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We're going to call the the meeting to

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order. Please rise for the pledge of

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allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Paul to the community. This is the time

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for citizens who would like to address

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the commission on any non-aggenda item.

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Action taken as a result of public

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comment will be limited to asking staff

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to review the matter, asking that the

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matter [clears throat] be put on a

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future agenda, or responding to

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criticism. We do have

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Mrs. Beverly, Gary, I said it right. And

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you guys are asking to discuss the speed

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bumps on Wigwam Boulevard. So, the

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podium is yours.

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>> You can or I mean,

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>> yes, please. So, we can hear you.

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>> Okay, there you go.

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» Okay. Hello. Good evening. My name is

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Beverly Gary. Um, I work at Palbury

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Nuclear Generating Station. We've been a

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resident here in Lfield Park for over 25

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years. I about a year ago requested to

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have speed bumps installed on Wubon

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Boulevard because the traffic is just

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insane. We have a lot of kids that um

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still go to school and I was I br I went

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to the um

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uh what's what's over here? the city

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hall and asked inquired about it and I

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was told that because of Wigwam

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Boulevard or um the wigwam that we

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weren't going to put

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uh speed bumps in on Wong Boulevard.

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However, if you go to Bird Lane, Bird

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Lane has all of the um speed bumps and

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things to slow traffic down. I think

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Bbon Boulevard needs it. We have a lot

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of our kids still going to school. We

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have school um

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school age kids everywhere. So I think

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it's it is a um a good idea to put speed

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bumps in and I would like to see that. I

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go for a walk every morning and they fly

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through there. There's not enough um

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policing around to stop it. So I think

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speed bumps would be a idea especially

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just to keep our kids safe in the

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neighborhood. Our kids are grown, but

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they've grown up here and I think still

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the kids need to be safe. So that's my ask. Thank you.

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about. Indian school all the way to um

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what is it? Lfield road.

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insane. And um I actually will drive

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through and go 25 miles an hour and 50

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miles an hour just to slow traffic down.

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>> So um it it is needed. Absolutely. And

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there is more traffic on Won Boulevard

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than there is on Bird Lane. But Bird

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Lane has those those uh speed arresters.

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this is outside the purview of what we

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to answer it. I'm always willing to to

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speak. So, yeah. Thank you.

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» Community and Recreation Services

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Monthly Report. Presenter Trisha Kramer,

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Community and Recreation Services

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Director.

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Commissioners. Uh the REC monthly report

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is in your packet. Um, I'll go over a

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couple of items. Uh, now that we're into

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swim lessons and a lot of that, um,

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programmed activity winds down. So, we

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have expanded open swim hours. So,

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weekdays from 3:00 to 9:00, Saturdays

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to the public until Labor Day. Um we

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have uh very limited programming in the

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pool right now. Water aerobics and some

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one-on-one elite swim lessons. And

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that's our usual um August programming.

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holding their uh swim practices and

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their home meets. They started this week

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and they'll be um using the pool again

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August water aerobics. I have in there

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that there were six registrants. We

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actually currently have uh 10

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registrants. So that went up a little

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bit since our uh written report went

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out. Um we are showing Finding Nemo, our

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final uh divein movie uh next Saturday

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the 22nd. And so we sell those tickets

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there are WECK members, they can uh stop

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in and get complimentary passes to the

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movie and uh tickets can be purchased

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day of too if anyone is interested in

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bringing their families out to that. Um

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community services, our staff

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participated in Lichfield Elementary

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programming, our youth sports and events

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the meeting, uh, Katitude Arts and their

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teen mural team, who came out to present

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to you at that last meeting, um,

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completed their mural project on, uh,

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the 31st, so it was done just in time

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for that August 3rd, uh, ribbon cutting

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for the library. So, if you haven't had

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you to to go into the library, take a

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look because um it was definitely done

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with love and care by these teenagers

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feedback to heart and and um I think

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they're proud of what they did and

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hopefully the community will be too. Um,

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next round of Ola uh letting our local

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artists applications

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actually two weeks now and applications

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will be accepted through October 1st. Um

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looking to see more amenities at Rose

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Park. Um, so we did recommend that

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whatever the new installation is that it

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be put at Rose Park as just one amenity

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input to whoever is selected, we'll keep

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running around and getting used to

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classroom rules, all that good stuff.

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stages where we're trying to lock down

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approval last night through the council

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meeting to move forward with that. So,

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we look forward to having them back out

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for their homecoming parade. And, uh,

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had our we have coach pitch registration

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practices did start this week um Monday,

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league. So we are excited to see the

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getting filled up. So we're excited to

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see that. Uh fall registration is uh

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fall t-ball, basketball and flag

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football uh ends on Monday. Um we have

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as of today we had about 512 total

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participants, 222 basketball, 170 t-ball

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four age group was open a little less

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to do the numbers and the rest of

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yesterday but again got rained out. So

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again. Um we're full through uh October.

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on the age groups are pretty good at

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looking too. So it's exciting to see

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tennis back out there and getting ready

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to go. Um and that's about all I have

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>> For um I think at some point we had an

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of their fields. We're not able to do

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that still, right? Or is there any are

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you able to do any of your youth sports

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in their small fields? So we used we did

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priority over all those fields but we've

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worked together in the past and whenever

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they were to that field. Oh, we still

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pay the whatever rates they had and when

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they made the rate the rate change um

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>> increase it kind of looking at that we

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would have made it work but we are able

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to make it work around kind of keeping

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one of the teams at the fields and

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moving so we don't have to use that

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field anymore. So thanks

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>> the cost increase factored in.

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>> Yeah.

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That's from a number of people

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organizations that rent fields from the

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school district. It was quite hefty

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>> again. Yes. What's the hourly rate for

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their fields?

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>> I the fields I

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can't remember what they there were. I

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know that they increased the basketball

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gyms from like 20 to 33 and the fields

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are probably around that same rises for

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us and stuff. So,

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» thank you guys. Are there any other

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questions?

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Okay, thank you very much. And moving

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on,

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sorry. Takes me a minute.

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Okay.

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Public Grounds Monthly Report. Kevin

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Hamilton, public grounds superintendent.

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[clears throat]

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>> Teddy Council. Thank you guys. Um,

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>> sorry.

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» Wow. Yes. Wow. As long as I can get

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>> same rate. Same pay rate. More

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responsibility. Sorry, guys. Okay. So, I

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am um my executive summary is in your

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packets as well. Um it's it's quite

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lengthy and touches on a few different

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areas. Uh I'm going to try to stay

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focused and hit on some some key

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accomplishments and points. Um but

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during our reporting period, we did have

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staff uh advance in several high

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priority maintenance and improvement

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initiatives across city parks, streets,

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landscape rights away, irrigation

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systems, and wreck programs. Uh some of

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our major accomplishments included

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substantial progress on turf ariation

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and fertilization, rem removal of

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hazardous trees on the hilltop, and

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continued citywide pruning along with

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the completion of storm damage cleanup

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and an implementation of new operating

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procedures and preparations for upcoming

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recreation programs and community

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events. Um, so to hit on some of our key

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accomplishments over the last 30 days,

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um, we've hit 100% completion on our

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citywide airification program, we were

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able to hit all of the turf areas in the

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city, uh, with a refying for the first

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time in over a year. Um, we completed

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fertilizer applications as well through

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all these turf areas. Um, from my

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understanding and the records I was able

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to find, this was the first time that

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the turf had been treated with a

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fertilizer application in some time. Um,

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we also created a standard operating

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procedure for mowing and are now

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unanimously mowing at the same height

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throughout the uh department, which was

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not the case as of April. Um, so we are

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now uh on a Bermuda transition um plan.

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It's a five-week program. Essentially,

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back at the end of May, we implemented a

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five-week plan to get rid of all of the

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grass in our grass areas except for the

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targeted grass that we wanted to grow

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for the summer, which would be our

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Bermuda grass. Um, as you can see, a lot

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of the grass transition through that

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time went from yellow and brown to a

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little bit more green. And now you can

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see a lot of those areas are now

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bouncing back and coming with just one

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type of grass, um, which was the desire.

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Ultimately, what we'll look to do is

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start that transition much sooner next

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year. Um given that I was only put in

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this role in April and we were a few

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weeks and months behind um that

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transition is something we will expect

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to see a lot sooner next year. Um

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because we are about 30 to 45 days away

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from transitioning now to our our winter

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rye. Um which is where we are also

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looking in our A program to potentially

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look at options for hydro seating. Um,

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so we're going to look at different

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options for uh transition this year with

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our winter grass, mostly in coordination

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with our parks and our wreck team

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because with our hydro seating, it will

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take us half the time um for the seed to

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take into transition than it would in

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our normal. Now, there is a cost

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associated with that. Um so that's why

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we're we're premature and just exploring

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those options. Um that touched on uh the

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aronomy team that we had out to take a

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look at our turf. Um it was not this

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last Friday but the Friday before. Um we

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had the Legacy Golf Aronomy team out.

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They took a look at our turf and made

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some recommendations as well as uh put

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us in contact with a few local

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professionals that'll uh help us for the

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next 365 days get our turf back on a a

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program that we'd like. Um the last key

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accomplishment that we have, we did have

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Turtle Park Playground was order um the

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installation of the project or of of the

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playground. it will start and the

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project should last from September 21st

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to October 2nd and that will be the

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final day for the playground

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installation.

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Um just to skip through and to touch on

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a few other uh small items. Um we did

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some work on the hilltop. Um as you can

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see in the trees, palms and rideway

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section, we had 71 trees uh that we took

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out of the hilltop. They were all dead

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trees. It cost the city approximately

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$50,000. Um, we did find 17 additional

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trees uh that were supposed to be

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relocated that have now transitioned

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into into either a dead state or a state

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to which it would not be worth us

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transitioning u transplanting those

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specimens. Sorry. Um, so we removed

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those additional 17 trees for a cost of

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$13,000. The remaining 107 fan palms at

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the hilltop, you guys may notice they

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have all been pruned. Um and

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moving on to fan pruning. Um that is

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also the last remaining palm pruning

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that we have through the city. The West

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Coast Arbor crew has been able to work

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through all 2400 palms with only about

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900 remaining. Uh they were on track to

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finish that by this week up until our

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storm activity here in the last two

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weeks. So I have supplemented West Coast

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Arbor with another arbor contractor. um

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they've provided us to get the storm

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cleaned up a lot faster, but then also

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getting arbor crews back onto our

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pruning schedule.

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Um

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uh we did treat all of the palms along

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Lichfield Road uh for termites. We had a

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large termite infestation in all of our

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palm trees there. Uh there were over 50

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palms along that area that were treated

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for termites.

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um all of the public grounds materials

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including um leftover materials,

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historical items including the organ

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from the band stand um the leftover

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turtles from parks and any just

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construction supplies have all been

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cleared from the hilltop. Um so we are

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now completely out of there. We are just

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uh we're set aside ready for

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construction to begin on the Hilltop

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Park.

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the [sighs]

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so I did have some premature figures on

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some storm response work you'll see in

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that section I am going to skip that

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because those were put in before

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anything that happened this week so none

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of that would ring relevant to now

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[gasps]

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um we in so far as active projects and

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our service going on we have begun phase

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two of the citywide painting it is

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actually scheduled to be complete um

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that was actually scheduled to be

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completed this week We're reming

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tomorrow morning to finish, but the only

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thing remaining left to be painted are

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the two monument signs along Indian

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School. So, you'll see at Indian School

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in Lichfield and Indian School in Daart.

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Right now, it is just blank and painted.

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Um, we were waiting for the iron

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lettering to come in, which will be

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mounted this week. Um, so that we can

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have it when we need to repaint it next

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time. Um, it's not just a sticker that

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goes over. We can just paint behind the

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lettering. Um, so that'll be installed

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here uh this week. Uh after phase two is

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complete with painting, we will look and

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begin a phase three citywide painting

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program that will address uh any

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remaining wall areas that we haven't hit

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yet, including DART.

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Um we did finalize and secure the Sage

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Brush Storage Lot from Lichfield

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Elementary. Um we created a green waste

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operating procedure and material

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separation. We've now been able to avoid

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taking any loads to the dump for two

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weeks straight now. Um it's been a

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significant efficiency gain for us and

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as well as a cost savings for the city.

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Um and those unfamiliar, we are we were

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renting the Sage Brush lot. We were

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calling it Sagebrush lot is that vacant

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um area behind the Lichfield Elementary

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School between the ball field. Um we

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were able to rent and secure that from

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the elementary school um in preparations

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for the new public works building

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potentially. Um but in the meantime

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without that initiative going forward

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we're use utilizing that lot as a

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storage and a operating area.

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>> How does that make you not have to go to

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the dump?

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>> Uh we call a contractor in to come and

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pick up Yep. And many contractors have

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negotiated with several nurseries uh con

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um landscape companies around they can

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dump their green waste for free. I

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unfortunately cannot. Um, so what I am

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looking at is a contractor who I can

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just pay time and labor. They will come,

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they'll grab it, and it saves me

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approximately an hour to two hours with

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one to two employees that no longer have

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to go to the dump at a cost of

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approximately anywhere from a hundred to

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$200 per trip. Um, so we've seen a

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significant savings and efficiency as

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well.

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[clears throat] Um the last part of our

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uh efficiency improvements for our

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service that we currently have um I have

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initiated I'm calling them regional

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discussions um but we have reached out

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to our adjacent partner in the city of

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Goodyear in regards to potentially

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adding us onto their street sweeping

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program and taking that off from our

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public grounds and parks team.

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Um, one thing that I will just briefly

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touch on with our facilities manager

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here, we did establish new cleaning

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procedures, uh, as well as a, uh,

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contractor for some of those services.

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Um, we have been trying to do some more

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citizen-f facing communication and

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management. Um, we've been trying to do

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our social media posts and communicating

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in both our pruning schedule, our storm

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cleanup efforts. Um, you may have also

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seen the street closures. Um, and with

541
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,679
that, did I say I said palm printing

542
00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:41,919
schedule? So, um, those are some of the

543
00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:43,280
initiatives, some of the projects that

544
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,640
we've been working on. I skipped through

545
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,559
some of them, but, uh, if there's any

546
00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:49,679
that I missed that you guys have any

547
00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:51,039
further questions on, please feel free

548
00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:53,919
to ask.

549
00:22:53,919 --> 00:22:55,520
>> You mentioned the communication on the

550
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,960
street closures.

551
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,400
>> Yes. And they did some of the street

552
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,520
refinishing a month ago.

553
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,320
>> Like there was zero communication

554
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,640
>> and I only knew to get my cars off the

555
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,840
street because I asked the guy that was

556
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,039
putting cones out.

557
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:09,360
>> Sure.

558
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:10,880
>> A lot of people reached out to me to ask

559
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,720
about that. I was just wondering how was

560
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,440
that communicated and how did I miss it?

561
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,960
>> No, I'm going to pause you guys there

562
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,799
because we're getting out of park from

563
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:19,280
Rick.

564
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,679
>> Sorry.

565
00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:22,640
>> So I know Kevin touched on this briefly.

566
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,480
>> I tried to stay high realm of street

567
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,880
things. We're gonna we're gonna bring it

568
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,919
back, but

569
00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:28,799
>> No problem. Thank you.

570
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:30,480
>> We'll get with you privately on that.

571
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,630
>> Okay,

572
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,440
» sir.

573
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,039
>> A question. I think you addressed it,

574
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:38,080
but just to make sure that I'm

575
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,320
understanding it correctly, right now,

576
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,880
like down old road, especially if we get

577
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,720
closer to the north side, the grass is

578
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,039
rather patchy. That's just because we

579
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,360
were late on killing off the ry grass

580
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,360
and the Bermuda

581
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,679
um is catching up to these spots or

582
00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:56,320
what's because that's the that's the big

583
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,520
question that I get. It's like, hey,

584
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,080
what's going on grass? What do what do I

585
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,880
tell folks?

586
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,240
>> Yeah. So, essentially years of not

587
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,200
killing the weeds that are in the grass

588
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840
have let the weeds out compete for the

589
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,120
grass that we do want growing.

590
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,320
>> Sounds like my backyard.

591
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,320
>> Exactly. Yeah. So, so when that weed

592
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,039
gets large and big, it once we kill it

593
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,120
or it's gone, it is now a bare spot. So,

594
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,400
yeah, if we would have started that

595
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,840
sooner, we would have given the Bermuda

596
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,520
a chance to fill those bare areas

597
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,440
sooner. They will still fill some of

598
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,200
those areas, but given that we only have

599
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,200
a 30-day window where the weather is

600
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,120
optimal for growing grass like that, and

601
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,720
then we're going to scalp it low and

602
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,640
kill it to start our ride transition.

603
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Um, those areas will be look more better

604
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,559
filled next year once we've done this

605
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:39,440
sustainably.

606
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,039
>> We're we're paying for it's deferred

607
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:42,320
maintenance. for paying off on that.

608
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,559
>> 100%. Yep. And I And that's why I put

609
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,240
this fiveweek transition plan together

610
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,080
for the city manager first because I go

611
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,080
it's going to look bad before it looks

612
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,159
good. So we we wanted to warn everybody.

613
00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:53,200
Yeah.

614
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,919
>> Thank you.

615
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:56,159
>> Yes.

616
00:24:56,159 --> 00:24:58,400
>> Quick, sorry, just a quick question. I

617
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,720
love the little turn lane into the

618
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,919
Thomas and all of that is new paint, but

619
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:06,640
just past that where the old turn lane

620
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,440
is to get on to Indian School is still

621
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760
really faded and hard to see. Is that

622
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240
going to get painted as well or is it

623
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,600
just going to be by the bright yellow

624
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,039
and then not really see where the turn

625
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:17,679
lane is?

626
00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:19,679
>> No. So, we are we're fortunate enough we

627
00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,600
just welcomed on our new streets

628
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,520
superintendent um Ed Edward and um we'll

629
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,360
be kind and bring him to our next

630
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,640
meeting so you guys can meet him as

631
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,679
well.

632
00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:30,880
>> Ask him these questions.

633
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960
>> Yes. Yes. Ed just started this Monday.

634
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,559
Um but we actually were fortunate enough

635
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,320
to get a streets tech. I believe it was

636
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,840
about three weeks ago that person

637
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,919
started. So, you may have seen I tried

638
00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:42,320
to stay away from some of those. But in

639
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,840
my report, I did have you know

640
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,320
repainting crosswalks and school zones.

641
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,159
Those were things that the public

642
00:25:48,159 --> 00:25:50,080
grounds team was assisting streets with

643
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,679
before our superintendent started. So,

644
00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:53,200
we're in that transition phase right

645
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,840
now. Um, but Ed is someone who came very

646
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,400
qualified from Scottsdale. Um, he 20

647
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,360
years in a municipality. Uh, he he very

648
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,520
much has a plan and has already been out

649
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,919
and getting. So, uh, that is a question

650
00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:07,600
I can definitely pass along to.

651
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,430
>> Thank you.

652
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,360
» Oh, go ahead.

653
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,600
Can you talk some about the recent storm

654
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,200
damage? I know we lost a number of

655
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,200
huge trees.

656
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,039
One here, one right out here.

657
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:28,480
Are we planning to replace them or or

658
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,760
you don't know? Tell me what the plan.

659
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,520
>> No. Yeah. So, I've gotten that question

660
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,840
10 times. Uh the statement that I've

661
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,919
been given permission to to hold to you.

662
00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:41,120
Um we we are in a process of measuring

663
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,720
the magnitude of what we've lost right

664
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,799
now. Um I don't even have a full count.

665
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,440
I don't even have a bill yet. Um so I

666
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,279
can tell you just in some of the figures

667
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,520
that we've put together prematurely um

668
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,679
we are looking at a significant loss.

669
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:57,919
And part of that loss is paying for um

670
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:00,320
you know the the the cost that we didn't

671
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,159
incur the first time. So, what you guys

672
00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:03,919
may have seen for a lot of our trees out

673
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:06,320
there was they they just went over at

674
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320
the roots and all of those roots were

675
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240
like your fingers spread. So, they

676
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,720
should have been down deep deep. And a

677
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,480
lot of what I'm seeing is the irrigation

678
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,039
systems here there's one line, one line

679
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:18,799
for the grass, one line for the shrubs,

680
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,640
one for the trees, one for the palms,

681
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,640
and those all four should be on separate

682
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,720
lines. They all measure different times,

683
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,960
different gallons per hour. Um, and so

684
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,799
the trees have been suffering. They've

685
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,799
been getting water to stay alive, but

686
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:32,240
they haven't been getting the water they

687
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,159
need to establish themselves and to stay

688
00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:36,400
grounded and rooted. So, there's a a

689
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,159
multitude of factors that we're

690
00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:40,000
including in this because the cost to go

691
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,240
back and put these trees also comes with

692
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,640
an infrastructure cost with the the

693
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,320
plumbing and the irrigation to go with

694
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320
it as well as the controllers that are

695
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,480
going to manage and allow us to to keep

696
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,559
them alive. So, what we've done is we've

697
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:53,679
already been in contact with the

698
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:55,919
landscape architect. We've already put

699
00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:57,840
together a few different presentation

700
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,720
ideas and we are going to look to sit in

701
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,039
front of you guys this next month with a

702
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:04,960
few options on what we think would be a

703
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,640
more sustainable idea for us to

704
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,880
transition and replant with um and more

705
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840
so with a game plan in mind as well as a

706
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,159
selection of tree species, plants, you

707
00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:16,720
know, shrub species and then irrigation

708
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,480
um standards that we think we want to

709
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,279
set going forward. So, we'll put um an

710
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,200
initial presentation of what we think

711
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,279
that package looks like as well as maybe

712
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,200
some preliminary costs and then we'll

713
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,559
put that presentation in front of you

714
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,799
guys hopefully to get some blessing and

715
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,399
some decisions so that we can put in

716
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:35,200
front of council for some funding.

717
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,360
>> I look forward to that. Thank you.

718
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,279
>> Yeah. No, and um as far as just

719
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,320
inventory goes, we do have Arbor Access

720
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,200
is the uh inventory system that West

721
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,200
Coast Arbor uses. as they are doing

722
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,720
their work right now, they are updating

723
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,120
that inventory. So, I have an idea on

724
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120
some of those figures. Um, but it's very

725
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,720
premature. But the great thing about

726
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,240
that system,

727
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,679
>> like to give you an idea, just one of

728
00:28:57,679 --> 00:29:00,240
these trees that we lost out here, that

729
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760
tree was valued at $10,000. So, it

730
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,760
didn't cost us $10,000 to take it out

731
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760
and to put a new one in. But, if we were

732
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,840
going to say try to replicate and put

733
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,600
that exact tree back, that is the value

734
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
that it had for the water and the oxygen

735
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520
and the carbon sequestering that it

736
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,399
does. So, um, we have a value to what we

737
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:20,399
have lost. We have a value to what it

738
00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:22,480
will cost. And then, um, we're going to

739
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,840
try to figure out the right way to put

740
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,919
it back. None of that will start

741
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,880
probably until October. Just looking for

742
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,240
the weather. Yeah.

743
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,480
>> You mentioned something about a GIS

744
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:34,880
track.

745
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,480
>> Oh, I I had that in here and I didn't

746
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320
>> I saw it in there a little bit.

747
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,720
>> Yeah. So, I I currently we had the whole

748
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,279
city is in GIS. Um, I have been working

749
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,200
with the city planner and we've really

750
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,960
just gotten anything that we were able

751
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,320
to have as a digital construction file

752
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,320
added onto our GIS. So, some of our

753
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,399
power lines, irrigation lines, that kind

754
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:56,399
of stuff. Um, but we're really looking

755
00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:58,880
to advance the GIS. So, we're looking to

756
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,799
get all the city's assets like park

757
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,360
benches and street lights and um

758
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,120
drinking fountains, trash cans,

759
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,679
everything down to the nuts and bolts

760
00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:09,919
essentially can be polygon and

761
00:30:09,919 --> 00:30:12,559
identified as a asset in GIS. And it's

762
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:15,919
satellite um driven so it's accurate and

763
00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:17,919
it's something that gives us um

764
00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:19,760
forecasts and projections without having

765
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,120
to leave our desk. You know, we can do

766
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520
measurements, we can do square footages,

767
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,360
um we can get counts and inventory,

768
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,720
stuff like that without leaving. So,

769
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,559
we've been fortunate enough that ASU has

770
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,279
an intern program in their GIS uh

771
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,520
department that we essentially can just

772
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,760
pay them at an intern rate um to to

773
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,919
continue on working with us. So, the the

774
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,760
first phase last year was us getting

775
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,159
into GIS, which we are now. We are now

776
00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:44,159
looking to advance and develop GIS more.

777
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:45,840
We want our our water meters on there.

778
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440
We want our valve boxes on there, our

779
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840
irrigation lines, as well as I'm

780
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,320
drawing. I'm they're called polygons,

781
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,080
but they're just shapes around the

782
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,679
landscape that we're responsible for

783
00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:57,279
maintaining. And it's something that my

784
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:59,679
guys, the contractor, anyone working,

785
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:01,279
they can see it on their phone and say,

786
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:02,880
"Yes, this is ours. Yes, this is

787
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,960
theirs." Um, and it's connected to the

788
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Maricopa County parcel assessors um

789
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480
website. So everything in there, it

790
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,240
shows you ownership. It shows you public

791
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,640
information on who owns the property to

792
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,000
their name, their phone number, their

793
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,760
email, everything. So, it's it's a

794
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,399
really robust system um that I've been

795
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:21,520
familiar and used in other

796
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,919
municipalities that our city planner

797
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:26,080
Randy has been fortunate enough to start

798
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,679
the process and we are just continuing

799
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:29,440
on with here now.

800
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840
>> And I know that' be tremendously

801
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
helpful to us as a commission. Maybe I

802
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,240
don't know if we can get access to the

803
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,919
actual software or whatever or even just

804
00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:40,559
have like a print out of the public

805
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,279
grounds and you know a list or or some

806
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:44,720
sort of map system.

807
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,399
>> Well, we were looking at an internal and

808
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:48,559
an external application something for

809
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,519
the public and something for us as well

810
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,000
on a daily operational sense. So, um

811
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,440
that is something because we are meeting

812
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,519
about this week. I can definitely ask at

813
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,240
what a a public facing GIS map looks

814
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,919
like so that you guys are able to see at

815
00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:03,600
least some of our basic functions off

816
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,399
the bat.

817
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:06,559
>> Just for the record, I mean we all know

818
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,760
but GIS stands for

819
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,559
>> geo informationational

820
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,320
satellite

821
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,000
system. Something like

822
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,679
>> that's what I thought it was.

823
00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:21,990
>> Yeah.

824
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760
» So are there any other questions?

825
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,039
>> Yeah. Go ahead, sir. back on the turf uh

826
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,039
restoration. I just want to say thanks

827
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,760
for making that a priority. I know I go

828
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,120
to Turtle Park a lot and there's a lot,

829
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,559
you know, the crab grass and stuff in

830
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,080
there. So, I appreciate you making that

831
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,799
a priority. Um at Turtle Park

832
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,720
specifically,

833
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,399
how is that being treated? Because I I

834
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:44,320
noticed like a little section kind of

835
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,320
between the goalposts is just like

836
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320
shaved down and more dead. And I was

837
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,279
wondering how you're treating it

838
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:49,919
differently. And

839
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:52,399
>> we um we we were just talking about that

840
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:54,159
before this meeting. Um, so Turtle was

841
00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:57,360
our last park. Um, I'm saying last and

842
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,960
first. We were trying to make a decision

843
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,720
at Turtle if we needed to keep going

844
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960
with spraying. We didn't, we knew we

845
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,320
weren't going to get all the leaves in

846
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,240
one treatment. Um, especially being this

847
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,240
late to the game. We wanted to see the

848
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,000
effects of spraying half of that turf

849
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000
and having in a test batch right in

850
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,840
front of us. Um, so we did half of the

851
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,360
turf and then we dropped the deck and

852
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,720
mowed it. We wanted to see how it

853
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,799
affected that turf and the weeds in it.

854
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,320
So you can see both halves are coming

855
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,399
back but there is a disparity between

856
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:23,919
them. Um

857
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,399
>> where is this a turtle turtle?

858
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:28,159
>> Uh and we tried to do it on the far end

859
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:29,919
so that it wasn't as noticeable from the

860
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:30,559
street.

861
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,360
>> Um but I will selfabilia is uh purely

862
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,679
scientific and research. Um we're just

863
00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:37,120
trying to get an idea of what's going to

864
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,480
target some of our nuts edge and our

865
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,159
crab grass some of our more aggressive

866
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:42,559
stuff. Um as well as mowing. And I will

867
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:44,960
say mowing at turtle alone um we dropped

868
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,799
the decks and we mowed in a crisscross

869
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,200
pattern. We had great results from that

870
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,760
alone without the herbicide. So, um,

871
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840
we're we're very focused on it. I think

872
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,799
we are finally getting support which may

873
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,399
have not always been there before, which

874
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:00,720
is allowing us to put more funding and

875
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,519
resources.

876
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:02,000
>> That's great.

877
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,919
>> We figured out that Kristoff and I know

878
00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,039
we need that for

879
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,679
>> I'm I mean with the golf, right?

880
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,520
>> I mean with the golf course on Tuesday.

881
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,280
Listen, information is knowledge. So,

882
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,560
I'm just trying to collect as much as I

883
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,320
can and I'm happy to to share with you

884
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,990
guys easily.

885
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,990
Does anybody have any other questions?

886
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:54,869
Thank you very much. So you

887
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:58,560
So, it is it is my honor to introduce

888
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,160
facilities manager Chris Scott.

889
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,079
>> Welcome, Sarah.

890
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:08,950
>> Thanks for having me.

891
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,119
So, uh, I am the facilities new

892
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,359
facilities manager for the city park.

893
00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:14,880
Um, I guess the first one they've ever

894
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,960
had. So, um, the bar set pretty low. Um,

895
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,760
so I've been here about four months now.

896
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,040
Um, it's been quite an experience so

897
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:31,520
far. Um, a lot of catchup, a lot of uh, asset assessment um, with the

898
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,119
buildings and um, sorry and everything

899
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,960
uh, in between. So, um I know the

900
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,079
drinking fountains are a high priority.

901
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,440
Um I have done a lot of research um

902
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,599
looking at those and uh we've had some

903
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:52,160
cclick fix requests for new ones. Um, so

904
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480
I've done again a lot of work, a lot of

905
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,079
research and and work with Paige, our uh

906
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:59,920
assistant city manager, trying to come

907
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,040
up with a strategy um you know a cost

908
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,599
assessment what it would take to um

909
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,359
basically replace them all all these

910
00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:09,599
parks. So, um it's it's going to be more

911
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,599
of a phase situation for these because

912
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,720
of the price, but um

913
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:18,400
I I I think that working with you, um

914
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,320
would would would help me tremendously

915
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,520
because I I think there's so many

916
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,140
different options out there.

917
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:24,400
[clears throat] Excuse me. And I think

918
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,560
everyone wants something different just

919
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,720
based off, you know, the feedback that

920
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,320
I've gotten from, you know, the citizens

921
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,720
and everything. So, um that is one of my

922
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,119
top priorities right now. Um the

923
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,760
restrooms in general need some uh

924
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640
attention. Uh Kevin and I have worked on

925
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,160
the painting on the phases. Um we're

926
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,880
looking at uh well I'm looking at doing

927
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,240
some new painting on those um and some

928
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,400
work inside the restrooms with maybe

929
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,079
some updates. Um we haven't moved to the

930
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,599
any of the lighting. I think that's

931
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,839
something that's needs to be looked at.

932
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:02,800
Some of the Romanas looks pretty old.

933
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Um, and again, I've done quite a few

934
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,000
ride alongs with Kevin and just uh we

935
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,440
talked about several things that that

936
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,560
need to be done um with these parks. Um

937
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,800
just a lot of neglect, I think, over the

938
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,520
years. So, um these are some of my

939
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,800
goals, you know, within the next year um

940
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,560
to accomplish. So, um, you know, you're

941
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,000
welcome to reach out to me, you know,

942
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,520
via email, call me, whatever. Um, and we

943
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,240
can we can work through this,

944
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,760
try to get these things looking better.

945
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,320
I know Kevin's busting his butt trying

946
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,000
to get these things looking good and and

947
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,560
updated. So, I'm going to, you know, do

948
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,000
my part and, you know, same thing, do

949
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,040
some restoration.

950
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,470
Any questions?

951
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,720
» Start for you, sir.

952
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,079
We are also new to having a facilities

953
00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,599
manager.

954
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,680
>> What does that entail?

955
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,880
>> Yeah. I mean, you were talking about

956
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200
parks, which is not what I was thinking.

957
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960
>> Well, it's kind of

958
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,880
>> I play a part in that with the actual

959
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,200
facilities in the parks. Um, you know,

960
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,320
plumbing, electrical. Um, mainly I take

961
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,400
care of the facility buildings, this

962
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000
building, rec center, um, the new works,

963
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,960
city hall, new library. So I handle

964
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,359
everything with with those buildings,

965
00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:27,200
you know, anything from, you know,

966
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,839
structural again, plumbing, electrical,

967
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:32,640
HVAC, all that stuff. Any uh you know,

968
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,160
updates, um remodels.

969
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,160
So that's what I handle.

970
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,720
>> Maybe like the romas at the parks would

971
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,960
be sports sports courts. Would that fall

972
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,200
into your as a facility?

973
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,280
>> Um

974
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,599
don't really know. I know we've worked

975
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:50,880
again him and I have worked together

976
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,560
trying to figure some of that out. Our

977
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,640
roles are still a little bit kind of we

978
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,720
mesh, you know, because we're new,

979
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,599
right? So, um, but we worked together on

980
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:00,880
trying to come up with some ideas. Like

981
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
I said, I know the lighting has been an

982
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,599
issue. Believe it Aleppo was one that

983
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,359
has been complained about.

984
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:09,119
>> Yeah. Um, so we're looking at maybe

985
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,359
doing some, you know, an upgrade on the

986
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:13,119
LEDs over there

987
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,000
>> and um, you know, get some better get

988
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,400
some better photo

989
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,680
sensors in there and and just um, you

990
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,520
know, just try to handle what what needs

991
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,200
to be handled over there.

992
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,599
>> Yeah,

993
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,320
>> we we got the uh, turtle park. We got

994
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,400
the the new um, sewer line run over

995
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,440
there. um May. That was was quite the

996
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,400
ordeal, but uh you know, got that

997
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,640
handled. Um so again, we're looking at

998
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560
we're assessing all this stuff, you

999
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,079
know, to see what needs to be updated

1000
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:47,839
and and uh better maintained.

1001
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:52,800
So I do play a part in parks with the actual restroom facilities.

1002
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,119
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's good to know.

1003
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,119
>> Any other questions?

1004
00:39:59,119 --> 00:39:59,839
>> Welcome.

1005
00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:00,240
>> Thank you.

1006
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:00,880
>> Welcome.

1007
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
>> Thank you. glad to have you.

1008
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,119
>> So, we probably won't put Chris on the

1009
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,040
spot every month to come out and report

1010
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,079
to you guys, but as he has those kind of

1011
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:11,599
projects that he's working on that

1012
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,960
affect recreation and public grounds, um

1013
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,119
we can certainly same way we do with

1014
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,800
Randy um come in and on specific topics

1015
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,359
come in and report to you guys. So for

1016
00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:25,839
instance the the water fountains once

1017
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:28,000
something uh comes to fruition with that

1018
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,079
he'll probably come back and and share

1019
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,960
that information with you goddess. Um so

1020
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,200
project by project that affect your

1021
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,000
commission

1022
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
>> and we Chris and I work hand inand on

1023
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,839
everything and somebody I think

1024
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,839
described it to us as uh Chris takes

1025
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:43,440
care of inside the house and I take care

1026
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,200
of the the yard outside. Uh but we'll be

1027
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,359
working on projects like through old

1028
00:40:49,359 --> 00:40:51,040
Lichfield Square where we've already had

1029
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040
an electrician come out and we're

1030
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,280
looking to connect the inground lighting

1031
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,480
at LS Square to the palms along Old

1032
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,720
Litfield and in the roundabout. So

1033
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,480
that's a project that we were working on

1034
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,319
together hand in hand. It's parks, it's

1035
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:05,920
landscape, it's electrical, it's

1036
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,480
facilities. Um so Chris and I have a lot

1037
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,710
of those projects together.

1038
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:14,319
» Well, thank you and welcome again, sir.

1039
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:24,550
Appreciate it. Thank you very much.

1040
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,800
» Opportunities for improvement. Presenter

1041
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,119
Trisha Kramer, community and recreation

1042
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,040
services director.

1043
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,640
>> Uh thank you, Chairman Teddy and

1044
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,000
Commissioners. Um I don't think we had

1045
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,359
too much at our last meeting. Uh,

1046
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:42,000
Commissioner Gordono had a couple of

1047
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160
recommendations uh to pass along to

1048
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,240
streets and was going to put something

1049
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:52,319
through our uh uh engage LP app. I don't

1050
00:41:52,319 --> 00:41:53,839
know if she did not,

1051
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:55,359
>> but she but I will.

1052
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:58,480
>> Yes. Um, other than that, if you have

1053
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,720
any new opportunities that you wanted to

1054
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,160
discuss with us or any old business with

1055
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560
respect to that, we'll certainly we'll

1056
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,240
address them or pass them on.

1057
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,560
>> Sure. Um, are there any trends that

1058
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,839
you're seeing in what people are

1059
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:15,839
reporting that would be good for us to

1060
00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:16,720
be aware of?

1061
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:21,030
>> Storm damage.

1062
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,480
Besides storm damage,

1063
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,760
>> um

1064
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,680
>> do you have any do are you getting any?

1065
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,319
>> Um I think we're seeing a lot of

1066
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:31,520
irrigation call outs to make sure that

1067
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,280
>> that has been the most beneficial for

1068
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,520
me. Um it's just not losing track of

1069
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,119
anything and as soon as somebody sees

1070
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,599
it, boom, we get it. Our uncalled guy

1071
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,000
can be here in less than 30 minutes. And

1072
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,680
we've I think we've already done just

1073
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,119
this week because the trees fallen on

1074
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,440
them, we've done five um where we found

1075
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,240
after hours irrigation leaks, but then

1076
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,359
um the the trees falling down has been

1077
00:42:53,359 --> 00:42:55,680
great because I scheduled them starting

1078
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,599
Monday and now I'm working my way

1079
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,359
backwards, you know, with the people who

1080
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:01,040
have reported Monday. But we've we've

1081
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,319
closed almost all of them out. We've

1082
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:05,040
closed 50% of our in LP tickets out from

1083
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,760
Monday. And that's just helped us track

1084
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
each and individual instance of either a

1085
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,920
leak or a tree and we haven't lost track

1086
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,760
of any. So that's that's been good. And

1087
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,119
we're not getting late calls like this

1088
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:16,560
thing's been here for two weeks and you

1089
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,880
guys forgot about me. If you reported

1090
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,560
it, it's in the system and we're coming

1091
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,319
to you and it's scheduled and we have a

1092
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,359
date and a time and so um irrigation and

1093
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:31,990
just fallen and damaged properties to

1094
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,079
Yep.

1095
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:35,680
>> So, don't forget to record it because it

1096
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,560
could have been I know. I know. The

1097
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,760
light call in. Our administrative

1098
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,440
assistants have been kind enough to

1099
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,880
enter those requests for you.

1100
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,720
>> Excellent. No, I can do it. I have it. I

1101
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,000
just want to get a picture of it. It's a

1102
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,440
light over by the pond.

1103
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,960
>> Perfect. And we we're doing the street

1104
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,640
lights, too. So, if you see an SRP

1105
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,400
street light out, send it to us. We'll

1106
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,920
send it to SRP even. Yeah.

1107
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,599
Well, I think Kevin and Chris are both

1108
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,040
doing great at efficiencies and

1109
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,599
opportunities for improvement that I

1110
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,640
don't have a ton to add, but I would I

1111
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,359
do want to just mention

1112
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:15,440
all of the along the uh Noeva, all of

1113
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,079
that grass that is public land with like

1114
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:19,839
the rolling hills. Yes,

1115
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:22,240
>> that seems probably like the biggest

1116
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,839
opportunity in the city where I mean we

1117
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:27,839
should really either

1118
00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:29,839
tell the public that it's available for

1119
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:32,000
them to use

1120
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,280
or tear out the grass and put rocks in,

1121
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,520
you know, instead of because it's

1122
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,119
usually has really beautiful grass

1123
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:40,560
there, but we're also not telling the

1124
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960
public they can use it as a park. kind

1125
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,640
of seems like a median or it used to be

1126
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,680
private property of the HOA 15 years

1127
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
ago, something like that.

1128
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,599
So now we've talked about this once or

1129
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,440
twice over the years, but

1130
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,200
>> seems like something that would be good

1131
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,640
to to push forward. U so that would be

1132
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,480
in my presentation for you guys here in

1133
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,400
30 days when we get together. Um but

1134
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,160
yeah, I would love to you guys to help

1135
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,400
me identify what you would prioritize as

1136
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960
top priority areas. My personal opinion,

1137
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,680
that one is up there. I think the

1138
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,880
>> oddshaped medians that are in weird

1139
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,480
distance. Yeah, those would be maybe

1140
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,200
some of my firsts, but um we're we're I

1141
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,800
think all on the same page for that. The

1142
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,839
non-program programmable recreational

1143
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:28,000
areas. So, and if it is a recreational

1144
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,560
area or it can somewhat be used as that,

1145
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,440
we should use it or provide amenities

1146
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,960
for such. Yeah,

1147
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,880
>> it's used as like a dog walking area.

1148
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,960
You know, we could even just put a sign

1149
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,040
up to identif give it a name. We call it

1150
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,280
the hills. The guys call that the hills.

1151
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Um but you know, that doesn't mean

1152
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,280
anything. It's not really a place. So,

1153
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,280
yeah, to to designate it as something

1154
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,079
and give it just one amenity, a sign or

1155
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,359
a dog station. Yeah. So, um that is a

1156
00:45:57,359 --> 00:45:58,880
great idea and something that we'll look

1157
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,920
to put for you guys to give us

1158
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:00,720
direction.

1159
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,400
>> Yeah. Really just something to tell the

1160
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,480
public that it's there for them to use.

1161
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,880
>> Absolutely. Yeah. No. And it's um it's

1162
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,640
in a good area and I see someone every

1163
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,160
morning they park their car right there

1164
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,839
and they walk their dog or run it. I

1165
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:12,560
don't know what they're doing but

1166
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,960
they're using it. So yeah. Awesome.

1167
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,040
I have two super quick ones. One um and

1168
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,119
I I'm imagining this fits into this

1169
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,119
category. If it doesn't, please stop.

1170
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,760
But one is a tree on the north side of

1171
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Luma. It looks like it's right about to

1172
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640
die and probably needs to just go. And

1173
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,480
the other one is a bigger question. Um,

1174
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,880
have have are there islands around the

1175
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,200
city that have already been marked for

1176
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400
transition to zero escape or are those

1177
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,119
islands just for whatever reason not

1178
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,280
growing grass the way that they maybe

1179
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,599
once did or does this relate back to

1180
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,599
what you were saying a minute ago where

1181
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,760
you're kind of watching grass where it

1182
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,760
needs to be transitioned now for the

1183
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,640
fall and maybe just doing that kind of a

1184
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,599
big question there. Sorry.

1185
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:03,520
>> No. Yeah, broader statement and I've

1186
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,440
touched a little bit on it all. I think

1187
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,960
what you're referring to are some of the

1188
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,839
medians that have like a grayish white

1189
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:11,920
looking turf. And if that doesn't sound

1190
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,920
familiar, go to the areas

1191
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,760
um

1192
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,319
all through Loma, all through 119 112

1193
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,720
where there's uh Compa is an area that

1194
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,440
comes to mind. So that has pine needles

1195
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,319
that were covering the surface. It had

1196
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:31,839
weeds and crab grass that were growing

1197
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:33,440
through. Then we grew the ry grass.

1198
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,440
Well, when I came here in April, the

1199
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,599
water was still going crazy and the guys

1200
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,839
were still keeping the ryrass alive. So,

1201
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:43,119
in all of those combinations, we weren't

1202
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,839
letting Bermuda go. Now, if you over

1203
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:49,280
years let different um

1204
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,599
different compounds take up the soil,

1205
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,520
you would want to replenish that Bermuda

1206
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,359
with some seed. Now, from my

1207
00:47:55,359 --> 00:47:57,200
understanding, those islands that you

1208
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,800
guys are talking about specifically that

1209
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,400
looked like we were marking and killing

1210
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,319
them, they're still getting water. There

1211
00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:04,319
is just no Bermuda grass in them

1212
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:07,359
growing. So, what I had come to learn is

1213
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:10,240
in this last year, those were last

1214
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,119
priority. When it came to fertilizing,

1215
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:14,720
when it came to a when it came to

1216
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,760
transitioning, we just skipped those

1217
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,240
because the budget, the time, the re I

1218
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,400
don't know the exact reason. I wasn't

1219
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,760
here for that history, but I just

1220
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,280
understand that they were neglected.

1221
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,559
They were not prioritized as being kept

1222
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,319
up. Um, and I don't know if it was

1223
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:32,240
because of the turf or not. Um, but

1224
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,599
there are some areas where I'm noticing

1225
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:36,000
there's just no grass left. Um, those

1226
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
would be areas where we would identify

1227
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,680
them as zercape where we would like to

1228
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,280
try and convert them, especially some of

1229
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,720
the ones that have already lost their

1230
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,720
large established trees. Um but the

1231
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,400
landscape architect that we are meeting

1232
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,720
with in our zercape conversions is

1233
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,200
taking into consideration uh keeping

1234
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,119
those wellestablished trees that have

1235
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:54,880
been there already for 50 years. So we

1236
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,520
haven't marked anything yet. The gray or

1237
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,000
whitish looking grass. If you walk up to

1238
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,520
it, you'll notice it was just like this

1239
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,079
in front of Papa's and like Park Cafe up

1240
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,440
until about a week ago. You can see the south end is starting to come back

1241
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680
and it's slowly moving its way north.

1242
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,200
But what you would see is if you would

1243
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,119
scratch your fingers along the surface,

1244
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,040
it was just the dead rye or dead grass

1245
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,720
that we had killed out and it was

1246
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:18,880
suffocating the surface from any Bermuda

1247
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,880
actually popping and coming through. Um,

1248
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,160
so there's a few different techniques

1249
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,680
that we would be able to do to do that.

1250
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,680
We're we're just too late now. So, we're

1251
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,520
not going to do anything with those. Our

1252
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,960
only option would be maybe paint them

1253
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040
green, which a few citizens have

1254
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,599
proposed to us. Um, but we are so close

1255
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,440
to our transition to winter grass that

1256
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
we'll just look to address it then and

1257
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,760
then be prepared come March and April

1258
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,720
next year.

1259
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,280
>> Copy that. So, if if there is a

1260
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,480
long-term plan on on converting to zero

1261
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,960
skate, will the neighborhoods know in

1262
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,119
advance and maybe get a chance for some

1263
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,440
input on that? Um what we were planning

1264
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,599
to do in the council meeting where we

1265
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,160
did present this and hopefully some um

1266
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,280
pointed direction from you guys was a

1267
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,960
work study and just looking to get some

1268
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,640
feedback from either the public or the

1269
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,720
council and get a little bit of that

1270
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,880
either how they want it communicated or

1271
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,720
just some of the communication that has

1272
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,720
to be a part of this plan. Um, that's

1273
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,480
our intention for next month when we

1274
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,440
present

1275
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,839
>> the LA and I'll invite everybody else on

1276
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,680
the commission to chime in on this, but

1277
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,960
the last time we talked about

1278
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,280
zeroscaping, it was not received

1279
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,079
um I don't know exactly what it was not

1280
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,400
received super well,

1281
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,079
which you probably already experienced.

1282
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,160
I brought that up in my interview and it

1283
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,599
was a lot of unsettled eyes and people

1284
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:41,359
looking around as well. And um recently

1285
00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:43,119
it's been brought up a lot and not only

1286
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,000
by myself but [snorts] citizens, our

1287
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,240
management and our council. I was

1288
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,760
stopped at the opening of the library by

1289
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,359
one of our council members who wanted to

1290
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:53,599
talk nothing but zercape and turf

1291
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:56,559
conversion. So it's it's an interest.

1292
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:58,079
They're very much talking about it right

1293
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:01,200
now. And with sustainability being the

1294
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
overall umbrella conversation that we

1295
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,520
need to have with the trees and the

1296
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,200
landscaping and the irrigation that have

1297
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,040
just all come down, uh this is our

1298
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,599
window to talk about it. Um I'm

1299
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:15,280
preparing for the the debate, if you

1300
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,839
will. Um the landscape landscape

1301
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:19,280
architect that we have been working

1302
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,680
with, he already has presented to

1303
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
several municipalities and councils on

1304
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,839
uh turf conversion and zercape. and we

1305
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:29,359
have a whole presentation put together.

1306
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:30,960
So, I'll I'll be happy to have him come

1307
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,400
in and speak with you guys and you can

1308
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,319
see his presentation as well. Um, but

1309
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:35,839
we're in the preliminary phases of

1310
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:38,640
putting that all together right now.

1311
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,319
>> Yes, sir. Maybe add on to what

1312
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,400
Commissioner Faith had said about the

1313
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,440
hills as it relates to this where if we

1314
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,359
have to choose where we could have grass

1315
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,119
because we're limited near irrigation,

1316
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:50,880
let's use it in places it's getting

1317
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,119
used, not as much looked at, which we

1318
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,119
all love looking at. And I'd love

1319
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:56,960
everything to be green, but we can't do

1320
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,520
it

1321
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,240
>> 100%. And I think you guys have a great

1322
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,400
um test pilot or platform where if you

1323
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,800
go into the Loma area, a lot of those

1324
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,319
medians, I'm not sure if they were

1325
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:07,920
originally turf or not, but they have

1326
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,400
already been converted to a zircape type

1327
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,040
of landscape. It's just granite with um

1328
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,720
you know, water tolerant plants. And

1329
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,040
that's you know, people hear zircape and

1330
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,800
it has different meanings to everybody,

1331
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,640
but that's in our presentation something

1332
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,720
that we want to help just clarify and

1333
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,359
define for people. Um, so and and with

1334
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:26,880
turf, you know, a lot of people see it

1335
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,200
as an asset. You can recreate on it, you

1336
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,800
can play on it. We don't want the

1337
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,800
perception for the citizens to seem like

1338
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,240
we are taking something from them

1339
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,240
without them gaining something back. Um,

1340
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,520
so that's something that we're putting

1341
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:44,309
together in our presentation as well.

1342
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:46,240
I've always wondered if there's a way to

1343
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:49,359
quantify it like the like a like a price

1344
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:53,359
per square foot of like a zeroscape

1345
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:56,720
versus like grass. And I always thought

1346
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,760
that if we had that number then perhaps

1347
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,040
it would open a lot more minds to the

1348
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,359
conversion. But just throwing it out

1349
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:07,200
there. I have them and I'll give it to

1350
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520
you guys. Right on. I will get you guys

1351
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,160
the figures.

1352
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,319
If you use water rights a driver of that

1353
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:16,400
too

1354
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,520
lose water or you're going to lose

1355
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,240
eventually [clears throat]

1356
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,400
there's a lot of calculations and and we

1357
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,000
were able to secure a lot of grant

1358
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,240
funding um in the city of Peoria we

1359
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,680
secured over um

1360
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,400
I want to say it was $4 million but to

1361
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,559
do citywide turf conversion in our

1362
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,440
non-programmable recreation parks. So

1363
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,040
wow, all of our neighborhood parks, you

1364
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,559
know, like Turtle, all that, we

1365
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:41,520
identified areas that were

1366
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,359
non-programmable that we couldn't use or

1367
00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:45,839
put sports on, and we received money in

1368
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:47,839
a grant to take that out and convert it.

1369
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:49,359
>> Is that federal or state?

1370
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:51,680
>> Uh I'm not just another

1371
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,760
>> it was called the WIFA grant. I I want

1372
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,760
to say that it was a state grant. Uh we

1373
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,440
did it now three years ago. I can't

1374
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,119
remember specifically. Um but they turf

1375
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,119
conversion, switching to smart

1376
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:04,800
irrigation controllers, those type of

1377
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,760
programs and uh grants are out there. So

1378
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,200
um if that's something that we do end up

1379
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,880
going and funding finance becomes

1380
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,079
something that keeps us from getting

1381
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,319
there, um there's programs out there for

1382
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:17,599
us. Right on. Well, thank you for all of

1383
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,920
that. Are there any other questions? I'm

1384
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,800
sorry.

1385
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,960
>> I don't have any.

1386
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:32,390
>> Okay.

1387
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,760
Next, uh, business approval of minutes.

1388
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,760
Presenter Trisha Kramer, Community and

1389
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,079
Recreation Services Director.

1390
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:41,440
>> Thank you, Chairman Teddy and

1391
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,079
Commissioners. Uh the minutes from the

1392
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,040
June 11th meeting are in your agenda

1393
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,640
packets

1394
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,599
and uh I will leave it to you whether

1395
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:55,280
you'd like to uh um move to approve or

1396
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,520
if you have any recommendations for

1397
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:17,750
corre or corrections.

1398
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,040
Move to approve.

1399
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,760
>> Second.

1400
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,559
>> Are there any questions?

1401
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:28,960
All in favor say I. I. All oppose.

1402
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,960
>> The eyes have it.

1403
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,440
>> Thank you, commissioners.

1404
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,480
Now, this next section is where I think

1405
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,200
we're going to we we had discussed

1406
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,720
moving.

1407
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:49,599
Was it was it D moving up into the B slot? Is that what you were

1408
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:50,079
thinking?

1409
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,640
>> I think we first have the elementary

1410
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,720
school access item or maybe not.

1411
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:59,599
>> Yeah, I think we've um let's do B and

1412
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:02,319
then we'll skip to D.

1413
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,359
Copy that. Public access to Lichfield

1414
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:08,559
Elementary School playground courts and

1415
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:10,079
fields.

1416
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,079
Presenter Trisha Kramer, community and

1417
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,559
recreation services director. This is

1418
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,280
information only. We requested an update

1419
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,000
um based on previous discussions about

1420
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,960
incorporating their facilities, LED's

1421
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,559
facilities into our programming.

1422
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:27,440
>> Uh thank you, [clears throat] Chairman

1423
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,880
Tatty and Commissioners. Uh yes, as of

1424
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,799
uh Monday the 3 uh first day of school,

1425
00:56:34,799 --> 00:56:37,440
we did hear back from uh the new

1426
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,559
facilities coordinator for uh Lichfield

1427
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:43,040
Elementary School District um who

1428
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,400
confirmed to Pat that um the gates at

1429
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,960
least will be unlocked after school on

1430
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,200
weekdays and open during the weekends

1431
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,480
for community as access to the courts

1432
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,599
and the playgrounds. Um, so that should

1433
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:00,799
be in place. Please, um, Pat and I will

1434
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:02,400
check. I don't think we did not have a

1435
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,000
chance, uh, so far, but we will check to

1436
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,240
see that that's happening. Feel free to

1437
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,559
do that as well, so that we can, uh,

1438
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:12,480
continue that conversation with them as

1439
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,000
needed and put it out to the community

1440
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,280
um, once we know for sure that it's

1441
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,760
happening as stated so that they're

1442
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,920
aware and can take advantage of that.

1443
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,359
>> That's great. Thank you.

1444
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:25,520
>> That is awesome. Yeah. And to to go back

1445
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,599
to the original question why we asked

1446
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:28,960
there people that live there but have

1447
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,720
small kids that look at a playground

1448
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,480
they can't go to that's just sitting

1449
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,359
there. Right. So it's awesome that'll

1450
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:37,119
allow open that up to the public.

1451
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:38,799
>> Thank you guys.

1452
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:40,880
>> Trisha which gates do you know which

1453
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,200
gates will be open or

1454
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,559
>> um it should be the so the cafeteria

1455
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:49,440
right when where the bus is. It should

1456
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,440
be that gate that's right there, right

1457
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,839
next to the playground. And then on the

1458
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,960
other side, it should be

1459
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,280
uh

1460
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,040
the gate that's right by the first field

1461
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,319
by the building, closest to the

1462
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,240
building. There's a there's the gate

1463
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,000
should be right there. So, it should be

1464
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,319
on those two sides. So, one on the

1465
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:11,760
closer to the basketball courts, one by

1466
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,119
the playground.

1467
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:14,160
>> Nice.

1468
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,319
>> Can you say again when that should be

1469
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:18,960
open? should already be in effect

1470
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,319
>> like after school and on the weekends.

1471
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:23,760
It's supposed to remain open to the

1472
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,079
public

1473
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:26,000
>> until sundown.

1474
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,480
>> Um

1475
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,200
>> basically, right?

1476
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:29,680
>> For sure.

1477
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,359
>> Said she didn't say they should be open

1478
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:33,440
after hours, but I can confirm that.

1479
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,920
>> Morning.

1480
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,280
>> I would think those kids early.

1481
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,400
>> Yeah.

1482
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,160
And weekdays, I don't know. I think they

1483
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,720
might lock a weekends. They might leave

1484
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,119
it open since

1485
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:49,359
um

1486
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:50,480
>> we'll get clarification.

1487
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,599
>> I'll get clarification.

1488
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:53,280
>> It'll be good to do some I don't know

1489
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,520
some sort of public awareness.

1490
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,040
>> We have a city new pure person.

1491
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,760
>> Yeah.

1492
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,240
>> Right.

1493
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,760
>> We're going to make sure it's in effect

1494
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,240
before we go telling all the residents

1495
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,040
to enjoy that

1496
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,160
>> before take it away again, you know.

1497
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,079
>> Yeah.

1498
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,240
>> Well, that's very exciting. Yeah, thank

1499
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,920
you for that.

1500
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,400
>> So, I believe we're now gonna This is

1501
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,680
where we're skipping, right? We're going

1502
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,280
to go to D. We're going to We're going

1503
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,680
to go into the action slash comment

1504
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,880
field lighting for sports presenter

1505
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,920
commissioner Kristoff Girtz.

1506
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,079
>> Thank you. Um, so I mean obviously you

1507
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:36,160
know the title of the subject. I wanted

1508
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,839
to start with something that's no shock

1509
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:39,760
to anybody here, which is it's hot in

1510
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
the summer and the sun's out late. When

1511
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,480
it's nice in the winter, the sun goes

1512
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,680
down early. That translates to our best

1513
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,760
weather months where kids can play

1514
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,559
outside, November to February, have an

1515
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:55,119
early sunset, which means after school

1516
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:56,960
time, there's a limited time to go play

1517
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,520
outside before it's dark. We have some

1518
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,440
nice months where there's a good balance

1519
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,119
between sunlight that's available and

1520
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:04,880
the temperature outside to play. Say

1521
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,880
March, April, October, sort of the the

1522
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,880
shoulder months if you will. And then in

1523
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,880
May and September, as we know, right now

1524
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,760
it's pretty hot and a lot of kids that

1525
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,079
go play or teams that practice try to

1526
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:18,640
push until later the day or cancel

1527
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,680
because of heat advisories. We recognize

1528
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,160
this need by having litfields in the

1529
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,920
city and around. So in the city we have

1530
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,760
a direct rec center with basketball,

1531
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,240
tennis, pickle ball. Um we have Jackie

1532
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,559
Robinson Field that's lit. The children

1533
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:34,160
elementary school while it's private and

1534
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,760
now open more. I don't expect the lights

1535
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,839
to be on after school. Um does have lit

1536
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:39,520
baseball. The wave bomb has lit tennis

1537
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,079
and lit pickle ball and we're not a

1538
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,240
cloistered city. We welcome others to

1539
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,599
participate in our parks as we

1540
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,520
participate in theirs. So very close to

1541
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,559
us um at right next to Millennium High

1542
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,720
School. So a quarter of a mile from

1543
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Lichfield Park city boundaries, you've

1544
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,799
have two lit baseball fields, lit

1545
01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:00,000
volleyball, lit basketball, a tenth of a

1546
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,000
mile that direction outside the city

1547
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,760
boundaries. We have lit tennis, lit

1548
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,680
pickle ball, lit baseball, lit

1549
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,920
basketball, lit volleyball among other

1550
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,760
things like skateboarding. So a lot of

1551
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,160
lit activities. You'll notice what I

1552
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,240
haven't mentioned, general purpose

1553
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,880
fields that are lit. So if you want to

1554
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,040
play flag football, football, soccer,

1555
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,760
lacrosse, any of those things, the

1556
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,480
closest place that's lit that's publicly

1557
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,440
accessible is Friendship Park. If you've

1558
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,160
ever been there, it is booked.

1559
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:32,720
>> Yep.

1560
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,440
>> And packed

1561
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,160
>> packed

1562
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,559
>> all of the time. So we have a huge

1563
01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:39,040
demand. We have people I know people and

1564
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,720
I've done it that have driven out to

1565
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,480
Sundance Park if anybody knows where

1566
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,880
that is in Buckey which is a beautiful

1567
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,559
park by the way if you've not seen it.

1568
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,359
is a revelation is very nicely

1569
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:51,200
planned. I love it. I wish I could pick

1570
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,319
it up. We still don't have the land for

1571
01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:53,839
it. Right. This is not going to happen.

1572
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:55,359
We don't have the land for it. Right.

1573
01:01:55,359 --> 01:01:57,167
But but this is a bit this is my

1574
01:01:57,167 --> 01:01:58,880
[snorts] observation. It's anecdotal. So

1575
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,480
I wanted to pass something around here.

1576
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,839
So I did a little one two three four

1577
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:06,240
five and I'll need one. And I think

1578
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,680
that's all those students have familiar

1579
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,280
with. There's one left if you guys would

1580
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,720
like I'm not sure. Um there's a an

1581
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,960
organization called the Aspen Institute

1582
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,480
that does a state of play study and this

1583
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,280
is their 2025 study of state of play. So

1584
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,280
if you want to start on the side that's

1585
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,079
horizontal a landscape oriented. These

1586
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:29,119
are screenshots right off the size page.

1587
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:31,359
Um they've got age groups there. So they

1588
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:34,880
do a survey for 6 to 12 and then 13 to

1589
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,160
17. And what I draw your attention to is

1590
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,359
the right to most columns which are the

1591
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:44,079
percentage of children who participate

1592
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,799
in a given sport on a regular basis and

1593
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:49,119
then the five-year delta. So the change

1594
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:52,640
from the 2019 study. The unfortunate

1595
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,880
thing you might see is well one that

1596
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,319
they're the columns aren't going to add

1597
01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:58,319
up to 100% because not every child

1598
01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:00,960
participates in the sport regularly. Um

1599
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,559
if you were to add them up though you

1600
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,359
would see that from 2014 until today

1601
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:07,680
there's an overall decrease generally

1602
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,400
speaking of children that are

1603
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,720
participating in sports. So obviously we

1604
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,559
want to be a part of making that go the

1605
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:17,039
other direction. This is interesting but

1606
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,440
it's not in it's not super useful in the

1607
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,119
discussion on time to drive. and we turn

1608
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:23,039
over to the other side. I've taken the

1609
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:24,960
liberty of at least aggregating the data

1610
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,280
a little bit and I've grouped these

1611
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,880
sports together in things that are

1612
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,640
meaningful in terms of the spaces that

1613
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,960
we're talking about. Um so baseball and

1614
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,640
softball I threw together as baseball

1615
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,440
softball basketball is just basketball.

1616
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,680
Um under NA I put together all the

1617
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,359
things that are probably outside of what

1618
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:43,839
we can affect. Uh, so cheerleading,

1619
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:45,760
golf, gymnastics, ice hockey, swimming.

1620
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,960
We have a space. We're probably not

1621
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,720
building another pool. Track and field,

1622
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,520
and wrestling, right? Open field is flag

1623
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,680
football, tackle football, lacrosse, and

1624
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,760
soccer. I do want to call out flag

1625
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,359
football for a second. One of the things

1626
01:03:57,359 --> 01:03:59,200
that was interesting in the study is the

1627
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,280
fastest growing sport is girls flag

1628
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,200
football, which surprised me. I didn't

1629
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,000
realize that, but it's huge, right? Um,

1630
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,680
tennis is tennis, uh, volleyball is

1631
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:08,799
volleyball. You play those, where you

1632
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:10,160
play those, they're they're they're that

1633
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,640
thing, right? So if you take a look at

1634
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,359
the age groups the either the 6 to 12 or

1635
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:18,640
the 13 to 17 and look at open field that

1636
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,559
in the case of the younger kids makes up

1637
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:25,680
about 15% of kids playing that and um

1638
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,960
the older group about 17%. And on the

1639
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,400
older groups it's trending down a little

1640
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,760
bit. Everything's kind of trending down.

1641
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,000
So tennis on the younger kids it's about

1642
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,000
2% down. Some are down more than others.

1643
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,680
Again tennis starting kind of a low

1644
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,280
numbers is up right. Um, and I'm what I

1645
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,440
want to call out in this is not one

1646
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,160
sport versus another, but a comparison

1647
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,359
of we have lit spaces for just about

1648
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:52,720
everything on this list, except we have

1649
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,240
zero lit spaces for fields. I don't know

1650
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,400
the answer for this. This is the problem

1651
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,240
statement I want to put out there. I'm

1652
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,119
not saying I'm proposing we do X for Y.

1653
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:04,799
I wanted to put it out there for you

1654
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:09,440
guys to think about and talk about and for staff consider as well and

1655
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,880
whether it's something that we're able

1656
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,680
to do or able to work with the other

1657
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,920
municipalities around us or the schools

1658
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,319
maybe it's like the the the fields are a

1659
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:22,400
limiting factor the lit fields are an

1660
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,240
absolute limiting factor in field sports

1661
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,240
in West Valley.

1662
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,839
So I don't like like I said I don't have

1663
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:31,200
an answer on it. I just know it's it's a

1664
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,200
like we're capped

1665
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,000
So, any thoughts?

1666
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,860
>> Thank you for that.

1667
01:05:39,870 --> 01:05:41,599
[laughter]

1668
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:43,039
>> I'm not in charge.

1669
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:46,960
>> I would say that the main difference is probably the type

1670
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,559
of lighting. I mean, an open field's

1671
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:51,599
going to have huge lights that affect a

1672
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,440
lot more

1673
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,000
>> the immediate area, which makes them

1674
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,280
>> harder harder to do. Um,

1675
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,359
>> I happen to live next to Millennium who

1676
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:03,440
just put in practice fields with huge

1677
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,039
lit lights that have

1678
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,400
football flag of football all the time.

1679
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,799
Young kids, not high school kids. So, I

1680
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:15,200
know that space is is available. I don't

1681
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,240
know make use of it. I don't think so. I

1682
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:18,880
don't know who use

1683
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,240
>> We don't use any of uh LED or

1684
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,720
um pardon me aquafria. We don't use

1685
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,799
either. Yeah, but I don't know that

1686
01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:31,440
might be something to to look at just to

1687
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,079
get an idea of how they did it.

1688
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,160
>> I wholeheartedly agree. I remember one

1689
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,319
spot time and Pat, you may I used to

1690
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:40,000
bring portable lights to Aleppo because

1691
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,559
I had basketball practices and by six

1692
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,640
o'clock it was dark out and so I brought

1693
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,681
my own lights and I didn't hear

1694
01:06:46,681 --> 01:06:48,559
[laughter] that

1695
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:51,920
10 years ago probably. Um but uh I just

1696
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,920
I imagine that the the hurdles we face

1697
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,039
are a cost and b light pollution.

1698
01:06:57,039 --> 01:06:59,280
>> Yeah. And if I may on light pollution,

1699
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,880
there's a big difference between the

1700
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,480
light leakage from the older style

1701
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:03,839
lights. Yeah. Absolutely.

1702
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:05,520
>> Versus Jackie Robinson field that have

1703
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,960
lights that are very high up. And I know

1704
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,799
it was a concern when we put that in,

1705
01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:10,640
but they're like they're dialed in,

1706
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,079
right? You drive by their night, hey,

1707
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:13,440
you can see the field, but it's not like

1708
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,680
the houses are lit up half locked down

1709
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,799
like older lights on.

1710
01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:18,319
>> Yeah. those neighbors, that

1711
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:20,640
neighborhood's very happy, too. And that

1712
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,799
was that was a big process, if you guys

1713
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:23,359
remember.

1714
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:24,000
>> Yeah.

1715
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,480
>> Um that was, you know, it took a lot of

1716
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,720
doing. Sunny actually went over there

1717
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,440
and

1718
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,799
>> he talked to every one of those

1719
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:32,319
neighbors in that neighborhood and said,

1720
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:33,839
"This is what we're trying to do. This

1721
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:36,400
is the technology we're using to make

1722
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,720
sure the light pollution won't destroy

1723
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,640
your living room at, you know, nine

1724
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,480
o'clock at night when T-ball's finishing

1725
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,000
up or whatever.

1726
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,200
>> We have four parks that would be

1727
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,760
candidates for that. came back stag and

1728
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,039
scout

1729
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,799
>> turtle age too.

1730
01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:53,520
>> Yeah. I think one of the big hurdles is

1731
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,440
all the courts and things you talked

1732
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,160
about where they're lit. They're not

1733
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,119
generally right by houses like the rec

1734
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:02,720
center. You know, most of the ones I can

1735
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,480
think that you listed, they're not right

1736
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,119
by houses. So, I I anticipate there

1737
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:10,000
would be some push back to people that

1738
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,680
are used to kind of having it quiet in

1739
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,280
their neighborhood at night versus all

1740
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,559
of a sudden there's a lot of activity

1741
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:17,279
and lights. So, I think that that's that

1742
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,759
would be a hurdle that we'd have to

1743
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:21,120
address as the resident,

1744
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,279
>> but it would probably have to end at

1745
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,719
9:00 or something like that. And I mean,

1746
01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:28,960
you know, that's normal.

1747
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,279
>> Yeah.

1748
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,040
>> I don't know. For me, the big picture

1749
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,199
being, you know, the old grandma up here

1750
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:35,440
is if we can do anything to make these

1751
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:38,159
numbers go up and get kids away from

1752
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:39,920
their screens and outside playing with

1753
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,920
each other,

1754
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,480
>> I'm for it. So, I don't know. I Yeah.

1755
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:46,480
And but I do agree about lights in

1756
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:49,440
neighborhoods and making sure that, you

1757
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:51,359
know, they shine down and that kind of

1758
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,759
thing. So, I'm glad you brought it up.

1759
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:57,279
Would this be something that

1760
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:58,960
our

1761
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,279
city leagues

1762
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,839
would use? I mean, I don't want to build

1763
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:05,440
something just for the other cities,

1764
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:07,199
right? I mean,

1765
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:08,319
>> no.

1766
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:10,319
>> Lit fields like with the I want to hear

1767
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:11,679
from you, Pat, is what I'm trying to

1768
01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:12,880
say. [laughter]

1769
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,359
>> Yeah. I mean, if we did have lit fields,

1770
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:16,960
we would definitely use it. The biggest

1771
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,359
thing is we get especially in the spring

1772
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:21,279
when soccer season's going on is why

1773
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,520
don't we do winter soccer or other

1774
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,480
soccer.

1775
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:24,960
>> Yeah.

1776
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,359
>> Um comes into a twofold kind of thing

1777
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,239
where the fall we we have a lot of our

1778
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:31,839
parks are being used with t-ball or flag

1779
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:34,080
football as it is. Um but we would love

1780
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,040
to do winter. It's just the issue is

1781
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,920
we don't have lights and so

1782
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,239
>> um games we fine because on Saturdays

1783
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:44,000
but it just practices be an issue

1784
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,719
because by the time if 5:00 hits it's

1785
01:09:46,719 --> 01:09:48,319
already getting dark and we don't want

1786
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:50,400
to be like hey thanks for coaching find

1787
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,199
your own practice location. Um we've

1788
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:55,679
checked with the school to see what that

1789
01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:58,719
would charge um to use their fields, but

1790
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:00,400
if we did have fields of our own that

1791
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,719
are lit and able to use practices, that

1792
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:05,199
would definitely open up the doors for

1793
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:07,520
more sports like winter teball, winter

1794
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,840
soccer, and other possible programs that

1795
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,400
we could kind of implement that. You

1796
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,000
know, obviously the weather is good

1797
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,280
during that time. It's just we don't

1798
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,360
have any lights or fields to be able to

1799
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,280
use. So

1800
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,679
>> you mentioned schools having facilities

1801
01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:23,840
that are available

1802
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:24,640
>> that comes

1803
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,480
>> I mean the cost of building one versus

1804
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:29,440
the cost of renting one

1805
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:30,960
>> would come into play but you're saying

1806
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,480
there's facilities that are available to

1807
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,159
rent that would have like enough

1808
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:37,040
capacity do you think? uh it limits to

1809
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,400
what we really have. Like if it's

1810
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,560
Western Sky, it's comes down to

1811
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,320
really the cost to renting it, the

1812
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,400
lights, and then also there's they also

1813
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:51,199
have other programs going on at the same time where we would be able to

1814
01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:53,600
kind of control what's like these are

1815
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,080
our for our sports. They they reserve it

1816
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,880
out to other leagues. those fields are

1817
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,480
>> fields

1818
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:03,280
>> and we can control we can kind of

1819
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,000
control uh the field conditions whereas

1820
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,400
the school um I know you guys asked

1821
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,520
about the T-ball fields back um back

1822
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,520
there that was an issue also was the

1823
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,880
weeds were growing and we started

1824
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,239
getting complaints when we moved over

1825
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,320
there that thorns were getting stuck in

1826
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,960
the balls in there. So, you know, we

1827
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,040
kind of just

1828
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,480
would be stuck with whatever the field

1829
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,880
conditions are. Um, compared to if it

1830
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,320
was our own parks, obviously we' be

1831
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,000
like, "Hey, Kevin,

1832
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,840
>> there's a go for again."

1833
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,159
>> That's a good talking point because the

1834
01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:38,480
lights are great, but with the increase

1835
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:41,840
of operating hours, we now need more

1836
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,840
coverage and enforcement. you know,

1837
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,520
who's going to be at the field while the

1838
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,199
lights are on to tell you that you don't

1839
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:48,880
have the field reserved and that that is

1840
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,679
for the team that paid the money. And so

1841
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:53,840
then the extra cost for the staff to

1842
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,000
constantly keeping them maintained, but

1843
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,800
for the city of Poria, lights and fields

1844
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,120
were amazing revenue generators. If we

1845
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,800
had lights on and it had something you

1846
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,400
could play on underneath it, there were

1847
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,000
club teams reaching out from us from

1848
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,840
everywhere to just want to rent them to

1849
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,400
take care of them. So, um, wherever you

1850
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,960
put it, whether it's for league or just,

1851
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,880
you know, revenue generating in general,

1852
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,560
I mean, I see plenty of citizens

1853
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,239
throughout the week that are looking to

1854
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:20,000
have the T-ball park to themselves to

1855
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,000
just hit some softballs or to go out and

1856
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,239
do a a skills camp with some soccer kids

1857
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:25,840
at Turtle. I see them do that two or

1858
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,679
three times. Same thing with Camel Back.

1859
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:30,000
Um, so those are revenue opportunities

1860
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,159
where we would they're probably doing it

1861
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:33,840
in the evening anyway where you can just

1862
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,360
flip the lights on for them and charge

1863
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,040
them a fee for it. Oh, okay.

1864
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,320
>> Well, there there's there and um I'm

1865
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,159
sorry I just completely stepped on your

1866
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,440
hand up there, but they've like uh Pat

1867
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:47,600
and I have discussed before as I'm sure

1868
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,280
all the other people who have coached in

1869
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,120
the room. There there are a lot of

1870
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,960
people who just kind of walk onto our

1871
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,440
facilities without really renting and

1872
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,920
you know it's you you say something to

1873
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,920
them in as nice a way as you can like

1874
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,840
hey man you should really make sure

1875
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,840
you're doing this on the books. We even

1876
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,520
had an ROC club exercising camel for the

1877
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,080
longest time. Do you remember?

1878
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,159
>> There was a storefront there over by

1879
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:15,679
that Owens place by behind

1880
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:17,760
>> Oh yeah. had recruiting.

1881
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,640
>> It was up to like 20 25 people at times.

1882
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,360
Not that you know

1883
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,120
>> cross country team meets at the Ellis

1884
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,199
Square every morning before they run and

1885
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:28,159
go do practice. Yeah.

1886
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:29,600
>> And they cruise the neighborhood. And

1887
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,120
that's a little bit different than the

1888
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,920
actual like just use of a field for x

1889
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,640
amount of time, you know,

1890
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,080
>> and um I want to maybe reemphasize 2.1

1891
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,320
um the conditions of fields like we in

1892
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,480
the winter especially have phenomenal

1893
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:48,320
grass. And if you compare that

1894
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,600
the [clears throat] local schools that

1895
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,600
are available for rent, it is like one

1896
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,400
is dangerous and the other is like it's

1897
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,040
kind of they're that far apart.

1898
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,480
And if you look at the what clubs charge

1899
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:02,400
if you want sorry what school district

1900
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,320
charges a club to rent out the field

1901
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,719
it's obscene. So whether it's a money

1902
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:08,960
maker or it's available for us or a

1903
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,760
combination of the two like those that

1904
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:12,719
is a real thing.

1905
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:14,320
>> You make a great point because you're

1906
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,719
one of the few cities that still

1907
01:14:16,719 --> 01:14:19,360
transitions to rye everywhere. No one

1908
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,120
hardly does it and if they do they do it

1909
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,880
on professional sports fields or

1910
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,640
programmable sports fields. So, if you

1911
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,841
guys are transitioning already,

1912
01:14:25,841 --> 01:14:26,480
[clears throat]

1913
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,159
it makes sense where everyone wants to

1914
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:30,560
be at those beautiful the best looking

1915
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,320
fields in the winter are going to be

1916
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,679
here. You might as well light them up

1917
01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:35,760
for them and collect something. Yeah.

1918
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,520
>> Yeah. They're most of the time they're

1919
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,679
usable with stars, right? So, we look at

1920
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:41,280
them during the day when we're at work,

1921
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,000
>> right? Um but so I I don't know where we

1922
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,360
go from here. I mean, I think there's

1923
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,440
some parks that are if we were to do

1924
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,400
something in LH Park that are better

1925
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,800
suited than others. And Mr. Faith to

1926
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,159
your point like there are some that are

1927
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:56,080
more in neighborhoods than and some that

1928
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:57,920
are little less in neighborhoods. So

1929
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,239
Camelback for example has more street

1930
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:01,280
but budding right

1931
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,320
>> park acreage and and turtle as well. Um

1932
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,239
Camelback more though because it's got

1933
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:08,239
like a full 90 degrees right and then

1934
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:09,199
the the

1935
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,040
>> the curvature of the street just I think

1936
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,880
might lend itself to it. Plus we've got

1937
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,960
work there anyway. Um

1938
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,400
>> new parking there as well.

1939
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,239
>> Yeah. So that that's the one that makes

1940
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:21,199
the most sense to me. Um, but I don't

1941
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:22,800
know, and I guess I'm looking to you

1942
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,880
guys for advice. Like, do we ask you to

1943
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,560
look into this? This is not something

1944
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,000
that's going to get done this year. I

1945
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,320
know that. But like, how do we set the

1946
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,080
wheels in motion on on this

1947
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:40,070
conversation?

1948
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,800
» We can certainly start the process

1949
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,760
internally to start thinking about pros

1950
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,760
and cons for that. But I think that at

1951
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,840
your level that needs to be done too. I

1952
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,520
think you guys need to take the pulse of

1953
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,320
the community to find out if there's

1954
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,960
truly any interest. And if there is,

1955
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,800
what would what would your neighbors

1956
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,120
think is the best part to have it at?

1957
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,199
That kind of stuff. And and keep having

1958
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:07,040
those conversations with them. And we

1959
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,600
can maybe set set it on the agenda

1960
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,360
a couple months from now and see where

1961
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,000
everybody's gathered info and and come

1962
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,400
back to that. Um because this will be a

1963
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,239
building process to get it to a point

1964
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:24,239
where we want to ask city admin to get

1965
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:27,840
this on the proposed capital improvement

1966
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,480
plan so that that can go to council

1967
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:32,640
because these are big ticket items that

1968
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,199
are going to need council's buy into.

1969
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:37,199
>> What what would when does the next

1970
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:39,760
planning cycle for that start? Capital

1971
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,840
improvements.

1972
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,840
Um really it seems like

1973
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,320
December, January because those are all

1974
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,600
being discussed February, March, April,

1975
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,040
those things are all getting locked

1976
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,320
down.

1977
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:55,040
>> Um

1978
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,600
>> okay. So that we we would if we want to

1979
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,080
try try it first time, right? That time.

1980
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:02,480
>> Yeah.

1981
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:03,600
>> Okay.

1982
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,360
>> All right. Yep. So you guys have that

1983
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,560
data. The uh the URL to where all this

1984
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,239
data comes from projectplay.org orange

1985
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:13,920
is at the bottom of the lab u to send

1986
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,840
this out in digital format to include it

1987
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,640
discuss.

1988
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,480
>> Yeah, we'll get that so that we can keep

1989
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:23,199
that on file in case there's ever a a

1990
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,760
public request for that.

1991
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,600
>> Okay. Is there anything that we should

1992
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,400
ask you to do at this point besides get

1993
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,600
this on a future agenda or start to

1994
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,239
socialize it within staff?

1995
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:38,000
>> Do you need a motion to direct you to

1996
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,560
something or no? Um, no, we don't need

1997
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,159
any formal motion.

1998
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:42,640
>> Okay. I

1999
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,880
>> think we can just ask you guys to look

2000
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,000
into it. Yeah.

2001
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,640
>> Come back to us with some

2002
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,679
>> generalities.

2003
01:17:49,679 --> 01:17:51,679
>> Yeah. So, you essentially direct staff

2004
01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:55,199
to to start looking into it and then you

2005
01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:58,320
guys will do the same.

2006
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,000
>> There is excess land by Jackie Robinson

2007
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:07,679
his lights. the parking behind on the uh

2008
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:08,560
east side.

2009
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,920
>> Yeah, it's true. It's just a bunch of

2010
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,440
dirt

2011
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:14,640
pipes.

2012
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,640
>> Every time I try to use it, I get told

2013
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,320
no. So, you guys want to give me

2014
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,080
permission to use it? I'd be more than

2015
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:20,719
happy.

2016
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:22,480
>> I would give you permission to remove

2017
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,800
those big pipes that are supposed to go

2018
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,560
underground right there.

2019
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,560
>> Yeah. I was told that's for the drainage

2020
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,040
project to help with the camel back

2021
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,199
road. And I asked when that project was

2022
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:34,960
happening and everyone said those pipes

2023
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,199
are still there.

2024
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:38,159
>> Well,

2025
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:39,679
>> yeah, they're they're secured very

2026
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:40,960
nicely. Um

2027
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,880
>> I will say that is the parking lot for

2028
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:43,440
Jackie.

2029
01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:43,920
>> Yeah.

2030
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,320
>> Um

2031
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,760
>> there's a bunch of land.

2032
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,239
>> Yeah.

2033
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:47,840
>> On the other side of the parking lot, I

2034
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,159
think.

2035
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:49,280
>> So

2036
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,840
>> that definitely isn't being utilized.

2037
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:52,080
Yeah.

2038
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:52,960
>> Yeah.

2039
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,960
>> Um and we do have I know it wasn't on

2040
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,880
here. It'll be in our next meeting, but

2041
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,320
we are engineering wise, they are moving

2042
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,800
the wall at Camelback Park starting in

2043
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:03,840
September.

2044
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,679
>> Um, so that's part of Keith's

2045
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,840
engineering department. Um, but I'll

2046
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,199
bring you guys at least something to

2047
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:10,719
report on that once that project started

2048
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:12,640
in September.

2049
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,280
>> Awesome.

2050
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:16,880
>> Thank you.

2051
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:23,350
Yeah.

2052
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,520
» Scout Park T-ball field presenter Trisha

2053
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,280
Kramer, Community and Recreation

2054
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Services Director Action and Comment.

2055
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,360
>> Thank you, Chairman Teddy and

2056
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,000
Commissioners. Um, I'll just briefly

2057
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,520
share a little bit of background and

2058
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,120
then, um, Pat has been working on this a

2059
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,000
bit, so I'll have him, uh, fill you in

2060
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,400
on any details, too. But um we started

2061
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,960
to discuss this back at our April

2062
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,280
meeting. Um

2063
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:59,199
we had on the um fiscal year 26 budget.

2064
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:02,159
There was um a capital improvement

2065
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:06,560
opportunity to uh do some upgrades and

2066
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,760
add a T-ball field at Turtle Park.

2067
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,920
initially was the recommendation from uh

2068
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,440
city administration and staff uh did

2069
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:18,640
some looking and went over there and got

2070
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,320
some quotes and then uh went to some of

2071
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,360
the other fields and we determined that

2072
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,560
we have a back stop that's in better use

2073
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,760
at Scout Park and uh took a look and

2074
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,320
came to you in April essentially saying

2075
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:37,920
hey what do you think about this

2076
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,400
opportunity at Scout park and and having

2077
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,920
the dirt in fields. And uh we received

2078
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,320
your direction to take a look and uh

2079
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,760
meet with people to see if there was a

2080
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,000
better location than where the back stop

2081
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,560
currently is to make the best use of the

2082
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,719
park overall.

2083
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:01,280
And so Pat met with a couple of vendors.

2084
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,040
I know um public grounds crew also um

2085
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,000
did some communicating with him on this.

2086
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,520
and he's got some answers for you and uh

2087
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,280
once you get that info from him, we're

2088
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,960
looking for feedback from you guys on um

2089
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,800
the proposed placement and layout.

2090
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,040
Thank you, Trisha. So, um as Trisha

2091
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,120
mentioned, I did have uh two companies

2092
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,199
come out um and to take a look at um

2093
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:31,120
Scout Park and where the placement would

2094
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,120
be and what their thoughts were. Um I

2095
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,600
know question was do we leave it

2096
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,280
currently or is there another area that

2097
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,679
we can move it to? Um so on the picture

2098
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,440
you see now it's kind of what the final

2099
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,320
plan was. Um we after looking at all the

2100
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,880
areas that is going to be leaving it

2101
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,159
where it's at is going to be the best

2102
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:54,159
option. We did look if um at a corner

2103
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:56,080
that's close that's behind the bushes

2104
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,159
that that's between the park and the

2105
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,080
parking lot at the wigwam to see if we

2106
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,080
can move it that way and kind of facing

2107
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,800
in and out that way. So because I know

2108
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,560
um when we discussed this one of the

2109
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,320
concerns was to you know having a

2110
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,800
baseball field right that close to the

2111
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,760
park as well as the the street and just

2112
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,800
being wide out in the open and losing

2113
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,960
kind of that grass area. The issue we

2114
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,760
came there was that's where also all the

2115
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,800
uh boxes and controls for the irrigation

2116
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,080
were. So it would be a lot bigger

2117
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,840
project to try to move those to a

2118
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,679
different area to have that. Um so where

2119
01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:35,600
it's at now the irrigation it's a lot

2120
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,360
easier to kind of just dig out the

2121
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,719
irrigation, move the irrigation where

2122
01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:42,719
it's needed um and go from there. Um the

2123
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:44,800
plan would be moving the back stop 10

2124
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,520
feet as you could tell in the picture.

2125
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,760
um closer to the the field to give it

2126
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,159
the so it's not right up against the

2127
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:54,560
sidewalk so the bleachers have an area

2128
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,080
to go to. They will the company will

2129
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,080
move that they will also dig it up and

2130
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,280
then work with public grounds um uh when

2131
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,920
it comes to irrigation. The company we

2132
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,520
one of the companies said that it would

2133
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,280
come at no cost where they dig it up

2134
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,080
help supervise and work with them to get

2135
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,320
the new irrigation where it needs to go

2136
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,920
and have the holes there and everything

2137
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,639
there. Um they would put the dirt down.

2138
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:21,280
The dirt will go basically from the back

2139
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,840
stop all the way to the grass line. And

2140
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,280
then the grass line will be kind of a

2141
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,280
smaller instead of like stags or jackie.

2142
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,440
It'll be from home plate. And then it'll

2143
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:33,280
be 50 uh yard 50 feet from home plate to

2144
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,360
the grass line behind first and third

2145
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,760
base and then 70 feet to the grass line

2146
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,840
behind uh second base. So, um, we kind

2147
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,840
of took I just took a screenshot of what

2148
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,320
stags, um, the dirt is and kind of to

2149
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,560
show you guys where that would be. Um,

2150
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,760
they would also kind of extend the fence

2151
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,600
and then put a dugout kind of like what

2152
01:23:53,600 --> 01:24:02,629
Stags has as well. So,

2153
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:05,040
» that's this is stack superimposed off

2154
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,600
scout. Yeah, that's just I took stags

2155
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,760
parked and then just put it on the scout

2156
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,920
to kind of show what where it would be.

2157
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,880
obviously more of the dirt.

2158
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,800
So the dirt will be it'll the whole

2159
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,560
field will just be the dirt from the

2160
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,800
back stop to the grass line and make it

2161
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,560
kind of look like the field like we we

2162
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,280
did at stags. Uh there we we're not

2163
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:26,480
going to we're have going to have a

2164
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:28,639
permanent home base in there, but we're

2165
01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:31,920
not going to do um the anchors or

2166
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,639
anything like that for the bases. That's

2167
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:36,639
more being T- ball. We just throw the

2168
01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:39,040
bases down and throw down bases and we

2169
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,280
don't have to worry about um the anchors

2170
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,360
getting torn out or played with or or

2171
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,120
kids running on the field and tripping

2172
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,719
on those. So

2173
01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:49,520
>> are and are you proposing a fences shown

2174
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,239
on here past the dugout as well?

2175
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:54,320
>> Um no. So the fence would just basically

2176
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,880
add it on to the the the white line is

2177
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,040
just basically showing where the grass

2178
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,520
the the grass line would start from home

2179
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,520
base. Um it it'll basically start from

2180
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,679
just like it stags it go from the back

2181
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:09,840
stop go all the way to where the end of

2182
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,440
the dugout is and then that that's all

2183
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:13,040
the fence will be.

2184
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,120
>> So no extended fence past the dugout.

2185
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,880
>> No. Yeah. Once the dugout's done the

2186
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,400
fence will be right there.

2187
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,840
>> Some of the dugouts I don't think it has

2188
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,360
a dugout there now. Does it?

2189
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,360
>> Stags does. Scout doesn't know. Scout's

2190
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:24,719
just a but it would be like stags.

2191
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:26,719
>> But it would be like stags. Yeah.

2192
01:25:26,719 --> 01:25:28,719
>> Where have a se it'll have a cement uh

2193
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:31,760
pad and then just a bench and then it'll

2194
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,920
just be a kind of fenced chain linked

2195
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,590
around. Yeah.

2196
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,760
» Sure. Um yeah, I could say I I like it

2197
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,080
pushed out from where it currently is

2198
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:44,800
because

2199
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,560
>> I do like visually seeing that there's

2200
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,360
space between the playground and like

2201
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:50,880
where there will be the back stop and

2202
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,719
everything. There's some cushion in

2203
01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:55,840
there and from the road. Um, so that

2204
01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:02,960
location looks pretty good from my viewpoint. Um,

2205
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,880
might be beneficial before any like

2206
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,280
final decisions are made to like go out

2207
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,600
and tape like chalk it out just to get a

2208
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,199
visualization.

2209
01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:14,000
But yeah, my my impression from the

2210
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,120
picture I like what I'm seeing. does I

2211
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,280
know that you've run two fields there in

2212
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,520
the past I think for flag football right

2213
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,760
so yeah flag football um would be moved

2214
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,000
to turtle so you would you wouldn't be

2215
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,159
able to run any flag there anymore

2216
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:30,800
>> no because the two fields

2217
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,040
right now we had to adjust one of the

2218
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,520
fields for flag football because it we

2219
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,679
weren't able to get the 300 feet well

2220
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:39,440
when we they when they put the new

2221
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:44,239
sidewalk in with the ramada it kind of that moving it to park would

2222
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:46,960
give us back the possibility the full

2223
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,000
300 and then putting here as well as uh

2224
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,239
U6 soccer would move to scout as well in

2225
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:54,560
the spring.

2226
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,800
>> So there would be a multi-purpose for

2227
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:57,840
the rest of that still.

2228
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,760
>> Yeah. Basically whatever we have at at

2229
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:05,280
turtle like the US soccer the t-ball we would move move to here and then

2230
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,679
flack the ball would go to go to turtle

2231
01:27:07,679 --> 01:27:09,920
the grass area. I apologize if you just

2232
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,239
answered this, but

2233
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:18,000
moving the the T-ball over to scout,

2234
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,719
does that then mean

2235
01:27:20,719 --> 01:27:23,840
that the only thing happening while the

2236
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,719
T-ball is happening is the T-ball or can

2237
01:27:26,719 --> 01:27:29,920
you can you do T-ball on one side of the

2238
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,040
field and something else on the other or

2239
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,520
is it is that just too much?

2240
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,000
>> That would be too much uh parking. It's

2241
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,000
would still be we while we do have that

2242
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,159
dirt lot by the scout scout lodge as

2243
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:45,040
well as the parking on the side. Um I

2244
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,320
think if we add more then the spots

2245
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,480
would parking would still be kind of

2246
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:51,920
become an issue at this time.

2247
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,360
>> Parking is not easy there.

2248
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,920
>> Yeah. For this park specifically, our

2249
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,159
irrigation system needs to be

2250
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:01,760
re-engineered because on that north end,

2251
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,520
you're not even able to grow grass well

2252
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,120
enough to play on because the pressure

2253
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,920
is too low. And it's not low because of

2254
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,000
Liberty. It's low because when this park

2255
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,760
was designed or the staff through the

2256
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,760
years modified it, there's too many

2257
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,000
heads in one line or in one zone. So

2258
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,920
this irrigation system has a booster

2259
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,239
pump and it was also a booster pump that

2260
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:23,920
was rated too small for this size

2261
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,800
system. So this park inherently has an

2262
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,760
irrigation system that is causing you

2263
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,679
guys a lot of problems programming as

2264
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:33,920
well. So um there's a bigger problem

2265
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,760
there than just the baseball. But yeah,

2266
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,440
the the fields where you would be able

2267
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:39,360
to play were not even able to put the

2268
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,360
grass green enough or dense enough for

2269
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,199
people to play on without it being a

2270
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:45,360
hazard.

2271
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,840
Can we fix that as part of this?

2272
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,320
Absolutely. This would be definitely

2273
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,840
something that we could look at. Um,

2274
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,320
like Pat's talking about. And if if it's

2275
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,639
the direction we go where we're doing an

2276
01:28:56,639 --> 01:28:59,280
irrigation system with the field, moving

2277
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,840
those valves and backflows while we're

2278
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,520
doing that gives us more flexibility and

2279
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:04,880
options. So, if that was something that

2280
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,120
was keeping us from positioning the

2281
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,560
field, if we're going to look at that

2282
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,120
whole system as an entirety, we may be

2283
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,239
able to grant ourselves some more

2284
01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:15,520
flexibility as well.

2285
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,520
because the the ultimate go I see your

2286
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,120
hand

2287
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,560
commissioner G why don't you go first

2288
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:21,360
then I'll

2289
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,600
>> so I mean we're doing the system maybe

2290
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,320
the where the valve boxes are today has

2291
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:30,560
been moved um my initial concern with

2292
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,960
the location was that we're taking one

2293
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,880
of the most beautiful vantage points

2294
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,600
into our park into you're looking at the

2295
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,199
back of bleachers which aren't shown

2296
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:45,189
here and a chain fence and I I

2297
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:48,159
It seems to me like a downgrade to the

2298
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:51,120
park where we're putting it. Um I don't

2299
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,760
know whether we're open to reducing the

2300
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,120
dugout impact or maybe not putting down

2301
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,520
dirt. I never played t-ball, but my

2302
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,320
neighbors that are very avid baseball

2303
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,400
said you don't like te-ball and grass is

2304
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,239
fine. Um, so I don't know is that are we

2305
01:30:08,239 --> 01:30:11,760
open to maybe not making such a hard

2306
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,040
change to the view that not just the

2307
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,560
neighbors but the people that are going

2308
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,560
to be in the park closest to our city

2309
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,960
center are going to have that bleachers

2310
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,800
and Shamley the back of bleachers and

2311
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:27,189
Shamley pensions.

2312
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:31,520
And can I because this kind of um is

2313
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,159
maybe is part of my thinking and what

2314
01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:37,679
you just said too. I feel like as well

2315
01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:40,000
like we're we're moving away from using

2316
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,159
the field the little T-ball field

2317
01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:44,800
because that's the one I coached on when

2318
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,440
um my kiddos were T-ball age. So the the

2319
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:53,360
field at led pardon me.

2320
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,960
we don't want to use that field I guess

2321
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,960
because it's in just not great condition

2322
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,639
but now that they're kind of opening up

2323
01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:02,000
to us a little bit more um or is what

2324
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,800
you're proposing here in lie of using

2325
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:09,440
that field for like a t-ball.

2326
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:12,560
So this would be cuz right now currently

2327
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,040
when so if we did this it'll kind of

2328
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,960
open up a few other avenues where right

2329
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,800
now we have winter t-ball um going on um

2330
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,880
but for practices with the lighting we

2331
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,199
use Jackie Robinson and so we have that

2332
01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:32,080
for the practices where as well as using

2333
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,239
Jackie Robinson for the games at five

2334
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:36,960
and six and then we use stags for the

2335
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:40,239
three and four uh t-ball age group. If

2336
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:43,760
we get another field, um that would open

2337
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,760
up a chance to be able to get do another

2338
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:48,239
coach pitch season in the winter where

2339
01:31:48,239 --> 01:31:51,520
coach pitch 78 would go winter as well,

2340
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,199
do practices just like we have been

2341
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:55,600
doing, but they would coach pitch would

2342
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,520
be on Saturdays at Jackie and then we

2343
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,080
would be able to move the older T-ball

2344
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,440
to this field. Um and then when we do

2345
01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:06,159
close other parks for overseating it

2346
01:32:06,159 --> 01:32:07,840
goes from

2347
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,639
you know the three and four year old is

2348
01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:12,560
on stags when we close that it goes to

2349
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,120
t-ball where then we move that to turtle

2350
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,320
where it's just all grass and they still

2351
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,560
can play with it but the ball doesn't

2352
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,639
roll and once it hits the grass it does

2353
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:24,320
slow it down and it doesn't roll like it

2354
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,800
normally would. So they go from a field

2355
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,800
and we've have had some parents asking

2356
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,920
why it goes from a baseball field to the

2357
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,320
grass area because I mean it's three and

2358
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:35,520
four and they still hit it and they

2359
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,840
still run but the ball doesn't roll like

2360
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,320
it would on a normal baseball field. You

2361
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:41,840
could still play on it. It's not saying

2362
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,000
the grass is anything like a bigger

2363
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,800
difference but it does obviously slow

2364
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,400
the ball down compared to what a

2365
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,480
baseball field is. it is a higher

2366
01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:52,800
maintenance cost and tougher to keep

2367
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,760
straight and with the dirt at you have

2368
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,840
more applications for not just t-ball

2369
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,719
and lily but softball as well. So yeah,

2370
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:03,120
we've a lot of the larger parks from the

2371
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,560
municipalities that I've come from have

2372
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,120
done away from the infield skins that

2373
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,199
grass design. So yeah, it's just been

2374
01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:12,800
that open kind of dirt.

2375
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,360
I I I I understand Kristoff's point

2376
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,840
about, you know, from Lichfield Square

2377
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,600
to the viewpoint there. That's that's

2378
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,280
not a a gorgeous view on the back of

2379
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,320
Bleachers. And I don't think I I'm I'm

2380
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:25,760
getting old and it's been a long time

2381
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,760
since I coached 34T ball, but I don't

2382
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,960
remember there being bleachers at Stags.

2383
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,880
>> Well, they're

2384
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:33,840
bleachers now.

2385
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:34,560
>> They're not big.

2386
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,800
>> They're not like back stop. It's like a

2387
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,080
little

2388
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,120
>> free

2389
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,320
>> and and I think 85% of parents bring a

2390
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:42,960
chair.

2391
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,760
>> Um we do have bleachers for scout and

2392
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:46,639
turtle. Okay.

2393
01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:49,120
>> Um we have them at stags now to give the

2394
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,480
option park.

2395
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:52,239
>> Uh they're not there.

2396
01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:55,360
>> They're we have them for turtle. We

2397
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:56,960
they're in the yard.

2398
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:01,600
>> I think the happy medium, you know, is not maybe maybe without bleachers

2399
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,679
there. So that it's, you know, and that

2400
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:05,040
probably helps with milling and all that

2401
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,480
kind of fun stuff, right?

2402
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,960
>> Um, but then it also keeps, you know, a

2403
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,040
nice view, you know, the chain link that

2404
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,199
you see through it. And, you know, we

2405
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:14,639
would expect to see dirt on the infield

2406
01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:16,800
of a baseball field. That's fine. But

2407
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:21,189
maybe there's a happy medium there.

2408
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:27,760
in your well in this summary here it says that companies were talked to

2409
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,679
and both of them said that this is the

2410
01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:33,120
best way to to do it but what were they

2411
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,440
evaluating it based on I mean is that

2412
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:38,159
based on cost or functionality of the

2413
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,520
baseball field and I mean I would assume

2414
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,159
that they were not evaluating it based

2415
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:48,000
on how it looks from across the street.

2416
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,080
>> Yeah. No, they they were it was based on

2417
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,679
the cost of um work that would have to

2418
01:34:53,679 --> 01:34:56,239
be entail of either moving this

2419
01:34:56,239 --> 01:34:57,920
irrigation or this irrigation. That's

2420
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,920
kind of they weren't looking at what's

2421
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:01,600
going to be obviously the view and

2422
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,120
everything. It's just more cost

2423
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,320
efficiency.

2424
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:05,600
>> Yeah.

2425
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:14,719
>> I mean I I definitely agree that I don't love the idea from a like a view

2426
01:35:14,719 --> 01:35:17,920
point. I think that there's like if you

2427
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,360
were to put the field

2428
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,320
to the east pointing the other

2429
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,639
direction, you know, it's T-ball, so

2430
01:35:26,639 --> 01:35:28,480
you're not going to have balls flying

2431
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:31,920
off over the back stop to where it would

2432
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,239
be like a hazard to the building that's

2433
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:36,560
going to go there eventually and it

2434
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:41,760
would just open up the park more

2435
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,840
>> or the what we talked about. I know that

2436
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,800
the the the boxes are there, but if my

2437
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,120
logic is flawed, let me know if the

2438
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,920
pressure if our water source is on the

2439
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,000
south side and we have a pump that's

2440
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,760
insufficient to reach the north side

2441
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,320
where we have these boxes and the gopher

2442
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,080
absolute destruction up there with the

2443
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,520
hills that are now Swiss cheese. Um,

2444
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,360
wouldn't the park look a lot better if

2445
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,280
we weren't looking at it the field from

2446
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,440
the back but the other direction? Like

2447
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:12,159
because I I want like having the space

2448
01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:13,920
to play is great. I want to have the

2449
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,000
space. I'm not trying to say no T- Bowl.

2450
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,239
It's just where it is is just giving me

2451
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:20,800
a lot of consternation. Um and and

2452
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,000
putting it on the opposite side

2453
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,880
diagonally seems like it would give us

2454
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,520
the space and allow us to take care of

2455
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,159
the area that is the most problematic

2456
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:34,790
inside the park.

2457
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,199
» I don't know that it affects that lodge.

2458
01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:41,590
>> Reduce the noise pollution.

2459
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,760
Maybe maybe spread the parking out a

2460
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,920
little bit. I know people will try to

2461
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,080
park in that wigwam parking lot to

2462
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,560
access it, but

2463
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,800
>> it'll take maybe some of the playing

2464
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,080
space away from the homes in the Loma

2465
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,800
Avenue. You know, your foul balls aren't

2466
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,800
landing in front yards or down the road

2467
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,560
anymore. No kids running into a street

2468
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,679
to go and grab a foul ball. out.

2469
01:37:05,679 --> 01:37:08,639
>> And I would imagine that from a a

2470
01:37:08,639 --> 01:37:11,040
proposal standpoint that that wasn't a

2471
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,199
proposed option given you would almost

2472
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:15,360
have to redesign the irrigation system

2473
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,920
to completely move the field when you

2474
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,880
already have material somewhat there. Um

2475
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,280
but if cost wasn't an issue and we were

2476
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,960
just dreaming and saying what do we want

2477
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,679
it to look like? Um that makes a lot of

2478
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:32,310
sense to me in that quarter.

2479
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,320
I know there was a hand up here, too.

2480
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:35,280
Did you get to

2481
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,920
>> Well, I mean, I'm just talking about the

2482
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,119
aesthetic part of it. I'm not so focused

2483
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:44,800
on the location, but it's a park and in

2484
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,119
parks are ball fields and I don't find

2485
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:49,440
the back stop at Turtle Park Offensive.

2486
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:51,280
I don't find the backs stop and the

2487
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,199
little bleachery things at Stag Park

2488
01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:55,360
Offensive. I mean, it's part of our

2489
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,600
parks. We have so many kids. Our

2490
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,719
programs are growing all the time.

2491
01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:02,800
And the people in the square really I

2492
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,320
don't think are going to be offended if

2493
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,040
they look to that north direction and

2494
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,960
see, oh gosh, there's a ball field

2495
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,480
there. That's great. They've got kids

2496
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:13,520
outside playing. So, I mean, the the

2497
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,760
location of it, that might be something

2498
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,119
that has to be moved, but I just it

2499
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:20,880
doesn't bother me at all from the

2500
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,719
aesthetic. I don't I don't mean to imply

2501
01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:24,960
that it's going to offend people, but

2502
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:26,960
that when we put something in the park,

2503
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,119
I'd rather be looking at the front into

2504
01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:31,840
it and not closing off the view, right?

2505
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,320
So, I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just

2506
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:35,760
saying I think there's a more

2507
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,679
aesthetically pleasing location that

2508
01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:40,000
might also take care of well, if we're

2509
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,920
having problem getting water up there,

2510
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,440
let's put something where we're not

2511
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:45,119
going to want water, which is a clay

2512
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,360
infield up there. But just remember,

2513
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,199
you've got houses up there that did not

2514
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:51,520
want anything happening in that park. A

2515
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:51,920
lot of it.

2516
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,840
>> I understand. But that's I mean, okay,

2517
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,280
we were not going to do anything then

2518
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:56,639
because someone doesn't want it

2519
01:38:56,639 --> 01:38:58,880
happening in the park, but we can't let

2520
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,080
one one house control that we put in the

2521
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,040
park.

2522
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,199
>> So, I will say that up here where this

2523
01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:08,159
the arrow is, that's all hills,

2524
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:10,239
>> right? They're Swiss cheese hills.

2525
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:10,719
>> Just Yeah,

2526
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:12,400
>> it' be easy to top down. Christos could

2527
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,920
do it. Are

2528
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,840
>> my original Yeah. My original thought

2529
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,159
when we looked at we did look at here as

2530
01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:20,560
I mentioned where the the back stop

2531
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,000
would be here and then the field would

2532
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,960
be going going in that direction

2533
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,360
>> to try to kind of keep this big grass

2534
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,920
area. But like I said the issue is like

2535
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,520
right here is where all the controllers

2536
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,159
and the boxes are where if we put a

2537
01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:37,199
field there they looked at more cost

2538
01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:39,840
efficiency and stuff of having to move

2539
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,199
all that. Um, it would be a lot more

2540
01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:45,360
costefficient to keep it where it is

2541
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:46,800
because there's a lot less equipment for

2542
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,560
the irrigation to have to

2543
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:53,030
>> shift

2544
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,880
control in the middle of my football

2545
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,840
field years ago. Pat

2546
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:04,470
>> they didn't care back then.

2547
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:06,080
» So if we don't if we don't want one

2548
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:07,920
backyard looking at a back stop, why do

2549
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:09,760
we want two houses looking directly at

2550
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,920
one street? I mean, I don't I don't

2551
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:12,320
logic.

2552
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,040
>> Yeah, it's one

2553
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:16,639
>> less from like an

2554
01:40:16,639 --> 01:40:17,360
>> I mean, I [clears throat] think it's

2555
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,040
that aesthetic, but I was thinking about

2556
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:23,040
it more from like closing off the park

2557
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:24,480
because you got the playground on the

2558
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:26,800
corner and you have the T-ball field

2559
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,480
there.

2560
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:31,119
Like, kids aren't going to go around the

2561
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:33,440
T-ball field to go play in the open

2562
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:35,520
space. like it's going to have a dirt

2563
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,320
field right there, right next to the the

2564
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,800
playground instead of had an open field

2565
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,719
there. Be more encouraging for kids to

2566
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:47,119
go play in the open field and then have

2567
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,560
play, you know, the the baseball field

2568
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,040
somewhere else. And I mean, I think I

2569
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:58,880
remember that field being right on the corner of Loma and Fairway, right

2570
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,639
where all the golf carts were going

2571
01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:02,880
past. And it looks like it was just

2572
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,760
pushed up when that park was built just

2573
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,119
because that's where it was. And I I

2574
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:10,880
mean I understand putting it where it is

2575
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,440
because of the controllers, but it

2576
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:15,840
sounds like we have a bigger problem.

2577
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,440
And I don't know why we would put the

2578
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:19,119
controllers in the middle of the park.

2579
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:21,440
Like that seems like a problem that's

2580
01:41:21,440 --> 01:41:24,080
going to have to be fixed at some point.

2581
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,000
>> So it's the same in Camelback, right?

2582
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,639
There's the there's a control

2583
01:41:28,639 --> 01:41:30,400
like right in the middle.

2584
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:31,440
>> Yeah. Yeah, which is fun when you're

2585
01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:33,119
running a step off control box.

2586
01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:35,119
>> And I have no idea if that was designed

2587
01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:37,199
that way or if that was a modification

2588
01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:39,600
through the last 25 years. Um, but those

2589
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,239
are irrigation systems that we're hoping

2590
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:45,280
to audit and identify which is our one

2591
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,600
worth investing in the most. Um, because

2592
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,840
they're all have some history to them

2593
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,400
just like that. Um, so anytime I can

2594
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,480
pair in on a project where we're willing

2595
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:56,320
to throw some money in and get it

2596
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,159
addressed, you know, systematically

2597
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:00,400
throughout the whole park, this is the

2598
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:01,679
type of opportunity where that would

2599
01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:03,199
make sense to pair that money together.

2600
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:04,719
>> There used to be volleyball and

2601
01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:06,480
basketball over there.

2602
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:07,040
>> Yeah.

2603
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:08,080
>> So the

2604
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:09,840
>> there's a great basketball court over

2605
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,320
there. The best one.

2606
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:13,920
>> Yep.

2607
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,040
>> That's really good.

2608
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,000
>> You had your hand.

2609
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,719
>> I did. And I just a couple is part of

2610
01:42:18,719 --> 01:42:20,560
the reason that because you mentioned

2611
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,560
being able to expand these programs. So

2612
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,239
I'm assuming if we're expanding it to

2613
01:42:24,239 --> 01:42:26,800
say softball older kids, they're going

2614
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,400
to hit a lot harder and a lot farther

2615
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,400
than T-ball is hitting. So is is part of

2616
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,280
the reason for this selection that

2617
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,840
because it I mean if we move it to that

2618
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,239
top there, we've got a backyard right

2619
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:40,400
there that could hit a window of for a

2620
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,800
foul ball or whatever it may be. And

2621
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,639
then on this side over here, that's

2622
01:42:44,639 --> 01:42:46,320
where the issue is up against like the

2623
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,400
Reds parking lot. I know that's where

2624
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,000
the irrigation issues are, but you've

2625
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,600
also got that house right there and cars

2626
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,360
right there. So foul balls again are

2627
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,679
going to go on there. So I'm just I was

2628
01:42:55,679 --> 01:42:58,000
just curious if that was part of why

2629
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,840
that area was sort of looked at to be

2630
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,239
able to expand the programs that we can

2631
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:03,360
offer.

2632
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,679
>> So the this park would just be used for

2633
01:43:05,679 --> 01:43:07,760
our T-ball. Our older age groups would

2634
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:09,679
still be at Jack the other ones. Okay.

2635
01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:11,840
Um, we would use that for our 78 coach

2636
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,159
pitch, but this would just be our

2637
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:16,800
>> T-ball field. So, it wouldn't be any big

2638
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,400
hitters, anything like that. Um,

2639
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,199
it was just basically like I like I

2640
01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:24,560
mentioned when looking at where the

2641
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,480
controllers were and the works.

2642
01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:28,159
>> So, essentially it'll look like

2643
01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:30,560
Park. It'll be the playground little

2644
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,560
area. Here's your thing. It's just

2645
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:33,440
backwards

2646
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:34,239
>> kind of backwards

2647
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:35,679
>> essentially, right? Like instead of

2648
01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:38,320
driving, you know, you know, it's open

2649
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,239
and then you see it. So I just so I can

2650
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:41,280
visualize it a little bit better.

2651
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,400
>> Yeah, everybody likes

2652
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:43,840
>> essentially flipping.

2653
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:44,239
>> Yeah,

2654
01:43:44,239 --> 01:43:46,800
>> stag is what we're doing. Okay,

2655
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,040
>> I am all for that because I live by

2656
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,760
stag. And I see I see the benefits of

2657
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,760
the parents who have multiple children

2658
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,760
and their little ones can be on the

2659
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,199
field. You've got your other ones right

2660
01:43:57,199 --> 01:43:58,800
here at the playground and there's not

2661
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,080
this trying to be in two places at once.

2662
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,080
Um I think that there is a definitely a

2663
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,600
way to make this look um appealing to

2664
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,119
everyone. I think one of my favorite

2665
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:10,480
things about going to bigger cities,

2666
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:11,840
like you walk through New York and you

2667
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,199
see these little pop-ups all over the

2668
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:14,080
place and it's probably one of the

2669
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:15,199
neatest things that you see because

2670
01:44:15,199 --> 01:44:18,719
people can play. I think that showing

2671
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:20,719
people from outside the community that

2672
01:44:20,719 --> 01:44:24,000
we care enough to have a little te-ball

2673
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,159
field for our little ones and another

2674
01:44:26,159 --> 01:44:27,920
field for our older ones, I think will

2675
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,960
help more than hurt because they'll want

2676
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,639
to come in here. Um, I know that it's in

2677
01:44:34,639 --> 01:44:37,840
an area that's becoming more and more

2678
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,600
uh driven through and and walked through

2679
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,360
and all of that kind of stuff, but I I

2680
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,320
think that there's a way to do it and

2681
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:49,280
have it work for the T-ball kiddos and and anybody that wants to play there

2682
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,920
because I know at SAG if if there's not

2683
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,159
already somebody using it, there's this

2684
01:44:54,159 --> 01:44:55,840
one dad and son who go out pitching

2685
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:57,600
practice every single day, either

2686
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,440
morning or night, every single day, we

2687
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:00,880
see them out there doing it. So, I think

2688
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,119
that we would see more of our community

2689
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:06,639
using it in in that way, especially on

2690
01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:08,639
that side because the north side doesn't

2691
01:45:08,639 --> 01:45:11,199
have one like we do on on this side. So,

2692
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:13,040
I think I do think that there's there's

2693
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,679
a balance there that that could could be

2694
01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:19,679
found for that one.

2695
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:23,280
>> I'm good. That was longwinded and I

2696
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,199
agree. I think what's I think what's not

2697
01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:31,840
sitting right with me about it is that is you put the T-Bo court in that

2698
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,560
spot with the Derfield you can no longer

2699
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,360
use the rest of the field for anything.

2700
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:38,800
>> Why for sports

2701
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,800
>> for other sports and programming where

2702
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,159
if you put it somewhere else you could

2703
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:43,920
still have I mean in that map you see

2704
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,239
the soccer field there

2705
01:45:46,239 --> 01:45:48,320
>> but it's not going to fit anywhere else.

2706
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,600
>> You're chopping off less red tape.

2707
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,080
we would still be able to put our U6

2708
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,320
soccer fields and run two two soccer

2709
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,360
fields on there at the younger age. Um

2710
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:00,960
it's kind of like with with stags, it

2711
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:01,760
does have

2712
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,239
>> just going the other direction across

2713
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:06,320
the controllers.

2714
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,639
>> Yeah. Um even even when you move it up

2715
01:46:08,639 --> 01:46:10,639
there, I mean you could put the the

2716
01:46:10,639 --> 01:46:12,719
field

2717
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:16,239
the U6 is really 90 by 90 feet. So the

2718
01:46:16,239 --> 01:46:18,639
farther closer the houses and as well I

2719
01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:20,719
put it on there where we've had that

2720
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:23,280
flag football field and then we had two

2721
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,679
uh U6 fields right next right next to it

2722
01:46:25,679 --> 01:46:28,719
too. So the turning of where the T- ball

2723
01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:30,080
is, if we kept it where it's at, we

2724
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,040
would still be able to do two uh soccer

2725
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:38,629
two soccer fields for our U6

2726
01:46:38,639 --> 01:46:44,870
is pretty small. Those fields

2727
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,639
that

2728
01:46:46,639 --> 01:46:47,920
it's just because we don't have the

2729
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,000
soccer goals there as it is kind of like

2730
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,400
a turtle where just flag would go to

2731
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:53,679
turtle and then

2732
01:46:53,679 --> 01:46:55,280
>> soccer would come here in the spring.

2733
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:58,000
Um, but it it won't be it'll be somewhat

2734
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,000
like stags where you have the baseball

2735
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,239
field and then the soccer. Can we get

2736
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:05,760
lights with the T-ball field? Kiss it.

2737
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:12,070
>> Can we light it?

2738
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:12,880
» Do we

2739
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,040
>> are we trying to to do this for a

2740
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:16,960
specific season?

2741
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,360
>> Like do we need to move this now to get

2742
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,719
it ready for winter?

2743
01:47:22,719 --> 01:47:24,880
>> No. by at this at this time. It's this

2744
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,800
is just this kind of the start of doing

2745
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,760
it. Um it wouldn't be for this season.

2746
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,320
Um

2747
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:33,199
>> year basically.

2748
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:34,159
>> Yeah.

2749
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:36,239
When we switched gears away from

2750
01:47:36,239 --> 01:47:41,199
Turtle Park um that um was taken off of

2751
01:47:41,199 --> 01:47:43,840
the capital improvement plan because

2752
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,119
we're in the re-evaluating stages. So

2753
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:49,360
this is to find out if this is something

2754
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,119
you're interested in and want us to

2755
01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:52,719
pursue.

2756
01:47:52,719 --> 01:47:54,400
adding back into that capital

2757
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,480
improvement plan.

2758
01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:59,679
But at the new location of Scout Park

2759
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:01,360
versus Turtle Park,

2760
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:05,119
>> you know, I would I would say that

2761
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:07,440
I don't know. I'm going to try to speak

2762
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,280
for I'm try to summarize what we're

2763
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:10,800
saying here.

2764
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,040
>> If it's not right, like we we like it,

2765
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,600
but we don't like it forever. Maybe it

2766
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,639
is something that we just

2767
01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:21,280
do

2768
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,080
with the expectation that when

2769
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:28,239
something's built in the corner

2770
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:30,560
or at some point hopefully in the near

2771
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,760
future that we do something with the

2772
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,480
whole park to make it more usable and

2773
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:39,920
approachable and friendly and not I mean

2774
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:41,360
kind of a lot of empty space that isn't

2775
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,000
really used with like a weird small

2776
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,480
children playground around that's half a

2777
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:49,040
mile away from any parking and no

2778
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:55,910
bathrooms.

2779
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,800
Since I guess we don't require um a

2780
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,480
decision at this point and we're talking

2781
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,080
about next year's capital improvement

2782
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:03,760
project, is there maybe an opportunity

2783
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:07,360
for us to weigh in on all the potential

2784
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,679
capital improvement options that we

2785
01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:11,360
would consider, whether that be the

2786
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:16,239
Hills Park, um this lighting maybe even

2787
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:18,400
or whatever else we might consider in

2788
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:22,480
terms of capital improve improvement and try to prioritize these things

2789
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:24,719
instead of like doing it up and down on

2790
01:49:24,719 --> 01:49:27,199
one item at a time.

2791
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,920
>> I from what I'm hearing and you guys

2792
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,679
were hearing it, it sounds like you guys

2793
01:49:31,679 --> 01:49:34,080
have decided now that this priority

2794
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,480
which was a priority is now back in the

2795
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:39,840
shuffle. And for us, I think maybe you

2796
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,520
guys correct me if I'm wrong, it would

2797
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,199
help us if you guys maybe rep

2798
01:49:43,199 --> 01:49:44,960
prioritized and told us since this one

2799
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:50,239
is now maybe not top priority given the options that we have, what would be

2800
01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:51,920
the top priority instead of

2801
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,840
>> Yeah, I don't think we had input into it

2802
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:55,920
being in the capital improvement budget

2803
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,880
in the first place.

2804
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,639
So that would tell you that it wasn't

2805
01:50:00,639 --> 01:50:02,639
our top priority. I don't think we had

2806
01:50:02,639 --> 01:50:05,280
an opportunity to make a priority list

2807
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,280
last time around.

2808
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,400
I mean, I do like that like we've had a

2809
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:14,080
lot of interest in the T-Bo program.

2810
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,199
Pat's telling us all the time and I do

2811
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:20,480
like improving our program for our

2812
01:50:20,480 --> 01:50:23,199
sports.

2813
01:50:23,199 --> 01:50:24,880
Like I don't think any of us disagree

2814
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,400
with that like making the is the sports

2815
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,880
program better. It's it's more just the

2816
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,159
way

2817
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:33,920
>> I so feel like it's part of a master

2818
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,560
plan part like it's not like It feels

2819
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,480
like we're throwing it there because we

2820
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:39,920
Yeah, let's have a theme ball park, but

2821
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,080
like it's like I think this park is

2822
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,960
weird, right?

2823
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,600
>> It's reactionary without a full plan

2824
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,520
>> and like is it just going to get undone

2825
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:51,280
in five years when we decide to do

2826
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:52,400
something else with that, you know? I

2827
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:52,960
mean, just

2828
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:57,040
>> it probably will honest like cuz

2829
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:58,639
>> why from turtle?

2830
01:50:58,639 --> 01:51:00,159
>> What's that? What would be like

2831
01:51:00,159 --> 01:51:01,760
>> why didn't why because this was

2832
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:03,440
originally going to go at Turtle and I

2833
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:06,400
can't remember why that got squashed.

2834
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:06,880
>> Yeah.

2835
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,040
>> Um I think it was a couple of reasons.

2836
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,360
That back stop at Turtle

2837
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,400
>> is in disrepair and the one at Scout is

2838
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,040
in great condition and T-ball size.

2839
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,159
Correct me if I'm wrong.

2840
01:51:18,159 --> 01:51:21,679
>> Yeah. And then also um when we talked

2841
01:51:21,679 --> 01:51:24,639
there was some considerations about the

2842
01:51:24,639 --> 01:51:28,000
aesthetic of coming into the community

2843
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,880
at that location. That's a big inn and

2844
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,159
out area to enter Lichville Park and

2845
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:36,960
there were some concerns about how that

2846
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,040
dirt lot would look there at Turtle

2847
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,400
Park.

2848
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,639
>> So now it's going to another So the

2849
01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:45,040
concern sounds like because it's going

2850
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,320
to another main area. I'm just afraid

2851
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:49,520
that we're going to hear the same thing

2852
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,520
because I I remember that being talked

2853
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,599
about the street.

2854
01:51:53,599 --> 01:51:55,440
>> I don't disagree. I was just curious

2855
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:56,639
about that because I thought that that

2856
01:51:56,639 --> 01:52:00,800
was part of the problem before, but I I couldn't completely remember. Yeah,

2857
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,320
>> I didn't like the one Turtle Park

2858
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,000
because it was so close to that.

2859
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,199
>> Too close to the road. I agree.

2860
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:08,000
>> That main road

2861
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:09,920
with with Pat's, you know, how much he

2862
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,679
works with all of our sports and field

2863
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:13,119
scheduling, all this kind of stuff. I'm

2864
01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:14,880
curious to hear like what's your opinion

2865
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,320
on this Pat?

2866
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:17,840
you work with us more than any of us

2867
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,119
probably, right?

2868
01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:22,239
>> Yeah. So, I think and also another thing

2869
01:52:22,239 --> 01:52:24,960
why we we chose Scout was for because we

2870
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,119
have used it in the past for T-Bo when

2871
01:52:27,119 --> 01:52:30,400
we had to close and we thought um to

2872
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,400
kind of change it from Turtle Park being

2873
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:33,760
right there by the main road and main

2874
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:35,760
entrance. This was still somewhat tucked

2875
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,320
in and away from where people kind of

2876
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,880
enter. Um, granted, yes, there is the

2877
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,800
across the street going to be the

2878
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:44,880
parking lot and so people would see it,

2879
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,960
but it's still not one of the parks by

2880
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:50,000
the main entrances. Um, I think

2881
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,719
obviously this is a good area for that

2882
01:52:52,719 --> 01:52:54,320
because

2883
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:58,560
we do have, you know, the shape of the

2884
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,480
park right now where the grass area is,

2885
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:04,480
it is tough and it to put bigger size

2886
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:07,360
fields like the flag football where we

2887
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,760
do have we did extend the flag football

2888
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,599
to do a

2889
01:53:11,599 --> 01:53:14,800
uh older age group to go 10 to 12. So we

2890
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,360
have a nine age group. they're following

2891
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:18,880
right after them. So you're going to

2892
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:20,800
have one game you could be at a full 300

2893
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,040
and then the next game I mean if you

2894
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,320
look at it doesn't look that much

2895
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,239
different but it's still like probably

2896
01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:28,000
about 30 feet shorter than the other

2897
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,320
because we were not able to fit two

2898
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,599
fields at scout which you know it does

2899
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:35,199
come into play in the fall because we

2900
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:38,080
moved both flags footballs there because

2901
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,080
for the because of overseating and then

2902
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,440
it's there in the spring because the

2903
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:45,199
soccer is being used for count back in

2904
01:53:45,199 --> 01:53:48,480
Aleppo. So by moving the here instead of

2905
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:50,480
at Turtle, we are possibly able to put

2906
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:54,239
two football fields at that location

2907
01:53:54,239 --> 01:53:56,000
that are the same size so that if you

2908
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,800
are the 8 to9 age group, you are playing

2909
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,360
on the same size field rather than one

2910
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,360
week a bigger field, one week the other

2911
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:03,599
field.

2912
01:54:03,599 --> 01:54:06,000
>> So a putting a T-ball field at Scout

2913
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,760
Park is helpful for your facilities

2914
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:08,880
usage.

2915
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:10,960
B, do you agree with putting it in that

2916
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,480
corner from a standpoint of families and

2917
01:54:14,480 --> 01:54:17,599
access and parking and all of the above?

2918
01:54:17,599 --> 01:54:19,440
>> You have the parking it is if you by

2919
01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:20,719
putting it where it's at, you have the

2920
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:22,639
parking that's across the street by the

2921
01:54:22,639 --> 01:54:25,280
current lodge where it's a shorter walk

2922
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,760
if you and it's a lot and I've found

2923
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,840
this out with Aleppo. We you still try

2924
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,080
to open up the parking lot by the

2925
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,599
baseball fields in Millennium to try to

2926
01:54:33,599 --> 01:54:35,599
help with that. People still park there

2927
01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:38,480
because it's a long walk. I know it's

2928
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,159
thinking about it, it's not that far. If

2929
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:42,320
you and in hindsight of it, but if it's

2930
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:43,920
a shorter walk, it's going to be a lot

2931
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:47,119
easier for parents to use. You still

2932
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:49,599
have the kids with the younger age

2933
01:54:49,599 --> 01:54:52,400
groups where if child if they're not

2934
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,320
playing T-ball, they're at the

2935
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,800
playground while their kid parents are

2936
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,639
watching it. So, right there, it's the

2937
01:54:58,639 --> 01:55:02,159
closer uh proximity as well to the

2938
01:55:02,159 --> 01:55:03,440
playground would be. It's kind of like

2939
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,840
with stags, we do have parents that they

2940
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:07,840
are watching their kids, but there are

2941
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:09,520
other kids that are playing on the

2942
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,080
playground right behind there. So that

2943
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,119
location does kind of remedy all sides

2944
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:17,840
of it aspects of that too. So I think

2945
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,560
the sum of it for now is we're not it's

2946
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,719
disallocated from capital improvement.

2947
01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:25,280
In the interim, we can do t- ball on the

2948
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:26,639
grass because there's no other choice.

2949
01:55:26,639 --> 01:55:28,800
There's no money to be spent on it now

2950
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,480
and we need to go into a new capital

2951
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,080
improvement

2952
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,639
pole and have overall priorities for

2953
01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:36,880
that we think were right for the

2954
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,880
community. Is that

2955
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,880
>> Yeah. Even if we go to the planning for

2956
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,679
budget season and we make this ask if if

2957
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:48,159
you guys were all good with it, even if

2958
01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:50,719
we make the ask, that doesn't guarantee

2959
01:55:50,719 --> 01:55:53,040
that that's going to be put on fiscal

2960
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,840
year 28 budget or and it doesn't

2961
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,679
guarantee even if it's put within the

2962
01:55:57,679 --> 01:56:00,320
five years of budget that council is

2963
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,239
ultimately going to say this is a

2964
01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:05,920
strategic priority as well. So, I mean,

2965
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,280
this is now the the time to discuss what

2966
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,599
you guys are interested in. We I mean,

2967
01:56:11,599 --> 01:56:14,000
we're coming with you with with ideas.

2968
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,639
It doesn't mean that you have to accept

2969
01:56:16,639 --> 01:56:18,560
them. They're just thoughts that come to

2970
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:21,520
us through our programming needs. And

2971
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:23,760
again, this may be a great opportunity

2972
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,960
while public grounds is is re-evaluating

2973
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,360
some of their uh grounds and how they're

2974
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,480
handling irrigation to say what do we

2975
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,080
ultimately want to do with this

2976
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:35,920
particular park or with each of our

2977
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,639
parks? What do we see the needs of the

2978
01:56:38,639 --> 01:56:41,520
community at each of these parks being?

2979
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,520
So maybe these are the discussions that

2980
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,800
you as a commission want to start having

2981
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,760
so that we can keep taking those back to

2982
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,800
city administration and city council.

2983
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,840
>> I think to your point earlier Schwarz is

2984
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,599
that like we ought we didn't we're doing

2985
01:56:57,599 --> 01:56:59,840
things peace meal point.

2986
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,960
>> So whatever we decide that we are

2987
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,920
spending the taxpayers money on we ought

2988
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,480
to say that's the thing that's the part

2989
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,199
that fits into the greater hole.

2990
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:12,880
that we've designed for the next 10

2991
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:16,080
years lest we go and move it somewhere

2992
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,080
for now and move it somewhere else

2993
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:23,669
later. None of that's free.

2994
01:57:23,679 --> 01:57:25,280
I agree. I mean I think at a bare

2995
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:29,360
minimum we do this but we should try to

2996
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:33,440
do more you know as a part of the whole

2997
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:34,880
especially knowing about the irrigation

2998
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,560
issues.

2999
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,679
>> Are there is this the only park that has

3000
01:57:39,679 --> 01:57:42,159
like irrigation revamp as part of a plan

3001
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:44,000
that we ought to consider or is that a

3002
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,119
concern elsewhere?

3003
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:47,199
>> There's not exactly a plan is the

3004
01:57:47,199 --> 01:57:49,520
problem. It's currently an audit and

3005
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,400
then I'm going to present the exactly

3006
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,400
like you said the priority list and

3007
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,320
someone's going to tell me yes to those

3008
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:58,320
three which fits in the budget. Um

3009
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:00,159
because currently all of our systems

3010
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:02,639
besides LS are probably at least close

3011
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:03,760
to 20 years old.

3012
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,440
>> So I guess my question is where are you

3013
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,360
going to tear stuff up anyway? you know,

3014
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:08,080
and

3015
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:09,840
>> and the question I was going to ask is,

3016
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,199
you know, you you've talked about

3017
01:58:11,199 --> 01:58:13,840
programming this weird space. Why are we

3018
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:15,920
trying to fit more into it? What if we

3019
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,920
just use the space around it and it's

3020
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,639
just a square? It's easier for me to to

3021
01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:22,800
maintain. It's easier to engineer a

3022
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:24,960
system around a rectangle and it's

3023
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,440
easier for you to program fields within

3024
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:30,320
a rectangle as well. So, for me, I don't

3025
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,400
consider irrigation. I don't consider

3026
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,800
the the back stop. I look at the shape

3027
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,400
of the park and what is the overall

3028
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:37,760
picture of it and we can't decide

3029
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,931
because it's in a weird shape

3030
01:58:39,931 --> 01:58:41,199
[clears throat] right now and we need to

3031
01:58:41,199 --> 01:58:42,719
lay the the base layer the

3032
01:58:42,719 --> 01:58:44,560
infrastructure for people and

3033
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,239
commissioners years to come to make

3034
01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:48,000
those decisions. Right now I feel like

3035
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,760
the infrastructure is not worth

3036
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,639
investing in until we correct that.

3037
01:58:52,639 --> 01:58:55,599
So what what would be the first step in

3038
01:58:55,599 --> 01:58:58,239
initiating the T-Buff or the I guess it

3039
01:58:58,239 --> 01:59:00,800
would be for next spring, but would it

3040
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,119
just be a matter of

3041
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:08,080
directing the directing you guys to

3042
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,280
investigate or to take to counsel? Is

3043
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:14,320
that what it would be?

3044
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,199
I think what I'm hearing from you guys

3045
01:59:17,199 --> 01:59:21,280
as a commission as a whole is you want

3046
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,400
you're thinking more how are we using

3047
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,199
each of our parks or how do we envision

3048
01:59:27,199 --> 01:59:29,920
the community using

3049
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:34,719
Camelback and Scout and Stags.

3050
01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:37,440
It feels like a a a bigger discussion.

3051
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,480
You're right. It's if it's coming at you

3052
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:43,520
peace meal and we're starting to think

3053
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,080
now how can we get the big picture of

3054
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:49,119
all of our parks and and what do we want

3055
01:59:49,119 --> 01:59:51,520
for them in general and then obviously

3056
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:53,840
public grounds and whatever they take

3057
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:56,080
care of plays into that. Programming

3058
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,639
plays into that. Free play and community

3059
01:59:58,639 --> 02:00:02,320
use play into that. and and

3060
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,159
that's where you guys can help us

3061
02:00:04,159 --> 02:00:05,679
identify

3062
02:00:05,679 --> 02:00:09,599
what is the city envision for each

3063
02:00:09,599 --> 02:00:11,040
park's use.

3064
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,760
>> And from my internal understandings from

3065
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:15,760
the new Hilltop Park that's being

3066
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:19,280
designed or has 100% design phase, no

3067
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,320
one wants no, let me back up.

3068
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,679
>> The intent for that park is to not be as

3069
02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:28,239
recreationally programmable as these

3070
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:30,719
parks are. So for me, this is an

3071
02:00:30,719 --> 02:00:32,960
opportunity aesthetically aside where

3072
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,960
you should reinvest into the

3073
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:37,040
recreational aspects of your parks

3074
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:38,560
because your future parks that we're

3075
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,080
building, we're not necessarily building

3076
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:41,599
these amenities in them. We're not going

3077
02:00:41,599 --> 02:00:43,599
to have a chance to revamp them then.

3078
02:00:43,599 --> 02:00:44,400
>> Yeah,

3079
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,800
>> we've got between so the budget cycle

3080
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:48,880
for planning starts December, January,

3081
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:50,560
we essentially have four more meetings

3082
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,400
that we got to figure out how we do

3083
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,800
something in that time span, right?

3084
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:56,400
Because then we just come next month and

3085
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:57,920
go like, "Yeah, we should talk about

3086
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,760
that some more." Another month goes by.

3087
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,560
So, how do we structure that whether

3088
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,560
it's a working session or something else

3089
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:09,360
so that we can plan a park or at least

3090
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:12,239
have an idea of what we would like to

3091
02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:16,560
present as viable like wise use of

3092
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,440
funds. Um, this fits into the larger

3093
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:22,800
plan proposals for capital improvement.

3094
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:26,880
I don't That's maybe we should speak to

3095
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:29,280
next month with

3096
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:31,199
or do a working session between then

3097
02:01:31,199 --> 02:01:33,760
like I don't know I think we should

3098
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:35,440
approach that.

3099
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:37,119
>> I think as a commission like we don't

3100
02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:39,599
totally understand

3101
02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:42,800
>> the issues with thesebody

3102
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,119
pay grade

3103
02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:46,320
>> not to be funny but

3104
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,480
>> sure. Yeah. But like so what do we do to

3105
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:51,280
say not our problem?

3106
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,440
>> I think we have options. I I think an

3107
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:56,000
option is to say, okay,

3108
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:00,480
>> we can suggest to council or ask council

3109
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:03,760
to inquire or something to this effect

3110
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,239
what what goes into

3111
02:02:06,239 --> 02:02:09,360
the transition to the T-ball field and

3112
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,199
scout in the corner where it's

3113
02:02:11,199 --> 02:02:15,360
designated now. And then while that

3114
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:17,599
investigation is being done, then we're

3115
02:02:17,599 --> 02:02:20,320
I guess still waiting for that

3116
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:21,599
information. But when we get that

3117
02:02:21,599 --> 02:02:24,000
information,

3118
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,239
we would then be suggesting to move

3119
02:02:26,239 --> 02:02:29,040
forward with

3120
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,719
build the T-ball field there.

3121
02:02:32,719 --> 02:02:34,320
I think though I thought we said that

3122
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:36,639
we'd like to kind of envision the plan

3123
02:02:36,639 --> 02:02:39,280
for the whole park the long term. I I

3124
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:40,880
don't know that it's worth doing

3125
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,920
something short term. Is it more

3126
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:45,760
important to understand what the

3127
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:49,040
longterm plan is for the park? Well, and

3128
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,960
especially if Kevin starts moving

3129
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,360
irrigation equipment in there. If that

3130
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:54,159
happens,

3131
02:02:54,159 --> 02:02:55,440
>> he says, "I got to tear this whole park

3132
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:58,000
up." You guys got to blink slakes. It's

3133
02:02:58,000 --> 02:02:58,719
all got to go.

3134
02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:00,480
>> Well, and that's how this park started

3135
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,840
like 15 years ago. If you remember,

3136
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:05,679
>> it was sort of just we're just going to

3137
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:08,000
do this and see what happens because we

3138
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,360
have to do something. We can't have

3139
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,080
dirt. There was other

3140
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,080
>> Yeah, there were other things, but you

3141
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,639
know, it was sort of a a we got to do

3142
02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:19,520
something now. And that's what they did.

3143
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:24,560
So, could you still play there, Pat? If

3144
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:26,960
like now, could you play T-ball there on

3145
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:29,119
the grass? You can, right?

3146
02:03:29,119 --> 02:03:32,639
>> I do. Yeah, that's this is where

3147
02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:34,480
with overseeing we do use it. It just

3148
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,360
comes down to uh placement. I mean,

3149
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,440
right now we have it worked out where I

3150
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,760
could just use uh

3151
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:43,760
turtle and stuff, but flag does move

3152
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:46,159
there for for that, but I would be able

3153
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:48,960
to do a probably a season and stuff

3154
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,480
there. Um it's just eventually would

3155
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:54,880
need to go to a field some at some point

3156
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,320
and stuff. Right.

3157
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:59,119
>> Yeah, because I I can see that there's a

3158
02:03:59,119 --> 02:04:02,000
need because of numbers and shifting and

3159
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,920
grass and everything for this. So, I

3160
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,080
mean, we don't want to step on your toes

3161
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,880
completely because of that.

3162
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:13,360
>> No, I mean this by by doing this, it

3163
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:15,040
would really just kind of open up the

3164
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:18,880
winter coach Fitch season where um as I

3165
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,679
mentioned, obviously it's a when we go

3166
02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:23,360
to Turtle Park or anything like that

3167
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:26,000
from Stags Park, it's only like a couple

3168
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:28,960
weeks. So, it's not really a big issue

3169
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,679
of going from a field to the grass, but

3170
02:04:31,679 --> 02:04:33,599
having all seven games or something from

3171
02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:36,239
grass and make it work. And if that's

3172
02:04:36,239 --> 02:04:37,920
something that we have to do for until

3173
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:40,159
then, we could. It's just it' be nice to

3174
02:04:40,159 --> 02:04:42,320
have kind of a T-ball field, especially

3175
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:44,000
for the younger age groups

3176
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,560
>> or that five and six that you know, hey,

3177
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:48,480
this is what it is. Yeah.

3178
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:52,080
>> Developmental and it is a different feel

3179
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:57,199
from baseball field to just a grass. So,

3180
02:04:57,199 --> 02:04:59,520
Do we have the possibility to do a work

3181
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:02,719
study where we can get some outreach or

3182
02:05:02,719 --> 02:05:04,960
some citizen input that would give us

3183
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:06,719
some of that direction into this

3184
02:05:06,719 --> 02:05:09,199
specific park and what their the

3185
02:05:09,199 --> 02:05:10,960
community is looking for or what their

3186
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:13,360
wish or direction would be because maybe

3187
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,440
that's momentum to pair into this

3188
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,199
project and we turn it into an overall

3189
02:05:19,199 --> 02:05:22,761
CIP of the this park itself paired

3190
02:05:22,761 --> 02:05:25,199
[snorts] with the field paired with the

3191
02:05:25,199 --> 02:05:27,119
irrigation system paired with a new

3192
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:29,599
design that's more functional. Um, but

3193
02:05:29,599 --> 02:05:31,280
I'd be curious just to see what the

3194
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:32,800
residents and the people who are using

3195
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:37,599
it, what they would be interested in.

3196
02:05:37,599 --> 02:05:39,119
Maybe we could start with doing

3197
02:05:39,119 --> 02:05:41,280
something online

3198
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:44,639
and just getting input on it. You know,

3199
02:05:44,639 --> 02:05:47,040
we're starting to look at Scout Park

3200
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,840
and, you know, the SC new Scout Lodge is

3201
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:53,280
going in and what what do you think? you

3202
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,760
know, and maybe we could get it from our

3203
02:05:55,760 --> 02:06:01,510
social media and stuff like that first.

3204
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:02,960
» Feel like to go to the public, they

3205
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:04,960
should at least have some options or

3206
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,280
>> I don't want to just open

3207
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,920
the floodgate.

3208
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:11,599
>> That'll be the first.

3209
02:06:11,599 --> 02:06:13,520
>> Yeah.

3210
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:14,239
>> I don't know.

3211
02:06:14,239 --> 02:06:17,119
>> Um, so yeah. Is that something that we

3212
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:19,119
could do with Yosha? Is that something

3213
02:06:19,119 --> 02:06:20,639
that we would do in a work study?

3214
02:06:20,639 --> 02:06:23,199
>> Survey time, baby. I'm new here, so just

3215
02:06:23,199 --> 02:06:23,520
excuse.

3216
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:25,920
>> We've done surveys before. In fact, we

3217
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:28,000
had a survey for this very park. I think

3218
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:29,599
>> Yeah, we sure did.

3219
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:31,119
>> 15

3220
02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:32,800
going into southeast corner

3221
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:34,800
>> basketball number five and we didn't do

3222
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:36,400
it and we were supposed to do the top. I

3223
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:40,320
think we'll have staff get together um

3224
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:42,960
the departments that doing something

3225
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,920
like this would affect with with um

3226
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:50,560
wreck and grounds and planning and our

3227
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:54,560
um city engineer. Um and talk about what

3228
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:57,040
things at that park

3229
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,440
would our specific departments benefit

3230
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,119
from having or um

3231
02:07:03,119 --> 02:07:05,920
what is hindering us. each department

3232
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:08,880
wise from making best use of this

3233
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,119
particular park. And once we have that,

3234
02:07:11,119 --> 02:07:13,920
we could talk to city admin and and see

3235
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:16,239
if

3236
02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:19,520
um he would want to have your commission

3237
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:21,760
do a work study or if they want to

3238
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,800
further have um internal staff

3239
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:27,679
discussions before we get to that stage

3240
02:07:27,679 --> 02:07:30,480
yet. because it sounds like there's a

3241
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,960
lot more pieces than just this

3242
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:34,560
playground that we really need to think

3243
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:35,760
about.

3244
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:38,320
>> And am I right in that we'd probably

3245
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:41,599
like to hear what the what if there is

3246
02:07:41,599 --> 02:07:44,320
like a 10-year plan or, you know,

3247
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,960
fiveyear plan on the parks in general. I

3248
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:48,480
mean, I think Pat's done a really good

3249
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:50,719
job of saying, you know, to have this

3250
02:07:50,719 --> 02:07:53,280
T-ball increases our programming

3251
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,880
capacity and here's why. But I think

3252
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:58,800
what we're looking for is maybe how that

3253
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:00,560
fits into the

3254
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:02,480
>> big picture. the big picture

3255
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:04,239
>> when you want to look out. I mean the

3256
02:08:04,239 --> 02:08:06,480
trends are they're borrowed from pro

3257
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:11,350
sports and again girls

3258
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:12,800
black football especially girls black

3259
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:15,040
flag football is growing right that's

3260
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,480
like so we're going to talk about

3261
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:18,159
programs in the future we should look at

3262
02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:21,119
that as something that's accommodating

3263
02:08:21,119 --> 02:08:22,480
>> I don't know with tennis I don't know

3264
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,000
that we put more tennis courts in that

3265
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:28,149
might be very difficult

3266
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:29,440
but there's I mean there's a whole half

3267
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,440
of the park that's not being used and I

3268
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,000
understand like I mean it used to be a

3269
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,880
big square

3270
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:40,880
with just basketball and volleyball out

3271
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:41,360
there

3272
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:44,000
>> and then a weird tiny playground.

3273
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:45,040
>> Yeah.

3274
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:47,599
>> And now I mean it's cut I know they cut

3275
02:08:47,599 --> 02:08:50,239
off the corner for building a community

3276
02:08:50,239 --> 02:08:52,159
center or Scout Lodge or some

3277
02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:53,760
combination of that. But that's been put

3278
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:54,560
on hold.

3279
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:56,000
>> No, it's being built.

3280
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:56,480
>> It is.

3281
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:57,440
>> Uhhuh. Scout Lodge.

3282
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:58,560
>> Scout Lodge. Yep.

3283
02:08:58,560 --> 02:08:59,199
>> Oh, good.

3284
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:00,639
>> Southeast corner of Scout Lodge.

3285
02:09:00,639 --> 02:09:02,960
>> Yeah. Right. Well, then it's time to

3286
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:04,800
start thinking about the park. Yeah.

3287
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:05,360
What's the rest of

3288
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:08,079
>> the so much less on hold because we

3289
02:09:08,079 --> 02:09:09,520
don't know what's going to happen.

3290
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:10,000
>> Yeah.

3291
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:11,440
>> But if that's going forward

3292
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:15,599
>> in maybe that would be a good

3293
02:09:15,599 --> 02:09:20,320
>> Do we have um uh at least the the Scout

3294
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,159
Lodge like how that's going to sit on

3295
02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:24,239
there? I know we've seen it over the

3296
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:25,599
years at this point, but I don't know.

3297
02:09:25,599 --> 02:09:27,760
>> I have a picture of it in my email.

3298
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:29,040
>> How long ago was it?

3299
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:30,000
>> Uh last week.

3300
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,560
>> Oh, okay.

3301
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:33,679
Right on.

3302
02:09:33,679 --> 02:09:36,880
>> So is the action to table this until we

3303
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:38,079
have more information about the future

3304
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:39,440
of the park?

3305
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:41,760
>> Yeah, I think Teresa's suggestion to

3306
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:45,920
work get more info for us from their end

3307
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:48,880
from the professionals and you know just

3308
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:50,800
get those pieces and maybe bring them

3309
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:54,880
back to us and then that will help us go

3310
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:56,800
okay this is really what we need to do.

3311
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:58,960
Yeah, we'll coordinate internally on

3312
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:03,360
discussions about timing like what when

3313
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:07,679
is the timing estimated for scout lodge?

3314
02:10:07,679 --> 02:10:10,719
What is ideal timing for redoing

3315
02:10:10,719 --> 02:10:14,239
irrigation and infrastructure? What is

3316
02:10:14,239 --> 02:10:18,639
best for sports? I mean, I think for for

3317
02:10:18,639 --> 02:10:22,560
us for sports, we can kind of piggyback

3318
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,840
on all these other bigger things. So, u

3319
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:28,000
pushing forward like you said, as much

3320
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:30,880
as we would love to have it, we can also

3321
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:33,840
be re realistic and know that um there

3322
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,480
might be better timing for it.

3323
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,800
>> I do think it's it's probably best to do

3324
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,040
like a two prompt and have part of it

3325
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:42,639
just for now even though you know it's

3326
02:10:42,639 --> 02:10:44,400
not great because we're going to have

3327
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:47,119
camel back park that's extended and I

3328
02:10:47,119 --> 02:10:52,069
know that's you know priority

3329
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:54,560
but we could start planning this

3330
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:56,320
But like I don't want to delay expanding

3331
02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:58,560
our programs for two, three years. If we

3332
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,760
can just pull out a piece of the dirt

3333
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:03,599
and move this thing and it's 10 grand

3334
02:11:03,599 --> 02:11:06,079
and we get, you know, two extra years of

3335
02:11:06,079 --> 02:11:07,679
programming and

3336
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:09,360
>> grand we all go out and work on it

3337
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:12,790
together this

3338
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:14,480
» maybe.

3339
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:16,000
>> Right. Yeah. And I have to bring a

3340
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:16,639
couple guys.

3341
02:11:16,639 --> 02:11:18,480
>> Yeah.

3342
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,679
>> This got pl there's not 10 grand for it

3343
02:11:21,679 --> 02:11:25,119
right now anyway. whatever it is.

3344
02:11:25,119 --> 02:11:26,719
>> Yeah. But I just I just mean that I

3345
02:11:26,719 --> 02:11:28,079
don't think we should like we should

3346
02:11:28,079 --> 02:11:29,920
look at we should do it too prompt. Like

3347
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:31,920
we should look at the overall picture of

3348
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,719
it, but also like it's not a huge

3349
02:11:34,719 --> 02:11:38,880
project to put in a dirt infield and

3350
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:41,920
move the back stop 10 ft.

3351
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,639
Like that's that's not a huge it's not a

3352
02:11:44,639 --> 02:11:46,480
huge thing. It's not much different than

3353
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,040
it is now.

3354
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:51,280
And and you were looking to begin

3355
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,520
programming on these fields in the

3356
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:55,199
springtime, correct?

3357
02:11:55,199 --> 02:11:58,400
>> No, this was just once once I we got

3358
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,040
word that you guys gave the okay and

3359
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:03,040
then council or where would the next

3360
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:05,760
process give the okay, it I don't have

3361
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:07,599
anything set in planned this current

3362
02:12:07,599 --> 02:12:09,360
fiscal year to start that.

3363
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,119
>> It's not on this year's capital

3364
02:12:11,119 --> 02:12:12,960
improvement budget. So it' be a a

3365
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,520
looking forward kind of thing.

3366
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:16,239
>> We got time.

3367
02:12:16,239 --> 02:12:17,520
>> That was kind of my point home. We've

3368
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:20,000
got book December. We want to weigh in

3369
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,560
on capital improvement stuff. We need to

3370
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:24,480
start thinking about that now. Yeah.

3371
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,560
>> Whether it's this park or just generally

3372
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:28,880
speaking like if you had

3373
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:31,280
>> one dropped quarter million dollars in

3374
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:32,560
our pocket, where would we spend it? I'm

3375
02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:33,760
not saying we have that kind of money,

3376
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:36,239
but like that's how we should think

3377
02:12:36,239 --> 02:12:38,320
about it.

3378
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:40,000
>> Yeah. I think this is the next park that

3379
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,719
needs a re redesign

3380
02:12:42,719 --> 02:12:46,159
for sure and we should look at overall

3381
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:49,599
design for it.

3382
02:12:49,599 --> 02:12:51,119
>> Is there anything else? We don't need

3383
02:12:51,119 --> 02:12:52,560
input on anything else we're doing for

3384
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:54,400
counterback. I mean it's grass to the

3385
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:56,079
wall, right? It's like as the plan.

3386
02:12:56,079 --> 02:12:58,239
>> No, it's not grass to the wall finally

3387
02:12:58,239 --> 02:12:59,520
because we're not going to redo the

3388
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:01,599
stucco every year. Um, we're going to

3389
02:13:01,599 --> 02:13:03,920
have a walking path where some

3390
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:06,880
>> are because the water and the stucco

3391
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:08,159
just aren't a great mix.

3392
02:13:08,159 --> 02:13:10,079
>> But it's but it's like it's okay. It's

3393
02:13:10,079 --> 02:13:11,280
we know what we're doing.

3394
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:12,639
>> Yeah. We're not going to adjust the

3395
02:13:12,639 --> 02:13:14,239
landscaping essentially. We're just

3396
02:13:14,239 --> 02:13:16,239
widening the wall, creating a buffer

3397
02:13:16,239 --> 02:13:18,400
walking path, and then potentially uh

3398
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:19,679
replanting any trees that were

3399
02:13:19,679 --> 02:13:21,520
disturbed.

3400
02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:23,679
>> Yeah, they actually

3401
02:13:23,679 --> 02:13:25,679
>> that we are in the process of reordering

3402
02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:28,400
because uh we need a new style. So yeah,

3403
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:29,679
I've been reaching out to all those

3404
02:13:29,679 --> 02:13:31,520
vendors this week.

3405
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:33,840
>> So is there anything else we need to

3406
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,079
kind of say to move on from this?

3407
02:13:36,079 --> 02:13:38,880
>> No, talked about it enough.

3408
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:44,159
>> So, but to Kristoff's point, can we

3409
02:13:44,159 --> 02:13:46,079
>> can we put it on next month's agenda to

3410
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:47,840
review

3411
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,000
capital improvements that impact the

3412
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:52,960
parks? And that we can at least give our

3413
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,560
recommendations on what's upcoming.

3414
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:58,960
>> Yeah. and review to the information that

3415
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:00,320
Trisha will bring us.

3416
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,960
>> That's spring stuff. Oh, no. That's

3417
02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:05,679
good. You mean like

3418
02:14:05,679 --> 02:14:07,119
>> Sorry, I'm getting things mixed up.

3419
02:14:07,119 --> 02:14:08,400
Which information?

3420
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:10,800
>> Well, she was going to talk to the staff

3421
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:11,599
and the

3422
02:14:11,599 --> 02:14:13,520
>> what the priorities are. I think was

3423
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:16,400
kind of a driving and we'll review our

3424
02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:18,560
>> give you an update next as to where

3425
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:19,199
we're at

3426
02:14:19,199 --> 02:14:21,520
>> and the plans for Scout Lodge is going

3427
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:22,800
to be shared with us as well.

3428
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:24,639
>> Yeah, you can see my phone.

3429
02:14:24,639 --> 02:14:27,760
>> Well, never mind.

3430
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:29,840
Yeah, I don't know. You guys seem to be

3431
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:31,679
closer in the loop than us. I've heard

3432
02:14:31,679 --> 02:14:33,360
Scout Lodge is coming and going both

3433
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:36,320
ways. So, um, as of this week, I now

3434
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:38,719
hear it's back on. Two weeks ago, it

3435
02:14:38,719 --> 02:14:40,239
wasn't. I Yeah, I'm

3436
02:14:40,239 --> 02:14:41,760
>> I'm gonna wait till I see ground broken

3437
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:43,440
until I

3438
02:14:43,440 --> 02:14:45,760
>> But the the construction is great timing

3439
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:49,920
with this park and renovations for

3440
02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:51,840
>> Why is that parking?

3441
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:53,199
>> Should we move along, Anthony?

3442
02:14:53,199 --> 02:14:54,880
>> I think we can. Are there any other

3443
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:56,880
points that anybody wants to make before

3444
02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:58,239
we do any questions or

3445
02:14:58,239 --> 02:14:59,440
>> we want to look at capital improvements

3446
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:01,440
at some point or like overall not I'm

3447
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:03,040
not talking about scouts park

3448
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:04,400
specifically just overall is that

3449
02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:05,679
something we want to put on the agenda?

3450
02:15:05,679 --> 02:15:07,199
I think that's a good idea because I

3451
02:15:07,199 --> 02:15:09,679
think it helps give context to, you

3452
02:15:09,679 --> 02:15:12,159
know, how we would make the decision on

3453
02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:14,480
>> construction

3454
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:19,669
or

3455
02:15:19,679 --> 02:15:21,599
» you know where we are guys.

3456
02:15:21,599 --> 02:15:25,119
Commissioners report on current events.

3457
02:15:25,119 --> 02:15:29,750
I know everybody wants to go first.

3458
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:30,480
» Are you ready?

3459
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:33,199
>> I'm ready. All right. Um the Fourth of

3460
02:15:33,199 --> 02:15:35,360
July celebration was fantastic. It was

3461
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:39,440
packed and it was great and um I think

3462
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:41,679
it turned out really well. Um I I heard

3463
02:15:41,679 --> 02:15:44,639
a lot of good buzz about that. Um you

3464
02:15:44,639 --> 02:15:46,639
can tell how hard you guys are working

3465
02:15:46,639 --> 02:15:49,199
everywhere because it it shows it shows

3466
02:15:49,199 --> 02:15:52,400
in every every corner of of all the

3467
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:54,079
different areas of Witchfield that you

3468
02:15:54,079 --> 02:15:56,320
guys are are working your butts off and

3469
02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:59,119
that certainly um shows. But I'm going

3470
02:15:59,119 --> 02:16:01,119
to bring up what I always bring up and

3471
02:16:01,119 --> 02:16:03,679
that is crosswalk right here. crosswalk

3472
02:16:03,679 --> 02:16:08,560
on desert speed bumps old fielda desert

3473
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:10,400
where they're needed. So because I'm not

3474
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:14,159
gonna not bring up the chance to I'm all

3475
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:15,199
done.

3476
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:18,639
>> Right on sir.

3477
02:16:18,639 --> 02:16:20,960
I would love to see painting on the

3478
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:23,040
streets to slow down the traffic to make

3479
02:16:23,040 --> 02:16:24,960
the lanes

3480
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:26,560
narrow

3481
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:30,079
so speed bumps just always

3482
02:16:30,079 --> 02:16:32,399
>> I know I know I hear about it but me

3483
02:16:32,399 --> 02:16:34,399
living on a corner where it's speed

3484
02:16:34,399 --> 02:16:37,280
demons I would not be sad to see them

3485
02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:41,750
there.

3486
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:43,760
» Kevin, I appreciate you being here. I

3487
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:46,080
think you breathed new life into our

3488
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:48,000
commission. We're kind of getting ahead

3489
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:49,280
of ourselves a little bit, but I look

3490
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:51,040
forward to seeing what you're doing,

3491
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:56,000
Trisha. I appreciate you guys stuff.

3492
02:16:56,000 --> 02:17:01,669
>> Thank you. At home court, I know.

3493
02:17:01,679 --> 02:17:04,719
» I'm good. Thank you guys.

3494
02:17:04,719 --> 02:17:06,960
>> Uh, notwithstanding all the storm

3495
02:17:06,960 --> 02:17:08,319
damage, things are looking nice. I'm

3496
02:17:08,319 --> 02:17:10,639
looking forward to the the I appreciate

3497
02:17:10,639 --> 02:17:13,200
the damage before the beauty on on

3498
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:15,599
again. How apparently your yard looks

3499
02:17:15,599 --> 02:17:18,399
similar to mine. if you were picking up

3500
02:17:18,399 --> 02:17:21,840
on that my horrible credit situation.

3501
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:23,120
But um

3502
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:26,160
>> yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I I just want to

3503
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:28,319
echo like said that I really do

3504
02:17:28,319 --> 02:17:32,160
appreciate that something you do.

3505
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:35,429
Thanks,

3506
02:17:35,439 --> 02:17:36,479
» Mr. Cobra.

3507
02:17:36,479 --> 02:17:38,960
>> Uh yeah, I also I was at the sparkle in

3508
02:17:38,960 --> 02:17:41,280
the square. It was a good event. So good

3509
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:43,920
job to staff on that. Fireworks were

3510
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:46,960
>> excellent this year. They work great and

3511
02:17:46,960 --> 02:17:50,240
yeah um

3512
02:17:50,240 --> 02:17:52,000
urge everyone to continue to use engage

3513
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:55,280
LP. I think it um maybe prior to the

3514
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:56,559
storm. I haven't looked at it this week

3515
02:17:56,559 --> 02:17:57,840
but you can go on there and even look

3516
02:17:57,840 --> 02:17:58,880
and see what other people have

3517
02:17:58,880 --> 02:18:00,639
committed. So you can see what the

3518
02:18:00,639 --> 02:18:02,719
resolution was and different things and

3519
02:18:02,719 --> 02:18:04,399
>> so it's it's it's good just to get kind

3520
02:18:04,399 --> 02:18:06,240
of an idea too of what other people are

3521
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,719
observing in the city but also

3522
02:18:08,719 --> 02:18:10,080
>> we can submit things.

3523
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:12,080
>> Can you guys see the map from your end?

3524
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:14,399
>> Y so you can see all through the city.

3525
02:18:14,399 --> 02:18:14,960
Okay.

3526
02:18:14,960 --> 02:18:16,479
>> Yeah, you can you can filter it by ones

3527
02:18:16,479 --> 02:18:17,840
that have already been closed. You go

3528
02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:19,519
back and look at it. So, it's it's

3529
02:18:19,519 --> 02:18:21,200
pretty neat. Um,

3530
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:22,479
>> no, it's it's an app.

3531
02:18:22,479 --> 02:18:24,080
>> Yeah, if you go to the app store, engage

3532
02:18:24,080 --> 02:18:25,120
LP there.

3533
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:27,200
>> Yeah. And I think usage from what I saw

3534
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:28,639
kind of went dwindled down after it

3535
02:18:28,639 --> 02:18:29,679
first launched. It kind of went down,

3536
02:18:29,679 --> 02:18:30,880
but it sounds like it picked back up

3537
02:18:30,880 --> 02:18:31,840
with the storm.

3538
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,639
>> We're having to um remind people and we

3539
02:18:34,639 --> 02:18:35,920
still are getting some calls and some

3540
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:38,080
walk-ins, but uh we're happy to take

3541
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:39,760
them just with the runner. forget, you

3542
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,559
know, and the the blast that we put out

3543
02:18:42,559 --> 02:18:44,880
on our social media after the storm just

3544
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:46,639
for doing the clay fix and the waste

3545
02:18:46,639 --> 02:18:48,160
management. Oh, that was huge because

3546
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:49,280
that was like our number one thing.

3547
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:50,639
Everyone wanted to report it to us.

3548
02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:51,679
You're like, "Well, you can do it

3549
02:18:51,679 --> 02:18:52,160
yourself."

3550
02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:55,280
>> Yeah. Yeah. And here's

3551
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:58,479
>> nothing else to report. Right on.

3552
02:18:58,479 --> 02:19:00,639
>> Um I would just I mean I was so

3553
02:19:00,639 --> 02:19:03,599
impressed at how quickly you guys were

3554
02:19:03,599 --> 02:19:06,639
on things after that horrible storm. So

3555
02:19:06,639 --> 02:19:09,920
much much appreciated there. And I sort

3556
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:12,399
of feel like we've bumped everything up

3557
02:19:12,399 --> 02:19:18,960
a level. Like I don't know. It's just I I'm very impressed.

3558
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:21,040
>> The guys are trying hard. They're really

3559
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:22,240
excited about all the changes we're

3560
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:22,639
making.

3561
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:24,719
>> But lots of places like we have Yosha

3562
02:19:24,719 --> 02:19:29,120
now and we have um Chris, right? You

3563
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:32,479
know, we're going in big steps in major

3564
02:19:32,479 --> 02:19:33,120
improvements.

3565
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:34,559
>> You guys will get to meet Ed hopefully

3566
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:36,160
next week. Our streets. Yeah.

3567
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:38,080
>> Yeah. I mean, just Yeah. And with the

3568
02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:40,800
hilltop happening, it's like look out.

3569
02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:44,479
>> Our little city's growing.

3570
02:19:44,479 --> 02:19:46,960
>> So, just a big compliment to the city

3571
02:19:46,960 --> 02:19:48,960
and all the planning that went into the

3572
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:51,680
library. I got to go over for the um

3573
02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:54,160
opening ceremony and it was a blast.

3574
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:56,080
There were cookies in the shape of

3575
02:19:56,080 --> 02:19:58,720
things that would be you fitting for a

3576
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:00,880
library. So, if you think of like, oh,

3577
02:20:00,880 --> 02:20:02,319
would it be a book? Yeah, there was a

3578
02:20:02,319 --> 02:20:04,080
book cookie. There was a bookworm

3579
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:05,840
cookie, I think, too.

3580
02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:08,640
>> Yeah, it was super deep. Yeah. Yeah.

3581
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:10,399
There's all kinds of neat stuff there.

3582
02:20:10,399 --> 02:20:13,439
And um the school next to it, I got to

3583
02:20:13,439 --> 02:20:15,680
tour that, too. I got a kiddo who's

3584
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:17,760
going there. And it's just such a cool

3585
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:20,640
hilltop. And I keep saying, you know, we

3586
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,640
should definitely set up a tour up there

3587
02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:25,760
for us to kind of check out the um but

3588
02:20:25,760 --> 02:20:27,200
maybe we'll just wait till it's closer

3589
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:28,319
to being done. That

3590
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:30,240
>> there's a lot of dump trucks traffic the

3591
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:31,680
last time you guys made the request. I

3592
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:33,359
had a hard time getting there. Um I did

3593
02:20:33,359 --> 02:20:34,960
have that actually as a request for last

3594
02:20:34,960 --> 02:20:38,160
time. If you guys like I can still

3595
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:41,439
who would I communicate with to set that

3596
02:20:41,439 --> 02:20:41,840
up

3597
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:42,720
>> through Randy?

3598
02:20:42,720 --> 02:20:43,920
>> Okay.

3599
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:46,720
>> Um I will get with Randy to contact with

3600
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:48,160
you guys and I will be happy to take you

3601
02:20:48,160 --> 02:20:49,439
guys on a tour because it's very much

3602
02:20:49,439 --> 02:20:51,760
open now. The large pile of dirt is gone

3603
02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:53,680
and even my perspective going up there

3604
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:55,439
has changed because you know I would go

3605
02:20:55,439 --> 02:20:56,640
up there and turn around there's this

3606
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:58,160
big pile of dirt. I'm like okay we're up

3607
02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:58,880
here.

3608
02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:00,640
>> Yeah. Well, now you can actually see the

3609
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,720
view and it's impressive and I didn't

3610
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:04,399
get to experience the view the first

3611
02:21:04,399 --> 02:21:06,560
couple of months. So, um I'd be happy to

3612
02:21:06,560 --> 02:21:07,920
take you guys up there to see that.

3613
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,560
>> Right on. And you know, we could just

3614
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:12,800
figure out what our availability is. And

3615
02:21:12,800 --> 02:21:14,800
if we can do it, we can do it. If not,

3616
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:16,720
if it's only like half of the

3617
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:18,720
commission, that'd be great, too. And

3618
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:20,319
it's much appreciated.

3619
02:21:20,319 --> 02:21:21,920
>> And I'll try to give you guys like a

3620
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:23,280
couple of days with a couple of time

3621
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:25,120
options just that way if it all doesn't

3622
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:26,880
fit, you guys can kind of dictate when's

3623
02:21:26,880 --> 02:21:28,720
the better window for you. That works

3624
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:31,120
out great and all is appreciated, man. I

3625
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:33,920
know this is not um it's it's got to be

3626
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:36,080
a pretty crazy job when all these storms

3627
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:39,200
come in, you know, and looks beautiful.

3628
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:40,800
Everything's looking great.

3629
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:43,439
>> Awesome. Thank you. No, it uh makes the

3630
02:21:43,439 --> 02:21:46,160
days go by short, so long day, but it's

3631
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:48,080
a fast day, so get it over with.

3632
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:52,640
>> Finally. All right, guys.

3633
02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:56,680
That only leaves one thing.