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[0:00] Okay, we are on the air.
[0:03] Okay, thank you. Okay, calling to order, the meeting of the Long Hill Township Planning Board.
[0:09] For August 11th, 2026, the time is 730 or according to my watch.
[0:19] So, Madam Secretary, would you do the honors?
[0:21] Absolutely.
[0:23] Number one, call to order and stay in the compliance.
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[0:37] Number two, standard board procedures.
[0:39] Any meeting conducted by the board is a quasi judicial proceeding.
[0:43] Any questions or comments must be limited to issues that are relevant to what the board may legally consider and reaching a decision and decorum appropriate to a judicial meeting,
[0:53] or hearing must be maintained at all times.
[0:56] Number three, electronic devices.
[0:58] All in attendance are asked to mute cell phones
[1:00] or any electronic devices as to not interrupt the proceedings.
[1:03] Number four, pledge of allegiance.
[1:08] Is this to the flag?
[1:10] I mean, I just say it's America.
[1:12] I need to do the Republic for which it stands.
[1:14] One nation, another nation, another nation.
[1:16] In the digital, the liberty and justice for all.
[1:20] So number five, is the oath of office
[1:23] to Committeeman Verlesa, who is absent this evening.
[1:28] So he does send his room to see if he had to attend the meeting this evening.
[1:33] I will mark this excuse then.
[1:37] Okay, so we'll come back.
[1:44] Okay.
[1:46] Okay.
[1:46] All right.
[1:48] Okay.
[1:50] Mr. Lavender.
[1:51] President.
[1:55] The other Mr. left.
[1:58] President.
[2:00] And committee member Leslie excuse this evening. Mr. Hans.
[2:04] Mr. Lavraria.
[2:06] Mr. O'Jence. Mr. O'Palka is excuse this evening.
[2:09] Vice Chairman Jones is on his way.
[2:11] We will mark him here accordingly when he arrives.
[2:14] And Chairman Richard said.
[2:16] Here we have a call.
[2:17] Great. Thank you so much.
[2:18] Okay, getting right into our agenda this evening, the first agenda item is Master Plan Consistency Review.
[2:31] This is an ordinance that was developed by the Township Committee, ordinance number 595-26.
[2:40] I'll just read into the record the title of the ordinance here.
[2:44] bear with me. This is an ordinance of the Township of Long Hill County of Morris State of New Jersey
[2:50] amending the Township Zoning map and land use ordinance by creating a new assisted living zone
[2:57] and rezoning block 11301 locked four to permit an assisted living and memory care residents
[3:05] as a permitted primary use consistent with the township's fourth round housing element in fair
[3:12] chair plan. The township settlement agreement with the fair share housing center and the
[3:18] superior court's judgment of compliance and repose and supplementing and amending various
[3:25] sections of the township landship land use ordinance. That's a mouthful, guys.
[3:32] Okay, I'm going to turn it over to our board attorney to just provide a little bit of an overview
[3:39] and the parameters around in the scope of our work this evening.
[3:45] Okay, I know that the board recalls other ordinances that were sent recently to you for a consistency review.
[3:56] So what the board is looking at here is whether or not this ordinance is not inconsistent with the master plan as adopted by this board in 2023.
[4:08] That's our newest master plan.
[4:11] So, the Township Committee is an asking us to
[4:14] open on this ordinance or on its propriety,
[4:18] but whether or not it's not inconsistent
[4:20] with the master plan of the township.
[4:23] This ordinance is based upon an approval
[4:26] that was granted for the property that is at issue in this ordinance.
[4:31] This approval was granted a number of years ago.
[4:34] After the approval was granted,
[4:35] the units that were created in that approval were then added to the housing element of the
[4:44] master plan. So these units that we're talking about are already in the master plan.
[4:54] And right now what the township is doing is simply rezoning that parcel to make clear that
[5:03] This is what the permitted use is going to be.
[5:06] And the township entered into a consent order,
[5:10] effectively, for ending the affordable housing matter.
[5:15] And this has been memorialized in that.
[5:19] And it is already, as I said, a part of the master plan.
[5:23] And now it's being codified in the zoning ordinance, effectively.
[5:29] Great.
[5:30] Thank you.
[5:31] I just wanted to mention, so just for recollection,
[5:34] And so, our master plan was adopted in December of 2023, and the housing element was then
[5:43] subsequently adopted in June of 2025.
[5:48] So, just, again, and again, as you know, a lot to mention, the housing element is part and
[5:54] parcel to the master plan.
[5:58] Any questions with regards to this, and you've discussion?
[6:05] So just as a source of comparison, the car wash site, when we needed to adjust, when we needed to adjust, just down toward you, yeah.
[6:21] When we needed to adjust the bulk requirements for specific use, the car wash site, that's what we did.
[6:32] We took that lot and we changed the bulk standards just for that lot.
[6:38] What's the reason behind creating a new zone and not doing the same here?
[6:45] I'm just thinking what would happen if, okay, if this developer the last minute said, I'm not going through on this.
[6:53] And somebody else comes along and still meets our affordable housing commitment a lot.
[6:59] And says, all right, well, I'm not going to do affordable housing.
[7:02] I'm going to put up apartments.
[7:04] If we change the books standard for that lot, like we did for the car wash, then so be it.
[7:11] of we kind of commit ourselves to affordable housing and something happens if that doesn't come
[7:18] to fruition, it's zoned only for assisted living. So why basically are we creating a new zone,
[7:27] rather than just changing both standards?
[7:31] Well, the bulk standards have been lifted effectively from the approval that was granted for the law. So, that is being incorporated into this. And all this is, is a codification, you know, a legal codification in the ordinance of an approval that is in existence right now. It exists. And this was the basis for their settlement with, you know, with fair church or housing center.
[8:00] for the Affordable Housing Plan.
[8:02] So this is, they're simply putting this in as,
[8:05] they're making it law.
[8:07] They're making it legislation.
[8:09] They're codifying an approval that's already there
[8:12] and that made it into the housing element.
[8:14] So who's the, the Township Committee
[8:17] of who introduced this ordinance?
[8:20] And it's based upon, it's based upon that variance
[8:26] that was granted, that approval that was granted
[8:27] for this property by the son.
[8:30] And I don't know, maybe we'll let the back get up a little bit, maybe that wasn't clear.
[8:35] But the zoning board a couple of years ago, granted approval.
[8:39] And everything that you see here, that's in the ordinance, was granted by the zoning board
[8:43] to this property for this use.
[8:46] And at that point, since some of the units in this building, we're going to be dedicated
[8:54] affordable if then made it into our housing element and fair share plan as, you know, satisfying
[9:02] part of the township's affordable housing obligation. That's how it got there. So now what
[9:07] this is is a codification basically, legislation that codifies the approval as granted by the
[9:14] zoning board to ensure that this comes to fruition and that land is zoned for that, so that if
[9:22] someone were to walk away. It's still zoned for exactly what was contemplated to satisfy the
[9:29] affordable housing obligation. But as far as the use change, maybe you could address that
[9:35] part of Pam's question. If they change the use, essentially, you're saying if they decide
[9:41] to come in with apartments or something. That approval is not consistent with this ordinance,
[9:49] No, no, it's not. I mean, this is part of the settlement agreement. They signed a settlement agreement with Ferture Housing Center. It was blessed by the court, and that's what the township has to comply with. That's what the township promised to comply with in terms of what they're going to provide in this fourth round of affordable housing round. So they're trying to make this happen, you know, because it's part of the housing element already.
[10:13] Just refresh my memory in the fair share in the housing element.
[10:19] Did it specifically say first assisted living, or was it just a lot in it?
[10:24] I think it did.
[10:28] It specifically says assisted living, and it has this site because it reflects this approval that Yolanta was talking about.
[10:36] I'm just going to go through again for our benefit, for distinct district or zone as opposed to, as Pam is asking about, just the property itself, why, why there's own.
[10:54] Well, because why is it being resowned? This is something that happens a lot as a result of affordable housing settlement agreements that, as a condition, you know, have the court approved settlement.
[11:07] sites have to be resumed.
[11:10] It seemingly is the only time that a lot can be spot-sewned, but if it's being spot-sewned
[11:18] for this public purpose of to provide affordable housing, it's permissive.
[11:23] And so that is, I believe that is why the Township Committee is electing to resound this
[11:30] is most likely because of their settlement agreement and the court is making them do it.
[11:36] So could we have done the same with the car wash site?
[11:40] We did.
[11:41] It was a redevelopment plan, which if redevelopment plan is essentially takes the same
[11:48] characteristics, the same power as a zoning ordinance.
[11:53] So essentially, but it was a redevelopment, which is a whole other process, which is more
[11:59] legal spot don't it?
[12:00] But it is.
[12:01] But the effect of that redevelopment plan is just the same as
[12:05] rezoning that car wash site, not just even though we changed the
[12:09] bulk standards for the lives of the civic law, that's exactly right. And so
[12:14] just as we're doing here, it's a zone that's specific to this site,
[12:20] specifically to provide affordable housing. It's two separate circumstances. We
[12:27] arrived at the same, you know, the same result in two different ways. With this
[12:32] It was a trip before the zoning board of adjustment for a use variance and with the car wash site
[12:38] It was a trip before the planning board for a redevelopment
[12:42] So different mechanisms same results because they both
[12:48] Resulted in a rezoning this one in particular because it contains affordable housing
[12:54] No excellent question. Thank you
[12:57] Any other questions, Pam?
[12:59] Well, you got the.
[13:00] No.
[13:01] No, I think that basically was it.
[13:03] And just the, the lot number 10,
[13:05] 58.
[13:07] Isn't that the Walgreens building?
[13:11] There's two lots, right?
[13:13] That are referenced in here.
[13:15] And one of them includes the Walgreens slot.
[13:19] So that will be part of the assisted living.
[13:23] It hasn't been subdivided yet.
[13:25] As part of this approval that went to the zoning board for site plan approval in subdivision
[13:31] approval, it would be subdivided from the Walgreens site.
[13:35] It doesn't contemplate taking down that building or replacing it in any way.
[13:41] It would be subdividing a portion of that site for the creation of this, an undeveloped,
[13:48] actually I'm not sure it's undeveloped, but it would not impact the Walgreens.
[13:52] This parcel is undeveloped and there was a subdivision application for a lot line adjustment to take part of that land and add it to the rest of that land to create the assisted living facility that was contemplated in housing element.
[14:09] That's what was to happen and I think that's what this is codifying that exactly that.
[14:15] So when we have a new zoning map, it will show Walgreens as zoned a system.
[14:21] It will.
[14:22] Right. No. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yes. You're 100% correct.
[14:25] It will not show Walgreens zone for assisted living.
[14:27] It will show Walgreens zone for, I believe, the BD.
[14:30] The BD.
[14:31] But it will show this portion of that lot as whatever this zone is called.
[14:37] I keep thinking it says AI.
[14:39] It's AL.
[14:41] Yeah.
[14:42] Oh, the assisted living zone.
[14:44] Okay, that makes sense that it's going to be taken out of that.
[14:48] And there is split lot zoning occasionally, where a lot is split between two different zones.
[14:53] It happens.
[14:54] And this one will be until there's a lot line adjustment of life or again.
[14:59] Okay.
[15:00] And that will come for the lotlines, because there's no clarity when that lotline exists, or is shown anywhere.
[15:09] I think not in this ordinance, but it is in the site plan, and in the subdivision plan. So, for example, when the zoning map gets redrawn, we're very reasonable price.
[15:23] It will reflect the solution that was approved.
[15:29] Because we did not see the application, it went to the zoning board.
[15:32] It's not clear on the line of what that looks like.
[15:35] The resolution I quit looking, I didn't see it.
[15:38] It didn't have any reference to that.
[15:40] It references the site plan and subdivision drawings that were part of that.
[15:44] Yes.
[15:45] Yes.
[15:45] Yes.
[15:46] Yes.
[15:47] The concept, there was actually a site plan.
[15:49] There was a site plan.
[15:51] There wasn't a proof site plan that the board looked at and the result, the approval,
[15:58] is what's codified in here.
[15:59] That's what the board approved.
[16:01] So, I can go on the zoning board, let's just see that.
[16:04] I bet you know.
[16:05] You can call it because it's still on.
[16:07] I don't know.
[16:07] The plans are not.
[16:08] You can come to my office or I can send you the plans.
[16:10] Yeah.
[16:10] But I did look at the resolution because we did include it in with the
[16:14] professure, the hell is an element, if you look at that resolution, there's about 15 pages.
[16:20] I had quick scan through one, they just jumped out to me, there's a 43.5 feet height,
[16:26] so new from that, all we've got here is in alignment towards discuss with the zoning boards,
[16:32] so it's comfortable with that in principle, but I have not seen a lot.
[16:36] Thank you.
[16:38] That's just one stupid thing to hear.
[16:41] Just the zone district.
[16:42] They say zone district twice.
[16:44] They're doing this right this now.
[16:47] Oh, these are living zone district zone district.
[16:49] Yeah, under there for the first there for section one at the end.
[16:55] They say, at your session, living zone district, living zone district.
[17:00] And I don't see why that needs to.
[17:03] You can see what I'm looking at.
[17:04] I know what you're saying.
[17:06] Section 1 under now therefore what page the second page it's under the therefore they're in section 1 at the end
[17:16] He's has period so district. It's just somebody didn't delete it. I think that that's just a type of graphical error
[17:22] I'm just needs to delete it
[17:27] Well, which one do we want to resolve in the one when I do the resolution and send it to them tomorrow?
[17:31] So I'm sorry, where is that?
[17:34] Section one,
[17:38] under now therefore be it ordained.
[17:40] Section one?
[17:42] It says AL assisted living zone districts own district.
[17:45] Oh, OK.
[17:46] Yeah, I think it's just the same.
[17:48] Yeah, just type up.
[17:50] I'll point that out.
[17:54] OK.
[17:55] Any other questions?
[17:59] The regards to this and the other typos.
[18:01] People have noticed that we can help improve this document.
[18:05] I know this is a small typo.
[18:07] at the third where asked from the bottom on the first page it says court of new jury
[18:18] okay on the first page yes of the audience yeah the first there's three
[18:26] warehouses at the bottom it's the third one up from the bottom oh new jury
[18:30] okay jury it's a new state oh new jury new jury lot of vision what do they say leave
[18:38] the S out for savings.
[18:41] You're going to put a little bit of a state now.
[18:44] We're going to put ourselves.
[18:46] We're going to put a state.
[18:49] Okay, good catch. Anything else?
[18:52] All right, so what I'd like to propose is you'll
[18:56] want to could you frame out what we should vote on
[18:59] and then regards to the phrase theology?
[19:02] Yes, if anybody would like to make a motion,
[19:04] finding ordinance 595-26 to be not inconsistent with the master plan and I will prepare
[19:14] the resolution to be sent to the township committee's mom. Sorry Scott.
[19:19] So moved.
[19:21] A second.
[19:22] Okay.
[19:24] Mr. S. Lavender.
[19:28] Mr. Hans.
[19:29] Yes.
[19:30] Mr. J. Lavender.
[19:31] Yes.
[19:32] Mr. Lavrarium.
[19:34] Yes.
[19:34] Ms. Ogins.
[19:35] Yes, Vice Chairman Zach here.
[19:38] So Chairman Richardson.
[19:39] Yes.
[19:40] Motion carries.
[19:41] Great.
[19:41] Thank you.
[19:44] OK, I was hoping that we would delay long enough
[19:47] to bring one of our key key captains for the ordinance
[19:51] review discussion, but I think we're going to move on.
[19:56] The day that I didn't know if you would like to help
[20:00] shepherd the discussion, and then also
[20:03] our professionals can chime in with regards to the ordinances that we wanted to introduce.
[20:10] It's fine by me. I first I think small night you're going to speak before the Township Committee.
[20:17] Yes, it's just outlined and they put down a small agenda, not small agenda of the list of ordinances that have been.
[20:25] This is really our accomplishments, right?
[20:27] have been done of yet or with the Township Committee or still with this discussion with York and I think
[20:36] there's a couple more to have at the end of this agenda. I will do revising that and sending
[20:41] it to the entire world as well. Thank you. A lot of good stuff has been done as we know and
[20:50] really I think just just talk the next two items really perhaps just get those out of the way and then
[20:59] And I think there's some, I think if we wanted to discuss some of the group, there's
[21:04] just going to use ones out of the way, first of the way, first of the cost.
[21:09] Okay, so do we want to tackle the expiration of variance first, since that's the first one
[21:17] and show it up in my packet?
[21:19] And let me just back up for two seconds.
[21:21] Some of this has been not to put it back on your hand to back on the spot.
[21:24] So these are some of the things that I'm just taking a quick and keen interest in because
[21:29] these are some ones that have come up through from the zoning board or just a natural sort
[21:35] of what it's going to be quick wins to get some stuff out of the way.
[21:39] So this was going with the, and just to help with the mechanics for their, for their, as
[21:44] So if you want to talk about the variance, the exploration.
[21:53] Yes, thank you.
[21:54] So the ordinance currently contains a provision regarding the expiration of variances.
[22:03] These are variances that are obtained from the zoning board primarily.
[22:07] use variances, bulk variances, because the approvals that are granted by the planning board
[22:16] generally, site plan approvals, subdivision approvals, they have their own statutory time limitations.
[22:23] Variances do not. Variances may be limited by the municipality.
[22:30] And Long Hill saw fit to limit a variance approval to a year, previously. And after a year, the variance
[22:44] would expire unless an applicant who obtained this variance would present themselves with an application
[22:52] for an extension before the zoning board of adjustment. There were no standards or there
[22:58] no standards in the ordinance currently for the zoning board to apply to determine whether
[23:07] or not to extend the variance.
[23:09] Now generally, it's implied that the applicant has to show good cause in front of the
[23:16] zoning board, but the ordinance doesn't say that.
[23:19] And it doesn't have any limitations with regard to how many additional years,
[23:28] Can the zoning board grant and are there any other limitations?
[23:33] Oh, here's Vice Chairman Jones.
[23:35] Right.
[23:37] Right, wait, should I go on?
[23:40] We're in the middle of a discussion about expiration of variances.
[23:45] Good evening.
[23:47] Good evening.
[23:48] Good evening.
[23:48] Good evening.
[23:48] Good evening.
[23:49] Good evening.
[23:51] So what the, so what the,
[23:54] The ordinance review committee discussed first because what the ordinance had required initially was that the variance will expire unless
[24:11] actual construction or alteration have been commenced.
[24:17] So because it's sometimes difficult to get a permit, it takes a while before construction
[24:24] can actually commence.
[24:26] The ordinance review committee discussed this and decided that it would be better to extend
[24:33] that to actually obtaining a permit instead of doing actual construction or commencing the
[24:40] use.
[24:41] I mean applying for the permit.
[24:42] So I'm sorry, applying for a permit.
[24:46] So, that's the first thing that was changed is that the applicant no longer has to actually
[24:52] commence construction because that may take more than a year.
[24:55] And then that's forcing somebody to come back to the board to ask for an extension because
[24:58] they're waiting to get a permit so that they can start building.
[25:02] So what this allows is it will expire unless they apply for a permit.
[25:08] So the minute they apply for a permit, there's no expiration because they've taken action on
[25:12] it.
[25:13] The second thing that was discussed is an increase for the initial 12 months to 14 months.
[25:20] And the reason for that is because people will generally not stop, not start building, not
[25:29] not start applying for a permit until the 45 day appeal period has run.
[25:35] So, from the date of adoption and publication of a resolution of approval, anyone has 45 days to challenge the board's approval.
[25:48] And depending on how quickly the board secretary who always does her work expeditiously,
[25:55] you know, but depending on how quickly that resolution is published after adoption,
[26:02] That could take a week, so that 45 days, then stretches into a little bit longer than 45
[26:10] days, you know, sometimes up to two months, potentially.
[26:15] So the board, using that benchmark, thought that it was fair to increase the time period
[26:20] from 12 months to 14 months to account for that two month period that the applicant is
[26:26] waiting for the appeal period to end.
[26:30] So that's the reasoning for that 14 months.
[26:33] So now, if someone gets a variance,
[26:35] they now have 14 months from the date,
[26:39] the resolution is adopted.
[26:41] I think that's what we have here, right?
[26:44] From adoption of the approving resolution.
[26:47] So they have their 14 months.
[26:48] If 14 months passes, and they still haven't
[26:51] gotten their permit to start in with their use,
[26:56] or they haven't commenced the use within the 14 months,
[26:59] then they can, and of course, all of this is told
[27:06] in the event that there is a lawsuit going on,
[27:11] or there's some appeal to a court, then that time period
[27:14] is frozen for the time that the appeal is going on.
[27:18] That is true in the ordinance as it is today,
[27:21] and it will continue to be true with this ordinance
[27:25] as well. And then we added the standards, because the Board of Adjustment, you know, it's implied
[27:32] that they can approve an extension for a good cause shown, but we will actually put that
[27:37] into the ordinance.
[27:41] So now the ordinance review committee has also discussed this next
[27:45] part where I have a question where I have the question marks, and they have limited the extension
[27:51] of time beyond the 14-month limitation up to two additional years.
[27:57] So now, if an applicant is asking for an extension, the zoning board is now limited to
[28:03] allowing that extension for anything above two years.
[28:07] They have to limit it to two years, because presumably, without any limitation, an applicant
[28:13] can keep coming back to the zoning board and can keep getting extensions if there's no limitation
[28:19] in the ordinance and there has never been a limitation in the ordinance.
[28:25] So the township has a brand new master plan.
[28:29] The township is going to be adopting ordinances to implement the new master plan.
[28:34] There is a strong zoning policy in the town and the township would like for everybody to
[28:40] comply with that zoning policy and allowing someone to keep getting extensions for something
[28:46] that is not allowed in the zoning ordinance,
[28:48] just goes against the zoning policy.
[28:51] So the point is, when you come before a zoning board
[28:53] and you demonstrate that you meet the criteria
[28:56] at that time, that may not be true
[28:59] two or three years down the line.
[29:01] And that's the reason for this limitation.
[29:05] And another limitation that's added is so long
[29:08] as the zoning applicable to the applicant's property
[29:11] has not changed since the approval
[29:13] for which the extension is sought.
[29:15] So the applicant has that 14 months from getting their resolution approved until the time that they need to permit,
[29:24] if they can't manage that, and the zoning has changed since that time.
[29:30] Because remember, if they're before the zoning board, they are demonstrating the positive and negative criteria.
[29:36] Part of the negative criteria is that there is no substantial detriment to the zoning ordinance or the master plan.
[29:42] Well, if the zoning ordinance changes, how do we know, in the future, whether or not the board would have still approve that use variants?
[29:52] So this limitation is simply that if anything has changed from the time that the applicant has come to the zoning...
[30:00] Board, they can't get an extension. They should have worked on getting a permit during the time permitted. They're not going to get any extensions.
[30:08] And even if they do get extensions at this point under this ordinance, they can only get two more extensions for two years maximum.
[30:20] Well, for two years maximum or one extension for the two years it's however the zoning board wants to approach it the zoning board I mean the zoning boards hands are entitled to one year extensions
[30:30] That's generally what what happens is they'll grant one year extension and then have them go back
[30:36] But under this ordinance, it doesn't say that so the zoning board can grant a two year extension if necessary, but it's within their discretion
[30:44] Okay, there's just one-two-year extension. I thought I heard you say two-two-two-two.
[30:48] No, no, no, no, no. Two-one-year extensions were one-two-year extensions.
[30:52] Two-one-year extensions were one-two-year extensions.
[30:54] So that would be a flexibility on their part.
[30:57] Yes.
[30:57] Up to two years, how do they think about getting up into two-lots of ones?
[31:00] Yes.
[31:00] Or one-lot of two.
[31:01] Correct.
[31:02] Yes.
[31:03] Just to be clear on that,
[31:09] an extension up to two years after the 14 month.
[31:13] Correct.
[31:15] Correct.
[31:16] that's more precise wording.
[31:18] Yes, because the 14 month is the freebie.
[31:20] Because if you've got, yeah, the 14 months is the time
[31:25] within which an applicant has to work on getting their permits
[31:29] and getting their work started.
[31:31] Any months?
[31:32] Yes, the max.
[31:35] Is that consistent with other times?
[31:38] Pretty much.
[31:40] When I'm not lying.
[31:41] No, no, but it's okay to be an outlier as long
[31:44] You know, it works with your zoning policy.
[31:48] Is there an exception to the years
[31:50] that come in two and a half years
[31:54] and you want to file another extension,
[31:58] that you consider a new applicant?
[32:01] Well, you mean beyond the first,
[32:04] now you're past 38 months.
[32:05] 38 months, you're still in there,
[32:07] but you realize, you know,
[32:09] you don't want to make a change or something.
[32:11] You see, you see that.
[32:12] You see that application's going to make it,
[32:13] they're going to say they're going to build a house
[32:15] have been put a tennis court on it and they're going to put a basketball court on it and
[32:18] enough we get it.
[32:20] But they're not done the old ones.
[32:23] If they are outside of these parameters and that's why we're having this conversation right
[32:27] now, it's a new application.
[32:30] They have to come in with a new application.
[32:32] I just want to understand.
[32:35] Is there an exception process or not?
[32:37] Doesn't sound like there is?
[32:38] It becomes a new application.
[32:39] Yes.
[32:40] It becomes a brand new application that they have to go through the whole process again.
[32:45] And I mean, that's the risk you take.
[32:47] That's a risk you take, and that's the best interest of getting the development done, otherwise it's going to sell that they'll sell the property and someone that will come along and need to buy it, but build what they are originally going to put on that property or if they're going to come in and do that.
[32:59] That's exactly right. And it allows the township to control what happens, you know, it allows the township to enforce its own zoning policy because if you're not going to build what you were approved to build for three and four years.
[33:14] you know we've seen that things things changed for this for yeah and
[33:19] saying this was approved ten years ago I can't build this now and then I'm going to
[33:24] change it and I'm going to do this to the property and I'm not going to do this to
[33:28] the property. I just got a call today for a variance from 2020 for a brand new
[33:32] house and so they said can I get an extension? No, that's what we're trying to do.
[33:41] I think
[33:43] stuff not in the state is not easy so I mean we are helping the app we're helping the applicant
[33:50] reduce some of their administrative costs agree reasonably not just as blanket forever
[33:57] approval and I do like the fact that it's also taking into account that there's going to be
[34:02] changes within our master plan in the coming years and either the 10 year cycle or an
[34:12] and legacy, we'll call it a hangover.
[34:16] Right, right, an answer to that.
[34:18] Because the zoning board is still
[34:22] under the municipal land use law,
[34:24] is still empowered to deal with any question presented to it
[34:30] if it is presented with a completely unique circumstance.
[34:34] Something that happened that was absolutely not within someone's
[34:38] control, like a moratorium on something that
[34:41] heard after, you know, within the time that the applicant could still get extensions, but
[34:48] then extended beyond that time, the zoning board is still empowered to override this, they always
[34:55] are because it's a case by case of that. But it's a case by case basis. It has to be,
[35:01] I'm going to say that because in the case of the 2020, that was COVID. I can understand where things
[35:08] had 20, 20 was COVID, but 20, 21 was no longer COVID and they could have come in and got
[35:14] a permit down.
[35:15] 20, 20, 20, 20, 20.
[35:16] Well, I thought, forget, we had to sue a moratorium.
[35:19] I think they can do anything.
[35:21] Well, sadly, two of the, that particular case, they had an attorney.
[35:27] And the attorney did not inform the applicant, you know, at the time frames, yes, not.
[35:34] That's, that's an issue.
[35:36] That's their issue.
[35:37] That's their issue.
[35:38] That's their issue.
[35:39] Not ours.
[35:40] I mean, there are moratorium, and if you come to the board and you show good cause, the
[35:45] zoning board is still empowered to grant an extension beyond this if for good cause shown.
[35:52] This ordinance is establishing the parameters to give the board guidance, but the zoning
[35:57] board still has the power to answer any question about the ordinance and to make these decisions
[36:06] because it is the zoning boards decision in the first place to grant the variance, and they
[36:11] are the interpreters of the ordinance. They're empowered under their powers to interpret
[36:17] the ordinance, and they understand the master plan, as well as the planning board does, and
[36:23] how to apply it, and what it means. I mean, the board of adjustment works in conjunction with,
[36:31] you know, with everything that goes on in the township, and they are also enforcing the zoning
[36:36] ordinance and they grant exceptions from it, occasionally.
[36:41] And everybody likes to see parameters because it's very difficult when you don't have parameters.
[36:49] You do need side rails because it makes it easier to determine which are the cases that you're going to grant an extension for because they're presenting a case that's unlike any case.
[37:02] And they really do deserve that relief.
[37:04] Not only those applicants that seek an extension, they come in before the years up.
[37:14] There's definitely financial hardships or other things that occur sometimes.
[37:19] 99% of the applicants, they realize that.
[37:22] So this is really addressing more some of the outliers.
[37:25] Exactly.
[37:27] So are there any other questions or comments?
[37:30] I'm asking any other suggested modifications to this.
[37:35] Just as part of my own.
[37:36] Learning process, it's as shall provide be told from the date filing and appeal, and then new is in accordance
[37:46] with law. What is the law?
[37:49] What's this a wash?
[37:51] Well, just giving you a little bit of brief.
[37:55] Briefly,
[37:58] the ordinance, the old ordinance goes in,
[38:01] and it talks about where you can file an appeal.
[38:07] So it says to the committee or to a court of competent jurisdiction,
[38:12] and then it says, in any manner of such appeal or proceeding.
[38:16] So it's just very wordy.
[38:18] So the ordinance review committee's goal also is to make things less worthy and just simply,
[38:25] you know, if we say in accordance with law, there are only a couple of ways that you can appeal
[38:30] from a decision, from a zoning board approval, you can go to court or at least in the
[38:36] township of Long Hill, you can appeal from an approval to the township committee. So there's only
[38:41] those two ways, really. So instead of going through and listing all the ways, we just said,
[38:47] accordance with the law, and anyone who's going to file a lawsuit is going to know what law,
[38:54] or what an appeal is and how to do the appeal, or what they're appealing from, and
[38:59] where they're appealing to.
[39:09] So we're just the amendments to the two years and the strike count.
[39:15] And then the state of New Jersey and the state.
[39:19] Is this then good enough to discover the proof?
[39:22] or decides it is, then we will have a motion in a second
[39:26] to have me forward it to the Township Committee
[39:28] for First Reading.
[39:31] So the red part, we're gonna change to up to one two year
[39:36] or two up to two additional years.
[39:40] I'm striking the one.
[39:48] I think Scott had a suggestion.
[39:52] I mean, are we going to adopt the clarity suggestion
[39:55] of the light, which that you would see on May Scott, in regards to, you would
[40:01] thought that there was, it wasn't exactly clear.
[40:07] Is that right for this sentence?
[40:10] Yeah,
[40:13] let me just read it all out.
[40:16] Board of the Justice and upon Writhner, a question for good caution, may grant an
[40:20] extension of time beyond the 14th of limitation, not to exceed two more additional
[40:40] I don't know how to see 24 additional months beyond the 14.
[40:48] Yes, we stay with months.
[40:50] That's right.
[40:51] That's fine.
[40:53] 24 months.
[40:54] 24 months.
[40:56] That's still getting some flexibility.
[40:58] If they say 80 months or 14 months or whatever.
[41:01] They have that in it, yes, that's fine, that's fine.
[41:06] Thank you.
[41:06] Thank you.
[41:07] Very good.
[41:09] Good.
[41:09] And then earlier, it gets into what you were saying about it being driven by the approving of the
[41:16] resolution.
[41:18] Yes.
[41:18] Rather than because the PPE, it would be repetitive to prevent it.
[41:22] Yeah.
[41:23] Initially, it says from the date of entry of the judgment or determination of the board of
[41:28] I don't know exactly what that means, when is the disharmedation, don't say.
[41:34] That's the right.
[41:35] Good.
[41:36] Okay.
[41:36] Is there a motion to accept that with the modification?
[41:39] But there's modifications.
[41:40] I'm out of tune to accept.
[41:43] And I'll second death.
[41:44] The order.
[41:45] I'll second death.
[41:46] All right.
[41:46] We can do it all in favor.
[41:48] All in favor?
[41:49] Aye.
[41:50] Any pose?
[41:51] Great.
[41:51] Beautiful.
[41:52] Thank you.
[41:54] All right.
[41:55] who would like to introduce our next, this one should be even more straightforward.
[42:00] It's very straightforward.
[42:01] Probably best if you want to go somewhere.
[42:02] Yes, you're in a float.
[42:06] You're in a float.
[42:07] You're in a zone.
[42:07] I'm in a zone.
[42:09] We're so in fact.
[42:10] Is that affordable housing?
[42:11] What zone are you at?
[42:12] This is the one we talk about on the type inside.
[42:17] That's exactly what it is.
[42:19] So this is just part of the cleanup ordinance.
[42:22] It's just, we're just cleaning little things here and there.
[42:27] So the first section is LU-171.5.
[42:34] The Planning Board shall elect a chairman and vice-chairman.
[42:39] The ordinance right now says, from its members.
[42:43] That's not entirely correct.
[42:46] It's from among its class four members.
[42:49] So that's what we're adding, because a class one, a class two and a
[42:53] class three cannot be the chairman, only class four members.
[42:57] So that's just being, it's statutory, and it's just being a little
[43:01] bit more specific, because there hasn't been a question in long-hilled.
[43:05] But there was a question that came to me in another town, whether a class two
[43:08] can be a chairman or a vice chairman in the answer is no.
[43:13] So, for avoidance of confusion, this is just, you know, copying and pasting exactly with the statute requires.
[43:21] That's all.
[43:22] The second one, notice requirements for hearings and publication of decisions is very similar.
[43:31] The law recently changed where now these things are not required to be published in the official newspaper of the township.
[43:40] They have to be published, like for example, the publication of decisions have to be published on the website rather than in a newspaper.
[43:54] It really is.
[43:56] There's still published on an official and a newspapers website, not in a physical case.
[44:04] So the first one, public notice has to be given by an applicant, but it's no longer by publication in the official newspaper of the township.
[44:16] It's technically the township doesn't have to designate an official newspaper.
[44:23] And the municipal land use law actually says it's just a newspaper in general circulation.
[44:29] Now, the township did designate an official newspaper and so did the boards because in order
[44:38] to publish in a news website, it has to have a certain reach and it has to demonstrate
[44:46] that it has that reach.
[44:49] An applicant coming in before a board, especially an applicant without an attorney, is not
[44:54] I don't understand that they can't publish in, like, I don't know, Facebook, even though
[44:59] Facebook probably.
[45:01] But a much bigger issue is some of these publications. But that's a joke. But there are these
[45:10] tiny, teeny, tiny little news publications that are popping up here and again, and they advertise
[45:15] on social media, but they don't really exist anywhere else. And I can see how someone could be
[45:21] confused and can go to one of these publications. And I can see how they would say, sure, we can
[45:27] run your ad, but they're not an official, well, you don't have to.
[45:34] Yeah, it just, it doesn't comply with the statutory requirement for how many persons
[45:43] or computers or whatever it actually touches that how much of exposure that you get from this
[45:51] publication.
[45:52] So, but this is also a bit of an 80-20 rule, right?
[45:57] Because not every newspaper gets to every resident town,
[46:03] just like not everybody has an internet capabilities
[46:07] to get to the internet page.
[46:11] So, doesn't have to achieve 100%.
[46:13] But it has to achieve a majority of the access
[46:15] for someone to get access to that information.
[46:18] Yes.
[46:19] Yes.
[46:19] And honestly, that you'd be told, the main form of notification when it comes to applications
[46:25] for either board is the 200 foot less.
[46:28] The letter.
[46:28] That's exactly exactly exactly.
[46:30] That's exactly exactly.
[46:31] Those are the ones who have to receive, and that's certified mail.
[46:35] Yep, too.
[46:35] Those people that reside, but those residents reside within 200 feet of the area of interest.
[46:43] Right.
[46:43] So what we're changing here is that we're taking out the official newspaper of this
[46:48] ownership, just for avoidance of doubt, because the township technically isn't even required
[46:54] to designate one anymore. And it may choose not to. The reason it does now is because
[46:59] applicants are just not going to know. So I think there's something wrong with that I think
[47:04] actually. It took the times on this. Yeah, we are. And I think it's a good thing that the township
[47:09] continues to designate a new source, if not a newspaper, a new source, where applicants automatically
[47:15] know okay this one has the reach I can use this one I can publish in this one and it's fine
[47:21] but we're no longer calling it the official newspaper of the township not required so we're just
[47:25] saying in accordance with law I think recently you said there's some changes this is discussed
[47:31] it's not just this discussion here is that board of discussions been held as well yeah I think
[47:35] I did a memo at the beginning of the year and we did a resolution in March we did a resolution in March
[47:45] You know, as certain as we can be, you know, because these things may change that the reach of, you know,
[47:53] the designated new source is consistent with what the statute requires basically.
[48:02] So that's why we're saying in accordance with law rather than talking about any official township newspapers.
[48:08] And in the second one, the publication of decisions, that one's even more clear that it's in accordance with law
[48:14] because law now requires it to be published on a website,
[48:18] on the township's website.
[48:20] Now, if in the future, in a year, in two and three,
[48:23] something else happens, and they decide to change it,
[48:26] we're not gonna have to change this ordinance,
[48:28] because it's still gonna be an accordance with law.
[48:30] And I'm a big fan of writing ordinances
[48:32] that you don't have to change every couple of years
[48:34] because these things slip through the cracks.
[48:37] So how long does it take to save this by its invesolutions?
[48:42] How long does those solutions have to be accessible if it's on the website?
[48:47] They don't have to be put on the website at all.
[48:51] They don't.
[48:51] The notice of decision has to be.
[48:53] And that's only, and the notice of decision, I don't think they keep it up.
[48:58] They're all out to look.
[48:59] It has to go in an archive.
[49:01] Right.
[49:02] But after it's published on the website, it then goes in an archive so that people can, you know.
[49:07] That's a good question, yeah.
[49:08] I would challenge, because I couldn't find just resolutions.
[49:12] Oh, there's no resolutions.
[49:13] There's a notice of decision.
[49:15] There's no notice of decision.
[49:16] There's no notice of decision.
[49:17] There's no resolution.
[49:18] There's no resolution on the website.
[49:20] Right.
[49:20] There's something.
[49:22] Because it's a list.
[49:27] They have just made sure that we are doing something on the website.
[49:33] Because I don't see some stuff.
[49:37] That's all.
[49:38] Just a double check.
[49:39] How do we in the past posted it at the town hall on the Bolton Board?
[49:48] Notice of hearings and notice of decision or anything like that?
[49:52] No, not for applications for dates.
[49:56] Not for them.
[49:59] Yeah, like January.
[50:01] The legally proposed dates for after we have our rear meetings and the contracts.
[50:09] So to some point, what does a brief notice of final decision actually look like?
[50:15] Oh, it's a, you know, the zoning board of adjustment on this and this date approved application number blah blah blah
[50:21] And, you know, it gives a brief description of the property and then what was granted.
[50:28] And the date of adoption of the resolution, basically, I'm posting them on the echoes.
[50:33] I don't know if I posted them on our tellship.
[50:35] because I couldn't find anything like that.
[50:37] All right, I can go back and post it.
[50:38] Because I think if we're going to go down this part,
[50:41] 100% that we need to make sure everything is accessible.
[50:44] Because I just, nothing's just jumps to mind.
[50:47] You can also, there is, if you Google New Jersey public notice.
[50:52] It will, you can limit it to, and you can go back in time,
[50:57] run it indefinitely.
[50:59] I use it all the time.
[50:59] No, I do it too.
[51:01] Yeah.
[51:01] And now with this new law, the New Jersey Secretary of State
[51:05] has a repository for all notices.
[51:09] So if you're ever looking for a notice,
[51:10] the state is now archiving, all of these notices.
[51:14] So every municipality, agency, authority,
[51:18] that has to do notices, should have gotten,
[51:21] like, I don't know, 10 or whatever,
[51:24] from the Secretary of State, where they get to now upload
[51:28] their notices, and that's being archived.
[51:31] But I'm still navigating my way through, too,
[51:33] because literally, like, residential applications
[51:36] who don't have attorneys, like, I've been helping them with it.
[51:41] But those who have attorneys, they, the attorneys handle it.
[51:45] So it's, yeah, it's been a learning curve.
[51:48] I think there's, yeah, because I've said enough that we need to think
[51:54] about how things are presented and accessible and searchable in easy manner.
[52:05] The one thing I wanted to bring to your attention and something that I didn't think about earlier, but maybe
[52:12] the discussion right now, especially with Deb, is that publication is arranged by the secretary of approving authority, is that still true?
[52:21] What do you mean, did I?
[52:22] Yeah, published no, yeah, published no, it shall be given by publication now in accordance with law.
[52:27] At least 10 days prior to the date of hearing.
[52:29] Thanks for watching.
[52:30] Education shall be arranged by the Secretary of the approving authority as the case may be upon payment of the fee support, in section 180 of this ordinance.
[52:38] Yes, that's still true.
[52:39] Okay.
[52:39] I just wanted to make sure that we don't need to change that in any way.
[52:46] And I know that the publication of decision is a U.S. do that.
[52:51] So that that one I'm not even a question.
[52:53] And now you have to have me terrified, because I might be in behind.
[52:55] I'm going to have to go back and look at all the websites tomorrow and be like, oh my gosh, wait wait
[53:02] Because this year has not been as busy as the last couple of years like it's
[53:07] So now
[53:08] Any other questions comments on this particular awareness curious what fees are there is that like so the fee is so for instance
[53:15] If I've been posting for residents that don't have attorneys, I post through the echoes and
[53:22] And the echoes, Sentinel, still provides a copy of what goes on the Internet and an affidated,
[53:28] because we have to have an affidavit for the file.
[53:30] Affidavit a publication, a publication, a publication.
[53:33] So they charge, they charge, because it has, so they charge for that.
[53:36] Echoes does.
[53:36] The correct.
[53:37] So the echoes bills the township, I bill the escrow of the applicant.
[53:41] Interesting.
[53:42] And the same goes with the notification of memorialization.
[53:45] Once there was a solution, it's memorialized, and I noted in the paper,
[53:49] Yeah, I charge the, I charge the according.
[53:53] That we don't, it's interesting because that's kind of where,
[53:56] like, it's acceptable by law for our memorialization.
[54:01] When I memorialized it, when I did it in the newspaper,
[54:05] our clerk can actually, like, print it out and take a copy from the paper
[54:10] and then seal it basically.
[54:13] But now that it's in a paper, like I'm trying to say that,
[54:16] Okay, it's been a learning curve.
[54:20] Changing technology.
[54:21] Yeah, it's a click, no, it's a click, no, it's a click.
[54:23] That's why David has brought it up.
[54:25] Oh my God, I think I'm behind.
[54:27] It's so fast.
[54:27] Every time a loser change, I mean, everything has been
[54:31] noted because before an applicant comes to any hearing,
[54:35] you'll want to get the copy of the notice
[54:37] that you should have professionals do, whoever's
[54:39] reviewing the application, at 10 days in advance, right?
[54:42] So we can confirm that the boards can legally hear
[54:45] application. Now what I'm concerned about on the flip side is when we move more or less
[54:49] in some way. I got to figure that out. Yeah, that's important because it's the appeal period.
[54:58] Yeah, exactly.
[55:01] Any other sort of comments questions? Can we do a similar motion? Are we ready to push this forward?
[55:10] Orc?
[55:10] Yes, that's perfect.
[55:12] You work push.
[55:14] You work push.
[55:14] I hope you work push.
[55:14] You should do the work push.
[55:17] Excellent.
[55:18] I thought there was any amendments.
[55:19] I don't think we're there any significant amendments.
[55:23] I don't know.
[55:23] I'll just stay as well.
[55:24] I'll just stay as well.
[55:25] I think somebody would, somebody like to make a motion.
[55:31] I motion to prove the, the ordinances we just discussed.
[55:41] in second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye, pose?
[55:46] Great.
[55:47] Excellent. Good.
[55:49] All right.
[55:50] We are on to new and old business.
[55:54] I just had a couple of things to mention.
[55:57] First, I just want to again express my thanks to the work.
[56:02] They've been doing a great amount of work.
[56:04] As we've all been taking the summer off,
[56:07] a lot of the other board members.
[56:08] The work has been busy at work pushing through a lot of important ordinances.
[56:16] They might seem trivial, but they all fit a big puzzle, you know, and I think that I really
[56:22] appreciate all the efforts to keep this flowing and it's going to get a little bit more challenging
[56:27] as we come into the fall because our applicants are starting to come out of the woodwork.
[56:33] So, that's going to create a pretty busy season to do both, so, but again, in advance, I do
[56:41] thank the work for helping to keep these things going.
[56:46] The second thing I just wanted to mention is, I invited myself to present to the Township
[56:52] Committee tomorrow, kind of where we are with Master Plan Implementation.
[56:58] And this is kind of started out of meeting with the work to talk a little bit about some
[57:04] of our needs.
[57:05] This all started with the need for a zoning map and getting frustrated that that was taking
[57:11] too long.
[57:11] So that's one thing I'm going to highlight is regards to a critical need that we need to budget
[57:16] allocate Liz's in her company of graceously now step forward to just pull that map together.
[57:24] Because I know that's critical and critical tool that really the ordneds and regrets
[57:29] and now getting into the bulk of the brain and the brain.
[57:33] And the zoning officer as well.
[57:39] So that's going to be one need, and then I will also talk about just to finish off the critical
[57:44] needs.
[57:45] This is just making sure that we have adequate budget for our professionals as we continue
[57:51] to undertake the orc related work. I mean, that's absolutely critical. I like the system that's been set up and I really think the professionals for all their support, really the backbone of the group to help draft these ordinances that are very tricky from wording standpoint. So thank you.
[58:10] The only other things that I just wanted to mention that I'm going to highlight is we are going to update this list.
[58:17] I don't know, did everybody get a copy of this list?
[58:20] No, yeah, I'm not sure.
[58:21] Well, we'll update this.
[58:22] This is just going through what we accomplished in each of the years after the implementation
[58:28] of the Master Plan with regards to ordinances.
[58:33] I was planning, one step, updates this to end us out to the Township Committee, not getting
[58:39] into an exhaustive discussion, but just to illustrate that progress is being made in these
[58:45] different areas.
[58:47] So, I think that's that's great there. We do need to add a few things and make a lot of things.
[58:51] Yeah, I will update that, send it out to the board first, sing in the morning.
[58:54] And then the second thing I wanted to add is I wonder for people back, especially the Township Committee,
[59:02] that we did do an exhaustive review and development of goals and objectives.
[59:07] So, I just want to, I'm not going to go through all the goals and objectives of the Township Committee,
[59:11] But, you know, we really haven't had a chance to have a dialogue with everybody on the Township Committee about some of the goals and priorities that really the Township, especially the Township Committee should be considering.
[59:27] Two areas that we have kind of initiated outside of the ordinance is one with stormwater and floodplain management.
[59:35] So there is a group that's assembling and Randy's kind of trying to facilitate that.
[59:43] There could be other opportunities for volunteers of this committee to participate in that.
[59:49] Again, I think it came out of the master plan as a critical area in regards to dealing with stormwater and floodplain management for the town.
[59:59] And it's a few-
[1:00:00] Your development potential. So I'll speak to that briefly and then have a dialogue with the mayor who's been working with me in regards to trying to get that initiative off the mark.
[1:00:13] And then the second one is came out of all the sewer-related work, was really embracing trails along a lot of the sewer right away, is we still have these great open corridors that have been created through some of the sewer construction,
[1:00:27] that we really want to take advantage of, I think, to create some of the connections we need in this town,
[1:00:35] east to west, north to south, you know, and right pivoting around the central park complex, but also then around the river too.
[1:00:45] There are actually some nice rights away that have been created in some of the river areas as well.
[1:00:51] Obviously, in many cases, there are very wet, but in many instances, that's okay.
[1:00:58] I mean, it's seasonal, some of the trails are bringer paths.
[1:01:02] Bringer wellies, as they say in Scotland, bringer wellies, and we'll walk the trail.
[1:01:09] So can you think of anything else, and we're just open it up for other things that you
[1:01:15] would like to highlight that you've seen in regards to the master plan?
[1:01:19] We'll come.
[1:01:20] I can share with attention.
[1:01:22] What comes to mind is the annual report from the Zoning Board and their recommendations
[1:01:27] on what they wanted us to address and we have, not 100 percent but we have it working
[1:01:33] off.
[1:01:34] We're working on it so that they know we're not, we're not, we're not off in a bubble.
[1:01:41] We're not sitting with what they recommend it.
[1:01:43] Yeah that's a good point, Pam.
[1:01:45] Thank you.
[1:01:45] Interestingly enough, Pam, to that note, that's a very good point, because when I was
[1:01:50] looking through tonight before our meeting, the last annual report that we did, a lot of
[1:01:57] it ties into the master plan zone changes that we're going to begin. We're going to start the bulk
[1:02:04] of that next year, because first of all, the budget, and it's what we call, as you want to
[1:02:09] first to it as a master notice. Because when you implement changes to the specific zones,
[1:02:15] we have to send out notices we have to have a hearing on this stuff. So we're trying
[1:02:21] to, you know, listen, you want to have been very good about trying to, you know, focus on
[1:02:25] doing a lot of that stuff, you know, set back changes and you know other things that the board
[1:02:29] recommended in the annual report. So we can do it all at once with one like major notice.
[1:02:37] So, if that makes sense, right, you want to, yes, yeah, okay.
[1:02:42] Yeah, for the things that were required to do the notice for some of the things we're not, some of the things we are, you know,
[1:02:48] across those bridges where we are.
[1:02:52] Good.
[1:02:52] There you go.
[1:02:53] Anything else anybody can take off?
[1:02:55] Well, I just wanted to remind you,
[1:02:58] September is a big month.
[1:03:00] Two dates.
[1:03:01] the first date in September, you have two subdivisions.
[1:03:04] And the second date in September, you have Sterling Crossing,
[1:03:09] which I've sent to everybody the link we do have plans.
[1:03:11] If anybody wants a R coffee, we've received a traffic report.
[1:03:16] I wish I could put that on the agenda tonight.
[1:03:18] We'll do that next agenda for the resolution.
[1:03:21] But anyway, I have the traffic report.
[1:03:22] I hear from the police department.
[1:03:24] We hear from fire.
[1:03:25] So within the next week, I'm going to be forwarding those documents
[1:03:28] to the board.
[1:03:29] There's a job we'll be finalizing their reports on that, and yeah, I mean, thank you for reminding me too.
[1:03:37] Just as a straw poll, everybody be present on the eighth.
[1:03:42] I mean, that is right, that's the day after Labor Day.
[1:03:45] I will not be present for that meeting.
[1:03:48] So I have to send me an email reminder.
[1:03:50] Yeah, I'll remind you of that, unfortunately.
[1:03:53] So that is the day after Labor Day.
[1:03:55] Can I make it comment about Sterling Crossing?
[1:03:58] You know what?
[1:03:59] I can't say anything about you.
[1:04:02] You know if there's something missing?
[1:04:04] You would send me a separate email.
[1:04:05] I don't know.
[1:04:06] I don't know.
[1:04:06] I just want to thank Mr. Chair.
[1:04:11] When you get the touch of committee's attention,
[1:04:14] and we have a bunch of applicants that are going to be coming
[1:04:16] before the Board in the Zoning Board.
[1:04:18] Can we get the communications aspect of the dress as well?
[1:04:24] That's a good point.
[1:04:25] Like the phones.
[1:04:26] The batteries for that thing.
[1:04:29] The problems.
[1:04:30] The cables on the BIO.
[1:04:31] Cue the bad microns.
[1:04:35] Yeah.
[1:04:35] Yep.
[1:04:37] It's gonna be here.
[1:04:38] It's gonna be here.
[1:04:38] Yep.
[1:04:39] Good.
[1:04:41] It's difficult to work with.
[1:04:42] Yeah.
[1:04:44] All right.
[1:04:44] If we have nothing else,
[1:04:46] is there a motion to adjourn?
[1:04:47] Full move.
[1:04:49] Second.
[1:04:49] I'm favored.
[1:04:50] Hi.