lichfield and architect LG
Knight were planning this community, landscaping was a big part of that
vision. Those trees became part of the identity of Lichfield Park. So rather
than simply mourning the trees we've lost, which I have cried walking around
the park and seeing that, um, I'd love for us to use this moment as an
opportunity. Could we create a Lichfield Park legacy tree initiative? Maybe this
becomes a partnership between the city, residents, businesses, civic
organizations, and our historical society. People could sponsor trees.
Families could plant trees in memory of or in honor of someone. Businesses could
help fund them. We could identify historically appropriate trees and
locations with the help of arborists and the city. And perhaps we establish a
long-term goal that whenever significant trees are lost due to age, disease, or
storms, we're already planning for the generation of trees that will replace
them. Because the people who planted those
trees a century ago weren't really only planting them for themselves. They were
planting them for us. And I think we have an opportunity to do the same thing
for families that will live here 25 years from now, 50 years from now, and
100 years from now. I'd be happy to help organize residents, businesses, or
community partners. If the city would be willing to explore this, let's not just
replace what we've lost. Let's continue what they started. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments. Um, I don't know if you understand that with open
meeting law, we're not really able to respond to your comment, but staff has
learned the fact they do want to volunteer on something that's important.
So, you want to be careful. [laughter]
All right, with that, we're going to move on to the presentation section. The
first presentation is uh the employee of the quarter. We have
this is you know as I as I've said every every quarter I get to say is this this
is one of the most important things that we do as a council and as a city is to
recognize the employees that work for us and we do this through a program where
the employees not the managers but employees that work along with each
other nominate each other every quarter for who has been the most beneficial to
other staff or to residents and this quarter we are proud to announce that
state federally won the award. She's here to accept it.
We give that.
» We used to give employees a gift certificate, but now we give them the
best gift. We give them a day off. >> Thank you very much for your service.
Okay, next item is we have some new employees. I think uh this is Adams
Williams who is our HR director is going to introduce them to us. This interview
is given to us. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, members
of council. I'd like to introduce to you our new street superintendent, Ed Pedro.
It's going to save a few.
» Hello. Um, mayor, vice mayor, and uh, council council members. Um, I have to
be honest with you, this is the first time I've been in front of council and
mayor vice mayor before, so excuse me. Um, as Lisa said, I I'm at Padrome. Um,
I come to city of Litzfield Park from the city of Scottdale
um, where I served as the transportation and street operations manager. Um,
I have, excuse [clears throat] me, I have approximately 25 years as a public
servant. Um, 30 years in the pavement preservation and road construction uh
industry. Uh, and I'm just thankful to be a part of the team. Thankful to be
here part of a member of the city of Litzville Park.
» Thank you. >> Thank you.
» Welcome aboard. >> Thank you. Appreciate We appreciate
you're joining us. >> Yes, sir.
» Look forward to working with you on something that's very, very important to
our residents. >> Thank you.
» Thank you.
» Okay, next item. >> Next item we're going to cover is
recognition of the ovarian cancer uh month that is being uh that's being
recognized. CS I don't know if it's if it's the month
that we're in or the month. I guess it's the month that's coming up. September.
Is that correct? >> Okay. We have a representative from the
uh
ov she's an ovarian cancer survivor. Rachel second Putnham. She's with us
here by Zoom. uh she is here as an advocate for this
pro you know for this awareness and for uh resolving this disease and we're
going to give her a proclamation. here is the proclamation.
Whereas over where whereas ovarian cancer is the fifth leading cause of
cancer related death among women in the United States and the American Cancer
Society estimates that in 2026 approximately 21,010
women will be diagnosed with ovarian cancer and 12,450
will die from the disease nationwide including 510 new cases and 330 deaths
in Arizona. Whereas a woman's lifetime risk of being
diagnosed with ovarian cancer is about 1 in 91 and her lifetime risk of dying
from the disease, it's approximately 1 in 143.
Whereas due to vague non-specific symptoms and the absence of a reliable
early detection test, majority of women are diagnosed at stage three or later
when the cancer has already spread beyond her ovaries.
Whereas although the fifth year or the fiveyear survival rate for stage one
ovarian cancer exceeds 90%, only 15% of cases are diagnosed at this early stage.
For those diagnosed in later stages, the five-year survival rate drops to below
30%. Whereas, while screening tools such as
mammograms and PEP and PEP tests exist exist for breast and cervical cancers,
no equivalent screening tests exist for ovarian cancer, making awareness of
symptoms and risk factors essential for early intervention.
Whereas increased public education about ovarian cancer can help save lives by
promoting earlier diagnosis, supporting access to gyneological oncology care,
and encouraging research funding for better detection and treatment options.
Whereas during the month of September, the city of Litfield Park joins
survivors, families, healthcare professionals, adequacy advocacy
organizations, and all those committed to raising awareness
remembering lives lost and offering hope for a future with better outcomes and
ultimately a cure. Now therefore, I, Thomas Elsho, mayor of
the city of Isho Park, Arizona, do hereby proclaim September 2026,
as ovarian cancer awareness month and encourage all residents to participate
in awareness activities where teal and support and engage in conversations that
help save lives and support the thousands of families affected by this
devastating disease. Dated the 12th day of August, 2026.
So Stacy, congratulations for surviving. I got that link. Sorry. Rachel,
congratulations for Excuse me. U we appreciate that you came to us and asked
to recognize this month of awareness and we hope the best for you and for all
those who have ovarian cancer. >> I don't know if you have something you'd
like to say. If you do, you're welcome to do that.
» Thank you. I do. So, my name is Rachel Sacket Putman and
I'm here as a stage three ovarian cancer survivor, thor and advocate and a proud
Arizona resident for the past 20 years. Thank you, mayor, and the council
members of the city of Lichfield Park for recognizing September as ovarian
cancer awareness month and for continuing to support this effort year
after year. Arizona is where I built my adult life, my marriage, my career, and
my survivorship. So receiving this proclamation from the city of Lichfield
Park is so deeply meaningful. Ovarian cancer is one of the deadliest
cancers affecting women. Yet it remains one of the most underfunded and least
understood. Over 21,000 women in the US will be diagnosed this year and more
than 12,000 will lose their lives, which is about a 60% mortality rate. Most
women are diagnosed at advanced stages because symptoms are vague and there's
still no reliable early detection test. For many of us, that lack of awareness
is the difference between catching cancer early and fighting for our lives.
I was diagnosed at 38 with a rare subtype called low-grade cirrus ovarian
cancer, a chronic disease with no standard of care and an 85% recurrence
rate. Like many women, I lost my ability to have biological children. Dreams my
husband and I hadn't yet fulfilled. And this year, I've suffered some very deep
losses to this disease. Losses that weigh heavily and remind me why
awareness is so urgently needed. Every teal light, every social media message,
and every proclamation, including yours, helps someone recognize symptoms earlier
and brings a muchneeded awareness to this insiduous disease. It truly saves
lives and honors those women lost far too soon. Thank you for standing with
survivors, honoring the women we've lost, and helping to protect families
across the city of Lichfield Park and the great state of Arizona. Your
continued leadership makes a real and lasting difference. Together, we can
shine a light on this gravely overlooked disease and give hope to the women and
families who need it most.
» Thank you, Rachel. >> Thank you. and congratulations on the
reelection. >> Oh, well, thank you.
» You're welcome. >> Move forward in your mission.
» Thank you so much. >> This takes us to the next presentation.
This is the next one that I'm going to do in the order that I choose to do them
with today. And that is to recognize the
distinguished service David Lford. I was shocked when I heard that you had
retired as our prosecutor. I can't remember a time in which you were not
the city's prosecutor. In fact, I was asked by the city
manager, but >> one day, how many years has David been
our city, you know, city prosecutor? And I I tried to think back and I don't know
if it's because I'm older or you've been or if you've just been prosecutor for so
long. I couldn't remember literally a time when you were not the prosecutor.
I'm sure there must have been a time, but do you recall how many years you've
been prosecuting?
» Well, I have to excuse me. Uh, [clears throat] going back through that
the law firm and whatnot, we have a variety of associates coming through and
depending on their level of expertise, some of them were acting as assistant
prosecutor. other times when no one was available, it fell upon me to take care
of that mess. So, I don't know exactly. I I know if at least the last maybe
seven years it's it's been me, but going back, you know, there's different
different times. So, it's been a long time.
» It has been a long time and we we appreciate your service as prosecutor.
We have this plaque for you. We also have to recognize that in addition to
being our prosecutor, you have served on our planning and zoning and our design
board and so many other things in the city. So, thank you very much.
» Thank you. >> Thank you very much.
Final comment. been my privilege. Uh 11 in the city. I
first saw it. I was working for a restaurant in Londale. My boss had a
membership and as part of his membership, he had to
spend a certain amount of money every year. Well, he didn't he didn't know us,
but he just wanted to come out two days a week and play golf. So, right about
the week before Christmas every year, he'd round up the entire firm, take us
to lunch over at what is now Reds. That was the first time I ever saw the show.
I never heard of it. Didn't know anything about it. Then we went from
there and then eventually I ended up where I ended up.
But it is a very unique place. You don't find this anywhere else. Like I've been
here long time. I told my my wife and I moved here. I think we were trying to
add that up. I believe it was 29 years ago, but I wouldn't.
But seeing all the trees going down, you know, it's the problem we all face. You
have powdery trees. They're a beautiful tree when everything is going well, but
they don't do well if they're overload water and wind like you're seeing. And
then you have 50 year old trees, you know, like the one by ribbons there that
are down. It's really, it's just really unfortunate. But as we go forward,
everybody's in favor of keeping it green. So that would be that would be my
final comments. But thank you all. I appreciate the opportunity to serve.
Thank you very much for your service. >> I make a couple.
Yeah, a couple of comments. Uh Dave and I were law partners for more than 40
years and longer than as I mentioned at a chamber of commerce function one time
longer than any woman has put up with either one of us.
» And Dave has prosecuted or been responsible for prosecuting or
supervising prosecution since this city was incorporated. and
that's been a while ago. So, thank you.
» Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you.
» Okay, it's going to take take us now to the presentation by our city engineer
about
processes.
» Yes.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, before I hand the reigns over completely to Ed,
uh I'll leave on one last note with the presentation you're about to hear. Uh
collaborated with Ed on this presentation so we can get the
information right. Want to give a high level overview of pavement management
program treatments. uh
uh what is pavement management, types of failures, causes of failures, condition
evaluations, uh the applications that we do
throughout the city and and where we've done in other cities, uh appropriate
treatments for different type of failures and then costs.
So pain management and predation, it's programmative methods for collecting and
using storing data. uh want to create these different steps on what to do with
the data, historical data, new data, new technologies. Uh employ the maintenance,
preventive, maintenance, and minor rehabilitation treatments throughout the
year. And just keeping good roads in good condition because I'll show you in
a little bit that there's a chart that kind of summarizes it all. We want to
keep good roads in good condition and they aren't as expensive to rehab. And
typically what we do is low cost, low impact to the environment. But anybody
that's seen a road be reconstructed, that's uh that's the occasional uh
remediation that we have to do. And we did a little bit of that this year.
So this chart I've used in other presentations in my career. Um the white
line is, you know, if you just built a segment of road and just kind of left it
uh over a period of time, it's just going to degrade and go down again down
as time goes on. the turquoise and the pink line. Uh, every time we do a
pavement treatment that's relative to the type of condition that it has, bumps
it back up into a different category. Uh, the smaller jumps are things like
slurry and smaller treatments. Bigger jumps you see to the far right might be
a millon overlay or a heavier slurry type treatment. What our goal is is to
never cross the midpoint, which is the O line. When we get to that point, we have
to look at it at a different angle. That's where we start doing things like
taking the asphalt out or uh rejuvenating the top layer of the
asphalt with a new coat.
I don't have to go over this whole list. This is just the types of failures. I
mean, there's this list is probably twice as long as what I could fit on
this page. Um what we did is some common failures that we have here in the city,
uh especially in Arizona. Alligator cracking, block cracking like squares,
depressions which are ruts in the asphalt, joint reflection cracking,
longitudinal down the middle of the street. Um, I highlighted oxidation and
raveling. We'll go over that. Those are the most common types of uh degradations
that we see here in the city. Everybody knows what pothole is. They rear their
ugly heads all the time. Um, and then the transverse scratching. So, I added a
couple of pictures kind of put in perspective. raveling is when the top
coat top cream of the asphalt wears away the the aggregates and the binders
starts coming off the top. Um in reality what happens the first stage is the
oxidation. So we start losing the binder and it gets down you got a rough road
alligator cracking. So uh the picture on the right is actually Camelback Road. I
get a lot of questions on why is Calac Road uh have alligator cracking and then
alligator cracking in its basis of definition is a subgrade failure. So
anybody that's driven on Camelback Road, it does have a lot of lines, a lot of
cracks that we filled. Um and when I say we, I mean MCDOT because that was their
road. Um but it doesn't have failures. A really good sub race. So I added the
picture on the left. You can see that what's happening is water gets in there
uh changes in temperature and we start actually losing uh drivability and the
roughness starts really getting in the top corner of that picture is actually
asphalt starting to move. So once water gets into these positions in the asphalt
you start getting a lot of different kinds of failures that we'll go over
here. Uh took some pictures and some other
stuff I had in my archives various tracking. We see these throughout the
various cities. Block cracking. uh the result of uh tra it's it's mostly
traffic related whether it's too much traffic or not enough traffic. We're
always trying to find that midpoint on what is the road use when they first
design. What is the road going to be used for? We designed for that type of
traffic that whether it's heavy trucks, light trucks, cars down the local
streets. Uh but in block cracking, which is what we just saw, I just showed the
picture in countback. You know, heavy trucks, it was meant for trucks, but not
heavy trucks like we seeing all the time. uh that countback road has many
types of these feathers. Uh transverse cracking um mostly has to do with
temperature changes and we see a lot of that in our local streets. You see a lot
of it in Goodyear. Um what happens is it's a different changes in temperature
and uh asphalt's a flexible pavement design. So it it moves in chunks kind of
like a slowmoving iceberg. Uh when it does crack it moves and then it goes and
then it widens back when it gets hot again. and the crack either moves gets
bigger or it starts doing uh latinous shifts. Longitudinal cracking, we see a
lot of that uh down the middle of the road. So, you know, when they build a
street, they can only make the asphalt hopper what 12 ft max. So, it's about a
lane at a time. So, when they actually build any street, they kind of put two
seams together and then they roll and they try to do their best, but what
happens is a crack will show up. One of the reasons why we wanted to shut down
the roundabout a couple week and a half ago, almost two weeks now, was to try to
avoid this. So, when we sh when we got permission from council to close the
roundabout and put the entire surface course all in one lift, we didn't have
any what's called a cold joint. So, we don't have as big of a worry to ever see
any longitudinal transverse cracks in our surface course. So, we're going to
have a good product for a long time. And then of course uh potholes on the
right. Um you get a pin hole, small hole, it rains, uh the fines start
coming out, the rocks stay behind, it dries out, more traffic comes, kids
smell fines, then all of a sudden that pothole just starts growing and growing.
Um and then reflective cracking. Uh I just have a picture here that shows a
square, but it can be in any shape. What that usually is a result of is when you
put a bad subgrade down or a bad base course, you put a surface course over
the top of it and then over a period of time with that thermal expansion, the
crack show. Uh we actually had a problem on Florence, we mill overlaid it in 23,
great surface course, but one year later because we didn't go all the way down to
the bottom course um and take it out and put it back in, we have some reflective
cracking. So that'll have to be addressed in the next effort.
I mentioned this earlier, ringing and heaving. Um that's a picture that kind
of just puts in perspective on Camelback Road and areas a little bit further to
the east. Uh we don't really have huge ruting along our frontages or our chill
streets. Uh but what ring and heaving is caused from there. There's a lot of
reasons why it happens, but what I see is when it's a bad surface course, when
it's got a lot of oil, when it wasn't put down right, our temperatures get to
120 degrees, got heavy trucks going through here, and then it just creates
those tracks. Uh, a benefit to any arterials that have a pretty good mix of
passenger vehicles is they kind of iron it out. So that's why I believe Cambeck
Road doesn't have such a bad ruting problem is because we have a really good
mix of vehicles. But the reason that the ruting happen is because we have the
heavy trucks. And then depressions, those are usually localized. Um
sometimes we see a longer stretch is usually when there's like a sinkhole, a
void. If a contractor put the subgrade down and there was maybe a root ball or
some branches and they, you know, degrade and then the fines fall through,
he starts to have impressions. You see a lot of those in parking lots.
So general cause of failures big list uh biggest things I see uh weather you know
the biggest failure we have here in uh in the valley is the oxidizing and the
and the raveling and the weather is the first star that UV rays just degrade
that top layer of the binder. Um construction techniques sometimes fall
short. traffic volumes. I mentioned that before. We have a lot of truck traffic
on Cback Road. It really wasn't meant for that amount of volume of truck
traffic. Lots of other things. Uh age bind age of the binder. So after a
certain amount of time, even though asphalt is a flexible pavement, the
binder does become brittle. I mean, you can get 5, 10, 15 years. It depends on
the mix that went down and how it was put down. You always hope that when we
do asphalt, we get the tests done and we get the lab results and we make sure
it's a good um mix. So, up on the hilltop, we have Nesbbit and Hayden
doing a lot of testing of those asphalt base courses and surface courses, and
I'm checking them, checking them, checking them. We actually do have an
issue with one of the pieces of asphalt that we're working on right now with uh
Hayden in the parking lot. So, it would have high void content. Um, so we're
going to possibly see pavement fatigue a little sooner than we'd like. Um, the
answer to that is either have them fully take it out or we're going to put um
type two micro seal over the top of it. And then there was another section that
we were talking about that friction course was another alternative. So we're
going back at them to make sure that the asphalt is going to be in good shape.
» Okay. Um and then subgrade the var subgrade and asphalt the gradations of
thickness and design of the actual structural section. Those are engineered
pieces of an asphalt section. So from the ground up we make sure that that
it's qualified personnel doing those designs and they go through the proper
reviews and that they're applicable to what they're you don't want to put a
localized street section to replace a portion of cab.
Uh so payment condition evaluation not going to read everything. Uh you got PCI
index, you got automated distress surveys. Uh the pacer evaluation is a
smaller scale. It's 1 to 10. And then the PSI rating is 0 to five. So these
bottom two, the pacer PSI, I don't really do a lot of those. I don't know
if you've done any of those and Scott still. Um usually those are just kind of
a quick attack. That's how I kind of define it is because the scale is only 1
to 10 or 0 to five. Uh the PCI index is an evaluation from 0 to 100 and it is
developed over a long period of time. What you do is you you do an evaluation
of a street and you determine what kind of failure it is. And a lot of times
especially in older streets there's multiple types of failures. You have
transverse cracking, oxidation, ruting, rattling. So every time there is a
failure identified within the area you're looking at, you start subtracting
numbers from it. And so we start getting into uh numbers that are falling below
100 into the range if you remember the graph I showed you earlier. Um
and then the automated distress survey. So that's something Ed and I were
talking about. Um Ed did a lot of that in in Scottsdale. We're going to propose
to do that here in Lfield Park, but essentially it's having uh these
companies that specialize in uh pavement condition evaluations. It'd be good for
us to start with the streets department to have a good baseline of our street
conditions and having consultants that specify and doing that kind of work is a
very good approach to having that baseline number.
So PCI index the target is 75 70 to 85. I think that's a generally good range in
the valley. um we all kind of I say we the cities and when I was a consultant
always uh kind of determined what a good rating was and that's how a lot of
cities develop their program is to try to get their street sections into these
ranges and there's a direct dollar relation to that so that's why it has
such a big impact on um so it prior prioritizes street segments based on
whatever the funding is um and their rating and like I mentioned before
multiple different types of distresses as you start subtracting more numbers
off. Um, and then the fourth bullet is very important because the historical
data, I went back as part of doing this, I went back and looked at a lot of our
historical uh treatments and in the early 2000s, we actually did a lot of
chip seal. Um, it's not something I would have guessed that we would have
done in local streets in in a city because usually chip seal is something
you do in more of a rural area. I grew up in Jack Rabbit and Camelback and we
had dirt roads until the county came in and give us chips seal. thought it was
it was the greatest day in the world. Um, but we did a lot of chip seal around
here, so it makes a lot of sense on some of the fatigue and and stresses and and
failures that we're seeing on some of these local streets because uh we'll
start off with a smaller section and then when you go out there and actually
look at it, it's, you know, it's huge. It's because it's got all these
miniature layers of different kinds of asphalt uh rejuvenation and that can
contribute to failures too because it's not a homogeneous one single type of
material. and all the pieces are working against each other.
Just want to put it into perspective. I got another slide, but uh you can see a
nice shiny new road in the top left. Um you know, the PCI of 90 is not that bad.
You start seeing some little oxidation. Look at uh and sorry about the pictures
are a little light, but in in the middle left one, you can start seeing that
there's some raveling. Uh if you zoom in on the picture on the computer, I can
see there's a rocks. And then to the far right PCI 60, you're starting to get
some hairline cracks and some edge ruting. And then obviously in the bottom
two, you can really see those those uh cracks. And every year that we do some
sort of pavement replacement, we're having we have streets hovering in the
neighborhood of somewhere between a low number and up to 40.
Another picture with high high level. Um see the top left again, not shiny road.
Um, and then the bottom right, I think that was actually a parking lot. Um, so
pavement is a flexible material. It really predicates on if it gets used or
doesn't get used because parking lots, culde-sacs, streets that actually don't
get traffic, their PCI ratings do go down tremendously.
So, uh, wanted to just go over, you know, some applications. We got asphalt,
we got overlay, we got full depth, we've got uh patch repairs, trip seal or crack
seal. Uh a couple of pictures just to put in perspective for everybody. Crack
seal of course. Uh we did a lot of that this last round and as well as type two
micro seal. So anytime we do a seal of any kind, whether it's micro seal, a
PMM, or there's various other kind of seals, we're going to do a crack seal
first um moving forward. So primarily we do uh crack seal um almost every every
time you do micro seal you want to do crack seal. If you do micro seal and
don't do crack seal things start falling. I know we had a big effort
where we put a lot of PMM uh down which we have a picture from the right there
and we didn't do a lot of crack seal. Uh I know that that was a lot of feedback
got from the constituents and members of council. Um, so I went back and I was
talking to Ed and I just want to make sure I wasn't going crazy because uh, a
lot of times and a lot of cities don't put a a treatment down before PMM. Uh,
we do a lot of that. We did about half and half. So we did do a lot of streets
this year with just PMM. Uh, we also want to get it rejuvenated for the next
rounds, the next few years. So some of these streets where we put PMM down,
we're going to either do uh, some sort of overlay or a thicker coat like a
micros. So, we're kind of prepping the street for a future effort all while
rejuvenating the oxidiz oxidized street and the and the raveling. Want to keep
the the pedals down. The slurry seal fog coat's not a you
don't really want to do a lot of that. It doesn't give you many years. You see
a lot of fog coats on parking. It's a cheap quickie. It gets maybe two years
before that top coat starts oxidizing. Fog coat's not a big thing that you see
on the streets.
Everybody knows uh pothole and patching. Uh HTME HDMB
highdensity mineral bond. Um one of my favorite applications. I know Ed likes a
lot. We did that on the village uh before I was in here. Woody did that.
Previous city engineer did that HA5. Uh I got to tell you that stuff is still in
really good shape today. The downside to it is it's slippery. It's a really quick
way you lose friction. Um, I know the previous, uh, one of the previous public
works directors, I think, was riding a motorcycle during a rain and slipped
out. Came back and said, "We're never doing HA5 again."
» That's a story I heard. So, um, it's it's been off the radar for a little
while, but um, bang for the buck. It does cost a little bit. It's pretty
proprietary. I think Hullberg does that and a couple of people do it, so you
have to schedule with them and have them come in. But the amount of times I put
that stuff down and the way the streets look these days, that might be a really
good um investment option on some of these streets uh that we want to keep
that are good streets we want to keep in good condition because you can't put HA5
on anything that's lower than I think the 60 [snorts] or 70
on the rating. Like I said, chip seal um it's still
prevalent. Cape seal is the same thing as chip seal. Just put another layer of
asphalt by tumin uh tar on top. We won't be doing that around here, so
don't worry about that. Very loud. Asphalt overlay. Uh, for the most part,
we don't do a lot of asphalt overlay unless we mill first. So, uh, take one
and a half inch or more off and put the same thickness down. Um, I know that
when I did a lot of pavement management for the city of Glendel, they wanted to
take one inch off and put two inches back on. And so, uh, and and a lot of
streets for some reason. and we did some cores and you can see that that's just
their preference. Um they had some drainage issues and if we have drainage
issues in the same way we're going to have a crown street that's an option we
can look at without tearing the whole street out or just add on to it.
And then of course pool depth uh removal reconstruction we did that on a few
streets. We're going to do that on u another street coming up here at the end
of August.
Something that we don't see very lot just want to throw um uh up on here is
uh cold and place recycled asphalt and hot in place recycled asphalt. I don't
know Ed did you do a lot of that in Scottdale still? It's a it's it's a very
cost effective way to get large sections of street. So if we wanted to just
rejuvenate all of the park, all of Camelback or all of Wigwam in one shot,
what happens is that it's all one operation. The truck in the front um is
dropping off oil. The milling machine dumps it in there, mixes it. Um the
blade picture that you see, it's all based on rotations and how fast it goes
on how uh the aggregate is broken up. They inject the emulsion and it comes
out asphalt. So they're recycling the asphalt in place and they're rolling it.
So this asphalt that you see here just got, you know, chewed up up here. So
that is something to consider when we want to go after uh funds for doing
countback rope. And then FDR's full depth reclamation.
So this asphalt section here takes off the top coat. Full depth reclamation
gets all the way down to the asphalt and the sub rate. It actually mixes the AB
and the pulverized asphalt and makes it all new asphalt.
So just really quick wanted to go over a couple of uh
failures in their treatment. So raing oxidation want to do slurs pas micro
seals HMV mill and overlay when it's a bad enough situation. Uh when you have
real alligator cracking it's full depth replacement. So when we start looking at
asphalt and we give the PCI rating, we're going to give it a really low
score because that uh when the rock or when the chunks of asphalt start really
coming apart and rattling like that, there's no rejuvenate
various longitudinal cracks uh block transverse [snorts] reflective. We do a
lot of crack seal slurry pment. That's the majority of what we did this last
effort. Um, some situations where you have big cracks, which we saw in a few
locations, we have a mill and overlay that has to go down full depth and have
to bring in fresh asphalt.
Bottles again, tear the whole thing out. We did a 15 of them on Camelback Road a
couple months ago. um just had big holes after um a lot of use. And so we had a
contractor come out after we did the mill and overlay of diceart and they
filled 15 spots just cuz potholes just get worse. They don't get any better.
I did not do that presentation. So I'm just surprised. Edge cracking or edge
failure. That's actually a picture um from here in the city uh that was
rejuvenated in before I got here. Um, but the answer to that is you either
mill it all out or take the whole asphalt out. And the the culprit is
water infiltration. And the reason why I show that picture is because we do have
a very green city. You have a lot of situations where that does happen. So
these next couple years, we'll be looking at some of these edge failures
and trying to repair them. You see a lot of that up in the areas where um, you
know, Voeva, Acacia, all that area up there has uh quite a few of these
locations.
Similarly, uh with these type of fitters, full depth replacement, uh if
you do have a really good section on these rabbit hung and heaving areas, we
can't just shave them off. Um more often than not, you got to go deep. And that's
again another reference of what I think we're going to have to do for Camelback
Road when that time does come. I got to the last slide. Uh this is a
cost kind of uh evaluation of the last couple years I found went back to 2006.
So, I was very surprised at how close some of the unit prices came and
actually uh some of them uh haven't gone up very much and some has gone down. Now
the unit price of the first bullet here depends heavily on your square footage.
Um I can tell you in 2006 we didn't do a lot and in 2023 we did a decent amount.
Um 2026 we did more than all of those combined
lifespan of you know we got 15 to 20 years out of every do mill and overlay.
You can see that the unit price is more expensive. Uh it's worth it if you can
keep up with the rejuvenation. So like we did u my tainter and
» it's yeah we did that two three years ago and the next effort we're going to
put a PMM layer. So that's a brand new asphalt. There's no block track, no
cracks at all. We're going to rejuvenate it uh for a few dollars a square yard
and um that asphalt is going to be good for the next 25 years.
That's it. Uh, I hope everybody enjoyed my last speech until over to Ed. So,
there are any questions, concerns? >> Mr. Vice Mayor, did you say a couple of
our streets are double layer chip sealed?
» Multiple layers from what I can tell from looking at um old uh PMP reports,
» but they started out as as chip sealer. They I think they're rejuvenating the
chipset. I can't find a lot of information asphalt is. I do have some
pictures from the 60s. It's you know black asphalt's going down. I don't know
how thick it is or what kind of gradation, but there was a big push
actually in 2006 area where um crack seal was the rejuvenation level that
went down and I think it was more that cape seal where you put put
binder down, drop the rocks and another binder and most people wouldn't even
know that it is [snorts] a chip seal. Those watch
is the mill and overlay the one where they take the old one up and it's all
done in the one process. >> U council member the uh the mill and
overlay. So there's the milling overlay mill in place. The milling overlay
they'll take off about one and a half inches and then put one and a half
inches back up. The cold in place recycling is when they take it all out,
mix it and then inject the hot or the cold asphalt and then put it back down
right behind it. Where does that fall costwise in this?
» We have never um done that. So um I have done it before and the the costs are
comparable to the mill and overlay >> and is it is it something that can be
driven on eight hours later or? >> Yep. It's it's just like cod asphalt. Um
we're about to do Cascada um and they'll have an overnight closure, but in all
reality once they put it down and the temperature goes down to below what does
it have to be? 160 170 I think once once it's below that temperature you can open
it traffic. So when the cold in place recycling if we do that on camelback
road it'll actually go pretty quick because it's not a hot injection of of
bumment. It's the hot in place um that they have it really heated up and they
have a fire going and they they really cook it when they put it down.
» And last question several years ago um ADOT rubberized the freeway. member I 10
getting rubberized. What is that process and is that something we should consider
maybe for Camelback Road? >> Council member, uh that is definitely
always an option. Um there's been a lot of and and ADOT only went rubberized
forever. Whenever I did a fairway design, you had to put that on. The last
couple years before I came here, it was always uh we want to do a high traffic
super paved regular asphalt like/ inch or 38 inch. The the reason why is
because you're going to get you're it's going to cost a little bit more uh to
put it down. The problem with ARA CFC and the rubberized asphalt is there's no
rejuvenation. So once the you can't just slurry it. So in two to five years when
the asphalt wears and and the sun oxidizes it and you get all the stuff in
your gutters, you'll have like the top of a Rice Krispie treat is how I like to
tell everybody. And then it's a little rough. And so I think that's actually
what they had on Camelback Road and um it's kind of got the remnants of it. The
only you can do is mill it out and put new asphalt down. A lot of the reason
why we do AR the rubberized asphalt is for noise and the new 3/4 inch and half
inch mixes. U there's evac mixes, there's city of Phoenix mixes, and
there's mag mixes. There's lots of other mixes. Um but the new mixes now have
decal levels that are very comparable to rubberized asphalt and they can be
rejuvenated. >> Well, thank you. Um Ed, first of all,
welcome to the city. I'm so glad that you joined us. We I think are in need of
a street superintendent. So glad to welcome you to the team. Um Keith, as
far as the um pavement management plan and the pavement condition evaluation,
can you take us through how on an annual basis this looks to make sure that all
of our treat our streets receive treatments every 5 to 10 years? What
what can our residents expect every year from us?
» Well, thank you, Council Member Allen. Um so in the past, what we do is uh
glamorizing it by calling the windshield inspection, but I actually get out of
the truck when I look at the streets. Um, so there is an actual physical
evaluation at each street. Um, when a street has a section that might all be
the same type of failure. If you have to do a lot of crack seal, you isolate it
by, you know, a 40 or 50 foot section by the width and you evaluate that street
and then you can choose to do more or less. Um, so we do that on every single
street section. And when I say each street section, it's between each block.
So where if you have all of uh you know WigWall, it's going to be uh
Lichfield to Wigw to to desert, desert to old Lfield all the way down. And we
do that with every street. So we do an actual evaluation. We do uh an
evaluation of the historical information uh whether it got slurry sealed or micro
sealed. And that that plays into the PCI index. We give it a numerical
evaluation. Um, and there's a small equation that you can do, uh, depending
if there's multiple failures. So, what we do with that information each year is
we we have obviously what it's graded, whether the street's got a 60 or a 40 or
an 80 or 90. If it has high numbers, it's dep prioritized compared to the
lower number ones. If we have a large number of say 40 or under, like we we
actually do have a few of those streets, we can either elect to only do removal
and replacement of that piece of of those pieces of asphalt and not do any
slurry seal or crack seal or micro sealer or PMM or we break it up like we
did this last year. So we break it up and we do a complete removal and
replacement of one street for whatever the cost of and then we can get another
100 street sections done with a combination of slurry or micro seal
crack. So there is a detailed evaluation on how we can manage the funding because
we can either do all of one kind and catch up in that way over a period of
time or we can give a little attention to each street and raise the numbers
over a slower period of time and then have a good baseline which is what it
has been that's been the approach for the last from what I can tell and my
predecessor that was his approach and we carry that on. Uh that is a discussion
that Ed and I had is what is our future approach and I did mention that I think
what our attack is going to be is we want to come up with the baseline
evaluation for each street starting day one and that's where we're going to have
the streets super who has done a lot of that stuff millions and millions of
miles I hear. So we're going to we're going to take the historical information
but we're just going to use that as a reference in our new baseline. Once we
have the baseline of all the streets we're going to prioritize based on the
available funding. And I've had discussions with the city manager, you
know, I think this year we have a million dollars. I think we have 600,000
in her and we have 400,000 in uh capital contingency or general fund. So for a
million dollars you can either do 150 slurry sections or you can do a
couple of RNRs and you know maybe 40 or 50 slurry and PMS. So what we're going
to do is see where we're at in the baseline and how that needs to apply to
all the street sections. So we are going to go through a detailed analysis. I
don't have the exact breakup right now because we just got done through the
whole effort. We spent 1 four million three.
» Um and I think we got 140 street sections. So which is one of the biggest
pushes we've had in a long time. So we have a really good baseline now of
historical information that we can springboard off of.
» Questions. First, thank you for putting this
together. A lot of hate. I feel like I just sat in it on school class. There's
a reason I'm a dumb mover and not an engineer. Uh
love seeing that we we got a plane going forward and that we got Ed on board to
to help you manage this and have it go forward. I'm really excited to see how
we can take it um and elevate everything that we're doing. We've talked about
that for a long time. I'd love to see us take the opportunity to project three,
five, 10 years and be able to budget so that we if we see that we're having
failures in areas that we can ask for budget in advance so that we can plan
for it and not be reactive to things that are not getting done or that got
skipped and and have different issues. So Ed Hson, I would love for you to ask
you to as you're evaluating uh with Keith what we're doing to to look
forward and to see, okay, this is good for now, but in three years, we need
this in this space so we can get city leadership to be able to give us real uh
budget numbers to plan for so we can get these roads where they need to be and
not have to wait a full 10 year cycle to get everything that's there. But Keith,
thank you for this. I know it's been a hard push this last little bit and
appreciate the other concert. Always fun. I love playing an
» All right. Thank you for your presentation.
» Thank you. >> Appreciate everybody.
» All right. That takes us to our next item,
the presentation set which is a presentation
Peterson as the 2026 gofo
a I guess government financial officer a >> finance excellence award which I think
is going to be presented by the city manager.
» Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um, mayor and council, we want to take this time to
recognize Paige that she has received this award. So, annually there are 20
nominations for this award and there are two that are selected and she was one of
the two for this year. Um, to me, one of the biggest honors for Paige for this,
she doesn't mind me saying this, is that who this nomination came from and that
it came from her own employees. And that says something for her for what they
think of her and her work relationship with her. And as you guys know, it's
been said in many council meetings. Paige does a great job as assistant city
manager, but also as finance director. Paige keeps us keeps our numbers where
they need to be and lets us know when they're not where they need to be. And
she does a fantastic job. Makes my life a whole lot easier. And I think she she
very much deserve this deserves this award. And I think she'd like to have
things to say, too. But congratulations to Pa. You certainly earned it.
I just want to say thank you to Maria and Lisa and Monica. They were the three
that submitted the nomination. I was very touched by it. Very surprised when
I opened the email that I got the award. I thought they were talking about the
annual one we get every year and I was like, "Oh, I guess they're going to give
me the button at the lunchon rather than mail it to me." So, thank you ladies and
thank thank you Matthew for your support and mayor and council as well.
» Well, congratulations. We we appreciate all the hard work you put in on our
keeping our financial statements accurate and all the modeling you do for
us and help us helping us at making decisions long term. So, thank you. And
it's great that you were recognized for your work by others. Thanks.
» Thank you. Every time we think
she can't get any better, she gets better.
» There's no place left to go. She >> she rises.
» All right, that takes us to our report section. All the reports are in the
packet. If you have questions about them, please direct those functions of
I don't think there are any that we need updates on specifically. Then we're
going to go to the consent agenda item 8A approved
eight. Is there an item on consent that council memb
» a anything else? Is there a motion to adopt consent
agenda items 8 B through H. So move second.
» Second. >> All those in favor please say I.
» I. Any opposed? Items B8 are adopted. Sent item A. Vice
Mayor, you have a question you would like to discuss.
» Uh, yes. The minutes of the meeting June 17th where we adopted the final budget.
Says a motion was made by none and I seconded it. You
» did a good job. [laughter] >> It's our it's our budget. So probably
probably ought to get that fixed and made correct. I think that's on page 94
and then on 98 uh which is the same meeting June 17th
meeting um fiscal year salary range schedule and position roster mover or
none seconded
what's that word >> second
council member Braard Watson so probably ought to find who made that motion stick
it in there also >> correct
break >> or approve as amended.
» I'm sorry. >> Approve as amended. So bring a motion to
bring back the
we
» just this the June 17 minutes, right? the rest of them.
» Page 94 and 98 of our packet. June 17th
» uh special meeting June 17th regular meeting
» approve the rest.
» So we could approve if we wish the >> July 9th special meeting. So we can
approve July June 3rd and then July 9 27 30 26 special meetings. So we need a
motion to approve items on on item 8A. We're going to approve items uh June 3rd
26 work study session minutes July 9th 27th and 30th special meeting
minutes and refer the June 17th special and
regular meeting minutes back to the city clerk for for corrections. Is there a
motion for that? >> Any further discussion? All those in
favor please say I. I >> all right it
that takes care of our business section. We do not need an executive session.
» No sir, Mr. Mayor.
» We Sorry, sir. We do need a short executive session.
» I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry, sir. We do need a short
executive session. >> You need to speak more quickly.
» Yes, I'll try. >> Maybe slower with the gaffles
for get out of here before 8:30. Okay. Okay, then we're going to bring the
meeting back to order so we can weigh ourselves in executive session. Motion
move which under which item executive session A or B?
» AB or B, sir? >> B. So, is there a motion to go in
executive session? Item 10 E. >> Have a second.
» All those clear say I. Any opposed? All right, we're going to
executive session.