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okay I'd like to call um the January
13th 2025 planning meeting Lim me a

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Planning Commission meeting to order it
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o'clock
um so commissioner graph would you lead

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us in the thanks salute everybody please
stand place your hand over your heart

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begin I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for

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all thank you Madame clerk can you call
the role

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please
than oh there we

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go commissioner camarada here
commissioner deor here commissioner

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graph here commissioner Santos presid
commissioner Steinbach here Vice chair

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mattingley here and chair Stevens here
okay we're all here thank you we'll go

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into the oral Communications persons
wishing to address the Planning

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Commission on subjects other than those
scheduled are requested to do so at this

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time please provide your name and
address for the record in order to

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contact the timely meeting a 3 minute
time limit per person has been

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established government code section
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54.2 prohibits the Planning Commission
from discussing or taking actions on a

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specific item unless it appears on the
agenda Madame clerk do you have you

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received any written comments regarding
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not do we have anyone in the

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audience okay I don't see so we move
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motion
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I okay let's move into public hearing
everyone vote on that I did not I was

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not here last month last meeting from
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you and just a reminder if you're
speaking please turn on your

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microphones public hearings a discussion
and consideration of a conditional use

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permit for the sale of beer and wine for
Onsite conception for an existing

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restaurant at 1963 Pacific Coast Highway
Unit B in the community commercial Zone

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applicant is W show Kim of thanks
chicken presented by Erica barbarino

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assistant
planner thank you uh give me one moment

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please I'm having a little bit of
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then are you able to project from your
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um I could
try if do you want to email me the

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presentation and see I can

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thank
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conditional use permit uh number 330
located at 1963 Pacific Coast Highway

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Unit B for the uh thanks chicken Lomita
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restaurant so as ated the request is a
consideration for conditional use permit

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for beer and wine sales for on on-site
consumption at an existing restaurant at

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the prev previously provided address um
the subject property is located in the

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community commercial Zone and the
applicant is requesting alcohol service

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from 12: p.m. to 11: p.m.

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daily don't know why it looks like that
um uh second uh the request is to allow

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the community economic development
director to submit a public convenience

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or necessity for the sale of alcohol and
to find the project exempt from

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squa um background again the property is
located within the community commercial

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Zone um the general plan designation for
this location is commercial and there's

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no additional square footage being
proposed um the property is located the

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property is in a regularly shaped lot um
that is approximately 90,000 sare ft and

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it consists of three multi-tenant
buildings and a freestanding Bank of

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America ATM uh the shopping center has
several restaurants that have City

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approval for beer and wine sales for
on-site uh consumption uh with later

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service times being on the weekends
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Saturday uh according to the municipal
code businesses selling alcoholic

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beverages must be located within 300 ft
from sensitive uses and that is defined

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as schools parks and public Recreation
areas and the distance is measured from

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the closest property line of the subject
parcel to the CL closest property line

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of the parcel containing the sensitive
use uh we have found that there are four

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sensitive uses under these categories uh
within 300 ft of the subject property uh

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those locations are veterans parked
Alexander Fleming Middle School St

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Margaret Mary's school and echelman

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Elementary um here is a visual of where
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located relative to the subject

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property the applicant has provided us a
site plan uh of the of the property and

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blue is where the restaurant is the blue
box is where the restaurant is

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located the applicant has also provided
a floor plan

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in um the staff report staff has found
you know that the use is permitted with

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the c within the CC Zone and the general
plan it aligns with land use goals uh

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1.5 and 1.6 in our uh land use element
um which promotes neighborhood serving

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uses and local um local spending um
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only five calls of service were um
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calls were related to alcohol uh the use
would not be uh detrimental to the

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surrounding properties because the site
provides ample parking and adequate

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circulation with that staff recommends
the approval of conditional use permit

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number 330 and defines the uh project
exempt from squa um with that I am

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available to take any

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questions so
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um it's interesting how this Falls
because we have several restaurants in

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there and if we go 300 foot from
Veterans Park that's from the back

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corner of the
property I mean it's like a thousand

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feet if you try to walk there
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about it I'm just saying is there any
standard that we have for judging the

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300 foot because this is a property that
houses multiple

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uses it's the property that's 300 foot
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understanding it was the

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use yeah I think um this requirement is
typical to other requirements in in

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other cities um and it's
never known um whether the request is

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going to be from a shopping center like
this one or from a property that only

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has one uh individual use um but the the
effects of the use uh extend beyond the

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perimeters of the building itself or
where the use is going to be requ uh is

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being requested because there is parking
and there's traffic and there's going to

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be you know um people walking in and out
of the um the unit and so um again it is

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typical to you know for other cities to
to have the requirement from property

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boundaries
but um it's for you to assess um whether

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those impacts are significant or if they
can um uh if the use can still be

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approved um in consideration of knowing
that information so you take that into

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consideration based on what the property
is correct and the question came up to

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me and I wasn't sure how to answer it um
if you had a use that was not within 300

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feet but if it was within 300 foot it
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just to say that this particular place
was 500 feet away but they had offsite

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parking that was within the 300 foot
would it would that come into

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consideration that's a great question I
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that parking would be offside and it
wouldn't be part of the property where

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the use is located so I think the
measurement would just be from the

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property where the use is located okay
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could you put the slide back up that
shows the actual property with the the

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distances with yeah that can you blow
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up I know it's flipped p uh no no that's
good okay uh I I see what Bob is saying

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to Veterans Park but if you go all the
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actual uh restaurant is at there's not a
problem and probably the same thing with

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regard to
Fleming uh St Margaret Mary and I don't

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know but nonetheless aren't there
other in theory aren't there other

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establishments in
that group of buildings there on that

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property that are serving beer and wine
that are clo quite a bit bit in some

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cases closer to those
uh the schools and things than than this

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one is yes um if you look at the site
plan here

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um the Japanese barbecue spot T in
barbecue um actually the Planning

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Commission approved a beer and wine
license for the suite in in yellow here

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1937 last year and that is arguably much
more closer to Veterans Park and the

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schools um and in addition cavatina uh
kubol excuse me uh the Faux restaurant

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and the Chinese restaurant at the corner
they all have active beer and wine

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licenses here in the city thank

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you yes the applicant is here did he
want to speak

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on I mean he doesn't have to I

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chair you could come closer chair are we
open are we opening the public hearing

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now oh yes I'm sorry we'll now open the
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hearing uh thank you uh thank you for
giving me the opportunity to speak my

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name is u j Kim you can call me John and
I'm the owner of the Dan

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kilomet and I'm such an honor for me to
be here and speak in front of you uh we

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are uh we are selling fried chicken and
uh we are a restaurant serving Korean

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fried chicken and other popular dishes
and we take pride in in offering a warm

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and welcoming environment where our
guest can enjoy great food and time with

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friends and family uh we are apply for
an alcohol license to enhance our

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customers dining
experience by ping our meals with beage

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they
enjoy adding alcohol options would allow

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us to cater to a wider audience and
provide an even better customer

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experience and contribute more to local
economy we are committed to uh following

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all regulations to ensure responsible
service and to maintaining the safe and

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family friendly atmosphere that our
customers

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love uh thank you for uh considering our
application and uh uh thank you for

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hearing and uh yes thank you thank
you does anyone have any questions for

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okay thank
you um Madam clerk did we receive any

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written Communications on
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did
um George kibet um sent an email

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expressing his support for the
approval uh of this item he said a beer

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and wine license will be complimentary
to the menu items being served and help

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this business succeed I'm very familiar
with this location and the surrounding

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area
I don't expect any negative consequences

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due to this approval he could not be
here tonight due to um a previous

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commitment thank
you okay with no other communication

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we'll close the public hearing thank you
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much
um if there's no discussion or

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questions and I get a motion and a
second to approve the staff's

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recommendation a motion to

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approve all right we have a first and
motion all in favor say I I

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n okay motion

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passes so scheduled manners
Communications regarding city council

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actions yes good evening um at the uh
December 17th uh city council meeting

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the city council held the second reading
for the Adu

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ordinance and uh decided to adopt the
ordinance at the time at the same uh

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meeting the council held the first
reading uh for the uh residential um

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code cleanup as we call it uh this is
after the um the ordinance uh was before

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the the city council and uh they made
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comments uh to remove all the justed uh
code updates related to parking and so

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um uh the the uh ordinance that was
presented to them included U those

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revisions uh the second reading for that
item uh is scheduled for the January

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21st meeting uh so that would be for
next week uh at the same meeting uh the

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city council adopted an urgency
ordinance that would allow uh the code

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update uh to uh go into effect
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um the ordinance included items that
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as the um the Flor racial requirements
as well as uh the requirement for lot

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coverage and so those uh standards have
become effective immediately after the

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urgency ordinance was adopted and that
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update thank
you um any upcoming developments in

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businesses we need need to be aware of
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of um I have no updates uh for you at
the moment but I'm here to answer any

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questions if you have
any okay thank

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you um staff
announcements planning commissioner

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items do anybody
have first staff so what's the next big

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thing that we're looking at for us

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uh we have a quite a few uh things in
fact we have a long list of code updates

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that we're working on right
now um we've already started

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communication uh with um denovo uh who
is doing our phase two of the zoning

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code update and so that's um probably
going to be the biggest thing and then

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there's like I said a whole um number of
other code updates that will be

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processed
uh before uh at the same time and after

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uh that project because there are some
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emergency so um I think those are some
of the big things uh in terms of

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projects we've we've had a number of
meetings with uh people that are

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interested in submitting applications we
just um haven't seen those applications

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submitted great
thanks do we know when the Sho store's

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going open they're working on it
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is that it would be um at the start of
this year so I would imagine it would be

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soon um but I have made a I have made a
a phone call to them to find out what

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the starting date because uh it sounds
like they would want to have a grand

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opening and uh we would want to be part
of that as well so um as soon as I have

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more information I'll share that with
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group okay
um do we have any idea when that Z that

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the second phase of that zoning thing is
coming to us so we can kind of be on the

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lookout for it
or that's going to take a few more

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months to work on and so um I think the
plan was to bring that to you um

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probably sometime in May uh
June um that's the hope at least um but

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it it it's going to include a lot of a
lot of smaller code updates and then

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like I was saying there's there's a few
other things we're working on we have a

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a long list of code updates and other
things we want to work on um but yeah

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that's kind of a rough estimate at this
time so to come to us in pieces so phase

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two is going to come to you all at once
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the commercial development
standards um and it would include um

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some changes to
definitions um concerning um different

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land uses and phrases in the commercial
development standards and then it will

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likely include uh some of the um parking
uh Provisions to um match the uses that

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we have in the permitted use table so I
think that's going to be the bulk of

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that code update um but there are like I
said a number of other things um that

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will likely come to you in pieces and
that's because they each will probably

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warrant their own discussion and uh we
will like to uh bring those to you and

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and have sort of separate conversation
on each of those other items well you

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mentioned phase two but phase two is
pretty pretty big

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piece that's correct and don't you think
it would be better if we could break

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that down into pieces so we're looking
at pieces like that rather than all a

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lot of this all at one

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time um it will be a big piece um but
our expectations is that it won't change

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much of what we have in our code it
would it would be similar to what we did

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with the residential standards in that
it clarify a few code

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updates and uh move some things around
down but didn't quite uh change the

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development
standards um that much and so that's

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what the expectation is with the
commercial

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standards um the things that I think
will change we do expect those to bring

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those to you

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separately and just one other thing
when's the deadline for phase two excuse

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me the deadline for phase two as far as
as having to no deadline in PH we can

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take as long as we want you can take as
long as you would like uh and we can

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have multiple meetings on phe to um if
um multiple meetings are required to

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have a full discussion on that
item okay thank

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you um is
there anything

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else one more
thing our favorite subject the bylaws

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yes so that is that is a an item we've
been talking about and um there has been

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a lot of research that the city clerk
had to do on that and that research was

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finalized and that information was
provided to uh the city manager and I um

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and um just so that I guess the group
understands um we what we're calling

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bylaws is uh consists of two it's a
two-part question or

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issue um there's a Planning Commission
bylaws um and that item can come to the

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Planning Commission at any time and we
can bring that item at the next meeting

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if you like um however the bylaws um are
for the most part up to date uh they do

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include the correct uh meeting time and
a lot of what's current um is on that on

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those bylaw standards maybe I can just
make that uh document available to the

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commission but um I think what was being
requested was uh a change in the

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municipal code that currently restricts
the uh Commissioners uh to not miss more

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than three meetings otherwise uh they
would need um to have their absences

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excused by the city
council and that's not part of the

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bylaws those are part of the planning
commission requirements but um there

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also part of other commission's uh
requirements and so the idea was to have

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the city council look at that and decide
what they wanted to do and whether they

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wanted to U make more of a you know um a
comprehensive uh change uh that would

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affect all the different commissions
that have the same

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language on that note can I make a
suggestion I mean this is is just my

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personal opinion but um we all know that
things happen and I know that there's

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three misses but
to stand to have a commissioner who

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basically volunteers their time to stand
in front of city council at a city

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council meeting and have to
justify why he missed or she

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missed the meeting I think is unfair I
think if if it's if they're going to you

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know if you're going to have to go in
front of the council I think it should

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be done not in an open city council
meeting so that you can State publicly

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why you why it happened I mean I'm not
going to stand up in front of the whole

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city and say well I'm sorry but my dog
died and I couldn't make it I mean so

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just that just maybe if they could tweak
that so that you're not publicly

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humiliated for you know something that
happened in life just my

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opinion great
point I mean I I that was

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just okay so we I guess if we have no
other did you have something to

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say that's what I'm asking does anybody
else have anything else they want to

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bring up and discuss at this time so I'd
like to make a motion to adjourn in the

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memory of those people have lost their
lives in the recent fires and to all

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those who have lost their homes in the
recent fires as

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well I
agree meeting adjourned

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until February something it's not
written on there next