1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:09,280 It is uh 7 o'clock. I will call the uh special work session of the city council 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:14,320 meeting of March 2nd, 2026 to order. Uh we do have a quorum uh public forum. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:18,240 Individuals may address the city council about items on the agenda or not 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:22,080 included on the agenda. Speakers are required to state their name and address 5 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:25,920 for the council record and limit their remarks to three minutes or fewer. 6 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:30,000 Speakers are requested to frame their comments around items that fall within 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,360 the authority of the city council. Generally, the city council will not 8 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:37,920 take official action on the items discussed at this time, but may place 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:42,800 the item on file, take the matter under advisement, refer the matter to staff or 10 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:47,360 a committee for a future report, or direct the matter to be placed on an 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:51,399 upcoming agenda. Does anyone wish to speak? 12 00:00:52,079 --> 00:01:00,160 Does anyone wish to speak? Does anyone wish to speak? 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Hearing none, we'll move on to bill discussion. Any discussion on the bills? 14 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:12,050 Hearing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda items. Any discussion on 15 00:01:09,119 --> 00:01:15,840 the consent agenda? [snorts] 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Hearing none, we'll move on to council information only items. Um, first up we 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:27,200 have the Morrison County Historical Society Riverbank Reconstruction Project 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:32,320 Update. Mike Worch Worchester 19 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:37,280 and Camila Warzeka. Welcome. >> Good. Good evening. Thank you for having 20 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:43,040 us. And we're here to update. It's been a long session. I had to go back through 21 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:48,320 my my notes to kind of refresh my memory about when we started and it was in 22 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:54,479 2023. And so it's been a while and thanks to the city council as well as 23 00:01:51,280 --> 00:02:01,280 the county commissioners uh we were able to get an LCCMR grant with help of 24 00:01:58,399 --> 00:02:07,920 Shannon Wetstein at soil and water uh without a plan which you helped provide 25 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:12,400 us to get an engineer to give to build uh build a plan so that we could go and 26 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:20,959 get the grant. We also at that same time, Representative Krisha uh was able 27 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:26,879 to uh get an appropriation for 700,000 at that at that that same year in 2023. 28 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:31,599 And uh Mike is going to talk a little bit about what's been happening and uh 29 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:37,519 we've also had a little bit of a few delays, but 30 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:42,560 thank you. >> Hello. Uh I'm Mike Worcester. It's like 31 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,200 the city in Morster. I was I was debating which way should I go with that 32 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,040 one. >> Your first instinct was correct. So 33 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:54,879 you're fine. You're fine. I trust me I'm used to that. Um I will not go into too 34 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,800 much of the arcane detail of what we dealt with but as Camille said we have 35 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:03,120 been working on this process. I've been at the museum, it'll be four years in 36 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:08,319 May and go back close to another seven or eight years beyond that that this has 37 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:13,519 been an issue out there at our building and it's been a lot of people involved, 38 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:18,879 a lot of planning, a lot of plans, a lot of meetings, a lot of back and forth. 39 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:25,760 And uh she talked about delays. Yes, we had experienced um unfortunate delays 40 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:30,239 throughout this process that put us off almost two years past where we had 41 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:34,879 originally hoped to do this work after we started receiving the funding. Um and 42 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:38,560 I'm I'm not trying to be too terribly critical because there's a good side to 43 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:43,680 this too and that some of the delays came at the behest of the Army Corps of 44 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:48,640 Engineers. They wanted us to continue to do archaeological surveying on our 45 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:53,519 property. Now, we always knew our property had some pretty some 46 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:57,920 significance archaeologically, but in working with them and the Max Band of of 47 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:02,480 Ojiway Tribal Historic Preservation Office, we found out just how much 48 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:06,879 significance we had. And I will tell you one moment this summer, it was pretty 49 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,560 cool to hold in my hand what was estimated to be a 2,000-year-old fully 50 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,319 formed Arrow Point. >> Wow. 51 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:19,440 » Yeah, I said that, too. And then some. It was pretty amazing. So working with 52 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:23,360 them was fantastic. And so there was one good point out of some of these delays 53 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:28,080 is that we really got a good sense of what what was under our ground and 54 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:31,520 during the entire process too. And you'll when we go through some of the 55 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:36,320 photos, we had representatives from the tribe there the whole time um working 56 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:40,320 with us as we dug because as one of them put that he said our history is under 57 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:45,280 that ground and it's just as important as what you have above the ground and we 58 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:50,479 didn't argue that. [snorts] So, at one point, even in July of this past summer, 59 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:55,680 we really didn't have a clue when we were going to start. And we knew we had 60 00:04:52,880 --> 00:05:00,639 a limited window. We knew we we knew the vendor, the u the excavators needed a 61 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:04,880 certain amount of time to get this work done based on weather, based on 62 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:10,080 conditions, based on all of it. We were sitting in September still not 100% 63 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,840 certain when we were going to start. And we were starting to get nervous, very, 64 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:19,280 trust me on that. And then all of a sudden within days it fell together and 65 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:23,039 we were told October 15th that's the day. That was a Wednesday which was 66 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:27,919 strange but that's what they did. And then on top of that we had the other 67 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,199 part of this which was the building work which was part of the legislative 68 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,320 appropriation and the biggest item that was going to be done was the roof and 69 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:38,400 our roofer said hey we're ready to start. I said good when? October 15th. 70 00:05:36,673 --> 00:05:42,479 [laughter] You noticed in the photos that you kind 71 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:47,120 of scrolled through how that played out. So, it just literally came together in a 72 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:52,400 hurry and so we had to scramble to get everything going and we did and they 73 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:55,280 moved and they moved hard and I will also tell you if you've been out on our 74 00:05:53,919 --> 00:06:00,320 property and you know how the beautiful trees that we had out there. It was 75 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,080 really hard to see them go. It was very very difficult to see like our big white 76 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:09,360 pine go and all of that. But we knew it had to be done. Um we kind of like our 77 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:13,280 view now to be honest. We really do. But we miss the trees. We we truly do. But 78 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,039 it, like I said, it had to be done. And going through and watching them excavate 79 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,680 was pretty amazing. Um, these guys have done this before. The it's an um company 80 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,240 called Sunramm Excavating out of Excelsier. And they do a lot of work 81 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:30,319 with other soil and water conserv conservation districts. And so they came 82 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:35,280 highly recommended. So they they absolutely knew what they were doing and 83 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:39,280 they went at it and they dug and they scraped and they dug and they found out 84 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:43,520 just how hard that ground was underneath us. They had to bring in special 85 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:47,600 equipment just to dig to get at some of the hillside. And there was a few of the 86 00:06:45,039 --> 00:06:52,639 photos that um I I won't tell you how many photos I took um with my camera and 87 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:57,039 with my phone and um some of the drone photos that Soil and Water was kind 88 00:06:54,639 --> 00:07:02,160 enough to give to us. Um it was pretty amazing to watch. And at one point and 89 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:05,360 in one of the photos um I did say I was standing below the water level. I'm not 90 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:09,919 kidding. I was standing below the water level because we were down 30 feet from 91 00:07:07,599 --> 00:07:14,720 ground level where the museum was all the way down and then they started 92 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:19,280 building back up and then six inches at a time they built back up and that's 93 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:23,680 what they had to do and they just kept layering it and layering it all the 94 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,840 while mind you we had representatives from the tribe and hired archaeologists 95 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:32,880 sift checking everything and making sure we weren't missing anything. Um and I 96 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,720 mean I'm a highway engineers kid. I've been on my share of road construction 97 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:42,160 projects and culvert replacement projects and um all sorts of of building 98 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:45,840 projects, but this was pretty amazing and it was a lot of fun to watch. And 99 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,120 well, it wasn't fun when the vibrating excavator would kick in, but that's 100 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,520 that's another matter. So, we'll just deal with that. And then again, all the 101 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:59,199 time they were working on the roof, too. And within 10 days, they had that brand 102 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:04,319 new roof done. And then that aspect is done. and and Camille noted we had kind 103 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:08,319 of separate pots of of money working on this which meant we're we were we were 104 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,919 juggling a lot of different work. We were juggling the hillside work and 105 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:17,520 we're juggling the building work at the same time. And um I've probably got 106 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,639 about four spreadsheets on my laptop at work that tries to keep track of all 107 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:24,960 this because the funding comes from different sources and has to go out to 108 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:30,879 different go out different ways. And so that's been an interesting exercise too. 109 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:37,279 All told, here's where we're at. We're probably at about 80 to 85% done, 110 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:40,399 which isn't bad when you think about it. Now, if you go out there right now, what 111 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:45,839 you're going to see is a a series of giant tarp pieces covering the hillside. 112 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:54,480 And those were intended to keep erosion down come spring. And Sunramm wants to 113 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:58,160 start April 2nd. I think they're being a little ambitious on that, but we'll 114 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:02,720 see. And and if we are able to do that in one in one month's time, we'll have 115 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:06,480 it done. And by done, what we mean is all the rest of the excavating because 116 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,560 there's still more excavating and rebuilding to do. And then the 117 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:14,720 installation of the vegetation, which has to be done on top of that, the 118 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:18,399 fencing, and then the reinstallation of the burm, and then last but not least, 119 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:25,279 we'll get a new parking lot out of all of this. So when that's done, so again, 120 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:29,200 fingers crossed, 30, 45 days, we'll have it all done. 121 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,080 you know, but like we found out last fall, 122 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,279 we weren't always quite sure when we were even going to start. So, we'll 123 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:40,640 we'll, you know, and I mean, obviously that depends on road restrictions and 124 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:44,720 that depends on um I think all of us know what it can be like at the end of 125 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:49,200 April sometimes when you get suddenly 8 10 inches of snow and I guess we're 126 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:55,920 going to wait and that's okay, too. But our goal again is to have that work done 127 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:59,839 um end of May, early June, and then after that, we'll commence again with 128 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:03,200 getting the rest of the building work done. But in terms of Yeah, if you're 129 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,560 scrolling through and you're looking at those photos, um you can definitely see 130 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,720 they were right down at the waterline and uh it was it was really interesting 131 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,680 again just to watch that. We'd have people come out and just kind of stand 132 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,279 there and look. We'd let them do it and that was fine. and uh our they as long 133 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:23,200 as they didn't get in the way of the excavators, we were good. But yeah, in 134 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:27,600 that particular bottom photo there, what you see is again how they basically had 135 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:31,600 to layer it all the way up. And we're act we're going to get more um hillside 136 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:36,560 than we originally had, which is interesting, too. And it's going to be a 137 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:42,160 bit of a better slope and all of that. Um it's been a fascinating process to 138 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:46,480 walk watch just in my you know four to five years that I've been around plus 139 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Camille going back what a decade now at least a decade more than a decade um of 140 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:55,760 trying of start to finish on this but um I don't want to say the finish line is 141 00:10:53,519 --> 00:11:00,399 in sight but I'm beginning to wonder if it will come into focus here at some 142 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:05,920 point especially once we can actually start getting mobilized again to get 143 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:09,839 started on the rest of the work. So, that's kind of where we're at. Um, I 144 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,880 didn't want to belabor it too long, but any questions from anybody on any of the 145 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,200 work? >> No. Those excavation pictures are 146 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,160 unbelievable when you look at what they're doing there. It's like, 147 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,160 » yeah, there was a couple of them that I took after they left and I just kind of 148 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:28,399 walked the path down to below the water level and then I turned and looked back 149 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:33,279 up and I went, "Yeah, I'm I'm down here quite a ways." And it it was a bit 150 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:38,320 walking back up too, you know, and and what you really don't get a sense of is 151 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:42,079 how almost how steep that drop is until you're standing down at the bottom of 152 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:47,519 there at water level looking back up and realizing how really far down you are. 153 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Um, and one of the issues they ran into, again, I mentioned the the the toughness 154 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:56,000 of that work, they had to bring in, it looked like a giant basically picker 155 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,640 because that ground was so hard. I mean, we knew that when we did the soil 156 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:02,000 samples, but we really didn't realize how hard it was until their bucket just 157 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,920 couldn't even move half move that and they had to bring that piece had special 158 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:11,279 bring that piece in special to get at that and just work on that. 159 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:15,600 » Do you find any more artifacts? >> Yes. Yes, we did. Um, a lot of it the 160 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:18,720 same stuff. A lot of they call them points and shards is what they call 161 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:23,519 them. And eventually those will all work their way back to us. But right now 162 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,880 they're in possession of the max band because then they evaluate I think was 163 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:31,839 what they have to do is evaluate if there's any any potentially sacred 164 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,600 orerary objects because then they are allowed to keep those and then we get 165 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,240 back what they don't keep. But we'll work that process through and that's 166 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,320 going to take a little while also because we've been working with them for 167 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,920 close to three years now too on the surveying and then they want to come 168 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:49,839 back and do more because of how much they are finding on our property and how 169 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:53,680 much they believe is there and it ties also up to the Lindberg property too 170 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:59,279 because they've done a lot of work up there and what I finally asked them was 171 00:12:55,839 --> 00:13:05,360 well what's the difference and they said how they worked it laid it out to me was 172 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:08,079 whoever would there and This isn't just something that happened 173 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,000 for a few years. They talk multigenerational is what we're so we're 174 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:16,800 talking hundreds of years, not just a couple of decades that people were on 175 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:20,639 this site. They lived basically when they were there on the by 176 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:24,959 the limber property but did their work down by us. So that they find on the 177 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:31,519 limber property they find pieces that indicate living elements but with us 178 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:35,720 they find working elements >> which is really interesting too. 179 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:43,040 You are welcome to check out our website and social media. We have some really 180 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:46,399 cool time lapse videos of the work they did too. That was a lot of fun to watch. 181 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,560 Otherwise, you're welcome to come out anytime. Give us a call. You're welcome 182 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,440 to come and see it. We are we are more than happy to show people around and 183 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,600 show them what we've been doing cuz it's been we want it to be as open as 184 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,800 possible for people because it's been we've had so much support from the 185 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:04,639 community on this, from the city, from the county, from the state of Minnesota, 186 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:08,079 from private individuals. We've had townships give us money. We've had 187 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:13,519 family members of the wirehousers give us money. It's been it's been a really 188 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:18,800 great effort. Um stressful at times, yes, but it's been a fantastic effort. 189 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:21,519 So, we're very happy for that. Thank you for all your work. 190 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:28,959 » Thank you. >> I just wanted to mention uh while it it 191 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:33,920 it's more expensive what we did it it's going to last longer. We didn't want a 192 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:40,639 retaining wall. We didn't want it which will decline over the years. This will 193 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:46,560 the way the the mic was describing the building up every six inches there was 194 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:51,040 MSE fabric that's laid between. So, it's building up that whole area stronger. 195 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:56,800 And with the vegetation, it'll just get stronger. It won't deteriorate like 196 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:02,079 anything that we commercially might put in there as far as building a wall. So, 197 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:06,720 we're pretty excited. It's a little costly, but it in the long run, it's not 198 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:10,240 going to require maintenance that we might have had that we can't afford. 199 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:11,519 [laughter] Thank you. 200 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:14,760 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 201 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:24,240 Okay. Um, moving on under other, I'm going to stick something in there from 202 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:30,160 me. Um, the, uh, meet and greet that we had, uh, last week here, uh, the first 203 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:34,959 time we tried that. Um, and in my opinion, it was, uh, a great success. 204 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:39,279 Um, I didn't anticipate as many people 205 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:43,279 showing up as did. I was very pleased that we uh, we had that many people 206 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:47,360 there. Um, and I'm sure that we're going to be uh doing that again. Um, but what 207 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,519 I would I would like to ask each of the council members, if you would please. 208 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:58,079 Um, since not everybody talked with everybody, um, 209 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:02,079 if you could make a list of the items that you discussed with the people from 210 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:07,759 the community um, that were brought up to your attention, if you could make up 211 00:16:03,839 --> 00:16:12,959 a list and then send that to uh, Alex um, she will compile that list so that 212 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:17,440 when we get to our strategic meeting uh, in the end of March here that we can go 213 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:22,560 through that list um, and look at those things that um, the community had 214 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:27,519 concerns about and so then we can possibly use that list to address some 215 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:35,120 of those concerns. So if you can do that within well the next week 216 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:39,600 » week to two weeks um send that into her um that would be great. Just pinpoint 217 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:44,000 you know fire hydrants you know or manhole covers you know um those kinds 218 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,759 of things. Okay, those are two that I have. 219 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,800 » Um, can I bring up some of the stuff under constituent messages or do you not 220 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,680 want to do that? >> Well, as soon as I get there. Yeah. 221 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,800 » Oh, no. I did. Well, you were saying you want that list. I didn't know if you 222 00:16:54,959 --> 00:17:00,079 wanted me to bring up anything or not. >> No, just that just if you just want to 223 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:05,520 send that I I don't think we want to discuss those items that were discussed 224 00:17:02,079 --> 00:17:09,360 here during that night. Um, but I think if we just take those and compile them 225 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:13,679 in a complete list and then we can look at that and sta save some of our time in 226 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:17,120 our strategic planning to go through and discuss some of those when when 227 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:21,439 everybody's there. Um, because yeah, we could go on for an hour just talking 228 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,400 about everything that we heard. So, I think just doing it that way would be 229 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:27,439 the the best way to do. >> Um, and then I think Alex, you had 230 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,919 something that you wanted to bring up also. While we're talking about 231 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:35,280 strategic planning, um I just wanted to since I have most of you gathered here 232 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,960 right now, uh if you remember our structure that we used last year for the 233 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:44,160 strategic planning, little bit of homework on uh priorities for that each 234 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:49,840 individual council member has for the next year, three years, five years, 10 235 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:54,160 years, talked through all of that. Um is that a format he would like to use again 236 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:59,280 this year? If so, I can assign you homework again. 237 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:02,720 Frank is nodding. He likes homework. >> No. 238 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:07,200 » Former teacher is way back. >> Yeah. [clears throat] Homework. No. 239 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:09,919 » I like the way it was run the last time. >> All right. I'm just honing in the 240 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,919 details on it. I want to make sure that I'm I'm covering grounds. Do we want to 241 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,840 again approach that in our our multi-year or do we want to have a 242 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:21,840 little bit more of the directional theoretical discussions? 243 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,679 » A little bit of both. >> Both. I can balance both. 244 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,039 » Yeah. >> It's a little bit of both. combination 245 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,320 of both of them I think would be beneficial. 246 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,640 » Perfect. >> Yeah, I'd definitely like to sorry 247 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,880 definitely like to have directional theoretical discussions as far as what 248 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:38,559 our >> That's good. All-encompassing view of 249 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:43,360 Little Paul should be >> all right. I can do all of those things. 250 00:18:41,919 --> 00:18:47,520 » Cool. >> That's all. Thank you. 251 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:51,840 » Great. So, we'll move on to constituent messages other than those discussed at 252 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:55,679 our meet and greet. Uh, well, I do have a couple that were also discussed at the 253 00:18:54,080 --> 00:19:02,960 meet and greet, but I got phone calls on. And one of them was, and I talked to 254 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:09,120 a police chief about this, was the cameras 255 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:14,559 that they're setting up. Uh, they were worried we're playing 1984. 256 00:19:12,158 --> 00:19:20,960 [clears throat] And I said, "No." And I told him what Kyle told me that uh, Mr. 257 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Ruby is going through that. and collecting the information and you know 258 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:34,960 we're not going to use it for this other than things like um what missing kids 259 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:39,840 and stuff like that and uh the other thing is I heard from one person who was 260 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:45,919 very technical about it and he cited to me what California is using flock also 261 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:50,080 and he said they were pretty loose with their information just so that's what he 262 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:56,720 told me because they're trying to get out of their lease and they can't in 263 00:19:52,559 --> 00:20:02,559 California. And um but that's I told him I talked to well I talked to Kyle about 264 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:09,440 it and I discussed that with them. Um and the other thing that I got a phone 265 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:14,640 call on was again the ATV just so you know that was brought up again. I got a 266 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:19,200 couple phone calls on the side by sides and that thing and I talked to Alex 267 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:22,160 about that today a little bit. So, but that's what I got. 268 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:26,720 » Okay. I think just to remind the community with the flock thing that that 269 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:31,120 is just a uh a trial program, right, >> that they're going to initiate in April 270 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:36,640 and just to um set it up and take a look at it. Uh the city has not decided to go 271 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:41,440 for it or or invest in it or whatever. It's just a trial period to see what 272 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:44,799 kind of information we get, how it is valuable to the police department. So, 273 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,320 just >> we haven't put it into place yet. It's 274 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,600 just a trial. >> Any other constituent messages? 275 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:55,360 » I'm sorry. I got one more. >> No. So, I know it's been I had a busy 276 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,480 week on the phone. >> Go ahead. 277 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:05,520 » Uh, a gentleman who lives across the street from this hockey rinkham forestry 278 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:09,760 up here. He told me, he says, "Dave, you are wasting your money. Nobody goes 279 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,320 there." Just so you know. And I talked to Greg about that also. 280 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:19,600 » Yeah, we've been we've been discussing that quite a bit. Any others? 281 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:24,840 If not, I will adjourn the meeting at 7:21 to our regular meeting at 7:30. 282 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,840 » How you doing, David? 283 00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:36,559 Antibiotics.