1 00:00:01,964 --> 00:00:02,720 [music] 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,880 >> You are watching Access LaPorte County 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Channel 97. Coming up next is the August 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,825 12th meeting for the Long Beach Board of 5 00:00:09,825 --> 00:00:11,680 [music] Zoning Appeals. You can find 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,480 more information for this meeting by 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,410 visiting www.accesslaportecounty.org. 8 00:00:14,410 --> 00:00:21,910 [music] 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360 » I call the Board uh 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,720 of Zoning Appeals meeting to order. 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,800 Um 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,080 Meg, can you call the roll? 13 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,680 >> Sure. 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Uh 15 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,200 Seth McCormick? 16 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,440 >> Here. 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,800 >> Charlie Goodall? 18 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,800 John Mingle? 19 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,040 >> Here. 20 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,480 >> Fred Woods is absent and Bob LaMee is 21 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:47,200 absent. Or is anybody on Zoom? 22 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,960 And then Attorney Willoughby is here. 23 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,000 And that concludes roll. 24 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,960 >> Okay. 25 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Can we all stand for the Pledge of 26 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,350 Allegiance? 27 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,120 » Okay. 28 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,000 >> I pledge allegiance 29 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,040 >> to the flag of the United States of 30 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,000 America, and to the republic for which 31 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,640 it stands, one nation under God, 32 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,480 indivisible, with liberty and justice 33 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:19,790 for all. 34 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,400 » Okay, for for old business, 35 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,520 um 36 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,360 we have uh consideration of the written 37 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,200 findings and facts for the public 38 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,880 hearing on the William and Mary Buckley 39 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,800 2011 Juneway 40 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,520 uh drive petition that was granted last 41 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,120 meeting. 42 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Um I'll open the floor to discussion 43 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,760 about uh 44 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,920 >> Do you want to approve minutes real 45 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,000 quick? 46 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,240 >> Did I skip that? 47 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,480 >> Yeah. 48 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,400 >> I think 49 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,120 >> Sorry to interrupt. 50 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,400 >> read my own agenda. 51 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,600 >> I move to approve minutes of last month. 52 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,040 >> I second it. 53 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,640 >> All in favor say I. I. 54 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,280 >> So it passes. 55 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,680 Now on to old business. 56 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,240 So again, um I'll open the floor to 57 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,040 discussion regarding 58 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,320 um the findings and facts as proposed. 59 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Um and if anybody have has any changes 60 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,760 or or wants to make a motion to approve, 61 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,200 we can we can go from there. 62 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,400 Did Did every Does everybody have a copy 63 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,590 of 64 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,840 » I I can go print them if you need them. 65 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,240 >> Here. You guys have them in like 66 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:25,959 >> I 67 00:02:25,959 --> 00:02:27,400 >> They were circu- They were circulated by 68 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,600 email, I think earlier today. 69 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,200 >> Would you like the hard copy? Does 70 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,400 anybody need it? 71 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,440 >> Yeah. Here. Well 72 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,880 >> You were able to look at it? 73 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,200 >> Yeah, you can read this one. I've read 74 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,520 it. 75 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,000 >> Oh. 76 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,560 >> And Charlie can read that one. 77 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,200 >> Okay. 78 00:02:40,200 --> 00:03:45,030 >> So we'll take a second. 79 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Okay. 80 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,840 >> Pretty much as we discussed last 81 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,280 >> I agree. 82 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,000 >> last month, right? 83 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 >> Okay. 84 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,160 So I'll I'll uh entertain a motion to 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,160 approve um um 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,560 these findings and decisions. 87 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,080 >> Second. 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,120 >> All in favor say aye. 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,320 >> Aye. 90 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,640 >> Okay, so we'll need to sign that 91 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,120 original copy 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,560 um 93 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,880 before you leave. And so, that we can 94 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,640 get it to uh 95 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,400 the petitioners and so they can take it 96 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,310 to the building commission. 97 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:21,069 All right. 98 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:25,280 So, now moving on, we have um 99 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,280 the preliminary hearing um for John 100 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:31,360 Smith at 1701 Story Avenue. 101 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Um Meg, would you like to read the um 102 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 the summary of the of the of the of the 103 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,070 petition into the record. 104 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,360 » John Smith, 1701 Story use and 105 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,800 development standard variance petition 106 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,000 requesting variance from the 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 requirements of section 154.052, 108 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,919 construction and location standards for 109 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:54,200 accessory uses and structures, and 110 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,000 section 154.057, 111 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,440 schedule of district regulations 112 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,600 for setback height, zoning lot size, and 113 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 coverage. Petitioners seeking to replace 114 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,800 an existing shed and lean-to. 115 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,520 And the preliminary hearing is set to 116 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,919 open this evening. 117 00:05:09,919 --> 00:05:12,160 >> Sorry. 118 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,120 >> For the record, Fred Woods is now in 119 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,200 attendance, and I didn't include a 120 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,360 building representative, Joyce Schmidt, 121 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,919 in the original roll call either, who is 122 00:05:20,919 --> 00:05:25,310 also present in the audience. 123 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,000 So, I'll hand it back to you, Seth. 124 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,200 >> Okay. 125 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,320 So, how this works is it's a little 126 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,560 weird of setup. You have to go up to the 127 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,480 podium. Um you have to and you're you're 128 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,400 the builder, right? 129 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,760 >> Yes. 130 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,360 >> Okay. So, just state your name. Um are 131 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,760 you the are you the one presenting? 132 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,360 Are you the one going to give kind of 133 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:48,030 like Okay. Uh 134 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:57,910 Mhm. Okay. 135 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,440 So, what you'll have to do is 136 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,000 you'll have to go up to the podium and 137 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,280 then you'll just state your name and 138 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:03,920 your address 139 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,840 and then the floor is yours in terms of 140 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,560 the presentation and then after he's 141 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,840 finished you can go up there and just 142 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,400 state your name 143 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,880 and we'll go from there. Okay? And you 144 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,320 have to push 145 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,840 there's a little button at the base here 146 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,760 that says push and a little green light 147 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,760 should come on 148 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,240 to make sure your microphone's on that 149 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:27,030 way that record is 150 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:27,880 the bar 151 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,760 >> It's the long bottom. 152 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,560 >> It's a bar that goes across the bottom. 153 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Oh, I got it. Okay. There you go. 154 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,600 Am I live? 155 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,880 We don't know. 156 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,080 But but I the Zoom people may know. 157 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,919 Okay, green light? 158 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:45,480 That's green light. Then you're then 159 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,040 it's on. 160 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,440 >> And you're Okay, great. There you go. 161 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,240 >> Thanks. Yeah, no, I appreciate you all 162 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,120 coming to the tonight. 163 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,560 I hope you had power and 164 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,000 didn't have big trees down like a lot of 165 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,760 people in our neighborhood. 166 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,640 And I want to thank Larry Wall in 167 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,360 particular for 168 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,640 his guidance early on in this petition 169 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,560 or 170 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,480 what do I call it a 171 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,320 request. 172 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,360 >> Mhm. 173 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,000 >> Uh 174 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,960 He came to the house and gave a lot of 175 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,600 good advice and Meg was really helpful 176 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,680 in digging out papers for us and 177 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,680 appreciate all of them. 178 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Um 179 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,240 So, I'll give you some background 180 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,000 information 181 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,720 and then 182 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,960 uh 183 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,320 I'll show how our topography 184 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,360 lot topography dictates where the garage 185 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,240 must be placed. 186 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,560 And 187 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,240 finally I'll explain why the garage is 188 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,160 necessary. Then Bob 189 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Bartel will get up and show you the 190 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,600 drawings and whatever 191 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 of the plans. 192 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,480 So, we're at 1701 Story Avenue in Long 193 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,880 Beach. 194 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Uh Story Avenue, even though it's an 195 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,560 avenue, only has four homes. 196 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,240 And ours is one of them. Our house was 197 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,000 built in 1941. 198 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 It's a split log 199 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,200 uh cabin that we just love. 200 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:16,150 And and uh 201 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,280 So, I just want You guys may have 202 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,600 already a copy of this survey. 203 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 I see some of you have them. 204 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,360 But 205 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,040 Did everybody get one? 206 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Okay, so you can see that 207 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,390 uh 208 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,640 I don't know if 209 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Okay, so you can see our house. 210 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,280 It's in 211 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,960 This guy here is the current shed. 212 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:43,680 But 213 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,560 And it's all in the back. 214 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:49,200 Like I told you guys earlier. 215 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Uh are the um 216 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,200 dunes that's behind us. I mean, it's 217 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,800 pretty, but it's quite fast rising. 218 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,600 And even though we have We have 219 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,480 basically two lots. 220 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,440 There's a lot of width here, 221 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,640 but not depth. 222 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,240 So, that's why we're limited to 223 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,240 basically where the shed is 224 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,880 uh to to put a garage. 225 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,120 And 226 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,080 uh our plan is to replace the shed with 227 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,910 the garage. 228 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,880 The shed's been there for a number of 229 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,080 years. 230 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:37,030 Okay, so you guys have all that stuff. 231 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,150 I got some notes here. Sorry. 232 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,640 Okay. Now, as to why we need the garage. 233 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,320 Over the years, 234 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,960 we've weathered seemingly 235 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,320 annual 236 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,000 uh 237 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,840 dents from the uh limbs of the oak 238 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,120 trees. So, you guys all know that 239 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,880 they're very heavy 240 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 uh falling on our cars. And we just kind 241 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,280 of 242 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,680 suffer through that. But, 2 or 3 years 243 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,120 ago, we had 244 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,200 a hail storm. 245 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,440 I don't know if you remember it or not. 246 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,720 Big hail. 247 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,920 We had over $3,000 of the damage in our 248 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,560 cars. And that was the kind of the last 249 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:13,560 straw. 250 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:16,320 We realized we needed a garage. 251 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,440 That's why we're we're respectfully 252 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,240 requesting a garage building permit 253 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,840 to protect our vehicles from future 254 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,160 damage. 255 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,640 And as I said, it would be built in the 256 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 place of the existing sheds. 257 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,480 And the setback 258 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,640 You see the 259 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,720 setback of the house 260 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,160 is here. 261 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,120 And actually, the house is pretty close 262 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,760 to the road as it is. And we made sure 263 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,000 that the shed setback was the same as 264 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 the house setback. 265 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,839 And we would do that for the garage as 266 00:10:48,839 --> 00:10:51,360 well. So, it wouldn't be any closer to the 267 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:58,550 road than the existing shed. 268 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,030 And uh let's see. 269 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,400 We're going to make sure the 270 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,640 architecture of the uh garage 271 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,600 matches that of the house. So, it's 272 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,720 going to be brown split log. 273 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Uh and 274 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,480 as such, we think it will increase the 275 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,839 value of our 276 00:11:16,839 --> 00:11:18,440 property and also our neighbors' 277 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,880 property. 278 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,960 Certainly the neighbors on Story Avenue 279 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,400 and probably others nearby. 280 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,320 It'll It'll It'll just look good. 281 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,080 And I am done. 282 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,120 Uh 283 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,720 unless you have a question of me, I'm 284 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,990 going to turn it over to Bob. 285 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,400 I think we're good. 286 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,000 >> Anyone have a question? 287 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,600 >> I just want to make sure that 288 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,320 the current setback is 15 289 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,080 on the plan. 290 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,680 >> The from what I'm reading on the plot of 291 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:53,840 the current setback of the shed is 15 ft 292 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,920 and the front and it sort of I walk by 293 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,480 it there's the entrance to the shed is 294 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,800 all So, if you're looking straight onto 295 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,360 it, it's over sort of the right. 296 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:08,950 >> Yes. Right. That would be that was me. 297 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,360 » Um, yeah, but but so the the front of 298 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,680 the garage the garage door will be 15 ft 299 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:18,000 and be directly towards Story Ave, 300 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,760 right? That's what I read read this. 301 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,720 Okay. 302 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,280 So, no different in setback, but your 303 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,040 entrance will change from the right as 304 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,040 you're looking at it. 305 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,680 >> Yes. 306 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:28,680 >> To the front. 307 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:29,320 >> Exactly. 308 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,720 >> Got it. Okay. 309 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Thank you. 310 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,520 >> You bet. Anything else? 311 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Okay, Bob. 312 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,200 >> Uh, what one more thing. Which line on 313 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,920 this 314 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,120 on the topographical portion uh, most 315 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,720 similarly represents the uh, 316 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,200 landscaping stones that are 317 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,280 >> Oh, the landscaping 318 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,710 >> Would that be this line right here? 319 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,839 No, no, no, the ones that go around 320 00:12:58,839 --> 00:13:00,440 right now they wrap around the back of 321 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,400 the uh, 322 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,080 >> Could be about right, Bob. More like 323 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,920 right here. 324 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,480 >> So, so it's in here? 325 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,120 >> Yeah. 326 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,280 >> Okay. 327 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,560 >> We'll have to dig out a little bit of 328 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:09,720 the dome 329 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,400 and we'll have a concrete wall in the 330 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,560 back so it acts as a retention wall. 331 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,240 You know, it's dressed and everything, 332 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,600 but it it it it will sit back in the 333 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,200 village. 334 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,960 >> So, those those stones you would 335 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,270 you'd lift those out of there? 336 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go up there. 337 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,680 >> Yeah, I'm sorry. 338 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:31,600 Uh 339 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,720 yes, uh it'd be 340 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,200 the elevation of the new 341 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,480 >> state your name for the record? 342 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,320 >> Oh, my name is Robert Barfell with uh 343 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,520 Chicago Renovators. 344 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,800 >> Okay. 345 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,640 >> And uh the new elevation of concrete 346 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,680 floor would be about the same elevation 347 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,520 as the existing shed. 348 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,520 Pretty much. So, it won't be up higher. 349 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,160 It's just that we're seeking uh 350 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,360 a variance for the setback cuz if we 351 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,880 were stuck with a 30-ft setback, it'd be 352 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,480 buried in the dune, you know, and we 353 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,760 just, you know, that's why we're asking 354 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,800 for a variance. 355 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,120 >> Imagine. 356 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 >> And then instead of it being a shed, 357 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,880 it's it would be a garage. 358 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,280 And stuff, so that's why we're asking 359 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,240 for this variance. 360 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,760 But it the architecture will be 361 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,920 uh matching the existing house. We'll 362 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,040 keep that continuous and everything. And 363 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,960 uh we will have We're We're not tucking 364 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,760 up uh 365 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,280 we're not past the limit of the 366 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,240 lot coverage. 367 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,720 There, I think we're at 30% 368 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,920 per that drawing that uh 369 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,880 that you that you 370 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,960 >> Is the lot coverage analysis on this 371 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,760 drawing? 372 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,680 >> Yeah. 373 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,030 It's on the 374 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,990 » 26.76% 375 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,760 You know, with with proposed patio 376 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,560 extension. 377 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,000 >> It's that 378 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,120 little square at the top of the drawing 379 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:14,870 of the site plan. 380 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,640 » Right. 381 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,320 >> Yeah. 382 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,839 yeah. No, I'm I got it. Yeah. 383 00:15:19,839 --> 00:15:22,360 >> Yeah, so so we're at 30% of the of lot 384 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,520 coverage. 385 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Not 35. 386 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,560 >> And and what does that include? 387 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,600 >> That includes our our new driveway. 388 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,560 It includes the existing residence. 389 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,840 And the garage itself. 390 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360 >> Okay. And all the patios and walkways 391 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,280 and all the landscaping 392 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,720 stones and 393 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,640 >> Right. 394 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,520 >> Yeah, cuz I mean the the lot coverage 395 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,800 calculation has to include like where 396 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,000 you have the flagstone walk 397 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,480 over here and over here. And then it 398 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,680 sounds like you're trying to I mean 399 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,520 you're not here for the new kitchen, but 400 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,920 the new kitchen has to be added into 401 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,880 that. A deck has to be added to that. 402 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,600 >> I I did that the first time. 403 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,040 >> Okay. 404 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:11,430 >> We made a presentation. 405 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:17,600 » Okay. 406 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,320 I just want to add one other thing. Uh 407 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 around the existing shed we've got a big 408 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,400 platform of stone. 409 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,800 That's all going to be gone. 410 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,920 >> Okay. 411 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Well, and I mean we're we're asking this 412 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,760 question cuz I I I don't know um when 413 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,560 the last time someone from the building 414 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,800 commission was out there, but there was 415 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,360 some concern that there would be a lot 416 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,120 coverage issue. And so, um if you're 417 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,040 here with us now 418 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,200 >> Yes. 419 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,920 >> you should be asking for I mean if 420 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,960 there's going to be a lot coverage 421 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,120 issue, you should be asking for that 422 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,480 variance now. 423 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Um because if there is a lot coverage 424 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,080 issue, let's assume we grant your 425 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,160 petition, right? 426 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:50,440 >> Yes. 427 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,880 >> And we only grant what you asked for. 428 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Um so, if there is a lot coverage 429 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,920 issue, you're going to have to come back 430 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,360 to us for that variance as well. So, 431 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,839 that's why I'm asking the question and I 432 00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:02,640 just want to make sure that you guys are 433 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,280 you know 434 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,160 >> Lot coverage is not the our problem. 435 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:05,439 >> Okay. 436 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:07,240 >> The problem is the 30-ft setback. 437 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:07,920 >> Okay. 438 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,429 >> Yeah. 439 00:17:10,439 --> 00:17:12,199 » And what's the distance from the back of 440 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:16,750 the garage to the lot line? 441 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:25,030 » Uh 442 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,560 The front of the garage is going to be 443 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,080 at 15 ft from the road. 444 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,320 >> Yeah, I got that. 445 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,240 >> the the depth of the garage is 26 ft. 446 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,160 >> Okay. 447 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,200 >> by 26. 448 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,560 >> And then from the back of the garage to 449 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,160 the 450 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,680 rear lot line is what? 451 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,280 >> Oh. 452 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Uh 453 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:51,270 you know Oh. 454 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,760 » You know the number now, but it's a long 455 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,720 ways. 456 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,200 >> At least 20 ft, but 457 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,840 >> Oh. Oh, yeah. 458 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,120 >> More than 20 ft. 459 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:00,510 >> Yeah. 460 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,600 I believe it's 40 ft. 461 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,000 >> Well, I mean if this is 48.4, then 462 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,920 that's only going to be at most 22, 463 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,360 right? 464 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:10,320 >> Yeah, this is 26. 465 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,800 >> Yeah, that's going to be So, it'd be 466 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,920 less than 22, right? 467 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,160 >> Yeah, I'm thinking it's more like 468 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,080 18 or 469 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,640 >> Yeah. 470 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,520 >> Something like that. 471 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,760 >> Yeah, you're But that's nearly straight 472 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,920 up, right? 473 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,000 >> Almost. 474 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,270 >> Yeah. 475 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,800 so uh 476 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,880 And the issue here is that that distance 477 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,200 is 478 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,840 also an issue, too. 479 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,280 >> Right. 480 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,200 >> Uh for the rear setback. 481 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Um beyond that is um there's a house up 482 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,800 there. 483 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,720 >> Right. 484 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,360 >> And that house 485 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,440 also needs to 486 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,520 not have issues over uh 487 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,840 this activity. 488 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,040 >> Right. 489 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,560 >> And it could. So, how do What's the uh 490 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,680 notion as to how you protect that house 491 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,080 while this is going on? And what will 492 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,920 you do to um actually secure the dune? 493 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,240 Are you going to Are you going to drive 494 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,240 piling? 495 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,280 >> No, we don't need to drive piling in at 496 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:06,600 all. 497 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:06,960 >> Okay. 498 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,040 >> We're we're just simply going to 499 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 excavate. I'm trying to keep the the 500 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,240 elevation floor 501 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,320 as high as we can we don't have to dig 502 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,960 out that much but we will be putting a 503 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,480 concrete wall on the on the back wall 504 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,920 and then backfilling against that so we 505 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,880 won't have erosion 506 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,800 and we'll probably end up taking taking 507 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,280 out a couple small trees 508 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,960 >> It looks like two trees got to go. 509 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,720 >> Right, in front and on the side. 510 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,480 >> Um 511 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,120 so that con rear concrete wall will that 512 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:39,280 be full height? 513 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,880 >> Yes. 514 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,360 Yeah, that'll be 515 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:44,880 about an 8-ft wall 516 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:54,510 >> minimum. 517 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Will that be taller than the garage? In 518 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,200 other words, will that go up into the 519 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,320 gable end or 520 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800 >> No, but I don't see that we need need to 521 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:19,630 do that. 522 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,760 » Have you talked [clears throat] to your 523 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,200 neighbor has have there's been 524 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,800 discussions with the neighbor above 525 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,680 about the plans? 526 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,400 >> No, we haven't made that presentation 527 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:28,840 yet. 528 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,240 >> Okay. 529 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,240 >> I thought that was what we did at the 530 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:37,070 next meeting. 531 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,760 » Will the garage have a second floor and 532 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,160 is that a living area? 533 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,040 >> Storage area. 534 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720 >> Yeah, unfinished. 535 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:51,430 Storage area. 536 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,160 » And the gable runs which way? 537 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,880 >> Uh 538 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,560 according to the plan it's going to run 539 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,280 north and south. 540 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,440 >> So parallel to the story. 541 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,960 >> Yes. 542 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,200 >> So the ridge board will go this way. 543 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,080 >> Yeah. 544 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,520 So sorry, believe you you got some 545 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,280 drawings in front of you right there Mr. 546 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Woods. 547 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,800 You can see the elevation 548 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040 there. 549 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,560 >> We haven't seen those. 550 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:49,790 >> Oh. 551 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,280 The back of the garage is elevation 552 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,000 for the contour 553 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,760 is at 640. 554 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,460 And so we are going to be 555 00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:02,480 >> [clears throat] 556 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,320 >> excuse me 557 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,550 at the elevation of 558 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,840 638 559 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:24,750 for the floor. 560 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,320 So we should have about 2 ft of concrete 561 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,800 sticking up out of that that doing it on 562 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,440 the back wall. 563 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520 And that'll be of course reinforced 564 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,040 concrete. 565 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,550 10 in wide, 8 in wide. 566 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,720 » Does this elevation just a mirror image 567 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,400 of this or 568 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,990 >> Oh, you got it. 569 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,120 I touched the east 570 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:52,280 at road. 571 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,400 >> I got tricked there as to what the 572 00:22:54,400 --> 00:23:56,670 directions were. 573 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,880 » Now, this is very very likely 16 ft. 574 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Right there. 575 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,680 >> Yeah. 576 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,600 >> It's almost exactly the same as this 577 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,560 measurement. 578 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:21,750 >> Okay. 579 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,960 I guess we're asking for front yard and 580 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,640 back yard 581 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,120 variants. 582 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,400 Is there a minimum for a back yard? 583 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,360 >> Um I'd I'd I'd have to look at the code. 584 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,440 Um I mean the the the 30 585 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,910 ft front setback is in 154. 586 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,440 052. Um 587 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,400 and then the the rear setbacks are in a 588 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,320 different part of the code. They're in 589 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,120 the appendix and I don't have a printout 590 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,990 with that with me. 591 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Do what? 592 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,230 >> 20 ft? 593 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,160 » From 594 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,880 >> the zoning district 595 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,520 residential 596 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,760 >> Okay. 597 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800 So, yeah, one we'll need to see 598 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,600 the length from the back of the garage 599 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,480 to the rear property line. 600 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,440 Um 601 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,520 and you'll you know, you'll need to ask 602 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,000 for a variance for the benefits under 20 603 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,680 ft. 604 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,640 >> Okay. 605 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,320 >> Sure. Yeah. 606 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:28,510 >> Um 607 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,120 » Well, if you 608 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,520 Yeah, if you scale the drawing, it's we're probably going to be a little 609 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,800 less than 20 ft. 610 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,600 >> Okay. 611 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,080 So, just I mean, and you know, we would permit you to like ask for that 612 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,160 variance as well. 613 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:42,480 >> Okay. 614 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,640 >> Um you'd have to you'd have to 615 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,160 essentially amend your petition. 616 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Um but there as long as you meet the 617 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,000 notice requirements, then that's 618 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,120 allowed. 619 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,000 Um so, do that work pretty quickly. Um 620 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,440 and and and then you don't you don't 621 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,240 need to submit anything. You can submit 622 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,080 an amended application, but like by the 623 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,240 public hearing, we'd want to be able to 624 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,440 see that. 625 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,680 >> Would you like to see a section with 626 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000 doing coming down and the elevations of 627 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,040 the grades there as I have? 628 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,160 >> Yeah, that that would have that would be 629 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,960 helpful. 630 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,120 >> Yeah, we can do that. Sure. 631 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:13,440 >> Okay. 632 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720 >> Seth, it needs to be prior to the public 633 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,520 hearing, 2 weeks by the deadline. 634 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,920 >> Right. The amended application would 635 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,640 need to be right. But I mean, like yeah, 636 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,200 okay. So, let's get this straight cuz I 637 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,640 may have just misspoke and I want to 638 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,080 make sure it's clear. You'd have to 639 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,560 submit the amended application at least 640 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,280 2 weeks before the public hearing. That 641 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,440 would need to contain all of the 642 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,200 documents that we're asking for. 643 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,720 >> Sure. 644 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,760 >> Um 645 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,160 you know, our you know, the evidence of 646 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,280 how far it is from the rear to the the 647 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,000 rear of the garage the proposed garage 648 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,280 to the rear of the lot line. 649 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,400 >> Okay. 650 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,400 Um and then that way we could have time 651 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,000 to review it so we could ask you again 652 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,720 questions about it if we had questions 653 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,720 at the public. 654 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,680 >> Okay. 655 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,430 >> Sure. 656 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,480 » Yeah, well 657 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,240 we'll determine that when we go out 658 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,360 there and actually measure it. 659 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,160 >> Well, I I guess I would have 660 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,600 I'm basing my comment on uh 661 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,640 Mr. Tate's drawing. 662 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,320 Tate. 663 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920 So, uh 664 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,120 Tate. Yeah. 665 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,440 to the extent that 666 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,040 he's not to scale, uh I suppose it could 667 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:35,194 be anything. 668 00:27:35,204 --> 00:27:37,590 » [clears throat] 669 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,910 » Yeah, I I saw the stakes. 670 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,110 Yeah. 671 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,040 But, you need to know that now. You you 672 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,400 don't need to know that when uh 673 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280 you start tearing things apart and say, 674 00:27:50,280 --> 00:28:01,750 "Oh, look at this." 675 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,680 » It'll be close, cuz if you're you got 48 676 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,000 and 1/2 over here, I mean 677 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,840 with the drawing, it just it looks 678 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,910 tight. 679 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,120 » I scale. 680 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,320 >> Yeah. 681 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,840 there's Yeah, there's no reason 682 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,240 for us all to debate it. They've got 683 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,080 scientific tools that can show us. So, 684 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,710 um 685 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,440 Okay. Um does anybody have any further 686 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,350 questions? 687 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:33,880 » I think somebody should review the lot 688 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,320 coverage and make sure that uh all the 689 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,920 pieces have been covered. And 690 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,720 understanding that uh 691 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,560 she made the point that 692 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,280 some of it is going to get gobbled up 693 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,000 with the the garage anyway. 694 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,360 >> Yeah. 695 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400 >> So, uh the added amount might not be 696 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,920 that big, but 697 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,680 all this stuff in here is pretty well uh 698 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000 covered even though it's uh 699 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,440 got stuff on it. Yeah. 700 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Okay. 701 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,400 >> And so you want to change the lot 702 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,400 coverage. 703 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,200 >> No, I don't want to change it. I would just want it to be 704 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,040 right. 705 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,360 >> Okay. 706 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,840 >> No, what I what I base my these 707 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,240 calculations on up here is on the 708 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,680 drawing where 709 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,440 you see that there it shows the deck 710 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,920 previously. 711 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120 We haven't they've built a kitchen on 712 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440 there and that part of their patios 713 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,440 there, so I based that on Tate's criteria. 714 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,280 >> Yeah, whatever it is, it is. I 715 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,560 >> Right, yeah. And then 716 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,720 I subtracted for the shed, the existing 717 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,640 shed. 718 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,560 >> Yeah, I get it. 719 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,520 >> We just, yeah, added, you know, the 720 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,520 difference. 721 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,800 >> Um if anything's missing, it's right 722 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,520 here, I would assume. Yeah. So that's 723 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960 that is in the 724 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:53,590 as part of the ordinance. 725 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,710 When when this 726 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,080 What does the east elevation look like 727 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,120 with uh the backdrop of the property 728 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,520 behind it? 729 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,640 >> I didn't 730 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,000 uh 731 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,960 I don't think I have the elevation 732 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,760 right. 733 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,800 >> Um 734 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,360 it's not 735 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,320 >> Maybe that east elevation somebody could 736 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080 just take some shots and put some 737 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680 reference lines on it to say Okay, this 738 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,240 is you know, top of the hill or whatever 739 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:21,720 it is. 740 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,000 >> Yeah. 741 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,120 >> This is the house behind it or 742 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,560 >> Okay. 743 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,710 >> whatever. 744 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,120 » Okay. 745 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,960 All right, so um 746 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360 we can move this onto public hearing, so 747 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,520 it can happen next month. 748 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,360 The alternative is 749 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,320 um you know, you could 750 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200 go do your homework and come back for a 751 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,240 preliminary hearing and then go to, you 752 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,680 know, go to a public hearing the 753 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,000 following month. 754 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Um, because the timetable, the 2-week 755 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,800 timetable is very real. Um, and so it, 756 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560 you know, I I will vote how we vote, 757 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,520 but, uh, 758 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,480 you know, 759 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,400 um, if you want to make that decision 760 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,720 now, I mean, I mean, if you want us to 761 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,880 start voting on whether it should go to 762 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040 public hearing, that's fine. If you want 763 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800 to postpone, you know, continue this 764 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,320 here this preliminary hearing till next 765 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,080 month to see if you need to do at make 766 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,240 any more of requests, that's fine, too. 767 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Um, 768 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,200 so we'll follow your lead on that. 769 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,000 >> No, we should be good. I I produce, uh, 770 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,760 the information 2 weeks prior to the 771 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,560 next meeting. 772 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:30,150 >> Okay. 773 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Um, the date of the public hearing, do 774 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,040 you have that? 775 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,280 >> I can look it up on my phone. 776 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,560 In a month, I believe. 777 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,160 >> It's a I mean, it's the next 778 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,560 >> It's September 9th. 779 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,440 And And Bob, you can any amended pages 780 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,120 could can be submitted. You do not need 781 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,320 to do the entire, if the drawing is 782 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,120 going to be amended at all, you would 783 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,200 resubmit that. 784 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,760 >> Okay. 785 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,280 >> And any documents, but you don't have to 786 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,520 do all of them. 787 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:55,920 >> Right. 788 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,360 >> Just any amended ones. 789 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:57,840 >> Okay. 790 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,800 >> Thanks. 791 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880 >> Yeah, so it's, you know, 29 days from 792 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,840 now. 793 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,120 >> Okay. 794 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Um, okay. 795 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,800 All right. Well, then we'll we will 796 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,080 close the preliminary unless you have 797 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,800 more you want to say. 798 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Okay. Does anybody else have any any 799 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,880 comments or questions before we discuss 800 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,990 it? 801 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,440 Okay. So, we'll close the preliminary 802 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,240 hearing and then we can have our 803 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440 discussion. We can vote to 804 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,720 um, move this on to public hearing or we 805 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,160 can, 806 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,680 um, 807 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,200 you know, request additional 808 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,750 information. 809 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,600 I say that moving on to public hearing. 810 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,440 >> Yeah. It's is a not a not a further 811 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,400 preliminary hearing. I uh 812 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,880 >> I think we actually need a little bit 813 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,120 more information. 814 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,080 >> Okay. 815 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,270 >> That's my opinion. 816 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920 » And is it Okay. And is it You would 817 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,640 propose then to delay this? Or 818 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,160 >> Yeah, come back with the rest of the information and see 819 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,320 where we're at. 820 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,960 I don't know. 821 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,440 >> Right. 822 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,440 >> Okay. 823 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760 >> Or I guess we can do it at that time, 824 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,840 too. We can move just move it ahead if 825 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,080 you want. 826 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,720 >> Well, no. I mean, I think I think this 827 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,400 is this is one of those you know, 828 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,320 scenarios where like 829 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,400 uh you know, we we do feel like we need 830 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,800 more information, right? 831 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,160 >> Um that the they have the opportunity to 832 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840 provide it to us at the before the 833 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,200 public hearing. 834 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,400 Um but then if we don't have it, then 835 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,920 we're either denying the petition 836 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,280 because we don't have the information we 837 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,760 need and it's their burden of proof to 838 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,840 establish it, or we're continuing the 839 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560 public hearing 840 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,600 so that they can provide the 841 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760 information. Um 842 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,600 so if you'd rather have you know, this 843 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,160 is really a the preliminary hearing is 844 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,160 really for them to get a preview. In my 845 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,880 view, it's to get a preview of what 846 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,280 we're going to do at the public hearing. 847 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,000 Um 848 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,760 but if if you if you're not comfortable 849 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,240 moving this to public hearing without 850 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160 the information we have, then that's our 851 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,200 I mean, that's our prerogative and 852 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,760 that's our decision. 853 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,840 >> Would I be supplying that additional 854 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400 information like 2 weeks before the 855 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,760 public hearing? 856 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,680 >> Well, that's the question, right? 857 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,120 >> right. 858 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,590 >> I got you. 859 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,000 Yeah, I mean, I think we clearly can't 860 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,800 make a 861 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,320 If this was a public hearing, we really 862 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,159 we could not make a decision right now, 863 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,000 right? 864 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,960 So, we'd be faced 865 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,430 >> kind of my thought. 866 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,760 » I I'm clear at the with the information 867 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,080 with the exception of that the back, you 868 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,000 know, setback, which we'll just find 869 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,800 out. 870 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,080 >> Right. 871 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,000 >> You know, what it whether you're going 872 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,480 to need a variance or not, that's that's 873 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,800 pretty binary. You're they're going to 874 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,760 need it or you're not. 875 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,240 >> Sure. 876 00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:33,480 >> Yeah. Um and lot coverage, which it 877 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,800 looks like you're well within limits, 878 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,879 but we we just need a a definitive 879 00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:42,760 number on. So, I'm I'm pretty clear if if but it'll be incumbent upon you to 880 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,600 make sure we get that information. 881 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,399 >> Okay. 882 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:48,879 >> Yeah, and I mean, my my thought would be 883 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,720 is if you're very confident that you can 884 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:52,679 get us this information, 885 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,360 um, I would I would 886 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,679 be okay with moving it on to public 887 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,960 hearing, but if you don't get it in on 888 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,760 time or you don't get it to us, then we 889 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,400 shouldn't move you know, we're going to 890 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,600 have to continue it. 891 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,600 >> Right. 892 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,240 To the next month or whatever. 893 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,000 Yeah, well, give just give us a chance 894 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,040 to get it 2 weeks before the public 895 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,720 hearing and 896 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,750 we'll go from there. 897 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,080 That's all right with you guys. 898 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,400 >> Well, if you set it for public hearing, 899 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,720 you have other timeline requirements for 900 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,720 the paper notice, uh, and then the 901 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,800 mailing to neighbors. 902 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,400 >> Right. 903 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,480 >> So, you've got to get all of that going 904 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:31,840 >> Right. 905 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,400 >> at at kind of the same time. 906 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,160 >> As well. 907 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,000 >> If you feel confident in that. 908 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,280 >> Yeah. 909 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,400 >> So, the 2-week deadline, that is not 910 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,760 your only, uh, deadline that you'll have 911 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,160 for the public hearing. 912 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,480 >> Okay. 913 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:49,670 >> So, just keep that in mind. 914 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,880 » John and Joan, do you you guys 915 00:35:50,880 --> 00:36:09,390 understand? 916 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:09,880 » Well, 917 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,440 >> Yeah, it's just an for a variance for 918 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,720 the for the setback for the front. 919 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:14,200 >> Right. 920 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,520 >> If your building also require and what 921 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,080 you know, that's that's one thing we can 922 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640 approve, but if you also need a setback 923 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,960 for the back, 924 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,480 >> Right. 925 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,720 >> that that doesn't come included. 926 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,760 You have to ask for both of them. 927 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,760 And if you don't ask for both and you 928 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,920 start building your garage, you're going 929 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,680 to be out of compliance. 930 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,040 >> Well, yeah, well, worse, you're not 931 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,240 going to get a permit, right? You're 932 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,360 going to be back at the building 933 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,520 commission, and they're going to deny 934 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,880 the permit because you don't have a 935 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,640 variance. 936 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,400 This is really more belts and suspenders 937 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,200 than it is anything else. 938 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,160 If it's necessary. 939 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,120 >> We're not sure. 940 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,400 >> Or we already got 941 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,280 >> Wasn't on the 942 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,920 >> It 943 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,760 doesn't show us that, but if you scale 944 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,760 off of that print, it would suggest that 945 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,920 you you need that. 946 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,280 Uh 947 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,800 the print might be not to scale. 948 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880 In which case, okay. 949 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,840 That's fine. 950 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,950 Yeah. 951 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,990 Sure it does. 952 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,440 But it's got the garage right on it. 953 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,280 It's It's got the garage right on top of 954 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,680 the old shed. 955 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,560 >> He's got the future. Yeah, proposed. 956 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,640 >> It's right. 957 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:29,000 I just did a rough math on my phone. If I could If you guys don't mind. 958 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaking [clears throat] from that that 959 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,350 outline, that's a 48.4 960 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,880 across. I just subtracted the amount of 961 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,920 the 26-ft garage, and what looks to be 962 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,560 about 3 ft of the front driveway, 963 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,440 and we're at 19 and 1/2 ft right now. 964 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,040 >> Yeah. 965 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,960 >> So, if we 966 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,880 need to make the garage 25 ft or whatever, we can do 967 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,240 that, too. 968 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,560 That would be within that 20 ft. 969 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,800 Correct? 970 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,760 >> Well, 971 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,960 whatever, you just want to ask for what you need. 972 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Sure. 973 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880 So, 974 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,280 >> But if they're saying right now that 975 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,320 they'll adjust the 976 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,400 construction details 977 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,160 based upon the rear setback. I mean, I 978 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,520 That's 979 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,920 >> Then you won't need a variance. Yeah, 980 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,080 then you won't need a Then you won't 981 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,400 need a second variance. 982 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,400 >> Right. So, we 983 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,200 >> But that's your call. 984 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,400 >> We got to be 20 ft from the rear lot 985 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:23,680 line. 986 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,960 >> Exactly. 987 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,560 >> Yeah. Okay. 988 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,000 Well, you know, I mean it sounds to me 989 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,560 like 990 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,040 that issue's not necessarily before us 991 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960 right now. The only issue before us is 992 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000 the front side back. And it sounds like 993 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,320 they either have confidence that they 994 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,960 meet the rear setback requirements or 995 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,440 they'll amend or they'll shorten the 996 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,000 garage. So, 997 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,320 um with those kind of 998 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,280 thoughts in mind, I'm I would be okay 999 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,560 with moving this forward to 1000 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,600 um 1001 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,880 a public hearing for the sole purpose of 1002 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,080 the one variance you're asking for. 1003 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,840 >> Well, there was actually two. There was 1004 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,240 154 right 107 and 1005 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,520 >> But they're both related to the correct, 1006 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,760 but they're both related to the front 1007 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,280 setback. 1008 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,760 >> Right. 1009 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,160 >> Yeah. 1010 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,080 >> And for use. 1011 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:13,190 >> Correct. Okay. Um 1012 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080 Okay. 1013 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,760 I'm not sure. 1014 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,600 I'm sorry. 1015 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,030 Okay. 1016 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,240 All right. So, I'll I'll make a motion 1017 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:27,120 to move this on to public hearing. 1018 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,960 >> I'll second it. 1019 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,800 >> All in favor say I. 1020 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,840 >> I. 1021 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,360 >> Okay. So, that's four. 1022 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,280 All right. So, we're moving on to public 1023 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,520 hearing. 1024 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,240 The public hearing will be September 9th 1025 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:39,600 at 7:00 p.m. 1026 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,040 Um I think Meg you 1027 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,280 there's the posting and advertise and 1028 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,400 mailing requirements for 1029 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,240 uh noticing the meeting to 1030 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,040 the people you know, within the radius. 1031 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,880 Um I think Meg has a packet that you can 1032 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,400 use. 1033 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,440 >> It's just in the information packet. 1034 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,720 >> Okay. 1035 00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:58,880 >> All the information. 1036 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160 >> Is So, you'll you'll have to, you know, 1037 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,800 give the green cards or proof of mailing 1038 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,040 for all of that prior to the meeting and 1039 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120 meet all the other requirements 1040 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,200 um to to to open the public meeting. 1041 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,960 Um you know, and then if you need to 1042 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,720 amend your your petition, 1043 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:15,320 you need to do it within 2 weeks of of 1044 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,280 that deadline. 1045 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,110 >> Okay. 1046 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:25,510 » Can do. 1047 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,070 » All right. So, um 1048 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,160 Public hearings are none. I'll entertain 1049 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,640 a motion to adjourn the meeting. 1050 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,800 >> So moved. 1051 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,840 >> All in favor say I. 1052 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,513 >> I. 1053 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:55,023 » [music]