1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:14,440 Father for it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 2 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:14,440 justice for all. 3 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:24,160 » Valerie, would you please read the public statement of public notice? 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:29,119 » The Little Falls Township Planning Board meeting of Thursday, September 3rd, 2026 5 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:33,920 is called to order. Please take notice that adequate notice of this meeting was 6 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:40,399 provided in accordance with NJSA10 col4-8 and NJSA10 col4-10 as follows. 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Notice of the meeting was promptly posted on the bulletin board at the 8 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:50,320 municipal building located at 225 Main Street, Little Falls, New Jersey on 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:54,160 January 8th, 2026. Copy of the notice was sent via email to the North Jersey 10 00:00:52,239 --> 00:00:57,360 Heralded News on same date. Additionally, a copy of the notice was 11 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,800 filed in the office of the township clerk. Please note that this meeting is 12 00:00:59,199 --> 00:01:04,400 being taped. Therefore, we ask that you speak loud and clear into the 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,600 microphones. >> Thank you. Please call the role. 14 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,560 » Mr. Barry >> here. 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,560 » Par. 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,360 » Mr. Luke Damiano >> here. 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,600 » Miss Kato here. >> Mr. Sber. 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,880 » Mr. Posious here. >> Mayor Damiano here. 19 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:27,840 Councilman Scoba >> here. 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,680 » Dr. Abdi, Mr. Dolan >> here, 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,159 » Mr. Rema >> here, 22 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:34,000 » Mr. Jordan, Mr. Priodoro 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,600 » here, >> Mr. Cobblars 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880 » here, >> Mr. Barry 25 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:40,799 » here, >> Mr. Chairman Kilpatrick 26 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:46,320 » here. Thank you. Uh, council president Kova, 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,920 you have any comments for the board? >> Chairman, at our last council meeting, 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:53,840 no concerned resident came before the governing body with any concerns of this 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:59,280 planning board. Thank you very much. May I have a motion for the approval of the 30 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:03,680 minutes of May the amended minutes for May 7, 2006? 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,680 » So moved. >> Second. 32 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:10,160 » Second. >> All the um please call the board. 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,640 » Mr. Barry, >> yes. 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,120 » Mr. Posius, >> yes. 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,640 » Mr. Dolan. >> Yes. 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:22,080 » Mr. Jordan and Chairman Kilpatrick. 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:29,280 » Chair. Yes. Um, may I have a motion for the 38 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:33,280 approval of the minutes of the August 6, 2026 meeting? 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,640 » So moved. >> Second. 40 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:38,000 » Mer. >> Mr. Barry. 41 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:39,440 » Yes. >> Mr. Kar. 42 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:41,120 » Yes. >> Mr. Luke Demiano. 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,720 » Yes. >> Miss Gataldo. 44 00:02:42,239 --> 00:02:44,160 » Yes. >> Mr. Posious. 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,840 » Yes. >> Mayor Damiano. 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,680 » Yes. >> Council Miss Bilba. 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,440 » Yes. >> Mr. Dolan. 48 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:53,920 » Yes. >> Chairman Kilpatrick. Chairman votes yes. 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Uh let's see. Memorializing resolutions. We 50 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:08,239 have four resolutions. First one is Devco Route 46 Associates 1710 US Route 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:14,000 46 West. May I have a motion? >> I'll make the motion. 52 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:17,760 » I have a second. >> Second. 53 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:19,120 » Please pull the board. >> Mr. Barry. 54 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,000 » Yes. >> Mr. Kar. Yes, 55 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:23,440 » Mr. Luke Demiano. >> Yes, 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 » Miss Catalo. >> Yes, 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,239 » Mr. Posches. >> Yes, 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,760 » Mayor Demiano. >> Yes, 59 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:30,080 » Councilman Scila. >> Yes, 60 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:38,720 » Chairman Kilpatrick. >> Chairman O. Yes. Um, next resolution is 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:44,080 Raffiel and Sebastian Cruz, 24 Woodside Avenue. This was a denial. 62 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:46,640 May I have a motion? >> I'll make the motion. 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,480 » Second. >> Second. 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,840 » East Polar Board. Mr. Barry, >> yes. 65 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:53,519 » Mr. Kar, >> yes. 66 00:03:52,239 --> 00:03:54,879 » Mr. Luiano, >> yes. 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,319 » Matildo, >> yes. 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,480 » Mr. Posus, >> yes. 69 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:06,640 » Chairman Kilpatrick, >> chairman vot. Yes. Um, next application 70 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:11,439 is 3 356 Art Gang LLC, 175 Patterson Avenue. 71 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:16,239 » I'll make the motion. >> Second. 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,519 » Please pull the board. >> Mr. Barry, 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,160 » yes. >> Mr. Kash, 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,040 » yes. Mr. Luke Deiano, >> yes. 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,880 » Miss Gatalgo, yes. Mr. Posius, >> yes. 76 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:32,800 » Chairman Katrick, >> chair, yes. Uh, last resolution for 77 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:37,199 memorializing is Viva for your life LLC, 200 East Main Street. May I have a 78 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,720 motion? >> Make a second. Second. 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,000 » Please pull the board. >> Mr. Barry? 80 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,360 » Yes. >> Mr. Car? 81 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,919 » Yes. >> Mr. Luke Deiano? 82 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,880 Miss Gataldo, >> yes. 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:58,880 » Mr. Pochius, yes. Chairman >> Kilpatrick. Chairman, yes. The 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:06,440 resolutions are memorialized. Um, the only application we have tonight 85 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:06,440 is William D. Saf D Safano. 86 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:10,120 You're up. Counselor. 87 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Oh, you got Michael Jordan. Yeah, I think so. 88 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:23,000 You can pull sher up there. Okay. 89 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:43,440 » Good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the planning board. Council is 90 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:48,479 Anthony Theorello. my officer at 16 further street total burrow and I'm here 91 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:53,360 on behalf of William Dphano. Mr. Dphano who is standing to my left uh is the 92 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:59,280 contract purchaser of a parcel of property uh here in Little Falls uh 93 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:04,800 known as one Merit Avenue. It's uh further known as block 40 lots one and 94 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:10,000 two and block 63 lots 10 and 12. The premises are presently occupied by a 95 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:16,479 manufacturing company called Alvin Brush Company. uh they receive uh shipments uh 96 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:22,400 large trucks. They manufacture, they ship out uh various types and quantities 97 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:27,360 of brushes. Mr. Dphano has been in business uh and 98 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:32,080 has operated in Little Falls as well as the Toronto community by providing types 99 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:38,880 of amusements uh in connection with fairs, uh municipal events, weddings, uh 100 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:43,120 church events and the like. uh he proposes to purchase the property which 101 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:49,120 consists of 5.7 acres. It's a large practical plant uh which is uh 102 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:54,720 designated as wooded uh I've been to the property about four times and it's more 103 00:06:50,720 --> 00:07:00,240 like forested. There are big uh aged trees that grow in there. Uh there's a 104 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:05,919 pond, there's herds of deer and other natural resources have property. There 105 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:11,440 are going to be no changes to those buildings. I'm going to be heightened, 106 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:16,479 heightened, lengthened, uh more doors and more windows, nothing to stay the 107 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:23,440 same. Uh there's going to be no increase in impervious service. 108 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:27,919 So something to consider. Um of the 5.7 acres, there is 6 acres that are 109 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:32,160 impervious. So they're going to be no increase in purpose of service. There 110 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:37,039 are stored on the property as it presently exists uh containers and 111 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:45,759 they're stored in an area between the parking uhized parking area uh and the 112 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:48,400 wooded or forested areas I like. So Mr. going to be sat belts here that tell you 113 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,240 a little bit about his business, what he intends to do with the property, his m 114 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:57,039 his mode of operation, the number of employees, the number of cars, uh 115 00:07:54,639 --> 00:08:01,440 particularly what what sort of apparatus he has because he's seeking to not only 116 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:06,400 occupy the premise the commission, but also to have outdoor storage in the area 117 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:12,319 where outdoor storage presently exists and expand it a little bit into the uh 118 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:17,280 non-imperous uh area that exists. We also have with 119 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:22,639 us this evening Daniel Lamok of the Apache Associates. He's our engineer and 120 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:28,960 he'll he'll testify concerning uh various aspects of the plans that are 121 00:08:25,039 --> 00:08:35,440 submitted. So I'd like to call up uh Mr. Dphano have sworn 122 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:38,719 a question. >> All right, Mr. Stephano, please raise 123 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,279 your right hand. Do you swear affirm the testimony that you're about to give 124 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:44,880 before this board is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but 125 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:48,680 the truth? All right. Please spell your last name for the record. 126 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,480 » And your address, sir. 127 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:03,200 » Thank you Stephano. You're the contract 128 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:07,200 purchaser B of the premises that are here before the board this evening. Is 129 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:11,279 that correct? Uh and you presently own an operated business. 130 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,279 » And it's the name of the business, please. 131 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,720 And how long have you been engaged in this enterprise and business? 132 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:29,240 » And what is it that the business does or what do you do with the business? 133 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,279 Well, even 134 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,000 John for many many years 135 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:53,720 on my play. 136 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:04,160 I think the reason I was some of the on the property about what 137 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:14,079 it was and basically they're leaving the past. They looked at this 138 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:19,519 do one day you know anywhere safely set up for three four five hour 139 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:22,519 day outside 140 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,640 67 seven goes back 141 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 to see 142 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Sorry to client working 143 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:17,320 fulltime employees and we hire somebody partis 144 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:22,680 I just 145 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:26,680 not 146 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,200 anything 147 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:57,360 what is known mini trailers. >> You have some uh small box trucks that 148 00:11:54,240 --> 00:12:01,000 use as well. Um, is your business open to the general public? 149 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:27,760 Will you be leasing the will you be using the entire building? Will the 150 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:31,839 brush company still be have a presence or you'll be occupying and all those 151 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,160 rides can't fit inside? There's not enough room. 152 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:47,279 » Winter time. Do you cover them? >> No. If kids from the uh there's a lot of 153 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:52,040 houses going going on now and kids access them to their backyard. 154 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,519 Thank you. 155 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:29,800 » You cover them. >> Do you cover them? We follow 156 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:46,720 » if you're doing schools and things like that, what are the hours of operation? 157 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,600 No, I know. But are you moving all those things at 7 a.m.? 158 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:57,760 » Okay. 159 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:07,240 How many uh employees will be in the building at any given time? 160 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,440 » That varies in accordance with the season. Is that correct? 161 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:22,320 » I'm looking at your truck with advertising on it. It says uh you 162 00:14:19,839 --> 00:14:25,800 provide uh those type of activities for backyard parties. 163 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,920 weddings 164 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:38,680 on the truck. It indicated water slides and mechanical bull 165 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:38,680 have that. 166 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:51,760 It's not something that you see at a corner like a ferris wheel or a whip or 167 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:57,440 that type of material. Is that correct? They're stored on you said these mini uh 168 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:01,680 tractors that drove trailers. Uh you provided some 169 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:07,279 photographs that indicate the type of equipment 170 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:12,800 that's there uh that utilize as well as the drugs sector showing you these are 171 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:19,800 these photos taken some chairman. I'd like to have these as 172 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,800 sure. 173 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:34,360 So each package contains >> each package consists of four. 174 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Hey, so can you uh >> just 175 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,880 » Okay, >> we're going to mark this A1. It's going 176 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:10,560 to be a series of four photographs. Then your client, you can go from each one 177 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:15,519 » and just tell us what it is. Stephan, I'm showing you A1 178 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:20,560 photograph that you take. What does it show? 179 00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:23,800 » Sorry, could you wait till the photo? >> Thank you. 180 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:03,279 can you describe to us what we're looking at? 181 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:08,319 » Just just before you do that, um, so Mr. Dphano, did you take these photographs? 182 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:14,160 Okay. And when did you take the photographs? 183 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:18,319 And the and do these photographs fairly and accurately depict the conditions on 184 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:22,880 the photographs at the time you took them? 185 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:28,799 Okay. And where what's the site of where these photographs were taken? 186 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:32,360 » Okay. At your current site. >> Okay. Thank you. 187 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,039 Can you describe the picture? They're a little hard to make out. They're very 188 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:04,000 black and white. >> Yeah. 189 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:07,000 First picture looks probably 190 00:18:13,679 --> 00:18:20,960 up. We usually Christmas time they go in 191 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:24,679 there Christmas action Halloween 192 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:30,280 man trailer 193 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:37,720 this and it gets pulled from pickup truck and 194 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:45,679 » okay let's take a look at the exhibit A2 you tell the board what that 195 00:18:55,679 --> 00:19:00,679 It's on a trailer and 196 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,440 how do you how do you access that trailer to to move with a pickup truck 197 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:12,440 or a how long is that apparatus? 198 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:25,400 and take a look at A3. Tell the board what what that represents. 199 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:43,960 Where are those tables and chairs stored? And you intend to store them 200 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,960 with 201 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:54,520 take a look at the exhibit A3. What that is 202 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:07,360 chairs you like and that's on a mini trailer as as well like that's hooked up 203 00:20:03,919 --> 00:20:12,840 to a truck and take a look at a forward but that is 204 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,360 » and How is that transported? 205 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,679 » I'm sorry. What's the height of that rock? 206 00:20:27,679 --> 00:20:30,679 » 24. 207 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:49,360 » Now, as the site presently exists, there are shown on the plans uh certain 208 00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:54,799 containers that are on site. Is that true? And that's in an area where you 209 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,360 propose to store some of the equipment was tested by 210 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:04,520 you intend to store them any other place 211 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:14,039 are 212 00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:17,159 here 213 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,919 maybe on 214 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Are the containers leaving? 215 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,760 » We want them all. >> Yeah. Unless you can store rides in 216 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:44,679 them. >> Unless you can store rides in them. 217 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,720 Mhm. 218 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:07,840 » What kind of condition are these trailers on the slot? Are they rusty or 219 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,840 trailers? Are they rusty or >> trailers? 220 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,200 Trailers. >> No. No. I'm talking about the prayers 221 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,200 that are on the >> saint. 222 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,120 » Okay. 223 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:40,360 » We go back to A5 for a moment. >> Say it again, sir. 224 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,360 » A5. The picture. 225 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:46,200 Yeah. Okay. Is that the rock wall? 226 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,559 » This a train. >> That's a rock wall. 227 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:58,640 » Okay. Okay. So, you describe that very well. 228 00:22:56,159 --> 00:23:01,440 » Looks like fun. Is Is this however this looks like it's just classic tarp 229 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,679 draped? >> Yeah. 230 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:10,280 That's not >> Well, you mentioned shrink wrap, but 231 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,280 that's not an example. Uh that's 232 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:18,159 » okay. Any questions? >> Going back to the trailers, if if you 233 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:23,159 decide to take the trailers from the current owner, would you need all four 234 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,159 of them? 235 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:27,799 » Yeah. 236 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:40,159 » Okay. They uh from my my observation is they certainly need a paint job if 237 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,960 nothing else and they're rusting away. 238 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,919 » Thank you. >> At your current location, um you occupy 239 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:54,720 part of the building space there as well in addition to the drivers. 240 00:23:52,640 --> 00:24:00,600 the drive. So again, you have you have your here in the drive. You can also 241 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,600 see 242 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:13,039 » continue. >> I have no further questions with Mr. D. 243 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:16,480 I would like to call our engineer for test. 244 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:22,400 » I have several questions. The containers on your current site are 245 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:27,520 call them unsightly, especially in the sense that there's stuff piled all over 246 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:32,799 the tops of them that uh as the height starts to increase obviously the 247 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:35,520 visibility would also increase. Would you agree that if there's any containers 248 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,400 on the site that nothing would be stored on top of them? 249 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:43,679 And I know I've been to the Merida property 250 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,360 in the past. I think there's about five or six containers there now. Is that 251 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,360 Right. 252 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,120 So, would you agree to limit the total number of containers to three, which 253 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,919 would be a reduction of the total number of containers on the site? 254 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:13,400 » There's five there now, right? Is that my recollection? Is that correct? 255 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,400 » Land show five. 256 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,559 I was there today and I counted four. >> Four. 257 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:24,080 » I Yeah. >> Okay. I know the numbers fluctuated over 258 00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:27,440 the years. So would you agree to limit the number of containers to the current 259 00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:31,960 number that is there rather than expanding the number of containers in 260 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,960 total? 261 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:43,039 And as far as the six to seven mechanical rods, would you 262 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:46,320 agree to box them in with a a fence so that there's no real visibility of them? 263 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,000 Because the majority of them look like they're under about 6 feet tall. Would 264 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:54,039 you put a vinyl fence around them so there's no visibility to those rides? 265 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,600 I don't 266 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,919 do that again any 267 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:25,440 » Okay. Tree trees may work for that purpose. The the problem with the 268 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:31,200 fencing is that we have to pull these trailers indie trailers in and out. Um 269 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:35,039 there's no way to do that fence that that 270 00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:41,120 » what the fencing would do would be block the view from all those condos and 271 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:45,760 apartments that are behind you that are five six stories high. So we kind of 272 00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:50,039 like to block that. I know it's high. We kind of like to block that if possible. 273 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,480 Say, you know, thinking about it. 274 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:15,080 » If you just go up to the height of the trailer tops, probably be enough. 275 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:24,559 » Yeah. the would you restore the trailers on the most I guess southern part of the 276 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,919 property which is where the containers currently are. If you'd continue with 277 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:33,679 the rides so that they're not visible from the dewy side of the the project 278 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:38,080 that would hide all of those six to seven mechanical rides they have. 279 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,360 I'm just trying to figure out a way to make it less of an attractive nuisance 280 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,760 where kids are going to come and potentially see them or jump on them or 281 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,960 do anything like that from that angle. If they're behind the containers, I 282 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:52,480 don't think they'd be visible. None of them are higher than the containers 283 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,520 themselves, right? When stored. >> None of the rides are higher than the 284 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,840 containers when they're stored and broken down. 285 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:13,279 » There's proposed gates on Merit Avenue, so there' be no access there. Uh there's 286 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:19,360 my eye there's six foot fences along the property line apple property and the 287 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:23,120 residential neighbors. So no way to do that unless you know age somebody else 288 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,640 probably >> I don't think they're saying the whole 289 00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:27,679 thing >> the back 290 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:32,480 » not all not all those neighbors have secret fences. 291 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Well, the ones that are approximate to the building 292 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:43,600 uh in lot one two and three one in lot it's 11.01 They don't want to have sick. 293 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,840 » I I believe kids are notorious. They'll crawl under, they crawl through, they 294 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,880 climb over. >> Kids can 295 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,640 in a heartbeat. Uh, as far as hours of operation, would 296 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:58,919 you agree to not do any work outside of the building prior to 7 a.m.? 297 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:13,120 » I mean, work inside the building obviously not an issue, but you know, 298 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:20,520 outside neighbors cannot have to deal with noise of loading things prior to 7 299 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,520 a.m., which are noisy ordinance in town. 300 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:28,799 I think that's all we have. >> Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, if I may, 301 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:33,360 one or one or one or two quick questions. 302 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:39,520 » The um you mentioned that you get occasionally a delivery of new rides, 303 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,880 new equipment, whatever. Could you put a ballpark on the frequency of that? Is 304 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:47,320 that a seasonal thing right at the beginning of the year? 305 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,320 » Yeah. 306 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,880 things very 307 00:29:53,919 --> 00:30:01,120 » okay. >> So it's not a weekly monthly occurrence. 308 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,880 It's just rare as needed. Okay. And those vehicles that come will be 309 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:10,720 whatever the delivery company's using. It's okay. The um just getting back to 310 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,480 what the mayor and some others were talking about with kind of fencing and 311 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:20,000 we'll discuss this with with your engineer as well. I think part of what 312 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:23,760 I'm looking at as the planner on behalf of the board in the township is to 313 00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:28,399 basically define the area that you're going to use and whether that's a fence 314 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:31,840 that's giving us a boundary, whether that's edge of pavement giving us a 315 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:37,520 boundary, landscaping giving us a boundary, just defining that area so 316 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:43,120 that today it's this and then next week it's this times two doesn't become an 317 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,399 issue. So just keep that in mind and we'll have testimony from your 318 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,279 professional and kind of revisit some of the technicalities of that. 319 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,360 » We'll come back. Go ahead. >> Well, our engineer then 320 00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:06,720 » Daniel, you swear from the testimony that you're 321 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,919 about to give before this board is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and 322 00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:14,520 nothing but the truth. Please tell us your name last name. Mr. Business. 323 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,799 Can you give the board the benefit of your educational background experience? 324 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,960 your lensure still 325 00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:53,840 in this matter submitted behalf of Mr. Dano 326 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,880 the board please through the plans >> accepted 327 00:31:55,919 --> 00:32:00,000 » he's accepted >> okay 328 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,640 Mr. Or you me 329 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600 45 330 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:04,360 And then you 331 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,159 show them 332 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,080 to 333 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,279 everything. 334 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,600 Sir, in terms of the uh the area where the trailers or the outdoor storage 335 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:59,279 would be, could you estimate and provide a uh a figure as to how wide that would 336 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:03,039 be? I see some containers uh located there around but to me and to my eye 337 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,360 looks about 100 feet be wrong. >> Yeah. So 338 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:30,320 it follows the uh the tree line. He's 339 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:32,879 kind of very 340 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:38,280 sty And 341 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,280 fairly long 342 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,359 back road kind 343 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,560 The loading area presently exists. >> Yes. 344 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:26,760 » And a existing uh refuge facility is also approved. 345 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,760 » Yeah. 346 00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:48,000 that there's a 40 foot uh residential setback along the properties that are on 347 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,000 DY Avenue. Is that correct? >> Yes. 348 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,920 Are you saying you might store things on the side of the building? 349 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,359 Yes. Yes. 350 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,760 dumpster going where those containers are. 351 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,280 » Is it designated on your 352 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,960 probably >> that's a little more specific. 353 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,480 » It already exists there and that's where we intend to keep it. 354 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,400 » Okay. >> But it's movable so you know all over 355 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:22,240 but that that's the logical place to put it furthest away from 356 00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:28,839 residential properties. uh part of the building uh is already existing within 357 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,839 that 40 foot set. Is that correct? 358 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:40,680 » Is that clouded area fully hard surface or a combination? 359 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:47,960 » Is is it shown on this plan where the hard surface is and where it's not? 360 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,160 So most of the storage area will be on the grass. 361 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:07,440 » We review the engineer. Can we review the engineer report? 362 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:14,320 Can we review the engineer report? >> Sure. So Lamont, you you received a copy 363 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:17,640 of the Kalar's uh report. Have you reviewed it? 364 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,640 to review it with you and 365 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:31,640 Right. We're just going to do do the technical comments 366 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,640 starting D 367 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,280 11. There are 11 technical comments. 368 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040 Yes. 369 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:31,520 equipment that that reference in there is that's owned by a third party 370 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:38,760 landscape. So for you don't own it, then that's going to be revoked by that 371 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,760 that person. 372 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,480 Number 373 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,640 two, we've addressed by testimony from Mr. 374 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:25,520 heard testimony regarding the number of employees that would vary according to 375 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:29,119 season. I seasonality because uh those parking spaces enough to accommodate the 376 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:32,680 employees 27 onsite 377 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:43,400 A comment with respect to the condition of the parking lot itself repairs. 378 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,000 But he stays. 379 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,960 Did you mention the height I missed 380 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,319 » item number seven last week? 381 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:51,400 » Yes. Now there's a problem. I know 382 00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:02,319 appears to be a large deer population in the wooded area. 383 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:05,480 » Will that limit the type of escape view that will 384 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:25,440 » on the topic of events? The uh we have two departments that need access. 385 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:30,720 DPW there's a stream behind you the site that they clean out. So they will need 386 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:37,200 to access. Fire department will need to have access. Will you be ready to supply 387 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:40,200 them with codes, keys, whatever you use? >> Sure. 388 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:51,720 So the most item uh with respect to uh I think we were on finish seven we're on 389 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,720 eight. 390 00:42:52,960 --> 00:43:01,800 You indicated that there going to be an area for the dumpster that uh will 391 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,800 provide a throwing. 392 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:14,599 He didn't have testimony to affect the lighting, but there's no additional 393 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,599 lighting on your plan that 394 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:42,880 there's no uh new signage proposed. All that's going to happen 395 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:49,319 that often end brush company will just be rewarded to reflect the step company 396 00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:49,319 name 397 00:43:49,920 --> 00:44:00,920 is going to be diminishing just there's a lot of information we don't 398 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,920 have very well 399 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,520 » signature blond without saying that'll that'll 400 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680 » I don't have any place to sign. You don't get signed. 401 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,920 » No, >> we're going to make going to make some. 402 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,839 » Okay. Mr. Kobalar, do you have any comments? 403 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:23,760 » A couple questions of regards to the Belster location. I did see a couple 404 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:30,079 within the site itself. One location 405 00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:41,800 you describe here. >> Yeah. that um a refuge truck pick up 406 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,800 building only to that point 407 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,880 between the building and res 408 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,560 that back. 409 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000 want to point out that 410 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:29,760 » I would assume it's a a municipal roadway and that the 411 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:34,240 municipality would like >> the municipality is not coming down as 412 00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:37,720 far a driveway spread a roadway. 413 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,720 » Yeah, they would have to uh 414 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:51,599 » we got the equip. >> Who? 415 00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:54,880 » You got we got to swear you in. >> All right. Well, he's already sworn in, 416 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,079 but we need to have you identified on the record. We just hear a voice in the 417 00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:01,839 audience. >> All right, Mr. Dphano. Now you can put 418 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,880 on the record what you were saying from the seats. 419 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:10,680 » What the request is that the allow the entire roadway 420 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:19,480 was having public work. 421 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,599 My understanding the role itself is own 422 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:40,040 I was focused on Dewey. That's why I said 423 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,040 right 424 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,680 and he'll take care of them. 425 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,839 » Anything else? 426 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,960 » Any questions of the board? engineer. >> Mr. Chairman, I not for the engineer, 427 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:01,359 but I have a question. Mr. Stephano, if a organization, a church was to hire 428 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,760 your company and they wanted most of your the activities you would supply the 429 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,480 games, how many vehicles would be pulling out of the establishment? 430 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:21,119 » So, at that moment, it would be six, I'm sorry, six box trucks, you said. 431 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:27,119 And then so that would six about 14 vehicles. Am I correct? Nine vehicles. 432 00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:31,880 So nine vehicles would be pulling out at a given time for that event. 433 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,880 » Nice. 434 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:51,480 » I'm sorry, Mr. Dick. You said six 16 ft box trucks in three three picks. 435 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:09,000 » Any more questions from the board? Continue. 436 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:19,079 » That is our presentation. Okay, you haven't addressed the 437 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:19,079 variances, 438 00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:22,599 » two 439 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:35,400 this was addressed to the engineer. >> Do you need the planners report? 440 00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:45,400 » Mr. Fero, on page three of the planners report, there were three variances 441 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,400 identified. So let me just review them. 442 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,800 Why are you 443 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,880 We haven't addressed the prohibited outdoor storage location. 444 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,960 Uh, is he going is the engineer going to make the case for the positive and 445 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:32,119 negative criteria? Are you 446 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,280 foresee any 447 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:51,079 potential detriment to the Liverpool's zoning plan or zoning ordinances with 448 00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:51,079 respect to this application? 449 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,839 enhance the purposes of zoning. 450 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:26,520 There's a better plan than that on the purposes at this time. 451 00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:41,040 » That's uh does our planner have any comments? 452 00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:46,880 » Sure. I actually have a a question before we get to comments. Um, the plans 453 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:51,920 seem to show encroachment onto the railroad rightway to the the northeast 454 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:57,160 uh drive aisle that loops around a building within the railroad property. 455 00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:57,160 Is that accurate? 456 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,520 Okay. 457 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:11,680 So, getting back to our previous discussion about defining the limits of 458 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:16,240 storage. Um, if you're out there on the site, you look at the pavement and you 459 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:20,559 say, "Well, that's that's my property. I drive around my building." Well, it's 460 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:24,640 the railroad's property. So, I think we would want to avoid storing things 461 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:29,359 within the railroad right away for a lot of different reasons. 462 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:33,480 Um, what what mechanism do you propose to prevent that from happening? 463 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:02,839 Five. 464 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:26,440 » Okay. I think that's >> So somebody mentioned name there today. 465 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,800 solid 466 00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:41,319 cover from the barrier that in most of that in 467 00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:50,520 that has overgrown trees that have been there for very very long. 468 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,960 So, I guess it'll be a matter of because part of this is ensuring that we have an 469 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,559 accurate record should there be any need for enforcement field verification in 470 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:12,400 the future. Not that you're going to do anything wrong, but um the the plan 471 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:17,680 right now shows the wood line a bit further out and you can drive around the 472 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:23,119 building and you've got some lawn area next to the pavement. So, I think Mr. 473 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:29,280 Lamoth's recommendation or something similar is a good one again 474 00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:33,280 to keep your activity on your property, keep it defined. If somebody from the 475 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:37,040 township needs to go out and and verify that you're working where you're 476 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:42,200 supposed to be working, then we all know what space that is. 477 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,200 » Um, 478 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,960 right here. 479 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,319 Yeah. No, I'm not I'm not asking you to define the edge of the existing woods. 480 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:08,520 I'm talking about the top and the bottom basically. 481 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,520 » Yeah. Um 482 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:16,880 » now, um one more followup for whoever would like to answer. We've talked about 483 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:22,000 how there's a pond and the undeveloped part of the property is is wet. Do you 484 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:27,040 have any concerns about storing what I assume is fairly heavy equipment on a 485 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:32,240 unstabilized grass area when you have some rain or snow over the winter and 486 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:36,640 the ground gets saturated? Um, is that going to be an issue for your business 487 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:42,559 for the site? It would be if I I I've been at this 488 00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:47,640 building three or four times a week for the last six months since this was start 489 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:55,920 um I don't so where I would go I mean there's there's a point where you know 490 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,359 unless something I don't see 491 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:04,240 you know would have to be something like I we had a ton of the past month I've 492 00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:08,960 gone during the come back to or however it works stays 493 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,920 in that pond there. I'm sure it grows out a little bit more but doesn't come 494 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:19,520 anywhere near the area and obviously that's my 495 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:26,240 the risk I would have if I we're very even where I am right now familiar with 496 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:30,720 every time there's the last 12 can't be best there 497 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:34,559 » and we have to work we have to go we're so weather dependent because this is 498 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,000 that we're always in there we're always looking to see what's going on and 499 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:43,200 there's threat of flash flooding have the grave. We bring energy to what we 500 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:49,520 feel is the same thing as we go. So got something we always 501 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:54,480 ready to make, you know, whatever change. 502 00:56:50,880 --> 00:57:00,559 » Okay. Um and then keep thinking of additional questions. So the um proposed 503 00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:05,040 outdoor storage, we've got containers that are on site, we've got amusements 504 00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:11,119 on trailers. Would you be willing to limit it to things that are either 505 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:15,520 containerized or fixed on trailers? No pallets, no loose chairs, tents, 506 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:20,799 equipment that are just kind of scattered around. 507 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:26,079 » Okay. So, the outdoor storage would be strictly 508 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:31,720 fixed trails. We have three dumps that have slow. 509 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:43,440 » Okay. But I think you know defining the area, keeping things orderly, keeping 510 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:48,400 things, you know, so that they don't don't sprawl out and cause any issue 511 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:53,599 with the neighbors. So, um, you know, Mr. Sharon, with with the testimony that 512 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,799 we've heard, I think that um you know, there are some improvements that are 513 00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:01,280 being proposed here compared to the existing site certainly with enhancing 514 00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:06,000 the buffer to the neighbors. You know, the zone permits a variety of uses that 515 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:11,520 may be more intense than what's happening here. You could have a factory 516 00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:18,160 operating 247 here as a permitted use with a daily truck traffic coming to and 517 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:23,520 from. Um so you know I think on the on the balance the uh proposal with some of 518 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:29,520 the things we've discussed to limit storage limit the scale and location and 519 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:33,520 enhance the buffering in particular um do advance several purposes of zoning 520 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:40,400 and we'll improve the visual environment on the property. So um you know I think 521 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:44,960 on in in those ways I think um we've worked towards some some improvements. 522 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:51,040 » Thank you. Um, I'm I'm a little concerned we don't have a plan on uh 523 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:56,720 lighting, landscaping, signage, things like that. But let's see. Uh, I know the 524 00:58:53,359 --> 00:59:01,200 answer is what's how does it work when that doesn't happen? So, should the 525 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:08,160 board choose to approve? How do we get these plans and who has 526 00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:12,720 the authorities at the engineer to uh approve of the fence and what have you? 527 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:18,400 We can make it a condition of approval that they provide a lighting plan 528 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:22,880 subject to Mr. Kovar's review of approval. Uh if they needed a 529 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:28,160 landscaping plan again that could be subject to approval of our board planner 530 00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:33,520 or engineer. So there could be conditions of 531 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:39,119 » very good. So what is the process then? Jeremy, the only thing I would um 532 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:44,559 in terms of putting language in the resolution that defines the area where 533 00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:48,000 the storage area, the outdoor storage area, I just like to me a little. 534 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:51,680 » Okay. >> Because I' I've heard different numbers 535 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,400 and >> are you talking about a measurement or 536 00:59:53,119 --> 01:00:01,119 what will be stored there? >> No, no. The the area in which those the 537 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:04,319 containers and the trains and where everything is going to be stored. Can 538 01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:08,319 you address that at all? >> Yeah, you could do that. I mean, I think 539 01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:14,720 the area that we're talking about between the buttons is the area that I 540 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:20,720 would primarily using to put my trucks and monkeys 541 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:30,240 um on property. The problem is it isn't a uh forsighted square area. It's an 542 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:34,240 area that suits. other than say as part 543 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:40,760 that's the best way find otherwise you you'll have a snake like 544 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,760 and bounds So 545 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:43,799 » sir, 546 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,440 I think 547 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:38,720 be nice to have a plan. Um, counselor, are you satisfied with 548 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:42,160 that? later. Sure. 549 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:47,839 » May I add one comment for the board's consideration? So, we we talked briefly 550 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:54,640 about deer resistant shrubs and whether or not they are truly deer resistant and 551 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:59,280 so forth. Um, and I leave it to Mr. Priodoro about the right way to craft a 552 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:05,839 potential condition, but I think there should be some obligation to maintain 553 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:10,400 those buffer areas. If shrubs get eaten, they get replaced with something else. 554 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:14,400 Or if the shrubs prove that they just can't be sustained, then maybe that's 555 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:19,119 when a fence becomes required. Something to, you know, we plant shrubs today, 556 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:23,920 deer eat them tomorrow and just throw up our hands and say, "Oh no." Um, but I 557 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:28,640 think some condition to maintain that long term one way or another. 558 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:31,799 » Okay. I do believe counselor draining as you speak. 559 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:38,960 many uh counselor, are you okay with uh the 560 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:42,640 explanation or you want something more detailed? 561 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:48,280 » We'll go with that. >> Okay. 562 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,280 Any questions of the board? 563 01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:02,160 » I believe no, we didn't we didn't limit. We 564 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:06,880 suggested Well, that the per hour be higher than 565 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,880 the block. 566 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,799 That was pretty much what we agreed to. 567 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:32,480 » This will also apply to future, right? >> Sure. 568 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:37,880 Echoing there. climbing rock walls and other 569 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,880 things. 570 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,440 Shane 571 01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:53,319 plans 572 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,839 What are the water weapons? 573 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:29,240 » Well, I think it it was addressed. It's in a flood zone K or something. 574 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,240 0.0. Can you explain that? 575 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,480 standgo. 576 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,799 » I think we put on our 577 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:53,119 » I think it was K. I think it was 0.03 and I said what the heck is that 578 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:59,559 even was 3%. What is that? >> Your application says zone X 579 01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:59,559 file. 580 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:07,039 English somebody >> English 581 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,920 » uh frequency of 582 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:19,799 event could happen but it's not 583 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:31,359 has the present owner discussed that with you at all as being an issue. 584 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:36,039 said the building. >> Very good. 585 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,039 » All I can do is like 586 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:47,000 nothing seems to make but there is still standing order that seems to be 587 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:56,880 that much. >> Any additional questions or comments? 588 01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:02,079 » Mr. Chair, if I may, just getting back to the variances. So, in our board 589 01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:06,400 planners report, the first variance that's been identified is a minimum 40ft 590 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:11,280 buffer with landscape screening is required adjacent to a residential use. 591 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:14,640 The current storage is located plus or minus 20 ft from the neighboring 592 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:19,599 residential property without any landscape screening. So, you've 593 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:23,920 addressed that, right? Yeah. storage is going to be relocated 594 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,400 so it doesn't encroach into the 40ft buffer. 595 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:30,240 » Right. >> So that variance is being eliminated. 596 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:34,880 » Yeah. >> Any existing conditions will remain as 597 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,680 they are but for purposes of our outdoor storage they will not require that 598 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,960 variance. >> The only other varian is in regard to 599 01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:51,400 the number of on-site parking spaces and I think Mr. We've represented that it 600 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,400 would be somewhere between 20 and 25. 601 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,480 » You're you're including the pickup trucks and what have you. 602 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:24,480 I'm just saying we have to pick a number. So if it's So if you want if 603 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,480 it's 20 then the board should be prepared. 604 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:35,599 » Right. So if if it is >> I believe we I believe you uh submitted 605 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,440 the 27th >> 27. 606 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:44,640 » Where do we go with that? >> Right. But in testimony, you may not 607 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:48,039 have 27 spaces, right? Isn't that what it has to do? 608 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,559 All right. So, that's for the board. You want 609 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:16,680 » 27? >> You want to go with 27? 610 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,680 » That's That's the That's 611 01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:21,560 » Let's go with 27. >> 27. 612 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:30,719 » All right. Any other comments before we open up the meeting to the public? 613 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:35,359 » Um, this is a this is a comment and a point of information. Um, I'm not sure 614 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:41,679 if the current owner informed you, but there is a cat colony on the property 615 01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:47,679 now. And there's a local um, organization called the Save the Animal 616 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:52,880 Rescue team that uh, visits that site, I think, on a weekly basis. Uh don't be 617 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:59,400 surprised if they come and ask you for access to the property once a week or so 618 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,400 to feed those cats. 619 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:08,640 » All right. >> Uh 620 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:14,080 » I don't know what the counselor rules are. 621 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:18,000 » Anyway, I won't even go there. Um all right, we're going to open the meetings 622 01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:22,159 to the public. If you wish to address your board, you'll come up to the 623 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:28,400 podium. Not yet. Not yet. Um counselor, our attorney will ask you 624 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:33,440 for your name. He will square you in because it's just not comments. 625 01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:38,080 Everything spoken here is testimony. This is a quasi legal form. 626 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:42,239 » Okay. >> So, Mr. Chairman, the members of the 627 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:46,080 public will be able to comment in andor ask question. 628 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:50,400 » Yes. Thank you. Not yet. 629 01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:53,120 You can stand. Don't talk. >> All right. May I have a motion to open 630 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,280 up the meeting to the public? >> Some move. 631 01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:56,320 » All those in favor? >> I 632 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,880 » I >> Thank you. 633 01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:04,800 » One second. Please raise your right hand. You swear or affirm the testimony 634 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,840 that you're about to give before this board is going to be the truth, the 635 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,560 whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Okay. Please tell us your name, spell 636 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:18,760 your last name, and then give us your address. 637 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:18,760 » Bonnie Nerato. C A N A R I ATL 638 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:27,320 » and your address me >> 67 Dewey Avenue 639 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,320 that's 640 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:37,120 » okay. So my concern was I got the letter um of course where I'm upset and nervous 641 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:42,719 because where my house is it's directly across from the brush company. I can see 642 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:47,360 the whole back of it. And basically since we moved there 23 years ago, it's 643 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:53,280 been quiet, very quiet. Does have a travel trailer delivered once in a 644 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:58,239 while, but that's it. So now when I heard that this equipment would be 645 01:10:54,800 --> 01:11:02,239 coming into my residential area where I'm sure you all own homes, understand 646 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:08,880 you don't want any of this in your backyard or in your front yard. 647 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:17,679 I was concerned about more trap, more noise and also I have to look at that 648 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:22,400 every single day. I didn't buy my house with carnival. I bought it with an empty 649 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:29,600 spot where we had no problem. 650 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:34,960 So, I am very concerned and we're all very upset about that 651 01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:41,199 we have to deal with and I just hope you guys understand 652 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:45,520 whether it's your house we're all having this 653 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:52,480 I don't know noise. I don't know how much tra we're traffic constant I'm sure 654 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:57,199 on the bus times in and out tractors big trucks um I deal with it once in a 655 01:11:55,760 --> 01:12:02,960 while with the brush company but it's once a week now it's going to be a lot 656 01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:10,640 more and um yeah not happy about 657 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:16,000 when I tell you if I stand here I can see right the back 658 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:21,360 so now every time I make White House state mit I had a deal with 659 01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:27,199 truck didn't wait and stand 660 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:31,080 I reset there I did not by my health that's still a part 661 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:41,600 just hope you all understand in my situation if this is your house 662 01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:45,600 » thank you for your comments >> chairman I have a question currently 663 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:49,920 You're saying that a tractor trailer comes by once a week with the current 664 01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:54,719 establishment. >> They do their little delivery. They drop 665 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:57,920 their stuff off and once in a while we do have a problem with them getting back 666 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:02,719 out. Not often. Sometimes they're really big 667 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:09,280 and they can't get out and they knock on doors 668 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:13,280 to move. But it's basically quiet. Very quiet. 669 01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:17,679 The block's always empty. There's one car parked there. You don't see anything 670 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:21,440 in the back to walk back there and be passed into 671 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:26,239 the line. I'm not going to lie. And I never had a problem. I never did 672 01:13:23,679 --> 01:13:30,679 problem. Just I can't imagine looking at this and feeling with some restitude. 673 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:43,560 You should welcome yourself by situation. 674 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,560 Would you be glad to be Joe? 675 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,159 » Thank you. 676 01:13:52,719 --> 01:13:56,400 » Please raise your right hand. Do you swear from the testimony you're about to 677 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:59,600 give before this board is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing 678 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:05,440 but the truth? Please tell us your name, SP, and give us your address. It's 679 01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:09,640 Fiper. S L I K E R1. I just got a couple of questions. 680 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:17,600 Yes, >> you're saying that uh I live on 41. So 681 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,600 I'm not I'm right across from that first. 682 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,360 So I'm looking at 683 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:32,239 So now my question is are you going to be building 684 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:35,239 across the back or in that block window? 685 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:44,640 Oh, I mean basically like it's like it's basically like 686 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:50,080 that would only look without going where you put 687 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:53,440 back go backside you can't see from the street 688 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:58,080 that's what I'm saying because I you're saying you really can't put enough on 689 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:03,199 track how is he going to put all that stuff on back of the building with the 690 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:06,440 track side then you can't get around the property itself. 691 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:12,080 » He's not he's not speaking of putting it in the back of the property. It's going 692 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,320 to be on the side >> back of the property. 693 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,719 » There's no room. >> It's the tracks, 694 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:21,040 » right? >> His front more like his front door, 695 01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:25,199 their front door is like, you know, like a park there. The 696 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:30,560 trucks come in and they go around the tracks, then they back in slowly. That's 697 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:36,480 what I was saying. He got he's got he says like 16 of Where's he going to be? 698 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,960 He can't fit all that stuff in front of his book. 699 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:43,440 » That's what I'm saying. Am I going to be seeing that out my my front window 700 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:47,280 looking across the street like >> chairman? I think his testimony was he 701 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,960 was going to store it next the current storage containers. 702 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:54,800 » Yeah. >> Which is further south than even merit a 703 01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:56,719 entrance is itself. >> Right. 704 01:15:55,199 --> 01:16:04,640 » But you guys are talking brides now. He's got 14 trucks instead. nine trucks 705 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:08,080 or six box trucks and three big nine vehicles 706 01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:14,960 box trucks 16 foot box trucks a straight shot and uh wel 707 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:18,880 think if he hit anything you know where you can't see and you said you're going 708 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:23,400 to put gates right are you going to put gates up on that side what about the 709 01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:23,400 other side 710 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,239 putting dates on one side 711 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:34,560 Right. I >> think the intention of the gates is to 712 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,040 hide the aesthetics more than it is to not allow access. 713 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:48,480 » That's we we tried to do something with that street years ago. So you couldn't 714 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:53,719 do nothing that far get around you wanted 715 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:53,719 that 716 01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:07,440 » Miles Avenue is down to the left as I'm looking at the property. 717 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:12,880 He says, "What does Miles Avenue actually look like visually?" 718 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:18,560 » He said, "The dirt dry place." I said, "No one no one moves." The guy 719 01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:25,800 that's there now and used to plow, but he used to plow out out to the street 720 01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:25,800 out next sto. 721 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,560 » Okay. >> That was that was an 722 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:37,040 » Yeah. >> I just wanted to let you know that 723 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:41,640 that's all. Thank you for your comments. Anyone else wish to address the board? 724 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,040 » Hey, raise your right hand. Do you swear affirm the testimony you're about to 725 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,600 give before this board is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing 726 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,560 but the truth? >> Okay. Please tell us your name, spell 727 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:06,400 your last name, and give us your address and then we'll go to the next person. 728 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:09,280 » My name is 75. 729 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:14,400 » I'm sorry. How do you spell your last name? 730 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:16,239 » G L O R I A uh D U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q 731 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,640 U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U Q U P. 732 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:25,040 » And your address? >> 75. 733 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:27,600 » 75. Okay, >> I bring my daughter. 734 01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:31,760 » Okay. I try to speak English, but I better 735 01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:34,560 speak English. Thank you. >> Welcome. 736 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:37,440 » All right, let's let's swear you. You swear from the testimony you're about to 737 01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:41,199 give before this sport. It's going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing 738 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:45,840 but the truth. Please tell us your name. Tell your Well, obviously you have the 739 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:49,080 same last name. Oh, okay. 740 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:56,120 And your address? Okay. 741 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:08,400 Uh I have a different question. The first one is that uh the the streets uh 742 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:13,040 they say in the future the traffic is heavy and I think in the streets is for 743 01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:21,679 residents only for traffic and in the future. 744 01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:28,239 The old roads they come to pay for that district. We pay for the same streets. 745 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:36,239 That is my first question. And in my second question is then 746 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:43,120 the noise I have at 76 years old leaving my house my mom and the noise is 747 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:49,760 different with uh 7 in the morning 7 at night different hours the drugs going on 748 01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:53,920 back and the other question is the traffic is starting at 7 in the morning 749 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:57,440 and some say busy times or season sometimes in 750 01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:03,120 March April and June that is the time that the 751 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,360 kids going to the school my daughter going to the school she walk 752 01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:12,480 to the school at that time and the traffic in that area for now it's 753 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:18,239 difficult for now the people is scary all the time and that time with the the 754 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:23,120 drugs what happened with the the kids and the dogs I have actually I have 755 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:26,960 three dogs what happened with that with the all dogs that we have in the island 756 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:33,280 we can't around in the morning if it's all the 757 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:36,600 drugs. That is my question and my daughter 758 01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:01,239 not much love. 759 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,480 » You welcome to school three. 760 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:13,480 » Thank you. 761 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,280 You swear affirm the testimony that you're about to give before this report 762 01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:28,080 is going to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing truth. 763 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:33,360 » Please tell us your name, spell your last name, and give us your address. 764 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:40,640 » My name is Max Markour, M A R Q A R. I live at 92 Bergen Drive. 765 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:45,760 Uh, so I'm I border a lot too. I don't have the same concerns the immediate 766 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:51,120 neighbors. Um, also I've been a customer public business that's proposing good 767 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:55,760 business there. So no issues there. Um, my issue is the fact that the heavy 768 01:21:53,840 --> 01:22:01,679 heavily forested area that we talked about that we said it's unusable. Uh, 769 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:06,719 it's pretty easy to when you buy five acres I own property outside of Little 770 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:12,480 Falls as well. Uh, you buy five acres, it's incredibly rare that anyone's 771 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:17,920 buying five acres. not used for anything. Uh obviously I'm 772 01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:23,040 a little bit spoiled. We we borrowed trees. It's great. Aesthetic is fine. Uh 773 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:26,560 it's obviously wetland. Most of my questions were answered 774 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:32,480 quick. Uh my statement really just kind of dives into the fact that to appease 775 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:36,239 the other immediate neighbors, myself and my immediate neighbors want to make 776 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,880 sure that the town and it seems like everybody's on the same page, but we 777 01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:43,440 want to make sure the town looks out for the fact that no part of this five acres 778 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:49,199 becomes any kind of storage or junkyard. As far as so one set of neighbors, we're 779 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:53,440 not now going to store this in the back where I look out my back window and I'm 780 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:56,159 looking at broken down rides or any of that. As long as this doesn't become a 781 01:22:54,719 --> 01:23:00,800 junkyard, we're not talking about tapping into sewage. Um, future 782 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:04,480 development obviously at a later point be a major concern for us because there 783 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:09,280 is water table there. Uh, when we have bad storms, I'm outside. I'm in the I 784 01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:13,280 think I'm in the 500 yard link. So, if we click there's one 500 year chance, 785 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,480 whatever. Sometimes that could happen more frequency during some of the bad 786 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:20,719 storms we've had in the nine years that I've been there. My water in the 787 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:24,800 backyard doesn't drain already. So any development of that property could be 788 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:30,080 major problem later on. Uh but myself and our neighbors on the other side of 789 01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:33,840 that we have over on the Bergen side. We want to make sure that this doesn't 790 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:36,719 become well okay it's just woods. We can store anything we want there. We can put 791 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:40,320 the containers there. It's out of sight for the immediate neighbor that look at 792 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:44,159 the property. Uh that's really our only concern. We don't want to be looking at 793 01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:48,080 all the rides. Sure nobody does obviously. Uh 794 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,600 but from what it sounds like it doesn't sound like immediate plan to expect that 795 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:56,719 it's just that we want to make sure that everybody here's our concern of 5 acres 796 01:23:54,639 --> 01:24:01,600 is a lot of area 5 acres is a lot of area specific to live right and every 797 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:06,239 town in New Jersey builds we all build we build up I don't know how many 5acre 798 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:12,000 lots even exist in this township and probably no is my guess I could be wrong 799 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:15,280 uh so my our concerns are you know obviously in the future we address what 800 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:18,239 may need to be addressed But we also want to just make sure we don't start 801 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:23,360 cutting trees down. Make it a space where now we can store to appease ex 802 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:27,280 neighbors and now why neighbors get forgotten about. We're staring at a 803 01:24:24,639 --> 01:24:31,199 storage junkyard even though it's marsh and a lot of it is wetland. Doesn't seem 804 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,840 like any of us know why the water is there but the pond is there, the 805 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:40,480 standing water's there. Uh so as long as that's understood, you know, that's 806 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:44,239 pretty much the statement that I have to make is that we don't want to have 807 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:47,920 storage junkyard broken down rides or all of the containers now being pushed 808 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:52,000 off into what's being called unusable or forest there. You know, you buy five 809 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:56,400 acres, you want to use part of that five acres, there's zero way that I think 810 01:24:54,880 --> 01:25:00,960 that we're just going to buy five acres not. Uh so as long as that's taken into 811 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:04,080 consideration, you know, myself and many neighbors, we discussed it. you know, we 812 01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:09,120 don't have other objections. If it's going to status quo stay the same, you 813 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:13,920 know, for our end, we get it. But as long as it's the same page as us as far 814 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:17,360 as we don't want to just start taking part of this land and using it for 815 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:21,760 storage just because it's out of sight, out of office, but then it's an arsenal. 816 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:25,280 So, I appreciate the due diligence. 817 01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:30,639 » Thank you very much. >> Yeah, Mr. If I if I just may quickly so 818 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:36,560 uh in regard to those last few comments that's why we worked very hard to define 819 01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:41,440 the area of outdoor storage. So Mr. Markbart in regard to your questions 820 01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:46,320 about uh storing it during that in the area of that forested area or expanding 821 01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:50,000 it back there. Um if the board were to approve it and naturally the board has 822 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:55,440 not rendered its decision yet. If that were to take place, um we've heard and 823 01:25:53,679 --> 01:25:59,199 the applicant stipulated into the limited area in which there would be 824 01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:03,600 outdoor storage. In terms of any future development 825 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:08,000 right now, uh nothing is proposed, but in the event there would be the 826 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:13,520 applicant seeks to develop further on the property, they would have to come 827 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:17,000 back before this board. So, thank you. >> Anyone else? 828 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:24,320 No one else coming forward. I close the meeting to the public. 829 01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:28,320 Any questions or comments from the board? 830 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:34,800 » Yeah, chairman. I'd like to make a brief comment. My comment is thinking 831 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:39,600 considering this application. Lord needs to consider that this is an 832 01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:43,600 industrial zone and that the industrial zone in Little Falls has a pretty 833 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:50,719 expansive list of what would be permitted on site. And we need to 834 01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:54,880 consider what this use is compared to what uses that would otherwise be 835 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:59,040 permitted are on the site and determine if this is a use that is better than 836 01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:04,239 what many others could be or if this is worse. And in again just encourage the 837 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:07,440 board to consider that you know in an industrial zone there's a pretty 838 01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:11,360 expansive list of things that would be permitted and Mr. Maria, do you know the 839 01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:17,280 hours of operation in industrial zones in Little Falls? 840 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:22,320 There is none. Right. So theoretically, use of this property at any time is 841 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:30,560 permitted in the industrial zone because there is no restriction on the times of 842 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:36,159 operation. And if a factory wanted to open here with 53 ft tractor trailers 843 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:41,440 coming in on the property regularly and if they wanted to operate round the 844 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:46,800 clock, we would have very little ability to prohibit that type of use. And we 845 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:54,520 have an applicant here who has made some concessions this evening. 846 01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:54,520 » Thank you. Any additional comments? 847 01:27:54,639 --> 01:28:03,199 Any comments from our professionals? >> Nothing. 848 01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:07,520 » Engineer. No. Trainer. >> Nothing further. Mr. Chairman, 849 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:12,400 » Mr. Brigley Duro, you have any uh comments? You've already covered a lot, 850 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:16,800 » right? I just um the applicant is seeking site plan approval. 851 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:20,880 » There are two variances required in connection with this. Uh that's for the 852 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:27,840 outdoor storage and also the number of on-site parking spaces where 41 are 853 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:32,000 required and 27 spaces would be proposed. 854 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:37,440 I'm going to quickly run through some of the conditions that 855 01:28:34,639 --> 01:28:44,880 that I have based on uh comments and stipulations on behalf of the applicant. 856 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:49,600 One would be the containers would be uh painted or cleaned and refurbished to 857 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:54,159 improve their appearance. There would be nothing stored on top of 858 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:59,280 the containers. There'll be a limit of uh the limit of four containers which 859 01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:03,600 currently exist on the site. They're going to add additional 860 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:07,360 landscaping or planting arbor vidy trees. the nature and sufficiency of 861 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:12,159 which would be subject to review and approval of our board planner. There'll 862 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:16,800 be no work outside of the building before 7 a.m. 863 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:21,920 They're going to add landscaping to the northerly side of the property, provide 864 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:26,159 a visual buffer. Uh they're going to move the storage 865 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:32,880 containers outside of the 40ft buffer area with plan arboriting. 866 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:37,120 Also, they provided uh we went through the technical process of our board 867 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:41,120 engineer and they're going to comply with these with the technical comments 868 01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:44,120 contained in the board engineers review report. 869 01:29:44,639 --> 01:29:50,159 Um I believe they stipulated there would be no kind of pallets or anything else 870 01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:54,719 stored outside other than what they represented to be stored on on the 871 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:59,800 record tonight and they will maintain buffer areas on a long-term basis. 872 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:09,120 Um, did you refer to two variances or three? 873 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:14,960 » There were three variances originally. One was eliminated because they are 874 01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:17,120 relocating the containers out of the buffer. 875 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:23,199 » Thank you. >> So, there's two two for outdoor storage 876 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:27,040 and for the north side parking spaces. >> Very good. Any discussion among the 877 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:31,440 board members? May I have a motion? 878 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:37,440 » Chairman, I'll make a motion that we approve this application based on the uh 879 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:43,239 points and facts articulated by our board attorney. 880 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,239 » Thank you. May I have a second? 881 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,840 » Please pull the board. >> Mr. Barry, 882 01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:53,840 » yes. >> Mr. Kash, 883 01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:57,360 » no. >> Mr. Luke Damiano. 884 01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:59,360 » Yes. Miss Pataldo, >> yes. 885 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,440 » Mr. Posus, >> no. 886 01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:03,520 » Mayor Damiano, >> yes. 887 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,320 » Councilman Spila, >> no. 888 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:10,000 » Mr. Dolan, >> yes. 889 01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:13,400 » Chairman Kilpatrick. I'm 890 01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:13,400 » not counting. 891 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:20,400 I lost track. Interesting. Chairman votes. Yes. Is the motion approved, 892 01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:24,320 Valerie? >> Six. Yes. 893 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:27,040 Three. No. Oops. >> Thank you. 894 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:31,159 Thank you. >> Welcome to the call. 895 01:31:38,639 --> 01:31:47,280 » Uh let's finish up our business. Is there any old business before the board? 896 01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:49,840 Any new business? I have a motion for adjournment. 897 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,120 » So move. >> Second. 898 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:55,840 » Second. >> All in favor? 899 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,840 » I. We are turn work.