[0:00] Well, it's not
>> breaking the city council to order. If
[0:05] you please join us in the pledge of
allegiance led by Councilman Blair.
[0:11] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:16] republic for which it stands, one
nation,
[0:20] indivisible, liberty and justice for
all.
[0:28] All righty.
[0:32] We get started with help from the port.
[0:37] You have like to say this even.
>> Thank you, mayor. I just wanted to share
[0:42] that I was able to part uh participate
at the library ribbon cutting and that
[0:49] was a very special moment. Um it felt
like such a community in there. I know
[0:55] that there are probably some other
council members that felt the same way.
[0:58] And I just wanted to share some kind of
specific feedback that I got. I have a
[1:04] friend who has a um seventh grader, her
son who is autistic, and she said that
[1:12] it was very meaningful to her that she
could use the um family restroom at the
[1:18] new library. And that was something that
I I just wanted to share that that that
[1:23] might not have been something that we,
you know, I I just want to give kudos to
[1:29] the planner who put that in there
because I think it was definitely
[1:32] something that added a lot of value for
the community. Thank you.
[1:37] » Thank you, Council Fraser.
>> Um it's been a while, but uh
[1:42] congratulations to the city for the
third of July event. Uh it was another
[1:45] fantastic year. So, building on the
success of the first year, uh I know my
[1:49] family appreciated it and I think a lot
of families, a lot of people in
[1:52] Lichfield and from the surrounding area
appreciate it. So, thank you. Um you
[1:56] know, thank you to staff. Uh you had a
very tight timeline with the the library
[2:02] and all the improvements that were
required. Um I know how hard that is to
[2:06] pull all that together. So, you did a
great job. Uh so, thank you, you know,
[2:11] for getting that done on behalf of the
city. Um, and I want to, you know,
[2:15] certainly recognize, uh, Aendale PD for
their professionalism. There's been some
[2:20] incidents, you know, this summer, uh,
including one recently. Uh, they're a
[2:25] very professional organization. I'm very
proud that we have them in our city. Um,
[2:30] I'm very proud to have them on a lighter
note out at Lichfield Elementary School.
[2:35] So, they're out there every morning. Um,
I'm one of the many parents that
[2:38] participate in that chaos of dropping
their kids off. Um, and having Aendale
[2:42] PD out there, especially at the
beginning of the year, uh, helping
[2:46] direct traffic and and help us parents
figure out what to do because we forgot
[2:49] over the summer, is is a great help. Um,
and they're certainly appreciated.
[2:55] » Thank you, Councilman James. No report.
>> Brandon Watson,
[3:00] » I have a good report as well. Um, I also
attended the uh grand opening. I c came
[3:07] at that with a very different
perspective because that corner means a
[3:10] lot to our family. And so seeing seeing
it go full circle, for those of you who
[3:16] don't know, I grew up on the corner
where CVS is now. That entire property
[3:20] was where our house and my dad's farm
and everything that was important to him
[3:26] was. And uh change wasn't always easy.
you know, the road came in, cut us off
[3:32] from the park, destroyed the lifestyle
that we loved so much. But in the end,
[3:39] uh, the change has been positive, and to
be in the library and see all of the
[3:43] historical nods, the chandelier,
um, the mural, which I'd like to give
[3:50] kudos to Catitude Arts. I was one of the
people who was kind of uh questioning
[3:56] whether or not they were going to
actually follow through or not, but they
[3:59] did a great job and it has a lot of the
historical elements of the park that are
[4:03] so important. So, um and then seeing the
high school is marvelous. I have a son
[4:10] who would have benefited from it and I
know that looking down into the future,
[4:13] we will have generations of kids who are
going to finally find where they belong
[4:18] and their people before they get out of
high school. So that's really really
[4:23] cool. Um I also attended the 3rd of July
event. I went listening. I like to go to
[4:30] those things and eaves drop. Um it's
getting harder to do is my hearing is
[4:34] better than my listening or my listening
is better than my hearing. But I didn't
[4:39] hear single negative from anybody.
Usually there's someone who's belly
[4:43] aching. It was great. Um we attended the
Coast Guard flag raising a week or so
[4:49] ago. Suzanne was there. Um, marvelous
job with that. Went off flawlessly. It's
[4:56] amazing to think that we have retired
Coast Guard members here who are willing
[5:01] to come and give their time for their
country. And all of the guys were
[5:05] retired. You could tell by their age.
Um, and we don't have a Coast Guard
[5:10] facility really close to us here. Wonder
why. Um, but it was really good. Really
[5:16] good. I also um got the opportunity to
attend a lunchon with Mayor show for the
[5:22] Southwest Valley Chamber of Commerce and
that was very nice. Well done.
[5:27] Um
I had so much I wanted to say. So I
[5:32] wanted to take this moment to publicly
congratulate our new members to the
[5:36] council and to welcome them. Um by now
everybody knows the results and I'm
[5:41] perfectly fine the result as it is. I'm
ecstatic that the mayor and vice mayor
[5:46] were both reelected.
Um, and um, everybody has a time and
[5:51] place and mine has been wonderful. I've
appreciated everything I've done with
[5:56] this city and all of the work you all
do. So, that's my report.
[6:01] » Thank you,
Counc.
[6:05] » I um was at the ground or the ribbon
cutting as well and what a great
[6:10] experience the library. I mean, just a
step forward for the city and and the
[6:14] the hilltop school to to look at the
faces as we were sitting there and the
[6:18] balloon drop and it it was pretty
special to be able to see that, you
[6:22] know, how many people were able to
affect through time and just to watch
[6:25] the kids in those faces. They wouldn't
have been able to to get that experience
[6:29] or or have the ability of growing that
way. Um, something I definitely want to
[6:34] talk about right now though is Yosha,
you did a great job run of the run of
[6:37] the show putting everything together,
make sure we were where we needed to be.
[6:41] that was so appreciated. I also want to
thank all the staff with these storms
[6:46] that we've been dealing with this last
week. Um, everybody mobilized, everybody
[6:50] got engaged. Matthew and I were out
pulling trees out of roads at 11:00 at
[6:54] night. Um, it was just good to see the
community come together, everybody
[6:59] working, the public works team coming
in, WCA, and the amount of work they've
[7:03] done in just three days. I mean, kudos
to everybody for making that come
[7:06] together. It was great effort to to try
and get the city back together as much
[7:10] as possible with as much as we've lost.
[7:15] » Thank you, Councilman. Mr. Vice Mayor,
>> uh, thank you, mayor. I got a couple of
[7:20] things to add to what everybody else has
said. Um,
[7:24] the election is over, thank goodness.
Uh, it was done in the primary. We don't
[7:29] have to go to the general, so we are
done hopefully seeing signs for a while.
[7:35] uh elections at the county level, the
state level,
[7:39] uh the federal level can be
difficult, for lack of a better word, at
[7:46] times. Uh our elections in Lichfield
Park were very cordial, uh very
[7:52] professional, and I want to thank
everybody who's involved in the entire
[7:55] process. Um, it's what makes our town
special, uh, to be able to go through
[8:02] this kind of process to get together
afterwards with our friends, with our
[8:08] neighbors, uh, and and move forward. So,
thank you everyone uh, for what you did
[8:14] uh, in the election. Uh, special
congratulations to Sarah Pearson, uh,
[8:20] who is a top getter, uh, Cody Conklin,
the mayor, and myself. We're all going
[8:28] to be around starting next year.
I was first appointed on the council in
[8:34] 2004.
I ran for reelection five times. Um,
[8:40] every time I ran an election, I received
the highest votes. And suddenly I got
[8:44] beat by by 12 votes by Sarah who who
worked it hard and I congratulate her
[8:50] for that. Uh I I didn't do a lot. I
decided to run solely on my record. Uh I
[8:56] put up some signs, couple of Facebook
posts and that was pretty much it. And
[9:02] the signs were old signs from old
elections. So I didn't spend a penny. Um
[9:08] figured if my record didn't stand, then
so be it. it could be a win-win for both
[9:13] of us.
Um,
[9:18] I I view the results of the election uh
because there were there were
[9:23] significant
differences
[9:27] in the structuring of votes and and I I
view it as a reaffirmation
[9:34] uh that the mayor and I
have proceeded down a path for many many
[9:41] years uh that the citizens
appreciate and wish us to continue in
[9:47] that that that same direction. Um, yeah,
I think we've done a good job. Uh,
[9:54] [sighs]
it's always hard to to tell to see the
[9:58] future. Hindsight's always 2020. Uh, but
u, I think as things have come together,
[10:04] it it's worked out. It's very important
to us to preserve our small town
[10:12] atmosphere and do it in the face of
development pressures that are around us
[10:18] and within our city. And I think we've
been able to to handle that well. And I
[10:24] look forward to four more years, my last
four years as a council member and the
[10:30] mayor's last four years as a mayor
because we are term limited. uh as the
[10:35] new charter. Uh but we've uh we had some
work to do in those four years and then
[10:42] you know pass pass the wand.
Uh different subject
[10:50] city has been in the news the last u
week or two
[10:56] uh from a very sad family situation.
I I want to reaffirm to
[11:05] all of our citizens that Lichfield Park
is a very safe community to live in.
[11:12] The council reviews the police and the
fire reports every month. We have an
[11:18] excellent police department. Our police
chief lives in Lichville Park. We have
[11:23] an excellent fire department. Our deputy
chief lives in Lichville Park. The
[11:29] services that we get are
excellent.
[11:34] Uh
we've increased our spending on public
[11:38] safety in the last
when did we hire fire department? 10
[11:43] years ago, 15 years ago, 15 probably
>> 15 years ago. uh we've we've
[11:48] concentrated on on the safety of this
community and everything that we do
[11:54] includes an analysis of
how is that going to affect our
[11:59] citizens? Is it going to affect safety?
Is it going to increase safety? That's
[12:03] in all of our minds every time we we
look at any issue that comes.
[12:08] Uh all of my children live here. All of
my grandchildren live in this city. Uh
[12:13] the safety is
very very important to me.
[12:20] Unfortunately, we've had a couple of
high-profile cases and and they've
[12:24] happened
within families and within their homes
[12:30] where our public safety experts really
can react only after the fact. Uh our
[12:38] our hearts go out to those families.
Uh fortunately though, our streets are
[12:44] safe, our parks are safe, our city is is
is one of the safest places in this
[12:49] state uh to reside.
[12:55] Please also remember
that this increase in safety that we
[13:00] provide, it really only happens within
our our city boundaries. It's a
[13:05] difficult situation
u because we have an 85340
[13:11] zip code that includes an area that is
dozens and dozens and dozens of times
[13:19] bigger than than this city is. Uh but
they all have the same the same address.
[13:24] But those areas outside the city
boundaries
[13:28] do not get this increased level of
services that that we provide. And
[13:32] that's one of the reasons why we are so
safe because of that increased level of
[13:36] services.
[13:39] [clears throat]
[13:42] Finally, I'd like to ask staff, and I've
mentioned this to Matthew before.
[13:48] I think it's important to our city that
we have signage markers that show where
[13:53] our boundaries actually are. Um, our
staff gets calls all the time saying,
[13:58] "Hey, I live in Lichfield." And you got
to tell them, "No, you don't." and they
[14:02] say, "Yes, I do. My broker told me." And
you're going to tell them, "No, they
[14:06] don't." And there's kind of push and
pull and back and forth and some
[14:10] problems with the staff. Uh, I think it
would be valuable to our citizens,
[14:14] valuable to us to for know where the
boundaries are. Uh, and I'm not asking
[14:19] for some expensive monument, big great
thing. All I'm asking for is one or two
[14:25] poles in the ground that a sign that
says welcome to Lville Park, you know,
[14:29] and maybe on the back of it says leaving
Lynchville Park, you know, the city of
[14:34] Lichfield Park. Uh so we can we can
differentiate.
[14:38] Uh I'd like to see maybe staff think
about that, maybe figure out if that's
[14:42] going to be a big expense, if it's
possible to do. Thank you.
[14:48] » Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Uh just a
couple of comments.
[14:52] Everybody mentioned about the library
and the school. Those are really
[14:56] important events for the uh for the city
and for the southwest island. Uh for
[15:01] myself, it has been more than a decade
that was spent working on the hilltop
[15:04] and trying to figure out how how can the
hilltop become a sustainable asset for
[15:09] the city and the residents and for the
southwest island in the way that it used
[15:13] to be. uh given the fact that
maintaining it is such a huge expense
[15:18] that literally when we first received it
as a gift if we had done a good job
[15:23] maintaining it that's all we could have
done as a city period. uh it is it was a
[15:29] tremendous it's a tremendous asset but
it carried tremendous responsibilities
[15:34] and I I am very excited that the library
and the school and the theater
[15:40] museum are coming the band stand re
rehab project is coming
[15:46] we're going to have a beautiful asset
you can see it actually coming you know
[15:51] coming to life and that's that's
wonderful uh the library already is busy
[15:56] which is really I was concerned, you
know, how many people would actually
[15:59] come to this brand new library. Uh, but
it's busy and that's exactly what we
[16:03] want to see. Uh, the opening of the
school was tremendous. The kids that are
[16:07] in there are they look like really good
kids. Uh, they are excited about their
[16:12] new programming, things that they're
going to be able to learn. So, it's it's
[16:16] nothing but a win-win for our for our
our community. On a sad note, the uh one
[16:24] of the things that was special about the
the library was being able to see it
[16:29] dedicated to the memory of Max Wilson.
Max was tremendously important to the
[16:34] entire Southwest Valley, to the whole
West Valley really. He was probably was
[16:38] probably the first major developer other
than maybe John Fong that actually
[16:43] developed communities out here and got
life on the West Valley started. uh he
[16:48] he put a lot into our community. So the
the library actually was a very
[16:52] important it was a very important
project for him once he became
[16:57] supervisor. Uh but it was really sad
because his family was not able to
[17:02] participate in the opening because uh
Max's wife Judith literally died a
[17:08] couple days before the opening ceremony.
Uh so as a family they were not able to
[17:13] participate and I'm sorry for that. We
we are going to have the whole family at
[17:17] some point come over to the library and
and show them the plaque and talk to
[17:22] them about about how important the
family has been to the to the park. Uh
[17:27] but I only wanted to mention it as it
was it was the one thing that was sad
[17:31] about that day of dedicating the library
or opening the library.
[17:36] Uh the other thing I wanted to say
mention is that the staff really is to
[17:40] be commended for getting the library and
and working with the Alma Pria school
[17:45] district to get the school done on time.
When when we agreed with Al Pria that
[17:51] have this open by August the 3rd I think
it was I wasn't convinced 100% that we
[17:59] would make it happen but the staff
worked very very hard on it and did a
[18:04] tremendous job. uh they're trying to
coordinate just to coordinate uh all
[18:10] these different governmental unit units
together all the different contractors
[18:15] all the different engineering firms. Uh
it it's tremendous that it was that it
[18:20] was pulled off and I'm and I'm proud to
say that that for the library the
[18:24] library came in on on budget and on time
which is very unusual for government
[18:28] projects. So thank you to the staff.
Um,
[18:33] also I want to welcome for those of you
who got met, my son Matthew is here.
[18:37] He's from Chicago and he just, you know,
couldn't wait to come and see a council
[18:40] meeting. Can't understand why. I hope he
enjoys this. With that, we'll go to the
[18:47] city manager report. If anyone has
questions for the city manager, you have
[18:51] his report in your packet.
>> Mr. Mayor, a couple quick comments if
[18:55] you don't mind.
>> Um, as the mayor said, the report is in
[18:58] your pocket in your packet. Questions
you may have. Um, a lot of things that I
[19:01] was going to say have been said. It's
been a very very busy few weeks in in
[19:05] the city. Some some good and some bad.
Um,
[19:10] so many things to say about staff and
all the work that in the library. I was
[19:12] there for the the discussions, the
debates, the stops in the hallways.
[19:16] Well, what about this? Why don't we try
that? Will this work? So many pieces and
[19:20] thoughts and just giving of ourselves
that we're in this project where it was.
[19:24] And for me, that means a lot to me. And
and it was fun. For me, it was. and I
[19:28] hope the staff that was involved think
so too and we'll talk about that more
[19:31] later this year. Um, I would also like
to thank the council for having the
[19:34] courage to move forward with the library
project. Those of you that were here, it
[19:38] was it was a it was contentious at
times, but you had the courage to move
[19:43] ahead and do what you thought and what I
think was best for the city. And that
[19:46] takes courage to do that. It really
does. And for me that we we pulled it
[19:50] off. We got done and it opened on time.
You may remember when we during the
[19:54] presentation when I said the library
would open August of this year. The
[19:58] audience actually laughed,
but it happened. The school opened, the
[20:03] roundabout open. The library opened and
it's again, it's just been a fun ride.
[20:07] Thank you so much for council and staff
for every thing that went into that.
[20:10] » I think that's when Ry's eyes started
twitching.
[20:14] » They still were. [laughter]
[20:17] And and again, everyone did a great job
and thank you so much for all the work
[20:20] that went into that. And again for the
last week with everything that went on
[20:23] in the community with law enforcement
with a tragedy that happened.
[20:28] I I don't know what else to say but our
prayers for the family and thank you for
[20:32] the job that police did.
Also this weekend this week with the
[20:36] storms it's already been said council
cla thank you. I can honestly say I've
[20:39] never ran logging chains with a council
member before. We were out there pulling
[20:42] trees of the road at midnight and hope
he had as much fun as I did.
[20:45] » Yeah. So, and thank you to public
grounds for all their work in uh WCA and
[20:50] for Bright View as well. It's been a
very busy week for staff getting roads
[20:54] cleared, getting yards cleared and I
really think when you see the damage,
[20:57] when you see the trees, the cars that no
one was hurt. It really is amazing and
[21:03] certainly thank one comment I would also
say is that you may have noticed that
[21:07] our city attorney has changed his
appearance for tonight.
[21:10] So, Joe couldn't be with us because of
course this is an offite council
[21:13] meeting. So Michelle Stinson is here
with us and we're glad to have her.
[21:17] She's an attorney also with Pierce
Coleman and normally represents the city
[21:20] of Youngtown
>> and thank you for being here with us
[21:23] tonight.
>> Thank you. I appreciate the warm
[21:24] welcome.
>> Thank you, mayor and council.
[21:27] » All right. Any other questions? The city
manager, get them to him directly. This
[21:33] takes us to the call the community. We
have one request to speak. This is an
[21:37] opportunity for for for citizens to
speak to the council on an agenda item.
[21:42] Uh we have a request to speak from LA.
[21:49] » Voting measures.
[21:53] » Thank you. Thanks, Mayor and Council.
Thanks for all that you do, all of you.
[21:57] I know some of you personally, and I'm
just thankful for our community. Um so,
[22:02] my name is Kelly Troy Orbone, and I'm a
resident here, and I live on Oro Vista.
[22:07] Like so many people in our community, I
was heartbroken seeing the trees that we
[22:11] lost this week.
And it made me think about something
[22:14] bigger than simply cleaning up after a
storm at midnight.
[22:18] What do we want Lichfield Park to look
like 25, 50, or even 100 years from now?
[22:25] One of the thing that things that makes
our community so special is our trees.
[22:29] When you drive down old Lichfield, when
you walk past Turtle Park, when you walk
[22:34] past the former library, the wigwam, and
throughout our neighborhoods, you
[22:38] immediately know you're in Lichfield
Park. And that didn't happen
[22:42] accidentally. More than 100 years ago,
when Paul Lichfield and architect LG
[22:48] Knight were planning this community,
landscaping was a big part of that
[22:52] vision. Those trees became part of the
identity of Lichfield Park. So rather
[22:58] than simply mourning the trees we've
lost, which I have cried walking around
[23:01] the park and seeing that, um, I'd love
for us to use this moment as an
[23:07] opportunity. Could we create a Lichfield
Park legacy tree initiative? Maybe this
[23:13] becomes a partnership between the city,
residents, businesses, civic
[23:18] organizations, and our historical
society. People could sponsor trees.
[23:23] Families could plant trees in memory of
or in honor of someone. Businesses could
[23:29] help fund them. We could identify
historically appropriate trees and
[23:34] locations with the help of arborists and
the city. And perhaps we establish a
[23:40] long-term goal that whenever significant
trees are lost due to age, disease, or
[23:45] storms, we're already planning for the
generation of trees that will replace
[23:49] them.
Because the people who planted those
[23:53] trees a century ago weren't really only
planting them for themselves. They were
[23:58] planting them for us. And I think we
have an opportunity to do the same thing
[24:03] for families that will live here 25
years from now, 50 years from now, and
[24:07] 100 years from now. I'd be happy to help
organize residents, businesses, or
[24:14] community partners. If the city would be
willing to explore this, let's not just
[24:19] replace what we've lost. Let's continue
what they started. Thank you.
[24:26] Thank you for your comments. Um, I don't
know if you understand that with open
[24:31] meeting law, we're not really able to
respond to your comment, but staff has
[24:35] learned the fact they do want to
volunteer on something that's important.
[24:38] So, you want to be careful.
[laughter]
[24:42] All right, with that, we're going to
move on to the presentation section. The
[24:46] first presentation is
uh the employee of the quarter. We have
[24:52] this is you know as I as I've said every
every quarter I get to say is this this
[24:57] is one of the most important things that
we do as a council and as a city is to
[25:01] recognize the employees that work for us
and we do this through a program where
[25:06] the employees not the managers but
employees that work along with each
[25:09] other nominate each other every quarter
for who has been the most beneficial to
[25:14] other staff or to residents and this
quarter we are proud to announce that
[25:20] state federally
won the award. She's here to accept it.
[25:25] We give that.
[25:34] » We used to give employees a gift
certificate, but now we give them the
[25:38] best gift. We give them a day off.
>> Thank you very much for your service.
[25:50] Okay, next item is we have some new
employees. I think uh this is Adams
[25:58] Williams who is our HR director is going
to introduce them to us. This interview
[26:04] is given to us.
>> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, members
[26:09] of council. I'd like to introduce to you
our new street superintendent, Ed Pedro.
[26:14] It's going to save a few.
[26:18] » Hello. Um, mayor, vice mayor, and uh,
council council members. Um, I have to
[26:24] be honest with you, this is the first
time I've been in front of council and
[26:27] mayor vice mayor before, so excuse me.
Um, as Lisa said, I I'm at Padrome. Um,
[26:34] I come to city of Litzfield Park from
the city of Scottdale
[26:39] um, where I served as the transportation
and street operations manager. Um,
[26:45] I have, excuse [clears throat] me, I
have approximately 25 years as a public
[26:49] servant. Um, 30 years in the pavement
preservation and road construction uh
[26:58] industry. Uh, and I'm just thankful to
be a part of the team. Thankful to be
[27:04] here part of a member of the city of
Litzville Park.
[27:09] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[27:10] » Welcome aboard.
>> Thank you. Appreciate We appreciate
[27:13] you're joining us.
>> Yes, sir.
[27:14] » Look forward to working with you on
something that's very, very important to
[27:19] our residents.
>> Thank you.
[27:21] » Thank you.
[27:26] » Okay, next item.
>> Next item we're going to cover is
[27:30] recognition of the ovarian cancer uh
month that is being uh that's being
[27:38] recognized. CS
I don't know if it's if it's the month
[27:43] that we're in or the month. I guess it's
the month that's coming up. September.
[27:45] Is that correct?
>> Okay. We have a representative from the
[27:51] uh
[27:55] ov she's an ovarian cancer survivor.
Rachel second Putnham. She's with us
[28:01] here by Zoom.
uh she is here as an advocate for this
[28:05] pro you know for this awareness and for
uh resolving this disease and we're
[28:11] going to give her a proclamation.
here is the proclamation.
[28:16] Whereas over where whereas ovarian
cancer is the fifth leading cause of
[28:19] cancer related death among women in the
United States and the American Cancer
[28:24] Society estimates that in 2026
approximately 21,010
[28:30] women will be diagnosed with ovarian
cancer and 12,450
[28:36] will die from the disease nationwide
including 510 new cases and 330 deaths
[28:44] in Arizona.
Whereas a woman's lifetime risk of being
[28:49] diagnosed with ovarian cancer is about 1
in 91 and her lifetime risk of dying
[28:55] from the disease, it's approximately 1
in 143.
[29:01] Whereas due to vague non-specific
symptoms and the absence of a reliable
[29:06] early detection test, majority of women
are diagnosed at stage three or later
[29:13] when the cancer has already spread
beyond her ovaries.
[29:17] Whereas although the fifth year or the
fiveyear survival rate for stage one
[29:22] ovarian cancer exceeds 90%, only 15% of
cases are diagnosed at this early stage.
[29:30] For those diagnosed in later stages, the
five-year survival rate drops to below
[29:35] 30%.
Whereas, while screening tools such as
[29:39] mammograms and PEP and PEP tests exist
exist for breast and cervical cancers,
[29:45] no equivalent screening tests exist for
ovarian cancer, making awareness of
[29:50] symptoms and risk factors essential for
early intervention.
[29:55] Whereas increased public education about
ovarian cancer can help save lives by
[29:59] promoting earlier diagnosis, supporting
access to gyneological oncology care,
[30:05] and encouraging research funding for
better detection and treatment options.
[30:11] Whereas during the month of September,
the city of Litfield Park joins
[30:14] survivors, families, healthcare
professionals, adequacy advocacy
[30:19] organizations, and all those committed
to raising awareness
[30:24] remembering lives lost and offering hope
for a future with better outcomes and
[30:30] ultimately a cure.
Now therefore, I, Thomas Elsho, mayor of
[30:34] the city of Isho Park, Arizona, do
hereby proclaim September 2026,
[30:40] as ovarian cancer awareness month and
encourage all residents to participate
[30:45] in awareness activities where teal and
support and engage in conversations that
[30:51] help save lives and support the
thousands of families affected by this
[30:55] devastating disease. Dated the 12th day
of August, 2026.
[31:01] So Stacy, congratulations for surviving.
I got that link. Sorry. Rachel,
[31:06] congratulations for Excuse me. U we
appreciate that you came to us and asked
[31:11] to recognize this month of awareness and
we hope the best for you and for all
[31:18] those who have ovarian cancer.
>> I don't know if you have something you'd
[31:23] like to say. If you do, you're welcome
to do that.
[31:26] » Thank you. I do.
So, my name is Rachel Sacket Putman and
[31:32] I'm here as a stage three ovarian cancer
survivor, thor and advocate and a proud
[31:37] Arizona resident for the past 20 years.
Thank you, mayor, and the council
[31:41] members of the city of Lichfield Park
for recognizing September as ovarian
[31:45] cancer awareness month and for
continuing to support this effort year
[31:49] after year. Arizona is where I built my
adult life, my marriage, my career, and
[31:55] my survivorship. So receiving this
proclamation from the city of Lichfield
[31:59] Park is so deeply meaningful.
Ovarian cancer is one of the deadliest
[32:03] cancers affecting women. Yet it remains
one of the most underfunded and least
[32:08] understood. Over 21,000 women in the US
will be diagnosed this year and more
[32:13] than 12,000 will lose their lives, which
is about a 60% mortality rate. Most
[32:19] women are diagnosed at advanced stages
because symptoms are vague and there's
[32:23] still no reliable early detection test.
For many of us, that lack of awareness
[32:27] is the difference between catching
cancer early and fighting for our lives.
[32:32] I was diagnosed at 38 with a rare
subtype called low-grade cirrus ovarian
[32:37] cancer, a chronic disease with no
standard of care and an 85% recurrence
[32:42] rate. Like many women, I lost my ability
to have biological children. Dreams my
[32:48] husband and I hadn't yet fulfilled. And
this year, I've suffered some very deep
[32:52] losses to this disease. Losses that
weigh heavily and remind me why
[32:57] awareness is so urgently needed. Every
teal light, every social media message,
[33:02] and every proclamation, including yours,
helps someone recognize symptoms earlier
[33:07] and brings a muchneeded awareness to
this insiduous disease. It truly saves
[33:12] lives and honors those women lost far
too soon. Thank you for standing with
[33:16] survivors, honoring the women we've
lost, and helping to protect families
[33:21] across the city of Lichfield Park and
the great state of Arizona. Your
[33:25] continued leadership makes a real and
lasting difference. Together, we can
[33:29] shine a light on this gravely overlooked
disease and give hope to the women and
[33:33] families who need it most.
[33:37] » Thank you, Rachel.
>> Thank you. and congratulations on the
[33:40] reelection.
>> Oh, well, thank you.
[33:43] » You're welcome.
>> Move forward in your mission.
[33:46] » Thank you so much.
>> This takes us to the next presentation.
[33:51] This is the next one that I'm going to
do in the order that I choose to do them
[33:54] with today.
And that is to recognize the
[33:58] distinguished service David Lford.
I was shocked when I heard that you had
[34:04] retired as our prosecutor. I can't
remember a time in which you were not
[34:08] the city's prosecutor.
In fact, I was asked by the city
[34:12] manager, but
>> one day, how many years has David been
[34:16] our city, you know, city prosecutor? And
I I tried to think back and I don't know
[34:21] if it's because I'm older or you've been
or if you've just been prosecutor for so
[34:26] long. I couldn't remember literally a
time when you were not the prosecutor.
[34:30] I'm sure there must have been a time,
but do you recall how many years you've
[34:34] been prosecuting?
[34:37] » Well, I have to excuse me. Uh,
[clears throat] going back through that
[34:44] the law firm and whatnot, we have a
variety of associates coming through and
[34:50] depending on their level of expertise,
some of them were acting as assistant
[34:54] prosecutor. other times when no one was
available, it fell upon me to take care
[34:59] of that mess. So, I don't know exactly.
I I know if at least the last maybe
[35:06] seven years it's it's been me, but going
back, you know, there's different
[35:11] different times. So, it's been a long
time.
[35:14] » It has been a long time and we we
appreciate your service as prosecutor.
[35:18] We have this plaque for you. We also
have to recognize that in addition to
[35:23] being our prosecutor, you have served on
our planning and zoning and our design
[35:27] board and so many other things in the
city. So, thank you very much.
[35:31] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
[35:41] Final comment.
been my privilege. Uh 11 in the city. I
[35:49] first saw it. I was working for a
restaurant in Londale. My boss had a
[35:54] membership
and as part of his membership, he had to
[35:58] spend a certain amount of money every
year. Well, he didn't he didn't know us,
[36:04] but he just wanted to come out two days
a week and play golf. So, right about
[36:09] the week before Christmas every year,
he'd round up the entire firm, take us
[36:14] to lunch over at what is now Reds. That
was the first time I ever saw the show.
[36:19] I never heard of it. Didn't know
anything about it. Then we went from
[36:24] there and then eventually I ended up
where I ended up.
[36:28] But it is a very unique place. You don't
find this anywhere else. Like I've been
[36:33] here long time. I told my my wife and I
moved here. I think we were trying to
[36:39] add that up. I believe it was 29 years
ago, but I wouldn't.
[36:43] But seeing all the trees going down, you
know, it's the problem we all face. You
[36:49] have powdery trees. They're a beautiful
tree when everything is going well, but
[36:55] they don't do well if they're overload
water and wind like you're seeing. And
[36:59] then you have 50 year old trees, you
know, like the one by ribbons there that
[37:04] are down. It's really, it's just really
unfortunate. But as we go forward,
[37:08] everybody's in favor of keeping it
green. So that would be that would be my
[37:13] final comments. But thank you all. I
appreciate the opportunity to serve.
[37:19] Thank you very much for your service.
>> I make a couple.
[37:27] Yeah, a couple of comments. Uh Dave and
I were law partners for more than 40
[37:33] years and longer than as I mentioned at
a chamber of commerce function one time
[37:38] longer than any woman has put up with
either one of us.
[37:45] » And Dave has prosecuted or been
responsible for prosecuting or
[37:50] supervising prosecution
since this city was incorporated. and
[37:56] that's been a while ago. So,
thank you.
[38:01] » Thank you. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[38:07] » Okay, it's going to take take us now to
the presentation by our city engineer
[38:12] about
[38:18] processes.
[38:22] » Yes.
[38:31] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, before I
hand the reigns over completely to Ed,
[38:36] uh I'll leave on one last note with the
presentation you're about to hear. Uh
[38:42] collaborated with Ed on this
presentation so we can get the
[38:45] information right. Want to give a high
level overview of pavement management
[38:49] program treatments.
uh
[38:53] uh what is pavement management, types of
failures, causes of failures, condition
[38:57] evaluations,
uh the applications that we do
[39:00] throughout the city and and where we've
done in other cities, uh appropriate
[39:04] treatments for different type of
failures and then costs.
[39:08] So pain management and predation, it's
programmative methods for collecting and
[39:14] using storing data. uh want to create
these different steps on what to do with
[39:18] the data, historical data, new data, new
technologies. Uh employ the maintenance,
[39:24] preventive, maintenance, and minor
rehabilitation treatments throughout the
[39:27] year. And just keeping good roads in
good condition because I'll show you in
[39:32] a little bit that there's a chart that
kind of summarizes it all. We want to
[39:36] keep good roads in good condition and
they aren't as expensive to rehab. And
[39:41] typically what we do is low cost, low
impact to the environment. But anybody
[39:46] that's seen a road be reconstructed,
that's uh that's the occasional uh
[39:51] remediation that we have to do. And we
did a little bit of that this year.
[39:55] So this chart I've used in other
presentations in my career. Um the white
[39:59] line is, you know, if you just built a
segment of road and just kind of left it
[40:05] uh over a period of time, it's just
going to degrade and go down again down
[40:09] as time goes on. the turquoise and the
pink line. Uh, every time we do a
[40:15] pavement treatment that's relative to
the type of condition that it has, bumps
[40:19] it back up into a different category.
Uh, the smaller jumps are things like
[40:23] slurry and smaller treatments. Bigger
jumps you see to the far right might be
[40:27] a millon overlay or a heavier slurry
type treatment. What our goal is is to
[40:32] never cross the midpoint, which is the O
line. When we get to that point, we have
[40:36] to look at it at a different angle.
That's where we start doing things like
[40:39] taking the asphalt out or uh
rejuvenating the top layer of the
[40:43] asphalt with a new coat.
[40:47] I don't have to go over this whole list.
This is just the types of failures. I
[40:51] mean, there's this list is probably
twice as long as what I could fit on
[40:54] this page. Um what we did is some common
failures that we have here in the city,
[41:01] uh especially in Arizona. Alligator
cracking, block cracking like squares,
[41:06] depressions which are ruts in the
asphalt, joint reflection cracking,
[41:10] longitudinal down the middle of the
street. Um, I highlighted oxidation and
[41:14] raveling. We'll go over that. Those are
the most common types of uh degradations
[41:18] that we see here in the city. Everybody
knows what pothole is. They rear their
[41:22] ugly heads all the time. Um, and then
the transverse scratching. So, I added a
[41:27] couple of pictures kind of put in
perspective. raveling is when the top
[41:31] coat top cream of the asphalt wears away
the the aggregates and the binders
[41:35] starts coming off the top. Um in reality
what happens the first stage is the
[41:40] oxidation. So we start losing the binder
and it gets down you got a rough road
[41:46] alligator cracking. So uh the picture on
the right is actually Camelback Road. I
[41:51] get a lot of questions on why is Calac
Road uh have alligator cracking and then
[41:56] alligator cracking in its basis of
definition is a subgrade failure. So
[42:02] anybody that's driven on Camelback Road,
it does have a lot of lines, a lot of
[42:06] cracks that we filled. Um and when I say
we, I mean MCDOT because that was their
[42:10] road. Um but it doesn't have failures. A
really good sub race. So I added the
[42:14] picture on the left. You can see that
what's happening is water gets in there
[42:18] uh changes in temperature and we start
actually losing uh drivability and the
[42:22] roughness starts really getting in the
top corner of that picture is actually
[42:26] asphalt starting to move. So once water
gets into these positions in the asphalt
[42:30] you start getting a lot of different
kinds of failures that we'll go over
[42:33] here.
Uh took some pictures and some other
[42:38] stuff I had in my archives various
tracking. We see these throughout the
[42:41] various cities. Block cracking. uh the
result of uh tra it's it's mostly
[42:47] traffic related whether it's too much
traffic or not enough traffic. We're
[42:50] always trying to find that midpoint on
what is the road use when they first
[42:54] design. What is the road going to be
used for? We designed for that type of
[42:57] traffic that whether it's heavy trucks,
light trucks, cars down the local
[43:01] streets. Uh but in block cracking, which
is what we just saw, I just showed the
[43:05] picture in countback. You know, heavy
trucks, it was meant for trucks, but not
[43:09] heavy trucks like we seeing all the
time. uh that countback road has many
[43:13] types of these feathers. Uh transverse
cracking um mostly has to do with
[43:18] temperature changes and we see a lot of
that in our local streets. You see a lot
[43:22] of it in Goodyear. Um what happens is
it's a different changes in temperature
[43:28] and uh asphalt's a flexible pavement
design. So it it moves in chunks kind of
[43:33] like a slowmoving iceberg. Uh when it
does crack it moves and then it goes and
[43:38] then it widens back when it gets hot
again. and the crack either moves gets
[43:41] bigger or it starts doing uh latinous
shifts. Longitudinal cracking, we see a
[43:46] lot of that uh down the middle of the
road. So, you know, when they build a
[43:50] street, they can only make the asphalt
hopper what 12 ft max. So, it's about a
[43:55] lane at a time. So, when they actually
build any street, they kind of put two
[43:59] seams together and then they roll and
they try to do their best, but what
[44:02] happens is a crack will show up. One of
the reasons why we wanted to shut down
[44:06] the roundabout a couple week and a half
ago, almost two weeks now, was to try to
[44:12] avoid this. So, when we sh when we got
permission from council to close the
[44:15] roundabout and put the entire surface
course all in one lift, we didn't have
[44:20] any what's called a cold joint. So, we
don't have as big of a worry to ever see
[44:25] any longitudinal transverse cracks in
our surface course. So, we're going to
[44:28] have a good product for a long time.
And then of course uh potholes on the
[44:33] right. Um you get a pin hole, small
hole, it rains, uh the fines start
[44:39] coming out, the rocks stay behind, it
dries out, more traffic comes, kids
[44:43] smell fines, then all of a sudden that
pothole just starts growing and growing.
[44:47] Um and then reflective cracking. Uh I
just have a picture here that shows a
[44:52] square, but it can be in any shape. What
that usually is a result of is when you
[44:57] put a bad subgrade down or a bad base
course, you put a surface course over
[45:01] the top of it and then over a period of
time with that thermal expansion, the
[45:05] crack show. Uh we actually had a problem
on Florence, we mill overlaid it in 23,
[45:13] great surface course, but one year later
because we didn't go all the way down to
[45:17] the bottom course um and take it out and
put it back in, we have some reflective
[45:22] cracking. So that'll have to be
addressed in the next effort.
[45:27] I mentioned this earlier, ringing and
heaving. Um that's a picture that kind
[45:32] of just puts in perspective on Camelback
Road and areas a little bit further to
[45:36] the east. Uh we don't really have huge
ruting along our frontages or our chill
[45:41] streets. Uh but what ring and heaving is
caused from there. There's a lot of
[45:49] reasons why it happens, but what I see
is when it's a bad surface course, when
[45:55] it's got a lot of oil, when it wasn't
put down right, our temperatures get to
[45:59] 120 degrees, got heavy trucks going
through here, and then it just creates
[46:03] those tracks. Uh, a benefit to any
arterials that have a pretty good mix of
[46:09] passenger vehicles is they kind of iron
it out. So that's why I believe Cambeck
[46:15] Road doesn't have such a bad ruting
problem is because we have a really good
[46:18] mix of vehicles. But the reason that the
ruting happen is because we have the
[46:22] heavy trucks. And then depressions,
those are usually localized. Um
[46:26] sometimes we see a longer stretch is
usually when there's like a sinkhole, a
[46:30] void. If a contractor put the subgrade
down and there was maybe a root ball or
[46:35] some branches and they, you know,
degrade and then the fines fall through,
[46:40] he starts to have impressions. You see a
lot of those in parking lots.
[46:45] So general cause of failures big list uh
biggest things I see uh weather you know
[46:52] the biggest failure we have here in uh
in the valley is the oxidizing and the
[46:57] and the raveling and the weather is the
first star that UV rays just degrade
[47:01] that top layer of the binder. Um
construction techniques sometimes fall
[47:06] short. traffic volumes. I mentioned that
before. We have a lot of truck traffic
[47:10] on Cback Road. It really wasn't meant
for that amount of volume of truck
[47:14] traffic. Lots of other things. Uh age
bind age of the binder. So after a
[47:20] certain amount of time, even though
asphalt is a flexible pavement, the
[47:24] binder does become brittle. I mean, you
can get 5, 10, 15 years. It depends on
[47:29] the mix that went down and how it was
put down. You always hope that when we
[47:34] do asphalt, we get the tests done and we
get the lab results and we make sure
[47:38] it's a good um mix. So, up on the
hilltop, we have Nesbbit and Hayden
[47:44] doing a lot of testing of those asphalt
base courses and surface courses, and
[47:48] I'm checking them, checking them,
checking them. We actually do have an
[47:51] issue with one of the pieces of asphalt
that we're working on right now with uh
[47:56] Hayden in the parking lot. So, it would
have high void content. Um, so we're
[48:01] going to possibly see pavement fatigue a
little sooner than we'd like. Um, the
[48:06] answer to that is either have them fully
take it out or we're going to put um
[48:10] type two micro seal over the top of it.
And then there was another section that
[48:14] we were talking about that friction
course was another alternative. So we're
[48:18] going back at them to make sure that the
asphalt is going to be in good shape.
[48:21] » Okay. Um and then subgrade the var
subgrade and asphalt the gradations of
[48:25] thickness and design of the actual
structural section. Those are engineered
[48:30] pieces of an asphalt section. So from
the ground up we make sure that that
[48:35] it's qualified personnel doing those
designs and they go through the proper
[48:38] reviews and that they're applicable to
what they're you don't want to put a
[48:42] localized street section to replace a
portion of cab.
[48:50] Uh so payment condition evaluation not
going to read everything. Uh you got PCI
[48:54] index, you got automated distress
surveys. Uh the pacer evaluation is a
[48:59] smaller scale. It's 1 to 10. And then
the PSI rating is 0 to five. So these
[49:05] bottom two, the pacer PSI, I don't
really do a lot of those. I don't know
[49:08] if you've done any of those and Scott
still. Um usually those are just kind of
[49:12] a quick attack. That's how I kind of
define it is because the scale is only 1
[49:17] to 10 or 0 to five. Uh the PCI index is
an evaluation from 0 to 100 and it is
[49:22] developed over a long period of time.
What you do is you you do an evaluation
[49:27] of a street and you determine what kind
of failure it is. And a lot of times
[49:31] especially in older streets there's
multiple types of failures. You have
[49:34] transverse cracking, oxidation, ruting,
rattling. So every time there is a
[49:40] failure identified within the area
you're looking at, you start subtracting
[49:43] numbers from it. And so we start getting
into uh numbers that are falling below
[49:48] 100 into the range if you remember the
graph I showed you earlier. Um
[49:53] and then the automated distress survey.
So that's something Ed and I were
[49:57] talking about. Um Ed did a lot of that
in in Scottsdale. We're going to propose
[50:00] to do that here in Lfield Park, but
essentially it's having uh these
[50:05] companies that specialize in uh pavement
condition evaluations. It'd be good for
[50:09] us to start with the streets department
to have a good baseline of our street
[50:13] conditions and having consultants that
specify and doing that kind of work is a
[50:17] very good approach to having that
baseline number.
[50:21] So PCI index the target is 75 70 to 85.
I think that's a generally good range in
[50:26] the valley. um we all kind of I say we
the cities and when I was a consultant
[50:33] always uh kind of determined what a good
rating was and that's how a lot of
[50:37] cities develop their program is to try
to get their street sections into these
[50:41] ranges and there's a direct dollar
relation to that so that's why it has
[50:45] such a big impact on um so it prior
prioritizes street segments based on
[50:50] whatever the funding is um and their
rating and like I mentioned before
[50:55] multiple different types of distresses
as you start subtracting more numbers
[50:58] off. Um, and then the fourth bullet is
very important because the historical
[51:02] data, I went back as part of doing this,
I went back and looked at a lot of our
[51:06] historical uh treatments and in the
early 2000s, we actually did a lot of
[51:11] chip seal. Um, it's not something I
would have guessed that we would have
[51:14] done in local streets in in a city
because usually chip seal is something
[51:18] you do in more of a rural area. I grew
up in Jack Rabbit and Camelback and we
[51:22] had dirt roads until the county came in
and give us chips seal. thought it was
[51:26] it was the greatest day in the world.
Um, but we did a lot of chip seal around
[51:29] here, so it makes a lot of sense on some
of the fatigue and and stresses and and
[51:34] failures that we're seeing on some of
these local streets because uh we'll
[51:38] start off with a smaller section and
then when you go out there and actually
[51:40] look at it, it's, you know, it's huge.
It's because it's got all these
[51:43] miniature layers of different kinds of
asphalt uh rejuvenation and that can
[51:48] contribute to failures too because it's
not a homogeneous one single type of
[51:53] material. and all the pieces are working
against each other.
[51:58] Just want to put it into perspective. I
got another slide, but uh you can see a
[52:02] nice shiny new road in the top left. Um
you know, the PCI of 90 is not that bad.
[52:08] You start seeing some little oxidation.
Look at uh and sorry about the pictures
[52:12] are a little light, but in in the middle
left one, you can start seeing that
[52:17] there's some raveling. Uh if you zoom in
on the picture on the computer, I can
[52:20] see there's a rocks. And then to the far
right PCI 60, you're starting to get
[52:24] some hairline cracks and some edge
ruting. And then obviously in the bottom
[52:28] two, you can really see those those uh
cracks. And every year that we do some
[52:34] sort of pavement replacement, we're
having we have streets hovering in the
[52:37] neighborhood of somewhere between a low
number and up to 40.
[52:42] Another picture with high high level. Um
see the top left again, not shiny road.
[52:48] Um, and then the bottom right, I think
that was actually a parking lot. Um, so
[52:54] pavement is a flexible material. It
really predicates on if it gets used or
[53:00] doesn't get used because parking lots,
culde-sacs, streets that actually don't
[53:03] get traffic, their PCI ratings do go
down tremendously.
[53:11] So, uh, wanted to just go over, you
know, some applications. We got asphalt,
[53:15] we got overlay, we got full depth, we've
got uh patch repairs, trip seal or crack
[53:20] seal. Uh a couple of pictures just to
put in perspective for everybody. Crack
[53:24] seal of course. Uh we did a lot of that
this last round and as well as type two
[53:29] micro seal. So anytime we do a seal of
any kind, whether it's micro seal, a
[53:35] PMM, or there's various other kind of
seals, we're going to do a crack seal
[53:39] first um moving forward. So primarily we
do uh crack seal um almost every every
[53:46] time you do micro seal you want to do
crack seal. If you do micro seal and
[53:50] don't do crack seal things start
falling. I know we had a big effort
[53:53] where we put a lot of PMM uh down which
we have a picture from the right there
[53:57] and we didn't do a lot of crack seal. Uh
I know that that was a lot of feedback
[54:01] got from the constituents and members of
council. Um, so I went back and I was
[54:06] talking to Ed and I just want to make
sure I wasn't going crazy because uh, a
[54:10] lot of times and a lot of cities don't
put a a treatment down before PMM. Uh,
[54:16] we do a lot of that. We did about half
and half. So we did do a lot of streets
[54:19] this year with just PMM. Uh, we also
want to get it rejuvenated for the next
[54:23] rounds, the next few years. So some of
these streets where we put PMM down,
[54:27] we're going to either do uh, some sort
of overlay or a thicker coat like a
[54:32] micros. So, we're kind of prepping the
street for a future effort all while
[54:35] rejuvenating the oxidiz oxidized street
and the and the raveling. Want to keep
[54:41] the the pedals down.
The slurry seal fog coat's not a you
[54:47] don't really want to do a lot of that.
It doesn't give you many years. You see
[54:50] a lot of fog coats on parking. It's a
cheap quickie. It gets maybe two years
[54:55] before that top coat starts oxidizing.
Fog coat's not a big thing that you see
[54:59] on the streets.
[55:03] Everybody knows uh pothole and patching.
Uh HTME HDMB
[55:08] highdensity mineral bond. Um one of my
favorite applications. I know Ed likes a
[55:12] lot. We did that on the village uh
before I was in here. Woody did that.
[55:17] Previous city engineer did that HA5. Uh
I got to tell you that stuff is still in
[55:22] really good shape today. The downside to
it is it's slippery. It's a really quick
[55:28] way you lose friction. Um, I know the
previous, uh, one of the previous public
[55:33] works directors, I think, was riding a
motorcycle during a rain and slipped
[55:37] out. Came back and said, "We're never
doing HA5 again."
[55:41] » That's a story I heard. So, um, it's
it's been off the radar for a little
[55:45] while, but um, bang for the buck. It
does cost a little bit. It's pretty
[55:49] proprietary. I think Hullberg does that
and a couple of people do it, so you
[55:53] have to schedule with them and have them
come in. But the amount of times I put
[55:58] that stuff down and the way the streets
look these days, that might be a really
[56:01] good um investment option on some of
these streets uh that we want to keep
[56:06] that are good streets we want to keep in
good condition because you can't put HA5
[56:10] on anything that's lower than I think
the 60 [snorts] or 70
[56:14] on the rating.
Like I said, chip seal um it's still
[56:19] prevalent. Cape seal is the same thing
as chip seal. Just put another layer of
[56:22] asphalt by tumin uh tar on top.
We won't be doing that around here, so
[56:28] don't worry about that. Very loud.
Asphalt overlay. Uh, for the most part,
[56:34] we don't do a lot of asphalt overlay
unless we mill first. So, uh, take one
[56:38] and a half inch or more off and put the
same thickness down. Um, I know that
[56:43] when I did a lot of pavement management
for the city of Glendel, they wanted to
[56:46] take one inch off and put two inches
back on. And so, uh, and and a lot of
[56:52] streets for some reason. and we did some
cores and you can see that that's just
[56:56] their preference. Um they had some
drainage issues and if we have drainage
[57:00] issues in the same way we're going to
have a crown street that's an option we
[57:03] can look at without tearing the whole
street out or just add on to it.
[57:07] And then of course pool depth uh removal
reconstruction we did that on a few
[57:11] streets. We're going to do that on u
another street coming up here at the end
[57:15] of August.
[57:18] Something that we don't see very lot
just want to throw um uh up on here is
[57:22] uh cold and place recycled asphalt and
hot in place recycled asphalt. I don't
[57:27] know Ed did you do a lot of that in
Scottdale still? It's a it's it's a very
[57:33] cost effective way to get large sections
of street. So if we wanted to just
[57:37] rejuvenate all of the park, all of
Camelback or all of Wigwam in one shot,
[57:41] what happens is that it's all one
operation. The truck in the front um is
[57:47] dropping off oil. The milling machine
dumps it in there, mixes it. Um the
[57:52] blade picture that you see, it's all
based on rotations and how fast it goes
[57:56] on how uh the aggregate is broken up.
They inject the emulsion and it comes
[58:01] out asphalt. So they're recycling the
asphalt in place and they're rolling it.
[58:06] So this asphalt that you see here just
got, you know, chewed up up here. So
[58:11] that is something to consider when we
want to go after uh funds for doing
[58:15] countback rope.
And then FDR's full depth reclamation.
[58:20] So this asphalt section here takes off
the top coat. Full depth reclamation
[58:25] gets all the way down to the asphalt and
the sub rate. It actually mixes the AB
[58:30] and the pulverized asphalt and makes it
all new asphalt.
[58:37] So just really quick wanted to go over a
couple of uh
[58:41] failures in their treatment. So raing
oxidation want to do slurs pas micro
[58:45] seals HMV mill and overlay when it's a
bad enough situation. Uh when you have
[58:50] real alligator cracking it's full depth
replacement. So when we start looking at
[58:54] asphalt and we give the PCI rating,
we're going to give it a really low
[58:58] score because that uh when the rock or
when the chunks of asphalt start really
[59:02] coming apart and rattling like that,
there's no rejuvenate
[59:06] various longitudinal cracks uh block
transverse [snorts] reflective. We do a
[59:11] lot of crack seal slurry pment. That's
the majority of what we did this last
[59:15] effort. Um, some situations where you
have big cracks, which we saw in a few
[59:20] locations, we have a mill and overlay
that has to go down full depth and have
[59:23] to bring in fresh asphalt.
[59:27] Bottles again, tear the whole thing out.
We did a 15 of them on Camelback Road a
[59:34] couple months ago. um just had big holes
after um a lot of use. And so we had a
[59:40] contractor come out after we did the
mill and overlay of diceart and they
[59:43] filled 15 spots just cuz potholes just
get worse. They don't get any better.
[59:51] I did not do that presentation. So I'm
just surprised. Edge cracking or edge
[59:56] failure. That's actually a picture um
from here in the city uh that was
[1:00:00] rejuvenated in before I got here. Um,
but the answer to that is you either
[1:00:05] mill it all out or take the whole
asphalt out. And the the culprit is
[1:00:09] water infiltration. And the reason why I
show that picture is because we do have
[1:00:13] a very green city. You have a lot of
situations where that does happen. So
[1:00:18] these next couple years, we'll be
looking at some of these edge failures
[1:00:20] and trying to repair them. You see a lot
of that up in the areas where um, you
[1:00:24] know, Voeva, Acacia, all that area up
there has uh quite a few of these
[1:00:28] locations.
[1:00:31] Similarly, uh with these type of
fitters, full depth replacement, uh if
[1:00:35] you do have a really good section on
these rabbit hung and heaving areas, we
[1:00:39] can't just shave them off. Um more often
than not, you got to go deep. And that's
[1:00:44] again another reference of what I think
we're going to have to do for Camelback
[1:00:47] Road when that time does come.
I got to the last slide. Uh this is a
[1:00:54] cost kind of uh evaluation of the last
couple years I found went back to 2006.
[1:01:00] So, I was very surprised at how close
some of the unit prices came and
[1:01:05] actually uh some of them uh haven't gone
up very much and some has gone down. Now
[1:01:09] the unit price of the first bullet here
depends heavily on your square footage.
[1:01:14] Um I can tell you in 2006 we didn't do a
lot and in 2023 we did a decent amount.
[1:01:20] Um 2026 we did more than all of those
combined
[1:01:24] lifespan of you know we got 15 to 20
years out of every do mill and overlay.
[1:01:30] You can see that the unit price is more
expensive. Uh it's worth it if you can
[1:01:35] keep up with the rejuvenation. So like
we did u my tainter and
[1:01:42] » it's yeah we did that two three years
ago and the next effort we're going to
[1:01:47] put a PMM layer. So that's a brand new
asphalt. There's no block track, no
[1:01:50] cracks at all. We're going to rejuvenate
it uh for a few dollars a square yard
[1:01:55] and um that asphalt is going to be good
for the next 25 years.
[1:02:01] That's it. Uh, I hope everybody enjoyed
my last speech until over to Ed. So,
[1:02:08] there are any questions, concerns?
>> Mr. Vice Mayor, did you say a couple of
[1:02:14] our streets are double layer chip
sealed?
[1:02:17] » Multiple layers from what I can tell
from looking at um old uh PMP reports,
[1:02:24] » but they started out as as chip sealer.
They I think they're rejuvenating the
[1:02:30] chipset. I can't find a lot of
information asphalt is. I do have some
[1:02:35] pictures from the 60s. It's you know
black asphalt's going down. I don't know
[1:02:38] how thick it is or what kind of
gradation, but there was a big push
[1:02:42] actually in 2006 area where um crack
seal was the rejuvenation level that
[1:02:48] went down and I think it was more that
cape seal where you put put
[1:02:52] binder down, drop the rocks and another
binder and most people wouldn't even
[1:02:56] know that it is [snorts] a chip seal.
Those watch
[1:03:03] is the mill and overlay the one where
they take the old one up and it's all
[1:03:08] done in the one process.
>> U council member the uh the mill and
[1:03:12] overlay. So there's the milling overlay
mill in place. The milling overlay
[1:03:16] they'll take off about one and a half
inches and then put one and a half
[1:03:18] inches back up. The cold in place
recycling is when they take it all out,
[1:03:23] mix it and then inject the hot or the
cold asphalt and then put it back down
[1:03:27] right behind it. Where does that fall
costwise in this?
[1:03:31] » We have never um done that. So um I have
done it before and the the costs are
[1:03:36] comparable to the mill and overlay
>> and is it is it something that can be
[1:03:41] driven on eight hours later or?
>> Yep. It's it's just like cod asphalt. Um
[1:03:46] we're about to do Cascada um and they'll
have an overnight closure, but in all
[1:03:50] reality once they put it down and the
temperature goes down to below what does
[1:03:54] it have to be? 160 170 I think once once
it's below that temperature you can open
[1:04:00] it traffic. So when the cold in place
recycling if we do that on camelback
[1:04:05] road it'll actually go pretty quick
because it's not a hot injection of of
[1:04:09] bumment. It's the hot in place um that
they have it really heated up and they
[1:04:14] have a fire going and they they really
cook it when they put it down.
[1:04:17] » And last question several years ago um
ADOT rubberized the freeway. member I 10
[1:04:24] getting rubberized. What is that process
and is that something we should consider
[1:04:29] maybe for Camelback Road?
>> Council member, uh that is definitely
[1:04:33] always an option. Um there's been a lot
of and and ADOT only went rubberized
[1:04:38] forever. Whenever I did a fairway
design, you had to put that on. The last
[1:04:42] couple years before I came here, it was
always uh we want to do a high traffic
[1:04:47] super paved regular asphalt like/ inch
or 38 inch. The the reason why is
[1:04:53] because you're going to get you're it's
going to cost a little bit more uh to
[1:04:57] put it down. The problem with ARA CFC
and the rubberized asphalt is there's no
[1:05:02] rejuvenation. So once the you can't just
slurry it. So in two to five years when
[1:05:08] the asphalt wears and and the sun
oxidizes it and you get all the stuff in
[1:05:12] your gutters, you'll have like the top
of a Rice Krispie treat is how I like to
[1:05:17] tell everybody. And then it's a little
rough. And so I think that's actually
[1:05:21] what they had on Camelback Road and um
it's kind of got the remnants of it. The
[1:05:26] only you can do is mill it out and put
new asphalt down. A lot of the reason
[1:05:30] why we do AR the rubberized asphalt is
for noise and the new 3/4 inch and half
[1:05:36] inch mixes. U there's evac mixes,
there's city of Phoenix mixes, and
[1:05:40] there's mag mixes. There's lots of other
mixes. Um but the new mixes now have
[1:05:45] decal levels that are very comparable to
rubberized asphalt and they can be
[1:05:49] rejuvenated.
>> Well, thank you. Um Ed, first of all,
[1:05:55] welcome to the city. I'm so glad that
you joined us. We I think are in need of
[1:05:59] a street superintendent. So glad to
welcome you to the team. Um Keith, as
[1:06:04] far as the um pavement management plan
and the pavement condition evaluation,
[1:06:12] can you take us through how on an annual
basis this looks to make sure that all
[1:06:18] of our treat our streets receive
treatments every 5 to 10 years? What
[1:06:22] what can our residents expect every year
from us?
[1:06:26] » Well, thank you, Council Member Allen.
Um so in the past, what we do is uh
[1:06:32] glamorizing it by calling the windshield
inspection, but I actually get out of
[1:06:37] the truck when I look at the streets.
Um, so there is an actual physical
[1:06:41] evaluation at each street. Um, when a
street has a section that might all be
[1:06:46] the same type of failure. If you have to
do a lot of crack seal, you isolate it
[1:06:50] by, you know, a 40 or 50 foot section by
the width and you evaluate that street
[1:06:55] and then you can choose to do more or
less. Um, so we do that on every single
[1:07:00] street section. And when I say each
street section, it's between each block.
[1:07:04] So where if you have all of uh you know
WigWall, it's going to be uh
[1:07:10] Lichfield to Wigw to to desert, desert
to old Lfield all the way down. And we
[1:07:15] do that with every street. So we do an
actual evaluation. We do uh an
[1:07:19] evaluation of the historical information
uh whether it got slurry sealed or micro
[1:07:24] sealed. And that that plays into the PCI
index. We give it a numerical
[1:07:28] evaluation. Um, and there's a small
equation that you can do, uh, depending
[1:07:33] if there's multiple failures. So, what
we do with that information each year is
[1:07:38] we we have obviously what it's graded,
whether the street's got a 60 or a 40 or
[1:07:42] an 80 or 90. If it has high numbers,
it's dep prioritized compared to the
[1:07:47] lower number ones. If we have a large
number of say 40 or under, like we we
[1:07:53] actually do have a few of those streets,
we can either elect to only do removal
[1:07:59] and replacement of that piece of of
those pieces of asphalt and not do any
[1:08:03] slurry seal or crack seal or micro
sealer or PMM or we break it up like we
[1:08:08] did this last year. So we break it up
and we do a complete removal and
[1:08:11] replacement of one street for whatever
the cost of and then we can get another
[1:08:16] 100 street sections done with a
combination of slurry or micro seal
[1:08:21] crack. So there is a detailed evaluation
on how we can manage the funding because
[1:08:28] we can either do all of one kind and
catch up in that way over a period of
[1:08:32] time or we can give a little attention
to each street and raise the numbers
[1:08:36] over a slower period of time and then
have a good baseline which is what it
[1:08:40] has been that's been the approach for
the last from what I can tell and my
[1:08:44] predecessor that was his approach and we
carry that on. Uh that is a discussion
[1:08:49] that Ed and I had is what is our future
approach and I did mention that I think
[1:08:53] what our attack is going to be is we
want to come up with the baseline
[1:08:56] evaluation for each street starting day
one and that's where we're going to have
[1:09:00] the streets super who has done a lot of
that stuff millions and millions of
[1:09:03] miles I hear. So we're going to we're
going to take the historical information
[1:09:08] but we're just going to use that as a
reference in our new baseline. Once we
[1:09:12] have the baseline of all the streets
we're going to prioritize based on the
[1:09:15] available funding. And I've had
discussions with the city manager, you
[1:09:19] know, I think this year we have a
million dollars. I think we have 600,000
[1:09:22] in her and we have 400,000 in uh capital
contingency or general fund. So for a
[1:09:29] million dollars you can either do
150 slurry sections or you can do a
[1:09:36] couple of RNRs and you know maybe 40 or
50 slurry and PMS. So what we're going
[1:09:41] to do is see where we're at in the
baseline and how that needs to apply to
[1:09:44] all the street sections. So we are going
to go through a detailed analysis. I
[1:09:47] don't have the exact breakup right now
because we just got done through the
[1:09:51] whole effort. We spent 1
four million three.
[1:09:57] » Um and I think we got 140 street
sections. So which is one of the biggest
[1:10:01] pushes we've had in a long time. So we
have a really good baseline now of
[1:10:05] historical information that we can
springboard off of.
[1:10:10] » Questions.
First, thank you for putting this
[1:10:13] together. A lot of hate. I feel like I
just sat in it on school class. There's
[1:10:16] a reason I'm a dumb mover and not an
engineer. Uh
[1:10:20] love seeing that we we got a plane going
forward and that we got Ed on board to
[1:10:24] to help you manage this and have it go
forward. I'm really excited to see how
[1:10:28] we can take it um and elevate everything
that we're doing. We've talked about
[1:10:31] that for a long time. I'd love to see us
take the opportunity to project three,
[1:10:37] five, 10 years and be able to budget so
that we if we see that we're having
[1:10:42] failures in areas that we can ask for
budget in advance so that we can plan
[1:10:46] for it and not be reactive to things
that are not getting done or that got
[1:10:50] skipped and and have different issues.
So Ed Hson, I would love for you to ask
[1:10:54] you to as you're evaluating uh with
Keith what we're doing to to look
[1:10:59] forward and to see, okay, this is good
for now, but in three years, we need
[1:11:03] this in this space so we can get city
leadership to be able to give us real uh
[1:11:08] budget numbers to plan for so we can get
these roads where they need to be and
[1:11:12] not have to wait a full 10 year cycle to
get everything that's there. But Keith,
[1:11:16] thank you for this. I know it's been a
hard push this last little bit and
[1:11:19] appreciate the other concert. Always
fun. I love playing an
[1:11:25] » All right. Thank you for your
presentation.
[1:11:27] » Thank you.
>> Appreciate everybody.
[1:11:30] » All right. That takes us to our next
item,
[1:11:36] the presentation set
which is a presentation
[1:11:42] Peterson
as the 2026 gofo
[1:11:49] a I guess government financial officer a
>> finance excellence award which I think
[1:11:56] is going to be presented by the city
manager.
[1:11:59] » Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um, mayor and
council, we want to take this time to
[1:12:03] recognize Paige that she has received
this award. So, annually there are 20
[1:12:08] nominations for this award and there are
two that are selected and she was one of
[1:12:12] the two for this year. Um, to me, one of
the biggest honors for Paige for this,
[1:12:16] she doesn't mind me saying this, is that
who this nomination came from and that
[1:12:19] it came from her own employees. And that
says something for her for what they
[1:12:23] think of her and her work relationship
with her. And as you guys know, it's
[1:12:27] been said in many council meetings.
Paige does a great job as assistant city
[1:12:30] manager, but also as finance director.
Paige keeps us keeps our numbers where
[1:12:34] they need to be and lets us know when
they're not where they need to be. And
[1:12:37] she does a fantastic job. Makes my life
a whole lot easier. And I think she she
[1:12:41] very much deserve this deserves this
award. And I think she'd like to have
[1:12:44] things to say, too. But congratulations
to Pa. You certainly earned it.
[1:12:55] I just want to say thank you to Maria
and Lisa and Monica. They were the three
[1:13:01] that submitted the nomination. I was
very touched by it. Very surprised when
[1:13:06] I opened the email that I got the award.
I thought they were talking about the
[1:13:09] annual one we get every year and I was
like, "Oh, I guess they're going to give
[1:13:13] me the button at the lunchon rather than
mail it to me." So, thank you ladies and
[1:13:20] thank thank you Matthew for your support
and mayor and council as well.
[1:13:25] » Well, congratulations. We we appreciate
all the hard work you put in on our
[1:13:29] keeping our financial statements
accurate and all the modeling you do for
[1:13:33] us and help us helping us at making
decisions long term. So, thank you. And
[1:13:38] it's great that you were recognized for
your work by others. Thanks.
[1:13:41] » Thank you.
Every time we think
[1:13:45] she can't get any better, she gets
better.
[1:13:50] » There's no place left to go. She
>> she rises.
[1:13:56] » All right, that takes us to our report
section. All the reports are in the
[1:14:00] packet. If you have questions about
them, please direct those functions of
[1:14:07] I don't think there are any that we need
updates on specifically. Then we're
[1:14:11] going to go to the consent agenda item
8A approved
[1:14:16] eight. Is there an item on consent that
council memb
[1:14:23] » a anything else?
Is there a motion to adopt consent
[1:14:28] agenda items 8 B through H. So move
second.
[1:14:34] » Second.
>> All those in favor please say I.
[1:14:37] » I. Any opposed?
Items B8 are adopted. Sent item A. Vice
[1:14:45] Mayor, you have a question you would
like to discuss.
[1:14:48] » Uh, yes. The minutes of the meeting June
17th where we adopted the final budget.
[1:14:54] Says a motion was made by none and I
seconded it. You
[1:14:58] » did a good job. [laughter]
>> It's our it's our budget. So probably
[1:15:04] probably ought to get that fixed and
made correct. I think that's on page 94
[1:15:09] and then on 98
uh which is the same meeting June 17th
[1:15:15] meeting um fiscal year salary range
schedule and position roster mover or
[1:15:21] none seconded
[1:15:25] what's that word
>> second
[1:15:29] council member Braard Watson so probably
ought to find who made that motion stick
[1:15:34] it in there also
>> correct
[1:15:36] break
>> or approve as amended.
[1:15:41] » I'm sorry.
>> Approve as amended. So bring a motion to
[1:15:49] bring back
the
[1:15:54] we
[1:16:00] » just this the June 17 minutes, right?
the rest of them.
[1:16:05] » Page 94 and 98 of our packet. June 17th
[1:16:13] » uh special meeting June 17th regular
meeting
[1:16:21] » approve the rest.
[1:16:25] » So we could approve if we wish the
>> July 9th special meeting. So we can
[1:16:30] approve July June 3rd and then July 9 27
30 26 special meetings. So we need a
[1:16:38] motion to approve items on on item 8A.
We're going to approve items uh June 3rd
[1:16:46] 26 work study session minutes
July 9th 27th and 30th special meeting
[1:16:53] minutes
and refer the June 17th special and
[1:16:59] regular meeting minutes back to the city
clerk for for corrections. Is there a
[1:17:05] motion for that?
>> Any further discussion? All those in
[1:17:10] favor please say I. I
>> all right it
[1:17:17] that takes care of our business section.
We do not need an executive session.
[1:17:21] » No sir,
Mr. Mayor.
[1:17:26] » We Sorry, sir. We do need a short
executive session.
[1:17:28] » I'm sorry.
>> I'm sorry, sir. We do need a short
[1:17:30] executive session.
>> You need to speak more quickly.
[1:17:33] » Yes, I'll try.
>> Maybe slower with the gaffles
[1:17:38] for get out of here before 8:30. Okay.
Okay, then we're going to bring the
[1:17:43] meeting back to order so we can weigh
ourselves in executive session. Motion
[1:17:47] move which under which item executive
session A or B?
[1:17:51] » AB or B, sir?
>> B. So, is there a motion to go in
[1:17:54] executive session? Item 10 E.
>> Have a second.
[1:18:00] » All those clear say I.
Any opposed? All right, we're going to
[1:18:04] executive session.