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[0:11] I'm calling the meeting to the voter of the LILTS and Historical Commission, September 9th at
[0:18] 7.04.
[0:24] I think the first thing, well, first thing we should probably talk about is the historic markers,
[0:29] that's the most timely issue.
[0:34] Andrew, have you contacted Swenson or no? Yes. So the update that I
[0:41] have received is sorry for the delay in response. Oh, that's what they said. This order is currently
[0:50] being reported as late. I need to reach out for more information and I'll get back to. Okay.
[0:57] That was today or yet. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Bad. I guess they don't know how later. That is the assessment
[1:05] based on this email. So I'll continue to monitor. But yes, it was actually due on Tuesday
[1:15] the 7th was when we told we'd get initial. Okay, the first there's the prep time for
[1:23] the order. So they told us that they would be manufacturing ready by the 7th but then
[1:31] it would be the next step which is DPW agreed upon delivery so we were still I think yeah we're
[1:42] just a couple of days behind where we thought we would be and I did not hear anything with the
[1:49] DPW so I suspect they're also just waiting and that we don't jump in if you could type that
[1:56] I think you can definitely know what that is.
[1:58] I did. I got nothing from them.
[2:00] Why is I asked if they knew anything?
[2:03] Because for all I know, you know, the order might have been ready,
[2:08] and they contacted the DPW and the DPW said,
[2:11] you know, oh yeah, we're available, we'll deliver it right,
[2:13] and it could have all been like, sitting at the DPW.
[2:15] So, it is not yet prepared.
[2:19] DPW should have said, come out now, or wait,
[2:23] and something ordered. Wait.
[2:24] So according to, I forget his name, Jeanette Jeanette.
[2:30] Steve.
[2:32] Steve.
[2:33] Jenny.
[2:35] Yeah, I know.
[2:35] And that's it.
[2:36] Youngly.
[2:37] Youngly.
[2:39] They want to handle that because it's only good value for a period of time.
[2:43] Got it.
[2:44] So when they take the delivery of the pieces, then he's going to put it on that work calendar.
[2:52] and then they will call it big safe. I think you said seven days before it appears
[2:58] on their calendar because it's only good for 7 to 10 days. Okay, good, thank you for all that.
[3:06] Hi Rachel. Yes, we just started.
[3:11] Yeah, so that's the update. I do have to do is, it sounds like
[3:16] we're a go. Thank you for reaching out to conservation. Oh yeah. So we got sign off on the location.
[3:23] Yeah, so the Conservation Commission said we can put it in the location where we want it yet three different locations on the site with
[3:32] And they said our preferred location our first choice is fine. So that's great. It's good. Awesome. Yeah, I put a white stake out there
[3:41] So it's wonderful to theoretically we can say for the deep and w
[3:47] Put it with a white stake is and then the other one
[3:50] I think we're fine. We just tell them to put it where the cement thing is. They're
[3:55] that current one. So we came by and caught the grass. I don't know if you saw that or not.
[4:01] Yes, you can actually see it again. That was cool. It was awesome, even though
[4:05] there's really nothing to see. Yeah. But we get the new one there.
[4:13] Potentially, maybe I'll head out with some life plans, be a fabric and crush them or something
[4:17] don't put it in front there, so that just doesn't,
[4:20] I actually, we should ask the DPW to leave a little crush
[4:24] down in front, be really good.
[4:28] Yeah, no, that's good.
[4:29] And someone mentioned maybe having flowers or something.
[4:33] Yeah.
[4:34] Why do you spend the next day, the one by...
[4:37] The Godkill.
[4:38] The one by your house.
[4:41] Oh, the corner here, there's like a little garden bed.
[4:45] Yeah, it looks really nice.
[4:46] How should I do this?
[4:47] Spear of love.
[4:49] You think what I've seen somebody doing it is on point.
[4:52] The girls on the day, are there a garden?
[4:56] There's a little garden.
[4:57] There was a thing.
[4:58] Me.
[4:59] I thought you were doing it.
[5:01] Yeah.
[5:02] People are looking to do stuff that would be kind of cool.
[5:05] So, all right, that's the update on that project.
[5:08] That's great.
[5:09] So things are moving forward.
[5:10] We're just in the lay mode.
[5:12] But good.
[5:13] So
[5:17] one just one question I had about, you know, like when we worked with the Girl Scouts
[5:23] in the future on some of these plaques and stuff, maybe I mentioned this last time.
[5:30] But
[5:33] separately, I think we talked about maybe having some sort of historic tour map of
[5:38] the town with some of these sites, some of these markers, maybe other sites.
[5:43] I don't know if that's something the Girl Scouts might be interested in working as part
[5:48] of this sort of integrated, but microdice.
[5:53] Yeah, I do.
[5:54] I think it's great again.
[5:56] You know what would be really cool is I think Rachel mentioned that you can get to GPS locations.
[6:04] Yeah,
[6:07] you should be able to.
[6:08] Especially like I think Google Maps, you can sell it and make a Google app and actually drop in.
[6:13] Yeah.
[6:13] Well, Jason.
[6:14] Yeah.
[6:14] It would be a good Eagle Scout project too.
[6:17] It would be a really good year for yourself.
[6:19] It was Soraka who was the one that brought the Eagle Scout with the great markers and
[6:28] I'm looking for something to do.
[6:31] Right.
[6:33] Anything else on the markers?
[6:39] Okay.
[6:39] Then I think we should next talk about the preservation restriction for the orchard house.
[6:47] I don't know whether you will.
[6:48] Well, I think I can see if this works.
[6:53] Loaded on to the screen, assuming that I did this correctly.
[7:02] Did people get a chance to look at it?
[7:04] I know it's long.
[7:06] Yes.
[7:06] I think we look at it.
[7:08] Oh, so it's not working?
[7:09] Why not?
[7:10] I have to switch the video supply.
[7:13] I'm putting it on your thinkpad.
[7:15] The plug?
[7:16] The plug?
[7:16] I think the plug from the.
[7:18] Oh, I have to do that.
[7:19] Yes?
[7:19] The HDMI?
[7:20] Yeah.
[7:21] And then just put your think that that part I didn't know and it will work that perfect really because they said I just
[7:27] Make it okay, whatever
[7:29] I had to make myself a participant
[7:32] So
[7:36] this the right is we will show up. No. Oh, how about that? Okay? All right. Let's see
[7:51] Well, the video will show it on the screen.
[7:57] Talking and it's right behind you.
[8:01] Yeah, I don't think it matters if it's not on the screen for the video to you.
[8:13] I'm just going to become public record, right, when it's filed so it'll be in the public domain.
[8:21] So this is, we'll call it a draft, it's close to final I think, but especially if it's
[8:28] going public record, we'll call it a draft.
[8:33] So as I mentioned previously, the
[8:39] prospective buyer but the language was okay, which is
[8:44] really important.
[8:49] Mark Matthew Nerdhouse is continuing to work on this project. He thought
[8:57] that language was okay. Mark Brownbacher, select board member, thinks it's okay except
[9:05] for his one question. He had two questions. One was for the town council, but it's kind
[9:11] minor. But the main question was, do we want to protect the whole house or just the original
[9:21] footprint? And if we only want to, if we want to protect the whole house, does the new,
[9:26] do the new additions have different requirements than the original footprint?
[9:35] So I think a good
[9:38] place to start might be to look at the photos.
[9:54] So
[10:02] this is the main house. This is the connector.
[10:13] And this is the East Edition. Okay. And then there's some more pictures of them.
[10:24] main house connector East Edition and
[10:34] this is the main house and mostly the East
[10:38] Edition.
[10:48] East Edition to be find at the main house, East
[10:57] Edition, I
[11:06] guess this is
[11:07] the connector and the main house
[11:16] house.
[11:19] That's it for the photos. So what are your
[11:25] thoughts on this issue?
[11:33] Why would the addition not be included?
[11:41] I guess the first question is, are they as historically significant as the main house?
[11:47] I can't remember if they were added or what date they were added, most being here.
[12:02] So the house itself dates to around 1922, 1923.
[12:09] The Eastern Edition is 1965 to 1978,
[12:18] so that's one reason, I guess.
[12:26] So, today, right, this reason?
[12:29] This presentation?
[12:30] Yeah.
[12:31] Yeah, we've been working on it.
[12:33] Shanty Art Consultant, and I worked on it for a past couple of years or so.
[12:37] So, I was going to say it seems very clear the name.
[12:40] Right, but yeah, well, when we wrote it, we thought, yes, it wasn't even a question for us.
[12:45] but this is a question that Marcus raised, so I think we should discuss it.
[13:17] All right. Well, if I was shunting, which I'm not, I think the question that you would raise
[13:24] would be historic fabric. And at least the addition, while more modern, was built to resemble the
[13:35] existing structure. So if you don't protect it and you were to to graze it and put, I don't
[13:46] know, a Frank Lloyd Wright style edition, I think we'd all say we made the wrong decision.
[13:54] So, I mean, that's his devil advocacy, and it's Ross' form, so if the purchaser of
[14:06] said property has reviewed this and is comfortable with it,
[14:16] I'd say we're not, but
[14:18] that's what I'm just going out there on the line.
[14:21] No, that's a reasonable rationale.
[14:24] I mean, it is specific that any new construction has to be in keeping us with the house, but
[14:31] so in theory, that would cover the any framework, right, caveats, but...
[14:36] Well, I think, though, as it is now, yes, but I think the question was, if you were to
[14:43] not include it, and you rolled it out of this document, that you would be releasing that
[14:48] sure. I think it's all the safer to keep it in.
[15:00] It's a different story, but it kind of fits with the stack of the ordinary house. And
[15:10] that was my thought to it. The architecture of the additions matched the original. I think that's done our purpose. And. Yeah. And also said that major alterations are allowed, right? They were just happy to get permission. So if for some reason they wanted to get rid of this addition. Right. They could propose that. And then that can be taken on a case by case basis. Yeah.
[15:34] Yeah, and I think that it was a request in front of us of modifying that, I mean, less
[15:44] critical, right?
[15:45] Because it would be.
[15:49] And they have to show us their plans.
[15:52] Yeah.
[15:52] Yeah.
[15:53] We're still going to ask what you have to say and what happened, so I feel like you don't
[16:00] want to go to the right on the road.
[16:01] I'm like, well, it could be this.
[16:02] I could, you know, like, I think this just covers all the bases.
[16:05] Right.
[16:05] Yeah a bit right it's there's definitely a don't want to assume the worst I mean
[16:13] yeah nature that we're coverage but also not kind of automatically goes to the worst case scenario and
[16:22] like so does that mean you you are more flexible about the newer additions I mean we have to see
[16:31] what they propose I think we can't like just in good faith or and we have to be in good faith like
[16:37] we can't just assume that anything that gets brought to us is on that. It can be that.
[16:41] No, right. But the question is, do we keep the additions as part of this original protection?
[16:48] Yeah, I mean, we look at the drop-ins and rug, I mean, the bar, we'd always consider that
[16:53] to be just as important as not, you know, that was, I guess, we do early, always considering
[17:00] barns is completely our curvy I guess is that like we we consider barn to be
[17:06] just as important as a house so I would I would put this into league the barn
[17:10] category so I think you raised an important point which just reminded me of
[17:15] something yeah so when we went through that transaction you may remember that this
[17:21] legboard challenged us on was the restriction on the house or on the house and
[17:27] land, right? And we felt it was the entire parcel, right? But then the psych ward overruled
[17:34] us, and now there's apartments out back. So that's a big more on the point, not just leaving
[17:41] it in there. Yeah. Give it under protection with more latitude should there be a modification.
[17:51] Yeah.
[17:53] It says like we're in Greenland, Donna, and he thought, and you have to agree with everything
[17:58] that you're saying.
[18:01] How much land is with the property?
[18:04] I think with the house, I think it's five acres.
[18:08] One out of 11.7.
[18:12] But the land is in covered.
[18:16] Let's see.
[18:18] 4.25.
[18:21] Let's see.
[18:21] Lot 104 is 9.21 acres. Oh, we would know. No, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what it is. So this
[18:28] house is on lot 104 9.21 acres is under an agricultural preservation risk. And it needs
[18:36] a vestibit 1.17 acres for the house. Okay. So it's really not enough to put a bunch of
[18:42] No, that's good question. He never knows, but they'll try to put it into you up instead.
[18:52] Yeah, so it's just one point one, seven angels for the house lot.
[18:58] One point one, then I wasn't on the throttle in the anchor.
[19:02] Yeah, I don't remember what it was.
[19:03] Yeah, no, it wasn't that way.
[19:05] I don't know.
[19:06] Yeah, unrestricted 3.04, oh, which one kind of thing.
[19:12] Where are you?
[19:13] The land on the house lot, okay.
[19:16] Okay, thank you.
[19:19] And, you know, I think we should keep in mind that the perspective buyer is the person who is currently leasing the land,
[19:28] and he wants to continue to do his container farming there and I'm not I know for sure, but my
[19:37] understanding is that either he and or his workers might live in the house.
[19:44] Okay, so there's 12.25
[19:48] acres on Lot 104. 9.21 is the agricultural restriction which
[20:01] leads you with an
[20:04] and restricted lot of 304 of which 1.17 is the house lock. So it does look like
[20:14] you actually have three acres of land that's in unrestricted so yes you have
[20:22] enough room to build an attached condo. So I don't know why it's not written that
[20:30] way but I hear what you're saying. Well that's just how I'm reading it. So my first
[20:36] saw, the map, and then... Oh wait, oh that's how it reads in additional
[20:41] I'm sorry, it's there. I just took the trip to Alfred. Oh, I see. Yeah, so what actually
[20:48] to Carolina's point, it's that red guy would say.
[20:56] So,
[20:58] do we know which way it goes? Does
[20:59] it go down the hill into that field? Or does it go? Well, I don't think it's down the hill
[21:05] from it. I don't think the map was differentiated at all. I think it was just outlined on the
[21:12] basic man. Some pays like 38 or something.
[21:28] Let me just make myself a note that that's extra land is there.
[21:31] Yeah,
[21:34] I don't know if you can do anything about that in this restriction.
[21:38] This is a restriction for the house.
[21:45] Actually, is it though?
[21:49] Because you have it in the warehouse for the lot.
[21:53] I think it said lot and structures is what I thought
[21:56] said. If you go up high up and it was in the very first this part or more. Yeah, yeah. Maybe
[22:06] you're going. We're as owner of certain real estate and improvements known as Lager's Hill
[22:14] Orchard, Locke and Wounds of Massachusetts. More, particularly described, and we're taking
[22:22] dated March 7, 2000, recorded everybody by reference. The orchard has comprised of several parcels
[22:31] in land, including 0.25 acres as lot 104.
[22:40] So I think, yes, 104 is comprised of the acres, okay.
[22:46] So I think it's inclusive. Well, then maybe we should be specific of that.
[22:54] say something about that? I don't know.
[22:57] All right, what's the next one around? On page 2.
[23:09] So the rest of this is all about the house.
[23:11] But we could say, if we want, I guess we could say something about that land.
[23:21] Wouldn't they have to get a permit to build it in any way?
[23:24] Yeah.
[23:25] And wouldn't that go through a process?
[23:28] All of this would be considered? I've never done it, so I don't know.
[23:31] Well, yeah, but if this case is, it only includes a house that's protected our first
[23:39] patient should see the way it's written.
[23:43] Uh, would any, or in this, this parcel, or sorry, this letter, I wouldn't be, wouldn't
[23:49] fall under any other conservation constrict, like anything else, not this particular area,
[23:56] some other portion of it.
[23:58] There's under the agriculture but not.
[23:59] No, no, but there's another, there is a conservation area outside of the agricultural
[24:03] transportation.
[24:05] It's not on this lot.
[24:06] Yeah.
[24:07] As long as you know, we're not trying to like put a restriction on filming any 70-year-old
[24:12] another group.
[24:12] Right.
[24:12] And townhouses.
[24:13] Not on this one.
[24:16] Even others.
[24:17] It's whole being here.
[24:18] Yeah.
[24:19] A lot of different restrictions than it went back.
[24:21] Well, that's the difference between this and Robinson, I mean Robinson Road was such a small
[24:26] It would have been much more of a difference if one with two acres, he builds a couple other houses or another structure.
[24:36] It's in section 3.4.
[24:39] No, it's in.
[24:41] Granger agrees that any new constructions exterior that has four construction of new buildings and structures on the house lot.
[24:48] Shall preserve historic materials, features, and spatial relationships that characterize the house.
[24:53] So you did good. Good for you. 3.2? 3.4? 3.4. Well, good that you saw that.
[25:12] 3.2. They have to give, you know, all kinds of information and time table and everything.
[25:16] 45 days before it starts. It's 3.4. It's 3.4? No. Yes.
[25:29] You're still at the top, and then it's paid on its pay.
[25:32] No matches when I search for 3.4.
[25:35] Oh, oh, oh, oh,
[25:40] oh.
[25:40] But I can't.
[25:41] 3.1.
[25:44] 3.1.
[25:46] Yeah, 3.3.
[25:47] Yeah, 3.3.
[25:48] Yeah, 3.3.
[25:50] 3.4 is clock.
[25:52] So 3.3.
[25:53] Okay.
[25:54] That's right.
[25:55] That's right.
[25:56] You can start with 3.4.
[25:58] Really?
[25:59] maybe something got changed? Does the 3.4 say new construction in New York?
[26:03] I'm looking at the one you sent today. Unless this is...
[26:07] Oh gosh, am I looking at a different one?
[26:10] I'm not crazy, right? That doesn't do it much more.
[26:13] That absolutely says 3.4. I would worry about it too much, but I will try it.
[26:17] It is new construction. In this eye shadow.
[26:18] New construction. I just have it 3.4.
[26:20] I don't know. We'll have to. Maybe you should send me yours.
[26:23] It's the only one. I mean, I...
[26:24] No, I know. I just want to compare the two versions.
[26:26] Just make sure I've not since screwed up between them.
[26:29] I've not lost a whole.
[26:31] When you said yesterday, yeah, that's fine.
[26:34] I mean I'm just hoping you could say what you could.
[26:36] But apparently, yeah, it'll take a while.
[26:38] Right, but her says 3.4.
[26:40] That's what I did.
[26:40] Did you open it?
[26:41] And my query?
[26:42] In Word?
[26:43] I'm using it in the Google preview.
[26:44] Oh, okay, so it's based on difference.
[26:47] On earth?
[26:47] Yeah, I'm in the big detail.
[26:49] I don't know, but I've heard that when you open it in Google versus Word, it can be different.
[26:54] Yeah.
[26:55] You know, it's a space, it's a living room.
[26:56] That's a good beard, if so.
[26:58] That makes me question everything.
[27:00] I know, you're going to have a crisis now.
[27:02] No, I was just reading any new construction
[27:04] to the exterior of the house,
[27:06] or construction of new buildings and structures.
[27:08] It's a comic lab.
[27:10] And I opened it.
[27:11] Isn't that a beard?
[27:13] Yeah, that has everything.
[27:14] There's a plaque about that.
[27:16] So, I think we're covered because,
[27:21] from what Elizabeth found,
[27:22] right this paragraph so we're okay right okay so I think Carolyn did you have any
[27:31] no that's fine I mean he'd be able to build but at least we have some say on what
[27:36] it looks like so it sounds like there's a consensus that we do want to include the
[27:43] additions the whatever they call the connector and the east edition to be
[27:49] covered as well as your okay. Well written document. Very thorough. Mostly Sean
[27:58] team. 65 pages though. It's not a reader. Okay. What? Nothing. No. I'm not going to tell you how many
[28:13] Okay, good. Well, that was good. That's all right. Yeah. So, uh, do you need a vote?
[28:22] Yeah, I think we, yes, I think we can vote. Because I feel like, uh, I think I mentioned this before,
[28:27] I think I should abstain. Oh, because you're in a position. Yeah. Okay. Do I have a motion
[28:34] for anyone.
[28:40] I think a motion that we have includes the connector and the east
[28:48] addition in the preservation restriction at the same level as the main house.
[28:56] So do I have a second? Second. All in favor? I abstain. One. Okay. Good. You have to vote
[29:09] I think we should make it totally final, which means, yeah, just in drop.
[29:20] What if you received a motion that the board authorizes you to continue to advance to
[29:27] the organization that way when you get there?
[29:30] I don't have to come back.
[29:31] That's right.
[29:33] If people feel comfortable with it at this point, I mean, I personally do because it's pretty much almost done.
[29:42] Do I have a motion?
[29:49] So look, yeah, bird, zoom on through that.
[29:55] So just set it, right?
[30:00] Any way, as it was for me, you were saying? Well, no, not just to let me, Linda, handle it.
[30:06] She had to finalize from this point forward, right? One with town council, and...
[30:11] Through town council, many town councils.
[30:14] And that's only really, I mean, I feel like we're in about, you know, I know, but we, yeah.
[30:19] But that way, I don't have to come back and have to final approve here, okay, I guess, right?
[30:26] you see this kind of stuff in boards of trustees all the time right where you're
[30:30] delegating to someone to sign on the on the behalf of the company or
[30:36] organization or for right so I'm just proposing it so that you know if it
[30:42] gets to the 11th hour and it's Linda and Tom council and it can be done right
[30:49] and doesn't there's no question that it wasn't approved by the group make
[31:01] and the deconotion to allow the design to finalize document with term counsel.
[31:08] Finalized document on the American Council.
[31:10] On behalf of the little DAB Virgo Commission.
[31:13] Dr. Second.
[31:13] Second.
[31:14] On favor.
[31:15] I will do the same thing.
[31:19] Okay.
[31:19] No, there's this thing.
[31:20] It's going to be voted on those.
[31:22] All right.
[31:25] So I wanted to bring up the fact that we're supposed to do an annual inspection to make sure
[31:35] that they're complying with our preservation restriction.
[31:39] We didn't do an official one.
[31:41] We were supposed to do it in July of this year.
[31:44] We didn't do it.
[31:45] But I don't think that's terrible because we had that informational meeting with them last October.
[31:51] October. So I proposed that we changed the date to October, which would be a year after we were
[32:00] there last time, and then every October we would do an inspection there. So that sound like
[32:06] good idea. Yes. All right. And there should be more than one of us to go do the inspection.
[32:14] I'm willing to do it. Is anyone else interested in doing that? I asked for a follow-up question.
[32:19] Yeah.
[32:19] We'll shot TV there.
[32:21] If so.
[32:22] Or somebody like Sean.
[32:23] Well, there wasn't going to be.
[32:26] Let me show you what she developed, though, for us.
[32:29] We may wonder that we may not need her because she developed a form which I'm going to put
[32:35] up here,
[32:46] this inspection report.
[32:48] So it's 13 pages and she used this kind of thing for other places and she's developed
[33:00] It has all the features that protected features that she wrote out.
[33:10] All the protected features are in this left-hand column and then second column is our observations
[33:17] when we go on the inspection.
[33:24] So these are the features that come out of the preservation.
[33:26] She called them from the Preservation Restriction
[33:29] for Club Robinson Road.
[33:39] So I don't know why so many, oh, I see.
[33:42] So the actual form is four pages,
[33:45] but beyond that, our photographs,
[33:53] that's it.
[33:54] So it's really just four pages, plus focus.
[33:58] So I mean, if you want, you can move
[34:00] some of more of what she says here.
[34:04] What happens to the document after you do it?
[34:08] Does that go somewhere?
[34:10] We should, well, do we, we should find out where it should go, whether it's just filed with our towns, somewhere or whether it's with the mass historical commission, maybe because they signed off on it.
[34:21] So that's a good question, actually.
[34:23] It's a very good question.
[34:25] My next question is if we don't have Sean to you there.
[34:28] Yeah.
[34:30] Where do the fees that the owners pay for the inspection go?
[34:34] So I think when we propose it, right, that we charge the fee so that we could have somebody
[34:43] like a shanty to do it, right, and then the problem is that we're just passing the expenses
[34:51] of the experts through, right?
[34:55] So that's a good question.
[34:59] If two of us do it, I mean...
[35:01] Well, we could wait the fee.
[35:03] We decide not to have her there,
[35:06] or I could see if she's available.
[35:08] Don't know.
[35:09] Yeah.
[35:10] What do you guys think?
[35:12] Yeah.
[35:16] I think to start, it would probably be good to have Shondi
[35:20] just to, like, kind of go through the, you know,
[35:23] I don't want to be trained as to how to do it, but, you know,
[35:28] it's great that she's got the, you know, the document,
[35:31] I think that's super helpful.
[35:32] um the one hurt to have a couple of like run-throughs with her before yeah she kind of ran through it
[35:40] not very detailed when we had that informational meeting there um but because we walked into a wall
[35:47] yeah we walked yeah we didn't get the the yeah yeah yeah no I think that's good it has everyone else
[35:53] feels should I ask if she's held a lot of this I would say yes if she's available and is willing
[36:01] to do exactly that. I'm going to do it and we agree, like, you know,
[36:06] home around home, meet her there. I'm happy to do that. And I just, you know,
[36:11] you know, absorb her knowledge as she goes through it.
[36:15] I think we do, you know, a couple of us see there and you know, kind of watch her go
[36:19] single emotion, but, you know, like, watch, watch the, watch how it unfolds and, you know,
[36:26] what is she looking for? But, you know, again, I think that doctor is great to have
[36:31] with all that and I think going through the exercise with her at least at a minimum once would be good and then, you know.
[36:41] I agree, I'm looking at those things right down in the order of Perlin's and I don't know where they,
[36:46] uh, Gert is.
[36:48] So that would be nice to be.
[36:53] Okay, good. All right. I imagine she'll be in a little sometime in October, so NEM will coordinate it with everybody.
[37:03] I think about, you know, if we can set a...
[37:08] We went in there before people that moved in, but the kind of set a start level.
[37:16] Yeah, I'm trying to do that.
[37:16] So we did go there. I don't know.
[37:18] Oh, no, no, no. I think I do that.
[37:20] that one. We did an informational one when people were there. Yeah and it was an interesting meeting.
[37:28] Yes. Leave it at that. Yeah. They were very different reactions from both sides. So anyway,
[37:37] I think it would be good though to do it again with her. Yeah. I would say that if she's not available
[37:43] We are not willing. I think we can figure it out, but it would be I think huge to have her
[37:49] issues. Yeah. Okay. And then I don't remember what the fees are, but
[37:56] yes, we would just ask whatever the fee to first person. All right. That was good. Is this
[38:08] just because I wasn't involved in this last year, I just started is a preservation restriction
[38:14] inspection something that is done for like any free that the inspection. I mean that all
[38:19] reservation restrictions play sound like yes in perpetuity. Yes. So in theory this would be done
[38:26] for the forever orchard house as well. Yes. So how many other houses are there that we check up on?
[38:35] That's it for now.
[38:38] We love to have more in the future.
[38:41] Are there interior items to the working house, or is that just the exterior?
[38:45] I think it's just the exterior because if you recall the interior had a mold problem,
[38:51] and I never died inside at that point, so we didn't even go in.
[38:58] And they're going to cut it because of the mold problem problem, you know, anyway.
[39:02] way. So that's an easier way. Yeah, that one's easier. This one is easier too. Remember
[39:09] Shanti was saying that the structures are all hidden because of this extensive renovation.
[39:18] Would it be handy for this type of thing too? Because like this is forever. Like we're not
[39:23] all going to be here and however many years like to maybe all you didn't hear.
[39:30] I'm dead. I want them to all run into the photo and I know what this is.
[39:34] Well, later time for a minute, we'll let you retire at 6, 6, 7, 8, but yeah.
[39:43] What a big sense to put like, to take photos over there or ask,
[39:47] That's the move on.
[39:48] We did take photos of the Pacific, for example, and that way, you know, in the deer's, it's
[39:56] like, yes.
[39:57] We don't need it, like, set a base level of what it, you know, so it's not just, you know,
[40:02] written observations.
[40:03] Like, yeah, that's a good idea.
[40:08] You're over here, like, information that we can go back and, right, do the Perlins look different.
[40:15] Right. But also, like, whatever, like, these are just like, you know, these virulans look different than they did last year.
[40:24] I mean, they look gross.
[40:26] I mean, they look gross.
[40:28] Virulans look like this.
[40:32] Yeah.
[40:33] I'm afraid we have a virulans.
[40:35] Yeah,
[40:38] but that's good.
[40:39] Good.
[40:39] Okay.
[40:40] Well, I think that is a horrible thing. That's why there's that whole five pages and photos.
[40:47] Yeah, yeah.
[40:48] You have to get it all down.
[40:51] The horizontal beam, the length of the roof, resting on a main raptor, and providing a common raptor's reports.
[40:57] Well, there you go.
[40:59] Oh, good. Thank you.
[41:03] Well, I'll be right back.
[41:05] I'll see your curlings are efficient.
[41:08] Definitely not believe another friend.
[41:10] We get totally better than my pressure.
[41:12] Your furlund was longer.
[41:14] That's how did you shorten your furlund?
[41:20] Okay.
[41:21] No.
[41:22] But I do recall she was saying something to the fact that if you scroll through this.
[41:27] I think...
[41:27] Go down?
[41:28] Yeah, there's a whole bunch of stuff in here that...
[41:31] That's it.
[41:31] But yeah, go back up and that that it's all like inside of stuff now
[41:38] Oh, now it's inside it wasn't inside before now it is right so like in the barn you can't actually see the structure of the barn because
[41:47] It's it's off. It's a house
[41:49] So well, anyway, so all of these are good reasons to have her come to help us figure out had him go forward after this right
[42:01] If we're going to go through, right, you're going to, right across the island, right,
[42:05] right.
[42:06] That's if we are willing for, yeah, we don't want to be, yes, right, right, right, you're
[42:14] right, you're right.
[42:15] Spoiler of this one, because it's been recently renovated, so it's unlikely, you know,
[42:21] as long as some of these are mentally intentional alterations, likely going to stay fine for
[42:30] Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I hope so. Yeah. Yeah. Your thoughts on the other hand may be a little bit more work.
[42:39] But it's only the exterior, so be a little different. Yeah. But yeah, it will be a different project. Yeah.
[42:47] Yeah. Okay.
[42:49] Okay, so for the historic preservation awards, I've contacted the select board at least once,
[43:00] negative advice. I've been there back yet.
[43:02] I was supposed to do that thing for you when I forgot to do that.
[43:05] I was going to write one of them.
[43:07] I was going to write one of them.
[43:07] Oh, yeah, you were going to help write one.
[43:09] I'll do that.
[43:10] Yeah, that's like.
[43:11] But since I'll call them tomorrow again, I'll call them tomorrow, try to get it.
[43:17] At least just get a yes from them.
[43:19] Yes, they want to do it at their select board.
[43:21] Yeah, no, just these I know that I can do the work.
[43:25] Yeah, exactly.
[43:26] Go absolutely.
[43:28] But I think if I don't brief them, I'm going to go ahead and contact for a reason, say,
[43:34] we want to do this.
[43:35] We'll probably do this letter of meaning if not, we'll do it here.
[43:38] Whatever.
[43:38] So I don't know so they know.
[43:41] Okay.
[43:43] Just give me a date.
[43:44] Yes.
[43:45] Yeah.
[43:46] Yeah.
[43:46] Definitely.
[43:47] Definitely.
[43:50] So the question is do we want to do all four at once or do we want to do like a rolling thing?
[43:55] What do you think? I'm not sure. I'm going to do all four at once. We want to do all four at once.
[44:00] I don't want to go for it. I'm going to fly for me. No, no. I'm doing two, but I kind of feel like it's okay to do more at once.
[44:07] I don't know. Yeah, um, remind me again. We got John and Jonathan.
[44:12] Not been, not been. That's right. That's right.
[44:16] The preservation restriction, and then we have the...
[44:20] Robins and Robins and Robins and Robins and Robins.
[44:22] Yeah.
[44:23] Yeah.
[44:24] Sorry.
[44:25] Anybody object to that?
[44:27] Do you know what?
[44:32] I'll do that.
[44:33] I'll do that.
[44:34] I'll do it.
[44:34] Read and get wrong.
[44:38] So they don't even know you, because that was contact with them.
[44:41] Yeah.
[44:41] That's right.
[44:41] That's right.
[44:43] Waiting to get her back in the slipper.
[44:44] But anyway, I'm going to go in contact.
[44:47] I was going to say, if you do do two and two, I know how I'd split them.
[44:52] Oh, yeah, members versus.
[44:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[44:59] So we'll see.
[45:00] Let's see how it comes. All right. Then there's two items on here that we pretty much don't need to discuss. The mill building at 410 Great Road, the representative for that, does want to come before us. He was here a few months ago. He does want to come again, but he wants to come when he has more information. So he said, don't contact us. So that's a feature meeting. Any updates on the project?
[45:28] No, he said it's pretty far down the road.
[45:31] Really?
[45:32] Yeah.
[45:32] But I was just noticing the other day at the traffic light, that across the street, the IBM
[45:41] redevelopment, it says like coming in early 2025 and we're now in like late 2026, right?
[45:49] I didn't notice that.
[45:51] Well, I didn't notice that.
[45:53] Yeah.
[45:53] I haven't touched the sign.
[45:55] And I know they've done some holes in stuff over there, but I haven't seen, like, when they
[46:01] tore down that old Chinese food restaurant on the 110 side, but other than that, it's been
[46:09] like...
[46:10] They're doing it in phases.
[46:11] Yeah, I think the general way, the infrastructure, they were saying that you can't see from
[46:15] the road, so they did say that they are working on things, but stuff you can't go and see.
[46:30] Well, they would be, that would be part of the, that would be part of the line.
[46:34] I was wondering if the project just changed the line of like, you know, the point, I guess, that was the T.J. Max, but otherwise, and, you know, the
[46:43] Donlands closing that whole vlog that was close. Yeah, I didn't know that when I told her 15
[46:50] That's it. Yeah, I didn't realize there's an official day thing
[46:54] But these are October 15th or October 31st
[46:59] Nothing. I know. I think it's gonna go empty. I think that whole
[47:04] I've heard a variety like I've heard car leadership. Yeah, it's just like the worst
[47:08] Yeah, that's a less
[47:10] planning board meeting they said no because we passed a bylaw that known the
[47:14] car thing so I guess we've covered backed out what he heard that but
[47:17] Donlands is so closing early because that there was a rumor that they were
[47:21] going to stay open to the end of the year and that's not true.
[47:25] I'm devastated yeah I don't want anything with the American beauty you
[47:31] need extra that's good that's gonna be demolished and Pletal House is gonna go
[47:35] there.
[47:41] So now that you mentioned that I did have a question to this Morgan, the guy who's
[47:46] working at for $5.50 and $4.10. I believe we were told that Title House would face the
[47:53] road, King Street. But when I looked at one of their plans, it looked to me like it may
[47:57] be turned into their common. So I wanted to get an answer from him about that and he said,
[48:03] let me look into it and I'll get back to you on that. I really wanted facing the road, right?
[48:09] I mean, yeah, it's kind of part of the point of preserving it as to how should that
[48:15] has work. Yeah, yeah. I still in a way it has to be moved. But anyway, yeah, I just think it's
[48:23] interesting because when I remember the project, it was so residential, but it was a whole bunch of more
[48:29] commercial right mixed use yeah well that whole IBM redevelopment really on
[48:35] I think that we're gonna take down the IBM bellies and then more recently they're
[48:38] staying but it just seems like in general it sounds kind of hitting the wrong
[48:45] direction and so
[48:49] it's definitely a big open basis to rent yeah I'm not sure
[49:08] are vibes going to make it vibes yeah I don't see many people in the body a lot of people
[49:17] than they hold I can't ever make it there because it's like the classes are just it
[49:22] vibes that I'm not there so I think they I really know a lot of people I know a lot of people
[49:29] are going really I'm still upset whenever the biosaw went out of there that's still I'm just
[49:35] heartbroken over that.
[49:41] So anyway, so we'll put off the mill building until that he can come talk to us.
[49:48] Similarly, for dirty farmhouse, I had this on the agenda because the affordable housing
[49:52] trust was going to come meet with us to talk about, you know, what they would like to do.
[49:58] But they can't, some of them can't make it tonight, so they'll probably come to our next meeting
[50:05] in October.
[50:06] Well, the primary RFP together, yes, and they said they don't know what's going to happen to the house, right?
[50:15] Right, well, we'd yeah, I'm quite aware of that, but yeah, go ahead. Well, what I mean is there anything that
[50:21] We can do? Well, you weren't here last meeting, right? So most of the people on this committee, someone else can talk
[50:28] I don't have to talk, but some of us wouldn't say but most of the people on this
[50:32] commission wanted to have to be saved, they said. So some
[50:40] of the people on
[50:40] affordable housing trust and planning thought might be good idea for the two
[50:46] groups to talk with us and then and I said yeah I think that's a good idea. So
[50:51] they couldn't come tonight but they'll probably come next. I appreciate that
[50:56] willingness to come. Maybe that was great. I think Donna led the search in our last
[51:00] meeting, and I would call it a full of surge on her opinion that the house needs to be
[51:08] saved.
[51:09] Yes.
[51:11] So, that's that for the moment.
[51:16] My only comment was I'm still struck and by the fact that it just doesn't seem to
[51:33] a low-market situation.
[51:37] And that's part of their issue is that, you know, see how it could work.
[51:42] Right?
[51:43] But that's not my issue.
[51:45] Because my job here is to protect historical assets.
[51:48] And so, yeah, I mean, that's where I think we're going to be different.
[51:52] Right.
[51:53] And do you have to sell it as affordable housing?
[51:56] Because of the way it was created?
[51:57] We have to sell it.
[51:58] We have to sell it.
[51:59] We have to sell it.
[51:59] I think that I've thought I heard them say they could.
[52:02] The new owner could separate out the house. I think but this is all stuff we can talk about with them
[52:10] But will a new owner do that, you know, right?
[52:15] It's very I'm interested is there a turkey tree farm
[52:21] Old Moners Association
[52:24] Turkey, sorry, that's what I heard the tree farm. I doubt it. Old Moners systems things. I know several people that live in the development
[52:31] and they never mentioned that.
[52:34] They know that they're going to build a horrible housing
[52:36] at the corner of their property.
[52:38] That's a good question.
[52:41] They don't.
[52:43] I don't think there's nature in there.
[52:45] But I can certainly ask people if there is.
[52:49] I recall, and our third visit of that property,
[52:53] we had quite a few neighbors stopping by when we were there
[52:59] Because they all had an interest in the house being rehabbed, and they drive by it every day.
[53:07] Interesting.
[53:08] Yes.
[53:08] And remember that.
[53:09] That's interesting.
[53:10] You should mention that when we meet with them.
[53:14] I was just googling it because I wasn't here for this item.
[53:17] It looks like they applied for a community preservation fund in February 2025.
[53:24] They're eight? Yeah. Oh, I think I was in trouble. No, I was sure. I think it because they purchased it. They were just
[53:30] DPA money. 50 dollars. They used 50. This is I believe, right? No, this is
[53:36] specifically for historic preservation and they requested I don't know what they
[53:40] were supposed to. 6,481. Was that that that that was from our commission? I think. Yeah,
[53:48] I think that was for Sean D.
[53:53] Oh, that might have been to pay for Sean D to come look at the property.
[53:58] We can look that up.
[54:00] No, I was just curious.
[54:01] I think that's what it was for.
[54:03] Yeah, not a preservation.
[54:04] It was for Sean D to maybe look at that.
[54:06] What was that community preservation application for one day?
[54:09] No, I know.
[54:10] But let's see what it says.
[54:12] You can actually get a question.
[54:13] I can just hear it.
[54:16] Let's see.
[54:25] Yeah, that's for the emphasis for us as far as the same.
[54:28] No, as far as the itself prevents us.
[54:30] It was just for Sean to come and look at the house and develop a
[54:34] draft preservation restriction.
[54:36] However, after that time, the affordable housing trust
[54:40] has pretty much said they don't think it will work to have
[54:43] do before to do historic preservation here.
[54:46] They're consultant that they hired told them they didn't think that was going to work.
[54:51] So this is why we're at where we're at, that is good.
[54:54] Yeah, so I think that the last meeting I was, of course, second to John's incredible
[55:03] search on this topic.
[55:05] But I was right behind her stating that what our commission's responsibility are are different
[55:16] than what this other commission's responsibilities are.
[55:20] And therefore, I think I
[55:26] always still, for example,
[55:27] support a historical deed restriction on this property
[55:32] to its new owner, because it is not my responsibility
[55:37] to turn it into a formal house.
[55:40] It is my responsibility to protect this historic resource,
[55:45] which was in very good condition.
[55:48] until it was allowed to go to neglect and so just you know the owner has to sign
[55:58] it they have to get a presidential search in yep but that should be written into
[56:07] the RFP yeah the historical president should see them are well then because if
[56:13] they just send it and say you can knock this down no questions asked that's a very
[56:17] I mean, the demo delay would have to come through,
[56:19] but that's what he knows.
[56:20] Yeah, so I think we did actually have a question
[56:23] because I don't remember the answer,
[56:25] which was, WarCVA funds used.
[56:30] And if so, what bucket?
[56:33] It was the $50 of affordable housing.
[56:35] Affordable housing, yeah.
[56:37] So, when it comes out of affordable housing,
[56:40] and that implies that you don't sort of get
[56:43] the same requirement to do if it actually came,
[56:46] It's one fun, right? But there's like a percentage air marketing, right? So, so we can verify that in no way
[56:57] The historical fun that designated was never fun. Yeah, the only time we used the CPC was to hire
[57:04] Charity to go look at the house and might have draft preservation district. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and she did an assessment, too, didn't she?
[57:11] Yeah, we had a report from her. Yeah, which I thought was we should dust that off because I thought her report was that it was
[57:18] An excellence fashion and she she recommended saving it I believe
[57:28] So I will listen for the RFP. I feel like I saw it a long time ago, but they have developed a new one
[57:35] Yeah, it sounded like it was getting close. Okay. I would talk to them tomorrow
[57:45] Okay,
[57:55] and I'll send it to you guys when I get it
[57:58] Yeah, because you should all look at it and comment on it because it sounds like they're
[58:01] going to send out a new one soon, is that what's happening as far as, you know?
[58:05] Yeah, it kind of sounded like that.
[58:09] Okay, so look for that.
[58:11] It will be coming in a probably need a quick turnaround if they're going to send it out soon.
[58:16] Yeah, thank you.
[58:19] We'll jump on it.
[58:23] Okay,
[58:27] so any other member updates?
[58:29] you know what I have is I'm going to oh yeah so you know as we have discussed
[58:37] that sign the wooden sign at the Nagakil Orchard and Bell Trail we discussed
[58:43] new language I saw your edits but if we want if we want to ask the
[58:49] conservation commissioner if they want to do a kias then we might do something
[58:52] a little different and you know you might design something like you did for for
[58:58] for the others, for the brown and the woods.
[59:00] So I think before I work on that more,
[59:02] I'll call the Constellation Commission
[59:04] and see if they're interested in the key ask image, right?
[59:09] Any other member updates?
[59:11] The new one that I have said,
[59:12] you wanted to, you know?
[59:14] Yes, Paul Gleibis,
[59:16] old house, three of me as a commission
[59:18] going to do about this.
[59:20] I mean, this is immediate.
[59:22] This has to be taken care of right away.
[59:24] They have heavy equipment out on the front line
[59:27] of that house. It's one of the oldest houses in Lenten. Certainly, we can do something.
[59:33] I mean, they have a board of party out there. I have a picture to see. Oh, there is a
[59:38] allowing it, and there's nothing we can do about it.
[59:43] What kind of reinfected
[59:45] Ralph House, these house? When? When? Remember, we can't get too old. Yeah.
[59:53] You need an inspection robber in Kostya's house?
[59:56] I'm ready to hit.
[59:57] Hager.
[59:57] She means hit Hager home.
[59:58] So, Hager home's sacred.
[1:00:00] Is this the only duty? What? Would you need to tell me that there is an act as a commission that we can do to protect that house? Oh, my God. Right. We cannot. That's awful. That's awful.
[1:00:21] Well, the only thing we could do, if it's a demolition, if someone files a demolition for a demolition permit, we could do a demolition.
[1:00:29] in the lift, we voted on it.
[1:00:31] We want to vote on that, because one of those
[1:00:33] had to be equipment things,
[1:00:34] was that it knocked that house right over.
[1:00:36] I got several questions for you.
[1:00:39] The first is, so Paul gravy sold the land,
[1:00:44] because they're building all these houses over there.
[1:00:46] Do we?
[1:00:46] That's the right soul.
[1:00:48] It's really hard of it.
[1:00:49] He sold it, they sold it one in there, that field.
[1:00:51] But he still owns the house on the 40-odd acres of ground.
[1:00:54] Oh, OK.
[1:00:56] So that's important to know.
[1:00:57] Yeah, so it is not currently owned by a developer.
[1:01:02] This is the house to Harold.
[1:01:05] Yeah, it's like the intersection of Seattle.
[1:01:08] It's not his house on USA.
[1:01:09] No, no.
[1:01:10] Okay.
[1:01:12] Yeah, I don't think anything's supposed to be happening to the house
[1:01:14] to just go to construction for the new houses in the back.
[1:01:19] Well, they're replacing gas lines so they can park in their equipment.
[1:01:23] Yeah.
[1:01:23] Yeah. By the way, I think the heritage street came down. And the heritage street come down.
[1:01:30] Yeah, it came down in the storm. It was laying across the road for a long time.
[1:01:35] The one to the two biggest trees are still holding stone.
[1:01:40] Are they? Yeah.
[1:01:43] Yeah.
[1:01:43] I've been out there every day.
[1:01:45] So do you have contact with Paul Grady? No. Do you? No.
[1:01:51] Well, what are we going to do about this?
[1:01:55] Wait until, oh, I'm sorry, but that is just...
[1:01:59] Well, like I said, by law, the only thing we can do is
[1:02:02] put a demolition delay on it if someone files for demolition burn.
[1:02:06] If anyone has other ideas, let me know, but that's by law, that's what we can do.
[1:02:11] So there's absolutely no protection for an 18th century house.
[1:02:16] Well, we could ask Paul if he wants to put a reservation restriction on it, we could, we could, we could do that.
[1:02:24] We could do that.
[1:02:25] Again, we'd have to contact them.
[1:02:27] Right. We'd have to say, hey, we got a concerned community member.
[1:02:33] It was concerned that the house is upkeep needs to be engaged and are you interested in doing that or?
[1:02:41] If someone wants to talk to him, you can take that on.
[1:02:43] I'm not going to take that on, but if someone else wants to talk to him, ask him that.
[1:02:49] Yeah.
[1:02:50] If you work your channels, you got to contact information.
[1:02:53] Well, you can call him on the phone.
[1:02:55] This number is in the phone book.
[1:02:57] Are you still being told?
[1:02:58] You know what?
[1:02:59] Look at Volvo.
[1:03:02] I don't know what Volvo is.
[1:03:03] You look like one of those parked guys.
[1:03:09] So, I'm not going to take that on.
[1:03:10] Okay.
[1:03:11] You can call.
[1:03:11] That'll be great.
[1:03:12] Because if you want to have.
[1:03:14] Yeah.
[1:03:14] There is nothing from a legal jurisdiction we can do, except offer a historical de-restriction
[1:03:26] or he could pursue one on his own through one of these private organizations.
[1:03:36] Or through us either he can do his own, or through historic New England they do it if they
[1:03:42] except the property structure and the property,
[1:03:45] but as a private owner, private property, so.
[1:03:50] And what for us, my cookies, is the fact
[1:03:52] that that door is open and has been open for days.
[1:03:57] And the house is full of empty, you know
[1:04:05] what to say.
[1:04:08] Well, that's where we're at, the disaster.
[1:04:11] So if you want to contact him, you can contact him
[1:04:14] let him know that you or whoever would like to consider putting a preservation, historic preservation
[1:04:24] friction on those and you and he could research what that it is. I'm not going to get involved with
[1:04:31] this point. The last time I spoke to him, I got the impression he just wanted out of no power.
[1:04:42] I was going to say the only other option would actually be a bunch of them call it zone.
[1:04:51] This is a storage district.
[1:04:52] This is a storage district.
[1:04:53] That would be your only other thing.
[1:04:55] Again, you'd have to have two-thirds vote of the town.
[1:04:58] Yes, that's right.
[1:05:00] So you can, but that is small as one building.
[1:05:04] Yes, you can.
[1:05:04] And so you could also propose that at town meeting,
[1:05:08] but you'd have to get two thirds of the town to vote for it.
[1:05:13] And I'm not spiriting that if someone else wants to take that on,
[1:05:16] take that on.
[1:05:18] Yeah.
[1:05:19] So.
[1:05:20] Do you have a client?
[1:05:21] Where do you see?
[1:05:24] As far as I know, he's still around.
[1:05:26] I mean, I don't, I haven't seen him on a long time.
[1:05:30] All right.
[1:05:31] So, or we could pass new legislation in the state of Massachusetts
[1:05:36] that we give us more authority.
[1:05:46] I know, I know, I just got straight up.
[1:05:48] But I feel frustrated too.
[1:05:51] I find mine every day.
[1:05:52] I take mine out for a walk.
[1:05:54] And I'm always going past there.
[1:05:57] I see it.
[1:05:58] But stop in the time.
[1:06:03] All right.
[1:06:03] we're going to last thing we're going to do is look at the review the minutes and maybe improve them
[1:06:11] from August. Do you have them? If not, I have one extra copy or two extra copies,
[1:06:20] and I'll put it up here.
[1:06:37] And Chris, you had one question. Do we need or maybe AI had the question?
[1:06:42] Because if in certain meeting date and mover, seconder, if required, I don't know what
[1:06:47] that we need to do that, you know. What do you think? I don't think so.
[1:06:53] I'll check everything.
[1:07:20] We're edits on the meeting minutes for August 4th.
[1:07:34] Should Nishoda for Nishoda Plantation should I have?
[1:07:38] No, where are you?
[1:07:39] The age of camp.
[1:07:42] Give it up here.
[1:07:45] I know, not Nishoda. Well, the May God Hill Road conservation
[1:07:48] and ran a record brief to show the presentation wording.
[1:07:54] Is that an instance where the issue is?
[1:07:56] Where are you?
[1:07:58] One number.
[1:07:59] I mean, in general, you show the presentation.
[1:08:01] Right, that's here.
[1:08:02] That should have an A or that would be the answer.
[1:08:04] That's my monitor.
[1:08:05] Yes, it should have an A.
[1:08:06] You see where we are, Chris?
[1:08:08] No.
[1:08:08] Yeah.
[1:08:10] That should have an A.
[1:08:11] Yeah.
[1:08:12] Whenever you refer to the Indians that has an A.
[1:08:15] each.
[1:08:16] Go ahead.
[1:08:21] Who wouldn't think a row would always keep up their notes.
[1:08:24] All right.
[1:08:24] Just to make a copy.
[1:08:26] Yeah.
[1:08:27] I just left the age.
[1:08:29] Right.
[1:08:31] Anything else?
[1:08:32] Anything
[1:08:37] else?
[1:08:37] I'm not sure yet.
[1:08:42] I make a motion that we have proved the minutes has amended.
[1:08:46] For August 4th.
[1:08:48] For August 4th.
[1:08:49] Any?
[1:08:50] No, the second?
[1:08:51] I'm sorry.
[1:08:53] What?
[1:08:54] We got a second.
[1:08:55] All in favor?
[1:08:56] All right.
[1:08:57] All right.
[1:08:58] Okay, and it's approved. Any updates on the House signs, Chris, or not really?
[1:09:04] I tested out the forum online. I got to change my email address so it comes to me now.
[1:09:10] I did a test run in order to work on one sign right now for the one across the street from this one to society.
[1:09:20] And I kind of got any other requests. So we're often running, right? Nice.
[1:09:26] Okay, anything else? Oh wait, I know. Yeah, I did get the mail and there wasn't anything of note. Oh, mail.
[1:09:33] You better get you one. Yes, I guess. Yes.
[1:09:37] The alarm's still there. Yeah. We need to go look at the trailer. Right.
[1:09:43] Right. Because we have a colony of raccoons there.
[1:09:49] I don't think anyone want to go look at the long story in the trailer.
[1:09:56] You have the keys.
[1:09:58] I may have the keys.
[1:10:03] So I think what we need is we need permission from the property on our move is it sells
[1:10:10] and it sells.
[1:10:12] We serve something.
[1:10:13] Sorry, forget it.
[1:10:14] It is.
[1:10:14] Isn't it Jimmy McNiff?
[1:10:16] Oh.
[1:10:18] I'm going to apply.
[1:10:19] What's his first name?
[1:10:22] Yes,
[1:10:26] I think you're right, get permission, then find the key.
[1:10:30] Well, yeah, so my experience with padlocks that have been outside for more than one year.
[1:10:37] Usually the key is actually an ankle grinder.
[1:10:41] That's so off the padlock.
[1:10:43] Usually, sometimes you can get a key in it, but usually to rust is just bad.
[1:10:49] Well, to echo a concern, every now and then they move stuff around and I've seen it,
[1:10:56] but I haven't seen it recently.
[1:10:58] And then they put up like a metal gate.
[1:11:02] They have two of the trailers kind of nearby and then there's like a metal gate.
[1:11:05] You can easily walk by, but it's not sort of an inviting place to drive in.
[1:11:12] It's a busy road so I don't think you can easily
[1:11:16] Well, anyway, I don't think you can come unannounced to visit, and again, I haven't seen
[1:11:25] it, so I don't know where it is.
[1:11:28] So does anyone want to pursue this, looking at what's inside?
[1:11:35] Well, then you have to do these steps, you have to contact Jim McNiff and Hunter Clients, ask
[1:11:41] if we can get permission to go in and some how we get in then I'll go with her if you can get
[1:11:48] approval from magnificent I'll go with it. Do you need me? If you got a hundred plans it can
[1:11:55] tell you how to get in touch with him. Okay all right yeah if you arrange it so we don't get shot
[1:12:01] I don't know who.
[1:12:03] I don't go with them.
[1:12:05] I'll even bring my angle grinder with it.
[1:12:09] I can't find a key.
[1:12:10] Why not have the lock on?
[1:12:11] That's what I would do.
[1:12:13] No, I'm totally going to do that.
[1:12:14] Yeah, 100%.
[1:12:15] I know where the key is though.
[1:12:16] It's in my car.
[1:12:18] Wow.
[1:12:19] Impressive.
[1:12:20] I know exactly where it is.
[1:12:22] So maybe it will work.
[1:12:23] Maybe it won't be a key.
[1:12:24] Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're going to have a lock.
[1:12:26] Okay.
[1:12:27] Anything else?
[1:12:28] Well, so I guess my question would be.
[1:12:30] So let's hypothetically say, Jim, it's like, thanks for reaching out.
[1:12:36] We've been meaning to get this thing somewhere else, right?
[1:12:40] So we do that.
[1:12:41] We trigger that.
[1:12:42] We don't really have a plan.
[1:12:46] Yeah.
[1:12:46] The first point is to make sure that nobody is rigging it, you know, to make sure that.
[1:12:52] You mean creatures, more people.
[1:12:54] You mean creatures.
[1:12:55] Yeah.
[1:12:56] So again, what I think what Andrew's saying is, if you contact Jim and he says, we want
[1:13:01] get it out of here, then that's another problem. That's right. I have it at the moment. That's right.
[1:13:10] You two talked about it, okay? Well, I'll give us that term. I will read you something.
[1:13:18] Yeah, I think we paid $1,000 more. Did we pay for it? Yeah.
[1:13:22] It was way below what I think you'd pay for it. I think the larger question is that we do have this
[1:13:30] would. And the question is simply, what do we do with this would? And I've
[1:13:43] done the commission now for 300 years. And we've had this would for at least
[1:13:48] 200 of those 300 years. And I don't imagine that there's a scenario that I see
[1:13:56] where we rebuild the model. So I think we need a plan B whether that be to you know it's old
[1:14:05] growth wood you sell it you donate to a museum you give pieces of it to the society that wants
[1:14:13] pieces of it not all of it but a piece of it.
[1:14:21] I think you're right yeah I mean again if we have a
[1:14:26] historical preservationists in town that's doing historical preservation work, and they
[1:14:34] want to use this in a way that it adds a material value inside of a building. I'd probably
[1:14:43] And there are a couple of people who come to mind.
[1:14:47] My people just didn't settle in there.
[1:14:54] Yeah.
[1:15:00] Okay, anything else? Okay, do I have a motion to adjourn? Oh, we once are next meeting.
[1:15:06] Oh, yes. Uh, the 4th, the 4th, October 14th, all over the fine of November 11th.
[1:15:13] We said, I'm done available, just stay here. On this day, right?
[1:15:17] Oh, November 11th is said, you have the title of the open.
[1:15:20] Well, you can be open, right? Okay, let's find some.
[1:15:23] One federal moment. I didn't. Oh, really?
[1:15:26] Maybe, sorry. But is everyone available, October 14th?
[1:15:29] Yes, because we actually said that meeting and our previous meeting.
[1:15:34] So what's your 18th?
[1:15:36] What's your 12th?
[1:15:37] 12th?
[1:15:37] 18th?
[1:15:38] 11th?
[1:15:39] 11th?
[1:15:41] 11th?
[1:15:43] 11th?
[1:15:45] 11th?
[1:15:46] 11th?
[1:15:47] 11th?
[1:15:47] 11th?
[1:15:48] 11th?
[1:15:48] 11th?
[1:15:51] 11th?
[1:15:52] 11th?
[1:15:52] 11th?
[1:15:54] 11th?
[1:15:55] 11th?
[1:15:58] 11th?
[1:15:58] Um, well, unless the 25th, I think the OSS, yeah, unless you do, unless you move to,
[1:16:08] what's the, oh, oh, no, sorry, the 4th, no, 4th, I, I'm at a conference.
[1:16:14] All right, maybe let's do the 18th, and yeah, so, okay, with everyone?
[1:16:19] Or could you go weird to, yeah, tell, be exact, tell, be 4th, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
[1:16:24] That's great, but it did not hurt for me.
[1:16:26] All right, let's do the end.
[1:16:28] Wednesday, November 18th, you know, right?
[1:16:32] Yeah, that'll still be in this room.
[1:16:34] Is what you're hearing.
[1:16:34] Well, there's a sense of who gets it.
[1:16:36] The end is on the mid-end of room first.
[1:16:38] We'll be in this building.
[1:16:39] We race.
[1:16:39] We'll grow slightly.
[1:16:41] But, probably.
[1:16:44] So, just proposing December 9th, since December is kind of a
[1:16:55] It's fairly enough, I think we should just grab it while we're here.
[1:17:00] Does that work for everyone else?
[1:17:01] Leave it on it.
[1:17:02] We're ready for you now.
[1:17:04] All right.
[1:17:05] December 9th.
[1:17:06] Okay.
[1:17:07] Good.
[1:17:08] And then we, actually we just said the mean tool entire year.
[1:17:12] How about that?
[1:17:13] I mean, you should, the second.
[1:17:15] I just have it like, I just have it, I just have a record, right?
[1:17:18] I have a record.
[1:17:19] I know, I guess.
[1:17:21] That's what you say.
[1:17:22] Take the win.
[1:17:22] Do I have a multiple to adjourn?
[1:17:25] Seven.
[1:17:26] I second that motion.
[1:17:28] All in favor?
[1:17:29] Aye.