1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,960 30. >> That's a long meeting. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,840 » All right, let us call this meeting to order. Thank you for being here tonight, 3 00:00:08,639 --> 00:00:14,000 everyone. >> Um, let's start with the city council 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,880 leazison report who's not going to be here. Do we have any updates from him? 5 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:20,480 » We do not. >> Okay. Um, Tim, do you want to kick us 6 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:23,760 off for the director's report? >> Sure. First thing we would like to do, 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,279 ma'am, first thing I'd like to do is introduce those of you who have met her, 8 00:00:25,279 --> 00:00:29,920 our finance director, Lori Mata, who is here. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,800 She has been interested since she got here in kind of the logistics of how the 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:39,200 grant program for the lodgers tax works. So, she's here this evening and may join 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:42,320 us in August, too, if uh if uh if she had her schedule allow, but she's 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,840 obviously obviously busy putting together the city budget. So, we 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:51,090 appreciate you being here. And then I will issue my standard apology for the 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:55,280 climate control or lack thereof here. [clears throat] We think we're about a 15 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:59,520 month or so out from it being done. Unless I just jinxed us. probably just 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,359 jinxed [laughter] it. >> But it's it is someone asked me how the 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,520 summer is going. Well, it's an adventure because every day we don't aren't sure 18 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:10,880 if it's going to be 65 or 85 in building and it kind of depends on what part of 19 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:16,880 the building you're in. But we are staying close to the end of the project 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:22,960 and that >> libraries also have been an exciting and 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:27,360 um surprising turn kind of summer. We're not like if we're not sure if it's going 22 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:30,960 to be 65 or 85 in the in the museum. Uh we're not sure if we're gonna have 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:34,799 65,000 or 85,000 people at the library. Um [laughter] 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:39,439 no, to to uh to be serious, I want to sing the praises of my team in terms of 25 00:01:36,479 --> 00:01:45,520 their ability to pivot and adapt. Um we have had um some some unusually 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,399 some unusual traffic patterns at the library, which I mean summer is 27 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:52,240 typically our busy season over across the street. That's no surprise, but it 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,759 seems like a lot of our programs are and a lot of our activities are seeing much 29 00:01:54,159 --> 00:02:01,439 more participation than usual in a year when we're having some vacancies in key 30 00:01:57,759 --> 00:02:06,560 positions. So, credit to the team um for pulling together and making things work. 31 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:09,759 Um not always easy, but they're doing a great job of continuing to serve our 32 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,160 community through through the summer, and I just want to give credit to them 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,239 for that. >> Excellent. Uh our summer, our high 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:20,160 activity season runs through the end of July for the under 18 crowd, 18 and 35 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:25,200 under crowd. Um adults get an extra month into August and before we know it, 36 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:27,680 we'll be in the school year. So >> busy times over there. 37 00:02:26,239 --> 00:02:33,040 » Busy times. [laughter] Gear's almost over. 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:37,280 » Okay, moving into public comment. Um we do have a signin sheet. Each speaker 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:42,080 will be limited to three minutes. The Arts and Culture Board is not authorized 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:46,000 by Colorado Open Meetings Law to discuss comment or take action at the meeting on 41 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,640 any issue raised by public comment that is not part of tonight's agenda. Um, we 42 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:54,959 can refer the matter to the appropriate city staff for immediate comment after 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:59,920 public comment or to obtain additional information and report back to the board 44 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:03,720 as I do see we've got somebody here signing in. Hi Pam. 45 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:23,120 Uh, hi Arts and Culture Board. My name is Pam Chaporn. I'm the downtown and um 46 00:03:18,959 --> 00:03:27,840 I was looking at the economic impact report with interest. I think it's 47 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:34,480 great. Um, but something struck me right away, really glaringly obvious. And so 48 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:40,159 um that's what I'm going to talk about. Um 49 00:03:36,799 --> 00:03:45,440 the f first thing it says is uh looking at visitation drivers, resource 50 00:03:42,239 --> 00:03:50,239 activation and datadriven strategies. You know arts and culture in the picture 51 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:54,879 is downtown. Downtown is a historic preservation 52 00:03:52,000 --> 00:04:00,239 district and the sense of place and the buildings and the place where art is 53 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,840 installed is in a historic preservation district. If you can't look at the 54 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:08,799 buildings and the structures, I don't think you have the same arts and culture 55 00:04:05,519 --> 00:04:12,480 experience. And historic preservation needs the same things, visitation 56 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:18,959 drivers, resource activation, and datadriven strategies. And the economic 57 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:24,479 impacts are can be great or they can be harmed by mistakes made with historic 58 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:29,840 preservation as much as it can with arts and culture. In fact, maybe more because 59 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:34,080 Littleton's historic um you know for downtown the comment was made uh 20 60 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,880 years ago there was nobody down there but then we created the district and 61 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:46,479 slowly that changed. Um, and you could say it's a vital 62 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:49,680 component of what downtown is. Uh, Hudson Gardens could be considered 63 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:56,479 historic. I don't know where where we're going to go with that, but anyway, um, 64 00:04:52,240 --> 00:05:01,040 that sense of place and and, uh, the the economic asset that you have by historic 65 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:07,840 preservation cannot be separated from arts and culture. I think um, that isn't 66 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:13,120 your job. It's our sta our city management's job and it's not being 67 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:22,000 performed. Um I don't want to sound uh like I'm trying to uh it's a problem 68 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:29,840 that we have that small cities have. um oftentimes they don't integrate work 69 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:34,800 well and we have a historic board and commission history where the division of 70 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:39,680 labor doesn't reflect these realities of um the 71 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:46,320 interdependency of the sense of place, the architecture, the buildings and the 72 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:51,600 arts and culture that's there. So, um, so this report is interesting to me 73 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:56,720 because just imagine what it would be if it relied on a sense of place with 74 00:05:53,440 --> 00:06:00,880 historic preservation and um, we could count on that and then we could look at 75 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:05,680 other places and buildings that would be city assets as well. We need money for 76 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:10,479 historic preservation and we're not getting it. We need attention and we 77 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,400 need design standards that we used to have which we don't have anymore. and 78 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:21,280 I'm really fearful that we're going to lose our historic assets. 79 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:26,600 » So, um, that's what I wanted to bring to your attention. Thanks very much. 80 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:26,600 » Thank you, Pam. 81 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:36,080 » All right, not seeing anyone else that would like to speak. 82 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:43,199 Um, moving into old business um the arts and culture economic impact study and 83 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:48,560 memo, we did have um economic development out recently to share with 84 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:53,680 us and I believe there was an email sent from Tim with some updates um regarding 85 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:58,080 impact study. There were a few things that um staff was able to catch and I 86 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,599 also think a few board members caught as well. So, thank you for reviewing that 87 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:06,479 and sending in all of those um updates and changes. This is really just to kind 88 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,479 of close the loop with this. Um there's no formal action really needed tonight, 89 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:15,039 but I wanted to make sure we had a few minutes to discuss if there were any 90 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:20,639 questions or anything we wanted to um you know, talk about before we move into 91 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:24,199 our new business. So, sure if there's anybody that has 92 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:30,880 » when is this presented to city council? This will be on um the 28th, July 28th, 93 00:07:29,599 --> 00:07:36,000 the same night that we'll be doing our recap for the Arts and Culture Board, 94 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:38,800 but I hope all of them um but I believe they are we're scheduled first. 95 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,440 » They're after us. >> They're after us. 96 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:46,720 » Right now, we're okay. Then they're going to be after us. Um it does fit in 97 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,639 really well with our strategic plan, the arts and culture strategic plan. That's 98 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:56,080 one thing that I jumped out at me when I looked through it, but I wanted to make 99 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,759 sure we had a chance to talk. Did you something that jumped out at you that 100 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:04,080 you wanted to >> I I sense my comments to Tim and 101 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:10,160 um I'm shocked they're not here to present 102 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:14,479 again tonight. Shocked. [laughter] Um, no, my my comments were mostly in 103 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:19,599 that there was I think some research oversight or very glaring things that 104 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:25,759 were left out that hopefully will be incorporated. Um, 105 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:31,039 that I I trust with the incorporation of of those very glaring elements, the 106 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:37,039 overall report will have more credibility to our city council. 107 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:40,000 » That's it. Denise, we we did send all of those catches over to economic 108 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,440 development. I talked to Rachel yesterday and those will all be passed 109 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,720 on to BBC and incorporated into the into the final draft. 110 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,880 » Great. Thank you. 111 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:55,680 » Anything else? >> I'm recalling correctly, was this the 112 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:58,471 one that felt like we attacked him? That's [laughter] 113 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,440 » and and vice versa. 114 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:12,399 » Um in the emails And if I about tonight's meeting, it was called out 115 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,040 that the attendance is still incorrect, but we're just rolling with it. Is that 116 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:18,959 correct or >> Well, I think um staff did dig into that 117 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:22,640 a little bit deeper. The one that seemed to be kind of the outlier was the 118 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,080 museum. So, the rest of them seem to be in line. 119 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,240 » Okay. >> Um but that was after some research. I 120 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:33,959 think Anna, you were the one that was putting that up, [laughter] digging into 121 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,959 all of that for us. 122 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,839 Yeah. Um, >> did I sum in? 123 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:42,800 » I think so. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think the event in question was 124 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:48,000 harvest festival, which we know because we handc count attendees. Um, which know 125 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:53,839 we know that to be much greater than the 3,000 plus something that they have on 126 00:09:50,320 --> 00:10:00,000 there. Um, but the other organizations in town that were included in that um 127 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:03,920 seem they corroborated. They said that that that that that number was like 128 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:07,200 roughly what they would expect. >> Great. And and to be fair, the museum 129 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,200 has kind of been an outlier since the city first started using Placer AI the 130 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:14,800 very first year that or the when they were actually test driving it. Um our 131 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,160 numbers just didn't match up at all. So we we so we didn't haven't done a lot 132 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:21,680 with we haven't really anything with Placer. We rely on our on our accounts. 133 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:26,560 So I do think it may just be something with with us and our location. It's and 134 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,399 it's cell phone pings versus hand counts too. So there's there's some anomaly 135 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:34,959 with us it seems like, but everyone else did did say that it was it was pretty 136 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,760 accurate. Nobody was spot on with the exact number, but it was it was accurate 137 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,839 enough that they were comfortable with it. 138 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:43,519 » Great. That [snorts] was a good question. That was one thing that 139 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:50,160 definitely came up. So thank you for asking that. 140 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:54,880 » Any other thoughts on that? Um please do feel free to come on the 141 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,000 it's a steady session on the 28th. Um, like I said, they'll be presenting this, 142 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:02,800 but we will also be, um, Tim and I will be presenting um, just the recap for the 143 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:07,279 Arts and Culture Board. And it's always good to have power and numbers. So, 144 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:13,120 » time on the 28th. >> It's at 6:30 um, the 28th, Tuesday the 145 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:18,480 20th. >> All right, new business. The first thing 146 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:23,920 we have is the depot art gallery. Um, they have requested a extension for 147 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:28,480 their grant. Um, it's nice. I think everybody was most of us were here um 148 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:32,320 for that grant um which is for the storage shed. They are requesting a 149 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,680 one-year extension. They need public works to come out and install a pad and 150 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,480 they just haven't been able to do that. So, this is something that's outside of 151 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:43,519 their control. Um but I wanted to make sure that we had this in front of you. 152 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:48,240 And because they're requesting an extension, we do need a yes no vote on 153 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:52,240 this. Um, I don't know if anybody have questions about this or if you already 154 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:56,200 had a chance to take a look at their requests that they sent over. 155 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,240 » Motion. [laughter] 156 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,000 » If there's no discussion, >> motion to extend for one year for the 157 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:11,320 depot art gallery. >> I second that. 158 00:12:07,839 --> 00:12:11,320 » All in favor? 159 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:24,800 And onto the fence, loaders, tax grants. Um, tiers one, 160 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:31,279 three, and four. I think everybody has their binders. Um, by now, tier one and 161 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:35,040 tier three. Um, in past year, we talked about this, are typically considered 162 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:40,079 passroughs for us, designated by council. Um, this is the first year, I 163 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:43,839 have to say, that everybody that's sitting on the board has gone through a 164 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:48,639 grant season. So, I think that's really exciting. I um I love that we've all had 165 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,880 a little bit of experience because it's hard to catch up to that. So, I just 166 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:56,160 wanted to recognize that tonight and say thank you to everybody because I think 167 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:02,560 that that's really um a great thing for us that we've all been here. Um tier one 168 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:06,320 and tier three. Um I don't know if there's any discussion 169 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:10,279 or some questions about tier one. if we want to talk about that first 170 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,040 » say that I'm 171 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:28,160 » just a few reminders too um that tiers one and three are essentially passroughs 172 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:33,839 to council um and tier four is probably the one where we have the most wiggle 173 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:38,639 room I'd say. Um, and another really good piece of news actually that's very 174 00:13:35,839 --> 00:13:43,160 exciting is that our projected lodgers tax revenue is up. 175 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:50,480 » Uh, last we heard from finance department is up by around 45,000 which 176 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:56,320 is great um because as Tim said earlier today in a meeting since lodgers tax and 177 00:13:53,839 --> 00:14:00,800 the first year we were down 120,000 second year down an additional 100,000 178 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:05,120 and the third year an additional 100,000 on top of that. So I think this is 179 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:10,199 probably uh it's like the opposite of the canary 180 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,959 in the coal mine. It's a good thing. [laughter] 181 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:16,399 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 182 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:20,560 » So does that change the um the number of grants in two? 183 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:24,880 » It didn't change the number. What we did was right now I think we're about 45,000 184 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:28,160 ahead of where we were last year but because it's still fairly early in the 185 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:32,000 year we haven't we haven't recommended using that at this point. But we'll be 186 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,480 coming back in August to do tier 2. We'll have some more updated numbers for 187 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:38,720 you. You can tell you whether that trend line um has has continued or whether 188 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:41,519 there's been any change to it. So, we're trying to hold off as long as we can 189 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:46,639 before we allocate just to see if there's there's a a slide back. 190 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,760 » I wrote down those estimates for each those dollar estimates if anyone's 191 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:54,800 interested in hearing them. I mean, it might change again by next month, but um 192 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:56,800 you guys want you want me to tell I can read them out? 193 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:02,959 » Yeah. >> Um Okay. So tier one is at 60%. 194 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:07,800 Um and with that estimated revenue that comes to approximately 439,000. 195 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:18,880 Um so it's around 98,000 per uh >> 109,000. Thank you. For each or of the 196 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:24,240 four organizations. >> Um and then tier 2 is at 15%. 197 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:29,160 As well as tier three. They're both at 15%. So they each come to 109,800. 198 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:36,360 And then tier four is the smallest allocation at 10% and that's around 199 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 73,000. 200 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:44,800 » Do you have a question? >> I don't have a question. I don't know if 201 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,199 I'll see it or not. >> I have comment. 202 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:56,560 So, and maybe this is later, but I feel like 203 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:03,519 while we haven't adopted policy of the 60, 15, 15, 10, we've also 204 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:08,959 rounded from time to time. And at some point, I would love to entertain the 205 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:16,079 notion of holding tier one at $100,000 each, holding tier three at $100,000 206 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,240 or whatever it is. It's 15% of our >> 100 because the same 109 207 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,320 » 100 >> well that's what it would be with the 208 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:25,120 new numbers but >> correct 209 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,920 » holding it at the 100,000 and then trying to figure out what to do with 210 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:31,920 $49,000 and I think it's an interesting 211 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:36,480 discussion some of it goes to tier two some of it goes to tier four all of it 212 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:41,360 goes to tier two and if if we want to hold tight to percentages or as we 213 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:46,320 historically have do a little bit of creative rounding to benefit the tier 214 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:50,079 twos and the or the tier twos and the tier fours. 215 00:16:48,079 --> 00:16:54,160 » I think maybe we can make a note of that for when we do the policy because um we 216 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:58,399 will be having every year we do the policy discussion followup after the 217 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:03,680 grants and I think that that is something that we should definitely have 218 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:06,799 on that list to discuss. Um maybe we can make a note of that. I know you'll 219 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:11,199 remember, but that way we can have it we can parking lot it if you will. And then 220 00:17:09,919 --> 00:17:15,839 um if there's other thoughts that you guys have too for policy um you know 221 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:21,679 updates, changes, just thoughts or questions um or even um the 222 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,760 organizations that are in tier one. That's a a conversation for when we go 223 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:30,320 back and circle back to that. I think we've had that discussion before, but I 224 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:34,240 do think that there's some um need to revisit that as well. So maybe we can 225 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:38,559 put that in the parking lot and we can that when we have the policy um 226 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:44,000 discussions, but thank you for bringing that up. I think that's definitely 227 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:49,600 something that we need to discuss. >> Were there any other things that we can 228 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,520 add to the parking lot list or thoughts that you want to add to 229 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,520 » I'm going to dig in the policy and maybe parking lot that's a little closer to 230 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,919 this year. >> Okay. 231 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:04,960 go back and watch our minutes and our videos and see where we landed. 232 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,559 » But just to just to confirm, any policy changes wouldn't affect this round. It'd 233 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:12,960 be for next year. >> Correct. Um, so we and because we don't 234 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:16,720 have it on our agenda to discuss tonight, that's typically what we 235 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,400 discuss after we go through the grant process. But I want to make sure if we 236 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:24,320 have some of those thoughts now that we get them down because it's I don't 237 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:28,240 always remember, but it's easy to go back if we have a list of things that we 238 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:32,960 could talk about. >> Does the policy require distribution of 239 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:37,000 100% of the funds? >> It does. 240 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,000 » Yeah. Okay. 241 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:48,640 discussion or >> are we are we discussing 242 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:54,880 » Well, we we do tonight need a yes no vote for the logers tax tiers one three 243 00:18:52,160 --> 00:19:00,760 and four. Um, but I wanted to make sure we had an opportunity to have a little 244 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,760 discussion first. 245 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:09,520 » Going to be this person again, partially because this is my day job. Um, but for 246 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:16,000 the city of Littleton communications and events application, like it was open 247 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:20,880 application for tier three, I am like once again disappointed with it's like 248 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:27,919 more robust than the first the first draft last year, but it feels as though 249 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:32,720 there's like nothing new and we're just going to keep 250 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:38,200 doing the same things. Um, 251 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,200 and 252 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:44,799 I don't I just feel a little weighed with 253 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,440 what they're going for. >> I agree. 254 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,440 » Yeah. 255 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:54,240 » Can you possibly ask them just for a little more detail to dig in? I mean, it 256 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,640 is pretty straightforward in here, but there if 257 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:03,120 they have additional detail. I don't know because the window for asking 258 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:08,320 questions is already >> passed. Um so in theory we were supposed 259 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:12,000 to review these come send any questions prior to I don't remember what the 260 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,160 deadline was but like >> we did we didn't have any questions I 261 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,480 think for >> I only got questions on tier two. 262 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,720 » Okay >> which is what um I then compiled and 263 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:25,440 sent out to the whole board. I didn't get any any question I and I don't know 264 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:28,240 maybe Tim you feel differently but I I think it's always I I I don't know. I 265 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,480 think it would be fair to forward on questions, but I don't think it would 266 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:37,039 affect like tonight >> just to get some more color. I think not 267 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:42,240 not to affect what's in here, but >> yeah, I mean I think we could reach out 268 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:46,400 to to Jessica communications and see if they want can provide any additional 269 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:52,400 detail. Last last year when we asked for that which got a much more I think 270 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:56,400 robust response. Um, and I think they I think they did did it as an application 271 00:20:53,919 --> 00:21:00,559 and then, you know, layered in just facts and there probably is a whole lot 272 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:02,880 of additional context there. So that's I think we can do that. I don't know that 273 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:06,720 it >> I don't know that we can just because we 274 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:10,960 kind of set the deadline for when the question should be in. I don't know we 275 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:14,480 that that can necessarily affect the >> the process tonight, right? 276 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:19,919 » But I do think we can find we'll get more information for you. That was an 277 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:24,120 internal deadline and not official in any capacity. 278 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,120 » It was 279 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:31,840 » I would also like to see them respond to the there's there's quite a bit of meat 280 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:35,440 in here that has to do with advertising and communications 281 00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:40,960 that council will hear between now and when we meet again. 282 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:45,919 » Perhaps maybe it's more of a parking lot thing of 283 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:51,679 figuring out how for ongoing years 284 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:58,480 to encourage what is it Littleton to seek 285 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:03,760 uh innovation in what they're doing and not just 286 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:08,640 an expectation that they have $100,000 to do exactly the same things. So maybe 287 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,880 that's a >> Yeah, I think like 288 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,520 » conversation. >> Yeah, something that I would love to see 289 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:19,679 too is like you know I appreciate and recognize all the growth they've had 290 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:25,360 like with marketing comms and like their social media work. Um, but I think like 291 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:29,039 for our purposes like the ultimate goal of Visit Littleton is to get more people 292 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:36,400 here. And so I would love to see more data on like the actual attendance. 293 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:40,559 Listen, I know we have that in this um economic development report, but I would 294 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:46,960 love to see a little bit more like I guess grassroots information about that 295 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:51,280 and like how these numbers on social translate to you know people in hotel 296 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,679 beds. >> Yeah, 297 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,960 » I Yeah, I would I would suggest that if people have specific feedback and 298 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,679 questions or communications, they send it to me in writing 299 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,679 » like within the next week, >> right? And then that's a more tangible 300 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,200 thing that I can share with them rather than just, hey, can you provide some 301 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:11,440 more context? Because I don't I I just need more information on what exactly 302 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:16,000 you have questions on. And I'd be I'd be happy. I was also wondering if as as of 303 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:20,240 like I think they came last year, maybe we have a one meeting a year, like a 304 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,799 standing meeting where they come and do inerson updates to the board. 305 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:31,360 » Yeah, we've got some slots available in the fall coming up in the fall. Yeah, 306 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:35,400 » I think that would be helpful, too. >> Yeah, great idea. 307 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:43,986 » Okay, >> but they're required to not use the word 308 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:46,880 placer during that meeting [laughter] 309 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:50,039 for you for everybody. 310 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:59,559 » When the last time they were here, it it felt a little bit like we attacked them 311 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,559 all. it was [laughter] actually 312 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,440 » for the record I did I remember when they were here and I did say I don't 313 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:09,200 think you should be spending money on paid SEO because 314 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,559 » people aren't using Google much anymore so why would you 315 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:19,039 » continue to spend >> paid SEO and it's in their 316 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:23,440 » some firms do include AEO but I mean that would be super helpful 317 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:30,000 to show that >> yeah I mean it It basically kind of 318 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:35,679 devolved to we've got one person who has 10% of her time is able to put the 319 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,640 energy to this so what do you expect was kind of the sorry 320 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:43,200 » was kind of the attitude and then it even comes through in here where it's 321 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:48,960 like it really cost us $130,000 to do this but we're only getting a hundred is 322 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:53,360 what I read in the funding. So they're already kind of like setting 323 00:24:50,640 --> 00:25:00,400 the stage of well don't expect a lot out of us. Sorry. Anybody on the line can 324 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,360 » So, I think we get them on the calendar for the fall and they can come out and 325 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,240 talk to us. If you have some of those specific, it sounds like there's some 326 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,320 really great specific things that you're looking for. Um, you can send them to 327 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Anna. >> Um, how about by like Yeah, like mid 328 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,400 next week. >> Okay. 329 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,960 So send those out to her and then that way when they come out they'll know kind 330 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:25,840 of what we're looking for, what they um what questions we'd like to have um 331 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:28,640 answered and we can go from there. But we'll get them on the calendar for sure 332 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:35,919 like that. >> Yeah. 333 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:39,159 » Um any other discussion thoughts those tears? 334 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:51,240 We do need to approve that. Guess no vote on those. Um, if there's no further 335 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,240 discussion, I guess we need a motion. 336 00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:56,640 » Are you shy? [laughter] 337 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:01,520 » I'm not used to this. >> I'm new to 338 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,080 my motion. Anybody want to go tier by tier? 339 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:09,360 » Oh, yes. Thank you. Tear by tier. Let's start with tier one. Tim, 340 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:14,799 I need help, too. Um, tier one. So tier one we have town hall 341 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:21,279 at seven museum library and Hudson Gardens. Um as Anna said 60% goes to 342 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:24,279 that tier. Right now it's looking like $439,200 343 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:32,000 which would be $49,000 per. 344 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:38,400 So we need to approve tier one first. >> I move that we approve tier one. Second. 345 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:42,039 » All in favor. And we have one recusal. 346 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:57,440 » Um moving on to tier three which is communications state and communications 347 00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:03,600 in their proposal 15% of the res revenue which is 348 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:09,600 about $109,000. Um so we need to have a yes no vote on 349 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,600 tier three. 350 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:19,120 motion to vote from Cameron or 351 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:23,880 » whoever just waiting. [laughter] >> Okay. Um all in favor 352 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,120 post. 353 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:38,559 One thing I can do is send their both their end ofear report for the first 354 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:43,440 year 2025 end of year 2026 midyear reports so we can see a little bit more 355 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,360 of what kind of data they're gathering. >> Yeah. 356 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,360 » Awesome. >> Okay. 357 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:52,000 » I'm not trying to hold their money back. I'm just trying to 358 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,200 » see where the money's going that it's being spent well effectively. 359 00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:59,200 » Then you have to vote. >> Yeah. If if I if [laughter] anything if 360 00:27:57,679 --> 00:28:02,159 anything I would hope that they're just taking the feedback and like I would 361 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:05,520 want to ask them like what have you learned since last year in terms of 362 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,919 » that actually is a question on their mini report. So like there is an answer 363 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:12,240 to that question. >> Oh excellent. 364 00:28:10,574 --> 00:28:18,720 [laughter] >> And tier four which is the arts and 365 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:24,880 culture programming outreach planning um that is 10% of the revenue which is 366 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,600 around $73,000. We need to take a yes no vote on that 367 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:31,120 one. >> I move to 368 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,960 » Okay. >> Cheer four. 369 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:39,080 » Second. >> Jinx. [laughter] 370 00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:39,080 » All in favor. 371 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:53,559 » All right. Thank you. >> Um 372 00:28:55,769 --> 00:28:57,789 » [laughter] 373 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:09,679 » I know. Um I do want to mention everybody has their binders. Next month 374 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:16,399 is the big meeting of course. Um we are starting at five o'clock on what is that 375 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:23,960 date? The 13th. August 13th. So it is a five o'clock start time. Is that right? 376 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:23,960 No. August. Uh what is the date? 377 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:32,399 is okay. It didn't It sounded like it was further out, but Okay. Um, so it is 378 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:38,000 a 5:00 start time. We will be bringing in food um so look for that email. But I 379 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:44,320 want to make sure there's a score sheet that Anna needs um by August 7th. So you 380 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:49,919 guys all have this score. Make sure that if you have um that done, send it to her 381 00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:53,760 no later than August 7th. I'm sure she would love to have them earlier if 382 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,399 possible. I will send it all again. >> Yeah, [laughter] I'll send it all again 383 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,000 if you could. >> Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't mind at all. 384 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:04,640 And also, um, if you didn't already pick it up, I I do have hard copies on the 385 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:08,240 table over there of the answer to questions. 386 00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:13,440 » And there are two new ones on that that rolled in after I emailed it. So, please 387 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:18,159 be sure I'll send it on via email. So, you have a digital copy as well, but 388 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,320 that does have some new information for your deliberation. 389 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:30,000 Yes, you. So, by August 7th, you will be sending me for like dollar 390 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:34,559 recommendations for all of those three money categories. 391 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:38,559 » But this year, it's 392 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:43,840 » like if they ask for $20,000, they have we have to say yes to them getting 393 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:46,080 $20,000 like whatever. >> That's correct. 394 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:50,320 » So, they're only eligible for that amount that they requested. Yeah. So if 395 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,799 they ask for 20, we can't give them eight. 396 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,679 » Yeah. Okay. >> So it's more of a yes, no last year. 397 00:30:55,679 --> 00:31:00,159 » So yeah, it's not really dollar. It's >> Yeah, 398 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,399 » that was confusing, but yes. >> So you send your your recommendations 399 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,520 for organ receiving organizations for each category. 400 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,520 » Great. 401 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:15,200 » Works. Yes. >> Big chunks. 402 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:17,919 » We're not averaging anything out. >> Yeah. Jamie has a question. 403 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,799 » Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I was hoping you could take us 404 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:27,200 through how that night's going to work. And where I'm going with this is 405 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:31,520 if we're just up and down voting and and majority whoever whatever three 406 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:36,399 organizations get the most at 20,000 win. Um 407 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:41,120 I would like to facilitate conversation now about some of these applications or 408 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,600 if there will be time for that >> next month. I mean, 409 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:49,360 » I just I don't I before I'm sorry. Before people 410 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,399 » vote and say love this, I don't like this. 411 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,240 » I think there's there's nuance and conversation. I'm curious if there will 412 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:01,600 be an opportunity for that before decision. [clears throat] 413 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:05,360 » Yeah, I don't think we'd fully landed on what that will look like next month to 414 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:09,760 be honest. I think what generally what I had envisioned, what staff had talked 415 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:14,320 about was tallying up the votes and doing a simple 416 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:20,080 I don't know what is that. It's like a a bracket. You know, it's you advance 417 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:24,480 whoever gets the most recommendations with room for discussion at the August 418 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,200 meeting. >> Yeah, we had we had we had planned to 419 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:33,600 build in discussion time in each in each of the the grant areas because we know 420 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,600 that there will be some conversation about individual grants and also sort 421 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,840 since this is the first time we've read this exact format. uh you know just 422 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,200 exactly how the mechanics should work too but we definitely we're planning to 423 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:50,720 build in and we've been bringing this to leadership for our next meeting. Um but 424 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:56,159 plan was to have each one of those three grant categories um with the the 425 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,279 spreadsheet as Ann was saying and then discussion about them. We assume that 426 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:04,960 there will be some back and forth among board members to uh unless you unless 427 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:08,720 you all pick the exact same um applicant recipients which we didn't think was 428 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:12,320 super likely. [laughter] >> Yeah, I honestly think the mechanics of 429 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,720 it will sort of depend on what the vote distribution looks like. You know, if 430 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:21,120 there's a bunch of ones that get equal votes, then of course 431 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,480 I don't I don't actually know what that's going to look like yet. But if 432 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:27,279 people have recommendations or thoughts on that, maybe we should talk about that 433 00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:29,120 now. Okay, 434 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,679 » we we definitely were building in discussion time. 435 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,679 » I I just would like an opportunity to change my mind if someone offers a 436 00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:38,640 compelling >> reason one should or shouldn't receive 437 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,519 funding. >> Yeah, we we assume that there would 438 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:49,679 the votes that are sent into Anna would be people's initial thoughts very well. 439 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,840 So they're not set in stone to you is I think the assurance that 440 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,880 we're seeking as a start. >> Cool. Perfect. 441 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,760 » That definitely changed my mind. >> Yeah. 442 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:03,679 Well, and I think too, as we've discovered in past years, a lot of times 443 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:08,960 there are um things that people bring to the table that they either know from 444 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:13,119 outside of just that, you know, binder and that um scoreeet or they've gone 445 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:16,320 down the rabbit hole of doing some research on their own because I know we 446 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:22,240 have a lot of very research driven folks here. Um so, it does um lend itself. I 447 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,919 think the starting point is that that score and then of course you know 448 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,960 comments discussion from there to kind of see where we end up. 449 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:36,480 I >> mean I I agree because like basically 450 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:42,960 have you know it being three four or five you know 20,000 8,000 2,000 you may 451 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:47,200 have people that are just out. One of the questions I have is in past years I 452 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:52,240 know stadium funding is not a thing anymore. Is there are there other like 453 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:56,399 is there other funding vehicles that we've had in past years that we've kind 454 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:59,280 of directed? Nothing. >> Not that I know of. 455 00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:03,119 » Yeah, we don't think so. We don't we think the two the two that we had in the 456 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:07,280 past two years were the stadium funding and local partnership. Um most of them 457 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:11,520 went into stadium funding because they were youth oriented type of type of 458 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,400 programming. I doubt there will be a lot of opportunity. We will we'll double 459 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,640 check with the CMO and see whether whether there is any opportunity for for 460 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,560 referrals into the local partnership, but that does tend to be fairly 461 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:28,160 competitive already. We're we're kind of anticipating we'll just be it will just 462 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:36,160 be our our grant fun this year. if if we can just for my own greedy 463 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:40,560 purpose. Um I will not be here in August and 464 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:47,440 » um Becky and Anna have said I could send in my my vote. Um, the one thing that I 465 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:53,280 have doubts about, if we can talk about it, is um, the 466 00:35:49,520 --> 00:36:00,480 South Suburban, South Plat Park, um, the museum. And, um, I really want to give 467 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:07,200 that money. I really want them to work on that nature center. 468 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:11,440 My question is um you know we're giving tier one to Hudson Gardens which is 469 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:16,640 really South Suburban >> and South Suburban has a gigantic budget 470 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,480 and also like when I read about it it seemed like because of the new 471 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:26,240 development we should especially do an upgrade like why why is why are the 472 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:31,760 developers not doing that or or South Suburban like does anyone have any 473 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:36,839 insight into that one way or the other like 474 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,839 into that grant. 475 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:43,920 » I don't I don't have any insight on it, but I I think it's a valid question. I I 476 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:49,119 unless I'm forgetting something, I don't believe in any of the first regrant 477 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,520 cycles we've ever had a tier one double tip. 478 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,240 » Yeah. >> Is that correct? Yeah. 479 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:58,079 » No. And this I don't think this should be considered necessarily double. There 480 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:03,200 was some conversations or even applications to whether they were 481 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:07,920 eligible and we we decided they were because they're not directly receiving 482 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:12,800 any of that one funding for garden. >> Certainly eligible to apply. 483 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:17,000 » Oh, right. Yeah. But I Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't consider this double dip. 484 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:25,680 » Okay. If anybody does their own research and comes up with anything, if you could 485 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,480 email me or call me before I vote 486 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,320 » because I've definitely wondered about the whole South Suburban. 487 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:35,760 » Yeah. >> Their their pockets are so deep. They 488 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:37,599 get so much money. Why are they coming to us? 489 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:42,200 » Yeah. >> Why aren't they taking care of their own 490 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,200 places? 491 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,960 I think just play devil's advocate, the city's pockets are very deep and yet we 492 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,160 fund the library and museum out of tier one also. 493 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:58,240 » Yeah. >> So I don't think deep pockets 494 00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:03,920 necessarily should exclude you from receiving a grant. 495 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,160 » But we also get to vote for our city council members and we also get to vote 496 00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:10,400 for what the city does. >> You get to vote for South Suburbs. 497 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:13,440 » They do not send out ballots. You have to go find a ballot. 498 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,240 » I can request them to mail you a ballot. >> Yeah, that's a different conversation. 499 00:38:14,491 --> 00:38:20,800 [laughter] >> But that's to vote on South 500 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:26,400 my my >> my funding questions. They go with that. 501 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:31,760 » Um >> okay. So let's um we don't have tier two 502 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,960 on here our agenda. Let's if we have some of those questions 503 00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:40,240 um dig into that with I know we've already sent you questions but um 504 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,520 Michelle you're not going to be here next month so if you have a statement or 505 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:46,480 something that you want Anna to bring to the meeting for us I think that that 506 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:51,280 would be >> good for us if you wanted to send it I 507 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:57,119 think that we could do that. Um also because this is the first time we're 508 00:38:52,720 --> 00:39:00,960 doing this type of um grant process for tier 2. It's new to 509 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,720 us. this might take some extra conversation. So, just be prepared for 510 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,920 that. And I think that that's, you know, one of the great things about all of 511 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:11,680 these great conversations that we've had over the years. We've um dug into these, 512 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,400 we've all been collaborative, and we've all really just [snorts] wanted to come 513 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,240 to the best consensus. So, I think if we come in with that mindset, ready to 514 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,520 discuss, having those questions, Michelle, I know you can't be here, but 515 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,440 if you have some of those, um, you know, we'd like to also be able to have those 516 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,720 come up in that conversation. I think it's important to do that. Um, we can go 517 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,720 through all of that when we get to tier two. 518 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:40,480 » Denise, I think too that since there's been some conversation about some things 519 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,359 that we we hadn't really anticipated, if there are questions, even though we're 520 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,720 past that first deadline that Ann had, if there are some questions where you'd 521 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,359 like staff to try to do again and do a little research on something that I 522 00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:51,200 think that's still fine. We'll we'll do our best. I don't know if we'll be able 523 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,520 to find anything or not. >> Sooner rather than later. 524 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,359 » Sooner rather than later would be helpful. Yeah. 525 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,960 » Thanks. >> Okay. 526 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:03,760 » And I'll On those same notes, I I would like 527 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:08,079 since we're being asked to evaluate and adjudicate grants before we meet again 528 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,960 and have a conversation. Um, these questions and answers are very 529 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:16,720 helpful, but I do think it's important to note that some organizations were 530 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,119 asked questions and did not respond. And that's why it's important to pick up the 531 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:22,720 last two. But >> there is one organization 532 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,119 » and to me that's >> worth all of you knowing because it 533 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,640 indicates that they were not as engaged. They're not as invested. They're not as 534 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,040 eager to get this money as those that did respond. 535 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,320 » And >> and that's in the packet. It's included 536 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,839 and it says they did not respond. >> Thank you. 537 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,320 » Yeah. >> I didn't I haven't picked up any money 538 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,160 yet. >> Art elements. 539 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:49,599 » Oh, another quick update too, just so you 540 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:54,880 all know. um all of the those 2025 end of year reports with that grant 541 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:59,280 extension are all now compliant. So anything in that 2025 column that hadn't 542 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,960 yet been checked for the end of year report has now submitted. 543 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:08,400 » So love that >> if that factors into your decision- 544 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:12,160 making process at all there's one's everyone's done their homework. 545 00:41:10,688 --> 00:41:15,920 [laughter] >> That's great. 546 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:21,920 » Okay. So get ready again to that for next month. Um 547 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:29,040 round table. Can we start with you? Sure. [laughter] 548 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:36,000 » Um June was fun because it was pride month. Um Littleton Q hosted a little 549 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:42,720 like pride picnic. Um and we had like 40 people come and join us and we had a 550 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:50,400 lovely time. Um and we are launched the pride planning 551 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:57,839 committee for um Big Fried Littleton in October and our 552 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:02,800 gala is a week from Saturday. Um there are still tickets available if anybody 553 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,074 is interested in coming and I can give you a discount code if you'd like. 554 00:42:05,054 --> 00:42:07,074 [laughter] 555 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:13,920 Um, oh, and I we um 556 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,359 I t Littleton Q tabled at the block party, so I actually didn't end up 557 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:23,040 walking around, but it was a really fun night for I ran into a few of you there. 558 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:26,760 Um, it was very busy. There were lots of people, and it was very fun. 559 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:37,280 » Yeah. Uh, I I told Denise um it was awesome. My daughter was in um they did 560 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:42,960 they opened up a third night or third day um of The Little Mermaid. So they 561 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:46,720 had Friday, Saturday, Sunday show. It's amazing to watch that little nugget um 562 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:52,240 take to something I would have never expected her to do. Um and but some of 563 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:55,760 the kids are just absolutely phenomenal. Um it's impressive to watch. I'm so I'm 564 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,520 so proud to have something like that so close to home. Um went to Littleton 565 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:07,359 Block Party. That was absolutely amazing. I saw you a couple different 566 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:12,319 times. Um I was curious if so ovations next month. 567 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:18,079 Are we going to get tables at all for that or is that a thing? 568 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,359 » Good question. No, no one no one has asked us about it. So, 569 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:24,960 » okay. I'm gonna I mean I'm going to get tickets regardless, but I was just 570 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:31,359 curious if anybody needs >> I recall a conversation maybe a couple 571 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:35,520 years ago where the number of events and gallas and everything else was growing 572 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:40,319 to the point where it was hard for the arts and culture board officially to 573 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,599 pick and choose favorites. >> Got it. 574 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,440 » We didn't fill our table last time last year. 575 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,119 » And we didn't fill our table last year either. So yeah, thanks Jimmy. I forgot 576 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,960 about that. But you're right. That was the conversation. It's busy keeping the 577 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,839 check. >> That's all I had. Thank you. 578 00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:02,955 » I don't know. I know I've been to stuff, but I can't think of anything [laughter] 579 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:06,000 right now. I I feel pressure, but no. [clears throat] 580 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:13,920 » I do have a quick quick one. >> Um, our our Q3 culture and arts partners 581 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:18,160 group meeting is August 12th, Wednesday. For all of us working folks, it's hard 582 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:20,720 because it's breakfast 8 to 10. But if you can't make it, it's at the museum. 583 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,260 Thank you for hosting us >> at the library. 584 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,680 » I'm at the library. That's what I meant. [laughter] 585 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:30,160 » I heard what she meant what she said. >> They're in walking distance. If you mess 586 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:34,000 up the time, [laughter] >> you'll find your way. It's fine. 587 00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:37,520 » It's a quick. >> And if you haven't yet, um, make sure 588 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,839 you sign the card for Kate. She's not here tonight. 589 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:45,119 » I got stuck with [laughter] you at the end of the line. 590 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:56,640 Um yeah, same. Uh I've been watching way too much um boys soccer and watching the 591 00:44:52,960 --> 00:45:01,680 art form of the flop. [laughter] >> So really there are dramatic classes for 592 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:07,839 that [laughter] and um they're way too good at it. So, 593 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,880 you know, [laughter] >> go retire 594 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:20,640 go >> play with the um NBA also. [laughter] 595 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:25,200 » Um my thing is in Denver, not Littleton, but I'm teaching it, so it feels 596 00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:31,280 applicable. But [laughter] um I'm doing a workshop at a craft cafe called Good 597 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:35,680 Practice in Jefferson Park um in on August 22nd. 598 00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:41,359 Might be the 23rd. It's that Saturday. Um, but I am the editor of a newspaper 599 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:44,640 full of good news and we're going to use the newspapers to make a blackout and 600 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000 collage poetry. So >> Oh, fun. 601 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:46,960 » If you're interested. >> Very cool. 602 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,960 » Yeah. >> Cool. 603 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,040 » And to you, Tim. >> Oh, well, I was going to say, as some 604 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,920 some of you guys have noted, I was at the block party. Um, JD recommended me a 605 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,760 few months ago to help the LDDS choose the live entertainment. So I helped 606 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,760 choose the seven bands with a couple other people from there and then as we 607 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:12,702 all know as board members loves free labor. So they promoted me to [laughter] 608 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:20,000 » I was down there for eight hours two hours for chaos. 609 00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:23,440 » Very yeah I don't know why they they didn't start loading people in until two 610 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:26,720 hours before the event and that was not enough time. 611 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:30,720 » So and I had a volunteer shirt and a walkie-talkie. So the number of people 612 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,040 running up to me saying what do I do? what do I do? And I'm like, he didn't 613 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,920 train me. He gave me a walkie-talkie on the street. Yeah. 614 00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:41,280 » But it all worked out fine. We had one power outage with that 80s band right 615 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:45,200 before they were going to end one of their sets, so it wasn't a big deal. And 616 00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:49,040 then everything else went on without a hitch, so it was it was great. It was a 617 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:54,567 lot of fun. It was exhausting, but it was a lot of fun. You got a shirt and a 618 00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:57,760 walk. I WAS [laughter] like two shifts of 619 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,560 volunteers, and the second one just never showed up. Three people were just 620 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,760 not there. But by then everything was kind of flowing. 621 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:10,240 » One of them kept texting me [laughter] first. They told us to do a group chat 622 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,640 and then like I did to the second group and one of the three people who were 623 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:20,880 signed up immediately texted stop. And I'm like [laughter] okay 624 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,640 not spam text but okay. And then another one kept texting saying I'm here. I'm 625 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,440 here. And I'm like I'm right behind town hall. I'm waiting for you in the alley. 626 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:31,440 Never show up. >> Wow. So, but it was okay by then. It was 627 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,480 a lot [laughter] of fun. And also, >> oh, thank you. And I think uh we're 628 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,839 probably going to check out Illuminate Little Pin in a couple see what that's 629 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440 about because that's a brand new one, right? 630 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,839 » Yeah. First year. >> Um but I'm not volunteering. I'm not 631 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,720 working. [laughter] I'll be there 10 minutes and then I'm 632 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,988 out. >> So, anybody that needs help [laughter] 633 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,079 loves to volunteer. >> We'll have a drink. Well, [laughter] 634 00:47:53,599 --> 00:48:00,800 » perfect. This time I can't. Well, I don't have much, but I do want to say um 635 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:06,160 the library has some cool adult programs to go to as well. So, there's some art 636 00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:09,119 focused on if you want to go get crafty um and go do some of those. And I also 637 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,200 really appreciate that you allow the adults an extra month to read. Thank you 638 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,640 very much. Because I haven't been able to read as much lately as I wanted to. 639 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,880 » Parents are busy in the summer. >> They are busy. But if you It's a bingo 640 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:24,559 card. So, if you are an adult reader, it is really cool because it's a bingo card 641 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:29,119 and then you get entered into a drawing and if you get a blackout, you get five 642 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:33,040 extra five extra, I think, um, entries into the drawing. But, it's cool because 643 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:36,640 they actually put out books and videos that go along with all of the boxes on 644 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,023 your bingo card. They make it super easy. So, if you need a book with a 645 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:43,040 flower, they have a display with books [laughter] with flowers on them. I am so 646 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,880 impressed. They do a great job. So, I just wanted to plug um that because I 647 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,640 have been really enjoying that this summer. Um, and that's all I have. 648 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:55,599 How about you? >> Um, 649 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:59,280 recalling that we didn't meet in June, figuring out everything I've done for 650 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:04,240 the last two months is a lot, but I stopped trying. Um, but it was end of 651 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:10,240 the season for everybody. So, Avenue Q, Symphony Orchestra, Voices West. Um, and 652 00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:14,559 then July 4th season, Hudson Gardens did a great job. If I don't know if anyone 653 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:18,640 else was there, but 3,500 people I think is what they figured. Was that red, 654 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,960 white, red, white, and you? >> Red, white, and I forget. Red, white, 655 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,880 and rock. >> White and rock, I think. 656 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:27,894 » Yeah, white and rock. >> It's hard to It's a lot of 657 00:49:25,874 --> 00:49:27,894 [laughter] 658 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:34,640 » um and then a lot of kids theater, my daughter's in shows, and I forget when 659 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,559 the ballet was, if that was before or after our May meeting, but I went to 660 00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:41,760 that. >> That was after. Yeah. Um, and now just 661 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:46,079 gearing up for the launch of September and the kickoff of the new seasons. I 662 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:51,680 will say that uh Katie and I have been working uh with Alexandria and the 663 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:56,400 Illuminate event to host a walking an art walk 664 00:49:53,040 --> 00:50:01,960 » where different artists will be featured in stores throughout downtown. 665 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,960 » So 666 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,800 » that's cool, too. >> Are they going to be creating or just 667 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:08,400 presenting their work? >> Just presenting. 668 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:12,640 » Cool, though. That's I neglected to mention the boards and commissions 669 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:15,054 dinner was really great. It >> is [laughter] 670 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:20,400 » and we definitely were the best. 671 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,960 » We are the best. >> Please. 672 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:27,444 » Yeah. [laughter] >> Showed up and demonstrated very well. We 673 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,559 may not be invited back. >> [laughter] 674 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:34,650 » Mike was nothing but enthusiastic about how the the arts and culture board set 675 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,079 the tone for the entire evening [laughter] and set the bar too high for 676 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:43,599 any other board to uh >> they were all so shy to stand up. I was 677 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:48,405 like come on. [laughter] >> You guys definitely if there would have 678 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:53,200 taken [clears throat] 679 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:59,280 well you guys thank you. This is >> 7 680 00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:03,599 21 officially. Um, we will go ahead and adjourn. I appreciate all of you. Get 681 00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:08,400 all of your stuff ready for next month and five o'clock next month. Don't 682 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:12,720 forget it's an early start time. >> Thank you everyone. 683 00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:12,720 » Thank you.