1 00:00:16,180 --> 00:00:18,940 Let's see, item number two, additions or deletions to the agenda. 2 00:00:20,140 --> 00:00:30,260 I have two, what is to remove the PISIP under 8B because I never received that, I was expecting 3 00:00:30,260 --> 00:00:35,400 to get something from the state, but I never did. So I have to follow with them. And then also 4 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:41,260 of them to add an executive session on where we say 5 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,320 313A1F confidential attorney client 6 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,140 communications. 7 00:00:53,210 --> 00:00:56,230 So moved. 8 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:57,470 Any second? 9 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:57,990 I'll second. 10 00:00:59,170 --> 00:01:00,710 All the papers say aye. 11 00:01:02,890 --> 00:01:08,750 Number three, a minute to parole, meetings of 817-2026 and 824-2026. 12 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:12,830 I just want to make a note that I've changed the signature of a page because Tom was in here. 13 00:01:13,630 --> 00:01:16,230 So, he said Tom, but now since you're in here. 14 00:01:17,010 --> 00:01:18,670 That is the only change I made. 15 00:01:19,690 --> 00:01:20,830 So, I just want to give you the message. 16 00:01:20,930 --> 00:01:23,390 This is like for me to be 17 and be 24. 17 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:26,150 Say it. 18 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:26,810 I'll do the camera. 19 00:01:28,810 --> 00:01:29,050 Hi. 20 00:01:29,970 --> 00:01:30,490 I see you. 21 00:01:30,770 --> 00:01:31,410 Select board. 22 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:31,930 I am four. 23 00:01:32,090 --> 00:01:33,270 Select board pay orders. 24 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:40,090 I move to approve the pay orders for payroll and accounts payable. 25 00:01:40,770 --> 00:01:40,970 Okay. 26 00:01:41,770 --> 00:01:43,110 All those in favor? 27 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:45,310 All right. 28 00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:46,170 I don't cry. 29 00:01:46,330 --> 00:01:47,650 The announcements in four respondents. 30 00:01:47,930 --> 00:01:50,010 I have a bunch because we haven't met in a while. 31 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:51,090 Things have been happening. 32 00:01:52,350 --> 00:01:55,070 The office staff have purchased letter heads in the new town. 33 00:01:55,150 --> 00:01:56,050 We'll go and speak slick. 34 00:01:56,570 --> 00:01:58,170 So thank you for. 35 00:01:58,350 --> 00:01:58,570 Awesome. 36 00:01:59,390 --> 00:02:00,230 Approving that. 37 00:02:01,270 --> 00:02:02,590 And I've already used it twice. 38 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:06,310 The water heater has developed a regression. 39 00:02:06,610 --> 00:02:07,510 It's a type of bug. 40 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:09,690 The hot water heater has developed a leak. 41 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:12,370 which has the heat hot water heater to shut off 42 00:02:12,370 --> 00:02:15,080 because it detects it and it was getting water on it. 43 00:02:16,230 --> 00:02:18,510 So we don't have any hot water here at the moment. 44 00:02:18,730 --> 00:02:21,430 We're hoping to have somebody on it by Friday, 45 00:02:22,350 --> 00:02:24,130 but be wow, we don't have hot water, 46 00:02:24,370 --> 00:02:25,650 which is a little bit of a bomb on it. 47 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:30,350 I'm gonna go to the motorway for a little bit of a bomb on it. 48 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:32,750 I'm hopefully closed out the right-hand project. 49 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:38,350 You can catch the stuff, the person that I've been working with, 50 00:02:38,350 --> 00:02:42,810 He was coming back to me and saying, well, we need to redo this letter, we need to redo this. 51 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:43,630 We need to redo this. 52 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:51,510 So hopefully I have finally said a final thing and we can close that off and be done with 53 00:02:51,510 --> 00:02:54,710 FEMA on a DR-2740 or whatever this. 54 00:02:55,450 --> 00:02:57,410 And you guys aren't allowed to have another flood. 55 00:02:58,970 --> 00:02:59,290 Okay. 56 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:01,050 No, I'm not. 57 00:03:04,030 --> 00:03:06,550 Well, now we can start the Spring Home Road part. 58 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:08,470 Just for funsies. 59 00:03:09,290 --> 00:03:09,850 Funsies. 60 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:13,390 The file structure is being built. 61 00:03:15,590 --> 00:03:21,550 We're hoping to actually, this is, I must have written this last week. 62 00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:22,430 It is online. 63 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:25,090 So the new file structure is online. 64 00:03:25,850 --> 00:03:30,470 Tina, me, and Ally are the pilot people, 65 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:31,870 beta, testers. 66 00:03:32,910 --> 00:03:35,870 So the next step is to get together and start moving 67 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:41,110 stuff from the old file structure into the new file structure, I'll say it about this because 68 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:52,810 the old file structure is a mess. So once we do that we're going to have a whole staff meeting 69 00:03:52,810 --> 00:03:59,170 and explain the importance of using SharePoint rather than one's desktop and get everybody on board 70 00:03:59,170 --> 00:04:03,110 with the new file structure and how to save documents and things. 71 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:09,550 I just wanted to mention to the slideboard that there's been a check in public 72 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:10,970 record request recently. 73 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:16,210 Both from large companies, they sell our data, they ask us further, like, bit 74 00:04:16,210 --> 00:04:20,850 information than they sell our data, and then also just from, you know, citizens. 75 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:24,190 So it does eat a lot of staff time. 76 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:25,950 Just so you're aware. 77 00:04:25,950 --> 00:04:31,210 And so the public is aware if you have public rights requests, just be mindful that it really does. 78 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:35,210 You couple a lot of our time if you're not specific when you're request. 79 00:04:39,740 --> 00:04:43,600 I will be meeting with the towns in the ACO regional agreement. 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:52,580 That's the Animal Control Officer with regional approved wind and county initiative on 910 with a hopefully both to allow us into the program. 81 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:59,220 I'm also a tenia Q&A session at the Barber religion on Thursday for our candidates for 82 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:00,060 the tenon governor. 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:07,680 I will also be attending a capital planning roundtable in Wilmington on Friday and all that 84 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,160 to say is that I will be working remotely for Wednesday for the rest of the week. 85 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:16,060 And the towncribes office will be closed Wednesday and Thursday for training. 86 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:22,460 So, those two days essentially nobody will be in the office unless, you know, the income 87 00:05:22,460 --> 00:05:24,600 zinner, welcomes in. 88 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:30,140 So, just so everybody knows it will be the front-dance staff who like to call ourselves. 89 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Of course, finance included in the board's meeting packet, there's an announcement from 90 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,700 7th for the latest round of the Ganton Board program. 91 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:45,220 I took that program when it was the first started, it's a really excellent program with 92 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:51,180 people thinking about getting on. Government boards, board, non-profit boards, sort of a 93 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:57,020 approach to that people that want to. It's really, it's really awesome. The first 94 00:05:57,020 --> 00:06:04,120 classes in Saturday come to three October, 30,000. There's a notice from the Wind & Ridge 95 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:10,580 locomotion about an additional public hearing on their draft fan update. On September 21, 2016, 96 00:06:10,580 --> 00:06:12,560 It's a 6 p.m. weekly that's on Zoom. 97 00:06:12,980 --> 00:06:14,600 There's a notice from the town of Jamaica 98 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,000 of a public hearing on their enhanced energy plan 99 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,620 on September 22nd, at 4.15 p.m. 100 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,120 also I believe on Zoom. 101 00:06:22,540 --> 00:06:26,480 There's a grant opportunity which opened today for organizations 102 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,740 considering being a warming shelter. 103 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,860 It's called the extreme cold weather shelter 104 00:06:30,860 --> 00:06:33,340 program and all the information in the packet. 105 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,660 There's a notice from the state that they 106 00:06:35,660 --> 00:06:37,460 approve which failing as a health officer. 107 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:45,580 There's a template from VLCT for Class 4 Highlight Policy and I was wondering if you want to pursue updating that policy, 108 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:49,260 because I think the last time was updated as a 1981 or a few years ago. 109 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,940 So that's true, I'll put it on the next agenda as an agenda item. 110 00:06:57,940 --> 00:07:02,460 You can maybe take two of you guys to work with Eda. 111 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Or maybe you and Josh. 112 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Yeah, Josh will have some good input. 113 00:07:10,460 --> 00:07:10,760 Yeah. 114 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:14,720 I'll do that. 115 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,880 There are several catering with our province, which is not making online packets. 116 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,000 I was having weird network issues yesterday or something. 117 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Whenever I did that. 118 00:07:25,220 --> 00:07:28,240 But they are in your printed packet. They're just a play-wise. 119 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:55,840 The scopeing study, the draft scopeing study for bloodproofing by Stephen Cray is in your packet trying to pin him down to come to see this blackboard and explain. A lot of it, there's a lot of it. It's an engineering document. I mean, I read it, it said, well, that sounds good. I don't know if I don't know if they're good or bad, I guess. So hopefully we can get into the meeting soon. 120 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:25,820 And then there's email, of course, on and from Barry Manodale, accusing Town staff from this information in this conduct, and I just want to say that Tina and Ally work really hard to validate the public, and they don't purposely mislead anybody, and definitely not engaging in this conduct, so, you know, members of the public come to them and they're angry sometimes because they have to pay the taxes or they, you know, haven't gotten what they want, but just be kind, 121 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,880 we're all human. So just wanted to bring that up. That's all I have. 122 00:08:34,540 --> 00:08:37,940 Thank you. Item six, visitor and consumer citizens. 123 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:43,370 Do you have one question? I don't think I want to talk. 124 00:08:51,490 --> 00:08:52,470 Yeah, I don't hear anything. 125 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:57,300 Let's see. Item seven, liquor commission? 126 00:08:57,620 --> 00:08:57,940 Nothing. 127 00:08:57,940 --> 00:09:02,300 You know, so item eight roads and bridges, eight eight updates, 128 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:09,160 progress on the 129 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:18,540 grants and aid project that was on kind of vacationing lodges near vacation lodges on 130 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:21,420 green hearts, right? Was that where it was? 131 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:29,300 I don't remember. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure if 132 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:33,340 it was limited to that, but that was where they've been working. And there was some 133 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:36,140 up on Barker to that I think it was. 134 00:09:37,060 --> 00:09:41,300 I'm not sure if the two graduates were tied together, but it was like stone lining 135 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:44,780 and two culverts, I think. 136 00:09:45,220 --> 00:09:46,500 Progress is being made on that. 137 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:52,200 It's not complete, but Josh is meeting with the state representative to hopefully close 138 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,260 that out within that week or so and get that grant. 139 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Except for grant money. 140 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:09,480 Nothing specific other than cruise back together, 141 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:20,530 and mowing, creating the usual round and round. 142 00:10:23,210 --> 00:10:27,910 Still waiting for the truck. That seems to be an update every meeting. 143 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:31,630 I think that's nothing. Every single town that's trying to get it. 144 00:10:32,910 --> 00:10:38,410 Yeah, yeah, we're still hopeful, but we do not have it yet. 145 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:51,830 So, progress being made on the repairs of the shed and the progress will continue on the overhang for the fuel tank. 146 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:58,310 I think there was one little delay, but they're coming back to finish that one up. 147 00:10:58,450 --> 00:11:00,590 So there's still a little work going on there. 148 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:09,950 The wastewater project is rolling along, that's, I don't know if that's a separate update, 149 00:11:10,810 --> 00:11:13,970 but because it's a state highway, but they're making progress. 150 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:16,850 So, hey, are you just going to make your project, sir? 151 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:21,090 Yeah, be aware of those road delays. 152 00:11:22,450 --> 00:11:26,890 And we will also be seeing delays on Spring Hill Road 153 00:11:28,830 --> 00:11:32,430 as the Colored Project kind of ramps up. 154 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:37,970 And then the two Colored Replacement Projects on Little Pond Road 155 00:11:37,970 --> 00:11:43,030 and also Spring Hill Road will probably overlap 156 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:53,190 the box-coverte project, so there'll be some time delays, maybe not. It'll be a full closure 157 00:11:53,190 --> 00:12:00,030 when the box-coverte is being put in, it'll be like a kind of a time delay when the regular 158 00:12:00,030 --> 00:12:09,890 cover, like town culverts are being replaced. I did contact the school to make sure they didn't 159 00:12:09,890 --> 00:12:14,310 in buses that they run buses at either end of the road, which is convenient because that's 160 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:15,730 the only parts that will be open. 161 00:12:17,610 --> 00:12:17,650 Yeah. 162 00:12:17,650 --> 00:12:24,570 So, there was a question about the little pond road when that starts, because it's 163 00:12:24,570 --> 00:12:26,550 out of like, they might run buses up there. 164 00:12:28,210 --> 00:12:31,010 So, yeah, I think that's not about that offline, but just. 165 00:12:31,010 --> 00:12:35,950 One of the things that Josh and I talked about, and I'm not sure if it's been communicated 166 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:44,790 to the contractor, Sanderson, but it would seem like we know when the bus runs, so if they 167 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:50,170 avoid ripping across the road at the time when the bus needs to get through, they should 168 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:59,710 be able to consolidate the bulk of their work between 8 and 230 or whatever. There might 169 00:12:59,710 --> 00:13:04,530 be preparation work or something that can be done before they actually trench the road 170 00:13:04,530 --> 00:13:07,130 and close it temporarily so. 171 00:13:07,470 --> 00:13:09,810 Hopefully they can work together and keep that 172 00:13:10,850 --> 00:13:11,650 softly open. 173 00:13:12,190 --> 00:13:13,170 Yeah, so, okay. 174 00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:17,150 They have to go together and know on the waste waters. 175 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:18,850 Just people be aware of the stop lights 176 00:13:18,850 --> 00:13:20,170 that they are now too as well. 177 00:13:22,050 --> 00:13:24,470 It's got to go be off guard when I was following them. 178 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:25,530 They almost ran right through home. 179 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:29,770 Just be aware of their stop lights now on either end. 180 00:13:30,490 --> 00:13:32,070 Yeah, that's a good note because I think 181 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:36,990 a lot of local people could drive our roads with their eyes closed. 182 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:42,290 All of a sudden, you see something that hasn't ever been there, and you're like, oh, yeah. 183 00:13:43,070 --> 00:13:43,910 We've got to go about that. 184 00:13:44,210 --> 00:13:48,570 So that's a good reminder, that everything you have for a date. 185 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:50,010 Right. 186 00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:51,090 So the new A.B. 187 00:13:51,370 --> 00:13:54,830 Review and improve driveway access permit would all. 188 00:13:55,130 --> 00:13:57,190 Um, can you speak to that? 189 00:13:57,210 --> 00:13:57,670 Yeah. 190 00:13:58,050 --> 00:14:01,970 Um, I don't see any reason when Josh looked at this as well. 191 00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:09,690 I don't know if it's in here, but I have a question. 192 00:14:10,890 --> 00:14:13,030 I can't just imagine I didn't have a key. 193 00:14:13,170 --> 00:14:14,070 Still not yet. 194 00:14:14,730 --> 00:14:15,370 From Josh. 195 00:14:18,110 --> 00:14:19,670 Where did I just see that? 196 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:20,790 Thought that I'd do it. 197 00:14:21,650 --> 00:14:22,570 Drawing victory. 198 00:14:23,370 --> 00:14:23,990 Is this one? 199 00:14:24,830 --> 00:14:25,210 Yes. 200 00:14:26,590 --> 00:14:27,190 Yeah. 201 00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:28,410 Who's the packer? 202 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:29,510 Oh yeah. 203 00:14:30,030 --> 00:14:30,190 Okay. 204 00:14:30,330 --> 00:14:31,050 Where did I go? 205 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:34,830 Anyway, 206 00:14:36,850 --> 00:14:41,170 I have that, that's not the one that I'm looking at, but yes, Josh looked when 207 00:14:41,170 --> 00:14:52,690 and looked at it, and the only thing that we commented on was that the town has a requirement 208 00:14:52,690 --> 00:14:59,750 or a limitation, I guess, that a single property, property doesn't have more than one 209 00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:59,970 Thank you. 210 00:15:06,210 --> 00:15:21,930 So, I would say, and I got this forwarded to me from will. So, I think they've gone through that process and it's okay because one's on Melanie Hill and one's on a bungalow room. 211 00:15:21,930 --> 00:15:30,650 And it's not like it's not a loop for the accesses still to me, if you, if you, if you, if you, 212 00:15:30,650 --> 00:15:31,810 there are two separate options. 213 00:15:32,350 --> 00:15:40,310 I think that's the purpose of preventing multiple ones. 214 00:15:40,890 --> 00:15:46,170 But this appears to be more of like a storage access. 215 00:15:46,170 --> 00:15:59,610 So, we could approve it with the exception of the DRB just saying that it's okay because... 216 00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:01,710 Yeah, contingent on the DRB decision. 217 00:16:03,270 --> 00:16:03,370 Yeah. 218 00:16:03,370 --> 00:16:04,010 Do you have any more? 219 00:16:04,190 --> 00:16:06,130 So, I've done the comment section here. 220 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:06,930 Um... 221 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:07,890 Yeah. 222 00:16:08,570 --> 00:16:08,770 Okay. 223 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:10,470 Yeah. 224 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:12,730 Hending the DRB approval. 225 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:17,990 And I guess I'm going to agree with conditions, yeah. 226 00:16:20,890 --> 00:16:26,870 Not to throw a wrench, but I think it's a simple, it will probably even answer that. 227 00:16:27,650 --> 00:16:37,370 Maybe I don't know if it's worth saying D.R.B. or Zoning Administrator review, but either one of the surprises I believe. 228 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,180 All right, there's a motion. 229 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,960 I will prove access to our application submitted by Roya Will for a modification of an existing 230 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,340 access to our parcel located on the north side of Melendee Hill Road and authorize the 231 00:16:51,340 --> 00:16:56,220 chair to sign the permit on behalf of the board with the stipulation of the DRB approves 232 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,280 that this as well. 233 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,240 All those in favor? 234 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,900 All right, 235 00:17:18,310 --> 00:17:23,210 eight of nine A, count pressure, a point select board representative for tax sale. 236 00:17:23,530 --> 00:17:30,790 So essentially, you have to have a select board representative at tax sale in case the town wants to purchase a property. 237 00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:38,650 And I recommend to the board that you appoint Taylor because he's on the land acquisition task force. 238 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:45,330 I moved to point to our property at the select board representative. 239 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:50,050 the tech sale occurring on September 16th, 2020 6th, 10 30 a.m. at the town office. 240 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:52,310 Second. So all those in favor? 241 00:17:53,050 --> 00:17:53,330 All right. 242 00:17:54,790 --> 00:17:54,990 Okay. 243 00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:55,850 Good day. 244 00:17:56,850 --> 00:17:57,650 Thank you. 245 00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:58,450 What's going on? 246 00:18:00,130 --> 00:18:01,470 Bye, bye, bye, bye. 247 00:18:02,210 --> 00:18:02,590 All right. 248 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:03,530 Nice being. 249 00:18:03,530 --> 00:18:04,610 My cheek is alive. 250 00:18:04,910 --> 00:18:06,270 Part one, recreation director. 251 00:18:06,610 --> 00:18:08,690 Review an approved change order for tense court. 252 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:15,780 Hi. 253 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:16,420 Okay. 254 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:25,400 And you know, saying that a couple of times for 13, the idea of this kind of contact 255 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,620 with the answer to the answer to the answer to the answer to the answer. 256 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:35,920 To see what it's worth across to add to new, but it's not. 257 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:40,840 People will of course spend a lot of time. 258 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:48,240 conversation since I have joined the board, it is kind of uneniable that typical ball is 259 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:56,720 by far, or more, there's more people ball being played on those courts than tennis, 260 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:05,760 easily said. Any time you go down, this happens, or all six courts are being used. The conflict 261 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,160 It has started at least communication and I've received. 262 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,120 It hasn't been terrible, but it's kind of nice to act for a quarter 263 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:18,800 if it doesn't become terrible, because it's kind of bad. 264 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,180 I show up in years 12 people playing football, 265 00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:26,600 but I want to play tennis to my friend, what's the conversation here? 266 00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:30,320 So, that's the reasoning behind it. 267 00:19:30,340 --> 00:19:33,840 I hope we got, I think you all have. 268 00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:48,940 And so the board COVID, we just reached to a crew, the change order, and include the building of two dedicated pick-of-all cards. 269 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,720 What's the price difference? I don't know what the price difference was initially. 270 00:19:53,720 --> 00:20:02,300 The price difference, originally we were looking at one on 11, and there was some debate whether it needed to be all of that, 271 00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:08,900 we're not because of stabilization fabric, we were kind of rolling the dice to see if they took up the old court. 272 00:20:09,140 --> 00:20:12,240 And we were like, wow, this foundation is great, which we didn't really anticipate. 273 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,460 So we kind of, I think we wrote the contract to not exceed the hydro amount. 274 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:26,220 This is an additional 71, and I think we can consider a whole amount of, actually, probably 275 00:20:26,220 --> 00:20:26,940 speak to it too. 276 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:33,620 I could, with the new space, we're now going to have a four-and-a-half, of St. 277 00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:41,460 Lization fabric, 12 inches of sub-base on the tennis court, and 24 inches on the new court, 278 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,860 to make sure that we're not dealing with this problem for decades. 279 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,480 I 280 00:20:53,290 --> 00:20:56,570 just realized I put the pull amount in here. 281 00:20:56,730 --> 00:20:57,870 Do you know what the exact amount? 282 00:20:59,110 --> 00:21:05,150 71,000, $15,000 is the amount that I just ate on the contract amount and the new. 283 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:06,230 71,000? 284 00:21:06,650 --> 00:21:07,690 $15,000,000. 285 00:21:08,610 --> 00:21:09,850 So that's the numberation. 286 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:17,410 We have a number one, 82, 95, that would be the new total. 287 00:21:17,530 --> 00:21:18,630 That's the usual part. 288 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:29,570 The board has already put 40 towards the project from our last fiscal year. 289 00:21:30,270 --> 00:21:38,470 And then also has a report in the pain-free fund that we've been kind of preparing for the last two years for this. 290 00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:43,250 So we started that adding 20 each year to that fund. 291 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:51,830 So we're essentially looking to the bottom, just over 100,000 from Senator Commission 292 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:53,550 S, was previously approved. 293 00:21:54,250 --> 00:22:01,630 I think up to 150 was the number we agreed on, the check rate and some math and yeah. 294 00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:06,810 So any discussion? 295 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:14,310 My only comment is, the work's supposed to start in a few weeks, you already have a... 296 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:19,910 We wanted to set date yet. 297 00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:24,230 We're kind of waiting for this, and then to confirm with Hunter, 298 00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:29,130 I've been told by Sean and the vanishing right here. 299 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:44,820 I would like at least two weeks to give notice to our players because we're trying to push off as long as possible for the ability for people to play as long as they can, but we also want to make sure that it's done an exciting fashion. 300 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:52,260 And if we act sooner than later, I believe Sean from advantage can actually get all posts 301 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:56,440 splitting before he leaves the area for the winter. 302 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,520 So that's kind of a good idea to dance and we'll figure out if this is a perfect ending 303 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,740 lot figure out if we're going to do it for the tennis work authority. 304 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:13,940 Well, and that's what I was kind of ramping up to was if the work is already kind of set 305 00:23:13,940 --> 00:23:21,320 for the tennis courts and the timeline is kind of winter, adding this and getting it done 306 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:29,440 is basically going to save you like a year, I mean at least on redoing, if you have to 307 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,520 go ahead and add this out of later being. 308 00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:33,580 Oh, yes, okay, yeah, percussion. 309 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:42,300 So the timing that we set up for tennis is the same timeline where all of our demo and grade 310 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:48,580 and actually in the asphalt and ideally in the coast because that gets done just 311 00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:52,400 going to be between the two asphalt players but that's not clear at all. 312 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:58,560 Okay, so yeah, that would all be done before we did. 313 00:23:59,140 --> 00:24:01,440 And then in the spring they come back. 314 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,720 They check if there's any bird bats in the river pair or anything like that. 315 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,840 And that's sort of a certain finishing process. 316 00:24:07,420 --> 00:24:07,860 And then fancy. 317 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,200 But the folks are going to be up. 318 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:17,240 So timeline should stay the same, and we did that, and we did that consciously, so that 319 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,320 you're ahead. 320 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,520 So we could have that timeline in his schedule to minimize the downtime. 321 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:33,020 So the question of now versus later on the additional courts, one, you've got everybody 322 00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:37,020 out there doing the work, two, you're saving a wall. 323 00:24:37,020 --> 00:24:41,400 of fencing, essentially, essentially a whole, 324 00:24:42,020 --> 00:24:44,920 to get the dimension 120 feet of, 325 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,420 because we have it on the tennis, 326 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,320 and then you have to build it on the table, 327 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:49,980 and now those can share. 328 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,820 You don't have to go over a pass through. 329 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,500 And then also space-wise, 330 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,600 fill out the programming, 331 00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:57,260 exchange, other resources, 332 00:24:57,260 --> 00:24:58,200 and several animals. 333 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,520 It seems like all forward motion 334 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,580 if you do the projects. 335 00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:02,860 Come on. 336 00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:06,180 And then whatever your likes to say 337 00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:08,720 to do is that prices usually aren't getting better. 338 00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:11,680 So, historically, yeah. 339 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:20,520 So, one of the things we've barely started and we'd like to be able to do a stronger 340 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:27,680 campaign on this a little bit of fundraising from public as well, you know, that the parks 341 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,780 get used to buying non-lundinary residents, yet non-lundinary residents are the ones you 342 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:38,660 front of this. The park sport felt very strongly that when we had a tent of sport, we 343 00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:46,500 will maintain. So that whole aspect seems like an appropriate thing for an area to continue 344 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:53,160 to maintain. The pickable wall is our hope that we could try to get a lot of this 70,000 raised 345 00:25:53,160 --> 00:26:02,680 by private owners. So it's an ongoing task of myself and the park sport and TOR as well. 346 00:26:02,780 --> 00:26:07,780 to see how much about meeting race, to the less than ever, on Monday there. 347 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:09,580 That's how it's important. 348 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,480 So in those minutes, anybody feels like the only thing you stick to the time. 349 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,460 To the Friday. 350 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,580 Does that mean how long is that on the empty airbox? 351 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,060 Sounds like a radiation dial. 352 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:27,440 Are you really coming motion? 353 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,060 I moved to approve the change order for a ping-ree park tennis court replacement in the amount. 354 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:39,100 Not to exceed 182,895. 355 00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:43,320 Otherwise, the town of the district is peace sign on behalf of the board. 356 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,840 That's a total amount of the project. 357 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:47,700 Not the change. 358 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,720 The changes. 359 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,400 Right. Okay. 360 00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:51,540 So, anyway. 361 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,220 Thank you. 362 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:52,860 Thank you. 363 00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:53,100 Yeah. 364 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,960 Let me scratch that. 365 00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,060 I moved to approve the change order 366 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,460 for a pre-group heart tennis court replacement, 367 00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:09,890 not to exceed 71,000 and $59. 368 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Today, not include the total dollar you have to pay. 369 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,840 I don't know if it came out, or if it could have been that much. 370 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,580 Penalther is the town administrator, just sign on behalf of the board. 371 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,040 Second. 372 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,200 A little timetable. 373 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,180 I can sign this now and then you can take it because I'm going to be in the office for the next couple days. 374 00:27:35,050 --> 00:27:38,770 He's chatting on the side, I don't want to be heard of you. 375 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:40,710 Oh, that was a question for you. 376 00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:42,790 You're just saying yes. 377 00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:44,610 Okay. 378 00:27:44,610 --> 00:27:45,510 Well, sure. 379 00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:47,530 Don't go anywhere yet. 380 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:51,030 Take this touch. 381 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:52,930 Please. 382 00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:57,830 Okay. 383 00:27:57,970 --> 00:28:00,290 I can't go anywhere yet anyway, but. 384 00:28:00,390 --> 00:28:02,150 Scan and send you to a show. 385 00:28:02,410 --> 00:28:02,710 Yeah. 386 00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:03,570 I don't mind. 387 00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:09,170 All right, nine being part two, except the resignation of Kelly Pilella from 388 00:28:09,170 --> 00:28:10,110 Sparks Ward. 389 00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:17,030 Um, yes, I think she's moving out of unnecessary, um, and so she needs to 390 00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:17,550 resign. 391 00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:21,650 I thought we'd have her resign before we tried to appoint somebody else. 392 00:28:24,020 --> 00:28:28,060 I moved to accept the resignation of Kelly Pilella from the Sparks Ward. 393 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:28,700 Second. 394 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:29,800 All those in favour? 395 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:30,740 Aye. 396 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,200 Thank you Kelly for all your service. 397 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:34,900 Yes. 398 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:45,060 All right, nine, be part 3, a point, part 4 member, Christine, play a lock. 399 00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:51,860 To move to a point, Christine, play a lock to the park's board to fill out the remainder of 400 00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:56,100 Kelly Palace term, which ends on April 1st, 227. 401 00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:56,920 Thank you. 402 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,820 All those in favor? 403 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,480 All right. 404 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,320 Congratulations, Christine. 405 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:10,980 Item 9C, the Education Committee, Item 1, appoint the Education Committee member, Melissa Brown. 406 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,020 I move to appoint Melissa Brown to the Education Committee to fill up the remainder of the time. 407 00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:18,860 And I'm 41229. 408 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Second, all those in favor? 409 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,100 Aye. 410 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:23,680 You're at Melissa? 411 00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:25,920 Aye. 412 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:32,700 90 short-term rental administrator, part one, discuss administrative fee for decline 413 00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:33,380 applications. 414 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:34,760 All right. 415 00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:40,120 I've got to be then open in front of me so that make sure I get to all well, first 416 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,140 to the highest deadline. 417 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:49,660 This, I see as a change to policy procedure, not to the ordinance itself. 418 00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:59,860 So we kept the instruction separate so that they can be modified, put this area in the office, you know. 419 00:30:02,020 --> 00:30:18,760 So, I think this fits under that heading. The idea, and this was talked about a couple of meetings by the short term working group in the spring. 420 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:31,800 The idea is to allow for a administrative fee of $150 in the case where, for in cases where 421 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:39,360 a submitted application is for some reason, denied or declined. 422 00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:48,360 What we talked about and wrote us in the first, in the spring round of policy, was that 423 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,480 somebody found us at our house, what was out of compliance. 424 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,640 They had a chance to, everybody had a chance to submit what was called compliance plan 425 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,640 within 30 days of getting the notice that the house is eligible as it is. 426 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:14,800 And what we wrote up was that in a case where that compliance plan was rejected, which 427 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,460 was sort of the end of the line for that house. 428 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:27,240 The fee of it had been paid with the refunded minus $150 to cover several hours of work. 429 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:34,100 We're talking about planning and expecting that inspection could have an inspection writing it up 430 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:38,580 and then going through the stages of evaluating the plan. 431 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:42,240 So it's, you know, it's the cover, how it touched me. 432 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,660 I think that could sensibly be a little broader. 433 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,120 In other words, if we're still on the education phase 434 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,220 and some people, you know, maybe pay their feet first 435 00:31:57,220 --> 00:31:59,240 and then get their allocation in and then 436 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,080 find out that the application was really not consistent 437 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:09,160 with, let's say, their waste water permit, you know, people are finding that they can't 438 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,500 begin to have a kind of guest volume that they thought because they have researched 439 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,680 permit, you know, maybe it came with a previous owner. And also they're just finding out 440 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:29,160 about, you know, different regulations or how the fire marshals restrict capacity in 441 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:35,920 property. Again, if there's that whole kind of a folklore of, oh, it's a ski house, you know, 442 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,880 when do people can pile in there? That's why they have to think, bro, you know, and then it 443 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,900 turns out that that doesn't mesh with Vermont-logs governing rail property. So it's fun, but it's not legal. 444 00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:50,760 Yeah. So I feel like if 445 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,500 somebody pays, let's say prematurely, and then finds out that the rental 446 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:09,140 really isn't viable, that it seems fair to return the money, but I would like one requirement 447 00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:16,540 and that is that they have not been using the house as a rental, which would be an 448 00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:22,940 ordinance violation. In other words, you know, paying does not cover or does not substitute 449 00:33:22,940 --> 00:33:30,000 for a license. And if so many pays and then finds out that the house will be, you know, 450 00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:35,680 much smaller than they lied, or that the house itself has to be remodeled or egressed 451 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:41,600 windows have to go in or a commercial fire alarm system has to go in because they want to 452 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:49,000 host ten people. These are all real scenarios that, you know, if somebody has shows them to be 453 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:58,600 compliance with the ordinance. I don't feel like the refunded application fee then has a lot of merit. 454 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,700 But if it almost turns into a fun, as opposed to, yeah, 455 00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:09,620 well then the alternative is the right of series of tickets, which is itself a very, 456 00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:23,960 So I think consistent with the working group, the working group, approve the idea of a kind 457 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,740 of no fault or a refund into the discovery phase. 458 00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:39,500 I'd like your thoughts on that and if that sounds sensible and fair, the people will 459 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:45,780 property and want to rent it here, but again, I don't want to create that, but there shouldn't 460 00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:51,940 be cover for a non-compliant rental by paying the fee, but not actually being issued 461 00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:57,880 the license because that's, the ordinance is really clear, you cannot start a rental before 462 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,980 you've been issued the license. 463 00:34:59,260 --> 00:34:59,840 So we don't go wrong. 464 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,960 Just paying the FK-100, it does not constitute the notice, yes. 465 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:12,160 I mean, I feel like some language, very clear language that says non-refundable application 466 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:18,640 V, you know, right at the top, it's going to change people's behavior, you know, people 467 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,120 are going to say, I'm not going to write this check until I know what I'm writing it for, 468 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:29,460 so you're going to hopefully read out some of the unintended fees being paid and not have 469 00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:33,360 as many to like, you know, maybe consider returning 470 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,560 because those people are going to think first 471 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,280 and write a Chinese. 472 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,260 I don't know. 473 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,240 I definitely agree with that. 474 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,480 And, I mean, I suppose you could, if you added 475 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,460 non-refundable application fee, you could put a little 476 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:54,800 asterisk or something that said, you know, 477 00:35:54,860 --> 00:35:58,640 some exclusions that plot may apply or something like that, 478 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,260 I was only trying to, you know, 479 00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:08,960 if you were adamant about the ability to do that, you 480 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,980 could maybe do that, but I agree that I would in the office and do a case by case if there 481 00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:21,940 was a situation where the person hadn't even fully engaged, you just get to get their money back 482 00:36:21,940 --> 00:36:27,880 but if it goes into processing, then the money is spent in the fees, not matured. 483 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:34,460 Yeah, yeah, I like that, and that takes us to point two, which is discuss adding non-refundable 484 00:36:34,460 --> 00:36:35,760 clause to the few scheduled. 485 00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:41,720 And remember, I come to you all a few months ago and said there's no change to the fees, 486 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:51,960 but I think adding, I'm wondering, a non-refundable clause, so that that's exactly what I'd 487 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,400 like to add. 488 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,420 so that the dollar amounts are changing, 489 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,160 but there is a chance for a kind of no fault. 490 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,320 Well, there's a refund in the very special circumstances. 491 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,820 A lot of them have not been out of compliance, 492 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160 but I think I like the fields fair to me 493 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,960 that as people are learning whether they're property, 494 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:17,700 new or old is really eligible. 495 00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:20,460 I'm happy to inspect so that people 496 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:28,100 can make that discovery, but I'm finding that somebody got colossally bad information from 497 00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:29,960 a property man. 498 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:59,980 Management firm, saying that their house would make a great rental. And in fact, the remodeling to the house to make any one of the bedrooms, we don't, was going to be a whole remod, asking them, yeah. So he bought and just, I don't want people going away feeling like they've been misled or dinged for $1,250, which is what fair enough are of these are 499 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:01,360 to the minister. 500 00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:08,740 And again, I also feel like we're still in your free work, try to educate 501 00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:14,700 public, right, and sort of get people understand what makes our mental and what makes 502 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,540 that a house not really viable rental. 503 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,800 So also, okay, well I'll revise the fee schedule that I publish 504 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:43,520 And tack on to the first time applicant forms to reflect non-refundable 150 and 505 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:54,700 the possibility of a refund of a payment in the rare case. 506 00:38:54,700 --> 00:39:04,420 You know, in the case that someone has been compliant with the audience or has not started their rental without a license, which I think is the clearest. 507 00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:06,080 That's a white and white. 508 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,000 Okay. 509 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,740 I do want to put you on your stuff for next agenda for approval. 510 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:22,960 If you, yes, if I can write the, if you want to see the document, I don't think we, do we include the few schedule? 511 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:30,680 in the packet or was it just I don't think it was in the packet yeah I think it was just 512 00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:35,980 I was trying to think of things to put in the packet for that and that didn't occur to me so 513 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:40,660 I didn't make it to the packet. How do you do that for your next meeting so we just look at that. 514 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,640 Yeah that'd be good. 515 00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:47,520 That's basically covered part one and part two there. 516 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,360 So 90, part 3, review and approve SCR appeal board members. 517 00:39:53,740 --> 00:40:03,580 Okay, so the members need to be the town clerk member of the J.P. 518 00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:13,380 A member of emergency services and a member of the DRB and a second member. 519 00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:21,380 So we have Allison as the founder of the Reane Cronin as a J.P. Paul Hennler as 520 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,020 DRB and Rich Failin as emergency services. 521 00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:30,660 So one of few three needs to be on that board. 522 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,860 I can do it. 523 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:32,140 Okay. 524 00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:42,370 Oh, the other thing is that we didn't specify a term in the 525 00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:51,850 her rentals appeals policy. So we weren't sure, like, she'd just be like a year by a year. 526 00:40:51,850 --> 00:40:56,450 A year by your basis. Maybe somebody doesn't want to do it after you do it for a year. 527 00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:02,990 Yes, although we have a hard time getting people to volunteer for this. 528 00:41:03,370 --> 00:41:04,790 For 20 years. 529 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:08,130 For as long as you're under duty, no, no, no. 530 00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:09,350 Until then, do it for me. 531 00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:16,450 So we can try from what we're bringing already, no, no, it doesn't matter. 532 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:20,210 Since it's been for sure, maybe just do it for the years and see how it goes. 533 00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:27,350 Do you have to like do it like one and two year turns to staggered? 534 00:41:28,450 --> 00:41:29,990 I don't think there is that cool thing. 535 00:41:30,310 --> 00:41:36,620 It's such an odd board that I don't, I already know I would do that. 536 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,140 Let's go from one year and see what happens. 537 00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:42,080 Yeah, that we can do because of the terms. 538 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,140 Maybe after the year we can further, like, we can adjust the terms. 539 00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:47,060 Just see who's left. 540 00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:51,040 That might be a topic for the short term working to many. 541 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,580 Yeah. 542 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,300 I, you know, I have no say in the creation of the board. 543 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,080 But from my conversations with the town attorney, 544 00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:07,460 he's used to term ad hoc, which is just to me that wouldn't be, 545 00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:17,060 It's I think that committee is assembled when it is needed. I don't feel like it should be a long term standing committee necessarily 546 00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:26,620 And if there are three or four or five appeals in the first year and then there is not a field and it's only one coming out of summer 547 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:29,440 It's essentially dissolved every time 548 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,720 Yes, it's dissolved 549 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:35,900 And maybe people are pulled back in as needed. 550 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,760 It's like a deer. 551 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,360 It functions like a DRP though. 552 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:43,980 So we need to have those people stand members for what it is. 553 00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:45,880 Is a DRP also at Hock? 554 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:46,420 No. 555 00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:50,360 Well, the DRP is a quasi-judicial order. 556 00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:52,940 But it's functioning like that. 557 00:42:54,060 --> 00:42:56,460 So I mean, it's a work. 558 00:42:56,980 --> 00:42:59,240 Checking with Bob. 559 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,420 We check out a lot of stuff on each plate. 560 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,640 We should check the Bob about it terms, but I think it'd be okay to say that, you know, 561 00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:11,860 for this for today, we'll say it's for a chair of one year and we can write this. 562 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,840 What we're trying to do is get a convene for September because there are appeals waiting. 563 00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:19,320 We can see it for your pending. 564 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120 Follow your pending lawyer review. 565 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:32,260 Okay. I moved to a point Allison Reno more in Cronin, Paul Henler, Rich Failing, and 566 00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:38,660 Lee Ann Alexander to the STR feels bored for a turn of one year pending a turn of review. 567 00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:48,600 Second, Halls in favor. All right. All right. All right. All right. 568 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,780 All right. Nine, E. Town Hall 569 00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:57,960 of each committee, part one, request for approval for Murph loan application. 570 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,540 Um, did you want to speak to what the community is doing? 571 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:06,240 Yeah, I know we were going to keep the money, you know, how we'll keep it in Murph. 572 00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:09,620 I mean, I wasn't at the meeting, so I talked about it in the conversation. 573 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,980 A little bit of an additional one to be picked up months ago. 574 00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:14,460 Yeah, come on. 575 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:14,980 Yeah. 576 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,320 So it's not to be confused Murph, uh, is going to be a problem. 577 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,700 that we have utilized for these two buildings. 578 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,400 We work with a great thing where there is a lump. 579 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,260 This particular round is zero interest. 580 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,360 Let's give you a big background, 10 years. 581 00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:38,840 So it's something that, as a form, we, for community, 582 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,840 thought would be very beneficial since we don't necessarily 583 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,600 have enough hunting to do projects. 584 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:49,280 We just, you know, don't do this. 585 00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:59,300 And he was a lot more, but so he could see the movement, the progress of the system. 586 00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:05,920 What I'm sure will be eligible, because I hope it's about to be open. 587 00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:10,440 I think that did not get hurt. Right. First, let's play a while ago, too. 588 00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:18,820 I'm so excited. So, it's an attempt to lock in your response, which seems pertinent to us. 589 00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:22,500 We will continually be trying to work on the so-called few years. 590 00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:31,130 And it's specific to be related to municipal, but energy resilience. 591 00:45:31,130 --> 00:45:37,960 So, depending on what we can't finish out of. 592 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,140 Right. 593 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:43,520 We're looking at multiple that's, but, well, 594 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,840 it's a one of the national representatives. 595 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:52,750 Yeah, so, at the last time that this was brought up 596 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:55,530 the second word, what I did a number from the committee 597 00:45:55,530 --> 00:45:58,150 and a specific proposal. 598 00:45:58,950 --> 00:46:01,690 That doesn't sign that actually came out of the committee. 599 00:46:02,750 --> 00:46:09,690 One thing I also needed was how much I have in the work money to how much we have left. 600 00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:17,690 Yeah, I can have a conversation with you offline because it's a constantly evolving number. 601 00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:20,370 Why? 602 00:46:20,650 --> 00:46:29,710 Of course I'm absolutely good, but that was a while ago that I was talking about that. 603 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,960 So it sounds to me like a little premature for this particular evening. 604 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,780 I mean on the day in 2015, because it's a zero interest loan that we don't have to use. 605 00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:46,680 Eat truth? 606 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,540 I don't believe it. 607 00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:49,980 Do you want me to point me that pitch? 608 00:46:50,220 --> 00:46:58,240 I mean otherwise we're going to, I think we've got to put out the quotes that will change by the time we actually get to those projects. 609 00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:06,940 I mean, unless you could say that you really would only need 100,000, then we don't know. 610 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:11,200 So I didn't look forward to the day that we're close enough to say that. 611 00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:12,720 We're not quite there. 612 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,360 We're going to go ahead and go ahead and 613 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:16,920 go ahead. 614 00:47:17,340 --> 00:47:22,260 We dropped off from the GC conversation a little bit. 615 00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:31,040 we already dropped off the NDA bathroom, those projects that we're focusing on right now. 616 00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:35,720 We have to touch the finished states that we have to touch the foundation of the finished 617 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:43,800 states that the NDA bathroom down there, the exterior and building, sighting paint, 618 00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:54,220 all these 619 00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:59,360 and they can't do vacations from births go until I read you. 620 00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:02,900 Well, I believe we haven't till the end of the year. 621 00:48:03,260 --> 00:48:05,680 And like he said, there's no guaranteed we would get it, 622 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,000 because we already got our funding. 623 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,260 And it is a revolving loan fund, 624 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,220 so there have been other towns that have applied for the funds. 625 00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:16,200 And that fund is depleted, 626 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,320 and they won't open it back up until they've been repaid. 627 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:26,660 And so, I'm trying to find that, you know, it was kind of a topic since it isn't 628 00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:31,640 doing a lot of time to apply, we could at least do that, if we were awarded, then we 629 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,880 could make the decision if we were going to go forward, because they were not going to 630 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,880 come in, just because we get sure of course. 631 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:38,880 That's true. 632 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:39,660 That's reasonable. 633 00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:47,420 So in that case, if you're a member, just make a motion to approve the town hall renovation 634 00:48:47,420 --> 00:49:00,600 committee to apply for the, yeah, take the wording for two and change the grant name to a loan. 635 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:14,060 I'm going to approve the Title Innovation Committee to apply for a Murph loan with the caveat that in fear or 636 00:49:14,060 --> 00:49:21,100 fruit you come back to us like born with for the final decision yep that he's done 637 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:21,880 dollars 638 00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:36,580 whoop second all those in favor all right I don't let's see so it's 639 00:49:36,580 --> 00:49:40,060 one two two nine here one 640 00:49:40,060 --> 00:49:48,500 nine E three E two E two there's a different way okay I need to request 641 00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:50,800 for approval to apply for additional grants? 642 00:49:54,490 --> 00:49:54,710 Yes. 643 00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:56,990 So that was a bear for sale. 644 00:49:58,430 --> 00:50:01,610 So if you want to speak to the grant that you can find, 645 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:03,290 for the best. 646 00:50:04,650 --> 00:50:07,850 So the Vermont Community Development Program offers 647 00:50:07,850 --> 00:50:11,750 two municipalities, ABAA upgrades. 648 00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:16,190 And it's, I think, 5,250,000 dollars. 649 00:50:16,450 --> 00:50:17,810 You kind of qualify for. 650 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:32,030 So, continuing, we'd love to add an A-A family on the first floor where we could use that as what we're trying to get on people and other smaller A-A improvements. 651 00:50:32,990 --> 00:50:39,690 It's a town thing, so the town has to apply to the work of the grant administrators of the program. 652 00:50:40,670 --> 00:50:45,630 They usually only do like three brands per year, and more than half of it. 653 00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:47,170 Because that is even convenient for that. 654 00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:48,530 It's used up very quickly. 655 00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:51,410 And the only thing I know this is I want to work. 656 00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:58,190 So I think it'll be worthwhile for the town to try, because you know, I can't cover everything with the guns that we have. 657 00:50:58,190 --> 00:51:03,170 And then we can get some additional funding to do more 80A upgrades on the feed rate. 658 00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:04,310 And there's no match. 659 00:51:06,510 --> 00:51:12,790 I don't think there's a match, but I think I'm going to demonstrate what you're contributing to the project, 660 00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:17,470 and we can certainly demonstrate that because it's so that it could be in kind. 661 00:51:17,890 --> 00:51:19,290 Yep. Okay. 662 00:51:19,290 --> 00:51:23,170 Four funds will be very important to it for me to tell about this. 663 00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:24,230 Oh, okay. 664 00:51:27,210 --> 00:51:33,930 But the nice step would be contact the grant administrators and work with one of them on the subject. 665 00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:37,510 It would have to come through the town, but we're willing to go. 666 00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:40,150 If you would like to fill out the epic things, I think it's fine. 667 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:41,030 I think it's fine. 668 00:51:42,050 --> 00:51:42,390 I think it's fine. 669 00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:45,190 But don't get it. 670 00:51:47,810 --> 00:51:50,570 I think that's the best step. 671 00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:03,510 And we're also exploring a couple of other grants that are active through the remote 672 00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:06,070 and help her with, 673 00:52:06,070 --> 00:52:07,870 because E прек hour notice. 674 00:52:10,010 --> 00:52:11,230 So, I'm the American motion. 675 00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:13,630 I was theleeper, and I'm bringing a team committee 676 00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:15,330 application to the Vermont Team to develop 677 00:52:15,330 --> 00:52:17,810 and program accessibility, modification grant, 678 00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:19,090 and also I suppose, most is here. 679 00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:20,010 This is the University of Newcastle, 680 00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:21,850 and the Supreme Court of the Skylands. 681 00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:25,710 Say, all of those on, all of them are favorite? 682 00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:27,050 All right. 683 00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:28,470 All right. 684 00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:36,820 So, my e-part three review and approve town hall to conduct track to your services proposal. 685 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,420 So, we got one. This is in the second attempt. 686 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,720 This is the second attempt. 687 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:59,700 So, we got one from Hunter and the town administration committee to recommend the support except the proposal by Hunter excavating 688 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:07,640 and the amount, well, the amount, so there's different, it's broken up in a different 689 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:08,580 projects, 690 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,880 so you could accept all of them or, you know, some certain ones. 691 00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:21,660 My recommendation is to accept all of it and then we can have conversations with Hunter about 692 00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:24,860 what's actually doable with the funds that we actually have. 693 00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:34,180 So it's full of how it's 284771. 694 00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:48,600 So clearly the concept of bidding apples to apples on, we went into this previously thinking that there was some discrepancy in that. 695 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,080 It was a... so... it was a... 696 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,180 It was a... 697 00:53:52,180 --> 00:53:53,140 So the number... 698 00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:58,560 So how did you get the right version of the plans and they... 699 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,940 They pulled out and... 700 00:54:00,940 --> 00:54:02,860 He had one and... 701 00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:04,340 Then they didn't do the second time. 702 00:54:04,420 --> 00:54:05,840 They didn't do the second time. 703 00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,600 I was hoping that they would... 704 00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:12,600 They decided, like, is it probably the second time that it was too much for... 705 00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:18,580 So... 706 00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:24,900 much we stripped out, it can't remember what we stripped out. The ADA bathroom and also the clarified 707 00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:32,020 that the entrance, no the beer door would not have the canopy rebuilt because there was a 708 00:54:32,020 --> 00:54:38,760 question as to what if the companies were bidding on the same thing there. So hopefully it was more fair 709 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:49,440 and well the clarification certainly had an impact on the numbers. Yeah, must have 710 00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:51,060 Yes. 711 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:51,200 Yes. 712 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,720 That's the details of that here. 713 00:55:00,790 --> 00:55:01,110 Yeah. 714 00:55:01,490 --> 00:55:03,430 Can you give me a discussion on the moves too? 715 00:55:03,850 --> 00:55:04,970 The moves is separate. 716 00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:06,010 The moves is separate. 717 00:55:06,010 --> 00:55:06,890 The moves actually get in the contract. 718 00:55:07,050 --> 00:55:07,870 Is that a contract? 719 00:55:07,870 --> 00:55:08,270 Perfect. 720 00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:09,210 It was already done that. 721 00:55:09,490 --> 00:55:11,170 Just make a share because I just saw it instantly. 722 00:55:11,470 --> 00:55:11,750 Yeah. 723 00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:13,230 Make sure that moves. 724 00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:13,710 Yeah, yeah. 725 00:55:13,710 --> 00:55:14,310 It's hard to get in the contract. 726 00:55:15,370 --> 00:55:15,850 Yeah. 727 00:55:17,310 --> 00:55:17,490 Yeah. 728 00:55:17,850 --> 00:55:19,890 It was pretty, it was pretty a slate too. 729 00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:22,870 So there's not that many people in the state that do that anymore. 730 00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:27,890 So, but we did finally find somebody and contracted with them and one of them they tell me. 731 00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:29,830 I'll see what I do. 732 00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:30,350 Yeah. 733 00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:30,830 Perfect. 734 00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:35,610 I was like my main, I was like one of my main concerns in the building. 735 00:55:36,690 --> 00:55:37,070 Yeah. 736 00:55:37,070 --> 00:55:39,190 I think the most people have been seeing me. 737 00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:42,350 I said that was like one of my main concerns about the building. 738 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:43,570 So, yeah. 739 00:55:43,790 --> 00:55:45,490 I'd like to hear that you're able to find somebody. 740 00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:47,850 I'll see you back before we put a bunch of situations. 741 00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:48,630 Yeah. 742 00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:52,050 What's the term for this? 743 00:55:53,470 --> 00:55:57,270 Like if we're not going to get to a lot of this work, money. 744 00:55:58,950 --> 00:56:02,970 This is pretty close to what we have left over 745 00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:05,770 and then with the town renovation. 746 00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:12,270 But that's what I meant by we could have, 747 00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:21,210 It's just what's going on here, according to what we have and if we have to wait until next July, 748 00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:23,440 we can work with them to do that. 749 00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:28,240 Is it going to be able to make the motion? 750 00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:32,840 I'm moved to a second proposal from Hunter to provide general contractor services as 751 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,600 made to cost $284,701. 752 00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:42,700 and to upwards the temperature and the heat to need out the minutes necessary for the 753 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:44,780 higher level of the temperature to be better and necessary. 754 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,280 Second, all those in favor? 755 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,600 All right. 756 00:56:50,660 --> 00:56:50,880 All right. 757 00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:52,320 That's good. 758 00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,000 Item 10, 10 A, transfer station-solid waste management updates. 759 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,760 So, I don't have any, so it's usually times per view. 760 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:15,700 So, go to the 11 old business, 11 A, review and approve updated by Tinerant Vendor 761 00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:16,260 ordinance. 762 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:16,760 Okay. 763 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:23,840 So, I also mentioned that you don't approve it today, but this will didn't get to review it. 764 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,880 And he's suggesting we take it to the layer, which is probably a bit of a guess. 765 00:57:28,060 --> 00:57:28,360 All right. 766 00:57:28,540 --> 00:57:29,640 So, put it off to the next. 767 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:36,160 Yeah, but I do want to just point up what I did here because I didn't redline it. 768 00:57:36,460 --> 00:57:40,040 I thought about redlining it after I started editing it. 769 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,360 What did you do there? 770 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:41,920 22. 771 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,920 So, basically, I was trying to streamline the process a little bit so that 772 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,500 I turn it and vendors can come and go with having to wait too much for this like 773 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,440 And having Will do, I don't know if there's anything else in the picture. 774 00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:06,440 No, no, no. Sorry, I've got my paper shuffled over here. 775 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:07,860 Sorry. 776 00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:21,100 So having Will be the person, the point person for this makes a lot of sense because he does this kind of thing in the course of zoning permits. 777 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:31,080 So, mainly what I did was I took out the select boards, the need to the select board to approve it. 778 00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:36,680 So, the select board is just delegating out authority to your appointee as well. 779 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:44,960 And then the other thing that we did was streamline it for a place. 780 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:52,500 So basically, basically right now, every single item 781 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,700 in a vendor has to fill up the permit. 782 00:58:57,220 --> 00:59:00,340 And generally, there's parked at a certain space right. 783 00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:03,460 So they're at the coffee bar, they're at the farmer's market. 784 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,460 They don't tend to move around town that way. 785 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,240 So I expanded it so that the owner of the property 786 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:20,140 can make one blanket permit and then have it first say like the summer for the cotton you 787 00:59:20,740 --> 00:59:27,100 know what I call food truck Fridays. So you're leaving a location instead of the specific 788 00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:32,840 value. Yeah and then also you know then it doesn't ding the internet vendors because if they're 789 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:38,080 getting dinged $25 at every single town that they go through it doesn't incentivizes them to come to 790 00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:45,300 So that's that. The only other question I had was whether we wanted to up the fee right now it's 791 00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:50,160 twenty five dollars per application. The fee is really just, you know, it's an administrative fee 792 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,800 right, so it should pay for Will's time. I don't know if that pays for Will's time. It's 793 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,320 would have to ask him. But. Okay, because I'll never be like one for the whole. Yeah. 794 00:59:58,420 --> 00:59:59,880 You don't even have to go. 795 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,340 How do you like a site visit, right? 796 01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:07,140 Yeah, I don't like, I don't have that conversation at all, then we can, we can address that too, and make some meaning. 797 01:00:07,740 --> 01:00:11,440 Yeah, see how much she feels, like it's reasonable, yeah. So, 798 01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:20,000 Excuse me, since she's the one doing the work. Yeah, so hopefully we'll get clarity from well and from Bob for the next meeting. 799 01:00:20,180 --> 01:00:24,940 And then we can, but it is an ordinance, so it's, you know, it's got that force of law. 800 01:00:25,180 --> 01:00:28,660 So if we want to, we want to make sure it's right. 801 01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:29,860 Yeah, okay. 802 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:31,600 All right. 803 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,260 So let me move that to next. 804 01:00:35,220 --> 01:00:39,040 So let me just let's do 11B review and approve updated. 805 01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:40,720 I turn off vendor permit application. 806 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,020 So we don't have one because we have an approved review. 807 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,160 And so yeah, so we should take that off to. 808 01:00:47,460 --> 01:00:49,260 Okay, so let's go. 809 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,300 I don't know. 810 01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:55,660 New business part A review and approve mind-shrapping and ceiling of town office parking lot. 811 01:00:55,660 --> 01:00:56,140 Okay, 812 01:01:00,220 --> 01:01:03,000 so Tina got, not Tina, Ali got it close. 813 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:05,740 Sorry for calling Tina for some of you. 814 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,500 She appreciates it too. 815 01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:11,980 So, I kind of wrote a quote from the Vance of Haven Managed Services. 816 01:01:12,260 --> 01:01:13,920 This is the same person who did this striping, 817 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,740 the way mine striping on Tom Siburg Road. 818 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,760 And another wrote that for you. 819 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,020 What's in the book of Smiltown. 820 01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:25,840 Anyway, and he also did this striping for the parking lot. 821 01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:34,640 So the way this works is the first quote is just striping. 822 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,920 So the 850 would be just me striping the parking lot. 823 01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:44,480 But he recommends that we also have a seal code if it's in the last one. 824 01:01:44,660 --> 01:01:46,540 For some reason he couldn't seal code it. 825 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,820 But first time he did it, I'm assuming because the pavement was new. 826 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,580 I don't really, I don't know my shape. 827 01:01:51,580 --> 01:01:58,680 I don't know why you could do it that but it just lets you know keeps the pain for longer 828 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:08,380 but obviously it's more expensive so the Tina have any comment on funding probably like that 829 01:02:08,380 --> 01:02:12,520 She says we didn't have money in the budget that's what she says. 830 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:18,180 Well she was so kind and I'm sure if we could so but she did say that you know this is this was 831 01:02:18,180 --> 01:02:20,160 budgeted for. 832 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,080 And the lies look pretty good right now I think I think the 833 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,000 concern is that you know by next spring they're going to be not so awesome. 834 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:35,900 Would it make sense since we're only a few months from budgeting to budget for next year? 835 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,900 I think that's worth it. I think more sense to do that than to try to get 836 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:58,420 I mean, you can still see the lines and I mean, not to put off maintenance of our new stuff because I do think it's important, but I think if it's not budgeted and we're getting to budgeted. 837 01:02:58,420 --> 01:02:59,540 We don't have one more. 838 01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:04,840 We can also just strike it and then do the full seal code next year as well. 839 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:11,260 We have to just do everything next year at same time if we have the budget for we can budget for the 4350 840 01:03:11,260 --> 01:03:12,940 Yeah, I agree 841 01:03:12,940 --> 01:03:14,860 It's set over between 842 01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:15,860 thousand 500 843 01:03:15,860 --> 01:03:23,740 So they're talking yeah everything is included it's very confusing with it. I eat it this but everything is included in the 335 844 01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:25,660 better 845 01:03:25,660 --> 01:03:27,780 I think we can budget it for next one 846 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,940 That is that 847 01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:33,860 All right, so 12 b 848 01:03:33,860 --> 01:03:36,760 Review on a proof, town garage, shed, roof change orders. 849 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:46,650 OK, so this was one of them is, one is just to fix the roof. 850 01:03:46,750 --> 01:03:51,170 I took the roof needs to be fixed, so that I didn't fix or it needs to be replaced. 851 01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:57,210 Well, what I think that would happen to the original was that the screws needed to be replaced? 852 01:03:58,630 --> 01:04:05,150 And it turned out that the cost of replacing the screws was more than half of what it was. 853 01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:08,850 to just replace the whole roof, because you're essentially taking it off and putting it back 854 01:04:08,850 --> 01:04:13,750 on, or taking the screws out and putting new screws in, but still the cost of the metal 855 01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:18,750 was pretty minimal compared to the overall project. 856 01:04:19,850 --> 01:04:27,110 So the difference being, too, that old metal was nailed, and the new metal would probably 857 01:04:27,110 --> 01:04:36,400 use screw type flash fasteners and not that it's an important factor for this discussion 858 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,780 maybe but the difference being that when you nail the top of the ridge and when you screw 859 01:04:41,780 --> 01:04:49,860 you nail in the flat so replacing the nails you have to do it in the same spot which is 860 01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:54,020 not the factor you recommended location and it becomes like that. 861 01:04:54,020 --> 01:05:02,840 It's not terrible, it's the fascinating failure that kind of brought the conversation up. 862 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,760 So when Josh asked me about it because he was talking about the guys that were working on it, you know, he said, 863 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,240 it makes sense to just redo it. 864 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,660 Do that, and I agree with the experience. 865 01:05:16,540 --> 01:05:20,880 Yeah, and that covers the cost of the metal and the new screws. 866 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:30,880 And I don't think that's a big change for the value of what you'd get. 867 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,320 Oh, you're the ultimate motion. 868 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,940 So if you're going with the full, we'll be able to play some 1,000 times. 869 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,500 The difference, well, the change order difference is 5,000. 870 01:05:45,380 --> 01:05:45,960 I 871 01:05:49,030 --> 01:05:50,270 don't prefer the change order. 872 01:05:50,270 --> 01:05:56,390 Just a town garage, shed or prepare me about not to exceed $5,800 and $18,000, and the author 873 01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:58,730 is allowed to mention your sign on behalf of them. 874 01:05:59,410 --> 01:06:01,150 Second, all of those are favourable. 875 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,440 Item 13 executive session. 876 01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:16,250 So is this the addition? 877 01:06:16,510 --> 01:06:16,670 Yes. 878 01:06:16,670 --> 01:06:17,410 Well, this is different. 879 01:06:17,850 --> 01:06:17,950 Let's see. 880 01:06:18,010 --> 01:06:18,790 That's the addition. 881 01:06:19,230 --> 01:06:20,330 So we're going to do it in two parts. 882 01:06:20,730 --> 01:06:21,390 Let's say. 883 01:06:21,590 --> 01:06:21,930 How do we go? 884 01:06:22,450 --> 01:06:22,910 Yep. 885 01:06:22,910 --> 01:06:27,270 I moved to find that premature general public knowledge of confidential attorney 886 01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:30,790 client privilege will clearly place the town that the board or person 887 01:06:30,790 --> 01:06:33,890 involved in a substantial disadvantage by revealing negotiating. 888 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:36,820 A second. 889 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,500 All is in favour? 890 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:47,760 I moved that the board entered executive session pursuant to 1 VSA Section 313A1F 891 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,440 confidential attorney client communications made for the purpose of providing 892 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,020 professional legal services to the body and invite the tenant in the store to join the session. 893 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:57,280 Okay. 894 01:06:57,940 --> 01:06:58,580 I was a favor. 895 01:06:59,120 --> 01:06:59,320 Bye.